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"michael hyatt" Discussed on The EntreLeadership Podcast
"When started the Michael? Hyatt Company and I. Don't Know How big your team was. Whenever you I mean it was just. Okay maybe so maybe at that stage, and then maybe you're adding a couple people right as you're growing and I'm sure especially as you start to add people, you have this understanding that I needed to have vision for where we're going and I need to be able to cast future for these people that are now following me not to mention my customers as well who are starting to buy into what we're doing and following our brand, and at the same time you're the face the company you're the content creator of the company I assume you're the producer of the company. Company like everything you're creating is coming through you and that's a direct parallel to so many business owners that we see today that it's like they're on this treadmill of working in the business, and then you tell them what you got to have a vision there like will win. Am I supposed to do back like when so? How did you solve that problem? At that stage of Business Michael will one of the things. I started doing about twenty years ago. That is akin to what I'm talking about. Why say you've got to have a vision script for your business is? Is, I created a life plan. It wasn't something that came up with on my own. I had an executive coach Daniel Harvey. Who worked with me on that process? And we ended up writing a book on that process called living forward about how to read that book. It's outstanding. He was really really powerful to walk to that plan. I did with him internship. Thank you I knew that things certainly went much better with my life when I had a written life plan, because then all of a sudden you know I could envision the marriage I wanted and the relationship with. With my kids and my health, and all that kind of stuff so different when it comes to your business so when I started the Michael, hike said I've got to have a vision because I didn't have a vision that I company. I learned about vision when I started running Thomas. Nelson publishers and we had a vision script there so then when I started my own business I got it I said I gotta figure this out I. Mean I know I'm seeing through a glass darkly right now. I'm not going to get a perfect, but really it's been about the. Of My vision at Michael. Heightened company has really been the evolution of possibility. I have a big idea of what's possible today than I did ten years ago when I started the company, but I think that's that's where people growing their vision. It's not that their vision needs to change, but their sense of what's possible changes. I've had so many times. Have I remember when I first started? I thought man if we could never get to a million dollars in revenue, and then we hit that I thought we could ever get to ten million dollars in revenue where we got to that. You know in each step. My vision expands so. So people can expect that that's so good, though because if your vision doesn't expand, then that's where the company plateaued Holy, and we run into a lot of small business owners that they would literally identify as what we call. Accidental CEOS ride like they started a company probably because they couldn't work for anyone else. They were unemployable and they start this company, and then suddenly they're looking behind him and there's like people working for them, and they have a payroll. They're supposed to have values like what the heck and they sit there and say. I literally started this to pay the bills and put food on the table for my family. And they look up and they're now running a five million dollar organization, and it's like well. You did that. Congratulations and you've got twenty people working for you to or something like that, and so they feel this need to expand their perspective, but a lot of times. They struggle to do that because they're stuck in the place of where they were. So, how'd you start to do exactly what you're talking about? Where you expand and broaden your perspective of it's possible, adequate and things you gotta do is give yourself permission dream again. This is where it starts and I think that illness since our educational system is kind of an exercise in shutting down our dream, you ask the average five year old I'm not unique in in this perspective, but average five year old. What do you want to be when you grow up? You know I, would it be an astronaut on a fireman, or you know I mean some big thing I want play professional baseball, or whatever and pretty much ring that out of them by the time they graduate from high school, you know. Know! We get the dreams out of where they're no longer dreaming and the essence, the essence of entrepreneurial ship is you solve problems at a profit and you got a dream about solving bigger better problems. You know if I could solve this. What would that mean for my business? What would that mean for the future? My employees because all of your people have dreams. They have dreams for their personal. If you've got to continue to grow your business, you have I'll say this. You have a moral obligation to grow your business. The status quo is not acceptable. Now I'm saying that as a as an entrepreneur who is committed to serving other people. My people want to grow. They have dreams for their families. It's going to require them. Getting raises getting promotions an organization that's continuing to grow, plus when my organization grows that forces me to be different leader that I was twelve months ago, our business grew sixty percent this last year I'm different. CEO Today than I was last year, and I better be different CEO next year than the one I am today. AERA choirs my growth, but that starts with vision, and I can't imagine you talk about the way you're serving the team in expanding your vision, but. But then also the customers I mean. There are people that know about Michael Hyatt today. That didn't know about in three years ago. Because y'all are committed to growing. That's right, yeah. I think it begins with that. You know the commission growth requires a vision. I think that like so many other things. We just have to set aside time to do it. You know taking time to be the visionary. You said a phrase. It's just a moment ago. Working in the business versus working on the business with the whole process of envisioning, the future is a working on the business kind of thing you know I think. The average entrepreneur starts at business with this idea of freedom. You know freedom and money I want to be free, and I want to make money I'm tired of working for the man right. The problem is they. Wake up to this as Michael. Gerber says entrepreneurial nightmare five years later. That's right, and now they have the worst most onerous most demanding boss. They've ever had any grease him every morning in the mirror. You know it's damn. So how do we recapture that that freedom well? I think it's again. We got to visualize something different in the future three to five years if you'RE IN A. A business where you've kind of lost control, we feel overworked underappreciated where your margins may have even shrunk over the last few years, and you're thinking to yourself there just days. WanNa visualized being solar, poor again going back and getting a job, and not all having all this to worry about the differences. If you get a vision, what did your life look like three to five years from now if you had a business that served your life and not a life that served your business that starts the vision imagining.
"michael hyatt" Discussed on The EntreLeadership Podcast
"I was in the coaching conversation with the business owner, the other day and we were walking through some of the powerful questions that every business leader should be answering questions one was. Why do you exist as a business? And they had the answer that question question to? What you stand for as a business, and they were able to answer that question as well and then the third question I asked him was wear. Is Your Business going and I'll never forget? They looked at me and they said I don't know. From the Ramsey network is the entree viewership podcast where we help business leaders themselves, their teams, and their profits I'm your host Alex Judd and the answer to that question of where are we going is found in your organization's vision and today we talked to someone who's both a practitioner and teacher on this topic of clarifying and executing on a crystal clear vision today. We're talking with Michael Hyatt and Michael. Hyatt has had a lot of success in the arena of vision and growth with the company that is currently running. It's a lesson that he actually learned from a failure when he tried to start his first publishing house at thirty one years old. We started back in nineteen, eighty six, and we had the good fortune of publishing oral hershiser's biography. Now he was the themed Pitcher of the dodgers, and they had just won the world series. He was a household name. Everybody'd heard of him. The book rocketed to the top of the New York Times bestseller list and it was there for seven months. And so it brought in a ton of cash a lot of notoriety and thinks that happens. Is you become successful as you start attracting a lot of opportunities, but if you're not careful, opportunities or distraction, show up on your doorstep, and you can't tell the difference between opportunities and distractions so distractions masquerades opportunities, so it happened us, so we decided you know we were bulletproof. In everything we touched turned to gold, so we thought we'll publish. Reference Books will publish. Gift books will publish children's books. We've been published a large Bible project. The problem was it fractured our focus it. Our resources and that business went bust. And, the reason it happened was because we didn't have a vision that we're starting with. It would be akin to deciding. You're going to add an addition onto your house. And as long as the Home Depot truck shows up and keeps unloading lumber and sheet rock, and you just keep building adding on, and that's exactly what we did. There was no blueprint. There was no plan and we failed for lack of vision, which is exactly interestingly what the book of proverbs says that without vision the people perish. That is so fascinating and I think it's one of those things that. That in leadership, courses and classes and books. We read about it all the time. You have to have a vision. If you're going to be leader, but so often, it seems like they dismissed. Thing that no one knows what it actually is, so can you? Can you set the record straight right now? When you say you need to have a vision as a leader? What are you actually talking about? Not. Talking about is a vision statement. You know we've been told that we need to have this short. Brief almo, slogan or motto that we could put on a coffee Mug or that. We had put on a bumper sticker. Can't. That's not robust enough so when I talk about vision. I'm talking about a vision script, and specifically I mean at this way. It's a written document. That's three to five pages in length. Okay, so it's going to be more robust and pithy thing but something. That's really thoughtful. The describes a future state. It outlines a clear, inspiring, practical and attractive picture of your organization's, future. Here's it's fun. It describes reality as you see it. Three to five years from now. And it's written in the present tense as though it's already happened. Now when you begin to do that, will you begin to visualize something like that? Right in the present tense? That's the first process of creating anything. And I basically learned this process the big idea from Stephen, Covey who said begin with the end in mind. And so to start a business or even a department, that's a part of a large organization without a vision. Is kind of a fool's errand. Leadership leadership presupposes that you know where you're going. You're going somewhere. You know where you're going. But if you don't know where you're going, right, how can you lead anybody there? Yeah. It's gotTa start. With vision. You jumped into this four terms already clear, inspiring, practical and attractive. I want us to jump into kind of the tactical of what those words look like. You're just a bit, but I love the fact that you say that this is robust, so it's not a pithy statement is catching that vision. Is that something that comes from? Is it a skill that can be developed, is it? A wiring is a gifting as A. A personality trait because sometimes we call people visionary, and it just makes it seem like okay well. They're visionary, which means if I'm not a visionary than I can't do right. That's a lot of people. Give up before they start because they think of somebody like Steve Jobs. That's right, you know. He could stand up and not only hold the stage, but I mean he. Had you totally into that reality distortion zone. Actually vision you know. His wife famously said at his memorial service that Steve Not only saw reality clearly, but he saw what reality lacked. And why it was imperative to bridge that gap between what he saw, and what could be so every other cell manufacturer saw that the market was saturated that every cell phone that could possibly be invented had been invented besieged, said Nope I got a different idea, and it was the iphone. As we know it today, and it changed everything right. I mean that's like. The most profitable certainly I don't know if it's the largest android has a incredible saturation, but I kind of think everybody, even who has an android sort of aspires to an iphone. Just, wish they. But he solved the such a big way, but you don't have to be. Steve Jobs I love this story when when Steve Jobs passed. I can remember because I'm a total MAC nerd, but everybody was saying the tech press. The stock market was saying well. That's the end of Apple. Maybe they'll coast like Microsoft for awhile because they're so big. They have so much cash, but Steve's gone. The company's vision left the building with him. Well there's this guy named Tim Cook. You know who by most accounts if you looked at him or hurting, speaking thinking, you know, he's not as charismatic. He's not as visionary in the sense that we typically mean a you know somebody. That's really you know, articulate and all this. But the truth is companies prospered more under Him had vision, but a different kind of vision, so he had a vision for optimizing the supply chain for being able to produce these crazy wacky things that steve jobs came up with. He was able to find the suppliers orchestrate the supply chain and get it at a price that would allow them to mark it up and making credible margins, so he's every bit. The visionary anybody can be a visionary. All you have to do is no the recipe. Okay so when you say no the recipe. What does that mean like? How do we start to build that skill set? How do we start to think in terms of the future of where we're going y'all give an example so like I've always thought of myself. I've had this story. My whole life that that I'm not very handy. Not very good with my hands, and if I need something electrical done around the House call attrition, or if I need something built I call contractor, so I just had him doing this upgrade to my studio because I've been hibernate in there during the pandemic, and so I decided. There's a chandelier that needs to be moved out of my studio. Normal led light..
How to Be a Vision-Driven Leader with Michael Hyatt
"I was in the coaching conversation with the business owner, the other day and we were walking through some of the powerful questions that every business leader should be answering questions one was. Why do you exist as a business? And they had the answer that question question to? What you stand for as a business, and they were able to answer that question as well and then the third question I asked him was wear. Is Your Business going and I'll never forget? They looked at me and they said I don't know. From the Ramsey network is the entree viewership podcast where we help business leaders themselves, their teams, and their profits I'm your host Alex Judd and the answer to that question of where are we going is found in your organization's vision and today we talked to someone who's both a practitioner and teacher on this topic of clarifying and executing on a crystal clear vision today. We're talking with Michael Hyatt and Michael. Hyatt has had a lot of success in the arena of vision and growth with the company that is currently running. It's a lesson that he actually learned from a failure when he tried to start his first publishing house at thirty one years old. We started back in nineteen, eighty six, and we had the good fortune of publishing oral hershiser's biography. Now he was the themed Pitcher of the dodgers, and they had just won the world series. He was a household name. Everybody'd heard of him. The book rocketed to the top of the New York Times bestseller list and it was there for seven months. And so it brought in a ton of cash a lot of notoriety and thinks that happens. Is you become successful as you start attracting a lot of opportunities, but if you're not careful, opportunities or distraction, show up on your doorstep, and you can't tell the difference between opportunities and distractions so distractions masquerades opportunities, so it happened us, so we decided you know we were bulletproof. In everything we touched turned to gold, so we thought we'll publish. Reference Books will publish. Gift books will publish children's books. We've been published a large Bible project. The problem was it fractured our focus it. Our resources and that business went bust. And, the reason it happened was because we didn't have a vision that we're starting with. It would be akin to deciding. You're going to add an addition onto your house. And as long as the Home Depot truck shows up and keeps unloading lumber and sheet rock, and you just keep building adding on, and that's exactly what we did. There was no blueprint. There was no plan and we failed for lack of vision, which is exactly interestingly what the book of proverbs says that without vision the people perish. That is so fascinating and I think it's one of those things that. That in leadership, courses and classes and books. We read about it all the time. You have to have a vision. If you're going to be leader, but so often, it seems like they dismissed. Thing that no one knows what it actually is, so can you? Can you set the record straight right now? When you say you need to have a vision as a leader? What are you actually talking about? Not. Talking about is a vision statement. You know we've been told that we need to have this short. Brief almo, slogan or motto that we could put on a coffee Mug or that. We had put on a bumper sticker. Can't. That's not robust enough so when I talk about vision. I'm talking about a vision script, and specifically I mean at this way. It's a written document. That's three to five pages in length. Okay, so it's going to be more robust and pithy thing but something. That's really thoughtful. The describes a future state. It outlines a clear, inspiring, practical and attractive picture of your organization's, future. Here's it's fun. It describes reality as you see it. Three to five years from now. And it's written in the present tense as though it's already happened. Now when you begin to do that, will you begin to visualize something like that? Right in the present tense? That's the first process of creating anything. And I basically learned this process the big idea from Stephen, Covey who said begin with the end in mind. And so to start a business or even a department, that's a part of a large organization without a vision. Is kind of a fool's errand. Leadership leadership presupposes that you know where you're going. You're going somewhere. You know where you're going. But if you don't know where you're going, right, how can you lead anybody there? Yeah. It's gotTa start. With vision. You jumped into this four terms already clear, inspiring, practical and attractive. I want us to jump into kind of the tactical of what those words look like. You're just a bit, but I love the fact that you say that this is robust, so it's not a pithy statement is catching that vision. Is that something that comes from? Is it a skill that can be developed, is it? A wiring is a gifting as A. A personality trait because sometimes we call people visionary, and it just makes it seem like okay well. They're visionary, which means if I'm not a visionary than I can't do right. That's a lot of people. Give up before they start because they think of somebody like Steve Jobs. That's right, you know. He could stand up and not only hold the stage, but I mean he. Had you totally into that reality distortion zone. Actually vision you know. His wife famously said at his memorial service that Steve Not only saw reality clearly, but he saw what reality lacked. And why it was imperative to bridge that gap between what he saw, and what could be so every other cell manufacturer saw that the market was saturated that every cell phone that could possibly be invented had been invented besieged, said Nope I got a different idea, and it was the iphone. As we know it today,
"michael hyatt" Discussed on Craig Groeschel Leadership Podcast
"Imagine you're working for his team and what he just came out and he said here's our vision to to come out better on the other side. So and he's clearly articulated and he did it passionately and one of the things that you said is we want to keep our whole team intact. Which that shows me if I'm on your team you're not just thinking about your profit. You're thinking about me as a team member and so everything you just said there was vision. That CREATES EMOTIONAL. By and alignment from your team and again go back and listen to that one minute clip. What he just said. That's how you cast vision. So it's it's clear. It's concise connects with the heart. It brings buying show. It's he he's pointing in a direction. And that's why if you're sitting here thinking I'd like to work for him is because he's got a clear vision and is is not just pie in the sky to increase revenue by whatever. Kind of stupid. But this is how we want to make an impact. And here's the strategy that we're going to get there. I want to have a little bit of fun with you. And then I'm GonNa let you add whatever you want to at the end because I know I want you to make whatever contribution. I'm not yet drawing out of you but kind of lightning round. That's just real quick questions. Is there anything in your leadership that you have changed? You disagree with yourself in years past and you have a new mindset. Wow I think that you know. I used to think particularly my younger years. The being a leader was all about having the answers. And the thing that I. It's really about having the right questions. That's good would you say Is there a recent mistake? You've made as a leader that you're willing to share. We'll I tend to have selective memory so so I tend to not Remember the mistakes that I've made but I definitely macomb and thankfully my team will bring them up me when I when they happen by. Can't nothing comes to mind right away. These are leadership pet peeve. Whenever someone does this you hear this something that makes you crazy. Yeah I think leaders that have never really lead but social media influencers. But they've never had a team but they start spouting off. Leadership advice makes me nuts laughing. What's your what's the something that surprised you about this kind of covid season that you actually like while. I'm an introvert. So man this. I'm I'm really digging being at home and you know kind of cocooning with my wife. I've been married forty two years. We're still in love and man I I just. I'm really enjoying that. That's part of it that I kind of hope doesn't go away But I know it needs to you know for our economy to get back up and running but that surprise me. Yep So twenty. Years ago I had no idea blank would be so much fun I twenty years ago. I had no idea that being married for this long. I mean I couldn't envision it forty two years but yeah I couldn't imagine it was fun. Yeah I love that Just what you represent as a leader that you've got your personal faith your positive you've got a great marriage lead an organization you inspire others your Your leadership podcast called lead to win. It is yeah lead to win is is the name of it that will also put a link to your podcast. You just been adding value both as a friend to me. And then you're content for leaders around the world and so I thank you for that if If people want to find out more about you tell us. What are the best ways we can connect with you? Well first of all. Michael Hyatt Dot Com H. Y. Is where you can find all things related to me cleaning the PODCAST and the coaching programs. And all that. But then we've got a special Craig for the book. Division driven leader and it's vision driven leader dot com forward slash. Craig and we've got some bonuses. There are people by the book anywhere. It doesn't matter where they by Barnes and Noble Amazon wherever come back with their receipt. And we've got over two hundred dollars worth of free bonuses there including the thing I'm most excited about is a five part video series of me. Coaching leaders on how to create their vision script and again. That's all free just for buying the book. Excellent will thank you for your generosity. We'll we'll put the link in the show notes as well. Is there anything that I didn't ask about that? You're thinking oh my gosh. I'd love to share this. No I would say that at the end of the day the thing that will define your leadership is your vision. You know it's more important than you know. And one of the things at our mutual friend. Andy Stanley says all the time is vision leaks and he's exactly right and I think that if you're tired of talking about vision in the midst of this I had an executive coach back during the great recession. Who advised me? She said L. Listen you're going into a very difficult time. And she said you're people are GONNA be starved for vision. They won't articulate it like that but they won't have meaning unless you connect the dots to something in the future. That's more important than all the stuff. They're going through right now so after about six months of that. I came back to her and I said I lean. I am tired of talking about the vision. That's all I'm talking about and I'm tired of hearing myself talk. And she said awesome. She said you're half done now. Keep doing it. And she was exactly right. You cannot speak division too much especially right now because the only thing that keeps it alive is your words uses beacon into existence. And that's where we're at right now. I've heard it said vision leaks and values drift and When you think you when you think you've talked about the vision enough multiply it by ten and you're still probably not even Hitting the target and so. Your leadership is fantastic. And I'm grateful for your friendship your contribution. The book is called Division driven leader. It is available. Now we'll put links to everything that we talked about in the show knows for those of you. If you're with us we do release a new podcast on the first Thursday of each month if our schedule holds in the next month's episode I'm going to be sharing a teaching. I did from the global leadership. Summit I'm honored to help serve in. The title is called Champion. That means I kind of in the spokesperson and if all goes well. We're still hoping to have the summit in early. August. You can find out information that'll be a link in this podcast on the global leadership summit happens in hundreds and hundreds of sites all over the world to my knowledge. It is the biggest Leadership Conference and because I'm with them extra because I believe in. It is my favorite leadership conference that takes place all year in the entire world. Michael Thank you for your contribution a follow. Michael Hyatt on Social Media. Subscribe to his podcast. Watch him on Youtube anywhere. 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"michael hyatt" Discussed on Craig Groeschel Leadership Podcast
"We'll I wrote about this in a book. I did with Daniel Harvey calling called living forward. And it's all about creating that life plan and we do provide a template in their kind of everything that I do. Craig is based on what Dr Steven Covey said to begin with the end in mind and sort of fast forward your life you know twenty five years or thirty years or fifty years and say how do I wanNA finish. You know what people say when it's all said and done about the kind of life that I lived in part of what I do inside of that life planning template inside the book. Living forward is to talk about getting clear again. Sort of mini vision scripts for each of the major domains of your life so spiritually. We're going to be at the end of the game you know. What kind of relationship do I want with God and in my spiritual life and and kind of the practicality of living that out but for my marriage you know what do I look for my health? What for my business for my friendships. What will went for my finances. So I've had a life plan now for twenty years gets revised every year. But it gets looked at you know about once a month and a deep dive on at once a quarter but it really keeps me on track so that again so that. I'm moving toward something if you don't design Your Life. You're going to drift into the future and nobody ever drifted to a destination. They would have chosen. You only drift to bad places. So if you don't design you're just GONNA react. You're going to drift. See Gotta get clear on all those areas. This is what leaders do particularly for their their companies. But it starts with self leadership. If you can't lead yourself you don't have the right to lead anybody else. The so powerful Michael in fact To our listeners will include a link to the life plan template in the leader Guide. If you're not getting the leader guide you can just go to live dot shirts slash leadership podcast and You can subscribe to get are the emails that come out when we release a new podcast and we want to put that in front of people I I love. Love your thinking and your your life just a success around everything you've done is a reflection of your values. I I would love you to speak Michael if you don't mind. I'm really excited. We've got a lot of younger leaders that are part of our community or those who are newer in their leadership. Can you you know from from your book? The vision driven leader. Which I'm sure they're gonna read but can you kind of speak to them. Let's say You know a twenty something year old or someone who's maybe been in their role for six months or so talk to us about how we go about specifically communicating vision. Is it a speech? Is that an email is it a. What do we do to to make it to get it from our heads into the hearts of people? Okay well let me get really nitty gritty. GotTa understand what it is. I here's what had vision is. It's Not a vision statement. You know a short clever pithy slogan thing that you could put on a coffee Mug slap on a shirt even if you could do that and most of us are totally intimidated by the prospect of having to do that. Even if you could do that it wouldn't be that helpful because it's not robust enough when I talk about a vision script. I'm talking about three to five page document. That's written so it's more robust. It's a document that outlines a clear inspiring practical and attractive picture the future. It's three to five years in the future. It's reality as you see then and it's written in the present tense and then it's arranged four sections first of all you talk about the future of your team because the team has everything you know if you're gonNA reach this future this bigger better future. It's going to require a team. It's going to require being thoughtful about the culture. You're trying to build the team mates you're trying to attract the ones that you want to retain so it starts with team. The news into the product and even churches have product but business have product nonprofits have product. But what is the thing that we produce that solves our customers problems? Then there's the marketing and sales. You know how we're going to do outreach. We'RE GOING TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE. And then the impact. What are the measurable objective impacts that we see three to five years from now so in my view Craig were? That's gotTa start is with the leader. This can't be delegated. It can't be outsourced are the best thing you can do is schedule some time half a day better yet a full day. Get by yourself but don't feel like you've gotta get it one hundred percent. You're not Moses. You're not coming down from the mountain. You're just trying to write down on paper what you see three to five years from now as a series of bullets if you can get it sixty to seventy percent. They're perfect because then what you do is now you meet with your leadership team. Whatever your inner circle looks like the next level below you and you say the conversation goes something like this. This kind of how you sell it to say. Hey guys been doing a lot of thinking about the future. I don't have it all figured out yet. But there's some things I see that I want to run by you and this is important language but I need you to help me. Fill in the blanks. This is wet cement. There's probably some things I've missed probably some things that aren't quite right. But I need your input in that conversation. You're beginning to enroll them and create ownership. Once you get there then an organization and the coach the coaching clients that I have. We teach cascading communication so when she got it aligned with that inner circle then the next level down maybe some broader leadership team same thing. It's a little bit more. Maybe ninety percent there but same thing. You're inviting input. So then when you stand up in front of the entire group whatever your total team looks like you've got the weight of all of your leadership behind everybody's aligned and you stand up and this is what I've done over and over and coach my clients to do read that vision statement or that vision script to them but with enthusiasm if you're not excited about it if you haven't bought into it you can't sell it so it's not a one and done thing you've got to develop a cadence of communication around the vision. It's gotta be an operational document that guides your decision making the determines who you hire who gets let go what you do in terms of execution from day today so so so powerful every leader ends up somewhere but few leaders somewhere on purpose and and you're going to want to internalize bringer team in it. What I love you to do if you wouldn't mind. Michael is change hats for just a moment. Let's let's go from Your Mentor. Hat on or a teacher hat would love you to do is put on your encourage your father's hat your your pastors hat and speak to the leader. Who Says I've kind of lost my vision? I don't even know what what's important right. Now can you give us not just the practical give us the encouragement to to get back up when we feel discouraged and to lead somewhere well for first of all. I've totally been there and I've I've gone through a business failure back in the nineties. That was terrible and felt like my vision came crumbling down around my feet in the book I have an entire chapter talking about the Vision Arc. That no matter where you are in your life or your organization life. It's never too late to get up and come up with a vision and I think one of the things that marks the truly great leaders of the world is that they're resilient and resilient mean that you have some kind of you know magical or supernatural power. It just means that you refuse to not get up and the truth is you can't fail if you don't quit so to get yourself up and say and again this isn't something. We have to be particularly charismatic or clairvoyant or have a special gift like Steve. Jobs or Martin Luther King Junior. You just have to put yourself submit to a process which is what I outline the book. Get off by yourself and begin to dream again what I would say to people that have lost. That dream is just to give you permission to dream. I really believe that's so critically important. It is the single most important aspect of any leaders. Leadership is finding that destination and reconnecting with it with it. And asking yourself the question. Why does this matter what's at stake here if we don't achieve this vision what's lost if we do achieve it? What's gained and to realize that your role batters more than you know. They've been so many leaders throughout history. And just think of the Bible whether it was Moses Jeremiah or whomever that said you know I'm I'm not old enough for you know I'm too old. I'm not a good speech or whatever it is people. Have all these excuses but none of those are really important? The important thing is. Can You articulate the destination? Can you get clear on that? And could you go through the process and just figure out what you want? What do you want for the future if you can get back in touch with that? That's the way I think. God primarily directs us and it's one of the ways that even business leaders can find. They're confined their way forward. I can imagine this is going to speak to so many people speaking to me right now. I don't know about you Michael but in kind of like quarter number one of this whole thing. My vision was okay. How do we survive? And and yeah. That's that's that's not that's not we want to be our vision for a long time so for those of you. That might be right there that you have to keep the boat floating obviously but come up above the problems in and ask yourself. How can we lead this into the future? And and if you do feel like this is kind of. You've lost a lot one thing. I'd like to do Michael's I like to think of things in seasons an all an ex athlete and so you don't win every season and this might be a season where the numbers aren't what we want them to be. The revenue might not be there the ministry impact. Whatever it is. And that's okay. There's going to be a new season and so it's you're not categorically a failure of success. We have winning seasons. We have losing seasons and in a in a more challenging season we envisioned for a different strategy or or redefined the win and so I I know your words encourage people. You look like. You're gonNA say somethin' yet. No I'm just like I was going to say what are the things that we did it? As organization that was super powerful is we decided to take a stand for how we wanted to come out the other into this crisis so instead of just kind of drifting through it. We said you know. Let's have vision plus commitment. What are we willing to own? And how do we want to end up now? This is just our organization. Everybody's stand and I'm using that as a as a term as stand looks different for different organizations but for us we said we wanna come through this stronger than only went into it with more capabilities than when we went into. We also want to get through it with our original team intact now in other words going to drift and just kind of see what happens. No we're going to make the pivots do the things that are necessary to retain the team. Now we're GONNA make sure that We do the pruning we need to. Because I before you know. Crisis can accelerate organizational development. There's probably some decisions that you've been putting off the now. Given the current circumstances you kind of got the perfect excuse. I think actually you talked about this on a previous podcast. But I think that's exactly right. There's some decisions you can make. You can actually get through this stronger but I think to get in touch with that will give you that. Calm confident leadership that will really speak to your team and reassure your own heart that you're moving in the right direction. So I hope everybody listing can just kind of feel the brilliance of what Michael? Just said you know..
"michael hyatt" Discussed on Craig Groeschel Leadership Podcast
"This is the Craig Rachelle leadership podcast episode of the Russell Leadership Podcast. We are crazy past about building leaders because we know that everyone wins when the leader gets better. If you're new with us we drop new teaching on the first Thursday of every month so I would love to encourage you to hit subscribe. Do it now wherever you listen. Also massive. Thank you to those of you who have written reviews. If you have not write a review rate the content it helps create more exposure. And I'm really really thankful for those of you in our community. That are sharing on social media. Thank you for getting the word out inviting others to be apart. If you haven't yet signed up to get the leader guide a hope you'll do so. It's got content. You you can cover with your team also helpful additional information and links to everything we talked to in our interviews and our teaching. Just go to lifelock dot shirt slash leadership podcast and we'll send you the leader guide each time. We have a new episode. My guest today is brilliant. His name is Michael Hyatt. He was the president and CEO of Thomas Nelson Publishing. He also has his own company where he mentors leaders. He has a fantastic Poe. Podcast on leadership called lead to win. He has a New York Times bestselling author. His new book is as good as all of them. We're talking about vision. The book is called the Vision. Driven leader is my honor now to welcome. Michael Hyatt's Hey Michael. It's great to have one of my favorite leaders in the entire world on the congressional leadership. Just how are you? I'm doing great Craig. Great to be with you heard good. Well congratulations on your new book. Fantastic vision driven leader. How's how's the books are always helpful? House us new and doing really great and that was a little bit concerned given all the crisis. It's been going on at everything but I thought man if there's ever a time people need vision you know. It's in the midst of a time when it's really hard to hold onto the future and believe in the future so you have to really well and hit the Wall Street journalist Last week is we're recording this. So that's pretty exciting. Congratulations yet your books. Like every time. There's a rumor that was coming out my team kind of gets ecstatic in stars humming around the office with anticipation. You've made such a big difference. The the life plan template Especially as is something that's helps so many of our team leader so thank you for your contribution absolutely well. Thank you for that so when this podcast comes out your book will have been out for a little while. We'LL BE IN THE MIDDLE TO LATE. May of this recording. We're still laying low. How how is? How is the this season been for you personally? You know. It's been challenging? You know fortunately this is not my first Rodeo. Been through a number of crises as I know you have and so I learned so much and everyone of them that I went through and I. I hope I went through the great recession. I thought to myself man. I hope I don't have to use this stuff again. But of course that was one of those experiences where you know. I didn't want to go through it again. But Man I wouldn't trade. What I learned and the truth is what people need right now. I think for leaders is calm confident leadership but I can tell just with my business. Coaching clients how I show up for them is really important how they show up for their teams is really important. It's more about their demeanor that I think you know that they have wisdom which is important or being clever or have something important to say but just to show up and be calm and keep. Moving forward is critical. Well let's talk a little bit more about that especially in light of your new book on on vision. I think there's to me when I'm watching. My there seems to be almost two extremes. One extreme is the person that almost is like ignoring everything. Like it's GonNa be great and your best ahead of you and this is no problem. We got this and then there's others that feel like they're they're falling apart in panicking the the skies failing and we're never going to have life again. How would you say Michael when when you as a leader you want to be realistic? But yet even while you're acknowledging the hardship that we're facing globally. How do you balance? What's present real difficult and bring vision in the middle of it? What is that look like for? Great Leader Yeah. I think it looks like holding onto the stockdale paradox and this is something I got from. Jim Collins talked about in a recent podcast as well. But you know that the twin truths that are taught that you've got to be willing to confront the most brutal facts of your reality and that's not pessimism. That's just realism. I think as leaders we have to be sober-minded with regard to that but at the same time we can never lose sight that we're ultimately going prevail and that's where vision comes in and I think sometimes leaders don't differentiate between vision and strategy so I think vision as the destination that's where we're taking our organization three to five years from now maybe even longer term for some institutions but I don't think that's really changed however the strategy how we get there that's going to change based on conditions on the ground we can't be married to our our strategy but we've got to stay connected to the vision. I think so helpful to because eating a lot of times as leaders we do we kind of obsess about the problems that are screaming the loudest and we forget to come up above it and look around the horizon and recognize right now especially and I again when this comes out in three weeks I don the move is going to be different than this but right now as of this moment people like you said they. They need to see us. They need to feel our confidence. Not that not that. We have things figured out that we will figure things out that we're calm and that our our leaders are on top of this. I'm curious as you think about leading and you know everybody doesn't what's going to happen. Wins ECONOMY BEGINNING COMEBACK? Is it GonNa come back you know? Will we be meeting again? Publicly or conferences dead as churches. Dad There's so many questions. How would you say you're going to cast vision into a future? That's really uncertain. What would that look like for you? My perspective is at this. The future of the near term is uncertain. Maybe even for the next year is going. To be uncertain. But I think we're GONNA eventually get to the new normal. Maybe it's going to be eighty five percent of what it was. I don't think we're going to roll back to what we were before but I think if we start asking ourselves the question what does this crisis make possible because any crisis you don't WanNa waste first of all but it provides that opportunity to kind of accelerate your progress towards your vision if your vision is three to five years out doesn't really matter. There's some things you can do to pivot right now. Some strategies that can adopt but ultimately still be moving forward towards the same destination so our organization for example. One of the things we said is. Let's just accept the fact that this is the new normal you know. We require traveling for our coaching clients. That they come to Nashville. Once a quarter we said well what if not we could create a virtual experience that is maybe you know kind of as good as what we did before or maybe as good as we can do. But what if we said? Hey what if we could make this even better so much so that our clients would never WANNA go back to the way it was before that opens up all kinds of possibilities. That everybody starts thinking creatively about what this moment gives us. Because I don't think we're here by accident. I think that anytime. We're in the midst of this. It opens up the opportunity. That you maybe. There's a design in this. That could lead to a better result or a better outcome for organizations. We'd have never gotten to if times were just the same as as they've always been interesting. You're saying that because Again Co context is to win. We're saying this matters because the mood changes daily certainly weekly. I would consider us in like quarter number two of this a month ago. We were all kind of in panic trying to figure out. How do we operate our businesses are ministries when the doors are closed or at least a lot of close and so that's kind of season one season two right now? I'm starting to see what can be. Wins moving forward and so instead of looking forward thinking it's an either or meaning either as like it is now or is like it used to be now. I'm looking at it as a both end. What Chan we take from this season and merge it into what we once had and you know now for the first time. I'm coming out with a little bit of the optimism. It can be even better than than it was before me. Talk to me about that. So when when you're visualizing you like if there's anybody who's going to survive this and take their organization to a new and better place you're going to do it. You're that you're that type of leader. Tell me about how you take it from concept to application your strategy master. What goes through your mind when you're looking at. What is a potential opportunity? And then you're going to bring it into break achievable steps to help move your organization in the right direction. Will the first question I'm asking is. Does this fit into our long-term vision because the great thing about having written vision? I called a vision script. Not a vision statement for reasons we can get into if you want to but when you have a vision script all of a sudden it becomes a filter on the opportunities because the more successful you become. You Know Distraction. Show up at your doorstep masquerading as opportunities right and there's no way to discern that you gotta say that again that's too good you gotta set again. What was the line okay? So so when you become successful opportunities start showing up on your doorstep but the problem is distraction show up at your doorstep masquerading as opportunities. Soga and the only way to tell the difference is with the clarity around the vision of where you're going you find out what's outside of the scope of your vision. What's inside the scope of your vision? So it gives you a way to say no it also gives you a way to focus your organization get alignment and dry the execution. Everybody loves to talk about execution and organizations but execution if it's going to be meaningful presumes alignment otherwise. There's a lot of sideways energy people overwhelmed. They're doing a lot of busy work. But it's not driving toward anything. So if you have the right. Execution that presupposes alignment but that presupposes that you're aligned around something. I would submit that you got to be aligned around the destination or the vision of where it is you're going and that's what vision script provides is clarity and alignment and then ultimately that execution. Okay that's pure gold. I WanNa talk to our audience right now for just a moment until those of you that are listening at one point five speed like I do. Take it off. One point five speed. This is a one point. Oh podcast you gotta slow this down and you gotTa Soak it in. I would recommend you go back and you listen to that one minute again and again and again because that that's that's pure gold miner. God I'd love it if you could take an and drive that down a little bit deeper into how we lead is individuals your Your Life Plan template is is something that is is so helpful Help me understand what we do in our personal leadership and our families in our own lives financially and such that That we can take the vision of. Here's where I'd like to be A. Maybe I want to be debt free or I WANNA be a healthier twenty pounds lighter than I am right now or I want you know. I WanNa stay Mary rather than than Sleeping in separate rooms. How do we create that life? Plan Template And take what is vision and make it achievable..
"michael hyatt" Discussed on Dose of Leadership
"Videos vision for your marketing your sales and your vision for the impact that you want to have so if you can put that together. That's where I always start with my coaching clients row. Start because that's going to drive everything else. So team product. What was the third one? Fourth was impact team. Product Marketing Marketing. And then the impact does marketing and sales but then impact. Yeah I like the impact piece. I think would if I'm sitting here trying to go through these exercises are there any limitations of how I mean Selena silly question how big I can dream that makes us. I mean like yeah. It's so there's definitely not not you know where I where I encourage my clients to end for our aim for is in the discomfort zone. Yeah you don't WanNa vision this comfortable and you know if it's it's comfortable if you don't really feel any fair if you don't have any doubt if you know exactly how to accomplish it that's vision that's in the comfort zone and all the goal achievement research says the you have less of a chance at actually achieving if it's there if you put in your discomfort zone where you feel a little bit of fear some uncertainty some doubt. You don't know how to get there. You're not quite sure if he can pull it off. That's exactly where you want it and give the example in the book vision driven leader. I give the example of John. F. Kennedy standing before a joint session of Congress and saying that division was to put a man on the moon by the end of that decade and people thought he was crazy revenue. Asa thought he was nuts because there was no technology to make that happen but by guys they did it and they did it before the end of the decade unfortunately. Jfk wasn't alive to see it happen about nine years actually about six years after he said that. Yeah I mean there's so much so much shrew about how the the the audacious of the boldness of it and if it if it generates that fear and uncertainty in that doubt. I think that's the barometer that tells you you're on the right path. I'm a firm believer in that right. I think I think if you're trying to make something you know where everything is as smooth as possible. You're not you're not pushing it right. It's true and I think one big question that a lot of times people put on the table long before they should is well. How are we going to accomplish that? That how question is important. It's really the question of strategy strategies. You get from here to their vision. Is that there. It's the destination but strategies. The how but you can't talk about strategy to your clear vision because depending on where you there's a lot of different strategies to get there like Every fall I take my entire family to the beach in the panhandle of Florida and I live in Nashville Tennessee in the strategy is typically that we drive south on. I sixty five till we get just south of Birmingham and then we go southeast to Rosemary Beach in Florida. But sometimes there's road construction. Sometimes there's weather sometimes. There may be a big wreck that forces us to employ different strategy conditions on the ground will always determine your strategy. But if you ask that question too soon in a meeting when you're talking about vision it'll do rail the entire you'll go down visa. Yeah you're right. Go down a path well and people say. Why don't see how we could do that? So that shouldn't be our vision. Of course you can't see how are you going to do? It shouldn't be able to see how you do it. I contend that when you get in the leadership space it's it's it's to me leadership. I know him on the path of leadership. If I'm so now I don't know how I'm GonNa get it done. I just know I'm going to get it done right. That's why I think you're kind of living in that. That faith arena. You're kind of living in all the great leaders I've worked and when I've accomplished great things in my teams and even my personal life. I don't know how it's going to get there. I just knew somehow I was going to do it right. It doesn't mean that I wasn't afraid or wracked with doubt and there were times. When you're like wow this is a gut check maybe maybe. I'm not may don't belong here. Maybe this is impossible right. Those that's normal for that to happen right. It is normal for that to happen and I think that you really pointing out what I would consider the difference between a goal in a stand taken. A stand is a goal plus commitment. You know don't know how it's going to happen but you know come hell or high water. I'M GONNA make it happen to the best of my ability and that's one of the things. I'm I'm sure you picked up for the Marines. My Dad is a retired marine so I was pleased to hear you say that. But you know there's just this unbelievable commitment to just make it happen. Yeah well and that's why I get so fascinated with all these stories both in business and the life and in history All the greatness that's been accomplished by every everyday average folks. I think a lot of times we fall down this this kind of myth or we we believe this myth that it's the great person that makes the the greatness. I think it's the great situation with the common person inside of it. Who Kind of embraces this? What we're talking about here this the vision if you will the Vision. I think the vision gives the fuel a lot of times and it has historically in the past were you know. It's kind of like the Marines say uncommon. Valor was an uncommon virtue. Right so it's like the the the the common man if you will embrace this larger than life impossible mission and that gives the fuel and the energy to kind of take it across the goal line. I duNno I dunno if that made me totally. No I think you're right. I think that's why even in the midst of this is. We're recording this where you know in the middle of this pandemic and You know I've had people say to me. I mean my book launched in the middle of the pandemic right and I. I thought Gosh. Could we delay the book because I don't want to be published book in the middle of all of retail? Being shut down the more I thought about it the more I thought no vision is never been more important. You don't i. I tell the story of the military story but I've told this story many times over the last several weeks admiral James Stockdale who was unfortunately navy. But you captain when he was flying a bombing run in an airplane over north Vietnam and he was shot down. It was taken prisoner for seven years and so for those years. He was in solitary confinement. Two years totally immobile in leg irons fifteen times tortured to within an inch of his life but he survived and we got out years later Jim Collins for his book degrade interviewed him and he said he said. I'm just fascinated by this. He said who are the guys that didn't get out? They said. Oh that's easy. They were the optimus. What do you mean by that? And he said they were the guys that got into camp and they said Oh. We'll be out by Thanksgiving and then Thanksgiving come and go. And they went out and then Christmas would come and go and there wouldn't be they will be out by eastern Easter. Would come and go. He said they died of a broken heart. Yeah he said there were. The ones made it out. He said there's an came to be known as the stockdale paradox. But Jim Collins gave language to this but but Admiral Stockdale said this he said you gotta do two things simultaneously. You've got to be willing to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality. That's job number one for leader number two. You must never lose faith the you'll ultimately prevail and get through this and that's the Vision Component Ryan. I think that anytime like this. We've got to constantly as leaders be talking about the vision because digital leaks is Andy. Stanley says vision leaks and people are like walking around with empty vision. Buckets and our job as a leader is to constantly be filling up like a backup with vision people perish. I love that. I love that story and I didn't have the please to meet Admiral Stockdale when I was in. I went to the survival school and he came at of course. Everybody knows his story from the Marine Corps side but to meet him in person and hear him and he talked about that paradox. Right in I'm an eye and it is amazing. It's like what do you mean he goes that false motivation. He said that he said in an The false motivation drives me crazy. And that's kind of what that is it's K. And I'll never forget that was in the Marine Corps and and we were as at the infantry school and it was raining it was cold and it was miserable. And we're waiting and I'm sitting there. I wasn't complaining but I acknowledge the fact that this really Kinda stunk. And there was one guy walking back and forth like it and this is what it's all about who are motivating day in the in the rain. You know everything else and everyone says well you just shut up. You know it's like you. Would you get more motivation from the Guy? Just the acknowledgement. Like you said like man. This really sucks sitting there in this cold. You know rain but you know what we're going to get through you know what I mean. We're together and was it. You know and and it's so simple when you think of it in that way but yeah but I I can't imagine stockdale like you said it's almost like it's stoicism. Almost right it's like it is what it is. It's not good or bad. It just is and then try and in putting in the faith component. There's this too shall pass right. Yup and often saying several times over the last few weeks to people especially because I have a big business. Coaching practice about four hundred clients in our program. And I've been saying to them. Look here's the thing you gotta remember. You have a one hundred percent success rate in getting through. The most difficult days shouldn't be here as what you've been totally successful hundred percent getting through the most difficult days and is true for everybody listening to us today. Richard Yeah you know. It's it is a fine line and I sit there and I I'm a pilot at American American Airlines. And you see these these forum boards at were on and we'll see the gamut and you just see these people throwing out doom and gloom and then you see other people throwing out kind of the exact opposite. Oh this'll be over before you know it right and I'm kind of sitting there looking at both. I'm like nobody knows but I do know that we will be successful if we choose to be. I'm always fascinated by of you. And I can experience the same tragic event. We kind of are experiencing the same tragic event. Some people will founder. Some people will sink them forever. Some people will flourish. And I'm always amazed about what does that you and I survived a plane crash and we were sitting next to other. You know you may take that experience rocket that whole experience in turn into this book and Inspiration. I could turn to drugs and alcohol and never you recover. Found that right. I'm just amazed by that. Why in the road in the choice that people make and I think the it's understand. The power is in that choice right. It's totally net choice. I I think another great Viktor Frankl's man's search for meaning you. He talks about that. You know the first part of that book. If you've read it is the story of him in a Nazi concentration camp yet and the thing that that he contends is that even in the midst of that when you're brutally oppressed women a you have no external freedom. You still have the freedom of Your Spirit. Ya know cannot be conquered in human freedom and the human will is an amazing thing. Yeah and even you talking back to Stockdale knows those. Pow's stories and like what through them in some of those was just a little victories of the day. Of like you know when they learn how to communicate with each other with you know broom sweeps in their little code that they have you know and they tell jokes about you know and they were telling you broom so it was just like little victories like that you know and and it was made the difference between someone succeeding or didn't realize until this week. I was reading a story about him that basically they were running a covert CIA operation inside of that. Yeah W king they were. They were giving real live intelligence to the CIA so sure that had to give everybody a sense of meaning that was in that camp. They were doing something really important for the war effort. Yeah it was amazing how they through the Red Cross and everything else they would send in and I saw some of the things that they were using they. They would send a tube of crest toothpaste. And they would have a homing device in there and they would. They were communicating to the outside. It was amazing. It's just amazing. So tell me so. The book that is amazing Kim's out right in the middle of the pandemic what are you. So you've like you said you'd like you know what I made the decision. What have you seen? Have you seen any Surprise benefits out of of releasing it during the pandemic. You know what I mean. There's always opportunities. Have you seen anything? Unique happened because of of the pandemic Anna Release. Of the book. Well I think in the first week of the pandemic everybody's heroes on fire. Nobody was really interested. Everybody same confronted with all the change. Everything changed overnight right. The whole world's changed overnight but as the weeks were on there was more and more interest to book hit. The Wall Street Journal Bestseller List. And so I took that as a good sign. Frankly I kind of given up on that all my books if it a bestseller list Up until this one and I thought well you know. I'M NOT GONNA have keep low expectations during the pandemic. But I really believe in the message of this book and one of the things I had to do and I think this is a good leadership lesson is. I had to ask myself the question. Not A disempowering.
"michael hyatt" Discussed on Smart Passive Income
"You gotta manage that energy. How you show up every day matters what happens when you get a setback like you were talking about. You know launch doesn't go as as well as it should. I mean you know. We experienced that constantly people looking from the outside in say everything you touch turns to golden people probably say the same thing to you pat. That's absolutely not true. We've had a lot of failures a lot of things that didn't work as well as as we had hoped. But the key in terms of maintaining your energy and the key to getting through that successfully is to be able to process failure in a powerful way. And there's a whole series of things I could say on that but failures inevitable failing is optional. So taking that that failure be able to metabolize that and I think it begins. First of all by owning it. What will prolong failure? Well we'll send you when you're in that sort of victim mentality where you're blaming everybody else so my business. I tell the story in the book division driven leader the Front of the book. I started the publishing company in one thousand nine hundred eighty four. After five years an enormous growth we outran our capital and we went broke in fact we didn't have enough assets to declare bankruptcy because there was nothing to distribute everything bid pledged loans but we went broke and at first we wanted to blame the distributor that didn't deliver the sales that they had promised. And in fact we met with a lawyer. And we thought we'RE GONNA file a lawsuit against the distributor and the lawyer said look. I'll do this if you want. It's going to take a retainer by the way do this if you want but I wanna just Kinda give you a preview of what your life's GonNa Look. You're going to spend the next three years in and out of court having to answer questions about every decision you ever made and at the end of it even if you win you're not. GonNa get what you think. And you'RE GONNA end up angry and bitter he said. I want you guys to think about it over the weekend so he did so my partner and I thought about it. We came back and we said you know what the truth is. We got into that relationship with the distributor. Nobody held a gun to our head. It was our fault. We didn't do our due diligence. Once we owned that all of a sudden the power came back to us. We realized we weren't victims. We can begin to change the future. We can begin to change the outcome and we went on both of very successful careers after that. But you got to be able to process that failure you gotta be able to tabulate it so that you can use it to grow at and I've often said about that experience you know it's never one. It's not one that I would ever want to repeat but it's one that I wouldn't trade for any amount of money because that was the beginning of my education is an entrepreneur and that served me so so well through the years you're here. I hope that encourages everybody. Because we all go through failure failures all the time but failing is optional. I really love that. Thank you Michael. I appreciate you coming on and spending time. I know you're busy. Especially THE BOOK LAUNCH COMING UP. But the vision driven leaders the book head on over to vision driven leader DOT COM SLASH SMART. And you can pick up all those goodies there. Mike always a pleasure having on. Thank you so much and I look forward to connecting with you and fishing again with you. All that great stuff Hopefully very soon. Thanks so much chairs. Alright hoping enjoy that interview with Michael Hyatt you can find his book again at vision driven leader dot com slash smart. Go ahead and check it out there and thank you again Michael for coming on always appreciate it and I hope we get to go fishing again very soon for those of you listening using if you WANNA check out the resources and the links mentioned in this episode head on over to smart passing dot com slash session. Four one seven once again smart passive income dot com slash session. Four one seven just want to say I appreciate you all. Thank you for listening in teams. Flynn you're amazing and make sure if you haven't done so already head on over to apple podcast and leave a review for the show if you have the opportunity to do so if you haven't yet subscribe thousand time to do it because then you're also gonna see all the other amazing content that's available for you right now too so team. Flynn thank you so much and as always team flint for the win peace. Thanks for listening to the smart passive income podcast at www dot smart passive income dot Com..
"michael hyatt" Discussed on Smart Passive Income
"First let's get to the music. Welcome to the smart passive income. Podcast where it's all about working hard now so you can sit back and reads the benefits later and now your host. He secretly wishes he could work on a movie at Pixar Pat. Flynn what's up everybody? Welcome to session. Four hundred seventeen of the smart passive income podcast. My Name is Pat. Flynn here to help you. Make more money safe more time and help people to today. Like I said we have a dear dear friend of Mine Michael. We actually went fly fishing together last year. Through Wyoming and Idaho and it was awesome. We talked a lot and I'm excited because I learned about this book coming your way and it is available now Amazon again. That's the vision driven leader here. He is Michael Hyatt from Michael Dot Com. Michael Welcome back to the smart passive income podcast. Thanks for being here again. Things Pat. It's so good to be on again. You know every time you come on you have something amazing to share in this time related to your upcoming book vision. Vision is so important and I think that most entrepreneurs we often dive into something without fully realizing the vision of where we wanna go and we want to get our hands dirty so quickly but why is it a mistake to take action without first thinking about where we wanna go in the vision that we have to use a metaphor. It's almost like jumping in the car with your entire family. And say hey. Let's go on a trip. We're going to add not really sure. But it's GONNA BE FUN. You know you could waste a lot of resources. Spent a lot of time and be very busy the entire time and never get to a destination that's meaningful and so I think that's that's true in an organization to you know there's so much sideways energy so much waste of resources. When we're not clear about the destination I think even you know in productivity which is a space that I've written a lot about knows a particular interest to you pat. You know productivity without a vision. You can end up very busy doing a lot of stuff. That doesn't really matter at the end of the day. And I think that the secret to having more margin your life to have it a business that you run instead of a business that runs you is to have a clear vision. Where you can create alignment and then drive the execution around that vision. Well here's my question around that because I know as entrepreneurs sometimes we don't fully know exactly where we're going in and we often here especially from people like Seth Godin you know just ship right and then kind of ready. Fire aim right. So how's your thoughts about you know finding a vision versus well we have to take action somewhere in a business plan is just kind of a gas. How do we? How do we balance that? And what is truly the methods for for really realizing this vision that you were speaking of. That's a great question. And certainly you're not going to have the kind of clarity at the beginning of the process that you'll develop as you move toward the objective but I still think it's important to take a stab at it just because you can't have absolute clarity doesn't mean that you shouldn't try. You know to have a vision for where you're going is critically important in terms of shaping your activities like. I I tell the story in the book in the Vision Driven Leader where I started the publishing company back in one thousand nine hundred eighty four and we had all kinds of energy we had investors. We had a mission and we were certainly had lots of opportunities but unfortunately because we didn't have a vision. There was no filter to really help determine where we are going to put our resources. We're GONNA put our effort and as a result we were kind of just. Every opportunity became a new thing that we pursued and it was at the end of the day. It was our opportunities. There were undoing because they were all over the map and we were just spread too thin so a vision provides that focus it provides. That clarity directs our actions so we don't squander our resources so that we don't waste our energy so that it's focused and so that it has an outcome that we're pursuing it makes me think of an really bullish on Tesla right now at this time of recording. You know the stock is up like crazy. There's a lot of fun and exciting. News happening in the world of Tesla and it makes me think of their sort of mission and vision which is to accelerate the world's transition to sustainable energy and lot of us have heard of obviously Elon. Musk and his sort of overall plan to change the world and it started with division of just okay. We want sustainable energy but then it started to help him determine okay. Well what might the steps be to make that happen? And of course he started with the roadster a higher level car that he was going to sell for lots of money to a few people that would then Supply the income and resources for the Model S. which came out in two thousand twelve around that time which then made money to then make the more production ready model three which has just recently come out and it's coming in stages but obviously it's always always based on this vision of accelerating the world's transition and it couldn't have happened with the model three at first and so you know we. The hard thing is Alon is just another world but I think that we can all benefit from seeing these things that we want to get into in such a way kind of far into the future. Do we begin determine what our vision is? Do you have any thoughts or questions or exercises that we can do right now to figure this out absolutely. Well I think first of all it's important to define what a vision is and so in the book I define it this way. I say vision is clear inspiring practical and attractive picture of your organization's future in other words. It's something that's a superior state to where you are right now. Typically I recommend to our business. Coaching clients have about five hundred people in our program. Right now business owners that it needs to be about three years from now you know beyond that technology is changing so fast. The for most businesses and there are some exceptions but for most businesses beyond that. It's just a wild guess less than that. And it's not going to be strategic so a written statement Really a script. I call it a statements now sufficient but a script that encompasses for areas. Where you talk about your team your products your marketing and your impact in the world and so it needs to be written and it needs to be written in the present tense but this is not something you know. You'RE GONNA cook up by you. Know going into the mountains and meditating and having some mystical experience this is more like just like when you're trying to draft the blog poster draft anything. You end up with with something that approximates what you WanNa do. But you're going to refine and edited over time but I recommend to people that are trying to formulate a vision to get away for a day and to go through a series of questions. In fact I have these questions in the book. Their vision prompting questions. Because I know how difficult it is for most people to sit down and and stare at empty screen you know it could be quite intimidating so this is almost like not quite but almost like paint by number so I have a series of questions. If you did nothing but answer these questions you would have probably eighty five to ninety percent of your vision script done and is this something you do on your own or do you do it with other members of your team together. I highly recommend that you start doing it alone you know. I've been a part of a process where I worked for a company where the CEO came in and said look our investors are asking me what my vision is. I'm not really a vision. Kinda guy so when appointed committee to figure out the vision and he put me in charge of it. Well it would have been awesome if he'd had a seat at the table or if you've given us some kind of idea for he wanted to go. But this is not something that you delegate. This is something that I think is integral to being a good leader vision or being a leader means that you're leading people somewhere will. Where's the somewhere you know whereas whereas the destination you're taking everybody so I recommend that you get alone. You get very clear you know step into the future stand in the futures at were use your imagination which is a. I think a God given faculty that we have to begin creating the future and describe which you see. Write it down. Write it in the present tense as though it were already happening and then once you get that first draft dinner time to go back to the team and say look. I've been thinking a lot about vision where we're going and this isn't perfect. It needs a lot of work. This is just a draft but in order to take it to the next level. I need your input. That's when you share it and really invite their input. What did I miss? What am I not seeing clearly? You know what what could be improved here Danube. In that in that process you're beginning to create buy in so that it becomes not just your vision but a collective vision but it will also ask to act as a filter for people who just say you know. That's not really what I signed up for. And that's fine. You want people that are aligned around that vision. The right vision will attract the right people and repel the wrong people. How do you differentiate between this vision that we're creating and scripting out for ourselves and just our wish list of things that we hope will happen? I think a lot of entrepreneurs we have ideas of where we wanna go but because it feels more like a wish and almost so far into the future that we don't even know how to get there. It almost feels deflating sometimes when we see this vision or this wishlist we've created and we go. Oh Man I. I don't even know where to begin on this and it. Almost sometimes deflating. I've heard from people. So how how do you create the vision without depleting yourself but get excited about it at the same time? I think that's where the three year time horizon. You'll make sense because you know it needs to be something that you can see reasonably happening three timeframe but one of the things that's really critically important to is to suspend that how question because if a vision if it's properly formulated you're not going to see the entire. How Vision has to precede strategy? And I've said this in my book your best year ever when it comes to goal setting but once you get clear on the vision what you're trying to accomplish din. The strategy has a way of showing up until you get clear on. What were you WANNA go? It doesn't really matter how you're going to get there. That only becomes relevant. Once you get clear and word is you WANNA take Your company so yes so it's GonNa be in your discomfort zone. There's going to be part of it to make you uncomfortable. And that's how it should be if it's something that doesn't make you uncomfortable and it's just in the realm of kind of business as usual in a recommends. Sorta relies on an incremental game. That's not really vision. That's Doug Inspire. Anybody probably not even you right. Do you have an example from your own business? A Vision that you had created or you didn't quite yet know exactly how it was going to happen three years or so into the future and then can you tell us how you figured out what to do to realize that vision. Yeah so one. Example of that is that we have this vision of really helping leaders and we thought it'd be awesome if we do something in the realm of coaching so initially we thought well. Let's just take my best selling course of five days to your best year ever and let's create a coaching program for those that want to go deeper around it. And so that that worked kind of and we did the same thing with my free to focus on productivity we. Did we call them activation workshops and we did a deeper dive for people that want to go deeper..
Have a Vision or Be Doomed to Failure. Vision Scripting, with Michael Hyatt
"What's up everybody? Welcome to session. Four hundred seventeen of the smart passive income podcast. My Name is Pat. Flynn here to help you. Make more money safe more time and help people to today. Like I said we have a dear dear friend of Mine Michael. We actually went fly fishing together last year. Through Wyoming and Idaho and it was awesome. We talked a lot and I'm excited because I learned about this book coming your way and it is available now Amazon again. That's the vision driven leader here. He is Michael Hyatt from Michael Dot Com. Michael Welcome back to the smart passive income podcast. Thanks for being here again. Things Pat. It's so good to be on again. You know every time you come on you have something amazing to share in this time related to your upcoming book vision. Vision is so important and I think that most entrepreneurs we often dive into something without fully realizing the vision of where we wanna go and we want to get our hands dirty so quickly but why is it a mistake to take action without first thinking about where we wanna go in the vision that we have to use a metaphor. It's almost like jumping in the car with your entire family. And say hey. Let's go on a trip. We're going to add not really sure. But it's GONNA BE FUN. You know you could waste a lot of resources. Spent a lot of time and be very busy the entire time and never get to a destination that's meaningful and so I think that's that's true in an organization to you know there's so much sideways energy so much waste of resources. When we're not clear about the destination I think even you know in productivity which is a space that I've written a lot about knows a particular interest to you pat. You know productivity without a vision. You can end up very busy doing a lot of stuff. That doesn't really matter at the end of the day. And I think that the secret to having more margin your life to have it a business that you run instead of a business that runs you is to have a clear vision. Where you can create alignment and then drive the execution around that vision. Well here's my question around that because I know as entrepreneurs sometimes we don't fully know exactly where we're going in and we often here especially from people like Seth Godin you know just ship right and then kind of ready. Fire aim right. So how's your thoughts about you know finding a vision versus well we have to take action somewhere in a business plan is just kind of a gas. How do we? How do we balance that? And what is truly the methods for for really realizing this vision that you were speaking of. That's a great question. And certainly you're not going to have the kind of clarity at the beginning of the process that you'll develop as you move toward the objective but I still think it's important to take a stab at it just because you can't have absolute clarity doesn't mean that you shouldn't try. You know to have a vision for where you're going is critically important in terms of shaping your activities like. I I tell the story in the book in the Vision Driven Leader where I started the publishing company back in one thousand nine hundred eighty four and we had all kinds of energy we had investors. We had a mission and we were certainly had lots of opportunities but unfortunately because we didn't have a vision. There was no filter to really help determine where we are going to put our resources. We're GONNA put our effort and as a result we were kind of just. Every opportunity became a new thing that we pursued and it was at the end of the day. It was our opportunities. There were undoing because they were all over the map and we were just spread too thin so a vision provides that focus it provides. That clarity directs our actions so we don't squander our resources so that we don't waste our energy so that it's focused and so that it has an outcome that we're pursuing it makes me think of an really bullish on Tesla right now at this time of recording. You know the stock is up like crazy. There's a lot of fun and exciting. News happening in the world of Tesla and it makes me think of their sort of mission and vision which is to accelerate the world's transition to sustainable energy and lot of us have heard of obviously Elon. Musk and his sort of overall plan to change the world and it started with division of just okay. We want sustainable energy but then it started to help him determine okay. Well what might the steps be to make that happen? And of course he started with the roadster a higher level car that he was going to sell for lots of money to a few people that would then Supply the income and resources for the Model S. which came out in two thousand twelve around that time which then made money to then make the more production ready model three which has just recently come out and it's coming in stages but obviously it's always always based on this vision of accelerating the world's transition and it couldn't have happened with the model three at first and so you know we. The hard thing is Alon is just another world but I think that we can all benefit from seeing these things that we want to get into in such a way kind of far into the future. Do we begin determine what our vision is? Do you have any thoughts or questions or exercises that we can do right now to figure this out absolutely. Well I think first of all it's important to define what a vision is and so in the book I define it this way. I say vision is clear inspiring practical and attractive picture of your organization's future in other words. It's something that's a superior state to where you are right now. Typically I recommend to our business. Coaching clients have about five hundred people in our program. Right now business owners that it needs to be about three years from now you know beyond that technology is changing so fast. The for most businesses and there are some exceptions but for most businesses beyond that. It's just a wild guess less than that. And it's not going to be strategic so a written statement Really a script. I call it a statements now sufficient but a script that encompasses for areas. Where you talk about your team your products your marketing and your impact in the world and so it needs to be written and it needs to be written in the present tense but this is not something you know. You'RE GONNA cook up by you. Know going into the mountains and meditating and having some mystical experience this is more like just like when you're trying to draft the blog poster draft anything. You end up with with something that approximates what you WanNa do. But you're going to refine and edited over time but I recommend to people that are trying to formulate a vision to get away for a day and to go through a series of questions. In fact I have these questions in the book. Their vision prompting questions. Because I know how difficult it is for most people to sit down and and stare at empty screen you know it could be quite intimidating so this is almost like not quite but almost like paint by number so I have a series of questions. If you did nothing but answer these questions you would have probably eighty five to ninety percent of your vision script done and is this something you do on your own or do you do it with other members of your team together. I highly recommend that you start doing it alone you know. I've been a part of a process where I worked for a company where the CEO came in and said look our investors are asking me what my vision is. I'm not really a vision. Kinda guy so when appointed committee to figure out the vision and he put me in charge of it. Well it would have been awesome if he'd had a seat at the table or if you've given us some kind of idea for he wanted to go. But this is not something that you delegate. This is something that I think is integral to being a good leader vision or being a leader means that you're leading people somewhere will. Where's the somewhere you know whereas whereas the destination you're taking everybody so I recommend that you get alone. You get very clear you know step into the future stand in the futures at were use your imagination which is a. I think a God given faculty that we have to begin creating the future and describe which you see. Write it down. Write it in the present tense as though it were already happening and then once you get that first draft dinner time to go back to the team and say look. I've been thinking a lot about vision where we're going and this isn't perfect. It needs a lot of work. This is just a draft but in order to take it to the next level. I need your input. That's when you share it and really invite their input. What did I miss? What am I not seeing clearly? You know what what could be improved here Danube. In that in that process you're beginning to create buy in so that it becomes not just your vision but a collective vision but it will also ask to act as a filter for people who just say you know. That's not really what I signed up for. And that's fine. You want people that are aligned around that vision. The right vision will attract the right people and repel the wrong people.
"michael hyatt" Discussed on Smart Passive Income
"I want to quiz you. Do you know what this quote means. Have you ever heard of this quote vision without action? Is Daydream. Action? Without Vision is a nightmare. What do you think that means? Well the first part of it vision without action. It's daydream essentially. Means well if you have this big idea but you never do anything about it. Well it'll just continue to be a daydream. A wish something that will never happen but you can think about but the opposite the worse one action without vision is a nightmare. Well that's doing things without knowing exactly where you want to go sort of like a car that you drive around without any sort of destination will how do you even know which way to turn which way to go eventually? You're going to run out of gas and potentially burn out and we don't want that to happen today. Special guest is joining us here on the show. His name is Michael Hyatt. You might have heard of him before in the leadership space. He's been a guest here on the show several times in the past one of our favorites actually and he has a book that just came out literally last week called the vision driven leader. Ten questions to focus your efforts energize your team and scale. Your Business and we've talked a lot about taking the approach as business owner as somebody who steps into the CEO role. Even if you're just a solo per noor the difference between a scrappy entrepreneur. That sort of that sort of comes at day-by-day day versus the one who plans and whether you have a big team or small team that plan that vision that execution behind that is going to be key to your success so today. I'm excited to bring Michael on talk a little bit about what a vision actually is. How do we structure it? How do we understand it? How do we define it so that our teammates can understand it too and whether you have employees or not this is going to be something? That's really really beneficial to understand because we need that direction. We need that vision. Because we don't want our business our dreams to become a nightmare so.
"michael hyatt" Discussed on Order of Man: Protect | Provide | Preside
"But still hit it in this idea of practicality that has to be practical otherwise what's the point? Yeah it really needs to be something that division needs to be something that you could actually implement so for example. Let me just give you one of the Statements inside of our vision script that has to do with our team. So we say our employee experience reasonable autonomy planning and executing their own work without the impediment of overbearing management stifling REC- or procedural red tape we encourage innovation and experimentation is. Something doesn't work. We learn from it and move on. So how is that practical? Well that informs our policy so for example we have a policy that we call the no the no hassle software policy which means if people feel like. They need a piece of software for their equipment. They don't have to get approvals from three levels of supervisors. They don't have to do anything if it's under five hundred dollars day just by it and our people are responsible and so. That's how that manifests itself at a practical level vision the manifest itself as a practical level so you. I think you've always got to be asking yourself the question. Is this going to guide people in the practical decision making in the Policy Implementation? How do you see yourself as because one of the distinctions that you make and you go through? This is the distinction between leader and manager. Do you feel down you. Are you personally? Are both of those things one more than the other like? Where do you fall on on that spectrum? Yes or the distinction that I make in the book and talk about the difference between JFK. And a really. Good manager like George H W Bush who didn't quite do vision or didn't understand it but I would you know the the visionary the leaders job is to create the vision and to inspire the team and get them all. You know Roy in the same direction heading toward the same destination. The job of the manager is to mobilize the resources coordinate. The effort create the alignment. Get everybody moving on the execution toward vision. Both are important. And I don't mean in the book denigrate you know the manager right deference to eater because both of them are important. I consider myself more of a leader and certainly early in my career. I was more of a manager. I wasn't the guy up with the vision and it was good experience for me to have to be a manager but today I've got a C. O. Happens to be my daughter my oldest daughter and she's really focused on the management and I'm focused more on the vision but we're in a transition because we've announced already my suit accession so in two years. I'm going to become the chairman. Make her the CEO. She will move to the visionary and will replace her with a COO with more management person. So she's beginning to spread her wings on the vision thing now and actually much better at it than I am well. Congratulations on that. That decision that's gotTa be exciting and I'm anxious to see what the next chapter holds for you. It's it's pretty inspiring to watch lead from the way you have well like. I said if you want to be respectful of your time. Let me ask you a couple of questions. And then we'll wind things up today the first one. I'm actually really anxious to hear this because you you were asking me if there's any PC type things you need to worry about but that question is what does it mean to be a man. Yeah so how answer that without consideration of the PC part of this political correctness. Part of this I think a man Men Initiate you know. I think that's the that's the main thing I think sadly in the modern era you know you think of a man. Oftentimes the stereotype of the man is a couch. Potato that's reacting responding seen himself as a victim. That's not my view of manhood. Being a man means take initiative. I take full ownership of my life. I don't have the right to blame somebody else. I have to own everything in my life and be responsible for it and I think also being a man means that you're not just responsible for yourself but you're responsible for other people. I take my family responsibilities very serious. I take my responsibilities for my my company very seriously so being not only taken initiative taking full ownership taking responsibility for other people. So I'd say those three things that's excellent. I think the fact that you do those things from from my perspective looking in is a big reason why people follow you why I follow you. Why so many people are impacted by your work? Um Thank you I want to give you an opportunity to tell the guys how to connect including something that we just didn't dive into too much. Which is the vision scripture? Because I think this is a powerful tool that men could really use harnessed to start producing and identifying their own vision for themselves are so our goal is to help every man come with vision you know and not leave it to somebody else or think that they don't have the qualifications so we've created tool called the vision script or tool and in fact. Would you buy a copy of the book you Get the Vision Scripture to a with that and some other cool bonuses along with it so you can find out more about that Michael Haya Dot com or you can go to the vision driven leader? Dot Com? I think that's the right URL This is actually the first interview I've done in the book so we might need to double check. That out show hosts. Yeah Yeah we'll make sure you get it right for the guys but I think you are because I was reviewing some some documentation. I think that's accurate so we'll make sure we'll confirm that then tessick. Well Michael I want to let you know again. I started this by by paying you the compliment that I appreciate all the good work that you've done. I've been looking forward this conversation for quite literally years and you did not disappoint. I have so many other questions I want to ask. Maybe we'll have to do around to at some point or or dive into something a little bit deeper but man. I just really appreciate you taking the time. I know you're busy. I know you have a lot going on and it means a lot that you join us today. Well thanks. It was an honor and a fantastic conversation. So thanks for some great questions. Thanks Michael Our guys there. You go just wrapped up with Michael Hyatt hope you enjoyed that podcast? As much as I enjoyed the conversation with Michael. Obviously he's a man who knows a lot about leadership. He knows a lot about vision and casting vision. Organizational frameworks and strategies is very very effective. He's very very efficient. And I have personally used just about every program and platform strategy that he is available as I've been building this This order of movement. So if you're inspired by what we've done over the past five years then you are definitely going to be inspired by the man who inspired a lot of the work that we're doing here so I want to give credit where credit is due. May Go connect with him. Pick up a copy of the book division driven leader. You will not be disappointed. It's a very very good read and it will help you formulate some plans for leading for taking charge for building the type of life that you want guys on his party note. I just want to thank you for being on this path with me could not be where I am without you. Obviously it takes this brotherhood this fraternity this organization. This order to do what we do. And I'm so honored to be standing shoulder to shoulder with you in the in the fight in the battle to reclaim and restore masculinity some much of a fight today and I'll tell you why it's because you men who are Espousing and adopting the virtues and principles that we talk about in half for the past five years are doing your work and the people are seeing the benefits of having genuine strong bold assertive responsible men in their lives. And that's why we don't hear about things like toxic masculinity in these times of crisis so keep doing what you do. I really appreciate it. I'm inspired and motivated by you as well again..
"michael hyatt" Discussed on Order of Man: Protect | Provide | Preside
"Do that right after the show for nominee back to my conversation with Michael yet the you know as I was preparing for this conversation reading through the book and just doing my homework on my end it really brought to light this phenomenon that we have and many of us suffer from which is fear of missing out right. We see what everybody else is doing. We see what opportunities we pass by and we get really consumed in anxious with off. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa miss this thing that's going on but I found in my own personal life that as I've been clear about what I want and then having the strategy to get there that fear of missing out his dissipated quite significantly because I'm just not it doesn't it doesn't concern me. It's like cooler doing that. That's great here's what I'm doing and I'm so focused on what I'm doing that I don't have time for these other things. Yeah excellent. I found that to be true to the more focused or locked in your own vision. You don't really have time to be looking around and seeing whenever somebody else is doing other than you know. Just cheer them on Your Support. 'em Or whatever but yeah. I don't feel that competitive when I'm looking around because I got too much to do in terms of accomplishing my own vision. Right makes sense one of the things that you talked about as well as that. You use the framework that you discuss which these ten questions and we're going to get into some of these here in a minute. You suggest that it's also used as a diagnostic tool for your life and what's working and potentially what isn't. How do you see this this practice in this exercise of creating a vision as a diagnostic tool? Well I think first of all you need to consider the fact that if your life is at lining up with your vision you could ask yourself. Where is it now working? You know whereas whereas my life not coming in alignment with my vision. Or where's my company? Now coming into line with Matt Vision that means by the way you have to frequently revisit this vision. This can't be a once. Put It on the shelf. Forget it kind of document. The real work of the vision is not in the creation of it but in the communication of IT and let it be a living document inside your organization so that you're constantly truing up and using it as a diagnostic for you know are are we headed in the direction that we said. We're going to go in the vision. Well let's get into some of the other factors that a good vision has to has to have now and I'm drawing a blank. You talked about the four characteristics minute ago but some other things that I saw here as I was going through. This is that it has to be clear has to be inspiring Has To be practical and it has to be attractive. Can we break down some of these factors and Begin to work backwards into creating our own our own vision for ourselves. Yeah absolutely so. Let's start with clarity. You know. That's chapter four in the book and clarity's important because you might think you're being clear but you might not be as clear as you think. Tell the story in the book about some friends of mine flew into town and I was supposed to meet him at a restaurant in Franklin Tennessee where I live and so I was at the restaurant. They didn't show up later. We get a call and they say hey. We're a little confused. We were unable to find the restaurant and I said well. Where are you right now? And so they told me they said that doesn't sound anywhere familiar. I said where are you guys? This were in Franklin. I said you're in Franklin Tennessee. Is it no-one Franklin Kentucky Oh my goodness so they had? They had just googled Franklin when they left the airport and Franklin catas- distances Franklin Tennessee. And so they were. You know way north of where they needed to be north of us in Franklin Tennessee so Franklin wasn't clear enough they needed to be specific about the state they were looking at. So I I have this thing in this chapter called a vision grid where I talk about if you could imagine the Y axis being vision and your vision is either abstract or concrete. You know something that's kind of ambiguous or it's very specific and then the x axis is communication. You're either either implicit or it's explicit and so this leads to a grid so you can have visions. That are abstract and implicit in other words. It's confusing you haven't really expressed it. You just Kinda got a hunch and what that results in is you know. Fog Basically People don't have a clue where the business is going. The second quadrant is one where it's abstract and explicit so in other words The person who who has the vision maybe clear in their mind but the waited they're expressing. It is just not coming out that great and so they might. You know sort of default to buzzwords like you know we want to create synergy or we're going to take it to another level or disruption or get the low hanging fruit or wheel house or all. These words that people listened to they go okay. You said a lot of stuff but I'm not sure. What was this reminds me? Those vision statements that you see on the wall of offices and you walk anyway. Lots of words on there. What does it mean? And they're like I don't know I don't know what it means but sounds good does yes it does. It's just a plaque right. And their then there's a quarter and three which is concrete and implicit where you have clarity. But it's just not being expressed. The leader has an intuition. He seems to be or she seems to be guided by their intuition. They seem to have clarity themselves. But the but the communication is implicit. They're not being explicit. The best vision scripts are both concrete and explicit. So in other words you get concrete. It's very specific but then you express it you leave nothing to chance and so that's love having it written that produces clarity so I think you know the first step you know. When you're when you're trying to get clarity around your vision to admit he just. Isn't that clear you know. And there's nothing wrong with that just to admit it and maybe it's solicit the feedback of other people and ask for putting sometimes people say know. I think there's need some work. Could you make this more clear? So you definitely want a clear. And that's the first job if it could be subject to ambiguity or if it's not expressed it's going to be useless yet not then before we get a move on from there. I mean not because you said you know. It doesn't hurt to to ask. Not only does it not hurt. I would imagine it's encouraged because if you're not doing that you're you're leaving. All sorts of blind spots available that will inevitably produce miscommunication like like the store. You shared who totally ineffective go ahead. Go ahead well I was just going to say I think the way I encourage leaders to do this is by yourself and come up with a rough draft Then go to your team. Whoever your inner circle is maybe it's an executive team. Maybe it's just a few friends. Whatever it is in your organization but share it with him. You're not Moses coming down from Sinai you know this is wet cement at best and just say hey look. I've had some thoughts about to take the company. I need your input to make it better. Then fold in their input. They will see things you didn't see they will if it's the right kind of environment if you created a culture where it's safe for dissent and they can give some pushback that's great because out of that kind of vigorous debate comes the best vision scripts then from there. Then you can roll it out to your entire organization but so it's a process it's going to get refined and it's going to get more clear over time. Is there any risk in asking too many people for their feedback? Because it seems to me that if you get so many opinions and inputs in that were conflicting and different that it might watered down a very tight focused vision statement or script for yourself. Yes absolutely this. Here's the worst way to do. It do vision by committee right right. You end up with that by the way that's basically called. Well that's how we ended up with bills and congress You know we end up with these unwilling things can't be administrated and can't be funded you know without just crazy but But yeah to try to do it by committee desert work. That's why I think this is a issue of leadership you know starts with us a leader. It's not that difficult. Explain it in detail in the book but Do It yourself then. Bring it to your leadership team. That's that's my preference in my case. It's my executive team and then beyond that then we're rolling out. We're still open to feedback but it's more set in stone at that point so occasionally like this last year somebody brought up a very good point something. They thought we were missing in the team. Section about diversity and so we said you know what actually right. We need to have something in there so that was good input. They weren't involved in shaping it but it was still a good kind of check and balance. 'cause we wanted them to own it and we want to make sure it's possible for us as a leadership team in this this stuff too right right and I liked that you talked about this idea of of. I think he called it. Safer descent is what she called it where it is open and available for somebody to critique or bring to light something that you may not have seen yourself. I think a lot of us pay that idea lip service like we. We say we're willing to that. But then when somebody actually suggests something we come down hard on them or make them look like a fool or try to humiliate them in front of everybody else and you undermine the words that you were saying. Oh Man I can't take. That's like the one of the worst but most easy to commit mistakes you can. You can make in business or in leading any organization the safer you can make the environment for dissent the safer you make it for yourself. Because here's here's a reality. You'RE GONNA SCREW UP YOU'RE GONNA make mistakes. You don't have twenty twenty vision and other people are in your organization to help counterbalance and see things that you don't see. I remember I used to have this guy on my team. That was like the ultimate Naysayer. He was a web developer. Any always seem to see the the negative side of everything and so my daughter who works in the company said to me you know I just think we should get rid of him. He's just a negative influence. And I said absolutely not or you can meet. Do you know how many times he saved us? And I said granted. He could use some coaching so I went to him and said Look Andrew. Here's the thing we want to hear from you because you see things arrest. Don't see but you might wait till a little later. In the process of all the air out of the room at the beginning right people rain storm. Let them think about this and then we can talk about it but we want your input. I do.
"michael hyatt" Discussed on Order of Man: Protect | Provide | Preside
"Neighbors who are concerned frustrated and confused about what's going on what's going to be happening so leadership is more important now than it ever has been. I think you guys are beginning to see the importance of the work that we've been doing over the past five years and it couldn't be more timely not to say that. I'm opportunistic about the corona virus fallout but I would suggest that we can really put the ideas and strategies and the things that we've been talking about over the past five years into practice more so now today than probably over any time within the last year so. I'm glad that you're tuned in. I'm glad that you're here. Hopefully this is served as a valuable resource on your path to become a more effective and capable man. I would ask before we get started today. Please share this are. There's a lot of guys who have some downtime. They need some some direction some guidance. And hopefully this is the tool that will provide that at least get them on the path. So if you have your brother father colleague friend neighbor whoever it may be who needs to hear the information then please chaired this also if you would leave a rating and review all right. You've got a little time on your hands. Take two minutes of that time if you've gotten any value from what we're doing here. Jump on your podcast. App Writer. Review gives five stars or whatever you think we deserve. I think five stars but I'm a little bit biased and then just leave that rating review and that's a great way to say thanks and it's a great way to to build a movement which is what. Obviously I'm trying to do here in being as important as it is our guest. I've got a very good one for you today. I say that every week but every week it is a good one. So that's just what it is. This one is particularly important to me because it's from a man who had been following for a very long time and to be able to have a conversation with him was was very powerful. I'm going to get to that in just one quick second but I do want to. Mention origin made yes. They are show sponsors but more than that they are friends and I am extremely motivated inspired and uplifted by what they've been doing in this time of need They've shut down. I WANNA say two or three of their production lines at this point and have focused very very heavily on making masks For for everyone but also making a personal protection equipment fe shields in particular for hospitals first responders and those types of individuals so they've made some sacrifices obviously but they are stepping up in a big way in a time of need so check them out. If you want you can go to my instagram page at Ryan McClure and look. I've been sharing what they're doing. But these face masks are very very cool and they will keep you more protected than than doing nothing so go check out and support this. One hundred percent made in America Company origin. May as in the state main origin main DOT com. Check out those face masks and face shields and of course everything else that they are doing including their cold war supplement which I take every single day. You want to check that out as well. It's called Cold War. All right go check them out after the show for now. Let me get to Michael Hyatt. He is an author. He's a podcast or he's a speaker he's also the former chairman of Thomas Nelson publishing so very Very well educated when it comes to publishing and writing books and things like that which is initially how I got introduced to him. I came across his work as I was launching order man about five years ago and since then. I've been following me. His advice been implementing strategies for growing and leading a movement building effective organizational strategies in my personal and professional life and then ultimately taking charge in both areas professionally and personally so when his team out and requested to have Michael on her. Podcast course jumped at that opportunity to have a conversation with this man who has been extremely extremely influential in my life in fact or would not be the same if it weren't for Michael Hyatt He's a New York Times bestselling author. Today he's here to talk with us about his ideas and concepts in his new book called Division driven leader. Enjoy US Michael. I'm so honored to have you join us today. Had been looking forward to this conversation for a very long time. Thanks Ryan great to be with you man yeah. I didn't tell you this before. We started recording. Because I wanted to kind of say this as a surprise here but about I wanNA say six years ago. Roughly you were very very instrumental in helping me launch my first podcast which is completely unrelated to what we're doing here and I don't feel like I'd be in the same position without your indirect guidance and counsel so I really appreciate that. Well thank you means a lot. Yeah well you're doing great work. I mean your your work when it comes to productivity and goal achievement one thing that really resonates with me and I'm sure a lot of the guys who are listening is codifying these pie-in-the-sky type theories and concepts and making it very practical tangible and an easy to apply in. Somebody's life well. Thank you know I think for me the way I learned is I like to kind of reduce everything to almost like a recipe. You know that you can't fail on so like what are the ingredients. And that's what I try to do in my books and my their work. How do you how you begin to cipher all of that information down because in the quote unquote self help space? There's there's just so much information and a lot of it's really good and some of it is complete nonsense. Like how do you begin to isolate and extract the pieces of the recipe? That are GonNa make the most sense. It's a great question I think for me. It usually begins with research you know. I'm a huge researcher and I love looking at the science of different things and I especially like to try to kind of go against sort of the conventional wisdom and see if there's anything to that you know usually if the conventional wisdom I think okay that's the zig what's Zag you know. Is that really the whole story or is there something else or what's missing or whatever so that's usually begins for me then. I try to reduce it down to you. Know How could I explain this in a way that so simple that you know even academics could understand it? I'm being facetious but But yeah I feel like so much of the literature you know. Particularly academic level is so difficult to access and I just want to. You know undermanned accessible where people can actually use it and to me. There's no transformation without application so I'm always driving towards the application. What can I do in my life? That's going to create a difference. It makes so much sense and it's funny though when it comes to the simplicity of things. I think there's a lot of people you know when when I run across people like this. I think a lot of the Times. It's an excuse but I see so many people overlooking the power of simplicity like most people. It seems to me believe that success is some sort of complicated algorithm. That is only reserved for the select. Few who are able to crack it and so they use this as an excuse not to do very simple things that will move the needle in a big way. Yeah totally and I think usually that's resulted a lack of reflection. I was a philosophy major and one of the things I realized about two years into that my program was that I was having a really hard time understanding comprehending a lot of these philosophers and it finally dawned on me. You know what it's not me. It's them you know if they can't make it simple enough to understand. They're not doing their work. You know and and I think that that's how it is a lot of fields. You know that sort of the implicit communication that if you don't understand this you're not smart enough and I just think that's whereas communicators whether you're a writer or speaker a podcast or whatever. The hard work is to try to distill it and make it simple so that people can understand it. I mean people are busy today. People are distracted today. And if you want to see transformation in people's lives you gotta put the cookies down on the shelf where they can reach them and they can digest them and metabolism yet. That's a good point. I definitely think there's a level of responsibility on both parties the communicator and the person who's receiving the message. It's funny though. I hear a lot of guys who will say things like you know. Well if they don't understand me that's their problem. Actually it's your problem because if you're trying to get somebody to do something. It is your responsibility to ensure that they understand. Because you really don't have a right to be upset if they don't get what you're trying to communicate to them right. Totally I mean. Communication is a two way street. And you're you're right. They do have a responsibility. But on the other hand if you've communicated but they haven't heard whose fault that is. Whose fault is that. And I think it's the person who's taking addition to communicate if people don't if they think concept that I'm teaching is just confusing or wrong or whatever you know. It's on me to make more clear to make it more compelling and that's one of the things I try to work harder you will. I appreciate the the humility and it certainly takes a level of humility. Because I know for me when I put projects whether it's a book or a course or whatever t shirt whatever the product might be. That's my baby right. Like I've put a lot of time and energy and effort and if somebody comes back and says I don't get it. It's very easy for me as a man to say well because you're an idiot as opposed to like. Oh wait. Maybe this isn't as good as I had it in my mind to be exactly. Yeah I sense well. I'm really looking forward to digging into the meat of this conversation which is going to center around the idea of vision in creating vision for yourself and then casting it to others which kind of ties into what we've been talking about because this is actually gonna be very applicable for me as as I looked at my organization from something that has been relatively successful to taking it significantly more serious and it really becoming a business as opposed to just some guy in a spare room in his house running this organization so I really feel like vision is a big component of that and being able to articulate to others but tell tell me and those who are listening why you think that this is the starting point. Why having a vision for what it is you want to accomplish is so important. Vision is the first and most important task of leadership. It's where all change begins if you can't see the future you darn sure you've got to be able to see it with enough clarity and in a in a way that's you know personally exciting and compelling enough to get you to start moving toward it. So that's where it all begins. You know I think a lot of people stay very busy today. I mean. It's not uncommon for me to meet Business Owners and entrepreneurs are working seventy to eighty hours a week and.
"michael hyatt" Discussed on SuperTalk WTN 99.7
"With Michael Hyatt earlier this week and he's doing some additional broadcasting on leadership and said things like that through tough times any he made a statement he said everyone watching this this morning which would also affect everyone listening to this broadcast ribbon the recording has a one hundred percent success rate of coping with whatever life has thrown at you so far everyone hearing this has a one hundred percent success rate of coping with everything you've gone through up to this point and will get me so you you have your own track record of I'll make it yeah and it's interesting because a lot of times when you're working with counting people you're going to ask them okay so you've been through tell me about something that you've been gyro and how did you get through it right in writing that down sitting there with a piece of paper in front of you and going you know what if I've been through in my life you know taking inventory and go how did I get through that is a really good exercise as well as just sitting there with a piece of paper and going what I thankful for right you know yeah what's going on okay what's what's going all right what do I have to be thankful because when I start to think in those terms all of a sudden office on the world opens up possibilities open up I think stressful times help us realize that we we have already what we need to be successful and to to push third and sometimes you do need these I won't I don't wanna say reset situation but you have these situations where it forces you to to to reach for that potential and realize that you can do it yeah SL are so short that's right you know and that when you realize that and you see that and then you see that and other people I think that's the thing for me that's been quite refreshing is the we had I think as a society have gotten away from this this is the although this social distancing but I think I've had in you guessed I would help provide the same experience and I've heard from friends that I haven't heard from in a yes on every true mayhem you know just say Hey I just want to check on you it's not in text it's a phone call it's you know it's funny whenever I want to get a tax you know yeah so I think that's really cool you're listening to the investor coaching show following clear along with Evan Bernard along with our work and Jonathan Walker Brenda took a quick break and be right back after this on super talk ninety nine seven W. T. attorney CPA Joe Cordell divorce is never an easy decision nor should it be you didn't get married to get divorced and if you're thinking is right you won't choose to for some good alternatives exist having said that if you're a man facing divorce you should know that like many things in life timing is important too often gas find themselves in a divorce court when their businesses are thriving when investments are appreciating in their income soaring not surprisingly these conditions tend to produce more painful property divisions and richer support orders the reverse is typically true when men are less favorable financial circumstances when their assets and our ability to pay are diminished my point is simply this divorce may make the most sense for men when.
"michael hyatt" Discussed on The Influencer Podcast
"It's the type of its type of book. That has these topics that I think are really easy to consume and really easy to understand the way in which you write and talk about these themes or talking about today. It's so easy to understand. Fuss should be really easy to take action on into apply. Good their life in business. So I'm really excited for that. And I kinda just want to dive into this idea of your background and I remember when I was just a little publicised working in a little cubicle at this place called Thomas Nelson and there was this man named Michael Hyatt who was the big boss at the time. I was there right around the time that you were transitioning out and or stepping into to the to the life in the business and in the the role that you have today but there was a lot get leaning up to those moments throughout that decade of probably two thousand or twenty ten and I would love to share just a little bit of of of your background and how all of those components really leads the leader that you yes sure well. I spent almost my entire career the book publishing world so fresh out of college. Actually when I was in college at Baylor University has started working for a Small Publishing Company there in Waco Texas a company called word publishing which was later acquired by Thomas Nelson but I I was working through. Divisional management ended about two thousand four. I broke my ankle and it is cited to try this new thing that was kind of all the rage at the which was blogging. Like I bring a couple books before that but I thought I would get back into writing and by the way publishing was moving in a digital direction and I thought I kind of need to figure out this brave new world of digital publishing so that I can lead the company and then in two thousand five I became the CEO of Thomas Nelson Publishers. Which at the time with was the seventh largest publisher in the US? We are publicly traded on the New York Stock Exchange and our lawyers came to me. It's an interesting story but the lawyers came to me and they said hey you can't blog and I said what do you mean? It can't block basically you the CEO of the company and Republican traded. So if you inadvertently reveal something and somebody trades on that information you know. That's like that's like a F- A felony. You know that could be a huge thing. You could end up in an Orange Jumpsuit. Put in jail. I didn't sound right. I said first of all the blog is public so everybody has access to it. It's no different than me. Say something in the newspaper or saying something publicly. Is Somebody trays on that information. You know the the the laws basically protect me from saying something privately to somebody that they would trade on so they were like. Oh Yeah I guess you're right so it was like the last. I heard for the lawyers so walked seriously from two thousand and four or two thousand eleven and I was blogging. All kinds of stuff you know sort of the publishing world leadership as I was growing to understand it and I was exercising it as the CEO. At Thomas Nelson and so by the by two thousand eleven. When we sold the company to Harpercollins I had about one hundred thousand unique page views among my mailing lists Jalil. This was only about twenty five hundred people but somehow I thought you know I'm GonNA speak at right full time and I think my platform is big enough to sustain me and provide for me and yeah it probably should have been a little bit bigger before it took dumb anyway so what I did and it all worked out but I feel like at the time in two thousand eleven. You were such an even. Before that you're such on the forefront of this logging world we have so many bloggers that listen to this podcast to have a hundred thousand page views in two thousand and eleven and twenty five hundred people on your newsletter. When that wasn't even the thing that you were mainly focusing on is that is a pretty remarkable feat improbably kind of you know allowed you to have that vision of. I think there may be something here. So what was that pivotal moment for you to say? I mean you were at the top of your game. You had a job that so many people in the publishing industry would just you know? Kill over and you're like this is great. I've built this. It's awesome now. I'M GONNA lead in pivot and go full time on this blogging online entrepreneur thing and see what happens but I think there was a couple things. It's great question first of all. I was really bored in my job so I got into book publishing because I love words I love working with authors and I love being sort of a literary midwife to help authors. Give birth to their ideas. So that's that's why I got into it. That's what I love doing. But the more I was successful the more I got promoted. Tell eventually I was doing mostly administration about the time I became the CEO. Thomas Nelson it was mostly Me Working with the financial community analysts on Wall Street. You Know Investment Bankers It was all financial which I I did pretty well. I learned that part of the business. I had no training in it but I learned it. I can hold my own with it but it just bored me. It's something I call in my book. Free to focus the disinterest zone out of my desires own right had passion and proficiency and there was something about the creativity of blogging blog. I do you know nights and weekends and there was something about that that made me come alive and because of the blog I would get the occasional opportunity to speak and initially I hated speaking terrified me like it does most people but over time I got I think pretty good at it and really enjoyed it so I said you know what it's now or never you know this. This sale to Harpercollins made it the perfect time and so I stayed with the company for another year as the chairman. But I really didn't have an operating role which was perfect which meant ill shorthand for that. Was they continue to pay me a salary so it gave me about a year to be able to try to really focus my attention on the blog and on speaking and writing before it would be totally on my own etta generate all my own revenue? So many good things in here you talked about your board at wasn't what you are passionate about. You learn the other things that you need it to learn ray like you you. You really stepped into that but it wasn't where you knew that you were being called to serve so you you took this year. You had the salaries who had a little bit of this of this net. If you will to kind of get your ducks in a row. How did you know the difference between you know? This is something that I loved to do. And I'm passionate about and it's a hobby to that difference of. I WANNA go all in on this and I want to create a business around this and really this community of service men of leadership and really go all in how. How did you know the difference between that? And how did you find the courage to listen to that difference in step into that good question because a lot of people face this first of all? I don't encourage people to just make the leap without already building a platform so I'd already been blogging by that time since two thousand and four so seven years I've been blogging and in an essence I was listening to the market because I had people that was back in the days when blog comments would run. Sometimes I'd make a blog posts. I get over one hundred comments and so people were really affirming really encouraging and it was of that that I think I found the courage and by the way that doesn't mean I wasn't scared I was still scared it on. I think there's A. There's a distinction at learned this from Dan Sullivan. There's a distinction between confidence and courage. They look the same from the outside but inside they feel way different so I was still terrified to make this leap. I thought Gosh I'd already gone through business. Failure by the way in a company that run back in the eighties and it failed in nineteen ninety-two so there was kind of his. Lingering doubt inside of my brain you know. Do I really know business well enough to run a big company but to start something from scratch. Dr Really have what it takes so there was a lot of self doubt but I just thought in thankfully I have a very supportive wife. You've met my wife Gail to just saying Babe I gotta go for it. You know do it. If it doesn't work you can get another job but I think you had to go for it. I think this is your passion. You really good at it. The markets telling you something so go for it. That's so good and and I love that you talked about you know listening to the market. Having having those years of experience that you were building up and then having the courage to do it anyways even though you were terrified. I love and that to me. That's a true testament the leader which I wanNA talk more about One of the biggest things that I noticed when I was going through the book of the Vision Driven Leader as you talk about the difference between. They're being leaders in this world and then they're being managers in this world so I would love for you to kind of tell us what in your words would be the major difference between those things and then can leaders be managers and vice versa. And where do you start to see those lines? Kind of getting blurry? Do they need to be distinct. Can THEY BE BLURRY? What does that look like well? I definitely think they're they're two different functions. Oftentimes they reside in two different people like you have a CEO and AC- oh so for example in my company Michael Haydn Company. We've got about forty full time employees under CEO. My daughter. Megan is our C. O. She will become the CEO at about two years. We've already announced it. It's already happening. And she's got definitely what it takes but you'll have to take on a little bit different roles so let me just kind of paint. A picture of how they're different so leaders create vision managers execute vision leaders inspire and motivate managers maintain and administer leaders take risks but managers are there to control rests. We are stay focused on the horizon while managers have their eye on short term goals and objectives. But it's really this vision. But I think more than anything else characterizes a true leader if you're not willing to be visionary if you're not willing to find a destination.
No-Fail Meetings with Michael Hyatt
"The last time you got super pumped excited an amt about a meeting like have have you ever said man? I just can't wait for this meaning. Has that ever happened. Yeah probably not. And that's because most people perceive most meetings things as being ineffective unuseful unproductive and in no way helpful from the Ramsey network. This is the entree leadership podcast where we help business. Leaders grow themselves their teams and their profits. I'm your host Alex Judd and although we may hate meetings we do need them and not only that we're also responsible for them here at entree leadership. We believe that the success or failure of a meeting the productivity of meeting depends on one thing leadership leadership that means that meetings are one of your greatest responsibilities but also one of your greatest opportunities in today's guest is one of the world's leading adding on productivity and organizational effectiveness and so today's guest is Michael Hyatt and he knows from experience. Just how horrible all meetings can be the benefits of doing them right and just how high stakes actually are. I think like a lot of business owners like like a lot of executives. You've got to the place where I just hated meetings. It felt like that was my entire life. And in fact I became C O Thomas Nelson publishers. I was in meetings almost every day all day. which meant that? The only time I had to get my work done was either after work before work or on the weekends and it just wasn't sustainable. Life and then I started realizing leising that a lot of these meetings are not that helpful and as it turns out the average person in a corporation today in America spends sixty two or sixty two different meetings a month. That's over fifteen eighteen a week. We're spending thirty seven billion dollars on meetings in this country every year and the average executive spends more than half third time in meetings. Oh my makes you cringe. It does because you think. Are they really that productive and most people I talked to most of my clients. They hate meetings as I thought. We gotTA reinvent this because meetings have to happen. If you're going to coordinate work if you're gonNA stay aligned is a team you've got to have meetings It's funny I've kind of read a little bit and listened to a lot of how you come at this subject and just as my own little experiment I walked around our office and talked to a bunch of my friends and the people that I spend time with with and just reach out to him and I asked him what is the one word or phrase that first comes to mind lords whenever you hear the word meeting and I told him it has to be the knee jerk reaction and and here's what they gave me someone said is it worth my time. Someone said could it be an email. Three people said boring Some people said what's it about one person said. Oh someone said. Waste ways disappointed time time time and then there was one innocent soul that it's like this and this is this guy's personality to he's just so positive live and I asked him that question. You said collaboration and who is like God bless you. You are the untainted person. But it's amazing how. We all seem to have this negative connotation in her mind. Whenever we hear that word? Why why do you perceive that? That's the case. I think because most meetings are a waste of time by virtue of the fact that they're not run well they're not planned end honestly. They sometimes substitute for things that could be done in a completely other way. For example this often happens in corporations operations where somebody doesn't really make a decision. They've got some ambiguity about some topic that they they need clarity on and so instead of actually doing the hard work of thinking for themselves or or making the decision they schedule meeting. So it's kind of a fancy way to procrastinate. Oh my organizationally and it also is a is a fancy way to kind of share the blame lame or the responsibility so instead of me having to come up with a solution a bunch of people in a room and I'll have a group decide then it won't be my responsibility but in doing so you're slowing slowing things down so much. That's why I think meetings. If you're not careful can kind of create this undergrowth in your culture that absolutely slows everything down. They don't have to be that way but they can't be that way if you're not careful and that was something that you said in your book that really stood out to me. Is that a lot of times. We have this underlying assumption that may actually be ally that meetings eatings our work and in reality. It seems like a lot of meetings aren't work at all so I guess how should we look at what warrants a meeting. What defines what is worth having a meeting about this kind of goes to the first point in my book no fail meetings and that is you gotta decide? I think you've got to first determine. Do we need a meeting. So what are the worst possible. Uses of. Meeting is to disseminate information. You know. It's the slow way it's the painful way. And if you ask employee's it's the number one thing that they ate a meeting is a status update meeting as like the death meeting. Nobody wants to status update meetings. Because you start asking yourself the question is there a better underway to disseminate this information. Why we have to get everybody in a room all the small talk all the time this expanded all the payroll that's expended on something like that just just to inform them of something that we could do a much better way? We could do it. You know through an email or if you slack in your organization you know some way just internal communication to update people. So that's a bad reason to have a meeting so that's the negative side of things. What are the topics are what are the arenas that do warrant getting a group of people together and sitting down? Yeah I think whatever. You're trying to plan work you know. And you're trying to brainstorm a topic and you realize that you don't have all the resources or have a limited perspective you know as a manager or leader and you won't involve the people who bring different perspectives. So that you've got much richer conversation and a bitter full ORB perspective on that topic also when you want to make a decision you know making a decision decision. That's a key thing that these are good for. The meetings are good for but they need to lead to that. They need to lead to either better thinking or they need to lead to better decisions but it doesn't seem to be dissemination of information and I think that Kinda hits on this idea that it's like they should be driving towards something totally and it'd be an outcome. Yes okay so explain. What is the difference between a well? Run meeting that has an outcome and one that doesn't okay. It all starts. Well I should say I was going to say it all starts with the right agenda Enda. That's that's the first thing but you also have the right people in the room so it's got to be the right people in the room and it can't be too many people if you have too many people in the room and we don't WanNa leave anybody out but if you have too many people in the room that also slows down the conversation and you know there are too many people in the room when you've got people that are not commenting. They're not engaged. You know maybe the conversation is between three or four for people that meeting probably should have been with those three or four people right. But you've got to have an agenda and there's a specific format that. I advocate for an agenda in the book. No fail meetings and so I think that's where it starts but the last part of that is you've got to be really focused on what he outcomes. What are the decisions that we made? What's the follow up? We expect and we're GONNA hold people accountable to those follow up actions so that we don't have to keep having the same meeting over and over again so it sounds like a lot of whether a meeting is a failure or a success depends on the actions. You take well before the meeting actually begin slowly that really falls on the leader. You know it's up to him to first of all all decide who's going to be in the meeting what the overall purpose of the meeting is going to be. There's a novel idea you know just so that people walk in knowing why we're here and then creates the agenda agenda because you need to know when the meeting is over so like I serve on the Board of an academic institution and one of the things I discovered about academics. It's different than business owners and the people that listen to this podcasts. Is They just love talk. They love to hear themselves talk. The meetings can go on forever and ever if you plan to three hour meeting you fill it up. Probably go four hours but in business. We can't afford that. That's not the we don't have that luxury we gotta get to the point. Finish the beating get onto the next thing so being outcome focused knowing the purpose of the meeting is critical. So how do you get into a spot because it takes more time on the front end. But you're gonNA reap the rewards of Preparation so how'd you get into a spot where you discipline on yourself as the business owner as the business leader to really take that time on the front end and actually prepare. Will let's talk about recurring meetings so these are meetings that are like standing standing needs that happen over and over again so maybe a one on one meeting with an assistant or somebody in your team it may be a team meeting that you have like a team huddle once a week first of all always have somebody taking minutes. If I'm going to be in fifteen meetings a week or even ten meetings a week I'm under forget. I'm GONNA sleep since the last time I was in that meeting so I wanNA record of what we discussed not want detail you know. Alex said this and then Michael said that no no just mostly the decisions that we made just a summary of that but I also want to summarize and put at the top of the minutes. That's the follow up items that we outlined so this is critical. We WanNa have the follow up items and we want to have an owner of those follow up items and we want to begin the a meeting by reviewing what we said. We're going to last time. What were the outstanding items and you ask a question about preparation? So one of the things to be a good medium participant or a good meeting leader. Are- is to review those before you come to the meeting so you don't show up and then you're embarrassed you like I didn't get to that you know or I forgot. I was supposed to do that but what you really want to do. Is Show up and say Yup. I got that done because I agree to it beforehand. I had a date on it when I was going to get it done. And that's my responsibility before I show up at the next meeting so I in the meeting and I start to meeting with those things but I think you hit on that idea already. It's because you were expecting to have to give that update in the next meeting that you actually work and so that goes in line with what you already kind of alluded to with establishing an agenda for the meeting. I'd love for you to dive into this. Doesn't have have to be as complicated as some people make it. I think what makes for an effective agenda for a meeting. Yeah I would say this I mean first of all start with the basic information you know who the participants are and all that and then get to the purpose of the meeting so I would literally state the purpose and the desired results. Like we're here to do this. We're here to make a decision on Sarah's marketing any proposal you know with that though decision on Sarah's marketing proposal that is remarkably specific super specific and is that important. It is important you'll like. What are the meetings said? Yesterday and the purpose was were here to discuss our October financial results and find out why gap we have between now on the end of the year and then brainstorm ways to fill it so it sounds kind of long but that's a specific outcome. That by the way was the entire result that we wanted for the
"michael hyatt" Discussed on Biz Talk Radio
"Throughout the day man I like that that I'm a Michael Hyatt journal kind of guy so when I wake up I have my big three for the week in my big three for the day so I am I am right there with you it really really is all about that about that purpose and so let's go straight to that quotation that I gave that came out of and I I can't I don't I don't know if it originated from purposeful aging dot com though I like that title or was just in the blog from the author but you know what gets you up after retirement so Paul you're not retired I am not retired but what gets you up in the morning other than purpose what when you talk to people who are in transition who have gone to retirement what do you tell them about getting up in the morning well I think that that whole idea purpose or what you know what I call the big why why we here that's that's really what I try to get people to get on skunk cover what that purpose in life is because that's what that's what gets people up in the morning and if that when I'm working with clients and leadership or in the the transitions into and I know we talk about retirement I think the time is changing but it is about those transitions but what do we want to do what we want to do something we really passionate about as we transition from what I think about as full time careers in to whatever comes next and so I do I'm working usually at the beginning of a relationship with a coaching clients on really discovering that Papa state that it's there it's about discovering what it is and we spent some time really exploring that once that's clear and the transition becomes easy in the up yeah and and it does help and I I have told people before and and he's now says he that they're they're both deceased but I had two uncles might our business time doctor Paul is is public education and so I had two uncles one who taught math who hated every moment of it and one who taught English who loved every moment of it and everything else about the most similar they they both fought in World War two and they both came from the same family and when when my uncle who retired from World War two retired from mass which she hated became a wonderful person to be around and when it when it was when it was somebody when I was my uncle who left English you loved it he was not so happy so I I can totally tell you that it's all about finding that purpose that I've seen in a thirty one years that I've been in the industry for sure so what I'm I read a quotation from Socrates I think it yesterday morning this morning that is initially said the the quality of our life is dependent upon the questions that we ask so to help somebody find their purpose doc what what questions do you ask them I think it comes back to that question but but but I think I introduced us now what gets you up in the morning you know at that I think we we often lie in bed thinking okay I got to get out now most of us through our lives have to get up for work yeah we have to go to work because that's the way beyond a living as we transition we don't have to get out we have to we have to wake up and then decide what we're gonna do so lying in bed in the morning you can you can turn over you can switch the alarm off if you had it on you can turn over and stay in bed okay fess up I'm fortunate I live by the beach when I'm in Florida I live in west Palm Beach and I live by the beach yeah my my morning stopped just before sunrise and I'm usually on the beach and that's where I sort of reflect on what it might be the next I'm fortunate I live by the beach but it is about what a life what do I want to do today one of my passionate about if we start to uncover that and I say the question is what gets you up in the morning and maybe it's just that Cup of coffee but if it's only a couple coffee then you're going to be pretty bored but if something says I get up in the morning to welcome to my grandchildren or to mentor right a high school student whatever it is if we can answer that question what gets you up in the morning and that that can inspire us to do some great things and and so true the inventor Frankel's book and in man search of meeting you know really addressed what is that bigger purpose than ourselves in terms of what it is and I think I think so many people try to say well you know I need I need to do this or I need to do that because society says this is a big deal that's a big deal but in reality it's it's the big deal for you it's what it's really what you want to devote your time and energy to going forward and you mention because frankly he's he's over to one of my inspiring teachers and he said life is never made unbearable by circumstances but only by a lack of meaning and purpose and and in search of meaning is just a great book to read but you know that's an inspiration in life is never made on bearable by circumstances but only by lack of meaning and purpose so if we get up in the morning and and it's raining or be disco feel good if we think about why we hear what top purpose in life that can be washed away if we just get on with life so very true and if you're not familiar with Frankel's work he lost his entire family his wife and everyone else he is one of the renowned psychiatrist of the of the world that made it through the Holocaust and had defined purpose while being and I held in a concentration camp and and so if anybody's going to talk about purpose and surviving through unimaginable things that would that would clearly be Victor Frankel that win win do you so so doc I take care of people at all ages but our focus my focus has always been on distribution I get frustrated the people work so hard to put money in and then because of the complexity of the tax code frustrations over markets they can't figure out how to get the money out in the most effective manner and that's really where where we come into play and most people find us right near either they're getting ready to go into that distribution part of life or they've already started and realized they needed a little bit more help but when do most of your most of your quote unquote clients come to you for coaching and they already retired or you helping them you know I'm fifty two are and you know as sensible at some point in time in life all retire at what age do you start working with me to prepare me great question yeah I I my experience for come of the people who come to me for coaching for the what I call rent retirement transitions it is in their late fifties now that's not to say people don't come in the early fifties I don't come in their sixties and seventies they do but the the time that I feel that I can make a difference is in that area towards sixty sixty five when people are really starting to think about what am I gonna do next now sometimes that's the plan you know I've got to pay the financials and I know by the ATA contest the year or so ago who said I'm gonna be sixty by the end of the year my financial adviser says I can retire I don't know what to do and so that's the.
"michael hyatt" Discussed on The Good Life with Stevie & Sazan
"All right. We've got Michael Hyatt on the line with us, Michael. How are you doing today? I'm doing fantastic. I'm so excited to be on with you both sell excited to have you on. I feel like we're so many questions that we want to ask you we wrote some down and CB wide. I'll I'll give you. Hi, big first, we have to say that we're having you on the show because at the beginning of the year this year, I was looking for a book to help me have my best year ever and your book is called your best year ever. And so I thought that's the book. I should listen to. So I'm and I say book to listen to you. I'm not a good reader. I'm a I'm a better listener. So I downloaded your best year ever. And I have to say it was so impactful, and it started really changing the way that I was thinking it was so productive. And we even did an episode on the good life Michael about using your past to benefit your future. And that's what we even entitled it. So we are so happy to have you on the show today. It's so great, by the way, I listened to to most books on audible first. And then if they're really good that all by the book, you know, the actual print book. But I'm like, you get will that that makes me feel even better because I used to think I was cheating. But it's like, you know, what song as I'm getting the information. That's what's important. So we wanted to have you on the show today because you've been coaching people in business and not only people in business, but but specifically leaders in business and helping them take their thing to the next level. I think Suzanne, and I are are in that season ourself in everything that we're doing we've. Had some success. And we're very happy about that. But we want to know how can we get to the next level really find that X factor for us? And so I know that you've mentor people and coach them professionally and personally, but what is like the most common thing that seems to hold people back from reaching that next level. Yeah. Usually is themselves. You know, the way I say is if you can't scale yourself, you can't scale your business. And so that really were were it starts because people find that they get the to the limits of their capacity and all of us have one hundred sixty eight hours in a week. So once that resource that finite resource called time is used up unless you figure out how to scale yourself. You can't scale your business. And that's why most businesses get stuck at a certain point. It's why eighty percent of all small businesses fail within the first five years and those that go past the five year Mark eighty percent of those will fail in the next five years. So you end up with. A four percent chance of succeeding, and it's all because in my opinion, you can't scale yourself. So what do you what does it mean? What does it look like to scale yourself? I think part of it is this whole issue of productivity. And I think that the modern model of productivity is simply broken the idea is that I'm going to study productivity, I'm going to try to get some hacks. Some tips some tricks something that will enable me to get more done. But then you ask people why do you want to get more done? And Jodi answer is well, so I can do more as maybe they start out with a twelve hour day, and they shave it down to maybe eight or nine hours, and then they fill it right back up with work. And my premise the premise of my new book free to focus is about how to achieve more by doing less. And that's what I think the key is you've got to be able to figure out how to actually do the high leverage tasks the things that really move your business forward and be able to delegate the rest and build a team. So that you can scale beyond what?.
"michael hyatt" Discussed on The Ziglar Show
"Welcome to the Ziglar show. I'm your host Kevin Miller. This is our habits show. Our mused today is bestselling author and business leader, Michael Hyatt. He was my guest and show six sixty three where we talked through his message and the title of his book free to focus achieve more by doing less. Michael is my I repeat guest who had already done a habit show with us. You can actually see it back in show five seventeen. So in this habits show. I asked him for two things one. Are there any updates to his healthy habits? Anything new and he did talk about Kita genyk diet that he's been working on doing some intermittent fasting hobbies of plane, the native American flute and taking photography but goodness. He just gave some incredible council and each of the seven spokes of Ziglar wheel of life, really great guidance because I really pose to Michael fewer onstage giving sage advice. On the most beneficial habits for each spoke. What what would they be? So as he saw the title show, we got into the topic of constraints and their benefit think of structure and boundaries even guidelines. It's really what I benefited most from hearing. And really you will want to hear what all he has to offer in this show again. Don't miss Michael's new book. That's just been released free to focus. You can get Michael Hyatt dot com, or course, wherever you buy books. Okay. Friends here. Then I bring you Michael Hyatt's best habits for success..