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Raiders offseason moves

Vegas Nation - Raiders Football

09:49 min | 2 years ago

Raiders offseason moves

"Hello and welcome to our Vegas Nation podcast. It's been a long time but we are back baby the off season when we're here to do with we're going to preview the twenty eight teams Graf I have the raiders beat writer Michael Jokin in-studio talking about of course the two thousand eighteen and also would John Brunner's done thus far As well Jordy Nelson basically coming in for Michael Crabtree so to speak and the muscle hamster on that okay canes agent he and I spoke shortly following the release being made and his conversations with the raiders outlined seems to be a change in philosophy when it come the staff the front office but look at this raiders Rosser already more than twenty moves have been made since the start of March the twentieth editions I should say with two point eight million dollars they're going to probably spend maybe a quarter of that when it's all said and done look for the raiders to draft a punter before they actually released so all this movement through it all you see a lot of veterans a lot of veterans who are thirty and up coming onto this roster more experience at some critical spots even save some money they I took a good look at this draft class salt was available and felt comfortable moving forward to a younger cheaper option. Okay now some of the additions like to get your take on those Marquette King I'm told rich barrage of the special teams coordinator he went to Texas and before the pro day interview or privately worked out Michael dicks that's not including the releases like Michael Crabtree that was a big move trading Jimmy Amaze all Awali Trading Cordeiro Patterson leading marquette king goat and he wound up with the Denver Broncos you happy to be here every time a chance to be in Las Vegas reminds me that it's all for something in terms of living in Oakland which is great but these writers are coming here and comes to how much money they're willing to spend this year at Hunter Marquette Cain you is fantastic and he was due two point eight million dollars in salary four reason he doesn't like the name okay can I call Mr Martin then okay the muscle I liked the muscle hamster he can't get to me in Las Vegas that's true what are your thoughts go and just gruden's explanation for letting him go well I don't know if gruden spoken publicly about it yet but what I've been told from speaking to win Silverman that's in Him lady him go obviously he's an all pro punter is one of the best punters in all the football and he goes to a team that's in the division what were your thoughts on the fact that they let him on a couple of the guys in the added to the thought Jordy Nelson move was significant for the raiders for a number reasons even looking to move on from Michael Crabtree this is part of what Jon Gruden wanted he wanted some experience guys who played football he felt the right way to really instil type culture he wants in his locker room it's good to be here it's actually when it happened okay all right something else that is going to happen the two thousand eighteen draft is going to happen John Going to put his official stamp on the team before we get to that word of that one for months outside enjoy Nelson enabled the team to do that some will ask what does George Nelson have left on the other side of thirties coming off of an especially additions ever made now you mentioned a few key additions and subtractions won a Lotta people will talk about you here on on blogs and everything else market king productive year raiders say well Aaron Rodgers was hurt for much of that year the broken clavicle Edgar Bennett the teams wide receivers coach now was the wide receivers coach. Then you also privately worked out some other punters including the one in Alabama so before the R- Roy for the raiders were deciding to okay let's move on from market Ken Offensive Coordinator in Green Bay so nobody maybe more well verse in what Joy Nelson can and cannot do at this stage in his career so the fact that Edgar Bennett signed off Lynn is got to be special we have Michael Belkin in studio of course the raiders beat writer all the way from Alameda to Las Vegas my man is good to see Tampa gruden Tampa Blah Blah Blah. I believe he's been in the League for I want to say about six years or so the two years in which he played sixteen games he rushed for more than what what do you think about what coach group has done thus far as far as putting his stamp on the Oakland Raiders it's been incredible he's been busy and that interest him other coaches fourteen hundred yards the other four seasons he didn't reach five hundred yards and so when he's healthy when he's right he's we've seen what

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Legit?

High Noon

22:11 min | 2 years ago

Legit?

"The limitations juice in my Jukes. Try to get into this concert tonight. One buddies before they got Bob low in this young Pablo asked if I can get onto this and they said, I could be a link to buy tickets at a very affordable price. It was just this kind of. Discounted price. At first, I was like, that's the limit your dues, Pablo that I realized is really the limits of my limit of our collective. Yeah. Yeah. I thought we had more than, but you know what we're gonna make it through. I guess, I guess. I guess they didn't make very, I I. In and then you sleep? Yeah, I was tired other story different day, but we have some names in the biggest one is AJ green last night AJ green Halden three touchdowns to beat the ravens now to know after scoring sixty eight points through two games. Do you think the Bengals are threat to win the division over the Steelers? All the mains about all depends which threat because they are the banks. In theory, they are a threat. They are a good team and all like consistently a pretty good team over time. A couple of things break writing for the CFO brawl for the. That's right for the Bengals. Yeah, they could be a threat to win a division, but do they were the home team on Thursday night game. That's about assure bed is there is in sports. I don't know what we can take from this. Yeah. Any optimism we got from the Bengals right now. I think draws from the fact that the Bengals historically through the first two games of NFL seasons have been in confident they have never scored thirty points each. He first two games of the season. Last year, I believe they scored nine point touchdown until. Three. So all of this is very good news. But AJ green, I think is the headline here because the dude is never considered among the top five receivers in the league. And now here is is it's Blau dated goes that way because I think he's basically made the Pro Bowl since he got into the league or how much money has he made eighty Dalton by being there to throw the ball, right? No one ever denies the talent of AJ green. He's just the easiest guy to forget of this group of great receivers that we have in the league, which is, you know, probably Dalton's fault and look, people go Dell, go and Tonio Brown, go Keenan, Allen. I mean, think AJ green look when the Bengals scored twenty five points or more in this era of Andy, Dalton, AJ green their record, which gives me precisely right now is incredible. They're are really, really good team. So the more AJ green, the better. But yeah, this is not one of those weeks where I'm like, yeah, let stamp this. This is also one of those things that AJ agreed, whereas personality, do you have it in that right way? Because. Mobile will remember longest Ray j. Green's career probably instilling off on Jalen Ramsey he didn't play. Next name, Steve Smith. Ooh, yeah. Poor yesterday's game. Michael Irvin sit that quote, big guy. Michael Crabtree is the first Joe flacco trust says anquan Boldin into twelve. Forgetting these bit used to play for the ravens sitting right next tool watch only baller own there. I understand you have the rings, but I pass you satirically year. Ready? All your power wagon. I concur and I agree with you arenas saying, they know route. I couldn't run that you hope to run. The competition still, I gotta stocks might route I got a doctor. Societas degree play community, three ring. Listen, we've got. Y'all, like never mind. The fact that look like Mike was wearing a pot of greens up there that even what he was talking about about hit, you know. But I think that Steve Smith who to your point was ready to insult like the host, Reggie Bush, whoever had anything ready to critique their background, like it's the ravens under Joe flacco. I think Steve Smith is wise enough to know that that's not necessarily the hill he wants to play flag right? Like who would want to claim to be Michael Crabtree who had like six yards this game to begin with. So it's all weird, but it's mostly about Michael Irvin Steve Smith, but the tricky thing about these evaluating his career. By the way, what I learned on Twitter is a lot of you guys have no idea what money might work like Michael Irvin is one of the greatest receivers there ever was Steve Smith. I'm not sure any receiver was ever is good while playing with quarterbacks, not as good or playing on teams that cared less about throw the ball one year. Steve Smith led the league in yards receiving per game while playing on the team that attempted the least. Passes in a year. He was really, really good. And I guess he feels like people forget that because he decided to come in and take all Michael Irvin was a little bit better in his career. Well, let's talk about just Smith wanted to take on Mike Lurvin because this Smith actually want Michael Irvin in the way that would most make our show most still forget last year he threatened them. He said he was going to beat them up because the something that Michael Irvin said about a soup that's always been down this road. The thing to remember is we have stories of Smith fighting. We have a story of Michael put a pair of scissors through somebody's neck. Yeah. I mean, neither one of the not needed one both have demonstrated that they don't necessarily fight fair. I'd like to watch it. Yes. So may claim that Steve Smith sucker punch someone else in one of those stories, but I'm not going to be the one to say that. Not me, no. The next Kenny stills, the dolphins wide receiver who has knelt during the national anthem since twenty sixteen told reporters quote, we started the protests three years ago now and we're not. Going anywhere. This is something I'm committed to forever and quote, are you surprised he's still going strong? No, I am not. He's made the decision that this is what it is that he is going to do. Look, we've seen two guys who may have had their careers ended because they decided they're not going to back down on this issue is not terribly surprising that there's a third who might feel that way. But no, I feel like this is going on so long that we've lost sight of what is kind of being original question, which is, why do I have to stand for the national anthem and better question? Why is it that the guys that just sit by the water cooler? Yeah, they don't get any help. About the anthem? It's about the coal, yes. And Kenny stills has this season been really impressive if you go and find video of him talking about why he's doing this, all of the bigger picture issues, all of the reasons, brutality, racial inequality. He's incredibly incredibly thoughtful and all of that, and I'm impressed by him. But this to me is most notable because he's not making a bigger stick. And maybe that speaks to the complications of Colin capper, Nick and why people love to make that guy specifically whether it was the pig socks or whatever a target, the Castro shirt a target. But if people actually wanted to diminish Kenny stills 'cause they would do something like what they're doing right now, which is not making an enormous deal about it. I think that's big. And I also think another thing that gets lost this Kenny stills was out like working with veterans, right. Marco Rubio was meeting. But I mean he gives you a vantage or an insight into how many things we've got going on with his issue and that it's not it's not binary to the people who buy area about this thing with the national anthem. Veterans know this isn't necessarily what it is like. There's a lot to talk about we Kinney sales, but don't nobody actually wanna talk about any of this was this gets passed point of controversy in the media in discussing this we are useless. We have nothing to Brian unless we got gasoline. If you're not furious and Kenny stills for doing this than Kenny stills, not that interesting, which is very bizarre and very all right. Next names, Michael Kenji's by facing up to twenty five years in the bang-up he was charged with insider trading. The hawks have signed Michael kendricks and plan to play him Monday night how much this apprise you. It's prized me because the Browns, I think, could have kept this guy. I mean, I'm thinking back to how this all played out and the Browns, I think, had a grievance against Michael kendricks based on the fact that he lied to them about. How bad this was, how later this was, and he lied about who was perpetrating the crime. Yes. So he lied to his employer, but employers generally can tolerate lies if you're good enough. And so the question here is, is Michael kendricks that good or the Seahawks just this desperate? Well, no, it might be some combination of the two, but to me, there's no surprise that he got this job because sentencing is until January buddy. Don't nobody care about no insider trading. Think about this Jabballah Lewis when he got pop facilitating a drug deal on a cell phone, you know what his suspension was pretty del two games. He got two games, right? So if the league didn't have the law and order Commissioner may come in here, you'll get two games for adult deal. You think somebody cared about this in caught an insider trading, the personal conduct policy is not here because of a broad notion of crime. It's here for the idea of things that offend the public. The public is not offended by insider trading. I'm not surprised. They picked him up. Yeah, the NFL is I think of all the leagues the most reactive, and I don't think it's easy for any of these commissioners any of these judiciary, pseudo bodies at the league's appoint panels to discuss punishment. I don't think it's easy for them to come up with here is a sentencing guideline, right here is the penal code here are the federal guidelines, and here's translates into games. I think that's impossible. Absurd exercise. All they do is look and see who is most mad about this and I don't think anybody actually. No, I don't think people care that much about the other stuff to be perfectly honest, but they really, really don't care about this. When all those guys said we were like eight man, we need to make sure that these players are under control. I'm sure they ran up a budget chart. We need to stop robbing people, eat stuff from carrying. One person was like, we need to cut down onto white collar crime. You can download the high noon podcast on apple podcast on the ESPN app. Bomani, too. I also have one just in case you were wondering. You're working late when you get into Lert on your smartphone, your blink motion, activated security camera, picked up something suspicious at home. You open your blink out and watch a video clip of someone peering through your kitchen window. You dial nine one one and police role. I mean, isn't the point of having home security to alert you before bad stuff happens not after that's what blink does or do your blink cameras now and get fifteen percent off at blinkprotect dot com. Slash score blinkprotect dot com. Slash score on when the juice was good. They wouldn't talk to me anyway, Rijkaard. All right. I quote, if we put the ball in Daggs hands, I think will have a better shot at winning. Giant safety Landon Collins about. I was team plans to defend Prescott and the Cowboys this more of an insult towards that or his wide receiver. Dag hurted air responded, challenge, accepted challenge accepted like what the hell else was going to be man. You had to go to the game. Alan is do I know what I'm just gonna take this week off. I mean it's not a compliment that Prescott certainly. But the truth is if you're going to beat the Cowboys the way to do it is to make them throw the ball a lot, right? They don't have good receivers. They got office that apparently everybody understands how to stop. That is what you wanna do know over his last nine games in terms of being able to hit that two hundred yards threshold or the threshold of throwing TD Dak Prescott has been terrible. He has been and those receivers that are in p. threats do not help either. So it is both, but that Prescott man, like if you have him and you have is equal, Elliott and you're the Cowboys. And those are the guys that other teams dream of building around because they're on those. Contracts, this team should not have this problem. The question we still are asking exactly how good deck Prescott is because I think people are people got an with him with that start new was understandable, but I still was sold at that point and nothing that happened last year would leave you sold, but he's not getting any help with this. Like I don't know how you evaluate him with the dudes. They got out there. Why receive women hers as the best they have her? Yes. Oh, what's he supposed to do? Walk around. All right. Next quote, grandma might not get up from one of my licks. Jaguars quarterback Jalen Ramsey in describing healthier see is on the field. Let's listen. I don't believe in having friends on the field. I mean, my brother, my dad, my mom grandmom was out there like it's on after the game. We can be cool. It doesn't matter. That's how I feel like I respect the game football. Football's nine, a game into play, being nice each other and all that combine after games over with. That's cool. No, I definitely wish you know that. You know, that was. He hitting me bay might not get up from one of my legs. Pablo, would you imagine grandma's reaction was I want grandma's reaction on tape. I want her to object to this and to be the member of the Ramsey coaching and family tree that I expect to be. But like it is to Jalen Ramsey point football. I make the parallel between football and boxing. A lot of boxers are not friends with each other because they have to give each other concussions professionally, it's hard to make those friendships across line. So I'm not surprised that Jalen Ramsey has this position in general grandma's? Does that a noteworthy position? Even the line itself is not especially nowhere the I got questions, but the guy who said you wouldn't really hit your grandmother would please tell me you were just minding for money quote and not actually asking that question because if you were really doing follow up on that, you might be the dumbest person in the world. Pulled on Jalen. I just wanna make sure you really would hit your grandmother lad you yourself in a beer app, US something like that. Also liked that he can ask that question and thankfully largely like, you know, there isn't any more serious undertone to that because down south. But I also I also feel pretty confident I'll really know anything about its grandmom. I'll know much about his family. She will drop him where he stands before he has the chance to hit her. Right. Like there's like if grandma. On the grandma will not exactly. I'm just telling you this right now. You're not about to get out here to talk about my grandma, but how you lay her down. She made it a little bit too far in life to be out, hit tolerate, and I love the disrespects because unlike Jalen Ramsey she is not a football player and football field, and I bet you he would tell you he would do those things football night in no real life. This is where Jalen Ramsey's data. I feel catch intervene for the families. Honor last quote is Cairo would be the Knicks first. Second, third and fourth choice. Purported Asia, rod, Blakely of NBC sports regarding the Knicks twenty nineteen free agent priority. Do you believe the next would really put Kyrie ahead of k. d. all right, so I can only assume that whoever tolls rod, this is operating on the premise that Kevin Durant is not a free agent until he's a free agent, right? Or that his right now he has a player option. So you cannot assume that his deal is up because otherwise there's no question that Kevin Durant is the guy that you go. There is not a living, breathing soul. Outside of Drik Irving's house believes they carry Irving is a better player. They can drain. Of course, I think we both believe the Knicks go to try to get a both. Yes, and not just both of us believe that I feel like the not so secret rumor among everybody we've talked. It is remarkable if you're not out there, you don't talk to people that are business. Like we do gossiping such everybody thinks that Kevin Durant and Tari Irving are coming to the Knicks. And I would just like to say that I take when we hosted Bo in July of twenty seventeen. I was out here saying Kyrie Irving when you demanded that trae would really like to come to New York. And I feel like did you offer a welcome to everybody else and just drop your own name? I did just drop my own different. What does he do? You didn't have to do that. Here's a flag, and this is planting of this story. If they come to this city, I would like a little bit of credit for the very least for seeing it before the entire world for sought. I'll just tell you this, maybe those people will give you credit for it or maybe they will sense the outright disdain that I have, what just took place, they will understand. No, you don't deserve any credit. Deserve all my opinions on burners. I wanna do tonight anyway. I'm gonna show. So I was thinking about, like what if we got one of those giant trenchcoats and I got on your shoulders and then it was like seven foot taller than that, I guess. But yeah, we walk in and then I wave. And you know, once we're in and you pop out and after the rest of your juices going, after that the number of the day is thirteen thousand dollars. That's how much speed is to be a five touchdown, plunge against the raiders watch what he was fine for too harsh. Pablo here we go. Mark speeders open about away. Got it going home to get in touch with these s. and that's what he did his kinfolk marshawn Lynch, though. I don't know if they can't focus just say that I feel like we need more information on that, but they have known each other for like their entire lives. Lynch was never ably. It's like. Zululand landed their brothers like black people need it, which is. This John seem like it's both too much and just right. And I say that because I love this so much. I love that that is celebrating that we get to witness on television, but because it is find it becomes much more subversive in that much more fun. So if it's too much money for Marcus Peters, I understand. But I liked that this is not allowed because I wanna see more of it and I wanted to be dangerous. But you're not going to see more in the reason that you're not going to see more of it is they tax people thirteen thousand dollars at a time for like that's still about money that a lot of guys the NFL cannot afford. And I do understand why the NFL to say, no, we don't want people out here. Walk up and down this hallway right now. Grab your crotch to see how long it is. Becoming find out who the HR officer is the student. Well, let's see the videotape of people trying to do something similar to this in the past every year is I mean like the innovation of this, is that even the, oh, I don't feel like that's the only time he hit like the vision I had in mind, have him doing that is different one. It is ready with the mooning that almost may Joe books head explo- really did envy, bumping and rubbing is what I do overlook when it comes to that force. There is my favorite, which we didn't show is the Sam ka sell the big little different because that's not actually grabbing yourself John's pantomime and grouting Jonathan Pappa Bod wealthy off the field in grabbing himself that was different. That was that will what nobody like, oh, y'all trip. And it was like, okay, he's trip. He was in closing. I'd like to look at Drake, her passion dance at a nursing home, but let's be honest about drinker. Patrick dancing, that's about the nurse. At home dance. Oh, all right. Now what you need to know is it costs money to play Sol's a lot on television. So you're not hearing the real salt, which is the big doctorates next episode with deregulation? Bogle on top of it from the daddy Walter, I believe that says that he is the j. lo j. j. and this is a reminder. Well, that's big, daddy, Walker, that guy, right? There is big Walter. I feel like we dropped the lead here. Wait a minute, so that that right. Act, that guy works nursing. He works, whoever is pay. Walker, his last name, a reference new Whitman, saying this to Lobo is out here hitting it all beat and everything else. I like this is. Oh, that's the jail. She's all editions route. She's doing a Walker day right there. She like grandma walk a drop in, bring it back up and you can't handle it. Almost became terrifying life alert commercial. But thankfully everybody made it to save save lives. It wasn't going to that morbid. Why don't you. You do that because it was a good idea. Actually, that lady. To make some money provided everybody in the room. Did it sound like that was a good idea, Pablo. By that and when she is making money because you sell in life alert kill thank. I hope I'm sorry. Ring closing. I would like to gradulate Rick flair on once again, finding love CD life alert bracelet to in a hopeless place. He might actually, but let's check this out because he is walking down the aisle for the fifth time in his life, and I don't know what the four times before we're like, but that's a happy nature. Boy also tell the people what song was playing when he walked out. It was the song that was about RIC flair it was aired later, put his tongue down that is Rick flair drip by the way is the undertaker and Dennis Rodman, and I have various questions about who else and what else was happening at this wedding. But well, this also just made on blessed man. But this also maybe think about something as you could struck your wedding invite list. I'm sure other people deal with this, and I'm pretty sure the RIC flair had to deal with this, which is if you. Oh, somebody money. Do you still invite them to your way. Right. Part of the guest list got pared down because I feel like some of those people like Rick, what the wedding gift. No, the gift is that I even showed up. He got my gift all. I'm not a wrestling guy like you bow, but the undertaker always looked like Kelsey grammer always look like razor. That's a good question. He does kind of look like him. I've is everyone's okay. Yeah, goodbye. Hi, everyone. I'm sorry that in good person.

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Episode 140: Robo Johnson

Gamer Talk Podcast

1:22:25 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 140: Robo Johnson

"Gamer talk podcast <music>. They found me hello listeners gamers geeks grownups and internet welcome back to kantara gamer talk podcast sniping video video gaming action right out of northern arizona somewhere in washington from the inside of the crew's quarters in a london shipyard. This is season as a number two episode one forty your listening to a weekly podcast when we talk about everything and anything but mainly video games. I'm your host chris and today. The full crew is here okay. We've been talking about our story contest for some time now so send us your stories to win that money. You can send us your origin story to console missile drones at g mail dot com. That's c. o. n. s. o. l. e. d. r. o. n. E. s. at g mail dot com all right. Let's get to it. It's tar for employees. They start off this week with john. What are you drinking. What have you been playing this week buddy this week. I i am drinking. Jeremiah weed sask parrilla whiskey and i played modern warfare that to be to alpha and insurgency sandstorm. That's it for me all right. We'll move on over to miguel mcgowan drinking. What have you been playing this week. Buddy drinking water. I'm trying to get back on my <hes>. My meal plan because i fell off for a couple of weeks. <hes> what have been playing i. I played some overwatch on p._c. And xbox and this is for the last two weeks since within podcast last week a play black ops on xbox and on my p._c. Eh and that was horrible experience because i'm going to buy modern warfare are xbox john <hes> anyways quick story areas. I went to go play <hes> some solos on i._p._c. for blackout and apparently he doesn't have enough players is to have like solos duos squads so they rotated and whatever's there is what you get so <hes> if they can't keep a fan base some pretty sure i'm just gonna buy it on good old xbox <hes> shadow of the tomb raider so i started playing this again this week because i got burnt out on other games so i went back to games that i didn't finish because i started pulling chris this year and i'm trying to finish up those games that i hadn't finished so shadow the tomb raider. I finished far cry. Don finally played a little g._t._e. That's one of those games got burnt out on. I got tired of the grinding. Madden pissed me off as always world combat was irritating me. I think that day that i was playing g._t._e. Madden and mortal combat. I was just fed up with what i had been playing so that's vice which is a strong. I have a question about far cry new done yes. What did you choose at the end. The doesn't matter i know i did not kill him in the cut scene yeah. I shot him afterward. Yeah did the same thing. I'm not going to see what happens and then i like barron. He won't i bet yeah. I shot a cut scene and then lastly. I played modern warfare t. v. two alpha sweet all right. It was added buddy you said last night all right moving on over to joe lashley moved out over the joe. What are you drinking. What have you been playing this week. Buddy wow this week. I'm drinking eight five pretty good like <hes> been playing all at seventy six g._t._a. Five online <hes> play the escapist on xbox 'cause <hes> it's wanted to see what it was and i played <hes> are or been playing portal nights on the switch. That's it what about you joe. Joe also played one single game of blackout with me two weeks ago and then he that'll be right back and then he never came back yeah well. When i did come back you were gone so i was like okay. It was like an hour and a half later. Spartan showed up and i played with spartan like five five matches and you never came back and okay. What about you chris <hes>. Let's see right now. I'm drinking gatorade right now. <hes> he does not does just gatorade is fruit punch and berry. It's called the flavors called fierce. It's pretty good. Actually it's one of my favorite gatorade. I knew someone was going to do that but someone do you mean john someone was going to do it could have been youtubers and <hes> let's see this week. I played on my my switch so marvel ultimate alliance three <hes> catania zero and trails rising and then over on xbox one. I played some fallout. Seventy six scrapped donald online and i tried no man's sky beyond yeah. I don't think i have the patience for this game so i might come back and revisited visited but there's there's just a lot that they included in this so i'm like fuck another survivor game. I got to learn what the fuck i'm doing so i'll probably eat that later. It's it's just a lie within the same earned it on <hes> started playing and i was like i gotta remember how to play fucking games start over so yeah. It turned off real fast. Yeah me too. I got frustrated and just it's just a lot right now. And then i played this game called fishing planet so even though i can fish right out near my house here of i play this game. It's pretty cool to free download if anybody wants to try it but it is. He's a decent game <hes> i could say it's paid a win because you have to pay for coins. Unlock areas go fishing at kinda sucks so <hes> yeah and that is pretty much me this week we do <music> weekly news keeping informed and up to date in gaining industry all right this week short even though we haven't been on two weeks there's not much news <hes> megan zero z x. Legacy collection has been announced for consoles in p._c. Will be four mega man zero games in the collection and i it will be on xbox one and <hes> <hes> yeah january thirty bucks twenty th january twenty one twenty twenty <hes> it will be for p._s. Four switching xbox one <hes> p._c. Players will be able to purchase it on steam. So those preorder you get the music for mega man <hes> <hes> moral combat eleven combat pack roster and and release dates have been confirmed so there will be the terminator <hes> joker and spawn so yea ah i can't wait for that unfortunately small does it come out until like march seventeenth of next year so won't be paying more. I won't be playing until march march of next year. Timelines are stupid for this mortal combat so the terminator t eight hundred which is arnold <hes> even though it doesn't have have his voice <hes> it will be october. Eighth sendero will be november. Twenty six joker is nova or january twenty eighth and then march seventeenth will be spun night wolf. Inching sung are now available so you next this game. We really haven't heard in a while since last us. I'm chris and i played it but a leak dangerous okay. The september update is going to make things easier for new players and they're going to be making fleet carriers shit. Oh yeah so fleet carrier those of you you don't know space vehicles carrier or like an aircraft carrier <hes> you can pi- alongside fifteen other teammates yeah so you can you can fly the carrier and then you can have fifteen other teammates board the carrier in when you're ready to do battle launch and fight. That sounds pretty fun man. That sounds cool you'll does. I said the only thing is i'm like five or six planets. It's away from you so i don't know how the hell i can get you well yeah. I'm trying to find a group that we could game up with and you know fly together but yeah what does this on you guys. You guys excellent experts right yeah. We have joysticks to space flight simulator very of it. I heavily dangerous. I just don't have the joysticks. I have it too because chris hasn't just touched it. It's really in for the news short and sweet man. Thank you joe all all right moving on over to the dates miguel anybody boy howdy. Do i got some dates for y'all. Demonic steets keeping us on track with what video games are coming out soon yeah. There's a lot of shit this week. There's a couple of good ones <hes> one. I want to ask you about because i don't know anything about it but i've seen a couple of things online referencing it so i want to see if he has no anything but <hes> amex g._p. Twenty nineteen this is eight twenty seven for playstation an and xbox which is today by the way <hes> the bard's tale four borrows deep director's cut playstation xbox nights and bikes <music> playstation this going to ask you guys about control. He has no anything about control. I heard about it. <hes> i think it was the same uh-huh. Is it the same people that did a condom break things so from what i'm hearing yeah i saw little bits and pieces of it <hes> at three at the press conference and was it as soon as it was like oh yeah. I think it's <hes> it's remedy remedy is is the one that's doing it. <hes> i think they're the ones that did a condom break but i haven't other than just watching her use like force powers or whatever but it's because i've seen it on my timeline a couple of times in completely ignored it so christ star on playstation wreck fest on xbox and playstation at rec fest decay of logos on playstation barksdale tails also on xbox on showdown on xbox. I'm sorry what was that doc. Children that that that one game that we played like ten minutes yes that is that one game by this game john john by this games we can play john john okay. Let's play it all right now. I'm done yes on showdown. That's the one coming to xbox today huma huma gal by it on xbox now play it on p._c. Played on xbox. Here's your bitching about it so i figured i'd ask <hes>. We can have a full group here now. <hes> okay recognizes also on playstation breakfast twenty-eight ban. Dan brace cold soul on next month's hucker bots. I mean hook pots playstation switching xbox like hooker bats on that's great following following up on hooker bots on the twenty ninth. We have heave ho heave ho eurocrats on switch lord of the rings adventure card game switch switch playstation xbox had decay of logos is coming out on the twenty ninth for switch which it came out two days before for today on xbox the thirtieth thirtieth <hes> the dark pictures man of madame playstation nextbank's next box yeah so this was by the guys who did until dawn which was a playstation exclusive and now it's on everything for the switch because such mitch's <hes> newt one xbox playstation and switch blair witch xbox decay of logos again this time on the next day on on xbox astral chain on switch next week nine three catherine full-body on playstation and torchlight to switch xbox playstation spiro reignited trilogy on the switch for your chris joe their final fantasy seven remastered playstation that switch and xbox final fantasy ours phoenix point <music> on xbox and that's everything coming out so men abedin move all all right so we're going to move on down for a segment that we call it. The more you know with the joker drone. Do we have any updates on any any of the stories john or anything. I like that you're getting emails. I have not gotten any emails of you joe. We got an email from your brother but he only asked asked <hes> that we talk about the stadia little bit. That's you jason. That's totally tease there joe while then sorry <hes> now okay because our listeners jerks i mean they don't wanna participate that miniature parts keep my money. That's my there might be a lot of it might just be too much work for them. I don't you got anything for the more you know. Though i do ladies engine step down and i'm sure you guys have talked about it already but <hes> i just wrote donald list of the top ten best sitting selling video games of all time you guys familiar with these lists possibly possibly who who's the number one this did you don't start from number one. I just wanna know what your opinion of number one is and then i will read this stuff. I can guarantee in my opinion is not going to match. What's number. One top selling video game of all time is this yes. Is this a <hes> list from steam or what is it console or wet now. It's all of them all of them that joe guess no. I'm going to say i guess i do. I'm going to say is this of all time so we can get all the way oh shit on the change that then because i was i was gonna say game that made four billion <hes> within the last few years and it's super popular among the young children <hes> fortnight but i don't think that's okay. Y'all gain so it's not profit. It's how many copies sold so. I'm gonna go old tetris in their k. of all time. I'm going to say super mario three all right so we're starred number ten diablo three thirty million plus released may seven may fifteenth of two thousand thirteen for p. C. and that is normally like it's been released for like seventy four. It was originally okay originally originally released in two thousand thirteen p._c. And then later for his four xbox blah blah blah it hit thirty million and only three years sales totals haven't been reported since two thousand fifteen so it should be much higher number nine. We sports resort thirty three point zero nine million released in two thousand nine mario uh-huh cart we thirty seven point one four million released in two thousand eight super. Mario brothers forty million plus released in nineteen eighty five <hes> sales don't they have not accounted for sales for gameboy advanced we or we oh you or three d. S. so the total sales is actually higher but it currently sits at forty million <hes> pokemon red blue green yellow combined to estimated forty five million released in nineteen ninety six <hes> intendo intendo hasn't publicly shared a sales total for the first generation of oakmont gains so that's just an estimate from polygon number five pudgy fifty fifty million released in two thousand seven teen. It retained <unk>. Sorry two thousand seventeen fifty million copies sold in in just over a year june of two thousand eighteen. We sports is number four. I got an eyelash eyeball sports eighty two point eight six million. It is the top selling single platform exclusive of all all time and in ten does best gone bestselling game ever number three grand theft auto five one hundred ten million. Oh released in two thousand thirteen u._t._a. Five is the most profitable entertainment release ever and as april two thousand eighteen eighteen has generated over six billion in revenue which is more than any other game book or movie yes macgyver and evolve end of august august two thousand nineteen me joe and crystal threw money at it so if you did number two minecraft one hundred good and seventy six million plus on top of the one hundred seventy six million paid users there are two hundred million free users users in china so we get it for free. I don't know i didn't get that part. It just had it on the article number. One dan tetris fuck you joe released on june sixth nineteen eighty four the union developed chronic a sixty computer and it's credited with helping launch gameboy success by selling thirty five million copies unintended os handheld console. You guys and fourteen was reported by the tetris company that four hundred twenty five million eight mobile downloads and around around seventy million physical game sales old as chris. It's older than me. I think i'm the same age tetris tetris yeah. It's awesome so yeah tetris number one selling game of all time and that's it for the more you know sweet yeah. Thank you john amazing stuff good job. It's time for our what the fuck for the week. Anybody have any went to flex this week. Joe goethe's he looks like he's having trouble holding it in no i just i know he can't get it out now. It's time for what the folks for the week all right. I'm just yeah what what the fuck <hes> the whole disney sony shit <hes> or more. I should say it's more sony pulling spiderman from m._c._i. Is john. I live under a rock at what happened. Okay <hes> <hes> a little bit of a history lesson. Mcgill kind of chime in on this <hes> sony had the film rights to spiderman originally still have still okay going back has the film rights them <hes> hence all the shitty spiderman movies that have been up to this point okay. <hes> disney buys marvel and assumes you know the merchandise for spiderman. Now what happened was the original deal. Deal was it was it was i wanna say it was like eighty twenty five no no eighty twenty like us us the percent for the merchandise no yeah for between between <hes> disney and sony so what ended up happening with sony made all the money on the films homes but disney made all the money on the toys from the movies okay okay disney came back in and said i've i been reading articles and they said they want thirty percent of the films thirty percent. That's it okay and they're doing homework. They said we'll pitch in the money. We'll help pay for the movies. We'll help distribute them. We'll help do all of this and sony said no and they pulled they said spiderman. We're gonna take him back in. We are no longer going going to have spiderman in the marvel cinematic universe <hes> so ashtec boycott sony because the day they announced it that sony stock has dropped and it's still dropping so fuck you sony those of you that are gonna say well joe. You have assorted t._v. And you have a playstation four and you have a playstation v._r. That check is already been cast moving forward. I will not be spending any more money on sony. Yes yes miguel but just so the listeners know. He won't touch his playstation either. I haven't tested. I haven't even get this <hes>. I haven't even use my yarn for porn. Dan dedicated yeah so <hes> yeah sorry. I'm boycotting sony at this point <hes> we were supposed to be <hes> spider. We were multi verse for halloween. My son my youngest youngest one. It'd be miles. My oldest wanted to be the tom. Holland's fighter in <hes> says he was going to be gwen spider house going to be the new are are spiderman the nicholas cage and <hes> nope so the two boys will still be spiderman but i i'm trying to find something else to do for halloween. Did you buy those. Did you buy those costumes yet for the boys. Now have it all so that cash hasn't stopped and and you're still putting money into okay. Oh yeah that's right but the merchandise goes to disney so shut the fuck. Sorry my bad. She's so since you're boycotting your playstation v._r. Sony porn are your balls as blue. Who is the sony looting screen. I have a piece i have. This magic held p._c. Right here but it doesn't have the are this does. He's got cardboard board dude yeah. I've got cardboard. I could sit there like this and i'm good so plus. I'm like this close to getting oculus quest in in iran or go ahead john so <hes> with sony pulling out on the movie deals pulling out <hes> does that mean that disney is no longer sharing profit from the toys. I believe disney still has because they own marvel so they will still get the prophet front. Are they going to be splitting it with sony. I don't no no no no sony sony's rights to spiderman our video rights. They can make movies and athlete t._v. Shows and that's all they have the rights of spiderman for that's what they purchased video probably electronic one of the electric media okay so summer shawny has electron ick media rights in that came way back when when because before the m._c. z. U. and before iron man <hes> marvel was about to go bankrupt basically so they sold all their proper they sold their popular properties the x. men and spiderman so the x men and all other content went to fox and that's why you have all lows fox x-men movies spiderman went to sony and that's why you had the tobey maguire and andrew garfield sony movies and then <hes> they struck a deal sony and disney where spiderman could join the m._c. You and it would be collaborative <hes> but at the same time sony still doing their own <hes> spiderman stuff into into the spider verse was a strictly sony thing it was an sony and marvel so sony still owns. All the rights to spiderman fox was purchased by disney so now they we have the x. men back in the fantastic four so that's where that's at because now marvel isn't obviously going bankrupt so they yeah yeah yeah and well tom holland. He's still from what i've been reading on on his twitter he still going to be spiderman waterman but he's gonna be in the sony movies now and now they're trying to get a big push to do <hes> to add spiderman into venom movies. He's for right now until disney. Drops the hammer and says guess what sony we own you now so that's to me to me. That's next move to me. That's checkmate <hes> i did also i did also re joe and you probably read this to that <hes> kevin feige aggie who is doing the whole m._c._a. You he's like over the whole m._c._a. You like his plan for spiderman for the next couple. Movies was like pretty much. Just spiderman not like this massive pulling in wolverine or anybody else until his universe. It was spiderman in new york. I mean his spiderman thing so oh <hes> sewn her. Yes only can continue to do that. I mean they can continue that path that disney set for them but i mean they've angered the fans. So who knows how that will go. I mean it. Spiderman was left with that cliffhanger so they're going to continue to tell that story and that's why <hes> tom holland. Linda's still gonna be spiderman. They're going to continue that story but they're going to find a way to break it off or just. Cut it off entirely. They're going to replace like nick fury with somebody else sick nouri. Oh god nope the rock will be nick fury now. No i'm joking. <hes> i also heard that the disney's decision to pull spiderman was from the fact that kevin feige your whatever his name is <hes> has your owners had too much on his plate because he had all of the other disney i._p. Ep to work on sony felt bit. Oh well he's too. He's overcommitted and we feel that spiderman won't be as effective or or won't make as much money as he has in so contradicting because far from home clearly made like what two billion it's like the highest grossing spiderman movie ever and for sony to make that comment at that the point i just i just dropped. I just throw my hands instead fucking sorry but yeah. They said they said <hes> kevin by who has been directing this whole like coordinating this entire m._c. You with them obtaining rights to x. men and fantastic four now and they're going to start bringing x men fantastic fantastic four in the n._f._c. you they feel that spider-man's gonna be neglected by kevin fight you basically i don't so oh and by the way i don't have playstation vue anymore so in a nutshell that's that's the history of sony and marvel and fox as told by me which may not be completely accurate but what i've heard yeah so <hes> going onto the next what the fuck for me <hes> and you luck just saying that was kind of got whoo but <hes> whoever had andrew lucked should name from their team should add a luck yeah yeah yes john lavan andrew luck. He retired but saturday he was like john. You happened on iraq. Have you been living in your view with no cell service out in the middle of bump egypt or what you must have got some goats or something priced bat gloves or something or like feeds and stuff on my facebook. I don't look at facebook. I don't follow the news. I don't listen to the radio. It's nice and peaceful. I mean i was watching football pre-season on saturday in her like yup. Andrew luck's done it was like what am i was on thursday yeah yeah. What was it thursday. A saturday saturday earned no. You're right sorry saturday. It was the day i did my draft. I for some reason i was thinking. Draft is on thursday just kidding. It was right right after our draft to my dad drafted andrew luck well. I've seen i've seen <hes> drafts where the person is drafted andrew lock and they have no mar miller miller john lamar miller tours a._c._l. That is running back for who he doesn't play fan. You don't play fantasy football right. I don't think i can see now. We're going to go to this game right. That's why we're going to the game in the september. We're all gonna be sitting in the stands and you're like yeah. Go you that just through the football yeah john. John knows his team though he knows what what's going on with. This girl was he does russell wilson is yes. Do you know your team. He's not as well as i did last year but i haven't. How's that better. How's that star wide receiver doing which one the d._c. Metcalf that you guys just drafted. I have no idea oh yeah he's not playing anymore. Well how about having these hurt. He's out toward still lock it. Okay whichever augie still baldwin's gone so anyway <hes>. Let's see what other what other what the fuck what the buckled jackson broke his finger today drafter. I was gonna drive me to yeah me too. I said no yup draft him but he's a needle so yeah <hes> another what the fuck just this is just not a bad but <hes> i'm going through and it's funny because since the sony thing was spiderman i've gone through now and i purchased eight marvel movies and four k. So miguel got ironman one two and three <hes> <unk>. I've got the only ones i missing are the guardians in four k. So if you need any for new okay if it'll let me 'cause i know out of those other four k. movies. I'm assuming if it comes with a code. It doesn't let you do it because it's just the barcode to get it but i couldn't get like any of your movies except for a fifth element and i think that was it okay well. It's worth a try. That's for me. That's it. Galyani what the fox this week <hes> i. I guess it's a good what the fuck got a decent draft for for not following in the off season. I was ranked in a for my draft baskin. I did drop a._p. Today because there's a forty percent chance gronk comes back which i don't care a._p. Sucks anyway so i'm just holding onto it. In the event. He comes back. I can trade him because travis kelsey so it's just just a horrid old pastor. Johnny got any what the fuck this week buddy yeah. We've got a couple got so not this recent weekend but the weekend before i tried taking my children camping emphasis untried <hes> we were going over to place called fish lake <hes> <hes> about two hours from here bischoff yeah and it's first-come-first-served serving left early on friday. We got there and it was absolutely packed. It was not a spot. I dunno seventy campsites and they were all awful. The only spot there was one spot but it was not long enough for me to park my trailer so we had to leave their. We ended up going to a <hes> another place. That was really more of a parking lot for our visa was like nice manicured and had grasp that the grass strips between we ne- r._v.'s were only about four feet wide so you there you had four feet of grass and there's another r._v. and envied grass another r._v. It wasn't really what we wanted to do. I need wanted to go fishing. The really bummer part about it is on the way there ryan started throwing up. He ended up having a stomach flu and he couldn't keep waterdown. He couldn't keep anything down either. Eat or drink and then twenty minutes to an hour later eaters right back up so we stayed friday night act up first thing saturday morning came home and i ended up taking him to <hes> <hes> urging clinic again anti nausea medicine the friday that i was trying to get you to play colony with me and joe probably woah home camping camping in according according to that text to sorry to butt in real quick but i i thought you were camping in the game. I was like anyway it would have been fitting but now i was over for his literally camping camping in a parking lot behind this weekend to <hes> no okay now. Check this weekend. My wife and i are going over pullman which is five and a half hours away to watch <hes> washington state. Go cougs play new mexico state so you're not gonna mana of medallion with us. I don't even know what that is. Thanks for being attention on my tax. You'd my brother-in-law will probably be he playing <hes> if if i can force him to put a controller in his hand he'll be playing with us so that's my one with got sucked. It was not a great camping trip but trailer were my truck pulled. The trailer was better work. It's twenty nineteen twenty twenty. <hes> what the fuck is you know that wound on my leg i showed you in the last podcast from sliding from sliding yet got infected it and <hes> my ankle and my leg my left leg or like twice the size of my right leg who i i have. I have a chemical boeing not have health insurance or were no they do. I went to the doctor on monday. Okay on this the last monday a week. From yes we a week from yesterday and i got antibiotics antibiotics topical ointment and medicine orel mad at some pills at laurel medicine salty but then on tuesday tuesday i woke up and my leg got super swollen and wednesday the wounded turning yellow and was really read so i went back to the clinic got added different antibiotic ointment and now the wound is almost gone but my likes still swollen and it hurt so if i'm just saying this now i don't wish on you john but if they do end up amputating your leg you're gamertag will go back to being capping off ah hey i'm sorry but it will be can. Can you get a wooden leg higher. Can you get away with a wooden leg. Yes that'd be really want one of those. I really want one of those leaf spring leg. Oh god that'd be cool. Yeah run fasting a circle because my left leg would be fast. <hes> it's funny he'd get a robot leg like like robocop opens up you can have your pistol and then like the calf opens up and and there's a beer and they're all that's a great idea. You know you should buy one for me as tech support john amputation right. I know we're going to get emails. Else should do this with your leg you should do. We're in a crowd fund your leg detailing l. again liz legua crowdfunding amputation sorry but if we had the technology in i told my son this last night i said if you know because i saw the new disney trailer for star wars and i said if i ever get over the first thing i'm gonna do is i'm gonna cut my arms off so i can have robot arms. He's like what are we going to look like. 'cause the robot arms. That'd be awesome yeah yeah. It's like <hes> what is the lead a battle angel angel right exactly starting to take multiple times a thousand. That sounds like shaving yeah. Well lots of lou. Buddy predict just like a lot of new technologies though they probably will have a dick. Oh god all the technologies. We'll have a bunch of bugs. You'll be breaking shit and fucking nine. Break your concern. Ah if only only we could title this episode robo cock robo cock on. We've got to say that at least four times the episode and then we'll name it cochran beetlejuice the shit my folks sweeteners yeah. I got a couple one. We we lost another guy in our secondary for the cardinals. Robert alfred is out for probably eight weeks is what i'm saying but i'm thinking nine or ten and just because of the fact that he tours fibula so that's that's pretty bad so wait. The fibula bone yeah or broke his fibula. I'm sorry not talk okay. Ah okay that's impressive. He really not funny on districting gatorade too but anyways throng shit yea williams get so as you guys know. I was upset about patrick. Peterson send robert alfred was supposed to be on the other side ahead now. We don't have anything we're down to second string in our quarterback so there's there's our weakness right there. Just throw it to throw the ball though the bog and you'll get a touchdown so it's kind of shitty for us. Hopefully our young guys can step up and then speeding. They'll be you guys will be okay. I mean eagles dealt with that whole issue last year throughout the entire season and didn't do awful so yeah as long as peterson doesn't take anymore. P._d.'s in stays healthy. At least it'll just be six games and we'll be okay on that one side god yeah joe and you can always go to these same <hes>. What do you call it game scheme as the chiefs did last year because the chiefs had a shitty worst worst secondary's last year outscore opponents. That's it. That's what i'm hoping for. That's really what i'm hoping cuyler tears it up. We'll see we'll see what what happens. I don't know <hes> they're hiding a lot of things now. Watching their preseason can't really get much out of it but kylie looked sharp as far as what he did <hes> but that's <unk> as much as i can say. I don't know he's going to have growing pains regardless. He's a rookie <hes> and unlike mahomes mahomes and start fresh off the plate he we had one year behind alex smith and that helped. I'm sure a great like a ton. Just learning in the in the veteran coach to andy reid yeah ah got andy reid and his scheme is pretty bad ass so as far as throwing the ball goes and when they had some running backs running the ball before somebody started hitting women in hotels but thinking kicking hitting kicking saint ship can't get and voice and then during our draft right joe so you talk about this what the fuck here. Are you going to remove the dagger out of my fucking back. Anyways some name players joe and i talk strategy before draft which will never happen again inside buddy but i won't i will be telling you every player. I won't take because you stole like four of them easily about it to utah. It'll be out to the drought. He's like christmas so pissed. He can just ganked me. I was staring at patrick mahomes and i should have just fucking did it and took him and left you with nothing but i said you know what hey joe. He's my brother. I'm gonna let them have it and then what you what you okay. Let me let me oh my defense. Here's no friendship and fantasy football to sense to my defense again dirty. It's dirty yes recurring. The draft was dirty but considered as a security pick. If you want to trade i don't know see that's what i'm saying. That was all my whole mentality behind it. Yes i was fucking with you. Yes i drafted <hes> christian kirk cuyler murray <hes> <hes> michael crabtree andy isabella so mr fuck with chris just to fuck with chris okay all stemmed from because because i was targeting julian edelman okay but we didn't talk about we didn't. You'd never told me about element at all. I know i know i didn't but the fact that you that you picked him mm-hmm right before i was gonna pick him you motherfucker nuts but on the flip side of that i said look okay. I'm i'm going to draft these player. Get if you want to trade. I have them. I don't mind because i have cooper cup. I have loved bill todd gurley early. <hes> latavius murray in leshan mccoy is my running backs and it just picked up darnold thomson case carlos hyde flops in damian. William flops ops <hes>. I've got those guys. I'm stacked at running back a as far as receiver yeah i would be willing to trade for a wide receiver receiver. I'm not gonna take kittle. Don't worry i've got o._j. Howard who's like the number three tight end <hes> but i'd be willing to trade for wide receiver. I'm i'm going to hold onto cuyler umbrella. Gonna hold onto kirk in crabtree. I let go of india's ability. He's he's available now. If you want to pick them up and it's not going to be used for points really so it's droff you get anti and he makes good points so yeah but <hes> yeah so yes. I did draft a bunch of cardinals to fuck with you chris but the draft isn't your permanent team in nobody ever has the same team that they drafted with at the end but you broke the code man. You broke the code really talking yes. Yes we brought yes. I broke the code gross with you. I have gambhir's beers actually had like a forty and i was fucking with everybody. Else was having a good time so it was like i'm gonna keep fucking with this guy but i've got him under lock and key again megadeal isolated megadeal. I get it but our whole league knows more shark cards. Ah maybe see just saying any real money. I'm just saying if you give up a wide receiver or i don't know. I don't even need like your number one receiver. I'm just saying you ain't getting mettlement izzo. No i'm not asking for men but i'm i'm just saying it's like looking at how it is if crabtree blows up keeping him but you keep capture i wasn't going for him. At all cuyler murray and patrick mahomes the chiefs in the cardinals had the same by week so it does not no good to keep carla murray but i'm holding onto him because if i had let him go <hes> somebody that had some quarterback andrew luck by depict him up right now i just i get the lock and key thing but also <hes> commissioner can stop oliver trades thinking that we're scheming this whole thing up to at the same time time because they know we're friends well. It depends on what it looks like so it over. Pin is no reason to block it exactly exactly the if it looks like a fair trade. There's no reason i'm not gonna ask for julian edelman. I'm not gonna ask for cattle not gonna give those guys up either way so so i mean i mean i i may trade i mean unless i can get pilot murray and christian kirk to you for one player then maybe you know if i can give you kirk in murray for edleman or kirk murray and crabtree ataman then why not but you'll get three players for one number one wide receiver i mean hell even madden would say you're of course yeah you could trade is approved. We'll see we'll look at it. We'll look at it. I had to mention if you're just my defense on on the draft. I was just doing it to fuck with you because i knew the draft was a permanent. Should i don't even know if bell sorry. I don't even know of love bell is going to be you know be playing in top form even shady mccoy loyd because now that they've got running committee with frank gore and chris ivory and all the shit in buffalo. It's like i dunno shady me not do anything right right so i may drop shady and really my what the fuck was just more of we had discussed it the day before players and then you took those players and the players is that were undiscussed. I find with it because that's the way the game roles but if we talk about something that's that's where i'm coming from. That's all. I just wish you had gone to the draft. Because everybody was shitting on you. That's fine everybody was like after i picked up in the champ and they will yeah everybody hates you but every one one so i picked up <hes> chris kyle murray and then it picked up christian kirk and then everybody was like oh mugabe doing it's like i'm just fucking with chris is like oh who's the titan ricky. Seals jones is like no. We're not doing the kicker. I'm like gonzales yeah and they said well. We'll just leave him the defense he can just take the decent yeah like what egypt's anyway. I was this close to getting the bears. If whoever took the bears i was going to take them during that part of the draft. I can't remember who got the bears but i was going to start him but honestly i also have trubisky trubisky so to bisky is the quarterback that i might want to keep for that by week. When the cheeser week twelve i would keep a bum yeah. I'll give carla murray and <hes> all the cardinals for breeze to two weeks in within the season and we'll talk traits. I'm just saying i won't i won't let him go so kyle unaccounted murray note so i was going to draft him john so tired of this is going to draft him in some pick them right before my son of a bitch after the draft i get a trade request cuyler murray for jarvis landry and i'm like fuk you oh yes. I don't want okay. John journalists charges across from odell so who's going to get all the catches on that team who he's integrate now isn't he. He's he's gonna be out for the game or two. I thought yeah but he wants. He comes back. It's gonna be joke who all day because they're gonna be streaking across the middle. Whoever wide receiver three or the a slot receiver is him in jokue or going to get all the catches one like one last question fantasy football have either of you heard an update on cam cam. He sprain in spring so he should be okay <hes> for the first game. Hopefully it's whenever he dresses like a bitch before the game that's when he gets injured so his style so fucking weird yeah but i guess that's his swagger yeah. I don't know anyways. That's pretty much what the fucks sergeant had to bring it up dirty. It's no biggie like you said. There's no hard feelings. Agars said my strategy was just locking key because i honestly think cuyler would have fallen right into my pocket regardless. No known was going for cuyler now. Known was gonna really go for kirk either. So if lee was there at the end i would've but i knew you probably would have picked him up but yeah i was waiting for those guys at the end. Unfortunately well fortunately only for you. I've been doing a lot of reading on the cardinals so i know more about the cardinals now in their depths in the roster and who's going to be you know oh wide receiver to behind fits keyshawn or crabtree or kirk now they're saying keyshawn sean in kirk fighting for three now now that crabtree's there that i figure crabtree would take second spot but just for the the experience experience anyway yeah enough fantasy football talk and shit so we're gonna move on over to our main topic the week which john and miguel had played this game mm-hmm. They played the alpha. What is it a monitor <music> alpha thank you it's modern war <unk> fair to be two alpha so <hes> whoever wants to talk about it i go for it. John hasn't had a chance to talk in a while john go oh for it. It was fun <hes> the two v two. There's no i mean you. You play against two other obviously to to to be to <hes> you die verse team eliminated. Yo team wins the round the round there's six five or a six rounds. I two six yeah. I two six <unk> team wins. I had fun. It took me a while to get the hang of it. <hes> and then i got demolished in. I got angry rage. Quit was gonna turn it back on. 'em play with miguel but he took forever for at <unk> so i stopped playing but it was fun. I'm looking forward to playing it when it comes out in in full campaign mode <hes> because i liked the mechanics <hes> i like the guns it give me. It took me a while to get used to just because i've been playing first person suitors on my computer a lot insurgency sandstorm shut up joe and <hes> looking forward to playing it when it comes. I guess as much accounting. Let the dogs out over okay so it sounds like yourself in the head with the microphone the <hes> so to me too i like jon said the gameplay felt really smooth. You felt like modern warfare used to feel you know how call duty has different feels like there's modern warfare just the way the game play style just feels different from blake black black ops. It felt really smooth <hes> new mechanics there's or less mechanic at least two to where if you're like behind a wall on on your kind of peking you can mount the wall looking over while you can mount on the wall that was youtube joe <hes> but yeah there. Is that a new mechanic <hes> in the to be to everyone is given the same weapons so both players on both teams have the same load out. There's like a five second cool down at the beginning of the match can't despondent. Throw a frag- to wait for it. <hes> weapons feel really good. They didn't feel super heavy on the kick. It felt pretty. Accurate is one of the one of the it must have been a desert eagle blur something because that thing had gnarly kick. There's desert eagle. Yeah i think that cake was ridiculous. Now one of the things i did really like if you hit the enemy <hes> your controller vibrates like if you act you could tell you hit them because you're controlled vibrate when you hit him at a notice that <hes> one thing that i know has gotten a lot of flack on and i'm not sure if i like it so called duty style every time you're to hurt you. Start seeing blood in front of your screen now along with that. Your screen touched starts turning black and white so not sure i feel about that. It's kind of weird because it has both effects. Why do you need both <hes> the maps. They were very well designed. I thought they were very small. Oh maps 'cause it's t._v. Too but they felt well designed and balanced. I thought it was. I enjoyed it <hes> last game. I played after john left her. John told me told me that he reached quit and i got on. I was like okay. I'm going to play another one. I'm gonna keep playing tyler's and then i went on a fucking winning streak for lake ten games and then lost but it's fun the <hes> against phil really good the attachments or really useful unhelpful. No it felt like modern warfare. It's been so long since i played modern warfare. I can't relate. I can't say it reminds me of what it was but i enjoyed it. <hes> look forward to do to get my computer xbox. I don't know we'll oh well. It's up to you like i said i felt like the p._c. Community for <unk> no matter just been black ops. There was nobody there when i went to play it again. Chris with the two v two of mode owed does that go up to a certain amount of points to respond or is it. You get killed your out type of deal or house as at work. Salima nation first esteem eliminated got it for. I two six rounds win it so they're six brown or gray each round. She got you start off. Each kashima has the same weapons and then the second round. You have the same weapons and then the third round changed your new load out same thing fourth-round shame weapons fifth round load up okay. That's where i got confused because i i was thinking office to veto elimination those real fast matches their while and then they're like what thirty second matches and once that thirty seconds ends us flag spawns in the middle of the map forcing you to go get the flag yup yup yup and on it for certain amount of time to capture it and hope the enemy team opposing team doesn't shoot you while you're standing presents yet a stand on it for three okay so it it eliminates people just camping out in their spawn. <hes> and i didn't really experience to begin with so gotcha. Tre cool all right so we're going to move on down to a random shit if you guys are done talking about the two two alpha on modern warfare yup all right so move on over random shit you guys have any random shit this week yup our john gopher buddy. We got tickets for <hes> the seahawks versus cardinals which actually brings up a what the fuck chris's brother <hes>. Where's my money. I've been asking him for the last few days and regret like i said regardless. I'm going to pay you on friday. Also i know i just wanted to bring it up yeah. What's your brother's name mike. That's my fuck mike. Where's my money at. I know man anyway so that my other rando i i watched alita battle angel and i i liked it. <hes> the plot was a little may i dunno it. Just didn't seem super solid but it ended with the no it didn't really end. Just the movie stopped so is there a going to be another one probably as i mean that's how they left. David has like what i'm confused what is going on. I assume there's going to be another one because the last scene is she wins that tournament so she gets to go to a place yeah will so her boyfriend falls off the two but then it's like what six a year later something however however long later and now she's winning turnament like okay well what happened between now and then why didn't she just go the rest of the way up there. She obviously can jump over those security things too many questions. I liked the concept story. It wasn't together in my opinion. I don't know anyway wash letters okay. My kids wanted to watch too much violence sifi saifi violence. I mean my kids equivalent of luke losing his hand. That's aw that's it. Anybody else have any random shit this week rise of skywalker kerr trailer gonna fucking awesome. I i saw it to wow. I'm excited for what for what for <hes> what's. Her name comes to the dark side so i thought that was don't home you think so. I thought it was pretty cool. Look bad ask very ending of that trailer. I was like holy fuck. It's at clone. I'm excited for double ended light. I don't think i think it i think it's a vision yeah just like luke head on <hes> dega qaba trading with iota and he sought yeah. I remember that he cut darth vader's at off yup yeah. I think that's what it's going to be so mostly. I just hope there's some dual side light sabers. I like her switchblade. Lightsaber that was cool as neto held a lot better than carlos funky as lightsaber yeah. It look bad ass as look like it's going to be dark but you're probably right jones disney. They're probably just making like a dream and so this is the last one yeah it's not gonna dark still unless they ended that way. I don't know ah news yep. It'll be <hes> interesting definitely definitely interesting any other any other horrendo- random random <hes> yeah i wanted to <hes>. Ask your thoughts on the whole hulu disney plus thing. It's it can happen in all of the m._c. You star wars shows that are going to be on disney plus. What are your thoughts. I mean i feel like i'm not super excited about any of the shows to be honest i <hes> we've been in this world where we have daredevil in all these other superhero shows that are episodic and eh. I don't know if it's something i personally want <hes> because he got han solo. You got wanda vision. You got <hes> doing a solo show show. I thought they were no obi wan obi obi one so i i don't know if it will be ones if it's like a true jedi jedi episodic show where there's light sabers and not lake fucking <hes> what was that movie between three and four ruben rowen like one of the best movies only because the i mean it's it's it's a great movie but when i watched star wars i want lightsaber battles djeddai and said you want the whole actional. Yeah i do light show a new so if it's going going to be episodic and there's not going to be very much in it than i could care less wanda vision screw vision but i'll watch elizabeth olsen any day. I mean there could be some good ones but i just feel like it's going to be so much time. Consumption not saying it's a bad thing i'm saying i don't really really want to dedicate all his time to all these fucking disney shows that could potentially have something to do with movies. Maybe just a tiny bit as i don't watch that many t._v. Shows so. I guess that's where i stand for me. It just depends on what show entices me to to buy that subscription plan. Sometimes all all love like what i did with youtube t._v. I bought it for a month just to watch the cobra kai series and then cancelled it so i might do that to one of these depending on if i get hooked into something so <hes> that's really it. I'm not gonna stick with it or anything because i have too many subscription services as it is and it's it's just crazy so john do you care note as as admiring my dad spiderman okay john <hes> i'm interested because it comes with hulu so like i said cancelled playstation vue i'll be picking up hulu <hes> uh-huh because disney plus comes with lou disney plus will have she hulk moon knight cloak and dagger. They're gonna bring back punisher. We're going to bring back their double and the defenders <hes> you have <hes> one divisions. You have the winter soldier during the falcon yes. I'm going to be watching these because realistically anything else on t._v. Is just filler anymore. I would just rather watch live action comic books because that's what is live action comic books happening every week and disney plus said that what they're gonna do is all of their shows are going to be episodic and they will be released weekly. They're not going to release the whole series at once so you will have to sit there and o._k. New week of of <hes> winter soldier in falcon comes out and so i'm interested because this will all lead into phase four or vase and five of the movies and i'm just i'm ready to be ready so so i guess too fucking much you know what it may be but star wars is coming to an end. This is it december. Is it like the star war. The skywalker saga is done. There won't be anything else vader skywalker array none of that shit. It's done <hes> so after that you have manned laurean and the o._b. One series so we know how it ends with obi wan but they're actually saying that they'll be one series is gonna take place between or from solo to him hiding <hes> for episode four so are you saying darth maul. They already said darth maul is going to be casted for. I'm so for over one series and and they're trying to park. They're trying to get ray park back as soon. I'm sorry in. I'm just i. I'm geeking out with this shit shit. I mean it's perfect time to be a geek a nerd for this comic books shit yes jong. I'm interested now okay. Here's the thing disney plus. If you get the hulu subscription it. They're they're doing a <hes> it. It's not released until november. They're gonna and a half discount. If you buy two years you get one year for free a whole year and that's still cheaper than net flicks. That's still cheaper than fucking the playstation vue pay two hundred dollars now. Get a year free later. I'm just saying yeah you're gonna forget the money but you won't have to worry about <unk> bills or cable bills in anything like that so and you'll be entertained and there's going to have there's enough shows plus. You get hulu so so my i think about my thing about who joe <hes>. Do you have it. Currently i had it but no. I don't have it now. Did you have the base plan because they have all these different plans in the baseman. It's like there's really nothing live. If there's no you wanna watch you wait a day. So if you're okay with that cool i have hulu free with with sprint right now. It's with ads and all that i hardly ever use it but i mean if there was something on a watch walking dead for example. Usually you have to wait and that's the part the noise me about hulu. Even you can't get live with the other version but i mean it's worth the price. I guess if yeah aside from disney plus portion my whole t._v. Experience watching t._v. is only d._v._r. If it's not d._v._r. I don't watch it a d._v._r. All my shows and then i watch him when i can <hes> other than that. I don't just turn on the t._v. And to sit there and flip through the channels because playstation can view in their guide sucks balls plus. I hate the fact that my preseason game comes on at five o'clock in the afternoon. I don't get to watch it until ten o'clock at night. Just fucking stupid. It's stupid. I mean yes if i liked the local team or if i like the cowboys i be able to watch it on t._v. On local not be other than that. I don't get to see my team so it's like verizon. Thank you n._f._l. Network i to watch it on my phone so so at this point. I'm just if it's not primetime. I'm just probably not going to go as far as like trying to get sunday ticket and trying to get a what is it the game pass for n._f._l. I may do that. It may be a cheaper option than getting sunday ticket. One hundred zero eight hundred bucks for your oliver game pass yeah ninety nine bucks not live. It's the stupidest thing about fucking met john. What were you gonna say a while ago. I was gonna ask the the characters in the marvel shows <hes> yester- soldier in falconer they played by the same actors. Yes molly <unk> go blank she hulk. They haven't decided yet. <hes> one of the things i posted on this comic book nerds on facebook and i got a a ton of likes for was the fact that i said with the current narrative now i said laverne cox should play she. Those will be donahue. Laverne cox is that is the transgender black african american woman that is in <hes> orange is the new black she was in in what i season choosing note or multiple you first and second season but yes she had big orange is the new black but she is a transgender woman woman and i said why not the narrative is right now. That's what's gonna happen. Disney is gonna try and do it. They're already making valkyrie a lesbian in character <hes>. There's already talks of a series coming out. It has a l._g._b._t._q. Character main character in it so <hes> yeah yeah john all the all the shows are going to be part of the all star were shows are going to be part of the star wars universe all the marvel shows those are going to be part of the m._c. You so it's whatever they're putting on disney pluses gonna it's cannon yeah. They're they're already talking about <hes> cannon in in means it actually exists. It's not fiction or yeah. It's not some science. Yes not some side story. I guess and they're trying to get kiana reeves. Yes <hes> they've been. They've been talking with <unk> to play a possibly moon knight but but they're they're trying to get him to play a few different characters <hes> right now <hes> what is it nathan fallon who did firefly he is the <hes> shoe shoe into play nova who was also if you didn't know this but in in game they show nova in the in the crowd those of you that donahue donahue nova is google so it there's a lot of shit happening right now and <hes> also kit harrington in angelina jolie will be playing a. the internals who are like the gods in marble so they're they're expanding this. They're blowing this wide open. Yes it's unfortunate that they can't have spiderman involved but i'm thinking that disney is going going to play their chess pieces perfectly and <hes> at any point that this disney hype or this marble falls falls disney's in case of emergency break glass by sony and guess what was coming back and spiderman doctor strange will be coming <hes> to the different universe and taking spiderman and say come with me. If you want to leave anyway yes we go on a side note semi related but not really related joe harley early quin animated series thoughts. Why not you're gonna watch it. If it's on the dc shit no it's on on the days. Have you seen it though ooh robbie. No it's animated oh. I missed that part. It's <hes> it's it's the only thing that's the only thing that d._c. Does right is there animated shit. There live action shit and has been rated r. hawking phoenix you motherfucker <hes> yeah. You wanna talk shit about marvel. Go fuck yourself and your stupid as joker movie dick face anyway so i got to say go go look up. The harley animated series after this podcast i will. I'm done any other random shit here. We get more shirts made joan. I are still what kind of working on who we're gonna pull of get him through <hes> and <hes> yes we are. We're just we're working on it so i know we've i know he's been working on designs and they look pretty dope so <hes> stay tuned if we if we do shirt campaign will probably do podcast shirt or the podcast logo the gamer talk logo. We'll probably do that first and then work on different shirts later depending on the quality and the t shirt printer we wanna see what the sources with a gamer talk logo i first and if it turns out good then we'll continue with that source so we are not making sleeveless shirts on. Oh you can buy one sleep you. You can make a sleeveless. All you want to yes okay any other random shit now all right so maybe we should answer. <hes> listeners email talk a little bit about stadia information for jason right. That's your brother yeah okay. We was until he didn't enter. Dan contrast jason my life i mean i love your brother. So i have some information on stadium here. I mean we we've have talked about stadium before. I know joe's brought it up. In the news right. Now you can preorder the founders pack which is one hundred twenty nine dollars and that comes with <hes> whereas ah i'm not ready here. We go comes with chrome cast ultra. It also comes with a limited edition night blue stadia controller three months of stadia pro for you and a friend first dibs at your stadium name and then you get the destiny to collection and that's the founders pack. <hes> probably the biggest pack that you can get. There's actually a cool function that i thought was cool. They're intertwined with youtube right now so you're able to you if you're a streamer you're able to have a it's called the audience button so any of your audience members. That's watching you stream just with the click of button they can join you in game play when you're streaming which i thought was was really cool. That's one of the new features that i think is only for stadia in its intertwined with youtube. You can purchase controllers for sixty nine dollars each if you wanted to separate controller <hes> and i it only runs with google products right now so you'd be running with like <hes> the pixel three i think it is or any other google products. I have the game list here. It's not it is big as i thought it would be. I can go over those if we're interested john question on the website. What what is the pixel the google product what is that for so phone so you can plate on the pixel book pixel x._l. The pixel slate and on a tv tv using the <hes> chrome cast ultra so chrome cast as well as the stadium. Yes it's all right now. It's only on google products yeah because the stadia is stadium is just it's not a console. You have to stream it to your device somehow and right now yes. Yes you have calms the chrome cast. It comes with it. Yes in the in the founders pag comes with the ultra. Which is i guess you can play four. K. is what the ultra does if you have a four k. t._v. But most of them will come with a chrome cast for your t._v. So so i know <hes> butters preordered his stadium already. Yeah miley thing with the stadium is when it all comes down to it. Yes it's great. It's a great machine or it's a great service but it all comes down to your internet. It sure does if you have shitty internet because they're not using what is it does does new orion or <hes> whatever that software that they're working on if they're not using that software it's not going to be great because those of us that have the s. l. connections or shitty internet. You're not gonna be able to take take full advantage of this product yeah virtual so i mean yes if you're in a great area with great internet by all means play the stadium. Let us know how it is. Let us know how many games you can't play <hes> because the game list is small <hes> for right now but i know they're trying to jump in the market but i just don't know i just i don't know so right now. They're saying at launch. Stadia will allow you to stream games up to four k. Quality and sixty frames per second in the future google says says that allow streaming in eight k. to one hundred and twenty frames per second in other words. It'll be just as powerful as an xbox one x at launch in only get better in time but like joe said you need good internet for this to happen miguel. I was gonna say. Is it fair to call say it'll be just as powerful full as an xbox one ex. You're not getting a system. It's a survey computer running. This game that you're playing is often thailand island. Who knows it's off somewhere else. You're not getting your own machine. That's as powerful as an xbox one x because it's just streaming video go to your screen and sending the inputs from your controller to a computer somewhere in area fifty one right and this is what we're anticipating going off of this. They're actually stating that. It's going to be just as powerful as an xbox one x at lunch but we'll see it all depends like like we've been talking about about internet speeds. I just feel like they can't make the claim that it's just as powerful as an xbox one. They can say that it's equivalent to the quality the quivalent but i don't think they can say it's what you're getting. Physically is as powerful as an xbox. One is not with you know for sure i i. I totally agree with you too. Just because of the way the inputs are going through and what you just explained. It makes total sense so we're gonna theory. It could be that that great sorry to interrupt. No you're fine in theory because we realistically the technology is not out right now for eight k. T._v.'s correct. I mean you. You can get a cake t._v. If you want to spend eight thousand dollars for a t._v. that does that does four k. Because the tech the benchmark is not there right now how so for them to make these these not false promises but just to make blowing smoke up. Everybody's ass to make a buck to me is not a good sales. Dell's business plans. Not it's just like you know your your hyping. It's the hype life. Unfortunately i'm gonna go through the games list real quick <hes> they're basically this is what google stating right now so stadium works with the existing third party games that you'd expect to find on any gaming wing console. Let's see here the games list right now. A no eighteen hundred assassin's creed odyssey attack of the titan to final battle will baldur's gate three which believes exclusive for stadium. I don't think it's even on u._s._c. So beyond good and evil borderlands three cyberpunk twenty seventy seven dark siders genesis destiny to destroy all humans dum dum eternal dragon ball zeno zeno verse too far cry five far cry new dawn farming simulator nineteen final fantasy fifteen football manager for honor. Get packed grid guilt. Just dance twenty twenty marvel's adventure metro exodus mortal combat eleven n._b._a. Two k. orcs must die three power rangers battle for the grid rage to rise at the tomb raider samurai showdown shadow of the tomb raider. They put that twice. Oh never mind right that rise yeah steep super hot the crew to the elder scrolls online thumper tomb raider definitive edition. Tom clancy's ghost recon breakpoint. Tom clancy's rainbow six siege. Tom clancy's splinter cell blacklist. Tom clancy's division two trials rising watchdogs legion and wolfenstein young young blood in that is it yes. What is this dark siders genesis you speak of it's new. It's a new one. It's i don't. I don't know if they're making exclusive for google stadium but it's going to be for the switch p._s. Four stadia windows in everything basically but it's it's <hes> <hes> i'm trying to figure out who it is because it's not fury because she was the last one right it <hes> trying to think hold on hold on hold on strife strife. I didn't know there were already set for another game. It's the fourth horseman of the apocalypse strife. Six strife will also team up with his brother war so release date is somewhere nineteen. That's all it says and it's only forty bucks. I'm confused on this. If this is like a true release lake is side got chains of olympus game or whatever i want to do some more research on that one yeah topped out. Oh it says top down hack and slash top fuck yeah. It says it's a top top-down hack and slash r._p._g. For the switch well yeah. It's like a switch game but it's fun to p._s. Four xbox one stadia and p c yeah windows house. That's funny so also with the services that you can get with stadia <hes>. They're talking about if you're an e._a. Fan they don't they're or not if e._a. Access is going to be involved with stadium right now so anything e._a. Access wise you may not get stadia until unless they say something later on down the road but ubisoft. You play pluses available so you'll be able to get that but just remember. I believe these are all separate subscriptions that you're going to have to pay. It costs fourteen eighteen ninety nine a month for that ubisoft plus. I believe in a grant you access over two hundred titles from the you play store whatever it is so they're adding saying that in <hes> let's see anything else that i want to add for google stadium right now other than you can go online and check their basic packages ages and stuff that they have right now that keep talking about the founders pack and they're probably just trying to get more people to buy into this thing. <hes> i mean you get a free game with it but it's just fucking destiny to. It's not really anything great <hes> in my opinion. I know some people love that game so <hes> they have a stadium. It'll set you back nine dollars ninety nine a month. It's the ultimate way to experience switches. The four k. resolution sixty f frame rate five point one surround sound. They're just keep talking about the founders pack here and then in the countries that will be released in belgium canada denmark france germany ireland italy netherlands norway spain sweden u._k. And united states so all those those other countries will have better internet than the u._s. So they'll enjoy the experience then what we'll have but i also read something with microsoft that <hes> <hes> what's his name he came out and spencer. Fuck is named now. I can't remember his name. How would this phil spencer yeah. Hey sorry joe. I'm fucking. It's i'm sweating like crazy over here. It's hot as shit in my room but <hes> phil came in and he was talking about the streaming services. Not we're not there yet. He's saying marcus not there yet. They're not releasing any streaming services or anything like that or a streaming box. It's all gonna be sheer hardware. It's all going to be power straight coming from the microsoft consoles itself which x. cloud which means yeah but he's really saying that it's not they're. They're just like testing getting all that stuff. I don't know if you read about this but he did. Come out and say that and you know it's it's not even on their plan right now as far as anything but they're just working on hardware. We're like the scarlet and stuff like that so for me as a gamer that makes me happy that they're still doing this and i don't have to worry about internet speed with stadia so john on you want to add anything with stadium or for your brother. No okay well. I care about jason jason. You should buy it and then i'll compla- it and and you can tell me what you think and i'll relay the information with what i think to the podcast there you go so there it is. That's the information mation that i got from stadia to talk about for my rando. It really don't have anything else. <hes> do. You guys have anything else before. It closes up. Nope nope all right. This is going to wrap. This is episode number. One fortieth says chris. I'm going to go place. Fallout seventy six out of here is john. I'm gonna go put my kids in bed and maybe i'll get on insurgency again miguel. I'm going to go do nothing this joe. I'm hungry. I'm gonna go eat and then. I'll play something game on game on game on. It works mm-hmm.

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 535 The League is Turning Upside Down (3-14-2019)

GSMC Football Podcast

44:53 min | 1 year ago

GSMC Football Podcast Episode 535 The League is Turning Upside Down (3-14-2019)

"Keep yourself in the loop of everything football on the Golden State media concepts football podcast, your latest news on and off the field. Be it college football big ten SEC big twelve Pac twelve ACC to the NFL with got you covered. Listen to the Golden State media. Cut sets football podcast. GMC football podcast brought to GMC podcast network. I'm your host Jeff balance lettuce get right into it. So with the chiefs signing the Honey badger to a forty two million dollar contract and have a safety the cut ties there berry. The five time pro bowler is now on the market. And I think he's gonna get picked up really soon. He's still he's injury prone. Absolutely. He was kinda riddled with injuries last season. He's a question, Mark. But I don't know why won't be such the worst idea to have a one year Provea deal with them. Honestly, I see that as a potential possibility and. With that being said. Are the chiefs better with the Honey badger than Eric berry? Because honestly, it was the defensive scheme that kind of caused them wasn't just a particular player or particular the defense the team the town the diva ties on the field. They had Eric berry. Go one on one with gronkowski. And they as championship game multiple times and never worked gronk kicking the ball. Tom Brady kept saying, oh, look there's grunk out playing a guy. He out sizes by like a good foot. It looks like any he also out. He's also more strong stronger than he is he could probably out. He probably can catch it outside of that all that outside of all the. Outs. Okay. Outside the reach of Eric berry. It just was a bad. It was just a bad mismatch which led to. Airfare unable to stop gronkowski in the AFC championship game which led to the patriots winning and let him go into the Super Bowl in winning a six one. So. With that being said is it? His fault about his poor play against the patriots. What's the poor defensive skinny was in? I would honestly put it on the scheme rather than the player itself. But again, I could be totally wrong in that in that circumstance. And you know, it just feels like to me that there's more potential in Iraq berry. There's still more left on the tank very very than most people realize whoever picks him up. He could still be a quality starting to get still get the job done for the the team. He gets signed to. I mean, a one year deal may be two year deal. But I I wouldn't go to four year deal. Obviously. I wouldn't go. I would say maybe three. I think three's a a safe bet in that circumstance. So. I don't know it just it's a tough subject, obviously to go on tough subject to strong word. But just it's a tough thing to really utilize say, what's his main strengths is. He still is he's still can you stay healthy throughout the season as well. I think that's also a big factor in this. So with that being said, I think he can be a big factor. I think he's still can't be a big playmaker for a team can boost up a defense. Like he can't make it any worse defense. Right. I mean, he's not that. He's not to have a player. He's player. They'll make them better one way or another either is like just motivational skills or on his on the field skills. I think it just can work either way or both ways. But to me, I just feel more along the lines of how. How? Eric berry kinda got kinda got. Kind of the swept the rugs snatched underneath them while nuts. Halting I thought berries, give me a chief life, but doesn't look like three that way. I mean, I don't think he's gonna retire. But I am assuming he's going to get time. Another team. And with that being said what team is gonna go to. I'll see a team with needed with in need of a lot of help on defense. Of course. So I mean, maybe a team that's a win. Now state. I would assume it's really hard to tell where he end of going if he goes anywhere, busy, my we might just like call a career retire because he's he's been league for that long. So it's really hard to say how everything's really going to play out with with the Eric berry and his future in the NFL. I mean, I guess maybe the AFC doesn't find any one. But I doubt it will go down that low, and I just think that. Matthew is era. Methyl is of the Honey badger is a better is a busy younger and he's in his prime and less injury prone. I believe and I think it just be a best bet if he's they move on from berry. But I think other teams should really look at Eric berry. And really take advantage of the fact that he's a free agent and signed him. I really do. I think he'd be a great dish in any team. I think he has what it takes through. Well in this in the NFL. Despite all the entries and despite the cancer he overcame. Fortunately. It's just one of those things where it's like, you gotta get this another opportunity. He has the talent to be better than he is right now. That's how that's how I truly feel at least. So that being said at least I thinking where Eric berry. He will be signed by. Let's say Sunday I will say you'll be signed by Sunday. And I'm standing by that standby. I really am. And. The bottom line is for this particular cut. It's probably one of those prising cuts of the year. Like, I knew they sign the free safety Honey badger nothing. Okay. They can just guess Eric just give you the backup over there or split time with him. But now they just outright cut them. So. You know what what team should have? I write Cottam zeal giants in Eli manning. But they currently have kept him in the loop. He's apparently they planned all this out. And he's going to still be there starting quarterback. But that's not the biggest news. The thing. That's really like Trinita league. Upside down to me is a fact that the Browns are Super Bowl contender everyone sick. And the patriots are not gonna go back to Super Bowl. The Steelers are not doing good. They look like they are in a in a down in serious down themselves. And you know, it just. It seems more along the lines of just a. It seems more along the lines of just like is this? Is the beginning of a new era in the NFL? And I honestly think it is. New teams for new new teams gaining serious momentum game serious. Like leverage. I guess maybe ledger is the wrong word, but just like the the Browns are improving so much impressing everybody, and I mean, everybody that watches football. Everyone's oppressed that the Browns are heaven proved so much getting an all pro for steam, all pro wide receiver. No Beckham junior. Getting Kareem hunt having Trump as well. Baker Mayfield Jarvis Landry that offense looks pretty stack to me and thirteen and three is still what I'm considering. They're going to be this season due to a fairly weakened AFC north except for the ravens who Bruce their defense by getting Earl Thomas, but yes, law CJ Moseley and tros AG's, but they also gain marking the running back position which may help the mar- Jackson. And not giving him as many snaps running. The ball is often these he was before. Because let's be honest. Lamar jazzy. Can I run the ball thirty times game? He's going to get her big time if that's gonna happen. So having a strong bruiser back. Mark Ingram can only benefit the read option that hopefully they will use with the ability of the Mark Jackson and the ability of marking grim, but we'll see what they come up with on thinking that the railings will take a wildcard spot. But I still see the Browns winning they'll entire division. And it's just a fun. It just a weird time to be around. You know, just like like when you think of. We knew think of elite teams in the NFL the Browns of the last person on your list the Jaguars. Well, the times are probably pretty low in. They're also you put alive teams up there as a team coming from the brink of insanity. Two now at brink of success. Like the Jaguars they have now the six seven pick in the draft which say, I don't think they will need to go for quarterback anymore projected, but they do add boost to they're already steadied in elite defense or help out Nick foles and get them like a wide receiver or something. I'm not sure, but there's plenty of opportunities and plenty of possibilities for these new ball clubs that are getting more and more talented. I mean, even the jets got a big linebacker CJ Moseley as well as arguably the best running back in the game in into Neo Brown. So I really don't know how else to react to this. It just seems so unreal. That all these teams that we really looked at as. What's what's the word below underdogs? I mean that was them, basically. And then they become a serious contenders in their own respected divisions. Maybe not the raiders, maybe not the cheese. Definitely. The California teams that have done well like four Niners up their defense as well. And it just seems like all the TS to do better doing getting better. And that's the beauty of the sport. And that's this game. And I'm really looking forward to see what else happens in this season. I got my phone on me. Just as anything it signed today. I'll check right now, actually speaking that that will. Any no the unexpected NFL draft. Like, we're looking at the giant says potentially driving doing Haskins. How state if culinary does go number one overall, which seems like that is included as well. But really don't know what the outcomes are going to be in other of those question marks that they have. But regardless I think it's one along the lines of. I guess I guess patients when it comes down the offseason because you want the season star now, but it's not so you just gotta bite your tongue away to wait just a little bit longer. But we're going to short break right now when we come back I want to I want to talk more about. Josh Rosen and him potentially being a New York China in the future. We'll get right on that. When we return. Are you looking for help for your fantasy football team? Check out the GMC fantasy football podcast. Get today's best advice to start who to sit even who you should draft from sleeper. Paixao red hot lineups. They got it all covered for you. That's GSM. See podcasts dot com slash fantasy. Dash football dash Fahd cast. We'll cover traditional leagues dynasty PR. Even I impede leads when you need fantasy. Hope there's just one show to hit up. Don't forget to like on Facebook and follow them on Twitter. Visit GS MC podcast dot com. For more info. Welcome back. Everyone of the GS MC football podcast. We just finished talking about some other stuff that can happen in the world of football. As it turns upside down with all these free agency moves now, let's get more discussed much frozen as he is tied with the New York Giants at the moment as there are their thoughts of the cardinals going for calamari with the first overall pick. But that's it's so hard to tell because they Josh Rosen from last year. But if they do. Trey Josh Rosen the best possible place probably the best seller. They're gonna get is the near giants. And the thing with that is. The best place for Josh Rosen is sitting behind a quarterback does what kind of horror back just sitting behind a quarterback and just taking a rest for a season Rena playbook understanding defensive schemes against those your offense and working from there. You can get better by observing. You can get better by doing homework, you get better. But so, and so you know, what I mean, it just feels like you don't need to be on the field as a starter to really improve. You can be off-field improve. In more ways than one. So. That's how I see mainly there. But while mine for Judd, Josh Rosen is he's gonna go. If he does go to team in New York, the giant. And he does and he says buying Brady. He can improve Brady's me li- any can improve. I mean, so many great quarterbacks have had short breaks one season two seasons or three and seriously improve Aaron Rodgers petro home. So the too I think about and they're they've been both NFL MVP's. So it's one of those things you're looking at it and going, wow, maybe we should look at resting our quarterback and not play him right away. As soon as we drive to put him into lion's den where he can risk injury lose a ton of confidence and all his other things. Like, wow, this wasn't as easy as I thought it was going to be type of scenario where they join. And they know what they're getting those into. So that being said, it seemed that Jerry Kim was very okay with the process. I was going on. I think because he's getting overnight zeal tear injury. Garoppolo Oris an ACL tear as Cornell now Guinea over and. ACL tear. They all have something to prove the all have this chip on their shoulder. And I think they all come in with a lot of confidence. And with that being said fight between like, let's let's let's let's look at this. If the giants get Rosen in the next two years are the playoff team. No. But if Josh Rosen a sitting out those two years, then it comes back midway through that midway through that season or the next season. Why can't he be improved quarterback? Why can't he be a better quarterback? Let's face it the team he was on the cardinals. They were terrible. Their offense. Align was awful. He couldn't get a throw off in time. He had like two or three seconds in the pocket at heights of all someone was after him like he had a scramble insanely fast. So that's why I'm putting hesitant when I'm thinking about like people saying, oh, he didn't throw the vulgar. Well, all these other flaws that he had regarding his regarding Josh Rosen in his first year as incorrect for the cardinals. But I feel you can't blame him for the majority of that stuff due to the fact of like how poor that team was in general, and you can't just put it on the rookie quarterback. You gotta put others responsible. And that's that's one of the head coach fired him, not sure, but he was held responsible for those actions. For those words that horrible record. They have for the first overall pick they have. And now you're in a big question. Go saying like, okay. Would we do? Now type both types. Oreo. So that being said. I honestly think Josh Rosen. Call from heaven is him going to the near giants in a trade. Him being behind manning at the end of his career. I'm not saying many as like this amazing quarterback. I'm seeing using average quarterback at best and below average at worst. And he's always packs problem. And with that being said if you go to and if you learned from his mistakes and move on into the giants number one quarterback, and you become a leader new become more of a leader. Like that in a sense then. Yes, then that could also definitely work when it comes down to it because we all know that you many has been criticized in the past and it's never been a good criticizing. It's always been like, his leadership skills or something or play and Joshua's. If you learn from his criticisms and do something great with that. You know, what I mean, it just seems like more like you can learn from his mistakes rather than learning from like his? Detriments are learning from his accomplishments because he doesn't really have any accomplishments doesn't have he's only been the Pro Bowl four times in his career. And he's been league since doesn't four that is a terrible. Like, that's not very good at all the guy. That's putting playing for that long. You expect like ten pro bowls are eight to ten pro bowls. I mean, I'm being nice what eight part, but man four. That's it come on. You gotta be better than that. You got to be better than that. And that's just my honest opinion when it comes down to it and. If if the giants do acquire Josh Rosen, then allies fighting for his job. Maybe not I don't know. But I have a gut feeling that when it comes down to it. You know, it's thinking about just now I thought about this just now the the jets are better than the giants right now. Like, usually it's like the jets are the bottom of the New York franchises. But you know, what the dishes of lithium Bill and CJ Moseley. And I think I think they're better than the giants. And now the giants are in dire straits because they're going to be the bottom of the team in New York City. And it's so weird. Actually, it's so weird thing about this. Just now. But is there one good team in New York? I mean Brooklyn decent the near islanders in the NHL are pretty good. But like is there like, oh, that's the best team in that particular sport. I don't think there is. I think they're average or below average at times, and that's truly incredible based off if we're talking about like signings free agencies, the New York destinations should be loaded should be like everyone wanna play there for the market time. And would that being said like people are leaving those teams rather than the joining those teams? And that's putting a big dent on every organization of all the New York City. In more poorly. This really affects the giants, and you know. Have anyone throat to at the moment. He doesn't have a really good running game. At the moment. He doesn't have. A defense that can really hold the team to stop points. He's just kind of predicament at the moment the giants are in a predicament of being like like who knows they could go in sixteen. I mean that wouldn't that would surprise me, obviously. But it'd be like, you know, what the talent they have that make sense the third team in NFL history. Go and sixteen. Sure, let's go with that. You know, let's go with go with the chances. Let's roll the dice showy. Let's let's let's see if. They're that bad. And you know, it doesn't like even with CJ Moseley and Levy on the jets. We don't know if the if that is going to boost their team they selene that they have a rookie or a first year quarterback. They still have. Kind of trouble. They're off its line. Receiving core. Could be better. I mean, there's still a lot of holes to fill with the near jets. But overall, they both help those teams out. And I was not as worse as near giants are. But we are get take a short break when we come back. We will talk about every other remaining free agent in the NFL and go into detail and who needs them, and who I they need them in other things of that nature, and we'll be right back when we get back to you. Check out the show that's built on the from UFC two extreme cage fighting they got the fights covered. Check out their GSM. See 'em a podcast. Get the latest news on past or off coming fights. Join us as we talked to in about some of the biggest names in 'em past president future. When it's the fight game. There's just one show to check out GMC podcast dot com slash M. E dash podcast. Don't forget to like Facebook and follow them on Twitter. Visit GSM seeing podcast dot com. For more info. Everyone of the MC football podcast. Let's look at the free agents that are available shall we? Because that's important, and we need to discuss who's available left and who is going to be going where possibly. So you already have a bunch of guys that are taken sounds defensive sounds like a Facebook profile taken. Anyways with the current lers. They're still. Well, with the sign players, of course, most guy with the highest signing the most money is Trey flowers to to Detroit with a ninety million dollar five year contract, which is pretty insane all things considered. But like we still have Ezekiel from Detroit that if it's been there who's a huge in the market new Domine consume who is a free agent contract with the Rams expired. He could be huge boosts indifference a line. We do have claim out actually still end Jimmy Collins and just in Houston three veteran lined Outside Linebackers. I could really get the job done. All three out. Yeah. They all through all Outside Linebackers. They're all could be definite veteran presence in teams offense and dangerous for if you're looking at a certain direction, so with that being said, there's also like Randall cobs available Josh mccown. He's uncertain she wants to play again. Let's see seen anyone else's nailed entree are Brandon Marshall linebacker from Detroit or Denver, excuse me. Available to be picked up, and you know, Beykal Crabtree. Derek Morgan, you know him. Gold tate. Teddy Bridgewater who still able visiting the dolphins because he's worried about his head coach trumping going to Dallas in twenty twenty. So he's having second thoughts. What staying there and tiny in extension? Jared cook tight end for the Oakland Raiders experts successful identities in questions or is in the train market. And is probably gonna be asked questions like that. It's well, and it just seemed. It seemed to me that there are a lot of potential free the signings left, and we've only a couple days, of course, world like what one full bay into the rate into the official season. So that's something to be interested to think about, but also I just want to say like that there's a huge advantage when it comes down to like. When it comes down to the Cleveland Browns. If you can go back to them having to LSU players who are teammates and roommates now on the same team again brings in chemistry for Baker Mayfield. Which means that team even better with Nick Chubb in the backfield. And they went cream hunt. Suspensions up is ever Lee announced his suspension, we really don't know how long it's going to be gone for it. Why can't they seem about thirteen three? I go higher fourteen to let's do it right now fourteen and to you know, you know, it's not crazy to think about because talent to the Browns are on defense in on offense. And with that being said. You know, thinking about the freidan seen how much it's already changed info drafters pretty insane all things considered because of the fact that like we really don't know what the mock draft is anymore. Like it used to be call him Nick Bosa going one two, but who knows what the mall trapped is now in the NFL post first day of of. The first day of what am I the on the first day of free agency and the regular season officially beginning. Because people still see it's taking collar Murray. Number one in the question to me is like shouldn't he be like pushing for wide receiver and frequency or offense a weapons of free NT notches, Terrell. Suggs, you know, I just feel like there's so many were often for them to go after key players on the office side that could really boost their team up if they're gonna go after with another rookie quarterback and maybe their franchise quarterback in in. What's his face in column? Ary what's his face? Don't you hate that? When you go like, you can't you've said, there's you said the name multiple times. Just can't remember save your life. What's his name a frustration? I always think it's pretty funny. But regardless let's take a look at the wide receivers that are actually available free and see what the cardinals can do if they're going to draft collar Marie of how they can help him out in the long run. So let's check this out right now right here. Thanks again. The sports spot track for gimme olien formation. I need so for available and in the wide receiver department. We have we select Damari Thomas who did tears Aquiles. So he's probably not going to be a pickup rental. Cobb is possible pickup for the cardinals. Take advantage of that situation. Have another him and Larry shield not in their prime still veteran presences for column to throw to be good. Peer are song. Michael crabtree. Golden tate. Ryan grant remain curse. Kevin y Mike Wallis. Aren't you guys? Actually, it just seems that there's a lot of. There's a lot of wide receivers of able in this free agent market. A lot. Holy moly guacamole. Okay. You just keep scrolling around keeps going just it doesn't stop date refuses to stop. I tell ya and. Yeah, just weird instant, and but with if I had to pick one of these freedoms I able in the white or to market to really boost the cardinals receiving core and help out their future quarterback in column at that's where they're going for. You know, you're gonna have veteran presence in Larry FitzGerald, and you can get like Germain curse or Ryan grant, Kevin white or Cody Latimer or something like that where he doesn't need to be a barn burner. But he just needs to be a contributor in that might be the contributors you need to really compliment both lay and column Murray. And also in the backfield running game is big question Mark as well. So let's look at the Vail running backs in the dry in the free agent market and see who they can pick up. I know they David Johnson. But. I don't remember less play even a half a season. So Tennessee marshawn Lynch has yet Crowell Powell to the jets running backs. Jonathan Stewart Corey grant, Gary Braun Spencer. Where'd are all in the? In the draft. So that's pretty exciting. These had him on my fantasy teams one time some of these guys, and I they can go back and forth. Spencer wears also bailable the plunged also visible. Doug Barnes, dense froze, also vailable if the carnal can get a decent running back in a decent wide receiver. I think they could they can make some noise. I really do if they drive column Murray. They don't think you've just Rosen that might still be in the air is really unknown at this time what the differences are in both of them. But I think Colin marriages has more talent than Jerry golf. But again. Is not to decide this. So. Yeah. Oh, so with that being said if I had a pickup running back to take right now to help me boost my team, I might have goes fence aware. I think I think underrated running backs league. I know he was behind Kareem hunt in cream just stole the show. All the all that. But he did it very visit decent job as he can catch the ball and run the ball. Why not go for a guy like that? But that's just my personal opinion. But we're gonna take a short break when we come back. We're talking about the defensive availability in the NFL draft will be right back right after this. Don't go away. Out the show built around the women of 'em from the UFC to the extreme cage fighting we got the fights cover the Golden State media concepts women's MMA podcast. The latest news coming fights discussions. Previous matches join us as we talked to in about the biggest names that women's mixed. Martial arts past present and future. When it's the women's fight game. You know, where to listen to the Golden State media concept's women's MMA podcast. Welcome back. Everyone GS. Football podcast finishing up the day here. It's the final countdown. Did it do I can say this now because marks here, and he hated it. So did it do did it do? Did it dude? It do. Did it? Did it do? We're heading moving. Okay. Sorry. That's on my head. Now. It's a good song. I why I've always liked the song. So. Regardless of that moving onto like I said the defensive players are still available in the in the free market that could really boosts teams will meant boost their. Momentum. But boost there. Just their team in general. I guess. Yeah. That makes more sense. And would that being said, let's. Let's take a look at the defensive free agents that are available to you know, the mainland got signed. They're all like huge. Huge. Contracts, and you can't really do anything about that. So going to the defensive side for who's available. We do have ends. I the Detroit defensive end is going to be huge boost. But one of the guys I wanted to talk about because I. That's all ready. But one of the guys are really wanted to talk with like is he's pretty underrated. But he's also. I mean, he is up there in age of you need a. Presence. I guess you can say. Then maybe not him. I was going to rain Brock, maybe not. It's so hard to decide base. All these other running backs. There's really era defensive players. I mean, there's also glor- Quinn from Detroit Darian Stewart from a jersey Zac Brown from. So honestly, yes, you you're a lot of those because men there were a lot of unhealthy teams last year, and they really need to get back into the spur things where they can really improve where they could really. Not get hurt. I guess is the question, of course, football place where you're going to get hurt. There's a good chance you'll get hurt because of how impressive the defense is in there and professional they've in trainers while. And with that being said. About thirteen hour ago. Thirteen hours ago there was an introductory press conference for in Tonio Brown holding up his razors. E it looks weird. Like it's black which is like I get because he was black and yellow before. Now, it's black and silver which seems just off to me that he signed with them. Any actually did surprise Carson Wentz? Not Carson Wentz. Use me Derek cars while in his home in their car. Look, so confused disease in sweat pants and a jacket, and he goes, what are you doing here man like and Antonio Brown's Dresden, I sous surprise my boy here, and he's like what's going on. It's like it's like in the office where Michael and the guy that played by will Ferrell, I forget what his name is. But he Mike from the office hands people imitations to the Dundee's, and he gets to the Dundee's. And that's just how I see attorney Brown holiest jersey. It just doesn't fit right. But it's like it's almost like it's made for somebody else. That's how I kinda atoll. I kind of took it. It's very intro. Situation to be share for. That's the that's the that's the that's the bottom line there. I think just for any team. I think for any player, especially just when they go to a new team, they have New Jersey and everything usually it's the same number, of course. But I don't know with the guy like in twenty Brown the guy like a franchise player and was like a window Beckham junior holds up his Browns jersey. It's to be weird. It's gonna be like unusual be like, I'm not used to this like. I'm gonna make another reference again, there's a family guy episode where Peter makes say Peter makes a all guys club like made out of his house. He put a big chunk of his house in made into like, a guy's club kinda shed, and it's dewey's room. And he goes on with the house. I don't like change in. I'm like, oh, that's that's mean, a nutshell. Like, it's it's like, I'm fine with change. We I'm just like I don't like chain like that tone of voice. He goes like, I don't like this it just that's kind of how it feels like I don't like change, and this is too much change. And man the Steelers are just looking at fans are looking at both the jets and the in the Steelers in just like in disgust of just how they stole to the best players in the on their team arguably. So it's funny how things work out the way home. It's funny how things turn out. And but I guess the main question between that is who is the better team. Now is the jets including Levy on Bill or is it the raiders including into Neo Brown that is yet to be determined because it's really hard to tell based on how weekday were landed the year before. And I think what the addition CD Moseley. The jets are going little bit over the top on that one just out of that at of that like question between them and the raiders, but I'm not expecting the raiders onto the the playoffs. Like one hundred percent like they'd probably still could obviously. But I'm not saying moral. I'm seeing more along the lines of just like, you know, let's not counting out yet. But it's on likely. That's the jets, right? That was the jets last season. And then they kept dropping and dropping dropping same as Redskins to be honest with you. And it just goes to show that. When it comes down to it. When it comes down to your. Your like who got the better deal longer on the jets in the Steelers. It seems to me or the jets Steelers or the ravens, of course, to the globe that they just traded up threat fifth third and fifth for twenty Brown in the totally got out of the two guys basically be the other guy Levy bells free agent, and they couldn't they didn't franchise tag him. So he could have done whatever he wanted. It's funny. How things work out, you know. But overall if I guess those two records. I'm gonna go with. Let's see let's says to jets I I'm going to say nine seven no playoffs. But would CJ Moseley on Bill? I'll see in nine seven record winning record not playoff not playoff-bound but still season Optima stick in optimism going. Hey, we did good this year. Let's see we can carry it on and do well in the and again and this time win the AFC's to waive from the evil patriots the l'empire if you will. Gushes lot hate for them. Like that. Would they mainly speak on the patriots? What they've mainly done is just. We signed guys. I'd only signed one big name, particularly I think resign a lot of guys. And of course, if you won the Super Bowl, why would you wanna change that kind of factors? So it makes sense of the long run that the only one that they the Steelers wise, I'm sorry. The jets will bear them as ploughs next year, and then look into a great setup for the year after and so that being said. Xanthos? Let's talk about. I mean, I could look. But. Regardless. Let's move to the Browns real quick though. Because I have an interesting question who has the better trio the Texans or the Browns because I know the Texas have watched Hopkins fuller, which is a great trio. But now with the with the Browns having Mayfield Odell and that in Landry who are college roommates. And all that stuff does that make their chemistry more better between the two wide receivers which makes it easier to make plays if you're Baker Mayfield. And I had to say I'm going to go with that Brown setup over the Texans set up not because of the fact they're better, I would say they're pretty equal considered. And I will never complain having one of them. But when it comes down to the. Bike who's the better show? Who's gonna be more productive trio? I might have ice thing. I gotta go with the Cleveland Browns. And it's so weird to Clint like to praise Cleveland Browns team and go like they're so good. And this and that because we've been so used to their the they've been the league's punching bag for like feels like decades, it probably it has been decades, and we still and then all of a sudden this offseason completely turned the tide. The new of course, like firing Hugh Jackson was also a huge boost to that as well. But regardless it was like it was almost like huge exit was holding them back and they exploded afterwards. I mean, look who got fired from from Cincinnati. And I think he still unemployed. Let's check a few checks employed. We haven't talked about him in a while. It was fun to talk about him as well. And he is unemployed at the moment, and rightfully so. Because my gosh. Who would give him a job after this? I mean, his regulars head coaching record is low and forty four and one. So I mean, I don't think he's going anywhere based on coach base on coaching job. Maybe not. I'm not sure. But guardless, I think that should be our show today. 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RTFF #309:  Week 7 (Part 2)

Fantasy Feast: 'Eatin

30:21 min | 2 years ago

RTFF #309: Week 7 (Part 2)

"It's time to eat in my Bella sit down and get ready to consume in abundance of fantasy football knowledge from Russ Tucker. And Evan Silva me so hungry on the fantasy feast evening podcast, let's eat. Maybe it is the fantasy fees to Eden Park cast the show that so nice. We do it twice. And if you are looking for a place to place your online bets, we are presented by online dot AG. All you Purdue is use that promo code podcast. One. He's having. So let's get right back into it with the late games on Sunday. The Monday night game. We, of course, always discuss even if it's just briefly every fantasy relevant dude in everything goal game, it's just what we do because we're that. Zero and you have to have context to this to testify that you are checking out each and every week. It's so much more than that and that is your edge. That is how you win. Also, we every once in a while we tell you about awesome things like how about this new show on the CW. So I don't get chance to watch that much TV when I do though. I like when it's a somehow football related and be inspired by a true story. I like that. And that's exactly what CW has their incredible new series called all American. It's inspired by a true story. It's about Spencer James crazy talented, high school football player from the inner city gets recruited to play in Beverly Hills and awesome breakout role up and comer. Daniel Ezra shows major chops playing l. a. born and raised, Spencer James. Especially considering Daniels Brit. So LA south-central born and raised. The guys are Brit playing and that's interesting, and it's got all the drama. You want supports, drama, family drama, the drama between the coach and the player don't miss the incredible new series. All American Wednesdays only on this w and the CW app. Meal. Alright, Evan, let's start the Lake Games and the game that our producer Brian will be at that. If. If going to be a really entertaining game the saints coming off their bye against the ravens defense. That isn't just the best defense in the NFL. They're the best in the NFL by a lot. Yeah. I think that entering last week I would have said that the bears were right there with them, but hey, bears has got smoked tourist and the ravens. Set a franchise record for sacks. So I think this is a great real life football game, and it's kinda dicey for fantasy. I think that you have to lower expectations for the saints offense a player's number one outside of the Superdome number two. As you mentioned, they're playing this incredible opponent. So it really lowers the expectations. The projection for drew Brees as like a fringe fantasy starter. We no one is getting production at the quarterback position against the ravens saints do have a really good offense of line and in that should allow them to. Keep the pocket relatively clean for drew Brees. But I mean him having a big game just seems highly unlikely here. Mark Ingram comes back last week and he plays a huge role. I mean, he played essentially over Alvin Kamara. But. I think that that is likely to change going forward. I don't think that that's a sign of things to come. I just think that was an opportunity in a game of the saints really controlled. That was an opportunity for the saints to let Mark Ingram, knock off the rust. And I think that our chimera good sauce right back in. Mid range. Rb one and Mark Ingram is going to be a more of a touchdown, dependent guy like a low end Rb to against this great great defense on the road, Michael Thomas, that they could get him in the slot against Tehran young or Brandon car. Von young got banged up our he has been banged up. So I'm not sure if he is going to be available. But raining car has been the slot corner since Jimmy Smith came back from suspension whenever take on young has been out of the lineup, Michael Thomas skin can get enough of a favourable matchup to be to remain in the wide receiver. One conversation trae Quant Smith has that monster game against Washington on Monday night yet that came with Ted Ginn out that came at the Superdome. It came on only. Five targets. So. It's, you know, it's awesome to see trick Smith, but. It's difficult to chase, especially with Ted Ginn back after the bye kmered Mareth same sort of deal good to see him out there playing well with the exception of his loss fumble. But you know, tough to chase that in fantasy. Ben Watson, of course, also the Knicks for targets, although his usage has been down, Josh has been up. So just a lot of dudes competing for looks behind the to RB's and Michael Thomas that. Makes it not easy on us as fantasy football players need that need them back in the Superdome. I think that Joe flacco is of very, very stream. -able play this week. The saints have been batted pass defense can't really get after the quarterback twenty-fourth NFL and sacks twenty-ninth quarterback hit rate. Very stressful. I think that I would prefer to play Joe flacco ver- Matthew Stafford this week we talk about Matthew Stafford on the first Todd, cast. Alex Collins nineteen touches last week's two touchdowns he barely out. Snapped buck our now forty five percent to thirty seven percent. Gus Edwards. If you look at the box score, he had a bunch of Kerry ten carries, but he was really so much of a came in garbage time. I think that I was Collins is a sort of touchdown dependent or be two and buck island is like a lower end flex option PR reeks. In the receiver core. Marshon Lattimore had a concussion in that week, five game against Washington. He should be back. I think that the saints would stick him on John Brown, but I'm not totally sure the ravens made it a point. John Harbaugh Harbaugh talked about this after the game, the ravens made it a point to feed Michael Crabtree early in last week's game. He had eight drops in the first five games and they made sure to target in heavily early getting involved. He had an awesome gate. And so I don't know if that means that Marshall Lattimore might be assigned to him, but I think that at the end of the day, like we can't really worry about that too much. And John Brown is strong wide receiver to play. Despite a couple of slow weeks in a row saints have given up the fifth most twenty plus yard completions per game. Michael Crabtree is like a fringe wide receiver. Three Willie Snead revenge game for him, but he is scoreless since week. One hasn't reached has not gone over sixty yards in single game. So far this year, just a PR specific wide receiver. Four. He is catching a lot of balls Hayden Hurst. Has just been a rotational tight end. I mean, they've got four tight ends at the us eight Hearst, Mark Andrews max Williams, Nick boil. So not really a fantasy situation that you want to invest in in. We can move onto the next one. Cowboys and Redskins love this rivalry. I was on both sides of it and what the heck happened to the Cowboys against the Jags ofensive -ly Gallup made a nice play even though he's out of bounds. Dak Prescott running z Beasley. What do you got. I think that there. A combination of factors, but definitely the Cowboys using Dak Prescott proactively. As a runner, I think was. Was was played a big part. And of course the Jaguars inability to pass rush at all in the game. But I think that using Dak runner was very, very promising. He dockets been so bad fantasy arguably in real life for the last like sixteen games that I need to see it again here to to really believe it. I think it's good for Zeke Elliott. A may start to bring in some of the past catchers into play, but in terms of doc into independently, especially against a Redskins defense, that is pretty good against the pass, really has not given a very much fantasy production, but I'm going to need a nother game back Prescott to to trust him as a fantasy. Starter Beasley had the monster game. Teams have really struggled at slot receiver against Washington. Where KENDALL fuller, the, the guy that the guy now Smith trade, he has been really, really good at slot slot corner. So again, not really trying to chase the Colby's Lee Dak Prescott connection. I think that it's real, but it's just it's not going to be like what happened last week. Tau Redskins have given up four point four yards per carry. A two opposing running backs that bodes well for Zeke Elliott. Skains have also given up six point running back receptions per game. I think Zeke Elliot is the high confidence play in week six on week, seven on wash on dialysis side on Washington side. They did bounce back as we talked about last week kind of expected that for the victory, but it was not because I had like a big game. And you know he has not been top twelve fantasy quarterback. All five starts and. Other couples have been really good in pass defense. Only one of six quarterbacks to face them has been top twelve score on the week. They have a really strong pass rush in. They have solid secondary Klay. Adrian Peterson is just just a beast. Seventeen carries for ninety seven yards last week. Really his passing game involvement is not there. So that really lowers his four in his matchup is not very strong. Cowboys have been great in run defense holding opposing our bees to three point three yards per carry with three rushing TD's in six games. Sean Lee, I think is coming back this week. He practiced a little bit last week that bodes well. I think for him returning the the next week, I don't know about Chris Thompson, but Capri bibs got like no work. Last week. So it's Adrian Peterson or bust in the Redskins backfield barring Chris Thompson's return Jordan Reed, you know, the the, the targets were therefore last week, but of course, Vernon Davis winds up having his best game of the season. Stick which ordinary though. I mean. He's he's really good and he's still working out the kinks. I think with his quarterback all the perimeter receivers just don't want any part of them too in Washington, Jamison, Crowder. Did he play last week? We can move onto the next one. Okay. Let's get to. It's the Rams against the Niners tell you kinda fun to watch the Niners man. They're not, but there are a lot more entertaining than I thought they'd be without Jimmy g. I agree. I mean, CJ Beathard has got better. You know, that's natural progression that we probably should have expected. We haven't seen him make a ton of plays with his feet, but he can. He has eight career starts now under his belt. CJ Beathard averaging over twenty rushing yards per game is four. Rushing TD's in those eight starts, he is a legitimate streamer against the Rams. Rams of allow twenty seven point three points per game over the last three. CJ Beathard and also the Rams have given up a ten to one touchdown interception ratio and CJ Beathard has been like a high floor high upside fantasy play in this ball out, quick offense. The forty Niners have really done a great job of, you know, of course, under my on Kyle Shanahan of a scheming offense to maximize their strengths and minimize their weaknesses, and they got Marquise Goodwin rolling last week love to see that love it with marquee speed. When is healthy. Ninety three percent of the snaps last week Rams have been just terrible at outside quarterback. So Marcus Goodwin, I think the the CJ Beathard murky Goodwin stack very much in play, even though we just saw go off. I think it could very, very well go off again. Breda like toughest little dude in the league. Just nothing can stop. Fourteen touches last week. D comes in with like every like every body part injured. He leaves the backfield and snaps forty, seven percent in touch, fourteen regime mostaert plays and he gets twelve touches Alfred Morris, just phased out, you know, this is not something that I saw coming up more. Twenty-one touches the week before that, but they went with the little speedy dudes against Green Bay. And you know, at work, they almost pulled off the win. The Rams defense is four point seven yards per carry. Two opposing wearing backs. Fourth, most receptions allowed to opposing our Bs at Brita. I mean every week RV to with this point, I think you'd be grab Brahim most stared deeper leaks, but it could very well just as easily be offered Morris, replacing him as the number two in the back. Field. Especially surprised about monster because he had lost a fumble the week before in receiver core mention Goodwin, you know, peer Garzon just he's seventeen straight games without a touchdown. He's been getting a lot of targets, but. Just not producing Rams have given the eighth most yards to tight ends that boats positively for George Kittle. He played ninety three percent of the snaps in week six every week, tight ones, only soccer to Travis. Kelsey have more receiving yards on the season than George Kittle on the other side, you know, I think that this is a game where Jared Goff goes off because we haven't seen him. He's played well, I think, but we have not seen him produce in the box score in these things usually come around and catch up to the box score and or. In real life. The forty Niners can't rush the passer, twenty fifth and Saxton. I quarterback hit raked. They've given up a combined fourteen to one touchdown to interception ratio to opposing quarterbacks. Todd Gurley. I mean, I don't know what else to say. He's the best most valuable player in all fantasy football is gonna crush. No Cooper Cup this week. MC l. sprain rubber woods took over at slot receiver last week, and you look at the slot receivers that have faced the forty Niners. Golden Tate Marquez vowed scant Ling at of feelin all over one hundred yards so that I think that Robert woods like a lock but fantasy play this week. Richard Sherman has shocking. We've been great this year coming off a torn achilles. I would bet against him. Did against them, but. Unsuccessfully on my part but branding. But he only plays left cornerback in Brandin cooks, runs eighty percent of his routes away from less quarterbacks. So that puts Brenna cooks, very good position. I think the Josh Reynolds who's going to be a popular DFS play this week. It stuck on Richard Sherman for much of the game. Doesn't mean the Josh Reynolds is a bad DFS play because he's cheap in if he scored a touchdown gains forty five yards. He's going to more than pay off his salary, but he's going to end up with the worst matchup and we can move onto the next one. Sunday night football. It's the Bengals who've been pretty darn good offensively against the chiefs who even when they struggled in the first half, Evan, we thought, okay, they found a way in the second. FA are electric. Yes, they are in this game. Looks like it could be electric because it's got a fifty eight and a half point total by far biggest on the slate. Patrick Mahomes been top twelve inch quarterback in five of six games with three top five finishes over eight yards per temped for the six time in seven career starts in last week's loss to New England. Bengals haven't been. As good as I thought they would be entering the season defensively, five of six quarterbacks to face them have been a top fifteen scorers on the week. You know the deal with Patrick Mahomes you know the deal with tyreek hill. Now sky, he somehow saves all of his big games for road games. He is scored. Twenty of his twenty seven career touchdowns on the road seventy four percent. I still think is just just pure variants in. It's not like predictive. I like to mention it at every week, but you know, it's not enough of a reason to like get concerned about tyreek hill in a high-scoring projected game like this in the Bengals are super super banged up in the secondary lost Sean Williams to injury. Last week, Sean leaves left with a concussion dark has Denard their slot owner. He left with a shoulder injury, William Jackson or best cornerback dealing with a knee injury. I think all that puts Sammy Watkins also squarely into the mix wide receiver. Three play heat, whereas tyreek has relatively struggled in home games. Sammy Watkins has two best games so far at. Arrowhead are. I think that drugs Kelsey can bounce back in a really big way that the Bengals have given up the seventh most yards. Two opposing tight ends last week. The Steelers tight ends at fourteen catches against the Bengals Travis. Kelsey leads all all NFL tight ends in area hards like he's he. I think he is going to have a really, really big game here in the in the running game for Kansas City. Ventas Bertha coming back is not really helped of the Bengals run defense saw James. Connor go off against them last week, even four point, eight yards per carry tent most receiving yards. The NFL two opposing running backs. They're missing rank last guy who they toys ACO, they're going to be without Nick vigil. Sprained his MC l. so cream on a little bit more involved in the passing game over the last three. Three weeks that is good to see on the other side. Indy dull should be loaded into a fantasy lineups chiefs are bad on defense on pace to allow the most yards in league history of loud the six most points per game. This year. Joe mix did not have as usual workload. Last week. Gut took some big hits only fifteen touches against the Steelers, but he did score touchdown for the third time in four games and he matched his career high with seven targets. Chiefs are bad against the run. We saw Bella check in the patriots exploit that with Sony Michelle over and over and over again last week cheese, allowing five point four yards per carry two opposing our be six, rushing touchdowns in six games. Joe mixing still averaging twenty one touches per game. The Chiesa also most receiving. NFL to running back CJ zome. Rain forty one routes, fourth, most among all NFL tight ends last week, seven targets top eight among tight ends last week. Also, number four at his position in area. Ours last week, Kansas City has been getting shredded by tight ends. They're super banged up by safety. You know, they don't have Eric berry air airi'q are identical. Sorensen was placed on injured reserve earlier this year, Eric Murray could play last week. I think CJ who's Oma is a top twelve fantasy play at the tight end position AJ green in two games without Tyler effort as a double digit targets in both and. Should have had a better game last week, but he dropped to passes. He still has gone. He's cleared eighty five yards touchdown, five of six games this year Chiesa the most twenty yard completions in the NFL write-down AJ greens are wheelhouse Tyler Boyd at slot. Receiver. He's been excellent. He's been a little bit up now, but he has shown big game potential and scored two touchdowns last week would have had a bigger game, but he had a thirty nine yard catch called back to holding penalty on left tackle cordy. Glenn. Tyler boy, every week fantasy starter. John Ross might come back this week. Don't wanna use fantasy. We can move on the last one Bill. Last one. It is Monday night football, four teams on buys this week. By the way, it's the giants in disarray against the falcons who are pretty darn consistent. -fensive Lii and devante Freeman was placed on I r. Yeah. And it's like a split backfield still having Coleman and Edo Smith that puts that makes both those guys are Baotou slash flex place. Headed fully broken down yet myself because I was waiting on some of this injury news. But you know, I think that it's real clear who we can use on the inside Hooper earned that every week, star treatment, Matt, Ryan. Shirley Julio even know, can't swear touchdown on pace for like nineteen hundred receiving yards. Ridley new, both got banged up last week. So on a keep out at an eye on them, saquon just crushing and this is one of the best possible matchups for running back catches passes. So, and then you know, OB j. in sterling Shepard in evidence all going to be relying on the giants ability to. Just get completions and their quarterback play his poor and their offense of lines should experience a a little bit softer matchup here because the Thakin's have been missing players on defense and they don't really rush the passer well, so hopefully the giants can get some stuff figured out. But I do think that evidence room coming back heating immediately reinserted as fantasy starter gotta keep the faith OB j. sterling Shepard, Evan, that was fantastic. You are fantastic, v Madden word very simple. Think the mad and word is just think t h I n k for the phrase that pays think t h I n k, there you go. And I'm guessing some of you are going to kind of know what it is by now and should be getting emails, ROY. Ross at Ross, Tucker dot com. Ross, I know the phrase that pays boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, Email me. 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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 526: Raiders Home For 2019 (2-26-2019)

GSMC Football Podcast

46:31 min | 1 year ago

GSMC Football Podcast Episode 526: Raiders Home For 2019 (2-26-2019)

"Keep yourself in the loop of everything football on the Golden State media concepts football podcast, your latest news on and off the field. Be it college football big ten SEC big twelve Pac twelve ACC to the NFL with got you covered. Listen to the Golden State media. Cut sets football podcast. Hello, everybody. Welcome GMC football has brought GMC podcast network. I'm your host Jeff Mellon off. Yes. Good things on the world football today. We get more information that Robert Kraft and his prostitution charges or sounds like prostitution his association with the prostitution charges that happened, and he could be facing some jail time. We'll talk about the little bit Colin Kaepernick in the news again and him talking not with the af. But the other league that's happening next year was hunger that as well Oakland has a new home not a new home, but a home nonetheless for the twenty nineteen season. We'll also get in. It's gushing about that. And anything else that to be dogged about we will talk about. But first things first because the title this show is Oakland and where they will play the raiders they are going to play in Oakland. They're going to lay in the Coliseum. They're making they're finalizing the deal with the Coliseum and making sure that the twenty nine hundred season is in. Oakland to finish up before they go to Las Vegas in the year twenty twenty so that's next year. So with that the question is based off of how are the fans get react to this? I think that is an porn quest. Maybe not an important question. But an acquire a question to me that should be asked about because of the fact this will be the last time we see them play in Oakland. So what does this mean for the fan base? Are they remained loyal to the raiders? Like some obviously will. But will they receive some hostile reactions when they played home games? I'm not gonna say, they definitely will are definitely won't. But I think that's definitely a possibility. When you think about it because of the fact that they're leaving their team they're leaving their city that they've been there for decades now, and they're not just leading. They're like, they're also even the state in. That's never having for either. They usually moved Oakley is usually just Oakland or it's LA. So now going to a whole nother story and getting the ability to be in a billion dollar multi billion dollars stadium in Vegas. Seems to be a good fit in theory. But you also have to look at the fact that this city in general does not really have familiarity with a franchise a professional franchise. And when you look at a professional franchise there. There's only one in that's the Vegas tonight. The only been there for about a year. Granted they went to the Stanley Cup final. But again only year, so. Thinking about that is you're going to a brand new city. That's never had a professional football team before. So you're looking into a whole new they are going to be completely different from how other cities that have had teams would. Yeah. It's it's not like going LA where they've had a football team for new you can make a market out of it. You're going to a whole new area. This is a whole new. What's the word? I'm looking for a whole new venture point. This is a whole new area. Like, we're not they're not used to this kind of thing. So definitely a scenario where this could go very bad for them. I'm not gonna take that out of the equation. Mainly because it's the raiders. I mean, they kind of went already on lucky this year. I mean, look at Jon Gruden trading too key players on the raiders that you're supposed to people like you should build a team around that not get rid of them. But you got first round picks out of it. So is one of those. Whereas they oh, you got what you want? You got first multiple first round picks for Cleal MAC, and you got a first-round pick from REI Cooper where people thought they wouldn't be able to get him Aren Cooper affirmed trumping from our Cooper's that was unusual. But they were thinking since they traded with the bears and they traded with the Cowboys. It was one of those factors in where. Oh, they're gonna get a pick. In the top fifteen is a probably won't be going to the playoffs. And boy were we wrong because I was wrongly. I didn't think they would make the playoffs. I thought the bears with Mitchell German scale long ways to go. I didn't think that the time. The trade deadline happened in the Murray Cooper trade went down. I didn't expect the Cowboys to really make it to the playoffs. I thought OB going to someone else in that division. But I we were wrong. And honestly, kind of the biggest faces Jon Gruden because not only does he not get these. Hydra picks for these top players. It's not high draft picks in the slightest. It's the number twenty four in number twenty seven pick respectively. So they have the number four pick the number twenty four th pick and the number twenty seven pick fourth pick of courses. Great. That's that's great. But that was their own pick. So getting to extra first round pitches. Good. But when they're in the twenty when they're number twenty four number twenty seven it's not like you're gonna get the biggest shush flows famous names in the draft. You know, it's one of those things you look at it. And it's honestly pretty disappointing that they got those low of draft picks. And now, you gotta look at the facts that maybe trading way, Khalil Mack and trading away. Amari Cooper, were not the best ideas. Of course, everyone's saying that now, but at the time, it's like the guy first round picks, it'll be fine. But what can they? Really get. I mean, it's still first round pick. I'm not taking that away from them. But with the cost of giving up those players the the best players in the in on their team in clue MAC was the best player on their team. So I'll say that the first time. Getting only twenty four th pick for Khalil Mack and getting twenty seven pick for Amari Cooper is not worth the trade in my opinion. So it's very disappointing to see overall the facts that they just can't get it done. They just they can try to do their best to make this work. But I don't think they're gonna get their their what's they're not gonna get their big picks. They were looking for in exchange those two key players. So they're kinda in trouble overall. But they really need a nail these number twenty four number twenty seven pick to make sure that they get a. Basically a fair exchange in in the trade for Cooper and MAC. So my guess this is my guess to make this success to make this trait. Look good for the raiders. They need to draft the two guys with the the two first round draft picks from the bears and the Cowboys the raiders needed draft. At least one of them to be a pro bowler or on the. Or possibly in the Simpson rookie the or someone successful their rookie or they need. Like, I'm all I'm one of the main guys that will say you are not going to the draft to win. Now. That's not what you're going to. That's not why you're going. You're picking your picking for your future, you're picking for the next year. Or so next couple years. You gotta have these develop. You gotta have the marinate in the NFL mainly like the quarter positions the main one with that. But it's also just in general, you just gotta give these guys time and giving them. None of time is just too much pressure in general. So you can't do that. But I'm gonna make an exception to my rule to the rule with Jon Gruden because if he wants to make an impact going into he needs the nail on these picks for shore and. Just junctions in a very tough space is always going to his second year in the. In his in his ten first second tenure with the raiders. So a lot is riding on the second year to be honest with you going into Vegas, but honestly, he's going to Vegas to sell tickets. That's basically what he's been to do. He's he's a selling point for the fans because he has a history of success won Super Bowl his first year with Tampa Bay, of course, being treated by the raiders ironically to the temporary buccaneers for. I believe the first draft pick for coach, which is unheard of nowadays. But you know, going into this going into that season guests who the ten buccaneers beat in the Super Bowl. Yeah. That was the Oakland Raiders. So very ironic how things work out for you know, in general. But when you're thinking about it. If they want to sell tickets, they need keep drunk Gruden obviously. But I think when it comes down to it Jon Gruden may not be the best option. And I mean like in general like of all the coaches available. You pick the guy that was. Gone from the leave for about a decade. Not not coaching at least. And now, he's basically running everything. So I think there's a lot riding on the success Jon Gruden for the raiders organization as well not just for Gruden himself. So I don't know. I just think maybe just maybe. They made a huge mistake. I mean, it's hard to say it was a mistake or not right now because he's only been one season. But. For his moves so far. They've not been the best moves at all. So that's all I got to say about that. But I mean, it's all based off of some shin in. We'll see it's only been a year. Like, I said, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he'll turn around. Maybe maybe he'll even Super Bowl, you know. But I'm not obviously going to say, yes or no. So. I'm gonna take we're gonna take we're we are going to take a break right now. When we come back. We'll be talking about Robert Kraft and his certain situation with the law will be right back right after this. Are you looking for help for your fantasy football team? Check out the GMC fantasy football podcast get to knees. Best advice to start who to sit even who you should draft from sleeper. Pasto red hot lineups. They got it all covered for you. That's GSM. See podcasts dot com slash fantasy. Dash football dash odd cast we'll cover traditional leagues dynasty PR even ID when you need fantasy. Hope there's just one show to hit up. Don't forget to like them on Facebook and follow them on Twitter. Visit GMC podcasts dot com for more info. Welcome back. The GMC football podcast just talked about the raiders in knowing there could be still in Oakland for the twenty nineteen season. And what does this mean for the rest of the fan base, and such but moving on we have about Robert Kraft still. And with Robert Kraft. Obviously you known by now about is the prostitution sting. He was involved with and kind of troubles facing. But it might be more serious than many think because you know, in my lead to more jail time. Some people thought it was gonna when lead jail time. But this is a very big possibility that might lead to jail time. So here's the information that I know from at least this is from teams, he sports and such other links. The Palm Beach county state attorney, Dave Aaron Berg Aron Berg, I could be wrong on that said cra- faces one year in prison if convicted on the first degree misdemeanor charge of soliciting another to commit prostitution. So what I'm getting by? That is it's either like he was getting us into prostitute other people like like he was using his own prostitution for himself her for me, others kind of when it sounds like maybe that's just for the general purpose of it. Or just the fact that he just bought a prostitute which shouldn't just soliciting prostitutes. Not soliciting another to commit prostitution because it sounds like a he's paying someone to be a prostitute for somebody else, doesn't it that just how I that's how I take it. But of course, it's probably the fact he was the one that she he was gonna cut. She was she was going to commit prostitution with. That's basically what I got from that information. And with that like one year in prison. That's not get a really look could afro right after his six Super Bowl win after like buying the team and such like. And this is just a bad look for the team in general, not just crap. But for the patriots they're already have a bad bad rap as of right now. Because of the fact that they have the spy gate, they have to flake gate. They have the Aaron Hernandez issues in the past. They just never have had a good running when it comes down to. Controversies if you will. So with that I want to add that if he does face up to one year in prison. I don't know what the NFL will do in response to that. Because will he remained the the NFL's already claimed they will not be in? They will not get involved or not interfere in any way, shape or form with the investigation of rubber craft. So either living there leaving him out high dry, or they're just not going to make sure they're not gonna make sure the please make the right type of instigation lead any controversy to it. So with that also being said. If he does face when you're prison if he does get jail time, which is unlikely, but it's still a possibility. I will definitely have to say that he might lose. I see. I don't wanna say he will share lose ownership because I'm not entirely positive. He would based off just jail time because it's a in. It's still a serious offence to one year in jail too. So it's not like it's something it's not like a small prison time, it's a whole year. So with that I have to like what's this mean for the future of the ownership of the? New England Patriots. I'm not sure if this. Puts to affect as what? What this would cause for concern? It's just an interesting thing to look at because there's plenty of there's plenty of what if scenarios here, what would happen as you get jail time. If he even doesn't like his other if if he is convicted or whether it's not jailtime, it's a hundred hours of community service and being enrolled. Are required here better to be required to attend par prostitution and human trafficking. Awareness course. And I'm not sure I get what that I get what they're trying to do is like just make them. Learn more about prostitution, y it's like why it's bad. I sharing know that. But. Regardless. I think is one of those things where. It's just more of a. Just saying bad just bad thing. This is why it was bad. But in reality, I think it's hopefully going to help if he does get into that class. Maybe it is best case scenario that he does get the hunter hours of community service. And the course about prostitution and. So what was it solicit? Wh what was the actually I read I gotta go back and read the name was it was prostitution human trafficking. So with all of this going down in all those shoes sting happened in a bunch of names got leaked, and he was one of them. This everything is this what he's like is he going to be remembered mainly by this or is he going to be remembered by his Super Bowl success his team's rules exist. Because. This definitely put damper on his legacy absolute has to write because it's such a big deal. It's a huge deal. And with all of that being said. I don't really know. What were you come back? I don't know how you come back from this imperial. And when I mean, come back from this. I mean like to be looked at like as a hall of Famer if you will in the pro football hall of fame is success as an owner, but I think with this whole trafficking issue, sex trafficking and the prostitution in the all that stuff. I think this definitely hurts. I think seventy hurts his career and does he come back from this? I do not know does he resigned as he sell the team out of embarrassment. I mean, we've seen civic that happened before. But I don't know. This is just a touchy subject. We don't know all the information the court the apparently the trials can happen in April. So there is time to really see how this is all going to go down at the end of the day. But again, this is a huge concern, regardless. For the patriots organization, but just because it's the patriots, and they've done this kind of thing will not done this thing of thing before but have come back from deficits in the past. I guess you can say. They will probably win the Super Bowl. Just just just despite everything that's happened those to overcome everything because that's usually what they've been doing last couple of years. Especially rob Parker who sing painting or pain amaze me for Braise too old. This Tom Brady told that and he's good a never go back to a Super Bowl. And that was when he turned thirty five and look fast forwards six years, and he's been three straight. So obviously, rob Barker's dead wrong about Tom Brady, and so on and so forth. But I don't know if this would be a concern for the anyone trying to join them in offseason, I'm assuming not, but it's just probably the one it's just bad timing. Just right after the Super Bowl when because the patriots of talking town second team ever Mu-lin six Super Bowls behind the before. And for them was the Pittsburgh Steelers after their winning Super Bowl, forty three. So. The question remains like is this using to be remembered for the patriots winning the Super Bowl in arguably the worst Super Bowl ever? Or is it gonna be remembered for the prostitution ring? Like, it's it's an interesting thing to think about because we really don't know when we look at this three or four years from now, we'll see how everything transpires, but regardless it's a big question question. These be answered. So that's how that's my take on it at least for the patriots. But honestly, looking into actually, you know, there's actually something another thing about the patriots. I saw an Instagram that Josh Gordon put on his Instagram bio that he was a Super Bowl fifty three champion. And people were kind of having a field day with that. Because it's like he left because he relapsed, unfortunately. And so the question is like does he deserve to be considered a champion? He was on their team for next minute time. And he he didn't do very much do relapse any didn't play in the playoffs at all. So the question is does he deserve to be called a champion. He's gotta get a ring. I think regardless of the fact he was on the roster at the time they won the Super Bowl. So I think he's getting one a ring regardless. But does that mean he he they're gonna heat deserves one going into this next up? Going into next season. Does he deserve to get ring? Those go go to the ring presentation to one and so forth. Because it's it's still a touchy subject because like you said he relapsed. He's he kind of has an addiction, and it's hard to say like who what's going where? So I don't know. I just thought that'd be an interesting take to think about because of the facts that you know, he's not he wasn't really when they needed a Super Bowl run when they needed him to go to help win the Super Bowl, you know. So. Regardless that's had tall. That's how that is going down to me. But we're going to short break when we come back. We'll be talking about other things that happen. The NFL cleanups. A play team that signed kunai player. Cut by the Baltimore Ravens in future. Lies for him. We'll be right on that. When we return. 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And keys really only have a couple like let's look at his stats throughout his career. So in his career, he's never had over one hundred receptions in one season. He's had two seasons with thousands or more receiving yards. And he's had no season with ten touchdowns or more the most he's ever gone was nine and that was two seasons. One with the raiders in one with the forty Niners. So the question is is that a bust? His total career is one hundred forty one games with six hundred and thirty three receptions for seven thousand four hundred seventy seven yards. That's an eleven point eight average. Fifty three yards per game. And fifty four total touchdowns. The last year helium three touchdowns on six hundred seventy yards on fifty four receptions, that's kind of average and thing averages being also generous in that standpoint. So honestly looking at those stats and looking just got cut. I truly believe he's a bust. And it's unfortunate to see a player that came off college with all that hype. After the big Texas Tech played will be Texas in that big huge rivalry game that really cemented his career, honestly. So with that and not having one one hundred yards season. Or anything of that nature? And only two thousand yard seasons. Yeah. You can consider bust. I think definitely tend to him a bust. It's disappointing for sure, but I think you can definitely consider him bust. But. Maybe it's the late to even talk about bus. But for Michael crapshoot since he was drafted in two thousand nine, but you know, he was always supposed to make this big jump. You know, what I mean to a big time receiver in his best time was like roughly with Cohen caverns reign of terror when he was on the when he was. When he was going bring the Niners to the Super Bowl. So it's been a very interesting situation for Michael Crabtree. But very disappointing to find out about the cut after just one season. And I think you might be done. I don't know who else picks him up. But I think it's on the end back end it was current now. I mean, ten years Lee what Lou who's gonna pay him the money to be number one? Why does he ever there's nobody? In other news in the world of football. The XFL have a couple new head coaches in GM's the same person. So for the XFL teen that's going to be taking place in Seattle their head coach and general manager is Jim Zoran and for those in Seattle, you know, exactly gyms Oranje and he was your quarterback in the eighties late seventies early in in to the eighties. He was basically you're Russell Wilson for Russell Wilson. Was Russell Wilson. That's sounds accurate. And looking into his coaching career. However that is a whole different story. He had a successful. You had a pretty good career overall all things considered as a quarterback. But as a. Head coach, I guess had a coach in general. It's a little bit different all start with this. He was not he's as his coaching career began. He was always he was not a head coach. He started in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight as a coach when he retired in nineteen eighty-seven from football. He played for the Seahawks. I said is the quarterback from nineteen seventy six to nineteen Eighty-four. So it was kind of the face of the franchise for the beginning times. And. I'm not sure if that was their inaugural season, but it was one of their first seasons. Definitely. No, actually, they he was their very first quarterback the Seahawks nineteen seventy six he was very first quarterback starting quarterback. So he's legendary in Seattle. Kind of running back. He was kind of running to seventeen rushing touchdowns in his career. So he had a pretty good. He have Russell Wilson kind of asked career. But moving on into his coaching career as soon as he retired in nineteen eighty seven he played he coached. He was the offense assistant such quarterbacks. Coach for Boise state, then became the offense cleaner. Utah state already good start. Then he became the quarterbacks coach for Minnesota. And then it was actually offensive assistant for this the Seahawks in nineteen Ninety-seven. And how did they see us young student nineteen seven well, I'll gladly tell you because they did yolk at best because they win a pedestrian eight that year and as for the corner as an offense assistant they had a couple of pro bowlers ironically, their quarterback was worn women on -ironically, but their contract was more Warren Moon who started around the same time as Zoran did gyms Oren started in nineteen seventy six but from nine hundred seventy eight to nineteen eighty three. Before he went to the Houston. Oilers. Warren Moon was in the CF L at the Edmonton eskimos. And he was actually one most successful in the history of this fell because nineteen seventy eight nine hundred seventy nine nine hundred eighty eighty one eighty two so five years in a row he won their championship game. He won their Grey Cup, which is their Super Bowl, which is incredible think about so that's just Tom nation in his Canadian football career. But he did have a pretty good NFL career was where to the hall of fame and all that. But regardless. The Seahawks that you're when eight when he was their offense of assistant, then he goes to Detroit Lions as their quarterbacks coach and who is their quarterback in that time. They wouldn't five and eleven their quarterback Scott Mitchell. Those don't remember who Scott Mitchell is probably get thing. Because he was a backup for Miami for a period of time. And kinda went back then after staying with Miami. He went into the NFL Europe league where they had an NFL had American team in there called the Landau thunder. Then he went to Detroit for a pretty hefty contract. Actually, if I remember correctly, he got a pretty sweet deal out of it. And I believe it was eleven million dollars total. I could be maybe it was loving your eleven million a year something something like that. I'm not gonna completely guess what it was. But I remember there's something roughly around a million dollars. Jeez. I didn't realize in twenty fourteen Scott Mitchell who was the quarterback. He was six five. He was six six actually to forty nine. So there's a pretty built dude he was pretty big guy, but not like, overweight or anything well in two thousand fourteen he reached three hundred and sixty six pounds. And he was on the biggest loser. Ouch. That. That maybe we didn't need to know. But that's kind of sad. That is really sad. I didn't know he gained so much weight. But I hope the best for him. But going back to Jim Zoran in his career after that. He goes back to the Seahawks as their quarterbacks coach. So he's been quarterback coach for multiple teams, basically and from two thousand one when he first started their first season when he was there. They went nine seven they were only at the time not the NFC before they moved to the NFC. I'm not sure why exactly. But that's what happened. He was actually according quarterback for six years. And then Washington Redskins came calling and he gets his first head coaching gig for the watching Redskins in two thousand eight. And you're probably wondering how he did in that first ten years ahead coach in the NFL. I will gladly tell you mediocre last place in the NFC east aid for the Washington Redskins. As for the next season. He coached would be his final coaching season. And you probably know where this is going. He was last in the division. Again, this time four and twelve so his career is two seasons as a head coach were eight and four and twelve so nothing spectacular there. Then he was quarterbacks coach for Baltimore and Kansas City till two thousand twelve now he's not only the head coach of the XFL team in Seattle that has not yet to be named. But he's also the general manager. So from what I take from what I've gone gathered from these information the XFL. The the player the coach and the G R been the same person for the last couple of teams. Last night checked for the Washington DC team pep Hamilton offense coordinator for the Washington or Michigan wolverines with John Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh at the time. He was assistant head coach in passing game coordinator. That's what he was was fischel title. Now, he is the head coach and general manager of the XFL team in Washington. And I believe there's one more coach that has been announced I could be completely wrong on this. I mean that might have been the first one actually. But again, so the main to pep Hamilton and Jim Zoran. So that is definitely something think about when you're looking at the quality year, you're gonna get for the XFL. I'm we're going to give it the benefit of the doubt. I feel that there's still opportunities for the XFL to succeed, and I hope for the best for them. I really do. But we are going to take another short break when we come back finish up the day with some more talk about more football be right back credit for this. Check out this show build around the women of 'em from the UFC to the extreme cage fighting we got the fights cover the Golden State media concepts women's MMA podcast. The latest news of coming Fleiss discussions of previous matches join us as we talked to about the biggest names in women's mixed. Martial arts past present and future. When it's the women's fight game. You know, we're to listen to the Golden State media concepts women's MMA podcast. We'll come back and see full of podcast finishing up the day here. Well, the af has been around from what three weeks now roughly something like that. And they're already getting sued. They're have a lawsuit filed against them. So that if I did my math, right? Let's my watch here. That is the quickest time I've ever seen a football league. Get sued. Or, you know. I guess maybe the NFL gets three weeks into their existence. But who knows but that's just absurd. It's been three weeks. So he sued this man Suzy a f- for alleging he alleged that he came up with the league insist co-founder wanted. The XFL name which I'm a little confused with. I really means here. I'll read more into it. So Cording to Michael Rothstein rubber venit who is the photo of tribal music. Follow the suit Friday in L A superior court alleging he came up with the of the league he alleged the af co-founder Charlie Ebersol had a handshake agreement with him. That was violated as a result. He is seeking fifty percent ownership in the league financial damages and public acknowledgement of his cO found funding co co founding rule role in his lawsuit also states ever Sol attempted but failed to garner licensing from the WWE NBC that would've allowed to use the XFL name that makes sense why that was up there. So I guess what the F was trying to do was become the XFL it make it a developmental league. In by the name off of. The the w in Vincent, man. I I guess they were in the middle of all ready making their own they're making revamp to the XFL themselves. So they wouldn't go for it. So I guess that makes sense in the long run. But. The question is do you believe this? Do you believe this man, actually, this the CFO of this treble music? Came up with was also one of the main guys came up with the idea of the af and he had a called handshake agreement. But I think the main thing is what he wants in return is. I don't not sure how much financial damages is. But fifty percent ownership of the league in the league. Might be a little a big glass of water to order if you know what I mean? But I know what the limit to the financial damages are. I'm not sure what that money would ensue or how much it be worth wise. But also. Though idea of him saying a public knowledge of his co founding role is like one of those kids in your Simon like your project saying I came up with this. I did it me me me me like and you're like, okay. Okay. You did it you helped? But I want you to tell everybody, you know, it's one of those things where it's kinda petty. Honestly from hearing about this. And I could be maybe over over our acting this. But I just see this more the long lines of just I think someone's overreacting to this. Maybe. Or maybe maybe not over maybe not overreacting. But just being little jealous. Maybe saying I came up with this. It just sounds like what inputs a handshake agreement though. It sounds more long lines of he knew he thought maybe this wasn't gonna be as big or as successful possibly or. He just all like, I get some compensation for the idea. But he didn't get the title of co founder, maybe that he wanted or wanted some recognition and he didn't get it. So use like, okay, I'm just going to sue you. So maybe that's a little over the top. I'm not sure maybe that's overreacting. We obviously don't know all the details. But regardless I think it's one of those factors in where you're gonna look at it as just a guy asking for recognition. I'm not sure if there's more. To it. There might there's probably plenty more to it. But we don't know this is just recently lost files. So we really don't know what's really going to go down. So I'm not entirely sure. What's going to go come up with this? And when I mean by that is what the outcome will be. Will he get fifty percent ownership? Will he get this quote, unquote? Financial damages and the public acknowledgement that he this was his half of his idea. Because it sounds more along the lines of just like. It just sounds like so one upset they didn't get much credit in a school project or something like that, you know, like, someone bitter or jealous or something of that nature. But I'm not entirely sure. I can't I can't really pin pointed out what they're obviously are unanswered questions. But these will be answered in due time believe maybe this will just be settled out of court, which you're probably will be. But that is the time we have for today. Thank you so much. Joining me today on football twos in Tunis in on Thursday. We'll have more football news and such. But as always, I'm Jeff Allen. And I'll see you next time. You've been listening to the Golden State media concepts football podcast part of the Golden State media concepts podcast network. You could find this show and others like it at WWW dot Jesus. I'm see podcast dot com. 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FTP Ep. # 148: Le'Veon Bell's Heel Turn and the End of a Bromance

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FTP Ep. # 148: Le'Veon Bell's Heel Turn and the End of a Bromance

"Welcome to the fantasy Throwdown podcast bringing you the latest sports news fantasy analysis and opinions don't forget the hot takes can have Hort show without heartaches these days. What about hot case though, I want some odd case? Now, here's your host ready to jump into the thick of things Dwayne calendar. Good evening and welcome to the show got quite a bit to talk about. And you know, realistically, this was gonna focus more on the fancy aspect for wave wire pickups. But man, the news has gotten so juicy this evening that Gada talk about the world of sports because life just got a whole lot more interesting. So the Lamey on bell side guy in Pittsburgh has now come to a close lady. I'm Bill has completed his heel turn and is not going to report at all for the two thousand eighteen NFL season. Obviously, no one saw this one coming not even Levy on his people because no one did their homework apparently in within the CBA, and this was only discovered about a week ago actually less than a week ago. Because the NFL only came down with the decision on Wednesday the language in the collective bargaining agreement between the NFL owners and players states that players can be tagged two times under the franchise tag. And at the third time would automatically grant them quarterback status meeting. If you tag a player for third time, they automatically would be making an average of the top five quarterbacks in the league. And given the fact that it's a quarterback driven league that price tag runs north of twenty four to twenty five million dollars, given the guaranteed money being allocated a quarterback's these days, especially with that Matthew Stafford joke of a contract. So obviously steals aren't going to do that. But what everyone had assumed was that? Because I wasn't going to report that the franchise tended to Steelers offered him would not actually. Count against them. And that they could offer the franchise tag again and tagging begin the NFL said, no. But again, this is a failure on both sides because I'll be perfectly honest with you. If I'm the Steelers, I screw this one up royally. Because if I understood the CBA, and clearly they did not because they thought that they were going to be able to franchise tag him and Wade out labia lay beyond did not know what he was doing either Nina that his agent because they would've never even intimated that he might return because lady on kept sticking one foot in and one foot out one foot in and one foot out this entire process because we heard from ESPN that week seven he was planning to return to her into by week. I don't think he SPN made that Germany fellows, give reporter. I think people at the time understand the CBA looked at it that okay? The lockout could end here because the by weeks of might as well collect the game. Check for the bye week and report of right before the bye week just before game time. So you know, the Steelers have no choice but to activate but to activate you to put you on the roster, but they can't add to play you in the game. So you get a free game check week for week six for that plane. But you know, it didn't work out that way lady on. Kept stringing. This long reports say that Livio gained some weight while he was partying down to Miami that south beach life can do that to you. You know, I wouldn't be like spent time up being Ashley had to get myself in physical top condition. There's no way. So again lady on did not handle this correctly. The Steelers did not handle this correctly. However the Steelers are billion dollar organization. Thanks to the way. NFL teams are valuated. Now by financial groups, lady, I'm Bill as sounds back years is only going to be able to make so much money. The fact of the matter is lady on can't afford to be given up forty million dollars a year. Basic math alone tells you that you cannot make that money up. No matter how much guarantee money. Are your leather make? I mean. Yes, could he get hurt? Yes. They have insurance policies for that. Literally. They have insurance policies for your net worth in case of injury. Like, this was an ego thing from Latvia, and I get it. I completely get it. He's not getting paid fair market value based off of what he does in his field of work compared to wide receivers because he's taking much more of a pounding. And he's receiving the ball just as much as some of the top receivers in the game. That's why he's pissed. I get it. He's he's one man trying to upset the entire bounden. But the problem is he's just one man. The union wasn't helping him on this side. The union was just like, okay. Do your thing. But the union was not going to go toe to toe or toe to toe in a war with the owners over just lady on bell. They. To go over it over the the contents of the CBA, but the NFL basically kind of beat them to the budget said. Yeah, you're right. It's it's it's not a case where a team can just keep franchise tagging you. That's why not third year provisions there in the Steelers would be at that third provisions next year and that the year after of Leon didn't report. That's why the NFL set it up this way. But, you know, no, one prepared at all for this reality. And the reality situation is that lady on bell miss an entire NFL season. Over what amounts to that getting guaranteed money for a second year because the Steelers can say what they want about the contract they offer. It was a one year deal because the money wasn't guaranteed after the first year. I didn't want that. He wanted to actual have financial scary. Completely get it. He just went about it the tire wrong way. And so now Levey on bell it settled coming across more sympathetic. He'd come across as again, a pro wrestler making a he'll tred Ed you gotta get old JR saying. I mean, again, the talk radio is all piling on lady on for being selfish. And they have a point realistically if you look at it lady onto doesn't have much of a leg to stand on other than saying the Steelers were being cheap. But as it Advil organization, that's the right lady on if he and his agent were truly probably prepared and understood the CBA they can point to that CB language and argued with the Steelers that you're better off trading me and getting some value because I can afford to sit out the entire year and see the steals. Call his bluff the Steelers just figured, you know, lady on pitching up a fit, but you know, he'll be back into the season. Eventually, we'll survive a month. Steals had no idea that this was going to go on to this extent like lady on it is folks did not do a proper job of selling the fear factor to the Steelers. Because the way the Steelers kind of looked at it was you know, we got James CONNER here for seventy fifty thousand. He looks good enough. Let's write it. And once James CONNER started performing, they're like, okay. Yeah. There's a drop off. I mean, the folks trying to say that they're better off without without le'veon's playing James color. They're idiots because again, the NFL outlaw defense at twenty eighteen but again because of the rule changes. It helps guys like James Connor who are very talented not as talented as lady I'm Bill, but guess what they are talented and f- let and that's all you really need in today's NFL. It is devaluing the values certain players because guess what you can get replacement players because guys can't jam you at the line of scrimmage anymore. Like they used to their ways to get around it. And that's just the fact that a matter so for all the posturing Levy on bells going to do I'm not sure at this point by sitting out the entire year. If he just didn't tell everyone and their mother that he's in in the business for himself when a championship really just doesn't mean all that much to him in. You know, you could you could say what you want. But at the end of the day, it's just one of those situations where you just want to say. And you know, I just I mean, honestly, I it's just one of those where lady on is trying to pitch this as a freedom fight song. And that single person believes him because guess what maybe doing this for money. His money noted for the money of people to come after. I mean, he's trying to spend it that way. But like it's a poor spin jab at the very end. Because again, if he was more vocal about this up front saying how he felt what he felt from the outset. People would have sided with a little bit more. They would have said, you're an idiot. But like he still would have had supporters. This just came across as wishy washy in the NFL give him an out when he probably realized that he wasn't quite info football shape. So Libyan decided to take his ball, go home. And you know, he's got his money. He's got a million. So he can survive the euro found a paycheck. It's not a great plan because again anyone can tell you that compound investing and the time value money that given up fourteen million really amounts to if in future dollars. You're you're you're looking at if properly invested you could be upwards of nineteen twenty twenty three million depending on how he can grow his money over the next twenty thirty years, again, if you know NFL players like properly invested money like, you know. Other multimillionaires to now likely, but you know, it's always possible. So that's where we are. We got the Steelers now fishery having to move on from on bell. I think the Steelers had already prepared themselves for this. Given the fact that the number of times maybe on had stood them up on proposed states that he was going to return. So I think the Steelers are looking to move past the media bombarding them will questions on on the matter. Now the question that should be asked though is was it worth it for the Steelers to play hard ball and not give themselves the best chance of winning a title. Because if leaving I'm Bill and James kinda we're actually playing together as a tandem. It will be the most devastating combo in the league without question. It's Naven close between the way those two are operating nine close. We'll put the saints combo Kamara and Mark Ingram to shame. I would not even. In be close at all. So again the Steelers sacrificing potential success this year for a long term goal of anyone else. That complains about contracts will be getting we'll be given the exact same treatment Levy on. And that they will be shown the door. I don't necessarily grew it, but it's hard to fault the logic because lady on just gave up forty million dollars. The Steelers just what didn't have to pay it because he didn't sign the contract. Sometimes those things tend to work out for you. But moving on. So the keep it on the NFL agenda the upcoming Monday night football game between the Kansas City Chiefs and the St Louis Rams of jeez of saying St Louis made Los Angeles Rams. It will still take me a while to get used to saying Los Angeles will not be held in Mexico City due to basically an absolute piss port field at the stadium as ticket in Mexico City. You know, the. Is a soccer stadium and soccer stadiums are built an entirely different way than football stadiums. They have to be because soccer stadiums the field has to be rolled in order for the soccer ball to travel as smoothly as possible over feel. So that's why you'd see in soccer matches at their played on an NFL field. It's tros because the ball can barely move because the ball has to be a roller cert- way. The problem is if you format for soccer stadium, and you're trying to play football on it. Because of the field being rolled the actual field conditions at self tends to sink because it's it's a it's a it's a much tighter Grasso. Like your cleats just sink to the ground. So it you have to be much lighter in terms of cleats for soccer players than you would for NFL players when you have all those shoulder pads, and everything you just kinda sink to the ground. So it shoot. The field even worse than before. So there's no way they could play that game without someone getting some type of knee injury. Because of the fact that you can't properly plant your legs playing football on a soccer stadium. It it just doesn't work that way, you know, and you can change change away from being natural grass or whatever you want. But, you know, somebody stadiums if you're if you're using natural grass, it's you're going to run the same issue in. That's what happened in Mexico City. This feels chewed up from soccer matches. And there is no way they could get that field in proper enough condition to play an NFL game in and the union stepped in and the players stepped in said, no, we're not gonna play in these types of conditions. We're gonna get ourselves her. We got up we have to preserve our bodies. We're gonna respectfully pull ourselves out of the game. If you keep this game in Mexico City, which forced the NFL's. Hand into considering alternative options and alternative option was moving them back to L the game back to LA and let it be a true home game for the ramps. You know, it to me it's a win win because they got even more attention on the game now than before because people realize that it's not going to be Mexico City. Plus, you have the folks that were traveling to Bisco city being pissed off. So you got intrigued there. So some folks are going to get refunded. Some folks are still going to go to the game and had the tickets honored in LA. But it's a very interesting dynamic of seeing how a few days of. Article mentions on it. And this turned into a full-scale story on the field conditions in Mexico City. So. That's unfortunate for Mexico. Just because of how they're trying to grow to sport there. But you can't have a field in net shoddy of a condition because someone's gonna get hurt and you don't want to take that possibility. If there's any sort of way, you can prevent a such an injury from occurring in the first place all right in it. So in terms of NFL fantasy talk I'm not gonna talk about way, we're wires so much. They so much as players that are anchors on your team that you can feel free to drop or just bury on your bench. But honestly in so many leagues that we're you really short. I'm bench spots. You know, it's time to cut the cord on somebody's guy. So I'm going to run them down. And you'll know why it because you're proudly has on your author, and it's just time to cut bait so much further do unless you're league is. So shall for talent that you have to? To keep with with these guys, but more than that, they're gonna be options available. So first off we're gonna talk Doug Baldwin of Seahawks Baldwin said it from the outset that his knee was gonna be less than one hundred percent this year, and he was not lying. He basically told you where he was the the issue of Baldwin is that the knee is bothering him. He can't vade people at the line of scrimmage. It's hard for him to shake the fenders that they jam him. And he can't get in the end zone when it gets tight and compact he can't lose a guy because he doesn't have any links PD like that knee is jacked up. Now. I don't know there's gonna turn into Jordy Nelson situation where Jordan Nelson may very well retire there. There's a rumor going around at Jordy Nelson is about to announce his retirement at some point this week because he can't play anymore after that knee injury. I dunno duck ball was going to go. That severe of an extent, but it's a legitimate concern now because he is not recovering nearly as well for that knee surgery as the Seahawks thought he might and I'm sure Baldwin's disappointed as well. But he cannot put up the production. I mean, he's barely a wide receiver three I would put them as wide receiver four and that makes him drop bull in pretty much every format unless it's a fourteen or sixteen men league. So it's just that simple. The next guy up is Michael Crabtree. Now, the crab man has had a number of productive years. But the one bugaboo he's had throughout his entire NFL career is that he drops to many damn passes. Michael Crabtree will probably get everyone in Baltimore fire from Jim Harbaugh to the assistant coaches because he keeps killing drives dropping balls. Now. I will never say that Joe flacco slight in the world on fire. But some of the struggles flat goes had this year is because of the number of. Drops crabtree's had he is. He is a ready lead the league in drops so easily ready in the teens in terms of drops this here, but the fact that the matter is he's on pace for close to thirty drops this season. You know, it's a it's incomprehensible that he can be that high and dropped passes. But here we are. You know, this is getting to a very scary place where Michael grab dri may be playing for his job next season. If he can't get it together because he can't keep dropping so many passes because his skill set is diminishing he's getting older and teams can't have drought-prone wide receiver especially in as he's approaching thirty. It's just not gonna work. So Crabtree has gotta clean that that part of his game. Otherwise, he's going to be left on the side of the road, and he's a hell receiver great rat runner. But the hands are very questionable at the moment. I mean, there's no getting around it. Michael Crabtree drops too many damn passes. And he's probably killing your fantasy team. Next guy up Lamar. Are miller. I mean. Talk about the boast uninspiring running back you will ever have. I mean Lamar Miller is the king of the lesson hundred yards. Even though he got over twenty touches brigade. You know, Lamar Miller just who's is mediocrity. I mean, he gets you got volume Miami. You know, didn't work out, you know, and part of it was Miami. Didn't give them quite as much volume as he gets in Houston. But the same time people that. Yeah. If you put Lamar Miller in Houston and the Jim Devine he's going to be a fourteen to sixteen hundred yard back easily. And guess what? It's not even close. Lamar Miller is barely on track to get close to a thousand. I mean, his yards per carry keep dropping each year. He's been under four yards a carry for three. Years running. Now, it's embarrassing. And the fact that matter is Alfred blue is just a serviceable and cheaper. I you know, I was surprised that Lamar Miller didn't get the cut this year. The only reason why I think Lamar Miller didn't get cut is the fact that Dont'a foreman had the killings injury last year and still wasn't fully recovered, and he still, you know, looks like he's he's going to be off the pup list, but you know, the fiscally unable to perform list. But the fact that matter is is that foreign is coming in for the stretch run a game. I wouldn't be shocked. Lamar Miller gets dropped entirely in favor of a tandem of foreman in blue at some point. I mean, again, this all depends on four men actually getting healthy, which is a big if because it's a it's an achilles injury. So you gotta bear that in mind, but Lamar Miller just is so bad right now. Even though he had one notable game. That's usually the case will Omar. He has one noble game where he reminds you. Yeah. He can run for a hundred thirty hours in the get a couple of touchdowns. And then he'll go back to back games like the past two weeks and get under forty yards rushing. It's infuriating, and you know, he just doesn't get yards after contact. There's just like as it gets touch. It goes down like rock. So again, not someone to be keep it on your Oster and just giving you abject frustration. Just cut the court as like, I know you gave them a hydrophobic, but cut the court. It's I it's pretty much a one where you could stick a fork in them. And we'll talk about Jarvis Landry. You know, I was caught off guard by this one one most. Because of the fact that the amount of talking he did in her knocks in the wide receiver room, Utah for sure this guy was going to like the world on fire this year without committee was to Browns and a sample chain, a new culture and identity, and it's gone. Absolutely nowhere. You know, I would say Jarvis Landry wanted the biggest disappointments in the fancy season. Just because you know, he gets targeted. He's not open all that often. I mean, he's pretty well covered. I don't know if it's the route running or what the issue is. You know because Ryan tannehill was not a good quarterback. And he's performing even worse under tyrod Taylor who's comparable quarterback and Baker mayfield's showing that he actually has signs that he could be a good quarterback in this league. I mean, I'm not sure if he he's going to be in the league QB, but he shown potential he'd be good to very good quarterback for a number of years just because of his moxie and the way he's he's willing to attack defenses. It's just that Jarvis Landry is not putting up the goods. I mean, he talked the game during hard knocks. But in terms of actual regular season action and performance he is not like he's not getting targeted by the offense. He's just not getting himself in the position enough to be open enough that I mean a lot of these are contested ball. So, you know, he's gotta be this man, and he has not June that he can do it. So that's where I am with some of these players that you can move on from just the spare yourself additional pain on your fantasy season. Now, my final note, I wanna get into because this is a developing story, the Golden State Warriors have suspended Draymond green tonight against the Atlanta. Hawks down on the face of it. You know, the Atlanta Hawks suck, and, you know, even without Steph curry and Draymond they'll be able to rule the hawks easily. The fact that matter is is that dream on is being suspended one game for contra conduct detrimental to the team. So basically, the what happened the other night the warriors suffered in overtime loss to the clippers, and you know in the game itself. Draymond grabbed the rebound with under six seconds left. He tries to ball up the court clippers managed to knock the ball away. What basically happened. There was you know, Draymond trying to make a play on his own didn't work out. But what you see in the clip is that the ransom next dream on. He's. Clapping for the ball dream on way looks off and drives down the core. Durant after because this wasn't deluged the game. They still had overtime the playthrough during the break heading into overtime rank confronts. Draymond about why you didn't give them the damn ball and dream on took umbrage about the tone. That Durant took befo and flat out just escalated, the situation to the point where you know, he called him a bitch, and you know. You know, I it's one of those things where it's like, you don't say that to a grown ass, man. You know, I don't understand what the context of how the argon without knowing really does. But like what you can sense is that the something's going on with golden say with relation to Kevin Durant's impending free agency because there's no way that that interaction should've escalated to the extent that it did the fact that Draymond felt the need to call out Durant. The way that he did so publicly at the bench and then after the game when they lose an overtime because again, you have a situation where Buki cousins of all people is trying to deescalate the situation to get guys focused. I mean when boogie cousins is the crisis negotiator. You know, things are in trouble. But you know, I it's a case where they were. Not focused in that overtime period. They lose the game. So that compounds the problem and then after the game, you know, Draymond and drank out further and Draymond questions Durant's commitment to the team because of his pending free agency. And you know, that's where things get a low murky because you gotta situation where clay Klay Thompson. And Kevin Durant are the two big Vegas free agents on the market. I mean, obviously Durant is number one overall, but Claes not too far off and number two is like people wonder s me clay, Thompsons ability. I mean could be a star anywhere. I'm loved to have clan. The Knicks, but be that as it may. The words of presently constituted. There's not a team in the NBA that can beat them the only team in the NBA. They could beat the words are the warriors at Bain plaud-. But you know, this could be an isolated incident. But the fact that the warriors management went to the degree to suspend Draymond green shows the level of sensitivity that they are paying attention to Kevin Durant free agency. So no matter what dream on may feel about how Kevin Durant is not respecting him or other warriors players on the roster that been there longer. It doesn't matter decisions have been made. So Draymond has to come to realize that you know, the decisions have been made by manager at that protecting. Kevin Durant is tantamount to winning a title. They look at it as long term. It's better for them to keep Kevin Durant that it is the one at title this year. So. Regardless of the team cohesion. They are looking to keep Kevin Durant happy. So a situation like this where clearly the rant and Draymond were not on the same page and got into a very heated argument. You know, that is gonna be scaring the Jesus out of the warriors because the moving to new Rena next year, they are gonna start a new generation of warriors fans and the pope land, and this is to keep clay and Durant together with this Rosser with Steph everyone else, I think are negligible. I I honestly think boys Mandarin are prepared to lose some of these other guys so dream on being chief among them. If it means that they can keep a nucleus of clay, staff and Durant, and it's just that simple. So dream on has under- sand that. No matter. What is read a wrong in this scenario? He's gonna lose this fight regardless. Durant? Get the power is negotiation because Durant can leave worries management. We'll do everything and empower to stop that from happening so dream on has a fall in line and keep the keep the peace with Durant. Otherwise, he risked being moved off into different bundle moved off into different bundle trade with other teams, and you know, he'd be an entirely different situation. Yeah, he could make money on another team substantial money with getting Amax contract. But he'll never be happy as he is. With the words because a you get to win and Draymond is a very prideful guy that likes to talk a lot of trash, and if you eat losing he is not happy. So this is the best for him to be in the NBA. So I suggest that he swallowed his pride. I'd and just man up in give the apology because again, no grown ass, man. Wants to be called the b word, and you know, be told told that by another man that supposedly is his co worker, but you know, if we're talking about the standing of things it's not the pecking order heavily skews in Durant's favor instead of dream on dr- during my may be the emotional soul team. But in terms of an number standpoint this day, it is clear that Durant is still the guy that they have to hold onto move forward at they wanna keep this dynasty moving. So like I said this story has potential to ripple down the road. So the biggest question that has to be where this Golden State go from here because you suspend dream off for one game. What happens if he has another out bus of the rest of the season? That makes it a very tricky tricky game. So that's. I mean and by game. I mean the game of trying to keep the dynasty going because. Yes, when he the title is number one priority, supposedly, but realistically for warriors management, the priorities keeping Durant in in Golden State and away from any other locations that could hurt him as well as keeping Klay Thompson away from the Lakers because they don't think for a second. The Lakers don't have their eye on Klay Thompson to pair of LeBron. So that gives him the dynamic outside shooter. Lebron is craving for right now. So that will do it for the show tonight of fleet. Get some useful value out of it and keep tune because we have more sports on tap this week. So think should be getting lot more interesting as we head into the thanksgiving holiday next week. So go on folks.

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All-Time Podcast Team: The Legends

The Solid Verbal: Living College Football

57:49 min | 1 year ago

All-Time Podcast Team: The Legends

"The. Welcome to the solid. Verbal. For me. I'm a man on forty. I've heard so many players. They why wanna be happy. You want to be happy for day eight state. Thai? Welcome back to the soliver boys and girls money is tight Hildebrand. Joining me as always over there, beautiful New York City, my man, then Rubinstein sir. How are you? My revised answer is a team of twenty two Tyler Medicare by Medicare and Medicaid. It shows believe I know it's Medicare, but the plural of if it's too Villabhai, right? Twenty two Medicare by is where I am. I'm coming down. It would be a brutal brutal game to play against twenty two of that guy. But that is my final answer walking back to the show boys and girls tie. He's dan. This is the solid. Verbal don't forget to subscribe to the show. Yeah. Going out your website salt. Verbal dot com where you can find all of our links. The history of the show all the good stuff that, you know, you want if your first time listener, check it out. Salver dot com. 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Everything going well house. A little man. A little man's doing. Great solid, baby. Is thriving started sleeping on his stomach because he's dreaming of are all solid. Verbal teams he is. He how do how would you describe tonight's show like, how would you because it's one thing to say like this is our, our favorite players at each position or position groups. Whatever since we started the show in two thousand eight but it's not our favorites. It's not who we think is, necessarily the best of the best, but it's who we believe in, if we were given a choice they sing to us in a in a special way. So, for example, between Marcus mariota and Colin Kaepernick, or something, you could look at stats, you can look at a wards and something might be objectively better decision wise. But at the end of the day, like you know what I'm just a Marotta, and I'm doing it. Well, let me let me use a different example. And I don't the I'm giving too much of the game away here by thrown out Tyron Matthew. So what we did. Last we his we talked about our sentimental favorites. Maybe guy had a funny name maybe guy was really good in college in do much in the pros. But we're not talking about the headlining act. Just guys that for whatever reason. Spoke players good plan era defined an era. You get the drift. Be. Oh, we're doing tonight are. I think it will not when I think of our all time team. I'm looking at a guy like Tyron Matthew, as a really good example healing phases. He's a consensus pick. He'll only played two seasons at LSU before we got kicked off the team. But in those two seasons Theron, Matthew made it impact he made an impact got nickname, we're going to talk a little bit later but all the different ways that he changed the game but it didn't take a whole lot. I got a couple of guys on here who had one remarkable season that stands out might, so I'm just the semblance players in some cases seasons. Putting. Together, the bits and pieces since we started this podcast mind you back in two thousand eight that have collectively made up for my own little college football reservoir. Yeah. I mean I'm looking at your team right now. And I am shocked color me shocked three Camac Daniels at running baths, right? Yeah. I just best looking guy in college football. Is he though there was he most photogenic guy? I think was pretty good. I'm still partial to, to our guy in his fifties. So we had a lot of commentary on the show looking sexy Randy Etzel, come on. You gotta okay sorry. Did I cut you off? I polish is no, you're good. We had a lot of commentary on the show did a week ago man. A little bit more time to prepare for this, Dan. Let's get rolling. Let's start at the quarterback. Whoa position, headliners. Tell me who you considered before your choices, or choice? Well, I considered Cam Newton. Yup. I consider Cam Newton because of that remarkable run. He had with Auburn incredible. And he was unstoppable in that one singular season. I considered guys like man's Zell because Mandel really did change the college times in the SEC, right? Like his style of play his edge that he played with it. Absolutely had an impact, but the two that I eventually settled on one was a guy that let's be honest. Sentimental vote sale. It can be both. It's a little sentimental. Had a good college career Nick foles had a better pro-career has had a better pro career being. So we want a Super Bowl as an MVP of a Super Bowl just sign a monster contract. But Nick foles guy that we had a lot of fun with on the podcast back in two thousand and eleven mainly because he played on a lousy team. He was the best player. One of the best players on really bad team with throw for five hundred yards each and every week in a losing effort and that nickname caught on it's still with us. We still get tweets whenever he's playing on Sunday. So Nick foles is like my runner up just purely because sentimental value. I think you've put it on the wrong show. I may have put on show, but he was probably in the last ten years. He's probably not one of the best forty college quarterbacks audible benching. Yes. Okay. He's your honorable mention you, you worm sentimentality in tonight's, and who is your actual pick for the quarterback who has best defined excellence. What's, what's. The Simpsons award outstanding achievement in the field of excellence Atari who who is that award winner. It's gotta be Tim tebow. Okay, one. I think it's a good pick. It's I wouldn't have considered it, but I still think it's a good pick won the BCS championship twice the Heisman once one hundred and forty five touchdowns accounted for over four seasons. And over twelve thousand yards from scrimmage. I'm not sure why you wouldn't consider Tim tebow. I think he goes down as one of the best college quarterbacks. One of the best college football players of all time. For me take the stats in tandem with all the other intangibles and the answer is clear. And it's Tibo. Did you consider Sean petty? Do you remember that name? Of course, the Maryland linebacker forced to start at quarterback against I don't. It was Georgia Tech or Wake Forest or something. Ago, the had to be under consideration because all of the quarterbacks reconsidered knew they were replaying quarterback that season but not necessarily Sean petty. I considered Marcus mariota Heisman winner and took his team, three or starter. Took his team to the national championship. Game comes up short for sure. But was electric from the moment. He stepped on the field Lamar Jackson. Yeah, I don't know how you don't consider Lamar Jackson for everything. He did as he thrived, those specific two years, I have Tibo on here. Now, Baker mayfield's is I all time in terms of statistics Baker Mayfield and Cuyler Murray stand out. And that's an insane thing because of this era, I have RG three here because his Heisman winning season was extrordinary, and then Colin Kaepernick, what he did it, Nevada. I'm not I'm not putting him in that top duo for me because it was, I think he's a wack quarterback. I'm not fully. Keeping that against him. But at the same time he was just so good. What was he? The angry ostrich something I think it was the angry ostrich I have Menzel and Johnny football, and Cam Newton on mine, because of just how electric they were within the fishbowl that they sort of put themselves into because of trouble or attention off the field. And the fact that they were able to shine was, it was just incredible TV and that goes such a long way for me. Johnny Menzel setting all sorts of records, winning the Heisman Cam Newton winning the Heisman and both beating Alabama in impressive fashion. I just when I think about this past decade, I think we've probably spent more words talking about both of them than any other two quarterbacks. And so that, that to me is reason enough, fair enough, fair enough. So we're going Mandel Tibo on a bed that a bad is pretty good at thirty as long as his long as Menzel playing Alessio. All right. Who got it running back. So running back was actually easier than I thought it would be. There have been a number of players who put up huge yardage and huge games. Like, how do we how do you like leave off? Mel gore, for instance while I did. I don't know if you did. But I did which troubles may. But I went with more, I would say complete talents. I have Christian McCaffrey. I love do everything all purpose types, who also happen to be great between the tackles. So I've Christian McCaffrey for his insane all purpose ability, Leonard for net because physically and being able to run as fast as he did at that size. And just for that ole miss Chuck alone. I don't know how he's not there and I just I felt compelled in my marrow to put Leonard fournette there. Then the guy that almost embodied a combination of both them the all purpose ability, but also running hard and physically, I've Dalvand cook. Okay, wasn't it didn't put, you know, three four years, you know, loan starter tonnage of yards. But dalvin cook at his best and he he did it over a season. I felt was it was impressive. In a way that even McCaffrey, and for net warrant, I, I was terrified of the thing about I loved, it, the thing about Dalvand cook was not the say that the other guys certainly McCaffrey and four nint- didn't fall into a similar category. But Dow than cook almost to a greater degree felt like he was taking every ball to the house. Yes, every time he touched it. You knew there was that game breaking ability. The others were outstanding in their own right. I considered though Christian McCaffrey, I considered Alvin cook for that. Same reason, I'm gonna play this just because. Gore played the mill gore sounded while earned it. He's great. He was fantastic. Trent Richardson's another guy had a really stellar college career, we also had now awesome conversation about whether he could kill a horse, ran full speed and shoulder charged horse. One of our very first backup might be better than better with Mark Ingram in front of him. Yeah, the two names that I'm going to throw out there. I'm surprised you didn't mention will Michael James, I, you know, he would he would be under considerate. He is under consideration for me. He's arguably the best organ offense like non quarterback offensive player ever with how productive he was. And just three years. I feel like because of the chip Kelly regime under which he saw his five thousand plus yards as a running back that system was different, the system was fun. He seemed to kind of come into his own around the same time that, that Oregon football program was really truly ramping up and becoming cool. He was kind of the face of that to summary. And so for me he's, he's in the backfield here on my. Remember how he got his starts why. He was thrust into the starting lineup. You know what? I don't lagaras blunt punch Piran. How? Yeah, that's right. That's right. He was. He was the backup. He had red shirted wanted to transfer back home. And I think it was Utah was his first game, and he ran wild and. Even though blunt came back later on in the season, it was a Michael's backfield the other name here and perhaps, I'm biased, you know. No, this is a great name here. Gotta go saquon. Barkley now, a little bit of recency bias here, I tried to avoid the younger guys as best I could not because they haven't been outstanding. But just because he tend to remember them a little better. But along the same lines as Dalvand cook and Christian McCaffrey. I can't think of anyone since we started doing the podcast who embodied that big game, breakaway explosive ability, the way saquon is saquon wishes fun to watch. And while Dow, the cook new could outrun everyone AFI hit a whole one cut boom gone. Yes. Saquon would find a way to invent a whole and then he'd be gone the ability to distract a defense to attract defenders. So that trace McSorley throw down the field to someone else. He just changed the game in so many ways that stats can never reflect and. A huge beneficiary of the Joe Moorhead era. Yes. Where they were able to get him the ball creatively. And I think the point is, I think you are looting to it that the best of saquon. Barkley might be the best of what we've seen from that position. The reason I hesitated, a little bit was there was some wildcard element to his play where at forty seven yards against northwestern. And I don't know if that's his fault. I don't know if it's play Collins line seven yards though. Those were fun. Forty seven the best of saquon. I think it was the Iowa game. It was certainly the USC game in the Rose Bowl, the Michigan game at home when I think he lined up. He took a snap a sort of a wild cat type running back and ran a counter to the house, with basically not being touched the best of saquon Barkley was terrifying. And so that's, that's the best thing I can say about somebody like that. So I he absolutely deserves to be here. Let's move onto wide receiver a gopher. I've got I've got four wide here for that I feel very confident about your first selection on here. I had I was so angry at myself or not immediately thinking of him. Michael Crabtree the up. So Crabtree, was right at the very, very beginning of the podcast, gotta go way back in time. It was the two thousand eight was the year of the catch, right? The, the catch. Yeah. Crabtree, had thirty one hundred yards and forty one touchdowns in two years at Texas Tech now, granite different system wide open system. They're throwing the ball. They were throwing the ball under Mike Leach pretty much every down. But his ability to change the game. He was unguarded -able unguardable in the college game and certainly to put up numbers like that in just two seasons. Speaks to that point. I can't remember. Well, I've got I've got a couple other guys on here who are unguarded -able in their own ways. But Crabtree to me is probably the alpha dog in this. Category. I think that's right. He red shirt. I think he was a high school quarterback. So they weren't really sure what they were gonna get from him. And then he was basically a receiving prodigy is redshirt freshman year. He catches whatever it was over one hundred balls goes about two thousand yards over twenty touchdowns and was one of those receivers who it's just a handful in the last decade, I'm not gonna say he stands completely alone where an opposing defensive coordinator whoever is, is trying to figure out what to call Mike. They're probably going to Crabtree and you know, there's nothing you like yeah. Okay. And would you want to try and he is living that freshman year is just something of legend? And then he makes you know, arguably the best catch, maybe outside of the, the game winner, Falah Bama in the national championship game of the past decade as well. Psa Crabtree for me is number one. Yep. Number two, isn't that far off? And I know I know he sort of fellow on a bad way after going to the NFL and again we covered. That a bit on our previous show. We're looking at college athletes, what they did on the field. Justin Blackmon in three years at Oklahoma state thirty five hundred sixty four receiving yards forty receiving touchdowns. He was another one who falls into that category, where he was. He was virtually unguarded -able was drafted what the top five ish number five in the twenty twelve draft by the Jaguars. He's a guy that I remember back when I was playing fantasy football in twenty twelve twenty thirteen twenty fourteen I was bending over backwards because I was wholly convinced that Justin Blackmon was gonna be the next big thing in the NFL, and it didn't work out for multitude of reasons. But yeah, black men in college, not necessarily having to do with his talent, not, not, not having to do with this talent headset had some substance abuse things, and all that aside from pure, talent, perspective, and certainly in the college game another. One who falls in that unguarded category? I don't think quite as high as Crabtree, but he's, he's at least he's at least in my wide receiving corps physically dominant. Unlike a basically every receiver in this past decade and was the rare guy and there's a guy on my list as well. I don't know if he was as big as men where he would just run a across out a drag route or something like oh, that's a smart play called, you know, third, and eight and you're getting it to him a little bit of space. He's gonna get that. And then, like, I think he just ran forty seven yards after the catch which at that size which one of your three are you referring to I'm referring to marquees Lee okay to item, Mark. He's Slee was somebody and he was a little bit more all purpose because of his ability in the return game. And that's what pushed him for me. I just remember he had a window of clenching you're holding your breath. And that to me is that one of the, the highest compliment I can pay because USC wasn't always in a great place with them. And I know he had some injury issues and Robert woods was also there. And he was again. Unlike all the next guy's even better and at times it did seem that way, markedly. He was just also electric with the ball. But but built that solidly that he, he would take that six yard route Mike oh now. He's at seventy seven to the house, cool. Yeah. I remember the marquees lira was YoM with you on that will twenty twelve I think, is when he peaked. Yeah. Yeah. Who's next for you? I I'm a little bit wishy washy on your next pick. I've got Mike Evans here. Yeah, good at what he did no great at what he did. I think one of the primary reasons I Mike Evans on here. First off, he was huge huge almost twenty five hundred yards in two seasons. Seventeen receiving touchdowns at 'em before he decided to go pro he was he was another one who was very difficult to guard. Didn't quite have that breakaway speed, but was still pretty quick, and obviously a mom. Monster. Coming out on the field. What I'd say about Evans though is there were so many games where man's Zell was connecting with Evans that sort of the find an era of college football from me. Some of those really big games featuring Mandel, also featured Mike Evans, and taking again until tally, the size was some of the moments and certainly the stats. I think I think he's in this wide receiving corps for me. I don't know that there's a better instant deep threat go up and get it like in the offense of meeting rooms tech say 'em, it the conversation may have just gone. Hey, might you cool if we sorta like send you and kind of throw it up, and you'll just come down with it like oh yeah. Totally now that works for me. Okay cocoa. That was Mike Evans, and they're very few of anybody that were better physically at attacking a ball, deep. But was he the most polished route runner? I don't know. But you know you throw it up to him in the end zone. On a on a nice fate. You're getting six and that's crazy impressive. I'll be honest with you, if I were, if I were actually ranking these from refer Evans would probably be fourth behind Sammy Watkins, I had such difficulty here, but continue Sammy Watkins had the numbers clearly had the numbers twenty eight touchdowns thirty seven hundred plus receiving yards in three years at Clemson. He's another one that falls into that game breaking category. Where wasn't the biggest guy certainly wasn't Mike Evans, but his ability to run in space after catching the football and the acrobatics that was on display sometimes catching passes from Taj Boyd. Remember that was a boy era. Yep. He was unbelievable, another one that I was wholly convinced was going to be a monster in the NFL in it hasn't quite materialized to that degree. But had all the. All the tools that you needed everything to really be a game breaking out. I'm going to read for twenty twelve's Clemson, receiving corps in why it was difficult for me. New cop gins Sammy Watkins Martavis Bryant Adam Humphreys well. Pretty good force. Not bad. Pretty good. Foursome. And that's all ignoring the fact that Mike Williams comes along and is excellent Arteta's, Scott, whom I missing. That's you know, since then, you have well, Dionne Cain. Ray Ray MacLeod onto Renfro. You got hunter Renfro Jordan legged at tight ends, then Justin Ross and T Hagans like it's just it's been such incredible. Run it receiver. It was impossible to select soy didn't take any of them, you took Watkins, and I thought that was good enough and rightfully so okay. So you've got to others on your son. Yes. So I had marquee sleep. I explained that Tehran. On Austin, that's a good. I just I thought about Taylor Austin one hard. He was. Yeah, he was just in that his trail in that he made me weaken the knees. And when asked to just get spot duty at running back I wanna say against Oklahoma. But maybe that was a huge receiving game that he just stepped in and ran for three hundred yards. He was eve. With having another all American caliber in high round draft pick. Instead, men Bailey opposite him take on Austin was with the ball, just one of four people, whether Percy Harvard, the Anthony, Thomas take on Austin, whoever else I was just so fast. And so just stupidly, dangerous that I couldn't leave my just I felt too much alleging on Austin, and my final pick is Tyler Lockett. Kansas state. Okay. I the excellence when and this is another like everybody knows Tyler lock. It's getting the ball. He went for over five hundred combined against Oklahoma in Texas in the same season. He was so automatic on a team that at times struggled offensively that he bailed him out of so many situations and games. And just if Crabtree guard -able Tyler Lockett, SunGuard -able, and the, the degree of difficulty, I would say for Tyler Lockett within some of the confines of the cans. State offense made it even more impressive at times to me. I loved watching him. I wanna go back for a second. Okay. Take on Austin. Yeah. Take on Austin is such a good pick. I was so plumbed an NFL team couldn't figure out how to use them, or he couldn't how to be an NFL all-purpose weapon. But come on. Take on Austin, doing everything for West Virginia he had looking at his stats in twenty was twenty eleven was twenty eleven twenty twelve years for hundred eighty seven against LSU. I remember that game that was at home. I believe. The spot duty at running back was, I'm loading it up right now. But it's just like what more could he do through forty four the ground running back against Oklahoma, twelve in twenty twelve I mean, then I consciously and changed, because we just talked about Clemson and just in terms of his influence with the toss. Sweep in the Orange Bowl chur West Virginia. Clemson gets Kevin Steele fired who is illegitimate good defensive coordinator, and still is and Clemson turns Venables to test, sorta modernize their defense and the rest, sort of history for them. But damn Tehran. Austin, you're killing everybody. It represents so much of, I think the hype so much of the building expectations at that time around in Holson. Yeah, because he really came into his own under holders, and that was the Gino Smith era reserves. So there was a lot of. Excitement around that West Virginia football program, obviously a little bit of different place right now. But Dave on Austin's a really good pick. Really great our pick here. I will always remember 'cause I interviewed him I asked him if you didn't go to West Virginia, where did you wanna go? I was dying for an Oregon offer just like you. Twenty twelve Oregon with tape on Austin de Anthony. Thomas, and the Michael James and Kenyan barter I guess it'll be twenty eleven. From the flex bone. That's what that was my reaction that all right next position. So we're gonna do ofensive line that we're going to take a momentary. Pause. Yeah. And continue on with the defense. We haven't done a whole lot of deep diving of offense of lines over the course of the last twelve years, or so, the first name of my list is also the first name on your list, and that's quit Nelson. The up Quinnell silence of Notre Dame violent as an offensive. Lineman clearly paying dividends is a high draft pick now in the NFL really the full package when it comes to an offense of Lyman. He just mold people in mauled people in an era against teams that had really good big the fence of lime in there was just never match never matched that he couldn't handle Georgia LSU, all of these games, he showed up. Yep. That's the first one also in the Notre Dame category. Although Ronnie Stanley in there. Oh, that wouldn't have been my second pick for Notre Dame. I don't think it is my second pick, not even categories just the way that I group them mentally. Because they're both from Notre Dame, but Ronnie Stanley at a very good. College career shouldn't be overlooked Stanley over Zack. Martin Zack Martin's a good one to have been a lot of good Notre Dame offense. Weimin correct. Yeah. Barrett. Jones should be higher on this list, then perhaps, I gave him credit for Barrett Jones when when he was playing for Alabama. I will never forget is long as I live. We were doing a podcast during Barrett Jones junior senior year. I forget, okay, I had Andy. Staples on we were talking about a bowl game of BCS or an SEC championship, but big game featuring album. Staples loves Barrett show, love Jones, and I made an off hand comment at the time saying that I forget which album superstar was the best player on the field. And you could tell that he almo- like Andy is a nicest guy. In the world, right? He's been in any lacy year. Yeah. Something eighties. Nicest guy in the world. He's not looking to show anybody up. But that was probably the closest he came to sort of putting me in my place, because he said, excuse me. The best player on the field is Barrett Jones, and of Stahl stop. Hard to watch an Alabama game and hear about the Alabama offensive line without hearing about Barrett. Jones GPA. Difficult difficult. And that's okay. I think he's doing CSPAN now. I think he's young radio TV stuff PIN. So he's got a bright shining career in front of him. But yes, that's a very good pick. I know he he slid around the line a little bit. He was a left tackle. He was a Senator he did what was asked to him. He probably did. Rubik's cubes. He was great. I, I can't argue with that pickett'll whose last few the other name I have on here. No. Facial really put him on. But he is notable because there was a movie made about him literally, the year after he left college. That's Michael or from Laos very good. Very good college. Yeah. Notable, perhaps more. So for other reasons, but when on to have a pretty good pro career. Yeah, certainly good solid career. Yeah. Michelmore interesting name. I so. I had Quinton Nelson. The only other player I had here was Brandon Scherf all because that's the other like and they didn't run particularly. Well, if I remember correctly, when Scherf was anchoring one side of. The line. But what he was able to especially in pass protection. I, I assume it was was Mark wise men, or Akron, wad, -ly. I don't know whoever it was was damn lucky to be behind Brandon Scherf, because at his best, the violence was also there. And those are two guys which anybody who watched either Quinton Nelson or Brandon Scherf watching their cups watching their highlights of what they were doing to defensive lineman. The only correct reaction was like, how do we get a guy like that on our team didn't you tell me you had find that who would who would pump himself up for leg day or whatever by the former offense of live shooting? Yes. Love Brandon Scherf. But there was there was a lot to Brandon Scherf. That was just excellent. So Nelson's my, my standing alone on a hill pick for this, but yeah, both those dudes. So great trae Jackson also council. Little bit for me. I, I really liked watching him at Florida state. So I, I would probably slide him in there as well. So. Listen, speaking of that, Dan, if you decide that you wanna stand alone on a hill, I always do make sure that you take your away luggage with you. When you're on your way, there, I'm using it this weekend. Away is the name away. Offers high quality luggage at a much lower price by cutting out the middleman and selling directly to you can choose from nine colors and four sizes. 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Let's flip over to the defensive side of the ball. Dan? Yeah. Do you have a kick returner? Anything are, are. We gonna do that later. We can do that later. Okay. Defense start me off with your defensive linemen, there is some similarity here. It was impossible. It was impossible. I know who I have as my most impressive player, that's dominated, so, yes, two thousand nine and consumer was going to wreck you, and that is a reality that you were going to have to make peace with. I'm so sorry for what he put you through cult MacLay must be very harrowing. You must wake up in the middle of the night, sometimes and you can see the grass underneath his cleats. I get it. He was impossible. He was next to it was Jared Crick, right? Yes. Next Jared Crick for Nebraska. Who's that confused with it was Audrey on Jared, Audrey? Yeah. Yeah. Very, very confusing for me. But Donna consumer was. And I have other names, here who were unstoppable, unguardable terrifying in Dhamma consumer, I think, to me, still stands alone on this hill, as I've as I've been saying who else he got I've got and cloudy just because physically athletically from defensive end. We have not had another Davey, uncloudy, Judah viane, excuse me, I've Aaron Donald who in terms of production inside the how quickly he got off the ball. The fact that he almost athletically was a safety at defensive tackle, he was so nimble and just all over the place and disruptive. I Aaron Donald is there for, for pit, it's just it is one of the great tragedies to me. And I don't care that much about the NFL or the NFL draft. But that he fell as far as he did where there's nothing anybody can do about Aaron Donald. Why are you not taking them in the top five that's insane? And then the final answer is somebody who's undersized because these are all giant dudes my first three. I Vic Beasley there. Yeah. The speed with which he came off the edge to me was just terrifying as well. And I know they've put Clemson has put a ton now of great defensive lineman into the NFL you know, all four this past year, but going back to shack loss and Kevin dot whoever there have been great ones. Vicki's Lii was for me. More must watch than any of them. And as runners up and I went with TCU's defensive ends on the sentimental show. I kinda just wanted to go with the twenty thirteen Mizzou defensible. Just I don't know if even all started, but Michael Sam Kony. Ealy Shane Ray. Marcus golden in the same room is just it's worth noting. So I've got indomitable sue Moore, as you want said, Phnom to con-, SU nam Dom, Dom de Kong. Yeah. Today. Cloudy, both those guys are they have to be all time defensive line here. Here's a guy that you missed. I'm ready JJ watt. Yeah. There multiple watts. I missed JJ watt is easily the most interesting storyline here. Keep my remember his story, he was a two star tight end outta high school got a scholarship with Butch Jones at central Michigan. Yeah. And then left had the as to leave so that he could walk on as defensive end at Wisconsin. Obviously had an outstanding college career left after his junior year eleventh. Overall pick by the Texans. The rest is history had a pretty good NFL career whenever he's able to stay healthy. But when I remember about what not only his -bility changed the game. His ability to back down balls has had an impact in the NFL and certainly had a bigger impact in the college game as well, because it's just it's it it's not the same caliber, offensive line, not the same Gabar quarter. Bac opposite that and what was really a game changer when he came in and started making his Mark in Wisconsin. We haven't mentioned any Alabama defensive linemen, and there are a ton Gallia. I would spotlight Jonathan Allen. Just because I, I loved him so so much sentimentally, I would, you know, mount, Cody, I think we brought up I was hoping to bring up I don't remember if I did last week, but Jonathan, Allen's may among that very long list. And there have been you know, whoever it is courting up shar a Sean Robinson, guys who've been drafted high Jonathan Al and being able to adjust to so many different styles. There's a bunch of LSU, guys Brocker Sam Montgomery. Glenn Dorsey was, you know somebody that we probably should be listing in these top four, but there's just not enough spots. I just man, you look at the long list of Alabama. Do like I don't it's the same thing that the Clemson receivers for what how my suppose choose just one Glenn Dorsey, by the way, was before the Sullivan will. So don't feel bad was he not eight? He was. Oh, seven. Oh. Okay. So now, I don't feel bad rest assured. Okay. Okay. Let's go to linebacker. There's one here. It's an obvious one. I have to say Mantar Tayo, who Mantar tale will forever go down as the victim of that weird cat fishing thing. But all that aside, and the zoo, the circus that that was. One of the most decorated college football players of all time, had one hundred or more tackles in three straight seasons one a defense of impact player of the year. Ward the Lott trophy, the Maxwell award, the but Naric award, the Bronco gerski trophy, the buckets award, the Lombardi award, and the Walter frigging camp award. We'll how that my friends is a hell of a college career. I don't care what he did at the next level. I don't care about the weird cat fishing thing. Mantar Tayo was incredible as a college linebacker deserves to be top this list. Okay. I think that's, especially with what he was asked to do within the I guess this would be the challenger right to your Camac Daniel best looking. What was it offensive? Coordinator's Jakko, your Bob Deok. Oh, yeah. Is a challenger? God. How did I forget the name? But, you know, dropping into that sort of center-field pseudo-safety spot. He was asked to allot within that defense. He was incredible really had a an incredible run. So that's definitely the end of Notre Dame linebackers for you. Correct. Also got Jalen Smith. This is your fifth Notre Dame player. Okay. Jalen Smith was amazing Taylor. Smith was amazing. He was going to be if not the top pick, probably a top three pick in the twenty sixteen draft before he blues knee out against Ohio State. He was everywhere. We talked about Joe Schmidt on the last show. The contrast between Joe Schmidt, and Jalen Smith. Seeing them next to each other on the field really showed you how gifted this kid was. Now a fact that he has healed up from his injury took a couple years but was very productive for the Cowboys last season, my guess is the Cowboys got a steel, they're willing to invest in wait on him hoping that he'll up and it seems like the kind of thing now it's gonna pay out dividends at the next level. That's right now, the other name here that I mentioned before I throw it over to. I don't want to disrespect Alabama. Oh, so wanna talk about Rolando McLean. Yeah. He was. He was superb. He. Was unbelievable. Yeah. In the two thousand nine season is kind of thing that sticks out from the early days of our podcast. Remember talking about Alabama and just coming across his name in an article, or recap, or highlight as I was watching and doing the studying the necessary studying to do the show. And it was like holy freaking crap. This guy is so good. He is so good that oh nine season sticks with me, now relented McLean, had a lock go on after he went to the pros, and there was a bit of a downturn there that we won't talk about here. I saw he recently got a degree from Alabama finishes degrees. So that's good coal. That's great. But certainly in terms of athletic prowess. It was all there for Landa McClain. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm gonna group Orlando McLean with my first pick because I think there's a lot of similarity. And just how much they were able to do whether a sideline to sideline in coverage in. In stuffing the run and just diagnosing things. You mean that's what you want from your either inside linebacker, middle linebacker right there? The quote quarterback of the defense, there is something about the best of the best at this position going back to in the modern era of Patrick Willis that was before our air. I believe or else he would be on this. Yes. Yes. Where you remember remember on saved by the bell Zach would be able to freeze time. Yes. He like, hey, I don't think you know, she even realizes that I'm going to the dance breaks the fourth wall. There is something about an excellent middle linebacker who as soon as the ball is snapped. The entire play freezes looks around in time, continuum space time continuum, that nobody else is privy to like what's going on here. I see what's going on here. And you just you couldn't get anything past Luke Keithly Orlando McLean known terms of diagnostics, they would look at you and you'll be like, oh, maybe I'm passing. Maybe we're. Going deep. Mabel run couple slants, you're not doing that. Maybe were scream. Now running a screen, what are we doing? What are we doing? I think you're gonna run off tackle. Maybe counter like how did you know, and that was the Luke Keithly and relax McLean, experience, that they just had this intuition like they had hacked into the radio in the quarterback's helmet. They was so fun to watch. Both of those guys, so I have Keithly who had seven hundred forty four tackles in his three years. I have Jarvis Jones who had a weird path going from USC where he was medically. You know, not clear to play the ends up at Georgia Evan. He just destroys everything you wanna do from the edge as outside linebacker sort of stand up, rush and outside linebacker. He was incredible to me, then my final pick. It's a combination sentimental and just excellence. It's font has perfect man. I still have nightmares about vont as Bertha CT vonda perfect. And I was also considering miles, Jack here just because of what he was also asked to do on offense and just this would this would have been sentimental, Owen Marie sick playing fullback and linebacker. But vaunt birth, if you have not had a chance watches college stuff, it's all great. He's mean he's angry. He's gonna get a lot of penalties and it's gonna be kinda worth it. If you're rooting for him, but if you ever have a chance to watch his high school film. Oh, yeah. He's just amounting everybody. He looks like he's twenty seven he's never been kissed. Whatever. Comparison you wanna make. He is stupid in high school and in the best possible way and makes me want to if you ever have the opportunity to come across our friend, Brandon Huffman, and you just end up talking about west coast high school football. I don't know if this true avant has birthed but just reminded me of him. He will he will pull out facts. Like many people know this advantage Bertha, CLE is drag racing legends and knows everything about everybody. And I just love that von perfect destroyed. Everybody in LA. It was great vont has birth does perfect in that picture of him pointing. That Barkley maybe icon. Ick. Totally iconic. All right. Next up defensive back. We already talked a little bit about to Ronnie badger. Yeah. The Honey badger in two years. He forced eleven fumbles recovered. Eight of them return. Two of them for touchdowns had four interceptions ran back to punts for touchdowns. I couldn't find it in the stats, but I'm certain he blocked kicks along the way and was just a special teams wizard in he changed the game. He he had such a nose for the ball and his playmaking ability, wherever he was on the football field it, it's different than saquon Barkley obviously. But it it's that same sort of edge where you just, you know, the potential is there to change the game anytime the balls in his acidity. And it was a shame the way things went down at, at LSU that we didn't get into the year from him at LSU and, you know, he's obviously moved onto the NFL now and as a decent career, but his first two seasons at Ellis. Hugh, when he garnered that nickname, Honey badger. Right. Just a ton of fun to watch as a fan. There is something about value added with guys like Tyra Matthew where you're right. It's, you know, the punt returning special teams the ability to go from safety to nickel corner to blitzing from wherever to just a, a standard corner, whatever that he could occupy so many roles in the same drive in the same game. Whatever that he was just too valuable to leave off this with his as high level and has game changing as he was for that. Same reason. I've Jalen Ramsey. Okay. When you have that all feel defensive ability to make plays no matter the situation. I just those, those are the two people, I want my team, maybe more than anybody on this list outside of sue is Matthew and Ramsey just because of the versatility on defense where you can task them with anything and they're not only going to be competent, but they're going to excel. So that's why both of them like you've also got Patrick Peterson and Eric berry on your list the I doubled up with LSU guy. Because Patrick Peterson was just smothering. And Eric berry, just the intuition. They're similar to what I felt feel about Rolando McClain and lewke cly, but Eric berry just game changer at safety could come up could play centerfield diagnosed everything quickly just a football minds in the defensive backfield that almost stands alone over this past decade played for what was in football talent as well. He'll Fulmer and lane kiffin, I wanna say the teen interceptions in three years had seven picks into software year. Now, bad went onto a long, and prosperous NFL career. I think he just out released by the chiefs, some serious hurdles to the NFL as overcome a ton another name here that, you know, I don't know if he goes, as one of the greatest of all time, I was a named with Taylor me's from US. I love Taylor Mays. I don't think he was that good. But I love. So here's the thing. Taylor Mays was a three time. First team all. Merican. There aren't a whole lot of those guys. So at least in a college sense, that's pretty damn good. That's, that's among the very best. He was a frequent torpedo was coming down from that safety hit hard. He was six three to twenty six and this was only USC timing its own players. So take it with a grain of salt, but they had timed him at like a four three two. Forty are dash. That is a rocket coming down from the safety position. Mulling guys, huge work on the NFL, but who cares Taylor Mays? I had a serious serious serious thing for Taylor Mays very into the Taylor maser at USC if you were to put together a team of player like the off the bus team, you know, a lot of sports writers and TV people be like I let you getting off the bus. Just something else. It's just different Taylor. Mays is a get off, you know, getting off the bus kind of player at that size how so impressive right away physically. He was also at times, probably the least favourite defensive back of USC fans. Yes, he was. Yes. To throw your he was gonna throw his shoulder into you. And maybe decapitate you or maybe you're the opposite, the opposing player, which is bounce off and keep going, he was that he the wrapping up left something to be desired. His coverage skills at times left something to be desired, but physically he could deliver something unlike probably any safety or you know, three safeties over the past decade in hindsight. Probably for the best that he didn't play during the targeting era. Yeah, I'd say so, so there you go. The other name here. I've got his prince amukamara. Yeah. Also, excellent very good at Brassica better Nebraska than handed up being in the pros, fun name lockdown corner. I don't know. We had a lot of fun with him prince. I liked Brent's. Yeah. I mean, those are some seriously great defense, those Pollini defenses near it was like, oh, eight oh, nine ten somewhere in there. Those were crazy impressive kicker and punter beginnings. Yeah. Just want punter hair. I have JK Scott and Michael Dixon because they're putting a hurt on that ball, and they're placing it, and they're pinning it and they are, it's not cute what they did, like there's something like that. The we like making not making fun, but having fun with, like all punters crazy. Good like no, they were I don't like punting. I don't like the conservative nature of a lot of coaches and offense of coordinators at times, playing field position, when mathematically, it makes no sense. But if you have Michael vick's, if you have JK Scott, you can pin, somebody inside the five pretty consistently in big games, again it. But if you don't let's, let's. To be a little bit more aggressive, but those two just absolute boots and accurate consistent. You know, forty five plus yards average both of them. I just fall under the almost the Quinton Nelson like how do we find that guy? Yeah. How do we find that because definitely changed the game? For those teams for Bama in Texas to be clear, JK got Alabama, Michael Dixon, Texas mine. Is Roberto Aguayo for Florida? Yeah. He was pretty automatic. He went one ninety eight one ninety eight as a kicker on extra points over his career. He was one for one in field goals zero to nineteen yards twenty eight of twenty eight from twenty to twenty nine yards. Seventeen of seventeen from thirty to thirty nine yards. Again, we're talking about a college kicker here. He's kinda of guys don't grow on trees after you got beyond forty. He. Wasn't quite as successful. But eighteen of twenty four over his career from outside forty five of eight over the span of his career from outside fifty hit fifty three yards in the college game that's a weapon. That's a serious weapon from twenty thirteen to twenty fifteen for JIMBO Fisher and they took full advantage of it. Hundred percent. Did huge who else we got here? Do you got kick returner? I go Danny the Anthony. Okay. Yeah. 'cause he both kick returning and punt returning, Chris Wu is a name that I would throw in there, we're about CJ Spillers. I think that was right at the early that, oh, a I think that was, I think that can wait. Oh, nine somewhere in there. It was very. Yeah. He was always nine he was very difficult. I think he returned three or four either in one of those years. Yeah. He was very difficult to leave off because I was going on. And on about all purpose and versatility. And he had the game where I think he ran caught and threw a touchdown. Right. CJ Spillers worth mentioning in any context for the best of these these teams. All right. Well, there you go. We wanted to try and put together like an hour Wong show Ryan. I think if I listed out everyone that I wanted to at least shout out, we'd have been here all night. But please let us know what gets up on social Selva Jamila come. If there any names of stand out to you, that should have been on our list be aborted thing is, we included both casual dress, James Franklin, and Nick foles. Yes, yes, I know not including nape, Sud feld kept kept trumpet, but, you know, you've persevered and Jake reduc. I'm trying to think of. Who is okay? I have a question for you, because I have an answer. Okay. Who is the most? Ultimately, I don't mean this to be super main, but inconsequential, but will hold a soft spot in your heart more for this one very specific thing. So Tim Tibo did it. Well, Tim tebow who's freshman year because you selected him as your quarterback. He was the change of pace short yardage trick play. You know, does the jump pass stuff like that? Right. Right. There are two players that that ultimately became their role and they just it ended for after that. Okay. Eighteen Wheeler package. Or the bell does are. Who, who do you have a softer spots, the t Wheeler package because I don't know that we I mean, is there, anything more like of this air than like he's going to come in and is generally going to run it. But, you know, sometimes it's gonna throw it poorly. The teen Wheeler package for me was okay swoops, okay. 'cause there, there was so much energy that had no into branding that making it into like a feel good story now. And it really wasn't all that great. So, and I'm trying to I don't have the list in front of me, but a special shout out if we're gonna talk about this past era of two thousand to modern times of that opening weekend game. We were like all buddy. This is set the tone for this year at Notre Dame and Texas both weren't good. That was great if I'm getting my years, correct? All right. Well again, you know how to find us if you haven't already, please subscribe to the show, you can find over links out at solid. Verbal dot com. 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Cam Newton Injury; Biggest Training Camp Surprises & Preseason Thursday

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Cam Newton Injury; Biggest Training Camp Surprises & Preseason Thursday

"With the n._f._l. Podcast can't figure out what exit bill stance. That's not true extreme in football league. Welcome to another edition of the around the n._f._l. Hard cast presented by sirius x._m. My name is dan this. I'm joined in a room filled with heroes mark cecil chris wesseling and greg rosenthal. What's up boys right access extreme right so the person so that came from a listener in the listeners listen to a series of shows and views us as has mental dolts. I mean maybe i'm wrong. It's all league also has been will please happy friday. Everybody buddy has done great. I'm great good until i heard that now annoyed now. No it i get it. You got the the winter cap on here in los angeles with nothing but this polo shirt on and then it was like a meat locker here so put the old gray shirt and a hat on when thursday and they get it and make sure you check it out if you haven't yet because i'm sure your fantasy draft. Is this weekend the week coming the fantasy extravaganza who's the twenty fifth annual <hes> fantasy extravaganza and what a celebration it was to mark that milestone so i didn't get a chance to bring it up but i wanted to make one more point point one more nugget that got mark from the wesseling rosenthal richeisenshow appearance which again went over like gangbusters everywhere you turn social media action around that the guys look great and i i mentioned this on instagram twitter <hes> but i want to say in person and you guys looked really good on camera fit. <hes> well dressed fit yeah. That's generous well-spoken. It was just a nice. It was a nice thing to see. Represented presented the brand well but did wanna mention mark that i heard through the grapevine that <hes> you know west c. E. positions himself as the man sitting at the top of the common man rankings okay sure he does famously birdie told me that he took a limo to the rich eisen sure the minute the limo not be true with that is eroneous. There was no limo and the poor driver had to take out a baby seat to put us in a car service. It was a co yeah it was it was a labor. What am i gonna do not take. Let's actually i i have. I have footage the west side of cincinnati a working class area. Let's cut to the west side of cincinnati their reaction to the news that was his mom bear worked up in west is defense. He doesn't drive an automobile these days which is kind of a common man thing so well you know if you get off the columnist over the pickup truck and rumble over to direct t._v. Headquarters or i would say just the simple uber x the lowest tier uber off expensive expensive easily with the company pay. I'm sure says it very cooked up appropriate response to this though i was told by the people on the westwood cincinnati that i was getting up. He wore doctors once in a while this one thing i learned that episode cd behind the glass. Ask that you guys are asking. I'd now understand going back here in i become onto but when i'm back back there i realized these guys are impossible to deal with total vote. They're living up on clouds and i just was appalled by what i viewed especially off air sobering sobering stuff stuff mark <hes> coming up on the friday edition of the around the n._f._l. Podcast some preseason week three takeaways. There was a handful a bushel title of games played thursday in what used to be the most important week on the preseason calendar and i guess it still is but it's different now. It's just different. It's just not treated in the same way it once was but there are takeaways and we will share them. Also greg wrote a banger eight. It was it five thousand words twenty twenty twenty five hundred really work anyway. Biggest training camp surprises says going city by city by city. Now mark would ask look at all the compliments i'm paying to the group today can up saying it so i have to go back and bleep all these words. I keep saying a word ask. Also i have to go back and do all this work. Whenever you are puttering anyone up it just four purpose snick tear drop right there so greg wrote about his his from his viewpoint that big camp surprises in each city so we'll hit that but before that let's do some news going broke by hype. I know what i like because i'm banking on the browns to be that winning type little wins to just credited swipe co had turned up chases stereo dorsey spin and at making the right imagination at work. Com general electric moves one after the other all this new talent show. Let me hear your bark that noise freddie ready with the cleveland boys maker in the back with the fashion poised to believe believe len got some brand a new toy wave brown making these shiver like illegal fire like the cuyahoga river flows pockets is bernie kosar hose. Wow that was not cardi b. That was connie fox zika the tiny box colleen wolf this morning on good morning football all about your brown's mark. I'm blown away in one little there's so much impact there but she mentioned shinzo baker mayfield's fashion poise and i you know what obviously he did the g. q. thing and i saw all the tweets everyone calling what the coat he wore. His grandmother's towed owed all this other stuff. Let us. Let's be real about one thing and it's now. It's his turn to be ripped apart for his fashion choices. Every one of these quarterbacks that does one of these fashion spreads and really any any rich male any male to become super rich or starts wearing clothing that is so beyond what any of us would ever comprehend putting on that. He's just like anyone else. At this point. It's not set new gimme a break with the mark sanchez spreadsheet that that to me was they had that level rate. He's not picking. The only question is whether he takes them with them. I think think bakers at the point he's taken those right was it was like a joke on on twitter that was actually his grandmother's coat. No it just looked very much like like a coda grandmother mother from any century might put on jess any century johnny facts where she wrote that i guess she did. She did it and she performed it and then i think she won the rap battle between her nate. Burleson is predicted and kyle brent. Wow nicely heritz nate you. You know the cam. Newton got hurt unbelievable on thursday. He left the preseason game against the patriots. <hes> with foot injury he he left the the stadium in a walking boot and rap sheet reported friday that an x-ray and other tests <hes> he was diagnosed with a mid foot sprain in his left foot general manager marty harney told rap sheets that the team is quote cautiously optimistic that newton will be ready for week one mhm against the rams week one which is now just over two weeks away and <hes> wes you know we didn't mention cam newton in in <hes> the fantasy extravaganza during the stay stay away chatter but he was on my list. Just gonna get a chance to bring them up. I just i'm a little bit nervous about cam because <hes> obviously really any thirty year old quarterback said to shoulder surgeries. You get nervous <hes> but he's also had ankle surgery now. This foot is right connected to that angle is it it possible that a guy. It's taken a lot of abuse over the years. He's breaking down. Is that a real concern to be having. If you're a scary one well i mean. Is it possible astle sure but i i don't know it seems more like bad luck to me than breaking down amid foot sprain to me. The greater concern is that i haven't liked what i've seen out a will greer the quarterback they draft third round guys like ryan finley. The bengals mid round pick and jared stood on the patriots mid round pick look a lot better. I like i've been impressed with eastern. Stick a little bit from the chargers but will greer has not play and he got up rave reviews coming out of the draft. It's a bummer because cam newton got really good reviews in practice for his arm looking great like throwing the deep ball pretty well. He's got the new motion you kind of excited to see this new cam and now he's he's gonna be coming in to a brutal week one matchup as it is with an injury even if he plays you would think they're gonna try to limit him. Being their goal line you know back which he essentially is in that and you just hate going into the season. I don't blame them though like everyone says this shows you can't play your players in the preseason. I just feel like that's a little too easy like certain. Things like every team is a little different. Certain teams believe that it's gonna help if you're playing football. You're going to be a risk. It's a bummer when they get hurt in week. One too and it's not going to happen in practice. What got injured is going to happen. If you're playing football. The patriots thought it was important for tom. Brady you to play football. I think he did too and it's like everyone's gotta make their own call but that doesn't mean never play west nailed with the bad luck but i mean because newton in two thousand fourteen he fractured a rib and a preseason game and missed regular season action to to dance point. He's had a concussion icon so i get. There's some of these guys. I like to call them just like a bug because they're constantly getting getting the injury bug biting them left and right. We're always talking about their injuries cam newton up a buck like he got its december twenty. Four tina gets into a random car accident and you got bad luck. It's bad luck. I'm not saying that his point being is that the car accident perfect simple that's rotten luck and yeah injuries sucking their rotten luck too but when they start start to pile up for guy that his plays a certain way i would be starting to get nervous if i was a panthers fan but he might wanna reconsider. There's glamour scooter shoot shoots on his way to the stadium for multiple reasons and it is like you said he's got a very tough match up against the rams greg and and it was a bummer watching a diminished version asian of newton labor through those last five or so starts last season and now you have a situation where the panthers who just wanted to turn the page and now you might have hobbled newton week one. We'll see what kind of progress he makes as we get closer to that sunday moving on bad news on the throne of sleaze patriots safety patrick chung has been indicted by a grand jury on a charge of cocaine possession <hes> this this occurred in meredith new hampshire on june twenty fifth. The felony charges charges only one <hes> charge is facing. Excuse me the felony charges the only one chunk of spacing <hes> no other individuals involved <hes>. He has a court date coming up. He doesn't and have to appear at it his lawyer appear on his behalf. That's an august twenty eighth arraignment so we'll see how this get sorted out right but <hes> greg chung is important important part of that defense and this is a pretty heavy off-the-field situation be hanging over it. Yeah it's unclear what it's going to mean and for his status. Whether could he be playing week one. Could he be suspended. Could he just be away from the team for the whole year like no one has any idea but to your point a huge patriots fan who we all know well. Let's call them burke. I mean texted me apoplectic after this thinking that after gilmore stefan gilmore and tom brady that patrick chung might be the third most valuable page. I'm like all right. Let's let's calm down there. I know he covers tight ends well and he's versatile but let's calm down with that. It does mean though that doron on harman who's been a starter the last few years in some people thought would maybe not make this team might get traded to one of those patriot south or west coming out of camp. Looks looks like he'll make the team. I think that's kind of my take away because they're going to need him. Now it'll planning though because it sounds like from you when you piece together the report that an alarm went off or something thing that alerted the police who were going there to help obviously and assist and then bang. Your house is not put together. They're checking on a a burglar alarm. Civilian lives there instead the civilians. I think maybe about the the cops. Give a little wink patrick clean up the snow something like that. They feel differently meredith shovel era. You gotta get out. Operates knew how to get the snow plow back off the grid systems. This big lake the biggest lake in new hampshire meredith. This is lake winnipeg sake kind of wild up in up up there. It does and i don't know enough about it. I'm not obviously obviously making any comment about patrick chung guilt or innocence but it is interesting that i feel like every six to nine months. There's some like mega. Criminal charges connected to the new england patriots. Let's go you know. Connect the dots over the years. I know everyb- there's team players in front office. Officials get in trouble from every organization got got quarterbacks dispensing their phones and dumpsters because they don't want those to be examined. You know it's it's a broad i would just say take out the red string you know the registering and criminal investigations and then just go basically year to year is going to go through the through line manhunter season three. Yes no. Maybe it'd be so great that they get <hes>. There's been a lot. There's a lot of gates. There's been a lotta stuff grind to get more attention. They've checked all the boxes like at the level from petty misdemeanors to capital murder and everything in between like tumbling naked into a police station that to the ones the more humor based okay. I'm gonna do bad chunks integrate star you know he left. He left he came back is one three ring since he's been back is what's been much better since they originally originally cut him back in the day or trade him. This is the deepest patriots defense. I remembering years. They're going to be good again. Let's move on michael crabtree. He's back two weeks after working. After the cardinals left without a deal the veteran wide out of reach the terms with arizona on a one year deal he joins joins a group <hes> receivers led by veteran larry fitzgerald christian kirk <hes> keyshawn johnson not keyshawn and isabella oh and hockey and butler kevin white the former bears first round pick he got cut. I guess that's <hes> crabtree. Essentially replaces kevin white on this depth chart crabtree thirty one years old mark spent last season with the ravens had a big role in the offense at least until lamar jackson showed up and had six hundred and seven yards receiving three <unk> touchdowns a guy that maybe finds a way to catch the ball in the end zone but not the most explosive guy at this point of his career. I mean i i gather that they brought initially a obviously he's available but that he played under mike leach texas tech so he's very familiar with the offense and i think you know you opened cardinals annals camp and there was this buzz about kevin white and where kevin might white men might end up in the offense for us. It's all wait and see and he's gone and they also lost to kim butler so there's there's a spot out there but the keyshawn johnson instr- news is interesting to me because it was josh wine fuss of e._s._p._n. That said he may have had the best training camp of anyone anyone on the cardinals roster veteran rookie alike so they need they need people to step up and turned into glue for tyler murli right away he mukisa johnson's a six round rookie very shifty quick. They wanna play with four receivers and this show is why when we project the starters i do this at fantasy. The owners are draft in india's a bell well. They're going to have four receivers and they like the college evaluation of andy isabel and they like kim butler and that's going to be there for and you just never i know with rookies. Isabella just doesn't look like he's ready to go into me. This is basically we don't wanna play this guy. We like johnson and crabtree's gonna be in there and that's our the top four with with kirk and fitzgerald. I'd like to point out that in the last two off seasons the two teams with among the worst wide receiver core is in the league have said the way to get better is to get rid of michael crabtree and now a team with one of the worst wide receiver core is in the n._f._l. Is a way to get better as to bring in my i think he can still play he savvy. Though you know remember the there was a report where they couldn't get a deal done with crabtree two weeks ago. What has he done. In between he fired his agent and then he hired the same 'agent who represents cuyler murray and cliff kingsbury spot which seems like a conflict of interest when you're representing the number one overall pick in the in the coach and there's a lot of that agents there's a lot of young wide receivers on that roster and a young quarterback crab. She feels like to me was bill. Parcells coined it once upon a time progress stopper stopper. Perhaps perhaps let's move on. It's also a big play stopper. The cowboys cowboys make a big deal. Oh man a big ed contract but not with one of the players you might expect. They reached agreement on a long term deal earlier this week with linebacker jalen smith the cowboys is <hes> made the deal official after a rap sheet report. <hes> steven jones said tuesday. The extension is for five years and it's worth sixty four million including thirty thirty five and a half million guaranteed. He's under contract through the twenty twenty four season. If you're a listener of this podcast you've heard chris wesseling singing the praises of of smith all throughout the two thousand eighteen season any such a great story after what happened at notre dame where he was. He looked like a stone cold top. Five pick suffers a terrible knee injury and you're not sure if he's ever going to be able to play in the n._f._l. Does affect his draft stock but the cowboys took a chance to us. They took him high in the second round. He sat out his rookie year and became one of the best linebackers and football yeah. It's a great story. At one point. He had dropped foot syndrome and he could barely he had no range of motion in his lower leg. Ah it's an amazing story. Nobody thought that he was gonna come back and be one of the best linebackers and football which he was for the last few months of of last season along with late and bandra. He's he's a guy that you could tell even in his second but definitely last year his third year. He's such a leader for that team that he impressive human. He's off to a member right and end in the cowboys in training camp the just the way that they would talk about even in even in the second year you could just tell the influence he has overall them in the way he approaches and kind of joy he has and the way he talks about latent vandrau's in the two of them seem like just a perfect pair to to sign forever and and i saw some criticism that's like this is a relatively team friendly deal like it could have gotten more money if you waited out like this is a guy who had his entire career rio flash before his eyes is happy to have it. He's two years away from free agency and i hate that where you're like china get into someone else's money saying that you you should've tried to get more money. It's like he's his generations are secured for you know his son is in is the next generation after that like don't don't tell how people not to sign a big contract if they want to shut up and i mean the cowboys you know i can't think of a team in a person with more than jerry jones who was attracted to high risk high reward or draft picks and they don't like randy gregory not working out at this point and then they essentially you can look at them and say maybe you stretched on that one but this was viewed you that way too and it has worked out beautifully and i like a team that once you find that position group that is stacked you don't decide we're going to keep one move someone else and go lower money at the position so a lot of teams do that and their general managers can't figure out a way to keep all these guys keep this group together. The defense has gotten so much better and i'll give smith the last word because then his press coverage you said pointing back to the cowboys essentially taking that risk on him in the second round. Here's what he had to say. You took a risk. <hes> you know a a four point five million dollar risk you know had never been able to play again so me understanding that it was my duty for them <hes> to get the return on on their investment and they've been able to do that and you know now fortunate enough to <hes> to to really be a cowboy for life is this is what i wanted. I like those stories now. Cowboys keep doing work so they have to talk about contracts any more and more to discuss. It's not going went away tonight. <hes> injury news from the preseason <hes> drew lock on monday night football pre-season edition sprained <hes> his throwing hand and that's going to cost them a lot of time. It sets back the broncos <hes> second round rookie to the point where he could start the season on. I are boomerang right mark. Yes but i hear some flack. Some people are saying. I prefer ira. Boomerang and people are telling me that they like a boomerang. I are the without rolls off. I always thought that sound a better person. I like boomer again. It only goes back to the fact that it's not sticking on any level as a true term because people can't even describe and what rights happening right eric if you could describe in thirty words or less what is i are boomerang. Put it on the spot like in football all terms yes bounce off and on the injury report mean. That's about seventy percent right. She's very close. It's like a new. It's like a new role for new listeners. Injured reserve used to mean you're out for the season but now you can put a player on injured reserve and they can come back as early as i believe eight. Weeks is the earliest isn't it to players now. Yeah you can do to players now that and that is i are boomerang. I believe you said bounceback. It's sort of like idea that the boomerang you're sending them far out of field and in return frisbee that part that things in the woods this is almost like it almost takes a vic fangio n._g._o. And john elway off the hook because it would have been embarrassing when kevin hogan was their backup week one which i think he would have been whether was hurt or not. I don't know i don't know that for sure but i just think lock one of my takeaways from this. You know a pre season is just there joe flacco blame this season. I would've thought i will right but even if the rest of the team's terrible or some you know if he doesn't play as well if they were like one in three. I would have expected okay now. Everyone's going to be talking lock locks. It's not playing until it's week sixteen in it. The broncos are out of like i just don't. I don't think there's any i'm saying if you know boomerang. I ars sort of like a side piece. You can keep them there. You know you kind of keep him out of the limelight. You don't knock yard for right but then you know what they you say west. They always you can always take them back up the hallways big backup sidepiece and someone back yard and it doesn't cost you all this mommy right it doesn't you're not you're not going out to yeah. You're not in every week. Ken costs money. I would've moore's little devastating. I mean they're they're paid a full salary so breaks down on a little there but has anyone ever seen they come back as anyone ever seen someone successively throw boomerang. It's impossible. I owned one child. Did you ever throw it in back to you or not. Really now you can go straight and then hooks right and then lands about thirty seven feet away from your running a suckley yeah and australia and listeners you know oh to. I was just gonna say over under one hundred tweets. You're going to get from australia right and it's another reminder of how much better life is just in general just in terms of like quality of life now than than before in most of the work. This is such a greg set all the mental illnesses now. There's a lot at some point though the when they invented the boomerang boomerang it's like wow that's the best entertainment option. We've got like the biggest revolution. We've had it entertainment decades. Wasn't it minute. It was a hunting tool. I believe the garbage so it's for sustenance and survive combat it with facts finally in the news step behind the red velvet gentlemen matt nagy is back in the headlines for all the wrong reasons. We've been tracking this. I mean no podcasts has been hitting this story ardor. How the bears have been handling their search for a kicker occur after the double dunk cody parkey sl drops a hammer. I don't know if you guys had a chance to read this required reading. This is a saga that interests you <hes> breath really digging into what exactly bears have done <hes> this offseason they brought in nine kickers nine kicker is brought him in like cattle oh for slaughter and herded them together and use that bizarre scoring system that byzantine is that work in the total area perfect to try to explain how they re progressing then cut them it will had little notes humiliated the mendon a treat them like football players and then they were left with four and now we're down to one poor poor guy. Who's the last guy there eddie who i'm really scared for <hes> he. I don't think he's gonna be there air week. One kicker usually you bring in like atmos- three or four kickers if you're really looking the best brought in nine and and it's a really the story about this in some way coenen dude this is it was all the kickers real old hollywood casting call if you can't take the pressure of a kicking competition and what are you gonna do with five seconds on the clock. Here's what notre dame's justin you while you're in lockstep with matt nagy but everybody else thought it was ridiculous. I was connected to it. Just in unit kicker for notre dame had this just to say it's not efficient for the team to continuously beat that one dead horse the whole time. You have to build a system of confidence for your kicker. I don't think that's how the bears are running and shout out to you for actually speaking out a lot of other kickers. They and they spoke anonymously june. He's there other bears kickers. If you go look around their comments i think what what they were sort of saying. In general as camp press on was exhaustion with the day to day pressure the forty three yard stuff augusta silence. How soft are these is. I'm not arguing that they're not our job or lets people. I know that's what that's the point but bill parcells used to walk up the as a rookie in start putting and voodoo autumn and walking across his path in the results business and the bears coaches have gotten terrible results so tonight they bear some blame blame here that whatever they're doing. I've million dollars at a good kicker. It's not working yeah. Someone's should assigned your buddy myers. He was available. Jason myers can we. We like do that players. Can we start gains before. We say it's not working. That's fair. I don't well my point is this whole process isn't working because if i could i would. I'm guessing none. One of these players will play for the bears in regular season game including eddie panero their their their kicker. We'll be someone that's on another roster yeah because then you are how how much money if you sunk into airline flights and hotels and all this other. You're just gonna take matt ryan off the golf course in a week absurd. Why why isn't that brian plan for anybody. I i didn't wanna bring it up because i want. The jets quietly signed him but you know i were responsible. Listeners the mention that he would make sense the theory is that great audience audience great state front office. Men in the mayors are now going to figure out the matt bryans available sh when going to florida park. That's what's happening in the news all right. Let's do some quick preseason thursday takeaways. I am so tired of preseason and i respect you guys. If you have a ton of notes to share on this and we could do a beefy twenty minute segment on the seven games are played last night but i'm not gonna share it too much so i'm going to let you guys handle. The bulk of this greg geddes going what was something from the third action week. One there was a very significant development in the redskins game which is that various guys played football law at the pro level for the first time and looked good and that is a big step for a guy who still hasn't been cleared until this week to be in a game and and look like it kind of the guys that we saw and highlights in college. I mean there. I wouldn't say he looked great but there were enough to build off for a first appearance that you're like okay. He's gonna be factor week. One that's a big that was developed. A couple runs where i wondered if his speed was all there but he laid a farm on someone they gave him the first six carries and eleven in all and they gave him a catch and for me after you. You know you talk about them. You know it what behind the scenes how hard they're working to get their body back and it's a good story for a team that is to weapons depleted than a team that could use some good news team nice tight end last night. Jordan reed eighteenth time. You know we joke about when i make jokes about tyler effort in how i believe in him and he gets hurt every year so don't take them seriously with jordan reed. I mean and i hope this isn't a serious head injury. I mean that was one of the worst hits i've ever seen a player. Take to head. I think i mean i feel really bad for him. And i've seen some tariff joking. Jordan reed stuff today but like that was a vicious brain injury in these how he sat a lot of of them but man that was a tough hit to watch on replay ended a preseason game west mark and i can tag team this one because we both watched jaguars dolphins and i thought that josh allen the jaguars number one pick there. There may be a couple of teams regretting not drafting him. He is a huge player. The size speed combination is is very impressive and he to me. He looked like i told mark like a roadhouse woodhouse balancer during the middle of a midnight melee just hip tossing guys out the saloon doors while somebody's breaking a chair over his back. He's just going through the dolphins offensive line like they weren't. There is benefit esque. Yes i for me. I have question marks about how the john filipo and nick foles offense offense is going to work in their overall doug marrone world and everything that you know leonard fournette looked good last night. I thought which was which is a nice development but they're going to need to keep restocking defense supernova and josh allen. There's a play if you can go find this on twitter. Obviously your plane to us at the listener anymore. You heard that there is a dolphins oftens right side of the line with jesse davis dion calhoun two guys that just got absolutely josh allen just to kind of both of them with his arms and just swept them aside and buried a running back like nine yards in the backfield. This is a guy that i think anyone who drafted anyone else above them and they all the reasons to pick her. They did are going to be measured by how josh allen <hes> in the in the most impressive to me was one where he flex uncovered a running back in the passing. I think it was kaelin blige and destroyed him. Yes and you just don't see that from guys that are essentially playing a defensive line and the the announcer kept making forget who was a good point that allen's going to change up the way they do defense because they're always very traditional four three but he's more of a stand up guy and when he's out there it just makes them more flexible not as if that defense needed any more we're good news be fun when josh josh rosen led that thirteen ninety nine yard drive which was impressive. I thought all right that's cool and they'll do it with josh allen out there right. Josh rosen gotten some pop and we'll we'll switch into that last few weeks in he's may man. He makes. I said this even in arizona. He makes some really impressive throws and he did that in this game but i didn't watch that game and think oh like oh josh rosen made his move. There's no it's one drive and it was against the backups in fitzpatrick has not looked sharp up in the preseason which is worth noting but florus seems to have already decided to be based on practices that there really isn't a competition and troy aikman. I you tweeted about it. I mean tori made a comment and you know you obviously he's hearing stuff spending time with the coaches that it made it sound like josh rosen just has not really league grasped the offense or picked it up the way that you'd want him to and that they just feel more comfortable in that ryan fitzpatrick is look bad and games but the whole fitzpatrick experience silence has the coaching staff feeling much more comfortable. I read i read his i read his common and basically said fitzpatrick starting week one barring him getting like a rock landing on them from the sky the way you get the vibe that they're still hopefully not too big. You get the vibe that he the the baggage connected to them. Is still there charley casserly <hes> you know our own charley casserly was on the show. We didn't get a chance to talk about it but charlie made news <hes> earlier this year <hes> for making critical comments or based on a conversation he had a on josh rosen and you know you wonder if he's gonna get it rosen <hes> but he's gonna start right. He i mean he will totally italy and he has made some great throws aikman who has seen in rosen play u._c._l._a. I mean he said he thinks he's one of the most towns at throwers abc's ever seen period broza rosen coming from troy aikman an atkins kind of see why you would say that man he has he has two or three every game that are just i. They're unbelievable place at some point. They're just gonna wanna see it so bad that there are no one's gonna succeed. They're the most mobile guy and <music> but he made a nice throw and he kind of rolled out and put one right and the receivers hands role to his right <hes> yeah. The tools are definitely there. Speaking of tools young quarterbacks daniel jones continues to look really good for the giants dimes. Danny dies which is nice. I saw they liked the pop up and you know he's twenty. Five of thirty don't read too much into prison. Season stats obviously but twenty five thirty three sixty nine two touchdowns. He's lost some fumbles but hasn't thrown an interception taken two sacks and the is barely played and this is the best possible outcome for daniel jones. What's happened in the last three weeks that he is planted that seed now in and not just pat shurmur his mind but all the way up the front office chain that you got a kid here. That looks like he can handle it like he is not. You're not hearing any reports about daniel jones and <hes> he's not he's to rise not ready yet and on the field. He doesn't look that way and i was thinking about it with when you take a look in the last. Let's say you know year here and a half now when the giants made the decision to take saquon barkley <hes> and sam darnold wet the next to the jets let's and if darnold turns into an all pro and wins the super bowl and all that the giants will always look bad but you know what at barclay who has all the tools the hall of fame running back. Let's face it and he had the best rookie year arguably of any running back ever last year. If even if daniel jones what andy dalton you can't really kill the giants <hes> for the decision they made if barclay is a special is that if you went the next year and got a quarterback who can be good to pair with attention all time running back. I don't wanna get too hyperbolic there. Maybe they mess it up so bad well at barclays jim brown for instance then okay. You're going to look back. I can say no. I don't think anyone says that barkley is the suspect part of what they did. It was just not planning around the quarterback or hoping that they looked into one this year. If daniel jones works works out it's dave gettleman and we already you know there's already the jokes out on twitter which make a lotta sense about dave gettleman sitting back in his easy chair in his office saying f you to essentially essentially every mike francesa in every single media person ever that rift on me. That's how it works works. He's got to enjoy it like i. I'm kind of a dana. Jones makes the giants more fun to watch one of the things i liked in this game because he's had really good pass protection in general so quarterbacks are gonna look better that way but he did have a couple throws against pressure in this game and he's not afraid to just rip it down to thirty thirty five yards with with basketball and it almost makes it made me think about that i yeah i think i've been a little anti giants over the years on this podcast but i think once the daniel jones era starts that's all over and i'm going to enjoy dave gettleman bringing up the daniel jones draft pick in every conversation and talking trash to basically every reporter forever if that happens and you delightful and i think that you know you can talk about him all day but you mentioned it there line. You've got kevin zeitler will hernandez looks like they've found someone very stable for their line was such a disaster for so along that he stepped in at the perfect time nato. There's a problem though i think that's under the radar loss giving them the business there was a sequence with jones where he completed a downfield downfield pass about thirty five yards then got wild got destroyed on like almost like a devops hit from each side lost the ball got up and then one or two plays later standard stood tall in the pocket and put one right down to the goal line that led to a touchdown like that stuff is pretty impressive one note on eli. I think it's worth noting that david deal former former giants offensive lineman told anthony moon ios current bengals <hes> analyst that he hasn't seen eli throw at this much philosophy in a number of years feel like accent former giant. Eli teammate says i mean but what's every quarterback is getting a compliment this summer. It's got a little hair. It looks you know then you watch you. Watch anything he's throwing deep and then you watch daniel jones and who do you want. Thank him <hes> anybody else. Throughout i would say i looked at the the ravens it's eagles game and who knows what's going to happen with either one of these quarterbacks this year but it was interesting to watch the journey of my boy trace mcsorley who i've brought up a few times on this show number one i love with the ravens did here. There was one play in the very early part of the game trace where they essentially handed it off to a running back to justice hill where on a play where they had three offensive linemen in front of them and six people like split out wide the play totally totally failed but i loved it but mcsorley in general like looked interesting to me enough where i think you could find ways to use him to some degree on the field in places if you were going to do that with r._g. Three i would rather do it. Try it with trace mcsorley at this point may that team last night. They're not cutting now. He should've and then on the other side. Josh mccown kinda just just shows you that i mean there was a play where at some point they feel like in four or five days. He's learned the protections and the entire scheme to such a degree an an audibles that he did so much pre snap that he walked over during a time out to the sideline and carson wentz and the coaches were all giggling with them because they couldn't believe how much he'd picked up and that you can just room around network television for awhile or cable television and then if you've done this long enough rollback into a team and unfurled two two hundred yards and make j._j. Are siga whiteside looked like he should be on the first team offense and a quarterback. I mean but mccown still has it in it makes me wonder some of the backups around the league and say you did not yank josh mccown retirement some of these clowns rominger kevin hogan. Please the played against first-teamers last last year. I couldn't play anymore. I'm not seeing josh josh. Mccown is always going to be josh mccown though he's going to come in and do some i love josh mccown some bad things coach on the field right as i three drugs last night. It looked looked like he should've stayed in retirement and then all of a sudden he caught fire. If the eagles front office decided to do it there in front office i buy into right now and so i like the move i am wary of a <hes> hate the move i like it. I'm wary of buying into any preseason high but this does look like the best patriots defense a little while unless in that game again it's preseason but if cam newton and hadn't got heard the story would have been the panthers starting offense got steamrolled they had they averaged offers less than two yards per play against the patriots when the two starters were out there like they were just guys are flying all over and it's guys who have been in the system a long time and it's a very deep secondary area. I think ballot check is loving that. He's the coordinator for this specific defense because i think they're primed. Can i ask one question. Why are we going up to is at the ottawa blue bombers field and finding out hours before the game that the n._f._l. Teams don't like where the end zone is position. Suddenly we're playing an n._f._l. Preseason game on an eighty eighty yard field. That looks somewhat suspect to begin with. I know there's probably even inside this building that would be annoying and bringing that up but like why aren't we three or four months ahead of time scoping scoping that out and saying this is appropriate and we have teams sign off or we don't i was like are they gonna count the stats from this game. This is ridiculous. They're played on an eighty yard and this comes. What is comes a year after mexico city fiasco where the field was wet so they couldn't get a safe enough for the players. I mean the packers for for those who hadn't heard the story. They were gonna play their starters. In this game. The raiders were not anyways but they decided not to because of this eighty yard funky for the packers lost. I first round linebacker sean garrett where we don't know how serious it is but carted off the field. Can i do it. Real quick eighty or outfield sure <hes> ryan finley bengals quarterback. I think they have something in impressive. They're they've got something interesting behind any. He has looked really good three weeks. In a row i accurate savvy. <hes> <hes> hollywood brown ravens rookie first rounder back in plain finally looked pretty good and my favorite thing of the preseason so far matt millen back in the booth. This is great. We thought he was on death's doorstep. He was to quote damasec not survive in but live and he's dropping lines like like later raiders linebacker drop interceptions and he says i got i've seen better hands on a clock great broadcaster and it annoys me of course he's going to be remembered for his time as the general general manager and he's gone to college in terms of broadcasting but people who i listened mellon like as abroad. It's like what does a lot of broadcast it doesn't. It doesn't doesn't mean that you're not as smart person who's really. He's always been one of my favorite <hes> announcer. It's a different skill set right and running. That millon got a heart transplant. You cannot be closer to death store. No then when you you literally have your heart taken out of your body and your given the heart of another another human being. That's pretty cool. Live it up matt millen by the way it is winnipeg not ottawa for the people in canada that we're about to tweet at me. Don't wanna hear about ah love candidate beautiful nation. That's what's happening in the preseason. Let's go week one get here. Greg wrote a banger. There's hello <hes> two ways around it two thousand nine. Here's the headline n._f._l. Dot com i mean i don't do the headlines. What is something to do with it two thousand nineteen n._f._l. Preseason colon training camp surprises for all thirty two teams. I like that little bit s._e._o. But quite direct so you went through every team you threw out a surprise greg wanted to kind of steer the ship here with of your list of thirty two surprises and actually if you read the piece market you read. It did outline how this highlight i. I like guys prepped fire say if you read it the way mark. Did you know you get more than thirty surprises here. That's a thirty eight fifty-seven surprises abridged. Let's say forty six to fifty seven surprises in this content greg of that list of forty six to fifty seven. What are some of yours that you like. The most or the most interesting intriguing well quitting williams is star are at nose tackle didn't take according to connor hughes of the athletic they thought they'd hued start inside between henry anderson and leonard williams and i think they've decided that's not his best position. I don't think this is a huge deal but i think he's gonna probably start the year rotating. Maybe coming off the bench which to me was a little bit of a surprise learning that and they're waiting doesn't mean he hasn't looked good in preseason but he's not going to be a guy who steps out there and his playing fifty snaps may be trae leonard williams to the texans or david clowney and then slide over quinton williams to the end or it could play every snap and then you have a game changing cloudy in the mix as well not that crazy. I warmed up to your trade idea. How many defensive lineman or are they gonna move over the course of four or five years that they do. There's a churn. It's as always churn the n._f._l. Mark the cowboys and you re sign the entire position group and stay strong for the next civilized six seven years. What was that the sons of anarchy what wilkerson enrich so yeah yes that was a run up and moved on what else <hes> how about a d._j. Charq you remember having the first round pick of the jaguars a year ago who had kind of a disastrous he wasn't i or was he. At the top of the second round second <hes> he is now one of their top three receivers came into the season knowing who their top three receivers are and it doesn't include marquee sleet and it doesn't include keelan cole who we used to you know right. Hosanna is about a year on this podcast and so it's now chris conley. He used to be with kansas city. It's dede westbrook who marks boy john. D. filipo boasted the best route runner he's ever coached which includes the findings and adam feeling is as he's falling your stable of two thousand eighteen no reason not to think he's a great guy and <hes> d._j. Shark who e._s._p._n. Called their preseason training camp m._v._p. So he kind of came out of nowhere and he's going to have a role there. Speaking of preseason and training camp m._v._p.'s and this was a bit of a saucy subject on the fantasy extravaganza both the athletic and e._s._p._n. Named sean jackson the eagles eagles training camp m._v._p. Which greg students points out not a sentence the expected to write in two thousand nineteen. Is it possible all that we get a vintage jack. Yes i thirteen hundred. I came in tampa last year. He's been so underrated that he's looked like the same index the whole time but jameis winston is not great throwing the ball and that just wasn't a very good offense in general and that he's looked really good. That's my opinion. What is a vintage and i'm going to look that up. All oh you guys argued west eight hundred yards four touchdowns his at his peak he was a guy could average eighteen to twenty yards <hes> percents. I can't remember a guy that old fast darryl green. Certainly there certainly been some but man. He hasn't lost any speed. He led the n._f._l. In yards perception last year at eighteen point nine over forty. Anyone catches danny take you're not. You're gonna like this is out there but this caught my eye down and carolina longtime hero yeah us us to veteran kicker graham gano could lose his job to someone named joey sly sounds fake which is an even bigger surprise and cam. Newton's deported deported looking better than ever during camp until on dan's corner. Well say you're welcome on the kicking corner but i want to keep these good kickers. <hes> gonna get air. You need hush scenario around here radar kicking bear ray one of these guys is for the bears. You know maybe i wouldn't mind the brown guys sam fixing i don't want to maybe slide is someone got a trade for sly who has repeatedly he's looks so good and gano had a pretty iffy year last year and goes. It's not healthy yet. That's that's part. The issue slides got a leg. I want that's a good jersey joey sly. That's what happened to have a great name sam thicken or you. I want joey slash joey sly. Joey sly could trust him. He'll get the job done. Maybe can't trust them actually but it he'll get it done. He'll get what he wants. Which i think it was sort of the upright noted all these for like the third or fourth year in a row this pile up of maladies and injuries in san francisco i feel i feel like ten years from now. We're gonna get like an erin. Brockovich type movie about what is happening to the drinking water around the facility. I mean it's it's like something is going on here. Here in it's ridiculous brockovich exter- noble but i mean something unusual isn't showing that one. That's it's the football movie we need. You know carlos hyde not so long ago was the golden boy in san francisco and didn't work out in cleveland bounced around and now greg quite a surprise potentially that he might not even make the final fifty three in kansas city. He gave him eight hundred thousand guaranteed and this is where our editors genaro police. What a great job. He's great. I had the wrong side sonus. You just eat is fixed. It didn't even say in the brag about it. I noticed it when i reread it. I was like oh sorry he almost a million dollars and darwin thompson and former cornerback trayvon smith who's like a special teamer who converted to running back just a few weeks ago is going to make the team over carla side. It's a bad sign. Kyle quick breaking news breaking news hollywood teller luanne who the all pro titans left tackle who made an impassioned plea when <hes> <hes> where it got out that he was going to be suspended for violating the league's performance enhancing substances policy well. It didn't work out his his appeal to the league didn't change anything so he's he's out. The first four games of twenty nine thousand six did a lie detector test which many people apparently don't believe in also if you re i understand scientifically right up on teller luanda i mean i know many facts. There are some interesting facts about till the one out there. I just said eh guys. I believe some guys at all. It was an impassioned plea. Have you watched the current season of mind hunter. I will be doing that soon. One one of the serial killers they find a stash in his in his drawer how to beat a lie detector test and then proceeded to beat the lot of a lot of <hes>. Let's go on greg. How about the steelers defense west jump in here to talk some sam lavin okay. Now you know how to say his name salmon well yeah. He's been running with the starters. The dolphins this guy's while kiko alonzo is out with an undisclosed injury and greg it has opined may not even make the team sammy guava n- former n._f._l. Player is playing alongside sam baker who looks really good. Ah jerome baker who looked jerome break game and he's supposedly look this is what happens when new coaches come in sometimes the add a second round pick and rake one mcmillan who who might not make the team kiko alonzo who is kind of you know the old regime and they've got their their new guys if nothing else they gotta try some young players and see what happens hugo allow those kind have a good villain to have on your team. He's a he's a esther. I could see landing with the raiders. So how about the steelers defensive back. I feel like that's been a trouble spot forever. Maybe this is just cam pipe like i'm not too excited about steven nelson who they gave a lot of money to chiefs cornerback but they they're saying cameron saw in an burns who are pretty high draft picks both had really good camps especially in edmonds their safety who has their first round pick a year ago go to is really coming on his second year joe haden who they've really loved. I think they're going to give him a long term contract since he's been in pittsburgh. Suddenly that's secondary looks pretty good. Mike mike tomlin has the has the defense. Why is this defense not good. It should be really good. I don't know why it like. There's no excuse for it not to be a top eight to ten defense. It's i think it's really talented. People are very annoyed with our ability to consta- league bag on the detroit lions but you did note the matthew stafford's practice it just reports etc have been up and down s- throwing with a lot of zip this summer well. Where are we are. We feeling good well. That's what i mean. I don't know what to expect. It's darrow bevill vol. Who's con- you changes. His offense is depending on what team is at but they've just been you had those joint practices with the patriots stafford and just in general the writers is there just been saying the offense just hasn't had a going and you worry about that a little bit with a veteran quarterback. Are we sure they've shown up. The camp outs that it was a few years ago. You've got them for not showing. Have we seen their first team offense at all they didn't. They didn't even their second team. All were their first team. Defensive line is just just now getting back healthy. Almost all of those guys <hes> have been heard at some point well. They're playing the cardinals in week one so we know that arizona's keeping it under wraps detroit saying we're going to do the same thing we're not gonna show you anything and we're gonna unveil our mess massively run heavy offense surprise you just as much carl's defense and you know what get fast enough well well against the cardinals defense. They might be fun. James woodson has always had a you know a bit of a sneaky. Dad bud remember hard knocks shirtless scenes. You know he's obviously a well. Bill is incredible. You know athlete but not cut out of stone like other professionals. Well car arms now. No it doesn't have the pipes of derek carr but he's got the bod working right now greg and you know what that means. You can just tell it in his face. What does it mean. I don't know he's gonna win. Have you picked usually doesn't mean anything. I mean it doesn't it doesn't take much for me to find something positive to say about james winston going at least you're hoping that he's going to turn around but you could tell how when he was scrambling and he's always been underrated scramble. I think he's pretty good scrambler but you can just tallies quicker this year. I mean he's lost some weight. His face just looks like it's college college james eight. You know what they have. They're going to have such a hard decision the box let's say he has a better season and he's a little bit more consistent. He keeps his nose clean and turn the ball over a little bit less. Maybe the bucks don't go anywhere but he shows some growth in the bruce arians era. Are they going to give him a massive contract. The thing i'd say in a very tough spot and this decision it was jason lights pick. He's just been extended if if he has that good year it looks like your interest sanchis tech right. I mean well really do you think yeah me buys them a year to make up their mind. Whether it's real or not fair thought idea oh you could go to kirk cousins rope up or what signed for that kind of more of the blake bortles rap or the buckskin just drag it out if they don't believe they don't believe that you know they wanna give him mega-contract west now. There was one say what if that team goes five and i don't know at some point. Can we not be totally roster. I five eleven. I don't think you need to start a need progress for sure <hes> anything else anybody wants to jump in with one of their own or greg another one of yours <music> all right that it's friday take good stuff greg. Check it out n._f._l. Dot com slash rosenthal. Thank you a real banger. You'll you'll notice the bangers. There's an uptick in bangers now as week one approaches mark. You've you've had bangers wess. You've had bangers last night a great piece on all the other rookies to keep an eye on that have good training camp. Thank you this week. We should talk about that. Let's get into. Let's extend the pot. Let's do it next week. By the way of a surprise that could come out anytime between tonight and twenty forty. Go watch out for this press. Mark not known as we can't say anything more say more. No we absolutely cannot well. We say that you pre. He wrote an obituary people do that. In new organizations also won't say forty batista is generally the go-to pre right. Oh bit writer at this company. How many she writes a lot of it. I'm not even joking but they they trusted mark for a big one. It puts you in a weird spot because not that but it's like. Do i really wanna wait thirty thirty five years for this piece to come out. It's like you. Is it okay to call an obituary banger. I mean that's how i would call it. The last word the last word indecent not a bad at our texting. He called it a long form either at thirty five hundred words or something on what's well. It's it's a a major figures individuals that are you know at some point expire because that would just be a waste of a lot of work at some point they will it. Just we'll our organization. Still you know the file could get lost in the mix i like. I hope this doesn't happen but it certainly possible that you could perish before this person or or total remarks <hes> mark's status of employed loyd company comparison not going to run it then i did think about that like it's like what should have turned this down like i don't wanna get into someone else's business but like being if if judy let's say so you know there's different you know everyone knows talent as contracts so when her contract is up. Can't you just be like what are you going to do with the thirty five obits. I wrote you. You gotta bring me back. You can't run those <hes> if i'm no longer with the company good negotiating leverage. I guess you could yank the violin so i'm a businessman and that's how i've been thinking. Save it for the morbid humor podcast all right before we go a couple of new greg. You want to get a little plug in your little side. Pod is coming back. Oh i didn't i didn't know where you're going to <hes> promote. Oh yes she'll be leaving soon enough. Opportunity jessil nick and rosenthal vanity project is coming back to comedy central podcasts for season two starting september third people should catch up at the old episodes catch up now and rickie by the way connect. The dots ricky's doing this unnamed fantasy project with rank was she's on camera. She is a big part of the the jesuit rosenthal breath all show. She's going to be sitting behind the glass too much longer. It's just more like when you're you're in middle school and move to a completely different part of the country you go to a different in school become a high school person. You say you're gonna keep in touch with all those middle middle school friends back in minnesota by the time you're in a sophomore in high school you you will never speak to any of them ever again. See he's not kind of bird cage. You know no but i'd never leave you guys. Well you say that now we'll we'll play that in the episode where we say goodbye to you. It's like that clip back and we heard connie fox earlier. She used on the latest throwback pod where we talked about her seat her senior of high school august two thousand to you some bangers in that. Are i mean you're revealing her age. Which i don't think is a problem but <hes> just on that she is you know connie's. She's without any type of move. Some people get sensitive about that. Colleagues that one of them i think fair assessment testing guessing differently. I was just saying factually people could put together what her age is. If they were curious you probably wouldn't have thought about it but then you brought up from the show politics uh-huh so check that out at throwback pod and let's. Let's all have a nice weekend. Let's have a safe weekend. Okay all right got ready to go heads off or quite the mailman the old boss. I could sit here all day. You guys ready to go and ricky glass. Go for it until monday.

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At the Podium: The Unfeel Good Win of the Season

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45:56 min | 9 months ago

At the Podium: The Unfeel Good Win of the Season

"Hey there podcast pals. I'm John Stolnis. The host of the PHILLIES pod hidden season. One of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation. Look the baseball. Season is one hundred in sixty two games long. And there's no way you can watch all those games so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness. You could ever want and make sure to check out our other podcast including the award winning the dirty inning with Justin clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin and Laze Rozier. Subscribe on Apple podcasts. Or your favorite podcast APP and the Eagles are at the podium and we have it all for you right here powered by SP nation end bleeding green nation dot com. Your John stolnis coming up. We're going to hear from Doug Peterson in and Carson Wentz his post-game comments with grass. And then we'll hear Peterson's Monday afternoon update but I my three things from the eagles uncomfortable yet. All important twenty to to fourteen win over the Chicago bears in the second. Part of that is something. I don't want people to miss. This was an important win on Sunday afternoon. The Eagles beat a team that won twelve games last year and has one of the elite defenses in the NFL. Do I feel good about how the game went down. I do not but let's take stock of where this team is right. Now and how monstrously important. It was to win this game no matter how they had to win it if they had to win this game because of a two thousand nineteen version of Tuck rule then fine falling to four and five with the Patriots and seahawks up next presented a real danger of the eagles falling four and seven before they're easy stretch of games is to finish up the season. So that takes you very dark road that takes you down a nine and seven eight an eight type of road now with five and four record attendance. Six records seems pretty likely even eleven and five is in play if they split their two games against the Patriots and Seahawks and beat the cowboys in week. Sixteen and that cowboys game in week sixteen gene is likely going to determine whether or not this team goes to the playoffs because as of right now even with a five and four record the eagles are the nine seed in the NFC. If if the season ended today the eagles would not be in the playoffs. Dallas ahead of their game Monday night against the giants has the slight lead in the division Obviously if the cowboys lose in the eagles jump up into first place in the NFC east and all of a sudden they're standing is much brighter but if the cowboys beat the giants as expected the eagles still remain a half game behind the cowboys in the NFC east. The seahawks and Vikings are both six and three so they have the five and the six seed The last two wild card spots and the Vikings of course hold the Tiebreaker Acre over the eagles. So filthy finished with a better record than the Vikings and that's why the Seattle game of these two games coming up after the bye. That's why the Seattle game means more than the Patriots game. I know we would all be jacked up if the eagles went out and beat New England the Sunday after the bye. But if I have to if I have to choose which of these two games to win you want to choose Seattle because right now they are ahead of the. I mean if the Eagles and seahawks are are both battling for wild card spots and they finished with the same record the eagles I would hold the tiebreaker over them if they win and of course vice versa so you need to finish with a better record than Seattle if you end up losing that game and if you lose that game to the seahawks the odds did you finish with a better record than them are astronomically low so the rams and panthers are also both ahead of the eagles A HALF A game ahead at five and three and the eagles are half a game ahead of the lions who are three four and one. So you're looking at potential season in which the Eagles could win ten games James and don't make the playoffs. They have to win their division given the strength of the NFC at the moment they could be ten and six a better record than last year and missed. It's the playoffs. That's what happened in chip Kelly second season with the team. They went ten and six. Heck what was it. Back in. Nineteen ninety-one Eagles went eleven and five and miss the playoffs. It happens so this was a really good victory just in that it was victory moving forward thing number two. The reason most eagles fans do not feel great. Great after this game is that the offense is a problem specifically the wide receivers are a problem and I don't know that there is a solution out there. Take a look at these numbers hours from the last six games brandon. League tweeted these out on Monday morning. Nelson Aguilar over the last Six Games three hundred sixty four snaps. Just fourteen receptions one hundred fourteen yards no touchdowns in a fumble and he had a chance at another deep ball on Sunday afternoon and just does not want any part of contact cannot handle any part of contact. DOC with defensive back can't fight through contact can't go up and get the ball. Not only is he better at tracking them when he's open. He has absolutely no fight in him when he goes up for a pass. Todd Pinkston who eight hundred forty pounds soaking wet had more of an ability to go up and contestable amongst contact not a lot more but a little bit more. Alshon Jeffery. What has happened? alshon Jeffery three hundred fifty two snaps just twenty nine catches over the last six weeks. Three hundred four yards two touchdowns downs at ten point five average. He's there number one. This is not acceptable. Three huge drops on Sunday afternoon. He finally holding a huge third down pass on the final drive the game which was just a thing of beauty that the eagles put together. But Jeffery has to help out more with Sean Jackson on the sideline Mac Holland's of course as we know is a non factor. Now still one catch in his last six games. Jj are the whiteside. I think-i Eddie. I think he was on the field for thirteen percent of the snaps yesterday. which is the most of the field? He's seen seen in the last month and a half but still no catches no yards no touchdowns over the last. Six Games to Sean Jackson. Four snaps one catch five yards over the last six games. The Sean Jackson News. Not Great. And Sean Jeffrey looking dead. The extension to him was a brutal idea as has been discussed by by many many others folks. If you you start to hear yourself criticized Carson Wentz and he didn't have an aces game on Sunday he missed some throws but if you are pointing the finger at Carson Wentz as the reason this this offense is not moving the ball if you think nick foles was gonNA come in here and do any better than Carson Wentz is doing. You're delusional. You need to stop that thought DOC bubble before it forms and really the way. This team is going to have to move the balls the way they did in two thousand three tons of screens and running the ball. Which is what you've seen the last a couple of weeks? The screen game getting going has helped out tremendously that screen to got it in. The final drive was unbelievable. The swing pass to sanders was not a screen but throwing throwing the ball to sanders out of the backfield using the tight ends and running the ball. That's how the two thousand and three Eagles went twelve and four now understanding. It's more of a passing league than it was in two thousand and three Andy Reid and his west coast. Offense was always predicated on passing the ball. He always wanted a sixty five thirty five pass run ratio but that season he had James Thrash Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell all of whom massively underproduced thrash led the team with forty nine catches and five hundred fifty eight yards Pinkston. I had thirty six and five seventy five and Pinkston was at least a deep threat. The Eagles don't even have a Pinkston right now. Freddie Mitchell thirty five and four ninety eight they combined for five touchdowns downs on the season. But you had a three headed combination of Westbrook buckhalter induce daily in two thousand. Three all those guys more than four hundred sixty yards Westbrook had six hundred hundred thirteen yards on the ground but also had a bunch of yards receiving as well I think he claimed came close to a thousand yards in total total yardage. It's a different league now. But that's the formula Samuela at the moment with the wide receivers playing as terribly as the are so. Obviously the question is is there help available out there. Is there anything. The Eagles can do to improve things because because they didn't do anything at the trade deadline and Robbie Anderson for a second round pick would have been a bad idea but they didn't do anything the price type for Emmanuel Sanders was probably more than the eagles felt felt comfortable paying. But they didn't make a play for for Josh Gordon and I'm sure they had their reasons. But now you're looking at these potential free agents Michael Crabtree who is thirty two and was cut cut by the cardinals. After two games this season Dez Bryant. who hadn't present played in a year because of an Achilles injury with with New Orleans? Last year there's Kelvin. Benjamin who's just twenty eight but was terribly unproductive for Buffalo Kansas City last year Martavis Bryant is suspended indefinitely by the NFL for substance abuse issues so the Eagles didn't make a play for Josh Gordon. It's hard to see why they would want a guy like Bryant. Pierre Garcia is more. Wash Than Sean. Jeffrey is Mike. Wallace is that even an option is that really an option. Maybe maybe some more realistic options include guys like Jj Nelson who was a speed guy. who was cut by the raiders earlier this year? But why would the raiders of cut him yet four catches for thirty six yards and a touchdown on into games Jordan. Mathews out there. He was cut by the forty niners. Recently would require the least integration out of any of the receivers out on the street and is loved by whence I wouldn't be at all L. surprised if that happens then if somebody from the preseason mark and might mark and Michelle who was a food was affected. But there's a reason the eagles didn't bring him back and haven't had him on the roster oster and for those of you asking about Antonio Brown not a chance not worth it not happening. The guy that makes the most sense is is frankly Jordan. Mathews Athas at this point. Although I would be intrigued by Michael Crabtree I would be intrigued by Jj Nelson but you know. None of these guys are going to solve the problem. I don't think third thing. The Eagles secondary shutdown elite receiver. How about that after week after week? After Week of elite receivers torching the Eagles Defence Defense Alan Robinson caught just one ball for six yards remember. He caught ten balls for one hundred. Forty three yards and a touchdown in the wildcard round last year but with mills in Darby out as the starters of Auntie maddox back in the slot result. Douglas as the Fourth Corner Sidney Jones a healthy scratch. Clearly they don't need him with the way it's going right now and I don't know what the future of Sydney Joneses but it is not looking good for him. I just man. This feels like a second round pick. That's just going to get thrown away and yes. Mitchell trubisky is awful. They need to bench him. But with Alan Robinson we've seen bad quarterbacks tortured eagles with good wide receivers this year and yeah the eagles. The Eagles secondary gave up a couple of big. Plays late Tyler Gabriel had had a big play on the Eagles Secondary Malcolm Jenkins once again not covering his assignment in the deep middle of the field but the Eagles defense stifled a bears team. Basically all day long they held him to fourteen points. The defense is I think trending upward. They've played Josh Allen. And Mitch Trubisky. The last couple of weeks I get it but we've seen this team struggle to get off the field against mediocre offenses. What this team needs to do is get a little bit better in the red zone? Turn some of these touchdowns sounds into field goals. which is something that Jim that gym shorts defense is used to do? All the time used to pride themselves in they'd let you get inside the twenty five inside the twenty but they'd hold you to feel field goals lately. That hasn't been happening as much. Obviously things get much tougher after the bye for a couple of weeks anyway with Tom. Brady and Russell Wilson coming going to town. Well let's head down to the podium. We'll hear from Doug Peterson and Carson Wentz with their Sunday. News conferences after the game. And then we'll we'll hear from Doug Peterson and his Monday afternoon. News Conference as well baseball. Truly it is awful. I'm phillies writer. Justin clue join me every week. 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That coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. or in your favorite podcast APP. We didn't like how we played in the The cowboy game just wasn't wasn't it a Hobie expected isn't and and just you know we need to look down the road to look past the next opponent. Obviously but but we knew we knew You know a tough road schedule right. There are three games in a row and and But we looked up to me said. Hey we whether that storm we got a couple of three games here on the at home and we just take it one time honestly and we get guys healthy get guys back offensively and defensively and and see we can give you still got a lot of trust. I still have a lot of faith and trust in the coaches and players and we were fortunate to get these last two. The coming out was at the plant. Also plan to Sean will. The plan was to play him. Obviously so we're GONNA. We'll have some more testing done in the morning. I've probably better update on him but the plan was to was to play them entire himself. I just precautionary right now. We'll get some more testing on find out tomorrow to tell us his own into the by. Aw I thing I told him. was you know this is really a a really good team win today. all three phases. We saw it on offense. We saw it on defense. Of course special. All teams are at the end and So a great great team win away to finish out of you know the first you know nine games versus in any way and into this by but more importantly I just challenged the team now with with some time off you know for everybody to really soul searched dig deep in a comeback back in a in a in a frame of mind. That's ready to to continue what we've what we SORTA started here in the last couple of weeks and Just a challenge in that way you know to think about how we want the second half the season to look to look But I was really proud of the guys for for battling today is. It's a good football team. Bears are good team. They're well coached at great players players in our guys on their team. Adam has been all throughout the season in your new. Are you know I I just What I see with this football team kind of what we've done what we've gone through some the adversity? We've been faced with with injury and all the all the nitpicking here there on the outside from the media. Whatever is this team? This team finds a way to stick together and to to battle and You saw it again today and and I know the type of guys that we have in this guys you know I can trust my offensive line. I can trust my quarterback. I can put it in their hands. I can trust you. Know the guys on the perimeter our defense or defensive line getting healthy and added some some talent there. I just things are starting to come for us. You know and We just gotTa continue to trust our process Then and continued to build grow. And you know just take a wanted to one game the time and and You know see what happens clever with players only Jason Licht miles coming through trust that process by while the Light Foundation. Natural is a knock on effect person. Chris guys well obviously you know. That's that's a great thing to accomplish in this league. You know as something that we can we can look back. Can we can sort of draw our strength sometimes from that journey and what we went through you know that year we were faced with adversity late in the season that year as well the last two years and and kind of kind of that. Same Way the beginning of the season but you you constantly for me. It's about you know speaking the same language in talking the same same language to the team in in being transparent with the guys and being honest with the guys and you know bring a new guys over there to free agents whether draft picks and then our culture just sorta surrounds those those guys in the nearby and they help us continue to grow and and win games like today and because it's not easy to win in this league and I think think sometimes people think it is just can line up and go play and is not It's not easy and it's not easy to coach in this league and it's it's hard but but just being able to buy into what. We're what we're all about Has Been Been attributing the credit to the players that we brought in and the ones that are that have been there. The offense at second reading physically able to drive away the games all that long. Basically I mean we talk about that all the time we talk about our four minute offense in you know. We really weren't informative mode. But we're in in that mode. Where off enough offensively we Kinda Kinda sputtered? There in the second. Half a little bit you. We have some opportunity and you know. We didn't capitalize but for them to kind of take it upon their shoulders to the the defense was was fighting a battle and in doing their part and The office needed to go and it was time for them to go in and Again it goes back to so you know trust in the players trust in the guise of front trust in our quarterback putting our guys in position to make plays and they did that. and IT'S A it's a credit will go down on. Obviously you know. Take that field goal and and then get the get the ball on a kick off but just a great for often raining on on us or held her age approach there. We didn't have to get real creative. Decided to find. Find the right play. And that's not easy. Either you know but Mike Mike Roma Coordinator did a great job. We agree communication during the game. So she late in the game off Augie me. Some ideas game is suggest some suggestions to get to and Obviously they were. They were pleased that we went to and worked. And so I give him a lot of credit in that situation To really help in helping me out and You know finding the right play in again guys guys made plays for us and we needed needed out at the end. All era. Well we felt like that obviously And there were chances you know. Obviously the rush in after Carson and all that and just take advantage of that and use a tight end screen in that situation relation and Gosh who disagreed. Play well block. I think you know we. We got one guy one guy off the off of Dallas there and he he was able eh take it make first down but again well executed play credit. The is a breakout Ambert. When it you in this match up what was what was Carson allowed to focus on in August? The Baltimore was actually big. Part of our offense is as we all know you know. I don't know if it's necessarily breakout game. But he definitely was targeted a little bit more in this game and and rightfully so. He's he's a guy that can woah. When you when you when you throw him the ball he can eat and catch it in and he did a great job today and I think it was just a credit to the obviously to Carson to find him He ran he. He ran really good routes today. Tough Physical made some contested catches. That's WHO's Acuras and good incorporate now gets new scouting sort of backwards of are there things still mystified a little bit about the way. The season's gone so far that you wanted to get into a little bit accurate yes was. Are you ready. Yeah I mean I mean obviously we we we do. We do our standard self Self Evaluation Self scouting and we will look at bullying at third downs. We'll look at red zone We'll look at how we start games. I gotTa look at all of that. I'll even look how practice than if that need to make any changes in practice in different things that way and it's more so about the situations and how we're using guys and then I am breaking all that down so we can not have a lot of tendencies moving forward wing. Hannah not not start over but at the same time Try not out to give our opponents in the advantage plan a lot of well Defense plays a lot of one high defense and You know that's that's part of gyms gyms background in his Mo You know we definitely wanted to. I felt like we get after. Get after him a little bit of pressure with our defensive line which which we did early in this game and play a little bit more man to man and and just just make things harder order when you can do that I think it's a carry over from from last week on the bills game. Our defense did that And and it is a credit to the D. line Putting putting pressure with our four and then some of the blitz packages being able to get home and disruption timing up tasker civilian urban a game. where you're ecotank yards? I don't think so. They played well today. They played welby minus a couple of explosive. Plays second half. They played really well when you swing acid blocker spilling eleven responsibilities. I want you guys seem to have hers. I mean they were playing phone coverage In Miles Chippenham helping chipped shipped the end in that had a flat route and I just saw them. Kinda give really deepen trying to play fast. Get it to him and he made a great play. Secondly enroll eight. It is huge. It's what we are recipe knows what we WANNA do and finish games like that Obviously there and you you know third quarter a little bit we kind of got a little stagnant stuff but You know we stayed with it. We stayed with grinded out picked up a bunch of key third downs and move the ball late in the game and that was used. I I yell at tested. Hardest Heart Zaman us out there a little bit but you know it was. It was a spark when he was you know regardless of what he was doing so You know hopefully he'll be fine in getting back out cynical attitude Ashley storm going right back come right back to you. Know it's it's part of it's part of the game making steaks and Nothing but confidence in him when when he does. I do that that I'm GONNA come right back to him much like we did on third down later in the game you made a great play on. The call has great. Obviously Oh you know obviously it worked out great and in Dallas to tremendous job of create separation as Kinda back. They're just trying to find the lane to get the ball and The first one was was huge for us. Listen came up Came up in that situation a hundred or so hard to say exactly why you know I think the action was actors is always really solid. Really strong you know some weeks. It just shows up out there more than others. But when he's there when he's when he's at called upon not the confidence in every single time and You know just kind of the way they were playing defensively kind of led us to him a little bit more and you know. He was the primary primarily oftentimes but You know it worked. It worked out really well for US and he Mitzvah. Replace Louis. Evaluate yourself after gaining this. How much weight do you put on on your performance in that final? Drive the fact that you guys were able to the ball when he did it. If you don't Mike Disney game you step back and say I did what I'm supposed to do when supposed to do it. I mean has a very deep question there. There's levels to that but You know coming out of the game you just WanNa just critique everything throws I left out there early in the game late in game plays we left out. There is an offense and so but but at the end of the day being able to sustain that drive. And that's that's what we have to do that so good. Football teams could often have to stay on the field convert grind the clock we did and and that was a big outflows. Now there's difference or slowly thought process as an Dow Horse again. It's kind of neither here nor there you know it's just based upon what the defense give me with what they're showing and also out of respect for the past pressures that they have normal not wanting to stand back there and hold ball day Get it out to our playmaker. So if it's miles in flat on third and thirteen. That's we're GonNa do you know he was able to make play and This is Kinda How this offense is we wanNA play bass on? Read fast guys are playing fast giving this a little bit. What was the message that Alaska to stay together? Stay together and just finish the game you know at the end of the day like you said we had a little dry spell there. We you know didn't capitalize on third downs in San Field and Put our defense in some spots a couple times and then they stepped up made some plays and But it was just a stay together. You know we. We had those long sustained drives early in the game We basically said hey we need one more of these one more of those good on score and we you know we didn't score but we got the field goal in kind of sealed to do we the big question. I just say this third downs. Obviously being able to stay on the field on whatever however we did Onto stanfield on this. They're downstairs force US now. Where do you think the team is? Apparently where you were a couple of weeks ago coming out of Dallas regards to say. Hey let's get to the break. Maybe when a couple of games has coca teams yes. We weren't feel where you are. Yeah I mean I think we all feel feel good about about where we're at Noah again. There's there's things the last two weeks we've left out there for sure but to be able to go against two good football teams Come Away with win. Defense defense playing great offensively sealing the deal late in the game on both these last. Two weeks I think gives us law confidence going into the bye week and You know whether the storm of you know those couple losses and everything going on and everyone stayed together and you know it's been I've really liked to have seen from everybody and you know we're confidence going for four in life often fever playoffs. Yeah I mean we just got a bill stanfield early in the game. A couple of third downs didn't execute late in the game. Third Quarter Um same thing. Yeah we got to be able to San the field convert you know WANNA be able to create some big plays again And I think we'll just keep getting better that miles of Not just the team. So how do you see yeah. I'm he's been great. I can't say enough. You know really good things about about him and really all the running backs as you know Jordan Howard him. You know it's nice to get back out there But just the way. He's coming as a rookie just willing to learn willing to learn. We've asked a lot of him from obviously running the ball catching backfield pickup protections Put a lot on his plate and he's really handled everything well and been able to make a lot of splash. Plays a lot of big replace for it for this offense and going a little bit of your offensive line in how they were able to contain Khalil. Mack especially some really pat rushers and how they were able to contain those hats off to our line. That's you know last week as well Being able to just establish the run game in today ah both in the passing game on the ground Those guys are moving guys. Know moving guys give me time and they play great. That's an impressive front that they had to go up against with a lot of playmakers. They handled it really well. Aware smell. Yeah I mean. I don't fully know why they're out. I just I see who's in the huddle with me you know and we don't have time to to think or worry we just we just play. Aw You guys are just kinda running their fill in. And we're making place you know and That's the tough part of football but does a good job stepping up you guys have. Are you better offense especially without you know without a doubt I mean I think every I think every team in the NFL would say they're they're better team and able to establish the ground game. You know I think that's just The recipe you know to to open up the passing play action the bootlegs all of that judge in like I said earlier. It's off to our big is a front for for getting that going on which just helped opened up some things about that from a bigger perspective. Thank you how do you feel like you're playing at this point seat. Yeah I mean like I said. There's there's always plays I want back. You know there's always stuff I'm GonNa go watch the taping and kick myself from making a missing missing. You know physically missing the throat All those things but it's Definitely keep cleaning up and just keep building the chemistry with all these guys know. We've got a Lotta guys change out in Just keep building chemistry in But I can definitely play better and I think has offense will just keep you in better until I. Yeah I mean there's there's obviously lots of good stuff on the tape too but like I said we just want to keep you know find ways to stay on the field and make big place And you know I think offensively we can just keep getting better for a little bit but has said after the game and and I think on the on Angela this morning he did feel some discomfort. You know when he was in there so we on for really precautionary cautionary measures. We decided to keep him out evaluate him. We are gathering still some more information on him and and You know obviously this is our by weeks. We're going to get all the information and NC We're at with him. What more information of undergone the US? Yeah just want to get you know. Second third opinions just just Make sure that we're doing right by by him. You know first first and foremost and making sure that everything is. Everything's covered do biking yesterday. You know I mean going into the game. I'm going into his Rehab. What he'd been doing he was really As I had mentioned he'd been busting his tail to back out on the field and He had a really good. Could we could practice you know we. We limited him even practice but when he could do he was feeling good and I have. I have no regrets. Put another. It's still it's still I mean it's it's it's still a little Until until till we gather this information that we're going to get You know I'm not gonNA knock him. You know speculate one way or the other that this conference something it might have to get used to. I think with this injury and with most injuries with players Yeah sometimes you gotta you know just play through it deal with it but at the same time we got to be smart in and do what's right by the players. Well I'm Jay when they've played when with Sean out whoever the third receivers been neither of them have catched since September Why is that well? I think I mentioned last last week. That case that when you're you know the six possibly seven th guy you know in the in the in progression or in the the scheme of things sometimes. It's hard to you know. Get the ball going in that direction. You know we we we go in thinking you know the alshon Shawn's l es in tight ends and backs and stuff like that and we ask a lot of those other other guys too you know in the run game and they do some great things there her. So you know the ball's GonNa find you know usually the open guy and and find the completion that way and we just gotta continue. We need to work case. Doesn't make the offense a little bit more difficult. That place for if one of the guys is maybe not so much of a factor. Not really you know I still think you run your offense in the end You know we start to put our best players on the field at the time. I'm in and You know it's just where we are you know the of That's not for me to answer Sean. Choices your medical staff is how you. You can't answer that question. Well I would say to Sean. You know if he wanted to like Corey for instance corey elected to mom have have stuff done players elect to have stuff done. You know I think ultimately Sean didn't WanNa have you know surgery. It would have happened Rehab and got himself in a position to play so I can't put words in in players mouths or doctors. Here's mouth so that's not my not my position to our looked into you. Were reluctant at all to not him yesterday with an extra week. Three more weeks to heal something. That wasn't a dresser. I mean sitting here today. You kinda go all right. Maybe maybe you should have your second guessing now and and you know we can't work in a business where we got you know we got to play and we got to play with the guys in uniform and again he he he busted his tailed to put himself in a position to help us yesterday again. He just felt discomfort. So we kept mountain where we got good place. Audrey Laundry Dillard. JP did these healthy is still his job. Yeah I think I think. Move Forward Something we'll evaluate this week guy. I've been real impressed with Andrei number. One Gosh yet another good game yesterday. you know with these to pass rushers with Khalil and Leonard Flaming played played. Well I I do think when Jason. JP is healthy and comes back. I still think it's JP's position GP's ready to go. Yes with thug with JJ. Artsy biking was emitting a good size and in the off season Seemed like he was progressing. Well making place at least in that setting. What kind of things do you look but for young player like that? So that tells you whether he's ready for the next step to be involved in the game. I mean I think number one is is the mental side of the offense. How much do they know? What do they what do they you know? How much can they take from the classroom to the to the practice field and then does it translate to the game and then and then what they do in practice You know in in in in young young players cases You know JJ being behind. Behind out Sean. For instance. He's kind of learning. You know from from Alshon you know. He's doing everything right. He's he's practicing hard sometimes. It's just hard to get on the field. Because of that and in one of the things that we like about Jason Versatility the fact that he can play really all all three spots and move them around and so being able to do that obviously allows us to find a position or at least find. You know some snaps for guys like that and I think you know moving forward does something in this. That's kind of what this week is for for us. As a staff on offense is to is to see how we can and we can maximize our our potential that way to Mississippi Jones. Right now at at what you have to get back feels I think. Sydney need Sydney's in great great spot honestly We just had to make a make a decision top decision yesterday. And and he's healthy and and and had to make a decision there but He's a really good spot. He continues to work. He practices well. He plays plays hard when he was in there. You know in the buffalo game and and You know you never Renault. Just sometimes it's to be dependent on game plan. How many how many corners safeties or do you need more receivers whatever it might be to get? You know the the forty six eggs up on game day and but you know he. He's playing with a lot of confidence. he's got that back in and he just needs a good spot. This is the second round draft pick is third season inactive. Also that you agree with that assessment. Let's listen you gotta understand that you know special teams becomes a factor too and right now you know right now. Special teams is probably the the difference. The deciding factor and It just it it just Just so happens that he's he's the Guy Right now. He's one kind of caught in that. Middle class has been more consistent last couple of weeks. Eddie noticed it was consistent with mile. I think he's just he's just each week just learning from the week before you know just just just learning and watching the tape and deuces done a great job of of coaching him up and seeing the things that he can benefit. You know moving forward with and we're just we're finding finding different ways to utilize him. You know Whether it's an empty package or in the backfield with Jordan or you know running routes so I think that consistency is coming from the more he plays in the more he seeing himself on film and making the making making the corrections at the top of the receiver because he goes down to highs and lows of team is algae. You finances you well. I think that's that's the challenge. This week has a staff You know to go back and just assess and reevaluate and and really break down these. I you know these nine games and and really look at it with open eyes. Honestly we're not game plan in this week so we we get a chance to to do that. And and I think I think out of this. We have to find consistency and are especially in our passing. We gotta find common thread there and we gotta to see what has been the breakdown right. Yeah the target an area and then and then okay. Here's our plan to fix it. So these next couple of days will be important unfrosted to make those decisions in and try to be a little more consistent with the cop the Ymca of that Chart Alshon and Nelson vested a lot any game plan for. How would you evaluate the way? They're applying so far. You know I think overall they. They've been they've been good but they have. I would say they haven't been great I think they would. They would echo so that you know. I think Alshon yesterday had some opportunity you know and and You know had had chances in in in a believe he would he would own up to that you how to make some of the catches that he missed yesterday so he he's a professional about it and Nellie the same way I think too that you yeah we just gotTa continue to to work with these guys. I mean you know every week's new week every week new set of challenges and as we put game plans together we we do think about. These guys hasn't been putting them in positions and an end. Look sometimes you get in a game and You know I'm the one calling plays and and sometimes a game kinda steers a different different direction than what you think during the week and and But I think overall these guys are these guys are really have been in a position to help and help help us win. And a lot of confidence in both those guys vote were to go back to look at the left side of your offensive line Andrei Isaac. It's kind of future. What have you seen as they grow together from them? Maybe in a behind the scenes on the field I think. Obviously there's there's you know communications big for for the offensive line Both those guys have really for the for for the three three and a half games. They've been together now really gelled and and and have have kind of been on the same page you know. And there's a lot of communication starts with Kelsey obviously and moves moves moves outward but you see them passing off games you see him you know blocking schemes in different things. Thank you know Combo blocks and all that stuff that it kind of takes some time to develop and you see chemistry with with those two win. And that's obviously as you mentioned you possibly the future there. You know what that left side and Andre is really He's been he's you've been a bright spot for us you know he's been thinking about going for the fourth down at the end of the game instead of taking a field goal and then also why did you. It was fourth in one and probably there. I really thought about going forward in that situation. Then the three points were big to go up eight so let defer again now. What did I mean you? You saw what happened. We had a chance at the end the half and we had the ball we didn't we didn't execute very well. But then we got the balls. Start the second half and scored so potentially really we could have. We could have at least ten points. Hopefully field goal at the end of the half. Didn't pan out that way again. It kind of works out to have extra possession for around on the Sean and not being exactly where we'd like it. Are you anticipating moves as we get at this point. Take something we'll take a look at we gotta take a look at it obviously It's real worth sort of the halfway point lead over a game over the halfway point of our season and we got time. You know this week to make these decisions We'll we'll take a look at it but you know nothing nothing right now. What city? Just why can't what does he whispers things. Most young backs quarters to play a lot of specialties. He he does play easy to more of a backup role on special teams right now and it's something that You know to when when times it comes out you know from college a lot of times starting. DB's even coming out of college. Sometimes they don't play a ton of special teams. You know so I like. Jj Yo jj out of college didn't play Thomas Special Teams. We're trying to get him. Also involved. You know with the special teams in units that way and we gotta continue to work with these guys. I mean it's We ask everybody to You know have a secondary role on the team. Unless of course you're an offensive lineman or you know a starting your corner running back or something like that but we just continue to work with them you know and and and find

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 1)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

37:42 min | 11 months ago

Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 1)

"WHOA that was almost harmonized. We've been rehearsing. He's GonNa say that was came out clean boy that morning morning morning morning's there with the cardinals Jean say when he released Michael Crabtree. Your time is time for him to say goodbye. It's always a you know. Everybody's got to leave the party eventually. Leave on your own terms yeah. You'd like to leave where you get to decide to Nevada. Come too coach WanNa. I WanNa see you all so good. You don't want to come off. It's please now. They'll do you like that. Little Dude look like a Chris type. Yeah serious looked like didn't play no sports. It's an early start Christmas. You know what I'm talking about like. GotTa get him energized energized. Hold on hold on water polo. I was a different shape and size in highschool different person I was that was skinny. I'm not picking on Chris. I know just saying it's just a gun administrator administrator and he comes down and he tells you he first of all he has and if you around a bunch of people you know. I it motions you over in. Everybody's looking at me like this choir real. He's going to be by yourself. He hit you with the coach. WanNa see you just bring your tablet book pre-established Tablet Tuck Day. That's going to bring my tablet was nice guys. I kid you not so this was my second year. We're in the DORMS at Hofstra University so in the dorm she got the common area sure you have all these doors obviously each room all her at about 'cause practice usually usually with Yup. Get up around six thirty I heard about it was about five o'clock. I remember like it was yesterday. All I heard what doc I see I e by being pedophiles like damn they just got Sohar army and he was like damn they got him and then they did get a do over. We'll get to poor Michael crabtree. It's simple. You wonder if the knock on the door isn't gonNA come for case keenum. Maybe not send him home but at least sent him to the bench for a period of time. How let me ask you this. Let's start right here. How far into that did you guys get before you started hopping happen around other channels or went and did something else because that was a by twenty two three at the half that was a dog of football. I think I the first score or the first SAC by Khalil Mack created the first score something and so you just pick six or pick six in there so out at that point. I was like you know a minimum the city in Western up a gate though I just I can't and I figured they would go to Duane Haskins at some point but then also over over time. I realized that's probably not going to happen because when you look at twenty eight points you look at feeding him to these dogs. There's looking to eat some meat and the risk is certainly some meat does bleed against some dogs up by twenty eight may not getting ready to do that to him. No I didn't didn't expect it to happen last night for no other reason than the bears defense is dangerous group. I mean case keenum last night's been. He's been a long time we we will and can Dan go around and around about how valuable or invaluable player he is but case keenum has been around and you expect him to at least be able to get through the night three interceptions three fumbles and just some boneheaded plays. I know that he was under pressure the entire night but entire manure diving over the pile like you're trying to score touchdown at the forty yard line. You're clearly not feeling it. Your best cuts at the moment. I think you know it. It's it's difficult coat when you've never been in that position. Really you know try to understand it but if you've been in that position before which I have in empties come flying at you when you throw the football so imagine when Khalil Mack is coming around the edge and he's coming to get you in some other. Dude is coming around the edges. Awesome is coming to see him in his nightmare. Somebody's coming up the GUT and you're trying to step up and do you know six four three. Oh five and by the time you hit the backfoot. You can't even step into it the riddick because he's already there in you. Notice is getting ready to be a constant in the back of your mind you sitting there walking into the huddle getting the play. Wyckoff you say any yourself damn. If we only had Trent Williams we might be okay. in all of those sorts of things does play in people's minds a lot. They really do when they're out on the field. You think you think people can block out the what I can't block out. Some extra cannot block it out and I'm sure case. Keenum went through that. He's he's like damn. AP's not getting yards the you know the receivers is doing this anatomy and everything is happening and sure he's sitting there saying I'm GonNa get killed out here here. He is here's case keenum explaining the interceptions the three of them that he threw like paying. Maybe get into the fumbles. Let's find out the first one you know I thought trailer in precursor out you know shot him. A little bit probably will get up early in the game just kind of flew on me. A little bit say cheese in a great spot made a play tough deal second one. You know trying to throw deep out route to Paul tough pocket but I mean that's. NFL lifted inside guy made a great play third. One you know running all go trying to trying to earn down the down. The seam and safety read my eyes and made a play in which she talked to the Middle One recycler tough pocket. That's the NFL shirt in other whereas like I was getting. I was running for my life on that one fair enough. I one was just a terrible throw. The third one was just a terrible. Darwin he read my is well. Yeah if you'RE GONNA lose staring down. He's that's where he's going to go. Don't you look to the right and the left that that's something I'm sure they teach you in quarterback one. He you know as bad as case. Keenum was at times though to me if there's an award for worst performance in a comical moment. It's gotTa be Josh Norman and every time he got torched for some reason he popped up and did his hands like you couldn't get one thought. It was incomplete takeaway. I got was this touchdown. Pass interference got hooked but but this goes to show you you in terms of Josh Norman Carolina in that situation away a worked Carolina is what is a system run defense which you could probably probably put a corner out there and they're gonna be fine because they play a lot of cover for a lot of catch technique things like that we in fooled. Them did make him think he was lockdown. That's not that's not a strength. He doesn't have an island. No strength is planning to cover four looking Kim back at the quarterback and no one has protection over the top but for whatever reason the the Raskin's went out on a limb filling like he was a lockdown corner which was soon again that money several years ago. I'm like key idea here. He's a good football player but not what they think he was when they purchased. This is the thing that I will never because what oh you just described makes perfect sense to me. The you were able to watch Josh Norman and Carolina and say okay. He's good at this but he's not good at that. You're able to diagnose it. Of course you can't how how in the world are general managers in coach is not able to do the same thing many as I will never be able to wrap my head around how easily you just describe what he's good at what he's not in and why are you put them in a position to succeed and where you'd put him in a position to fail and yet teams still give guys money to go and try to do something that they're not good at all because one the the coaches or telling the front office people. I can do this. I can get him to do that. You know that's what coaches are doing or the general managers. Don't really know how to evaluate. Talent is soul mini evaluators in this league man. They couldn't evaluate a cat running in circles they you just couldn't to show the people returns with more morning wakeup fun next on the morning show. L Z WAJDA's headphones. We lost him in the studio so we're going to have to we got more information on that is going to be punished for this. You know you could take them with you every day. If you want it a two or then I'll be responsible to take responsibility early responsible individual because limit. My responsibilities put too many responsibilities in your plate things fall off track. What there are issues in the streets. He's up in the helicopter. What are you seeing Ki- little bit of an accident. It's not really a little. It's a thin on the side. It's a gift. The big planets full spill so it's got all sorts of things going on. All lanes are closed. Remember it is in the I six. Oh Five Bang Gabriel freeway South Between Valley Boulevard in the sixty Pomona fact up to oh. This is not Moma Boulevard. I Ramona Boulevard okay background. Ramona shelburne traffic the I did that go south. All main shutdown avocado heights video of industry. If you're trying to get the PICO Rivera enact take the Third Street Valley Boulevard stop throwing things at me invested me up trying to reply no I don't want to you can read science. He's low advocation. Semi one side of the pool spill is backed up or South. Take Profile Valley Boulevard Pomona freeway backed up to Ramona boulevard moment. Remember that Ramon and I'll be back in there thank you one of our more complicated ones wish hiring dark keenum is made possible by the office of Josephus Dohrmann. If you or a loved one is injured in an accident go where the pros go and call Joe Eight six six seven seven seven zero six seventy seven because Jonas. DD being me down. Let's just pull over his neighbor. Why 'cause I got confused that it always harwell getting up to six point five six six six OPA in California is so fucked okay. No it's actually interstate state California Sixty Steve. That's right yeah. California said all right so last night's game was ugly but defense is really really good. I mean Khalil. Mack was all over the place. We saw Danny Trevathan making some big plays. We know that Roquan Smith was making play. They they just the fuller in the secondary very they've got so many dynamic defensive players and I get that the redskins are a bad team and the case keenum on his best. Day is an average quarterback but as I'm watching that I'm thinking I know Mitch. Trubisky is not great but we've seen other teams with great defense is be able to go out there and just ride that defense to a deep playoff run. Get the Super Bowl and whether it's the ravens from year years ago whether it's the eighty five bears Tampa we've seen teams with great defenses that are led by that side of the ball. Can the bears be one. One of those teams or is going to have to do some at some point and he's just incapable of it well. I would say to you when you go and you look at those teams that you mentioned. Give me one even one of teams the Ravens two thousand Ravens they had Jamal Lewis on the office side. They had changed dilfer which is serviceable a professional quarterback who knew what what to do with the football wasn't looking to be the euro wasn't worried about statistics turnaround handed to Jamal. Lewis run the ball here near we'll give it to stokely once or twice will dump the Shannon here and there and I it do. They have that on that side of the ball for Chicago. Where is your Shannon Sharpe. Where where's your Jamal Lewis if you could figure out where the guy is. Where's that stokely? No Gable caught three touchdowns but I mean where's that guy sure it if you if you give me me another team. I could point to whatever they have well. We had pro bowlers and stars offense. We just didn't push the ball down the field. I mean from all start to Michael Copayment to myself to Joe Joe Vicious Keenan mccardell. I mean we had offense skill positions. Overall was just ridiculous. We random mcdaniel on on the offense align. I mean we were it was different different type office but yes brad. Johnson wasn't trying to be Star Brad. Johnson was a professional knew what to do with football. You know who to go to in certain situations. He was a veteran player so when you start to look at those type of teams with those type players you pointed and you say we'll he's as of more of a place to put the ball in our hand. We knew what to do so it's a little bit different in I think Mitch Trubisky hasn't arrived to that point in his career yet. We're earlier yeah. He had a three touchdown night or whatever the case is but we're not gonNA yard passer. You're not going to see him all year long able to manage the situation like he's just not. He's not because he's going to have to get in Green Bay shootout. He's going to have to get into for whatever lack of a better word or shootout with Minnesota because all of a sudden Dowman Cook is doing something special to their defense and he's GonNa. It's GonNa require him to have to score points. The the question you bring up is is a great question. One one because Chicago has a rich history of great defenses to we saw what happened to poor case keenum but statistically right now new England has the best defense defense is always at the beginning. This is different. I mean we're always going to be a bend. Don't break type defense though that's just what they haven't given up this this isn't bending though this is like we're not moving less than two hundred yards a game the only league team team in league rather giving a lesson twenty yards per game and teams only averaging five point seven points against them and who are those teams The New York jets jetsons one day play this year Miami Miami's two plane Taylor's The steelers steelers ego figure watching the game last night in watching the bears offense and tried to interpret Matt Nagy facial expressions the Games. Whenever you're coach looks shocked that your quarterback is in screwing it up? That doesn't seem like a great jumping off point it it was. I was listening to some quotes from him coming in this you know we we we got some stuff done. We're actually able to move the ball a little bit. We had a nice drive towards the end of the second half and win. You seem surprised surprised by the the fact that your offense looks reasonably competent against one of the worst teams in the league. I don't care how good the rest of the guys on the other side of the ball are. You'RE GONNA that'd be down for with five minutes ago and game and you're going to have to make Mitch Trubisky do something and we saw it with Blake Bortles in Jacksonville Jacksonville has put together some really good defenses historically really made me not historically but in the last three or four seasons and yet it always seemed that they were constantly having to come from behind because Blake bortles did something to put them behind and then was incapable incapable of getting back on top where a guy like nick foles or even a guy like mountain men's shoe may be that service will guy that understands and how to manage the situation different than Blake Bortles where Jacksonville if they can ever get Jalen Ramsey out the sickbed and plan full till the day could turn into a pretty decent opponent out of the AFC and when you look at the Chicago bears if they could ever get Mitch trubisky on the same page is saying hey hey we know we drafted you but what happens in the situation is the front office in the head coach or trying to trying to force that number two status or waves the second pick trying to force that number two status on the offense instead of just saying okay. We picked him a number two so what we don't care okay. He's a manager for us. Turnaround handball throw a screen here and there and that's it. You know that that that's all we need you to do. We don't need you to be four thirty three forty three hundred nineteen yards two touchdowns and an interception. That's not what we're asking you to. We're asking you to be you know a UH eighteen to twenty one hundred seventy yards and two touchdowns and zero zero interceptions lead the team into the end zone you look at the NFC two and the bears are a team because of that defense. That's going to be in the mix. They're gonNA make the playoffs because they're not going to give up a ton of points but you look at the other good good teams in the NFC the teams that we would be really surprised not to see in the mix at the end of line. You've Got Dallas. You've got the rams. You've got New Orleans. You've got a team like Green Bay. These are teams teams that are GonNa Score Twenty five points a game that even when the offense isn't really clicking when they're off the clicking there in the thirties and beyond but we even when we've seen the rams for the first three games and they really I haven't looked very good offensively and they've put up twenty five points a game and that they haven't even started to play yet right. You're going to need to have a game with your the bears where you're playing in the mid to the high twenties and I just don't think they can get there in less you get a million turnovers defensive field but I've seen Mitch Laczi but even if you have gotta be able to punch it in from the office. There's a lot of people that get turnovers and they stall well. We just got the ball on the plus forty. What happened well eight yards to feel missed missed field goal? I wanted it to or we gotta holding call. We've got backed up where there was something going on. We got stuffed in tackle for loss. Those things do do come up where you think just because you have a turnover that all of a sudden you're gonNA automatically score. If your offense can push the ball down the field you're GONNA be in trouble uh waking up with keyshawn and his boys. It's kind of like that milk squashing on your cereal in the morning you know Travis Travis the amount of relive breathe. How dare you step on his Raj. I've never seen Raj this passionate about any. The amount of energy is tight about the which which kermit the frog song is famous well. They just it's it's it's John Henson's birthday first of all John Audio who the idea and I wanted to play Kermit the frog and you guys were about to mess it up and had to make it executives ended up part of this is where he kept coming to me obviously because of the voice thinking that perhaps I just knew naturally because we have sooner or selling voices. I know idea what he's talking about. This is the cut you guys connection but what's the song he's famous for any it easy being green right. No say this is it. He's on the pop song. It's Pretty Rainbow Connection. Yeah on the pond and he's got Qatar. Although I think both songs always a frog on his home. We're now is sitting on a log and he's just chilling but he's got to get the band. Joe Covered Snake Paul Rauch so we'll put up a poll Iraj yes yeah. I'm so upset. You guys are missing that you can recall the music video kermit the frog call him John Henson. Yeah hypoc is Jim. It's Jim Birthday cinematography work though yeah what was the seventies Jim Henson's birthday so you think it's an extra water looks real real. I'll just could never get into that about the muppets ready for some contributed limit Trivia reflection upon as he sings. He's being reflective in the song he didn't do the same apology. Thank you do this. This is a this is a memorable music video. Yes you ready hermit. The Frog is the only person that was in sesame street and the muppet show. Oh aw again Christie was questioning. Puppet bucket created both ensign. Chris was questioning my now here's John. I'm not sure on out there. We've been doing this. Show is brought to you by Jaguar Land Rover Newport beach seventy-three toward the Sea Visit Land Rover Newport Beach Dot Com Land Land Rover above and beyond this past weekend was our three year anniversary of this show. That's had some changes along the way that's why we didn't make it a big deal but I've never seen Rosh so passionate about anything Mondays Monday's the muppets kermit and the muppets three years streetcars Twenty Sixteen September twenty first Yup Dave. Go live in infamy. She all right. Dave Roberts is being a nice guy. I can't because I can't come up with any other explanation for these quotes quotes go on here. Here's what he's saying about. Clayton Kershaw dodgers have six games left in the regular season. They'll open with the divisional series with whoever wins the wildcard game with Clayton I feel really good when that bell rings for the postseason. He's going to be locked and loaded for me if he's feeling strong all trust that the results will be there yeah. He's given up some Solo homers but when he needs to limit damage he does that when he needs to make a pitch he does that. Clayton is going to be more than fine. I get it. I get what he's doing. I get what he's saying. I get what he's trying to accomplish but what would be nice if there was some data that supported his hypothesis of Clayton Kershaw. Shaw is going to be fine in the playoffs because he's not his career. Era His career era in Major League baseball is two four five which is extraordinary in his career era in the postseason for his more than double that okay. It's four thirty five. He's under five hundred in his career under under five hundred he loses. More than wins is not always well. I think though Travis though you gotta think of the now versus the longtime ago her when he was pitching in the playoff when you talk about the game that you know two years ago in the world series that he you know kind of surrender render a couple leads he did but you factor everything in and that's where you get those numbers from. I think the skipper you're saying is that he could trust that a veteran guide. I it's pitch for him before has one playoff games and done a good job when the moment has you know for the most part needed to be counted except for he he doesn't pitch well in those moments. I mean we can Clinton Kershaw's a hall of Famer. Clayton Kershaw is arguably the greatest dodger pitcher of all time and they've had a bunch of good ones but the numbers are looking at it the eyeball test no matter how you want to do. He's had some games where he's pigewoman the postseason. It's not like it's never happened but he has a Pale version of his regular season self and here's what's most disturbing this particular regular season is not his best season. He's given up. Eleven are choosing. What does it's twenty eight home. Runs surrendered this Aziz twenty-eight Clayton Kershaw. I know that the numbers are up across the board but he gives up multiple home runs more often is not but they're they're like little home runs ons. You know what I mean. In that case they're single shot similar like mosquito bites to irritate you but I'm not gonNA kill you. He's pitched virtually the the same. Amount of an easy did a year ago. He one hundred sixty innings last year. He's pitched one hundred and seventy. He's given up. Eleven more home runs okay if you're going to focus on the bad stuff travis. We show me the good stuff. I'll pay attention to healthy. He has C- so of I he hasn't been healthy the right so see put some Spec on his name got. You guys got nothing apart. He the annual fundraiser again that pocono dairy ping pong pong pong a new start with a p a very generous guy very generous wrist and and I'm glad that he's raising money for a very worthy cause. He's really good. His pitching winnings mic`ed up. He's really funny. He's a good dude. He's I've seen no evidence to for me to believe that he's anything other than a really nice guy. Have you seen any evidence this year in the playoffs this year at all of him being a bomb no in the playoffs this year because let them start jumping on you jumping all his men he the aim pitch to you who didn't trust more. Kinley or Kershaw sweet. Tea's is what you make it more in. Don't they choose Rosh. Gosh I'M GONNA Trust Kershaw more because if he screws it up he has several more innings to give you guys some runway got a little bit of runway where in League comes in he needs to pitch each to four or five guys you know and then all of a sudden not even four or five really three billion. That's IT L. D. who do I trust more yeah big moment big spot Kinley Kenley anymore. Okay Travis Kershaw for the reasons. That key was saying just because there's a little more room to do it. Kenley comes in with a high wire with no no room of error. I mean it's just I don't trust either. One of them is the short answer and their issues. They're both they're both going to have have to pitch well at the dodgers going to win. The world series not impossible but this idea that Dave Robinson they look. We're good once. I trust him once about why because he's because us you say so. I was one thing that leads me to believe that we're on the right track because he he being Clayton. Kershaw Shaw is ready hope so this is this time really try these sprint on the road on the ten Zach. You're on the morning. Show what's up exact. Hey thanks for taking my call gentlemen. Say Thank you sorry thank you for your awesome. Show happy birthday. You guys have always taken my calls when I called in and I bet for example. I love what you guys do every morning but keep it up. Thank you thank Zack. Thank you very nice of him to say. Thank you happy birthday to you it to us. Happy Birth we should we should do really owe birthday. Though what do you mean does. He just got here here year. Does he get a piece of cake. It gets a cupcake do some work travis finally comes clean on his pitching days with the Rancho raccoons. Mukunda storytime is next on the morning show. Happy Birthday to Ray Charles Leftist us in two thousand and four yup birthday brought to you by Jaguar Land Rover Newport beach seventy three toy deceive is a Land Rover Newport Beach Dot Com Land Rover above and beyond so jam they most of US pretty good get in trouble for stuff like this Yup. I didn't like it. I like it too much only hails L. G. Gentlemen. I don't know if you saw the twitter's. There's a little interview that happiness today that's gone viral. Philadelphia fans describing a horrific situation which building is Bernie. There are people inside and there have no other choice but to literally throw the children are inside of the home out of the top window because they can't get out to to live and there's a good Samaritan who describing when he was there literally catching babies from heaven and as he's talking about this horrific situation. We're has to be emotionally immensely traumatic. He takes a moment to criticize Agar for dropping a couple of passes football August Nelson Aguilar. Yeah I mean it was bad drop. He should have caught it. Do you realize how thug life you have to be to be describing a bourbon which babies are being thrown out a window. You have to catch them and you take a moment to throw some shade and he had to lean to now. He had the Lena. Tell you you work for those who haven't seen it. Let's play the Clip Vicki here with it. Sound like God hanging out the window you know screaming at his kids was in there and things like that so I'll rent a back door was open it was. I ran upstairs. I was greeted with smoke ran back downstairs by that time enough up and ironically being one of my co workers took the ladder off off the trump raise it up and this is the people down our managers wrong beings out the window. We was like incredible but the best part is to look he gives the camera justice pelted here to put this is my dog so I started thinking about memorable fan moments sports sports fan moments so I put together my top ten minutes of memory sports fan moments. Some are good. Some are bad hopefully entertaining come in at number number Tan. The fans cheer Chris Weber's injury well. That's now Chris Webber gets hurt. He comes back with Golden State and then you know him. Analogy got into a blah blah. He goes back to go to stay hearses shoulder and the fans cheer now. That's on par of course with Boeing Andrew Luck for retiring but I think this is a little bit worse because Andrew Luck was walking away having been injured. This is a live action injury that you decided. You know what what's fans. Awful awful awful awful number nine fans throw frozen batteries now whether it's in Philadelphia whether's in Buffalo Hello I've been hit with one. You've been hit with the frozen battery. I was standing next to Brian Cox in Buffalo and I'm just like Bam but the back of my head I'm like like me like me and I'll turn around and just had my home at all yeah had to. That's good ain't right next to you wasn't far you yeah. Basically they sitting on top man. That's you know when you get hit and you turn around all point to do to buffalo well. At least that's a battery number. Eight soccer fan throws pig head out into the field. Yes yes. This is a team. That's not a euphemism that no no literally a pig's league's head was throwing these Rogers people. These are the soccer matches into the stadium you. Ki- like who leaves their house. You got your keys your wallet. Your sunglasses your pig head like why why why are you bringing a pig as the metal detector so right. I mean what does that takes. Okay come through. It's God you're good number. Seven this is a good word Fans Gail Cal ripken junior a twenty ninety two minute ovation when he breaks gehrig's record a twenty two minute. Do you know how long that is a long time. That's a long time to cheer somebody. It is for a record. That's pretty silly for a record that tribes have any respect for I saw respect for it was puffed up and made it was it was detrimental to the team and I always do it was a record that demeans absolutely nothing so you're saying that the eight hundred consecutive games he wasn't good anymore. The last three hundred gays they just can't four five come on man taking a reason take days. The ball all got back our rookie Julia Yeah but he hasn't missed a teen years bid stupid record going sorry twenty two minute made it ovation inspect the fast number six marcus get stabbed how crazy you have to be to love a player so much that you go out and stab their opponent. Stop the opponent L. C. D. member Guenter Parche who was the assailant. That was a sounds like somebody that was. I love to a pig and yet for some reason every time he's mentioned in the story as it was happening. He was referred to as Guenter Parche unemployed lathe operator like I felt the need need to put his employment status in their never made any secrets. You have to be a complete loser. Be Like I last graph kill. Monica stabbed her in the back. The people you know mentally disturbed you think number five the Yankee fans chat chant. Who's WHO's your daddy at Pedro after he hands over the quotes to him. It's a good one. He hands over the quote so he's like going well. They daddy today and it's like. Oh shouldn't have done that that so. Of course WHO's your Daddy. That's pretty good because it was memorable number four Christian Lopez the man who caught Dirk Jesus third three thousand hit returns the ball to Derrick jeeter. Would he get who's your daddy paid for that. Eh gave the ball back now the Yankee Organization did you know I don't need free tickets for the next game some big they give him some layer of compensation popcorn and I don't think batch would have happened had he so they're jeeter's. We're going auction with that thing Ah. Dj He thought was the right thing to do. Good for him good for number three department fans or the Anti Anti Bartman fans or however you want to describe it. I mean anytime you got the fan base that can run the person not a city. It's pretty epic yeah. That's a bad deal. He was not the only one reaching for that ball. At the final echo gained seven the next guy had a blue a double play ball. That would've ended the inning forget about that well. That's not worth buoy. They want to chase this young man out of town number two the malice at the palace now people focusing on the players and that's fine because they're the names that we remember but if you go back and really watch the clip fans fans on one that night starting with the one who thought it was a good idea to take the one guy who's lease mentally stable and throw some could add him to come down from a faint. Yes bad idea bad idea and then you had the fares run onto the court charging player. Jermaine O'Neal do stood right up to him and tried to up to we're. I mean people talk about all those times those bugs you know who the thugs really work. The rich entitled Fan The base of suburban Detroit who was a good idea to run around the court and try to square plano needs. Oh wait for this moment. I have tickets all this town. ooh I finally get a chance to run one of these the national media because they don't really know geography like that thought it was US assistance. We can't afford them seats way. We don't see those seats where you can get to get to the plants. That's not essences. I just feel like it's my journalistic responsibility to mention that Jamaal Tinsley was swinging August panicky favorite part of the whole incident because everybody was dirty damn excalibur he pulled that search for utility and then a number one memorable sports fan moment soccer once again. Rogers people all right see you ready yeah miss stuff but I'm alone well once. I'll tell you this story. Maybe you may go ahead and let in Brazil. This is in Brazil. I remember and twenty thirteen eight. Brazilian referee got into a fight with the player and somehow ended up stabbing the player on the pitch friends and family members of the player reportedly Puerto rushed the field stone the referee to death quartered him and put his head on a stake at the halfway mile at the halfway line. This happened off. They stoned the referee to death decapitated him and vinegar episode of Game of thrones put his head on a state while commute. You left off the quartering part the second time so no really the best part. Is that the rest of them. That's what I was saying. We don't know if there's a best part of it. Is that a real soccer league or is it like just a voter professionals. It was ugly in Brazil. It's not like the implant but for them. It's crazy at an iphone clearly. There's a reason either wire. Referees need knives at the fans. Come Out stone you to death and behead you. I'm gonNA find another soccer. Referee missed a couple. Though you miss two of okay you missed the Philadelphia Eagles born Santa Claus which was which was stupid legendary legendary and you miss the Michael Irvin broke his Nick Nick and they were born here also also. I think you missed too. I shouldn't talk much better. You feel more. This is what I'm talking about.

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SF-SEA NFC Championship, 2013: A Special Sports Rewatchables | The Ringer NFL Show

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"Today's very special crossover episode of the NFL show and the rewatch Ables is brought to you by the ringer podcast network. This week we have several sports rewatch Ables running across the network on Monday, Bill Simmons had Joe house and Chris Ryan and the Bill Simmons podcast take a look back at game. Six of the twenty sixteen NBA Western Conference finals between the Golden State Warriors and Oklahoma City thunder on Thursday, Michael Balbuena Mallory Ruben discussed game six of the twenty eleven World Series between the Texas Rangers and the St Louis cardinals on mobile show fee on Friday. Tune into the masked man show easier. David shoemaker and special guests Zach lender unpacked wrestlemainia thirty. So be sure to check those our every get your pipe. Welcome to the watchable robber Mays joined by Kevin car. Kevin. This is kind of new very new. It's a person we've done I very excited about this. We are doing a special section of sports rewatch special collection of them. We went back and watched in my mind, maybe the most were washable football game of the past ten years or so, but I say that and I've never actually seen the TV version of this game. Which is kinda strange were you in the press, doctor this particular game? I was not there. I was in Denver. Broncos AFC championship game. So I didn't watch this game on TV. I watched it afterward, obviously. But I watched the coaches tape in carpenter for the Super Bowl is quite as watch the. I mean, if you're going to study the game that's how I studied the game. So I have not seen the TV version of the two thousand thirteen NFC championship game between the forty Niners and the Seahawks. And that's what we're going to talk about. How was it for you? It was fun to go back and watch it in that way. But I feel like I really missed out watching it on TV was fun. I've never seen this version of the game before. Yeah. I was there. I've never seen the TV the TV version of the game because I was in the press box. That's why this is the we're doing their watch Ables, but neither of us have ever seen it. I is the watchable. It's the watchable. Yeah. So it was one of the most fun. If not the most fun game I've ever covered Seattle lends itself to that. It's the stadium is in the thick of the city. I remember walking to the stadium from my hotel, and they just. Have a vibe we've talked about this before. But there aren't many cities where the stadium is part of the community like that. You know, you have like FOX bro, which is not really anywhere visit bar Louie near Foxborough. Right. That's what you're kinda. I enjoy watching games there. But just as far as area around it. There's just not a lot there. That's pretty typical most NFL places Miami. You know, it's kind of in the middle of the parking lot stuff Seattle. It was just a big game atmosphere all day. It was just hard to describe. It was one of the most fun. Just from the moment. I woke up on that day the vibe in the city seeing how that game ended. It was one of the best games. I've had the privilege to cover just just taking it all in. And then you have obviously the characters and the coaches and the quarterbacks, and you know, every single person looking back on it now is just so monumentally famous and they weren't necessarily that back. Then I was talking about that in a second. But just go back to CenturyLink for one minute. There's the. The north end of the stadium is wide open. There's that guy we are tower, and there's a set of steps that walk into the open stadium. So there isn't like a section of seats in there. So you kind of feel like you're walking into this huge gate and walking into this place where something really cool is about to happen. And all the times I've ever been there have been for huge games, and it has been pretty darn cool. So I can understand that. But going back to the characters and the people and everybody else the personalities that's why we picked this game. Because this game is of a moment in time in the NFL. This rivalry was the NFL for three or four years stretch if p Carroll versus Jim Harbaugh you have Russell Wilson versus Colin Kaepernick, you have the legion of boom versus this forty Niners defense that I feel in the last five or six years has become underrated Italy. Underrated Navarro Bowman Patrick will no one even talks about your Willis anymore. Patrick willis. I mean, it maybe the best linebacker of his generation Smith Justice Smith was awesome Alden. Smith all that Smith, which that was a. Weird kind of time machine type moment watching this game. But all of those factors, and we'll get into so many of this. And we talk about what age the worst. But it feels like we're so far removed from that time period. Even though the Seahawks are still good. So that's what we want to talk about this. When just because you know. Yes. The beginning of what I started covering the league. And so just this kind of era is really burned into my mind. This one jumped out to me, first and foremost, we were trying to figure out which game we wanted to. I would also say just as far as the makeup of these teams there's a distance from it. And when I mean by that is that the Niners cycles over the Seok cycle is basically over when he just obviously Carol and and and Russell Wilson and Doug Baldwin, and those guys are still there Earl tell us leaving. Yeah. Earl Thomson that that's cycles over you know, our other sort of idea here was maybe the Packers and the Seok senate's attempt to game. The problem is like all of those guys were on the team or coaching the team. I mean, it feels like that game could have happened in September of this year. And with this game. They're just so many people that we don't think about enough. There's so many characters harmless been Michigan for what four years at this point. It was so strange. We'll talk about this later, but to go back and look at the timeline of it all realize this game happened after the twenty thirteen regular season. And the next year was his last year for the with the forty Niners. Well, it's just got. Video. We'll get to that. When we get to what age the worst. What age the worst wasn't that a sliding doors moments? I mean, so many aspects of this game, you think I can't believe it was only five years ago. I can't believe it. Quickly. But this this is how quickly the league changes, man. This is this is why I'm all for don't wanna get into this. Totally like I'm for going all in when you can. Because when you look at the Niners in this game. You would say oh my God. Niners going to be good for the next ten years. Yup. You would have that is one of the hardest things to reconcile about going back and watching this. And then I mean, we haven't even really mentioned just the entire Colin Kaepernick aspect of this. I mean, this is when he was absolutely one of the biggest stars in the NFL one of the most electrified players in the NFL. This is year three of his career but year two of him being the Niners quarterback. I mean, the end of the twenty twelve season is when he really took over as just this force in the playoffs. But even in this moment there's so many plays in this game. Where it's like. Wow. Was he just dynamic? There was a moment in time where this was may be the most exciting quarterback rivalry in football. All right jeeze want to get into winter. Yeah. Let's go categories here. So first and foremost most rewatch -able sequence. I don't think there's that many candidates for this. I'm pretty sure that the sorry receiver like Crabtree. I'm the best corner in the game is number one. And just the runaway winner. Is there anything else that's even in like in the running for this? So the entire fourth quarter is just incredibly rewatch -able. Especially basically the last what seven or eight minutes you get a touchdown from Seattle. Then a fumble by San Francisco a turnover on downs at the one including marshawn Lynch fumble by Seattle which. Yeah that. Back. Colin Kaepernick interception. Then a Seattle field goal. And then the interception. I mean arrive to go to the obviously that was that was a great drive. But the that that end of game sequence, those drives were absolutely. So the most dramatic drives we've seen in the modern NFL. So if I think there's kind of three cat like three candidates, and then come to mind for may one just the last drive by the forty Niners mechanic, make some great throws the throat of Frank gore on four down in order to sustain that drive. Was just wow, I mean that is a really impressive play by him which comes one play after Michael Crabtree has alligator arms because he's terrified of Cam chance that he he did redeem himself. He did get a really on catch later the drive. Yup. But I mean cabaret makes some great plays in that drive to is just the interception in general. They replay it from like six different angles every single time. It's more impressive than the first time. You. I just while this the full extension him coming back after being a little bit out of position. You just kaffir Nic have put six more inches on that throw. Does it get over his hand? The answer's probably. Yes. And then three Richard Sherman. Just go nuts to Erin Andrews by for Toyfur. God Erin Andrews sang who was talking about. You can also cut off the interview the the boots or the truck said you have to go back to the booth because they didn't understand where Richard Sherman was going with that. Yeah. I can understand. Why would be a little bit worried about it? But that moment is just so beautiful going back and rewatching it now who also and also it was one of those things we've talked about this before, but kind of the giftable games shoring. The maybe the minute and a half after that there were just ten things after the interception through were just unbelievable. We should Termine going over to Michael Crabtree to try to shake his hand, which by the way, pats them on the, but I yeah. But which by the way, the sort of end of game handshake is what did you at Tom? Brady a year later. Yeah. We your before wasn't it when he wanted to. I'm talking about when Br after the Malcolm Butler interception. Okay. When at the at the goal line. And so the so Richard Sherman is just too big time handshake guy. We learned that love the choke sign to sue to the forty nine forty hundred Spence. Our ball looked completely. I don't even know despondents not the word. He looked like he he had just been his soul was sucked out of his body. And he was just reacting to something completely different that wasn't happening in front of him. He may have just temporarily died for five minutes, and then way Carol was doing just the Pete Carroll swag Lord thing. Yeah. Pete Carroll was just owning the move. It was fantastic to watch. But we talked about giftable moments. I feel like even though Twitter was around in two thousand thirteen. It's Twitter culture is very different especially as it relates to the NFL right now, we would people have a lot of fun which Harbaugh his sideline antics in this game. We're just on a very Jim Harbaugh level. And I appreciate it. And also, I don't want to spoil some of these categories here. But yes, I would wanna point out that Jim Tom Soula was standing next to him for like half of those reaction shots. We're going to get to him. And so I just couldn't believe how funny it was to not only in the moment. I'm like. Wow. This Jim Harbaugh thing is hill. Areas. But now, it's the Jim Harbaugh freaking out with a pen around his neck and standing next to him is Jim freaking Tom Soule. We will get to Jim Thome. Sue, don't do not worry. The last one. I wanna say for most watchable sequence is the touchdown to curse and everything that transpires in that two minutes is really weird to go back and watch. Because again, we'll discuss this as relates to another category. But you have Stephen how could go out for fifty three or you'll go. He's lates to getting out there. So the Seahawks burn their first time out with thirteen minutes and fifty two seconds left in the fourth quarter. And then Russell Wilson gets Alden. Smith jump off sides for the third time in the game and throws just a fucking dime to Germain curse down the seem for a touchdown. I mean, we're gonna as John les would say, no, we don't have time to unpack all of that. But we do and we're going to some of these other ones. But just everything that happens over that two minutes stretches like, wow. When you consider the implications of it. But as our. Winter here on the best quarter of the game. You know trying to start with this Arbor super like Crabtree. I think asked our winner is the end of that. We're talking about the same thing. I'm just along gating how long so that we laughable sequences, but yes, we're talking about the tip and everything that led to the tip. All right. What's age the best? My literally, it's Frank gore. No. Frank core. This game was five years ago. Frank core average like six yards a carry this year. It was like four point six on how great Pete Carroll still looks because he's age the best while that's those are that's another very good recommendation has an aged today since this game. So Frank O R P Carol have literally aged the best since this game happened. Jim Thome civil is pretty good. So, hey, the mustache solves a lot of was that'll yeah. Frank gore is just the same guy. I kinda like it. Both of them have aged the best, and that's an actual physical aging perspective. May I say that I think one of the things it's age the best is offense of creativity. Because I think that you can watch games from this era, certainly and see a game that doesn't resemble anything that happens now in the NFL. And even though it was the running game. Even though the running game was was featured dominant. And and you know, in the first quarter they were talking about, you know, how mazing is run games aren't. So that's not really discussion happens anymore. Eight hundred twenty nineteen but you look at some of the situations. They put their quarterbacks in, and they were just you can see the wheels turning on the modern though, you could see some of the, you know, the boots some of the obviously the read option stop the spread stuff. I you could see where the game was going when he watched this and that age really, well, especially in comparison to a lot of the games. You can watch them twenty thirteen twenty twelve you're like, wow. This is just I formation bullcrap. That's that's fair. I also think some of the schematic stuff didn't age very well, though. So many. Yes, that's what I mean. A lot of the reactions donations reduction is still in the game, which isn't the dominant force. It was sure how many teams do you see using the pistol regularly in twenty eighteen regular-season NFO game, not many? He should they should approach showed more than they do. But it's out of oak. I think that it's it's sort of the the ground floor of building an offense around your quarterback. And I think that's one of the defining traits of this decade. So I think that it's not necessarily about. Okay. This play is now used everywhere. It's more about these guys had these players and they crushed designing an offense around them. I'm with you on that. But I think in on defense. It's funny because all that cover three stuff that they ran that was the basis of a lot of schematic stuff and team started building their defense that way you don't see that much cover three just outside the numbers pressman coverage essentially on the outside that used to back. They've ran it so often in this game and in this era, and I mean that really has gone away. I mean, you see. So many more teams playing more cover one even the Seahawks transition that. So that was interesting to see my what's age the best though is just the Doug Russell Wilson deduct Baldwin connection. I mean that is just straight from twenty eighteen regular season game. And this is really one of the first times that Doug Baldwin kind of emerges is in this stretch of his career. He's still returning kicks at this. So it was very kind of. All right. You watch that. It's like, well those dudes are just really good together. In Wilson had that run around shutdown field the ball when early in the game. It's like all right. I've seen that many times. And the other one is Vic Fangio's just a scheme. Lord. He was. I was gonna say on bring that up. I mean, we'll we'll get into some more victory NGOs stuff, but you watch this game again. And again, I think that when you look back at this era, and the way we remember it. Everyone's like oh lead you to boom legion. A boom the Seahawks defense was the defining unit from this kind of three or four year stretch nine. Forty niners. Awesome, man. They were. So so good and Fangio was just on fire in this game. Dial up blitzes. Russell Wilson did absolutely nothing through the air for a huge chunk of this. When he wasn't a running around doing it himself. We get to what age the worst. Because I we certainly cast them takes. Okay. First of all the forty Niners franchise. This is their last playoff pets are. So this is their last playoff appearance. Dude, you're watching this game. And this is kind of what I was talking about with the rivalry stuff. If you were watching this game for two and a half quarters and someone came down from space and was like, hey, dude is their last playoff appearance. And you'll be talking about this in twenty nineteen. First of all, you were like there were like, you're working at the ring right up some follow up questions because didn't that didn't exist that didn't exist. But I think the start to think about this. It is almost inconceivable the steps that they made, you know, getting rid of Harbaugh, obviously, bringing Tomasulo bring in letting Trent baake you when the power struggle. Leading chip Kelly kind of go half speed for one season before firing. I think they're in a good spot now with couch, and they'll be fine. But I cannot believe in Washington's game. This is the last time in the playoffs. Yeah. I mean, especially when you look I mean, they outplayed Seattle in so many ways in this game. It was if you look at those two teams playing each other they're interchangeable in terms of which is the most promising franchise of the NFL and the different directions. Come the splintering the happened after this game it's inconceivable, and I will I want to talk a little bit more about that. When we get sound answerable questions because I think there's so many of them as it relates to what happens with the Niners in the next year. After this game happens mine is related to that. It's more or less that Niner Seahawk says the NFL's best rivalry may just it was solidified that was the NFL rivalry at that point. And now, it's do you give a shit about a nine or Seahawks game? No, one cares. But then always app. I mean think about sure I mean think about. Patriots Broncos which a couple of years later, you know, was or the this time as well. You know was the Sunday night. Gotta see a game. Not just happens one or two guys can determine whether rivalry goes or falls. Ravens ravens Steelers is like that bit Bengals Steelers Bengals ravens. I mean. Those those those rivalries have been hot over the past decade and get sort of a moving target as far as that goes beyond the raven St. was still a fun game. That game is still. I know because the both seem to still pretty good. Yes. Alden Smith as a thing. Yeah. H pretty poorly. I mean, he has to Saxon. This game pretty early has other offsides. But you watch that guy in this moments. Like, all right. That's one of the best defensive players in the NFL that goes away, very fast. What I had was Oklahoma. I have the Seahawks front office when it comes to building a line because he gets cl- than crap knocked out of him in this game. And they've still have not figured out. How to not have Russell Wilson get the crap knocked out of him. So he is the crab knocked off of in this game. I'm not putting that on the offense of line there. Wide at this point is actually a lot of scrambling. Now. Making fun of them currency ox? He's running around so much. I mean, this is the peak of all of its the peak as it happens a little bit a couple years later because they need to but him just kind of turning his back to the defense and running in a circle for ten seconds. And then chucking the ball down the field. This is a very prominent time for Russell Wilson doing that in this game. The other one is that there's a moment in the broadcast that Joe buck is talking about how Russell Wilson didn't have enough. Good receivers the season because Sydney rice got hurt and Percy Harvard had a concussion the hawks receiving core. At this moment is Doug Baldwin, golden Tate and Germaine curse. Amazing. The idea that that's not enough has not aged very well, I haven't of receiving take as well about the broadcast. Did you catch were Joe books s that Jim Harbaugh had said earlier in the week or earlier in the month that Michael Crabtree was the greatest catcher of all time? Yes, I. I was going with. Thin like an hour was first of all I mean, obviously within the context of the game that that did not end up being true. But also just when you think about all the receivers who exploded in this era shortly after its Jadran Hopkins exists. It's just a hilarious hilarious take like, Mike. I I would say Michael crabtree's career age really badly after this. Because obviously he had the achilles shortly thereafter. And he was just sorta done after that. Yeah. I mean, Michael Crabtree. You can argue his hands in England Bolden. But Michael crap she wasn't the best receiver on the forty Niners. He was not the best catcher of the ball ever. What a redo in half ass internet research. I just want to throw this one out. I loved it at this moment when this game when this this these playoffs start 2013 playoffs begin. Frank gore had two thousand one hundred eighty seven carries at the end of the regular season. It that moments only thirty other players ever had ever done that that was five years ago. He's still playing. He's still playing right now. He actually pretty damned good this year. That is nuts to me. So I didn't remember this. Maybe I just was busy or whatever. How many there were like viral videos about how bad the refs were? Did you look into this at all? No like there were essentially an I everybody wrote about at the time. So essentially what Niners fans think is that the reps were incompetent, which you know, who just might be abuse going outside the numbers on every. Yeah. And I didn't realize how how upset Niners fans were about this. Because I kind of think that everyone rightly put their attention towards the tip, and they obviously had had a chance to win that game. So I was really surprised. I would also say that the America's team about this Seok team was full of Richard Sherman making fun of cabernet for this game about just throwing another fade to Crabtree. The quote was once against the end of the game thri trying to throw fade to Crabtree. It's like two years in a row your season ends the same way. You think you would learn? Wow, Richard Sherman was really feeling himself at this moment. Which again, we'll get to it's true. If you if you're if you lost the Super Bowl and a fade to Crabtree. And it's twenty two seconds left in the game. I'm not sure I'm going fade Crabtree. Again, staying on that moment. Erin Andrews loved the Richard Sherman moment, she's talking about it later. It was it was very into the idea that it was a real reaction from someone in a huge moment. So she was I think that people were wondering if that's something where you want that to happen. And she was vehemently said, yes, I don't think that enough of America knew who were trim was at that moment, Nicole lockable off guard. I think that obviously you and I am he was one of the top Cornerbacks in football. But don't think he was like everyone in America knew who he was famous and this was a launch point for him. He is. Is after this moment, he is just remarkably famous, and I think that it's it's one of the funniest and most fun NFL moments of the decade. So let's do this now then because this ties in well apex mountain. Oh, yes. For Richard Sherman. Correct. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think for him. This is the most famous he ever would have been was at this moment. This is the best. He ever was a player was probably the twenty thirteen season. And this is just the epitome of his career. I mean, this is the high point of who he was which is literally what apex mountain is. Okay. I don't know if it is for anybody else though. I have some candidates. Okay. The NFL running game. Sure and Seattle crowd. Well, the NFL running game in the modern era. No, I obviously like, you know, they're not Earl Campbell died just in this century. Maybe and it was the loudest since two thousand seven it was the last chance it was the last hurrah of the running game apex out since the patron. Hits redefined football. I think for the running game to Seattle crowd. Yup. That's a really good one. This was definitely the peak of Wolfman for sure. And then olden Smith as well. I would say I see I wouldn't. I think he was better earlier two thousand eleven two thousand twelve stretch. I was going to say him. It's definitely not for capper. Nick. I feel like he was better in two thousand twelve against the Packers. That was. Yeah. That was at that game on a football level obvious. I mean on a different level his ex came much much later in a cultural relevance level. But on a football. I think it was definitely against the Packers. The previous season down anybody else. That's even in the conversation because for the Seahawks. It can't be for anybody else. Because for the legion of boom, it was the next week against Denver or the next game against Denver for Carol. It's not and other guys on that defense had bigger moments. So I this Sherman and nobody else as relates to players in the Seahawks. It was apex. Mountain for the broadcasters using the phrase new age quarterback. Because we kind of got away from that after maybe this era. We were just like he's a good quarterback. And now, but that hands has talk about a new age quarterback. I think Joe buck said that eleven times. All right greatest would have sliding doors moment. Ooh, it all for me is at the that drive before curse throws or catches the touchdown. Then either several moments in there that you can say one there's a running into the Acar. That's that's mine. So that one is huge Edman kept pointing that out a lot. It was huge moment. Rightfully so treatment was not great in this game. But that definitely was big. We'll get to that. So Chris Maragos hits Andy Lee at two fifty nine left in the third quarter. And he hits the plant leg. Which is roughing. It's roughing the kicker that should be a fifteen yard penalty. It was four th and ten that would give the forty Niners. A first down there up at this moment. They're winning the game by what with the score at that. Ma it's seventeen thirteen seven hundred thirty forty Niners. So you get the ball there. It's a fifteen year old penalty. You would have gotten it at your thirty five. So who the hell knows at the very least you tick off three or four more minutes while you're winning the game. So the Seahawks get the ball. They go down. And we already talked about this sequence. They send how scout for a fifty three yard field goal. He's late to get out there. Carol calls time out they decide not to do it. And then all the Smith jumps offsides. Wilson on that throw. And we have a ballgame. Yeah. I mean, the running slash roughing the kicker is a huge. Sliding doors moment this game. Everything we don't that. Is what sets off the chain reaction that touchdown. Fumbled turnover on downs. Intercepted pass fuel. Go. Intercepted pass Dr sequence without that everything changes. Yeah. I mean, I I don't because so much of the attention is on on the on that fourth quarter sequence. I I would have to give to that. I don't really think there's anything else. I mean, the exception with the exception, obviously of this would happen without that. But the hash gotta field goal before the curse thing. Yes. And the one more that you could make worst case for on. There was a third and one with ten thirty eight left and kapernick it's call for delay of game. And it goes from third and one two third and six and then next play the third six is. When April sacks him and Bennett picks it up and runs until like the ten yard line. Yeah. So that's another big one. I mean, if you get that I out you maintain possession everything else. Hey, I have a question marshawn Lynch is fumble with the fumbled. Handout with. Russell Wilson at the one. Do we think that had anything to do with the head anything to do with a certain play a little bit later in which they did not run the ball from the one yard line? Because I was like this ching that and I was like, wow. I mean, you everyone talks about how marshawn is is automatic at the one and in usually he is, but that was a botched. Handoff. And it almost cost them the game. I think that's I think you're seeing it through the lens of what happened to your later. I don't think that's fair. You think what do you mean? They were twelve months later as p Carroll is making that decision or as whoever's making that decision that ended up having the final call. I think that's in their mind. The fact that they were almost were able to win the game. But they didn't lose the. I'm just I'm just I'm I'm asking questions if they lost. I mean. Well, yeah. I mean if they lost that game they were up twenty to seventeen they were up twenty to seventeen on the one yard line. That would have sealed the game I used to go. I understand. With this. But I'm saying that the teams have long memories. That's all. I'm saying I'm saying it's a possibility. The Seahawks have very long memories. Unfortunately, it's a possibility Dion waiters award for best heat check, the actual answer to this is Richard Sherman because he doesn't do anything else in this game. But I feel like that's it's too easy. We're we've talked about him too much the other candidate. I have is Kam chancellor who over the course of the first three and a half quarters comes up twice. And it's by destroying Vernon Davis coming across the middle. I really this game was reminder how much I love and miss Kam chancellor because that play it's one hundred percent clean. It didn't age poorly because we'd been legal today. Even I mean, he just eviscerated Vernon Davis who is a very large, man. And that's heated the hammer thing after it made me miss him so much and then like two drives later he picks off Colin Kaepernick. Those are his two plays in this game. One of the one of the underrated heat checks in this game was the forty Niners staffer who destroyed Jeremy lane. On the sideline. What a huge from that guy. It was we're gonna post Saleh locie world. Jeremy lane is running for the sideline. And I'm just going to be the guy who does knocks turbulent on his ass. I think it was a player. I think it was injured play. But he was in sweats. He was in sweats. Yes. But it was definitely not somebody in uniform. It wasn't. It wasn't Jim Thome Soula though. It was great. No, it was it was a player in sweats. I'm gonna give it to chancellor because Richard Sherman has one too much stuff in is going to win too much stuff. All right. I think is this. Do we call this the Richard Sherman game? Yeah. This is true. You said the Richard Sherman game would be talking about this game. Right having actual segment that we're getting two hundred. Okay. You're getting ahead of yourself here. So yeah. Those are for me that this is this transitions. Well, if you ask Joe buck, I think he would throw in Qassim Osgood's naming their how good Qassim Osgood was times in this game. I've been around coaches, and especially I've been around coaches who coached Cosima Osgood. He's one of those guys that does so much special team to no one ever talks about it. And the coaches. Just constantly talked about. About you Slater moving at a Kim camera press conference. I was in college and he was talking about how good Qassim Osgood. Good was in San Diego. And I was just like you get around coaches, and they can't stop talking about it. And then you're Joe blocking air production meeting, and you probably heard I mean who was who is the Brazil Brad Seely who was the special teams coach for if it were Brad Seely that he definitely would have been talking about. I don't remember who back then. But whoever it was I mentioned seem eczema one hundred times, and then he just got his brain. I that's one hundred percent how that happened that coaches over praise special teams coach is like nothing you've ever seen. They ungodly loved gunners praise quarterbacks over special teams gunners aces. So while we're on the topic of Joe buck. Let's get to the Tim Carver memorial broadcast team complaint corner might is all related to Troy Aikman. Mine is oh see this game. Was it was a writer to me that sometimes Troy Aikman is like a whole presidents. Color analyst powers down before the game. And the when the game starts at powers backup. And he doesn't he can't react to things. It's all a preprogrammed stuff. Wilson throws that touchdown to curse Troy is just nowhere to be found. He does not mention why was it. Good throw. Or why the decision was made and again reviewing all of this in a post Tony Romo world and my expectations are too so much higher. But Troy just does nothing to add to this game in any way, shape or form. Okay. I'm going off the board here. I want to complain and nitpick at out something Pam all over said. And k b you heard this in the fourth quarter Pam over gives a silent report. And she says, I'm still waiting for the noise. It's not terribly allows right because it's still here the person next to you. I want to unpack right for a second. First of all there have been I don't know have you ever been in a football stadium. I've been in an arena have you ever been in a football stadium where you could not. Here the person next to you. Yes. It has one. No, no, no, no. What I'm saying is it's like if it is it's in Seattle. But what I'm also saying is just by the design of a football stadium. It's that sort of definitely know it can happen in a building a small college arena or like the older under Raina was like that where were a very small arena. So maybe you could not hear the next to you. I think what's the loudest football game. You've ever been to in the NFL is the this one. Oh, it's this one. But you weren't outside for that. The press box inside in Seattle. Yeah. No. I'm just talking about why I was I walk around the concourse. I kind of wasn't outside for the tip. I would say this this the first two quarters for two and a half quarters of the game. This year were really freaking out. But again that was that was indoors. Yes. Noises is your legislating noise when it's indoors, I told you I'm with you. I'm totally with you. But I think this stadium at times the exception. No, I and it was then I was there. I don't it was a very strange silent report. But then here's here's the hammer on this. Okay. So shortly thereafter, Colin, Kaepernick, fumbles. Okay. And Joe and Troy half to go out of their way to praise the crowd because Pam just dunked on the crowd. And so Joe says I think the twelve man had a lot to do with that. It was like a minute after this particular report, you know, it producers like we we have to correct this. We have to make. We have to make somehow Josie Airey strange sideline report is all when the touchdown that marshawn Lynch scored very rarely. Can you tell on TV how loud it gets in a building the roar? When he breaks into the open field. I was like oh my God. That places Rockin. I've mean that's an on TV. It's doesn't always translate. But it absolutely did during this game. So yeah, don't Hammas off base here. I thought it was a bizarre like no one. I don't know. It was I don't know if she thought it would be louder. I mean, obviously she'd been done she. She's a she's a legend. She's done tons of Seattle games. I was that was surprising way. When I heard that. I was like that's weird. I guarantee you. That's not true. All right. Let's get the funniest endgame network promo. Not a ton of great honest here on I was very tight. I completely forgot that. There was a sequel to three hundred called three hundred miss this somehow three hundred rise of an empire. I miss this. That's disappointing. Were you how were you watching it? I was watching on YouTube. Yeah. And I guess I just looked away when that was happening missed Deaton. And did you know there was a three hundred sequel until just now? No use you just you just drop out on me, which I appreciate. Yeah. The I mean, everything kind of eight I mean, there was a chambers. Bay promo which was step two years away that kind of made me chuckle because chambers bay is is not a well thought, of course. So there was that you have see promo. It was Benson Henderson may headline bastard. It's it's it's fine. It does it didn't age. It didn't he was number one contender at that point. It didn't age a funny way. Joe buck saying it's fantasy football for real when discussing the first ever Pro Bowl draft. I thought that was kind of funny, but not funny enough. I needed something better than that. Get hype for halftime with Bruno Mars hot chili peppers wasn't bad. Nope. That was that was pretty good wasn't bad. But it wasn't a one of the things about football. And specifically with with January is that the games January. Which is what we talk about is. They don't really launch like they have American idol and stuff like that. But like October is really funny because when they're launching like, they're really crappy shows. That's why FOX that's why the World Series. If you've seen the super cut of the World Series show, saying, no, I'm sure it's a Mason highly recommended it's just twenty years of Joe buck introducing shows you've just never heard of. To the point. You think it might be fake? We had no good ones. There wasn't. I was finding out. There was a three hundred sequels quite nice. That's pretty good. But it's not a network promo, which is is sad. All right. How does retroactive take you wish you had in the moments? I'm going. This is very on brand. For me. I'm going with Vic Fangio was the real mastermind behind this. Well, that's that's Homer take. But it's true the victory. Absolutely. The most important piece of that forty Niners equation. You only lost this game. I understand that. But it wasn't because the defense was got owned. Hey, I have one I the one thing. I wish I had in the moment. The trans to be true. And I didn't I don't even think I thought this let alone dot publicly. This was the Super Bowl. I mean. So we learned this two weeks later, but these teams were so good that I think that both of them would have beaten the Broncos so save that. Because I I wanna talk about that later. Okay. All right. Best unintentional comedy moment. I in it's easily Jim Tom Stafford at least, Jerry, Tom Soula. It is definitely Jim Tom Soula. So did you note what Troy but said about Jim Tom Soula when he came onto the scream, I don't think I caught that. So let me so the only reason they're talking about Jim Thome Soula. It's the four oh five Mark in the first quarter as you got really really didn't here. So I'm taking my notes here. So he's talking to Carlos Rogers, which makes no sense because these. Just visiting. So so Trey says, Jim we'll talk to anybody. If you if you walk in his area, and he'll entertain you to that is true as note about Jim Tom Soula in that moment, which it does not get any better than that. I need to tell a story. I was in Richmond for for Redskins training camp this year. And I just there's this guy biking and he just yells. Hey, how you doing? And I'm getting into my car, and it's just on the street. Not maybe a block away from from writes in training camps. Jim Thome Soula biking around Richmond. He had a good year. But even Salaam was good. But everything good defensive line coach. Sure. Sure. That's that's what he is. He is a good defensive line coach. I also honorable mention for just Jim Harbaugh sideline antics in general. I mean, there's so much stuff going on when he's talking about the plant leg the jumping on one leg when he's tired trying to get an intentional grounding. He just like bouncing up and down by slamming the ground. It's like, oh man Jim Harbaugh. I just miss. With the NFL Tom different things here. Because my my thing is Jim Thome Soula being next to Jim Harbaugh is Jim Harbaugh has these animated meltdowns because they're combining. You're stacking comedy at that point. I totally also in your also just like in hindsight. It's so funny. The Jim Thompson was in this. And we didn't realize how funny it was at the time. There's no reason there's no way we could have there's no way to produce the no way to predict what happened in. There's no way to predict that they would at that moment would have fired Jim Harbaugh and hired the guy. The Troy Aikman is saying we'll talk to anybody, and he will talk to anybody. He talked to that interview when they did that segment on him after getting the head coaching job and everyone immediately realized how badly the forty Niners screwed up. Oh, goodness gracious. All right. So what's kind of stay on that subject because probably unanswerable questions all of mine have to do with the forty Niners. And what transpired shortly after this, Gabe. Okay. So I would would the forty Niners have beaten the Broncos in the Super Bowl your answer is. Yes, my answer is. Yes. Okay. So that's an answer question to you. If that happens what goes down if the forty Niners win the Super Bowl Jim Harbaugh. Definitely doesn't lose a power struggle to Trent bulky, right? And I I also says that kind of winning is the ultimate ultimate sort of deodorant kind of thing. I think that they at least are able to stick it out and have a good relationship for a couple of more years. We've seen relationships fall apart after Super Bowl wins Jimmy Johnson. Jerry Jones had that it's not like that would cure everything and they wouldn't have a fifteen year run. But I would be at least a two or three a grace period. I also don't know, Jim. Hardball got two zero bowl. Gotcha this game. Okay. And I remember talking to him afterwards. And when when I say afterwards, I mean like March, and he was comparing it to cicis, and he was just saying I feel like we're just rolling up the boulder and then coming back down, and I wonder wasn't long after the Alex Boone give you interviewed a real sports where he was talking about how Jim Harbaugh to the terrible personality for you know, to be around for a number of years. I wonder if Jim our ball just has knowing what we know. Now, I wonder how what the what the upper limit of Jim Harbaugh forty Niner tenure could have been had. He won the SuperBowl. What did it been eight years? He's still coach. I don't think he'd still be the coach. But I think he would have been the coach I think he would have cycle Allender that he wanted to go. Sure, let's do that way. So if that is true and call and Colin Kaepernick wins the Super Bowl that season. What happens to Colin Kaepernick? There's no way that his. Career goes the way that it goes if he wins the Super Bowl two weeks after this game happens, right? No. I he gets the same benefit of the doubt that Jim Harbaugh. Does no argument here, he he gets you know, he he obviously gets the same extension that he got he got a six hundred twenty six million dollar contract. A couple of months after this. But it was sort of a pay as you go, I'll leave structured contract. He doesn't have to deal with Jim Thome. So we'll being's head coach. Yup. He doesn't have to deal with chip Kelly. I think chip Kelly did an okay job with him. But I just everything changes for him. I mean, I think the he has stability does, you know? I would wonder if maybe Greg Roman gets a gets a head coaching job at some point. But I think overall he you know, he'd have Jim Harbaugh. He'd have that offensive staff together. I think he'd be I think the things go very differently if he wins this game. Yeah. Yeah. It's impossible to predict obviously why own on answering questions, but I'm eating. He gets so much more leeway, even as things start to go poorly in you. He's gotta just want a Super Bowl for you two years ago. There's just no way his fate is the what ended up being another thing that age very well, Greg Roman as the offensive coordinator you'd want for your running quarterback considering he just got hired by the ravens in order to play for tomorrow Jackson. I'm withholding comment. But yes, I get it. All right. So what are you saving Greg Roman for the Grady little award, which is the biggest coaching screw up. I wonder who knew I wonder who named the wondering word I wonder who said this along as an extra category after we'd already talked about the ones we were gonna do could be anybody who knows it is Greg Roman because again, I wanna revisit this. If you screw up a fade Michael Crabtree in the Super Bowl, my advice. When those twenty two seconds left is to not throw a fade Michael Crabtree. Please stop. No, more fades. We're done with fades. This is a tough one for me. Because for the most part the decisions in this game weren't bad. No, especially for some very conservative teams. Like historically mean, these were running teams. But there are a lot of correct fourth-down decisions which aged very well and watched them like a hawk the announcers like the fourth down decisions. Ooh. Because if they didn't they were gonna go straight to Tim Carver complaint. I you could say that. I think that those throws in those choices are probably the right answer for the most part. I think that the Seahawks did fine. I mean, it's you could just give it I haven't I have another thing. I want to bring up back of urgency on the final drive was very strange to me. See I don't mind it be Joe buck brought it up, but they had three timeouts and that play was run before the two minute warning twice. They'd twenty two seconds left. I thought they could have had a lot more time to work with. That's fair. I in the moment, I thought the same thing they were on this little yard line twenty two with twenty seconds to go. They to timeouts left. They were date. They were eighteen with twenty two seconds to go and two time outs. Yeah. That's a lot of time. But I'm if you get down to the nine or eight or seven you're not gonna have time to run four place from there. Do you see what I'm saying? I'm saying you're not maximizing the drive the it's probably just not the thing. You're trying to avoid in that spot is running up against the clock. You. Want to be able to run as many as you can get to get into the end zone. So the one that really hurts the sequences it's first and ten from the forties from their own forty seven cabinet ran and then twenty six seconds ticked off the clock. Yeah. There you go, bud. That one's bad. Oh, not. No. This is the really bad one. I'm sorry. Forty four seconds tick off after he completes the past anquan Boldin before they throw to Michael no urgency that one's bad. That's the bad one. That's that's probably the one where you can do that a little bit. So we'll I'll give my Harbaugh then for not someone how you deal with stress. Somebody gets it. All right. I think we already answered this. But who won the game? It's Richard Sherman. Richard sherman. Yeah. Really who else would it possibly be? It's the Richard Sherman game. So he had to have won it. I have a test are usually I did a little more at the Wall Street Journal because I wrote les stories, but I used to ask my mom who she heard of. Because if sure if she had heard of them than they reached a threshold racket bright about them, and sort of write anything other than hey this person exists, right? So we're being at home that spring for week or something. I was like, you know, who Tom Brady is. Yeah. You know Rogers is. Yeah. And so she names like six people. I think he lie Peyton we're we're on there and roll most probably on there. And then she said Richard Sherman. And I was like what are you doing Richard Sherman from this is this is a mild surprise. And she said, I saw the clip I remember the clip and now I know determinist, and so he reached a threshold of fame from this game that I don't think I don't think many players have gotten to in the last decade. What was it like watching this game watching? Russell Wilson this game knowing what you know. Now, I I sort of have on this podcast compared him to Dave Grohl little bit where he was. I thought that he was ACOG a very very good cog in a machine, and then he had to become a focal point when when a lot of people around him went away. And I now I still think he is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. I just view him. I see more talented back. Then even though I love Russell Wilson back. Then I think is really hard to separate the quarterback from the talent around him. And and now knowing what I know about how good Russell Wilson is like damn that's an amazing play. Instead of like, I don't know. I instead of saying no good for Russell Wilson. Good John that many plays in this game. Where you look at it. And you can understand how good Russell Wilson was going to be shovel passes and William when I say show buzz. I mean, like he's scrambling around for like, thirty seconds. Yes. That's what I'm saying. Is there weren't that many plays in this game that pointed to just how good Russell Wilson could be for the reasons that he was ended up being good. If that makes sense right or no just plays within structure and being able to just uncorked deep balls with not having to run around. It wasn't ten seconds. After the sap happens that your main curse throw points to that. But there aren't that many of those in this game. So it was interesting to me to go back and watch. It's like, clearly he's so talented and that throw points to watt, but he's a much different quarterback. Now that he was that. I gotta be honest with you the at the time of the tip. I remember being in the press box because they didn't understand how amazing of a play. That was I'm rubbing in the press box in being slightly disappointed because I felt robbed of a of them being a little closer because eighteen yards out with twenty two seconds is not sort of the it's not such a fifty fifty proposition that you know, you can get really amped for. I think like the four or five yard line was what I was hoping for as far as the dramatic finish. And. We didn't get that. And so when the interception happening Ruben like, oh, that's ending. We get and realize a how iconic everything would become how good that play. Was if first glance because you can really see it from the angle, I was at you just saw you just look very easy tip when I was watching it and yeah. And obviously did not try to be the case. And also the tip. I I don't know how to describe this. It felt live like it hung in the air for like ten seconds. Yeah. And Malcolm Smith looked completely alone in the end zone. And so soon as they tip the pass it was completely obvious to everybody in the stadium, including myself that it was going to be intercepted. And so at first glance, it seemed like there wasn't much of a climax. So for me, it's the opposite thought because the first like ten times I saw were all in slow motion. Yeah. So that's what made it feel like it was in the air for so long. And then watching the play from the TV angle, maybe for the first time ever was like oh man that happened. So quick. It just happens so instantly. It felt so different than the first time. I'd had to process it. That's how I felt the whole thing. It was like I can't believe I've never seen this version of the game. It lives up to every single bit of the hype. I didn't know if I was going to say this. But I'm just going to say I was in the bathroom for this your bankers touch show. Wow. Because it was a it was a fourth down. I was just saying I'm gonna go get a coffee and on the this punt. So Mr. I can understand that I've made similar choices in the past. It was I'm not gonna blame. You know, we're all about honesty and transparency here. So that's it. I'm telling you in the listener that happened. All right. Is that all we got bunny and how how else can you end it? I'm not sure there's any other way that you guys so much for listening to this very special edition of the rewatch Ables, please check out all of the sports. We watch Ables that we're going to do. There's a bunch of them every single one of them is going to be fun as hell I can promise you that. And please come back and check out the ringer NFL show later this week. Hell, yeah.

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The Lightning Round Podcast #170: Baltimore Ravens playoff preview

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The Lightning Round Podcast #170: Baltimore Ravens playoff preview

"On. So they mold. This is the lightning round podcasts with your hosts Garrett sixty and Jamie, voile, go chargers. Go. Welcome everybody to the first ever playoff. Addition of the lightning round podcast. I am gear. Sissy? Edgar sec- on Twitter. Jamie Hoyle is here. Jovial Jamie Hoyle that lightning underscore around. Let's just go ahead and fire off these donations and get right into it. The first donation was from Joseph Alinsky said I'm the guy who asked for the podcast before my flight. I thought you were legends. Then I think you're legend now. No. But seriously love the pied backstory on that the tweeted at us a, hey, I got a board. My flight about an hour. Can give me the podcast. I said sure and we did. So we got that podcast early. Listen to on his flight, and we are now legend. So here's our remembered legends never died. That's good. Thank you Joseph. What we always legends. I thought we were always ready at least our minds, right? 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Good comes from going to J. I've had some bad experiences down there. So. I have to. But I don't know those tacos might be worth it. I'm sure Adrian. I'm sure it'd be worth it to visit with Adrian. But it was not a good one. And I swear not to go back. So. So thank you so much for the three the donated this week, again, don't forget, we're on pay pal were on. Then MO you know, how to get a hold of us were lightning round on both of those. So if you want to donate feel free if not no worries thank you so much for all the support this year and before we're getting his breakdown. Let's just talk about some injury news for the bad. The chargers lost linebacker to take his Brown. Linebacker those kind of merging once Kaiser white went down. He is out for the year with an ankle injury. They will not have to take his Brown for the playoffs. Which means as polite will be the replacement in base packages will of talk about some other replacement and other packages when we get to this preview, but for now no details Brown going into the playoffs. They'll be little short handed in the linebacker group. Also hunter Henry we got a little bit of an update. We'll see how hunter Henry does this week. But we have a little update on the chargers tight end. Yeah. Yeah. So aarc Williams of ESPN wrote an article about it today where he kinda dressed the injury and the expectations that hunter would play. And basically what it comes down to is the chargers apparently very quietly activated the twenty one day. Well, let me back up so the chart so because hunter Henry is on the pup. He has to be activated. They had they they have to add him to the active roster, and he has to be they have a twenty one day period to evaluate him before he can be before he has to be activated or or shut down for the season. They started the twenty one day window on December twenty seventh which means doing some quick math. He has to be activated by January seventh or shut down for the rest of the year. And basically what Eric Williams said was is that there's no guarantee he's going to play while he will is expected to practice with the first team for the first time this week. He's not had a full practice yet. And they are not sure that he's ready to play while Anthony Len did say that he thought that the knee was stable and healthy both he and Tom to Lesko were quoted basically saying were we need to see more from him because he hasn't had a full padded practice yet. And we don't we don't know for sure that he's going to play. So take it for what it's worth it could be that they are being coy. But it sounds to me. Like, maybe things aren't a certain for him to return as we'd all like to think they are. So we'll have to wait and see what happens there. Yeah. There are some reports that one hundred hundred was sprinting before the Denver game in week seventeen. And maybe they are being little tight lipped with the playoffs coming as of today. We don't know if hunter Henry we'll be playing on Sunday against the ravens. So we won't get too much into that. But we'll touch on a little bit. And because this is a playoff podcast, we're gonna do things a little bit different, Jamie. And I went back and watched some more gains from this ravens team. Of course, rewatch the matchup from week sixteen against the chargers, and we both kind of focused on either side of the ball. We're going to talk about the ravens offense. We're both going to give some strengths weaknesses and get some keys to the game. Same defense strength weaknesses. Also the game. After that. We're going to give our prediction for whether we think the chargers will win or lose. And after that, we're going to give you our preferred path the Super Bowl. I know that. Wishful thinking, and I know people are more focused on this wildcard around. But if we were to choose our path Super Bowl for the chargers, we will tell you what we would like for that match up to be. So let's just jump right into Jamie. This is the playoffs. Are you ready? I'm ready. Let's do it. All right. Let's talk about this offense. All right. So let's just go ahead and start I guess with their new star quarterback. Lamar Jackson somebody who covered in detail on the draft process last spring and watching the passing game watching the more Jackson. You know, the ravens work really hard to simplify the passing game for Jackson. They reduce the number of reads for him and trying to create big passing lane. So he doesn't have to fit the ball on the tight windows. Looks to me like Jackson right now is pretty much doing the same thing. He was doing in college. Which is he's going through one two reads most times, the I read is generally something between the hash marks. Maybe a slant or a hitch or something designed to get it out of his hands quickly and pick up five to seven yards and just keep the ball moving and get them ahead of the chains. And looks to me watching him on film that he really needs his look his he really needs the windows to be perfect. He's not putting the ball on the tight windows. He's not taking any chances with the ball. Even on some throws where I thought he has played to make. He's pulling the ball down. He's doubled pumping at times hesitant to throw the ball. And the traffic if his guy isn't wide open with a big window. He's probably not going to throw it. So we'll get keys the game a little bit later. But it seems to me like you wanna make tight windows for him and force him to make uncomfortable decisions were guys aren't wide open. I think you know, watching them throw the ball Jackson, in my opinion is really accurate between the hash marks. He's kind of accurate from the hash marks to the numbers. But the further he gets away from the hash marks the less accurate. He tends to get and his foot work is not great which contend Abro tend to create problems throwing the ball consistently outside the numbers. Particularly driving into the boundaries. And he's really Radic to the boundaries generally missing high. And inside we saw a couple of throws against the chargers in week sixteen where he was trying to throw the ball not necessarily the boundaries. But outside the numbers, and he was leaving the ball inside and short consistently because he just isn't getting his work there. And he's not driving the ball where it needs to go. You see a lot of hitch and slant and swing routes from Michael Crabtree and Willie Snead underneath again. Just trying to get the ball out of Jackson's hands as quickly as possible and a heavy focus on those quick easy. Reads between the numbers between the hashes where they they can just pick up five yards and get the get the ball moving. I think you get a pretty good idea of what they're going to run the ball or pass the ball, depending on which tight ends are on the field. They're generally looking to pass the ball of Mark Andrews is on the field. He's their big play tight end option really their best receiving option at tight end. The ravens liked to get Andrew. Up the scene particularly against linebackers from the slot and uses sized their advantage kinda give Jack Jackson that big target over the middle of the field. And I think they're starting to show some ten some of the same tendencies with hidden Hearst over the last few weeks, but again, easy throws big windows. And as we get into the keys of the game. We'll talk about the importance of tightening those windows down and making things uncomfortable for Jackson. Yeah. You know? They're definitely keeping it simple for Jackson. That's why they're getting almost every tied in they have involved. It's the big windows. It's the middle of the field. They've got Nick boil Mark Andrews Hayden her smacks Williams, trying to get those big bodies open. A lot of the big plays are up to seem. Yeah. He doesn't go to the boundary very often. And he is a guy that has one two reads, and then it's tuck and run type of quarterback. And the chargers did a really good job. But containing Lamar Jackson last time on the ground. He had his lowest total since becoming a starter. Thirteen carries thirty nine yards. A lot of that. Was aided by ager Phillips who was the spy defender from his linebacker spot. We kinda talk about when we reviewed the last matchup. They had we'd sixteen. Now, the details Brown is out. I looked back to that Browns matchup with Baker Mayfield. And they threw out racial Jacobs in that linebacker spot. We might see that with an extra db to kind of keep Hades Polat off the field a little bit more be a little bit of a spy. He was pretty good against Baker. And I think we might see a little bit of that on Sunday. We talked about how they wanna simplify it. If you want to close the windows like Jamie mentioned the point being you want to force the mar- Jackson to throw the ball. We're gonna get in the run game. But if the chargers can put it on the Mars arm. That's a good thing. Maybe a mistaker or will happen because since becoming a starter the mar- Jackson has fumbled at least one time in every single start. We saw one fumble. I guess charters Asia Phillips tackle Lamar for a big loss. But he will turn it over. He's got five touchdowns three. Interceptions since week eleven we became a starter. He hasn't thrown a pick and five straight games. But if you make him throw it a little bit more than he wants to he will be susceptible turnovers. But just since we're talking about Lamar Jackson. They have got to contain him. They have got to stay disciplined. They cannot let him be a rusher not only in design rooms, but as scrambler because like you mentioned having it simple. It's only a couple reads. And if it's not there he's taken off. And we saw some charters for having some troubles bringing them down in the first matchup. They just got to contain him. They did a very good job last time. So keep him in the pocket putting on the mar Jackson's arm and let let the defense take care of it. This is one of those games. And we saw it in the first matchup, and I think it will be even more important in. This matchup is people are going to focus on Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram getting pressure off the edge. And I don't think edge pressure is nearly as important with large accent as interior pressure. It's going to be. Really on guys like Rochelle and Filon and me being and Justin Jones and anybody else they try to line up inside. Maybe he sees some of Joey reducing into three tech. It's going to be on those guys to drive that pocket to drive that interior line back into Jackson's lap. You wanna have very tight very disciplined. Rush angles and rush lanes. You don't wanna give him big gaping holes in the line where he can find open receivers or find running lanes. You wanna make you wanna make him feel the interior pressure because when he feels the interior pressure his eyes drop, and he looks at the he looks at the line instead of down the field. So you can dictate how he's playing as a passer, and you can trap them in the pocket as allusive as he is. If you get that immediate interior pressure. He will pull the ball down and he'll dance and he'll retreat instead of trying to scramble for yards. So we're trying to buy time. And in some cases, he will cost his team yards doing that. So very important to get that into your pressure drive. Those back into his lap and keep him from stepping up in the pocket or keep from creating lanes for him to escape through. Yeah. And a big hot topic. When we're talking about Lamar Jackson draft podcast was his footwork. And how shoddy it was. And when you talk about interior pressure. You see a little of that fallen back to his college days where if you arguing that interior pressure in your at his feet. He's looking down the line and he's trying to take off. Now it bit Cleveland in the ass last week because the gaping hole open and Iran in for a touchdown. But that's when you gotta stay disciplined. That's why you got to have gap integrity. So obviously, you know, creating pressures big deal for the charter defense. But also staying disciplined interior pressure will be a big deal to. So let's talk about this running game because this is a big focus part of their offense as well as talking about these running backs. Yes, they're they're running game is really centered around a lot of movement. A lot of motion up front a lot of pulling guards. They really like to put a lot of bodies in a small area and create as much chaos as possible hoping they can pull somebody out of there gap. Just get that. Little wrinkle of space to have somebody burst through and for a big gain. And that's really what they rely on is they relied on the fact that they're going to be more disciplined than the defense. And that when that crease when that gap presents itself their backs or Lamar or going to find it and get a big gain. And these backs are very good once they get going downhill their heart attack. Oil Edwards is the power back. He's the guy that's going to run over you three. You Dixon can run with power. But he's got a little bit more wiggle. He's a little bit more allusive in tight quarters. He's he's really the big play home run hitter of the backs. And then, of course, Lamar is just electric give him a wrinkle. He could take sixty in the flash of an eye. So you really have to really have to set those hard edges. You have to get interior penetration. You destroying out those runs keep those guys running east west instead of north south and hope that your your team can gang tackle. And chase them down before they cut up field and make a play if. You start drifting out a at a position, you know, kind of reacting to some of the window dressing. They do with the motion with guys like John Brown and the tight ends at times and even Willie Snead if you start reacting to that you're gonna leave your spot, and you're going to give them a crease to run through. So you really have to stay home. You have to be extremely disciplined and trust. What you're reading and make a play when you have a chance you've got to get that first guy on the ground. You can't miss the first tackle, otherwise you're going to get hurt. And we saw early on the run defense struggling for the chargers, especially with Gus Edwards who broke a forty plus yard run on his first carry more of the power back Dixon, more of the elusive back like you mentioned. But this run game is a big priority for this offense. They are a run heavy attack. And you know, we were talking about maybe giving the ball to Lamar Jackson and making him throw a little bit more. I mean selling hardware talking about the game. But big priority. Here is going to be selling hard and stopping this run. And they did a pretty good job. Job the first time around they forced a fumble on Dixon charged. Did Melvin Ingram recovered. So they're going to have to stop the run. They kind of settled down off the first quarter. The run defense did for the chargers, and they'll have to do it again on Sunday. Yeah. I think playing them a second time, and what three weeks is going to be very big for them because they've already seen it. You know, we haven't seen how this run game looks when they play somebody for a second time and to play them for a second time in three weeks. The chargers, I think have the advantage here because they've seen it. They understand what they're trying to do. And they know what they have to stop it. And they made a lot of those adjustments. Like, you mentioned after the first two or three drives. It seemed like they really settled down. They started making clean tackles and getting guys on the ground and getting the ravens behind the chains. So I think it's going to be important that they go back, and they watch that, and they kind of repeat some those adjustments they made, and I think one thing you really wanna pay attention to alluded to it earlier is how. They use their tight ends because they're throwing more often than not to Hayden Hearst and Mark Andrews. But Nick boil is basically like an extra offensive lineman for them. He's on the field a lot. And when he's on the field. They're generally running behind him. And if they've got Boyle and MAC's Williams on the field together, they're probably motioning Williams across the four eight formation or using him as a fullback h back role as a lead blocker and they're running directly behind oil. So those guys really fuel that running game. They're pulling runny Stanley allot. They're pulling the rotating three guys at left guard right now. Alex Lewis, Bradley, bozeman and. Somebody thinks last name is Hearst. I'm blanking on his first name, James Hurst. Yes. Yes. So they're rotating those three at left guard and there they really they run right quite a bit. And when they're doing that, they're usually pulling the left guard and left tackle across the formation. Having Williams lead lead through the whole. And like I said creating those uncomfortable that chaos with maximum bodies in one area trying to find a crease so you really have to watch who's on the field at tight end, and that's really going to tip their hand as to what they're looking to do on the ground. So you've mentioned a couple of wide receivers Brown Crabtree. Snead. Let let's talk about this receiving core. I don't think this is a very good receiving core to be honest with you, you don't think. No, they're not. I don't think it's easy to point to and say, well, they don't they don't pass the ball very often because of the more Jackson as not on the receivers. But look there's not a lot of athleticism in this receiving core. Michael Crabtree is not moving very well anymore. He's not very dangerous. They might throw the occasional jump balled him in the end zone. We saw that two weeks ago. But really he's running slant and hitches easy. Quick patterns or not pushing him down the field at all John Brown is their deep threat from the slot more often than not, but he's not much of a possession receiver. He's not a guy who's gonna make volume catches. He's gonna make a couple of catches. And hope they're big plays down the field and Willie Snead. It seemed like they use him more like a tight end more often the nineties lining up in line as an extra blocker in the running game. And if he's making plays it's generally from the slot on a quick slant or something there's just nothing nothing about this wide receiver core. My opinion. That really threatens you a whole lot. And I feel like the charters matchup really well outside. You know, you start looking at maybe playing a lot of man coverage on the outside. He put Casey Hayward on on like John Brown you go size for size and put Michael Davis on Crabtree. Because you get a little more th- lettuces them in a little more length with Michael Davis and he matched up really well with Crabtree. In the first match up. You broke up jump. All. You're talking about earlier. He sure did he broke up. Yeah. He had a couple of really good reps versus Crabtree. And then I think, you know, obviously king in the slot with whoever's in the slot. Whether it's Braun or Snead or whomever and maybe play a little bit more zone at the second level with with your linebackers and your safeties try to kinda clog, those passing lanes a little bit tighten things up and make things on comfortable for Lamar don't give them those big wide open passing lanes. So I think you're gonna have to mix up your coverages and try to confuse him. But I think the chargers match really well man for man with those receivers I just I don't see much of the threat, and with the exception of Andrews who hurt them in the last game. But I think you can erase him with with Adrian Phillips or during James, I just don't see a match problem with their wide. Receivers tight ends that I'm overly concerned about hurting them deep or chewing chewing up yards. This is not there. I mean, the only thing that would if you want to call it a threat is the speed of John Brown. He and even that I don't think is that big of a deal. This just seems like a I mean, it is it's a bunch of castaway wide receivers. You got John Brown? Who's a former cardinal? He's got seven hundred fifty yards on the year. And that's he's leading receiver will lease need Crabtree. Bolton eclipse seven hundred yards. Neither of them were threat last time against the chargers last time they met the leading receiver was John Brown with two catches for twenty seven yards. So they didn't have any problems on the outside. Like you mentioned the one of the game. The problems is Mark Andrews to catches eighty three yards and the touchdown on that broken play Jalil die. Couldn't bring him down the end, and that was his career high Andrews is only broke fifty yards like five times this year he's gotten some chunk plays. But not a ton. You know, he's no hunter Henry. But like I mentioned earlier in like you're kind of talking about if you want to erase the guy like Andrews. Maybe you do see Ray Sean Jenkins in with details. Brown out. Maybe you see more mashed up on him. You've got Adrian Phillips who's a who's a beautiful matchup for. These titans. So this is a very very good match with the wide receivers. Verse TV's for the chargers. Yeah. I totally agree. And I think you have the depth and length and the athlticism to be able to mix and match against the tight ends and play a little bit zone in the back end and try to confuse the more. I just think you don't want to give these guys space. Oftentimes you see the chargers with their cover three zone. They're backing corners off giving those quick slants up in the middle of the field, hoping the linebackers are going to drop back and break them up. And it's not happening. I think you wanna bring the corners up particularly outside. Bring those guys up on the line of scrimmage, get them right up onto the wide receivers chins post up having get their hands on them. I mean Davis he played really well in Denver and playing better and better and better he gets his hands on somebody. He's a racing them. They're not they're not breaking free when he gets his hands on guys. So he stick him on Crabtree. Haven't beat up Crabtree. Physical with him. You take him out of the game. And I just think I think it's easy match across the. Yeah. Rewatching that game. You know, we're so used to hearing microbreweries name in a positive light when he was with the raiders, and he was almost a net negative because he had that office of passenger fares on a fourth down. Almost gossipy more yards receiving his one big reception came at like the right at the end of the second quarter when they're trying to like eat up some yours to try to kick that really long field goal at the end. But yeah, Crabtree was was nowhere to be seen that game. So this is a really really good matchup for these DB's. And then let's just go ahead and wrap up this Baltimore offensive line. We could talk about the games then. And let's talk about this offense of line. Yeah. This offense of line even other blocking really well in the run game. I don't think this is a particularly talented or good offensive line in my opinion. I kind of talked about a little bit earlier. You know, they've got Ronnie Stanley at left tackle, they're rotating three guys three pretty below average guys at left guard right now between Alex Lewis and. Bradley bozeman and James Hurst their center, Matt Scherzer is also pretty awful. He's been getting picked on quite a bit lately, really Marshall Yanez the best piece in that line. He's very good at right guard. And there I think they're right. Tackle was pretty vulnerable in Orlando Brown junior guy that neither one of us cared for much in the draft. And they took him in the third round. And I think they're vulnerable all up and down that line with the exception of Janda. And I think they have one I think the charters had several good match ups. You know, I think you look at various Filon. He struggled a little bit early in that game in the first game in week sixteen because they had him on the right side of the offense of line, and he was mashed up head to head with Marshall yadda quite a bit and yadda and skirl were double teaming him, and he was struggling but about midway through the second quarter Gus moved into the left side of the offensive line. And he started just eating the left guards lunch. I mean, he was killing them and skirl couldn't block him bozeman and Hearst couldn't block in. It was a nightmare. So I still don't think they have an answer for file on. I think that's a really great matchup. I think the pieces are there for the charges to be able to drive those interior linemen back into into Jackson's lap. Like we talked about. And I think there are some vulnerabilities tackle too. I think even though Stanley's played pretty well. He shows some vulnerability to incite counters, in my opinion, he can beat around the edge both Stanley and Orlando Brown junior in my opinion bay struggle with nickel blitzes you send multiple rushes at them. And they both kind of get confused and they struggle. So I think there are ways to get after Jackson in key situations there by confusing there tackles and sending multiple rushers, but I think this game where you're probably gonna see. More four and five type five-man type pressure packages. Dropping more guys back and trying to confuse Jackson. Yeah. I got a little bit different opinion on the office of line. I think you're right about the interior. I think they're very susceptible in the middle. I don't think the tackle plays. All that bad. I thought Ronnie Stanley set a pretty good year the games we watched. And I thought Landau Brown was much better than expected. I also didn't think he was very good coming out of the draft. So take that for what it's worth. But you know, watching them I didn't think he was all that bad in going back to that game in week sixteen. It didn't seem like they're a ton of pressure coming out. Lamar jackson. I thought their run game was pretty good. I think they get some pretty good push up front. The run game pass blocking. I think there are some weaknesses for shirt on paper. I think there are some really good match ups. Like, you talked about dairies Filon Joey Bosa moment Ingram on either end is obviously a good matchup. I think you're right. I think they do drop a little bit more zone. They rush five. I don't think. Gets too aggressive only because of how slippery Lamar Jackson could be. And you don't want to send too many guys leave too many holes open. So, you know, obviously, this defense of lines got a winner matchups. They got to stay disciplined collapse that pocket we talked about interior pressure. Hopefully, close the walls in on him on Lamar Jackson be it's more. It's more to stay disciplined close walls and get interior pressure than it is send the house and get him quick pressure on the Mark Jackson. So when when we're talking about getting pressure on the Mark Jackson. It's not hey, man, sender when and Dez off the edges because you'll be in trouble, then because he can have his quick read, and he'll be okay. And then you know, if anybody's out of line, then he's gone for twenty plus yard. So it's all about staying disciplined, hopefully closing the walls and on the edges from Bosa Ingram. Filon Crain's interior pressure on Lamar Jackson. Yeah. I agree with that. So let's let's go ahead and talk about some of these keys for the charter defense. All right. Well, I think. Obviously, you know, they're going to be run heavy and they're not looking to put the ball in the air too much. So I think you're looking to have seven eight guys in the box as often as possible we talked about walking the corners up to the line of scrimmage and having man coverage on the outside across the board. You can mix and match a little bit with Andrews take him away Phillips Derwin and maybe a little bit of ratio on Jenkins. I think from a linebacker standpoint. The they use Jenkins quite a bit at linebacker. And it seemed like the even using him as kind of a slot corner at times in Denver, some some interesting with him. So I think we'll probably wind up seeing is some kind of a mix and match with Phillips Jenkins and Polat at times at linebacker. And maybe even seeing some of. New oh Soo at at Sam at times just when they're looking to rush the passer or if they feel like they need to go big because they have multiple tight ends on the field. We talked about jamming receivers creating tight windows in the middle of the field mixing up covered with the linebackers trying to get as many bodies back into those passing lanes as possible. And really I mean, you got to stop the run and it comes down to setting. You gotta stay home. You gotta sit a physical edge and maintain that edge. Got a string the runs out get those guys running east west and then gang tackle. And you gotta make the first tackle you can't miss tackles. We're going to eat you alive. Yeah. No. Of course, stopping the runs gonna be a big deal there run heavy attack. Not only Gus and Dixon. But also Lamar Jackson. We mentioned it got to stay disciplined. We talked about pressure where you hope to create pressure from the edges create some interior pressure. And obviously can't be too aggressive with the blitzes. Gus can if you do stop the run, it's two fold you're taking away their string. Because there are run heavy offense. But you're also making Lamar Jackson throw the ball. And we talked about how they're trying to simplify that offense for the mar. And if you keep it a little complex, and he's got a throat a little bit more often than he needs to or has in the past. He'll be susceptible to some mistakes. You'll you'll get a turnover. He's gonna fumble. He has every game. He started. So created some turnovers will be good. We talked about man on the outside is easy. It's great matchup and having guys like Ray, Sean Adrian Phillips, and then even hateful ARD in the middle of very good rotation. Especially with these three or four tight ends. We're going to run on Sunday. Yeah. Yeah. I totally agree. I think all that makes a lot of sense. And one thing we haven't mentioned, well, you've mentioned that Lamar fumbles. I think if you do get home on the more and you have a chance to make a play. Everybody needs to be ripping it that as you're bringing him down get your hand on the ball. He does not have very large very strong hands. And he does have a tendency to cough up the ball when he gets hit. And sometimes he coughs it up even. When he doesn't get hit. Yes. So a lot of those fumbles are just hands off during those RPO's. They're not even going back and tripping over himself or being tackled. It's he's trying to tuck into Dixon and canton. It doesn't have the strong fans in it fumbles all the time. So yeah, definitely. Yeah. So I think that's the game plan. All right. So Baltimore defense charters are going into Baltimore. This is the NFL's number one defense. The both were allowed the fewest yards and fuse points per game. Let's start up front. We'll talk about this defensive line. They run a three four the middle. It's one of the best run stuffing nose tackles and the game. Brandon Williams big fan of his life. Tim during one of our free agent podcast. But he ended up getting a lot of money. So good things to go. He's major contributor stopping the run. Specially last time against the chargers. The ends Michael Pierce Brenner urban Pearson urban or having excellent seasons. I think pierces probably the front runner for the best man on that line. He's looked really really good. He's been sharp. Most of two thousand eighteen urban got the best Scofield on their last match. Oh, man that was bad and half a sack last time the two met, and it's going to start with those three offense of line really has to have a better showing that was a terrible showing especially from the interior guys. Dan, Feeney, Michael Scofield, even your pro bowler. Mike pouncey, so they're going to have to help out front and they're gonna have to help out in the run game. They're a very good team defending the run two weeks ago. They had no answers up front. They average three point two yours per carry during that game. Gordon had forty one yards on the day. Awesome wasn't part of that group. He'll be there on Sunday. The. Line was getting pushed around, you know, it just seemed like rivers had no time all game. And not only was that there were showing in terms of pressure because rivers was pressured over forty percent of his drawbacks on that game. But the penalties just piled up and they were getting grabby. This is a blitz happy defensive. We'll talk about it. But man every time that offense was starting to get going and converting third down. Okuno got a penalty. Tevi got a penalty. Scofield got a penalty, it just piling up and piling up piling up. It was a very bad day for that offensive line the interior guys on this line are really good. You mentioned worm Lee Williams urban and Pierce Pierce right now. I think is the number six rated defensive tackle on PF. I believe he's playing extremely well Williams. I don't think as far behind. I think Williams's he's the thirty fifth ranked defensive tackle right now. So those guys are all playing pretty well. I think worm Lee is a guy that. If he's on the field you can run at him. He's not nearly the the threat in terms of pushing guys around and clogging lanes is urban and Williams and Pierre Sarr, but I think you have to stay committed to the run you can't give up on the run. The chargers felt really one dimensional in that game. In week sixteen seemed like they just went to that seven step drop. Let's put the push the ball down the field as much as we can. And there was just no commitment to the running game. And even if you're only getting two three or at a time, you still gotta run between the tackles, at least to keep them honest, and at least try to wear them down. So I don't know that the chargers have any answers man for man front for those guys. They're going to have to probably double team and chip and do whatever they can to get creative and keep those keep those guys off rivers. But I think there are more opportunities to run the ball effectively outside against his defense. And there are inside against his defense. I think they're edged guys are good. Good. But not great against the run. And I think there are there are a lot of opportunities on a matchups you could win with those guys running off tackle in particular. Yeah. Yeah. Totally agree. I think they're more pass rushers than they are run stuffers there guys yet, especially with as much as this team blitzes running on the outside and running at them. We'll definitely slow them down. They like the rotate their pass rushers and they were pretty effective. Bring rivers down last times dairy Smith half a sack or second half, actually, Terrell. Suggs, he had a really good hit on rivers on a pass that following incomplete soak. Smith kind of their headliner pass rushers at the Sam got Matt Jude on he's pretty active. He's a pretty good pass rusher as well. He's tied second team. He's got seven sacks. There will linebacker Patrick a one so who had to sex that game at the Mike. They've got the veterans CJ Moseley. He's again got one hundred tackles this year lease the team in that category. Another key cog and. Stop in the run the ravens really disguised their looks. And the charters just didn't have any answers heavy blitzing team. They had stunts twists and that'll line struggle. Keep in the pocket, clean rivers. If they're going to win this game. And I guess we'll get into it. But they have got to keep river's clean. This offense of line has gotta communicate much better than they did last time around. Absolutely. Yeah. And I think one of the things that really hurt. The chargers was they at times the ravens were kicking Jude on Daria Smith inside of the three technique and just letting them tee off on Scofield and Phoenix. And the chargers never like you said they had no answers. They'd never figure out stop that. They lineup Smith and Jude on on the same side, moved one of those guys inside one of them outside and they'd start and twists sometimes they just shoot straight up the gap. They couldn't get hand on them. And if they did it was usually holding. So they've got to figure out how to handle those guys when they're reducing inside when they're playing on the same side of the line, and they have to keep river's clean. But I think a lot of that also comes with keeping them honest. And we'll talk to the game here. But the gotta run off the edge. You gotta run at them. They're going to have to run some draws people here in that they're gonna have to run some draws to keep them honest. They're going to have to run. Some screens slip. Screens tight end screens anything. They can to get the ball out of rivers hands relatively quickly and make them think twice about coming all out on the blitz. And I think also keeping the backs involved in passing the ball down the field, not deep but in that five seven yard range right at the linebackers in space that's going to be important to if they're going to bring those guys make a pay for it throw throw behind him. So they have to do a better job. They have to have a better game plan. They just it just seemed like they weren't prepared in the first game. They had some opportunities to make some plays. I thought early in the game rivers missed a couple throws couple opportunities for big plays. You know, leaving the pocket on even on. The second possession. There were two straight throws where I thought he had good protection. And he had opportunities to make plays. And he fled the pocket when he didn't really need to took one side of the field away and miss an opportunity to make a big play. So he's got to be better. I know he got hit hit hit a lot in that in the last game. And he's been hit a lot in the last few games. Hopefully, it's helping them prepare and they are more prepared for that in the playoffs. Because. They can't win rivers is an upright. Yeah. It's pretty simple. So then moving onto the DB's. This is a pretty talented back end here. Corners are pretty good. At least one of them is Marlin Humphry is really good looks like a rising star, man. He was really really good. He won the ravens two thousand eighteen and VP award for his play this year. I liked what I saw him on the matchup or the last couple of days. We watched of the ravens Brandon car Jimmy Smith. The other two corners cars had a solid issue here for the ravens. He had the interception on that. I play the you talked about from scrimmage Humphry that second pick actually in the end zone at the end of the game riverside to interceptors that game. But you know, car is veteran, isn't that? Good. I think they're very susceptible in the middle of field. We'll talk about that in a little bit on the back end. Of course, serach Weddell, we know all about him. And Tony Jefferson was maybe these star that defense on Sunday. He was. All over the place. I don't know if he was fired up because he was a San Diego kid and grew up watching the chargers, but he was really really good. He had a taco for a loss of pass deflections. He was good. He had a really bad penalty late hit out of bounds on Justin Jackson better than that. He had a real clean game. This db group is pretty good. But that middle of the defense man, this is going to be a spot to attack. They can't run underneath Keno was open those dinks and dunks to Justin Jackson Melvin Gordon rope. An all day making these linebackers covers going to be a big deal because you also help slow down the pass rush to Keenan Allen had five catches fifty eight yards. Justin Jackson, Gordon, had ten receptions for sixty years combined. So that middle field was open. Maybe can chip away in the middle of the field. Take a shot deep later, keep them honest. And we'll talk about the game. I keep wanting to talk about it. But. But yeah, there are some good good talent in this db group. Yeah. I think outside they're in pretty good shape. I think the guy's playing the slot and come on their sub packages of the guys that you really wanna go after tae-bong young has had some issues covering the deep ball in recent weeks. He has a lot of trouble. With those deep intermediate in breaking routes between the numbers between the hash marks. Jimmy Smith is a guy who gets really grabby wants to take him down field. He's been struggling lot this year with those deep routes you watch the Browns game they spread them out. They threw the ball over the top right down the middle of the field. Kind of tried to find that soft spot between the linebackers and the safeties. And it was there all day and they had the Browns at several drops. It probably should have gone for touchdowns that defense got picked on a little bit. They won the game. But they got picked on a little bit. With those deep intermediate routes in the middle of the field. That's something. The chargers are really going to have to try to find a way to hit. And I think they were trying to do that in the first game. And they. Couldn't get enough protection to be able to execute. But I think you wanna find I think this is a matchup game. I mean, all games are matchup games. But this is a huge match of game. I think you want a lot of Keenan Allen versus Tehran's T-Bone young and Jimmy Smith in the slot. I think you want a lot of Melvin Gordon in Austin neck ler versus CJ Moseley and Kenny young in the middle of the field. Mike Williams that times Eric weta was lined up man for man on on Mike Williams in the first matchup and the charters just couldn't get the ball, Mike. So I think you wanna find ways to get Williams matched up versus Weddell and Jefferson in the slot down the field in the middle of the field. And if hunter Henry returns and plays in this game. He's another guy you wanna get matched up in the slot with Weddell in Jefferson and uses size to your advantage in the middle of the field. I think there are pleased to be made behind the linebackers in front of the safeties in the middle of the field against his defense. You just got to keep upright and give them a chance to make the play. Yep. So let's move on to the keys the game. Then and like I mentioned earlier, obviously keeping rivers upright. Like, you mentioned the big deal. They are going to send a lot of guys. And it's going to be important for them to communicate in the interior because they just didn't last time were around. They have a lot. Exotic looks blitzing the front seven what I would like to see the chargers. Pick up the passing game make a little bit quicker because the last time around like we talked about wiz was having Philip rivers seven step drop when the pressure was coming interior offense flying couldn't take care of it. And of course, the outset Tevi Oku, much better. But there was pressure all day and you're asking rivers to take seven steps. How about opening that up? How about a game plan like they did against the Browns. How about running at that rushing attack run right atom like with Myles Garrett? Get the ball out fast on some quick passes. You've got Melman Gordon off the neck, learn volved, equa obvious wasn't there. Last matchup. Get them involved. You run run. The pass rushers. You slow them down. It's going to open up the passing game. If wiz is going to ask rivers to seven step drop their playing rightness to raven strength, and it's going to be a long day again on Sunday. So they can't do that one thing that obviously seems like I don't really say this on this podcast. But they gotta limited turnovers last time they play there's a number one defense, but Baltimore is three league and getting turnovers. They have fourteen on the year the charters had three turnovers two interceptions and the Tonio gates foam ball recovery that tape on young return for touchdown. Even though it wasn't the offensive line's fault. So much on those two interceptions. Because one was under thrown pass. Mike Williams was end endgame to travel, but the they they have got to stop with those turnovers because even those defenses number one, they don't get a lot of turnovers and the chargers just gifted him a bunch last time I like to see the chargers come out of the gate firing because they've been sleepwalking through the first quarter a lot. How you do that? Because Lynn hasn't got them. But maybe with the play offs. He lied to fire little bit. You just got to start fast this time, hopefully because you start fast then you got Lamar Jackson having to throw the ball little bit more because he's got to play catch up and hopefully rivers is thrown another turnover in the first possession again. Or at least I drive this team leans on their running game to this ravens team. So if you do jump out to an early lead your then taking the running game, you're having the mar Jackson throw it. That's a good proposition for the chargers. I just think that if they can communicate and do a little bit better with the offensive line. But haven't whiz helped him out a little bit? With the quick passing game, though is slow it on the pass rush attack. Those linebacker in the middle of field, the slots acceptable. Like you mentioned get those running backs involved in the passing game. Limit the turnovers try to get to an early lead. I mean, those those are my keys in those obviously sound easy and some of may be obvious. But it's not it's not. Not that hard. This isn't that complex as a team. If you get a lead you can pound on them and win. And I think there's a lot of favorable masses for the chargers. And the chargers, quite frankly, had maybe they're worse game all season and nothing went right for him. So if they limit their mistakes a little less than they did last time around I think good chance, I just feel like. You look at the way they played the Raymond's the first time it reminded me. A lot of what happened for the chargers in Kansas City, and in Pittsburgh where everything just went exactly the way they needed to to win those games. And I think that's what happened for the ravens. I don't. I mean their defense played great. I don't think their offense was all that great. You know that you've got to one score game going with three minutes left in that game. Rivers has the ball. You kind of had a feeling he might drive and give them a chance to win that game. And if they're not shooting themselves in the foot, they probably left I dunno at least fourteen points on the field if not more. Yeah. So there are under thrown ball on the first play. He leads Mike little bit that might be touchdown because Jefferson was late getting over there all kinds of plays just came up like an inch afoot short. And if they're another one score game with the ravens again, I don't know that the ravens can win that game again because you got to figure things are going to flip. And the chargers are gonna make one or two of those plays. Got called back during the during the first game. So I don't I don't think this is bad of a match for the chargers as people think it is granted there are some bad matchups up front and that is concerning. But I think the charters can offset those things with a better game plan to some extent. So mikey's. I think the chargers really felt like they tried to beat the ravens at their own game. And that first game there were a lot of twelve twelve twelve man personnel groupings. There are a lot of twenty two men twenty two personnel grouping. So one back to tight ends to backs two tight ends for those who don't know what that means. They tried to really match up with the ravens in a phone booth. So to speak and ran the ball down their throats and just win straight up man to man, and they couldn't do it. So I think he got a one of the big keys is going to be diversifying the personnel packages. Spreading them out. Maybe seeing more eleven personnel. Groupings ten personnel. Groupings maybe even some twenty personnel group. With two backs. Maybe get equa out wider in the slot. Matched up against a guy like achieve on young or a linebacker in the slot. Find ways to spread them out. Get guys in space and get the ball and rivers hands quickly. That's going to be really important. I think because the game is probably going to be close. Again. They also really need to stay committed to the run. They can't let the ravens bully than out of their game plan and let them abandon force them to abandon the run in the first or second quarter because then rivers is gonna get killed. You just they don't have the offense of line to be able to drop back seven steps and try to throw the ball deep if they fall behind. So they have to stick to the run keep these guys honest run downhill at these edge defenders because I think to me suggs, even though he's a talented edge rusher. I think he's a guy who looks like he's a little long in the tooth plant a little slow. He's not very good against the run Jude on and Smith, both those guys can get bullied and the running game a little bit. I think the good matchups with teddy and. An Oku as run walkers against those guys in particular. So you got to run outside and you got to get back to doing what you do best. Which in my opinion is working in the middle of the field. Like, you said Garrett, I think you have to get the ball quickly. And you have to get the ball quickly in the middle of the field in space and make them tackle in the open field dumping the ball behind the line of scrimmage. That's nothing to do. Good because his team's fast. They come down hill, and they can tackle. So you have to get the ball down the field out quickly. And in the middle of the field, and they had some success doing that in stretches in the first matchup. It just wasn't consistent enough so spread about I wanna see more three and four wide receiver sets. Maybe one back sets, maybe some empty backfield's. Get that get that ball moving and I gotta play with more tempo. Garrett said start fast, you know, get. Get the get them in the personal groupings that you create the match ups that you want and keep them on the field and keep them working and breathing heavy and keep them, you know, keep pace up because if you start slowing the game down, and you're snapping the ball at one to two seconds every time they know. In the snap is coming those, Ed. Russia's are going to kill you the defensive lineman or EU alive and you're playing right into their hands. Because you're slowing the pace down. They want the game to be short. They want that clock to bleed so snap that ball with fifteen seconds left. Twelve seconds left. Get the tempo up. Get them breathing. Hard early gets points on the board early. And then try to build and snowball and worked downhill because if you are playing slow, and you're letting them come off the line and beat you off the line, you're gonna get killed, and then you've gotta work pillow game. And we know that doesn't one. Yeah. All right. So we talked about the keys on offense and defense for the chargers. Let's talk about who we think's going to win this game. I already looted to it. I think the charters are gonna win this game. I the ravens are a good team. I, but I just I think the chargers actually, I was thinking about this tonight. Watch rewatching the Denver game. I'm kind of happy the charges are kind of getting bogged down on offense late in the season. Not that it's ideal. But I think playoff games more often than not are one ugly. And the chargers are having to find ways to play and win ugly. And I think that benefits you down the stretch more than rolling people up and winning big. 'cause you're just not gonna get wins like that in the playoff. So I think it's a close game. I think it's probably somewhere in that lake three ten point range at the most. And I think the chargers win I'm going to say the score is nineteen twelve charters. All right. Yeah. Yeah, we're close people be happy because I think the charge win this game too. I just don't think the ravens beat the charters twice in a span of a couple of weeks. That's really tough to do in the NFL. And I think everything did go right for the ravens the first time around. The defense was good now not taking away from the Baltimore defense, but charge really shot themselves in the foot and. I think that they could correct themselves this time around they just had so much going wrong for them in Baltimore capitalize on almost every bad play that happened. So with all that I say the chargers win it's going to be ugly. I'm gonna say twenty thirteen but we've got the same seven point spread so charters win ugly and they're moving on. So let's go ahead and talk about this path to the Super Bowl then. So we both have them winning this game. And if we if I had my preferred path, and I'm sure Jamie, you'll be on board with this because it's a pretty simple and probably obvious path year of the chargers win I would want the colts to beat the Texans. So they play the chiefs, and he charges would then play the patriots who I know might be sacrilege. But I think they're kind of ripe for the picking right now, they are not the team. They used to be that defense is very bad. Gronk is looking very slow like you should be retiring in the offseason Brady is obviously. They're an age that offense isn't really as good as it used to be except for that running game. That's that's a scary group. But other than that. I think the chargers then face the patriots, which I don't think as bad of a match up as people might think. And if they were to win that obviously I'd want the colts beat the chiefs 'cause that'd be the easiest game. And then chargers get to play a home game to try to beat the colts go to these Super Bowl in the AFC championship game. So you got about the same route, Jamie. Yeah. I think we have very similar thoughts. I think the patriots in my opinion are the ones you want in the second round there looking old and tired. The defense is not very good particularly up front. They don't really have any playmakers at the first two levels of the defense. Seems like they are making the decision to take the ball out of Brady's hands at times down the stretch this season these making questionable decisions taking bad sacks arm. Strength. Doesn't look like it's there. I think that's the matchup you want even if you have to go into England to do it. I just feel like the charters match up really well with them on both sides of the ball. And would find a way to win that game? Even in spite of what some people would probably consider a. Coaching mismatch or a deficit in the coaching skill sets between Bella check. And Lynn, I just feel like the talent. The chargers have I feel like it plays out and they win that game. So I want them to New England the second round. And then even though I'm not necessarily afraid of going to Kansas City in for the championship game. I would much rather have the colts come to LA. So I would want the the colts to win each of their games and wind up with a wildcard matchup in the AFC championship game in LA, which I think the charges would win. Yeah. Same here. Okay. Guys. That's it. Our very first playoff preview of line around podcast. I am at Garissa St. on Twitter Jamie at lightning underscore around. And hopefully, we will see next week. Thanks, everybody. My name is Spencer hall. My name is Jason Kirk. My name is Ryan nanny every week. And by we form, the shutdown awful. Stran- keep telling you this forecast is technically college football podcast. 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Steelers Hangover: Did the Steelers give up and give in too soon just to end the Antonio Brown drama?

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Steelers Hangover: Did the Steelers give up and give in too soon just to end the Antonio Brown drama?

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And there was just a line in the song about you know, the deal being made, you know, something like that. And I just feel like the Steelers fleeced. But that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna talk about it right here on the Steelers hangover the reason, I'm seeing least is my. What I'm feeling right now is that they gave up in gave in just the end all of the AB drama. And that's the way I'm feeling do know how to feel. So I'm hoping that this next half hour. Forty five minutes will help me see through this entire thing. 'cause I am really disgusted with everything right now. And maybe I'm the wrong person to be leading this this podcast because I'm this is the most frustrated I've been in a long time. So once again hangovers brought to you by behind the curtain dot com. Oh, the ABC news. And hopefully, this is pretty much the end of it. But all the Steelers news you ever need. You know, there's ten new articles every single day. There's so much going on. And the very first to go ahead and present it to you. We'll be behind the curtain and one of the great communists on. On the curtain is my good friend Anthony deaf. Yo. Tony how you feeling today? Well, if you and Brian I'm feeling pretty good. I'm not feeling pretty good. I'm Kevin covert though. I think agree with everything you've pretty much said, it's it it feels like they had a drive. That's it. Get first round. They reached get a under. Gave up they didn't want to deal with it anymore, and and they had no leverage. So yeah, it's a very disappointing return for the gresh receiver in the game graduates Uber in team history. But in a lot of ways it says own fault, and but when he care, right? He's. He's in. He's in Oakland and Steelers are left with. Have a little trouble hearing, the you're cutting in and out. But thanks for thing that, and you know, I'll agree with you on that. So my question is we have this show will week ago? And we were talking about that. It's probably going to the raiders we felt like we still felt like you can get a number one pick out of even the number two pick wasn't the worst thing in the world because that's the thirty fifth overall pick. But now, you take a look at it. And you know, you're getting third round draft pick a third round traffic that you got from. From martinez. Bryant you're getting a fifth round pick, and basically the paint to replace the pick that you lost. When you traded with the raiders for Ryan Switzer. So in in ten months, this is the third trade for a wide receiver with a wide receiver being dealt in three in ten months with the same team when we're talking Bryant, we're talking Switzer. Now, we're talking in Tokyo Brown, but I feel like the the raiders at this point shift of the leverage. And and I don't understand saying, oh, we've got pay him more. So we're gonna give you less. They have all this money underneath the cap. Why are the Steelers taking so much less for them? And the answer is simple. It's because with the buffalo madness that happened this week that he drove the price down. Upon on himself. So he got everything he wanted. He left the Steelers I'm not going to say in ruins, but he left the Steelers holding still only twenty one million dollars against the cap because of this guy, and it's just a whole thickening situation that the bad guy in this whole thing got everything that he wants. And I'm sure there's going to be people saying, you know, well, you know, the NFL teams are bad guys because they don't honor contracts, and well, hey, walked I mean, they kind of player, but the player can go out and get another deal. And that's exactly what they do. And it's just seems like everything that Antonio wanted in the situation in Tonio got and the raiders didn't hate for in a pay the market price for him as far as the trade goes to the Steelers come. Compensation was low because. Hemed knew that Antonio Brown in that piece of crap. And I don't care I'm not being professional here. That piece of crap drew Rosenhaus who's done this before in the past when ahead and drove the market down. So the Steelers just basically had to give them away. They could've played hardball. They could have been you know, completely vindictive and not training. But what would of that settled? So at this point. Are you glad that the dramas just over Coney? I'm glad it's over because you know, I it's it was all consuming for since what December thirty first. But I'm still not happy. I wish I wish to draw away of continued. And they would have just been more patient because I mean, they had all offseason they had till the end of training camp essentially to to make a deal with somebody for attorney. Oh Brown that they could have just waited. And I realize roster bonus that he was due. And and there's there's other areas they have to address and they just wanted to move on from it. But if I'm them, and and I'm dealing with the raiders like we talked about last week. Give us one of your first round picks or there's no deal. I don't care how much money you have to pay this guy. You want him? You get that you want. We get one of your first round picks. You have three of them. We want one of them. I think that's very fair for the greatest receiver in the game. So I I mean, I'm glad to dramas over. But I'm not I'm just not happy with the. Outcome at all. I went to bed last night thinking that they were still gonna one from the raiders. Yeah. I was convinced when I saw third in the fifth. I've I'm still angry about it. I'm so angry that that I'm with the point with. I'm losing faith in the entire system dealer system. The NFL were just letting a holes get what they want at this point. That was completely. I mean, you know, he made and Brown made a mention this week that you know, he wants to he wants to come back. And you know, he was come back and be skier years from now as in the hearts of the fans, I don't know how he said it, but he always wants to be recognized as a Steeler, or whatever I think, you know, what I'm talking about here. But for me, it's just I. I am not a jersey burning guy, but the two jerseys that I have with his name on them. I do not want. Back. You know, you wanna you wanna contact me? If you wanna give Tony you want, my AB jerseys, yours if you want to you know, what I'm good for now. When when when those heal wounds healed for right now, I'm you know, what I don't want the wounds that heal because I can see that. You know what I'm just saying? Not welcome. He's not welcome in Pittsburgh as far as I'm concerned. What did he leave them with? He trashed them. He smashed them. He I mean he liked. He liked the tweet about the quarterback raping raping somebody. He completely smashed everybody. He does not care who he hung up dry. He got what he wanted with money, and it's guaranteed money. And how could you know, what I could not hold my head up high. If I did that. So me, I think he's a PO s at this point. And I don't want him back in Pittsburgh. So the wounds are not healed. You know, I'm boxing up anything that I have with that guy on it. And and that's all I can say I mean, he really I don't wanna say ruined a franchise because this is a good franchise, but he really left them in the lurch and that whole business with. With buffalo of the other night. That to me showed exactly that that a player can just do whatever they want and get what they want 'cause somebody's gonna end up paying them until we put the foot down. Of course, the raiders are going to do it until we put our foot down and say, this is ridiculous. We're allowing this to happen. I'm dangerous precedent has been set. And I'm sick of it. So that being said, I. You know what I'm at a. I was saying just a few weeks ago that I'm knocking wis poorly on another player. But I I hope it doesn't go well in Oakland or Vegas or wherever those that team plays. And I just hope I I hope it blows up. In fact, I am going to go as far as saying that I wish a reparable erectile dysfunction. How it toasts and? Yeah, I the on this guy. So an Rosenhaus, and you know, what I'm gonna throw another name Jian Rappaport in Rapaport is an idiot. This guy. This guy reports lies all the time. If it was in rob import have Antonio Brown coming back to the Steelers. So excuse me later on bell coming up the Steelers so many times he's in after his job. And he made this situation work worth with the entire buffalo thing that was two days over. On Tuesday from what I understand Thursday night, and unite or are texting back and forth thing. Wow. He's going to buffalo in rob imports. Reporting live reporting ABC's because he any throwing stuff out there. How can you trust a word? This guy says while we got that source. Well, trust your know, what kind of sources you have. But so this guy help make it worse. Because after that buffalo stuff went down. You you. We're not gonna get any better than a three on the sky. It's a three and a five. I mean, if they would have got to and five I'd be celebrating with you today without to being the thirty fifth pick. This gives them no advantage whatsoever. This doesn't help them. Now. What's this help? Help them gives them an extra three another five. You know, five were last year there fives were tailing Samuels, which okay, he was okay. And Marcus Allen. Good news every play dies. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean when sales we we got a little bit out of. But he's he's a future running back at that team. We could hope he is. So you know, and. So maybe I'm just crying. Maybe I'm just being a big baby here, they got nothing out of this guy. A three five to me is is nothing. Maybe I'll be happy if they get a steal on draft day. But the they really don't. We're not. So who who are we blaming besides can we really put the blame on art Rooney? Kevin Colbert everyone's fire by and it's all my comments fall setup. I I don't wanna hear it. I don't wanna hear the my calm and stuff. We really blame though. Could we blame? Kevin Colbert in the situation or did. He just do what he had to do just to end it. Well, I think when when when Antonio Brown refused to return the bosses phone calls back in January right after the end of the regular season. I think the boss said Kevin Colbert, we went the guy gone. And obviously they met in Florida. But he knew that he wanted him gone at that point because that's that's direct insubordination right there. But you're not you're not entering your boss's phone calls, especially after you after you walk out in at halftime of a game that you're being paid for. So I don't think you can really blame. Kevin Cobra all that much because I think they could've waited in. If I were them, I would have waited. And I I would have put him on the exempt list you can do that next. Season's that where you're not gonna even get paid. I'm not sure they could do that. But personally, but they have to look out for what's what's best for the France. What they feel especially the franchise and and Brown just not gonna make it any better. You talked about. He was he was going to Knicks any deal that he didn't like whether it be buffalo Washington wherever they they were planning on sending him as wasn't a situation. He liked. He was just gonna say he's gonna pony lie. Manning and say, I'm not going. Well, you don't have you don't have any any leverage at that point. You can't get anything better than what they got. I guess I mean, I personally would have waited maybe closer to the draft to see if they could have maybe if talked to the up, and maybe they could have gotten a better pick. But you know, I I don't think blame chemical. But the only person I blame right now was in Tokyo Brown because he made this whole thing so much worse. He could have been more professional about it. He wanted to leave fine. He could have been way more professional than he was. Instead, he act like jerk. There's no other way about it. You just laid out all the all the things that he said and did that were just awful. So yeah, I think the only person blame turning Brown. So with that being said, though, you said something that that really your sparked something in me, though, you mentioned that they could awaited into close to the draft million dollars for me. They weren't willing to give up to another two point five million dollars here, and they ended up with so much less of a hall. What here's the questions I have for you would have if they would away the closer the draft would have Antonio Brown Bologne, this up even more would. I mean, what would have you gotten for him? If you waited closer the draft. Would you the compensation be less because of or would have created a situation where he would've just? Piece would have given him the money you want it. Or what have you just made this sets of such a horrible situation that at this point the best you're gonna get round pick and not even the third. That's a good point. Because I mean and turning Brown businesses, always booming with him on social media. He's always making the rounds. And he's always saying something. And and I it's it's hard to imagine him not saying something destructive or self destructive or team destructive between between now and the end of April. So yeah, I mean, it's it's just as likely that they have gotten worse compensation as as you know, they have gotten better conversation. So yeah, I guess all things considered. This is probably the best they could have done. But it just seems like they it just seems like they could've. Could have had a better return. But we'll never know. Well, let's get into the factor. Fixing portion of our show we like to do this every once in a while. So let me throw this one out to you. And if it's regarding in Tonio Brown, it's regarding this entire situation. So fact or fiction the Pittsburgh Steelers going forward should clause and players contract regarding social media and the team what do you think? He. As far as using it fact, if it's if it's anything derogatory or makes team look bad, let me because other employers do that. So yeah, I think fact. You know? I mean, that's something we really need to. I hope they really started looking at because I you know, social media aided him in this entire situation. I do wanna say something real quick. I want to go back to some comments. I made earlier because I am an apologist. And I will do that. I will just say that my. My assessment that in my my thoughts that I do wish irreparable. Erectile dysfunction, diarrhea and that breath on Antonio Brown. Your Rosenhaus they do not reflect the views of Anthony deaf. Yo and behind the still curtain SP nation in general. They are just my thought. And if anybody takes exception with those thoughts, they are mind, but I tell you what that's about the first time. I've said that today I continue to say that again. And again, I I I'm just this is not the kind of guy that skewers wanna do business with anymore. And I hope we don't get it individual like this ever again. But let's try to move forward a little bit on this Tony. So where it is. What are the Steelers go from here? And where do they go wide receiver? Do they go into the free agent market? Do they look at a guy like golden Tate who a lot of people are trying to decipher his tweet today with the emoji. Like, the I believe it helped me out with this is what's the emoji with the? Yes. The eyebrows raised like the rock like the great way in the rock Johnson with the people's eyebrows. What's that for what the Steelers only got a third and the fifth out of Antonio Brown or you guys need a star wide receiver. I think it was the ladder because he's a free agent. And and you know, obviously, there's a job opening now at at why receiver in Pittsburgh. And and I think I think it'd be crazy for them not to pursue somebody like that, you know, you have to you can't wait till the draft to find his replace you have to try to find it now. And then maybe if you find another great prospect in the draft you go for it. But yeah, I think you have to try to you can't go in into twenty nineteen with so many unknowns. And you're gonna have so many as it is I need to at least get a professional veteran receiver in here to pair them with with do. Hey listeners. This is Luke Thomas show hosted m finding if you like mixed martial arts and combat sports. You should check out our weekly show. The m a hour each Monday, we speak with the top athletes enemy from world. Champions two rising stars also bring you in-depth analysis on technique in our Monday morning, endless segment. We talked to some of the brightest minds in the game. We answer your questions regarding the latest news and headlines of the world of professional fighting. Find us on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Can you think of a better option wide receiver than golden Tate to go along with Mr.? Hanno? I think that'd be that'd be a good a good signing. I mean, I I've asked a couple of people who know more about football than ideas that I think it'd be it'd be a great addition. It depends on the place, and as you notice dealers aren't necessarily eager to overspend the free agency, but I think there's ever season to do. It might be this one. So where does you know, we've been talking about this all along? And we we knew that Antonio Brown was going to be gone. But the question that I have for you now is where it is his put wide receiver. Now, Tony I mean, I still think inside linebackers number one is in need. I think cornerback is number two as a need and. I think wide receivers three more. Now that I think about it more. I mean, do you need a wider a great option? A great veteran option at lied receiver to go along with us Mr. more than you need a corner in free agency. Let's just say free agency at this point. And then after that, we can go ahead and talk about the draft. So let's start with free agency. Is it more imperative that they they go for a white out a corner free agency. In my opinion, the more. I think about it. Yes. Because you know, Brown and bell. And then I mean that was bread and butter of this team. I was the engine of this team last how many years that was the reason it was considered a Super Bowl contender? When now to those people are gone, and you know, you're confident and James Connor that he can do the job if healthy, but we Heaver I mean, other than huge you. We really don't we have there. You know, you have a known Jayme James Washington. You have Email. I who I think you know, you had with him. He's not really going to get much better than the is. Which is dependable slot receiver, which isn't bad. But he says the attorney oh Brown certain starting receive Rany NFL for as number two. So I think you have to and definitely find a really good number two receiver in frames. If you can if you can and then after that, then maybe you worry about the cornerback spot. But I think there's enough there's still enough there in the secondary that they can I. Eight to get by because you don't want just to get by. But I think the secondary. It's I guess the town when I'm trying to say is talent is more evenly distributed. Whereas the re in the receiver position, I think it's too. And then you just don't know. Okay. Let's play a variation factor fiction here. So we're just actually gonna do rapid-fire. Let's do it. This way blank would be a great option for the Pittsburgh Steelers at wide receiver through free agency factor fixing. So let's start. We already talked about Golden Gate, and we're gonna 'gree fiction. So let's just go down the line with some players from my article the other day and free agent market watts. So I have upright here Jameson crowd or Washington Redskins. Seth I think you competing player. Yeah. Tyrel Williams, Los Angeles charters. Oh, yeah. Fact, I like him. Restricted free agent, Robbie Anderson New York Jets. Much about him. I'm gonna go fiction. He he's like even like he didn't really excite me. He's he's also a little bit of problems out off of field with the law in with some things. So I and you have to give up a second round pick for him. So I'm gonna say fiction Michael Crabtree. Baltimore Ravens before you do that before you. Go ahead and answer that Sean Brown. Baltimore ravens. So both of those. I think the mom might be. I think John Brown would be a fact then he's he has more upside Michael crappy. Also fact, he's I think he's a he's a veteran receiver that you might be looking for who might not cost you all that much. Randall Cobb Green Bay Packers. Fact that's another player that I'm kinda like player. I'm looking for a veteran receiver. Who knows he knows that? With that being said, then you're probably gonna say the same thing about up here are sewn Mary's Thomas as well. I would think so it sounds like we we could go we'd be fine with a solid player over the age of thirty. If he could come in at a good price is that what you're going to. I think. Six five of these. And let me take Tiro Williams off the list. I think he would be great option. He's twenty seven years old. He's six four. He's probably going to cost a team a lot of money. So we're both agreeing that he would be good fit for the Steelers. But for this exercise when I go ahead and take them off. So let's go golden Tate, Michael Crabtree. John brown. Randall Cobb in peer are sewn, and let's rank them with one being the highest. One being the best the best fit and five being, you know, we take them but not as high as number one. So let's go ahead with. Number five. I'm gonna go with I think Garson, I think he's probably I think he's always best years many years ago. I think he's probably the lowest on the list that I would I would be excited about. How about number four? Let me throw one maybe Crabtree. Yeah. He's another one called who has I think crappy probably number four. I think he's another one who's who's best years are behind him. But you can still give you something. So I guess then Cobb number three. Yeah. Cobb. And then I think I'm gonna go with John Brown is number two. I think he he'd be. I think I actually I I like him. I think he's a a younger receiver. So I I don't know exactly how what he is. But he's a new receiver then. And then I think golden Tate would be number one. I think he's he's definitely the one that can come in. And and give you the biggest bang for your buck right away. Well, you know, those those are some good names. I agree with you on that. I think out of those five I would be looking at John Brown, and and golden tape, and you might be able to get a guy like John Brown cheaper. John Brown is the guy that could pick the top off of defense really easily construction out. Here's some other names and the Mary's. And does Bryant, you know, superstar in the past probably a little less tractive. Would you take a flyer on the desk? Bryant. Actually, I would. I mean, I, you know, he's he's not. I mean, he's obviously a div every Seaver, but he's also somebody if you're willing to willing to bring him on he can he could he has potential obviously, he can he's at home run hitter. And you know, he can. You close to what AB could could could do in his prime. So. Yeah, I would I would I would personally take a fire breaks I like this Bryant. But then again, I don't have to deal with Bryant. So if he to say. Well, it feels like we've had to deal a lot with Antonio route over the last three months, and it is over it's all over. But what the cryan, and there's gonna be lots of crying infielder nation, Tony. And we know that and we understand that. It's just. Disgusting that you couldn't get more out of a guy like this. And I don't think you look all you GM's out there that wanna play GM's and saying you should have done. This could have done this. I don't think he could have you weren't. This was not a fair fight. It it really wasn't set up to be fair fight whatsoever. And the Steelers are going to look bad for a while. They can turn it around with a very good two thousand nineteen of very smart free agent period and a very intelligent draft. And if they can do that they can turn this whole thing around factor fiction. The. Oakland Raiders win over six games in two thousand nineteen. I wanna say fact, I think 'cause I think they were pretty good a couple of years ago. I think they hit some injury problems the last couple of seasons. So I'm gonna go with facts. I don't, but I don't think they're gonna win many more games. And I think that the chiefs in charge is clearly the two best teams in that division. So yeah, I might say fact, but not not by much. You know, what we talked about the the raiders in Tonio Brown to Rosenhaus, of course, all being winners in this with the Steelers being the loser here. I would throw. Ian, rap report in the loser section because I think he lost ton of credibility throughout this whole thing reporting. What what he has reported in never being right on anything. Maybe he got the the raider thing right at the end. But about wasn't hard to do. Here's another winner in this whole thing. Levy on bell is no longer public enemy number. What wouldn't Steeler they? No. No looks like he's being recruited to the raiders as well. Could you see that happening? Those two in the trading gold for silver and. Thing. Both of those those two killer bees. Together in Oakland Vegas or Cal wherever they're play. Can it happen? Absolutely. I could see it happen. I mean, it's it's the raiders as you said they have a lot of under the cap anyway. And and they tend to love they they've always had a reputation for loving, the the bad, boys. So to speak the renegades and clearly at least in Pittsburgh Antonio, Brown, Beller or renegades are bad guys. So I could definitely see the raiders doing that and bringing them both in the fold. It would it would cause. I mean, first of all like you said moving the biggest so they need to excitement for their new city. And and number two they would. Be considered Super Bowl contenders right away. Because that's how people are. I don't think they would be people contenders. This how people would view them. So I could definitely see that happening. And it'd be a good story actually, see those two back together. I think the great story just as a football fan is a Steeler fan. You want wanna see him fail, obviously? But just for pure entertainment. It would be it would be a great story. Factor. Fixing in the Soumare final one of the night. I am wrong. Brian Davis is wrong for being so disillusioned with football right now. Fiction. This. I know I have you. You have every right to be angry. I mean one moment you're cheering on Antonio Brown. He's the best receiver in the game, businesses booming. You wanna love them you have you said you have to jersey and then within what nine weeks he's gone for third and fifth round pick, and he act like complete jerk on his way out of town. I mean, you ever have all the right in the world to being re it'd be disillusioned. It's it's it's how how many Steelers how many times do greats have left the team in such an ugly fashion. I can't I've been Franko who was at the end of the line. Anyway, I can't think of. Of many that wasn't. Anthem me. I mean, we were to you. And I were twelve years old when that happened, and there it was kinda devastating. But it wasn't as ugly as. No, I don't even close. His contract was up. So. It wasn't a situa-. I mean, it was completely different world than and he never really. And he kept coming back is a Steeler railway. I mean as soon as the apples over if you remember reading the book was their life's work. Yeah. They that that Christmas he was after being cut. I think that Christmas. He was he was at the Rooney's home for Christmas party. I mean, five months after being cut. So I mean, yeah, he he was he was a Steeler. Couple of months or a couple of weeks. So I mean that was that was just one that was the only really, bad example. I can think of but it really wasn't that bad. This was ridiculous with Antonio Brown. This was a guy who wanted his own way and didn't care who he stepped on whose feelings he hurt. How how much hurt his he he didn't care. How what are you gonna do to get his own way? And that's and it's gonna be hard for people to really ever accept this guy back into their hearts. Again. It seemed like a Terry Bradshaw thing. I think we're gonna take twenty years. And maybe that might not be enough. But the fans weren't mad at Terry Bradshaw. Terry Bradshaw was mad at the organisms. Right. Yeah. This is I mean for all intents and purposes twenty Pall Mall could be mad at the organization, but the fans just a door him. Wait it went down. So with that being said, it was a business move. So with that being a business moves, it might be a hip am I being a hypocrite for being angry at Antonio Brown for making what he thought was a business move. No. Because he he didn't handle it. Right. He did not handle it in a professional manner. He he basically handled it, and they office space kind of way, you know, he he from. From. Happening on the way out. I mean, he became Peter Gibbons. I mean, that's exactly what he did. He just not care when he said what he did. He wanted all the town, and he broke the copier underway else. So he no he he was not professional at all. So if you're gonna if you're gonna act like that in a very public way, then you have to be prepared for people such as yourself to say, I don't want what your jersey anymore. So I mean, you you have every right to be angry at at and how how he handled himself and so to many other Steeler fans Burton jerky. So I I think that's that's that's a classy move. I mean, don't do that. I mean, you give them. I mean, give it to a homeless guy give it to somebody. That would actually appreciate it. You know? I mean, it's a piece of clothing donated to someone like that. But don't Bernard jersey. But just. I mean. You know, what I'm just gonna say don't stop. And then the Steelers. I may be down. I may be disillusioned. But. The scene was going to live to fight again. And this team still more of a contender into of nineteen. Then the raiders are would you agree with that? Tony. I would agree with that. And and I also say this Antonio Brown's gone. The receiving core is kinda decimated right now. But it's also good hand because they have great wine. I knew great went into snow Schuster who looks like at this point. Anyway, he has what it takes to be a great one on field and off the field. You know, they they compare them the Hines ward and Antonio Brown spent the last nine years proving it was great. But he also proved that he's no Hines ward. He's no team player. He's no leader and juju Smith Schuster looks like he has the ability to be that kind of player to be another number eighty six if he's another number eighty six and he doesn't get the same kind of stats as an turning Brown. I think he's still going to be there's still gonna be much better off. I think that there is there is a hope for the future which his team. As far as contending extra. And as far as the overall class of the players because I think we talked about this before how they've gone another way to draft character guys years, and you just Shuster is certainly one of those guys and every every way so I think there is hope there's reason to be happy just not right now. You know, what we have our time to sports morning in sports morning is something that's acceptable. And as long as you put sports morning into perspective with other things going on in the world in life with that being said, you made me smile for the first time today by mentioning office space in Peter Gibbons. So thank you for that. I will also say you made me smile bringing up. Jeez. Smith Schuster because he had a two were tweet today this morning. Can you see that tweet? I loved it. I'm ready. I'm ready. So you know, what? Thank you. Thank you. Anthony duffy. Oh, thank you behind the curtain for putting up with me being upset. But guess what? I'm just gonna you know, turn the dial. And I'm gonna say two words, I'm ready. So that was I guess that was a quick turnaround. But I'm ready if there's guys like juju in the room, I'm ready if there's guys like jeans Connor in the room, I'm ready. And if there's a guy like lady in bell like Antonio Brown, not in the room the Neo what being said four Tony deputy. My name is Brian Anthony Davis. This was a very special edition of behind. So curtains Steelers hangover, and with that being said, you my friend have just been hungover we'll see next week and remember? Through all this just keep thinking two words. I'm ready. Good day. Everybody. Now is the chance to use reliable energy to grow your money with the dominion energy reliability investment. Our new investment product offers competitive returns, no maintenance fees and flexible online access to your money. 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Joey Mulinaro Joins The Show To Impersonate Joey Mulinaro

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So I'm wearing an animal print Bo wanNA cheerleader. No I wasn't I can't even do a cartwheel. Wow that's always wanted. One one perfect car wheel. My limbs are too long. I just was never any good at it. What did you say no? I just said I wanted to one perfect cartwheel. Is this a reference that I don't understand this and you never get my references got? It's fine You know what at this point honestly? I hope I never get one of your references because it's way funnier office. You know what I've watched it on and off. I've never been a huge a huge office person but I've decided that I'm going to rewatch the entire series during the quarantine. I know that Jack is not an office guy. Because he's just one of those conspiracy theory guys. He only watches like unsolved mysteries or Sopranos and listen to Coast to coast. Am All the fucking time while. I've seen I've seen the office of course. Did you know that reference? I know somebody who didn't know the reference Jelly I'm bringing in the guest right now. His name is and let me get it right. Because I I really don't know Joe Millionaire or Joey. Molinaro earth nailed the first time. Joe Mullen Arrow impressionist extraordinary comedian extraordinary. He's funny as hell and he works at bar so now and he's a big college football fan so I've been wanting to get him on. The quarantine is a great time to do it. Welcome to the show. Staying semantics are having me guys. Incite awesome. Did you talking to Joey. If we're talking to Nick Sabin or poor talking to coach who we talking to you about the ops and we got the bottle you know just in case you have to get into that a little and Yeah I'm always ready to happen anybody or did you get the cartwheel reference of course. New Year's resolution creed run his new resolution. I appreciate it. I'm ashamed I will make sure you know what I will watch that episode as soon as we're done recording just for you brandon no later on. I think that's a later episode like season six or seven so I don't think that's one you need to dive into. I'm going to watch all of them. Kiss guess what time doesn't exist anymore doesn't really fucking matter. I don't know what data is. I don't know what it is and you know what who cares. I don't need to know any of those things you just need to live between seasons two and seasons for to start off with. That's that's the peak. I remember season three being my favorite episodes when I did watch it back in the day. Don't sleep on season one now. Though there's a couple of really good ball and diversity they are both really good but it's just were to get so dry and I'll tell you what I watched. Season one back. Michael is so unlikable later. He was already. He stayed annoying but in the first season he was just unlikable annoying whereas later he got likable annoy. Like it cool. Like that's Okay Casey. You like I wasn't going to say that joke about Jack Two seconds from now anyway. Why are you lashing out at Jack? Although Jack does look like he's watching porn again today I know he's. He's got the whole Jack putting the laptop on your belly. It's not on my belly. Where is it if percent is touch Adelie? Is this better art is there? Is there lotion within three feet of you right now? Mark the fact that he had to look around to is kind of what's alarming. He actually had to check around himself to make. Sure our casts. We're GONNA talk to Joe a little bit about college. Football will do a news segment which will be very brief because not a lot of news out there and we'll do a random player segment and then we'll do the two minute drill the end of the show. That'll be the PODCAST. So minute drill was the what's from the listeners. Today right I'm going to go and I haven't even looked at him. I'm GONNA go peel them off one by one as we go further into the show. So I don't know if it's because I was lazy today or just I thought of this idea last week and neither one of you remembered it and that's that you did. I'm going to be completely honest with you. Is Dead idea to let them submit trivia drill. It's a great idea. There's no way that you said that out loud. I absolutely said that loud joey. Welcome to the show all right. Yeah so you have you before. Barstool you Kinda rose to fame during the impressions and viral videos do videos. You do the interview series with Brian going on estates and everything but you also do the first time. I remember seeing you was. I believe the Thanksgiving episode or the Thanksgiving call between at Orange. Ron and Nick Sabin. Is that one of your first big ones. Yeah so you had Thanksgiving with Sabin Christmas with Sabin and then in between had I think waterboy in coaching between the area and then a couple days after the day of the College Football playoff. I think I did coach. Oh and saving calling other. That's so call him to ask for advice. I remember that one specifically yeah he was kind of call them. Just give him shit though Israel asshole and saving having it. I was kinda premise. The thanksgiving one is the first one. I remember seeing being all right. This guy's got something good and then the fact that you could do more than just nick savings at first I was like. Oh He's a great Nick Sabin and then you can do everybody else too and Brandon and I talked about it around then we were like. We have to get this guy on every single week during college football season. 'cause we can interview whatever coach and now you just happen to work barstools. You don't really have a choice. Yeah just happened to you. Know it's worked out all right so yeah. I'm always down for the coach. Press Conference Caeser. That's my thing but you're not. This isn't just coincidence. That you're doing college football coaches I mean your football fan right. Your Big Golly. Yeah yeah no I mean that's like people talk about an unfortunately obviously we don't have much madness which sucks but to me. Best Time of the year is September to you know New Year's Day when a win college football that that is the first Saturday of what is it Labor Day weekend when you have the college football and it's all on its own knowing. Nfl to worry about the next day that is peak for me so college football big time. So I've seen you wearing some LSU shirts I've seen you wearing some producers which is what usually works well because at noon and then at three thirty in prime time and so I can get them both end but no my wife graduated from purdue. She's cheered for Purdue Humble Brag Got Scenario cheerleader. Humble bragging straight Brag yes. He was a doctor out. She was an affair. But Yeah My my wife was And so then I just kind of fell in love with purdue and then with lsu coach. Oh and everything that I do with these impressions. Everybody down. There has been great. And then obviously I just love Joe Borough and Lsu's just bad ass so my role them it's Nice it's nice to have a squad in the SEC. Right because like rooting for purdue in the big ten who pretty six and six. We're like let's go build six six only gets you so excited so I kind of do with the one of the my favorite things that you wrote and I know you and I have talked about this too. When you introduce yourself to the Barstool world you talked about your love for Lsu. And you're like I don't give a shit if people think I'm a bandwagon fan. I fucking love that because especially in college football. There's a lot of teams shaping who you and who you don't and I understanding a brandon has the t shirt fans that he deals with. And I get that but the fact that you're just like listen. I love Lsu. I don't give a shit. That's I think that's really cool. No I mean it's that's like the best part of it is just being able to like a baby. I just people get worked up about that. I just don't understand like obviously when teams are more prominent. More people are going to be like. Oh Yeah I dig them Mike. That's just human nature it's like it's like You know when election season comes around right and like two thousand seventeen or eighteen. Nobody knows who the HELL'S GONNA run for president. Nobody cares and then all of a sudden the Joe Biden like when Shit is more prominent at the moment. People are GONNA be more into it so I don't care I think I'm hundred percent in it so yeah that was A. It was actually a great comparison. Because you don't have a lot of there were a lot of What's her name? Amy Klobuchar there weren't a lot of hers a bumper stickers P Buddha judge in two thousand eighteen the same thing like L. C. Title. Helio buying a coach show shirt like aside away. If you're a fan of a team that gets t-shirt fans or gets bandwagon fans that means you're doing something right. I feel like that's a good thing. I hope everybody in the country becomes an fan at some point. They did when Johnny Manziel was playing and that was cool like hello. Please jump on the bandwagon. That means we're winning. Exactly exactly the joy lsu. Reach out to you when you did. When the coach Ron when the coach Oh things went viral. Did they reach out to you? Know people all the time like you've got you've had to make. Oh Joe Wright coach. Oh but nobody from LSU has but like myles Brennan is He's reached out to me like honey. Badger like different. Lsu players there Station down there like their flagship for Lsu. I'm real close with those folks like There Jordi t bob and just few people down there who cover them so no one directly from the program but like I'm like circling around the program like I've gone to everybody except the one. I need to get infiltrated the system. You'll get their San exactly. Yeah so I know that you do. You've done saving. You've done You've done coach Orion. You've done Mike Leach. Who is my head coach? Now you've done him very very well thank you. Are there any coaches that we haven't seen yet that you're working on? Yeah definitely always you know. Jim Harbaugh is a popular one that I get a lot that and PJ flack surprisingly for it. Looks Very personable light. He has very intergener- `ISMs right energy like you know Thrown tie if I can find some Maroon Pants bird can help you out with that Maroon. Paint guy he's got a few pair perfect. Yeah but him like. Pj FLAG PROBABLY IS NUMBER ONE. Bihar ball so people are like you. GotTa do one of that right and our most is tough man. I mean his his the great thing about or zone even save into and lead to a certain extent like regular voices like harbaugh kind of talks like a guy so I have a couple of bits that I think would be funny of like putting Jim. Harbaugh certain scenarios. But I haven't nailed it to the point around Mike. All right what about Tim Fischer? Oh Man that's good point Casey. That's another one. And he's because he's got a little bit of more of a non traditional voice. I don't really know what to describe his accent. Like how how you would describe that but I feel like you could nail that one. Yeah and he picked up on him like he kinda ramps up his sentences I feel I guess he like gets going like the speed of how much speed of how he talks gets faster as the sentence goes on this Little Hill. That which eat with each coach I like I try to pick up whoever impersonated. Whatever it is I try to pick up on whether it be. You know coke bottles stayed in like is like that Kinda Shit but yeah Fisher will be one. I'll try to get before the fall. A One last coach I'll ask about. He's in the playoffs. I mean he's he's all over the TV Dabo. Sweeney is somebody who I just think if you got your hands on him hard yeah I put him in a few like I acted as him and a few different Skits that I did and I never mailed it felt great about it. You know He's tough man. I don't know why that that southern drawl. That has just like much different than a lot of other coaches that. I've tried that. I've heard so you would think that he'd be easy but I haven't been able to to nail him down. I need you to nail that one before the next football season because brandon goes on little tangents about dabble all the time. I happen to like Tableau someone in need you to come up with that voice so that you can argue with Brandon for my sake brain so you just like he's too much like a God guy or what's going on I I just I don't buy I just. I think it's I don't think I don't think you can do the things you need to do. To succeed at the highest level caused football and be the epitome of this This flagbearer that he is for religion. I just don't I'm okay. If a guy does what he has to do in college football but don't tell me you're winning because the favor of God now you're winning. Could you gave that linebacker? Four hundred thousand dollars. That's why you're winning. I really need need the Dabbagh voice to fruition so that you can argue with them agree with them. I just need this to happen in two thousand twenty him and they're up there but my dad. My Dad comes back to the old hugh freeze thing which I like you freeze before everybody else did. And it turned out that he absolutely was a phoney and a fake. And I just feel I hard. I just don't buy it with data. That's all concerned if if he presented himself as a great coach and that was it. Do you think he's calling hookers? No that's why I don't I don't know that no. I don't think that I just wanted to make sure we haven't gone full. Hugh freeze on him yet. No and just whatever whatever so all right brandon. Don't give them and worked up. Joe Wire College football coaches especially because there's coaches in like NFL coaches in major leaguers. Coaches everywhere is just the characters of college football that lend themselves to to this. Oh for sure and Tweeden and especially now with Elaine Kiffin. That's another guy Joining the SEC. Joan off the mail down for sure but I mean tweet about I was like. Is this heaven no this is the SEC west? Because honestly I instead of the Heisman House. They should have that house for those coaches. I mean that would be more entertaining. Siri's heismanhouse would die out though key out lane and you got that fat ass Arkansas. Nobody knows his name Jimbo. You got everybody exactly. So they're just really. I mean I think fits perfectly with the. Sec fits perfectly with those kind of football fans and there are a lot of fun to to make fun of impersonate. When did you realize you could do all of those voices so it was like with Nick? Sabin first and then you cap practicing or are you just always been this talented say that? I've always been the Celtics. Boundless a story behind it because it's my first one I did was Andrew Luck. The old for the colts which is incredible. And then this math. I love him I do. I respected decision. But just for the SAKE OF ARGUMENT HERE. He decides selfishly. He decides that he's going to retire. And then I have to find somebody else to impersonate because that was my guy like people in Indy. Knew me as like? Oh Yeah Andrew Luck Guy. And so. He retires are. I can't do him that much anymore. Impersonate hitting that much anymore. So now I gotta figure out and so saving. That's the funny thing about saving to like. It just took off because I thought the bit of Ham complaining to his wife around Thanksgiving was just hysterical so I was like what I can do with it and then it just you know deter became became what it became and obviously origin on. The list is kept going on and on but basically. That's what it was. That was luck. Donut out of the spotlight anymore. I was like I gotta figure out what people to try to impersonate. And and you know putting the skits I gotta be honest. It seems like Andrew lugging retiring. Is the best thing that ever happened to you. Yeah I mean like but that's the funny thing is that I thought that I couldn't really use him skeets anymore. Anything videos but I'm finding out the case because the stuff outside of football is now most even funnier thinking about out hand stuff inside football so it's worked out so far maybe we'll make a comeback and you know we can have. That'd be something really good for me by the way you are allowed to say that. You're just really talented. We won't tell anybody if you want to say that you haven't found out very quickly in the barstool world and the the Public Iowa worlds at the out. Anybody says you're talented. There's twelve other people who are to dislike you saw you don't sound like that guy you shut up and so I'm just like I'm good man. I'm sorry about that. I was just having a bad. I still read it tomato. Just don't read it. I don't know which one of my burners I put on you that day but it was printed. Got One more question. Then we'll move. Owns a college football news? Just this not even about the impressions not about your talent just about college football now. What's your favorite comfortable memory? What hooked you onto college football. Oh Man I'd say it's so gone up in the Catholic school kid. Everybody loved Notre Dame Ray. It was just like that's what you had like. You know death taxes and Notre Dame football right. It's just what what happened to you. Grew up in figured out. There's other things to care about So I'd say that two thousand five Dame team with Brady Quinn Jeff Samardzija those folks that yeah that game really the the USC Bush game. I was heartbroken but that game from that point on I was like man. This is the best sport in the world. That's a good one a hook you even though. It was heartbreaking. That's not a bad not a bad taste in college football right now so it was a little bittersweet but damn what a game. That's what makes college football fans and if you don't have one of those first bittersweet memories that really actually made your heart hurt like for me. It's all the years I cried over losing to the University of Texas all the time. That's what makes college football so much better than anything else because you actually have the emotions attached to it and it's just much sweeter when I used to take him down which they won't they won't they won't ever you know they just i. It's I don't know if I'm ever going to witness them winning anything but hey I'm hold on hope. That's what I remember. I remember all the hurts a lot more than I remember. All the the field goods courses Mississippi State Fan I got more Hertz. But say what like? What's that's the thing is i. I can't even talk shit to you because I'm dealing with the same thing. I mean winning the Big Twelve Championship in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight. Is this guys. It's gotten for me as a college football fan while I've been alive and the fact that has been for the last six years when something for me one time and then you can talk shit all right. We're GONNA some news and notes coming up next before we get to that though Casey we gotta talk about what we've been eating what we've been sustaining during this quarantine it's not been easy. Brennan but I'll tell you what I recently got sent a box of built bars. Which is protein bars which has really saved my life. Because I'm going to be honest when I wake up in the morning. I don't feel like making anything even though I have nowhere to go but I know I need to get my protein and these built bars not only are delicious. They make me feel like I'm eating a dessert. And guess what in quarantine you can eat. Whatever the hell you want whenever you want if I didn't have these things and if I didn't have these healthy snacks in my life came along at the right time they really did. It was almost like they knew we were going to be stuck in our apartment because they have that candy bar taste but they have fifteen grams of protein. Only one hundred and ten calories which basically is telling me that. I'm tricking my body into believing that I'm eating bad but I'm actually eating really really good for me. So I've been doing the push-up challenge. Arben doing push ups. I did sixty sixty day. Eighty eight yesterday and every time at the end of the day the end of a long set. That just absolutely wears me out. I have one of these. Yes you need your protein build those muscles so bill bar does that your kids also probably like him because they taste just like candy bars and like. I said it's saving my life Jack. I'm sure you've been eating them too because there's no chance you're actually making anything to eat. No and taste amazing. They're amazing it's the perfect protein bar and so right now we're going to give the people who are also stuck in quarantine like the entire world is we're GONNA give him a gift that keeps on giving because Bill Bar is offering our beautiful listeners. 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What is it the girl who did his impersonation on Tick Tock is that? Who's dating now? He's not dating her But that would be hilarious if he was she. Trevor Lawrence looks just like the sister the daughter in ozark which is coming out this weekend by the way have you ever had. Anybody watched Ozark the hunt for Red October. No I'm not no I'm not I'll show you right. Now hold on. Let me pull this up. Really Quick Zenit Jason Bateman arrested development now. I'm not thinking about tell me. That girl does not look like Trevor Lawrence. All she dust and ashes. I picture. There are a Lotta pictures where they look like. They could be identical twins. What's armlock probably pretty good guys? I made the commitment on twitter that I'm not going to cut my hair until lsu loses again sprayed that yeah. I'm afraid that you know November comes around. Maybe I'm Trevor Lawrence Hair. I think that's how it's going to grow. Tell you right now this year Joe. I think you're getting haircut in September. No we disagree with that but I also am way more concerned and we'll stay topical here. What if there's no college football season because of this bitch virus talk like that? I'm not gonNA talk talk about it but I'm just saying. Is there a contingency plan in place if I got? Joe Is getting haircut first weekend. Okay hair say they play? Utsa second week this week to know they're not losing Texas. Get the fuck Outta here. Got Rice Non Death Valley then all mass October. You got nickel state okay. You're you're getting your haircut right after October tenth who they play ten mistake. No they go to the swamp to play Florida. Shit that one. That one's a little bit more if he I don't think they lose to Texas in Baton Rouge but even so with word we're still talking shoulder here soderling so at this point. I don't think anybody's getting their haircut during the buyers so it doesn't really matter do what talking to marry you. I'm not shaving until we go back to work. I see I said this when we were off camera. I actually really liked the scrap. I'm a huge fan of scrap on men. I think it looks great. You look pretty good right now. Despite the fact that you Rox well obviously obviously Mrs Walker has the. I have the most respect for her. But I'm just telling you that you look nice with the scruff every week with this but the Trevor Lawrence thing really quick I understand that the NC double a. Never knew about it but the fact that when I did read that headline and believed the NC Double A. Would shut that down. There were zero doubt in my mind. Says everything you need to know about the NC Double A. Because you couldn't you see them actually shutting this down. They don't let people. I'd say we're dying. No win situation like but they didn't do anything and people just take the opportunity hate on because they suck all the time. What have they ever done to prove that? They don't deserve to be thought of that way. Ever this was my favorite piece of news. We've had since we started doing this show. Oh omiss I don't know if you saw it went. Viral sent out a form letter to alarm saying. Hey Hey guys listen. You're getting older. You might die of corona virus. Could you go update your will so that you can give money to Ole Miss? I loved it. Did you see this. This is my favorite news. I've seen in so long. Not only did I see it. I thought when I saw that you had photo shopped it and it somehow it had gotten out because it was too big a gift holes. I told you guys are assholes. Don't use this for months. Oh I know it was good to be true. It was way too good to be true but almost is the gift that keeps on giving Brandon Walker because Holy Shit. What a tone deaf thing to do. And you know who hires lane kiffin as holes surrounded by astle look? See The news here Oklahoma. What do you think people are actually doing it? Almost fans are stupid. Of course doing a bunch out. Chaining trying to buy four star running backs from the next generation. Of course. They're doing it. That's all we do. You Have Mississippi state in your well irrelevant. Oh you grad transfer trae sermons transferring to Ohio state. I don't care about that at all. Oh here it is. Ncw has added again. They will address name image and likeness for student athletes. It'll be delayed because of corona virus which means any return of NCW. Football's delayed because of corona virus. Which you would think be the opposite right. Maybe give it to our house now. They should waive all this bullshit and say you know what we need to give the people an opportunity to not lose their minds. Oh and by the way they would make a gazillion dollars if they believe that right twenty one right now I would say conservatively. They would make a one hundred million dollars by midnight easily. I've never even owned a video game console and I would buy one and by that game just to be able to buy it. What's that says? My Guy Joey be on. The cover has to be one hundred percent. I mean there's not even a there was an argument for anyone else. It's a false one. I mean that would be ridiculous Joey when we went to rowdy Miami. We went to rough and rowdy Miami and it was. It was really crowded there. I mean it's so crowd you couldn't move but I just look up everybody's changing around me the whole night and but for about an hour there in the middle. I'm just standing next to Joe Borough. Who Tamed Rough and Rowdy and Joe's just housing Vodka Porna- down this guy? I can go one player at one point. I looked over. And it was like brandon was standing directly in the middle of me and Joe Borough and I kept looking up at it but I was like. Did you ever think that we would just be standing here? Shoulder to shoulder in Miami watching the heisman trophy winner. Housing Vodka and brandon had this smile on his face like a ten year. Old Brand was coming out. He was so fucking happy and then I was just watching Joan. I was like not only. Is this guy the best college football player we've probably ever seen? This guy can drink on the rocks. Was He makes it and we it was a it was the the new. Amsterdam table service. Oh just all the different mixers but at that point in Miami like no one cared. Everyone was just trying to get drunk and he was just leading the charge. All right so that's news where we go next okay. It is time for random players. We now have four people here and Joey was brief. So Joey did bring five random players So go joey. More comfortable being the guests and leading off or would you like to bat third. Where would you like to baton his lineup? Yeah Let me go. I'll do third claiming she wanted me to clean up. I can't just because you guys are toe nailed. Exactly what you're looking for. I literally took the most random I can think. Well let's just ease into. You'll he's tool album. I 'cause I'm the smartest and best looking. So what was Brandon? Yes you are the best looking right now because of your beard. I would like to say that again. She's just she's also not in the room. Anyway of I ten. She's going anywhere near you right before we get to our random players though. We need to not only talk about what we've been eating during the quarantine. Jack we also need to talk about what we've been wearing because even though we're stuck inside we still wanna be comfortable for under percent in. They say when you're in the quarantine but you still have to work from home. You WanNa do the same routine and I know for sure when I put on a nice feeling shirt or even nice feeling's socks or even underwear like I'm just I just feel better. I just feel ready to go and a more productive. There's nothing worse. So whenever you're wearing uncomfortable underwear or socks are really anything. But it's like it just throws your whole day off even though you're laying around in your apartment or your house or wherever you are right now you want to be comfortable. Have to be comfortable in. I would even say the days when you're laying around that's when you need to be even more comfortable than like a day that you're there you're out in like at work which seems like it's not gonNA happen for a billion years during. I mean we're never leaving but our guys over at Mac welder making it much easier because they basically took a look at the department stores and they said what do we fill our top drawers with what men put on their bodies usually. It's very uncomfortable. And they're like no no. We're going to take this into our own hands. Because they wanted to make things that are more comfortable for people. I I feel like it was just an obvious thing. They're like Duh. 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He just changes his own rules and doesn't let us know coming into the podcast today. He made up something that he said last week. You just made it up. Let her who. The fuck is Leonard. I don't know like he was just like. Didn't we say that it just didn't happen? It didn't happen and listen. I as a female. I bank everything. I'm a steel trap. Right here are not. I remember everything you've ever said to me. And I can guarantee you first of all. You didn't say what you said that you said and second of all. I don't know who Leonard is in the fact that you're not speaking to have made up person named Leonard is terrifying so what I did was I did random plays I have random plays in that arena players so I will go I I will go number one and my first random. I rent play. Random player is name was George teague and in the nineteen ninety-two Herbal Alabama played Miami. Miami was heavily favored Alabama undefeated on the SEC. Miami undefeated heisman winner. Gino Tarita and they are you know. They're on the cusp of winning third national title in forty years they go down New Orleans and get the shit kicked out by Alabama and Georgetown. You got to play the game. He ran down. Miami Receiver almo sideline from like thirty yards. Back took the ball from him and ran. The other way was the play of the game. Play the nineties. In my opinion George Teague Alabama Nineteen Ninety S. George. Teak feels like a name that like seventeen. Different football players could have had throughout the last two decades. And I'd be like yeah for sure. That guy played in one thousand nine hundred five also played in two thousand eleven. George Gardiner would play in a leather helmet. Yeah Yeah I mean you could tell me that George teague played football literally any year since college football started and I would have believed George teague also played halfback for army in one thousand nine hundred forty one believe it probably is on the Mississippi State Rauscher in two thousand twenty could are tasty you next okay. So last week we decided is during the quarantine. I'm just going to keep playing games to keep Brandon happy because he likes game shows. He likes Trivia so last week we did. Random years of heisman trophy winners. I decided today. Now there's not as many because the bullet knockoff is only been around since the early nineties. But I thought of the first five bullet knockoff. Winners that I can think of and we're going to see if you can get them. Is that okay? We'll be much much tougher staffer but I will say that. The five came to mind are very well known wide receivers. It's not like they're just some random awards because it was the first five that came to my mind the first one. He's one of two wide receivers in bulletin History have won it twice. He wanted in two thousand seven and two thousand eight MARKAC Rotary Air. You go gang on seven but then when he said to us eight donor APP yet. The only two guys. Unless I'm wrong I went back and looked at and then maybe I can read only two guys since the start of the bulletin. A cough have won it twice. Michael Crabtree is one of them all right there. You Count Brandon Walker on the board on the back on the Board Leonard Right. This is a Combo one so I'm GonNa do to at once. Oh now see roles but it's GonNa it will make sense so yesterday Everyone was talking about the stimulus package in the Republicans Democrats. They're saying they're on the five yard line. Don't worry Brandon I. It will make sense okay on five yard line there on the two yard line but what? I was thinking. Obviously they're saying that football terms. And I thought of the two quarterbacks I were brought in and both in the big twelve when the ball was at around the two yard line mid twenty tonnes Lake Bell like for sure and twenty tens this Guy Johnson. Now he threw the past. That is the That resulted in the famous Texas back clip tyrone swoops. Oh yes at the eighteen. That was two thousand ten not decade. Sorry I shouldn't Notre Dame game the note that game was awesome. It was on the On Memorial Day and she threw the pass. The ball was at like the two nets right after that is one I forget who it was but Texas is back folks and then obviously people have been saying that for about five everytime. Tyron soups came into the game. That season and it was like. Oh Shit what are we about to say? Never lived up to the hype that it did but that play was awesome. All right all right all right okay. I'm sticking like I said I'm sticking like more probably mid western Silva big ten Notre Dame that kind of thing. Tate forcier order back quarterback to get out. Yeah I I should've led you into that a little bit more but that's my first one. Whatever you want just nine big house Notre Dame playing up there early kickoff in this dude like he came out of nowhere. He had the game his life against Notre Dame gutted them at the last second and he he was somebody who was mouth off big time after that one kind of you know living in the moment big time for him and then he went downhill. Big Got replaced by of trouble. I think he might have gotten in trouble last night in eligible for a little bit. Or maybe maybe I'm thinking of a different guy. But I felt like he got in trouble. A bunch of white quarterbacks with last names for first names like them. Yeah but I mean he had one game. Litter name always hated them. That's not a first and last name. Casey take can be a first name last name primarily like tape marks and you think of the last name. Yeah I guess I always think is Jack and I talk a lot about him all the time. Well we don't know a person. Just you know his antics. He knows for sure he is somebody. That's definitely worth talking. Shit about. So nineteen ninety-six people. Forget now how rare it was to beat Florida state in the mid nineties in the early nineties. Florida state from his top five fourteen years in a row beating them was a gigantic deal and in one thousand nine hundred six and I might have the euro might be ninety five so I apologize from wrong. Route Ninety five or ninety six Virginia beat Florida state but at the end of the Game Warrick Dunne took a very unique play. A direct snap to work on. They were at the six yard line. He earned the four yard lining four yards. He got three and a half. He was stopped. The Goal Line as Virginia beat Florida State. That's my random play. I'm looking at right now because I wanted to see the actual play. I keep forgiving that you're doing plays and so I was like I know my guess. He changed his own his own rules up and didn't let anybody who were done. Was the random player there and I just happened to be a play that I was doing dinner. Reverse it it was a reverse in the backfield you said I was a direct snap to him and it was like two seconds left. There was a call. You wouldn't see in that scenario. Usually pass their nineteen ninety-five. Yes those right across. The worst down. Apparently had a couple big time plays because when you just youtube but there's like four or five that immediately pop up war. Going was a great player. There you go okay brandon you ready for number two. Yes okay. This player won the Belinda cough in the late ninety S. He had over eighteen hundred yards receiving this year. I almost showed you again. I did that last week. And as soon as I say that you're going to get him. But this was the second name that popped in my head arguably the best wide receiver that the goat Tom Brady has ever played with. He actually appears in mind later on. Oh okay all righty ninety. Seven Marshall Rainy Moss. Yes so we have a. We have a double up again. Have we ever done a week without doubling up? Who's the best wide receiver who played with? That's what he said. She said she shouldn't have said that. You said second. No I meant as I said arguably. He is by far the best. But those Wes welker Randy Moss definitely sure a thousand percent. No the best wide receiver. That Tom Brady's ever played with that. Was that was easy. Let's see that go ahead. What was that. I didn't mean to say Oh my God letter talk your ear again. I'm doing my best. Do My best guy's house before kids. There's not even as Zach like yeah. I Apologize to apologize number. Two on my list is a guy who has a funny name He got literally like a Bagilia tackles. I think in Twenty fifteen but she played on the xfl this year played Arizona. Scooby right I think he had like a hundred fifty tackles one year but I think he got drafted into the NFL. So it's one of those weird what he's in the XFL. Yeah he played. I think benefit the defenders are maybe somebody else but he He was one of those guys. When you're watching the next new sought in. You're like Oh yeah I remember him But there is a year that I was surprised that he didn't get drafted because it was like. How do you have one hundred tackles? No one wants you but I think he had like injury issues. Oh my story about him is I had not seen him play. I've just seen a number of news and all American and I tuned into Arizona. One night to watch him. I'm GonNa Watch right and I just see what it's all about because he's just a huge player and I'm like wait. He's a white guy thing I don't know so but he wants and he is is anybody named. Scooby is something to tune into. But I understand that brandon that I probably wouldn't have thought that right off the top of my head either Burger. Just so joey dude with a kind of funny name. My opinion in coolest names in College Football History. Big Ten player. Two thousand seven quarterback anybody anybody feeling anything now just breaking. Jim Blue Colors of his team of the saddle just Williams. We've done juice Williams on this one. Yeah no it ended up just Williams. We did a really been no no. I think now because I've had juice Williams on my list before well him or Jae Lim in but you remember Jay Lemon all American linebacker from Illinois same squad. Oh you were going with some sort of fruit or food on this one juice Williams Led him to the Rosebowl along with Rashard. Mendenhall future steelers running back. And how state in the horseshoe that year and a really as an and they had a great defensive player. Lehman a believe wasn't Ohio state number one when they did that. That was the year that number one guy beat every single every single week. Lsu randomly and the AD. That was a good game. I'll speed through my third one because Casey kind of did it already but my random play was randy. Moss is. Welcome to the big time moment. Everybody knew was a good player. He transferred from Florida state because of because of trouble but he had an eighty nine yard screen pass where it's as big highlight in college where he leaps a guy halfway through and he wore the high socks in the Outran. Everybody is remember thinking with a socks pool. All the way up his the bottom half his leg like five feet long he was taking these long strides and that was when Randy. Moss really became a household name to me for sure. It was illegal back then right. What the high socks are hurled. Somebody I remember in his thirty for thirty they were like I was supposed to be a flag because you kind of hurdle somebody in college football back. Yeah I think it was. I remember being like I've heard but the way he did it was was such a showmanship in style that nobody can throw a flat. Sure and also what terrible rule anyways like. Why would you ever WanNA penalize a hurdle? It's not like you're hurting anybody to protect waters. Yeah but like hurdle whatever who cares you would just kill them all when you tell them all. No no no no. I totally agree with a lot of the targeting stuff hurdling. I can't figure out why that would harm anyone. You're up in the air or scholar in the same co-starring go next. Okay Braden. This is the second player who won the bulletin of cough twice. So the first one was Michael Crabtree. The second one he won in two thousand ten and two thousand eleven to keep going. No who is who is go ahead played it Oklahoma state. Oh was it blackman. Yep Justin Blackmon man. Wow so the only two wide receivers in history that have won the best wide receiver of the year. Twice is Michael Crabtree and Justin Blackmon. Shout out the big twelve because they allow it because they don't play any fucking. I set you up for that one. That's what I really wanted to hear as you throw a little bit of shade at the big twelve. We haven't done it in while number three number three right this guy pointing on those wants and porn over here. Okay this guy what browsers for five minutes in one of the grit like people thought he was one of the great running backs ever and I still remember watching which ended up being his last. Not I think it was his last blake because he did end up playing fell his knee like it was one of those injuries that you're like this is this is bad. This isn't like all you'll be back next season like. Oh this is career angles. What no no. No little bit little bit before. Sec mortgage lot more. Yeah there we go was and I think he's He's coaching right now And I think he's made a career coaching so good for him but he was someone who when he played for South Carolina He's like one of those true freshman that came in and was just. Yeah and the next year people are like in. I think it kicked off one of those whenever people would say. We'll talk about Leonard Fournette. They're like Oh you don't WanNa Marcus lattimore injury but Or it happened against Tennessee. No struggle it's I had him so yeah. I thought it was Tennessee to Jack. I think he had come back from injury. Maybe got hurt again but the original was because Yeah Brandon loves. Brennan loves being the place where players get hurt. Yeah Fuck you too. All right joing next all right. We mentioned earlier in the show. Safety or single. Digit number is excited replays. Ever was that and again we talked about wearing the green jerseys that punt return where he broke like six tackles against. Usc BOXER RIGHT. That was always the thing that said about him. Yeah yeah he was he. I think he might have box. You might have to fight like Madison Square Garden or something. There is amazing. Because you had Brady Quinn go the NFL. Yeah Jeff's Amarjit turned into a very good start or a major league. Baseball and just margin was outstanding receiver. And then you had a Zipper Caskey. Who went on to be a prizefighter and I think he actually ended up being a firefighter was also done so yeah anyways farting yeah. Imagine being so good at multiple things that you could excel that high at a level of two different things like that. I don't really have to imagine that all right number four okay. Random plays nine thousand nine hundred seven. We were all tired tired of Nebraska by then Missouri had him on the ropes Missouri. Adam Missouri beat them. They beat them. Except they didn't last-second Nebraska throws a pass in the end zone. It was tipped up and I don't even know if I'm getting the players. I think it was Scott Davidson. Was the name of the player. The receiver who dove out of nowhere called it touchdown force overtime they went. Nebraska was all but beat when they were unbeatable. That's one of the. Most incredible play's Brent Musburger was on the call probably his best call ever Scott Davidson and I. I DIDN'T WANNA look it up because I didn't WANNA get. I WANNA get the name wrong if I had the name wrong but I think I got it right. Sounds right to me. Those add Nebraska said that Missouri Missouri. You One thousand nine hundred ninety seven ninety seven God Nebraska so good in the mid nineteen ninety s ended up splitting national title Michigan. Damn boring to me. I know it was. I've said this before my next door neighbors growing up where huge Nebraska fans. That's the first ever national championship. I remember watching and just thinking like these. These people are boring but they have winning so it doesn't really matter. I remember being like eight years old. Watching the you'd just totally thrash Eric Crouch Nebraska and I loved it even in the U. Is just so much more fun to watch all right Brandon? So this was the I said I named the I wrote down the top five wide receivers. That came to my mind that I knew had won. The BELINDA cough. I've actually think I've already done this one. I think I did it like my first week but I don't care I'm staying true. The randomness won best wide receiver in the country. In two thousand and four played in the big ten played in Ann Arbor. Michigan gotten a lot of trouble later on in his career but he never yep he was drafted number. Three two thousand five and the reason Joey that I said Braille and Edwards one of my other random players lists because he's in a Mac Miller song and it was stuck in my head so Brian. I'm I'm big Mac Miller guy which was free. He mentioned him and live free. What are you get in trouble for? What am I not remember being a Matt Miller Song? Yeah no he. He got like he was always a fight with somebody. That was Lebron's guy. There was like a whole bunch of random shit that he did. We had a funeral for a bird. he said that football talk to joey enjoyed Braille Edwards back when he was number one back in Michigan this way back in the day God s on Edwards. It looks like you're right. Just bring your name. Yes so joey. I'm pretty sure he like punch somebody. That was friends with Lebron. I think he might have gotten arrested for drunk driving at some point. But I didn't know any of those things. It doesn't really matter all right all right. Come on those punishment enough. We'll I go ahead. Thank you This guy was one of the last great. Ncwa football players great match in player speedy. You played at Kent State there. We go running around. Right now was Little small fifty speedy guy. I think he may still be all right now. I think he is branded or the first one got okay. Well whatever he got me and then he got three archers just like a dagger to the fucking Heart Okay. You got me all right. This is something that you'll learn the more that you work with. He loves trivia so much that if he gets spoiled his whole mood get spoiled. I don't know if you've ever watched the Barstool College football show last year but David Dan would go out of their way to spoil his trivia segment so I always chose not to because I want him to not be mad at me all the time so just keep that in mind will a scene stealer stuff and the reasons I knew that is because history archer got drafted by this big in a third round isn't really fair. Okay that makes sense see. He'll find he'll find a reason. Why everything has loophole. Don't worry fuck the order up. I think I switch the order. Now you're good against it. Okay so but Joe. You've already gone this round right now. I haven't oh my go ahead. No you know the receiver mid two thousand right about two thousand ten Brian Kelly Nine Notre Dame Cincinnati. Okay how funny name Marty Gillyard Nice Brandon. There you Mardi gras top. He's back he was a stud Back in the he didn't really do much to the NFL. He bought out for Brian. Kelly Brian Kelly Being Cincinnati is always one of those things that just completely forget it. It's like whenever you talk about Nick Sabin and Lsu which just doesn't exist to me. I remember because he obviously Yukon big east of course and then I think wasn't there. Didn't he leave Cincinnati and kind of like a dish way? The Need Not yet. He left him before he took the name job and left them. I think before it's championship weekend. Or either the day after the The Big East Championship. Yeah now they have big same thing but he lets him before the season ended. Let's for the sugar bowl. And then they went in there stormtrooper uniforms and got pass cake by Tim. Tebow high in the shadow will not directly let Tommy Tub reveal leaving Texas tech addicts way. Yes and then Tommy Tucker Ville talk about one of the worst coaching moves at Cincinnati. Like he'd like just stop trying. I don't even think he mailed it in. He mailed it in like crazy like I. I couldn't figure out why he left tech to Cincinnati in the first place anyways but like he just disappeared when I was going to be a senator in Alabama by lasco around remember. These are completely random place Just took him off the my memory. Two Thousand Fifteen. Arkansas was in a game against an SEC rival very hotly contested game they had four th and twenty five four down twenty five yards to go and throw it up to Hunter Henry like thirty. He threw it backwards. I remember playing Alice. Collins picks it up any runs through the ninety runs inside the fifteen. And later they would score a touchdown before twenty five or if you look at who they were playing Mississippi state. No no no no. They didn't beat Maceda here. They be this same though. They beat this team to sleep. What final score fifty. Three Arkansas fifty. Two Oh mess mess. A four fourth and twenty five almost would've won the West if they have that play not happen. So thank you. Hunter Henry and outs Collins. They didn't beat Mississippi State. That here in two thousand fifteen. Yeah absolutely not. We still a deck. In fact that year was weird. They beat almost fifty three fifty two and Mississippi state went to Arkansas. Beat Arkansas fifty one to fifty. That's right okay. I knew there was something weird with the back. I don't know if it's back to back weeks but very close they went one point. Fifty Point one point win one point lawsuit was that. Prep Bela's last year. I think sixteen was his last year. I think he's getting about one more year. Okay got it feels like that was forever go wrong Kosan. Moore's only got two years. So yeah he definitely came about one more year. Yeah that's right I got my I feel like I'm like forty five years old right now. Okay my last one do what would you say it? W fucking asshole or fun. All right. He won best wide receiver in the year. Two thousand he played at Pittsburgh and he is quite the asshole in the news. These days played for the Pittsburgh steelers. No I think you. I think you're confusing to people. You're confused I am excuse me up later. I got you now Antonio Brown. Did He win it? He didn't want he played in school? I know I know but what you're doing it. You didn't win it. Antonio Bryant is round definitely one. The BELINDA COFFEE DID NOT. I promise you know so but I think that happens. You just confusing Antonio on that one but Antonio Brown definitely one. The bulletin cough. I don't know what you want from me Casey. Win The damn thing uses punt. Returner wasn't very good. Music was good but he wasn't like National good he was like a good Mac receiver by remember correctly. God I just created the Cardinal Sin of of messing up those names in my brain opposed to tonio at one time. What did you tell you? Brian also will say some weird shit on on twitter sometimes too but you know that Antonio Bryant that account that you remember like who he he interacts with all like barshop buckle. Yeah he liked the MD all the time. But there's some rumors out there not one hundred percent sure about them but that that's not actually Antonio Bryant like somehow some way somebody has controlled that account and for pretending to be Antonio Bryant Antonio. Brian is somewhere like living his life. And there's somebody who's just tweeting at Barcelo personalities. All Day he. He was a big listener. God this is crazy. I mean that's probably why was must have been my brain. He was a big comeback season listener and he would like. Dm me about all the time. And then wasn't he talking shit about Johnny on twitter for a while this. This guy was apparently like a really weird like mid aged guy who ran like one of those fake agencies in picked up some random players and then Antonio Bryant was the guy that like put on top and used as account. I duNno very change. Well my bad sorry Antonio Bryant. You're not a big asshole Nice he won. He was best wide receiver in two thousand. He played at Pitt He just so happens. Seven name very close Antonio Brown who happens to also be an asshole instead when you said pit. I thought another because he's not the only winner from pit. There was another what year three. Joey Larry Fin- Fitzgerald. Yeah all right mack go ahead. I'm sorry use Mac. I'm back John John. Because my real name strong definitely not calling you by your real name. Okay speaking of names. I'm doing an audible names. That get messed up. There was a guy who played running back for school in that is now a pretty good deal one program but was in. Fcs exact same name as a one of the greatest running backs of all time and he set records in the F. C. S. O. J. You should know this one. Why is what's happening? What's he doing? What's fucking doing. Oh it's so close you want another clue I will make up. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Okay the school that he wanted to is known for the triple option. And it's not a military academy does nothing for me as Georgia southern Georgia Southern Yup. My God out. Just do it. Who is it Adrian? Peterson is a funny enough How can we fuck that up? Funny enough there is a guy who's pretty good in the NFL. Now he was rookie. This year chase Edmunds. He went to Fordham. I was there at the same time and he was about to set the FCS rushing record and the school was confused and they put like the newspaper and stuff. Four running back about to break Adrian Peterson's record and they use photos of Oklahoma Adrian. Peterson likes and but I was the only I was like showing to my friends I was like they have to be. This isn't true like this isn't a thing and then I remembered because he ended up that guy actually ended up playing in the NFL. Wait for the bears A like Who would have thought they were around the same time like Msci Thousands and then obviously Adrian? But that's a really tough name to be to be to share to be honest. Joey. Finish off all right. I don't think there's any chance that you guys are GonNa get this one trying to give you. It was mini clues. Can't maybe brandon about to say now that you've done this. It's a challenge that he's accepted like I said when it comes to trivia steak step back because brandon has his entire identity wrapped up in Trivia. So don't Oh. Oh it's like when this huge crack dealership when this guy was planning and I was like nine years old. You know so for me. I'm like I'll be tough people to get but brandon offense. You know you're probably popping up on your bottom feed your thirty. He was thirty. He was thirty when John. Okay okay okay. Big Ten receiver early two thousands on my pretty boilermakers put up record. Not Maybe he put up huge numbers of senior year. In two thousand four touchdown allies. The White Guy. Don't believe so you fifty fifty chance there brandon nine safety back. Then answer Taylor no it. I don't know Joey. You got me your brandon. Just keep going you keep going. Sorry my dogs at Seoul's eggs done anybody's outside. They freak out and then okay. You're right there dude. You're right there you have in the first name right. I'll give you that. I don't remember his last name off. Top my head Taylor. Stubblefield evens out eastward Got Sixteen touchdowns a senior year. Purdue two thousand four time. Isn't it beautiful to look down and like jet? First of all dogs can interrupt the broadcast anytime Joe. He's got the dogs and Brandon's doing this and you and I are just sitting back like in our peaceful little spaces it is. It's I I will say though. The I've thought about brandon lot this week nine weird way but that my roommate's did take the xbox so like and then. I thought you job. Can She post that tweet? You're playing like two thousand six. Nc Double Eight football exponentially. And I've there's been moments I've been like. I wish I could play but I mean I guess I could just order like a fifty dollar. Xbox three sixty minute would probably come but so my station. Threes got to be. I think it's in the garage and I've wanted to get it out and players don't have the mo the momentum to get it. I just don't have do anything at home all day. It's easy to not do anything at home. Oh I agree I agree with that. I've I've thought for the last ten days like I should really go through my closet and get rid of a lot of clothes that I don't wear to open up space for all the online shopping. I will inevitably be doing while. I'm stuck in my apartment and I just don't want to do it. I have no idea why I just look at it every day and say well. I'll do it tomorrow. I'M NOT GONNA do it tomorrow. All right you already. We're kind of dragging here. The random players took a little longer. Although I thought it was interesting the whole time. I'm Joe you're going to hang with us. You WanNA stick with us or do you need to go. Don't yeah man. I'm here okay. Good good quarantine brandon all right. It's almost time for the two minute drill but Jack you know what else only takes two minutes. I think I do probably do. It takes only two minutes for Hawthorn to tell you how to smell good every single day and let me. Tell You Jack. It's very important to smell good everyday or life especially like even when I like. You're around people now you may. You may be stinking. Being in a quarantine is no excuse to smell bat. Absolutely not especially if you're quarantined with your girl or whoever you're with listen. Hawthorne has got you covered and all I said it only takes two minutes to go on and they'll tell you your best colognes one for work and one for play and right now in the quarantine Jack. I don't know which ones work. I don't know which ones play on matter. You still need to smell good. You can pick your like you experiment. Maybe do play in the morning one day and then work at night or go. Who knows see what fancies your significant other? Maybe like maybe like oh I feel like I wanNA play today. Let's see if I can spice it up a little bit. And hawthorn knows the exact set for your body when you take that quiz to do that maybe spice up the romance a Little Bit Jack Yours. No rules right now. Look outside and you can't smell bad. That's the thing it's like hogwarts like listen. You can't go outside but you can't smell bad. Don't put on that old shit from high school fellas listen to me. I've gotten this for the men in my life. I'm telling you that it works it. Spices up your relationship. It makes you smell better. And if you take that two minutes literally. Two minutes quiz not only. Can you get Cologne? They've got personalized skin-care. They've got face cleanser face lotion. And it's all tailored to your skin type and your needs so if you go to Hawthorn at Hawthorn dot co that's Hawthorne with an e and Use our Promo Code Walker. You'll get ten percent off your first purchase. That's H. W. T. H. O. R. N. E. DOT CO and use the Code Walker at ten percent off your first purchase. Hawthorne Darko because you need to smell good no matter what and trust me. The women in your life will thank you. I'll ask a question. We'll let Casey answer first. And then we'll Casey Joa Jack Number one. This comes from only chassis. Forty two and he says what do you miss? Most now that you're in quarantine and can't go out into the world. I haven't really sat answer. Oh dear ready ready for get a little violin out. Here's really really miss hugging people. Oh no you don't so you elegant back and forth on that listen and I say obviously I'm being a little bit dramatic but it is a log on. I love hugging. I'm from I'm from Texas. You're from the south brain and you understand but it's also just more of like the bigger picture of the idea that just like human touch is actually something that people need and the fact that I can't have that right now because I can't go outside Manhattan because everybody in this godforsaken city has the krona virus right now. I would love to just fucking hug. Somebody order some delivery now gets there. Just give a fucking just I mean squeezes squeezes titze. Just give him a hung. See that's the thing and this is more again. I'M GONNA keep making this even more pathetic I want to be hugged. I don't necessarily like want to squeeze somebody like I want to like be hugged what I want to see. You're going to get so many deums of guys saying like all right here next week. We'll have to do branding. Reed's Casey cases dams part three. Because the shit that has been in my inbox during this quarantine is wild warning. It is kind of long hair to read some coach or something. God yes absolutely. That'd be that'd be good. All right joins same question. What do you miss now that we're in quarantine and you can't go out anymore? What do you miss about life? I miss like random Tuesday night going to a pub and like there's like seven people there but I mean you're not trying to get like super drunk but you're like you know if I have four maybe that's like there's nothing like a weekend out. Everybody will be like. Oh this is going to the on the weekends now. No no I'm talking like I said like a Tuesday night Wednesday night random. Nba Games on your having like three three and a half. Maybe four calling tonight that that's what I live for. Those are such good night's really make them for granted you know like you'd never know you never thought those would be taken away like you over kind of the the Rangers all the time. I mean every once in a while once fine but you're like I don't need to go out and be wall to wall of people I would just like to go sit at a bar and have a cocktail. I didn't make. That's my favorite to my wife as my cat boom. That's the best. Damn that's quarantined and take their for me inside. But there's something about being a low carb saying the quarantine didn't take that for me to. The kids took that from me years ago so I could not all of us have seventeen children that Jack. What are you miss? The most? It's GonNa be a conspiracy about how the government's giving us all corona virus. Would I was going to say that like I miss the office and they like you walking around and like being mean to everybody. That's not true. I don't do that you you you you go around. And you'd be means like you'll say something mean like in good spirit though. Oh Yeah Yeah something like your boss. Right. You'll bus halse. Yeah you're all in then you'll say something that Jack he'll say something. Big T and then big t will get all riled up and then so. I missed like the little things like that. I'll tell you what I don't miss. I don't Miss Getting on the train every day Okay that's fair. I don't Miss Spending Twenty five dollars for lunch every day. I don't But I I miss just getting out of the house. I just like when you're stuck with six people and you just want to be by yourself for awhile which my wife does a great job. Let me have that. She gives me all the time. But it's it's tough. It's tough people all right next question. From Kyle Wilson. He says you can go back in time and change one moment. That happened to your team whether it's a coaching. Change losing out on recruit or specific playing a game. What do you Change Casey? I know texting history. You have a lot of moments you need to change but what sticks out two thousand twelve college football season when one. Johnny Manziel won the Heisman trophy. The season opener they were playing Florida. It was also an ems home. Sec opener and a kicker which name I refuse to ever say. He missed a field goal in that game that caused them to start the season with a loss. And when you go back and watch that two thousand twelve season they happened upset Alabama at number one and they ended up not making it to a BCS bowl because they lost that game and they ended up losing to Lsu as well those were their two losses that season and it was all because of a field goal kicker. So I would go back and I would either take that field goals kicker and make his leg better or remove him off the planet and put somebody better in his place. Wow you're rotating you're like Hitler No. I know I will not accept that answer no but in reality like I'll go back and I know it's never just the kicker's fault but it's easy to blame a college football kicker when you look back at that season and that was my first season out of school. I was covering am locally. You can actually pinpoint the fact that if they would have had a better kicker they probably would have been playing for a national title. That you're Joan. What about you? You'RE GONNA go back and change the Bush you're going to get rid of Reggie Bush. I am going back to that game. However I'm going back to a play three place prior to that in which it was a man they just sacked liner and so it was like a third and I wanted to say like eighteen. Eighteen liner dumps. It Down Reggie Bush. Reggie Bush somehow scrambles around to be able to get at nine yards. Makes it a little bit more manageable? Enforce the nine there for to jared down the sideline Sto. I'm not going to change the fourth of nine play because I was just perfect execution done third eighteen. Not Letting Reggie Bush pick up enough to get to be a manageable. Fourth-down distance keep it like fourth and fifteen there. I think Notre Dame Wins Game Jack Irrelevant Yukon. Game Changing I thought I I'm not hiring. Paul Pass Colonie. That's the biggest misstep in football history. And I will go back to two thousand fourteen Mississippi state nine and going to Tuscaloosa you beat Tuscaloosa. You beat Alabama that day. You go the playoff Mississippi state behind nineteen to three ended up losing twenty five twenty to this day. I maintain had better quarterback had the better team just couldn't win in Tuscaloosa. The data's no shame in that album as a lot of people but I will go back and change that Mississippi state number one for the first time in history. It ended that day I would like to reverse that and make it not in. That would be my. Let's see it is very sad? It's sad that we all had those answers right away like it's like we haven't made this forever seven or eight. I know I know me too. I mean the fact that it would but it was just all of us. Just pop pop pop. It's like again. That's why college football so great because for the rest of our lives will be thinking about those moments. If I love you answer will you stop talking talking to children by the way not us come here definitely was not speaking to any of US number three? What is the best movie? You've never? What is the best movie you have ever seen that you would never watch again? Oh Wow the best movie you've ever seen. I will lead off. Yeah go ahead because I have to think about this one because there's a movie that I watched I. It was amazing. It was great but I never would watch. I would skip saying never watch it in full after. And that is saving private Ryan. I watched it once in the movie with bullets flying around and it was one hundred percent unbelievable. But it's just not a movie. I WanNa live and its entirety again. I would say Shawshank redemption. It's one of those. I know I was the most responsible movie there is. I don't get me wrong. I don't do it to you every Sunday. I don't watch t every Sunday Brandon. I loved Shawshank Redemption. I've only seen at one time ever and I can't picture myself being like you know what I think. I'm going to sit down and we watch that every time you watch it but I like saving private Ryan Like I. Obviously it's very heavy and it's dark but I feel like was Shawshank. I saw it. I watched it. I enjoyed it. It's one of the greatest movies of all time. I don't see myself rewatching it. I can't I can't not want Shawshank during quarantine give it a second watch. Okay you'll be again. This is the best the best movie I've ever seen that I just don't see myself watching. I just have never watched it. Maybe I should you know what I'll do that for joy. I will do that. I Will re-watch it comes on the show and makes a request and also. I'll do that if I assure you. Tell me to go fuck myself. Because he's nice to me and you're not Guy Joey. What's the best movie you've ever seen that you would never ever watch again? This is going to be like sacrilegious. Burn Italian guy but I'm GonNa go with the Godfather your original Godfather. Ooh Reginald always once I love wants to late movie all time classic film. But you know it's not some pop that one and that'll be a nice casual view. I mean and if you think about like all three of the movies that we just mentioned are Alzheimer's I mean there's some of the best movies of all time that doesn't necessarily mean you want to rewatch him. Godfather goodfellas watch at once a week for Spirit Godfather original father good. I've Seen Jack I would go with heat the Bill Maher Al Pacino. Yup I remember it as this great movie but I haven't seen it in. I think about like five to six years sheriff. I re watched it. There would be like. I think it's definitely movie with its flaws because I mean if you didn't think it was the first movie ever that Deniro and Pacino were onscreen together ever because obviously godfather to you had them but separate times I think they probably has flaws in. It would kind of run it for me. So I'M GONNA go with heat. I think of the Irishman. I never saw it. I liked it. Okay make it through here Corentin. Does he watch the Irishman jaw? I I got about an hour ten in and then my wife is like I can't do this. It's just not something's missing from it and I don't know what it is. It's super super long right. It's super long. I think what what is missing from. What takes you out of? The movie is the fact that they don't use a younger actor for younger too narrow. They just put makeup on him. And and you have to pretend these a twenty year old. Yeah that was a lot of people. Talk Shit about that all right. Let's see a couple more questions number four. If you're going to die and you could go to one final sporting event before you died. Which one would you go to a money and travel. Do not matter so I'm GonNa take any college football off the table because obviously that's what all four of us would choose so let's say college football fan. I'm off the table. I would choose the masters. That's the number one thing on my bucket list. I want to go to Augusta national but I will say if money's not a thing I'm not trying to walk around the grounds and follow people. I'm trying to get the top of the line. Vip experience at Augusta National Master. Sunday maybe in some fairway chalet. I don't know what they do there. But that's what I would want to do is go see the masters with all the money in the world. Giving me the best experience Joey. I'm going to keep it in my native worm from here and I've been to this event Casey says if the money's no object I need to be at the five hundred riot at the yard of bricks in the pagoda. Air Condition Best Food in the house. for the greatest spectacle in racing. And I get the best view. I'M GONNA go with that. That's the key here no matter. What sporting event you choose. If money's no object is like you want to experience the way that like a cane would experience it right. So it's like if it's the indy five hundred you've been there before you want to experience the way that like the best experience can be. Don't need along Donnie. Turn to now now. I'm here for it Jack. I would pick cage side in absolutely stacked UFC card. If I can't if I'm about dying it's not a good UFC event. And there's not like heavyweight championships. I would probably do similar to Casey. But not do the master's I would do the Kentucky Derby or maybe like Santa Anita are somewhere like Voicing Different off a number one. It's not sporting event but wrestlemainia it has to be mentioned and number two I would do if money's no object. I travel around the world and I require a front row seat to every event. I WANNA go to would be VIP treatment to watch the Summer Olympics. Okay I I love the Olympics. I love everything about the Olympics. I've never experienced them. I would love to be able to front row at every gold medal event. And just just watch it. What's your favorite Summer Olympic event? It's oddly like men's volleyball. Oh you never see that. Play at a high level but when you see a plane at a high level. It's an impressive sport. Oh super impressive there. You could have given me ten guesses and I would have guessed that they don't actually play you don't see on TV here. There's no league. They don't play in college but in that level at the international level. It's just like this. Big Six eight guys hitting the ball ninety miles an hour. It's incredible won't he? He was like he thought we were going to judge him. But we can't now. I think the Olympics I loved penises everywhere. I just love it Jack. Mark that down and you know it'd be a good answer. The World Cup I think would be a lot of the world. Cup would be great but not in Brazil with those dreams. Brazil lose allies were in Brazil yesterday. Whatever fine of two thousand ten the Booze Airlines? I was working in the Central Africa. Wherever I'll tell you what I worked at a an English pub in two thousand ten named Fox and Hound. We opened every morning at six. Am and we closed every day at two am and I can hear those Godforsaken fucking Zales in my nightmares. And I know that they were. That's what they were illegal for Brazil but the worst sound in the history of sports the worst all right last question you can have only one food group for the rest of quarantine you choose a Italian be Mexican see Barbecue R D other. Oh that's so hard but it has to be another food group. You can't just say other and say we'll solve other foods. Okay so a Italian be Mexican see barbecue are other can I? Can I ask a question you know? Is it just where we're living like? Do I have to New York City Barbecue or if this is just anywhere. I think. This is just an overarching question than I would. I would do barbecue because and I love Italian and I love Mexican and I love every other kind of food love Asian food but I feel like with barbecue especially down in the south and in Texas you can get so many different arrays of things and I can eat healthy with barbecue. How the hell are you gonna eat healthy whereby you like a Turkey? You get some good green beans with a little bacon in it. You get some baked beans. Which aren't that bad for you and get some collared Greens moving. You're saying it's helping. That's that can all be very healthy. A lean lean smoked Turkey. Guest Green beans can be healthy if you fire up the grill for me and what you present me as Turkey. I'm a slap in the face. Well Yeah I mean okay. Let me put it this way. It's better than eating a bowl of fucking pasta every single day. Not necessarily health wise. Yes it is. I'm not frying everything on where we can't take care about my health potato salad. I mean no. I'm just saying if I had to. I don't want to come out of this. Quarantine being fat and disgusting. I also love potatoes and I can't have potatoes with Italian. I can't have potatoes. I guess you can with Mexican a little bit but give me potato salad mashed potatoes. Whatever you can with with barbecue joint talking yourself into that one case the health stuff but that's okay on each their own Italian hands down. I mean other. It's pasta pizza every night. I'm going to be fat but like Brandon's Ed's Corentin. We're all miserable. So let's just load holding you talion Christmas vacation reference. There also Italian a lot deeper than just pizza and Pasta. Italians a lot deeper than that for sure. But I mean that's that's the go-to but that's what I'm saying that Casey cases you sake barbecue Italians a lot deeper than barbecue barbecue now. I don't think that I could because there's so many different options even just say there's more Italian options. He Spaghetti Pizza her but see. Here's my thing here's my thing with with barbecue. Is that you start. Like if you're in Texas you get Texas Barbecue Tennessee. You're getting Tennessee Barbecue. If you go to South Carolina you can start mixing it all on one team. You can't go anywhere boulevard Manhattan. Then we're in Manhattan. Oh like scratch my answer from the board if I have to order from Manhattan. It's ten out of ten. Ten out of ten barbecue in New York. City is not good. Okay what role anymore low. It's telling you it's a time right. That's that's what I was. GonNa say an Italian I mean Brennan's a hundred percent right. If if you think just pasta and Dita we gotta we gotta take you some real Italian restaurants the pastas good pizza. I guess but like chicken. Parm Vilkov arm eggplant. Like I've had some very good stakeout Italian restaurant so you do everything I mean if I could go sit at Borelli's just sit there for the rest. I would do it you see. I'm a great like pick. One restaurant For Quarantine Bryce Brandon. Have you been rallies yet? I've not been to burroughs. I need to go so good. We should take a field trip whenever this ships over on. Long Island. Yeah East Beto all right. Those are questions. That's a two minute drill. This was a longer show. But that's okay because we added Joey it was nice. I have a good time joy. I appreciate you coming. There was awesome. Was thanks guys a lot of fun again soon looking towards college football obviously you know whatever whenever you WANNA pop in. Just do it whenever you want to do. Co. Joe Whatever just wasn't the idea of him reading my DM's as coach is phenomenal. I don't know once. He said that I realized I might not ever read your. Dm's again if we do that. There's a toothpaste back in the tube. It's not as interesting. I do know I mean it's just it's already such an interesting segment as it is because you really get to see the deep minds of guys who people. It's not just me. I can only imagine what everybody's DM's look like but you get that coach flavor on it game over go home. Get Ready Casey. Whether it's him whether it's me we're reading your next week. Oh God okay I mean. I can't wait the amount and you know what we could actually even just keep it to just DM's about the corona virus because people have gotten very creative on how they would like to contract corona virus from girls on the Internet. This is going to be good. You brace yourself sir. All right. That's Casey Smith's Jack Mac. And that's our guest. Joey was guess he works at Barcelona so follow him. He's great. I'm GonNa Walker and this has been unnecessary that train.

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Previewing Panthers vs. Ravens, and Queen

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Previewing Panthers vs. Ravens, and Queen

"Gas, and they're like, I can't remember it was called. But it's like there's the rule is no matter what your opinion is. There is at least one personally internet, the disagrees with absolutely absolutely. Even if even if your opinion is cancer is bad. Like there's somebody who will disagree with you by tourist. Heard there you gotta out the hurt. Like, there's no opinion that safe from the internet today fans saying, Freddie, Mercury doesn't belong. Michael Jackson in France. Oh my God. You know, you know, in a way he's actually right? And real Panthers fan. If you're listening to this podcast because I hope you are you're wrong. Assuming this gets in the show you're wrong to a point. But you're also, right, Freddie. Mercury does not belong on the same level as Michael Jackson impressed because he is so far above them that they shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. He's the fucking truth. God damnit E G is the most legendary greatest vocalists that music, not just rock music, but music has ever been gifted, and that is the only correct opinion on the matter. The guy's vocal cords were literally different when he was born like and. Yeah. If you don't believe me, get on your computer and Google Queen nine hundred eighty five Live Aid concert. It's twenty one minutes. Long watched the video your life will be changed. And also keep in mind that if you do watch that Freddie, Mercury had the flu when he did that performance. And it is considered by multiple people in the music industry as they single greatest rock and roll performance by any group ever in the history of music and did. Yeah. No, like real music. Like Rolling Stone. You know, people like that have actually they consider that the greatest performance in the history of rock and roll music, and he did it with with the and flu. So. Michael Jackson didn't do that. And prince didn't do that. So. Nuff said. Welcome to keep sounding podcast. This is your SP nation. Official Carolina Panthers podcast via cat scratch reader. I'm joined by Brad, Brad. How're you doing tonight? I'm doing great. And I'm also joined by John John. How are you doing tonight? I'm doing pretty well. Good. Hopefully, you had some Queen on your on your playlist as you're coming back from work today seems like the best way to go about the end of your work day. We are here to talk about Carolina versus Baltimore on Sunday, one o'clock game against the ravens. And the last time. These teams played it was not good. But this one could be good. Maybe. The Panthers face off against a very very good defense one that sacked Marcus mariota. What like ten to twelve times or something like that eleven ten to twelve? I was right in the ballpark. Hadn't prepared my notes. I apologize for that. Go on Brian and very very underrated offense as well with Joe flacco playing with fire lit under his ass after they drafted Lamar Jackson. He's got Michael Crabtree. John Brown smother guys here and there. So there are other players on the ravens offense. So this could be this could be a tough one for the Panthers. I mean, they just came off a really playing really good defense in Philadelphia, and they'll be playing maybe even a better one as far as the front seven is concerned against the ravens. So looking at the Panthers versus the ravens defense. What are we most concerned about John I'll start with you? Joshua everything. Under pressure. I'm just gonna just gonna make Queen references all night, you might as well just deal with it. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, Terrell suggs is obviously always problem, but they're passed since it will their their defense isn't much other than that game. Never mind at twenty seven sacks. I remember reading at one point that they didn't get a lot of sex. But they were forced they're still doing great and pass defense that clearly isn't the case anymore since day of commanding lead. Over the rest of the NFL and sacks. So. Eps gonna go with everything because I don't know if there's like a like a part of this defense that's weak or that's like an obvious place to exploit. Definitely not a very complete defense. They also have Eric Weddell who thinks that Cam Newton's dinosaur. So that's they have their expectations measured which is good. They have Terrell. Suggs who is the second leading active sack leader behind or excuse me. A force fumble leader behind Julius peppers with thirty three. They have CJ Moseley in the middle. He's obviously could be a problem. Really looking at the defense. Just kind of seems like the intermediate passing game. Maybe but overall not a plus much Panthers. Brad. What are you looking at? You just got to play the game. You play to win the game is making clean reference. I know Brad probably got like the Queen just like discography pulled up right now. Skimming through for songsheet news. There's a probably five percent chance that that's accurate. Looking at the ravens defense just real quick there. I in the NFL and completion percentage allowed I in the NFL in yards fast temple out. They are second and opposing passer rating, even though they've only ended up at five passes, which is like middle of the pack. Second touchdown passes allowed and fifth lowest yards per carry allowed. So yes, kind of what the right? They have they have one vision, which is to just make other teams play the way they want them to play and just take over games. Yeah. The secondary looking at it Jimmy Smith Brennan car, Tony Jefferson, Eric Weddell. That's that's a pretty good. That's pretty good group of four there for your starting four on the defensive backside. Said fact side against the. The defensive back side of the game. You said backside again. I separated out the words back inside. Thank you will say Jimmy Brennan car and Jimmy Smith. Neither in practice on Wednesday. I don't know the Thursday injury report yet. So maybe they're. If it's not good. Yes. They're little little slowdown. That will help us a little bit. So it kind of seems like in the offense of side of the ball. The best thing they can really do is introduce a little speed and Kane DJ more twice. Good idea. Yes. Also with a hurt knee. So fun fact courtesy mule has two touchdowns on five touches on offense this year, pretty good. It's it's worth looking into. It's pretty good. Yeah. Maybe we're feeding him the ball might be worth. I have a feeling that if toy doesn't play. We'll see more Jerry's right? And roughly the same DJ more Curtis Samuel. But. I'm hopeful that we'll see more at least one of them. Yeah. I mean, I'm going slightly mad over it. Because I think we need to see more Curtis Samuel, especially because it seems like almost every time he touches the ball he scores, and that's obviously a tiny sample size. But you know, it makes sense to work him into the scheme. And I don't know why for whatever reason Ron is continuing to be stubborn about it. And it's kind of them. Oh. Veteran presence breath any more snaps for you. Get more snaps. Ron rivera. Yeah. Zachary? This Jimmy Smith practice on what's apex full all Thursday. So we're just gonna disregard that. Good. Seems good. So this seems like a team where? And I've been saying this for the last two or three weeks, but it seems like this is a team where Christian McCaffrey is gonna have to get involved in the passing it in. Because that front seven is good. They will get after the quarterback Cam needs tavist D valve, and unfortunately, Greg Olsen is not that anymore at least not to the degree. He was in years past. He had the game winning touchdown last last Sunday. But he doesn't strike me as the ten catch two touchdown tied anymore. He's the guy that they can maybe count on for maybe four or five or sections that come in the clutch. But in this game, I would expect the Christian Catholic should be heavily involved at least on the perimeter because that. That middle of the front seven of the ravens defense is very very stout. So theoretically, that's what you'd want. Ron Rivera to run. Obviously that means that Christian McCaffrey is getting the ball, the gut at least fifteen say just well as I do what we're gonna do. We're going to run the ball up the middle for two yards. A carry and C J Anderson is gonna stay over on the bench and watch the game. Like he has full blast three weeks. Come in for two snaps on a option about is just to be on the field. So we have someone the option stuff. Yep. Just in case the defense. Oh CJ Anderson's on the field. Maybe we should account for them. Because they haven't watched film over the last six weeks to really bummed out about that too. Like, he's not getting hardly any any game. At all. I mean, he's he's gotta be saying to myself. I wanna break free. Right. I mean. Little Queen reference. I mean seriously though, I mean we brought him in because he was a former thousand yard rusher. And we thought, hey, he'll be a nice compliment to Christian McCaffrey. And he hasn't hasn't played hardly at all in three weeks. And it's almost and he's not hurt. Like, it just doesn't make any sense. You know, Ronald say something like olas port of the game plan in the scheme. What kind of game plan and scheme? Do you have when you put a thousand yard rusher on the bench and don't put him in the game? Like, it doesn't talk about a game plan a scheme. Like, it's something that you can't take that. You can't like control. No, no. They've already rented. Laminated cheats. Like, you can't change. It wants to do that game. But my hands are tied wasn't in the game plan. Yeah. Well, once they do get CJ Anderson involved in the Russian game. That's the hammer to fall in my opinion. Nice. Here too. Real talk. They do need to get him involved in the power rushing game, especially against this very good front seven because it just you just eventually Christian McCaffrey is gonna get hurt. Let's be real here. Like, he's a big. He's big enough for the kind of player he is and his body size. But you run him up against out front seven. Eventually he's going to count for net. You can't keep them under pressure. Like that. I don't know. He seems like a guy. I mean, he got all those carry in college is different. But he had. An excessive workload in college in this relatively on hurt during his college career. So. I think he'll be okay. He'll be doing. All right, something like that. Good. So I'm like, well, I'm looking at the the raven. Oh, go ahead, outsiders how they had a wreck against different sketchers and their weakest spots are against. Number three wide receivers inside hymns. Bad. They're like middle of the road. Fending? Like, I would guess you'd say slot receivers to extent and titans. So. So we know the two players will not be in the game. Yeah. Funches going to get like fifteen targets. So. I mean. Real talk. I do like I do like how they've been trying to get more involved at least. He's been on the field quite a bit more. He's had some action in the running game. As far as like a. Diversionary option. I would hope to see more of that, especially, you know, somehow, Ron Rivera comes to his senses and goes with what we were talking about our last podcast. They use guys like DJ more on Curtis Samuel in the no huddle where don't really have to change up personnel that much just move them around and forced the defense to keep the same personnel field seems like a great idea in practice. But they don't do this so games at least get just for digit more. I think you can keep building off of that. We'll get three catching his is four targets five targets. Like, all right. We got him involved. It's gonna matter. He's involved on wanna give him too much volume than what the defense keying on them or anything. Now, never never. So looking at the defensive side of the ball. Obviously the Panthers just had quite a bad game against the eagles offense and they face somewhat similar matchup. Michael crabtree. Who will probably see a heck of a lot of James Bradbury on Sunday. On top of that John Brown, who's probably maybe one of the only players in the NFL who can go step for step with Dante Jackson, maybe even better. Alongside willie. Steed tight end. They have Nick boil max Williams. This offense is very very underrated in my opinion like flack playing well. They've been playing welded and putting up points. This doesn't seem like one of those hapless ravens often seen over the last few crazy. What happens when you surround your quarterback playmakers? Like what it does for the offense? They're rushing game. Hasn't been is good this year. But. Just to do this for football outsiders again because I already have the webpage. Hold up last year. They were twenty six twenty six best passing team in the NFL and the off season they signed Michael Crabtree. John Brown release need. And now they are seventh their the seventh best bass offense in the NFL. Just it's amazing. What a competent. None of them are like what you'd call my definitive number one wide receivers. John Brown's been their number one receiver and it works just because they have so much such good like versatile skill set. Among the the group they will complement each other. Well. You have Crabtree. Who's like, the all Sean Jeffrey type you have the job round. And take the top off the defense Willie. Snead's goodness lot. I may pretty much assembled all those pieces in the off season. It's amazing. What happens when your general manager? Commits to assembling town round your quarterback and using them to sure it also helps Joe flacco realizes that. He is he's mortal. He's not a permanent fixture behind the backfield. He almost seems like he he caught the Nick full syndrome where he's like I'm gonna frigging slinging because this may be my last season as a quarterback and that's dangerous. I mean, we saw with the eagles and flacco seems to playing a lot of the same way. Very Chuck in the ball down the field, not really worrying about turnover so much which good or bad thing. But in this case working out for them. So I do want to say on that point even with Lamar I was just going to. I just want to say one thing. Lamar Jackson seems to come in in the red zone too. So that's even more motivation for Joe flacco losing snaps in the scoring the meat and potatoes plays that you want is a quarterback. So I could definitely see why he's motivated. But yeah, I say about the turnovers he's only four sections this year, which is very good, especially by his standards. But I do think there's opportunity there. He is. But he is one of the more aggressive quarterbacks in the NFL this year one two three. One two three. Is eighth on this on next gen stats? He's got these eighth most aggressive quarterback in terms of throwing a tight windows. You know, good throwing close to close defenders. Also the. Most of these lease accurate. Secondly, accurate quarterback start all their games. Thirdly, accurate in terms of his completion percentage. Relative to is expected completion percentage. So he still going to tight windows. He hasn't been super accurate as of wedding interceptions. So I do think there's a chance editors aggression coming at some point. We're like maybe he's due for like three or four interceptions game. Maybe. Well, the good news is that Carolina's defense has been very close to batting balls away over the last few weeks. So those have been some tight windows throw into. So maybe he'll throw off to the side a little bit and allows men are sections. I mean, Dante Jackson certainly could get some more to make his case to be rookie of the year on defense. That'd be nice. That'd be super cool. In my opinion. I agree with your pin? But but the ravens definitely also seemed like a team who's going to try and establish the run and this defense so far has still struggled against the run at times. Like the eagles. Really? They did. Well, running the ball. But they didn't stay with it, which I thought was interesting where I think the ravens, especially the John Harvey. Had a good run. A couple of runs in the beginning to kind of put the. Going but the pay there's buckled down like the eagles averaging like three yards carry or less than three are to carry. It was not a lot. But I hope Baltimore six run. They've been bad at it. This year. Yet. What worries me is just like this defense is uncharacteristically giving up a lot of chunk runs. Every that's kind of what concerns me and outs. Collins is good it. He hasn't really this year. But last year he showed. A definite ability hit a home run hitter. Like five yards a carry. Do you have any opinions on that? Give any pennies on that. Brad. You'd like share with the rest of the classroom. I mean, you pretty much covered my opinion. You know, I don't think they're going to run too much though. I think we're going to see a an era doubt game. I think it might even turn into like a bicycle race. Where both teams are just flying on all cylinders. I would think if the. Gainey through the like, the the Queen song list trying to think of other ways to work in the. Oh, man. I would think if Carolina is actually, you know, doing well on offense that this would be a better game for them. And it would be if the ravens because we saw how dangerous the offense can be when they are flying all cylinders doing everything, right? Gives you too much killing opinion. It's true. All I'm saying is that this offense continues to to blast through defenses in the fourth quarter. We might be saying, we are the champions the vamon city. So. There's no way to work at one end. So. No. Real talk. If the offense like finally came a wake against the eagles in the fourth quarter last week, and we saw Cam, I forget who said it may have been Eric. But he said when Cam Newton's completing passes jumping in the air on fourth in ten and getting clocked. That's you know, it's over at that point. And I felt that was very true because Cam Newton was on. And I'm curious to see becomes in this game. And he's just on again. Because if he is this long game for the ravens. Especially if we let him do that from the start. I do like all of the office of players being like yet. We're real good in the hurry up. No offense. Like, we're really good at it guys. And then Ron Ron is like, well, we're not gonna make that or identity. You know, nobody saying you have to run it all the time. You know, we're not saying you have to turn into chip Kelly. We're just saying, hey, you know. Terrell. Suggs had to come out because he had to put his shoe back on run the no huddle offense. So he can't come back into the game. Like, it's not it's not that hard. Like, you don't have to do it all the time and don't do it predictably like don't do it. Every time you force a three and out or at the beginning of a quarter, or you know, things like that makes it up a little bit, you know, reach into that bag of tricks and pull one out, you know, it it's okay to go off script. We're on you lose your job if you and if you have a game plan, and you decide in the middle of the game. Hey, you know, what we're gonna do something different? You know, David peppers, not gonna fire. You. On top of that. Like this idea that they need to run the no huddle all the time is not necessarily true. I mean like you can start a drive off especially if you're starting off with the first the first snap of the game or the second half for step. You can start the game off with with the no huddle just to establish a little bit of a temp especially with Cam Newton is very he's very Defoe basing its getting a rhythm. So like, it's okay to start a drive off. And then not new the no huddle the entire time. But it's a certain kind of magic for one. Cam Newton is when Cam Newton is on and you allow him to start and get a tempo run the ball a little bit. And he can take over a game from the get-go. I don't know why. 'cause you gotta stay. You got to control. It's heaven for everyone. Then for everyone does that. Does that? Got to win that time of possession. Just spread your wager on just spread your wings. It's all I'm saying. Save save me run to save me. Beyond top of that. If they're going to run the ball, maybe run behind the right side. A little more often. Like, I remember seeing that the left side was somewhere where they ran the ball much better in the beginning of the season. That's probably because Taylor was over there. Let's run the ball on the right side will more now that Taylor mountains over there. And try Turner's over there to my opinion. Maybe I think we should also let C J Anderson at home too. But I can't remember. That would also be nice even even arma Alex Armagh like it's almost like Ron doesn't realize that it's not illegal to put CJ Anderson Christian McCaffrey on the field at the same time. It's not a penalty to do that. You can do that. He's like. Think we need to save more like more Christian McCaffrey in the slot lineup. Brian talked about that recently. And that would kind of be like the way to do that procedure innocent on the field from caffeine wide receiver. Maybe toys Smith hurt. That's something we go to but. I don't know. Now, it's kind of maddening to me. 'cause like you have a guy who could have been drafted in the first round for simply his receiving pedigree. And they still refuse to put him in the slot. They just keep throwing granted last week. He did well out of the backfield. So I'm not gonna take that away from them as far as like if that was their game plan is to keep Christian McCaffrey in the backfield. But this week against the ravens defense that chews up the run and gets after your quarterback. It's like, okay, I get it. Christian McCaffrey is better at passed protecting the used to be but come on man like. Get more weapons on the field. There's nothing wrong with having too many weapons on the field. If you can get the ball out in time like there's nothing wrong with having McCaffrey running Drager a slant over the middle and having C J Anderson run. Maybe an option pass block route and Curtis Samuel running a reverse or running something deep down the field. There's nothing wrong with that. They all have the ability to catch the ball and do something with it. Why not put those kind of players on the field together. Just doesn't make sense. I'm looking at you're talking about Brian with the rushing success. At sharp football stats. Christian guy will the Panthers general. But as I say premature Christian McCaffrey sixty seven percent success rate running outside of the right? Sixty seven percent success rate running at the right tackle. And then. Looking on the left side wave zero percent success rate running over left guard as European success rate running left tackle and twenty five percents success rate running outside the left, so yeah. The right side teams like the way to go, which I said makes sense. Taylor moton. Trae Turner, also Taylor Moton has definitely stabbed himself as as least the top fifteen. Right. Tackle is that fair to say. I think at least very heavy emphasis on least. Yeah. He's good which interesting miss interesting. There. Williams is ready to come back. Yes. He's been kind of forgotten. Somebody asked about that in our in our group, or I shouldn't say group are post today about the podcast. They wanted us to go over the first round picks over the last few years. I felt those little early for that. And then they mentioned something about what what the real situation will be one Daryl Williams returns and. I don't know. I mean like. If Matt Kalil wasn't going to be on the roster next year for sure I think maybe they try to bring Williams back. But it almost seems like it's counterproductive at this point. Especially when they got a sign maybe Devin funchess indefinitely Cam Newton. The next few years. Maybe also very slow on that Cam Newton gay. Maybe shack Thompson to mean. Yeah. I think that ideal situation. That's what I think Moton at left tackle Williams at right? Tackle, right. Correct. It's a lot of money shown out for tackled. Oh, these for the ship because you'd think like Daryl Williams and Ryan Kalil and trae Turner a lot of money these showing those three positions, especially when. You know to plan of Saint position. So that could be a problem. Mardi harney. Go ahead. We're gonna say the same thing about the same. Mardi harney's. If he's still around is going to have a lot of tough decisions on his head. I was gonna say. He's he's okay with you know, let guys walk. He's not the mardi her knee of old of any contracts everybody. So if it Moton Kiessling well since we're kind of stuck with Galil release one more year. I wouldn't be surprised if he's like because like you said there's a lot of. You know, cafes contribute to to commit to the office of line. So I wouldn't be surprised if they're Williams walks, especially when you have two more years of Taylor Moton, at least, you know. Like yet bargain basement. There's no reason to offer Daryl Williams a lot of money, especially when you have guys like Erick read you wanna sign back. You know? Yes. Torrey smith. Definitely toy Smith. Or C J Anderson, especially if you can get him at team friendly contract five million dollars for an NFL number three wide receiver. That's a that's a steal in two thousand eighteen dollars. The reasonable five-billion-dollar contract. I do think that is that a fair value for someone of his caliber considering like what we saw in the free agent market like Paul Richardson, getting eight million dollars year Sammy Watkins getting like fourteen million and so on so forth. Yeah. If Paul Richardson's worth eight million dollars. You can't convince me that Torrey Smith isn't worth five million dollars. Like, it's just you guys literally seamy arguing about this in cash for your comments since March Torrey Smith is worth five million dollars. I don't care what you think of Torrey Smith in the free agent market five million dollars for any free receiver. Who's worth a damn is a bargain, and I've been yours act and yelling about it via text since I've been until I was blue in the face and people still said Torrey Smith is worth is being paid too much. Guess what? He's fucking beeping the Panthers. The Panthers still let him play for us. Yeah. Of course, it always makes me laugh when people say stuff like that. He's not worth it. You know, it's not like we have to pay Torrey Smith like when you go to a game the money that you're giving them it. It's not like you have to put an extra twenty dollars in a bucket that goes to Torrey Smith, so. It doesn't matter if. If the five million is if it's five million or fifteen million, you know, you're not paying so just enjoy it because he's worth five million dollars. I've just been imagining since you said that them passing around the Tory donation jar at Panthers games. I mean, I haven't been to panther's game. So maybe they do that. I don't know. Maybe they pass around bojangles bucket with with Torrey Smith written on it and sharpy in that it actually gets paid. It's actually two paces of tape and it says Steve Smith, but the Steve part is crossed out over it's written in a different color of marker, Tori. To try and pull that actually. Yeah. I think that would happen. Sounds legit. Guys. I have some good news. Yeah. Sorry. I came excellent my headset. Where would you say we're weakest in our past offense in terms of area of the field. Probably the middle. Yeah. I would say the middle or wherever Colin Jones is which is usually the middle of the bench. My. Joe flacco this year is a has a thirty nine point six passer rating on deep passes in the middle of the field and a seventy eight point three seven eight point three passer rating on passes in intermediate area. The middle of the field. Those are below that sucks because whatever their sucks because whatever your day on top of that. It's because whenever Eric Reed actually picks them off the NFL's gonna find a way to turn it over. Exactly. He's got to get clear interception rate. Just like it's like a catch and run and referees just gonna panic and throw a flag. It'd be a pick six, and I tell you it's going to be a pick six and they're gonna throw a bullshit flag on something like hands to the face. It'll be taunting because they're just going to throw a flag into skull. It'll be taunting because he got up with the ball vigor and tried to run with it. That'll be taunting. Now, they're gonna call like a illegal contact illegal contact penalty as the receiver bumped the referee. Just every like the moment. Air interception. We're gonna see like six flags field. Yeah. Six flags and they're gonna throw the hat to because. Gotta make sure we see it. Raining official project. You're in Steeler stadium with all the fucking yellow towels are going up in the air. One thing we haven't talked about. And I think it's a legitimate question considering who were playing this week is Joe flacco elite. You want to say something? Makes you think in fact, how many players on this roster von Super Bowl. Tori. Exactly played with Joe flacco there for making Joe flacco elite. He didn't win with Joe flacco duty is he owned the Ray. He's absolutely did. Yes. Okay. That was Doug. So he's got to. Yup. He makes that quarterback better. Roy Smith wins Super Bowls Torrey Smith makes his quarterback better by profit. I I don't know why Panthers fans are so pissed about his five million dollar contract. I see. No. I mean, I would pay five million dollars to win a Super Bowl I would too. If I ask five million dollars. I will pay five million dollars out of David tempers pockets when I will to let's all sealed every notice on all just buy lottery tickets. I'm sure we can make it happen. Are two dollars. Let's go. Let's fire selves a Super Bowl ring. Let's do it. We can make it happen. I swear. Of course. So moving onto scoring projections. I'll start with John. What do you think is going to happen? This sunday. Since I was right last. Yeah. That was the only one that was right last week for you, buddy. That's you were right for three quarters. I hope you take hope you make yourself a nice nice strong mixed drink your Tiki bar in your room for that victory. I'm gonna keep ticking. The panthers. I think we'll start faster especially being at home. We always played much better at home. Lose. I don't tickle. Okay. Now, we're four two and I picked the Panthers every week. So he came acting like me pick the Panthers as bad thing. Go panthers. Twenty-three ravens sixteen. Brad. What about you? John's guests is pretty close to mine except it's going to be flipped. I think the ravens are going to win twenty three to seventeen. I believe the Panthers will lose. Seventeen to ten. Wondering the Vegas? The ravens are two and a half point favorites over under his forty four. So if you do some math that's roughly like twenty three twenty one twenty four twenty one and that ballpark for the ravens, that's the Vegas thing. It's prediction. Well, I don't buy it. I think that's pretty accurate. This is reasonable. Seems reasonable. But I just struggled. I struggled with. I don't. I don't know like counting on this Panthers. Offense to show up again against very good defense, especially since that defense just loss to the saints. So it's kinda where I'm coming from. That our offense hasn't showed up for real in like three weeks. So they're due to be good from the start. Yeah. I think one of two things are going to happen. I think it's going to be an extreme situation. I think we're either gonna see like a nine three game where none of us won't to to live after it's over or we're going to see like forty five to thirty eight where neither team can stop the other one because we are due to to have an offense of breakout. And I think the ravens while they are really good on defense. I think it's possible that this could just be one of those. Hey, it's slip ball. What are you gonna do type games? Sounds fair. But I do think we're gonna lose. Well, any other lasting bits here? Else? Freddie. Mercury is still the best. Jackson wants came to jersey after the game sprinkle. I can see why it's a good quarterback. Joe flacco, I don't I don't really get it. Because he's he shares a locker room with Joe flacco like why why cams autograph sitting next to an elite quarterback as it is. Yes for Joe flacco jersey after every game. So I kind of hope. Yeah. Because that would be funny. One of the thing about Joe flacco. Very much joy him at wide receiver. That is funny. Yes. He's like he's like Jay Cutler, like at least he gets himself. Unlike a wide receiver stance, and he could not stand more still while the players are being run within wide receiver. Jay Cutler is the elite quarterback at wide receiver. Guy though, like nobody could have less of a shit about anything than Jay Cutler does. Joe flacco is bad. But nobody's Spanish Jay Cutler standing there, like shoulders pointed parallel till on scrimmage, but this hands on his hip during during enough to play. There's there's no beating that. So I guess we're. Wrapping up. Yeah. Thought we. Well, life lessons from Brian Bevere sluice at some point in your life. You're gonna meet somebody who is death onto legs. But the important thing is that they say, you're my best friend, and they also sing bohemian rhapsody. That's great. I wanted all that would be the love of my life. And if you meet that person, and they say now, I'm here. Maybe you should go for it. And let them save you. So from all of us here at the keep sounding podcast is a fat bottom girl. Exactly. The show must go on though from all of us here at the keep sounding podcasts. Friends will be friends. This is Brian doing the by Brad and John enjoy our podcast enjoy the ravens game. Hopefully, we have a victory talk you about hopefully, we have one vision for you next Monday or Tuesday ending on the day. Thanks listening. Facing? I guess. The high. The. Hello. I'm Spencer hall from Espy nation. 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I Hate the Fins 27: A Look Ahead at Next Year's Draft Prospects and a Look Back at the Ridiculously Silly 2009 NFL Draft

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I Hate the Fins 27: A Look Ahead at Next Year's Draft Prospects and a Look Back at the Ridiculously Silly 2009 NFL Draft

"This is I hate the Finns Episode Number Twenty Seven. I can't believe they still pay us to do this. But here we are my name is Keith with my co-host sack or still going through. Unfortunately the offseason doldrums uh-huh with the good news is July's the last month before we have anything resembling official football so as Nice. We're almost there. It's going to be an interesting season. We mentioned this last show actual quarterback quarterback battle on if you're interested in a lot of the players available next year who aren't at the quarterback position obviously you're hoping for Josh Rosen to beat out Ryan Fitzpatrick. Take the job run with a <hes> establish himself as the franchise guy in Miami. That's what we're all hoping for the team as well except for for everyone though Zach because the to a fan club and to a lesser extent your fan club the Justin Herbert Fan Club. Why are you doing this to me so late at night trying to give me an aneurysm at eleven forty at night? You'RE GONNA kill me forty here central time so <hes> stranger things now. I barely made editor season to to be honest. I elect stranger things. I like the aesthetic of stranger things but I'm not fully sure I understand what's going on and I don't know if I have the willpower to go back and figure out what is going on truthfully. It's interesting. I think it appeals to some people appeals people my age because this is obviously non sequitur by the way the whole eighties and soldier since I am actually an eighties. He's not an eighty s child per se was born in the eighties nineties kid obviously because that's when I was actually growing up but I think it appeals to some people who weren't alive in the eighties. You are obviously the outlier outlier there because <hes> it doesn't really appeal as much to you anyway. That was a total tangent but I'm just kidding Zack's not a big Justin Herbert Fan <hes> we've talked about this a little bit usually usually off the grid but a lot of the reviews coming in claim that he's going to be this mammoth quarterback prospect and look at the tape last year and it's like. I guess you see what you we WANNA see. I don't know I mean like I. I see a I guess more modern feels like a weird phrase to put like everything that he showed so far is the same thing that blamed Gabar showed up at Missouri already. How did you understand what the differences right like but but like it's the same thing like I just I don't know I guess just because Josh Allen has gone so I he's done at Belykh? He was essentially Isaiah running back last year so he was more running backs in Lamar Jackson was which is pretty bad. Have you ever seen clerks or clerks to. I always thought that nine years but blink blink Everett looks just like Randall Yeah especially like me on the sideline with the backward hat and be like man. You're killing it right now. So blatant Blaine Gabbert was such a lax Bro. I don't know how he ended up in the N._F._l.. He on him he wasn't even like a day one day two prospect and then I wanna say they played Iowa in a bowl game his last year Mizzou and he threw for something like four hundred yards or whatever they look what Missouri Law Second I think they were in a they had a chance to win it. They blew Iowa wins. I think it was against Iowa. I'm going off memory by were watching that game live in thinking that this is pregnant pump. Oh this dude draft stock a ton and you know like when you're watching a game in the you can almost see a draft prospect going up through the levels of like oh now. He's a third round well. That'll probably put them in the second round. That's how it got N.. Gabar and I'm I knew it was a quarterback starved draft just because they're hyping up jake locker was in that draft. We are a Christian ponder and I'm gene everyone outside of Cam Newton by the way at the top so in the thing is I liked Christian ponder but he was never healthy any of that elbow issue at Ford State was never the same but before that Christian ponder lay I was a big fan of that dude as a prospect but he had some. I forget the elbow issue exactly but after that he was never the same that was that was a really bad quarterback class but at the same time it gave us guys like Andy Dalton Caper Nick Cave next at the second round that you're yeah who else thought there was one more that was like like a later guy. That's just kind of stuck God. I can't remember off the top of my head eleven yeah. I thought there was a random later guy. That's Kinda just hung around. Oh I'm thinking of that Short a little run that T._J.. That's where I'm thinking bless his little heart yeah in Andy Dalton's one of the more successful guys in that draft and the funny thing is Cincinnati. Fans spent a lot of their time arguing about whether he sucks or not you know who else was in that class now that I'm thinking about it <hes> tyrod Taylor was yeah yeah mcelroy good old goal Bama quarterbacks how man the he'd gotten the announcing booth almost immediately. Oh yeah that that's where he was meant to be though yeah that was the weird thing about that draft though is that it was so good in some respects as long as you weren't drafting a quarterback. Rex you think some of the guys came out like von Miller draft J. J. J. Watt is in there and for a while there. We were convinced that Alden Smith was in that league to white label all in the N._F._l.. And not suspended he was yeah mandate he started off with a bang and San Francisco and I mean I I blame all the the Dion Jordan parallels and projections actions and everything on Alden Smits early production in San Francisco because I mean I think you and I I know you and I have talked about this before but similar prospects in build but I mean the only difference is I actually now that I think about there wasn't much of a difference outside of Deandra and could just had a head of a small window there were it looked like you starting to put it together and then it went away in all Smith I think San Francisco new it's do with them and put them in a position to succeed in early on in that defense I mean honestly he could just pin his ear back because you came out in like he was just a rail for a three four edge guy so just you know tall tall and skinny any but our early on man he was awesome. I mean the I granted. He wasn't even the focal point in San Francisco defense because that's when they adjusted Smith and never really just built around that like that ultra penetrating like five tack sized player so many think like if you're on Smith you're playing a linebacker core with Navarro Bowman Patrick Willis Patrico as I it's late and so my my brain's not okay okay and I think the other guy was a mob brooks subway at that point. I forgot about a mob brooks. He was a solid player. He was there Calvin pace yet. He's there yeah exactly I mean like you're playing across from old. Smith WHO's out of his mind on the field field at that point not in terms of his <hes> his personal life and the funny thing is that front seven was so stupid good that they were sending guys like <hes> Carlos Rogers to the pro bowl. I WANNA say they didn't go to the proble there. Were there a bunch of Rando corners that went from those forty nine or teams just because her front seven was so so good yeah in the thing like guys who just could not get you know get going elsewhere the employees when that that front seven is absolutely just eating people alive and suddenly things are allowed easier. I couldn't believe it couldn't remember hamlet couldn't remember Patrick Wilson's last name that's when he knows Mel Long Week and it has been Super Dad Edward Right now and I just come home. I think of dad things all the time. The only downside to that is eventually you hit a wall and you're like what have I done but I think Patrick Willis. How long has he been out of the League? He's got it becoming coming up on four or five years right once as like three or four years so much longer ago he's he's still in it when they went to. I WanNa say you retired after twenty fifteen fifteen because I know that I'm just going based off memory and like I said he retired in twenty obviously okay I knew in that range because it's shocked me yeah and he was <unk>. I he was the dude I wanted to take in that two thousand seven draft and the shame in all of that is if the dolphins had known what to do at Ted Ginn that would have been a pretty pretty good pick yeah. He had a long career in the league. I mean he still viable. I mean it sounds like he got absolutely in a live in that that million dollar racing that they did maybe he's well into his thirties at this point so yeah. He's a year younger than me so he's thirty four. I think his birthday is the day before and I don't know why I remember that. I think he's April twelve because you are trauma is when they took him over Brady Quinn just like may I was just yeah I guess so I it's been so long now or I think like I didn't really want Brady Quinn but if you think about it and you're a dolphins fan and like especially at that point you're coming out of a a season when you were starting Dante culpepper and then he got hurt because he wasn't ready then you're starting Joey Harrington. I think <hes> CLEO LEMON GOTTA start that you're too. Yes I think he started against Indianapolis late in the year but all that to say that at that point it didn't take much of a quarterback prospect in the first round for dolphins fan salivate and honestly what's change yeah yeah or the same spot yeah and I mean that's why with Josh Rosen I mean I was a big fan of them. Last year I yeah I mean they're awards in his game. He's not perfect but what quarterback prospect is perfect a and if you think about these guys like Andrew Luck Yeah as a guy who came out and rolled out number one and it looks like he's getting back to his old self which even though I hate the colts and I'm a little bit horrified that <hes> Jimmer is as the one who bought up all David Gilmour's guitars at the same time his money goes right to climate change charities. Anyway says money's just as good as anyone else's <hes>. It looks like you're getting back to what you think about all these guys who have come out and there's always some kind of were in their game when it's like yeah. We don't know nobody was sold on Cam Newton. When he came out I mean he was even viewed as the normal and picking that draft? I'll emmy at one point it was coming down to a lot of people thought it was a Nick Fairley was going to be the number one pick an draft which is ridiculous. I think he went what bur teen overall Marcel Darius. I think is in that draft the I mean it's I. I still think it's just crazy thinking about the Josh Rosen Trade for what the dolphins. This gave up to get him like it. Essentially they leased a second rounder and they gave up a fifth rounder which is crazy like they didn't even truly give up a second round pick like they leased it for year. That's insane. I think it's weird for Dolphin Sand because usually the these fans are more than used to seeing this team on the short end of that deal just getting ripped off all the time yeah giving you much or going after a player. That's not gonNA solve what you're looking for. I'm thinking about the Brandon Marshall Deal right now. Everyone thought that that was it. It was not turn just turned into another problem and then we we traded Tutus for I think it and then we get in then we got to threes in return. I think Chicago Yep yeah letting the grand scheme of things like for the way his he wanted out and like it was blatantly no light Brandon Marshall not playing for the Miami Dolphins texture losing one around doesn't feel so horrible. It's still not good but doesn't feel terrible. Yeah no I I agree. At least you're able to get something from it. Yeah <hes> that was also I think Chicago in the mistaken that deal I think that's when they also parted ways with Greg Olsen that hurt hunk yeah premature move my dad hates cradles and so so much narrower said why he despite I don't know I don't know what it is. I think it's sour grapes. I think it's a little bit of the fact that I mean Greg had had a little bit of the the fumbles he is something costly fumbles early in his career and then he goes to Carolina. He's just a world beater so I mean it's just classic Chicago Sports Fan Stuff where you're just like. What the Hell I can you do that here? I mean you could hang onto the ball if your life depended on it now you're now you're Cam Newton's most reliable red zone target by a mile which is easy to do when you play in a very under sized <hes> really pass catching group outside of when they had Kelvin Benjamin but <hes>. I don't know I mean I'm stoked talked about Josh Rosen honestly. I've had so much going on that. I've forgotten about back that we have that guy. He's in camp right now with a chance to win the job and if he doesn't win the job you know it's not take much to get him in there. Yeah I mean it'd be nice to see him. Play all sixteen games <hes>. I don't think he needs to play all sixteen games because people people seem to be really set on Mike if he doesn't play all sixteen games it was a waste what they even do that for like again. He got them for next to nothing essentially for leasing a second round pick and a fifth round pick this year not even last year. You've got the tenth and Eleventh Pick in Twenty nineteen draft like which is crazy but if he starts hey even if they split half and half of the season you can get a pretty good idea of what you got. Josh Rosen in eight games and and like I just I don't no no I just don't see them going after a quarterback in the first round next year I think they're they're looking to build long-term at doesn't make sense unless they guy is going to be like a franchise is life changing guy which I don't necessarily know if any of those guys are at the moment to is probably the closest but I I just don't see it next year. WHO's your favorite prospect in next year's class regardless of position assertion just a guy where you're like man not only even if the dolphins don't get him? I'm stoked to watch him play <hes> Hi. I'm every woman and I'm the host of Nice. 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I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown forecast avengers of college football podcast it says in the script onto riff on what that means and basically what I mean is it's all unspoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle school we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfashionable pants that coach's where now if you want to college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on Apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP. That's tough I'm going to say it's a really close tie for totally different reasons between <hes> grant delpit the safety from L._S._U.. Essentially derwin James Two Point Oh yeah and then <hes> Kenny. anywho keys <hes> the edge player from Michigan State. I love him. He's really good to Michigan say really kicked out a killer edge like that yeah yeah I mean the last one we thought was going to be potentially Jewish elite Calhoun <hes> but he he went to the raiders. Just are I pay <hes> in that was over before I even got. They're they're. They're not my top two prospects but they're deathly might to that. I'm looking four to the most this season favourite questioning yeah. It's not a binding contract your mind now. This is going on the Internet Keith. I can't change my mind the Internet's undefeated and and so my guys judy yes by mile. Oh Yeah I love. I love like that and I think that guy is the ultimate example of the type of receiver Alabama has turned out the past five really all most all their receivers after Julio have been more of like I was struggled for the the ideal player to compare these guys is too because I mean you think about like Amari Cooper and Kelvin Ridley and I got Jerry Judy and I I was calling slashers because they're not big body dudes who are just going to sit there and just house guys in the vertical passing game and just body everyone one night I mean Amari Cooper did do that a little bit at Bama but these dudes are all six one ish. I'm six. I can't imagine going out there. All I think they're all Reggie Wayne copies out how dare you how dare you jumping from that one but are gonna cut him but that was my thought about this today and it hit me that Reggie Wayne is in my opinion where this mold starts. I think is Reggie. Wayne is about six foot a six foot. Maybe maybe a little over six foot in coming out of Miami. It was just kind of player neck not not a guy who houses people in in goes up in high points the football with ease and you know I'm sorry I think the kids now. They call it bossing people. I was called housing in terms of what it's evolved that term anyway but he was he was a slasher. I hate you for saying that before. I rolled it out and I was just say congruent. No that's okay actually makes me feel good that you thought of it too so clearly. I wasn't totally off as because I figured maybe I'd throw it out and you're like no. You're stupid. It's really funny. Come draft time when people just over analyze things too much and there's going to be a few teams few people that are going to be like yeah I have Henry Rugs above Jerry Judy which I think rugs has more burners to Judy's just Chris Judy Judy. Is You know how much I love Calvin. Ridley come on Alabam Hate Alabama's program and even even I was just like a total fan boy for him. I was like man I mean. The dolphins didn't even really need it receiver like that but at the same named him they took Calvin really. I'm not even mad at that. Jerry Judy is like a supercharged Calvin really which is saying is Calvin really was solidiary and explosive playing for those guys so Jerry I think me Jimmy might have a little bit of a bigger body and that so I think like he he he might be able to use that to his advantage. Were but I just watch him play like in terms of a slasher guy he he is the total package <unk> runner ups route running ability the one guy that I wanna see too wide receiver wise this year especially with the non heisman winning quarterback is going to be C._D.. Lamb like if he puts up another big year he's GonNa get Juju cops like I think he's GonNa get us. You cops all over the place I was. I loved him. When obviously it's easy to look good when when Baker Mayfield throwing the ball yeah because he was I thought late in the year in Oklahoma's twenty seventeen season like he was a he was another guy where he was just an absolute matchup problem and explosive and against slippery? I use you slippery as a term to describe a lot of these guys but that's him because Marquees Brown was the guy who is just like the stupid speedster on that team but cd Lan thought was a home run guy in his own right yeah but but he's a little bit more physical too which is nice like and that's the thing they had a nice Combo there of Hollywood Brown who you know you gotTa have the safeties fourteen to sixteen yards often given that double help just in case so so C._D.. Lambs just body and dudes up working that sideline into be dudes up left and right but when he wants to a needs to like he can turn it on <hes>. He reminds me his his that I've been giving him outside of the easy. Jujuy one is <hes> Michael Crabtree. That's who he reminds me a lot of same same conference there man Michael crabtree calms way faster than crabtree. Though what do you think a low four four guy remember. I don't the Michael Crabtree ran the forty. I think dodged I what didn't he have the foot issue that sees the front and then it just something we're I don't. I don't know the knee ever officially ran that rookie oh he did very much that that pre-draft process to be honest correctly because that was a draft where he was expected to be a high pick and like giving some of the guys who were high picks in that draft ep he should have been. Yeah that was decent Smith when number two overall that was the tackle out of Baylor. That was an absolute disaster on an now. I gotTA think here <hes> wait here like Kansas City Tyson the defense no good lord known as the East from towel yeah he went the cow. That was the shocker pick of that draft that was in two thousand ten. That was the next year you're talking on the guy from L._S._U.. Yeah what is his name Tyson Laden's rough so and then a fourth was on Kurri Kurri and that guy was thought is like the Kansas player in that draft Yup Yeah Tyson Jackson Jackson there we go <hes>. Let me think of the other guys in there because I think crabtree filled a full ten yeah. He went to ten for San Francisco. Who who are the bill's sake right after him? Oh Aaron Maven Yeah. It was a that was another one where man when that came out of Penn state you just here. Let's we'll just play a game with this just like name the team picking after four and let's see if I can remember who they took <hes> okay so we just hit eleven with Buffalo <hes> who who'd Sandiego taken that one that was on northern Larry English Illinois which is where I go so that was the guy that I was actually interested in the in the dolphins offense getting obviously it's it worked out for them. Let's see here Michael Our net draft and right after Michael or my my big draft with on rage everybody Yeah I love yeah. A man who let's see so fifth pick was Sanchez. I think I think that's traded up for him. And then the six was at Cincinnati the Cincinnati Yeah Yep Andre Smith YEP NEXT HOAGLUND MEMPHIS Darius Hayward Bay Yep Jacksonville. That's row YEP <hes> <hes> Green Bay Green Bay that was <hes> B._J.. Raji it was okay and then we said it's crabtree and then Air Maven and then twelve who had the toll ver Denver to come out man I remember this being it was it was the same year as Matthew Stafford Gio. This is a mcdaniels. Oh No Sean Marino there. It is Georgia. I loved him. At Georgia. I think Denver traded traded back into the second round to get off Alfonso Smith that your fossils Colorado guy no the five eight Corrado wake I always I was mixed him up with some Colorado. Jimmy Smith was it. Jimmy Smith was yeah in twenty eleven unless Denver traded up for Affonso Smith with a Seattle I think is who ripped him off in that draft yup and then I who's the quarter that I am thinking <hes> who knows nothing of Alphonso Denard out of Nebraska now. I don't know who will take of all right so twelfth. Pick was demer so who the thirteen thirteen was Washington. They took Brian Iraq Iraq though I was just like seeing him in those Geico commercials I was like man was that guy's name New Orleans New Orleans took <hes> man this place place for the eagles he on he <hes> yeah he <hes> out of <hes> Ohio state jam there we go YEP now. I was just like man. This is a problem. It's like give me a break. Hughes Houston took one of my favorite linebackers yeah they did Jersey Guy Tampa Bay took a quarterback yet took Josh Freeman yeah they did Broncos took <hes> Robert Ayers Yeah Tennessee and then from there nineteen through twenty two who was solid macklin headed grew Alex Mack Okay Oregon Alex Max in their Percy Harbin and Michael. Our think is in there because I think the Patriots traded out of that spot. If I recall correctly they did dead or Jerry and then the vaunted Davis pick was there yeah and the two guys I like the most in that draft were Vantera Davis and Clay Matthews and they ride their back to back. Oh Man and the thing is Dante Davis. That was the first I am. I saw E._S._p._N.. Had their scouting rankings and I saw it in October of two thousand eight and I think but von Davis was number two just behind effort it was like that pretty much for and then his his stocks are the slide because you know you had a lot of questions about his character and everything it's not like they knew he was going to retire at halftime at the end of his career or anything but yeah yeah I mean and then it Kinda rounds out. how donald bren for their would wall which thurman merman by the way if you seen bad bad santa one of my favorite players in recent memory though is <hes> coming up here and that's hockey mix akeem knicks and then ken kenny britt who tracked meaning high school i got trucked by britain highschool yeah we used to scrimmage baone every year am i a freshman year i was the contained aimed guy for kickoff and so we kicked off and he started running the other way it's like now i'm gonna come back the other way and like like a five foot six hundred thirty pounds soaking wet zach just completely got run over oh man right on his way to rutgers yeah yeah poor kenny britt and then last two are a beanie wells and ziggy hood beanie wells and he was on a lot of people thought new orleans gonna take him earlier in that draft e._s._p._n. is supposed to be the big bag prospect and then per perc- harbin one of the more <hes> puzzling careers for <hes> that and he never really had a position kind of did everything you could i mean anything coming out of florida zia running bags here receiver is he a guy you just want on returns like what do we do in here because i mean like he was just a he was just a home run threat every time he had the ball james aaron i never made a proble now i don't think so what is this nonsense i was a big fan of his at ohio state which is angle out though because i hate that school what's really funny is like raikov mcmillan is kind of just more modern james laryngitis if we're being honest ourselves here that's that's right on racal mcmillan can play play on third down if you need him to a realistically he's just like hundred fifteen to one hundred thirty tackle james learn itis god blessed her own baker at this point yeah yeah have you seen jerome bakers gained like fifteen twenty pounds fifteen twenty pounds i just hope if he doesn't lose that because he's got that blitzkrieg speed at that second level i love watching that dude run yeah yeah i don't think he will he's he's a pretty crazy athlete like that was what he was coming into ohio state when he was recruited in that that was like the word on the street was like ohio state recruited the stupidest athletic <hes> by backer that we've seen in a while since like zac brown u._n._c. <hes> at he was carrying it up his first couple years as i season he had some big plays and then once he got moved into a fulltime role it's like it was almost too much for him and like they didn't let him kind of roman flow in like do everything that he should do as an athletic guy <hes> <hes> and they started planning amended like overlooks and stuff like that where he just was not big enough because like in college he played at like two ten to fifteen as like so i mean but then like i think the dolphins kinda have a good role for him and i think he's gonna have even better role in the new defense now i think there's timeshare even gonna see them run a i don't wanna say a thirty four front but something that kind of like it <hes> and you may see yeah yeah like like that stand up defensive end with an outside linebacker probably van geico to be honest as the over guy and then you're gonna see drove baker as at running chase slash floater linebacker in the middle man well let's go ahead and continue this conversation <hes> into our next show which i think we're we can record this weekend to people who are all <music> snout where we're down from eight people seven now we have seven listeners we we lost on oh we need to find a way to pay these people like you have no shame we'll make it worth your time so we'll continue that discussion we'll we'll talk about some of the guys who wanna see plant defense you mentioned you mentioned van kinkel i'm excited to watch at dude play very patriots type player like definitely a chesapeake but drome baker is too so view episode we will we will and then we'll waste a bunch of time talking about the twenty or the two thousand nine draft as well so lewis illnesses in the second round i think he was picking the second around who stillness he was awesome he was a good man if you could just stay healthy would have been just yeah i think he would have had a great career outside able to do even bob sanders two-point now but they had the same flaws so it was going to say that's a that's similar all right for everyone listening thank you all seven of you we appreciate you appreciate your time offers acme names keith this is ben i hate the thin summer twenty seven we'll be back for twenty eight record that this 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Deeper Than It Looks?

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Deeper Than It Looks?

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Now we are on a live podcast, but the city of Cleveland not be tonight, not to forecast not to give away too much of the show, but I've got that good, Bud, Light vibe going into, tonight's stab between the Cleveland Browns and New York predicts, are you? Are you calling it or you like, are you like Broadway, Joe? Or are you are you? Are you pushing your chips into the middle or you making a call here? I feel like it's not that bold of a call 'cause they are favored by three and a half points, whatever. I'm just saying I woke up this morning excited about the Cleveland Browns and the possibility of the win a football game tonight for the first time. But then I'm looking over there at not cool Keith, who has everyone knows is you know, grew up in. Ohio is a huge brand die, hard lifelong Cleveland, sports fan, and he has he muted optimism, would it be. Never creeps in. Right. Never creeps in ninety. No. In fact, this actually scare field is very rarely one who will go out on a limb and say this team's winning this team's losing a field as very guarded and smart about that stuff to come out like this scares the bejesus out of simple as now. I didn't mean to do that. Love and I hope you're right. If Keith afraid, you know, when you know emotionally when you've been burned fields, this is what happens like you get burned and then you don't trust anymore. It's hard to be committed. And so poor, Keith, he's been burned so many times he doesn't want to invite us himself. So good coming from us to find. It feels like you've been in. This feels like I've been there before. Yeah, coming from experience. Right. Thank you. I stand from Joe Montana, Steve Young. It was such a such arms. This ruling transition, hey, gone, you. Let's not forget. We had some forgettable Blaine gabbert moments in not not. So not. So recent pass through the Blaine gabbert. Yeah. What do you ever do to you. To see news the national. The interest. Play. Gable after the two, he got a game. Oh, yeah. Got a couple of game balls in my NFL career there. Cooling. I've Obermann sometime said that was from Wesleyan. I was like my NFL career cheese. Patriots. Got some. Yeah, pretty bad. There's a fun fact about field. We do not know. Nitrates. Did you know that? Well, yeah. Now they went to Wesleyan university not get out. I want this person that went to Wesleyan university. I feel like you are. I am close maybe like two hundred nineteenth. I wanna know I way way back. Let's go back to this game. You have to at least provide the context and like, how did they present it? Like in the locker. Like. Yeah. Yeah. What did you, what did you do to earn in the case of the Kansas City Chiefs one, for example, everybody wants. It wasn't really likely we Jim. The walking by with a broad. Eighty six game balls commissioned until we had clinched. So my first year in Kansas City, we went four and twelve. Next year we turned around largely on the MAC hassle twenty-six touchdowns seven interceptions Jamaal Charles, ran wild, and we we had a really exciting young team and we win. We make the playoffs xeroxed a bunch of stuff. Let's be honest right? Kokin coffee like so, right. Everyone contributed a team effort guys. Okay. I'm trying to I. I have a couple of others. I'm trying to think of like the circumstance. I don't have as much of a. I have a Super Bowl ring which is kinda cool to from. Okay. That they bring. Send for. So in very, yeah, you totally buried Utah. Barry. I mean, I didn't even wear it once you have you, you've never worn it. I've literally wanted once today that I was gifted. It is that winter isn't. It is you need to bring that in shaping and put that on your finger. Yeah. I just I just took away a couple of Super Bowl diamonds. And yeah. Why would you not wear that? You should if nothing else? Like we're that around your neck. Let me tell you that around your neck like flavor flav at all times. Around me for a second writing my reasoning, Eddie Bruschi one of the great patriots over the past twenty years bet are teammate, SPN and a great NFL analyst. By the way on today's fantasy show any as plus muschamp any man. Teddy stop by today. He'll be really good because he's really insightful. Tedy Bruschi won three separate, Super Bowls. He did Bruschi went to a Pro Bowl papers. He was called by Bill Belichick the perfect patriot at his retirement. Yes, you ever just teddy, whereas his simple ring around not around, but I have seen him wear. It won't twice on air rhino does like especially. SuperBowl week when he's doing about Super Bowl coverage, he will. He will on occasion. But in fairness, in fairness, though, let's be clear about this Tedy Bruschi is Tedy Bruschi in big capital letters because like he walks in the room like, oh, there's three times SuperBowl champion Tedy Bruschi like he doesn't need to wear the ring all due respect when you walk into the room, that's not what people think. So that's what made it a little bit of bling who's Microsoft. I know exactly what they think about field because I told them what to take those surface tablets don't charge themselves. Someone has got to do that for the side. We didn't even have surface tablets at that point. So allowing my money. The ring sometime bring it ahead, kiss it airing. You know when I declare tomorrow? Well, tomorrow Friday show. Next Tuesday. Ono's to find you sit here on Tuesday. Next Tuesday also is our live show. We'd love to see you there. Oh, you know what? At the at the live, bring. Oh, no. No, no. But we have to show Intel day. We will show and tell day off air we need to. We need to belong to do show until they will. You bring in, you will bring in your Super Bowl ring. Let's get to cement and I will bring in my Toco during that I got from fruit loops this morning, especially not bad. Let's get to some news, Aaron Rodgers confirmed on Wednesday that his left knee could get worse as the season goes on as passed along by rob demoskop's to find you is this. This is not news or noise. But what does this news mean? I think is just Aaron Rodgers being honest. You know, we talked about this on the podcast. I said, after the games, we were talking about how well he performed. I was like, don't let that fool you make you think he's over this. This is something that has a long way to go to heal. He was cool and comfortable. There was some close ups of his face and some of the facial expressions he made when he got hit. I mean, he's playing in pain, and we should all remember that. He also had great protection that game. So he's worried, of course, if there's another situation where maybe it doesn't. He gets hit the wrong way. He steps wrong. These are all things that could set him backwards. I think he was asked the question context, important, you know, is he concerned? And his response was like naturally, it's a concern that it could potentially worsen. So we, as we said earlier in the week that he is literally day to day and Mike McCarthy is not exaggerating that is absolutely true. He'll day to day and week to week. And if at some point things are not going the right direction, they might choose to hold him out. Here's what I think the actual side of this is if you have Aaron Rodgers starting quarterback, you might want to strongly consider adding a second quarterback sooner rather than later. Because if you wait until something potentially happens to Rogers, we could get to a BI week where you've already got several other backup. Quarterbacks lifted from the waiver wire might not be a bad idea to have a second quarterback on your roster, and there are plenty of quality available options. Andy, Dalton, Ryan, Fitzpatrick, Derek Carr amongst them, or perhaps the other side of this Matthew would be, let's just say Aaron Rodgers. And actually a lot of people say, I have Patrick Mahomes. Sure. Trade him for Aaron Rodgers, which do the opposite. If someone offered you straight up, not to get too nuanced, but if someone offered you air your air Rodgers and they gave you there, Patrick Mahomes to take it. I would prefer Patrick Mahomes given this news. Sure. It makes you a little bit nervous and it seems crazy to say this to games in. Yep, that we're talking about guy. We're talking about a guy with three career starts that you would prefer to the best quarterback in the NFL right now, Tom Brady's the goat crying. I think he's the goat of all time, but at the moment in terms of their play, I think Aaron Rodgers at the best quarterback in the NFL peyot much to part of my take with RIP and said, they go to all time of all. Of all time. I did not do it intentionally, but you know, I, I, I love. I love the PF guy. So PMT and I love PF team, big cat. So, yeah, no question about that. I've been on that. I'm barring that for now and go to all time. Go to all time Marcus Marcus. Time of all time. Right. It's about time of all time. Yes, but I'm pound of those guys so shot it to them Marcus mariota the titans who is injured for right now for right now, acknowledged that he's got some numbness and tingling in his fingers. Finally, that stems to that elbow injury, right? What does this nerve? And and again, this is we, we talked about this last week on Sunday. I said, I'd be surprised if he was active because of the fact that he was still having trouble gripping the ball by his own admission. I mean, these are things that Marcus mariota has acknowledged, and yet he was active but obviously did not play. So the titans clearly have some concern about this residual numbness, lack of feeling like of strength. The problem with nerve tissue is it heals a very slow rate and there's no way to accelerate it. So he didn't give treatment around it to try and reduce swelling, etc. Make sure you're trying to strengthen as much as you can. But the rate at which this resolves is completely up to the nerve and you've just got to sit around and be patient. So there's no way to tell you. This'll be better in x. number of days or weeks, the fact that he said it has been improving is encouraging, but you can also get to like eighty five percent and then plateau bit, hey, can I ask you one question sort of just in general, on your opinion about Marcus mariota. I know that in general, you have often said about players. Some players are injury, prone in some players are just unlucky. I remember spun you and I've been working together for so long. I remember like when Matthew Stafford started and people forget when Matthew staffer was a young queer could not stay on the field. He got injured had the collarbone injury. One year he had the, he can't have the lien happen. I just remember going into sort of his breakout ear and I was very high on him and his breakout ear, and one of the reasons I was is because and I quoted you a lot. I was like, he's not injury prone. He's just unlucky. There is a difference. And of course, since that time, Matthew Stafford's been one of the iron man of the NFL Marcus mariota who you know whether it's the leg, whether it's the hamstring issue dealt with last year. Now he's got. This is Marcus mariota you think injury prone or just been really. Unlucky to start his NFL career. I think it's too. We use the injury prone labeled too much. I think the people who really fall in that category are the ones who have soft tissue injury after soft tissue injury in just cannot ever seem to get totally passed. It. Marianas have been a variety of different things is when it was just an unfortunate hit and where the nerve was exposed and now he's dealing with. I have one thing to add to that, and I don't know the how many people are riding with Marcus mariota as their starter in season-long. I'd imagine basically none absent to quarterback leagues, but maybe a few. Those that have them in dynasty in intrigued by the upside is the amount of injuries have piled up, make that much less likely that he will ever become a consistent dual threat quarterback, right? People always say like, may why not run by Mario to all the time, you know, by the way. And this is a good question that was posed by Alex Muniz on on Twitter and I get this sometimes. In your opinion, other of your, do you think Marcus mariota and I look alike. I could see it. Yeah. Best friend kind of in a cousins way like not. But like you, if you guys walked into a bar together, you'd be like, oh, you guys are sort of related just something like that. I could. I could. There's. Are we have it on our Twitter feed of we face structure is actually really different when you have it side by side like that. So I don't think anybody's confusing the two of you, but could you be like? But if you said I'm market like, you know, if you went into a bar and you said, hey, I'm Travis Morio. Well, you know, what is Marcus cousin like UPS rallies, Oregon from Hawaii grandfather went to Saint Louis high school to win as well. Maybe maybe when when does that twenty three and me sponsorship startup you think Marcus mariota has ever got a game ball right. He probably have our national championship. He's got a couple of them. Hey, in the pros, maybe. You never know. But I will say this. He doesn't have a Super Bowl ring. I'll say that ring. You're not starting any Tennessee titans this week. I. Maybe I don't think I even wanting on against the Jags I think who knows Marcus mariota makes this all respect the Blaine gabbert ex experience. I don't. You're obviously not starting Corey Davis, not against those corners, not with Marcus mariota, still worrying about gripping the ball. I don't know. I, I wasn't impressed with the those. Hopefully you have better options than either the running backs. I can't imagine starting any Tennessee titan this week against the Jags and feeling good about it. I'm with you on that. Every fall. Fantasy football has a breakout star. Scott's can be that Dr with just one fall feeding giving you a stronger yard now. And next spring, your fantasy football draft might have been full of tough choices, but then easy. The choice is easy with Scott's, pick up a bag of Scotts turf builder. Winter guard today to get you a stronger yard now and next spring. Time now for a game preview Dame redeem. Gabri Thursday night football. If you're the buzz already, they're playing at first energy field. That's what it's called right in Cleveland Browns versus the jets. And we start with the Brown side of this tyrod Taylor was really good in week. One from fantasy football perspective, not very good from real life perspective, and he wasn't very good in either in week two, he has now fallen out of our starting ranks. This week is the, but you could you could you? Could you talk yourself into starting tyrod Taylor? Sure. You can talk yourself into starting tyrod Taylor. I look, obviously you'd have to be pretty far down here, but he ranked second to Cam Newton in terms of Russia's rushing yards, rushing touchdowns among quarterback since two thousand fifteen where you're talking yourself into tyrod Taylor's. Hey, maybe throws a long one to Antonio. Calloway does his, you know, maybe he Russia's for a touchdown as well. And you know that keeps the floor sort of high look had nine street games about multiple touchdown passes here. It's why I haven't as a low in QB to try. You know, it's a short week here, but they are the home team which you prefer the home team on a short week, favored home team has on home savored. Yeah. And you know, we know they know they know when they lines. I agree with you though, like tyrod Taylor, probably what based off of the numbers in week one and two. He was not a popularly started quarterback, and I think that one of the subplots of tonight, I think the primary plot could be, you know them winning, but I do believe that a subplot is maybe the the Baker Mayfield experience begin sooner rather than later of tyrod struggles persist. Carlos Hyde has thirty eight carries through two weeks. That's why Matthew hasn't stopped twenty play. I've got him at twenty to find it is a bit lower on him anything to be concerned about for us to find you. I mean, I don't know, do I believe that they're really going to switch up there? Running back was Asian in Cleveland? No, but for Carlos I, that's been a good thing. Right. Are you saying that you find the buzz? That's what I mean. I mean, I I'm giving a little bit of credence to it only because we think it's important that it happens right on what's divine is referring to is Hugh Jackson said, oh, sorry, yesterday day before conversation is if I made it really. Clear right. Get more touches for Johnson, right? I will concede, I do not know whether it was post to him, hey, Hugh, do we need to get more more? Did Hugh say this somewhat unprompted or unscripted to the point that you say are he's saying that because he's making a point here and they actually are going to follow through with that. But either way we all believe that Duke Johnson needs Chabal more. So if you are? No, I look at it like this. I mean, like I think carlin's it's been running decently, but. I mean the the problems with the the the, if the Cleveland Browns had a kick or they'd be to an now right now, right? That sets fair, but not because their offense. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, right, like the offense has so much to get better and they, they doubled down onto Johnson, the subsidies four million bucks a year. It'd be a bit role like I think he needs to my opinion is my opinions needs to be needs. A bell has catcher. My hesitates is that I don't think he's going to be more involved necessarily tonight, or at least I am worried about that. Like I'm I have the warm league. I don't know whether to play him or not. He's he's a legitimate flex option for us or not agree with you that I don't. I would be worried about having Duke Johnson as a starter for me, which is probably win. If you drafted him, you were hoping that you could start him on a regular basis. I wouldn't say start him tonight, but I think there's a potential that he cuts into Carlos hides workload. Interesting there. Jarvis Landry is define you. And I guess we could have led with this has been nursing a knee injury, but you said yesterday on the podcast like you're not that concerned about his availability. For tonight. He's never missed a game and nothing that can't change with just one injury, but this is a tough dude who I think as we saw in heart hawks, has it going to say. Aswering falling off the bone. The hamstring was not torn off the bone. And also when you see teams short week, especially early in the season, you've got to manage your players so that you can keep them healthy and you know, we talk about hard knocks, but you did get some insight there. Hugh Jackson saying that he wanted to protect some of the players, not give them too many reps because he wanted to make sure that they were healthy. So this is a coach who's very aware of that. I think the limitation on Jarvis Landry during the week didn't surprise me at all. He comes in, it's questionable. Remember there's no probable anymore. So questionable as anything less than completely certain. We've already heard a port from our Diana Rossini that he's expected to play. I don't think any of that comes prize now through through two weeks of the season and it's early. But would you say you've been. Encouraged by how Jarvis Landry has been utilized in this Brown's offense or about you've expected? I think I think encouraged somewhere in between about what I expected encourage. Okay. Candidly. I mean, it depends on what point are you asking me? Are you asking me before. I, you know, from three weeks prior to the season from when it started or like a week before the season because Josh Gordon's usage was all of them. Like we expected him to have a bigger role and then he wasn't at camp and then he came in. And so it's been a little bit all over the place in terms of where they've with a passing. Offense has been tyrod Taylor candidly has been more inconsistent than I thought he was going to be coming to the season. I'm a big tyrod defender. Yeah, you know, and he hasn't played great. There's there's no question about that. He's had good fantasy days, but he hasn't been. He hasn't been as good a quarterback as I thought he would be. And I did think I, I'll tell you the thing that surprised me the most is due Johnson's lack of usage, so so somewhere in between, like I thought he would be heavily involved. I don't know that it would. He would be as heavily involved as he has been that said, you know, I think you have to play tonight. Oh. I don't think anybody was questioning whether you have to play Jarvis Landry or not. I was just curious. He's tied for tenth in terms of targets through two games. He's averaging eleven targets per game. And you know what's been most interesting by Jarvis Landry. This is kind of where I was getting towards Matthews. He's averaging fourteen point six yards per catch her. That's not Jarvis Landry. That's why I think there's a case to be made that you'll be even more encouraged now Antonio, we, I think we all have them as a top twenty play. Antonio Calo that you have them. Like every back backer your ranking. So like you're thinking about playing a game of darts Thursday night, thinking about preparing for a Bud Light after the game before that you wanna place. Darts Calloway might make your wrist jets have allowed three touchdown passes this season. Every single one of them has been at least nineteen yards. Most we saw the three catches on the four targets last week eighty one yards and a touchdown, much of it. Coming on the one big play. We know his talent is unquestioned, and now that the Browns have moved on from Josh Gordon, Antonio Calloway has locked in as the number two wide receiver on this team, they are going to take some deep shots in this game. And so when you're down that low, when you're in the forties, you're just thinking about Ken somebody get into the end zone. Can you make a big play? So I think in Tonio Calloway given his talent given the fact that tyrod Lux to Chuck at deep given the lack of other receiving options. Again, we'll see if do Johnson gets more involved. It has been a slow start to the season for David joke you. Mike speculation is that the jets defense focuses on Jarvis. Landry given the lack of other weapons there. It could certainly, you could certainly see them getting one deep to Antonio Calloway. So again, I am ranked in the forties, but I'm the only one who ranked him this week among our ESPN ranker's. I do believe there's upside for him certainly tonight, but definitely for the rest of the season he's available in a lot of leagues supposed to find your. Matthew just mentioned David joke who, of course, former star at the u. I'm not terribly terribly concerned about the total catch number right. Seven catches through two games. I think there's a chance seven targets game. Say he's been targeted plenty. My issue is this. He's averaging four point seven yards per catch, right? He's like a slot receiver tight end and you're talking about a guy that's all of like six, four, two hundred and thirty plus pounds. It can run like the wind. Does that bother you at all? It bothers me in the game flow, but I think there's not pretend you're talking about Josh, Gordon being gone. We saw in the preseason again, I was watching hard knocks. We saw the big play potential. David Joko making those big runs down the field. I think that you know, New York Jets allowed. The second most heightened touchdown since the beginning of last season Cording to step from thirsty, Kyle. I think that this is the opportunity for Joe cooed to get more involved. And I think now that there's a clear lane for him to be a guy who can take it down the field, I think that's going to start to happen. Here's my question. Here's my challenge to the Browns. We're only asking for a few things we need you to win tonight. When you do Johnson more involve, we get David joke more involved, and we need tyrod Taylor to play better. Plus we need. Antonio Coweta play tennis net other than that Brown's yet. Nothing else to do math. He tells about some underwear and other stuff. You know, guys, we hear the fantasy focus podcast always thought that me on dis was that really cool unware brand with a fun, crazy prints. It says here on my sheet, but it wasn't until we actually made field. Try them on that. We all it was great. Did you really like it? I love me. Okay. There you go. Also keep going. All right, great underwear, but they have incredibly comfortable socks to like stance immunities. Good to know. Well, they use a micro fabric which is a full three times softer than regular cotton. 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Let's begin with the running backs because they do have to capable running backs. And last week we had the same conversation. I guess I should start there. Do you guys sense that will ever get clarity on which jets back you feel more apt to start? You think if we could just going to be, hey, I think Blau POWs little more likely to score touch on. I think I'm sorry. I think as a little bit more likely to score touchdown law POWs, liberal I could have six catches is that kind of where we're at with this wants to find you. That's how I feel. I mean, that's literally when I was going into the rankings that that was me going well, who do I feel like has and blow Powell to me has been has had the edge so far in the two weeks sample size of we've used. We've always thought that below Powell had potential, but the jets never ever really wanted to give it to him. And the only time he's excelled has been when somebody else has been hurt and he's had that increase. Volume work. But I, I actually like blah Powell a little bit more tonight than Isaiah Crowell. Have you been a bidding courage, Matthew, that Matt, blah pal was nine straight games with ten plus touches, but you and I have Crowell ahead of LA power, and here's the reason why my justification, I imagine it might be the same as yours. We think this could be a low scoring game, right? I don't know what the over under us, but it can't imagine it's more than like forty forty two point. Something like that. Forty. I believe four, right. Yeah. This feels like a ground grinded out win for whoever comes out victorious, it'll be the Browns by the way, which is why I say, well, there's more of the hammer back a little bit ahead of Isaiah of of of Balon pal. No, I agree with you. I've crow l. ahead of Powell. I both inside my top thirty, but you know, I've krill at twenty six. The moment Powell at twenty nine. The reason I have coil slightly hires. You mentioned it in terms of both grinding it out and who's more likely to score score touchdown. All four running back red zone carries for the jets. This year have gone to Isaiah Crowell law Powell's had many chances over the years to be the lead feature back for the jets and they have never wanted to at least under Todd Bowles commit to him as that guy. It is. Definitely, I think I think for the rest of the season, I think I would prefer Isaiah Crowell just slightly because I think there is a chance that at some point is Eric well could be the main running back for the jets. I think there's no chance Powell becomes that guy. I think it's unlikely that Crowley Crowell becomes that guy. Charcoal bowl seems to prefer. For an conversations I've had with them. Like at the combine that stuff, he's always sort of referenced that as well. He likes to backs. He likes a committee. She doesn't like to give it to one guy, but Carell was built to be that guy that if something were to happen to Powell, I think if something were to happen to Crowell they bring in another guy with Powell. This feels like a little bit. I don't want to get hyperbole. I don't know that we have in Alvin Kamara available after week. One of the season that becomes the waiver wire pickup that wins you a championship. Is it possible that Quincy Numa brings you about as much value those any player that was commonly added after week one. I mean, templates targets in two straight games and just feels like the best wide receiver on a jets team that now has a functional quarterback. He's a top eight receiver in both reception share in target share this season in new watch those games like they're manufacturing touches for him like there, whether it, you know, whether it's bubble screens, it's it's, it's a short routes at slants. They're doing different things to try to get the ball in his hands. And so to your point with a functional quarterback and. And that kind of target chair. I agree with you. I don't know that he's Alvin Kamara, but he's certainly somebody that is, you know, I have him at twenty six. You guys were slightly survive at twenty six year slightly lower on him field, but we all have MS viable starter. And so I'm sorry. I was just going to say, I feel like Sam darnold is getting comfortable with him, and there's a lot to be said for that rookie quarterback and and new noise quickly. The guy who last week is the most targets the most yards most catches on the team. Now a new way. Noon way was coming off the next surgery last year, so we didn't really know what to expect. And then he had more opportunity because curse was out. But I think now that that report has been established, why would you go away from it? If you're Sam darnold number part of the disc for trading for Germain curse last year because he was traded in that Sheldon Richardson deal just before the season began was because they didn't have Quint union where he was filling in for a noon run when the noone was hurt. A new Ma, obviously back in the full. The key is the most talented jets wide receiver that's somewhat damning with faint praise 'cause it's not a loaded group, but for now, I think there's a chance that I wouldn't be surprised for finishes with one hundred and twenty targets this year. I think that's completely reasonable, and he's available in thirty percent of leagues mill n ESPN league. So I mean a noon what should be started tonight. I mean to me, he's the, he's the best option for the jets to move the ball forward here because the problems believe it or not Browns actually have a pretty good defense. We'll get to that in just a second because I do want to note that we're not trying to ignore. Oh, Robbie Anderson, but clearly this is a player who's utilization has been slim in the first two weeks. It's got just four catches. Now. We had that one touch down which is kind of emblematic of the player that Robbie Anderson is if you haven't been your lineup tonight. I don't think and I could be wrong here. I don't think your banking on a seventy catch. Sorry. Seven catch eighty five yard one touchdown game. Like you are most likely saying, hey, I can live with three for fifty nine and a touchdown. That's what you're okay with Robbie Anderson because he has so much big play upside and rarely is targeted as frequently as someone like Quincy Noonan. But a good Twitter question who this one I don't know who comes from a tweet actually. I just can't read the name, Keith. Who is this person? Who has this thing about the Browns defense? Menda guy because maybe it's a cousin of somebody, maybe and what's the question? You will have the Browns top ten defenses this week. How comfortable are you in streaming them in this spot? It's like a teed up right to Matthew naturally. Browns tough defenses week. Yeah, I on honestly. I think we talked about it right over under his is like forty points. I think this is going to be a low scoring game Browns have had. I think they've scored at least eight fantasy points in each of the last two games. We don't expect the jets to be kind of an exploding offense here. I mean, it's not like they're playing the lions defense secrets like we expect not gonna go Wayne, you're right. It's not at all back. I'm just saying it's just like they're playing defense here and they're traveling on a short week. So the game is in Cleveland. Boy, that defensive line is is played really. Well. Myles Garrett has has looked like a beast. So first couple of games here. So like ninety six percent of this. He's so talented, it's impressive when a defense alignment plays eighty. That's a huge number eighty percent. He's at like ninety. So I I will tell you, I'm using the Browns and a couple of weeks where I need to stream. And so yes, I think if you're out there in a in a deeper league, probably you know, probably twelve team or deeper league. But if you're if you need a streaming defense, I do like the Browns tonight in what should be a low scoring game at home in Cleveland. I got Brown. Taking the Brown there three and a half point favorites. I got them winning this game three and a half a half really is not ideal. The NFL right now and they always know that's why they get you stiff on you or anybody else. I'm gonna take the jets. Together point. Yeah, I find you here. I'm taking the jets. I think the Browns win this game. I've take the jets. It's gonna come down to their new kicker, believe. Greg, Joseph, I going to. I am also going to take the jets and I will take a side prop it with you. Robbie Anderson under seventy catches. Done para STAN socks. If you get a real, you got it. Okay. So we are official. 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I think we, I think we, we go to glossed over the headline here, which is that through two weeks. Your boy is leading and picks. We didn't. We just we just deliberately avoided saying he does understand bells down there at fifteen. I'm at seventeen. I'm crushing the competition peeled. You and not cool, Keith earned second at sixteen tied for sixteen. Then. S. fifteen thirsty, Kyle thirsty for a win. He's down there. Four can say, I can wake up tomorrow morning all square with you. Then Matthew come on Brown's. Don't let me down here. This is true. You could wake up tomorrow morning. Square with me or down to it's a good point, but man jets you. I want you to get close but not close. I need you get within three and a half. That's all I'm asking that works. I know. But I would like the Browns to win. I'm rooting for the Browns to win over the city. But yeah, but you know, listen as as much as I like the city of Cleveland and I'm rooting for the Browns to win and rooting for the franchise. I don't. I don't like them more than I enjoy beating you so good at the jets have to win, then they have to win. It is what it is. Matthew has a fifty facts column coming out today on ESPN dot com. Yes, we are all company people here. And although love hate is no longer Matthew, you still have players at you're really excited about this week and those that you more cautious. Well, love hate still exists. It just doesn't exist as a written column. So I do love hate segments on NFL, live on the fantasy show on ESPN plus. In fact, today's show for the fantasy show on ESPN plus I'm a company man. That's all right. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Some of us are company people that we, we don't mind saying it's defined. You know, you're just like we just did that, like whatever I get that you just sort of cash your check. For me, to be honest with you, it's about the name of Tibet the name on the front of the jersey, not the back like you, so that's right. I am a company man. That's right secrets. A man can't play that enough for this guy right here anyway. So on the famous shown ESPN plus we have a love hate show is well. And so yeah, they're still we can do. Some love hates here as well. And what I love is fits magic. I a funny fits magic tweet is morning, okay. Fields, having a snack Vom apps. Follow me on Twitter at field Yates. I thought I had a pretty good fits badger tweet this. Okay. What was it was an announcement from the crimson which is Harvard? Yes, aware Harvard latest capital. This was the the original tweet average latest capital campaign raise nine point, six billion dollars for the university. The highest amount ever raised by a single institute of higher education, which I quote tweeted and said, finally, Harvard has the adequate funds needed to build fits magic the statue he deserves, oh, there you go. Not bad. It's good. Do you follow the crimson on often tweet, which is that the that the account, that the passed along the length God, we'd like the things you need to know. But when you live in the state, where did you live in the city? The Boston, fair enough. F- feel well, here's something at exactly. It's so much better when field pitches for people to follow him. Then when you do it, why is that is like so smooth it, he's like, yeah, please follow me. Then he just moves right along. Bless you. I for such that he was allergic criticism. Right there. That was. So I was trying to like sneeze on son who's communist coming on, it's hoping subside. And then it didn't subside until I turned away. No, actually lost it. I decide to cover my sorrows allow allow me to then. Call for a moment timeout. Okay. And resets because we do have videos that wanna cut. Yes. Okay. Let's begin now with love, hate Matthew in one of the players that makes your love for this week is bucking near quarterback, Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yeah, look the offense and the production is ridiculous. Not only is the number one quarterback and fantasy this year, which is insane. When you think about what Patrick Mahomes done and it's good, it's Mahomes has been Fitzpatrick has been better. Here's the most fantasy points through two games of the season by any quarterback since the AFL NFL merger. I mean, that's what we're, we're talking about a historic run. He ranks fourth in average area arts for pass attempts this season. He ranked second in the number of deep passes. He has four different touchdown passes of at least thirty five thirty five yards this year. Why does it matter? Because the Steelers who he plays on Monday night allows has allowed five different touchdown passes of at least fifteen air yards. Most in the NFL they've allowed the second most fantasy points to opposing quarterbacks. Obviously, a lot of that inflated by what Mahomes did to him last week. I think these the recipe as to why fits magic has played so well is there once again on Monday night, it's it. He the buccaneers can't play defense. They can't run the ball and they have really talented, pass catchers. They can get deep. I'm not scared about the Steelers, secondary. I don't know that fits Patrick finishes the week as the number one fantasy quarterback, but I haven't as top ten play this week. I haven't QB six. I think he's a starter and I'm starting him in a number of leagues over. I'm starting them in one league over Jimmy Garoppolo. I'm sorry. I'm in another league over Philip rivers, like I got starter. By the way, as we talked about the Browns and jets having the lowest over under of the week. I, it's actually thirty nine last I saw, but the this Pittsburgh Tampa Bay game has the second highest over under of the week, looking at close to fifty three and a half points. All right, Matthew running back that you love this week. Kenyan Drake, kind of quietly started off pretty solid so far this year. Yeah, you know, look, I wasn't a huge Drake fan coming into the season, and we will see if he remains healthy. One of my arguments against him was that I don't think he was built to be a record or correspondent, and I don't think he was going to be used as a work horseback. But last week he was the twelfth best running back and fantasy fifteen for seventy a touchdown against the jets. And now he gets a home game against the raiders defense. That is a bottom ten defense against running backs over the last sixteen games. They've allowed the second most rushing yards. Two opposing running back so far this season, and they've allowed running backs to average a league high four point one, three yards per carry before I contact it real- really boils down to in terms of Drake, what's your confidence that the Miami Dolphins are leading this game or at least competitive. And candidly, west coast team traveling east. I feel pretty confident that the dolphins will be competitive in this game, if not win it one more. And let's go back to that Monday night football games within the Steelers and the buccaneers juju Smith Schuster. Who last night tweeted? About how ninja? Yep. First round ninja force, the gaming legend? Yeah, draft. The juju Smith Schuster in the first round. Apparently ninjas also a side has a side gig as a fantasy expert open invitation for ninja to come on this podcast. Anytime he wants, it'd be the one time. My fourteen year old would be impressed with me like because all my fourteen year old does is played fortnight or watch ninja bright for night, like pretty much every other fourteen years. Typical fourteen year old. Yeah, exactly. So another very cool. So ninjas on the cover of ESPN the magazine this week, and there's a, there's a feature story about him. So check it out on ESPN dot com. Once again, I'm a company man. The fine. Yeah. So that those very, very cool. Yes. Ninja, not maybe as good and fantasy football as he is at fort night. I don't know that anyone is as good for fantasy. Football as ninja is at fort night because I don't know that you wanna take juju Smith Schuster in the first round, but I will say he's closer a first round talent than people might realize I am as a top ten fantasy wide receiver. Did you know since week fifteen of last year? No wide receiver. The NFL has more fantasy points than juju Smith Schuster not even his teammate and Tonio Brown. So I think about the you think about the candidate chiefs who only the buccaneers have allowed more passing yards this season. It's been a bad secondary for Kansas City. I don't expect it to get better here. He's been a top five receiver in catches and yards this season. I mean, so the buccaneers bad defense as well. We expect a shoot out to your point about sort of hi over under. Think there's going to be one of the highest scoring games in the NFL Smith Schuster to me a locked in wide receiver one, which is not where he was drafted in most drafts. Let's go back to the. The hate side of this and we're gonna start with Russell Wilson before we get to Matthews insight. We do have a note via Watson, the Kyle will share from IBM Watson about Russ Russell Wilson's outlook for this week. IBM Watson, not liking this. They give Russell Wilson a twenty two point, nine percent chance to bust this week in score under twelve points while chance of hitting his twenty three point, seven points healing is just eight percent. Are you comfortable starting him this week against the Cowboys. When I rice, I tied my top ten look, the Cup was have allowed. Just one passing touchdown this season and look, you know, they haven't necessarily played the toughest competition, but the fact that matter is thing they are creating pressure at the sixth highest rate. We saw the bears get after Russell Wilson on Monday nights, six sacks, and he was constantly pressured. During during a Russell Wilson's career? No team is allowed pressure more often in the Seattle Seahawks. They're traveling on a short week as well. This game is in Seattle, but they played Monday night in Chicago. So I think this is another sort of low scoring game here. I'm nervous about the offensive line. We've talked a lot on this show about how Russell Wilson starts slow last three years. He's been much lower through the first five games this season. Then he has week six on. So I, I have Russell Wilson outside my top ten. I haven't QB fourteen. Yeah, you'd have to be in a fourteen team league twelve or fourteen league. It would depend on your options obviously. But yes, I prefer. I prefer some guys that are available in a lot of leagues, including Ryan Fitzpatrick over Wilson this week to volunteer in the same boat there. One thing I'd say about Russell Wilson is he kind of has that David Johnson vibe to me in this regard, is that like his struggles are largely not his own doing yes, the pieces around him. Let's go to Michael Crabtree Matthew, the raiders ravens wide receiver who faces a familiar foe in the Broncos because when he did play for the rave raiders he played them a bunch of times, but you're nervous. I am a little bit. So I mean, I have him as my wide receiver. Thirty eight. Okay. By the way, if he finishes at wide receiver, thirty eight this week, that would be better than a season average. I mean, he's, he's, he's a the forty third best receiver and fantasy so far this season. He's conscious fifty percent of his target so far this year. And then obviously the Denver defense is not a great match up here. Denver has allowed the fifth fewest fantasy wide receiver points since the beginning of last seat. AJ green key. Now in twice Jarvis Landry t y Hilton. Have all played the Broncos the beginning of last year. Pretty good names. They are right keenum Allen twice agent, green Jarvis Landry t y Hilton. The four of them averaged eleven point. Four fantasy points per game against the Broncos. Obviously t y Hilton Head Jacoby percent as his quarterback, but still not one of them caught more than five passes in this matchup. I just don't see Joe flacco going in there and lighting lighting it up with Michael Crabtree. I'm nervous about it even though the Bronx, the ravens offense is better than it has been in years past. I need to see it more consistently from Crabtree to start him against the Broncos. I'm feeling like I'm I ski today. You know, I got the Browns winning tonight. I kinda wanna board bet Michael Crabtree Centric board bed. Okay. You've got him at thirty eight. I got him at twenty eight. Okay. We normally would split the difference at thirty three, but because I'm feeling I'm feeling nice today. I'll give you. I think my she will be a top thirty two wide receiver. This? Okay. Wow, sure. I say he will not be a top thirty two wide receiver. I say Michael Crabtree will not be a top thirty two wide receiver. This week I will the top thirty to wide receiver this week put on board on the board the get that out there. One more player that makes your hate list Matthews, Evan Ingram for the giants who really, really struggled a week one little better though in week two. Yeah. Look, I have as a tight end seven remember the love hate list is all about expectations. And so every Ingram who's like a top four fantasy tight end last week, look, the tight end position is so brutal that you have to that. You're starting anyone with a pulse and certainly have an increment. So you're starting Evan Ingram, make no mistake about that, but I would lower some expectations here. I'm a little nervous about about this since the beginning of last year. They're only three times a tight end has totaled more than sixty seven receiving yards against the Houston Texans, rob gronkowski rob gronkowski again, Travis Kelsey, although Kevin Ingram, he's he's not. He's not at that level yet, at least in my opinion. So if we're saying that he's not getting more than sixty seven yards here or that it's unlikely you need them to get into the end zone. Right needs to score to be to be worth it? Well, not only Zona has fewer red zone trips this year than the New York Giants had offense is really struggled through two games the season when Oto Beckham's out. Evan green Ingram has a twenty nine percent reg own chair, red zone, target chair. But when Odell Beckham is active, like he will be on Sunday. He has just a fifteen percent red zone target share. So my expectation is is I think it's unlikely that they get to the red zone that often and when they do, I don't think Eli manning is necessarily looking for Evan Ingram. So you're just you're basing to hoping to luck out for a blown coverage with a touchdown, which is what happened Sunday night against the Dallas Cowboys. Again, I haven't as tight end seven. I'm just I'm lowering expectations for Evan Ingram. He's not somebody I would use in daily except as a contrarian play in GP. Well, that's definitely doable to find you on draftking speaking of daily Matthew. You like bragging rights and I like huge cash prices. 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Now for a Twitter bonanza if you will and Daniel, do you want to handle the asking of the questions or I'm let Keith to it. Are you ever go Keith fire way? This is rapid fire sort of QNA style. So what do you got. I've been told these are in order of importance. The first one is from at Kyle soppy ESPN at what record you start to panic and make risky moves. Thinking that you have nothing to lose. I'm not sure. So I think that if you're Owen to which is the worst, you could be at this point, but you're in the top half of your league in scoring. For example, then I don't have any issue with you standing Pat and riding out. Once you get to Owen three, I think that's the point where no matter how much bad luck I've had. I'm not afraid to rock the boat a little bit. I've made some trade offers so far this week, but I think Owen three is where you start to really panic and make risky moves Owen two years. It's still very early. Also, it depends on basically the size your league and how many, how many playoffs obvious and and why you're into like you could be the highest scoring team in your in your in your league, but you've just, you know, or the third highest or whatever. Just each week you've played the one highest scoring rhyming. You're like, you know what? I've just had some bad luck that's going to correct itself or or you're just like, Wow, I've had a lot of injuries and I need to really sort of like get it, get it going. But like so like I'll give you example. I'm Owen to in the celebrity leak and I like my team there. I just. Last week was just a bad week in terms of like Garoppolo Garoppolo was brutal. Gronkowski was brutal. So my running backs were brutal last week. So yeah, I mean, like I, I, you know, it's a fourteen league. I think I'll be fine there. I'm not panicking just yet. They're also Doug Baldwin's hurt that doesn't help in a fourteen league. Moving along. Next Keith EA legend wants to know. I have Kenny golladay and Larry FitzGerald for one spot. Is it to the point where I put in golladay weekly, barring a significant matchup favoring fits as opposed to the other way around. I think right now, I'm okay with winning Kenny in. I think I have fits rated slightly higher, but if you wanna put getting kindergart- like clearly there's more upside their way more upside and until they prove that they're really gonna take a different tack. There's on offense. I would agree, got a less than one hundred percent. Larry FitzGerald with a bat. Offense playing the bears against kindergarten and what should be a shootout Sunday night at home against the patriots. Yeah. I mean, if when you read the fifty facts com, you'll see a lot of very positive Kennedy. Stats are next up. Aaron Wilson wants to know if there is a single Washington wide receiver worth rostering l. defer to the local expert. I don't believe so candidly. I don't have a problem if you wanna keep Jamison Crowder and hoping for better things. But so far through two games. They haven't been able to move the ball about effectively the best wide receiver on the Redskins have been Chris Thompson. I mean, he leads the team in receptions and targets. They're spreading it around. Josh Dotson is like one of the league leader in snaps in is just very toothless so far. And so in terms of his fantasy production, Paul Richardson, I like, it's it. I think, I think as a as a collective, I think they're fine group of receivers, and I think it's fine for the NFL, but in terms of fantasy, it does not believe it does not appear that any pass catcher with the exception of Jordan Reed or Chris Thompson has emerged. What is so funny to find you. Toothless toothless. Does he actually not have teeth? We're still stuck onto? No, they don't. I don't have to. You haven't heard the phrase toothless about, like just not having. All the time in World War Two. It's okay. No big deal. Off what else we got. I do. I move on here. Awkward pause here. I don't think it's a weird phrase at all. Have no bite. Because there without teeth. I what else keep is it lady on bell related question here from coordinate the Mary Hampshire dot com according to merriam Webster dot com. So many examples of toothless in a sentence. Liverpool fans were impressed by Marshall's performance away at Brighton. As once again, the Manchester club looked toothless registering just three shots on target in the ninety minutes. Losing one. Oh, on the night. So there you go in the dictionary. That's example. It using some of us are brandy brains, you know, not all of us went online and got our college degrees at at Princeton dot com. Yeah, because that's where you do it. That's how you do it lady unveil related question from ATs manual, snap. Just that's what it says here. If you're a top team and the team with bell is fading in the standings, what sort of offer would you send try to take advantage of the win now urgency for your trade partner? So you have lady on bell. And you are in a good spot to acquire him. You can afford to stash him. Is the question right? So what sort of offering making? So I'm just gonna start to think around like if I could get lady on bell four and I don't know if you get this or not, but for example, I trade Jordan Howard for him. I think a number two running back or wide receiver for me. I was just going to say number two receiver. Yeah. That would be my preference. I'm leptin to give up running backs in this league, especially with the, we just don't know. We leave me about. Ultimately, that's the problem is you don't know. He could be sitting on your bench for multiple weeks if you trade for him, but somebody else could really need a receiver and you might be stacked because he repetition. I think it depends. Candidly, on the situation of the person that has lady on Belen the roster. Honestly, if I'm to an old lady on bell, I'm not trading if I'm Owen to then I'm right. So I mean that's part of it too, like, so you need to sort of look at the person that has lady unbalanced the roster and figure out what that person needs and why that person would have motivated to trade lay on bell. Like I have leaving on bell in the in the show league that we do not the show. I'm sorry, not the show league in the ESPN fantasy staff league that I play with in with both of you guys and you know care bell and Mike clay interest in and everyone. Right? Ken dobby, and I'm too and Owen that league. So I'm like, good. He. Yeah, yeah. So whatever eleven, Bill Levy on bell will come back even though Jim McCormack snake, James, Connor for me. That's all right. Fantasy karma. Got him because I still beat James McCormack even though he had James Connor against me and I didn't have lady on Belen week one what else? That's right. What else. What else hairs about your team? Don't you know that? What else? Keith, I just wanted to take the opportunity to call. Jim McCormack could work. Zach may wants to know, said Matthew earlier earlier mentioned that Josh Gordon's value potentially was peeking before even takes the field is with the same apply for Aaron Jones. No. And here's the reason why Mike McCarthy, the Packers coach said on Wednesday me chest, Aaron Jones is he's, he's the Third Reich. Then like the third running back. He's basically he's been more pleased with time on gummy and Jamaal Williams than those who roster them and fantasy football have been wanted to keep in mind that has always been a factor in Green Bay. And it's been discussed on this podcast and by many other fantasy analysts is that you know in running back play, you do have to cut it and prioritize being able to do things like pickup protections, hold your own in tough situations. You know the things that don't necessarily contribute to your fantasy box score, reliability, and Jamaal Williams and time on. Gumri old specifically Williams way have much explosiveness, but he has a lot of the other stuff. The not intangibles with things that go like gloss, we gloss pass and fantasy football enter talk about earlier, but the need for Aaron Rodgers to be protected doesn't they're placing a premium on that right now. It definitely gives the edge to Jamal Williams. What else you got forest? Keith have a nonsense related one here, which I'm sure everybody will enjoy men from Lucas says, which of the following has the highest lifetime total. Okay. So there's four things here, different craft brews sampled by field. It worked trips in quotes by by Stefania. Right. Boondoggle ING. Words slash phrases added to the English dictionary by Matthew. You had time and volume. And bands. You've never heard of that. Daniel listens to. They, Matthew runs away with it. Just gonna. Throw that out there. Okay. You mean he scooters away with it? I, I think we'd not after go to pet. Like the word of the English thing you're, you're crazy. I. Boy, I mean, different craft brews sampled by field seems to be like the obvious answer because it's so much easier to get easy to easier, much easier to to sampling craft beer than it is to create a phrase out of nowhere added to the English language, right? Or for boondoggle somewhere, she she, but she 'cause divine is normally here. Mostly during the season. She boondoggles maybe once a month during the season out of season, it's a constant boondoggle. So that's the close second for me. And who knows? I mean, Daniel could say like I'm listening to the the flaming crab patties that I'd be like, is that a band? I don't know. So that's one where there's no way to check Eddie's father of a young watch SpongeBob of here. I don't know the. Actually, really good band name. Well, yes, crab Pat. He's not crabby patties SpongeBob. 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The Kist & Solak Show #36: Tate's Role, Nelly's Worth, & Film Review

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The Kist & Solak Show #36: Tate's Role, Nelly's Worth, & Film Review

"They. Hi, this is Jim chica- our podcast step over will be ballers podcasts that work for all of your Sixers needs. Says game breakdowns with a course in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts heathen, I tune Stitcher sparked by or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Michael kissed Benjamin solar. It's the Kistin Solex show presented by SP nation and leading nation. You are why in high on the kissed and so lack show episode thirty six brought to you by the fine folks have Espy nation and bleeding greed nation as always I'm your host, Michael kissed. Follow me on Twitter at Michael kissed NFL. It's K ISD as always joined by the best dog co host in the game, Mr. eight year streak without a bad day Benjamin. So lack follow him on Twitter at Penn Jamin. So like, that's S O L A K, Ben are you doing better than Kyle a letter right now, Mike, I'm always having a good day and Cal probably having a bad day. So I think I what is yes. That is going to be the answer. Well, and just to clarify what I'm talking about the if you've been living under a rock he was recently. What was it arrested for nearly hitting a cop going the wrong way twice in traffic in two consecutive days? And on the second day nearly hit an officer who is standing there. So things are looking fantastic in New York as always. But Ben, I'm not sure if you're doing better than Kylo that it because you have a correction and a mission to make okay, I have sixty five percent of a cartoon emission. It was it was pointed out to me that philadel-. I said, you know, Philadelphia should've waited to sign Nelson. I if you're option, and it was pointed out to me Philadelphia could not have waited much longer than they did the fifth year option deadline passed in may and they signed him to in April. Yes. But then just don't sign into the fifth year option. I've thought they would have the ability to sign at this year. They don't but still obviously hindsight's twenty twenty but still they're clearly at a point where they should not have signed to the federal auctions. So just don't take the fifth year option. Right. Like after. Season. He's currently having eight games in right things. Let's say things don't really change for Aguilar using age it would be able to negotiate a nine point five million dollars for your contract, Mike. I mean, that's a good question. But you're also taking taking the risk there that knowing what we know now maybe not but the wide receiver market is weird dude than they would be in the ballpark. I guess here's here's all I'm saying, obviously, hindsight's twenty twenty obviously Agla orca came out and could have been just as productive as he was last year. It is worth noting that the only player the eagles really lost was Tori Smith as far as receiving option goes, right? And you would intimidate that. That loss would make Agra's depth of target increase deputize across his first three seasons. Average at ten point six it is currently at like eight point one or something. Right. So we've lost over two yards. Okay. So you assume it would make it increase. It has decreased Adler been good for one season in three and a half years as an NFL player. But what what what happens now with gold with golden Tate in the building? Okay. Don't dispute that things could get better with golden in the building. But are you gonna pay a guy nine point five million dollars to be good? When there are two other good receivers all your team is that like you're also saying better, this is this is what the eagles are clearly asking him to do from route depth perspective. What they want him to do is work. You know this short the short stuff when really he's better down the field working those intermediate areas of the field. So it's not necessarily that we get we get caught up with this idea that galore is bad. Because of what the team is asking him to do or isn't as good. Because of what the team is asking him to do is different this year. So, of course, was numbers are going to look a lot different. I think Adler still a dog on good football player that could work the intermediate, the feels and I think you're gonna see that golden Tate. Let me ask you this. Don't look how how many yards did I go overseas for last year? How many cameras receiving let's say seven hundred and eighty yes. Out hundred sixty eight. What was his catch percentage? I'm gonna put it at sixty seven percent sixty five percent while I'm good. Okay. All right yards per reception. Eleven point nine twelve point four. Okay. Ten million dollars? How many touchdowns eight? Okay. Eight touchdowns in is other three in his other. Let's see he had twenty first two seasons in eight game. So in thirty six games in twenty fifteen sixteen eighteen he has three receiving touchdowns cone come on. And then, you know, no don't do with the with the two years. Situational punched John's touchdowns to me are not a sticky statistic. Yeah. And he was awesome in the red zone last year. I mean, he is a red zone threat. They aren't target in there that that much this year 'cause they're they're really zero in on on Zakar DHS, and and Ron Jeffrey, but he's a threat there too. He's he's a threat from twenty to twenty n inside the red zone. So him nine point five million to be your third best reds on threat because L Sean, Jeffrey and Zakar Zakar is like one of the best red zone receivers in the league. Are you? How are you gonna put him up to that? You're really saying with what wide receivers are getting right now, I'm gonna pull up over the cab. I already have an hour to have it up already have it up. How many how many how many receivers are getting paid more than nine point five million this year go to two thousand nineteen because that's that's where the nine point five when he would get it. Right. Twenty one wide receivers next year that would get over nine point five mill his range is around what Michael Crabtree. And devante Parker are getting not counting any new free agents that signed next year. He's better. He's better than all the dudes like right around him. Although I really love is better than devante Parker. Get out of the building. You're saying that Nelson or isn't better on my God. Dude. If you're gonna throw stand there, we we everybody stop, everybody's not. I thought we were saying Davante Adams Parker. I take everything back. Everything back. I thought it was divided atoms. Monte Barker, I was I was about to. Adams Adams is only like five more until I looked at Adams while you were saying Parker. Away. He tried to convince me now Zagladin Montana. I read that everything I I agree. A lot of the people on on top of that list are better than him. Are I would agree with that? But I think that price range for for what you're looking at in that price range from those wide receivers is completely reasonable for next year. Albert Wilson eight point three Marvin Jones, eight point one Muhammed's new seven point four. Travis Benjamin six point five Taylor. Gabriel six point five rubber woods six point. One rubber woods. I would say should be compensated more than than that. Like, that's the one name that stands out to you can tell me that you like Agla right around that figure where Crabtree where Parker are. And where stills is. But here's my end Markey's leonine. Right. So the two above him are still nine point seven Parker at nine point three then is do blow or Crabtree had nine point three Markey's leonine. Here's my thing. Mike, I think if you were to go to dolphins fans and Jaguars fans and say, hey of the Kenny stills Parker Markey's lead deals. Good all of them would say, no. And then Michael Crabtree. The ravens you and have a debate. So we're looking at okay, you think aggo is worth that much. Everybody around him. I would argue overpaid. What's the what's the cost of doing business? That's what the market is. Ben, you can't change the market. And I like the Wilson deal. Unfortunately, he's out for the season. But he's a dog on good football player at eight point three million dollars. That's a solid deal. If I were dolphins fan. I would say, I'm totally cool. Definitely not. Devante Parker at nine point three. That's your stupid front office making bad contracts. Michael crabtree. At this point in his career is not worth nine point three. I would agree with that. But at the same time, what are you gonna pay him? You're going to pay 'em like like Taylor Gabriel at six point five or Allen Hearns at six point to like what what do you want us to gonna pay him? That would keep him in the building. You know, what I'm gonna pay him. I'm gonna pay him less than what I would be paying golden Tate. If I could just release Adler this year, get accomplished for them and keep tail roster. That's what I would pay him. What are you seeing as the the Detroit Lions did not expect Tate to resign with them? What would you expect the two thousand nineteen number for golden Tate's number to be in? What range are we talking like Doug Baldwin rains like because look Baldwin is that like thirteen mill would you say that's a fair arrange for him. Now granted he's he's going to be thirty one. So there's that I don't think golden Tate gets double digits as an average. Per year. So you think he's around? Can I still remember Mike when I was projecting in the Nelson piece when I was projecting. Tate's Compaq, I'm projecting fifth round. Right. Which means he's not getting a huge contract. So something like Mohammed to new around lake seven point four around there. Yes. Oh, man. If I could choose between Tate at seven point four and at nine point four, and I will get a compact, regardless. It's Tate ninety five ten times. Now is this based on? Okay. Let's let's say that Nelson galore is producing at the same level that he that. He did last year. Let's call it flat across the board. Yes. So that's that's like twelve point three yards per -ception currently at nine point one yards per reception. So let's say that production is consistent from last year to this year. Because I think he's I think he's largely the same player being asked to do something different. Would you still prefer that? Because I know. Yeah, nellie. If Nellie was bad for two years, and then he was good in twenty seventeen. And he continued be good in two thousand eighteen. Absolutely. Gimme the younger player who looks his. Game more several. He's still good. He's still good how Mike okay? I don't. Okay. I tell me tell me tell me what he's doing at a lower level this year from what he's being asked to do other than not being as dynamic consistently after the catch. Right. But it it's not even that. It's not even like, what is he doing worse? It's obviously Philadelphia used him in twenty seventeen we believe, and we'll go back to the tape in check that he was used more as an intermediate route runner, and he was used more as a as a guy who could get depth of target. And then you could hit him in striding continued run with the football. He was used more in the red zone. Okay. Let's like that's how he was using twenty seventeen. Even if he still has that capacity if Philadelphia's not gonna use him that way, which they have not used in that way yet in two thousand eighteen then he's not that valuable on nine point five million. Right. He isn't right. If he's going to play the Josh huff role. I don't wanna play him nine point five million dollars. Now, if they get him back into that role and things moose back up again. Okay. I still would love. To see them. You know, try to make incentive like one year nine point five million. Give me like three years with an average of like six million like how much prefer that, you know, give him longevity in a lower capital because it still feels like too much to understand. We're talking about one year at nine point five million. We're not talking about an average life of a new deal at nine point five million. It's one year absolute. So it's one year nine point five million in which either a he underplay underplays. And then you've got to accept the fact that you spent nine point five million on a guy who didn't return to value or be he plays to that value. And when you sit down with him at the table, give started figure is five million. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know about that look how he's awesome at these contracts that you gotta think about that. To look we are for what we wanted to talk about a less, you have a closing point. But this is the last thing I want to look at is. And over the cap is it's loading. It's loading the producers of pulling up over the cat, very slowly. I think I'm out of accidentally just add to so now. Our screwed. Okay. We're fine. I wanna see the percentage of their cap Philadelphia currently has allocated to wide receivers because this team has put good amount of money now into why receivers Agla stays in that point five mill I do think it's either or situation with Nelson Aguilar Angleton tape bringing them both back together with als on Jeffrey on the roster is well would be very difficult. The only avenue I can see Tate really, and the this'll be a good transition into the actual film on Golden State, which is the topic of today's the first half of today's. Yeah. Tae really just didn't get aglet. Didn't get downfield. Looks take religious. Didn't get downfield logs, right? Like Tate was used. So it's okay for tape. But it's not cool for nearly. We know. Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. Okay. Well, that's that's just not the point. That's being made right now when I made it with Marvin Jones and Kenny golladay as the two receivers on the primary outside receivers for the lions Tate was very frequently used as a check down. Mike Tate was simply. Listen Ron cross the middle of the field. And if it's man keep running and if its own stop running, and if there's pressure mass apps gonna throw to you and pick up four yards, but sometimes Brig attack when pick up like twenty like just like that was his primary deployment. And so the only way I could see Tate being retained is if tape recognizing that he's getting older than thirty comes to a locker room that players have been very clear that they love right on a quarterback that that a lot of players love to play for right? A stellar quarterback. A great offensive mind. Let's not forget the eagles. Current offense coordinator is an ex wide receiver coach. So there's a lot of love for that in the building. And I was talking with Brad Kelly the other day break is wide receiver guy. But how Sean Jefferies just releases route running drastically improved to plays where set the Jaguars tape with with Jeffrey route running, but will the that's different matter. So it's good place receives his older guy. And Philadelphia's very successful with him and Tate starts to get more. Like interesting routes and more dynamic plays. And he gets the ball in his hands. Actually downfield born he enjoys it. Then perhaps we're talking about a situation where he's a veteran discount player the twenty nineteen free agent wide receiver class is not that strong. And so taken probably go make decent money out on the open market. But if he wants to stay in Philadelphia, and he's willing to take that veteran discount than that's the only way could see all three of them staying if that were to happen. They absolutely would have to come to camp. And be like, hey, then I point five million is not guaranteed. We'd like to negotiate that figure down and extend you for multiple years, obviously, they don't have a ton of leverage there because the threat would be. And if you don't negotiate it down, we cut you. But if we cut you don't get a Compaq from you. So it's very hard to there's no not a leverage there. But that's the only way see Tayag or stay. That's the only avenue if that were to happen. People would say, oh, well, Philadelphia's not going to get the Compaq trade a third for Tate will if they signed Tate it's harder to write number one. You're keeping Tate number two. It's harder now because you put. Money into Tate to recite Jordan Hicks, ran Graham, while Darby and when those guys walk you get context, right? So kind of it's not about getting the Compaq from Tate. It's about introducing Tate to the pool of twenty nineteen free agents will lead to more complex and potentially more high priced complex in the twenty twenty draft that that's kind of the best way to look at it tastes. Now. A piece of the puzzle like the umbrella in which you put that under anything else on take a new you have a great piece on bleeding greenish dot com where you broke down his games, his his strengths. How he was used was anything specific that you saw that Detroit. Did that you feel translates to what the eagles might try with him and Nelson galore coexisting together along with Sean Jeffrey, of course, a absolutely contacted as how many slots are there on the field. Mike like going Tate is a slot receiver. How many slots there on the field from you can typically get like two on the field unless you're going? You can get two slots that by the definition of a slot receiver. He is. The innermost receiver in the formation. But what makes a slot receiver valuable? What makes a rob from the Slough valuable? We always have to go back. Like, what's the what's the origin here? What's the reason? And what makes the slot? Interesting. Is that you have to way go from the slot when you're outside receiver and you're lined up three yards from the sideline. You can't go outside. There is no outside. Right. You're going downfield or inside. And that leads corners play you in different ways. They play you with leverage using the sideline as help from the slide. You can go inside or outside. That's why you like your quicker guys there because they can really maximize that inside outside versatility. Well, nobody said you have to put your outside receivers all the way outside. So while they're only two slots one on each side of the formation. You can really have four receivers with inside outside civility at the releases. And this is something Philadelphia has frequently done. Philadelphia loves to come out in their twelve personnel. And they'll make sure that they're running bunches in the running nasty splits in the running wings and essential. Giving three receivers usually galore Erz and daughter the potential of both release inside outside. Now, when you're tight end is on the line and inside release isn't as much of a threat simply because he'll be inside releasing into linebackers. So he has to get through that to get to the other side of the field. But when we're talking about a two man stack Mike so take the slot receiver. And then just put another dude behind him will now you've got two releases for both of them. Both can go inside both new outside of they can they can alternate. And it's very difficult to get hands on that back receiver the behind receiver in the stack. You can't press him because there's a body in the way that's a great opportunity from look screens, right? Where you just throw that screen. If you read high loci ridge, what we call cap coverage for this one corner way up there, and then there's one safety way back opportunity for those quick read screens, and then a lotta route concepts something Detroit used a lot of Philadelphia will use a lot of out of those situations. Detroit ran gonna take on multiple out nuts right in this route. The eagles have loved to use was Akers. You. Take that flat defender and you pull him in by lining up in a reduce split by lining up in the slot with your outside receiver going out receiver. But in the slot lined up close to the formation you pull that flat defender in. And so when you run that little out route he has to react, and he has to come outside. He's not outside already waiting for it. Yes. To come outside. Right. He has to move in so's momentum gets going outside. Trump things backup field the important thing with golden Tate. He's not as quick as used to be. He absolutely isn't. He is still very quick. He is still a swift little bugger, but because Tate's been doing this for a while. He's very very savvy. He's got fantastic instincts. There are multiple plays the touchdown against the Dallas Cowboys on the slot comeback route which another outfit off you should integrate. You can find on my time. Find host touchdown against the twenty plus yard game against Miami. On a little sit rally. I was talking about just check down. He was just checked out in the middle of the field on both plays. Golden Tate makes defender Missa tackle with his back. To the defender, and he makes defender Missa tackle because he's been in those situations so much that he knows how that approach is coming. He knows the timing of he knows where it's week. He knows how to how to scoot outside of their how to duck underneath it. Just really great savvy is the work. He's a thirty plus receiver. Who isn't what are you physically used to be? But he's very savvy. He's very very top dog. He's a dog he loves to break tackles. He always gets dirty yardage. He's very aggressive. He celebrates literally every play I loved him to death. He's he's a ton of fun to Washington regard. So I think going to taste better tackle breaker than Nelson Agla. Oh, so I think going to take one hundred I think I think golden Tate warrants more of the jet sweep touches and the short yards in the quick throw touches ball in his hands. He's a better yet guy than Adler. I think the reason is better tackle breaker. Avatars probably more explosive on a straight line, but adults should still get those touches because he's very explosive space. Absolutely. Certainly tate's. Gonna bite into yours short yardage touches Agra. Gotta jet sweep against the against the Jaguars. That should probably be Tate's Adler got like three bubble screens against the cold. So she'll probably be taints on. Yeah. That's going to open up Adler to do more of what he did against the Jaguars. You know, thirty plus yard completion running a depot around a levels concepts. That's where I go or should be getting more looks. And that's very exciting. That's what will boost up as numbers. Mike will be very happy. We'll pay too much money. Yeah. No. I agree. I fully trust this coaching staff to be able to fully utilize the skill set of to quote on quote slot wide receivers because of all the condense sets that we use and type missions to that point. I know I've talked a lot so abusive. I said this earlier, and I still believe it. I'm not gonna say that like how he wasn't into the trailer. He didn't wanna do it this to me feels more like a Doug trade a how he trade. I think we're both on board. I think they collaborate as Jeffrey Loria told us jillion times very collaborative and they worked together, and it's great ends a positive environment. I think how about it. I don't really think you need a much convincing. But to me, you know, just the general manager is gonna look at Tate and say, I don't really see how Tate solves our offense. The problems in terms of like takes a slug is underneath guy allies a slug is what would you here to me? That was the situation. More Doug probably looked at Tate looked at tape on whether grow or to brewer press Taylor, whoever it was. You know, and somebody in that offense of coaching staff or they had the idea where they said, listen, if we do this that and the other thing we deploy him in this way. And we use these causes that worked really well for us said at a da. Yes. Take in solve a lot of our problems that that to me the office of coaching staff really had to be the driving force behind the straight. So I have full faith that they selected Tate with a clear plan in mind for him. That's kind of the overarching point there. Yeah. Yeah. No, they're not. They're not picking him. If they don't have that plan in mind for for sure, they're not going after him in that case. They already know how they wanna utilize him in what that means for the rest of the offense. We just need to see a play out because right now, we're in that period of the unknown where a lot of it is conjectured. But I do see it playing out very well for the offense. Obviously a win now move which is encouraging. You can make that move because you'd be the Jaguars go to foreign four and you have five divisional games left to go. So at this offense can get rolling and start to give some pieces back than it's going to be very fun. What this offense can be at its height with golden Tate in one of the reasons is. You've got a quarterback Carson Wentz points really dog on football. And it's not showing up like it should on the scoreboard because some of those lag the lack of weapons at the wide receiver position the lack of a true to number two receiver. And I saw a lot of people talking about, you know, like we needed a deep threat will, you know, what place shelter Gibson more suit that looks like that's the that's that's a non starter from you can get explosive plays in the intermediate area. Not everything needs to be a fifty yard bomb. All of that's good for me. I fully trusted this coaching staff is going to make the most out of golden Tate. Ben, let's get to the all twenty two film reviewer a little bit late on it this time because of the Tate news dropping and also the coaches film for the eagles Jaguars game was really weird. The broadcast version we couldn't click on the place to to navigate through it. And then when the coaches film drop they dropped half a game. Luckily, that's been fixed since then game pass is made by the devil. So let let's talk about this game. I actually wanna talk about Schwartz. I want to talk about Jim Schwartz on out result. Douglas. On the defensive side. There's been a lot of talk about how gyms dialed up some heat. We talked about Schwartz shying away from the blitz. And I specifically remember saying that with Tampa Bay game. I play the game. He comes with some heat with a linebacker in a corner, and they got beat and then the rest of the game. Healy blitz five times in this game. The first blitz that they bring third in eight with ten seconds left in the first quarter. We a little bit for it. But the Jaguars hold the ball too much in the first quarter. They're double mug in the Jenkins's threatening off the edge of the right tackle, he comes clean Bortles has to step up which leads right into Chris long for the cleanup sack that for me made me think that it gave Schwartz the confidence to continue to bring the heat. And I'll tell you a Borrell's, of course, does not deal the heat. Well, listen, I love the fact that you brought that blitz because the second I saw that blitz. I thought to myself all this is that on this is that pass rush lane retention thing that Mike wrote about when Schwartz clinic, right? Because you've got the potential mug with the linebackers. You've Jiang extra guy coming off. And Jenkins extra guy. Winds off the edge, Chris long. I believe it was Brandon Graham on the interior stunt and in stunting, it frees up Chris Law to kind of act as a quasi spy in that big app. Right. So you're the scheme is generate pressure in the D gap. But Schwartz made sure with that little twist that he's got a a player who is currently disengaged not being blocked because of the twist in that big apps when Bortles steps up away from the gap pressure. Chris long waiting this is the thing. So proud of him. Yeah. They did a lot of that too. But they're only to blitzes in the first half, and there were two sex and that second one that they had here that was second quarter second nine with four forty one left. The Jags driving to the eagles forty-two. They bring Malcolm Jenkins again off the edge. And they're bringing him off that that right side where which is the the ball hand for like. Portal's? Now, he gets a one on one Carlos Hyde who is what you would call stout in as a pass protector and that aspect actually landed him in the doghouse McConnell Shanahan in San Francisco last year. So Jenkins wins that and spooks Bortles and it gets cleaned up by Hicks and Bennett. So they were bringing those blitzes. Yeah. Two places in the first half two sacks. Now, how did that impact? His play calling in the second half. Third play the second half six band blitz. Jenks and Hicks to the ball hand side again. So going back to a word Bortles want to escape to where do we want him escaping? We want him escape ING away from his ball hand. We want him escaping left. That's gonna come a big later in this game. When when we talk about Rousseau Doug Douglas specifically. So that's Bruce Bortles early throw. Great job on that play by resold. Douglas's work relationship with a wide receiver to turn up feel from coverage. Steer and widen. Limit that window on the side. I thought I thought if I turned early on that play the second I saw that. I was like man I'm coming back with deep comeback next drive. They didn't hit it. But I had heard early. I think if like Douglas has a slower transition phase than a lot of corners. And it's because he's he's a little tight in the hips on. I'm saying that with distinction the first post over bleeding nation was. After he was drafted right said, yes does a little bit tight in the hips. But also, he's got a huge stride. He's super high waisted, right? Like, he's six two. But a lot of it comes from his legs. And so it just gonna take him longer to transition in general because he's got more distanced a pole with his hips to pull those legs and move. Right. She's like a bigger circle. He's gotta draw. So you could solve a lot of that issue. You could tamper it down. If you let them play closer to line of scrimmage hands on people. I'm just saying. But yeah, we're gonna talk about this because I definitely agree off coverage there he may have turned early. But I think he needed to when he was able to execute play. Anyway, a big note on the next play, and this may be a whole conversation. Ben they land up with five on the line in one linebacker with what's called the double eagle front. It's called that. Because it's a ridge Nater is Earl greasy Neale who coached the eagles from nineteen forty one to nineteen fifty quick history lesson fans so in that front and this. Has been. So you know, it's second ten fourteen one left in the third never also for those playing at home. So with double eagle, you get a three oh three with two wide so nose tackle in the middle of three tech to each side of him. And what this does is it just makes the middle of your offense like garbage and teams are doing a new form of this. In college called tight, t I t the reason being is that spread teams want to run through the be gap while three three plugs all of that up in the safeties come late to fill in spill, the C gap now with double eagle the eagles are using it here the way they use it. They don't use the safeties like that. Instead, they have to why'd nines so zero tech to three techs. And then you get the two nines. What they do is they they drop both nines. So Brad him and Bennett drop those three interior players the two three techs widen. And they bring Hicks in the middle that widening action gives Hicks a one on one with the running back to the ball hand side of Bortles again, you're. You're getting a theme here. Now, he actually gets blocked up by the running back, but Bortles sees this coming get spooked gets rid gets rid of it quick will pass in drop by keeling coal. Go figure. I thought it was a really creative design and not a blitz per se because there's only four coming, but man to disguise and deception that they use to get a linebacker one on one with a running back while only rushing four is excellent. With the angle of those dropping ends that you get to your taking away slant, you're taking away curls. You're taking crossers. Which is all the quick hitting stuff that the Jaguars wanted to hit and one last play just finish that drive out. Ben next play on third and ten they bring five with Hicks sugaring, the b-. He drops random comes delayed on the other side one on one with the running back. Again. It's panic city Bennett starts to drag them down. Jenkins tips at Hicks nearly picks it off they were getting after it. And I thought that shorts was really creative with his blitz packages. And we're they got beat was the blitz with the classic covers. Zero Maddux comes off the edge. Brandon comes up the same a gap on the same site. So they're over loading the ball hand side of Bortles again with four the jazz leave in tight end in a running back. So the block was seven boroughs gets a clean pocket through eleven yard touchdown de Westbrook on Jenkins, which of course, was a double move. And you understand why Jenkins wants to jump that? Because they're bringing big time. He and then it just keeps happening. Like these double moves. They just keep happening the situations. And I don't know how you fix it. And I didn't think the Jenkins had to jump in. And here's why did he gives an inside nod? Well, the tight end is staying into block on the other side. You got your quarterback to the nub side, which is the close side. So there's no wide receiver outside of the tight end there. He's running an inside route. You've got that corner that can close on too. But Jenkins is playing the sticks with the blitz in mind, and he gets beat still overall what you saw after that was they were starting to give give some of those more classic covers your looks than they were. They were dropping. Is all over the place, and it was really confusing for Borrell's. I thought this was a very very good game plan by Jim Swartz. I'm very happy. You brought up this sequence mbappe Uber. The D for touchdown. So and yeah, they came out with that fantastic. I wanna go to the second sequence in the third quarter, Mike so the very next drive for the Jacksonville Jaguars what you'll notice on that play that you talked with me about is that because Philadelphia's kinda got that veil. Look with those ends ride. The you show me on that second in ten it allows Dextra McDougal the slot corner to kind of act like he's trapping there on the outside. So he moves into the flat. And then once he recognizes that boys is going to that quick little curl route he closes right back inside right on that on the next drive its second to it's the play right before restore Douglas is gonna get smoked by David Greenwich right into the twenty four yards on a little tight end wheel route Philadelphia's in a similar look where they've got a bunch of people this time it stand up linebackers in between those big apps like. Four guys were threatening between tackle tackle this time. They bail everybody in the middle. Fletcher, Cox is dropping into copyright, and they said, they send a nine tech, and they sent Dexter McDougal the slot corner on a blitz and you watch Douglas received Douglas gives up his responsibility, right? His outside receiver who is responsible for he releases free because he comes up to trap that quick little curl route. That's of in the same way Dextra McDougal that earlier the ball is inaccurate. If that ball was complete his right there to level of big hit potentially drug that ball loose right on the very next play. That's the third in to receive Douglas again plays tight as if wrapping against that little crow route little set route and he lets the wheel route get way behind him. Right. This was something that Philadelphia was doing we're because they knew Bortles needed to get the ball out quickly on mesh and curl routes because that's what Bortles need. They did two things game. They they let those outside corners track inside come inside on crow routes that they could see in their vision, which is. Daring Bortles to throw the ball down the sideline which doesn't like to do. And the second thing is they aligned Malcolm Jenkins. I don't even know what you call them linebacker or safety. Just like, you know, like like, he look straight at the center, right? He was on the same line as the center unless your back. Yeah. I mean, so he's he's like he's just sitting there like almost like you would play a triple option team like a to middle linebackers one behind the other. He's just like that back middle linebacker. You know what I mean? So he was sitting back there. They're trying to take away all those shore areas in between the numbers a lot of what it was. And it was a great play. Call in that situation third and to to hit David Greenwich to get the ball into the red zone. And then you get to the touchdown. I hear you. And I know you don't like the covers Eero blitzes, and I think that the red zone is a great opportunity to have those droplets you drop random guys into coverage of. But when it's third and seven, you know, you imagine they're going touchdown or nothing right at the eleven you imagine they're going to least pretty deep, and so you don't know how valuable those underneath droppers would be on first and ten. Of that red zone. So third and seven on the first and ten for that series. Malcolm Jenkins and Jordan Hicks have words because there was a little cross or going from the field side to the boundary side. And Jenkins released him gritted ends up opening up could have been hit boroughs misses a throw. And then join Hex to them and says like yo you gotta follow that guy when he comes across that. It's third and seven Dede Westbrook gives inside move. Jank is eaten alive. Probably because he's worried about it, which you know, he he he gave up across her first in ten and Westbrook heads off the back. So there was a lot of gains ships in back and forth. Little chess moves if you do this I do that. I think Douglas generally played as I would've expected him to play especially in relief, which was not great but still impactful like Douglas had the pass break up on the attempted to point conversion great use of length. Good job keying on a quick little set route from Dede Westbrook and close right down. Get your hand in there. The two points ends up mattering a lot when you're late game scenarios in teammates ring within a field goal score. Yeah. Douglas for me headed up and down game. He did have some nice plays player. I yeah. That's true. And I did attribute that that third that third into that you mentioned I didn't like the fact heating, I don't feel like he needed to trap there. Because unlike the other play he had McDougal on the inside for that. And he needs to get the debt because you can see door be on the other side. He gets to fifteen yards into the sideline with his cover touts on. That's where you can get. He went hundred percent got suckered in it. Absolutely. Did I don't mean to disable? It was a fine play by Douglas previously. Because Douglas have been allowed to play aggressively into that look previously. He wasn't playing with the right was the discipline. And that's why there's a conversation kind of going on right now on on Twitter. She'll capacity of the posted a clip of a late fourth down where anonymous was it. Was it a fourth our third down. It was a fourth down in one with four twenty six left in the fourth quarter, their standard covered three boroughs ends up. Scrambling for for yardage on ping, the fourth doubt that being said, you know, the kind of argument is if he had seen this route that you know, he would have hit it yet Sewell cover cover three responsibilities and the outside receiver to his are me the slot receiver to his side takes this little curl route in front of him and restore Douglas starts driving on avant. Matic's the free safety. Also, drives on it. Which leaves the outside receivers running the boundary pretty wide open. And then it's unclear Douglas kind of goes back to go handle it, and then Maddox goes back to go hand leads. There was a miscommunication between the two miscommunication. I've done. Thinking that I think that's Douglas going old crap and the same thing for Maddix. Yeah. Once once once Douglas releases that route they don't know who Doug was goes to pick it up and the magic picking up. My my point here is that there's a conversation about you know, is Douglas just not like mentally super. I think that was a super aggressive. I think Douglas wants to close on everything that's in front of him kinda why people want to move them to safety, right, which Lieven press. Pure man coverage is to worry about that. Just follow a guy when you're running him in zone. He eats up. I can be a lot. I will say this. When Bortles turns on skates, the scramble. He's at a twenty five yard line. His receivers with momentum heading down the field at the thirty at the forty five into the forty. This is not a throw. We anticipate a lot of NFL quarterbacks making like Bortles is a bad NFL quarterback. But I would not expect any quarterback currently starting in the NFC east to make this throw. I would not expect any dull intimate this throw and not expect. You'll flacco to make the surround not expect like any of the rookies to make this right? This is a. Bananas throat. It's a it's a Patrick Mahomes. Carson Wentz throw. I mean, it's thirty five yearning to your left as a right handed quarterback. And put a ball. We'll we'll have to end up being over fifty yards down the field. But you know, he can stop. He has room to stop. Okay, he'll up. It's also fourth in one. And he has very clear space to go pick it up. Right. I mean as clear that he didn't see it. And what his what his thought process is just watching his headgear throughout this play. As soon as he breaks the pocket. I'm looking at the end zone angle here. What does he look at? He looks as he looks at yielded. And he looks at the defender, right? And then he looks at the sticks. And he goes, okay. I got this. And that entire rollout is spent worrying about okay, I can take this to the sticks. Look at him real quick. And then boom, okay. I'm at the sticks. He does not once look downfield if he does and he's able to stop his feet. That's touchdown. Here's what I have no clue as to what Douglas's doing what do you know the distance between the hash. And I'm honestly asking the hash and the numbers. What is it like ten yards? I would guess little bit less. So maybe like eight yards third. What is Douglas doing? When he's got an outside guy. That's in line with him vertically right on the numbers. And he sees a cruel route go directly behind a hook zone, and he's chasing something eight to nine yards inside that's running away from him. What do you? What's the decision there? How is that? Being. You're not making play on that ball. You're covering grass. You're not doing anything in that situation. You got a guy right in front of you. That's getting vertical. Just because you have an underneath guy under you think that's McDougal on that mistaken. Does not mean get out of your deep zone in go to the middle of the field. Like were you chasing this guy? I have no idea at all no answer feel again like to me. All right. My only only thought is that the instruction was play aggressive into stuff that you see in front of you. Because we don't think boys gonna go down field and be it's fourth in one. Like, you know, the if you look at all the eagles underneath defenders. They all close super heavy and everything that's in front of them. Which leaves the intermediate crosser behind them that Douglas is attracted to like open like very clearly open. But look a look if okay so gullible further when when when you scrambles in at the twenty five in the scramble drill drill is on the linebacker start. To react words, Malcolm Jenkins is in the middle of the field. If Bortles has the stock price a threat is that across his body. He makes them play on that ball very easily probably. But this this goes back to the salient point of the eagles defense of Jim Schwartz is a coordinator, which is Brandon Graham collapse the pocket up against the left tackle Seventy-three, whoever's, Josh or whatever awful, and we we should talk about Brennan brand Graham, I think Brennan, grandma's Lawson, juice, man. But anyway, yeah. Graham has collapsed the pocket. The Jim Schwartz defense is predicated on if I got pressure with four and I just felt the quarterback then I can give up stuff on my second. It'll be fine because they won't get their. You know what I mean? Like, if is a clean pocket for Bortles the navy. He sits in there, and he he he reads Maddox closed down 'cause Maddox initial actions to close down the crosser. And so he listed at deep ball sees that the guys toasted Douglas and Anson, but he the pockets not safe he had gave the bucket, and that disruption is what takes away quarterbacks ability to make those plays within structure. So like this play is a is a great example of you could go to the eagles Super Bowl win against the patriots. You go to their win against the Vikings game. I promise you can find plays like this where somebody was clearly open. But because pressure disrupted the pocket the ball was able to get there. Right. So this is this is how Jim force defense works. You know what I mean? Look, I don't know how. I mean how much are we burying Jim Schwartz. Bortles finds that sets his feet hits it for six Schwartz killing. We're killing Douglas as a fan base. Do think that's worse is getting off the hook for that happening on his watch with this fan base. I'm not saying me new menu. We tend to sit back watch and process things before we start yelling fire Schwartz. I'm saying as a fan base. We are murdering Jim Schwartz. If he finds that that would put it at twenty likely put it at twenty five to twenty four with four minutes left with Jaguars lead. It changes the entire landscape of the game. And fits the narrative that Jim Schwartz can't close games anymore. Thanks to remain bug Lous. I think as we've been saying at like I against the titans. I had a lot of complaints about Jim Schwartz in the way he put his players out of the field. But I think since we've been saying we said after the Panthers game. And I think now we've said it here a lot of this more has to do with execution than it has to do with anything else on this has to do his job. His job is that don't stop trying to do somebody else's job. Also fits the narrative that the players are are pressing trying to do too. Are you ready for the sentence out loud? Am I ever Munna eagle eagles fans? Just like Batten down the hatches and keep your britches on Jalen mills. Probably doesn't give up the third into cash today would grant is sold. Douglas. Does he probably is in coverage on that? And it's fourth too and Jaguars kicking a field goal. There's no way they're going for it. They haven't gone for it all game kicking field goals forth into from the forty for like the entire year because it's Doug Marrone. The enemy all Jim mills makes a play mean. Probably because that's play. That's more about remaining in your deep third and understanding route concepts and mills always been nice understanding how route concepts overlap that's always something. He's good at news. Good. The titans game. He was good. At that time game was the main game. He was criticized and he was doing a great job over lapping a lot of it was Darby's fault. So, you know ball Jalen mills, obviously, it's very easy to say that 'cause bills wasn't in there. You can't be wrong. But. It's the thing. It goes back to when when people were calling for mills to be benched for Douglas like we said does probably makes more impact plays for you Douglas as a better playmaker on the football. But Donna says a very high variance player. He's gonna give up stuff if Jila mills just giving up stuff every week that mental, but that was still gonna give up stuff, but he's gonna at least make some place for you. There you go mills had not been giving up a terrible amount of stuff. Really like, we've we just call it as we see they're absolutely execution problems. But you know, you're probably at a point where with what we've seen from Douglas thus far. He was put into starting situation. You didn't know he was gonna be in. You know, I it was he really it's really gonna be a high impact player a hiring by player than bills. I don't know yet. You know, it's tough to say I'd love to see us play a full game where he knew he was gonna start insurance knew how he was gonna run coverage before I make the claim there. That's I mean, we wanna we want to transition the conversation here a little bit trade deadline has now passed so we can officially say this is the roster. Was was bigger weakness right after Philadelphia. The current healthy Cornerbacks the current healthy offensive tackles. Excuse me. Dude. I've message makes you feel a little bad desert. I message do and I said dude look at C Amalia tackle on this play LOL. He's so this to you. And I'm wondering if you can confirm this better with bio mechanics and all that stuff than I am. But he looked so uncomfortable and his in his kick in with everything moving backwards as a tackle in space. Just to me looks like a mess. I would so much prefer him at guard. I feel he's he's so a better utilized in that position that fits his strengths. Even though he's not that strong of a player. But you know, but you know, what? I mean, if we got to it, dude if we continue on in God vibes bad by tight was bad. Dude. He can't sustain a block from more than second foul. Ince's awful. It's all terrible. He's so back. He had supporters. He had supporters Tova. He was good. Where are you? Now. Sorry. You know, I had. It's so here's what's so frustrating. Corson does some soup. Good stuff that I can't abide by he did. I can't stand that the title dirty secret that third fourteen voted during a Matthews. I'm not one hundred percent positive. He was throwing it to a Matthews. I told you that when I told the Bill de that in the in the tell me that. No. Yeah. I I told you that unlike I wasn't one hundred percent sure that he was throwing it for Matthews. I do believe seeing it again that I'm pretty confident that he was. But it's a question. I'll put it to you this way when he starts climbing the pocket, it's so Sean Jeffrey, and then he looks back to Matthews, and in my opinion, he gets his head back to Jeffrey. And then starts to throw it. Yeah. That's. I'm not one hundred percent. There's a decent chance. I'm saying I'll put it at like fifteen right? He was throwing it to alshon hedge. Anyway, he end it's very funny because he makes that play and people go bananas. And then he with his backup against the goal line makes an incredible allusive move in the pocket gets outside puts a relatively good ball. Jordan Mathews with Quinn Meeks. Coverage Quin Meeks who played on mazing. He was awesome. Nobody nobody nobody involved Lee has matched up Zac earth's this year. The on drafted corner out of Stanford did Meeks had the best game against I have seen all season. I had I headed we've got to go draft on draft here. Yeah. I had a day to grade on Meeks day to I'm pretty confident. He may have been right around my top fifty. I have I don't know a lot of people on the big board. Why he wasn't drafted? Let's see here. Mid forty fifth overall. Really? Wow. Oh, yeah. I had him. And is as Oliver Renick's each other give me smart corners. Oh, do he's super smart. Like he popped for me. When I when we were watching them just in just in read, the safety is fun because it was the opposite from AL's watching me sounds like who's this number eight thinking, but anyway, I'll finish my point. I'll finish my point than you can time aid Quinn makes. Okay. So that Florida Zach ertz nearly pay or that sorta Jordan Mathews Quin Mason coverage nearly PECS backed up in the even territory course, got flame. They Carson can't he's pressing wising making these decisions, you know, he's trying too hard. That was a much better decision and higher percentage. Throw then third and fourteen but it works and everybody's fine. If it is we haven't been very like both of those are in our very aggressive one of them. You're being tackled is a bit more risky than the other one where you're just got a guy in front of you. And he's coming to hit you. But at least you're you know, you're not currently. In the grasp throwing the football. So Carson does some things that I can't buy t he definitely is too risky in the fact that he doesn't have more interceptions. Literally shocking. He is he's either due for aggression, or he will forever. His greatest strength ever for will forever. Be being a nutcase with the football. Just not turning over center to luck. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting, by the way, what we're British have makes again forty five mid second. All her forty seventh. Get add this how how are we both? So high on Meeks in the NFL is like, and then he comes out in any covering Zakar. It's like that one of the best route rang titans in the league anyways. Greg game Greg courses playing so well, but you can see and it was it was like a late drive with eagles ended up kicking a field goal. They deep into Jacksonville territory. He is so frustrated with the amount of pressure. Yeah. He gets immediately. He is even just tell a he like Carson is a Carson was brought up in John D Filipo school D flip ahead. Would they call it a body language penalty? Mike where view showed bad body language after a play in training camp? You got like penalized. You had to delight pushups you pay a fine or something right D, flip of I was very important for the quarterback to always have positive by language to communicate his team that they were still alive and everything was going to be cave against the next play in. And you can see Carson get so pissed he so down with the amount of pressure. He's getting and it's so frustrating because Matt Pryor's not active and was in his kind of guard tackle hybrid because the idea was that sale Malo could kick out the tackle. If we needed into right? And he can't he didn't play tackle Mike can't like maybe he can't if he knows he's going to and they'll spend a week on his past sets. He'll be better prepare for it. But when he went from guard, a tackle he could not gain depth in his bath, set big gains FM's pass Zet, but still can't deal with speed on the outside because he lunges. So Carson I was calling for more rollouts with Carson because Carson can't stay deep in the pocket. Immediately asked to climb up when he's got vital oncein Sam on the other. You've gotta get him outside of the pocket. And the only way you can let him have depth in his past sets need be able to see what he's looking. He's not right up against his center in his guards. And the other reason it's frustrating 'cause they should have drafted attack earlier than the fifth round with Matt prior which I just we said for. The entire drafts have been saying for the last two years, actually, a Ben I I know there was a play that you looked at that a lot of people were criticizing winds for. But you went in looked at the thought process that went had gone through that led him to that interception in the red zone. That was picked off by Jalen Ramsey people. Saw that window Smallwood was uncovering on the wheel there and was fairly open. And he could have made that throw do wanna dig into. Why that play happened the way it did in the process behind double post wheel, Mike double post wheel? Let me why. Right. Double post is awesome in the red zone. You throw wheel in. I'm in. Right. So like post real is awesome. The red zone. Double post awesome in the red zone. Technically, not Philadelphia Oakland in two thousand sixteen. Bill must brave was like, yo what if we did both at the same time, you can find this time line. And I didn't get to talk about how excited I was about. Double post wheels have fit into minutes. Twenty seconds took. Six tries kept on talking too much in the beginning. So you're taking a deep half of the field, and you're putting three deep routes. They're right. And and in the red zone, obviously, the deep area of fueled is limited the N line is there, and it's gonna stop it. But when your quarterback can read a half field one two three and he can read that space rows of the quickly. He can be in line to make the throw at anytime because his body's already played in that direction. He's got throwing hallway set up against cover to you're going to have the interior route and against cover three. You're gonna have the outside post. You're gonna have the wheel dependent with the cover three corner. Does so really cool. Philadelphia runs a real out. We'll route with Wendell small at the backfield. And they've got Josh Perkins. Running the inside post and Nelson Agla running the outside post at the snap. It's looking like a to deep safety cover to Sivalingam for the inside post. But Philadelphia's got jet motion come across the formation to the place side. So as that do it takes that deep safety in polls him up writes a jet motion coming from Carson his white. Carson Wentz his right to his left, which means the safety to his left has to get dragged down into the box in cases jet sweep sort of a look. So now Carson gives the little play action fake the jet sweep the jet motion. And now he's looking at the four CS coming into the middle of the field and the corner the cover three corner is staying where he is because of the threat to Nelson aga- Mawr everything up until this point went exactly as it was supposed to on the truck board. Josh Perkins is going to have a mile and a half worth of space to throw this ball. Jalen Ramsey is the deep corn on the other side. The really what you had was a cover four quarters situation from the the defense for the Jaguars. Jim Ramsey's all the other side of the field. You're not even really worried about him. The offense played is either mentions him like when they're going through the end of the planet. Like, we have to make sure that this corner doesn't come overlap, but really we should be fine. That should rarely does will be late. You'll see it a throwaway mentioning doesn't have Jalen Ramsey member. People want him to be a safety out of college. Wjr athletic instinctive, rangy ball, hawking player serandon already starting to sneak. But they're still tons of room. Of course to get this ball. Josh Perkins is exam Milo playing left guard surrenders quick pressure to class Campbell goes back to the point pressure disrupts the pocket solar secondary. I think it was at me. Jackson Jackson Carson's forces step up and reset is throwing hallway 'cause he got like affected. His body got Chuck a little bit. So he goes, and he knows he's getting late. He's late to this throw. He knows he should have already releasing those already wanted to. So he tries to put this thing with all armed like thirty yards down the field. Right. His mural of his feet. His when the bulk of his hand, he's like office feet. His hips. Like, you want your hips to be in a line? Effacing your target. Rightly back hip in by your front hip to the target. Carson Wentz hips are really facing the target. He's a ninety degrees. We should be like there's just no power gonna come from the rotation of his hips at all and he's like half jumping. And so he tries to all on this thing and it sales on him and it flutters a little bit late by the time. The ball is released you'd like for the ball to be pretty much already this balls out late, of course, could have and a more risk averse quarterback. Probably would have said I'm late to this. Let me go to my second read, which is the the outside post or or my third which. Smallwood which did open up and was like waving his arms guy. I'm open. He had already made the decision to throw that ball to Perkins before small Woodhead opened up right, right, which small what is the third 'cause it takes longer for the wheel to open up because small gotta get out of the backfield all the way to the boundary and then come up field. So he's designed to be the later read. That's very important. It's not like Carson had a choice to either one. If Perkins opened the bulge come to Perkins. Now, like I said once Carson realizes that he's late to that bowl because of the pressure on more risk averse and probably more veteran quarterback would have reset and looked for smaller. Carson did not Carson tried to force the ball in their still honestly had a window. Budgie ramseys. Also making a fantastic play overlapping coverage is starting you know, all the way to the right and basically playing middle of field safety just a stellar play. This put of even been completed against the worse corner on the other side. But Ramsey's just ridic a corner. So we've had two situations. Our course hasn't hit window Smallwood in the red zone. And he's. Forced middle of the field. Throw. The could have been picked this is your quarterback like like like Carson's like people's own Carson's regressing. He's not always done this because he's bananas in he's he's super aggressive. It hasn't gone. Well for him there. Another time he'll feed this ball in there. And it's an incredible catch by Zacher. It's up above the rim. Double toe tapping on the end zone. We'll think ours is amazing. So just be careful of your of your results based analysis. It's important understand. Why cars went to that ball second-half? I thought he played great. I thought he had 'em. So the mental and competitive toughness, the comeback have a great second half. Because he was definitely struggled in that first half. The final point is this Carson Wentz at a great relationship with develop Bo the Filipa likely would have tried to temper down some of this aggressiveness. We have the press Taylor's able to do it. We have to see how Carson calibrates his game. Now that he's had the same estate a couple of times. And what the new coaching staff will be able to offer him in that regard. I have a to make with you. Let's make a bet double post wheel. Right. They missed it for a touchdown. In what we do. They hit double post Wilford touchdown in. What week? Do they hit double post wheel for touchdown to Smallwood will will make it to parts O two small it? Okay. Why don't think? How about this list? Put the over under it at eight games left with over under at four and a half. Do they throw a touchdown two that double post wheel under Ford half games or over four and a half games from now? I'm gonna give you the exact we've thought. Yeah. That's what I'm looking for give it to me. Now. I'm not gonna go rounder. Okay. I like it like it. They're gonna I don't know what week this is. But they're gonna throw against the saints. I just wanted to pop up. Okay. Saints have a very instinct of safety, Marcus Williams, playing the deep third and the saints have been gashed by deep plays all year long because their secondary flies around the crazy. Also, Marcus Davin bore is going to be out of the toe injury likely offer that game Denver it's likely silent for about a month. Which means I'm not gonna that much pressure with these cars is gonna have time to get to small. What if he wants it? Double post Bill against the saints calling it the Washington Redskins have had communication issues on their back end, especially passing off routes and. Getting a line of does for them. Yeah. I think I think the perception around haha is different nationally than it is than it was in Green Bay who was who has said that yesterday that was Ben fennel, and I one thousand percent with him. I like I mean, pretty super consistent. Right. So that was my thing is I was like, oh Green Bay media must think ha-has good. And I realized that the the the disparity was a lot like national NFL network. Guys thing has good, and I don't I just see how missed like three tackles a game. All right. Get him out of there. I mean that's been the story for him since he was a rookie, and you see the three intercepts into go. Ooh sexy. You're gonna playmaker. Well, you know, you gotta look at the other side of that coin too. So I'm gonna go with the Washington Redskins. They've had issues passing off rows communication issues. Prese nephew thrown. That's so skunks eagles the Redskins twice heels. Only play the saints wants oh known all a specific. We got this December third base. Still do the other week. You're gonna be like look would is said Redskins. I called. You're one hundred percent hedging. I have I have good reasoning behind it. And therefore, I can hedge Ben obviously, we wanted to talk about more. But we ended up yelling at each other about Nelson galore for about fifteen minutes on the front of the show and had some pretty in dumb more. We wanna talk about this was everything man. We went crazy. I wanted to talk about Josh Josh Adams, you know, making some nice cuts and overperforming what I think he is as a running back in thought they should've stuck with him a little bit more as the hot hand as in any running back rotation doesn't make him a starter a permanent starter. But I do believe that you know, you get a hot hand and you stick with thought he made some nice place, but he does have his limitations especially in the past game. And he's run key. And all that stuff. That's one of the things I wanted to touch on. Obviously, we talked to we touched on the tackle depth as well. That's going to be an issue moving forward, depending on how much lane Johnson or how long lane Johnson is out. But yeah, no, I think we I think we covered it Ben let the gentle listeners know where we have on tap for the rest of. The week. Screw you. Thanks bye week. There's literally no possible way. I could know what's going to happen. 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Lions HC Matt Patricia, Ghost Hunting In Milwaukee, Hard Knocks & Mt Rushmore Of Cheese

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Lions HC Matt Patricia, Ghost Hunting In Milwaukee, Hard Knocks & Mt Rushmore Of Cheese

"On today's part of my take we have a lions coach matt patricia. We are live in milwaukee the pfister hotel we have ghost host hunters they the i mean that was gold. I don't know if i'm going to be able to recreate start start again. Wait till we get into the show. What just run all this is a great cold open yeah you heard p._f. Tease real joke. There nailed l. did oh you didn't know you probably heard over my mic. Though you said wait wait. We'll do to run back okay but if i heard it then scouts pretend like it's the first time all right the cash app. Pardon my takes brought to you by the cash out the number and finance app in the app store. Cash app is most powerful way to send spend and save. It's connected to the free cash card the only debit card with boosts. Just select a boost in your cash app than instantly save at some of your favorite places like ten percentage percentage polls or one dollar off all coffee shops. They're always adding new boosts so check yours. 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They welcomed part of my take presented by the cash app. Go download loaded right now putting code barstool you get five dollars for free five dollars a._s._p._c._a. Today is wednesday august seventh and we are live on on the road from the pfister hotel. That's right fister. I barely even know her nailed it. Were about to go hunt. We're going to do that. We're gonna get the were introduced. The ghost hunters at hot see cool thrown now to just back up for a second because the pfister hotel that is widely known as very haunted hotel here milwaukee. Yes there are a lot of major league baseball players that are afraid to stay here because the ghosts so we brought into ghost hunters to see if there when he goes and hangs room will get to them later coming up boiler alert. The hank is going to have a very interesting night sleeping key okay so before we do that we also have mount rushmore cheeses and matt patricia tricia packed show for you but before we do all of that hard knocks yes hard knox's back. Derek carr is awkward as he's our my big takeaway. He seemed like he was reading off a script or i'll take that back. He wasn't reading off a script. He just knew the cameras were on the whole time so he was like trying his best. He was like a robot trying to impersonate a quarterback he was. It's very clear that the message the raiders are trying to send his derek carr quarterback and we're going to give him a lot of airtime and we're going to show oh how tuffy is including bullying his two young kids to to fight in the living room other playing basketball that felt script. If you're a car you have to be like don't fight against each other because if you cried your mask is gonna run tests right so so that it started with that it also started with antonio brown in miami and his feet is big feet having a big problem so those were the two like <hes> you know like derek cars. It's gonna be derek. Carr is hard knocks. He's the quarterback he's tough. Antonio brown's feet we you don't know and i forgot to mention great opening. Do you think gruden wrote that like beforehand. I don't wanna dreams men and one nightmare where he said. I'm not in the dream business. I want i wanna make i want you guys to to make someone else's life a nightmare crush their dreams and then he was like we're not playing for the gator bowl the peach bowl the tax layer will play for the super bowl guys. I liked it and it was very misleading. How intense that absorb started compared to what happened during the episode yes. It's very obvious that jon gruden was not gonna let them show anything. That's like remotely interesting. Well we just have to hope for next week which sean mcveigh trying to out gruden jon gruden. It's just like saying the exact same lines. They're going to get into a music volume off. You just keep raising the volume on their music until all their eardrums explode. The one you think gruden does that has always fascinating 'cause gruden. You're right. He's never he's not gonna show anything really for the camera other than you know the the big barbecue at the end where he's like family i i you know i'm a coach and i love your family gruden though the cameras just catching his face in a permit squint i could watch that all day but he just standing there relaxed but looking so angry. It's his resting heartbeat. Any wants to kill someone. I can't figure out what jon gruden because he always has one is hey. That's like kind of cocked can't determine if it's the same i each time or if he switches it up from time to time that was one thing the other thing i noticed about him. Never weren't sunblock and his life life. No he is anti he thinks he's tough in the sun the fucking sun and i believe that he is he's got an he. He wears so little sunblock that he has an ear tan so behind signed. His ear is like super white because he always stands directly facing into the sunset. He's tougher. Oh by the way speaking of the sun derek carr. You did oil up you old up your arms. You pretend that it was sunscreen lotion youth. Drop the dad line which i think when your kids is like six so you can't be like i'm a dad now. You've been a dad for a while when you get to stop abusing. I'm a dad. I don't still goes. I'm a dad now. I can't use after your kids like one okay. I'll make a note of that. We're gonna guys they're standing marked. Dad now is different than i'm a dad by the way how pissed off do you think lebron is that he can't have training camp in napa valley she she's got to a. b. Also mayock made a brief appearance. I i need a little bit more. Make you gotta have me like taste. Some of these stars a little bit because 'cause you're right. The only real glimpse grew it was at the beginning and then when he had the barbecue which him in mark davis probably to like fight tooth and nail to figure out if guy fair who's who's gonna cook the p._f. Changs menu hooters menu. Mike mark davis being a white sunglass guy is something. I don't think i knew but i knew when and you knew you felt it you. I don't think i've ever seen a picture with him with his white sunglasses but you felt it in your bones. He's a white sunglasses oakley's. Maybe the pair that you buy for fifteen bucks at a gas station and he's like sweet sunglasses. I got yeah pretty awesome. His entire paycheck goes directly to pacific. It's a he he is. He's just a beautiful specimen of a man <hes> other notes i wrote down your guy was his name ronald ali. Ali ronald ali big time like they tried. Would who's beeping. I think that's bubba. Oh okay. I think it's you you you try to just wow that was also hello quick blame. It's something that was one hundred percent you i was. I was hoping that everybody would want everybody would look at bubba while i know only switched my phone off <hes> so ronald ali holly. Who 'cause you know how knowing that it like. Someone's sitting at work being like wheaton founder's go off. No sirens colored up. Everybody volley. Really that was the quickest like we're going to try to get you to feel bad for this guy even though he got cut i think the fastest cut in hard knocks history. He was cut twenty five minutes in he also had an unbelievable line when he said talking about last chance you saying you need to experience it to experience it. It's a fact it's can't experienced out experience thing with him to is like that was what he was like. In the beginning of last chance to accept then he like got it figured out and turned around so it was like this is like the real life version also jonathan jonathan abrahams. They kind of brought him out a little bit going. Here's the thing i don't know how annoying he's going to be. I liked him when he was interacting with. Jon gruden a little bit at the beginning when gruden gruden was like don't hit i i like to swag but then when you sit him across from somebody like derek carr that doesn't know how to handle them derek cards shorts. I think he's a robot. Actually i think derek carr is a robot and he doesn't know how to do with personality. It's that is true but the gruden jonathan abrams situation that told everything i know about jonathan abrams gruden was being serious and jonathan abram kept on doing that thing like we're joking joking. He doesn't know how to read a room. He's the he is a quintessential guy who like not a bad guy seems like he's going to be a hell. Football player wants to just tackle tackle tackle but he does not know how to read a room. He he's the guy who he he will keep making jokes until john gruden's like dude. I'm not joking. Stop blowing people up in paddling practice right right. You just couldn't figure it out. He he blew up the lead blocker and then went after lou. Wilson are ya getting another chance. He had a nice line though he was like wait till we put the pads on dude. Come at you so shout out. Luke way to go didn't know you're on the team. I he popped up in all three of us by the way we watch it in house so thank you a to allie allie friend and her boyfriend and her dog and her cat so it was an awesome setup but we i think all three of us are like luke. There is going to double check because i think it might be kelly. Okay so what else did did you have from <hes> need more john madden yeah john madden was the highlight when he was like this is what football is football guys coming out here hitting the seven football guy blocking flood yeah who needs a sled in their backyard. Every former football player needs to have needs to have a blocking sled in their backyard when they retired. Yes yes <hes> oh the other two notes. I took down guy fieri electric as always of course i his son's name writer. You know that i think i knew that but i forgot it which wish that i looked it up and his other sons name is hunter. It's like dude you just you couldn't be more guy fear surprise you to know that guy fair. Your son plays the drums. No no the other ones skateboards. I think both the cool ass kids <hes> and then speaking of kids antonio brown. I forgot about this part. Starting the entire hard knox episode basically trying to erase the fact that he went crazy for three months and every teammate of his in pittsburgh hated him by showing longest. How cute is kids are. They are very what worked it absolutely. We're ready to go to napa and the kid was like yeah. Okay the rothlisberger line like your way to go. Oh that is i tip my cap to you tony brown. Everyone's like damn. He's got cute kids and they think that derek names derrick carter which i might start on him to call her back. Yes a super way way derek number one nathan peterman number two derek carr number three also shutout. Mike glennon long neck made a quick appearance you he i don't i think we saw mike lennon's face. We just saw the back of his neck. You-know-what neck that is when you see yup also ventas perfect yes that was that was pretty cool to see. He's going to him and richie. Incognito are not going to like each other a lot of personality so overall. What would you say grade for the first episode how migrating this honestly five on five five balls yet boss to bowls yeah. I'd give it like two and a half balls because i thought it was good but the expectations have like i'm expecting five balls all around worse and it just didn't have the pop. I needed a fight. I needed maybe a little less jonathan abram and a little less awkward awkward derek carr bubbly okay. What do you give on the balls to balls loss good. Well can score so honestly this is. This is where it's like. We've always been differentiated. This where i'm like. I'm just kind of always been like a patriots fan and cared less about the outside world of football. Hard knocks is never really done it for me but that's yeah i like. The first season i watched was the bucks was bad bad. The browns one was good awesome but not like you know like i excited about because you guys get excited about it and then i watched her mike from a position of privilege right and it's also hard knocks is as we did the whole thing on thursday which we probably we admitted like when they do the hall of fame game. We get excited and then two minutes. This sucks hard. Knocks feels like the official. We'll start football season because i'm thinking and it always fox my brain up because they're taping it but it's also happening right now. No that's what i'm saying. So you see something happened to the raiders. You always think to yourself. I can't wait to see this hard right right. In the rams and raiders are probably practicing probably practiced today that's weird and we saw aw just blew my vein gruden and it's like what how does this work also. Mcveigh's beard looks lot better. Did you notice that he's he's obviously been nagged enough by us. He's a growing boy. It's going to be great watching the two of them just talk in the same exact language back and forth exactly it's. It's like a dog staring in the mirror barking at itself. Uh all right other news before we get osce cool thrown hank. You showed us this. The ultimate stay woke. They're trying to keep rich paul down. Is that yeah pretty much it so the n._c._a._a. Has created a new rule. This is my stable by the way no. It's lebron stay woke. They created a new rule that any agent that wants to talk to a player before they declare for the draft. I think <hes> has to have a bachelor's degree. Rich paul does not rich. Paul is disrupting the business. He's basically lee making everyone nervous. As much as it pains me to say is i love it because i love people who make like the establishment super nervous the n._c. Double a. has been just is milking. Everyone forever having a disruptor in there when i say disruptor obviously mean d. s. r. p. t. r. novell vowels is great great for everyone because n._c._n._b. Will have to change if rich paul keeps disrupting p- people are also saying it's the n._b._a.'s involved because they hate how rich paul and lebron taking someone like how last year they like controlled. Anthony davis controlled his own destiny the how the trade deadline's and that stuff doesn't matter right so there's there's a chance that it's the n._b._a. And civil inco. I think you're probably right on that. Bronze think it's not a bad idea overall to have your agent and your right hand man have like the education for your education. I think that's probably an advisable thing in most circumstances but i don't think they needed to go. Ahead didn't make a rule out of it like it's very clear that i think they're going after lebron as bronson. I'm very glad that i have you guys on my team now supporting well. No we're on teamers paul. I i think the n._b._a. Should suspend lebron clutch naral were on team rich paul knock clutch just written no per clutch with no with no you team team anti-establishment yeah right rich paul. He's an agent of out there fighting the power right. We are a bad ass podcast. Yeah we are bad fox podcasting our our it. How much of a power move must feel like you're rich. Paul and you go to sleep tonight and you're like they had to make a rule because i'm so fucking good at my job. Data has to feel awesome like as much as it sucks rich paul. I actually think it's like all at the end of the day. You're probably saying this is so sweet that i'm so damn good and i control and they're so scared me. They had to make a rule so that i have to go to university of phoenix next year like he's dragging cow coups but take a bunch of classes trump trump university. Yeah you can get a degree from wherever you want to wait. Does it say accredited university. We could just he he. He should make his own college. Honorary degrees count yeah because university of akron would definitely keep them one right. Absolutely i school ohio state would do it for him. I would would not be surprised if he made his own college. At this point great just gave himself a degree grabby awesome and also the name rich paul people forget. Just how cool that is your name the rich paul your fucking loaded man not richard rich yeah. Yes i mean that's a guy that trust my money. Yeah absolutely all right. Let's get to some hot. Let's see cool thrown before we do that. We need to mention <hes> two things. One pm t gold is coming out tomorrow so go to barstool goal dot com slash ashby g._m._t. Don brown and we answer all the gold members questions and the second thing we need to mention is that we are officially ghost hunting for the rest of this podcast hod cast so we have the guys and girls from supernatural investigation crew aron annely s._e._c. in the shadows. You can find him on twitter. Youtube facebook look everywhere they have come up from northern illinois and they are ghost hunting the pfister hotel with us. Can i just say that. I'm sure they're gonna find something could probably see it on the cameras right now like stuff that we're not able to perceive with our eyes. I walked in the sorts l. I got chills right on my she's hitting. You can't swear he's got it. We already got hits annely and leeann alien erin. They're getting hits right now in the other room i'm telling you i walked into the lobby. I got chills. I saw the big painting behind the front desk. I'm pretty sure that was my face painting an old version of me so i found out about the fisher otas stayed here a couple times before but a friend of mine who works with the cubs. <hes> told me that starling castro refused to stay here and then if there's been some articles written people i think milwaukee no the pfister hotel very well l. pretty popular in this area with with all the baseball players. They always stay here but i always report that. They don't want to stay here no more. They're like send us down the street. Okay else. That's that's errand by the way so. What have we gotten so far. We have a thing called an electric scope and khaleda measure static readings so let upright and green and it's kinda gas yes or no questions on it to an an lease in the other room and the bedroom marion. She's beginning science. She's been silent questions in spin leading up to her questions silent questions. Are we talking about hanley. You like we're asking. Why don't you save for the end. We'll save it for the but we just know that we are now podcasting with ghosts so yeah that's why this podcast and you can follow along and watch the ghosts impartial gold okay all right aaron. We're gonna talk to him at the end. We're going to do guys on ghouls. They're going to continue ghost hunting while we do this the rest of the show but we're going to get too hot sequels rhone hank hank. Why don't you start. My hotseat is kanye west. Oh there was a i'm sure you guys rented a top fifty rappers of all time lists that came out with drake on there it the neons who tweeted this someone tweeted it but it was joe biden from the job done podcast he just went into shout out shuttle now now our friend and we gotta do across across great great show joe biden podcast he just like he'd written to the whole thing on his on his podcast and then that that sparked a debate on twitter and the rest of the world which then basically caused every single like d._j. Notable d._j. That's like does a show in new york. Los angeles us. Everyone had to come out with their own lists to dante which parked out more more debate. I don't know if dante a good question. I would love to see dante point of order. Yeah what's the difference between a deejay emcee. I think mc is our midst. Yeah okay song the electric as their closer okay. I'm just making this up and i'm pretty sure m._c.'s live and d._j. Is like you hear them on the right so so connie wasn't on the list wasn't analyst molested random person who tweeted this which i love this is so peak you know nine thousand nine hundred complex or something you can just tweet a list and then have everyone get mad about it. It's it's just a random person. What about what about <hes> john cena he was not on the list who what about west smith will smith will smith number number one faulk and the rock number two. He is pretty good on that fuji song yes and then johnson. It'd be majority just professional wrestling. What about kobe bryant. Nope damn no lot of mrs. What about big cat yeah. It was an account and it was like oh no so this is what it was. It was an account with four hundred followers that joe bonus number three rapper. I love that so the people got mad we got to do that. We gotta we gotta have we got to create like a burner account and see see like just do list goes to make people mad it just constantly. Hey we made that forty under forty list which was essentially a re tweet lessees retweeting. Yes please do reach. We draw wasn't even yeah. I might i i might have my facts. I'm looking this up now. It wasn't joe biden that joe biden being three on the list that that caused it to go crazy. How the fuck is show three. It was then he talked about it. Thanks guys love that targeting one specific celebrity and getting going that way you know we should do we should do a ranking of the best female singers i mean is like the top mentioning here's eleven names before he ate the trash it come on scott. You're boy kim easiest way best female singers the last twenty years and just don't include beyond saying yeah and just make carly rae jepsen number number one immediately goes viral to this guy is like all these everyone was responding like everyone the trash oh my god i've seen every hudson all these people for eating the trash because then it's like all the all the all the other rappers that were like i wa came out. I'm on the list like how can i'm not going to be cocky but but i'm a top fifty rapper of all time mark mark the other. No it's does vanilla. We need to make our own of top fifty rappers that no one that didn't make the top fifty rappers list and then my cool phone is picnic tables. Oh yeah so another thing and i'm sure you guys have seen basically the internet. The past two days has been the pigs eggs which i'm hoping you guys. Can i have that as well. I'm sure p._f. Does throw hogs yeah. I don't get that at all. Oh yeah it's a problem what has been like a waste wrapping lists and and this fucking stupid name with the picnic tables where you just put anything in a picnic table and say which one would you want to sit at well. I think this is like okay mid august to get into like the psyche psyche of the internet here for a second. I think what has happened is when there is a mass shooting in a tragic event and like everyone doesn't really know how to react online because like that's really sad they just figure out the dumbest things we can then jumped to talk about so we can't go from mass shootings two like oh. Oh who's an elite quarterback. We gotta go mass shootings to a picnic table meam <hes> so it's kind of a pallet cleanser to getting back to the other stupid things a metaphor for sitting down at the picnic table of ideas. Let them develop an intelligent discourse with each other. I think you're right. I think that there's something to be said about like if you're going through a weird time like in the national areas things serious discussion you long for something stupid to argue and then everyone to have something to get into a fight it was somebody about the doesn't like displaces the real fight. They run correct so it's essentially like oh. This is something we can all talk about and make fun of that isn't serious serious to to get us off the serious stuff and then we will get to like the medium serious stuff that everyone takes too seriously and gets mad about online which is just a regular wednesday. The other thing was that all decades list for two thousand ten's and kobe was thirteen on it which i honestly think is fair well but he got hurt. No thirteen thirteen okay yeah thirteen. Yeah kobe's stands being like he should be first team these but it's like two thousand ten years right yeah he was. He won a title right lots. What's twenty four eleven. You're looking at the whole decade. His body work over the two thousand ten is not like promise he broke all his records then so oh that counts like at the end of his career and his achilles to kill his anti dropped like seventy points against the team wasn't trying in that last game. That was an awesome moment. Shadow kobe kobe. That's right. That's a p._e._t. Okay my hotseat is the n._f._l. One hundred logo. I'm already sick of it. I'm just squatting riding on this. Take let me look. I think everyone else is going to get sick of it too. They've overdone. It's not that cool logo to begin with but they've put it everywhere so far this year and it's going to be an every single game on every single on like they're gonna have a special patches on the jersey's chris collins where it's probably going to be wearing a lapel pen at some point with the one hundred logo on. I'm already sick of it and we've just had the hall of fame game okay so i my blood is going to be boiling over the course of this year. The problem is the fifty logo and the seventy five was awesome seventy five dollars a diamond right yeah the nineteen ninety four. I'm looking at right now. That's sick logo yep hundred. They didn't put any thought into it. Looks like you know a john always four tech's. It looks a little bit like the boards ex. It also looks a little bit like the like an expansion league football. Oh yes yes. You're absolutely right already. Forgot the name of the expansion league that folded the spring a af af i was going to a._f._l. That would've worked. Yeah looks like the af logo yes if it was designed by somebody with a head wound okay. That's a good hotseat and my cool thrown is michael crabtree. <hes> so michael crabtree decided not to sign with the arizona cardinals yesterday they brought him in. They got into negotiations with him and he said thanks but no thanks. I think i'm worth more it would have been a terrible move for him because he would have had to play against the kip to lead twice and so we were we were yeah. The done chain was about the hangover's neck in a kid was about to swipe it off and spit on the ground well. He probably was like you guys are going to pay me three million million dollars but i'm going to lose at least five hundred thousand dollars in chains. He should have had like an escalator and his contract. If i get my chain snatched right do replace it for me down like rain insurance. Damn come on michael crabtree the guy he the guy moves the chains <hes> is that it got too hot seats. The first one is not oh so we're taping this on august six and you have yet to wish mike greenberg happy birthday. It was my notes. Oh okay yeah so when we're going to do it was in my notes. I was going to do it fun fact. We're recording this true. After we wanna start the show i bet all right now. Okay now all right now who thrown second thrown mike greenberg. It's his birthday. He talked about it the entire show on get up this morning which i tuned into know how old old house mike. I don't know that's a good. I would not have done a day over forty five yeah. He seems like a guy who will just be forever and his forties. My the note that i had i was going to do all my ad rates in my mike greenberg voice okay we will matt patricia in yes. You'll have that to look forward to my view. Mike greenberg he is the promo code in our microphone is the wind beneath her wings. He is the man who needs a fork and knife tita grape yet well he also eats scrapes and three confusing that with pizzas pizzas says and wings for life and the grape yeah the gloves that's for southbound sandwiches sandwiches glove mike greenberg just not jerk off and mike greenberg gets interaction direction and wage for god to take care of. He goes belly up. Do you know jerome probably gets close to the jacuzzi thing in his big bathtub he goes belly up and he opens a window and then he just waits tonight there it is he just looks at. He looks at an aerial view of gusta. That's all it takes might've putting my other hotseat are feral hogs which you mentioned <hes> hank feral hogs are officially on the hot seat because the aforementioned there was tragedies on sunday or saturday so there's been a bunch of twitter gun debates and someone brought up a very actually the love like the most fair point that's ever been brought up. He was like what about the thirty to fifty. Feral hogs that run in my backyard and terrorize my children and i did a little research coach talked to some people who hunt for hogs. Apparently they're real problem only just run and just they will kill you. They're mad. They're insane so we need to do something about the feral hogs and feral hogs. I feel like have been living under the radar now that the whole country's got on them they're in trouble. I think they're definitely on the hot seat because people didn't know about it as somebody who's lived in texas for a while. They are a real issue. Yeah like you have people that set out explosives. They just blow up feral. I was watching a video called black hawk down today exe- helicopter they they pass a law in texas like five five years ago saying you can shoot them with a rifle nineties but for hogs yet no they knew that night and they just they just moma down and they're like i guess the meat's not even that good so they just kill it depends on what yeah sometimes it can be a little bit game. You have had wild-boar ribs four. I like that idea that making porn perry's for pigs. That's black hawk down. I watched that video that's pretty and then i found out also they have dogs that hunt hogs dogs and hawks and the the dogs like pin the hogs and then the guy comes in just slits its throat hog yeah no i don't i have heard of them. Hunting hogs with ten right which is just an explosive. It's shoot so you wait for all these hogs dogs to get around a barrel like it's doom video game and you just shoot the barrel yeah and it just explodes and incinerates fifty hog. I watched thirty to fifty video where they did a double. We'll trap on hogs on sixty hogs. They just put out a bunch of corn seed and they all start eating it and they drop these two huge traps on them and they went fucking crazy. I didn't watch the end because oppose the and i want to see a bunch of hogs killed even though the feral daryl and they're dangerous and they do a lotta destructive work to crops and what it means like wild they run everywhere. They got they got might solo. Pete got a big time issue. What are they going to do with the feral hog. They can't get close enough to him to save them. Yeah this is going to be. I actually would love to see a bunch of people going going down and being like save are feral hogs. Just run over them. <hes> i just think of the hannibal the shitty hannibal movie when the hogs eat the guy you gotta be careful who you get into bed with as peter and i feel like like the hogs don't want your has announced. Listen wild hog. They have a lot of pride. I feel like a wild hog would rather die by getting shot with a rifle from a helicopter then then have somebody from petah come in and pick it up and take it to safety verbal mean but not mean because no one is just a video that was shared last year. Wild hogs is running in its bret bielema running for the super bowl. Remember that video. That's pretty good yeah yeah. He was just trying to catch up to everyone all right. How about this live look at a wild hog. When you try to shoot it with caliber alber rifle that's too small and it's just a picture bobby patrol wearing his arkansas thing all the other the other fun fact i learned is a pig is a pig. A hog is when a pig gets to one hundred twenty pounds so i'm to hogs and get slaughtered plus you oxy up to hawks plus all right half which sounds cooler yeah yeah that is i'm. I'm adduced hog. That's pretty cool do sog so my cool. Thrown is the broncos because paxton in lynch bash them on hawks don. Did you know that yeah okay so paxton. Lynch said talking about the hawks feels closer feels like a family. I bring my fiance out here. I bring my dad out here and they even say it to. They feel so much more. Welcome around everybody. They're so good to them. They treat them so good. They treat the players good. It's actually well paxton. It feels like part of a family feels like everybody's close desk because you haven't been caught yet first of all i before you go any further. I just want to say i can't tell you anything. Ed paxton lynch says because he threw five interceptions in that ballgame when i bet on him he gets actually got. He didn't throw five interceptions that i looked back up. I definitely added a few interceptions too that all through a lot of interceptions and know how bad the weird sunglasses in a bowling alley early on his draft night yeah well. It wasn't just a weird sunglasses. That bothered me. It was the combo of the weird sunglasses the weird mustache and the weird little like like beat poet goatee a two year old drug high school drug dealer yeah yeah exactly. He looked like swag out of his white jenner. I was gonna say looked like a guy like duct tape mids to the underside of bikes and then drove his huffy through middle school trying to stay away from the cops trying to keep a real low profile. Yes oh paxton lynch now that i know that you're on the seahawks. I got my eyes on you. That was a big mistake talking yeah because now i gotta your feral hog in mind. Carol definitely didn't know that was on the team. Everyone the backup now on the seahawks. I love math is still there. I know he's not yeah and also to jackson yeah. Maybe seneca wallace to diverse jackson. He was a hot backup for weather's. <hes> wasn't hasselbeck didn't spend a year as backup. Yeah i mean yeah. He was obviously there for awhile but yeah then he think he had a year or two as a backup. Yeah i mean you could pretty much. There's like a list of five guys that if they were like that's the seahawks backup. Avak sounds interesting that he goes from one city. That's legalize marijuana to another many. Where's those glasses interesting all right. Let's tour mount rushmore because because we are in wisconsin. We thought we would do the mount. Rushmore cheeses a simple easy one that i'm sure we'll get contentious with people online because everyone's got their favorite cheese. She's <hes> hank dank. You're going. I am so and then me no no. I mean for keeping the same orders orders we always go. I go second now because you went. I on on sunday and then hank wettin than i did. I thought we all always clockwise starts. The way it goes. Is i start the week three and then i go to a one you start the week one three two. I go snake with myself. Yeah yeah so we were sitting goofy promised to do gold. You'd get that joke. Hanko keep simple american interesting burgers growing up. I always have american slices in my house cats. Do it's the other day yes go in the fridge. Take a couple of slices slices. It's just a couple of loose yesterday but loose ways through the refrigerator well. There's burst. There's no snacks. There was nothing nothing else so that was like i went for snacks and then it was like fuck doc he's back with chew slices of american cheese and a monster energy and i was like boo argue love ah you fold the cheese and a four slices so you get four little little slices. You break it in half. That's a five course meal jacksonville into force you break slice into force you take a slice fold that in half and youthful the half and a half and then you have four little slices of cheese. That's incredible. You're like bobby. Flay of american dress it up good presentation excellent pam right i'll go with. I'm gonna go with mozzarella because it's pizza cheez. Its versatile mozzarell- mozzarell- out g oughta says it always oh. I says any italian word. She's looking slights won. No no they're tasteful. It's like a small tasteful amount of cleveland so it's not like staring. It's just that i'm noticing appreciating and moving on wood. Sorrel okay okay so my first yep my first one. I'm going classic real classic. I'm gonna cheddar cheese. Yeah it's good cheddar cheese. Very versatile. Highly multiple works works on sandwiches now snack. Are we going straight cheddar or is there degrees of cheddar that can be used in this. I enjoy it. No i you get all the chatter. I think i'm a sharp sharp cheddar. If i have to choose i liked sharp cheddar better but i also like regular center as well <hes> my second choice. I'm i'm gonna go with problem. I love a good provolone on like a turkey sandwich okay. I think it's the best sandwich cheese. It's the most versatile sandwich cheese cheese on its own. Nobody is a great way here right like the best you don't do crackers you cheddar crackers correct right all right l. Finish the pizza then i'll go with parmesan also you can't have pasta without a little parmesan. It's sprinkling on hard cheese. It is true. Thank fucking tough. Cheese and hank would know about that. You'll tough cheese are hank. You got to hear all right. I will go with <hes> pepper. Jack good pick and melted just melt away. I don't know if we melted. What do you mean okay because if you take if you take that you took every kind of cheese but if you take cheddar cheese and it's like you put a hard cheddar cheese and a burger not good take churches and you melted on a burger delicious any any type of cheese melted on top of something makes it back that was i'll allow was a hack just hot cheese hot cheese. What about the flaming cheese in greek restaurants are flaming hot cheetos or hockey's. I gotta pick. I'll go with cream. Cheese could pick need cream cheese on bagel. I i mean you gotta. You gotta. You like flavored criteria. Okay oh yeah. I get fucking spicy with us. Sometimes i'll do sometimes do the locks. Sometimes i'll do a little fucking veggie. Feel feel like i'm eating a salad with my two bagels because you have to have to because you order one bagel to eat right away and then the other is like an hour later. You have to have two. That's how you get to. That's how you get to notice that the company. I'm not gonna you know like the world's ever. We've gotten a lot less bagels lately now. You'll fridays have gotten very very minimal fairs. It's concerning. Do you know that that's why. I didn't know that i just know that i come in and get one now. It's like i haven't got a big on a bagel friday eagle mondays on floor two bagel fridays on floor three walked up to the third floor for a meeting a couple of fridays ago and i was like what the fuck is this any. No bagels have been here the whole time. I walked around the corner because somebody tipped me off all the bagel sandwiches on floor three normal bagels are down here someone up to get myself a sausage egg and cheese breakfast bagel walk around the corner or i'm getting up to secrets out this guy no worse bagels ever to like an and the worst thing. What did you get our big order bar so this is now very wake review. No need to say it because someone needs to listen in fucking change aged. We get probably fifty bagels like five everything five sesame forty plane <hes> it's and you know what's weird is like the amount amount of plain cream cheese. All we get is always accessible to. There's always like two big pints. Leftover correct looks like a lab sample from pamela anderson that just got stuck in traffic. We can. I say something real quick. We just totally forgot the fact that there's ghosts in here like i'm not many aaron. I mean i'm sitting over. I was going to say like harridan have been in there looking for ghost and i i think they found out when we check in the hotel room then then right before it was like oh it's europe hank and now i'm realizing like we're going to find ghosts and mike yet but just give me a how many he goes to. We have okay all right. We'll come on the bed. Thank your bank. If those mike greenberg probably will be nut tonight hank just go into the do the tell liam. He's gotta stay in this way. What player fucked ghost. I think ronald test rotate good luck tonight. Hey you know oklahoma right. Bobby bobby brown bobby brown fuck goes and he liked it because he was. I went back for more. You say at the same hotel rental talks yeah all right. You have to pay my last two. I'm going to go with nacho cheese. Okay i love nacho cheese and this might rubs people the wrong way. I love it. The more unrealistic the cheese is like the more yellow the neon yellow colour you get with stadium nachos. I love that shit. Okay you like the radioactive goo love that on notch okay absolutely and then my last one never give you enough jalapenos. That's true that's true and sometimes they give you double cheese and sometimes you just want one cheese. Once also right in my last one is gonna cheesecake. Oh i love cheesecake. I'm never i've never been a big cheesecake. Gusting cake is so good especially if you get like a like a peanut butter chocolate cheesecake something like that but that's world cheese. It's the peanut butter and chocolate. It's still in the cheese rather have a peanut butter and chocolate ice cream cake that well. You know what cheesecakes more versatile. I'd say okay my last pick. I'm gonna go with a string cheese. You string cheese is so i had that cheese is a hack but string cheese isn't well no once you did melted. She's the doors on. That's fine cheese and i was going to go with something else. Go gouda we'll. We'll get honorable mentions but once you did melted it was game. I wanted to say cheesecake until melted. I actually have jeremy piven is in old school jeez. That's pretty good yeah true case oh because you did nacho cheese. I feel like it's different now. This is getting. I feel it's very similar. Only only we would fuck up mount rushmore cheese. I think case place. I think it's different than nacho cheese. I'm gonna say that nacho cheese yeah. I think it's different like taco. Bell like the what you get with nachos. He's always more like browner notes that a different two different types of care you to vote. I vote white caso and then there's yellow case youth. Nacho cheese is yellow akeso all right. I'm voting that accounts baba white case of thank you yeah white case okay okay why case for all right. I was going to go three shoes of it didn't count which i think would probably be a hack but what he's on like the mexican blend all-stock three different kinds of cheese yay. It's a thing you can buy in a package what our thoughts on blue cheese is probably the most contentious cheese out there. I used to hate it on now. I love it. I love it. I love it and she's though i mean obviously you guys know. I hate fucking hot wings. It's like people only like it's like hot. Wings are so people can only eat it with blue cheese so it becomes they order wings just eat blue cheese poochies catch. I like cheese at that smells. We're yeah that's what i love. Which really got to me in my old age is like a nice gorgonzola <hes> with a pair like that type of salad ricotta. You guys like mcconnell ricardo's good sweetness to it. <hes> <hes> let's see oh the little baby cheeses yacht the wheels. Yeah those are awesome. I would just a wheel of cheese. You don't like those so okay that khuda. I don't know what it is pretty good fedor fez score of salad. She's like you'd be like well on a road yeah or or yeah a giro giro to flaming cheese for that they bring out and they opa awesome. I like i like bre- i like <hes> <hes>. I like <hes>. Let's yari took good. I looked by a little bit melted. <hes> i'm saying like yeah squeeze run on toast. <hes> what other kinds of cheese i i think cheeses you can actually name all your kids after cheeses and it would work yet like kojak pepper. Jack bree mozzarella mozzarella. Says is the <hes> the shithead mozzarella the hallam you cheese. That's the shit you can grill. Hello me that stuff is so good yeah. That's tough is like cheating eating because i'll eat a whole thing of it and realize i'm a big cheese and crackers. I'll eat a whole wheel of cheese. No problem put it down and no trey wingo wouldn't even be mad no he would. He be impress exactly. I shouldn't have rich. What's the thinking of another <hes>. Maybe it's i dunno go. Cheese is good to coach coach man card. No go cheese. You kidding me chick cheese. I disagree. It's a big change for me. Go cheeses delicious. You spread on some crackers what the fuck triscuits. Maybe it is good that i like smoked. Gouda smokers smoke good is is is real good all right anything else have jack allison brie actress. Is she in anything. She's stunned regina. That's her <hes> now. We're just doing l. I met your mother. That's right my favorite show okay. Let's get to our interview with matt patricia after matt patricia. We're gonna do you some segments and then we're going to do the first ever guys ghouls and figure out what goes in this hotel room before we get to matt patricia what if the guys who made some of the most outrageous r. rated it'd comedies like super bad and sausage party decided to make an r. rated comedy starring twelve year old boys while they did and the result is hilarious. 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We're giving away right right now. It is audible dot com slash take or text take two five hundred five hundred get smarter and twenty nine hundred do it for i do it right now. Audible okay here. He is matt patricia. Ooh okay. We now welcome on very special guest. He is the head coach coach of the detroit lions. It's matt patricia. I was actually joking with p._f._c. before that. We usually do our grit week. How do you define grit <hes> during grit week in the spring but being around you you're such a football guy. I'm just going to start with that. How do you define grip grit. That's a good one football wise you. No i think we're probably talking about the toughest game all that run the ball stopping the run all kind of everything that has to do with drenches other than that. Just you know there's probably a lot of good things out there that you gotta kinda just handle and grind through from that as you gotta understand something like because it is we're taping this. The end of july and we want football. We'll be back so soon that you just saying you know. Just gotta handle your business in the trenches like that. That got me excited. I had goosebumps goosebumps kind of back in mode. Yeah bring strings a little bit different than it might be a different grit in the spring fullbacks. Definitely i mean you gotta you. Gotta get the full back out there. You gotta you gotta give them downhill and <hes> you know get the ball moving had football football. We gotta get ahead on the hat. I love it. I love it right back to the high school locker <hes> so <music> i wanted to the oklahoma drill and all the rest album the pencil. Can we do that real quick to sure. I'm glad you're wearing it. It's kind kind of permanent. Do you ever take a shower with it. You sleep with it. There's a lot of times. I forget it's there. They'll have a pencil and i'll have another pencil and i'm writing with and we'll stick back to him in there and i forgot the other one. Was there double festival. That's always a little bit of an issue. I think the most dangerous thing is that i've learned <hes> you know. Sometimes you see in friends. Nhs or family whatever it is and you might hug it up a little bit and you got to be real careful in the i._r._a. It's very dangerous so when people say like the pencil is a stick or over the top i mean how long have you been rocking the pencil in the year. Yeah i mean it's really just a good writing utensil. I mean i'm not really sure what we're talking about. It's just the fact that it works so <hes> we've had the pencil for a long time. Being a engineer who kind of background always use them. I honestly <hes> something where i just take notes all the time. I noticed by the way you're you're doing such great football guys speech speak that you're saying we've had the pencil on just talking about yourself yourself. Where did you have the training mode right now so switch gears. It's the collective team about. This team is always the same pencil by the way. This is only only gonna pencil. Questions isn't the same all the time. Do you have a go-to. We're definitely ticonderoga number two. That's our standard of ever from that. <hes> you know my kids kids have given me some pretty cool ones that i'll rock once in a while spider man. You don't want to be caught on camera where the spiderman central yeah not a not on game day. Can you tell when the graphite rafael too soft we just it's the same yeah yeah i'm more of. I used to be a barrel eagle pencil fan but they're too bendy i need. I need to like a little bit of solemness. You've got to be one of those guys. Pencil break game disappoint. You get the right pencil out of the right where the best for those it turned into like shredder all day based guys pencil. I want to compliment you. Make another comment about your parents appearance. You're rocking the hat forward these days. Is that like a professional. Is that like a cognizant thing. You were like you know. I'm a head coach now going to turn the bill around no just kind of just just a hat really yeah yeah. The other thing is sometimes forward sometimes backwards and we're going. Do you hear when i mean there was a whole thing last year about how oh you weren't dressing coach like and maybe trying to be bella. Check you listen. I suffer like i literally just dressing. I've always honestly probably wear the same exact thing every single day <hes> we're just got eight different versions of it's just steve jobs. Just kind of go to work yeah so you're not copying bella check you just your brain has been warped warped by him for so many years that you just look exactly the same things over and over. I think i kind of got my own luck. Do you do so. You're going into year two right now. You're one was probably like that was like a lot of stuff you find out on the job that you would not have been even prepared to know going into it. What was like the biggest thing thing that you didn't know going into your one that now you're making a change with for you to think a lot of things that you learn through the course so you're one that as you're doing it. <hes> i'd say one of the more interesting things for me. <hes> as i got here walked out to the practice field and <hes> you know i'm trying to visualize casual is how the fields are going to be set up and i'm looking at the space and that kind of turn said the grounds guy said <hes> where the goalpost and there was no goalpost and and now we have this leaves. We're gonna we're gonna like no we just kind of roll the goal post out and just kinda take him back and i was like okay can we. Let's start with goalpost. Let's talk. They're so pretty poor apart right at the ground level or just trying to get it all right and you know make sure we can go out there and practice series fans would probably hope for fewer just get rid of them all together. Let's get to that because i am a bears fan and i have said some things about the lions and you so. Let's get out in the open. <hes> last year i after three guys lost against the jets said you lost the locker room now. I say that because it just sounds cool when you're like well i think he lost the locker room. When you don't really have anything thing to say of substance in the media business you can always say lost the locker room. So did you ever lose locker room locker rooms downstairs since saint place ah okay good okay and then the other one. I think you saw this clip. Mike florio when i was on with him on n._b._c. sports he said ed don't sleep on the lions. This year and i said you could sleep on the lions every year. Never wake up. I mean that's you know that's good for us. We like that little motivation baltimore. We're good. We're the bears. The packers yeah likings. Obviously just you know we're. We're trying to catch up. I think it's it's fair that i got it out in the open. We like to do this because we don't want to walk out of this interview and then you see that we said something in the past. Oh these guys are two faced. Yeah kiss my butt so i had i had had a couple. Things and i don't think they're that bad now the first one you're all dressed up one day i said i think you were wearing the black <hes> bowling shirt or the ghia bar ones awesome. It is nice. It's nice shirt but i said i did say this map. Patricia looks like a hot topic manager going to a funeral general. <hes> sorry plays so i said that at one point i also i say oh he uses a pencil on laminated piece of paper would a total psychopath awesome and then i also accused you of faking the hawaiian nuclear missile because you're a rocket scientist to throw mark mary off before you beat them in the playoffs. Is that day so just want to get that all in the open. You guys feel better water on. I honestly good good okay all right so the rocket science scientists what is part of your <hes>. You know education <hes>. Do you think you on moscow's a fraud. Wow these are really in-depth questions. I'm just trying to make sure we got practice. Just right for your crop. We haven't gotten out so no. That's a good one. That's really unlike the ones that you guys usually give me when you're sneaking into buildings trying to come up with questions to ask about so. I haven't gotten that one yet. <hes> let me let me back okay. Look you look into it. Do you could you could you put a rock in the air right now. Do you have enough absolutely not okay. There's no chance if i give you all the raw materials and lock you in a room with food water toilet for six months. Could you build a missile to the moon we're. I'm just trying to make sure that we can get a first down. We're focused on getting down his rocket science. It's not rocket science football football. Is there like i assume assume you keep in touch with some of the people that you went to school with. Is there an element where they're like. Hey man you're wasting your time. If you're you know you're an n._f._l. Coach that's beneath. You should be bill used to be out. You're designing like boeing planes that don't crash pretty much definitely not you lost me there for a second. I wish i got out of engineering. I'll have tried to get into coaching. That's when i got the sideways looks a little bit of you know. What are we doing but okay. So what was it about about coaching that it's obviously like a much much different career path than the path that you could have gone down. What was it about coaching particularly that you were like. You know what it's worth it for me to to follow my passion. Maybe take a few steps backward in terms of pay all that stuff like what was it that made you decide to go down that road yeah good finally question here we go. We finally rolling on this thing. Is this real good okay perfect. You know what that is. It's a great question. I think for me. I'm doing engineering and playing college football obviously a very small school but <hes> when the game's over it's over. There's not like you can't go out and play with your buddies. Ladies on saturdays. We're not throwing the equipment on having a game so the aspect of the game that i missed the most of the crime rotary and the relationships and all that so <hes> you an engineering remember just kind of that i fall that came around that was without football and the smell of the grass and you get that feeling you get a little bit of nervousness little bit of excitement and you just want to go out there and and go practice and and i just knew i had to be back around it so i think at that moment i really thought that <hes> you know i'd be a lot happier just trying to help people and coach teach the game whether it was high school college professional whatever it was <hes> you know the relationships is what it's all about building those relationships and hold onto him so <hes>. It's something you just can't really get anywhere where other than the game of football has a very good answer. I i imagine you can correct me if i'm wrong but when you join the patriots coaching staff you join at an offensive assistant at first. You're probably not doing a lot of hands on instructing all the time one on one with guys from what i know about the organization they start you out here doing data entry or log in film film doing all this stuff. What was it about like even though it wasn't a glamorous job at the time that made you say hey. I want to stick around because i know eventually like i'll get to that place where i work with guys. I don't know if all of that is really accurate. You know to be honest with you. I think when you go into a staff and you know you're part of the coaching staff. You're doing a lot of things. Are you doing a lot of those type type of you know breakdowns and data entry and analytics part of it sure <hes> but you're out in the field and every single day we're coaching. I was working with the offensive line at the time them and <hes> you know just developing that relationship with those guys and <hes> you know for me is just again. It was another part of the path that i wanna go along to try to be a coach and i was obviously at a <hes> great place in working for great people so <hes> you know it was all i was all really good but now you move on we're here and we're trying to do the same thing you're trying to trying to develop coaches develop players <hes> put everything together from that atmos- point from a culture and build it from the ground up and foundation and that's the fun part when you get to kind of just start over and see what you can do yeah yeah you bring up a kind of a cool point. What's the difference between coaching players and coaching coaches yeah. It's a great question really is probably the yeah you're good yeah yeah so as long as we just go from where we started from. Now i know i screwed up my question. How i'll i'll say this. One of the biggest things is obviously development players but you know you do have to develop coaches and i think as a head coach you coach the entire team. I think as a coordinator you spend allows allows. I'm coaching the coaches and the coaches the players you know you're in the meeting rooms with them. <hes> when you break out of the big sessions and going to those individual rooms and you're teaching fundamentals and techniques and all that so <hes> you just look it doesn't matter it's all about <hes> trying to improve everybody in whatever their job is and and that's important. Certainly you're trying to get better yourself so it was that a hard transition transition <hes> going from according to head coach and being like hey listen sometimes. I can't just teach technique to defensive lineman. I have to step back and be like someone else got to do this. I would say it's just it's an interesting transition. You know it's it's there's so many things that tug you in a lot of different directions that you may not be kind of in you know the the ground level as much which is you want to. That's certainly interesting you definitely experience a little bit of that when you kind of go from a position coach to coordinator a little bit <hes> because there's different responsibilities you know so so we've heard through the grapevine and also i think i've read stories where bella check <hes> would help his assistance every year kind of give them. Maybe a little lesson on on what is like to be a head coach. Do you remember one of those years where he either gave you a task or gave you a lesson like this is what's gonna be different when you become a head coach coach and i had a lot of long conversations a lot of great conversations <hes> he's. He's a great man. He's a he's a great friend and you know he did a lot for me and i'm. I'm really thankful for that so we'll. We'll just leave it at that is it. Is it weird. I was good those of you. You're never going to reveal secrets was it is it tough though because i think the media's fascinated with bell checks coaching coaching tree and like you said your close friends with them. He's taught you a lot but then to step outside of that shadow. Do you feel that at all because you get feels like every guy who leaves to england gets judged by bell checks standards rightfully or not you know it. It definitely feels like that in the media. I mean pretty much focused. It's not just trying to get the lion's right so for me. It's just all about the detroit lions and <hes> this community this fan base this ownership and this team and really what's what's awesome is the fancier unbelievable you know when i see him out and get a chance to to say hello <hes> there so excited and it just that's one of those things that drives me back to work and make sure that i'm grinding away to. I try to do everything i can to get this right. You should get a picture of detroit don and superfan and just like every day when you get in your truck. I assume you drive a truck. <hes> you just look at that picture and you're like these guys. Do you know those guys. Would i mean we gotta get some posters up. We gotta get that aspect of those. Two guys drive a truck. We're we're speculating drove silverados pickup truck. I know you drive the a._t._v. Cardi drive crashed right yeah. No that's fair. That'd be a ford yeah yeah. We're in detroit hand up that was that was a big mistake. So what do you drive a truck f to fifty yeah. That'd be awesome. If you've prius sorry guys it is what it is that we really don't drive much pretty much. It's out there and you signed find. Mike daniels congratulations he said in his i think one of his first interviews. He said he signed here. Because of you specifically. He called you a genius how many extra extra millions of dollars that you pay and i'm saying you know he's just he's a great guy. You know he's he's coming in ready to work and we're excited sided to work with them so <hes> can't wait to get it going. I obviously a guy that i have tremendous respect for you know he's a problem out there on the field and i'm glad he's on our side and <hes> summer that i watch extensively you watch players in the league and you know you go through weekend week out and game plan and evaluate <hes> you know you tend to look guys and said well. That'd be we got. We think we could do something with and work with but <hes> we got to see we'll get there. How cold is too cold to not wear shorts good question. The cold isn't really. It's the wind coca. Cola doesn't bother me so much. The wind is that's. That's bad okay so like ten degrees but no wind shorts. I think we're good short short yeah. I think we're good. Do you worry at all about <hes>. Sometimes people say bigger guys in a big guy too big guy bigger. Guys are the ones who wear shorts in the in the winter and we kind of get a bad rap for it got it. I think you lost weight though i'm in the process. I've been on three days doing good. I see that it feels good yeah. I'm just going to practice practice. Whatever's coming pretty much run into practice. I'm i'm like i got my script. Let's get out there and let's okay all right so c._k. Question put in the promo code. Take ten dollars off goto lions game. This year see matt patricia on on the sidelines scekic pro. Take i wanna play a little game. We are at the combine. Would you ask us to stud. We're doing tandem hannam interview. It's kind of weird were to stud prospects. What's the what's the go to question to figure out what we're made of sure. <hes> thank first question i'm going to ask you is what position you play. I'm actually h athletes so you can put me anywhere great. How about yourself. I'm offensive weapon. Okay perfect so we're pretty good the guys can do you have any goto like maybe ones that you've retired because you don't want anyone's that us now anyone's that you've used used in the past that you're like. This is a good question that gets to kind of to the bottom of it not like. Are you a dog or cat yeah no. We're just just trying to get basic information that number and stuff probably know as much as you need to know about a player you bring them in and make sure you can look at the eye and that things sir okay that he doesn't try to flips. They're on a job interview. That's pretty much exciting. Do you love watching film yeah. Absolutely i could tell when you were talking about. Mike daniels a second ago that you got excited because you've seen them plan film sure probably game playing against him and now you're like hell. Yeah gets to be on our side. Who is <hes>. Who's your favorite player to watch on. Fill my favorite player to watch on film. This is a great question there. You go jim brown. Wow okay that would definitely be jim. Motto of big jim otto fan growing thought he was pretty cool. <hes> with the double zero so just just loved the game. All there was a great. I think it was called. Crunch course back in the day in the in the as it was a great video that the n._f._l. Did that i think <hes> n._f._l. Films that do such a great job of capturing the game. I think that was one of the more of the ones i remember <hes> distinctly that just y- you fell in love with it and you fell in love with the game <hes> what's the most amount of film watched one sitting. I don't even think you can count that. We talk in twelve hours more. I mean there's usually something that comes up. You're not gonna gonna sit there twelve hours straight but i mean within a day. I mean you're grinding. We're we're watching tape so when you're watching tape what's your what's your setup like. You got a nice monitor. Jeev excel spreadsheet pulled it up hot topic questions right here. We love it. This is the nitty gritty yeah for real say in my office. I think i have probably four monitors to televisions that. I watched a film off of her. Just you constantly just kind of have everything up and and you're rolling so yeah. Do you think it's so point the n._f._l. Do like three d the film where you put on the glasses we we might have a little bit of that going dreaming film. I don't even know if i dream anymore. I think i just kind of blink and then i wake up and it just keeps going and so that's a big time. Football guy answer were you. Were you concerned when there were the reports that hard knocks was going to be here this year gin again. How just really trying to focus on the spring at that point. I think <hes> so it was my dog that started that rumor by the way yeah yeah. It's it's interesting how your your dog spawned a lot of text messages to my phone. You know there's a direct correlation there he he was acting on a hot tip. He's been disciplined. I won't happen. I suspended him from twitter for. I think like a week which is actually seven weeks in dog years. He's been off for a while so you. You were a defensive coordinator for the patriots. Tom brady. Would you say the way to beat tom. Brady is to pressure the quarterback yeah so you know we're good practice today. We got a lot of early down situations here. We're gonna get into some you have to love. They'll come on the. I love whenever someone would be like back in the in it still happens but like the key to being the patriots of sack the quarterback. I think the key to beating every team is to sack the quarterback. I think the key to beating team. Is you know the score yeah. You're going and do that. I know you're going to that score more points than the opponent. He's a math guy yup that is there's a math guy sean through <hes>. What's what's the one thing that if you're at a practice at the end of the day you're like today was a good practice as opposed to like a bad practice because a lot of times. If i've gone to a training camp it kind of all looks the same but what are those details that us everyone. I know that make the difference. Hey circle back. You've redeemed yourself. You're back on the original. There you go good job. I would say for me as a coach. I watched all of it. I wanna see obviously the pace temple abo- <hes> the execution the communication. I wanna see it all operating in working at a high level. <hes> you know we look at the game and we look at practice. There's just certain things that you know that we can't live live with that are gonna come up in the game if they happen that will lose so trying to eliminate those mistakes and just be able to go on practicing in put stuff on film that we can then take into the classroom and teach off of that's the most important thing and we kinda walk field feeling like we can really learn from today. I think that's when you feel the best. I think the one thing i was told a while ago and it's probably true is <hes> when you when you're watching practice i think when it's done it's never as bad and it's never as good so when you go back and look at the tape probably maybe it was a bad practice probably not more good in there than you thought you. It was a good practices. There's probably some things in there. You gotta get fixed. Just try to keep it even when we interviewed doug marrone. He said he sometimes closes is during training camp and listens to to the pads and helmets cracking. What's your favorite football sound yeah. That's a great. That's a great kind of <hes>. You know moment. I i distinctly remember early training camps in my career. <hes> you know there's different points of camp like rookies or early trying to get whatever it is and then when the full team got back out there the the sound of the game <hes> it's awesome. It's you know it's just kind of just brings you back into that moment and <hes> when you get the pads you know and they're and they're cracking out there and and guys are communicate and yelling and screaming and gidon. You know everything <hes> worked up. It's <hes> that's fun us. You know fired up. Let's go so you can probably tell the difference between good practice and a bad practice by a lot of the sound because we're talking about tempo good or bad but you can tell definitely tell the difference <hes> hundred percent and if you're if you're trying to have a physical practice and you don't hear it <hes> probably you know because they're not being physical and yeah and that's something you've got to work on. What's what is everyone wants wants to be a line until it's time to do line shit mean to you. That's a that's a good one right there. <hes> yeah it. Is that too great saying. I don't think i can take credit for that. Okay yeah not at all so yeah. We're just trying to come to work every day and i feel like a mouse in a maze and every now and then i just run right into a wall. You give me an answer that just football guy answer that. I know i can't get it. I turn around you. Keep calling. Where am i going again and again trying to get to choose one of these times learn. You know what i'm having a great time. Here's an easier question. Do lines concern turned themselves with the opinions of sheep. That's another great quote. <hes> i'm gonna mess this up lebron james yeah. I don't think it was so how do they do. They concern themselves. You're going to have to go ask okay. Give go ask a lot. I am asking lion yeah. We're the head coach. Okay okay no motivation idea for you guys. It's gonna silly yes at the entrance. There should be like a stuffed sheep and then when you walk past it. Nobody's nobody's allowed to look at it no icon because we don't concern ourselves of that. It's like some coaches have the football on the wall that you hit every time you just don't look at the sheep that's good it will work <unk> down the line somehow. I don't know what about a lion cage as well kind of really get out. There would definitely going down a path. You okay last question <hes> how oh was our posture in this interview. <hes> posture was okay. Okay <hes> some slouching definitely some leg crossing. That was good yeah. Fidgeting dropped notepad sunglasses inside. It's your thing. It's like my pencil at school where she got married so i get it but <hes> you know just a little bit more. Maybe on attention okay. I'll tell you what i dropped pad but i didn't pick it up because i felt like we were having such a good boy. We're going to tell me how we're unbreakable went right through that and <hes> you know one. Hundred percent didn't let that break your stride all right last last question for me. How long would two guys like us last in matt patricia. 's coaching staff. Yes that is a good one. How long have you been in the building. <hes> like thirty five minutes probably worn armed bucked we've had can we take some more of those diet cokes. He's on the way i get every okay. We're we're good at <hes> ordering dinner. We could do that. It'd be like hey anything. I'm you know that happens to be one of my favorite things so guys. There's value there right. Here's value oh. You got that value to the team. Even your to your job. We're like our job is to order the pizza dago done. That's what we're going to get my last last question <hes> there was that famous picture sure of last year's practice when you guys were outside in the snow which i enjoyed. You like practicing outside more than you practice inside. Even if playing an inside game is that is there like something more that you can teach outside. Surely is a practice <hes>. Does it sink in more. If you're outdoors as opposed to inside yeah i mean i think i just love being outside most of the time in my world it's seventeen fluorescent so i don't really get out there that much unless we're in practice and think you know we can go out there and practice safely. There's a lot that goes into it about being on the grass as opposed to to the turf and <hes> you know certainly i think that point the year we still had to outdoor games <hes> that definitely could have been pretty severe weather so just took a good opportunity to practice in it before we got in it for for the first time and didn't know how to respond but we moved on from all that i think we're we're good just trying to practice right record. This year guaranteed guaranteed in his own. Oh so yeah. We're trying to go to know i mean. I'm trying to win tomorrow. I'm trying to win the rest of this interview. Yeah you're good. You're good. I think i think i think we're good okay. You can take that walk. Get better every day. I appreciate it better with <hes>. What what did you would. You hurt we have we have a foot injury or lower body injury. I like what you have. There's no weakness is something something got you to the dr br grudgingly i assume definitely there's no way you went there and then you came out with the cast and you know we'll coupla a couple of hours later and it was a cast and you know just can't put any way i'm shocked that you didn't go with the <hes> light-colored cast and have everyone signed. You seem like that type of guy yeah. I think a couple of players here's we're trying to sign it as i was willing to kind of go a little faster so they couldn't autograph it. Yeah yeah all right coach. Thank you so much. It's been a ton of fun seriously sleep. We could do this forever because go running into the wall and it's very very funny yeah. I don't know why reporters complained about honestly yeah yeah just you you keep i._r._a. Questions until you get one good one and then the other ones that are just going to suck and you're going to give us the you know the rodents yeah we will wear you down eventually went by uh. 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Tom brady he is putting his house house up for sale which is always sign number one so he's might be the new coach of alabama. Yeah i mean that's it is. We're all we need. Is his tail. Tell number for his private jet anytime. Any celebrity gets involved in selling their house. You have to make that you have to get just a little bit yeah. Jon gruden was looking looking at houses in knoxville last year. That's true yeah. You always gotta. Pull that out there. Are you just a little bit worried that this is last year. It's kind of weird. No kind of just just restructured his contract and any has like a thousand houses images l. point. He's just probably moving to all the real estate. He owns and everybody else's brain. Wow including both of yours gotta so you know you you. I wish i one day i'll make a compilation of every single time you guys have been like here's a story about tom brady and can nervous well. I mean talk radio like we should. We knocked show topic. You guys want you guys want him to regress once. I don't know coverage coverage gets on the beat. You got a notice the buzzer covered by way the preeminent real estate <hes> celebrity site that and yeah like somebody that there maybe possibly possibly dating dated in college. They'll get the bikini pictures this house. I saw pictures are insane. Yeah now where we look inside of the house <hes> i feel like all the pictures of the guest house which was nicer than any other house ever been so that was just a guest house so you're not nervous at all. Zero percent names percent all right good no. I just think it's interesting selling his house. That's a weird process to go through as you're in the middle of a stressful about to get started with the season he's going to have to do like oh. Hey a tom <hes> on thursday. We have some clients. Can you clean up the house yeah. He's going to get that email <hes>. Tom left out all your weird avocados. Keep them away tom. Tom there's a lot of flies in the kitchen. Can you make sure you put down the seat on all the toilets because that's a real estate trick that kinda stuff. He's definitely got a urinal in that house. Hubbert talk radio probably dude show about it. Shall i know the one that's in. He can't hit a wall shot coach dana urinal and his house member by the way. I'm gonna put this on the a._w._s. To remind us week two of college football friday night on e._s._p._n. Houston verse washington state. We gotta get coached in and mike leach on before okay so remind us because we're going to forget also one day the yeah the week before it's coming up. We'll get them both on also. I'd like to make a quick announcement here. This is a verbal notes ap gai so this. I'm saying this out loud in the notes abc from p._f. Commentator i'm sorry allison brie did not put a flute into her pussy. That allison brie was different actress us like so so sorry about that okay all right well. We regret to inform you. I was incorrect so we fix it. We always we always fix mistakes next. I will work nonstop to be better at determining which celebrities have have made jokes about their pussies next we have a way to stay relevant baseball players weekend and they have the new jersey's and last year they were fun weird colors nicknames. They put the nicknames in the back this year all black and white <hes> straight black and white. I actually think this is a genius move by baseball heinous the jerseys but genius move to get everyone to talk about yeah genius move also it's probably the most was fixable mistake of all time yeah they can act like they're being the adam silver now where people can get mad about them and they can instantly be like okay. Here's our new version and you just added like colors on the letters yeah so they can save it piping yeah they can they can they can save it real quick but i there's a element that that i kinda like color russia. That's all one color and sometimes colors on baseball. Jerseys just look like the devils instagram problem. I have with it. Is that if you don't have black or white in your team colors. It's just weird to where completely different color than your team colors nap. Part part is weird to me. They should make the white sox. Just get dressed up in like bright pink. Yeah just took something totally different. You know what i mean. I do yoga as and you're wearing all <music> all white jerseys like what are all black jerseys. They might have the piping like i said in the hat but like all black traditionally what's going on or the race or wearing all black jurors. You don't have that anywhere anywhere near colors yeah i i agree. I think that it is kind of gross to look at. I look like alternatives that you can only find to buy like san francisco kirkland. I picture that as like i've seen so many forty niners jerseys. They're just all blacked out right. That's what i imagine and now they will get some and buzz when they take the field on players weekend and everyone's like what the fuck is going on. This is real so good good on you. Baseball staying relevant also shout out to max scherzer. You know how they're letting and you put your name. You want on the back of your jersey. He's going brown eye nice yeah. That's got to be solid fucked up blue yeah but brown yeah that is good <hes> <hes> right yeah. No i get it in the dugout. Yeah there you go <hes>. We have a even a blind pig finds an acorn new new segment. The redskins are doing something correct. Somehow somehow someway well. No 'cause makes dan snyder month. They're going to figure out a way way to screw it up pretty quickly but yeah they're offering live in game betting on their first preseason game but it's not like betting in the traditional sense where you can put up fifty bucks and then get fifty bucks back to whatever instantly it's like whoever picks the most plays correctly during this quarter will get a thousand dollars okay but this is so perfectly dan insider is it not that like the world's finally collided where the on the move right now is to embrace gambling and it also will make dan snyder even richer than he he is so he can finally have one correct move but he's so dumb that he's going to screw it up. I he probably actually believes that because his team is named the redskins. It's he's allowed to operate a casino definitely definitely i think he believes that like in the quarter federal law yes. He'll be fine in the absolately all right. Let's wrap up with guys on ghouls air and you want to come in here and let us know what we found so we have the guys and girls from supernatural investigation investigation crew in the shadows. They've been searching for ghosts entire time. You guys found something so. Is it going off right now talking yeah so some of it is kind of triggering right now. I'm on both corners of the bed and also the center of the bed. We've also got a little bit activity going there and you say triggering what does that mean. Are these snowflakes where they protesting protesting the presence <hes> no so it's actually a equipment that we have so one of is is on electric scope. It's done by perr. Knowledge is basically a measure static energy and picks up on high levels of it so unless you're physically touching this thing we're moving your hand right above it <hes> <hes> it shouldn't be picking up anything. It shouldn't be lighting up the questions you're asking. You were silently asking questions yes so i was asking questions like if there is anybody here if there's anybody see that wants to communicate if anybody is going to be staying in this room later and it popped up. Yes that's when you asked. Is anybody going to be saying this room later with a like definitely it was like a very solid green guy's voice or a girl's voice. I didn't hear the voice but good luck. Let us know damn now. I mean we're we're joking but like we're actually serious yeah so we probably have the same ghost now in your so a little backstory. You guys have been doing this row long long. I've been doing it probably for a couple of years now erin. How long have you been doing it for me to aaron's doing for twenty now. What is like the wildest ghosts that you've found. Oh god because i believe there's been some really really crazy ones. There's been all the legal abortion doctor ghost. Oh so okay ghost was it was an abortion doctor. He was like a regular medical practitioner by day but by night he was giving all his mistress. That's so now we're talking about like fetus ghosts. I know we didn't pick up these could it was his head does a lot of it's very in the backyard of the house. What's his office. Oh my god so can i can. I hold one of these instruments so this is the instrument that i ask questions greener read all its slight ingredient because you ask. Is this the instrument that is there a ghost in here. We got a hold it okay. They shouldn't be all that long. It's okay so you're here dude. Your hair can wait. It's right. It's right here. Look at it. I'm going like this off. Hey ghost he's literally sitting baba pointed right above. Nobody's sit no bu-but move away. He's sitting right next to me sitting right here. The ghost is right here the question what's your name is lebron james. The goat no is michael jordan. The goat kobe michael jordan john michael jordan. He thought kobe's should have been higher on that list is not not five nine. Yes solid rudy. Shout out to the right. They can feel like feel everything they feel my energy okay. I got five nine energy. Even if i don't find this instrument tells us where the gosar then you also have this explain this to the people who are listening. Some people are watching but mostly tables a three sixty. It's a lot like this right here <hes> but oh actually go with movement around so we were in a jail in indiana one time and we put it between two cells so we asked the spirit you go from one or the other and it literally lit- half horseshoe around where it looks like it walked out one cell right into the other cell so that's crazy easy. Thing is a little bit might be a little harder to here is kinda knowing in a way okay so a reverses radiofrequency so like a._m. F._m. like like stations really fast scans at really fast rate and you're not supposed to really understand anything so if you pick up any words on it that could be someone trying to communicate with you especially. Actually it's like a curse word because of f._c._c. regulations all right. Oh so this is finding ghosts. You can cuss on this podcast. Fuck fuck doc. This is crazy here. I'm mike it up late at night and so what what what should we be looking forward to go. Show up whipping out. Well it depends. This location is known for a lot of like static static play. That's a ghost talking. That's goes talking. I believe this shit so much. It really did okay all right heard some earth in ohio trying to talk at least got chicken inc. This is crazy. We make sure you get this. This side of it which it's bubba can get that it. I mean there's a ghost talk. It added it. I mean these are answers alison. There's someone trying to talk to us first. This is wild so normally on stuff like this is kind of hard to hear what the naked ear right off the bat yeah so on this you'll record. We'll play back a lot of times when you play back and lets the audio. You can normally hear pretty close so you've been able to do that where you've been able to here. Go back where you'll hear you like oh. I think it said mike acre something we turn off now. Okay that that i mean nothing was talking. I heard several nothing was talking so so you play that back and you can hear like people actually speaking yeah so right off. The bat like you said it's really really hard to decipher comes so quickly so fast so we'll take it home. We'll slow it down. We'll listen with it's a really great headphones and we'll try and decipher it. A little bit clear on location is we'll take a device like this or spirit box. We'll we'll put them on headphones and blindfold people people and we'll send them in a chair and so now they can't hear you can't see the last questions and then the person with the headphones listening white noise and the radio and the minute they hear in voice voice or anything they spit out whatever it set and a lot of times. We'll answer the questions. We're asking talking through nato no we're. We're asking the body yeah now can you can you tell the difference between like a happy benevolent ghost and like an angry ghosts. How can you tell that what do we have the voice i mean you'll you'll get some real voices. Sometimes i in the box goes off. We're like okay. We're getting subway from minnesota ghost in your expert opinion. Would you say it sounds like it's franklin and what two or three women's voices of at least one meal nice hardy hank you. It's twins hank your dream. I'm and i'm just gonna. I'm gonna i'm gonna leave and i'm just gonna pretend like this never happened. Okay so you do know you have to come and listen to this back probably and you believe that there are ghosts here. Oh yeah yeah yeah. Hundred percent goes so like when you go somewhere. Great this compared to your other places. You've gone like this is a pretty active place or medium. It is is with some of the reports especially from people that are self claims skeptics. I'd say yeah. This is a very active place. There's a lot of history any recommendation of what you can do like if if hank in the spirit tonight or something unusual happens while he's trying to sleep is her way he can tell the spirit like i'm okay. I don't fear you. Please don't hurt me. Kerm always be firm. Can kinda like hank has trouble with that sometime. Be firm with them and say kit heck out of my room or i mean you could say they're supposed to respect you so so it doesn't always happen that way where you're gonna get holy water at lake midnight but you can shot on the i'm a minister. I'm a minister. I will oh bless. Oh wow okay. Hey tell you what i'm going to bless. I don't want you bussing this coffee. I don't want it. I now concentrate this coffee water. So so what last do we have any questions for the people all right so last couple of questions from people supp- p._m._t. Boys could u._s. Goes hunting fellow if he's ever been attacked by slash possessed possessed by slash interact with a ghost or their most chilling interaction with the paranormal being. Can we have like another slash in that. Yes our listeners <hes> <hes> so i don't think ever been necessarily like attacked by anything gotten some very negative energy thrown on me. That's very you think i'm gonna tax. I don't know if i'd call it. An attack sounds like what say what that we're at hill's bar dam in chattanooga tennessee and this this is an old like damn right on the tennessee reverend energies crazy there she there's tunnels that you have to get into to get into this dam. It's really weird but she was one of the tunnels during the headphone experiment and the blindfold you like some dark. Stop coming through. We have to pay all right switch page. Supernatural investigation crew s._i._c. in the shadows next question hank do go sleep like why did they only come out at certain times of the day. What else could they be doing so. There's a lot of theories so we've actually seen activity during the day. Sometimes we'll have more activity the at certain locations during the day than we would at night it kind of depends on the energy of the building. I don't think they sleep. I think they do run of energy. Though so if there's not a lot of people around or not a a lot going on you're not as likely to see us frequent haunting allow your common common haunting residual energy so it's something like you do the same thing every single day you get up at eight o'clock shower. Go to work so this goes after it's it's gone. It's still doing the same exact thing so it's getting up. It's going zika shower. It's going to work so it's residual see that's when you'll get it like sometimes in hot spots at certain times in the morning or at night or something like that because they're still doing the same exact thing assume they're probably stuck. They know where they don't know. They're dead yet. They're stocking. I've wondered about that like if ghosts if when you're not around them if if they just like kind of fade away for a while and then the the energy of having other people around kind of bring some backup offer that will also see like overload so there's too many people too much. We'll see kind of less activity. It's like they shy away from it. Live in house in a ghost like comes out at eleven p._m. Every night that goes probably jerking off ah p._m. When he was alive and it could be i'm just saying like that's the thing you've got to think about now. That's a very specific time to name. Those go to excuse me at house about like cats cats they. They'll be around there one person's around but if you have a party they'll go hide and like their little corner and the city goes to okay all right next question. <hes> why do only human goes haunted living. Why do we not see animal ghost their murderers so we do see animal ghost though yeah there's a theater that we go to every year and waukegan illinois called the genesee theatre and one of their biggest haunting is a dog no way spooky nineteen hundreds theater and back in the day these have showed docks so during the old shows the laud villain on south have dogs in them to keep him chained up downstairs so they still have hooks where the dogs would be chained up down there under the stage. You'll hear barking and everything else. That's sad that's really coulda fish hypothetically like if somebody back accidentally murdered official whatever could fish have a ghost could be just hope hoping to flush it down. The toilet snow buried it and then put it in her freezer then flushed yeah. We've lost a couple of them. We're not we're not fish. Killers schwartz say we had many fish but we're not fishkill and what is the difference between go schools and spirits could so so who do you want okay so goals are typically going to be a lot more <hes> malevolent energy something a lot more negative <hes> you can also kind of put that into like the string string of something that has the characteristics of being demonic <hes> but not necessarily within that range could have been <hes> human at one point but now it's more poltergeist tasty. If that's a word that's really where now any he's <hes>. Ghosts are going to be human spirits <hes> so spirits and ghosts kind of interchangeable term. You might say but they're going to be something. That's like a residual haunting got it. Okay okay so watch out for goals. Yes okay all right late last one are there good haunting or they always bad or ultimately all about the perspective of the haunted. There's good ones yeah yeah. There's something on my vegas. Biggest interactions. I've ever had with a spear was my grandfather so i think a lot of them are lost loved ones. That might be hanging around. Guardian angels type thing. I think is what i think. A lot of the spirits are things just has a negative connotation die. You won't go where you're most happy. I mean that's why you have a a lot of energy like theaters and just happy places because that's where you're happy where you're living. Aren't you gonna be happy when you're dead there. So a lot of you'll get a lot of happy stuff <hes> everything's negative and demons and they send aaron running everywhere but i mean that's what hollywood sharks. The ghost yeah scared them. Yeah i mean they feed off the the demon aspect of things and so a lot of huntings that we see a we try to deal with are happy. They're happy where they are their content were they were they are. They're either in their home or somewhere. In there like slaves lower work till okay so to sum up <hes> check them out they dr the supernatural investigation crew s._i._c. in the shadows aaron annely. If you're in the midwest they're located northeast illinois but if you're in the mid west you gotta ghost they'll come out and there are definitely ghosts in this room right confirmed berms and thank you guys. This was awesome. Appreciate it. Yeah uh <music> yeah. It's a <music>. Stay the shot anyway breath <music> <music>.

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