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Michael Brantley Stays, Rockets Lose Again, Astros Sign Another Player And The Texans Drama Continues

The Sean Salisbury Show

2:46:21 hr | 3 months ago

Michael Brantley Stays, Rockets Lose Again, Astros Sign Another Player And The Texans Drama Continues

"The quarterback longtime friend sean salisbury. This is the sean salisbury. Show got good news this morning. Welcome command. I won the powerball. You wish he would have been nice Somebody did maryland. i think it was maryland. I don't live in maryland. I believe so. I think so. Maybe i don't live in maryland maryland. No check you just bought a house around here. Okay wasn't maryland. I think somebody six seven hundred million bucks Not a bad seven hundred. Plus congrats that rich person. Yes and it was a one ticket winner. Which i'm gonna win Tomorrow night that's my plan to mega millions. So that'll be pretty cool. We'll split no. We won't yeah same numbers that we won't split over the ball hog. He'd rather win at all. And then just give you a small bonus. I think we're gonna split it. We're going to get the exact same numbers when we go to the machine. The exact already got number. So you'll have to batch yours. I already. Oh you pick your own self you know i. I haven't gotten mine yet. i'll get mine tomorrow. Anyone who picks own numbers arrested. I agree that's just that you're gonna lose. Yeah so somebody wants seven hundred plus man a one one ticket winner. What a good gig. That is Yeah pretty think about this. I don't know if you go to if he were awake last night if he was. I think that he was a gentleman. I'm not sure the whoever nobody's come forward yet. Okay well somebody one gene justice. Assuming it's a man no no. Yeah all sean have a who knows. I don't know what it is. Not gender specific. Know what it is. It's a it's a living bean breeds. Okay won the powerball. I would imagine saying. I don't ever check the numbers the night before it's usually when i wake up in the morning. So do you go to bed at night. Then can you imagine just getting up tomorrow night. I'll check the numbers. I'll be awake. Because i'll i'll be doing though i don't. I'm watching a movie. I like because. I wanted to know the more i ten fifteen during the newscast check more night. I'm one that checks it next morning or just turned on the news and all the numbers e buddy win and then i'll check the numbers. Yeah i so. Can you imagine though agenda. Just visualize wakeup call. You want some coffee or wake up call right. Sorry his or her wakeup call and they're going to get coffee. I just check the numbers. And i'll send you going okay. There's one if the numbers that one on today it's like they're all like above forty five. Forty five is my next. It's got a bunch of like a handful of single digits. So you're thinking that's drum two and three or four and then you're looking at the fifth number and you look in the powerball matches yours to what do you do. What's your what's your first. You're like i would japan but you have to double check it right because you like no way. They're right and then a third time like. Oh my gosh. I i one powerball for me on saturday morning when i wake up and win mega millions and be a billion dollar bamboo billion dollar winter. Yeah last night's numbers were forty fifty three sixty sixty eight sixty nine and the powerball twenty two going going down to the shelter. You imagine having you look at that ticket before you buy and got shot right. No shot and he had all those in a line. Well guess what at the end the one thing. If they're you know you got all the numbers. But they're jumbled you start throwing okay. There's this when you look over the third lumber but it matt and you're like oh my god i've got five them and then the powerball matches must be pretty damn good feeling just to say the least that kevin your morning coffee realizing you're the only winner mean i was. I felt that late yesterday when the news came out. That michael brantley comeback. I can't imagine yes the feeling of pay a half a billionaire. You're grateful that he's here and you're billionaire on friday night and he's a millionaire. You know what i'm saying. Yeah and you imagine the elation you will feel if it's your money as opposed to his stand so congratulations to the powerball winner. Congratulations to michael brantley. Listen here's hanna roller coaster emotions yesterday. Here's a perfect case of. Can we get it right and not be. Try to be i. Can you wait till the day. Whoever hazel may is. She's as she used to be. I think in boston she's still in boston. Is but reporter in in boston. I would take a few plays off reporting has just me. Is she the one who She was the first one. Yeah said that it was happening three year deal and then what an hour and a half later or something. She tweeted out blue. Jay bluejays official refused earlier. Tweet on on on source regarding three year deal says the team remains interested. Michael brantley but there's no deal currently employs by shot her down before that so and i thought ken rosenthal had it did he did but she was about it. Yeah she was first in the he as well. I mean like she tweeted a i in all the national people started a pile on to say yes source confirms that michael brantley is going to the to the toronto blue jays and then it was like this. Oh he's not going to the blue jays and then oh here comes mark berman saying you want to be scooped. Bitches cassettes scoop does he. He comes in and pay. Michael brantley staying with the astros for two years and thirty thirty two exact same contract. He came here on. So you know what. I'm beyond plays very affordable deal. It's a great deal. It keeps their flexibility to continue to resign or spend money in other places. And i think that this is a A massive win. 'cause the outfield today is better than it was yesterday when we assume that he was gone to worry about filling one spot and it's a win for city and it's a win for the astros. I mean you were thinking yesterday when it came out like. I said i know people make mistakes. I'm reporting the key is excuse me we're such in such a hurry. I gotta be the one that gets credit for breaking story. I prefer to be the one who gets credit for the story right. Yeah or right there. They'll be like. I mean how many times how many different stories you're going to hear about watson's going to be traded before or or he's not right. Yeah so it. And i'm not like i said i didn't know who it was. I think hazel madoff. She's still in boston but she's been she is. I think she's actually. Tbs knows that what it is. she's entered. She's been sports bra in the sports business for a while And like. I said. I don't know if it was her who's who initially it was her. I don't know who she works for. Get it right and it. Just the wave of emotions and what. I actually saw it. Come down i thought. Was this misprint. When he's when they the astros got them right when he saw wait a minute shifts fast makes you wonder how how talks. Get to a point where they stall at that. When i mean the name on the paper to he's going to sue me it i i would think that it was just bad reporting. That's my guess. It looks like she works for s. Which is the major major canadian sports. Okay sense i'm guessing is just bad reporting that somebody told her. Yeah it's because i. It'd been reported a few days before by ken rosenthal. There was a thought across the league that it was a package deal. You signed springer. You're gonna sign michael brantley and you know i. I just think that it was probably. Oh he will this source said it's happening it's happening. That's just my guess. Michael brantley is a very calculated. I doubt michael brennan went down the road that far where he was agreeing to a contract and said i'm staying. He just didn't feel like i'm michael. Brantley moved to me. Yeah what would stop that though. You know what i'm saying. Yeah i wonder where toronto and michael brown. It's a lot of wouldn't wasn't at the same amount of money. I would assume so because sixteen million bucks a year in this market. That's really good. Yeah really good no pay raise but no pay cup exactly. I really thought he was going to take a pay cut to about twelve million a year. I'm sure he kind of did too for a minute. Yeah i'm sure quite frankly. It's thirty three thirty four in may or june. I wouldn't and i don't know when the reports will come out. But i'll bet you. This is just my opinion not fact that rallies contract was probably around that twelve to thirteen million dollar a year range and all of a sudden you know where he's like. Okay probably a little pay cut. Then the text. I mean the texans. The astros come in and say well. We'll just we'll we'll give you know. Pay cut it all. Just come on in. And you know. I'm obviously paraphrasing and come on in. Let's play for the same money and you're thinking in this market. He's got to be selfish. I've been my you know. Push it and my pushing my mid thirties they comfortable. It's a ballpark. I rake in. We got a good team. I i liked the fans we can win. And i'm not taking a pay cut after a pandemic i'm in. I do know from talking to him in the last couple of years that he's kids really took two when they moved here really took to houston and they live in a place where he can go out and fish all the time so he's a happy man. What's what's not to like play baseball fish. Your kids are happy. Michael brenton cares about simple. Yeah we should all simplify our life like that. I mean janet was a that was a huge. The guy's been incredible since he's been here and it's not a huge shining light. I mean when. I say not a huge say. It's not like you just landed mike trout. But what you landed is consistent consistent. Great teammate a steady the part about the clubhouse presence that has just all these massive and then at the end is the oh by the way the guy's a hell of a player. He's been durable here since he came through. He has been durable here. Play one hundred forty eight games year. One forty six. Last year i had the had the hammy early for the most part forty six of sixty games every now and i. I remember when he came here. That i'll never forget it when i was on in cleveland. And they said well. Good luck man. You're getting a hell of a player but questions will be on the field you know. Nobody said noah ill ward other than nobody spoke. Anything all positive upbeat. Everybody loves him but man. What are you going to get one hundred twenty games out of one hundred ten you know that. The talk was extradited. Because i loved him clean. He's just always been steady. Yeah and we get a guy who he in just under one hundred fifty games in year. One when i got here. Yeah okay all gonna hit over three hundred right. And he is going to be a model teammate. He's not just every matter of fact the truth is everything. He brings to the table consistency by the. Oh by the way part is really oh by the way. Oh hell of a hit back. That we've seen that from him. And i know thrilled on dusty loves mouthpiece to meaning in the clubhouse he's one of those guys don't seem like he has to say much but he says a lot and i just i think this is a great yet These the truth is everybody has stars and you need that star to but you need that guy who you may not look. It is a superstar but everybody else around the clubhouse and on the field everybody knows other teams. I don't wanna face that guy in the clutch. And secondly is he's a superstar in the way he handles everything. You would never know it. By the way he approaches his game. But you know every single day what you're going to get out and you never have to worry about. Yeah brantley decided not to show up today. Jazz is great. Get it is a it is a great get every team needs guys like this and we got him sportstalk. Seven ninety your thoughts on michael brantley. What a what. A what a. What a win for a city. That needed it when it comes to sports sports. Talk seven hundred heavy ts here. Mc's here it's thursday. And the shawn. Watson has not been traded willy sports talk seven hundred macos junior astros. You're listening to sean salisbury. On sports talk seven nine lance mccullers out about the performance. Your home for houston astros baseball question. Just one crushing plant one question. This is the big one a big question today. On the sean salisbury. Show guys. i was thinking. I don't know if you guys saw dan patrick and yesterday i know it's a couple of days old. But about the recruiting going on his tennessee. Jeremy pruitt fired as the coach because of the and some assistance in the inside the investigation from the ant tennessee. And i believe the nc two a. and also that they let him go and part of the reason is the they were handing out mcdonald's bags full of cash to recruits. Usually that that that's on the. Here's what i've never understood. Now if you're dumb enough hand cash to a guy while he's there even though and now with this transfer portal. That's even stupid but it used to be if ingold school you hand got cash. they're blah. i'm signed. He's on your campus. And he say well. I'm gonna get him a new car like the old school days right and you try to beat the recruiting way. Keep a guy happy. And you got him recruiting job. I mean a a summer job. That really wasn't a summer job. You him cash once he had you told him and then he agreed and signed he got him and they weren't transfer because he had to sit out to one now portal sit out one day. You're playing somewhere else. So now right and you know. I think about all the recruiting stories that that i had in the buddies of mine had. I never got a bag of cash. Mcdonald's bag no never in a mcdonald's back that's disappointing. Maybe taco bell. Hey there's that that that Taco box their box for the cash like twelve. There you go so. I was thinking about this first of all one is. How crazy can you be. They walk on campus to give them mcdonalds. Banks don't don't make sure you look inside the bag right but there may be cash inside that bad boy. Right is i. Don't understand how what if the guy goes there and he's going to six other schools and he doesn't sign there and takes the cash. You just give them a bag of cash. Yeah what do you think got to say. The next school he goes to. Where's my bag of cash. And he's also going to say well. Yeah they gave me cash when i was there. Now i know you think that will cash campy tra- they'll if there's enough they'll look into it and you get caught right. But i mean you're handing guys cash and they not at your school and ain't going to let's say alabama and you're like well dude recruiting tennessee. I guess though that if you're going alabama you're not pulling on the nick sabin recruiting team gang. Hey i got this bag of cash from tennessee. Can you guys matches. I'm not talking about matching it. They're talking about. How can tennessee not be wise enough to know that you were going to say something. Yeah clearly they yes. They weren't right. There's a reason. Why do i mean i i just don't get it. It's like you're not assured the guys coming there with georgia and five other schools. That s era offered them saying they do not putting that on them. But it's like i'm sure. Tennessee is not the only one doing wrong. We all have brains. We have this kind of stuff goes right. I actually saw a commentary on this Back when hugh freeze was the head. Coach at ole miss he or one of the bagman. The guys who give the players cash. They gave a player cash and he ended up signing with mississippi state and ended up becoming the whistle blower on ole miss jeffreys fired right and they put a freeze on that and oxford. There it is. That's on you. You brought up hugh freeze at cad. Come all that but it's true. Why why do it. I mean you've got i understand. Everybody wants an advantage. But that's not an advantage and eventually come back. Get you cost jeremy. His job side from not winning enough at tennessee. He would have been back if it wasn't for recruiting by giving him another year. Leo right so i just don't you go there and i'm thinking okay if i was if this if i was offered money when i was playing emcee. Yeah that was nice. I mean i'm not. I'm not gonna you know what do stitches get stitches. Stitches tell anybody. But i understand why a guy will recruit me and then i ended up going to another school and somebody comes and ask me and you don't like that other schooling yeah. We'll have often campus. He gave me a hundred thousand dollars in cash. Mcdonald's one hundred thousand dollars cash into mcdonald's absolutely the handles maybe depending on well he'd have to come in large denominations. maybe not. That's a five hundred dollar bill. I think so. I think so. Let's say they distributed. I think they're still. They may be in part of the cash. I haven't seen one in long to discontinue. Okay there you go so if you have one hold onto it right you can go on ebay and buy them. Let's see how much they cost running. Bill those yeah. I used to have a lot of them but they don't look. You could buy a five hundred dollar bill right now on ebay for one thousand four hundred ninety nine dollars so keep it the dollar bill. Let's yeah thousand dollar. Bill is available for eighteen hundred bucks right so not a bad investment. But i just don't get what makes you think when you're sitting in your office with coach yet. Put the cash in the mcdonald's bag hopefully he'll come here if he doesn't just hope he doesn't talk. 'cause it's cash and we can't be traced. I mean what. What kind of stupidity is this. Yeah right so there's that so let me. They weren't like vinho trade. Why don't you. Here's my rowdy night. Like hey we win mode a bunch of recruits money. Well we got busted that way. Tough one right. I bet you they found out because someone opened the bag and was pissed off wasn't actually food in there. See where's my mcdonnell. Where's my. Where's why doggone nuggets team twins your tier quarter pounder with cheese is fifty grand or somebody. That not only was there. I mean they get. There was a maybe a less smaller amount of money that they wanted. But there was mc ribbon there. And here's the reason to hell. No you got rib sauce all over my damn fifty nine. What about this. What if you're on a recruiting trip there's eight recruits there that day. You know different positions and the quarterback gets fifty grand and you're the wide receiver and you only get twenty five thousand archie pissed. Yeah man what you gave him more so i. I just don't understand how it works. I know how it works. Because i was a part on the other end of things that people would offer. But it's even got its crazy. Now i know the rules are more stringent but the money still flows as the nfc. So i would ask. You is on the big one. I mean i was thinking about what would be the greatest bag to give cash to recruited. Is it mcdonald's. Burger say best fast food bagger to say any like delivering a louis vuitton bag. Now you've got to fast food. Yeah you gotta be under the radar here. Okay best how do we. How do we put this best fast. It'd be the best fast food bag to give money to do. Doug against cash to recruit. Yeah okay so. We got mcdonald's burger. Do you wanna go whataburger. Yeah i'd give it water per out. You gotta do that. One popular chick-fil-a chick-fil-a those four manned chick fil is going to be mad at this one in and out what you're gonna say don't affiliate with cash. We do not stand with handing out bags of chick-fil-a well. They're they're chicken. Sandwiches are good. Maybe better than cash. Yeah all right so now. Mickey d's what a burger and in and out fair enough fair right so there it is. What would be the best way. Just the best way to give castro recruits. What's the best bag to give castro recruits at right mcdonald's whataburger in and out and chick-fil-a who's gonna win. He and just depends burger. If you get a lot of texas votes right. Yeah in and out if the national jumps in. But it's more of a west coast. Shang lay chick-fil-a chesley isn't chick-fil-a everywhere. Yeah i mean announce. Go to chick fil. Tell me one chick fil you've ever driven by at anytime of the day. It's not an align that's wrapped around the building. It's the dumbest thing and and they don't have in and out. I don't believe yet on the east coast from here back to the west coast right. What burgers from like this part of the region towards the west coast. I think and out has started to. I know they're starting to branch out. They've got three here in. Houston i think. I haven't been there yet and i've been scared because i'm sure the lines are horrendously action. There's one i drive by one. Now on my. You know the one on fifty nine and it's never that awful hopefully by that initial. Oh my gosh gotta be there before. I've not been to a you have a c- they just opened up a open. Colorado yeah this is the furthest the furthest east exactly all right. And i'm sure. They'll continue to expand specially with southwest region the country so sports talk seven hundred. The big ones up if you were going to give a recruiter back cash. Which fast food bag would you want to put it in which is a thick. I think it isn't isn't exactly very thick. You the grease yeah all. There's greece most efficient there. That like the silver part on the inside with the white on the answer. Is it just a full. She's the white bag out some of those fast food like the silver lining inside. Yeah interesting breaking down bags. I like it. Do breaking down cash airbags inside the bag. Honey bud thank you Or you can. You can slap the bag to always down slap in the bag out to. Who does it. Sportstalk seven ninety s high fastball astros. You're listening to sean salisbury. On sports talk seven nine lance mccullers about the performance. Your home for houston astros baseball question. Just one question one question free. This is the big one was the big question of the day on the. Sean sells very show right guys. I was thinking. I don't know if you saw dan patrick. And yes data. No it's a couple of days old. But about the recruiting going on as tennessee. Jeremy pruitt fired as the coach because of the and some assistance in the inside. You know the investigation from the ant tennessee. And i believe the nc two a. Involved also that they let him go and part of the reason is the they were handing out mcdonald's bags full of cash recruits. Hey usually that that that's on the up and up. Here's what i've never understood. Now if you're dumb enough the hand cash to a guy while he's there even though with transfer portal. That's even stupid but it used to be in the old school. You hand got cash. He was there blowing. I'm tony signed. He's on your campus. And he say well. I'm going to get him a new car like the old school days right. And you try to beat the recruiting at keep a guy happy. And you got him recruiting javanese. I mean a a summer job. That really wasn't a summer job. You had cash once you told them and then he agreed and sign got him and they weren't transferring because you had to sit out too now you transfer portal one day. You're playing somewhere else sitting out right. And i think about all the all the recruiting stories that that i had in the buddies of might've had i never got a bag of cash in mcdonald's bag no never in a mcdonald's back that's disappointing maybe taco bell though hey that that taco box or box cash like twelve times go so i was thinking about this first of all one is how crazy can you be. They walk on campus to give them mcdonalds backs. We're gonna don't don't make sure you look inside the back right but there may be cash inside that bad boy. right is. I don't understand how. What if the guy goes there. And he's going to six other schools and he he doesn't sign there and takes the cash. You just gave him a bag of cash. What do you think he's gonna say to the next school. He goes to bag of cash and he's also going to say well. Yeah they gave me cash. When i was there now. I know you think that will cash campy. They'll if there's enough they'll look into it and you get caught. But i mean you're handing guys cash and they not at your school ended up going to let's say alabama and you're like well dude. Wha- recruiting trip to tennessee though that if you're going alabama you're not pulling on the nick sabin recording team. Yeah hey i got this bag. Cash from tennessee. Can you guys matthew. I'm not talking about matching it. I've talked about. How can tennessee not be wise enough to know that you were going to say something warming. Clearly they weren't right. There's a reason why do doubt. I mean i just don't get it. It's like you're not assured the guys coming there with georgia and five other schools s era offered them out saying they do not putting that on them. But it's like i'm sure. Tennessee is not the only one doing wrong and we all have brains. We this kind of stuff goes. I actually saw a documentary on this Back when hugh freeze was the head at ole miss he or one of the bagman. The guys who give the players cash. They gave a player cash and he ended up signing with mississippi state and ended up becoming the whistle blower on ole miss right freeze fired right and they put a freeze on that. Oxford is yada is. I don't know that's that's on you. You brought up hugh freeze six cad. Come at it but it's true. Why do it. I mean you i understand. Everybody wants an advantage but that that's not an advantage and eventually come back. Get your cost. Jeremy produce job signed from not winning enough at tennessee. He would have been back if it wasn't for recruiting violations. They've given him another year. Least right so i just don't you go there and i'm thinking okay if i was if i if i was offered money when i was playing. Mc yeah and that was nice you would have a. I mean i've i've been. I'm not i'm not gonna you know what do snitch get stitches stitches. I can tell anybody. But i understand. Why a will. I was recruiting me and then i ended up going into the school and somebody comes and asks me and you don't like that other school yeah. We'll have walked on campus. It gave me a hundred thousand dollars cash initiative. Mcdonald's one hundred thousand dollars cash in into mcdonald's bag so if it's the biggest handles yeah maybe depending on well he'd have to come in large denominations. Maybe not that's a five hundred dollar bill. I think so. I think so. Let's see. I don't know if they distributed i think they may be in. I don't know if they're in part of the cash i haven't seen one in st in long discontinued. Okay there you go so if you have on hold onto it right you can go on ebay and buy them. Let's see how much they cost. A two dollar. Bill is one of those. Yeah i used to have a lot of. But they don't look you can buy a five hundred dollar bill right now on ebay for one thousand four hundred ninety nine dollars so keep it. They also thousand dollar bill. Let's yeah thousand dollar bills available for eighteen hundred bucks right so not about investment. But i just don't get what makes you think when you're sitting in your office your coach so yeah put the cash in the mcdonald's bag hopefully will come here if he doesn't we'll just hope he doesn't talk because it's cash and we can't be traced i mean what. What kind of stupidity is this. Yeah all right. So there's that so let me list. They weren't like vin mohan. A money thing need so they could trade. Why don't you here's rowdy. We've been mode a bunch of recruits money got busted that way. That's a tough one right. I bet you found out because someone opened the bag and was pissed off wasn't actually food in their mind mcdonald. Where's my way doggone nuggets team by big salad twins your tier quarter pounder with cheese is fifty grand do or somebody that not only was there. I mean they get. There was a maybe a less smaller amount of money that they wanted. But there wasn't ribbon there. And here's the reason i got make ribs sauce all over my damn fifty nine one of this though. What if you're on a recruiting there's eight recruits there that day you know different positions and the quarterback gets like fifty grand and you're right receiver and you only get twenty five thousand archie pissed. Yeah you gave him more. So i just don't understand the how i know how it works because i was a part on the other end of things that people would offer. But it's even got. I mean it's crazy. Now i know the rules more stringent but the money still flows as emc. So i would ask. You is on the big one. I mean i was thinking about what would be the greatest to give cash to recruit it. Is it mcdonald's fast-food say any like you in a louis vuitton bag. Now you gotta gotta go fast food. Yeah you gotta be under the radar here. Okay best how do we. How do we put this best fast. It'd be the best fast food bag to give money to do it again. Recruit yeah okay. So we got. Mcdonald's burger burger. Yeah i'd give it an award per out. You gotta do that when you have to do. Chick-fil-a chick-fil-a we'll go with those four man. Chick fil is going to be mad at this one pair in and out what they don't affiliated with cash we do not stand with handing out bags of chick-fil-a cassie. Their chicken sounds good. but maybe better than cash. Yeah all right so now. Mickey d's what a burger and in and out faron out fair all right so there. It is what would be the best way. Oh it shall we say how would you as the best way to give cash to recruits. What's the best bag to give cash to recruits right. Mcdonald's whataburger in and out and chick-fil-a depend burger. If you get a lot of texas votes right yeah in and out if the national jumps in. but it's more of less codes. Shang laid chick-fil-a chat isn't chick-fil-a everywhere. Yeah go to chick fil a. And tell me one chick fil you've ever driven by at anytime of the day. It's not an agni a line that's wrapped around the building. It's the dumbest thing same. And they don't have in and out. I don't believe yet on the east coast from here back to the west coast right whataburger from like this part of the region towards the west coast sad thing in and out has started to. I know they're starting to branch out. They've got three here in houston. I haven't been there yet. And i've been scared because i'm sure the lines are parentally action. There's one i drive by one. Now on my. You know the one on fifty nine. It's never that awful. Yeah hopefully by that initial. Oh my gosh gotta be there before. Revives been to. They have see they just opened up a open them up in colorado. Yeah this is the furthest. I think it's the furthest east for exactly all right and i'm sure they'll continue to expand specially southwest region the country so sports. Talk seven hundred. The big ones up if you were going to give a back a cash. Which fast food bag would you want to put him. Which is the thickest think. It isn't isn't back. Yeah exactly very thick. you've gotta consider the grease. Yeah all there's grease might be one of the most efficient that like the the silver part on the inside with the white on. The answer is just full white. The white bag out some of those fast food like the silver lining inside yeah interest and breaking down bags. I like it. Do breaking down cash bags you know. What's inside the bag honey. Bun thank you Or you can. You can slap the bag to always in the bag out to does sportstalk seven ninety. And he's got a lot to say about. Sean salisbury continues on seven hundred and and Ironically the bowl question right off the bat. Mcdonald's is in last place that i it's definitely popular here. Yeah i don't. I'm not a big dominance guy. I'm a big mcdonalds. Breakfast guy am breakfast. Well what's the best fast food breakfast in the country. Fast food breakfast in the country. What is it poll question. Sports seven ninety in. We're talking about tennessee. Handed out bags of cash to recruits not even secured that. They're coming to that school yet so you know they're going to. They're going to chirp about it if they don't show up and they're gonna keep the cash okay. Is what fast food bag of cash is the best one delivered to recruits in that was mcdonald's. Mcdonald's can get greasy and he also got the full. You you've got at the bottom of the bag starts to seep through when you got it in your lap you've got to take that into account too and it's gonna seep up through my cash right my cash straight cash be clean cash cash on me all right. So what's the best breakfast fast food breakfast. In the country honestly bec- donald's is really good however wendy's came out with an amazing breakfast. There's as you've been eating water burgers live here. I have not yet the the water breakfast specifically having because i get out of here too late so they don't stop breakfast to eleven. Oh year hustle. I think it's stupid. People don't serve breakfast. I'll tell you who does and you may not like it but it serves you wanna you wanna and they have a big breakfast menu. Is jack in the box. Jack-in-the-box meat lovers burrito. yes and it's thick man. You can go get that two in the afternoon. I don't understand why burger king mcdonalds and waterberg dope serve their. You want it to kito water. Brush get into too sometimes. Craven tuxedo to happen. That's part of the what keeps. Britain keeps the sales highs. You gotta give you that window and then you you know you go and you're like okay. I better get an extra one because good two o'clock in the afternoon. Then what if. I want burger. Am get one now. He ninety go to. Maybe you can't wanna book someplace nowhere. We're on her breakfast menu right now. What am i gonna burner at anytime of the day if i to if i've ordered a burger three before four o'clock in the morning walker with cheese. I don't think i can get one at nine. Am at burger. King you gotta get that sausage croissant crisanto. Which right so you think you're going to are you more of a biscuit guy. I think i love biscuits the bist biscuit breakfast. Is that what you're saying. The best breakfast on the planet is founded. I like i mean what is put in a tortilla that that's going gonna be number one. I mean so. The water burger fast food. Breakfast is better than anybody else because tuxedo. Yeah finally butter chicken biscuit phenomenal. Get me a thing of the truth is for me. It's been but it's not fair because it's usually a hole in the wall mexican restaurant that serves me egg sausage cheese and teresa. Oh right With with hot spicy spicy hot sauce. But you don't get that type of driving through this talk about. I guess has a breakfast now. Do they used to right. They never had it. I mean what a broker is out there. There's something also to be said. I will give you this tyler. I don't know which one you like but the sausage egg and cheese mcmuffin with a hash brown on it to the hash browns. The it's the not the. It's the hash brown patty patty and he slapped that in that thing. If you're if you're like have a late night the night before decide to throw back a coal one or twelve. That's a pretty good get. That's a pretty good get but that's breakfast for me as anywhere. I can open a hole in the wall. That's not sitting down as a anything like you said a big tortilla for me. It's gotta have like theresa egg hash brown. I like the texture hash brown in the burrito sense and spicy. As hell like fresh homemade. If you can. But obviously you're in a fast food place thereto. And i'm and i'm in. I got a sprinkle cheese on to even at breakfast to be fair. Mcdonald's was doing breakfast all day and then cove it hit and in order to relieve stress on their workers. They took it off. Are you serious. I thought mcdonalds mcdonalds used to quit at ten thirty in the morning. Mcdonald's for i want to say california because their breakfast theirselves tape now. That ought to tell you that. I probably didn't go to mcdonald. I mean it didn't go to fast food very much. Because i love breakfast on that menus my favorite thing. If i'm going to that menu. I always just quit going if i wanted breakfast. When you get off it's ten forty five reliever creech past ten threats. Well you can't get mcdonald's anymore but you could no. I can't tell you how many times i've been in the mcdonald's drive-thru at about three in the morning slightly intoxicated getting their breakfast. Been the three in the mornings not eleven in the morning right so so they did. They were serving breakfast for lunch there. So could you go to get a big mac and eight. Call eight o'clock in the morning or was it the breakfast just extended throughout and he started to get the burger at ten thirty eleven o'clock. I think it was. The breakfast was just extended. He could still get the burger right thirty because the only one i know that extended it or has it all day that i know of has been jack in the box. You'd get jack in the box at ten o'clock at night. Six o'clock in the morning eight o'clock in the morning twelve o'clock two o'clock it's always did that menu all the time which i like but i didn't know cooking breakfast was a stress on workers to took cook eggs. Buffet with is that it is a a big mac. I don't br yes see. i guess. These are all news to me. Because i I don't eat we'd get out of here. I go home. i make my that time. I mean bagel my make sandwiches and bagels white kick. We are to egg white kick beat on by white suck to cook but did you just deport him the art and you got a little bit we get the little you know egg thing that you put it in the in the pan right just pours out and it's just by finance just every day okay protein and egg whites but it's such a boring. Breakfast is sucks. I put on the phone died. The hell out of it. We're the salsa. Overwhelms the egg white. Right yeah what are you gonna do all right there. So the poll questions up. A rockets guys The i like the heart and guts they played with. This is not a moral victory conversation. It's getting later. I yes it is. That's a great way to put it. Let's get laid off early and are still no. John wall still no daniel house. It will make a difference but the key. They don't have right now so when and when they do what's going to change. They are playing with more hard. I think in guts. The problem is more victories. Don't equal playoffs right. It's early but we only count the ones you played sports. Talk seven hundred. That's next bill paid very this. Is the sean salisbury. Show our number two on sports. Talk seven going to discuss here and justice. Second j. will get you here in about twenty seconds or so be patient. I is it just as simple as all at house being out. Is it that simple as to why we love the effort. Not into moral victories and we should effort should be never be an issue. I mean it was an issue with number thirteen about four games before he left at the beginning of the season. But that's not the issue that they'll play some guts and they'll battle your ass and it seems like there's a pretty decent belief in each other on the rockets but is it just justice simple with the wins and losses that john wall daniel house and having everybody available do if they played multiple games of. What eight nine guys. is it. that simple minutes. Fresh legs Your superstar A guy who a really good player and daniel house and are we concerned that this is going to be a lingering issue not the cova part but there or when we get him back as john. We're gonna be okay. I know what this is. Four games now knee wise. Yeah stephen silas said yesterday that obviously out tomorrow as well. They're playing it more cautious. Then they're they're being overly He can't really play. He could play all right I saw that. But i just wanted to do we. Is that stephen silas. Do investing candid protect his team. Yeah i think it is in the player. Got an injury right there you go then and that is it's it's it's part of the story it's it's it is getting late early like i mentioned. There's only one team lower than them in the western conference standings at the moment but i can't completely write the book on them because they play together they had all these twelve fifteen games when you start to creep around the fifteen game mark. I still wouldn't write the book on their still too soon with all these. Yeah but you start to get an idea of how they are right right. I mean like ten games. Fewer doesn't seem like a lot but it is a lot. There's no question. They can't screw around too much larger. They just need to get everybody back on. The we can give a full solid opinion on what they can be. I think on paper talent wise. They can be a handful of games away from being a quarter through the seas. I know so little jay. What's on your mind man. How you doing. It was going on on buddy mike Like i said that every time. I call you guys Pretty informative and all the question. Jane still really still really kind of in a dark about it. Because i'm wondering His injury was was what a what a killer injuries are. What was it and you talk about region. James j. j. cut out when you ask a utah. John wall's injury when he heard from the two years all of the hillary. What what what were those me. Because that's one of the knee right. This is a knee killers. Yes that's what. Kelly which is far worse than any knee injury. Trust me that takes longer. Especially with the yeah. I don't know man. i'm. I'm almost getting used to not saying about their and that's not what i want to get used to. What are you taking us to be bugged. Jane what are you gonna fight you. Yeah you like him. I don't not like fairness among. Yeah fair enough. I had another question about Okay bench warmers to man up a little while bag even if you know. That was a big warm susan. I was down in rabbit hole on amazon. Just one night looking for something to watching. Yeah that's not. The bench warmers to the original cast. No no this is how this is how bad it was. I watched it in such bad taste in my mouth. I was like well. I can't go to sleep. So i stayed up another hour and a half looking for something to watch this thing. You know at six o'clock in the morning and it's today well you didn't get any sleep suffering the rest of the day i that movie. It wasn't like a sandler's people and they know that was completely different than i think that he would have in. The original cast would have done what should be a bitch to right right so classic get. I'm looking forward. I'm looking at it. I'm like no yeah. Smells like what i know. Hopefully it'd be great if there was a bench warmers to done with the you know with with all of us original cast and and having fun and extending that. There's a better way to do and that wasn't it i. I haven't even watched when i saw it as i go. That's like a release to video movie that that wasn't one of one of sandler's group so don't even consider that. The real bench warmers too. Because that one hasn't been released yet thanks a lot for the call j. It kept him up night. Say that best supporting actor in a comedy role did what are you gonna do you. One that got snubbed. Oh you got snow cat. Let's say she. Did you win this award. Like the avian awards. Like the nickelodeon award out like i got on that time. What do you think he's. I know you've seen bench warmers. I have and i will neither confirm nor deny that. You've done that. That a best supporting actor in a comedy role. I will not be. I feel like i got snubbed. Him say i really do. I look. I went back and looked the critical performance. Yeah it was. It came as critical acclaim. You gotta use the proper verbiage for those of us. Yeah that's my favorite critical acclaim. And you gotta you got to use it. You gotta use the verbiage like you know these these over these these actors who think that the world revolves are those of us in the industry. That's another one of my favorites against. it's the industry. yeah. I want to thank the academy. I had speech prepared best. It's not got it written down to right here that it's here. I am like you said there could be a second film. And you know what. It's like godfather when you think about remakes. Godfather godfather to write to real good movies. Bench warmers abetter. Bench warmers to no man. When you get snub you carry the whole. They grow again. It's it's it's hard. Sometimes i wake up. Look at my sag card and say what happened then. There should be some hardware on that shelf. And what a what a rough you could wake up and look at a card. Those votes were in the industry. I thought it was came. I thought it came with critical acclaim. Tyler i really did. I mean i mean when when i first got hired for this job and i told my brother about it i kind of his mouth. Isn't that the dude from benchwarmer told the same thing when we started doing the show. I told my cousin she's a girl. She doesn't listen to sports radio bunch and doesn't really pay attention to sports other than the astros and she. Hey he was the guy. Bench warmers right. I'll go to football keno. Nobody ever talks about me. When i'm going to these kids coach like like like a twelve year old teaching like freshmen or fifteen year olds. Fourteen years high school that age. That knows that movie right. So i'll be camp. There's a couple of hundred. Can i have no idea. You're chargers quarterback that you're doing radio your football guy right. You're coach camp that you were a former coach or some performer player. So it'd be sitting in then you'll see kids start to look you different and somebody will ask and i got the attention span guy doing the twister. So yes that. I love but he crazy about it. He started talking a big kids. Got the attention span of about two seconds right. Yeah all of a sudden when they find that out. Oh i get the most production in the world of them one hundred kidnapped another one so i should start every camp by saying i was in that movie right now. Let's focus on football so you can pay attention. And then we'll talk about john heater in napoleon dynamite. Yeah but what. I think about the names in the movie spayed schneider sandler's movie. Reggie jackson. john. Heater sows berry. Lovett's you know what i'm saying you. You don't have a lot of really the thing here that doesn't fit. What are these things like the other. Yeah what the hell is spayed doing in this movie. What's he doing right. i mean can we. I mean baseball. Move critical yeah critical. Tell your brother not to address me as dude though. That's not how they called me that in the industry. California dudes affectionate. Yeah that's my dude. Man yeah hey dude. You're exactly right. I feel like i got snubbed. I don't care but to most people don't even know came but that wasn't the down to now. Yeah it's a straight to video so that's how you got to get the kids attention but you gotta get the attention so you really think do. Are we going to see a sharp turnaround with the wins and losses win. John and house bulk it out. Eight needs to be a sharp turn around. I don't know how sharp it will be like schedule is definitely not all year of this doesn't get i mean they're already going to be in chasing. There's no way that they're not going to be four nine. He just the schedule ahead is definitely got some match up so that you look at. The problem is that they've had these games already even with shortened team. Where that you look at it and you say oh my god. The should have wins. But they don't have wind get detroit. You got the wizards. You got portland. Portland got new orleans. Oklahoma memphis san antonio charlotte new orleans. Again they have a really nice chunk of the schedule. That is easy but a lot of them are on the road. Yeah i know know the fan. That doesn't matter so far on the road there. What if one one game. This isn't the bubble on the road where you walk across the street right. This is a bubble on the road where you got to travel. And it's different fans or not or minimal. Would have you all right. we're gonna come back at stake it out but at the bottom of the hour we're also going to discuss we'll hear from. There's a common theme here. Same page same page will hear from christian. Would and eric gordon stephen silas. And they're also here the defensive energy so if these are common themes how do you fix them. We'll discuss the bottom of the hour. We'll stick it out. Necsports dock seven hundred footing. The logic illogical former pro. John sounds bury. Continues to break it down. Seven ninety sean. Not now the cells. Stakeout steakhouse on the sean salisbury. Show sports talk seven ninety heavy. Not he'll go on concert tour when cova dance from the video gone heavy on concert tour. I had a mini concert in my car. This morning on the work you did. Yeah what were you. What were you doing. Were you beat We pricey blasting country. Actually pretty florida georgia line country. Florida georgia line was thomas. Rhett the hill that is you don't know yes. Now i gotta get you if the dog florida jordan and not all guber. Yeah uber is garth brooks country. Hell yes thank you see garth yesterday out there. I didn't watch the inauguration but i saw clips him sega. he wars jeans. Mcgurn weren't jeez. The inauguration singer exactly where jeanne osborne studying too much. I didn't catch up to it. I mean i know it came on after the watch all more impressed how bernie sanders look like. He was just there to be there. That was on the internet. That's for damn sure. They got bobbleheads. Now him if you want to get say. They're making that that. Look they look by the birdie with that. He came into the cold the package mail. It's like he came in like a drop in for this. But i got somewhere else to be saints. I saw somebody say that. Say like this is just a bypass in this. I'm gonna stop in pay my respects and then i'm gonna i got some other place that got a racket. Some air run by gotta stop by the post office and Get this you know. Go and get a few. Thanks notarized and then. I got a lunch appointment so yeah i thought that was funny So i didn't get to watch it yesterday. Was you know trying to get all the study. Or it's really when you're studying and becoming a student again. The like we study every day but when you add this to realize you know gotta start putting powerpoint presentations to get it through. Its at and number two pencils like number student against like you got to simplify your life man right now. You see the constant grind for the real estate exam too. So it's like. I'm sitting here like dude. What are you doing you got a job. you love white. I'm doing it. But i'm doing it. it's just crazy and i'm like oh gosh being a student again and it's all and it's hard core you don't organize your time and you just kinda i'll get to it and you got to cut the social media. You gotta roll right all this study and we're hitting the ground running this week so i- nance i didn't get to see yesterday. I've tried to the tv off as much as i can. Get this stuff done. 'cause too easy to be distracted on me. Yeah i know you guys filming I know you feel me Yeah heavy here in concert win. What are you in Vegas it will definitely be after covid gambling fix on so cool right suite all right so let's start to see what you got taken out Do you. i was listening to the trenches yesterday on this station. yeah Right after indian. Chris gordy and they brought up the story of. Jj watt what. He posted on twitter. Yesterday and indy was like. That's a lot. There's no way that that's right. Jj watt tweeted. Yesterday about philip rivers saw. He said i'll never forget lining up for a play and phil pointing to one of our linebackers and telling him he was lined up wrong based off the bullets. We are about to run in him being one hundred percent correct about it. One of the smartest. I've ever played against and a hell of a competitor. Do you think that. Jj watt just made up a story for twitter or that could be real as a quarterback. Did you sit there and look at it and tell a player that's wrong. Yeah i think in certain situations on alignment if you study that. And i believe in wholeheartedly guys in this league peyton. Manning could've told you how to light up a defense the new more about your defense and you didn't he wasn't in your defensive huddle during the week practice. Yeah i i i do believe it. I believe that's a true story. Suck in indy. I believe an indie believes it to. I know he didn't he didn't want bit note. He's like okay. Let me ask you this. let me ask you that. Maybe just maybe. The fish story gets bigger right. Yeah that he was joking with the defensive player but move is alignment. You know how that gets. The fish story goes from a ten pound or two four hundred thousand. Mario right but i listen. I can just tell you now. I didn't call it out but when you're studying indie knows this when he was as a defensive player. Certain guys that their alignment like maybe alignment giving him a tip or maybe you know. Call it out. You know exactly what he's supposed to do and where he's supposed to be by film study or you've seen this formation one hundred times on tape so you know what they're gonna do. Yeah and whether you call it out and say hey man. You're supposed to be there. Because i you know what i'm saying. So known what they're gonna do an calling it out to different things. Do i believe philip. Rivers new by alignment what the coverage was absolutely now how he was on standing rights. That i don't know. But i do believe because i think it happens to all of us that game plan on ever forget playing green bay to win the division that everything i studied that week it felt like showed up. It was like okay. Chuck ceases in this position. He's blitzing any blitzed and we just it was. It was one of those days. I oh my gosh. Every single thing we looked at this week and we expected happen right. That guy's air his alignments air. Here's where he's coming. He's going to take this charge. He's gonna blink. It was strange. But i imagine philip rivers one of the great mike up guys of all time saying that. The question is how deep into did he get. Was it just a memorable from coming against you or was really move over there. Because you're supposed to play this and this coverage and then actually doing it right so i made somewhere in between. Yeah but it makes for a good story That's for sure. I like it. It's a funny story. I i would. Philip rivers though yellen on the believe that for sure. Listen i'm just going to go with yards along. We'll get to the rest of it later. We we're going to compare the numbers hall of famer. Drew brees a hall of famer without a doubt as we sit here. Eighty thousand three hundred fifty eight yards. Yeah tom brady. No doubt seventy nine to four peyton manning. So think about this. As good as manning's been and was drew brees got thousand more yards than he. Does it probably manning to lose at season right. Yeah at four forty five hundred to five last season. He misses games too. Far at seventy one thousand. You know who's fifth marina phil. Philip rivers feel very expensive. St three thousand four hundred forty yards. So are all those guys in front of. Mahala favors okay. Marino's him hall of famer Ben roethlisberger hall of famer. he's next. Eli manning's going to super bowl rings. And he's got fifty seven thousand. He's going to be in the hall of fame matt ryan than elway. Rogers moon tarkenton. You get down to fourteen and carson palmer and then fifteen and vinny testaverde. You're not gonna make their in four high forties and then you look at durability and the rest of it going on yes he is. He's just not going to be a first hall of famer so all the he's not he is dan. I disagree with the end yesterday. I mean we're getting into it because we need to give to the shawn watson but it's not all these guys playing the same ever weren't the best so are we going to say was drew brees. The best quarterback his era. No tom brady is right. Yeah there may have been a year where drew as rivers had some years where he might he was about the best. I did you dominate. Your era is the way. I look at issue. Is he'd never got to battle. Afc championship game was deep. That'll be the but you know what's going on as we said yes or override the fact that people. Yeah that's exactly right now. He's so respected in high regard. If you're on the bubble you're going vote for him. He's getting him hall of fame. It's just not going to be on the first ballot and quite frankly if tara loans didn't get it on the first ballot i he wasn't lying because the media had this perception of him. Or what have you spoken at five. Deserve to be in on the first ballot. He's one of the top five six eight receivers of all time four. You're not putting him out of the top ten right exactly deserve to begin. But what important came into account some people. He was on a couple different council. Y right live giving you the while you to give you the reasons why he should have been in on the first ballot. Yeah i can give you reasons why philip rivers could be. But he's not going to be on. The i give you more reasons why he's not going to be on a first ballot. That is why he is. But i can give you more reasons why you should be in the hall of fame than he should overall all right heavy t which he got so yesterday. The pac twelve made the announcement. That larry scott is out after eleven years as pac twelve. Commissioner mike question is two things number one recruits. Go back there now that he's gone and number two. What should they look for in a replacement. just wait till my master's is finished. Can we can. I hold off. And i'll just go do it. I mean i know the pac twelve. I'm kidding number one is. I don't like to wish anybody to lose their job. Larry scott was not a good commissioner and he got worse as the years went on. And i will tell you this of the power five conference commissioners find me some. Find somebody who did a listen i. I know it's a hard job. But if we're judging by the other five power conference commissioners would you put him in the top five. I wouldn't put him in the top five even if we brought conferences okay. I'm just telling you he's it was time. And you make a great point tyler. You out there california. You know how people judge a guy by yourself but also by the performance and also by the way people feel about. There's not a whole lot of people to fill. The scott was doing the things the right way fair and He was a follower because he did not. He waited until all the other. Confrontation larry scott was never out in front of anything when it came to it now like i said i wish him well. It's not personal. I don't i don't want any. I don't like seeing people lose their job. It was a good run and a high price drawn. He made good money. Yes people now will look at the pac twelve different if they get a guy and what i'm looking for like i'm looking for in a coach and quarterback leader amid not afraid to be to be criticized for doing the right thing or to take chances the right way and to make the conference relevant again. That's his job. We'll see if it can happen leadership he didn't have it and you hit the perfect point. Listen i don't need my guy to wait until the sec makes decision. I'd prefer him to step out and be okay with making the decision himself once in a while right. It's okay to do. It's okay to be the pioneer. The problem was he. He never wanted to pave the road himself. You wanted somebody else to pave the dirt road and they'd get on the clean smooth surface. Unfortunately even then he was average at what he did especially as it went on larry. 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Why soften board if you want it. Is it going to piss me off. That means just from a player that you and i talked about earlier saying that he that he thinks. Show lots of forcing trade. Oh yeah can we say that. Yeah let's date for the top of the hour. One to eight o'clock yep current. Nfl player wants to sean to force a trade to somewhere that he might go play. Well i would be willing to bet you that. That's where he's gonna end up and we will discuss at the top of the hour. I was thinking. Did one of the texans come out and say because we knew we already discussed that one. So we'll talk about that at eight o'clock watson and what other players in the league in we've heard reggie bush talked about get out all these guys saying what they're saying it's amazing how players view will differ from fans in that that local town right. It's crazy it is absolutely crazy and people across the country or putting together packages as fans and radio shows and hot take shows about what it's going to take an odds wwe shawn watson playing next year so all the stuff that exhaustion mentally grinds on you but we got rockets. Talk egg me. Because i was just thinking about this and i was thinking about last night and i'm glad i remember to say it. I had made note of it. Are you less apt to pay attention to people on twitter. That don't have a facebook. Don't have a twitter profile pic. I don't pay you mean like responding to or if they post something you don't read it as well you know what i'm saying. Yes here's the banker. Put something up. it'd be read you feel. It's a real person when somebody even though even though you'll look they may have. They may have four hundred tweets on. They're just saying. I'm less apt to pay any attention or follow somebody who's got a blank space in their twitter profile. I almost feel like it's bought even though it may not be great. If you don't put a profile. I probably follow some being kind and following. Somebody said something. I definitely know of one that i followed because i met the person but they just never have picture of there. There's a lot of them liked. My point is at least initially. My first thought is if you can't put a picture up. I can't trust your tweet. That's usually what i think is your account right. That's exactly right so you agree with me. What about you have you. I won't pay attention to you if you have no picture or if you have a weird user name i won't pay attention to you right like eight different digits after it. Not even that if you have a username but it has five or six different Dashers or underscores. I won't pay attention to it. And also when i see a what do they call that picture. They call it the What's it called when somebody has a a picture of like a robot. what do they call it. The caught your Bod no it's called the your blank when it's a picture your profile pitch say again advertise thank you. That's what i met. That's what i. That's the word i was looking for now. Your if it's an avatar. I probably a little less apt to pay attention. I got buddies. I do yeah. But i said a little less apt idea. It's not all encompassing. But i wonder if people thought feel the same way to. I'm less take you serious. Pay attention to you. If you asked me a question i try to get. It may be one that. I don't answer as quickly right. Yeah absolutely. it's just it's just it's weird and why you wouldn't put a i don't know why don't want to get to stand why you wouldn't want your kids up. I just even if you put a picture of your favorite player up or or a quote fine. But i'm a little less apt to the i've wondered how the people felt. That probably would make for a good question. Maybe we'll say that for a poll question down the road. I wonder how the national world fields no picture no reaction but some. Just don't wanna do that. Because i have a couple of like you know the person. There's don't put it in there but for the most part i don't pay attention. I eric gordon and stephen silence christian. Would victor oladipo latte to say rockets. Lose two sons and by the way guys and and to take it down. Can you believe it's been a year since kobe. Bryant passed away today understand a year after the nba stars. The article that front page the usa. Today remember last year radio. Roller discussing it. People were young like shocked. And oh my gosh right. So i have a buddy who worked at tmz at the time and he told me we're releasing this right now. You need to check this out. And it was a picture saying kobe. Bryant was dead and a helicopter crash. And i showed my dad and we said no. It's impossible ten minutes later. Every news station in america picked it up. And that's when we knew israel. I it was. It was weird eerie very sad too many lives lost and the well people are never going to get over. But i i. It's just hard to believe. The impact dude made is phenomenal. And we know that matter of fact impact may have been even bigger off the court than it was on it that saints and he was headed towards that type of life to impact the audience Millions i'm sure but with his life where his the trajectory that you know where he was on with what he was doing was was life changing for a lot of people and he's missed know that but it's been a year crazy a year it is. It's absolutely mind boggling. It's been a year. Yeah unreal and then think about what's happened since the whole year just didn't start out. Well right yeah. Cova talk the kobe bryant lost in the colored kicks in all these sports. Think about twenty twenty just for the most part for a lot of people. I mean we're still alive and healthy but for the most it sucked all the way around for a lot of terrible. It was and it started like that in january. All right the rockets guys. We obviously there haven't been fully healthy or had everybody there all year. Long lose another game guts. I didn't say effort. they're better. Gimme effort it's guts but there there's this growing sense of the energy on defense consistently is being on the same page which you understand with a new offense and new coach that that's going to take a minute but we can't keep saying forty games and it's going to take a minute right so it's gotta start to flow erik. Gordon was discussing about. Sometimes things got to be easier than they are but sometimes they make it look harder or make it harder than it should be so we do by williamsburg's but that's part of the game was games game for the runs and You know we gotta figure out ways where we can be very disruptive on defense offense lee we gotta get where we can just get going and flown Every time donna. Four which is not getting all the shots and everything that we really want We make the game So much harder than what it should be and until we figure out until we understand to play winning basketball it starts with defense and and when it starts defense it creates easier looks on office and we. We just gotta understand that. And here's what he said little more about that defensive energy what creates good energy all the time is defensively as only way you're gonna create better energy throughout the game because if you have if you if you create a good defensive energy you don't have to run place you can. If somebody's going to be opened you gotta play for one another. We do have good guys on his team. We do have guys. I'll listen and And so we just gotta learn to drive into play for one but only way would be on the defense of yeah and is there a theme when it comes to on the same page christian would who continues to play good basketball Talking about the in on the same page as well we just have to get on the same page and way for everybody to get back. Kind of We still haven't played with everybody and we're a bunch of games and so we just gotta wait. Hopefully everybody stays healthy. Gets right guys when we come back. I don't wanna get your guy's opinion. I want to discuss this. I don't understand listen. I understand offensive side of basketball. I'm talking about not just here but anywhere in basketball specifically because in baseball. Sometimes you don't play good defense. Y ground ball goes to your legs bad mechanics. What have you. It carries over football out scheme you. I'm just trying to figure out. When i hear the defensively more energy and effort i i've never understood it. I'm gonna tell you this of all the sports the easiest thing to do in sports. That doesn't mean you're gonna stop somebody because the other guy's getting paid to. I want to discuss vote to focus on defense. Why in the world. I'm going to tell you what it doesn't take a lot of skill to play defense. It does not. You gotta be athletic. Don't miss i know these guys out there on the floor. It doesn't take a lot of skill. it's the easiest thing to teach in sports is. I'm telling you in that sport. We'll discuss when we get back. And i don't get when i hear more defensive energy wide. Is this here in anywhere else. We'll talk about it. Sportstalk seven ninety. Back to sean salisbury. Show on sports. Talk seven ninety. Use your asteroids your rockets your voice. Now what are you going to do with your saturday this week. No football about that and we're down to two weekends of football left. I guess i'll just have to wait for baseball and dream of days of spring. Call certapro paint your house to eat certapro certapro painters we finished. I am gonna need some rooms. Pain at some point certapro painters dot com sort of protocol on broke at the mall. Serta with c. Certa is where. I really need the powerball winnings maybe be right answer pro right instead. It's called tomorrow's that instead of instead of the diy deal. Yeah right exactly yeah. It's what the c. You know that the with c. Thank you so you're saturday. It'd be a little different this week and for well for a while. Now this is our last weekend with two more than one game on sunday and then we will get so. We don't have a pro bowl this year. Dan yorke bummer. Anybody cares about a pro bowl other than the guy gets selected gets paid and gets it on his resume for that and those of us who never been to one would've loved to go to one but in being one but i don't think many people watch it anymore. Let's just put it that way. And then i don't think we're going to miss it this year but congrats to those who got elected. That's awesome because they aren't so at the top of the hour. We'll talk about the shawn watson well players across the league and one in particular saying what happens in very few are saying stay people that are talking saying do everything you can to get out of houston so the question is when will we hear from him telling us he wants out of houston or that he wants in. That's when all was asked on twitter. This morning wayne is all this end. I think it was dream apple on twitter. Now i'll tell you what it all is when they game. That will probably or window. Sean all sean has to say the stay all into welsh took to get rid of all the talk. You're not getting traded if he wants to stay under contract but we want him happy if he comes on. I'm not going anywhere. This is my team. Then it'll be it'll be done but as long as nobody's has long as we don't know from him then this is going to be talked about here and across the country. I made the point before. And i'm frustrated with this part not just here though when i hear this. Yes playing defense in the nba hard. Why because you try to cover lebron james who's fast new bigger and stronger. Neil can get get to the rim. Okay i i. I understand that picks and people offensive to get all that that's white team score one hundred and eighteen hundred. That's why they score because the other guys get paid doing really good offense player. My frustration comes with. There's a lot of skill that goes into putting the ball in the basket. Yeah there's not. A lot of skill appears all the best athletes in the world. Play basketball. I'm not. I'm not diminishing that. I validate that no question. But if the matchups even i continue to hear about defensive and you why won't guys play defense. They feel like it's not rewarding enough. What will moving your go through the motions. But if i see the mentioned it's hard. And i have discussed this. If i see a guy who could do all those things with his handle at his feet man get his shot. Even use those things for defend. Yes that's my point. Yeah now i understand. Listen if you've got to put a six one on a mismatch on a pick and roll and you play switch defense and all of a sudden you get the low block and anthony davis scott. You drew you and your six to mismatch and unfortunate defensive in a switch and you drew the short straw. Okay i get. It doesn't mean you're still not going to do everything you can't keep them from putting the ball in the basket easily right. So yes. If i've never been to me. It seems that i played basketball throughout was recruited. My point is. I'm not just speaking from. I haven't on the court all you guys have played. High-school bet doesn't matter if you didn't play pro you know the effort it took high school or college or whatever level you played to me. There's no sport where it just requires effort more than taliban defense on a basketball court. Yes can you scheme. And if it's man and pick people in all yes a little more difficult to scheme against zone unless you have shooters rider big man you can get into creases in passing lanes. I know that. But i'm always so frustrated when here. We've got to have more defensive energy. I i've never understood it. I have gained thirty one thing. But it's like when you play a game and if you win one forty to one thirty eight you one. You'll take it but when you when you walk off the court archie like mike. I hit me for thirty eight. When does that frustration come in. I've never understood you would. I don't think it does in this in this generation. Really don't so valdez is it more. It's definitely more effort. Pay attention to detail than than talent on the team's got the i think this team once they get to full strength here now. They're going to be. They will like have a they're gonna grind on their defense because wallin deep good defenders. They care about it. Say it again they care about it saint wartime daycare mountain. Thank you that's like a team like this is going to have pulled. Listen to the effort defense. Like how. Yes and energy i i understand. Sometimes you're more tired just like you are when you get up in the morning or i am like i get it and it takes more effort and sometimes you just get the l. man. Would you go up against the best player in the world. Your garden harden or jaanus and. He's taking that big ass body down the low block and you're just it's one of those nights for listening you may have given all the energy defensively you got and you need some help and the dudes just having well an mvp night which has a lot of nights. Yeah but it still doesn't mean i can't the energy and play defense and i just and eric gordon is right and we hear this a lot from players and coaches when you're got you don't want spurns great offense side from great players. Great defense leads to transition points leads to some that. They've been really bad at times. This year. mean they're they're not and i think it takes chemistry to get out and transitions the dirt. Trade jesuit. Say they're trans -sition defense. This year overall has been horrible. And why and. I've always believed teams. Now this is a little different than the past teams right. There were three point. That little divvy i lived if they still the analytics. Good but if you're a three point shooting team you should never be bad at trinity. Damn right because why you got three dude. Standing out at the perimeter right get your ass back and play defense his. We're looking at box scores. Only thirty one three point. A ten plus died twenty less by now. It's it's nuts. That's my point year today that stevenson starting to add to put his stamp what they're trying to score points right. Yeah so and they were scoring points. But we don't have to score them exclusively from the right but in the pet. There's no there's no excuse. If you're and three point shooting team like gold saints you should be able to play transition consensus correct unless you're a five guys to the glass but you have a plan when you're a three point shooting team right so we will continue. I'm curious about you guys at only few high school your big college fan. Even if you're a coach listening seven one. Three two two five seven nine. We're we'll get to it again this hour. We're gonna talk. Richard sherman and to shawn watson. Next why do i say richard sherman. Well you'll hear why next but defense the again as mc validated what. I'm trying to get to. Is you care. Carrying on. Defense is far more important than talent in the nba. It just is and if you don't care you ain't gonna wind many. It's important defensive. Energy sportstalk seven ninety. richard sherman. Does he want to shawn watching to stay here. And and be a texan. We'll discuss necsports talk. Seven ninety nabil quarterback. Joe blow time french very this. Is the sean salisbury shell. We've got some unbelievable astros breaking news breaking news. They've made another addition according to ken. Rosenthal jake kaplan of athletic addition a new addition. An addition right. You don't have you ever heard the news. i have a former first round. Pick of the ashes returning. It was rumored weeks ago. And nothing happened jayson. Castro catcher is returning to the astros on a one year deal going to be a nice solid backup option. To of course martine maldonado going to be a one to do blatty righty. I think this is a great addition to the baseball day. And now we got castro. What's up with you guys. Taking old angels catchers. They asked drafted him. In the first round was more. Recently he was an all star with the astros and twenty four say maldonado. We traded him tyler. Let me ask you this. You guys got stacey tyler. What's up with you. Guys never went into division championship. We're we're gonna use names. I love castro coming back to the astros. You come to hear from the angels. He came here for the padres that was his last team. Angels challenges last the padres angel always at angel is what you're saying. Is that right. Yeah we still take in jose that sort to call him. Jose guizhen okay. that's how i like to pronounce. People are going to be freaking out about it. Because that's what people do jayson castro. It's a platoon situation last year. They had dustin garner the backup catcher. Guess what the astros backup. Catcher position this year with jason castro has just improved by a million times. What it was how many tweets will be. Why did we get this guy out there. I'm putting our website right now. And i'll put the facebook page will send it out. You know it'd be it'd be like why why why they need a backup catcher. It's called depth. Yeah absolutely. He's a very solid platoon. Because you can't martine maldonado catch. He ended up catching more games than anybody in the baseball last year. Six games catches one hundred and fifty five games. Old right and squat and all that time starts to have now is thirty. Four thirty five in august and last year he caught forty seven of the sixty games and then caught every game and posted. That's on every game but one plus a lot of catching. yeah. I like to call him malto. Sometimes nobody's saying nobody calls say nobody calls about. Nobody calls them bills. How do call him. Martine or do you think calling machete clubhouse murrieta. You'd think so. You get the machete. And castro think jason castro nickname or he does it says here on his baseball reputations. Just stroh stroh chetta strom chat day. We'll take it day captured in elect last year. Twenty seven games eighty bats at one eighty eight there about the angels but who is right Heavy you're claiming him by the way played eighteen games. The angel's angel was here for six years. Also claim choi hawkins. Just say so. Nine million other team just say only pitched for forty teams and there's not forty teams in baseball. If you count it is minor league teams would have made. Forty hoops just probably. I didn't realize he was twenty one years in the league. Oh yeah durbale. He's pitched. I mean there's more than he hasn't pitched for me. I mean there's more than he has pitched he's pitched for more teams that that's exactly right. Thank you heavy t. Nobody pitcher more teams. Though i think octavio kotel i'll tell you what jamie moyer had a few right be. More was fifty when he retired white for long. I don't think he pitched media. Seattle call philly. It just seems like neighboring giants briefly. I want to say cleveland. State seven teams seven franchise. I'm gonna say like four or five all right but he pitched leaders like digger fell while actually i was way off. I said wait more one. Two three four five six seven eight. Okay seattle for eleven years philly for five cubs for three baltimore for three rangers for two rockies for karnal for one red sox i can guarantee i got around his in twenty twelve forty nine forty nine years old pitch in the big leagues digger. Phelps son-in-law belief you they believe minor. Afc south. And i believe he. I believe he. Is you check that out. I believe he is and now. I'm assuming there's if they're still married. I think he's married to digger's daughter i think so. How many troy hawkins teams letroy had has to be happy. I think get twenty. There's no way hit. Twenty four octavia detail holds the record for most teams fish for hawkins has to be in the in. The double. Digits has to be has to be real quick minor. Afc south thirteen hundred hotel. Okay that's the record. Trent bulky and the new jaguars general manager that was coming down. That's interesting because the last college coach he worked with. They couldn't get along. So i'm kind of intrigued by that. Which was jim harbaugh. That's exactly so by. The way was eleven was eleven. Okay cool so was double digit. Sago size are going to work with urban. Meyer jacksonville. that'll be interesting. You know what it sounds gonna work. Yes sir no sir yes sir. What would you like. Mr mayer coach. That's how it's going to work. That's exactly how it's gonna work and you go from a guy couldn't beat urban meyer to the guy who beat couldn't beat urban meyer. Jim harbaugh to the guy constantly. Beat your former coach. It'll be interesting to see but got the job jacksonville's trying to build some all right. Speaking of new coaching jobs robert solace in new york. Yes a guy who's in love with his the way he leads and coaches is really chairman. Richard sherman's in san francisco a pretty close in with the san francisco situation. There's really big talk that richard sherman's contrary he's going to be a. He's admitted he's come on and set throughout the season. I just don't i love. San francisco loved the organization of the people. I just don't see how they can keep me just being honest transparent just saying i just i love it but i don't see it so robert solid going and he's khan said he's a great leader of men. Somebody should hire him him. And he's got a job. And there's no bigger endorser outside a coaches. The coaches are people in kyle shanahan. Richard sherman loves him in a lot of people like robert sala but in the course of endorsing and loving robert solid. There's a really good chance of as a free agent. Richard sherman is gonna end up when this happens all of a sudden done with robert solid new york so richard sherman said what about to shawn watson situation. He said he was the what the Podcast with chris. Collins worked for pro football focus and said i get out of there as quickly as possible. Talking about houston. I'd head to new york. And he was referring to the jets and because robert solid the coach and he loves him yes and also the jets do have a lot of cap space cap space and draft capital because they have the picture from the seahawks for the next two this year next year and guess what a veteran coach likes on his team. I mean a new coach likes with young players as what i met veterans veteran that he does yes that we see. This happen all the time. He's taking him with him that you. Yeah if richard sherman's up somewhere if he leaves san francisco which apparently he's going to casale just pay him a little morning knows that and and a veteran who's a very smart football player engand great leader and people respond to and richard sherman. Not only do kinda be a coach on the field while you're starting to corner. Richard sherman may have lost a step speed-wise but he's still scheme wise and understanding how to beat guys to the punch because he's a step ahead because he's usually smarter than everybody else. He's playing against more well prepared but with that in mind. If you're a robert solid don't you want guy that can help young guys and say. Hey here's how we're going to do things here right. Yeah the scame verbiage. All those things. And i get to see. And that's a way for richard sherman l. without like tampering. Or any of those to recruit again there. That's right to say he has no trade causing he can dictate. Obviously it's exactly right. The question is what a jets team be willing to part with four ones to to sam darnold honestly for them. Yeah player they have a lot of holes if required four first round picks. They could do it to your spanish team. That would realistically should be all over all at the hosts and cleveland. Yesterday they were talking about the sean and all this talk. It was a final question. Asked bull in the fox and and Bull said about this. And i told him about just like we always say it's ridiculous and little bit but it would take a halt and we're talking about what steve palolo told us about. I said four. I in san darley said no. I wouldn't trade adviser texans and from cleveland. he said sharon. Why wouldn't trade seven first rounders if you're the forty niners or like miami teams with assets. Who are on the verge of winning right. Yeah why wouldn't you take the guy that you know can win for. You still got good players even if you gave up. Draft picks forty niners still got a great roster when they're healthy if they give graphics and you've got a quarterback who you're trying to draft. It's going to be the next year. So who's gonna let me ask. This didn't make more impact. The draft picks over the next ten years in san francisco or miami. The quarterback quarterback sure he is but those draft picks can make a massive question. If you do it right. Yeah my point is. Would you rather have four one that. You're wondering about or a hall of fame quarterback for once. Hoffman hall quarterback handwrite question. Now those are both could. Here's a here's the novel concept in stuff like this bowl teams could win if you trade a guy right hell. Let's just say for instance you trade into the forty niners. Are they not the number one. Are they not either one or two seed in the nfc next year. Going in if the shawn watson. Your quarterback healthy fred warner. George kittle their roster selfie. They're they're they're like a going in and they're going to be one of the favorites. The super bowl right. Okay then you reverse it here and say we'll get four one's a starter and jimmy garoppolo turns out. To be a thirty touchdown ten interception twelve interception guy and those four first round picks over the next couple of years ended up being three pro bowlers and starter. So you both can win but in my mind. Yes they got the better. That's exactly right of anything. You're getting quantum. What position if it's not a quarterback he's not gonna impact as much that guy does. Yeah as long as dish like from the texas standpoint then you'd be sitting there in a few years with four first round picks the decisions on pay. And you couldn't. You wouldn't be able to pay all eventually. that would break up to. Yeah they all come in and they're not all coming together because nobody has four first-round billion a year of each other. Yeah right exactly nick. Hang on we'll come back. Take a break here and discuss this to shawn watson stuff defense. Castro's here now as is michael brantley which is good. who's next. who's the center. Fielder gonna be discussion throughout. 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Talk seven nine hundred ninety palm for your home teams all right sports. Talk seven ninety hour number. Three you've been waiting appreciate your heavy. Tmc here welcome in matt. How are you nick. Nick nick nick. I don't. I don't think nick is there any nick. Nicholas your mother is on the phone. The nick fall asleep. And he's got mic nick nick. Nick i on sonic doesn't wanna talk. That's okay stagefright. What do you think people do when they and they're not what do you think. Do people call in fall asleep pursued guy who called in to. I think matt thomas. Yesterday it was in the middle of a drive through order. One matt goddamn. Tom was hilarious. That has consistently had the worst phone callers for ten years my favorite. It's an awesome. My favorite we love you guys even if you're bat caller when they call in some of them and they put you on. Hold that could you hold on. Can you wait a second. Hold on number three. Oh i love our callers with those are the classic ones. Yeah hey sean you're on the air. Could you hold on a second. How coffee okay. we'll know. don't worry about us. We got you as nick there. Nick oh by the way there's a there's little other nugget that's come out on jayson castro. According to channel rome it's not a one year deal. It's actually a two year deal. There you go to nearby change that okay a nickel you there. Yeah yeah sorry about that is this. Is this the first time that that the texans management has ever been like taking the task like you know. I know it feels like when when the sean signs deal. You know. o'brien with the coach. And i guess you know that was playoffs. I guess they can win. Right this on contract. And then you know they. They fired bill In the meantime they. They traded hopkins. After the sean signed his contract there was traded hopkins was traded. He was traded in the with three years to go on the current contract that he had. But sean did not sign his his big monster deal traded shaan scientists monster deal under bill. O'brien gm watch this. Did he signed it. What was the exact month. Was it during the fall. Like september october. Is that what. It was the september or august when to shot side september september early in the season so questionable it went. So what are you asking. I guess it's just. I is this the first time to texas management and or an ownership you know has really been taking the top. Everybody's been complaining about them for the last ten years but actually having like their star player you know. Hey i want out. And i think you know when when andre johnson said that thing detection texans management kills careers or whatever he said. I mean i think the sean to seize like easterby. Still there i you know. Part of me thinks dishonest. Page himself in the corner other part is like dry right like nothing has changed around here. Unless the sean or people like sean you know is doing what he's doing and it just feel like nobody. You know the the texans have a two hundred million dollar chip. And i totally see them. Just giving that away all. I hope i'm wrong. Yeah nick. I'm with thanks for the call. You're right i i. There's part the sean hasn't painted himself in a corner yet. And here's why he hasn't come out and said i want traded now how deep corner it is is it is it. Ntr you paint yourself into a major corner or is an easy way out if you come out and say i want traded that it can be salvaged here. They don't know yet when you're that good a player people want you regardless so. He hasn't painted himself into corner yet. I think people are a little frustrated by not knowing where he stands other than hearing from others. And i get that. If you're a fan or a coach or the front office i get that. But also get where he's coming from and you're right nick of. Is it ever going to. If i if i stay here in my going to be stuck in is going to be the crap we're going to have to deal with whether it's the distrust. You may have you if you if you don't trust easterby if you don't like cal if they're not gonna make a commitment to winning are they gonna spend who they're going to get. Are they going to give away. My players are they not. What are they all those things that go with. It's obviously not the money because he got that so it's all the other stuff normally were fans would get a little mad at the well. How much money does a guy want. They go forward he does. He need forty five. That's we would say. Well he's got his money so this is obviously not about cash. This is about all the other stuff going on. So you're right and it's kind of both ways. I don't think i think put it this way. i think. The franchises painted themselves into a worse. Corner into sean has by not saying anything. And and who holds the cards while he's under contract and can you withstand holding out if you had to come to camp like this in a line in the sand and play or not play miss forty million dollars. That would be hard to do but the other side of it is then you get to the point that if he's disgruntled really is never going to show up. What are you going to get for him if you say well. We have to. Because he's not happy here and players are not gonna wanna come here or stay here. So that's that's part of the deal. Nick you hit both sides. But i'm on his side the frustration he feel and i am on the certain side where some fans and media fan. Just tell us. come out either. Validate you want out or say you want in. I think that there's nothing worse than being in that. That area of space that you don't your feet on the ground meaning us. Not that he has to answer us but kind of knowing what somebody says. Want something then. Let's find out how to fix it but obviously something needs fixed or we wouldn't be in this position talking about it. It'd be a non story. We'd say we got one of the great players in the league signed for five years and then we're good to go so that would be the issue cory. What's going on man how you doing corey. Yes sir you're on the air my friend all right. I got a three team. Trade scenario wonder run by all right before you say this. Do you want this to happen or not. But i i wouldn't mind it. Because i think it would set aside for future with the draft capital when everything and it would be between the texas carolina and the jets a three way as a three team. Trade ever happened in the nfl. Or i'm sure question. I don't know who would be but i'm sure it has. That seems like a baseball or nba thing for sure right more and more nba than anything. Right yeah more. I don't know. But i would imagine at some point. All right so go and give me your trade. So the jets would receive shawn watson returned carolina with the number two pick and the texans would receive carolina's number eight pick this year. The jets number twenty three pick this year. The jets first round here for next year. The second rounder from the jets this year in a second rounder for carolina. next year. which will give you two first rounders in two second rounders in the next two drafts. And you're gonna give me mccaffrey as well. Oh sorry and and sam darnold. We'll give you a package that you could flip for another draft pick. Eventually i don't think the carolina will give mccaffrey in this deal. Would you give a okay. You're the gm. Would you rather have mccaffrey or watson. Got watson go onto the jets. What would you rather have. Well i'd rather keep the sean. But if he's not happy to be here requested trade then you this year. You could pick up a quarterback with your eight take and pick up. Somebody like like you say you're going to want to twos sam darnold. Don't get the quarterback this year letting slip play out darnold and see if you're going to get an asset forum later or see if he can be better here under a new coach like eric b enemy to one zero to twos and then take care of your business. Well you could take quarterback with the eighth pick. Like zack wilson. Back wilson didn't pick up like a nause harris or the running back out of clemson and then you have to young potential storms on the offensive side to second rounders and then next year. You've got two first rounders to fix what you need. That is being a rebuilding mode turnaround. And just start. Zack wilson from the start. Like you do. A lot of these rookies and turn around and remove sam donald for a second round. Pick somewhere else like to new orleans or somebody else or indianapolis type of thing or washington later on right or the san francisco forty niners. Who may move on from jimmy. I'd prefer to keep watson just like you would corey make sense. May we're talking making sense. I would somewhere in that package years. If you're not gonna give me mccaffrey in that deal. Then i would say that making way include another first rounder to hike it to three two second round three. I two seconds and sam darnold. I think i'm a little bit more now. The question is is anybody gonna wanna part with all that for their franchise. Little who at least there's just a lot of no watson's going to watson's watson's go to the jets whose carolinas carolina is getting. The carolina is getting picked for number two pick from the jets. They're moving back then again. The number two in the eighth pick is coming to hear another pick from the jets. The later pick the twenty picks come back to houston three ones and two twos and sam darnold. At least we're listening. But yeah so so you would get you would get the eighth pick this year. The twenty third pick this year the jets first round next year which should be going right. And you get the jack and second rounders this year and you get carolina. Second rounder next year which give you four. Picks in the first two rounds of the next to drive. There's a real good chance without the shawn watson regardless who it is the you're going to be picking the top five picks more than likely next year and twenty twenty two. So you'd get to and the jets even with the shawn watson. i don't want to trade. Him should finish that they're still not going to have a roster good enough to compete in the east so you may get to more very very high. I fix next. Make sense if you if that if it came to that. That's something if it was if fixable or something you have to listen to corey. I like your thought process man. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it interesting right. Let's come back we'll discuss. There's more obviously the deshaun watson. Talk people now trying to piece together. What if and we got a piece together what if speculations happening and we don't know i don't even like to discuss it but i like when our callers are thinking like that sports talk seven hundred marshawn sounds on sports. Talk seven hundred where astros at rockets play and real. Texans talk. won't sports talk. Seven ninety guy jason poetry. So i enjoy the banter. What does that. What does that gets some going on here. There you go. Your headphones was to hit the guy j. I don't even know who that was a guy. Jason poitras who good pretty well thought out on twitter but he says i don't understand how you think the texans are getting that much value watson controls the whole situation teams don't have to outbid each at all they have to do is satisfy watson texas can trade for his across or calls bluff jason. You're wrong on this. One hundred percent wrong man watson doesn't control the whole situation emma watson side this whole situation for the most part ninety nine percent of that. I wish that he'd come out and say what he wanted publicly. he didn't have to. It'd be nice. But i'm on his side but you're wrong. I don't know when we got caught up into this thinking they want. A guy is under contract at forty million. If it came to the point. I'm just telling you if i was the gm or the owner and it came to the point where we were battling you were offering me a first round a second round her in a player or two ones in a number two and a player and it came to the point where who was a battle in and and that we felt like we were giving him away yes. I'm calling bluff. Yes i am not giving him away. You can't like me. You may say you can't understand all the people i talked to in the know in this business we had one yesterday. Four first rounders. And sam wouldn't take wouldn't trade it. The i mean if they do. It's not because watching held. The cards is because the texans are frigging stupid and the front office has died their french fries short of a happy meal. That's what it will be if you allow. Listen i'm on watson side but when you allow the player to dictate where he goes when he has no trade clause yes he can say you cannot trade me to the jets. If he doesn't want to washington right say that yes he can. Okay so let's say you find a team that he wants to go to and they say we'll give you two number ones in a player and you say no he doesn't get to dictate whether i training were not now. He can play hardball. But so can i. If it got to the point this. I did. And i'm on his side. He's such valuable commodity for me. The i'll be damned if you think i'm going to let any player if i'm the gm or owner push me in especially somebody that good. Who's this good in the community. We know what he means to the football team and to then how good he is. Yes if it got to the point. That i didn't find if he if he was set on moving out and it got to a point. I we knew it couldn't be fixed. No matter one okay. We gotta move him or we need to move. Not who need to and seventy cents on the dollar than hell. No i you damn right. I'm calling his bluff. If you've got the balls not just him any of us to sit out a full season for forty million dollars. I got to see it. Because the truth is if i were to hold him and then call his bluff if he shows up plays i know this about the character of this guy from what i've seen. He'll play hard. He'll play well when he's if he's in uniform on. The field loses a full year free agency on his contract and lose forty million bucks that you never able to make up doesn't matter that's forty million gone every go into next offseason in this team finishes to and fourteen without him. Pick second next year. Guess what i've done. I've gained a high first round pick. And now i'm going. Go get three or four more for watson for desperate teams yet because there's no guy on the draft next year or that your take. There's no guy in the draft this year. Trevor morris included this better than watson down the road next today so so i just jason i love your passion but if now here's what were if you were my gm or my older. I'd be afraid that you'd giving away. That's where we got to stop this. And yes if it gets to the poorest. I'm not given this guy away. he's two frigging valuable. I will call the bluff. You got the balls to sit out a full year at forty million and take away your free agency for you on your contract and lose the money a well. Then i guess we lose all eventually trae jig in what. What do i got to lose by holding on longer. What do i got to lose so when you say how does what's control the whole now. I'm on his side in this. But how does he control the whole situation. I don't know how anybody thinks he does. Unless of course the front office or a bunch of dumb asses. He controls where he goes. Yes it that is the only thing he controls he can approve or he wants out that if he really wants out hill it anywhere right if he hates it here. Yeah and if he's got to places he wants to go and you go and they're not offering the right value he ain't going there right. I'll i will play volleyball. Yes i absolute island with you one hundred percent. I wouldn't play hardball on a guy that i didn't think it was that good. But that's my cats that's like a hug compliment him. Dude it's it's amazing the the heart and stuff because i was willing to play hardball but even there there was. There was an extent of hardball. You play because the guys over thirty. There's you play hardball in the world. The guy's twenty-five doesn't matter us. You're gonna end up winning every time somebody that good and no fits the harden. Watson's his craft. Yes he's a more valuable to his team. Just is so no jason. You are the. I love you man and i love the bandon appreciate you. Are one hundred percent wrong that he controls the whole situation. No he doesn't. He controls the whole situation. If you got the common sense. I q in the front office of a minnow. And if people don't know what a minnow is looked at fish up if you've got the brain of the mind of a minnow okay now and jason. You're smarter than that. There's no damn way if you were my gentleman. John owner you come at me and say let's just trade him for two ones and a number two and a at a at starting outside a starting defensive end who's not appropriate. Hell no no absolutely not no. He doesn't control it if he's under contract. You know who controls it i do. If i'm the off. I control it because it's either a call your bluff. You may not like me already. Don't like our team if you wanna go and if you're not gonna come into play then what my losing by keeping him. Just we're going to lose. We're gonna take another year will lose. We'll go get another number one top five pick next year and they will ship watson for four number ones a player in a number two. If i got to play hardball i will. That's how valuable that dude is to me on and off the field. That's how that's the regarding. Donald watson it to me if you ship in for less. You're saying i don't care about winning and i really don't care he. He's not that important to us. Which then it shifts from watson to the stupidity on curvy if that were the case nick. Caserio got to be smarter than this. He's the one that we're counting on to talk. Some sense into the front office and say into the ownership and say give us a great coach. Eric the enemy. And let's get this watson thing fix don't even entertain trading his ass. He's too good and stop it now. So no once. In my in my scenario he does not control the situation. He controls where he goes if he leaves here. If you give me the right value for him if not ain't happening brother not now not ever sportstalk. Seven hundred. sean salisbury show. This is sports. Talk seven ninety of the rockets astros and the best lineup in houston sports. Now back to sean salisbury. And and jason also was talking about the. If there's an athlete can afford to sit out a forty year million. It is watson. I mean i don jason. I don't know maybe you know more about it. I don't know any athletes sits out of forty million dollars you maybe you got some insight to him. Got some insight to them that you think he can set out forty. Maybe he can't because he's so good. It's not a matter of if he can. Is he willing to that that. That's what aiming you for some reason. You think that watts every single frigging card. I don't know. I don't know where you get this. I mean i don't and what do you think the national narrative would be every week. That watson doesn't play if you play hardball and you can't trade him for equal value. I don't give a fuzzy rat's ass. What the national narrative is not say. I don't don't don't give. Yeah i don't care see the problem is we spend too much time in society if the texans are worried about hot take national narratives over what they're going to do with the second best building block in the league quarterback not named patrick mahomes and some is. Maybe the i think. I'd give a damn what some hot take show sitting in bristol. Connecticut or l. a. and fox cares. About how i handle and put my feet in the sand in the ground and firm foundation keeping one of the best three or four players in the league let alone quarterbacks the problem is if they are reading all the hot take yeah the fans and he said well fans will hell defense losing the fan base and they've already lost a lot of it pre even if watson's year because people are pissed at the front office and the the best way to get your fans back is not to trade watson is to keep him in may get more frigging respect as a front office you want. Let's say this thing goes to crap if you want count you count up there. What some and jackie's to be what some form of respect back and some dignity you want to know what they'll do they'll stand firm and say i'm not trading watson for unless you're giving me a whole that's going to hurt your franchise. I'm not doing it. And if that means hold now to make sure that you keep one of the finest players in the league then you do it. And then we'll say damn didn't know they had a backbone balls. They already gave away one cat for a second round. Pick can't do this so forgive. Caving just fascinated now. Will they jason. Maybe if that's your question then maybe they will i. I'm not in his head. I don't know but you wanna lose more respect. Give watts it away for two one or two and a player and watch the city that you think that's going to put fans in the stands. Tell frigging no. But i can tell you gotta listen. I want watson more than anything. Because i think he's spectacular. But i gotta make sure that we understand that. I'm not gonna do what some national hot clown show wants me to do. I don't care. I if i was the first of all. You're right if i was gm's you sound. We wouldn't be in this situation or the owner of this team. This would have been taken care of a long time ago and it would have never got to this situation. But i will tell you this. The first time The last time the next time. Should i say i care about some hot take narrative on what somebody in. Cincinnati thinks that we should do or l. a. or connecticut. Things we should do with watson will be the first time that'd be the first time i care i listen no no. I don't know why people also now let's just cave. What a bitch ass way to approach that you jason but what a bitch ass way to approach it. It would be for the texans offices. They well We got unhappy player. Let's just give away the second best building block in the nfl. Let's just do that bitch times too. If that's the case. Jason i love your passion. You're wrong here. And and i know you know football and i love having you on twitter and chime in but i'm just giving you the building blocks but you may be right my man. You may be right that they do cave and if they do i still think they will. And if and i think and i think it's simply just caving is not right. It's wrong it is way. But i'm gonna tell right now i'll fight tooth and nail to keep the what i think is one of the great players. I'm just telling you his the ascent that this guy could be on with the right players in the right committed is it's a scary assault on the league. He could have if if if look what he did on foreign twelve team with no defence. Give him just some give time where he doesn't have to play from behind all the time and let's see what happens so now. Sorry i love you but guess what. You ain't getting to shawn watson for nothing. I can promise you that ron welcome. What's up thinking like. Meat is more than man. I'm playing some hardball man. I listen to all these national show man and he's talking about how much on have a all the power he don't have all the power man dog power. I'm playing hardball. He's not going nowhere. And then she don't bring me that ron one hundred per. Thanks for the call. Yes that thank you a brinks truck and matter of fact you might have a bricks truck and another one right behind it. Okay that's what it might have to have and when you open both those torque brinks truck doors that dude. After dude comes walking out with the number one pick hanging around the hanging right on them all number one pick number one number one. I'm starting quarter. Yeah two bricks. Trump's i listened and this isn't an ron. I think you're on the same page. May i the shawn watson. this is all a compliment to watson. This isn't at all what this is. This is america. Wants it all right. Listen i want to do. I know how the my franchise man i give that so. I'm not giving them away. And i played hardball. Sorry if it means. I hate to say this because i don't ever want it to come to this but i can promise you this. I'm i if i had to go to camping. Well mccarron's going to be the quarterback and to sean still holding out doing because somebody offered me a one a two and a starting player and a third round pick. They're getting laughed at first and number number four is just going to have to watch if that's the case until he's ready come get his money and and do what he always does and that's dominate the football field. I understand why he's pissed. And i would be too but that doesn't mean i'm going to listen to some guys sitton. That's got a coat and tie on telling me how i should run. My franchiser saying to sean wants out. She's okay well he wants out. I don't want him out because i need him. No you guys out there that are willing to give this dude away. It also tells me that you don't value him like you should you should. What would you do on your own life for something in your life. Which would you would you stand firm and defend him a co worker or somebody was your sales but whatever it is if you said no no he's too valuable and that giving him away if you're the president of the company no hell no. I'm sorry how. Fight should be given to shawn watson await for some sixty five cents on the dollar and into hope that we get kind of good return. I'd fight you that ninety five. Since that matter of fact. I'd like one hundred and ten cent. I want an inventor in brooklyn thank you thank you because then are you getting overpaid probably not. Yeah so that good sorry right. Caller saying we're gonna get to all of you. Who when i got a guy under contract. I hold the cards at least in my mind. Now you're right. Jason mc. I have no frigging idea what they're gonna do over there at the happy meal spot. Hopefully the french fries are all in the bag employees and then keep the cash so we can pay other players. Stop it. They'd given him away. Well we got him. I don't have to make him happy. I had a winning. I wasn't happy here. Not in detroit or pittsburgh or frigging new york. Sportstalk seven ninety. Hey hindsight's twenty twenty. And i ain't gonna have it with the shawn watson i ain't going hindsight. Twenty twenty was a brutal year. I'm gonna make twenty twenty one better so can you a lot. We couldn't control pandemic tanked economy record job losses. What can we control will what we choose to do for a living our job our career. Lots of people decided to take control and twenty twenty and changed their their career. They went to my computer career. Twenty twenty help more people start an. It career did my computer than ever before. Don't look back with twenty twenty hindsight another year from now and saying. Hey i'm still stuck at twenty twenty job. Don't do it go to my computer career dot. Edu and take the free career violation today. 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A normal certain scenario where the front office has Commonsense iq higher than ten. Yeah and i'm not talking about you. This is a player that would never even be discussed on the phone with anybody. Apps have absolute ever ever until he's thirty seven and wants to play three more years and maybe he's free. You let philip rivers or you're on the air rogers move of drafting behind him and then people start calling say hey. Is he available. That's his trajectory. If in fact stays healthy keeps them what he's doing and he can do it on bad teams. He proved that see. Here's another thing. I looked at even hinds. It more this do this. And don't tell me we'll look yet. Veteran receivers diddy coming games. Cob get him how much he nine. Maybe we'll miss the bunch. He took a guy off the practice squad who'd never chat hands and he had trauma tournament to what maybe starter right cooks was a good player. Kikuchi had been in the doghouse. For stills. Who'd been a veteran good player in league. They ran him out. Yeah because he wasn't contributing still surprise he never sided. Yes so might didn't even buffalo about two. I thought he did. He would buffalo or was about to know what was coming down to it. They talked about it. He almost did. At least here's the bills. I missed that must have been towards the end of the year right at the beginning. Yeah okay right over the past january first so but it took that long yeah. He sat for weeks. So watson to this on a bad team. Now stick him with a good team here. Stadium in san francisco stadium in miami. You name a bunch of places. Can you imagine how he'll be when he doesn't have to put thirty four on the board and still looms no disrespect to the defense of the players. But they weren't good this year. It hasn't been each individual player doesn't have their moments but as a whole the some the parts are better than the some okay when it comes to the defense they gotta get better. It's obvious but can you imagine him on a team to sean. Just give me twenty four night. Give me twenty eight tonight and we'll win. You're like oh now there's so if you're always in some people will bitch and complain. Well look at the teams on a court. Mahomes does have to go through a little bit of that. We know he's the best but there's still people say yeah who couldn't succeed with those weapons. Maybe not you know what i'm saying you there's those guys who are non mahomes that he's like the next that he's going to these greatest thing in the world ever you'll hear again of. Yeah but come on man. Couldn't anybody have some success there. Which i don't say you don't say we know how good is most do but you'll get that naysayer that's like. Yeah but i'll take this guy him. Because can you imagine if you have these weapons and you say well what would watch them with those weapons. He do it mahomes. Does maybe a little different how he did it but it'd be very similar can you can't take that away but one thing i know watson has done that a lot of these guys haven't brady's but the coaching has been different. So that's an upgrade for him. It brady the watson strutted these on bad teams on a on a bat overall team this year. So imagine what. It'd be like on a really good team. And that's what i envisioned getting defense. Sewn-up get him on the same page. Everybody let's go man and do with number four now without him eljay was up on. This is john watson first of all if they trade him. I will never again. As long as cal is the owner and i know a lot of people that feel the same way i i. I'm with you. Yep if the texans care at all about what. Their public image was easter. Being caserio with in that building some right now that that's not something that they care about. Thirdly dude watson not only does he not have all the cards. That dude has zero cards. You are not he. If i'm if i'm the texans i'm not found this on. This is what i'm on other teams. Don't circle the water. There's blood in the water because there's not. This dude is not sitting one year let alone the five it would take up. Force me to move him thinking we'll be a texan. He has no leverage. You're going to have to give me so there's not a team in the league. That's gonna be dumb enough to give up what it would take for me to trade the shawn watson because the texans just proved you can still go for and twelve but shawn watson and that she would be left with eljay. Think about it. This was brought up yesterday by a caller which may great sense and we and we kinda thought about. We don't discuss nothing. You brought it up. Imagine let's say if you're the forty niners right and you gotta gimme bosa da. Deebo samuel three first round picks at a number two for watson anger gang. Grop that was for me. That's okay yeah garoppolo. Now you get watson you're going to be probably better than the texas but think about it now. Didn't you just got your own roster. Think about the hurt. The forty niners would would have to go through. And you lost robert sala and michael floor. You're going to lose a couple of guys that you can't keep veteran salary wise and all the sudden now you're kind of in a we gotta rebuild this quickly right. You already got rid of deforest buckner the year before. So you're given all those away. You get watson which is a tremendous upgraded quarterback and we're gonna suffer here because now we're rebuilding and now you're taking away a big core of your super bowl caliber team to replace him with a guy that you can get you to the super bowl and you're closer but now you've got to retool with draft picks you don't have so the vital no hurt has got to be so bad on the team. That comes at me. If i'm if i'm the front office here. If the disdain that it would have on the jets the dolphins i'm gonna cut their damn rostered and they're asking. You just said might still not be enough. The problem here is if dylan for t to own this team. I would feel fully confident that if somebody tried to come at at us like we were. We would get flipped done very quickly. If the problem is nobody trusts cow. But i'm just going to tell you. He's not trading to sean. I i i don't even think even he is that dumb and he does not care. What the what pr and the media says about him. Not capitulating to sean. He doesn't care if he cared caserio. Wouldn't be in the building to yesterday. So that's a double jinx great. Frigging call thank you. I agree with you. I think when all said it's a moot point there's only one little outlier here in l. Hit it is. Do you do trust cal not to but you're right. I think even his situation right. Why would you hire jack. Considering what he came. Then you didn't give you don't give you don't know jack or care what the people on the outside. I think you're right. Nick caserio ball. We don't want the fans didn't want another new england. You're you're still did that so we he doesn't appear to care about the hot take thoughts across the country which is a good thing. When it comes to watson keeping mir by not buying into all the crap players in front office or or other hot takes shows are saying you are one hundred percent correct. That even cow can't be can't be insane enough or low when i say cena meth about literally. I'm talking about the football commonsense. I that goes with this that you would came to. This is much as. I love watson and want him happy. I don't wanna listen. I'd rather have him kind of happy here but doing his thing for us on the field that really happy elsewhere hosing the trade and i don't believe players hold out for forty million dollars. No i just don't believe in a way that the guy and when he plays we'll play hard that's his character so no like i said if it was me honestly files the owner and you call it. And he sean we gotta assume prescott d be happy to matter of fact. I'm calling one on the general manager and the owner is giving me freedom. Hey let me start this. Press conference like this. I want you guys to stop now. Doug hold on. We'll get you. I want you guys to stop right. Now let me put it into this. We're gonna work it out with the sean. We want him here. We know he's doing it will. We'll get the set. But i can promise you. I'm sitting here now to shawn. Watson is our quarterback we are not trading him. We are not taking calls for trade for trade possibilities you could. You're wasting your valuable time that you never get back. It's like going to a bad movie. You never get the two hours back. Don't waste your time calling me to shawn. Watson is not available. He's a sacred cows. there is the league. You don't get a shot at him. Because you know what i'd say. Hey hey john lynch. You don't have enough a brian floors and and mr greer. You don't have enough. that jets. Sorry joe douglas. She don't have enough men. Don't call me. He's not you'll talk. Got a bunch of other players you can talk about. Oh you wanna give me two first rounders back for laremy. Tunsil miami or the jets. You need to tackle to go with your other. Tackle you just draft last year. It sure. i'll listen even though i don't want to trade him because i need that stable to watson. Who cooks your watts. don't call me. I told you don't call me change my number. Don't call me. He's not available. And then guess what all of us do. Okay take the site. I it would be shut down so fast it will shut. Why would you cut that option on. It ain't an option that's the point right. It's it's not an option. The option of trade. There is no option if on the front of his him it wouldn't. There's no way his to sean off that bad. If they went out and said we're not sure they held a press conference today and said he is not available to valuable. This is the great we we think he put him on the same. He and i would say that. Listen we hold them. In the same value that kansas city would hold their guy or the green holders. That's how we hold watson even lots of water traded. Wouldn't you feel like damn they really do love may. Yeah they of course. And i would say even if he'd be mad and frustrated like your kids get and when they don't give you know i'm not saying he's a kid but you know you have your love for my son. My twenty nine year old son biggest frustrated with me said i love you. Just i'm not gonna let you do that because i gotta have you around. I don't want you to move. I want you in the city. Did you around does shawn i. Can't i love you. that much man your valuables. We are not trading him. Hold that frigging press conference. Please stop this. I'm not taking your calls that winds. Pr bed right there. If you're used get out in front of the camera so by trade and don't call me. Well you're cutting you off. I don't it's not option. Dude i've just told you. Just not an option. Doug welcome in guys of a i'm with l. j. I don't think little cares. I think that's the biggest problem that all texans fans that it's a situation i think the only way that get traded accidentally hit the bug idea. Cut him off. My paper said who lives doug doug call call right back please. Matter of fact we'll take a quick break. I don't have to cut you off. Maybe that was a blessing. So i can hear your doug. I didn't mean to. Nobody did that on purpose. Paperwork patti hit the button and drop you. So that's on me a callback. I want to hear what you had to say. Doug that was an accident. We'll give you give us about three minute break and we'll get right back to you so doug call seven three two one two five seven hundred hardcore shawn watson talking exactly why this is zero option. There isn't one doug you're up next talk. Seven hundred. sean. Salisbury show continues on seven ninety and continues in your home. Say alexa play sports. Talk seven ninety on iheartradio Sports seventy doug. You're up at my bad. Sorry about that so that that was on me man. Thank you no. I'm just saying that you know l. day you brought up a lot of good points I don't. I don't think this is going anywhere but i don i mean. Rich people are crazy man. I mean that's that's that's the biggest problem. The biggest wild card and all of this is that i mean comic near. I mean you. I mean if he's over there thinking that sean has you know Disrespected him in any way or something. Some like that. I see happening. A trade happening But i don't know a lot of people. Compare this to the rockets james harden and i just don't think it's the same way first of all james and sean or not built the same way with john. I think i think you know dishonest. Gonna show up and he's gonna ball if he's got he's got a uniform on his ball out so i i just don't think they're built the same way But i do think that you know the accounts looking over there. What happened with the rockets. And and his like. I don't want someplace to tell me how to run my franchise. I mean you gotta understand these guys have to mungo egos both the players and owners so it's a very very dicey situation when when people start calling people out behind the scenes in the media on twitter and it's real I don't think. I think the ramifications for trade into shawn watson as far as what like you said what we would need. I just think it's too much. I think you'd have to just destroy franchise in order to get one player and not too many people do that couldn't agree more. Doug thanks thanks for your patience and for calling back. I appreciate your brother exactly. I mean you'd think about in a normal negotiation out. Think about it anytime. Let let let's just say. For instance to sean. He's under contract. he's he's happy he loves it. Yeah like he was just months ago. Next sucked right okay. Let's let's just say we're back to that right under contract anti posed the question who holds the cards in the shawn watson situation now that he signed not one soul would call up here and say to shawn watson. He's on a contract. Wouldn't be happy right. Yeah all right now i understood. Listen again we should have qualified this understand. Why is disgruntled right. We all do one hundred percent. Were hell this cities more on inside than you could ever even imagine if you just moved here if if you live in a bubble right here here is it. Let's let's common says we. We agreed with the shot but if he was happy everybody saying well he's under contract. What's he gonna do right if he ever got bothered. Well here we are now a couple of months later and he's bothered okay but imagine during that time. If all of a sudden you were the jets and you saw it coming around you say you know what they're four and nine three and neither losing you sound wonder is paid him but wonder started to look around. Maybe bill o'brien the struggles. Going to make a phone call joe. Douglas calls up and says i mean we're staring at the first. Pick of the draft man. Would you be interested in to sean. And three first routers possibly eunson moving him. All that money you pay any not win and with him. How about you you know know. We always great having an epic season. Yeah what do you think anybody say you know what they would get that call because nobody had the balls to call right because they'd say of course are not trade. The guys too good right. You don't waste your time right so we hear guys disgruntled obviously and understandably so so. Now you're gonna make the call. Just because i'm giving you the same. I'm giving you the same answer. I would if we were twelve and three. If you call me about the shawn watson hey. I hear sean. Unhappy wants to play closer to home in atlanta for will ideas it. You know what i wanna do. I wanna live on maui. Yeah but i got a job to do. Sorry can't oh to do that. I love to sean. I'm sure he does. He got enough money now to build a three offseason homes big hole manses if he wants to in atlanta we're twelve and three the guy's not getting traded now he ain't get treatment twenty forty. Okay embarrass so stop so see. How just a little old. And he may be fully unhappy. I hate to say this. I love the guy so much. He's going to have to stay on happy. Because you can't get in traded right not happening and like i said the hurt you seen a public all. He wants out. Think anybody listen. Even if aaron rodgers was disgruntled on draft day. Do you think anybody's green mates and you trip. You wanna ship. Aaron rodgers you think be called seattle and said hey man. You're defenses kinda helena handbasket. You wanted part with russ. Ain't nobody calling seattle right now. But russell wilson. No i assure you know. And guess what. They fired their offense even when he behaved. Nobody was things right. So why are you calling me because a player while at that okay. It's okay if you are taking phone calls on this guy. guess what. You're never even having to solicit these phone calls like you don't have to go out there and make the phone or even having to say yes or no. To things are saying or negotiating. They should be coming to you with their biggest and best offer from the jump. You're not playing the low ball game none of that crap now reverse it okay. M. c. kalmyk there. And i am miami and you decide you always unhappy that i'm going to be dumb enough to call. I'm going to make a call to miami. See what they wanna part with india or you're still by avocado call you up. Here's say a mr greer and coach floors. I i just want to ask you guys. Listen we got an unhappy quarterback who doesn't like miami right guys have on the on the rise we're gonna cut. How would you like to shawn watson. you're gonna say flow what you're talking about. You're going to say i saw you live. This is a prank call right. yeah. I'd like him for six. First rounders five first rounders to and your that your second best pass rusher and a second round or next year to year. Okay with that. And you're going to say. I love to have sean but man all those assets we built and we made we were to get all that up around the are getting. And and and you're gonna cut my franchise. We didn't make the playoffs. They're going to cut me. I'd have to think about it right now. You turn it and call me and say what three first rounders intuit. Dude i here let me let me let me put your call. Leave a voicemail. We made it back to you twelve years from now. You see my point. It's just to me. It's almost to the point. I'm at the point at comical. Oh it's been comical from the jump that because again it's comical because we're not supposed to be having this discussion at all. This should never be a thing and it's taken this to get here. If you're count mcnair and a team calls you. I would answer the phone. Look good health. That's not happening right. That's my plywood like executive me on my office. I'd be hit that dog on. I'd fire my secretary. Say how did you let that phone call through. Why is that called getting through. Are you not screening. The caller will sir. Mr sows mr mcnair. Or mr. mc or mr heavy t that was that was san francisco. Was john lynch. I don't care if it was harried. Friggin hatchet half. Don't answer the phone. Fulbari from the grave could call. Guess what don't want it through. The united states is on the line. Well what's he interested in. Well he wants to talk about trading for the shawn watson because he wants him at the washington football team hang up on the president wayne answering not interested trading him if count mcnair you can't be calling other teams because then you just look desperate and you're never gonna get what you want. He would net. You can't pick and then you look desperate. Yes you're now in a point of devaluing your quarterback by you making a call. Yeah i actually think you're in your quarterback by answering the call there is. There's only one option. There's really two what is he stayed in my world. The where he stayed and he's not playing because he doesn't want to show up. But i don't believe shawn watson is going to do that. We're doing all this discussion. And all these hypotheticals and we keep and i know that everybody's doing it. Because we live in a world of clicks and views and everything knowing landscaping up also ignoring. Like the most obvious reason as to why it's not happening. The texans can't take it in terms of trading away on their cap. They're already already over the cap they have to take a cap hit to move him and then people were talking about. Oh you train them here to get this quarterback what. They can't take on any more salary because they don't have the ability to. Let's just say it's the jets. Let's like richard sherman watts right in san francisco because he bad up there. And i love. Richard and richard's that stupid richards matter of fact the brightest hell because they'd be get to your couple of follow robert sala and then we got a quarterback to build around. I need that cat right. Yeah richards a bright guy gets it who don't want lots and other deep but here's the other thing. Let's just say the jets at four once a to sam darnold you say okay. Here's the problem. I'm taking just say. Dr one eighty million dollar hit i think. And here's what happens. Now take that twenty million. Now think about this. Mc take that twenty million heavy so darnold comes and lives up to the arm strength thing because well and guess what he's going into you gotta decide to pick up his fifth year. And what's that going to be twenty five million bucks some around there in the twenty twenty a twenty thousand sure what. His fifth year option. Exact price to be isn't it. In the mid twenties shawn's fifth year option was fifteen million so he's got to be around the same eighteen nineteen somewhere up around twenty million somewhere in that range right. I would think so regard regardless you pay him and then if you're picking up his option it tells you you're interested in keeping him right it would be in the neighborhood of twenty twenty five million okay right the first time. Not five million because he was the third pig so he just hired. Because watson was sean sean the twelfth big. Yeah yeah exactly. so dude. Twenty five million and the chances are darnold if he came here with the offensive. It was eric being me. Guess what he's going to be more successful radio he'd be more successful sections. Take a sixteen million dollar cap hit just from trade doubled. If you got eric be enemy here. I promise you with the offense is gonna do get better gore. They are going to score. And it's going to enhance your quarterback the watson options out. You're not called dondo. you're not. You're not trading him dude. Everybody else's we will listen. There's one guy out listening to. We are not taking phone calls. The angels are taking calls on my trout. We the candidate chiefs aren't taking calls on On On on patrick mahomes been walkie bucks right now are taking calls on jaanus. And guess who's not taking calls on houston or shouldn't be. Is this franchise right here. It's a wu. Saw moment ever done it is an non lusa. We went two and a half hours in and now. I'm praying to god that i don't see the alert on my phone. 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Sean salisbury continues on seven hundred ninety sports. Talk seven ninety there. We had like two and a half hours of like no no need for use our right all good. Yeah we got to talking about the tax things chain. We're getting better was two hours yesterday right by positive news today. But what does it like. Be the devil though. it's namath. Devil you are today. You don't you think kind of i mean the your devil devil thrown out into the universe. I'm not going. I'm not the first person thrown out. University of anything does shawn watson. it's going to trade. And i simply think does shawn watson is going to be traded because again the texans are stupid. It has nothing to do with me one. And they're gonna. You're not saying no they're satan. They're the ones that are going to trade him season. The only thing you would say everybody's you got you got rent beard ready. Yeah all right but my shade reds different right. Yes it is his like a harsher yet real bright red. The red okay. Let me ask you though. Heavy t the the unit. We're all going good. Say trade him and then you know what you you buzzkill it though. But i still think they're gonna trade him dude. You can't do that to us. Don't want to feel that way but in my gut feel it. And i feel that they're gonna drink detector test to put it on. I would tell you yes and it. Would you pass a lie detector. Test heavy t. You agree with them not on. Pass it a lie detector test something and wants to get a drink. And i believe that you think that i can tell you're not just saying it's eight. I believe you think they're gonna make a dumb enough move after all the talk we've given them see what we're saying not take talk. No what we're saying is common sense. Talk hot take would be a trade him for first or second round or two player. Now that no no so you really do in your soul got going to be traded. Td really think. That's going down. I you're the latest guy to the houston party on this. I think so. You're going to be the satan to. It's your filthy or amount. It's not because the sean is forcing his way out. Which he very well could be. It's because kalmyk mcnair. Is that stupid. I saw his press conference. The man is a bumbling idiot. By said it. I said it before. I said the man has an egg shaped head. He was humpty dumpty on the wall and jackie's to be is pushing him off but he had a great fall right. I mean matt thomas causing this every day. It'll be a great fall by trading shawn watson. Oh he's already halfway down the wall talk. What were you saying he Met thomas calls him he hall and they play on the background everytime they bring. You never watched that show digital long as you know i've seen it at least clips of it the Tyler right about it. I mean he's he's just you hate to be personal and anyway he comes off stupid as there's no other way to say there's a man that dumb past his nba rights. This is not possible. I disagree with that. I go with. The building is named after his family had nothing to do with money. No that doesn't exist in colleges not at all stop it. We don't do that stuff at usc. Never right i mean. There's no pay for rowing klatt growing nothing at a rowing scholarship. We don't do that clean as a whistle. That's money doesn't matter. Even rice clean as a whistle schools. I believe he probably went in there as magnet lau. Yeah listen. There's a difference between academic smarts and commonsense. I q that. Let's don't talk well okay. There's a difference between governance. Iq academic. I q and maybe you know your ability to verbalize it. Really give him a lot of a lot of what's jack straw. Great out of lauded things. We'll give me one of the things. He's great at a lot of things that doesn't say when he's great at have you heard them sing. Kumbaya honestly ask this. How do you know jack now. I know you don't know jack. But how do you. Jack doesn't sing. Like fergie jesus. I'm pretty confident. I've heard him speak. I'm pretty sure he doesn't sing like that. What about maybe. He's got a voice like for again. Jesus because maybe baby what he's into that mode all of a sudden he starts singing gets into the gospel songs. Maybe maybe how in your life do you ever sound like somebody comes to us in in in hides behind the let's pray on it god. Everybody nobody questions. That person. Why i've known in my life that has ever hid behind. That is the most shady person i've heard. Nobody ever questions that person because there may have gone allowed. You're not allowed to crack. Say i'm being related. We gotta we gotta quit living in that world where you can't question you don't do that. No i just did. When i was growing up in high school. I went to church when i was in high school. The biggest thing in youth group is all. I can't do this because god told me not to. It is the biggest cop out. Excuse to use faith for anything. And i can't stand now the opposite is to use everything right to we're also if you stub your toe. I hate i if you're if you're running with no shoes on a riding a bike and and remember when i was growing up. You'd like to ride your bike on the pedals without shoes on. And you'd stub your toe talk. Gotshall didn't get the skin on the ads. I don't think god's fault guess. What is your fault for being an idiot if you run out in front of a car and it. Didn't it thinking you're going to be a stunt man but you didn't realize the car like in twenty one jump street when they got practice and you don't know how to do it. It's not god's fault now. Listen i'm a god fearing man but i can't hide behind every decision. Well i drink red bull today because you know who told him to the lowered. Let the matter of fact. That's that's kind of sacrilegious towards the lord if you asked me now there's gotta be some accountability and i don't know jack but we're back to cal at his dude magna cum laude that at rice. I don't think anything with money. So i am sure you guys think life generally got that. Nba winning make this rhino to buy about texas building. I'm quoting you buy have i'd martyrdom guy. I'm not a good. I'm not a math guy at all. I challenged calvin erdo a math test tomorrow. Yup i do. I've made the worst mathematician in the history of sports radio. You're michael connor challenges counting there to a math test. Who's winning that one may be in the challenge to the common sense. If you trade watson the common sense. I q alcock challenge into that. Here's what this and you know what. I'm going to be the teacher guessing twins. I'm giving you guys who test the third grade math. Because they've done it so crazy. Have you looked at like eighth grade math now. It used to be plus two equal four. Now we gotta go through a formula of in order to get to four. You gotta show your work. Eighty seven thousand different tried teaching like tenth grade math in high school. Now or geometry. Be like yeah. No thanks but you want to say it again. You're challenging caldo math test. You don't think is names on the building because of academic prowess no. You don't know heavy. I will join in on. That matt has failed algebra highschool. And i'll still beat them. I'm still stuck on the common sense. I keep digging. Can't trade watson okay. We'll go back and talk to you. I gotta right out. My as if i don't have enough academic stuff going to be the teacher issuing test for you to cal what he shows up tomorrow border ready to go for his test bringing on bitch bringing sports stocks have died. He shot south ratio. Britt on your unbeliev bench. Let the celebration start. War sean salisbury. On sports talk seven. Ninety man flew by so the watson. Thanks for me to co hosts. You guys cannot believe you guys think they're going to do this to. It's not we want it to happen. It's because mcnair. Is that dumb. He would do now. I would hope that the last year that nicosia was in new england he saw what it was like with cam newton not tom brady cam newton on the top of his game. I would imagine as first year as gm. He doesn't want to go through that again so i'd hope he's at least smart enough for everybody that building to not get. There's no way nick caserio and his track record and how many people recommend him that he would allow out to do this now. When you say cows the owner he can do what he wants but without a fight does that make sense without without a serious way. No there's no way there's there's no way he can agree to this. If i'm nikki nicotera do it. But there's no way you can agree to be like if you go. If you trade him. I prefer to the prefer to go back to new england. That's what i was gonna say if i'm nick. Caserio view trade to quit. Quit to stay because he could leave and he can job anywhere. Not only that bill would hire him back in a second bill recommend him and that's been his that's been his right hand guy and semi mouth back and forth for what a dozen years twenty years. Yeah but i'm talking about where he's been like the person where he's in this position. It's been it's been what's it's twelve or two thousand eight or something where he's been basically the pseudo with with With bill but it's been a long time they've been together forever. So two thousand and eight to twenty twenty was. The director was the been the director of pro personnel since oh four basically and then like to now personnel system. That's been a gm basically with bill. He's been his right hand man he'd be he'd have a job in two seconds. Flat going back dislike mcdaniels had when he turned down the coaching job. Right if i would have a hard time. And i think i'm with you. That sounds so harsh and so come on man. You had given up this job. Listen if you tell me just like right now if you call. I know we'd probably get some argument over this. But if you told me right now. Hey eric the enemy watson's airbnb situation watson's we're going to trade him. I wouldn't take the job. I wait till the next job came to patrick. Mahomes i would i would. I would not take the job. There's a risk to that though right that you've been sitting here two years over you don't have a job right. He's hired you but like you said that he's not going to suddenly suck. The chiefs aren't going to be terrible. The asterix by white people would understand why he turned this job down. They'd say matter of fact more woodside with them and say dude. Just wait it out. If watson's not gonna be here we're not gonna hold it against you. Why isn't he been hired. Well they wanted to hire. But i'm not taking this job. Why because my quarterbacks not here then you get into the point where now you're in a chase mode you're suffering if you're suck for three years even if you have a six year contract your teams. No good you're the one who's gonna take the brunt of it and get fired. Yeah and then you do lose that shine that he has ended the shine so why not succeed as a coordinator instead of possibly have some failures. Heck we reform twelve with watson. What will it be like without him if it got to that point so i was the enemy knowing. Now if you're a guy that was never cullen in In baltimore they may never get another shot. As we've discussed you take the job no matter what right off. Do you're getting this opportunity. Your ego says fix it if your enemy saying. It ain't like i'm with a hat quarterback in a hack head coach. I'll go back and do this thing one more time. I'll revisit it next year after we're thirteen and three again in the number one seed in the afc and then we'll help. Then i'll go to a place where i can pick and choose again. So there's not a devalue. Eric the enemy if you turned down this job because his quarterback wasn't here most people around the league would look and say that i would have taken that job either. Yeah is it gonna is brian. Daboll going to be diminished if he doesn't get hired by the philadelphia eagles houston texans. Have he goes back in and allen toes for forty six hundred more yards next year forty. Five and thirty five touchdowns are back in the class. No no i was to say maybe we should have hired him last year. Not here but anywhere. Right so yeah. That's how harsh. I'd be on the decision to let my quarterback. Oh that's how valuable. He is to this franchise with watson men. But i also know that there comes a point time. Can't let you dictate me giving you lay. It would matter of fact it would be a slap in your face. If i gave you away for a cheaper price even though you may be happy meaning to sean if i gave them away for saying i don't value how good you actually are valuating. Now i know nick caserio values leading more than values. Making sure somebody on some show on on a hot take. Show is happy right. He winning bell. Jack never cared he valued winning. Mike question is is cal are his enisa cereals ability to i mean there will and want to win and sacrifices you need to make to win. Are they in alignment. If you watson and tells me. They're not no they're not. I mean nick. Caserio caserta agreed with it. Yeah he's being yes man right whatever the hell everybody else which i told you that was one of my things i did not want. Yeah he can't have that. No you need to be stand up. We're gonna do it this. You've you've hired me for six years you've given me a massive contract. Let me do my thang state of hell. Out of it and hold me accountable. Yeah now look. If that includes nichols area making the decision he and he himself alone trading to shawn watson. then he's again he's committing career suicide that he'll never be able to get back. Trust here in the city of people right. It will be a bad way for him to start. His tenure will be a miserable failure right and it will end before his contract ends right and for me. You'd think he'd be smarter considering he was around the best in the world. You'd think it's like if you're a coach from like if you saw what happened to the patriots this year in the brian. Brady's gone right if you're a backup quarterback and you get to be around peyton manning in his career if you're not learning from him and the the mental part of the game that you're just a frigging idiot right so if you're nick caserio watch bella check every step of the way. Say i'm gonna take those good traits with him. I'll do it with my personality. I'm br bringing them to my job when i do it. Any steady state a yes man. You're not you're exactly right you'll be. You won't last six years other than the fact that maybe they won't be tight wads and pay you because they don't want to fire you but we'll last and you're committing by giving away your best player early on your telling me that you also don't value when i don't believe nick caserio has that i don't believe that's him. I want to believe that. Yeah you're right right but if they do it'll tell you a whole story about what it's going to be like over the next five or six years right you know. You may get lucky and get great players. I don't know but i've given nick more cry. I he deserves to give him credit before. We loophole him in you know. Put him in that dog on motor pool of yet like i i would hope. His impact has more impact on them than they do on him. Does that make sense. Media front office did they. Did it permeates up instead of now. I mean down for sure. But it's getting the cow that his impact is more on cal than counters on him. Nicotera already knows how to win. The question is is he gonna be allowed like you said you paid him. Six years the bundle of money let put in his lap and let him do his thing work. You do you move on if it does work done quicker. Bless you made a great hire. Yeah that's exactly right right sports. Talk seven ninety. It's gonna rain out there so we care if it is going to rain. It's still a bright sunny day in. Houston i don't care what you say his back and go jason castro's back home and go bright sunny day for the devil right. I'm not the debt. You're not allowed to throw that out the university watson's get traded ever again ever again. No one to throw it out there. But i'm just saying that. I feel that it's coming. I don't show have you taste c- man. We're less than a month from spring training. I got michael brantley doing good good a couple of pitchers i gotta have. I've got to have watson back. I just got all right heavy enemy. We appreciate it. 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Whats next after signing George Springer? (Ep. 102)

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Whats next after signing George Springer? (Ep. 102)

"It was roy. Charleston was a word tall token hello and welcome to still one or two of section one thirty eight. I'm your host marcali has always. I'm joined by pricing and jacob. How're you guys. I'm doing good doing good. I i would be lying. If i said i still wasn't excited but i think everything's starting to sink in from now so everything's still good over here and it's been worldwide and couple of days but go ahead jake going to say it's been an absolutely crazy week here in in the blue jays fan base. But it's very exciting times. It definitely is. It's been four days since the blue jays signed george springer and there's really no sign of the blue jays slowing down they've shown interest or gotten close to signing michael brantley. Brad hand james. Paxton didi gregorius kris bryant. Kyle hendricks those are just some of the names that we know. The blue jays have been interested in these past four days and earlier this week before. The blue jays signed george springer. They also signed kirby gates and tyler chat would We've already talked about george springer on this podcast. But we never talked about. Kirby eight and tyler would because it kind of got obscured as you could imagine by the george springer news on tuesday night. So let's start there Do you guys think that these two to the blue jays are enough to solve the problems in their bullpen. Because kirby as we know he's coming off a at a bad year but he is a very strong pitcher he has been very good in the past and we anticipate and being very good for the blue jays perhaps even taking the closer role away from someone like jordan romano And of course anthony bass no longer coming back to the blue jays after signing a deal with the miami marlins so this addition this past week enough to solve the problems in the bullpen. Or do you still want to see other additions. For i make i honestly. I think this is all the blue jays needed. Bullpen back. end of it. Like you mentioned with jordan romano and especially with rafael delete. It was it was solomon last year With anthony bass obviously not with the team but it was still great. I mean we expected. Ken giles to be closer. But that obviously didn't happen in the bullpen. Was fantastic. it was all throughout the season. I don't. I didn't really have any questions or complaints about especially With with charlie montoya's kind of Y- doesn't leave starters in as long the bullpen was tested and it was. It was solid with With he ate. I think he's been great. I've heard a lot of comments from people on a message saying you know. He's he's a solid guy in twenty nine thousand nine. He did leave league lead. The league in saves with forty one and he. He's a solid guyanese. Obviously coming off of a bit down here but he's he'll be good for us and now they've they've solidified the back of their bullpen similar with tyler chat with. I mean looking through his stats. He's done a lot of starting with With los angeles and colorado. But he's kind of been pitching out of the bullpen with the cubs last couple of years and i mean your aol of about four forty some. You're getting an average guy possibly a fifth starter Middle the middle inning bullpen type. Guy not solid. Pick anger similar to robbie ray a very low risk type of deal where it's not not the flashiest name but it's somebody that definitely could go could pan out for losers and obviously with robbie ray coming back for another year. We see that the blue jays are willing to to bet on these guys. And i think these are definitely solid pickups for them yeah are i think the jays are almost there may be an armor. Maybe one more arm. I think would be good. But if they were to end it now and pretty much solidify their bullpen. For now i think. I think they're in a decent position to be honest with you and a lot of it is going to depend on kirby aides who was coming off a. I think it was an elbow injury. And he pretty much limited him to five games. Twenty twenty and Those five appearances didn't go too well but if you look at the year prior to that he was yet an array below two he was an all star and if you returns to form That could be a massive massive difference for this bullpen. And right now when you look at the names that they have it is kirby it's it's jordan romano raffaelle dooley's julian meriwether ryan ba- rookie tyler. Childhood anthony cave shooting yamaguchi and depending on when or if the jays at another starter we are expecting that. I guess ross stripling can be thrown around there is a potential option in the bullpen. And there's lots of other names Trent thornton's going to be one. Who's going to be hanging around his. Well i guess trying to compete for a rotation spot. Don't know how successful he'll be in that. But there's lots of names that are hanging around and with child tyler chat with signing. He comes over from the chicago cubs and pretty much another player. Who i guess. If you shows up could be another big difference maker for this team. Last year. he struggled In chicago he put up a five thirty era with the negative war. But the one thing. I do look at his was three thirty five so i guess proves that he was somewhat unlucky and his last season where he had i guess a goody one of his better numbers for his career was twenty. Nine thousand nine With the ziauddin era of three seventy six and a whip of one point three three so Around the major league average and course it comes with the cheap contract of one year and three million dollars so those signings are going to be a big difference for this team and you hope that all of them are. Both of those new editions are just a good added or a good piece to the puzzle that could make this team competitive. As pitching right now would be the weakness in this team when you look at it on paper and that is why the bluejays are still trying to address it and get starting pitchers and Looked at other pitchers may for the bullpen around there. But the kirby it's one to just it's going to be a massive difference maker got a five and a half million dollar deal which can go up to around eight million with incentives. And it's just it's it's i love how this came out of nowhere because kirby was actually one of the people that we've never mentioned in terms of these rumors kind of came out of nowhere and It was just on last week. I right i think it was. It was the day that springer did sign or the day before was right in the morning when he signed and it was I was thrilled with it. But the one thing i do look at too is now and mark. You mentioned this when you introduced. The topic is that he is a potential. It's another potential option to be closer and the one thing to with this team has. It's the first time which i found interesting. It's been six years now so The first time since twenty fifteen where they will be entering a season without a written closer like set in stone closer that we don't know for sure because in that timeframe it has been roberto sooner previously and congeals after that. So when you look at this team now you add another option to be a closer you jordan mono raggio dooley's and now kirby gates depending on his performance. Could you can't rule out being closer for this team. Who knows if he starts at that way but at some point Who knows he can easily become a slot into the closing position. So these two pieces. A lot of it will depend on the performance by the way they line this up It's got a pretty low risk high reward based off of the salary and based off of the term everything like that but maybe one more armed I think but they do have a lot of they do have a lotta pictures now hanging around that bullpen. So maybe they don't even have room I've mention someone like ross stripling to. Who's right now slated in that rotation but we expect the signing for starters so that could be another option so there it is going to get pretty crowded but right now i think they're in a good position. These two signings nearly completed it for me in terms of the bullpen mentioned their performance. And that's part of a little bit worried about because both of these guys are coming off like sub optimal years. I mean kirby. Yates we know what he can be in two thousand nineteen. He had a one point one nine. Era he had an all-star season. Got cy young award votes. That year he had a league leading. Forty one saves as jacob already mentioned but last year in twenty twenty. He missed a lot of time because he had surgery to remove bone chips. And then the same thing with tyler tablet right. He had a rough twenty twenty season. He had an injury and he missed most of the season. He had a forearm strain in before that in two thousand nineteen. He was really good. He had three point seven year. Ray mostly out of the bullpen. But i think that i'm worried about is that we'll get twenty twenty starter or reliever and not the two thousand nine hundred starter reliever. That's what i'm worried about. And that's why. I think the blue jays still up to go out and get another name whether it's brad hand. Um whether it's a lesser name or even a starter like james paxton. Obviously we know they need starting. But i think if they solidify their rotation that means that by extension the bullpen gets more depth. If that makes sense right because you have right now you have some guys who maybe they fit in the number four spot number five spot in the rotation or maybe they fit in the bullpen. I'm thinking anthony k ryan baraki. Although i don't really think brookies returning to the rotation anytime soon but i think if you go out and you get a james paxton you get jay z. Then you move those guys permanently to the bullpen. Or if you do the other way round you go you get brad hand. Then you don't have to worry about that bullpen depth. So i think there's still more work to be done just because you can't bank absolutely on the performance of someone like curb gates on the performance of someone like even though we should expect them to be good. We can't guarantee they will be as good as they were. Yeah absolutely so. When i meant to the low risk reward is obviously with the the salary. It's not the end of the world financially but in terms of the actual performance it. It is a difference maker and brad hand. I guess the latest we've heard is that the jays appear to be the front runners or at least they have the best chance of somewhat bypassing the mets how cool that be to beat the midst to straight times in a matter of a couple of weeks. That would be really cool. Brad hand is another one if you add him as well. There's another option. I guess your front runner to be the closer of this team and that takes it to the next level so he's still on the market and there's a decent chance that the jays can still do this because we know you know. Just because the jay's got their guy in springer for the next six years they paid the big bucks from it does not mean. They're done right at the introduction mark when you introduce players who they're still looking at. I think that just proves that that they're not even close to being done. And we're almost in january now so it'll be exciting here. I guess in the last part of the offseason. So i'm very excited to see what happens. Yeah and you mentioned by adding to your rotation that kind of unintentionally balsam intentionally will add to your bullpen. And i think that is true because we've said all throughout the offseason that the blue jays need to third starter but as for their fifth starter. Which is the one spot in the rotation that is not solidify. That's probably going to go to a bowl pinkie. So if he were to nor choir james paxton or even a second starter then your bullpen is almost completely solidified. Because then you're not losing anthony k or a middle inning guy or even someone like tyler chat would who has Started in the past. Who wouldn't start so it's blue. I don't think are done The bullpen i think is probably they're done making moves that are dedicated to the bullpen. But i think you know if they were to go and acquire a starter then. They need to do that. But that would also that would improve the rotation but at the same time then your bullpen is almost even more solidified. Because now you don't have a guy that you're not sure about where he's going to go and i think toronto's top priority right now is the rotation i don't think like like what we're saying is just solidifying that fact the blue jays priority is rotation and that i would say an infielder and then relievers or bullpen depth. If you can get it. I think the number one and number two thing that they have to do right now is not the bullpen. It's an infield and the pitching we've seen them trying to solidify through rumors since we last talked about george springer. I mean we've been bringing up the names but might as well just break. Open that discussion. James paxton. He's a name that the blue jays were involved with yesterday. You have someone like anthony bass who of course we're interested signing away with the miami marlins. I already mentioned. You have didi gregorious. Who the blue jays are apparently have some level of interest in according to shy viti. So you have these names that the blue jays trying to get or at least interested in before they get a reliever. So i let. Let's talk about those names. So james paxton. Of course he's another one of those guys who didn't have a great twenty twenty but is overall a pretty good pitcher. What you guys think about this are you. Would you be happy if the blue jays went out. And got james paxton called it quits with the starting rotation or do you want them to get a different name. Like of course. Trevor bauer jayco taurasi. Is james paxton good enough to satisfy what you think. The blue jays need imitation for james paxton. That one's interesting because while first of all canadian connection right away is Something that interests me and of course the the one thing that you remember paxton is when he hit and he hit the j. fears ago but last year at least since he's been with the yankees as numbers exactly haven't been the greatest. I and twenty nine thousand nine. He had era just below four so it was all right but last year in particular in twenty twenty sixty four years so nothing that was i guess. Impressive or not but for paxton too. I like the idea of paxton because of re early canadian connection as well but we also have seen him when he's been pitching good and you know i'm i'm not really gonna take a lot away from twenty twenty for that reason alone is while i just feel like there is something there but i just. It's not enough for me to say okay. Based office performance last year of this is something that the team shouldn't pursue. there's lots of names all due. Respect him that. I guess are more of like a plan. A and j one of them. And you know those are the pictures that i would assume that you are targeting more and hopefully these are more like a fallback option. But i like. I like the amount of names that this team continues to be interesting. Or interested in and For jaco to rizzi as well. He's another solid pitcher. Who would be a great fit in this rotation right at the top to the middle. The worst part of this rotation james paxton would be a good fallback option but starting pitching gotta be the priority because of those reasons alone when you look at an infield or at least the blue jays have options around them in case. It doesn't work out that they already have on this team. But when it comes to the rotation there really isn't any other options are plan b's if you don't get a starting pitcher the only really plan you have is to throw when somebody else like a ross stripling or somebody else within the system which was a little bit more of a risk and you want to add to the depth which is which would make sense and you know focusing primarily on starting pitching has to be What the blue jays are all over right now and it would make complete sense. But james paxton would be a name that i would definitely be open to but jacuzzi would be. I think all three of us would that he should be the number one guy at least that this team pursuing and he would be the greatest fit here out of all these paxton would be a good option as well as something continues drag on or if the jays minnesota rizzi. Yeah i think the same thing. I mean when you look at james paxton in his his career stats. They're actually pretty good. I mean twenty. Twenty was kind of a rough year for him with the yankees with a sixty four year. But other than that. You know you're gonna get a solid pitcher you know amid threes. Era other a few times. Where he he's actually really get close to or even blow to china's early days with seattle but overall he's a good player like you said probably more of a of a plan. B type guy. The blue jays have other options who are not signing. We've mentioned god. Jay z What's his name taiwan walker. You know there's a lot of guys that the blue jays could easily Still target because nobody else is targeting. The release nobody sign them. But i wouldn't actually mind. Assigning signing of james james paxton because he has a solid pitcher and he could be the fifth starter. I mean you know fourth or fifth depending on how they want to. They want to go about that. With robbie ray but you know what i think it would be a good option like you said brazen if it's something where contracts are certain drag on and nothing has really happened yet. Then the bluejays should easily target him because he he would make this team better than it is also interesting the like you mentioned the canadian connection and the fact that he has no hit the bluejays you know and little interesting tidbit there but yeah but james paxton is a solid pitcher in the blue jays you. They could benefit from the depth him. I think he he again would be lower. Risk type deal by mediocre to high award. I would call that a win. He would easily be beneficial for this team. Yeah i think. It's the same type of thing that you would expect with as i mentioned kirby Would you expect him to be a lot better. But there's still a level of risk there so obviously your top choice should be jake odor izzy but if you have to get by with someone like james paxson. That's okay and if it means the blue jays get james paxton in then they also have the space and capacity to go and get an infielder like didi gregorius or as we've mentioned another pitcher out of the bullpen. Name like brad hand. Whether it's someone else i'm happy with that if they spend less on the rotation and it gives them more to spend elsewhere. I'm happy But i'm like i'm happy. However goes as long as they get a mediocre good pitcher to fill out the rotation. I think a great addition for them and i think that takes them to the next level. We've been beating around the bush this entire episode because we talked about it a lot in our last episode ba. Let's just jump right to george springer because there's so much else happening in the blue jay world but obviously this is the number one thing happening in the blue jays world so to start off our guess. Second conversation about george springer since we last talked on tuesday about him. Have your opinions or thoughts. About george springer changed at all. I mean we've seen a of discourse around the six year hundred and fifty million dollar deal. We've seen people saying okay. This is good. It's not enough for the blue jays to just do this. Have your opinions that you shared on our podcast on tuesday changed at all as you've thought more about this deal. I'm going to say no. I have the same opinion and i was. I tried to manage my expectations. Obviously i was very happy about it. But at the same time i tried to. Also take into consideration the potential downsides. And i'm going to say. I have the same opinion you know. I'm excited that. He is now a toronto blue jay. He makes this team very good Y- nothing really against him or any of that you know. He's like we said he's he's a fantastic player. He's a three time all star. I believe also two-time silver slugger. You know he. He's a great player and he solidifies this outfield for at least the next four to five years. And especially as we've talked about with guys like escorial junior tasker hands now. This outfield is set for next couple of years next multiple. Not even as a couple but we mentioned last year or last Earlier this week. I should say it's a lot of money and a video. Also just came up with a tweet breaking down his his His contract and he's gonna make a lot of money. Next year is actually gonna make twenty eight million next year but the majority of it is going to be around twenty two million so it's it is a lot of money but at the same time we've said this. The blue jays need to overpay guys I think most of my opinions on the street is just excitement and also it is kind of interesting when you think about it. The blue jays in the last two years they have acquired to unanimously loved us. Stars unanimously recognized stars around the league with high engine reu- last year last offseason and now george springer so the bluejays. They're making the moves that they need. And i'm i'm excited about it. And i think they they have a great player. Obviously there are some downsides. It is a lot of money a big time commitment but overall this team is good. They're going to be a lot better with him. So i'm just i'm happy and my opinion really hasn't changed. I move yeah he may be well like For us at least but you know around the game and especially place like new york. I feel like it might be a little bit. Otherwise just because of that astros connection a little bit of a foreshadow for later on in the episode but for me jacob completely agree. Nothing's changed for me. I'm i'm very excited about this. And i think i join along millions of blue jays fans who agree with me and for those who i guess for the few that completely hit on this deal. I just don't understand them. I don't understand why people would hate on the front office because the front office got out and got the guy for the next six years the biggest largest signing in franchise history which we discussed and an all star in the league player. You know everything goes along with his name Just a massive massive edition. And i couldn't be more excited for him but you know one hundred fifty million dollars. I guess you could say they overpaid but the one thing i do still like about this is that they gave him exactly what he wanted. And of course we know. How the mets when under that they want around one hundred twenty five to the maximum but You know we mentioned it last week. And i personally said it to. The mets got lender the door. And that kind of led the way for the jays to get george springer but for me. Nothing's really changed You know you know what you're going to be getting out of them at least on paper. The starting center fielder for the next six years and everything about him is just. I think it's gonna bring a lot more attention to the team and rightfully so that the as have been dominating the news networks in the country and around major league baseball all week. You know it's very rare to see the jays. I guess especially in a hockey town especially during hockey's basketball season to be leading the way on sportscenter or the news because of what they did because they were doing that all this week and this was a massive of a bombshell of an effect across the entire country and of like i am like i mentioned all of baseball because now people are looking at the jays and they're starting to realize that they are for real. They're getting more recognition. They're getting more attention and that's something that they truly deserve. Because for these past couple years I guess near the end of the that they've been going through With these young stars that they have and bischette bijou guerrero. They still have been kind of being. You know. they've been under the radar a little bit. I guess the mobis been pumping them up a bit but the attention still isn't completely there so i hope that george springer thing brings that up and rightfully should and i think it has so far based on the reactions and everything we've seen but nothing's changed. He's going to be selling tickets. Once fans are available to go back to roger center. he's going to be selling jerseys merchandise Of it it's gonna to be. It's a massive massive opportunity for the blue jays and and you would hope in these six years or at least most i would say more like four or five of those years. You see an elite george springer that we we've been used to seeing so far Or early on in his career. I mean for me. Nothing has really changed is said on the podcast tuesday that it's too much money for him and i stick by that but again like i said you have to overpay for guys like this so i'm not really bothered by the fact that it's a lot of money but yeah i think most fans even though things have may be cooled off a little bit passionate of cooled. I think most fans are still very very happy with this deal. I don't know how you couldn't be. It's it's george springer it. It's the best position player on the market and the blue jays. Got him and you really can't disagree with that at all. I've seen some people complain. And i've done some chirping from friends of mine who are not blue jays fans about the fact that george springer yes he did play on the twenty seventeen astros and now he's coming to the blue jays and it seems like blue fans are just totally ignoring the fact that he was on the astros at year and he did take part in a cheating team. I've been excusing this to myself. By saying yes. He was a cheater in two seventeen. Yes he made mistakes yes he should have been punished by major league baseball. But that's in the past and it's not something blue fans can control so i'm just going to be happy to bluejays got him. I know that's kind of working around it and you know making it. Feel good to myself and making excuses. But that's how i'm wrestling with the fact that he s he did cheat but also he's a toronto blue jay. I love that exactly. That's what that's what i was gonna say you brought up a good point you know kind of. I don't think we should necessarily forget this but at the same time. If george springer is going to be a toronto blue jay for the next six years. I would rather enjoy that. Then sit there and be angry because you know you can you. Can you can acknowledge that this happened. And i do think he should have been punished as well as every other player. That was involved in it but at the same time. He's a blue jay. I i don't wanna excuse it but at the same time if he's helping my team win i'm not gonna. I'm not gonna go against that and say that doesn't count because he was a cheater. Look what happened like you said it happened. There's not really anything that we could do about it again. George springer is a blue jay. He helps the team. He makes his team better. He's one of the biggest is the biggest signing that the blue jays have ever made and he makes this team good. I don't think you can forget what happened. But at the same time you have to acknowledge the fact that the he's a part of your team whether you like it or not we cannot control that he is now a blue jay and if we just sit there and hold a grudge against him will then. We're just going waste six years of of watching fun baseball so we can't forget it but at the same time you can't you can't just sit there and be angry but the entire you can still be upset about the fact that this was cheating and i've said this before you know this was. This was a disgrace competitive sports. Not just baseball. But look if he may if he's helping your team better and he's hopefully learn from that and moving on then. I think it's fair to say that. Oh welcome him to the blue jays. Yeah and everything that astros team did. And you know you can't undo and that's the one thing that once george springer scorer is over and just like anybody else in that astros team from twenty seventeen to whenever they stopped cheating. You're gonna look back at their numbers and you're going to look back and remember the one thing that they will be remembered for in that twenty seventeen title and that was the fact that they were cheating. Were the trash can bagging. I was actually looking through funny enough. I was looking through previous tapes today. And i i found a video of You know that that I don't know what his name was. But he was doing the entire astro scandal tweets. And you can hear the trash can banking in the videos. And i came across one of the springer ones and the green tomboy. What it was and yeah. I came across one of the springer at bats. I did there was a trash can going on over there. But lucky i it's it is in the past and the one thing i i like about this move especially when you wanna talk about it from george springer's perspective regardless of where he went and i would probably agree with them and this is my theory. I want to ask you guys to if you guys were part of this cheating scandal you know especially for a guy like springer. Who's know he's in the. I believe it's been in the league for about six or seven years now. So he's got a lot of time left and the one thing he needs to do and the one thing that he still has time to do is reestablish his reputation and what better not to reestablish your reputation by going to a different organization. I feel. That's the best course of action and you might see that a little bit more down the line with the astros contracts expire. I'm not sure personally. But that's how i feel and that's one of my theories. And if i was in that situation i would want to reestablish my career and i would want a fresh start somewhere else in. That's that's personally how i feel. And this is if springer went to the mats to came to the jay z. Went anywhere else. He needed a fresh start. And this is perfect for him. He's still young or he's in his early thirties. Now he's been in the league for seven years. This is exactly winning needs to reestablish his reputation and. I'm glad he took the opportunity to do it here. Obviously but the one thing too is. I know that entire team was guilty. obviously it was more on l. Too vague correa bregman however of course everyone knew what was going on and they're still guilty for it unfortunately but it's just it was unfortunate and i'm sure when you look back on it now they're all gonna regret it. One day and springer springer's well it takes away from him because along with all these other heads because regardless of their cheating or not. These guys are still elite baseball players and forever. They're going to be questioned for how good they really were. Based off of these scandals. So for george springer come over here for the next six years and start fresh. You know when he has the time to do it. Still this could potentially reestablish his career and the one thing for sure he is become a fan favorite here fast. We know how quickly jays fans will fall in love with players. I'm sure everyone's on you know. Most of people are really happy to with hundred and we've seen with other players two fifteen. David price was a hero after the first in Like the the game sold out and from there on out the rest of the season. Sellouts it when i'm trying to say is the point is that they can win over. You can win over the jazz fan base that quick and springer. It's it's a great opportunity for him. And i'm just i'm looking at all these numbers and projections for and there's lots of projections coming up for him already. And this the take to take the senate's obviously if they're playing games at rogers centre. That's how the numbers were conducted going to be altered because they'll be likely playing elsewhere but he's projected to seventy nine is projected to hit thirty. Six home runs ninety. Two rb is and that just screams elite baseball and somebody who can lead the way for this team and be a leader both on and off the field and we know off the field. He's a great Person as well when houston went through the hurricane a couple years ago he was the one pretty much donating thousands of dollars to all across houston to help them get back on their feet and of course he's been donating a lot of money to From the pandemic. So i think that just shows the character he is off the field And i once again. I can't take anything away from the cheating that he was involved in in two thousand seventeen but for blue jays fans and for i guess we can only really speak to blue jays fans. It's time to flip the page. A fresh start and realize the potential of a player that you guys are getting. of course. he's still going to hear it. I you know. I wouldn't be surprised in zoom zoom press conference one of the first questions. You have to imagine this is gonna have to be addressed at some point. You know someone's gonna ask him about the cheating in two thousand seventeen and wants fans return. He's going to have to. Go through fenway park and yankee stadium. A lot more than he used to. So it's he's still gonna have to deal with of course for the next couple of years. He's not completely out of the woods going to a new team but this opportunity from It's a good one for and i'm truly excited along with every other bluejays fan that exists most of them. I should say and it does feel kind of hypocritical. i guess for us to sit here and be. Oh he centigrade player. Oh we're so. Happy is on the blue jays. Even though i guess like a year ago pretty much we were on this podcast saying you know. This is one of the scandals in baseball history. This is horrible. We hate these guys so it does feel hypocritical. But i guess we're justifying it in these ways so if any famous listening and feels guilty for being happy about this. Here's some you're learning some ways to justify it to yourself. But another way that i kind of think about is like george springer. Yes as you mentioned bracing like he's a good guy off the field and like he was only twenty six in two thousand sixteen and twenty seven and twenty seventeen like he was not a veteran on that club. He didn't have the type of influence to make the team. Stop cheating by himself right. it's not he was an instigator. It's not like money of the players. Were in skaters of this. I know there's some players who were heavily involved in it but largely it was you know. Aj hinch it was the management. That head spearheaded this guy in the front office. Who said look we can take this algorithm we can figure out what the signs mean and then we can set up these tv cameras. We can do it this way. It wasn't something that was spearheaded by the players. So yes they deserve some responsibility and guilt for it. But i think you can still be happy that the blue jays got it so. That's another way that i'm trying to justify to myself. I know it seems like we're making excuses and to some extent we are but I mean look. We got this guy for six years. We're going to have to live with him for that long. We can't be blaming him for the scandal for that long so That's how that's how. I'm trying to to work around this. Also one of the things that i actually tried to do. Some research and i wanted to see how much George springer took took part in this. And if you guys remember a twitter a guy on twitter. Name tony adams. He was the one that listened to every astros game and tried to hear the banging of the trash can noises and what he did is he. He made a graph of which players actually used. The trash can the most Now george springer. He and alex bregman unfortunately were two of the biggest culprits with Springer actually having fifteen percent of his pitches told to him. How i. I'm not trying to excuse that. Nah i don't want to necessarily add fuel to the fire to the astros haters. Look i wanna. Despite that george springer obviously his numbers were very good and twenty seven. But they've also been very good for the majority of his career. I mean two thousand fourteen. Is i in the league. He at two thirty one but after that he's been an above average hitter for a very long or pretty much for the entirety of his career. Mean he hit over two seventy and twenty fifteen and over to sixty two thousand sixteen. You know he almost hit three hundred actually twenty nine thousand nine. He's not a bad player. And his on base percentage again you know is career on base percentage three sixty one so it is good and i don't think we can necessarily what i think we can take away from these numbers. Yes you know. He was part of a very bad part of baseball history. But at the same time. It's not like he was one of those players where he needed that. Obviously he did you take part in it but he is still a very good player and it's not like he was only good because of those cheating scandals and he's a good player and i don't want to repeat myself but the he is a blue jay and you need to accept this because if if we don't accept the enr angry about it well then we're just like i said we're gonna waste six years of our of potentially the best era of luigi baseball. Yeah you can go put all the numbers together or whatnot but at the end of the day. of course. you can't make excuses for what happened. But that's why look. That's why i said it. He's only been leak for seven years. He's got a chance to reestablish himself he's got time and he's got a little bit of something to prove for sure for the rest of the baseball world if he keeps these numbers up and continues to play like he has I think that'll tell you how good he is with her without a trash can bang so regardless george springer George springer jersey is on my hitlist as soon as possible. The baby blue the new blue. I'm sure you guys are both on the same course of action there in pretty much every other fan. So he's gonna be selling jerseys. He's going to be selling tickets like him or not for his his past. You know at the end of the day every baseball fan does have to move on. Might take a little bit longer for certain fan bases. But that's just the truth because unfortunately you can't do it so after. The blue jays signed george springer on tuesday. We mentioned it on the podcast but they were still interested in michael brantley and then the day after on wednesday around noon we heard from hazel may of sports net that the blue jays. We're in agreement on a three year. Deal with michael brantley And we were all pretty excited. I think we all thought bluejays are going for it. This is it. They've got michael brantley. Now they're going to make a trade with an outfielder for another guy is it and then it all kind of fell apart over the course of the day i mean we originally heard from mark fine to end of mlb dot com that the deal with the blue jays and michael brantley isn't done and it developed into it was nowhere near done and then it developed into. He's resigning with the houston astros. Two years thirty two million dollars. This was very very weird because pretty much. Everyone said that michael brantley time with the blue jays wasn't just hazel. May it was the big guys. Who's jeff passan. It was ken rosenthal. It was jon morosi. It was all of those guys saying. Yes mike brantley is going to be a toronto blue jay and then it was all those guys walking it back. So is very weird. What did you guys make of this fiasco. Because i mean we've talked about before in this. Podcast how michael brantley has never really been a very strong fit for the blue jays. It didn't make much sense for the blue jays to get him after. They signed george springer that being said it would have been an incredible edition. He's a wonderful bat a great hitter and he would've made a lot of improvements to the team. Especially when you consider what they would have done after a trade for a guy like grisha quotas curry junior tasker hernandez But he'd never was a perfect fit for this team. I'll be honest. I when the when the trade was supposedly or not the signing was supposedly official. I was like okay. You know he'll make the team better. You'll be a good fourth outfielder by prior to hearing that it was official. I was still never necessarily King on this. I thought the bluejays didn't really need another outfielder without having to make a trade but even regardless. I didn't think that michael brantley was necessarily the the right fit for the buddha's like you said mark but right after the trade was kind of debunked keep injury but right after the signing was made or was debunked was kind of relieved. Just because i didn't necessarily think the blue jays needed him And actually kinda felt bad because hazel may one of the original. I think twitter or people that tweeted saying that. This was official received a lot of backlash for it on twitter. I think she deleted her original tweet. I tried to find it. But i think it's gone but still a lot of people. Were trashing her. Most recent tweet that said it was debunked and it was just it was a whirlwind of however i think it was like two hour span. It was just a weird weird morning because we heard obviously the day before. George springer signed and rawal euphoric about that. But then we hear. Michael brantley is going to the blue jays for wh- three years and i was like okay. That's the outfield is is completely set for the next three years but then it's not actually happening and admittedly. I had a bit of a sigh of relief. Because i don't know why the blue jays would literally go and signed to outfielders when they already had four arguably five outfielders that could fit that role so it was a weird situation but in the end i think it did work out for the blue jays because they didn't end up signing somebody that they didn't necessarily need yeah. I got a lot of mike. Napoli feelings to this because Well just because of how quickly theory are for. Just a refresh mike. Napoli was a blue jay for about four days acquired in the vernon wells. Deal back in. I think it was twenty fourteen and then he was pretty much traded to taxes. Four days later for frank francisco. So that's that's what compares it to me just to feel how quickest in with the blue jays was. Yeah i grabbed this. One is more of deflating The blue jays fans an all time high in getting george springer. Everyone was pretty much freaking out and then the same night because when we did our emergency podcasts we remember. We were speaking about it right away. And how george springer had the same. I guess was represented by the same agency as brantley their close friends and this seemed to be more something to keep him happy or start off happy. Like right away okay. You know his. I guess thought or his first recommendation was bringing. Michael brantley i. Clearly they did everything they could. Actually i can't even say that because we later got a report that they weren't even close so it was just everything about it's very bizarre because it started off and was very similar to how springer signing went down. It's hurt off from a local writer but this writer at believe was based off of atlanta. So that's the other thing and then the same and then one or the other ones I guess another individual who was on top of the springer report is well that came in later confirmed it and then all the big boys came into confirmed as well and then we got the report from later that afternoon when mark mentioned how there was no deal in place so then we're like okay And then there is also rumors that they were potentially They were potentially looking to make a trade but I don't know it was. It was very very interesting and It just how it fell apart so quick because he was supposed to come here on a three year deal and the one thing for brantley to is in to make them fit in this lineup. You needed to trade away. Outfielders because Compared to what today's going after right now they had pretty much surplus of fielders for that reason alone. That's why didn't really make sense. But yeah michael brown would have been a great fit if they had to make these moves because they would have had to. They would have had to get rid of someone. Like laura's correal aranda great it would have taken some work or some moves to make it fit. He could have been more of a d. h. And it just. It was deflating because then a couple of hours after the report that there was no deal because i guess we all had the assumption that they were still working out those last details a couple of hours later. It was revealed that he's going back to the astros so that was just kind of like it was. It was very weird altogether. Something that i don't think i've really ever seen in terms of all these big names reporting assigning and all of a sudden falls apart that quick. So that's why. I founded bizarre Yeah mark it wasn't a great fit from the start you would have had to make moves. It seemed more of something to keep springer happy or to start it off the relationship with george springer good note but the as have other priorities right now and You know the. I guess the only way you can take this in is that the offseason goes on and there's still lots of work to be done prior to the spring but Bizarre he would have been a good fit if yet to make other moves and all around just in conclusion very strange. I'll give that one but very similar. Mike napoli And like it would have been a stretch but it also fits with what we've been hearing from the blue jays this offseason like we. We know that the idea for this offseason was to get whatever pieces are gonna make a big difference and then make your work internally like they were going after. Jt mutoko for whatever reason it didn't make sense if you look at the structure of the blue jays and where their strengths and weaknesses are but it made sense when you think k they want the best guy on the market and they'll do what it takes internally to make it work so when you look at michael brantley. It seemed like the same type of approach. So that's why it didn't seem like something coming out of left field pun intended because it seemed like they were just going to make things work internally and i guess if you stretch it out it could work like i guess you michael brantley in d. h. You can move vladi to third. You could keep rowdy to lies at first and all of a sudden you have a team that works. It just requires a couple extra steps to make it work or trade as we've been mentioning but it is very strange that literally every single reporter was saying this and then all of a sudden we had it starting to be walked back by every single reporter who had said it was happening and it makes me wonder like did all the reporters have the same source on the blue jays. Saying the wrong thing where they all relying on a report from michael branch's agent who is trying to drive the market up and maybe things got lost in translation. Who knows what happened behind the scenes to make this type of false information. Go around and i do feel bad for hazel. May because as we know she's a great reporter for the blue jays. She's been highly reputable over many many years with toronto. So it's just a weird situation overall. But i'm not too bummed out that the jays missed out on on on brantley and we heard i think it was scott mitchell of tsn who said the bluejays people in the front office were bummed out because they missed out on michael brantley. But i don't think that's true. I think you know what we heard. Was i from guys. Like buster only. I think that was the truth. Bluejays were never really involved with michael brantley. They were never that close because it just never made that much sense for them to get him so it was a very weird situation overall. But yeah it's it's not the total disappointment. Okay we'll we'll leave things there for today so thank you to everyone who tuned into this episode of section one. Thirty eight as always. You can follow us on instagram and twitter at section one. Thirty eight pod. You can always reach us on apple podcasts. That just helps for the word about what we're doing here or you can also just tell a friend about our podcast. So thanks for listening. 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MLB The Show 19 Reviews! Roster Update and More!!!

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17:04 min | 1 year ago

MLB The Show 19 Reviews! Roster Update and More!!!

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Join me in the diverse community of podcasters already using anchor that's anchor dot FM slash. Dr I can't wait to your your podcast. Hello and welcome to another episode before the Buzzer Sports. podcast I'm John and this is really going to be a normal episode. Iv I know I've told you many times that we're going to get back on what we normally do which is to episodes. We've except there's been a little bit of technicalities will not technicalities just a little bit of will issues. So anyway we'll be back of. I think this might be the last time. I'll have to say that because we should be back after Sunday. I think it's the day that we start to get open. And then we'll come out with more frequent episodes then will add a new segment called on-deck circle which is basically. They were previewing games from that day for baseball in before the tip. which is doing the same thing for basketball analyzing going through the Games? Who We think's GONNA win? What we think's going to happen in your fancy picks and stuff like that but also we're adding I don't think Allen's GonNa do Alan But we're also also bring back. A couple of guys like Brandon Smith pupils on SPEC- in US on a little bit before the Buzzer. So we're bringing him back for our new segment. And oh I think he's GonNa lead it to. It's called Game Mania so I know that names a little weird except we're going to go with that so each week maybe once once or twice we're just going to review a game so I think the two games were going with our MLB The show in NBA Two K.. Twenty that comes out in two days in the show has been out for a while. So we're just GONNA talk about those games in review it so I'll do your mo the show one one for today but yet in the future. It'll probably just be once a week so we'll be back with another episode. I'll be back right after this advertisement and I'm back so now I'm going to be going over our. We'll be the show stuff I so I don't want to start with the roster update I mean it was not a lot of people really worried about that except I'm just saying this was probably the worst one of the year I mean I know I was on vacation. I was going through my of investments. I got like ten Because I thought he was gone diamond. I got like five Michael Brantley cards. I got a bunch of genes girls. I got a bunch more for got I wasted. Probably I sold my Mike. Piazza occurred in the ninety nine from sickening. I sold that guard for about one hundred fifty K.. I think think I used about thirty to fifty K.. Of that in this roster update no-one diamond and no one went gold I mean. SEM known really cares about Brandon Workman the going up or Miguel said no going up though. Those are the Danny's intended those the only people that actually went up so I don't think anyone really cares about that. We WanNA see jumping to diamond. Michael Bradley had a super long hitting streak he might be one of the most underrated players in the MLB. Maybe even in history in he. I didn't get an upgrade. trae Turner's plan really good. He's helping the nationals. This is why they've been on an onslaught. He didn't get an upgrade. The the only diamond things that happened was degrom plus two. It's Benign Freddy Freeman. Got Better in verse lefties a Bregman got a super upgrade. Verse lefties in his disciplined vision. A- Kunia became a goat. He's now at eighty nine overall and he can hit. He destroys left these in now he has defense Kenley. Jansen went down to eighty five so he might even go down to a golden the next update could tell. Marta went up but otherwise it wasn't a very eventful eventful. Update I think. Sds San Diego Studio's really needs to stop with these rostro says that don't really help anything. I remember this a couple of months ago. This highly anticipated Beta roster update. They said there was going to be over two hundred upgrading. downgrades always like Kumar many get by investments. I'm ready to go on to make to make a profit in in. All they ended up doing was changing people teams in moving Commons up. I mean that's not what you want to see. So why even bother with it. I mean also so like there's a roster update I'm sure next week Next Friday I think that's when the new roster updates coming out not sure but I hope they better do better okay so next. We're going to go through the signature deems. I know a lot of people. Were anticipating this for awhile. Since they released it on the calendar in it looks looks really good. I mean if the if the first thing they're released which is probably going to be the easiest Play with the National League teams. You need to play with the best teams games that you can put together with every National League team you need. So that's fifteen games times three three game so basically you have to play over forty five openings. It's forty five innings but if you're probably going to go to extra or something so I think this is really good. I mean Jason Kendall from the pirate sees a diamond ninety six catcher. I sold Piazza. So I'm looking for a catcher Johnny Bench. The ninety five just can't cover it for me. So Jason Kendall is probably going to be a great addition Ivan completely finished yet. But I'm almost done so I think he's going to be a great addition every team and I can't wait to see what they actually do with this. Because I know there's going to be a lot not better cards coming out all right so next. We have a new battle royale flawless reward in. He is a goat. Chris Chris Sale Ninety nine overall starting pitcher when he was back with the white sox of course used the red sox now any shut down for the season but he was a dominant it was very dominant versus the white sox. So what when he was with the white sox so he has a crazy S- pitching center. All crazy the only the only bat staff is under eighty walked is his home runs per nine. That's eighty one. But he has such good control. You'd have to be terrible pitcher to actually give up home runs with him so so right now. His card is going for four hundred thirty six thousand stubs and I. I'm not buying that. I would rather go twelve noon battle royale to be honest. Is this car if I had this guard I would love this card. I mean he has a bunch of pitches he throws a four seam fastball which which is at like ninety seven ish maybe and he throws a slider that would ninety nine break he throws a two seamer that goes away from a writing eighty. which would be nasty coming from his sidearm motion? And then he throws a circle changeup which would completely baffle a better if they're looking for ninety seven in the end up getting eighty or slower in with this car in his case for nine which is one hundred seventeen in the hits per nine which is a hundred. I don't know how you stop that so next. There is a new event. There hasn't been one for a while since the hall of fame event but they're finally is one it's called the pennant race so so the hit only hitters. You can use our people with eighty plus power versus righties lefties. You can the pictures you can use bronze and comments there three inning games. Of course you can collect the vouchers in ends. Will it ends the first one end soon. So the first reward you can get is a ninety overall. Tommy John Now I know you probably don't know this guy actually had a really good career until a surgery ended. His season will his career so he it was actually good. I mean he goes to different kinds of curve balls he throws. That's the first reward ninety overall Tommy. John so he throws a ninety mile. An Hour sinker occur in eighty curve. Cool in any throat. He can dot with the cutter because he as eighty nine control in ninety three walks per nine he can dot with a cutter and then he has a sweeping curve. That seventy two in seventy six mile an hour change up so if you use zone hitting I would definitely keep my zone low. Because I don't know a lot of pictures that I would throw any curveballs or sweeping curve balls at our high knowing that this game is probably rigged and they do some stuff to try to make you worse to know for sure. Mitt may miss your spot in frank low yard on him or something so the natural word is for the Tommy. John you need collect three vouchers for next one. We have Sergio Romo. He's a ninety three overall closer from Becker when he was with the giants in this cord is crazy crazy. I mean one hundred six hits per nine hundred eight strikeouts per nine ninety eight walks per nine. I don't have this car because no one does. But if you use this card signature teams when you did the giants missions. I mean he pitches so quick. It is helpful when you're in a Russian you WANNA complete your online games. You don't really care because you know you're GONNA win anyway in you're just you're just firing things I mean he. He has ninety nine ranks so slider something. It's really nasty. He's got a four seamer sinker. A change in cutter all of which move all of which can hit any spot you want it to. Would that idiot control in that. Ninety eight walks per nine. He's got ninety nine break his velocities not the best but everything else. Besides the stamina is like about a hundred so next finally at nine nine pennant event vouchers. So no one's going to get that for a couple more weeks. It's the ninety seven highly anticipated Giancarlo or low stanton ninety seven overall Marlin Giancarlo. He's got eighty nine. One Zero Seven conduct a hundred twelve hundred twenty-five five power. I mean now I know. A lot of people are evolved now. So you don't really need a ninety seven but this card you can just throw them on your bench because really if you're looking for a guy if you're looking for a power lefty I mean this might be the third best Cardigan hitting left news. If you really think about it Willie mays in Frank have won twenty five. I have one twenty five dollars lefties. This has won seven one twenty five and he can hit like crazy. The only thing that's really bad as his vision. It's a sixty twenty four but that's okay his discipline's one hundred six is got ninety clutch. He can feel a brazier. He is as gold or silver fielder under in his speed. Sixty two so e can even run decently so the tenant to event is going to have basically silver silver Silver Common Bronze Hitter. So it's going to be difficult. It's going to be pitchers duels even those three inning game on hall of fame difficulty especially you can use your Max team overall all can be eighty in your minimum player can be a sixty three. So no teasing with the knuckleball Orion therapy end in this one. So the pitchers have to have a walks per nine or better or aura. Common in a lot of people probably won't have comments because most signature series pitchers have really good control. I mean there's some aside like Nolan Ryan but if you have like Fergie Jenkins he has the best. He like the only card with over a hundred walks per nine so he can hit dot so this is really going to be a pitchers heavy tournament. I mean event so you might actually go into extra innings if it's GonNa be a pitcher stool so that's something you'd WanNa Watch out for the play. Ah Event Number three. It is live series players only so that should be fun to see. It's that that tournament that event. Might actually we just be a battle of who spends the most stubbs who actually spends money on this game or other than me. Who I've never spent money on the game? I build my my team from the ground up live series. Only you can't cheese with Vera. Bent Sixty three overalls the limit. Your team can be an eighty-three overall and you're gonNA need twani honey Wednesday at the four vouchers. So that's going to be a lot. It's going to be difficult but if you if you're gonNA it's just grind ninety nine so there wasn't new headliners. Pack also introducing using the ninety seven Carlos Gomez in the ninety eight Robinson Canot. Now both guys are really good. But I'd like to point out that the casino might be the best second basement in the game. If you really think about it I mean the only really cygnus. Excuse me the only really significant Second Basement other than this. Ninety eight casino is really Joe Morgan. Joe Morgan's really hard to pitch to. Because he's he's close inside against the plate so you basically you can't throw him inside. So what can you do against him so Robinson no he has a hundred sixteen hundred power contact. Excuse me ninety one. Eighty power so the power is not as ideal as you'd want for ninety eight overall but he can still hit really well his clutches WanNa one in his visions. One thirteen so you can get away with a lot. Projects wins with this guy. He is a diamond fielder in diamond hitter was fifty six. Now you can. You can do some stuff with this guy I mean you if you WanNa just throw wrote. He can't play any other positions. That stinks but if you WANNA throw him on the bench where you WANNA switch him win with Joe Morgan or something. Go ahead and do that. I don't see anything wrong with it. So there's a bunch of new legends in flashbacks with the signature teams moments. So there's three packs but in you're guaranteed a gold. I'm pretty sure one of them. The three of them that I can remember is Saint Louis Cincinnati the dodgers versus the giants in one other one. I can't remember right now except there. Pat In there's your one in ten chance of getting a diamond but it's guaranteed aren't golder plus you can't buy you have to earn it. So there's a new eighty one tyson. Ross eighty of Gherardo. There's an eighty five robb nen end with the hundred and four strikeouts per nine. There's a goaded. Justin bore with eighty five eighty eight power even though he's only a one Eighty one he was in the show eighteen. He was a pretty good flashback. There's eighty one Christian Yelich back from his marlins days. It's not really good though. There's an underarm pitcher. Steve See sheck in eighty overall. Aw there is an eighty seven runs. Oh can that's diamond fielder. But he can't really hit so that's the problem for me. There's an eighty six nate Jones Jones. There is an eighty two goose gossage in eighty one crisanto in eighty. Three cody in eighty three cody Allen. And then there's a couple other you guys like Edwin D as ninety four. That's really good but only has three pitches. There's Roberto soon at eighty six. He looks really good so I can't can't wait to see what happens now. The upcoming schedule will be signature teams in flaws road in the roster update end. The event all came out but tomorrow which is September fifth. San Diego Studios is revealing moments extreme and the August flashbacks including the lightning guy in new content sent drops on Friday. The six. And there's going to be more signature series team stuff revealed so yet tune in six o'clock eastern six ex-pm eastern three PM Pacific in so in the future. There's going to be the seventh inning program releasing in mid September early. October is going to be the postseason program and the eighth inning and then late October. We're going to get ninth-inning finest in maybe we'll even get some extra innings. We've yet to see. 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Is time running out for the Blue Jays? (Ep. 100)

Section 138

47:55 min | 3 months ago

Is time running out for the Blue Jays? (Ep. 100)

"Hello and welcome to episode one hundred of section one thirty eight staking us. I don't know four years to get here but we're finally here as always i'm joined by pricing and jacob power. You guys good thanks. How are you fr- first of all. It's very good to reach the century. Mark it's a pretty big milestone so special episode for sure. And how are you taking great. It's it's it's been a long time coming. It's it's definitely been fun. Well this week we were going to do special episode and then we decided you know. We're kind of rolling with everything happening in free agency. Of course lots of lots of news this week with a couple of guys that the blue jays were interested in signing So we decided just to keep things going. Keep talking 'bout Free agency everything. That's happening with the blue jays so We'll start things off with what we heard. Just a couple hours ago from ken rosenthal. He reported or suggested that the blue jays might be interested in not only signing george springer but also signing michael brantley as well because the two are very strong friends. And we've seen the blue jays interested in springer we've seen them interest in brantley cover ago but we've never seen Both of these rumors kind of intersect in the way they're intersecting now and i mean what do you guys think about the the need for the blue jays to get to outfielders because as it is already we know that the blue jays obviously want an improvement in the outfield. Obviously they have random brisk. They're not happy with. But if they got brantley and springer that would mean taking away at bats taking away playing time from guys like tasker hernandez guys from like lord girl junior maybe if you slide brantley into a designated hitter spot. You're taking away from someone like vladimir guerrero junior depending where he plays whether it's mostly at first base mostly at designated hitter split between the two so it seems like this might be a good idea on paper for the blue jays but it's a little bit flawed in the execution in that it could pose problems on the field. So what do you guys think about this report from. Ken rosenthal yes. I think the same thing that you just said mark this is going to take away time from you know other players whether it be the outfield specifically or you know as designated here i think michael brantley is a good player. Last year he did hit three hundred with a three sixty four basis showing me. He's not a. It's not a bad player by any means. But like you said if first of all i think of george springer or any outfielder comes he's going to take over randall. Grischuk spot and as for that after that. I don't think the blue jays wanted to get rid of tae oscar hernandez order school. Junior me even get rid of them but take away from their playing time. I think the bluejays are set with them. Obviously we've seen grill. Take a lot of improvements this year. He i believe he hit over three hundred for the season. There were many instances where you could see. His defense was improving oskar hernandez arguably had a breakout season this year. So did bluejays want to take away from that. I don't think so. I think they are set with the corner of the outfield. Outfield is where they want to kind of figure out is great. You're going to stay here until the end of his contract traded or are they going to replace him basically and if they are to replace him it would be with one outfielder. They're not gonna. I don't think they have four permanent outfielders that they kind of That they switch between they rotate through an just. Because there's only so many games obviously one hundred sixty two games or whatever the the league wants to do this year. There's there's time to fit them all in but i. I really don't think that that's the right thing to do. Get one outfielder or if you get a second outfielder than one of them has gone. Or like i said maybe a backup slash kind of eight and not necessarily a backup the kind of switch between every other day or they they want. Go kind of matchup say this guy is good against lefties. So he's gonna hit or something like that. But i i don't like that. I wanna see tasker him. And laura guerrilla junior in the corner and michael brantley is a good player. George springer is a good player. But i don't think that they would get both of them. I think it would just be one of them. This is an interesting one because this is kind of the first time i guess the are this offseason. Where other than george springer the the know the normal names talking about Michael brantley is coming into play for this one and the thing with c. Over the past week. I think my opinions a little change a little bit. I'll tell you why With james missing out on some of these names again. I wouldn't be surprised if they go ahead. And do this I think they're getting to the point where they need to do something and they're starting. They're definitely Hearing it from the fans they've been hearing it all off season but especially this week. Liam hendriks goes to the white sox. A player who pretty much visited the jas facility. Somebody who they're obviously very interested in if that's happening. Dj lemay goes back to new york. It was a tough week for them. They miss owning a couple of big names here that you know that they were. They've been interested in all offseason. And you're starting to get to that point now where you're wonder if they may come up empty handed and it was a discussion that we had early in the off season and i pretty much. I remember saying personally that it was a discussion to save closer to the end of the offseason to see how this pans out. And the way it's looking right now it's not looking too good for the jays but they still have some options but the reason why i think that they can easily do. This is for that reason alone that they may be tempted to be aggressive. To make a move and markey were the first one out of all three of mention that possibility that you were worried about. Just the is getting too aggressive. But we were discussing how they could easily be aggressive without going overboard. But you know signing someone like michael brantley first of all. And if you bring in him and george springer to the blue jays then immediately complicates something in. There's no question in my mind than you make another move regardless if it's a trade or you you you do something because the way it looks right now on paper and these were outfielders as well. Who were i guess. Spent time with the jays last season. Who are under contract for this season. You have jonathan davis. Who was the four th outfielder. And he didn't get a chance until late in the season in september and when he played he impressed. And he's somebody that you can't really write off just yet. He would be a decent fourth out fielder option Derek fisher still hanging around. I don't know how much that's going to. You know. I- derek fisher. I've obviously not all of us are sold on but he. There's no way that he cracks the the roster of spring training randall. Grachev laura's gurriel juniarti oscar hernandez those are the big three. And if you bring in george springer that alone without bringing him michael bradley that already crowd something. And there's definitely a move that has to be made and if you bring in him and michael brantley than it's just almost inevitable that you you gotta move somebody. You can't hold on all these players and crowd that That roster with data amount of outfielders but michael brantley is very very good. He was pretty much. You spend majority of his season with our stories with cleveland and the past two years. He's been with the astros and the past couple of years. It seems like he's found an extra gear again is yet a couple of near the end of his cleveland. Days other than twenty seventeen twenty eighteen. He's been an all star Both of those seasons and for the past three seasons two thousand eighteen to twenty nineteen. He was an all star as well but before that there was a few seasons where he i guess dropped off a bit in numbers but his numbers of always been good and when i mean drop off barely and then of course the past couple seasons spent with the houston astros in houston. He's been late soda. he's been phenomenal. He was he was an all star in two thousand nineteen like i mentioned beforehand and last year as well. He played forty six games. He had an eight forty. He was another one. Who put up solid numbers last year. Take away from it. What you want in a sixty game season but it's just consistent to what his career numbers are. And if you bring in michael brantley and spring or that definitely create some problems. But that's why. I do think that if it's possible that the jays could potentially do this because of the reason alone of them being or wanting to be aggressive in free agency just because of these names that they're starting to miss out on and the options are still there. Don't get me wrong but the names are starting to fade very slowly with these players signing elsewhere. Such as lemay. Hugh hendricks and among others. Who jason interested in. Yeah and just to reiterate. Ken rosenthal wasn't reporting this. As like a solidified thing that the bluejays are trying to do he was just kinda bouncing ideas off of people and seeing you know. Could this be a potential for the blue jays and but to what you were saying bracingly. Michael brantley is really good right like the last time he hit below three hundred was a couple years ago in two thousand seventeen and he hit two ninety nine right so he's a really really good hitter guy who's going to be. You know a backup. Outfielder a fourth outfielder. A guy who's may be getting in the lineup d. h. every couple of days michael apprently michael brantley. Who's going to be a starter so it's a little bit weird that the blue jays don't have space firms already. We saw people before when you know. They're originally interested in outfielders like j. b. j. george springer michael brantley people are questioning like Top priority be pitching like you don't have a lot of room In the outfield and let you trade someone ran aggressor which we assume as part of the blue jays locked term plans so to me. It's like you said bryson. You need a trade to make this work already. Getting george springer was a stretch. If you add michael brantley into the equation. There's no way you get out of this without trading randall grischuk. Plus maybe someone like laura's goyal junior or heaven forbid oscar hernandez but even if you're trading one of those guys it's like they just came off of the best season their career right florida's grill junior having three hundred oscar hernandez having a bunch of home runs winning silver slugger award. They just came off amazing season. So i'm not sure. The blue jays are ready to trade them are willing to trade them because of the performance. I just put up so to me. This is a little bit of a stretch to make it work. And i like i said. I don't think it's going to happen. Maybe brazen they do get a little bit too aggressive as we've been saying for the past couple of weeks couple months. Maybe they get nervous. They're scared they're going to miss out on guys. They see this as their opportunity to get a big name. George springer and then a little bit of a bonus in michael brantley but personally. I don't really like this idea see. That's the big thing that i'm noticing. None of us really disagree. That michael brantley or george springer good players. But you know you kind of go back to that old saying if it isn't broke don't fix it. You know the blue jays arguably want to slash should replace randall grischuk. But they don't need to replace anybody else in the outfield as you said more tasker hernandez largest grill junior at some of the best years of their career last year and i think they are solidifying themselves as borderline stars and you know if you want to replace them with a guy that arguably it's still a very good player but it doesn't really make sense because you have already guys that that can take that role and i think that similar to the whole of francisco endure conversation where you know. The blue jays could benefit from him. But they already have guys that can take over that role. Yeah there's it's been. I don't know i don't know how i currently feel. I wanna get your guys updates. Because there was a lot this week. I guess that connects to the blue jays is because of the players. They've been interested in. But i i just. I want to get your thoughts guys on your current optimism forgetting george springer. You know there was the report yesterday that he apparently prefers to play close to where he's from in connecticut and of course new york is closer But it's still based off what we know it. Still going to be the jason the mets though the two front runners for george springer nobody else has kind of stepped in yet. And then there's the dj la- mayhew signing which was very. I found everything weird about it and mark know you wanna your predictions was to kind of snag away and steal them from the yankees and it says it. I don't understand it because even after the contract was or what ever. The reports came out that he stayed. There is another report that said that are showed what the blue jays offered him and really at the end the jays offered him the most amount of money but of course he took more of the term to go back to new york and think findlay's offered it was what seventy million seventy eight million six years. Nine hundred million exactly and that's it just. I don't know if that leaking like does that give you optimism. That proof that jays are really all in with these players especially with the number they offered. Dj lemay who they offered him like. I said the most amount of money but of course it was the term that got him to go back to new york. And george springer i just. I don't know the exact numbers of that. But do you guys like what's the update with your current optimism with these guys because it was pretty tough this week and even to the liam hendriks signing. I know that the jays were interested in him and all but paying him that amount of money for a reliever. Just that doesn't sit well with me. And i'm kinda glad almost set. The jays missed out on that one because of the money he did get from chicago. It was a lot of money. I don't know the exact number but for a reliever it was relatively high and for Dj he's thirty three years old. You know signing him to a six year deal. I don't know how i feel about that as well. I know he is arguably the best in baseball and eventually he will regret especially as he's entering his mid thirties. So that's another thing. Why am not too upset about missing hugh but if you came to the jays with the amount i guess the contract that they offered him i'd be completely fine with it but giving him six years. It's just a little bit of a risk. But i don't want you know i just a lot of fans are like i said are furious with the front office in this week added fuel to the fire. But what's the update with. You guys was springer and the names. Jays missed out on this week. This week was not encouraging at all. I think part of it is at least for myself. I think a lot of fans have kind of forgotten how free agency works like not like obviously the intimate mechanics of it. But like the overarching fact that you just have to overpay for players and especially being in toronto you have to overpay on top of overpaying for players in free agency. I think we've just forgotten that. So i i think the blue jays are being aggressive but i think our appetite in that you know we. We miss out on hendrix. Oh well we didn't wanna give him fifty four million dollars anyway. We miss out on. Dj lemay hugh. And then we say. Oh we didn't want to give him ninety million dollars anyway. Even though the jays offered a higher average annual value to him i. i think we've just forgotten that you have to pay more than these players are worth. These players aren't actually as good as the money. They're getting but in order to woo them over to the blue jays. You have to overpay them. Like i think back to russell martin you know two thousand fourteen signing a five year eighty two million dollar contract like he wasn't worth that much that contract ended up being an albatross after two years with the blue jays. But you have to overpay the players to get them to sign with your team and on top of that you have to overpay them to get them to sign in kendo with blue jays especially this year when you don't know where they're playing so i it's frustrating to see this happen especially when you think oh hendrickson deserve that much. Oh the mayhew didn't deserve much. Oh linda while we didn't want to sign him to a big extension anyways. But i think at least for me. I'm trying to think of it differently. I'm trying to think well you know if you want these players you have to pay that amount of money so yes. I am getting frustrated with the blue jays at this point but again like only eleven of the top forty free agents are off the market. There's still so many guys out there that the blue jays can get and so many of the guys that they're interested right. Only one of the top four is off the market. There's still got real mutola who apparently told me down to the phillies. The blue jays still got trevor bauer. Who apparently blue jays are strong contenders for so yes. I'm frustrated but also. And i. I don't want the blue jays to overpay. So i'm i'm conflicted in where i am in that. You know. I see how much these guys are getting. I'm glad that the blue jays didn't give them that much madonna's same time i'm frustrated the sign them. It's it's the exact same it you know. It's it's unfortunate The fact that the blue jays kind of have a disadvantage being in canada Remember buck martinez. Back in two thousand fourteen remember. The milky cabrera rumours load. Know what's going to happen with him book martinez on a broadcast. Said you know it's tougher because you have to always have your passport and your you know your everything with you because you're constantly going in and out of the country and the blue jays just unfortunately suffered from and obviously a lot of times whenever you hear hockey basketball anything. It's always the tax laws and everything how you're playing in canada and it's just it's it's very different But i'm really conflicted. You know one thing a couple days ago Sit six zero. Put out a tweet. Saying spending fifty four million dollars. Guaranteed on reliever is insane and i agree with it. I mean it. It sucks that the blue jays have to kind of overpay in over convinced guys to come stay in toronto. But it's just kind of you kind of have to draw a line of where is it whereas it. What is the amount. That's kind of too much but also justifiable. Because if you don't spend that much then you don't get the player. But as for kind of guys at the blue jays have been targeting george springer. I am getting a little bit concerned especially with that rumor that he wants to play close to his hometown. I mean new. York is not ridiculously far from toronto. But it still is far you. It's not even just drive to connecticut or you. Can't you know go in and out of the area very quickly. There's still at least a ten plus our drive. If you wanna drive so it's it really is interesting. I think if the mets obviously we talked about this couple of weeks ago where the mets owner is basically said. They're not gonna pursue someone like george springer very heavily but even if they make compatible offer to what. The blue jays did then. I honestly i think george springer might end up going to the mets. And obviously i wanted to come to the jays but at the same time if you look at it the blue jays yes i think will be a very good team this year and yes have a bright future but at the same time if the mets are closer to his hometown you know we saw. That sometimes can be the decision. Obviously you you look back at especially with the nba. The whole leonard situation. He ended up going to los angeles because that was where he was from his hometown. He doesn't want to be. He doesn't wanna live in the bottom of the us and be playing in the bottom candidate. You're you just geographically. Didn't make sense for them. And i think that unfortunately might just kind of it sucks in canada like i said but it just kind of how it goes in as for the blue jay z. And it's just a very unfortunate situation. I think a lot of people through sports and espn all these other reporters. They've always basically said if you want a good team in canada you have to draft you have to trade or overpay and it just kind of is how it is you know you look at the blue jays. Most of their roster is from international signings or signings our draftkings or something in order to kinda not convinced the player but out of their control. You know obviously you can control if you sign with the team that drafted you but at the same time. They've already selected you so it's just unfortunately with free agency. I'm starting to get a little worried. I was very optimistic and the start of it. Even though even you'll go back to the summer. I didn't think we're going to have a very aggressive free agency. But they said they were optimistic that they would do something. But now as we're seeing. Is you know we thought the the yankees we're going to the blue jays we're going to snag. Dj lemay you from the yankees. Well he kind of you know. He ended up. Going back to the yankees. Even though the blue jays comparably offered him a better amount per year. So it's just is unfortunately we're to seal free agency goes. It's definitely a weird situation to be in because like you said mark. I want obviously the blue jays to be a good team and i think that they they do have the money to spend right now but at the same time. At what point do you draw the line. Saying this is an okay amount of money but anything more than that you know. Maybe it gets player. But it's not worth it in terms of you know the bottom line. Well let's create this like if if the blue jays miss out on george springer like what happens then do they just go all in on like trevor bauer or jt. Romeo like i guess. That's why i'm not totally freaking out yet. Because there's still so many other names on the market like i'm not even pitchers like james paxton. Jay z like these guys are still on the market. So that's why i'm like. It's not the end of the world. If they miss out on. George i get like. That's where i'm that's how. I'm trying to convince myself that that's true so that i don't get too disappointed with the news of springer signing with the mets which i honestly if i'm being honest i it kind of feels like it's inevitable at this point. Yeah exactly i'm not. I'm not panicking yet like you said there are. There is still time. I mean it's not like free or it's not like Spring training and whatnot. Starting next week there is time but it is still just a weird situation. I think the blue jays do miss out. On george springer the fans a lot of them will lose their mind on twitter You know people will say how dare you get us all hyped up for this entire off season and then do nothing as for me. I'm not gonna get angry. Like george springer is a great player. I prefer him over randall. Grischuk but if they don't get him. I'm not going to lose my mind over. It obviously would prefer said but it's kind of whatever but in terms of pitching if they don't get them they first of all. They have to get pitcher. I've said this offseason. They need somebody to fifth or third spot in the rotation. They just don't have that. They have high engineer. You they have nate pearson. There have robbie ray somebody that's going to take over the fifth spot which is probably going to be from the bowl truck tenor or to but they they just. They don't have a full rotation or one that i would be confident in to take them to the playoffs or even to the world series. So it's just that they have to sign a pitcher and if they don't then i will be very concerned and honestly question how aggressive where they i mean. Obviously we don't know the inner workings. Trevor bauer on new year's eve. Put out something on social media saying he was a meeting with the blue jays so obviously they're doing things that we don't know about yet but at the end of the day if they don't get some type of starting pitcher then i will definitely consider this offseason to be a failure and i. It's just it doesn't. It doesn't get any worse than that like. I said you need to improve that pitching staff and if you don't then people are going to question whether you are actually serious about it. It's tough because for all of these names. Just it's coming down to the fact that there is a possibility that end up with nothing. And if they don't get george springer it almost feels like the off season would almost be a failure mark. They would have to make up for a lot of it. If you're gonna make other signings. But everything has been prioritized around. George springer that is pretty much who the jason been targeting all season and i guess with missing out on the mayhew. Maybe that focuses more attention on springer now going all in. There's there should be no other distractions. I guess trevor. Bauer is still in there. I'm just. I'm not convinced. Trevor bauer comes. I still think there's a better chance. George springer comes here than trevor bauer. But i appreciate the meetings. They've had and The other thing too is you know. It's it's tough because it's almost like Well it's almost like. I'm almost convinced to this point. Now that in most of these negotiations with these players it that the are almost used as leverage for other teams to it just feels like players are using the jesus leverage and it's disappointing and it's it's really nothing james can do just like where they're from or where george springer prioritizes to play near you. That's absolutely nothing you can do. But that can go for any other market if the player wants to go home regardless of who the market is. That's trying to get him. There's really nothing you can do. The only thing you can do is overpay. And that's not always guaranteed to work but it just it just feels like they're being used for leverage and i'm convinced it as now especially with the dj lemay report last week where. He was frustrated with the yankees. He pretty much flat out. It's almost like his team. Leaked that information to use the jays. Whoever else was interested the dodgers leverage and for the yankees to circle back. And give him what he wanted. In this case it was the extra term on his deal. By what an extra two years. He goes back for the next six years rather than four if he came toronto. And he's making less in new york but he's got his term and clearly that's what he prioritized over. But it's the jews are being used for leverage if feels like at some points and even with george springer who knows how legitimate it is because we haven't really heard much from. I guess george springer himself as as i mentioned digi lemay hughes are that his his agent. Whoever it was his his team leaked the thing about being pressured with the yankees. We haven't really heard anything about that. Anything close to that. Around george springer other than the blue jays and match will be the finalists. And we'll see what happens but when it comes to the fans as well you know that fan if fans were outraged over digital going back to new york. it's i can guarantee it's going to be at least double the anger frustration coming from them. If they don't get george springer and the one thing too is. I guess what this weekend the signings and digital dj lemay hugh and liam hendriks. It's almost like the fans ignore the term in the dollar. It's it's more. It's it feels like it's more than just wanting to sign someone rather than i guess what makes the most sense for paying a reliever x. Amount of dollars and it was fifty four million dollars for liam hendriks. That just doesn't make sense. It feels like fans are more worried about just to be able to say to people or to themselves that they signed somebody. And that's that's where i think they're wrong and for george springer. That's why if if if he goes to the matt's a good scene with the blue jays they're feeling the heat now They've been feeling the heat all winter. But especially this weekend rightfully so but if it's not going to be good for blue jays fans of george springer we've as masada george springer and the offseason would fairly be disappointing regardless of who else you bring in like. You're going to have to add. Start at some point. We know that there's lots of stars available mark. You mentioned some. Of course jake literacy seems to be on the top of their list as well As a starting pitcher and of course trevor bauer. Who's going to be getting a lot of money. Whoever it is So you know it just either way. People are gonna look back and say. We didn't get george springer and that's the problem is it's showed around george springer because of all the momentum. That's been building up since the end of the offseason and maybe get some even more desperate. We'll see but It it definitely has been a little bit of a concerning week in terms of the free agents available or sorry the free agents that have signed but of course there are some names available but that that door is starting to close very fast as we head towards pitchers and catchers report. So we'll see what happens but you know all you can do at this. Point is just hope that they can win over george springer and outbid the mats or pay a more whatever it is each of the blue jays over the mets. That's what you have to hope for this week. Definitely sucked for the blue jays. Like especially after last week when you know we had the news of the franscisco endured be like at least i was hopeful that it would take them out of the equation. To some extent would make things easier for the blue jays. We would see developments either on. Dj mayhew springer. You know all these guys. But it's just gone downhill with two of their target signing so it sucks out. Sorry didn't wanna listening if it's a depressing conversation. 'cause jobs aren't really doing anything right now. And it's frustrating. Let's let's talk about the one thing they did do this week. And that's announcing extension for mark shapiro. Of course we talked about this earlier in the offseason but his original five year contract which was signed in twenty fifteen the offseason in twenty fifteen was expiring so the blue jays re upped gave another five year contract. Not really much to talk about here because it was expected. He's done a good job in developing the team. I'm not only a players on the field but also the infrastructure around the team whether it's you know minor league facilities in dunedin whether it's the high performance department improvements at the rogers centre Talking about a new rogers centre although that's more corporate structure up in rogers and mark spiro. But he's done an admirable job so far as we've said previously on this podcast. It's exciting to see him. Have another five year contract. And i'm excited to see what he can do with blue jays just agreement with you. I personally. I wanted to see this happen. You know we said this a couple of months ago actually. I think one of us predicted that it was. He was going to at least stay for the next five six years. Kind of finish off this This core the blue jays have right now you know kind of take them through their competitive window and overall it's a good move. I'm happy with it. I like mark shapiro. His team So it's it's a good move. Yeah i remember having that conversation. I was mark if not it was jacob. It wasn't me. I know that. I think i predicted around three or four years when you to i think it was mark that said he was going to be around for the at least the next five years but yeah. There's not too much to mention other than i guess. No one's surprise and it was something that came across The blue i guess blue jays news at the beginning of the off season even when the series was still going on that hey merchant powers contract expiring and for those past few months. We haven't really heard much about it. So you had to assume that this deal was agreed. Upon months ago easily could have been signed months ago but it could have been announced this past week when it was and that's why it's not surprising end Ross atkins i believe is with charles toil on this one. I believe their contracts are expiring. Soon i'm not too. I'm not I don't know for sure i know. Charlie montoya's a club option for twenty twenty two. But i do believe ross. Atkins's contract is up At the end of the errors are within the next couple of years. So that'll be interesting to see. But i'm sure he would stick around. But the main priority here is keeping marks power around who obviously the the guy at the top in terms of running this organization and there's lots of things that marked pyros done Spring training facility has been upgraded. Of course the new ballpark has been mentioned in. That seems to be something. That's going to come across. I guess down the line now down the road because of what's been going on with the pandemic but not surprised and I'm happy he's back. I you going through searching for another top. Executive would not be ideal if He's been here. I guess for the next or he was here five years ago. Now he started in two thousand sixteen. Just i wouldn't feel like an ideal situation to be looking for a new president and ceo at this time so good good to know that he's back and not surprised and get george springer please. That's the one thing it'd be great for him to celebrate his new contract by ross atkins him signing george springer. that'd be incredible Hopefully we can pop the champagne at some point over the next few weeks but Let's finish off today's episode by talking about the developments. We've seen around baseball. Of course there was uncertainty over when spring training was going to start when the season would start what it was going to look like but it seems now that everything is on track for a regular start of spring training and the season. I'm rob manfred sending memos all the team. Saying basically yeah. Prepare to start on time. That's what we're playing for right now. Za looks like it's going to be pretty similar season to what we had last year in multiple respects because major league baseball also planning to return to seven inning doubleheaders and starting each inning with a runner on second base in the twenty twenty one season this was of originally designed for last year when we had the condense schedule when we had a lot of pressure on teams to through sixty games two months to ride through. Get your pictures through it. I do not like this returning for full regular season. I think last year things could be changed. We're living through unprecedented times and seven innings for a doubleheader shirt and the games as fast as you can sure but doing this in a regular season i do not like at all. I don't think it benefits really anyone. I don't think it's a positive in any respect. I'm not happy with major league. Baseball's inclination to do this. Who knows whether it actually happens but the fact that the reason discussing it. i'm not happy with. I'm going to be completely honest. I don't mind the seven inning doubleheaders just from from the side of eighteen innings for me. Personally i don't know about everybody but eighteen innings in one day is a lot to watch and i like to watch but that's baseball. Baseball has nine innings. I don't know it's just one game if it's a two three hour game i'm perfectly fine with and i enjoy it but no even last year you know if it was the summer and i'm too busy with all the restrictions but you know normally say there's a game on at one pm and then they also play it for from one to seven. Pm there's gotta be a time where i'll have something to do and i can't watch the entire game and obviously th that's different for everybody but i'll just be honest. I don't mind it. I mean if they go with seven inning doubleheaders nine inning doubleheaders than you know all all support. And i'll be happy with whatever decision but seven innings. I don't i don't mind it. The only thing that i don't like is the fact that the the extra inning rules have kind of continued we. We didn't see that in the playoffs. Which was my biggest concern last year. from the regular season into the playoffs. And i'll be honest. I don't like the decision carrying over. I don't mind a runner on one of the bases. I think mark mentioned. I think the season just started. You said something. Like instead of having a runner at second base starting in the tenth inning and then every inning going forward it was just like that until someone scoring one instead of that they would have run first base starting in the twelfth inning. Which to be completely honest. I prefer that if if that has to stay then or if a runner has to stay on base they choose to integrate that into the league permanently. Then that's how. I would prefer it to be but i don't like second base in the tenth inning because like i said last year if you're a pitcher you come in to the to the game in the tenth inning. You could give up to fly balls and you still lose the game to fly ball outs and you lose the game. And i don't like that. It's just i understand wanting to make the games more interesting and increase the pace of play. I mean i'll say for sure. I was on the edge of my seat the entire the entirety of every extra inning that the blue jays played and really even any watching around the league throughout the season. But i just don't like it continuing. I said this last year also imagine if instead of having a runner on second base. You just had two outs so you you know you get two outs. And then it's the other raining you know that. Sounds like a really very bad idea. And that's just kind of the way. I see it and it's just overall i would like to see the game. Stay the same you know. Don't try to change too much. Worse case. have a runner on first base in the twelfth inning. But for the most ambitious it's just questionable why they wanted to keep it jacob. I'm with you on the double headers. I'm with you on the doubleheaders. Obviously eighteen innings is tough to watch by feel like eighteen innings for the players is enough. Or that's even more tough for them to play his very rarely. Do see veterans play both games so it definitely seems like something. The players enjoyed and mark. I'm sorry but i just either either way though. Let me just point this out either way. It doesn't really affect me too much. If they play like i'll. I can tolerate eighteen innings. I know most people are. Some people. Can't but i can seven innings. It doesn't bother me too much. And when it comes to the runner on second base that one. I'm not totally against. I don't know why i just i. I enjoyed some of these rule changes. But here's the other thing. I would like to tweak it a market. You're the one who came up with the ideas. Jacob pointed out. I would like ten Maybe one inning or two innings regular extra innings and then if it keeps piling on then you go to the rule where you start at second base or whatever it is and jacob. You're saying how you can potentially win a game. Getting to fly ball or a pitcher can lose a game. Sorry getting to fly. Ball outs The only thing. I can argue against. That is the other team as the exact same opportunity as you. So it's it's a level even playing field regardless but it's I i look at this kind of like the sugar hockey you can start with overtime and then as As a piles on you can go to the shootout or you can go to the runner on second base. And of course. The playoffs started to shoot outs avoided you go continuous overtime. In baseball you go. Continuous extra innings. So i like that idea but it doesn't look like they're going to go along with that They're just gonna start the tenth inning off with the run second base. Which that. If that's the case then i don't agree with it but i i kind of like the idea and hopefully one day. Progress trend awards that In terms of that. But there's other changes that are still in negotiations university age which i guess players to return. But they're still. They still have to work that out with the The owners and the players and that would be first of. I really enjoyed the university as well in two thousand twenty. I don't know about you too. I think marquis were kind of more against it. I know jacob you like that. I'm pretty sure and of course. There's the expanded playoffs doesn't look like they're going to do. Sixteen teams like they did in twenty twenty but they would probably fourteen teams and of course that is more than the traditional ten times in a regular season. so anything expanded. i'll take i think sixteen teams was was a little bit too much but it was acceptable in twenty twenty and in a full season in twenty twenty one. I think fourteen teams would be the perfect amount To expand the playoffs. And i really enjoyed how they handle the playoffs in terms of how they did the wildcard series instead of a wild card game and things like that it just the only thing hopefully that they don't do again as a bubble playing in the home stadium should hopefully as the priority but yeah the extra innings rules. I'm not totally surprised that they were here to stay. You had a feeling that as much as they would quoted saying this is only experimental or only to increase the pace of play in a season. Twenty twenty two you know. Get the players out of the ballpark as soon as possible. You just had that feeling that it wasn't going to go away just like that and it was here to stay at some particular point or whatever it just It's not surprising at all but the the the extra innings is a little bit I think they still gotta work on that. I don't totally agree with it. But the double headers. I'm all for it and either way. If they wanted to go back to. I'd be all for it as well. That one just doesn't really affect me too much. But yeah i know market field other choice. Yeah i think i'm the opposite. The runner on second fine with i think you kinda worked and of course like i enjoy long baseball game so i'm a baseball fan but at the same time like i think it it solves some problems with the game. I think it's fine but the seven inning thing is where i'm i just hate the idea of shutting off a baseball game after seven innings. That's not what baseball is. I feel like it's it's completely Perpendicular to what the baseball is supposed to be. And i'm worried that like. I guess i'm fine with it in a pandemic situation but when you start when you move it into twenty twenty one when you have it in two thousand twenty one in a full season of one sixty two games if feels like this rules never going away like. It's going to be a permanent thing which i do not want so. Yeah that's why like expand postseason. Yeah i liked that. I wasn't i didn't like it at the beginning of the season but i've been a convert. Same thing with universal d. h. I don't think it really bothers me either way. Although i think the league should make a decision on that so teams left aren't left stranded knowing not knowing whether there's going to be a d. h. Or not it's the seventh inning thing for me. That just really bothers me and i don't know why it's just something i really don't like one of the things i had to get used to it even late into september whenever the blues play i remember one of the first couple times i did it. I i think it was against the phillies. They played one of the games or and then in the second game i think they went on a big run in the sixth inning and they scored like three or four runs and then the seventh inning happened and i was like all right now time for the eighth and then i see all the guys walking onto the field and it's over so head to head to get used to it but i don't know it's it's okay. I guess it's it's still baseball. I guess at the end of the day. If i want to see well i want to know kind of widely. Do i know you wanna speed it up. But i don't think like i don't. I don't think speeding up solves any problems with baseball. Like if you look at the actual time of games for the nba nfl. I think it's pretty similar to baseball. It's just like the action like in baseball. There's not that much action. Compared to others. For so i don't think like making the games shorter solves that problem. It it's still. It's like you're still getting the same out of action in the time that you have the game's going on so i think they need to make thirty speed up video. Replay speed up mound visits. Maybe the pitching clock and actually enforce those rules. But i don't think cutting off two innings at the end really solves that problem at all. Exactly that's the big thing. Like one of the one of the biggest problems with baseball. And i watch a couple of other sports and the biggest difference between people that are maybe not necessarily a fan of hockey or not a fan of basketball. That still watch the game. You know even if it's just for a social event and that's all they can really do is it's still entertaining whereas with baseball you kind of have to have an appreciation for it just because there is so much downtime in between action and maybe two innings off. It's kind of weird. It's like they're condensing it. But at the same time you're not necessarily condensing the time with our inbetween everything that actually goes on and you could still wait. Thirty seconds between pitches or potentially two innings per two minutes per inning. It's not necessarily actually condensing the actual pace of play condensing the actual time. It's kind of a weird thing. But overall i think one thing that i will say is about the playoffs. The rule change. I think that had to stand. I think we all kind of knew it was going to stay. Sixteen teams is a little too much. I mean personally. I'm really honest. I like sixteen teams the nhl in the nba. Both do that and it's entertaining. I think it's really great to watch. But if you know some people say that it's kind of a participation metal. You were a bit over five hundred therefore you can make the playoffs and have a shot at the world series. Okay fair enough. I mean i'm just happy to play offs or expanded. I cannot. I could not stand how if you happen to be in a division like the blue jays where the tampa bay rays who went to the world series and the new york yankees who also made the playoffs you know. They might have missed out on the playoffs this year just because they were in a very good division. I think there has to be some kind of realignment to where your actual five team. Division doesn't essentially determine whether you make the playoffs or not just because of how good the other teams are. Baseball is on the right track for. I guess speeding up somehow without completely ruining the game. And i think the amount of mound visits needs to be limited and you know people argue that there shouldn't even be pitching coaches going to the mound and if that would be something that would bother me either but anyways i do think they're on the right track and i mean there's people that agree with you mark on how it should not be. I guess speeding it up. We'll fix the game. And unfortunately are i. Guess the most respected commissioner. All sports rob manfred feels otherwise and i just want to say to the fact that rob manfred came out and said that spring training on time one hundred sixty two games on time. That is probably the best thing he's ever done like it's a rare win for him and a lot of people were saying how like is manfred. Okay like it's it's very weird for rob manfred do something that good because we need. There's no reason not to do one hundred and sixty two games We've we've discussed everything about obviously the attendance everything like that. But if at protocols were put in place then you play hundred and sixty two games. That's that's the way it should be working for that reason. And just the one thing doubleheaders. Hopefully the while the one thing too is we were. We were introduced to a lot of doubleheaders this year and previously before the pandemic it was more own. It was more that double headers only showed up because of rain or whatever weather and in this case or in two thousand twenty obviously the Obviously covid players testing positive. That happened a lot but closer to the end of the season it feels like the mlb got on track in terms of being able to finish games properly less and less just so you can only hope in twenty twenty one. If you like this ruler. Not about the i guess the extra innings role. Hopefully that there's not as much doubleheaders we saw in twenty. That's just something to i guess. Pay attention to. Because i guess you can't rule it out. It just doesn't feel like it's. It's likely that you're gonna see as many double headers which is a good thing. You want. Games to be played regularly scheduled. Interesting rule changes and I'm just happy that as of now baseball is ago for a full season and a full spring training. Alright we'll leave it there. Thank you to everyone who listened to this episode. 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Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

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"Baseball tonight the PODCAST. This is the baseball tonight podcast for Wednesday July tenth two thousand nineteen. I'm buster only back in Bristol's Toy Farkas. I'm at the Cleveland Airport this morning so if your background noise yes that's what that's all about the noise at progressive field last night in Cleveland before the All Star Game Michael Brantley when he was introduced former Indian now of course with the Houston Astros got an absolutely huge cheer. There was a moment moment of silence before the game for Tyler skaggs the former angels pitcher who passed away last Monday. Tommy Lee Stella Might Trout Allstars for the American League played in Skaggs is number forty five when the game started Michael Brantley did damage for the American League wanted all manner I two down the pitch slammed the ball ripped out towards left center field and that one is touchdown and up against the wall racing towards third is brexit. They're going to send him. Here's the floated a plane on a balance. It's too late recommend scampers across its R._B._I.. Double One astro knocks in the other brantley scores Bregman one to nothing American league and you could hear the depth of the cheers cheers. There is the fans in Cleveland Charon for Michael Brantley Buksh Avi with that call the legend on E._S._p._N.. Radio when we met with Alli score before the game he of course the manager of the American League in this game he laid out his pitching plans and I was a little bit surprised prized here ashamed who's GonNa Pitch because after all he was only added to the All star team about five days ago when the top of the fifth inning this is what he did the Uber delivers strikes out the side of France Logan. I love it. Beaver just got the baseball toss to a pretty cool gets it amazing hand as he walks off the Terry Francona pumping his fist he loved it. Chris singleton joining it with Google Shane beaver was all pumped up the crowd was all pumped really cool moment in the bottom of the fifth inning the American League added on set deals swing and a bouncer right side knocked down by Muncie goes to pick it up. Throw the first safe at first run comes into score and it's up to nothing and after the fifth inning <hes> the stand up to cancer moment happen. We're all the players all the folks at the ballpark stand up and hold up signs commemorating someone that they know as cancer someone that they lost a cancer and during that time all the members who are in the All star team who were the Cleveland Indians one out and stood alongside Carlos Carrasco of course recently announced that he has leukaemia it was a touching moment at Terry Francona there yet Shane Bieber Francisco Indoor Carlos Santana each one of them giving him a hug at the end of that moment moment in the top of the sixth inning Charlie Blackmon Dixon Damage Edrich sets and fires swag and a high fly ball out towards center field narrow field back at the wall EP Charlie Black Biddle touchable touchable and the National League within Iran black men with a solo homer. It's a two one game the American League John and Troy Farkas every time I see Charlie black men person it always surprises says me how big is because he played centerfield and all those years. You don't think center field is being really big is man he's big and he showed a lot of power and that's why I was surprised to see that that was his first career hit. He had been over nine the All Star game prior to that. That's pretty cool. I didn't realize that either until you just told me right now so he's got one in the books a run in the books. The National League had a run in the books and Max Muncie helped to keep the nationally close in the bottom of the Sixth Round Ball David League stamina right side throat. I pick it I I WANNA pick by Alonzo and an absolutely spectacular play it shallow right center field by Max Muncie. They stole a hit from Santana. Wow I talked to an evaluator recently about Max Muncie and he talked about how much he loved watching play because this guy's a ball player doesn't care where he's playing. He's always prepared. He's always he's in the moment making plays like he did write their bottom of the seventh inning. The American league had a three to one lead Troy Farkas his Guy Joey Galloway was at the Plate Smith the lefty fire field where back there and the absolute bullet off the bat the Joey Gallo Dave Roberts matches up the Joey Gallo says left on left not gonNA bother me A._l.. ADDS another and it is now Ford or at a one and that was a screamer yeah and that's after will Smith left-hander from the San Francisco giants and broadly Game Troy you man Joey Gallo hit in a rocket out here representing. It's what we do. In the All Star game foster the top of the eighth inning the nationally threatened they loaded the bases. Guess who's coming to the plate pita lots of course on Monday on the home run Derby and the one to swing a line drive one hot it gets passed torres out of the left-center one-run is in racing around a score is Dow two runs around at it's a one run game a bullet out there to center the Torres couldn't come up with Alonzo Jackson too and it's four three are- American league but that would be all the scoring for the nationally in the top of the eighth and by the way I thought it was absolute. Surprise at Pete Alonso didn't hit a grand slam because that's the way he's rolling right now but the American league clung to that lead going into the ninth inning that allowed a role chapman to come on to attempt to save with two outs C._C.. Sobat the WHO of course has been honored in the All star events here <hes> went out to the mound to have a visit to talk to chat and you're going to hear from C._D._C. later in the podcast <hes> but then when he went back to the dugout here's chapin trying to get the final out. HERE'S A to swing out is the ball game and the American league. He just wanted again four three. The final score at the American League is now won seven in a row chapman closes it out by striking out the side and there are some times when the M._v._p.. The Guy who's going to be the M._V._p.. is obvious to everybody but in this game starting about the seventh inning I started to have conversations with Justin where our producer about hey who who's going to be the M._v._p.. And were running through some names and I wondered if they would give it to Bieber because he's the hometown guy he had that great moment in the fifth inning striking out the side. We wondered troy if your Mantra Joey gala would be the M._v._p.. That's I know some people were selecting him but in the end Shane Bieber's the Guy Hi who gets the truck out on the field after the game he was quite touch. You could see how moved he was and he picked the big red truck. I caught up with Shane Bieber after he was presented that in the post game ceremonies at Shane what a day for. You tell me when you find out you were actually going to pitch in this game yesterday. <hes> yesterday Alex kind of called me over and it was like hey you good to go. I said absolutely <hes> my name's call. I'm going to go out there and just try and get three outs and get through it. Because <hes> waking up this morning felt like my debut. All over again was pretty nervous trouble putting food down and all that but <hes> you know like I kind of mentioned earlier my teammates just kind of lean on them asking them like what Kinda do where to go for everything because it is a whirlwind and there's a lot to do in the past few days but on you know kind of just took it all in that's what they told me to do just cherish every moment and <hes> this is this is a special one for sure it was like to run out of the bullpen to pitch in the All Star game as amazing <hes> it was surreal. I kinda allowed myself to take it all in and look around on and it's an amazing thing to do general but especially in front of the home crowd and the way they kinda backed me during that thinning was was pretty special and I like I said I allowed myself to take it in and kind of step off the back of the mound and <hes> it was it was a definitely a special moment for me. You finish the inning your manager Terry Francona going crazy in the dugout. You've probably were aware that yeah well. He told me after he was like <hes> beams I couldn't breathe. I can really new pitch and I said well neither could I so that makes sense <hes> but he's he's awesome just to have his support keeps keeps everything fine and keeps everything fun like I said and keeps the love going every day and while also holding us accountable so it didn't really ask for a better manager to have another cool moment for you after you pick the Red Ed truck called your family over big hugs your dad's fighting back tears. What was that like? It's amazing <hes> just thinking about you know where we've been last four years and <hes> just having their support through everything kind of taking a leap of faith and and being a preferred walk on in college and then ended up getting drafted three years later and then two years after that we're here so <hes> hasn't totally hit me yet but <hes> just seeing them kind one of emotions and organ enjoy it in that last answer Shane Bieber fighting back tears marketshare at Tim Kirch in were on baseball tonight with Karl rabbits talking about the incredible streak for the American League. This is seven straight straight wins. They dominated the All Star game over the last two and a half decades dominance things a little odd. I don't quite understand how you just win. Seven in a row by mistake you're GONNA lose one. Yeah I mean there's no way the nationally comes in there and looks at the talent in their rooms like hey you. They're better than US over there. That's just not what's happening. I think it's just kind of a lucky run for the American league and you're seven and rose a lot what you make the game well. The game was really well played. All we've been talking about. Lately is all we get is home runs and strikeouts nothing in between we got defense tonight. We got hitters looking to put the ball in play whitmire field was in the dugout saying nobody wants to walk tonight. We had pitcher saying go ahead. Try to hit this challenging someone so we had a little bit of everything tonight and it didn't take take four hours to play. This is the way the game is supposed to help you bring guys out ver- lander you see Barrios stuff. I mean the pitching tonight. Bieber another was unbelievable breaking balls at burland through to Freddy Freeman. WHO's one of the best pure hitters hitters in baseball were absolutely nasty and you had a lot of good options of who you could have started this game for the American League? Justin verlander was the right choice and I I was in that American League dugout and there were smiles all the way through the whole game. They actually enjoyed this oh to the N._F._l.. Guys that's what we're supposed to be doing. The All Star game cool story about chain Bieber cool moments over the days in Cleveland and Justin Berlinger was called into the principal's office. Let's get to it Bob. Nightingale covers baseball all for U._S._A.. Today and Imbaba Registry today about the cool event that we saw here in Cleveland. I thought the city Cleveland phenomenal job. It was a a lot of heart warming moments. What were your favorite moments during the days here her at the all-star vents yeah I mean I think yesterday nothing in a game stood out but certainly when Mike Trout and timeless Sela come out wearing forty five you know tyler skaggs number? <hes> you know Frank Robinson Trivia game started you know <hes> Michael Brantley in that tub all the fans going crazy Carlos Carrasco coming out but the stand up for cancer in Tabatha ending the night with going to the pound so I thought I thought it was the evening in it was fun just irregular baseball for once yeah no doubt agree that Carlos Carrasco moment when he's standing there with his teammates that was moving <hes> love the energy of the fans at the ballpark. I talked to the PODCAST cash yesterday. How the one thing was is that after the Jack Petersen and vladi junior epic showdown semifinal Cleveland fans are so into it in that round that it was almost like that they like the rest of us ran out of energy which is really cool well? They were worn out from that and I gotta say this to. I thought about this. I was taking my cab to the airport this morning my God have you seen a cleaner city than Cleveland. I it was spectacular how great the downtown Cleveland Looks No. You're absolutely right. They did a fantastic job. Say What I always love the All Star Games. We're in small markets. <hes> you know the one that fits ninety years ago you know Minneapolis they were terrific and I thought Cleveland did a wonderful wonderful job. <hes> you could sell to those fans are so proud of their team and hey teams back from the dead just five and a half out but everybody talked to raved about. What a great job if the Cleveland Yeah I'm biased because my daughter goes to college here but I love coming to Cleveland and the fans as you mentioned there so cool now? You and I were covering the event. I was on E._S._P._N.. Radio you up in the press box. We didn't get to to watch the Fox broadcast so I'm GonNa Bring Troy Farkas in here. It is clear that there was a lot of chatter on social media about the the by play in the way Fox's had had miked up a bunch of players the best example being Freddy Freeman batted in the first inning and he's facing Justin verlander who oh he told he was gonna hit a home run off of an invert lander keeps throwing these nasty breaking balls on the corner. When I talked to <hes> Freddie after his Advani said <hes> he got venue of it right after my God he put it on the black every time and date might up Christian Yelich cody bellinger and other guys troy? What was the experience watching on TV so I love the idea and I get what baseball is trying to do here but I think it actually detracts from what the players are trying to do? I mean Freddy Freeman struck yeah because his attention is diverted because you're trying to be entertained for the fans and you're also trying to play baseball so I like hearing from them. I get why we're doing it but I don't think it really works as well as we wanted to really see I feel like and I don't Bob. I don't know if you agree with me. I I think this is such a routine thing for them. You know when I stand next to a batting cage you'll hear running conversations between players whether taking swings in guys outside. I don't think it's that much of a distraction. You know when Christian Yelich pursued a a fly I ball. I talked to him about it afterwards. I said Hey you know <hes> d did you narrate your catchy said I tried to I. I don't think it's that much of a factor Bob. What do you think I don't remember a guy being mocked Epoca plate before you know catchers to hitter so I remember talking to Berlin last night after the game or after it came out and he said he didn't even know there was might so we got a kick out of it and he kept saying hey swing the bat swing a bat in <hes> so they had a good good natured banter about it from? Reminders Dan. I think that was the best give and take on the night with the guys that right up yeah Freddie. <hes> told me he said I didn't have a chance to swing the bat because he got nothing but nasty breaking balls all right the conversation. Is You know before the game continued to be the baseball. Here's Rob Manfred addressing the accusation that the ball's juiced. We've tried to be completely transparent about the ball. When there was the spur I bike in home runs? We got an independent group of scientists the study the manufacturing process to study the ball. Tell us exactly what was going on. They finish their report. We made it public and then when this year you know Kinda started up again with the home run rate and you know we said publicly we know the ball has plus drag. We need to get better at managing the way the ball's GonNa perform in advance of the season and making it a little consider a little more consistent and of course part of the reason why he was answering questions about the ball yesterday and that was on Sportscenter with Carl Ravitch Davidge was that <hes> Justin verlander and Monday talked about the baseball's being effing joke and as you know Bob Verlinden was called into a meeting with major league baseball officials Joe Torry Jim Leyland before the all-star game aim before he went out to start Berliner of course used to play for Leland. I talked to people around baseball yesterday and they were furious with ver- lander because you know what the feedback I got on the on the team. Management Side Bob was that's a serious is charged essentially saying the broad Manfred violated the C._B._A.. And put <hes> Major League teams at tremendous risk <hes> a grievance because they're of course have to run past any substantive changes with the playing in conditions with the baseball pass the players association before they were to do anything and in fact you know before yesterday's game <hes> we went in to meet with the individual managers and while we're waiting for Dave Roberts Max Scherzer was in a spirited conversation. Dan Halen <hes> in the nationally clubhouse about the baseballs and I I didn't hear every word but you could tell that he's very passionate conversation. So people on baseball side were upset with ver- lander Burland of course has his perspective. What's your take on all this? I was surprised such an outcry over just because there's been saying this all year and so has about every other pitcher <hes> you know a lot of them have come out publicly but privately saying thought M._l._b.. Did purpose purpose generate more offense everything else people are the home runs. <hes> you get more attendance that sort of thing so I was surprised you know maybe maybe the profanity or you know maybe because he did it the day before the All Star game but I was surprised appraised at the outcry pitches have been talking about this all season long. Now you were one of the first to raise the specter of steroids back in the mid nineties and that's why when you wrote an article on Monday talking talking about P._d.'s really caught my attention because I I hear similar things to what you wrote about on Monday that there are a lot of people in baseball wondering are P._D.'s coming back into the game are and I think the answer is obviously yes. I mean every every year we get players who were caught but there is I think a question as players is executives as agents look around at the various bodies. They wonder if there's more of this going on now than we realized yes yeah I I think because it's so hard to get caught him back. In the day. The nineties no testing so guys just taking a big in entomology steroids anything else. Now guys are being smarter about it checking this fast acting testosterone like Victor. Davis boogie said you know you you take this stuff after games. It's all your system and the next day is your least blow it up four to one ratio so just getting the energy boost so we're not seeing guys hitting you know. Seventy home runs but we're seeing more guys at forty home runs than ever before. <hes> you know you see a bus or where these guys you know light. Hitting middle infielders are going opposite feel very thick and about what is going on here. It's not it's not all of baseball and that's why I think there's a variety of factors that are contributing to the spike in home runs whether it's the approach of the hitters more velocity in terms of the pictures that are being used used. Maybe P._D.'s and certainly baseball having something to do with it right <hes> Rob Manfred also talked with Carl ravitch about the possible restructuring of the financial system. Everyone's been wondering if baseball could develop a financial system like the the N._B._A.. And like all the excitement they have when they have their transactions. Give listen. I think we're GONNA have some conversations with the M._l._b.. About changes in the free agency area meet the N._B._A.. Has a whole system that produces is that flurry of activity minimum payroll a maximum payroll. Everybody has to be in the range. You have limits on how big the contracts are so everybody knows what the price of poker is. We don't have that system right now and as a result the market takes a little longer under to play out but you know ideally would be great if we went to the winter meetings and we had six days in a row participate great for you great for us and yesterday the Union chief Tony Clark came out and he talked about how baseball's done a poor four job of marketing Red Sox outfielder Mookie Betts the quote from Tony Clark Monkey should be a household name. mookie should be a one name guy you say Rinaldo you say messy you say mookie you should know who mookie is and outside of the baseball world I don't know how many do you look. I think it's a fair point by Tony but again I go back to get into the room. Get in and start talking they for example we heard in in March that they had agreed to begin talking and then they had a meeting recently to talk about out there meetings and when they're going to talk it's just two and a half years into this and how many years of free agency have been affected by the fact that they haven't negotiated changes. You want the two sides who have a lot of things to talk about actually start it coming together and sustainably talking. I don't know if they actually will once they get in the same room. What do you think yeah this is about as angry as seen? The players are openly talking about Shrek. Someday you know obviously it's not gonna be this year next year. Maybe two thousand in twenty one but the players biggest complaint really is just a competitive balance. You know what five teams based lose one hundred games. I think there's what seven or eight games that are separate teams or twenty games back so you know and so the agency if you have all thirty teams front a win. It should speed up free agency rather than just a few teams doing it J._D.. Martinez talked about his thing. It was like a semi net myer because teams that need a power hitting bat just winning plucked talk cheaper guys off rebuilding teams so they didn't have to spend a hundred million dollars to get a look out to get a guy like Martinez so when we have events like this you know whether it's the winter meetings or at the All Star game at the world series you hear hear both sides talk about yeah we we're GONNA get into room. We love to talk and we love to get things done. My level of confidence <hes> scale one to ten that they're actually going to make changes in the middle of this agreement is probably at about zero. Point to what about you maybe zero point four but yeah you're right. I mean it wasn't like the owners went to the players all those years and said Oh man. I can't believe all that money we're spending here. Can we redo it of course not so you know the you know. The owners had the upper hand. <hes> you know things are going great for them and I don't see what they give up in. Return actually can talk about it but you know I I don't see them. Just reopen negotiations in fan all by the way we're going to change the whole economic system you know they might tinker with a couple of things but that's it all right during the All star break a lot of players have time off but as you know baseball executives don't the it seems like the trade action is really beginning to kick off. We have three weeks before the trade deadline. I talked with a bunch of teams. The last couple of days and what I'm hearing is is that it's going to be an absolute flurry in the last seven to ten days <hes> Um you know some of the specific things that I've heard in the last forty eight hours at the Tampa Bay rays are expected to be very active. Try to bolster their chances <hes> to make the playoffs and maybe give the Yankees a run for the American League East. I've heard that the mets have in fact in earnest indicated dated other teams. Yes we're ready to talk about Zack Wheeler they've got other stuff that may not be <hes> they may not be willing to talk about like you know possibly trading Noah syndergaard possibly talking about it end Wendy as <hes> and I think the National League central teams are trying to figure out exactly what to do <hes> I would expect. You're GONNA see Marcus stroman move before the deadline. You'RE GONNA see Madison Bumgarner move before the deadline and the Cleveland Indians are very interesting as we talked about the last couple of days in the PODCAST <hes> because because they've got some really marketable players and on the other hand. They've been moving back into the race. What are some of the things you're hearing bob well yeah? I'm thinking of the <hes> you know a lot of activity but I'm not sure you know. I thought it'd be less than we imagined because like you said the Cleveland Indians on the race I was talking to Brad Hand and you know they can't trade you now. You might as well for the stadium so <hes> they're back in the race to Washington. Nationals are back in the race so <hes> yeah I just don't know how many how many teams are or how many guys get available for for teams grab. I'm with you on the raise. I think brea makes a ton of sense for them at the white actually do give up a Braille. I think the giants don't have all the pieces people want <hes> they may get more for will Smith and then we'll method but I'm also got twenty watching out there too so I I think that'd be you know three or four guys. <hes> you know Kansas City's got about twelve or thirteen guys available but you know except for Mary infield repealed you know and he's not a Bill I. I'm not sure you got anybody. Difference Maker Right Bob Will Save Your Voice. I know when you go to these events. You basically don't sleep. Cause you working so hard. I appreciate the time thanks for doing. This served my pleasure thank you better. We'll be back in a moment in here from C._C.. 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If you're a fuel rewards member you'll automatically receive one entry every time you fill up eight gallons or more and if you choose new Shell v Power Nitro plus premium gasoline you'll you'll get four entries not a member download the fuel rewards APP or go to fuel rewards dot com slash win to join in engines that continuously Shell v Power Nitro plus premium gasoline no purchase necessary sairy promotion in September one two thousand nineteen see official rules at fuel rewards dot com slash win for how to enter by mail and all details after the game. I got a chance to talk with C._C.'s about the about his all star in our experience. Tell me about the conversation on the mound when he went out in the ninth inning. What did you say what kind of response to get all this is? He was good <hes> he's. He seemed to be throwing his slider. Goods make sure he was all right and <hes> when I came back in the first like we've Olivia homer but it worked out so tell me how did that idea come up. When did they tell you you're going to go out and make that mound? Visit Allison was like hey becomes here. You want to go on a visit but I get out there. I'm super nervous like coach or or manager I am I am I threw out the opening pitch. It was the slowest Patriot thrown in your whole life. Tell me about that Supernova and then it was just a lot of fun behalf sandy out here and you know have the fans <hes> receiving the way they did and you know just a whole week. It's been great. The Komo be welcomed me my family and let us enjoy this all star game. It's been unbelievable. Here's Francisco Indoor after the All Star game talking about the night. TISCO indoor courts the hometown kid here. What was his experience like having the All Star game here it was beautiful? It was awesome news. <hes> a special moment a dream come true play at home and once again the Cleveland they show they show they amazing event so thank you everybody I came. Support is the best response from Michael Brantley. When he goes introduced? They go small weights. People love Mike around the how much I love him. You're almost respective. It makes me happy because I respect him all right. What was the conversation on the mound? C SOBAT got out there in the night bidding. You look good doing it and you know everybody must respect to C._C.. He did it for a very long time. He's still doing and we all looked up to respect the law and <hes> he's a hall of Famer last one. What is the American League? Keep winning these things we will allow you gotTa Win Francisco. Thanks before we speak with Hembo. 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That's Promo Code B._U._S._T._e._R. for ten dollars off your first seatgeek purchase seekie lifestyle event. We have the tickets jumping into the numbers matthew evaluating millions of leases a daily the Cincinnati by two hundred points nine. This is heaven Bono's ammo of Courses Paulin Bikinis. WHO's a bigwig on the show? Get up Hembo. How you doing today Good Morning Buster I I'm glad to? Be That my check in the mail and that's I guess that's it is we gotta give people titles to everybody on the show right. It's kind of like I always laugh when in baseball now they have the thing where the assistant general manager becomes the general manager and the general managers become the head of baseball ops and nothing changes about the power structure but the only thing that changes is the title right which is kind of what happened with you yeah. You're right exactly all right so tell me what your favorite moment was from the All star events here in Cleveland <hes> my favorite events from yesterday was was the <hes> stand up for cancer cancer with Carlos Carrasco. I mean that was that was an extremely meaningful and touching moment played. They'd extraordinarily well on T._V.. The <hes> the setting in the stadium was was palpable. You could very much see the emotion and the fact that it was there was occurring and Cleveland just made it all the all the more special I mean I think what the dirty was one of the best we had had seen in recent years in my judgment. The also game is always something that I enjoy but that was that was truly an event like when when someone asks me ten years what do I remember about the Twenty Nineteen All Star Games <hes> it will be that it just shows at least this is bigger than baseball and the way that it was handled <hes> <hes> to me <hes> really stood out so <hes> Bravo's everyone involved in that and other rushing Karl <hes> back to more with this with this thing yeah and I loved the interaction between those involved in Terry Francona given hogging and touching his face and talking directly to them he could see how moved Carlos Carrasco was all right. You Send me topics every week and number one is about Troy Farkas his favorite player in the world a the guy who put on a show last night with one swing and that'd be Joe Gallo by one standard of measure. Joey Gallo makes better or at least more effective contacted any player ever has an fat not ending in strikeouts Dalo uh-huh is fifty seven for one twelve the season good for a five zero nine batting average no player has ever batted five hundred when putting the ball in play during the season Babe Ruth's nineteen twenty three is the closest we've ever seen. He batted four eighty. One now. Traditionally batting average on bulletin play or Babbitt excludes home runs to tell a certain story putting gallows case this metric that I create a truly illustrates his bad at ball prowess. Send me that metric and I'm going to steal it and use it because we've got the Rangers in Astros on Thursday night from Arlington and we're going to be talking a lot about Joey Gallo. I'm sure all right the most intriguing team at the trade deadline in your eyes Indians enter the all-star break on a six game win streak read and no team will face tougher decisions the next three weeks leading up to the deadline Cleveland owns the best run differential in the American league since June first at plus forty four even more impressive when considering neither Corey Kluber nor the aforementioned Carlos Carrasco have pitched one wants during that time these improved markedly in one area in particular. They're outfielder own eighth sixteen opiates since June I twenty six percentage points better than the League average they rank twenty six by that measure threw me if chimeras starts swinging it again and those stores contribute down the stretch in any way they might give the twins a run for their money and I totally agree with you. It was interesting after the All Star game last night. I was walking back to the hotel and I bumped into the J. Crawford who of course worked with for years at E._S._p._N.. And he's lives here in Cleveland. He's a huge Indians Fan and he asked me what I thought the Indians were going to do and I said I think they're going to trade Trevor Bauer because they need to Max out his value. General Manager with another team told me on on Monday that if they don't trade bauer before this year's deadline he's GonNa lose significant value and Jay Crawford said I. I'm telling you the fans here. We go nuts and I well. That's why I think if you're in the position of the Indians this cheer at the trade deadline you Trevor Bauer you better get back. A Major League player like Houston has a lot of major league ready outfielders guys who can help right away they have to they can't trade Trevor Bauer for prospects if they wind up doing that. If you treat Trevor Everydollar for prospects you're right they might right but if you're able to trade it for a couple of players or even one player with with more club control for a few years at least with prison valley value like you said I think the only way that they could reconcile all right. Give me some attendance observations so despite more offense being injected into the game attendance is down by about six hundred fifty thousand fans league-wide year over year last season Major League Baseball drew fewer than seventy million in attendance for the first time since two thousand three great this year per game attendance is on pace to be its lowest since nineteen ninety six the first full season after the work stoppage. Only two nationally teams are up by at least one hundred thousand fans year over year the phillies and the Padres the two who biggest spenders in free agency so while the numbers say that Bryce Harper and Manny Machado have disappointed in your one the attendance figures tell another story neither made the All star team but both clearly have energized fan bases at a somewhat dormant time inside the game right Hembo great to talk to you. Yes those Joe Gallen notes so I can copy your work on air already in the queue because we're tired of getting yelled at for somebody else's work burqas and would rather get yelled at for the stupid stuff that we do in this is why the Seattle Mariners play in the two thousand sixteen world series. Oh what a loser. This is the baseball tonight tower power ten. This week is going to be a special edition power ten because let's face it last couple of days and I've been a lot of games played so we're going to run quickly through the power ten before we learn more about Mr Troy Farkas Monte power ten dodgers one one Yankees to astros three braves four twins five raise six red sox seven Indians eight athletics nine nationals ten and the only question I have for you troy. I'm not worried about your power ten. Do you have the Rangers. Would you have the Rangers in your power ten this week buster. I do not have the Rangers in my power ten this week. Wow they like it. They kinda limped into the all star break and my confidence is waning. Hopefully they can turn it around all right. How the heck did you become a rangers fan okay? I don't meet a lot of Rangers Fan along the way all right yeah so my Rangers Fan Story so I'm from upstate New York so as a kid I was a Yankees Fan. Now you know my brother. He's a mariners fan and so I realized is my brother when I was younger and as a mariners fan he felt that Alex Rodriguez betrayed him by leaving for the Texas Rangers because he took a huge contract and so therefore since he didn't like a Rod I did not like a rod and so on the the Yankees Alfonso Soriano was my favorite player and then the Yankees go and Trade Alfonso Soriano Four Alex Rodriguez so I'm like well. I can't let the Yankees anymore. They got rid of Soriano added Rodriguez so I followed Soriano to the rangers and even though he went onto the nationals and the cubs and back to the Yankees again I'd stuck with the Rangers because I liked him. My God that is kind of alluded that that's I wouldn't. I would have guessed that you know you had a baseball card of some ranger player when you were kid or maybe you. Aw game or maybe you read a book or something like that but it's a strange like <hes> cross-stitching of events that happen till you being a ranger fan from upstate New York. How many ranger fans do you run into in your daily life <hes> very few? I don't have any friends that are rangers fans. I don't know anyone really upstate New York. Maybe one person that I can think of so. Do you walk around with the Rangers Cap <hes>. I'm not a big hat guy but I'm a big guy so I've got some ranger sweatshirts for sure her and I do. I do have a rangers Hash wear them much. I proudly on my desk. I have my two thousand eleven American league champions hat no kidding and you just leave it there. You just leave the CAP. They're just let everybody know. Just let everyone know buster all right so Alfonso story on still your all time favorite player Yes Soriano Hamilton Adrian Bell trae very nice short stories. A great ad is an all time favorite player Great Dude <hes> great perspective you know someone who signed with the team in Japan at Dominican and then wind up making his way to the Yankees and it gets ready to the Rangers Great Power Hitter. We ever get a chance to meet him. I have not gotten a chance to meet him. I I saw him play a few times I saw him. He was at a legends game. Cooper sound a few years ago and I was really close to him but I have not met him but if you can arrange that I'm down for it so what would would you be. The tongue tied fan which you barely blurt out the words. I've been your biggest fans since you were. It's broken broken. I mean how would you handle that moment probably buster so quick backstrom big autograph collector earliest I was and so I had sent car cellphones a story on a few times in hopes getting them signed this was back in my younger days when that's much cuter and my brother actually wrote a letter in Spanish to story on because he was taking Spanish class and I I did not get an autograph but I was able to get back a photocopied autograph from Suryana so so what's your goal in life to get a real autograph from Alfonso Soriano Autograph. Maybe a photo now. I don't know if again if you can arrange it. I'll be happy man. Tell me about the photocopy like. Do you keep that like an shrines in place in your house yeah I do. I have that right next to my Nolan Ryan autograph. Oh my goodness if I bump into story at some point when I might have to go to work for you that it's pathetic. That's it for this week's power ten. Johnny got a tweet offset when he was three and from that day on he was hooked all he wanted to do was golf golf. He'd be on the links before school after schools all he ever wanted was to go pro and then one day when he was holding his grandson and thinking about his twelve handicap Johnny realized it just might not happen for him but you know what did happen for him. He switched switch to Geico and saved a bunch of money on car insurance so that was good and so was hanging out with his grandson. Leisure tweets okay buster few more bleacher tweets here first one comes from Brian Simpson at be simple one two zero two seven four. He asked hey buster with hunter rent froze great first half performance. He'll be arbitration eligible after this season. Does that make him possible trade bait for my padres. Yeah I rent rose actually been available in the trademark of the padres basically telling other teams will listen on him. They have a surplus of players in the expectation is whether it's before this year's trade deadline or during the course of the winner they're going to I used that surplus to go out and get starting pitching. I I wonder you know just <hes> this is me playing a general manager for two teams <hes> if they're potentially could be a match up with some of the <hes> controllable at feelers at the padres have with the Cleveland Indians for Trevor Bauer the padres now would be willing to take on a pitchers probably GonNa make a huge amount of money in arbitration during the course of the winter <hes> but it on paper it certainly give the padres the type of ace that they're looking for and it would give the Indians aliens and outfielder that they're looking for. We'll see I'd like to see the padres be real contenders down. The stretch here next comes from Jason Amoco at Jason Amoco now that the All Star game is over. What are you most looking forward to in the second half buster no-doubt Hi Jason that trade stuff? I love the trade stuff I love the back and forth and trying to put yourself in the shoes of the you know the various teams and what makes sense for them to try to get better. I'm definitely looking most forward to the N._F._l.. M._V._p.. Race between Yelich and bellinger and also also the central what the heck is going to happen there because it's all tight right now. Next tweet comes from Alan Lewis Lynton the seconds at Alum Lynton to can we get more buster and I wanNA play this first after the question. Can we get more buster as an alternative evil commissioner on the pot who that's what we talked about. Yesterday I came up yesterday when we were talking about the Eddie of Rob Manfred sitting in his office coming up with the juice baseball conspiracy and Buksh Ambi- said he wants to use that cut you know I thought about that Alan. That's a great idea. It might be fun to come up with a whole segment with Evil Commissioner right with the the rob Manfred <hes> alter-ego. What do you think I can get behind that because I would love to hear more this all right all right next week comes from Reggie deal at baseball nerd zero? Oh seven buster is tanking over Seattle is trying to but can't sing. It's ship to the bottom. The orioles royals naturally aged out only Detroit Miami and Toronto intentionally didn't try to stay good. The seventh with worst team Brody's mets no. I don't think tanking is over. I think there are a lot of teams that still look at the strategy and the under the current roles as we've talked about it makes sense and it's just so happens that I don't think all of them are intentionally tanking but in the American league it makes a lot more sense because you got all the superpowers at the top of the American league standings tweets today guys really good tweets coming over the last few days. 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Effectively Wild Episode 1645: Go Canada

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

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Effectively Wild Episode 1645: Go Canada

"Ball And welcome to episode sixteen forty five effectively wild fabulous baseball podcast brought to you by our patriot supporters. I meg rally fan grass. And i am joined as always by ben. Limburg ringer fan. How're you know. I have to say a heaven enjoyed. Alex rodriguez is recent work on baseball broadcasts but i have enjoyed his unexpected presence on many non baseball broadcasts over the past couple of years. It's like hey there's a rod at the documentation. There's a rod at times square new year's eve there's a red at the oscars. There's a rod at the grammys in the as there's eight right at the met gala. Gin lee had a whole threat of these. And i think my favorite version of a rod is a rod as jennifer lopez's plus one. Where i don't have to hear him but i get a little jolt of recognition from spotting a baseball player in a place where i don't expect a baseball player to be like hobnobbing with precedents for instance. Yeah i think supportive partner. A-rod is the super rod commendable. A-rod were excited for that one. It's the best of all a reds remember. Last march when trump reportedly called a rod to ask for advice on the coronavirus response did not remember that until you mentioned it. There's been some new. Since then say i wouldn't blame you banal. It sounds familiar. And i remember thinking at the time. I think we're in trouble here. Yeah read the benefit the to say that trump just ignored his advice. Not that a rod gave him the worst advice imaginable. But that's what. I'm talking about like a rod as authority on national crises. No a rod as arm candy. Who makes funny facial expressions. Yes more of that. Yeah and like to be clear we are not saying that that airpods You know like not a smart guy but we are saying that expertise is often hard one and you can be very good at one thing and that does not make you immediately good at other stuff so you know you gotta you gotta talk to the people who are good at the right stuff if you want to say you know arrest the momentum of a pandemic not a whole lot in his resume that suggests that won't be your first call for that but to show up at an event at your side absolutely and also i've got to give it up to listener and patriots supporter kevin dicker who had the line of the day in our facebook group. Aras at the inauguration. He must be excited to see so much bunting very good very very good that one. So we've got news a top tier free agent got the bag from the blue jays. And at that mean. I mean one hundred fifty million american dollars which is A pretty impressive. Some for george springer who is now a toronto blue jay for the next six years it safe to say that he is the first major domino to fall. There have been other good free agents who have signed. But this is the first of the guys were. I had pre right assigned who who signed. So let's put it that way. That's kinda how i gauge things like. Did i asked him one in advanced. Think about george springer so that we could spawn in a timely way. And so so yeah he is going to make that lineup pretty impressive. We'll get to we'll get to the brantley almost signing later. Not quite as impressive as it as it might have been but still pretty impressive nonetheless and we talked last time about how this This outfield performed surprisingly well certainly beyond my expectations in the two thousand twenty season. Which granted is abbreviated and all of that. But now now. The release strongly anchored In a way that i think makes them quite formidable. Really top to bottom here. Whenever you can just george springer in israel leadoff guy and then have him followed up by the likes of visual mp. Shed gra junior. And you know. I don't know i don't know if randall grischuk is gonna with the same in twenty twenty one as he didn't twenty twenty but suggested impressive group that they got going here. Yeah so. I applaud the persistence of the blue jays. At first or second or third or fourth or fifth or sixth. You don't succeed. Signed george springer science an astros outfielder though only one x astros outfielder says michael brantley got away returned to houston still an astros outfielder and we can talk about what may have happened there. Yes springer is quite a price. And i don't know whether you'd say he's the best position player on the market or whether real new is but neck and neck probably and springer has been basically a top five outfielder. Since the day he debuted. I would say and if you look at fan graphs where. He's actually fifth in outfield war or were among primary outfielders from his first season. Two thousand fourteen or over the past two seasons or actually over the past five or six or seven seasons. No matter what's been you choose. He ranks fifth infant crafts. Were over it. And that's among all outfielders among center fielders. he's trailing only trout. That's not counting. Putting up in eight ninety five hope yes with nineteen diggers in sixty three postseason games including twelve. Ninety five in the world series. So he has that in his history too and he has improved really in recent seasons which is pretty impressive and as you said. The bluejays had the second best outfield by wrc plus last season. One twenty eight after the mets and that was thanks primarily to tasker hernandez and kevin be xio and lord. Escorial junior and randall. Great whom are still there right. And most of whom are under team control for the next few years but they also had the third lowest outfield defensive runs saved total of any team so springer should help with that gives them kind of a true to way center fielder like they've had the defensive specialist center fielder with kevin pillar not too long ago. They've had center fielder suv hit. They haven't really had the complete package there. And that's what springer is yeah. It's an thing to say that he brings you sort of steady marquee production. But i think that when you have other guys in your outfield mix who you know. Maybe they're good performances is newer or it's more variable. You just have fewer potential holes that you're going to have to match up against some of the pitching staff in your own division when you have a guy like that who has been so consistent and has produced at such a high level for such a long time and is likely to be able to stay in center field for at least the first couple of years of the steel. You know we talked. We've talked at various points on this podcast about how you know. I'm a little skeptical of how long that's gonna last. Dan's right up of the steel persuaded me somewhat. That and i think his observation has good. That springer's defensive aptitude is less dependent on straight line speed than other guys might be. Yeah i thought that was really interesting. I actually just chatting within about that. Because i wanted more detail because that was a really interesting tidbit that i hadn't thought about because yes. Springer turned thirty one in september. As you mentioned earlier this offseason. He's maybe a little older than you expect. Although that's often the case with free agent by the time they hit the open market but players aren't aging all that gracefully the days by historical standards. And so you wonder how long he can stick their but yet. Dan pointed out that. You know springer isn't slow. He's eighty second percentile among all players in sprint speed. But he's not especially fast for a center fielder. Those tend to be very speedy. He hasn't lost a step yet like his sprint. Speeds are holding up to this point. But you might think the fact that he's not an elite speedster would be a bad sign for his defensive future because he has less far to follow. That was sort of the way that i initially thought about it. But then pointed out that there are probably reasons for optimism. Which sort of seems like a paradox. Until you really think about it because all else being equal a faster player is more likely to be a better defender. but i'll else usually isn't equal and so a center fielder who doesn't have elite speed is probably playing center in and playing it capably in springer's case because he's good at everything else so he's maybe taking efficient routes or he's positioning himself well or he's good at throwing or whatever it is and so dan his found that historically speaking slower players typically decline more gradually on defense. So that's encouraging you might think. The fact that springer is not top of the scale speed for a center fielder would mean that he can't sit there is on but it may also mean that his other skills as a defender can compensate for that because he wasn't super super vest to be with so yeah. I don't think he'll stick there for the entirety of this six year. Deal but he doesn't have to and he might just be able to shift over to a corner and be fine there for a while before he becomes more of a d. h. type f. I'm sure that they've planned for that. And they don't really expect him to be in center for race whole deal. It's very rare for an older player in his mid to upper thirty s to be a regular center fielder. but but that's okay and pet. That's probably yeah it. It allows him to retain defensive value on the front end of the deal. And like you said he has a couple of places that he can sort of shift around on the on the continuum before he has to move to something like a d. h. only role Which you know would would take a significant chunk out of his value. But yeah it's like once you clear the initial hurdle of having the an when i'm about to say underselling springer speed in particular but it's there's a threshold that you have to clear in order to feel the position and beyond that if you have supplemental skills those like you said ten to eight butter. So the comparison that dan made in his right up was to tim. La- castro who and you know it could be that develops in his own game as time goes on but his current defensive value is very heavily dependent on his speed whereas springer's isn't so there's surprising wiggle room there that you wouldn't necessarily attribute to him given that he's not at the at the very tip top for his position or just in general so interesting. I still think that this blue jays team needs some pitching but they are quite a bit more fearsome than they were this morning so you know when you look at our up charts projections which i will remind folks. Now do. Include a mix of zips and steamer. They're all sort. They're so fancy now that they're just fancy just remote sort of projected war perspective. The top of the american league still sits with the yankees the astros slide in just slightly ahead of the blue jays. But toronto's right they're they're right there in the top of Of the mix when it comes to american league teams in their projections. So it's very exciting for for them. The good people of toronto and buffalo. Buffalo's gonna get to enjoy the blue jays presumably for at least part of the season this year. So so yes roy. Exciting and springer didn't come cheap here. Obviously this is a record. Contract for the franchise eclipsing vernon wells extension. Which is maybe best forgotten. But we've talked ad nauseam about health. Bucci may have to pay a little bit of a premium to get players to go there and clearly after missing out on several other targets. They needed to sign someone in springer with someone that had a lot of interest in who made a lot of sense for their team in lineup. So maybe they had to tack on an extra year compared to other teams. I just don't see that getting in the way of anything else. They wanted do because their core. Most of their core is still so inexpensive. There's a lot of wiggle room there so we've talked about the pitching editions. They've made already rubbing ray tower chat would kirby aids but it was reported that they have an offer out for brad hand and it seems like they're very much still in the starting pitcher market. You know not getting brantley may be means that they are still very much in the running for trevor bauer. And maybe they have their eyes on other starters to and maybe they have players can trade like. They don't have as much of a lock. Jim as they would have had if they had signed brantley to because already sort of thinking okay. They'll package a couple of these outfielders. Grischuk will go somewhere or hernandez or or someone will be on the move for a starter. There's not as much gap there or expendable players. Now but i think they still have either the surplus players on the major league roster or the prospects or the money to really improve that rotation still and. I agree that they still need to do that. I think to really bring themselves into contention with the other top teams in the alias not that they're not within theoretical striking distance already but it would be easier to ambition that if they do at more pitching. Yeah especially in a year where you know we. We've talked about the the yankees situation in the race situation. Those teams remain very very good. And as i said the yankees are projected better on paper. But i think that there's a lot of potential in the keys rotation as it's currently constituted. But they are going to need some young guys to perform quite well for that rotation to kinda hang together. It's very garrett cole dependent at the moment even with the addition of kluber and you know some of the other stuff they've done so this seems like a good opportunity for the blue jays to sort of make their mark and and strike out and say no we're going to you know we're gonna throw our weight around and yeah as you said. I think we have their estimated payroll. Let a hundred and sixteen million. I think they're luxury. Tax number is is a touch higher than that. But they're so well well below even the first threshold so they have wiggle room and it is nice to see them throwing some of it around. And it's nice to see springer. Get a deal that does you know it does seem a bit rich in terms of what we expected. And maybe what. The rest of the market would have would have baird. Baird would've baird would have borne would have born. What have you should leave. All of this instilling. it's like it's like live editing. Glimpse into the mind because springer is not. I think the player who comes most immediately to mind when we think about service time in relation but he had his service time job too and so when when dan ran the numbers he kind of looked at what his contract what zips would have projected a six year contract to look like for him on different ages. Just kind of estimate. What would it have been in two thousand twenty one and if he had hit the mark even last year he would have been in for. What zipp saw as a contract a little bit above this in a in a neutral context and presumably if you know a team like toronto that might have to pay a bit of a surplus had had to do so you could make quite a bit more money so it's good when it ends up balancing out on the back end. We don't always get to say that so it's nice when it works out that way it's like you. You still shouldn't do shenanigans on the front end but it is nice when people are made somewhat hole on the back end because it is not a guarantee is thinking about that too at. He did well enough here that i don't think he has to spend too much time crying over spilt milk from the bag of milk that he is now trying to learn how to use. Now i think i think george is fine. But it's true that if he had hit the market and offseason earlier he would've been thirty instead of thirty one he would have been coming off. I guess his most successful full season of course he was good in twenty twenty two. It would have not been the post pandemic year but he did. Well i think in the bluejays were out there. And we're a motivated bidder. And i was also thinking that if he had hit the market last year he would have done so during the offseason of sign stealing discontents. Yes so very good point. I don't know how that would have affected him. And that's something that i'm kind of interested in too because it seems like springer has sort of avoided the stain of sign stealing in a way that may be carlos. Correa alex pragman jose. Altuve haven't and i don't know exactly why that is but he sort of seems to get a pass or sort of slip under the radar bit and to be clear like i'm sure that most fans if their team had just signed alex bregman karlskrona. They'd probably be pretty happy to wake. It's easy to be angry at the astros when the other when they're the enemy the adversary but when you suddenly signed one who makes your team a bunch better. I think you're probably pretty quick to forgive. But i guess in springer's case. Maybe it's just because i don't know. He seems to have a little less of a chip on his shoulder about it like he's been a little less. Outspoken occasionally out two bregman korea like either. They've had apologies that read as insincere too many people or they said things that made it clear that they kind of were using this as motivation or like talking about the haters or whatever and maybe i'm forgetting something but i don't really recall springer speaking out in that way maybe that's just his personality or or his temperament but he didn't really make himself as much of a target. I think as those guys did but it is interesting because this is like the first test case like this is the first corps member of the astros sign stealing lineup who has been on the open market and basically he was courted and welcomed just as eagerly as aj hinch Alex cora where so there continues to be any consequences. If that's something that you care about other than i don't know. I guess jeff now maybe but for the most part like i'm not gonna say all is forgiven but it's kind of an afterthought really yeah i would imagine that it mix of things. He has not i mean. I don't know george springer. So i don't know how difficult or taxing it is for him to sort of hold back in moments like that. I would imagine that he was cognizant of when his free agency was likely to hit. And so and i don't mean that he should have behaved any any other way. I don't mean to suggest that. It was like calculating in an iky way. But i i imagine that he was perhaps aware that the reaction of the rest of the baseball world two. What happened was not a particularly favourable. One and the way that fans reacted was not particularly favourable and that he was going to have to find a new home in all likelihood at the end of of all this and so he probably you know kind of board that in mind when he was approaching how he talked about things publicly. And i think being conscious of how you present yourself in public is you know. We don't have to view that as calculating it's an it's perfectly fine to be like i. I'm electing to not be obnoxious. That's nice. It's nice to not be obnoxious. We're so often obnoxious on accident and we can be forgiven for that but when you choose to be obnoxious some purpose it's like choose a different thing chooses to go pass so i imagine that he was conscious of that and he is seems like a guy who is like a nice sort so that that seems kind of consistent with at least the image that he has presented publicly prior to to all this and i think it helps that he has had a number of very good seasons preceded. What was going on there that he you know had a strong twenty nineteen and his breathing. Twenty twenty was very good. And so i think that he seems to be a player who we just thought about differently within the context of the banging scheme and i think that perhaps we were making a mental adjustment. That wasn't quite as severe when we were kind of applying some sort of discount factor to astro performances in the year of the banging skin in the year of the begging steve men. Then i guess there are already multiple books about it on the way. The market is flooded. Yeah i don't. I will leave that to other people but the but i do still enjoy saying banging scheme banging scheme fun to say banging scheme so i think that All of that taken together. The tarnish just seemed to be less severe because he wasn't one of these guys who had you know. The huge sort of breakout and the timing of the huge breakout and the timing of the banging scheme weren't necessarily perfectly aligned for other guys on the team either. But i think that we we tend to miss. Remember these things. And so. I don't know it is funny though that it is so much more. It is so much more present in our minds for someone like l. to vais that it is for someone like springer kaz salt lake not every year that altuva had was as good as the years prior to the banging scheme for springer and he clearly didn't have the same pedigree but he had good seasons too. So it's just it is an odd. It's an odd bit of business. Yeah well no. One was talking about buzzers. When it came to springer that wasn't true no buzzers no circling wrinkles in uniforms to identify. Supposed wires no discussions about ten to timing with springer however he was very much implicated in the thing based analysis that tony adams did at science. Doing scandal dot com. In fact he has springer with the second most total bangs logged after marwin gonzalez in that only seventeen season. So yeah you know he was. He was definitely at the plate when banging was taking place. But yeah as you mentioned. He has been at his best since that season. He has been even better. So you know. Not that i really by that. Other esters hitters fell off significantly because they were deprived of cheating. I think there's been a lot of suspects analysis about the impact of the banging scheme. And some i think pretty rigorous analysis at least some of which has shown that there probably wasn't really a net advantage which isn't to say anything about the morality of it just effect of it. And so when you look at springer and i think a lot of people pointed to the big decline in strikeout rate that he had going from twenty sixteen to two thousand seventeen. It went from twenty four percent to under eighteen percent and a lot of people said. Oh well he knew it was coming but they were real. Mechanical changes and approach changes. That i think sort of supported that and the fact that he has sustained it really backs that up like his strikeout rate in twenty twenty was his lowest yet. Even as the league average rate continues to rise and strikeout rate is something that stabilizes fairly quickly even in short season so he's really backed it up over the past couple years. She's shown that you don't need to know what's coming for him to hit well. So i think a lot of that analysis about sort of the astros team wide strikeout rates. It's really kind of tough because the personnel changes and they had a huge decline in strikeout rate but it was accompanied by a change in personnel and a lot of lower strikeout hitters and then springer's seems to have remade himself in that way and so it's pretty impressive. That he now is able to hit as well as he doesn't have the power that he does while still making contact at a rate that very few power hitters do in today's game so i think it's good for the blue jays to have him. It's sort of in line with how they built some previous contending teams assad can rosenthal point out at the athletic that like when the blue jays scott so good in the early nineties. A lot of that was acquiring stars from outside. You know roberto. Alomar and joe carter and devan wade and dave winfield. David cohen of these guys. Who were brought in to supplement their core and then the same thing in the middle of last decade where they had some good players who were there already but then they added and russell martin and josh donaldson to wit ski and david price etc and so now finally they're doing that under this current shapiro atkins regime which has taken a while not for lack of trying this winter but they are finally doing an perhaps they are not done yet. Yeah i think that it is also nice. I don't want to give undue credit or to sort of give a pass for how icky some of the past rhetoric was but it is nice to see it. Actually come to fruition. The idea of payroll flexibility for its own sake isn't what's at play but that it is actually being put in service so something and so that is good like they spent money and they made their team better in a really demonstrable way and they sound serious about continuing to do so. And it's going to be really nice to see good. Even really good veteran baths complement the young core and hopefully some of their pitching. You know they're young. Pitching takes a step forward. Hopefully they continue to add but it is you know our list of teams that are trying and actually succeeding trying because you have to actually sign guys to to have tried to try. You gotta can't just try to try. You gotta try. You gotta actually try so now we get another team to that list and in an off season where we are very worried about how long or short as the case may be that list will end up being at the end of it at the end of the offseason so nice change based so jet blue jays at another reason why they may have been motivated to give him more than other teams that were bidding for his services. Dan's ski pointed out in a piece that when he ran the numbers for the league as it stood prior to the francisco endure trade. He looked at which teams playoff probabilities stood to benefit the most from a five win upgrade from whatever source and the mets were on the top of the list which helps explain why they made the door trade but the blue jays were on top in the american league so they were kind of in that bubble sort of situation where they really needed to add those winds there at that point in the wind curve where those winter more valuable to them than they are to the typical team so it makes all the sense in the world for them to spend and by the way all four of the non pirates and al central teams were between the mets and the pooches on that list and yet none of them is really doing anything like that off. You think like if three of them don't do anything. Then the one that does it would be even more beneficial is like almost. They've all just agreed lake. Okay if none of us does anything that we can all be contending teams without doing anything. Yeah you you you would imagine. I don't quite know where in the off season this point comes but you would imagine that at some point someone going gonna look around and be like if we signed two guys. We're going to win this division two days. Still time to guys who has signed milwaukee this offseason ben. I think you just got it. Questioned in your chat from moore spent. Who was lamenting the fact that basically no one basically no one not actually now on daniel robertson. Yes how could i forget they. Also they also claimed. Tim lopes off waivers from the mariners. Okay they signed luke maili to a one year deal and they have signed a bunch of guys inside. he'd been a bunch. It's like five two minor league contract spree yet. They have done very little. And i don't mean to pick on them because the behavior of their fellows is not significantly better but very little when daniel robertson is like. You're an luke mainly sorry guys but that's not those are not the two players i have in mind. I should clarify my statement. They need to be to who are more impactful than those he. The sad thing is i think daniel robertson is actually the most expensive signing any. All central team has made this winter. And he's under nine hundred thousand dollar deal. I don't think the cardinals are the pirates of added anyone on a truly contract and the reds and cubs barely have so yeah the nl central looking bleak. Right well i think you make a fine point bringing up the years of team control that notorious statement it was easy to poke at that then but it depends while you're doing that if you're doing that just because you wanna have a low payroll for the sake of having a low payroll and saving your owner money than that's not really something for fence to get excited about. But if you are planning to reinvest that money down the road where those years of team control turn into cost control players and for you up to sign some big free agents to supplement. Those homecraft players are right then. And that's what they were doing here so they almost added another outfielder seemingly and A good friend of george springer and someone who is represented by sam agency and has been a teammate of his michael brantley and it was a rare reversal where all the reputable news breakers had brantley going to. The boot tastes briefly. Blue jay on the fan crafts steph charts because vegas is just all over it as soon as news breaks and usually when you hear it from usual suspects that big news breakers it happens but this time brantley seem to slip through. Toronto's figures went back to houston. So i don't know what happened here. What wires were crossed. Yappy he heard about the milk at the last second and changed his mind. Have anymore bagged. Milk jokes can make on this episode. We will find out but friendly goes back to houston so that was weird. And i'm glad for the sake of jays fans that they had springer signed in the bag. I will not make a milk bag joke there before this happened. Because imagine if getting and then losing bentley had happened before they had springer board already after of the other close calls so that was weird but brantley not a blue jay. Still an astro still an astro and and is a good is quite good. Fit for the astros. The astros were going to find themselves in a position where they had a little thin. There are a little thin out there in the outfield arguably they might still be a touch thin but you know they had need there. They didn't want to lose. Both of those guys. Brantley is older than springer. This deal is shorter. There's all the reasons that he got a shorter deal for less money. But i think we've talked about this before. He is just from just a pure hitter perspective. I really enjoy watching michael brantley. He looks to so in control. Yes like totally common collected up. They're totally common collected. And i dunno. The pats beat is nice. Anyway i just. I enjoy him. I think he makes a good deal of sense for houston's roster and what they need to years this this is another deal that ben. It's fine totally fine. Makes a ton of sense for both parties involved. I do find jake kaplan. I have not read his piece yet. But did the great thing of looking at the twitter summary and thinking that i understand part of his point so sorry jake but he pointed out on twitter that it does make it a little bit odd that they didn't even extend a qualifying offer to him. Yeah right 'cause that's one year in eighteen point nine million and then they ended up signing him for two years and thirty two million which that's actually identical to the terms of the first contract Brantley but it is weird like if they expected that they were going to give him something like that then it would have made sense to offer the qualifying offer which is redundant. But i wonder if that means that. The market was more robust than they thought like. We've been sort of surprised we talked about this. How it seems like a lot of the contracts are coming in in an arranged where you would have expected them to be even if they're not a pandemic and abbreviated season of the owners crying poor and all of that so maybe the astros were also taken aback that they thought that someone like brantley wouldn't come in this amount and then were somewhat surprised to to see whom they had to out bitter or what terms they had to extend or you know. I don't know maybe some other plans fell through. Or maybe he's decided. They wanted brantley more than they initially did. It could be a number of things but that was what came to my mind. Yeah i i would imagine that this suggests either that the market was different than they were anticipating or that they thought they were going to secure the services of someone else and then they ended up going this way but regardless of exactly how it came together. I just think that it makes a good deal of sense. It would've been kind of fun to see him in toronto if only because you know like a really good hitter to and even though as we said there were a lot of qualified and talented players in the lineup of their. You know just one. More good hitter never hurts. Have one more good rent as you said i think that that likely would have resulted in some additional transactions on the back end which are good for me as a person who helps run a baseball website for it. Yeah this'll do just fine but the astros seem much more in need of bentley than the blue jays did. Almost every team would be better with brantley than without because. He's an excellent hitter but especially post springer. Outfield is a strength for toronto. So it doesn't seem like the marginal would be biggest at those positions and then yes there would have been a logjam you know. Especially if vlad junior doesn't stay in the best shape of his life which we all hope he does that he really mexico of it at third base again perhaps but if at some point he is of first baseman a h. In that's permanent. Then you start looking ahead because springer in a couple years brantley in his mid thirties like you'd be adding a lot of players who might have to go there at some point and they already have an excess of you know at least competent productive outfielder. So not that they couldn't have afforded to sign him and also go get some pitching but they're going to do one or the other. It seems like they could make much more of an impact on their roster by concentrating on pitching or other positions. And the astra's kind of need brantley. Think i mean they're on the old side as a roster now and brantley doesn't help with that and there were some possibly concerning signs about brantley at the plate last year on the surface his stats looked about the same as ever but he did outperform his expected stats by considerable margin. He had a career low contact rate. Although not a bad one he really struggled against four seamers with he had historically crushed so those could be signs of slippage. But i'm not inclined to make too much of them. Considering his track record the fact that it was a short series in that for him was shortened further by a quad injury. And assuming there isn't any big drop off their this season. They still have quite a core on offense with bregman out too. Vague korea. Brantley your alvarez coming back hopefully healthy kyle tougher. They actually have with brantley now. I think the most projected position player war of any team just a hair ahead of the yankees and the dodgers and then the buddha's even without brantley are behind those three. So still pretty good. And you know maybe springer brings some veteran mentorship to their young guys. Perhaps that helps in some way too. But i think the astros showed how dangerous lineup could be last october. I'm kind of inclined to write off some of their struggles as just small sample or being the most hated team in the country or whatever you know more so than thinking that they needed to know what was coming to be good again. So i think they will still be pretty formidable in the short term. And you know they have their own pitching issues. I suppose but i kind of have some faith of them to figure out their pitching staff. One way or another abby. Get some guys back. So i think brentwood is a pretty important piece for them. I tend to agree with that. He is a nice anchor to outfield. That will yeah as an as roster older Some some guys. You haven't gotten at least haven't gotten consistent playing time because of who is ahead of them on the doctrine of cash like no cal tucker still twenty four miles just twenty six so still pretty young. Yes oh just had multiple knee surgery. That part is very bad but yeah this is definitely allows them to not have to put your gun out in the outfield again. But i think that he's a good. He's a good veteran presence and inker and sort of reliable have production which is actually the important thing next to tucker in straw and yeah pat houston team. Do we still. Who do we think the best team in the aol. West is ben. I guess pending further moves. I would probably go into it expecting the astros to end up on top. I guess i think that too. I guess i think too with a full season. Another full presumably healthy season for mccullers and framer who pitched well and keita remains impressive and the as just lost semi-in presumably and so i guess i think that that's true one of these days. We're gonna come in here and we're going to be like it's a different team but i don't know preseason going into twenty thousand twenty one is that for me but it's closer. It's much closer than it used to be. Which is nice. Yes so both springer and brantley joined the list of free agents who got more money than they were projected think on the free agent rankings at fan graphs and an lp trade rumors. But one guy. Who didn't i guess. There are a couple more minor moves. One guy who did not join that list is jose can tana who signed with the angels for one year and eight million dollars. That's the same deal. Jay hap- just got from the twins. And i think canton had been projected for a little bit more than that and this seems like sort of a steel to maybe stealing strong but it seems barkan yet. Gas is probably better because cantata had never been on the injured list until this past season and he had thumb surgery and latte inflammation and given that. He hurt his thumb washing dishes. Probably not repeatable. I would hope just dishwasher or something and pretty much. Every pitcher had let inflammation at some point in two thousand twenty naked echoed that against him too much and the angels need durability in their rotation as much as any team like. That's been their biggest problem over the past several seasons and thought at least based on his longer-term track record should give them that. And i know his profile has fallen and his stint with the cubs was not nearly as successful as assistant with the white sox and he is known to cubs fans in part for costing them eloy jimenez and dylan cease which is not continuous fault. But he didn't deliver exactly what he was hoped to deliver but he wasn't bad like he was still a league average arm. Who until two thousand twenty was pretty durable and for that for a guy who is just about to turn thirty two on one year deal. Eight million seems like a pretty wise investment in the angels are one of these teams. We talked about yesterday. It seems like they're bunch of teams that are planning to have a six man rotation and the angels are one of them and that seems optimistic giving their troubles. Keeping pitchers healthy like Having enough pictures to fill out a regular rotation has been an issue for them. But i guess that's part of why they're doing this because you know. Maybe part of the motivation is they hope to have shohei ohtani pitching and they would have to manage his workload so you have a six man rotation but can i think makes that more viable it makes it a little easier to imagine that they could be a threat in that division. It's just it is. It is maddening of this that it is so hard because we've joked about you know. Put a five hundred team around my trout in your you'll go to the postseason and that's true. But the angels have so much more than that on the position player side at this point and so for them to not be able to put together a league average usually league average tape. That's all you need you need. You probably need more than that but like you just see you need innings competently pitched and it has been such a struggle. It spent such a wild weird struggle. And so i. I think that this is a good move. I agree with you that you know. I don't think that he is necessarily going to regain form. But this seems like a perfectly good deal like we've talked about before it is quite hard to have bad one year contracts. Just really hard to goof that up too badly. But i will admit that i kinda wish that there were options that we thought they were going to pursue that are slightly more sure than riches hard because it's pitching so it's never quite sure because they always get hurt they just they just get hurt all the time but i wish that there were kind of more sure option that they had gotten an. It's tricky because they're not really in a position from a prospect perspective to necessarily trade for one of those guys by just like you know. Carlos carrasco would make such a difference the stupid team. Yeah and they sort of struck out in that respect last offseason race they were trying to get garrett cole they were trying to get other top of the rotation types and they ended up settling for. Anthony don't which a nice consolation prize if you can't get an ace get like the best position player available runs runs but yes they still are in need of that position that player they did not get last winter and maybe they still will. I mean i guess they've been linked to bauer at various points. Who hasn't so you know maybe thermostat or out there but yes you're right that has been the big missing link for them and we all wanna see mike trout in october one way or another place. Now i was just thinking like in recent weeks. We've talked about almost an entire rotations worth of cubs pitchers who have departed the team. You darvish tyler. Chat would john lester. Now cantina these are all cubs starters in twenty twenty and in recent seasons all just left and gone to other teams and now i was looking at what's left in the aftermath and the cubs currently have the worst projected starting rotation according to fend graphs charts. And when you look at even the top of that rotation it's like hendrix davies alec mills and you know hendrix's good like davies has been good lately. But what a weird top of the rotation in two thousand twenty one deeply strange a trio of soft tasers hendrix. Davies are like eighty seven eighty eight and clearly. They've made that work for them. But it's still an anomaly and then mill sits around ninety and those are like your top guys and you know they're not top guys actually throw harder than the top guys do but are may be still not as reliable but it's hendrickson davies in the same rotation is going to be like the spiderman pointing at each other meeting right that those guys like the closest cops for each other and now they're in the same rotation which Maybe we'll be beneficial. Maybe they will learn from each other but it's to be confusing. Because i feel like i already get them mixed up in my mind. And now they're gonna be pitching like back to back in the rotation. Probably i don't know if there's any sort of like you know sometimes you hear about like maybe there's a benefit to having pitchers who have different approaches pitching back so that you have a lefty breaking up a bunch of right easer you know guys with different sorts of stuff so that you're giving hitters different looks and i tend to think that's overrated at least when you're talking about starters maybe there's something to it with relievers when it's the same game but i think russell carlton has written about the handedness aspect of that and it didn't seem like there's a ton to eight and so i don't think it's necessarily the case that like davies would be a lot less effective pitching right after hendrix or something. It's just strange. I think that these these are the as his in this day and age. And but there's not much surtee beyond that. It kind of makes me wish i had taken shelby miller in the minor league free agent traffic because the cubs decided to. And maybe there's an opportunity there. This team won the division last year ban. Oh i know. They're very much capable of doing that again if they would do anything like maybe they're still capable of it but they would be much more capable of if they would make any effort at all and as just reading like the biggest free agent position player. They've signed over the past three winters. Is daniel also. It's like the only guy they've given a multi year deal. The only position player i think in the past few years and like going back to jason heyward. It's like you know since hayward it's like daniel also not get a big deal. They just have not spent in that way and there are plenty of places where they could improve. Yeah it's just it has to be so frustrating. I got a question related to serve cubs fandom from someone in my chat today and i just want to remind everyone not that you need permission for me but you can take a year off. He can take a couple years off if it doesn't grab you. You don't have to be excited about it. I think that there will be At least aspects of that broadcasts that are fun and exciting this year and so that part is good but like you know you can take a year off. It's okay the team will be there when you get back. They won't know you work on right now on. Oh and you only get to live for so long so fit doesn't make you happy you can you know you can do. You can do something else. You can read books or plant lettuce or hang out with your family or whatever whatever moves you nice and legal so like just do that stuff and take your off and then check back in. Some of the guys will be the same but a lot of them will be different. And then you'll spend time. What is that guy. And that'll be fun that'll transition you're back into carrying about the team and fellow. That'll be great so it's okay to take time off from from phantom if it's not if it's not grabbing you doesn't make you bad person or any less of a fan it just means you're busy just busy. It's fine to be busy. Yeah i think there are probably more people who did that in two thousand twenty than in a typical year just because of everything that was going on and how weird baseball was. But i think there are also some people who have just like renounce their to a certain team maybe even switch teams in. We've actually been planning in to talk to one of those people so if you are one of those people let us know like the you have switched affiliations after being a lifelong fan of a certain team. Because that's something that sparks strong emotions in people. It's cut up this controversial thing because there's this belief that if you're a fan it's just do or die. You know good times or bad times. You have to follow that team. It's you know it's like blood it's like you can't get rid of it and there's something to that in you know we can save this for maybe a full discussion and some other episode. But i understand the sentiment because without the bad times the times don't mean much and so if you're only rooting for a team when it's winning you know that there's something i think to sell through some down years but it does depend at least a little bit on how the down years came about and if it is just that the team is not trying like it. It's one thing if the team is trying and it's not working out or if the team just had an extended run of success and maybe those guys got old and they weren't able to refresh the roster and there's an ebb and flow to these things but if you're a team like the cubs that still has a lot of talent and just has stopped investing in the team and you know there are people who maybe have found themselves drifting away from the cubs or other teams because of their owner's actions or or politics or whatever and that's perhaps a valid to although kind of dangerous. Because if you're hitching your wagon to to any owner or t inflict. There's a suggests that you're going to get up disappointed at some point that that new team. So there's that to consider. But i am interested in it because you don't want to abandon your team like cubs fans know better than anyone that like. There are a lot of lean times. And maybe that makes the boom times even better and sweeter so you wanna stick around for that but there is kind of a contract between fans and teams that. Hey if we're going to really care about this things then you have to make it worth well like you. You have to reward our faith by at least making a good faith effort here and you can argue that. The cubs have ceased to do that. Yeah i think that you can and i agree. I mean like look. The team that i rooted for most of my life was the seattle mariners. And if you can't deal was the bad times like what are you doing. But but i do think it's fine to take breaks and yeah. I think that more should be made of the the kind of contract that you have. And then you're mariners fan and and jerry dipoto is like well we're not in a rush and i'm like well. I'm getting older. I'm getting older. So i'm in a rush jerry. 'cause i'm getting older. I don't know if i'll feel anything. When the mariners make the postseason for the next time. But i think that excuse my language but i think they should fuck around and say let's make makefield things challenge twenty one. Yeah and often like it's it's hard like to just decide. I'm not going to root for the stephanie. Because you've been rooting for this team. Since you were like in the cradle like you're raised to root for this team it's tied up with your family and your community and your friends and everyone else roots for this team. And so if you turn your back on that you're turning your back on your community in a way and your social network can so. I understand why there'd be peer pressure there. That would discourage you from doing that. Or maybe it's just fun to follow the team because everyone around you cares about that team so that would be tough to like. It's not always conscious decision where you sit down and say i'm going to grow up to be a fan of this team. It's just something. You are instructed from birth. Almost in it's hard to but that go but sometimes there are times when we have to let go of things and make our own choices and fend not always one of those are. It's okay for that to just be a tribal thing. That's just for fun but if it's bring you joy then you may have to reexamine that you don't just throw it away. Just put it in a drawer. You have all kinds of stuff in a drawer in your house. Put it in your junk drawer. And then one day you'll open it up and you'll be like go. I need batteries. And then you'll be like. Oh my phantom. I'll plug that in and see if it still has juice i'm just gonna end. The batteries weren't part of the phantom but then they became part of the phantom metaphor. But you know throw it in a drawer and then see what. It's like in a couple of years and you'll be like i forgot. I had this all right. So maybe i have one email here. We could end on a very simplistic stat. Last can offer here so this is a question from a listener who works for an nlp or and so asked to remain anonymous. He says my question is about comparing and contrasting your lives working in an outside of baseball. I've worked for an mlb team for two years like many of us who work in and around baseball. I had a prior career working in the sports industry doing sales analysis for retail company. As my first job out of college the organization. I now work for is awesome. My boss has been awesome. An awesome employer definitely has a different meaning after twenty twenty still. I wonder what life is like the travel. The work hours sometimes the pay-cut is it all worth it to work in something. You love have experienced these thoughts. What do you think. Do you have any insights to prevent these. Grass is always greener mentality. I'm not expecting you to be my therapists just wondering if anyone else has made these comparisons so this kind of along the lines of what we were just talking about with fandom. This is professional life now so if your dream is to work in baseball work for a baseball team and then you get there and you find that. Maybe you're thinking of doing other things or maybe it's not all it's cracked up to be in certain ways so i don't know if you've experienced this when it comes to baseball but i know you've kind of switched careers times at this point and and you've found something that you really like doing. So do you have any thoughts on this. Yeah i guess like the first thing. I'll say is that there is a you know there's like a baseline you gotta make a living right. Yes have to make enough money to be safe and hopefully comfortable and not grasping all the time and so. I think that it is very acceptable to prioritize being like materially solvent. But i'll tell a little story to our listeners. Which is that you know. One of my first careers out of college was working in finance. My worked all the time. And i was in my opinion overcompensated for my value relative to society and you know the degree of overcompensation was offset somewhat by the fact that i had to live in new york remains an absurd expensive place but i can testify to that yet but i i was definitely paid more than i was producing in terms of making the world. A better or more interesting place and by the end of my tenure there. I was stressed out and board. Which is a terrible combination of things to be to be. Stressed out and board is like uniquely terrible in terms of a work experience. Because you don't want to do any of the things you have to do to check them off your list and thus be less stressed but you still have to do them anyway. So it's just this constant negotiation between things you hate you know. I also came to the realization that working in that field was consistent with my own personal values and so it was time to make a change. And then i went and was a grad student and was paid for for less than my my although i will say having a little bit of cushion from from the finance life definitely softens the blow somewhat and so all of that to say. I was much happier being a grad student than i was working in finance and so i do think that there is a a bar. You have to clear so that hopefully you are not just consumed with worry about money all the time which is its own really debilitating kind of stress but once you cleared that bar i do think prioritizing work if you are lucky enough to be able to that you really like and that motivates you and you find engaging and the hopefully you get to do with people you is worth a lot and it makes a just make up all of the gap and you do sometimes end up as i have in my thirties in a position where the people you know who say stayed in finance are taking very different vacations than you are but you get to do a thing that you really like and care about and we'd unfortunately society do not set people up to do that as often as we should. And we tend to mush people's identities together with their work. In a way that i think is not super productive and i am probably the last person who should talk about that because i'm definitely guilty of it. So there's there's a lot to life beyond your work. And i don't mean to suggest that that has to be sort of an all consuming forced that it has to be the most important thing but it being something that you like and care about and that is consistent with your values as a person. If you're able to thread that needle age encourage you to not walk away from it because even if you are paid in a in a very generous way if you're stressed and board and not consistent with your values you're gonna wanna leave eventually. So that's that's my experience anyhow. I don't know that it's necessarily universal with that. That was sort of the path that i ended up taking. At least from the finance part to the grad school part and then there was the detour into nonprofit which is much longer conversation. And then i got an email from david apple men and here we are and have you had any second thoughts about this portion of your career have you. I mean i your home. I was very afraid for a lot of last year. That i would not be able to get to do it anymore. But that's a different kind of consternation than not liking your job. You know like ben. I'm sure that you have you have stores you could tell you know. It's a job and so it has days that are irritating. And you have days where you'd rather be doing something else in you have days where you're tired and you don't have that feeling of like. Wow i get to do this every day but i really quite like job. Even with the stresses that come with it because it is one. And i feel very fortunate to be able to say that. Yeah i don't. I don't have any regrets. Yeah i mean the first thing that you do doesn't always end up being the last thing that you do even if it's the thing that you thought you wanted to do and i only really ever aspired to do one of two things be a writer not necessarily a writer about baseball just a writer or work for a baseball team. You know. be a general manager. Which i guess is the dream of most people in front offices whether they say so or not and i was kind of on the track to try to do one of those things like after college. I got some internships. They got a yankees baseball operations internship at about that before that was basically like dream. Job or dream job adjacent. You know i was on that path. I felt like an as excited to be there. And i got a lot out of that job. And i learned some things and i enjoyed a lot of aspects of it but i think it is maybe a little less glamorous for most people once you're in the door you know there's the initial thrill of i'm working for a team. I'm wearing this badge. That will get me into the ballpark head all hours and l. months and especially if you're working for the team you grew up rooting for home city. Which you know you don't necessarily want to let on when you're at the office you don't wanna be the the fan boy rate but you have some amount of that inside and so. I am glad that i got to do that. And i did it for a while. And my internship came to an end and you know if they had kept me on if they had said. Here's a fulltime job. I probably would've taken it and who knows. Maybe i'd still be there. But it wasn't everything that i thought it would be. I guess like while i was still there. I missed writing. Because i had done a lot of that. Not just in school. But i had already started to do stuff for baseball prospectus. And i'd really enjoyed that and when you work for baseball team you just can't really do anything public facing in felt the absence of that and a lot of the work that you do for baseball team. You know it's grunt work. it's pretty boring. Yes it's cool that it's for a baseball team and you can tell yourself that in some tiny you know unmeasurable way. You are contributing to the success of that team but a lot of it is tedious and monotonous. At least when you're doing an entry level job justices in almost any industry. So yeah you get to be in the same office where the gm is. And you. Get to walk through the ballpark to get to your cubicle. Or whatever but once. You're in your cubicle. It looks a lot like a lot of other cubicles and all of the work is thrilling. And could i have continued on that track. Perhaps you know. Could i have done. What a lot of people do in their twenties when they want to work in baseball which is just go from internship to internship and hope to catch on eventually move over the country and do jobs in the minor leagues and long hours for low pay. Yes and i guess. I didn't want it quite enough to do that. Because i really wanted to try writing and doing more of a media job and there really just hasn't been a second that i have had second thoughts about that. Who knows what would happen if i had somehow stuck it out what. I've managed to get some accomplished baseball career at some point. Perhaps but part of the reason why i went away from that was that i didn't really think my skills stood out. You know it wasn't like i was a former player. Who had that side of things in his past a wasn't like you know have i've stat head maybe by english major standards or by baseball writer standards but not by baseball front office standards so it was like i was going to compete. Safer metrically speaking with the nathen computer science masters people who were working right next to me so nothing really stood out. I guess about my skill set. That would be really valuable to a baseball team. And maybe today it would a little bit more because teams have hired more people with that background kind of as communicators of a lot of the people who've been poached from fat grafts. Where people who when they were hired at least didn't have those really specialized skills but had a history of making these things comprehensible to people and coming up with insights. You know you don't necessarily have to know every programming language to help team but at that point it didn't seem like there was a clear route for me to take in a sort of fell into doing things that gave me a lot of pleasure and just like looking back on it. I'd be hard pressed to come up with a baseball career that i could have had. That have been more rewarding than getting to do this. Podcast or write books or you know. Get to do all the other things that i've gotten to do and i'm glad i got a taste of it. If only to get it out of my system and i made some friends and made some memories i happen to be with the yankees when they won the world series in two thousand and nine so i got right in a duck boat in the ticker tape parade or go down to the clubhouse and celebrate after the out and those are things that some people who've worked in baseball for many years haven't gotten to do so if anything that made it a bit easier for me to transition to something else. I think i've definitely like pivoted as time has gone on you know. Initially i was just all baseball all the time gradually. I've branched out from that more and more to the point that baseball's less than half of the writing that i do now and i'd like to continue to experiment there and do different kinds of writing. So that's an example of. I haven't really gone away from writing or wanting to write. But maybe the types of writing the things that i write about have changed but i think it's perfectly fine to adjust and if you find that the reality is not quite what you dreamed it would be. It's okay to switch like you don't have to be stuck in something because it's what you thought you wanted to do. That said like times might be tough here and there and went. Yeah you might have to grind through some less rewarding parts of your career to get to the good stuff. So i'm not saying quote if it's not immediately a thrill ride but i am saying but if you've given it some time and you find that you keep looking at other things don't be afraid to indulge those things it's pretty common for people to discover that they didn't actually know how they wanted to spend their life when they were still in college. Yeah and it's also totally acceptable to be like. This is the job work from nine to five. And here's the stuff. I do outside of work. Like that's stutz totally fine to fine for to like work to live and get to go do stuff and you know support a life that is meaningful to you away from work. And that's when so what you find. Is that this now selling car parts. I don't know like. I don't wanna say that's not rewarding. I'm sure that is rewarding to some people but if being the you know regional junior manager for paper sales's like the thing that lets you have a home and take your your family and to carry yourself and be in your community that's cool to like there's just. There are a lot of ways to be in the world. And i think that the thing is that having all the money is not gonna make you happy having not enough money will make you miserable to and you only have you know you gotta fill your time during the workday and hopefully it's doing something that you like and hopefully if it's not it's doing something that's tolerable and yet like you said times are times are tough out there so i think that the standard for like what you prioritize is probably pretty different now than it would be under ideal circumstances but it's so k. To really like what you do and make a little less. It's okay to not really care about what you do and make what you need to. You know just a bit of a brain drain going on in a lot of front offices right now archie anderson wrote about this and tober for cbs sports. And that's partly because our downsizing and laying people off but also because yeah people are kind of casting there is elsewhere and maybe that's for financial reasons or maybe it's not maybe they found that you know they're working for a fun office that has like a dozen analysts and you know you're part of this big group and maybe you've you can't even tell like what your individual contribution is doing and it's not as great as you thought it would be and so you try something else and we do get a fair number of emails from people who've gotten jobs in baseball and maybe got more interested in baseball because of this podcast and went in that direction. That's great if we can help someone come to that but this listener asked if anyone else had brought up the thoughts that he's having and i wanted to just read an excerpt from an e mail that we got from a listener named max just earlier this month and he had a a really interesting experience along these lines so he someone who decided that he was interested in working in baseball in college and he got a a minor league player. Development internship for the delmarva shore birds part of the orioles organization. And i'll just read from his here. He says what a summer maryland crab cakes parking lot crashes a visit to sabre seminar to hear ben and sam live and a multitude of attempts to persuade ryan. Mountcastle to visit the video room later. I returned to umass amherst to wrap up my degree. Senior year brought the winter meetings and ingredient that i would return to the orioles as a minor league player development intern with the norfolk tied upon completion of my degree graduating with my degree in december. I had a few months to pass before flying down to sarasota for spring training returning home. Winter work was scarce a few lobster. Boats were still running. But i wasn't especially keen on the idea of the ocean in january so i returned to the same k. Through eight classrooms where. I grew up and substituted until it was time to head down south. He says Earlier that teacher had told him that he thought he might be a teacher someday. If he wanted to pursue that he continues. I embrace my time in the classroom but was fully committed to might work with the orioles. Norfolk brought new experiences travel. Minor league rehab stints. Frequent visits from duquette and other brass sitting between giolito and moncada as chartered a game from behind charlotte's home plate and a few shiny data tracking toys the dream when might say however. I found myself pushing ninety hour work weeks in a dark clubhouse with few opportunities to engage with the outside world when i did find daylight it was frequently spent trouble-shooting wet cameras on my way to purchase inc or walking between hotels and ballparks enjoyable moments became fewer and far between guilt crept in as i was noticing an increasing lack of appreciation from what you're told is every baseball fans childhood dream there was no fulfillment a reached my tipping point during the waiting hours of an extra inning fireworks getaway. We departed no folk around ten pm arriving in gwinnett the next morning at eight. Am to buses straight through the night having separated from my partner of five years earlier in the season the overnight slog reaffirmed that might work in baseball was prohibiting me from taking care of my own wellbeing in search of a hard reset. I purchased an october flight to anchorage on my phone. While lacking the night's game on bets software using w. o. f. dot com. I had found vernon stockwell of stockwell farms in palmer. An hour north of anchorage. He was in need of a farmhand for a few months to wrap up the season and sell the produce at local markets. So i- welt while out and palmer. I spent my free time putting together graduate school applications and that was it. He says well. I coach middle school baseball. I haven't watched a professional game since the anchorage flight. Sometimes i wonder what added yo. Stance looks like or how matt has adjusted to life in the outfield. But never to the point of seeking out highlight in a way. Your voices are my highlights. Presently my work as a k. Through eight special. Educator is willing. I have dwindling supply of del marva and norfolk homerun run. Baseball's that will be passed down to future buyers as rewards my bp collection lines my shelves for students to flip through so he just made a decision that it wasn't what he wanted to be and that is a bold move. And i admire that too. Just to just remake your life on the fly like that just decide. This is what i thought i was going to do but now i'm just going to take a flight to anchorage and work on farm. That's quite a pivot that. I don't think i would have the courage really to do that but i applaud max for just decided that he needed to do something different to take care of himself and he is now found something that he really likes doing that. He feels like he's helping people. So i imagine he is not the only one with that sort of story. No now i'm sure not and it takes a great deal of courage to be willing to do that. And you have to be in the right spot in your life to even be able to contemplate a move like that and so if you're in that spot and you hear that voice i think it's it's good to act on and yeah crash. That's quite a quite a departure. I mean i moved to wisconsin. It is cold there. I didn't have to depend on the last blockbuster in the united movies either so in hours all right so if anyone else says stories like this that they wanna share happy to see him but you gotta figure out your own way and be open to new possibilities all right so i will close with a step last data. You're not this is a question from. Kyle lop nur patriots supporter. He says i come to you today with a step last idea. Today is the anniversary of eddie. Mathews being inducted into the hall of fame. It was earlier this week. Matthews was the only player to play for the braves in boston milwaukee and atlanta but until this morning i had forgotten he played in three world series too with the braves in nineteen fifty seven and nineteen fifty eight and one with tigers in his final season in nineteen sixty eight matthews's last hit in the nineteen fifty eight world series. Came in game five on october. Sixth then he didn't get another until game. Four of the nineteen sixty eight series. Ten years later on oct. Sixth matthews probably isn't the record. But which player has the longest gap between world series. Hits sis is an interesting one and blue jays fans will be hoping that george springer will not be at the top of the list that he'll get another world series hit sometime soon. But i wanted to get an answer here. And so i consulted our frequent stat blast assistant at wizner and aspiring baseball operations employee. Himself which we wish him the best with and actually. I'll just let everyone know. I tweeted this from the effectively weld account. But adam now has a website it's called said or metrics with the earth being are the software and he has put Some of the apps that he has built the baseball projects he has worked on end some blog post where he explains how he has come to the answers that he has supplied to us for some status so at pretty cool i will link to it on the show page for anyone who wants to check it out. So adam did a little retro sheet querying and he came up with the answer for me here as kyle assumed it is not in fact. Eddie mathews with the longest gap in fact eddie. Mathews is in a ten way tie for seventeenth longest gap so there have been some pretty long layoffs between world series hits so the longest one. Is tony gwynn tony. Gwynn got a hit in the nineteen eighty four world series thirteenth eighty four and then got his next world series. Hit on october seventeenth. Nineteen ninety eight that is fourteen seasons fifty one hundred and seventeen days. That's a time to go but he did that. He is one of three players who have had fourteen year breaks between their world series. Hits the other two are dot kramer. Nineteen thirty one to nineteen forty five and rabbit ranville nineteen fourteen to nineteen twenty eight. Then there are four guys with twelve year gaps. Eddie murray eighty three to ninety five bill. Buckner seventy four to eighty six sherm. Lollar forty seven to fifty nine and joe sewell. Nineteen twenty to nineteen thirty two. Then i'll just read out the guys with eleven years. Dan driessen dwight evans. William as paul molitor roberto clementi dave winfield del rice freddie lindstrom and read shamed against so. I'll put the full list online as i usually do. In lincoln from the show page. But you know a lot of those names. I'm sure there are a lotta great players and hall of famers on that list as you would expect because to be good enough to be on. World series teams separated by a decade or more yet to be a pretty good player. Because if you're on a world series team you're probably still pretty good and if playing in the world series of getting a hit in a world series. You're probably still pretty good and so to have been good enough that you could go more than ten years and still be good enough to be a player who's getting opportunities to get a hit in world series. You gotta have a pretty good and long career so not a surprise that they're legends on that list. How long of a gap do you think you as a player would have to have between world series opportunities before you would correct a manager who included you as an example of the team having postseason experience. So you get It wears off if it's been more than a decade. I barely remember what that was like. I think that the the muscle would atrophy that you would first of all. I imagine that every player gets nervous before the world series regardless of how many times they've been there because it's the world series of course you do. It's a big deal. But i do magin that you know you get habituated to it a little bit. And so if there's a ten year gap you'd probably look around and be like manson. The guys i played against last time in the league anymore. This is different baseball now. I don't know how long it would be. But i think that ten years at that point you're like skip. I have bad news for you. I'm real nervous. Yeah some of these players may have been in the playoffs between those two schwarzer's hits of course so you might have gotten some other postseason experience. Yeah i tend to think that postseason experiences overrated anyway like maybe it leads to fewer butterflies but the russell carlton has looked into this and his found that there doesn't really seem to be any benefit when it comes to actual performance but but yeah it probably at least feels nice to have been there before especially on the biggest stage the world series stage. Where maybe you'd be nervous regardless but yelich nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight. Are you thinking i did this. In nineteen four fifty one hundred seventeen days ago. So i'm used to it. Probably not man. She so the like teams would be wearing different uniforms properly. You would have had you'd have you'd have different Different president you'd be like. Oh this is a totally different person. Perhaps several times probably technical in many ways. Yeah yeah there's probably technology that is not that wasn't an existence. 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Should the Blue Jays ditch the Rogers Centre? (Ep. 94)

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Should the Blue Jays ditch the Rogers Centre? (Ep. 94)

"Night can't hello and welcome step so ninety four of section one thirty eight. I'm your host mark collie as always. I'm joined by pricing. How are you doing good. How are you. I'm not bad and we don't have jacob with us today but we have probably the biggest piece of news we've ever had I'd say for like at least a couple of years. This is really big news for the blue jays. Of course this week if you don't know even living under a rock of course. Rogers is reportedly wanting to demolish the rogers centre and rebuild. Another stadium in its place if that plans fall through. They want to build a stadium on the lake. Front instilled most rogers centre. I assume So this is like i said. Probably the biggest news. We've had a couple years. If not longer i for me. I just wanna talk about first impressions of this news. Because for me. I woke up. I think it was friday morning. And i saw your text in our group chat saying we gotta talk about this on the podcast and i was like what i have not heard about this at all so then i got the notification from the globe in mail as well of course they reported i. I read that article. I posted about it on instagram and For me. I was elated about this news when i saw like was christmas morning. We've been waiting for this news for a while. we know. The rogers centre is very problematic. And i was over the moon. When i first saw the news because of course this was something we've been waiting for for years. We know the rogers centre needs to be fixed. This was a solution Those remind first impressions. I was surprised that some other people had different first impressions when i posted an instagram. But what did you think pricing. When i saw the news to be honest with you it kind of came out of nowhere again and a lot of these news. This offseasons come like. I've been surprised by a lot of this and this is his massive news. And you know it wasn't something where i was. My phone went off. I was just checking twitter fry. It was the morning. And i see roger center training second in the country. So i'm like okay here. We go again another debate about the ballparks. And then the first thing i see as a new a global headline news saying that rogers centre or rogers. Communications is like planning tear down the rogers centre and i my is completely like open up in. I was completely shocked by this news. By you know there is a base probably from your post as well mark. There's probably a lot of mixed emotions from what you saw people that support this and people that are against this end. I'm actually kinda surprised. The amount of people that were wanting to keep the rogers centre the people that were defending the rogers centre as much as a was but there was a lot of support and there was a lot of excitement of the potential of the possibility of a new stadium. Coming and the one thing we know about the rogers centre. You know from the outside. It probably doesn't have the best appearance it essentially. it's a really. It's a lot of concrete. That's that's one way to put it but to look at it from the inside perspective obviously with the roof open. It's a much better atmosphere. And you can see the cnn tower. Things like that around the game And you know the one thing rolling back that's always been the case is the fact that there's no artificial sort of there's no grass and it's artificial turf. That's the one thing. One of many are sorry. Just them in. The tropicana field are the only two stadiums that don't have actual natural grass. And then when you want to look at it from another perspective as much as you know i'm saying the the good things and bad things roger center roj. Jenner was home for a lot of blue jays memories. A lot of them. And that's why. I think you know this. This potential destruction of the stadium. Could you know somewhat. it's can't be as easy to get over just because of all the all the memories that happen here. you know. The jays of won the world series in the stadium. You know Back in nineteen ninety-three nineteen ninety-two. Do you know there was a massive viewing party at the rogers centre like viewing Place for people to watch when they won the world series is while nineteen ninety. Two and then i guess back in most recent days. You know the playoff fronts in twenty fifteen twenty sixteen just experiencing the stadium during the playoff run and how loud it could get because the dome can get very loud as it can hold almost sixty thousand people and then when you wanna look at it from another way it can also be very quiet and very empty when they are essentially competing so the one thing about roger center is. I have a lot of questions from this. And i'm sure you do too mark because you know looking at some of the reports in you know what we saw in the first article about it. You know saying that. The construction of this new potential ballpark take five to eight years. Where would they play. If they're gonna demolish roger center in rebuild from where rogers center currently is. That's one thing. I want to see address. Because i just when you look at other facilities in toronto. It's just doesn't seem very it. Just doesn't seem like there's an actual place right now for them to play. There's field but field. I don't know could be converted into a baseball lake Facility and i think that's pretty much the closest i guess venue city that could potentially hold a baseball Just a anything towards a baseball game but you know there's also the report that if it doesn't work out in the current location they can potentially build at a new site along the lakefront. And i think that you know for me personally. That's a much better option. And you know if you're gonna take five years to build this new stadium than at least you complain roger center until it's ready but lots of questions and You know as much as it. It's long overdue. As roger center has been outdated for quite some time. It's just said. I think it's i think it's time for a new building and you know the amount of costs. They have to make to keep roger center of float. Each year is substantial. And you know. The fact of the matter is building a new baseball stadium. That could hold you know. A smaller more baseball type stadium is actually cheaper and would actually benefit them much better and if you want to build a smaller stadium to hold you know forty forty five thousand seats at least said it would definitely look a little bit better just in case there wasn't a selo but lots of things to unfold here. Lots of questions because who knows. Even you know what's going to happen when this will happen because you know there were. It was confirmed that this was going on talks. Started going on before covid nineteen and you know that could have changed a lot right now in that could be there that could maybe cancelled it. But it's very interesting very exciting to hear that you know this is starting to be you know spoken about around rogers and there is so much we don't know but I think to me like. I thought it was a given that. No one liked roger center. Like i didn't know that there was still support for it. That people enjoyed it I i don't get me wrong. Enjoy the roger center and i have tons of memories. They're like a. That's where i grew up watching baseball. That's fell in love with baseball. Like there's a memories at the stadium that of course i wasn't there for like ninety three jamal. Joe carter twenty fifteen the backflip even if you go back to the all star game in the early nineties Tons of memories. That's a stadium that saw blue jay greats halladay come up and come into their own in the majors in early two thousands. You know you have other guys like vernon wells who play their time with blue jays air. Of course jose bautista more recently. But like there's so many memories there and not just for the blue jays bullet personally. Like i said that's where i fell in love with baseball. Like i remember sitting with my grandma and grandpa and like all my extended family watching baseball there and you know just going to games with different family members and you bryson. We went to a candidate. Game together and matt rob there as well from blue jays center so just so many different memories in this place and i'm not knocking that when i say that roger turner is one of the worst stadiums in baseball like it has a personal significance to a lot of fans myself included But is one of the worst stadiums in baseball. Like you said it's one of two that doesn't have real grass. I'd say it's one of the bottom three in baseball. If you want to look at it. From the perspective of oakland's tampa bay in toronto. I think it. It's probably between toronto and tampa bay auto. I think oakland can give him a run for their money when they have like sewer backup and have you know horrible stuff in the dugout and stuff but It is a really bad stadium. And i don't think. I think you can separate the personal importance evidence the significance of it for the blue jays from the actual accident. It's not a great stadium. So that's why. I was surprised when people were upset that this news came out because i thought everyone that i thought it was. I just an accepted. Fact that yeah. This was an incredibly important stadium for for not just for the blue jays but it does have historical significance in baseball when it was first made it was You know barrier breaking it was very significant in what it did to baseball just also turned out. It was one of the only types of that stadium that were ever made. It was one of the last of its kind. The multipurpose stadium of course a retractable dome was revolutionary. And we still see that used in baseball today in stadiums around Around major league baseball but it just didn't turn out to be the direction that baseball was going in. A couple years after his made camden yards in baltimore was made in that revolutionized the industry to a greater extent so it was one of the first of its kind who was also one of the last of its kind and it has not aged well again that does not mean it doesn't hold personal significance for us or significance for the blue jays. It just means that. It's not a great stadium To me it's like maybe. This is a strange analogy. But it's like if you get a new car like you like say you're driving. I don't i get two thousand six ford taurus lake like yeah like you got lots of memories in. It may be one on a road trip with your friends or like. It's your first car or something like that. And it's got all the quirks that you like and and stuff like that and maybe he'll be nostalgic about getting a new car. But like if you're getting a a tesla you're not gonna complain about getting rid of two thousand and six ford taurus. So that's that's kind of how i view this. Of course. you have lots of memories in the roger center but at the same time. If you're getting a new better ballpark like at some point. You're going to have to say goodbye to those memories and still be fond to the rogers centre but realize you're going to make new memories Have even greater stadium moving forward. Yeah you put it in. The fact is roger center. It did kind of run into it was it was it was bad luck because like you said once it came out it was this whole generational thing that had the roof at the hotel. It had many things it was. You know a significant upgrade from exhibition stadium. And then right after. Of course like you said. They ran in camden yards and many other parks and that quickly took roger center out of date. And that's the fact of the matter is You know for the longest time there was no you know only a couple of years ago. The rogers centre installed infield. It's been it's been only about four or five seasons and before that it's been nothing other than pure turf and Mark like you said it is bottom of the league and even if it not be thirtieth but it's closer to thirty than it would be somewhat to a pnc parker san francisco so that that is the thing and the other thing too is. Roger center was built as a multi purpose stadium. Like you said it. This potential new stadium could be strictly based on all like how much more of this benefit the team It outweighs keep playing a place like the roger center. I'm seeing a lot of people trying to connect the dots here to a potential nfl. I don't see it at all. I see i see jays. Are i see rogers installing this only for baseball purpose. Because of that's the case then. I would be interested in a new stadium. I think the only way this could work out at is if it's strictly baseball because the jays have been playing in a multi purpose stadium for quite some time now and That is one of the other things. And like i wanted to bring up to mark. I don't know what you think of. This is if this five eight year project term or like the length of it is accurate and they want to rebuild rogers center. Are the new park over where rogers center was like. What do you think options are for where this is going to be playing for that long. Because pretty much from what i've seen as well the interviews from the old mls. He had heard the chairman. He's pretty much been saying that. Roger centers so strong that even if you do like a a standard demolition like you see with other stadiums. It won't collapse like it would take years of going away at concrete and taking a down so i just. I don't know what the solution is if they're going to be playing at the current location but like i said if you want to build something around the lake front and then play a roger center until it's ready that's a whole different story but you know. This team was already away from toronto in twenty twenty. What's going to happen for the next five years of this actually goes through and the stadiums built over will rogers center currently is the way i interpreted because like we got five to eight year number in the global mail story the way i interpreted that was like two years for planning three years for actually building stadium and then like three years depending when all this entire process starts because we don't totally know the time line because of course there's messed up by the pandemic but i i think like if it does take three years to build which is again my interpretation by. I don't know if it's correct. I think that it won't mean three years at the blue jays aren't playing rogers center. We've seen other stadiums around baseball. Do it where. They're building stadium on the same location and they don't even miss a single season. Saint louis did it back in the early two thousands or mid thousands where they wanted to build a new busch stadium on the same grounds. That they the the old stadium on so they built like half like a crescent around the old stadium of the new stadium foundation. Leaving just kinda. The outfield unfinished was intersecting with the old stadium. And then in one offseason. They tore down. The old stadium built out the outfield and they are ready for opening day. So i think that's a possibility for the blue jays. Although like you said rogers center is a behemoth of concrete. It's not gonna fall easily. It's it's. I don't know why i don't wanna know how expensive it's going to be to demolish that because you can't just wait blow it up. I feel like 'cause it's just a concrete So i i. I think that makes the process more difficult. Maybe they have to miss one season. Well they demolished the roger center. But i think there is if a if planning goes if they get approval from the government because right now There there on approval from the government. They they haven't made a formal Submission to form occasions far as we know but the land rogers owns the rogers centre but they don't own the land that it's on. Its least from the canadian government. Until i think it's twenty eight thousand eight and it's only least for stadium use and that's the main problem because rogers wanted to tear down the rogers centre and build a new stadium plus condos retail space office buildings etc. So that's the problem with building a new stadium. It's at rogers. Want so they also do more with that land so they have to get approval from the government to use that land so if that approval comes through And they do end up demolishing the rogers centre building a new one in its place. i think they can do it because there's enough space on the land To kind of build them simultaneously right next to each other. Because if you look at the map The the land that they have There's i think it's bremner boulevard And there's some land on the other side of bremner that there's really nothing on it. It's just kind of a parking lot so if you kind of build just over bremner And you know like the blue jays sign is That you can have enough room to build like half the stadium demolished. Rogers turned building another stadium. So maybe they miss out on one season in. The rogers centre new knows whether they play in buffalo. Some people suggesting montreal. Although i don't think that's very likely although they do have the facilities for it but i think they would rather play in buffalo just because of travel considerations and everything. Like that but yeah. I think it's possible that they could stay in the same place in only missed one year. Not even any years at all if they work out the process correctly. But i think that's the main question that we have about this process Because i think all of the other questions are kind of just like I guess logistics like how long it's gonna take his cutter. But i think the question of where the blue jays will play is a question. That's very important to a lot of people because if they're not playing in toronto for like five years as can be really significant. It's a massive loss. But yeah like you said. I guess you guess you are right. They could get creative with the building process and like a like. I said there's a plan. B at the lakefront. Who knows house true. That isn't who knows like what potential sites there could be over there. I just don't know how that works. You know if you're moving locations as well you have to wonder the transportation that's going to take a lot of work as well the kind of figure out for people who are going to be going to game so i guess one of the benefits of keeping it at the current location where it is now is that you're kind of with how it works of transportation everything like that so it will be interesting to see but yeah i'm just i've been shocked at the amount of people who have been supporting keeping roger centers much as i have like like you said markets kind of seemed a slam dunk for people who kind of wanted this to happen. And we're looking for this to happen. Like i've already come across petitions where people are trying to sign it to save it I just. I'm kind of shot. Just a little bit shocked by it. But it's it's very interesting. It's very good news. The only thing about roger. Like i said as well. It's it's only thirty one years old. It's not relatively old. It's just it's very dated and Does take a lot to To keep afloat to keep steady. You know roof. The roof has over some changes every offseason. Kinda keep that going. you know. there's been a member even a couple years ago. There was a few times during the season where there was about. You know some pipe. Bursts were like their water flowing from everywhere. Just it just seems like sometimes it can be a bit of a mess to try to keep going and of course. There's the famous rain out. They had a couple of years ago where it was. I think snow went through the roof and they had to play a doubleheader against kansas city in april which was was falling from the rogers centre or from the tower tower hole in the rogers centre that that was very weird to see a doubleheader of roger center but it just it the problem with it. It's very costly to keep going. You know the one thing that people will probably have hard time letting go up again. Is the memories by. It is what it is. And we'll see how true this becomes. We'll see how significant or it progresses like because like we said things could have been changed because of the pandemic by the other thing too is i think one of the reasons why for me and mark. You probably could agree to you. Know the fact that you get to see other mlb stadiums and then when you want to compare it to the the rogers centre just a place that you see mostly are at least for me now as well But you know. I've already been to a few other stadiums. I'm sure you have as well and it just. Sometimes it kind of makes you look at rogers centre a little bit differently. Maybe maybe that's one of the reasons why is while i'm kind of very supportive of this new idea but i'm just again shocked with all the support rogers centre ad but we'll see what happens and You know. I think a new stadium it. It's been long overdue for quite a long time. So we'll see what happens but Very exciting news though. I'm not gonna lie and again very shocked that morning when the article came out and another thing about this plan that i think is important to talk about is the fact that from what we've heard from the global mail is that rogers wants to privately fund this with i think it's brooks is the real estate Company that they're trying to partner with yet brookfield asset management inc So i think that's another important consideration. Because if we were talking about rogers trying to pawn off all this money for demolishing the rogers centre building a new stadium onto the city. I think that would be different consideration entirely. Because if you're putting that money off onto the tax payers then it becomes a question. Well is this really necessary. Do we really have to invest this money now. can't we get a few more years of the rogers centre. Why don't we just do renovations instead of trying to build a whole 'nother stadium but when it's going to be privately funded or at least that's what they're saying right now. Because i i mean i. I don't think roger's can build a stadium and condos and real estate retail space with public money. If it's private money than i don't really have any complaints because like no taxpayers paying for it. It's it's all privately done and at the same time we get a new hopefully beautiful stadium. So yeah i think privately funding it gets rid of one of the key Potential complaints about it but yeah i. I was surprised that there was so much. Support for it I don't know if you have any final thoughts on this before we move on. Yeah just before that. Like you said the privately funded part of. It is probably going to keep the most realistic in the you know the fact that it could make it possible. Just out of all scenarios like you said if it's not privately funded that it becomes a fact that people not wanting to spend the money quite frankly so the fact that it is that's why it also kind of You know that was another thing that i think. A lot of people kind of overlooked is that it was going to be privately funded and it does change a lot of things and it would make the process a lot easier so like i said who knows how significant it is. We really don't know because the pandemic did change a lot of things. Maybe it's delayed a couple of years. We'll see but it will be interesting to see how true it is know. It's possible that maybe it's just a something that they've ultimately spoken about. Or maybe the something where. There's a legit plan in place. Maybe they already have a few models in place. Who knows but very exciting news. And we'll see what happens in the next few months of this kind of continues to gain traction while there's more happening this week than just roger centre although that was of course the big piece of news on the hot stove. There's lots more names at the blue jays have been connected to michael brantley justin turner gear richards hand. Gto yudo they've all been connected to the blue jays names on this list Maybe not the most surprising but the biggest names. And i guess in the case of jt real museo. The most surprising name is jt. Romeo i i don't think anyone expected the blue jays to be pursuing a catcher this offseason. Of course we've seen them pursue infielders. We've seen them pursue outfielders. We've seen them pursue pitchers relievers and starters but we hadn't heard anything about their interest in catchers until this report and it kind of came out of the blue Saw let's start there. Jt romeo Obviously an all star Obviously I'd say the best catcher on the market The phillies are not expected to resign him. Because they have. I think it was a two billion dollar loss this year or something. Absurd like that So what do you think of this. Do you think the blue jays needed catcher. If they signed g to immuno what did they do with. Reese mcguire what do they do with danny johnson. What do they do with al hundred kirk. There's been some speculation that they would flip one of them for pitching or an outfielder. Maybe even francisco door if they got. Jt realmuto So yeah what are your thoughts about this because it caught me off guard. Yeah this one. This one's weird because the amount of depth that the jas having the jason one of the best depth in the league in terms of catching. It's been well recognized around the game. Like you said. There is recent wireless. Danny janssen is alejandro kirk. You know even in the binder exists in riley adams. Like there's just there's a lot of names here and you know you wonder if you bring in. Jt room utah. Like i don't see the obviously he would slide in right away. But where does that leave. Danny janssen where does that leave. Someone like alejandro kirk. Who impressed in a lot in that final month of the season. I'm not too worried about the reese. Mcguire part he'd just because he was already kind of removed from the roster of one at some point during the season. But you know those players in particular. Danny janssen an ala ala kirk. Just you wonder what like you wonder. Just what the future is in like. you said. Mark the only way this truly possible if this does happen is there must be some sort of plan in place for them to flip them like you said and it actually kind of funny because i do remember when i gave you guys that kind of like trade offer another mock trade idea last week. Alejandro kirk wasn't included in that for franscisco indoor and we. Obviously you guys didn't agree with it. Which is fine but you know it makes sense if you want to bring in realmuto then possibly flip one. Because that's pretty much the only way this will work. Danny janssen came into the season as the starter. Alejandro kirk got more reps as the season went on and he was kind of more in the lineup for his batting and there is games where he would d. h. So that that's the other thing. You know danny janssen who's a great defensive catcher. Sewn you probably want to hold onto You know someone like alejandro kirk though. I just don't know what the future holds firm here if this is a significantly true of course. Jt realmuto would make the team a lot better and who knows how accurate is. Are you know how significant it is because this is one of the many names like you said it's been other outfielders and other players who have been you know included in the reese room this week. Weekend michael brantley. There's been turner. Like you said gary riches brad hand who you someone who i think would be a great fit here just because right now. The jays don't have closer for next year unless you pretty much give the role to someone like raphael. Which is possible because he did very good yet rejoin romano as well so a few other names and of course ken. Giles will not be back for in the you know in baseball for the next couple of years. And he is a free agent so he will not be back as of now so that. That's another question. Mark that you have there. So that. When i look at and i think that one makes a lot of sense even with the other outfielders infield is like we said. There's a lot of names so there's a lot of contingency plans to jays have. I'm sure there's a lot of in terms of their q. Of who they want to pursue. These are names. Also behind players like george springer and then you know the fact is elliott. Jt realmuto would be the only catcher that they're looking at right now so Makes the team better. yes What do they do with the other players in the organization. That's another question that would have to be addressed and will need to be addressed. Because like like i said there's a lot of depth here and you know you have to imagine that the jays would use that asset to their advantage. They're looking to flip one. But yeah mark you think about this. Jt i liked the way he. I love the way he plays. Obviously is one of the best coaches in the game. But you know. I just where do you. I just don't know where this would make sense within the depth chart here. But i'm just not too sure about this one. Yeah it's it's strange. And i know you mentioned the speculation about linda. There's also been speculation that the blue jays would get real nudo in then. Apparently the rays are needing a catcher. So they train them to the rays and the rays are also looking to trade or willing to trade blake snell so trade. One of their catchers for weeks snell. It's a lot of I guess conspiracy conspiracy theories a lot of dots. I'm like i said i i don't really understand it. I know the blue jays are casting a wide net. They're really saying we'll take anyone and we'll make it work internally as long as we get the best players on the market And no one's saying that j. t. Rowe is in a great player. i think he's one of if not the best catchers in baseball at a a war of at least four point four for the past three years So he's incredible like no one is denying that he had twenty five home runs in two thousand nine hundred and he's a great guy you gotta. Mvp votes this year. He has won a gold glove award for a few years at a row He's incredible But i don't think he really fits with the blue jays and i think Even though the blue jays strategy this offseason seems to be. Let's cast a wide net. See whatever we can get. And then we'll work it out internally. I think that works for an infielder. I think that's obviously working for an outfielder. The planes to trade ramel grishik that obviously works for a pitcher because they don't need to move anything to make a pitcher fit in because they need pitchers but i don't think it works for catcher. I think that's like the one position maybe catcher first base latched d. h. are the positions at. This doesn't work for any other position. They would work for but i think catcher. There's just too many dots that need to be connected to make it work. And i think it's a oh one step too far for the blue jays to go after a guy like ramiro. I think that money is much better. Spent on a guy like george springer which apparently talks are progressing. We've heard I think you're shaida. Vdi who reported that The bluejays are more involved with george springer than they are with some other free agents. So i would much rather them spend that money george springer than or even a guy like dj then jt romeo and like you said mark From the years two thousand seventeen. Twenty nineteen He had a war of four point. Four and twenty seventeen four point five in twenty eight hundred twenty nineteen and this past year was at one point two but of course a lot of asterix are being placed beside everyone stats twenty twenty with shortened season. But yeah it's sums it up perfectly because it's the one position where you have all this depth and the now you want to spend money on something that it just feels like you don't need it as much as it's crazy because of how good a he is but when you look at it the detrick you have right now. You don't need him. And you have danny janssen. You have alejandro kirk and of an alejandro kirk. I think is going to have a massive role in twenty twenty one. He's definitely gonna be making the team. Who knows you know. You can't rule out the potential that he may get more starts jansen at some point but johnson i liked because of course hundred res very familiar with the likes of course. Dana johnson was the only one that pretty much caught him last year. But yeah but going. Back to the george springer tropic. It's not surprising. And i think all three of us. I can't remember last week. Predicted that if the jays to get one of these names would be george springer I can't remember if you guys set a to. I make sense and i think it does make sense and i just would not be surprised that this happened. I have a very. I'm very optimistic with us. And like i said this is much as it's coming from the astros. He's just he's a he's a really good player. I think he makes us team a lot better in it. It is a massive upgrade for this team so hopefully within the next couple of weeks something happens as well as to give us the content but because it just you know just to see something actually happened just because a lot of people have been very upset or bothered by how interested in everyone but it will. We'll bring that up later you know just lots of upgrades or lots of potential names around the rumor mill. It's like i said it's i like it. I like how seen the jays interested in all these players because it sums it up that they're being being aggressive or because we're hearing from somewhere and i'd rather them be interested in the entire league rather than than not being interested in anyone and then when you don't hear about them being interested in anyone people wonder what's going on with the team then that's why we'll we'll bring that up in bed but yeah just jt realmuto. It just doesn't make sense to me. But unless there's another trade in place like i said or at like anybody would say it. Would it only makes sense that you would flip them for something else with the depth that you have because you can't do it but i just don't think it's a need for them But i like. I like Other than those names. The one that i like as well as brad hand because i just think that would make sense who knows how expensive or what he's looking for I wouldn't look to over spit on like brad hand as well. Just because he is a closer he is so that. That's the one thing i wanna Just remember as well but george springer. I really hope this happens and it's good. That talks are progressing. It's really good. That we keep hearing about brad hand is of all the names. We've heard about this week brad. Hand makes the most sense. Surprisingly bluejeans haven't been connected to a lot of pictures and as you mentioned people have been upset not just about the fact that it's been all talk no action so far this offseason but also because they haven't really shown that much interest in pitchers or at least what we've heard about but brad hand would make perfect sense. He's a great pitcher And mike come at a little bit of a cheaper cost at least just because of the situation that all pitchers and all players are in this season. But you know he's thirty years old led all of baseball with sixteen saves twenty twenty had an era of two point zero five over twenty two innings and his fifth was even better at one point. Three seven He's a great lefty arm. Out of the pen would be fantastic closer for the blue jays. there's really no nothing to be upset about here because it would be a great deal and it makes perfect sense for toronto but some of the other names have been connected with on only infielder. They were connected with was justin turner Who in my opinion wouldn't be that great effect just because he's older like he's a great player. All these guys are great players but he is a little bit older And i don't think he'd totally fits with the blue jays schedule for years to come but maybe that means he's cheaper. Maybe that means the blue jays like him because of his veteran influence I don't know if there's much talk show here because we've already talked about infield versatility and outfield versatility to death but Yeah i'm not totally fond of justin turner. But i wouldn't complain about it. I mean i have. I've personal thoughts about him personally because of Him going on the field after the world series despite testing positive for covid But professionally looking at his stats. I wouldn't complain too much. Besides from is as a aside from his age. yeah. I'm sorry. But the only thing i can think of right now with justin turner is just that moment. I don't know how long it's gonna last. But when i just hear justin turner i just. That's remember from the world series. Then you know what. I just remember what how danger. That was dangerous. Because like i said if the raise one that game there would have been a game seven that would have been very bad and That was a major bullet that was dodge but anyways justin turner. That's another one. I just don't see that is a good fit here as well If he was to come here he just doesn't seem like he'd have a lot of playing time. I just feel like his role would be reduced a bit. He would be playing the odd. I just don't think he would be playing every day. There's not really room from in this lineup. We we know about the infield being crowded but the maybe the veteran influence is something that they're looking at and You know someone like him. I just feel like he's going to do everything you can go back to. The dodgers some some sort of discount but who knows what happens with him and he's getting up there as well with age but a very good baseball player all around but yeah something that i haven't really taken seriously with is justin turner. I'm not sure appreciate your out with this as well than the kind of the same type of thing with michael brantley brantley couple years younger. He's thirty three as opposed to justin turner. Who is thirty five. I think he's starting thirty six before the start of next season so i a little bit younger but i think it's the same type of thing i think. The blue jays are looking for a guy like george springer who can be with the team for years to come in. Can you know continue to produce instead of leveling off or or dipping whereas i think michael brantley justin turner. Both those types of players are going to Drop in production just as a factor of their age As things progress. And i don't think that Lines up with the blue jays want long-term The last name we haven't talked about. I mentioned briefly. Garrett richards connected to him yesterday apparently they have preliminary interest. I don't know how that differs from just flat out entrust but this was being reported by. Ben nicholson service. Excuse me ben. Nicholson smith and arden's welling on their podcast at the letters Richards has a very long and complicated history with arm injuries He hasn't had a full major league season since. Two thousand fifteen Due to a long string of arm injuries including tommy. John surgery in two thousand eighteen before that he was recommended for tommy john surgery in twenty seventeen i think he avoided it by having some other surgery or rehab or something like that. I didn't totally look into the details. But he has a long history with arm. Injuries was his first full season. Even though it was only ten ten starts but he posted a four point zero three yards away at the age of thirty two What do you think about this. I mean he's not the high impact guy he would in in. My view is kind of more like a match shoemaker. Type guy like a guy who doesn't have a long history of being healthy but when he is healthy he's good so i think that's where richards kind of fit into the blue jays hump plan for things of course. Matt shoemaker. didn't totally work out. Even though he was good when he was healthy but he just wasn't healthy So what do you think about this. Yeah it's a risk just because of his health like you said Yeah going back to twenty fifteen. It was last start of ours. Lesson of making playing a full season with thirty two starts. twenty sixteen twenty seventeen six starts each two thousand eighteen with sixteen starts which is not bad but still pretty much half of a season. Twenty nine hundred only three starts in this year. Maybe one maybe. He benefited from the salahuddin. Sherline of pitchers as much as there was a lot of injuries. Around the game. This jerem sherlock pitches benefited from a shortened season. Who managed to stay healthy. Who had troubles or injury troubles in their past. But yeah gary richards would definitely be kind of like the back end of a rotation kinda guy. A good comparison would be Shoemakers while i just i guess just look. It feels like matchmaker won't be back next year. we haven't really heard anything in another one. We haven't really heard of taiwan walker but maybe that just means he's just expressing offers anywhere or maybe the you know. You have to wait for top dog dominos to fall. But you're richards. You would definitely be a safe. Pick to kind of fall back to plans. Don't work out in terms of a plan. A or plan. B and You know he's got a solid career as just above three and a half. so he's been. He's a solid pitcher. There's nothing wrong with him at all. you know not a superstar. But he's he's a good he's a good guy that went healthy would give you innings and Like i said a good safety kind of option for them to fall back to if things don't go maybe later in the offseason but yet nothing nothing against garbage cans at all. I think he'd be decent fit here as well but yeah he would definitely be kind of a three four. Maybe five started depending on how many additions they make within the next few months. Oh not surprising. Again to see someone like era richest pop up on the radar and then the last thing we wanted to talk about You alluded to it earlier in It seems like the most popular and trendy hot take with a blue jays. Right now is to say that they are not doing anything. They're they're just window shopping. They're interested in everyone but they're not gonna actually do anything and we can't read anything we can't read at all into the reports are interested in someone just because they're interested in everyone. They're not actually going to end up. Anything and people are saying. It's like that it's like this offseason higher jin you would like a word. He of course blue jays do stuff in the offseason. They make these big deals. Of course they're not going to get everyone but i don't understand the the the mindset or the the opinion that the blue jays are just window shopping and they're not going to do anything we know they want to do. It makes sense for them to do stuff because they have the competitive schedule lined up. They have all the players internally that lineup to compete next year I don't understand why people think that the blue aren't going to do something to me. It's clear they're going to do something is just a matter of when and how much you know. I think adam minimum. They're gonna sign one high impact player. Whether it's george george springer. We talked about whether. That's jake. Go to resume whether that's dj. Lemay you whether that's long. I think they're going to get one of those big names And a couple of smaller names along the way. But i don't understand why people are saying the blue jays never do anything when clearly. They made a huge splash. In last year's off season with how to a four year eighty million dollar deal which is one of the largest free agent contracts ever in blue jays history. So i don't. I don't understand why people are saying this and frankly to me it's laughable. I don't know what you think prison yet. As far as i'm concerned none of these top agents have signed anywhere yet. So i just. That's another thing and yet it's i just look at it because i'm seeing a two and i just i just don't understand why people are reacting the way they are because like you said Hundred last year. One of the biggest signings i believe it may have been the biggest signing in franchise history and we know that rogers has the money to spend and we know that they are looking to spend. And you know that's the best we can take out of it. But i think last offseason kind of prove that they are willing to do it but the the funny part for me is the thing that i laugh at is when you don't hear anything about them being interested in anyone you hear the exact same thing here the exact same blowback because you know you hear people say all of these teams not never gonna get better. This teams never gonna head in the right direction. And i'm talking about pretty much the offseasons from the past couple of years when they started their rebuilt. Because i pretty much witnessed it all all the time. I'm sure you have to the amount of times. Why are we sending these players wire wiser so many sightings about these guys getting invites to spring training. How have never heard of this guy. But now when you look at these rumors now when you're seeing actual names that people know of around the game people are having a problem with that in. Wouldn't you rather the team be interested in pretty much. Everyone rather than nobody especially a team. That is said many times that they are looking at making a substantial upgrade. This offseason i. Just i don't understand it at all. I just it. It kind of bothers me a little bit. Because i don't know i just it it li- i laugh at it but it also bothers me because i just don't understand why they react the way they do and like i said no free agents signed yet That's that's the one thing i want. Everyone remember too is. These names are still out there so clearly. The jays aren't doing anything wrong. And i'm sure right now. They're doing everything we're not even in december as well. It gets november twenty ninth. The winter meetings have even happened yet. We are sweet like the offseasons barely begun and this is how it always starts pretty much every sport it starts with interest everywhere and then as you kind of have a read for the market. Then that's when you go in and potentially attempt to make signings. Why rush things now. Why why not be able to kind of think about it. I just it baffles me. How people get upset with that. But like i said when when you don't hear anything about being interested in anyone then you hear the exact same thing so i don't know what it is with people's demands by an another thing too. Is that this team. Or i'm sure fans as well are anxious because of how good they were. You know they were good this year. They made the playoffs. And i'm sure there have higher expectations like we said we know that for a fact based off the results last year. But you know people you've got to give them some time like everyone still on the market. Nothing's happened yet. Like it's just not. It's not like everyone signing everyone in the jason. Just saying we're interested in this guy interested in this guy. Everyone's playing the exact same game right now in. Why rushton's when you're pretty much at the same playing field as everyone else right now. I just i don't know what else do you think. Mark yeah just it. I don't know why i just laugh. It a bothers me a bit. That people are reacting. The way they are. It's a great way to say it. Everyone's playing the same game right now. The blue jays are not you know Standing out in any way except for the fact that they're interested in more guys like no one has signed the big names. There's a reason. Why george springer dj lemay you to razzie. There's a reason why these guys are still on the market. It's because no one has signed anyone yet. We're not even a full month into the offseason. So i yeah it it. It's kind of it's annoying. If i'm being frank and i think part of this mindset comes from like twenty fifteen such twenty-six when the blue jays like they had david price but they didn't sign david price they had edwin encarnacion. They didn't sign him. They lost out on him to cleveland. They had jose bautista but they didn't sign him to a big extension. It was just a one year deal. But i think there's a big difference between the situation then and the situation now the blue jays in two thousand fifteen in two thousand sixteen at the end of their competitive schedule. They were at their peak. They went down from there. The blue jays now are in a very different situation. They are ramping up instead of slowing down so even if it we don't have to take the front office at their word we don't have to take the rumors out for what they are. We know that these are being reported and even if we ignored what the front office is saying even if we ignored what these rumors are saying we can just use our brains and realize the blue jays need better players right now and they're ready to be competitive which is very different from where they were like i said in two thousand fifteen in two thousand sixteen so i like you said i don't understand it. Everyone's playing the same game and I do think one important thing to remember here. Is that like where these rumors are coming from. Because i think the fact that loses have said very openly. They're going to be very aggressive and competitive. His offseason lends some agents to connect them their their players with the blue jays. Like some of these rumors are not going to be true. Some of them are just gonna be agents saying hey. The blue jays are being aggressive. Let's say the blue jays are interested in jt realmuto so that the other teams entrusted nj tea room. Yudo feel pressure to work more fast and be more aggressive in their pursuit of him. Right so we can. We can understand that. Some of these rumors aren't true but at the same time even if some of them aren't true even if we know that some of them are being exaggerated and some of them are being fabricated. It doesn't matter because we know the situation. The blue jays are in. We know they want free agents. We know they want high impact player. So just yeah. It doesn't make sense and You put it perfectly. Everyone's playing the same game. So i get frustrated at the blues and the best part is is if the jays make this edition the amount of people that will completely change the way. They're thinking it's just funny. How quickly people react and how quick people change but like this happens in every sport. I don't know why it's anything new to people that it starts with interest. Like i just i don't understand it by yeah i just. I don't know. I just people are anxious sherbet. Like don't take it out on anybody else that you're trying to report news and give people information like you said like this is the offseason out of the first time in pretty much ever since shapiro and atkins have been here where they have openly said that they are looking for a substantial upgrade and they have said on many different occasions. Many different radio shows many different interviews and many agents to talking about scott. Boris is even said that as much as he could be goofball around the game he is the most popular powerful agent in professional sports. So the fact that he's even bring that up you have to like you said to understand where the rooms are coming from. Yeah some of the may not be accurate. May some may be doing doing that on purpose but a lot of them are true and a lot of them are factual that the jays are looking to do this looking to do that but just patients it's not even december like oh my i just i'm gonna be very i'm gonna that's gonna be even more funny though if they make a big signing a trade the amount of people that will change the way of thinking and how they will celebrate and like but i like this team signed spent one of the most spent money on hundred or less you're eighty million dollars like you said markets like it was a year ago they made this signing and everyone right at the front because it was the exact same thing. Nobody thought it was going to happen. Nobody thought it was going to happen when it happened. People freaked out and people were excited. So it's probably going to happen again this year with somebody if they bring him in and you're going to see the exact same reaction but like i said just it's not even december like we have so much more to go like the winter meetings even here yet let them let the market kind of play on the way it is like it always does and you know if you're not going to be the first will make a big signing than just like. I said they're doing nothing wrong. Everyone's kind of taking it slow which is fine then. It's barely started anyway. So you know that. Someone's going to pick up because it has to because spring training will come sooner rather than later so Patients by you know. I'm like i said i'm i'd rather them be interested in everyone rather than you not hearing about anything until the the week before spring training where you're adding and bringing in random guys for Invitations to spring training so nothing bothers me with it right now. So we'll see what happens though within the next i guess within this month now as we head into december and with review. I don't think from a memory correctly. i don't think we heard anything about it beforehand. I think it just happened. And it kind of came out of the blue so like i think even if the blue jays interested in all these guys they may not get the guys are interested in. But they're gonna get someone like i like just for anyone who's maybe anxious or concerned about this. I would just say like cut through the noise realize the situation. The blue jays are in and what they've they they have to do based on the situation they're in and just say they're going to go out and get some guys and i mean what's the analogies. I think scott boras used the analogy. I mean he loves his analogies but he said like the blue jays have the the lamp now they just need the light bulb or something like that. I am basically saying like the blue jays. Have all the support. They need another just need a star to carry them over the finish. Line i think. That's it's a straightened analogy scuppers. You know he's known to be like you said goofball but it worked like it's true they just need someone to carry them over the finish line and by all indications. That's what they're going to do with this offseason so Yeah just take a chill pill. It's only november known. Signed anyone big yet. Just calm down and take a moment. Yeah i was gonna ask you questions live just pretty big news a couple days ago to the future of the jays pretty much radio or the broadcast booth mike. Wilner was go by sports. Not just want to get your quick thoughts mark on the what. You thought of mike. Wilner much as he was the past couple of years he was doing play by play. And before that. I'm sure everyone remembers him. Being famous. the famous host of blue jays. talk what are your that. Cut another thing. That kinda came out of nowhere. What are your thoughts on that. And where you a big fan of mike wilner. Yeah i like mike wilner. I think he did a good job. And if this was a normal week we would have been leading with tokyo. Mike wilder instead of him being an afterthought but because we had so much crazy news this week. It's just like a lasting. We're talking about here. But yeah i liked him. I think it's strange the way he's leaving I think there's probably stuff happening behind the scenes that were not seeing and i have no idea what that is or what it could be But it's unfortunate that it's ending this way But yeah. I really liked him. I think he did a really good job. Of course i'm blue jay talk. I think he was fantastic on that. I know he was combative. And some people didn't like that about him but i. I think he did a fantastic job with that. I think i really enjoyed his Play-by-play i i mean. My favorite call of his was. I think it was Vladimir guerrero junior two thousand eighteen spring training when he hit the walk off home. Run in montreal. I my favorite memory of him just because the way he called it. It was so energetic is fantastic. I think he was really good at what he did and It's a shame that has to end this. But i mean i'm sure he's gonna find opportunities elsewhere and maybe this is just a better opportunity for him because i feel like the pipeline in terms of talent in terms of Opportunities in toronto was kind of clogged with all these different guys that they have. They have a lot of talent both on the radio and tv side of things. So maybe this is an opportunity for him to go elsewhere and Find success and find more opportunity elsewhere. Yeah i liked him and social has to end this way. Yeah like you said. Sports is sportscenter is very it's fantastic. Where the blue jays coverage in. Yes someone again who's taken the name by was ben wagner. Who's done a fantastic job in his two years but it is mike will not go. I've always liked mike wilner. Yeah i just it was. It's a little bit strange. The way it ended by just remember the one time a couple of years ago when i ran into boylston street in boston when he was going to fenway park he was very nice. So i just. That's the one memory i have. I guess meeting. Mike wilner but he. I've called the newest show a few times but not a lot. But i loved i used to always love listening to it after the game the kind of kind of to after he kind of was replaced as the host just because it wasn't the same with them by very sad to see him go but i'm sure like you said mark with the basement Knowledge he has he will find an opportunity elsewhere and he did a terrific job in his. You know his stint with sports net and rogers which lasted a long a very long time. So you know best. Select him in his future. But yeah just wanted to ask you about that quickly before we wrap things up. He's been an on air talent. I think since thousand and two. I don't know if that's how long he's been doing bluejays talk but he pretty much was blue talking like you sound like i even listened to it since he's stopped doing it. I i can really care less about it. And it was really his show. He was yeah best of luck to him and what he does in the future but that wraps up what we're talking today so thank you to everyone who listen to this episode of section one. Thirty eight as always. You can read review us on apple podcasts. Or just tell a friend about our podcast. You can stay up today with everything. We're doing by following at section one thirty pod. That's on instagram and twitter. So thanks for listening to this weekend. We'll catch you maybe guy.

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 903  Spring Standouts, NL Central + NL West Closers

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 903 Spring Standouts, NL Central + NL West Closers

"Hello episode nine. Three of the sleeper and the bus eight is thursday march eleventh. I'm your host paul. Spor join this morning by justin mason just in good morning sir. Good morning how you doing. I am well. Baseball's the air and a lot of draft crap going on. I beat pulse. Moore's tomorrow night nine. Pm central time it'll be on twitch twitch dot tv slash more come through see See if see if folks can take me down then again afternoon. One on on monday afternoon the fifteenth with our mutual friend colin weather two of our mutual friends dusty wagner and cohen weather wax in that one. So i'm very excited for both those drafts bullshit. By the way. I know you so mad and i love it i have. I've stolen your friend. Yeah yeah. I've completed stops fantasy baseball. And he's all i'm play one league and it's going to be the beat paul sport that we hang out every night he hangs out in the tweet stream we where hooping together I'm sorry you've been replaced. Get out of here. In fact big news weather wax new podcast go home. He'd be a good choice. Hollywood voice is amazing is remarkably smart calling it seriously. One of the best guys actually Hilariously enough going to be in town And possibly four the drafts. They might be on my stream on monday when we do the when we do the draft cause to be in town for for work so But no seriously he's he's awesome And he was going to kind of take the year off. And i was like there's one more spot i'm just saying it would really piss just off. I think that's what sold on. I said yeah. Yeah yeah. I mean this was your mistake. Because he's also really really good point. That's the tough part is that he's awesome and so is dusty. So it's like. I encourage them to get in But they're really gonna live up to the name of the league import Because they're both incredible. So i made life much more difficult myself but also got too bad ass in league among others. By the way there's a few others from my twitch stream that are going to be in in each of the drafts some really happy about that should be a lot of fun. Big thing senate bc. For let me do that and I'm very excited to broadcast. Both those can see him on twitch dot tv slash spor and be a lot of fun. Let's talk Let's talk one big piece of news. Which is unfortunate then some spring standouts. I wanna see if you're moving them up your board or not based on these early offensive. You know explosions here. And then we're get into the central and west causes from the national league. We're going to wrap it up today. We're done talking causes. They both drive the drive. Both of us nuts and We're done you know we don't want to talk about them anymore. Right now. it's been a headache. We'll take the appropriate time to get to these two divisions. But then after that i wanna i wanna breathe from causes because they just bother me. You know it's going to be a nightmare this but let's start with the bad news unfortunately forced whitley going to have tommy john man and listen. I know there's been some self-inflicted stuff Some get some off the field that he has to kinda keep keep in check But do can't catch a break 'cause even as he's kinda fixing everything on the on the off the field side and kind of getting his mind right and get ready to go now. He deals with this. And now it's another year to fifteen months before we're going to see the the one time mega prospect in the majors. At this point. I mean you just can't have the same outlook for him that his prospect status suggested right. Yeah i mean it point. I mean this is the hard part about investing in prospect pitchers. Right for is people have been waiting forever for him. Because he's been one of the top if not the top pitching prospect in baseball and be does pitching's hartman and can be an issue and learning proper mechanics. And you know this is why you had the old podcast tint stat. Podcast right now. There's no such thing as a pitching prospect so Yeah unfortunately i think in obviously is talking about for dynasty leagues. I pretty much would take whatever. I could get form in this point. Oh yeah i mean. I i would even i. I really wouldn't even be that interested in china. Hold them and i think i think you could make a trade somewhere but push came to shove. And you're looking at like james anderson or Is it welsh's list or even mine but there's are better. I will freely admit that they. I took my first foray into it and i feel good about what i put together but They're awesome as well. But if you'll get dynasty list you kind of found a pet player that you really liked and you had to cut somebody and it was. It was whitley. I honestly wouldn't have a problem with that. I really wouldn't because in addition to being out now for the next year plus he doesn't have one hundred innings in a single season. So what's even going to do when he gets back so you're waiting on him that much longer. Remember in nineteen. He couldn't get the call even as they needed guys. It was just kept bypassing him because he was having such a struggle at triple a. So yeah i really. I don't see any reason to To have him all that high on. I had one. Oh six on my list. But for this obviously i mean when i update. He's only have my my top two hundred. And i don't think that's out of bounds. No i don't either. I mean at this point yes the show some we can even buy back in. Yep yep that's where it's at with With whitley does kind of potential leg of depth out from under houston but even they they. Weren't you know. I don't think we said were in one about him when i went down. Maybe a passing mention. Yeah i think. I mentioned what Ken goldstein had said in his chat. Which is he's the widest range of outcomes of yeah pitcher in the minor leagues yet. You you did mention that. And and this just adds to the volatility of course wish him the best With with the recovery and everything. But this is this is really tough laura. Let's talk let's talk on the positive end spring standouts Some hitters just going off. And they didn't include bobby dalbec on this because we talked about him last episode. So if you want to hear somebody bank information he hit another homer. I think a grand slam yesterday since we did that. So he just. He's adding to that spring hype right now but let's say let's start with somebody who's very easy for him to drum up some hype and that is joey gallo. He's already got five spring homers. Now he's had an interesting. trajectory member. Had the breakout in in nineteen seventy games but it had to fifty three average and everyone was really excited about it. And i remember i had my trepidation on it because a lot of it was built on a three thirty three average against lefties which included a five hundred bab so obviously now a little touch. It's a touch high and everything came crashing back to earth last year Boyd fifty seven games so almost the full season hit one. Eighty one went back to a one forty-three average one. Sixty one bab combo against lefties so the complete opposite end of the spectrum there But i i still think that's more in line with what you should be expecting between like. Yes he'll be one forty three one sixty one this year. I feel pretty good about that. He should be in the low two hundreds but the two fifty three average to me was never never in play and so we love the power and this is what he can do five homers and like what seven eight games in spring training. But is he somebody that you're moving up board based on this or is this. Just you know a gallo run. That were familiar that we know can happen because he is moving up on board. So if you're not moving then you're probably not getting them because folks are definitely doing that. This is difficult. Because i mean we know that gallows power. I mean yell things being equal. He's probably got the most amount of power in the major leagues. They certainly in conversation. If if not the most yes yes so like him. Hitting a bunch of spring home runs doesn't necessarily move the needle for me. Necessarily what does move the needle. A little bit is that he made some mechanical changes to swing. Okay and so. I'm there's part of me it's like ooh will this help. Pimm maybe make a little bit more. Contact 'cause the problem isn't necessarily that he can't power he's always been able to for power. I mean power. God even even while making limited contact. He has to forty homer seasons neither of which saw him bat over to ten though The problem is he's got a career. Sixty percent contact percentage in a career. Eighteen percent swing strike percentage And so i'm more interested to see how much contact he's been making during spring and i honestly haven't a chance to go look at the numbers. Yes three strikeouts in In i'll tell you the bank count in fourteen at bats. Only one walks fifteen plate appearances. Three strikeouts it's not an bad for him. Fine yeah funny percent. Honestly if his if his strikeout rate starts with two that'd be that'd be big for joey gallo if you do that for a full season because with that kind of power that that'd be the best he ever had what what's his best air on his right now. Right yeah was last. Year is thirty five percent. So yeah i mean i guess anything with to even twenty nine would be six points shaved off Let alone if he was able to get to the mid or low twos. Then then you would start to see something with batting average being in play of a to thirty plus which would be so much more palatable And then you know fifty homers earn playing all that so at twenty seven. I don't think he's completely finished product and if he's making some changes i like that But for me. I gotta go in until i really see something. Gotta go in thinking. It's a low two hundreds average forty homers an and and you know five seven steals. I liked the county categories there that batting average really have to plan around it and it can't just be one player you can't just say. Dj lemay hugh. And you're good because then everybody else has to be above a certain threshold. So i think you need like two maybe three batting average forces to really negate gallo and take him on and i mean if you if you just pair them with one guy that one guy doesn't deliver liquid and we feel really about digital but let's say you did with like michael brantley right and then michael brantley has to thirty five. If that year it just gets really unlucky or Indebting dental want if he just hits like two eighty which is good but not enough. We're gonna counter. Yes yes has a yeah has to eighty plate appearance you know. What if what if that's what it. Yes and there's things that could have like even digital mayhew to counterbalance gallo. You're hoping for three something. What if he just a quality to ninety one which would be a good season but it wouldn't do what it was supposed to to tip the scales for gala. So that's the tough part about going on one guy. You need a base of average to take that on. But i mean he is a guy that with a dead ball in everybody else's power. Number's going down. He's got real manpower. He's not his will. Not i mean like yeah the the stanton's judges and gals they might be affected a little bit by one here and there but to the degree of they're not going to lose five baseline seven owners. Now chance no chance. Because i mean they they call the ball so far that it's going four hundred instead of four twenty. Maybe that's kind of what we're talking about them so Probably haven't been completed drafts to see a move on gallo yet. But i imagine you'll highlight him In your next update once we get some drafts in to see if it's affecting him. Yeah and there should be a new update probably probably next week. Sometime art running out of time in the pre true. And there's some i have so much depose i may end up just having to do double posts A few times next week just to try to get as much in before people do all their drafts. And can't we only in march eleven in really is like it's it's time i mean it's unbelievable. So yeah that's joey gallo will move up. I'd be careful don't overrated if people in in your league wanna go crazy Let them but if he stays around a fair price. You can invest but plan plan properly for. You will be hurt by that batting average. Let's talk about a detroit. Tiger will the castro with three home runs already. I'm pretty impressed by that. Because i mean it's just it's three homers and spring. But i like seeing a little pop there from castro. 'cause that's not he projects to be kind of like a bit of everything. Sorta guys like a like a fifteen twelve seventy five sorta guy to where it adds up to an eighteen to twenty dollar player if he played six hundred point appearances but nothing stands out so see three homers. Here probably just a hot stretch. But what do you think he had a nice. Little breakout with the tigers in his thirty sixth grade game stint last year. One hundred forty plate appearances of a one fifty plus with six homers. We're not expecting anything like that. But i guess what's your general vibe on here overall maybe not influenced by the three homers but just Where he out on the twenty four year old willy castro in general Prior to like a few days ago. I kind of been completely out In his profile coming up the minor leagues was a guy who wasn't gonna flash very much power and You know his biggest asset was gonna be stolen bases on a team that i don't know that's gonna run very much considering you know. Aj is you know tendencies when he was in houston and i wonder if he if you let a a rebuilding team run a little bit more and more. I wonder i don't know for sure this. I'm i'm just super curious about it because you know kinda why not. Maybe make some things happen on the basis. It made me. I think there may be some opportunities but it's also like a kind of a big slow team for them spot and to your point by lake castro's to in the majors one hundred Is two hundred and fifty plate appearances. So he hasn't run yet. This is hinge. It's a new manager and they're not like you said they're not set up to run victories when he plays she probably have a green light. Jacoby jones should have greenish light. And then we're hoping cash. Oh can get kind of a a yellow green light himself but everybody else their hobby. No yeah yeah. Four to seven himself but then everybody else should be parked on first base when they get there and not even looking good another one but he's not a starter while victory as might not be a starter either. A a short side platoon Which is kind of crazy. But again. Back to castro. He has hit either five or six balls this spring already over hundred miles an hour okay. So he's not your stroke and he's doing something that i think is really important for young player that we don't talk about in fantasy which is playing really really good defense yes is that solidifies your spot And so i had been kind of out on him And now. I'm starting to change my tune a little bit. I'm drop in my second base. Ranks tomorrow on some might my third shortstop Won't be out until probably monday maybe over the weekend. We'll see But you re redoing new comments. Some of them like when they need to be updated. Okay you know but a demand we're talking like fifty positions so that that's the thing they're harder than you think at least for me because you know some of them you can just say something like you said bobby dalbec. He's that just came here head right away but if you want to quote a status on the digging you've got to find the little tin bit. Those comments are more challenging than i think they might. They might appear. I forgot to update. Cj crohn's like i moved him up the rankings he went from like you know the fortieth first baseman to the sixteenth first baseman But i forgot to change that needs a home and everybody in the comments section. This morning was oh. He signed a month ago. I'm like well. He hasn't signed when i did my original post that i forgot to change that and they could have been like more polite about it because you clearly moved him back up. I moved to. I moved him up. Like twenty four. You had realized that you had just gotten to To update by the way he's raking spring he was a non roster invite but he's got a good a good opportunity to get there but Anyway sorry continue their so. If castro was playing really good defense which it looks like. He's been i mean some beat writers have just been kinda raven on On just how great he's left in the field and now he's showing some power and it's not just. Hey he hit a you know a a few home runs. It's it's more about you. Know the average exit velocity on kind of those hard hit balls that unlike nece- he should probably move up my ranks a fair amount so the question becomes. How far can i get away with moving in before on just doing a little bit crazy with this. Yeah i mean. I was a little bit mean. I'm not a little bit. I was a lot lower on him than the market. I had him as my thirty fifth shortstop ozzie right. Hand item. Twenty third and My thirty six third baseman. So he's i can easily say he will move up into the top thirty probably around the will like under the willie adamas so like the All right above willie. I went double willies. Right there at twenty. Three twenty four. And i can see the argument that because he's got thirty in shortstop eligibility which is the end up with exactly in the tiebreaker. Exactly what. I what i was thinking so i may end up moving him kind of in that you know. Low thirty or low twenty type spot. Elvis andrus kinder falesa david fletcher for me at short saw in that it third base were. Then we're talking about like him moving into the top thirty you know right around heimer mccain alario kind of spot in other guys moved out of may actually end up being you know. Longoria needs move down because he's not healthy and probably gonna platoon which is surprising but it seems while but that's that's kind of where he's at right now so Yeah so. I'm liking him more. And more as bring goes on. Definitely guy ongoing. I've kind of changed my tune on a little bit. Continue to do so. And that's really castro and the defense piece that you mentioned was the primary focus. I listened to that first. Tigers game When spring starting on radio. And that's all they talked about with him like basically they barely calling his his at bats. It was his defense needs to happen and actually had a little flub in that game. And they were kinda bummed about that. So from that point forward. He has already tightened up because there is a lot of intense focus on. Willie castro's defense. I think he can move that lineup to project at nine th right now. I don't think they're married to that I i feel like he could easily move up into the into the six seven area and maybe even to the top of the. If things work out for him he goes to in bumps everybody else can scope it three Mcgee at four like that. There's nothing wrong with that. So there's some. There's some upward mobility possibly for castro. Each one of those accumulators kind of boring but glue guy that you can put it. Ci or am i. that's what i like about. The the shortstop third base eligibility is that you could put him at four different spots. So right we're going to need to be a little quicker on some of these routes. We're never going to get to know wets. Rhino horn has three homers I just want to think about he pulls me right back in. Because i'm a sucker for this guy but question is can you. Can you secure it. Kennedy's secure it fulltime role with kc right. Now we don't even have him on on the starting roster so we'll see how that goes but he's still on the forty man obviously with santana there that cuts off first base bit Where solar at d. h. Right now and benintendi mcglade taylor. Airfield is the outfield. But what. I think o'hearn does in an interesting way you'll understand. That makes sense when i say it. He's threatening nikki. Lopez playing time by way of mayor field goes to second so back in the outfield. Even though they don't love to do that and then i'll hearn. Plays i d. i don't think they want salerni. Outfield is playing this well and nikola has bad player like they have no. Yeah no. it's yeah this terrible dude. Come on exactly. They put mary field at second. Put someone like edward oliveras. Yeah but like. I'm trying to talk about the guy who's actually performing right now impression. I don't think it matters I mean i. Yeah i mean the problem is like they have other guys that could come in for niccolo biz honduras alburto. You know. they've got they. Signed draw. dyson believed to a major less. Not gonna start in any capacity whatsoever. Your insane yeah. I don't think is the quintessential zero. That's the problem. yeah i i'm not buying this. I think this one's easy. I mean if he makes the opening day roster than he could be an interesting pickup And you know one of the things. I haven't checked it. I'm gonna check while i'm talking to you is i. Don't know if you listen to sunday's podcast but we had not yet. We had mike kurland on. He's got an amazing google sheet. He's running with all the spring lineups. I was all over it looking at it yesterday. Just enjoying the excellence. So you know we can take like a quick look and go playing like every day. But he's not really but he is. He played three or four days as when he talking about how. Sorry i missed. I missed his monday. Start because they moved him down in lineup so yeah And they had to layer. Play right field so talent you. This threatening. Mickey lopez is playing time. He absolutely if he performs like this because he's also taking walks not just three spring homers. Look what he's doing there with the walks for walks. He doesn't have seven strikeouts to listen. I'm not here to say. Oh god okay. I fell for him after two thousand eighteen thought he had some some burgeoning matt olsen Aspects to him and then he was a disaster for the last two seasons with equal one ninety five batting averages and took his walks in those years hasn't eleven percent walk right in that time but he's one ninety one ninety five to eighty seven three fifty one. So that's a huge problem but the powers there right now and he's still just twenty seven. I'm just not ruling it out. It is going to be tough because they would rather not put solar in the outfield. I just think it's something to keep an eye on a lot more than you do. How about that. Yeah sure think that's fair because the guy who could possibly hit twenty five asthma interest to me but he really benefit himself more than these. Three homers is view. Is cutting down the strike outs. But he has seven in twenty one plate appearances. And that's that's that's an issue that i can't explain away for her all right. Let's talk about one. That i definitely think you're on because i believe you in on this guy before like myself and that's tie france who is out of his mind and spring right now not only does he have three homers. But he's hitting six fifteen which is like the best in in in baseball right now. has a twenty one twenty eight opium s which is kinda decent. Five of eight hits have gone for extra bases. I mean a you know a run like this in spring only matters to the degree that it's like a solidifying him. We already knew he was going to start though. It looks like he's starting d. Cow seager still good defender. Even at age thirty. Three but thai france might bat in the middle of that lineup. And that's not not an awful lineup. In that there's capable players up and down and he would be sandwiched between two of them senior and dylan more With with crawford. Haniger carl lewis at the top. They're getting some guys on for on bait for for. Rbi opportunities and i think france with a fulltime role is going to be really interesting this year so the fact that he's the cover off the ball actually hurts because it's just going to add to his fantasy interest that's going to Cut into the value. That i get when i was already on him. Yeah this is an interesting one. Because france is one of those guys were. I just don't really care that much. Okay yeah. I thought i thought you were in on him but Maybe it's jason that is But here's the thing like he doesn't profile anything like that interesting but he's done something that i think sometimes get overlooked in kind of Our industry is that he has hit everywhere. He's gone like he just hits like it's in like in triple a. in in the majors in twenty nineteen hit thirty four home runs between the two levels and then yet last year he you know between the two teams only hundred fifty five appearances because he wasn't playing much in san diego but foam runs through five batting average. Yeah it was up by three ninety five it but like i think he could easily be twenty plus homer guy with you. Know like a to seventy batting average in in the middle of that manners lineup. Like you said is a sneaky. Good least better than i think. People are giving it credit for so. Yeah i think salad counting you know nothing. That's going to knock your socks off. But just like put put the whole Put the whole thing together and it ends up being a good player because he plays every single day. You're looking at six hundred appearances. That pushes the runs rabies up. Good good average. I think the average could be sneaky too. I think that could end up being. He could really push like two eighty plus average in when he was performing his best. And that could really change the dynamic of of tie france the projection is. Don't give him credit for running with higher babs All throughout the minor leagues in even You know in the majors a little bit. So they're all giving him like You know to eighty three hundred babbitt five in his career. Three twenty eight bab guy And so i don't know about two seventy to eighty. But i think to fifty is pretty safe with the upside of to sixty to seventy which is totally fine especially that late draft so Yeah francis one of those guys did not move up in my second base ranks. And maybe i should have Probably and i guess i could do it before it. Post tomorrow Thirty fifth and second base of but he should probably be closer. D- he probably should be like in the starling. Castro received do bond area. Kinda guy he can be is startling. Castro that's exactly the kind of guy that he can be like. So i i like france and i. I actually think think the batting averages is where a real breakout could happen. Because i i do believe that. In in in his best season we could see something. We could see something big time. Like i said to eighty but projection sure. I'll put it at two sixty but I think there's the upside for more talk about pulled back in healthy gregory polanco freaking cover off. The ball did two homers steel. Fifteen forty five. Hope he has. I mean if he's healthy. I just can't i can't go at him dude. I'm sorry i came in like the last two rounds of the friends. Fancy benefits qualifier league after our qualifier league After talking crap about him earlier in the livestream dare you insult guys man as he also burned us a million times. Yeah didn't stop me. Took him in the twenty third round. Because i knew that the the hype was going to start moving them up so i took him in the twenty be. I don't even care love it. you know be. Here's the thing he's healthy right now and so he's one of those guys where like the moment he gets injured again. He's just going to drop off my team but unsure. I'll ride especially with guys like lorenzo. Cain doom with early injuries or other guys dealing with injuries. He's gonna play every day because it's pittsburgh and they still have anybody else and he's healthy. He's got power he's got speed And he's going extremely late. So i'll take the gamble here and there but he is like the moment he gets injured. He's off my team. And i just move onto the next guy. Sure and i'm fine with that and even as a twenty-third pick. I feel the same way. I'll take it as far as it can go but if there if we do get that magic healthy season the it's it's it's a lot of opportunity to be really good i know we're we're well removed from his last healthy season and even that was only one hundred and thirty games back in twenty eighteen but it was twenty three and twelve with the capable to fifty four batting average. And so you know. That's where i'm dreaming on there and the power as actually been like as men smashing the shit out of the ball Each of these last two years. It's just that he hasn't been making making enough contact like three. Thirty seven percent strikeout rate in the in the shortened season so it obscured the fact that he really was club in the ball. Because it was just doing it. So infrequently the kind of that. Bobby effect that. We talked about on unless on the last episode. It's like yeah cool that you're that you're doing this but you're so ineffective at making contact that it's difficult to give you too much. Credit portland had a career high Ninety three ninety three mph exit below one fourteen max exit Thirteen percent bear on. This is all last year for for fifty one percent hard. Hit all those work like career. Except for the max exit below. He had that in two thousand fifteen when he had won. Sixteen marker. so there's a lot to like with blanco but it's all about the health. Do not overpay. I think. I think i think i kind of hit the high mark there. I wouldn't go any higher than that. And i only did it. Because he had a big day that day and again i was worried about. I was worried about you. Know people pushing him up paid three thirty one like let's not paying the premium. Yeah i didn't. I didn't go wild with it but i think that if his draft price doesn't start with three. Don't take gregory polanco because you're not getting good enough discount for the severe injury risks. That still lingers over him. But we're back in because we're suckers. Victory robles in sam hilliard both have three stolen bases. They're kind of different ends here. Obviously everyone's drafting robocalls but he does have his detractors. That just don't believe he'll ever hit. And then sam hilliard. Meanwhile angling for a job with the rocky so to two different guys here but three stolen bases each quick thought on both ruthless and sam hilliard. A i mean is not only stealing bases. He's doing something much more important than that is that is in every game so that he has played so far this spring. He has led off huge. It's it's it's yeah it's gigantic gives me this. Was i mean outside of like the crabby statcast stuff like the biggest concern with him is been he hits the bottom lineup either. Eight or nine depending on if there's d. h. Or not so the fact that the team is making a concerted effort to put him at the top of the lineup. For me is huge in three walks as well by a couple of Too many strikeouts six but three walks is getting deep counts. He seeing pitches. Maybe that's a concerted effort as well because he knows if he's gonna lead off that victory was has to get on base at a good clip. So i mean the price is rising in pretty sure. I wrote about him last week in the. Adp market report It's currently one thirty seven online championship leagues over the last month. I'm here for that though. If he's going to be leading off in front of soto and bell and sh- warburg that's a lot of runs scored a lot of stolen bases. You know he's not a huge power source but he you know fifteen plus home runs I'm i'm going gonna be. He's going to be the biggest riser over the next month. I think i think there's a big chance in that list. And and i'll be there for a lot of it to be honest like there's a cutoff but i was already a believer in so again. This is another one. That's that's bum me out. Because i was already there and everyone kind of being sour was like yes yes yes let sour on him and i can. I can get them cheaper. But now he's going start moving back up because people see a little punch of power with quality speed top of that order which i really liked. By the way. I thought the schwammberger and bell moves really solidified that offense to go with the best player in the national league. Best hitter at least If not overall best player in soto trade turner of course is still there. You mentioned starting casual earlier. He's just a solid steady guy. And then if your car breaks out then they really do run a one to eight that can compete with most ball clubs and i really to their my dark horse to win the world's areas same. I rolled over my Bowl winnings bets on the super bowl into you a the nationals. Win the world series. I love it. I actually When i do my my visa hits vegas sports information network with gilan sander and we did win. Totals and world series. I'm talking about the the nats left. And right i i liked them. Because they're they're like third third best As far as the odds like mets and braves always have the higher odds to win the division. And everything i'm like. Get get the nats on a good deal right now because i that being a bit slept that i think max is going to be excellent Strasbourg looks like he's feeling very well. I think corbin's gonna bounce back nicely. The four five tough with less. Roz if lester can just be like a four fifty era guy not you're not gonna want that so much fantasy but if he can just be a quality start machine type of guy every once in a while get blown out but every once in a while dropped seven innings to runs fine just just kind of be steady And then that fits do need to figure out between joe. Ross austin both maybe somebody else but they a decent bullpen. I like that nats club. victories what about sam hilliard. Is he gonna win a job in colorado and if so are you drafting him you know. He's he's got power and speed but he strikes out a ton. What's the what's the deal is having twenty seven years old kind of a make or break. Do you think he can make. I think there is going to be an opportunity for him. The hard part is if you go and look at my little sheet about where he's hitting and stuff in. He is sitting He sitting in favor of our boyega. Hanson quinton yup so and an article from thomas harding on garrett. Hamson says that he's set for centerfield. So it kinda disagrees with the tune situation that we're talking about an roster resource here It looks like they want hamson to be the starting center fielder Least according to one of the beat writers. Thomas hardy in. They've been playing hanson in center field and leading him off quite a bit United states either been rahmael tapa or garrett hanson leading off so. Unfortunately i think hilliard is the odd man out right now In hamson has kind of inside track to that centerfield job that being said they can always move hamson to second base in. Yup they could definitely get brennan. Rogers is pencilled. There though and boeing no his health issues. There is some maneuverability. But it's it's less with with the emerges the c. j. crew. Because he's gonna take that job. Mcmahon looks pretty locked in third if rodgers hold second that keeps hamson in center and it really cuts into and then it becomes hilliard versus toppy at that point. So yeah i think. I took a shot on hilliard in tj fbi. But really i wanna say twenty fifth twenty sixth round type thing of where he's got power he's got speed In all it needs is an opportunity. Injuries could obviously work itself out You know or set the d. h. Could come to the league. That emphasize lying not happening this year. I know but i can't go episode without mentioning it. Yeah it's it's become it's become your bit and yet But yeah so obviously. If you know a miracle did happen that he but it does look doesn't tougher might not but it's not over right because also top. He has never really established himself as the niners hamson by he is our boy some shade him and i do love that. He's been leading off and is having has an angle on that centerfield job. Because you better believe. I'm gonna buy back in on that. I'm a complete sucker but You know hilliard out there running showing that. He's got that speed piece. If you could really strikeout rate. I think that would speak more to To to improvements for him he does have four strikeouts in his twenty twenty plate appearances which is not bad. Twenty percent rate is fine because a lot of his strikeout rates have started with three. And that's been. That's been the tough part about hilliard. So if he is kind of keeping it in the low to mid twenties. That would be nice. I think they would like to see that. And hey as a lefty. If you if you are in a platoon you can still get a lot of plate. Appearances highway shen. It may end up being where all of these guys rotate your time. This kind of each of them plays five days a week. And and and you know even if brennan rogers does kinda add the second base job he can still get a breather For hamson to come in to the to the dirt and then top hilliard. Blackman start so there is some time there and again. Make sure your hilliard pick starting with a three anything lower than that. You're really pushing it too high. He's like that gregory polanco. You shouldn't have to pay much to get him. And so if you wanna take that shot feel free to do so all right closing time. We're doing it again. we're finishing it up. let's get into it let's Nl central here now. I've thought about it since we talked about. I chastised you for ranking number like fourth or whatever you did you psych some nights. Same diff- still file no. I think you used an alias on my closer tears piece to comment. Hey see what did you see what greg gambled in eight outings or whatever the heck Listen it was really good. It was it was. It was awesome like that. That is absolutely true. And a guy like that who has obviously a track record as the literal best closer in baseball for quite awhile. They even on a small sample. That's worth noting seven and a third thirteen punches zero walks in his final eight outings. Craig kimbrel it's a matter of how much you believe in that. I think the the interesting part is that His bottom line is still so bad. Which tells you how rough because with that you know. Eight outings in an eighteen outing season. That's a that's a giant portion and still wound up with a five twenty eight. Era a one forty four wip Seven walks per nine. That's why i was like dude. What like what are you talking about his last two outings or something but no it was all september and it was really good all but one outing had a strikeout and all but two outings had two strikeouts in that run and even if you go before that if you just off the first four which i believe you mentioned it was twelve and two thirds twenty six strikeouts seven walks. Four hits two earned. And that's again. That's fourteen out of eighteen appearances but it was those four. That really did damage. And i guess it's like can he avoid couple of four start runs like that this year or or for outing runs over the course of the six months season now. I don't know if you've investigated this or not. But did you see any changes that were that were obvious like on mechanics or or pitch mix or anything that stood out in that run there. That said that okay. Cameras mates real changes. And he's kicking butt because the numbers are impressive. If you take off those first four outings for him so i give you some them some time to speak about him because he did rank them high and i'm coming around. I'm still not putting them top ten. I still think that's too high. But i'm peeling back from my are. Us psychopath comment. From and i mean here's the thing it's like you know and i. I made this comment on twitter. Like 'cause i dropped my starting my relief pitcher ranks and then immediately granted everywhere. I ranked guys In this is why doing really pitcher ranks because it is an absolute nightmare. And in kimbro. Like i don't take kimbrel made any huge adjustments. I just think he kind of struggled to get the feel of things early. I wonder if the kind of the ramp up ramp the ramp backup. Maybe affected him so you know he was very clean at the end of the season. Or if you really the last month of the season that being said he is not look good in spring like no joke my article posts and then like i first outing after my article posts that day. He gives up a huge bomb so like this could. He's legally. I think he's got the job. The reason i ranked him as high as i did is i think he has the job. Locked in roman with a roman wick is injured. Right now Like who they are. They going to go to brandon workman who is atrocious. Last year. they're going to go to. Mvp vote getter ryan para. I guess they could go to para. I think he's got the first crack that job. I think they would like to try to build up his value as much as possible. And then trade him in season to a contender And so i think they're going to give him quite a bit of rope as the guy Whether or not he can deliver on that is another subject. And i am definitely going to move him out of the top. Ten far out of the top ten is a different question because yes he kenley. Jansen should be above him. All right. I i can definitely get on board with that But inasmuch as archie bradley. Look their questions on whether or not he's the guy like is your guy but that that's it's we still have to acknowledge canaries. And the fact that he had seventy saves over the last three season so maybe he drops behind. Rafael montero maybe draw can even potentially dropped behind greg holland. But i have a hard time putting him below guys who were clearly better skills wise in current chac nick anderson. Just because i don't know kind of save totals are gonna get that that's fair and by the way with mine. I did tears. They're not it's hard because it's not like a straight ranking You have to kind of look at the pierre. I mean within the tears. They so he's in he's in tier four. Craig kimbrel is with greg holland kirby aids. Rafael montero. Richard rodriguez joakim soria. And then it's kimbrel. That's the locked in guy dot dot dot for now and the tier right above. That is the guy that you're the guys that you're talking about those firemen who can close. But we just don't know nick anderson. James karen check jordan hicks amir garrett Caller may because call me versus rogers and then smith because we'll smith versus chris martin their little different. I think the call me and smith but that was the best here to fit them in but those other four guys are like they could be pitching in the seventh inning most nights and still get you twelve safety. Just don't know where it's gonna go so yeah. I don't have kimber. Necessarily like twenty fifth even though it might look like that based on the tiers is just that i just don't have a lot of trust that he's going to get through the entire year but he could be one of those guys even if he has like a four day and one thirty five whip still gets a thirty five season and that does play is long as you are covering for it. Saves her saves. i know that's part of why some people hate saves shots nick pollock but they do play and i just don't know that they're gonna turn to anybody else unless he's a nightmare. I still think he has a pretty long leash despite despite some of the trouble that we've seen from kim recent years yup and then that's why i've kind of ranked him. He is go down but like he's he's got the role and i don't know that there's anybody else there that they want to give it to so You know saves her saves now yes he could be awful. That's harper a in full disclosure. I haven't been drafting it from rank nights but the thing about closer is like i'd much rather invest like a to hundreds you know pick in greg hall in then a one fifty pig in craig kimbrel a part again. I'm sorry i i. I would rather invest like to hundreds pick overall pick in greg holland. One hundred fiftieth big in cricket. Knbr also yes exactly exactly because i think holland knocking holland. A good chance to hold it all year because they might not be awful the royals they might be in that giants position a couple years ago where they can't really sout because they're they're too close to You know that second wildcard. Even if people don't really believe in them. I think enough things could go right for them plus again he can be traded into being caused or elsewhere. Greg holland has a ton of experience and pitches like he did in two thousand twenty then he absolutely will be sought after to cause for somebody comes. He was great. So yeah i definitely see that Careful with craig kimbrel folks. Just just be careful. Let's talk about another guy that we just spoke about in that firemen role amir garrett in cincinnati. That's that job is open. He doesn't think it is. I ask him and he tells you he's got that job and he and lucas simpson. Had some fun bantering about stuff like that. I love to see. Only problem is sims is now dealing with a bulky elbow in which him in spring so izmir garrett oh wait i missed that. When did that yesterday. So he is the worst which is not good so This isn't adding spinach. Sorry is kind of becoming a nightmare. Yup they. They traded away like or non tendered a lot of the relievers who were ahead of the their back. Actually i'll tell you what i'm gonna i'm gonna counter atmos as not a nightmare. Scenario does suck that those two got hurt because those two are the know the sexy picks that can really be you know that next great closer type with garrett lucas sims. Put if he's healthy. Why aren't they just turned to doolittle. He goes back to be sean doolittle. Because he's never healthy. Like i mean letty. Healthy right now though That's a good question does a genuine question. I actually don't. I don't know the answer So i will. i'll look it up but Yeah i mean. I think doolittle becomes the guide target right now if you're targeting Someone in insufficient bring oh. He's been absolutely pummeled. Seven runs in two innings with four homers in four walks. I don't wanna freak out over two innings hard to just like say that that's a spring tuneup when it's when it's at but he's also been working on a breaking ball okay okay. Let's let's hope that. That's i'm not for me with sean doolittle. It's not necessarily about the results in spring. It's he's on a mountain. He's pitching. I know but those are so bad. Dude you know. And he's you know he's been thrown ninety two ninety three ninety four So yeah i mean it's it hasn't been effective necessarily but he's got the velocity we kind of expect for him. He's he's pitching he's one of these one of the three guys on in this poll that we've been targeting That is pitching you know. The question becomes do they make an tom A reliever urge a he's been battling for fifth star. Will i don't think he's gonna get it but they do. They say hey. Maybe you're the closer now that is interesting. Because he's a favorite of the fantasy community in right now. He's really moving up. People are very excited about antone. He could go so many different ways he could find his way into the rotation he could be a fireman and have and be good enough to where he's like a devon williams where you want to take him because he's getting two innings every time and just getting so much Goodness with the and strikeouts or now with the door open he could close Where where are you drafting right now because like i said the market is hot on him. is getting too hot free to jump in or are you still looking at him. I haven't gotten him anywhere so far. The market is in like awful on him. He you know he's pick three twenty. I know i think there's wants some drafts close titan that that date window ninety nine. Tj fbi leading to jeff erickson. Who is a fan and a very good player and smart analysts so it went about that in mind to eighty six eighty nine ninety one to two thousand nine hundred. I'm not gonna take him very high above three hundred just because then you're taking him over guys who. I'm pretty sure have a closing job. Yeah we don't know what his role is going to be. He could be a guy who ends up being closer. Could end up being this year's tyler. Molly where we thought. He was starting as the long man and ended up in the rotation. Because weight miley as wade miley. So i think there is definitely think he's worth the gamble but like hunter harvey's going to eighty something and like i'm pretty sure hunter. Rv is going to be close in at least a fair amount of games if not all games in baltimore so i'm not gonna take him over a guy like that but i think he's definitely a guy that is a worthy gamble just inside the top. Three hundred yeah. I'm okay with that as long as it doesn't start to get to fifty or something like that. That's a that's when i don't wanna see But yeah with the cincinnati job. That i still drafting and garrett but that is that is nerve wracking that That he's dealing with forearm tightness. I hadn't seen that. And then i think fifty round draft in hold right now and this is the only the only places around taking sean doolittle Again i i really don't want overreact. To that. those numbers but they're so aggressively bad. Even it's the four homers for walks that for me that i would like. How much of that is that. Is the breaking ball though. Like you know i mean i wouldn't over i mean here's the thing like his price is nothing right now that the i know i know i know so. You're taking. He's going at three fifty five over the last month and online championship leaks. Which means he's not even being drafted in every online championship. Exactly because as one of these guys where you can take him late in the draft. Put him on your roster. He's on the reserve list. Get to save in that. I you know three three games before fabricated if he does then you hold onto and you see what happens in doesn't dropped me go pick up the next guy. The interesting thing though is if he does stay healthy into little does get an opportunity like you said about that That first weekend there if garrett is going gonna be out for the first week of the season only or something and and maybe you really are only getting little just for those potential couple saves like we had been talking about with zach britton With aroldis chapman being suspended by the way britain had green is the guy to do that. do that little trick with if that's something you're interested in if you're trying to turn over every rock for every little save you could get. I think chad green is somebody to maybe use your last pick on. Just try to get to save toronto series while chapman suspended and then cut him on that sunday night for somebody else all right next up this is. This is the biggie You know we we. We both have met to now. But josh hader in milwaukee devon williams creeping but debra williams is not healthy right. Now there's been a lot of discussion about both these guys one. One part of the discussion is can we trust haters. should he even be number two Are they gonna fireman him again and turned to williams but then to can they turn to williams because of of his bulky shoulder right now. So where do you come out on the milwaukee situation. Where would you drop these two guys. I actually don't have theater to. I've hater three. Oh yeah that's right. You have chapman had pardon me. I forgot i feel more comfortable Hater could easily be the number one reliever in venice. So i mean we. We've seen the upside is huge especially because he can go multiple innings and you could end up after outing of his having. You know five strikeouts safe so there. There's a ton of upside in hater. Gave up some home. Runs has given to more homers in spring in. That's the issue that will worried about gave up another homer yesterday. Like i'm a little bit concerned. I think he. I think he's definitely a guy like And ranked third so. I don not like extremely concerned. The homers you know have been issue over the last season the more concerning thing for me than the homers Were the walks taking up the way they do. In in the short sample twenty twenty. I mean he had almost thirteen percent. Walk right in. So then you add in those homers in. You're like okay. This homers are no longer solo. Shots there to run shots or three run shots and that becomes a bit more concerning. I just the homers. He gave a homers in one thousand nine as well but he wasn't walking the yard painter wasn't so that's why they weren't as problematic but then the homer rate walker. Excuse me doubled. And that was the alarming thing about twenty. And so i'm i think i'm more comfortable with chapman You know it's better team so more opportunities. there isn't a especially now. Is that britain down there There isn't a devin williams behind him. And so i'm. I'm probably steering away from this whole milwaukee situation. I'm really really really concerned about devin. Williams not being able to pitch until march seventeen at the earliest. And i know like he's relievers. It's not gonna take him very much ramp up but sure the fact that he's an all amount right now And there isn't necessarily a concrete timetable for him to be on one Concerns me greatly. He again has huge upside like if if he's healthy pitching the way he was last year. And then hater get does get traded or is ineffective like he could be a top five closer easily but the price is so expensive. I'm just not panic. That's the tough part. It's like you're supposed to be looking for the next williams really paying the premium for him. And i understand that it's you know it's fun to dream on what his eighty innings season could look like with the strike outs and the ratios chip in saves chip in wins. You know it's hater before he was closing I totally get that but that's so expensive. It's so especially with the shoulder. If he was fully healthy. I could back in a little bit more. And i would just say it's one of those things. It's a luxury that you have to plan for but you can definitely do it but as is hide. I don't know man that's the tough part for me is like you know. He's he's like kind of regularly goes in in the top. What one fifty. One seventy ver- guy that you know is just a middle reliever right now See with injury concern again. That's that's the real key here with devon williams so be careful i understand your trepidation with this with this entire situation right now. I have hainer at two behind hundreds you. Three behind hunterston chapman. I think we're justified in that. I don't think it's out of bounds. If you still have them. I i think just just taking Just really taking everything in having a caused a dip here because they will say even with the home runs and walks being a problem. Last year he still led the and saves you know. That's how good hater is. He creates his own margin for error by just being so devastating with his fastball. Yes all right next up. Oh boy rodriguez who he We argue over. But you had you had to. Pti at a little bit young like the only downside here. Well not only. I guess he could. He could flop but he's been a good reliever for three years now with pittsburgh. He's finally got an opportunity to some saves at the end of last year and now he has the job from day one but he's getting traded and you know it's just that whole we don't know if he's getting traded into a cause or setup role and we can't know that like there's there's no way to know that going in. I'm still happy to take him though because the price isn't too high. That risk is all already factored in as far as You know wh when you when you pay for ridge around riga. So i'm not even that that worried about it to the to the degree that That i feel like oh no. I can't take him so. I'm still taking rich rod Pretty comfortably as like my my second. Closer in some cases he's been my third closer because he just falls because he's on pittsburgh people are like. I don't want him as okay. That's fine and he went to pick one. Ninety five. And my tgif which i thought was perfectly fair if you had made it back to me at the end of that was the end of the thirteenth comeback a whole nother fifteen picks to get to me but i would take him there But i already had. I don't hendrix in hicks seinfeld. I felt good But yeah richard. I think is fairly priced for what he is. I think worst. You're getting a half season of saves with pittsburgh which should be double digits solidly. And then the second half of the season could be a little bit of a toss up but with your second or third goes. You don't plan that far ahead anyway. Reich shouldn't be you should be expecting like walking soya's closing all year for me. I'm getting thirty days like whoa. Whoa whoa tap the breaks there. There's only so many guys that you can really plan for six months from it anyway. Yeah i mean at this point. It's like he's going one eighty seven right now on. My champions shift drafts over the last month. He's the guy in pittsburgh. There's no one threatening him for that role as long as not at all though in links that he's going to get traded so worst case scenario eubank thirteen fourteen saves from him in the first half and then he becomes a setup man in you. Just drop him right. Naski scenario gets traded to a contender. That is gonna continue using him. Sleep closer and now you've got a guy that may thirty plus saves You know on a better team. So exactly i mean. I think there is an argument. Ask him above kimbrel. I don't but i think there's an argument in the deathly should be closer than my initial rankings. Yeah and i. And i did actually have him above him. They were in that same tier Except when the tear was there the closer for now with kimber was because of how suspect he can be with with rodriguez. It was just because he's gonna get traded. So i'm with you there. We like rich rod. I'm not touching like cow creek or anything behind him. It's route or bus as far as pittsburgh goes and you can deal with who might take over for him once. He's traded all right. Saint louis another senate scenario. That's that's rife with opportunity because whoever gets the job is a really good reliever but we just don't know exactly who it is. It seems like they want hicks back in that role. Sooner than later though they just don't ever seem to want to commit to giovanni ganga's no matter how well he pitches and with hicks. It's kinda like you can kinda say that they're just saying injury has has not cost your job because that's all it was like. He was the closer you get. Fourteen saves in two thousand nineteen before he went down with tj. And now they're saying. Hey you're back you're going to be worked back into your role which i think is is fair It's just is coming back from tj. He skipped twenty twenty because he is also a diabetic and so he didn't want to take the risk totally get that I drafted him in. Tgi as i mentioned. I i think he's going to have the job so even if he doesn't start with the first week or so the goal is to get him in that gig and i think they're going to do that. What do you think of the saint. Louis situation with hicks ganga's specifically while some dark horses. But i think it's between those two right now. Yeah i think it's between those two as well. But i also think other guys can factor anime right now. Roster resource has it as a four horse of the apocalypse. And that's how i feel mean hicks obviously has huge upside And supposedly has looked good in spring. I don't know that he is. I think he's had some big gains rate. Yeah on the side so he hit like one or two apparently In early march and everything. So you know he's got he's got the gas back and everything. It's philosophy is never an issue. Though right i mean yeah yes you with. Tj returnees is command control. I that was his issue before that too. So that's that kind of compounds. And i think people forgot like before he opted out last year. He had a setback in his recovery. From tommy john. I i think that hicks has the inside track But i also don't think he's guaranteed to get the role or not share the rules. So i don't know that i'm investing in this bullpen especially with hicks if i'm gonna invest in the bullpen. I might invest in guyana. Goes or alex. Rodriguez or injured miller Just because they're going much cheaper than him. The price jump on hicks is gonna. It is becoming unreal. He has he's already at picked. Two hundred right now championship leagues. He's got paid a lot earliest one. Thirty six in one eighty yeah. I'm a bit concerned that that price is going to continue to go up right now. It's not unreasonable necessary to see You know i think you're right. Though once he gets into a games that are counting on the stats and everything. So people can look what he's doing or watching watch. Tv perhaps that can add to the interest in him. Which which would push that price up. So i was happy to kind of get in here at one eighty. I don't think i would pay much higher. So does go further than that. We might only share of pigs and liam hendriks. So i felt like. I've got the best guy i can take a bit of a gamble here and then i also got joakim. Soya another little bit gambling talking about him next and one other bullpen piece from somewhere late in the draft. And i feel like i'll be fine with what got there and then everything else. I can kinda work through the season. So i understand with with one eighty. That's hot. i paid a premium absolutely did but the upside is tremendous. And i do feel good about where he's at right now but i would not pay much higher at all on jordan hicks. I'd be very careful about impious. Creep in one fifty plus are one fifty or lower. I should say i. I don't know if you want without without a declaration it okay march twentieth. Join the guy. Lock it in shirt that changes things. Sure but as. i doubt. They're going to do that. So as it stands right now. I think one eighty s my peak. Yeah even the problem within when eighties. That means he's going ahead of guys that are locked in so he's going ahead of greg holland. He's going ahead of richard rodriguez in. I think i'd rather have the guarantee feet get to guarantee that might guy is locked in Especially in situations like pittsburgh especially situations like kansas city. Where not only the guys locked in. Thinners i mean i guess josh style amount can close. But there's no are. There is no competition for those guys. Whereas i like hicks fix his healthy. You know he could be a monster but they're still competition there like they go. Hey let's not put a guy in the ninth or let's put our best reliever in jordan hicks in more high leverage situation. So i'm i'm probably not going to end up with jordan hicks emand at being mistake because i mean he is amazing when he's healthy and pitching but i just i i when i'm getting to this point i'm usually just drafting for saves my my ratios in strikeouts are already pretty set. I just want a guy who's gonna close. And i'm not sure that hicksville that's fair. That's all fairly pay premium hoping to strike it big. I don't think i would have done it without having my number one guy in liam hendriks on the squad there so i will say that that definitely played a role with my comfort in taking the hicks shot. There are moved to the nfl west. Joakim soria is the guy in arizona right now. I know some folks are really in on stephon. Crichton as as you know dirt. Cheap option there by. I don't really see that even even if you don't love story i just nothing about crichton really stands out to me As to why. I would be all that interested in in the twenty nine year. Old like he doesn't he doesn't have good swing and miss at all So the strike outs aren't very impressive. The walk rate is fine. It gives ball in the yard but I don't know i. I think it's saria until they trade him and that's kind of where i'm at with with arizona. How do you see the county that job going. Yeah i mean. I think in the reports were that story to take less money to go to arizona in with the idea that he was going to be the guy there yet or at least be given that yet to give it a shot soon start and so i think that that is the case. Start with the job by the way not just a made. It sound like to that he wants to get back in the rotate. So i think story is the guy. I drafted story a fair amount already because i do think he's looked in at least for the early. You know early season you know. He's probably gonna get traded. He's a guy that could get traded and not be closer. But whatever. I'll get my twelve thirteen saves from him and then all go find it somewhere else. 'cause he so cheap i mean. He went in the fringe. Its benefits minimum qualifier. Crichton went ahead of oria while yet i mean he went to picks ahead of my spot And then i was like well okay. You can take crichton. But i'm not gonna let you have seora. Just a lockup arizona's saves So i'll take my closer two or three. I can't remember which one he was And be pretty happy with it Know definitely has some red flags Went up Didn't allow for many homers last year which is always good but he's not pitching in oakland and we're not that arizona's a bad paced pitch but especially with the door the teens he's going to be going up against maybe competition so i still think he is it. I mean he's the you know proven guy right and and they wanna keep other people's Arbitration numbers down. So i think walking story is a pretty safe bet. Yep i see it exactly how you do. Very cheap can easily be your third closer to depending on how you attack saves And and that that works for me get my double digits and move out all right next one is colorado and i love the daniel bard story is so awesome that after seven years. And just you know amass with how things went. He had the apps like it. Just it really melted down. After a bright start for barred seven years out of the game he comes back and is the best we've ever seen him in the majors. Throwing ninety seven again strike outweigh back on point. Walk rate very manageable nine percent. That's fine. I mean we're talking about a guy who has a career eleven percent that spiked as high as fifteen percent or sixteen percent for two thousand twelve which was fifty nine innings and that year. He walked more than he struck out. Sixteen percent walk rate fourteen percent strikeout rate. So you know he hit. The bottom of the barrel comes back. Kicks butt grabs four win six games. He's the guy but it's colorado. So i don't really wanna mess with it. It's one of those things where i love the story. I love the guy but it's colorado dude. I just don't want to be there when you think you can root for a guy and not wanna draft him. So i'm at i root for him as a person and as a player and i hope he does really really well. He just won't do it on my team because i'm just not investing in colorado saves Definitely not i mean if they had like if they had a really established guy with a long track record i might go for it or if they were a if i thought they were going to be good. Yeah doesn't think too. Because he's he's he's in this arizona pittsburgh level of of wins and m. Why wouldn't they trade him. He's thirty six other deathly trade him if effective he may be the first person traded this. Yeah so and so then. There's michael gibbons scott over coming back from from three ask outlet but again i know saves are saved. I know you know only folks. You do have to pay attention. Yeah because he can't really. You can't really leave any iraq unturned. But yeah for me i i play almost exclusively mixers at this point. Daniel bard rooting for you. Big time you just can't be on squad. Sorry let's move on this one a quick one-two kenley jansen. It's his job. He's going to have an extremely long leash. I really believe that especially in the regular season. I know how the postseason played out. I talked about that in my right up there. About how they returning to reassess and and Who else got when. I can't remember a Blake china china and in arrears got saved and in critical game. Five in game six wins. That does nothing for me. As far as moving away from janssen in the regular season he will have. I mean it would take a real meltdown. Like i think you know. Seven of eight outings in a row would have to be really bad. It's that kind of problem that would have to hit and yet trying is the short term filling. But it's still think they're grooming bruce star grandma to take the reins when they do move on from janssen. I just don't see them moving on from him this year. So i think he's locked in guy and he's perfectly capable closer one for me. I think he's perfectly capable closer one. I'm not as confident that he does have a extremely long league. I think he has a medium sized to maybe long size leash but there's nothing to worry about though his stats were excellent in two thousand and so i'm not not saying like like he's still a top ten closer for me for sure and like i said i'm going to move him above kimbrel but he doesn't belong in the tier above him. He's the top of that thirty or for me that's fine. I had him at the bottom of the second top of the third kind of the same death. But i feel you. My concerns with kenley have won the struggles. Obviously right That we've seen especially in the playoffs but to it's the last year of his contract in so they no longer have to worry about. We've got money. Attached as the money is now sunk cost. So they did. Signed blinked trying into a two year deal immediately the bridge to grow so they do have a ton of options on that team. That could close if he falters now. I do think it would take quite a bit but maybe not quite as much as you do. And so i'm not i'm definitely not going to put him above presley. Rick laziest or d. As rosenthal or even put him in the tears. Those guys But i feel like if you miss out on those guys. He's deathly the top of that third tier. Yeah yeah so. We're we're pretty close automated just having a little bit more confidence i think. Also because like and didn't he bounced back a bit but he wasn't that good in twenty strikeout rate pedestrian twenty one percent got the walk right back down it spiked to fourteen percent. Twenty nineteen you. Cut that in half back down to seven Started keeping the ball in the art again. you just had a disastrous nineteen. He did rebound from that but he did. Rebound back to you know all bold blake. Try and the guy that we saw in two thousand eighteen. Who's devastatingly excellent. So i guess. That's why i don't shit you know. I think that jansen would really have to falter but china would be the guy i put my next up. I should have been like. I did do a little note. I said china's would be the short-term fillon. I grant that if anything happens like i said you know it's just gonna be a two week deal for Johnson on the i l. They would go to china. I wanted to highlight that. Gradual is the next guy though so then if you are i mean you shouldn't be going too far and keep relief as far as trying to draft closers but i feel like he could close as early as next year. So if you are something where you're planning for just even next year grad. All i think is going to be there guy Because of how much they like him. Who said it but somebody said it on a podcast recently. The might have been fred zinke. Jeff erickson that Kenley jansen just gone from an elite guy to a pretty good guy and fine. I'm fine and that exactly. that's completely fine. I'm happy to take him. It's kind of boring in an really does the us and is when you take him or feels like they were sniped. And that's okay. That's okay just take him. He's still the best teams closer. And i'm all good with that Now this situation is super murky. There is a guy who could have the san francisco job and probably should be given the reins but that's just not kapor style. So i don't think jake mcgee is like the locked in guy. He's he's the he's the only guy i'm drafting in that bullpen. He had a nice rebound last year. And if it weren't for daniel bard maybe he would have been comeback player of the year because after his colorado finished there in eighteen and nineteen. He was kinda left for dead as like okay. He's no longer a good reliever. He bounced all the way back to the point where he had his best strikeout walk rates now that was in twenty innings versus know full seasons elsewhere back in tampa when he was a a stud but he has closing experience even as a lefty There are lefties in that bullpens so they would need to save him. But that's just not campus motor annoying a single guy and really stick with them so as much as i like mcgee and he is the only one i would draft. He's still very very very very low for me. I think you nailed it. It's it's not if it went to the guy based on skills would be mcgee right all day. I don't think there'd be much question about that in there has been talk about him being kind of the lead guy that committee. But it's gonna be a committee aside from cavilers tendencies your organization as i mean. Just look at their offense. They're they're platooning. Every butch mix and match in the bullpen to. They're going to try to off. This isn't a team that is flush with talent and so they're trying to optimize every possible scenario. And so is much as i liked. Jake mcgeown tgif be i. He was there on the twenty six round for my wife and she scooped him up. And i was like. Oh that's a really really smart pickup Young because he'll probably get twelve or thirteen saves and if that's your rpg three or before four and a twelve teamer data. That's a pretty nice by. I think he's going to be very good. They're gonna let fans back in stadiums that gates going to be open in that jetstream will be cut off a little bit So it's gonna play better for pitchers than it did last year. I i like I liked mcgee. Don't expect you're getting twenty. Plus as because. I don't think anybody on this team. Getting twenty -plicitly. Yup exactly i'll go and then the last one here is very cloudy even though it's one of the best teams in the league the padres do not have a set guy. I don't think pomeranz is who i think. The fantasy community really wants melia gone has his believers but i just thinking laws too many homers to really get the job and all steady eddie. Boring mark melanson. They're saying hey. I've got closing experience for days. You can keep you keep Gone and pomeranz and firemen roles. And i could be here just making sure. I don't walk anybody. And i don't give up homers not gonna strike anybody out so make sure that defense is on point but i do like to get a bunch of sei's i think it could absolutely be milan-san i want it to be pomeranians but milan is just lurking there for me. How do you see the How do you see the san diego situation playing out. I think it's milan-san. I think palmer ends. We'll get some sneaky saves here and there but it's more of a you know a two thirds to milan-san one third pomeranz Because they don't have a ton of lefties in this bullpen all his tim And so i think they're going to lean on milan-san i think that's the reason they signed him. I don't think he signed their thinking he was not going to get opportunities is much as the underlying statistics on the lanson. Hasn't been great does is produces very komai ask I think yeah. I i if i'm going to invest in a guy. I don't mind actually double dipping getting lanson pomeranz. But if i'm only going to get one is going to be morrison. Yeah i like. I said it's gotta drive from my head not my heart because i love what pomeranz has become as a reliever but that makes them so valuable to them across the middle innings that. I think that that's just what they want to do with him and this is. This is the standard of of the game today of like. Yeah we're not putting our best reliever in the closer's role because we realized that that's not always the most efficient because they're not putting a loser in there like mark was actually pretty boston. Twenty twenty at a two. Seventy eighty are a one twenty eight whipple high. 'cause he did allow few hits but you know is area has been over four once in the last nine seasons are ben over three sixty one. Let's say and then he said doesn't walk is doesn't doesn't give up homers and love that and that's why i think it's him over pa- gone because begun is a homerun machine one point six per nine and two hundred and four major league innings. That's that can't have that the night. That's the quickest way to just blow. The game is to give up a homer. And so i think it is milan-san verses pomeranz here and i think milan-san is gonna win it so be careful with those pomeranz years because they're expensive and while he can be you know a devon williams type again. The idea with those players is you're supposed to find the next one dirt cheap. Yeah alright we did it. We covered closers when a little long on this. One that's That's nick pollock's line now. We we don't worry about going long. They do and that's or alex does and that's why nick thompson with that But we were happy to do that. We haven't had we haven't had over an hour and a half a minute so it's a good one year to finish on just a great talking with you this week. Wonderful weekend and i will talk to next week.

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George Springer. Blue Jays. (Ep. 101)

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George Springer. Blue Jays. (Ep. 101)

"Ladies and gentlemen we got him radio. Hello and welcome to episode one hundred and one of sexually one thirty eight. An emergency podcast. The blue jays george springer six years one hundred and fifty million dollars as always joined by bryan and jacob. They did it. I'm in shock right now. All my word. I think we all are how this nights started. How this night started with the report from. I can't remember his name. But all due respect to him brandon coon sitting in a barber shop getting a haircut reporting the news. It's slowly slowly built up. Remember we all text each other right away saying You guys see list and unread away. All of us we. Let's not look too much into it at slowly got better. All the big boys came into play and just before we started this. It is confirmed by jeff passan and of course we have the deal. They did it. They beat the mets. The funny thing. I wanted to also mention right before we were about to report. Like we got a few tweets i believe it was from kendra. Tweeted trying to scroll through twitter and it's absolutely blown up but they said deal is said something about it's finalized and then right before we're about to come on. It was like actually hold on. It's not finalized. Jays only over seventy percent chance of signing him. Sort of like okay. So is this going to be a five minute thing or is this going to be till two. Am type of a marathon quickly mark before you go. We're getting we're getting reports. Now of the mets the mets offered them and they offered them around a one twenty to one hundred twenty five million dollars. So there you go. I think that's gonna change the dynamic of this a little bit. I think we're going to be looking a bit different at this deal. Now that we know that the mets closest offer was Hundred and twenty million dollars but yet. And now we have been nichols and smith saying that george springer is just landed in florida expected to take the physical We're going to finalize things. Hopefully so yeah. I wanna learn before we get to our thoughts about this deal what we think about the number and like i just said the number on the other side of things for the mets. How did you guys. I learn about this deal. What was the moment. 'cause as you mentioned we were going through this. All night glued to twitter for me. I couldn't find my phone. I placed it on the other side of the desk. Where i'd never put it and i could not find it for the first thirty seconds so i couldn't post knows freaking out What about you guys are. Honestly it's time is. I think it was probably about like ten fifty was announced so i was just in my i was in my host just locking it up and everything just ready to go to bed and then i think i. I gotta discord notification saying you know George springer had science. I was like oh. I just miss somethings. I didn't have my phone. And then i literally. I have notifications on for everybody that i follow on twitter so my feed was just absolutely blowing up and i was like this is actually real. It's it's not just a room or not. Just somebody that i've haven't heard about yet reporting. It's it's legit and i just admittedly. I almost passed out to fall asleep. She from excitement. I have the text eight forty two pm. I texted both you. This may be happening. You know what. I'm talking about cannot confirm or deny and mark your first words. Were i saw the tweet. But it's kinda sketchy and slowly and slowly. It became more credible. As more people started to higher up. I guess all due respect to everybody and we finally got news this and we said right before we started recording. We got full details. And i've ever since eight forty two glued to twitter. So i'm sure you guys are all in the same boat. It's been a mad dash to the finish line both on twitter instagram. I don't know if you guys have gotten probably twenty or thirty. Dm's some people saying they have information some of them being credible. Some have not some people just asking questions. It's been a crazy mad dash again. We want to give credit to brendan coon. Who has asked underscored b. k. u. h. underscore on twitter. Who's the first one to report this and then Joey vendetta of sports net kind of quasi confirmed it at one point early on and then we didn't hear anything for a while and then all the big names were starting to come out saying the blue jays or close to it. But let's get down to the actual signing so five years six or excuse me six years hundred and fifty million dollars. Is that too much for a guy. Like george springer who is going into his age thirty two season. You know what i. It's hard to tell because when you when you look at it. Mathematically twenty five million dollars a season. It's not awful. I mean i think it's fair to say that that's probably what the blue jays we're going to have to pay. I mean obviously he wanted I think it was thirty million a season or something around that you know but the blue jays ended up giving him. The money wanted over an extra year but as of right now and for the next couple seasons. I think it's it's fair. I mean george springer. We we've talked about this for the past two months now. He's a good player. So i think it's definitely fair however for six years i mean obviously you can kind of. Maybe we're work things out a little bit weirder where you know you pay them less money towards the end of his contract and the majority of it early on but for the most part if you if you were to kind of have this continue for the or you're going to have it continue for the entire the entirety of these six years. So you know you kind of expect good performance out of somebody for that entire time and like we said he'll be thirty eight when the contract is up so will he be worth twenty five million in six years or even four or five. I certainly hope so. I think he's definitely. He's not a bad player. Like we've said so. It's just it long-term deals do of come with this risk. But i think as of right now the blue jays they have their they have a guy that will definitely take them to another level at least for the next couple of years with this current core. Yeah you know what I believe he's thirty. One is that the age thirty one. I believe he's doing right now but it'll be thirty two. He's entry age thirty two season before. I got my thoughts. Here's the potential lineup on paper. Bijou springer bichette. Vladimir grow junior tasker hernandez lord escorial randall. Grid chick rowdy. Till as and danny janssen. That is a stacked lineup. And you wanna talk about the deal now. This is something that you kind of experience in all of professional sports i guess players who are signing these long-term deals when they're getting to their early thirties late twenties early thirties. And the one thing that you have to take a look at this as it six years. He's thirty one now if you were to get four seasons of him being it's an absolute win and i think there's a legitimate possibility that that he has done so and i was looking at in those four hours where i couldn't get off twitter. There was numbers and surge huge amounts of numbers coming. And i can't even talk so excited there. Lots of numbers coming in. And i saw one in particular chart where it showed how each season since his rookie year. He has pretty much cut his strikeouts in half his cutout. He's cutting his strikeouts in half base off and strikeouts for the entire league. Continue to grow each year so he's gotten better at the plate when it comes to striking out and putting the ball in play as he's gotten older and things like this he's going to be elite. He's a positive word player. He is an all star. We know the opium about the numbers of how he is and the one thing too is he. The jays gave him exactly what he wanted. One hundred fifty. They didn't go under. They didn't go over and we knew. I guess probably a few weeks ago a month ago that the first offer was around one hundred and twenty million one hundred and twenty five million while under his asking price and it seems that the mets didn't really changed their stance and a lot of the word. Is that the. Mets began to back off as they got francis golan door but as they got francis school indoor so the thing with george springer is he's got six years he's gonna play the six years here he's gonna get his one hundred and fifty million dollars and i'm happy they gave it to him honestly Just this is something. They needed the last last winter. They proved to the world that they were legit with hundred rio and this winter they. They took another step forward and they could easily be better than i guess. Other teams in the division like the tampa bay rays. Maybe they can compete with the new york yankees. Who knows. we'll see what happens. There's still lots of free agency to they're gonna add more players. We know that but a lot of these projections that we spoke about like. I believe we were playing the that thing. Where or that segment. A few weeks ago where i did the certain thing with you guys. I'm sure a lot of it is going to change with this signing in particular in terms of where they're gonna sit what the lineup looks on paper and they're going to be doing a lot more but it's just It's it's looking like the jays are still looking as ken. Rosenthal has just tweeted that the blue jays are still trying for free agent. Michael brantley and mark. You're the one that introduced us on the weekend of the potential possibility of bringing these two guys in this is crazy. They're not done. And that's the best part about this. They're not done. And they made one of the biggest signings franchise history tonight in george springer. The deal is worth it. You're gonna get more good years out of him than not and that's why it's completely worth at base off his numbers you guys go ahead right. It's more than just one of the largest deals and franchisers treaties the largest deal in franchise. History i think the second closest deal is vernon wells. Who signed. if i'm not mistaken the seventy one hundred and twenty million dollar extension back in two thousand six two thousand seven so this blows out of the water if you look at big free agent deals. Were talking russell. Martin who we mentioned last week higher engineer you. Aj guys like that Who still blowing those deals out of the water by almost doubling them so this is an insane amount of money and let me go on the record. It is too much money. But but i will. I will clarify that statement by saying it's worth it. He isn't like i mentioned last week. You have to overpay to get guys like this in. The blue jays are doing exactly that this is what the market demands to get players like this and i think it's entirely appropriate for them to pay this kind of money. You may look at the comparison. Mets offering one hundred and twenty five million dollars but they obviously didn't want springer as much as the blue jays. Did and you look at the comparison like we mentioned last week. You have to overpay for guys to come to toronto. You're going to have to overpay this season because you don't know where the blue jays are playing so when you combine all those factors you combine the fact that just this deal is awesome. It's exciting. It's incredible to see this happen. it's it. It's perfect i. I can't complain right now. Maybe years down the road. I'll be Arguing and complaining about it. But that's offered tonight tonight. We celebrate jacob before you before you add onto something. I just have a question for everybody out there. We've received comments all winter. The blue jays are interested in everybody. They don't do anything blah blah blah. Where are you now. Where are you serves right. Where are you. Where are the shapiro haters. Where the atkins haters. Where the where. The runner runner-up jokes. Where are they wait. That's all that's enough. That's all we have to say. We can sign off. Now we've said enough No but it serious. Like the blue jays. Were you know we had our doubts. I'm not gonna lie like you know you could go back and listen. I said that's all you can go back. And listen to our last podcast and here are saying you know literally. The title of the episode is is time running out for the blue jays to make a move for the blue jays. Decide george springer Because that's what it seemed like the blue jays returning towards. I don't think any of us really at any point said this would be a failure of an off season. Because i think we saw the acquisitions we saw the interest and we said you know they're not gonna come up empty handed even if they don't get a star like george springer they're not gonna come up the ended and i mean we're seeing a here so i mean for those people who are i know we're not gonna hear anything more from this offseason next offseason. They'll just come roaring back saying the exact same thing but remember this moment. The blue jays did what they were gonna. They said they were going to do. And that's all we have to say about that. I was just going to say what i you know of the over. Analyzer side of me. I'm one of the first things i'm doing right now. Is looking at their depth chart. And i think it's fair to say that we all not oscar hernandez and laura's junior are gonna take take over in center in right field and left field. But when i look at their. You know the other guys obviously we. You know we've talked about. Derek fisher we kevin bijou was kind of a go around the around. The field type guy but when you look at the other outfielders that they've kind of relied on brick. Jonathan davis. i wonder you know. How does that get dealt with. I mean rental grischuk. If i'm not mistaken it's gonna make just under ten million dollars this season nine nine third actually so i have to imagine that the blue jays are not just going to want to have him be the fourth outfielder. Because i think it's fair to say. George springer is going to be the starting center fielder so it'll be very interesting to see you know if i've said this before over the last couple of months you know if george springer to come to the blue jays. I predicted randall. Grischuk would get traded That was also before the francisco lindor moves. But still i think you know how do you how do you deal with. Having nearly ten million dollars potentially sitting on the bench for a lot of a lot of your season you know just definitely a good problem to have. And i'm happy to look into but you know it's just it is crazy. No the bluejays have three. I'm gonna say this right now. They have three elite outfielders. It'll be interesting to see how they wanna deal with. You know are other guys who previously were you doing fine but now there's you know there's a lot more competition on this on this roster for them and the more were hearing it just seems like ever since that linda traded just i guess the mets began to back off. But even jacob like you're mentioning the southfield without possibility of getting michael brantley. Now do you guys think with or without brantley. The blue jays make a move before their spring in terms of vegas cleanroom. Pretty much everything. That jacob just went over. This is without michael brownlee so pretty much. What you're saying is even if michael brantley comes a deal is even more possible. Almost hundred percent but with michael brantley is something else going to happen with some sort of shakeup in the outfield. Yeah i think with michael brantley one hundred percent. There's a deal happening. I think it's random grocery. I think that's who we all think it is without michael brantley. Alpay fifty fifty. I think the blue jays are content with what they have now and they can get past With what. They have now. In terms of squeezing in playing time for greg for hernandez for gurriel. But i think they would still be pushing for deal and would still want to get rid of someone like risk. Yeah same thing if they do somehow managed to acquire michael brantley than you know for sure. Randall grischuk him. I'm not gonna no disrespect to him. But i think he's gone if that happens but if a deal isn't made it is difficult because if you're talking order trade random bricks not terrible but at the same time you know you'd maybe have to throw in a little bit more in order to get a return that you're justifying it. Also you know the ten million dollars or nearly ten million dollars. That's you know relative to other sports. That's not a ton of money but ten million dollars is still not a small amount of money. So they would they would have to justify that but yeah i'm gonna keep as of right now if they don't acquire him mark. You're probably more accurate you know with the fifty fifty. They might just leave it. Because i believe he's only under contract until i wanna say it's twenty twenty. Five is the year that he twenty twenty four offseason going into the twenty s he. That is only a couple more years so it will be. I don't think it would last for the entirety of that that contract by from this season's perspective and going into this year. They might just see what they have in him and see what they have with their current roster. You know maybe just until Trade deadline. Something like that. yeah. I got his contract right here. And it's a five year deal. Fifty two million dollars for ran grischuk. he's going to be making nine just under ten million in two thousand twenty one in twenty are twenty twenty one sorry twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three are going to be the exact same nine point. Three three million so more of a it was more of a. it's a balanced contract. But yeah something may be on the marks with that. But i guess before we wrap it up to our the jays done with these big names. I don't know. Yeah that's another thing people. I don't know why but they've seemed to be obsessed also with trevor bauer tonight. So what do you see happening. There are the blue jays still in the market for a big name like that. We're seeing they're still in the market for like a b list name. Someone like michael bradley. Who's not a star but still a very good player. So does that mean they still have the money the the space the time to spend on someone like bauer who we know the blue jays are strong contenders for the probably right up there with the angels in terms of likely decide him. Are they still going to be involved for him. I'm gonna say yes just because vanita starting pitcher and when you look at the blue jays we've said this over the last few years the last couple of weeks. The most of their core is on rookie contracts. Obviously now there's twenty five million dollars that they owe to to george springer they owe twenty million They they owe ten aurora twelve. Th there's not it's not like there's they are still spending money but they still have money left and also even if they didn't have enough money to blow somebody like trevor bauer out of the water. I think it's fair to say that they're still going to try and trying to pursue him but like you said murgles maybe not necessarily stars but still guys that can easily get the job done. You know we've talked about guys. Like jayco taurasi taiwan walker all throughout the off season. You know they. i definitely still should be targeted. I the jays need a starting pitcher even with the to believe they signed Who was it they signed. They signed if you tha today. A few bullpen guys but they still need starting pitching so they will definitely need to acquire somebody whether it's somebody like tribe. Trevor bauer who they can say. You know we'll give you what you ask for or slightly less or they say okay know this. This guy that maybe. Isn't you know an ace but still can get the job done. We'll sign you to yet jacob. Sorry for leaving you out in the dark like that with the names. I'm just me and marcus. Stole just going through all these twitter instagram. But here's the thing that jacob. I completely forgot about this until you just mentioned it. Yes we know about the tyler chat with signing but the blue jason kirby eight surly tonight in case. Everyone forgot this guy in all star. Twenty nineteen era below or below two last year. He was I believe it was only five or six starts He was injured by a massive addition. If yates can get healthy look like what he did in two thousand nineteen and Before that but yeah. They're still going to be adding. And there's no question that i think they'll still be someone involved for trevor bauer. Njit real muto. So those are the top two remaining names. And i was wrong about springer. I said on the record i was hoping i hope i was wrong. And i hope. I'm wrong with this. Because signing trevor bauer. I think that would just explode the roof off of the city right now. Even though a lot of us are fine with the springer deal as it is like it's just it's so weird to see free agent commun- here. I don't understand the like it's something. We don't really experience a lot. Yes re last year. But george springer tops that from last year all due respect to ryu in terms of the number. It's just it's i don't know how to explain it to something that jas fans don't really experience. But yeah you kirby eight today and tyler wooded that more of a debt signing but kirby hates that could potentially be a very very high reward if he gets back in on-track and there's michael brantley rumors. More rumors are coming on a plane. Hopefully when we report on news there's no bash from other people on social media saying they're interested in everybody. I think this has changed a lot of it. Now and a lot of the shapiro haters and atkins sater's will be going quiet for a long time. But i'm sure they'll show up again at some point. Who knows but massive day for the blue jays massive. I honestly can't believe i forgot. His name is just literally the right. Now it's eleven thirty in the past honestly like two hours. I'm just been flooded by all these different These twitter users and they're all tweeting mentioning a million other names and it's funny with instagram. Not necessarily being the post not shown in chronological order. Sometimes i see you know. Signings from three days ago happened today. Actually with the kirby. It's funny thing. As i said this to mark literally right as i opened instagram to to look at the george springer post i got a notification saying kirby eight to sign with the blue jays like. Okay that's perfect. Timing a lot of a lot of stuff happening right now. It's it's funny and it's awesome. It's been an overwhelming i. Guess what like twenty five hours at this point. We're recording this eleven thirty at night on the tuesday. Obviously the day that george springer was signed and we had the last night the news that the blue jays sign. Tyler tat would. We had this morning. The news that they signed kirby yates Or close to a deal. Pretty much official or her has close to official as we can get And then now within the span of twenty five hours we have the biggest deal in blue jays franchise history signing george springer hundred and fifty million It's really been overwhelming. It's been crazy. But it's awesome to see the fruition of an off season of work. Time was running out but the blue jays finally finally Got the deal. I want to ask you guys Before we go to some thoughts from listeners and questions they might have What do you guys think. This deal has in terms of an impact on the blue jays. This season where where were your expectations for the bluejays before this deal. And where are they now. Because for me. I think it's gone from the blue jays being competing for a card to being guaranteed wildcard and A very strong contender for alias. Champs and i would say probably a favourite for aol champs and getting deep into the postseason i'm saying a ails es at least alcoa s. I don't know what you guessing on that. But that's what i'm gonna put out there right now you can. We're going to be in october. I'm gonna play this audio back. But i'm saying bluejays show. Why not they lose in six games to the i dunno the yankees kept. Here's my prediction. What do you guessing how as for actual like end of season results. I'd have to think for a second. Let's see let's just start. Let's start with the you know how this how this deal changes your perception of how the blue jays will do this season. I think i'll have to go right with with you. There and say cs if not the are going to the world series if not the afc can't even can't even think right now. I honestly the blue jays going to go out and say it. They probably have one of the best outfields in baseball right now. Top three starters infield is in progress you know people are still developing but they have a very very good team and like you said market takes them from a good team you know they. Obviously they were a. I think it was four games over five hundred this season they. They made the playoffs. You know it was a big jump in the right direction but now on top of the fact that this team has now been to. The playoffs in his has started to gain major league experience. They now add a superstar and they might not even be done. I mean we could come. We could have another emergency episode in two days. Maybe if they signed trevor valor but as of as of right. Now i'm gonna say the blue jays are going to. The world series is going to sound too bold. But i'm gonna say at least the american league for major league baseball had the blue jays. Hey i'm just saying. Jacob jacob you're the one the very first one. I predict the playoffs in two thousand twenty. Go ahead. it's good luck. Do you know what i'm saying. The blue jays when lose to the padres in seven games okay should be in the world series in the world series. yes should be interesting. I say they'd win. But i feel like i'll be pushing my luck a little bit there but i definitely they're definitely taking us deep into the into the fallen into the winter this season. I'm just. I'm in shock guys. I don't like i'm just looking. Many people are still tweeting. The names that these guys missed out on all of the just everything even last night with tyler chat with signing the complete one eighty we had from. What the heck are we doing. Why why's this guy being signed blah blah blah. And then of course people trying to explain to others at its depth signing to this. And it's it's crazy and i mentioned this about twenty minutes ago. I guess i'll say it again quickly before. I give my predictions you guys with your one word Actually wait no. Now it's more of a slam dunk. But i was what i was gonna say was when we did this. This segment i said the tampa bay. Rays mark is possible jacob. I believe you may have said likely. I'm not too sure about that. One but i know we both had possible. That's got to be certain now. No one hundred percent one hundred percent. Yeah that's certainly i think. Yeah so. we're all on the same page with that. And why not challenge the yankees won. I don't underst-. I don't see why can't be talked about them on paper. You know lot lots can change for sure. Injuries can happen but this team on paper. They've they've got to be up there with the yankees and marketing you nailed it of them going from impossible wildcard contender to a for certain wildcard. Get a wildcard team. So at worst now this team will be a wildcard team and We there's lots of bold predictions jacob. You're talking about a to briefly about these bold predictions that came out. I can't remember the guy's name but he did say the jays we're going to the world series. He did say that. And we spoke about this before the signings are this signing tonight. So maybe it's not as bold as it once was but A deep playoff run for this city. We know what happened in two thousand fifteen two thousand sixteen especially twenty fifteen. That was more of the entertaining year. you know no pun intended to the two thousand sixteen team but it would just be. It would be very special if this the jays can do something spanish. Our make something happen out of this season lots of uncertainty stall where they're gonna play attendants all of that. It's still going to look different. But george springer will be here long term and he will be here past this season the biggest signing in franchise history this team legitimate contenders for sure and I just i'm completely overwhelmed. Shocked of the complete one eighty that we all went through in terms of emotions from last night going through some listener responses that we have right now People are certainly pumped up about this but the main concern is whether they overpaid for For for springer. And like i said earlier. We've already discussed this. But that's what you have to pay it in. You know like i think. Joel sherman actually tweeted this Yeah he said. I think the blue jays had to pay what amounts to canada slash buffalo tax to finally win a star player but for where the jays are in their win cycle going. What probably was an extra sixty are makes sense for the organization for this player. So that's that pretty much sums it up. It makes sense for the blue jays and they had to pay for what they want to do. And because of the team that they are. We've talked about. Trevor bauer we've talked about michael brantley. Someone brings up. Jt romeo what do you see is blue jays situation in that market. We them their name bouncing around. We saw them as strong contenders along with the phillies. But never seemed like it was real real heavy interest from the blue jays. So where do you think they sit now in relation to to that catcher. I'm going to say that they're not going to be overly active in pursuing him. I i can't remember what i said when we originally talked about this but i have a feeling i probably said the same thing i trust any janssen. L. hundred kirk still relatively unproven because very small sample size. But i don't think that they're going to go out and say we're going to. We're going to acquire a a catcher and then basically scramble the rest of them because if they get if they were signed him we know all hundred kirk is going to be the third catcher. You split time between buffalo and toronto. Danny janssen will have a slightly limited role i. I don't think deluge israeli willing to do that. I think this george springer deal kind of shows that the corner fields positions were filled by young players. Who they expect to carry them for the next five six plus years and with random great chicken or no disrespect grischuk. But i just. I don't think that he was part of their long-term plan at least in this core george springer obviously now is so i. I don't think that necessarily real mutual will be heavily pursued by the blue jays just simply because the blue jays catchers and i mean obviously they had outfielders but i don't think that catchers necessarily where they're going to improve also like i've said they need pitchers and if they're going to do something i would rather them do that i even if it means they also get him. But i just now that the hype of george springer is finally among us. I think the blue jays they have to focus on their knees right now. Yeah absolutely and the jt realmuto thing. All three of us were just like just didn't didn't make sense. You have danny johnson. You have alejandro kirk and you've got other people in the system but it just you who knows what the budget is because they obviously have a budget from rogers what they're going to spend and they just gave away one hundred and fifty million dollars of it worth it though we. We're to discuss that anyways. And if you wanna still sign arms that earn need and if you want to look into. Somebody's stolen trevor bauer. You can't rule it out you just can't just now. It doesn't seem that it makes sense. But this team surprise me with this george springer signing but It doesn't i was never really too high on the jt rumors. But it's something to take note of If it you'd figure they've kind of backtrack a little bit and Just an example was the masses for the springer news. They backed off of the. They backed off of springer after lenore was acquired and it would only make sense that the blue jays i guess slightly step back. I'm not gonna say completely but it just doesn't. It didn't make sense to me at the time. it still doesn't make sense. Obviously the signing doesn't change that because it's different position but in terms of In terms of Position wise in that. It's just going to be. It's a little different but for money for money wise Just it doesn't make as much sense mark on the last podcast on the weekends you were mentioning names out there paxton odor rizzi many others. I can't even. I'm just so overwhelmed right now but those were the two that i remember for sure. And that's the jays aren't done. That's the best part about this. This michael bradley thing. I would not be surprised if this happens now. I just the same agency. With george springer be good friends with george springer. And if this happens then you're screaming some sort of move that's going to be made. Maybe a trade but for randall. Grischuk to i don't want to hate on randall. Grischuk too much I think at the time he signed this extension. I think it the right move for them because at the time they were rebuilding team. And you know the fact was that you needed overpay for him to stay here. You didn't want him going on the market because it was getting to a point where if you lost someone like him than the bluejays really had nobody. At the time. Saran grischuk still despite and perfectly. I'm still not convinced that he's going to be gone for twenty twenty one but i think if they were gonna make a move that it would be him he would be the odd man out. Don't be surprised. He still floating around in twenty twenty one and with george springer now here. Does that mean that tasker. Hainan is moves even more spends even more time as a d. h. Because i mean you're going to have no choice but to do something like that. The the outfielder based off of numbers as crowded as it is now. And if you bring in someone like michael brantley then that's just screaming for some sort of move but starting pitchers are still an area of need. I'm sure they're not done with bullpen arms and you cannot rule out. Jt realmuto. so i i don't know I'm not after what this team pulled off these past twenty four hours because it seems like that were the deciding factors that this past day is when they gain momentum pretty much past the mats was was today so that's why i won't rule anything out and it just it just proves that things can change in a matter of days These past few months all of us are especially me. I was not convinced that all and i remember texts you guys earlier tonight before it was official that i was slowly gaining optimism. I just. I had that feeling and Bloom you're not because you don't have to. But i had some sort of feeling that something was up and i'm rejoice. It's it's happening the biggest signing in franchise history but I don't know what else you guys think. It's just it's just crazy right now. I think the craziest part about this is that. I actually have to go to bed soon. I don't know. I don't know how i'm supposed to on not sleeping. So hyped up about this. And then just don't you just don't sleep. That's a solution. This feels like a kid on christmas morning. Honestly it's just it's this is a great time to be a blue jays fan. Yeah and i just want to say. I don't want to rub this in anyone phases but an episode ninety nine a couple of weeks ago. I did say that blue jays had a good chance of getting george springer. Now that the mets a traded for francisco lindor and then today. We saw a similar report saying after the gotland door. The mets kind of took a step back. They weren't as intense in their pursuit of springer. So not not say is right. But that was all due. Respect to steve cohen. All due respect to steve cohen they the decisions they made Today obviously the right decisions for the baseball club. But in in terms of onfield product they chose francis school. Indoor we chose george springer we can go our separate ways now. And i just i. It's a great great news anyways and going back to what we were talking about. Jt romeo i think you know. He was always kind of plan. C or a plan. It was always if they didn't get lemay hugh if they didn't get springer if they didn't get power then maybe they would get jt. Romeo but i think now that they have springer perito doesn't matter i it was always if they can't get an elite player somewhere also go for real muto but now it doesn't matter And talking about what you said about grisha looking back at that deal. Hindsight is twenty twenty right now. We know that tae oskar hernandez has broken out. He's an amazing hitter at the time that they signed ronald griffin to an extension he. I don't think laura's grill. Junior was even in the outfield yet. I think those a season. They signed him at the beginning of the season that he went down to the minors transition to the field. So i i think that hindsight is twenty twenty and if you're in that situation look at the deal maybe it's a little bit questionable but knowing what the blue jays new then it's not the worst thing in the world of course now it's a little bit of a mistake but we can live through. We can trade him. We can get someone else pitcher wise for it I want to wrap up our conversation now with one last thought from you guys. What do you think would capitalize the perfect offseason for the blue jays. Right is it. Complete now are we. Are we happy. Just walking away with tyler. Chat would robbie ray kirby eight and george springer 'cause we got the pitching somewhat. We got the fielder. We don't really have infield help but that was never something that had to happen. Can you walk away from this offseason. Being happy if the blue jays make no more deals or do you think they have to make another deal and if you do what deal do you want them to make. Who do you want them to go after. Well i think the off season is probably ninety percent complete. I've said like. I said all through the offseason. I want them to acquire a starting pitcher. And i still think that's what they need. Obviously with tyler chadwick kirby. It's very good additions to the bullpen. And those i'm happy with. I'm not at all complaining about those that the same time i still want some type of third starter or second starter depending on the quality of the starter they choose to come to this team and i know a lot of people are gonna say. Trevor bauer is that a possibility. I mean to be completely honest. I think the blue jays and they'll be active in pursuing him. Do think trevor bauer will pick the blue jays. I mean who after today. Maybe he says this team actually looks like it's going to be very good but you gotta think he's also been very vocal on social media about how how how much he's been talking to the other teams that have also been pursuing him. So i think you might end up seeing jake z taiwan walker. Type deal where he fits. The blue jays needs is going to do very well for the team. But isn't you know. He's not the george springer of the rotation. He's he's the guy that will basically do what he's asked to do. You know who knows maybe something like twenty sixteen where they signed up and everybody was angry about why it wasn't david price and we'll has ended up being an ace for three years. So who knows. Maybe that's what we see. They do need a starting pitcher. And i'm going to if it's not trevor bauer. I wanna hold that possibility. Still in my mind but i think for the most part. It's not it's going to be somebody somebody along the lines. Basically the plethora of beer starters but they're not ace's but the guys that are going to definitely fill that rotation into a very good job at it. The off season is nearly complete. I don't think it's complete just yet. There's lots of touch-ups they have to do. Starting rotation is something of an area of need still jake All these names taiwan walk. I would love to see taiwan walker comeback. He's expressed so many times on twitter of his and staying here. There's been lots of tweets where he's kind of hinted at i would love to see him. Come back jay goede rizzi other names james paxson how cool that be but they needed. I still think they need. Add a starter. I think we're still one starter away from being nearly complete but if you were told me they would walk away. The offseason today on this date. After george springer completely finished i would make i would say i would call it acceptable. I would either give it a b. plus or a minus may named minus probably at best. They need a few more touch-ups arms in the bullpen and the one more starter and That that would nearly complete it for me. An ad for a team where they were at the beginning of the season to the end. Then i think it would be almost complete and almost the best possibility best case scenario for them and yet i guess you can't rule out. Trevor bauer. i just from the start. I just wasn't too keen on the possibility of because they couldn't afford him just because of his preference of playing but he's been meeting with the team. Maybe this appeals them a little bit. But i'm sure you can be healed by the dodgers rosters while in other teams out west Like the angels. But this definitely helps jays around the entire league as well gives him that. Look that we're finally for real. We finally got a free agent for that amount of money. It's just so bizarre to see this happen. It's usually a trade where you're giving up your entire farm system but it's nearly complete offseason. I'd be fine with the way it ended now but there's still a few more pieces away from me to say it was complete a this year for them. I've just got two names colton long jacob. That's all those. Those are the guys i want. That would be a perfect. Yeah that's my dream. If i could make anything in the world happened it'd be cold and long jacob. That's it that's all i need. It might be too much to ask for now that we've seen the kind of money they've already got on the books but that that's all i want. I think that would make the perfect team if the blue jays get them. They're going to the world series. I'll say that now look at us. Now we're all we're all spoiled now with our love it. We just want more and more. We're getting greedy. Alright well any final thoughts about this before we wrap it up. I think it's just this is a good time to be blue jays fan. Anybody listening you know you are. You are about to enter. Probably the best era of blue jays baseball with a long window and it off spring training is a month away. It is oh i think opening day dan. Shulman tweeted is seventy three days away. So it's a couple of months and then we get to see these guys. It's gonna come your faster than you think. Things are looking up all right. Well thank you. Everyone listened thank you for sticking through and thank you for listening to this are scattered thoughts. You know midnight on a tuesday about the best thing in the world to happen to the blue jays in the past few years. So thank you very much We'll catch you probably this weekend. Who knows what the blue what happens over the next few days rating radio is.

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Sean Has Some Passionate Firery Thougths On Carlos Correa

The Sean Salisbury Show

14:03 min | 2 weeks ago

Sean Has Some Passionate Firery Thougths On Carlos Correa

"What happened and he's got a lot to say about. Sean salisbury continues on seven. Nine hundred astros went eight to one. Good start for ranking good. Start correa star for alvarez. Start for michael brantley. There's no shock there. I for my sanity. Yeah good. start the boo boos were out. That's okay no big deal crap happens. You're going to get booed all year. Long deal with it. And they dealt with the last night to the tune of eight runs and zack cranky. Gave up no runs and pitched six innings and scatter and a handful of hits or a little less than a handful of hits and getting the win. all right. Well listen. I i shouldn't have to qualify this and i i'm going to just one last second is it carlos correa. I like him. he's a good player really phenomenal talent. But i think he's. I think he's he. I'm okay if he if this is approach. Give it your best season and and we'll see another uniform. I i don't and he should love himself and he should love how good player he is. But we would also love two hundred and fifty games three or four straight years in a row and and put up. I understand that everybody's hung lau the great leadership the great leadership and a great postseason. But here's what he had to say and chandler rome's article. Yesterday we didn't close at all career said before thursday's opening day. They were not really any negotiations. They add the extension of six years at one twenty and then they changed it to five years for one hundred and twenty five million. Which to my mind i think comes out to how much ear twenty to twenty five. Twenty five twenty five year. Exactly he ain't worth thirty a year right now. He's just not and here's what he had to say about that. He goes They made it very clear to me. We don't believe in long contracts. We don't believe in big contracts. I guess twenty five million a year is not a big contract for guys played over one hundred fifty games once once. I hit free agency. I'm going to look for a big long contract. They made it very clear that they do not believe in that. Okay there you go. That's where he stands. So the chances of carlos correa being here right now. Don't look very good. That is don't according to his deadline and ended yesterday so he's gonna test free agency. I've hope he plays well. Plays under fifty games. Because they'll get paid. I just don't remember the last time. A guy has never played but one time one hundred and fifty plus games. Good player coming off. An average season is best. Yes last year. Other than the postseason in a shortened season. And i'm a big fan but we talked about all the positives. Let's start talking about some of the things he doesn't bring to the table. And that's the continuity of every single day being shortstop also some of the production when he's out there on the field it's been it's been up and down at the plight. I know we get caught well home where we got. No we don't have to pay him thirty million. When did five million a year become not a big contract. If you love yourself so much damn well bet on yourself then if you love it if you're that good hit three hundred hit thirty five home roger. Six four to twenty hit thirty home runs do that and play a hundred and fifty four games. Listen i think the guy's an enormous skill set. But i sometimes i wake up pissed and think did did you old. That's not a big contract. My bad right okay. Because it's not lender because right now lindores a far better player than you. That's why that's exactly why. Production player durability. He's been better simple period. I just can't believe that twenty five million dollars is we didn't get close. Didn't get close on twenty five million or your so. The truth is korea. Obviously if twenty-five not close and not a big contract and five years is just six years originally now five but for more money increased it. But that's just you know what i'm with the astros on this one hundred percent. I wouldn't get many more than five or six years either. No i wouldn't either if that's not a long contract six years for a guy who hasn't been durable but shows potential. I got news for. I'm tired of paying players across the league on potential. I am in any sport now. I get it. And if he gets it if they would've paid him thirty million bucks yesterday. I just said okay. Great good for you. Let's see if he can prove it. But the fact that it's twenty five million dollars and that's called not a big contract for a guy who one time in his career is played one hundred fifty plus games and and and other times of productions been just the guy production says just a guy at times so just a guy at times which in many cases. He's been just a guy more than he has been a superstar. Stop his we. We as fans got to stop comparing him to lynn door. If you want to compare the potential right you want me to go through all the guys with great potential. That ain't making twenty five or thirty million a year to stop it. I'm a career fan. I am but i'm also a realist. So twenty five million bucks a year one hundred twenty five million five guaranteed would they just told me they don't believe in big contracts that's big it his case i listen listen. I know they're coming off an eight two one win but this has got to be discussed for my mind if that's the case he he should in deserves to test free agency. Now if you're as good as we all think you are and you think you're got a great idea. Stay healthy go off. If you're pissed at the organization and just wanna go play. Go kick butt and you can go get your thirty. Plus a year go hit two forty five and be begging for twenty five million a year. I listen i i. I don't have to be the guy in this town. The kiss his ass and says i'll pay the man thirty four million a year. Pay the man. What lindores got why. I don't have to i about four or five other shortstops out there that are in the same category. I don't have to pay him thirty two million bucks a year for nine years. You know why. I don't have to 'cause today he ain't worth it. He may be one hundred and eighty days. He may be in five hundred days today. He's not worth thirty two million a year for eight or nine years. Can i say it any louder. Great talent great potential had leadership skills through the roof great clubhouse guy all that but when twenty five million dollars a year for a nondurable player with potential and a great postseason last year is not a big contract that i'm watching the wrong sport. I'll get his wallet. Like i said if they said paid thirty i said go get it. I don't i wouldn't have paid it but go for it. Thirty million for four years or five years okay. I'm in it's obvious he wants thirty. Plus million four eight or years. And i wouldn't pay it. He could beat down my door. But i wouldn't say it would not do it. Good for you astros. Make him go do his thing martin. What's up yeah. Hey i won't be very long. I'll just say this much for the astros. The best they can do for this is is. They'll have to tender him a qualifying contract offer and that way when they do that they'll get First round pick and return on a. And i believe a sandwich pick between the first and the second round like a couple of picks i think unless the Collective bargaining agreement has changed on on on the compensation. And that's all. I have and in thank you very much. Thank you martin appreciate it. I don't know how you guys feel. But if you'd pay him thirty million for eight or nine years we're going to have a fun argument on the show today. David welcome in sean. I'm with you hundred percent one. He's not worth it to. It's not a potential conversation with lindores. Lindores better yes. He's better on paper. He's better when he's on the field off the field quite frankly and crazy. He's never sniffed home runs. He'd never been this the potential. we're supposed to get. Yeah you get flashes of it. You're right most important. They gotta shortstop on the roster under contract is as offspring man. I dunno cray. Understand that i listen. I'm all for david i'm with you. I'm david excuse me. Carlos correa feeling good about himself. I am. I think we all should feel good about ourselves. The fact of the matter is carlos. Correa is not the best player on this team hundred percent. He's not the he ain't the second best player on this team. Now if you wanna go with potential you know what else david. I had. Great potential to okay. I my potential. When i was coming out of high school going to college before i get great potential to that'll get you an apple in a roadmap i don't wanna hear it. Okay i like carlos correa greats at me a little bit the twenty five million dollars a year for guys played one hundred and fifty games once plus taylor i gotta go get a big contract. Well go perform because so somebody's paying go to forty with twenty two home runs this year and watch. How many teams pay thirty two million. Only an idiot would pay him thirty million dollars a year for eight or nine years right now. A frigging idiot wouldn't do that. I appreciate you saying the quite apart out loud. I'll hang up and listen. Thanks david appreciate it. I'm not listening. You guys call up tissue. Want kiss his ass as much as you want. I don't really care about professional athletes and having to kiss their ass. I don't one single frigging bit. Okay especially coming out of a covid year. What people are getting fired. And i know baseball kind of sports. Pro sports is different. I don't getting the man's wallet at your job. If you're foreign pays you a doubles your salary. He should good. You should get it. And if god bless you at my job when my contract comes up i'm gonna try to milk them for every frigging penny. I promise you 'cause i'm damn well worth it right. And i got potential but guess whose money i'm not gonna get howard frigging stern okay. You're not close but not quite that much okay. So point is is that i get it you should and once you get it. I don't ever have a problem worth which you can negotiate but when you got it and your vast twenty-five and we're looking at your head. Listen i like. I do not personal. I don't make it personal. Just like i'm sure he's not gonna make it personal but maybe he'll take it personal that they didn't give him thirty million plus for nine years when he starts talking to he should be lindores category not saying he said that if he wants that kind of money that's how it feels. He's not lender if they called me up. Tomorrow and said kraft door. You couldn't get lindores name out of your mouth fast enough for me to make that deal for the astros not fast enough and i like carlos graham i do but i'd listen but i don't feel the need because i happen to be well. Yeah we gotta keep yeah you gotta keep them when their prices right. You gotta overpay for plenty of them. James click jim crane. This is the one of the smart moves that you guys were making. Not cowering down because social media pressure says well. Lynn door got it. Let's pay korea. Just because he plays the position had a good postseason in well. He's got potential needs of former high draft. Pick and he's good in the clubhouse. That's all fine and dandy. I love the postseason. Part is great like eventually everybody goes to that. We pay for the regular season correct. Yes yes and one hundred and sixty two of them or hundred and fifty five of them. Not ninety of them. Not a buck ten k. So this has nothing to do if us walked in here. Right now i i. I've just as big as that cat is okay and said you don't think i'm thirty five million a year. I'd say no. I actually don't but if you can get it you're worth it. That's exactly what i'd say. Okay and i think he's a great player. Sometimes i think he's a really good player a lot of the time and i think he's an average player sometimes too. I think he's enormous talent. The potential one hundred percent of the time but if twenty five million dollars a year is something that we roll our eyes that for his situation. Then you guys are you guys are on frigging crack okay crack. I hope he has a monster. You and i hope he cracks for thirty five million a year. 'cause that if he does that'll mean he was one of the five. Mvp candidates or more in this league. And i hope he does. I'm pulling for him pulling for the astros. My red sock suck. So i can't wait for the astros to play well but along the way just because he's an astro if you think i'm going to stand up and kiss his ass and say i'll tell you what james click and jim crane won this round by not giving him more than he deserves right now. Twenty five million plenty right. Put up shut up. Let's go prove it. Love carlos correa also love the astros twenty. Five million dollars seems like a lot of money to me. We're taking your calls. I wouldn't pay him thirty two million for nine years. Would you seven three two one. Two five seven ninety.

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Hour 2: Trash Talk

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46:39 min | 1 year ago

Hour 2: Trash Talk

"If you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then today number fifteen smu look at state unbeaten taking on number twenty four Memphis last well I think this is the first shefty the hot seat here was sneaky Hembo with game seven probably not right but I'M GONNA Guess Buildings Golden State losing to Cleveland and Lebron gained seven yeah the straight out game sevens championship rounds where was he Hembo is now in the NFL on what legitimately on this Halloween be the busiest Sports Day of twenty the world series the greatest upset in the history of the sport how in the world getting back up soon what does it mean and a basket wall that had actual punches now see Samantha in my studio game seven of the World Series Nats and Houston really been you know he's he's been good I'll play also he's really kind of their secret weapon in their line-up you know he top seven he's only thrown seventy four pitches attuned nothing lead but here's Anthony Rendong I told regained seventy four pitches right here honestly sewed it I the nationals down to two one Garrett Cole he's coming out then I'm bringing Gary Cole- right now bullpens met low taxes game seven on the way and Kendrick just a professional have been good for a long time you know these veterans carrying nationals. Want Sorta with the plate against Roberto soon up with two outs in that is Soda Getting Dont how Garrett Cole it's every bit a game and then it isn't that's Atta meeting and that he does right here Michael Brantley last out a loser the nats take game seven of the World Series they are the twenty nineteen we do we kept by new variant we're world champions I can't even describe this feeling what you're twenty one and you're so you know what that feels like and I wanna make it clear just how big of an upset this the white sox who through the world series how did the nationals do this it was amazing oldest team in the Big Leagues Veterans But they had that young mix of getting robe listen in Soto relief pitcher it became about the starters Strasbourg is the MVP and they don't get there without Sherzer bullpen super bowl pens and everything that came down to the starting pitching to win the world so let's talk about the starting pitcher who didn't you know he was a little ticked off about coming game I would have brought him in the best pitcher in the building available it's out but is it your best option to bring a guy who hasn't come in and relief since high school yeah no doubt ready for this and you know how to put them out there and I'll say this you watch the game you watch it and you get a couple of hours sleep they win what do we take from that I guess it's the disembodied by subtraction you know him you know him being not being there with them you know being a good player but you know they were able to pull there were nine thousand nine hundred thirty one and now they're the champions of the baseball world meanwhile up by twenty so forget about all of that just watch the two big man going at it in the corner of your screen aside we sometimes joke around about NBA fight this one was a full on role it's probably have this content for one another Simmons seems to have Karl Anthony towns of show sees no question towns got the worst of it and feed would score nineteen towns would score thirteen the sixers would so not that was not a Lotta control myself you know you happens competitive is a Hong swinging emory trying to get him show you some of the social media posts that would ensue well into the night and be taking Bridie of obvious reasons we're GONNA have a lengthy conversation about the significance of that social media is we show it again here on his left hand broke a bone in that hand vis surly or this morning well as Bob Myers said they're going to do more imaging a couple of months and they'll have an opportunity I think the draft very high and then bring back were a year ago in the warriors seemed unstoppable with five all stars in their starting lineup and now you borderline playoff team in the western conference with him what does all of this mean big picture now next season and it reminds me and we'll have nineteen ninety-seven Greenie with the San Antonio Spurs Robinson went down coming back if they get a top five pick to get a guy like Anthony Edwards who plays for Georgia which people should how they flipped Diangelo Russel I totally agree but let's not let's not just I understand this isn't what but there are also down forty seven to fourteen at the top of the second quarter with the game here for de lo and draymond green draymond green is going to really step up his offensive performance he the last five years it's going to be a very long year for that team in San Francisco Okay let's get with a reporter when he was asked if the browns had lacked urgency on a possession at the end in the lack of on the clock is running and we had a penalty you wanna give him the ball back no you don't play you don't know that ended but it was by no means over because then Baker Mayfield went on twitter and tweeted everybody wants to gets okay to lose that y'all would say that I've gotten complacent my sense of urgency is an all time high and if have you heard from Baker about the reporter he's telling the reporter you've never played this battle we're basically Baker Mayfield doesn't like the reporter twenty dollars and that's fine no on the ropes and there are about to be knocked out they are every other year in Cleveland everybody thought I just say no listen you don't think bill bill gets ask the old franchising and Baker Mayfield talked about your bravado and everything they loved about it we always celebrate how he talks trash how funny is but the problem is he's not getting protecting and he's not throwing version of that greeny but to Nick's point I don't know that there is a direct correlation in my opinion between you're doing for whatever reason isn't working so I would try a complete overhaul last year it because they're losing you win things go away we'll they were all pieces in this game we all have our own roles to play and Baker can choose to play his anyway AAC yourself the center of attention when things are going well you must be prepared to he's giving me saying don't call it this when it fits and call it that wouldn't otherwise he's the is which I think is a fair thing to say and we can also say hey bro good football passes him I've got some other things to do here shefty Patrick mahomes officially limited in practice the home himself said if it was a playoff game he would have been out there they're taking it day by day best team in this Fort San Francisco taking Arizona what are the cardinals going to do it running back it's very interesting renewable with an ankle injury and chase edmunds already out with a hamstring injury so it'll be the numbers they're putting up our historic but the forty niners may be just as good if not better and determine picked off Carl Allen last week he put the tweet out there and in the tweet he says Hello Mayo own for you I'm GonNa tell you exactly what he's talking about take a look at the tape this is a dagger formation buddy all he has to do now is catch the ball oftentimes fans don't they're offensive and they're so dominant that suffix outstanding and they can do a segment to talk about Bosa what he's doing up front with the rest of that defensive line is doing plus those linebackers we will see this year is the number one pick calorie taking on this year's number two pick Nick Bosa three or are you taking Bosa I think it's an easy answer I love defense is great but Kyle Moraif I hate that is true and column is much better than average to above average quarterback he's Gawker defense he's been really impressive in his rookie year being undersized he's going to be a great asset MVP that year von Miller was on the field and at that point in time I realized neak it pays tired defense was great throughout the history of football. I could point to a lot more quarterbacks who had success I quarterback in an elite quarterback means a lot but there's the argument reporters at the highest stage average quarterback that's one thing is he going to be a really good quarterback I think he's going to be really good as long as to what happened on the court between Karl Anthony Towns Joel embiid really be coveted by other teams in the off season that's the question the answer is coming missile spark last night how about this go on here we you gotta get quite attractive the rules of physics suggest he's betrayed does he have a point to those questions more you're watching get up on ESPN website for full details and safety information one of the scariest things that can happen to a guy is that first morning you wake up you're GonNa Start Losing your hair then think about a year from now it's all gone in everybody used to think skin-care and sexual wellness for men prescription solutions backed by science written by a cost hundreds if you went to the doctor or pharmacy so go to forums dot com slash espn it has a world series uh-huh forgettable story they've climb to the champions of the baseball world can they do it again. Caesar's says the Astros story today but it's a day that's been jam packed Williams we haven't even shown this highlight of just to be in contention to win the West Yeah he's guarded a lot Isaac Bonga and not especially well there's a game all day long it's a two point game rockets now down one forty seven one thirty there's lots of Westbrook he had a triple double seventeen points twelve assists ten rebounds but here we go after GonNa make the second he misses but watch the Defense Riyadh your morals GonNa give it up final I guess in a lot of different ways meanwhile J. will we run the floor again steph curry you just step up off pensively this is going to be a learning experience for a team but next year they will be the favorite on the floor what did you make of that I love it I mean Karl Anthony towns is a guy that's in the MVP conversation between the two of them if you will went well into the night and we'll show you some of the posts between kind and so this got nasty both on and off the floor I wanted to give everyone a chance to go behind the in ages so I think we all have slightly different perspectives and all this and J. Welds your sport so we'll let you have the first that kind of nasty on social media I don't condone language but and and got to say we'll meet me in the back lock this back locker room is it's called social media three point seven million followers on instagram Karl Anthony towns has two point five million followers on instagram name on the back of the Jersey but you're representing the name on the front of Jersey as well the I'll give you two biscuit on the basketball you know that's the air we grew up in but you know it is what it is I was proud of card I think the and it's just how these kids are raised everybody gets out and gets mad about the babies and they all basketball let me everybody's live to what point you want him to throw hands because that wouldn't be any more productive this day and age one could be unbothered by the fact that they're actually physically fighting over the court but then bothered by the AH quickly to address what you said Dominique there is an instant reaction to cooler heads in theory prevail and I guess I would just ask would you post that language on your social media know for some I represent something but that's because part of our job is to be yeah you know we talk about loud these young you know young guys coming up now I've known cats as he's been fifteen years old cat is always about his brand that's not who as us all the time but that was a moment where you actually WanNa see cat by WanNa see him get in a different mentality like they're not even it definitely GonNa play in his era I'm GonNa say that my twenty one year old you know self as an athlete they would use in front of a microphone if being interviewed after the game by me or someone like me and I'm holding I'm saying this is locker room talk I mean I don't have a it is looming over this is the idea of like their role models are in fact my parties are now being paid to be role models to be athletes and entertainers and you would be I wasn't even looking at it from a role model I'm just looking at it from basis brand I am just stays on in a way that you couldn't have people it's morning I don't even know that I take a strong position one side of the other but I think it is a fascinating thing because I would have been a very very big deal the world has changed all right we'll take a break as we continue Jamal Adams let's Kyrie in the nets at seven eastern then Lebron AG and the Lakers taken on Luca is basically trash talk to every person in this room yeah what's going going at it but that's the reason everyone excited because Kevin Durant is here he is in the building her gained seven or the world series with me Nats in Houston taken on the Astros Pitching Wellstone commander the game seventy four pitches You Know Oh school I said a little pitch cutting down on the way but you know how it was able to slow down the moment better hitter than doing a long good throws the last pitch of the two thousand nineteen season the celebration is on in a big way we'll have a lot of you here we're next year begins let's get a couple of predictions we start with Garrett Cole who was obviously for me hopefully he ends up with the Yankees Fan You know how grady was this year was anymore so he clearly seems to be on his way out let's talk then about Stephen Strasburg who was the mvp the best pitcher You know on that team this season and you know the I think he deserved then I love it all right and and so we've got the Yankees they're now suck about a former Yankee and then as you're old manager put you know I think Jones won't come in you know he's a winner he's one everywhere he's been and you know I think he's Oh keep going again congratulations to the nationals they win it on the road last night to football jetstar during the trade process edgy called me and he told me was on Air Donald Patriot don't take calls on Tom Brady I mean that's where Friday that you won't be moved and negotiate terms with other teams three days later but look I'm 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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 424: Can LA Repeat? and Collective Bargaining Tax

GSMC Baseball Podcast

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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 424: Can LA Repeat? and Collective Bargaining Tax

"Hello everyone and welcome back to the gmc. Baseball podcast brought to you by the gmc. Podcast network. i'm your host jack right. our end. today is another jam packed. Show with a ton of news really all sorts of latest developments in the mlb world and everything in between hope. Everyone is staying safe as always unhealthy. I'm glad some things have started kind of reopen around here in pittsburgh slowly but surely i actually went back to my announcing job not too long ago. I do play by play announcing and then p. Announcing and i went back for pa but not play by play at holy by the sort of february. I'll be able to get back on the call for some games. But until then i'm very very happy doing what i've been doing for the last ten months and finally getting back into a announcing just one more thing. I get to add to everything else. I've been doing but anyways enough of all that. Let's get right into this episode. Because i to i start off with discussing the latest news and the mlb all of the recent free agent signings in any other news in the baseball world. There's been another major shakeup in the mlb. So i'll touch on that here soon. After that i'll get into discussing what predictions i have for the al east this year with a few big time players obviously making their way to certain teams in the division all-share where i see the teams falling this year. And who is going to make the biggest and some of the biggest impacts on their new teams later on. I'll discuss on an article. I was reading from the athletic in regards to the competitive balance tax in baseball and why this off season has been an interesting case for some teams in trying to stay under that mark without getting hit with a tax. I'll discuss what the tax is what it is this year and then how it does affect some teams in also get into a little bit of a discussion on my opinion on kind of baseball. Not really having a hard salary cap. And what i think. That's doing to baseball in kind of the grand scheme of things but be sure to stick around for the final few minutes of the show today as we'll get into another by it or denied segment and i'll get into whether i buy or deny the idea that the dodgers could repeat their world series win. I'll share why. I think they will or won't in twenty twenty one so a really good show ahead of us a lot of different things going on. But i think i'll start first off. You know getting into the recent news surrounding the blue jays as they were the lucky suitors to land a highly sought after free agent. One of the biggest free agent names. This offseason george springer six years one hundred and fifty million dollar deal. This is john norms. Move by the blue jays. And i think that we all knew going into this offseason at least even the early stages of the offseason. This team had expressed an interest in wanting to spend money. I think that their understanding that they have a nice blend of young talent and then establish talent kind of up and coming talent for for instance hernandez he had a breakout season in two thousand twenty lords. He had a really great season. Batted above three hundred randall. Grischuk he was also very good in their outfield. Now we're adding george springer so you've got arguably one of the best hitting outfields from last year now going into this. You're adding george springer. And i have to say george. Springer brings a lot to the plate more. I think than randall. Grischuk does i'm going to get into it a little bit here. I don't think ronald Is about baseball player. But i think george springer in terms of his power numbers and his pop in his bat all of that. What the driving of the runs in the production that he'll bring offensively. I think will be much higher than randall. Grischuk but having grischuk kind of that fourth in the outfield. that's not too shabby. That's a solid kind of utility backup if if someone is injured and you throw them in there. You're going to be just fine and you don't have to worry about wherever grandma grischuk is hitting. That's going to be a big hole in our lineup. Not the case the guy can clearly play. He's established himself as a good baseball player. Now they were also reportedly going after michael branly but it was never finalized. It was a very similar situation that we've seen in sports over this offseason actually in the nba. There was an instance where that happened. Where there's an initial report that team's going to be signing with this team and then it comes out later that they're not in the resigned somewhere else so brantley wound up going with the with the astros. He wound up resigning two year. Deal again really unfortunate. That they weren't able to land him because if they had landed him and george springer while that would have been a serious serious hitting lineup. I mean that would have been scary because what you could have done is you could have moved guys around from the d. h. the outfield. You could probably stuck michael brantley over at d. h. I mean now in houston. I'm going to get into in a little bit here. I don't wanna unpack too much but with your alvarez coming back he's going to be moving to the d. h. That means michael. Brantley will probably have to go back out into the outfield. I mean if he was in toronto he probably would not have to do that. He would theoretically. I would think be h. So hopefully him. Staying in houston was a wise move on his part but if not. I think that he's definitely going to regret not going to toronto. But it's definitely an aggressive move by the blue jays. And i really liked this approach that they've got going on. I mean charlie. Montoya has been a a sensation really. I mean. he's been a savior for the blue jays. He's done such a nice job at slowly over time building this team up into what they are now. And again with vlad junior hopefully having or at least on the verge of having a huge year kevin busia the same thing boba shed has clearly proved himself as a very good baseball player. High engine review coming off a al cy young finalist season. Robbie ray gets resigned. there. I don't know what to think of robbie ray going there because in all honesty i'm kind of wishy. Washy on how good of a pitcher. He still is did not have a great season last year. Actually i will say though. When he got traded from the diamondbacks he did wind up having a much better finish to the season than he did with the start. So maybe that was just you know. He kind of needed a little bit of time to warm up almost but again. I think that they're hitting is completely resolved. They went out and got curb gates again. A closure that had a very tough twenty twenty but had a sensational twenty nine thousand nine so really going after that bullpen pitching tyler chat would also signed by the blue jays so they're making nice subtle but yet are also allowed moves that are you know putting people on notice and putting other teams on notice. Hey we're here to stay. We're this isn't just some sort of rebuild phase. We're here right now. We wanna win now. This is where. I'll get into my initial point mention about springer and grischuk and this is why i say that springer's numbers power wise are going to be. I mean so much more impactful than grischuk grischuk has played seven years in the majors and two of the seven years. His opiates has been above. Eight hundred springer has played if the same amount of time maybe one year more. Let's say seven years just to keep it consistent. He's only had one season in the seven years. Where his eight where his was below. Eight hundred so when you talk about a guy that's had six seven years seven of his eight season the mlb with an opium higher than eight hundred and a couple years floating with nine hundred whereas the other guys is. There's only been two years where it was really outstanding. Jeremy last year i think he had a seven thirty. So nothing incredible. Nothing terrible you know kind of just middle of the road. If you will but springer definitely is going to bring a lot of pop into this lineup. And i'm really excited to kind of see how he kind of meshes with the team right and they're probably going to put him in centerfield so he put grill and you put hernandez on either end of him in the outfield. I think that's going to really expand. Not only their defense. But it's going to expand that lineup so much you can put in anybody everywhere. And i think adding springer that's going to be an x factor anywhere you put him in the lineup whether it's four thirty eight six. Wherever because you then sprinkling hernandez you sprinkle in correal you sprinkle and so on and so forth. You've got a lot of different guys that you could really work with now. Grischuk is still on contract for a little bit longer. So i don't know if they would really get rid of chuck in the long term. But they could do a couple of other interesting things in terms of maybe going out and getting some more starting pitching and trying to really bolster up. Maybe they're infield a little bit over third base over at second base. Well bijou's over. Its second really what what they're going to do with. Third is going to be dependent upon what vlad junior is going to. Is he going to be a first basement. is he going to be a third. Baseman is he. Going to d. h. What's he gonna do. So i think that's going to be a big telling sign as to what they then go out and try and get after the fact. Because they can't really craig trade grischuk because he's on contract for a little bit gurriel and hernandez had been playing very very well so i don't know if they really want to go after anybody in the trade market. I think they've got plenty of money to us. Mean maybe they go out and free agency they get someone like didi gregorius. And they moved over to third. They put deedee at a cabinet at second. And then put vlad junior at first. That would be a pretty solid starting nine if you ask me. And then you've got the three outfielder. So i think they have a legitimate shot to be one of the top teams in the al and really in the al east especially. I'm excited to see how this team is going to work this year. But again there was actually like. I mentioned before there was another player that was going to be involved in this big time. Pickup michael brantley. He signed. He resigned with the astros for two year. Thirty two million dollar contract of a solid move by houston right. I mean. I think we all know that. If they had let brantley and springer walk that would have been a massive hole in the outfield shore. Kyle tucker is an up and coming player. I will give him that but after that it would have been very thin. You would have had no other outfield so good. That brantley was able to stay there. Because i mean this team. I can feel it. Almost starting to crumble slowly but surely one piece is starting to be taken out after another. And i think it's just a matter of time before we start to really see the unraveling of this astros team. They've got a lot of decisions to make. Also because lance mccullers. He'll be a free agent soon. Carlos correa. He'll be part of this huge shortstop free agency. Classes upcoming offseason. So what are they going to do. I mean what do you do with all of these guys that are gonna be moving around and then the only real long-term deals that they have is alex bregman and jose. Altuve eight. that's it they don't have anybody else. That's on a long extended contract. So they're going to have to address that centerfield position because springer being gone. that's a wide open hole. Brantley will probably play either left or right and then cal talker will play the corresponding position. But i will say they could go after jackie bradley. Jr. and here's why. I think that you could get him for a low price but low price on the scale of the astros payroll so you wouldn't have to pay some astronomical amount of money but he would still get his fair compensation he's how he's coming off a really good season about a two eighty three at an above eight hundred zero. Pse believers that forty he had. I think eight nine home runs. He had a very very solid season across the board. So you're going to be probably getting him at a good time in his career and he's a great defensive center fielder he's going to probably fill. I mean if he puts together any sort of a productive season from the plate. I don't think springer will be missed at all because bradley will take over in center. And he'll be a way better defender in centerfield than i think. Springer is in my personal opinion. So i think that brantley going to stay in houston's very wise again they bring back some power hitting. He was second on houston's team last year and a ps behind none other than george springer. He's batted above three hundred. The last couple of years he slugged almost five hundred the last couple years so he's been having a really really good career in houston and it's good that they're gonna keep him around for two years. It was wise that they said two years. Because he's getting news early to mid thirties. So who knows how. Much more time he has in his career before he really start to see a little bit of a down downhill regression. So i think it was wise was two years and i think that if they continue to try and keep guys around as long as they possibly can. I think that they'll wind up. Maybe extending or prolonging the kind of collapsing. If you will of the astros. Because i mean it's just a matter of time really i mean i can kind of see it now i think the early stages of it but i think that soon enough. They're they're going to be kind of wear the cubs right now. So we'll have to see what happens but getting into another story now. There's been another team that again. I've been very critical of this offseason. Because they've been very quiet. And i don't know why they've been quiet because i think that they are probably one of the least teams. That can be quiet this offseason. And it's the minnesota twins. They went on and signed thirty eight year old pitcher j a one year eight million dollar deal. And we've seen instances where pitchers they continue to have great success in really good chris honestly some of the best baseball. They've played well into their thirties. I mean i'm talking late into their thirties. Look at charlie morton. Charlie morton was in an all-star until twenty eighteen. He didn't even like really come about or really kind of make any sort of a name for himself until until the twenty seventeen world series. So we didn't really know about charlie morton a whole lot until he was about thirty seven years old. So there is instances where guys can come in. They can still get it done even in the old age that they might be in in regards to a baseball player at least but they've been awfully quiet. The twins have overall. And i think that you lose jayco tarizi to free agency. You lose richhill the free agency. They need to add some depth in that pitching rotation rotation jose berrios obviously a very good pitcher kenta mida. He really highlighted that rotation last year. He finished in the cy young finalist for for the al last season. And then you also got randy. Dobnak randy dobnak. I was very high up on him midway through the season because he was having a pretty solid season. Now kind of plateaued a little bit. But i would say for the most part. They've got a decent pitching corp but the hitting is where they need to go out and really build around. I don't know why they haven't done anything hitting wise. You've got nelson cruz. And and he's a free agent and the only other guy on the team. That batted above three hundred. Last year for the twins was louise. Rei is and he was only twenty three games. He didn't even play in half the season. So when you got to your guys that again are is has not really proved himself. I would say and then cruises is a free agent. That's a lot of holes in this lineup. That you're going to have to fill in horry polanco. He is good. He did have a really solid. Twenty eight twenty nine hundred season. But after that i mean it's kind of like they have a lot of young pieces. I think that is the main thing they've got mitch garber. I think that's going to be a really good catcher in the long run. They've got a lot of young pieces that they can work with a lot of the guys that they have did not have good twenty twenty but again. I've mentioned this a million times. It's kind of the theme. And i don't think that we can really felt a lot of these guys. Were having bad seasons shore. It's probably not advisable. Shorts probably not widely accepted but at the same time. It's sixty games. How can you get into any sort of a rhythm. When there's this pandemic going on you're in and out of games games are being cancelled. It's impossible to get into a flow. And so i think that with these younger guys. It was probably especially challenging. Because they don't even have close to the service time that some of these older veterans have so it was probably very difficult for them to get into any sort of a rhythm. So i think with a full season maybe again. Maybe the twins know something that i don't and i hope that they do. Because you know the the hidden can be there. They have young talent. It's just a matter of showing up. I think the pitching is going to figure itself out. Because i think they do have good pieces with barrios. They've got mida. And i think that dobnak can be a nice third option for them. Hap- maybe falls in that fourth spot in the rotation. Maybe the third spot. And they kind of interchange dobnak but that aol central is going to be very interesting. I don't know if it's going to be the same kind of center. We saw last year. Because i think that the the white sox might completely dominate. I mean maybe the not even the indians. I couldn't even say the indians are going to have any sort of a shot. I mean maybe they do. But i would say the next team closest to the white sox would be the twins that would be my next closest. I mean the royals. Maybe they might slide into a nice third spot because i do like the moves that they made might take them two or three years to really get to that first or second spot. But i think that it's going to be kind of the white sox and twins running the show here a little bit in the al central. But we'll have to see again. We've got a little under a month until spring training and then soon enough we'll have opening day than soon enough. We'll have a lot of these answers figured out. Now i'm gonna just get into some other rumors that have been going around the baseball. You know around around the mlb and kind of touch on the different things that have been popping off and kind of going on with you know rumors of free agent signing here. Who's interested in who so on and so forth. The braves have have emerged as a leading candidate for real mutahi. I think that would be perfect for them. In all honesty it would replace marcelo zuma in some regards and then it would bring in some great defensive help behind the plate. It would definitely be a huge upgrade. From travis dr now who. He did have a really really good season in two thousand twenty but defensively. He's just so slow and he is one of the worst defensive catchers in baseball but he makes a forty with his bat. I will say though that a team like the braves are going to want to sign him for all the money that he that he wants right. I mean i think it's going to be kind of a bidding war between real or at least maybe the phillies a couple of other teams. But i think the real mutual is gonna wind up just re signing with the phillies. I think that again. Dave dombrowski being there is a huge reason. Why and i say this all the time because if you want to be around a winning team you need to surround yourself with a winning mindset winning mentality and that's what dombrowski has and he's got a track record to prove it one with this mindset in this mentality it might be intriguing real me too. I mean think about it. The guy's never been on a winning team. Really he played for the marlins and then he comes to philadelphia. And they're not that great. So i think that he wants to change and he wants to be on a contending team and i think that dombrowski if he can convince him to stay that could be huge for them this year and i think that if not oh well but the braves they could fall right into second place for real mutoko and they could be jumping for joy that he fell into their laps. I mean he would be a giant ad. And i would have to say that i would love to see have real mutual could go and play in every single team. I mean this would be his third different. Mls an l. s. team that he's played on if he winds up playing for the braves marlins phillies. We'll have to see. So that's one rumor. But then also another one again brad hand. He's still on the market. A lot of these guys are still in the market. And i'll touch on that. Why in a little bit during the competitive balance tax segment and why that is kind of an issue right now with a lot of these guys not wanting to sign or kind of waiting until the very last minute. But now brad hand he's emerged as a target for the angels and he could be again huge ad for them and this is a team that is in desperate need of pitching. They have made moves. Going out and getting joe muss grove. So they've quietly started to do the wise thing i think in and make those added needs in those added changes. I also will have to say that. Brad hand is also being sought. After by the blue jays. Buy the mets. So all teams that are very interested in rebuilding their bullpens especially the mets. I mean they've had a couple issues with the closing. I know that you know with the blue jays. If you go out and get brad hand. What are you going to do with kirby gates. That's the other problem right now. You have to closers unless you transition one of them to kind of set up guy. Maybe an eighth inning guy and you put gates as a as an eighth inning guy or something like that because if not it's going to be very very interesting to see what they're gonna do and like. I mentioned yates. He did sign with the blue jays. One year five and a half million dollar deal and then tyler chat would and He was signed also. So we'll have to see right. We'll have to see what's going to happen with the bullpen situation in toronto. I will say though. Yates have tossed a tough twenty twenty. So maybe they still want to go and get some kind of just extra baggage or at least just so some extra cushioning in case gates does not have a good season. You go and get brad hand. And he's there as kind of a. I don't wanna say backup if you will but another option at least to go to. But then again the mets they continue to keep their name in the news they have also been interested in getting kiki says former second baseman kind of utility guy for the dodgers. And it's very wise. I mean he's a utility guy you can stick them really anywhere. They need somebody at second base right now and i think that it would be very wise for them to put him over there. I mean the outfield's been pretty much figured out. You got it figured out over at short and i the catching position been figured out third and second i would say to places that they could maybe address but third base in. All honesty. could be really anybody right. I mean you've got michael conforto you've got jeff mcneil you've got. Jd davis dominic smith. Those four guys. They're all outfielder. But let's not forget. Jeff mcneil can playing the infield so if you move some guys around. You'd probably just be just fine. So i'm going to be curious to see if they land keith hernandez just out of sheer. Hey we need a guy just to fill the position. You're productive you. You're efficient and you can at least put the a bat on the ball and put it in place. so we're gonna just. They also need a second baseman. Let's face it robinson cano being suspended. The year did not help their case. So i think they definitely need to address that issue because if not it's going to be a little bit of juggling around and they've already have a lot of juggling around to right now with jerry porter being fired and them figuring out a new general manager so there's going to be a lot of things to get kind of sorted out before the season starts and we still have a lot of different free agents that have yet to sign obviously. Dj resigning george springer finally signing. Now we're waiting for guys like trevor bauer. Jt real mutoko marcelo zuma. Where are those guys going to land because those are some other huge names from this past season. That could really make a huge difference on a lot of different teams. But that'll do for us in this first segment folks but don't go anywhere because when i get back from the commercial break. I'll dive into the predictions. I have for the east this year. And who i think could make a huge impact in the division this year. Folks stay right there. We'll be right back here on the baseball podcast. Welcome back to the gmc baseball podcast. Jack right now with you all an inner first segment. I jumped right into sharing my thoughts on the recent free agency news. All the new moves really being made recently be sure to stay right here though with me folks for the final few minutes the show today as well dive into the by or deny it as to whether i buy or deny the fact. The dodgers might or could repeat as world series champions this season. But i wanna get into this prediction of the al east this year and what i could see unfolding within the division this year and who i think. Finish wear at the end of the year. Also because there's been some major ads across the board. I mean if you look at some of the guys that have been added and also re added if you will to these certain teams. It's pretty impressive. But then there's also been a lot of losses. Some teams have had to go through and had to endure because of trades free agency. And some i would say are more drastic of changes than others so some major ads across the board. I would say the blue jays. Obviously you get kirby gates. He's a i think that he can be capable of being one of the top closers. He shown it before. So i'm gonna put him there then. Obviously george springer for the blue jays as well. The anxious they resigned. Dj mayhew they go out and they signed corey kluber but then if you look at some of these. Other teams like the red sox. They're losing jackie bradley. Jr. to free agency unless they resign him the race. They've locked they've lost blake. Snell and charlie morton so they've lost two of their three main starters. I would say of their three man rotation that they really would throw in the playoffs between snell morton and tyler glass now so. That's a very thin of pitching lineup. If you if you tell me. And and i also have to say that the hitting kind of comes into question because they were one of the worst power hitting teams in baseball. I mean they produced very very little runs. And i think a lot of the reason why they were so good is because they had such great pitching their pitching was unbelievable and with a two of the three main reasons why they were so good. Pitching wise gone. It's going to be very interesting to see how the raise kind of pick up the pieces from this past year and kind of try and put something together the season and then the orioles. Obviously they lose. Jose iglesias they let renato newness walk and unions. I mean he was their leading home run hitter and he was one of the. I think he was second on their team. An rbi's bad it over to fifty. So yeah not a great average. But i mean a lot of power a lot of pop in his bat and a ton of offensive production. That's gone you don't have that anymore. But they do have a lot of young players and i'll get into that and a little bit but it's definitely going to be a different looking division this year. I don't have a whole lot of faith in the in the red sox. I think that you know coming off a tough year. They were twenty four and thirty six past year. Not great production from guys like benintendi jd. Martinez i've honestly heard a lot of things about benintendi that are not very flattering. Such as people feel that in their organization he starting to digress. A little bit. He's not improving as rapidly or at least improving at all at the point that he should be so. There's a fear that benintendi might be kind of a flop in that. He might not turn out to be anything that special. They had a great year from Zander bogarde's obviously and then you know with with Raphael denver's over at third. He started off so slow but then he picked it up towards the end of the year. I was just more Mostly disappointed in jd martinez. Because he's been one of the biggest power hitters in baseball the past couple of years. He came over and signed a massive deal. I remember when he went to the red sox i said home. And they're going to be really good and he put up thirty eight homers hundred twenty army. Put up some serious numbers but then obviously the red sox they do. Bring back chris sale. So they're going to try and slowly work back in shape. I actually read something somewhere where They were saying that. I guess the mets are going to be a little bit more aggressive with syndergaard and then the red sox are going to be a little bit. More careful with chris sale so going to be very intrigued to see how the two approaches for two pitchers and now i don't mean to cross over into the middle east but just kind of crossing over these two pitchers it's gonna be intriguing to see how the two different ways that they are handled by their respective ball clubs how that plays a factor in their production this year but also just their overall longevity in their career. Could this be something that syndergaard winds up really I think Coming up short or at least really not a benefiting from at all being thrown right back into it and used aggressively. I mean we've seen instances where guys like stephen strasburg for instance back a couple years ago he got thrown in the mix and they slowly worked him back into it. And i don't know if it's really done wonders for his career in the long run and so i wonder if syndergaard is going to be kind of the same way but then chris sale you know he might be able to stretch his career out even further than he might have been by slowly working back into it. So we're going to have to see but this again this division. It's a very very different division. This year i mean you don't have the red sox. I think that are going to be the clear front runner favorites and the yankees. They're always going to be up top. So i definitely think that that's not gonna change but in terms of where the rays are going to be and wear. The blue jays are going to be. I think that's going to be totally different. I think that's going to be completely switched. I think the blue jays could legitimately be a top tier team in that division. Top two team at least and when you think about that division across the board. It's very competitive. The yankees jason raise. They all had records above five hundred so they clearly came out very very strong last year and they were able to keep that up the orioles. They came out very strong as well. But then they kind of fizzled out towards the end. Surprise a lot of people. And i'm curious if they could really surprise people again this year. I mean they've got a lot of young talent. Although they let unions go you try trying. Keep hands are all burto around ryan mountcastle. You got some pieces that you can really build with. I'm very curious to see what they're pitching situation's going to be like this year and if they're going to be able to figure out anything along the lines that could really help them out because they're starting pitching kind of suffers i think and also their bullpen pitching so they need to address that first and foremost but then there's been a major ads again from other teams in the division. Obviously i mean. I know i mentioned curb gates and george springer and then corey kluber for the for the yankees and obviously gates in spring to the jays respectively. But michael wocka getting added for the raise. I don't know if that's a major ad. But he's an established guy. He's somebody that he's not going to obviously make up for what snell and morton are going to be bringing and he's not gonna. He's not going to fix that. He's not gonna patch that whole up. But i think that he could maybe have a decent year and it could be some reliable pitching that they get now. The orioles and red sox have been fairly quiet this offseason. They haven't really done anything crazy. But i will say what. The red sox and i forgot to mention earlier. But i'll mention it now. They had a nice emergence of christian vasquez last year. I was a big fan of him behind the plate. Bad a solid. I believe around two seventy to eighty had a fairly good year started off. Really hot actually was batting. Well over three hundred. So i think that that if they can develop him a little bit saner bogart's rafael devers. All have really good years. Jd martinez gets back to the to the standard that he should be at. They might be a better team than people think that they're going to be especially myself. I just benintendi. Just i think they need to get rid of him. I don't know why they still have him to the life of me. I compare him to kind of days. Be swanson but dance. Be swanson has taken such large leaps in comparison to benintendi in their careers. And i just think it's kind of sad because benintendi coming in was a highly sought a prospect. A lot of people really high up on him and he has just not panned out well at all for the red sox so i think that could also play a little bit of a detrimental fact. The red sox success this year but like i mentioned. I'm very skeptical of the race. I would say the raise the red sox i'm too. I'm very skeptical of. I'm very kind of weary of what they're going to do. Because for the raise. I just don't think the way that they went about last year is going to be a sustainable way of winning. Because you can't just keep winning game after game without having any power hitting. I think that they got very lucky. With being a sixty game season. Because i really do wonder and i really do question if they would've won the division if they would have had the year that they had last year if we had played one hundred and sixty two games. If you it's all right rolling the ball out there and we're playing one hundred sixty two games. I would question whether or not they could put up and continue with that level of play in that and that offensive and defensive pace the entire season right. I just don't see that happening. So i think they got kind lucky last year because the way that they went about it. It's just not a sustainable way of winning and having snow in morton gone that's gonna even drive down the point of that even more now. You really can't go to your pitching can't rely on heavily you're going to have to hope that randy arena man. Choi kevin cure meyer. Joey wendell these guys are going to be able to come up for them. And produce mike zeno. They went out and resigned. Magsino not sure how i feel about that. He kind of reminds me a little bit of a dr now a solid hitting catcher. That's not a outstay. Dr now's better hitting catcher then zunino is still a solid hitting catcher but a terrible defensive catcher and the guy slower than molasses behind the plate right. So i think that's gonna really play a a piece into that. But i really have my eyes on the jays. I obviously the yankees. Of course. I mean you've got lemay who you've got stanton. You've got judge torres your shelhah sanchez. Garrett cole now corey kluber the list just goes on. I mean look void. The list goes on. And on and on and on i don't know what to think of their bullpen. Quite yet and the depth of their pitching quite yet because yeah. They've got chapman coming out of the pen shore. But who else do you have coming out of the pen. Right after cole. And kluber how big of a drop off is going to be. I think it's going to be another year of them really heavily relying on that hitting and sure they've got a lotta heading so it can be spread out over a longer. You know it. Can it can spread out through an entire lineup. But look at why. The dodgers i think were so successful last year because everything they did hitting wise at such a high level. They did the exact same pitching wise. They were getting into it a little bit. Because i'm actually going to reference the dodgers a little bit later in the show and get into the different rankings. That they were in the league. That's why they were so good. Because the pitching was the big difference the yankees. They need to have extra pitching they need to have deeper pitching to be able to make these runs deep in the playoffs and be able to get over the hump of playing against a team like the raise right. Because i think that was the biggest thing was even though the raise. They didn't necessarily smack the yankees. It was it was just enough to get by. It was just enough to get by. And so that's why. I think you know they need to really just go after hardcore more pitching maybe they can pick up a guy like jayco tarizi. I mean he would be talking about a great little three man starting rotation right there. You've got coal you've got kluber got odorized. You've got three guys. They're all stars. They can definitely play at high levels. They could be really really good. I think again. I'm not. I probably would not have been as as confident in them. Honestly if they hadn't signed digi lemay that was a big tipping point for me. I think that getting him back again kluber. I have to be a little bit careful with how i talk about that because kluber. We don't really know what to expect from him. I mean he's really been out of baseball. The last two years only had i believe eight starts in the last two seasons now from two thousand fourteen in two thousand eighteen. He was one of the best pitchers in baseball every single year except for one he had eighteen or more wins. He was a two time. Cy young winner in that span of time. He was a three time all star. The guy can definitely pitch but is just does he have that same juice in that same level of pitching that he had it between two thousand fourteen and twenty eighteen now post injuries after the fact that he's had some shoulder problems from arm issues. That is not an injury that is going to be pleasant or forgiving for a pitcher in the long run at all. I just think that they need to figure out a little bit more pitching in the case that kluber gets injured again. Or he's not panning out. And then in that case. Then you really just putting all of the load on garrett cole and you can't do that the guy can only do so much sure. He's a great pitcher. But i think the reason why he was so good in houston was because there was other good pitchers there. There was just in berlin. Or zach. frankie. Lance mccullers was even pretty decent. Charlie morton was even pretty good then. So you had other guys that they could go to that. It wasn't just garrett cole so then other teams were kind of guessing all right and they couldn't keep track of everybody now. It's very easy. Okay we can send all of our attention on garrett cole when we're doing our scouting reports and we're looking at her opponent and we don't really have to worry about anybody else in the rotation is three game series. We're going to just be able to if we can get through coal that we can get through anybody. That's kind of the mentality. I think some of these teams in this division are going to have. But i mentioned in the first segment and i'll mention it again. This blue jays team with the youth that they have and then the additions that they made. I think that they could be a second place. Team i really do. And i that might be an aggressive or a bowl take kind of a a little bit going out on a limb here with just one big move that they made but they haven't even come close to that competitive balanced tax yet. I mean they're still way under it so they could go out and sign somebody else and not to mention. I mean look they they offered. Dj lemay a four year. Seventy some million dollar deal so they got no problem offering guys money right. I think that if they can get a guy like brad hand or if they can get a guy like jayco tarizi some other pitching. Maybe get somebody at second base shortstop or a third base. You know maybe they can get a justin turner who knows. I mean justin turner. This is how. I would probably go about trying to do this. You already have. Robbie ray who's gonna probably be an alright kind of alternate starter. Somebody that can you can kinda just go to in a third game of a three-game series high engine review is going to be your as you go on and get jayco taurasi. Sign them for like a three year. Deal you don't have to pay a whole bunch of money. I think that you could if he tries to argue for a ton of money. You could say no thanks. You're not worth that much money. Then you can go out and get a guy like brad hand then you may be signed him for a smaller deal so if you could get odorized on a three year deal get hand on a two year deal. Yeah you're kind of shrinking the window that you have for yourself to win but at the same time you're also solidifying that you're going to be set in set in different sectors of your team. Bullpen wise brad. Hand coming out of the pen. He's going to be really good. And then you've got curb gates there as well who could be as kind of a top tier setup guy. Then you've got in the rotation. Jayco to risa. You've got robbie ray and high engine reu- and then all of a sudden you've got a ton of hitters all over the place that can really do damage at any point of the lineup. Now you've got a totally different ball team. You got a completely different set up of guys. And i think that's going to really pay off for the for the blue jays in the In the long run and again the only thing that kind of concerns me about the blue jays in the same thing with the yankees just health. Really just everybody's health everybody's safety obviously with kovic still probably going to be going on in the summertime but then also just injury wise right. I mean who knows how much time these guys are gonna get for spring training. They come in. They're playing a full hundred and sixty two game season. How ready are they going to be. How often are cancellations going to be. If that's a factor could that throw teams off. Could that teams back could that kind of throw guys out of whack a little bit and really three guys off of a rhythm a little bit. We'll have to sleep. We can only we can only wait and see until now right so my prediction of this division is gonna go something like this. This is how i kind of see it playing out. I think the yankees are going to win. I think the yankees are gonna win the division. This year. I think that they're hungry. They've gone on and made some moves resigned. Dj lemay you so. I think that they are feeling very confident. And set that they can really make a push for the al division or at least ale east division and not to mention you go out and you get again some great hitters but reliable pitching us. Well now i'm gonna go with the blue jays coming in second place because of again. The recent ads that they had some of the best hitting in the outfield arguably the best hitting outfield in the al. In my opinion then you go down to three four five. This is how i'm going to go with it. I'm going to put the red sox at three. I think that the red sox are a two years away to getting back to where they were. I think it's gonna take sale a little bit of time to get back to his normal rhythm. It's going to depend on. If guys like denver's and bogart's martinez can step up this year and really play well and also how are they gonna fix that centerfield hole that they have right now with j. b. j. Not there anymore. So i think it's two years down the road. Maybe three until the red sox are back to where they were. But i'm going to put them at third. I'm going to put the raise at fourth. Because i think that they lost the most out of this entire division. They lost a big chunk of their pitching rotation. They don't have that much power hitting to even begin with so it's not like they're returning a bunch of guys that are going to have huge years. I mean the most of the guys that they have on their team i would say kind of slap hitters except for maybe g. man choi randy arroz arena kevin. Kerr maybe here and there but joan wendell he's just like a solid singles guy. This is going to get on base for you. Same manual margot. I know they re signed a lot of guys so they all had to you know obviously avoid arbitration but at the same time. It's not like you went out and got any major major pieces. I think that those still be good. But it's going to be a struggle. So i'm gonna put them at fourth fifth though obviously the orioles. I just don't think this is going to be the orioles year right. I think that we can all agree. This orioles team has probably four years down the road from being really really good. You know if they can get guys like ryan mountcastle atlay rush man. He's up and coming catcher actually one of the best catcher in the mlb line hanser burto. All of these guys can really continue to perform and continue develop. Obviously losing nunez. That's a huge huge guy that you're going to have to replace because again he was one of your leading. Rbi guys and then he'd lead your team at home runs last year. It was one of the few guys even have double digit home runs. So they're going to have to really figure that out. I think but it's going to be an interesting season nonetheless in the al east. I'm really excited to see how it pans out. Because the blue jays or the must watch team i think in that division. I'm very curious to see kiosk. Hernandez have the same year he had last year. Was that just a fluke was yards. Correal's you're kind of a fluke. That's another thing that people might be asking. Why were they just beneficiaries of shortened. Mlb season was that kind of a one year. Wonder in kind of thing. But i really don't think so because i mean hernandez has got such a nice swing you know. He's got a tall frame. He's he's got a lot of power a lot of strengthen his bat. Same thing with jerry. L. he's got a lot of power and his bat to but you've got guys like boba shed. And then. how can we forget about vlad junior right vlad junior. I don't even think he's even had close to what the expectation has been set for him not even close to it so i think that he's still getting better. He's still improving. He's still on his uprise in the mlb. Same thing with kevin bijou. So they've got a lot of things to figure. I'm very curious about this alias. And how things will shake out but folks that's going to close out here for us in our second segment on the gmc baseball podcast. Thanks again for tuning in coming up after the commercial break all discuss the worrisome teams have about the collective bargaining tax or excuse me the competitive competitive balance tax and how the raising of the payroll in baseball helps and hurts them teams. And i'll really just get into a little finance segment. If you will in the mo beat it's been a lot of fun so far folks but we got a lot more to go so don't change that channel ladies and gentleman we'll be right back here on the gmc baseball podcast. Welcome back to the gmc baseball podcast. Great to have you all here still with me today jack right now again. And in the previous segment. I jumped into discussing a little prediction of the and how i see these new pieces that have been added working out in the long run for some of these teams. But i want to now switch gears and get into discussing the issues and problems that could arise for teams with the competitive balance tax rising and the overall kind of payroll number also going up and just kind of all sorts of little financial things that have been going on also like my thoughts on if baseball should have a salary cap and if so what it should be how it should be regulated so on and so forth. So we're just gonna get into a little bit of unpacking of the finances of the mlb especially recently so basically just to kind of give everybody. What the competitive balance tax is. It's basically kind of a threshold where teens that might exceed a certain amount of money on a yearly basis. If they go over that then they have to pay a certain amount of tax. The tax is based on. I believe it's every dollar that they spend over that limit. That is what they are taxed on so this year the competitive balance tax. I believe it set. The threshold is set at two hundred and ten million dollars so if a team exceeds that in their spending and when they go out and buy or not buy guys but signed guys and you know get guys contracts this that and the other then if they go over that limit then they have to start paying tax on that so. This is a huge part. I think as to why a lot of free agents haven't signed yet because some of these guys they want a huge amount of money right and they want a lot of money that could possibly really. I think strap a lot of teams financially to go out and do any other kind of spending right. I mean guys like jt room mutoko. Trevor bauer they have expressed that they want two hundred million dollar contracts. That would give a team that okay. Yeah they are probably teams out there. That could afford that teams like the dodgers the yankees or the mets but then that kind of limits where they can go. After the fact they can't really go out and spend anything else. It's kind of like all right. We're either going all in. We're getting this one guy and we're hoping that he off in the end because if not we're not going to be able to really go out and get any other pieces this offseason and we're going to have to just wait until next year to maybe be able to do that so i think that the competitive balance tax is a very very wise thing because in all honesty if there wasn't any sort of ceiling or any sort of limit teams would just spend however much money they want however much money they have and that's why you get into these kinds of which teams have larger payrolls which teams owners are willing to spend more money. That's what it boils down to is. Which owner is going to spend the larger sum of money and i think that if you know teams like for example the yankees or the astros or the cubs if they go over it probably again something that they don't want to have to do but it's not as bad as if a team like the cardinals or the brewers or even the rockies. If they went over it would probably be very detrimental minor. They probably wouldn't even touch it at that point but the yankees astros and cubs all had to pay that competitive balance tax in twenty twenty all exceeded. The amount and the amount has gone up. I believe from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty. It has increased ever so slightly each and every single year. I will say this year. I don't see any three of those teams hitting the mark. I mean we all know. The cubs are rebuilding already have started to see that you darvish being traded schwaiger being released. And before you know it. They'll probably going to trade. Chris brian along the way somewhere along the lines. I would think anthony rizzo. He's going to be a free agent soon enough. Havi bias of a free agent soon enough. So they're going to be really loosening up their payroll lot here very very soon. The astros. they've let some guys go off their payroll. George springer in particular and the yankees. They didn't really go out. And splurge i would say. I think lemay mayhew on a six year. Ninety million dollar deal was very fair. I think that the time and kind of the amount of years. It's a little bit long in my opinion especially with just how much you don't really know of what his career is going to look like in five years from now four years from now he's really only an injury away and not great recovery to being say on the very very tail end and kind of washed up if you will in his career. Because he's getting newest mid thirties now. There are cases where guys can extend that further on in their career. I don't know if you do that. But at the end of the day. I think that all three of the nominee teams i think are going to even come close that maybe the mets but because of the overall just financial losses because of the pandemic. I don't see many teams even coming close to the to the tax now the tax has been around since one thousand nine hundred seven and i think that honestly in all honesty. I'm very curious kind of again. I probably have to do a little bit more background research on this but what baseball spending was like prior to the tax. I mean we're team spending an astronomical amount of money back then but at the same time i mean we have to go back into the seventies and the eighties. Even the sixties money was not the the value that it is nowadays so who knows what kind of taxes or if there was even any sort of taxes back then and what teams were spending in comparison to today probably light years of a difference in the money that is being spent now versus the money that was spent back then and they've started. I think you know to realize at least some teams that it really makes no sense especially nowadays with the expanding of the playoffs and this that and the other why go out and spend an astronomical amount of money to try and build some sort of super team to then potentially get hit with a tax and have to pay back a lot of money that they spent. That's a lot of. I think financial headache. If you ask me. I mean what's the difference if you make the division championship or you get to the playoffs or you make the wild card with eight wins. Versus ninety two doesn't really make that big of a difference. So why would they have to go out and spend an exuberant amount of money to try and push up. Four more wins six more wins or ten more wins if eighty eight wins or ninety windsor. Ninety one wins is going to do it. Then that i think can allow teams to still have a lot of money to play around with so if they want to go into the season non of spending a whole bunch in the offseason then as the season goes on you approach the trade deadline. Then you can say all right. I might want to go out and spend a little bit more money and you have that money to spend. It's interesting to see and really here. How important also this taxes for some teams to stay under because if they exceeded over and over again they're going to be in the hole and that's not a great thing to have especially the owners. They don't want to have to deal with that. They don't want to have that potential of oh man. I'm having to pay a lot more in taxes than i am paying my players. That's kind of an issue. So that's kind of of a little bit of a background on the competitive balance tax. Now a couple of thoughts that i have about an in kind of you know what i think of the overall finances of baseball in general. Yeah there should be a salary cap in baseball. I'm not gonna lie to you. I think that there should be a salary cap in baseball. Because it's going to would it encourages and what it's continuing to encourage. Is this idea of top heavy baseball. And what i mean by this is all the teams that you can probably guess just based on the size of the market that they're in l. a. New york chicago all these teams houston. Even i mean well. Miami is a little bit of an exception but in other sports. Probably miami You know again. L. a. new york chicago and miami. I would say the four bigger ones. You know you could probably throw in teams like dc or houston like. I mentioned whatever they can go out and spend way more money because they just have a larger payroll. They're in a larger market. They can make a lot more money. And as a result it kind of makes only those teams good and it really centralize is the amount of teams that are going to be on the top of baseball. And it's just a very narrow group and then after that there's this huge drop off in it's kind of okay which other run of the mill team is going to kind of come out of nowhere and maybe surprise us but there should be a salary cap and other sports they have it and i think it allows for the competitive balance to be very very even a kind of the playing field a little bit. They're a lot more than i think it does in baseball. I mean look at some of these teams like the dodgers the yankees the guys that they have on their team. And it's like how are you affording especially with the the price. Baseball comes with how much money some of these guys want. In my opinion. i think. Sometimes it's way too much money but you got stanton you've got judge you've got coal. Those are three huge big time players that are on jain enormous contracts. And it's kind of like a team like the nationals. They could probably pay. Maybe one or two those guys. I mean they are paying their own guys a certain amount of money but a team like the cardinals or a team like the rockies or the mariners or the athletics. the parades. They couldn't afford all of those guys on the same team. There's just no way especially with the money that they want. And i think that having these bigger teams in these larger markets being kind of the top of baseball and then everybody else kind of subservient to them. I think that is what i in times or at certain points kind of money the water of baseball and really waters down the talent and kind of the overall reception that some of these teams can get. Because all you're seeing is the dodgers the yankees the cubs. That's all you're really seeing the mets the not even the angels in some regards teams like the padres. Now i feel like are going to start changing that mold teams like the white sox may be. They're starting to switch things up a little bit. And so as a result you can kind of play around a little bit more and expand the pool of top tier teams in the league and again at times. It's going to be very obvious to guess who's going to be at the top of baseball and who's going to be the best ones and who's going to be the best players in the end of these taxes aren't put in place teams will be able to just run wild financial and they'll be able to do whatever they want whenever they want pay whomever however much they want and i just have a problem with that because look at it again i might be biased in some regards because i do root for a team that is a mid market like the brewers but if you just look at the overall landscape of baseball and you look at the teams that have been at the top over the last few years oh boston how could i forget boston. The teams over the past few years that have gone to the world series and that have gone far in the playoffs. Nine times out of ten. You're going to see a team either from la. Houston boston or new york. In those kinds of situations. You've had some exceptions to the rule. The brewers in two thousand eighteen the raise this past year. You have some exceptions to the rule. But you don't have many teams that i would say are shaking up the entire landscape of baseball and saying yeah we're gonna steal this world series away from you. I mean the the winners of the world series. I would say since twenty sixteen. Have all come from large markets really. That's that's really what it's been large markets you've got houston you've got chicago you've got boston. You've got la now you also do have in two thousand fifteen. You had a mid market team like the royals. That's i feel like when baseball starts to branch out and you can start to say okay. There are other good teams in the league. That can afford good players now. I also think that in all honesty. I think that just how kind of baseball works. In a general scheme of things if they can continue to try and broaden out and branch out and have more teams can kind of break that mold of okay all the mid major or all the mid market teams. They can't really do a whole lot. So teams like the royals teams. Like the brewers who are able to make that difference now again getting back to the original point. The royals in the brewers won't the royals more. So i think that they got a little lucky in a lot of these mid market teams. I think they get lucky. They get guys on a lower amount of money not these huge contracts and they wind up becoming really good players and the probably you have with that is they. Don't want to stay. They want to leave. They want to move look francisco indoor perfect example right mid market team. I would say cleveland amid market team. It's not a jain norma's fan pool. I would say it's not a huge market. They're not a huge Jain normal i would say i mean they are populated area. But it's not like new york or la and new york. Same thing with garrett cole. Gary coleman from pittsburgh to houston and then where did he go new york say. Mookie betts. he went from boston l. A. went from one extreme to the other. But it's still the same thing you're not going to get many guys that are going to want to veer off the path that they're on and trying to get a lot of this money now again george springer though. This is a very interesting case. Because i don't think of as a toronto as a huge market. I don't think of them as a major major market. I think that maybe in terms of again they're in a different country. So i don't know really. What kind of reception. There is to baseball overall. But i would say that they are a mid market team. This very odd kind of exception to the rule right where a guy from houston is leaving to go to a team in toronto. now they did pay image. I normally amount of money and he did sign the only nine figure deal so far this offseason so there is an exception to the rule at times. Obviously there's going to be. But i think that it just gets old seeing these same teams over and over again being really really good now. Obviously you can't really do anything if you're a team like the pirates owner just doesn't want to spend money. There are exceptions again to the rule that teams like the razor teams like the athletics. Two teams that. I would say have kind of been in the centerfold of and really the examples to lead by of teams that can still win with low payrolls. Many of them san diego i think is starting to become a little bit of a larger market because of the guys they've gone out and gotten probably also the team that they've started to build. I mean you've got any machado you've got blake's now you've got you darvish. You've got a lot of guys that you're gonna be paying a lot of money for and so i think that they're starting to also break the mold but it's going to take a little bit of time i think until there's even any sort of balancing out or just leveling of the playing field in a broader sense. I mean even teams like san francisco right. That's another pretty large market anywhere on this. I would say the coasts that you know for the most part they're going to be your larger markets. Atlanta might be a little bit of an exception. I it's a. It's a middle of the road market. I mean i wouldn't say that it's a middle market or a low market or a high. Mark is probably a an middle market team. Right on the cusp of being a large market. But they're not quite there yet. But i would like to see as time goes on a little bit of a change in this right. I would like to see teams. That are able to build successful franchises. Winning these huge free agents over and saying hey come play with us. Hey i want you to over in our team. Hey why don't you come and sign the strenuous deal with us and you start to see okay now. These other big time players. You know george springer. He might be a pioneer in this if you think about it. Maybe we'll see a guy like marcello zona go to a team that nobody really expects because it's like hey you know what he's going to toronto. He left houston. I don't wanna go back to atlanta. I want to kind of broaden out. Go another team. That's going to be competitive. Maybe he'll go to chicago from play for the white sox. Maybe he'll go to houston again. Those aren't really huge differences from atlanta. But it's going to branch out the teams that are going to be good and it's not going to be the same teams over and over again and other sports. You do have that same problem right. You have teams like in the nba for the most part. A lot of the west coast teams are going to be really good. And then you've got a couple of top tier east coast teams but after that it falls off drastically and i just think overall in sports especially baseball. Because i think that's where it's going to start because these guys get paid the most amount of money out of any professional athlete in my opinion the contracts that they have signed. I mean there is no other. Okay four patrick. Mahomes patrick mahomes as an exception to the rule being signed to a half a billion dollar contract but the amount of close to half a billion dollar contracts there are in the mlb right now or at least over two hundred and fifty three hundred. Three hundred and fifty million dollar deals probably a lot more than there are in the nfl. The nhl might rival in the nba. Here and there. I guess but for the most part. Mlb guys i would say across the board. They get paid to them most. And so it would be nice to see a guy from the red sox go to a team. Like the brewers or a guy from the yankees go to a team like the rockies or guy from the giants going and playing for the diamondbacks something like that and just switching kind of the pool of play and kind of just changing the trajectory in just kind of changing things up a little bit. You know switching of scenery almost but will that happen. I don't know because at the end of the day guys are going to want the most amount of money they're gonna want the money that they deserve and these teams until there is a payroll put into place or at least salary cap. They're going to spend however much money that they wanted that they can to get these players but again with this competitive balance tax. I think it's great that it's in place because it does at some point limit. The amount of spending team can do or at least have a bit of a consequence if you will if you're going to go out and spend x y and z all the time. You're not going to be able to do that. So hopefully as time goes on. We'll see a little bit of a broadening of the pool of players. But i don't really see at anytime soon. I think that it's just going to be you know another year of kind of the same teams being really good. But hey with these recent signings and with these recent moves we might start seeing other teams that are going to shake things. And we're not going to see the red sox and the yankees and the dodgers or the cubs we're gonna start seeing maybe teams like the padres of the white sox. The blue jays little bit of a change of scenery which i'm very excited for and honestly i think it's going to just be refreshing to see some new teams win in in any sort of situation whether it's in the regular season the play-offs whatever it's just to be nice to see again a little bit of a change of scenery so that'll do it for this segment folks. Thanks again for sticking around. Stay right there though. Because we'll be right back after this commercial break for the final segment today where i'll be back in another by it or denied segment discussing whether or not. I buy or denied the idea that the dodgers could potentially repeat as world series champions. This year folks don't go anywhere everyone because we've got one last segment here on the gmc baseball podcast. Hey everyone and welcome back for the final segment here on the gmc baseball podcast. Jack right now we're still with you in the previous segment. I discussed what the competitive balance taxes and the various aspects. Come with it and why this is a unique year for some teams who go after certain players because of the increase in the amount and other things that. Come with it really. I wanna wrap up today though with another bite or denied and just drive right or dive right into. I should say and discuss whether i buy or deny the idea of the dodgers repeating the world series this year now histories. Not really on their side. I would say the last time that a team has repeated a world series was the yankees in one thousand nine hundred nine and then in two thousand but since then no other team has done it since then so again. That's been twenty years so maybe they can break that mold. But i just don't know if they're going to be able to do that. It's so hard in sports repeating championships. Right i mean you talk about some of the greatest teams ever for case in point the new the new york yankees when they were winning world series after world series after world series. That's a challenging thing to do to be at the top of your game year in and year out and to completely and utterly just give your all your entire blood sweat and tears into something a collective goal on a team and go out and win a championship to that. It's very difficult. It's very very difficult to do that. And i think that as a result it's probably very challenging especially in the mlb and in baseball and you have one hundred and sixty two games to get through initially and then you have probably another probably would say if you're going to the world series twenty twenty or so so you're playing almost two hundred games in a season and then you're doing that again. The next year and winning again you have to either have absolute studs on your team or you just have to have a lot of really really good luck now. I will say though. I will say they've been to the world series consistently over the last few years they've gone to the world series three of the last four years. They want it this past year. Obviously and they had a tough time. Just getting out of Any sort of the world's getting out of the world series and winning earlier before lost the astros lost to the red sox then they lose the nationals in the playoffs then they finally win the world series so different stuff has gone on for the dodgers in the last couple of years. And they've kind of been the bridesmaid but never the bride if you will. And i think that that's definitely played a little bit of a part in their desire to finally win a world series but my question is are they going to become complacent and say okay. We did it. we're done. let's just take a seat back and just relax. We have finally check that off our list. Could they come back hungrier than ever this year. Maybe maybe not. I wouldn't say they're losing anyone drastic. I mean kiki hernandez he's a free agent justin turner. He's a free agent. You re signed training. I justin turner though i'm going to say. He is a huge part of this team. I know that he's not somebody. Like cody bellinger. And that's the other thing. They still won a world. Series and cody. Bellinger had a terrible season last year. They still have cody. Bellinger jock peterson. Max muncie cory seager You know Chris taylor clayton kershaw. Kenley jansen will. Smith i think is on the on the rise of becoming a really really really good catcher so losing justin turner is a big thing because he was the kind of heart and soul of this. Mookie betts. how could i forget about mookie. Betts justin turner is the heart and soul of this team overall. I mean he was the heartbeat. I mean even. Mookie betts said i think cody bellinger said it to turner was kind of the centerpiece to this entire team this past year and really why they were able to go all the way because of his leadership because of the veteran nist that he brings to the table and i just feel like if he's gone they're not going to really have that to go to. They're not going to really have that mentality to kind of i would say bounce off of or at least push them into a winning direction. Obviously of mookie betts. Who's now won two world series. Everybody is now experienced in winning a world series. So i think that is a very good thing. I think that in some weird way. I don't know why. I'm drawing this correlation but justin turner might have been a vehicle or kind of a catalyst for this dodgers team to finally get over that hump to win a world series. And then it's like okay. We got what we wanted. You got what you wanted. And now we're gonna just partways because these guys they're ready they know what it takes now. They've had that experience. They've had that taste in their mouth of wanting to win a world series and now they can go back out and do it but we thank you for getting us there. Because you're the reason why we were there and we'll never forget that. I could see that being a reason. Justin turner goes because this dodgers team might say hey. We've got a lot of young guys. They've been there they've done that. We have experienced mukhi beds. He's also one with another team. So now you're thinking okay. We really need justin turner. Do we really need a sign him to another deal. He's thirty six thirty seven. He's going to get older he's not going to be getting. I would say any better. At least i mean he did have a really good year in twenty twenty. I will give him that. He had a great season in twenty twenty especially being the age that he is. But i just think that in all honesty to get back to that level. It's going to take a lot. I know that they might get david price back. But who knows if that's going to happen. I mean david price sat out this past year because of the virus and who knows what the virus holds this summer and what the feature is with that. Maybe he says yeah. I'm going to just keep on sitting out. I'm not gonna go back out to that. Knows surrey not gonna do that. Who knows what he'll do. Who knows what he'll decide. Because i think that's going to be another kind of telling sign of our eight does does david price wanna come back. If not then we're going to have to really scramble around but they won the one year that he wasn't there so now this would this would have been his first year with the dodgers so i don't know if he would have had that big of an impact or if he could have possibly hindered the team in some way but i think that he still is going to be a huge difference maker and let's not forget this. This dodgers team. They almost didn't make it right. They were down. Three one of the braves were able to buckle down and they came up with a huge huge comeback in the nfc s. But i don't know if they can do it again this year. Right i mean. That's so i mean i'll put it this way. If they go down if they make it to the same point that they were in last year and they go as far as they did and they find themselves in a similar situation. I would say on one side that i could see them coming back and winning but i could say on another side. I could not see them coming back and winning. I could see them saying you know. Maybe they're just too exhausted or it's just too challenging to do that year in year out being in that three one deficit facing elimination game after game. Four straight games and not to mention facing elimination and other rounds. So it's a lot for teeth for guys to bear not only physically but mentally emotionally just having that utter and complete focus every single day knowing that you could be going home at any point in time. That's gotta take a toll on your on your mental psyche. Just being focused for the game but it could also help you out of keep you even sharper and much more dialed in than usual now. The team though i would say overall they are not going to be losing any major pieces. And that's a good thing. Because five of their nine starters as pastor an eight hundred or higher ups and not to mention cody. Bellinger wasn't even one of those guys so if you throw him in there and say okay. He's going to have a much better year this year. It could swing them right back up into a huge uptick and they could be honestly the favorite to win it again now. They've also they also had five guys with twelve or more home runs on the in their lineup and then out of those five guys. Four of them tossed in thirty plus rbi. So that's when you know you've got a really scary lineup. When you've got guys that are not only putting up. Huge homerun numbers in a small content season but also huge. Rbi numbers and it's multiple guys on the team. Not just one and not to mention. The starting pitching was sensational. Every single star. That started eight or more games. This year had under a four. Your a each. Everybody was between two and three. Era so that aspect. Right there. i think is going to be a huge separating factor for them because whatever they did hitting wise. I was great. They counterbalanced great pitching. They were great in both categories. And i think that was what kind of push them over the edge if you will but we have to remember what other teams have made some big acquisitions and i think this is going and this is going to be my main point is there's just been so much talent that is dispersed amongst the league. And now you have a again. I talked about in the last segment. The talent pool is spread out amongst so many different teams the padres in their own division with the dodgers. They go onto blake's now that go and get you darvish. Then you've got the nationals. They get john lester. Josh bell kyle shore over the mets have francisco lindores mccann. Carlos carrasco the white sox. Although they're in a different league they could run into each other in the world series. Who knows lance. Lynn liam hendriks. The blue jays gets springer. they get yates. So a lot of these teams have gone out and made some huge moves and the dodgers haven't done that. The dodgers have not done anything. They have been very quiet all offseason long. I don't know if they're waiting for an opportune time or whatever they might be doing. But all these other teams have made needed. And i think advisable adjustments and additions to their rosters that is going to ultimately put them into a totally different category than they were last year. I mean think about it. The padres were really good last year. And we talked about them in very high regard but now coming into this year after the acquisitions that they have and have had have gotten the past few weeks. Oh my gosh. It's going to be a completely different conversation. Same thing with the nationals right. I mean you've got not to mention this and the other thing. These teams went out and got added pieces for already solid foundation. If you think about look at who the nationals had before they went and got schwab before they went out and got lesser before they went out and got josh bell. They had trai turner one. Soto stephen strasburg. Max scherzer patrick corbin. Now they've got other pieces that are going to just build off of that. Then you've got the padres. I mean it's a grocery list of guys at the that the padres have got manny. Machado you've got will myers you got trent grisham fernando tatis vs austin nola. Now you go out and you get some insane. Pitching with blake snell darvish. You've got mike levin coming back in about a year or so whenever he gets off. Tommy john so these teams have made added adjustments and needed adjustments. And i don't think that the dodgers have necessarily counteracted and kind of made any sort of counter moves towards doing that now again. There are a lot of guys that are still out on the market. You've got guys like trevor bauer. Who has recently been linked to the dodgers and. I'm sure that they probably are thinking of the competitive balance tax and saying we'll do we want to spend more. Do we want to spend less or are we going to go over. We go under what's going to happen. Do we just go all in and get trevor bauer. We're gonna add into this already sick rotation we've got a lot of really great players. We might be set. We might be just ready to rock and roll. So i really don't know what's going to happen in all honesty because there's just been so much spreading out of talent they also have zona rio mutoko. Where are these other guys gonna go. They might not even go and play for the dodgers or the yankees or these major market teams. They might resign with other teams. Real mutant might stay in philly zona. He could be on a team like the blue jays. I really could see him on the blue jays because they need a d. age. They would probably have no problem. You know sticking him in the h. You'd have grischuk coming off the bench. You've got you've got springer got hernandez vlad junior can play first or third. I mean the guy apparently lost a lot of weight. He really took care of his body in the offseason. And he's back to his full form again and so going on and getting a d. h. Like osuna just gonna be just added heading. It's going to be extra batting. It's going to be extra offense now looking at some of the numbers that the the dodgers had in comparison to other teams and in comparison to their fellow opponents. They first in the league in home runs second. Rbi's they were first and runs second. And ps i and slugging first and era. I and wins first and whip i in batting average against and first innings pitched so right there i just gave you a jain normal list of all sorts of things that they fell in either the first or second category not to mention they fell in the top five or the top ten and numerous others. So they'd clearly dominated last year but again there's been other teams that have built onto their really strong nucleus strong kind of center cores of their team. And i just don't know if the dodgers have done. The necessary moves to counterbalance that i mean. Just looking at the padres right now. In their division the potters have addressed what they needed to address. They have plenty of hitting and the reason why they probably were thinking. Hey we can't keep up with the dodgers. it's we don't have the pitching you go out and get snow in darvish. Now you're completely in the ball game. You're right back in it. And i think that the padres dodgers hitting in my opinion. It could go toe to toe with each other. Their lineups are very comparable. And they're not that different from each other. The difference is the pitching that is the major major separating factor and they went out and address that issue and a lot of other teams. You look at some of these teams. That went out and just got straight pitching. It probably was to be in mind of hey teams like the dodgers the astros you know the red sox. The yankee's not really the red sox beat the yankees. They've got some heavy lineups. They've got some really really heavy lineups. We have to counterbalance that in some way. Let's go on and get some pitching. And i think that it was wise for the padres. Do what they did. The white sox get lance lynn and liam hendriks so. I think that this is going to be a very very interesting season now. Back to the original question. Do i buy or deny the idea that the dodgers are going to the world series and going to repeat. I'm gonna completely deny this. I do not think it's going to happen. I could not see it happening ultimately. I just don't think that they'll be able to have not only the stamina to go all the way again. I mean again. This was only sixty games last year. So and they probably again probably played eight hundred eighty two so they really only played technically half of a full season they only really made it to technically the all star break so who knows what would have happened in the second half of the season. We've seen so many second half collapses. I always go to this point. The pittsburgh pirates they were i believe tied or in second place for the nfl. Central twenty thousand nine or two thousand eighteen and then they wound up going. I believe four and thirty two in their first thirty six games after the all star break and then they went from about second to just completely dead last so teams do have second half collapses and who knows if that would have been the case for the dodgers if it was a full season and so i really question that you know this might have been a year that they kind of got away with and they kinda stole one if you will because and they took advantage of the shortened season and they said hey. Let's just go all out. It's sixty games you know. That's a fraction of what we normally play. And then we go to the playoffs and the world series. And we're gonna go all the way so again ultimately. I don't see them repeating. I'm going to deny the claim. I think it's going to be somebody else. Could i see them. Maybe getting back to the same place. You know world series. Yeah i could maybe see that. I don't see them winning it. Though i just i have no faith in that. I really do think that it's going to be another team. That's going to give them a big run for their money. And i think one of those teams might be a team. That's in their division like the padres. It's going to be very interesting this year. I'm really really excited for this upcoming. Mlb season but folks. That's going to wrap it up for us here today as always really appreciate you all listening to the gmc baseball. Podcast brought to you by the gmc podcast network. I would like to ask that you. Please remember to subscribe to the show and write a nice review. That really helps us. Also if you can please follow us on facebook twitter and instagram. We also really appreciate that as always everyone thinks so much for listening and have a fantastic day.

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 884  Springer to TOR; Top 10 SPs

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 884 Springer to TOR; Top 10 SPs

"Nasa eight eighty four the sleeper and the bust. It is thursday tuesday thursday thursday. I completely forgot. I really did. Keep it in january. Twenty first ivanhoe's pause for and i'm joined by justin mason justin. Good morning sir. Good morning to you. I thought i'd be the one a little absent minded sitting in is currently forty one degrees in my office. I really had no idea. I really like i don't know day is completely forgot. You overwhelmed by the amount of moves that have happened correct and and the rumor that you just informed me of that. I didn't even know about that. Perhaps the braves may get in on. Jt realmuto so i completely forgot the day like a giant idiot Yeah we have some loose talk about including like an interesting little saga with one of the players. And they'll get starting pitchers. I don't know how many ed because we do have a hard stop so we'll have to determine based on how the transactions go. let's dive right in then and talk about george springer. He lands and he lands with toronto which was heavily rumored. It seemed down to toronto new york. He wanted to be nearish connecticut his hometown as on state rather and so those teams made sense to team center. Contending the jays land him and then what it looked like was they landed. Michael brantley right after that. That is not just springer. we'll get brantley in a moment but that was really interesting. How it looked like they'd gotten both but getting just even just springer is a big move for them. He moves the top of their. There was concern. Like oh you know. What's this do for kevin. Busy oh i think he's still bats second Everyone just kind of moves down slot Going to destroy his His his fantasy appeal there That with bradley if barely moved in maybe a little different but with springer spaniel goes to the top there and Everyone moves down one. But what do you think about springer in toronto goes from houston to toronto west to east your thoughts. Good sir i mean. I think it's a great spot for him. He is going to be batting at top of What might be the best lineup in the american league. Yeah i mean there's obviously some variants here in toronto concerning how young certain members of the team is. But if you're on the kevin baio train of the bobryshev train or the vladimir guerrero train and there's lots of people on the bandwagon side specially this year. You got to be pretty excited for george springer hidden at the top of that line up. I think he can easily penson. Thirty home runs five to seven. Stolen bases And probably a hundred runs scored in this offense so i've been. I really liked for him. I mean it's not like going to the mets would have been bad situation. I don't exactly the park communities a little bit better for the power but Springer has real manpower. I wouldn't have been super worried about him being in new york either but yeah it's a great landing spot on me. I drink george bringers bathwater like i. Am you do indeed. I should have looked shirt on yesterday's when i should have great shirt. You will continue to a sibon it then what we're saying you know. Maybe you would wish he'd gone to the mets no because then the shirt would have need to work. It would have been orange and say orange. Orange and blue was the shirt. Didn't have astros markings on it. So you can. You can kept in it Topical that's all right though becomes vintage shirt down still elite. I love springer's price will go up. Let me check where it was hero quick. We've talked about this before. Everyone when they signed gets a little boost so even if it's just a couple of picks it's going to happen. Springer was the fourteen th outfielder off the board since the new year at fifty five overall behind. Osuna and martin and ahead of teammate. Busy oh and mandy rose arena. I could see him leapfrogging martin. Who's at pick fifty three. I don't know if he's going to get to of zona. Was that forty six but he could. I really believe that he could get up there. That's about where he's going to be. Springer is going to be twelve thirteen area Move up just a little bit here. One draft start to know that That he's on toronto. What do you think i mean. I'm probably going to take him in that spot. Just because he doesn't have the speed component the bathwater or the. I really like all those guys i mean. I really like osuna hero. He will obviously get a bump to once he signs. I the more and more i do drafts. The more i'm finding out. I am in on the randy arena train because i keep ending up with him. It's weird when you do a lot of draws and all of a sudden you look at your teams and you go I guess i'm a really big fan of this player in a puts to the test. A lot of things that you say not take that guy here then you get. I don't know who the freaked take. And i'm looking at this guy real nicely now. I've had that with a few different guys. We're we're in a draft right now. We'll cover it once we get deeper into it. But i've certainly had that a a bit of that. You know somebody that definitely have like maybe said. I don't know if i'm gonna take him here. I'm nervous about them. And keep ending up with him is monte. I keep getting modesty in the second round. So it's like you know. Maybe i do love him as much as he embarrassed me in two thousand twenty by saying how can how bad he's been in the end the two weeks from from heaven but yeah you really have to put things to the test. Your mind is julia rise. I got him. I think of my eight or nine drafts. i've done. I think i've got him in over half my legs while you got in this one too. I was kinda bummed on that. Pick out definitely targeting him And you have to put things to the test. Because it's it's really easy to be hypothetical and you know say you'll get this guy here. This could be my my third outfielder knowing one in his second outfielder. You're not getting there. S p dude. He's an sp to chill so got to get in their battle test. Things were doing that. Right now. springer goes up I agree with you that doing it goes up to by the way between mayfield and suna pay gap. So i could see osuna moving closer to marry field once. He signs at pick. Thirty seven and then springer philly matt in so we're just going to see a few things move up there with those outfielders As the to both get situated. I springer in toronto and then zuma whenever he signed so that was a good move by toronto and like i said it looked like it was one of two and they came quick like it was like bang bang. Both these moves here and was like oh making jokes about how during the inauguration you know toronto making moves is an active more aggressive is really good like hey look at. We're watching something. You guys relaxed per second and turns out not true. And these rumors were well-founded and substantiated. It wasn't just like random twitter egg. I know they don't do twitter. Exit springer was kind of a random twitter egg. That that's the interesting thing yet. That one ended up coming from from from Out of nowhere source and then got substantiated but everything with brantley like what was was well-founded and it looked like it was legit and it's like hold the phone. This is not over. And i wonder if it was something like looks like he's gonna accept toronto's deal you know because Houston did call back like hey will work on something. We're going to call you guys back so. They made their callback. They got us situated and they end up getting Michael brantley he's going back to houston here and they're saying not so fast. My friend we've got things to do. We still need to be contending team. 'cause they're outfielder. They austin tire outfield except for tucker But that still three guys. Brantley springer and rhetoric radic obviously not a huge loss. But you know they go from. Where the heck's tucker gonna play to can buy all three positions by himself and so Britney resigns to your deal. Thirty two mil of terms. We're not really that concerned with. I didn't even mentioned the terms for springer. But i liked going back to use. I would've loved him in toronto. This is one of those things. Same with springer. i team. They're on. You're gonna feel pretty good about it. Brantley the only real issue with him In his career. I guess has been health and kind of staying on the field and now he's a little bit older so that kind of comes into it but as far as performance. You can't really feel bad about anything that he's been doing he's been he's been awesome. And as far as health goes it's got three years goin' was pretty healthy seasons one forty three one forty eight and then forty six on a sixty. There's a little time each that but nothing that's like devastating and his performance in all three seasons has been excellent. Are you still drafting a thirty four year. Old michael brantley i am. Because he's produced. You know three hundred averages In each of the last four years and earth's are each last three years two thousand seventeen to ninety nine You know didn't twenty eighteen and twenty nine thousand nine. He put up six hundred plus plate appearances in spite of only playing in one hundred forty. Three one hundred and forty eight games I mean he. He's going to miss time. And so you deathly gonna wanna make sure you have coverage for him when he does miss time but when he's on the field he's fantastic. You're legitimate a guy who's probably twenty home runs some chip in stolen bases and a three hundred average and when you're talking about a pick after one fifty guys probably start going above one fifty but after fifty around one fifty like there's not many guys are gonna place or get as many plate. Appearances him that. I can't three hundred and are empty somewhere else. So right ross. Resource has employed in to hit third. And i of that for that. Yes did lineup. Because there's still like they're being a little bit slept on right that they're they're a hated team and i understand why. I'm not suggesting that people have to forgive. Or forget their just signed jason castro castro who we're gonna get into an a moment to its. Yeah well and also you know. They lost fair. Lander said there outfield was decimated. And so i think there's this idea that houston is rebuilding in their crap. It's like no. They're not the Yeah they they still need another outfielder. I think jackie bradley junior would fit really well there And then make miles straw a fourth in outfielder utility type but That line i know they underperformed some of the guys last year. But it still two bregman brantley korea jordan alvarez yuli gurriel tucker and then straw currently pentland centerfield and then jayson castro That that isn't good lineup. That isn't he really good lineup and brantley batting third like you said is fantastic is eighty piece currently one fifty eight. Since the new year again it will move up a little bit. I don't know that it will skyrocket though because the ageism is is there and people don't want to take a thirty four year old who does have health concerns. So i think he might move up a little but there's some very Very big fan favorites in there with hap- anthony santander don't var show the catcher well and dylan carlson. The four. that are ahead of him. And i think i think the desire to kind of get those young up and coming players will keep brantley at bain. So he might move up a little bit and maybe not even consistently go ahead of any of those guys. And i'll take him at one fifty eight all day because you can't get a lot of late batting average. That isn't Often empty and this is an empty batting average. Lugar all right. Well then. Let's talk about jayson castro. Because he went along to. He goes back to houston. He's been kind of make making his tour around the majors and it leads back to Twitter started is he was he with houston originally. Is that right. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah they They drafted him in the first round. back in two thousand eight. He put us some good seasons with them. You know ille- he had a great season in twenty. That was kind of elite one thirty. Opiates plus and he was an all star otherwise he was like solid if unspectacular and that's been kind of the mantra over his career. He's been just a little bit below average as a hitter. Quality defender can give you some really crushes righties Fills fills their catcher role as martine. Maldonado is really more defense. Only they're gonna make a nice platoon. Their the defense is going to be on a lock with with the castro maldonado and then cash. It's going to be expected. Deliver some pop. They're not a badly catcher. I'm i'm kind of find to get him as my seat to. Or maybe even as my see one. If i just completely wait on catcher so it'd be fine with that when jason castro what do you think of the thirty. Four year old backstop. You know i think he's You know pretty darn good you know framer and defensive catcher. You probably not gonna hit For much batting average. So but i mean considering He's going at Pick can't you find him five fifty nine. Whoa wait what what timeframe are easy. 'cause i in draft champions league okay. Okay yeah because if you do all leaks. I forgot to distract. Happy's he's at six twenty six so backpedal on saying that i wouldn't take one if i punted catcher. He's really still see even to three even if you punt catcher something and he's got to move up but not to a price that's gonna be a lot at all what he said. He's five hundred something and five fifty nine five sixty he might move up to like five hundred and i mean let's you know. He obviously had a release a short sample in twenty twenty because he was Planned behind guys at times So but if you look at his stat cast stuff from twenty twenty and twenty and nineteen. He had a massive jump in exit. Velocity and barrel percentage and silk. I think there is maybe some upside that we're not noticing. I mean he. His exit velocity and twenty nineteen was a ninety one point eight miles per hour and in twenty twenty one dollars ninety two point seven. His barrel percentage in twenty nineteen seventeen percent and fifteen percent in twenty twenty. Those are massive. Smashed yeah i especially for a catcher so probably not obviously not gonna play every day so you know the volume may not be there but i think there is some untapped power potential here And he could easily get to like fifteen to twenty home runs. You know with like a to forty about an outrage. Yeah no i agree in Like i said. Definitely a c to that. I'm interested in jayson castro re-signing back in houston and it's a solid move for them and like i said they'll probably look at maybe getting a center fielder. Maybe a little bit of pitching and they're not going to have her. It's gonna be grinky mccullers kind of leading the charge there with With young bucks but That's a good team still. Don't don't sleep on. Houston let's talk about jose. Can of moving to the angels. And i really liked this move for them. They need pitching. We know that we talk about it. Somewhat regularly You know even non non Angels fans are rooting for them to make moves just to get in the playoffs. We wanna see trout in october. So that i count myself. Among those who is like an angel supporter. Just make the right moves. And i think this is a right move. They need pitching depth. this is a guy who go out. Get a buck eighty innings. Can i think even off the two months season you can still rely on him as somebody to eat up a bunch of innings. You hasn't been his his quality self that we saw with the white sox an early with the cubs. But i still think there's a little bit of upside here For him to kind of refine himself a little bit. Maybe get back below for with the era Because if you look. The underlying skills have been there You know a bit high in two thousand nineteen threw ten innings this year And so it's hard to put too much into what happened there. You know a three one star. Three relief appearances in ten innings. So what i don't know but for sixty eighty are a one thirty nine whip back in nineteen but in three eighty fifth and fitz not perfect. It's not a great. i'm gonna look up stewardess. Sierra was but i think they can. Tom can still be a high threes. Low force guy which has deeper league value and in the real life realm for the angels. I think is a solid pickup. I i like this for them. When did you think of of jose container going out there. I mean it's a solid move for the angels. Four fifty sierra by which is fine. I mean that that again for them for for for the angels re-live guy go out there and give you six three. Virtually every time out that's gonna work. I mean he's left handed so he you know maybe neutralizes something of that short porch In anaheim i'm. I'm a bit concerned about you. Know some of what we saw. Obviously we're twenty twenty because he's ten innings. He missed most the season because of like a finger. Laceration was that right. I look at up as you expressed your concerns so we look it mostly twenty nineteen twenty nine hundred nineteen his own contact percentage was ninety one percent And his the exit vodka velocity loud was ninety miles an hour like he's giving up a lot of contact in the zone and it's a lot of hard contact the issue for a month. He comes back and it's a left lack so you know. He was snake bitten in twenty. They just did not work out for cantata there. And that's why you know he's he's coming back on kind of a get right. Speculation deal For the angels to give a one year eight mill deal and and see where he's at but this is a guy who went healthy. Killing said can really pile up the innings for you guy for a long time and now he's kind of in that one eighty one seventy two one eighty range and they need that right. They've got to too many guys who are big concerns with their in criminal wrestler. Rotation has injury concerns like. There's a lot of upside in injury. Any and bundy griffin canning. Shohei otani but i mean how many of them do we comfortably project to have one hundred fifty two hundred seventy earnings. And i don't think that reject any of them for two. So and he's the stall lorne cantata is to go out there and again. We deeper leaks. He's gonna come into play for us. If you're looking for kind of a steady. Eddie who maybe can spot start. It has been a while since he's been some four so you're probably looking at best at a low fours. Era get back to seventeen eighteen area where he was in four fifteen and four zero three respectively. That's probably the best educate right now. an important. He's currently going at pick. Forty two can't really hurt you. Yeah i mean right around guys. Like mc pa- vada and matt linebacker by the way why i saw i saw jeff He'd spend this great article series where he's like looking at at late investments in kind of giving analysis on them and say you know. These aren't always guys that draft. These are some guys that that you are going to pick up during the season but you need to know about them. And i think the very first line on his prevent a piece but venice sucky backing no but i let him go to the shadow rome. I couldn't. i couldn't save him. I watched him dissipate into into the nether there as he goes back into the Train i will too scared there. But i like donna. You know again the depth of league. You're just looking for a body you can get some meetings here and he's gonna have some good runs because to put up a four fifty air a over thirty two starts that includes a lot of quality Out and i don't just mean by the definition of of quality start. I mean there's going to be great. Starts out there for him. So keep an eye on those. They can get him in your deep leagues wearing just having a a stall warned of a can help all right and then the last move here j. half to minnesota these little signing year kind of in that same realm of of getting somebody who can go out there every day you know he was quietly quite good in twenty You know i think. I saw some Some twins fans all you know this is really gonna do it. I by the way. I think that is so hack that every time. You're your team signs. Somebody who's not really looking to be a centerpiece of the team. You act like that's that's what. The team is doing in expectation of making the world series. You gotta have full roster right and you know you gotta make some smaller signings but also happened. Three forty seventy or eighty one zero five web last year like i'm not saying do backflips be super excited about it. He is what Thirty eight yes. He's an older guy he doesn't walk is A decent swinging strike rate to get you in that Low twenty s Strikeout rate homers aren't issue. But i wanted to sleep. You don't mess. Park students to sona might be something that can curb it a little bit. Bring it down closer to that. One point zero one point one area as opposed to the one nine and one five. It's been each of the last two seasons and he survived it this year because of admittedly a unsustainable to twenty three badminton unsustainable eighty-one percent left on base rate. But he did kick by for the forty nine and a third innings pitched again. I i have a lot of similar things to say about him. That i wouldn't say about cantona In that you know if you're looking for a guy who you're going to get a hundred seventy innings out of his innings have been more quality. Recently he did have the twenty nineteen ninety-one era but before that three sixty five three fifty three so his thirties have been quite good. So jay happened minnesota. Not a bad boy. But i'm drafting him. In the same kind of with the same kind of notions that i would a- cantata although he's probably a bit more expensive let me see. He's four zero nine. And you said wireless content for for eighty two or yes so you play in a little bit more. Because he's been better recently but it's the same kinda guy right another lefty here. That's a older innings eater. What and you know something. I tweeted out that some people really liked. And then some people look released shit on on. I said after the signing and said yesterday Sneaky good signing here by the twins especially if they let him go through the lineup of only two times like they did with odor izzy apps career era. The first time through the order is two point nine zero second time through the order. Two point five one third times the order six point four seven what. What was the pushback on. That seems perfect on that like it hasn't been like. Is that good since in the last couple of seasons. But i mean you know they optimized odor izzy. I can't see why they wouldn't do the same something really well. They don't have the bullpen. Well it's still kind of early in the offseason like they're they're not one of the teams that were going to spend a ton of money anyways so they've got to kind of wait for the big money guys to clear out so they can go get their gems to kind of length that bullpen. But i do think this is really kinda sneaky signing for them. We're talking about devin smeltzer being in this rotation now that can bump into long relief ready dobnak becomes kind of the starter or Swing man of being the four starter. So yeah i mean is it. You know oh my god. The twins are one of the world series type back. Of course not but i think it's a very good sneaky cheap signing that allows them to keep making you know more smaller moves and Should be kind of a little mainstay in the rotation someone who's gonna eat up one hundred and fifty plus innings and do it with pretty ratios A very unsexy guy. But not a bad guy. Deeper formats i. I completely agree all around there with regards to the real life aspect and the fancy aspect and if they do manage hap- than Than than maybe they can maneuver a better era for you than than you might be expecting there. So i i like that. Pick pick up for them As well all right. Let's move on and start talking little starting pitching now. We're not gonna get too deep today. We've got the top ten listed if for taking too long going to cut it off at seven that's what we're going to do Because we do have a hard stop. So we're going to play it Play by but let's get these top ten here. It's really interesting time in starting pitching particularly at the top. Because you've got you know you've got the elite guys than than people love but there's there's an age here that i think gives people a lot of pause to and you know infertile. Enter instill been healthy. He'd be appears while as another guy who's in his mid thirties. Along with like a max scherzer degrom is not a baby darvish But then you have some young guys starting to mix in there but do they have enough track record to be trusted this high. So we're gonna get into all that. Let's start in the first round though we got three guys who consistently go in the first round and a fourth who kinda lingers there and may well Wind up with an adp. They're depending on when. Trevor bauer signs. But we're going to start talking with gary cole- jacob degrom in shane bieber. They're going seven eight nine on average They can range as high as one. Really as far as as far as coal. And i think degrom gonna see they both on one checking real quick allowed to grams. Only ghana's hi it's five interesting that since the new year in in draft champions only that's big. That's thirteen drafts. If you go all drafts let's see here. He's got goddess is four. I mean i guess people are saying if you've taken on more pitcher you might as well go cole. I loved and then beepers actually has a higher men at three in comparison to ground so these three guys the cream of the crop seventy nine. Is this the ori like them. Called the ground bieber. I actually prefer degrom. Tom cole bieber and i i think it's i think for me. It's kind of a tier of two and then bieber's actually the beginning of the next here. But i i. I don't think he can necessarily go wrong with coal or to guam. And i'm actually willing to take them in the top you know either in the top three Maybe even at one. If i'm if i'm sitting there The my preferred dress lot is been eight and drafted. There're a lot. Because i don't think that's a lot of people's prefer draft slot so You know here's the thing we're seeing like you know. I think we'll talk about this a lot throughout this the rest of this episode. We're seeing starting pitching moving up a lot faster than we have in recent years and there's a lot of really smart people in the industry pushing the pocket aces strategy or this news. You're newer strategy called the full house where you take five starting or sorry. Three starting pitchers in the first five packs so stars to interests I don't know. I'm definitely not on board necessarily in those strategies but they're becoming more widely accepted. And so you know i. I'm in three drafts. Currently three slow droughts in each of them in the first three rounds we've seen anywhere from fifteen to twenty Starting pitchers off the board. So with that. If you're picking one or two it might be worth taking coal or to guam see you know. You've got a starting pitcher when it gets back to around us. Second third round Now i think it's a it's there's people that just are out on these these three right and they will not take the super early pitcher but i think that that overall tone is shifting and i think a lot of folks have become more accustomed to taking pitcher and signing you know. Let me get that. That mega here and really start things off with the depth of hanging. I mean these first few rounds of hitting so many great players to get that you could feel comfortable about going to three rounds two and three with your hitters To pair with your your your cold grammar beaver and feel pretty good about what you get there. You know i agree with you. Graham is my number one as well. nothing against colin's really love what does and he somehow seems to be getting better Insanely enough you know had insane fastball. This year he's just so good. So those are the top three there with with cold. Ground bieber seventy nine termer. Bauer like i said is sitting at sixteen and will move into the first round once he signs and once we get into the spring draft season pitching always moves up as the draft season. Anyway but then you have the The free agent discount right now which is really that much obviously vis vis a sixteen. But i think he'll firmly be in like the eleven to fifteen range Once he's somewhere. Bauer coming off cy young season. Do you like as a fringe first. Rounder elbow pick their. I don't and it's just a matter of especially when i'm drafting. Starting pitching of a really what. I'm driving anybody in The first two. To three rounds. I'm looking for guys. I feel very safe about and while the is huge. I mean especially if if there's a team that allows him to go every four days which i don't know that there will be. He could easily be the number one player in fantasy right. So young as the volume. Yeah he could possibly get would be insane especially if you can do it. At the kind of rate we saw in twenty twenty You know. I mean he could. He could be the number one player fantasy that being said he could also revert back to being. You know Like four point. Three era. From and i don't know which one he is long to him because he's a guy who always teenagers just if he falls to me like mid second round which like he almost did in this draft that you and i are doing right now i mean he was. He went at pick. What see what sixteen seventeen eighteen. Nineteen he went. Pick nineteen in this draft Or sorry that's a different drought. Wouldn't pick nineteen in a different drafts. That i'm in and i believe he went even later in the drawer in ours He s he went sixteen seventeen eighteen. Nineteen twenty twenty one. So i mean if he ended up back to me in the second round and i picked a both in both of these draft. I probably would have taken him That being said like i. I've seen him go in the first round in a number of traps already. And i can't do that i can't either and you know he's great. I'm not suggesting that he's not good. But one of the things that i had an issue with coming off. His last great season was how much tinkerer he is. And look you know he was big on like saying guys are using stuff it it it goes beyond just a little pine tar. So he's like can't beat them join them and he clearly you know the way up to spin rate this year clearly using something to get to that level and don't really have an issue with that because of mlb is not going to police it. You know secure the bag but it does do wonder if we're gonna police it this year. And but it also kind of you know removes you from the moral high ground right and when that angels boy came out as getting in trouble and for exposing for Giving people stop and then he exposed everything is like. I mean if you can really say anything anymore because you you're very clearly you said the your spin rate. This much is to use something you something. You gotta cy young. You're going to secure the bag. Great good for you. But what are they new. Start policing it. Is he somebody that kind of goes back to a solid but not elite guy that we've seen and just not gonna take them there and just i just don't have the trust yet. Eighteen was very good came right back in nineteen to where he was and this was two months of awesomeness against a paltry central. And i just i. i can't do it. I can't do it with trevor. Bauer we don't know where he's going to sign but there's nothing about where he signs or alterations in his price. That could get me on board here at pick. Sixteen subject beleaguered all right next up. Is you darvish. Who is no longer with the cubs. But that's where he that's where he was dominating the last couple of years and since about the second half or just before the second half of twenty nine hundred eighteen he made transformation and he became efficient and just this brilliant pinpoint command guide along with still being a strikeout. He didn't he didn't give that up in order to be this guy. He added it which is particularly insane. because we were always kind of used to darvish he can be frustrating to watch because you see him get no to count and then spiked three curve balls hoping to get that swinging mass and then walk a guy or maybe still strike them out but it took seven pitches because the guy followed off a couple nine more. He had seven walks in the final fourteen starts of twenty nineteen. He had just a fourteen this year. Which feels like a lot raining. Comparison there it all starts is doubling it. But it's still a very very healthy walk right there. He's become this new guy. He had a very strong case for the cy young himself in his seventy six innings. And he's an absolute monster. He is thirty four. Hesam health concerns. But i mean there really isn't a pitcher. That doesn't so. I'm i'm reluctant to go too hard on worrying about the health. Maybe the age gives me a little pause. But i like darvish at at pick. Seventeen i'd be open to taking him. He's my number four starter. So i on darvish when you think. Yeah he's mind number four starter and he's really close to bieber for me Y- since the all-star break of twenty nineteen he's throwing one hundred and fifty seven in two-thirds innings two hundred eleven strikeouts a two point four. Era with a two point five. Four and two point five nine v and x fit His whip is point. Eighty eight during that span since the all-star break of twenty nine dean. He's been pretty much the best pitcher in baseball You know and so. Like i have no reason to think that he can't continue to do something along. Those lines don't really understand the projection systems. Not giving him anywhere close to that. I mean the bat hasn't at three eighty five yar a You know and pretty much steamer and zips you know both have them a mid threes or higher But i mean you know. Some people in the industry have expressed concerns about his innings. But i'm not. I'm not super worried about his health. Profile I mean he's been pretty much healthy last two seasons and no reason to think that Unless another tommy. John pops up that that that's gonna be an issue for him so I feel very comfortable getting him. You know anywhere in the second round. You know kind of end of secondary beginning a second round word later. I don't know if i would take him in. The first kind of depends on what's happened in the draft or what. My strategy is going to be but like if if i was going to do e pocketed astrology. I love to do with like a darvish giolito. Yeah i'd be down for that too. I totally agree that i could. That could be down for for that combo there and i really loved darvish again. I agree with you on. I'm not gonna let age and injury. I'm not gonna overweight those things because yeah the ages there but as far as the injury there just isn't a pitcher without injury risk and i know having previous health issues adds to it a bit but not so much that i'm gonna nor the brilliant stats. That darkness is putting up at this point and what. He's become an his just rolling abilities and of course now he's out in san diego With that ball club in petco. Which is a solid stadium. It's not as pitcher friendly as it used to be but still perfectly fine to pitch in probably better than wrigley to be honest and an excellent team behind him so All all here enemies absolute pitcher in the top. Ten to fifteen starting pitchers hat. Tat doesn't have an injury history They're really i mean i guess. Does it really not cool did earlier in his career. Okay yeah yeah don't even Again that's the thing you're you're you're gonna get hurt as like that's that's that's hard to my the ballgame like i'm always careful to not overrate that because That's just inherent in pitching i. He's look at darvish over the last two seasons. You know he's Sixteenth in all of baseball in terms of innings pitched like love to see that. Yeah i mean. I get that. He missed time early in his career but the last two seasons. He's been very very healthy. And i'm totally fine with it. Yeah garbage is an absolute monster totally agree there and if you did do what you said there with the pocket aces taking darvish. Fifteen and angelina at sixteen. Say if you were on the elbow like that then you kinda get the old and the young because leaders only twenty six. And he's really come into his own. He had the brilliant breakout two thousand nineteen and he kept going this year he was he was awesome yet again. In twelve starts including the no hitter at three forty eight year one. four webb strikeout machine. He's just is just one of the best pitchers in baseball now. And you know took a while to come together remember. He was the literal worst pitcher in two thousand eighteen Especially when you account for the volume because he threw a full season one hundred seventy three innings and he had six thirteen era and so obviously nobody was looking to take him and he has this transformation Of his own accord by the way. This was not really anything that the white sox fostered. He was doing his own work figuring himself out and transformed himself into a beast. Who's now a top twenty overall. Pick and obviously. I don't have to ask you if you're if you're interested in taking him because you said you are but What do you like about this twenty six year. Old lucas giolito. And can we see more. you know. See somebody they can put up a sub three areas. Season in your estimation. I think it's possible a banking on. I think he's a guy that's gonna be like a a low threes yara with a ton of strikeouts Did a really good job in the short season in twenty twenty kind of limiting. The home runs walks. Went up a little bit. But i think some of that was just being willing to put him out on base instead of giving up that homer You know trying to force it in their Late and count so Velocity maintains the end of that was one of the big things in twenty nine thousand nine. That kind of helped with With the huge season then Average fastball velocity went up to ninety four point six miles. An hour in twenty twenty was ninety. Four point three so this is in a situation where we got a velocity bump in Disappeared in a. He's got a scary health. Profile is well Guy who struggled throughout his early part of his career with injuries. But i think he's a pretty safe bet going in the second round in his kind of my favorite pitcher to target in the second 'cause he's often available when i'm picking in the middle of the draft when it comes around to me. I don't know if i don't know if that's going to be the case here in a few weeks it's already In both all three these drafts that i that i've done that. I'm doing right now. He was not available in the middle of the second round. I think he's going to be an early second rounder. But that's okay. You know if you end up around pick you know twelve thirteen fourteen. Fifteen in a fifteen draft in. You're able to pair a guy lake ozier ramirez or christian yelich or trevor story with lucas. Giolito i feel like it's a really good start. Yeah i agree. That is a good one two punch there and did have some health issues coming up but three full seasons now with thirty two twenty nine and twelve starts the last three years so certainly somebody who has been pitching healthily. The last three years two of them. Excellent the other Quite bad but Yeah giuliano you feel pretty confident about where he's at and the fact that there's actually a tinge of upside to go with him walker. Bueller is up next at twenty one on average and you know i think the the major concern with him is is what nick pollock calls. Dodge rightous because of their pension for kind of managing their guys and kind of going in and out everything but he threw hundred and eight hundred in nineteen this year becoming off a big workload because playoffs as well. They kind of they were weird with him and he ended up throwing thirty. Six two-thirds got off to a slow start but quietly finished brilliantly. Three forty four point ninety six whip when it was all said and done and then an amazing playoff run for walker. Bueller that you know. If you don't believe in this talent. I i don't know what kind of what's going to convince you to do. So because he's in credible so what do you think about About went walker. Buehler's doing and are you interested in taking him if somebody takes giolito from you. Yeah i mean. I'm a big walker bueller guy and i i was at one of his first games You know early on in his major league debut and was act- absolutely just blown away by him and since then i've just been huge fan. I do wonder if i understand the whole dodge riotous thing. I don't know if that necessarily still applies to him. Considering he's he's now kind of the ace of the rotation even with kershaw cillerin pitching very very well I wonder if there's a little kluber rightous in him which means low starter Well you know. We saw him not be ready for the start of the season because he was having trouble. Kind of just you know opening up in kind of getting going and in twenty nineteen like Believe his march was his worst worst month so like i wonder if maybe he has a hard time getting going when it's still a little bit cold or ways for starting going. It's too small of a sample to draw any real conclusions from it. It's just something that i've kind of heard mentioned by other people And a camera brute. Wise i can't give him Give them the proper credit. But feel free to tap me on twitter. And all and i'll give you the The credit that being said like. I think he's a star and i think he's pretty close to guarantee one hundred seventy five like really really. Good things You know. I'm i'm thinking like a three three fifteen. Er hundred seventy five innings you know ten strikeouts per nine You know and a pretty dominant whip below one whip so I have no problem taking him where he's going I definitely prefer giolito. Feel more comfortable about the innings But he's a he's he's the end of that second tier above the next Guys were talk about. Yeah no i. I definitely see that if he is that. So starter type you know. It's it's something that's kind of fringe to say. This is not something you can always take advantage of. But maybe is that sorta guy bueller. That has a slow start. Maybe you didn't get him at the draft table and then you try to buy him a little bit cheaper. You're not gonna steal from somebody who's gonna gimme. Gimme him for like men round picks. But maybe you didn't get your top ace and you're looking at things in early. May and he hasn't really gotten going yet and you slide in and say hey. Let me give you my ace here. Who i drafted around or later and and i'll take off your hands. Maybe package guy like snell or somebody with a outfielder or a position player that they have injured and be like. Hey here's our you know i'm gonna bank. That bueller is still better than snow. But you're getting another piece for your team exactly and then you get all the you'd get all the good of what he can do. Because he's he's awesome and watching him pitch israeli fun. He's he's just really so so good. And i think i think the best is yet to come. And that's coming from somebody who you know has a two sixty two. We are a in one hundred thirty seven innings back in twenty eighteen I think there's a season like bad for thirty two starts like that's kind of talent that that or has Aaron nola comes in next at pick twenty three on average. he's had an interesting trajectory. You know he had injury issues to start a guy like hey you just can't get through a full season. He has glimpses. But it's not quite there and then twenty seventeen Got close in twenty seven starts hundred sixty eight innings and starting to put things together and then breaks out big time in two thousand eighteen with a massive season. Two thirty seventy point. ninety eight. whip Cy young contender thing comes back to the pack of bid in nineteen with a three eighty seven and a one twenty seven whip and so i think people starting to move off of him a bit. It was weird how quickly the market reacted And i'm not really sure what's behind that but then this year he was kind of back to that megastar. There was a little bit I think there was a bumpy start or to the kind of took him back to the three twenty eight area that he ended e closed a little a little bummbly. If that's a word probably not but he had a sixty era in his last week he was. He was training as a cy. Young candidate there with a to forty eight through nine starts. Of course we're parsing twelve start Start running here. For noah but he was great this year without a doubt. And the people buying back in as you can see when the pig twenty-three adp is somebody that you'll by Because he'll be he's going to be available to you a lot in that mid area that that you're picking Based on your your katie s. Yeah he's definitely someone. i'm considering i made. I found myself going hitter hitter a lot and so i don't know if i don't believe i've gotten aaron nola yet on a team but he's definitely someone of entertained Prefer a few other guys In this area lewis. Castio like brand woodruff but I don't have a problem if if norris my ass Just you know. I end up. You know in the middle of the second round amended up seeing guys like Alberto mandi and bryce harper and Francisco door and manny machado and. I have a hard time turning those guys down in the second round and so i typically have waited until the third round To address starting pitcher. If i didn't get one in the first So probably not gonna end up with a guy. Like noah This year. But i think as we start seeing the starting pitching continue to move up as we typically do throughout draft season. I'm gonna end up. Maybe with more guys and that's going around. He'll be part of that. Yeah i think If you're picking in that middle of the first round you really want to get that pitcher by round to nola can be your guy. And he's really good. I mean it's really all you can say about is run good. He's probably had his best season with that. Two thousand eighteen. But that doesn't mean that you can't get a solid low three zero with a really good whip and the strikeouts in probably been there too He's really amped up in fact that this year was a new career high At at twelve point one rate at ten point two the year before he's got the stuff to to put up huge strikeout totals and it was always kind of lurking. They're a little bit where he had quite a strike out for any type of guy in pull up his his rate tanks. I do prefer that over per nine but yeah you know sitting twenty five twenty seven In the sixteen two thousand sixteen through twenty eighteen but then jumped it to thirty to thirty three percent this year. now that didn't include a boost in swing strike. Great will it hold. We know right short season but if you keep some of those gains and kind of lives in the upper twenties and maybe even a low thirties of strikeout rate. That's something for no one. That can really take them to that next level too so keep that in mind with him next up. We have louise castio going around. Pick twenty eight on average maybe involved in a little bit of trade rumoring hairy cincinnati at the very beginning of the season. You know all of a sudden. They're talking about training everybody. I'm like why freaking getting me. What the heck is so stupid. And nothing's really moved on anybody so maybe it was just some idle talk as we know fire. There's plenty of smoke but we're now week away from february. I don't know that they're going to be able to blow it up in time You know so. We'll see if they even one trade but castio obviously drawn a lot of attention as woods. Sonny gray Understandably castio now has thrust himself into The top ten pitchers here. And i love to see it because skyping bought in on from the jump and you know remember. He had that that brilliant half season in two thousand seventeen. I was all in little ambitious. There was a little wobbly in two thousand eighteen but had the big second half there and has taken off since then since the second half of two thousand eighteen. He's been on fire. Excellent twenty nine thousand nine season and really really great this year in two thousand twenty now a lot to do the caveat with a lot of those central guys because we know that they were facing just such inferior competition compared to everybody else and that does play a role in this and i wonder you know we see bieber see bauer. We don't know if he's going to be the central Darvish who's up. They're not in the central anymore either but then giolito and castio. We got a lot of central guys in there. Are you concerned about that. Does that concern extend to somebody like castio or would you be comfortable taking him at pick twenty on average. I'm fine digging. Pick twenty eight. I mean there is a little bit concerned that you know. Maybe the quality of competition wasn't as great as other a in other divisions. I mean. listen to this start to his season. He started with detroit then did at detroit and cleveland kansas city then at kansas city. Then yeah two games against pittsburgh You know milwaukee was a struggling team as he is yeah. Maybe the quality of competition wasn't great. But i mean castillo has been great. You know much of his career and i mean he's done a really good job of limiting home runs in a part that it's difficult to limit home runs in As he were to get traded he'd be in a you know most likely a better part You know he gets all the strikeouts he want. I mean he's probably you know closer to his twenty nineteen than the twenty twenty. So sure a guy who's like a twenty seven twenty eight percent strikeout rate With you know a mid threes era. But that's fine. Because he's going to rack up the innings in you know if he does get traded. He's going to be on a better team so he'll rack up the winds as well. So i like lewis kathy. I mean he's pretty safe. I love him. And you know you look at sixteen and fifteen percents percent swinging strike rates. The last two years really really gives that strikeout potential And you should feel confident about the high s as his watermark and with the potential to be in the thirties. First full season there with strikeout rates at last count. We're gonna talk about today. Is max scherzer at ten. He's fallen a bit obscene. Due to age and a little bit of performance that goes with that but still in the top ten you can only you can only drop them so far because he is still max max scherzer and he still has that that overwhelming talent you know three seventy four. He one thirty eight whip this year little bit of a home run issue but the core skills were still there. Thirty one percent strikeout rate. Eight percent walk With with a fifteen percent swinging strike rate. So there's still a lot to like From max scherzer but people are getting a little bit worried about the the health age as he goes into age thirty six season and he's had a few knickknack injuries this year It was more or less healthy. Just can and a few struggles and a couple of bad starts can really tank the numbers and that's really what happened here. The and games of six and five earned runs and then a couple of floors mixed in but he's still had one two three four five six seven. Eight eight brilliant starts on a twelve. It's just that the four added in a pretty big impact because he'll add twelve starts so I'm still pretty confident. In max scherzer in. I'll gladly take these things going on average at pick thirty so if you get you know the top pick there and you go with a pitcher If you go with a hitter of your choosing whether it's a kuna trout Or whomever you come back and shares are still there for you. I'd feel pretty good about that personally. What about you. yeah. I feel pretty good. I haven't ended up with him which is A bit surprising to me. Because i've always kind of been a better guy. He's a beast to yeah. I mean remember all the people like will. This contract isn't going to age. well well. This contract is over at the end of this season and last year was the first time since becoming national debt. He hadn't era over three point zero five. He's had only won one of those seasons. Did he have only one of those seasons. Do have a three are a Outside of twenty one and two of the tiger tiger seasons were under three so keys. Just been extremely durable. He's been a to injured inning guy almost every year of his career except for in two thousand twenty and twenty nineteen. So if you want to say well maybe this is the end. I can see that argument. But that's why he's dropped. You know down to kind of the back of the of the second round. Exactly i mean. Would i be surprised if he has another two hundred inning. You know three point. You know nothing yar in them. I wouldn't like. I like even with the three point. Seven four yard this year. His v necks vip. Were both lake. Three and a half so I like max scherzer. I'm i am sure. Will he will end up on a team of mine as people. Push up Kind of the younger sexier options ensures falls in certain traps. But he he's a borderline top ten guy for me and i think that's fine. Yeah i mean he's got a max of forty five and i've done fantastic there. Imagine if you're getting him at the back end of the third around it's just you know that'd be awesome and and that currently in Rob dpi tro took coal at number one and then shares are at at thirty there and he took room he went. Realmuto arose arena bias. Altuve for his hitting. And you know. I don't think he's really lost anything there With with waiting till the third round the tickets. I hit her in my other draft claiming Kunia first and then max scherzer in removed dough on two three dern that that's a really nice turner you just don't get your ace and then you get the best catcher in the game That's yeah that's a really interesting set up. I think the next draft. I do i am going to try to get something closer to the top lit really living in that Latter portion like yourself there middle middle to end. And i wanna see what what building from the front looks. I from the front as well. There's some fun. there's some fun teams here for sure. All right that's gonna wrap us up. Just an his a thursday. How would i not know the day. Everyone knows the day right. So that's gonna wrap this up for this thursday. We're gonna talk more starting pitching next week and we will be talking to the wonderful nick. Pollock can set up some time with him to to get into some of these pictures and and see where he's at this year. Things change as open isn't nothing guys. He takes some bring amount for this one would have been Will not a waste. It's never a waste targeting policy. But it's i want to get in his realm of pitcher there and talk about the ones that he's really gonna like so we'll link up with him Otherwise kira off. Just want to let people know. Michael simione is gonna join me on sunday with With jason kellett. We're going to argue about Michael lorenzen So if you eat you don't support. Has michael lorenzen. I do not. So we're we're gonna we're gonna have a little bit of an argument. He's going to try to convince me. That michael lorenzen is is going to turn into ineffective starting pitcher asking me. I'm in well i. Maybe i'm just the lone holdout. I'm i'm open to being convinced you wouldn't like he's he's a beast. I truly truly am eager to see how this goes. Yeah we'll we'll we'll leave this a teaser and friends fancy benefits Draft guide available on pdf and now on amazon An ionized announced on twitter and wanted announce it here. That I'm going to do a drawing of anybody who buys the French fancy benefits draft guide either. Pdf or paperback And one person out of that group before the end of the month will get a spot in. Tgif be i this year so if you wanna get into fbi this year The only way you're going to be eligible if you're not in the industry is by buying friends of fancy benefits draft guide on amazon. 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Salisbury Steakout: MLB Top 100, NBA All-Star Game

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Salisbury Steakout: MLB Top 100, NBA All-Star Game

"John salisbury show continues on sports. Talk seven thousand nine hundred ninety home for your home teams sean. Now the cells. Stakeout steakhouse on the sean salisbury. Show guy tower number to stick it out. Tyler what's happening so yesterday. Major league baseball completed their list of the top one hundred players right now. There are three astros on that list however none of them break the top fifteen number. Fifty five is jose out to number thirty. Six brantley and number seventeen is alex. Bregman are any of these guys a little too maybe underrated in his rankings. I think they're fair. I think bregman s- you know. I mean if you wanna make the argument he could creep into the top fifteen last year. The aberration of a season because it was shortened. All right. i think that if bregman plays the way that i expect him and most of us expect him to play this year in a full season. Then you have this poll come out. Next year he'll finish in the top fifteen closer to the ten then then closer to ten to fifteen. How's that that's fair. Brantley stages steady. I think he's very matter of fact. I if you would have told me honestly that brantley was in the top forty by the poll. Not that. I don't think i when he came here i'll never forget. Loved him and been in people in cleveland. When i'd go on their show all you're gonna love him problem is you can't really be healthy. Well we're fortunate to get a healthy michael brantley in a consistent one because he's just a pro's pro but i wouldn't i probably if you just said we'll finish the top forty. I'd probably said he wouldn't have over the poll. I really why. I think that that's a i. I'm actually surprised that he's not that he's not worthy of it. I'm just actually so quiet. He's not a self promoter. I'd probably thought they wouldn't have had him there. And i think altoona especially after last year's in part of its lifetime achievement. Award and part of it is i think people believe he's gonna come back. I think those two guys probably where they should be. And i actually. I think that's impressive. That michael brantley is in the top forty and bregman at seventeen and other goodyear and he will not be out of the top. Fifteen mc sam sees not. They're disconnected bad. I'd i'd said with a good year that that that I don't know if you've heard the question about top one hundred bregman at seventeen. I think a good year and he jumps inside the fifteen next day. They got dinged by having a bad regular. Everything's obviously based on what you did last year. In the regular season and the astros regular season sucked they went. They were under five hundred twenty nine and thirty one they had. How many guys what was it. Just one guy brantley. Hit three hundred like bregman was down. Craiova's was down Everybody was down so if they have their normal years. Those guys will pick right back up and we were talking about the list. I was shocked that even if he only played two games last year. How does your don just based off of what he did as a rookie. Not even in the ninety something range. Yeah i you know you thought. Maybe that's why they're waiting to see if he can sustained over a full year after what they saw. And i actually think some people forget i do i think they. Oh that's right. you're don alvarez. Do not in this town. But i think nationally it's like and i don't think it's an intentional sign of disrespect. I think it's like oh and you know how sometimes veterans are. It's like well. Let me see what this kid's got again. They'll they'll it can be a tough one to crack. But i think they're fair ratings for the astros. I have not seen the list. So i would imagine the top five have in no particular order trout. Te that's taught. Tease soto Aren't autos probably in the top. Fifteen is are now does number thirteen teams number six. Okay so i said trout bets. Soto trout one. Two sodas five okay so one or two so three and four trout bets. Wanted to sotos five you said grandma. Graphs include pitches two grams. Top five number three is number four at everyday player. Yes and it's not not six. Who live let me go around with who we leave out man who who's in here. Oh not ronald kunia is it nor kunia is seven and lindores fifteen okay Freddie freeman freddie freeman is number four. Wow i figured it'd be a brave i would. I would have had freddie freeman. Probably between ten and fifteen. And he's the one. I think is a little too high for this is what thirteen acuna is. Seven about freeman. I mean he was the. There's no no another forty one with thirteen home runs in the phenomenal another guy. Well he's just a he's just hey nominal player and you're listening to chipper jones and a lot of the broadcast. Talk about him. I mean listen. Freddie freeman may be the most underrated player in major league baseball right now. I honestly honestly thirties. Eleven years into his career age of thirty. He's actually two hundred forty home runs. He's done pretty well. That doesn't stop doesn't say much just keeps on keeping on right. He's i think he's the most underrated player in baseball. 'cause had you said go through the top ten and he is the reigning most valuable player. I would not have named him not because he's not a good player he almost falls under the. Oh that's right. Freddie freeman because he's not flashy really good glove consistent hitter. Put the ball in play got power. Does it all man. Everybody loves him. What's not to like about it. And i think most people would have put his teammate ahead of him. I would have if i was voted i would have gone through and all those guys and i would have had said okay number nine. Let's see who am. I leaving out and you go and you say oh. How did i li freddie freeman zeal. How did i leave him out. Guy honestly yeah great player for the last year he should have. I don't think if we set over the next five years name your top five players. I don't think freddie would have made the top five for the next five now. i don't think so. He's got a guy. That's right at plus at ballpark though. I mean he's gonna hit. Yeah plus they're not it's not like he's twenty three and a rise were and flashy meaning like soto and and tease and kuni. I mean you know. I mean when i say flashy excitable right freddie's just kind of steady man. Steady freddie was kinda like Larry fitzgerald he is done same. Well quite frankly. He's a national league's version of mr consistently bradley. They don't talk much as far as self promote. Just rake man and freddie freeman a really good player and i get it and so that those pretty. That's pretty good top five. Needless to say i do have to make one correction. There are actually four astros in the top. Sixty like i said. Bregman seventeen. ver- lander no. Michael brantley is thirty. Six out surveys. Fifty-five i missed carlos correa at fifty-six that is my way they go also worth noting that george springer is number twenty really. Yeah this is based off last year. Of course springer's number twenty so springer would only finish behind bregman on this list. He would want comes to the astros interesting. That's pretty impressive. I hold george springer and that kind of regard to have thought that they would put him in a in top twenty players. Vote on this. Is this the players players. Vote think the nfl has top of. Yeah like the nfl network is if the players picking. It's a dozen say who picks but it says it's based off player performance over the past several seasons with an emphasis on twenty twenty and projected twenty twenty. Listen then freddie. Freeman belongs in the top in this in the top five. No doubt and i think springer is going to have a monster year in toronto. I do. I love that young team and i live in done eating or whatever it is that they play their spring to that place in florida. Toronto via in toronto. But you gotta stop in florida for a long time. Not not a bad warm down there in the spring training facility in the middle of the. I'll tell you what they won't complain about at least the drive to the complex during spring. It's still a little cold in toronto. So once spring training won't complain about the no state income. There you go all right so the mc what do you got as we wrap up Nba all star game was announced yesterday. Great starters right. Yeah so the starters from the west or Luca steph curry lebron. James nicol yokich and kawhi leonard in the east. It's joel embiid jaanus Kevin durant like you mentioned bradley. Beal finally makes an all star game deserves and kyrie irving and area guys. That shouldn't be there. I don't think so. I'm okay with those starters on both sides. I think The the starts now the the reserves. They'll they'll between the reserves starters lebron katie on the fourth of march will pick who they want from the starters in the reserves and mix and match the teams and lebron katie. Lebron starting his seventeenth all star game. Which i believe is record still k. d. What starting his eleventh is that. What it is or in his eleventh all star game so pretty impressive. I don't really care about this all star game and for the first time we're going to have the skills competition on the same day as the as i believe. It's all in one so skills three point actual game all and are we even having a dunk contest this year. It's supposed to take place at halftime stupid. Which is danica. That's gonna be weird. It's better than having to listen to her gear somebody to a halftime show. That's for sure. And i think that a lot of the money raised is going to historic historically black colleges and universities. I'm pretty sure. I think if there's anything that comes out of the all star game aside from the one that's one ninety hundred one eighty eight. It'll be the money donated to those that that deserve it and need it. That'll be awesome right sports. Talk seven hundred eighty. It's nice we'll hear again from more from dusty baker and james click about these astros. It's time i know the watson. Thank kind of hovers over and rightfully so once this little cold ends. You gotta start to look and say man florida arizona arizona. Florida major league baseball only thing missing is all of us being there with a hotdog cold beer and packed houses. But we'll take this to start hopefully at some point in the next year we'll be able to on a regular basis but man baseball's here and it can't get here soon. Enough sportstalk seventy hour number two rolling along here with the fellas. Sean salisbury show.

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The Sean Salisbury Show Reacts To The Astros Game 1 Victory Over The Twins

The Sean Salisbury Show

14:44 min | 7 months ago

The Sean Salisbury Show Reacts To The Astros Game 1 Victory Over The Twins

"What's it like to drive the Volvo xc ninety plug in Hybrid The thrill of four hundred horsepower t eight twin engine. The joy of. Impromptu road tramps. And Serenity. Of Electric. POWER IMPURE ECO mode. Visit DMV. Oval retailer today to experience the exit ninety recharge plug in hybrid for yourself. Bill quarterback. Time, French? Very. This is the Sean Salisbury show. And, that's a ground ball left side softly hit up play Bregman bare hands throws, and it is time to get to know pits and he drives this when a right field backing up on it as ridicule have to play it off the wall. He's GonNa get to quickly and they're gonNA send Kappler here's the play from Korea on the relay he say, a bank bank play at home crews drives in the Games, I, run slider that's a base it up the middle that should score radic he's around thirties score Maldonado tries to go to third and they're gonNA throw him out but collecting the RBI single is George Springer it's one a piece as we go to the stretch upstairs ball four and the astros take the lead altuve eight draws the bases loaded walk jury L. Touches Home Plate it is two to one Houston. Curve Ball and that's grounded third base back by Bregman steps up there for what throws to first, and that is the ball game they Houston. Astros take game one at Minnesota winning this afternoon by a final of four to one. Two. Is Worth spending is use less earth. Tens A. Breaking ball early until. Finds. Fromberg was awesome. US standing. Looks. The game. And it's play. There you have it. Big, win needed the first one. Now they to best pitchers. Sure, as heck aren't available today, you wouldn't think. In any way shape or form maybe tomorrow but a big win. On, a horrible. Play by Polanco. Great performance by FRAHM. And laying off a pitch just out of the strikes on a guy couldn't throw it through a wet paper bag on a fastball anymore and Sergio. Romo. But. Throws more think you'd Second League right now and. You know curve balls or sliders that he throws he does not throw many fastballs and. The ability for out to Veta- off three to pitch out of the strike zone. Walks in a run and then the rest is history than the extra typical Michael Brantley to. put it out in front and they beat the twins on the road for one. Great performance by from WHO'S BEEN Look Team Twenty, yeah he's been incredible man. It's just been phenomenal in a routine play turns into a win the lack thereof routine play for the twins to into a ninth any win winning a close game. In the playoffs and a three game series. Now you've got it out for two more star hasn't been announced gotta be your Keady I think. Yeah. But the game too will happen this afternoon and huge. When you go round, the Yankees took care of their business Tampa pitched well took care there's g leader had a perfect game going through what six I guess eggs. Yeah. Broke up and then and they homered Three times in a game. So, we'll in the American league everybody took care of their business. Even. Though Oakland did not hit. Well, Yankees did everybody took care of their business and in our team here. Did enough to hang on and play Great Defense Bregman did a nice job. The they defended well in the twins of played really good defense all year long and it backfired on on the political play in the Astros took advantage of it with the Altuve as patients to play. Big Nice to have everything kind of go your way and you know the the twins made their mistakes and things but one of the underrated things but the astros through the years, they don't make mistakes typically in the field obviously that team that has a history of screwing up they do that yesterday. So. Now we're talking about is a short series. You win this thing today and move move on when nobody picked you to do it. I cannot believe it but that was a perfect baseball game yesterday for as frustrating as it was early on because they couldn't get anything going with the bats but. It's tough. He is. He's had A. Excuse. Me and listening to who was it. That I was listening to talk if. Who who we have on? Yes. There's talking about how do we have somebody on seven or? The truth is diff- if it's not for Bieber, he may be i. mean you can understand CBS. and. They took care of it and they needed game on in a bad. Bad Way and they got it. And I really don't care how they got it. The fact that matter is I don't care. Hey that's why you play nine innings and that's exactly why you gotTa Demean You keep doing it. You'll off pitches you run out balls that you know. That should be routine place and you take what you can get. And they're hard to come by in the postseason. It. Is the. WS next to the line next to. The. Game. That's all that matters. But yeah, they're gonNA. have to hit at some point and listen the twins did not. Hit. Well, yesterday obviously and a lot of that has to do with. From Brazil incredible five extent he's been. Excuse me he's been fantastic. He really has and. anytime you can get him out there. The chances are you've got you've got a pretty good shot right now and you couldn't have said that one spring training started remain. It's incredible I know faith coming in for the Summer Camp Washington pitch in the Inter squad games and he was getting lit up and Inter squad games it's like to be the same from run over in the. They'RE GONNA they're gonNA rely on this guy. He is completely flipped the switch. He has become a top of the rotation pitcher and it's incredible and I love it. MAKES, US. Look like idiots because he has just been awesome and to do it in the postseason. Yeah. It's one thing to do it came out walk the first two guys. Good guys. You can go back to Ole frahm. And then now, well, what is the number one thing we said about him this sensor this is his ability to get over bad stuff quicker and he did in the past and I let it fester and it didn't fester. Okay. He walked a couple and then boom you settle in and before you know you're the star of the game. And the ability for a guy who's an aggressive hitter who struggled mightily this year and who's been grinding the entire year to lay off a pitch that you think. He not afraid of going up and hammer and one out of strike zone. Yeah. We've seen them hit that. And a million times and it's really. It's really it was very good to see. Select hate listen nobody cares was a hit. Kim Me I right exactly right and then. Take care of your business in the bottom of the ninth and you win. Game One in such a short series, turn it around and hey, all you have to do is now. Just be smart taking get decent pitching but hopefully, the bats alive enough because even if you do win the series, you'd like to have that feel good head into the next series about okay. Batra starting to wake and I'm not worried about Bradley that guy just seemed to hit regardless. He's always going to put the ball in play and give me. A chance stars left the hit, his keep going on, but let's not push forward. Now, the twins are capable of Mash, the next two games and when in this but right now, enjoy it until we it back up and they've got to get over it. Now, meaning the Astros India focused on taking care of business, you don't want to get too. Because in gain if they get the game three and you use user key today, then I guess who it's colors in games. It's gotTA BE mccullers Game Three, right? Yeah. If you don't use them. and. opposite. If it's mccullers if mccullers doesn't pitch out of the bullpen, for Katie starts, then you would assume that mccullers starts gained three if a colors does pitch. Or starts today and they use the bullpen, and maybe your key comes back in game three road imagine. To. Using those guys heavily. Right because you've got to save one of them or both depending for. Four you still have. You still have Christian heavier who can come in I. think that's kind of the if. If. You're going to stick to that piggyback option I think it's him and then you leave you know whichever one of mccullers or That you don't start today for game especially since it's not an elimination game, right? Because it's I mean it is for them right but they still got another. Right. I in. That's just one kind of thing with disastrous team. They don't have that bullpen in my mind to just say, okay, we're going to go out there and we're gonNA throw five different pitchers and we feel good about it where some teams, the raised others the as they can do that kind of stuff This astros seemed they're just not afforded that that's why you saw what you saw yesterday and it was also a huge affirmative. Horseshoe US exactly. They have a couple arms. They can use situational type of stuff that you wouldn't be. You know completely uncomfortable with but he gave you the ability to go to straight days to where everybody's available. Have Anybody shut down know what else? I like to. Their importance on game one. Is they said, this is so we have to use him today and the other thing I liked the dusty said. Be Damned about a closer and closer situation farmers pitching. Well, he's still. In his. Why I'm not throwing Presley out there you twenty. Stayed with. Just. Let him finish this out. I'd love the dusty did that and just didn't force it because frommer was pitching well. Understood that out honestly, if it's not at a pitch count, there's no change in velocity or his command I'm talking about any pitcher any situation? That, why you would I understand what you got Mariana Rivera sitting down there but if you're going good. And the guys been lights out which he was yesterday after I. Mean I don't know why you automatically in certain situations feel like we we gotta put a closure I don't I've never understood that I get certain situations where guys excel but when a guy's going good and he's having. Day In that kind of command and they're having a hell of a time with the bat on the ball. Why I thought yesterday was a brilliant decision by him. I did if he had given up two hits in the eighth and got out of it and then okay I say okay maybe. Something agreed. But the fact that he hadn't given up anything outside those two walks heading into the ninth. Let them finish it out and that's dusty did and it just makes me smile at the twins of lost seventeen straight postseason games hard to fathom. It really is talking about the pressure for them and game re don't have fans out there though but that pressure for them as real and we're going to see if they pucker today or not. He talking about squeezing SAWDUST OUT OF A. Craze announcer they're pitching yet BRIO. Berea we do not know who the astros we don't dusty still said after the game not sure. I can tell you this the pitcher knows pitching. Yeah. That knows Brio says the type that. If. You get to a Murli a you can put up a bunch of runs but if you don't get too early could be a long day. That's just the type. They've had some very good success against. Has Good news here. So but you gotta get to them early that sliders working early for him and you're swinging and missing he gets that confidence that's when he takes off as a starter. Yup. Astros. Play by Veta- layoff and great job by from Ver-. In, game one they take one lead they'll play again this afternoon game to will still waiting on WHO's taking them out for the Astros huge start needed game one we said it was about as important any game one. In Major, League Baseball, and you got four hundred games on the slate today. Literally four hundred, lock it in eleven o'clock the first game literally four, hundred playoff, her new answer new noon I. Guess You Guys Literally Others Funded Baseball game four, hundred I believe it's eight but I could be wrong. Could four, hundred, hundred, eight or four hundred I can't remember which every hour you know you can turn on a different baseball. So that's eight or is it four hundred? I believe it's Eight is eight. Okay. I'm sticking with four hundred because that's what it's GonNa feel like that's all Antonia and I wish that the broadcasters were in the same city at least looking at the same screen even if they're not in the ballpark. Okay. So sitting in calling them from your home in different or everybody go to the same person's home. Okay. If that's what we're doing. It is so weird but hey, don't worry. We'll just keep talking about the cheating scandal and trash cans and all that it'd be another great broadcast is why you should listen to sports talks ninety Robert Florida's de sparks actually talking about the game and just keep winning and nobody can they they got eventually quit talking about what? Can. Just boop scabby can can hate shabby can he just Call every game book Shabbes. Awesome. And I understand like. Love. Jason Bonetti in a damn booth doesn't have to be for the white sox because of that you know. He calls the White Sox games put them somewhere else but they have them in the same studio show with stat cast and stuff you ever heard of big Sean Yeah friend of the show sports talk seven ninety, Astros win seven, one, three, two, one, two, five, seven, ninety. Are you one that all sense? This is the thing that turned it around or are you still tread lightly we'll take the win anyway get it sports talk seven. What's it like to drive Volvo xc ninety plug in Hybrid The. Thrill of four hundred horsepower t eight twin engine. The joy of impromptu road trump's. And Serenity. Of Electric power in pure ECO mode. Visit a DMV evil retailer today to experience the xc ninety recharge plug in hybrid for yourself.

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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 439: Signings, Free Agency, and Impacts

GSMC Baseball Podcast

1:29:58 hr | Last month

GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 439: Signings, Free Agency, and Impacts

"The golden state concepts baseball podcasts. We cover everything majorly from sprint tree. The world series. Got your favorite club. Cover from new york to boston to la. Vix is the golden state media concepts baseball podcast Everybody welcome back to the mc base podcast brought to you by the g. s. m. c. podcast network. I'm your host patrick kenny. And today we're going to be talking about the biggest story over the last few days. The trevor bauer signing to the los angeles dodgers. Then after that we're going to be taking a look at the free agency landscape seeing who signed wear who still left and who might not be signed and then in the third segment. We're going to be taking it to who might make the biggest impact on their team is gonna be trevor bauer. Could it be even a trade. That might be the biggest. We're gonna find out over there in that third segment and then finally in the final part of this podcast. We're going to be today discussing. What are the top ten baseball movies of all time. And of course i have a list. I guess you guys covered. Don't even worry about it. We're going to get into it right now and welcome in everybody to the gmc base podcast on everybody for coming and let's get right into this first segment where obviously discussing. Trevor bauer and his massive signing to the l. a. dodgers now a trevor. Bauer did this for a few reasons. one obviously being his home and i know that he has gone on record by saying that he didn't wanna sign a long term contract. And if. I'm remembering correctly which i should be that trevor. Bauer has player options on his second and third deal so the entire deal is worth Hundred and two million dollars and he is absolutely deserving a bet he just won the cy young award and helped make the reds a playoff contenders at least for that year and he was definitely a massive part of that now. The first year of his contract is about forty million dollars and in year two which he has a player option for is worth forty five million dollars and then you're three obviously is the rest of that one hundred and two million dollar deal now. I think it's obvious now that the dodgers just won the world series obviously are the overwhelming favourite to at least make it to the world series again if not ended up winning now. Trevor bauer think is going to be the number two behind walker. I don't know if he is going to be that opening day guy. He very well may be but at least what. Trevor bauer has shown us is the potential to be the reigning cy young award winner but he also has the potential to post a yara fix like he did just the year before with the reds and the indians as well and i think that walker bueller is a little bit more consistent than trevor bauer. And that's just because. I think that i mean. Obviously i don't know why he's. He's more consistent than trevor bauer. But trevor bauer seems to not have his best stuff every so often and it's because of that that he ends up. As i think the number two guy i think he is going to be the number. Two ahead of clayton kershaw just because kershaw is more toward the latter end of his career. And because of that. S why i think that trevor bauer is going to be the number two behind walker bueller. But that doesn't mean that the staff for the dodgers is any less impressive and i think that watching the dodgers and padres play is going to be must watch baseball just because of how talented those two teams are and i think that both of those teams are going to end up being at least at least competitive. I can definitely see the padres end up in the world series and baseball's weird like that stuff can go from one way or another with the swing of the bat and it's not always the pitchers fault and sometimes the hitter just gets lucky and some and that might be the difference between these two teams. Both of these two teams are stacked but before we discuss. How the dodgers and trevor bauer are going to match up with the padres. We also have to look out the east coast in. See the mets. And i think the trevor bauer one of the reasons that he chose the dodgers instead of the mets is because i think he does like that spotlight i think if he i think he thinks that it's going to be easier for him to try. And get the number starting ace role for the dodgers instead of the mets. Just because the mets have noah syndergaard and they also have jacob degrom. And i think that degrom has proven to be a better pitcher than trevor. Bauer over the last two years. And i think arguably that you could say that degrom maybe should have won the cy young last year. They might be doing in the mlb a sort of like. Oh we already know how good you are. Let's spread the wealth a little bit kind of thing like how a lot of are how lebron james and the nba was. The mvp was definitely the best player in the league but he went every single. Mvp or michael jordan in the ninety s. He was the best player in the league but he didn't always win the mvp. And i think that's. What is the situation happening with the mets end. In fact i think maybe even syndergaard is a more consistent in more consistently dominant than trevor bauer. And that's not to say that. Trevor bauer isn't good. I mean he just won the cy young. I just think that part of the reason that he decided to go to la other than it also being his home because he obviously grew up in la and he and he also went to ucla with gary cole. His arch-rival so to speak in new york. That might also be a another reason. You'd want to have to see garrett cole and live that close to maybe but i. I think that the mets are going to be fine without getting trevor bauer. I think that they've added a lot of good pieces. Obviously if they had been able to get. Trevor bauer would have made an important impact in how they were would would have been perceived but they the mets did trade for carlos carrasco in francisco door. And that's going to give the mets a third a really good third option. Maybe even a fourth option and the mets are definitely going to be good. They also signed. We'll get into this a little bit later. They also signed a trevor. May who is going to give them some very very much needed. Bullpen help. but let's bring it back to the dodgers. Trevor bauer against the padres and the padres have one of the best pitcher j shin's of all time and i would maybe say that i wouldn't necessarily say it's as good as As the cleveland indians Rotation just two years ago with corey. Kluber trevor bauer cleansers. Carlos carrasco and shane bieber. Just because all of those guys are just so good but with that being said the hydrates have added some weapons to their arsenal. Now they're not going to have mike clovinger this year because he has Tommy john and he's going to be rehabbing that throughout the year. I think there's a possibility that if they make the playoffs that he'll make an appearance here there but for the most part he's probably done for the season and because of that the padres aren't going to be as good. As if they had nightclub injure now they did add hugh darvish and blake snell in some pretty big deals that they got they had to give up a few pieces. But i think with who they already have on their team and the starting pitching that they just added. Hugh darvish had a great year last year. Obviously snell's one of the top pitchers in the league. It's going to be interesting to see how blake snow translates his game from the l. Where he's been his whole career with the raise to the nfl where he is gonna have to bat. He's going to have to face pitchers which are going to be a little bit easier to face than a guy who is literally paid money just to hit and because of that. I think it's going to be just just utter pandemonium when these teams take the field. And i know. I'm going to be watching almost every single game. That these guys these guys go out there and play but one of the things one reason. I think that trevor bauer went to los angeles specifically is because of his Social media company and his brand a momentum. And i think that it's it he chose la. Just because that's where you go to get that kind of thing done. Lebron james did it. That's one of the reasons that he chose the lakers. When he left cleveland second time he wanted to help build his brand and his his media company. And i think trevor bauer maybe saw that and was like. Hey at doesn't sound like too bad of a of an idea. I play for one of the most storied franchises in all of sports with the dodgers. And i'm in la so i get to help launch my media company and grow that company so much further and they have some really really interesting bits on online on youtube and stuff with watch momentum where trevor bauer one of them is called watch. Momentum's bauer bites and bauer and invites other players over and they discuss how they got to where they were when they first discovered their love for baseball when and what was the worst experience they had playing baseball. These kinds of things. And i think because of vat you end up with trevor bauer going to the dodgers and there are a number of reasons why trevor bauer shows the dodgers but signing that deal actually put the dodgers in a pretty tough place because the dodgers now are missing a key piece because of free agency not because of trevor bauer. But with that two hundred million dollars are over two hundred million dollars. I should say over the luxury that the that the dodgers are. It's going to make it really really hard for justin turner to re signed with the dodgers and now the dodgers have cam. They've come out and said that they want to resign Just turn just because of how key a pc is to how good they are. He's incredible defensively and especially offensively. But because the dodgers are so much over that luxury cap. It's hard to think that they're gonna wanna go much much more especially after the hits that they took in revenue every mlb team took major hits revenue because of covid and because they weren't allowing fans into the stadiums and things like that that every every major sports team in every sport league lost money and not a little bit of money either. They lost a lot of money but right now. The dodgers only have one active third baseman by the name of edwin. Ross and he's only had seventy six at bats in his entire career now. Do i think that that's necessarily a bad thing. Absolutely not you can find diamonds in the rough during spring training which might happen but i think the biggest part of the most interesting part about all that is if they don't sign justin turner and they don't they're not able to retain him he goes to the braves or the nationals or something like that that they're going to have a and the dodgers have had some major success with with their rookies. Take cory seager jack. Petersen yossi we for some reason when when the dodgers call up guys to the bigs as rookies they're ready to make an impact and maybe the dodgers have a guy that they can move to third base like maximum is at first base. they could move. max muncie over there and they could maybe move cody bellinger over the first base. He has played some first base for the dodgers in the past. But then they're looking at a whole maybe in the outfield so the dodgers definitely have options. They don't have to resign. Justin turner at all. And in fact. I don't necessarily expect them to maybe get a deal done. Just because turner's up there in age this is going to be his last real chance at getting good contract. And if if i were in that situation i think that i would have to go with the money after. I've already won the world series and i've done everything i want to accomplish. Maybe it's time to go in cash in just a little bit more than maybe he has in the past and because of that is just going to be very interesting to see if the dodgers are are going to find a another third basement or if they're gonna move somebody somewhere or what they're going to do. The one question. I do have though is are are they deep enough. What if what if somebody sustained a season ending injury was that gonna do to the dodgers hopes even if it's not one of their amazing pitchers what if it's not kershaw dustin may or trevor bauer or walker. What if it's somebody much more. Not i wouldn't say important but somebody that plays every day. What if instead of a relief getting hurt and missing a couple of days. What if it's max muncie. What if it's cory seager. What if it's mukhi bits. What are they gonna do then. Do they need more depth or do they do. They sign anybody else. It's it's gonna be interesting and every team has weaknesses and that's not necessarily a bad thing at all. It makes the game more exciting it but for right now i think the dodgers are in a very good place. I think the trevor bauer signing is incredible for them. I mean if he can keep up what he with the pace that he has been at other than maybe the twenty nine thousand nine season but maybe go back to the twenty sixteen season where he was a key part in the indians Trip to the world series where they only had two starting pitchers with corey kluber. Trevor bauer and then they had to have josh tomlin out there throwing six innings for them just because they were so hurt in pitching or if he is able to keep up his cy young stats from last season. It's gonna be interesting. I i'm really high on the dodgers and everybody else should be. I think that the dodgers are likely to win the west. I do think the padres have a real shot at winning that as well. I think the padres might have a better shot. If clemenger weren't hurt. I think that if clemenger weren't hurt and they had still made all of these signings and trades. I think that the padres might have been the favourite out in the west. But i think that because of the trevor bauer signing that it sort of shifts the pendulum back in into the dodgers favor and anything can happen baseball. Who knows the dodgers might not be able to find the strike zone on the mound and they might not be able to. You know hit water if they fell off a boat but as unlikely that is definitely going to be a. It's definitely going to be a fun season to watch them. I am very excited for the season. And i miss baseball so much. I know that everybody listening to the podcast. Also mrs baseball as much as i do. And it's it's fun to get excited about transactions like these. It's fun to get excited about the francisco endure and carlos carrasco trade to the mets. And then pretend like you're like you know how much that is going to impact one way or the other and it this is. This is so fun just to go over the transactions but at the end of the day. It's it's still the athletes on the field but have to make the that have to make the place. They have to do everything that they can so that they can win the world series. And who knows maybe the squad that the rockies put together out west are going to be the best team baseball has ever seen a. It's all it all really just depends on what happens on the field and because of that. It's it's going to be a fun season especially out in the west now. Don't go anywhere we're going to take a short break in. Just a few moments were also going to go over the free agency landscape. Who is left. Who went where we're gonna discuss some trades Specifically the mets trade to our for francisco indoor and carlos carrasco which have already mentioned a couple times where you're gonna mention. Trevor bauer a little bit. But for the most part were going to be asking who is what the free agency landscape who might not get signed who might get signed to should get signed and then after that segment we're going to discuss what free agent signing was the most important or will be the most important and finally. I have the top ten baseball movies of all time. Now this is my list and everybody is entitled to their own opinion. But i do gotta say i think i put together pretty good list Let me know in the comments and everything what you guys think regis on twitter Subscribe to ass- on youtube all of that fun stuff and we'll be right back in just a moment. This is your ultimate staffer. Everything sports the golden state media concepts or podcast. Should i say more from the nfl. Mel beat the nba. To 'em it's all in here. The golden state media concepts sports podcasts. Listen now just at this all right everybody. Welcome back to the g. s. m. c. based podcast. The podcast all about major league baseball and in this segment right here. We're going to be talking about the free agency landscape. We're going to try and see who has signed who has yet to sign. And we're just going to get right into it right here. So the first player that. I really want to talk about is george springer. George springer obviously a all world athlete. He is fantastic and he recently just left the houston astros to sign with the toronto blue jays. The thirty one center fielder signed a one hundred and fifty million dollar deal to go there and he has gone on record saying that he decided to go to the blue jays because they're built to win am. I think it's definitely an interesting choice. I mean obviously. The money is one of the biggest. If not the biggest reason to go from houston to toronto and i think that that signing is going to be really really important for them in the future especially spring can keep his numbers where they art ever since breaking into the lee and twenty fourteen. He has been an absolute stud defensively and so so so important offensively for the astros. He was vital to them winning in He was excuse me vital to them winning the world series a few years ago and because of his loss chew him leaving the astros. I should say it. Leaves a big hole in the outfield for the astros and the astros did recently resigned. Michael brantley as well to a thirty one million dollar deal and that is going to keep the bat of michael brantley in the offense but he hasn't necessarily play too much defence lately. Ns because he does have a big history injuries and when he was with the indians the reason that they didn't sign him and the indians have actually had a lot of trouble in the outfield. They've been struggling to find. Decent outfielders for the last few years is because michael brantley. Was there left fielder. And after a while he just couldn't get onto the field anymore and that is a huge huge reason that the indians decided to let brantley go. And i think that the astros definitely took a hit there but i think that they will still bounce back the astros have a fantastic organization and they they have a lot of talent still even with l. Treve getting up there. And with michael brantley being up there and them having that grinky who is also up in the up in the age category as as well now the next guy that i wanna talk about is out on simmons and he was so fantastic for the angels. He's and they'll be ranked tam the number one. Sorry excuse me. Mlb network and all of them over there ranked him as the number one shortstop there now. Personally i don't know if he is number one but he is definitely the best defensive player in the game right now without without a doubt. He is the best defensive shortstop in the game. And as we know all too clearly especially Ranger fans That defense is is such a big part of the game a few years ago. I'm making a callback. Who were the raiders. Were just a couple of outs away from making it to another world series. If i'm remembering correctly and they and their mvp their slugger their center fielder josh hamilton. Just didn't look a ball in and they ended up losing that next that game and they ended up losing the series. The rangers haven't been back there since they haven't just haven't been where they were and out on simmons just signed with the twins and i think that's going to be a big signing for them especially because they've lost a few key pieces especially trevor may out of the bullpen Trevor may who signed with the new york mets. And we'll get into the mets just a little bit Ah but trevor may is was a huge part of of their team. Any recently signed a decent deal with the new york mets to come out of the bullpen forum. And i think that's going to help out the mets incredibly as well. Marcus stroman re-signed with the mets After being traded there in the in this past season but it is going to be interesting to see where where people go Michael wasco was with the mets. And now he signed a deal with the rays. Adam wainwright is still available. It's going to be interesting to see where he goes if he still says. What the cardinals. He has a huge history of injuries. And that's kind of been his downfall because for a long time especially when he first got into league he was one of the best pitchers in the league in injuries and everything like that has just damaged his his production and it does with so many other people and the next guy i want to talk about is Dj lamaze you. Who resigned with the yankees. A lot of big big free agents are going to new york whether it's the mets or the yankees Lamaze you just signed with the yankees a few Few days ago and he signed a very big contract for the thirty two year old second baseman and that contract is worth about ninety million dollars but lemay hughes production offensively is what got him that contract but i think the most interesting sign for the yankees is the signing of former rangers and former cy young winner for the cleveland indians. Corey kluber corey. Kluber signed an eleven million dollar deal just a few days ago as well. Obviously free agency is is not that old but pitchers and catchers report in less than a week and it's going to be incredibly interesting to see who signs wear. What pitchers are still available. And where they're going to end up ed if they're going to be if they're late siamese to to spring training who is going to be ready for the season and who's gonna need a few weeks to get back into the game a another huge free agents that hasn't signed though is in kennedy and In kennedy has had a fantastic career. I with the diamondbacks now Recently with the royals and he has made a very smooth transition from the starting pitchers role to now a relief pitcher and He has been very effective for the royals the last few years. He still free agent so we don't know where he's going to sign. It is kinda likely that he might resign with the royals. If they can get the money beat worked out although he is up as she is thirty six years old and because of that it does make it harder for people to be signed I mean once you get up to that age if you don't already have a big deal in place that teams are already paying for you. You're not going to get the deals that you were getting just a couple of years ago. Just because production in baseball specifically tends to fall off so dramatically that there's nothing there's nothing more to give the these owners don't have the faith that you're going to be able to live up to a four year thirty five million dollar contract if you're thirty eight years old and that that's just not going to happen. People aren't going. The owners aren't going to make that deal because that production isn't going to be there like howie. Kendrick is still free agent for the nationals. But he's listed as a da. She's thirty seven years old and he was so important to them winning the world series two years ago but at the same time. He's thirty seven and it's it's going to be harder and harder for guys like him to be signed is going to be harder for people like john. Lester does get sign even though he did. Just sign a one year contract with the nationals. Now people like derek holland who are thirty four but have had the career that they looked to have when they were very young. Derek colin of course starting with the texas rangers had a fantastic run with the rangers for a very long time back in the early two or twenty tens and late when the rangers were one of the best teams in baseball. He's just not going to get the money that he probably could have gotten. Had his career gone in a different way just because of his age people know who he is. Now and that's not a slight against against david Air jesse sees york holland. It's not a slight against him at all is just people know who he is. He's no longer that eights that that you were going to look for much like king felix Dare colin i'm sorry it was just the pirates but kink felix felix hernandez was is a thirty four year old pitcher who was last with the braves and i think right now he might get a He might get a minor league deal but if he gets minor league deal that doesn't guarantee that he's going to make the big leagues ninety nine for a team like the orioles and the orioles. Just they just haven't been good the last few years so it doesn't so they're going to have to basically rebuild their entire farm system until they can get a bunch of good pieces in place so i don't expect too many big signings to come out of baltimore just because i think the last big signing they had was jonathan. Vr and He just wasn't very like he was. He was good for them but he he didn't make enough of a difference. That one person isn't going to turn the baltimore orioles around and as tough as that is to hear. That's just what it is in unfortunately for bo for oriole fans it. It's hard to to carry about a team. That just isn't where they should be now. Cesar hernandez is another guy. I wanna talk about Caesar and end is actually just re-signed with the indians He is likely going to be playing second base again. Although the indians do find themselves at a whole insurance at shortstop because of that huge blockbuster trade that the indians had with the mets to get For the mets to get francisco lindor and carlos. Cookie roscoe and i think that is one of the biggest teams this year and i know you guys have already heard me talk about the mets. But i'm really high on the mattress because how many moves. They've made they have a depth at they have a really good bullpen depth. They'll let me. I try not to get ahead of myself here. But they they have a good high-powered offense their starting pitching is just phenomenal with a trio of degrom syndergaard and now bauer and then throw in carlos carrasco who is therefore four starter. Carlos carrasco obviously at the beginning of last season was the number three starter on the indians. And you're now making him the number four. I think that that is going to be so hard to be. If the mets can stay healthy. I will almost take them in any series that they put that they go up against just because of how good their pitching is. And they're so good at defense as well now especially with the glove of francis. Lynn door a another huge signing that. We're going to be looking at today is the J a happ signing hap- signed Wish the twins just a few weeks ago From the yankees. Although he is thirty eight years old. I think it does fill the void that the twins need if he can still be as productive as he was on the excuse me on the yankees if he can still be as good as he was. I think that the twins have a really good shot at repeating on winning the al central now a good read signing is didi gregorious. Dd just resigned for two year deal with the phillies and just like jt. Muto who is another huge shining the phillies have the phillies. Have been are have been able to keep their guys this year and that is very important because if the longer that these guys are playing together the better chemistry that they're going to and it's going to it's going to reflect on the field and the phillies were close last year. I think if they put together a few pieces last year was weird season though because of covid a lot of tea. A lot of games ended up not being played that should have been played But a couple of guys on one team may have gotten covid like the mariners for example are a huge were huge underdog story last year. I can't. I can't even believe that they were even in the playoffs. It was it was. It was almost absurd because of how good that they actually wert and part of that is because they missed a lot of their games early in the season and they were missing half. They're team at one point because of covert and we're going to see some of that this year we're going to see a few game cancellations. We're gonna see a few players miss a week or two but with this season hopefully to be as long as a normal season one hundred sixty two game season. And maybe not. With an all star game will obviously. Mlb be is going to try to have the all star game. Because that's that's where the money is. And if i'm sorry i'm getting off track guys at. I'm sorry about that. But the mariners beat out the phillies last year for that wildcard spot because of of who they who they played and who they didn't play they got out of few games and they won a couple of tight games. And that's really just how baseball goes in general now before i end this segment. I want to talk about justin. Turner is the biggest free agent. That has left. And it's gonna be interesting to see where he goes because he is up there in age but he's still incredibly productive now. The dodgers have blown past the luxury tax threshold by over two hundred million dollars. But the dodgers still want to get turner before he obviously before he would sign somewhere else. But i don't know if the dodgers wanna go over that luxury tax anymore than they already have. Now i've heard of the braves. I've heard the nationals I heard the blue jays but that was before that they signed george springer. I've heard the raise personally. I don't expect turner to re-sign just. Because i don't know if the dodgers can work out that money turner is nearing the end of his His prime at the age of thirty seven. Which is kind of crazy to say but i i don't know if the dodgers can afford somebody of his talent now if he goes to the braves that would increase their offense by a lot. They ranked in the low twenties last year in offense but they are very good defensive team and he would help to that as well and i think the braves need most right now is obviously obviously some some hitting production and that is absolutely what turner has has john in his career. He is absolutely destroyed. The baseball Now The the other team and the team that i think would be the best fit for him. Is is the nationals. I think that he would be a great fit with that squad they have trai turner want soto kyle shorebridge josh bell startling castro yang gums victor robe blaze and a decent pitching staff. I think that if justin turner goes there he would fill the void that i think he would fill the spot that anthony don't had when they won the world series and i think that i think is the best spot for him. I think that they have the best. The i don't think they have the most money. I think obviously the raise or the braves could offer him more. But i think that the best fit for him would be the nationals. Now i also wanna talk about jackie. Bradley jr. who is the thirty one thirty one year old center fielder from the from boston. He's looking to get a four year deal. I don't know if he can get it but if he can get it and re signed with boston. I would definitely make boston. Fans a lot happier than when they traded when they traded. Mookie betts just about a year ago a year or so ago before the last season and the dodgers obviously re signed him to a massive deal. this past year as well The final person that i want to get into is yasser yelp week and you of we is a- took a long time to get signed last year. He had an okay season last year. Wasn't great but it wasn't awful. I think that it is unlikely that he's going to be signed until i would say around. Maybe late april early. May and i think that he. I think that teams are going to see who they have in the outfield and who they want to put in the outfield and if they're really lacking on offense they might go with yasser. Gop even though he does he has had some issues in the past Off the field issues but since Getting demoted a few years ago. And then coming back to the league. He hasn't really had that much off the field that many off field issues. I should say. But i don't know if he's a high enough high enough priority because he is he is expensive. He wasn't all-star. He is a heck of a player and if he ends up going to the fans getting signed. I i don't know if it if the teams that are willing to sign him are going to necessarily want to put him in front of their young guys who are just now getting into their own They're just getting their own reps and things like that in the next segment we're going to be looking at what free agent signing or what. 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Follow us on facebook and and download us on itunes soundcloud and google play and welcome back everybody to the s. mc base podcast brought to you by the g. s. m. c. podcast network in this segment. Right here we're gonna talk about what free agent signings and or what trade basically what acquisition was the best. And we're going to go over a few teams here and just see who who is going to make the best improvement to their new team. Now we're gonna start off in the central. The cubs signed it. Jack peterson to a one year. Seven million dollar deal and they this signing necessarily isn't that exciting but i think with the cubs loss of kyle schwarzer in the offseason as well that it's going to they have that offensive output back. He is an absolute monster of hitter. And i think that he actually gives the cubs a little bit better. Defensive output In the outfield and than Did now next team we're going to talk about is the reds. They signed sean doolittle to a one year one. Half million dollar contract and doolittle had a rough year of rough year last season in washington. But that's a lot of pitchers at a lot of players had down years and for a lot of teams it was. It was hard to get into the rhythm because they started spring training and then all of a sudden they couldn't have spring training anymore and and it was just hard especially for pitchers At the beginning of the year the back to where they were which is what makes. Trevor bauer performance last year as As well as Shane bieber for the cleveland indians. How dominant they were and how they were able to stay. Ready is super super impressive. Now they also signed the reds. Signed a deal gordon To a minor league deal but if he if the redskins get some decent output out of Dee gordon then that is all. That's going to help them off. Offensively that he has a career batting average of over Over to eighty. I believe and if if the reds can get that offensive output out of him. That's going to help them. The reds struggled in two huge huge huge spots last year in that was bullpen. Pitching and getting guys on base If i believe that they had the worst batting average as a team to ever make the playoffs and that is second to only the cubs of or no. I believe actually excuse me That the cubs were second only to the reds all time of the worst batting averages and wanting that didn't have a bad batting average last year was the saint louis cardinals and the saint. Louis cardinals may recently made a trade to go and grab nolan aeronautica from the colorado rockies and it looks like the rockies are definitely gonna be sellers there are definitely gonna try and rebuild now there. It looks like they're gonna hang onto trevor story for at least a little bit. They might get rid of them. They might not. It might just be one of the decisions that they've decided to choose. Trevor story over Nolan are not in. I think this makes the cardinals a lot. More dangerous definitely think they're the favourite to win the nfl central at. I mean i just don't see the reds with them losing trevor bauer and and then not having just that that number one guy i mean they have they have louis custodio and they have sunny gray wade miley. And that's a great great lineup. But at the same time you don't have the guy who just won the cy young and with how bad they were of last year. I don't necessarily see them scoring enough runs with the rest of the bullpen. To win enough games to outpace the cardinals and anything can happen as just. I don't see that as as i don't see that as likely as i do. The cardinals just winning the division outright. I and the next thing we're we're gonna talk about. We're going to go out west and we're going to go to the west and we're gonna talk about the arizona diamondbacks pickup of joakim soria. The diamondbacks definitely needed a closer. They have a lot of problems They're they're definitely gonna rebuild phase. They had a couple really really strong years. Where they were in contention and they could never put it together. they're always a couple of pieces away but the signing of walking story for a one year contract for about three and a half million dollars is a good signing for them when they can get the lead and keep the lead. And i mean last year a they were notorious for blowing their saves. It's it is what it is but now they have joakim soria who's a fantastic closer and should be fantastic for them the next trade or excuse me the next acquisition we're gonna talk about is the trevor bauer signing to the dodgers now last year. Obviously they last offseason. I should say. They traded for mookie betts and then they went and will won the world series and then they added the reigning and l. Cy young award winner to probably be there number two. If we're going to be honest. I think walker buehler's still going to be their number one and i think clayton kershaw is going to be a good number three for them. But trevor bauer think might be able to win out that opening day spot. But i wouldn't go that far as to guarantee it. Especially after how amazing walker. Bueller has the last few seasons now. Now we're gonna go and move toward the padres and the padres have a very interesting team right now. So let's go over some of the moves that they made this offseason so the first thing that they do was declined. The one year option for mitch moreland which freed up cap space and then might clemenger agreed to a two year one and a half or excuse me eleven and a half million dollar extension which buys out his remaining years arbitrary action and then after that they went and signed a utility outfielder. Greg garcia and tommy fan also has arbitration rights with san diego. They traded for blake. Snell sending catcher francisco mahia to the raise. The raise definitely know what they're doing with pitchers. I think they're going to be fine. I think they've viewed that blake's now is worth getting rid of for the hall that they got they got to pitching prospects a catching a catching prospect and francisco mahia. Who's ready to go with the bat. Now he hasn't been great in his time in the bigs yet but he is still young and he has a lot of time to develop they also traded for hugh darvish and they gotta catch your back because they just got rid of one of their catchers and they sent a few prospects to the cubs for hugh darvish now. Let's go over that pitching lineup right now. Now obviously might clovinger is going to be out for the season he just recently after signing that contract extension. He ended up getting tommy john surgery. And he's gonna miss all of the twenty twenty one season but they still have one heck of a pitching rotation they have hugh darvish blake snow. Joe musk rose chris. Paddack chris paddack if you don't remember was arguably the best pitcher on the padres at the start of last season and then they traded for might clovinger may a few deals in the padres are gearing up for one heck of a run they also have a decent lumet who last season pitched almost one hundred eighty innings with a seventeen or excuse me thirteen and seven record posting a three two three three two era with over two hundred strikeouts and just over sixty walks. That's gonna be one heck of a pitching rotation and then next season if they can retain a lot of these guys and get clovinger back watch out because they are going to be so fun to watch but now we gotta go over to the al. And i we're going to start off with the blue jays signing of george springer to a six year one hundred and fifty million dollar contract now. The blue jays have a great great young team. It's it's pretty pretty ridiculous. How accurate that young team isn't how talented. They are with vladimir guerrero. Junior ed's so many other players ed but the blue jays with this signing had proven that they are all in right now that this signing might make the blue jays the favorite in the al east because while the yankees are always going to be good the red sox last year. Took one of the biggest steps back that i've ever seen In part of that was just because they weren't healthy and that that is a very good reason for for for there to sort of fall off. And i don't necessarily think that they fell off too much Other than just not being healthy the next signing that i want to talk about is the boston red sox's garrett richards now. The red sox definitely struggled of with starting pitching last year and him signing to the red sox is gonna give them a little bit more stability. He signed a one year ten million dollar contract and because of his signing. I think that the red sox could potentially get a wildcard bid if they come back healthy and if they perform to what they were at just a couple of years ago when they were world series contenders and we're gonna go from boston now to their hated rival the new york yankees the new york. Yankees signed corey. Kluber and corey kluber for the last. Few seasons has had some injury issues in texas and few injury issues when he was still with the tribe in cleveland but i think that his signing there is going to give them a decent number two or even a number a number three if kluber can come back healthy and be near where he was when he won his two. Cy youngs with the with the cleveland indians. It's it's gotta be huge behind garrett cole and potentially bind luis severino and potentially above james talian and the yankees obviously resigned a dj lemay q. And they still have aaron judge they still have giancarlo stanton. They still have As they still have. Clint frazier errant. Dick's gary sanchez. And that offense is definitely not the problem and with the kluber signing. I think that it is going to give them the best option for a solid number to a solid middle of the guy rotation that is going to get you some key wins here in there and now we're gonna go to the ale central. We're not gonna talk that much about the al west. I don't think that they had many signing or had many decent signings. I don't expect much to come out of the west. I'm going to be honest. But the al central has had some very very interesting Shakeups the cleveland indians Obviously lost out a with the lindores trade. They're going to miss him. They have a decent lineup still but they also traded away carlos carrasco the got a lot of prospects in return but the biggest signing for them and biggest acquisition for them was getting eddie rosario from the twins obviously he was a free agent. But they're still taking away from their toughest competition over the last few years and filling one of the biggest needs that they had which is absolutely the outfield they have had a revolving door out there in the outfield for the last. Probably five years ever since michael brantley started yet hurt toward his toward the end of his tenure in cleveland. They haven't had very much stability out there. They've traded for a couple of filters in years. Past with jay bruce and with ucf week and that has ignited some sparks. But i don't know if the indians are still there. I don't know if the indians still need are still just that one piece away just that one out away like they were for a few years. But i do think that it's going to give him some really good stability eddie. Rosario is fantastic outfielder. And he's going to give them a lot a lot. A lot of stability in the outfield. And that's what the indians really need right. Now they're going to be good offensively. They still have jose ramirez. They still have roberto perez. They did lose carlos santana. And we're gonna talk about that in just a second but even with that loss. They're still going to have a decent offense. They're going to steal a lot of bases the season. They're going to get a lot of extra base hits. I think they're going to play a lot of small ball with tito francona at the head. Of what is the cleveland indians right now. He is a fantastic manager. Obviously is one of the great staff and hall of famer and i. I think it's going to be interesting to see how he deals with the loss of such a key piece like francisco door and with some and the loss of one of the best bullpen arm or best arms in baseball still even though he is now probably a two or three maybe even four carlos correa sco was still dominant and still very very good at what he does. Which is why the mets wanted him. And i think that he's going to be a good acquisition for the mets as well Next we're gonna go to. The royals huge signed carlos santana. He signed a to your seventeen and a half million dollar contract with them. The royals definitely needed an on base sky. And if there's one thing that carlos santana does is he has one of the best is of the game. He takes walks. He doesn't force what he isn't force a swaying. If he knows that it's better for him to get on base. He'll he takes pitches. He gets on base. And that's exactly what the royals needed any provides. Really good defense out there if they have at first base if they have met d. h. Then he's going to do fantastic is going to absolutely fantastic on with the. I expect great things from him. There and the final team that i wanna talk about in this segment right here is the twin signing algernon simmons. The twins needed a shortstop so bad and they got the best defensive shortstop in in the leak the he signed a one year. Ten and a half million dollar deal Simmons obviously leaving from the angels to come to the twins. And i think now that the twins have the best shortstop in the al central. Now in it. I don't think it's even close. I mean he's not gonna hit a lot of home runs. The twins are still going to hit so many home runs. It might be a little bit less because the mlb mlb is changing The ball a little bit for this upcoming season to try and reduce the home runs and try and make the game a little bit more exciting. But nevertheless i think it's going to be very impressive to see what they do And i in my opinion. I think the twins are the best team in the central right now. I think the white sox are still good but it. The white sox and indians are going to clearly be tier two and the twins are be the gold standard in that division. At least for the next few years and things can change the indians the indians or the white sox might make a few trades and win a few games here there that they might not otherwise weighing and end up winning the division. We don't know. But i have a special treat for you guys in the next segment. We're going to go over the top ten baseball movies of all time. You're ready want to know the latest and soccer. That listen to the golden state media concept soccer podcasts from m. l. s. world the premier. Li got you covered a latest update hottest matches news on the league's top players. It's the golden state media concept soccer. Podcasts listen down everybody and welcome back to the moment that you have all been waiting for my top ten baseball movies of all time. Now i have a few honorable. Mentions and i'm probably going to give them out around number bef- before number two. I might throw a couple of honorable. Mentions in there But let's just let's get into it so number ten. I have mr three thousand now. That's a bernie mack. Movie very funny plays for the milwaukee brewers and the movie starts out as him being one of the best baseball players of all time. He gets his two thousandth hit of his career and then just retires on the spot immediately after the game. He's like i'm done. I don't wanna be here anymore. And then he goes and opens a whole brand in milwaukee Called mr three thousand. And he has a bar called. Mr three thousand he has a couple of car dealerships. If i'm remembering correctly and ultimately he ends up finding out that one of his games was recorded twice in he only actually had three hits than he originally thought so he had one thousand nine hundred ninety seven career hits and because of that he ended up coming back i believe near the age of forty And the brewers at the time in in the movie they weren't very good so they brought him back sort of publicity stunt and he ends up only getting two hits the rest of the season and ends up rebranding everything as a the one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine brand and he ends up falling in love with a reporter and they live happily ever after so on the movie ends. So that's mr three thousand at number nine. I have forty two. And i wanted to put this higher but i just have such respect for the rest of the movies on this list that that i couldn't end chadwick. Boseman was fantastic. As jackie robinson and harrison ford was incredible as branch rickey the former of the dodgers organization and the movie is your so well made a captures everything not everything because you can't capture everything that jackie robinson went through but i think it does a really good job a at showing how he was dealing with everything that he was going through at the beginning of his career and ultimately it's one of the best baseball movies one of my favorite movies of all time just because of of how amazing that the story was and now my number. Eight movie is It's an interesting choice. I think. I chose eight men out as my eighth favorite baseball movie. Just because sees me as no yes as my eighth movie. I apologize them. Have trouble reading my own list right here but it amen at number eight and it follows the shadow white sox who then became infamously known as the chicago black sox and essentially what the movie goes over is how everybody on or not everybody but a lot of players on the chicago. White sox decided to money from the mob because the mob was betting heavily on the reds because the reds were such underdogs so they decided to fix the games and give a lot of money to the players who at the time. Were actually kinda underpaid. They worked sort. They worked regular jobs in the off season. And a lotta guys actually worked regular jobs. During the season the owners paid them a okay wage but wasn't what they needed for. How often they travel for their training. A lot of guys were living in super small apartments. They showed in the movie. But the reason that. I put this high on my list. And it's not an honorable mention. The movie showed that shoeless. Joe jackson didn't take any money but the owners. And the mob and the brand new commissioner needed a a fog. I and they supposedly did a investigation. Erin an investigation. And because of their investigation they banned eight players for life and one of those being shoeless joe jackson and nobody really ever heard from shoeless joe jackson ever again and it's kind of a sad story Just because he aided do everything right in fact he was the best player in the series and they still banned him essentially for for his his colleagues his colleagues doings in and then throwing the game and all that's a pretty sad story and that's But that's that's why it's on the list at number eight and number seven on. This list is a very fun movie. It's super fun. And it shows that girls are just as capable of doing anything that a guy can do. And that's one of the best aspects of this movie. It's also super funny. It's a league of their own at number seven and it has such a great cast has geena davis tom. Hanks madonna lori. Petty rosie o'donald. John love it so many great actors and actresses and basically. If you aren't familiar with the movie it's take place during world war. Two where a lot of major league baseball players and a lot of young men who probably would've been playing in the major league in the major leagues right there at that specific point in time. We're obviously overseas fighting. So they decide to get a the. The these baseball owners decided to make a baseball team in baseball league for for women. And it's such a good movie. They the league only ran for a couple years because the war ended and they ended up going back with with men but these things that these women did were amazing and it brought people back together it gave people and escape for a few minutes in real life. And i think this movie is very good. It's very good to the women who who forfeited a lot to be in that in that spot and it also gave us a one of the one of the greatest lines in in baseball movie history. There's no crying in baseball. Where tom hanks's is yell at the girls and it That's that's one of the best. The best scenes in in in baseball movie history now number six is a personal favourite and so is number five and i don't think you're gonna see a lot of of of list that have these movies on On on the list in any aspect ninety even in an honorable mention and number six is the final season and in the final season. It looks at this Super small town of norway iowa and their school is going to be merging with their rival school after this following season. And they're going to have a joint baseball team and the the movie follows a high school team trying to win state in the final year so basically when the school announces that they're going to be merging with another school. They're their nationally recognized and actually the national coach of the year leaves norway and his assistant coach kent stock Played by shawn austin Who was wasn't this is not the time but ends up getting that job and they follow the whole movie To the whole movie odds against him. They're facing a major league prospect in the national earn. Sees me in the state championship game. He was throwing high nineties and these kids have never seen high ninety just like that before they ended up before the game actually going and getting some of their dirt because they're from there some of the dirt from their field because they're never going to get to play there ever again even the guys who were returning not even the seniors so they go there and they all have dirt and they get to the field and they put their dirt on the state championship field and in it sort of becomes their their home game and they end up winning the state championship. And it's really good. Feel good story has an amazing cast And just one of the most underrated. I think baseball movies of all time. And that brings us to number five. And i think is the most underrated movie of all time then at least in in in the baseball since it is without a doubt. Sixty one is one of my favorite baseball movies of all time. It follows the home run race between mickey mantle and mirrors and in nineteen sixty one babe. Ruth had the home run record. it wasn't mark. Maguire wasn't barry bonds. It wasn't sammy sosa. And babe ruth had hit sixty home runs and in the but in the sixty one season they extended the the schedule two hundred sixty two games and so roger maris had a little bit of extra time to get that last couple of home runs during the home run race and in rogers entire career while he was in Excuse me roj his entire career when he was in new york it was. He was always in the shadow of mickey mantle. Everything heated great. The fans and media. There couldn't enjoy it and he won a couple. Mvp's and one in one in new york and the home run race between him and mansell who were really good friends and they actually had their actually roommates together. At least they were in the movie. And because of the media's portrayal of roger marris and how the fans hated him because it's mickey mantle's town there can't be a bigger star than mickey mantle which is just so crazy to me because any time at your team adds such good player. Mvp caliber player. An absolute stud. Should be happy excited for me. Didn't cause any problems off the field. He just did what he he just lived his life the field and then on the field he played baseball and he did it very well. And the movie follows. The movie follows the home. Run chase and mickey mantle ends up getting hurt toward the end of the race and ends up getting knocked out of the the home run race because he couldn't finish the rest of the regular season and maria's ends up hitting his sixty sixtieth home run. I believe bef- right before what would have been the last game of the season for babe ruth but he didn't hit another his last one until the last regular season game and he hit his sixty first and at the time people were very happy about it but the owner. Excuse me. the commissioner's office decided to put an asterisk next to it because he hit more games than babe ruth and because of that asterix marriage never got the credit he deserved. And i i just think that's. That's just so common in baseball. Nowadays baseball purists hate change and they hate new stuff. They want everything to be the way that it was. And it's not things things change and in in my in my eyes. That's one of the biggest May most egregious things to happen. Is that roger. Marris didn't get the credit that he deserved deserve quite a bit more credit and now number in a number four. it's moneyball moneyball is law. it's so good. Such good movie has brad pitt and jonah hill and they just cover the one of the best movies of all time and one of the stories of all time where the oakland a.'s. Were trying to do something different. Try to reinvent the wheel a little bit where they tried to find guys who would get them when they were basically trying to buy wins and it doesn't work out for him in the end but it is a great movie in a great ride now. Number three is. The second is my second favorite baseball. Movie with kevin costner. in it. it's bull durham. And a lot of people rank pulled their own number one. I think you can go any with any combination of these of my top. Three movies bull. Durham is about a catcher. Who is in the minor leagues. He's had a minor league career for a short period of time and he is brought in to you. Catch this young hotshot kid and he is. I mean it's a classic. What what can you say about it. It's it's fantastic. And i'm not gonna say too much about it because most baseball fans already know this movie It's a classic. Has susan serandon in it and it's it's such a just such a good good movie and at number two. We have the field of dreams. And i know you're gonna say how is it not number one. My bias might be showing a little bit here but kevin costner's Field is magnificent. I actually got to go there when i was younger. Kid i got to play baseball on the actual field of dreams. It was so cool. It was one of the coolest experiences in my life. And i'm never gonna forget it. And the movie follows kevin coster in general jones and they basically find these these ghosts who need a place to play and i mean that's that's it is. It's such a good movie. And people think that kevin conyers crazy until he builds it and then everybody shows up to see these ghosts play. They see shoeless. Joe jackson they see kevin costner's characters dad and he gets to have a catch with his dad one more time and that. If that doesn't make you cry. I i really don't know what will and i have. A few honorable mentions before. I get some i number one pick. I have angels in the outfield the rookie rookie of the year. I have cobb. The babe i also have. The bench warmers the perfect game and little big league and hardball in there. So many good baseball movies. But i gotta say that my number one all time. Baseball movie has got to be major league. Major league is so good it gives you. Bob euchre gives you charlie sheen. Oh my gosh. It gives you wesley. Snipes it it's so good. Oh my goodness in and i. I'm showing my cleveland indian bias. Here i am a tribe fan and in because of that. That's probably why the movies number one. But i think it's just so funny i think it's it follows such a good premise about a team at a city. That hasn't won anything for a very long time. They finally get that in in major league and the movie came out in the mid to late. Eighties and cleveland still had away another thirty years before they even got a championship and that wasn't even a baseball championship. Were a football super bowl. It was it was a basketball championship and the indian still still. Haven't they've made it to the world series. Obviously they had probably the best world series of all time between the cubs. It went to game seven extra innings. There was a rain delay. Oh oh my gosh. But indeed fans still don't have that yet they. They're still longing for that. And i think that this movie they to are the closest thing that indian fans are gonna get for for a while and and that sad but at the same time it it definitely is is interesting. I think that this movie is just well. Rounded has a good as a great comedic performance in it is dramatic in. You also get the the love story and it just. I think it's just such a good movie that you can't not have on your list. If not definitely number one. And i know a lot of guys and a lot of people have the sandlot up there. And they have hardball up there. Or the bench warmers or bad news bears and the list goes on and there's so many there's just so many great baseball movies out there that it's hard to pick a number one and i i don't love ranking stuff anyway. I think that you know especially like you know. Cross pollination cross sports rankings and stuff like that and i just like to appreciate the greatness while it's thicker and and for that. I think that the major league baseball is is my number one movie but let me know Rados on apple podcasts. Gmc based podcast and Comment if you're listening on youtube Swedish at twitter Let us know what your top baseball movies are. I want to thank everybody for listening to the gmc base pot baseball. Podcast brought to you by the gmc podcast network. 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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 421: Don Sutton Condolences, George Springer Signs, Jared Porter Fired

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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 421: Don Sutton Condolences, George Springer Signs, Jared Porter Fired

"Golden state concepts baseball podcasts. We cover everything major league from sprint train to the world series. Got your favorite club. Cover from new york to boston to elan. This is the golden state media. Concepts baseball podcast. Hello and welcome in to another edition of the gsm. See baseball podcast brought to you by the mc podcast network. I'm your host kevin mahalick. It is thursday january twenty first. Hopefully everybody's having a great week out there. We got a great show lined up for you here today a lot to discuss. Unfortunately we're gonna start off with some bad news. Twenty twenty one has started similarly to twenty twenty. And we've had the passing of another hall of fame pitcher don sutton to discuss. But after that. We'll get into george springer new contract with the blue jays. What does that mean for. The blue jays the mets the angels the rest of the free agent market. We then have to discuss some breaking news out of new york. The general manager who was recently hired only about a month ago. Well he has been fired for some explicit photos that we'll talk about what that means for new york and moving forward and then we'll wrap up the episode with all the latest news rumors other signings everything that's taken place out there across major league baseball but thanks for tuning in today like i mentioned rate and review the podcast sheriff's with your friend but let's jump on in so condolences. Go out to the sutton family. Don sutton hall of fame pitcher for the los angeles dodgers playing a total of twenty three seasons across major league baseball and man. It's it's just unfortunate unfortunate to be a dodgers fan right now. Because tommy lasorda passed away a few weeks ago and like i mentioned twenty twenty one not doing us any favors here three weeks into the year but diving into a little bit more information about don sutton. He pitched from the years. Nineteen sixty six through nineteen eighty eight for a total of twenty three seasons. I believe he had one season off in there. If i remember reading correctly but ultimately put together a very very impressive resume with a couple of different tidbits here. That are quite interesting in reference to today's style of game so sutton passed away at the age of seventy five. He was battling cancer and cancer. We all know somebody who has been affected by it. whether it's ourselves our friends our family. We know that flight in that battle aunt it looks like don unfortunately was unable to win that battle here at the age of seventy five but he was inducted to the hall of fame in nineteen ninety eight four time all star. He was also an all star game. Mvp and he has an era title to his name here moving forward but diving into some more statistics and kinda year-by-year. You guys know how i like to do. Some research and talk through these guys careers because you know myself being born in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. Don sutton hung them up right before. I came into this world. So let's see career record. He was three hundred and twenty. Four wins to two hundred and fifty six losses. Now those three hundred twenty four wins obviously puts him in that three hundred win club that everybody likes to get into and only twenty four individuals have ever made it that far so three hundred twenty four wins certainly a great accomplishment. He had a career era of three point. Two six which is certainly fascinating for the number of games that he pitched in as well as started and his game started of seven hundred and fifty six actually puts him third all time on. This game started last. Which i wouldn't have even known don sutton could be on that list. Twenty three years seven hundred and fifty six starts. He is only behind cy. Young and nolan ryan for game started in major league history and another reason why this is so impressive at the seven fifty six mark is because after doing some research don sutton never missed a start in the history of his career literally every fifth day every fourth day whatever it was back in he never missed a star never spent time on the injured list and with the way baseball is nowadays my goodness i if a if a guy makes twenty five out of the thirty five starts it's certainly something impressive nowadays and to never miss a start over the course of twenty three seasons. My goodness is that impressive. With the body with the arm not putting stress on it being able to mick zones mix pitches mix speeds reading reports on what people have to say about sutton and how he was able to manipulate the baseball. But oh my goodness twenty. Three years never missing a start. You know we have guys who missed two years now. Based on tommy john surgery and the timing of the issue and the problems that it causes to the elbow so just a fascinating statistic and i put a couple of exclamations down in my notes just to say wow that is one of the more impressive feats for a guy's career that i can ever remember but going down the list here like i said we'll kind of run through some years some career goals but he had fifty eight shutouts which certainly i found to be impressive as well. Twenty three years meaning. He had about two and a half of those per year. Yeah gosh fifty eight shutouts. That's really impressive. He threw five one hitters. Did not have a no no to his name but five times only gave up one hit throughout the course of the audi and then he had ten to hitters so very very close a number of times fifteen times only given up one or two hits. That's certainly not something to scoff at. But everybody knows how difficult it is to go. No no and a guy like don sutton never missing a start over twenty three years. Getting close is certainly impressive as well but he was seventh innings pitched in the history of major league baseball looking at it here. He's at five thousand two hundred and eighty two innings which again puts him seventh on that list. But one of the other accomplishments. Because you never miss a start. He actually had a streak of two hundred plus innings four twenty straight seasons. He did it from sixty six to eighty six and the only time he missed was actually one thousand nine hundred eighty one but come to find out that this was the strike shortened season of one thousand nine hundred eighty one and had nothing to do with him getting injured or not being able to go deep into ballgames because nineteen eighty one. He actually only had twenty three starts comparatively speaking to forty thirty five. Thirty three of the like going up and down the list here so but two hundred plus innings for twenty straight years. And i think i saw a statistic that showed last year and major league baseball. There were fifteen guys who went two hundred and sutton did it for twenty straight years so that is just absolutely incredible the longevity the success you need to have to be able to do that is certainly fascinating but sutton never won a cy young award. He finished in the top five for five straight years from nineteen seventy two through nineteen seventy six. He finished fifth. Fifth fourth fifth in third in the cy young voting in those years and finishing thirty went twenty one and ten in nineteen seventy six. This was his career high and winds he was able to only reach the twenty win plateau one time in his career. Which again is certainly fascinating for a guy who has over three hundred wins and it shows the longevity in the success of his career that way but total number of strikeouts. Three thousand five hundred and seventy four. Obviously that three thousand mark something to be a very proud of their but that puts him seventh all time on the strikeouts list for the history of major league baseball which again certainly super impressive. But not only when it comes to major league baseball but don sutton. He spent sixteen years with the los angeles dodgers. I mentioned did at the top of today's show. The dodgers unfortunately lost legend tommy lasorda earlier. This month now dealing with the death of don sutton where sutton rinks all time within. The dodgers organization is something that again i would not have guessed because the dodgers history of pitching obviously fantastic. I mean you got don nukem. Sandy colfax drysdale as events earl horsh eiser venezuela going through there. Now recently clayton kershaw. Who's been doing it for years and years. But it's actually don sutton who sits at the top of a lot of these lists for the dodgers sutton. He currently is atop the dodgers. All time wins list with two hundred and thirty three. He's got the most innings pitched for the dodgers with three thousand eight hundred sixteen. He's got the most shutouts fifty. Two of his fifty eight shutouts came while he was wearing dodger. Blue he's got the most strikeouts in dodger history with two thousand six hundred and ninety six and this is the only one that i think he will be passed on here. Soon because clayton kershaw is actually about one hundred and seventy strikeouts behind sutton and could get there in twenty twenty one. But if he doesn't. I certainly think he could pass him in twenty twenty two if he remains with the dodgers and beyond but again if you were like hey dodgers all time wins. Leader ends pitched shutouts strikeouts. Who is it my first second and third guess when not have included don sutton so super impressive when it comes to dodgers history and his career there and it's just fascinating to kind of along but he's been quoted as a very modest guy. He was talking about how you never wanted to be a superstar or one of the highest paid players. All he wanted to be was appreciated for the fact that he was consistent dependable. And you could count on him to take the ball every fifth day so he certainly gobbled that throughout the course of his career but it looks like here he signed with the dodgers in one thousand nine hundred sixty four year before the first major league baseball draft in one thousand nine hundred sixty five. I signed for an estimated. Fifteen thousand dollars and debuted in the rotation only two years later alongside superstars colfax drysdale steam. And you know. He held his own that first year. Striking out two hundred and nine guys. Which was the most by any national league rookie since nineteen eleven. When grover cleveland alexander punched out two hundred and twenty seven so came in right away. found success Was an extremely hard worker. But honestly you know again. Just didn't didn't overpower. You doesn't have the nolan ryan fastball. The sandy colfax curve ball. You know doesn't have that. Pitched i do his name. But because of that he was able to put together multiple pitches and have success throughout the longevity of his career. So streak for him. He struck out at least one hundred hitters in twenty one consecutive seasons. This is only ever been matched by three other guys. Those three guys are roger. Clemens greg maddux and nolan ryan so certainly in fantastic company there when it comes to strike outs and again the longevity of his career so man just a crazy career for don sutton as i continue to dive in here and learn more and more but he also spent time with milwaukee. Houston oakland in the angels as well but of course sixteen years with the dodgers and that's how most people remember him by but after his playing career he actually continued to have success within major league baseball. He was an analyst for the atlanta braves. Both in television and radio for over twenty years upon his retirement so that is where i kinda remember his voice more so than his success on the diamond because growing up a phillies fan. Of course play in the braves all the time they had their tbs broadcasts they were very entertaining and don sutton. He is being quoted in no not to hold anything back when it comes to his opinions and how he believes the game should be played and of course people respected his opinion and how he was able to portray due to the success. He had on the field. But it's just fascinating this guy's career and ultimately what he was able to accomplish. But once again don sutton passes away at the age of seventy five. I believe it was this past monday. If you're listening to this thursday here on the twenty-first i appreciate it. But certainly once again cancer winning that battle with don sutton and if you've ever been affected by cancer out there it's not fun and can certainly be scary so condolences go out to the sutton family but again it's just fascinating as i continue to dive into these gentlemen's careers and learn. Just man it's i opening. Sometimes the difference in the game of baseball from the sixties the seventies eighties. Until now you know. Like i mentioned two hundred innings for twenty straight years and now we got guys thirteen fourteen dies. Only you know are able to do it here. During the course at twenty twenty so the game continues to evolve but legends. Like don sutton rest in peace once again condolences to the family out there moving forward here but that'll do it for the first segment of the mcc baseball podcast brought to you by the mc podcast network What we're gonna do now here in the upcoming segment george springer. He finally made a move. I told you guys last episode. I thought he'd be heading to the mets that kind of aligned with what they were trying to accomplish well. Toronto blue jays came in and to quote the godfather made him an offer. He couldn't refuse and now. George springer is taking his talents to canada. And what is fascinating development here for the off season. But we'll step aside here for a word from one of our sponsors and one of our sisters shows and we'll discuss everything george springer when we come back stick around everyone. This is your ultimate staffer. Everything sports the golden state media concept's or podcast. Should i say more from the nfl. Mlb the nba two mma. It's all in here. Golden state media concepts podcast. Listen we're going back to the gsm. See baseball podcast brought to you by the gsm. See podcast network. I'm your host kevin. Malik thanks for listening. Everybody if you haven't checked out the other within the network do yourself a favor. Wherever you're listening to this apple podcasts spotify pandora. What else did we have out there. Stitcher amazon podcasts. I i mean. I can't even keep up with all of them and i'm in the podcast world but wherever you're listening please like rate and review. The podcast leaves five stars. Click that share button. Send us to one of your friends. Say hey lot actions about to go down a major league baseball. You're gonna wanna stay up to date with everything and check out the gs. Mcc baseball podcast. I certainly appreciate it. So let's jump into it here. Like we said george springer port reports are that he is signing with the toronto blue jays a six year one hundred and fifty million dollar contract going out to george to head to toronto. This would be the largest contract in blue jays history and only the second one top six figures or nine figures. I guess is the way to put it in one hundred million dollars. They gave out one in two thousand and six but this is by far the biggest one here to a free agent so six years one hundred and fifty million dollars. That's twenty five million a year out their average annual value. And you know it was a better than the mets deal according to sources yes. The mets came in they both were offering that six year contract which was kind of fascinating to myself. I thought they would want to keep it in that five year range at most with springer coming off his age thirty one season you know he'll be thirty two by the next year which puts him at age. Thirty seven for the life of this contract still making twenty five million a year but six years they were able to get him one hundred and fifty million like i said the mets came in right around one twenty to one twenty five according to reports so basically the met said. Hey we'll give you twenty million a year and then the blue jays came in and we're like okay. Well we're gonna give you a twenty five million a year and the other reason why this is a big deal Now as of this moment here in january we don't know exactly where the blue jays will be playing their games in twenty one due to corona virus in this strict travel restrictions of canada in regards to coming in and out of the country and originally. If you are in canada there are a bit of taxes and money complications. Similarly to the difference between new york and florida when it comes to state tax and how that affects contracts. Well same thing internationally. So the blue jays rafted. We're going to have to come in a little bit. Above wherever anybody in america to ultimately have george make the same amount of money but springer is obviously a stud. He was one of the top two to three free agency. This offseason three time off star world series. Mvp world series winner two time silver slugger even during the season here. He led the team with fourteen home. Runs thirty two and more importantly his postseason. Statistics are fantastic and something that is going to be very welcomed in that toronto clubhouse because in toronto they have a very young ball club next. Step a lot of the kids in the infield and they like springer to come in and kind of. Show them professionally. Hey this is how it goes. This is what you need to do. And this is how you get it done. Because he's been to the playoffs every year since two thousand seventeen and even five out of six fifteen yes sixteen no and then seventeen eighteen. Nineteen and twenty. Of course the the astros have made it send at least made a run for a couple of rounds there so career to sixty nine hitter in the playoffs. He but he does have nineteen home runs in only sixty three games so he is certainly not adverse to the big moments in even this past year here in twenty twenty he had four home runs in only eleven games so it was a nice run for george in the post season. But what does this do for the blue jays. You know kind of. Where does this take us here. And it's fascinating because there's a couple of different reports out there that they are still pursuing. Michael brantley who is a good buddy of george springer there actually represented by the same agency. But i i would think they would be done here in the outfield. Because if you're looking at a potential starting lineup. You got springer in center field. At second base bisharat short you have hernandez says the designated hitter role because again springer kind of gives them four solid outfield. There's going to have to move to the d. h. role and based on defensive metrics. It certainly seems that springer is gonna play centerfield because he had. I believe it was six and a half run saved or d. r. s that. They liked to call it here in the blue jays as a whole in the outfield last year. We're at a minus seven so springer automatically makes them better in sanur maybe later in his career he can move to one of the corners but for now like i said i got hernandez moving from left to the d. h. role. We're gonna put gurriel junior out there and left. Keep greig checkout and right field and then put springer in center. But you're one through nine here this lineup of springer busy. Oh bischette hernandez guerrero tellez guri. L. greene chicken. Janson is a deep solid lineup and there is some balance. Righty lefty busy. Oh and tell us are from the left handed side so it'll be fascinating to kind of see if toronto is able to continue to compete with the big boys because things are happening in the american league. I gotta be honest with you. There's a ton of movement happen in the al on the national league side of things. It certainly seems like it's only been the padres in the mets who have joined the party so far but on the american league side. I mean we have the white sox make it a ton of moves that we we've discussed now. You have toronto joining the party. We had the yankees just recently bringing back. Dj lemay hugh so it is kind of fascinating to follow along and see here. The cat and mouse game. You know that's taken place when it comes to make moves in trying to stay relevant in the american league east and The the blue jays had themselves a day because not only did. They signed george springer reports of signing george springer once again this is pending a physical down in florida springer's headed to their spring training facility down there to complete his physical but that all goes smoothly like they anticipate he will be a member of the blue jays and moving forward so but like i said here the blue jays themselves a day because they also signed former padres closer. Kirby yates to a one year deal. This deal is worth a guaranteed five point five million dollars but with performance bonuses. That can go all the way up to ten million dollars so the blue jays adding a piece to the bullpen. Along with yates. They also added reliever tyler chat. Would to a little bit of a lesser. Deal that one kind of went under the radar but chat would if he bounces back and finds himself and we know. Relievers are extremely volatile year to year when it comes to their success. And that's why the guys who are able to continue to dominate are really looked at as special but i mean a couple of years ago. Kirby yates you could argue. That he was one of the best relievers in baseball. I mean san diego two thousand eighteen twenty nineteen. He had sub two five year as both of those years. Strikeout rates of thirty six and forty two percent to walk rates of only six and five so strikeout-to-walk ratio certainly fantastic and twenty twenty. Yates was bit by the injury bug. He had some bone chips in his throwing elbow. Which limited him to under five innings. And you know it's kind of hard to dive into any more moves here but man. If yates is able to bounce back they get this offense. Go in toronto with the rotation of reu- and pearson and a couple of other young guys. They got coming up. Toronto could be a sneaky team in the american league. In honestly they surprise people in twenty twenty. So i think here in twenty twenty one we could be in for a little bit more of the same. But what does this do for the rest of major league baseball. I mean here we are. we're about to tick into february and one of the big three has finally signed. So where does this take us. Elsewise well again. The mets were in on george springer. So we'll take our attention there and say okay. Well where do they go next because clearly offering twenty million dollars. They think they still have money to spend while. Still being able to extend michael conforto and francisco lynn door. So it'd be interesting if they turn their attention onto the internal guys or if they're still looking to add a piece from the outside because they the move at the catching position so it's not going to be real mutual which means the really the only other big fish for them is trevor bauer. And it does seem with the moves they've made bringing incorr- lasko bringing back stroman on a qualifying offer that they are happy with where their rotation is so. I think this transitions them. Out of the free agent market and back into the trade market in new york in the one name. I can think of here that could potentially be on. The list is kris bryant and twenty million a year for springer. Mets anticipated that brian. I think is gonna make about nineteen and a half here in twenty twenty one so those salaries aligned to what the mets were trying to accomplish. And that's really the only guy who i think could still be on their radar. Moving forward here to make a move but okay so the mets. They're out on the our real mutoko sweepstakes. Well let's talk. Jt real mutoko here. It came out last week. We talked about it on mondays episode that the phillies offered him. I believe it was a five year deal just north of one hundred million dollars and it has been truly fascinating to see. Real mute does markets kind of continued to develop and not really develop at the same time. I'm mean again. There were talks that he wanted thirty million a year. Twenty five million one hundred fifty one hundred and eighty and you know the phillies. Who for once seemed to have their finger on the pulse here and get things right because they're going no jt that you're not getting that on the free agent market so we're not going to give that to you before you get there and everybody in philadelphia was so upset that they were going to allow him to test free agency. Bryce harper screaming outside. Jt in an empty ballpark after he hits a home run where management can clearly hear him. They recently signed archie bradley. who tweets out. One of the first things is signed. Jt kinda fascinating to see how that interaction has taken place but it does seem to be that the phillies are really the only big time player left for real mutel. He was tied to toronto. But with this recent deal that money has of gone elsewhere there's been conversations around the nationals. Potentially but if you're looking at teams in teams willing to give him big money it certainly seems that all signs are pointing back to philadelphia for jt and now it's just a matter of if he's going to be content getting twenty one twenty two million a year for a five year. One hundred ten million dollar deal. But if springer in the mets they had him right around twenty and he's at twenty five. I would put jt kind of one tier right below that. So i think twenty two twenty two is where is market is in his fair value for jt. So it'll be fascinating to see if over the next forty eight hours if he jumps in here and dust signs on the dotted line very similarly to springer but the last of the big three of course is trevor. Bauer i myself i think. I predicted monday that he would head to toronto. But this doesn't seem to be the case anymore with george springer signing so now the leader in the clubhouse for him i certainly believe is on the west coast. The la angels are one of the few big name could potentially be involved and this could change the thinking of trevor bauer potentially right so there were conversations earlier in the off season. Is he looking for a long term. Commitment with big dollars Short term commitment with big dollars and betting on himself once again. Because if he's willing to kind of come down to that one to two year mark it's certainly allow his suitors to open up teams like the dodgers could be involved at that point. I wouldn't rule out the padre who continue to make moves and even on the east coast the yankees the mets. I think they'd certainly be more interested in a two year. Seventy million dollar deal than five and one fifty or whatever. Those numbers come out to hear. But hopefully we're going to have some traction and some movement here sooner than later across the free agency market because george springer one of the first domino's to fall and like i mentioned here kind of puts everything else into place in changes the probabilities on where these other guys end up but shadow to george springer. I've met george a couple of times. He was always a fantastic individual super nice. Very clever funny witty guy. And wishing him the best in from everything. I've heard around the clubhouse. That's certainly has echoed across major league baseball so george springer taken his talents up north to the toronto blue jays. Six years one hundred fifty million. He's the first one of the big three to sign. What does this mean. I think it means. Jt's headed back to philadelphia and it certainly means bowers looking like he said at out west to be part of the la angels but nothing set. Those are personal preferences or personal thoughts. I'm not reporting anything out here so you guys will have to continue to stay tuned to the gsm. See baseball podcast. And we'll keep you guys up to date on everything going on across major league baseball here but that'll do it for the second segments. I appreciate you guys listening. We'll step aside here now for a word from one of our sponsors in one of our sisters shows but when we come back we'll discuss the rest of the free agent market. There were a handful of signings under the radar not as high level. But things are starting to kind of fizzle you know. The hot stove is starting to bubble not quite boiling yet but starting to bubble so stick around everybody. I'm kevin mallik. we'll be right back. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searched. 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According to a source this is pending a physical but seems to be done. This reunites quintana with manager. Joe maddon who managed him from twenty seventeen to twenty nine thousand nine hundred chicago cups. Quintana 's career. Era of three seven three over the course of nine seasons i was an all star. Twenty sixteen so he. He only had one start last year. He was cut short due to a cut or laceration on his left thumb. His pitching thumb during the summer camp or spring training to point out which limited him to ten innings and. That was the first time he had really missed some time. Due to injury because for the seven years prior he had at least thirty starts in over one hundred and seventy innings so for the angels. This was certainly a a welcome asset an attractive quality for quintana because they had trouble basically getting innings from their starting pitcher. They only had one guy last year or in two thousand. Nineteen with last. Full season reached one hundred innings so can figures into a rotation that also includes dylan. Bundy potentially shohei otani. You got griffin canning andrew haney but the angels still could potentially be in on trevor. Bauer like we discussed in. Ultimately you throw bauer quintana bundy and otani and all of a sudden. The angels are certainly a lot better on paper than they were just a year ago. So wait and see if you're an angels fan but it was certainly a nice. I move in an improvement to the rotation to bring in quintana next on the list. Here we have john. Lester lester recently. Signed a one year five million dollar option or excuse me five million dollar contract with a twenty twenty two option for both the nationals lester. It's a mutual option. And i mean this is a solid signing for the nationals. When you look at their rotation they got the top three of scherzer's strasbourg corbin. And then you mix in some john. Lester is the four number five. And that's kind of where he fits at this point of his career. He's kind of coming on the back nine now last couple of years. He's thirty seven years old. He's recently had some velocity drop so he's no longer that front end starter but he is certainly somebody who knows how to pitch and knows how to win has had playoff success both in boston and chicago. So it'll be fascinating to see if he can kind of filter into that four and five slot and potentially watch stats tick up a bit. But when it comes to the velocity talking strictly for seem. I mean all the way back in twenty sixteen. He was at about ninety three miles an hour and this has dropped every year since then to wear. Twenty twenty was the first year. He averaged just under ninety so lester certainly needs to kind of reinvent himself almost for third time here. Work off speed pitches because he's not going to be overpowering anymore with this stuff there in the low nineties high eighties. But it's an interesting kind of projection for him. People have him yara around five based on some fan graphs and things like that but once again in that. Four or five role. When you're coming up behind strasbourg sherzer in corbin. The pressure's a little bit less for less. They're there in washington. So i think that's a good fit for the nationals. As they boost that pitching staff that carried them all the way to the world series not too long ago and twenty nineteen so the national certainly got better as well. We also had a trade to discuss. The pirates traded pitcher joe. Musk grove he was the highlight of the deal to the padres in a three team deal. That sent pitcher. joey luke. Chessy to the mets so the pirates received back pitcher david benner and four minor leaguers notably outfielder. Hudson head. is the one going back to pittsburgh. But must grove is a very underrated talent. I mean and the padres just continue to load up on the rotation. I mean clubbing. You're still out. But all the other additions. They traded for darvish. They traded for snell and how they trade for months grove so they are absolutely going for it and these are the names that continue to be impressive. I mean when you're looking at two. Musk grove compared to some of the other top pitchers in the big leagues. There were only ten starters who had a whiff rate or a swing and miss rate of at least fifty percent on any specific pitch type in twenty twenty now. The minimum here for this graph was twenty five pitches so but there were only two starters who had multiple within that so ten starters but only two of the ten had two different pitches with a whiff rate of at least fifty percent. Those two names number one american league cy young winner shane bieber and number two. You guessed it. Joe must growth of the pittsburgh pirates. Joe had his curveball as well as his slider both above that fifty percent mark so his off speed is certainly extremely above average. And this is something that If you're into analytics or sabermetrics you kind of see this stuff and your eyes light up. Because you're thinking man. If he could throw those more often he could control those. Get ahead in the count. This guy is going to be extremely difficult to hit against and with that lineup. Offensively in san diego. He said certainly have more run support. Then he's had in pittsburgh in quite some time so you know. Put him in the rotation up there man at a padres the nationals. Everybody getting better on the national league side when it comes to the rotation and moving forward but if you're the pirates why would you do this you know what are you looking for here and it's kinda fascinating and that's you know they. They don't see themselves as contenders and musk. Grove has two years remaining on his deal and within that window. They don't fancy themselves speed able to win the division so they moved on for. Some prospects got a couple relievers outfielders. That were three four five years away from potentially contributing at the big league level but based on pittsburgh's actions and what they have done so far. This timeline aligns with when they believe they can be competitive. And it'll be interesting another rebuild in pittsburgh. They made the playoffs there for a couple of years and now they find themselves starting over here once again but the padres they just continue to improve. And i'm certainly going to have a lot of fun watching those guys play ball here for pretty much the entirety of the summer. So that's it for the hard moves. The hard signings now a transition into the rumors that are heading out there. Let's see here actually just popped out here on the twentieth at the blue jays are also signing outfielder michael brantley. Even though they just signed george springer there are also adding michael brantley. Who is very good friends with george. It looks like he's agreed to a three year deal with the blue jays. This would certainly pencil him in to kind of that designated hitter spot there that we had talked about could potentially go to hernandez in the last segment. But i believe toronto will probably move. One of those younger outfielders. Tried to get some prospects back. But if you put brantley in the middle of that lineup springer at the top of that lineup like we sat around but and all those other guys man the blue jays certainly having themselves a day here in the last forty eight hours because it had just popped up my timeline. That michael branly will indeed sign with the blue jays pending a physical and these are of course sources still to this point but that does seem to be picking up steam here moving forward next up. The boston red sox. What's going on in boston. Well they quote remain high end quotes on kiki hernandez of the los angeles dodgers. Mlb networks. john. Hayman reported on twitter. Wednesday that the red sox are still very interested but he also noted that the new york mets are having conversations with hernandez is well. Kiki was one of the top utility men in the league and has a ton of versatility. Infield options outfield options. And the red sox are looking to upgrade on the Second base position with dustin pedroia. No longer call in that space home. So they're looking to add hernandez here in could get a little bit busy in the near future. If you're in boston because not a lot stake in place up there. I know the fans are starting to get a little bit antsy but here in the past few days. We've heard that. Boston could be involved in a handful of moves and as recently as a couple of days ago. Boston traded their fourteenth ranked prospect to the phillies. Cj chaffin who was a shortstop second baseman for a player to be named later now initially the philadelphia market thought. This could be the start of an andrew benintendi trade but it did seem to kind of come together on its own where it was just a one off deal because multiple reports out there say the red sox are open to trading him and there are multiple clubs interested in acquiring him but there has been said quote the asking price from at least one of the teams involved a younger corner outfielder along with a minor league pitcher not necessarily on the forty man roster so if they move benintendi they're looking for a younger piece kind of up and coming a little bit more potential as well as a lottery ticket arm that could potentially be added to the deal so the boston sports journal listed the astros athletics pirates as teams. That could be involved. There's also been communication around the rangers. The reds in the phillies. Like i mentioned having conversations with high end bloom up there in boston about adding benintendi. So it'll be fascinating to see ultimately what they get from the phillies. They were talking about former number one overall. Pick mickey mony. Ac potentially being moved as at young corner outfielder and then a triple a. arm. Not on the forty man certainly aligns with the reports. That are coming out of boston in what they're looking for in return here so boston could be active in the next week or so. It's one of those will. We will have to stay tuned to everything going on up in beantown. So let's see what else is happening out there as i'm scrolling through. The mets are interested in kiki. We mentioned that the minnesota twins they are interested in potentially bringing back marwin gonzalez. Gonzales was with them the past two seasons. He's now a free agent but they're kind of waiting to see what happens here and people are saying that the twins are now interested in potentially bringing him back. Excuse me gonzales. Sign with minnesota before the twenty nineteen season. He had a nice little run with the houston astros. He he didn't particularly live up to the. You know offense. He put up in houston but he's also a versatile defender he was good for them in spurts. So it'd be interesting to see ultimately if minnesota does bring him back and which move they ultimately make here now. There are a ton of rumors happening across the free agent market as well as the starting pitching market. The dodgers have been linked to brad hand over the past couple of weeks They're said to be in the peripheral of his market kind of lurking in the shadows to see ultimately how it plays out mark feinstein of mlb dot com tweeted. That jeremy jeffers is on the radar of several clubs and there are a handful of them. Here he was formerly of the cubs. Relief pitcher had some success. Those teams named red sox cubs astros. Dodgers mets phillies blue jays nationals. I mean that's pretty much everybody across the board but he had a fantastic twenty eighteen but has been unable to kind of repeat that sense and teams are hoping that they can get him back to that form to other names that have recently thrown in front of scouts during quote unquote showcase very similar to the corey. Kluber situation where annabelle sanchez. As well as julio teheran who is formerly of the atlanta braves there were a number of teams there and the ones that were most notable where the raise twins marlins and mets all looking to add. Potentially starting pitching here at a reasonable cost and sanchez has been linked to the phillies as well due to his time with dombrowski in detroit. And so it'll be kind of fascinating to see ultimately which direction sanchez baharan go here. Moving forward but a ton of rumors. Continue to churn out there. 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Podcast listen Hello and thanks again for listening to the gsm. See baseball. Podcast brought to you by the gmc podcast network. I'm your host kevin mahalick. Hopefully you guys are having a fantastic week out there. It is thursday january twenty first we are cruising learn along here under a month until spring training reports at the end of february pitchers and catchers even sooner than that. Tim like we talked about it. And episodes past major league. Baseball has let them know. They intend to play a full one. Sixty to stay on time this year. In twenty twenty one the owners wanted to push back but the players let them know that they do not have the right any longer to declare an emergency situation. So we're moving on fast in heavy here as we head onto twenty twenty one but unfortunately for mets fans out there there has been some recent positively growing. You know they added lynn door roscoe. They're still on it in on a few names here in free agency but there was a scandal that recently took place. Where new york's new. Gm jared porter. He acknowledged he sent explicit images to a female reporter back when he worked for the chicago cups so back when he was president of director of professional scouting he then would text a foreign correspondents who had moved to the united states to cover major league baseball before these these texts to ended up not being very professional. And i gotta watch my words here with exactly what happened. But he texted her a ton of times. Fifteen photos sixteen basically getting into the area of jail or male. Genitalia is the way to describe it here so this has come out so only a month or so after. He was hired by the new york. Mets and once this report was filed on monday or the report was released. It was then known that. Tuesday morning the mets fired porter from a tweet from owner steve cohen. Making it official. He said quote in my initial press conference. I spoke about the importance of integrity. And i meant it. There should be zero tolerance for this type of behavior so kind of breaking down the time line of this story these pictures and text messages took place back in twenty six twenty seven and espn obtained the messages back in twenty seventeen. They spoke to the woman who was on the receiving end. But at this point she did not want to go forward with these allegations because she concluded her career could be harmed if the story emerged but in the recent days this woman who has since left journalism and gone back to her home country she continues to speak on the case aminu witty because basically where she's from women's rights and women's empowerment is not where to the level. It is in america so she does not want to get quote dragged through the mud if your name is associated with any type of sexual scandal so she has yet to come out but espn thoroughly vetted. The article did a lot of interviews. There's an extremely well. Detailed well written article. By jeff passan. I believe on espn by jeff. Passan and meena calms the two. Who released the article. Here it goes into quite a bit of detail regarding their texts it actually has copies and images of their texts in porter sending a couple of different images in. Why won't you respond in. Mis knowing you certainly at the end there was the one that crossed the line. The woman did say that she responded back. Finally that this is inappropriate. And crossing the line. And i'm not comfortable. And then the next day he did text. I'm sorry but she goes on to state that she never felt that he actually felt those emotions in was just saying that to ultimately hopefully suv these things over so she continues to be strong and coming out and discussing this but the timing for the mets certainly could not be any worse and i thought that i had with certainly as how do you not find this out. Or how do you not know about this during the hiring process like isn't this part of the vetting process or the background check or multiple different ways while you're check in different sources different references. You know none of this comes to light here. It's just kinda fascinating and sandy. Alderson did speak to this a little bit. He said quote. This is a wakeup call. It clearly suggests something like this can be out there in connection with almost anyone we have to do our best to make sure we know about that information but there are limits to what we can actually get. I don't think this reflects a fundamental flaw in the process. I think this is a very unfortunate circumstance that we wish we knew about but did not end quote so again the mets. I mean you're going through guys you're bringing them up here. I know we all have our kind of individual secrets so to speak. But i feel like something. This large sets kind of outstanding. You could have had a conversation because again. Espn and jeff passan. They had known some of this information. We're continuing to gain this information. All the way back to twenty seventeen so sandy alderson didn't call. Espn didn't call. Jeff passan to kind of say. Hey you know. What have you heard about this guy. What's going on around the league. What's the you know the communication and the back channels. Because i felt like they may have been tipped off to something like this and could have helped them out here. So let's see anderson continued. There really wasn't a voice. So from my standpoint i was shocked. Eventually that gives away to disappointment and a little bit of anger. There's always a risk associated with higher. Read there was no disclosure of this conduct. I don't think we would have hired. Jared if we had known about the conduct before him. Should we have known we did a background check. We asked if there was anything else. We need to know and apparent end quote and apparently porter did not disclose this conduct during the hiring process. And yeah of course porter's knocking himself out during the hiring process. That's part of your responsibility as the team. Who's doing the hiring to be able to dig a little bit deeper an potentially figure out what's taking place so it's just a fascinating circumstance in one of those where once again it does seem a little bit fuzzy but i mean once somebody gets into the position of power you know a story like this comes out just moments later so pass in in mina kimes discussed about this and the timing of this in it had nothing to do with the hiring. It has everything to do with the victim and how she wanted to go about this story and this isn't their story. This is her story so there are multiple different lenses multiple different angles. That you can talk about this but again just as a mets fan you gotta be thinking to yourself. Wow once again. We make a higher and we have to move on from him and you know just a month later. Major league baseball has come out and there was reportedly planning to investigate jared porter bob. Nightingale reported potential punishment could be porter being suspended and requiring reinstatement before working in baseball. Once again so he could be suspended indefinitely until he probably goes through some programs some guidance and ultimately kind of finds himself so major league baseball is certainly not just sweeping this under the rug and they want to find out what happened. Get to the bottom of it and see if they can help. Correct it to make sure something like this doesn't happen again because not only. Is this a black eye on on the new york mets and that organization. But it's also a black eye on major league baseball. I mean being a general manager major league baseball. There's only thirty two of these guys across the lake. So for one of them to come out and kind of be You know man. I don't i don't know the words to say there but just to be ousted a month later is certainly not a good. Look for the new york mets. But what does this mean moving forward for the gm spots. I mean the mets are right where they were about a month ago looking to bring on a gm here but it has been reported that alderson said that the mets will not hire another gm. This offseason they said quotes. I'm very confident in the group. We have that we can move forward and move forward effectively and this is a fascinating subplot because the next step on the list for the offseason was trying to sign francisco lynn door to a long term deal and that is typically the responsibility of the general manager. And now you don't you don't have one of those so as alderson going to be running the baseball operations i would assume so. And he's going to be the one making the decision on lynn door. In which direction they go. And oh my goodness. It just adds a bunch of wrinkles to that side of things moving forward. But you know who would be the leading candidates not only this year but moving into next year of course internally. The front runner would be zach. Scott zach scott was a finalist for the gm job at wound up being hired as assistant general manager under border. So basically that means he's already working in the upper echelon of the mets they could essentially promote him without giving him that title or announcing him as strictly general manager but he could continue to make all of those moves in decisions under alderson scott had spent seventeen years working for the red sox he's become steeped in analytics in that puts him certainly at the top of the list. Moving forward now there are some fans of new york. Who want theo epstein tip potentially come in here now big market team trying to build up. It could be a rejuvenation thing for theo. But he was recently brought on at the commissioner side of things He's working for major league baseball as a whole. And i think it's a nice move because i anticipate theo epstein being the next commissioner of major league baseball i think rob manfred we all know what a horrible job rob manfred is done going back to the astros scandal. The red sox scandal all of this negotiations taking place in just every time. The guy speaks. It feels like he's putting his foot in his mouth. I mean who caused the trophy a piece of metal. You're the commissioner of the league and you're calling its most prized asset. A piece of metal. And you didn't think that any backlash was going to be coming your way. So just fascinating. But theo epstein certainly. He's not going to be making the move from the commissioner side of thing in major league baseball side of things back down to mets general manager. Here in my opinion but a couple of other names we hear. Is billy owens formerly of the oakland athletics. he's been involved with a couple of different stints. he is forty nine years old. He played for seven years in the minor leagues. He's got a scouting background. He's big into blending analytics and scouting in the eye test. And he's certainly done great things out there and oakland and he has a strong background here for a potential candidate. You also have michael hill. Who was interviewing for the phillies general manager position. He spent more than two decades with the marlins. They parted ways after the twenty twenty season even though the marlins had made the playoffs for the first time in a long time with pretty much a rundown roster that nobody had anticipated the playoffs over certainly fascinating. See him go up potentially different direction and ultimately why but you also have john rico who works internally with the mets he could potentially Get promoted it does. Seem like he will be on the team that alderson was talking about with scott and ultimately come to make team wise decisions. You have bobby heck out of the tampa bay rays organization. People have discussed with him that he could potentially move. But you know teams are not dumb. I mean even here in philadelphia when we were looking for. Gm's you look at the teams that don't come from a big market and that are always successful in turning over talent and the tampa bay rays come to mind the oakland athletics come to mind. You have the cleveland indians. Who seem to be very good year after year and a lot of teams like to pool from these types of organizations to make their moves for the next guy moving forward here but from everything. We've heard from the mets side of things. They are currently not interested in adding a gm from outside the organization here in the next month as we move forward to the twenty twenty one season. So jared porter is out. He sent unsolicited explicit photos to a former correspondents that once again. I mean. Read the article on. Espn if you want to get into a ton of detail here but Not a good. Look for the mets and not a good look for major league baseball at all here but that does it for today's episode. Everybody thanks for listening. What did we cover here today. Just to briefly recap of course at the top of the episode. We talked about the passing of don sutton. Unfortunately a los angeles dodgers great has moved on rest in peace condolences. Go out to the sutton family. We discussed all of his accolades and everything he did for major league baseball here rest in peace early. Twenty twenty one then. We talked about all the signings news rumors. The toronto blue jays making a ton of moves. They signed george springer. Michael brantley kirby. Yates a couple of other guys up there as well as the nationals. Make a move with less there. The padres at another starting pitcher with musk grove. The phillies added archie bradley. And then we talked about all the latest rumors how this affects jt. Mutoko and trevor bauer. Where do they end up. The new york yankees are still looking for starting pitching but trying to stay under the luxury tax. So a ton of stuff going on out there. But i appreciate you guys listening once again. So i'll ask you one last time here before we sign off please. Rate and review the podcast. Wherever you're listening apple podcasts. Spotify stitcher like rate review subscribe whichever platform. It's on you know. They're different buttons there. But if you leave a comment. I'll read them here on the show guys have a question. We'll talk about it. we'll discuss. It is well as head to social media jesus. Mcc baseball podcast. As well as the emcee podcast network. Check out both of those. And then lastly be a friend. Tell a friend continue to help us. Share the podcast here as we are creeping ever so closely back to baseball here in twenty twenty one but thanks for listening everyone once again. I'm your host kevin mahalick and i will talk to you guys again on monday. You've been listening to the golden state media concepts baseball. Podcast part of the golden state media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like it at www dot jesus mc podcast dot com download. Our podcast on itunes stitcher sound clock and google play just type it gs mc to find all the shows from the golden state media concepts podcast network from movies to music throw sports to entertain and even weird news. You can also follow us on twitter and on facebook. Thank you and we hope you have enjoyed today's program.

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Salisbury Steakout: What Are The Biggest Stories For The Astros Going Into The Season

The Sean Salisbury Show

13:03 min | 2 months ago

Salisbury Steakout: What Are The Biggest Stories For The Astros Going Into The Season

"Back to sean salisbury. Show sean out there now. The cells bury's stakeouts. Take off on the sean salisbury show and we are going to add to this but a little later on the eight o'clock hour tyler's ten where weekly once a week tyler. Fire ten questions at us. Just whether it's entertainment music. Just thanks. he wants to know the answer to and we're not going to figure out. You know the formula pie all that stuff. We're just gonna talk and sports whatever it is. So we'll we'll have tyler with that. Some of these questions makes around the astros or locally and nationally. So we'll get to that but first week. Stake it out tyler. What's on your mind. On a stakeout brother so you slightly mentioned the astros. Today's the day pitchers and catchers report for sprint trading. Well i said soon. And here's why can you get there. That's the big thing now. I would hope the astros who are reporting today have left already so and if you left great job you've left before the storm hit and hopefully power there in florida anyways Stay on the line with the astros. What is the main story. Or what is their main focus going into the season. Well i think a couple of things one is. You gotta decide who your everyday center fielder is going to be. If it's mild or somebody else. I think that's that's one of them. Secondly who you're gonna put in one hole. And that's a big void by george springer if strasbourg because he can run. You're going to lose a major power element. Do you have the guts to move. Somebody like you know bregman. The one slot are out to vase. Seems like a natural leadoff. His kyle tucker worthy leading off because there's pop in his bat. The leadoff positions changed over the years. It used to be guide. Get on base and run ricki henderson's of the world vince coleman of the world. Willie mcgee's the world get on base and run and turn a single into a triple although sent great butters it could it could drag the bunt and get them on first base twenty five times a year. It's changed we stick power bats in the leadoff spot and a lot of places and no bigger power batting leadoff spot than the cat here. I think The guy charlie in blackman in Colorado in the leadoff slot slot plenty of times big pop in his back. It's changed we don't run as much major league. Baseball fifty steals put you in. You're like an all star. You're you've had an awesome year. Ricky henderson at fifty steals before the all star break and would laugh at it so the one hole is going to be an important part of what they do and i'm anxious to see how that experiment goes in. The simple thing is depth on the pitching staff. We've got to see you know. Arms is from revealed as what we saw last year. Has he has now arrived to the point where he won't revert back were now. We're looking at a superstar. In the making the command of the lance mccullers. the back into the bullpen. Can i get back to where close out games becomes a normal routine. The obviously it's going to surround the depth of the pitching staff just is and how that works out in overlander. So you're gonna have to deal with and and and lance mccullers and who is that guy italy. It appears to be greedy. But you know. He's not the overpowering guy boise a smart pitcher and then you've got to also find out If jose altuve base heads okay. And what i mean by that is going through the struggles. Defensively getting him back to where he's a three thirty hitter and playing sound effects so those are a lot of them right there and i'm anxious to see what all this muscle that alex bregman put on if it means that he's a better player or it was too much muscle. I don't know. I don't know that we've seen both happening in sports in baseball and basketball. Some guys put on weight. We saw lebron been lebron. Got real thin and a gain a little back. Because you know you're you're you're the battle of eighty two games. We've seen it happen in football. We've seen it happened a lot of good. We've seen it happen all over where you know you go into to hell you lose too much weight or you get too much strength. Become a little bit tighter. I don't think alex bregman would get to the point where he didn't feel like he could turn and putting that muscle on because he wants to withstand. What's going to be long season this year. A full season. So to me tyler. Listen it's gonna start. I know they're going to hit i. I know they're gonna hit a pro career. You know i would imagine. We'll feed off his postseason. I expect bregman have a better year. Where's to at south confidence. Wise and get out to back Who's the leadoff hitter. Losing centerfield is kyle tucker star now in the making we know that brantley like i said the pro so all those things come into but this team is going to go about as far as the pitching takes him. So that's my biggest concern is the pitching. It's a bummer. Not seeing george in uniform but there are and this is still the best team in the division. Much to your chagrin rangers brother but Is there something that you need to see from the astros. They report pitchers and catchers but also as. We look forward to the next couple of weeks of spring training starting. I think the pitching staff is the biggest question. Mark no doubt nowadays. Yes and innings. No question now you for the top of the order. You could do a rotation until you figure it out. I would imagine that's what they're going to experiment with. Why not test them all exactly. But for the pitching staff. You have great key mccullers. Ver- landers out. It's it's a big question mark and rightful rightful and rightfully so we said he's a question mark of all. There's no question there's no question mark. there's no question no doubt it's a it's a it's a concern and i know they've got the potential to be really good. Some of these young arms were fabulous last year. The key is can come back and repeat it over a hundred and sixty game season hundred. What are we one hundred. Sixty two games hundred six hundred and sixty two game season. I was sitting here thinking one hundred fifty four no basketball short their season. Two seventy two baseball's hundred sixty. They're playing the full thing out which is good so one hundred six two game season and hopefully the playoffs and the rest of it. The these young guys now got a full season without you know what had what they went through last year. Now now it's different. The grinds different and the expectations are different. And i really am intrigued with the from does an with kyle tucker tucker now got a lot of at bats. Now where is he heck. You could experiment. Like i said with him. In the leadoff spot michael brantley would get on base that rut but michael brantley is a pro. You could play. I mean so finding out but the biggest things going to be if the pitching's average they're going to have to hit out of their mind if the pitching's good see they're hitting alone. I think can take him to the playoffs as long as the pitching decent. But at the pitching's really good then they become a threat because you look up and down that line. If they're still even without george springer formidable without to vein bregman and and and i'm anxious to see how your body is too. That's another question. Mark young the knees are always probably going to be a problem. Tyler they are when you're that young and you haven't the chronic knee issues if that's what it is. They may always be problem. But the guy can frigging rake and having him back for a full season in the middle of your lineup. The numbers could be if he can play one hundred and fifty games. I mean epic so that that's another one that we kind of we. We've talked about pitching and all these things. Losing george but one thing we fail to realize this cat's coming back. Let's find out what he's all about. I'm anxious to see the condition shape. He's in how his body holds up. If it does. He was just born to hitman. We were fortunate before you got here dude. When he came up with call up from the minor leagues two years ago was a two years. Yeah two years ago dude. His here's his prodigious power and just his ability to hit nothing short of phenomenal. This this dude is a bad man can his legs. Hold up. 'cause you know in sports when the lower body doesn't respond the rest of the bodies the it's hard in sports when the legs go or when the legs are reacting or responding the way you wanted to become a problem you're late everywhere else. I'm hoping for that. I'm intrigued to watch this guy for a full season. If he's healthy in this lineup in the middle of this order what what he can pull off as a hitter but it is gonna be pitching you think your angels can pitch well enough to keep up with the astros this year. Now i always wonder why is it that they can't go get pitching. I've never understood it. They don't get a throw the bank at the hitting they throw the bank at the batting. Line-up the pitching the back dude. Exactly Pitching is always a massive question mark every single year. And i've never understood it. I don't know for whatever reason they do. The bargain bin for pitchers. Yeah but i don't understand it at what point time don't leaders of the team or somebody or the general manager or the manager walk in there. Say listen man. We can't continue to win this way. I know it looks good. It's really pretty watching ren don't and trout and don't and and Those bats hit and drive in runs but losing nine. Eight ain't good i did. i started. Never understood their lack. When's the last time the angels invested in in pitching solid good pitching and from top to bottom. What would social. They won the world series last time they invested in good. Pitching top to bottom was probably two thousand nine. That's the that's the last time they made it to the exactly right. So guess what. We're in twenty twenty one dude yet. They got money and they spend money. The problem is sometimes they spent in the wrong spot. They okay so my grief is what the owner artie marino. Did they think they were going to get garrett. Cole i think a lot of day day had a legitimate shot for the yankees right but even one of them. You need more than wanted. Yeah you need more than one. Otani the eventually otani. I've always said. I don't know how he can continue to do two things. I love otani. he's gotta to pick one. Yeah and you know what. I pick hit ya. The dudes are the dudes talk about prodigious power. The dude can hit at five hundred feet. He he's if you know what it just like when when bowe was playing football and baseball and dion at some point in time. It's really hard to be awesome at both. Listen this guy's a special cat. I don't know win but at some point doesn't have to choose and right now to me just for the arm trouble and the rest of it that he's had it would seem to me that hitting would be the first choice his longevity wise for him because he special at the plate right you stuff but i just i can't i can't see this i just can't you're not getting the best of one. You're getting good a both at times. Sometimes not as good a tiny but at some point. Don doesn't already marine on in the team. Matt have to stay. Take a step back and say we. We've got a. We've got to invest this offseason. At some point one of these offseasons into going out and getting lights out pitching the question is can you get people to go there. I guess and i just don't know why you would want to. It's orange county. See angels good facility great hitters. You get to play with. Mike trout and rent. I mean you'd think that that would be a place but even a guy who lived there didn't go there. He went back to new york which was his childhood team. Right weird weird. You can't get them there and it's just bothersome to me. I imagine his to you to very much. So i can't stand especially the guys up the up. The interstate interstate five. Oh yeah you see the dodgers winning like seven and al west titles in a row and get an keep getting pitching getting hit somewhere where mid to lower tier of the al west every year. And they're an hour away right it ain't i mean what's the bigger dry not like. La should be a bigger drawing card hop on a train or drive your car from newport damn to dam los angeles you got it so anaheim's disneyland. It's better thank you. There you go you can ride matterhorn. Or what's the other one space mount. I'm really big thunder mountain. There you go they love. That's the train. I love thunder mountain. Sportstalk seven ninety or about a half hour away from tyler's ten we've thrown out seven three two one two five seven ninety your ability to make a trade for watson if it has to happen. Find me one and tell me what we're getting if it has to happen. None of us wanted to sports. Talk seven ninety.

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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 478: MLB All-Star Game on the Move

GSMC Baseball Podcast

1:22:28 hr | Last week

GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 478: MLB All-Star Game on the Move

"Awesome golden state concepts baseball podcasts. We cover everything majorly from spring trees. The world series. Got your favorite club. Cover from new york to boston to la. This is the golden state media concepts baseball podcast Right and welcome back everybody to the gmc baseball podcast. My name is patrick kenny. And i'm going to be the host free ause episode today In today's episode. I'm gonna give you all a little bit of an update so far on The games that have been played and give you like some league leaders through the gains. That hadn't been played Honestly there really. Isn't that much to go on so far but we're going to go through. The league leaders are figure. We'll probably do this every Every every week or every podcast For my episodes Just give and just give a little bit of an update to see where where everybody is. Maybe give a little fantasy advice. We'll see and in the second segment we're going to be breaking down francisco endorse contract and And and Why the why. The long-term deals don't work out in the long term. But you pay the player knowing that they're going to lose the value in the end of the contract and we'll kind of look at other contracts that have sort of already been shaped like that and then in the third segment we're gonna be talking about how different Her how lindores deal is going to hell. Endure anti teases dealer really gonna shape the free agency market for all shortstops. That are coming up for free agency this year and then in the last segment we have a little bit of touchy subject with the all star game being moved out of atlanta and We're gonna look at the reasons why and then we're also going to sort of look at Potential potential spots for the all star game. They have it has yet to be announced. So with that being said we'll just get right into it so so far it Games have been sort of sort of canada. Kinda crazy honestly The yankees lost on april first in the blue jays. Three two and then and those the those are the only games that they have played so far both teams. The cleveland indians locked. The detroit tigers Three two two as well and then. The twins lost to the brewers in walk off fashion on april first is well. The pirates beat the cubs which is a little bit of surprise. There's a lot of surprises. That happened so far on Really opening day for for for a lot of teams the pirates winning is one that the tigers beating the indians is another one And the and the tigers in pirates. They're they're in rebuild mount and you know if your team loses opening day. It's not the biggest deal in the world and there's really no reason to freak out but they're still you know the same people that always kind of freak out see what's going on Like trying to figure out what was happening. In wise things are happening And your next. The atlanta braves lost to phillies a on april. First as well three to two on the first the dodgers lost to the rockies by a score of five to eight the padres beat the diamondbacks by a score of seven to eight. The cardinals beat the reds in one of the worst defensive games. I've seen played At shortstop and ina very long time with suarez for for the reds not being shortstop. They put him at shortstop and he had two years that resulted in a bunch of runs unfortunately for Lewis castio The cardinals beating the reds eleven. To six and then. The rangers lost to the royals in a very high scoring affair. Ten to fourteen and then the tampa bay rays beat the marlins won the nothing. The white sox lost you the angels on april first as well by a score of three to four. The astros beat the athletics by a score of eight to one and then going on. To the next is the giants losing to the mariners. The mariners one eight two seven and then two games were postponed The orioles and red sox were postponed due to rain and the mets and the nationals have yet to play due to code nineteen protocols on friday april second the orioles did beat the red sox in their rain delay. Make up three to nothing. The tampa bay rays law. Beat the marlins. Excuse me by a score of eight or six to four. The dodgers came back and beat the rockies eleven to six with a trevor bauer doing a very. Good job on the mound. I believe he had like ten strikeouts or something like that. And then the white sox beat the angels by a score of twelve to eight. The astros before athletics nine to five and the arizona diamondbacks loss to the san diego padres by a score of four to two and then in the last game yesterday the giants beat the mariners by a score of six to three so going into the standings the tampa bay rays are the only team to actually have played a them and the astros are the only then the astros and the padres. Excuse me are the only two team or three teams To have a tuna record so far And they are all leading their division. Obviously the raise are half game up on toronto in baltimore who are both one. Oh and then a four game up on the yankees and the red sox who are in one a piece All every team is playing today on on the day of recording april third and the ale central The detroit tigers. Kansas city royals and the v. chicago white sox and the chicago white sox all have one win. The white sox do have a loss so the royals in the tigers are a half game up on the white sox. And then cleveland in minnesota our own one so they are a four game back behind the tigers and the royals going out to the al west. The astros are to an leading the division by game with the angels and seattle. Both going one in one their game and a half. The astros are game half up on the texas rangers who are o'hanlon and then oakland is owen to obviously losing both of their games so far to the houston astros. So they're the two games back going out to the east as the phillies with a one zero record. Atlanta is owen. One in miami is owen to the mets and the nationals have yet to play a game just so Yet because the nationals dealing with some covid nineteen protocols and a few positive tests as well So they're the phillies are technically a half game up on the met in the national so far and then you go out to the nfl central. The milwaukee brewers are an machi brewers pittsburgh pirates and the saint. Louis cardinals are all tied for first with a with one. Oh they are. All three of them are a four-game on the chicago cubs cincinnati reds. Who are both owing one going out to the west. The padres have a a stranglehold will call it a. They are two and so far. And every team or the arizona diamondbacks excuse me arizona diamondbacks our own at the bottom of the division two games back and the rockies dodgers and giants are all one in one with a game back behind the padres So we're just going to look at some stats right here. I'm going to go over just a few stats to see how everybody is doing. So far and just remember everybody. this is. this is a very New season so if your team is if you're a fan of of the yankees or e or the cubs reds. Don't freak out just yet. there's nothing that's actually too worrisome. Just yet especially if you're in if you're in oakland fan there's really nothing to worry about yet. We still have either one hundred and sixty or one hundred. Sixty one baseball games to go. There's plenty of time for everybody to get settled back in and get into the swing of things so there's really nothing to just freak out about just yet so so far in average the leader is a horse lehrer. Who is batting one thousand. He had he has played in one game. He has had two at bats and has two hits. He also has two walks as well. Eric hosmer is the second leader. He is hitting eight fifty seven. He's played in two games with seven at-bats three hits two home runs. Six is one walk and he did strike out one time. And then you have paul goldschmidt. Who had had five that bat in his one game against the reds he has had four hits two doubles. No strikeouts one. Rbi and eight hundred average and will smith and to- scar hernandez A right fielder for toronto. They're both tied for fourth with a seven fifty average both of them. Having four at-bats three hits will smith has few doubles and be is hernandez only has one. But he does have a home. Run to his belt as well and Hernandez also has a strikeout. And then michael brantley. Clint frazier joey. Gallo gary sanchez are all tied for six with a sixty seven average There's really nothing to go on here. Just yet Just because Like the the the seasons so young. There's really like if eric hosmer strikes out there goes. oh for four next game. He'll be like hitting like around like the top twenty five players of league and dropped from number two like if like baseball's weird that and especially like when you have so many you have such little at-bats. Your average fluctuates quite a bit. Like he goes a he strikes out in his first at bat to On saturday The damn recording this his average is gonna drop like over one hundred point and but if he then goes and hits twice he'll be earning gets two more hits than his average will be higher than what it was before he had struck out. So it it. It's going to be the averages fluctuate quite a bit for the first For for for the first I quite a bit of the season but the league leaders in home so far eric. Hosmer alex bregman. Evan longoria kettle marseille austin meadows in buster. Posey are all tied for first both All of those players play two games and they all have two home runs and And then jose abreu tim anderson. Charlie blackmon michael brantley byron buxton drew cabrera. Miguel cabrera doing carlson. Nick castanos alex dickerson. Adam eaton yuri grill bryan hayes And then the list goes on for quite a bit actually The next Players the there are six players tied for first and then there are over thirty players tied with one home run. That is including a pablo sandoval. Gary sanchez Shohei ohtani roberto perez worked myers and then a whole bunch of other players as well like What mary field. Miguel cabrera like i said is dribble cabrera. A byron buxton The list kind of goes on In just hits michael brantley eric. Hosmer and kettle. Marseille are tied for first with six All three of them. Also have one strikeout. And eric. Hosmer michael brantley have one walk and Jose altuve aim. Mookie betts alex. Bregman paul goldschmidt. Yuli gurriel evan. Longoria gavin locks trevor story and justin turner. All tied for seventh with four hits Everybody except Oh excuse me cory seager donovan. Solano and european mercedes all tied for fourth And i i. And i would say that your men mercedes is probably the most impressive out of those because they all have five hits. But you're men mercedes has played in one game and cory seager in don donovan solano All have played in two games and Your mercedes is is tied for first in averages well with hitting one thousand at the moment And then going to stolen bases. There are two players tied for first with chris. Owings and mike taubman Owings of colorado dutchman of the yankees they both have to and then there are byron buxton wilson contrary as brandon crawford. Anthony alford Justin fowler adam. Frazier joey gallo. Robbie grossman ramon the rhino tim. Castelo and luis robert and gino's girl all tied for third with one stolen base going over to Strikeouts is There are some guys that are very that they have struck out quite a bit. So far johan moncada has had eight plate appearances to in. He is two for eight knows with six strikeouts. Then you go to martin maldonado houston catcher. He's at nine at bats has five strikeouts fernando tatis struggling so far out of the gate. He's had eight at bats. One hit and five strikeouts. Then you go to. Mike years stretchy Right fielder for the giants nine. At so far this season no hits five strikeouts one walk and dexter fowler and eduardo escobar. Have both played in two games. Escobar having Eight hits and fowler having set eight at bats excuse me and fowler having seven both of them with four strikeouts and there's a bunch of other guys with four strikeouts as well And then there shohei otani is in that as well so startling marseille they all have four strikeouts. Then there's a few guys with three strikeouts but after that It just kind of goes into a whole bunch of players. There's a bunch of guys that are So far just kind of Struggling at the plate and that's that's not uncommon to see at all Early in the season. And some of those guys are gonna be leading the league in strikeouts for the rest of the year But that's that's okay so we're gonna go now over to The pitchers we're gonna see. Who has the most strikeouts can't really go on. Wins or era. just yet. but. Shane bieber is leading the league in strikeouts with twelve. Yes he Kitschy of seattle and trevor. Bauer tied for second with ten strikeouts. Garrett cole and max freed are tied for fourth with eight strikeouts and then blake's now Heyzer slur is uh and lucas giolito. are all tied as well for fourth with eight strikeouts I would say blake. Smells is pretty impressive. Considering that Bieber went six innings. Trevor bauer went six and a third and Coochie went six innings That they have those but Garrett cole max free lucas g Giolito and the raza pitched five innings and blake. Snow pitched foreign two thirds at and they all have eight strikeouts. i think that's that's kind of impressive To see who is a chance to see who is sort of sort of dominating still out of home runs. Given up. Marco gonzalez of seattle has given up three home runs. Trevor bauer madison bumgarner. Hugh darvish jack. Flattery tim hill yes. Uc coochie and adam cholera cases. Lorenzo david price all have given up. Two home runs Prices is was given up in an inning in two thirds and Adam clark of oakland has given up those two home runs in the third of an inning. He pitched him hill of. Ceo of san diego gave up. His two home runs in a the third of an inning that he pitched as well In but like i said don't freak out just yet over some of these stats like so like every once in a while. Some pitchers leave one over the plate and sometimes a pitcher. Just actual herb. The hitter actually just beats the pitcher was a good pitch by the pitcher. Just better hitting And don't freak out yet about your standings if your team is not where. He thought they'd be. There's a there's a whole lot of baseball left. Play if you're in the nfl east and one of your competitor your philly's fan and a couple of players on the braves get hurt. That's gonna that's going to push you over the top for them like the division is so competitive that is probably that divisions probably going to go until late september at the very earliest. So give us just a moment. We'll be right back in just a second with francisco indoors deal how how it breaks down. And how it's going to affect the mets in the future. This is your ultimate staffer. Everything's sports the golden state media concepts or podcast. Should i say more from the nfl. Mlb the nba. To 'em it's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen all right in welcome into this segment of the gs. Mcc baseball podcast. My name's patrick kenny. And in this segment we're going to be talking about And kind of comparing Francisco indoors new deal to fernando tatis deal and then in the next segment. We're going to be talking about. Just how the free agency landscape is going to look for guys like have your bias and carlos carrasco For for next year and I i want to talk about a little bit. More about george springer And kind of compare it to these deals. so springer's deal is a six year hundred twenty million dollar deal if i remember correctly. And if you're a team. I think that that is a much better deal to make. Because after that if he's not performing at after your six which might be likely that he will not he he doesn't have to be re signed by the team. I think that's a much better team. Friendly deal then francisco indoors. I kind of look at lindores as more of an albert pools type of contract So lindores new deal is a ten year three hundred forty one billion dollar deal And an annual salary of thirty four point one million dollars and he will earn two point one million dollars signing bonus for all of his for every year So he is entering his age. Twenty seven season right now and it looks like erin he will be making a twenty two point three million dollars this year in new york at the age of twenty seven and then every year after that he's going to be making thirty two million dollars as a base salary. And then it's you point one million dollars signing bonus and so that means his payroll salary is thirty four point one million dollars every year from age of twenty eight and all the way through his age. Thirty seven season I i mean if your lender i completely understand. He wanted to get one million dollar or he wanted to have a contract. That was bigger than tatis deal. Anti teases deal was three hundred and forty million dollars and lindores. New deal is now three hundred and forty one million dollars I i like dot. Teases deal more than i like win. Doors deal because Tateishi deal is younger. So if you're a front office executive you want and you sign. T's not is going to be entering. I wanna say his early thirties when that deal is done whereas land door is going to be entering his age thirty seven season in his last year of in his last year So i mean outra. Pool holes has a similar contract. I think I believe that his deal was his deal. Wasn't the best deal vet. He could possibly have So he signed a ten year Two hundred and forty million dollar deal back in I wanna say twenty eleven and You want your or his contract is actually a it. Obviously it was big at the time. It's not as big a more But when you're paying a guy that much money you when you're paying a guy that much money no excuse me. It was his deal assigned in two thousand twelve but he will probably be retiring after the season So his his contract is is is kind of interesting to say the least so when you sign a player to a deal that is that big and that long you're signing him for the right now and for the couple years of future you're not signing him for his you're not signing lindores for his age thirty seven season just like the angels aren't signing albert pujols holes for his age forty one season right now. It's it's definitely kind of interesting to say to say the very least Just because like you have a a contract that is worth a lot of money and when when whole sign the contract he was the he was third year he was thirty two and he signed a ten year. Deal worth an absorbent amount of money that the angels probably should not have given him Especially considering how how much winning that they have done or lack of winning is what. I probably should say right here. I think that. I think that Pools is deal is interesting because I've said this quite a bit already. It's you buy him for the right now. You don't buy him for the years down the line and i'm You know. I really never understood that until i started listening to david. Sanson podcast and His segment on the lebatardshow and actually in his his his reasonings for for signing for why people are signing. Make a lot of sense because you want to sign the guys while they're productive and you already know that they're not going to be that productive in that good toward the end of the year or toward their toward the end of their contract. And that's not why you don't sign them for that you you already know what's gonna happen but you're trying to win right now and that's why you sign these deals. So steve. cohen is kind of I i really like Steve cohen owner He's engaged. He engages a lot with the fans on twitter. And it kinda fell while like like glendower. And and steve cohn were sort of negotiating on twitter for everyone to see and i thought that that was kind of funny. Because like you've never i've never seen that before you've never seen like negotiations like that where indoor Where there was a report. Or steve cohen. I think tweeted They had offered linda ten years. Three hundred twenty five million dollar deal and then door like quoted that tweet basically saying i'm not assigned that and then like a couple of hours later linda or had all of a sudden had a new deal and So i thought that was really really funny in pretty interesting honestly I mean door is going to be entering his prime and I I mean it's just i i i like the deal. I think it's a good deal for the mets. I think the mets are going to be a good team for the next few years And and i think that. Like i mean i just think it will be just so funny to to watch this contract age and like so i mean i there i trevor. Bauer i think has a I think has a good Sort of idea of what he wants to do. And bauer is. i think. Sort of treating himself like a mercenary right now where he's like a. I want to sign a short term deal that way. I can go somewhere else if i'm not happy and or if this team can't me the amount of money that other pitchers that are at my caliber are getting paid In the free in during free agency that he can leave and then go to that different team or a different team and and make more money whereas when door is like well i wanna get. I wanna make sure that. I have that i walk money right now. And so they go. Those are the two kind of philosophy is and i think bowers newer philosophy whereas you've seen contracts wake or massive contracts for example. Alex rodriguez contract a few urban about ten or fifteen years ago where he signed with the rangers For like two hundred and forty million dollars the biggest contract of all time at that point in time or a i or something like that it was it was it was kinda crazy that his deal deal was like the biggest deal of all time and then all of a sudden now. Everybody's getting kind of paid that kind of huge amount of money and so Lindores deal ends in. Let's see ends in twenty thirty one And it is so april first is excuse me july i is is the Is an unofficial day. That that he that bobby baena will gets paid so he last played for the mets. In and in the he last played for the mets in nineteen ninety nine And last played in the majors for the cardinals in two thousand and one. But he's still going to be paid by the mets until twenty thirty five when he's going to be seventy two years old he had a second deferred contract with the mets That paid him a million dollars for every year of his contract and he also had one with the orioles. They paid him five hundred thousand dollars a year for for twenty five years and those payments began in two thousand four so a basically baena is going to be paid still still being paid by the mets Into After for a few years after a francisco indoor is done playing at least he might be done playing baseball at that point in time or he might just be Or he might just be still he might still be in the league but his contract will be up for a for a long time and he has a fifteen team. No trade clause door does from twenty twenty one twenty twenty five and he has a full no trade clause from twenty twenty six through the remainder of his year fifty million dollars of it is deferred and he will be paid five million dollars a year after thirty one from twenty thirty two through twenty forty one so i think that it's i. His contract in his. This negotiation was was pretty interesting. Because steve cohen didn't want to go over the three hundred and twenty five million dollars for the contract and technically With that with that fifty million dollar deferred every from for the next ten years that Think that he did go over. Yeah he definitely did not go over the His his own cap because he wanted to pay three hundred and twenty. Five million dollars and lender wanted more money than t scott and so with the deferments. Lindores deal is actually only worth a little bit of that money. He's not going to be making as much money Or per on a per year basis because of those deferments but he will he will still be. He will still be paid the remainder amount of his money after the After his contract is up. So i i mean it's really just gonna depend on. How much more baseball indoor wants to play once contracts I'd say he's in a very good spot in his life After this contract is up in even for the next ten years after that But i i like. I like the deal for the mets. Because i think the mets have a really good shot at winning the world series over the next couple of years with guys like dig rahm in and were no syndergaard and And marcus stroman. And they have a decent young core. I i think that the mets might be a piece or two away and it might and they might end up beating the heck out of the padres and vice versa. For the next few years because i think both of these teams are very good teams I mean at least for the next couple of years at least in the end at least in the national league and look at when you look at these these kinds of deals it. I mean lindores deal is is. He's going to be paid twenty seven million dollars every year except for next year next year. His contract will be forty. Eight million dollars because of the technically is the signing bonus and everything plus his And in pluses his actual salary. So that's how much yearly cash he he will be making on based on his salary but on the payroll hill. Only have thirty four million dollars. yeah so so he'll make that money he'll he'll make his signing bonus money right away and then every year after that two point one million dollars of that signing bonus will be added onto his Added onto the payroll four for the mets and by the time his contract is up. His contract is worth three hundred and forty one million dollars but by the time his contract is and ends in two thousand thirty one he will made three hundred and thirteen point three million dollars of his deal and then after that he goes into his deferment and stuff like that and when you look at our pool hoses contract he does have a full no trade clause when he got and he had a whole bunch of incentives as well you when he hit three thousand When he got his three thousand hit he got three million dollar bonus. If he hit a home run record he he would have gotten seven million dollars. He got annual award. Bonus of eight hundred. Seventy five thousand dollars and ten million dollars of personal service Contact our contract paid after the plane kind after his playing contract expires so basically he gets about ten million dollars to use on like like house cleaners and drivers and security or something like that If you made an all star game that's an extra fifty thousand dollars world series. Mvp he would get one hundred thousand dollars. If he got first place in the mvp voting he would have gotten five hundred thousand dollars if he got second or third. It would have been seventy five thousand dollars and the reason that like. I don't have any information yet. On lindores new deal is because like other than the deferments and the no trade clause is that His his contract is just basically not his contract hasn't been fully released with all of the details like they're like all the bonuses and incentives and things like that just yet because it was signed just a few days ago so ten things like these kind of Come out as a later in the contract or when the contract might actually start things like that but for right now door is only going to be making twenty two million dollars this year because He's still under arbitration this year. And then after that he'll be in twenty twenty two he'll start making a whole lot more money. Even though twenty two point three million dollars is still a whole lot of money But he's still going to be making thirty four million dollars every year is. It's not likely it's not like the. Oh where he has to kind of Work a after a few years it goes up and then after a few more years it goes up again. Lindores deal is kind of just like all right. You're going to be making thirty four million dollars every year for the next few years Sort of sort of deal And so i. I mean it's just gonna be is definitely going to be super interesting to see if he resigns after twenty thirty two And i mean he'll still beginning all of that deferred money after this year in the past When he was still with the cleveland indians when he had signed in two thousand eleven he made a two million dollars in his contract in two thousand fifteen that was his signing bonus to be in the minors when he made the bigs in two thousand fifteen. It was five hundred thousand. Five hundred and twenty f-. Excuse me two thousand sixteen. It was five hundred forty thousand twenty seventeen five hundred and seventy nine twenty eighteen six hundred thousand and then twenty nineteen he finally gets make arbitration and the indians had to pay him ten million dollars and then in twenty twenty he had to make in arbitration. He made seventeen point five and then Last year his his contract obviously wasn't as much as the twenty million dollars that he was supposed to make Because of kovin and all of those so we ended up actually only making about Six million dollars In two thousand and twenty so this is really his first year that he's actually going to be able to make some some real money off of how good he has been. I mean he. He's about to make more money. This season with the cleveland indians and then in the six seasons that he made In the six seasons that he was with. The cleveland indians The with those six seasons he made nineteen million dollars with a two million or two point nine million dollars signing bonus which combines into a twenty one point nine million dollar deal This year alone. He'll be making twenty two point three million dollars with the mets. I mean and he's a two time gold glove award winner. He's definitely. I would say that he's honestly better than totti's right now and then. That's just because we we haven't even seen friends or fernando tatis. Junior play a full year yet so i think that he's going to be. I think that this deal is good for lender and good for the mets for probably the next five years or so Don't go anywhere in just a second. We're gonna see how lindores deal is going to affect the shortstop market for the rest of the upcoming shortstops in free agency. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen close and here at this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The golden state media concepts podcast network is here nothing less than podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast coverage from news sports music fashion looking entertaining fantasy football and so much more so stop blurted around and go straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed ville. That podcast is whatever. It may be visit us at. Www dot mc podcast dot com. Follow us on facebook and twitter and download on itunes soundcloud and google play as as all righty and welcome back into this segment of today's episode. This one or just going to be kind of looking at the free agency landscape for next year after obviously after the season for specifically shortstops and seeing how that deal is going to Sort of shake up how much these these guys are going to be able to make And obviously You can't just go based off of the twenty twenty season because guys like cory seager and trevor story were fantastic whereas lind door was okay and then korea in heavier says a down year so if you kinda just got to take that with a grain of salt like if you have a a pitcher that david sampson county use this example as well on the lebatardshow last thursday's episode For them and he said that basically if you're player had a really good season and And say he's a pitcher. It had a really good season. And you're in so the froth is probably thinking oh this guy is going to be really good this year Because of how much or how did he was. the pre. the previous season am if your guy had a down year so he was like a right handed hitting outfielder. You're thinking oh well you can't just take your sixty game samples a super small sample size. If he's a christian yelich you're like oh he's definitely gonna bounce back this year he can hit. He can hit what he hit like. I think it was like around like low. Two hundred almost the mendoza line. If i'm remembering correctly what he would hit last year if you can have that for six games and still hit above three hundred for the year because that's just the kind of talent that the guy has so you kinda just have to take what happened last year with a grain of salt and then kind of go into this one with a a or this season in this free agency with more of an open mind and then use this season and then like the the twenty seventeen through twenty nineteen season as well to see really who he is. So you have heavier byas who has a one sixteen opium plus in twenty from twenty seventeen to twenty one thousand nine hundred and then in twenty twenty. He had the will he was the weakest hitter regular hitter in the national league and he blamed it both on a lack of access to in game video and a lack of fans in the seats. i mean. It didn't affect his defense either. He still one of the best defensive shops in baseball for the last few years And then you have guys like carlos correa who is going to be twenty seven in two thousand twenty two Heavier buys is going to be twenty twenty nine next year Cray obviously was the first overall pick in twenty twelve and he has done a great job Since making it to the big leagues in is one of the few players that have been worthy of that of that number one overall pick I mean obviously picks don't go all the way don't always work out especially first round picks and there's always that pressure of there's always just so much more pressure when you are the number one pick and he has had a variety of injuries Since two thousand twelve but he has had more than five hundred plate appearances in season. But he's only had more than five hundred plate appearances in that in one season Twenty sixteen where he had over six hundred and he still got a career opie s a opiates plus of one twenty six and twenty twenty season. It he just was just blow average to like almost just not having a great year I mean he did have a really strong on a season where he had six home runs and I mean so. He is a very consistent hitter. He's a very good player. Like there's there's no doubt about that. He's a very good player I mean in houston did offer him a six year. One hundred and twenty million dollar deal recently although he did not appreciate that offer at all and doesn't really want to negotiate in season so he did turn down that offer and it's probably probably just going to go and test free agency I think that he'll probably be back with the astros. Twenty twenty two. That's my that's my guess. But i don't know if he is really going to be able to to get back there and then cory seager he's going to be twenty. Eight and twenty twenty two in two thousand sixteen in two thousand seventeen. He really looked like he was going to be a superstar in this league But he had a hip surgery and an elbow surgery in two thousand eighteen that just kind of Limited his impact in two thousand nineteen and then in twenty twenty. He was back to who he was as a player prior to his injuries he had a in twenty twenty. He had a one fifty two. Opiates plus and hit eight home runs on the dodgers run all the way to the title and was named the mvp both the us and the world series and it's kind of a long shot that I mean he he could be third baseman. but he's a really good defender at shortstop. I i think if he stays with the dodgers When once justin turner retires or signs with the different team i mean. Turner is getting up there in age that they'll probably move him over to to third base There's really nothing going on The extension rumor For him The dodgers have reportedly made efforts to get a deal done. But there really hasn't been much talk and they also have to figure out what they're gonna do with guys like cody bellinger and walker bueller in the next few seasons. And but mookie betts is definite is locked up for the next decade. That is a contract that i did forget to talk about a little bit in the last segment. But mookie betts is has signed a very big deal as a just this past or not this past off season but the the off season before that So i mean they have. The dodgers have a lot of young talent and there might not be enough money to keep everybody there. I think one of the guys that's probably going to be gone. Maybe not after this season but probably after the twenty twenty two season as trevor bauer Just because his contract the way his contract is structured is it's front loaded And so he's getting most of his money in the first two years and then in the third year if he were to opt in to his player option it would be. It would not be nearly as much money So i i mean the. The dodgers have a lot of money tied up in a few players. And so you're gonna have to sort of Pick who who they're gonna wanna have if they and they might be they might be able to keep both cody bellinger and cory seager as well as walker. Bueller you there. There's going to be a lot of i th. They're going to have to do a lot of bookkeeping magic. I think to to be able to keep all three of those guys Up next is trevor story. This year. he'll be twenty twenty year. He'll be twenty nine in twenty twenty two in one of the best all around shortstops in the game. He has had a opiates plus of over one. Twenty two over the past three years while also being one of the best defenders as at the position adding value on the basis and only seven players have stolen more bases During the twenty from twenty twenty or excuse me from two thousand eighteen through twenty twenty he is he's stolen sixty five basis Since then and he has a decent or he has the average home road split the you would expect from a rockies player where he obviously hits a lot better at chorus field in colorado but there he's still a decent player outside of that. I mean Dj lamaze you was is a very good example of of somebody that goes to a different place He's with the yankees right. Now goes to a different place and is still just as good So i mean definitely playing colorado helps you hit the ball a little bit better With the thin air the ball tends to travel a little bit farther so there is that but there is a. It would be a surprise. If trevor story made it through this year without being traded Because like there there's really just nothing that that that is left for them to be there. There's really nothing left for trevor story. Really want after. What happened with nolan. Air nado And in the fiasco that surrounded him during all of last season and then also during Also during the offseason as well in trevor story unfortunately always had to answer the questions. About what do you think about this and this about knowing air nado might be traded to this team. What are your thoughts on that. He he kind of has to say well if he is trading traded like. There's nothing that he can do or control with that. I do think that probably be traded this season. i just don't know who aware because Emmy edge don't know who were aware is it would would trade for him Mostly because of like like Like i mean all the contenders i think. are like they kind of have shortstop locked up Maybe potentially the yankees But the braves have dance be swanson. The dodgers have cory seager. The padres have Fernando tatis junior. The mets have The mets have francisco endure who've been talking about The i would. I mean maybe maybe to an american league team Maybe i mean but the. The twins traded for out on simmons Or excuse me signed out on so they have a short. They have a good shortstop I mean i. I would say that. Maybe the team at needs a shortstop the most right now would b