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"meyer erskine" Discussed on Fresh Air
"Hulu streaming service premiered a very unusual, very daring and very funny comedy series. It was called Penn fifteen was set at a middle school in the year two thousand and started the show's creators, Meyer Erskine and Anna Cockle? They placed seventh graders who are navigating everything from romantic crushes and puberty to peer pressure and the. General. Awkwardness of adolescence. A second season of Penn Fifteen begins next Friday on Hulu. What makes the show so distinctive and often? So intentionally uncomfortable is that Erskine and conical are in their early thirties yet play young teen versions of themselves. Opposite Young Actors who are the age of their Middle School Characters It's a tricky allusion to pull off but Penn fifteen does it with a surprising amount of tenderness and intimacy. Many of the stories in the series come from Erskine and cockles real tribulations in middle school. A heads up to parents. This interview includes a couple of brief non-explicit mentions about how they dealt with those kinds of sexual situations when they were in their teens. Maya Skin Anna cockle spoke with fresh air producers Sam brigger last year when Penn fifteen I premiered. They started with a clip from the show. Anna and Meyer or having a sleepover after Anna has just had her first kiss with her first boyfriend Brendan. But it wasn't how she imagined it would be. Maya asks her about it. And then like rare lips close together when you guys are standing close together. Yeah They touched. Remain. Wasn't. It literally wasn't at all. He put his lips like all the way around mine. You know and like. Sucks. It's not funny way, and then why was that Ashley She just sucked? No, and then he put his tongue in my mouth any like. To like a torpedo tat Tung and link drilled, my mouth won't. Do that. Airport Yeah. I. Wish I could do with your tongue. Did you do it backer did with him back late? It was in trouble you know. Crazy. I know. Was Awful. But at least you've had your first kiss you. It was. Really do. Everything is just different. I don't know I just have to break up with them so really. He is not the brandon that brought us snacks at the bowling alley. He's like the Prenton that trump the packer may throw this. So. It's up to you to get the next boyfriend. From the Hula Show Penn Fifteen created and Co starring my guess my skin and Anaconda welcome to fresh air. Thanks thanks so much for having us..
"meyer erskine" Discussed on Fresh Air
"Today's first guest is author Donald Ray Pollock, , whose novel the devil all the time has just been made into a new netflix movie premiering next Wednesday. . It Stars Tom Holland and Robert Pattinson, , and here's a taste in this clip. . A young boy has just watched his father pulverized two guys after they made lewd comments about the father's wife, , the son's mother. . Afterward the father gives his son some advice. . You remember what I told you. . On. . The buzzer gave you. . That's what I mean. . got. . To. . Sir. . Good sons of bitches out there. . One hundred. . These that many. . Cannonball. . In, , both the movie and the novel the characters in the devil all the time are driven to extremes whether their fathers and sons, , serial killers or preachers. . The story begins in the small town of knock him stiff a real place in southern Ohio where Donald Ray pollock grew up. . He didn't become a writer until he put in over thirty years at the local paper mill and got sober. . But. . Once he did start writing. . He was noticed quickly receiving both awards and critical. . Acclaim. . Terry, , gross spoke to Donald Ray pollock in twenty eleven when the devil, , all the time was first published. . Donald, , Ray pollock welcome to fresh air. . I'd like to start with reading from your new book, , the Devil, all , the time <hes>. . It's about the second paragraph from the prologue. . So would you just set it up for us? ? What we have here is <hes>. . A young boy's name is Arvin Eugene Russell and he's <hes> following behind his father Willard and there and <hes> <hes> place called knock him stiff and they're going to Willard's prayer logging as a log in the woods where he <hes>. . Wants to communicate with God and <hes>. . So this is where they are. . You know early in the morning and their. . <hes> have finally reached this log. . Willard eased himself down on the high side of the law and motion for his son to kneel beside him in the dead soggy leaves unless he had whiskey running through his veins Willard came to the clearing every morning and evening talk to God. . Arvin didn't know which was worse the drinking or the praying. . As far back, , as he could remember, , it seemed that his father had faulted devil all the time. . Arvin little with the damp pulled his Co. tighter. . He wished he were still in bed even school with always miseries was better than this but it was a Saturday and there was no way to get around it. . Through the mostly bare trees beyond the cross Arvin could see whisper smoke rising from a few chimneys, , half a mile away four hundred or so people lived in, , knock him stiff in nineteen, , fifty seven nearly all of them connected by blood through one godforsaken clam or another be it lust were necessity or just plain ignorance along with the tar paper shacks and Cinder Block houses the Holler included two general stores and a Church of Christ in Christian Union and joint known throughout the township as the bullpen. . Three days before he'd come home with another black I I, , don't condone no fighting just for the hell of it but sometimes, , you're just too easy going Willard told him that evening then boys might be bigger than you. . But the next time one of them starts his stuff, , I want you to finish it. . Willard was standing on the porch changing out of his work clothes. . He handed Arvin Brown pants stiff with dried blood and Greece. . He worked in a slaughterhouse in Greenfield and that day sixteen hundred homes had been butchered a new record for RJ Carol meat-packing. . Those boy didn't know yet what he wanted to do when he grew up he was pretty sure he didn't WanNa kill pigs for eleven. . Let's Donald Ray pollock reading from his new novel, , the Devil, , all the time. . You know in the reading that you did the father tells the sun that the next time. . So many beats him up the sun has to fight back and that seems to be. . A recurring theme like in the opening story of your collection of short stories, , the collections called knock him stiff. . The opening sentence reads my father showed me how to hurt a man one August night at the torch in when I was seven years old it was the only thing he was ever any good at. . You certainly seem interested in the idea of a father. . Kind of indoctrinating a sun on the need to fight back and then egging on to do it even when it's inappropriate. . <hes> so was is this a story that played out in your life? ? Well, , not so much in my life I. . Mean as far as I don't my dad really didn't push me to fight or anything like that. . But you know when I was growing up my father and I had a very <hes>. . Uneasy relationship. . You've got to understand my dad was born in one, , thousand, , nine, , hundred, , thirty he's still alive. You . know he's eighty years old and he's still kicking but <hes>. . He was born in. . Nineteen thirty grew up in the depression I went to the eighth grade. . He <hes> was working on the railroad by the time he was sixteen, , and then he was in the navy. . And, , my dad is a very tough. . Hard. . <hes> man Stra very strong man. . As and in contrast to that, , my mother is very shy kind. . Small Bone woman. . and. . Either fortunately or unfortunately for me, , I took after my mother and I believe. . When I was a kid, , my dad was. . Maybe disappointed for not taking after him more. . So. . You know that's where I guess part of that comes from it and part of it also comes from. . Lived in stiff. . That's where I grew up and I saw a lot of <hes> other fathers who were you know drinkers and hell raisers and <hes> they didn't treat their families very well <hes>. . You know maybe they went and worked for a while and. . I got enough money to go on another band or whatever, and , pretty much left the family to <hes> take care of themselves. . So, , yeah father's <hes> have a pretty rough time and my work <hes> I just. . It's just. . <hes>. . You know I'm a father. . You know I have a daughter WHO's <hes> I'm thirty years old now and I have always felt that I. . Wasn't. . As good as I could have been. . Her mother and I were divorced when she was very young she was like a year old and and I wasn't around that much and. . <hes>. . That's probably the best explanation. . I can give for <hes> why <hes> treat father's like I do my work. . Were you bullied in school. . You said you, , you took after your mother who wouldn't hurt a fly. . So and if you were bullied, , would you fight back? ? Did you know how to actually I wasn't bullied in school I? ? Never really had any problems with that and yeah, , I. . Mean a would fight back if I had to but. . That situation you know didn't come about very much probably you know just. . No more than any other normal kid you know might face that sort of thing. . But. . Yeah. . I mean I wasn't really interested in <hes>. . Working on cars or farm or anything like that was more of A. . I won't call myself a bookworm because we really didn't have that many books but you know I like to read and watch old movies and drawl and stuff like that and <hes>. . My Dad. . Just you know he's a very practical man I mean, , even today you know his idea of success is. . Owning your own farm, , starting your own business or something like that and I know that he probably looks on <hes> what I'm doing now is. . A pretty useless way to spend your life trying to write books. . Would you describe what the town of knock him stiff was like when you were growing up well, , when I was growing up there it was. . You know relocated for us. . Ok we'll knock him stiff. . is about thirteen miles west of chillicothe Theo, , which is you know southern Ohio. . It was its own little place. You . know there wasn't much else around there but it was a community <hes>. . There were three small general stores and a bar and a church, , and probably four hundred, , fifty, , five, , hundred people now I probably was related to. . At least half those people. . So did you find this <hes> nurturing being in a town where half the people in it were related to you or incredibly claustrophobic? ? I think when I was a kid when I was a kid I was claustrophobic for me. . You know I was one of those kids I was always unsatisfied I always wanted to be. . Else and somewhere else. . And so from a very early age. . You know I was thinking about escaping from the hauler. . I just <hes>. . Thought that I'd rather be somewhere else are somewhere else. . But where you are as in Chile coffee which is. . PHILADELPHIA, , which is about thirteen miles away like you got out but you didn't go very far. . I, really , didn't get out I mean that's the weird contradiction of that whole thing you know i. . Wanted to escape and <hes> them what I finally got my chance or whatever I. . I chose to stay I'm out at knock stiff at least once a week even today <hes>. . Ladder parents go to visit. . My parents are still alive. . You know I have a brother and two sisters and they all live fairly close to there and <hes>. . So I. . Think though as far as escape goes what happened with me was I quit high school when I was seventeen. . And I went to work in a meat packing plant <hes> much like Weller work, , Dan? ? And then when I was eighteen I moved to Florida you know that was going to be I was going to get away that you know by moving to Florida and I was down are working a job in a nursery and I wasn't making much money or anything only been there a few months my dad called and said. . Hey, , I can get you a job at the paper mail if you come back up here so. . I chose to come back. . You know the <hes> paper Mills Calling <hes> it was union job and great benefits and. . And I knew you know for a high school dropout that was probably going to be the best job I. . Ever got. . You had that job for. . How many years did you work at the paper mill? ? I? ? was there thirty two years and you didn't start writing till you were around fifty or is that is fifth well I'm fifty six now and I started writing when I was forty five. . Okay. . So how come it took so long did you know? ? When you weren't writing did you know that you had that in you? ? Well. . You know I'd always been a big reader as I said and I love books. . And I think maybe in the back of my mind, , you know always thought writing would be a great way to get by in the world and you know, , of course, I , was very naive about it. . The principal reasons for me you know as far as being a writer were one, , you were your own boss. . To you could do it anywhere. . And three, , you made lots of money. . Wasn't until actually began writing it. . I found out. . That was a real true. . But I. . Think you know Sorta like maybe a fantasy that? ? It was in the back of my mind for a long time. . I had a problem with drinking and for a number of years and you know it was one of those fantasies that when you got half loaded and <hes>. . You started daydreaming or whatever it was. . One of those things that you thought about right thought about. . But it wasn't really. . You know I went to school when I was in my thirties I went to college I went to Ohio University and I ended up with a degree in English and <hes> You. . Know even while I was there though I wasn't thinking about being a writer I never took any writing workshops or anything like that. . But then finally when I was forty five <hes> my dad retired from the paper mill. . And there was just something about watching him retire and go home. . and. . You know that was you know pretty much the end of his career and it really. . Bothered me and I. . Just. decided. . . I had to try something else you know. . To some other way to. . Spend the rest of my life. . So. . When you decided, , you wanted to learn how to write what did that mean? ? Any. Writers . or anything in for <hes> a while I just sort of scribbled and struggled. . And then I'd read an interview with <hes> a writer and I can't recall her name now or no it was a lady. . But she talked about typing out other people's stories as a means of maybe getting closer to them or just learn how to put a story together. . and. So . I started doing that. . Who did you type out? ? I typed out a lot of different stories I. . I was typing out a story at least once a week and that went on for about a year and a half. . So John. . cheever hemingway. . Flannery. . O'Connor Richard. Yates . <hes>, , Dennis Johnson the you know the list just goes on and on if it was a story that I really liked and it wasn't. . <hes>. . Long I, , type it out, , and then I carry it around with me for a week and you look at over and you know jot notes on stuff like that, , and then I'd throw it away and do another one. . Typing a story out, , just was a much better way for me to see how you know person puts dial together or you know. . Moose from one scene to the next <hes> that sort of thing. . Was it hard for you to find your subject matter as a writer? ? Well when I first started. . Trying to learn how to write. . As. . I said like maybe I would <hes> copy out John cheever story. . So then I would try to write my own story about some East Coast suburbanite having unfair. . Something like that or maybe I'd write about a re Rita Andrei debut story, , and then I'd write about a Catholic priest. . and. . So I did that for maybe two years or so and it just wasn't working at all for me. . and. . Then filing maybe at about two and a half years, , I wrote a story that's included in the book. . Knock him stiff called back teen. . And it's a very short story. . and. . It's about these two losers sitting in a donut shop. . And that was the first thing that I had. . Written that I thought wasn't too bad. . And so then I increasingly started focusing on you know the people that I knew about <hes> instead of nurses, , lawyers, , that sort of thing that I had absolutely no idea. . How to write about There's a passage in your new novel that's about a bus driver and the bus drivers father had gotten a certificate from the railroad for not missing a single day of work in twenty years and bus drivers. . Mother always held this up as like what you could do. . If you really you know were strive and tried to accomplish something when the bus drivers father died the bus driver hope that that certificate would be buried with his father's. . We didn't have to look at it anymore, , but instead his mother just like. . Put It on the wall, , display it in the living room. . And then the bus driver thinks it wore on you after a while other people's accomplishments. . I love that sentence <hes> did you ever feel that way I mean he kochman here seems. . So relatively small like a good attendance record and not to knock that. . But for that to be like, , you know the zenith of <hes> somebody's life is. . You. . <hes> but did you feel that way that a war on you? ? Other People's accomplishments? ? I don't think that I paid so much attention to other people's. . Successes or whatever. . But I, know , that I was aware you know by the time. . I was thirty two or so and I've been working at the mail for about fourteen years. . And I knew that all the guys that I had come in with you got hired about the same time as mayor guys even much later than that. . You know they own their own home. . Maybe. . They owned a boat and they had two or three vehicles and they were married and had kids and on and on and on. . You know in contrast to them. . I've been divorced twice. . I'd filed bankruptcy when I got sober I was living in this little very small apartment above this garage. . Of. . Motel Room and I've been living there for about. . Four or five years. . I owned a black and white TV that my sister had given me and I had this seventy six chevy that had the whole side of smashed in and that was it. . You know for fourteen years of working there. . That's what I had. . And so you know there was that sense I guess of me just being a failure. . Wasn't really that I wasn't jealous of those people or anything like that. . I, , mean I had enough sense to know that you know where I ended up was my own fault. . But there was always that that idea in back of my head that. . I could have done more you know I could maybe went to college or something you know. . I'm sure you know if I'd wanted to go to school when I was eighteen, , my dad would try to help me. . and. . That's not the route that I chose though how has your life changed? ? Now as a published writer, , you have a collection of short stories. . You have a new novel you got a thirty five thousand dollars cash prize, , the pen, , Robert Bingham Award. . So, , what's different about your life? ? <hes> well, , I have a lot more time to just set on the porch and. . Smoke and daydream. . Think it's a legitimate. . Yeah well, , at least that's what I tell my wife. . <hes>. . But my life hasn't really changed that much I. . Mean I get a lot more emails. . Now you know that sort of thing, , but you know I still live in the same house I still pretty much. . You know my daily routine is. . I really can't say that it's changed that much. . It's a good life and I'm thrilled that you know I've got a publisher and. . You know had at least a little bit of success. . You know I know a lot of writers out there a lot of writers out there who are much better than I am. . And would. . Probably give their left arm. . To be setting, , you know where I'm setting today. . Well Donald Ray, , pollock thing you so much for talking with us. . Terry I appreciate. . It. . Made my day. . Donald Ray pollock speaking to Terry Gross in twenty eleven. . The devil all the time a new movie based on his novel of the same name.
"meyer erskine" Discussed on Fresh Air
"From whyy, in Philadelphia, this is fresh air. I'm David Being Cooley. In for Terry Gross, Today Donald Ray pollock author of the devil all the time which is set in knock him stiff Ohio the small town where he grew up pollock didn't become a writer until he put in over thirty years, the local paper mill and got sober. A film version of the devil all the time start streaming next week on Netflix. We'll also hear from Anna Konkan Meyer Erskine creators and stars of the Hulu Comedy Series Penn fifteen about the extreme emotions and awkwardness of being in middle school. They're in their thirties but in the show, they play middle school versions or from cells. New episodes of Penn fifteen starts streaming.
"meyer erskine" Discussed on The Big Picture
"Let's just keep going. Let's just roll at this is not the silliest say. Let's acknowledge this right now. You're going to serve so nervous. They know at some point. There is something that you don't agree with or something where you're just GonNa be like absolutely not and I'm so anxious right now. At what point am I gonNA lose wisely. At what point is he gonNA turn me. Yeah I just I'm just wondering like Oh no on the NBC channel. I feel like I'm a little contract leery about this only because I wanted to be his heir tightly officials humanitas Humanitas. Okay Ray I gotta be honest with you. I don't think the academy is GonNa Listen To this and say we should get these guys involved. No I'm doing this as a fourteen year old boy who I used to just like. Hey how there's a part of me that just wants to make sure that this category can actually like continue to make sense. overtired I okay. It's sort of a bit like what I don't understand why the music categories never keep their language like why that's evolving changing. But anyway it's it's it's best original song but then the quote like what determines that his changed over time. What they actually call it with? The score is anyway. Let's keep going bring racer performance. Meyer Erskine plus one John. Jonathan Majors last black man in San Francisco honor. Swinton burn the Souvenir Paul Walter houser Richard Jewel Julia Fox Fox uncut gems. Did I had the last one you did but I was also thinking about it. Great we this is a pro Julia Fox podcast through and through. I'm GonNa go Jonathan Majors. I gasson gun. That really is among these five people to me. That's your only winner did we miss anything. I had never seen Taylor From waves Halo Russell. Yeah I'd never seen her before. I think she might might be. We're GONNA recognize in her her later. Yes we're going to run a little later in this but she she would be also a good and and that's a complication to here is if you are recognized in this category. Can you be recognized later. This is the thing that I'd want clarified so we can decide we charge for the next hour. Whatever you want I would say that if you are recognized here you may be should not be recognized in later category? I've broken that rule if when we get. That's the reason not to do it like I don't really like this performance. But what if your convention a Wallace Alice Right and she clearly goes in this convention a Wallace amazing question. Just in general I mean what what she up to. Hopefully she's in school school. Like thirty eight. How old is she now? Eleven Yeah Eleven Tadpole in the movie. Yes that's my whole moral issue with that performance and like I have no whatever. Just spare me but say you're mentioning Wallace right and you you were given a performance that many people think is just extraordinary. But there's this Oscar category called breakthrough perform. Well like what are you. Can you like it. Either I don't know what you do. Unfortunately we're going to complicate that category. Yeah well we have another category addressing this issue concern is it like ten attended under. Is that group that you're concerned about. No I mean Ari. That's a fair think of Oh Captain Phillips Barkat. Abar Barcode Aldi. Oh yeah like he should get. He's in you should be able to like try to take an Oscar garners enough votes awesome best supporting actor then he gets to be best supporting actor. Hey so your son is ineligible likes so I you know. I honestly think it's better for someone like Barkat Ali who didn't stand a chance to win the best supporting actor Oscar but was going to be nominated to win and best breakthrough performance. I think that's better for him. Long-term so this is lacking is available category. Oh No have you seen Barkat Ali lately. No although Tom Hanks to shout I wonder faster. Anyway you can fill holds up Jonathan Hyphen majors. That's my that's my guy. I I agree with this. I think this is like the strictest interpretation of the you really are a strict originalist take a bit in terms of you watch that movie like who is that person is he only that. But I mean aside from Rob Morgan. I really don't like this movie. He is my feet is the he is the best thing in the movie and the thing that is best about him highlights what is wrong along with. He's so good that he calls into question the entire framework of this movie. Yeah I just I think he's I think he's he's great. We agree and we've talked about him a couple times in the show. It's definitely one of the best performance of the year. And it's one of the it's the kind of performance of the Oscars is usually very bad at recognizing every once in a while unless it gets released in May and something gets caught up in the in the wave of Oscar recognition. But a small film like this that. Has You know admiration but a little bit of mixed critical reception it. It does okay business but not really good business. Usually just kind of goes away. This would be a way to commemorate that. That's why I think this is a good category. Were agreed on Jonathan Majors. Yes next expense cameo now. This is a little bit of MTV movie awards category here. I liked the nominees though on their desk for you. There are six nominees year. I feel like I know which were. Yeah that was that was for me. The nominees are key. honorees are always be maybe Gwyneth paltrow from vendors endgame J. AK Simmons Spiderman far from home the weekend uncut gems boys to men Longshot and Sharon stone and rolling thunder revue. A Bob Dylan Story. Sorry this is a tough great category. I know my answer. Wait but now is it. Is Boys Amend the one that's premieres at Sharon stone. No I anything Oh really oh God bless yeah okay either. I went. Virtually nothing knows that she was in this movie so glad what is good. Yes I think so she. She's at least familiar with like avengers title until I see video evidence of her saying I was one of the stars of vendors endgame. We cannot confirm that I'm going to go I I'm going to go for pure like just good on you guys for putting this person in there Sharon Stone's winter so for anybody who hasn't seen Rolling Thunder of. You wanted you to go watch it. It's just a bizarre document to. It's essentially an imagined documentary chronicling Bob. Dylan's Torah Rolling Thunder tour in the nineteen seventies and Sharon. Stone segment is remarkable. Yeah there is a completely invented section in which Sharon stone indicates that as as a teenager I think a seventeen year old she and her mother essentially joined the tour and she and Bob began a kind of romance that originated with her being in love with the ban. Dan Kiss and then being converted to. Bob Dylan's shamanistic folkloric. songwriting which is the whole thing is a lie but but it is delivered so riveting. I Love the myth making of Bob Dylan and the idea that maybe the best myth made about him is coming from Sharon stone. It's just great shit. I do have to make one pl- pitch for south by South West this year when they premiered longshot Weisman showed up on screen and the people who are literally having orgasm they were just like this is very important to me. Boy Cement matters than at the end of the film. Boys just showed up and perform motown philly and It was it was better than probably any movie I saw last year. That's goose okay. These are both choices I love. I love you both very much but you guys are overcomplicating. This like the Sharon stone thing that seems very nice and that's a nice thing that we all have but it's the spirit of the cameo is not for shares canneries just like what are we talking about. It's otherwise that movie is like it's is completely unmemorable. Jonathan Majors shows up for so long long right so that is the problem. It's like eleven and a half minutes of the movie and it actually goes on anywhere to be or anything else to watch on Netflix. Like what do you want. I want not under whatever I can't I don't you got to go to a concert and I would have liked to be at that concert as well. It was a very good coach. I it's Kiat concert as my best picture. So you guys are going counter reefs. I know I'm sticking with Sharon stone but a man Darrin stone it is to one. God bless gradually with you. Thank you what he is there too long really. Don't let them movie. It's but but the point of a cameo it serves its purpose. It over serves its purpose. Exactly uh-huh movie is a bit of a slog best kid performance. Now this address. Some of your Anna Paquin concerns sleep but again this is one of those things were like. There's only one winner that's true. This is a good listener. Even this is an interesting collection of people. I strained to get number five but I'm going to read the list for you number one archie gates Joe Joe Rabbit. This is his favorite person in the universe. He's the one with the Glass House right. Okay most people I mean and why would pick Roman Griffin Davis who was the star of Joe Joe Riley Otherwise Manda Says No. It's the video yes he is. That's a supporting performance. A step that would ever go on number number two Julia butters once upon a time in Hollywood number. Three Noah Joop honey boy number four Jacob. Tremblay Good Boys K.. Number Five Nico Parker Dumbo. Now admit the Dumbo. Add a little bit of reach I just want to say that the kid from us. Oh I overlooked. I don't remember what his name is. He's wonderful and it just hit me right now as we're going through these is names He's not my window. Gioja rabid are a rabbit actors. Why are you talking about? I was GONNA give Archie. She like. It's very used to be nominated. I Want Archie to thrive. I think he's going to be the new home alone kid. He's doing great really I believe so in the TV series. That they are are doing wade is he gonNA. Is he going to use an American accent. I hope not hand start this young. I mean he is he will star in the home alone. repoed the report. IS HE GONNA be Australian or not in the Google search. He didn't call me and let me know what is going on here. First of all. That's insane that that you guys both. No no no no no but I want great things for him. He's a real honor to be nominated situation for me. It's Julia butters is the winner. I'm taking I'm taking getting it back. It's Julia Butter still you butters. I lost my mind okay very nervous. I'm sorry no I agree and I'm sorry to you star. Julia Julia Butter. The young man from us as named Evan. Alex and he is very good. He should be nominated and not Nicole Parker. So we'll look amend the record. Sorry okay but we I if we if we're not also know what you is good honey boy. This is Mary not his first Rodeo. He's been in a bunch of stuff including getting a quiet place and I I. He strikes me as one of those kids who is going to be like famous for fifty years is very very good actor always feel that I mean. There's like at some point. We'll have a charlie early cores. Mo- memorial child actor. Who didn't quite like you really going in the bag today as you? You're bringing early. Coronel was like he had a good. I mean runs a good run. You didn't have a good run. Agree Leagues Lesson. We saw him can't hardly wait. I think so sad. So congratulations -gratulations to Julia Butterfly. Who is just just icon? Tremendous she talked about. There's I mean Lupita for me. It's not like like acting snubs. Lupita Dongo Julia. I don't know how you watch that movie. Fill out your ballot. Put all the once upon a time in Hollywood stuff on it that you do and not put Julia butters name on your ballot. I just don't Lupita ago you know. I can't even get into why that didn't happen. But will you'll get a chance. I oh now but Julia butters when I moderated a panel conversation with the cast once upon a time Julia spent the whole time when she spoke..
"meyer erskine" Discussed on Fresh Air
"I'm Terry gross with fresh air today, the inescapable awkwardness and extreme emotions that come with puberty and being in middle school. That's the subject of the Hulu comedy series. Penn. Fifteen let's with the show's co creators and co stars Anna cockle and Maya Erskine there in the early thirties but play middle school versions of themselves. They say making the show force them to relive their experiences. Some scarring others baffling sexuality at that age is really bewildering and confusing, and it doesn't make sense. I was turned on by sand dunes. I don't know why apple cores real brought rotten apple cores and sand dunes. Also we hear from. John and Molly Chester who gave up city life to start a sustainable farm. The story of their trials. Errors and successes is the subject of the documentary, the biggest little farm the middle school years have got to be one of the most awkward periods of life. I don't know if many people would want to go back and revisit those years, but that's kind of what our guests Meyer Erskine an-, Anna concl-, did they co created the Hulu comedy series Penn fifteen in which they co star as seventh grade versions of themselves in the year two thousand in reality. They're both in their early thirties. But the rest of the shows middle schoolers are played by actual teens pen fifteen explores what it's like for Maya an-, Anna to deal with puberty mean girls and their first sexual feelings. It's embarrassing poignant and very funny and many of the stories come from Erskine and cockles real tribulations in middle school a heads up to parents. This interview includes a couple of brief non-explicit. Mentions about how they dealt with those kinds of sexual situations. When they were that age pen fifteen has just been renewed for a second season Meyer Erskine an ankle spoke with fresh air producer Sam brigger. They started with a clip from the show Anna and Maya are having a sleepover. After Anna has just had her first kiss with her boyfriend, Brendan, and it's not as she fantasized. It would be my Asir about it. And then like your lips close together when you guys are standing close together. Yeah. Um they touched. Wasn't. It literally wasn't at all. He put his lips like all the way around mine. L and like sucked. It's not funny. And then why was that she just sucked me put his tongue in my mouth any like to like a torpedo cat tongue. Drilled my mouth like. Do that. Yeah. I can't I wish I could your tone. Did you do it back or did it with hin back lake? It was in trouble. You know? Crazy. I know. Awful. But at least you have your first kiss, you know. Which? I really do. Everything's just different. I don't know. I just have to break up with them. So. He is not Brendan that badeah snacks at the bowling alley. You No, know? it's like, the Prenton that Trotha pack throw this. So what's up to you to get the next boyfriend? That's a scene from the hula show. Penn fifteen created and co starring my guess, my Erskine and Anaconda welcome to fresh air tanks. Thanks so much for having us. You know, those early teen years are such a strange time. And you have these bodies that are starting to sprout in adult hood, but you have minds that are probably not ready to handle that yet, and you having to cope with these more adult situations, and the thing that makes us a worse as your emotions are just so intense like everything is just saturated and overwhelming like just the way that that teens respond to music like it's so important in it's like their theme music, so everything feels so consequential, and you know, and then they're talking they're thinking about romance. So like everything is a powder keg. And there's so many misconceptions too. It's like in real life. Anna me, I thought kissing was going to be the ultimate feeling of romance. And that's all I wanted. Like, I was not interested in sexuality at the time. I just wanted to like hold someone's hand and fall in love and kiss like zaken, Kellyanne save by the bell. So when the real when the real version happen, which was just this weird tongue..
"meyer erskine" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Myers can Anaconda. Welcome to bullseye. It's great to have you guys on the show. Great. Thanks and congratulations on this on this. Awesome TV show that you're making. Thank you. Thank you. I kind of feel like I have spent the last twenty five ish years trying to run from middle school. So how did the two of you come to embrace it? So deeply, I don't know if it's ever if we'll ever fully embrace it because it's just a time of four, but we decided to start talking about it and sharing it with each other. Yeah. It just was for both of us the most traumatic time. So it was a topic that Anna, and I are very drawn to trauma. Talking about it and finding the humor in it and processing it. So that was sort of our heads just went for a long time. My mother-in-law is a marriage and family therapist, and she helped found this organization called girl, circle where adolescent girls get together to like work through their problems together and more emotional challenges. And she was explaining to me one day a few years ago that like one of the big problems with middle school is it because it's six seventh and eighth grade which is one of the most sensitive times in people's lives were the most changes happening and also because there it's such a small group of ages. There's very little social modeling. So the sixth graders don't have anyone to model for and the eighth graders. Don't have anyone to model for them. And so that basically turns it into Lord of the flies. That part of it just the happenstance that in, you know, eighteen sixty seven somebody decided to chop this three years out of the middle of education means that you're just completely flying blind for those three years of your life. Yeah. It's it's pretty it's pretty strange. And I think that that's you know, where for us. The humor comes from in terms of like your brain for the first time changing from child, and actually like neurologically more able to process adult things that you actually couldn't before. But the that you do not have the skills to cope with. So you're just pretending you're flying blind. Like, you said there's a lot of for us humor in that type of character. Where it's like, I know how to do this. And you don't know how to do this. Right. You know, right. Yeah. And also, the just the straddling between childhood, and adulthood or tween is like ripe. Moment for all these this pain and a holding on to your childhood because you want to still be loved by your parents. And you think that's the only way to be loved and yet you wanna also experience sexual things. But you don't know how to do that. So time of a lot of fumbling around. Yeah. A lot of mess ups do that. You've you have like a a a familiar or easy to access relationship with that part of your life. Or has it disappeared into the mists of time? It feels very present for me. Yeah. Me too. And I think part of Mayan I became like real life. Best friends, maybe twelve years ago, and I'm realizing now how much I was drawn to her because of her honesty, and I'm kind of the same way there's an over sharing thing that can sometimes be a problem. But it was so refreshing to me, here's this woman that is like talented and funny and nice and all those things, and then she's also talking about masturbation, and it's funny and real and it scared me at the time to I was like, oh my God. She's talking about these things that other women around me at least aren't talking about. And and and it's important. But I guess they didn't even know that it was important at that time. I was just like that's funny, and I think the same here except for me the way for me to deal with the shame that I had around things that I was going through at the age of thirteen like masturbation and getting my period and being ashamed of that the way that I processed it was by talking about it in a funny way, and that happened in college and when people didn't run away with disgust and throw rocks at me. I was like, okay. This is okay to talk about this works. But I still don't I think I'm still learning. To feel good about it. Like, it's not like it cured it in a year. It's just yeah. And weirdly for me, I think, and this is sort of like, a fateful thing. But my shame of that age would like stuff that was going on by parents and fighting that was a secret for me, and then not feeling lovable and that all kind of began at that age. And I also like would joke like joke about and talk about it too much. And so there's something bonding time kind of has been very this role. I think for us always did either of you have the kind of middle school where you have to undress in front of your classmates like an locker room or something. I didn't where did you undress. We we had bathrooms dolls. No, just not stalls. Actually, they were single bathrooms and people would change at different times into their P E shorts and shirts when some when you had gym class. We didn't have a locker room. Oh, that's peculiar. I have the same experience. I went to a very small middle school the the con self consciousness. I remember about it was that it was a private school and all the other kids. I was like this scholarship kid and all the other kids you had to buy school close to wear for gym, like t shirts and sweatshirts and sweatpants. And like my parents could only afford to buy me one side of them. And all the other kids have. Sizes. I wanna go seems way less bad than checking out who doesn't doesn't have pukes. I didn't. I we never got like totally naked that I can remember. But there, but I may have blocked it out. There were showers and people some people had shower, but like I was private with it. You know, I would like I was self conscious. You know? But I do remember wearing the rip away pants. In and they were like knockoff Dita's and gem, and then like boys would pull read them out, Ben. And I remember wearing a thong for one of the first times and not being outed. And everyone's like, oh, the teacher laugh. This. This is wrong. You get really skilled at hiding or maybe you think you're skilled at hiding your body parts as you're changing because I remember I had my period. And I would where where I created my own pads with toilet paper. That would be these thick books of paper stashed in my underwear. And I would push it out loud to my knees, basically. And so I would have to. I would have to learn how to in front of girls if we were changing and a store or something hide that and you know, right. I think I got away with it. When you say you had your own homemade Pat was that because you did not have access to other products commercially made one. Yeah, I didn't tell my parents. And so, and I didn't tell anyone I was so you didn't tell your parents about coming to visit. Now, I hit it for a year. And then I remember telling them as if it was the first time, I got it. And they took me out to dinner and gave me a necklace. I was like cheap one. But I was like, thanks guys. Yeah. When I felt prepared. But I my mom's still thinks I'm lying to this day that I lied about it. She thinks I'm showing off to friends when I say, I'm like, no, I actually lied, but we're not technically friends, but I'm pretty impressed. I mean, I would roll. Yeah. Toilet paper because it was just my instinct to do that. And this is a good instinct, I didn't wanna work tampon. And I wasn't ready to learn scary. Yeah. I on the other hand told my mom, I got my period late compared to friends and. Like once a year for like four years. I'd be like, I think I got it. That's really funny. Yeah. And I I'd be like still now. So know, and then Finally I got an she bought me like special underwear Victoria's Secret. So there's that to operate. And Yang Yang Yang. It's bullseye. I'm Jesse thorn. My guests are Anaconda, and my Erskine creators of the Hulu show Penn. Fifteen. Where either of you concerned with violence of any kind when you were in middle school. I mean within the schools are just in general. Yes, we're in general, my my parents fought a lot which is in the show. So I think I. I was really used to you know, a home where behind closed doors. It was crazy and unhappy, but the norm and what they taught me. And and I know that feel bad about that. Now is as you go to school, and you confront the public with the very happy face. And if anyone asks you how how are your parents or house, you say great? But then with that said, I did start asking see therapist when I was like eleven. Tell my therapist and they're. But that was that was the majority of of the of the biggest conflict in my life. Probably. I was never afraid of physical violence just mental violence from the girls. I think that's a that's a girl thing that I didn't have to deal with as a as a boy largely can be pretty vicious. Yeah. And complex at that age. Yeah. I'm remembering. And I would I oh, I actually I was kind of like scared of violence weirdly like when I was in four. When I was in fourth grade. There was a fifth grader who told me that all the fifth graders wanted to beat me up after school program, which was like this woman whose house we would go to really nice, and she was like, I hate to tell you this. But all the fifth graders wanna be. Which? I was so sensitive. I took it. So seriously for months every time I just remember being in line, and because you'd walk to the art class in Lyon, you'd walked Jim in line whenever like walking in line and then the fifth graders. I'll walk in line. And in my mind, they're all just like glaring at me, you know, just wanted to beat my prison yards yard. Yeah. And I didn't know why. She wouldn't tell me why he told my friends like this. This is what I don't know. Why? And then eventually months later, I brought it up again. Just like oh that. Yeah. No, no. My my older sister. Did that to me when I was in fourth grade, I made that up psychotic. And then someone else told me they were gonna kill me. They were gonna kill me. They're gonna kill me. And I was a freshman in high school. If I went to prom with a certain person that she she goes if you come to prom, you better bring a grave because you're gonna die. You got a lot of. I always very scared about two that's a lot of violence. Last one two also feels like a riddle of. How do you bring a grave? Exactly bullies can be smart. Unfortunately. Yeah. Gotta bring a grave. It's good line. Stuck with me? Yeah. How could it does to her? More with pen fifteen's Meyer Erskine an Anaconda after a quick break. When we come back. My Anna cast Richard KARN to play maya's dad Richard KARN. Of course, you probably know as Al from home improvement, and they'll tell me why they wanted Al from home improvement for the part. It's bullseye for maximum, fun dot org and NPR..
"meyer erskine" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Anna cockle decided to play herself at thirteen. She thought she knew what to expect. She's like thirtyish, by the way. Anna and her friend, my Erskine, we're making a show about middle school. It's called Penn. Fifteen it's set in the year two thousand when they were both about that age. Anyway, like, I said Anna knew what she wanted out of the part she put on braces and lip gloss. And she found a bewitched shirt. She knew it would be funny, but she didn't want it to be corny middle school is actually very scary. You're terrified of not fitting in of being too weird. Nobody really knows what they're doing in middle school. And you are deeply deeply insecure. What she didn't expect about the whole thing was how easily all of that came back. I think that something that I continue to rediscover is how not far away from that. I feel now at thirty one. And how I get better at faking it, essentially, I know, you know, if I slouch too much in the wrong place, like I'm gonna look more insecure or I'm gonna look insecure as I feel or whatever. And and I think by the I was really afraid of playing thirteen because of it being an authentic and feeling a big scotch and being silly, and Bob, blah, and not wanting it to go that route. But by the end of going like, oh, I right or wrong. This feels very close to who. I am now. Unfortunately, unfortunately, it's bullseye. Coming up, Anna. And Maya tell me about their new show pens fifteen how they mind stories from their own lives to make it and why they cast Richard how from home improvement as my staff you wanna stunt cast with us. Just because they were a celebrity there was has the right person. He had a there is an essence there that reminded us of my real, dad. Yeah. Exactly was true stories from my at Anna's actual teenage years. Totally bonkers. And then someone else told me they were gonna kill me. They were gonna kill me kill me. And I was a freshman in high school. I went to prominent a certain person that she she goes if you come to prom, you better bring a grave 'cause you're gonna die. Also have a short story from the wonderful writer, Simon rich. Plus, Stephen, Malcolm is- will tell us about the song that changed his life. That's all coming up on bolsa. Let's go. It's bullseye. Jesse thorn pen fifteen the new series on Hulu is show about middle school, or I guess maybe this is more accurate. It's about the middle school experience that you might have actually had theirs period stuff for starters, the show is set in the year two thousand and there is plenty of in sync and lit and Mandy Moore and BB tanks and rough riders t shirts and UFO pants, but Penn fifteen digs deeper into what it means to be twelve or thirteen a time in your life. When a lot of kids are very very insecure asking themselves questions like is my body changing. Or why is it my body changing? Or why don't I have more friends or, you know, just how am I supposed to talk to people? It's a show about kids that definitely isn't for kids. Sex administration come up a bit. We'll talk about that. In the interview as well. I talked with Anna concl- Meyer Erskine there, the creators and stars of Penn. Fifteen which is streaming right now on Hulu, and it is a brilliant. Shop hilarious and weird. And gross. And like I said, it's brutally honest about that part of our lives. My Anna are real life. Best friends and on pen fifteen. They play middle school aged versions of themselves. Maya has a horrible bowl cut administered. By her mother, Anna has braces, they're starting seventh grade at the beginning of the show and sixth grade wasn't great. But they have a pretty good feeling. This year is going to be different. Ask you something. I want you to tell me the.
"meyer erskine" Discussed on Bullseye with Jesse Thorn
"Now is as you go to school, and you confront the public with the very happy face. And if anyone asks you how how are your parents or house, you say great? But then with that said, I did start asking see therapists when I was like eleven so I told my therapist, and they were, but that was that was the majority of of the of the biggest conflict in my life. Probably. I was never afraid of physical violence just mental violence from the girls. That's a that's a girl thing that I didn't have to deal with as a as a boy largely can be pretty vicious. Yeah. And complex at that age. Yeah. I'm remembering. And I would I oh, I actually I was kind of like scared of violence weirdly like when I was in four, right? That's gone something when I was in fourth grade. There was a fifth grader who told me that all the fifth graders wanted to beat me up. It's crazy after school program, which was like this woman whose house we would go to really nice, and she was like, I I hate to tell you this. But all the fifth graders wanna be which. I would so sensitive. I took it. So seriously, infirm months every time I just remember being in line and lamented because you'd walk to the art class in line you'd walk to Jim in line whenever like walk in line. And then the fifth graders would all walk in line. And in my mind, they're all just like glaring at me, you know, just wanted to beat my. Yard. Yeah. And I didn't know why. She wouldn't tell me why I told my friends like this this is I don't know why. And then eventually months later, I brought it up again. Just like oh that. Yeah. No, no, no. My my older sister. Did that to me when I was in fourth grade, I made that up psychotic. And then someone else told me they were going to kill me. They were gonna kill me kill me. And I was a freshman in high school. If I went to prom with a certain person that she she goes a few come to prom. You better. Bring a grave because you're gonna die. Well, you got a lot of threats very scared of that too. That's a lot of violence. Last one two also feels like a riddle of sometime. How do you bring a grave? Exactly bullies. Can be smart. Yeah. Unfortunately. Yeah. Got to bring a grave, and it's good line. It stuck with me. How could it does to her? More with pen fifteen's Meyer Erskine and Anna conqueror after a quick break. When we come back. My an Anna cast Richard KARN to play maya's dad Richard KARN. Of course, you probably know as Al from home improvement, and they'll tell me why.
"meyer erskine" Discussed on KROQ 106.7FM
"Here's an idea. See that band right there Portugal. The man at the Bank of California stadium on August. Third in support of Mumford and sons, that's a pretty good one right there. Tickets go until tomorrow at ten AM. If you want to check that out Thursday morning on the Kevin Mitchell means Genton is here. It's time to get up on this. For a guy thinks there's too much TV. Sure. Gotten you up on a lot of TV late. Hi, you're watching. I'm watching a lot. But I'm watching them in sort of like run. So I'll say I there's eight of these four these I'm so excited are both you guys I know being because he loves the media alley chip. Do you guys any of you Hulu members? Oh, yeah. Sure. A really nice, man. It's two birthdays in a row gave me a Hulu. And you haven't you never ship. I I have logged on set it up. I'm sorry. What did he want? So much. No, I love you. Get it for you next year. Christmas after Christmas this time. I have something that I think will get you to not only log back on. Okay. But watch something. All right. This week might get up on his brand new television show from Hulu. It is hilarious touching and painfully awkward. It is called Penn. Fifteen. Comedians Meyer, Erskine, and Anna concl- have created an impressive coming of age comedy much. Like, Bo Burnham's recent eighth grade a movie that everybody likes mix in a little bit of strangers with candy up in this is a realistic portrayal of middle schoolers, but the biggest different in a difference than what makes pen fifteen so good at times completely off pudding is that the actress is my Anna star as themselves at thirteen years old, but they are thirty one. Thirty one year olds completely surrounded by thirteen year olds. There. You'll know they're older, but they definitely dress them down in May's younger makeup, and they wear retainers and braces, we should. And you know, how much I love retainers embraces, by the way, we should we should mention if you're wondering why the show's called Penn fifteen just picture it written out. Yeah. That's your answer. Yeah. As into it. It set in the year two thousand like I said, they're surrounded by actual middle schoolers and they find humor in some of the worst situations that we all found ourselves in puberty. But in such a smart way there are times where I don't know whether to laugh uncontrollably or also like feel pain for myself. 'cause I remember that moment something that'll make alley very happy. The lonely island boys are producers of the show alongside awesomeness TV at premier just February fifteenth. So you're not late to the game. It's perfectly dated. You'll feel totally in the air from the bikini kill theme song to the Coyote, ugly references to the idea that one of the characters only talks to her father, mostly through facts. The fax machine. There are no familiar faces in the show, but my playing themselves lead, the pack. They are so good. And you won't recognize anyone. But they're all so so good they deal with drinking and smoking, but the cool kids joining band Spice Girls fandom instant message chat, I found myself laughing harder at this than anything. I've watched all your life is great. They're ten episodes. You could bench right now. I dare you not to watch them back to back while at at theatre students at NYU, and they've been best friends ever since the show is fully based on things that they themselves have had a secrets that they've shared with each other over the past decade. And also they've they it's crazy 'cause there's a lot of forty jokes in it. And there's a lot of like easy jokes. But then they'll tackle heavy topics like divorce or puberty or racism or bullying and the show gets kind of intense. But that's what makes it so good. Myers actually from out here. She went to crossroads. You will recognize some of the kind of jokes things he goes through seen female voices. Currently tackling some of these unrepresented moments of childhood I only remember back when like welcome to the Dollhouse was the only option that you had to see sort of that youthful female in the struggles. They go through love that movie. It's a great movie, but this TV show kind of gives you the same feeling as a welcome to Dollhouse about two friends. And I promise you this these two girls, you will see everywhere, they're they're almost like the new in my opinion. And being you've been watching. I have not seen it. You know, I've read Olivetti are they the new broad city girls serious. I'll even go further. I think they're the new Tina Fey and Amy Poehler. Wow. Currently on Hulu right now. I'm telling you, you gotta watch it's called Penn. Fifteen and that is my get up on.
"meyer erskine" Discussed on MyTalk 107.1
"And now it's time for here. What we're watching live. Gosh, watch the television show together don't show Cobra presents here's what we're watching lives. We. Login live. The clubhouse, caring. We should call. It something different. It shouldn't be the clubhouse the tub house. Yes. Literally, we talk about TV in a tub. We try not to get too close to the TV when we're in the tub because you don't want the TV to find songs wall. Die thought about the weird tool said, okay. Okay. That works to how about a tub in a weird tool shed. So this segment has nothing to do with tubs or sheds. It has everything to do with the stuff. We're watching you know, this happens regularly. We wash stuff, but we don't have a place to really talk about it. Well, this is our place. So there are a couple of things the tub that we've been watching the house, and we're just in. Pick up some salts. I watched the show last night. It literally made me laugh out loud alone. Which to me is always the sign of something worth watching. And it was a friend who who gave me the suggestion. He was like I want you to watch this and see what you think because I have a hard. He's like, I'm a few episodes in. And I haven't I can't figure out what it is about the show. Whether I really like it or it's just so absurd that I can't stop laughing at it. It's called Penn fifteen and if you spelled out. It would look like. Okay. That word. He said it Penn fifteen and it's on the Hulu. Okay. So you gotta have the hill lose have. You heard anything about the show not until you told me about it. And then I was googling around about it. And I feel like I need to watch this show. So he's like he's like it's like stranger strangers with candy, but not really it's like middle school. But there's these two girls, but they're not at middle school, but they're adults, but they're in middle school. And I was like, okay. Did they go back to middle school like Jerry, you know, Jerry jewel. Candy. Here's the way you described. It also sort of reminded me of Napoleon dynamite in the sense that you can't really tell what you're watching like you don't quite understand. So the context of it you meet these two girls played by comics Meyer, Erskine an Anaconda they essentially play versions of themselves as teenage outcasts in the year two thousand so it's like them when they were teenagers like seventh graders. It starts with them going into seventh grade it starts with them as seventh graders. But they're actually thirty something year old women they're playing themselves, but they're playing themselves. Everyone else though is a middle schooler. Yeah. So the people that are surrounding them because they look young. I will say they look like they could maybe be like like freshmen in highschool or something because they look young they're styled and everything. But when you see who they're like acting with you're like, oh my God. This is hilarious. So they're just sort of besties, and it's just their lives, as you know, the first day of of seventh grade, and like literally they just say and do things that will make you laugh out loud. Because one I think you'll relate, but to because they're old people playing young people. They can do and say things that it would not be appropriate to watch young people saying, but things that you, and I did the first time we smoked the first time we. Maybe touched something the first time, you know, we made out with with people like all of those things are able to do in a very uncomfortable way. That will make you laugh and totally relate. I think that is I that's what fascinated me about this. Because you're right. One of the I think I want I don't wanna say issues, but one of the things I think that's difficult about watching things from that period or era that junior high age is that it is awkward watching young people play something that may have happened to you. It's like they go far, but not all the way far like it actually happened to you. And you can't relate to it. Also, there is something about the perspective of adulthood on those moments as you lived them and just how absurd you were. But you can totally feel it. You're like, oh my God every day. Was that intense every day was like. We are not gonna make it through the next year. Because this stuff is not real. There's also some very relatable things in some very deep things. But it's presented again. Because of the twist it's just presented in a way, that's for super funny, and endearing and you just want to keep watching more who did you? So your friend who recommended it to you couldn't figure out like he I think he loves it. But he was like I'm not sure why it's kind of dumb. You have that feeling or were you like, no, I'm all in? Yeah. No. I mean, I felt that like sort of again, I'm all in in the sense that I wanna keep watching. But I'm like this is weird. Like there's nothing really going on other than. It's not just the writing like there's some funny writing. But it's just that they're so sincere in playing those roles. That's you know, that's really endearing and it just made me want to watch them. Do their thing more. I love again that's called. If you're just joining us pen fifteen P E N one five it's on the Hulu. And I think the first season is now streaming it was just released. I think last week. I love it. Okay. So here's what I'm watching. We are telling this is our new segment here. We're watching live there. What were the top house? And right is that where they'll figure it out where the top house. So I am still sort of on like a documentary kick for a couple reasons. One of them being I never I don't have like a good routine a good TV routine lately. So I'm never sure what I'm going to get back to an episode of something if I start like a new series that I don't wanna get too excited about something not knowing when I get back to it. So just been watching like one off documentaries lately. And so some of the pond this one I was gonna watch Russian dolls. He's been watching. But I right next to it on my Netflix queue was this documentary called I dream of dance. And it's for two thousand people should know this, you're a certified dance professional. No, I'm a former dancer that wanted to be a professional, dancer and touched it for like, three seconds. I know what dance. So I dream of dance as a documentary about Denise, walls and. You might not know who Denise walls is if I just say her name, but it's wall just one walnut a number of Walston wall. She is the mother of Travis wall. Now does that name ring any bells for you at all? No, okay. He is an EMMY award winning choreographer, and he's got his start honor. He's got his start in television on. So you think you can dance? Oh, and then he did he started doing a lot of choreographed choreography for that show, and he built a name for himself wider in a wider audience. And the thing about dance is like you either are if you're a dancer, you might know a little bit about dance, and what's hot in dance at any given time, but outside of that community like you have to rely on shows like so you think you can dance that show did something for dance in a way that dance never had. It's like spotlight in this way. And so so that's who this is about. And it's really about kind of how she Bill. Her her studio in her empire and she's struggled with. Breast cancer. And she was a single mom of three and just kind of what her life looked like. And how she how she teaches in the number of the different studios that she's teaching or number of different students. She's teaching as they go through the national competition circuit and how they kind of progress in dance, and it is just an interesting. It's just an interesting documentary did watch especially if you are who's loved watching shows like so you think you can dance or even if you liked aspects of dance moms, you won't get the mom part. But you'll get the competition angle. You'll see a lot about what goes into those competitions. And what those elite dancers look like, it's amazing. And it's on Netflix. That's on that flex how long it's like two and a half hours. Oh, wow. I noticed about two and half hours. That's significant. Yeah. It is. It's not it's not short. But it is. It was it's totally. I'm enjoying it. I'm not all the way through yet. Okay. Awesome. Again was called I dream. Of day on dream of dance on Netflix. Yes. And Bradley was watching one five Penn fifteen on the Hulu and Holly really quickly. Did you want to throw in a plug for Russian doll? Oh, yeah. Go watch Russian doll on Netflix stars LaTasha Leone, and it's groundhog day ask, but it ends there. So this is about a story of a woman who is celebrating thirty-six birthday. She dies. But then she comes back alive. The same time the same place at that very moment in the birthday party. It's great go watch it net flicks. Eight episodes awesome. So you guys got stuff to watch. And we'll tell you more about what else we think you should be watching at a different time. But now when we come back we got a I don't want to say dig in. But we gotta talk about Ryan Adams. Okay. Oh, he's not Bryan. Bryan Adams, not the Canadian Ryan Adams, he's Naef. And we're gonna talk about him after this on mytalk one zero seven one. Previously.