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"michael frankie" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

13:25 min | 1 year ago

"michael frankie" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"You are here and that makes this stuff. They don't want you to know this is. This is a special episode for us Nola one that's very close to your heart We are diving into a genuine mystery today. Right and this is a mystery that may be familiar to some of our listeners in the audience But for some of this may be something completely new spoiler alert. We're not diving alone. But before we introduce our guests knoll. Do you want to give us a little bit of an understanding about this? How sure I sure would been. Thank you for the opportunity. My friend Yeah we just wrapped when I say we. I mean myself our mystery guest today. It's not really a mystery. It's in the Meta data but we're GONNA play Koi for now and Lauren Pacheco. Who's a colleague of Mine Producer from New York? Who I've worked on a previous show called happy face with And this show that we just wrapped as called murder in Oregon and it dives into the Tragic death of Michael Frankie who is the director of Oregon's Department of Corrections In the late eighties nineteen eighty-nine about his late in the eighties. You can get This gentleman Was who was a pillar of the community of very well respected former judge INSTA- very very intelligent and kind man was stabbed to death outside of his office And very quickly. There came to be kind of reckoning where you know. The government needed to pin this on somebody. It wasn't going to go away and A unfortunately as based on our research and the research of our guest today They pinned it on a patsy. Someone who very very clearly didn't do it. But within all of that and that search for the truth is a twisting turning story the likes of you would which you wouldn't believe something more along the lines of true detective than a nonfiction podcast but Again we're not doing this alone today. We have Phil Stanford with us who has been invested in this story for going on thirty years and has just done a massive amount of research and written columns for the Oregonian on this very subject and has really been himself a huge part of this very story Phil. Welcome to stuff. They don't want you to know sir. Thank you very much good to be here. Yeah I don't it's it's such a massive story and we don't want to spoil it for anyone that you know hasn't finished listening to the series yet but how would you kind of characterize this story of murder in Oregon and the death of Michael Frankie what would you say. Some of the main themes are That we kind of touched on in this very very fascinating series will comes in several parts. I mean it was first of all incest nation which no one wanted to acknowledge things like that. Just don't happen in this country let alone a little old Oregon but This Guy Micheal. Frankie had come into the state just about a year before he discovered that his department was rife with corruption. All the way to the top and he was going to reveal it. They had him killed. Well that was the first part of it. The second part was the cover up a really pervasive cover up because so many individuals and institutions in Salem. Even if they weren't involved in the in the murder had so much to cover up goes back to systemic things. I think you know. Just the nature of narcotics law enforcement corrupt the state police for example and the governor had things to cover up so an SAS nation. Cover up a selection of a patsy manufacturer of evidence against a low level tweaker. Who had nothing at all to do with the crime and the insistence since then to this very day by the state that he's still deserve to be punished even know a federal judge has ruled that no reasonable juror would vote to convict. Phil I really WanNa know a in as much basic detail which sounds like an odd phrase but basic detail about the corruption that that Michael uncovered so like what. What were some of the major things that he found out that he felt needed to be told to the public. Okay well first of all And you'll find this just about every prison on the drug trade protected drug trade it for the drug trade to flourish in or out of the prison that has to be protected and it was being protected in the Oregon State Penitentiary. There were a number of scams that the officials had had run for for years including Hanky Panky with animals on the farm. The sale of equipment that belong to the state and so forth. Most recently there had been in a warehouse burned down for arson. It was arson for Insurance Purposes. And he was onto that we refer to it as the H. Ed and we know that he was going to be talking the next day the morning after he was murdered to the legislature about that. We have evidence that he was going to be talking about. The I mean this is all you know while this. This might sound speculative some folks that aren't fully familiar with the story. These are all corroborated by multiple sources. I mean we. We absolutely know that this type of corruption is very very real and Michael uncovered it You know there are various theories about who may or may not have killed. Michael Frankie which is a big. You know the central question to murder in Oregon. It's who really killed Michael Frankie But there is no question that this corruption was rife in the system and that the man that the crime was pinned on almost one thousand percent did not do it. He was like there's no question certainly Among those who might have listened to the podcast or have been doing their own research honest research. But there is still a sizable contingent of the local press and government. That would argue that there was no corruption. They will not accept that from the beginning. That was the problem. They could not accept the idea. That Michael Frankie might have been murdered because he was investigating. Corruption was about ready to blow the whistle on some of his top officials from the beginning. They said the official version was that it was a car burglary. That had gone bad and one thing. That's interesting about this fill is into some preparatory research. I found that you had devoted no less than eighty columns to the murder right when when working with the Oregonian and I get this sense and tell me if I'm wrong here but I get the sense that for For at least part of the time you were in In some sense alone speaking truth to power Bringing up these various things that the authorities Apparently willfully ignored. Did you ever feel like you were in a banging my head against the wall situation or did you feel that the authorities were listening or did you feel that they were actively trying to push this car burglary narrative and do you think that they they genuinely thought it was true or do you think they were? You know as you said earlier. No Tempting to just close some case combination hard to read their minds. What they're thinking that I I was not entirely. I was alone at my newspaper. The OREGONIAN which was the big dog in Oregon at the time I was writing. A column for them was a featured columnist. But there were other reporters in Salem Steve Jackson Eric Mason on on on TV. Who were following the story too. But I I was. I was certainly alone in the paper and and because the Oregonian was such a a big force in Oregon I was sort of the point man on the thing as far as the authorities were concerned. The governor after about six months of my columns a held a press conference and said where is this garbage coming from another interview? He called it the s he. He really what I couldn't figure out why he was resisting so strenuously just come into office. And if there was corruption he could very well blame it on his his predecessor. And say let's let's get to the bottom of it but he didn't as far as the state cops who were conducting the investigation in the DA's office in in in Marion County. I think from the beginning. They knew they had to cover something up. Once they realized where this thing was going especially they they they may have been hoping from the beginning that it was random car burglary but once they realize the connections which we talk about in in murder in Oregon too officials who are engaged in any illegal activities. They knew they could not Pursuant honest investigation and had to get traffic. It's true and we discuss all of that and then we kind of leave it up to the listener to sort of make up their minds. What we present all of this evidence and what you realize if you're paying attention as it just doesn't add up. You mentioned the idea of a car. Burglary gone wrong. And that was sort of the narrative that the the state police in the the government large really pushed this idea. That Michael was leaving his office and Encountered somebody rifling through his car. They they use the I love this delightfully regional term Jockey boxing. Which had never heard before but I really liked a lot. The idea of rifling through somebody's glovebox and Michael. Frankie was a very tall very fit man. really imposing stature I don't know his exact height but I think he was six feet something and very you know in shape in play basketball and you know was a very active guy and You know the the notion that he came upon somebody rifling through his car who then gave him a single stab. Kill shot to the heart in addition to a defensive wound. It's very hard to believe. And even court like when they tried to set up the scenario of the angles and all of that of how he would have had to be stabbed. If the guy was sitting in the car the angles didn't add up. And can you talk a little bit about that about how some of those narratives that were pushed even in the trial just didn't really make sense? Well you know nothing about the case made much sense. That's that's the thing that there was no physical evidence to start with connecting Frank Gable. That's the guy. They eventually indicted for the crime. There was no evidence that Frank Gable was there I mean no physical evidence. All they really had was when it came down to it was manufactured evidence of a bunch of jailbirds ex-cons who had potential sentences hanging over their heads for serious time for federal gun charges in federal drug charges. The Gotham to make up stories and in the end they got a couple of young could seventeen year old runaway girl and then a tough guy named shorty hardened to say that they had been there and had seen it happen. Jodie swearing in the seventeen year. Old Girl event around away before a trial could be held and said this. I had to make it up. Make make the story short. He hardened the other supposed eyewitness did testify but his testimony contradicted other testimony on there had been a janitor who'd come out and seen something happened in front of the the office building to building as it's called had no reason to lie and shorty hardens testimony completely contradicted what the janitor had said so they were not only contradictions like that but Frank Gables lawyer was so bad he didn't even bother or maybe even think to bring it up at the trial it was. It was a farce. It's interesting I mean I. It's he was so bad to the point where you have to think there was some intention behind it and again. That's not something anyone has you know actual proof of but it just makes it just makes no sense. He shouldn't have gotten the case. We talked about that in the show where you know there was an investigator we talked to who I believe was the investigator for Francs Defense Who just didn't feel like this lawyer? Bob Able Was the last person that would have gotten this this this case and he didn't even have a phone..

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"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

Murder in Oregon

05:00 min | 1 year ago

"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

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"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

Murder in Oregon

11:00 min | 1 year ago

"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

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That's friends without the our best fiends Dodd's former drug partner and cellmate eight. Greg Kelsey Johnson also linked Natividad to the murder. Here's the reporter. He spoke to the Willamette week's Nigel J. Ques- so to bring Johnson contacted me from a local jail. He was in jail Mona Chason County and he said that he had information about who really killed. Michael Frankie and how. I was skeptical. As you would be side I would go. He said enough to make me willing go see him and I went saw him and he had enough information and enough specific details in a good enough story that I think went. So I'm four times and he. He essentially told me that he had an association with a the orange. Salem Tim Natividad Johnson told Jake West that Natividad not only asked Johnson to drive them to the Dome Building. The night of Mike's murder but later also claimed to have driven him to pick up an envelope of cash from a department of Corrections official and Jake was found Johnson believable in that many other aspects of his story checked out. I hear a huge trove of documents at that time. Johnson was in those documents. Those were police reports awesome interview transcripts and the defense attorneys files. Johnson said I. Could I could corroborate lease was Natividad girlfriend at the time also finds Johnson story plausible. I bought it personally. Did I believe they were friends or drug impertinence. They were buddies and she confirms that Natividad came into a substantial amount of money after Frankie's murder tell me where the money came from but he did come into money. We later found out that he hid in my bathroom. The apartment were Tim Dykes He. Hit the fan of the bathroom. There was a story that Tim's brother other got forty thousand dollars out of the bathroom. Bit of Tim's money sister. Karen is the one that cleaned my apartment when I went to jail in carrying goes. It's so weird bliss the Apartment Manager Commandments. Yell at me for taking part the bathroom event and I said I didn't do it. You know you leave me alone. I'm not taking the apartment apart. I'm getting with US things out of here. My call putting together. That was a true story. Tim Natividad died in violent domestic dispute. Just two weeks. After Mike's murder but his name has remained linked to the crime for the past three decades very notably by Conrad Garcia. Uh the inmate Kevin. Frankie met with at a Portland. Halfway House said that he felt guilty. That Mike was dead that he could have prevented edited if he'd opened his mouth sooner and he started crying and I started crying to see him crying and he apologized nice to me that he didn't stop it. You said your brother was a good man. And he shouldn't have died. I could have prevented it. Didn't I said how could you have prevented it. And he said what I told the police that everything that I could have told him. I knew specifically the Tim Natividad wanted me to kill Mike. Frankie not just a big guy with corrections it was specifically Mike Frankie. It would prove just one of the many unusual tips from many unusual sources. Kevin has received over the years Another would come via a mysterious package delivered to the Frankie family. Salem based Attorney Steve Classic says they are just got a package delivered delivered to my office and I drive down there and open it up in. There's a letter there. Handwritten is said. I knew your brother was killed because because he knew too much news stepping on the wrong toes and things like this. I think I know who did it but I can't prove who did it but I might be able to help point you in the right direction and get should the information because I was involved with these people and if you want to know more about it than you'll meet me at the Holiday Inn Casino In Reno Nevada Friday at three o'clock if you're not there than better Serov will never talk to you again and critic says you're not going to that area and I said God I got to Steve and he says you're not going onto that. This sounds like fish bay. You're going down there. You're just put a buck and bullying your head. I had the whole thing the Fed the XFL open. I took it home and I remember talking to fill Stafford reading the letter to him and stuff like that over the phone. Yeah he told me about this and we were both aware that it could be a complete setup. They tried to kill him before it was just too obvious that This could be another example of it. I know he how nervous he was. And of course I I was nervous too. And I'm looking at the Fedex envelope and I flip it over canoes and address on the back of the envelope that is reverse printed that I can see if I hold it up sideways and I write the address down on and I get a Atlas Map for Reno and there's a street address for this thing in Reno and it's got at his apartment number in the street address and I think this is the son of a bitch instead of meeting at the Holiday Inn. Now I know where I need to go meet with them and and borrowed a A White Eldorado convertible and Lesin. I took off for Reno and went down to an apartment. Liz Liz waited outside. I said you know. Give me fifteen minutes and come up or call the cops. Kevin went upstairs his hand hand hovering over his gun and I went knocked on the door and the door opened up in this guy was standing there and he was about five ten attend in kind of a barrel chested and forty each and I said are you. Jr and he said Yeah Eh. Said I'm Kevin Frankie and he leaned back and he started to reach around and I pulled my gun out. I said don't you can move. And he says I'm just getting my coat. Mogo down to the lobby and talk and I said I'll get your coat and I shut the door and got his coat Mitchell. He didn't have a gun and we went down to the lobby and talked. Jr told Kevin. He was a former reserve sheriff's deputy and claimed certain correction officials were actively involved in drug running and prostitution rings. Jr said he moonlit as a security guard at a gated home overlooking Reno and that Michael Gulf ranking had visited that house once with Scott. mcallister is that. I was running outside security. I was allowed to come into the house except for breaker to use the bathroom. And I remember walking by and I could see in the windows were Kinda tended because it looks out onto the lake and the lake reflects reflects backup onto the thing I hear lake in house in security Everything started Like a no show Jane. Jane was the psychic. Kevin visited the one who described a house on a lake where his brother's killers were discussing his murder. Jr claimed to have witnessed a confrontation one night involving all. Think Frankie and a group of men I can hear him yelling at your brother. It was like that before you got here. It'll be like that when they drag you out of here and mcallister closer was behind your brother. Look like he was either restraining him or holding arm and there was a lot of anger in there and I had to keep moving given because I couldn't stop. That would make him suspicious. But I think there's something there that you need to look at after through the meeting with JR Kevin. Liz drove to that house which Jane the Psychic had described in detail down to the gates that surrounded it from the house deck. You can look at and see the lake in the house on the lake with video cameras and the Iron Gates and there's two guys in a pickup pickup truck. One guy gets out. And he's got a muddled ninety four winchester and he comes walking over to the car and he he says. Can I help you and I said well. I'm from Oregon. I was looking for property for sale. And he says. Do you see any fucking for sale signs and I said no and so I said well look if anything comes up for sale would you mind giving me a call. And I hand him a business card and it was one of Mike's Business cards guys from the Department of Corrections and he looks at it. They looks at me and he starts walking backwards to the track and very quickly he goes up and he has the Buzzer houser. And he's on the phone and get out of there. Kevin believes that that was the house. Michael Frankie had gone to visit on the ill-fated ski trip the one he abruptly returned from shaken up later his head. How's the snow and he said I'd never got on the hill and I said what do you mean he says I never got on the fucking hill and that was who did not want to talk about it? He did start saying I've gotTA head of replaced people start surrounding myself with people that I can trust..

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"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

Murder in Oregon

01:34 min | 1 year ago

"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

"For thirty years. Now the murder of Michael Frankie has cast a dark shadow over the state of Oregon and it's institutions. He was a good and decent man. A former prosecutor and judge hired just the year before or to serve as director of the state's Corrections Department and he was stabbed to death on the night of January Seventeenth Nineteen eighty-nine outside the office building where he worked in Salem known as the Dome building much of what happened. That night remains a mystery. Frank Gable a twenty nine year. Old petty thief in small-time drug dealer was arrested for the murder about a year later journalist and author Phil Stanford has been investigating the Frankie murder for three decades. It was not an accident it was not a car burglary gone. Dad is a public official who discovered corruption in his own and department. Heads are GONNA roll. He was about ready to demote or fire some of his his top aides. He'd already gotten rid of one. A lawyer who'd I've been working there for over a decade the night before he was to address the Legislative Committee on this very subject. He was stabbed in the heart in front of the building. In pro he worked. It was a cover up from the beginning. They couldn't afford to even look at the people who might have done it so they selected a patsy and they made up the evidence against him put him on trial and got a conviction. Sounds.

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"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

Murder in Oregon

04:04 min | 1 year ago

"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

"His wealthy and powerful friends stuck with him. They even gave him a party hardy to make him feel better. After the stories were first published which sickened me and made her cry. People continue to cover up up and not say what they knew because they had benefited from their ties to this powerful man who rewarded people kept a secret in my opinion and in her opinion opinion the fact remains Neil. Goldschmidt was only allowed to abuse Elizabeth Donham because multiple people around him. Were willing to look the other way. Some of them were indebted to him. Others had their own transgressions to hide. Here's Nigel Jaquith again. And I think the answer to why that could remain secret for so long as the influence on the power that Goldschmidt wielded so he had many proteges. Rotich as as I mentioned governor Cuomo Gosse was one but there are many who Marin states utilities he was close to everybody who mattered in Oregon and most of them were people who owed him something and who had risen with him so they both had a reason that they owed him something not to divulge hold his secret but they also I think perhaps in a more interesting fashion would be admitting something about themselves if the person to whom they owed so much was shown to be this flawed criminal. If you know essentially a child rapist what I would say about them if the person that gave them their starter or help their careers was a terrible person. Phil has another take. If as we know now all these people knew about it there were some who certainly didn't have goldsmiths best interests at heart that wanted to use him or to put it another way blackmail with this information and in fact. That's what I think is is probably the best explanation for why he was resisting. Any decent investigation of the Frankie murder at the time law enforcement the state police would have known about it. In fact I I think the Portland City police knew about the girl back when he was mayor is driver was signed by police intelligence. There's a reason why police departments do this So they report back on. What the mayor's doing in fact we know that the driver would drive past the girl's House and Blink the lights signal yes. Of course the Portland police knew it. And there's no reason to believe that they wouldn't have used it against him get raises to to get whatever they want so here he is. He's governor and once again his driver his security man Bernie Giusto. It's an officer with the state. Police do we really believe he wasn't reporting back to his bosses and there was something else one more thing that has come out That that came out in the press and was all over the newspapers at the same time. And this probably explains Twi Goldsmith was separating from his wife. At the time the driver was having an affair with Goldschmidt wife a great deal of publicity on that state police officer Sir who was his personal driver was also having an affair with goal Schmitz wife. Yes I mean. He's he's talked about it with me. He told me that Goldschmidt Wife told him that Goldschmidt was negotiating with the girl and her lawyers to keep your mouth shut. I also spoke with her roommate. Roommate and roommate told me that during this time Elizabeth would call down to the governor's Office get Goldschmidt on the phone and scream you write me you owe me. There was pressure on Goldsmith. Keep a lid on at this time. And would that have been the same time as the Michael Frankie Murder Investigation.

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"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

Murder in Oregon

08:57 min | 1 year ago

"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

"After a ceremonial came back and destroyed every but it was all stuff that we could reassembled when we called her back and stand but for some reason bob able refuse to put jody back on the stand. He just didn't want to mess. Also I don't Wanna put her back up. She's too dangerous. We could have resolved a lot of things Sarah did. And you're kind of reconstructed her testimony testimony which was very important in doing and from that point on I didn't have the feeling that he threw the case but he just gave up on it. Here's newspaper newspaper reporter. Steve Jackson's take on Jodi. So I think that. She was being truthful when she retracted retracted. Her statement to the police did make sense and there are some parts that I felt that defense attorney should have been able to turn on that with You know the timing. I mean you know. She puts supposedly left the scene with made a phone call and then came back to the scene and witnessed dogs. She would have had been a world. Class Sprinter Sprinter to actually bit into that time line. But the defense never brought it up Phil Stanford thanks defense may have been more than just incompetent incompetent able. He did such a bad job. That missing you can say about him is that he was incompetent but it was more than that is an interesting question yesterday. At the time he was given this case his business was going down the tubes. He was desperate for a job and he was handed one. That was very very lucrative here so it's worthwhile considering the possibility that the case was thrown as far as I'm concerned but as shocking as the defenses seeming inability to challenge and properly cross examined witnesses like hon soccer harden and swearing Jenn. It's the fact that Gabel who vehemently wanted to testify was never given the chance that still haunts lead defense investigator Tom McCallum. So I kind of controlled all witnesses. I had witnessed all set up in at the end of our case Dr Specials one of our last witnesses and we had several order. Wins coming up. That are gonNA have frank testify. You've doctor Spitzer right back at lunch break to the Portland airport and it was wall. McCallum was driving that witness back to the airport that the defense abruptly rested shocking many including McCallum. mammary way back at a coffee fill saying what the hell's going on. So what do you mean. What are you guys rested? Miss you talking to them. We can't arrest you. Thanks going to testify wins to set up this afternoon. I Guess Bob took advantage of the fact that I was gone. Recipe case that surprise me and net we had things needed to be addressed and said and witnesses saying I guess they lost a little bit of hope with that reporter Steve Jackson John When the defense rested it was clear. Gable wasn't actually being defended. It didn't happen in fact the defense folded and closed its case taste in so short time. How's it was just pretty shocking? Tell you the truth. Is that you know. I've seen defenses before where they don't even present anything but usually that's because the state cases so ridiculous that you know they just go to closing they say someone that but in this case I thought there was an opportunity to at least this cast reasonable doubt on the state case as presented and In gone from there but There was just little to nothing. I'm there is a couple of expert. Witnesses some witnesses recanting But it was just it was kind of over and done and you're sitting there wondering wondering what about the time line. What about the things that don't make sense? What about Michael Frankie and You know the situation around his house and What about some of these other things things? Like the spent riot gun shells littering Frankie's back deck or the pistol found under his pillow or for that he was teaching his wife to shoot but even with all the defenses missteps with resting prematurely. Without letting gable. Take the stand there there was still no physical evidence linking Frank Gable to the crime. Here's local reporter Eric Mason. There was no one there to provide the glue to to put it all together to basically say to the jury. There's not a hair. There's not a fiber. There's not a drop of blood odd. That ties Frank Gable to any of this. It just wasn't there those who've us who understood the story thought to ourselves ourselves man. There's just not enough evidence here except for some inmates convicted and professional liars to come forward word and tell these stories about Frank Gable and about his admissions. There's nothing there that holds this together and the prosecution. It hasn't met its burden of proof in the eyes of everyone who had been there to study case and Mason wasn't alone in believing the state hadn't proved guilt beyond the reasonable doubt. I think ninety nine percent of the porter's knew that he was not the right guy as the jury is deliberating. We did take a straw poll as is reporters and all of us. But one believe that Frank Gable should be acquitted of the crime. There was not enough there to convict him of stabbing Michael Frankie. It was just a lack of evidence of any kind that tied him to the scene. Even the defense is lead investigator. Tom McCallum thought Gable would be acquitted quitted in fact when the verdict came back down and Franken Markham up. You scared didn't WanNA come up in. Here's the verdict. Nine only down for about half an hour and I hadn't Acuras Norwick find you guilty. And that's the way I felt out but McCallum would be proved wrong after less than twenty four hours of deliberation the jury unanimously found Gable guilty of murdering Michael. Oh Frankie he was found guilty of six counts of aggravated murder and one count of murder. He was sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. Here's Kevin when they announced guilty. I've never heard a quieter quiet in my life talking with reporters reality T. News. That was there. She looked at me. She said my God that could have been released UPMAN. Frank able share to shock that he was found guilty everybody everyone. Here's Eric Mason. When the verdict was announced what went through your head complete shock in that twelve people could arrive at that conclusion based on two deputy district attorneys? Who made that case? And basically these convicts who came and told these stories and we all just kinda shook. Our aheads went. Okay well I guess we just go out and report what just happened Phil still grapples with that day. What gets me he is that they knew what they done? They knew that the absolutely made up a case against a man who wasn't even there they they were smart enough to know that. There's there's some they were smart enough to know how they did it. All these lie detector tests all this manufactured testimony and then not only do they get a conviction on the basis of this phony evidence they ask for the death penalty and they came close to getting it. Oh yeah they did I think it was ten to two. Why do you think they would have wanted him dead? Do you think it's safe to assume that it's because a case would have died with gable. Would've yeah I think you're right. They're willing to kill him. I I'm concerned. That's about as evil as you can get and on the next murder in Oregon another uncovered bomb shell that was kept from Gables. Trial she overheard the conversation. The Scots is supposed to look like a suicide. She now comes forward. It was a burden off of his back. That Michael was dead. Yes connecting a by now familiar name to the murder. Michael Frankie and he relishes the misery that he brings. uh-huh absolutely.

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"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

Murder in Oregon

09:25 min | 1 year ago

"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

"So with his defense woefully unprepared and without an apparent game plan gables. Trial began on May First Nineteen nineteen ninety one and as the prosecution rested Tom McCallum found himself coordinating the initial witnesses for the defense and one of his first Phil Stanford to share the story about Mark Gesner the inmate. He'd interviewed who claimed he'd been approached to fabricate testimony against Gable in exchange for leniency. I wrote a column about that and for all the good it did because the state went ahead and called him as a prosecution witness when it came time for trial. I was sitting at my desk at the Oregonian. Got A call from Tom. McCallum and He said can you come down and testify tomorrow. We're starting in our case and we're ready to go. Did He. Explain that you said has been out drinking. We haven't put together a case. And in fact as I learned later he and another investigator had been tweeting to get her. The opening presentation for the defense on on. This thing is incredible so I went down there and I testified. I don't think I did a particularly good job. But it was completely out of order there. There was there was no context. I talked about the interview I'd had with Gassner and I talked about the column I'd written in which he said he was going to make up his testimony and that was that and who did he say was coercing his testimony. Oh as he told me down when he was in jail The state police were trying to get him to say that Gable had confessed to him and he said he didn't man. But you know everybody's got look out for himself and that's what I said for all all the good dead right but even with the defenses rocky start initially bill and the other journalists covering the case thought it would be an uphill title battle for the prosecution with their rag tag assortment of witnesses. Here's local television reporter. Eric Mason I think all of us realize realized there was nothing really the connected Frank Gable to this crime and that the people who had told the story that end had become informants and stitches against Frank Gable. They were all professional. Hires they were all people who'd made serious serious big deals before their lives with prosecutors and understood the system the way it worked Steve Jackson believes the sketchy witnesses. And complete lack of physical evidence linking gable to the murder should have worked in gables. Favor had he been properly defended. I just didn't feel that the defense attorneys were we're on the same level as the prosecutors but as witnesses I think for either side they would just been you know problematic because you put him up there and you can go at them and say you know what crimes have been convicted of in the past and have you ever lied on the stand and have you changed your story back and forth door believability and You know your integrity fell agrees. The the state had no physical evidence their whole case their whole case rested on these so-called material witnesses whose testimony they had it's now clear manufactured using lie detector tests primarily until the These jailbirds next cons and teenage runaways runaways got their stories straight. They figured out what the cops wanted him to say and eventually several of them did enough to put on the stand but that's what their case was and it seems that they're witnesses all had something to lose by not testifying and something to gain. Oh yeah in. In in some cases as with guests ner They were threatening to charge him with Other more serious crimes and and made a deal for that and with others others They threaten to tie them into into them. So yeah they made up stories and state put them on and able was not capable of demonstrating how inconsistent and ultimately a manufactured these stories where it became clear that the state was leveraging and shaping testimony and using polygraphs lie light detector tests to do it several of the witnesses all of them in with when they started out with say Yeah Gables a drug dealer. UH-HUH I don't like him Nothing about the murder but then they would say you're We know you're lying. They give another one. They were given multiple tests. Jordy was even given twenty-three three lie detector tests which is unheard of and Overtime they would figure out what the cops would accept the truth because they they were also being threatened with being charged with other crimes. Or even being drawn into the Frankie murder but even the state's most reputable Witness Hunt Soccer. The maintenance man at the Dome building seemed to present shaped testimony during the trial the original statement he made regarding the two men he he claimed to see the night. Michael Frankie was murdered seemed altered to fit the states narrative. Here's Kevin Frankie grabbing run soccer. His story story change from what he told me before the trial he went from his discussion with me from math to my ears that the guy that turned around and went back to the Dome building was rocking. Like he didn't have any place to go. He wasn't in a hurry. He was crouched he wasn't holding his chest he wasn't stumbling. It was just walking like he didn't have no place to go into effect and his testimony at trial was Eh. He walked briskly back up to the North Portico veterans. Those two big changes and hon soccer's testimony. He also contradicted the story that the state was hedging their case on testimony from their star witness drug dealing career criminals. Shorty Harden remember that name. That's the same. Shorty Harden who ran with Tim Natividad. The Guy with the van Carry Rothschild mentioned multiple times uncover. The janitor said. He walked out of the building was looking at these. Two figures one turned around and ran away to the west and the other walked back to the Dome building but he would have been looking straight at the spot where sure. He said he had parked his car. He didn't see a car short. He said he started started up the car after he saw Michael. Frankie gets stabbed. Hunts Acre would've seen and heard that seem to car racing away and there were other contradictions. Israel which able did not have the wherewithal to point. Yeah and it seems to me that hun soccer or hunt Saker was the the only one on the stand who didn't have anything to gain or lose of these crime scene witnesses. Yes that's for sure. But yet his his testimony changed slightly from the statements he had made immediately after the murder. Will Eric Mason. I went down down and talk to him shortly after the murder and He said that the man who walked back to the building walk back in sort of a leisurely manner Leisurely is the word. Would I put in my notes at the time. And by the time the state had him on the stand he said he was walking back briskly. Things like that yeah. Shorty Harden took the stand and told the same story he told the grand jury. Shorty claimed when he picked showed up. He saw frank cable in the car across from him. Apparently Michael Frankie approached there were blaring contradiction to Hans Hackers testimony who claimed to only see two men never mentioned another vehicle pulling up seeing a woman or hearing that loud exchange but the defense never challenged the discrepancies. Here's Kevin shortage. Georgia was obviously making the story that Bob Able didn't jump on. You never ask tons soccer. Did you hear or see shorty. Cardin's is car coming into the parking lot at this time. Did you hear or see. Shorty Harden pull up and the car door open and Jodi Jodi get out. Did you hear or see Frank Gable wrestling in the car with Mike Frank. Did you hear Mike Frankie yell out as has already testified. Hey what are you doing in my car. Never ask them those questions but I asked him those questions and he said no there were no other cars. There were no were there there. There were no engines run it definitely quite astounding. And that's when I knew Franklin.

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"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

Murder in Oregon

01:30 min | 1 year ago

"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

"Business Join me as well and my co host. Kara price as we will you through the true revolution immobility ability that will change the way we interact with the world around us. Join US here. Just how close we are getting to a more connected future. This time tomorrow is is now available on the iheartradio APP or wherever you listen to podcasts. Murderer and Oregon is the production of iheartradio. Frank Gable has found himself himself a key figure in the Michael Frankie murder investigation. He says he didn't do it. He says he's being setup so scared More than a year after Michael Frankie staff. The state was now fully focused on Frank Gable as the sole suspect in his murder. Something else scares gable able to he says some of the members of his old drug ring have shown up in the Coups County jail. He's not sure why but he thinks that has something to do with Frankie's murder as well I. I think I might have walked into something that I'm known aware of last year and I think it's involved behind drugs gable all who maintained his innocence was indicted and arrested for Frankie's murder in April of nineteen ninety but he was about to receive another blow. The defense attorney assigned signed to his case. Bob Able there. Were some good lawyers in Salem but to be as blunt as possible able was not one of them. If I was GONNA pick an attorney to town lack case.

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"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

Murder in Oregon

09:33 min | 1 year ago

"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

"Another key takeaway from that memo to Goldschmidt. Goldschmidt was the idea that an FBI investigation wasn't exactly welcomed by the Oregon state government. I know from my own interviews at the time the FBI was interested in getting into this. They didn't make it public but certainly Goldschmidt and his people knew it and they did not want the FBI to investigate corruption down. There was there resistance to the FBI stepping into the investigation. It's how to get rid of this problem. It is also possible that you could get federal assistance but I believe it is crucial not to turn this into an FBI investigation if you went any assurance that it will stay within the bounds arms. You have set if you want any assurance that it will stay within the bounds. You have sat. What does that mean? Well it meant something to the person who's writing the memo and it meant something to Goldschmidt even when we finally got this memo When it finally became public public it wasn't clear what were the bounds that Goldsmith had set? What were his reasons for not wanting an investigation? That's that's the question. It sounds sounds like he wanted something contained and then eight months later in April of nineteen ninety seemingly out out of nowhere. A small time drug dealer from Salem named Frank Gable is arrested and charged with the murder of Michael. Frankie Frank Gable has found himself a key figure in the Michael Frankie murder investigation. He says he didn't do it. He is currently serving a year sentence in the coups county. Jail for assaulting his wife life but others say he's done much worse than beat his wife Might Kieron's convict from the Idaho State Penitentiary Claims Frank Gable told him he killed Frankie during during a car burglary. Remember at this point Jonny Krause had already confessed. Knowledge of the murder recanted his confession and and was granted immunity to not recant. His recantation Liz. God love also had gone to the police with her belief. Tim Natividad was the man the pinstripe suit and could have killed Frankie only to have them laugh and say they couldn't convict a dead man Frank Gables name came out of nowhere even to the three journalists most heavily involved in the case Phil Stanford TV reporter. Eric Mason and Steve Jackson at the Statesman Journal. Here's Jackson Gable wasn't on my radar at all at that time at by. I just time I was already having difficulties with the way the investigation was handled. And Jackson found the arrest of gable oddly convenient for the the police the only one that was really pursued was the easy one for the please Basan some guy who had basically no support no money. We know friends people going to turn on him. He was sort of an outsider even cut group. He was an easy target us. An easy target with with not many resources sources to call on to protect themselves. Here's fills take the time. No one knew what to think I mean Gabel was a completely new name out there and all of a sudden the state police are promoting him as their prime suspect even now now. It's something of a mystery how they picked him and it appears that it all happened in about may of eighty nine just as krause was does this appearing as a suspect this is when cross started talking about possible connections to corrections officials. Gable was out so clearly confused S.. Two what was happening to him and struggled to articulate. What is accusers could possibly gain by pinning the murder on him here? He is at an interview at the time of his arrest. They believe it's because a lot of people like Kerns and several other. Inmates are jumping on the bandwagon thinking. Well we can get our charges dropped. You know. Point the finger gable. We'll get get our charges job so my name keeps coming up. The Mike Cairns Gable spoke of in that interview was another of Salems usual usual suspects who happened to be at the Marion county lockup. When police arrested Gable he was the first in our rogues gallery of criminals used to try and tie gable? The killing was the first one to go public and say that Gable had confessed to him he would later go public and say he made off which of course he did. That's how it got started. And then they State police started finding other so-called witnesses who would say that gable confessed to them but according to gable he had a solid alibi and one. That didn't exactly xactly paint him. As a saint he claimed to be busily committing an entirely different crime. At the time of Mike's Murder I was a friend of mine's house named Chris. Real real os with him and two other girls. I didn't leave my home. I believe until at least eight o'clock that night and I went from there to a friend of mine's house and delivered some drugs and then went to his house and spent the rest of that evening there and came home about five that morning so fifty two days away from finishing a sentence for an unrelated domestic abuse charge Frank Gable now feared he was going to be charged with with Michael Frankie's murder been so scared each day. You don't know if you're getting out fifty two days or if you're going to get put the death penalty for a crime. You didn't commit you know so. Yeah I'm scared more scared I've ever been in my life. I believe that I walked into a complicated drug. Bring in really. Don't know how complicated it was until now and it will get even more complicated and even more perplexing there was never never any physical evidence linking gable to the murder his cellmates false accusation along with the testimony from characters entwined and Salems underworld were the only quote unquote evidence. The police had to go on. who were the people who came forward as the state's witnesses Well they did not come forward that the police selected them and help them manufacture the stories. They wanted using lie detector tests. That's one of the more remarkable things about about about this case than other way lie detector tests were used to shake testimony the two star witnesses for the state from the beginning where Jodi swinging the engine and shorty hardened. Jody was a seventeen year old runaway. Who'd been in and out of Hillcrest? The girls school certainly certainly part of the weaker scene there. Shorty hardens names. Come up before. He was friends with Tim Natividad. They ran in the same drug dealing circle. Yes they did business together. Shorty and Jodi would become the state star witnesses Lincoln Gabel to the murder after twenty-three polygraphs grass. It took them that long to get Jodi to tell the story they wanted. Jodi story was that Gable had by the way she hadn't net until about six months later had driven her to the building that night and while she was at the Dome building she called Shorty to come pick corrupt. They didn't have cell phones in those days so she had to walk a distance to a payphone. which the police were? By the way we're never able to find or dente fi and and The story is that Just before the murder occurred shirty drove up in his Mustang parked there. Jody got into his car. Shorty said he saw Frankie coming out of the Though don't building yelling at Gable who was in the car at the time he got to the car gable. Lunged out of the car and stabbed Frankie. Shorty said he started his car and in and Jodi drove off into the night. The state didn't seem to mind signed the version. Jody and shorty settled upon contradicted the account of the only eyewitness on record Wayne Hunt Sacher the maintenance man who had seen scene two men interacting night frankie was murdered. They put all these made up witnesses in front of the grand jury including jody I and a shortage of course in fact they even allowed jody shortly to meet privately in a room before the grand jury so they can get their stories straight and they did and the testified that they had been there at the don't building on the night of the murder and seeing the murder testimony at then coerced. They threatened her. She finally came up with the story that she was present when he stabbed. Michael Frankie Shorty was is a local tough guy. Done business with Tim Natividad he was deeply entrenched in in the Salem on underworld made multiple deals with the cops along the way and they got him to testify against Gable to and Kevin says great effort went into bringing shorty heart and an Dan and getting.

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"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

Murder in Oregon

02:37 min | 1 year ago

"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

"So I turned into Sean and a bunch and I can't believe it to be honest with. I can't believe it happened. I can't believe I didn't die. I actually shot him and two weeks after Michael Frankie's murder Tim Natividad. Ed was dead at Liz's trial. Her attorneys admitted multiple records of domestic abuse into evidence and several love. The cops who arrested Tim during those disturbances showed up to testify. Also on the stand was Liz's neighbor. who heard the sounds of Tim's violent went and abusive behavior firsthand? Oh my neighbor next door to us. I never met her in my life. Listen to it all night and all morning so she was there which was a shock to me and no idea she was on the stand and said I heard him clearly beat her that night and until her who was going to kill her killer family. I heard the gunshots. I heard it all before the trial. Liz spent spent three months in jail. But compared to the hell she'd been trapped in it was almost an escape ultimately I was acquitted. Thank God it just all came together. I talked to myself I looked at the jury and I said you know my attorneys can help. Tell the story. This is is how I lived. This is my proof. The restraining orders the police officers my friends and family women's crisis center. I mean I did everything they gotta was acquitted or my God God. I remember that day I was so oh free but I did still cry for a year because Tim had to die over all this. I cried Craig per year although I had my son and I wanted to be stable and I tried to be strong and stable for him had to get it out of my system and I went to my priest and confessed that I shot and killed him to save my life and he said that God forgives me. I felt really good. I ran into several of Tim's family members after this and they helped me tight and told me you that they understood to me. Had some anger issues and drug problems.

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"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

Murder in Oregon

03:35 min | 1 year ago

"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

"And sometime after that is when someone supposedly taps Tim Natividad to have one of his prison connections. Kill Michael Frankie while out on a pass. Here's Kevin the idea that they would get somebody out of the joint to do. The murder seems a little overwhelming. I guess to the average person but you have to realize that you know guys like mcallister. CALLISTER had been in and out of that prison thousands of times and had a key to every passageway every booby hatch in in the entire joint and there's hundreds of them and he was very familiar and very comfortable in prison and for years. You've been able to have this this relationship with some of the inmates that you'd be able to profit from those relationships so it has no stretch of the imagination that if you want somebody to commit mid a criminal act where would you go to the farm that grows the criminal acts but the prison and that you could take that person out and they had had the perfect Galibier to commit the crime and get back in and who's GonNa be the wiser so he had access to let anybody in or out that he wanted at any time you could go in and out at his leisure and he could take anybody out with them at his leisure and take him back at his leisure. Sounds like a pretty foolproof alibi. By if people think you're in prison and two pretty good alibi. Even if that were the case in terms of Conrad Garcia none of that would have been necessary because Garcia was already scheduled to be paroled the week before my Frankie Nice murdered. It was almost a little too convenient. Conrad felt like he was getting set up and he he got scared so he got himself into trouble that got him putting the whole just a few weeks before the murder he was going to be the guy years after Michael's murder when the theories regarding Tim Natividad and Scott. mcallister began to emerge. Kevin wanted to speak to Conrad Garcia face to face to confirmed the things he'd heard so we tracked him down at a halfway house in Portland. I went up there and asked the guy liked me. Conrad see it and he. When you're my name is that I don't know if he wants to talk to you because I know what you're here And he went and talked to Conrad and Conrad came out and he said let's go sit down. I got some things to tell you. You know you expect a pretty rough character but he seemed like a very muscular and a Bob obviously bid on in the weight room a lot. He said that he felt guilty. That Mike was dead that he could have prevented if if he'd opened his mouth sooner and he started crying and I started crying to see him crying and he apologized to me that he didn't stop it. He said you're a good man and he shouldn't have died and I could have prevented. I didn't I said how could you have prevented it. And he said would. I told the police everything that I could have told them. I I knew specifically that Tim Natividad wanted me to kill Mike. Frankie not just a big guy with corrections it whoa specifically.

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"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

Murder in Oregon

05:56 min | 1 year ago

"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

"Nigel J quiz is a Pulitzer Prize winning investigative investigative reporter who writes for the Willamette Week in Portland. He's a tall lean man with a direct intellectual way about him that mirrors his meticulous reporting in two thousand seven Natividad drug. Buddy Greg Johnson reached out to Ni- Joel from Portland jail claiming to have information about. Who Killed Michael Frankie I was skeptical as you would be. But he said enough to make me willing to go see him and he had enough information Russian enough specific details and a good enough story that I think I went and saw him four times. He said that he had often served as muscle. Missile or backup for that he would come to drug deals with a gun. And sort of be the enforcer and Natividad had asked him to drive him to the office. Wherever Mike are Frank was killed? It's called the Dome Building. And that he later picked Natividad up and it also had driven him to another location in Salem. Subsequently the data received an envelope full of cash and the man Johnson claims deliver that envelope of cash in Oregon Department of Corrections official and and not just any official actually the warden at the Oregon State prison which was then the largest prison in the state so his story was fit into a narrative. errative that many people had speculated about which was that Frankie's murder was not a car pro gun bad as it has been portrayed by law enforcement but was a contract killing work straighted by corrupt prison officials. who were threatened by Micra Frankie eastbound a story plausible plausible again? I couldn't prove it because key players are dead so the question was. What did Greg Johnson have to gain gain by coming forward with the story when I talked to him he was facing twenty year sentence and his stated motivation was in the nineteen eighties in Nineteen eighty-six? I believe he had been a witness in a corruption proceeding against senior department of Corrections officials. He had basically said. Here's what I saw. These guys corrupt just to remind her. That's the same nineteen ninety-six investigation into corruption within corrections. So Johnson said since Nineteen eighty-six he'd considered himself a marked man for speaking out against that corruption. But why would he come forward with this. Let's two decades later. What did he have to lose then? He said he knew that. Department of corrections officials had ordered micro. Michael Frankie's murder. So he thought he was w vulnerable so his view was he's going to do twenty years in the Oregon State. Prison system is a marked man Dan for two reasons. He's unlikely to survive so at the time he had spoken to me. He had oriented to be an administrative segregation and people people call it the whole in other words he wanted to be separated from the from the mainstream prison population. So stated motivation. We'll see one of service time in another state where where he was not under the thumb possible retribution of people that he thought were groped. Whether you believe Greg Johnson or not like Mike Vince Taylor Association between Tim Natividad and Michael's murder and another connection tying Natividad to the murder would soon come forward. Conrad go see is very unusual characters. Obviously intelligent is his artistic at least at one point in his life he was quite out of control. At this time he'd been serving. I think eleven years for a knife point rake. He was due to get out on parole in fact he was scheduled for release on parole. Roll week before the murder then about six months after Michael Frank is murdered. He goes to his counselor in prison and tells the counselor that he knows something about the murder. He says he was approached by Tim Natividad to do the murderer and he knows that Scott mcallister. The the prison lawyer arranged it is their record of that. I pulled up the report by Lawrence Conrad's Counselor Osler and it says this is what the Task Force wrote from his report. Lawrence was interviewing Garcia concerning institutional matter during the conversation conversation Garcia told. Iran's this to Frankie was killed by Timothy David Natividad. This was arranged by Scott mcallister. So that's the information information they had. Wow now the police have an official memo from someone in corrections that they just can't ignore counselor Laurent's then does what he's required to do and he writes short memorandum on what Conrad is told him. Senate to the Frankie Task Force which of course creates a problem problem for them. Because it's now part of the public record and they can't pretend it doesn't exist so they they send one of the lead detectives Ken Procedure to talk to Conrad. Conrad and it's clear from report that they're not really much interested in talking about Natividad and he doesn't even ask about mcallister. The the lead detective on the Task Force doesn't even ask Conrad Garcia about it or if he did he shouldn't read anything about it. Got His report here to nothing about mcallister callister. So then what happens to Natividad as a suspect in the investigation at that point drop in. That's pretty much. The End of native dad bad as far as the official investigation goes. That's incredible the camp pursue him without pursuing mcallister..

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"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

Murder in Oregon

04:27 min | 1 year ago

"michael frankie" Discussed on Murder in Oregon

"Six forty five pm on January Seventeenth Nineteen eighty-nine the night before he was to present the findings of his investigation. Michael Frankie walked out of the Dome Building Headquarters Quarters of the Oregon Department of Corrections. Forty minutes later. Elise clawson found his car with the driver's side door open. I went out the front step mm-hmm and his car was open an I heart adding because I couldn't see him and I had this really creepy Felim After a four hour search his body was found outside the office buildings north entrance. He had been stabbed in the heart and was lying in a pool with his own blood and the glass he shattered trying to get back inside. It was a public official who discovered corruption in his own department and night before where he was to address the Legislative Committee on this very subject. He was stabbed in the heart in front of the building where he worked corrections was made up of literally the family members and ex wife a wife a cousin an uncle a brother a sister and they basically interlocked and protected each there had been in issues in the prison system that he discovered and wanted to remedy I think he made a number of people in the department uncomfortable. Probably the head of pherson Scott mcallister. Who was the AG lawyer who had for the previous twelve or thirteen years in the signed corrections? Yeah and so. That's the third member of the collection of Department of Corrections officers on the outs with Frankie a week after the murder. The police held a press conference and announced. They were interested in talking with a man who had been seen in. The Dome building quickly became known as the man and the pinstripe suit pinstripe suit supposed to disarm them give them in his office and make it look like a suicide. I went to a psychic. And she said that he had somebody in custody right now named John K. It says it's krause. She said he'd probably didn't do it but he had some information about it. They didn't like the people his confession ultimately lead to. That's what it looks like for sure. Murder and Oregon the production of iheartradio outward appearances at the time of Michael Frankie's murder. Then governor. Neil Goldschmidt was Oregon's Oregon's golden boy. He inherited broken correction system but hired. Michael Frankie and made strides improving the department's reputation which was tarnished by the eighty-six investigation. He seemingly had nothing to lose by pursuing. Mike's Killer so why would he resist. Well that was the the big question I mean for all anyone knew he was completely clean he. He had been the golden boy of Oregon politics for years since he ran as a very young young handsome candidate for mayor and was even considered a likely candidate for president. People talked about him being the first Jewish President and here. He was governor resisting. My requests. Another requests in the media for more attention to the eighty-six Investigation Asian and the possibility that Michael Frankie was investigating corruption in his department. And I couldn't figure it out because he's a smart politician politician besides everything else and he hadn't come into office until after the eighty sixth investigation or eighty six cover up as I think of it now. It didn't make any sense. I couldn't figure out what was going on because he could have easily tacked it onto onto a mess. He already inherited. Oh absolutely he could have blamed it on his predecessor. The yeah it happened under the previous administration but there was no way anybody would have been prepared for the reason why no one thought there was a problem except me I guess and then there would be a huge huge problem. We would learn later that he had a great deal to cover..

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"michael frankie" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

02:16 min | 1 year ago

"michael frankie" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"Hey everybody it's knoll from stuff they don't want you to know that you you already knew that invading your podcast feed for a trailer for the new show murdering Oregon that I've actually been working On outside of stuff they don't want it for the last year so many of my away from the podcast studio adventures have involved out to Oregon and investigating and reporting on. on a lot of the Rampant corruption and some of the sceviour criminal elements in the state of Oregon from politics to the prison system to St Louis will violence and drug smuggling and it all started with a single murder of a public official by the name of Michael Frankie so here is the first trailer for murderer Oregon hope you dig it and please go ahead and go to apple podcasts or wherever you get podcasts and subscribe today it was not an accident it was not a car burglary gone bad. I was thirteen. She sold me for drugs. It was necessity Asia dirty cops dirty town salems most crept place and he plays you find state public official who discovered. in his own department. He was stabbed in the heart in front of the building where he worked Kevin Intel. We're about to dive into an imaginable world of corruption and depravity that would nearly ruined fills career it seemed unfair to How's the paper attack me put Kevin's life at risk don't may turn around I wasn't GonNa turn on the news now. put a right between my fucking is and expose the seediest underbelly of Oregon ripping my hair off shoving pills down my mouth as having deep is the very people who were supposed to police it was something very big Michael Frankie's killers were never brought to justice and you'll find out why this season of murder in Oregon premiers October twenty fourth listen to murder and Oregon on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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"michael frankie" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

Newsradio 970 WFLA

01:48 min | 1 year ago

"michael frankie" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

"The investigation he was the head of the legislative committee that Frankie was supposed to talk to the day after he was killed Jen hello welcome to Mike Frankie's higher he was someone to do some things that were animated he was a person who still care we had a real sense of I found the right person someone who was going to be progressive in terms of rations and so it was really very exciting former representative check sites also saw the same promise Michael came walking in and he was the first guy that ever said to me I don't want more money I can't change if they want to change the change and sells help me out you get more money to early childhood education reading writing math is more important keeping people out of corrections and everything here's Michael Frankie in his own words addressing the city club of Portland the year before he died I'm the punishment point in the criminal justice system you can put all the effort and money you want to into the catch basin and the punishment exercise but you're not touching that socially complex bundle of issues having to do with this functional families child abuse substance abuse turning scales on wed motherhood and teenagers and all that mess that generates the people coming to present.

Trailer 2 | Who Killed Michael Francke?

Murder in Oregon

01:53 min | 1 year ago

Trailer 2 | Who Killed Michael Francke?

"They got governor say organ there's a force that's missing the murder of a high official Hilda man watched him die. I mean it was getting really really scary in Michael Frankie was murdered. She needs shish you found more than a few snakes and a lot of them are still out there premiers October twenty fourth listen to murder and Oregon on the

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"michael frankie" Discussed on WJR 760

WJR 760

02:48 min | 3 years ago

"michael frankie" Discussed on WJR 760

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