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Round Table Talk with Tyler and Hayley Hubbard and my hubby Michael! We have honest/open couple talk about navigating marriage, parenting, careers, trusting God, perseverance and so much more.

Get Real -w- Caroline Hobby

1:13:52 hr | 1 year ago

Round Table Talk with Tyler and Hayley Hubbard and my hubby Michael! We have honest/open couple talk about navigating marriage, parenting, careers, trusting God, perseverance and so much more.

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This is more about a conversation about real life stuff going on currently in this moment so I'm kicking off with my husband. Michael is joining me so excited. And then Hayley and Tyler Hubbard and we're having the real conversation ever. We're talking about marriage. We're talking about career. We're talking about babies we're talking about how babies affect marriage we're talking about God. We are literally talking about it all and it's real and we're honest and we're open and so I'm very excited to share this with you. Guys here is my husband. Michael Kaley in Tyler Hubbard and myself. Okay Hey hi everyone so. This is a first. But I've done podcast. It's a couples podcasts. which is really exciting? Exciting and my husband is joining me. How do you feel nervous? Well Michael. We've really been talking about personal things lately. So I feel like we might as well share them all with the world right just like getting to the core of ourselves. Yes that's what I hear the core Michael and turlough helium tyler have rejoining us in this. podcast idea came about because Haley texts me. And you're like I think we should really talk about some real life stuff and I was like I think we should do and then of course like give me a tiny little nugget. I'm like let's just do a podcast. It's like going going to share all the things and here we are and we made it happen within like week now brought about so. What inspired you to want to like? Talk about some real stuff off. You know I think just with our girls. Mom's texts that we have going on it. Just been so nice to have everyone to lean on to get advice into to help up share advice and circulate all of that Oliver fears and excitements and victories in life. And so Mike. Let's share that with other people but you know on our. I think our walk that we really like okay. We need to do this. We need to make this happen so there were all like Mike on are new parents. We have a seven week old two weeks behind you guys with baby Luca. Now you'll have two kids you have two month old and almost. She is live two years old Jones suit and I think that's what encouraged us to join. This mom's group are walk are walking group. Because we're all just like in the trenches trying to figure this out how to navigate marriage carriage navigate babies how to navigate careers and it's just overwhelming. Sometimes I mean marriage is a a whole nother ballgame game once you put kids into the mix as we all know and I don't know but just be good to gain knowledge and share knowledge in that department. So how have you guys navigator marriage starting with live with like a hedge. What was your love sort of like when I met the cottage on meet was instant and did you know right away that this is the one what tyler share? y'All try to make this short and sweet but we met through a mutual friend. Initially we were just kind of friends and we were hanging out and so much to the point where highly was on the set me up with one of her friends. And I'm like no. I didn't really feel in that way. anyways we so we were hanging and one thing led to the next and after a few months of Kinda hanging out. I was on the road at the time super busy so we weren't hanging out a ton but Ended up. We had wanted cigars night at one of our friends houses and Those July first and I remember that day because I was the first I night that Haley kissed me hailing you okay. We talk just play. We still debate to this a story but now that was kind of a night where we have kind of something here so we ended up hanging out quite a bit it shortly thereafter and I think we both felt something special on kind of new pretty quickly. You know this was leading somewhere and Haley Haley was moving to California a few weeks after that and that was her plan she'd already had a roommate in a room setup. Oh was yeah. Let me tell. The story forgot. That was when we were actually supposed to move was the first thing that we kids all right so yeah. They're not told her speak good. Kiss my line at the time the time was you should pray about it. So that's what I tell her house like I don't I don't think you should move to California. I think you should pray about it and I was kind of hidden but at the same time I think she took me serious and actually thought about may not have really haven't thought about this so kind of went home and prayed about asking for a son and she was signing her Lease on her apartment at work and her boss came to or behind her and told her that he would double her salary. She was staying Nashville Society. I and they really selling at times pretty pretty obvious like that. You know I think it's kind of got US humor too so good deal So yeah right. She ended up quitting her job. But just using that as a sign to stay in Nashville and you know we hung Out of town and shortly thereafter we were. We were engaged and getting married six months later. It was it. was you know. I think we both doesn't pretty quickly. It wasn't love at first sight if you will But it was definitely love pretty quick and we do some special and so yeah the kind of the short version of those store and Yeah that's pretty cool. I mean obviously it was something special because Y'all just had one kiss like you're saying of us have been real good kiss. You started dating yet. It's fresh fresh. Yeah it was fresh but like I said we were. We were so busy that in because she had just quit her jobs in between jobs and selfishly like hey we want to just come on the road with me and when I'm home can we just hang out all the time like we were together pretty much every day after that so you you had artists your nose going on. We had just gotten a bus. We were sort of past the really really rough and stage like the double washy probably. Wouldn't you know. Join me on the road but we were definitely shared about for for a while. That's fine we also had twelve dude on the bus so so you get to know each other quickly you know. least I'd say six or eight months later we moved into the same house together other and Just to save money to be honest and then realize how amazing that was and Yeah ask her to marry me pretty soon thereafter after and talked about raising kids that are farm and how amazing that was going to be and then She told me about after we got married. She didn't want to beat the form so but it was all it was all for the better anyways now that we live in town it's really convenient. And we have the farmer getaway to and that's started in the country together when you learned that men do not take hints. You have to communicate clearly to them because I told Tyler when I was ready when I wanted to move to town that I'd I had been hinting for the last year and a half that work out with the farm and he was like well. This is the first time I'm here. Communicate Hints So. That's true at that point. That was my turning point and actually really communicating. What my needs are to him? That literally was like a moment for ullmark time Like I have to speak up and say directly what I feel. Yes because I just thought people under could read my mind. They should you you just say syntax feeling but that was not the case. I mean. Obviously no one can read minds so I've worked on expressing my needs and was that. Ah something does that come natural for you express your needs or did you feel you had to like work on that. It's still something I have to work on be conscious about. I'M A to any Graham your ear helper. Yes so you probably put your needs lasts and you see how you can help everyone else. I probably specially the ones you love the most right. What are you on your almost three? That's an achiever your seven. which is the enthusiast four? which is the romantic? Okay so I think that's great. We all of the grant. We actually tried to play at any again. Any grand game failed Raleigh Guardian. Don't get that off for the birds instagram. So let's talk about that like how do your personalities Mesh because we'll talk about ours too because obviously I know ours a lot but we'll share that but how does an achiever and helper go together. Socially with very busy lives in kids how do you make that work in communicate That's a good question for me. I've just been really focusing on. She helps me achieve overachiever. Tain I don't know actually GonNa go with that one You know I think the Graham is interesting because you know. I don't think it's the end all be all I think it's a cool Help understand each other's personalities but I would say overall we're all we're just a really attain in this kind of been are are saying since we got married if I were a team and we're But but it does help me understand. I understand you know qualities about Haley that that helped me communicate better with her and in vice versa But overall you know I think I think we're just a team a this is a terrible answer but maybe next question so okay because I do think especially now that your marriage when you've been married for a while have kids. How do you feel like how do you feel like our team eighteen ninety year organizer and Scheduler your which I love the sheet and Michael's like Sydney Amy Day sheet of what I need to do for sunny today? Almost well okay type of environment. I mean team wise. We just being a good team and we work well together and we move while together new you let me be me and your flexible schedule. And you're not. You're not sentimental about things you know. It's like you know a birthday like you celebrate it early anniversary. Everyday's anniversary Valentine's Day is every day. Yeah Yeah like we can just laid back and cool like that. Which makes it easier on me? But that's just years of being with you and understanding your love. Language is words of affirmation nations. So and I sometimes for my birthday or Christmas. I'm like you don't have to give anything but please write me a three page letter. Like thank about it and take some time. I I want you to write out specific things that you love me. Not just your great. I need long long list awfully hard. That's all but like a quick breezy card. I want like a thoughtful car where you have like specifically listed things that you love about me and noticed together and with the plan to write a song and instead would just right. We'll spend three hours just right out. solid work to very specific song. That is a really directed. It's directed Missouri's thousand percent. Then Dan plan that okay. It's my it's her birthday. I'm you go get the card right the card. I don't want the car to have been planted viruses. I want it to be well thought out and I do think that is the different one. I duNno I don't know some men may be super sentimental abide I when we first got married started dating. I would drive to where you were in. Put a card in your windshield. All these thoughts and you didn't even care like you didn't even thought that you could have cared less sweet and I was like well you read it. Well it's really nice and I'm like but that would have been talk about me. I like quality time. Yes over any of that. Yes all about quality time and I don't give a gift like you don't have to give me gifts or anything but I'm if you want to you you want if you want to if you're going to buy it yourself because you're gonNa want like things little things for me. It's like you know get picked up from the airport. Report hate US works. No okay so tyler. You said yesterday about Haley. What inspired it was a song it's called invisible. Is this what you're dancing to live. A wake was cutest thing ever knows so cute. She made Monday Eh. But it's just the concept of sometimes like I'll be in the spotlight a lot of times people forget that how viable and you know for me. I just WanNa make sure I remind Haley on a regular basis like you're the real star in the situation like all. I do have been interesting songs or go right song or whatever but to me. You're like the you're the rock star in our relationship and and sometimes it gets overlooked. Can I do feel like just a good reminder. You know in a main to to make sure she knows that. Because it's a it's important and everybody around me to know that too like I don't know just a big part of our dynamic and I would not be who I am anywhere close to who I am without highly around so it's They just kind of that the idea behind a little bit. What is the things you love? Most Not Haley. The first thing I was really attracted to highly about `bout was attracted to was her overall kind of own how she's so relaxed and calm into that and just handles herself with grace like like even where I might be all tied or like anxious or like you know not nervous really per se but I would just anytime I get wound up gladys look at highly and she's just so calm and just like nothing fazes her bothers her she self spoken and it's just good energy so instantly like when I first met her I was like man I love I love being around this girl and she's just she balances me out really well and I learned so much from her so that's the first thing and then as I got to know her a lot of things that what I love about her I love how she loves people so much she is a genuine help her she wants to help everybody with anything even if they don't want help try to work on that a little bit but she's just such a loving person such a big heart and wants to help people apple and So yeah that's the first two things that come to mind and now having kids together washing her mom is like I this fall more and more in love with her but initially. That was the hour things that I really was attracted to. It was just kind of her overall or on how she carries herself. I Haley. You are the most relaxed laid back person. I have ever met your so calm like the word I would. I used for us. Just calm peaceful just very peaceful inca. And where does that come from. Thank you Thank you guys tearing up. Uh We're hormonal. We can any time you feel like it all these emotions. I think deep down it stems from just this innate knowing that that God's got everything under control and I would say that probably the root of it just like okay. How do you know that only a big deal in the big scheme of things were did that faith in God so strong come from from such a young age? I don't know I just I don't know I think it's just in me. Holy Spirit whatever you WANNA call it. That's often I don't know it just just part of who I am and I guess I've just tried to kind of laugh things off if and trying not to make things such a big deal just interject a little bit. I will say some of your biggest influences or like from your mom and from Mama Kim as well very I mean I would say your parents have pretty coming into pretty relaxed. And they're pretty easy going and they kind of have a optimistic outlook on life life and then probably her second her second family I would say is lighting name. Kim Who's the same way. Look to her so much. She's just so graceful graceful and calm and uplifting and optimistic and just good people to be around and I think that's that has the have a pretty big influence on you and I think that's a choice to that you make just talking about this morning that you wake up some days and not everyone just feels super positive in happy every morning. It's definitely choice. You have to make to be intentional about it every day I will say you do that better than for me than I have a natural tendency to get super emotional about and I feel like fall down rabbit hole of feelings I could really just like just sink into my feelings in like live at the bottom of them but you always find signed with spin it like you'll always spin it and you'll find a positive way to use something and how how do you how do you do that. How did you how do you find that I think it's like Haley. Said like you wake up every day and you make a choice. You know even when things aren't going your way or you know you're frustrated did you. Just there's a reason why you're frustrated so you just kind of always try to get to the source of that first and then usually you overcome it and then you look at you know gratitude a huge thing then you just if you look around you got a roof over your head you've got got you now. We have a daughter so it's like there's a lot of good to focus on opposed to just a moment of frustration emotion. In my opinion. We've always been that way. You have always a positive person you know and I never it's like cliche. Is the one door closes. Another one opens type thing. It's really is true and those things happen. For a reason I think navigating through those things is the most important way with a positive attitude. And you'll get your best results so let me. Life's pretty good when you wake. That's GonNa talk about this because because I know this is like a new thing that you're talking about lately and I'm just going to help you openness out you recently posted about your brother. Yeah for sure he passed away. And that's been a really hard topic for you to talk about in the past and but you're wanting to talk about it now unlike view view it and you're viewing it in celebration which always have it's just sheer. I don't want to go into a room and be like hey check it out guys going to get to know me you know. It's just a part of my life. That is a painful but also happy Florida my life. Everybody suffered loss in some way. You know how you cope with that deal with that. I think that probably is why you know. I grew up there being positive because I was always positive in that situation. You know because you had to. Plus I was a kid so you know I just wanted to play in the mud. You know ride four wheelers. That was what we wanted to do. So we didn't look at it. You know I think what what hit me most this year but it is now I have a child and like looking at her and then finally feeling what my parents not feeling what they felt but I understand understanding standing a little bit more of like the Holy Shit like what did that do to them like we were kids you know so. I think that's the timing wise this. Here's why and it was twenty years ago. Yeah flew by the. That's where I felt the need to express it. You know people always go understand understand. It's like so you don't really never been there now that we have a child it it just kinda hit me a little harder like looking at her understand now more than you did it before we mean like you said now you understand. More of your parents are coming from what I can imagine what their perspective of what they fell on a big level trying to keep a family together on top of all that you know. It's it's it's just a what a load to carry you know and a lot of people stay together in the big Bro. Do something like that. And most couples and families just disperse this one or two ways. Yeah so I finally understand both ways. more forgetful Ferguson. Grace people grossed me. Yeah Jeez yeah yeah totally you know and everybody deals with things differently so not too bad. Try but you back off what you were saying. I think off. You've had the heart of gratitude. Forget the phrase but basically it's really impossible to be to be unhappy if you can maintain a state of gratitude. That's not saying like always being happier. All are never looking at life in a negative way but we he played gratitude gang which sounds really silly but a lot of times like Haley. Like what are you grateful for and so I'll have to. I'll have to think stuff which is not that hard but at times it's like why not. Why Ah feel this way and then almost instantly the gratitude brings you out of that and helps you get a perspective of like okay? I have a lot to be thankful for you know. There's there's no reason to to be pessimistic in this situation or whatever so we've tried to incorporate that even with like live and stuff like like we're grateful for just start trying to you know. Plant does Dawson her mind and help her understand the power our being grateful you know what I mean for for every little thing you know even live in general -absolutely so it's you know it helps us shift our perspective a little little bit from just being kind of like the second I start thinking about something in a negative light. That's when I'm like okay. That's my trigger. Any to think of what I'm grateful for. It's so easy to go down that rabbit hole. It's so easy even Thir- laws or something super heavy like there's always like silver lining you know you can kinda focus on or situations to be grateful for and We've talked a little bit about that but yet just they live in general. I think there's a lot of power in the gratitude you know snapshot of Your Phone and you know it's just it works out how it's hard to do. Sometimes a lot of people don't do it you know if it's simple things that you know there's always going to be a bigger house nicer car or more money or success in somebody's doing this and better than you or whatever. It may be all shapes and sizes but he's focused on what you have like gratitude towards it. I think naturally you'll be happy and those things will grow to in total. I Dunno it's GonNa Channel great gratitude especially when you're having ship day something I've been really trying to the gratitude towards lately is now that we have sunny like I have the ability to let a lot of fear creep into my life like I could describing you like like because I can just go like these things Terrible things that you hear that happen to your Like People's children men. It's like how do you not live in that fear you know so how how do not live in that fear of God thing recounting in total you knowing that you know he's in control and it's out of our control but I think it was a Brunette Brown Book Doc. And she was saying you know every time you start having those thoughts because we all have those thoughts as parents like you think of that for riffing thing that could possibly happen and even if that didn't air did happen. Nothing's going to ever prepare you for that moment. So don't worry about it you know that's true And so that's where she says to shift to gratitude every time you're looking at your child and you have that that moment where you're like. Oh my gosh. What if this happened shifted to? I'm so grateful I've got this beautiful healthy child and my family and and it kind of snaps you out of it because nothing will ever prepare you for at that moment in what you were worried about is probably would never even happen right irrational fears that we have yeah natural though that that is so such a good perspective in my sister told me that to Catherine said she was like every day she says everyday has to be a good day and then also like why miss out on enjoying the moments that you have with people that you love the most with your children because you're worrying about something that most likely will never happen it's out of your control road racer then you miss out on your life with people that you love because you're stressing being out about something that will yeah you're not in the moment and that's ego and that's trying to control and not giving giving up to God so I guess you'd have to give everything up to God all the time but how do you stay in that place agreements leg be with your word word. Don't take anything personal. No Fear Al-Fayed. Oh I don't think anything personal domain assumptions also burnell. There's one more a support agreements. Or if you apply this southbound at the same time we're all human and it's obviously difficult not to land or at least at least half fears or you see your friend get through the tragedy and think man how the world would I get through that or whatever the case is but at the same time. I think it's being aware and having that mindset and no one man today I feel fearful let me just let me remind myself and as God to remind me hey like I am non control of my life. You know what I mean and right now he has made in this beautiful places beautiful kid did this beautiful marriage or whatever the case is and let's just living this today and not worry about tomorrow so I think there's a quite a few times in the Bob Bob where it mentions. Don't worry about tomorrow for it has enough whereas self or give us this day. Our daily bread like it talks about just worry about today. We can't change yesterday and we can't control tomorrow so just worry about today and then hopefully would that awareness. It can help us all because I thank as humans like especially in this culture like it's pretty natural to worry is pretty natural to try to control the situations and you know so. I think that's just a good reminder. Nothing were all there mentally so just yeah we just gotTa remind each other and be a support for each other and just know when we're having those fears. Here's to like you say give it up to God. I know that sounds so like Sunday school answer but but it's true. You know so absolutely Mike. Okay so I have a very softball question that I would like to see what your thoughts are about me. My Mom's a philosophy professor so we grew up having to like analyze all of our thoughts and lives. Why like I look at Sunny? You look at Luca in live and they're these fresh lives that have just come into the world. They're still so close to heaven you know like they're closer to heaven they are to Earth Right now is like I look at Sonnino. What are you know about the other side you know like? Why did you come here like I I think to myself? Like what is it that she is wanting to accomplish in her life or experience. Or like 'cause I personally believe that spirits will have spirits and souls were in this earth to experience something because then we're all going back to the other side back to heaven back to God so it's like why did she choose to come here like so. Why do you guys think we come to this earth like why are are we living like why do we not just all stay in pure positive heaven? Why is it that we come to this earth experience? Does that one the hard question. Let us that's a good question. I think that's a difficult question but at the same time I think it's simple and you know for what we believe in for our faith and what I've been learning lately is kind of going back to the one day time. Live a simple life and you know what like our ultimate goal while I think as humans were all built in made no matter what you believe were here for connection and I think we're here to connect with other humans and connect with God and the Bible says me again rivers the Bible. It says our number one calling is to love God and love people so I really think it's just as simple as bad bad thing. Is You know to kind of sum it up. I think it's just love people into love God and to connect obviously there's a lot of layers under that and there's a lot of confusion and a lot of you know the twenty the twentieth century. I think there's a lot of fog Innis around. What are you know what our purpose is in all this and that and I think we as humans also we put we put we wrap a purpose Aranda career or Rapa purpose around a relationship when we wrap a purpose purpose around a dynamic with a family or anything like that and say well my purpose is to be a good dad? My purpose is to be a husband and my purpose is to be a song writer artist and FRY. But I don't but I think ultimately all this all that's just the fun activities along the way or so you know. I think I still think that kind of ordained by God and I think that we're that is part of our purpose but the ultimate purpose for us being on earth is especially as believers is to love God into love. Love your neighbor into show them the love of God so I don't know I think that's at least least that's for me. That's that's where I kind of try to go back to try to keep that perspective on a daily basis especially in our busy crazy life where we think so. Many things are important. Wouldn't miss is important guy. Take this meeting like this song. Got Us on this artist. GotTa do this. GotTa play these shows and better. Donna's like man. Let's not forget the big picture here like ultimately when we pass away when people are talking about what are we want them talking about how we love people in my opinion and not how many songs we wrote how many shows we played or how much money we made. I think it's I think that can sometimes turn turn you know. Distract us from the ultimate purpose totally. Yeah having that human human experience is I agree with him. All that other stuff is just you just do and stuff you know but be nice to people love one another and give to one another you know like I said it's like it all just kind of feeds itself and I get. I get reminded of that often often win. Like I'll just take time to go have coffee with someone or maybe like help somebody out offer like it's just like this today and I'll actually go do that and I feel so fulfilled and so whole and so like wow like. That was the best done today. And maybe it didn't maybe it didn't pay me or maybe it didn't you know maybe I don't have anything to physically show for it but may Mahar was full and I can tell that's what my purpose for that day was and so I think just it just keeping that perspective is important and I've just been reminded that often late lately just through experiences and things I've had it's just like okay like here not to strike this week. Come probably constant strike right totally. Hey Caroline Hobby here if you know me how important sleep is to me. The quality of your sleep truly affects the quality of your daily life especially especially now that I have a newborn the second I lay down. I have got to be getting great. 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And you won't want to miss a special Thanksgiving week filled with even more premieres treat every single day like it's Christmas Day and make lifetime your destination for new holiday movies happening. Twenty four seven all season long. It's time to get in the Christmas spirit. Why do you think we have to go through painful experiences? Why does in that? Why is it such a part of this human existence? Why do we have to fail? Why do we have to feel pain? Why is that essential for us as humans inevitable that like? Why is it inevitable? Well it didn't have to be but that's the way this whole life has been designed and of course the higher power although the hard question when I did you go through hard things. It helps me have empathy for other people that are going through hard things and I find myself when I do need to be there for someone else. I refer back to the time when I had a really difficult time and so empathy empathy But I don't know why you have to go through bottle you know. It'd be Nice if God put us in a perfect world and there was no pain and there was no sadness and there was no but then again we'd be living in a very robotic world. Wherever will what did you learn? I mean when you when you go through pain you go through hard times. You're learning something and it's always a faith building for me. It's it's a lot about fake building. You know what I mean and actually having to Lean on God and trust him and no man we as humans can't even wrap Yep our head around what God's doing like we can't even begin to fathom like his ultimate purpose and plan and I think I think it just creates a demand for Jesus to be honest you know the hard times in life and and the way that he can give us peace when there's no reason to be peaceful or you know what I'm saying or give us a comfort in Tom's of you know Thompson need times of pain and you you know for me. I've experienced that a few times in life where it's just like okay God like I know you're here I know you're with me. I can feel I can feel you comforting me giving me peace and in letters that feel I it. Just it's hard to explain but it does feel like okay. I should be so upset right now and I am sad but like like when I lost my dad I feel like it was a moment where I kinda prayed right after our God like I need you right now like hardcore and I'm either going to go this way. I'm going to go that way and I really want to choose you and I really WanNa go this direction. So help me out and I pray that prayer almost instantly in I truly just feel like almost out. How just almost smile about it like and it lasted for a while and it was still a journey for sure especially like months after that you know of just the healing process process and the grief and all that but I could just feel God with me and I think to go back and kind of talk about what Michael was saying earlier about being a parent now I feel like you can kind of get the perspective of our relationship with God because it says that everybody on Earth is a child a son John Asunder daughter of God and to be able to take that perspective now of man. He'll do anything for me like he's gotten he wants to take care of me. He wants to protect me when when we fall and hurt our knees or whatever the case may be like. He's going to be there to help us feel better. He's going to be there to to help us. He'll niece but if you didn't follow hurt your knees you'd have no need for your dad so I feel like there's a big there's an underlying kind of I think God uses that to drop into him. You know what I'm saying saying. It also gives us more faith in it. Encourages us to have to rely on him. 'cause sometimes I've been there a few times in life where you hit the bottom and you're like I got nowhere where else to go but but a you know like I'm just GonNa Trust God here and see what happens. I hear I hear his. I hear he's a good father. Here is going to take care of us and all this stuff somewhere contested out in any does so the bottom is actually kind of a blessing. Sometimes yeah do you know. I think it's a it's an eye opening experience for anybody and you realize man. I'm not in control. I need help which we all do. You know what I mean and I'm not invincible. And not as strong. I think I am and just all those things. It's very humbling. So whether it's you know I think that many different definitions it hit the bottom but you know you lose your best friend or your dad or your brother or anybody. That's a that feels pretty close to the bottom I happen I get over this. You know what I mean so anyways yeah I think again. I think it's just part of God's purpose and planned to draw closer to him. I totally agree with that. MHM think about the Father Perspective like man. That's why I've been listening to some messages lightly in this even like the simplest things like that reminds me okay like like as a parent. Now we know like we would never we will never let our kids go out in the cold without clothes on on. Or if they're if they're doing something we would do anything for kids anything and I feel like to have that perspective effective realize man. That's what God will do for us and probably even more you know what I mean like. He did do that for us. So it's like okay. Let me just try to wrap my head around this level the love that sometimes we forget about you know because it's not you know. It's not a tangible tangible or audible thing right in front of us you know what I mean like. Obviously we're there to wake her kids up every morning and in Gaza not always stand in our living room shake and has to wake up the same time. In retrospect I feel like he kind of is you know so if he can have that mentality and know that that's the relationship that is designed in between us as humans and him as God. I feel like it just helps you stay in that mindset totally connect the dots enough rambling from learn so so okay. I WanNa talk a little bit about marriage and Dan. Parenthood not interested to hear your perspective two weeks what has been the most eye opening. Dang that you have learned about your all start with marriage I forget into motherhood and fatherhood what has been the thing that has changed the most in your marriage in our marriage since having a kid for the better and not worse because none of its worst but like things that you've realised. Oh Gosh I I need to work on this and I didn't have to work on it before a child but then also what has been. The most incredible thing has happened since having a child child within your marriage you know since having kids you lose a little bit of that freedom but we get closer together at the same time and can you really have to work together and you know we've hit points where we get to that that low point of like. Oh my Gosh I'm struggling. And what do I need right now like I need you here. I don't know have you found that you had been being 'cause you said like that was something you learned earlier marriages. You had to learn how to voice what your needs were have. You've I've found that you needed to do that now. Being among totally I think just being intentional about what my needs are and what I need because I can't expect act tyler to know what to do and vice versa. And I think being a mom. You just have extra little intuitions that maybe a dad ad doesn't naturally have and that they want to help you know they're they're they're wanting to help they just don't know how and so I mean you do but it's different. It's it's a mother instinct for a reasonably you know knowing what they're needing when they're eating and to the point where boobs tingle when the milk comes in and we're like we need the feed the baby. So just you know being intentional with our time together and our needs and communicating communicating is huge for us. And when I stopped communicating and I can tell you can what happens. Oh my Gosh I get emotional. And what's going on. Why am upset upset? I'm like Oh because I haven't communicated I'm feeling and at least you have to realize that right so you know that when you start feeling can you catch yourself. You're like oh I need. So then how do you communicate do like write down your thoughts jaw like a family meeting or do you like how does it. How do you take the time to get your needs out? Wherever we can't let mean wherever we can make time for it in our crazy schedule we just say? Hey we gotta talk How do we make time for that? You've talked to you whenever you feel like I feel like I in the fall asleep usually anywhere else this around bedtime stories stories or you're catching him like sleeping in the brand new places translate pretty good just about anywhere if I'm frustrated about something and he's passing using out and Mike others no way. He's sleeping now. Gosh I will say like I think with kids it just is it. Requires you to be more intentional. Because there's so many more things are juggling so you know literally will end another sounds a little bit surface level but like for us. Our calendars early like a really useful tool for us to be intentional. So like if if we stay on our calendar we'll check our calendars and if we don't have a date night on the books you you know within a week or so of that will put it on there and we're pretty good about us something on the calendar or schedule we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA do it. It's it's almost like our check list. You know and even if we have something that comes up that that we would like to do but haven't talked about yet we have a little system in place where it's like. We'll put it on the counter so we both see it and we'll put a question mark because that means we gotta talk about it before we remove the question mark making chaser so that way she. I'll do something and say Titan game on Sunday and she we're not going to the titans games like well. Did you say the question mark because we hadn't talked about yet so let's discuss it. That was just a complete has never really happened but a motocross race or something but anyway so it's just little you know being intentional about setting little things in place that worked for for each relationship I think is is Kim. I think having kids really makes it extra important because as you guys know like you can you can just go weeks and weeks and just be so busy and fill like mcman. Hadn't had one second to sit down with you and have any time. We hadn't made the time you know what I mean. Let's put it on the calendar. Let's go on a date night. Let's go on a picnic even with with the kids but you know just whatever the need is it helps you it helps you voiced that and implement and make it happen. You know I've been trying to make time for myself talking with my therapist. And she's like you've got to get out of the House for thirty minutes a day and just go do something for you and so just go to starbucks and I start writing a journal and that's like my alone time and so I can feel full when I come back to the house. I feel like I got my time. I got filled up and I can be my best. Try Be my best for the family. And I'm just touch on this and then I'll quit talking so much but I will say balance is key like in our life in every week. I look at a week and I say all right to have a balanced week. Anita have meantime. I need to have us time. I need to have whole family time. I need to have workdays songwriting days need to you know. There's a lot of things but I gotTa make sure I need to have my workout like all the things that make Ma Week. Holy God like one on one time a God and he you know what I mean so interesting making sure you have it all power. You know what I'm saying. And if each piece is twenty percent ish yeah sure so I mean I I can probably put it all in five or six categories the. Yeah I gotTa have all that to be a full week to be whole and not feel out of balance so it kind of go look at the counter and said we got her date. Nice got a Wednesday morning. Jesus while Gumma Tuesday Thursday workouts in Milwaukee Gemmell Monday or Friday workouts. My boys got in two days of songwriting. Eleven o'clock I got a couple of meetings. You know what I'm saying like just to make sure you're getting the and it's also I mean but then at the same time now I wanNa have I wanna live a life creates freedom so we're not completely living about escape so sometimes will literally put in the calendar a free day whereas like don't book anything I think we're going to see where the wind blows day. It might blow me up to the farm derived dirt bikes. I Dunno might blow us out. Percy Warner Park. Going to hide like or we might just it might rain anyway. My stay in the House all day. So I think there's a beauty in that too and you create freedom and create spot new any but schedule it. Then you make sure that your balance balance is regional bells. Yes that's important. Yeah I love that. How do you think our marriage has changed for the better? Or what have we struggled with the better. I mean we're fresh into it. You know so we're still it's just not we'll see if coming up for ear let's popped up that has been a str- waste Jackson. That's why do you feel like has been something that you've had to wrap your head around good and hard as a new new parent as a parent on up. The hardest thing is selfishness. 'cause like you know we've been together a long time the life that we live and thankfully it it it definitely caters to you. Being Selfish Can just all about you. You don't so I think that's been an adjustment for me with her is finding finding that balance of like okay. I mean it kind of comes naturally because you wanna be with them and you want you know it's a thing but I mean watching you become a mother has been inspiring because you just make it look easy you know. Thank you in. That's cool. I'm really just there to help you know you've cooked every single meal Nice pitcher role. He's like become the show hobby. The House like you've really done great little concern the thing I'm like you're putting it into food. Yeah but that's the thing if me cooking in you know doing all that helps you while you're feeding every three or four hours and you take the night shifts. I'll take the mornings you know it's like we have a balance of like an ecosystem that we've just gotten to the agreement worse so we're we're both happy so you know you gotta you were able to get out of the the house today for a few hours Faucet there this morning and you know took care of her then and you're GonNa you know you're let me out of the the house or something I gotTa do tonight when we go to the bar together. This is like we to do everything together. Like you and I would always go everywhere together and now we don't because we're still I think we're we're still adjusting. That's a change for me though is like I used to go anywhere anywhere all the time do everything constantly and now it's like really like I have to find a babysitter or higher the night nurse to come which is a blessing that we have these the people at our lives. But it's like you have to really prepare to leave that's so true to your calendar and scheduling. It's just you just gotTa think out your weeks or for months a little bit you know ahead of time and back in the day there's beauty about being newly married or just freedom all the time same same ain't got to worry about this week like do we WanNa do that day. And it's it's a lot of fun but when the kids come along it just requires that if you wanNA have healthy anymore. It's got to be on a schedule. Some people subscribe to that some people do. But it's just like well. That's I have to make. That added a priority now for a little bit of time. You know it's not forever and we did the thing. We were married for five years before we decided to have a kid together. Thirteen years. Yeah but when we got it forever he was twenty one. Ask Twenty Four. I'm older too much fine. Everyone aw to the point where we're GONNA do time. It's time and I think that's important for people that when they get married. I mean you do what you want to do. But I think it's important to have that time in the beginning to yourself you know because like you do with someone things like either buying a house together and your careers at your combining all these things. There's an adjustment period all that because you know our whole lives have been used to being us your me. We learnt how to weather all sorts of like storms together before we had kids. So it's like now even if things really intense or hard or we're gonNA season like right now a very intense season with a new one. But it's like I are. We already know every single single little nook and cranny personality and how interact together. So it's like almost I don't worry about surviving hard things as you because we've already survived so many things together. I will say something that popped up for me. I'll speak struggle. That happened for me with the beginning was I felt like you could continue living your your life as normal exactly as as a the mom in like obviously breastfeeding every three hours in like someone has to be there with the baby. All the time I I felt like I will never leave this house again. Like I will never be able to get out of this house but you can just leave you know so. That was something I had to like. Learn how to help. Did you know that it's not. It's not doing it on purpose. But what are you going to do. Sit there with us the whole all day while we breastfeed. Yes I still tyler. I'm like I just need you to be here. You're with me which I don't do very well talk about ten minutes all you get and then I gotta move but it took me so long to realize that frustration like oh my gosh. He gets to continue his life he he gets to go to his workouts in the morning. I I'm still recovering. I can't work out yet. I'm breastfeeding my body. Is Not what it was. My pants. Don't fit nothing fit and so you tell us emotional stuff and and we were on tour in the middle of tour. That's true so you're just jump right back into being on the road. Yeah and I'm like. Oh I miss being on the road. I want to go on the tour and and you're like how do I get back to that but it's like how do you write it. It does feel like oh my gosh one of my ever GonNa get it out but I mean thank God for our texts that we have going on with the girls and I'll say that's crucial to have after guys the same way about having guy friends who are new to urge that yeah. A support group of females going through the same things has been so important for me This guy but we do the same thing. I mean I've been really went out to your farm is like I just needed. I needed this. You know we're not going to go out to farm all day from morning till night. 'cause we can't I got against that. I like Ford six weeks like a shift change. Everybody's going through. I mean we're going to changes to you. And what are you the change. What what made you? Well it's like this. Is it like that. You're just you you have to have. Everybody has to have a grace period of adjustment to like big live and things things like marriage kids huge career. Things like it. You gotta just nobody just gets it just like that. I don't think One thing that I that. NFL In this kind of like just to change perspectives a little bit like for us as dudes you have your wife. It's like for the most part you know. I live for Hayley and she lived from me and it was like it was all about us like you said well as soon as that baby comes. Mom is all about baby and all of a sudden husband kind of gets pushed aside which is okay and that's expected but it definitely take some adjustment. You know what I'm saying in this kind of art you gotTa have grace on that just like you gotTa have grace on us to be floor. That is true. I mean very much so you know it kind of at least it felt that way where it's like. Yeah like if I'm on tour with me and it's amazing I get to have my wife with me all the time and you know we love that but as soon as baby comes it's like all right baby number one now and so you kinda get an even to the point of like you know Halo would cook meals and highly. Do things will all of a sudden. It's like that just takes a backseat. You know what I mean the priority shift and change and for decades AIDS and we don't have enough time or energy to do. We don't expect acid. I'm like you know props to all women who had a baby because it's just Z's but at the same time like hobbies said there's an adjustment for you guys and for us you know. Have you felt that like that. I have kind I have not well. We're not even sleeping in the same bed right now because I sleep sonny's room on a on a mattress on the floor. Because I know what positively by those. TV's as long as it is true. Felt bad that we aren't as like intertwined as we have been in the past ten years of our marriage that's interested in talking about 'cause us were that the other day. I don't feel anything towards it because to me. That's what it is and it's not GonNa last rush you're able to separate that. Yeah it doesn't sound like I'm like what's going on with our marriage now. It just seems like since the baby series over uh-huh perfect man. You're raising a kid feeding it every four hours waking up and like good on you for sleeping in the room on a little Palette. You know in doing that from midnight six. Am You know. But I think he's that motherly for that. It might be because I need to have more faith or whatever but I have. It's like a I have. It's fear that makes me WANNA do that. I'm so worried about her all the time. Kasese my number one. You know things I've read that's very common with a woman in the first child. You know but then you look at like some friends of ours or like my sister-in-law in Los he's got five and five kids. I remember Christmas time there. She was born in April. She's just like four weeks old and like there's kids running around and I was just like where's the new baby baby and she just laid on the floor and the Dan you know like she's not GonNa roll with. It's just think they get all changes. I'm sure it's different for you guys now with a second one in the first one and like you said it's just a chapter. It's just a phase. You're you're GONNA get your life but you're gonNA get your marriage. The dynamic that it was a lot more he'll get my brain back the brains ever coming membrane is in a rare win gone. Yeah I forget what I'm saying. I left my baby. We're as I yesterday. I was going to get my lashes. Duncan trying to like keep some and I left my go the baby the and I forgot my phone and I was like oh no panicking. I was like what if he can't hint like something happens. Like you have breakdown in need. It'd be but then I'm like he's her Dad GonNa be fine. You're only capable than doe that time with no phone. I know but it is it session learning curve. This is Michael Seven. He's always like it's all good pretty good. I think say to me I think are doing amazing and I think it's amazing to have friends in the same chapter. That's why it's so funny like hang out with like new parents who were like trying to bounce at all you know yeah and I will say like along. The same lines is like I think there's a lot to be said about asking for help. And not being ashamed of that and I don't mean necessarily having ninety per se I think if you can if you have the financial ability ability to get an anti. That's incredible but if you don't I still think you gotta use your resources in your friends and your family around you to give you those days where it's like. Hey guys like like for me and Hailey S I go. We're taking two days and we're going on a trip like the babies are going to be fine. We'll leave him with somebody. Here's the milk. Here's the deal. Well here's how we put them to bed like and just trust is gonNA work because trusting. Yeah Trust is hard but I think that's another thing about having kids he just. Yeah Yeah I mean you don't WanNa you don't WanNa go and get a babysitter dot com and just let your baby stays anybody but I think he but even if we were talking about this other day like there's so many of our friends that we love and older friends of ours that maybe their kids are grown or whatever. I'd love to come over and watch the baby for a day or I'd love to accept their health exactly. I really think that's you know I think that's important as parents as hard as it may be. Just just lean in on that a little bit with your with your friends and with your family Our family doesn't live in towns. That makes it a little harder but I can. I can name five people right now that would love to come over and or we could literally job live and look off at their house for two or three days. I think it'd be cool with it and So I think that's that's also something to take into consideration as a new parent is not saying that. It's not hard because I do think leaving your kid. This is special time and and I think as a mom me personally I feel I. Don't you know it's the mom guilt that everyone talks about in it's a real thing and have you struggled with that. Yeah especially because we do have a nanny and you know. I'll be downstairs in my office office and I hear them having fun upstairs. Oh I should be up there or I hear them crying and I'm like oh I should go do that. I mean I have to kind of make myself yourself be like no Haley. This is what I need to be doing so that later I can be present with them. But there's still struggle definite guilt in that. I'm just like Oh my gosh I should be. There should be making those members of them. I should go take them to the park which we do. But you know and I can't be there for them all the time because is that I can't be my bestself but it's that constant struggle when I'm not with them I want to be with them and then when I'm with them to find time for oh you. Yeah so just that balance again just something. We're learning in. It's it is a real thing to learn. It's it's very it's easy to like. Go hard one or the other way around. Michael Working Moms to like a ton of friends who had had newborns gone back to work and having to have their name their baby full-time care. You know it's like but they need to work and so it's just it's just you have to accept except so much of the parent and I. We talked briefly about this on previous podcast with my roommates but like when we ended up choosing having a C. section like that. That was a really hard thing for me to my head around the beginning because I felt guilty. I'm so hormonal. It's made me cry that like I wasn't having natural labor. The bailing in a way. I can cry the drive that it actually is a real topic it hits a personality. It's like my I call my sister. She was like the faster faster. You can SAR Michigan. The faster you can accept that parent is not perfect in like. You GotTa make a decision in standby in by it and I know that like they're all fine decisions. You know everything is fine like there's not a wrong there's not a right and just make your choice feel good about it and then don't go back and like your question it and that is such a struggle for me to question myself in my previous life before child. I just question everything a millionaire. I could analyze everything the thing I think I'd choose the wrong thing. Worry so much that like I should have done this or should on that or like. Oh my gosh this person's upset with me. 'CAUSE I did this but like I know. Oh my heart is good. I know I'm choosing the best I can. And now as a parent you have to stand by that question it good for you for like saying those things because a a lotta times we have such negative self talk and for you to be saying I know I'm a good mom you know I can do. This is so huge. And that's because self-talk huge. I've recently tapped into self talk like I didn't even know until like this year. Michael Chandler giannattasio enemy fighter. He's sort of our good friends. He always talks about self talk and I didn't even know how bad myself talk was until I started checking in on the hardest on ourselves in anybody. Yes it would just be foot Ruutel to myself. I am saying whatever you follow it with. don't follow it negatively check yourself. Yeah the Mongol thing we're too I think from our culture and our society I think also changes like even with like breastfeeding verse pumping a nanny verse. Not having any all are not working right. It's like man like like you just said just just do your best. No that your mom. And and don't don't compare your situations or listen to a cultures telling you because honestly ten years cultures going to say the opposite anyways. It's true like it may be on your back before. There's so many things that you could be guilty from refill that you know. Even I'm obviously not a mom so I don't don't really know but I I will just say just from observing from announced such perspective is like it's real and it's just it's Kinda sad that our culture puts so much pressure on mom mom and so many expectations. And if you don't do this then you're a bad mom well like you said there's not a writer of all how many months you should breastfeed or there's not a right or wrong on a lot of times. We should do it in public or not right. In the pet peeve Allah what is natural so anyways all MOMS to. Do you have confidence in that. It's different for everybody. You know so then there is no wrong wrong. A right wrote as hard. That's really hard to do that. But I've been trying to lately my motto is. It's just been kind of to celebrate the little victories. Even if it's got out of bed and I brush my teeth and I got my makeup on before the kids got up today's miracle I did it out the door on time and the kids are dressed in those little things. I'm like yes we did it. uh-huh so it's the little victories that are actually the big victories. I've been trying to really just encourage those instead of at the end of the day being like. What did I get done today? Take in kind of being down to myself. It's like no. We did a lot because sometimes at the end of the day. I really can't tell you one thing I did besides just keep signing alive in theater and like I. I don't really have the time and wearing sweatpants. I last night to sleep in like nice of brush my hair or my teeth and I'm like well those exhausted busy all day but you have to be alive. That's a huge job. Yeah and and so we don't give ourselves enough credit for those things. Why is he really hit a lot of times? Ed Thank you know. I like draft every podcast up with. Leave your light so just leave some inspiration of obviously this whole thing's expiring. We're talking about inspiring things but like how do you want inspire people like what's the wisdom WanNa drop on people just to spread transom height. Here's mine just that. Hit me right when you said that because it's kind of along the topic of what we're saying but I think whether you're parent whether you're not whether you're married whether you're not you know wherever phase alive I think there's I don't think we give ourselves enough. Grace I really think like. That's that's important supportive. 'cause like you said the self talk and all that stuff like you can be so hard on yourself so I think it's just giving yourself grace a main if Jesus Jesus can be can give us so much great walking give it to ourselves. You know what I mean. Give us cut ourselves some slack. Every now and then and don't be so hard on himself so there's my little light negative for either I guess mine would be Just to I guess we said this before. But just remember that God's in control and to just take weight off of your shoulders so true and and just live your life and enjoy in not be fearful. Because he's he's got us. That's so hard not to do so true so hard. It's yeah you just have to constantly remind yourself. Try that every day. And it's aiming that I guess mine will be covered. I said before this is my personal. Personal struggle is owning my decisions like trusting myself and trusting my instincts especially. Now's a new mom like a half half trust my instincts so our like trust your intuition. Trust your instincts and know that if your hearts in the right place and you're doing your best then in don't go back and over analyze it and beat yourself up just know that like you did the very best you can. And he felt like you were led to do and then you have to let ah go. And he's now have to do is going to last. You got this day I tyler grace thing. I think that's really important in both one thing. I always try to do every day's essay. I'm thankful for things that I don't have anything for for things that I do. And you speak that loud you speak that all in and and then find gratitude at least once a day take a deep breath and gratitude and something in. It'll change you day but yet I'm always been a believer that you know your journeys not someone else's your you know what I mean your own your own path plan so something doesn't happen for you. Don't mourn over it gets move onto the next thing but just be thankful for everything he puts in your life and got takes out of your life because that's the way supposed to be totally awesome. Good will I just want to say before we get finished here. We look up to you guys so much. You guys are incredible parents and incredible friends and incredible people. And so I'm just encourage you guys a little bit. We Love Y'all so much and look up to you guys lot and thank you for having us on your podcast at Y'all credible examples bulls of all things and very inspiring so we're grateful to have you guys in our lives foil. Thanks for sharing your heart on this podcast every much native. Thank you for coming on. Yeah hey thanks for coming on. Yeah okay by Theodore. Roosevelt explored uncharted. Amazon territory helped modernize American football and won a Nobel Peace Prize. I'm Erin McCarthy. The editor in chief of mental floss and the host of history versus a new podcast that shares the inside story. Behind some of history's ultimate fighters. Season One tackles Theodore Roosevelt. Who went head to head with seemingly unbeatable foes like corruption time and death itself listening? Subscribe on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts.

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BONUS: Get Real: Round Table Talk with Tyler and Hayley Hubbard On navigating marriage, parenting, careers, trusting God,

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BONUS: Get Real: Round Table Talk with Tyler and Hayley Hubbard On navigating marriage, parenting, careers, trusting God,

"Hey all this is caroline hobby. Thanks for checking out the bobby bones. Show podcast since you're here. I wanted to share an episode with you of my podcast called get real with Caroline Hobby each week I sit down talk with the wives of your favorite country plus other incredible women. I'm married to country. Music Artists Myself Michael Hobby from thousand horses and recently I had Tyler Hubbard. We're from Florida Georgia. Line on the podcast with his amazing wife. Haley along with my husband Michael and around table talk. We talked about secrets for making time for each other in the midst of busy music careers plus we dive into parenting and how guys view versus women and how we work together and so much more. I'd love to come and check out. More episodes subscribe on Apple. podcast listen on iheartradio or wherever you get your podcast right now. Here's my episode of get real with Caroline Hobby featuring Tyler Hubbard his wife Hayley and my husband Miami uh-huh in she just said Noah Orange County pretty cited podcast miniseries. Doc Roundtable talk. I'm just calling around. Talk is not technically called round table. Talk but it's not just me sitting down having a one on one interview with one person talking about their lives and all the amazing amazing things about their life. This is more about a conversation about real life stuff going on currently in this moment. So I'm kicking off with my husband. Michael Goes joining me so excited. And then Hayley and Tyler Hubbard and we are having the realist conversation ever talking about marriage. We're talking about career. We're talking about babies. We're talking about babies affect marriage. We're talking about God. We are Louis talking about it all and it's real and we're honest and were opened. And so I'm I'm very excited to share this with you. Guys here is my husband. Michael Kaley in Tyler Hubbard and myself. Okay Hi everyone. Yeah so this is a first. But I've done my podcast. It's a couples podcast which is really exciting and my husband is joining me. Do do how do you feel nervous. Michael we've really been talking about personal things lately so I might as well share them all with the world right just just like getting to the core of ourselves. That's what I hear. The core of Michael Caroline Hobby. Right now we have helium. Tyler are have rejoining us in this. podcast idea came about because Haley texts me. And you're like I think we should really talk about some real life stuff and I was like I think we should do and then of course like give me a tiny little nugget. Let's just do a podcast is like going dude immediately and share all the things and here here we are and we made it happen within like week I know brought about so. What inspired you to want to like talk about some real stuff? You know I think just with our girls uh-huh texts that we have going on it just so nice to have everyone to lean on and get advice and help share advice and just kind of circulate all all that all of our fears and excitements in victories in life and so like let's share that with other people but I think those are walk that we really like okay. We need to do this. We need to make this happen. So we're all like Mike are new parents. We have a seven week old. We've been two weeks behind. Can you guys with baby Luca. Now you'll have two kids. You have a two month old and almost. She is live two years old to and I think that's what encouraged us to join this. Mom's MOM's group are walk are walking group. Because we're all just like in the trenches trying to figure this out how to navigate marriage to navigate babies how to navigate careers and it's just overwhelming. Sometimes I mean marriage is a whole nother ballgame whence you put kids into the mix as we all know I mean just be good to gain knowledge and share knowledge in that department. So how have you guys navigator marriage starting with live with like eight. What was your love story like? When they had to draw meat was instant? And did you know right away that this is the one what tyler shares. y'All trying to make this short and sweet but we met through a mutual friend. Initially we were just kind of friends and we were hanging out and so much to the point where highly was on the set me up with her friends and I'm like Nah I ain't really feeling that way. anyways we we were hanging and one thing led the next and after a few months of kind of hanging out I was on the road at the time super-busy so we weren't hanging out a ton but Ended up. We had a one night at one of our friends houses and Those Dula I and I remember that day because that was the first night that Haley kissed me Haley Haley. Just you just play still debate to the story but that was kind of the night where we've other something here so we ended up hanging out quite a bit Shortly thereafter I. I think we both felt something special and kind of knew pretty quickly. You know this was leading somewhere and Hayley was moving to California a few weeks after for that and that was her plan she already had a roommate in a room setup and that was it. Yeah let me tell the story. They forgot that was when we were actually. That was supposed to move. Was the first thing that we can wrench in it. Yeah so yeah then I. I told her speaking time was you should pray about it. So that's what I tell her I don't I don't think you should move to California. I think you should to pray about it and I was kind of kid but at the same time I think she took me serious and actually thought about may not have really hadn't prayed about this so kind of went home and prayed about it. Ask for a son on and she was signing her Lease on her apartment at work in her boss came up to or behind her and told her that he would double her salary. She was staying Nashville so they really. Tom Pretty pretty obvious like that. You know thank God humor too so good deal so yeah right chained up quitting her job but just using that as a sign to stay in Nashville and you know we hung out a ton and show were there after. We were We were engaged and getting married six months later and it was it. Was You know I think we both need pretty quickly. It wasn't love at first sight. If you will bill but it was definitely you know love pretty quick and we some special so yeah. That's kind of that's kind of short version of our low store and Yeah that's pretty cool. I mean obviously it was something special because Y'all just had one kiss like you're saying Eva's has been a real good kiss. 'cause y'all really started dating yet. It's fresh fresh. Yeah it was fresh but like I said we were. We were so busy that In because she had just quit her job she was kind of in between jobs and I was selfishly. I like hey where you want to. Just come on the road with me and when I'm home can we just hang out all the time like we were together pretty much every day after that. So you are. You're not going on. We had just gotten a bus we were sort of past the really really roughing stage like the double. Washy probably wouldn't join me on the road but we were definitely we were sharing. Earn a buck for for a while. We also twelve dude on the bus so probably being there so you get to know each other quickly. You know I'd say six or eight months later. We moved in to the same house together and Just to save money need to be honest and then realize how amazing that was and Yeah ask her to marry me pretty soon. There after talked about raising kids at our farm and how amazing isn't that was going to be and then she told me about after we got married she didn't want to beat the Forbes so funny but it was all it was all for the better anyways now that we live in town it's really convenient. And we have the farmer getaway to and that's started in the country together and that's when I learned that men do not take hints. You have to communicate clearly to them because I told tyler when I was ready when I when it's moved to town that I'd been hinting for the last year and a half that the farm and he was like well. This is the first time I'm here and Kate Hints. So that's true at that that point. That was my my turning point and actually really communicating. What my needs are to him? That literally was like a moment for you. Mark Time Like I've got to speak up and say it directly what I feel. Yes because I just thought people under could read my mind because they do say send towns feeling but that was not the case. I mean obviously no one can read minds so I've worked on expressing my needs and was that something that does that. Come natural for you to express your needs or did you feel you had to like work on that. It's still something I have to work on be conscious about. I'm a two on any Graham Helper. Yes so you probably put your needs last and you see how you can help everyone else. I probably specially the ones you love the most. What are you on any room three? That's an achiever. Maybe seven seven which is the enthusiast four. which is the romantic? Okay so I think that's great. We all of your. We actually tried to play any again. Any game failed Rowley Guardian. Don't get that off for the birds instagram. So let's talk about that like how a your personalities Mesh because we'll talk about ours too because obviously I know I know ours. A WATT and but we'll share that but how does an achiever and helper go together. Socially especially a very busy lives in kids. How do you make that work and communicate? That's a good question for me. I've just been really focusing on and she helps me achieve overachiever pain. I don't know no actually You know I think they need. Graham is interesting because you know. I don't think it's it's the end all be all. I think it's a cool a cool way to help understand he's other personalities but I would say overall we're just a really attain and that's kind of been and are are saying since we got married as a team and we're But but it does help me understand you know qualities. What is about highly that that helped me communicate better with her and vice versa But overall I think I think we're just a team. This is a terrible answer but maybe next question so okay because I do think especially now at your marriage like when you've been married for a while having kids how do you feel like what. How do you feel like our team? Dynamic is your organizer organizer and Scheduler which I love. Default was the sheet Michael's like Sydney Day sheet of what I need to do for sunny today. I I work in that type of environment. I mean team was just being a good team. We just work well together and we move move while together new you let me be me and your flexible schedule. And you're not. You're not sentimental about things you know it's like you. You know a birthday like you celebrate it but early anniversary like you're really like well everyday's in your Valentine's Day is every day. Yeah like we. Can you know you're just laid back and cool like that. Which makes it easier on me? But that's just being with you and understanding like your love language is words of affirmation so and I sometimes I for my birthday. They are Christmas. I'm like you don't have to give me anything but please write a three page letter like thank. You didn't take some time. I want you to write out specific things that you love. It's not just your great at long long list a minute. That's all I want but I don't like a quick breezy card. I want like a thoughtful car where you have like specifically listed things that you love about me and noticed one day we need to get together and with a plan to write a song instead just right. We'll spend three hours and just write solid work to very specific specific song that is totally directed. Milwaukee uh a thousand percent than we could do that Out Daily plan okay. It's my it's her birthday. I'm you go get the card. I'm going to write the card. I don't want the car to have been planted by Assistant. I want to be caught up. You know well thought out and I do think that is the different. I don't know some men may be super sentimental. We first got married started dating like I would drive to where you were in. Put a card in your windshield with all these thoughts and you didn't even care like you didn't even go to Sweden but you could have cared less. I just thought it was sweet and you read it. Well it's really nice about me. I like quality time. Yes Over any of that yes all about quality time and I don't gifts gift like you don't have to give me gifts or anything but if you want to you unlike you want if you want to buy yourself because you're only like things your little things remains like getting picked up from the airport. Hey you know okay so tyler you said you are song yesterday about Haley. What inspired it in was the song about It's called invisible. Is this what you're dancing to live. which was the cutest thing ever? I'm Oh so cute. She made Monday. But it's just the concept except sometimes like you know I'll be in the spotlight a lot of times people forget that how viable and you we know for me. I just WanNa make sure I remind Haley on a regular basis like you're the real star in this situation like all I do is sing songs or go write songs or whatever but to me. You're like the you're you're the rock star in our relationship and and sometimes it gets overlooked and I do like just a good reminder. You know on the main to to make sure she knows that 'cause it's It's important and and everybody around me to know that too like I don't know just a big part of our dynamic and I would not do. I am anywhere close to who I am without highly around. So it's just kind of that the idea behind that a little a bit. What are some things you love? Most about Haley. The first thing I was really attracted to highly about was attracted to Hayley to it was her overall kind of aura. How she so relaxed and calm into that and just handles herself with grace like even where I might be all tied or like anxious or like you know not nervous really per se but I would just anytime I get wound up highly? And she's just so calm and just like nothing breath and faces are bothers her and she's soft spoken and it's just good energy so instantly like when I first met her I was like man. I love being around this girl. And she's just she balances me out really well oil and I learned so much from her So that's the first thing and then as I got to know whereas a lot of things that I love about her I love how she loves is people so much she is a genuine helper. She wants to help everybody with anything Even if they don't want to work on that a little little bit but she's just such a loving person was such a big heart and wants to help people and So yeah that's the first. The two things that come to mind is just and now having kids together washing her mom is like just fall more and more in love with her but initially that was the hour things that I really was attracted to was just kind of her overall own how she carries herself. I second that Haley you are the most host relaxed laid back person. I have ever met your so calm like the word I would use for you. Just calm and peaceful just just very peaceful in. Where does that come from? Thank you thank you guys and tearing up. Just let it out. We're hormonal. We can try anytime we all these emotions you know. I think deep down it stems from just this innate knowing that in that God's got everything under control and I would say that's probably the root of it Just like okay how. He's not really a big deal in the big scheme of things. Where did that faith in God so strong come from from such a young age? I don't know I just I don't know I the thing is just in me. Holy Spirit whatever you WANNA call it. That's awesome I don't know it just It's part of who I I and I guess I've just tried to kind of laugh things off and try not to make things such a big deal just interject a little bit. I will say some of your biggest influences influences are like from your mom Mama Kim as well. He's very I mean I would say your parents have a pretty calming or about them too. They're pretty relaxed taxed and they're pretty easy going and they kind of have a optimistic outlook on life and then probably her second her second second family I would say it is a lady named Kim. WHO's the same way? I look up to her so much. She's just so graceful and calm and uplifting and and Optimistic and just good people to be around and I think that's the has the have a pretty big influence on you and that's a choice. Do you make just talking about that this morning that you wake up some days and not everyone just feels super positive in happy every morning. It's definitely choice. You have to make him to be intentional about it every day. I'll say you do that better than for me than I. You have a natural tendency to get super emotional about stuff and I could fall down a rabbit hole of feelings like I could really really just like an just seek into my feelings. Live at the bottom of them. But you always find a way to spin it like you'll always spin it and you'll find in a positive way to do something and how how do you how do you do that it. What did you find that you know? I think it's like Haley said it's like wake up every day and you make a choice you know even when things aren't going your way or you know you're frustrated you just. There's a reason why you're frustrated. Is he just kind of. I always try to get to the source of that first and then easily overcome it and then you look. Gratitude is a huge thing. I mean if you look around you know you got a roof over your ahead get you now. We have a daughter so it's like there's a lot a good to focus on opposed to just a moment of frustration or emotion Russian. In my opinion. Like you've always been that way. Yeah I've always been a pretty positive person and never it's like as cliche is. The one door closes another one opens type thing. It's it really is true in those things happen for a reason and I think navigating those things is the most important way with a positive attitude. And you'll get your best results so I mean life's pretty good when you talk about this because I know this is like a new thing talking about lately and I'm just going to help you open this out you recently posted about your brother. Sure he passed away. And that's been a really really hard topic for you to talk about in the past and but you're wanting to talk about now and like view you view it in your viewing it in celebration. Yeah we always have. It's just share. You know I don't want to go into a room and be like hey guys will get to know me. It's just a part of my life. That is a painful portable but also a happy part of my life. You know everybody's suffered loss in some way you know how you cope with that deal without probably is why you know. I grew up there being positive because I was always positive in that situation because you had to be plus a kid you know I just wanted to play the money you know. Ride four wheelers. That was what we wanted to do. So we didn't look at it. You know I think what what hit me. Most this year about it is now I have a child and like looking get her and then finally feeling what my parents not feeling what they felt but I understand understanding a little bit more of like Holy Shit Shit like what did that do to them like. We were kids you know so. I think that's the timing wise. This year is why and it was twenty years ago. Tapie flew by the. That's where I felt the need to express it because people always go understand. I understand it's like you don't really because you've never been. You're right now that we have a child it it just kinda hit me a little harder. You understand more than you didn't before well you said now you understand more. Your parents are coming from what I can imagine. What their perspective perspective of what they felt you you know on a big level trying to keep a family together on top of all that you know? It's it's it's just a what a load to carry and a lot of people stay together and the grow do something like that in those couples and families. Just disperse. Yeah yeah so I finally understand stand both ways We have more forget like forgiveness and grace grace. Jeez yeah totally and everybody deals with things differently so not too bad. Try but you back off what you were saying. I think the having the heart of gratitude attitude I forget the phrase but basically is really impossible to be to be unhappy if you can maintain a steady Eddie gratitude. And that's not saying like always being happier all are never looking at life in a negative way but but we play the gratitude game which sounds really silly but a lot of times sounds like Hellebuyck. What are you grateful for in? So I'll have I'll have to think stuff which is not that hard but at times it's like why am I wanna feel this way like and then almost instantly the gratitude attitude brings you out of that and helps you get a perspective of like okay. I have a lot to be thankful for You know there's no there's no reason to to be pessimistic in this situation or whatever so we've tried to incorporate that even with like live and stuff like what are we grateful for just to start trying to you know. Plant does Dawson her mind and help her understand the power of being grateful. You know what I mean for for every little fine you know even live in general absolutely. So it's you know helps us shift our perspective a little bit from just being kind of like the second I start start thinking about something in a negative light. That's what I'm like. Okay that's my trigger any to think of what I'm grateful for visit so easy to go down that rabbit the whole thing even loss or something super heavy like there's always like silver lining. You know that you can kinda focus on on or situations to be grateful for and I know we've talked a little bit about that. But yeah just there live in general. I think there's a lot of power in the in the gratitude gratitude you know yes snapshot of your phone and you know it's just it works out how it's it's hard to do. Sometimes a lot of people don't do it you know if it's simple thanks. You know. There's always going to be a big house or a nicer car. More money or success awesome. Somebody's doing this and better than you or whatever. It may be all shapes and sizes. But he's focused on what you have like have gratitude towards it. I think naturally literally you'll be happy and those things grow too you know and I don't know what's going on. I would you great gratitude. Good thanks foods which when you're having something I've been really trying to use gratitude towards lowliest now that we have sunny like I have the ability to let a lot of fear creeps into my life like I could describe thing you 'cause I can just go to like these things. You terrible things that you hear that happen to your like people's children and it's like how do you not live in that fear you know so how how do not live in that fear of sorry either God thing total knowing that Oh you know he's in control and it's out of our control but I think it was a Brunette Brown book and she was saying you know every time you have start having those thoughts thoughts 'cause we all have those thoughts as parents like you think of that for riffing thing that could possibly happen and and even if that thing didn't air it did happen. Nothing's GonNa ever prepare you for that moment so don't worry about it you know that's true. And so that's where she says to shift to gratitude the Tude every time you're looking at your child and you have that that moment where you're like. Oh my gosh. What if this happened shifted to? I'm so grateful I've got this beautiful beautiful healthy child and my family and it kind of snaps you out of it because nothing will ever prepare you for that moment in what you were worried about. They probably would never even happen right. Irrational fears that. We all have natural though that is so such a good perspective in my sister told me that to Catherine said she was like every day she says everyday has to be a good day and then also like why miss out on on enjoying the moments that you have with people that you love the most your children because you're worrying about something that most likely will never happen Bendon out of your control road racer. Then you miss out on your life would people that you love because you're stressing out about something that will Louis. Yeah you're not in the moment and that's ego and that's trying to control and not giving up to God so I guess you just you have to give everything up to God all the time. But how do you stay in that place. The book before Agreements League with your word. They'll take anything personal no fear you're all faiths were. Don't think anything personal don't make assumptions in. There's one more for Sephora agreements if you apply that but at the same time we're all human and it's obviously difficult not to live and or at least have fears or you see your friend get through tragedy and think man how in the world would I get through that or whatever. The case is but at the same meantime I think it's being aware and having that mindset and no man today I feel fearful let me just let me remind myself and ask God to remind let me hey like I am not in control of my life. You know what I mean and right now he has made this beautiful beautiful kid or this beautiful marriage or whatever the case is is in. Let's just leaving this today and not worry about tomorrow so I think there's quite a few times in the Bible where it mentions. Don't worry about tomorrow for it. Has Enough words self or give us this day. Our daily bread like it talks about just worried about today. We can't change yesterday and we can't control tomorrow so like just worry about today and then hopefully would that awareness. It can help us all because I think as humans like especially in this culture life breath. It's pretty natural to worry is pretty natural to try to control the situations and you know so I think that's just a good reminder. I think we're all there mentally really so just yeah we just gotTa remind each other and be a support system for each other. Just know when we're having those fears to like you said is give it up to God. I know that sounds so like Sunday school answered but but it's true. You know so absolutely not okay so I have the very softball question Shen that I would like to see what y'all thought about me off your professor so we grew up having to like analyze all of our thoughts. Why I look at Sonny? Luca in live in their these thrash lives that have just come into to the world. There's still so close to heaven you know like they're closer to heaven. They are to Earth right now is like I look at. What are you know about the other side you know like and why? Why did you come here like I I think to myself? Like what is it that she is wanting to accomplish in her life or experience. Like 'cause I personally believe that like spirits we'll have spirits and souls and like were in this earth to experience something because then we're all going back to the other side to back to heaven back to God so it's like why I did she choose to come here like so. Why do you guys think we come to this earth like why are we living? Why do we not just all stay in? Pierre Positive Heaven. Why is it that we come to this earth experience that turned to tyler? uh-huh does that when the hard question. That's a good question. I think that's a difficult question but at the same time I think it's simple and as you know for what we believe in for our faith and what I've been learned lately is kind of going back to the one day at a time. Live a simple simple life and you know what our ultimate goal while I think as humans were all built in made no matter what you believe. We're here for connection and I think we're here to connect with the other. Humans and connect with God and the Bible says again to reverse the Bible says our number one the calling is to love God and love people and so actually think it's just as simple as that thing. Is You know to kind of sum it up. I I think it's just love people into love God and to connect and obviously there's a lot of layers under that and there's a lot of confusion Asian and a lot of you know the twenty twentieth century. I think there's a lot of fog. Ns around what are you know what our purposes and all this and that and I think we as humans is also we put we put we wrap a purpose around a career or a rapa purpose around a relationship when we wrap purpose around you know a dynamic with a family or anything like that and we say well. My purpose is to be a good dad. My purpose is to be a husband and my purpose is to be a song writer or artist and you have pets fry. But I don't think ultimately all this all that's just the fun activities along the way or you know. I think I still think all that kind of ordained signed by God and I think that we're that is part of our purpose but the ultimate purpose I think for us being on earth is especially as believers is to love God into love. Love your neighbor to show them the love of God so I don't know I think that's at least that's for me. That's that's where I kind of try to go back to try to get keep that perspective on a daily basis especially in our busy crazy life where we think so. Many things are important. This is important. GotTa take this meeting to write this song. Got Us on this artist. GotTa do this play. These shows better to Donna's like man. Let's not forget the big picture here like ultimately when we pass away when people are at our funeral talking bass what do we want them talking about. How will we love people in my opinion and not how many songs we wrote for how many shows we played or how much money we made? I think it's I think that can sometimes sometimes turn into turn you know distract us from the ultimate purpose totally. Yeah having that human experience is I agree with him. All that other stuff is just you just do and stuff you know yet. Being Nice to people love one another and give to one another and you know like I said it's like it all just kind of feeds itself and I get. I get reminded of that often. When like I'll just take time to go have coffee with someone one or maybe like help somebody out off like it's just like Oh this is Anita day-to-day and I'll actually go do that and I feel so fulfilled and so whole and so so that was the best stanhood today and maybe it didn't maybe it didn't pay me or maybe it didn't you know maybe I don't have anything to physically physically show for it but made my heart was full and I can tell? That's what my purpose for that day was and so I think just keeping that perspectives is important and yeah. I've just been reminded that often lately just through little experiences and things I've had it's just like okay like although I try the to strike this week. Probably constant strike right totally. Why do you think we have to go through painful experiences? Why does that? Why is that such a part of this human existence? Why do we have to fail? Why do we have to feel pain? Wise that essential for us as humans. And why is it. Inevitable won't be but that's the way this whole life has been designed of course five lead higher power to me when I do go through hard things things. It helps me have empathy for other people that are going through hard things and I find myself when I do need to be there for someone else. I refer back to to the time when I had a really difficult time and so empathy and the the But again I don't I don't know I don't you know it'd be Nice if God put us in a perfect world and there was no pain and there was no sadness and there was no but then again we'd be living in a row very robotic world. Wherever will what did you learn? I mean when you when you go through pain you go through hard times. You're always learning something and it's always a fake building for me. It's it's a lot about fake building. You know what I mean and actually having to Lean on God and trust him in no man we as humans can't even wrap our head around what gods do and like we can't even begin to fathom like his ultimate purpose and plan and I think I think it just creates a demand for Jesus to be honest you know the hard times in life and and the way that he can give us peace. When there's no reason reason to be peaceful or or you know what I'm saying? Give us a comfort in Tom's. If you know Thomson need or times of pain and you know for me me. I've experienced that in a few times in life. Were just like okay God like I know you're here I know you're with me. I can feel I can feel you comforting me giving me peace and letters that I I it just. It's hard to explain but it does feel like okay. I should be so upset right now and I am sad but like like when I lost my dad I feel like it was a moment where I kinda prayed right after our God like I need you right now like hardcore and I'm either going to go this way. I'm going to go that way and I really WANNA. It's usually when I really wanted to go this direction. So help me out and like I prayed that prayer almost instantly and I could truly feel like almost out just almost smile all about it and it lasted for a while and it was still a journey for sure especially like months after that you know of just the healing process and the grief and all that but I could just feel God with me and I think to go back and kind of talk about what Michael is saying earlier about being a parent right now. I feel like you can kind of get the perspective of our relationship with God because it says that everybody on Earth is a child a son a son or daughter of God and to be able to take that perspective now of Man. He'll do anything for me like he's gotten he wants to take care of me. He wants to protect me when when we fallen unheard our knees or whatever the case may be. He's going to be there to help us feel better. He's going to be there to to help heal. But if you didn't follow her knees he's you'd have no need for your dad so I feel like there's a big there's an underlying kind of I think God uses that to draw into him. You know what I'm saying. That also gives us more faith in it. Encourages us to have to rely on him 'cause sometimes I've been there a few times in life where you hit the bottom and you're like look I got nowhere else to go but but but a I mean like I'm GonNa Trust God here and see what happens. I hear I hear you. I hear he's a good father. I hear he's GonNa take care of us and all this stuff so I'm going to test it out ended up any does so the bottom is actually kind of a blessing. Sometimes yeah I do you know. I think it's a it's an eye opening experience for anybody and you. You realized man. I'm not in control. I need help which we all do. You know what I mean and I'm not invincible. All and I'm not as strong as I think I just all those things. It's very humbling. So whether it's you know I think that many different definitions hitting the bottom. But you know you lose your best friend or your dad or your brother or anybody. That's that feels pretty close to the bottom. I had over this. You know what I mean So anyway place. Yeah I think again. I think it's just part of God's purpose and plan to draw US closer to him. I totally agree with that. Think about the father perspective. Like man that's wild. I've been listening just share messages lightly this even like the simplest things like that reminds odds me okay like like as a parent. Now we know like we would never we will never let our kids go out in the cold without clothes on or yeah. If they're if they're doing something we would do anything for kids anything and I feel like to have that perspective and realize man. That's that's what God will do for us and probably even more you know what I mean like. He did do that for us. So it's like okay. Let me just try to wrap my head around this level of love that sometimes we forget about you know because it's not it's not a tangible earn always audible thing right in front of us you know what I mean like. Obviously we're there to wake up every morning and in God's not always done in our living room shake and has to wake up but at the same time Tom. In retrospect I feel like he can. Is You know so if you can have that mentality and know that that's the relationship that is designed between us as humans in Him as God. I feel like it just helps you stay in that mindset totally next about that enough rambling. Yeah so okay. I WanNa talk a little bit about marriage and parenthood did not interested to hear your perspective to how what has been the most eye opening thing that you have learned about your Mayo. Start with marriage. I forget into motherhood and fatherhood what has been the thing that has changed the most in in your marriage in our marriage since having a kid for the better and not worse because none of its worst but like things that you've realised. Oh Gosh I need to work on this and I didn't have to work on it before a child but then also what has been the most incredible happened since having a child within your marriage you know since having kids you do lose a little bit of that freedom but we get closer together at the same time and can you really have to work together and and you know we've hit points where we get to that that low point of like. Oh my gosh. I'm struggling and what do I need right now. Like I need you here. I don't know have you found that you had been being because you said like that lesson you learnt earlier marriages you had to learn how to voice what your needs were. Have you found that you needed needed to do that now. The mom totally. I think just being intentional about what my needs are and what I need. Because I can't expect Taylor to know what to do vice versa and I think being a mom. You just have extra little intuitions that maybe a dad doesn't naturally we have and that they want to help you know they're they're they're wanting to help they just don't know how and so when you guys too but it's different. It's a mother instinct for for knowing what they're needing when they're eating and to the point where boobs tingle when the milk comes in and we're like we need to feed the baby. Thank tangle every now and then so just just being intentional with our time together and our needs and communicating communicating is huge for us and when I stopped stop communicating and I can tell you can what happens. Oh my Gosh I get emotional. Like what's going on. Why am upset? I'm like Oh because I haven't communicated I'm feeling and at least you have wariness to realize that right so you know that now like when you start feeling can you catch yourself. You're like oh I need so then how do you communicate. Do like. Write down your thoughts. You'll have like a family meaning or do you like how does it. How do you take the time to get your needs out wherever ever? We can't let me wherever we can make time for it in our crazy schedule we say. Hey we gotta talk Now I do make time for that talk to you. Whenever you feel like it I feel like trying to fall asleep? You anywhere around bedtime stories or you're catching watching him like sleeping in the brand places sleep pretty good just about anywhere if I'm frustrated about something and he's passing out there. There is no way he's sleeping right now. I will say like I think with kids it. Just it. Requires you to be more intentional. Because there's so many more things are juggling so you know literally will end another sounds a little bit surface level but like for us our calendars or like a really useful tool for us to be intentional. Like if if we stay on our calendar will go check our calendars. If we don't have a date night on the books you know within a week or so that will put it on there and we're pretty good about something on the calendar or on our schedule we're going to we're going to do it. It's almost like our checklist you know and even if we have something that comes up that that we would like to do behind talked about yet we have a little system in place where it's like we'll put it on the counter so we both see it and we'll put a question mark because that means we gotta talk about it before we remove the question mark so that way she adults do something say Titan game on Sunday and she like. We're not going to the Titans Games. Like what did you say that question mark because we talked about it yet so let's discuss it down. Just a complete guys never really happened but yeah it'd be a motocross race or something but anyway so so like just little you know being intentional about seddon little things in place that worked for for each relationship I think is is key and nothing having the kids really makes it extra important. Because you're as you guys know like you can. You can just go weeks and weeks and just be so busy and feel like Manhattan had one second second to sit down with you and have any time. We hadn't made the time you know what I mean like let's payroll calendar. Let's go on a date night. Let's go on a picnic even with the kids but you know just whatever the need is it helps you. It helps you voice that and implement and make it happen. You know I'm trying into make time for myself talking with my therapist. And you've got to get out of the House for thirty minutes a day and just go do something for you and so I just go to starbucks and I start writing a journal and that's like my loan time and so I can feel full when I come back to the house. Certainly I feel like I got my time. I got filled up and I can be my best or try. Be My best for the family. And I'll let's touch on this and then I'll quit much but I will say balance is key like in our life in every week. I look at a week and I said all right to have a balanced week need to have meantime. I need to have us on. Need to have a whole family time. I need to have workdays songwriting days. I need to you know. There's a lot of things but I gotTa make sure I need to have my workout like all the things that make my week hole. According to how much time with God like one on one time God I need you know what I mean so interesting making sure you have it all. You know what I'm saying. And if each piece is twenty percent or so I mean I I can can probably put it all in the five or six categories the. Yeah I gotTa have all that to be a full week into be whole and do not fill out a balance so it Kinda just go look at the counter and we've got a date nights. Got My Wednesday morning. Jesus while government Tuesday Thursday workouts and my wife come on Monday Wednesday or Friday workouts. Boys got the you know two days of songwriting. In writing that eleven o'clock I got a couple of meetings. You know what I'm saying like just to make sure you're getting the and it's also I mean but then at the same time I wanNa have I wanna live a life. It creates freedom so we're not completely living by the schedule so sometimes will literally put in the calendar. A free day where it's like. Don't book anything we're going to. They were the wind blows his day in a mind blowing up the farm dirt bikes. I don't know it might blow Percy Warner Park on high like or we might just. It might rain. We might stay in the house all okay. So I think there's a beauty in that too and you create freedom and create spontaneity but scheduled it. Then you make sure that your balance balance because balance is bells. Yes I love that. How do you think our marriage has changed for the better? Or what have we struggled with James for the better refreshing to it. You know so. We're still it's just now we'll see if coming up for air let's popped up. That has been a strong accent that the other. Why do you feel like has been something that you've had to wrap your head around good in a hard as a new parent as a parent on on upping the hardest bounce selfishness? 'cause like we've been together a long time and the life that we live and think that it it definitely definitely caters to you being selfish and just all about you you know so. I think that's been an adjustment for me with her. Is You know finding that balance of like okay. I mean it kind of comes naturally because you want to be with them and you want you know it's thing but I mean watching you become a mother has been inspiring hiring because you just make it look easy you know thank you it in. That's cool what I'm because I'm really just there to help you know but you've cooked every single meal events events the Nice role. He's become the show Hobby House. You've really eight dance with great wealth You're putting it into food but that's thing if me cooking in you know doing all that helps you while you're feeding every three or four hours and you take the night shifts. I'll take the mornings you know it's like we have a balance of ecosystem that we've just gotten to the agreement worse so we're happy so you were able to get out of the House today for a few hours. Respond sat there this morning. And you know took care of her then and you're you know you're let me out of the House. Okay do tonight when we go to the bar together though is like we do everything together like you and I would always go everywhere together and now we don't think we're we're still adjusting that's going to change for me though is like I used to go anywhere all the time. Do everything constantly. And now it's like really like I have to find a babysitter or higher the night nurse to come which is a blessing that we have these people at our right. I mean you have to really prepare to leave that's so true you back to your calendar and scheduling just. You just got to think about your weeks or months a little bit you know ahead of time and because back in the day there's a beauty about being newly married or just freedom all the time and say man we gotta worry about by this week like Napa. Let's do we want to do that day. And it's it's a lot of fun but when the kids come along it just requires that if you WanNa have healthy you got to be on schedule. Some people subscribe to that some people do. But it's just like well that's I have to make that a priority now version of a little bit of time. You know it's not forever. Yeah I mean we did the thing where we were married for five years before we decided to have a kid we are together ten years we tin. Yeah but when we forever he was twenty one. That's why I'm twenty. Four am older too much fine. Everyone Oh lord got to the point where we're GONNA do now. It's time and I think that's important for people when they get married. I mean you do what you want to do. But I think it's important to have at that time in the beginning to yourself. You know because like you do things like either. Buy a house together. And your career combining all these things and there's an adjustment period because our lives have been used to being us junior mean ah learnt how to weather all sorts of like storms together before we had kids. So it's like and now even if things get really intense or hard or we're gonNA season like right in our very intense season with a newborn but it's like are we already know every single little nook and cranny of each other's personality how interact together so it's like almost I don't worry about surviving heart thanks to you because we've already survived so many hard things together. I will say something that popped up for me. I'll just speak struggle. That had him with the beginning was I felt like you could continue living your life as normal normal exactly as a the mom in like obviously breastfeeding every three hours in like someone has to be there with the baby all the time I felt like I will never leave this house again. I will never be able to get out of this house. You can just leave you know so that was something I had to learn Tau to help it. Did you know that it's not doing it on purpose. But what are you GONNA do. Sit there with this whole day while we yes tyler and like I just need you to be here with me and sit very well. The ten minutes is all you get and then I gotta move but it took me so long to realize that frustration like oh my gosh. He gets to continue his life he gets to go to work gets in the morning. I'm still recovering. Can't work out yet. I'm breastfeeding my body. Is Not what it was. My pants. Don't fit nothing. And so he tells US emotional emotional staff and and we were on tour in the middle of tour. That's true so you just jump right back into being on the road. Yeah and I'm like. Oh I miss being on the road I WANNA go on the tour and how do I get back to that. But it's like how do you write it. It does feel like oh my gosh. What am I ever going to get out but I I mean thank God for our texts that we have going on with the girls and as crucial to have an extra guy so the same having guy friends? You're new to urge dad. A support group of female going through the same things has been so important for me Forgot we do the same thing I mean I've been out to to your farm is like did I just need a needed. This like Haley and I like. We're not going to go to farm all day from morning tonight because we can't wait against like that that I like four to six weeks like a shift in the change and everybody's going through I mean we're going through changes to you and what are you. What was it? Change what and what made you well. It's like this. Is it like that. You're just you you have to have. Everybody has to have a grace period. I think if adjustment to like big live and things like marriage kids kids huge career. Things like it you gotta just. Nobody gets it just like that. I don't think that can be one thing that I that I felt in this Kinda alike just to change perspective a little bit like for us as dudes you have your wife. It's like for the most part you know Alad for highly. She live from it and it was like it was all about us like you said as soon as that baby comes. Mom is all about baby all of a sudden husband Kinda gets pushed society which is okay and that's expected but it definitely takes him adjustment. You know what I'm saying in this kind of art you gotTa have grace on that just like you gotTa have grace on us. That is true. I mean very much so you know kind of at least felt that way where it's like. Yeah like if I'm on tour with me and it's amazing I get to have my my wife with me all the time and you know we love that but as soon as becomes it's like all right babies number one now and so you kinda get and even to the point of like you know Halo would cook meals highly. Do things will all of a sudden. It's like that just takes kind of a back seat. You know what I mean the priorities shift and change and for dudes and we. We don't have enough time or energy to do. We don't expect. Yeah I mean I see it. I'm like you know props to all women who had a baby because it's just Jeez. I don't see how y'all do but at the same time like hobbies said there's an adjustment for you ask for us you know how do you that like that. I have kind of not well. We're leaving in the same bed right now. 'cause I sleep with Sonny's room on an mattress on the floor positively. TV's in that it is truly felt bad that we aren't as like intertwined as we have been the past ten in years of our marriage. You know what's interesting about. US without the other day in. I don't feel anything towards it because to me. It's just that's what it is and it's not GonNa last rush separate that yeah it doesn't it. It's not like I'm like what's going on with our marriage now. It just seems like since the baby's here it's over but fuck man you're raising a kid feeding it every four hours waking up good on you for sleeping in the room on a little Palette you know and doing matt from midnight to six. Am You know. That's but I think he's motherly. Serve Breakfast in the morning for that. It might be because I need to have more faith or whatever but like I. It's like I have. It's fear that makes me want to do that. I'm so worried about her all the time. 'cause she's my number we want you know read. That's very common with a woman in the first child but then you look at like some friends of ours or like my sister-in-law. She's got five. I've got five kids Christmas time. There she was born in April she was just like four weeks. Oh there's kids running around and I was just like where's the new baby and she just late on the floor and the Dan on a worry about it like if she's not gonNa Roll it's just think it all changes how's your. I'm sure it's different for you guys now with a second one in the first one and like you said it's just a chapter. It's just a phase you're going to get your life back that you're gonNA get your marriage. The dynamic that it was a lot more he'll go get my brain back the brains ever coming up is rare win and on. Yeah I forget what I'm saying. It's looked at home I left Michael is the baby. We're always I yesterday today. I was going to get my lashes done because they're trying to like you know. Keep some your girl and I left my go with the baby and I forgot my the phone and I was like oh no panicking. I was like what. If he can't hand something happens you have breakdown in need me. But then I'm like he's he's her dad he's GonNa be fine. You're only capable enjoy the time with. No I know but it is. It says a learning curve. You've been a great. This is Michael Seven. He's always like it's all good pretty good. I think say to and I think you are doing amazing and I think it's amazing to have friends in the same chapter. That's why it's so fun to hang out with like new parents who are trying to bounce it off you know and I will say like along. The same lines is like. I think there's a lot to be said about asking for help. And not being ashamed of that and I don't mean necessarily having a nanny per se thank you can if you have the financial ability to get any. That's is incredible but if you don't I still think you gotta use your resources in your friends and your family around you to give you those days where it's like. Hey guys like like for me inhalers. I go. We're taking two days and we're going on a trip like the babies are GonNa be fun. We'll leave him with somebody. Here's the milk. Here's the deal. Here's how we put them to bad like in just trump's gonna work because trusting. Yeah Trust is hard but I think that's another thing about having kids just. Yeah well yeah I mean you don't WanNa you you don't WanNa go on get a babysitter dot com and just let your baby stay with anybody but I think he your thing but even we're talking about the other day like there's so many of our friends that we love and all her friends of ours that maybe their kids are grown or whatever and I'd love to come over and watch the baby for a day or I'd love to accept their hope exactly. I really think that's you know I think that's important as parents as hard as it may be just leaning gene in on that a little bit with your with your friends and with your family You know our family doesn't live in town so it makes a little harder but I can. I can name five people right now. That would love love to come over in or we could literally drop live and Luca off at their house for two or three days I think and that would be cool with it and So I think that's that's also something to take into consideration as a new parent. It's not saying that it's not hard because I do think leaving. Your kids is especially first time and I think is a mom me personally. I feel I don't you know it's the mom guilt that everyone talks about. It's a real thing and teddy struggle that especially because we you know having any and you know I'll be downstairs in my office and I hear them having having fun upstairs and like oh I should be there or I hear them crying. And I'm like oh I should go do that and I mean I have to kind of make myself be like no. Oh Hey this is what I need to be doing later. It can be present with them But there's still struggle definite guilt that I'm just like oh my gosh I I should be there. I should be making those memories of them. I should take them to the park which we do. But you know and I can't be there for them all the time because then I can't be my best self but it's that constant struggle when I'm not with them I want to be with them and then when I'm with them you need to find time for you. Yeah so just finding that balance again. Just something we're learning. It's it is a real thing to learn. It's it's very very easy to like. Go hard one or the other way you know working moms to like. I have a ton of friends who had newborns and gone back to work and like having to have their their nanny fulltime care. You know it's like but they need to work and so it's just it's just you have to accept so much to the parent and I talked briefly about this on previous podcast my roommate's but like when we ended up choosing having a C. section like. That was a really hard thing thing for me to wrap my head around the beginning because I felt guilty. I'm so hormonal smitten. Cry that like I wasn't having natural labor bailing. No Way I can cry. The it actually is a real topic. Ring Hits a personal I. It's like I call my sister and she was like the faster you can Dan. Sorry busy the faster you can accept that parent is not perfect in like you gotta make a decision and stand by it. Am I know that like they're all fine decisions. You know everything is fine. There's not a wrong. There's not a right and just make your choice. Feel good about it and then don't go back and let the question and that is such a struggle for me to question myself. I in my previous life before child I could just question everything a million I could analyze everything. I think think I used the wrong thing. Worry so much like I should have done this or should not or like. Oh my gosh. This person's upset with me. Because I did this but like I know my heart is good I yeah no. I'm choosing the best I can and now as a parent you have to stand by that and you can't like question. It grew for like saying those things because a lot of times. We have such such negative self-talk. And for you to be saying I know I'm a good mom you know I can do. This is so huge. The mets ca self Taibbi huge. I've recently tapped into self talk. I didn't even know until like this. Year Michael Chandler Donald Michael Chandler enemy fighter sort of for instance. He always talks about self-talk and I didn't even know how bad myself talk was until I started checking in on it tells where the hardest ourselves in anybody. Yes allergist like riddle to myself. I am saying whatever you follow it with Don't follow it with negativity. Check yourself the mom guilt thing is weird to think from our culture and our society. I think it also changes like even with like breastfeeding verse pumping you know nanny versus. There's not having any like all the not working right. It's like man like just just do your best know that you're a great mom and don't don't compare your situations or listen to a cultures telling you because honestly in ten years coaches say the opposite anyways. It's like nowadays. Thanks leave your back before so many things that you could be guilty from refill that you know even you know. I'm obviously not a mom so I don't really know but I- I'll just say just from observing from announced such perspective is like it's real and it's just. It's kind of sad that our culture puts so much pressure on moms and so many expectations. And if you don't do this then you're bad well it's like you said there's not a writer overall of how many months she breastfeed or there's not a right or wrong on a lot of times I should do it in public or not your average natural so anyways autism encourage all moms to do and to have confidence in no. It's different for everybody. You know so then there is no wrong or right wrote it is hard. That's really hard to do that. But I've been trying to lately. My motto is just been kind of to to celebrate the little victories. Even if it's got out of bed and I brush my teeth got makeup on before the kids got up to a miracle. I did it out the door on time and the kids are dressed in those little things like yes we did it uh-huh so it's the little victories. That are actually the big victories. And I've been trying to really just encourage those instead of at the end of the day being like. What did I get done today in kind of being down to myself? It's like no we a lot because sometimes at the end of the day. I really can't tell you one thing I did besides just keep signing alive in theater and like you were there all day. I don't really have the time and wearing the sweatpants I wore last night to sleep like brush my hair or teeth and I'm like well. I'm just expose exhausted busy all day but yeah you have to be alive. That's a huge job. Yeah it and and so we don't give ourselves enough credit for those. Yeah well you guys really hit a lot of time. Oh ooh I like trump every podcast up with leave your light so just leave some inspiration of obviously they were this whole thing's inspiring. We're talking months bar things but like how do you want to inspire people to let some wisdom on people just to spread some light. Here's mine just that. Hit me right when you said that this kind of along the topics of what we're saying but I think whether you're parent whether you're not whether you're remarried whether you're not you know wherever phase alive. I think there's a I don't think we give ourselves enough grace. I really think that's that's important. Because like you said the self talk and all that stuff like you can be so hard on yourself so I think is just giving yourself grace a main if Jesus can be can give us so much we give it to ourselves. You know what I mean. Give cut ourselves some slack. Every now and then and don't be so hard on the self so there's a a little light negative for either I guess mine would be Just to I I guess we said this before. But just remember that God's in control and to just take that weight off of your shoulders so true and and just live your life and enjoy it and not be fearful. Because he's he's got us. That's so hard not to do so true so hard. It's yeah you just have to constantly remind yourself l. from that every day. It's this amen to that I guess mine will be comic said before this is my personal struggle. Is this owning my decisions. Like trusting myself and trusting my instincts. Socially now's a new mom like a half did house instincts so I would say like trust your intuition. Trust your instincts and know that if your hearts in the right place and you're doing your best then don't go back and over analyze it and beat yourself up just know that like you did the very best. She can do what you felt like you were led to do and then you have to let it go. They have to do you got this thing. I Tyler the grace thing. I think that's really important but you know one thing always try to do. Every day is say thankful for things that I don't have anything for Thanksgiving. Do you speak that out loud. You speak that all in and then find gratitude not at least once a day take a deep breath and find gratitude and something in. It'll change today but yet I'm always been a believer that you know your journeys it's not someone else's your you know what I mean your own your own path and plan so something doesn't happen for you don't mourn over it gets move onto the next thing but just just be thankful for everything that he puts in your life and got takes out of your life because that's the way it's supposed to be totally awesome good. Well I just want to say before we get finished here then we look up to you guys. Some guys are incredible parents and incredible friends and incredible people. And so just encourage you guys a little bit. We Love Y'all so much to you guys a lot and thank you for having us on your podcast at Y'all credible examples of all things. Thanks very inspiring. So we're grateful to have you guys in our lives. Thanks for sharing your heart on this podcast native coming on. Hey thanks for coming on okay bye.

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7.11.2020 Bath, Books and Bobby

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7.11.2020 Bath, Books and Bobby

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After you per se enjoy that and oakley lockdown closer friends on on this is good muck lucky to be yeah positively arrive Does one guy a isn't scott covert and his name is john and awful lot about a full mostly. We refer to him by his first name. That is impressive enough. Because he's not resilient sometimes get shaved leverage on a swedish and it is not traditional to refer to swedish footballers by their first name sap lawson no none rolling free. The plays in my mind. That i know from sweden would even coaches yukos fan. Just call him man he's got all interventions you call them mark is it because of the sheer personality that we records fence fan latins watson dirt turn the section into about spend because it's not fair we'll do a separate one on vat let's get right on. This is a guy who is currently the cop. Hong kong yari top scorer in syria at the tender age of thirty nine and dipping his birthday today. I think it's high time that we noted that praise on him. I know in fact jean-marc you who said it needs to be part of the partner. Seven hundred percent. Yeah over dissipated a bit down a robert hall watching his goals the way from from marlborough and ox to ac. Milan eventers galaxy. I mean look at the clubs play. I don't think club is played for his one something and on off he played for. Psg until a second ago the annoy remember. There was a really good graphic that they had a close scores sports and it showed over the past ten years like that. He had never finished lower than third in the league with a team. And i i. I plus blood second i but i think you know is the worst of played for in the league the exception of la galaxy because they didn't really betrays when he's playing although we did get tongue. I think his agent said that when he was thirty five years old. You're too good for the mls at thirty five years old. That's menu your retirement so of dining out face and he's come back and he's played for some great clips. It's impressive at milan at the moment to avoid teams to go back to milan. Everybody saw as such a swansong. But he's he's actually he's leading impressive where he's got lucky mix of plays around him his name and Periods last season just pretty interesting thing was literally on his way out with rao fragment of ready to come in and any turned it around and now you've got the picture it made me just laugh as you talk lewis at galaxy and his debut go way foot with basset of a man land gulf lot. Gold day yeah. I think you. I know he's tape. Remember the because the i was so impressive. Less about content is peak times Listen to really notice. Podcast that was company has opened back. Listen to steve. Crossman interviewed him when he's allah galaxy for bbc world service and he talks about essentially why he felt that italy was where he became goalscorer et cetera s race century to score goals. And he talks about when he when he was growing up. It was all about skills. As about street. Football grownup in model mode wasn't almost as important. School goes important to embarrass you. Play nice everybody got rex. That was never that burden to school goals when he finally arrived at ebay in two thousand four. He said that's where pathway to become a true striker and underway. Speaks about italy's is is just beautiful One of the things. I love our pastures savage savages. To what is the team. Self book is something. Michael kaley talks about a mock as wicky. Sports analysts on twitter. And he says is that sense. Create this amazing persona that kind of occupies everybody's time and and he's so good it deliver in la That when you actually see him interviewed prickliest so noise. You've got such a thoughtful. Caring person. deeply loves his family. Lock me talk passionately about. Do you ever seen my family in pitches. like no because law liberty. Make sure that. Like i protect my wife and my laughing. Several meetings like we've got to make sure that football is a case of. That's me but we've got to make sure the family's okay because one doesn't work together and cause as christmas talked about alexey lot you'll agent said that your wife wanted to come to la. It's like that's not necessarily true. So my wife like la deer but but we want. It's find a happy medium. I just thought you know the ego driven. The humility isn't it. Yeah yeah. I love love this. This character is created. Go about town. Mark got that he's created this this persona this just fascinated. Don't think this anyone use anyone's done in football like him really know and it's almost like you said it's the separation of kind of the model the pitch and around on the pigeons. None of the man on the pitch and latin is the one that uses this kind of this. We'll call it. Almost verges on oregon's and allow people to do things are them but it's just so supremely confident and to see in top level be that confident You know he's always going to succeed if he's got lebanon of confidence in the level of either is is unbelievable some of the achievements. He's achieved golden bull. Two thousand fourteen. Two thousand fifteen two thousand sixteen syria or the year two thousand eleven two thousand and eight thousand not puskas award two thousand forty. The list goes on and on and on the on the goal is like the best show. Yeah go against england. That's how long ago that was killed. Fourteen six years ago fairway yesterday. I always i've the utmost respect for any cluster eclair that goes into their midst midsayap too late as that can still perform the highest level because the dedication to your body your mind. You know emotionally and physically. He's obviously still doing things to keep his body in top shape. He probably eating even better than he's ever done. He's training even harder. you know. and that is the mark of the mount himself which is why the results are showing. I think so. I always respect the players. Really say what annoys. Me is the fact that i'll be thirty eight listeners. I'll be thirty. I on here. Younger ones lhasa. So to see a thirty nine year old performing at the level that he's performing when i had to kick around with my under seventeen just today and today. I've always dying this morning. It's just it makes me sad but again it shows what supreme supreme athlete is and let lewis said. He must take care of his body because he had a serious injury as well. That's not forget that that was a few years ago. What did he do monday night. Knee ligament isn't yeah. Yeah to of the appreciate probably not quite as great player. But gigs you know. Played long into his nearly as forties coming now dini's Reached the age as well but gigs spoke about the importance of things like yoga on the body and also use accompanies himself in it then. Yeah yoga shift didn't quite get wasn't spa so i ended took some like doing yoga before. And after games myself and it does make a difference in terms of your recovery rate and your ability to connor feel pain. The next day from all access is so was a big Advocate uruguay as well as the goalkeeping position but he still paid a a really high standard to loan to fully fully chain of east villa. A keeper as full lot lake. I i know several academy do it now for the young players. I do like a couple of hours yoga week now to just try and get into the habit of donate which is injuries so yeah. I come from from gigs longevity of his career. But let's not talk about this week. Not me bringing up probably lewis. Yeah jeeze company out. Just cutting or with god's to him coming back to me lem it's gonna be a short one or is it going to be like casino. He's so happy to move around things. I love this part of me. That wants to see an stay at me. And as part of me that wants to see another chapter in. Beslan abraham story Because i love about hearing him. Tool keys is so proud. He has traveled and and he's really proud of the fact that as a sweet he's he's representatives countries across many many consonants and A great deal and scored and loves the fact. Like i didn't score warmly. Just say one league in school he said i like school everywhere and i just love that and and any yo talks about to expire how passionately kind of the relationship between italian football in him is something us gordon into it but yeah look where does he iraq with him on com connor. You'll you your plan will say confessed book. Yeah where's he ran years a play. Well always said it in our group chat that we have and for me. He's a player of all generation. And he is up that maybe not quite on the same level just below. Run out of a message for me. I think someone that can travel to those countries you say and do it. Wherever he's being does is worthy of that title and a fun fox the view guys during the week as well that in every standard minute of the ninety minutes football has scored a goal. So i mean second them. That's anti if minute. He scored a goal in everyone. If he goes yeah he goes down a youtube robert hall to. You'll find the video that shows you every go from every just a joy to watch. Yeah and so yes sir goes cannot cannot just burst and say to answer your first question when he said that he said you wouldn't it if he's going to stay at milan. I think what we've got remembers. Well he's moved to milan was obviously while the club. No in turmoil at all he was actually in rebuild. Some people saying that it's possibly one of the most kind of well put together. Rebuilds of modern time in italian. Football is a lot of people at the helm for once and the recruitment strategies. Get better betty. That when they signed center tonight the season their recruitment strong. But like one thing already remember about about latin particularly. My boss went out. That fanatical about boston. He the bus things really complicated. We go for hours about it. But one of the things was the east set is is quoted somewhere saying that he couldn't believe the school boy mentality that the that the players followed the lead of the manager and that was it was unquestioned. He said i like people run red lights. I don't remember reading. That like age is gonna like this guy so he so on the cusp or sorry. He sits in a field of of different questions announces. he's he sits with different discussions football. I think it could be a great coach as kind of leading t really very challenging mentality. And i think he loves challenging south and i think the his moves plots really plays that game but in milan already thinking spiritual home in the think that it would not be a It'd be a very charming from to finish that. And i wonder if you just want that like very talented. Just wraps up nicely. Like a big move to swindon all what he's fifty nine. Maybe he just wanted to stop playing. What i'll loud shout out to not know roger bonaparte fifty-three yes. Wpro gabriel iphone station gonna sisters well fish. Lovely legend of the local games love absolutely that is so good to hear mocking did level table brunch. A couple of years obsolete pleasure and we got in several disagreements of things and a love. Very very very much is awesome. Awesome overnighters plucks. It was trying to chat me up to saunter them that narrowed passed. It comes off. No go some pasta but yeah big call also speaking to someone about somebody's injuring combat. Obviously still be planning fifty four rotor. A very serious injury money yet. He talked about his life growing insurance. And he just walked by larson coming over here as a young teenager or early twenties. Come over and start his career here. It's just mason absolutely amazing. Yeah call equality guide. Great sharp young. Great show I'm i'm sure it's not time with approve as well of of roger still absolutely tanking oil. Em the regional set moving on as he spoke very fondly of marina and actually when a listen to latin speaking. listen to marina. speak even that Like the concert that cadence navoi space and how they they actually kind of almost like emotionally talk about football. I was thinking is quite similar marino. Cool him the extension of his right arm on the pit Quite clear about yeah like my expectation and level of professionalism high end spoke really passionately impulsively. Yanni about pumper. And just about how. During his time at you know is he held him in the highest regard. As like you know the another love. That huron around rather by the plays are committed and stuff at the moment in the united line-up some whatever i'm he spent really really high of just lot he's gonna you just give a hundred percent all the time like napa average levels An level of poor. He's come on young. So i'll i'll throw it certainly high. Yeah yeah. i'm saying that you know he told him. In that regard which is which is again kind of counter narratives thought we but we hear law where where does latin time eugene. I'm not gonna stats now automobile. They are like tremendously impressive. I think given given the swedish you know. He's poverty and social setup that no fence sweden is probably going to go on to win anything much or let's say at least on the grand scale of international games and they're not going to go into and challenge which. I wonder if the axiom has worked in. I'm sure he's actually just way. More happy might even spurred him to do the things that he's done on the club level and make the most of it kind of thing. I've always found him slightly insufferable. Like when you're younger 'cause you listen to the content story developed with the guy and and then as grown older but she realized that it's something that he's used to the story of latin is you know in the way that he shapes everything is. It's just it's actually quite marvelous and once you get past the know the taste and you know he. He scored against a lot of a lot of clubs that he's probably quite dislike to the people that he hasn't played for he's possibly on the most technical. What i love is being tool guy. You know you know. You feel incredibly clunky in life. I'm six t listeners. And it kinda sucks especially when you don't know what to do so slander. Seems like someone is. He just owns every single inch of his body perfectly like he knows exactly what to do with himself on the pitch and i think there are a lot of people suffer from any high but specially told the guys but he's so mobile and like and even as he's grown older he knows how to position himself out of the I think that for that reason. Like i've got to put him up with some favor ever for sure for sure. He's he's He's quite incredible. Really is like the martial artist of football. Yeah noise yeah totally because I think we all agree. And a half of found anywhere that breaks down But scored late goals scored in total four hundred and six of the offsets bunga to nine right foot. Fifty seven left for For the other two. But i'm like if you could only divide. The full into parts of the foot aren't think there was a player in the world's that schools with so many different pasta abraham in. Yeah and what he truly able to know your saint george. What he knows. Positions put uses the of was full. I'm one of the things in is book is a picture of his feet and he talks about luck. That's where all star slide without those. There isn't the rest of it. It's really interesting that see how we talk specifically and identifies speak specifically moore and they are and he uses them in such a unique way. School goes jiggling for sure. Such a conscious player the best way to describe conscious of everything. Yeah yes super hyper. La- i don't say if we're gonna if we're going to move on to face goes if anyone's if anyone's thinking the favorites los angles mine straight immediately. Like being is when everybody was on his case. Barcelona and i think it was against rail deroga- and it's a free kick and it is like an absolutely missile and you could see in the moment. I think they went onto win. Four four on or something. But you could see that. That was such a message in it because the entirety of the new. We're like on his back and he just went and hit this thing and my god. It's so hard he hit so hard. I love talking to hit in very hot. The two favorite golsen me a volley for psg describing the just so many is not one actually instead. But i think in some technical. Billy a manifest. Soy's what you did x. And he just said about four players hotdogs and that's my favorite lewis like swallowing go is an absolute thing of beauty on the thing about it is that it's no longer a goal. That's latin can school. Because i was watching over the last couple of days to watch his physical stature. Fill out from like when he like. You know a thinki- at i think it sure avenue school dot gov didn't they you know that's not yet sure he was. He had his heart the anonymous physically and then when he gets you've acres harlow berry survey run. Cnn progressive gradually but that goal is unique for him because very quickly he moves away from being not talk to play out. Because i suppose it didn't really fulfil not fulfil but that wasn't his role is used when he was at you the incident so we've mentioned already before but it's go to was is not with one. That was going to be fab on. I think you've got to put it into context as well and when you can turn up to a new country you've never played in questions are being asked. Because you're you're getting older. And you take a full pay. Java sand ally welcomes latta. And then you go and school that goal on your debut just with the context around it that actually family and the commentator makes as well. The commentators mental talk comitatus abroad was the right kicking compensate. You need to go for it more sake in this country. Come on the screaming. I want to go fifty times right. Like repeat tyler. Just lease it. Something that thrive thriving come just come together though and and just recognized that had school kick against england broke care hough not broken thing not like when that happened is from nail salon. It's a shame went playing sweden seen so he can break. It has to be careful. Paid for dip break in your break. Mark exactly yeah He does like technical place already. Likes going in on him okay. Guys let's Let's wrap okay. I'm sure it'd be disappointed that moving on but But we do have to so listen at the end of part one. We shall be with you shortly with iota. I think young. You're going to be like you. You're looking forward to this anya. On the ethica was that ever says is to see such a historic competition Just going to be played. An empty stadiums by a of clubs are dangerous season to exist still being able to exist as they. Currently dave while talks of a european sleep league lemes logic for them and the primarily charges forty nine hundred hundred a game. It's really sad to see great clubs in this competition plan this week cabins fans not even able to watch the dots of cave it but the lack of help and lack of support from bigger clubs is absolutely criminal and the fact that this is all happening whilst bigger clubs Complaining about congestion putting in a second. This told him it just really sad football. What have you done. Welcome back party. We have spent time given on the praise and loveday deserves and and it's not one to a lovely kind of problem for lucky problem for cloth let program for liverpool fans are not in a nice topic. I shop because diogo. Georgia has really put pressure on bobby for me and i saw we all know that for meaner despite his mazing work but does in together self sacrifice he continues to come under pressure And question marks over over his goal up and justice in with the intent and the knowledge that he has a skill set to to avoid relief for needed and saw in but he's conduct of georgian unpacked. Me one spring. The table was he gave a real nice breakdown of of what he thought. Georgia was kind of bringing imposing so. Yeah kind of expanded non. Well i think one of the big things is when when he saw a player. There's so much in the premier league teams onto player. That should be so much leeway in time for that play. Settle because you know. It's it's wrong to judge in this so much that can change. What i love about live was transferred stress. Jeez that they went for play that was existed in the league and apparently was a big reason why they didn't sign team on even though team looks like he's going to be a player it was because they wanted to go for plight of his already set within the league. I think that was like tick one. They just signed someone that you know wasn't far to travel on these you know he's he's already in the in the country which i loved and so you've got this like this. Betting in time doesn't exist as much because Suddenly this place is ready to go. And in the words like equal. Pay the question today. Play the best football career playing with the best team of micro. And that's like a really key point for everyone to understand is that diogo dotson is together now with a free that he probably never even dreamed of flying at such a high level and then now that trump serial champions which is crazy so i think the off in the main the main thing and it is from young a bit too. 'cause like you lewis's someone is pulled up a few times from perhaps hasn't begun to defend the me know all the time because i don't think you know as anti-brussels said recently on espn live is like you stop. Judging plays on goes just like stop. Stop judging them on shots nonstop. Charging them on blocks in this country said like it. We're obsessed absolutely obsessed and And i say it's something that i think leads to a lot of the reasons. Why why we lose so much in. This country is white. Certain players like the always was this world will fade away. 'cause appreciate now. I think the the problem is if you playing in a in a free in a false snide sap clubs clubs two thousand seventeen to two thousand and nineteen teen has revolved around this. This means folks nine row than you. You must chip in and the chip in in. Stop playing quickly. Pass a move stopped. And i think that. That's why people like young vindicated and actually people are andy brussel. Can't be as defensive because until you show someone that's that's not how it's gonna work then what's happened is justice come in showed a different thing and i wasn't quite sure if if he was going to work i wasn't hundred new press loads and a new he'd given go in a new it's slide nice and low. He loved running off jimenez low. What was i can see that working but it confused me a little because You know he likes to play this wide left and kinda come in or at least that's what nuno's doing what it turns out is that this guy is insanely passi Way better than i saw his his rotation and movement from receiving in the final two then pushing his body towards the go is really really impressive. And it's actually a feature of like this as karna the king of it my opinion. It's looking like he might take the phone nine row and stop it to stop using. I think it looks especially a particular against that. We played a really really fast. Ticky tucker stuff will through three. It was way more reminiscent early on the path and actually way more reminiscent of his team. You know that passenger passing go and it was just. That was doing it. He's a monster. Impress is attacking presi. We've just suddenly got this. I don't think it's any coincidence that we lose our best friend or one of the best friends the world people say and sabino who are think is actually nearly always as good. We've lost these players and will not leaking. Goes why while we have. We have a new best defender team. Jay justice pressing. Bill is absolutely up off the charts. Linda said it in preseason that this guy was this suppressing monster and with three finishes against atlanta to move on so young. Because i want to pose it to you young. What you think is well is like auditing. Got and it pains me. I think i've seen for me. And i finish that well in a long time. Let's say are certainly i'm seeing. Grab a hat trick against eight very very tournament football team. And that's lanta so yeah. It's it's a tough one for me to swallow. Because i love bobby enough. And he's brilliant. But if we want to attack the taco and defend defend via and his group said like they're going to go for the second league by tacking it than i ain't gonna happen with bobby. Looks shot pieces. Real shop a lot to digest just trying to take it all in a lot to talk about their diet. By right young v some pressing stops Excite me defensive precious defensive. Mid third hacking said the average is six point two five in the defensive erred. Mid thirty seven point five attacking third ten point a and sala is ten point six attacking third monday eight point six bobby community knowing point six like he is. He's across the board. That's what the president jeff. It shows that money in him. Money is the one that will drop to precedent in in the designs of the pitch and seems like yeah can do it up and do all law things try keep this straight pinpoint I think time may we're not going to live in one of a nice by for the butler. Look me no. Bobby kennedy and bobby bobby lewis young palm way. The name of your christmas book. Would you buy me like melby or both select. I knew right seriously. I think if you go in to try defend bobby camino the argument for it would be that if you took him out the soil for one as effective bring joy in and it's proven that actually live where even more effective right now concerned. They've lost their best centre-half and sent to be perfectly honest. And or so you would. You would want in a way you kind of want live with not be playing as well to support the argument. Actually bobby is a key piece to this. Live who saw. You've just gone out absolutely battered one of the best attacking teams in europe. That has been lauded. They're attacking football impress by pressing them extremely high up the pitch and forcing into make errors. Real bad errors and also get an in behind them now. I appreciate lot non-ford so they're always gonna leak goals atalanta. But he's doing it in the premise. Well i'll ask the have to eat some humble pie. Because i did question the move a diplomat in the group chat and i you know i will eat humble pie as i seem to do a lot this year. Right louis nervous. No i'm and embrace me. Yeah obviously came in the left side. Rowena like right east support. Money play games and they've obviously seen something in an image guys sent comply central figure in a high price and we can really get something out of him and almost that you know that kind of loyalty towards and it shows loyalty and football a lot of talk. 'cause you know. The loyalty towards phoenix for menia was gone. Well done in favor of in favor of you know. A new coin afford yet doors can agree with a blend now moving into kind of ticket tax style which looks after the ball you know. Take the ball past the type approach. That stops them from being attacked that. Because they you know there was a worry that in the side that they were going to recommit goes so now that owning the ball and the best way to defend is attacking someone is his goal and keeping the ball one of the best players. During that by the way jack greeley's but different story for different southgate endorsed chick stuck out. Southgate take up here. Just late trippy trippy. Now that russia is also just seems to be of that mode and let you say press across all those says at such a high rate free by the way is you know must be one of the highest person from freezing well football. So it's a blend is a blend of kind of like i. i still think that don't dortmund with gagan. Present live giving presents viewpoint. Oh and now. I think without virgil van. Dyke without vino. I'm with georgia in a more central role. It gave him presents viewpoint. Oh moving into woods as ticky tack a bland like doors references. And it's something else and if the shame as a finance liverpool it's a different way to break the process in but it's just i just think klopp feels like ease slowly batting them. All the different ways like highlander. Lot highlander to where the characters like just literally my single skill. So just kidding people and absorbing the scale and like he's just like this is one way to press. This is another way press. This is another way and this is one way to break press. This is another way break press or yet now you do won't search win to place. An upper bound free keep on the ground to the minute to keep him on the ground thing. We lost for a long time and i was straighted seeing i. I really think like either knocked lawton heads mckay strains in the team but like like cuts jones plays. He's a really different player to of traditional english. Attacking midfield as you take. Someone like someone like you lump parts. Jared's that rose so it's gone. Is that contemplates seem that lung-busting box to box midfielder anymore. Cut jones was played pool on the ground. He wants to like receive. And i'm pass ford He has he has a great mentor. Antioch seem to show him this and the way that they Attack at the moment is it's just so different two thousand and fifteen sixteen klopp and like i love the east developed. The squad and team like you must like foggy showed the world like you must change all as miss change. It used to. I couldn't believe when when when the second league in a row and they had to let you have as an iranian and run in the team. And i remember thinking how is he put this together. It just came out of nowhere to have this identity and it was a new thing. I was a new way and thirty. Did anyone and maybe club might be able to do that. Because he's won a bit but he has an enormous amount young club and at maybe not as much as he'd love to I'm not sure. I think it's amazing. But if you're talking about moving into the next five years of his career how does he emulate again. Hasn't craig more success or it's going to be a different scores and it's gonna be a different style. The only go soleus to kind of bring level to that level to right winning it once know you want to dominate english football for period of time as long as the clock still has enough passion to get yellow-carded when he five no up because he didn't get the panel once. I think you'll be absolutely fine. Twenty news canola. Just throw some stuff away to points. We've no no stock as well as we said just as more of a playing more of a stroke or role than the post nine one eight bucks out with the goes for ninety at one point two seven competitive ameinias zero point one six Expect it goes almost twice. As high as roma's zero point five nine shots per game over double four point two five shots per game for jetta one point seven two for for media but just throw bit shade on it. The most important stop of of x. g builder per ninety yet. I couldn't find for mania is ahead of in two zero four and zero point. Three seven o'clock may that speaks volumes about mena's eleven hurry grain. Stand thank you. Thank you very much enough. Run vogel say and mutual about luck to them treatment. George made the point about Acquiring him last year if you look at congress the involvement of the the front free of liverpool and shock. Creating actions is really good. It's a good metric. I think looking at the involvement place especially if you just look at a good level of minutes. Sala was three point seven six mondays. Three point four. Seven and bobby community coupon nineteen which is amazing. Essentially your interactions in a match. You're gonna lead to three shot creating three three three and a half and frame which is fantastic diego justice three point five nine and if you look at his template in his volume of minnesota cheese last year. The underline stats. Like how old is he. Twenty two twenty three twenty three twenty three. You fight the player for yes. Yeah isn't that fruit. And that's why she talk about putting these kind of cornerstone plays in now that not not a replacement which is what really like it. It's something that. I've been a bit critical of city with that. I don't know if that deprecating place are offering something different although we may after or after may after eat crow. And the was farren. Taurus looks as though he might actually be doing the thing But yeah yeah yeah. Yeah absolutely absolutely. But i don't think i don't think in any way It would see the end of georgia. What did you ask do you think maybe Tiago works better with jota as opposed to work as well with simeon. We're gonna see how. I just hope that yoga complacent more I know i think i think that I think geography plays a lot deeper than attacking midfield is. He's still attacking the field. But if the meanest into town and it's just too too early to say we'll see which player can move best around that area. I think a big part of the problem is with amino is is. He might have a little bit loss you know. I remember watching him very privileged to watch it when he was in his time show. I watch law. Football in germany was lived there and she played an enormous amount in midfield and he was a renowned tackler. And it's an. It's an interesting dilemma with zone as technically brilliant as rubber for me. Let's not forget. This guy's going to perform anywhere he goes. We're just talking about the elite of the elite of the only the best possible position for this and so I think i think the last thing maybe sound. It is young and copy so so good. I wouldn't be surprised if all of these players perform together really well like. I think that that is probably on the cots that they all the always like. Well he's going to take his place tonight. He's doing this needs to while he's chopped out now and it's very brash. As what actually. You look the way that bay and just will not champions league in paris. The paris itching komen balanced and hansie flick balanced really. Well people people asking questions left. Well none of these players on the bench on the pitch looked unhappy. They they look more than that because they know the game's changed. The game is changing. Need all of play in different ways. You mentioned about not are going to work better than for me. My answer to that is probably. Yes when george said geographies little bit deeper. I don't think that matters when you look at liverpool's performance the other day. How many goes came from deep. I mean jotted second the ball from was from gomez was is well and game was his real small i touch. And just on the laugher onto the what for two touches in the back of the net and that's just straight from gomez one mentioned as well as his first go the strengthen feeling the pressure that defender on him as well could have many other. Strikers would have gone over. I think but he's helped him off his feet and the lou check it was passed. And he's like oh god he can chip. That's what he was like. Oh chipper on our hands and then thad goal as well the recognition of spice spaces in and you can hear if you listen to you and him screaming over against idea to let them know that found the pacing behind kepa made it easy for him to be on his russian out set himself but simple border saw the road at home for a trick cannot just say listen. He just missed. The object discuss them mocks face as rapper. Yeah so does that. But yeah i i think around game to be honest. He's he deserves to be playing for four side. And the fact that he's gone to live is just elevate is game and i think he's going to be one of the key players going forward. He knows he knows. He's good to audit. Think i've seen a player's score hat trick in champions league and kind of like not celebrate like you didn't celebrate much like he he's fully. Hey can i can cannot just show on. 'cause isn't it interesting. That had like two five news from english teams against attacking position in the past couple of weeks and that secrecy perceive different Five nails right and They contained to hattricks to find it fascinating that this is something that's occurred. And the difference in employees install and the difference in managerial position and play a position player. Power or these things like football truly is just. It's just brilliant. Because you could you could pick apart. That's that's a five thousand word essay right. there on. Those two forms is why they're so so indicative of style and play and why one likes identity in one gains it town challenge now professor. Norman nifty games to remember. We used to teach school. He wasn't protecting eyesore. In fact i won't use sound much describing. But his name is mr mom lay and east Horrible essays for you. If you've got your at your homework if you lay it is not right. I can cause the white one on an orchestra just brought me like three pages on an orchestra. I think he might jack. Nice guy to steph lot. Aw denault on box in on the markets may be literally just love in so much might be at least night now. I i was so long ago but yeah he's just known for being mean and so maybe maybe in an altera going gonna be setting. Want no. I'm not to some cool frankie struggle. It was just thinking speed. Five thousand you five thousand word. Say better than pillows Guys i wanna. I wanna finish up this This section with With this question it's a. It's an annual big question as the lineup of muhammed saleh saudi-omani and diego georgia and is muhammad sava. Money on bobby amina. Which would you be mobile. Faithful of facing lewis. A shock mach. George b. I'm still still still the festival. Three troy didn't look good. I just wanted to everyone's talking about. Bobby's no look passes now in nova goes it so like are still love me. Well bobby who. Bobby me goes. Plus them all right. Listeners we are. We are wrapping up part two so get very excited at the prospect of city liverpool this weekend. Two teams ominously approaching full on despite key injuries. Different ends for both teams. Actually think the middle of the park where this game's going to be decided. I'm not quite sure which midfield liverpool failed to the minute sabinas been injured case. Opponents can back from injury. So might be the a k to g g henderson lineup number. Twelve don't iago's injury it the minute and likewise with the manchester city they keep chopping and changing so much my head spin it so difficult. Want to call this. I think justice formed as is going to be telling an offensive liverpool to edge. This one but going to concede yet exciting guy bring it on listeners. Batty free Enjoy your couple. We are now going to dog into a choice. A choice matchup for from the weekend sunday slash today slash. The eight of november se versus liverpool. As exciting as they come really buffing can would probably have to accept that city arena. We apply scars on policy while. Wanna look at it. Because yeah i champions league level i think they hit some full and uncertainly fire on tourists that food role gweru governor jay z stroll with some success. But are they gonna come into contact now with With a lipoprotein that pulls against atlanta was superb and an attacking flair often has been missing Wh what's your thoughts on the match. For where where you saw it. Were we thinking sit. You're gonna bring on the table as far as the opposition's concerned. All i can say little i think the form on nothing liverpool gonna going to win it a to know to be honest. I think the fire on the sec scored the go up top. We up there again. Because i know has with buck during the week. Whether they'll they'll stick with torres just bring hazardous home for the late in the second half to see if they can grub grumpy gov i think it might be too late by that point of of god. We've never sat in after the mid mid week demolition of announcer as well. I think the form that they're showing the plays that they go Admittedly defense is Defenses weakened but is it really that the question is president. Joe gomez iran is going to be very important plants lupul especially after his criticism right the game. He's turning around hugely yes. Yeah and who's the forgive able seen a massive amount of for racist may who's the young mother the back as well resilient yeah. He's spent last season in national league. Something remember where the kid minister. Harry is playing extremely low level football other. No it's pretty impressive that he's even in the starting lineup kerryon mo and to be a testament to clock that he's willing to bring someone in this really not the top level experience needed and and going to plan this game on market is fucking and so is that both fucking training the minute so is whether there were with a massive is going to be fit enough to get over him but to be fat. Let's say williamson. He's been doing a job recently and he's doing that job well but a little too much city. I mean it's gonna ask big questions of a relatively inexperienced backline as essentially liverpool but a little stroman fourth for the city of still fanciful news. Themselves and i'm gonna disagree with year loud. I'm gonna massive sweeping just quickly before moving on a young east. Take on it. But i'll just want to just highlight everything A little bit quicker on on on formed like man city. The form side might say you've got that they're actually hitting better form statistically thereby similar by teams similar in basically haven't wins and draws lost in a long time but live put massively struggled against the last two legal positions sheffield in west palm like not been cruzi to in fact. I'd say that in the league we've struggled to convince Quite a lot now just a might be the big the big change in that. We've talked enough about the but But manchester city bar a guero being dropped out ofo strength like and i think it's fair to say that actually aquarius he's in transition and grab. Jcc's will fit I think this is a full strength. Team are going out. And be in a free wall on Marseilles three no olympia casino. So they haven't great luxury grey cup. Fulham any guys Man city a a really gonna want. This really really gonna want i. They're gonna push that. Young lad reese williams to the absolute limit. I don't think we'll get exposed. That's my i think sadly we're not actually went off who strength and and the form similar. I think it's going to be on saturday. I don't think we're going to take it. Interestingly they have a terrible record the oven last time he was twenty first of november. Two thousand fifteen Galilee absolutely true scores were mangala. Ango cotinine bobby. Sergio guerrero under moscow. Martin's go no way it all comes back. It all comes back montesinos. Yeah i didn't mean to talk about. That's not on the agenda. What would you recommend that. So you're saying hussy safer this. Yeah do i yeah. I think that. We've got the minute concede and i and i would like to. We went play. Highline like we did against villa or anything like we're gonna be. Yeah i just. I think it's going to work. I think that. I think they'd go quite lot any attack inside the minute. And they re they're gonna shake our our defensive spine at the back is gonna be really hard george three won't say not livable. George use the. Who's the the other side of phillips phillips is it not not phillips yeah who was outstandingly get the other day He just an extremely confident header of the ball. Is he great. Man of the match brought cargoes completely. Biased buddy carragher. Like i'm gonna get. I'm to give it to the lineup for the all you erica. Can you give it to the young header at the back. But yeah i think they start with start with not phillips and gomez arrow stuff. And i didn't think. I didn't pay phillips over reese williams because reese williams so young. It's almost feels like too much and i think that not phillips is. He's not very mobile app tonight. I kind of dreading it. If it was online that you went out and completed a successful season He will is boating. The kadhamy Graduate is dad actually played against liverpool in many many moons ago. He's dad was a relatively well known footy players. He comes from good bolton stock. And he's been he's been with proof. Well i mean he's right. It's like he's he's highly rated. I mean a lot you know. He's professional at our level but Doubt my ability. i remember coming in against to lhasa. And it's just it's back. He's turning gets turned. And i think you'll get ton inside out by it. That's why i think Young gomez with styling again in the new get kicked england schools. Now the city the season they were even in the premier league. They're like the the real madrid of the primarily really four in a moment one news. One os flattering to deceive you. Think can that probably like you know kind of living off the past the you don't see any progression with them. In my opinion just i'll just see liverpool. Steamrolling them to be honest. Like i said you know a couple of one nil in the last five games got got destroyed by lester proves that they can't deal with pacing back especially wide and then you know they drew leads. Leads really challenge them and baron. These newly promoted. What was elite school. Sartorial thrill yeah it was it. Wasn't it you know you're telling me that liverpool's from three ridiculously joe mobile fast and and dynamic is is a school one goal against. I don't know. I just. I'm worried about headstrong. In particular position at the moment is strong enough. No one's no one's poking. I like if someone why. No one is battering around those those setbacks and there was done it yet to islam. Try try to the day on. Tony didn't stop for west. Didn't work allah is pants. And or i don't think he's sages with western. I will be. It would have been a genuinely. Yeah antonio the plate. Nothing anthony with the best really good questions of yet. Yeah i do a lot. I'm and maybe that's that's the question. Barron laws there in lonzo. Maybe with city do the have a good enough player in of the moment to really really ask the question of how young you kinda right seems a little bit concerned me to say we're going to go to school. Go given our by the less result to that was that was an interesting yet or it might be. We might squeeze another. But i think I think what will go for those boys. And i think he might get results. You win the michio. I think you will as well. Because i don't see the brilliance of kevin deploy now is is a constant in nineteen and he will ask questions of anyone. Plays any tony. But i'm not convinced that the mix i'm not convinced of the message is the same question. We've asked about packed whether not message. They delivers the storms kind of west. In on maybe not. Maybe it'll be. George said. But i think that still i would love to think call walker as impressive as he is offering this ways. Space to be explored around club woke up exudes moving every very quick and they can be mendy can be a more defensive could cover good one is a wonderful player is not. He is past his peak or really to think his participate. I think p-toms were tolman. Yeah combatant preseason. And he's been on the source very well at that moment. Awful not chance you all. He's highway since then. No man that guy's class come on. Alright gunderman i'm with you. I'm not saying he's not. He still good the level of what can the waugh's is not the level which which falls regularly each. It just isn't he doesn't put a clean every week. So on say does doesn't consistent level that the days are pretty fill phone. We'll have a very good game. I think that that roe is is that position. If you look at the four now The the type of plays that causing havoc with live performances recently. It's as the number ten pair. Cnn and them and passing move and can't seem to can't seem to show that back four very well the tool tipping out so make sense but neither can robbery city. Oh don't get me wrong. don't get me wrong. there's a law live. Putu look look probably lipstadt. But i just think if you're talking about a week aside you know. I'm going to start like cities forms great and is pretty much head on that I don't. I think that you know still massive mountain. The tanker city like massive. These guys are still there in champions little while ago are any of the off nothing. They're gonna yeah fair enough. I'm gonna throw this out there. It's a little bit less zero. But i think one of the missing pieces to peps. Current midfield would be replaced in votary calvin phillips as a shout. That'd be lovely net just to see that guy go to that level. Okay nice well any any juice. You join a prediction the prediction of sunday. Would you reckon young while she proper midnight he's had eleven on online going kit lying free no liverpool market tune in for who'll under the guise free people maybe more four one. I'm going full wonderful. Yeah i'm going to stick with them now. Getting three to city Yeah they say right. Republican squeezing avoid impo. This enjoy it. We hope you enjoy. We also enjoyed tonight which was bonfire night. it's not been disruptive it's been explosive in. Hey there was a. I'm going to see my wife. Top for now can call it gotta asteroid yet nice young as a pleasure going get any path. Thank he pleasure. Joyful joyful steph mark going going strike worried dog going. I joke on lobster. Say strength tomorrow. Norbert ever i just go and do something out of trouble. Lovely j you love us. I'm just gonna get the. Yeah i'm gonna put my sitting put much gave up on and look out the window. Nice corral tag top pickle right as usual listeners. thanks very much. get in touch before we go. 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But this is the this is something that I sometimes do where I have a tweet that. I believe I understand that you guys are not gonna understand is a tweet that it's about smarts. It is why don't show it to you. Because it's like one of these ones. That's like sorry. I can try to read it. Okay. It's somebody Michael Kelly at MCA of a and it's like a split screen image on the left is Natalie Portman and the like, it's like grandpa Meam font. You know, where it's like impact font with white letters with a black outline rain palm me Mpho Foncier that like people's like old relatives us when they're like passing around stuff about like killary, and like also Trump, you know, what I mean like it's like your most it's like meow cat mean. It's like, yeah. They can has cheeseburger fun. Yeah. So anyway doesn't matter to fund by the way, it's I can has cheeseburger in his law cats. Okay. So on the left side on this much, discussed font. It's Natalie Portman, and it says NBA superstars Phil now offer max on tracks like contracts without the C max on tracks and other side is I think Jonathan Safran four the author and then on his forehead it says the Knicks. How could you identify Jonathan Safran four by site? I dunno a lifespan occasionally reading books. That's way, more embarrassing. He came to my high school, not knowing what LOL cats are. So and it has Eighty-eight re tweets and six hundred forty six and I have no idea what this is about. Hours goldman. Yeah. I'm clueless on this one has asked me ask me, Alex Bloomberg. Do you hear stand? What this tweet tweet that you do. To us. So that we won't understand. Sports sports, sports, guys. Okay. So what how do we do this? So here's what's gonna happen ready. Yeah. So this tweet actually encompasses two different worlds, and we're going to and the one world that is a professional sports specifically, the NBA, and I'm going to handle that part. We're going to get to that later. I'm very excited about that. Right before we get there. We have to take a tour through this other world, and that is the exotic world of New York. Literary publishing. Okay. And for that. I have a special expert who's going to come in and help us reply producer. Jessica young nice. I just go. Hey, guys. Hey, Jessica, thank you for joining us course. So so Jessica, I told these guys you are going to handle the first part of this tweet. Right. So we we just kick us off here. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Is he has. No, I I used to work in book publishing, right? Yes. I actually worked at this one publisher that had because there are few I guess literary blogs that kind of gossip about the industry and one of those blogs was at this publishing company. I was working at and so we just loved to talk about Jonathan Safran four why before that as someone who's never read Jonathan Safran four book who is who is he you never verba. I know that he wrote a book called everything is eliminated in. That's it. Oh my God. I'm so excited to bring you guys through this. Okay. In two thousand and two he came out with this book called everything is eliminated. Yeah. And he came to my high school he came to your high school, and which okay? By the way, this book was his undergraduate senior thesis at Princeton. This was one of the first times, right? Like realized that there were going to be a lot of people in the world who are like a lot smarter and more accomplished than me 'cause he was like this guy that came to our high school he'd already written this book, and he was like as old as people who I knew and everybody's like, oh the genius book. And then he very quickly becomes this guy. That's just the opin- me of successful young writer. Right. He marries, Nicole Krauss who's also a very commercially successful critically successful writer, and then he starts to just get like seven figure advances on all of his novels. That's insane. It's insane. And this is kind of a side note. But there's something I feel like this is probably common and other industries too. But there's something in book publishing where everyone's like obsessed with real estate, they'll like post blog posts of people's houses, if it's like on St. easier or something, and I say what? Persons houses were. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. I I still remember all of the rooms of his house. Can you talk or something? Creepy. I mean, it's crazy his his house, which you got in two thousand five very soon after everything is illuminated. Has the biggest private garden in all of Brownstone, Brooklyn brain. How big is that? Do you wanna see it? Oh, it's not that big. I feel like a very short. Average garden. That. Oh, that is crazy. Yeah. It looks like it looks like the grounds that someone would like stride around when they were convalescing like it looks like, you know, like olden days when people had to go to towards. Yeah. So he has like a good amount of fans. But there were also a lot of people that. Started to resent him because he was like the successful person who everything's gonna come really easily to and he had a house with a garden. Yes. And I mean, I think it's also just like he became the emblem of everything that people resent about the literary industry, which is that it's skewed towards like a certain kind of person. Right. These people from Brooklyn named Jonathan. Yeah. Yeah. Like a white dude that lives in Brooklyn that went to Princeton. Yeah. And I mean, there was so much hate towards Jonathan Safran four at this point that there was even a term for it. It was shunned voter enjoying the pain of Johnson's iron for. Yes. Any kind of downfall. He wore just cheering on the sidelines. So Sean voor really hit. It's peak around two thousand nine he publishes this book called eating animals. It's I on fiction book. I remember this book. I remember not reading this book because it was like why are you should be a vegetarian with all the like horrible pitas. She's like I do not need this book in my head. Yes. That's exactly. Right. I read it when I was in high school, dude, you become a vegetarian. Okay. You, you know. You know, what eating habits, you know? Like, I. You could be a vegetarian now. Because mostly what you eat is like canned Hindy. Okay. Well breakfast handy. If the only meat you eat is like gummy hotdogs trying to like a huge shame session now. No, this is just what it's like to be behind the microbus, it sucks. It feel you feel naked all the time. Because people are always pointing out your weird flaws. Welcome. I would just call. These attributes. No, I called. Well, I read it when I was probably in ninth grade. I think and I. The only thing that I feel like it feels similar to is like when I discovered what hell was you know, when I was a kid, and I was like I need to I need to be a Christian, and we're all going to be a bad person. Moral Piane shame. Totally exactly. And so I think that there were people that were like the these are really good moral arguments. But then there was this other group of people that was like this totally overlooks. You know class and money and how expensive it is to be a vegetarian or vegan. Also, just like the successful person who success comes easily to is now writing a book telling everybody what to do would be not super terrible way that one could feel about it. Right. So there are people that don't let them done this hour. But there is one person that does love his work in. That is not only Portman the report better. Oh, yeah. This is like one of my favorite horrible things that has happened in the world. I don't know anything about this. She also seems like in a very different way on a very different level. I think a lot of things people feel that Johnson term forward. They feel about Natalie Portman like she's just very undeniably talented person. Who's also like I just had a lot of success and had a lot of privilege like she went to Harvard. She like, she does all these different things, and she doesn't really well like someone who from outside. It seems like things have always come easily to and like either you really like them or that drives you crazy, right? Like, they're from the same fancy island in the sky. Yes. Yes. Analogy Portman is really into his new book eating animals. I mean, she even writes this article in the Huffington Post where she says I used to be a vegetarian, but because of this book now vegan the announced John is our Portman that there's gonna be a documentary made out of eating animals. And that Natalie Portman would be the producer of this. Yeah. And so soon after there's this gossip site that publishes this rumor that Natalie Portman in John this hour and four have just been writing emails back and forth in apparently over time. They were just getting closer and closer. And then John this happened four, according to this gossip site went home told his wife that he was in love with a very intellectual movie star broke up his marriage without telling Ali, I. Then went in wrote an Email to Natalie Portman confessing his love to which she said, no, I don't like that. Because she was married and is still married to the dancer Benjamin millipedes. I don't like that you like to do that. You have to assume that like the feelings are reciprocal, right? Was like he did assume the feelings for reciprocal. I think he was maybe too confident. Yes. Yes. And his love assessments like hubris, Cuba. I believe is the word. Yes. But here's the thing. I mean, nobody's nobody's published. These emails, right? I haven't seen these emails. I don't know anyone in the book industry, the housing's emails, but there is a lot of talk. Then it's, you know, everything's kind of quiet for a while. And this is my favorite. This is. This is a very intense part. So those two dozen fourteen right, okay. In two thousand sixteen Jonah's sovereign fo were Anneli Portman are both working on new projects. Start new project. Yeah. Separate new projects. And so they do this promotional piece in t- magazine and New York Times magazine in New York Times magazine in which they are going to write new emails Jonathan Safran four in Allie Portman to each other, you know, talking about their outlooks on the world and the projects that they're working on weird. Yeah. And I mean, it's just so painful to read is a two people trying to impress each other with their intellects. Yes. And everyone else. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I mean to me out. Do you want to just read a section? Sure. Okay. Okay. So this is John is Evan four. It's almost six o'clock in the morning. The boys are still asleep. I can hear the Guinea pig starring, but that might be the residue of nightmare. People often refer to aloneness in writer's block as the two great challenges of being a novelist. In fact, the hardest part is having to care for. Guinea pigs. Boy. I wanna crawl under the desk. I was like I feel like I wrote letters like this like sixth grade, but you had the good sense to polish. We'll know was offering. Email right. That even what is like you didn't hear the scratches a quill. No, I disagree. I totally would have written that in an Email to try and impress someone. But I definitely would have been like if someone if the New York Times came was like, hey, I want to publish this hard pass on this artist. Like a fucking Email. Here's another one. Here's Nali Boardman an ex boyfriend of mine used to call me Moscow. Because he said I was always looking out the window, sadly like Moscow like some Russian novel or check off play. I have that longing. Yearning? It's better over there tendency, what are you doing what that makes me think that maybe whatever I don't want to speculate on the lives of other people. But does it sound like the had an emotional affair then? He just overrun it. Just like stay away from the whole country right Moscow. Moggy? No. There is a part where she kind of nowhere writes about how millipedes her husband makes her laugh a lot, right? The way bring your boyfriend had a party even into someone who's starting with. Yeah. Someone flirting I get that like their rich and famous people and like their failures are find a lot of it. I feel bad like I feel bad for him. I feel bad for her. It's just like. Oh, man. Yeah. That's tough. It all feels like second hand embarrassment when you're reading it. Yeah. Right. Like, you guys got bad advice. Yeah. Yes. It's not somebody close to you to just be like don't do this do not do this. This is the worst. Also, I feel like imported whoever the New York Times one of the things that you know, how to do as a newspaper is like they'll have things that are it'll be about like a rich person's wedding. And the text of it is like look how granted is. But they know that this is just for everyone to read and hate, and they will completely set up somebody like this. I feel like this is just that like. Like the personality. This must have known that like this is this is like the near times version of a reality show. Yeah. Produce them into into like doing something that would sit down and talk about. Oh, man. The residue of your nightmares. It's getting to be green pig. There you go. Okay. So wait. So just like slightly going back to the tweet. I feel like what I now understand like like the thing that John's tariff our Natalie Portman represents it's just like the relationship between somebody like they want somebody. They foolishly think that it's going to happen. Like crazy like active hubris, and it's not gonna happen. I don't understand how they're released a basketball in any way. Right. What does that have to do with the New York Knicks? Yes. All right. Well that okay. I've now got explain that to you. After the break. This episode is brought to you by squarespace squarespace. Makes it easy to buy domains and designed beautiful websites, portfolios, blogs and more without ever touching line code house. Goldman he made a say called gopher gripes where listeners can go into but their gripes. What have you got? Let's get to this is the erg ripe. What do you mean the one true gripe? Okay, things which aren't as good as they should be. Oh, yeah. This is everything. Everything. Wow. That's like from the Picasso of griping. 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With this that he forgot to put the contracts, and then the Jonathan Safran four side of of the of the picture is the Knicks. All right. Let's start simple. Do you know who the Knicks are I feel like you can presuppose a certain lack of knowledge, but this is just insulting. Do you know who the Knicks are the New York City based basketball team? Yes, exactly. Blue and orange fund. Yes. Kind of a purply blue. So Knicks fans, they are the saddest fans, I think in the entire NBA because the Knicks last won a championship in nineteen Seventy-three and have not won since then which is weird because are New York sports. And you think they're just have a bunch of money and by all the players. Yes. So which is crazy, and it doesn't make any sense because the Madison Square Garden is one of those stories his stadiums. It's like the limelight. Like everybody wants to play in the garden. It's like there is there is no reason that the Knicks should not be on the same level as the Lakers is there is there like one thing that has happened. There is one thing that has happened. So what is the one thing? Do you know the family that owns the Knicks the dolans? I know something really wonderful about the dance. I'm afraid to say, so this is the level of Knicks fan. There are Knicks fans in this building who like Cedric if you're out there. I know this is painful part of its don't come at. All right, man. What are you afraid to set like, but he's he it's it's so painful like being an expanded so painful that he's just going to like, I know this is going to be like an hour and a half long conversation where he's like. Yes. Everything you said is true. But like we're fixing it we're going to dress it we're going to do it. It's not like it's art like you can tell a sports team is bad because they don't win. I'm telling you. All right. So this so the goal and family they are the Stanley. They originally came from Ohio Cleveland and the senior Dolan moves his family out to New York City to pursue his dreams. And he starts small cable company that grows to become cable vision, you know, an enormous cable company and the family becomes super powerful and wealthy and they go on to purchase sort of famous land. Mark New York City institutions and real estate such as Madison Square Garden they purchased the the Rangers the hockey team. They purchase the Knicks. And then in nineteen ninety-five, the senior Dolan, Charles hands the business over to his son James James is sort of developing this reputation as sort of like this, blustery brash guy. His hobby is like racing yachts like the full on New York, rich person sort of master universe. Yes. Exactly. So for just as an example. Let me just give you a question. If you were the wealthy sign of this big family that had moved to New York to pursue the scrappy ambition of starting this cable company that had been acquired for billions of dollars and you had your own passion project. This is what I know about. What would that passion project? The I know about this. This is the one thing I know about sports or James is like one of my favorite things in the world. JD in the straight shooter JD stranger. Good. It's so good, Alex. Yeah. Every once in a while a huge band. We'll come to New York City, like Fleetwood, MAC sure or the eagles and when they get to New York and only New York on their tour. This weird thing will happen, which is that the opening band. Oh my God. Are you serious that his band place with them go J D straight shooters, which is James Dolan? And then just like a bunch of session musicians who are like young and him who's this like old CEO guy playing like horrible like him trying to do boomer rock at Madison Square Garden. Right. It's yeah. You're right about everything except when minor correction JD in the streets, shot Chaney and the straight shown answered your question. If I had a passion project, he would be to make a pinball museum. So much less offensive. So do you guys want to watch his most recent music video? Yes. Okay. So this is like one of their I can't believe this. In the Mon. Get the news. Say it's a montage of people looking at their phones and. Newspaper press. How to fees? What to do? I know you can be. All this eight will never read. God. So it's like, it's all these like all these images, these split screens of like Trumpers, Hillary versus Hillary Occupy Wall street versus like magnate, and it's this sort of like boomer plea for I gotta heal. Our a billion. What else say about the song? You just played is like the musician ships, actually good. And then he starts singing. And it's just sounds like garbage. Well, why do you think that might be? I don't know he didn't auto tune enough. I guess but he hired. Musician. Musicians out there. They get to play massive Square Garden, but they have to play karaoke tracks for mister burns, man. So okay. So that is James Dolan and in one thousand nine hundred nine he is the person put in charge of running the New York. Knicks K singer, songwriter basketball, owner exactly and I'll and I'll just say this. Like before nineteen ninety nine the Knicks had been in the playoffs twelve straight seasons. The previous twelve straight seasons after James takes over in nineteen ninety nine. It's a train wreck losing streak of epoch magnitude. So what kinds of things does? He do. All right. So so so many things but just give you a couple of examples like one. So he wanted to hire this big time NBA star Carmelo Anthony Wright, and so he traded all the good players on the Knicks in order to bring on Carmelo Anthony. And then Carmelo Anthony is like by himself like this one lone superstar on this team of like really lousy players and the team sucks and Carmelo Anthony sort of mired in mediocrity for the better part of a decade. He's like the one star on a team that can't win. He's like literally someone to pass someone else. Someone else has to be pretty good. Otherwise, you can do one person alone. Can't do it. Another thing Dolan. Did he hired his friend? Isaiah Thomas to coach the team and say time has been this big star as a player. But then he turns out he's not a really good coach. And they just go in this huge. Tended losing streak, and then Isaiah Thomas like has all these personal issues, and he gets involved in like a sexual harassment scammed. I saw headlines about that. Yes. It was just like all these horrible headlines and all these horrible things happened with their Thomas, and like Dolan would just for the longest time refused to get rid of him just stuff like that. So this is the guy who's in charge of of the Knicks and. And we're about to get to the to the part where the meat of this beat of this thing this parliament, John Safran four and have been living this with like decades now decades of obscurity like futility, and like this poor management, and we come now to June twenty fifteen okay. The NBA draft. Okay. So the next because they're bad. The one good thing about being bad. Is that you get to get a high draft pick. We this from Tressler process. Exactly. Yeah. And so so they have a pretty high draft pick. They're going number four. And by this point, everybody's prime like Dylan's going to screw it up because he always screws it up. Okay. So in two thousand fifteen this is draft pick in the two thousand fifteen NBA draft, the New York Knicks. Christa? Jingu? Everyone's doing. Yeah. Watch look at look at the bizzare governor faces just doing every physical expression of exasperation a little boy. This is a little boy. Yeah. Trying. Visit compilation of like reactions to this. One guy lapsed in his apartment. Do. Okay. So the random seven foot three dude that nobody's ever heard of Kristaps Porzingis. And so like, and they're just like, oh my God Dolan's done it again. Yeah. All right. So like people are really really mad. But then something mazing happens, which is Kristaps presenting is turns out to be amazing. Really? Yes. He turns out to be this like one of these like new kind of players he seven three which is a really tall. I know. Yeah. And probably. I always say what I have to explain it. But you know, about like, those people aren't even seven. You know about the average height tournaments, right? Anyway, he's seven three, but he can like move like a gazelle, and he just becomes this amazing player. Here's a here's a highlight reel. Let me just want to watch some greatest some prisoners greatest hits. Yes. All right here. We go. I wonder if I'm gonna be able to tell that he's good key to find zingers has got a bit ski on a couple of fakes crossover that ten. He looks like a grownup playing in a kids Lee. Yeah. Like, he's just so much larger and faster than everybody. Basket piece tonight and more chance. He becomes this like. Icon. He's like this idol. Yeah. For Knicks fans. Right. Yeah. And then. And then on January thirty first of this year. They traded why? Why? I'm not a sports fan. But I feel really mad for them. That is exactly what every single Knicks fan in existence. I feel you Alex is going to become sports engines because one more place to give you. I know because you love that righteous resentment that you were feeling right now. But I know so we don't really know what what happened. There was a lot of talk at the time that that presents us was really unhappy possibly because of how badly mismanaged the Knicks were and how bad they were playing. And you know, he didn't want to end up in the sort of Carmelo Anthony situation where he's just like the one lone good player on the struggling team, whatever we don't know for sure. But whatever it was from the point of view of the person who made this Natalie Portman Jonathan Safran for tweet once again, the Knicks have squandered their chance to be actually good now. I know what my parents felt like every time. I was like, hey, guys, I enrolled in community college, and this this this semester together, I'm going to study. Right. I know. So what the Knicks management is saying is that like this is okay. Because now. Porzingis's contract. We don't have to pay presents us all this money. So we have now we have cap space. We have room because the whole thing with the NBA is like in an effort to make it to the rich teams. Don't just win their salary happily. You can only spend so much money in your players. Yeah. So what Knicks management is saying, basically? It's like, it's okay. We've gotten rid of porzingas, so we can spend his salary what we would have been spending on his side. We can spend that on other really good players. But then people are looking that. And being like, well, you're not going to be able to attract those players because everybody's gonna feel like Brasilia's. Nobody's going to want to come and play for you, James Dolan. Have we reached? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. This is a real sad. One. That's what makes me feel really sad. I know it's just like all about like hope and disappointment and striving and looking like a jackass. Yeah. She goes back. Okay. So this is a tweet by Michael Kaley at MC underscore of underscore, a and it is a picture of Natalie Portman and Jonathan Safran four and underneath Natalie Portman. It says NBA superstars though, no offer max on tracks. The meant to say max contracts and on Jonathan Safran four hours for head. It says the Knicks. And so in the world of this tweet Natalie Portman is all of the incredible professional basketball players that the Knicks supposedly are going to get now that they've traded away Porzingis. But but since they are Jonathan Safran four they are dramatically overestimating their ability to attract good players, right? And also, I guess the Knicks have like traded porzingas his way before they've actually found the players. They're gonna get. So it's like one of my. Yeah. So they think is gonna work out. They also could just like NFL in their sad apartment. Exactly. The remnants of nightmare. All right. Thanks. Thank you. Reply was hosted by PJ vote and me Alex, Goldman were produced by Schutte Pinna Menarini FIA Benon domino, Marquette, Anna, fully, Jessica young and Emmanuel jokey or shows edited by Tim Howard, remixed by requ on fact, checking by Michelle Harris, our intern is Christina Ayla to Joseph especial. Thanks this week to Nabeel Chilin pot and Cedric shine. 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