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"michael bay" Discussed on Cinemavino
"Oh God, Jackie. And what's the one where he's like reading a story to his kids and go on adventures? I just didn't watch the movie click. Well yeah, clip with the remote and there was the cobbler. Cobbler. It's about making shoes or is about pie. If it's pie, I don't know, he was making shoes. Okay. Honestly. After little Nicky, I did not really subscribe to his career. Are you saying you didn't like it? I did not. Punch drunk love, I think, was maybe the last film. Yeah. And Philip. I dropped Paul Thomas Anderson's name to my wife because I watched the movie ambulance, which was atrocious. I actually wanted to see that. I think I could have told you it was going to be atrocious. I mean, I'm not a Michael Bay fan. I'm not a Jake Gyllenhaal fan to be honest. Besides, don't need to work out. I wasn't a fan of living for about two hours. You know that meme like the nightmare rotation meme. Jake Joan hall makes it. If you post for three or four people that you would just like not want to be in a blunt rotation with. Jake Gyllenhaal is high on that way. Is he a Bogart, you think? Yeah. I just know you're going to get it and it's going to be very wet. He's going to, he's going to be missed. It's going to be slobbery. Pretty much miss lippy. Yeah, we're talking about Michael Bay and it's like he does the whip pan in movies, where it's like, you know, the camera whips around. But which is great if you're talking about cobblers, whip pants sounds delicious. Is he with his pans back and forth? It's like, you can't make a good whisk without a good whip pan. That's right. But no Paul Tom was Anderson does talk about love.
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"michael bay" Discussed on The Big Picture
"I think also the subsequent movies went in a direction of surreality that kind of dampened my enthusiasm maybe for some of the bullet time stuff. And it's also been ripped off so much, which a lot of these movies have, but I would just say the matrix obviously. And then there are a bunch of action movies where it's like die hard it might be the best action movie ever made. I don't know if there's any one sequence from die hard that I think is like iconic and be jumping off the roof is pretty big. The helicopter attack, et cetera, but I don't know if I would be like, man, that die hard scene changed everything. It's more like the movie itself is what kind of yeah, I thought about this with a lot of the older films too. You know, I mentioned Eastwood and Eastwood obviously made almost exclusively action movies for ten years. Yeah, Schwarzenegger movies, yeah. Yeah, a lot of those movies they don't always have the sequences that I'm looking for here. You know, we didn't really mention Star Wars. Star Wars actually famed what would be your Star Wars one? Well, I'll tell you, I didn't see the originals in theaters, obviously. I did actually when they were rereleased, but I didn't see them the first time around. So it probably would be the dual the fates in episode one, which is not really a great movie, but it is a great fight prison the prison barge escape in Jedi, where it is the backflip. Yeah, that's pretty great. That is pretty great. I don't know. Two guys in their 40s talking about Star Wars action scenes. I want to say the card sequence from solo. You know, when we see Lando's backstory, that's probably my favorite action sequence from those films. What do you Nelson's hair in solo? Solo rewatchable? Actually, solo has an incredible train sequence. Yeah. Ron Howard. Yeah, so I'll have some decent stuff in it. You know what's another one I thought of that it felt like a little odd to put it on a list like this, but kind of the opening 20 minutes of children of men when the siege happens on the car and the car is driving backwards. That's a pretty amazing. I felt the same way. The last scene of captain Phillips, like there's stuff where you're just like, yeah, that's like, that was gripping. There's something I was looking for a certain soul of the sequence though, like a certain this had stunt work. This had violence, this had maybe some special effects, but it also had tension, I don't know. I was trying to find the perfect thing, but you know, you could go back to the flight of the valkyries in Apocalypse Now. Incredible sequence, you know? Do you think that the CR heads will be disappointed you did not include the bank heist and shootout and no, but I think I explained myself. You know what I mean? I think a pure shootout, even though you could say.
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"michael bay" Discussed on The Big Picture
"Saying, where's bean? Why does he wear the mask? Yeah. No one is truly a master. What's your number one? Is that a weird number one? Do you think that what you're describing is the wow factor? Yeah. You know, when you're in a movie theater and you're like, I can't believe this is happening. Yeah. And no matter how you feel about The Dark Knight or how representative it is or is not of the history of action movie making. I had the same reaction to you as that scene, which is just like, God damn. That just took me away. That just took me out of my body out of my life, but it still has actual drama. Like when ledger is like stalking towards that motorcycle coming at him at full speed and he's just like, come on. Yeah. No, it's a part of telling the story of the movie. No question. My number one is a little bit of a cheat. Because it's a 35 minute sequence. But it's probably the most excited I've ever been in a movie in my entire life. It's the bride versus the crazy 88s and kill Bill volume one. Hell yeah, brother. Now here's what's good about this scene. Everything about it is good about it. It basically gets to stand in for an entire history of fighting films. Especially of course, you know, Kung fu films and the huge influence that they have on Quentin Tarantino. There is direct homage to Bruce Bruce Lee in the Uma Thurman costume. There's direct homage to the Shaolin films by having Gordon Lou be one of the crazy 88s. There's direct homage to a lot of the Shaw brothers movies and chang'e movies and the 5 deadly venoms. There's all kinds of reference points if you love those movies and know about them. So I cite this sequence as kind of representative of my love for all these movies, which I was turned on to largely by following Quentin and listening to Quentin talk about how much he loved those movies. And also there is a Wu Tang, which is a huge thing for us. And if you listen to the Wu Tang in the mid 90s, you were constantly hearing snatches of dialog from those movies and trying to figure out where they came from. But the sequence is something else too. It's not just homage. It is, it's like a leveling up. It is also a reference to the incredible wire work that started to go into this stuff and also Quentin taking on mass scale in a movie. Something he had never done before and saying like, I have, you need to emphasize this. He directs reservoir dogs, that's got the shootout in the flashback of them getting the diamonds out. There are some sequences in like there's some shooting sequences in Pulp Fiction. There's obviously all this stuff with Butch getting in and out of the building to get his dad's watch back and everything. There's Jackie Brad, which has basically no action sequences. There was no precedent to say that Quentin Tarantino could make an operatic action movie the way he did here. And there are a number of amazing moments that you know, the battle early in the movie, the fight sequence with vernita green, the Vivek a fox character, is also breathtaking, but it's brief in its intimate. This is a, this is a video game style sequence. It is bad guy after bad guy, big bad after big bad coming at the bride..
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"michael bay" Discussed on The Big Picture
"Like he was kind of doing this 2025 years before he made fury road or however long ago before he made fury road. George Miller is really probably up there with, I guess, freaking and frankenheimer and a couple of other people. The best car chase vehicle directors out there in film history and I don't know. Do you have a preference between the two? Are you just like a fury road head or do you like road warrior? I didn't grow up with road warrior. Okay. No one showed that to me when I was a teenager. And so because of that, I think I'm much more interested in beyond ThunderDome and fury road because those were the ones that were obviously beyond ThunderDome as on TV a lot when I was growing up for sure. And fury road is just one of the great was one of the great moviegoing experiences of the last 25 years. But obviously I have a ton of respect for you talked about invention and kind of what Spielberg invented. And I think that this kind of like antic road movie. You can see the influence and the Coen brothers and Sam Raimi and a ton of other filmmakers who I love are like borrowing and biting what George Miller does. I mean George Mueller also still active in his 80s has a movie coming out this year called 3000 years of longing and is planning and plotting the furiosa another Mad Max movie that is so crazy that he's still doing it and still doing it at this level. So I guess fury road would probably be my preference out of all of them. What's your number two? Number two is another movie that probably was inspired by George Miller and has gone on to inspire many movies, including the movie that we just talked about for 40 minutes on this pod. Terminator two, truck chase sequence, the T 1000 is chasing Edward Furlong through the LA river basin, and then the terminator Arnold Schwarzenegger shows up on a motorcycle, it's kind of hard to watch this scene and not see the reams and reams of homage and parody that have come after it, but this is, to me, this is the native son. You know, this is the original sin. This is the thing where the iconography of action movie filmmaking that starts in the 1990s really begins at this specific moment. It's not that James Cameron didn't have incredible moments before this and the terminator and aliens and the abyss. It's not that there wasn't Steven Spielberg stuff. It's not that there wasn't, you know, like you said in the Sam Peckinpah in the world. But the shift from perfectly blending VFX with pure practical filmmaking happens here. When the truck hits the skid and flips, it's really happening. You can see literally insulation from the inside of the truck after the roof is ripped off when it hits the divider. It's real shit. There's detail in the mess. And in addition to it being really exciting and the big explosion behind Arnold and furlong when they're on the motorcycle after the truck.
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"michael bay" Discussed on The Big Picture
"If they're making fight scenes like this, everybody has to get better. I feel that way about a couple of more sequences on my list actually, so that's a great metaphor. What's your number three? I wanted to have something from big gym. From Jim Cameron. Bated breath waiting for Avatar 2, man. Whenever you're fucking ready. But can you go back in your gym bag? What did Jim say on the set of your pick here? How did he describe how he wanted the sequence to play out? So here's the thing that Jim does. It sometimes the action sequence is not about the action. And I wanted to have something where it's like, it's not all about bodies flying all over the place or explosions or violence. The thing that's great about the first hive attack in aliens. Is the sound. So in case you don't remember, basically these marines have gone into a colony to save a bunch of space colonists where there doesn't seem to be any living person around. They're looking around. They're told they have to not use their nuclear machine guns sick invention because it will set off like the reactors that are all around them. So they're only got pump shotguns and handguns and strong language as one of the marines says and they're tracking movement with these trackers that he uses so well throughout the movie, the sound and like and it's Paxton, it's being and then Sigourney Weaver is sort of watching them from a truck on a screen. And they can see that there is movement all around them, but they don't know where it's coming from and they don't know what's going on. And the tension that builds up until the first marine gets yanked into the wall by an alien and then all the aliens start jumping out and making those crazy shrieking elephant noises is just like, it's almost unbelievable, but I wanted to have something here that was an action sequence that goes right up to the point of action. This is the important part. Yeah, that sequence reminds me a lot of going and grabbing my daughter when she won't sleep at 3 o'clock in the morning, actually. It's very similar noise that she makes. Amazing scene, I think that's the thing is not all of these have to be explosive. Cameron, though, he is also really, really good at the explosive. I feel like he also kind of modernized explosions. I'll get to that very shortly. My number three does have VFX in it, probably still to me the single most impressive feat of computer generated imagery. It's the T. Rex escape from Jurassic Park. Rewatch this on a giant TV last night. It still looks amazing. We're on the 30 year anniversary of Jurassic Park. I mean, it's still plays, right? That's just like a dinosaur is there. It is perfect. It's shocking how perfect it is. And there is that there's that.
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"michael bay" Discussed on The Big Picture
"But ultimately that's where this movie goes from this is like a straightforward taste movie to what the fuck is going on. Is this an urban war film? Because there is a whole other component where this gang that poppy's gang takes on the cops and it is honestly batshit what they do. It's completely crazy. It is the Michael Mann bookend to the opening bank robbery, too. In terms of the noise and the intensity and the number of shells that are unloaded onto the ground of the LA streets. This is a remarkable film. Is it a good movie? Hey, so we're doing this on Friday. This is going to come out on Monday, right? Yeah. I saw in Balinese newsletter. He was like, we'll see if this makes double digits at the box office. That's crazy to me. And if it doesn't, does that spell the end of Michael Bay as a big time filmmaker? I really hope that that's not the case. It's sort of strange with everything going on in terms of wanting certain filmmakers to be seen and, you know, you see like Mike Lee, like I can't get $2 million to make a movie, you know, please fund my movies. And we're like, it's important that Michael Bay gets $40 million to make ambulance too. But it is kind of important to me that movies like this exist, 'cause I think part of the reason why we like it so much is we're sitting there and we're like, I am never going to have to care about these people ever again. Nor do I have to know anything about them. This is not part of a larger franchise. This isn't about anything else, but these two motherfuckers trying to get across LA. That's such a great insight. One, it is not a part of an 8 part miniseries that we're tracking over the course of two months. Two, it is not an investigation of the human soul. I think it's a sincere movie in a lot of ways, but who really cares about the characters. It means nothing. I do think it is representative of bay's full transition into The Old Guard. You know, it is a movie that feels like somebody who was a movie that feels like it was made by somebody who was making movies in the 90s in a way that say the Fast & Furious movies really do not. They feel like movies that are made with computer generated images in mind. You literally can't make those movies without computer generated images. He seems to be challenging himself here to use as little VFX as possible. A few people have noted that this movie has very short credits because there's not a lot of VFX work. Which is interesting. But I think you know bay is he's a craftsman, you know? And he innovated for a long time. And so there's something fascinating about him kind of going into his dotage. As far as whether or not he's going to keep making these movies or not and whether he can. I mean, open a movie against Sonic the Hedgehog two at your own peril, you know?.
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"michael bay" Discussed on The Big Picture
"There's something wrong with him. There's something wrong with him. And I don't know why he's attracted to those characters, but he is so he has so much fun playing them. And in this movie, there's really something wrong with Danny sharp, you know? He is a nutty bank robber and the son of a legendary bank robber, and he understood the assignment, and that's part of what makes the movie so fun. Another movie that another moment that was genuinely shocking to me and was even more shocking when you told me who this actor was was when that FBI agent that we talked about shows up. At an hour and a half in the movie. And I guess he's a, he runs the bank robbery division of the FBI, which I guess is a decision. There's some holes in my resume. This actor is named keir O'Donnell, and he reveals after a long speech about understanding Danny sharp's motivations that in fact he and Danny went to college together and her friends. Which is like truly self aware, oh shit, it's on now action movie making. A lot of fun. But this is made even better by the fact that kero Don, the actor, is in fact, who? He's the younger brother from wedding crashers that falls in love with Vince Vaughn and paints him. It's one of the most amazing castings I've ever seen. Since then, and he's great in this movie. And really the whole thing with him being friends with Danny sharp, they went to the university of Maryland together. Yeah, they studied criminology. Yeah, and Danny had only gone there as like a mole to gather information on how people pursue criminals and then he disappeared after sharing a bottle of rose with this guy. That's actually why I study journalism was just to study you. Just to get close to me. This guy is like, here's the twist he used to be my friend. And the entire time, it just creates a moment, a world in which Garrett dillahunt, who is essentially dressed like Lincoln Riley, the head coach of the USC Trojans. He just wears all USC gear. Even though he is in charge of the S.W.A.T. team going after the bank robbers, it just exists as an excuse for Garrett Dillon to be like, your buddy is about to get a lot of people killed and then he goes, they're not my Friends. That's the entire, it has no dramatic reason. It's just so that those two guys can scream into each other about it. You have to have a certain level of foreknowledge going into a movie like this. For example, cops hate FBI agents. This is something we've learned from watching action movies for the last 30 years. Yes. And so because of those problems, we get moments like dillahunt calling kiro Donald Doogie Howser and Kyra Donald replying, I don't know who that is, boomer. Yeah. This is the kind of generation gap comedy that I come to Michael Bay films for. Any other moment you want a site? I mentioned the drone going underneath the ambulance. I will just say that as you alluded to about midway through the movie, a phone call is made and the person who picks up is a man, a character named poppy. Poppy is standing on the roof claims to be watching this car chase somehow. I'm not really sure how it doesn't seem like he has like a perfectly unencumbered view of all of Los Angeles, but he's watching the car chase. Poppy is played by the legendary soap opera actor a Martinez. An iconic figure. There is an additional plot about how poppy apparently owes the Zetas, the cartel in Mexico money, hence setting up why he may.
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"michael bay" Discussed on The Big Picture
"Guess we've got that technology going for us. I use a Gonzalez contacts her ex-boyfriend who's not happy to hear from her. And she explains to him that she needs to take a bullet out of a cop's chest. And then that doctor calls to conferences. You guys from a golf course who are trauma surgeons and are like word, let's get after this. I could definitely imagine calling you while you were at a golf course and being like whatever thing you think you could help me with and you being like, God damn it, Chris. I'm one under. What would be an example of that? Like an emergency podcast. I can't even imagine. So that sequence is truly incredible. It is gas inducing, it is thrilling. It is really exciting. And it is also very funny. This movie is very, very very. This is where I let out my big gasp. And this is also, this will separate, just to separate the wheat from the chaff, as far as viewers in this audience, if you go along with this, you're in for it if you can't handle it, I don't blame you. Should we say what happens in this scene or you want to make sure people I'd like people to get together. Let's just say that Michael Bay applies the rules of yes and everything that you think when they're like, I really hope this doesn't happen, it happens. What's a moment that blew your mind from this movie? Well, I mean, I think that it's worth talking about Jake Gyllenhaal. And Jake Gyllenhaal has a specific moment where Isaac Gonzalez hoses him down with a fire extinguisher and he's basically looks like he's just jumped into a bag of cocaine, which is good because that's also what seems to be happening with his performance. This route this movie. And it's been a while since I've seen someone truly embrace the madness of being in a bay movie, you know?.
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"michael bay" Discussed on The Big Picture
"Now, it might give you a heart attack. If you have a heart condition, you probably should not see this movie because it is pushing it so hard, but I genuinely think it's an incredible achievement. Now, he combines the technological leaps of everything we've done. I've not been a part of this development process. Everything people have done with these drone cameras and making cameras smaller. Faster and four K and being able to and also like the mass distribution of it so that people who are like, yeah, I like to go to Croatia and jump off cliffs and film it, you know, like that's, that's now kind of into the film lexicon, the film language of what they bring to movies, but what Michael Bay does that nobody else can do is he's like, I know the stunt guys. I know the explosive explosives rigors. I know the drivers. I know like, this is my guy I like to use when I blow rocks up. And he brings them into that using that camera and is like, what if we flew the drone under the ambulance as it flips over? That's the thing that the guy on YouTube or basically everybody else in the world can't do. They can't figure out how to do that. I will say, this film is a bit long. Yeah. We haven't even said ease of Gonzalez's name yet. We haven't. She plays the EMT, who has the hero of the movie? Yes. Who has a stormy backstory? She's one of the people who's taken hostage as well as a police officer who has been shot. There's also a lot of kind of thorny conversation we can have about what this movie's politics may or may not be. I tend to think that aside from a kind of obvious billowing American flag nationalism, Michael Bay doesn't have a lot of politics, you'd think in a movie like this, there would be some discussion about power and law enforcement. And it seems like at first no police officers, for example, are going to be killed on screen. Yeah. And then that pretty radically changes. And then our empathy and sympathy with the main characters shifts pretty radically over time, depending on who is in the center of the frame. I use a Gonzalez is really the only person who is who we're meant to sympathize with fully and completely throughout the story. Yes. Even though she's a person who has a dead heart, that's something that this is told to us over and over again. Not literally. No other characters do have dead hearts in this movie..
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"michael bay" Discussed on The Big Picture
"This movie. After I interviewed bay back in 2011, I want to say, I had to drive from the east side to the west side to go meet up with him. I think we met up at his gym and we met up at the lobby of his gym. And I got lost on the way, because I wasn't living in LA at the time. And I found myself trapped on trying to shift from the one O 5 to the four O 5. And this movie, I would say, does not have a lot of respect for the geography of Los Angeles. There is not a lot of traffic. There is not. He has a convoy of police cars clearing out the highlights. But even in the earliest stages of the film, now, of course, there are in an ambulance so they can turn on their flashers. But still realism is still not really in Michael Bay's grasp or interest set. So you had a problem with the traffic. It was the traffic that bothers you not like when 70 cars seem to arrive in an open parking lot full of piles of concrete that they all flip off or smash into because I don't know about you if you've looked around Los Angeles and seen like, is that like the place where they built SoFi? They just started driving around there or something. One of my favorite things about this was the multiplicity of food stands that were smashed into. Dude, come on, you know he had to do it to us. So much. So much. It's a bloating mangoes up. There's like one point where they're driving through the LA convention center. Like parking lot or like underground of it and everything that's being delivered, it's like kinson yerra dresses limes. Everything is like the most colorful, beautiful thing that just gets fucking run over. Let's talk about the music a little bit. I was reading some criticism of the movie and people described Lorne valves score as overheated and too obvious. And let me just tell you that that is an incorrect opinion. Get the fuck out of here. What do you want from life? Did you want Charles mingus to be playing while they're doing this?.
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"michael bay" Discussed on The Big Picture
"Is that Michael Bay is not great on story. He's not great on picking projects that have great scripts. He's not on crafting character. And I think one of the reasons he's clearly derided is because he tends to make these kind of cookie cutter portraits of figures that are dutiful but forced to do things that they wouldn't otherwise do in their normal lives. This movie is as guilty of that as any movie he's ever made. This is not a realistic portrayal of two brothers. It's not a realistic portrayal of a bank robbery. It's not a realistic portrayal of a car chase. It is not there's no depths of the soul in this movie. It is pure experience. And I think that's okay. I'm completely, I feel unencumbered by typical movie criticism and in terms of engaging with his movies. I don't either. Whether or not this is a repeat viewing and I just want to stress like in case we need to because we'll talk about the music and some of the set pieces coming up, but please if you're able to go see this in a movie theater. Sean and I had honestly perfect seats. I usually sit on the aisle. We sat right in the middle and I feel like I got a haircut during this match. I could not believe how intensely loud it was and how much a part of the chase you feel if you go see this on a big screen with giant crazy speakers. The problem with bay is that he doesn't say, you know what? This is going to be almost like a French new wave crime film where we're not even going to address who the guy and the villain are. He really gets into the relationship of Danny and Willy or will the two characters and goes so far as to make like weird propaganda films about their childhood like that get intercut throughout the movie where they're seemingly like two boys living in the 1950s wearing chuck taylors and sitting on the hood of studebakers and flying paper airplanes, even though I think they would just be kids in the 90s at this point. I don't know where they would have grown up but not that long ago and definitely not on the set of hoosiers, which is what it looks like they grow up on. Then he adds on like a whole other layer where their father who we are never introduced to nor C in flashback or anything is a master bank robber. And then on top of that, there is all these other familial storylines that are like driving it. Now, you could just say, like, this guy has a waifu needs money. He's got a brother who's a thief. They go into business together for one time only and then everything goes wrong. Like, that's all you need to know about the setup. But he adds on a ton of like, I'm in my, I'm in my Terrence malick bag right here, and it's really stupid. Thank God. Then he starts throwing drones at people's heads and brings the cartel into it. And it just goes from there. Well, it's even deeper than that because this is a true hat on a hat movie. So it's the kind of movie that is unafraid. 40 minutes in to introduce a new character. 60 minutes in to introduce a new character. 80 minutes in to introduce a new character. We have traditional uniformed law enforcement in the movie. They play a big part, one of the cops has taken hostage..
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"Are the movies where I feel like he is actually strangely able to show off his chops significantly better than something like transformers or even 6 underground. So why is the filmmaking in this movie better or a return to former? How would you describe the way that bay makes the movie? Well, I think that he's able to actually make you feel things physically. Like I think for all the leaps that we've made in digital VFX for all the amazing things you may see in any given blockbuster at any given time over the last few years. It often doesn't feel like an ambulance is about to hit you, you know? It doesn't feel like a car is about to flip on top of you. It doesn't feel like you've been thrown off of a roof and are descending down into a bank robbery scenario. A lot of it may have to do with the narratives of the stories that they're telling. So you may have a situation where you're just watching a tree and a raccoon, like going off to battle Thanos, and that might not feel real. But this for all of its insanity feels very real to me. I mean, there are car chases in Los Angeles. I've never seen one quite like this. But this movie is for his referential is to bay is a deeply deeply referential movie about LA. There's a lot of shouting out about different roads they're taking, what highways they're taking. Even past hugely famous sort of car chases and bank robberies in LA itself. And so in my head, I was kind of thinking this is really his LA movie, more than anything else. And I think probably for the two of us, as bay fans who live in Los Angeles, there was an extra kick to it. But if I had to distill what it is he does, that's so special. He's the guy who might blow up his movie star. You know, he's the guy who actually puts people pretty much in harm's way, like not really, but it seems like that's really an explosion. It seems like that's really a squib blowing up right by this person. It seems like that car really hit another car. Yeah, one of the interesting things about this film, if you read a bit about the production of the movie, is he seems to have loosened his grip a little bit. In the past, bay is well known for a kind of authoritarian filmmaking style. He's a little bit more of a John Ford than he is, I don't know, a Barry Jenkins. And in this one, it seems like he was more open to improvisation than ever. In some cases he even handed the camera to Jake Gyllenhaal to shoot. Because a lot of the film takes place in these incredibly closed quarters of the back of an ambulance. And to your point, it very much is his LA movie, and it also is very much his response to, I think, a decade of action filmmaking. So the movie overtly references heat, clearly is inspired and riffing on collateral and training day. And that's really the triumvirate I would say of LA crime movies in the last 20 years. Would you agree with that? Yeah, there's a bank robbery. And they're stuck in a car and it is kind of like this two hander of who is going to kind of come out on the other side of this relationship..
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"This is Dave Chang and Chris Ying, we are the hosts of recipe club. You may have listened to it before, but we are now back on the air new and improved with the same host that lose every week. I still don't know what the rules are because they've changed as well. Chris, can you give a quick rundown? Every week, we debate the best way to cook the things you want to eat. We take a user, listener, submitted recipe, and we all cook it with our friends, Priya Krishna, Rachel Kong, Brian Ford and John Dubai. And then we talk about what went right and went went wrong. No, I actually really don't want to do this podcast. And they're hardly our Friends. They are enemies. They are enemies. It's Dave civil disobedience. If you want to see Dave Chang in an act of civil disobedience, tune into recipe club where he will not follow the recipe. I'm contractually obligated to make this podcast. But I'm here to have a good time. So listen to recipe club. Every week, on the ringer podcast network. I'm Sean fantasy and this is the big picture, a conversation show about bay hem. That's right, Michael Bay is back on the big screen with ambulance, a thrilling nonstop cornucopia, of explosions, car chases, shootouts, bank robberies, emergency bullet removal surgeries. So today on the show we're talking bay and our favorite action movie sequences of all time. Who else to do it with, then my adopted brother, who came off the streets of LA into the home of my bank robber father, only to later serve in the military and return home looking for a decent job with good pay to support his family, only to get caught up in this crazy scheme with me on a podcast. It's my brother, Chris Ryan, hi Chris. I gave everything to this country. And this is how they repay me. Chris, today is a holiday for us. We are avowed. I don't want to say defenders 'cause I don't believe he needs defense. He is a defensive his own kind. We are supporters of the work of Michael Bay. Yeah. In general, I would say Michael Bay has been in a bit of a lull. We did enjoy his 2019 movie 6 underground, which was released only on Netflix..
"michael bay" Discussed on SpyHards Podcast
"If we can swear on this podcast and i know have certainly done it. You you've done like twenty miles now. Explicit is supposed to be. It's supposed to be visceral that style. You feel like you of the action. I completely get that but this fourteen cuts for jumping over a fence. Which is the exact number. I know it's a main but that is a twelve too many and it completely removed you from the film completely removed from it. You just know you're watching someone who's not very good at directing. Yeah it's like he doesn't know how to stage the action so the editor has to work with what they have and they're cutting it really fast. It feels like to disguise these things. It's just looks awful. And i mean there's a car chase in this that i think megaton said was the most challenging aspect of the whole movie to shoot. Was this big freeway chase. Where you have like a container truck flipping over and things like that. And i'm like once again. It looks impressive. In terms of the fact they flipped a truck but like the geography of the chase is a nightmare. You have no idea where one cars in relation to the other and see. You're kind of watching things happen. It doesn't feel like it's propulsion so again it's like a guy who's not good action. I don't like the thing is olivia megaton. I'm sure is very talented. Visually he would have to be like maybe he needs to be making art films or something but like action is clearly not his thing. I just think it doesn't interest him at all. Probably not i think don't think of truck flips. I just think of the night. It's basically a one shot. You see that truck sleep over. The camera holds on it more or less. I think you get one or two cuts but that whole accuracy joe talking about cam it's relentlessly cutting around it and i lost it by that point. I watched this film twice. Rug alled to pay attention to even the second time. When that container truck starts flipping it actually looks like it's flipping by itself because you can't really make sense of other cars hitting it or anything. It looks like this truck is just doing roles in place. It's very strange so eager listeners. Since this is such a big discussion. I think that the later two films and should be something that you get some married out of a you should find some insight over talking about otherwise. What was this all about. Except for to make your worship better but take a look at the honestly i would say any chase by michael bay but primarily the bad boys two freeway chase which i would say is one of the best car chases of all time at least top five. It stays away.
Your Weekly Tech Update with Ray McNeal (audio podcast)
Disney Animators Debut New Netflix Film 'Dragon's Lair'
"Bluth Goldman and John Palmer Roy, another animator who left Disney to work with bluth are producing this. Netflix confirmed the report on Twitter. Dragon's lair isn't a very big on plot. Princess Daphne has been kidnapped by the dragon singe and is being held in the fortress of the evil wizard mardock, and Dirk the daring, a bold, vaguely dumb witted night, crashes the castle to rescue her. The game itself doesn't provide any greater depth because it's basically a series of rapid fire QuickTime events. That means the writers have the freedom to run with pretty much whatever they want. But whether that's actually a good thing, will have to wait and see. Hopefully it will be better than Reynolds last collaboration with Netflix. The Michael Bay directed cinematic fiasco 6 underground. Honestly, I can't imagine it being any worse. However I am an action fan, and I did find some mild entertainment out of that movie.
Your Weekly Tech Update with Ray McNeal (audio podcast)
Bluth and Roy team up for Dragon's Lair adaptation on Netflix
"Bluth Goldman and John Palmer Roy, another animator who left Disney to work with bluth are producing this. Netflix confirmed the report on Twitter. Dragon's lair isn't a very big on plot. Princess Daphne has been kidnapped by the dragon singe and is being held in the fortress of the evil wizard mardock, and Dirk the daring, a bold, vaguely dumb witted night, crashes the castle to rescue her. The game itself doesn't provide any greater depth because it's basically a series of rapid fire QuickTime events. That means the writers have the freedom to run with pretty much whatever they want. But whether that's actually a good thing, will have to wait and see. Hopefully it will be better than Reynolds last collaboration with Netflix. The Michael Bay directed cinematic fiasco 6 underground. Honestly, I can't imagine it being any worse. However I am an action fan, and I did find some mild entertainment out of that movie. Tesla is preparing to release an update to its autopilot system that will enable it to finally automatically stop at traffic lights at a video of the system at work has already been released. The automaker is supposed to induce more advanced driver assist features meant to help city driving the same way autopilot has been helping Tesla drivers for highway driving. It's part of what CEO Elon Musk calls the feature complete version of its full self-driving capability, which Tesla was supposed to push at least to its early access owners by the end of last year. Instead, Tesla pushed what Musk called a full self-driving preview
How Did This Get Made?
"michael bay" Discussed on How Did This Get Made?
"Okay do you think. Do you think that scarlett johansson character jordan never met prime just clone. Do you think that she ever struggled with the you know guilt or weight of not giving her life so killed somebody her. Yes she kills somebody and do you think she's going to go. Reset child was such a like. That was really sad when the little boy says mommy is that you i was like ooh. That's heartbreaking like. That's like that's when you start the consequences of of james caan our scarlett johansson that we're following to just survive and to be free and to have free will and all of that but also recognizing that what that means is the does oregon's you know what did they give scarlett forty eight hours or something like that. So if the organs weren't implanted in forty eight hours and they speak to its culture. Instances that woman's gonna die. You know or something. Like i think you know that whatever and it but that's you know it's there. The movie is interesting kind of moral story. It's just michael. Bay is like yeah but also trucks flipping over and fans chopping everything. Let's add a little bit of dino. That michael bay calls his action bay. Hem bayan bethlehem like mayhem but michael bay style. Non china michael bay. They were saying. Like i can't remember the movie that was going on at the same time. This is also from the directors come interior Track review like that michael bay. He's i i was looking at. I was looking at this other movie. They're doing six or seven shots a day. I'm doing thirty or forty like she's like shooting. Forty shots a day and said that sometimes the camera moves are so quick that he gives his crew less than five minutes to set up a shot which is like that. It seems like it's even shot in a way it's shot in a running gun indie way but you know with the most expensive and i think he also has like nine cameras on everything so he's getting small pieces but it's like he's getting so much of it and it's just like an assembly of like chopped up bits of movie. I did a commercial with an actor who is in bad boys two and it was a chase over a bridge. It's a big seen bad boys two And he is part of the the fbi team and So he gets there onset and he's in this truck and There's a camera in front of him in the truck and he has a gun that he's got shoot out the window and he's like oh how are we gonna do it. And michael said you're going to drive the truck. Shoot that gun out the window and you're gonna slate yourself. What was like. Well wait. I don't know how to do any of that stuff he's like. Don't worry i have stunt drivers void you so like don't worry about it and this guy was the most stressful situation. He's ever been in in his life. Because you have to like shoot a gun. That has recoil. You are trying to drive a truck as things are burning and flipping by you. And and he said they needed the first take. Michael bay came down and went right up to his truck because all the trucks had every truck had a you know everybody in this chase had their own private camera. And because what the fuck are you doing man. You look scared a shit out. He's fire you right now. he's like. Don't be scared you do this. All the time and scare this look scared. Looks pretty good. that's amazing. I love that magic doing that like an apparently he's created a special new this but i guess the movie that he created it on a special car cam that like you could drive into other cars without killing. The stunt driver is a. It's a special camera that you can basically drive into other things. It doesn't hurt the driver or the camera. Yeah so he's pretty. It's pretty insane. Oh my god we know what. We obviously have an opinion about this movie. And i would say that opinions fairly mixed but there are other people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second. Opinions was a piece shit. This person recommend. Tell me we'll see maybe is j. up in jason.
The Screenster Podcast
"michael bay" Discussed on The Screenster Podcast
"And then it kind of went full tilt boogie overboard where everything was a visual effects. You gotta have a a hat blowing down the road and he probably could have done it on a fly line and a wind machine and then in the meetings it was that has to be a visual effects. And so then it got to look a little bit heavy handed in that realm. And you could start to see a little cartoon elements to it. And i think that they re address that they perfected it as they do and they realized that there is a great compliment between the real and and at a optical house and and i think one of the big proponents of that was michael bay. He was very very big on incorporating both worlds marrying together in a very very smart way and it kept being worked out between you do this and you do this and you need a little piece of this for our camera shot and so there's kind of a really good marriage right now because i i kind of feel is visual effects of computers. Going to start to take everything but it's nice to know that that wouldn't necessarily happen Yeah well well more. I mean more and more you have smoke. Oh which is you. Know the production. They all tracking devices on the actor and now they have beautiful backgrounds. That are all video and you can just change them pressing buttons the visual effects. I in his sitting right there on the set. Changing those backgrounds for the shots is a much more oria graft involved process with the actor the set designs all on these screens that you can just make a new world much like i can make a new background for this zoom meeting. If i'd like and they they have it worked to very good science now a lot of times.
Drawn To It
"michael bay" Discussed on Drawn To It
"Best school on your fucking at the time was the harvard of arts schools. Art center pasadena was like matt maher Sit need you know fucking with some of the greats in just a michael bay went there. I mean there's a light It's got nothing he's another straighter but it it. It attracted the kind of creatives that i wanted to be in the club wits. Yes so i said yeah. I applied and i remember ed unhappy life drawings of of life nudes..
Tom Hanks goes to war (again) in the World War II drama
"19. So many of these big blockbuster movies are now going to be available on your TV as opposed to the movie theater, and this one was for the movie. Industry for the movie studios. This one must have been right on the line. Richard Roper, the new Tom Hanks movie Greyhound Big budget, lots of special effects. It's a World War two. Venture film right and they chose. They chose to go with Apple TV plus to release it. Exactly right. In fact, you know the beginning of this year way back in the day when we were going to movies in theatres I talked about this is one of the most highly anticipated films of the year because, as you mentioned it's a Tom Hanks film. And who has Dunmore in terms of entertainment movies and miniseries for World War two that Tom Hanks of her Saving Private Ryan and then band of brothers in the Pacific and Greyhound. He wrote this and actually stars in this row. And although it's not based on a true story, it's actually based on a novel. It's inspired by the very real events of the Battle of the Battle of Atlanta. Sick, which you know was waged on the Atlantic Ocean was longest running battle in all of World War two. And it was all about convoys of allied ships trying to get supplies across the pond, while German u boats were attacking from all ends. That's what this movie is all about. Now. The invention. Tom Hanks connection to war, too. And the press junket for the release of this film, So the people obviously they go out. They publicized All They want to talk to you about its Corona virus, right? Yeah, it's just tell your side of the times. Well and, of course, because Tom Hanks and his wife, Rita Wilson, were among the very, very first public figures to test positive. I believe you could correctly. I believe they're in Australia make making a movie. So, you know, I understand that and Tom Hanks has got such a no, he has. He has earned a role as more than just an actor, writer director producer. He's someone who's been around for a long time, but involved in a lot of things very intelligent and Educated guy when it comes to current events, so people do want to hear from him Now. The unfortunate part about all of this row is that Greyhound is not a great movie. In fact, I'm giving it to and 1/2 stars for the biggest disappointment. And I'll tell you why you remember. A few months ago we talked to Harrison Ford, who had done a movie called Call of the Wild or the Procedure. I he talked about how in a lot of these battle movies, war movies. They overdo it with the CG, and he actually said member, he actually said there are too many bleeping planes in the sky in a lot of these movies, and that's exactly unfortunately, what happens here. They did film some of this aboard a ship, I believe was the Canadian ship. But mostly it's CG Iroh, and it's very obvious that it is because you know the swooping cameras. It's almost like a Michael Bay movie. And so many planes in the sky and so many ships, etc. And so great special effects and then a lot of technical jargon. The problem is, we don't get to know any of the other characters other than the Tom Hanks character, and we got Haven't we don't know what we talked about the great War movies and you and I have talked about a lot of them. We did a podcast around Memorial Day about some of the great American War films. We get to know the characters first, we're emotionally invested in them, and then if something happens to one of them, or there's heroics or tragedy, it has an impact in this movie. All the characters are so superficially drawn that at one point, but Tom Hankscharacter asked a guy on the ship. He gets his name wrong and goes. I'm sorry, I'm still learning who everybody else's. And I'm like we are, too and that's never a good thing in a movie like this. Wow. Oh, that's That is so disappointing. When does it I'm still gonna watch. When does it premiere tonight? Or tomorrow? Tomorrow? And I will say this, too. I do think it might look better on the big screen. You know, maybe those special effects on a giant screen they either could've been magnified or they would have played better. He watching it in a home viewing environment. It just took me out of the film like I'm saying, Well, they clearly did this with computer generated stuff, and I think they just fell in love with the
Michael Bay's Pandemic Thriller Cleared for Production After SAG Shut Down
"Hollywood's production of a pandemic thriller gets a green light sag after okayed union actors working on the Michael Bay production of songbird the union initially set out to do not work order for the film Thursday. At that time, the union said the film's producers had not signed all necessary agreements and had not been upfront about safety measures. Songbird starts production in L. A this month. The plot is of a budding love story between a motorbike courier who has rare immunity and a young
Union tells actors not to work on pandemic film 'Songbird'
"The actors union issues. They do not work order on one of the first films in production after the Corona virus closures, the Screen Actors Guild American Federation of Television and Radio actors or telling members not to work on the pandemic thriller Songbird, saying filmmakers have not been transparent about safety protocols and not sign the proper agreements with the union actors had reportedly been rehearsing remotely for the film, which is being produced by Michael Bay, directed by Adam Mason and starring Demi Moore. The filmmakers did not immediately respond to requests for me.
WBZ Afternoon News
13-year-old graduates college with 4 associate's degrees
"The southern California boy something none of his other friends house for college degrees your four cultures corresponded Danya Bacchus introduces us to Jack Rico a thirteen year old boy orders for the Celsius degree this weekend by the way says is just getting started the young graduates received diplomas from Fullerton college in his front yard thank you all so much for coming in family can gradually to time with the drive by paraded his home in la mirada California is just full of knowledge now it's on to the university of Nevada Las Vegas to possibly study for a career in screen writing someone to go out for dinner Steven Spielberg all right you want to pick up Michael bay on the way you know like I would be pretty cool and as you can imagine Jack's parents are very proud of his heart is bigger than its
AM Tampa Bay
'Fat Guys at the Movies' Kevin Carr on reopening of theatres amid pandemic
"We are joined by our guys at the movies guy Kevin Kerr and Kevin I know theaters are opening here in Pinellas county they're gonna open up again right now the much to the chagrin of some but the movies themselves aren't being made anymore now than it's going to be a while probably for Hollywood cranks it up again and well yeah I think people are waiting and seeing what's going to happen because the movie that's that's next on the slate the next one that that had a release date that did not get moved his talent which is David of seasoning which is Christopher Nolan's latest film he of course did inception and the dark knight movies in interstellar and Dunkirk and this is going to be a big movie part of it is it's a seventy millimeter film the once showed him thirty five millimeter and seventy millimeter to my Max but it's also two hundred million dollars so you need to have as many theaters open and you got to have them being able to play and you also have to have a sort of that consumer confidence of people going out to do it you can't deal with the suppressed audience now they just dropped attendance trailer yesterday last night and it is it does not have a release date all the trailer but according to the website it's still coming out on July seventeenth so we'll see before there's new content that that's coming out I think this is one of those you know what came first chicken or the egg the reader is going to open up a nationwide or are they gonna start releasing movies first and and that's something but I think it's a wait and see I think there's there's still some time left for this to be pondered could you see because the state of Georgia is opening up and we know that there's a lot of film incentives out there could you see Hollywood packing up and maybe going out east to Georgia to get some of this film work done for future movies well here's the problem with actually ramping up the production as well is it the there's there's the insurance issue that that every large production had carries of some sort of production insurance it says that they're going to be able to continue to produce and make this movie and that there's not something that's going to happen to it like a great example is in the fast and furious movie there this is one of the best movies there in the middle of making and Paul Walker died and then change the schedule and change the budget and changed everything they had insurance that covered that it's gonna be very hard to start up production on anything with any sort of coronavirus insurance so like the big productions are still out you know I E. independent doesn't matter where they where they go even Tyler Perry's talk about opening up but you're going to have to have distancing there as well either talking about producing smaller movies like a Blumhouse is going to be doing something Michael bay has one that he wants to start producing very soon but those are going to be smaller low budget the productions are not gonna be the two hundred million dollar blockbusters well they're going to be interesting to see how it all plays out and I guess going to be big for Netflix and Hulu and all of those like that
Daily Tech News Show
Netflix Posted a Huge Earnings Beat
"Onto some net flicks earnings net flicks beat expectations overall in Q.. Four but fell short and the US due to increased competition titian worldwide. Netflix added eight point. Seven six million subscribers for total of one hundred sixty seven point one million subscribers. It's fastest growing. Region was Asia Pacific where it added one point seven five million users. Netflix added five hundred twenty thousand subscribers in the US that was short though of expected. Six hundred thousand financially. It reported stronger than expected revenue at five point. Four seven billion dollars and earnings per share of one dollar and thirty cents analysts had expected earnings of fifty three cents per share so they did do good on revenue. Nuts looks expects to add seven million subscribers worldwide below the eight point two million projection from analysts. So it's a little bit of a mixed bag here when you look at these these numbers the company and this is very interesting also has started citing viewers statistics based on a shorter amount. Round of you in time. So if I watched a show and I was counted as watching a show previously that would be completing seventy percent or more of an episode of a TV show or movie. Now netflix is reporting seventy. Six million households chose to watch the WITCHER and eighty three million chose to watch Michael. Bay's six underground but choosing to watch is now defined as starting a film or episode and watching at least two minutes so this is this last is most interesting interesting to me like netflix grew a little slower than possible. Everybody's making hey of like. Oh it's Disney plus an apple. TV plus okay. Maybe maybe it is. It probably is but the the fact that they are moving from. We never report subscriber. Numbers are never report viewership numbers to we're going to report some big viewership numbers that are seventy percent watch too two. We want to report big numbers but they only need two minutes. Watch to make those big numbers that tells me that they're feeling a little pressure to put out some. Even this is like this is like auto play at numbers. You know where you're like. Oh somebody plays two minutes. Two minutes is better than the auto play where he gets. Shut off really fast. It wouldn't be fair if if I after. Two minutes of a feature length film. I did not like that film. Yeah no that is not a watch that is me saying it's not an accidental start. But it's not an I liked it. If you've only seen two minutes of Michael Basics underground they should read Michael Base Lodge it. Yeah if you WANNA early watch two minutes of six underground watching these two minutes. I mean I it's it's interesting. I also think they have to kind of change these numbers not just because I think those are good the reasons you guys state but I think that there may be another thing a play here which is there is now so much new content happening on Netflix. Every day or every week new content being added that. You're starting to have a you kind of crowded content problem and a lot of that content I refer to not leaving. It's there permanently and so a shorter view of a thing. Might actually be a valuables statistic because a lot of us are doing shorter checks on a thing whether I wanna see it or not where it used to be. Well I've got this choice between movies already know in love and this new thing they made. Now it's got twenty new things. They made plus eight movies routed. I don't even know if I'm GonNa like this. I'm going to give it a couple of minutes. It helped me. I'll stay or open. I'm out of here like I can kind of see why that that that that would be a strategy that that goes along with just content overage in there if you know what I'm saying I'm calling it now Netflix. This is long term thinking and what they want is a few years down the road when Disney plus is still reeling from people like wait. You had all the marvel movies but now you lost him because of these deals that we're done before Disney plus. Why can I count on the fact that Harry Potter was on Peacock? Now it left in its an HBO. Max Netflix will start pointing to their library and say we own ours. All of our stuff you still there stranger things still there. You could still rewatch it. It'll flip it'll it'll try to flip it but yeah. The international story is one to watch Netflix. The fact that they're international numbers. Latin America Asia asia-pacific are skyrocketing. They're doing great international content. That is the future of Netflix. And the slowing down in the US. Maybe it's because of Disney plus or maybe it's just you know the US us is behind for a while for Netflix. So I don't know that it necessarily is. Yeah I mean number one market for some time. The numbers have been had. You know it's this is this. This is a this is a familiar familiar quarterly earnings report for no looks like Hey. International numbers are skyrocketing in particular markets Specifically but not so much in the US. It's like well you know you reach. Saturation what I wonder is especially with original content and how that's working so Well for streaming services. If you've got a head you know that that that that makes more sense at least to a subscriber like me than back catalogue because how many times I'm really really GonNa Watch even my favorite movie type thing. I WANNA see new stuff. How is that going to change the kind of original content that people see knowing what the strong markets
Lori and Julia
Brad Pitt Is an Astronaut Trying to Save the World in 'Ad Astra' Trailer
"Brad Pitt is the latest heartthrob to take on lorries favorite subject in movies space is here being sarcastic Donnie, just a little bit. All right. We posted this trail of the movie is called ad AD ad Astra and read pit plays astronaut ROY McBride travels to the outer edges of the solar system to find his dad played by Tommy Lee Jones, other travel mystery that threatens the survival of our planet. It looked like Armageddon meets Michael bay movie was this movie. There is gossip going around Hollywood, that it is bad bad, because it was supposed to come out in February of this year. No trailers, no nothing really. Hold it from the schedule. They tried to save because Disney brought FOX. Yes, of course, they did Hollywood speak. Oh, gosh. We gotta dump this trash. I real dilemma with that because he doesn't want anything sinking of once upon a time in Hollywood. Right. Let's take a look at this trailer.
The Big Picture
Breaking Down 'Shazam!'
"Finds itself at an interesting inflection point. I would say I thought she was a very fun and entertaining movie, but it did not really feel like anything that had come in the DC universe before. And you kind of explain to me. What should I am is? And what it's trying to do. Sure. I mean, I kind of had the. To do the same thing after watching the movie because like right around the time the post credits scene with a evil Caterpillar happened. I was kinda like I've no idea what any of this stuff is. So thankfully, Mike does have a a piece on the ring dot com. A great website kind of breaking down the kind of Kazan origins. But yeah, he's he was actually originally called captain marvel and like in the movie there was like a wizard named 'schisms who gave him like all these superpowers. But when he sorta got folded into DC comics because marvel had its own captain marvel he then became Zam. But the whole spiel is basically the same thing like the wizards powers you activate it by saying Zam, and then I guess in the big conversion you just become buff, Zachary Levi. Yeah, I didn't even know buff Zachary Levi was going to be a thing that I would ever have to talk about. I can't say when I was watching Chuck ten years ago. That this ever crossed my mind that he would be a superhero, I think Tony Lee. This movie is pretty significantly different from superman vs Batman and the Justice league films and even wonder woman, which I thought was you know, is a very charming and obviously hugely successful movie. But there is a lightness in the tone, and it's not quite as operatic goofy. As was l-. You know, what did you make of the kind of movie that Sam was trying to be yet? No, I thought it was fun at kind of had like almost throwback Amblin entertainment coming of age vibe like something you'd see from like Amblin in like the eighties. But with the caveat that instead of a kid going on venture or something he can just become a superhero. But I thought it was a it was it was kind of an appropriate tone for for the kind of here that this guy is and I kind of like that, you know, a kid like a teenager becoming Kazan like he has like a bit of an aimlessness to him at the beginning. Like, there's not the sort of great power with great with great power comes great responsibility type speech. You just sorta has to learn things on the fly Yemen. One of the first things that the character does after he realizes his powers as he just goes to a convenience store in buys beer and candy. And you know, I it, you know, the movies clearly pitched as sort of what if big, but superhero, and it's very effective in showing us like maybe not with the real world ramifications would be because it's a little bit different in tone in the real world. But some of the like aspirations that you have as an adolescent, and the things that you wish you could do when you were thirteen sham does for the first hour of this movie, and the movie ultimately just becomes a story about like friendship and the way that we act bigger and older than we are. And what we can get away with in that time. And then it does turned into a little bit of a superhero movie. What did you make of the kind of balancing of those tones? Yeah. I mean, I think I did prefer sort of the the first half of the move. In that respect, as you know, there are so many superhero movies out there. And I think for the most part it's sorta gets derivative to when the movie gets the guy discovers his powers, you know, like Peter Parker, like scaling skyscrapers type of thing. But it was fun for Suzanne because it felt very like very genuine response. What if a fourteen year old kids suddenly had powers like, yeah? He would try to buy beer. He would go to script strip club in like beam about the chicken wings because this is a PG thirteen movie. You know, if he's in a world where superman Batman exists, and he doesn't really know. What to do is? You just if he can't find people to save is he just going to he's going to try to make cash and become a YouTube star. It was an interesting approach. But I think like I preferred that half of the movie versus like, the Mark strong shows up with seven CGI deadly sin, archetypes, or whatever. And it's time to punch him a lot. Yeah. I agree. I don't think part was active. It's funny because it feels like a movie like this, which is not exactly a reinvention. But is a is a reconsidering of what these kinds of movies can be still does arrive and its conclusion at the notion that needs to feature a lot of punching and a lot of fighting the bad guy. I'm curious to see if as we grow inside, the D C E U, I guess much like Zam. If they'll ever change the the the approach that they take having kind of the final showdown in the final forty five minutes of the movie that was also one of my struggles. Honestly with wonder woman, which I thought as I said was really clever and well made and then ultimately just turned into Diana fighting a demon monster who was played by David through Lous. What do you make of the decisions that DC is now making to singular is each of their movies? I mean, it's interesting because like, you know, they they did a pretty quick pivot from like fast-tracking their Justice league movie which end up being like relative to the expectations a bit of a bomb for them. Also, it didn't really track critically. But you know, they're kind of like making these films that have this very little interconnectivity like aquaman was only really playing the seeds for Auckland to and I guess a trench spinoff, which I could go on like a twenty minutes handed about the trench about the trend. Can't wait for the trench. And like kind of the same thing with wonder woman sequel in feels that way, which is. To you know, if it does well enough at the box office like affiliates just leading into sham two or maybe like a black atom movie, which is like a sham villain. That's supposed to be played by Dwayne Johnson. If you look at like the C projects that are in the air like a rebooted suicide squad, James Gunn, new bad movie. Perhaps a flash movie there's all these other projects like the one glaring omission is there are no plans to make like a Justice league to and not to say that would never happen again. But clearly like the D C you right now is content. Just kind of throwing stuff out there and seeing what resonates with audiences yet. If you look down there slate, we talked about this a little bit during the release of aquaman, but I was just in add an in Vegas at cinema Khan. And they were very proud of the approach that they were taking telling their stories because the next the next handful of movies. They have is of course, Zam, and you know, they also have joker which is coming in October. Which also feels quite standalone seems to have virtually nothing in common with the movie Lakesha Zam. And then there's also a birds of prey which is. Theon story of sort of five superhero team that will also include Margot Robbie Harley Quinn, and that totally and visually looks completely different from those other two movies. And so they've taken this decision to not just make that flash movie and not just make whatever inevitable green lantern movie. And with the same kind of stormy visualises that that Zack Snyder created, but to just kind of individually each story, which is what a lot of comic books are actually a lot of comic books have separate illustrators. They have separate writers their tones are quite different amazing spider. Man could be quite different from x men and superman could be quite different from, you know, detective comics, and what's going on with that, man. And of course, I guess next year late next year. We'll have the Batman which Matt Reeves Batman movie. Do you know, your your very closely track the comp films for us is it more interesting to you of all of this the fits together or do you like it better? If it stands alone and the movies get to be what they are. Well, I. Kind of like maybe I just have a bit of a marble fatigue. Just because it feels like we've been preparing for endgame like just just forever. But yeah, I kind of like this approach because you know, like, if something doesn't, you know resonate with with audiences like I personally wasn't as big of a fan as as wonder woman as other people were which is fine. You know, I I like parts of it. But, but you know, for the most part people really enjoyed it. And I think you know, it's an interesting approach. I think what will probably be most interesting is with wonder woman command and Zam they've all been pretty well received. And they've made a good amount of money. I'm curious what happens like how the DC EU responds when something flops with critics audiences in the box office. Do they like shake it off? Or if it's like, if it's bracing a certain tone, like, you know, let's say joker is actually quite terrible. And and you know, it's like a Scorsese prestige that. Just kind of doesn't work like will the DC you kinda void being that experimental. Again. I I'm curious to see what happens when there's kind of like a speed bump on the road for them. I am too is an interesting question because it does seem like in with Shas AM and most likely joker and handful of these other movies. They don't come with that two hundred and fifty million dollar production price tag. You know, they're definitely smaller movies with more modest ambitions, at least in terms of the execution of the movie. And so the risk is lower. So if let's say joker is not the sort of world-beating, cultural colossus that many would have us believe this week. That's okay. I think that they could probably survive that. And it's an you're right. It is a really interesting pivot away from all of that interconnectiveness. Is there anything else about his that you you really liked and you responded to? Yeah. I really like that, you know, I thought Zachary Levi was was just so good at like kind of capturing basically like, you know, a kid in a swollen dealt spot ended it so well like there were times where you almost felt to childlike for guy who's still like fourteen years old, but you could tell he was just having such a blast. And and yeah, I would have never expected Chuck would be like a swollen superhero. But I never expected Jim from the office to like, you know, make some hard movie also become buffer like Michael bay film. So I I guess, you know sick. I'm stars. They can transform. Yeah. Could you cast a sitcom debauche sitcom figure into into a superhero movie right now is there? Anybody springs to your mind? Is Jim Parsons our next. Green lantern. You think? Oh god. No, no. I'm trying to think of like if someone from parks and rec ado that transformation that isn't Chris Pratt. Because I mean, he's he's just forget about this point. He's he's like a discount printing. Frazier. But he he has done that as well. I mean, I guess maybe if if Adam Scott were cast as as galactic that would probably that. That's as close as we're gonna get
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Netflix cracks a window
"KCRW sponsors include net. Flicks presenting the love me when I'm dead chronicling the last years of Orson Welles life the genius behind citizen. Kane. It's wildly entertaining while full of nuance and depth directed by Morgan Neville, only on net. Flicks. November second I'm Kim masters, and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as Bellamy of the Hollywood reporter, and Matt Finally I mean, we sort of expected this for a while but net flicks finally finally is cracking after trying to get into the awards race in a real way for a while. Now, they really want this, and they have in a very I think serious contender in quirones Roma, which is a black and white film very much in art house film. I would save as having seen it very much a film, ironically that you would wanna see on a big screen. You cannot make a movie with Cuaron if you don't bend or an artist like Koran if you don't somewhat bend to his will. So netflix. Has said they will let this movie run exclusively in theaters some theaters for awhile, it's a concession and their couple of other films in this category. But let's focus on the big one for now couple of other films in this category. They're going to allow this with it's a concession. I'm not sure that it's a really fabulous concession. Well. It is a big deal that Netflix, which has steadfastly stuck to this party line that we are releasing movies on Netflix worldwide the same day that we're putting them in a few theaters. That's the key here. They're moving three movies from the exclusive day and date on Netflix to invaders for about two or three weeks in advance and a few theaters. And the message here is that Netflix wants to play ball with elite talent and get into that Oscar race, which they have been unable to do. And is this going to make a difference? I don't know. But it is a big concession from. Netflix to go away from what they? I have said is their model all on net flicks to giving this the window which will allow those audiences to see it in theaters. I'll tell you what I think I think that net. Flicks made such a fetish of this. And I understand they were launching something, but movies are movies, in some cases. It really does matter as I said Romans one of them, I think that they made such a stink about this that certain theaters don't want anything to do with running their movies. They still don't want that relationship. And I also think this is a small number of theaters fifty around the world, I think is the number, and I'm just guessing you've got an otter like Koran and he's not the only one that is going to seem like not enough. Now, you could say, you know, this will be was made without Netflix money and net flicks, then acquired it in in a way made it possible for the world to see it. And you could say many people do it's better to be seen on screens. You know, more people will see it this way. However, I suspect that not only will the theater is still largely shunned it, but an artist like. Warren will say, you know, this really is not enough. And next time. I'm not doing it. Well, not if he wins best picture, which is gonna pour millions of dollars into campaign to win him best picture, and they believe that by putting it in theaters in New York and Los Angeles and couple of other big cities. They will have a better shot at winning best picture for this guy. And you know, it's it's the push pull it's a huge global audience that Netflix can provide. But they don't give you that theatrical push that many filmmakers want, and to me, the most interesting thing here is Netflix is drawing a line. They're saying these three movies are worthy of the releases. But if I'm a filmmaker that has a movie at Netflix, I say to my agent, where's my theatrical release where why am I not getting what L fonds Roan or the Coen brothers or the Sandra Bullock movie? They're putting in theaters why why am I not getting that? So you're going to see I think people like Guillermo del Toro who has a movie project. Net flicks. Michael bay whose movies are gigantic transam erred. But but Michael bay is used to getting his transformers movies in four thousand riders on opening weekend in the US, and he's gonna make net looks movies. You know, you don't think Michael Bay's going to ask for the window, and yeah, I do actually. And I think that if it does win. Yes. Maybe he will be satisfied, but it may not win because net flicks. Thank you, Matt. Thank you. That's not felony aditorial director of the Hollywood reporter. He joins me this Monday at two o'clock on the business. I'm Kim masters, and this is the Hollywood breakdown this podcast was made by public radio station. KCRW our status as a nonprofit enables us to make bold and unusual programs. But we need your support to keep it that way donate or become a member at KCRW dot com slash join. And thanks.
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Netflix Marvel Cinematic Universe
"It very ready. Do you like comic books? Yes, I like comic books. Do you like, wait, I is this weird, but few like net flicks and comic book series and chill. Is that weird? Chill BART's. Okay. You like net flicks comic book series and eating popcorn? Yes. Then you're in the right place. I'm rejected. I'm choice singer and talk in the new talk nerdy media. So tarts. Start? Are we starting now. Oh, that was your neighbor. Oh, that's cool. Now. Let them. Not with me. Tell me what game that you get is a crowd. All right. Topic of discussion net licks marvel cinematic universe. What are you thinking? I know we got to series as as of this recording to series are upcoming ones already out is iron fist season to season dose. For our Spanish speaking friends. I know. Right. That's that's about the extent of most. Yeah. Okay. I think my daughter knows more Spanish than I do. I knew some of the callers under surveys ever, though seventy seven. That's. Out. That's it. All right. The iron fist season to iron fist season two. I'm excited for it. I'll be honest. I haven't had a chance to sit down and watching me, but that is going to be a binge of this weekend for me. Yeah. Those are removed. Like when you were saying Netflix and chill. When those come on, I totally focused on the TV, right and else exist because I'm looking all over the screen for Easter a stuff and go see as I see him I, the house with my wife is she is not a comic book nerd, right? So I see it and I want to say something to somebody and I look over her and she's just whatever I have no one to geek out with. We let me. So yeah, artists, like you said, it's out now. Yeah, he's in two. I I thought the first season was okay. I wasn't as good as a lot of the other series, but I liked it. It was. It was okay. I know got a lot of bad reviews. I let a harsh, they're complaining about the fight choreography, right. Obviously there never been in a real fight. Yeah, they don't have daredevil fights thorughout rule. Yeah, stylized fighting people are going down a hallway and beaten thirty forty people to Spicer over to. I twenty thirty six. Yeah, that I mean the. I mean you've got just the way that they I I like I like the choreograph. I thought it was really cool. They modify teams were kinda quick, but I mean, that's how it usually fights go on and you ever been to fight streetfight down. Just a jump is usually the winter and then half the time you have when you break it up, the guy it's getting their butt kicked the friends holdings. Like let me go. Let me add my God. But anyway. I can't wait to sit down and watch it. I really like it. He had a annoyed vis had had a small little Danny rand. Small little walk on with the last series with Luke h. for a couple of episodes. So it kind of got me a little more exciting when that happened. Defenders also, oh yeah, he was still tied into defenders. Supposedly an iron fist season two. They've kind of pulled the stick out of his butt and he's not as up tight Nagano tenor body, the immortal iron fist shut up, man. You're Danny, ran the. I don't know who this moral iron-fist guy is. Just like, I think with like a lot of the series, I still have to say, daredevil is my favorite. And lost it all it did like iron ended for the cinema? Yeah, I think so too. I think with Luke cage was was pretty good and just good Jones. I, I'll be honest, I hope I don't get any backlash, but Luke cage. She's in two. I did not like it. I like I like the slow character development stuff instead of just Michael bay action for the sake of action. But season two, I did not like as much as season one Luke cage this. I didn't hate it. I on season one. I liked it a lot. I just hated the way ended, and it was like that it was. It was I'm gonna beat this guy up and all go to jail now come on really. And then like I have for me was season two. I enjoy comic. I enjoyed character development, but there was too much talking for me in season two cage,