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"methodist theology" Discussed on Christ United Methodist Church - Plano, TX
"I want to start today by telling you about one of the most rewarding things that i've done in ministry to this point. It was at the church that we served just before we moved here to christ united which was first united methodist church of sherman. Texas just up the up seventy five the night. My wife whitney and i were introduced to the pastor parish relations committee which was several months before we moved to sherman. Several key leaders of the congregation asked us about the possibility of offering modern worship. Now we've offered modern worship here for gosh going on twenty years but as of two thousand thirteen sherman did not for sherman has a beautiful sanctuary. A beautiful chapel. Both of which are perfect for wonderfully traditional worship but church leaders understood that we were not reaching people who needed our methodist theology but who did not connect through traditional worship and so shortly after we got there we put together a task force that met over the course of more than a year researching and praying and discussing and debating and discerning and then ultimately planning we came to believe that the holy spirit was leading us to start a modern worshiping community off campus. And we actually found a vacant building just a couple of blocks from the church. That seemed perfect. It had been Half medical supplies store and half oil change shop now. Admittedly seem like an unlikely place for a church. The medical supply half smelled like cat litter for reasons. I didn't fully understand. The garage was a garage with oil change pans and the whole nine but i got really excited about the possibilities that it presented had florida ceiling windows that looked out over the steeple of the church which was again just a couple of blocks away. We were there and i took pictures and i texted them to my wife whitney. And she responded. I think you've lost your mind but we entered into a wonderful partnership with the owner who thoroughly renovated it for our use. We raised some money for the furnishings. And on alder. It's not a great picture. I know but it kind of gives you a sense of the worship space on aldgate day which is may twenty fourth twenty fourteen. We launched what we called mosaic. From that point on every sunday morning i would preach in the chapel. At eight thirty. I would walk across the street to mosaic to preach at nine forty five and then walked back to the sanctuary to preach at eleven. And whitney and i absolutely loved it. She and i had the chance to worship together. Every sunday. the stage was small. And so i'd sat next to her which doesn't happen very often and mosaic became a thriving community with some long term members who just preferred modern worship as well as lots of folks who never would have darkened the doors of our very traditional main campus. It grew into an eclectic community of disciples from diverse theological backgrounds in some cases. No theological background from just about every stage and walk of life. Our informal theme song at mosaic was a song called. Come as you are. Now my gen-x friends probably hear that title and immediately think of this band gen-x thank you. I know somebody all do down. That's obviously not the song that i mean. That's a great song to anthem for my generation. But i'm actually talking about the modern worship song by this guy this guy. Yes david crowder. It's a it's a powerful moving worship song begins with these words. Come out of sadness from wherever. You've been come brokenhearted. Let rescue begin. Come as you are became the informal theme song of mosaic. Because it's a beautiful summary of christ's invitation to the world no matter who you are no matter what you've done or not done no matter where your spiritual journey has taken you to this point. You are welcome here in household and of course the kingdom of god. And if you've heard that song you know how powerful the chorus is so lay down your burdens. Lay down your shame. All who are broken. Lift up your face a wander. Come home you're not too far so late on your hurt laid out of your heart. Come as you are the good news. The gospel of jesus christ begins with that simple but life-changing affirmation and as the body of christ in the world every congregation of christ. Church is called to extend that same invitation. We know this. The invitation is for everyone because we believe that it is in the fellowship of the community of faith that we find our spiritual home so this is the fourth and find a week of our sermon series. Why church we've been exploring throughout the month of september the question of just why it is we believe that everyone needs and i would actually go for further and argue that everyone deserves a family of faith to call home back in week one. We talked about the power of prayer when we pray together as a community of faith that prayer has the power to comfort us inform us and challenge us and change us. Then we too. We talked about how we grow in our faith together which often happens in sunday school bible studies and small groups in week three. We talked about how we serve others. Which has the power to transform ourselves our community and our world and all of sermons on the website. If you missed any of them like to get caught up now i also mentioned in the announcements that this is the eight. The final of our eight week back to school season throughout august and september we've been highlighting a different ministry of our car gatien. Each week we're wrapping it up with today is an emphasis on the connection on the community on the fellowship that we find here hence the big fair after the eleven o'clock service and we're reading today from luke's gospel. What you need to know. Before i read is that this is a passage in which jesus is having dinner at the house of a leader of the pharisees. So i'm gonna read about half the passage. I will come back and read the rest later. Wasn't friends with the word of god is and is proclaimed by god's servant the evangelist luke when jesus noticed how the guests chose the places of honor. He told the parable when you are invited by someone to a wedding banquet do not sit down at the place of honor in case someone more distinguished than you has been invited by your host and the host. Who invited you both of you may come and say you give this person your place and then in disgrace you would start to take the lowest place but when you are invited go and sit down at the lowest place so that when your host comes he may say to you friend move up higher than you will be honored in the presence of all who sit at the table with you for all who exalt themselves will be humbled and those who humble themselves will be exalted. He said also to the one who had invited him. When you give a luncheon or dinner do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors. In case they may invite you in return and you would be repaid but when you give a banquet and bite the poor the cripple the lame and the blind and you will be blessed because they cannot repay you for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous says. The word gone for the people who have gone. Thanks be to god. Our passage today includes two different parables. The first of which we just read the other..
"methodist theology" Discussed on Christ United Methodist Church - Plano, TX
"Just think top of your head and you just go from the top of your head down to the bottom of your toes and try to just like you visualize all of your stress and stuff to the ground and it works for me. And then the last three minutes sitting in silence. I could not sit in silence more than three minutes for very long so that that's an example of specific wisdom. That works for me that i found in different fish. Okay when you do read things from other traditions. are there any like key component of methodist theology. That you kind of always lay over it or that you kind of keep in perspective. Well so i mean the thing about methodist theology is that it's it starts and ends with grayson in the middle of grace so i would say if something if i'm reading something that is inconsistent with a message about the unconditional love of god. Then i kind of dismiss it. Which by the way eliminates fair amount of evangelical thought. I mean for me not to be super judgmental about that but but that other So my experience though. Is that if you're if you're assumption. Is that the holy spirit can work wherever And that god loves all of creation and that god loves you unconditionally and always will then my my experiences that you can read other things without this kind of nagging fear about it changing your whatever. Yeah okay okay so proverbs is majority. I think i think this is what you said. So you know interrupt not that provinces a majority that life is basic life choices. Yes wasn't tradition in general lays out binary choice so you're either wiser either foolish if you're wise you're righteous at. You're foolish your wicked. It's very straightforward. And if you are foolish. Furious coffer scoff at knowledge and wisdom. Then you're going to get your just desserts. And here's the ironic thing about the book of job is in the wisdom tradition and the book of job makes the opposite argument most at least to that assumption on its head. If you do good yet good you do get bad. That's the the then royal class we learn that. Do do to do to ro a mystic theology right than the righteous are always rewarded and the wicked are always punished. Now we believe that logically right that that is ultimately true but in the ancient world it was thought to be this life of course job has the opposite experience and jobs also in the wisdom tradition. So what this is what. I love about the bible like you get in the same tradition and i think they're not back to back to their pretty close. Its job and psalms and that right yeah job and then psalms and then proverbs that whole section gives you some pretty different Maybe not world news but draw some pretty different theological conclusions and yet it's all there hanging together in the same not just in the same book and not just in the same testament old testament but at the same tradition within the same book. Which i think is kind of kind of awesome..
"methodist theology" Discussed on Christ United Methodist Church - Plano, TX
"Now makes crispy jalapeno bills interesting delicious but everything should be spicy in my opinion but with cheddar cheese. Yeah that's my family's thing. I didn't know that was weird until interesting. So okay so in theology than the systematic theology. What would if it's a potluck What would green bean casserole be. Let's the thing that people don't like about themselves that they have to acknowledge repentance. Is it the repentance of systematic theology. Possibly the cranberry jello probably right would be from fresh cranberries. I know but they can't stuff you see what we got to revisit this. We'll come back around this. we've got it. We got okay. So let's go ahead and talk about The terms like being saved in salvation different. How do people misunderstand them all that. So okay so salvation is just. It's very cherchi word. Use that phrase in the sermon yet. Because it can it can turn people off. It just means healing so the concept of like theologically. Speaking the fancy word is so. So how is it that we are Reconciled in our relationship with god re restored in relationship got that's what salvation is. The language around saved is a little loaded because of the way some traditions use it and the way some people experience that so what i talked about in the sermon was You know as a methodist youth minister every once in a while i would say it was annually. You know some some youth or group of youth would come to me with this anxious question not knowing if they were quote unquote saved very funny movie by the way. Have you seen the movie saved. I am the body of christ throws the bible such a great scene like for some traditions. Salvation is all about what. Paul would call justification. Which is that moment when we are forgiven and restored in our relationship with god. He's at one time Well for some traditions. It is so for some traditions. Its once saved always saved and it really is all about that moment when you accept christ or come to christ and all that which Which we believe to but we just don't focus it on that moment of justification in methodist theology justification is just the beginning. Yes it's the rest of the journey that really demands our attention and it's the rest of the journey so in a way like systematically we think about this is justification is the work of christ on the cross were restored or in our relationship with god. Sanctification is the work of the holy spirit within us. Transforming us the rest of our lives as we grow in love forgotten our fellow human beings the way the metaphor wesley used. Thanks very well. I find it very helpful is if if the spiritual journey is a house then the porch. The front porch is prevented. Grace's where jesus like think about song softly and tenderly. Jesus calling like we are invited into relationship with god throughout our lives. The moment we accept accept christ. Except the grace of god say yes to god him and his way to think about this..
"methodist theology" Discussed on Christ United Methodist Church - Plano, TX
"Gloom last twelve months and the idea that hopefully better days to come okay so i would be uncomfortable making an analogy to the last days of judah share with. Now it's probably not quite the same well because like i would never interpret. The people do this. So it's a good question. I think we need to get on the table. There are people who who interpret natural disaster or like these kind of world events as god throwing fire bolts thunderbolts. Whitening bolt of lightning bolts really think lightning bolts from the sky to punish us for that living. Yeah that's terrible theology. Terrible the people do it all the time. Podcast right now where somebody right now. yeah so. that's garbage subscribe from that bone. Subscribe exactly and encourage your friends and family. To unsubscribe from those kind of So i don't think i would make that kind of comparison to me it's it's how do we live faithfully in the midst of the storms of life that matters the most and so with the new covenant on our hearts that is as christians we believe is ours by virtue of our faith in christ then our task becomes saying yes to god as fully and thoroughly as we can and what that looks like is following the way of christ To the extent that we can at least offer you will on our hearts but we're not robots right. Yeah but it's it's like the holy spirit is within the holy spirit has written that on hearts and so we have the ability to say yes. I think that's the way i would go with that. So they're all the exile. Did god ever abandoned got her. You know the answer that well. I think i guess when i think about Thinking about the last month yet again. It's not the same as what's going on here but saying that over and over again. Good because i think there. There's plenty of bad theology. That would kind of make it a an analogy there. But i i never felt abandoned by god and i always knew that. And if you say this all the time like this this too shall pass and just like better days are gonna come. And i think that's what i see all the time in the scripture. This guide saying this will not last forever and so and that got always with us Or this is part of what makes the The prophets tricky to read to me. Because it's easy to if you were to kind of Read this in a fundamentalist flat way. Then you would say well clearly. God's judgment because all in the old all in the profits they say will. God's can do this to you because you were doing it right. And that's just not the way we understand that's not that's not the way methodist theology processes who got is or how god shows up in the world. Yeah it's like. We don't read the book of revelation as a train schedule for the end of the world. Plenty of people who do would. That's just not how we make sense of it so it's it's i'm glad you like. I'm glad you opened up this line of conversation. Because it's really really vitally important What the goal of the sermon series was to take a survey of the ways in which god has invited god's people in relationship and throughout our salvation history and obviously for christians. The culmination of that is in christ back to your original question about..
"methodist theology" Discussed on Talking About The Bible with Rev. Bob Wood
"This is Bob would talking about the Bible podcast. It's really good to be back with you. I've been out of the loop for several months because of a heart attack ahead in November put on bedrest and I wasn't allowed to do a lot so I had to kind of focus on the things that really needed to get done. The podcast is an important but it was a came to be something I had to put on the back burner but as I start the podcast again today. I am kind of cheating because I'm going to be using a sermon that I gave several years ago. At the giant Methodist Church analysts say Honduras called methodist beliefs. I hope you enjoy it. If you have a pin and you want to win with our fill in the blanks in the middle of your worship. She is a little separate page which says on the top of it methodist beliefs methodist movies. A lot of people that I run into when you talk to them about their churches. They know what their churches believe. I dare you to find a Jehovah's witness that doesn't know what his church believe they know you can find to Mormon boys walking down the street. Ask Him what the Mormon Church believes. And they'll know I'd hate to give test methodist asking them. What Methodist Belief Fair? I'm afraid there'd be a lot of failure this past week last two weeks. The United Methodist Church. Not We're not united methods methods church. The Caribbean Americans. The United Methodist International had been meeting in Portland Oregon. Anyone following the debates. There is clear that there's not a clear understanding what they agree on what they believe. But in our tradition tradition the Methodist Church of the Carribean in the Americas the tradition of the Methodist Church in the Americas before which was the Wesleyan Methodist Church. So we all still think of our us as being a Wesleyan Methodist Church all the way back to England. We have a clear understanding our beliefs. John and Charles Wesley. Experience in those of the other young methodist men was affected their teachings in their beliefs such things as their experience when it comes down to not knowing for sure if they were saved John and Charles and the others had worked so much they had show hard to make sure they were saved and yet they did not since it in their hearts a lot of people may be like that even today in our world you talk to people and ask them if they know that they're going to heaven and there's a lack of confidence in that they are going to go ahead John. In Charleston teachings spread across the world and their short lifetime missionaries went out with this understanding this teaching not anything new just going back to the scriptures not anything revolutionary per se. Not Anything that they thought of themselves. Not something that. An Angel came down and gave him a new book. They just started to read the old book that had for many people in the organized structure of the Church in England and gone away. You know England and their day when you were born in your community you were taken to the church and you are baptized and you were a member of the Church. England all your life. It was the thing to do. You weren't a member of the Church of England in some places you couldn't vote couldn't hold public office. Everyone had to be a member of the church in England and membership in the Church of England wasn't about anything about your relationship with God had far more to do with just if you'd gone and sign the paper and turn the right ceremonies and said the right things and John Charles found that not to really fill their needs in their heart their experiences both of them not at alter skate but both within a few short days in seventeen thirty eight. Charles on pentecost Sunday and then John Wesley. A few days later at the society meeting and alter skate changed their lives. They read something John as we read John. Read or heard someone reading something that Martin Luther had written about salvation by faith and it was really changed his life he no longer saw salvation as being something that you did something that God did for you. It wasn't something you worked in earned. If you've got enough points you would get a check mark in your name. We get in the life of life. It was something that God did through you are. I fill talks about one of the things that John and Charles recognized and that we as methodist hold true all need to be saved. That's the first full villain all need to be saved. Everybody needs to be saved is now for a special club. If not that something you can get by on John. Charles knew that real well you know. Their father and their grandfathers had been ministers in the church. You would think that. Not only the preacher son but the peaches grandson would obviously get you in heaven all need to be say. Romans three twenty three says for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. We all are centers. And we all have sinned. And we all aren't living up to God's expectation which is perfection we've all sinned somewhere in our is maybe recently maybe just a few moments ago maybe years ago but all of us have universally said. Romans three chapter chapter three verse. Ten to twelve says as it is written there is none righteous. No not one. There's none that understand it. There is none that speak it seeking after God. There are are all gone out on their own way. They are together becoming unprofitable. There is none that do good. No not one. And so on fourteen versus two and three says the Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men to see if there were any. They did that any for any they. Any that did understand and see God they all are GonNa side. They're all together became filthy. There is none that do as good. No not one. We may see somebody look at them and say my goodness that person is so good. That person is so holy. I'm sure they never did anything wrong. In the event that have race children know that not to be so little. Sarah is only nineteen months old. My littlest daughter. My goodness she can be mean. She thinks we're not looking. She goes in boxes or brother in the head. She scratches him. She's only nineteen months old and he and I say this now. I grew up in this around. Y'All our Jerry. By the time she's fifteen sixteen seventeen years old. I assure you she won't be able to stand in front of you and tell you she said because I already seen it now. That is true for all of us. We have all said. How many are the take to get in hell? Although won only one only way we can get into heaven on our own accord is to have never sinned in the scripture says right there we all have settled number two. The y'all and Y'all who've heard me preach for this past year that I've been here have heard all these points before because I preach methodist theology the second point in Methodist Theology. You need to note is that all may be saved every one of us can be saved. There's no one that is outside the bounds of salvation. There is no one who listened to the point where God's salvation cannot come to them all people may be saved a man in the United States who is on death row in my home state of Florida. If you had to put together diagram that would say or a history that would say this is an evil man. Well this man's history surely would. He was found guilty of killing two girls who are university students at Florida State University later on. He was found guilty of killing several others. And would it came down to the last few days of his life. He admitted to killing forty one women in the course of his lives you would think how could such a man he asked for Dr Dobson? Some of the older folks may have heard Dr Dobson famous minister in the United States to come and see him and Dr Dawson did the last few days of life and prayed with him to get say. Dr Dobson said it was clear that after he prayed that he stood before him a changed me. All of us can be saved. There's no sin that you have committed and you think you know. I know something I've done in my life. That is so horrible that God could never forgive me and I want you to know that. There's not there is not the unforgivable sin that Jesus talks about is a sin of rejecting Jesus before all else. There's nothing that we can do to separate us. From the love of God John Three Sixteen says for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son that who so ever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life. It doesn't say there are some people. It says the Gods of other world that who still ever believe anyone that believe in God can be saved. Nothing you can do. Nothing that you have done can keep you from. God's Love and God's salvation number three all may know themselves save all they know themselves saved. That's what John and Charles didn't know they didn't know themselves to be saved. They were working so hard to make sure because they didn't know that they were saved the experience that Charles had pentecost and that Jon had at Alder Skate. We're an experience of assurance knowing that they were saved brothers and sisters. When you're saved you can sense in your heart. The Holy Spirit and God's law the Scripture says there in Romans eight sixteen that the spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God. That's the Holy Spirit in our life. Witnesses to us that we are God's children when people come to alter when they pray in their home when they ask Jesus blood to be applied their sin and they become believers and committed to Christ they since it in their heart. Though I stand at the door knock if any man will open the door I will come in and I will stop with him and he with me. Jesus is ready to enter your heart as we think so often all made though themselves. Say if you don't know for sure that's something that needs to be fixed. John and Charles felt it. We read there were..