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Fresh update on "messier" discussed on The Instigators with Andrew Peters and Craig Rivet
"W G R Sports Radio 5 50 all sports all the time. So just to basically sum it up, and we'll talk about it with Elliott Friedman last night is exactly what you get if you let the players police themselves. So where do we stand? Is the league police it or to the players, police it or both, and Does. Is the team addressed before that game last night. Craig. You think Whether it's um, say their jury someone I'm not saying that that's what they were told to do. I'm just asking if you think that there's a meeting before the game after all the changes in the front office I don't believe that Chris Jury went out down and spoke to the team. I think the head coach Was probably loud and clear in his message. No question moving moving into that came Okay, That's it. It's all I have. That's not coming from those players. It's not coming from the players that's coming from a collective team meeting. And That was just not acceptable. And the way they look thought of what happened with, you know. It's never and attempt a Premier Inn and the way Tom Wilson treated those players. There had to be Push back and guess what? The Rangers don't have the players to do it. Washington Capitals on the other side have multiple players. Brendan Dillon, Tom Wilson's A Dana Ciara. Ciara was on the ice for that. And listen. I mean, they don't have the players to do it. Did you read Jeff Mark Messier's comments there. Don't You don't have them. Yeah, he had a great comment. He he does not. He just not agree with how the rebuild is gone. He basically says my opinion If you're going to win, you gotta be able to win in the streets and the alley. You know, but that's old school. Maybe that isn't that too old school though, Craig? Well, I thought it was. What do you mean? I mean, I keep what I keep hearing that the game's changed. I'm so contrasting. I'm so confused. Confused. I am confused. I am confused. I did not think they're going either. We talked about this every day, and we always agree. Don't you're not confused. You know exactly what's going on. You think the Tampa Bay Lightning when they got blown out? Four straight two years ago, four straight to the Columbus Blue Jackets. They got a worked. They got outhustled. They got a muscled they were dominated. This is a team and Tampa Bay that had 128 points. How do you lose? You lose with with old Stevie Stamp Coast and COO trough and all their superstar little Dangler. It's about getting some toughness. Some grind some grit, some snarl some tenaciousness. Starting to realize In order to win. Can't just win with ballerinas. You've got to have the other. You gotta have the street fighters. The alley fighters. You gotta have guys that love to go in the trenches. Mark Messier. The smart guy. One of you. He is the ultimate player. Tell you right now, if you were to sit there right now and talk to Wayne Gretzky. Would literally bet everything I own. Everything. Everything I own. At Wayne Gretzky would tell you the exact same thing. Because Gwen Gretzky was the ultimate Ultimate ballerina. But in order for him to do his dance in order for him to be the best ballerina and do his dance. He needed the alley fighters and the street fighters, The trench guys, the nasty guys, he needed those guys to fill out the roster. Make it Make it hole to make it proper to have all of that puzzle. All of the pieces need to fit. Can't have the same players. And You have you have one of the greatest players in the history of hockey. And Mark Messier. That's basically saying Yeah. You need You need a certain style of player to fit with your elite, high end talented players. You have Lula Morello that we had on the most storied G. M's. In NHL history spoke of the same thing, did he not Petey? Hey, where's works?.
Fresh update on "messier" discussed on The Instigators with Andrew Peters and Craig Rivet
"I mean, there was speculation. I don't know for sure. But I'm just gonna ask Elliot. It's just fall on the lap of the Rangers. They say that You know the statement that went out by the Rangers. Thea other day? Um Little bit. I browsing. With anybody that read it, you know, trying to, uh Talk about George Parros, you know, should be fired from his position. It's a pretty bold statement, you know, and Rangers owner who made this decision feels that this you know the firing of Gordon and Davidson had nothing to do with this statement. That they're looking to make change. And You would, you would call it complete baloney. If it weren't for a guy like Chris jury. Who has been waiting in the wings. Who has been honing his skills. And understanding of the position. If it weren't for Chris jury waiting, Okay. And, you know, Chris jury, I think you know you played with MPD. Never not one single time in all the years that we have been together, 12 years, I think me and you 13 years that we've known each other. We've been really good friends. I have not one single time. All of those years. Heard you say one. And I mean not one negative thing about this man. It just seemed like The only way I could describe to him is he's like Yoda. He's all class all business all the time. He's a visa his years. Yeah, Yes, Truest, You know, like I was a captain. But oh, my God. Like I mean, this guy was like a legend. He was just kind of like Good guys on his back and just did things the right way. Right? And I appreciate hearing these stories on on guys like this, You know, you hear about guys here in buffalo have some, you know. Christie areas has done a great job. He's he's you want to Stanley Cup? Hey, did some great things throughout his career. Italy world serious Did they win that? Yeah. Tim Connelly can call him cut while I mean you gotta have another championship to his resume, Tim Connelly did win the Halloween costume. The Halloween Party costume. Competition going as Chris Terreri from the Little League World Series. But you know what? I'll see this, You know, I mean, When it went on when when changes have been made in the past year with the sabers I've always thought, you know, this would be a wonderful guy for the goal is to go out and hire and bring in But deep down, you know, he's never gonna leave New York. He's a Ranger. He the only team he would have left the sabers four would have been for the Rangers grew up, I think in Connecticut loving the Rangers He was in a unbelievable position with them and You know, knowing that probably at some point this was going to happen this this opportunity. What I mean What a guy. What? What? What a guy to have as the face of your franchise. I mean, That that's that's all I can say. So when you look at him, you, you know, I think that And he is now the face of that franchise. I mean, there isn't a player. There's no Henrik Lundquist. There's no I mean. Only use the face of the franchise. I really don't think that he has been. I think he has been a big part. I don't think you're ever the face of the Rangers. Okay? Rangers had Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier. Brian Lemmon currently I'm not saying all time I'm just all times. I'm just saying, I'm just saying Chris jury is general manager. Okay? Think he's a really smart hockey guy. I don't know. I'm just saying that from what I've heard from so many people here in Buffalo when, when spoken about Chris Cherie? He? He's he's a true professional. I think he's put in a position. In New York that they have a very young team. They have some some top and talent and he's got some stuff to work with there. And it'll be interesting. See first time general manager Where he plans on You know, working from from from what he has currently right now? Well, there were rumors There were rumors..
Fresh update on "messier" discussed on Boomer & Gio
"He was a was a great hockey player. And i know that he has a great reputation within league circles as well but he obviously knows where this team is missing. Key points key types of players. And he's going to have to fix it just quickly messier a part of this. Because i suppose torches name was floating around now. He's not okay. Let's see that all right all rangers right back at tonight in boston. And the islanders host the devils tonight. I'll stick with the off baseball just because it was late. Knicks played in denver last night. And this was one of those rare nights where they just decided We.
Fresh update on "messier" discussed on Howard and Jeremy
"I thought the statement was was Fantastic, and that's why I said it is odd that you know it's almost like the GM and the president went to him and said You can't do that. What did you say? You don't fire and yeah, right. And then and now nobody is reporting it that way. Everybody is saying This was in the works. The owner and the GM of the president weren't seen eye to eye. He wasn't happy. The rebuild was going too slow. They miss the playoffs again. I honestly think he had nothing to do on the basketball side. The Knicks are good. He couldn't fire anybody. So he went to the hockey team like it's been portrayed that basically, James Dolan doesn't really give two hoots about the hockey team like he's really into the Knicks, which is why they fire everybody every two years. And now all of a sudden that was part of the whole shocking thing like this guy doesn't even acknowledge the hockey team is in existence. And all of a sudden he fires the president the GM, so it's being portrayed as They were philosophically in different places. The owner wasn't happy The rebuild was taking too much time. Someone did suggest they don't have enough grit that the Washington game maybe didn't cause it. What was part of like they would have been getting beat by the Islanders. They've been getting pushed around. If you're the Rangers, you can't lose to the Islanders all the time, and that maybe he was getting upset at all that. I would love to see for me again. What would I love the GM of the President? Walk into doughnuts? Officer? You can't do that condolences. Sure I can. I'm the owner. Well, we don't agree. Right? Then you're fired. I mean, I just think this would be Fantastic story line to continue, but it sounds like they were philosophically. They weren't seeing eye to eye on how the build was going and the construction of the team. And now Mark Mark Messier's here to save the day. Gotta win in the alley, baby. Yeah, I love Messier. I I revere. Messier for what he did. But the whole thing about you gotta build a team to win in the street and in the alley. Really? The Flyers did that in 1975. No, I'm not sure. I mean, you gotta have some guys who can stand up for themselves. But in recent years, I mean, The king. Like all penguins, the Blackhawks have tap tap. It's tough guys in Washington. I mean, you sure you're talking about like some guys that can whatever they were gonna handle themselves. I know can't bring myself to talk about this this anymore. Of course I can. But it's just I get so just finally. It's really fun. It is really is really funny. Did the sport deserves to be mocked? It's really funny. You know the whole thing about codes. I tweeted this out. I saw a clip last night. Pretty sure it was the Cubs. I don't know who they were playing, but it really doesn't matter. And I think it was a cub. Built. It was at Wrigley, and I think it was a Cubs player left handed batteries at the plate. He swings he knocks the ball deep to right field. He does the bat flip. And then looks at is it whose dugout is on the third base side at Wrigley is that the cops were the visiting team. I gotta look this up because I think it does matter. He stares at the third base side dugout. And it matters because if that's the visiting team bat flip look at the dugout. Almost caught on the warning track, and I am center going on by code. He bad flipped. He stared down. Does he get hit? The next time is the code for on Lee, If you if you hit a home run on the bat flip, or does he still get plunked? He did show up the picture, right? He grabbed it out. Right. He thought he hit it out of the park. Wind must have been blown and at Wrigley, so he does the flip. He's does the stare down. Oh, they caught it. Okay? I don't know if you still plan to go off to check the code book on that Anyway, Go ahead. We could move on. I don't get that watching just and also one more thing on the silliness of last night. The funny thing is, you know, sometimes you'll hear people make a point that well. I mean last night's game, and you get a lot of viewers, a lot of lot of fringe hockey fans going to wash that game's gonna be a big rating for them. First off. You don't sign television contracts based on one big game you signed it based on how many you get all the time. You know it's that Congratulations on your one big writing number two. If an NHL fan or whatever. I want to see a French fan, and it tells going for new fans if some new fan tuned in to watch that game last night. They liked what they saw. They think I can't watch another game. Guess what? You're not going to see what you saw last night. I see that for a couple of years probably won't see any fights at all. If you watch it right, there aren't really any fights anymore. So there's that also added into all this is that you know what what the Rangers had to do. They did all that. They went to all these lengths. Blah, blah, blah. The And then they just lost four to and DJ. Oh, she's got a hat trick on the day of the first game after his dad died. He got completely overshadowed by all the nonsense, right? Which would have been a hell of a story by those. Hey, it was good for T. J Oshie. He's good. He's been good for a long time. So I got a text. Apparently it was Jack Peterson. Okay, So this does this. He violated the code. He did a backflip and stared at the Cubs dugout. But he was a flight..
Lynne Spears Objects to Ex-Husband Jamie Spending Britney’s Money
"Lynne spears objects to her ex husband spending money for his lawyers to defend him on. Tv yes. Lynn is britney spears mom that she has issues with her ex husband. Jamie who is britney's conservative has been britney's conservative for a longtime she's objecting to how he's spending their daughters money. So pretty has another hearing in her conservatorship. Legal battle will now. Lynn is objecting to how he's spending the money and she actually foul port saying that utterly excessive and it serves no service to britney spears all so this is what she takes objection to. He's spent nearly nine hundred thousand dollars with a law firm that he retained overall total. He spent about two million dollars of britain's money on his lawyer fees and linda's even saying she thinks that he needs to pay that money back. Give it back to britney's state. It's really wild in this case just keeps getting messier and messier.
Myanmar's Military Coup: How We Got Here
"The country's civilian leader, Ahn Sung Souci, will remain in custody for another two days. The military staged a coup on February. 1st and people have been protesting it, but the big questions right now are why did the coup happened when it did? And what happens next? Here's NPR's Julie McCarthy. By the hundreds of thousands citizens armed only with indignation March daily against the military takeover. the escalating dangers, teachers, engineers and doctors in their scrubs demand that civilian rule be reinstated the country's defacto leader Aung Songs, Hoochie was arrested February 1st thwarting the decisive re election of her National League for Democracy. The U. N Human Rights Office is tracking more than 350 political and state officials, along with activists, journalists, monks and students who have been detained. Young gon based commentator Kinzel Win, says the atmosphere Feels like the upheaval of 1988 when the whole country went out to protest on the streets of Yangon just by comparison, at time, it ended badly. Some people shot and kills and the army taking over again. When says it is a once in a generation event, especially inflaming the young voters who came of age under me and Mars fitful transition to democracy. They don't want to even hear the name of that. C zero Power takeoff power historian thought Manu, author of the Hidden History of Burma, says over the past decade the Army had relinquished day today governing to an elected parliament. Ah hybrid arrangement that left to the generals in charge of security and believing that after surviving years of Western sanctions They were in a position of strength. But chief parliamentarian Long songs who achieved sought to change that governing model and the constitutional change she wanted was to have the army under the control of an elected government. And under the control of her and this has led to tension meant who says Souci was alert to the possibility the army would probe for an opportunity to overthrow her November's election set the stage. Souci refused to discuss any alleged irregularities at the polls, which the army claimed had reduced its share of oats. Generals took the refusal as an affront on do that feeling of disrespect comes after many years where they've also felt not properly consulted where she's had the limelight where she seeking to undermine this kind of set up that they've had over the past 10 years meant juices from the Army's point of view, the hybrid model might have worked with lesser luminaries. The generals didn't count on the 75 year old on songs. Hooches sustained Star power or that this daughter of Burma's independence hero had a taste for power that might sideline them. But she broke the mold and in a way what's happened this past week? Has been the end of that experiment to see if that system could work with her as well, innit? Kinzel Win says it's entirely possible that the Army never intended Maura than one term for young songs hoochie and they had to find every Ruthie can think of You keep her away, and now it has succeeded but meant who says it's not clear whether the generals will only be satisfied if Souci is permanently removed. The situation, he says, is difficult to read. Myanmar's military rulers have seized power during a pandemic, which has made the messiness of governing even Messier. People are hungry and financially hurting, and now they stand on balconies, banging pots and pans furious over losing their democratic experiment. Julie McCarthy. NPR news
California reports record 585 coronavirus deaths in single day
"2021 beginning with over 350,000 coronavirus related deaths and the more contagious strain known as the UK variant. California started the new year by reporting a record 585 coronavirus deaths in a single day, and health officials there say they have four confirmed cases of the new Covitz train. Meanwhile, large gatherings continue in New York Sheriff's broke up three New Year's Eve parties with big groups of Maskell. It's revelers. And there were reports of other illegal events around the country. This all comes as the race to vaccinate millions of Americans is off to a slower messier start and public health officials and leaders of Operation Warp speed
Race to vaccinate millions in US off to slow, messy start
"Are acknowledging the Cupid 19 vaccination campaign is off to a slower Messier start than hoped. Overworked and underfunded. State public health departments have had to patch together plans for administering vaccines, resulting in long lines and confusion. Meanwhile,
What airlines, other industries got in $900B relief bill
"Is help for the airline industry in the pandemic release build again hasn't been signed yet by the president but is out there. Our next guest points this out, taxpayers are putting up almost $500,000 for each laid off airline worker to have three months of employment while cooks and waiters get nothing. In other words, airlines air outranking restaurants in relief money. Jonah Sarah Bloomberg opinion columnist joins us Now Joe did thought, go into this. Or was it a simple matter of the airline lobby being more powerful than the restaurant lobby? Well, they're barely is a restaurant lobby. Let's start there. Whereas airlines have been, um Taft up. You might want to say for many decades because airlines have had dealings with the federal government from that many decades between the FAA and, um You know, various various airline regulations and so on and so forth. So so you know you start there. I mean, restaurants are just is just defused. Organization. They're not large companies and even you know, restaurant chains. I mean, putting McDonald's aside, you know, in a city like New York, you know Danny Meyer. It was probably the best known restaurant tour in the city. You know, he has maybe 20 restaurants. And that just doesn't give them the clout that the airline industry has, even though they employ more people. And even though their people are really, really hurting, So, so this is a searing column by you kind of comparing and contrasting the airline industry with the restaurant business. So the restaurant's obviously it is a you know it, Z. It's a diffuse industry. Lots of independent operators historically has had not been a push to kind of organize better this industry that it's so important to many people's daily lives. Where there is a restaurant lobby of sorts, the National Restaurant Association, but it doesn't seem to have a lot of clout for whatever reason, um after the pandemic. After the first round of stimulus, the P P p program, there are a bunch of independent restaurant towards tried to start an organization called the Independent Restaurant Coalition. And they had a lot of success. They got they have they have a bill that would cost $120 billion, which is a lot of money, And the idea is that instead of trying to do it, like the P P p You know, the restaurant industry would get money based on last year's revenues, pre pre pandemic revenues. And believe it or not. The bill passed the house in October. Actually, by quite a quite a large margin, it had more than 50. Sponsors in the Senate, bipartisan But, you know The Senate is run by one guy, and his name is Mitch McConnell, and he was more interested in that three martini martini lunch tax break with he claims will help restaurants. But no one in the restaurant industry seems to think it'll make much difference, at least not in the short term. I mean, at the very least of people start flying again, they will need to go out restaurants at their destination. But it's really a long time before people really start flying in numbers again, Joe, particularly since you know the vaccines are into out there yet so You know what is the thinking behind this? It was thinking there's there's two things. There's two things going on here. Um, uh, The first is that airlines Um You know they will be bringing people back to work. It's easier to give money to a large company that could do one thing that can bring 15,000 people back to work thing. Bring 20,000 people back to work. It's easier, whereas you know, giving money to restaurants is that is a kind of a messier proposition because they're all so many of them and they're so small and it will be. You know, there's that, But the thing you have to remember about restaurants, it's not just a place to eat. Every major city in the United States. Restaurants are at the core. Of their vibrancy and their downtown area. And you know, if you're gonna build a new suburban area, it's going to be built in large part around restaurants. They player hugely important role. In the life of cities. And so ignoring restaurant is really a damn damaging America's cities, and that's what breaks my heart about this more than anything else. So, Joe. I mean, what's the guess? The fate of the U. S restaurant, if you will. I mean, you know these, I'm gonna call them individually owned Mama Pop if you will, but you know that the non chain owned Restaurants. The numbers were seeing and not just New York City, but a kind of across the country are staggering In terms of Harmony or likely have gone out of business are likely to go out of business. How bad is it? Gonna get right? 110,000 are estimated to have gone out of business in the U. S. That's a lot you walked. I mean, and look, I'm a New Yorker. So I walked down the streets in New York City, and you just see them closed up everywhere. Um, you know, some of them will survive. You know, there certainly were. There are restaurants. It'll survive. There's no question about that. Some of them have learned to shift to take out. Even even if the very high end I get I get notices from Daniel Balu, who is one of the great chefs in America. You know, get get our Christmas dinner for $75. We'll drop it off at your house. That kind of thing. So the you know, some restaurant restaurants will survive. But I think what you're gonna see Is that when the pandemic ends, and people can start going to restaurants again, um you'll see a lot fewer restaurants and it will take. I think a generation for restaurants to build up to where they were. This because they'll be so little capital left in the industry. Right? And and you know, as we've been saying all week if you've seen your restaurant closed down if you've had to lay off stuff If you've worked for years to build up a successful restaurant, do you really have the fortitude? Never mind the capital. Actually startle that whole process again. So, Joe, I was listening to Carl Drega Donna speaking with the guys a little earlier on today, and he was talking about his better stake a scattergun approach than a rifle approach. And I'm paraphrasing. But in a sense, this is a rifle approach. Right? As you said, you could re employ a lot of people. If you target just even one airline, where is targeting restaurants is more scattered on. It's definitely a lot more difficult to put together. Absolutely that 100% And I think that the P p p p p experience. Excuse me. The P T P experience has not Been all that satisfactory for Congress. I mean, so many so many, uh, cos got left left out. Somebody felt like you know, larger companies got money that didn't really need it and so on and so forth. So it's really hard to put together a program that would work. I mean, I do think that the program the restaurant industry put together would have worked if had if it had been tried, But of course, we'll never know because it didn't get tried.
"messier" Discussed on Something You Should Know
"The container is only as big as it is. Whether that container is a red bucket or a cabinet in my kitchen or a drawer or a closet or whatever that takes that pressure off of me to decide if it has value and instead say is it container worthy okay so so i understand the idea of in one out. If a new thing comes in the house something old has to go out so you maintain the same level of stuff in your house. But that requires a lot of vigilance. I mean every time something new comes in. I've got to figure out what's going to go out. I don't think i have that much interest in this. I don't either. this is not my natural bent. Know this is not a oh let me see. What can i get rid of today. And that's fine as long as i. Am you know the five minute. Pickup is an amazing thing. Because what would happen for me. Is i would put things where they go. I would find. This is the space for him. This is the designated place. And then i would use them and i would leave him out my house would get messier and so a five minute. Pickup is just putting things back where they go and that even if it's not an everyday habit if it's more often than as i'm doing that i'm just embracing and seeing the spaces that i have and it does become a little more natural to declutter but at the same time even if it doesn't want every single time you declutter and every single time you do a one and one out as it comes into your house then the next time that you re declutter. Because that's life you're never done Then as you re declutter and go back to that space it's going to be so much easier because of the work you've done in the past So there's really no there's no failure because that's the way i always thought i always thought. Well i d cluttered this before. It went back to being disaster. What's the point of trying again. So i suspect that one of the ways to get good at this or to get into. This is to do the easy stuff first. So where's the low hanging fruit. I mean i know you talk about if you don't bake why don't you get rid of all the baking stuff in your kitchen that you never ever ever use. Yes i mean as you go through things and as you gain decluttering experience and as you're looking at spaces as containers not looking at individual items in questioning their worst or their value. Then you start to view your space and go wait a minute. I would much rather have a place for this stuff. I do use and get rid of this stuff. That i don't but the thing that i do recommend as far as when you're starting is to follow the visibility role for some reason. Most people tend when they get that. It's to declutter to go declutter the linen closet or the top shelf of the master bedroom closet or some space. That's been driving them crazy in the back of their mind. You know for a long time. And they're like well. I'm going to really make an impact but the problem with that. Is you work on that space. And then you've been working maybe all day long. The doorbell rings and you're still embarrassed. Open the front door and even though you might tell somebody oh i've been decluttering all day. I mean you're gonna see them around your house and go really sure you know like they would never believe that so to start instead of starting with the baking supplies i mean. Go ahead and get rid of him if you already know that. That's what you want to get rid of but start in your most visible spaces of your home because what that'll do is you'll see that progress and then it's going to increase your decluttering energy as opposed to sucking it away when you spend all that time working and steal still feel frustrated over your home. That's a great idea because well if you're like me i feel better being around spaces that have been decluttered. So if you're decluttering spaces you can't see you. Don't get that effect. So but where else. Where's where else it do. You get the most bang for your buck. Well start with your living areas. You know the kitchen is for a lot of people living area but go ahead and start with the place that people are going to see when they walk in the front door. And i sometimes will have people say but but i don't walk in the front door and i'm like that's fine except that the feeling of total failure that makes you want to quit is when somebody rings the doorbell and you're embarrassed. Open the front door you know so start with the front door. It's probably not the most used place in your home anyway. So you're gonna make progress a little bit faster and then go on to those living areas so that you really are living sitting with your family being together with people in these spaces where you just consistently go. Wow this space is so much easier to live in. It's easier to maintain it's easier to enjoy each other's company and that will it really will start to build that decluttering momentum and then right after that is kitchens because kitchens are extremely functional as well. They're one of the most used rooms in your house or at least most people want them to be the most used room. How many kitchens have appliances that..
What Does A Biden Presidency Mean To US Foreign Relations?
"Might Joe Biden's presidency mean for US foreign policy with us, now three of NPR's international correspondents in some of the regions that are most consequential to the United States? NPR's Emily Fang is in Beijing. Lucien Kim is in Moscow and Jane Arraf is in Erbil, Iraq. Hello to you all. Good morning. Morning. So, Emily, let's start with you. The relationship between the U. S and China right now is quite tense. How was news of of President Elect Biden's win received in Beijing. Well, there wasn't much news because two days after the election results were called noticeably Absent is any official reaction from China's leader, She Jingping, He's not put up a message. By contrast in 2016. She congratulated Trump hours after the race was called this year. Foreign Ministry has dodged every question we've had for comment on their views about the election, and the silence is not because China prefers bite in over Trump, Trump of replied, And it's more out of an over abundance of caution because Trump has not officially conceded. Seven China's view It does not want to take a side if you will, and until someone is definitively inaugurated, and Trump still has more than two months left in office so he could put significant pressure on China. Still, if he's provoked Okay, So China's taking a wait and see approach Lucy and there was all of this concern about Russian potential Russian interference in this election. We didn't see much of that. How is Moscow, reacting to the prospect of a Biden presidency? Well, it's interesting. It's very similar to the situation in Beijing here. The absence of any congratulations from President Vladimir Putin has been noticeable today. His spokesman told reporters that Putin will wait for official results because Trump has not conceded and wants to dispute the the count in the courts. One prominent Russian who did congratulate Biden, his opposition leader, Alexei Navalny. He's recovering from a poisoning that he blames on the Kremlin. The day after the U. S election. Navalny went on social media to say that the suspense about who Would eventually when the race was evidence that America's elections are real, but officially on state TV. The main message is that this election was marred by irregularities and fraud. So in a sense, not that different from Russian elections and the messier the transition of power is in the US, the better it is for the Kremlin because the US stops looking like a model democracy. Well, that's interesting. Jane, China and Russia both taking a wait and see approach did Iraqi leadership say anything this weekend? They did. They generally welcomed Biden's election. And, you know, there's not expected to be really a dramatic or immediate change in policy. One of the big issues here is withdrawal of US troops and Biden like Trump is in favor of those, But I gotta be honest Officials here are breathing a sigh of relief. You know, one of them put it. Will no longer be one tweet away from learning of major foreign policy decisions. And then there's the fact that Biden you Noah's head of a CZ, a member of the leading member, ranking member of the Of Senate Foreign Relations Committee and then the point man on Iraq. For then President Obama knows the leaders here and he knows them well, and that will make a difference. I spoke to one senior Iraqi official who said he's dealt with them in years for years. Sorry, and and the thing that stands out is Biden's essential decency, he says. Decency. OK, Lucien Joe Biden known for his decency, Yes, but unlike President Trump, he does not seem primed to like Vladimir Putin or to soft pedal things with Russia. How might his election change the U. S Russia relationship? All right. There is no expectation here at all that Biden will be easier on Russia. I spoke to one of Russia's leading foreign policy experts fielder Lukianoff about what he expects from a Biden presidency. They don't think that many people at Moscow believed that the U. S will be able to be back to the old good days of liberal order as it was in 90 Sorento Seldon's, But the rhetoric will be ah, muchmore like Obama or even Clinton spirit. So in other words, the expectation in Moscow is that Biden will bring up human rights and democracy and also take a greater interest in what happens in the former Soviet Union. There is no love for Biden in Moscow. He met with Putin when he was vice president and has been very critical of the Kremlin. But those negative feelings aside, there is also a certain trump fatigue in Moscow. There were really high hopes for years ago and today U. S. Russian relations are at their lowest point since the Cold War. So there is some hope in Moscow that Biden will be more predictable and be able to start a sober professional dialogue on pressing bilateral issues of the first one that comes to mind his arms control. More predictable. Emily might also be interesting or helpful to China, right because it's been four sort of madcap years of trade wars and overnight tweets. And yet Beijing's position in the world is different now than it was when President Trump took office, isn't it? Yes, it's gone from what was then A developing regional power, too, in the U. S has eyes and this is accurate. A global competitors and that growing more negative view has led the US over the last four years to sanction Chinese officials, major Chinese companies and to limit the number of Of Chinese people who study and work in the US, But within China, you have the inverse of this negativity. China's had this surgeon self confidence since 2016. It's controlled a corona virus pandemic. It's produced some truly global companies, and that gives Beijing a sense that this is China's time to shine. And right now we're at this hugely uncertain moment in the relationship trumps refusal to conceive means that there's even warn certainty because Beijing cannot decide what its next move is going to be right now. Okay. If China is under the impression that it is, it's time to shine economically makes a lot of sense. Does a president Biden change that in any way? He could. Biden is expected to continue to push China and human rights issues such as Hong Kong civil rights Xinjiang, where hundreds of thousands of people have been detained. Remember he called cheating Ping a thug during one of the last presidential debates. But many in trying to hope us under Biden will temper the relationship and cooperate on things like trade and climate change. But Biden could also have a much more multilateral approach and that could actually put pressure on China. And Jane. Lastly, I want to reach back into history. Joe Biden once suggested that Iraq would be better off his three separate autonomous regions Kurdish, Sunni and Shiite. How was that idea held up? Yeah, so he was suggesting autonomous regions, but still with the central government and here in the Kurdistan region of Iraq, they very much welcome that support for increase power to the regions, but in other places it was seen as fuelling Iraq's sectarian divide. And there's still a bit of concern about that idea. But a lot of it has moved on to concern about Iran. And on that one he's seen as not being quite a cz obsessed with isolating Iran. So even some militia leaders here have welcomed his election. Okay. NPR's Jane Arraf in Erbil, Iraq, Emily faIIing in Beijing and Lucien Kim in Moscow. Thanks, everyone.
World leaders congratulate Biden on projected win, but some await “official results”
"Joe Biden's presidency mean for us foreign policy with us, now three of NPR's international correspondents in some of the the regions regions that that are are most most consequential consequential to to the the United United States? States? NPR's NPR's Emily Emily Fang Fang is is in in Beijing. Beijing. Lucien Lucien Kim Kim is is in in Moscow Moscow and and Jane Jane Arraf Arraf is is in in Erbil, Erbil, Iraq. Iraq. Hello Hello to to you you all. Good morning. Morning. So, Emily, let's start with you. The relationship between the U. S and China right now is quite tense. How was news of of President Elect Biden's win received in Beijing. Well, there wasn't much news because two days after the election results were called noticeably Absent is any official reaction from China's leader? She Jingping, he's non put up a message. By contrast in 2016. She congratulated Trump hours after the race was called this year. The Foreign Ministry has dodged every question we've had for comment on their views about the election, and the silence is not because China prefers bite in over Trump, Trump of replied, And it's more out of an over abundance of caution because Trump has not officially conceded. Seven China's view It does not want to take a side if you will, and until someone is definitively inaugurated, and Trump still has more than two months left in office so he could put significant pressure on China. Still, if he's provoked Okay, So China's taking a wait and see approach Lucy and there was all of this concern about Russian potential Russian interference in this election. We didn't see much of that. How is Moscow, reacting to the prospect of a Biden presidency? We'll enter. It's interesting. It's very similar to the situation in Beijing here. The absence of any congratulations from President Vladimir Putin has been noticeable today. His spokesman told reporters that Putin will wait for official results because Trump has not conceded and wants to dispute the account in the courts. One prominent Russian who did congratulate Biden, his opposition leader, Alexei Navalny. He's recovering from a poisoning that he blames on the Kremlin. The day after the U. S election. Navalny went on social media to say that the suspense about who Would eventually when the race was evidence that America's elections are riel, but officially on state TV. The main message is that this election was marred by irregularities and fraud. So in a sense, not that different from Russian elections and the messier the transition of power is in the US, the better it is for the Kremlin because the US stops looking like a model democracy. Well, that's interesting. Jane, China and Russia both taking a wait and see approach did Iraqi leadership say anything this weekend? They did. They generally welcomed Biden's election. And, you know, there's not expected to be really a dramatic or immediate change in policy. One of the big issues here is withdrawal of US troops and Biden like Trump is in favor of those, But I gotta be honest Officials here are breathing a sigh of relief. You know, one of them put it. Will no longer be one tweet away from learning of major foreign policy decisions. And then there's the fact that Biden you Noah's head of a CZ, a member of the leading member, ranking member of the Of Senate Foreign Relations Committee and then the point man on Iraq. For then President Obama knows the leaders here and he knows them well, and that will make a difference. I spoke to one senior Iraqi official who said he's dealt with them in years for years story and and the thing that stands out is Biden's essential decency, he says. Decency. OK, Lucien Joe Biden known for his decency, Yes, but unlike President Trump, he does not seem primed to like Vladimir Putin or to soft pedal things with Russia. How might his election change the U. S Russia relationship? All right. There is no expectation here at all that Biden will be easier on Russia. I spoke to one of Russia's leading foreign policy experts fielder Lukianoff about what he expects from a Biden presidency. I don't think that many people at Moscow believed that the U. S will be able to be back to the old good days of liberals order as it was in 90 Sorento Seldon's, But the rhetoric will be ah, muchmore like Obama, or even Clinton period. So in other words, the expectation in Moscow is that Biden will bring up human rights and democracy and also take a greater interest in what happens in the former Soviet Union. There is no love for Biden in Moscow. He met with Putin when he was vice president and has been very critical of the Kremlin. But those negative feelings aside, there is also a certain trump fatigue in Moscow. There were really high hopes for years ago and today U. S. Russian relations are at their lowest point since the Cold War. So there is some hope in Moscow that Biden will be more predictable and be able to start a sober professional dialogue on pressing bilateral issues of the first one that comes to mind his arms control. More predictable. Emily might also be interesting or helpful to China, right because it's been four sort of madcap years of trade wars and overnight tweets. And yet Beijing's position in the world is different now than it was when President Trump took office, isn't it? Yes, it's gone from what was then A developing regional power, too, in the U. S has eyes and this is accurate. A global competitors and that growing more negative view has led the US over the last four years to sanction Chinese officials, major Chinese companies and to limit the number of Of Chinese people who study and work in the US, But within China, you have the inverse of this negativity. China's had this surgeon self confidence since 2016. It's controlled a corona virus pandemic. It's produced some truly global companies, and that gives Beijing a sense that this is China's time to shine. And right now we're at this hugely uncertain moment. And the relationship trumps refusal to conceive means that there's even more uncertainty because Beijing cannot decide what its next move is going to be right now. Okay. If China is under the impression that it is, it's time to shine economically, makes a lot of sense. Just a president Biden change that in any way. He could. Biden is expected to continue to push China and human rights issues such as Hong Kong civil rights Xinjiang, where hundreds of thousands of people have been detained. Remember he called cheating Ping a thug during one of the last presidential debates. But many in China hope us under Biden will temper the relationship and cooperate on things like trade and climate change. But Biden could also have a much more multilateral approach and that could actually put pressure on China. Jane. Lastly, I want to reach back into history. Joe Biden once suggested that Iraq would be better off his three separate autonomous regions Kurdish, Sunni and Shiite. How was that idea held up? Yeah, so he was suggesting autonomous regions, but still with the central government and here in the Kurdistan region of Iraq, they very much welcome that support for increase power to the regions, but in other places it was seen as fuelling Iraq's sectarian divide. And there's still a bit of concern about that idea. But a lot of it has moved on to concern about Iran. And on that one he's seen as not being quite as obsessed with isolating Iran. So even some militia leaders here have welcomed his election. Okay, NPR's Jane Arraf In Erbil, Iraq, Emily faIIing in Beijing and Lucien Kim in Moscow. Thanks, everyone. Well, thank you.
The First American To Play For Barcelona
"Two Weekends Ago Nineteen Year Old Sergio Desk became the first American to play for one of the world's biggest soccer clubs. The new. Number, two for Barcelona Savino desk off the bench here today. Today the FX Palton Oreo on desks rapid rise and why the young star has chosen to play for the US instead of his birth country of Holland. showed him their vision for what he was going to be in the future they believed in him and he hadn't seen anything from Holland until he broke into the first team that I act. So I think there is a sign of Sergio recognizing wind people believe in him in when people give him the support to be successful. From in the athletic, I'm under skelter and I'm Davidson, it's Friday October sixteen, and this is the lead. It felt like something great was happening. There is something about the emotion. For. The past because. that. This isn't a story. View the. It stays with you. So. Paul how would you describe the way that Sergio plays? Well, I would say he's definitely more of the modern fullback that we see in today's game. Is An attacking player first and foremost. DSP little slow to react to. That very quick very good one on one defender, but his strongest traits are pushing forward. With the ball crossings desk. Space he's not afraid to be creative. He's not afraid to try different things. Back so Yeah he he plays with the mindset of attacking player who is looking to create goals. And get a sense of the hype around surging your desk. How good is this dude expected to be? Yeah I mean I think there are a lot of hopes for what he can be you know Barcelona spending twenty, five, million euros to sign him that puts a a heavy amount of expectation on Sergio Desk I mean this is not a taking a flyer on a guy paying five million euros form and hoping he works out and develops know when that kind of money is being spent. The expectation is that you come in and you contribute right away. And in the case of Sergio that means producing assists, it means holding your own in the Champions League and I think there is a lot of belief that he can be that type of player I mean I think there's going to be a huge spotlight on that club this year because it could potentially be Messier's final season at Barcelona, and so the hope that club is that they can win Champions League maybe do something to convince messy to stay and that's what you're walking into. If you're Sergio Desk and Paul, what's your sense of Sergio personality what's he like he comes across as kind of a quiet kid? I believed in myself. So that's like the reason I get focused and I played really well and this you know he. Is Very Smart. He certainly is not afraid to Kinda give his analysis of his teams and where he fits in the and the last two minutes I just made a unbelievable mistake and that's What I learned from it. But. What's interesting is when you talk to other people about him, what's he like kind of away from the media spotlight were you probably get a better idea of his personality? It seems like he is. I guess the best way to put as maybe like an interesting dude, like he you know he kind of goes to the beat of his own drum. He's got a kind of a bright personality and we're starting to see little bits of that I think as he grows comfortable with the spotlight that's on him. Now, we'll you've been digging into Sergio rise to stardom including speaking with some of his former youth coaches in the Netherlands. Tell us a little about the path he's followed. Well, he was signed with his academy from a local club. At. Quite a young age and I think what's interesting is At I xe the expectation when you go to a club like that and you go into an academy like that is immediately, how is he gonNA fit in as a professional and I think there were some concerns about whether or not Sergio had the discipline to succeed. As a professional you saw that topic come up with a number of his youth coaches at I you. Was He going to take things seriously enough. Well, what were some of the things that he was doing that we're raising red flags among some of these youth coaches? Well, they vocalise some of them and they didn't they hinted at others. There's little things like Sergio not showing up to school. Where was his focus and and having to sit down and have talks about professionalism and you can interpret it however many ways you want is showing up the training on time is he going and doing all the individual work that needs to be done mainly they wanted him to understand that you know. Yes, football is fun. Yes. There is the enjoyment part of it right but. If, you're going to make it at a club like I asked at a certain point you have to start treating it like a job as well, and for as much as some coaches were giving him those red flags there were also coaches who were saying, no, this kid has it. He has something and what you what you need to interpret is, yes, his personality might be. A little different. He might not fit perfectly in the box that you want, but he wants to be successful. He wants to get better and those are the coaches that recognize that in him and worked to kind of harness it, and once that happened once there was a little bit of belief behind Sergio Dust that self-motivation has has led him to a really quick sent from. The U Twenty World Cup into access first team, and then a year later into the senior national team for the US and onto Barcelona. So break this down for us. Paul Sergio grew up in the Netherlands. But he's been playing with US national teams. How exactly has that worked? So Sergio comes from a military US military family his father was a soldier who was stationed overseas. As Mother's Dutch and so he was born in Holland and and was raised there and even the Dutch national team he never got an invite to the youth national teams in Holland every time before the less round, the real real influence I didn't make you know and. Then, I was like. And he was discovered by the US soccer on accident, a US youth national team coach Dave Vandenberg, a former player, and he reached out to his club actually about another player. Another American at I ax to check in and he said as as you tend to do in scouting or journalism. Hey are there any other players I should be aware of and to coach that the actually we have another player here with American passport is name, Mr Gino, desk, and then My Dad told me like you also have American best and people saying to my dad so he can also play for the American. So when they brought through genius destined to camp, they were watching very closely not just his soccer ability but how would he mesh with the group and they said it took just one training session to see the quality that Sergio desk had. But what they were really happy with was how quickly he bonded with the Group of players and they felt like he really gained a lot from the group in connecting to his American. Identity I felt home over there a little bit because they I mean in the national team because they helped me all the time and they give me chances. This. That's the main thing I guess I would say also I think it's worth noting that the connection between us soccer at the time general manager now technical director Ernie Stewart and Sergio Desks Ernie Stewart likes or. Has a father who is in the military a Dutch mother grew up in Holland and when the US was trying to finalize Gino desks international recruitment, Ernie Stewart and Gregg Berhalter flew to Holland sat with Sergio and his father had a meal watched her play Champions League and spoke about their vision and I think it probably helped Sergio desk to see somebody who grew up very similar to him very similar background who played in multiple world cups more than one hundred caps for the US national team and Through seeing Ernie Stewart's accomplishments saw what he could accomplish with the US i. felt like my feelings were telling me like. My heart told me US wants the best option for you. It's not like. That I don't like the Netherlands. But yeah. In life you have to make decisions on. It's easy. You know. Also, we should note that that loyalty that, US, national team showed him, and that belief in the positive reinforcement he was getting with the US and being to Seventeen World Cup team u twenty. World Cup team led him to choose the United States senior national team overhaul, and which was recruiting and Windsor Genius talked about that decision. He talked about the fact that he had been a part of the teams plan for a long time. They had showed him their vision for what he was going to be in the future they believed in him and he hadn't seen anything from Holland until he broke into the first team and. So I think. There is again a sign of Sergio recognizing when people believe in him and when people give him the support to be successful.
Messi Wants Out
"For more reaction than to the breaking news that Messier's pass alone that he wants to leave the clubs, Robson Frank Leboeuf and Craig Burley with me Craig. I. Know you'll say one's not really that much were surprised, but it is a surprise. no, I don't think so. Don't I just think. Boss Alana, how become too blase and their approach to spending to recruitment. To structure. I think the always just fell while you know rule butter the all off from best dot and the next thing and he always saints contract. And he always stays and I think he's both. We talked about extreme after the game that I you know we would not be surprised if he wanted to go to pastures neurons and try some fresh I think this is great. I don't know. But the boys I think this is great. Here we have a guy who has got what I don't know top level maybe another three years depending on injury four producing the kind of. Is because of his age, and here we have them finally say in right who wants to showcase my challenge that is not bus alone ups I. Think this is brilliant unless it a. Huge Huge checkup, the backside full custody, and cloak. It really is thirty three years of eighty is frank. He still got it most definitely. The big question now that everyone is going to be asking is way is he going to go let's focus? Shall we on Manchester City because of the relationship with radio because one of the few teams you imagine who could afford his wages with this work feeding? I I think so yeah, I think as you said, you know he knows July and Gordon knows him. So I think he knows how to handle the the real man and and make the dressing work for works for him and and the Club of course, the financier for that and and I'm not very worried because we know. Marketing Wise Mush indicting wise that the money comes back very easily when you have big stars in those kind of players will create problems in the average for years where too much paid will create problems to a club. So I'm not worried about that. I think it's a very good option to see missy we city in the Premier League but I think he's the City's not the only going to the. We're going to go to to to an offer and make sure they have the the the former baby bustling player in. In the team I think if he's not a surprise is definitely amendment and I'm with Craig with that, I want to see that coming. Of course, bustling funds will be disappointed but I think it's in the world of football. It's a relevent like when we saw Renaldo leaving. Madrid to. Even. Bigger Zing missy living wearing another shirt is going to be huge. Of course, is the only club that he's ever known. Robert. Tactically say to get him how does that work? Well, I think it will. We've PEP Guardiola makes to build the team around when you're going to play like you have to build a team around him and that's what he'll do you probably Plame maybe off the front, you can play a slightly wider area and other players making runs beyond him that midfield would have to be better defensively. Because, he will be asked to track back and do a defensive side of the game. So I think he works at. Man. City you when you look at other clubs, I'm not sure it work other clubs. It certainly work inter because he'd have to out Front Antonio cone site would ask to be chasing around and closing the bow down that were I think the set up with Man City. Searching perfectly, he knows the manager the manager knows how to get the best out of him and I think he would actually improve play over the next two years because he's become a little bit stale as at Barcelona it'd be great. Everybody's the same placement city
Big tech CEOs testify before Congress
"So, this hearing just going to say it, it was six hours of chaos. So. So many things like individual moments of pure chaos happened this hearing. But because every member of Congress was only given five minutes to ask the questions in and they moved on, no one could process the moments of cash. So here are some things that happened during this hearing. Jeff. bezos just started eating nuts on his call. That was just a thing that you started snacking for the first ninety minutes. It appears that basis had tech issues was operating in some kind of delay. So we didn't hear from him. They just answer any questions and they'd take a ten minute break Jeff. bezos could fix his computer. Amazing. Jim Jordan, who McKenna pointed out. On the show last week is always sort of chaos element. Try to talk over several members of Congress got yelled to put his mass back on floated. Just elaborate conspiracy theories. was when I say was chaos I. Don't know if there's any other way to describe it. I. Think that led a lot of people to think the hearing itself didn't accomplish its goals, but I think in many ways it did. But Kennedy you WanNa Kinda go through what the committee was trying to accomplish the themes they were pointed at in. How hearing played out, right. So okay. First off. Harkening back to last week I mentioned Jim. Jordan's mountain dew obsession. Definitely drink a handful those throughout the hearing I took notes in screen shots. So, I, called it. But regardless of their pores soda choices, there were a lot of lawmakers who definitely did their homework and I think that was really apparent throughout the entire hearing and when I look at. The picture that they tried to paint I think that became really clear in chairman Sicily's opening statements. So this is the guy who liked. And spearheaded the entire investigation from the beginning, and in those opening statements, he pointed out that yeah Apple Amazon Google facebook. There are different in a lot of ways and they exhibit anticompetitive behaviors potentially allegedly and a lot of different ways. But what they tried to pull together and was a story, and it's really hard to tell a story and five minute fragments. But what happened yesterday was Sicily. Ni, and a lot of the Democrats on the Committee wanted to point out that these companies they become bottlenecks for distribution whether that's information or just like APP stores marketplace's they control what gets distributed in how what was really key to the investigation was how? How they survey competitors. If you have so much control dominance over a market or a specific part of the tech industry, you have a lot of insight into your competitors and you can do a lot of dangerous things with that, and then lastly, after that dominance has gained, it's how they abuse it. Right? How they abuse it to make harder for small businesses in competitors and I think that's exactly what Cellini pointed out in the beginning and I think they did a poor job that storytelling throughout the process. But I think that's also our job. Right is to pull that evidence together and tell that story for them in a way that isn't like. Yes, no yelling at CEOS and like stopping them and I think by getting that in the evidentiary record doing all this questioning, I think they really did achieve their goal in the end. Yeah. I mean, I think the thing that happened sort of next to the hearing was that they released a bunch of documents from these one point, three, million documents of clutch. Over the past year, they released pretty targeted selection documents for every company showing some of this stuff, Casey, I wrote a story about. facebook. INSTAGRAM. My I'm going to frame this email or mark Zuckerberg. Literally one sentence, no period. The Andrew says I need to figure out. I'M GONNA buy instagram like I would love to just be in a place were sending that email like super casually like I got this thing to figure out and it's not like am I gonNa buy the model of the car. It's like instagram. I've been thinking of the text messages where so and so says that Mark Zuckerberg's didn't go destroy mode on instagram ever since they got that up. Case she this to Kevin and right that text was. Yes. Well, it was Kevin. System was talking to an investor and Kevin said to the investor. If we don't sell well, mark, go into destroy mode on us and the investor side probably. Of course, stray casual. So there's just a lot of documents and I think one of the functions of hearing was to get those documents into the official congressional record to make the CEO's account for them. That did not seem very successful to me. Is like a takeaway people should have from this hearing, right? No. I think a lot of people that go into these hearings are expecting like these big Gotcha moments and expecting like a lot of news and all this stuff. But it really, it wasn't oversight hearing. You know it wasn't. They didn't come. They came at this like in a report last earlier this week that they came out at as investigators. They didn't come at it to make a big show horse and pony show out of it, and yet I think the CEO's didn't. The record well enough to the extent that they could have. But there was definitely, I was expecting them to do a lot less evasion and I expected a lot less room probation with the documents, but it's just the process of a Congressional hearing. It's. It's hard to do that in a congressional hearing. But if you put those documents out there, you get the CEO's on the record a little bit who does excite this excites the FTC. J, and that's who can take this next and then it's also congress. You know they can't break up a tech company, but they can regulate going forward and it's those three key themes that I pointed out earlier that they could regulate. You know what I mean. They could legislate to forbid companies from surveying competitors and things like that, and that's where this goes. So the format of the hearing, every member and five minute chunks, it seemed very clear that the Democrats had some sort of coordinated evidentiary strategy, they would start and. And they would say, I, want to read this email to you. What did you mean by this email and then Jeff bezos would say something like I have. No idea is on works. I. Was real pattern that developed was basis really not doing or claiming he definitely knows claiming not really no way Wayne is under the thing they did or they would ask sooner Pichai about the very granular add deal google made by an ad product, and soon I, would say I'll get back to you, which is basically all responses. So the Democrats seemed like they were coordinated to move through their documents. The Republicans seem to be doing something else that also seem coordinated intentional, but what was their focus because that seemed clear split my takeaway from Jim Jordan who? We got into earlier, he he was interviewing. As if they were all Jack Dorsey. And as we talked about like, yeah, he invited Jack Dorsey to testify, but he doesn't sit on the antidote subcommittees. Anything. He says, it just doesn't matter. So it sounded to me as if he prepared questions Jack Dorsey and then it was like, oh, he's not coming I'll ask Tim Cook the same questions. Another completely crazy moment that happened just seen by and five minute chunks is that. Represented Sensenbrenner from Wisconsin Dear Sweet Wisconsin. Definitely. Asked Mark Zuckerberg why the Donald Junior was banned from twitter and mark. Zuckerberg was happening on twitter facebook and there was just like a moment of confused silence, and then he tried to move on and that just sort of floated by in the river of chaos to tell you how much chaos there was kneeling. When you started to tell that story, I thought you were going to tell the story about when Jim Jordan asked him cook if the famous one, thousand, nine, hundred, four, Apple Super Bowl, AD was actually about twenty twenty cancel culture, which is another thing that really happened. I think that's out of context. He didn't ask him. He said clearly, this is. That's definitely what Steve Jobs was thinking IBM is canceled culture and Apple's going to break it with hammer and Jeff. Bezos said that social media is a nuance destruction machine and all this crazy stuff from that. It was a wild will that that particular question when Jim Jordan asked, do you support the cancel culture mov, you could see the CEOS like. 'cause they went in order. He asks them all in order. So First Tim Cook just like basically muttered nothing. Here's like I don't. I support speech whatever. The iphone a keyboard like that was his answer. Sooner per child also, just like muttered, right? He's like Google has always supported free expression Zuckerberg like saw the opportunity and took it and the forces of liberalism I rising I, and then basis was like I cannot. I cannot do in like went for it, and that was just totally insane moment. But it also seems like the Republicans were intentional to try to create their own moments where they were yelling at CEOS about bias on platforms is obviously something cover a. At. You were paying a lot of attention that case you're paying a lot of attention to it. Do you think that was effective in creating because you know there's like a parallel conservative Universe Jim? Jordan was on Tucker. Carlson. Last night like was that effective or d think that the CEO's were able to sort of tamp down on interesting the Tucker Carlson pointed out that Google and other companies are all big donors to Jim Jordan another folks. So that is a weird side, but I think it was actually besides the moment where they mixed up twitter with facebook I. Think this was much more effective off. Off Topic yelling about technology than we usually see like are genuinely issues that like they are upset about that, they could point to largely around like cove nineteen misinformation and they could at least like pick those topics and stick to them rather than kind of asking vague questions about like, why is my phone listening to me? Well, they're definitely asked questions about why are my campaign emails getting filtered by G mail? Yes. I should. I should mention that they have really and they have all of these cases where they ask about extremely specific one off incidents that anyone who has used social media knows happens constantly. And, then turn them into a sinister pattern. But I think they managed to come off as sounding more like they understood what they were talking about the unusual. I think that was a real theme of the hearing, Casey. What did you think of this sort of bias side show that occurred? Well, I mean the the idea that conservative voices are being suppressed is foundational to the conservative movement and is behind the rise of conservative talk radio. It was behind the rise of Fox News. Now that social media exists, we have seen it in this new form, but it is sort of being presented as extra, sinister and worthy of. Some sort of legislative intervention what frustrates me about it is that much more than newspapers or or cable news like Mark Zuckerberg Dorsey. These people benefit hugely from having all possible voices on their platform. None of them is incentivized to drive conservatives off their platform. What they are incentivized to do is have rules that make the place safe and welcoming. So that people want to hang out there and so to the extent that there are issues on the platform, they've largely come because these platforms have rules. And you know you would think that a bunch of free marketeers would realize that the alternative to the system that they're so mad about would be creating a new system, but they don't seem at all interested in doing that. So I just sort of dismissed all of them as charlatans I actually thought it was interesting that the opposite track came up, which was the Stop Hey for profit campaign I kind of wasn't expecting that. The representative Raskin I believe asked facebook. Basically, why aren't you kicking more hate speech off. I forget who else asked like look is the point that you're so big. You don't care about advertiser boycotts I. Mean, you know it will here. Here is a fact that the number one complaint that facebook gets from its users, the thing that users. About. FACEBOOK is that it removes too much content and so if you're running the place, you do have to take these complaints seriously in a way. Right? It might not be you know that you shadow band conservative whatever that even means on social network in twenty twenty. But the fact that you're removing content is really upsetting people. So you can't dismiss that idea entirely, but I still don't feel like we're having that intellectually honest conversation about it. So this was definitely I feel like you can connect the you control distribution. We're GONNA show the abuses of power narrative. We got other. Democrats. With the you control distribution. You're banning conservatives right like I. Think what's Sensenbrenner Again, cups and conservatives are consumers to is that people don't realize that like fifty percent of the population in many ways. But facebook has like famous conservatives working its highest levels Kevin. We last week, we're talking about Kevin Roose keeps sharing the list. List of the most engaged content from crowd tangle. It's all conservative content, and that's so problematic for facebook that they're. They're pushing back with other metrics and graphs of their own, making the facts just aren't there, but it doesn't seem to be convincing. Brett Kevin is being asked to recuse himself from facebook case because he's like best friends with facebook I, AP I wrote a column almost two years ago. Now, arguing that conservatives were trying to redefine. Any conservative identified person having any unwanted outcome on a social network, right? So bias is your name was higher than mine in search results. Bias is used suggested that I follow a Democrat and not a Republican right, and if you take action on your policies that apply to everyone against me a conservative that is biased against conservatives, right. So and by the way I have to say this has been hugely successful because we've talked about it. How many minutes now and the longer that these discussions. Discussions. Go on. They just sort of refi people's minds. The idea that there really is a vast conspiracy to silence conservative speech because he's networks are so big millions of conservatives are having experiences like this every day, and now there is an ideology that is basically a religion for them to attach to, which is although Silicon Valley liberals are out to get. Reason I wanted to talk about the conservative side show, which in many ways was a circus is it feels like the notion that we should be punitive to the companies or mad at the company's. Bipartisan, right we were. We were not looking at a hearing where the Democrats were on the attack. Republicans are saying we love. Apple. We're looking at hearing where they were. Everyone was mad. There are a couple of exceptions to that. There were a couple of I think sensenbrenner and a few other folks were like look we want to be clear. Big is not bad. We just WANNA make sure we're not punishing you for your success, but you were like almost entirely, right? Yeah. I. Mean I. think that's it's important to. To capture that mood like Jeff Bezos Mark Zuckerberg, Tim, Cook soon. Darpa, try they usually get to finish whatever sentence they start saying. Right. They're not used to being interrupted. Their thoughts are usually like you know they get to live in complete sentences and people take them seriously here in five in intervals, they were interrupted almost every time they started speaking to be told that they were wrong that they were filibuster at one point Sicily said stop thinking is for the questions. We can just assume they're all good questions. They. Were getting yelled at and they're going yell that about a variety of things that were pretty specific. So you kind of in your kind of structure here. The first one was controlling distribution. What did you hear as a hearing went on the indicated to that? The committee had a case here? I think the apple's APP store is one thing you know charging thirty percent cuts on certain things is just controlling an APP store. It's the same thing with Amazon's marketplace. They can inherently in control what gets placed and what gets sold and you know if they want to play with search results on Amazon, they can do that, and then on facebook and Google, it's not just like products and software that's information. And it could be information when it's like Google. Google. Stealing yelps, texture views right in putting those in its little info boxes in search queries in facebook if facebook is just like an. Mation, distribution platform and. It can decide Algorithm Mickley. Knowingly. What people get to see this bution was very keen to the committee's hearing yesterday and they pointed out different aspects in which you know each company exhibited that kind of behavior. So the one that will you bring up apple? We wrote about this, say there's much emails. Apples document production is just one hundred and thirty pages of unrelated emails and whatever order see it's like scan through it. So there's a lot of little stories in there. There's one about right to repair and apple realizing it needed to repair. By watching PR people operate by reading their emails journalists. Very entertaining. They're like we had a break like here's our strategy. Here's we're GONNA. That's all in there. You can look at it, but there's a lot about the APP store itself and how they're going to use the mechanics of the APP store to control their platform, and it started at the beginning like the first emails in this production from twenty, ten there. From Phil, Schiller Steve Jobs saying, are we GONNA? Let Amazon Sell Books in the kindle store. Store, it felt like I saw an Amazon ad was hard to watch this hard to watch this ad where a person's reading a book on an iphone in the kindle APP in the pick up an android phone keep reading. He's like literally like it was hard to watch like Schiller's at home like pain what a customer is having an experience that good it really just. Heart and so he's like it was hard to watch. You fours Steve Jobs. They're like we gotta shut it down jobs is the bookstore will be the only bookstore on the APP. Store. That's the way it's going to be everyone's gotta used to it. We know that restricting payments will hurt other things, but that's what we're doing and they started there in two thousand ten and they pulled it out, and then that ladders up into everything that we've seen with, hey, ladders up into the analysis group showing up to. Apple, can pay them to say that there's independent study has revealed. Everybody has a thirty percent cut. It has landed up into Tim Cook, forwarding. He gets a letters from developers that are in this direction. It's like apples breaking my heart and he just like Ford's it. Tim, Cook forwards that email to filter credit eighty, just as thoughts like amazing like they are constantly thinking about the APP store as a mechanism of control for the platform in the leverage and other deals. So the other one was apple is this Amazon one which I have very mixed feelings on saying that this is bad or legal I'm curious for all of your thoughts famously. Did, not have the prime video APP on the Apple TV and all these other places apple, Amazon came to a deal. There's an entire presentation in this production like the slide deck of how the deal is going to work. Apple got to be the preferred seller of its own product. So third parties cancel. Apple. Products, Amazon pages, they got. They have a custom by flow. They've custom product pages, all the stuff in return. Amazon got a lower commission on the APP store and gets to Selatan products which no. No like you can rent a movie from the Amazon APP on the Apple TV, no one else gets to it in one world. This is just pure platform collision, right? Apple cut VIP deal for big companies because it wanted something and you could say this is legal in another world. It's like this is how deals work apple something valuable. Amazon s something valuable and they came to a conclusion wherever made more money and quite frankly the consumer experience platform has got better. How do you read that? Casey? That is good and fair analysis of it. I. Think I did read slightly more scandalous. Tones into it in part because apple would never acknowledge that some developers are more important to it than others even though if you assume that that's true, I think maybe one of the things that's frustrating about it is there is no transparency accountability around which developers get sweetheart deals is that once you hit a certain threshold of revenue will cut your price. Why couldn't they extend that deal to everyone right? Or is it just if we withhold something that seems particularly valuable, we can eventually drag you to the table. Table, which is sort of what seems like happened here. I think in all cases, what I'm always looking for is the accountability, right like and some sense of of equitable treatment of developers and I understand the guys are always going to get the best treatment, but it can that be publicly visible. Can it be acknowledged and there'd be routes for others to achieve that same level of success and treatment, and that I'll just seems missing here. Did you buy Tim Co? He said it twice. It was obviously A. Glimmer, of sympathy for all four CEOS. There is a lot of reporting that they had spent months preparing for this hearing like being grilled there, they'd hire outside law firms. They. Practiced they all clearly had soundbites memorized in none of them. Got To say him because it kept getting interrupted. Tim Cook had this one where he is like if we're the gatekeepers, the gates are open wider than ever. We've gone from five hundred. APPS to one point seven, he said like. A whole speech. and. The thing is there's fierce competition for developers. They don't like our store can do for android the windows. For xbox and PS. Four. Which I was like the idea that adobe is going to be like we don't want to be on the IPAD. Here's PS. Four Photoshop is insanity to me. I'm going to build a spreadsheet. APP. For the five. That's how frustrated with Tim Cook. To that ring. True to you I. Mean, there's no, it does not ring true. There is a, there is a duopoly. In the United States when it comes to smartphones, iphones have majority share in the United States and you can't say, well, you know there's there's a rogue fork of android in Malaysia that you could go develop for if you really wanted to and have that come across as a credible argument to Americans. Right it is. Natural for any monopolist to spend most of its time, arguing that it is much smaller and much less consequential as as you think it is and they're essentially always asking you to ignore what is in front of your face, which is that they are the giant. They are in control. What they say goes, and it doesn't matter which small businesses get hurt along the. The. Way I would point out that the contact and we're gonNA talk about earnings eventually. But the context for that is apple had its biggest third quarter ever this month, their revenues went up eleven percent year over year, they're making obviously making billions of dollars in their services revenue, which is a lot of the narrative around the APP stores increasing that services line. Also went up. I think it was thirteen billion. So you're right. They're very big in their earnings the day after the hearing did nothing. To reduce that impression. I want to switch to Amazon a little bit McKenna. You really focused Amazon was basis first time up there. They came at him a lot about marketplace. How did you think that went I think it went pretty good. I. Think. John Paul specifically was just like killer her questions with breakout star. Yeah. She was just like killer and she's the representative for. SEATTLE. So this is where Amazon is right. So she just like killed it and. And I think there were a couple of instances in the documents and in questioning yesterday that really pulled important things out there was like testimony from one bookseller who was like, yeah. We just can't sell a category of books and we don't know why Amazon doesn't let us do that just like testimony like that or even when it comes to like acquisitions, the ring acquisition especially, I wrote about that today through the documents and how. They said, this is for market position. This is a for technology, your talent or anything. We just bought this and that's something that base said again, yesterday he was just very clear. It's like, yeah, we do buy things market position, which is like so insane just here like the richest person in the world. But like, yeah, we're buying market position. It's just what happens. That's another one I have mixed feelings right, and by the way, people should read McKenna story because those documents have just a very funny breakdown like the pros and cons of buying. Buying ring in many of the cons like what if this turns into nest, which if you're just the verge cast listeners like it's just like the Keyword Bingo, but it's fine to say, we're buying market position like this isn't the best product out there, but it's the category of video. doorbells is not huge, right? So to by the the market leader in video doorbells is maybe the most rational use of the money. What is the problem that you think the committee was trying to show an address sense of we're just going to market position. Pointing out, they can just do whatever they want and how casual it is, and there really isn't. It's really funny to read an email like that, and we could buy it or we could just copy it or are. We could just watch. You know that was one of the emails that base from someone. Those are just three options you know and it's like just pick and choose you know. Pointed out like a lot. Just that email itself really pointed out just how easy it is for them. They used a lot of that time history to talk about copycat behaviors and to talk about just like you know buying up competitors and it just seeing that all in one little e mail having to do with the ring was like really i. think it was really kind of I opening and especially like useful for the committee. So Amazon got hit a lot for the data collection side of it of copying competitors. bezos did not seem to have great answers there. Right. So that's the. The thing they got in trouble with this. There is that Wall Street. Journal article from like April where employees were literally like, yeah. We dip into data and we use that to guide our own private label products and everybody was like Whoa and Amazon basins. Yesterday said, well, we do have a policy that bans that but giant pointed out yesterday. It's like, okay. So what's your enforcement look like you can have the policy, but like if you don't enforce it, then it's like meaningless. And then yesterday I. Think Paul was like, can you give me a yes or no answer? Do you dip into data and he's like I can't I can't give you. Yes or no, and we're just like we're looking into it. The story had anonymous sources. So that isn't very helpful to us. You know what I mean. So that was one of the main things and that Wall Street Journal article and I think it's the same kind of examples in the committee's documents. They point out specific examples like car trunk, organizers of all things. It's like weird little products like Amazon's like this is a little hot. Maybe we should do that. So I, I think. I, think they made a good case yesterday. Yesterday on that. Yeah. I mean bezos brought up that Wall Street Journal, Article himself twice, and he was like, well, your policy against it. But I can't guarantee never happened. Then there is a strange just didn't come across clear I. Think I know what the committee was trying to get at their like US aggregate seller data when there's only three sellers and then only to sellers? Yes, I. Think what they're getting at is when you're down to the aggregate data of two companies, you heard effectively looking at individual data. What is the problem? They're like the I get what you're doing. You're just reducing the denominator to get to one, but like it, why is that particular problem? Right? Well, none of these. Dipping into individual seller data and looking at aggregate data. That's not a legal. There is no law. This is all voluntary of Amazon. So they have a voluntary policy where like we can't do individual seller data, but they say nothing against aggregate and aggregate what you're getting at eight. Here you is. Does the same thing if it's just like some goofy little product they. They bring up pop stock. It's all the time before pop tops in a moment. Right? There's only like one pop. So company like you know pop soggy, it was kind of an innovative product. It's like well, if there's only two of them and use the aggregate data, you you you have everything you need to know you know about that product line looking aggregate. If that's what you decide to qualify as do you as you're looking through the other Amazon documents and other stuff. So anything jump out at you is something the committee was trying to prove or get at. The questioning seemed very focused on. Like are you using the state at a copy products? Are you buying things? You shouldn't buy. There's one question which I did not understand why came up about DMC. Take downs on twitch and Jeff as just had this look of panic in his eyes. He's like I don't know man I bought Wedge because my kids want to. Do something like that was like the side show stuff, but the real focus here, it just seemed like it was definitely in the marketplace, right? Amazon, everyone came at Amazon for the marketplace. That's what everybody knows him as like they have all these little sides. They got rain. They got Alexa Alexa was one thing too. That was kind of interesting. It's like. Are you buying things like ring to put Alexa into and dislike expand your like Titan Ism as like an Internet Internet connected home. Thing and make that more closed off and walled gardening. That was one thing. But no, it was just focusing on how much power they have to kind of change. What happens in the marketplace to kind of decide what companies in what products are able to come up on the first page of results. You know that's also something that they dug into Google and in something that one of those like themes that kind of ties everything together. We should say they all spend a lot of time talking about counterfeit goods, and why is it Amazon removed? Fake stuff from the platform and how much is it profiting off of you know selling pick rolexes? Is it surprising? The whole foods didn't show up at all they're. Like that is a really massive thing. Amazon owns that. Is it moving into a huge new product category? I think whole foods is not an online marketplace, which was the title of the hearing, not that that restricted anybody from doing anything except that, one of the things Amazon says is we have lots of competition from offline marketplaces, right? Brought up kroger a lot I mean, this is the case he's point. They all made. It seem like they were beset at any moment. They could be crushed by the likes of stop and Shop Right? Like I think the point though was really on the. Digital. Experience Consumers have and like I, don't know Ho-. Foods fits. Into that narrative, especially, because it is itself not dominant like they bought it because you needed to grow in their. Good at that at my question for you on the Amazon stuff was when you think about, we talk about two thirty a lot right like you and I in particular spent a lot time to thirty, which regulates with the platform can do with content. There's not really an equivalent of two thirty for goods on store. Right like there's some case is out there saying like you're liable for what what happens on your online store page, but Amazon doesn't have that like second order of like Messi nece around it that twitter and facebook to with two thirty, I. Mean, it gets invoked a lot for marketplace's, but it's way messier. Well, I just wanted to like this question at counterfeits question about ranking the store like they are even more free than any twitter is to to sort tweets algorithm. Algorithm clear to modern like it just their store. Do you think that they're like that Algorithm transparency? Your wire things ranked. Did you catch a sense that that's where the regulation is GonNa go. So much of the conversation around Amazon really felt like it was individuals sellers being wronged for reasons of Amazon being unresponsive or stealing. It's data. So I don't know it didn't. It didn't seem like a really big focus of the hearing, but it is a huge deal. Yeah. The, digital marketplace frame of this, which is where we have talked to. Cellini. That's where he's going right like facebook and Google very digital. They have like they don't do physical goods. Really. Apple is the APP store. It's all digital goods. Amazon is the one where it's. Front to a lot of physical things, and that is the only place where I can see this regulation needing to make some sort of like major meaningful distinction in I. Didn't see it in the hearing, but I was curious of you caught a glimmer of it. I'm not positive that they have to make a huge distinction there like depending on what they come up with because. So much of this is about their companies and whatever product they produced. The issue is more or less whether or not they're being surveilled and unfairly by targeted and crushed by that data surveillance. All right. We have gone for forty minutes. We should take a quick break. I said I wasn't going to go by company and it happens. So we should come back and talk with facebook Ango. We'll be right back. This is advertiser content. When I say utopia what comes to mind. Birds Chirping lush natural beauty dialed up and vibrant technicolor. Is it within reach. Your world world. World. explained. You are an essential part of the perfect social body. Every Body Matt Place. Everybody happy now while the peacock original series, brave new world takes place in a scientific futuristic utopia. A concept is nothing new Sir Thomas more. I introduced the theory five hundred years ago. 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Yeah. But you said something to me yesterday was interesting, which is everyone else's problems are forward looking and it feels like facebook's problems are actually in the past break for people explain what you mean. Yeah. So when Congress is looking at any trust with respect to these four companies for three of them, it's It's sort of about the marketplaces that their operating right now with facebook, the question is much more about should we have allowed it to buy serum? Should we have allowed it to buy WHATSAPP and most of the antitrust conversation that was around facebook yesterday was all about that. What did Mark Zuckerberg know about Instagram, and when did he know it? We wrote a story based on some documents that the house released yesterday. In which facebook has clearly identified instagram as a competitor. In at least some ways and wants to go after it and knock it off the table, and so that's kind of where the focuses their facebook and Burke did get a lot of other questions yesterday, but it tended to be much more about content moderation and things that don't have a lot to do with antitrust. So there was weird section where they asked the face. Face Research APP in the novel, Vpn? Any kind of got lost well, explain what happened and I'm curious reactions. Yeah. So facebook has a bunch of nifty tech tools to figure out what's trending which APPs or the kids using, and so that can essentially have an early warning system if it needs to consider acquiring something or more likely in these days, go out clone it. and. So Zuckerberg was asked about the way that the company uses these systems and if they are anti competitive I, think you know traditional antitrust law probably would not say copying an APP feature is anti competitive, but could lobby written in the future about it shirt I. Think the one that caught me was I mean, this is what I'm. McKenna's points from earlier is like one of the themes here is, are you so dominant that you can collect data that's unfair and then use that to crush or killer competitors, and definitely bought the Inaba VPN to do it. That's true. Now, when I've asked executives at facebook about this, what they'll say is they don't get surprised anymore. When you have three point, one billion people using your apps around the world. You know what links they're sharing, you know what they're talking about. And so you're not going to need some kind of specialized tool to know that WHATSAPP is really taking off. Right. So they would argue that, yes, these tools were useful to them, but you know at their scale, they know what's popular now, which doesn't really seem like addresses, the problem is reached. The fact that we're so big that we're all knowing is maybe not the defense that they sometimes presented as so here's what I didn't get. I thought, Zuckerberg I want to the instagram. What's about who's issues, but on the facebook research front, the data front, they him about this APP facebook research, which you were giving to teens. They were deploying with an enterprise certificate that story broke apple revoke the certificate, and all of facebook's internal APPs went dark, and this is a scandal story after story about it, they went on for two days. So I can I, don't recall that APP? Just how he you know, he remembers the day that all facebook's internal APPS went down and people couldn't go to the cafeteria. I would agree I found that answer. Extremely, ed? Persuasive. that. Do you think that was like actually strategic for him to be like, I, don't know and then come back later and correct the record I do remember when that happened I. Mean. I really don't know I mean also you know during a six hour hearing, it's also possible that you just you get flustered or you miss here something or or something because. Yeah. As as you say, I'm sure he remembers the day that apple turned off their internal APPS I mean. Honestly. Seems like an opportunity to talk about apple's market power, and the fact that you know a day of work canceled at facebook because apple got mad. But I think most of the CEO's didn't go into yesterday a wanted to pick fights with each other. It was kind of sad that they didn't. I was Kinda hoping that Tim Cook take a shot at soccer burger. Point that the other two APP platforms I was expecting it. It was there. It was. There was all there. So cellini ended and he ended the whole meeting with closing statement. He said, some of these companies didn't get broken out. They all need to get regulated in the off too much power that some of them I. don't these breaking up apple. What sort of break. Right like. The division get sent into the corner thing about what it's done. Right. Does should spin out the finder team I've always wanted to. A clean is always that they want to. They want the APP store to be separate from the IPHONE. Basically, that's the thing I always hear. Can't break I. Think you can write some strong regulations but not playing you're on store, right. But like Elizabeth Warren's point was it's cleaner if it's two companies, but it's still a gigantic remedy that I don't think there's a lot of like like consumer or public opinion is going to walk into an Apple Cup I think you'll radio at marketplace. It seems very clear that we says some of them she broken up he is talking about facebook. I have a twenty percent conference level. He might be talking with Google and Youtube as well. But if he's going to say some of the need to get broken up like it's facebook, did you hear anything yesterday that supported that conclusion or Saudi stocks I? MEAN HE I don't remember which Republican it was, but he was like the Obama FTC looked at this and they said it was minding love. Obama. Right. Like. Why would we go back in time to relook at I? Mean, there is a belief and I mean. Somebody who thinks there could be a lot of benefit in instagram and WHATSAPP being different companies from facebook. And the reason you ask. So many questions about that acquisition as you're making the case that it never should have been approved in the first place, and so now you need to remedy it. So that was actually like the entire thrust of the argument against facebook yesterday. I think, you could probably make just as good a case that Amazon after spin out aws, but lawmakers chose not to make that case. Yeah. I think that also gets into. Politics of the acquisition of the time. To his credit is like nobody knew instagram would actually be a success like we made it a success. It didn't happen by itself. I, don't know if the lawmakers. By award, these guys said, but I don't know that he actually made that case very persuasively. and. Who knows I mean? That's like anything could have happened. Right? Cram could've stayed independent and rapidly grown and overtaken facebook like that's something that could have happened. It could have kind settled into a middle zone like snapchat or twitter seems more likely to me although I think probably would have been bigger than those two but. You're never going to know I mean it is true that facebook gave Mike and Kevin it instagram enormous resources. A lot of the reasons why Mike and Kevin sold was because running tiny startup that's blowing up is absolutely exhausting Mike. Krieger. was dragging his laptop all around San. Francisco. Because the servers were melting at all times of the day whenever Justin Bieber. Posted like the site stopped working and they really we need help. Finding a person who can quickly fix this? So we don't have to like that is the reason that they were entertaining these offers and wanted to sell it. So that is also thing that happened. Do you think that that same kind of argument or approach can apply to what's up? What's up basically did not come up yesterday and all the focus on Instagram, but that's the other one, right? Yeah, and we know weirdly a lot less about that acquisition I. Think it's because people in America just have so much less love for what's APP generally. That, it's never seemed as important. What happened to WHATSAPP as what happens to instagram even though WHATSAPP, is used, you know way more, it probably has way more engagement even than instagram does so I don't know why that didn't come up as often. We know there was a competitive bidding war for that as well. Goule. Wanted it as well. You know Mark Zuckerberg made them an offer, they can't refuse. Do you think everyday Google's we should've spent more money on what's whatsapp like this could have been solved. Should have, but Google has been placed under an ancient curse that prevents them from ever making the right decision about any social product. So it was doomed never to happen. It's fun looking through the documents and watching them casually say they should buy facebook dot com. Yeah, that. Point. That is how they talk like the window into these executives just casually being like we should just this thing or maybe not, or we should just copied ourselves and kill it before it gets any traction like it's repeated over and over again last facebook question. This one is like harder to parse because I. There's a chance, it's October is just joking around but. But. He's in many of these emails. He's like the thing about startups, as you can always buy them, which I think the committee thinks is a smoking gun, right? Like facebook's entire plan is to buy the competition to get the data from wherever they get it to say, oh, man, this apps popping, we just buy it and kill it before it competes with us. I. Think he actually said at one point. That's a joke. Yes, he did and I believe that you know it was two thousand, twelve, right? He was probably still in his mid twenties. At that point, the company was a lot smaller like people were joking around like there's more loose talk when companies are younger and I do think. It was it was part of that. I think the more interesting question becomes. Let's say facebook is telling the truth about everything. Let's say they thought it was going to be a successful acquisition, but they never knew it was gonna big as it became today and they invested in it and it got super big. Okay. Well, now, it's as big as it is. Should they be allowed to keep? Keep it or should they be forced to spend it out and if you're GONNA force them to spin it out. What's the argument that you'RE GONNA. Make about why one question that I have a lot is clearly the referral they're gonNa make, and it seems like if you don't have some other reason, we've heard hints that there's some other reason, the FTC scrutinize this that will eventually be revealed. But what you're saying is the antitrust standard at the time, the Consumer Hartman stand, which is still our standard. Says, you have to prove prices will go up both products for free. You're screwed. Right? There's nothing to review because you're not gonNA prove prove that free products are gonNA get more expensive. I think it's pretty unfair if you change the standard and you go back in time and say you missed that standard. So I think there has to be something else there. Well, what was the standard by which at and T. was broken up? Right? Like presumably at and T. didn't used to be that big, and then it just got really big and then they broke it up at least. That's the thumbnail understanding I have of that break-up. Well, yeah. But then reformed itself. Right. But because of lax antitrust regulation, right? Like it wasn't a naturally occurring phenomenon that all those APPS got back to the other or was that just sort of like inattention to capitalism It's like in the seventies and eighties. This is Tim moves book the cursive bigness in the seventies and eighties Robert Bork I can't talk about Robert on this podcast. Are we doing this right now. Robert was very influential judge Appellate Judge Federal Appellate? Judge. And basically moved the antitrust law to the consumer harm standard as part of a movement called and economics. A whole thing Robert. Bork. Mostly famous because he was not appointed. He was nominated Supreme Court by Reagan but they leaked video tape rental history, and then he didn't get nominated and that is where the expression getting bork's comes from. This is all true Netflix's still has to abide by videotape data privacy act is a whole. This is all true when facebook and Netflix had some partners, Nansen? Partnership. To. Automatically share your net flicks, watch history to facebook. They're like pending the change of this law which we are working on Robert Bork. He haunts us all. I'm sorry, I can't believe this much. Yeah I. think that's just like the law changed in the in the seventies and eighties, the standard change. The conversation right now is a very much about changing it back months and months ago, pre pandemic, we had an economist from I. Think it was Nyu Thomas Philippon came on the show, and he was like look you have this natural ab test going on in the world where the European Union when it formed was like, how do we get an economy like America's? So, we'll just take their competition policies pretty good, and at the same time we changed consumer harm standard. So everything you're seeing the EU is basically our old competition antitrust standard in. You can see how active they are in everything. Here's a new consumer welfare standard. Whether you believe, this is actually a functional Ab test given. The state of both governments is up for debate, but that was his point I thought. It was spare can say.
Twitch streamers see 'sudden influx' of copyright takedown requests for old clips
"Well now we have the full force power. The distribution engine known as the Internet and stuff is getting really messy again so a whole rash of DMC. A takedown requests were sent out to twitch streamers off of clips in their archives. this is coming directly from the twitch support twitter twitter feed. This do this week. We've had a sudden influx DMC takedown requests for clips with background music from twenty seventeen to twenty, one, thousand, nine, hundred, if unsure, about rights to audio and pass streams, we advisory moving those clips we know many of you have large archives and we're working to make this easier. This is the first time we have received mass DMC clip. CLIP CLAIMS AGAINST CLIPS? We understand this has been stressful for affected. Creators are working on solutions including examining how we can give you more control over your clips. We adhere to the DMCA which requires that we take action on content in streamer accounts upon notice from rights holders as happened this week. Our guidelines for music have not changed, so please reference them here. This is. This is an impossible situation Again saying commentary and critique you'll you go to a youtube video and we're GONNA be talking about this scary movie, and at the beginning of that youtube video they flash while ago section five Oh to fair use blah, blah, blah, commentary increase critique. Claiming Fair use is not an affirmative defense. You can't fair use and then use someone else's intellectual property. Commentary and critique is your reactive defense. If a rights holder decides to take you to court. And then you pay for a lawyer to go before a judge against a multi. Billion Dollar Corporation to defend your right to use their intellectual property. cannot a for a firm that defense before you see a judge, you can only react to a to a claim using that as your legal protection, which I don't know about you, but I don't have the money to hire lawyers to go up against Disney. No like this is not something I can really do now. Many corporations take very soft touch approach, but in this age of creating content for Youtube, and for twitch, and for any other platform out there. It is. Wildly difficult. To work out the legal responsibilities. Youtube doesn't. They, give everything over to the rights holders, and they allow the rights holders to decide. Was this a violation, or was this fair use, or can they use your content and the rights go? We'll sure, but we're GONNA. Take all their monetization. That's not really fair. Use I mean again. If you make a documentary, you don't have to clear clips in a documentary so long as you're holding to actual commentary on the media that you're using the intellectual property that you're using. I take a very conservative. View on fair use like a reaction video to me is not fair use. A movie review, which just spoils the plot is not fair. Use a you. You know what I'm talking. Those movie reviews where it's like a twenty minute video, and all they do is talk about the plot, and that the very end they go well. I thought. This movie was great. You know like if the whole point of your review is to. For your own benefit, supplant someone from going to see that movie and monetize that movie then I don't believe your fair use. I don't believe that's critique, I don't believe that's i. that's barely commentary on a piece of copyrighted intellectual property. So. This is gonNA. Get Messier from my few game streams. Were were the ones okay so i. don't have a ton of games. Strings on twitch. Keep those clips whenever I've done a game stream. It's usually just like. I've got an hour to game and I felt like opening up a chat window, so we can all hang out it. It's almost never like. Anything amazing happens. That's worth me saving but I did. Keep my clips from alien blackout. And all of those both on Youtube and on twitch got removed. Got takedown notices a twentieth century Fox, the Soundtrack to alien is in that game, and if I'm sharing a stream or a part of a stream from that game, that clip is going to have a content ide- flag and I'm GONNA get a takedown requests so you. I'm pulling I pulled those clips. You, you can't see my my alien stream not again. I don't know that you'd want new just playing an android game for an hour. But they're gone. You know so increasingly. That's going to be. I think part of the situation or the problem, the actual live stream on twitch i. don't see where that's necessarily going to be affected and twitches such a platform for that in that moment real time interaction with their community I don't feel that these. These take down. Requests are going to be focused on that activity, but that still a legal grey area where I feel at some point, if these companies are getting more litigious and more aggressive about platform, like twitch that we're going to have to start examining how this stuff is monetize. How'd you stream even in real time? Someone might see this. Person's going to be streaming. This game in this game uses as a soundtrack from this from this musician and that musician might be able to in real time. Say NOPE, you don't have permission to use my music in the stream because you're not talking about my music, you're talking about the. And that's different. And who has an angry angry? Joe Was for one of the Star Wars sequels he had a video. With the. A complaint on it, and you go and watch his reaction. He's playing the full audio of a trailer and that trailer has John Williams music on it and he's not commenting on the music. Well You're playing the music. You are no longer. Safely operating under commentary and critique by playing John Williams score, and not critiquing or commenting on John Williams score. That's that's not fair. Use so rightfully you're. You should be as you DMC a notice. That's that's what's so. Sticky that's what's so difficult about about how this stuff is handled and why we need sweeping reform. Of Copyright Law in the United States, but that's probably not going to happen is probably not going to happen in my lifetime.
Kristin Cavallari accused Jay Cutler of 'marital misconduct' — but what does that mean?
"Let's Hey lady let's talk about Kristin Cavallari and Jay Cutler's divorce because it's gonna get Messier by the second yeah so there was some speculation that he had an affair that apparently is not the case according to TMZ what they're disputing is custody over their three children so Kristin was surprised that Jay Cutler filed for divorce first she didn't know that he was going to do it they knew they were splitting but she didn't know that he was going to take the action actually filing and then there's one thing in his divorce petition that really set her off and that was his claim that he was the at home parents who was the primary caretaker of their kids so she's saying this is shocking because I'm the one who's been the primary care giver and so then that set up the bottles so he's asking for joint custody so then in her response Christine capillary asked for primary physical custody of their kids with J. getting visitation out Tennessee is kind of interesting because you know they live in Nashville so a lot of the divorces that we talk about when it comes to celebrities are in California yeah Hennessey is different from California in that it is a fault state meaning that someone asking for a divorce must show fault on the part of the other spouse full okay and so really matters when miles first and that's why she claimed J. is guilty of marital misconduct so we don't see that kind of talk in California divorces because it's not at fault state so not trying to prove it's just not trying to prove that one person is worse than the other to get out of the marriage I think this must be like a throwback to conservative southern times holding the right so what's the point of that it just creates makes lawyers have to really dig deep into bring up things that might not even be true and then you have things in court filings that like later kids can see you know you were trying to prove that your spouse was worse than you yeah that's awful I'm so can be nice because it's dirty dog you know if that's the case and you want everyone to know it yes No egg you shouldn't do that especially with three chill yeah actually because you're shaming the children or not it's true but that's hard for a lot of people because there's a lot of anger that because along with editing this relationship so they can't and the marriage without showing some kind of misconduct in Tennessee so be careful where you file for divorce I gas yet different in every state
How Do Bed Bugs Work?
"Episode from Erstwhile Host Kristin Sager. Today's is pretty gross. But if you're like me and find insects and vampires fascinating. It's pretty interesting morning brain stuff. I'm Christian Sager. You've just woken up. Something smells musty and sweet when you open your eyes. Your bed has a trail of malted insect shelves rust colored stains and tiny smears of excrement. Just saying this it makes me feel itchy so imagine actually finding these traces of bedbugs in your home. We thought these little vampires were taken care of after we bombed them to hell with E. T. in the nineteen eighties. But they are back in. Dat was outlawed in nineteen seventy two so we can't nuke them from orbit just to be sure anymore so arm yourself with knowledge because here's what bedbugs are where they live and how to get rid of them. The official name for bedbugs is CEIM. X. Lecter Laureus in they are parasites that feed off of their sleeping hosts blood the largest they get is only a quarter of an inch and they're flat so they're easy to miss their Brownish wingless with six shiny legs and their syringe like mouth beak is what they use to pierce your skin and suck your blood now unlike knows for ought to these guys rarely wake their victims while feeding and they can even take three to ten minutes gorge on your blood now. While drinking they actually released their own saliva into your broken skin which can eventually caused an allergic reaction. Luckily they don't spread disease but the bites can swell and it except for thirty percent of people who have no reaction to these bugs at all even still they probably won't drain you dry. It actually would take one hundred thousand bedbugs feeding on you for at least a week to make you anemic now. Let's put one misconception arrest. Though bedbugs aren't a sign of Poor Hygiene Even Immaculate Mansions can get them. It only takes one to ride on in and infect your whole home but the messier the domicile the more places they have to hide. Here's a shortlist of spots that they can conceal themselves. Sofa seems bed. Frame cracks torn wallpaper backpacks? Light switches televisions clocks phones. Rugs baseboards curtains clothing towels or even pillows basically anywhere. That's dark and protected is up for grabs when way to tell you. Got Them is from the coriander like odor that they release when they are alarmed. The worst part is they can live up to a year without eating so even if you move into a totally vacant residents they could still be there waiting so then. How do we kill them? Well like with any vampire. You should hire a professional. They must be exterminated. They're incredibly tenacious. Critters and to successfully eradicate them sometimes takes up to four different treatments. There's dry ICE SPRAYS. Steam vacuuming fumigation and insecticides
CDC prepares for possibility coronavirus becomes a pandemic and businesses, schools need to be closed
"Well the CDC just holding its latest briefing on US cases boxes Evan brown has this live in Lisa there's a new case of coronavirus this week near Redding California though this is not an evacuated person but the patient did it recently traveled to China the centers for disease control and since there is no need to shut down schools for businesses but they are preparing for that possibility when we will need to implement such measures in the U. S. communities he sees doctor Nancy Messier the U. S. sent a state department is also warning Americans against cruise ship travel in all of Asia in light of the situation aboard diamond princess now docked in
Confronting 'madness' A K Benjamin
"Tell me a little bit I I kind of want to hear your journey to writing the book. Like how takes your right. What can spark the idea in the first is place like what did it come from? So I'm I was I've been working for me ten years in a large hospital. A large urban hospital and I got a sabbatical to go to Asia to look at Different approaches to neurological problems. uh-huh And it was it was in Asia The I started to journal I was pretty exhausted from working in the H S and I started off the journaling Because that's what everyone else seemed to be doing All these kids gap years But after a week or so I got really bored of the sound of my own voice and I wanted to Turn this sort of emotional raw material into something The how to reader in mind rather than rather than just I myself am an kind of led to a process of elaboration first of all taking real incidents from my life and giving them a spin and then on sort of adding to that Bits from the imagination and fusing the two together so quite quickly. I became a little confused. Where the line between what really happened to me and what might have happened to me? In if I'd much things to two degrees to the West where where that line was and I'm from that over over over the course of a year year and a half I produced this book and the and the sort of I am yeah and uh almost with each pass with each going over it. I wanted to elaborate it more and make it a bit more juicy. Make the chronology different tune into a thrilla Ella then have a as a As a sort of as a romance and then as a quest and Cetera et cetera gave it different incarnations. Yeah 'cause that's kind of what I like about. The book was kind of remembered how I think about neurology and the science of the body and the kind of like I thought it was very straightforward. You you know I think especially it's going to be somebody who would just be patient you kind of think. Oh you know the the psychologist the doctors. The the the science on the paper knows everything and actually it's kind of this shame. Shame with John Thing like Oh this book and actually you can kind of liked leading us in different directions shows that. It's not just a linear. Yeah I hang I yeah I think I suppose the moment of implosion came for me when I was thinking you know. Maybe it was the thousandth time I was diagnosing. A patient with a A brain disorder. And I there was something about that Particular Day whereby I just the Became suddenly and strangely aware of the expectations that the patient had of me the expectations of of being sober of being experts of being in control of my feelings and then the difference between those expectations. And what might actually be taking place in mine nine or any doctor's mind at that particular time and then the flip side the other side of the mirror is what all of this sort of rehearsed. Propriety let's see and good manners and decorum in the face of this other person suffering the the suffering on that morning of this particular woman who was a little bit younger perhaps than than an average patient of mine who was a little bit messier in some ways who was who didn't recognize the bounded. It was enough to nudge me towards thinking about a her suffering. In a way that I become used to in a way that I'd armored myself against and I'm not particularly when I find it very hard to keep it together the to get to keep my own feelings in check because her suffering was so alive that this woman was going to be maybe in three or four years in her life from this moment. I'm an honor life that was dense dense with family And complication was just going to unravel and there was nothing I could do about it other than to diagnose it So so that this integration on both sides of of me the doctor but also the sense of the patient disintegrating a me not having professional boundaries in that moment in to guard myself against that sense. Do you think that it's there's a kind of mythology around the The history of your profession. And maybe there's always he's been kind of a bit more self reflective than we thought and so there there there there are a few but not many strains of medicine that really consider the presence of the doctor and the interaction of the doctor in the dialogue and how that might affect the way that decisions are made about the patient. Most I often. It's a very taken for granted process with no real subtlety. And I I suppose the starting point for me in the book is we we we. We see We see maybe forty percent of patients whereby we can't help them because we don't understand what's going on on what we tend to do is put those patients agents in in different types of boxes that constrain them and because of the way that we constrain them appears that problems get worse and worse because we have found ways of not listening to them of not allowing them to be heard and that includes the impact that we have on these people on the way that that constrains them and makes them go into their shell because they don't seem to fit particularly well into the frameworks. We have for understanding and I think there are different ways of thinking about ourselves and our presence in the room and how that interacts with the patient that may allow for certain kinds of curiosity and openness to problems that don't immediately mmediately fit into neurological taxonomy or diagnostic categories. Yes I suppose the diagnosis quite fluid like feeling that you might be diagnosed with now. Might have been a different diagnosis ten years ago. And having that kind of those that this is the fluidity the diagnosis. And there's also this sort of fluidity of these this major diagnostic interface interface between. What is neurological? What is psychological psychological tends in a medical setting to get put in some sort of casual Ben for a AH on a and Bonnard difficult patient or time-waster even worse I yet as things become more subtle? Take something like pain. Gene where there's obviously a psychological as well as neurological component than those two are a very fluid the crossover between the two and therefore the way that we interact with the psychic. If the patient is having an outcome on then urology in some subtle ways and crossover between science and literature. I think is something this is really interesting. Have you always been a reader. Have you always GonNa and do you think a lot of people in your profession are well I'll answer the second part. I I did Study of doctor-patient interactions which required a kind of Iq test full junior doctors junior neurologists and of course they do spectacularly accurately well on things like perceptual reasoning verbal reasoning. But when it comes to general knowledge people didn't know who Lewis Carroll was people don't know People can't name Shakespearean comedies. People didn't know who Martin Luther King Junior was so there are definite limits to their intelligence and they'll literate nece. I don't my background. I had a career in something that was more literary before I was doctor. Always always found An important autoparts understanding it literature contribution understand into how I understand. Other people My capacity to empathize is based to some extent on on how I've groner Rita so it's been crucial to my Clinical work and I think I hope it's led to kind of depth to how I and you you know my my sense of anthropology in the subjectivity of the people When it came to writing I think often I found the Literary influences more than clinical theoretical influences Medical theoretical influences can't afford because I was trying to write about about interactions that were a bit juicier a bit more alive a bit more dynamic and complicated and messy than what you normally get in case studies and this this convention in case studies is often to just dry out interactions and make them A little bit more algorithm make a bit of a bit more. He said she said he said he said she said so. He did this and this and then she responded in this way the things that feel quite dead on the page and I think literature allow if you allow only to infuse those sorts of conversations. Little bit then you bring something to life more. And that's what case did he should be. There should be an attempt to bring something to life rather than to just to to to To Map for success story or a failure. Do you think that's something to do with. Potentially the way we educate ourselves were very segmented in the boxes that will the the rates will go down as children. Do you think. And I think you've you've managed to have like a breadth of both the I think I think I'm in my my. My education was certainly very very box. Then it wasn't until I was seventeen and there was one teacher. He was just a bit chaotic embroidery and like to talk about different subjects. That the the idea of the syllabus was cracked open for me and from there on I didn't really low I want I. I studied literature at University but I spent a lot of time. Reading philosophy and reading work in translation and then reading on for apology I and found ways of sort of crow boring that into a syllabus back with into this elaborate requirements similarly when I was doing the clinical training I always tried to find and ways of bringing existing interests that apparently marginal into the central ground. And I think I think as long as you've as long as you meeting the basic requirements of your subjects for good practice then. I think it's helpful to have your because I really liked to identify the The Guardian very very well and they said it's as Yom redefining wakeup call for book when when they described as a wake up call. This is the kind of thing you're kind of going for. Obviously it's an exploration in general. Well if you're waking people up from something what would it be well. I think one thing that I'd be wanting to wake up. People from is is these are these narrow classifications occasions of what it is to be a doctor and how it how to interact of what it is to have a mental health diagnosis and how to understand that and how to treat that A A of what it is in the Culture Lodge which is supposedly there to serve us? The actually drives us to different states of distraction and
CDC says there are currently no new cases of Coronavirus
"City say is updating its response to coronavirus in the U. S. Dr Nancy Messier with the CDC says were now there are no new cases of novel coronavirus in the U. S. total number of confirmed as it is in the United States remained at eleven some test results on suspected cases are still pending also Americans who have been in and near the affected region have still been exposed are being brought back home Dr messing a says while planes of already landed at a northern California based there are four more planes carrying passengers from Wuhan China back to the United States doctors will check their health and quarantine these passengers for two weeks as a
In His Own Home: The Ted Ammon Story
"Robert Theodore Ammon was born in Pittsburgh. Pennsylvania to Steal Executive Bob Ammon and his wife Betty Lee he news. The first son was born two years after his big sister Sandy. His parents called him teddy and in his got older Ted. The Ammon family had that collect nineteen fifties upper middle class lifestyle. Betty Lee stayed home with sandy and Teddy Betty Lee was an intelligent strong woman who encouraged the two children to be competitive and work hard in school. A school turned out to be pretty easy for Ted who is a pretty bright guy but he also had a photographic memory so so steadying was very easy for him when he was in the eighth grade. His father was transferred East Aurora New York to be in charge of a steel plant. Yes so this was the ideal family. This is how I picture your childhood. The almonds had their family dinner every night followed by homework and they'd go to their various sporting events. Let's Boban was Ted's Little League Baseball coach to Ted was also on the swimming team and he grew up to be very athletic reaching an adult height of six six foot. Four so very tall in high school. Of course Ted was on the football team but he was different than a lot of the jokes because he played the piano quite well and he got excellent grates. He did have several girlfriends throughout his teen years being both a jock in academic he was widely Popular Sandy. His sister would say that she and Ted had wonderful childhoods and as adults they did remain. Close here a bit. He did pretty well in high school. uh-huh here he is an athlete and a break. Y- Y yeah. He had a lot going for him but he heard let girlfriends well. I don't know about a Ladda. He he had several. Okay yeah her nose a lot more than several several more than a lot a lot more than several several psych a handful allot what is dozens. Okay that's the way it is in my brain her think you're embellishing a little bit. But that's okay. It's just how I see it. Subjective now now the other half of this equation that will be talking about his generous rand. Her upbringing was far more complicated than Ted's generous his mother. Marie was born to a California farmer and his wife. Maria is acute moody little girl. She did actually join a convent for a year and then decided it wasn't working for her to during World War. Two Marie was a pretty much a party girl. She went out dancing and drinking. Sometimes Nice flighty. Sometimes the slug some family members who were worried that she might be suffering from some mental illness like manic depression but Marie had no desire to seek mental until health. Help Murray's father died just a few years before her mother died of cancer and that left Marie dependent on her older brother. So Marie married a soldier. They had two children but she was negligent. Mother and her children were taken from her and she got divorced she then Mary Clearance Rand. Who is another soldier and this is a few years later? Right submarine clearance had a daughter named Dally but Marie went back to partying while Dolly was still a toddler so oh Dolly was left with family members while Marie would drink and dance and meet new men she met an Italian man named Generoso and had a short lived affair with him mm-hmm in her long beach apartment and after about a week of hooking up Generoso was out of marine life went back to Italy but then she found out that she was pregnant agnete and it wasn't by her husband so Marie wrote to general so and told him about her pregnancy but he never responded so her fourth child who she did give. Her husband's last name was named Jennifer Rosa after her father but Maria didn't take long to return to her partying ways family members didn't call generosity by her given name either because a lot of them knew that this child had been named after this Italian guy they called her gen or Joe she became very close with her older sister. Dolly after Marie began to leave the two home alone to go out and have fun again. So Generoso was four and Allie was seven when they moved to oceanside California with their mother. Their uncle Al was also divorced by then he lived in a ground floor apartment in a three family house that he had purchased. There were tenants on the third floor and Marie and her two daughters were allowed to live on the second floor without paying rent summary even hired in English housekeeper who acted as a baby sitter for her. Two girls in the housekeeper was kind signed to the girls as time went on they really began to prefer the housekeeper to their own mother. But things didn't go well. The childhood just continued to be problematic. Matic Little Generoso was sexually molested as a child by a man who were mother had trusted as a family friend and then the English housekeeper was fired by her. HYUNG-CHOL AL for having men to the House so quite a mess it sure is and it gets messier. Two years after all this Murray felt a lump in her breast within a couple of years she had metastatic breast cancer which had reached her name. Anne Marie died when Generoso is just ten years old so chandelier she and Dolly. Her older sister went to live with her uncle. Al In the meantime he had remarried he lived in an exclusive Laguna Beach neighborhood. Dolly show general. Sir Sir Photo for biologic father. WHO's a sailor named Generoso? Now this is the first time generosity knew that her mother had not been married to her father and she. She resented her mother for lying to her for failing to protect her while sure but they said that from that time forward generoso was a different girl she it was determined to be strong and to be rich. She didn't ever want to have children of her own either. She decided that her mother's death had been a good thing and now she it was free to live a better life. Uncle Al's new wife on March was a smart and financially well off woman generosity admired her her and ended up having kind of special friendship with her March said that she wanted generosity to live with them but the house was really full and there was a a lot of friction between Genera and her cousins Generoso was prone to temper tantrums and she could be very jealous devious and manipulative in her mind. It was her way or no way in Dolly had been a fairly troubled teen also maybe not to the extent that China Rosa's but eventually Dolly was sent to live with her older half sister. Terry Terry's husband and their two kids and Santa Clara California an aunt. Marge had a rich friend who lived in Laguna beach with her husband and their two children. These folks had an eight bedroom house on a horse ranch so jane the woman who was living in house offer to adopt generosity and generous moved in with Jane and the family. She became very good at horseriding more than good actually. She competed shows and she even one ribbons. She also began to do well in school so seems like she's coming out of her Funchal Obita. She seemed to really thrive there. She learned to play the piano. She got braces to fix her teeth and she seemed to have things going pretty well. She had money she. Her loving parents foster parents appearance. Whatever and in a state with their own horace right? So you'd think everything was great and she could be quite charming coming but she was continuing to have a frightening temper big tantrums to whenever anything wasn't going her way and as generous entered late adolescence she had really changed from the sweet girl to a really rebellious troublemaker. In nineteen sixty seven. Jane Call generalises half sister Terry and told her that Generoso was causing trouble with the other. Kids generous was demanding jealous and she just seemed like she could never have enough material possessions. Jane and her husband couldn't controller. They were really tired and kind of desperate to be relieved of her. Terry was well aware of how it felt to be abandoned. She'd had a similar childhood and she felt sympathy for her little sister so she agreed to take her in and and remember Terry was already parenting Dali. Her husband was a high school English teacher. who was very patient and good with the kids? Terry and her husband had two kids of their own two daughters Julian. Amy and their house was pretty comfortable. They had four bedrooms and two baths but it wasn't anything like the estate that generosity was coming from and it wasn't good enough for her. She was really unhappy about being there and became came angry and very resentful. She no longer lived on the estate and she had to leave her horse behind. That really pissed her off. Life wasn't fair to her. She she said and she was just kind of angry at the whole world. When Dolly was eighteen she got her own apartment in San Jose? She moved out of the House the Teri and her husband had Dolly soon became promiscuous and got herself into drugs. terrier also been sexually abused as a child and when Dolly moved out Terry became very depressed and as she sent deeper and deeper into depression. She generosity butted heads almost seemed like generous new. The Terry has some weaknesses and was using against her and then Terry's husband began Genaro says that influence on the younger daughters. They sire getting away with do things and they themselves got into trouble right so this is just difficult. And it ended up being really heartbreaking for Terry who had only wanted to help her sisters sisters but she and her husband finally had decide that they just couldn't handle generosity and terry wasn't feeling well. The house was just kind of getting out of control. They told generous that the situation wasn't working finally and she was given one month's notice to find a new place to live generosity. Orosa cried but Terry promise that they would continue to help her however they could and generosity finally said she understood but you know this was her fourth big rejection. She'd been abandoned by her mother. Her uncle Jane Reagan who owned The estate and now tearing her husband so she was sad but you know really building. This deep seated anger so generous ended up living with another family who were friends with her aunt and this family had two teenage daughters others of their own and they lived in Los Angeles so things are okay at this house for a while. The family found generous to be very creative and pretty talented anted artistically. But she was Moody's Hell.
Global stocks hit record as rally enters new year, dollar rebounds
"We kick things off with a record starts at twenty twenty Z.. Of Green on Wall Street today the SNP the Dow and Nasdaq all all closing at all. Time highs should investors. Just keep writing this record wave or or is it time for a new strategy for a New Year. Steve Grosso. What's his thank? You look tight and be happy what we need to do. I think you can't buy all. Traders are not back until Monday. This is still a holiday week so think about what worked last year. That's what worked today. Tech Industrials actually ripping today communications nations ripping today. So I do think you can sit back. But beware sell off Q one. Dan Does that. Does that. Sound a little ironic the way to say that in a little a little pets but yes yes you do have an opportunity to buy a dip in Q. You're saying the last time I was here. You were saying basically the same thing. Beware the ides of March basic. Or something like that. Yeah I I mean. At least it's not particularly healthy to have these mega cap names Microsoft apple double the performance of the SNP on the opening day of the year. It'd probably doesn't get much better than I don't mean that they're not going to go up further from here but that concentration of those mega caps has been an issue right there increasingly if you looked at what apple did obviously going to three hundred today. What did the S. and P. Five hundred the last hour a day it kind of drag it up here so that sort of performance reminds me a little bit about what worked in late December? Two thousand seventeen teen into two thousand in eighteen and we had five hundred Nasdaq up eight percent as we headed into the bulk of q four earnings in the last week of January so these sorts of setups are really treacherous and a lot of ways for a lot of investors. Because if you didn't do a whole heck of a lot in a year like last year when the SNP was up twenty eight percent. You didn't do anything basically to reduce your risk. You're going to start thinking about it now but to these points if everything is going to continue to work until we have a reason to sell and that may not be until earnings. It's kind of hard to get out of the way in in the meantime. We've we climbed a wall of worry Karen in two thousand nineteen that was basically defined by trade now. Looks like there has been a breakthrough on trade. Maybe that wall of worry is still there. But maybe it's not a steep as it was. Maybe it's not a state. I mean we have a supposed date for signing of the first of the phase. He's one whichever that is. I don't even know I don't even know what's in IT I. I'm not that impressed knows what's in it secret deal. It's very secret and we may never know what's in it so I'm a little skeptical on that clearly. If there were troubles there and that didn't happen we would see a big down in the market but I mean Dan touched on. When when Apple's up on no no news that I saw today no news apple is now worth you know however many billion dollars more? That's scary to me. I do own it a little nervous about it because when you have a big run up into earnings the bar is higher and higher and they could if they keep running up like this and have a blowout quarter still might not be enough to sustain where it is now so I hate when the market moves like this on New China. You're starting to see you might see a little bit of a multiple expansion with apple boy. I know it's value personal fanatic. I it's been it's been deserved. The mix of the businesses definitely totally get everything. Bring everything everything that would worry you and Dan said it to in the past. It is still a hardware company but when you look at services and that number at forty six billion when you look at streaming dreaming all along with that and everything else that seems to be clicking that to me means further multiple expansion. I wouldn't be nervous about it. We saved the guest for less this. I think I agree. Today is kind of a vacation day. I mean it's a pseudo vacation day. Most people aren't sitting at their desks. The terrifically believe that's the Tel is at. Nobody's here in midtown trading. The moment of reckoning comes next week and Armato so we track a variety of predictive signals and our best short term predictive signal is earnings revisions. And what we're noticing is that earnings as revision downward and upward revisions over the last thirty days and actually that revision ratio is trending way below average. which is never a good sign for the next next couple of months performance? So I think we're GONNA see an up year again. Nothing like last year. Be Too much to expect that you would have a year like this year. I think kind of I. I don't know what gets us there. Maybe if interest rates go to zero or negative and there is literally no place to go except the S. and P. Five hundred hundred. Maybe we get another blockbuster year but I do think that the first quarter is going to be a little bit messier remember. Oh seven Oh eight. That was that were the two big back actor back years here. Made a really good point. I think piggybacking on what to do just said you know when you go you have this big run into earning season expectations really high. It sets up as a differ for difficult setup. And I'll just say this if your management of a company and you realize that your stock price dramatically benefited from multiple expansion the prior year when you did not have meaningful earnings this growth. And now you're GonNa Guide for Twenty Twenty in the next few weeks you're likely to be a bit more conservative than you would otherwise because the pain that you will feel if you get that wrong right if you actually give overly aggressive guidance and then not only do miss but then you have to guide down again for the full year. That's how stocks get put in penalty boxes Maria the role. So I I just think that idea of conservative guidance for at least the first half of two thousand twenty especially as we don't know what is in that trade deal and when in phase two comes that will continue to be a headwind leak at least on management how they think about cataracts in the first half I said Oh seven Oh eight. I'm older than I thought I was thinking. Ninety seven thousand nine hundred ninety. Those were big back to back. Six or seven. Were good years. We're ninety six and seven ninety eight. The Russian decorations racist in August six ninety seven where the big
"messier" Discussed on The Daily
"So it's tough to reconstruct what the substance of those calls were but it's pretty unusual situation all around it is. I think deeply concerning that at a time when the present United States was using the power of his office to to dig up dirt on political rival That there may be evidence that they were members of Congress complicit in that activity. What's your understanding of why given the juicy -ness of what you just described the house? Intelligence Committee is closing shop and handing all its work over to the judiciary committee rather than continuing to figure out what just happened with Nunez and with everything else in the report well Schiff says that he basically is not closing up shop. There are still questions about these calls and also other broader issues like did this pressure campaign actually begin and much earlier with the previous president of Ukraine that they still want answered but what he says is that there is more investigative work to be done even as we. I believe that we cannot wait. Because the president's efforts to secure intervention the next election persist we continue our investigation and we will the president's efforts to get a foreign power to interfere in the twenty twenty election are ongoing and so we need to move. We need to get this thing going. And what he doesn't say but also the case is that the outcome here is pretty much known at least in the House. They are very likely eh draft articles of impeachment to vote them through to send the matter to the Senate and Democrats believe that they have the evidence that they need to do that. And so this is the moment they think to get this thing moving and so now. The work of the Judiciary Committee begins right and on paper they have a very simple and very somber task of taking this lengthy report and deciding whether this rises to the level of impeachable offenses whether under the constitution. This is something you bet warrants. The president's removal remember. This is the judiciary committee this is the Messier more partisan culture war committee and and nobody expects for this to be a very orderly or button-down process.
"messier" Discussed on The Daily
"Today. The House Intelligence Committee has released. It's impeachment will pour to the judiciary committee signaling the end of one phase of impeachment impeachment and the beginning of another jewelry Davis on those two phases who look so different. It's Wednesday December. Four to tell me about these these two phases of the house impeachment inquiry. Well the House Intelligence Committee has just finished its report and completed its work and now the House Judiciary Committee has its job to do and these are two very different committees. The House Intelligence Committee is a very sort of buttoned up frequently. Less partisan place they deal in matters of intelligence they oversee the intelligence community. They deal in state secrets and because of that committee has been extensively actively briefed on these efforts over regular basis as part of our ongoing oversight responsibility Over the sort of the workhorse members who are are into dealing with long reports really meaty substantive issues oftentimes behind closed doors not in front of the news cameras ranking member and I believe it is important to hold an open hearing today. We don't do a tremendous amount of those data Tori tactics parliamentary stunts that sort. It just doesn't happen that often in the intelligence committee because that's just not what they're about. The Judiciary Committee will come to order and without objection. The chair is authorized to declare recesses of the committee at any time. The Judiciary Committee on the other hand is kind of known for that and the Judiciary Committee oversees the Federal Courts and the Justice Department but it also has jurisdiction over over cultural hot button issues. We welcome everyone to this morning's hearing on planned. Parenthood exposed examining the horrific abortion practices at the nation's largest largest abortion provider. It has jurisdiction over questions of abortion rights over gun rights. I asked my colleagues on this committee. Both Republicans Republicans and Democrats to stand up with me and supporting this legislation. We have to save lives some of the things that typically draw the most sort of fervent responses from both parties and so it attracts members who want to engage in that level level of really partisan debate people who really seek out the spotlight who want to engage in the culture war type of subjects that come before the Judiciary Committee Eh. They sort of excel in these very highly partisan public debates. These debates that happened in the judiciary committee are typically much more raucous. Much more freewheeling. And it's it's a much more partisan place so crude summary here. The intelligence committee is dominated by rule oriented readers the workhorses the judiciary committee committee is more dominated by culture warriors. The show horses. That's right and to be clear. There is some overlap between the two committees. There are people who serve on both committee. And it's not like everyone on the Judiciary Committee. Is You know guns. Blazing Culture Warrior and everyone on the intelligence committee is dry consumer of long intelligence since reports but that is the profile of these two committees and those tend to be the sorts of people who seek out seats on the intelligence and the judiciary committee so there is is kind of a cultural difference there so explain how these different rules of these two committees are actually playing out in this impeachment. Let's start with the intelligence committee since its work has just been completed. How was its broader rule its rules and its mission reflected in the work of the impeachment inquiry over the past few weeks while the intelligence committee is used to working in secret working in a setting where you're controlling the flow of information because by definition they're dealing link with intelligence matters and that can't be debated freely on the House floor and its procedures also reflect that there is less opportunity for are the minority party to kind of shut down the proceedings? Because if they were allowed to do that that could be dangerous. I mean that that has actual implications potentially for national security so the very rules of the committee they're used to operating under are just tighter by definition and you saw Adam Schiff the chairman of the committee really using that his advantage when it came to controlling the witness list having a say in who Republicans would be able to call as witnesses so Republicans for instance wanted to call. Hunter Biden the son of former vice president. Joe Biden which Democrats knew that that would sort of be a red herring and so they did not sign off refund calling Hunter Biden they did allow Republicans to call some witnesses. We saw them call. Kurt Volcker the former special envoy to Ukraine and Tim Morrison who was a former national. All Security Council official so they didn't shut them down altogether but again the committee operates in this way where the rights of the minority are prescribed. Such that they can't just do anything they want whenever they want. And what about the witnesses who the Democrats wanted to call. How did they use the intelligence committees rules to their advantage? Well they were very careful to design a process where the lawyers for each side would be doing or could be doing the bulk of the question and so that was was a concerted. Move on the part of Adam Shift. The chairman will now move to the forty five minute rounds. I recognize myself majority counsel for forty five minutes to you have long substantive rounds of centrally evidence gathering taking the testimony laying out in a public way rather than having lawmakers take turns and have it be a free for for all of people trying to get their you know five minutes of sound bites in and then when Republicans did try to kind of bend things I so Mr Phonic you had a few questions or the ambassador. Yield to you Mr Bonnet as ambassador IANOVICH. Thank you for the J.. shiftily shut them down. There was a moment couple of hearings in where Elise Stefanik Republican congresswoman from New York who Republicans wanted to spotlight spotlight particularly because that day they were hearing from female witness the more Ukraine Ambassador Marie Ivanovich and they knew they were going to be accused of sort of berating her and hammering hammering at her and she's a woman and you know sort of man's blaming her and so they really wanted Stefanik to have the spotlight gentlewoman was suspend. What does the interruption? For this time. Our time the the gentleman will suspend your not recognized Mr Nunez you or coastal. I just recognized under the house. Residents six sixty or not allowed to you'll time except the minority ranking member yielded time I'm another member of Congress. They tried to yield time to her and Schiff. Just shut it down the accurate ambassador Ivanovich. I want to thank you for not recognized right in the rules would protect this sort of thing theoretically so that a member of the minority party on the intelligence committee wouldn't didn't say bring up the location of American CIA age overseas right and granted these issues that were coming up in the impeachment hearings were not strictly intelligence matters. There wasn't necessarily a risk that anyone was going to go blabbing about black sites but the rules that they were using were designed for those sorts of things and so we saw chairmanship take pretty good advantage of that right now. That a bookish member of the intelligence committee would ever do such a thing but just in case just in case so the Republicans Kinda get sidelined in this process because of these rules and the way. The committee enforces them. What was the outcome for the Democrats? Who are overseeing doing? This will the outcome was very much as they had hoped it would be. They really were able to use the process to get what they needed. Out of the witnesses that they called was there a quid pro quo with regard to the requested White House call and the White House meeting. The answer is yes. They laid out this narrative live. It would be funny if it wasn't such graphic portrayal of the president's oath of office accusing the president of having abused his power and we also agree that it's just wrong yes and narratives from people who were there at key moments proven. What was your real time reaction to hearing that call? Hearing thing his phone call with the president of Ukraine. I knew that I had to report this. To the White House counsel I had concerns and it was my duty to report saying in front of a committee room that everyone was in the loose in the loop this came directly from the president of the express direction the president of the United States. We were following. The president's orders followed the president's orders and basically got the information that they needed and the predicates craddock it for laying out a case against president trump. That could be grounds for impeachment. We are going to house intelligence committee chair Adam Schiff for the news conference on the Impeachment Committee report which brings US Tuesday right so on Tuesday house. Intelligence Committee was ready to release. Its report and send it over to the House Judiciary Committee so they put together this three hundred page the report. Lots of footnotes release it publicly and then Adam Schiff. The committee chairman goes to the press gallery and the capital and and raise it all out this report. Chronicles a scheme by the president. United States to coerce an ally Ukraine That is at war with an adversary Surrey. Russia into doing the president's Political dirty work involves a scheme in which donald trump withheld official acts acts a White House meeting as well as hundreds of millions of dollars of needed military assistance in order to compel that power to deliver to investigations that he believed would assist his reelection campaign and he raises this question again of whether people should have to accept that this is conduct that the president is allowed engage in and essentially lays out the predicate for what they're going to give to the judiciary committee without. I'm happy to respond bushes. Then kinship takes questions from reporters and the first question is about essentially the only really new things that is not familiar to people who watch the hearings the report and that is these cell phone records that show contact between Rudy Giuliani president. Trump's personal lawyer fire and various White House officials including John Bolton the former national security advisor but also Devon Nunez. Who is the senior Republican again on the House Intelligence Committee and his contacts with Lev Parnasse? Who is an associate of Rudy Giuliani? who was also pushing for the ouster of the Ukrainian Ukrainian ambassador who the president wanted gone? But certainly the phone records show that there was considerable coordination among the parties including the White House. You're telling me though that we just learned in this report that the leading Republican on the Intelligence Committee was communicating end perhaps coordinating with the White House and the president's lawyer months ago and communicating with key figures. Involved in the press campaign that that very committee he's on is supposed to be investigating correct. It's pretty stunning information. Although we don't know what was discussed in those calls all we have is time stamps temps and phone numbers and.
"messier" Discussed on The Peter Attia Drive
"It doesn't have to be anything like I did when I was in the three hours in the gym. And all that. But if it's twenty minutes of Cardio or it's a anything a yoga session or so. I'm kind of resigned to the fact that if anybody's doing anything I'll kind of jumping on it and try it and obviously got a little bit of a routine to three or four days a week. But I'll try anything do anything and just to keep the body movement. How often do you get back on skates plan? Some charity events every once in a while. I'm on the ice quite a bit because I coach my son's team so I'm on the ice I use actually Friends rank up in wire mill. Paul Orland the Great Guy. He's got a little private rink there. So I go there and just do some cardio. You'll just get other unscathed. I'll just get up there and and just do skating exercises because it just so good for your core and for your and you don't have the impact and you don't have the impact of running and all that right and so it's just so much development of your core in your legs and all that so keep that strong. How fast can you skate? Relative to your twenty eight year old self what percent sent will what you realize is that you have such massive leg power when you're playing and when you stop that atrophies pretty quickly so if I had to say put a percentage on it. Yeah I'm curious as to how far you would fall in twenty years I would say I have ten percent would ahead way ten percent less no overall. You're that far from over. You're twenty years ago I would. I would say so but my guess is if you still. I'm still in good shape. I can still skate. But if if you get back on the ice with a bunch of forty year old dudes I bet you skate. Circles around them right depends on what you're skating. I mean if I if I took six months and skated skated in started to develop some of the muscles that you really need the skate and freer edging and all that. Yeah may maybe but you know. I'm fifty eight so you know it just atrophy unless you skate every day those muscles atrophy. You know you're growing is in your hip. Lectures your quads and Ham. I mean that whole muscle group group of of your legs and so that's just straight away speed skating around circles. What about the ability to change direction is that even more lost? Is that even though some laws because you instantly they become fatigued with because you don't have the muscle power there so it's just it's amazing actually. In fact it wasn't. It was about two years after I retired and I put my equipment Whitman to do something and I felt like I didn't have my. I felt like you were wearing someone else's equipment because my legs were about twice the size and my pants fit different and all of a sudden my legs were in the pants that I had retired with and it felt like they were just swimming on me just because of the of the atrophy. What do you weigh now? Now we about to fifteen which is not that far from what you play later. era to fifteen. or so. Just distribute it. Just you just don't have the muscle. Mass awesome you lose muscle mass just because of age but you also you'd lose must never not years. Well I mean you can't just a the Ma- mazing how much power it takes to play hockey from a legs eggs standpoint and a and a cardiovascular standpoint. It's incredible in you know when you do it from the time you're young boy till the time you're forty something and you retire you. You don't even think about it because on the ice and not even think about it. What is your son? Think about hockey the one that you coach. He's how will will lines through the older boys thirty two and he's Khotan. He loves hockey at. T's made a career of coaching kids in up in Washington. D little caps Douglas Loves Hockey's sixteen playing midget hockey hockey. And that's the one you coach. Yeah Yeah does he WANNA play pro. I think you'll love the play pro. Is it hard. How do you feel about letting him be his own guy? Oh I think he needs completely needs to go on that journey of self exploration to see what he can extract them himself to see. Ask You about it We talk often about hockey. I think he knows what's required even before whether or not you have the talent. It's an interesting journey for him to see where he can take it ultimately that will be defined by him and not by me. It's gotTa be interesting. It's got to be a mixed bag of emotions for for you to watch your watch. Your kids play this game and know that I you know I know enough about you to know that all you really care about. Is You just want your kids to be happy you want. Your kids is to sort of find their own way and you WANNA stay out of their way enough but also be there enough to answer a question and support amendment. It's just I think it just harder. When Your Dad Atas Mark Messier to Balance Your Dad was such an important part of your development? Is it sort of like you wanna be able to provide exactly what your dad did. No more no less. That sort of how you thought about being a son of any professional player in any sport is gonNA come with some baggage for the kids whether they feel it as they're expected to be a great player because her dad was and and all the things that go along with it ultimately the reason why sports in my opinion is such a great thing for all kids is it. It does take you on that self journey of self awareness in what you WanNa do and are able to do and are able to put the discipline in the time in. That's required a to be the best you can be. It doesn't matter how good everybody else's what do you have. and Are you willing to extract every ounce of talent talent and work out of your own body that ultimately no matter how far you take it will serve you well in wherever you land whether it's in a sport or in business or whatever that kind of journey can only be beneficial for for all kids and certainly for for my kids as well and I think there's something else about team sports which is all the stuff you've alluded to around this type of leadership and the difference between I was loved that movie miracle to the thought that it's such a great job of love showing how at an individual level. That team was not nearly as talented as the Soviets right but on that one moment in that tournament everything everything that they had done under her brooke sort of came together and they outplayed the best team on in the world as a team not as a collection of individuals else. And so much of what you talk about is really. You repeatedly emphasized this importance of of both leadership team play and the dynamics of the team and again I think you've you've paid a lot of that tribute both to your dad into Gretzky as being too great role models of that and many more but yeah. There's there's a lot of information mation out there for for any young aspiring sportsman sportswoman girl boy. No matter what their dance music acting hockey baseball football whatever. It is if you're interested. There's a lot to learn if you're interested Tummy put the Mark Messier Foundation. What do you guys do well? When Chris came to New York it was really important for me to entrench myself into the community? The first charter ever got involved with was the Albert Lung Association when I became a pro in In Evanston in Glen say there are codes air. Really Kinda emphasize that we'd get out into the community and pick a charity and attach your name to it and help help. The Alberto Lung. Association was an incredible learning experience for me. Because it's all about the babies that were born premature and had unhealthy lungs and whatnot fast forward to come into New York. The inundation of requests to get involved with some kind of charity in the city was overwhelming so I they had to figure out a charity involve myself with and then held as much as I could everywhere else and that became the Tomorrows Children's Fund at the hackensack medical. The university and years after retirement it became apparent that I could start my own foundation and really kind of focused on the things that inspired me. The most net was giving back to providing access and opportunity to kids. That didn't have the means to do it. Like hockey in the city so the mark missy foundation is basically that it's about creating access and opportunity in different areas. Aries of kids lives there that they would never have had the opportunity. Otherwise for different circumstances whether it's financial or infrastructure not available or in school aspects or whatever. So that's what we're focused on. And it spun out of the Kingsbridge nationalist project that we're trying to build here in the city that that would provide provide a lot more access and opportunity to kids to play hockey in the metropolitan area here with three. NHL Teams you. You'd think we could do a better job of the creating more access for kids to play sport that so much entrenched into this metropolitan area. It's hard to imagine you not living here isn't it. You have so many tentacles in this in this New York Area Business Wise Philanthropy wise family wise which is again I for me I always think of you as being from Edmonton which of course you are from but if probably lived almost as much of your life here as you have their right yeah well. Let's close. I came here when I was just thirty. And I'm fifty eight now so would spin a you know I I remember my first press conference saying they hoped my second occurs. This gives my first. We're able to win as many championships here in New York Eric. But we're able to win the one but my experience here in New York has been incredible. I think the thing that really drew me to come to new. York was not only the challenge of Reagan. The fifty four year world drought of the Stanley Cup. Also immersing myself into a city of this magnitude and and the culture and all the things that go along with it that was very appealing to to me and it didn't disappoint me in any way. I've can't tell you how much I've enjoyed my time as a player in in retirement in this area area and the people and the amount of experience that I've had with so many different types of people in the city it's interesting I mean last thing I really WanNa talk about mark. Is this idea. Where are there just seemed to be two types of athletes? There are those who retire. Who can never sort of get over the fact that they're not still all twenty eight years old and that their glory is no longer going to be wed to that and then there were another group of athletes who retire and move on an and continue to like live life to the fullest with respect to whatever the next chapters of their lives fit in your obviously the latter category? I mean we could have in a whole other podcast talking about what you're doing in business today and all the things you're doing outside of hockey do you have a sense of why you're able to make that transition and when it was time to say goodbye you said goodbye and you know your identity doesn't have to be wrapped up in that And why others have such a difficult time doing that. What what do you think defines I think you just nailed it. I think to put a very quickly. I think the the thing is. I didn't identify myself only as a hockey player. I think that in order for me to be able to do that I needed to good family around me and good people around you to remind you that. There's a lot more to life than hockey. Although it's a huge part of my life from the time I was very young to the time I turned pro in his one of the things that I had to really focus in on when I was eighteen. Because it requires all your attention to perform at your highest level. But it wasn't who I was as a person big difference and I think with good people around you to remind you of what's possible.
"messier" Discussed on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
"We were just named the biggest radio show in the history of radio. What I have the ability to do if you wanna talk to a manager and owner, I could speak to them is I have the I will in exchange for this. Great reservation. I will promote you guys on the show on my podcast, which is number one. And apple beginning Oprah. I will promote you guys everywhere on all platforms in exchange for this reservation. Okay. But what I'm telling you what I need though, I'm bringing eight okay? I want to arm you with all the information. You could tell you. Majer? Okay. It's me. It's my wife aids. Mark Messier the messiah you've heard of him. Well, tell your manager the messiahs coming and shut messing have you heard. He was in New York arrows indoor goalkeeper soccer of back in the eighties. Amazing head of hair. Okay. And then it's my mom and dad, so if you need to like cut out to people not equation, you can get rid of my mom and my wife. But really I eight and then if you wanna talk to your manager that'd be great. But I need to be like eleven fifteen Armant big Trump. Okay. So let me just play repos. Okay. Good, right. Right. I gotta drops about him gays. I should've dropped some gays case in your face of the franchise. You think she's telling him the messiah is coming. Thinking what can I help you? I was on. I was on hold waiting to hear back about a reservation and a manager. Oh, you are. Okay. That's why I'm here. What was her name before? Because she's lovely. She's fantastic Ford. But NASA then with the day. Okay. Is it for mother's day that you're trying to make a reservation? Yeah..
"messier" Discussed on The Read
"Yeah. I don't think it's having your cake and eating into only because you could absolutely have a stable household, and and have sex the girls like you could be married to somebody who would be right cool with allowing you to say, she ate. But it sounds like you aren't really feeling him like like that and a marriage sway outside of your desire to eat box. Like, it sounds like you got married earlier than you wanted to. And you're just in over your head. She said, I don't love being married. So she misses eating pussy. I would start considering not being married. Then again, when it's when it's a dating situation, I'm all for like break up with him. If it's reasonable to me is not a hesitation, I tried to step back a little bit when motherfuckers right in and say, I'm divorced. I'm divorced. I'm married. Just because a the after divorce all of that stuff is way Messier than just being like, get your CDs. Shit fucking house. But the reason I feel like you should probably consider not being married anymore is because I think what happened is that you will eventually lead. You will eventually do something that will lead you to being divorced anyway, much Messier way. Right. Because if you wanna eat pussy, it's only going to be so long before you like that's just that's just that got married too young. You didn't even really know yourself. Twenty four is very fucking young some people get married at that age and live happily ever after. But that shoe, and it's okay that that's not it is you want the stability of having, you know, this home that I guess you in this white man either still paying for but together, and you know, there's a certain level of financial comfort that most people enjoy in marriage two incomes are better than one true be real true. But I mean, especially if you can if you can hack it out on your own girl. Sounds like y'all either going. To fair or to divorce court is one of the other. I mean. This is giving me trying to stick it out. And then odds are you'll end up on a grace, frankness even. Saying like, I'm not even trying to get you to stick it. I I don't think you should. Yeah. I mean, I don't either it's just that divorce is like in a difficult process. If for lengthy, at least, they'll have kids, they don't have kids have property, and like damn girl you bought a house with his known if he doesn't want to get divorced and he can make it hard. He can make a messy he can drag it out he can refuse to sign the papers. So that may be something to take into consideration. But girl, you just straight up don't sound happy in this release. You don't like it. You don't wanna be married? So maybe you should start your own therapy..
"messier" Discussed on News 96.5 WDBO
"Of the pool package. You can do that. Or a totally self contained pool. If you have a screen closure. Let's do without a screen and closure. It's a lot less Messier. I am saved probably has a little more free space to work with when you don't have the screen and close. Yeah. So it's a lot a lot less Messier because you're not blowing inside green and closure. All over everything else. And we have a lot of preparation to do if we're going to do that. So when you do have a screen enclosure, and we have to work within the confines of that screen closure. We are going to make even a bigger mess. But you know, what message are made to be cleaned up. And who is nothing, but the best at doing what they do is is men cleaning up their own massive. Isn't that isn't that something in today's world? If you're a man, and you make a mess, you better clean it up. Don't expect your other partner wife to do it. You do it. That's what we do. We make a mess. We clean it up. My debt crew I pay everybody when they do each phase of their job to clean up after themselves. That's part of the package. Would you walk on our jobs there claim we don't leave messes? We don't leave material laying around. We we tidy up. You will not find debris on my jobs because that's not acceptable. You're swimming pool. Even though it is below grade. It's not trash can people think it is falls in the holiday. Let guy get it. Well, we don't like that. We don't like that at all. It's not good for your pool. Either. Right. So I go out, and I'm meet the Walsh residents on Thursday. And they have a pool that's five years old that they did not have built it was built by another contractor. And they call that contractor and said, hey, will you at a spa pool, and they said absolutely not. So now they're in the wheel of spinning around and making phone calls. And then the Mississippi as I listen to the pool fanatic. Let's call him. So I go out meet with them on Thursday. And we were able to turn a drawing around to them yesterday. My wife, absolutely loves drawing, swimming pools and put details on them and get them in three D And presenting that back. So I got a very nice Email back today that they will not be listening to the show today. But guess what they are going to listen to it tomorrow. Think about that. We have the ability tell people.
"messier" Discussed on Love That Lasts Podcast
"That's interesting. That's interesting there. But actually, I've thought there too. So yeah, I don't know. Exactly. Like, I just I don't know. It's starting to make me a little uneasy. I I have a process with some fully. I just don't know. Here's I'm trying to say is I don't I'm uneasy with it. Because I feel like you should be vulnerable, and you should be in life is messy life is not perfect. But a couple of things one you shouldn't like that shouldn't be you're like a brand to it shouldn't be a badge of honor. Meaning I think we've created it so much. So we're now like the goal is actually just to get there and stay there. Just get two more vulnerability enough anticipate. That's the goal rather than personally like when I'm vulnerable or Messier, honest. I feel like the goal is not to stay there. The goal is to be like this is where I'm at. And I want to get out. I want to grow. I want to get better. I wanna find order. I wanna find Shalom. I wanna find beauty point. And so I think it's kind of self terminate terminated and cannibalize on itself where I think it's also hindering a lot of our personal growth because our standards are. Being lowered for lack of a better term because we just kinda can say, oh, this is just hash. Take real life one with. No that's hashtag sin, right, depending on what it is not the Mustang. No, I'm talking about way. Of course, not that. I was totally thinking about a different thing. When I said that like way down the spectrum. I think is when it's just the like, you know, I love Jesus. But I cuss a little type thing and stuff like that. And right now, we can get into the whole language thing. And all that I've actually done a video on that is swearing a sin. Go watch that you'll probably be surprised by what I say. I don't just say that. Yes. These five words are bad. Everything else was great. I don't say that. But I think yeah. That's part way down the spectrum. It's like, no that's not you know, what I'm saying. Like, sometimes it can be almost it's almost turned into an excuse for certain things now way on the other end spectrum because it makes them mostly just on social media, or no, no social media. And that that's let's get into the first section at coffee with someone. No, no, no, no. That's the first distinction. Thank you for making me clarify. You guys could tell those that are listening. This is like s really processing. Yeah. And so this is a good clarification. I think internet this one trying to say, I think more. Most internet vulnerability and authentic city and messy nece, and my opinion is fake vulnerability authenticity and messing us now not from their heart. Like, I don't think they're being under saying, I don't think that's actually the true nature of vulnerability and messing this. I think that should be out coffee with a friend. Yeah. Because it makes sense. So that's what I'm trying to say is I think a lot of times we take things to the internet before we take them to real people in real life. That's another way what I'm trying to say..
"messier" Discussed on Talk Python To Me
"Routes you to one point from one point to another in a city that helps you avoid obstacles that might be pretty dynamic and changing all the time. So it's kind of like you'll mass. It's more of a to a street for the users sin info back a lot more to. Okay, cool with that in mind. How does ways play into this story? Well, as you can imagine. It captures a ton of data about driving patterns, not only doesn't know what's happening in real time. But all that is stored. And so you start to get a sense about how people move through cities in general, and once you have data that captures a behavior in general in data science you can start to make predictions using that data. So you can train a model and say generally, this is how things work, and then maybe could make some predictions about how things work in the future, and assuming that historical data is accurate than you can usually make pretty decent predictions. And so the cool thing about an application like ways that captures not only traffic patterns, but also events like accident. Car crashes is that you could predict win wear. Car crashes are likely to occur which is kind of mind blowing. I think traffic seems like this total super complex impossible to understand Messier ever. Thought of chaos. Totally. Yeah. Like if a butterfly can affect whether like people just be crazy in cars. They can't be crazy and cars, and I don't know if everybody will be familiar with this famous experimented where they scientists set up a circular track and put cars the head cars drive around the circular track all like equa- distant from one another. So in theory, they could maintain their speed. But because they're human beings driving the cars, they would occasionally make these little choices like they feel like they got a little bit equal to the crime front of them. They'd put a little bit too much gas than they would get too close. And so they break and then as soon as they put their foot on the break in the car behind them on the break. And then there was this cascading effect, and no matter what even though there was enough room for all of these parts on the road. They wound up in a traffic.
"messier" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"That like how can you help us tell deeper stories and i know we're talking about the exhibition chairs but also have to say some of these sports some of the sports stars have been incredible would not only their but understanding the importance of the story we want to tell a mark messier has been incredible not only has he lent you know artifacts and he's helping us tell stories he sat down for an all history that will be part of the exhibition but just spending the time to tell us his perspective and what he was feeling and you know what the team was feeling and he's a captain he's a hall of famer that's extraordinary story to share with the museum that's gonna share with millions of people on the same could be said about body dollar time who will be today kicked off our race a five k run walk you know histories extraordinary to he was there there that night with mike piazza with the historic home on but also he brought his team down the ground zero let them down the ground zero to support in thank the workers on the pile that's that's an incredible perspective i have i think it's a great story i share a particularly in our in our space where this history happened so many things that went to talk about with you one of them you just mentioned you have the run walk five k run walk and day taking place what is the what's the the real significance of of this event this in terms of supporting the work of the museum and moral well sixth annual well walk and we have a community day component at the end of divine walk we're inviting people not it's free to all been by everyone wherever they they come for different activities you know it started it just to highlight the need for people to volunteer their time served provide service to their communities because it doesn't take just one person that takes a lot of people who who wanna get together and change things so it really started with that like nine eleven a lot of people together people was selfless they volunteer they did everything possibly that that they could so that's what the five k run walk was born out of but also it's use as a time for people to remember on a to run or walk for some some family member that they knew who was lost in.
"messier" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Conditions for peace talks that they'd accomplish what they were supposed to do and and the troops were going home well it hasn't worked out that way and certainly these efforts to push forward peace talks and to go see ations have not played all that well either and meanwhile this russian coalition with turkey and iran has been really strained you have israel getting involved in carrying out airstrikes against iran it just keeps get messier and messier the world's charles in moscow it's a side beside time again which is part of future folk our partnership was smithsonian folk ways so for the assigned as you may know the world's brandy fullwood takes a track from the smithsonian archives then she goes over to something she's been listening to lately and that's the b side today's eisai side is about structure and ritual how do you create structure possibly a lot of rituals persistence organization and depress it's a lot like developing a rhythm in two thousand and two the smithsonian put out the silk road a musical caravan they ask what if marco polo had a tape recorder and legal speculations aside the album captures rich sounds from turkey who's pakistan azerbaijan and xinjiang china dickers the nineteenth travel it's somebody knocks brandi afc brotherhood this performance is a ritual practice particular to sufis but in central asia it's also performed by shamans and by groups of non sufi muslims.
"messier" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"Each and then you know the you know the cast i don't have to tell you and i do agree with you can't just hire mark messier because he sells tickets do anything and then if you're trying to replace it with a new fresh face i mean no offense to mark messier great player but he thinks like say you're gonna get the same exact thing he sees things just like say there and it just i'm stunned i don't care for this move like you said i wish i could explain to a fan who coached the rangers better the navy john tortorella the only other one i can think of but you know it's it's about time maybe they look at themselves i mean say how many bad roster moves that he making the last four years you know stroman getting rid of him they were playing with dan boyle he could do anything year and i liked todarello i actually got chance to meet tortorella couple times truth be told not as just you and i talked to nobody else listening right every once in a while atm outside madison square garden grabbing a smoke and i go out and i'd be having a cigarette too and he and i would shoot the breeze and i always liked the guy but i could see when they moved away from him it was a personality thing 'cause torn umbrella was a breath guy and he was a tough guy and they just thought he didn't mesh with the kind of talent that they had eventually put together in nebraska day meaning was bad coach didn't mean he couldn't have one but they wanted to go in a different direction i've not heard this about video that he's a tough coach and he's a tough guy to get along with i know he's got a strict system that he likes and he uses and he's been loyal to it for a long time handle of success using it in the national hockey league but not the kind of guy who gets under the players.
"messier" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"Do you even know who the the hockey mark messier as i do everything in our past not with you guys know what i'm saying i'm not educating you on the war educating on things that you need to know about each of us looks and crannies nooks and crannies as probably says here is that mark messier is is absolutely levels paulie mac like he's he's he can't even speak and mark messier came to new york city radio row and punt expected just staring at him and he was hitting me mark messier mark mexico couldn't believe yes right here there's more messy any walked right past us and just gulped and he said that's five stanley cups try and i'm never going to get a chance to shake that hand again so murphy poundstone them i'd have pounds right on them but you're talking about hockey they don't call them rings it's always cups yeah that's actually one of the things i really like about hot cup up champagne start drink we how many rings is jeter have how many rings as jordan have how many how many stanley cups that's what murph i still stand by this might be the most difficult trophy in all of sports to win what those guys have to go through three rounds of seven game series what make it four if you win the stanley cup you've actually gone through four rounds best to seven beating the ever loving snot out of each other every step of the way and the last team standing the end of all that it's a hell of an accomplishment and the fact that those guys did it as many times as they did what can i tell you it was fan boy for mark messier straight up it was it was tough for the sharks to make their only stanley cup final concurrent with the warriors being in the nba finals right the same that was tough a really did the they were overshadowed dramatically i mean 'cause people this is more of a war means simple people the in the warriors and the sharks she going warriors most of us.
"messier" Discussed on KTCK Sportsradio 1310 The Ticket
"Messier he was a better player and a clutch play a better than wayne gretzky he won a stanley cup without gretzky after gretzky went the la and of course he won the only stanley cup the rangers of had i hate the ranges i hate the oil is on the island of fat and like carbohydrate and that's my argument the nutshell best twoway player ever and he doesn't get the recognition he deserves i think he's even second in points all time to at this point guy adding yager is and i danes uh but i long argue a view of blood she was and how big game wise and now he's on the less so no one's taken messier off the top uh 25 less and you know jazz maize top10 all the time he's trying to tell you that he's that better than grass gretzky here's where i letting com downpours i tim adding gretzky may have made all those guys names right i think what tim really should say is wilson gretzky was the better player messier was the better winner enough use the better winner he won without gretzky in edmonton and then went and got the rangers their first cup and forty whatever years it was that he wasn't a better leaner vetter winter that any of dynasty islander guys even tried ga was a better winner will know best year he's got more kamar messier has got more cops and all those guys now does the mrt how many did try joerg did he get an extra one in pittsburgh trotting out one more and seventy five for best is got six that's how many for all bothers championships we got sex i'm like michael jordan gene in massachusetts on the hub hey what's up guys how're you doing the longtime call man uh for uh just wanted to talk about the need to adapt forming thanks lesson of what on way to end the air to have some clown call lobbed dropping bombs on the air okay so guess what happens boom array st louis that as the most horrific way michael i don't understand needs fee pool calling all the time with their abusive language can't we all gis clean out our mouths thanks originally the question was he wanted to talk about the pats in steelers though like everybody else the bats and.
"messier" Discussed on KQED Radio
"That you know the earlier think about using military force chances are may be the less force you might lead but also the less legitimacy they'll have because the predicated is less maybe at the beginning his lesson heroin and are a yeah in other words this is the challenge i mean if you look back at kosevo the intervention that the new administration carried out um that was relatively speaking by the standards of mass atrocity in history at least was relatively early and the complaint that a lot of people had not not unreasonably was wall in a what had they what had been done knin was a lot of repression you know some disappearances but rwanda was eight hundred thousand people murdered in one hundred days kosevo was you know a small number here they're whatever it this is the argument that was made at the time and so it's really hard to build a case for legitimacy uh internationally especially uh early on then the later it goes as happened messier under guiding in syria then the messier it gets in the more factions but look i the reason i i mean the deliberations on syria were very heated throughout the administration but they were not heeded because anybody on either side of the argument was dogmatic that if their course were pursued you know somehow that we had the answer like if you know mr president if you only follow my fivepoint plan i mean it was so fraud and that russia was serious patron meant that nothing you did militarily in syria would have been legal plea speaking under international law because international law requires uh the permission of the un security council in russia's veto over uh on the security council so that's a whole piece of business and a set of collateral effects that then if it doesn't go well y you know the allies you have on the front end pretend they didn't know you uh you know bowed while they were urging you to do it what we saw when at present obama did decide to use force in the wake of this hearing chemical weapons attack the socalled red line being crossed and a very dramatic way was that the bottom fell out in this country in terms of public support so that the a lot of the republicans who had supported the use of force prior even to this big gas attack and then when immediately when the.
"messier" Discussed on Stuff Mom Never Told You
"Which the title is cited says there's an evolutionary reason why manner messier than women and where calling bull on that one taker doubt argument argument but to be clear from a marketing perspective i i have a logo that is a circle for my company like i get that i am drawn to maybe circular or spherical i don't know lip gloss like the eos evolution of smooth lip gloss but that doesn't mean i don't like stripes and i share his held on think it means that women are cleaner than men i would even argue there's a little bit of a novelty for everyone when something comes at a small circular package like those chocolates ferreira rochet yeah about it screams like elegance delightful ever yeah i mean this is not a gender thing as far as i'm saying but this is totally her argument and they take her down in the most hilarious of ways in the articles sort of critiquing mosses book they right let's forget about all those small details that men obsessed over in the technology masculine rolls in which they flourished like science it and mechanics and just get to the truth of the issue your boyfriends not picking up the scattered cushions the the throw pillows on your on your couch because he doesn't really fancied doing it if it means a lot to you you should probably just ask them to clean up after himself and i'm sure he'd oblige if he doesn't it might be time to get a new boyfriend for an entirely unscientific reason okay i hate this i hate this so much let me tell you why.
"messier" Discussed on Hollywood Handbook
"Um mark messier is that his last name come on it it's as mees us i ir hey i was never a guest on this show we better do something about that right now so mark messier asia oh sorry we had was in an american moves talking the him he was going to lose about he had been listening to the show for a while and he'd been it's good to come on the heels of the jessica william aware it is this was we did not make the timing work with him i still other there was a chance that he would show up because he had been and i've been saying like oh it's good for the two hundred that'll be so fun y'all to have marred we didn't want to waste it we have a great he's got such a fund energy yes and we have this great sort of thing we do with him uh i how do you describe it his it's like it's sort of this um playfully antagonistic relationship he ever doboy say yes it's a choice i mean a honor oil to china in went to use it yeah yeah it still boys where we you and i did off the show on the doboy of doing yeah because they announced the three of us we we we have like a we do dough boys with messier a little bit as you are about food it's just about our relationship that's what people come for got it does it makes me think marindola boys did a bad thing with like all those people recording messages for them including us i know and where there i know today ask you to do that here out themselves yes they had us bela congrats on your hundredth were i just did that novel.