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6/30/20 - Community organizer Vaun Mayes was arrested for a warrant violation, now released

The Mark Belling Show

2:33:52 hr | 1 year ago

6/30/20 - Community organizer Vaun Mayes was arrested for a warrant violation, now released

"And. CARE. Good afternoon Milwaukee. This is the mark belling late after ill and Xiao on newstalk. Seven thirty W I S. As I'm saying now just about every day. Just because you see something just because you don't hear. Something doesn't mean that it isn't there. This is becoming tour and tour because of the double standards that exists in our society and also. Accommodation to the follow in two factors. There's that unwillingness on the part of many people on the right. To Express themselves at all right now. Because of the incredible backlash that they get. We just did a story about the harassment of an incoming Marquette University student for daring to put together a small tick tock video in support of president trump. where? Others are threatening to beat her if she actually gets the campus. So, there's that many people simply are keeping their mouths shut for fear of the kind of retaliation. That will occur to them if they simply speak out. And secondly. The ability of other people to engage in speech and conduct that simply breaks all the rules, but goes unpunished. Nobody is a basic example here. To illustrate this point whereas as to where I'm going. Let's imagine. Nine people decide today. They want to March down the straight. Because, they're appalled that. We still have abortion clinics in Milwaukee. Could be anything but I'll just grab that as a cause. Could be anything. March down the street because they're hacked off that the police cited forcing traffic laws. Maybe march down the street because you have. People should have fireworks all night. Who Does whatever the causes? They decide to take it of March down the street night of. Everybody knows they're not going to be allowed to do that. Everyone knows that. Imagine for example if nine pro-lifers, let's go to the affiliated butcher shop on fire. Well, what are the bigger abortion clinics in Milwaukee? Let's imagine the pro-lifers just decided to stand on the street and block the traffic and proud on fire well, and there are nine of them. Everyone knows they wouldn't be allowed to do it. It's just common knowledge. You would not be allowed to do that. But if Baden maze grabs one of his megaphones and Frank Nettie grabs. What of megapode? And Koetter, fifteen or twenty people hold up black lives. Matter signs. They decide to walk down the middle of fire. Well, everybody knows nobody will do anything to stop them. Everybody knows that. And everybody also knows that there's almost no limits to how far you can go it uttering utterly vile, hateful and threatening things. If you come at it from a leftist perspective right now, whereas if you say anything from the right like all lives matter, your life is essentially over, and you have no public future at all. So, it's a combination of the too. Many people don't want to put up the backlash and secondly lefties just more much more emboldened right now to speak out. This can create a misperception. Particularly given as I talked about all the time people react. Fire were strongly to that what they say. And that what they hear, especially what they say that if somebody simply tells you, something is going God. So because you're only seeing and hearing one kind of expression. It can lead people to believe that that's the only attitude that exists anymore. And that's why. The parallels between today's liberals at historical fascists are very very strong. There's very little to differentiate the brown shirts. The youthful in more enforcers, the youthful goon squads of the past from what we have now with liberals. Young Liberal. Here's anyone say something that they believe is not particularly politically correct at all. They will threatened with physical violence and they say that they will shut them up and they say they have no right to speak. But the fascist. That's what the Brown shirts dead that that's the entire point of the movement. If you want to win an argument when you don't have any good facts at your side, what you do, is you simply bar? The other side for making gets case. And where that occurs. Let me, use as an example. No one really knows because. We didn't do any polling and who was going to say the wrong side of this public opinion question. Nobody really knows how much support Hitler had among the Germans. Would World War Two was going know what really knows. We know that anybody who objected to Hitler so much for him. Did many simply keep quiet. That many tried to get out in. Many tried to leave especially if they were part of the targeted or oppressed groups before the rate of terror began. Almost, every brutal inhumane apple regime history. has outlawed descend and targeted by jail or murder. It's political entities. And that's certainly the case right tap to what including today Saudi Arabia. China! Iran and North Korea. By the way people are still speculating whether or not fat basis laying on a beach up there somewhere. If he's croaked off dead, nobody really knows. You could try dot body doubles the him. I mean for Heaven's sakes. They all dress exactly the same at. The whole north. Korean situation that you're talking about the back burner. I may be different. You'd need a different part of the stole to talk about. Korea is given all the things that we're focused on right now. Remember when the fear that there are th- Koreans we're. GonNa Nukus was the biggest inserted that Americans had. That's way down there on the list right now. Anyway. The point that I was baking. Every inhumane brutal repressive regime that you could have imagined. Silences speech and by silencing literally billy the lock up of the Qilya. Castro in Cuba, all of them. They can't have descent. This is what's flummoxed. Now about Hong Kong. There's essentially no real descent in mainland, China the most populous country in the world. Because nobody has the guts to express eddie descend because they know what would happen to them. Last real public uprising we saw. We. Know How that worked out. The bad guys, what? In Hong Kong people have tried to express dissent bought the combination of covid nineteen, which the Chinese gave to the rest of the world which empowered them to. Lock down their own society, and the world, being distracted has allowed the Chinese to more and more restrict the activities, and apparently the protesters in Hong Kong are dispirited because they realized that push comes to shove. They're not GONNA win. They're just GONNA. Get killed. STELLE! The Chinese have not been able to use the same brute force that they would be able to use to put down any other kind of public dissent that they would anywhere else in the nation because Hong Kong. is so modern it so visible. Everybody's got an Internet connection. The entire world would see it, but still they won't be deterred. Bad Public Relations is less important to them than shutting up descent, which is true of all awful regimes. There is no awful regime that has allowed open dialogue during the time that they were doing there up this it doesn't exist. And we see here in the United States. I would say. The only parallel. We have an American history was in the very earliest days of our country where you see such attempts right now to simply shut down to sent. This is worse than it was during the so called McCarthyism period with a blacklist. We're going on the red scare. Scare was going on at which people who were left of center felt as though they were being tired with. The allegation that they were communists. This is worse. The only thing I can compare this to his in the earliest days of the country John. Adams is trying to hold everything together and he put in place essentially. Shut, down free speech the alien. It's addition accident all that stuff, but that was short. Live did the next thing you know his rival Jefferson in was was president of the United States said. They all kissed that made up and then croaked on the same day. which is still the most amazing coincidence in American history. That would be Anniversary of that would be of course Saturday. We mentioned this all the time. It's amazing that people don't know of because it's talked about all the time. John Thomas Jefferson both died of the same day exactly fifty years to the day after they bought side the declaration of independence. July Fourth, eighteen twenty, six very very bizarre. It's very what. Well I know, but these guys died on the same day the same day. Bizarre Anyway I digress. Because I, can't help myself. But we are really ever sense that you could say the civil war Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus. The nation was at war with itself I? Guess that we really worry but a country during that period of time because half the country was it in the country, but certainly in any kind of modern period. The repression of speech is worse now. than it has ever bet. You now, even seeing major corporations trying to get facebook to do more to slapdown speech. Companies are boycotting facebook because they say facebook isn't doing enough to slapdown so-called racist speech. And we know how the lefties define racist anything they don't like. Thus when someone says all lives matter. He's deemed to be a racist that he's lost his thirty two year job as a basketball broadcaster. Saying all lives matter is not racist, but by saying it. It was deemed to be racist. Because right now you have people simply declare anything that they disagree with anything they don't like. They simply deem it to be racist and so much for that. So this is creating tremendous. Emboldening of those on the left appeal is though they can do anything. and has rendered many people on the right, utterly silent because they're afraid of doing anything. But again that does it make. that. They're not out there. It doesn't mean that they don't have these attitudes. You pick up on a few things why you hear. Some comments that people make that they kind of here just generally in society. For instance, a number of public officials especially Republicans out of the suburbs. have been mentioning that they have been told generally not in writing, told by their constituents. How appalled they were! The same authorities that were cracking down so aggressively copay nine, thousand, nine hundred. And breaking into people's houses, because thought. That there was a kid from next door playing inside. decided to ignore all of the rules on social, distancing good health practices, and so on the protests and riots got. They hacked off people. Look at for example how menominee falls, which has a number of residents that supported these crackdowns. Look the other way and allowed. And not disruptive protests where people just decided to start urinating all over the site of a gas station just because they closed their bathroom. There one any criticism of that, but people see this edit hacks them off. But. They're being hacked off silently. But it sits there and they have this opinion. Because first of all, it's not fair, and secondly it's not American. It's very very interesting that people are claiming. That our society has been biased against African Americans at others. Out abandoning their own bias, in which other people be treated unequally. Certain people are allowed to be disruptive certain people that are allowed to violate the law. Certain people are allowed to do whatever they want. But in the meantime let's pass an ordinance requiring people to wear masks the big story of the day. Numerous Milwaukee businesses that are manning the Tom Barrett required the marrying of masks in all public places in the city. Including quite a few bars. That's a really weird. would bars and restaurants demanding the wearing of masks? How do they expect people to consume their products? Well they. They say well, you can pull it out in order to have a drake, which every health expert that I've seen says that if you have the mascot, and you shouldn't be pulling up and down, because all you're doing is getting the thing dirty. which just spreads even more germs that if you didn't have it out of the first place? So the people who will demand compliance with this will be those that will go crazy if the police go and try to arrest anybody for throwing all these fireworks that are landing on people's roofs in the middle of the night. You see the point that I think. And this sit there and many people will still on this, and they know it's not right and they know that. American and they know it's not fair that some people just get to break laws at other people. Can't even do things that are still legal. I mentioned yesterday's program. That stuff like this doesn't end at its own. Find for example. A fascist, but in which the fascist just decided on their own. You don't what we're being to me. We think we're GONNA. Loose it the whole damn thing up. No, that's that what happens. The way you get rid of fascist the way get right. They got rid of BUSA. aliti hanging upside down his I recall. You know that they hang upside down. UPSIDE DOWN TO. Remember, the Mussalini part. I guess that marriage didn't work out for. US was working well when he was in charge of his power and all of that stuff, but when they said to hang upside and then. She probably but I i. You know I tried to tell him. This stuff was all hook up with Hitler I I was against it all. The point that I make that fascists don't suddenly get religion and decide. You don't want we this fascist thing. We're taking it a little, too. Pilots Lucid it all up and bring a bill writes back in and allow freedom of expression to have an open society and let even the people disagree with us. Express themselves, and let's go back to letting people put whatever they want on social media and reading the books of their choice and so odd. It's not how it works. Unfortunately, fascist have only been stopped through force in our society, which is why we can't allow them to get any more power than they have. Because they're not gonNA, let let loose that I could allow let it lows. In fact some people are wondering if the fascist actually let's imagine biden gets elected president. He quits three weeks later. Kabbalah becomes the president of the Democrats have the Senate and the House. How are they going to enforce the real crackdown? They want our rights when they've gotten rid of all of the police. What's going to be the actual? Arm of authority that they'll use. It's an interesting question. The lefties wanted to span the police right now because they think that the police had out of their side because the police are out there, trying to enforce all laws, whereas liberals only wanted forcement the laws that they believe in the things that they feel very strongly about lake shopping the rest of us, route. Now, all of this brings me to blonde maze. You might be wondering how the Yellow Brick road got to him, but if it has. I would say Vaughn. Maze and Khalid's up there, too, but bottom as in Frank. Daddy are probably the two biggest best thawed Milwaukee protesters at the moment. As got himself arrested yesterday. And All sorts of people went out of the jail demanding blonde be freed. One gets arrested a lot. Vons fat one was under Federal Investigation replaced on probation. He's got a fence the date back a number of years. He had nitty were among those that went out on the freeway and they got arrested. One of them got stopped by the police then where they were trying to block the bridge and so on anyway. Bond as was arrested yesterday for a burglary. And the back story, and this is quite fascinating. It's an indication of what happens when we actually let the anarchists being charge. They're the ones that keeps saying. We don't need the police. We can take care of it on our own. We see how well that worked in the CHAZ zone out there in Seattle. Anyway there was this bizarre incident that occurred last week. In Which? A bunch of people on their own apparently came up with this idea. That there was some sort of sex abduction dungeon right in the heart of the central city of Milwaukee. There were reports that some young girls were missing. And then somehow the thing took out a life of its own and. Because of social media and other roamers. Many in the black community were convinced that the girls are being held against their will. At a house near the Washington Park neighborhood right around fortieth and Lloyd. The whole situation became surreal and bizarre. First of all. There is no truth daddy of it. The girls weren't there. There was no sex dungeon and play. There's nothing. But enormous hordes of people showed up here, and they were screaming and ranting, and they were convinced that one of the residents of one of these houses. was abducting these girls and using them for sexual trade, or what whatever the police kept going in there trying to figure out. Is there anything to this other girl? There's nothing out of the police went in numerous times. Nothing ever what's happening in the crowds kept getting larger and people were agitated at agitating agitating. Fascinating because the people who argued that the police are always violating our rights, these people just decided on their own to be judge and jury of residents of two houses, and they determined out of their own that these are terrible, awful people. Imagine if the police behave this way. Anyway a woman from next door. Was the way had a baby that burned her house down. The whole thing was just bizarre. What are the people that broke into one of the houses according to Milwaukee, police was bodmer as that one of these guys. That's leading all of these protests, so they picked up a burglary charge yesterday. and His supporters say reprieve on free on free bottle, the demanding that the district attorney not charge him. This is the point I make about the rules not apply to everyone. I can't just decide I'm going to be my own Kappen. Go into some house in the middle of some neighborhood of why. I'm just GONNA go in I, decided that there's some sex perverts in here and I'm just GonNa bust into their house me myself I can't do that so why? Is. But this is what happens when you start down this path of saying some people can break the rules that others cannot. And it isn't just in cities like Milwaukee. GotTa Make Fun of Cedar. Berg Cedar Berg is kind of easy to make fun of. If you know what I'm saying, actually, every community is easy to make fun of I. I could have filled in that play naval city that you couldn't make fun of you just can't. There isn't one, is there? You'll Berlet. Oh I could come up with something. I I mean I could come up with something I mean. New Berlet. Isn't that easy to well? They elected doofus mayor, who escaped on to become the the world's most Dulles talked I. Guess That's not their fault. Berlin is New Berlin is just. You're suggesting that? It's so boring that you can't make any of it. Right now boring is about the biggest thing that city could. Go On for it by the way I. Maybe I'm going to get to this a little bit later on their. This is again. The media will pick up this one numbers. Come out a month later. There is an. Bizarre I just pick up all this anecdote only. There is. An unbelievable explosion of homes being sold this week. Real estate activity. Just it's. It's nuts. that. Apparently. Ad It's anecdotes and it doesn't mean the is distributed geographically all over the board, but. I'm just hearing that. There were real estate agents that right now are. They're running around like crazy. Just you know writing offers and. There's a lot of reasons for that. That's going out his well anyway. And it's generally the communities that you call boring. That are seeing all of the activity and I think that that's again a reflection from some of the things that you don't actually hear anyone say, but the action's then start manifesting itself. But if the world seems to be going crazy, a lot of people are going to gravitate toward places that they don't think are crazy. Anyway, as I say could make fun of just about anywhere so I'll make fun of Cedar Gray Dow. Seeburg is having its July fourth fireworks. On, you would say. July fourth, but as we know, there are numerous communities that don't have the fireworks in July fourth. They had them on July third, so always been Milwaukee's deal in other communities have. Copied it but most communities have canceled the fireworks this year. Cedar Being Cedar Berg. Where the residents have not exactly gone all in on, let's lock everything down. because. We're scared to death of the COVID. They decided they're going to have their fireworks, but. This is as I say. This is just so perfectly Cedar Bird. Rather than actually say anybody who's afraid of it just goes. Stay in your house, said. Put fifteen masks over your head. Put aluminum, boil over that and close the curtains. And anybody who wants to go to the fireworks come on down to do it now. Cedar Burgers say we're GONNA shoot. Amapa we are not allowed you to help. It gets better. That only not allowing you to come. They're not saying whether shooting them off. Now. I've conflicted on this I'm convinced I could find out. First of all. All you'd have to do? Is Pilot Open records? Request Ed see what the planning documents state you care. There's no nothing in the open records law that would allow them to conceal information like this, secondly I think. That there could even be public safety concerns in not telling people at advance for something like this is going to go on. And thirdly, there's a limited number of places that you've got. Obviously you've gotTA. Shoot the fireworks somewhere. Land landed everybody's house, so it narrows down somewhat, but they're not telling anybody where they're gonNA shoot 'em off. And the reason they're not telling anybody so that nobody can gather at advance now. Knowing how social media works all you're GONNA. Need to see is five or six trucks are going to start. pull it up a bunch of people. Cops are going to start standing in a certain place in all somebody has to do is post that on facebook at everybody's GonNa find. Find out about it I. Don't know what the police are supposed to do about that. Chase everybody because they happen to figure out. Hey, this is where they're gonNA shoot off the fireworks, but that's Cedar approach so we'll have fireworks, but you got to watch him from your own house and you can't come to where they are not gonNA. Tell you where they are. But. And they do this in the name of social distancing. Corona, virus. Etc.. They had a couple of protests up there in Cedar Berg. They didn't make anybody do any social distancing on that. Now from what I tell, it wasn't much of a protest, but they had one. But none of the rules that they're applying to not let people go see the fireworks Applied Ben. If this afternoon fifty to seventy five teenagers decided that they were going to have a march for black lives matter a racial justice or Equality in society, or whatever terminology would WANNA put out? I doubt Cedar Berg would stop them. But if the same fifty to seventy five people tried to show up and watch fireworks, going off I'm guessing that they're cops are tattoo. Tell them to leave. Likewise. There are people who think that Broadway should be able to break into somebody's house. But the rest of his cat. This kite disparity where liberal activists. And Persons of Color now get a pass on breaking laws while others can't. Create just as much resentment as occurred in our country when the tables were turned other ways. Would African Americans were wrongly punished for crimes that they did not committed. and. Whites were given a free pass if they're victims of their crime were black. Both are equally American at both. Create the kind of resentment. The takes generations decades. Look at us here in the United States now. Really perhaps never get overcome. On base and his supporters apparently think because bought is leading protests that blonde, therefore immune from every law, and maybe he is a beautiful every law he he could walk with a protest side, and a megaphone down in the middle of the street and obstruct traffic and lead a march, which other people can't do so if you can do that whether he probably thinks to himself, why can't I walk in the Home Bridge? If I could walk on Center Street, why can't I walk old bridge a block traffic and if I could do that, why can't I just busted to somebody's house? Because I've decided that somebody in here is abusing children. Nobody actually was. In the meantime we've rendered our police apparently incapable of maintaining order and Milwaukee's police. As Milwaukee, police have done as good a job as at America in keeping the protests on nonviolent, a lot of cities have had far worse problems than we've had during these protests bought. People were throwing rocks and objects at police officers at that incident in fortieth and Lloyd with the police officers were tried to keep people away from a scene that turned out to be a pair of houses where nothing wrong was going God. We use the term lynch mob to describe. What happened primarily in the southern part of the United States? Where people would get riled up and become convinced that some African American that some black person had done something. In some cases they did. In some cases they were totally innocent of the mob got it rock. And they would decide to take matters into their own hands, though arrests though trial though anything they were just going to go hang them themselves. So the term Lynch mob come some no justice where the mob justice sides what they're going to do. That almost seems to be a perfect description of what was happening at fortieth and Lloyd where the mob was deciding. That you've had a bunch of children that were used as sex slaves. What again turned out to be untrue? The two girls that were involved. That were mad. Nothing to do with that other. There's nothing to it. which is wild Internet rumor. But the police in Milwaukee seem to be incapable of doing anything about it. They couldn't disperse the crowd. And so far is that Oh the other person got himself busted his Vaughn maze to break it into the house and now when they do that. People that whole, you can't arrest Bod. What would, I'd have to do to get himself arrested right now that people would be okay with literally nothing. People are aware of this. They're aware that in menominee falls. If you attack the police officers and carry signs saying that you're cops are awful. And you take. Your urinate in public play urinate on the street. Nothing will happen to you, but if you criticize the protesters, people will demand that you lose your public office like happened to Taggart. People are aware that if you're on the wrong side in a community, like avenue falls empowered, liberals will turn I'd you? But they're also aware. The menominee falls is setting itself up as a community in which people use violate all sorts of other laws, Salah they're on the correct side the left side. Now my own deal at all of this is you know. I'm kind of a free for all sorts of guy. I believe that you have to have order in society, but I believe my definition of order is a lot looser than some people who wanna live in the solitude of Montana. I believe that our strength comes in our messages. I for example think a lot of these suburbs tried to ban people from putting a political sides. All of that stuff. That's terrible. I think if you see good out a stray, you see six sides at one guy's yard. The guy next door has five signs for opera dipper. cadidate said they've all got their stuff. I think that's great. I think Oregon is peaceful. Rallying is good. I. Don't think it's good that three thirty in the morning. You honk their horns in front of somebody's house. But I think that. If you follow the laws, follow the rules. Walk it up and down the street, yelling and screaming and advocating your causing and carrying signs that that's a sign. Of A healthy democracy. I think that even people with vile points of you should be able to express them. Back when the Nazis in the clad were around, just as the LIBERACE's were around dead people at every possible side of the spectrum. Radical Leftist Atticus. Salah is killing anyone. The OUGHTA be allowed to have their say. On the other hand, the rest of US had every right to condemn their say and say you're a rotten human being for saying what you said. Free speech doesn't mean that you're not immune from criticism, free speech cuts both ways. Yeah, you could say what you want, but I can say exactly what I think about you, too. That's kind of my view of things. Pretty much has to be my ideal given. How much I shoot off my own big fat mouth here on this program. I fire away. People fire back at me. I think that law and order it should be a broad large box. But. The box does have was on the side of it. Their sides of the box there aside there are levels to which you can't go. But? Clearly, it's gotta be enforced equally. We're tearing down all of our statues in our society, which is unfortunate because many of these statues and many of these monuments. Carry with the powerful symbols that we always live up to them, no, of course not, but the point is. These were our goals what we believe it? The scales of justice. Ever see that statue in front of both I. Don't know whether any statues left bad back before they all got toward out. Just about every courthouse has them. In which the scales are being balanced and Lady Justice is blindfolded. Blindfold because the law is not supposed to apply on the basis of who it is, that's in front of you. Frank the. Is over here. Or Joe the. Homeless guy is over there. They should be judged that what they did. Not on who they are, Joe? The homeless guy should be given the same justices frank the billionaire. Have we lived up to this all the time of the United States no of course that. We've been riddled with injustice, but the point is is that. Most of us. Understand that that's wrong. Now. You have people who simply want to take the blindfold off. They want to use the power of government to repressive. Shut up anybody that they don't like. It is remarkable. That we're only four years. You're move from the left. He's having the coexist signs and the stickers on their car. Coexist that all they want to ban. Now, we all know what precipitated this. We all know what the only thing is. That's keeping everything from falling apart is trump. The left is just can't stand that they're all for coexisting. Would they had all the power? Yes coexist with us. We read everything. Then trump totted. Saluting all the power that they thought that the addity Warren suddenly they're all angry and they're hacked off. They couldn't believe that here. This guy is a beat beetle. It. Is What set it all off? I also think the thing that set most of this off was. The fact that most of trump was doing was working at just graded on people on the left. The trump was gaining African Americans support because of the record levels of African American employment that we had we actually were finally achieving the promise of moving toward racial equality by having more blacks working at port a path of developing wealth so that they wouldn't have beyond. Depend they wouldn't have to be dependent on government programs. Trump was advocating getting them out of the rotten public schools that liberals run. The piece of crap. Public Schools in Chicago and Detroit Milwaukee. The garbage dumps that we call schools. Tried to get them to quality schools where African Americans and Latinos and other poor people would develop the opportunity to get an education to get a had. This was all. To. People in their power and trump advocated all of it so. Yeah. I think a lot of its. This motivates a lot of what we're seeing right now. Nonetheless whether it does motivate it or not, the fact of the matter is is that we have a situation in which there is a desperate attempt to slapped out at every level. People who are liberals to the point that? In most communities UK P. Walkie. You can't go watch the fireworks because they don't have them. Better Milwaukee you can. Busted the people's houses and claim that their sexual perverts in their when they're not and expected. Everybody's GonNa say that it's okay. Now as I said, while that is the reality. It doesn't mean that people like it. It also. And, this is where I'm going to transition into the next segment. We do not right now, have A. Means of measuring this. What does that mean well? Just explain it. All sorts of Houston people for my brief description missed in the TV show Laurel. You didn't mention any of the good bands that are I only talked about it for forty seconds, and there's Zillion of under were down there. Eagles, the Mamas and Papas erm is basically the seat in Los Angeles Sixty Five, seventy five. They all just decided to live. That's for crosby. Stills and Nash were joining Mitchell was hanging around up there anyway. It was a show that was on epic sent all these networks. I have no idea who has what on the services that they have I. Mean I have direct TV and then like I know a couple of people who have slaying. And took me forever to even figure out what that was, and they said well. Yeah, we can watch this that we could watch that, but then they can't watch the other that nobody knows what. Who has water how you get water whatever? But I have direct TV and epochs is on their ad. I heard Laura caregivers good to watch him so to part they get. So if you have that and it's one of those things that they do on demand, I would suggest that you watch it. Pretty, good documented, but no I didn't cover every single ban. Because if I de be talking for three hours because that's the thing was. Let me! Give you the weather. It's just simple. It's going to be very warm all week highs in the upper eighties and a few degrees cooler at the lake, when the Windsor off these the lakes, beginning to warm up, so it isn't as much as it is earlier in the year for tonight, a few clouds with lows bottoming out of the mid sixty s tomorrow partly sunny very much like today mid. Mid To upper eighties inland eighty three to the lake Thursday partly sunny, slight chance for thunderstorms again operates inland a little bit closer to the lake, Friday partly sunny, slight chance for thunderstorms, Friday would be the day. There would have been a ninety trillion people out for the fireworks on the third of July, but instead we just have people shooting off fireworks their own neighborhood all. eighty six at the lake. Idiot and Linda Saturday, which is the fourth of July partly sunny. Might get to ninety on Sunday partly sunny skies, so that's the forecast the next several days very warm. Weather. I was discussing at some length. The fact that everybody knows right now that we have all sorts of rules that apply to some people, but not to others. We have gone farther than we ever have really in American history in restricting the activities of people with regard to you know sports shutdown school shutdown. Churches Shutdown Civic Celebrations Shutdown County Fair shutdown state, fair shutdown concerts because of the Kuroda virus and anybody who dares defy any of these things. The wrath that they have to face. We'd probably still the under Tony. Eras locked out. Orders had the state Supreme Court not take it away as authorities so on the one hand we have that and on the other hand. We have people just running amok? Apparently feeling that they can say and do whatever they want and break whatever law they want. And the reason that they feel that way as they cad. There's a reason people running right to the stop. Slight Stop Lights Stop Signs of the city of walking running for the Red Lights. They know they can. It's the same reason that half the people, and that's my guess I don't know what it is. There's no good way of figuring I believe that about half the people but driving in Milwaukee don't have valid driver's licenses. That's my guess. Why don't they get a driver that they don't have to? Get pulled over for driving without a license. They get their license suspended for even lager. What do. So you had that the Tim Place and with regard to the speech and the kind of sanction that's in place, not just locking people down. We are ruining their lives if they saved the wrong thing. Got Another one here you know. Anybody that does anything with a rope right now runs the risk of being accused of doing something with lynching and hanging. You. For Heaven's sakes don't try to joke about any of it on the other hand, you can say at literally anything. About a conservative, and there's no trouble you will get anything. Anything! There's no limit as lie about and claim that their child will addy thing. and. Other than the people that are still dumb enough to tell the rope jokes and say things you're not supposed to say. Everybody's pretty much figured that out. Therefore. We have a phenomenon that's in place right now that I don't think many people in the media, not even people on the right hand picked up on. But. The reason I'm here is I'm supposed to pick up then things before other people do otherwise if I pick it up on things after everybody else does. Why would you be listening to be? You'd be listening to what other backward thinking like the mayor of Creek or whatever. Who Do they have over there? What I might I don't even know what you know who? John Mercure. I mean I could make fun of it and say I don't listen to you, but but stating the obvious. How could I listen to him where they got all these Fridays? You know what I'm doing I. Literally have nothing to do everything. Shut down and I'm not doing anything, but I'm not GonNa sit home on the days I'm not working at Friday. G. Let's listen to WTMJ. What's his name. John Mercure. Somebody, told me he was doing on his show like a few days ago. What was he like? What? What's your favorite cookie or something or another? I. What! I. What? I understand I don't know. Adequate. Now that I've done patting myself on the back, because no one else will, my job is to pick up on things before others do. I believe. that. We have right now. In an impossible task for pollsters. Polling is always hard. And a lot of his I don't believe the polls. Well, in some cases, pulls are biased. The way you ask, a question will affect the response. We've demonstrated this again and again and again with abortion, you could ask the same abortion question, but where to two different ways to get very contradictory answers because people. Despite the fact, the abortion issue has been around for quite some time. A lot of people have not decided. What they think about abortion. For, example, if you stay to the government ban abortions after the six months. Many people will say no. They don't like the notion of government panic. But if you ask should would be allowed to have an abortion for whatever reason she wants. Seven months into pregnancy. The saint people will say no well. If you're. Not Allowing to do it your batting, you see what I'm saying, but then just demonstrated on the abortion question that the way you phrase the question, so that always has a problem with polling in which there could be. Misleading responses because of the way you ask the question, we see this in politician. Approval ratings depending on the words that you use. For instance if you're asked, the grade say. Our mayor or president whomever it is, and you put out the greatest fair. natively, there are a lot of people people do not agree on what fair is is fair. Let's suppose you're right. The person is fair. Is that approval disapproval? Well I know but let me what category would you put it in approval or disapproval? What? You say I guess you guess approval well if the responses are. Excellent good. Fair poor. That's how a lot of approval rating surveys go, and they lump the poor and the together on the other hand if you say. Excellent average below average or poor will. That's a better way of measuring. Always been that problem. But. Let's take that part the way you were the questions aside for above it. What are the challenges for pollsters is always building the sample. I won't get too technical here, but obviously you want to get a cross section of the public. They don't just call up the first one hundred people that they fight. They WanNa have a sample that is representative of the general population. So you have to construct the model for the sample. For instance. If you believe that in a certain states, there's thirty seven percent Democrats thirty two percent Republicans. You'RE GONNA have a survey and the other thirty percent undecided. You'RE GONNA. WanNa have sampled. It's thirty seven percent of the people that are answer, Democrats thirty two percent of Republicans at thirty percent or the middle, also if the state is eighty one percent white. Ten percent, black and nine percent Latino. Your response rate to be that, and if the state is fifty one percent female at forty nine percent male, and the same thing with age in other words, you want to construct a sample. That works out to be what the population of the group that you're surveying is. So, therefore in order to do this, you wait irresponsive. Let's imagine for example you don't get as many. Democrats as you need to get thirty seven percent, you just count the ones that you have more. That's how the policies come up and do this. I believe right now. It is impossible to accurately Paul. We saw. The train wreck that occurred in polling in twenty-six. Trump. Only two surveys came close. Raspy said was what of them there was another. Almost. All of the others had Hillary Clinton winning anywhere between two and six points. And not just the popular vote, which arguably one, but the electoral vote is well when they sampled by. For example in Wisconsin even the best polls. and. The Marquette Law Paul, his general regarded as the best of the State Head Hillary Wedding Wisconsin. The policies were wrong virtually everywhere, almost all of bad. We're ride. I'm convinced I know why. I believe that there was a segment of the trump supporters. That would not admit. Either they wouldn't talk to the pollster. Split up the sample. Or they lied. Supporting Donald Trump in twenty six hundred. was very politically unacceptable in many quarters. There for instance. Let's a badging. You're in Hollywood. You to tell some stranger on the phone. You don't know who it is. You supported Donald Trump. Again I'm not saying that's most trump supporters. Many were proud. They are the bag assured sided all of this stuff. We're talking maybe two three percent out of one hundred. But that's all. It took for those polls to be wrong. and. The sample got screwed up. Because I believe trump got the boats of at least some not many, but some people who would describe themselves as Democrats. We saw this for example in the voting patterns here I don't want it to play this forever because I want to get to the point about the polls being Ryan now. The Fox valley and Central, North Central Wisconsin. Went for trump in numbers. They've never gone for any Republican for any office before ever. That's a lot of people who normally vote for Democrats. The polling miss that I think because a percentage not many but enough to screw through off the polls. Did Not want to admit. That they were going to vote for trump, or they just decided. They're not going to cooperate. They don't trust these people. They got off the phone. Denial that's what happened. Either that or collectively all over the country. Millions of people change their mind on election day, but that doesn't make any sense because in many states, the vast majority of people early vote. Now, let's go to now. Everyone understands the speech codes. That are in place in this country. You're racist. Your Life. If you say all sorts of things that would seem to be normal things to say. There are more people this year. Who Will Not admit that they support trump that in sixteen? Remember in sixteen. Trump was controversial when he was running, but nobody thought he was going to win. The left didn't hate him. As much as they hate the hate him way more after he got any dishes, everything back, et Cetera. Pollster asked. Do you support black lives matter? WHO's GonNa say now. Now. Some people very strong in their convection. Many of you, perhaps maybe you will. Those numbers are skilled. There are people who are right now afraid to say what they think. And I don't take any Paul can correct for it. The great great great breakthrough for liberals will be when they get rid of the secret ballot when they could actually see how people voted, so they can go at bullied. Intimidate us because they see. Wow, we are nowhere near that yet. Thank God. So long as the one thing that you can do that, nobody knows who did what is voting. You will be saying. Republicans undercounted in polling right now at it is going to get worse because is. I want you to think about it. The father way. In fact, let me finish off. This is a very important point. I don't WanNa rush it. Finish it up in the next segment. News Talk, eleven thirty wins. Lane after started this by talking about the double standards that exist the video now that everybody's talking about from Saint Louis protesters. They're all carrying guns when they get back some carrying guns including. AK47 was spotted in their. Broke into a house threatened a couple that was involved. You mentioned bunch conservatives just behaving like that. And where all the gun batting lefties? In Milwaukee, you saw these clowns that are part of bigalow. Marching along with the so-called peaceful nonviolent protesters. bootle fed into this. Equality for African American movement. But again, nobody ask these questions because everybody's afraid to ask them. We live in a world that's filled with speech codes NS I state. It's affecting the ability of people to express themselves in polls, and you can't even measure what actual American attitudes are because many people will not honestly tell a pollster what they think they understand what's happening right now. To people who have the wrong opinions quote Unquote Rog. So, let's imagine. And this is the part I was GONNA. Make before the break. You get put in the booth. And nobody does. The next thing you get album to the boss. NOBODY DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT Third Day you get album of the Bob. Nobody does anything about it. You get about every day for four months. And then comes a day. In which get to strike back and nobody can find out what you did. Well that's election day. In my opinion, I just think that what you're seeing here is an overplaying of the had. That is infuriating. Many people who won't even say at allowed. When you hear people saying how disgusted disgusted they are, the communities openly embraced protesters arm an arm, marching down the streets, but then turn around and say that they can't have a county fair because that's a health risk. I'm looking here at Fox sixes website. They shamed some poor woman for going into a trader. Joe's without wearing a mask shaved all over social media right next to the as a picture of von Maze of three of his supporters, standing right next to each other all the microphones. Inches what another nobody's wearing a mask. That will there be any shaving them now. People understand what crap that is. And the more you shove them the more likely. The OUTTA Lash back in the only way that they're left allowed to do so. So, be shocked to get if the polls are completely wrong and trump gets reelected just. At if that happens, maybe it will be at one. There's a lot of stuff that's going to happen between now dead. Just. Don't be shocked by it because it will have been obvious after it occurs. If that's what happened, maybe vote. But if the polls are right, Gan trump has just as well as he did in two thousand sixteen. And in some parts of the country might even do better. who'll how come nobody saw this coming? How come nobody's others coming because you terrified? People into not even ever be able to speak. To for example, menominee falls. Call out the people who just decided to. squirt urine all over the community when we had their so called peaceful protests. You'll be called racist. Don't. TAGGART entitled complained and I'm not gonNA defend everything that they said. The resignations are demanded. Look at some of the comments that have been made by Milwaukee politicians. Nobody's calling for their resignations. Don't think people don't see this. Watch as the school curriculum start injecting all this ideology ising in now rather a moving farther and farther away. This is assuming they ever resume school. Another thing that is sticking in people's craw. Kids can go protest, but they can't go to school. People aren't going to call the school district up say I. Object to all of this black lives matter curricula being put into the schools, and being told that all of our leaders are racist. That were a terrible country. The just get matter and matter about it. Ever the only thing that you can do is vote. Don't be shocked if they vote in a way that some of you didn't see coming. Up Walking this is the mark belling late afternoon show on news. Talk Eleven thirty W Wa. We have a major and important and groundbreaking federal court ruling, dealing with elections in Wisconsin. Now I know. That sometimes people have a hard time. Keeping Track of what's what with regard to election laws because things keep changing. For example, I have been asked repeatedly. During my many calls to try to get many of the Lazy City and village clerks that we have it was constant, not all but many are. To offer. In person early voting. At the same extent that is offered in the cities that Milwaukee and Madison and another liberal strongholds where they understand the more opportunity, you get people to vote the war. People are going to vote. And people have asked me again and again and again. Why can Milwaukee have all these extended hours? Why are they allowed to do so? Why don't we simply have a mandatory? Hours for everybody in the state like we do election. They have way to get it. Get it again because it's been blocked by the courts. Oh. Well. That's turned. The United States District Court of Appeals that's one level below the United States Supreme Court. In a case that they took three years to rule on. Late yesterday. Overturned a lower court ruling and reinstated the State Law. That requires communities. They have uniform early voting hours. This is a major development. Added a certain to be an effect for the twenty twenty general election. Theoretically. Liberals could appeal to the United States Supreme Court, but there's no way they would get that case heard before November at I think there is very little chance. The United States Supreme Court particularly. The Way Roberts seems to be conducting himself right now. Would overturn the ruling. So. What we have here is the original state law that was passed several years ago by the Wisconsin legislature and signed by then governor. Scott Walker. They're put in place. A limited to win early voting can start. And made it uniform and statewide. That law is back in place. So. Milwaukee and Madison won't be able to start six or seven weeks before the election. They will under that law be able to? That perhaps run longer in the evening and so on, but the date by which the voting would start is going to be uniform and the State of Wisconsin. This is a significant victory. Furthermore, it's significant that the court of Appeals Remember. When the Federal Court of Appeals rules, they have panels. There are a number of judges that are the Court of appeals and cases are signed a three judge panels. In this case, the three judges of the Federal Court of Appeals for the Midwest. It's district seven. That's the district based in Chicago ruled unanimously. They ruled at a number of different election law cases in Wisconsin but the most important ruling. Is the one that goes back and reaffirms. That we have consisted dates for the early voting period in the state. Now. One of the things that will water all of this down. Is the fact that so many people chose to vote by mail. In the April election is we established the yesterday's program. Once you vote by mail. They're gonNA. Keep sending you ballots. So more people will be voting by mail that in the past. It is unclear to me as to whether or not. The mail out ballots will be sent during the same exact period in the same window as the in person early voting. But prior to the April election of Wisconsin, hardly anybody voted by the mail. And then tons of people did because of the concern over the Kuroda virus. Almost everybody in Wisconsin prior to this past April elected voted in person either election day, or in the early voting period by showing up at their city hall of the village and voting in person early. President trump rightly believes that the mail in voting things so susceptible to fraud benefits, Democrats. So by having so many people moving over to early voting and something that's being pushed so much by the my mail in voting rather that obviously is a benefit to them but reestablishing. That, we can't have the absurd. We had just these absurd situations here. During the early voting given the April election where you could vote in person in Appleton for like three afternoons the week before the election. That was it at a Milwaukee and Madison Fair way since. We have some well. We just opened up two weeks before there has been walkie and Madison four weeks before with locations all over the Seti. At least we will move to some uniformity with that. Again that ruling came down late yesterday afternoon, and into the early evening, actually from the United States this record of appeals of Chicago, and as I said it was unanimous. A federal district judge in Madison had struck down the law, but the Federal Court of Appeals overturned and reinstated the entire law. As I, said the court of Appeals did rule in a couple of other areas, pertaining to election laws in the state of Wisconsin is well. One of the requirements legislature put in place that was reinstated by the Federal Appellate Court. You have to live in the state for at least a month in order to voted Wisconsin. That was another one of the reforms that the Republicans passed several years ago. It was the stop. This business of people moving to Wisconsin right before the election. Establishing residents had voted here now. Some of you may wonder. Why would anybody want to do that? What's the point lead. Voting in Oklahoma. Or for that matter. What's the point of voting in Illinois? Illinois is clearly going to go for the Democrats. Oklahoma's clearly going to go for the Republicans. Both sates are heavily weighted in that side, so if you want to make a difference if you live in one of those states, you moved to a swing state where your vote matters. What's a resident? What's not a resident well? That's never been actually clearly defined. As it is right now. That's an issue that there. Many of you that listen to be right now are. You're obsessed with that entire issue. There's lot of people who try very very hard to prove that they are. Residents of Florida had not Wisconsin. You're a retiree. And, you spend part of the year in Florida and part of the Urine Wisconsin Trust me. You're trying to prove that you live in Florida. But it doesn't have an income taxes. So! Let's suppose you're in a lot of money on your fixed income investments, you know and so on. You want that to be Florida income. You don't pay income taxes to the state of Florida added as opposed to Wisconsin. And proving which state you're resited of. That's something that's been a big deal for a lot of people and. You can't just live in Florida three days and claim your resident of Florida three hundred sixty two days. It was constant, but for voting. All the states have had different rules as to what makes you a resident? What does not? And Wisconsin's law has quirks. If you're a college student. You have your choice. You can vote in your hometown where you're family lives. If we agree with, you can vote in the college, says the city that you go to college it. Let's imagine your. Somebody like John Wyatt who made the decision to go to platform, because no one else would accept him. He. went to Platt Bill now. He could voted Platt Villa. Rica voted Wa Tosa. You'll be his choice. Likewise for somebody who grew up in the state of Illinois, but it's going to school in Madison. They can voted Madison. They're considered a legal resident of Wisconsin. But this problem that we have faced in recent years. Of, people coming up to Wisconsin right before the election, claiming there Wisconsin residents then voted here. The legislature passed a law that said you have to live here for at least a month. You got prove that that means you lived here. The federal. Appellate Court reinstated that. That's another victory. The biggest win for the left east from the Federal Court of Appeals was. They ruled that an expired student. Id can still be a valid form of identification. Now in mark. belling perfect world, no student ID could be could be considered identification for voting because I've seen. How many fake student ID's that are that are out there? There's fake every kind of ideas but the student. ID's apparently are easier to fake. Maybe the colleges have got better at that, but everybody who's ever tried to drink the when they're under the age of twenty, one knows about all the fake ID's. That are out there so anyway. But thing with regard, unexpired idea is many people have argued that not allowing it expired. ID is unfair because you know there's suppose a kid drops out of college or whatever maybe this is the only form of ID you had so. The Federal Appellate Court ruled. That is still a valid form of identification for showing photo ID for boating but unbalanced. The big one is getting the uniform dates. For early voting reestablish than that one. Our side idea win. I? Don't know if that will take effect immediately for the August. Primary this coming up in a few weeks, I would assume that it would obviously the early voting for that isn't anywhere near as big a deal as it will be for the presidential election. In November. So this is the final word on this unless it's a an appeal to the United States Supreme Court added is say a significant victory. The biggest threat we have in terms of voting is, and it's the one that president trump is on and many republicans. Simply are not mail in voting is a recipe for massive fraud, and unless we can get a court ruling of the state affirming valid ballot harvesting illegal in Wisconsin. That's an opportunity. The combination of the two ballot harvesting add mail in voting for massive fraud here in the state of Wisconsin. So that is something that Republicans conservatives laugh to be focusing on aggressively. Aggressively to watch abuses that may be going odd with people filling out mailing and ballots for other people who made had even known that they were voting in other words, old Uncle Charlie. He never votes or Maybe. He is with it anymore. Somebody just grabs his ballot fills it and signs, the witness signature and sends it in and suddenly Charlie who had no intention of voter didn't even know who he was voting for has voted. One of the real problems of having election. Furthermore, there's no ballot security at all with this. In fact I'll share this story now. I as you know, we'll move, you know. I am a shareholder of the Green Bay packers. I Made Fun of it until of course I became what? Who would you know it's the most stupid thing to be a shareholder of you? Get nobody out of it. It is just a piece of paper. That I had a complete change, if thanking God that I, said that the packers are a nonprofit organization that have contributed so much the quality of life buying share you don't really make a donation to the packers by buying shares is the one way that if you can't buy, you know you can't get season tickets because there's a waiting list, and so you can support the team in that fashion and I. I completely changed my view I felt the packer pants had an obligation if they could afford to to buy stocks, Y bought stock and for Christmas Christmas present. I by Paula Scher of stocks, honest shareholder for the Green Bay packers the only actual privilege you get. Is You get to vote for? The board of directors said it's the most preposterous election you think. The elections we have. It was canceled are corrupt. The only candidates that could win the ones they put on the ballot. It's not. Born directors say the NRA or Eddie cut a group that you have to say okay. There's eleven director slats and sixteen people will run. The packers they have the exact same number of candidates is there are slots available and you can't write anybody. And the executive committee decides who's going to be on the slate for the board of directors, and that's the only thing the public actually votes. So, your vote is literally worthless. Still I can that you should do it. It's the only responsibility you have as a shareholder. You can withhold your vote. You can't for exotic I. Forget how many around there. maybe thirteen fifteen seventeen and you didn't have to vote for all of them, but if you withhold your vote. Like almost everybody would have to withhold their vote for somebody to be looked to lose, and then they'd have to put somebody else up supplemental. It just would not occur. Almost everybody votes for all of them. I I. Did withhold my vote. I withheld my vote from a guy that I withhold my vote for every time I. Vote. I won't name it now. I don't need to fight that it again, but I've got my reasons that I withheld by both Mark Murphy. The president of the TV all this crap about yet. All we've gotta let go with genuflecting of the whole thing, so I held my book for Murphy with my for somebody else. The impact of all of this is absolutely diddley. Squat I can really be happy with myself for having the two things. Still the point of it is this. Because it was a shareholder election. And they do need to make sure. That I as a shareholder vote again, not just weasel like Dave. MICHAELS is producing for us today. You're not a shareholder, right, yes. I'm an owner of the packers your dot. And but that's where it is. I have my piece of paper you tote. That's body it. You don't get any other privilege well. Think they let you actually go to the meeting this year. The meeting is virtual used to be able to go to the beach, but that even let it take like four guests. I've never gone to the beating, but I told people go up. There have a good time because a lot of tour the stadium. They yeah, they do the hall of fame tour. I've told the Hall of fame packed that. You can't even do that this year. It's all virtual anyway. because. He is a shareholder election in the same way that I'm a shareholder of a bunch of publicly traded companies shareholder mutual I'm a shareholder and Microsoft and Michelle holder and other companies also. When you have shareholder elections is treated the same way as the packers shareholder elected. When you get your ballot, you get a specific unique control number. And almost everybody who bought sideline. You can mail it back yet, but hardly anybody does that anymore. The Mail it back in older people who don't have the Internet. But the way you do almost every shareholder election for any companies you get your control number. At unless you're literally your Mailo stolen nobody. Has that control number other than me? And once I vote I the only person again. That can change that bolt and I would have to have my control number order to do it. We don't do that with ballots that were sending out to people that male in votes in Wisconsin we set about. There is far more safeguards in place for the Goofy Packer Board of directors election than there is president of the United States. Now, if I chose and they don't have. The option this year. There's no impersonating in for people who are outside of Wisconsin. The packers ever shareholder meeting every year, and they hold it in Lambofield Ed. Thousands of people show up. I forget how many thousands of people packers shareholders, but it's in. It's kind of this leading because the people who owned shares way before they did these new shareholder things they've got like a thousand shares ten thousand shares for all the dislike ones of those of us who came on in the last minute, but so the number of leading shares is not equal to the shareholders. Yet three, hundred sixty one thousand people, but it's like five million shares so I only have one share, but there's some people who might have ten thousand because they you know. They have them from decades ago, but if you want to vote at the meeting. You still have to present your control number. You can't just come in and say I'm mark belling I'm a shareholder. JUST ACID WISCONSIN? We have to show a photo identification to vote, but for the mail in. Voting. The, only all the place at all is you sign the sign the outside envelope, not your ballot and you have a witnessed side, the outside and beloved. Saying that this this person is otherwise anybody can claim that there's somebody else cast the boat for them. And proving who did it? It's very very hard to do. There's not even a control number that you put in place that could be uniquely coded to coincide with the ballot now obviously. It started giant secret. How shareholder vote said an election? It is a secret. How at American citizen votes for President of the United? States said it should be. But every company that holds shareholder election does more safeguard the sanctity of their election. The government does the same thing to insure the sanctity of elections. We hold in our country, and that's because Democrats believe in shading. If it was only Republicans that cheated. Trust me. You Photo I. D.'S DNA checks. They be put the temperature scan there. They'd be sending through the MRI machine everything imaginable to verify your vote, but because everybody knows that almost all the cheating done by the other side. Of those safeguards, anyway, the court ruling was a major step forward by having now uniform t to the dates, not the hours committed. Milwaukee could still start earlier in the day and run into the evening, but the dates will the uniform in the coming election. Thanks to the Federal Appellate Court, I really by the way former Wisconsin Supreme Court justice, and now Federal Appeals Court Judge Diane. Sites was one of the three judges who ruled in that case on the panel, and obviously since it was three Oh, she voted the right way for forty five news talk eleven thirty W I. It's time for rapid traffic I ninety four westbound. You Make Fun of. Me for becoming a packer shareholder. Somebody did but I. don't remember if that was you, but you probably don't remember if you did either. But Yeah I guess I. Always just look. Paul I actually could. If Paul would make ignore. He's all in on that. I mean he didn't even have to pay for. The I thought that was like the greatest gift you know that is your packer fat. The people who think it's stupid and I admit I changed my opinion. It's the people at I, knew a guy that bought in the round public offering. Before mine, there was one maybe. Eighty nine, ninety, one or so. There was one ninety seven, and then there was another one there about three rounds other than the wins that they had way back when they're raising money, you know at the beginning of the team, and then in the thirties, forties, fifties, and so on You know the whatever. Brown I was in whatever whoever did it before. Then the guy had the thing up the wallet I Made Fun of it now. Wow, what did you do, and so on that? Of course I became the. Does, but I that was in my case, legitimate change of opinion, in which if you have? The packers are to charity? It's not the right word, but it is a nonprofit organization, and if you believe in a nonprofit just as I believe in many other nonprofits I give to you. Ben What better way to support it. Than doing this, and I believe that since the packers are here solely because people of Wisconsin in the country, but mostly Wisconsin, it's years. Put up their money to get nothing in return just so we would have it I can afford to do it so I. Get a dead. Pretty sure Paul like that gift more than. Like whatever you gave him. which is nothing. You want to keep going. And you know what the problem is. The exchange gifts with someone. There's no end to it right. Okay, give somebody something for their birthday one year. Okay next. Should we have to do that? In both people just decide. We'd both be happier if we weren't getting anybody either said anything. Spouse kids. If you don't have kids, nieces and nephews. That's body right. I'd like to cut this off with Paul. I bet he went to my except. You understand this. He's married. It's a lot easier to buy gifts. What version of getting the gift is telling your spouse that? Go get it and that rap the damn thing besides. If that's what he's doing. That is serious cheating well. You don't. You don't think that's ninety seven percent of American meals. Do maybe doesn't work that way in my house. If you ask your wife to go get. Good just would refused. To say the least. You wouldn't think this knowing knowing the both of them, but Paul Swipe. It's apparently work compliant. Also, probably the concerned that she has not wanting him to make a fool of himself at my is the thing. And Maybe Maybe if that's what it was, it would be. A little bit of self, preservation and the whole. You're giving them hat. You're not doing that your worm. I'm a bad rapper. Rapper I'm very good. I worked in retail so I had to wrap things. I got very good at that. I that businesses the folding all of that stuff I mean. I'm bad at it. What I have noticed his nobody particularly cares no. Did. All they want to know is what I. If the choice is between a well, wrap gift that somebody doesn't like and a gift. It's wrapped by dope. Say Me, but they liked the gift. I know which way people are GonNa go? They're not going to be all. That's badly wrapped. Yeah. They'll only say that if you know they really just want to. Make you feel bad about the whole now. I do have this whole gift etiquette. They're Seinfeld's in all of this I don't think people should return gifts, and that's a minority opinion I just don't I think we did argue that once and I think you're on the side of returning the gifts, no. Or You? You don't believe guest should be returned. No I think the only scenario would be the exact same item, but a different size. Oh, yeah. Saying lately, different shirt or something like that Moore yet, okay? They bought me these plates. And I'M GONNA FRY but no use the plates to gift. And just and just live with got duplicates given otherwise just let's just ask everybody. Give each other buddy if you're asking turns his stuff back yet. I mean plus nobody ever admits this. I think you hurt people's feelings your return. They're gifted. You like people will ask them such and such. Like their gifts that I have maybe I. Don't use it then you gotta remember who that he is still like. Bring that out and set it out on the personal coming over, but but still not using it as better than returning it for something that you will I just think that. At least if they see it on a shelf or something, they'll know that you didn't just trash it. Got a sister that gave me an that Alexis. I want. I don't want. What's his name from Amazon of the basis? I don't want Bazo cities. goons listening to what's that? Things always odd I. I don't even think it's paranoid. We know they're listening. It's you know they say per quality control reasons. Where have we some have people who listen to make sure that Alexis hearing things correctly? And So I mean but I told her that I even said I'll give it back if you want, but I'm not trying to get out. I'M NOT GONNA use. Eddie of my I can do the apple one because you have to at you, do something to activate it, but the Alexes just always listening. For instance right now if I say. Alexa Turnoff wtmj anybody that's got wtmj other hosts will they wouldn't. How would they have MIATA WTMJ and he goes? To the both of them what? Alexa tell the guy in wtmj to become interesting. What's his name? Mercure. Oh suffice to say he's Jonathan Green who. Know think I made fun of Jonathan. Who would have known that that was? Those are the years of having actual competition all right? What's your traffic there? So a crash on ninety four eastbound still on. All he would ever do. Tell people where he would go on his motorcycle trips. Oh, yes. Yeah, he had a geographic memory. It seemed like yeah. There are some people in Radio Iran to traveling and if they are, they feel the need to. There's a lot of people that he could describe you know who or what business is on every corner that he ever drought traveled. That's I guess I. Remember It'd see you know what the advantage to that is. Though that chewed up a lot of air time a lot less time to after just as right now. I have chewed up a lot of airtime. Unfortunately, by case, it's at the expense of actually interesting and noteworthy things as opposed to prattling poor Jonathan in the past. They've maybe they could bring joe well. How will this Jonathan One? Hundred and thirty big break? He's you know that. He is, he still got to be better than the mayor all creek. I would think so. On the other hand you know. If they signed off during the time the Mayor Creek was on with their ratings. Go Up! Thirty. Gallons. Very, good chance the walkies bit of your required masks in all public places Marina DIMITRIJEVIC. A member of the City Council is proposing an ordinance requiring requiring the wearing masks in all public spaces, indoor and outdoor. in the city of Milwaukee, a bunch of buyer odors. Lefty bars. Put together by the PABST theater are calling on the mayor to mandate this as well. The mayor's caught in the middle on this thing because he's got the Democratic convention reduced as it is coming in the middle of August. How they're gonNA, enforce that if Biden does give the speech in Milwaukee I think it'll make a wear a mask during the speech you battle. Joe Tried to talk for fifty minutes with a mask over his face. The other thing is. The impact that this is going to have odd businesses in the city where people have the option. Of going to the suburbs, obviously, some people prefer to wear masks. Other people hate putting them on and. If for example you have to wear a mask at a grocery store in Milwaukee, but not one in shorewood or not one in. Tulsa not wanted West. Alice. You can see that a lot of people especially those who live near the line. They're gonNA. Make the decision as to where they're GONNA go. The thing that's really were to sing. Bars and restaurants supported because. Unless they're allowed to take off the mask I don't know how bar and restaurant is able to sell anything given the fact that the point of going to a bar and restaurant is to put things into your mouth. It's another one of those issues where the people that are opposed have tended to be very silent in their opposition, but once you do put these things in place. Tell them that they have no choice. It will infuriate people because you know Dogwood well that Milwaukee. Police are going to be loathed. Given. The allegations that they already are facing that. They're harassing African Americans to start arresting a lot of black people for not wearing masks. But. They're going to be under incredible to enforce the rules of regard to everybody else. You Watch. These protests may maybe one out of twenty people have a mass God. And then you see the same people that are supporters of the protests GonNa jump all over somebody because they're driving around in their car without what? Anyway that Ordinance Before Common Coastal, committee and it's going to be supported by the leftwingers in so what if they pass this thing? I trust me the people that are pushy. Get they better. Have that mascot everywhere? They are because a lot of people are going to be out there with their cell phones to see. When marine see when some of the other busy bodies see Brian wards favorite. I, just did his restaurant the other, if a few weeks ago, and now he wants to require the masks. It didn't make you put a mask on what I was paid for my dinner in there. The zillion up. That are behind this thing and a lot of this is just virtue signaling. Yeah, where for safety this that and the other thing? Again a lot of people I gotTA. Remember this and. We'll be all that hard for me to avoid do after patronized again. The places that are trying to take away my rights in my freedoms for something that doesn't have anything to do with virus prevention. We all know why well I should say. We all know why anybody WHO's paying. Attention knows that the outbreaks that we're seeing right now are very very rigid. Lead I think have a lot to do with the fact that the virus is simply surging in. Mexico and Latin America. So therefore the places that are closest to the border are seeing a significant increase there. There is still no indication that I've seen that mask wearing. Wearing has anything to do with this. In the same way that there has not been any relationship at all between states that under are under lockdown, and those that are not Illinois, which remains under pretty significant lack down still has a much higher case rate that we do here in Wisconsin where we'd had virtually nod and in the areas that have had outbreaks. It's those that have a lot of seasonal employees that come in. We've seen this even in Canada Canada's finally beginning to show some numbers, and they believe it's because of seasonal workers have come in in some cases that come in from areas in which the Bible was rather. Prevalent, Anyway the Kuroda virus thing is just GonNa, out there, and it's going to take out a life of its own, with regard to the political agendas of a lot of people in the big one is going to be when the decision is made not to reopen the schools in the fall, which I think the hidden story on that is the teachers don't want to go back. The teachers have berry sweet deal in drawing. They have laid off Eddie of them yet. That's GONNA have to start because of the budgetary problems they have at the teachers have this. In which they don't have to come to work there preparing very brief. On by lesson plan, so they bring a full salary. So. The political part of this is an element of the story. Just isn't going to go away. The point that I have been stressing as this endgame associated with this going to do this forever. What becomes in Wisconsin are virus numbers are hospitalization? Numbers remained miniscule were still under two hundred fifty. I believe I death rate continues to flatland at a very very low level. We don't have much of an issue with this virus. Here in Wisconsin at all yet. We want to go put. Ourselves dowd one. More point on this. I do not believe a mask ordinance issued in Milwaukee would be legal. It's possible they could be legislatively approved by the city council, but I'm not sure that it would be another problem that they had with regard to the state legislature. The state rule that twenty overs put in place is that it wasn't legislated now this if the city council approves it and Barrett Signs It, you could say it's legislated, but anyway. That thing is out there and it will be one more reason to create this surge of housing being sold like crazy in the suburbs you with the media will pick up on that story in about seven weeks when they notice the fact that there is an epic real estate boom going on right now. Especially in the suburbs now I'm not saying it's everybody just leaving the city of Milwaukee because. Those people would have to sell their houses, and if nobody wants to live in the city, selling your very hard to buy a house without selling the one that you already have but I just getting anecdotally from John Wyatt was one of them. The people are involved in real estate are just say all we're doing is writing operas right now, and it has surged in the last week and a half. It's just an epic thing. No real estate's everywhere in the United. States, but there's gotta be. There's gotTa be a virus component to this said. Maybe nothing more than if people feel as though they're going to be locked out in their homes for the rest of their lives. They want to be on a higher quality home dead. They cared about before, but. There's just an incredible amount of real estate activity going on, and I just picked this up. anecdotally of people sharing things be go out Eddie the poor sales sites ready to the websites that have housing listings right now. It is remarkable Hamady of them. Now offer or offer accepted in other words. The got all these pictures, but most of the houses already haven't accepted offer item. That's not a common thing, but it would indicate a tremendous surgeon activity just over the last. Several days, the more you shout, people around the less likely they are going to want. To stay with you, and as long as the virus remains primarily an urban thing, if becomes more, and we'll have a reason for people to live in the suburbs or farther out joy the excellence. Wins Mark belling late afternoon show home very few people. Question, the sincerity of the black lives matter. Don't when you have a movement that means you have a lot of people that are involved it. What I will question it is the sincerity of Mattie in the black lives matter will. Not all. The reason that that question is valid. Is Twenty twenty is shaping up. As being one of the deadliest years for African Americans particularly Young African Americans. In, the United States in a long time. And that story. You talked about low profile stories. You're making butter earlier about Howard, but he's forgotten about pace. North Korea. Try to find any coverage. Of the explosion in murders. Violent crimes and shooting deaths. It predominantly African American communities in the United States yet. We're not talking a blip it is. Roy Gary. How much the numbers have got up now I've suggested that the corona virus lockdowns are one of the things that's driving this combined with any of use of drugs, which is fueling the drug trade. Which always leads the violence, but there are many that are pointing out that this was starting the beginning of the year. In today's edition of the newspaper. Story by Sophie Carson she goes through just the number of teenagers that have been shot in Milwaukee in the last two weeks. Some bystanders, the latest thirteen year old boy. Injured in a shooting. A bystander of a shooting that occurred. One, thirty of August twenty, two hundred block of North Twelve Street, why a thirteen year old is out at that hour is I suppose a separate question? But there was a shootout and bothering a couple of people. He's hit in the crossfire. Now, the story is not broken down by race, but it is certainly a fair assumption that a significant number of the victims of these cases are African American, given the neighborhoods in which they occurred. The story goes on to say. The boy is the seventh teenager in two weeks to be shot in Milwaukee as gun violence spikes. About six PM Sunday, a sixteen year, old girl was shot at the thirty editor lack of south twenty seventh street about five thirty PM Tuesday. A boy and a girl with fourteen were shot during the unrest near Washington Park home in the fourth thousand block of West Lloyd Street. That's the situation in which we apparently can't hold one of maze accountable for anything about what? What Am June twenty second or fourteen year old boy was shot the eight hundred block of West Atkins at eight thirty PM June eighteenth, a fifteen year, old boy, was shot in the in the twenty one hundred block of North Thirty, fourth. Street around four thirty am June seventeenth a fifteen year old boy was shot in the thirty one hundred block of North Achilles straight. As I said. This is going on all over the United States. People have cited the explosion in new. York City. The numbers in Washington DC ARE ASTONISHING CHICAGO BAD. Is having a much worse year than normal edible walkie. Our murder rate has doubled. Over doubled. It is over twice the rate that it was last year. We have a very good chance of setting a record for the most killings of Eddie Urine Milwaukee history. This year. Add the majority of these victims are African American in all of these cities. Those are all black lives, but no one seems thanks they better. The fact that most of the killers are themselves black. Has To be the reason that no one wants to draw attention to this problem. Police, officers shooting African Americans and killing them remains a rare phenomenon at least in comparison to the overall universe. Of, African Americans who are being shot or shot and killed in this country. This is a real life. Terrible problem particularly when the victims are bystanders not even involved in two people shooting at one another. Edit is certainly a greater public health concern. Than, the off chance that somebody socially distancing himself from somebody else in a drugstore is going to get Kuroda virus. Yet it gets virtually no attention because. It's not a problem that you can blame about white racism. It's a problem that has a lot of other causes. And it's one that may have exits best way of being addressed. To have more aggressive law enforcement, of course, that's not the agenda at all. We're at a defunding police. Get rid of the cops environment. Now it would be easy for me to say well. We're telling the COPS to get hands-off. Stay out of central cities, and so on. That's how the verdict rate is going up, but that would be a false argument on my part if the number spiked from mid May that we could make that case, these numbers are for the entire year and they've been all year. They were up what it was cold and the red celebrating when it's warm. And as I say it is a national trend, it's manifesting itself really badly here in Milwaukee, but we're not alone. And for the people who claimed that black lives matter if that was truly, they're concerned. You would think that there would be at least some concern being expressed by DAB. About all these black lives that are being lost. And no one seems to think they matter. And no one seems to be even bothered by it. And there's been scared media coverage of it. Instead the unusual circumstance, a police officer, shooting an African American suspect. Those stories are highlighted. But the actual common occurrence, the real problem, the phenomena that is not only every day, but in every hour currence. We Ignore So, yes, I think it is legitimate to question the sincerity of those who claim black lives matter. Whether the predominant that is taking right now, so many black lives. Isn't being addressed at all. Having a march in Sussex isn't quite to address the fact that we have children. That are being shot and in some cases killed. Because they get between two guys that are shooting at out in Milwaukee. It would be nice if the people who are telling us. Oh, so loudly how much they care! Cared about that. Five, nine thousand nine news talk eleven thirty W. It's time for rapid traffic ninety four westbound, still hanging on subtilis status. She'd been busy. Yeah sort of I've just getting all of this. All they're doing is writing offers that just it's very busy. It's and it's a phenomenon that is just exploded in the last several weeks, said. People have died looking for an explanation and I just a bunch. I think it's a rates are ridiculously low interest rates have plummeted because of the actions by the Fed. There are a lot of people who are flush with cash because of the various stimulus programs that were created There are some business owners that did well because of the PCP whose businesses have recovered and then there's the. The phenomenon of if we're going to be a stay at home mode for the next twenty years, people are putting a higher priority on home. But if you wanted to borrow several hundred thousand dollars doing it when interest rates, three percent would be the time to do it or not when they're twelve. Yeah, yeah I. Mean it's just a good time to go if you if you're ready to. Make it happen. There's the the other problem is. There's just not a lot of homes for sale, so the ones that are out there. You gotta say. Got Somebody commented to me that if you go on some of the a lot of the almost every real estate company, and then there's the generic realtor dot com, and so they have all these websites. They put up the photos. Some of them put. It will put up when there's when there's an offer that's been accepted others just they'll keep it up there until the thing closes. Closes but the number of them that say contingent or accepted offer whatever I was told by people who go to some of these communities. It's three fourths or four-fifths. It's usually five or ten percent that the lead that little ass through. It's up there while there's an offer that's on this thing in some cases now it's most of them that these places are just flying out in. was telling me that you got bidding wars going on all here at people off. The asking price and somebody will come in and say. except I'll go higher. Oh, yeah, I, mean you rarely you know in in the neighborhoods that are you know? Marginally well thought of you're going to be in competition. That's just the realtors are going to tell you that. Yeah, and the other phenomenon again I've only getting this. People who are either in the business observing are telling me. that. If you look at some of these things they have, they'll have an average breach community number of days on the market. That number has plummeted. Oh has there are places that are selling the very day? That though is that the yeah I mean you know most? Well Tosa obviously I, know well. House just doesn't stay on the market. It's just if you're not there the day of You probably are not getting getting a shot at. So. It's yeah you got. Your agent had better be on top of things, 'cause. I'm told that there is a major that millennials are driving a big portion of this that a lot of the time buyers, and that's why you're not seeing usually when somebody buys, it puts another house on the market because you're moving from the one that you wanted to the new one, but if it's a first time buyer, they're just leaving a rental property and you. You know I'm told a lot of it is millennials. A lot of it is people. millennials have decided. They don't want to live in cities anymore. Because of the virus that everything else said again until the media actually dives into it, and we get hard numbers and statistics. It's just up the here, but I'm hearing from quarters that it's anybody that's involved in that business. Inspection of the financing the appraisers and they're just. Busy as possibly could be, and it's just over the last five days exploded. In Paul's wife and John's both work and real estate, and just hearing it from a lot of people that. Part of it is seasonal type before the fourth of July. It's warm weather. It's a nice time to go out and look at houses. Things at you know so many people that are in either work at home or not work mode, but they have cached of again. They've got time to do it. And I think there was obviously a lot of business that just didn't happen for a couple of months. Clearly, so there was just a lot of pent up demand, waiting to finally feel comfortable. What about things that I had heard researcher? It's correct is that many people didn't WANNA list because they didn't want strangers walking through their houses germs. You know there are many people just decided that the whole Kobe thing is over hyped and clearly that will be Ed's on because the listening you know the sale activity is really really striking. Hey, so many people are just buying off the Internet that they'll the what look at forty nine pictures on the Internet and do this that and the other thing they drive by, and they don't really need to see the inside. They feel comp especially with younger people who buy cars that way I mean, I can't fathom. That way on the other hand I, could never them by tired I hadn't test drove before and younger. Younger people are perfectly comfortable with it. It's just a different. Attitude and approach on the wolf thing too much money to invest for something I've only seen online I suppose. For some people. That's all they need all right. How's track? We've got delays working themselves out on ninety four westbound from an earlier disabled, that was near. Sixty, eighth, street on forty, three southbound, the rock freeway, just past one hundred Twelfth Street. You've got a broken down truck on the shoulder. That is causing quite. As you come south of highway one hundred from the Lynch Superstore in Burlington total. Traffic Center newstalk eleven thirty W. I I'm John Y. A walkie. This is the mark belling. Late afternoon showers news like eleven thirty W I S. Covering. The United States Supreme Court right now. is almost becoming a matter of psychoanalysis rather than journalism. Everybody's trying to figure out what John Roberts. He's doing. Now what he's done is made himself the only member of the Supreme Court. What do I mean by that? Whichever Way Roberts goes. The court ends up Rulli. We've had an. We're in this flurry of the end of June term. Of Court, which is why all these rulings are coming down right now. That's the Supreme Court works. A series of five four rulings. In some cases, the so-called conservative side prevails in some cases, the so-called liberal side prevails, but in all cases the side that John Roberts is on his prevailing, because he's the fifth vote. For the last number of years, the United! States! Supreme, court. Seems to have had a five four conservative majority. Sort of there's always been a swing boat. For the longest time it was Sandra Day O'Connor. More often than Naci voted with the conservative side, but it was close. Then after she left, it became Anthony Kennedy. Who More often than not voted with the conservative side. Maybe, a little bit more Qatar did, but not always. And of light, it's now the chief justice John Roberts. There are occasionally cases where the court will go seven to it either direction. Where two of the war moderate liberals joined the Conservatives or Two of the more moderate conservatives joined the liberals. But otherwise it's fair to say that you have four solid liberal votes on the United. States supreme. Court right now and four solid conservative votes on the United. States supreme. Court. And then you have John Roberts. And, say reporting, and this is becoming more matter of psychoanalysis that it is a journalism. As for any type of legal. Here none seemed to exist. Several in just the last couple of days. One being cheered by conservatives. The Supreme Court ruled. In a case of Montana to get when the Supreme Court rules, it affects everybody everywhere. There is the higher court. It, dealt with a school choice case of Montana. Can you stop religious schools? Some taking part at school choice programs. The court said no, you can't. That means that if there's a school choice program at any of our states, religious schools can participate in the same way that private non religious schools could participate. That's a major victory for religious freedom. Obviously add since most private schools are religious in nature. It opens up school voucher programs. Our school choice programs pending the term of your choice all over the country to these religious schools, it affirms that states like Wisconsin where religious schools have always participated in school choice. That there's not a legal way to prevent that from doing so. In other words in this case with Roberts. Ruling with the majority of the court made a significant breakthrough conservative issue. But that the other hand you have the Louisiana abortion case. Robert's not only rural with the Liberals. Roberts appeared to have created a significant argument with John Roberts. In the Louisiana case. The court ruled. And there's a parallel here to a law that we had in Wisconsin. That a Louisiana State Law that said. The only doctors that could park farm abortions had to have admitting privileges at a hospital. The court on a five four basis struck down that rule. Why is the admitting privileges component important? Many abortionists do not have privileges to work at a hospital. Because all they do is abortions. And the whole point of abortions is not to take somebody to a hospital and save their lives. ABORTIONISTS are trying to kill people. You don't like the take out if it's actually what the reality is. There isn't that much reason for an abortion have admitting privileges at a hospital. They're not out there. Treating patients there aborting. FETUSES OR BABIES? Whatever term you choose, US? So it's occurred too many opponents of abortion that one of the ways that you can restrict abortion clinics is. To require that the doctors said we still do require the abortion be performed by a medical doctor that they have admitting privileges at a hospital. In terms of the medical necessity for those laws. You can make the case that if. An, abortionist injures the mother. Dora get abortion, or if the baby starts to survive in the decision is made not to kill it after birth. that it would help if the doctor that is presiding over this procedure has the ability to go to the hospital with that patient and then treat the patient there. It addition to that most decent doctors have admitting privileges at hospitals. What kind of a quack couldn't is not allowed to go into any hospital? For in other words, virtually all doctors. Have admitting privileges somewhere. And indeed in Louisiana after they passed the law, some of the states abortion clinics close because. The abortion work there didn't have the ability to practice in any hospital Louisiana. Supreme! Court struck down the law five four. Roberts joined the foreign liberals on that side. What's fascinating about this is? This case was virtually identical to a case that came before the court from Texas. That case from Texas. In which Texas also. Held that abortion providers have admitting privileges at hospitals. John Roberts was on the court that. Eddie wrote the other way. Robert's rules with the minority in that case saying that the Texas law should be upheld. So trying to figure out what John Roberts's legal philosophy appears to be? An Act of futility. The does it appear to be one. A couple of his other recent rulings don't seem to be grounded in the law at all. They simply seem to be crowded. And John Roberts doing whatever John Roberts, watch the deal. President Trump's executive order on DACA. The dreamers. Roberts came up with in. That case was just legally bizarre. Barack Obama issued an executive order. Trump issued an executive order repealing Baba's water. Robert held. The trump couldn't do that. Roberts held. The, listen to this and say legally. There's no concept of this that makes any sets. Roberts held that yes Obama did not properly draft his rule. But he argued that trump in repealing Obama's improperly drafted rule didn't properly repeal it. And other words! Roberts rule. The trump does have the authority to reveal repeal Obama's rule, but he didn't do it the right way. But he acknowledged that Obama's rule of the first place. Was that the right way? Clearly Roberts is just making it up. He's trying to punt this decision until after this election. He didn't want the Supreme Court to affirm. Trump's order that Obama's executive order with regard to the dreamers, these are people that are brought to the United States generally is very very young people, and whether or not they have a right to stay and are immune from prosecution even though they were illegal. Immigrants by being brought here as non-citizens of the United States without regard to your position on this Barack. Obama didn't change any lie. Just draft at an order and said Hey, here's the law. Which the court knowledge is! He had no right to do. So, trump responded to what Obama did by coming up with his own piece of paper. Say Hey, what Obama put out his invalid. John! Trump can't do that even though he acknowledged that Obama should not have been able to do his thing in the first place. It's literally like the following. Your neighbor plants a tree. Right of the property lied. Courses. They were can't do that. It's how the property lot it's on both your property. So the other neighbor digs up the tray, the car comes back and says well. You can't dig up the tray. Will you're just rewarding the guy doing the first thing that you acknowledged was the illegal. So clearly, there's that illegal philosophy behind John. Roberts stated in this case it was again purely political. And this is where the psychoanalyzing is coming and rather than any kind of journalism. What's Roberts up to? He seems to be showing no respect for precedent. Sometimes. That's the case with Supreme Court justices. They simply do not want to overturn earlier rulings, but Robert, overturning not only earlier rulings overturning his own rulings. Doesn't appear to have anything to do with a view of limited government or expansive government, because he tends to go both ways it does it appear to have anything to do with religious freedom because he's gone both ways on those types of issues, and it doesn't have anything to do with whether or not is John Roberts sell out in just the lefty, because in many cases, he remains a conservative. So what's Roberts up to add therefore I'm the same psychoanalyzing. Else I think John Roberts is at an ego trip. If John Roberts simply rules the conservatives each time. You have a court. That's five four conservative, which is. The people kind of until a few weeks ago. Thought we had. John Roberts you just. What Five Papa John Roberts being unpredictable and bouncing back and forth. John Roberts is the biggest deal of the world because whatever way he rules weds. If there was some underlying legal principle where. Roberts was just not going to overturn anything. In other words, he upheld every law that pretty much came whether it's a liberal or Conservative law because he was really showing judicial restraint in not believing the courtship. Intervene you could at least say right A. Rod. That's a philosophy. But there's no thread that links any of these rulings that Roberts comes down, with. Robert is not the first case we've had. Of A, judicial nominees to a high court. That appeared to be conservative when chosen and then drifted left once on the bench. You ought to pack the court with Liberals Nexen. Intend to. I think John Paul Stevens make one of the most liberal justices of recent times, I believe. He was Gerry, Ford, but again it was a republican nominee. Nixon put Warren Burger. Who was somewhat conservative? He put on Rehnquist was somewhat. But not all of Dixon's appointees. Especially at the lower court, the federal courts of appeals turned out to be conservative at all. On, the other hand Kennedy put a couple. Right wingers side. The most defining liberal of the second half of the twentieth. Take Yeah. I'll see that. Maybe, some would argue William. Douglas I would say Warren because he was the chief justice earl. Warren was put on by Eisenhower. He authored almost all the major liberal rulings of the second half of the twentieth century. But. In the last twenty years. All courts have gotten more politically polarized. Democratic governors appoint liberal judges Republican. Governors tried to appoint conservative judges. During elections. Judicial appointments are a big issue. Many of us on the right where obsessed with this, you'll recall the president trump himself when running. He had a bend over backwards to prove to conservatives. Like may remember this. He came up with this list of nominees of the types of people. He would consider record appointments. And most of US said. Wow, that's a great list. We were impressed and less trump would just make it and. It was a strong statement to the right that look I would've put on conservative judges. And indeed trump's appointments. have been very good unfortunately. He's only had the to to the supreme. Court and you know you either have to resign or someone as the die. It's the only way you get an appointment, and it's only the nine there and trump is only in one term. Obviously, a president is served. Two terms can shape the court war that a president who serves one term just for the obvious reason that it eight years. You're likely to have more vacancies than four. Prom supplies have been gorsuch and capital. They appear. There's Waddell at a case here or there, but in almost every case courts. Jim Cavenaugh have voted. And what would be perceived as the conservative side? If you wanted to find the conservative side, just say Clarence Thomas! He's probably Thomas and Alito are undeniably the most conservative members of the court. Thomas and Alito are on the right. They'd be what Ruth Bader. GINSBURG is over there on the left end I. Guess You could probably throw in Sonia. Hard for me to say so in your soda they are. Over there as well? But Cavanaugh in Gorsuch our nominees that I would say most conservatives are almost entirely. Happy with. Robert's came under W. Bush, and in fairness, the w Bush almost all conservatives were related when Roberts was chosen including May. His entire legal track record of the Court of Appeals, and so, what had been conservative and Roberts didn't start this drift really until trump became the president. and. That's why the psychoanalyzing is fair. Is, he just trying to be a kingmaker by bouncing around here or at it's happened. Once you get into some of these courts. I don't know if it was off the era on the that I said this. I think it was on, the might have been talking to John. It's almost impossible to find. A court nominee put on by a liberal who over the years moves to the right. But we have had again and again and again and again and again court nominees either rudders, conservatives or are appointed by conservatives who drift to the left. Anthony, Kennedy for example, he drifted a little. Sub Case. David Suit Drift alleges the bad appointment George, the first Bush George H, w Bush he's the one that put on David Suitor, and he was being obstructed by the Democrats, so he chose the guy that didn't have much of a track record. No Real. Long history on the Court of appeals more of an unknown someone that was presumed to be conservative, but you couldn't tie late at this right thing this right wing thing this right wing thing- at it was a guest based on the statements that he had made that he was conservative, and he simply fooled people. suitor didn't drift left. He just was from the. He was essentially the left in the beginning. He authored the Kilo decision the one that said you can condemn and take away somebody's property just because some city wants to put in a driveway somewhere. The cases of for example and Obama appointee shocking the left by turning out to being the next Clarence Thomas. Fast. We. Have this concern now in Wisconsin. There is real concern. That Bryant Hagit Orange Disaster. We, don't know it. It's too early to say for certain. But Haggard who was elected while running as a conservative in a very contentious election last year nineteen. Has On three major cases rules with the Liberals. Including the ruling in which the State Supreme Court struck down. The Twenty Eighth Andrea Palm Order. Because our side one many people did not notice. That haggard on joined at the to liberals on the court in objecting to that ruling. The reason that's important is Daniel. Kelly leaves the court in one month August I. If Hag or actually left yet means the lefties have a four three majority on that date. Now, if these were simply aberration had hagedorn is a conservative is gonNA stray once in a blue moon. Will that it's still a four three conservative. bought. There's reasons to be concerned that haggard on pulled the wool over our eyes in as a sell out again i. just say concern I didn't say convinced of it. In the case of Roberts. He just appears to be to be a dilatot doubt. Adiba a better word. Oh, be I'm John Roberts, which wherever will I go this? Because as I say, there's no underlying consistency that you can come to link while he was left in this case a conservative on this. What do they at least have not that? When you see a guy. Ruling the exact opposite, he did in a virtually identical case for years ago. That's a guy who doesn't have a philosophy. That's a guy who is all about himself. I'm John Roberts now in the psychoanalyzing part. Some people believed that what Roberts wants to do is move the court to the right, but slowly, and that's why he didn't WanNa rule to straight. You know in favor of this abortion law the because until you can get, there are some people who believe trump is. Is reelected. He can get a seven to court. That's what Roe versus Wade get struck down. The John Roberts isn't GonNa, do it by anything other than an overwhelming majority, and until then he's going to lean for the side of uphold you know upholding abortion rights until you have an overwhelming majority, Tanaka. Doubt and the people who are arguing the sitting in their psychoanalyzing. Let's imagine Joe Biden gets elected President Kamala. Harris is the vice president. They put a couple of lefties. Always simply go to go back and reverse all these abortion rulings that were done now, and that's Roberts is trying to keep us in a holding pattern. That's simply all psychoanalyzing and trying to get inside his head because you can't use it, go off of this. Type of actually trying to figure out what his legal reason against and the opinions that he's authoring are much. What he wrote of the DACA. Ruling was an embarrassment to jurisprudence. It'd be embarrassing. That came out of some federal district. Judge sitting there in Green Bay. Well. The president has the authority to issue executive orders. The President has the Authority repeal other presidents executive order just and the exhibited executive order for Barack Obama was wrongly drawn, but I'm still like. Let trump withdraw I become. By fifty-seven news talk eleven thirty W I. It's time for rapid traffic. Looking at slow speeds on ninety four eastbound through the Stadium Interchange Past Twenty, seven, hundred, also roadwork, keeping you crowded on southbound I forty one slow through those orange barrels as you approach the I forty one southbound merger with us forty-five in Richfield area from the Lynch GM Swiss Great August benefiting from the Lynch. GM SUPERSTORE IN BURLINGTON total traffic center now if Biden winds and he makes Kamala Harris vice-president and she takes over February fifteenth. Obviously, this is all bad. would be the greatest thing in the world if she nominated some lefty to be out in the United States Supreme Court, and that person turned out to be a suitor who ruled for the right because that would drive liberals absolutely crazy, but that if that would have as you say. Not Happen. That's why people wonder why people like me are so obsessed in Mike Goi, under these going at these people with a microscope, you may recall I. Don't remember her name right now, but Bush nominated the woman to be called the church lady from Texas, and she was a flawed nominee, and a lot of were not convinced she was. What was the name? I don't I don't think that's right Anyway whomever it was I think she was. She was his legal counsel in Texas and I believe I'm not sure of this I believe. We ended up with a Lido as a result after she was with Rod. Visit Halina something Halina. Thinks Oh. Well, it doesn't matter. The point is is that when you have power for instance? When Walker was making nominations and appointments, and now with trump in place, it's not enough to just say Oh, I trust trump to get it right. You GotTa make sure these people are on there for life because we have even with every indication a John Hughes at the federalist. Society for crying out loud. Harriet Myers that was the orig-. Many conservatives succeeded in getting her blocked because we were not sold, she was sufficiently conservative and as I say, I believe the end result was a leader who don't work out to be A. Leader because of that. Yeah, we gotta legal because of Harry. Her And, he's brilliant. Yes, so that was in the case of conservatives who put our foot dot. It's no no. We gotta get this right. Now is a good thing because Harriet mired in who knows navy. Harriet buyers would have turned out to be as strong as Samuel Alito was, but there wasn't the same background that she had had. That would lead. Get a no that she was somebody that was simply close to Bush and. That wasn't enough. Branding here in terms of the impact on the election campaign, it certainly again means the next nomination to the court is going to determine. The direction of the court and the presidential election. I mean when you consider the age of this cord. There could be three vacancies easily. I repeat a Ginsburg ibn. You gotTA. You gotta give her a do I've she's close over forever and ever and ever and she's hanging in there. It's almost like she's got this will. She's not going to let Donald trump either wide. That replaces her. That's true, you know. She's not the only one that that that is up there. That is up there in years of. You Know Clarence Thomas is over seventy years old right. Now Alito might be pushing it WHAT LIBERALS OF The to the top. Brier. SORTA way aren't Kagan around area. And then there's the other thing you know. Just being gaulish. Die. And so odd, but you imagine three given a court. That's as close as this. What is to the point that John Roberts can wobble it either way depending which way he goes, if the next president has three appointees that keeps the court, Maybe fifteen to twenty years, and at least people need to remember the entrust me the liberals Iran. This those of us on the right have been tried to drill this into the heads of some of our people in is set for the longest time I think. Half the people get it and we see it now at the State of Wisconsin. The next vacancy on the court is filled by a Tony Eve's appointment, and that means that just aside from. From the fact that best case scenario it goes to four three. If you still can't get it, on is one of the four conservatives I August I the moment that one of those four leaves Ebert spills it by a feels it by appointment, and that person serves until the next year in which there is no state. Supreme Court election. Depending on the calendar plays out. That could be a matter of years with the Supreme Court is filled by election, but when there's a vacancy, the governor appoints until the next year in which there's no supreme court race on ballot, and for the people that were so willing to you on their way away to Scott Walker losing. We see again the put. I mean imagine if we lose the state supreme. Court! And right now the united the United States Supreme Court is not reliable. It's a coin flip and it's just a matter guessing game which way John Roberts gotta go in. There's nothing even in the nature for instance. People are handicapping the Louisiana well. We know how we roll the Texas case. It's the same thing you'll go the opposite. With himself all right? It's six Oh three news talk eleven thirty W. Eleven thirty wins. Mark belling made afternoon. Show that's to this story is one of those cases where. You got one bunch of lefties argued with another bunch of lefties. Could have like the guys get into like see. Two women get involved in a fight in a bar you know. You don't care who wins. Just want to sort of watch it well. Here's what we have here. The Milwaukee box and the democratic. National Committee are at odds over the DNC reneging on plans. They have the convention at the Fi-. Serve for. Credit again by sue broke the story and J. Hotline Today. The two thousand twenty democratic show host committee in May. Failed to make a one million dollar installment payment, they have a seven million dollar contract. They're gonNA. Pay The the seven million dollars to hold the convention at the Pfizer Form, and they didn't make the payment in May. According to Dan by story. The Bucks President Peter Fagin. Threatened to declare the Democrats in default. Threatened to take them to court and threatened to put out an alternative attraction at the time that the DNC was being held next star it other words. The bucks are playing hardball saying Look You. Don't pay us what you want us. We'll sue your democratic butts. And we'll put out an attraction that's going to go out of right at the very same time you're convention is a curry. Bagan also suggested according to Dan Bicy- story that the butts would withdraw three million dollar donation to help underwrite the convention. Now I want you to think about this problem of it. When Peter fagin threatened for the Democrats reneging on their payment to Milwaukee in May. To hold a competing event at the Pfizer form. Remember the tithing. What did I say? This was May. But Are we? How last jude? Could you think of any competing political event? That might come to mind. Yeah the Republican National Convention, in other words. The bucks played hardball with the Democrats saying. Hey Remember at the time in May. President trump was looking for a new place to hold the Republican convention because the problems he was having Charlotte. Apparently the bucks a day. You don't give us the money you always DNC. Maybe, we'll invite the Republicans and trump to come in here. None of this obviously happened the bucks. Owners are the main three owners of the bucks are all major contributors to the Democratic Party. But it's certainly an interesting bleeping match. I want to tell you about something. We posted on belling DOT com. Maybe we can get into it in greater depth later on this week, but there is a powerful piece set. He's been posted. Online, By one of the world's leading climate activists a major environmentalist. His name is Michael Shellenberger. He has been a strong advocate of reducing carbon emissions. And addressing climate change for the last number of decades. He has painted opinion piece. In which he is apologizing for the apocalyptic threats that have been made by other climate activists, including himself, saying that we have exaggerated the impact of the planet of Climate Change. He still says fighting climate change is important, and he still believes that man is causing climate change, but he believes that the statements threatening human civilization. The temperatures got a rise by several degrees that they have been overstated distorted and out now lies. This is a state coming from one of the leading climate change, activists and somebody who still wants to support global emissions. He is apologizing. For the lies and distortions that he says his side is put out. That pieces up for those of you who would like to see belling dot com at six twelve at newstalk eleven thirty W I. It's time for rapid traffic forty-three second earlier about the number of times it. Liberal. Appointed judge becomes a conservative like non. Well this is a rarity. How many times does a liberal commodity admit? I was wrong and I apologize for all the. We've got a lot of conservatives on our side. Go on the apology tour at all I I've and light now. I've seen the light this is this is an actual rarity global warming opponent, saying I Apologize. We were full of crap out a lot of this stuff over the years. It's a year of all kinds of strange things happening. Yeah, this is this is the ultimate weird year. I mean the the people that are in favor of rules and mass at the lefties. The people who pass the joints out of the people who believe in free sex, the people who are opposed to any guidance against proper behavior during the AIDS crisis now demanding that we wear masks everywhere in public in Milwaukee. Eleven thirty W I S and mark late afternoon. Show void where still some interesting content. I'm having some people question the thesis that has been offered. Many people predicted. The brewers are going to lead Major League Baseball at home runs this season. They might have a guy out of the yellow sheets over three hundred, but everybody's GonNa had balls out of the park. I've had a of people question how that can possibly be given that the brewers have lost their number, two and number three homerun hitters of last year. In fact does it seem like last year's baseball season? I've made the team to beat us in the last game won the world series that that seemed like fifty years ago? To thing who was the number to lure home right hit last year. It has stock as yeah, but by that that seems like a long time ago two. And themes was third, and they're both obviously God on the other hand. The brewers have abseil. Who is nothing but power and young, and maybe the next Christian Yelich type the comes in. He'll take one of those slots in the lineup, if not the position the first base, but they're gonNA probably platoon to guys over there of. Smoke is probably hit his least as many home runs as Eric. Fame's dead. And people also forget that cast hero hit nineteen home runs last year in eighty four games. He really only played half a season, had he with the brewers all year? He might have hit thirty five and he's got a year under. Is that's why played eighty four games? He's got a year under his his belt. The brewers last year had two hundred fifty home runs at one hundred sixty two games at other words, just S- teeny weeny bit over one and a half per game. I would say in a sixty game season if I was going to set the over under we're half the people would say lasted. Half the people would say more a hundred. And that could be enough to lead all of Major League Baseball. The problem in terms of their headache is. I don't know who anybody WHO's GonNa get base because all these catches swing for the swing for the fences, a very interesting story developing today. That whole story about? The telephone call the Tony Eggers was making with. Robin Boston Scott Fitzgerald who Republican legislative leaders in which that call was recorded. We learned about it when. The newspaper Jet When the Journal said no made an open records request for recording of the call. Obviously, somebody kept them off at that call. which record. How else would they know to seek the recording? Either says he was not aware the call was recorded. And Boston Fitzgerald didn't do it. This is a felony in Wisconsin. We're a party consent state personnel. It's bad form to record a call without telling the other people anyway, but legally as long as one party sense. It's okay. But Ebert said he was not aware and Boston. It's Gerald didn't do it that means someone either staff did it and committed a felony. Today online jazz online is reporting that there is no public record indicating that anyone authorized the recording. Well, that's an incredibly development. If nobody. Brazil's staff authorized the recording. Who did the recording? Now, my guess is this. Nobody authorized the recording on paper because they didn't want a paper trail of who authorized doing this. This was a case of a bunch of lefties thinking themselves thinking. We'll set up boss Joe. What are they GONNA? Say something here that we can use against David. We'll have the evidence by recording the call. Fitting it off to the media, but by not telling us that, of course they didn't tell Abras because they don't tell them anything. Because the staff runs the office, they turned this into a felony aside from the ethics of. New Recording Boston Fitzgerald against their knowledge which politicians again just don't do otherwise they all do it. They want to be able to think that we can talk. Frankly when we're in private, you know. When Mitch, McConnell is talking to Nancy Pelosi about something in general, they tend not to Blab what they say otherwise. How would you ever have to? Leaders have any kind of conversation. How will you ever cut the deal? So will be bad for him. Even if he presented by either is not having any knowledge, it becomes a criminal act so therefore the question becomes. Who did it? Now I think where you'd have to start is who tipped off the Journal? The seek the open records request because that person obviously knew what was recorded. Wonders about the role of the Legal Counsel for Twenty Years Ryan Del stood. who was also the Legal Counsel for twenty years? Money was at DPI. And what also wonders if this particular call is the and only time that one of Tony? Iverson's calls with someone else was recorded. And the final point if Tony was really all that bothered that this occurred, wouldn't he fired the person that he knows, did it? It is time for Tony. Up and say who did this edit is then time to start a criminal investigation to determine if that person shouldn't be charged with a felony reporting. Twenty Wins Mark Doubling late afternoon. Show I ventured that somebody who was. Ankle biting on me, said you think they're gonna hit so many home runs when they lost their second and third leading hormone notice last year. I just the numbers, they actually lost the second third and fourth leading homerun hitters. The number three Homerun hitter was actually the catcher. His Money Granville again. The guy that replacing with their as he's the same thing, he's another guy that's just gonNa hit nothing but home runs, and not have much of a batting average, so what they've lost I think they pretty much have cloned in terms. Of replacements if the brewers have striked, it's that they have a lot of guys who can pitch two innings and I think that's the way they're going to manage every one of these games in the short and season, every game will be played like a playoff game and. You'll use Josh Hater Lot in one and and kind of situations. Corey could able Brent suter Brad Woodruff and the bunch of them, and there's no manager who has mastered that better. Thing Craig Counsel and finally this interesting announced today people live with wondering about the fate of Bayshore with so many of those retailers and restaurants having gone under seventy office space going down, they did get a pretty big boost today. Target is announcing that they're moving into the former Boston store building. A few days ago, total why the big national wine Shane that's opened one or two stores already in southeastern Wisconsin. They announced that they're building a standalone store at bayshore. As well. I. Think what's happening here is bayshore is going to more from a town centre with all these streets all these small stores. To, a little bit more similar to what you have at the Drexel Townsquare and Oak Creek, where it's a little bit more a several big box, stand alone stores rather than this kind of thing that they tried to create with all these little mini retailers in there, and so on the total wine. Those stories are actually very large and target. We know how big those stories are. It's unclear to me from the story whether or not the. The Turgut Star will also will be groceries or just department store target offers both of them, but I wouldn't be surprised if the long term plan for Bayshore is to get out a lot of those little small unit stories that are in there and instead move toward a concept of three or four or five big box stores, and then try to get a couple of restaurants in there is the whole environment and retailing the United States. Jacobs. That I've settled after today's program back tomorrow by. Abby. We. have. To. Keeps Ma Hon. Just hang a song and brings. ME. ME.

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8.30.19 Paying your mortgage bi-weekly to save money; Clark Stinks

Clark Howard Show

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8.30.19 Paying your mortgage bi-weekly to save money; Clark Stinks

"I'm so glad to welcome you to the clark howard. Show where it's about you learning ways he's to save more and spend last and don't let anyone ever rip you off so coming up a little later. We have a segment for you that for many people's their favorite segment of our show clark stinks three. You get to hear where people are engery at me disappointed in me or feel like i just don't get it right so i'm gonna talk about something that is not right needed. All there's a pitch that comes in waves that as there's more talk about the u._s. Economy slowing and the possibility of a recession again. It's only a possibility of a recession about one in three chance people start to become a little more serious about their money so so the pitches start from banks third parties and mortgage companies pitching you on paying in your mortgage off with a bi weekly loan the ideas you take half a monthly mortgage payment and and make that payment every two weeks and what the promise is it. Today's mortgage rates likely on a thirty year loan. You'll uh-huh cut four years off your loan and save probably <hes> you know tens of thousands of dollars early couple of tens of thousands in interest so that's the pitch and so this let's say shows. We'll say save thousands of dollars on your mortgage. Pay your your loan many years earlier. Pay it off. Many years earlier than you would have. Otherwise sounds pretty exciting right well. Let me tell you how this thing plays you will either pay a junk fee up front and a junk fee over time every payment you do or you pay a junk fee every month for doing this many times when the pitch comes from your bank they're getting commission for conning you into a by weekly payment program that is run by a third party in the bank washes its hands if the third party of skies with your the money or doesn't properly make payments on time and the bank says oh no all we were doing was letting you know about. This is a public service. We have nothing to do with it even though they lined their pockets with it by getting do sign up with the biweekly thing. The reality is all you. You gotta knows the math so there's fifty two weeks a year. When you make half a mortgage payment every two weeks over those fifty two weeks you've made twenty-six half payments or the equivalent of thirteen thirteen monthly payments by paying half a payment every two weeks. All you're really doing is you're making thirteen mortgage payments amy year instead of twelve but it gets more sinister the people the banks in cahoots with that they took the kickback from uses the money you pay each month each time you pay every two weeks and you build up a reserve money. They use that that money interest free for their own benefit and then you're trusting them at the end of the year to make one additional payment for you. Do you know you get much more impact with your money. If you took what your monthly mortgage payment would be divided by. I twelve in just pay that one twelfth additional principal payment each month. You save much more money that way you you don't have to pay the junk fees and you know the money made it to the mortgage in every possible way. It's better for you to do it yourself. Your payment coupon. If you've got a payment coupon book. Most people get a monthly statement. Now it'll have a box on it for additional principal payment so you pay that additional amount each month that one twelve and what it does is it means that those dollars that you paid extra never have a dollar interest charged against him ever again you get much bigger impact instead of waiting till the end of the year and then one payment is made. You're making one extra twelve that each month all year long for as long as you want and you'll save more time off your loan and you won't get paid any junk young fees and you don't have to worry about the bank selling out to some fly by night outfit the maybe doesn't make the payments as they should pays alone late leaves you up the river with late pays or no pays ruined credit money missing all the rest. You would think thank your bank was actually doing what's best and right for you. Well most to unfortunately there are many that that have no ethics no honesty and no decency andrew is with us on the clark howard show hi andrew hey clark. Thanks for having me on certainly andrew. How can i be of service to you today. Well i am <hes> a backpacker shoestring traveler and i <hes> i'm always trying to find ways to save money. When i travel and you ever done surfing i have couch surfing. <hes> tell us your best and worst first experiences couch surfing well. I've only done it once and it wasn't a great experience. <hes> it was a very smelly home and and <hes> yeah noisy children on the floor above and noisy children on the floor below so <hes> that was my my one chance with couch surfing. I haven't done sense but i might. I might try it again. Our producer jolt used to think it was a great idea to couch surfing. How many times did you do it a handful a handful. I gotta i going to tell them. One of my good friends travis met his wife on couch surfing so it's not all bad and you met a beer-drinking buddy right yeah. Ah yes sir of course i met some good people through counseling. Although it is hit or miss that's for sure and is there still like a website for that. That's a clearinghouse. What is it's couch surfing dot com. I'm pretty sure it's still there. I've done a long time to go beyond somebody else's oh yeah you can list yours or other people. Have there's listed and you can reach retried out to them so you're done with that. So what are you thinking of doing now andrew well. I mean i i might i might give it a shot again but <hes> right now i found a website that is specifically geared towards people who are <hes> putting our house up to be <hes> rented <hes> to house sitters <hes> so it's a an exchange you take care of their animals and things and <hes> you live in their house for free for the amount of time that they're gone so it's like a day or week or month and they do charge a fee and that's kind of where i'm at a loss whether or not to go ahead and pay that the how much how much is the i'm it's ninety dollars for <hes> that the sitter and then it's one hundred twenty dollars if you are the homeowner in and pet owner okay so the purpose the reason you pay the fees with some of these is that it's because they know you can't not everybody's going to be trustworthy and provides insurance in the system and it's also how they make their money and there are several role of these organizations and they vary in quality and their method of operation which one wanna you looking at this one is called trusted house sitters dot com yeah and that one the reviews are are pretty good. Some of the others nuts southbound yeah. <hes> i found the same thing i read all the customer reviews testimonials and <hes> seems completely above board it was just the ninety dollars was kind of steering me in the face and i i just wanted to run it by you first to make sure that was a legitimate. You know if you're staying somewhere. Somebody's home for days. You're taking care of their dogs or cats. <hes> you're being they're bringing in the mail and and you know bring it if they if anybody still gets a newspaper in me bringing in their newspapers from the curb getting in their packages that are being delivered and bringing them in and all that <hes> you're you're essentially doing a little bit of work to be able to be there her but you get a great benefit if you're paying a flat ninety dollars to be able to stay there for several days weeks whatever <hes> <hes>. I think it's reasonable. Okay good snow and again. This is something we've had zero complaints about. That doesn't mean scene. There aren't people who are gonna call up now and say corker you an idiot. Do you know what happened but it does seem team that that when has its act together great. I guess i'll go ahead and click submit. Thank you for your health. Where do you think you're gonna travel okay. I'm gonna start in japan and make my way to nepal and from there. I don't know okay so i gotta say something about that so you're gonna be how sitting adding in other countries e._s. <hes> <hes> no that the housing standards in many other countries are not at the level we're used to let's take japan for a second. Japan is one of the wealthiest countries on earth but the housing stock doc is much more basic than what we're used to and there are people who live in very very nice homes in japan but particularly shakily in that massive blob of urban urbanism or whatever from tokyo to osaka people the live in very tight quarters a lot of times not very kind of drab places. I guess i'd say and so don't expect things things on a lot of places you go to be the level the you are used to <hes> okay i will lower my expectations which is just watching to know that and the same rule applies with airbnb and a lot of countries that airbnb will be <hes> not the same caliber accommodations that maybe you expect and what you're used to ralph is with us on the clark howard show hi ralph how're. How are you great. Thank you ralph. How can i serve you. Yes i received an email from a company that said i had a lot of money in an unclaimed like thirty seven thousand dollars and i'm that testing. That would be awesome so i made the call to them. And of course they wanted to know everything about me and then they wanted me to pay them a good sum of money and they wanted my social security number. I'm thinking if you can get it for see. I can get it for free. I'll talk the clock hours so we love the way you said that it rhymed. It was great and <hes> so you are you are right and i wanted to tell you that it's become much easier for you to find money. That's gone unclaimed also wanted to tell you this that could also be was known as a pretext a scam with somebody trying to get personal information and or money from you and there is no thirty seven thousand dollars out there. I mean there could be but you also stand the risk that this is just a kind so so i'll tell you how to find out what might be out there ready. First place he go to is unclaimed dot org. Have you seen that i have not but i'm sitting here with a colleague of mine and he said something along those lines. He's writing now. Okay so unclaimed. Dot org is a clearinghouse for all the states around the country who go look at the state databases. The second is one that i used to say i but there are a number of states that don't participate in the very very very easy easy to use missing money dot com database awesome. Both of these are completely free to use. Have you ever owned an f._h._a. F._h._a. home a home with an f._h._a. Home loan on it. No i have not so we'll skip that. Have you ever worked for for a company. That had a pension yes i did and have you claim that pension. No i have not okay. It's possible that something has happened with that pension that the company had and there may be pension money that is there for you if you go due to a website for the pension benefit guaranty corporation which is p. As in paul v isn't benefit jesus and george p._b._g._c. is in charlie dot gov. You'll be able to see and i also have an article. We just updated on clark dot com all the different ways. You should go search to see if there is money missing for you so you can claim it. I hope you you find that thirty-seven thousand david's with us on the car coward show and david. You've decided to dump a full commission stockbroker congratulations to you. That is a day of freedom for your wallet when you dump a full commission stockbroker if they're that's exactly what i'm going for and thank you so much for taking my call. Certainly you're going to go to one of the low cost companies that i always say yapping about. That's the plan so i actually finally went and met with one of them that the the administrator of my 4._0._1._k. Hey at work just in talking with them. They said well. Let's look at what your 4._0._1._k. The money is in and it just happens to be in the exact same retirement age index fund that you would recommend for my i normally and so my only question for you is is it really a good idea to just put my i._r._a. In that exact same fund should i keep looking further options instead of putting all my eggs in one basket. How old are you david. I am forty f- forty. It would be fine for you to go into your doing like the twenty forty-five fund yes yeah so it would be fined for you to do your i._r._a. Exact mirror image of what you're doing in your 4._0._1._k. I would say till you're about fifty five and then at that point you consider doing a a split where your i._r._a. Let's say goes into some more bonds if you wished and 'cause bonds inside an i._r._a. They were good choice because bonds have tax issues that you don't have inside an i._r._a. And leave your 4._0._1._k. Totally focused on the twenty forty five fun or you could. There's enough diversification within those funds you could just leave twenty forty five in both of them but we got a lot of time between now and when you'll be got fifteen years before really need to focus on that and who knows what kind of investment choices and options will be available fifteen years down the road so for now i would just do straight twenty forty five in both and know that the key is the money you put aside at low cost. That's diversified and those funds are well. Diversified great news is you're saving in both places. I'm so glad you're with us here on the clark howard show where it's about you learning ways to save more and spend less. Yes and don't let anyone ever rip you off. You know something so different about what we do. Is this show is about your empowerment. I met with knowledge so you can do those exact thing. Save more spend less know anybody rip you off. Where mo- shows you listen to our about politics. That's right. That's not what we do. We're about helping each other and you rely on me to give the best possible advice and information asian that exists and there are times. I'm a human guy. I'll miss the boat. I'll give an answer you feel is wrong or incomplete wait and so that's why i need your feedback. If you got a clark dot com slash clark stinks you can post where you feel. I didn't deliver for for you and others can read your post. They can comment on them. They can agree ad disagree whatever and then weekly our producer. Krista goes is through your posts and picks her favorites to share with you right here on the air. I should've never encouraged to speak. It was thing i'm pretty stupid ashamed of yourself. Maybe maybe maybe you're right on a recent it show that mobile passport is free. It is only free to download after seven day trial period. It costs fourteen ninety nine per year david david <hes> thank you you know you're the third person that i've heard from about mobile passport and the app is misleading because there is until they decide to take this away. There's the paid version which is fifteen bucks a year and then there's a free version that requires that you do manual labor each time time you arrive at a port of entry that has mobile passport and so i use the free version just manually put in the information each time to save the money and i've never had to pay yet now. You may wonder why would even use it. If i'm global entry there there are times that mobile passport is ironically enough quicker than global entry or a place may have arriving in the u._s. May have mobile passport available but not have global entry. There's a program that allows you to really jump the line and enter the united states whole whole lot quicker than you would otherwise. I would like you to share as much inside info about sam's club as you do about costco. There are three sam's clubs within a few miles of where i live. There's only one costco my town in newsday long drive. There plus. Costco membership costs more than sam's club does. Sam's club has saved our family only a lot of money over the years especially on tires and car batteries susan susan <hes> i shop obviously both sam's club and costco wholesale wholesale but more at costco sam's and i with sam's i want to say something about the membership. Sam's offers membership specials nationals for new members repeatedly that make the effective cost of membership nearly free or the equivalent of beyond free and we post those is deals on clark deals dot com when sam's club has a membership special as far as the tricks of the trade in a sam's club. Sam's club has as an equivalent of costco's ninety seven and ninety. Seven cents is a clearance item typically being sold below costco's cost at sam's tmz club anything that ends in a penny so forty one cents ninety one cents whatever numbers since eighty one cents if you see that one that means means that it's an item that they are getting rid of. There are not as many tricks that i'm aware of in a sam's club is there are two saving money honey enter costco but that one thing alone you watch the items on the shelf and that will be something that may well save you money by the way also look look at sam's club for the number sign in the upper right hand corner of a pricing thing that means an item is not typically going to be restocked. You see a ton of them there. Wait till it goes to being forty one or ninety one or whatever since and get it at a better price. Thanks for help me get spam. I was doing research for a new vehicle and went to sam's car buying service immediately associate. Sam's club yeah things is i had to so i thought every together immediately. I started getting emails repeatedly from a half a dozen car dealers in the area. I send them to junk mail but it doesn't stop them. I tried replying to beg him to stop but the messages come back undeliverable. This has got to be the worst way to buy a car these dealers to know that they have permanently turned me off no way am i gonna use sam's or these spamming dealers timothy timothy thank you in. This gives me an opportunity to talk again about the engine behind the sam's club car buying program the u._s._a._a. Car buying program and several other organizations are using a company called truecar. You're truecar used to give you a price for a vehicle and then you actively could choose whether or not to contact tacked dealer now. Truecar has more to be far more car dealer friendly and less consumer-friendly by becoming lead generation nations service for car dealers and you will get spammed out of your mind two things you should do before you use the sam's club car car-buying program u._s._a._a. <hes> consumer reports car buying program has truecar behind the scenes what you wanna do is is you want to get a burner email address. You wanna get an email address. That is clark shops for a car at g mail dot com or whatever you want to have something like that. <hes> well the point. Was you wanna have like i said cargo. It's fine whatever register that okay the other thing <music> as i've talked about getting <hes> burner phone numbers getting google voice number or getting a there's a thing called the burner app. Get at a separate phone number that you put in so the car. Dealers can't hassle you and harass you. All you're trying to do is buy a car at a better petr. Deal and truecar has certainly taken a lot of the fun out of that process. A gentleman named. Jim called into the show with the question but before he asked his question he thanked clark for his service. In the state guard the gentleman also mentioned other gentlemen and servicemen which as a woman in the military rankled me quite right a bit women serve proudly to all branches of the military so there is no excuse to ignore their contributions. The collar stinks in this regard and clark stinks to for failing to catch this error on the air theresa theresa i also to you thank you for your service and i have the privilege of serving ving with wonderful men and women who share a patriotic duty to protect our nation and it doesn't matter who you are <hes> where you come from whatever what's great about our nation is that we are given the privilege to serve our country and i am <music> proud to serve with so many wonderful men and women in the u._s. Military hey pepe la clark no clark rage over the recent bayton switch pulled by the f._t._c. regarding the one hundred twenty five dollar cash settlement for victims of the equifax data breach f._t._c. assistant director robert arbor. Shes robertson ski wrote in a blog post that a large number of the claims for cash instead of credit monitoring means only one thing each person who takes the money money option will wind up getting only a small amount of money nowhere near the one hundred twenty five dollars. They could have gotten if there hadn't been such an enormous number of claims filed must have been too human clark howard fans out there who knew the credit monitoring offer was a joke in opted for the cash settlement instead. Keep fighting the good fight clark. Thanks for all you and your team team do for the american consumer jeff in miami falls wisconsin menominee falls menominee falls wisconsin. Sorry jeff sorry menominee falls. You've never been to menominee falls. I haven't okay so anyway. <hes> this was absolutely clark rages and we did a clark -rageous moment about it how the feds rolled over for equifax and came up with this joke of a non settlement and it it is an embarrassment that our federal government feels like its job is to protect equifax instead of protecting acting the american people the settlement announced when originally was made. It sound like people get one twenty five by the time this has done. Maybe people we'll get one hundred and twenty five cents and it makes no sense at all. Equifax has not suffered in any meaningful way for this gross negligence but a hundred and fifty million of us as americans have a lifetime threat of identity theft because of equifax clark. You touted the benefits of a._c._a. Plants including compliance with the h._s._a. Requirements unfortunately many of the plans lands on a c. A. r. not h._d._h._p. Slash h._s._a. Compliant even with extremely high deductibles and premiums including all of the plans in indiana indiana guy guy. Thank you what you're referring to. Is there a special requirements about what happens once. You've met your deductible role as the primary blocker to people being h._s._a. Eligible plan that is h._s._a. Eligible has to be beyond adjust having a high deductible which most health plans seem to have now and so the fact that in indiana you have zero plans available to you that our h._s._a. Eligible is terrible because the h._s._a. Is such a great tool for us to take more responsibility. The over our health and our health care costs all right <hes>. I'm looney judah. Sit down for this. One embrace yourself okay. I saved it it for last because i'm a little nervous about higher. Gonna react clarke clarke clarke. I recently traveled out west for vacation and while in los angeles i told told my wife we need to go in and out burger. Cork always mentioned them when people in california. I thought this is going to be wonderful. Well it. It was a burger joint and it was okay you referred to in and out as though it is out of this world i have to disagree. I really consider your advice and i have the nickname. I've nicknamed you. It's clark pedia except for burger advice. You smell like a rose mark mark. I'm so sorry you had a bad in and out experience. My wife and daughter and son and i were at in and out burger in oakland and the burgers weren't that special that day and so ever forward. They're like yeah yeah. You want to go in and out that i'm not eating that burger so no place is perfect every time but i don't like that. My wife is filing in a clark stinks under an assumed name and in and out burger. I love it but it doesn't mean i'm right light. Food is a very personal thing and maybe you have been in and out and head is good and experiences. I usually do but anyway. I i want to hear from you. Please go to clark dot com. Slash clark stinks and if you feel i have missed the mark. Let me know joseph joins us on the clark howard show and joseph. You have a very generous dad. I gather well yeah. He's trying to give kids a house but it's been in the family for about four generations now and <hes>. I was kinda curious. What the best way to go about doing it. So are you you the only child who's going to receive the house or is it one of those things that you're gonna be sharing this house ownership with siblings well. Here's the thing he hasn't made a decision on that yet. <hes> i have an older sister and a younger sister and he hasn't decided if he wants to give it to one of us or somehow. Put it in a trust with all of us. I was actually for the one who suggested he could probably do that. It's an option he has but he just now started thinking about all these things and <hes> i asked him because he's paying taxes on on a now which aren't very much but i asked him. If you wanted to keep paying taxes you know in his retirement or if he wanted to give it away you know before then so he's not paying those i'm always retired and he didn't even have an answer to that yet but <hes> how old are each of you is siblings so my oldest sister's thirty six. I'm twenty any seven and my younger sister is twenty six. Okay you know your lives particularly you and your younger sister. Your lives are going to change so much over the years. I know there's family sentimental issues here and great family history with this having been through generations. Have you talked with your two sisters about how they feel about this place. I have actually a cause. That's one of the things my dad was talking about. Was you know he didn't want to offend anybody with his decision. Saving kinda wanted us to see if we can come to a consensus and <hes> basically if he gave it to all of us. We're all okay with it. If you show if he was gonna pick one one person it would probably be me or my older sister and from what i gather. Everybody's kind of okay with either one of those options so you can't really do anything wrong but <hes> the important wouldn't factor here is that it's not going to be sold so we're not really my questions more about making it less of a financial burden on anybody he gives it to win less about you know resale value or capital gains because i don't think it's gotta be a factor. None of us want to sell it. You're a neat guy that that's where your heart and head head or on this so that that's really nice so i will tell you that it families do this where apparent errant will give a vacation home to a bunch of kids and it generally doesn't work out that hot because over the years each of you will have different levels of financial strength and different interests. He may move away to other parts of the country away from where this vacation home is and i would say with your ages. How's your dad's health aleve in good shape and he's he's only like fifty five right now. So you don't wanna make any move right now with that property at all. I think it would be a mistake to set up a trust the it'll be a mistake to decide to give it to one of the three of you right now because i'm telling you where let's say hey. Let's say your dad lives normal life span which would be <hes> sometime into his eighties think about where each of you are going to be that would mean that your oldest sister is in her mid sixties and when you're younger sister in your mid fifties right so all the thing is it's kind of an interesting situation. It's not just our vacation home. It's almost like a an entire family vacation home. We have extended relatives that come in and visit the place all the time time so it's sort of like he's not. He's not choosing an owner. It's more of a proprietor. We're all kind of spread out now. Nobody lives within ten hours of it. You know driving distance so for now unless it is a horrible burden on your dad. I think the best thing is to do nothing now. Then then i don't see any upside to making a decision about this property. At the point you are in each of your lives kids <music>. You're spread out by your own telling your dad's still by the actuarial tables young and if he wants to in his will say say who would inherit it and he can change that later based on how circumstances would change. I think that's fine if he's got expenses for it and he doesn't want to bear those expenses and this is used by extended family. I think having some kind of amount that people pay when they go use it would be a way to make it more equitable for him and for others. You're listening to the clark howard show. Thanks for joining us today. 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12/3/20 Democrats sharp move to the left - why?

The Mark Belling Show

2:20:45 hr | 7 months ago

12/3/20 Democrats sharp move to the left - why?

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Milwaukee says the mark belling late afternoon show on news talk eleven thirty w i s add some sort of law physics involved in this but no physicist has figured it out yet in fact i think i'm the only person that's figured it out and i haven't really figured it out the laws of physics sort of works like this if you're elected to a position of power of the united states your body and your mind draft left it just it's almost an inexorable move if you are elected to something your body and your mind drift now i will grant you the reason that this can't be a hard and fast law physics most hard and fast law physics. Always hold up. You can't defy the laws of physics and there are exceptions to the rule. So there's something out there that is getting this draft but it is something that in rare cases it appears to be resisted. Now we're going to walk through this thing. I get asked questions as you know. And what have been is mark. Why are so many rather conservative communities governed by such liberal people. I get that all the time. And i've answered that question in two ways all the time the first is well. That's who runs for these jobs. Generally speaking in local government if you take it entire universe let's just make it a for the purposes of using round numbers that can be understood if there's a thousand people who live in a community and obviously most communities are way larger than that and you plot those people the most liberal people louis liberal person in the whole committee to the left and the most conservative person to the right and put everybody in between like if i lived in the same community. You think you'd be to the left of me or not. You know you wouldn't be you think that i'm to the left of you. Well now we gotta plot about. We can't put anybody standing on top of one another. In other words there's going to be a differentiation on the each of them. He thinks he'd be to the right of me for those of you. Who think. I'm some right wing wacko. Apparently jon wyatt is it with the city war but he would have been to the right of both of us right. He had a couple of things he seemed to be a little flaky. Left on but yeah. He added libertarian. Thing which is just a part of your brain that just kinda crazy understandably crazy but sort of crazy. I mean i. I have libertarian streaks viola. But you can't take it to the ultimate extreme because when you do you become the same thing that these lefties how you believe it anneke which john ever agreed with heap. He wanted to crack down on all these protests. He only went so far. This why are we talking about john. Wyatt the guy is essentially dead us. He quit the show and he's off. What's he doing now. Paul claims he's doing home inspection. Do we know that he's doing it. How do you know that you keep tabs on facebook. Get off of facebook thing. I've told you to. That's another reason that you can't be more to the left me because you're on facebook. I think facebook is more lefty thing. Well i it's gotta be more left. He think conservatives thrown off right. that's all i know. You're not market survey the me. If you were throwing you off. Facebook would have been banned. You better the jail. Allot they have that over. They throw you because you can't post for a week because you said you said well. Gee i think. Mrs trump is a nice lady or something. It's that you can get. I hear you can get it that jail quite easily the liberals being tossed in jail actually that jail to educate all form your own facebook when you're in jail because no lefties are there. They can say anything. They wanted facebook right. So let's suppose now getting back to where i was a mile and a half ago. You plotted community out and got this long. Little lied to the farthest of the left is the most liberal person in the community. Virus threat is the most conservative person in the community and the media. And of course is at number five hundred. We're literally half. The community is more liberal than that person. Half the community market -servative the people who run for local government. More of them will come to the left of that guy than to the right. There are very few communities where this is not true even an extremely liberal communities halls the most liberal communities. We have like say madison. The people who run for office in madison are on the liberal. Half either madison. We certainly see that. That's the case. In milwaukee where i don't think the majority of the people in the community support defunding the police but the overwhelming majority of the city council has voted to define the police and in fact we are in the current budget slashing police funding. So that's the first part of the answer that who runs for the office. They tend to be more liberal. But secondly it is remarkable. How even no matter what you were you were. Would you got in how you tend to drift and move leftward once you're in there and the longer you're there the more left where you go as i say it's not a hard and fast rule so it can't be a law physics despite the goofy little thing. I said at the beginning because it was the law physics. That would work all the time. There are few who seem over time to be able to resist it and one or two that actually drift to the right. But it's very very rare. The norm is the longer you are institutionalized to move to the left. It happens with even strongly. Ideologically committed people where you see them when they come in literally running as reformers they go after establishment types and the republican party and they run to be reformers and this drift occurs and they start moving off to the left. It isn't just a washington swamp thing or a madison swamp. Thing i find. It's profound in local government as well but nobody falls doesn't like it when i pick on them which is one of the reasons. I like to pick god them. Set me some sort of a sadist. That i liked to pick on people who like to be picked on. Not if they deserve. Well it does make kind of a sadist as it if i enjoy picking on people who don't want to be picked on except i'm not really like i'm not a bully. I could never be one of these guys. If you see some homeless guy laying on the street the start making fun of or i you know you see people like these creepy people do that. I could never do that. I'm too nice for my own. Good whatever mean decide have it comes out right here on the air like this comment to make about menominee falls but nominee falls objects this all the but a number of the people who run for office over years in nominee falls started out his rather conservative people. The village president up there gets mad every time i point out. He's not particularly conservative. His name is glasgow well. he's not particularly conservative. When push came to shove in menominee falls when they had that whole battle with regard to the school district changing its nickname away from the indians. The village board president said well the school issue. I don't wanna go after their by that. This is the kind of thing that happens. Why if you believe in something. Would you not want to go after them on that. Why would you not try to beat them. Why would you not try to do the right thing unless you are. Somebody that gradually has moved to the left. And here's the best. I can figure out of this first of all. Because government officials themselves are farther to the left of the community as a whole almost always and most people who go into government ten again. Most they didn't say all they tend to be rather outgoing and gregarious people they liked to get along with others and the way to get a lie is not by the hard liner to the right. Who stands on principle. This doesn't always hold with. The lefties wanted to get along with people but most people who have conservative values what to get along and they wanna seem reasonable and so on and they have this drift thus emami dominy falls you have a lousy liberal school board ad the village board which is somewhat more conservative. Does it want to take them on because they wanna get along with everybody and the end result is you have this gradual. Move toward the liberal. Hell that most governmental bodies in menominee falls turn into night just picked menominee falls there because i enjoy picking menominee falls but i could upset about many communities. This drift just occurs now. I'm gonna use two examples here one the second one that. I'm not going to get to right away. But i'm gonna get to it. The wisconsin supreme court today declining to immediately take up the trump lawsuit over the election. Irregularities because again not surprisingly the john. Roberts have wisconsin. Brian hagedorn moved enjoyed with the liberals voted for three to kick the thing down into circuit court meeting. It'll take forever to work at the court so forth and so odd hagedorn. And what has happened with him. Is one of the examples that i wanna site but i wanna start with liberals themselves. There's a very interesting dispute. Go out of the last couple of days. Involving barack obama feuding with the fire left in the democratic party of that is a weird fight. What are the points that. I tried to make the conservatives. Is you have to understand that. Even among liberalism their ear there are great dacians. Aoc for example. As far to the left the nancy pelosi now a lot of people. Just look at other. All they're all commies we'll maybe they are all commies but even in the communist party the some that were farther out there than others for instance brezhnev for further out than gorbachev and stalin was farther out than brushed it. They're all monsters but there is that gradation that is in place out there. What would you talk about hitler at here. What does that have to do with by comment about the lefties and the communists. You're extending my point. See well i encourage you to weigh in with your comments. And so i but every now and then your comments and so on are stupid and then i do see you should. I just like gratuitously. Well that's an interesting point. Or if i think stupid just say it's stupid. I could call you well. Yeah i that's who said. Wow you're so mean to paul all of this the for crying out loud. What kind of a show do you think you're listening to. This is not a program in which people keep we keep our mouths shut when people say things. That aren't intelligent. If something stupid said i'm going without regard to who it is a said i'm going to say it millennials. Have a hard time with that. That's an entire group that just generally drifts to the left to get along with one another in fact in fact i would say that what i'm describing here about communities and governments. The millennial generation is a perfect example of it. In fact almost an extreme example where you would rather so many of them seemed to be more intent getting along with the other people in their peer group than actually having any principles and standing up and saying. This is what i believe in your rog. Oh you support legal abortion guess. What you're a baby killer. Very very few millennials will say that if they think that it's going to offend the person that they say it to anyway this little bit of a bleeping match between obama and the fire left of the democratic party. It's hard to imagine that there is a wing of the democratic party. Farther to the left than obama when obama was elected president. I think it's fair to say that he was probably the most liberal president in american history. I know it's hard to go back into the eighteen hundreds and say liberal and conservative and so odd because the standards and the issues were a little bit different. So let's just go into the modern era from one thousand nine hundred. Odd obama was clearly the most liberal person in there many of the democrats that got themselves elected president prior to obama ran as moderates and kennedy even ran as a conservative on many issues. He was stronger on foreign policy and more anti-communist even then the nixon eddie way obama and the lefties feud over the statement of defunding. The police sense the november election. Came down a number of democrats distraught that they lost ground in the house and might not take the senate. The georgia runoff will determined that when they were convinced that they were gonna do so. They thought that this was going to be a wipeout. And they grab everything the very distraught over this and they believe that the reason that they lost ground is because in many swing districts across the country congressional districts house districts and even some senate races. The democrats were portrayed as being a party of radicals which are issues. That of course play in beverly hills in play on the upper east side of new york and play in madison wisconsin. But they don't play in a lot of parts of the country that are fifty fifty republican democrat and this points been raised by a lot of democrats than they raise the bitterly in that conference call. That was widely leaked among house. Democrats in which a lot of the moderates called out the radical saying. I'm sick and tired of hearing this leftist crappy. It's killing us. In fact there are a lot of democrats who believe the reason that the polls were wrong. And that the reason that joe biden didn't squash trump is because trump was able to make ground by portraying. The democrats is being a radical party that this caused some people to come back home to trump even though they didn't like him again. This is the philosophy. The thought that the democrats have their wondering why they didn't get sixty percent of the vote everywhere so eddie way. Obama came out earlier this week and made some comments on defunding. The police you know about this or not not really. You are such a liar. Not not not really. You mean no. You don't know about it at all do you know. Do you know about obama's comments had defined the police. You do a liar. What did obama say about defunding. The police he said well. Then you do know about this. So i where did you. Where did you hear about this. I thought that nobody knew about this other than me. It's not okay. it's bed out there all right so i don't have to give all the background because even somebody like paul is apparently the end of this a little bit obama came out and said he didn't really say the defunding. The police is a bad idea. He said that when you say it it turns people into republicans that alienates people away from the democratic party. And i think a lot of democrats believe that. And we've certainly seen with regard to public opinion polls that majorities of democrats majorities giorgis of african. Americans are opposed to defunding the police. So bama saying we gotta stop talking about defunding the police now i would go further and say well. Maybe you gotta stop defending. Please stop doing it and understanding milwaukee. We did cut the police budget. This year. tom barrack cut it in the city. Council tried to cut it more than that. These proposals are all over the place. We haven't had a member of the city. Council tried to county board and city on both of them. Tried to get rid of the canine units in milwaukee because this supposedly that's racist that didn't succeed bought. It's an indication that this isn't just rhetoric that they are acting. You saw wah wah tosa all summer being beset by people who are demanding. Not only that police officers be fired. The police be defended. They wanna get the cops out of mayfair mall etc etc etc and obama's commodity. He has said that look. This is a terrible issue for our side. When the left wing of our party is out there saying defined the police it alienates a number of people that ought to be voting for democrats and the left wing of the party is now mad at obama. And they're firing at him. Lose a fascinating fight to watch where they're accusing essentially accusing obama of being a sellout because he hasn't gone way off into lefty wacko. Ville with them and saying that we ought to defend the police. Now here's the point that i make about the drift leftward that occurs while it is true that some voters wandered away from the democratic party and voted for republicans particularly in the growth that the republicans have seen under trump with latinos and small and medium size cities and in rural areas. The state of wisconsin for example while republicans have lost ground in the milwaukee suburbs. They have gotten much stronger in eastern wisconsin. Sheboygan manitowoc kelly you bet fondly counties and then into the middle of the state. These areas have become profoundly overwhelmingly republican and some of the things that the democrats have embraced. The radicalism i think is backfiring among democrats who live in small and medium cities way away from the big cities whether democrats but they certainly would not consider themselves to be radical. So even though it's true that these issues have caused some democrats to fall away from the party. The reality is now. Here's where i'm going to listen to. The example making is that the democratic party over time has moved extremely to the left that what happens. Is this the left wing of the party. Takes positions the moderates in the party tend not to what to fight him and they just keep moving the whole thing overall to the left. I don't think that most republicans in america over the last thirty years have gotten more conservative. I don't i think we've pretty much have the same beliefs that we've always had. There are different specifics. I think that there's been a shift. He had the interest in republicans to be involved in foreign entanglements and so on but the basic guiding principles are about the same. It's the liberals that have on many issues moved way way way way way out there. Look at the number of things. For example that we've defined. The police is a perfect example of it but there are many others. Obama bill clinton was the president who enacted the defense of marriage act. And when barack obama ran the first time which was only twelve years ago in eight he opposed marriage. Same sex marriage obama did. That's the democratic party was even among extreme. Left-wing member of the democratic party and all eight adding twelve years not only is gay marriage the law of the land. I think you'd have a hard time finding more than three democrats in the country who have supported in other words. What has happened on that issue. At and many others is the democrats left wing moved laughed and the rest of the party not wanted to have a bleeping match with them moved with them. I think it is almost implausible. The joe biden will resist this. Even if he wasn't half senile. The fact of the matter is is that it is very very difficult for the democrats. Hold their middle as people keep pushing farther and farther and farther to the left one of the points that i make on my show a lot about liberals and while it's obnoxious it's also all it's also a strength of theirs. They are not going to be appeased as you've seen in while the tosa as you're seeing in burlington is you've seen any number of places whenever you give them what they want. They ask for three times more. They figure if you're going to cave in to us on this why i keep pushing and pushing and pushing. Because we see that you're cave-ins the liberals have these beliefs they're out there radical ville and they keep pushing closer and closer and closer to the extreme beliefs that they have and they are never satisfied in fact when they see communities that show significant weakness. That's where they the hardest. So that's the first part of this the democrats themselves even for you. It'll be interesting to watch over the next two years. We'll have congressional midterm elections coming up in twenty twenty two will defend the police still be a democrat and lefty thing then or will the people in the party who thinks this issue is killing them succeed in knocking this thing down and getting liberal stopped pushing for it. Historically the first off year election of a president is a wipe out for the president's own party in other words. Twenty twenty two should be major republican year. It almost always works this way. It's worked this way with presidents of both parties but it's especially worked against the democrats. The biggest republican years in the last forty years were always the off years of a democratic president. The biggest one recently was twenty ten. The first off year of the obama presidency that for example was the year that the republicans won just about everything this country and when we turned wisconsin republican when the legislature would over welded the republicans. Have both party. When water got elected ron johnson was elected to the united states. Senate beating feingold the first time and so odd so that will be an interesting thing to watch. Given the fact that there are certain issues out there that the democrats have pushed that even their own senior leadership and congress. People from swing districts and senators in swing districts. They're trying to tell the leg their property to keep their mouths shut about it. The lefties however are pretty successful in continuing to push that knowing when it comes time to actually vote. The democrats almost always hold it together. If the policy position is moved way off to the left. You're still very very unlikely to see any democrats bail. Let me give you an example of that in obama's first term that's when they passed obamacare it was obviously for its time a very radical policy. They got it through the united states senate. Every single democrat voted forward now. What of them wandered often said this is going too far. Even the things that have since been struck down by trump and we're unpopular like the individual mandate every democrat in. The senate voted to put that in there. So now that biden's the president and again if there is a republican said it does limit some ability of about the democrats. Do but if there's a push by the democrats for example to slash federal aid local law enforcement as their way of defunding the police will the democratic majority. Fight that off it. Will they continue to be dragged off to the left. Even though the position appears to be something of a looser so that's the drift that occurs within the democratic party. The left wing of their party is always trying to push that party left. And there's really nobody in the democratic party trying to push back to the right you'll get for example right now. Obama saying stop saying fund the police. But that's not a push to the right. He's just trying to stop the move to the left. He's just trying to hold the ground where he is now and he's trying to do it. I mean i'm sure. Barack obama wants to fund the police. He just thinks that this is a terrible lose revenue issue for their party which clearly it is. Now let's move over to the other example. Brian hagedorn. We'll be guinea pig here. here's going. Brian hagedorn was two years ago and brian. Hagedorn was elected to the wisconsin supreme court in the election of eighteen. He ran as the conservative candidate. It had the support of virtually every conservative in the state of wisconsin. The liberals tried to destroy him because they thought plenty think about that that the liberals were mortified over hagedorn. And i'm sure they're very very happy with what they've gotten from him. They try to destroy over his religious beliefs that tried to destroy him over family issues. They try to destroy him in general because they didn't wanna conservative to be elected to the state supreme court. We won that one hundred on the election and he has been a terrible disappointment. I've called him the john roberts wisconsin which i think is a perfect analogy. Hagedorn seems to vote with the liberals half the time it might be more so but the half time is a little misleading because he tends to vote with the liberals on almost all the really big ones when hagedorn stays on the conservative side. I'm not saying that. Any supreme court cases unimportant but the cases that get the most attention that's where haggard on seems to be over on the leftist side today. The lawsuit was filed by the trump campaign asking the state supreme court to take immediate jurisdiction of the challenges of the election on the foreground the fort grounds or so that the trump campaign raised in their lawsuit requiring the court to take immediate jurisdiction. Would be the only way of doing anything that would have any impact on the current. He lectured that we had allowing the case to instead go to circuit court. And then after there's you know hearings and so on there that appeal to the state court of appeals and eventually to the state supreme court. I mean that's a year and a half and therefore a very little use to the trump campaign. It's not of no use because some of these questions that they're raising. I have contended. We have to resolve by twenty twenty two twenty twenty four. We've got to get rid of this notion of people being able to vote in park and madison weeks before election just dropping ballots anybody under the sun. We've got to get rid of this indefinitely. Confined thing that is a way of getting around photo. Id for voting. We've gotta gotta get rid of these drop boxes that in some communities you know. They set up. Gotta get rid of this notion of you. Know mark zuckerberg foundation giving millions of dollars to local communities in wisconsin to run their elections biased toward the left. These things some of these things have been pointed arrays the trump lawsuit and getting a resolution to it down. The road is a value but trump's lawyers are hoping to get a resolution now. The vote was four to three to kick the case down into circuit court. The three liberals voted to kick it a circuit court. The three conservatives voted here at now. Brian hagedorn joined with the liberals. Get in the entire. I won't say entire in the recent history of the the american judiciary. I'll go back to about nineteen fifty. Let's do your math valley. Seventy years. I think i know that it's seventy years. Provide a little uber here. Let's go back to say. Nineteen the examples of people either being elected or appointed judge and drifting to the right are not excess that we have however an incredible number of examples of judges during the time that they have been on the bench drifting to the left either they turn out to be more liberal than we thought they were or they gradually over time. Keep moving off to the left. It has happened again and again and again and again and again the most famous example is david suitor. Some people argue that it's an unfair example because suitor may have never actually said he was a conservative suitor was appointed by the first bush. Eddie chose the guy who had no track record because he figured by pictures at a guy who has no track record. The lefties canada has track record. It wasn't a bad idea but it backfired because in not having this track record they were under the impression that souder was more conservative than he was in. Souder of course turned out to be a liberal. Let's also the united states. Supreme court threw tied though. This court has been a five four court with a conservative majority forever and ever in ever accept whomever the least conservative is once they get to being that fifth vote. They tend to drift off to the left aside a walk. The history of this forever. Sandra day o'connor wise the least conservative of the five conservatives drift off and shoes the deciding vote on everything because she'd wander off and join with the liberals at a bunch of things. When sandra left the court anthony kennedy was the person who thus became the least conservative of the conservatives. And the next thing you know kennedy was drifting off to the liberal side. Kennedy never drifted off to the liberal side and kill okada was go. Hi john roberts gets appointed to the united states supreme court when he got on there. He was a conservative roberts's record prior to getting to the united states. Supreme court is extremely conservative. He has made rulings on the united states. Supreme court the contradict rulings. He made when he was a federal appeals court. Judge john roberts was i think it was. In the red federalist society he was regarded by every conservative legal. Mind out there as a staunch and solid conservative. That he gets in there as chief justice and he starts drifting off to the left. There are other examples of this. You go all the way back to older award. One of the liberal heroes of the supreme court roe war was a republican from california. He was put at the supreme court by icenhower. So it's not even a new phenomenon. And i understand that there were a lot of liberal republicans back in the arab world war but still whether the most defining liberal justice justices of the last nearly century century in american legal history was put on the court by the republicans and in fact as a politician was himself a republican. And it's true right up to the present day. What causes this. We let it awfully good question because if we do cards maybe we'd be able to trade it. What causes someone. Like john roberts to a get it again and again and again sell out. What his stated principles used to be some believe in the case of roberts that he does not want the united states supreme court to be a policymaker and therefore he is very reluctant to overturn anything. That any governmental body does even if that action violates the constitution because he doesn't believe in any kind of activism on the court be had from the left or the right that rationalization has been thrown out. There others believed that roberts is simply concerned about the courts reputation for instance if the supreme court has struck down all of obamacare. When it was upheld on a five four vote will. He casts the decisive vote. He felt that the supreme court would have been reviled by everyone on the left in this country and he didn't want that to happen again. These are all these theories or people. Try to mind. John roberts is never gotten up and said hey you all want to know why i sell out at all of these things. You ought to know why. What's a conservative entire life. Until i started drifting to the left and the supreme court. He's never really answered that question. But as i say sandra day o'connor did the same thing it'd be four after her. Anthony kennedy did the same thing. We have at the moment of six three united states. Supreme court with amy barrett on the court. Except it's probably not six three. It's probably right now. Five four because barrett design there. It probably means job. roberts is just going to permanently. Join the liberal wing and never vote with conservatives anymore and that means the next conservative. The fifth vote now. Is you have to figure out who that who the next one in line is. It wouldn't be clarence. Thomas too early to tell at amy barrett. Probably don't think it's alito. Somebody's gonna take on that role of course presuming. That biden becomes president. He's not going to be long before he gets an appointment. That's on the court head that it's go some six three two five four and maybe the other way around. If you can't count on john roberts for anything anymore. Sa- going back to wisconsin. There was nothing. And i'm not gonna say that i was an expert on brian. Hagedorn life prior to him running for the supreme court but there was nothing that would indicate he be the disappointment that he's turned out to be not strong advocate of private schools stood his ground. Showed you know. He could have folded his tent at a couple of these things that he was under fire for. His religious beliefs didn't again federalist society all the legal groups that he was as a younger man. Where on the conservative side his speeches at his writings and his opinions. Every track record that we had was conservative. He gets in the supreme court and it's not at the point in which he just looks for excuses to vote with the liberals the rationalizations that he comes up with just reaches the best. You can get out of him. It's the same thing that john roberts tries to grab onto that. He doesn't want to be an activist judge. So therefore he's not somebody that's willing to overturn really much of anything. In this instance. He says what he and the four prevailing justices in wisconsin challenges through election. Law have to be your heart hurt at the circuit court. Will that's true. It says that the reason we give the supreme court discretion to do whatever they want. Is there a circumstance which leaving something to the circuit court means that the courts are going. Resolve it if you've got an election that's got to be resolved in the next three weeks by having it go through a process of a year and a half year not resolving anything. It's the same stunt that hagedorn polled earlier this year. I'm throwing off the voter registration. Rolls the people who are on the purge list that case is still pending in front of the supreme court. It's going to be heard and argued next year while the election's over true we'll get a legal ruling that will affect the future but it wasn't a time for the current election time. Is it going to get in the way here. Even though you know to use the popular allergy were arguing here about whether or not the barn door should be closed at the time in which the cows are running out of the barn in some cases instead of worrying about procedure. At a time. Line you have to take immediate action or the whole thing becomes mood becomes irrelevant but as they say hagedorn just keeps coming up with these excuses. This would perhaps be acceptable if it ever worked in reverse. I'm waiting you know. When rebecca dallet ran for the supreme court. I had a lot of people milwaukee in the league. Localism community and said march is not that liberal. I know her. she's not that liberal got this a lot of people including judges. She's not that liberal. She had to say she was liberal. In order to get the support of the liberals and get their money in the campaign. She's not that liberal. When she was in milwaukee county circuit judge wasn't really a softy. I had a million people. Tell me that case. She's been on the supreme court you know how many times she's broken ranks with the liberals not what case i of so. She's really dot that liberal. How come she hasn't pulled a haggard auditor adverse and wandered over to join our side. Ever in when i say ever i mean there may be small cases in you know. Somebody's arguing about a plumbing license. Some case that gets to the supreme court where you know but other major important cases that we've seen over the last few years the headline cases that everyone is paying attention to and so on she is a solid member of that liberal bloc and never breaks ranks with it. Surely abraham was on the court for decades. When did she ever wander often. Joined the conservatives. United states supreme court waited ruth bader ginsburg. Ever tell the lefties. You know what i can't be with you on this time. You're nuts this time ethic. Go over there and vote with scalia and clarence thomas in that it never happens. It never even happens once much less somebody just coming over enjoyed nightside permanently. He never happens. It's also true on the local judiciary local circuit court saying county waukesha county. Nobody runs for judge in waukesha county claiming they're a liberal. Nobody nobody but many of them get on the bench and waukesha county and become liberal. Like laura law is becoming and before her ralphie ramirez this a bunch of 'em the tend to move in that direction at a county like milwaukee. They're all liberal right now. Now the uber's is going to be pointing all the judges ed. The voting basis liberal. It's a different kind of thing. But the point that i'm making his even conservative counties judges who appear to be conservative when they're seeking election to the bench not all of them but some of them tend to drift over to the left aside knight. Everybody does but this point that i'm making here. In which illustrated the fight of the democratic party as it is being dragged even farther to the left. Now to the point that barack obama's trying to slow him not imagine that in wisconsin supreme court in so odd. There is something of an explanation for this. And i want to get to that something of an explanation and i want to talk about my role therefore in trying to address it. We'll do that at eleven thirty. W i s n mark belling late afternoon show since people. Give me these theories. They're usually stupid sometimes their dad. Somebody gives me the theory that one of the reasons that christmas is starting earlier in earlier and earlier as because of the fake christmas trees. That's the theory. You understand this theory or not. You disagree though. I asked didn't ask you if you agree with that. I said you understand that theory. Well what what is the three explain. His theory lot of wipe you have to water dis. What else you put it up anytime you why. Here's the thing if you have a live tree usually can't buy it too early because it only lasts a long people have alive tree idol china. Remember when i was a kid you still get live trees yet. I hear your kids in there anymore though. Is that why or you just because you're just lazy goldberg out. Which of the to use the this year is because you're lazy that the answer i asking the raise. It is it because you're lazy this year. You don't want to chop down or what why you wanted to change or your wife wanted a change so it's one more thing where your wife ought to do something and you're going to go along with it. When did you when did you. When did you Would you had the live tree which generally put it up. The after really at lasted that long. You cut it. I mean when. I was a kid. I just seems to me everything started later. You know eight. Hundred years ago. When i was a kid. It seemed to me that it was the middle of december. Did that tree would come in. And i know for the generation before me. They often come. They put the tree up a day or two before christmas. In fact christmas eve and that was because the christmas season didn't start until then but they were try to keep it up until the middle of january. Because you're at christmas season so anyway. This guy is the theory that because the fake christmas tree can be going up at any time razali. One only lasts for so long that. That's why things are in somebody. People use the fake trees the too cheap to get the actual tree of what a hassle with the real tree you know then the needles come falling down off bed all that see. If you have a real. I think if you have a real tree you should be rich. Rich people should have royalties because they could have people to clean all that up right. You're worried i don't know but you never cleaned it up. Be i mean if you if you had people that evacuated every day you would have a real tree. wouldn't you. Yeah see but you don't have that all right now on this point that i have in making aboud the inexorable drift to the left that you see from almost everyone in government some resisted but it just becomes a hired thing that people you know. You'll see for example. What are the things happened over. Time is a republican gets in there liberals. Hate him when they get in twenty five years later. They're okay with the ones that have been in for twenty five years but they hit the new ones. And that's because the ones in for twenty five years in many instances have drifted as i say to the left over to their side. It's not always true. There's exceptions but it happens quite a bit. I think the biggest explanation for it is an i explained earlier. The democratic side this gregarious this really both sides gregarious. This of people want to get along with everybody and so forth and so on bought and this points related to that almost all of the pressure if you are in public officer and public life almost all of the pressure applied to u. comes the left who questions public officials the media and the questions the media all come from the left the pressure groups the social interest groups. The overwhelming majority of them are from the left. Who is it that goes to work for government. You know the people who work in the staffs and so on the people who say it for the rest of my life involved in governmental work. These tend to be people who are more liberal than the population as a whole for example. It's overwhelmingly leftist organization. Filled with lefty people from was up against dealing with the federal bureaucracy forever because everybody in it is liberal. So when you're in office almost all the pressure that is applied to you comes from the left. Everything pushes them in that direction. Going back and choosing a community is a community that comes to mind that out of choose to pick on how. 'bout here's what i hardly ever use. Monopoly falls off the manabe fall. School super dental gets up and says it's a racist nickname. And i hate look at the sign in the wall as this that and the other thing. If you're a member of the school board that precious from your superintendent. He's pressure regular from the left. How many times you think a superintendent has walk through a school and said you know what. I really liked that indian thing we got. That doesn't happen or you know. I don't think we should be calling ourselves eagles anymore. Let's call ourselves chiefs arabians. Where does that happen. Never so the pressure. I knew the vast vast majority of comes from the left in addition to that the organize citizenry politicians tell me for example all the time mark on these issues. I know that you and a lot of people in your audience. Believe a certain thing but our calls are overwhelmingly the other side again. The squeaky wheel gets the grease and liberals are part of all these groups they have all these mailing list. I mentioned this ground level organizing that they've been doing in the suburbs here. Wa tosa tosa. Together heather cools group. And all this and there's a bunch of others that are like this they get these people together and they get into these organizations and they're pressuring government on ninety seven different issues the regular person and it's getting worse not better. Who's conservative doesn't do that. And here's one of the reasons. It's getting worse right now. So many people are terrified of being outed as a conservative because of the ostracism that you get who wants to write a letter to a public official telling them to do something if that person is fertile. All my goodness. I'm they're gonna find out at work that i've a conservative and i'm going to be harassed you have to be fired. I was told for a you know. There are a number of people whether republicans in the legislature haven't tried to get rid of the mask requirement in wisconsin and a few of them talked me this bark ninety percent of our calls and ninety percent of the emails that we get support this now. I realize if you're in the ten percent that that's not anything that makes you happy but left. He's a real organized this and they've got all these groups all of these hospital groups support the hospitals and so they have all their all pushing all of this stuff. The pressure if you are in public office almost always comes from the left at almost every level internally the media your staff other members and often even comments of the citizenry now there are issues which conservatives get organized edwin conservatives get organized in mass number we have achieved positive results. There have been some local communities where the community was going to do something lefty and the committee rise up in opposition. They convince them to stop. But let's be honest. How often does that happen. The times had happened from the other side are way more. Frequent requires a very firm back backbone and incredible self confidence to withstand this. You've gotta be willett while you've got. I mean i could see added on the other hand. I'm one of the rare people in life who has been rewarded reinforced for not caving in buckley if i caved in buckled all the time. If you know. If i pull the charlie sites and so what. I'd be off editing the bullhead or whatever that is that he's doing and not making the money that i make it instead. We've got the most listened to radio program in the state of wisconsin and presiding over right here. So i mean there's a reward factor in me standing by grounded offering conservative content. So i haven't faced the kind of all the pressure that means anything comes to the left that most people in government have but i think i could withstand it. I think if i was the government and understand that all these people were telling me. I'm crazy and this that and the other thing you're a right wing nut so forth. I still think i would do the right thing. I'm pretty firm this but just about everybody runs for office. Says that they're going to be but for most people. It's very very hard to resist the longer they get in there. The worst tends to be again. There's exceptions clarence. Thomas has moved a bat. I mean he's better a and the supreme court for thirty years. I don't think. Rebecca bradley is going to move a bed. Wisconsin supreme court in the legislature. There are some republicans republican are just for. I don't see a of squishy. Say a dui strobl but when the movement does occur. It's almost never try to think of in public life. The number of people you know that over time have moved to the right in the courts. It's not existed as i said seven years. Nobody can name one. So i don't want judge in rhode island you get the drift. You gotta go and you have to. You have to be really obscure to come up with the one but it's true it almost every level of government somebody who started side of as modern as become a hardcore conservative. There are a few that we've seen a pulse. Lindsey graham appears to be but a little bit to the right. And i think in his case he just after suck it up to lefties forever when they turned out a couple of times of the trend to out of and talked about sexuality and all of this stuff he just got his backup saying screw this when he saw what they did. The brett cavanaugh. He saw the ugly side of kamla harrison dianne feinstein and that goon spot over there and how they were willing to destroy people but it's it's a rare occurrence for to occur anyway getting my role in this i get a lot of local government officials in some republicans in the legislature. And so on. They're often unhappy with me when i turn him. And i've explained my role. Look all the pressure you guys get some the left. This almost nobody to apply pressure from the right. And that's what i'm doing. Somebody's gotta bucky. Walk on this ed. And i've speaking if it in a conservative community and with regard to elected republicans. I'm speaking for the majority of the people who voted for you. Those lefties it keeps second to none of them voted for you. Brian hagedorn keeps making happy. All the people who tried to destroy him and black election to the supreme court. How many of the people that voted for. That voted for him are made happy by this. You can take it to the same thing. With regard to the local level that so odd most of these people who get elected as republicans they're conservatives had an opponent was more liberal the people who voted for them. We're looking for someone. Who was conservative. And i wrote their bucking them up and trying to shove them to the right ed. It's not like my voice. Does it have merit. And there's a few others vicky and talk about it but all the other pressure we have in society comes from the left. I have even mentioned the culture. The attitudes push that us by television and the movies the celebrity culture the pressure that's applied to corporations in which they go squishy and corporations are another one. They respond to pressure and the pressure comes almost entirely from the left seriously. Now how much pressure has been applied dependency to get him to shut up with all of his republicans are racist and so on. Can you imagine if pansy was the exact same thing but he was saying things from the right like this caught up. Lefties is a bunch of communists and the ad and i place it burned down by now. And i'm not suggesting people do anything like that. But he doesn't pay much of a price in terms of any pushback but if someone from the left us their corporate. I mean you've got corporations if they have one member of the board of directors. It's going to be a conservative. They're under fire. Just a member of the board of the. Who's this guy. Penza your wants your business. You're a bunch of racists this that and the other thing. yeah if you vote for trump. don't come into my store. That's what he said if somebody said if a business you know come into my store mean every day there'd be people throwing rocks at the window of that store but if you if you do this stuff i say from the left you face very very very little pressure consequence and that's because the overwhelming pressure throughout our society comes from the left and it's certainly my point. Here was the disgust government. But that's why it occurs with regard to the judiciary. That's a harder one to figure out because most of these judges are elected you know. State supreme court justices are elected for ten years. Federal judges are elected for appointed for life circuit. Judges usually don't face opposition when they run for reelection in their case the drift over is harder to get a beat on. It's one of the reasons why. I always stress to my audience that it's when these judges are being appointed for the first time are running for the first time that we need to get it right. It's to the great credit of trump. The his federal court nominees have people who showed no signs of be pushiness. Moving off to the other side. You may recall that. The second bush w bush tried to appoint her original designate for the united states. Supreme court was harriet myers. Remember her i and many other conservatives applied extreme pressure to get bush the drop that nomination because of the strong belief that she was going to be squishy and selig out. There were some people in my audience. Is that give her a chance. No way give her a chance. These appointments set for life. You can't afford to get them wrong if you have any doubt you've got to stop. It's been clear here in wisconsin. There's always only one conservative that runs for the supreme court. There's never two of them in a primary because the legal community to kind of get together and say okay. It's your turn. We don't want to divide the vote in a pri- and i get that. If you got four candidates running in three conservatives you know or let's say it's too to. You could have the to liberals get through. I get i get the whole point of that. But we may perhaps have not been doing enough scrutiny of some of these candidates as to who they are. And i'm not quite do claim that i'm blameless here. I was buffalo by brian. Hagedorn to i said bought a year ago. The it's possible that these cases where he's moved off to the left and we're just aberrations and we'll have to take a wait and see well. It's not aberration anymore anytime you need him. The guy's not there for you. Just the way it is and i would say right now we already have a four three liberal majority on the supreme court because it looks to me like hey going to be with the liberal wing more often than the conservative way and again make reverses this and turns it around but once these judges drifting to the left. It's almost impossible to find an instance of a reversal of that drift. Like roberts yeah. I mean it's now the no he's not i. In fact i think in the case of roberts. He's now that now that amy barrett is out at six three he'll just make it five four by just the liberals on almost everything right. But i suspect and roberts would be another case of you know you can't find a prominent conservative legal thinker. Who saw this coming from. Robertson said this is a bad point where we all thought provinces great appointment of one of the ways you can tell. Let's bay department is a leftist for tara. Lippo's john roberts remember that the extremely appro opposed to him so that was another one where you just. You couldn't see a cub. You've you've got to look for extreme resolve i think. In retrospect one of the best things that happened with regard to clarence thomas was when they tried to character assassinate him with that layer anita hill and those terrible hearings in which they allowed it to come up with those uncorroborated allegations the kind of stink job that they pulled that many conservative legal Nominee sense that. But thomas thomas is one of the first thing we clarence. Thomas saw what liberals are willing to do to destroy him. I think if anything it gave him a more firm resolve. Look if i get on there. I am going to stay true to my principles because i understand how ugly the other side is that because i am a black conservative. They want to destroy me as a human being because they don't want to accept the legitimacy of someone who is both african american and a conservative legal scholar and the treatment that he got an. I suspect the same thing might happen with brett capita that he saw the ugly and see of what the liberals are now that he's on there. There's talk you know. If they get the united states senate up impeaching him i even. I think that's farfetched. The likely would be packing the court and adding justices. But that's all going to be resolved by that election in georgia. I mean they're either going to get the saturday night and that elections now few weeks away. The two elections where they're going to elect to united states senators in those runoff elections. What are you saying. Well another point. You make pause upset the julia louis. Dreyfus is telling people to vote for enjoyed saying they don't judge i don't either i don't either. Are you saying. I can't tell people that who have the vote for producing lawford on their policies. It ruined seinfeld. Well that is. The challenge is how much you're gonna put up at the now. If you if you decide that you're not gonna do anything but that involved with the lefty cova people hated. Joe biden down there in the basement. The everybody's got their lines that they have to put in place and it's a personal choice that you make and like i say in some cases penzone says don't come into my store. I mean okay. I want to go into your stupid store and buy your overpriced cinnamon anyway. Yes right. I band you from going in there you ought to. You ought to keep going. And even though he was like gobbled in your face. I hear you are right wing racist okay here. Give me fourteen dollars in australia. Some basil it's probably past the expiration expiration date. But that's the thing about spices. I don't do. They ever expire. Keep it for forever. I my sister gave me a bunch of them years ago at. I said to these ever go rotten though. But i mean how can that be. I mean they're they're grown out of the ground. I mean it's not like there's vinegar or alcohol in their killing the germs. How could it be. Maybe that's what they are. The spices like the plant has gone rotten and died. That's what it is like like you know i. I know it just seems a little weird. I know i've got stuff in there. I move some of that stuff. I got stuff in there. That's where you can't shake. Oh that see. i'm single. That's when you grabbed the night it's third scoop out of the Sommese anybody actually has to go to penn z. To buy spices given that long it takes a single guy to go through a thing spices. Other than partly which you throw a lot of that. And i don't mean salt and pepper but you hawaii to get through a jar basil. I still have to i. I got it when i was eighteen. It's still all right news. Talk eleven thirty. W y s and mark belling late afternoon. Show this little garbage. Can you know you're for people like meet as rotates to you know this garbage. Can you sit over. Here is one. That's right here. I can't believe habit. Notice this until now but you know how you just don't notice certain things. There was a bumper sticker on this garbage. Can there is. You didn't notice it here. Apparently this is what. I've read all these w. e. n. P. twelve fifty. I do not only not only does that states should not exist. It's never once but part of our company. Why is the bumper sticker for that state. They haven't been on the air and idle fifteen twenty years. I don't know. I don't know how he got that dan. Or maybe somebody at a sticker. It put it on the poll. I bet this is on your for fifteen years. That i just noticed that until now i don't i don't think somebody put that on last night. I've never really thought about it. A they've never. They're not part of the up. Iheart predecessor clear channel. They're the part of the editor. Calm the other one down the area and but they long then. They became one of the sports stations. The w crap or whatever it is what is that one w. p. s. Is that what it is for the whatever it was you know so. They've been that for a long time. And i think they might have had religion there at the at some point. They did do all these. That's true that stick around. You're all right. One of the points that i have made again and again and again during the ten the governor walker was. The governor was that i felt he should move some of the state agencies out of madison. No law that says a state agency has to be based on the state capital and not every one of one of them is in illinois for example. A huge number of state agencies are based in chicago and not the state capital of springfield. I got nowhere that i have been adamant that the republican party needs to move it state headquarters out of madison and again. They have chosen not to do this because the people who work for the republican party want to live in madison. Which is part of the problem. You have madison's with madison type thinking governing. Our republican party whose constituency litter barely exists in madison. There are republicans in madison. But it's obviously a tiny number. The strength of the republican party is it other parts of the state and the orion -ffected with this madison type of thinking by having staffers. That are for madison. The same thing happens with regard to the state legislature. You have these lawmakers that are elected from all over the state of wisconsin. They get too mad at some of the staffers could have but a lot of them. You know they all. The staffers all live in madison year. Round because they have a year round position the lawmakers you know they spend months back in their districts but the staff there there in madison. All the time. And you have lot you have the staff. The lobbyists the entire institution. That's based in madison. The republican party itself is based in madison. All of these things are in this liberal enclave. And they can't. I think relate to what's going out of the lives of everyone else and it's especially changing now that you're seeing this realignment of the two parties that occurred under trump. Clearly some in the suburbs are moving from the republican side of the democratic side. But at the same time rural areas small towns the areas away from the bigger cities are moving dramatically to the republicans. I think part of it is income the middle class and lower class every coming. The base of the republican party used to think of the republicans as know the country club republican types. There aren't many of those anymore. They've moved over to the democratic side. But the blue-collar especially blue-collar non union type jobs. This is becoming the base of the republican front with again there's very little ability for these weighty twenty republicans who are the lobbying field of political consultancy. Fielder hanger madison to relate to her understand those people. Explain something about that. Explain something about that. I have to be able to relate to who conservatives are. Because if i didn't nobody would listen to my show. I'm not saying that everything. I do makes everybody in the audience. Happy but if. I was all charlie sakes on ya you know. Look at domino's that basic conservatives brennan his thing does he call it. The the bullhead or the bulls eye or whatever that they don't. Don't worry paul nobody else reads it either. No but nobody else reads it either. i would audience and again. I don't alter my points of view to say what the audience wants to hear. But i think. I am in touch with what conservatives think i understand maybe i don't pick up right away but i have to force myself to learn plus i have an interest in learning. What was it about. Trump's appeal that. I missed in sixteen. That was happening. You knew somebody people and you come to realize that. Many people were very very resistant to this. Permanent power structure this notion of. Why are we still in afghanistan. When trump talked about some of those things. They really really hit home. why are we outsourcing. Our whole country to china is something that we have to do all these things at the elitist roll their eyes that with regard to trump gravitated to that message bought the people that are elected to state government and run the republican party and so on they are surrounded by people who do not think lake that you got robin boss now. Writing a commercial telling people to stay home. What do you need. The republican leader of the legislature to tell people to stay home for there are more than enough democrats to tell us stay home. I sure hope. I don't see robert out in public anytime soon. Other than being in the legislature. I robin that going to dinner or doing anything. Say since he's running these ads though on the radio. Hey stay home. It's not a message. Most of your constituents want to hear we're sick and tired of people telling us to stay home. If somebody wants to stay home you don't because you know what they're smart enough to figure that out for themselves. I know a lot of people who don't wanna go all right now. That's their right. I'm fine with that. But they're not gonna get a stay home scale. Do what i wanna do. They don't need you to tell them that. And you certainly don't need republicans to run around and telling people all this boston around to do this. This is your responsibility. We've got enough lefties media and everybody else to do that. But i'm sure south of robin's madison. Staffers told it's a good idea. And i'm sure the hospital association asked him to do it. And i'm sure. Some lobbyists pat him on the head as he stands there with a with a marxist mark poll can run these commercials janas of stay home. That's bipartisan thing. New bipartisan thing. Is do what you wanna do. Make your own decisions with regard to covid. There's a different answer for everyone. This ought to still be america where we don't need a bunch of politicians. Tell us when we can leave the damn house right scared. Well he says he says you can. So i if. I shouldn't be saying it all. Keep your mouth shut. We got enough democrats. Tell people what to do if i tell people what they do pay out. I could tell you to go out if you feel safe to what i'll thank go out. That's a good thing. Support these businesses. Should you wear the mask. I don't think it does any good or not. But i'm gonna wear the mask again. Were mask but out you know you know this is what happens. When reformer like robin his now that in madison for what fourteen sixteen eighteen years surrounded by all so surrounded by all these madison. To like i say these do and the ad for some of the hospital association some lobbyists that gets a good idea and this that and the other thing and it's the thing that happens and it's been the theme of the first half of the show here but i'll nobod- they move on. Yeah all right. Four twenty odd. We've got our football preview coming up at five forty five this afternoon and they got for milwaukee. This is the mark belling late afternoon. Show on news. Talk eleven thirty. W i said interesting story. Today's wall street journal page wide college. Loan debt hits. Parents hired a. Here's why that where the story is coming from. It's clear that one of the big issues in the biden administration is going to be a push by the left to forgive student. Loan debt once they start throwing these things out. It doesn't take long before they become a movement and again. If you're a family that has student loan debt. Why wouldn't you be in favor of it. It's one of those things where the majority may think. It's a pretty stupid idea to say that people who borrowed money got the benefit of that money shouldn't have to pay it back but the people of the strongest opinions are the ones that. Oh the money if paula to five thousand debt and somebody said to me. Hey should that guy. Forgive paul's five thousand dollars. That i'd probably say no i don't think they should but why really care. You know who cares paul. So it's one of those democrats have done this forever. This is how they buy votes by money for this money for that money for the other thing. Now you live a world in which this is again this battle. Clean elitist sonata leaders. Where a lot of people didn't take out any student loan debt because the kids didn't go to college the decided to go into something else wondering why tens of thousands of dollars should just be not paid back by people who got the benefit of the money in the first place or the person whose family came up with cash in paid their way through. They didn't do the debt. Nobody's going to give them their money back in any event the story. That was interesting when you hear some of the people talking about the hardships that they're facing. And in many instances here. The story focuses on parents that it's the parents who are taking the responsibility of paying the debt. Back now again. That's a real new concept for me. There student loans. But i went to college but fire. Lower percentage of people got them and the dollar amounts not only college tuition cheaper but the amount of money that people were taking out incredible. But i don't think in my era. I heard of a single person whose family pay the loan back. The loan was going to be paid back. The whole point was okay. You borrow the money you get a good job after college. Then you pay it back the notion that mom and dad was. I've never heard of that. I never heard of that fact that i was of that era. You hear of that in your era. Never but it's a thing now. Parents pay for a portion of the college. They got a thirty year old kid. They're gonna pay back the loan. Let me quote though some because the comments here are actually interesting. I'm not denying that there's a real hardship you're talking about somebody who may be twenty eight twenty nine years old and they got one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in debt. I can't fathom at that stage in my life. Given what i was making had hundred fifty thousand for me when i was twenty. Three thousand in debt would have been a lot. It is a hardship build out about that. Which is why they shouldn't have gotten it. Shouldn't have taken on the load in the first place anyway. I wanna read some lines of the story. Poor and middle income parents at hundreds of colleges have taken on substantial debt amount sometimes more than twice their annual income to help their children to school new federal figures show. Now let me stop one of the things that this story has pointed out and i guess i sort of knew this but i didn't either didn't think about when you think about the families that are taking on the student loan debt. What schools are you normally thinking of you really you're thinking of. Uw ash cash student loan. I my immediate thought would be marquette that you you take out the student loan student loan to go to marquette because it's an expensive school. It's not taxpayer. Supported or i would say the ivy league universities. It's very expensive to go to harvard yale in cornell and so odd that's what my thought would have been but the story points out that well that's an issue. The real problem is not those schools because let's face it a lot of the kids that go to harvard and nails coming from rather affluent families in the first place. Affluent families often have kids. Who were able to get the best education when they were younger. And so on some of these middle class poor families kids are going to very different kinds of schools than harvard but getting a lot of loans for them. So let's pick up the story. The schools with the largest parent to debt burdens and again parody is the debt held by parents. The parrot parents debt burdens aren't world-famous ivy league schools. A wall street journal analysis found rather they include art schools. Historically black colleges and small private colleges that would be schools like say carol where parents are borrowing. nearly six figure amounts to fulfill their children's college dribs. Not let me interject. Let's bring this home locally in thinking about that. How many kids. That went to my ad at big student loan debt. I bet a lot. My ad is the milwaukee institute of art art and designs private very small private college focusing on exactly what that thing said. But it's not a government institution private institution. I don't know what the tuition is. I'm sure it's high art school. The small liberal arts colleges beloit. Carol lakeland up in appleton lawrence locally stretch mount mary tuition at those schools is very very high and many of the kids who go to these schools. Come from middle. Class families of the story is pointing out that some of the greatest debt burdens are being held by parents who sent their kids to schools like that back to the story for the first time the us education department through its annual release of college financial data provided information wednesday on the level of debt of parents a level of debts parents took on through a federal college loan program called parent plus so this is just one of many programs out there but they took a look at the numbers apparent plus previously the department released information a debt levels of students at specific colleges and universities but not the borrowing taken on by parents on a student's behalf in other words they're focusing here on loans that were actually taken out by the parent. People what. I'm talking about to a quickly explain it. Pause kids went to school. Imagine what your kids went to a private school that an expensive most cases they take out a student loan debt and the debt loan is in the name of the student but many cases appearance just going to borrow the money themselves for instance. Let's imagine paul's daughter went to explain. Paul borrowed one hundred twenty five thousand dollars. He and his wife bought. They're focusing on this program where it's actually the parents that are on the hook. The parents took out the loan. We talk a lot about the students that have the debt. This story is focusing on the mound. Dad's borrowed out the wazoo to send their kids to school back to the story. The parents plus data provide a more complete financial picture of how recent graduates have paid for their post-secondary secondary education. The education department said in a statement wednesday the amount might be burdensome for many parents. At nearly one hundred fifty colleges parents typically took out loans worth fifty thousand dollars or more data show at more than one hundred schools. The median about they borrowed was between twenty five and fifty thousand the again. This is just the debt that the parents out if the kids had student loans of their own. That's in addition to these events. Parents have graduates from spelman college. A historically black school in atlanta borrowed immediate media means in the middle one hundred twelve thousand dollars. We're not talking harvard here. Spelman black school in atlanta the median. Load right in the middle. Take it up by parents. Not the kids to send their kids to spelman in. Atlanta is one hundred twelve thousand dollars. I'm sure the majority of kids who go to spell again. It's predominantly black school. I not real rich. Sure a few are most. They're probably not hundred and twelve thousand dollars in debt. Imagined that if your family income is forty five. I can't even fathom it back to the story. that's more than any other school in the country. The data show about half of spelman parents take out loans through parent plus now. Let me interject these colleges and their financial aid departments. They're very good at hooking up families prospective students and their parents and all these different programs that are out there. No doubt in this case spelman directed a lot of the prospective students and their parents to this parent plus program saying hey mom and dad can borrow the money and the next thing you know. Kids are saying they want to go to the school. Parents say well spell a good school for an african american kid to go to they borrow the money and spell the now has the money and that's the thing with regard to this racket on student loans. It's like a loan for anything else. Let's suppose paul bios one hundred thousand dollars to buy. What would you buy with a hundred thousand dollars. Well like if you could buy one thing for one hundred thousand dollars you'd have to. What would it be. you're so boring. I do shed. Are you telling me. Are you telling me. I know you're outdoor kitchens. Expensive that you're gonna spend a hundred thousand dollars on a shed invite set one hundred thousand you more. I w why are you driving me crazy today. If you if you were about one hundred thousand for something what would you. What i'll just but why did i just interject see a bad example. Because i'm trying to talk about somebody that is not in a position. I think to afford one hundred thousand dollar loan. But let's imagine that someone does it so somebody byles one hundred thousand dollars because they want to. You know a great rang like some eighty billion carat diamond ring or something or another the jeweler dot gets the money if you buy the body and its bio to the store itself if you borrow it from a bank. They get the money or paul's case the shed or whatever they have the money. The college has got paid. They have the money so of course. They're good at what courage to bile mansion. I was in business. Don't sell it a bunch of stuff. If i'm not financing the loan itself for up having repossess a person doesn't make the payment. If i actually get the check with the bay. I'm going to bow body. I'll sell all this stuff to. Yeah what do. I care if you can't afford it. And that's it's been going on with these colleges and universities they jack up the tuition they encourage everybody to take out the loans because once they get the money they have. The body sorry continues. These numbers don't include the loans. The student took out individually in many cases. Parent loans dwarf what students can borrow through the federal government which cap get about thirty one thousand dollars for dependent students so the federal student loan program on how much you can buy mama. Dad could buy whatever they want to the extent of. What our lenders gotta give them. Many of the borrowers. I low income. Spelman parents whose children received pell grants typically reserved for poor students took out a media and eighty four thousand dollars through the parrot loan program. Think about that in order to get a pell grant you gotta be long but even though the families that are low income the median loan taken out at spelman was eighty four thousand dollars. It's eighty four thousand dollars. Essentially taken out by poor people could see what the story's going in a statement. Spelman president mary schmidt campbell said the school has been working to address the issue quote. We recognized how crippling loans could be for our families. As a result of this reckoning three years ago the college began to aggressively campaign to close that unfunded gap and reduce the need for loans through a donor campaign. The college raise more than one hundred billion dollars in new financial aid in the past three years the data released comes as policy makers. Continue to debate how to provide relief to borrowers for record levels of college. Loan debt democrat. President president elect joe biden. A democrat has said he would push to cancel one ten thousand dollars in student debt for every borrower with federal loans. He has also said he would forgive any student debt among families that cover tuition at public colleges and historically black colleges. He hasn't said whether he would support changes to lending program such as parents flaws. The education department requires only a scant check of appearance credit history before extending loans that it performs no assessment of their ability to repay. Sounds like the credit card companies. Send all this crap in the mail but even they run a credit check through the result. Some parents have taken on amount. They have little hope of repaying student. Get researchers said. The loans are often tacked onto the financial aid packages to fill the gap between student borrowing limits and cost of tuition vote. Our goals were to make sure our children go to college to get their degree so they can support themselves. That was our mission. In life said serena harris sixth year old mother of three children from toledo. Ohio ms harris estimated that she ballot about fifty thousand dollars for her daughter to attend to lourdes university. A private school in sylvania ohio. About double the school's media debt load for parents of about twenty five thousand dollars. According to the data harris said her husband died of pancreatic cancer in two thousand and three she. Her daughter told her she said her daughter told her the only way she could stay in school was if she borrowed from the parents plus program harris. A medical assistant who at the time was earning about forty thousand dollars. A year said she was laid off during the recession that began in oh seven and declared bankruptcy she said the government garnish your wages and tax refunds in recent years to start to recover the unpaid debt starting five years ago. Lord's noticed high amounts of high default rates on student loans among former students and parents at financial aid director. Kelly's ache now. The story goes on a couple of comments about this. I would like to right. Now tell you the level of sympathy. I have for the people that are in this situation. Not none none explain why we come back on news. Talk eleven thirty. Wins edmark dumbing late afternoon. Show please tell me why. I understand empathizing with people who are under unpredicted. Please tell me why we should feel badly for people who borrow it a lot of money that they afford to pay back. We used to have a term for that deadbeat. You know you avoid being deadbeat. You don't borrow money a can't afford to pay back. Here's what's happened over. The last number of years was student loan. Debt the normal. Can i afford this equation. That most of us put in with our borrowing doesn't cut it. You look at the buy a house you kind of think. How much could afford payment. can i handle. You're looking to buy a car. Maybe you can buy that fifty thousand dollar. Ford explorer gussied up. But you can't buy the land rover you evaluate how much you can afford five looking to buy it a horse. I'm not out there on my own. Buying a three million dollar rate source. I can't afford it. We all make these decisions with regard everything even if you make the decision at borrowing buddy you factor in how much without going through all the whole wake. I've told the story in the past. I went to the cross. It was lacrosse. Her madison where my final tio. I'd never considered going to a private college. Because i would have had to borrow more money than i would have felt comfortable with. My idea was that i was gonna go into something pertaining to the. Bdi those jobs paid not a lot and make any money to in my mid thirties. So therefore i knew that i couldn't barrel thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars. Because i do. i couldn't pay it back. I wasn't going to get any money from my family and anybody. Who's gonna pay it back. So i didn't do it so years ago. It pretty much was like that for a while and the next thing you know people decide that their kids are gonna go to the college that they want to go to a not the one they can afford sixty thousand dollars to go to school. How do you intend to pay that back. But selling your paintings at the at the at the lakefront festival of the arts. Go to art school. A lotta these private college. But there's a zillion of they were all pushing these student loans and then charging monstrously high tuition above with the market would bear because the loan was outside of normal market forces. Put a sticker price the education that gives this to go. I want i want. I want i want i. What what we have lost with regard to higher education in the united states he said some market forces. There's a reckoning coming on this. It's i mentioned a yesterday's program. With the declining birth rate there are way fewer kids they go out there and many of them are going to learn the lesson from the millennials above them and not want to take on all of this massive debt besides the reason that we have public universities and their price of course go out up to but the reason that the state of wisconsin operates all these. Uw system campuses is for the purpose of providing higher education to the masses at a lower cost. Then if you would spend if you went to marquette or mount. Mary harvard notre dame ready those schools taxpayers pay a huge portion of the cost of operating them. The private schools are on their own. They get it through tuition and donations. Therefore they have to charge a lot more. All these parents took on their dead. Those kids got to go to school at a lot of parents instead of sending their kids to this gus fide private school sent their kids to a public school. Some of these big cities abbas uw abbas example. So for thirty thousand kids that go to uw wwl over thirty thousand and the majority of them. We'll go there go there. Because it's within their affordability rage now if you have a really sharp kid who's got an interesting going into a career in which the pay is very high for example if i had a kid and was technically oriented. He said he really wanted to be at engineer. And i had a lot of money. I think i'd be comfortable taking on a big loan at msn way. Because going into the anything in engineering. If you're good at it and the kids responsible enough to finish the probably make a lot of money. And i'm guessing they could pay that loan back but if you got a lot of money how do you take all of this debt for some kid that says i want to be an english major. Not everybody did this. There's another class. Warfare component of this. Where once again. We have a bias toward rewarding. Those who chose a college career. This is another one of these gaps that you see that i think so many of the people who supported trump they fall into this this resentment that a bunch of people who decided to go to college. I'm going to buy a ton of money now. I don't have to pay it back when their kid decided to learn how to be a diesel mechanic and didn't take out any college that works hard every day dealing with that. Why are we supposed to forgive the data for someone who bought something. They couldn't afford or there were realistic with their kids about. What was affordable. now. I understand public universities. There's a lot of debt on there and in some cases the kid in to work while in college. You know what i understand. Public university costs have gone way up. But unless you're just borrowing to live off of it's hard to get one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in debt to go to. Uw oshkosh but people have that have gone. Went to some of these private schools. Because unless they got tremendous scholarships and so on the cost was that high at mom and dad are taking out the loans themselves and mom and dad are making combined. Forty five or fifty thousand dollars a year where we're mom and dad's brains in assessing how much they could afford you go to the mercedes dealer. They have the I mean i. I don't much like all the foreign cars use letters rather the names for their cars. But with somebody like bruce eighties but they got so many cars. If they didn't have the letters you couldn't keep straight which was which. Well i when it comes to mercedes the lower. The letter is in the alphabet the cheaper the car is in other words. The cla doesn't cost as much as the last said like they had. The e series is in the middle of the series is above that and the a series is the little one it. So i've they got the for the suv. My point is so people go to the mercedes dealer. And they're looking for one of those series trucks of the mini. Suv's and somebody else is going to go out and ask about the may back. That's the ones that are like. Almost limos and somebody else is going to go to the used car. Lot of these dealer and look for a two thousand fifteen to each what they could afford to each what they prioritize in life college has gone haywire on this it is rewarded universities that have done nothing to control their cost because they've just jacked up the tuition because everybody was going out there borrowing their way to get in. It created a bubble in the same way that the housing market bubbled back at. Oh seven and eight with everybody taking on way too much debt in buying houses. They couldn't afford if you borrow more than you can afford. And you don't pay it back. You got bankruptcy. That's the way it works. Call makes a good point. If we're gonna forgive this that how do we get off. Take it away. Somebody's five or hardware store house when they can't pay off their market. He's a choices people made. And if bit off more than you can show what happens when you bite off more than you chew you. Whatnot seaview bite off more than another one of those sayings. Though that i have to anti you bite off more than you do. Spit it out of too much of what i do. Spit it out puke. I'd be biden's gob it out. That's dumb an allergy up. Whether they they could chew. I mean i could see eating more than i. You know what happened. You bit off more than you can show. There's no if we're just accept this notion that all we really wanted to do this for the kids that everybody by their house a kid. A mansion on lake drive in five years from now with the bank says. Hey where's my money. Just forgive it out of the government. Forget let him live there forever. I mean what the know what. There are colleges and universities for every price range at one of the attractive options. Lot of families are look at it especially now that these colleges are too lazy to even opened up their doors because some fat professors afraid to getting the covid online universities which the cost of which are generally dramatically lower. Because they don't have to put up campuses. They don't have the brick and mortar. They don't have the laboratory facilities and so odd they offer a financial incentive for those that don't want to spend or don't have the ability to spend a fortune. I believe i just as i say. I empathize anybody. Who gets in over their head. I'm not a cruel per city just in the same way that if somebody buys a house they can't afford if they buy a business that they can't pay back the note on but that is separate from saying we're going to just let them walk away because still got the benefit of the thing that out for the ones that are really burned appearance took the loans and then two years and the kid drops out you know smoke smoking pot and all of that you know but yeah i i gotta get to the the the break the other part of this as i say it's one thing i know. A lot of people who went to med school took on monster student loan debts. We're talking two hundred fifty three hundred thousand dollars. I mean unless you're rich. How else do you go to medical school you know. How many years is it years and years. And it's really hard to work your way through medical school other than the programs at the schools offer because it's such a hard thing in there so much study egg and so forth and so odd but the notion is. Is that when you graduate. You're going to go into a field. That is well paid and you have some control over your future. You know a lot of doctors starting out. Don't make a lot of money but let's be honest here. Doctor who successful twenty years in is going to be making a lot more money than somebody who's trying to write the next american novel you size up all of these things and i'm not saying that there's anything wrong with somebody borrowing a lot of money if they have a long term plan to make a fair amount in their career and bite the bullet for those first few years of family life. When you get out and pay off your debt until you're able to get free and clear it's what you pry donut properly. Assess what is going to be on the pay on the other end. And as i say i've been there and i know a lot apparel both. Your kids went to state universities. And i think you borrowed for both of them but you didn't brow the kind of money that you would have had to borrow. If they were down they're going to some highfalutin arts school. You know an if they went to vanderbilt in nashville for example. Vanderbilt's a very very expensive school. Private school call it the harvard of the midwest. Harvard of the south. I think that's the called vanderbilt. Maybe the kid to go their mama data to take out a fortune if the kids gonna go to vanderbilt that kid better be willing to major in something in which a lot of money in that In the long haul or the parents better be rich enough to be able to pay off at if not your own damn fault for spending buddy at out by went out and decide okay. I'm getting old. I'm going to get a kentucky. Derby winner at. I buy it at percentages. A thirty five horses like ten percent of all of them and all of them. Turn out to be duds. And it's beyond what i can pay back maybe empathize. I got a little too excited. It's my own fault and throw it. I bought mine vowed that i could afford try. Try to try to get back. Well we don't have loan sharks anymore. Because these mastercard took that oath they they know of the eighteen percent at all events stuff. Yeah bio bio for the mob. And don't pay your points. Talk eleven thirty w i s. I'm mark belling late afternoon. Show and other noteworthy death talk about you. Know who rafer. Johnson is ever hear of them little before your time. As a thailand rafer johnson was regarded as the greatest athlete in the world. Rafer johnson won the decathlon at the nineteen sixty olympic games. And that was back in the time in which people generally thought of the gold medalist and kathleen a really big different. That's bruce jeter became famous. He wanted a catholic a gold medal. Bob richards is the guy. He did the wheaties. Commercials in the sixties the seventies. I think i think he was a decathlete. He might have been a pole vaulter whether they consider catholic. That was a big deal. You know the ten events over the two days out there right and then you're pole vaulting and you throw the shot without whatever all the events are and so on. I don't know if he was the first african american to win it. But if he wasn't the first he was one of the first and whether the first americans to win the gold medal in the decathlon a very very big deal and that accomplishment. The decathlon was considered by a lot of people. Talk about an all around athlete. Because you had to have sprinter's speed you had to have the ability to jump. They had the shot or the disks or something they had one of those in there and then they ended with the fifteen hundred meter run so they had the and that was always the last of ed after they went through all this. They'd have this rod and you got points in each of the events and so on but he became pen figure in american history and so on and guy that was really an icon in this country in the sixties in the seventies and a leader of the civil rights movement and so on and also that's much trivia question as it is an interesting footnote in history. The night that bobby kennedy was murdered the night of the california democratic primary in nineteen sixty eight. The ambassador hotel los angeles kennedy gave a speech and then he walked back into the banquet area. The back kitchen area. And that's for sir. Sirhan shot him rafer. Johnson is guy who was serving his kennedy's bodyguard got the gut. The other guy who was wrestling the gun away was a football player named rosie greer remember rosy grier rosie greer and rafer. Johnson were the ones that wrestled the gun away from sierra. And sarah out i think george plumpton the guy who wrote all those books about you know being a fake athlete paper lion and all that stuff. He was in there to rafer. Johnson is one of those guys that i hadn't heard a word about in decades. He was age stated here. Yeah eighty six eighty six years old. Oh we didn't have a decathlon winner at the twenty twenty olympics because the twenty twenty olympics are going to be held next summer. Does anybody think those are going to happen. Well they ought to stand by it. We're having every other sport. Why can't you have that. Only question is whether anybody is going to be there. All these sports that we called off there was no reason to call if any of they come up with the answer. Don't let anybody come. But how are you going to get the olympic village. I suppose that might be something of an issue or they're all live together but how you get a catch. Covert from run when two guys are running around the bunch of people running around at track. If you could play football for crying out loud. You'd think you'd be able to do the olympics. I suspect all these things eventually are going to happen in sports but when we're going to go back and watch any of it that's a that's another question the nfl playoffs. They say in a bubble will. What's wrong with plan in their own stadium. I think the bubble is worse when she think it's worth and i get when they're in a bubble they can't go out into the public and get it from somebody else and so on i know the nfl. They're just trying to get through this. They're trying to get to a february and get it done with the covert thing going on. And so what i made. Yeah again the problem. I have with the bubble is if one player gets it. In the bubble everybody in the bubble is going to get it. That's to be the downside of the bubble is you have the athletes on top of one another. It works if nobody gets it but if if three or four get it you know you got to enforce the thing and some of these athletes. They're going leave the bubble or they're going to go see the spouse or they're gonna go out and gabba drank or something or another read. Well i i. Yeah i mean the with the packers and being a team built for lambeau is not been true for years because you know the packers zara there a video game t rogers throwing the ball around all over the place. They're you imagine if rodgers spent his whole career dome think it'd be spectacular stuff not suggesting we put dole lambeau five. That's paul suggestion. Who cares if you put. It already began. When was the last time anybody was ended other than a player. Yeah those five hundred pm while they tried their best hold up the sides and they do other such well i it is still five hundred better than nothing. Okay can we get two five thousand zero. Well you gotta spread spreading beg lambeau is a bed lamble. Five thousand people in lambeau is like i think that is. Yeah the other thing that got the five hundred but they're all sitting next to each other. Well what good is that gonna do. What i they're all by you know put you forgot to put them all in their spread of. I understand supposed to have three thousand people that hug. You like to be the guy. That's sitting in row. Ninety seven behind the goal posts erupted the quarter standing up for milwaukee. This is the mark belling late afternoon. Show on news talk. Eleven thirty w y said very very close to that seems getting approval here in the united states one of them. I think it was pfizer. Not sure has been approved in the uk. The question next question becomes hamad. Will they have been. How widely will. They be distributed story at jason online. Today indicates that was site hoping by the middle of this month to vaccinations available. That seems ambitious until you read. How many talking about forty nine thousand to be raised about that. That's let's say routed. Fifty thousand fifty thousand doses of the vaccine by the middle of december. We're a state of nearly six million people who gets it's going to be. It's going to be one of the policy nursing upfront. You're already past fifty thousand with that you just through an old people all right. Who's old do. I get part of that old thing what i know about life. I don't quite a few things about life at. I'm guilty of the following. What do people most want. What do people most. What no be specific. Be more general people. Both what do i always. What do i want. Answers shot up what you can't have you tell somebody that can't have something they wanted where everybody get have it. That's want you tell somebody. They can't have the vaccine. They're gonna fight to have it. You got ninety seven million of over here. Go get what they want to one of those. So you're going to have initially probably tremendous clamor where people resent the fact that some people are able to get them and others are not obviously healthcare workers and so on aside from who wants seven. How quickly you get them out. The second thing is do we have people say. Well you can use the national guard at of how many national guardsmen. Do you think that we have. Let's imagine a million and a half people want to be back said wisconsin which is about a quarter of the population. I i don't even know logistically how you do it much less. Have all of those doses that in terms of having an impact on covid. How many vaccinations do you need to get in order to get to the point of having herd immunity. Obviously not. everybody has to be the if nobody ha- get is the virus because so many people have been vaccinated the one who isn't vaccinated this very little risk of getting it because you do have to get it from someone else but getting to that number getting this thing out. Especially you'd be. Maybe we should do it like voting where you have dropped boxes and things in the park could just treat it like cavalierly testing thing. All the a small fraction of people still have been tested and look with a live event for that. And i would think that i don't know how much time it takes for my flu. Shot or for that matter. I got the shingles vaccine a year ago or so. I mean you gotta fill out all this paperwork and you stand there. And i realized that what we do the vaccine. It's not gonna be one pharmacist coming around the corner a bunch of times to do it. I it's two doses separate but not at the same time so it's a couple of trips on it so for people who think that this is a nevada even if it works at a even if all the people who wanna get it can have it. It just seems to me that logistically. You're look at a long time on it now. With regard to the vaccine the next great debate is how many people are going to get aid. I think it'll be a little self-regulatory. There are a lot of people who are saying. I am going to wait a month or two to see what side effects are out there. What happens to the people that have it. The more people want it initially the better off obedience overcome the number of people who want to get it all right away. Then the other thing is gonna come in and you know that there's gonna be a lot of people insisting that the kids are going to be vaccinated and if anybody doesn't need the vaccine it's kids because whenever expose other than the really unlucky ones. They barely get sick. And i think we're still at two deaths of people under the age of twenty and wisconsin. I mean you get that many suicides. The state every half hour for crying out loud not to mention overdose deaths And so on. Paul and i were talking earlier about the nfl it. Maybe they might go under the bubble for the playoffs and so on simply with regard to the nba. The bucks were having spectacular season. They had that stop. You came back and you saw how the thing ended. Just have this fear. This could be the packers year at utah. Something's gonna happen with cova descru- all of this up. I i can't say there's any team out there in the nfl. That i think is likely to win the packers. I look at nine teams and say that their chances are about the same. I look at a team like pittsburgh. They don't look to be to be eleven. not i think of the year. That new england ran the table war. Go back to the you know they just don't strike me as crushingly superior to even the game. They won yesterday that one by one by five points over the ravens cabinet game right now in the got a backup quarterback in there and so on the point i make is that green bay has got as good a chance as anybody and it sure would be great if they were having this year when people could go to lambo or we could get fully get into it and so on but you know it is what it is. We're gonna talk biker. Lettuce week preview. The football games for this weekend. I as we will forward here without fully leaving that vaccine story and we get it out. That's going to be one of the first things that we're to who's gonna make that decision as who gets it is that the federal government is at the states. Will doctors have any input of this. Is it going to be that doorkeepers. You know he'll get fevers is a charge. You'll probably give him probably give himself the first vaccination. You'll see. he'll do it rog. He'll he'll take you magin. Tony vers getting the vaccination has bad. He'd be the guy that would get the side effect biden. Go to get it all. I've show you'll be the first one that you don't well you know that's not gonna go. Well yeah well you think you know that's not gonna go well vaccinating biting you know. Something's gonna go wrong with that. Kabul was yeah gel. Get it by the way. I'm going to add something to joe. You are line for this world anyway. Let's get it over with now. Oh and she. She is nowhere to be found. You think biden's of the base. But i mean they've abducted. She knows enough to keep her mouth completely shut. She knows it's just a matter of time and she doesn't say or do anything to follow this up. Oh well she's been explode on the scene when she becomes the president of the united states that will be. Oh i beat. Who actually would have thought that we'd be praying for biden to hang in there paul city rather have hillary hillary or biden hillary and kamala or hillary over calmly clearly made as corrupt as hillary. Is you know that's what a question to ask. What are these things. We ask a guy which of the two women deal out of date. It's like too terribly atrociously at attractive. It's the most wonderful time with the kids. Jingle baoling everyone telling you it's the momo's one news talk eleven thirty. W i s late afternoon show. It's time for the mark belling weekend football preview presented by holiday automotive and the lack. It's worth the trip. Joined right now by mike. Maleta american sports analysts madison. A as a winds dot com one. Eight eight two seven to ten ninety eight mike before we get started anything special. You'd like to share with the audience about a essay. And what's going on this weekend. I'll tell you what it's hard to do that. Nowadays we had a big game plan last weekend. That got canceled on friday night so so kind of one of those years. We'll have. We'll have some games this weekend. Or whatever play is well handicap come off. That's come up with some picks. This week is so far as you know what's going on with the badger. Indiana game is an on. Yeah yup yup as of now. It's going up. Wisconsin is a pretty big favorite in that game. Indiana has been the. I'd say probably the surprise team with the big ten this year. I looks like the second best team in the big ten eastern even gave ohio state quite a game but they've lost their quarterback. Michael panics wisconsin. Who's only played. Three games is favored over indiana Even though indiana. I think he's had a better season so far. It has looked better. But they don't have the quarterback. How much is the loss of indiana's quarterback going to affect them and as wisconsin deserve to be a significant favorite of idea. Yeah i think they deserve your favorite. They they initially came out as a ten point. Favorite and i thought that was high With panic in the lineup. Since panic has gone up it's moved up to fourteen. Vegas is basically saying he's worth at least four points I think he's worth more than that Mainly michael that good. Yeah oh yeah he he is. He's laying the big ten passing Yards per game. He scored sixteen of their twenty four touchdowns the problem with indiana's they don't have a good running game. They ran good last week against maryland. Who stinks defensively. But before that they were having seventy three yards per game on the ground so lot was on his shoulders and taking him away. And putting the guy. In there who's inexperienced. I think it's going to be a big difference. Offensively for them. They're good on defense though. They are wisconsin. Didn't get to play last week because of covid problems at minnesota. The badgers two weeks ago. Look very poor. Offensively against north west. And they didn't seem to have any of their receivers. Have you gotten any rumblings as to. Who's going to be able to play for wisconsin. And who isn't for. They have most of their offense back the first two games of the year. They were unstoppable offensively and engaged three with missing a few players. They couldn't move the ball at all any word there. Yeah a couple of things on that They they were without their too. Wide receivers starting lineup. Soon as prior and davis prior will be back in. This game davis. It'll be a game time decision. There are tight end ferguson. Key to their offense obviously got hurt neck and it looks like he'll be back and actually jack cohn is gonna address for this game as well for the first time. Jacqueline the quarterback who a lot of people thought without being too you know derogatory toward coat over at that. It wasn't the worst thing in the world for the badgers prospects to get graham. Mertz out there on the field. His spectacular at the beginning of the year but Struggled with nor receivers in the situation in the game against northwestern any thought that cohen will play i. I don't think this week He's just hasn't had enough time practicing. He's been throwing a little bit but not practicing. I think he's kind of an emergency. Just in case. I think down the line they might work them in and work. Both of them and i don't think they can pull mertz out in this situation and then just go with colin the rest of the way. That's not good. Because was a freshman cones done after this year So i think they can work. But i don't think it'd be this weekend after michigan loses this weekend is harbaugh gonna to be fired. I it's headed. That question is bay has a premise in there. But i mean you see it coming. I think yeah it's You know last week they were set up perfectly to win that game. In penn state was coming as owen. Five coming off a home loss again to michigan beat rutgers they add momentum and they get beat at home by penn state owned five so i i think it's heading that way. I think you know these last few games will tell. There's no way they're going to be ohio state and if they lose this week there he's probably in trouble. You always know when the stars are aligned. When you start hearing beer fans talking sports radio. What hiring higher boys. Their coach harbaugh is one of those guys that he can feel three more times that he's always going to have another job because of past success. Let's hitter attention to the. Nfl is you mentioned college. Football's bedding chaos there. There are some teams that are going to play this weekend. Their third game of the year centimes out of the pack head and there other teams that played nine or ten games. So it's been such a scree season because of covid. The nfl has had remarkable success in dodging the bullet. I think everybody has played all of their games. The worst scenario was they had a shove back the baltimore watch baltimore pittsburgh game a couple of days and they played it on a wednesday but otherwise they've had everything in there have been very few players that have had tested positive for covid. And the league's gotten through this but what with everything going on in society. You wonder if that's gonna last will the covid issues that have just created have college football eventually at the nfl and any thoughts on that. I think they're slowly slowly starting to see that like he just said they've been pretty good at avoiding most of it but then just last week alone. I believe that eighty six cases in the nfl players and personnel which is a lot compared to what they have had. So i think it's slowly trickling in I believe the nfl this week or last week said no practices facilities are shut down on mondays and tuesdays for the rest of the season So they're they're stepping in there We'll see what happens after. I get really any of this. Because then the players are out with families in the community ivey. It's unless unless they're gonna take these players have put him in a refrigerator for forty eight hours the going to be going to be somewhere. Did the league set a precedent by telling denver that they had to play though they had they had no quarterbacks said look if you if you have covert problems and so i gotta play eddie way and you're gonna have to figure out who it is to put out in the field. Yeah i think what happened. There was if i guess Rules correctly everyone was talking about. Why does why is baltimore. Get to move games around one. Well they had an outbreak. What happened with with denver. Is they had one of their quarterbacks. Get it didn't have any more positive with their quarterbacks and the quarterbacks were caught with no mass hanging around each other and so that's why that happened. I don't think they'll do that. Moving ahead here. One thing i have heard is during the playoffs there and it's possible. They might go into a bubble situation during the playoffs. Not for games. They'll still travel for games but during the week practice year at practice you go to the hotel. You're not around your family during the playoffs. That's a possibility clueless game at the weekend. Byu was going to play liberty which would have been just a great game. Byu is unbeaten. the has only one loss which was by one point to north carolina state. They put one another on the schedule. And i think what they did it. They were hoping to make the case that whoever won the game could try to argue their way into the college football playoff while liberty all of a sudden got covert problems and byu finds coastal carolina who is also unbeaten. Two unbeaten teams one is an independent. The others in a small conference and they're gonna play each of this weekend both. Byu kills everybody. They play and coastal carolina has been shockingly. Good they've beaten some decent teams and the teams that are in their own league. They're destroying its played a game giving you thought it well. I don't even know what the point spread is your thought on that game. And can you make the case that either of these teams is actually really truly an elite team. Byu wins. i think they have an argument. They should be included in the playoffs. It was originally liberty supposed to play coastal carolina liberty and cost the cat right. Okay and liberty Had some covid problems that game open. Coastal carolina was a seven point favorite versus liberty and moved all the way up to eleven. At that point. We knew their quarterback wasn't gonna play and then it got cancelled now. Byu favored by ten at coastal carolina. So that's a that's a huge swing from. Just one be boise by thirty points or so earlier on the air. Good i think they beat navey by nearly fifty so for whatever reason be while you got really really good this year. This is actually a task that in coastal carolina's unbeaten. I think they've beaten. I don't think the kansas which isn't saying much. But i think they'd be another halfway decent team somewhere in there as well. So they're not chopped liver and everybody's talking about their coach. He's going to be somewhere big next year based on what they've done but it's a cool game and i think i is. Espn game day. Going to be a coastal carolina. I think they actually are. They were initially going to be for liberty and if anything the byu matchup is even even better gave given that. They're both yeah. No they're they're definitely going to be there and You know the situation for byu as their most recent game was back on november twenty first and they don't have another game till december twelve so they've been looking for games to try and boost their value i believe their thirteenth in the playoff rankings. This is perfect for them. Now they get to play at nine team and see how they do. If they have a big game they might move up in the rankings. they're both these teams played texas state. That's the only thing we can look at here They both want one one fifty two fourteen. The other one forty nine to fourteen the yardage was you know similar So we'll find. I love the situation. I think it'd be awesome. I wish they had more of these type of games Throughout the seats. And what are the things that we've learned from. Because of necessity this year teams are grabbing kimes scheduling and with three days in advance college. Football schools set their schedules up six seven. Eight years in advance. You know constant lines up. Somebody to play in twenty twenty-eight well this is demonstrating. You don't have to do this you could. You could make up a schedule out. I think the byu coastal carolina game was scheduled in the middle of this week. And they're gonna play on saturday. You wonder if in the future teams that have an open. Mike just go and say hey. The two of you ought to play. What another almost like you know. Like buyer league teams do. I think it's kind of cool that you can put these things together in the middle of the year and since they're not conference games anyway who cares. I think it might indicate that you can be a little bit more flexible in the future with regard to how you have some of these games. Yeah i think that was smaller schools like this for sure. I'm not sure the big ten and those conferences would allow that to happen during the season. But i think little smart conferences independence. I think this could be set of prep. Although i think last week didn't san diego state just go and play some team in the pack twelve yacht. Colorado game called up and okay. They called san diego state from another conference and they they They played a game Comment on the packers. I was saying to paul did. I don't think that there's anybody that's likelier to win the super bowl and the packers that the packers of the likeliest theme. That looks to me like there's five to eight teams. That are all kind of even. I don't put pittsburgh any better than any of the others. It seems to me and with no home field advantage mattering even more of a wild card. That you've got a lot of teams might win it but no no team in the nfl that looks at all dominant. this year. I would say on our paul ratings kansas city. The best team still our and pittsburgh is is again. I said this last week. They play at buffalo in a week and a half. They're gonna lose at some point buffalo's better than pittsburgh. I mean buffalo. It's the team that nobody thinks is good that they've win they all. Who's weighed in pittsburgh again. There's more to it than stats but pittsburgh stats that we look at and that's not an eleven team. They've gotten some breaks. They've had a bunch of like six of their games have been one score games. They played four quarterbacks that were backup quarterbacks when they played them they've had some breaks But green bay in the nfc. Anyone new orleans is coming to new orleans. Defense is really good if they get breeze back. I think they'll be right there but green bay's as good as anyone in the nfc. And they i gotta look at the odds. I'll look at the odds for next week They gotta be leading to make the super bowl in the. Nfc them in new orleans. I would say okay and real quickly since we have you here. I don't know how many people are aware. But the wisconsin basketball team was ranked in the top five nationally. And this team is being regarded is is as good or better than the frank kaminsky sam. Dekker team that That made it to the to the championship game. wisconsin. Marquette are playing this weekend. How good is wisconsin and did they deserve this. Lofty ranking They're good wisconsin's really good. I don't know if they're top five team. I think definitely a top ten team. I don't think they're as good as the kamensky teams but they start five seniors been through everything they can shoot threes. They've got two big guys. Six ten to seven feet. That are that can score inside and out the clay good defense they're bringing some freshmen. In off the bench got fresh water and a really good they got. The davis is godly. They all these guys have minnesota carlson's good. They're all there ought and marquette's it'll be interesting. Game are catch shoots a ton of threes. Forty five percent of their shots from three. I think marquette still learning how to run offense without I the players blank shot. Forty percents little guy. Howard howard took forty percent of their shots which is more than any player in the country. And that's hard to transition from for the for the new players to learn how to how to take over off. Marquette also has a superstar freshman dawson's. Yeah yeah so all bad. So if i asked you where. Wisconsin fits national. You said they're probably not a top five team or they one of the ten best teams of the country. Yeah yeah. I think they're top ten right now after me watching games. I think gonzaga's the best team that i've seen Baylor's really good but then the big ten's got four teams in the top ten right now in the top. Twenty five yeah. They're they're loaded. But wisconsin is good as any of those big ten teams. So i guess technically they could be considered a top five team right there. This program was going nowhere under guard. I guess i was wrong. Headed right trial. This'll this'll this'll be there. They've got a great recruiting class coming in. They have great freshman this year and they have a team this year. So they're setup to excel and we'll find out anyway We'll talk to mike again next week and i believe we've got a little bit of scheduling changes going out. I think we're gonna be on wednesday of next week. Okay thanks mike that's mike. Asa wins dot com one eight eight eight seven two hundred eight like to find out what the going on this weekend. Mark belling weekend. Football preview is presented by holiday automotive and the lack. It's worth the trip. The next segment. That i'm going to share with. You is worth listening to. It deals with mayfair and its response to the mass shooting. That occurred a couple of weeks ago. There was also a court hearing today dealing with the attempts to get the fifteen year old shooter waived into adult court. Newstalk eleven thirty w i s mark belling late afternoon show while says that might relate. Just check the super bowl odds and the chiefs the favourite to win which you know why they're not gonna win. Nobody repeats. I mean he just so rare that anyone in the nfl repeats my big goal every year as you'd ever want the team that won last year to what it again because it's not him has ever want to three years in a row other than the green bay packers. Who did that twice the first time they did. It was twenty nine thirty thirty one and the second time the year before the first super bowl they won the nfl championship that year and then won the super bowl the following two years so the packers have won the championship three years in a row twice and nobody else done it ever so you can't win at three zero. If you don't get to twitter row. So i always root against the team that won at the year before that usually met your rooting against the wing. The during that time that they were winning it So often the fifteen year old. Who took a gun. Fortunately it was a puny little nine millimeter into mayfair mall and decided to start settling a score over a dispute that still hasn't been fully explained. Shot a bunch of people and then shot. A bunch of people didn't have anything to do with wounded. Eight was in court today. The milwaukee county district attorney's offices waived into adult court that somebody who tries to commit mass murder should be tried as an adult. His attorney wants him to remain at juvenile. If you are a juvenile you cannot be incarcerated beyond the age of twenty one in addition to that if you are a juvenile your name remains anonymous and we don't get an opportunity to learn anything about your background what we do know though is this. The juvenile had already been adjudged as delinquent that means he has a juvenile court record and it was serious so by keeping him in the juvenile court system. We kept a dangerous person out there and on the street. The people who keep arguing the coddling juvenile criminals does them a favor. They not only make us more dangerous. They helped set him on a path in which he tried to kill eight people at a shopping mall because nobody died in the mayfair shootings. This story is almost being dismissed. It also doesn't fit any of the narratives that liberals like to give us given the doesn't appear to be a racial motivation here for the case or anything of that nature. What it has installed one damper on mayfair given the fact that there was a mass shooting. Their mayfair's response to this. The mall is now announcing that they're going to have specially trained canines patrolling with security officers to detect firearms. These canine dogs are phenomenal. They literally can smell a god. I don't know how you can create a dog to smell the gun but the dogs are able to. I mean i put my nose up to my gun. I can't smell anything. It'd mean if i shot it i'd smell something but you should have a guy's body odor and they find the guy in a field of mile and a half away anyway. This is the type though of security blankets for trying to give one another the shooting. We just had it mayfair. The dogs would have been. The guy ran into the ball. Beg by begging started shooting us. You have ninety five thousand dollars all over the ball. What good is that going to do. I'm not saying we don't do it. What i am saying is that we keep trying to paper over what the problem which which is a. We have a society filled with people that are willing to commit homicide and bay. We keep telling people they can't bring in their own guns to protect them. Given the fact that the people who want to commit murder at the ball will carry their guns in. It is stupid to stop everybody else. Being able to have god and while these canines do not do any harm here. They don't serve as much as a deterrent. Because most people who intend to go into the ball and shoots someone. I'm going to hang around and go to the food cart for an hour and a half two hours when the canine can find them. They're gonna go and do their business and leave two story stories before we close up shop the first you may recall a story. I did a few years ago from the town of port. Washington there's to port washington. Is the town remember. The town clerk was overpaying herself and the town board didn't even know believe it or not. There's a follow up to that story and a separate story. You may be wondering what it will take to get the media upset about election irregularities and fraud what we'll get the media say wait a minute we gotta look into this. But i'll tell you after the break news. Talk eleven thirty w i s mark late afternoon show. You may recall a story that we get on this program a few years ago around twenty sixteen the town clerk. In the town apart washington was caught overpaying herself beyond her assigned to salary was much to the surprise of the talent board. That didn't seem to be paying attention to what was going on. Her name is cheryl carol's despite this after she left her position in port. Washington cheryl ended up working as the deputy clerk in germantown job. She had into the twenty seventeen and after that she went to brookefield where she also worked as a deputy clerk. It's hard to track the moving of cheryl because she's had more than one name and she now goes by shirl vidal. according to her lincoln page. She still works for germantown germantown stated that she resigned from. There any event cheryl despite getting caught overpaying yourself in port washington has managed to get herself hired it other clerks offices here in southeastern wisconsin. Anyway there was an incident that occurred in washington county. A couple of days ago reported on. Cbs fifty eight and a couple of other new services in which two people accused of breaking into the home of eighty five year. Old woman beating her up in an attempt to rob her. They knocked her out of her wheelchair in an attempted robbery. The to charge that twenty-six-year-old demonte williams and fifty one year old cheryl badillo the same clerk. Who was caught. Overpaying yourself in part washington the same clerk that was hired in brookefield excuse in brookefield in germantown is now accused of taking part in a strong arm robbery in which an eighty five year old woman was knocked out of her wheelchair. It's people attempted to rob her. There have been a number of news stories reported on the incident but none of them are mentioning the fact that she's been a prominent local clerk at a number of local communities. And now this story. You've been wondering what it would take to get the media to finally focus on some of the many irregularities that we've had any elections around the united states well in fact to their credit. The new york times is a major story. Today they're investigating united states house of representatives race in which after the counted all of the votes. They're only twelve both separated the two candidates they congressional races in central new york state. The republican involved in the race and the democrat had a very very narrow margin and the twelve votes separating them then two days ago. Somebody in one of the low clerk's offices found fifty five ballots sitting in a box that had never been counted. They were in person ballots. In according to the shenango new york county board of elections. They were mislaid and never counted after they counted the ballots. The twelve volt lead entity brindisi. The democrat held over the republican claudia. Kenny was relate whereas was turned over because the majority of the fifty five ballots that were found sitting in the backs were cast for the republicans and the republicans is now ahead of the types out. Believe that anything like this to happen. So would you. Poverty election irregularity that said how results in the republican gaining votes. Then the new york times. He's demanding that we get to the bottom. It'd be the first island yesterday. They found extra votes a week and a half after the three weeks after the election the boats were actually for the republican. Put her over the top wide. Is it that. I fear that some court is going to stop the certification and this election and demand that we get to the bottom of this on a loud And bring a in jacksonville. You'll get more of what you want out of a florida vacation and less of what you don't for less lines. More unwind come stroll down our twenty two miles of white sand beaches here. It's less hectic and more eclectic with our weekly arts markets and the mirrow scene and with fresh local seafood farm to table restaurants and more than twenty local craft breweries on the jacksonville trail. You'll be saying less smith and more Jacksonville it's easier here.

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"Good? Milwaukee this is the mark belling late afternoon. Show on news. Talk Eleven thirty. W I S. I have a mind hijacked by own showed today. What is abby well explain what that means. You don't even know what that means you. GotTa be right at the beginning. Talk Radio. There's this old Sega goodbye now. That show got hijacked. Back in the early days, a talk radio, there is nothing worse. I thought that hijacked radio. Talk shows what would happen is usually. A lot of shows were just open lines. And the way that show would get hijacked and it was a term that was used remember, this is before hardly talk. Radio exists that it was just a few people were starting to do it, and there wasn't a lot of talk radio AD. We've come back to realize that the earliest talk radio is really really really terrible. In most instances because people didn't know how to do it. At the the term hijacking the show dealt with the host losing control of their own show. You still hear that happened a lot, don't you? Every day. Is that a shot at me a little worm in there? What do you mean every day? What? Does that mean every day? You every afternoon between three and six thirty I hear it happened. Show gets hijacked from the Moron hosted, said they're. Callers. Is that that you're on the right track with with the hijacking is at. The hijacking of the show occurs. If you try to do, say an open line show. And one topic just becomes the dominant topic and you can't get the audience off of it. And it often happened. There were a handful of topics that would just do it and. It was terrible radio because it would drive away. Everybody other than the handful of people that were really into the issue that people would be obsessed with abortion was one of those issues especially back in the day. AD. pro-lifers often made terrible. Talk show call. There's because and I've been here thirty thirty five years ago. They did not argue their cases very well I. Don't believe you had a lot of will God says it's wrong. God May say it's wrong, but that's not an argument that anybody can engage with at. It's nothing that anyone could go anywhere with in terms of combating symbols that will God, does it. Where do you go with that? The answer is you go absolutely nowhere now as you know as most of you have been longtime listeners to talk radio at various people who talk radio very good. You're aware that in order to make topic interested or discuss it interesting. You have to back up your case with really and logic, and argue the point and go through simply saying something, and then letting it drop at hanging around. There was no good, but anyway what would happen when these shows get hijacked I but explain more take more time explaining what hijacking his show is than I, actually hijacking the show, which is not actually true. And what happens, I don't know maybe. We didn't ever really even do many open lines. Even when you started doing this show a trillion years ago, did we? I, did really early on occasionally do it sometimes. Well Russ used I all aware that Russia's do at every Friday because I often filled in for him on Fridays. Just give you know people take off. Friday accommodated takeoff. Say That over the years that well you should probably know. This of the days of the week that I filled in for rush during the seventeen years that I was one of his guests hose which day. Was the number one day which was second? It's so simple. Friday's number one and it actually might not be number one. The other ones close. Yes. Because of the extended weekend that people including him in me, and just about everybody else takes I, did zillion Mondays. I hated Mondays. Because often. There wasn't a lot of new as the due on Monday morning. That changed after. I write about I would say. After nine eleven. The Sunday morning talk shows became very very big again, and a lot of news would come out of them, and you'd have those kinds of things that would happen, but anyway I would do the Friday show, but he had the open line Friday and I said you ought to be to do open line. Friday and the Lake Kit. Carson to producers would always say do whatever you want to do and. James Golden Aka boss thirdly would always say the same thing. Do whatever you WANNA. Do Rush doesn't cure if guest host hold, hold the his format and. I said I just think the audience wants to hear plus I liked that little jingle that they read about open line Friday said here's the key I'd open line Friday that it's not really open line Friday. We don't just let anybody call in and get onto the rush limbaugh program. We have millions of people listening here if you want to do it, open line, Friday, but directed in certain topics for instance throw it three or four or five things have your own and kind of suggest the caller should only responded those. That's what we could do that if you listened to Russia show while it may be what He. He does the for open night Friday's and we hope that he has many years to still be able to do them and hope that what's going on with. These cancer is going to work out. He's got the worst one of the worst kinds you could possibly have. But anyway there's there is even some direction that, but in true open line radio the host. Just it all right why they? It's on your mind. And without call screening process what often will happen is somebody goes off at a subject like this Ad. It takes a life of its own and the only people who are calling in her calling in on that exact same subject etiquettes to be one that doesn't appeal to a larger segment of the audience generally speaking. If you're doing a radio, talk show. A bad caller can kill the show faster than anything that a host would ever do. It's just true. People tune the right way. We go this base that all sorts of things when people turn the radio on when the people turned the radio off, so not the say that the subject of abortion should not have been discussed on talk radio, but often it was a topic. The callers tended to be very poor in expressing their opinions on because they didn't try to get into kind of logical argument, which and this is one of the knocks on Liberal Talk Radio. There's though logical arguments without a logical argument. You're not going anywhere with anything. For instance. If I say the NFL should cancel the season. Why? If I can't make all my points whether I think they should or they shouldn't. I just dropped nothing. No I don't think they should I guess I think it's utter nothingness. Talk Radio Works when you have a discussion of idea is not simply throwing the idea out. It isn't bumper stickers. What. Well, of course you hate open lines. You don't have to screen calls. Most of the time would have to do nothing but screen calls. The first guy sets at. The trick as I've learned over the years. Even when I do, 'cause is you just can't let the show get hijacked. If the caller seemed to be theory, good the wrong direction, you signal your producer. Okay, give this guy the Hawk or you try to redirect the conversation because you have to understand and I think a lot of people never have understood this this talk. Radio is not done for the benefit of callers. It has done for the benefit of the listeners and callers, merely a tiny portion of the listener segment, even if we have the kind of topic that blows the phones out. It's still only a tiny fraction of people that are trying to call it. You were to that caller well in the end so what? He's your audience. Know he just one guy in the audience who was screwed up the show? That's all. Or he was making a point that I thought was stupid, so I said so. So on this thing of hijack, there are other topics that would tend to do that back in the day in which. They just would have a narrow focus and bragged show off Ed. What are the things that people who actually knew in the early stages? How to talk? Radio is never lose control of the show. Don't let anybody ever hijack the show. So that's that all came back to me when I decided today to hijack my own show. What do you think by this? Why you! See! There are many things going on again today. That, need to be discussed such as short bullet point. The fact that these protests Saddam moving in full force to monopoly falls. There was one last night it got all screwed up locked bathroom door. People are acting, so it's the most racist act of all time. It started with a village president essentially invited the protesters to come to a nominee falls. They're back again with a big thing. That's going to start this afternoon. And I believe the plan is to try to ride at least at midnight, and it goes the entire village and clogged the streets, and so on and. It will get bigger until it's not bigger and the. Issue here is monopoly falls doesn't know what to do. They literally don't know what to do. At I acknowledge it's not an easy thing to decide. What should we do? I. Don't think that there's a book that's out there. That says. How do you deal with protests of this sort and there are various opinions that are out there. They don't know what to do at. This is a brand new thing that we're moving into now of these protests that in the past always been in cities, instead moving to suburbs, and as I said from the beginning, you could see that black lives, matter and for. For that matter. George Soros is group in all of the stuff that they've been putting out. They say we've gotta take this to the suburbs. There is no point essentially and making people miserable who agree with US yelling and screaming in the middle of the night with people. If you want to get a reaction, we have to make the people uncomfortable who are causing the problem, which is white rice and suburbanites. That's their argument. So that's a long topic. That I can do this program. We're going to get to that, but. I need a break away from some of that stuff today and the only way to do it is to come up with a couple of topics, the totally hijack the thing and take out a life of their own, which doesn't allow us to go to the other things you see what I'm saying. So therefore give it the fact that I ever professional talk shows one of the most successful local talk show host in America. You think I. would at least know therefore how to hijack my own show by not hijacking. The show was some goofball fringe thing that's going to go nowhere, but to try to hijack the show with something that might actually be interesting edited. You follow all of this. The long it took twelve minutes to explain hijacking the show I said it would take I'm clearly going to hijack it for longer than it would take to explain it, but that's what. All of that was. Part of the hijacking is going to start with a couple of announcements A. I actually don't want to do this. And I'm probably going to regret doing it but I am going to be posting on belling dot com I picks on the Belmont stakes, which actually for those of you more people I. Think are aware of this that normal because sports fans just there. They've got nothing nothing. Nothing Probably. I. was saying before seventy thirty. There's going to be baseball. All say forty sixty basketball looks like it's going to happen, although there's still dissension from some of the players. You got tyrod ticket. You've got basically the sports that. Hijack hijack by the competitors. Yeah And that's another one where you know Gov you hold a tournament anybody that wants to come down after COBB. and there's no real union. The player's own their own tour of. Inside. So. I'm going to put up picks on belling dot. COM and the Belmont stakes, however, we in the past have done really professional licking things melody who works here puts it out a pdf and all of that because of the way the staffing is. We're just not going to do that and I'm not going to put all the effort. Go into all the stuff and list. All the names of the horses that I've done on these things in the past I don't know how extensive on me, but I basically just to put up the picks I, might offer something another racers or to that day again the race is. Is the Belmont stakes is Saturday. The triple crown is odd this year. Just like everything else in our world, it's all different. The triple crown used to be Kentucky Derby on the first Saturday at may two weeks later the preakness and three weeks later about on stakes, the valmont snakes, which was the longest, is now going to be the shortest that only a mile eight. It's going to be Saturday the Kentucky. Derby will be the second leg. It's labor. Day weekend and the preakness will occur a month later on the first week. At an October, some people saying this is so stupid. That's not the way to do it. Nobody's doing anything that the way that the normally vetted given the fact that you can't do it the normal way. Why not just do it any particular way that there is? I in many instances him, somebody who is something of a traditionalist, but in this instance there's no ability to have tradition add. We've made the collective decision as a country to in just three weeks. Wipe out every tradition that we have. I mean is there a statue of Christopher Columbia Columbus that hasn't been knocked down yet. They're follow like flies. Ad It's going on everywhere with almost no objection at all. And will continue until some people say enough is enough. Stop doing this. And it isn't going to happen. So as Oliver other traditions are GONNA go. We'd aren't GonNa have baseball this baby. If we do have baseball will be you know. The horse racing things all different, too, so there are people who are interested in the picks for the Belmont stakes The entries are drawn today and I'll look at the past. Performance is tonight. Stop. Don't Badger Paul with questions about this? Though they'll be posted probably tomorrow or Friday. I don't know when they'll just be some time before Saturday. Continuing to hijack the show I do have a horse running royal ascot. Tomorrow Royal Ascott actually is odd. It was a it's, and they held the same way that it's normally held horse racing restarted in Britain a couple of weeks ago. For those of you who are not familiar with royal. Ascot but I've heard the name. It is five days in a row of racing all at Ascot Racecourse. In which is just of London and they usually have only six races a day this year at seven. And it is an extremely big thing. About half the races are stakes races, the other half are. Handicap races they call it royal royalty because the Queen would go every day. Ascot's soap other days of the year, but these five days of their big thing, and it's one of the biggest things not leaves horse racing, but it's a major social event and you know I don't even know how big the track is. Just it's like the largest racetrack I've ever seen in my life it just the grandstand goes here at. It looks like it continues into the middle of the Atlantic Ocean it just goes on forever and ever and ever, and I have a nominee people they just trillions, and they're all over the grounds. It just a massive massive thing for five days at while. They're holding this year. Of course, there are no fans. You have this massive credibly. Huge track that don't fit no fans there. But they're having at the person were slashed a little bit, but the still out there, and it's an extremely prestigious kind of event. They are not allowing any foreign jockeys to come in, but for an horses are allowed to convince the horses come in from all over the world, and they run these races. I mentioned on the show I think last week. People have asked me about it. At Guy was bothering me today about it that I was thinking of by. I bought a racehorse last week and He's GonNa. Turn right around and run tomorrow at Royal Ascot. He's a two year old raced ones most two year. Olds have not started yet. This one's at advanced horse. He raced once a couple of weeks ago and we're putting them right into a stakes. Race set a royal ascot tomorrow now, Royal Ascot's on American television every morning. It's on NBC Sports Network. I believe it starts the coverage at six thirty, but it might be later that it might be seven thirty. It's one of the other. Maybe seven it's it's early in the morning at it runs all morning on NBC Sports Network, which is on everybody's cable channels are race runs at nine. So if you WANNA see the just tuned in, be twenty, two nine, the name of the horses bright devil very hard to say what we have here. He's run only once, which is true of almost everybody else in the race? The. It's been raining all week in London so the ground is going to be soft. These are all grass races at Royal Ascot and he might not handle that so if he runs poorly. It's not the end of the world. Because the course conditions might not be too was liking. You don't know if he likes the soft turf until he tries it, and because he's only one runsen his life, the be the first time that he would try something like this, but obviously we think he's an extremely talented worser. We've not spent all of this money. To buy him the horse trader of the Horses Andrew Balding who also happens to have a very famous client that he trains horses for the Queen of England He was the trainer when bought the horse that we've kept the horse with him, so break gavel Brad's. At nine o'clock tomorrow morning our time at Royal Ascot on Friday morning Spanish mission my three old of last year. WHO's a four year old of this year will be running at Royal. Ascot there is a very good chance he will scratch. He likes to run. A firm TURF. Ned doesn't look like we have that so. If he does run I will have low expectations and if he does, it rented, simply going to be because. They thought that the ground is too soft for him to be most effective. Yes, some horses prefer one way another for another way. Fashion. They're just like human beings. Some people accelerate certain types of. Things like that and others not so I've got the royal ascot thing that's going on this week at a kind. The Belmont stakes Saturday and I will be putting the picks up on belling dot com at some point, but just don't expect the bay kind of Shebang and all the production that I put into it. In the past. I every year. Get A zillion. Even after I mentioned on the show, we'll be post to get. We still get them and I know why that is is because there's Pixar following people don't listen to the show, which is one of the reasons I've kind of tire to do with this. I Yeah I put stuff up there on the website is a supplement to the show for people who are listeners, but then people here about the success we've had over the years at all. Sorts of people who don't even listen to the show are asking for my picks for free, and then they're generally the ones wine complain, Bitch Bellyache, pick stonework outed. As, you can kind of tell. I'm tired of Jordan. Well I am. But I'll do it this time. The race could have heavy traber to, and that may well be where I end up But I haven't given it a lot of thought yet by the way my horse governor. Morris is not the Belmont stakes. He will not be running the bluegrass next month either he's had a hick up. It's not the end of the world. We hope to have him back by Saratoga IN A. Couple of months or so in background, but he won't be running in the next several weeks. It's very mitre issue, but one that will prevent him from running for. A few weeks. Now continuing the hijacking of the show. I was pondering some comments about June eighteenth day, which of course? I would say of course. Some people don't know in June teeth. Day is because June. TNT isn't an actual date. A portion of the date is taken out of the name. June eighteenth June dean is always June nineteenth. And it takes on obviously more significance than ever this year given the fact that it is a major day in the African American community in the United States and occurs under this backdrop of protests that have been going out of a police brutality had minneapolis Atlanta so forth and so odd and. It's been a big deal for many many many years. It seems to be getting bigger and there is now a growing push to make it a national holiday and I. Believe Given how fast everything is happening I believe it will be a national holiday, and it will happen sooner rather than later. You would ever think these things are going to happen. You never think they're going to happen. As fast as I think they're going to happen I, understand everything. This world wants something like this starts that there's no stop the weather. People think it's a good idea. I think June team. They will become a national holiday. It'll be another day off of work and. So forth and so, what the problem of course with declared as is, is that if it's a federal holiday, they don't do mail. They don't do this. They don't do the other thing in. It's just days in which government government employees are in favor of all holidays because they don't have to work on them. and. If you get rid of one, the question that always becomes. which what and there are a couple that had been in the crosshairs of liberals far. Sometimes, so I was thinking about teeth that it kind of to be wow. A lot of stuff has happened in the month of June, just the general. As I started racking my brain about things had happened to jude now I'm maybe if I if that was if this was July and I was thinking about something that was going on in July to the fourth of July, I would say J.. A lot of things have happened in July, and in fact, a lot of things have happened July. Man First landed on the moon in July. We founded our country. July I was born in July. July is a big month to I wonder if there's anybody that you could sit back and say boy not never happened to that. I probably winter. It'd probably be a winner bunch just because. I don't know. Well like whatever really happened in February. Anything. Nothing comes divide say. That didn't started thing. That hap- Valentine's sudden. You've gotta think that happened I mean a day. Something happened today. We just name the fourth of July. Is We just grab a day? That was the actual day. They presented the Declaration of independence. Was not today that they cited. That's a dispute. But it was the day that it was sort of a pure lay that it like made news back and whatever they had. tweeted it out. They tweeted it out on the fourth of July. So now, the hijacking of the show actually begins. I'm not sure exactly where this comes from. When I made a reference to this. A little bit ago I like what I say. A little bit I mean several years ago, ed. All sorts of people responded to it, and I learned from that that. Don't let all sorts of people respond to it. I'm just going to do the hijacking of myself. See you're clear on this. I'm the hijacker, I with the audience, the hijack hijack. You know where the term hijack. It came from the airplanes. You know back in the day before we. Before we check to see if you had a gun before you gotta the put Beverwijk, but you didn't check anything. Remember that then they only then they brought in the metal detectors to stop people from Brigadier Gods and the next thing you know we were take off all of our close at Dow. You gotta wear masks, and they're putting temperatures out. You would still we're just progressing as a society. Undeniable. No Hi Jackie was people would hijack planes. You don't even remember where they all hijacked to do. Where were they all hijacked to? Now, how would you fly? How hijacked like some puddle jumper from Atlanta Jacksonville to the Middle East? How would you get there? Very few very few planes have the range that go across the the ocean. Some do most of their ages a little bit shortage. Now? They don't go to Cuba was the only place that you can go where you couldn't get arrested because they had no relationship with Cuba. Super Hijacking these planes to take him to Cuba, the problem then with that was the hijacker, but after say in Cuba had okay, there are Marxist. The Revolutionary Cuba sounds good until you have live in Cuba. But that's what they would always do. The plane always end up being hijacked off to Cuba than the criminal would be given shelter by Castro and the airlines. It says let the pilot and fly the plane back. Sometimes they killed the pilots, but usually they just pointed a gun and say hey. Go sit down over there. We're GONNA hijack the plane or they put a gun to his head and say us to Cuba. That's where the whole hijacking big cable off of, but I've never really heard of a case where somebody hijacked a player that somebody else came up and hijacked it away from that hijacker. We're not gonNA. Let that happen here. Hijackings, boy, that's a lot of problems that we have at our will. That's what we actually solve is the last time you heard of a hijacking. Eleven closed the doors. You wouldn't think you would have thought that link. The criminal mind would have figured out a way through that, wouldn't you? What. Well, yeah! I've seen that. The flight attendant will be like pounded on the door to tell the captain. Crack it that little bit I. See those you know what that door opens. The pilots have to take. That's that's. Here comes the pile. We don't want happening now. Like clothes the thing, and then he goes back in there, and then that's the did that note. We used to be able to look right, and you'd see the cockpit. That's all that stuff squad. I made this comment. I bet it was now ten years ago. Is that other one of those things where you sort of had to be there to understand how big this was. And everything that happens when you're a kid has a greater impression on you when you're older and I talk a lot about how I could name all the world series winners in the sixties seventies, probably order but I'd have to wrack my brain to come up with the last three years worth it, but that's true I think probably of all generations, things just make a greater impact sick with music. Most people their musical tastes. That's when they're about twenty five, and they're very heavily influence for the remainder of the life, but the music that was big, essentially from the ages of ten to twenty five, and they remember those things. With incredible precision, we've even joked about. I can name several the nights in which was on television on certain nights in that era and Part of it was there were fewer to remember, but also I just think that when things happen to you and your young. They're ingrained in your member. Abby people seventy five years old, and they'll still dream about things that happened in childhood ad. They still have memories both positive and negative about that stuff. It has an impact so for those of you that are too young to have been around with. This thing happened. You just have to take my word for it that it was a big thing. It remains still quite a thing. Signed the came out in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty seven. A this is you have to. You're not to understand this because this is still a little bit before your time, you have to understand how big listening to top forty radio was and the second half of the sixties. have to understand that. Everybody kind of knew. That music was changing. Radically and anybody under the edge twenty, five or thirty was listening to this. Now. I was a little kid even earlier than that. Listening to the stuff. That was you know as we. I lived in the backyard of my grandparents. Teenage Beer Bar I. Heard was whatever the music of the era was so I was just always kind of cognisant to that, but when you got into the late sixties pretty much beatles awkward it just bigger. And all of a sudden there was this stuff coming around all over the place, and that's the term. The top forty came out almost every radio station would print this list, and they were distributed to the drugstores it everywhere of the top forty. You're listening to the station and they say here's thirty and they play it all week. It wasn't just like Casey case once a week. Every time they play the song they talk about where it was on their chart. And they all have their different top forties, but you know nationally. There are probably pretty much all the same and some stations just, but have them in different numbers, but in a given week I've Telugu almost everybody knew all forty sides had the you'd stay on the charts for usually a couple of months you move up move down and it was based on airplay and all of that stuff. And this is as I say you were hearing all of these new things at the same and so many different kinds of new. I mean. The late sixties is when everything was happening. I mean you were getting Glen Campbell redefining. Country Music of those haunting sides like Wichita Lineman. The Jefferson airplane was out there doing signs about getting yourself drug duck, go to San Francisco and yourself audio reminded. This is a fairly straight laced. Country were playing. This straight laced radio stations. I mean the DJ's on these stations were wearing suits and ties playing a song that was. And then play white rabbit. That's. I mean you're listening to the? Your jaws just dropping, and almost all the stuff you were hearing was either really good or at least very noteworthy. And people, would you know nowadays? People only want to hear the hits back then. You wanted to hear something new. This is going to be what they think. The new hit is here. This I I made. Whether would be the Beatles back. They were coming out like crazy the Beatles that have record every few weeks or so. Here's the deal. Beatles record. Here's the new this here's this. Could me listen to the radio nonstop for this? And these stations just got to be really really big in fact. Fact. There are just talking a few weeks ago, about Chicago stations, and so on and Milwaukee. W. Okay. Why was the first I think was the first real top forty station. A couple of other stations tried it, but you know Bob Berry was the king of the world. There are doing the top forty over there. Other few people that were over at that station in every said he had two or three of these stations that were playing. You'd hear all of this music. That was also different and. Kind of if you're under twenty five, you could say this is our music. Because the parents were SORTA grump and added, but even that you know the bombs at Dad's. Weren't that old? We just thought they were really really old. I mean they're like thirty five years younger than you are right now is what they were. They were that out of it. You could even tell that some of them were interested. Listen to some of this stuff even by that standard. When the Billy Joel came out. It was different and get. You have to bed there. I'm just a kid I was young. This side came out and I. AM telling you everybody talked about it? which was that saying something because there are a lot of others Beatles skies. All this stuff is covered on at the same time. There are a lot of things coming out that a lot of people talk about, but this song everybody talked about. It was so different. With you know fifty three years now nineteen, sixty seven fifty three years of perspective I would say the song over the course of by life reminds me of a few other songs that for whatever reason are. Unbelievably haunting. And what I've brought up a couple of these. It's remarkable. How many people have the exact same songs on that list of being haunting Peggy Lee Sawing? Is that all there? Is that Song freaks people out. It is for every. Site just goofy side. Essentially asked about the meaning of life, and it's one of the ultimate questions that people face. Is this all there is? Is there a point? People who are religious belief that there is a point those who aren't I made. I guess they're Peggy. Lee Is that all there anyway? That's why a weird string parts in there that sound a little eerie. Haunting songs there are just a few. That are like that. I another one that was haunting from that same era was in the year twenty, five, twenty five. Very odd dumb kind of dumped song. Thousands of the year thirty, five, forty, five, forty, five was talking about the world. Be Like at all. It's but that those had impressions on people and because of their haunting nature. Ode to Billie Joe Out. and. It wasn't just US kids. I mean I just remember for. The next two months. Everybody would talk about that side because it was so freaky sounding and it had these questions that weren't answered. The amazing thing about it is the person who wrote the side. It's also the Sager and she's never answered the questions. I just talked to. Carry Wolf runs EPA one sex and oversees the programming for Oliver. Stations in Milwaukee who I would say knows as much about country. Music is anybody in the city. Wouldn't you say? Who knows more than have of our country music? No John Wyatt just like any country music. Carrie wealth. Has Knowledge John John is Patriots of country. Music that anybody in the city? I'd say curry? Wolf has more knowledge about the January. What? His Assistant Quinn. You claim knows something about this. Why didn't go ask I? Didn't go ask her ask. Kerry would carry wolf that Kerry would. He was a baseball pitcher. Carry Wolf that. He said no I I. Don't think any of these questions have been answered. That's the whole thing it. There's a lesson that. If you've got something out there that people kinda wonder about you know what the key to that is. Don't ever answer it. It's like Carly Simon held on for everybody. There people would make up. Lose Your Sylvain about it to all. These stupid dumbbell answers. It was about Warren Beatty no Warren, beatty is about Mick Jagger John F. Kennedy was about Elvis Presley, it was Frank Sinatra everybody had their ridiculous of. Theories about the whole thing and she finally came outed. Answered and gave her explanation did. The Warren Beatty thing just talk about an odd career. He's head so anyway or do Billy Joel, is this? That wasn't like anything else on the radio that and not now. I mean you turned other radio in that era. Try to fight a song that didn't have the drums headed. Try to find a sign that Neville Electric Guitar Ready Anything. She struggled at a Qatari. They put in some goofy strings and she saying in this saw, which is so. weirdly terrifying and so unbelievably sad. You listen to the side and you felt like you were there. I, tell you listen to the side and felt like it was ninety seven degrees. You're sitting in a shack in the south and you're sweating, she. Wrote those lyrics and they were so. What's a good word here? Good Yvonne Kotov. That Ivanka of. It evoked Jesse bolts. That's very we. It makes you think of certain images and Ligon just feel of it. It's so strong at each line of the saw. It's like every line is a painting. The words are put together with such incredible. Precision! So, Eddie we come back after the break I'm GonNa play the song or Davila Joe and discuss some of the things that have been said about it through the years. How? You know almost every side that has become a Ma incredibly huge hit in the American culture was an accident. You read these things about songwriters roadsides I it's amazing. Almost every great saw you see him right at. They say they wrote it in twenty five minutes like the ones that okay. We worked out it for months. Those are never the one sippy COBB. I shouldn't say never I mean you know. Brian Wilson did good vibrations. It took him like eleven months at six studios. He's flying the band all over the country. Is losing his mind at the time, which is part of it, but a lot of them are just kind of. Like this. When when the producer quoted as the thought, it was the ultimate throw. It came into the studio where they Qatar. Saying the thing that's all. It was the session people that were that that recorded it said okay. Let's put some strings out of what the hell difference does that. Make what? He's ever GonNa hear this thing again at it's become of course one of the most talked about salons I would say in the history. Of American music for those of you, that are so young that you don't know anything about the song and don't understand again the times I think a slug like this now just would not play the same way because. Today if something like this came out, everybody would immediately expressed that opinion on twitter, and within three days we burn through. Everybody has had their say with something like this. Where the only way you could talk about. Something was literally to talk to somebody else about it. It took forever for this conversation to work its way through it as I say, everybody was talking about. Sixty. That's just a zillion songs like that would be tour Clark. At. Rock and roll than you hear like British Glam stopping the. That saw was it was not classic rock and roll, but it was sort of that British sounded pop. Just, all that stuff, and then to billy Joel came out literally out of nowhere at the singer. Nobody ever heard of doing this slide that was so unbelievably eerie at not even like anything ever heard and country music attack that PBS special that aired some months ago. Ken Burns is country music. They did an extended log segment. I decide. Ode to Billy Joe as they say what it came, everyone was talking about it at just the. Other, day who is Bobbie Gentry? The Hell! Did Billie Joe mcallister? They throw off the Tallahassee. Bridge Eddie wait. We're GONNA. Play now. Paul's got ready. I want you to listen. We're not gonNA stop and start this but I might talk a little bit throat. Every single lied. You could. It's like as I said. It's a painting. That's been drawn. What I think. Bobbie Gentry I. Did hear the mistake she made. And she never really amounted to much of anything inside of disappeared after this. Every great line. She had as a songwriter she put. Every one of these lines probably could have been another saw. Each line goes off could become a story unto itself. Anyway. From that era somebody said what happened on the third of June you, although at the answer is. Was a June another sleepy dusty del today. was out chopping cotton. Brother was bailing Hay. And at the time, stop long back to the HALF A. And Mama Holler at the back door y'all. What your fee. And then she said I got news this morning from Chuck Todd. Jr.. Today Billie. Joe mcallister jumped off the. HETCHY The rest of the sidewalks played by the hell, he did that by no. As, he passed around the Black Guy. Billy Joel never had liquor sense. Pass the biscuits blink. Off. The low of forty. AGATA TO PLA-. Momma said it was a shame about billy. Jo Any. Bank. Like nothing ever comes to no good own choctaw. Edge. And now Ben. Docked. Rather said he recollected when he and Tom and Billie Joe, From. Bad. Get the. Picture show. She, by where does Talking? Apple Pie. You don't see. Him that the Sawmill yesterday on Choctaw. And now you tell me Billie Jo's jumped. What's happens? I didn't. And you haven't touched single by. That Nice, Pre to rather Taylor drought bad day. Please Own Son. Oh by the way. He said he saw God. That looked a lot like you up on. stage. And she barely Joe was throwing something on the. Hetchy. Turtle question what the hell was that. Year has come and gone since we heard the news about Billy Jo. Oh. Brother married Becky. Tops bought, store in. Though. There was A. Top COTY. And now Mama doesn't seem to want to do much of anything. Tab. CHOCTAW! Do the money. Off, the, town had she had. Winder are incredible. She destroying the guitar is a backstory behind the saw, and it's been told forever. The song is written about as much as just about any side. In American music of Bobby Gentry was kind of a nobody she had these. She came into a studio. Recorded this She had a session producer. It would just heard the guitar. They ended up throwing in the strings figuring well, we gotta do something here. We just got this girl singing the song and She ended up getting a record deal and they put this song on the B side. Of another side and the album. Now, many don't even know what B side is you know to be site is right. Back in the day. Until about nineteen, seventy, four most of music was forty five's not albums. We've reverted back to that. Everything is now disabled. People by people when they do their downloads, they download signals that that people listen to an entire album. By the early to mid seventies, people were listening to the entire because you wanted to hear everything that the artist had to say, plus we came to find out a lot of the really good stuff wasn't the stuff that was played on the radio, but in the sixties into the early seventies records came out there were albums, but everybody released the forty. Forty five in the forty five was just that it was displayed at forty five RPM. The small you adjust your term table by dropping adapter into the middle so that it would fit on, and there'd be a on both sides they put. They put the actual hit on the front side, and they put some other lousy song from the album on the back. You never wanted to put a good sign on the B side. You know why that is. Not Why would you never put a good sign of the V side? No No. You did not want to blow A. he hits on the same record. If you had for example at album and four good signs added, you want them to be all separate records four separate records to sell. You don't want to get A to. There are famous to. The Beatles had a huge to for were both sides became heads penny. Lane was on one side the McCartney song and strawberry fields forever. The Lenin sign was on the other side, but the whole key. To this was, they would take a really good sign. The top was a big hit and put it on the side, but they would never want to put a sign that would have the ability to sell on the B side. Because let's you know. Some of these albums might have five singles on them. Well, you don't WanNa. Double went up and cut into your slapping at the meeting third of zero. But this is still the era in which. DJ's. We're action listening to these records ad I. Remember you know. Anybody when I bought a record I was gonNA listen to both sides. You can't just keep listening to the side over and over. See it at least here. These besides they usually weren't any good. You go back to the side of the Senate that. Somebody somewhere flip this over. It started to play the B. side which is Billy Joel. You could see what the record company put it on the B side. Nothing really sounded like this didn't appear to be a hit. There was no real course there wasn't any beat. There wasn't any anything. It's just this this weird saga, but this girl singer and something about somewhere down south. Ed. The old man's dead mom doesn't know why the daughter does. It have an appetite and something happened on some damn bridge in the middle of nowhere, and they're all sweating end. That's all it like once. This thing started to get played. It created these mysteries that I think the reason that created the mysteries is because the lines once you started to listen to it and. You know back in the era there. All the old people were saying you can't understand the lyrics well, anybody can understand these lurch saying them slow slowly. There's no actual sound of the music. She just keeps strumming the same notes over and the guitar. The violence keeps sounding like some mass murderer is going on would listen to this, and these lines are so captivated anyway all these years Bobbie gentry has never answered the question. Of why Billie Joe jumped off the bridge. And what she and. The narrator presumably Bobbie gentry. The protagonist in the sawing threw off the bridge. So because we don't know it's resulted in the. The fact that people keep talking about it if she would have come out three months later and say wow. They threw a baby off the bridge there. Nobody ever talked about it. The theories that are out there that is the number one theory that they probably had a baby, and it was still born, and they threw it off the bridge, and then you know Billy Joel couldn't handle that and he went on to commit suicide. That theory is out there, but it could be. Anything it's just a captivating amazing song and. To this I mean other people have recorded other sides like this, but they almost never become hits so sparse so spare so little real melody ready to it the writing on this. I was just something they captivated so many people led to this day I, mean I. If you googled oh Billie Joe I. You probably get eighty five trillion pages of this. They just go on and on and on Ed. Bobbie, Gentry who was able to write amount. Every line was a novel. Never really. She had a few other hits, but never a monitor all that much. Of any other thing is, she was not the sounds. It sounds so realistic like she had to grow up in the south. I think she went to Ucla. mean she just like country music head? Created the slang sort of out of nowhere that I mean it reads like William Faulkner novel. But that's the back story to it. And that was the hijacking of the show in which this topic sort of came out of nowhere, but I. Just felt a need to do something like that. The days that you had to be there. Everybody was talking about sighing. It was my with this song was on the charts for after the other thing was. It got played almost every kind of radio four bed. Like. The stations like back in the day. What WTMJ would play, they play like easy listening. They play the sign because it wasn't rock and roll the country stations play because then at. The top forty stations were playing it because it's on the top forty, because everybody was buying it so is that almost every type of radio station and it just became this I'm the president thing that was sort of. Everywhere and like a lot of other great sides the record company when they got, it didn't recognize it as a hit, they did at some point as I said. The thing got slapped onto a single, and somebody flipped it over and played the B side, and it became the yet but. So, many things had to happen this thing which has turned out to be part of the American culture. Would never. been. Heard. But as John Wyatt, saying why are you quoting John Wyatt? How do you know that? So? What other words? I just made nine thousand comments, and all you could talk about is the John, Wyatt comment, of course I guess everybody has heard all the bike hobbits. What if I? Just we just like didn't pass along John Wyatt's comment. That's the old if the tree falls in the woods, and nobody hears it so. Yeah. She's essentially disappeared of. What. To do something like this. You had to be halfway weird to come up with the slide. That was that eerie and had those I mean some of the lines here. The black eyed peas lied of. Let me find it. Well, here's a good one. I was out shopping cotton and my brother was bailing Hay. Just see that. And it was the third of June another sleepy dusty. Delta Day. Mama out the back door y'all remember to wipe your feet, and then she said I got some news this morning. From choctaw Ridge Billie Joe mcallister jumped off the Tallahassee Bridge fifty years. You'd think we'd know when you say if she actually say it was A. Baby Billy Joel Coen handle. It killed himself. They threw the baby off their meds. Probably Still Board and other. After you so much for any discussion on this there are some things we're better off, not knowing the answer, so you can go out and talk about it forever and ever and ever. Now. The smog would have some political point of view associated to it. Ed I'm sure somehow there would be some racism that resulted in whatever it was that happened did. Song would have had the ability to stand on its own. Alright. It's four three news talk. Another thirty W is. Eleven thirty W I S and mark late afternoon show. I have got to be discussing the situation in menominee balls superior going to be Ground Zero for. At least the day it may be for several days to come the protests in southeastern Wisconsin whether they're bringing it on themselves or not. Et CETERA. But I wanted to use the term. Hijack Mayo own show by just breaking off from this somewhere and we. Played the famous Bobbie Gentry Song Ode to Billie Joe which transfixed the nation for a while in the sixties. It is still. flunks people as to what it was about and the incredible Erie? Nature of the saw sawing, and how brilliantly written. it was pulses people that they did a dumb movie like ten years later in which they explained it, and there's a gay subplots someone well as we'll be a separate from the sign. They just made a movie about the sign. The other thing that people have talked about over the years to get all these theories are interesting. When you have a song like this, it could have been any number of things. One of the most famous race racist murders in American history was the till Kelly. You'll hear peel still. Hear people talk about Mattel. Emmett till was thrown into the Tallahassee River. Had of the fifties. He was an African American child. He was in his teens as I recall who moved from. With his family downed, Mississippi and the story was that he flirted with a white woman and. Her husband and Couple of other people got him tortured and threw him into the river. Which again would fit? With the lyrics to the saw, did they kill somebody and throw them into the riverhead? Is that why Billy Joe killed himself after that WHO knows it could've eddie number of things, but not ever answering what it was just creates this incredible mystery that people has about the song and. I don't know if it's the guitar strumming that makes the song of or if it's the strings, but the fact that there's no other instrumentation in there just creates this haunting backdrop that feels so unbelievably. real those the whole Bobbie gentry thing in which she just She's been seen in forty five years John. Wyatt seems to know about this. Should we let him talk about it? Or should we just just tell him that? He's not allowed to throw his theories out on this thing. We didn't want to take any callers theories, because everybody et for everybody thinks they know well. The only person who knows is Bobbie Gentry, and it's also possible. She does it though you know. What David Chases asked about the Sopranos Ending Tony, killed or nod he's. It's up to you to decide that. You know maybe it could have been both, or it could have been obviously he was killed, or maybe they just live happily ever after when you don't tell us when you create art, and you don't answer the question that's clearly the intent is to not answer the question and to leave things open to interpretation, which many people of course aren't satisfied with. Miss Manny Great. Gone with the wind now banned by HBO what. Did Rhett and Scarlett O'Hara. Ever get together. We don't know which makes you wonder forever. Rather than all these things that answer the question which gives you short-term satisfaction. The stuff you really remember are the great unanswered questions. Anyway. It's four eleven at eleven thirty W. It's time for rapid traffic, so was before your time, but not much not well. I mean I was born. The let's say now. Month was released practically. Away I said it was right in the era where I as a kid at every kid I always listen to top forty radio everybody just everybody did because all this stuff was just amazingly happening in with all the stuff that I mean every other song would make impact them. The the animals that come up do something. Nothing sounded like the animals, and here's the Beatles the Beatles sound change so much just from year to year going from the light British pop. Pop to the incredibly elaborate stuff that they were, and that was only six or seven year period, and then this thing just came out, and even in the midst of people buzzing about any Jimi Hendrix stuff is coming on in that era so much happening even with this, this slide really touched everybody and it wasn't just young people because of the nature of the Cy Plitt every kind of radio station. There was an everybody just had a thought an opinion. About it played into people's stereotypes about the south, but it also seemed true. To the southern nature to get, it could have been anything I mean billy. Joel could have been one of the guys that killed till. Maybe they just had a baby. Maybe he was gay and couldn't hand. Theories that people put, but that's the brilliance of writing. It could have been a lot of stuff. Could it have yeah I? Mean it's and the theories I. Think are superfluous to just how great the song! That's the point you know. The what they threw off the Tallahassee Bridge. It's like in the mystery movies. It's a macguffin. It doesn't matter what it is adult Ed. That's that's what makes it so great and three, so we keep talking about. It is because we don't know but the story the song itself and those lives I mean. I I mentioned that she's from California. Actually look this up. She Actors Board and Mississippi. Yeah, we'll have to palm springs really early on at the age of thirteen, and then went to Ucla so she's got youthful roots in the south, but basically she was part of a family to get our mother. I guess the father died. Tuesday divorced in there and she kicked her out. She just a smart kid who went off to UCLA. Did this a few other things and She's really. She's apparently alive, but she just hasn't done interviews. WHO's a complete recluse Sergei her last? Doesn't do it and she's. She's lived somewhere probably under some other name, they think they think she's either living in the gated community. These are the two of the theories I've heard is she lives in a gated community in Memphis or a gated community in Los, Angeles? I mean. How could you know the way the Internet? I? mean. We got contact tracing. We're tree just. Bill Microsoft probably knows they probably have a bug. Second or computer somewhere where we can figure it out, you know the last time anybody saw was at the academy country. Music Awards in one thousand, nine, hundred two. She what the Academy Country Music was the last. One thousand, nine hundred. That's last time anybody saw her, and she has not done music in years, even before that and She released an album or or in the late seventies, and then she was on the tonight show in seventy, eight, or so, and that was all more than forty years. Yeah, so I mean she has not been. Just. She just decided to drop out creating another addict, but so she rises so that's matic that her life becomes. At an egg less there a penpal who even claimed to have written the song taking a low of. People, who claim they met her and she they enter because she's a recluse. I talked to Bobbie Gentry and she told me it was because well. How can you ever disprove that given the fact that she won't come out and say this person's full of crap. It has make it up right. But, yeah, because because she only wrote. You know a few albums worth of songs. people think that she couldn't have written the song because she didn't have the chops to do so, but obviously that doesn't make any sense. Because everything she wrote is of a style that is consistent. And nobody understood I mean it. She got a record contract, but it wasn't even thought by the people who heard it to be. A hit was on the B side as I said he just was, but there's a lot of. They argued about it. Yeah, they argued about one. Side of the B. Came out in that era in which. The original nobody really believed it and her original version. The Demo they got was seven minutes long. There was way more to the song then wound up. Here that maybe maybe that last paragraphs. She's probably sitting. There wasn't added the song. I'm quite. So somewhere out there. Maybe it's the answer. was originally. This demo was obviously way too long to put on record because they wanted the records shores seven minutes. Oh, Hey! Jude was seven and a half eight minutes at that. Time yeah, it was only because the Beatles that they were able to get away with it American pie at up into two sides. They put it on two sides right when they came as a single. In the but this ray over there you go back and listen to all the signs of chartered in nineteen sixty seven. I bet this is the only one where it's a guitar. It strikes. I don't. Like this which makes it such an unusual hit, because if obviously this style of music produced hits, there would have been zillions like it was so unique, and it created that question plus as I say all of those lines that were in there and. Every lyric is clear. You could tell what she was saying. Each word of it add. You know there is other music that Kris Kristofferson was writing these complicated Sohn's about the south back then and a lot of stuff. Just so haunting, it's tone and as I say each line becomes. But you can just see. It's a portrait of it. It was the third of June another sleepy dusty. Delta. Day, you could see that. I mean okay. That's backfired country. That's what that's what that is. Something seems like nothing ever comes to know good on Choctaw Ridge. We're all losers. What a creative way of! Saying it and then you know the PAT. They were talking to the pastor. The pastor saw at pastor. Ones come over for dinner. He wants a talk. He knows something he that he saw up up there on the sobbed throwing something in there all these mysteries that are out there. It was sold. Intricately created as I say I just wonder if. She. Essentially everything that she had went into the saw and there wasn't that much more creativity left there, so many lines that are in there. They stuck with that with movie directors in the first movie. Ever make every trick that they ever. occurred to filmmaking to put it to the first movie at it becomes hard to innovate after that because they did it all already know they've put a lot of money into next album and it just didn't go any that went. Get enough she did. She tried to get a bunch of ballads. Did she go off and do a? She had a completely original idea for her next album, and it was just too bizarre and just couldn't. Do did this bizarre, so I was a hit. Let's get even more bizarre rather than understand that she. There's a lot of a lot of the dogs that are really weird. We're one hit wonder kind of. mean she had one other great hit called fancy which eventually reba would would cover, but it was a big hit for From the Carol Burnett Show. Vicki Lawrence Lawrence! And a little more upbeat and solid. You're right. That was done by a bunch of people, but You, know she just she produced. What are the? It's almost like the WHO's the righter from the south. WHO DID Two kilobytes. Bird Harper Lee. Also publicity wrote like one of the greatest albums of all time and okay, not not gonNA. Write another damn thing ever and I think she did that when she was a teenager also didn't. She was young, I don't think she was a teenager, but she was young. Yeah, it was pretty much. It was her first thing, really yeah, and then they ended up releasing a book after she was dead, or maybe right at the tail end of her life that just after it was thought that it was no good, it was not good. That was my hijacking of the If. They would've been smart which they weren't. They would release the thing on June third, but again that would have meant that. They knew that this was going to be a hit and they did know they WANNA. Slap it on the side i. made it you know radio was in those days, probably somebody to big city somewhere some big city dj listen to both sides thing on there and got it played. That is literally how breaks occurred. And this was her first hit as you said so, it wasn't like her stuff was okay. Here's the Beatles thing we're GONNA play this. It got played because somebody out. There believed that it a notice that had that not happened. We'd ever would hurt this thing I. Mean You Watch? The clean will be about how Freddie Mercury fought for Bohemian rhapsody to make it the first single, but they were already big, and they had done a lot of things and that's. You know would have been found at the story that you know if you watch Jersey boys where they were Frankie Valli and bob fought so hard for. Your to good to be true can't take my eyes off of you, but again he was a superstar at Hadas. ZILLION hits. Chances are that would have got note there. At this point. Bobby was nobody who produce this weird solid song in this era, in which all these other things were happening at music almost entirely rocket roll Ed. I I'd say this is one of the most memorable signs in American history. And it's certainly one of the most written and talked about really. Forever I generally don't like story signs because. I don't like Piano Man I. Don't like taxi idling anything here. He dead. Because once you hear it. You just hearing the same thing over and over and over again there's something about audibility. Joe The and it's not like you hear what to billy. Joe Allowed even the oldies stations. Don't play all that much when you do here at though you take notice of it was traffic so forty one southbound on capitol drive. We got the center lane blocked with some sort of. Debris of some kind. Anyway it requires the county not send out the highway crews to clean it up because it evidently has stuck to the road. It's not just laying on the road so now we've got the two now looks like they've got the to wits debris because protests these they would let them stay in the middle of the road runs debris. They will pick it picking it up. So. We're working on that. And that's why. Squeezing over this weird debris. It stuck to the Road Ed at stuck. It looks like it could be tar or something I. It's black and it's. Like dark well, that sounds like yeah, so these are at the beginning of it, and then it faithful syrup. It'll be interesting. Yeah so I. Don't know what it is, but I do know that it's causing a major nightmare on forty-one southbound now at the backups starting at Appleton. By just that one right lane now that something fell off a truck you could just see. Barrel fallen off or something. Something fell off a truck twenty six minutes from good. Driving one of these trucks and something falls I'm just gonNA. Keep going because you aren't gonNA WANNA double back. It'd be the guy picking that stuff. Just leave. Like when these ships ago well, they used to come all the way through from China. It's all the Pacific Ocean was is all the chips and China bringing all the credit you know? Nike shoes everything over. You'd hear stories of those the canisters. What do they call those things you know the containers potato? Yeah, the containers that around there, but every now and then what of the because they stack of so high you see when? We. See what of these things? Containers Stack way above the top of the ship in every one of them was just fall off and drop into the drink. It's not like they go back and retrieve the. People are worried about the straws. The bottom of the ocean is filled with sneakers and all this other stuff from China that falls off the ship's all the time, and that's a common thing that happens. It is just okay. It's a loss. It just drops to the bottom of the see the thing Russell did eventually the shoes followed eeking billion years from now, but we're worried about the straw, but you don't hear much about the straws. These days the straws have been knocked away in terms of the average moved down is down the priority list. Why who would who would have thought? We would urine for the days in which they were telling us. We can't have straws. We thought they were pains in the ass then. Those are the salad days. Those are the good old days. All they wanted to do was take our straws away from us. Reality. Right. I said that Reality Bites? You'll get series now for people. You thought your series on the WHO What does village mcallister throw off the Tallahassee? Bridge Weird Way to get to the reality bites there to get a lot of theories. Are that also head of those? Take care of them in prepare long memo and give it to me in six weeks. Standing up for Milwaukee this is the mark belling late afternoon show on news. Talk Eleven thirty W I. Would have spotted targeted there. I talked about that a few days ago on the program this. Mania that is going on with young people. It's almost the tally young bales who in the fact that they don't have any sports to bet? I right now are engaging in bizarro trading on the stock market. Moves that seem to be irrational and make no sense. Almost being done for the purpose of being outrageous. You could brag on social media about what you had dodd. It's one thing to buy and sell stock I mean if you. Buy a stock the worst that can happen is you lose all your money. When these people start getting involved in options and futures, however, your losses can get into infinity and. Doing the. kind of mind boggling really and. It's almost entirely young people that again this disconnect that they seem to have with Cam. Do It on the computer, so it's not really real. No idiots real. It Israel see when they're doing all of their sports betting online. You have to have money in your account. But when you're doing margin trading, you don't have to put the money up and. You know the broker doesn't have to have the money in front of you, or you might be putting up money. You're getting from Mommy and Daddy. Had you know? The statements that worth start some of this stuff and sometimes they get access to a lot of money because they're well off, but. It's the money is invisible until it becomes real as opposed to you know. The Belmont stakes is coming up most of the OT. Bees are closed i. don't think Potter is opened yet. If you want to bet on the race, you establish an account, it's legal. He can horse racing. He get any number of legal accounts in the united that people keep asking me to recommend one. All the ones that are based in America are fide, and I can't. I'm not going to endorse one of them, but there's just a bunch of and just don't do any of this stuff based in foreign countries where. It's illegal pace with an American company that's tied into whether the racetrack companies that you can google it to. Check out a bunch of them, but they're all the names that you know. They advertise all the time, but they require you of course to put the money up. You you know you have to make it a positive out of an account, and you bet off the money that you've deposited in the same way that if you go to an actual race track, if you bet ten dollars a number four, you gotta give the teller ten dollars, or he doesn't give you the ticket. But these people that are out there goofing around of the stock back almost all tried to be heroes at yet. It's I I. Remember when I first got involved in any kind of stock trading I'd like most people I opened an account of mutual fund. There you have no control. You you you. You know you can regain your shares you. You're not buying anything at. It took me years to have the guts to even by an individual stock, add. The sense that so many people of the millennial generation seemed to have that they know everything, and in many cases they don't know. Anything? You know most young people thought I. Mean I thought I do everything to. Although we kind of knew we didn't. Good thing was none of in my generation. Nobody at the age of twenty two had anybody to be able to blow it on the stock market was the advantage of grow. You know being funny to and Jimmy Carter was president of the United States not only did none of the twenty. somethings have any money, not what body? Days are about to come. There's Joe Biden hanging around the switch yet speaking of Joe Biden. Let me work this, said remember who I predicted last year would be the Democratic nominee for president yet is is right just can't be. I thought it would be come on the Harris. I thought she ticked every box that liberals care about. She ran for president at what you're talking about going nowhere fast despite all the money and the best staff anybody could buy. She can didn't give within two months of the Iowa caucuses. She had dropped out of the race. She's now on that shorter and shorter list to be vice president. I'm going to doubled. I predict that so Biden's running mate is going to be given the fact that everybody knows that if Biden is elected, he's likely to quit. They'll just Joe's in over his head Joe's Losada's Marvel's then. She's the President I. It could even happen if if he wins the you know. He could even happened before the actual election and drop out if he starts followed a part of the campaign trail, the debates with trump it. Can't put his words together or something or another but I i. I think if you're biding. That's the likely safer choice because as much of a radical is she is. She has been quote. Unquote vetted having run for office repeatedly in California then elected senator from the largest state of the United States. There isn't anything all that surprising. I, mean most of her baggage is just the cheese. An extreme liberal and a demagogue the number that she did on Brad. Kavanagh is chilling that somebody could be that cold to try to destroy someone's life simply for raw power. But she's the known commodity. We're going to be a little bit later on discussing the situation in menominee balls because it is rather captivating. To see a story like this in which? A rather quiet, but not all that small suburb. Is Suddenly Ground Zero for all of these protests, and it's a community that has had such. Interesting politics over the years in which the elected officials are almost always much more liberal than the community as a whole. Now, being caught in the middle of this in his always saying earlier in the program, it is clear to me that the people who menominee falls. Don't know what to do about it, and they don't know how to stop this thing. From getting out of control, it's GonNa. Go One of two ways. It's either going to allow. This is going to be a thing in which you're going to see. Demonstrations that get bigger off as we approached, the weekend could turn into something. That is violent and I. Don't know which way it's going to go, but I think that menominee falls doesn't know what to do and I'm going to discuss that a little later out of the. I want to move to the Jefferson County story right now. In fact, we have weirdly to Jefferson County story, so let's do them back to back. There was a shootout overnight and two people are dead however. This doesn't appear to be a police involved shooting. There was an exchange of gunfire. Involving police, but from the indications I have the two bodies that were found me about already been dead prior to that. Let me just quote the story here from Fox. Six Wisconsin Department justice to visit a criminal investigation and the opposite. The fire marshal are investigating Dow deaths of two individuals at a fire in the town of Sumner. That's not too far from Fort Atkinson. A news release says on the evening of Tuesday January sixteenth of course last night in Jefferson, county sheriff's office was dispatched to a home in sumner for possible burglary. The letter jacked. For All these people who want to de-fund the police and bash the police. Who Do an affordability? Joe On this walk through this story chronologically. toutes sumner. I'm not sure exactly where that is other than. It's near Fort Acted, said but as I look at it. The visuals here at appears to be out in the country if you know what I mean. You get a report that there's a burglar going on out in the country. You hope a small town cops and Deputies around the United States have gotten calls like that over the years. This is a constant on. This is what American policing is. As a burglary and somebody busted into the hardware store. Somebody's in somebody's garage. Somebody might be at a house something by. It's what it is. And Ninety nine times out of one hundred. It's nothing. You find a burglar some Gupta and they're stealing something or you find that the burglar left and it swiped a few things ran off and you start doing fingerprints and all that stuff. That is what it is. I would think that the average law enforcement officer off a call on something like this just nothing think of it. The deputy arrives. He sees people laying flight based on on the driveway while. This is not something that's going to happen every day to a sheriff's deputy in Jefferson County or for that matter really anywhere. Now for all these COP bashes out there. Who Judge Police officers on. Their instantaneous reaction things. Imagine how quickly your mindset changes you see two bodies lay faced out. What's the first thought that comes I? Don't know that everybody would have the same thought. What's the first thought that comes to your mind? There's two bodies land face, Dodd. What you say that would not be my first thought. My I thought he has. Is there somebody pointing a gun at right now? That's why I thought my instant instant, INC tip reaction would be to draw by gun to people that are down. Obviously, somebody shot the. Politics, WELP, somebody shot somebody else and then shot himself. My thought is. Is there somebody with a gun who might now shoot me because I'm the cop that arrived on the scene? Any number of thoughts the point is probably every thought that you could think of would race through that same cops mind in three seconds that they would have thirty five thoughts racing and three seconds. That's how our minds work. Interestingly Paul Lives in Cedar. Burbank's thinks murder-suicide me. WHO LIVES MILWAUKEE? Thinks it's somebody's GonNa. Shoot me right now. We're all creatures of our backgrounds. The story continues. They were later determined to have already been dead. The deputy then took fire from the residence so the thing that I was talking about. Is there somebody's GonNa? Shoot it be according to the Fox six report, which comes obviously from the sheriff's department. Somebody starts shooting now at the deputy, so we've got to people who are Gad laying in the driveway and now shots are fired. This deputy apparently is still the only person who has responded. Sheriff's department. It's not like big city police department generally have two people in the car. Most Sheriff's deputies are just working solo, so he's the only one on the scene, and that would logically be the sort of thing that what Jefferson Cardi's big county he was. This is his sector area was the one that responded to this report of the burglary. He gets there now and somebody's okay. There's a cop out here now. Shots are fired. Now imagine what's going through, the deputies had. The deputy returned fire and then saw smoke coming from inside the residence. There's no more information that's been released so far than that. Authorities are asking for assistance from the public. On this incident, it is unclear as to whether or not any what has been arrested, but it sounds like there was it because. The authorities are asking for information. For anybody who was driving in the vicinity of the town of Sumner in this specific words or the highway, one six and county highway the urge to contact the sheriff's department. What we are hearing is is that they do not believe. This was random that this was a targeted attack and other words whoever killed these two people when specifically looking for those two people Ed. The first things that come to mind would be a family situation. The next thing that comes to mind is is drugs the and then after that it could be anything else under the Sun. But again for people who are so quick to judge police officers who? Have to take deadly fire think about how little and I am not defending. The shopping case had minneapolis which was just. Seems to be unless we find out. Some shocking information from additional video appears to have been out murder, and I'm not defending what happened in Atlanta Georgia, but so many of these cases, Michael Brown and St Louis and so many of the others things happen very very quickly, and often the the response to law enforcement, easy and reaction to a something that has happened to them, and it's not like you approach these situations. Where immediately okay, this is going to become a shooting. Let's get myself mentally prepared. It happens from I'M GONNA. Check outside serves at star. Some. There's a burglary. Somebody's proud or out of the house. The next thing you know to dead bodies now Bam, Bam Bam shoot NECC-. That's how this stuff works. And these people who are so harshly judging an entire every law enforcement officer in the country as scum of the earth, because you find one goof in Minneapolis and another one in Atlanta, out of all of the officers, responding to all of the situations. Is Not only outrageous reaction. It is morally wrong. We've been covering the counties in southeastern Wisconsin really all over the state that have been proposing coney and health ordinances. The reason they're doing. It is because the State Supreme Court struck Down Enforcement Statute to fifty to the state law that was used by Tony. Iverson Andrea Palm to issue an order locking down the entire state. You're now seeing county health offices at the urging of the. The governor's office putting together proposals of their own that would allow each county to be able to impose its own severe lacked out what we have been noticing is is that these draft ordinances that are coming out? They're very similar from county to county which would tell me that there is coordination coming here probably from his office and they tend to have language that is extremely Straw. They're giving to these health. Officers writes that cops don't have. For a police officer wetter a home without a search warrant. They have to have probable cause. And that probable causes that at a very very high level, you need to have probable cause just to get award to enter without a warrant. Cases throw it out of all the time. Because I needed a warrant for this, you needed. Some of the instances would seem obvious. Of course. The police officers should be able to go, and they can't. These ordinances that are being proposed allow health officers to enter homes. Against the will of the accurate, if they merely suspect, someone is sick. And allows them to order people out of the homes or can quarantine. People who are healthy confiscate their furniture confiscate their property. We're talking about giving health officers authority that is granted in only the most restrictive totalitarian societies. Might suggest the liberals given that you're so mortified about the power that we have given police officers. Do you really want to have health officers having the authority to go into the homes of people who may have any number of all sorts of things that they don't want anybody to know about in their house to just go in there just because somebody thinks that somebody somewhere. Might have a sore throat. or their temperature was two tenths of a degree higher that whatever the standard is is from the health from the from the Health Nazis in that Particular County so anyway, Jefferson. County now has one for those of you live in Jefferson County and that's the county. That's an interesting county you talk about. What if you know they talk about well? What if you match like somebody who really strong temper with most quiet person in the world, or if a really fact I married really skinny woman kind of a child they would have. That's at Jefferson County is Jefferson County is bordered on the west by Dang, Saudi bordered on the east by Waukesha. See. You have one of the most. Could you have let it well? The most conservative Judge County in the state in Waukesha County and the most liberal large county in the state of Dang. Cody at each end of this sucker. Then you got rock county to the South Dodge county to the to the north I mean. It's a political amalgamation in the county. itself is kind of swaying. It's got a not of conservative voters and allowed liberal voters at. A so admitted in any event. If you live in Jefferson County, you need to be aware of this and you need to contact county board member and kill this. What we have seen is that in communities, people become aware of what's being plotted here. We're talking about giving this unbelievably extreme authority to health officers. Authority that we have already seen has been grotesquely abused in the state of Wisconsin at both the state and the local level in the Balchik of the whole, Kobe situation you need to make sure that they do not get this authority, and that no bureaucrat is ever given this type of authority to upset people's lives and trample over every right that we would ever have just because somebody who might not even have a master's degree has decided that it's within their purview. To stick their nose into everybody else's health situation, and for all of the people as well, they're only going to use this in an extreme circumstance. That's what I would have thought before covid. That's before I saw top harassing people because they heard that their kid was play at the neighbor's house. Bought the audience out around out. Pulses that can. Where do you? When do you have a horse running? Was, I. Not Clear on that. Be The tuned in late then they wouldn't know. The horse was running at all. I don't have but. I didn't I have a horse running tomorrow morning? I own five percent of him. He's running at Royal. Ascot in on what race it is, but it's a race. It's on at nine o'clock central time. It is a listed stakes for those who've horse. Racing is listed below the level of graded. Restricted to two year olds hardly any two year olds and even started to ride yet. So this is a horse. They read the goodness I race at Newmarket. He'll be ready at Royal Ascot. Don't know what to expect because it's been raining. A lot in the ground will be soft. That can result. I'd come, and it's longer race the two year olds normally would run. This horse appears to have stamina is. We name and we bought him. His name is bright devil. Could be named after damn near anybody that right right devil. His name is dark angel, which is where I guess the day it's kind of a clever Dave actually dark angel is the Sira. He's running it real. Ascott in those races are all rail. Ascott all week Tuesday starting yesterday through. Saturday is on NBC sports that work at. It's the morning I think the coverage is six thirty about new and. I raised tomorrow is around. I'm nine o'clock I will be putting Belmont. STAKES PICKS UP ON BELLING DOT COM. They I don't know when they'll be up be sometime before Saturday morning. It might be as early as tomorrow afternoon to might be later than that. It won't be the big production down the past because. Staffing stuff cetera etcetera etcetera etcetera etcetera. It goes without saying that. The media coverage of corona virus has been butchered. Who's going to argue that no one right the media? I guess would argue it. One of the flaws in their coverage was from the beginning. They suspended all skepticism. Of the directives that were coming there became the so-called embrace of experts well, experts, experts, experts experts experts. They, hero worshipped what. Experts were saying who we've learned from. The stock market has just about anything that's out there. A good percentage of people who are experts are wrong. All the time and experts often disagree with one another. And they projections. And Somehow accepted them to be Gospel fact, this is not like forecasting the weather two to three days in advance which they can do some accuracy. It's like people who are projecting what's going to happen in the climate in twenty and thirty years. No real clue, but it doesn't stop them from predicting. Anyway, the media, where did an immediately gravitated toward all of the worst case projections and treated them as fact. They also suspended any skepticism. In the statements that were being made by hospital officials, for example rather than questioning the air, responsible and stupid decisions made, and by the way it looks like. Advocate auroras motor try to merge their way out of the latest mess that they're in. We hear that they're going to merge with the hospital. Chain in Michigan Scott to become one big giant national company making dumber decisions. The bigger gets the Medical College of Wisconsin I mean this guy. Raymond is talking to the Business Journal all the time. Waiting for him to get one thing, right, he runs the medical college. You would think for Heaven's sakes that he ran a tic-tac-toe school. Given how he's been wrong about everything they've been wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong. They have created a public health crises in this country by denying people mental health treatment, Harpreet mccancer procedures routine testing physical examination, any number of things that were put on hold because they over prioritize the Kobe thing. They blew a fortune building. Overflow hospitals for bid that we're not needed. We've wasted a fortune commissioning companies to manufacture ventilators that are not even close to be needed and. We gave public health guidance as to how to avoid the virus that turned onto. Iraq sanitize all the services you can't. It's almost impossible to get it off of a surface shutdown this unless you have close contact, you're not passing it along and so. But the worst part of all. has been the. In the coverage about the actual things that are occurring. I'll use that example here illustrate my point. Let's imagine the numbers come in today from two states. Let me grab a perfect. Is close similar states. I can think of North Dakota and South Dakota. You'll joke. What city stated article added South Dakota. What of North Dakota's north of South Dakota, it's not even funny. But I've eat if you were at what you're in the other. Would you even know the efforts? South Dakota the Black Hills. They have. Mount Rushmore Sturgis. Ellis North Dakota have covered this a few weeks ago. Didn't we see? We think we already established North Dakota has nothing South Dakota has everything I. Don't know why that came up, but it managed to come up again, so let's imagine North Dakota South Dakota. And the numbers of Kobe cases come out on a given day. North Dakota spikes upward and South Dakota's numbers crash. Which story gets reported? The North Dakota story would be all over the news and no one would know about the South Dakota numbers. It's just the way it is. Obviously they are equally newsworthy. If there's a significant move one way or another in the numbers, it's news. If we have a major increase in cases that is newsworthy at if we have a major decrease in cases that ought to be equally newsworthy, so anyway we're getting coverage from the media will allow their spikes around the country true there are, but you are not hearing the states that are going in the opposite direction at one of them. Is this state? Now I've linked this up on belling dot com I actually wrote a story for those of you. Who To? Read it later. It's short and I'll summarize it here. The hospitalization numbers in Wisconsin plummeting at a rapid rate. The largest hospital chain of the state is advocate Aurora. They have hospitals all over the state and the dominant healthcare provider here in southeastern Wisconsin. For those of you who are not from the immediate Milwaukee Area Advocate Aurora that cyanide that Saint Luke's. That's west Alice Memorial. It's Elm Brook, and then they've hospitals overseeing all show there in the Fox. Valley, Major Healthcare Company. And the largest in the state of Wisconsin. As of June fifteenth, which would now be two days ago that the most recent numbers I have. The number of people hospitalized at all of the Aurora. Hospitals in Wisconsin combined with Calvin. Four. Sixty four people in the hospital and the entire chain. And the total number of people hospitalized in the entire state. All hospitals combined. With Kovic is now down to two forty four. That is a ten week low and the numbers plummeted just in the last several days. These could reverse. And I've been saying all along that anybody who tries to make an accurate one hundred percent certain forecast about the future. They're just guessing because we don't know what we can. However do is honestly evaluate what is happening. and. What is happening now? Is that we have been since the middle of pro on a long-term flatlined trend in the united, states, where the number of positive new cases and the number of hospitalizations has gone down, but not a lot. It has been a long long law and slow, downward slope, slow, almost flat. In other words, we had a spike at ended, but the thing has not gone away in Wisconsin right now. We are now seeing though for the first time since the spike ended. Another declassified. What is to me newsworthy about this declining Wisconsin is it coincides with the period at which we had mass violation of the guidance on social distancing not only does it come after the lockout orders ended virtually everywhere. We are now a full two and a half weeks into the protests that occurred all over the state of Wisconsin with regard to George Floyd. The biggest protests of all were the ones that occurred two and a half weeks ago that I the last weekend. In May. That was the period in which we had the big protests outside the police there six of a walkie, the looting occurred that Friday a walkie, and so then we started to spread all over the state. They were being held in Green Bay Etcetera. What we've been told is it's often fourteen days between exposure getting really sick now I don't know if that's GonNa play out all the way through, but we've heard that we're better than fourteen days in now. We might get spike in five days. These protests have had their odd and on and on and on. There's No side to me that there ebbing at all. The violence appears to have ended in Madison. We haven't had many cases of looting in Milwaukee, but they're still protests. They're still close contact. There's still violation of all social distancing and so on. Me Time. Outside of Milwaukee and Madison virtually every in the state is open oversaw. The restaurants are open while you can't go to sporting events. Church attendance is restricted, and so what we are returning to at least some sense of people mixing with one another again. Rather than causing a spike as many predicted in Wisconsin there's been no spike. We keep going down I. Don't know if that will continue. What I do know is that it is happening, and no one will tell you about it. If you're wondering where the hospitalization numbers have been. Really ever since the spike in Wisconsin, we've been four fifty or lower. and. We spent a lot of time in the mid to upper threes, as we moved all the way through the month of May to now be in the twos, two forty four statewide. Down by the way just forty three days and down from the three hundred last week. Again, maybe it. Maybe it's just a blip, but that blip downward if that's all, it is curd in coinciding with the mass violation of civil lactose orders with all of the people that were going out and getting involved in those protests, which those those first few days were very very large. Now get. Maybe people who were at the protests, some people got sick. They keep protesting. They expose other people. As time goes on, you get fourteen days out. Say from a week ago it the other words seven days so now maybe numbers will spike, and maybe these protesters are causing. Spike and call, but so far they have not. Just, the opposite has occurred. Again which would seem to imply to May. That lockdowns social distancing. All of this stuff doesn't move the needle one way or another. On the corona virus, the most risky behavior we have seen anywhere in the United States since this thing started. has been the protests no social distancing people gathered and mass total body contact people on top of another six seven eight people that are all the rules that we have been given broken. So if those do not result. In spikes, and if the states that we're seeing spikes in are not states that have seen massive amounts of protesting. And we don't see lots of people who protested suddenly testing positive for the corona virus. It would certainly indicate to me that all of the rules that we have been given about social distancing are irrelevant and unnecessary. which may be why the media's only reporting the areas of the United States that are saying spikes upward. Vice President Pence is pointing out that we have no second wave going on to the United States. It simply doesn't exist when the media's reporting spikes report, it's as simple as this. Imagine. We had baseball in the United States at imagine last night. The twins had four home runs. And the brewers and the cubs hit no home runs. And Baseball capons spike at home runs last night. No one team at a spike, a bunch other teams in at Addie. They actually listen to the radio station. HEARD IHEART US a podcast for those of you who have not been paying attention. You might have picked up that we get the message. There's a lot of podcasts out there. I've decided to share this with you. I mentioned a vice president. Pence is in which he's try. You know he's the point. Man President trump is appointed to oversee the whole corona virus response. He is trying to point out that all this coverage. That's out there well. There's a second wave of Kobe. No, there isn't. There's no number that says that there is none. That term fake, this literally is fake news further. It'd be a second way when you think of a wave. We all know what a wave is. I've bet in my on the ocean by share of times. I know what a way this. Catch your wave away. Teach boys that all the waves slugs in thing. When you think a surf bands, you really only think of the Surf Guitar. Dick, Dale, and all that then I think of Jan and dean. The Beach Boys, and that's about it nobody else. Leeann merged with any kind of a reputation out of that. If you solve. The wave that means is a big thing coming in its way higher than the other water. There is not an increase in corona virus going out in the United States. By any measure not by death, not by hospitalization and not by test. But we do know though is this we are doing way more testing. There are more being performed per day than there were before so the number of people being tested has increased that we know. Anyway the vice president has penned a column in The Wall Street Journal today in which he lays, obviously he and his status tap with this together, but the facts are very very important and I'm going to take a few moments to share it here. Again if you WanNa, find it Mike Pence today's wall. Street Journal he writes in recent days, the media has taken a cy take into sounding the alarm bells, a second wave of corona virus, infection, such panic over blowed thanks to the leadership of president, trump, and the courage and. Of the American, people are public health system is far stronger than it was four months ago and we are winning the fight against the invisible enemy when talk of an increase in cases dominates cable news coverage, more than half of states are actually seeing cases declined or remained stable. LINEAR checked. I. Want You all to start listening with a critical ear. If they tell you. Cases are going up in half the states. What do they say? They're not what happened the other? Half those statements mean the same thing. If you have four kids, and you report to your spouse. Two of them have already eaten. You are also saying two of them have not. Back to the collar. Anyway. People hear what they WANNA. Hear their low, my goodness. It's half the states are saying increase. Henry. What's going out of the other? Oh never taught about data. Back to the column. Every state, territory and major metropolitan area with the exception of. Have Positive test rates under ten percent. It every metro area in the country, other than three, the number of people testing positives less than ten percent of those being tested. And remember if you're not being tested. Very very likely your data because you likely are not showing symptoms back to the peace. In the six states that have reached more than one thousand new cases, a day increased testing has allowed public health officials to identify most of the outbreaks in particular settings, prisons, nursing homes and meat, packing facilities, and contain them lost in the coverage is the fact that today less than six percent of Americans tested each week are found to have the virus cases have stabilized over the past two weeks with the daily average case rate across the US, dropping to twenty thousand down from thirty, thousand in April and twenty five thousand bay. How many people know that? In April, the average new case day was thirty, thousand in May. Was Twenty five thousand here in June, it's Wadi. This is national now. Not Those state numbers was giving you with. That seems to be showing us is. A gradual slow, but steady decline, this is me not pence column back to the peace, and in the past five days deaths are down to a fewer than seven hundred fifty day, a dramatic decline from twenty five hundred day a a day a few weeks ago and a far cry from the five thousand a day that some were predicting member all those five thousand per day. We're down to seven fifty. Again this is not pence. The so-called experts were Rog. I believe this is me now. A not pants I wanna make clear what I'm not quoting the vice president's piece. I believe the virus is weakening at a lot of other doctors. That I've seen talking on TV. Have said the same thing. It would explain why. The death rate is dropping faster than the case rate. Paulo the point. There's a decline in case is true, but the death rate is declining faster now. Maybe it's also because they're figuring out which drugs to use, which treatments do which protocols to have and so odd at. It may also be that we're catching people earlier because there's more testing going God. I don't know. But it's clear trend that s cases declined at cloudy faster. Back to pensions column. The truth is that we've made great progress over the past four months, and it's a testament to the leadership of president. Trump trump made pens. Put that in the peace. Over there. What, Hey, pence one more light about me. Put that in there. When the president asked me to chair, the White House Corona virus task at the end of February he directed us to pursue not only a whole of government approach, but a whole of America approach the president brought together major commercial labs to expand our testing capacity manufacturers to produce much needed medical equipment and major pharmaceutical companies to begin research on new medical in Madison, said back seeds, he rallied the American people to embrace social distancing guidelines of the progress. You've made his remarkable. We've expanded testing across the board at the end of February between Centers for Disease Control and prevention labs and state public health facilities. The US had performed. Eight thousand corona virus tests now again. Let me slow down the end of February. Eight thousand tests per week. All told all types of labs. As of this week we are performing roughly five hundred thousand tests a day. From eight thousand to five, hundred, thousand, a day, and more than twenty three million tests have been performed total. We've also vastly expanded a supplies of crucial medical equipment in March. There were genuine fears that hospitals in our hotspots would run out of personal protective equipment like N., ninety five mask gloves, or even worse ventilators for patients battling respiratory failure, the strategic national stockpile hadn't been refilled since the H One n one influenza outbreak in two thousand, nine hundred, only had ten thousand ventilators on hand, since then we've increased the supply of personal protective equipment by the billions, our administration launch project Airbridge, a partnership between the federal government and private companies that as of June, twelve take conducted more. More than two hundred flights from overseas to deliver more than one, hundred, forty, three, million and ninety five mass of the good ones, five, hundred, Ninety, eight, million, surgical, and procedural mass, twenty billion I- facials, shields, two hundred, sixty, five million gowns, and coveralls and fourteen billion gloves. In addition, we've worked with the private sector to vamp up ramp ventilator protect production today. We've have more than thirty thousand ventilators in the teaching national stockpile, and we're well on our way to building one hundred thousand ventilators in one hundred days no American, who required a ventilator was ever denied what? We've also made great progress in developing therapeutic vaccine last month, the pharmaceutical company Gilead Sciences announced it would donate about nine hundred forty thousand vials of its new drug remm disappear the one against to treat more than one hundred twenty thousand patients in the United States under operation worked speed. The federal government is also funding research into multiple vaccine candidates, and we are well on our way to having a viable vaccine the fall. That's newsworthy. It's the first I've seen the administration say they think we can happen by the fall everything we had had prior to. This was a year now. Maybe they won't. But if they do, there'll be no credit given to trump back to the column. But our greatest strength is the resilience of the American people. The set of the span damage the American people have stepped up and made great personal sacrifices to protect the health and safety of our nation, and it's because they are abrasive. Social distancing guidelines at all fifty states have begun to reopen to safe and responsible manner. The media has tried to scared the American people every step of the way and. And these grim predictions of a second way of are no different. The truth is whatever the media says are all of America approach has been a success. We've slowed the spread. We've cared for the most vulnerable. We've saved lives and recreated a solid foundation for whatever challenges we may face in the future. That's a cause for celebration. Not The media's fearmongering that color. Today's wall. Street Journal Vice President Mike Pence. There is no rise in corona virus infections. News at our own station, standing up for Milwukee. This is the mark belling late afternoon. Show on news. Talk Eleven thirty W I said. There is a rising virus infections in some places and a decline in others. I want to spend a couple of moments. Discussing the situation of an avenue falls under the backdrop of the entire. Ongoing situation with regard to the racial environment in the United States. All of this occurs under the backdrop of. One of the two major days of the year in which. We celebrate. Portions of African American history of the United States June team they as Friday. Just talking to somebody this morning. Who did not know what June T. They is? It's. An interesting day in that is extremely important to many African Americans and many white people have no idea what it is other than they hold it every year. It's the day that is treated as an extremely at virtually every major city in the United States June team days. Observances are huge. But they're almost entirely in. The African American community, and that is part of the problem mlk day. Which? And I people argue whether or not these days should become federal holidays or One of the problems actually with doing it is when you make it a federal holiday. You know what you do, you trivialize it. It, just becomes a three day weekend. If you make it a day of observance, but don't give everybody the opportunity to take the day off and goof off. It might actually carry real meeting. In fact June teens day is a proud day in American history, and it should be everybody's Day. Is Not a bad day. This is not a liberal day. This is not a radical African American Day. This is nothing of the nature. We are marking the celebration of the freeing and liberating. Saves. It's actually barking an unusual anniversary. The emancipation proclamation and I understand many Americans. Don't know this because we don't teach history in high school anymore. The emancipation proclamation was issued by President Lincoln during the civil war. However remembered out. This is civil war era at its the eighteen sixties. We didn't have twitter. We didn't have was Fox News. We didn't have CNN. For. Word Federal Action to get out. Even the civil war information itself. There was often a leg of weeks if you were sitting there in the middle of Samarra. That's being torn up by a battle. You probably don't even have a newspaper left at your could be. Nobody there was a vacuum of Eddie Information. and. That by freeing the slaves during the civil war, the original order was. Irrelevant. Think that went through. The South had seceded when Lincoln freed the slaves, the slave states had already left the union so the order. Did Not, have. LEGAL IMPACT! Given the fact that the confederacy was governing itself. The unification of the nation of the defeated South essentially. Is the thing that made the emancipation proclamation have the weight of law. Anyway June teeth day. Is the day that. The last slaves actually hurt. The last people that were still governed by union. Under slavery got the news of this, and there's been a lot of descriptions of it in normally with the pedia is rather unreliable source for information, but I think they describe it well, so I'm GonNa. Quote the WIKIPEDIA. Liquor pedia a description here. It commemorates June nineteenth of eighteen, sixty, five, eighteen, sixty five. The civil war ended. When Union General Gordon Granger. Read federal orders in Galveston Texas. That all previously enslaved people in Texas where free although the emancipation proclamation informally freed them almost two and a half years earlier, and the American civil war, had largely ended with the defeat of the confederacy and April Texas was the most was the most remote of the slave states, and with a low presence of union troops, so enforcement of the proclamation had been slow inconsistent in other words, the point being made here even though the war had ended a couple of months earlier. It took time for information to get out there and a lot of people in Texas still were hanging on other slaves. This was the day in which this word was officially read in Texas by a Union Generaux. The nation was being reunified. The Celtics lost the Union. General went down to Texas and read the proclamation saying this is the law of the land of Texas, so it is considered the day in which the communication was given to the last people still in enslavement in the United States that there was no longer legalized slavery thus celebrated as the day that story. Ended, you could pick any number of days to commemorate, but it's that day. And as long as we are talking about the liberation of the slaves. And as long as people are out there so willing to distort American history. We need to be clear here that the slaves did not liberate them Slough themselves. The slaves were petition slaves. They were denied all human rights. They could not vote. Their opinions did not matter for anything. They were literally enslaved. The slaves were liberated because the Republican president of the United States liberated them. and. The Union soldiers won the war with the confederacy. They've been books written. What if the Celtics won the civil war? No one knows how long slavery would have lasted, but what have lasted for a time. It may have been the inevitability of history that even if the confederacy had one in the confederate states remained a separate nation, and the United States was just the north. That eventually the southern states would have gotten rid of slavery. Who knows we don't know? It's hard to imagine that it could have survived to the present day, but it might have been a number of decades. We certainly know that one hundred years after slavery ended, racism was still Ligo in the south separate bathrooms, denial of voting rights yet to go to separate schools all of that stuff. Nonetheless, the end of slavery occurred. Because of the formation of the Republican Party of the determination have a republican president to be willing to engage in that civil war had to issue an order that freed the slaves. At one hundred years after the emancipation proclamation was issued one hundred years later. The Democrats are still trying to deny. Black people rights in the United, states. It was democratic members of the United States Senate that filibustered for weeks an attempt to stop the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act from being passed. and. It wasn't just a few of them. It was a lot of them. Those bills passed because Republican. Members of the Senate and House voted for them true. It was a democratic President Johnson. WHO SIGNED THEM INTO LAW? But the opposition was entirely from the Democratic Party at it was virtually unanimous from the. Party of the south, these are historical facts. Even decades after that and ex klansman from. West Virginia was named by the Democrats to be the leader. Their leader in the United States Senate Robert Byrd. The legacy is clear as to which party. Embraced Slavery, which one did not. For the first seventy years. Of the nineteen hundreds. No Democrat with no black Democrat was elected to the United States. Senate. The only one was a Republican Brooke of Massachusetts. You could go out and on throughout this as Republicans have been demonized as the slave party, and Democrats are somehow. Given! All of this credit by African Americans. For Civil Rights advances, when in fact they fought every step of the way, even to the point of death. I'm not going to argue that most black people are Democrats. What I am arguing that the long standing right up to twenty thirty years ago. Legacy of the Democratic Party was the party that embraced. The rights of states they have slaves, and then for one hundred years after that the rights of states deny equal access to schools back bathrooms, public accommodations, even voting to blacks. It's all the Democratic Party. So Republicans ought to celebrate you day because it was the day. That the last slaves in the United States finally got the word that they were frayed. By a Republican elected president of the United States in brand, new political party of informed only ten years later earlier, right here in the state of Wisconsin. It's history worth knowing. And today that I think all Americans should be proud of whether or not. We should make it a federal holiday as I say, there's this problem how many holidays you're going to have and secondly. I think even on Mlk. Day and I know it's certainly it. Sadly, it's happened with Memorial Day world as well. It's starting to suffer first day. We can go to the dells. End Up losing significance for it. I think sometimes as opposed to. Keeping it as a day and marking it strongly and observing it. As opposed to just the day, in which people trivial is and goof around. So. Let's move to. The menominee falls situation. Protests going on this afternoon into the evening, yesterday was one of Frank. These protests took it to my nominee falls. And there's been talk. It's very hard to tell which protests are gonNA show up at which place these things tend to be organized at the last moment, and some of the leaders tend not to tip their hands, but I have heard significant talk that they want to escalate this thing. Emma nominee falls. From the beginning. We have seen that there has been an agenda from all elements and Kifah, which is a radical white dominated group. To black lives matter. To just a lot of individual people who have said it doesn't make sense that we constantly have riots in our inner cities, and we only protest. In areas where black people live. They were preaching to the choir and be the downside of protesting and obviously the downside of rioting and looting destruction loss of property, sometimes, loss of life is occurring in our own areas. We need to take this message and take this fight and take this unpleasantness. Out to where our oppressors are, and you've heard this again and again and again, and initially, when they took this thing to the suburbs that were there were the marches up north shore. Okay those close to where the east side where the central city is in so out of that's where the majority of the protesters are, but again there was a sense of preaching to the choir. Sherwood's extremely whitefish bay kind of following the same direction in so odd. There have been a kemp's the hold other protests, but they have been largely very small the marches. The you know the vigil they held. It brookefield didn't have a lot of people. Talk of do it. At some other cities. They've tended to be small so I think that there's been this desire and from what I pick up. From Frank Nitty I will say about Frank's protests. Is that none of them have been involved in violence? They've been involved in lawbreaking. Press passing breaking traffic laws disruption disruption to the peace, and so on, but frank did. He is not conducting violent protests at least nothing that I have seed although he has conducted acting protests that can consist of a lot of lawbreaking so anyway. Frank is apparently and his cohorts are apparently determined to bring this stay to monopoly falls now here you have a monopoly falls where the average protests that you normally think of his fourteen kids. Manabe Falls High School, walking around Bitch, and about the Indian nickname. That's there no protesting suddenly they see the sort of thing that people who live in the city of Milwaukee, and who live in many major cities just accustomed to you as part of the daily routine. Loud noises disruption of traffic people walking around on property, some minimal amount of that Elizabeth. And so odd end it is clear to be that menominee falls does not know what to do. The Normal Response From guilty white liberals is. Let's give this support. And let's that anger and agitate people. The response often from hardliners is. They can protest. That's an American right, but if they violate the law, we're going to stop them. It is clear menominee falls does not want to enforce its laws. I can't even count the number of laws that I saw were being violated on the videos last night, and I would presume again tonight. You can't just drive and all lanes of traffic and block traffic for blocks end. You're not supposed to hog your horns, for no reasons again and again and again and again you're not supposed to be able to drive cars on sidewalks. You're not supposed to walk onto private property. They're all this stuff is being violet. Then you had this mess at the gas station. You could see this coming from a mile away. WHO's running a gas station at six o'clock at night? It's either going to be the older. or a kid forgotten inside a gas station at six at night. WHO's in there? A kid or the odor? There admit Abadi falls never seen anything like this and here comes all sorts of people and they're descending on the gas station. They locked the doors of the bathroom at the gas station. Immediately Jonathan Rostov who state assemblyman from the east side of Milwaukee is out there. Marching nominee falls says that this was a terrible active racism. It was likely at act by somebody who didn't know what else to do. You know we have had demonstrations. Gas stations burned to the ground in the Milwaukee area. It seems to be the number one target the Sherman Park Station. I suspect. Somebody just overreacted without any racial notion added. They didn't know what to deal with. It looks like all these people were descending on their station and they lacked the. If speedway gas station bathroom is like most bag. Gas gase should bathrooms that I'm seeing I. Don't think it's nowhere to want to go now I don't know if this is an indoor one outdoor one. But. Usually. Gas. They should bathrooms. That's like. You're at the point of death and not being able to hold it to go into some of those I mean. Responsible be within a gas station bathroom. There's always cried God out of there. You know what I mean for. Somebody's gotTa do the well I just watched. The show I watch. The show you that the south the money line. It was arc. Isn't that where I can't do a spoiler alert. Can I know hats well, so something happened a gas station bathroom. I don't think that this was a vile overt active racism. Anyway after it. Apparently, some people responded by just taking. This is out in public and. Somebody falls doesn't know what to do. A lot of people are making a big deal about the fact that the village president of somebody falls. The at Glasgow made a social media posted which he appeared to invite the protesters to come out. have an Omni falls though in fairness to Glasgow. He says that's not what he was no wait. There's no doubt that if you read what it was that, he said he saying he wants to have a lot of protests in. In Manama falls, he believes the comment however is being taken out of context that it wasn't like he was actually saying. Hey, come on out to menominee falls in protest, although there was not much of a time lapse between the posted made on social media, which was in response to someone else's comment, and the fact that the protests went on on there, but Glasgow's point is that he doesn't think the protests occurred because he invited protesters to come on out Manami falls. Some thoughts from me. If. You simply assume that. If you ignore the protests, there's they're gonNA. Go Away. You have not been paying attention to the protesters. The protesters in Milwaukee are not going away. So. Therefore, why would ignoring them caused them to go away? menominee falls what they might do is move, but they might do is decide that menominee falls has had enough Var March it around the gravity around and walk into the middle of the night that we're gonNA head south and go to Brookefield. They might decide to find their way to new Berlin. Who knows or they might return back to the city of Milwaukee where there is much more overt support. The problem with this notion and we seated in Milwaukee as well. I'm just saying we're going to let them do whatever they want. Is. You're essentially saying to your your own community. We're GONNA. Shove her out our own residents, but if a bunch of people from Milwaukee come in here. We're going to let them do whatever the hell they what? Monopoly falls is not. When there isn't a protest on going to allow six nominee falls residents to haunt their horns, eleven thirty at night or drive on the wrong side of the road or take a leak in somebody's yard. They're not going to do that. They're not even allowing the fourth of July fireworks to go I. There's going to be no July fourth parade in menominee falls. They called that off. But if you want to have a protest parade at both sides of the street with no permits, no nothing they're going to let them do it. If. We're going to have widespread embrace of protests it if on Friday June t day we're going to allow all sorts of people to ignore social distancing have begged parades and marches in this data the other thing you can't with any credibility, turn around and send out the goon squad when you want to start enforcing all sorts of other orders. All you're doing is saying. You are frayed to enforce any rules with regard to protests. That's what you're saying. And if you are afraid, just come out and admit it. Now I do. We don't want to make matters worse. I the other hand what we have seen across the United States is. The less control, there is the worse things get. We have had very little violence here in the Greater Milwaukee area. Madison had a lot. Madison's violence was a direct result of the fact. That Madison Police stood down. It allowed to occur. I think the control. We saw Milwaukee as the Milwaukee police made it clear that there was a line that was going to be established, but Albany falls better figure out what it is, and they could decide that for themselves, but they better decide not in the middle of chaos. Decide how far you're going to let this go, and how and where you're going to step in and stop it. But to turn around and then. Push around harass old residents and ticket somebody because he didn't come to a complete stop before turning red on some abandoned intersection when you're allowing all sorts of other KS of others is Rog and people are very angry about it. was mentioning yesterday's program. Even have the view. What are the battleaxes there? Megan McCain saying she has never seen people in the middle and right more angry than they are right now about all this lecturing and colored social, distancing this that and the other thing that suddenly a protest Zodda all the rules that God. We! Have People in this. Country and Manabi falls it Brookefield in Berlin and a lot of other places that are being told that there are still all sorts of things that they can't do in their attire summers being taken away from little weenies canceling county fairs, all that's unsafe, and then you would simply allow organized chaos to go out of your community, and again I am not telling them. That they ought to shut this down I. think that the protests have largely been peaceful, but when vas are being violated. If you're not going to enforce those laws, you look like a bunch of suckers. You could enforce the law and still allow a protest to go on. This a happy medium to be drawn there. And the nature of these things has been in Milwaukee and elsewhere when there's zero pushback. That's when problem occurs. And if you're gonNA wonder why somebody locks there. They probably locked. The bathroom bore because they didn't see any control from the police in order to protect them. To automatically assume that it is a vile racist act as opposed to somebody on what what what it is that the supposed to do and fearing that somebody might cause damage to their property. Just again, trying to create racial tension. and. When you see from the east side like Jonathan Rostov having you take their protests manabe falls. Ask him how he'd like. If a bunch of right when you're monopoly falls decided to go scream at him at two o'clock in the morning and the east side in favor of re electing Donald. Trump, how would that go over? Does anyone think for a moment that if there was some large conservative disruption piece in violation of ninety seven municipal ordinances, liberal area that all the rules wouldn't be incredibly deferent-? Talk Eleven thirty W I S. Mark belling. Late afternoon show we still getting people with theories to Billy Joel. Favorite is I saw the movie I know what? The the booby doesn't necessarily explained the. They may have. That, so that's the song had to be so if they make another movie this year and they decide that he did it because he doesn't like Donald. Trump does that what? What Bobbie gentry had it her Anyway the The EMMETT till theories, the most interesting. There's a very good chance that. She never decided herself what it was that she was just creating an interesting side setting all of those scenes and describing a compelling story. If there actually was something in the you know the the whether it's not an actual event. This is something concocted by a writer so therefore. It's the same thing like Tony. Soprano, Diana Sopranos. Answer is it's not real, so the answer is he neither did nor did not, and whatever was in the mind of the creator of the show David Chase given the fact that he didn't answer. The question means that we don't know. What do you mean it's not the Edmund Fitzgerald? Well, that is a real event. You say assign that I. Think is one of the most obnoxious songs of all time, but as you know, I don't like story saw. My problem with Gordon Lightfoot is. Other, than that highly saw, what was it every day? Highway or someday? Highway carefree highway that woods all right all the others just kind of drone to be how? What are the problems that one has? If what is a conservative as I've explained many times? How many times have you heard me on this show? TRY TO EXAGGERATE SOMETHING LIBERALS then. You find out that they've already actually done the thing that you're exaggerating. Today is June seventeenth. On the website of the y'all the with the idea is right used to be a newspaper announced. The website is a Perry. It's a satirical website that makes fun of events of the day. By One of the most famous was. They did headline after nine eleven where? They describe instantly after the plane at the building the terrorist shocked to find themselves in Hell. kind the thing that the onions that the does the onion ran a headline. On June twelve. About quaker oats replacing Antibi-. In other words, the latest bout of political correctness said racial correctness in America to avoid appearing races quaker oats decided that they were going to get rid of Ancho Bible that appeared on the five days ago. Today, quaker oats announced they are getting rid of anti. You'd be going parody to reality and only five days. Also, a separate company is announcing that they are going to change the way. They present uncle Ben's rice now if you look in Tobia. is on the pancake boxes. She's a large African American woman. In for the longest, they had like a white thing on her head. And so what Ed? You could argue that it was character like the band that I see I used to buy the okay bed. Rice it. It's a distinguished looking African American mayor. That's I'm there I wasn't the world is possibly racist about it. It doesn't seem to be any more racist than anything that you would use the use of white person as a symbol. Uncle Ben doesn't seem to be anymore. Derogatory towards blacks than Betty. Crocker is toward whites. Fake characters that are put there on the nave of a product as for the by the as to whether or not, this is racial caricature or not, it begs the question whether or not there are African American women who looked like aunt Jemima. Know, the name itself largely doesn't much exist anymore I. Don't know of many black women that have the name Jemima, and the character might evoke images of a plantation servant. Or might just divulge images of. Your aunt, who made breakfast for you? The you. Arresting though is at I would not have known this. Apparently, anti is a popular brand in the African American community, black people, apparently a lot of aunt. Jemima pancakes well if it was racist, why would people be buying it? If black people felt it was offensive. You wouldn't think they'd be. Supporters of the Brad. We're getting to the point now in which I think. We're going to dealing with black people in the same way that we have decided to deal with everything pertaining to native Americans. Every representation seems to be enough itself rightist. I would think. If. We're just going to decide that. We're going to take all black faces off of consumer products that that would be an active racism rather than the other way around. But the work of pelling point is. You can't even predict where we're GONNA be in five days. When you're seeing people being fired for saying all lives matter at the number of things that people have gotten fired just over the last several days, a newspaper rides a headline that says buildings better to fired fired fired fired. You can't even imagine what the next thing is. That's going to be deemed to be terribly racist. Politics Washy Redskins have established that they're Purba. I will tell you this. If ever GONNA. Foale. That would be right now. We'd have to change the discussion a little bit, but if if you wanted to make that second. Push right now and say that if we'RE GONNA End Racism, let's do it for all groups particular. This would be the vulnerable time I mean. You could keep got goodell genuine. Take a knees himself and apologize create this latest thing now, which during the game players are going to be allowed protest after each play. Do. They think there's going to be a backlash from the American public over this. Guy runs nine yards instead of signaling first Saudi starts in Dayton, genuflecting taking knees and doing gestures. The commissioner says we're going to embrace this. This is a listening your employees and not here customers. Do you know the only time it makes sense to listen to your employees at night your customers. When the bosses listening to me! Well there's truth to that. We don't want the audience that tell us how to run the radio station, do we? It's. Six, Oh, five newstalk eleven thirty W I said. Curve Sound Mark La afternoon show, so you're falling apart in there I already know about falling apart. I have right now a headache. My head a toothache on the right side. I. Try to figure out if we'd be better off I. would have both of the same side so I could go home and I could put the ice pack out and cover both things. What am I gonNA, do put one thing ice on the head of the left side, and then put the other one over on the mouth on the other side. For crying out loud. Does make you wonder how before we had medication and all of this stuff. How the cavemen act while they didn't survive the keeled crazy right? You went in and we can tell. Can we tell people what happened to you or not? You want me to. Well, he had like a headache or something, and they went in, and they did a cat scan, and they didn't find anything. Paul was happy about that, but I understand from doctors that they literally they did the scan, and they looked inside and they found nothing. Paul there's nothing that's good. No Paul, you don't understand. Brain. There's just gets. To be. To be completely emptying their explains your problem. I mean we didn't loop the joints. Whatever maybe you're right, official intelligence in early form of artificial intelligence. They didn't refined it. He's. He doesn't know what it's. What's wrong with it, but? I you've never gotten headaches getting them forever and ever and ever ever and ever and ever You want me to give you tell you what's going to happen from here on out. Everything will get worse. That's it everybody older than me tells you what? Got Worse. Yeah well, OKAY FIDE! You're not in great shape that I'm on. That's why you're falling. I have some good news here for the audience. The first good news vice president pence is coming to the area Tuesday for a rally. You can find the details on president trump's website where they list the events. But what I can tell you is this. He's going to be here for the. It's part of the faith in America tour. I shouldn't call it a rally. That's the faith that America tour. The both the president, the vice president been doing this is going to be held at the ingalls side, hotel and P walkie. That's one of the. It's engulfed road. It's part of the hotel script that's out there. I'm not familiar with which hotel that is, but if you know the area, you'll know it. It's going to be. The doors could open ten thirty in the morning. This coming Tuesday the twenty third. The close by twelve thirty, so I'm guessing the rally will start or the bed. Call it A. It's probably the faith in America tour and the president originally had been scheduled to come to Wisconsin. Hosting one of those himself. I'm sure we're going to be seeing him a lot over the next several months, but both the president of the vice president and back open doing public events. Obviously you have the president with the big event in Tulsa on Saturday and Vice President Pence for those of you have an interest. Just go to the president's website to A. and. You'll find information on that. Well positives yet. They've been making a big deal about the fact that there's been a million ticket requests for the trump. I don't know if that's like somebody just an Oregon saying I wanNA have a ticket or you know I don't know what it means, but I do believe that he's going to have a tremendous. Turnout for this event I think as I've been saying just about and. It's not just conservatives in the given an opportunity to do something going out and doing things, it also explains the size of these rallies with regard to the. Police take this wolf thing everybody supposedly being terrified of the viruses, meth. Anybody that's holding. Anything is getting a crowd right now. Let's move out of this story. There was this ruling earlier in the week from the United. States Supreme Court essentially saying. that. American employment discrimination, another discrimination cannot be based. On sexual preference or orientation and many are celebrating this as a tremendous decision. People who have a conservative ideology toward the Supreme Court and Justice believe it's a terrible decision. Because the law in the United States does not say you can't discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation, and because it doesn't say that. We have employment discrimination and civil rights laws that protect your rights on the basis of a number of rights race religion national origin, so what we have a disability they're all is gay. Rights is not. Itemized in the Constitution of the United States, and therefore some are arguing the supreme court should not have had said they existed. If we want to pass, legislation passed a constitutional amendment extending civil rights to Lgbtq that we should pass that rather than simply have the court. Make it up without regard to that. What was interesting is the two of the Conservatives joined the Liberals in voting to establish this right John, Roberts the chief justice often wanders off with the Liberals Neal Gorsuch also did. Neal Gorsuch is president trump's first appointment to the cord. The Wall Street Journal today editorialized. Pointing out that Gorsuch is history on the appellate court and in his time on the Supreme Court. Has Been to say clearly if it's not written in the law, it's not in the law. He said that consistently throughout his career, and then suddenly on this case he goes the other way. This has happened again and again and again with people who are pointed to high courts or elected to high courts in either the states or the United States. That when they get there, they tend to drift to the left, not all of them. Clarence Thomas has never drifted. A leader has drifted. There are cases where there has been a drift to the left never in the history of jurisprudence, has anyone been known to drift to the right? When the last time the lefties put somebody on the court, they turned out to be a right-winger. Now we don't know that this president with Neil Gorsuch, his record so far on the bench has been sterling. This is a rare case in which he did seem to vote with liberals to me of greater concern is Wisconsin. There has been more than one instance in the very short tenure of State Supreme Court justice. Brian Haggadah ord where he has voted with the liberal minority on the court, and the most recent was, he voted to upheld the Andrea Palm Tony Iverson lockdown odor. Again, it's too early to tell whether or not had got. dohrn was a fraud, running as a conservative was actually going to rule from the left. Where were unique things about those individual cases that just got him to think differently than the other conservatives. But it's happened more than once, and it's a very short tenure. Supreme Court justice, and the reason is concerned is as of August I. We lose Justice Kelly. If hagedorn, actually lefty Herat is a conservative, it means the liberals now have a majority of the court as of the first. Maybe these are simply exceptional cases involving haggard ordered. Maybe he just thinks any government. Officials would be able to do what they want. And therefore that doesn't get overturned. There are some conservatives to think that way. But it is a concern. As for the United States Supreme Court Roberts is still conservative most of the time, unfortunately, not all of the time. Neil gorsuch is tired. Track record indicates that he has a conservative legal mind. This particular ruling which some argued should we have gay rights or not? That's not the case is about the question is whether or not federal law says we have gay rights. If you believe that we should establish gay rights for Employment Discrimination, and so what we ought to pass a law that says that rather than have judges simply invent. Invent rights that are not written in the law for the same reason that if we are going to allow people to not go by what the law says, they can star taking away. Our Rights that are written in the law. If the law itself is to be ignored, six eighteen newstalk eleven thirty W. it's time for red traffic. I forty one northbound at watertown plank road crash cleanup continues along the media. If you see traffic problems. Call the Tri. City national. Bank your hometown bank, total traffic, tip, line, four and four nine. Get any word of anything in the nominee falls. They're having marches on the streets there on city streets. You probably wouldn't care about. Have you heard any traffic exceptions anything I HAVE NOT I. No, they said there's GonNa start at four, but the other thing about these rallies. The state had schedule off. It has no resemblance to the reality of the event. The organisers just because they're clever. Change these things on the spur of the moment. So what's going to happen and when is very hard? It's not like these things that are set in stone this. Is this thing going to happen here? And this one's GonNa. Happen there and sometimes they do switch up. We are expecting a large protests and Minami. Maybe it won't happen. This point Dodo but I have not personally picked up at anything and usually when there's something major blocking. A significant roadway, I can figure that out, but I don't see any signs of that right now. Yeah we! We don't have any information out at now, but again again you know sometimes. People say they're gonNA. Do things don't do something else and it's just. Hasn't been anything on any of the local newscasts TV newscasts so far although I mean. How long can they keep showing the same protests footage? Day and day might WanNa, go out and get some fresh, though let me work this in real quickly since we've been talking about the mixed messages being sent on social distancing in so odd, the word we are getting is that the organizers of the sturgis rally. Another south North Dakota gets nothing. It's always South Dakota that the major highly rally, which is the largest one annual live allergic, what in the world where bikers just go out to the Black Hills and fried from all over the country. It is odd, and they are expecting again at least two hundred thousand. Motorcycles, not if ever, there was a group that is not likely to be afraid of catching virus. It's going to be the average highly writer. What? Pulses it's limited as to what they're doing, but they say the event itself. will go out and they are still expecting about two hundred thousand. People. What did you say? We're hearing that there's that there is actually no protesting going on at the moment and again. I don't know if that means later or if it's not just I, honestly literally don't know it. Starts call the telling me what his plans I. Don't pass them. And as I say I think that the demonstrations frank is run his other than break it a few civil ordinances, which I think should be enforced. They have been that his group should be credited or that. They're not throwing rocks. They're not busted things up. There's yelling and screaming. It's often obnoxious, but they have been wild raucous peaceful. High actually very nice of a city for the next several days. Hopefully we'll keep it all peaceful I actually am I normally. Don't tell you I'm going to be opted mile but I'm going to be off tomorrow, but I'm GonNa mention because we have an interesting guests. Those Sheriff Clarke is going to be doing the program and I'm sure he'll have some interesting comments, not only on the racial perspectives. But also policing metality and the handling of a vessel. He feels to handle these types of demonstrations that again I I make it clear. He speaks for himself I. Speak for myself, but he is going to be guest hosting the program. Tomorrow again for the people who have asked we will be putting picks up on belling dot com nowhere else than at any other social media. For the Belmont stakes, it will not be an elaborately well produced they. It'll just have the information and it'll be short. are we've done? It are doing those things that I want to ask people to do outside their duties, Apollo. Put something together after I. Package it up, which would be? It'll be before Saturday hopefully by late afternoon. Tomorrow depending when we both get around to it again in my own horse Racing Action Governor Morris is not running in the Belmont stakes, he will also not run. The bluegrass in July got a little bit of a hiccup. It's minor I'm not gonNA. Go into it, but it's mitre, but we're hoping that he's going to be back to the races in a couple of months or so there's still a long season left by brand. Brand new two year old horse, bright devil rounds at Royal. Ascot tomorrow morning at nine o'clock he could watch race at NBC Sports Network Our Horse Spanish mission runs in a long race at last Ascott Friday at ninety. He might scratch and I'm not expecting a strong performance because he likes really firm Turpin it's been raining all week unleaded so now at bright devils, almost certain to run Spanish mission fifty fifty and finally in the. The race after the Belmont stakes on Saturday a horse I have named pillar mounted. Who's pretty good horse? 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Everybody should be able to figure out how to do that. That's it for me. To address this Tuesday for back. Then get any better. That's GonNa be done tomorrow. Imagined that I take a day off of the guerrilla to let on. Yeah you you schedule your stuff on your workdays. Just take a sick day. I'm the group that takes a vacation it can I if I do get if I go to the dentist. Can I end up retracting the vacation and declaring it to be a sick day? Oh absolutely. Because you've done that. You know how to work these scams around here. By.

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6-22-20 Crime surges as anarchy continues on streets.

The Mark Belling Show

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6-22-20 Crime surges as anarchy continues on streets.

"Good afternoon Milwaukee. This is the mark belling late after the show all. Talk Eleven thirty W I S. Over the weekend in Chicago. One hundred four people were shot. Fourteen dead! The good news is that's a rather low mortality road for gunshots I mean. They're all bad shots if they're all using. BB guns or whatever but one hundred four people were shot. The fourteen dead is a staggering number even for a city, the size of Chicago one hundred think about number one hundred four people. This country freaks out when three people get the corona virus. which virtually nobody dies from under the age of seventy, one hundred four people were shot fourteen fatally Chicago over the weekend and. A number of other large cities, generally the ones that have very high crime rates also reported really really really bad weekends. That statistic I gave you. That's a problem. That is a profound problem. What hundred four shot fourteen fatally. Yet you fide an activist anywhere at America who gives a crap. In order to save my job, which is becoming harder and harder to do if you've noticed? The number of people getting fired for putting the wrong word of the wrong place right now is just incredible. I DIDN'T WANNA? Use The word crap. I wanted to use a different word as you could imagine. Seriously find activists in this country. Who Cares about this? One hundred four shot fourteen fatally. Chicago alone. That's a bad week even by Chicago standards, but it's not totally beyond the norm of Chicago weekends especially in the Subir. They have murders in that city like crazy. One hundred four shot fourteen fatally. Just in Chicago. We have some bad weekends in Milwaukee as well. In Milwaukee, if somebody shot and they don't die. If it happens to the city, it often doesn't even make the newspaper newspaper. Hardly anything makes the newspaper anymore. There's nothing left in the newspaper. Even the online version less fatal shooting often barely makes it if at all. And many killings blips. In Chicago the only way these murders make the news. They're part of accumulative rundown. In other words, there are so many of them that you have to report all of the one hundred four shot fourteen fatally. This is an extreme problem. Yet you can't find activists on the left. Right middle up or down. Who Cares? and. There's nobody doing anything about it. Instead! The national push is to defend the police. Do you understand how asset I says. Clearly, there's a disconnect. Between the things that people are agitating about. The things. The media's reporting on. And things that are actually happening. There's an explanation for everything including this. We live in a world in which things could be explained. Including this? Of all of the causes of death that we have in American. Society death at the hands of police officer is way way way way down on the list. Their auto immune diseases that create that have more fatalities than death at the hands police officer. Wrongful death at the hands of the police officer is a fraction of those of death at the hands of a police officer. Dat. Murder. At the hands of a non police officer, that's a much higher number now that one moves up the totem pole on the cause of death list. And if you're an African American male under the age of forty, who lives in a big city. Death at the hands of a non police officer is. For the top of the list. Of Cause the death. Yet right now, the only type of death that we seem to be concerned about is death at the hands of police officer so much so that we decided to deal with tried to have fewer guests at the heads of a police officer by having fewer police officers. No logic tabby if that was the solution to that particular problem. We would also conclude. That the way to produce. Death at the hands of non police officers, but death at the hands of criminals have fewer criminals. But that's just me tried to extend the logic here. Are you ought to have fewer people shot killed by cops fewer cops. How about having fewer criminals? How `bout we know somebody's criminal act of up for a longer period of time, so they can't be. What are the people that chat for one hundred four people in Chicago just this weekend? Story looking at his. Chicago Sun Times. I don't know what they start the weekend. Know if they started on Thursday or Friday morning. What it starts hybrid and four. Shot. I want to let this. Kid Nothing by the way, think again. Right out of this country nothing. The reason nothing is taking. It is because things are happening too fast. Tucker Carlson went under the epic rant at his program Friday night, blasting the Republicans for not standing up. To the witch hunting, going on in America which people are losing their rights like crazy and people are having their careers destroyed being fired, simply for phrasing, a word wrongly or saying something that somebody doesn't like statues are being torn down. Of Heroes at nobody stands up and objects add. What are the reasons I think? Tucker goes a little bit too far here is there's a sense on the part of almost everyone of being overwhelmed. By the things that are happening right and left. You don't have time to objected this thing over here because something's happening over there, but in the meantime nobody objects to an actual problem one hundred four shot fourteen fatally Justin Chicago. Just what weekend? de-fund fund the police. As crime explodes out of Control. de-fund the police because we're mortified at the number of police shootings. Of Innocent? American individuals even though. There are very few cases that we have of that. I didn't say not. And I didn't say that the George Floyd shooting wasn't ride. And they didn't say that. The Atlanta shooting does it appear Ri-. What I did say as just came up with two for the entire month. Here tire past month. I should say floyd was in May. And our four Kane data one hundred and four shot Justice Chicago just this past weekend. If I'm diagnosed with lung cancer and I have a hangnail I'm not going to worry about the hangnail, which is not to say that a hangnail can't be important, which is not to say that we should not address wrongful police shootings. Idiots to say that it isn't the largest problem that we face. So as I said, there's an explanation for everything. Let's start with this. The problem of Violent crime in urban America, particularly in minority communities is not new. Interestingly. It often seems to go up and down. On the basis of how many police are in those communities? The more that are less violence there is. You track. The remarkable declined in murderer New York City. Between Nineteen seventy-five and say twenty fifteen at attracts almost directly with the increase. In police presence in New York City. There are demographic explanations as well. The more more people you have at a younger demographic, the likely other is to be violent crime, because this is who commits a significant portion of it, but still this is not a new problem. Police shooting innocent suspect is also not a new problem both had been around for a long time. The problem of non police shootings. Of innocent people as I say in terms of numbers pales in comparison to the number of shootings and murders by criminals. But both problems have been around for a long time yet. All of a sudden. In twenty twenty. We have decided to treat as a major American crisis at a jumping point jumping off point. For, demanding that we tear down statues of Teddy, Roosevelt by the way, you may not have heard that would teddy Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt. I swear this is you're a sculptor? These are bad times, so you've got. You've got a sculpture of anybody. It's likely to come down. I finally be able to get rid of that stupid orange thing at the end of Wisconsin Avenue just for letter. What claim that it owned a slave at some point? Somebody by believe in saw it out so I doubt. Pulses. He doesn't even think they don't know. What's my point. Hey statue there. This must must've owned a slave. That's here. That's why they put up statues those days. If you are the more slaves, you had the statues they gave you anyway. That shooting. Shooting by police of. Innocent suspects. has become the launching off point for all of these other things including ripping down statues all over the place. But the reaction to. Shootings of individuals by criminals. In urban centres all over America has been no reaction. Yet as I say by Eddie definition, the one is a far greater problem than the other. Let's imagine you're in the sixth grade. You remember who your sixth. Grade teacher was. Yes or no. Recent. Yes, they do that. Why did you take ten seconds to say yes, why? Miss Roach. She hated you. I I. I don't play that. Miss Roach in. What an unfortunate name for a teacher! Think of the names that the kids! I'm thinking of you know there's always people who end up marrying people with the wrong name, and you just shouldn't do it because of what it turns your name into a really bad one. I can think for her, but I can't say what it is because you can't say that. Miss Roach Well you were probably a little. Miss Roach was delivery claims. She's probably listening right now. Wanting to call in and say you wouldn't believe what a little slimy watch. You knew that she was Paul claimed. She's well I shouldn't say that. How do you know that? You. What because she's a teacher? You know that she's a lefty for. Like I say that's. It's not always right, but it's very good indicator. That teacher. A lefty say yes. You're going to be right most of the time. You will not be right all of the time Eddie. Sixth grade is a great in which. What's the big grade? You would think for like being. Sex Fifty six I thought six I thought sex. Let's acid. To comment? I don't know what bullies do these days. I Made I'd bullies these days. Bad things about you. When social media I mean when I was a kid. Just people hit each other and stuff I'd be. So I'm going to go back to the what I was a kid rather than the contemporary version of bullying. Suppose you had a kid. The sixth grade every day. Belted you on the way to school. The Kids Happened a lot happened to lock to older children. You know the the oldest child in the family because they don't have a big brother or big. beat up the littler kid. Longstanding issue in America. Get. Let's imagine rather than prolonging this analogy forever. Kill Your shoves every day because he could. Every school had two or three or four kids like that. Maybe you were one of those. Maybe that's why miss didn't like you you a bully. Now, let's imagine. One day a different kid you. Doesn't slug. It shoved him. The reaction that we are having in society is you go call it. Contact your parents, and they make a big stink demand that that kid who gets shoe shoved you one time. GETS EXPELLED FOR SCHOOL? Do anything at all about the bully. That's been hitting you every single day. In other words you did deal with a problem I'm not denying that I am not denying. That wrongful shooting by police can occur. What I am saying! Is that on the overall? Scale of problems that face America and particularly the overall scale of problems that affect Black America. The. Reaction we have had is been preposterously disproportionate and comes as our entire society, and as I say left dot. Just blaming liberals left right center up down media, non media ignores the chronic actual problems. Particularly those that exist. In Black America I'm tempted to say urban America bought. It's too much of a generalization. The problems in Latino America. Are Not always exactly the same as the problems in black America. But this problem in particular. Of Murder. Is Staggering in the black community in the United States. I. Don't have the exact number, so don't fact. Check the and say that I'm wrong, but I know that I'm in the rage. Roughly, four and five I think the numbers a little bit higher, but again I could be wrong, but roughly four and five. Again generally speaking over the last number of years. Of Murders of African Americans have been by other African Americans. Now obviously of these crimes are criminals killing other criminals. Are fueled by the drug prayed. Drug ripoffs et CETERA. Drug territory, and so on still by any standard. This is at an enormous problem with Hubbard. Four people. Get a shot at Chicago, even a city as big as Chicago. Just at one weekend and Fourteenth di- is an enormous problem. As, I say it's not one. That's caused a blip of a reaction on societies radar nothing. There may as well have been. People shot, and no murders Chicago over the weekend for all the reaction that this is going to get for all. Anything's going to do about it. Anybody's going to do about it. Yet, George Floyd in Minneapolis. And I'm sorry I. Don't remember the man's name in Atlanta. Two cases in a bud. One unless they're just some things about George. Floyd's case that we have not seen complete appears to be completely indefensible. The Atlanta case appears to be hard to defend. Although certainly more. Mitigating circumstances than George Floyd, but both clearly appear to beat non-justified shootings. and. They have produced a societal reaction in which. We're destroying our culture. Wiping out our history. Carrying out statues. Of Sates. A tear down a statue of Saint in California Saint. Paul said early, does it if he doesn't think they even know why, they just think that it's a statue to statue, white man must have put it up. White Band put it up. That had to be because he was a slave owner. While putting up statues at that appears to be the entirety of the logic that goes out of here. As I said. There's a reason for everything including this. Now, what are the reasons that I keep bending over backwards to include in this commentary? My acknowledgement that police shootings of innocent civilians is a problem. Is there are always people who are right now laying to try to distort your comments so that nobody could offer a point of view other than the one of. We have to do all of these things in society because racism is the result of is the cause of police shooting all these civilians that we have to address it now. If you go back to the George. Floyd shooting There was a significant lag. Between flights, white, being killed the video of it, emerging at anybody seeming to care. It was two to three days before the Radovan demonstrations in Minneapolis. Where at occurred. If people were so horrified. Why didn't they demonstrate? And then it was days after Minneapolis that all of a sudden it was. The Friday and Saturday of that week that you started to see the demonstration which turned into riots and violence all over the United States again, a significantly delayed reaction. That means. This was not spontaneous. After the Rodney King. Beating in Los Angeles. nonfatal. The riots in Los. Angeles occurred almost immediately. After the verdict in the trial. At after they particular verdict, there was I think a spontaneity and an anger at an outrage, justified or not over that. The fact that. The shootings have floyd shooting at Atlanta resulted in all of these other causes coming out of it defined the police. Tear down statues. Chain school curriculums. For All of that to happen so quickly, somebody things that seemed to be only tangentially related. People were planning to make a move to break up these issues. They just needed a spark to us as their excuse to break it up and I'm not suggesting. But. All of the people who actually demonstrated were insincere. But there was a weird coordination some of these things and very weird coalitions when you see bigalow. Very disorganized, there's probably as many different reasons to be in Bogalusa as there are members of Buffalo members of bigalow. A white at artistic pro gun organization. With. Fair about of lakes among some of their members to. The premises. Marching with African Americans. Calling for defunding of the police. That's a very motley coalition that you have a god their. The threat that they all seem to have in common was anarchy. We know that there are some extremely well funded. It is you know have this theory? I've thought out anytime that we don't have a spectrum in America. We have a circle. If you go far enough to the left, and you go far enough to the right, you bump into one another. At, were you bump into one another and the extreme far left in the extreme right is anarchy. There advocates on the firefight left anarchist on the firefighter. Right in the radiology tend to come together, and that's how you could below marching with. People protesting against. Violence against black by police, calling for defunding of the police anyway, many of these organizations on both the far right sometimes called alt-right when I say all right I. Don't mean the media's fire. Right I mean the fire Wacko right. Out there in clans out there and Nazi Ville. Out there and White Supremacist Phil. And there are also on the firefighter left. Many of them have the fingerprints of George Soros. These organizations have a lot of money and have a lot of operatives. It's how you could have people who live very good lifestyle, suddenly coordinating and putting on demonstrations all over the place. At very very sophisticated in the way that they do it. Again I'm not saying that. Most of the people marching and driving and cars were part of this. They went along for the ride, but these rides were organized. There was not spontaneous rage in America over George Floyd. There may have been anchor. But. The rate showed up on the streets days later, and resulted after several days of like looking for a slogan suddenly these very specific demands as I say all of which seemed very congential. But just in general a tangent. To the actual issue, police shootings. What for example. Do Statues in cities have to do with police brutality. What does the confederate flag have to do with police? I'm I'm not saying there is a connection. I'm saying it's quite off at a tangent. Even the defunding the police. I'm in favor of cutting funding for public schools. But even I can't claim. That if one teacher's caught molesting a child that that becomes the argument for defunding schools at a school district twenty six eighths away. If we are serious about dealing with the problems that ails we're getting, all these lectures people what we have to get serious about fixing these problems. Be Serious about fixing problems serious fixing these problems then. Let's show some actual evidence that we are even aware of the problems. Very, few would argue that there isn't an issue with regard. To the way police, some police sometimes treat some. Members of it already communities, or for that matter members of Eddie community. But as I, say you have. All across America in black communities, and especially in crime infested. Places like Chicago Fourteen people dying just one week at at one, hundred, four, being shot. That's a crisis. Look at the lay of the Land Urban America. None of the kids have gone to school since March. We. Don't know if they'll go back to school in the fall. Where they were going to school, they were falling far behind kids in. Predominantly white communities. The crime rate is terrible. We just marked father's day over the weekend. The fatherless fatherless ness right in Iraq is very bad right now, but especially terrible in the African American community. Those are just the starters of the problems that plagued Black Erica. I think almost all of us would be willing to make sacrifices attitudinal changes to address those problems if anybody was addressing those problems, but as I say nobody is. The people that are so mortified at horrified at the behavior of police. Are unbothered by be atrocious performance of the public schools that serve the same black communities. Whatever your problems are, and let's imagine you're someone who believed that the police just do a terrible job in minority communities. That the police in the city of Detroit, the police in the inner city of Washington. D. C. The police, said the inner city of. Place in the inner city of Chicago police in the city, I've been lucky. Let's say you're one of those who believe are terrible job. You sick. You certainly can't argue that. The schools at each of those communities don't do a job. That's at least as terrible. The reaction. What often gets when making that point? Is. You can't blame it on the schools. These kids come from very very dysfunctional families very poor. Learning environment learning gets unstressed at home very hard for the kids to study. Their homes are as we said dysfunctional etc. The arguments that you hear from defenders of urban public schools. But. You could say all of that with regard to the problems of crime. The police have to deal with. There are people at our society who have. A belief and anarchy. The biggest light of defense against anarchists is those who enforce the law. So if you believe in ad, arche you need to have as few people as possible to enforce the law. And they jumped on the situation with regard to these police shootings. The shove that. Is. There are people who hate America despite living in America. They hate this country. They hit our history. They hit our heritage. The greatest evidence of our history and heritage is statues. The history we teach. Our popular culture are symbols and so odd. Since. They hate our country. They WANNA. Get rid of all of those things because they think our country is horrible. Take down the statues, but shouldn't be. Our heritage were an awful place. Change the history. You're somehow making this. Appear to be a positive history. This is a rotten country. We have to tell the story the etcetera etcetera etcetera again they take these police shootings as an excuse to jump on this as I said almost entirely separate agenda. There are people who have had agendas here. Getting rid of the police because they're. Crashing America because they hate America. and. They have managed to create popular support. For these attacks of the police for these attacks are the heritage of our country and so odd. By somehow, and it's such incredible leap of logic, and they haven't even attempted to make logical. To claim that if you don't support defunding the police. And you! Don't support carried out all these statues and you don't support. Changing our history and you don't support. Trash, Jacob Barack away. That means you're a racist who believes in office shooting, innocent black people. They have managed the sub. How connected? And they've done this. With almost no one even trying to argue with them. No one trying to present the other side. No one trying to say our police. Well as an institution not perfect. Do it incredible job and urban of ACA? Just as no one wants to make the case that our nation's history while imperfect. Is the history of the greatest nation in the history of the world. You are hard pressed to find a problem at a nation. That has tried as hard as ours has to correct the injustices that we have. But as I say no one wants to make those arguments because people who are very well organized and had the ear of the media. Have managed to somehow connect. America's a terrible place. Therefore, we have two trash its history and appeared on all of statutes, and so on and. America's police are the entirety of the problem in urban America therefore we have to get rid of the police. All in response to to police shootings. And anyone who dares to offer the other point of view is immediately. Just give her the blanket allegation while you're a racist otherwise. Why would you be taking that point of view, so no one wants to make it. You have I think on the right right now. A combination of people being under siege with somebody shots coming in from so many directions that they end up paralyzed. The Cat respond the EPA them. and. Be The terror that if they do respond. They become a target themselves and their life is road. Let me. Give you an example. Examples are the best way to make points as you know. I, said this at the time. The reaction to the drew brees statement. This is fitting in exactly the what's going on here? Drew brees said something that was not in the sped offensive. Tens of millions of Americans agree with it. Yet. He was pummeled so hard almost instantaneously. And as he was being pummeled. He realized that there was no-one defending him. Know what? No what in the media? Nowadays Commissioner Dot steamboat or not his teammates. Nods Union. Know what. Using the analogy of the bullies. Back like you were a kid. The thing that stop bullies was just find a bigger kid to beat him up, or the bully could get in trouble from the authorities imagine if. The people around the school. Just let the bullies beat up the other kids. The bullies. Just keep beating up other kids, so there's better bullying going on. If anyone who has a dissenting point of view even though. Those dissenting points of view are often not people who are saying I. Defend Police. Officers shoot innocent African Americans no one to buy college. Credibly say that. They are questioning how we take that. In, somehow demand tear down the statue, a statue of Teddy Roosevelt. You make up the Taylor you can't make up the name of anybody who statue is being targeted for being tour doubt. I if vote tomorrow, they were out a statue of Martin Luther King. Would you actually be shocked? No, you can't well. He didn't fight. Who knows what the excuse would be? If. The person is identified with America. They want to tear it down. And a nation of three hundred million Americans. Most of whom? Until a few weeks ago used to think that our country's a pretty cool place. Stead utterly silent at allow it to happen. The political class nothing other than Donald Trump. seriously. Other the Donald Trump find any politician who's standing objecting this? No Tucker Carlson's point is. We Don. T Republicans for much other than to kind of Stop Democrats. We have very low expectation for most Republicans. We just want them to at times like this when people are being fired for putting a word of the wrong place. When people are having their character assassinated, like drew brees, saying you should stand for the AD. When people are getting fired from regular old jobs that I have some stories to share here. You'd like to think that. Maybe then some Republican would raise their voice on behalf of majority would agree with them, but we can't get them to do that. As I say I think part of back Back Carlsson's comments. I don't fully agree with because there. Is this sense right now of being overwhelmed add? Any Republican who does dare descent. Becomes an enormous target themselves. and has no one to defend them. It's still true. Were this argument about. Is Racism acceptable. I don't hear anyone arguing. We should be racist, or if this argument about should police be able to kill innocent civilians. I hear. Nobody say that that would be one thing. This is a country that's two hundred and fifty years old nearly. And through almost all of those two hundred and fifty nearly years. We have defended our common heritage and it just a few months. Eight is under siege at attack. To believe that everybody at America suddenly changed their mind and decided that this is at awfully rotten place. In many believe the presidential election will be a referendum on that. If trump wins, it's an indication that majority of Americans love their country of Biden Winston indication. The majority of Americans hate their country and WANNA turn it over to the radical Sylvian charge one week after the election. Biden Crooks resides. Some believe that it will come down to that. Maybe that's it, maybe it. Some actually think that it's dangerous for trump to try to make it a referendum in that regard that you have so much self loathing of America going on right now off the argument is is country a rotten place that we have to change? Everything abounded that the people who say yes would actually win. Don't know we don't even know how bad it is, but that's part of where I WANNA go with this move forward. What, if I keep telling you the last few days? Do I keep telling you. Oh, now what do I keep telling you to the point that it's like the way I say it every other word, just because you don't see something or hear. Something doesn't mean that it doesn't happen isn't happening then it. Does it exist just because you don't see? Something doesn't mean it doesn't exist just because you don't hear anybody objecting to the witch hunting going on just because you don't hear anybody defending our nation doesn't mean that everybody has turned against their country. What it does mean is the cat has all of their tongues? That anyway. Says Cat at your tug be? No kidding doesn't seem talk about not. It doesn't seem to make any sense. All my years of seeing cats I. Don't think I've ever seen what grab anybody's hug. Have you. What I well why a cat and why the tug? You've ever seen a cat. Grab somebody's tug, no avenue either. It's three four five at news. Talk Eleven thirty wins said. It's time for Revenue Traffic Forty three ninety four northbound at Oklahoma crash blocks the left lane backups now stretching back to Oklahoma avenue in fact almost stretching back to the plainfield curve now to get from Layton to downtown thirteen minutes, and it's worse on the southbound side with everybody looking over the median wallet, all that activity will find the delays coming from the High Rise Bridge. Down Oklahoma one minutes. The gatekeepers are taking more time to the people actually wending through the actual incident. This is true. This is what job why it's claiming CI. Pay attention to John. Wyatt Fall even what the hell you're talking about. Were you paying any attention? No by asked Paul where. This, he would have no idea so he's not driving right now so I, don't think. Would you say Paul? You're looking at a computer because you have to do more than one thing at once not well, but I can do it. That whole multitasking remember we've talked about this. A psychological study that I I read a the show like twenty years ago and I. Quote it every now, and then it claims a human brain cannot think about more than one thing at a time, but we can flick back and forth a zillion times, even in the course of a second, but we can only hold. There can only be one actual thought at a time, but we can whip saw back and forth instantaneously. That's at least the theory of at least one neurological expert or From Las Paul. How do you sing and play the guitar? Say I always think the hardest thing is when you're a drummer. How do you keep beat to two different rhythms at the same time? I don't how do you do that? How do you do that? How do I just? It's the old thing about what you try to get somebody to rub their stomach and pat their head at the same time. Many people can't do it. Including me, I ended up like padding may just hard do. John Wyatt's wondering why he can't get finishes traffic, but you're getting a lot of attention here for this thing that I actually remembered. He's going on and forty-three ninety-four between Oklahoma and the plainfield curve at it's on the northbound side of the freeway. See I unlike Paul pay attention. Where were you got any other traffic to share no MATT's up from the Lynch. You told me a few weeks ago. That you've got something that tracks volume on the traffic and crutches going up a few percent every week ever since the heart of the lockdown. You still follow that or not yes, yeah, what I've noticed is day. Traffic seems to be almost what it's always been in the past there is it if you hire you say but yeah I. Guess That's what I noticed, but the rush hour's. There's just no, there's because nobody's. Sony working so they all. Working but so many people aren't going downtown. You know people aren't going to those offices so that Dr, Paul Empty Yeah that drives so much of what the commute is and without without that. And a lot of other places, obviously where people aren't going into into work then. Yeah, we just don't have regular kind of times of the day because they're still doing things just. Because they're not at work. They're driving it. Yes, we don't. We don't have like a regimented time. When people are driving the way a commute normally does it's everybody just doing errands and shopping, and all that good. Still overall driving's probably doubt it just. Yes, because there's fewer things to I, know mine is just because there's way less for me to do other than go back and forth to work I mean. I would be doing. Other things were the ready of those things where there any of those things to do? There just aren't that many there aren't there. Aren't that many things to do I if you're not into automobile racing? Well actually. What else could you go to? Tie Racing's pretty much resumed at some of the local tracks Yup like Nascar and the others are running with either limited fans. There's limited telling. Five thousand people in in a place that hold one, hundred, seventy, thousand, five, thousand more that get to. Go see Major League baseball so. There's that trump had six thousand people rallied a place of one thousand nine hundred did. What do you think the explanation for that was? Do you think that that was the lefties hijacking by doing all the reservations or it was people that were freaked out by the protests that did wanna come, or what do you think? Yeah? My guess is a little of both. I'm guessing a lot of it though was. They just didn't want to get caught up in something that they didn't want to have a massive overflow crowd outside in those people who couldn't. Couldn't get tickets so that tell ya I did not know, but they didn't have tickets, so they didn't get admitted because they wanted to have control that they had they as there were. A million people are requested tickets, but only six thousand who actually showed up and the trump people don't want to admit this because it implies somebody got the better of him, but I think that lefty hackers just went out and request that all the tickets. That's what happened did. I'm sure that's a big chunk of Paul said OAC orchestrated well I. See didn't organize anything unless I have is now. A Oh see. And even that. The she's. Initials at least actually let's just screw that. Let's just say it wrong. Let's just say just. They drive her crazy. Always you could call it a Seattle caller. Id. What do you want to call her? Be Nothing. I can put on the radio. Yeah PREFER DOOR TULSA rally this. She said she's the only one over there. That has any charisma dot botch, but she has a little charisma, but that was. He was going to give her. You should have gone to rally Paul Thirteen thousand empty seats. That's normal. Nothing will be crowded any more apparent. At least they okay. Well, that's it. Automobile racing was trump. What else can you go to? Bars. But I mean yeah I mean of like an event. Like, no concerts that I'm you know no concert old concerts I. Don't think there's any gerbils even during to go to. It's not that they're just not coming to Milwaukee. They're just. Nobody's out there. Yeah, but I mean no not an organized thing. I've either squared some cody. Fares are still on, but none have been held yet. They're all the ones. They're all still scheduled for the future. I don't I'm not I had not heard of any of the local churches having a festival so far this. The as I. Say, there's just. Other than at restaurants, some of which are still closed, but other the, but those things said those aren't event, said. I know you're talking a future though I. Mean I need something that's happened so far. The things that are in the future, we don't off the call them off. several county fairs have voted now to to hold their events including some big leads pack as a big one just off the facts value little bit to the north west of the Fox valley. That's on this a few a few others that are on for certain, but they haven't happened yet, but of actual things to go to. Slinger at a few of the other car tracks in Wisconsin are open. The that's it. There was Gulf over the weekend. Did they let anybody show up for that? No, no! Gulf. Why can't they limit that? Thousand. That's. A few hundred a whole right, I was thinking the same thing. Why can't they have? If auto racing can have? Nearly eight thousand yards feet yards yards. There's plenty of spat. One hundred yards. Some of these places don't want to deal with figuring it out. Pulses. You're allowed to go for yourself. The Gulf is in the caddies and the and the tour officials are there. Why can't they let five thousand in for that? Because you're right? They have to figure out who the five thousand would. Grab up all the tickets you here there's what was it one hundred thirty some pages for the NBA on how to deal with this thing, so I'm guessing if it was up to the PGA tour, you know how they have rules. If the fans were invited, there would be a five hundred page document. There's nothing more than golf golfers and golf ads run by. Gulf is that's the sport where people were would watch and see you fractured on TV. Call Up, and they penalize the guy the next day. Adl as a sport could possibly be, and you literally get literally encouraging tattle tailing, so they'd be calling about everybody in the stands. Who Wasn't wearing a mask? have going to golf tone and having to wear a mask outdoors. I mean that's the other part of this. This Las Vegas is now. They had this thing where they were gonNA. Encourage masks in the casinos, but not required them. Well. Of course, nobody was wearing one because the people. I tried to tell borrowed. Is it everybody else? The people who are afraid to come in are not going to come in because you have masks, the people want to come in. Are The people who are saying screw all of this so? What happened was nobody was very masked. So as you might guess because nobody was marrying nasty now at table games, not the slots, but at the table games they're requiring people to wear masks because nobody was wearing masks when they were requesting voluntarily to do it, and that's just to result in fewer people coming by requiring it to play wear masks. The table is it's not good being the people who are afraid to come in because they're not coming in anyway. It's the same point that I made on. The Circus got rid of the edibles. You're not. Not going to make the the animal rights crowd happy. They're not suddenly going to come to the circus. You're just GONNA frosted rebating circus fans who likes the edibles? That's the whole problem with any of these things. If there's an event that wants to restart I'm telling you the best way to do it as we don't have any game rules at all, you'll have more more people. Come in and my putting in place all these rules because the people that are afraid for safety purposes. They're not gonNA come no matter how many rules you put head. They just. The ones that are going to hide their base with Joe Biden for the next year and a half. All right. John, Wyatt that was the longest you've ever, but I'd. Like eleven thirty W S Edmark. Gulling late afternoon show vice president pence is in Waukesha county tomorrow for several appearances, including the one that is open to the public at a hotel and golf road. If you walk, you can find information on the trump campaign's website. This theory is being thrown out that the lefties have succeeded in taking away one of the weapons that trump has the incredible popularity of these rallies so odd that. By suggesting that there might be protesters that trump supporters are afraid to show up now again. We don't know if that's what happened at Tulsa over the weekend. My theory is at trump. Does Awadh admitted that the left? He's just reserved. All the tickets are reserved a huge chunk of the tickets, which is why you at all of these people that were left out that were outside the overflow outside largely dispersed. When they were being chatted at by. The anti-trump people who are out there on the street at the same dive. Indeed I think most trump supporters are law abiding citizens who believe in law and order and the last thing that they want to be in the middle of. Is Anything, that's Eddie amount of trouble though I don't know if there's going to be any protesters out there were Penn state's tomorrow, but if you want an opportunity to see the vice president again. The details of it put out there if the lefties have determined though. That all day after due to kill off. These trump rallies as we go into. The presidential campaign is just to. Make reservations for the seats threaten to throw up and save yellen. Scream you. Trump supporters when you go ahead. It would be another indication that some of the tactics that they're using despicable though they are. Are Working. And are affected. The defense that I've offered. To the people who haven't offered much of a reaction, really at all. To any of this stuff is. There so much incoming coming that it's hard to defend anyone thing because you're doing that. Nineteen other assaults are going God. And I've offered that of some Republicans for that matter just about everybody else and also. The fact that if you do try to speak up, you become a target yourself. At are faced with potential. Ruin Yourself. Look at for example, the handful of Republican elected officials really anywhere in the country. WHO said anything? They end up with protesters at their home character assassination anything. Whether you say it. Correctly or clumsily or whatever doesn't seem to matter. I mean they may as well put up tour guides to get Robin Vases. House out there and we're seeing pouty that every time that the protests gone after his place. The same thing happened in Albany falls. Couple of elected officials spoke up. Not In a way the past muster. With the thought, police and protesters at their homes. Turn dot even by fellow members of their village board. So again. I understand why people don't want to speak up and don't want to react as so much of this. Reaction is going on that as I say had nothing to do with the original issue of police, brutality or shooting of. Innocent civilians. It does become a good occasion though the quote and I paraphrased this quote. A few weeks ago on the show and I said I didn't remember exactly who it was. It said will I. I tracked down. Because I. Want to read it because I don't think there's been any place in American history where it's been more relevant. That right now. It's Martin Niemoeller who was a German Lutheran Pastor. Adams was referring in the environment. Jeopardy. Here's the code. They came first for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews. And I didn't speak up. Because I was at a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists. And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics. And I didn't speak up. Because I was a protestant. Then they came for me. And by that time. No one was left to speak up. That quote. From decades ago. Unbelievably relevant. Today. One of the first victims. Of the wave of political correctness that was sweeping through still remember we did the story of the program. The broadcast for the Seattle the Sacramento Kings basketball team. Thirty two year broadcast grabbed Apr.. tweeted to a farmer, NBA player or do an NBA player. All lives matter didn't say black lives. Matter is asked. What do you think black lives matter? He said all lives matter fired. When no one peeped in defensive napier nobody. None of us fellow broadcast as no players though writers and Sacramento nobody. It was an indication that anybody that was targeted was going to go down. So the silence of everyone makes everyone a potential. Target and therefore potential victim. But likewise the reason no one wants to speak up is because they want to stay out of the crosshairs themselves. By a minority. But a minority that plays by different rules in the rest. A minority that has been very successful in getting its way at a minority. That has as its enforcers. A media that has decided not only to take sides. But to unfairly take sides. Eleven, thirty Wfan said Mark belling late afternoon show alluded to that Tucker Carlson quote on his program on Fox, which is without a doubt right? All the most talked-about program on cable television is he has been by far. The most aggressive critic. Of the political witch hunting that is going on in America. By far the strongest critic of Republicans for that matter other conservatives. who have not fought back. Against not only black lives matter, but those people that are trying to take away the freedom of people to speak. As I said I don't entirely I. Don't agree with all of Carlson's points I don't. Because I think we are at a situation here in which. It is very hard for most Americans in even for most Republicans to know how to respond when you have tax going out in so many different directions. How can you stop them? From for example ripping out the June, Pero Sarah Statue at the California state capital when you trying to save the Teddy Roosevelt statue in New York and eighty seven. Thousand of them are going down across the south. Select on, and that's just the issue of statues much less. All the people that are being fired nonetheless I wanNA share with you. This is from Tucker Carlson Program on Fox on Friday night. Referring to the leftist, which he called their reign of terror right now. There was no opposition to their power grab. The other side surrounded on day one with no fight. You don't vote for Republicans unless you like pointless foreign wars and sucking up two bags, you vote for Republicans to protect you from this, but when the moment of crisis came, Republican leaders ran away. Citizens were beaten and murdered. Many Americans were fired abruptly in the middle of a severe recession for nothing for saying the wrong thing looking the wrong way liking the wrong tweet. Where are our protectors? They didn't lift a finger to help their voters and donors. Congressional Republicans blamed the COPS. Not The rioters ordinary Americans came under attack for the color of their skin. And no Republicans came to defend them. The message unfortunately could not be clearer. Voting is for fools voting desert work, but when you riot burn things that hurt People Republicans. Give you what you what? Rioting works. That's the message they are sending. If. Citizens Wearing Obama hats were physically assaulted. Imagine if tech but up monopoly censored Obama's supporters or Obama himself. How would Obama have responded? By tweeting angry things! By effectively apologizing to the BOB. It's hard to imagine Obama complaining that as president. He didn't have the power to stop physical violence or preserve the integrity of an election or to protect free speech or history within ten minutes the Obama. Justice Department would have indicted every single person involved on federal conspiracy and civil rights charges. The Republicans are too weak to face the BOB. They offer trinkets and hope the mob goes away. It is time to find new leaders. Taqwa Carlson followed that up with following tweet. Most Americans assume they never lived to see a moment like this. It happened. It is still happening now. Where Republican leaders and we need them the most. I don't as I said entirely agree with that. There's a sense on the part of almost everyone that they are under siege and this happening fast ad. Anybody who dares stand up to defend simply gets taken out themselves for daring to do whatever it is that you go out there fed. In addition to that. It's not the role really of every single Republican politician to singlehandedly stop all of this. It's not like American. People are American. Commentators have stood up and daddy objecting themselves. I think what you have here and I made a comment before Eddie of this started. It was during Kobe which liberals are at their best during a crisis. That's when they're at their most effective when chaos going on. They go for as much power as Robin. You'll let it out years ago. Never let a good crisis. Go to waste. At. It's going to continue, and it's going to get worse until there's resistance, there has been no resistance. Why not tear it out. Every statute existed the United States. Nobody's defending any of them. Well, they let us know they let us Teddy Roosevelt. Let's take a ball down. Let's declare America moral. Let's throw ever Republican out and put in Democrats it again before I go to the break. That's again the flaw in Tyler Tucker Carlson's. Theory here to suggest that. This is all a result of Republican acquiescence. The Republicans are still the only line of defense that you have even if it's a week light of defense, if you turn this thing off into the Democrats have matched with the level of a cheap, but is going to be on the part of the left the I go onto the buses Joe, Biden. Katie bar the door. The things that have been achieved right now, but achieved through brute force, but when they have the ability to do it legitimately via law. It will undeniably be worse. and. Finally as I've explained my role, I perceive with regard to relieve public elected officials. Try to pressure them for the right because all the other pressure is from the left that has never been more than over the last several weeks. It was true to ride. Colby and it's been especially true now. All of the pressure is from the left to the point that people are literally fearing for their jobs. Nobody is shoving them back in the opposite direction, including not that many people in the individual citizenry they're afraid to, and they see what's happened to their friends and neighbors. Who have said the wrong thing. Standing up for a walk eight. This is the mark belling late afternoon. Show on news talk eleven thirty W I said. What do you have written down there? You things go onto log for beer. Bosses. What is the Statue of Liberty going to be one that they? One would assume. One would assume. Because right now as Take your most extreme example that you can imagine and predict that it's going to happen. You're going to be again. It's like the point that I bitterly about liberals and teachers. You're going to be right more often than Iraq. It's going to happen until it stops happening and it isn't going to stop happening on its own. It's good to stop happening because there is resistance and objection and opposition. Politically. It will stop happening when politicians try to stop. It are rewarded rather than punished sanctioned. But clearly right now other than Donald Trump. There are politicians that I can see. That are really trying to fight much at all. The Democrats believe that trump will be blamed for the chaos. That people want to restore COBB and they're hoping therefore the fighting mode of trump will backfire on him. Perhaps that will happen perhaps not. It's too early to tell. But I think what you have right now is really for the first time in Contemporary American. History I'm not going back to. I'll make put it this way my lifetime. These times. Actually remind me of based on my reading what it was probably like during the blacklist. Had, an a communist movement, developing in the United States that was small, but existed. You had essentially a glorified communist run for president of the United States in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight Henry Wallace get. Some number of votes. You had the fears raised by Joe McCarthy at others that the Communists had infiltrated the State Department. And the military that the military essentially was a haven for communists. Is Argument. There were many people who believe the communist infiltrated Hollywood and had total control of. The Hollywood industry. And there was a concerted cab. You'll find them. Wait them out and blacklist them and people who had communist beliefs. Essentially keep their mouth shut. People who had left wing beliefs are new. Communists had to keep their mouth shut. I wasn't around for any of it had happened before I was born. But. It's a part of American history. That was told that we've we're told after it happened that it was one of the darkest periods of our time. That we could never let that happen again while it's happening now except. As oppose the people on the left being targeted because of their points of view and their loyalties being questioned. Its people are the right at. It isn't going after a French, physician. Which is what Communism was? But after anyone who simply disagrees right now with liberals by taking a couple of instances like the police brutality instances. And turning that into an entire argument that somehow not only as America Racist Society, but our entire culture is terrible that we have to wipe out our heritage. You wouldn't have thought. Derek chevette would've been able to. Prove that the whole country is based on racism simply by killing one suspect. In fact you would think that it would be an absurd point to make, but that is what's occurred, and it's occurred without much debate and dialogue, but as I say. It will keep a current until the debate and dialogue starts until people start fighting back. It does obviously start with opinion leaders, you see some of the people at Fox. Tucker Carlson in particular that are pounding the table. Trying to object. Others wonder whether or not Tucker will himself be targeted and be fired for say for going supposedly too far and right now too far can be almost anything. This is not to say that I'm going to defend the indefensible and many comments have been made that people have got into trouble for. Have Betty defensible? Some are merely people whose Words were taken out of context that others people who said things that were objectionable, but odd ruinous, but when you're terrified of talking, and the other side can just get up there and call police I scream in the face of a police officer, and call him a pig, a murderer, a monster. It is face saying you walk right now on the left. There's no limit as to what you say. And save virtually anything on the right. You're an enormous trouble. What you have to do I. Think is have a plan at again. Conservatives are never ready for this because we're always taken by surprise, and how fast liberals move, and we always have a knee jerk reaction to tend to acquiesce in the short term. We did the same thing and Kuroda virus. The instant Tony came down with that order as opposed to say better safe than sorry, it should have been opposed as a violation of our rights. We're better off the acting overreacting when it comes to the restriction of liberties. But again we try to be practical. What the other side is grabbing power? Companies now well. We have a problem with racism in society. They're going to all the employees to reeducation camps, and so on thinking that that will get the critics off their backs. Take the path of least resistance in the short term, not understanding the long what the real agenda is! One of the things that we still have an election and president, trump keeps try to get people's attention to this threat of ballot, harvesting and mail in voting. This fall is the way the left can hijack the election again. I don't see. Many conservatives had many Republicans. Waking Up to this from again is at least try but. We at least have that vote. That vote will occur and in the past when bullets like this have occurred in times of who else Republicans have done very well. No guarantee it will happen this type. Brings me to my next point though. Some of humor member, and says angels still around. He's still runs for office every now and again he was far remember the Milwaukee Common Coastal. He's made a post on social media. That I think makes a really good point. And I'M GONNA. Take it a step further. I think we should put an advisory referendum on the November ballot in the city of Milwaukee. Should we defend the police? Should we cut the police department ten percent? We put it on the ballot. lefties put these things at the ballot or the time. Put on the ballot. Find out if the residents walkie really do want to cut ten percent of their police officers. That's ten percent of their fingerprint experts. That's ten percent of their community service officers. That's ten percent of the people who specialize in dealing with victims of. Child Sexual Abuse. Put in the ballot. And if it passes caught up. And if they WANNA cut a twenty percent cut twenty percent. Now the point angel makes that. If you put something like this on the ballot in Milwaukee, it would actually not pass. That what you have here is a lot of people shooting off their mouths and other people that are terrified to disagree with them publicly. The vote however is still private. The lefties haven't figured out a way to take a look and see what your ballot says. The trump what in two thousand sixteen, and thus Sanchez's point is is that there would not be support, even liberal Milwaukee for defunding the police, not when people could actually vote, I'm going quotas. Social Media Post. He admits it's the fact that so it starts this baby lengthy, but stick with me, okay angel. It's up to me if I get bored age love cutting off. He writes during the last election. We had a referendum for the NPS sets the schools. So why not have one for the empty? The Police Department if you only knew or if the media would do an open records request Milwaukee public schools. You would learn that it's been out of Control Lake our streets. The faculty has no problem looking in the I telling you different, because they're against charter schools, I am and always will be one hundred percent behind law enforcement in every capacity. Isn't that we pay taxes. And who are you going to call when your indeed if you dial? Your call will be answered in the order received. It is ridiculous to think that any proposal to cut the police department budget would help the citizens that can't get police to show up anyway. That's how thin are personnel spread? So what's the motivation? Milwaukee has been mismanaged for decades. We have as I mentioned before pension obligation that is truly unaffordable and no solution to deal with it. Our cities value was downgraded instead of doing reconstruction projects. The city has decided to asphalt overlays again. He said it was long. This seems to be the direction for many. Many municipalities now as it stands right now, the repairs that should have been happening didn't go didn't all didn't all go to deliver a budget and at the political good news? Taxes enact going up. That's what we voted for assessments wet up and ultimately get less and pay more. Go figure. The people who are under assessed aren't complaining and the thirty percent delinquent care less because we will pay more stick with me again. He says he knows Rwandan. He says so now I believe the police officers in America are seeing the power of the media. They're insinuation Swiss. Mir's tone, context and semantics. They are not nice people. Tell me who wants to go to work and put your life on the line to deal with these issues in the future we will have a force that is less qualified to be an officer and all of this what you know what happens at the Milwaukee County courthouse bullets are flying on the freeway brawling in the Milwaukee Schools Transit buses and the hospitals. Does anyone remember the chaos at the state fair a few years ago? What about the office of the kicked in the face during June eighteen as a few years ago? Crime is out of control that our city. There is no leadership nut over a thousand people annually get shot, and over one hundred will die. It's hard to say the guns the problem when you have several hundred thousand deer, hunters and a few accidents. Actually you may want to consider buying a gun for your own safety. We're either going to be active in support our chief Morales, and all the men and women or not, I'm calling for a referendum on the Milwaukee. Police Department. Let the people decide I believe in the end you will find. That all have is just no more than noise. These societal problems have been manufactured for decades, and it takes consumer. It takes consumers for to exist. It's just ironic that they have taken to the streets wanting more when there's nothing more to give. Almost a billion dollars in thirty years to failed community problems. It's time for a change. Thank you to all of our veterans and law enforcement I'll be voting for trump. MP Safe. That's Angel Sanchez. He's running for the state assembly he's. Former remember the common council. As I said his comment rambles, but I wanted to bring it up because he makes that point. We'll put on the ballot. Put It on the ballot. I've been trying to argue to people. To the point that I'm making this. AD NAUSEAM and I hope it's think again. I hope people understand what by underlying point has been for two weeks. I'll say it again. Just because you don't hear something, don't don't see. Something doesn't mean that it isn't happening. That, there is far less support for some of these movements than the polls would indicate there is far less support for the tax police that you might think there far more support for police that you might think and so just because no one is willing to say or do anything. Does it mean that the attitudes are there? If you think Republican politicians are paralyzed by all, that's going on, so is the public. If you put something out of ballot though. Very few people are still afraid to actually. The way they want because. They haven't figured out a way yet to see how we voted for. Maybe, that'll be their next thing to actually with the mail in ballots opened up and see how Charlie down the street voted. Maybe that's the next line of election fraud, but at the interim. Put It on the Ballard. And if indeed, even in Milwaukee, there is a vote against funding the police then don't define the police. One of the actions that was taken over the over the last several days. That people may have missed. That is the Milwaukee School Board voted unanimously to throw the cops out of the schools that will no longer be police patrols in the Milwaukee public schools or outside the schools. They will only respond when called it will not be on premise. It was only less than a year ago. I take that back it was to. You're less than two years ago. Brad Sham was still the attorney general sort of an eight hundred. It was in two thousand eighteen. There was a major call. To pass legislation. To increase dramatically, the about funding for security of the schools remember that the legislature appropriated and we got federal grants besides. A significant about money to give grants to local school districts. For security in the schools and much of that was used to put police officers in the schools in many communities around the state. It was primarily liberals that pushed this. And they especially screamed that urban communities were not getting enough of the security funding. The too much of it was going to rural areas where there isn't as much of a crime problem. People on the other side, said these random school shootings can just as likely occur in a rural area in big city school that it ought to be disbursed statewide basis, but the left who are clamoring to get more money for cops in the schools and other ones that are throwing the cops out of the schools. One of the problems just accepting these knee jerk responses to liberals come up with these short-term answers is the turn around and change there if there's a terrible school shooting, God forbid Milwaukee and the next four months. They're going to be the first ones to scream at demand that we've put more cops in the schools. The same cops that they voted over the weekend. Throw out of the schools. Taking police officers out of the schools is asset I'd. Yet the vote on the school board was unanimous. And again I'm not aware of any. Public figure media or otherwise. That has condemned the Milwaukee School Board for doing it. But as I. Say there's so much in there so many terrible things that are going on in every possible direction, the people end up objecting to none of it because they don't know which staying out of all the injustices to speak about to actually complain about. Liberals. They're going to attack every front imaginable because this is the time to do it, look at all the corona virus resolutions going out of counties around the state. A number of meetings are again being held at night when a Bagel is holding a meeting died. When everybody's looking the other way at this. Let's pass at the county level the exact same ordinance that was struck down at the state level. By the way quickly on that very issue very quickly. A racine. County judge on Friday struck down Racine's lockdown order essentially on the grounds that they didn't have the authority to do it. The racine common. Council is meeting tonight to pass a new resolution to deal with the weather. The judge just knocked out again. This is how fast liberals move you get a court order striking down one of these idiotic locked out already said they immediately turnaround around the pass it other would. You have to at least grudgingly admire. How well organized how aggressive lefties are! They aren't shy about taking advantage of these situations are side. We blush. If we have even if we had the ability to pull off a power, grab like this, we blush at the notion of being celebrated. W., I S. N. Mark belling late afternoon. Show more shootings overnight. Seattle in the autonomous zone, very very violent weekend in the. Area where the anarchists say that they believe in self enforcement. Don't want any police that come in. There was a round of shootings and Saturday night. At one nineteen year old is dead. There were more shootings again last night with at least one person wounded. We're not sure exactly entirely because they're. addity police involved in the autonomous sewed. I actually think they should keep the police out. They don't have any police in there and the business owners that are still in there while I can just close and pull out ads for the people that led police themselves. People say we'd better off police. Let's actually try it. We got this area in Seattle where people don't want to have the police. Don't bring a bed. Let's see how that works out. And, if indeed, in a year from now it's the most crying free portion of the entire city of Seattle. Maybe they're onto something. I think we know how it'll turn out, but if as I say if the people that are around there, the business owners of Seattle don't ever have clout with the mayor. To Send the National Guard and grab up the anarchists in return order to that section of the city of Seattle sobe at fide. It reminds me of a story line of. Show that I still think is the best TV show ever. It was done by a liberal David Simon. It was called the wire. All sorts of people say the wire is the best TV show ever it's. It's not so much a cult because it's too large to be a cult. Are under the wire all that it was this most brilliant show. After anyway, there was a story line one year. It had a different theme. Every year is always about different things about out of Baltimore, but it's senator around the same sort of group of characters involving the police that a drug gay inside or one of the storylines dealt with the police department. And there was a police district captained. Who was trying to deal with the fact that his district was just a wash and drug dealing, which virtually every big city neighborhoods are just a wash drug dealing. And he came up with this idea. Of taking a section several square block area. I've is this strict and saying he wasn't going to enforce the drug laws there. But he was going to enforce them everywhere else in the district. In other words he's idea was to shove it all into one area. That all the drug dealing that was besieging hidden neighborhoods in his district would end all just move to what area and he tried before. This happened to clear out all the housing in the area to get out everybody who was already in there so that the drug dealers would just be able to run for anybody who wanted to buy drugs or go into that zealot. On the show. They came up with a nickname for it. The called it hamster damn. Clever. The Amsterdam drugs are legal over there. The call, the Hamster Dam that was the light of the show called the wire. Well and of course what happened is the show played itself out? Is they did manage to get the drug dealers out of all the other parts of the neighborhood and wild rampant drug dealing going on in the area. You could see the drug dealers themselves. kind of they're very suspicious that this is a setup that the cops are moving of all. They're just arrest everybody, but eventually the drug dealing by crazy. Until of course, the police captain superiors found out about it, and he lost his job and he was fired. So the point though was obvious in the story. If you stop enforcing the law, you're going to have nothing but utter criminality. The cops go out and let the drug dealing. Go on. There's going to be drug dealing. Likewise you reduce the about a police in big cities. There will be more cried. I think most people know that. Just as you get the police side of the schools, the schools are going to become more dangerous. I think most people though that. I think if you suggest Yankee. Cops out of the schools in some suburban communities said after police officers there'd be considerable objection because parents are freaked out presumably ever actually reopened schools that some kid is going to come in with a gun to decide to shoot up the school. Oh! What's happening here is. In the reaction and all of these tangents. To the police shooting in Minneapolis, and to some extent of what it Atlanta as we go off on all of these other things that some radicals have plotted to achieve for years including, get rid of the police, somehow tying the existence of a police budget to racism. Just as turned out, Teddy Roosevelt Statue in the in New York City some hours, a statement against Racism Teddy Roosevelt was president forty years after slavery ended. WHO's from New York, we're slavery was never illegal. All these tangential things that go on that have very little. There's no support it. New York tearing down the Teddy Roosevelt statue, but they'll get it toward out. What's happening? All sorts of fringe minority? Things are being achieved. Because it's happening so fast, and the rest of society doesn't stand up to object and the media is joining in. With the people of the support of the French possessions. Inevitably these things come to a head, and the way they come to a head is it's remarkable how shameless liberals can be just turned at a died as I said we all remember only a couple of years ago where there are screaming to work cop to the schools. It was bipartisan. There are a lot of Republicans more cops in the cool at schools. I wanted more cops in the schools to the extent that it was practical. But it was the position that almost every we've gotta make our schools safe in these. We've gotta get police officers in the schools. We gotta get off the Straits Chase it after drug dealers at other. Put up in the schools to keep our kids safe. An officer at every was a liberal position here. They are only a couple of years later now voting to throw them all out. The instant that there's more violence in the schools. They could be the first ones demanding that. We put cops back in. This is that they have no sense of. About that and they're never called on these changing standards. In the same way that somebody like Joe Biden is never called. On the fact that he voted for it x clan member to be Senate majority leader. Bob Bird. We could tear down statues of one hundred and fifty years ago, but we're not gonNA blame the current Democratic presidential candidate who voted for a former grand imperial wizard of the clan to be the leader of Senate Democrats. As. They say if you did call people on things like this. They might not be able to get away with it. That's where the role of the media that have been stressing with regard to how to send them to these sprints. Physicians are making their way into the mainstream. That's how that occurs. Eleven thirty W I s mark belling late afternoon show the Ryder Cup has made its decision. A lot of people were fearful that they would hold it without fans are just cancel it altogether instead. They're shoving at twenty twenty one, so the rider coverage scheduled to be held it in Sheboygan County Is Back now from the fall of twenty, twenty, two twenty, twenty one again. I All of these events that they say that they're shoving next year next year next year I don't know what everybody thinks. It's so doggone magical about next year. If you following anything with this corona virus, it said. The viruses weakening, but it is not declining numbers really anywhere in the United States. The numbers are down a bit. We keep hearing talk of a second wave. Even if there is a vaccine I think it's probably fair to say that they have the people that are gonNA. Bother to get it. I don't see any particular reason to think that the virus isn't going to be around next year or that. We are going to have. A mutation of it or a new virus that's GONNA. Come in from China, these things come. Forever and ever, and ever right now you just have. Everybody seems to be afraid to get anything restarted. And almost all the stuff that has restarted has been restarted just five without without any issues, so people who? In the spring we shoved everything to the Subir and then the summer camera. We're still afraid to do it, so we shove it to the fall. Then the things that are in the fall. The fall is getting close for still afraid to do it. Will we ever have school to get? It was concert. We're only school would somebody decides that? They could have school who we decide that okay. Okay, we've got a virus around here. The kids don't seem to get. We're going to say screw it. Maybe there's a wanted a trillion chance. One kid might get sick. So what kids get sick from everything else out of the Sun until we can take that attitude was the attitude that existed everywhere in society and a few months ago about pretty much every kind of illness that there was. Nothing is ever going to restart again. I always say this. It's always easy in the short term to knee. Jerk react. It is very hard to ever reverse. Any of those decisions those of us who have simply said screw it. We're going to do all the things that we were allowed to do. In the past and I can run around with masks this and the other thing. We're perfectly fine and content with that. We have allowed people who have gotten into this freak out of dough to somehow think that the calendar solves a problem. That is solvable problem. The had solvable probably is that viruses come around and no matter what you do with this one. You're not gonNA come up with a way to wipe it out because he say what regard to vaccinations, not everybody's going to get vaccinated. Add there'll be another. Biber, said another virus at another Vibert said another virus and somebody a lot deadlier than this one. which has a very weak with -ality there's a stanford researcher by the way out today who says that for people under the age of seventy, the mortality rate is zero point zero four percent now it's obviously much higher for all cases, because the lethality rate for people over seventy is rather high, but if you get rotavirus and you're under the age of seventy, he says the stats are now. We keep getting better stats because we get more and more positive tests in the past, but we were testing any people that a lot of people who had it. We just didn't know it. The more people we know that, have it. You can compare that much larger number against the death toll that if you've been looking anywhere in the united, states debts keep going down. But the DESA going out. It may simply be that we're testing people, or it's possible the viruses weakening or it's possible there's a seasonality to it that the viruses and very strong during summer months, or it's possible that people are developing immunity is more and more people have been exposed to it. This thing is killing many people right now at all, but we were made in a societal lacked the thing with the schools. I've been asking all of this. WHAT'S THE END Gabe? We simply going to say we'RE NOT GONNA. Teach kids anymore that we are going to have school. Nobody ever answers that question. They just keep kicking. The can down the road. Well we'll have a survey by the way you've got a new version of school perceptions. There's another company that's the company that whatever they want to pass the referendum. The same survey is being sent to parents at all these school districts around the region prepared by the same company. The Lazy School Superintendents Cat. Even draw up their own survey. They're wasting money on a survey company Milwaukee hiring that company to send out the surveys, and they all asked to save the a good comeback. We know what they're gonNA come back. Back, it'll be fixed. Some parents say we want the schools to close suburb of say. We want them to the open, so you get a mixed result. What are you GonNa do to say. What do you think happens? Next year? You'll get the same result. Some parents will say keep the schools up in some say they'll keep say to keep them closed. You don't want to send your kids to. School fired home school your kids over the schools upper. Everybody else wants to send their kids. Teachers don't want to come and get rid of. I could solve most of these problems by snapping my fingers. What would you bellingham go put up? The schools at parents want to send their kids to school. Let them teach themselves at home. Pretty Simple, right? I think I've solved that problem I do the same thing with baseball star playing baseball at the fans come anybody who wants to come to cover some players. Don't WANNA play. Let him quit. Baseball retire solves that problem to. All of these reactions are the obvious reaction. It just becomes extremely hard to do. Because everybody's afraid to make that I move even though. Those that have made the move. They find that there's actually no issues with it at all. In Wisconsin after the Supreme Court ruled and we ended the lack dowd. The virus cases would spike. We are still going to Wisconsin. Where now better than three weeks into the protesting? In, the what's going out all over Wisconsin especially, in Milwaukee, the numbers in Wisconsin are still down. While they're go up. Yeah. They are and the going down in Wisconsin both states had protests an indication that maybe the protests that has nothing to do with cases going up or down. Well if this happens, it was going to this happens. If this happened, this happened to this episode. This happened to this happens. It happens, and then nothing ever happens. The virus cases are going up and they're going down seemingly at random with no actual ause with regard to Eddie activity, going on or not. Illinois is still totally blacked-out and their case rate remains higher than Wisconsin which is other than. Madison and some things in Milwaukee dot lockdown. I want to share something from a listener I. Get these all the time and I share very few of them the situation I acknowledge senior citizen residents and nursing homes, and so on is difficult from a management perspective. I'm telling you after the weekend? Everything's always busted in here there. Somebody's yanked out on the microphone promptly all wicked. It's a new stand. Well I don't like it. Well. That's the problem it's. It's droopy. Put the bid a lot when he talking committal up. So like sex talk going on there put the middle up. What do you the middle up? Put The biddle up. Okay, that's Paul's answer. PUT The middle up. The middle of the middle of what that stand over there. Let me share this with the. It's a very very sad story. I understand that the people who run these facilities. are in a difficult situation because you have a virus that essentially as a problem that nobody other than the elderly other than a handful of unlucky people younger than that. But they respond by not following the wishes of the individual residence now I, if you choose to live in a senior facility or assisted living or anything like that, you're sacrificing a lot of right your rights in your longer, a human being with control of your destiny anymore, and if they wanNA lock you up and treat you like a prisoner well, you move did I. Get all of that. Still listen to this. Mark plays really read. Please read the following below. It is a sad story about the state of Wisconsin coded are married senior citizens and senior housing. I have ninety-year-old in laws who have been living at a senior Living Center for the past eleven years. It's a high end one and a really nice facility. It's one of those places where they are beautiful apartments for independent living, but as the needs of the senior changes they have rehab memory at assisted, living four and A. A half years ago. My father-in-law had a stroke so unfortunately their lifestyle had changed and coming up on two years ago. He had an infection which ended up in his brain. He pulled through it. We are grateful to have him with us. Since the brain infection happened, he needs more care. His memory isn't always good. and My mother-in-law hired aides that come in to assist in the evening, so she may sleep at night and midday, so she can get other things done. Ninety year old mother-in-law is his main and devoted caretaker. So here's this couple. They're both ninety. The old guys had a stroke. No, he's got other every issue. She's still find that she's hired staff to help out in carrying for him. The story continues. Once covid happened and things started closing up. Restrictions were happening. I started going to the store for them to keep their expenses dowd since March they have not been out of their facility other than for doctors appointments for which they are transported by their living facility. When I bring groceries to them I have not allowed to enter the building I put the bags at a cart that's pushed out into the breezeway. They are as pure from Colbert is. Anyone can bay. Last, Sunday my father-in-law had another stroke. When it was the by the facility that he needed to go to the hospital emergency room. My mother-in-law was not allowed to go with him. Ninety. They've been married about seventy years. He has a stroke she can't count. So he was all by himself in the emergency ward remembered. They lived together, but she can't go with him to the hospital. He's the one who's having another stroke. She can accompany him even though she lives with him. Back to the story, so he was all by himself at the emergency ward. I remember, the guy is ninety. He's not having a second stroke at. He has other issues. She was able to go see him once. He was put in the hospital room and she visited the three days that he was hospitalized wearing a mask the whole time, but he's now out of the hospital at at the Rehab Center at the facility. This is where it gets ugly. Would you believe that? Even though my mother-in-law lives in an apartment which is part of the facility? Even though it's recorded that she does not go to the store, it is not out of the building. The facility will not allow her to see. Allow her to see her husband because of Kobe. He's in the same facility. He's upper and Rehab she's at an apartment in the same complex. They will not let her leave the apartment to go over to Rehab. Even though she's not leaving the building at all for anything, so she's totally sealed off from the ability to get covid. She's in the same I know. She's in the same facility that he said. He's in the Rehab Center, but she's not allowed to have any contact with him. And their ninety. Her only recent outing to be able to see him in the hospital under their strict big guidelines and she had to wear mass. My mother-in-law was told by the facility that it is a rule that is coming from the state. It's true I consider this to be elder abuse I understand rules like my husband can't go. See His dad because he's out in the. The world with potential exposure to covid that I get, and we would never want to put my in laws or any elder at risk, but to refuse a wife who lives in the same complex and governed by their rules who has as low arrests that Kobe exposure as you can get to not be able to see her sick husband. That's just plain cruel. I'm worried that without him seeing his wife, my father-in-law may feel abandoned even though she explained to him the situation. The, problem is. We don't know how long he is going to remember what she told you. I'm afraid that without seeing his wife of almost seventy years who he is not only devoted to, but also depends on. Without her coaching and cokes again, he made make it I'm afraid that my father-in-law might just give up if he doesn't see her maximum. He's going to be in their two weeks minimum rather. He's going to be in their two weeks. This stroke is more serious, so I'm afraid that maybe logger. I just learned that. A friend of my father in law who lives at the same facility had her husband and memory care there. She was denied access to her husband wasn't allowed to see him for four weeks doing a covid, he died alone. And this woman is heartbroken because she couldn't say goodbye. Handful everyday talking about the riots of the horrible things out of control that are going on and happening in the world. You never run out of things to talk about, but he's days. Are you're always saying who would have thought well? Who would have thought that ninety year old, loving, devoted wife of an? Almost. Seventy years would be denied by the state of Wisconsin access to her husband. The, other thing that you say our God is that people don't care about something if it doesn't have affect them, but people don't know what's happening. How do they care? That's why people like me. Listen your show. You read and filters your all the information that is out there the out there for the day, and you tell us about it, but most importantly you also tell us about things that no one else will tell us about you have told us about the human side of the covid story other than seeing people. People walking around with masks on their faces Colbert. It's a somewhat forgotten or accepted they most places that are open people's lives change, but it seems as though people are comfortable with the new rules. However it is that unless you have someone in a senior living center, nursing home, or the like you don't know about the horrible and cruel restrictions that have been put upon our elderly citizens and true. They are upset when they see that the rioters are at abiding by the same rules that they are harshly being held to. My mother-in-law does not want us to make trouble for them. So, we will not call the facility and honor her wishes, but this is wrong so obviously I can't name the facility or anything else because the mother-in-laws freaked. They're going to crack down on her even more than that. She can't see your husband. She's been married him for almost seven years there in the exact same facility. These are the rules of the Rosie's the Rosie's Ed right. There is a cop in the state of Wisconsin who did anything to enforce any rules during any protests? And the same person. Who Shoving all of these colored rules one-size-fits-all into all of these facilities the administration. And that same crowd, the ones that are perfectly fine with protesters violating all of the rules now the one point that I disagree with the woman on his, she says well. People don't know that this kind of thing is going on. They would cure. They found out about it I. Don't think that that's correct I think most people know what's going on in these senior centers and so on. On. We've had a number of stories of people whose relative has died alone because they've been denied access. I've done several of these I. have heard almost no pressure from anyone elected official, or otherwise to make Iverson end this policy of segregation with regard to the senior citizen centers. If a married couple wants to see one another and one of these facilities, they ought be able to do so. And if they don't keep them apart. And I get when you move into one of these facilities you give up almost all of your freedom and. Your living under that kind of dictatorial control. Put yourself in the other guy's shoes. You're ninety of head your second stroke and you're not allowed to see your wife because you might get the call, but I think I'd risk getting the culprit particularly given the fact that he might end up dying anyway. I'd have loneliness of desperation and the fact that he's ninety years old. They're ninety. How long do they have anyway? One size fits all and I grant you. It's a difficult situation because the only high risk population, we have our senior citizens and one of the most high risk type of facilities that we have had our the nursing homes. But what you could say that these people were living together. In the same apartment. Through the entire time until the most recent stroke to separate them now is Asinine. Five twenty, but I tell you the name of the facility, but like I said the nine year old woman is freaked out, and she does a water daughter. Eva, call up herself. And complain about it in the meantime here we are running around making sure that when Charlie wants to go to the menards. He's got the mask God. Don't think we ourselves. A society are not partly to blame for this we are. By being. Fascists in enforcing some of these health rules. And then turning around and blakely looking the other way. When protesters are violating every single rule in the book after night after night after night after night and admitted, we're just five. Milwaukee this is the mark belling late afternoon. Show I news. Talk Eleven thirty. W I S at. I want it very quickly expanded point. I was making at the end of the last. Hour when I talked about. All the things that are canceled all the things that are closed while the meantime pretty much anything that's up is doing relatively well. and has had almost no issues. We are headed toward. A second economic downturn. If we don't. Essentially aggressively reopened the things that have been closed. When you take a look at right now, the big areas of closure are. Office buildings virtually nobody who works in office hours anywhere in the United States is working in those facilities right down sporting events virtually all of them have been shut down. With the sports leagues themselves. Showing incredible ineptitude and restarting themselves. And the schools? Nobody's announced the reopening of any of the schools. and. Everyone seems terrified to move forward the problem that all of them are facing as they are looking for senses. You'll never find consensus in this. Let me explain why there are some people who would just assume seeing these things lockdown permanently. Many of the people who work at offices would rather work at home for the rest of their lives. Many of the people that are unemployed, but are making more money at unemployment that they were making working. People, who are fans of sports are perfectly fine with all of the sports being shut dowd. As for the schools, there will be never a case in which you're going to get all parents, and for Heaven's sakes. Any of the teachers who are going to water returned to work. If you were a teacher, you ought to return to work. They haven't laid off Eddie of them. And they're all sitting on their butts, not having to go into the schools teach. So the simple? I don't put everything up. In somebody doesn't want to participate doesn't have to participate. Fat An office building. Get Open it up. The employees that don't want to show up. Let them stay at home NFL. Side that I. Don't need a by laid off for good. I haven't tried to work at all, but that's what I need to do. The same thing with regard to the sporting events. I, started up now. Celtics whoever wants to come? For thirty percent capacity were thirty percent capacity of. That's all the watch the cup. Some of the players Wada retire because they don't feel safe, let retire. Same, thing with regard to the schools. I don't put him up. See how many kids show up. The ones that don't show up well. We'll send some online stuff to help. The parents teach them at home, but that's what they would have been doing anyway. There said they hold getting some online stuff. It's very hard for anyone to do this because they will get criticism, the past path of least resistance is to stick with the status quo, which is keeping everything closed, but obviously that's not sustainable, unless we're deciding that they're simply will never be sports again. That anybody who works in an office building that those offices will be permanently empty. And we are going to end the notion of educating children. To think that time solves any of these problems, they silly. What does happen with all illnesses of this nature in the history of illnesses of this nature is they run their course? The most vulnerable direly because they have the least resistance. As the thing eventually spreads to the larger population. The people with more resistance. Fight it off. But? It takes a long time because we rarely ever cure any of these things and. By, about the time that we get it runs the course. Some new thing is coming rolling through society. Let me move odd. For thirty years I have had to. Deal with Whitey as politicians from. Anomaly falls thirty years. That's what it's been thirty years Whitey as politicians from menominee falls. Star old. Joe Greco. Thirty years ago, it was the village president out there little. The thirty years later, the legacy of Joe Greco would still be going on, and you'd have whiny. Ask politicians from nominee falls claiming they're conservative as they act in an unconservative fashion. I try to be fair. I try to present both sides and then I call them. Up present both sides here and then call them as I see him. Now the latest round of trouble in menominee it's always something of an oddity falls. Last year they were changing the school nickname and the school board. Wouldn't stand up to. The Superintendent was appalled that they called themselves Indians. They changed the nickname. Wafting complained about it, but they changed it anyway, and they moved on the other powers-that-be in menominee falls. Let's say it again. CAP got their tongue. They didn't object. The people of nominee falls. Keep complaining when I say that their leaders are mostly a bunch of liberals, but they keep acting like liberals. Somebody who is a conservative would have called for the ouster of the school board members that would have called out the superintendent for what he was. A guy who doesn't much like is community was trying to dictate to everyone. Everyone else and a school board. Consisting of a bunch of people who are packed a liars already made up their mind months ago to change the nickname and went through a fires now. The village President Glasgow didn't do that because he wants to be Nice City, Nice with the school board, and then turn around and claims a conservative on the other side. So he must not like the fact that I'm actually suggesting that elected officials at a conservative community be conservative. He calls himself a conservative, but he's not from what I can tell based on my experiences over the last week and a half to two weeks. He's the guy who likes to claim that he's a conservative, but doesn't have the you-know-what to actually stand up and tough times. And do so. which is his prerogative? Law that says you have to be a conservative? The Laws Zipper moderate. No Law that says you have to be a liberal. I grant that this is a difficult situation for suburban officials when protesters decide to protest and communities that are not used to it, which is why the protesters have enjoyed in this particular round of protesting targeting the suburbs because they like making suburbanites elaine comfortable. So anyway, we had the situation of a nominee falls. It is Glasgow's not the most lefty public official in southeastern Wisconsin, he just left ear them nominee falls actually is, but menominee falls keeps electing guys like him so. The problem at least partly exists with residents in the community who think they're electing conservatives, but they're not anyway. Here's by this latest back and forth involved. The nominee false came about. Glasgow was engaged in a social media conversation. With a resident of the community. and. The resident of the community was referring to. The protests that are being led by Frank Nettie. Frank at his partner. Khalil have led a number of the protests that have gone I here on here in southeastern Wisconsin they've been very rockets. They've been very disruptive, but they have been without violence so therefore I would say they were peaceful and the person who online was talking to LASCO. Mentioned that and this is how Glasgow respotted this social media posts that will quote it for Beta. Listen carefully because he claims I'm taking his comments out of context I. Think I honestly and accurately described them. He said in response to the person it was referring to Franken had these protests. You are most welcome I have heard they elite peaceful marches. We need much more of that in our communities. I A- Turpin data saying that they had Glasgow. The head of a nominee falls believes that we need much more peaceful marches in his community. That's my interpretation of it. Is that how you would interpret it? Are Read it again. You are most welcome this that was. Responding to the woman that he was on the social media conversation with it was thanking him for supporting the protests I have heard they, and that's Frank Nettie and his group lead marches. We need much more of that. In our communities. He goes on peace, respect and compassion for each other. That crosses ratio lives. He then goes on, and says I'm thankful that my parents taught me well. My Dad's best friend in college was black, and he also went into the inner city. Of Chicago coach of black youth wrestling team, and that was back in the fifties, when that was unheard of he took a lot of flack and lost friends, but he stood in his principles and convictions. That's how I was raised and I will forever be thankful. We're anyway I put that social media posts up on belling dot com and I said that the village president monopoly falls. Encouraged protests how many falls which I think was accurate and response to what it was that he said. Glasgow Gal has thrown a stink. Claiming that I have taken his comment out of context and he's demanding. A retraction. I'm going to embarrass him. Read verbatim what he said to me. And then my response market very disappointed in your statement about me, personally as well as regarding our great community and menominee falls June seventeenth program in spite of giving me the opportunity ahead of time to provide context around a copy of a private message that was sent to you. You nonetheless blatantly misrepresented me and my message on your program I believed that Chris slinger political activists from the falls Republican Group I paid to copy of a personal private message that I had with a resident last Tuesday afternoon. I will point out that. On social media is private, regarding a protest march organized by Frank Nitty, and forwarded -til the resident had posted my message on another page without by knowledge, and made some statements of her own, appearing to indicate that I supported these protests marches I have since contacted that resident at she has apologized for taking my comments out of context. You need to know that you did not. Have you need to know that you do not have a complete picture I posted a PSA and my village President Facebook page twelve thirty five pm Tuesday afternoon after learning. Learning that morning. That a People's movement marched frank, that's Frank Nettie and Khalil Coleman a protest march had been organized at very short notice in response to perceived racists, inflammatory comments made by trustees staved Steve Taggart at a resident named I won't name resident, although she had protests at our house on Monday evening during our public comment period at the village board Frank Nettie stated as such in his live video feed Tuesday evening that they came out specifically concerning these two individuals at one. Oh, six PM resident in response to my PSA message me. Thanking me for my welcoming the group in fact I had not mentioned anywhere that I had put out a welcome. I was only informing our community of a protest march. However, I did respond to her in the message that I had heard that they had led peaceful marches. Mark You yourself at the what our twenty three minutes and fifteen second mark. Clearly, the guys city to the podcast stated the stated. That none of Netease marches have been bald violence again. At one thirty, two zero seven marks stated that the protests have largely been peaceful I was simply acknowledging the same and I went on to say that we need much more of that in our communities that being peace, love and compassion for each of the cry for for each other crosses where you show lives, thus, it was confusing to me that later. You stated that a lot of people are making a big deal that I appeared appeal appeared to invite the protests that come to menominee falls and that I want to. To have, and that I want to have a lot of protests here. In fact, this is me I. Did say that in that was my interpretation of his message. That is absolutely the most ridiculous distortion I think I've seen in a long time, and the record is is completely false and unsubstantiated how you could manipulate my message the fit. This bizarre narrative is beyond comprehension, and especially to do so on the basis of a short fragmented message given to you by a no one, antagonist, political operative or someone of his group who intentionally send it to you to harm my reputation. I. Don't know who said it to be. Actually if I did I, don't remember. I am merely go in with my interpretation when. He commented on Frank Nitty marches, saying that he heard that they were very peaceful and then said that we need more of these in our communities. It sounds to me like he's saying. We need more of these peaceful marches in our communities and one of the communities community that he runs, is monopoly falls. That is my interpretation anyway. Glasgow thinks that that interpretation is ridiculous. While presenting his side, he then continues for the record. You will not find a single solitary, welcome offer or invitation for me to any protest group in any written or electronic form from anywhere in my entire life I never invited any protesters to come to menominee falls at I never will, it would be a gross. Their election of my duty enroll village president to do so. He does go on and makes a number of points, but I think that fairly described. His response to what I reported. On the basis of what? He, said not I did respond to that. I said Mr Glasgow in your online exchange. The person referred directly to the group led by Frank Nettie. You responded quote I. Have Heard they lead peaceful marches. We need much more of that in our communities. You are clearly making that comment in reference to the they with a they being the nitty led protesters. In addition, it is accurate to say that you were among those leading the charge to make a major issue out of TAGGART's comments by your own statement, the opposition to Taggart's comments was the basis for the protest I don't know how you can claim that there is a disconnect here. As for the statement about the village board being liberal, I have a thirty year history of. Of focusing on the menominee falls leaders who call themselves conservatives, but I simply not conservative. It is very telling that you continue to support. The very liberal menominee falls school board, which pushed enormous school right which pushed an enormous school referendum. You also refuse to join the push to condemn the school board for killing the team nickname, claiming that it was important to maintain good relations with the school board. It is my opinion that a true conservative would try to do everything in his or her power to block. The agenda of liberal agency, not maintained good relations. My statement on the Liberal Board is also a reference to the preposterous hotel deal of a few years ago and finally I would. Would think that a conservative village board would stand up right now. I give a strong public statement of support up to its police officers who had to endure vile insults at least according to what I was told by residents by the people who marched in your community for the record. I have defended the right of the protesters to protests that have criticized a number of their messages and Glasgow responded to that, and what aboard the audience with this forever, but I do think it's important to put his side out there and also explain why I took the side that I took, and he responded while of that by saying mark. You're completely wrong. I responded to her comment that I had. Had heard these marches peaceful nonviolent. You also stated the same as I indicated in my i. e email. You don't get to tell anyone what they said or didn't say I. Don't understand that I wrote that what we need is we need more piece that cross racial lights. It takes some serious mental gymnastics to distort that into claiming I want more protests that come in I never have, and I never will, and I was messaging with a resident who has no connection to Frank Nydia his group. Stop Doing Chris. Lakers dirty work, and start holding yourself accountable for portraying issues truthfully, and then he goes out and explain to slots on the referendum and why he didn't criticize the school board. On the nickname thing and so odd again, if Glasgow who runs manabe balls wants to say now that he didn't invite the protesters to come to. The nominee falls, and I take. His word took his words out of context. That's a fair interpretation of his comments. I will simply go back to reading what he wrote and why I felt that he was saying in responding to a resident who's referring to Frank Netease protests. He wrote. You are most welcome I. have heard they lead peaceful marches. We need much more of that in our communities. Now me if he was referring to peace as opposed to peaceful marches. Okay. I suppose that's an interpretation. However, not my interpretation and I believe that it affair of my interpretation to be that he said we need more peaceful marches in our communities, but if he meant that he just met more peace and the. Reference Wealth that's side and he puts it out there and I'm happy to pass a law, but I'm not going to retract a damn thing, and this is not the first time that somebody who leads Manami falls who had an opportunity to stand up and say we have an outstanding police department. And to say that Steve Taggart's comments while badly worded were hardly. The most racist comment that we're ever uttered which I don't they were. He made a comment that I. Thought was stupid. As I said, referring to target practice police department going on at the same time that there was talk of a protest state was actually true. There was target practice going God, but I get what is saying. was that resulted in a call? Of course the host him, which I think, the people who are not conservative and monopoly falls have been. been laying for for some time, take advantage of a situation to get rid of someone who is conservative, the very same thing that we see going on all over America with regard to anybody else who puts a word in the wrong place I would think someone who actually was a conservative leader of Benami falls would want to have as many conservative allies out there. It's possible to stop the remarkable creep of liberalism into taking over almost all parts of our society. News Talk Eleven thirty wins Edmark Gallo late afternoon show. Nobody knows base was going to do. It's up to the commissioner he can. Because the players have a contract, simply impose the season schedule. If he wants, he can do that. And if that is what happens in some players, don't show up. Who knows if there's going to be at twenty twenty one season as it is their long-term collective bargaining agreement. Extends after the end of next year I think with regard to wall of these sports where some of the athletes don't WanNA participate. Everybody thinks short-term at every day. They're not thinking about the long term. I think the long term viability of baseballs in question. I think the long term viability of the N. B. I. think that the NBA salaries we see right now might be the highest that will ever be that. They will not ever go up again that the economic model is being wracked. By not playing games, and by saying that every time that there's a sickness that you can't advance, show up. You're cutting into the revenue stream that these teams have also the longer you go. Without having the sport. The more people find other things to do i. told the story any number of times about what happened to the newspapers in New York when they all went a strike of the sixties, New Yorkers to have like eleven daily newspapers, they went on strike, and when the strike ended up almost all of them, other than the main three or four. People got used to not having them and didn't need them once they returned. If I was a professional athlete in this environment I would grab any deal. I could play as many games as I. possibly could know in the case of baseball. They WANNA play a few games as they can, but still able to generate revenue and have a playoff system fits in place, so they can put those games on TV. The Union require rejected the last deal. It's up to the commissioner to act like a commissioner and impose something in the meantime. The fans are mad at everybody saying things going to come to a head and football when the NFL decides. We're not gonNA let fans come to the Games, which I think is better than fifty fifty. Going to hack off the fans that they gotta turn on the TV and watch games that are played without the national anthems, GonNa. Come on! All the players are going to kneel. The long-term model for this, you can't just keep taking your customer base and flipping them off and expecting them to continue to buy your product. An the whole restarting of all of this stuff. It has never again with so many things are saying lately that nothing's like this has ever happened until thou. We've never had a situation. We couldn't play sports because some people thought they might get sick by something from somebody else for crying out loud look at the number football games that people have been played. The Guy that cross of you probably has the worst case of the flu that you could imagine. He's got you data the pilot he spit spits. Fall at all over your visit. You Play Sports. You catch. Things have guys all the time. They're in a lack of room. They're all using the same shower forever and ever and ever. They didn't even have stalls of the shower. One guy's Bara soaps footnote pick it up that these things have always been germ fess suddenly now we can't play these games because the athletes are afraid of getting sick, afraid of getting sick or play a game of chicken. Rip Up Your ACL and not play for three years. You're worried about catching the cultivating. If. We learn anything from this. It's once you shut something down. It's almost impossible to ever started back up. There will be people against it, no matter what the scenario or situation is. Paul doesn't think there'll be an NBA season either I don't either I also don't think the honest will ever play another game for the Milwaukee. Bucks I don't know how long term anybody other than the teams of the largest market survive a year and a half without fans have the ability to pay those types of salaries. Well you said. The five Serb sits empty for the next year and a half. That's what I said. That's what I said I don't think that the bucks are going to be able to afford Yana send. I wouldn't be surprised the. What all is said and done. The brewers have to trade Christian Yelich after signing onto that long term contract that the smaller markets are going to be the ones that are hard the most by losing a portion of. Their revenue base and ask for the players I mean. It'd be like me here, saying. I don't feel comfortable doing by chauffeured night buds. One of the reasons that would be really stupid as you all be finding something else to be listened to in the afternoon, you might not come back to be one of decided that it was finally safe for me to fight off the corona. Virus and covenant do the program. Anybody. Who has any sort of sense of job security? I mean face it. We're a country of wally pips waiting for Lou GEHRIG. Di Come in. Nobody ever efforts I can't keep telling these old mad references that nobody ever gets. You get the Volley Pitt where they should. That's a great line it just. Incredibly good line that nobody gets where they should. Awali pips waiting for the next Lou Gehrig to watch it. You don't you don't even know this story, do you? Know while EPA up was the first Baseman for the New York Yankees. You're sick one day. They put Lou Gehrig. He played the next two, thousand, one hundred. That was the guy who cal ripken broke his record. He didn't miss a game for sixteen years. Lou Garrick played until he died literally died. There's an old joke about that. It's the one that Christopher kept telling the Superior Sopranos. Chris the practice he must have said it four times during the course of the show. You sit at a coincidence. Lou gehrig died of Lou GEHRIG's disease. A ls, of course they called it Lou Gehrig's disease because nobody heard of it before Lou Gehrig. Got You know the point at wally pipped Mista Game Lou. GEHRIG stepped in and took with Solta Lou Gehrig never gave up the job again. Some of these athletes and some of these educators in somebody's other people that are unwilling to return I'd say the same thing to a lot of these people that are at work at home mode when some of their fellow employees are going back into the buildings. The boss might decide. He can get along without you. Now the field that I did. Radio were all the good. It's the your your latest ratings book forever. You feel a sense of job insecurity and you're threatened by. Prolonged absence and so odd. I think see some of these sports. Leagues need to think about that. Absence does it make the heart grow fonder? You get used to the absence. Eleven thirty wins mark late afternoon. Show I mentioned. You can't even keep track of the number of statues that are coming down the Museum of Natural History in New York taking down the Theodore Roosevelt statue on the grounds that. He represented colonialism. Well. I mean kind of, but he wasn't. An original colonialist Theodore Roosevelt was the president around the turn of the eighteen hundred and nineteen hundreds. You can't get them for slave. Voting Slavery Slavery was ended forty years before he became president of the United States. They're just looking for excuses. I mentioned they tore down the statue of Judah. Pero Sarah Francisco. There's a statue of him in. The Capitol building in the United States of Harrow Sarah was one of the original missions. WHO settled from Spain? It was largely Spanish that settled the carrier that we now know as California and brought Christianity to the state of California. It's the reason so many cities in California are named. With Spanish names and named after saints like San Francisco, San Diego and so what? Right now if you simply say, somebody's dropped their name on the grounds that it's offensive. People have no way of knowing whether you're making it up or saying it's true. For example. There are calls to change the name of one of the following baseball teams. The San Diego padres the Texas Rangers. Credit against which what it is. I'm telling you can't do it. It's an impossibility guess much. What is being deemed to be offensive today. You WanNa. Take a stab at it. Texas Rangers correct. It's the name of the Texas Rangers. Because the Texas Rangers of course defended the State of Texas during the during the Mexican war, and somehow that's just somehow that it's bias that whatever. The bag factors of eskimo pie say that they will change the name of their ice cream sandwich. It would no longer be Escobar, pie the near term eskimo is considered to be offensive to indigenous people of Northern Alaska, so they will not be eskimo piety war. I some of these products you're not even gonNA. Know what the thing is anymore although I will admit I didn't even know they still made escapades. I think I had my last couple pie when I was thirteen. I I guess they're still out there, but they won't be Eskimo pies anymore. Apparently saw, but and and we decided to change the name now because we're now in more enlightened because George Floyd got murdered. The name, the name the name wasn't offensive for weeks ago, but it's offensive now. There are calls now to remove statues of Ulysses s grant. He was the general that won the civil war had he lost the damn thing? They might still be slaves in the south, so we'll. He was a slave owner while it's true. Prior to the war, somebody gave him a slave as a gift. He responded by setting that slave free, but he did in the interim own a sleigh. That's correct. After the war was over eighty became president the United States. He prosecuted a lot of those southern owned slaves pretty much shut down the Ku Klux Klan. They want to eliminate the statue of Thomas Jefferson on the grounds that he was a slave owner. Well Jefferson indeed did own slaves. It's almost all landowners did in the south. That is true. That's undeniable. When the United States acquired the northwest, territory was Jefferson the sign the law that banned slavery there it was Jefferson. Who in the original draft of the Declaration of Independence, condemned slavery? Why did they take that out? Fascinating fact, actually for anyone who knows that he American history would know. Do you know why they took out? The light of condemning slavery and the Declaration of Independence take a guess. They felt that it would be impossible to keep the union together unless they allowed the southern states to keep slaves who had at that time of the original thirteen colonies, some allowed the legal ownership of slaves, and they made the decision that they were better off achieving union with more freedom by holding that group together. So that's when the infernal deal was caught, there would be no slaves in the in the north, but they would allow them in the South to suggest that Thomas Jefferson was on the wrong side of history, and that puts almost everyone in that context on the wrong side of history. The movie. Hamilton is coming out the movie version of the hit. Broadway play Hamilton coming out that. Play! Treats Thomas Jefferson very positively. Total lefty operation. Will they sanitizing change? The script will Lin Manuel Miranda changed the script of Hamilton to suddenly portray Jefferson as a monster I'm assuming Hamilton is safe. Given the fact that he himself was a slave at six seventeen news talk eleven thirty W I. Eleven thirty wins and Mark belling. Late afternoon show. They ran the Belmont stakes without fans on Saturday. The joke that everybody tells us. How can you tell? There's nobody at Belmont Park Belmont Park's always empty, except for the Belmont stakes, so it looked like any other day too big giant thing and on a given day. Two thousand people show up well. There was nobody there off the rights. The big paper kids. The law won the race. The horse that I picked to beat him. Dr Post ran second in my analysis of the race that. That said they were inseparable I. put Dr Post on top because he was the hierarchy ceelo horses, I had running one to rent, who won the horse that I picked fourth ended up fourth I also put out for the audience four other races that were run on Saturday that I liked in other words by Ford. Best Bets of the day you believe the three of the one. Two of them going off at night, odds of nine to two, the other was the favourite. As you know, I'm tired of putting these things up there, because by and large people just bitch about them and show no gratitude tonight crank on winner after winner after winner or allies race, either perfectly. You're awfully close to it, but. we did at this time around I've had a lot of people you of kids. The law will win the triple crown will. It's a weird triple crown. It's even more complicated by virtue of the fact that the owners of the Horse. Have higher ambitions than winning the triple crown. The Kentucky. Derby is Labor Day weekend, but they're running the travers at Saratoga. The first weekend in August and I guarantee you the owner to kids. The law would rather in the travers than the Kentucky Derby because they're from New York, and if you're from New York, the Belmont stakes and the travers of the be all. All and the end all so they're gonNA have that horse cranked up the first week at an August whether or not he can sustain at run a month later at the highest level in the Kentucky Derby, and then another month later in the preakness I mean. He's always going to be trying to win the quadruple crowd. It's very hard to do when I would. Bet against it. Is that a lot running to Talladega race this afternoon? Given Weird. The world is watch bubble Wallace where there's about twenty laps left in the race. There are many people that are questioning the validity of this story that a newspaper apparently found. In his trailer. Over the weekend they're writing. The race. Today was rained out yesterday. Bob Wallace is the only black driver on the NASCAR Cup circuit, and he was one of the most vocal in calling for the elimination of the confederate flag, a member of his team said he found a news in Bubbas trailer, and it's become a major story. Many are questioning why there was either not at he cameras and trailer. Who had access to this anybody with the news? Is there a photo with the newest and the answer? All of those questions is no that does not mean. Somebody didn't place news first of all this. This races in Talladega, which is in the middle of Alabama. This is the south south south second. The whitest sport we have in America is stock car racing the reason bubba Wallace is a rarity as there were virtually no blacks that are involved in the sport. I would not put it past anyone to put a noose in there. The other head there have been so many new socks is over the last several years that it is not surprising that some people would wonder about this one again. You would think with all the security and try in NASCAR trailers, and so on, there'd be cameras everywhere. But maybe there are I mean. The number of hoax. Is that have come forward over the years with regard to hoaxes? There was just one several months ago, but again that doesn't mean that this. What is I would hope that NASCAR would investigate it and I. Hope that that would mean that if they find that. There is no evidence of it. We hear that if there is evidence of it, find out who was put. The new cities trailer it would certainly be. An extremely risky thing for someone to do because if caught. They would go down and sham all time of being an incredible racist. which does it mean that it didn't happen? It also doesn't mean that it did happen. We won't know what happened until we find out one way or another. What did happen? Finally before we close up shop for the program. All the time I am amazed at the people and I guess it's people who mostly don't live, say in Milwaukee or the east side or shorewood or at Madison. Who are shocked at how ugly? Prompting liberals are. Who just always shocked at some of the reactions that they get I can't believe this person we do this. I can't believe this person who you tell them again and again and again and again that this. Attitude of not only hating trump. They hate everyone who likes trump. Got Another one I thought I'd sure if for no other reason than to try to open. Some of your eyes is to what's going on out there. The skies contacted me from cut hay market. My rummage sale on. Friday would have been this past Friday. A woman hurriedly jumped out of her car and verbally accosted a friend of mine, helping with my rummage sale. The woman charged that my friend. Way Your finger and be rating by friend. Calling us the usual names, because until recently I had a trump sign in front of my house. I proudly support trump. Even. A Helix job! I won't say it, but I took the sign down prior to the rummage, simply to respect those in opposition to trump completely out of respect for those people I think he took the sign down because he wanted to sell all the stuff at the rubbish. Anyway while being costed, my friend looked utterly confused. As the House is by here, this woman has she screaming at the Rog Parts? She thinks this is the homeowner. It's actually some women that's come over for the sale, but the trumpeter is ball at her out. What I told. The trump hated that the house is mine. The woman realized she had been foolish as you can imagine, but she did not stop so the trumpeter continue with Baid when to rummage, customers came up. She began shouting at them, trying to dissuade by customers from browsing or by. They simply looked at her with perhaps pity, and certainly with utter confusion. Eventually, the woman drove off while flipping me the finger. She shouted. God Does Not Love You. Once again, many of you will take that story in amazement, Crosby, this attitude out there is becoming more and more common. And they're becoming more and more emboldened. Bashing trump and bashing trump's supporters is now. Sport for many on the left. And the fact that they learned during the protests that all of the rules that apply to everyone else social distancing. Calvin can't do this can't do that. Don't apply to them. The behavior will continue to get worse. Everything that I've been describing here is going to get worse until somebody decides that they're going to object to it. Try to stop it. which as I say eventually will happen because it will have to happen. But. I don't see it happening anytime soon at a time. Around.

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99. Four Black LGBTQ+ Lives Lost feat. Beyond the Rainbow: True Crimes of the LGBT

Reverie True Crime

31:15 min | 2 weeks ago

99. Four Black LGBTQ+ Lives Lost feat. Beyond the Rainbow: True Crimes of the LGBT

"I'm brett and i'm alice and together. We host a true crime. Podcast called the prosecutors every week. We bring our perspective as prosecutors to some of the toughest cold cases of all time disappearances murder mayhem. You name it wo- cover it said join us for a true crime podcast with a different point of view because we are though prosecutors. This episode is brought to you by the slashing cast podcast network learn more at slash cast dot net. Welcome to revelry chew crime. I'm your host. Hey today's episode is a very special collaboration with my great friends. Cj of the podcast beyond the rainbow true crimes of the lgbt. I you'll hear her. Tell a story about paris. Cameron allante davis and timothy blanche. Taylor and then i will tell you. The story of yvonne yung also want to make a quick announcement about the amanda pierce series. For some reasons that will hopefully camry. I have put the series on hold for maybe two weeks but we will be back at it as soon as possible. Please keep amend his family in your thoughts priors in good. Bob's whatever it is that you do Asking that you please do so. So now. I will let c. j. get started thanks page. Many of us have grown up in a society that taught us that being gay bi or trans is not normal in society. We're told it as bad or sick to be anything but attracted to the opposite sex. What this has done is to make us fear anything different than the normal. We've learned it. Breeds an internalized homo or trans phobia. I remember when i was seventeen. I worked at a softball complex. I played softball at that same complex. But when i wasn't working or playing my mom. And i would go and watch some of the games. I'd point out the really butch looking lesbians on the field as if my mom couldn't tell and i'd call them sh- ihms as she him. It wasn't very nice. I believe it was my way of deflecting. The truth about who i was i went on to live in. Denial of who. I was for another nine years but i still felt attraction to some women. That's the other misconception. I'd like to clear up. Just because someone's a lesbian doesn't mean she wants or is attracted to all women like game. Men aren't attracted to all men for us. And i think i can speak for most of the lgbtq community with this like heterosexual people. There has to be some sort of chemistry. It's not all physical and it's not all emotional but it's a combination of the two naysayers would ask me then. Why aren't you attracted to men. Honestly i am to a degree well then. Cj you must be bisexual or if it were the south. I'd be bisexual that was for you page. Nope i'm elizabeth. Oh i can think bradley. Cooper is hotter than fuck and i could even use my hall pass with him for one night but in reality first off. I'm not going to score bradley cooper second. I can only envision myself spending every aspect of my life with another woman. Should i ever happen to meet the right one. As i've said before. I believe people are a little more sexually fluid than they know. They are both men and women but that concept can be very confusing for some people who are not willing to live there truths it can be frightening and angering. We've learned in some of the other pass cases i've covered it can destroy someone inside and it can make someone kill another because of their own self hatred nineteen year old devon robinson lived directly next stored to a gas station food mart. Type shop the early morning hours of saturday may twenty fifth two thousand and nineteen. Devin was hanging out in front of the gas station. Something he normally did when he was bored or trying to stay out of trouble or if he needed a quick soda and a bag of doritos. Twenty one year old davis in twenty year. old timothy. blanchard also happened to be at the gas station. When devon was there in a lengthy timothy's company was a very cute girl. The girl was about devon's agent. She approached him. Her name was paris. Cameron parish was a twenty year. Old trans woman peres. Thought devon was hot and she told him as much she and devon exchange some flirtations and she told them she was on her way to a nearby party for some freaky fun. He asked her about the party. And that's when paris took the opportunity to invite him three years prior to this night. Detroit had launched project greenlight project green lights program that hooked up. Cctv at some of the gas stations and streets where there was high risk for crime videos were captured of the interaction between devon in paris. Devin walked towards her then away from her like he was leaving and then back to her then away again then back to her like he was unsure or perhaps he was even conducting some kind of mating dance. Finally paris left for the party with her. Two friends allante and timothy devon's leaving towards his home not long later. Devonish is viewed on camera. Again he's walking towards the party. Witnesses say devon who identifies as a straight man had several sexual encounters at the party that night and one of the encounters was with paris after devon left the party. Some of the partygoers said devon had a blank almost lost. Look on his face. He's again seen at the gas station on his way. Home he spitting in. He's dry heaving something at the party. Apparently didn't set well with him again. He's seen on the footage walking off towards his home about an hour later of figure with the same build as devon robinson clad in a black hoodie is seen on cctv. The figure is running towards the house party within minutes. The door to the party is kicked in by the hooded man. The man begins shooting a gun. He's brought with them. I people were shot before the assailant fled the party. The figure in the hoodie is seen again on the project. Greenlight video he's running towards devon's home with five people shot at the party to the victim survived. Three of them had succumb to their injuries and died young gay man i had mentioned earlier. Were two of the murdered victims. The third person murdered was paris cameron. Paris was born under the sign. Leo in nineteen ninety eight. She described by friends is a flower. She thrived being around people who loved her. She was energetic and vibrant. They said paris was sensitive. Compassionate protective loving. Paris was a dancer and she loved to vogue. That's the type of dance from queer ball culture that you can see portrayed on the show pose. Paris was good at it too. She enjoyed cooking and studying cosmetology and she loved to watch reality television. Especially bad girls club and rupaul's drag race. Paris biological family loved her but they struggled with her being trans and this was very hard for paris to understand the kind of love they offered. All paris really wanted was a family to love and accept her fully for who she was her ex boyfriend. Jordan had said that paris lived with him and his mom for a while while they were together he said paris had a huge heart in the transition from lovers. Two friends was really easy with her. Their love for each other was still there. The relationship just look differently. Jordan's mom said she was a sweet girl but she had a nasty habit of leaving her lashes in the bathroom jordan. Finished by saying he knows peres advocating right. Now in heaven to legalize twerking jevon robinson was arrested and charged with three counts of first degree murder and two counts of attempted murder at his trial. The prosecution believed the victims. Were murdered because of trans and homophobia but let's face it most trans in homophobic people suffer from internalized self hatred and it's because of the fear. Society is train them to have against lgbtq people in most cases. The person suffering from the self hatred. Just can't deal with their feelings of attraction. Oh my god that might mean they are. -kay this episode. There are no laws. Banning trans and homophobic panic defenses in the state of michigan where devon's trial took place at the end of the trial. Jury found devon guilty of three counts of premeditated first degree murder. He was also found guilty of two counts of assault with the intent to murder and felony firearm possession. The judge sentenced the teenager to three life terms in prison with no chance of parole to add to that. He received ten to twenty years for assault with the intent to murder for each of the to injured people at the party and another ten years for possession of a firearm devin robinson will have a good long time to sit and reflect about his choices that took the lives away from three young. Lgbtq people to be quite honest. I was a little surprised. Devon was convicted of premeditated first degree murder to me. Has killing. Seemed to be a little impulsive. Not very well thought out but the jury saw it differently. I've come to tell you. The story of yvonne yom a young transgender male who was brutally murdered in wisconsin. Unfortunately as most cases go it was so hard to find a lot of information about yvonne which always makes me sad. But i did my best. With what i could find. Let's get started at twenty two years old and twenty. Thirteen yvonne yung. A transgender male was a local milwaukee. Rapper he went by the name of young. Lt was always performing rap shows and recording music. Yvonne had learned how to market his music amp promote shows. He was so passionate about all of it. Many sources say that even though his music was about partying that nobody really saw him doing things that he rapped about saying that yvonne didn't subscribe to much of the thug image yvonne and twenty six year old billy griffin were at the house they shared when they heard the doorbell rain. Twenty seven year. Old victor stewart. Thirty seven year. Old ron allen. Twenty three year old devon seabury and nineteen year old ashanti. Mcallister were the ones waiting on the other side of the door they were in the chicago based gang called the black p stones when the four men came into the home. They made their way to the kitchen. They were all hanging out and eventually an argument commenced sources say that billy believed yvonne had conspired with these men to have their home robbed. Allegedly all the men told billy he could be in the gang again if he murdered. Yvan billy told the cops that they all began to swing punches on yvonne because they claimed that he couldn't be trusted they all took yvonne down to the basement where they strangled him with a chain covering and duct taping his head and face with plastic bag until he was unconscious. These men began to be ambassador. Yvonne with tools. Billy claims that he cannot stand to watch all of that any longer and went back upstairs by his account. He says he overheard the other men saying they had to make sure. Yvonne was dead followed by three gunshots of a semi automatic handgun. Ashanti mcallister supposedly was the one who shot evan. At least three times. Billy said that everyone scrub the basement cleaned with bleach. Rolled up yvonne's body into a curtain sheet hauled his body and to victor's wife's car and then to a dumpster near an apartment which later that night they set the dumpster ablaze. Yvonne's mother only knew that her son didn't show up for work on january first was strange and out of character for him. He didn't even show up to come visit her as he normally would and she couldn't get in touch with him on january second his mom annette fouled missing persons report with the milwaukee police department yvonne's roommate billy griffin told police that yvonne when outside their house ten thirty that night january first that he got into a car and never came back unbeknownst to the police his mom and many others. Yvonne had been tortured and killed that day. Yvonne's family immediately began to post missing flyers everywhere. They even went on television hoping that others would help them find yvonne coincidence or maybe not to other young men had vanished earlier. That new year's day downtown after drinking with some friends the milwaukee police officers darna going down all avenues working with the puzzle pieces they had and finally they began to realize that billy griffin had lied to them. Yvonne's mom net stumbled upon a cell phone. Were billy griffin said that yvonne had allegedly gotten into someone's car. The last call made on the phone was january. First when she turned in the phone to the police they were able to trace it. Back to victor and ashanti. The police decided to question victor's wife and she said that victor had taken off with her car without her permission on the first and when he came back on the morning of the second it had an md bleach bottle inside and the smell of bleach in the car was so strong. Victor's wife proceeded to grab the bleach bottle and put it under her sink at home. Police would later on duct tape from debasement of billy and yvonne's and vickers fingerprints prints were all in the car. According to authorities they say that the basement was allegedly wipe down and scrubbed with bleach which pointed to the bleach bottle found in victor's wife's car. And it did match up with what billy said. Dna blood a chain and burned clothing were collected at the crime scene billy griffin and victor stewart reportedly confessed to the police. The authorities went and searched a landfill on twenty third or some sources. Say the twenty eighth because by the time they were given this information the dumpster had already been picked up and emptied seventeen days prior at a transfer station being transported to the huge landfill in menominee falls or quite possibly another land veal. Authorities were examining a two hundred two hundred feet area of the landfill with the help of cadaver dogs after thirteen days. A funding nothing. The search was called off. Even though the police did not have a body they along with prosecutors were hopeful that since they gathered a lot of evidence at the crime scene and had statements from the murderers. It was sure to secure a conviction in this horrendous case. All of the men were arrested and charged for yvonne's murder. A court hearing was held on january. Thirty first twenty thirteen all. The men pled not guilty to first degree intentional murder. These are the trial dates that were set for the defendants. Billy griffin was on june tenth. Twenty thirteen ron. Joseph allen and ashanti. Mcallister were on june twenty four. Victor stewart's was on july first and devon l. Seabury was on july eight. Victor stewart and devon seabury were the state's primary cries witnesses in the trial of t mcallister. Victor devon decided to take the deal pleading guilty to second degree reckless homicide in return for testifying for the state. Victor and devon said that the two of them as well as a shanty. An ron. Were driving to billy. Griffin's place on january first searching for marijuana ashanti and ron started scuffling with yvonne when victor the gang general got his gun and fired a bullet into the kitchen floor. Victor said that this was to assert his authority. He also claimed that when yvonne was being led down to the basement ashanti than the gun which was a twenty two semi automatic silver handgun. Victor said that he and billie stayed upstairs to smoke weed. The gun in question was actually stolen from bruce. Christopher he said ashanti robbed the gun from his house one. A shanty has stayed there. New year's eve. Bruce said he did not know of the black he stones gang. Even though victor said a member bruce faced a felony charge of being in possession of a firearm and ashanti's trial gang tactics were the main focus point both lawyers us facts about the chain of command in gangs and strategies to prove or the defense attorneys case disprove intent and for the defense attorney to debate available. Evidence ashanti's attorney. Tom erikson argued that the phone trace to ashanti which was found outside of yvonne. Young home was really the phone used by all of the members of the gang on the state stateside assistant. Da grant hubner talked about the horrors of retaliation and that along would cause victor and devon statements. They gave to the police to be contradictory. Victor was asked quote. What is the pace stones punishment for cooperating with police. Victor replied death the assistant. Da went on to insist ashanti. Absolutely shot yvonne with intent to kill and the basement as ron suffocated him with the plastic bag and choked him out with a hefty metal. Chain all the while. Ashanti had yvonne at gunpoint at the end of his statement the assistant. Da said quote a shanty. Mcallister was ready willing and able to assist in the murder of young. That's party to a crime. That's guilty attorney. Erickson debated that there wasn't even evidence of a shanties alleged role in the murder or proof that he had even been in the basement at all. Erickson pointed out discrepancies. And victor and devin stories and went on to name ten differences between their stories in his closing statement. Speaking to the jury attorney erickson ask them to think about how. Victor and devon are ruthless and cut deals for a lesser charge. Telling the jury that could be motivation for them. To deceptively testify attorney erickson also gave an alternate story to what happened in the basement. He said victor was the one who shot yvonne young. The other gang members he said were forced to quote toe. The party line and makeup line is protecting victor because they were afraid for their lives if they want against tim. Da grant hubner replied that there was no dna or fingerprints tying any of the men who were charged to that basement because it had been cleaned with leach. There was nothing at the time to link dna to the gun because they hadn't found it and yvonne's body had not been found either however there were fingerprints on victor's wife's car that belonged to shanty which was used as proof that he was complicit. Ashanti never testified in his own defense. He was convicted of first degree. Intentional homicide when judge wagner told the jury's verdict all shanty could do was rub his face with his hands shake his head ashanti's mother and other members of the family had been watching the trial week and when the verdict was read they were speechless. Da grant hubner was the prosecutor and all of the trials. Ron allen was sentenced to life in prison with no possibility of parole billy griffin. I had a mistrial and then the judge sentenced him to seven and a half years in prison. Devon berry was sentenced to eight years in prison and seven years of extended supervision. Victor stewart was sentenced to sixteen years in prison and seven years on parole after that in the show notes. There will be a lane to the case tags for the state versus mcallister because some of the guys began to say shanty was not even they are and not involved but they all agreed to testify against him because he was the youngest and they thought he wouldn't get as much time arm. All of their statements were allegedly lies. So this is a little bit from case. Tax dot com. It says devon seabury affidavit offered a second motive namely that devon seabury falsely accused ashanti mcallister at trial because an agreement was reached among witnesses. That a sean t would take the blame for mr yvonne young's murder because he was the youngest person in the group and would face the least punishment if convicted this alleged motive is similarly conclusively. The affidavit does not identify the witnesses referenced or explain when they reach an agreement or where the agreement was made or how they communicated the agreement among themselves. Additionally as the state contends the alleged agreement does not constitute a feasible motive for devon see berries testimony against ashanti mcallister neither devon seabury nor the other co actors in this case testified in a way that left ashanti to take the blame for the homicide. Devon himself testified at ashanti's trial. That victor sewer ron allen. Anna shanty all played significant roles in the crime. Devin seabury described. Ron allan suffocating. The victim and devin seabury that. While ron allen and ashanti mcallister carried out the actual killing the homicide was orchestrated by victor stewart. For his part. Victor stewart testified that at the time of the homicide. He was quote running things that he pushed yvan young away while he begged for help and that yvonne was then strangled by ron and shot by shanti run. Allen testified at his own trial that victor stewart directed the other gang members to commit the murder that victor ordered ron to choke yvonne. And that ron allen obeyed the record is thus abundantly clear that neither devon seabury other. Witnesses scapegoated ashanti mcallister accordingly. Devon's see berries affidavit simply does not state a feasible allegation that he implicated shanty and furtherance of a plan to make him take the blame for yvonne. Young's murder moreover. The recantations lacked circumstantial guarantees of trustworthiness. And that is from case tax dot com during the media coverage of the search as well as the trial yvonne gender was disrespected. The media called yvonne by she or his actual birth name and other things that are super disrespectful to transgender people. Some outlets apologized and corrected errors. And some do not. It's so important that all of us that tells stories of transgender men and women whether it's on a small scale or whether you're writing a book magazine news radio tv etc. We all must do our part to make sure we are saying the correct pronouns and names and not using their birth names unless it's possibly a part of the story for example if a person was murdered for being a trans man or woman and let's say they were born with the name patrick but then we should talk about. They're transitioning process. And how a lot of these murders occur simply because they are transgender. The trans panic. Defense is also used way too much as we saw an past episode of mine about jennifer law day in this case as far as i could find all of these men thought yvonne was a man and this murder supposedly did not have to do with the fact that he was transgender. His mother a net new and a few of his close friends and family and they were just so supportive of him and they loved him so much to this day. None of evan yong's remains have been discovered over the years yvonne's mom and net has said quote. My son was a good person. And there's nothing that anyone can tell me that justifies what they did to him and quote. Thank you so much for reasoning to today's special episode. I also want to thank c. J. for coming on the show. I absolutely love you and your podcast until next time. Stay safe and take care.

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Ben Wikler

Two Broads Talking Politics

24:01 min | 1 year ago

Ben Wikler

"Hi This is matthew and I was born in menominee falls Wisconsin and you're listening to two broads talking politics part of the DEM cast podcast network. Hey everyone it's those e from talking politics as usual. I'm here with my co host. Kelly Hey Kelly and joining us. Today is Ben Wexler. He is the chair of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin Haven et. That'd be Hey Kelly. Thanks so much for forever man. Thanks for joining us so before we started recording you started telling me a little bit about sort of your background and how you became the chair of the Democratic Party. Can you Taylor listeners a little bit about yourself sure so I am from Madison Wisconsin where I live now with Democratic Party. Wisconsin is headquartered actually lived in the House House. Today grew up in my mom and Stepdad moved at about two blocks down the road. I've little kids so I grew up. Here was involved in politics really starting as a kid. Ah when I was eleven my godmother became the first American Indian woman to win congressional primary and I volunteered on her campaign and I put up guard signs and stuff envelopes and just totally got the bug and intern for Senator Russ Feingold and volunteered for a state rep who ran for Congress artists knows and high school Adams Terry Baldwin. She's now the US senator from Wisconsin and just kind of fell in love with progressive politics activism and I left town down for college and worked in politics and activism continuously since then most recently for found org. I'm where I was the director and really involved in the fight against repeal the affordable notable character in an effort to flip the house twenty eighteen. I I spent a lot of last year pullman Wisconsin volunteering eventually for Governor Levers and the Democrats running running statewide here and my wife and I had long dreamed of moving back to my home. She's from Arkansas but we we decided to move back last year and then I learned that are the previous they were kind of Cardi. Wisconsin decided not to run for a third term and I love a big fight and they want to turn by state blue and decided to run it was like June second so and my fourth month of the job now that's awesome congratulations and I'm also from Madison though it's pretty exciting to be talking to you but I I think sometimes people think of Wisconsin for some reason. Maybe it's you know the legacy has got locker. Think of Wisconsin is being a very conservative conservative state but Wisconsin's pretty purple. Can you talk a little bit about kind of the political landscape in Wisconsin right now absolutely I you know I grew up at I. I still feel like in my heart. Wisconsin is a very progressive state is the birthplace of the progressive movement. It's the the Republican Party was founded here. As a kind of radical AH Anti Slavery Party before it became a prohibitive today we had so many of the great progressive actions in this country have come out of Wisconsin. The the new deal was basically built by WISCONSINITE. S- we train eared worker's compensation laws paying public sector union organizing public radio AH domestic violence protections in the like all these different things came out of Wisconsin and if you pull the public they're still pretty pretty progressive on issues but what's happened. since citizens united is this flood of dark money. That's come into our state. The coke brothers have used it as a petri dish. There's this moment where Scott Walker governor rents priebus with the White House Staff Paul Ryan the Speaker of the house at this kind of you know Republican dark triad and they took an ax to all the things that had allowed the progressive tradition in the state to to grow so they make their campaign finance laws to essentially limit your participation by by labor unions or public support organizations and allow unlimited donations from individuals to to the state parties which allowed billionaires to pour money into the Republican Party to fund these Republican takeover efforts. They put in place voter. Id Laws that bar about two hundred thousand voters in twenty sixteen which which is about ten times the margin of victory that trump had they put it right to work laws and attend a smash the power of unions to organize. I they changed voter registration rules so that a student organizers on campus couldn't register students from all over the state at one gerrymandering cure is just beyond belief at the the degree to which mechanically ESPEC- preferences result in representations in the state legislature and all of those ways they put our democracy and chains they put it in in a system that didn't allow public well Detroit into public policy and that's what we're up against so we have a state with very conflicted electric in the last five elections. Wisconsin has gone for a percentage point less. You're the closest country in two thousand and four I we were famously wanted to very close states and most critical states in twenty sixteen. I'm we had the zigzag in the middle where Baba one by tournament Walker run by the time that will buy more and by the time the Walker run by todd so we're very jump ball and if you go out across the state it's it's such a polarized state politically and people that are potential swing voters tend to not be interest. They tend to be conflicted. They have strong opinions that lend them on both sides of the partisan divide and for that reason it's it's it's the turn battleground state is apt profoundly in Wisconsin because it really is about a fight to define what the what the what elections are about and then find all the folks who are on your side. Make sure they all get to the polls. There's it's you know you kind of have to have all of strategy as far as persuasion and turn out registering and engaging folks haven't voted or drop off voters and making sure all your supporters get the Bulls and trying to to reach out to folks were having second thoughts about trump and trump is trump strategies pretty clear. He's trying to turn out every possible. Trump supporter suppress everybody else so we have to both friends so I think we I probably would agree that. Wisconsin is one of the very most important states in a twenty twenty. Maybe all is when we in twenty when he eighteen we're doing our politics of individual states episodes. We started with Wisconsin because it was so interesting and important politically and you've just laid out the reasons that it is such a battleground. What's what's the strategy. You know what what does it mean to do all of the above. How how do you organize in a state. Hey where you need to be both persuading and getting out the vote in. There's a lot of different kinds. You know there's there's cities urban areas. There's very rural areas in Wisconsin. How do you organize is in a state like a great question. I love that you're asking about how that organized because I think the Democrats. We have this idea that there's some magic combination of words win. An election and people ask speak a lot of like party meetings and some of those people ask what is the message. What is the message that is going through and to me organized. We're GONNA key because the best messengers people from from one's own community so are are the corporate strategy is building neighborhood teams teams in every corner of Wisconsin and cities suburbs in rural areas organizing in the African American and Latino Mung and tribal nations. I'm working in the far north of the state your in every corner of the State to build teams of folks who are in their own communities who talk talk to their neighbors and to do this not just a month before the election but we've been actually organizing continuously in the field since the spring of twenty seventeen so we now have arguably the the strongest grassroots field program of any state party in the country and we don't have any state wide campaigns on twenty twenty. It's it's really it's a local races there. There'll be some congressional races and then the presidential race is is the only State Wide Battle the fall twenty twenty and to build up to that what we're focused on is making sure that there are people who have built longstanding relationships with all the voters identify new voters in their own towns talking to kind of party chair today rural county Barron County Wisconsin and he was out at a count of two thousand two hundred twenty one people last weekend and talked to dozens of people for whom we didn't have data previously about are they landed and he said that the Difference Between Twenty Sixteen win at the doors people were just couldn't bring themselves over the democratic kind of candidate for one reason or another to now I now people were it was love this president he was finding new volunteers at the doors the people where they'd never had any involvement with kind of credit before truck drivers and waitresses and people that trump thinks of as as his his base white working class voters. I there's a ton of voters out there and I think Democrats we've fallen into the trap where we write some communities off as being too who are hard to reach and we take for granted as being definitely you know turning up Democrats. I think we have to show up. Respect people listened to them about the issues that they care about an inbuilt the relationship over time so it's not just a transactional you know turnout next week. I typed conversation in the last last moments and that's that's core strategy and that's on doors that across in social media and good if you're texting and all the different channels that we can use as well it's human connection with credible local messengers that starts listening and respecting people where they are as opposed to try to convince them the CAP. Where's that they were our values match and asked people to take action based on values in terms of like Upper Midwest states we mentioned before but trump won in two thousand sixteen one Wisconsin by a very very narrow margin and his popularity is pretty pretty low in Wisconsin especially relative to other rust belt states. Why do you think trump is particularly an unpopular in Wisconsin. I I'm really curious about this and if we're thinking about it I will. I will fly that they've symbols offended more popular than others but he does seem to be under water and there's you know he lost the primary here. There's tons of Republicans especially like on right wing Talk Radio in Wisconsin that just really went after trump. There's something about him that is just so UN Wisconsin the Upper Midwest. There's no nice to trump is no you know it's just an unkind person and he's sort sort of laid bare a lot of the things within the Republican movement in and world and those things are on display when he visits the state and wherever he goes but they really run counter to the best traditions and political culture of the state so I think that is a big part of it. You know the the thing that you wouldn't have to think about two thousand sixteen is that both Clinton and trump did worst famously than Romney and worse than Obama did worse than Obama the previous times and worse than George W Bush and worse than John Kerry in two thousand and four. They got her votes than five out of the previous six potential candidates so there's a lot of people who just didn't pull I guess that's the touch screen for either of those candidates and I hope that the primary process we find somebody actually clicks with the state and the way that you know that lots of lots of folks have over the years the other piece is that in the party we have to build something that can work in all weather conditions Asian so to speak and that means making sure that images on TV are not the only form of communication that people have about what's happening and I think that the you know trump's excessively is that he causes people to throw their hands up in disgust or or freak out and it really is not just about his own turn out. It's also about killing people to walk away from the whole thing and convincing people at the system is rigged that they shouldn't trust the Democratic candidate and I think there's a sense in which we'll have the job of fighting cynicism and despair as much as we have of making a case against him. You know people who don't tend not to be. It's not that the people don't care. It's that they are. They're hopeless inside out but they don't think that there's no matter and part of our job is to build that hope we do that. I think by showing that you know organizing participation can have an impact on the local level that can let her up to the national level so I'm sure that a lot of our listeners would like to know how to help out in Wisconsin Kansin. I live in Chicago where we have a lot of interesting primary fights going on but the general election won't be very very challenged in very many places so so so how can people you know. I know that it's important for people inside Wisconsin to be helping out and that the best messengers are the ones that are in the towns but what can people outside of Wisconsin risconsin due to really help the Democrats in Wisconsin. There's GonNa be a bunch of different things so I would love to quickly outlined the sort of five fights that will define in the next couple of years for this party for for what we're focused on here and then how folks can plug into each of those and I should say there's a couple of moments before the things really kick into gear. What is this fall. Were doing a huge organizing around the weekend when you're out for the election system remember second third. Remember third is the literal one year from the election marks but it's a packer game day so you don't WanNa knock doors on this concentrating packer game the number second. We'll be knocking on doors. All over the state should come join us also be doing huge peer to peer texting drives to X. Motors especially folks that we have not been in touch with before I'm so that's something people can do from wherever they ar and we'll be building a system to be able to kind of training about folks to drive texting team so and I all the way through if you go to wisdom's dot org splash volunteer. There's a former you can feel like your information and the intake from west. ESPECI- volunteer goes to our organizing team so that we can then reach out the people into specific projects so this November. There'll be a moment. There'll be a special election for Steffi's district in northern Wisconsin. That's a pretty a long drive from Illinois that MINNESOTANS WANNA come over and help and folks it was constant and then we really hit the ground. These fights are the fights are I to win. The spring election and the spring election is the same as the presidential primary so April Seventh State Supreme Court rates. It's incredibly important for the future state. We'll have local races for County Board School Board that kind of thing all over the state and these presidential candidates here at the same time and we wanna use that the dress rehearsal for the general election fall which means we'll be thousands of folks how ya in their in their communities or visit joining neighborhood teams. I mean if you're paired up with local organizers you can you can help drive them. You can go to doors with them or be across the street I it is absolutely worthwhile to travel the Wisconsin to help out but do it in a way that flexing to the local infrastructure as opposed to creating a totally separate thing that might not be working from the same organizational strategy so winter spring election number one to is to inspire thousands of volunteers for the general election at our national convention so we're hosting the DNC Milwaukee next summer. They'll be foulland's of volunteers. They're twelve to fifteen thousand volunteers at the national convention people from all over can volunteer at the National Convention. If you Milwaukee Twenty twenty dot com you can sign up as a volunteer for right now. I'm you'll get some outreach over the next few weeks and we want to use it wants to get those folks engaged and trained in organizing to turn turn up voters and the vault so when the screen inspire voters inspire volunteers in the commission. The third fight is to stop the GOP supermajority 'cause Wisconsin Republicans Publican's three seats away in each chamber of the legislature from getting a supermajority as they can override the governor's veto and that's dangerous for every policy we WANNA make care about it's dangerous because that would allow them to lock in gerrymandered maths for another decade until twenty thirty two and I have a seven year old. He'll be graduating from high school by then like we need to have democracy before that so making sure that we fight against. Gop State legislative candidates depend on comments off your bears is vital and at the same time fight number four is we have to cancel trump trump second inaugural so you know we noted where the tipping point state can the Electoral College. We have a nominee for months and months. We don't know exactly when we'll have a nominee. We have to basically build a general election campaigning operation in the absence of a candidate the state party and that's what we're that the key aspect of all the work neighborhood teams doing across Wisconsin right now. The fistfight is organized the future so that we're ready for twenty twenty two when we've got all of our statewide candidates for reelection with the US Senate race wife New maps for the State Assembly Senate and US House and we cannot let that become come like twenty ten thousand eight then lost everything in a Republican wave. We're GONNA come out of twenty twenty stronger more aligned with more skills with everyone understanding how the organized with cutting edge technologies and tactics so that we come out swinging and brought through twenty twenty two and if you've been following along that's win. Inspire Stop Supermajority cancelled trump and organiz future spells out Wisconsin. That's love it. I will pretend that was a coincidence so I noticed on twitter. You guys are hiring an executive director for the Wisconsin the Democratic Party I have to say not a whole lot of things would tempt me to move away from Chicago but I I mean that's. That's GonNa be a pretty awesome job. I will not lie. It's going to be a very intense job and so much question for state parties catch a Lotta Arrows but it will be a job for whoever is in it where they'd never ever have to wake up and wonder if there's something else that they should be doing in the world it is the stakes are enormous. We have a really strong team. We actually have two executive directors now now. We're just going to expand the leadership team. I'm so that you know I think they'll there. There are other senior leadership roles that they'll be in working with executive directors leading the team overall and it's a roller you know you can help shape the future the state and the future of the country at the same time so. I'm I we have a bunch of like really great candidates Kennedy to applied and I want to build a big diverse candidate pool as possible and then we'll have a committee hiring process that there's the field in the in the coming weeks the listeners if you've never been Wisconsin you need to come here. That's why you need to come here and camping because we have amazing stuff. This is the I've lived all over the country all over the world best place. I've ever lived hands down. Medicine is fantastic so come come and do some canvassing coleman enjoy a delicious tease Kurds. It's an are beautiful vistas. You'll love it and beer. Don't forget your ear my God. Oh my gosh but you know our wine isn't bad either. I have to say he wouldn't think that's great. It is there's so much there's so much good stuff and it really like I. I just love that raising my kids here. I live up here and there's so many other parts of the state that are still great. I like I'll be probably northrop Wisconsin a lot over the next month because of the special congressional election there when I was a candidate a can't in violence county which is the northern remember the state and it is the most like when I think of my mind like whereas they call them place. It's a beautiful place that is where I mentally go. There loons that you can hear sure they're like beautiful. Sound Basque is beautiful at northwest pine trees towering above you and somebody filtering in Ah such a great place and you know you can not only come in android here you can also stop. Republicans from smashing industry future the world and you can also build a progressive future that celebrates all the things that have made the state great big destination for twenty twenty for sure Ben. Is there anything else that you want to make sure talk about today. I would be remiss as a state party chair if I didn't flag not only here but also west of us that work slash donate up where folks can very rapidly make a big difference of what we what we do at the State party fighting. All those five fights at once is not a cheap endeavor restaffing quickly. We and we have a lot more to do on their front so if you're thinking about making a recurrence relation to something to stop trump by all means choose your favorite presidential primary candidate but you should also start investing now what it'll take to win the general election and that's that's really what we're focused on. I I sort of I think the primaries you know going. It'd be going on for however long. It takes already in the general election in Wisconsin and help to be able to really makes a difference. The last thing I'd say is that if you're in Wisconsin and I hope that anyone listening to this podcast we'll think about running for local office. There are so many offices that are open this spring and a lot of them are Republicans. Who've never faced the Challenger. We're going to be building a tool where people can find all the offices that they're eligible for and registered with us. They're they're interested in running. We'll have trainings a bunch of we can do to help support you running processes. It's extraordinarily way to be part of our democracy and frankly you could also help train volunteers and teach people turn out voters who might not otherwise vote and that could topple the visiting president so think about running for office donating volunteering I get involved and of course reading and reviewing your favorite podcast about and I just WANNA call out if you're a woman Wisconsin has a particularly really strong emerged program and they are going to be accepting new potential candidates as well so go ahead and check that out absolutely an Air Force to rent that that is terrific at emerges amazing amazing organization that we work very closely with excellent well then thank you so so much for coming on the podcast. been really excited about getting to talk to you. I I have a special place in my heart for Wisconsin. I have never had the privilege of living there but my husband husband grew up there and has family there so we're up there quite a bit anyway so maybe I will join you guys on the trail knocking doors please. Do I would be for folks in the Chicago area. I'm GONNA COME TO THE INDIVISIBLE CHICAGO SUMMIT OCTOBER FIT which they'll be posting information about so Chicago intensely. I'll be being Pittsburgh Front. I come up from Illinois about. I'd love to see all right excellent. Well thank. You Ben and we'll post all of the information don't the links that you gave us on our website as well so that people can check those out and help you send good people than's way both for volunteering and for for this executive director position you really appreciate it. Thanks for listening to to broads. Talking politics are theme song is called. Are you listening off of the album. Tom Elephant shaped trees by the Band Nouri and we're using it with permission of the band. 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Matt Rinka, Partner, Rendering Hidden Opportunities into Modern Designs  Episode 99

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Matt Rinka, Partner, Rendering Hidden Opportunities into Modern Designs Episode 99

"Welcome to episode ninety. Nine of the did happen. Podcast hosted by Mike Nella Testa in this episode. Mike Welcomes Matt Rinca architect and partner at Rinca an innovative architectural practice that connects inspiring designs with practical and functional solutions. The firm has over sixty five awards. Many from the highest levels of professional recognition including the American Institute of Architects American Society of Interior Designers and Milwaukee Business Journal. If you've been in downtown Milwaukee recently you might recognize some of Rica's latest real estate projects including the modern a thirty storey residential highrise the Milwaukee Bucks Entertainment district outside the Pfizer form and one of the newest lakefront projects. The culture. I'm Joe Donachie. Mike's podcast producer and blog collaborator. Mike cover a ton of great stuff in this episode. Like how a project that didn't take off ended up being his catalyst who met Reveres as his mentor how. He came to believe in the power of close relationships what he believes. The True Role of an architect is and much more. Frankly any anyone can design a building. An can build a building to be honest but not everyone can understand how the physical environment affects everything from someone's business to their customer to community to the environment to culture and economics architecture at least two to our firm something that goes beyond just designing a building or just building a building and I think that's that's a really important distinction and one of the reasons why we did start as one person firm and we're supposed to fifty people now we've managed. Our growth could have grown a lot bigger but it was really important to me to make sure that we were creating the team. And more importantly that team was working with the right clients and clients that actually understood what are true value. This episode is brought to you by. Hello Water. Hello Water is fiber and fuse with Zero Sugar. Five grams of fiber with five inspiring flavors. A fun and fresh delivery system to help curb appetite and promote gut health smile laugh. Live love and dance your way to a healthy lifestyle. Visit Helo wandered dot com to find a retailer near you. Hello Water Inspire Health and now. Here's Matt Rinca. Welcome to show. Thanks for having me I First of all to my listeners. I'm very grateful for having you Listening to the show today. I think we've got a treat for you with Matt Rinca. I'm super interested in learning your story. you're here today because. Scott Laurie who was on the show a number of episodes ago. I don't remember how many We had a really great discussion and one of the things that he Brought up was that he loves to work with the best people and I said what does that mean. What does that mean the best people and as he was explaining one of the examples that he came up with for me. Was You and your firm and your work so I thought to myself okay. That's what you mean. And then he was kind enough to make an introduction To us which led to you being here today so matt I started every show with the same question and that is how it happened for. You will thank you for having me on the show Mike. And thanks to Scott for the introduction and honestly Scots is. He's the best so best to listen. That's the that's what he and I both could definitely mutually agree on that We both like working with a Boston. He somebody that not only do I really respect an Meyer. But I'm also really good friends with so He's just a great guy. Yeah okay super and did the friendship come sorry to get in. The way of your answer. Did the friendship come after the work working relationship started or prior. Sorta sort of Parallel okay so I met him through several other friends of mine and We hit it off. It was serve a good chemistry between us and he does has a very unique sort of style and and I think He served we of looked at each other and said we could work together. Okay so it's been a great. I asked him about his dress code. I that's what I call stress code sort of every time. I saw him picture. He's wearing the same thing so I think sure. We share that same trait. Because I see that you've got a black shirt on forty so okay. That's what he said to forty second anyway. Okay so sorry to get in the way of your answer obsolete. So how did happen? You know it was. It was a couple things chance meeting between myself and my first client when I first Decided to do this. It wasn't Something that I had said I'm going to do and in fact It was more of a coaxing to be honest so I was working at a firm here. Milwaukee allergic firm and Designing fairly large healthcare projects around the country and one of the consultant architects. That was working on the project. Said Hey you should You should meet the sky. Been doing some work for and his name was Lee and Jolie Jolie owns a lot of real estate in downtown Milwaukee He owns roughly two million square foot of real estate but really tremendous guy. I consider him not only a great mentor. A great friend and someone that I really look up to. And he's You know he's one of the stages of real estate in the city He's I won't say but later in his life but he's built up this pretty amazing Real Estate Empire and so I had done a project for the firm that I had worked for was a high rise project design that ended up not going anywhere but at the time meaning didn't get built. It didn't get built okay. It's actually was a project on the site that eight thirty three office building. Okay where Scott Scott Welch? We're Scott Walsh. Is done design there for developer and and the property owner which which was a US bank and Joel had seen the project published in the papers and Had wondered who had done the design and so this gentleman that was kind enough to introduce me I met with Joel and his And his team Joe Is very very gracious and You know said hey this. This design's pretty pretty cool. Would you ever think about going off on your own and I said you know I've I've certainly thought about it as a professional it's something that You know a lot of young young professionals in architecture. Think about but it's a difficult task. most for firms in Milwaukee young firms don't survive and so it was something that I didn't take a very lightly I said I'd have to think about it about Were happy where I was very happy doing. Some great projects traveling and and working on some pretty amazing things around the country them but about a week later his development director reached out to me By email and said hey can I take you out to lunch and so of course So we went out to lunch and he said to me. Listen met with Joel tells you you should do something. You should really do it. So that sort of really prompted me to really consider You know jumping out on my own and hanging up my own shingle and and So I took that first step it led to you know really some great projects with Joel over the years. He's still a client that that we do a of work for as well as I'm very good friends with his son and the the development director that who still there and his team and it's just been a great relationship and I would say One of the really valuable things that Joel and that relationship That is is so important to us Taught me was the power of creating amazing and close relationships. And that's something that I've focused on over the fourteen years that we've been in business and it's something that's really carried us to work with some amazing amazing people like Scott and so we're relationship is company in fact I would say. The architecture is almost second to the relationship and experiences that we create Because of our relationships with with people so Couple things there that I wanted to follow up on first of all the sort of the the challenge that you said. Small architectural firms often face. So you're with an established firm. You get this sort of confidence booster from Jolie and maybe Maybe more than half maybe a gentle push or maybe more than gentle push What what are the challenges that that you saw or that you've seen To to getting affirm an architectural firm for example off the ground so architecture's very complicated profession. It's not necessarily just about designing buildings I would. I would say that architecture is much more about understanding an entire industry and how good design good place making creating great experiences understanding other people's business how that really is the of an architect you know. And that's only I would say small portion of an understanding the the numbers behind a project understanding how project affects neighborhood or community or a group of people or the users or the customers. It's it's a very complicated Profession and I would say you know not to to criticize architects but I will say architects typically don't understand what architecture is really about and that's something that I focus on continuously When I met in the office or working or frankly in every life is focusing on the on the fact that we're not we're not designing buildings so I mean me. Try to put my little spin on this to make sure I got it so I if I heard you right what? You're what you're saying is that there's this allure of designing a beautiful building space or whatever but if that's done without the future use or users in mind may not despite its beauty may not actually be what they need is at at my. Yeah I'll try. Try to explain like this. Frankly any anyone can design a building and you can build a building to be honest but not everyone can understand how the physical environment effects everything from someone's business to their customers to community To the environment to the culture and economics within that culture so architecture to at least two to our firm and it's something that we talk about all the time is something that goes beyond just designing a building more just building building and so I think that's that's a really important Sir distinction and one of the reasons why you know we did start as a one person firm and we're close to fifty people now and it's it's not I would say We've we've managed growth. We've we could have grown a lot baker but it was really important to me to make sure that a were creating the team and more importantly that team was working with the clients and clients that actually understood what our true value was and our true value wasn't just build a build something it was to to really understand. How could we make their business? Their customer experience. They're building within their community. Be a real asset. And how often do you find that the clients coming to you for a project have that mindset themselves or have it figured out in a way where they can communicate to you Well you know early on it was. It was a challenge And it was a challenge to even understand. Why would I was creating was different but it was. It was something that was sort of innate in how I approached Every project every client and like I said in the beginning all started. It's all it all starts with relationship and truly understanding what the client's ultimate goals are or even helping them figure out what their ultimate goals are. Frankly a lot of clients will come to us with really no idea they just have a kind of a thought or with a need or a in what. I tell people. Is THEY COME TO ARCHITECTS. Because they have a pain point or an issue that they need to resolve and sometimes getting at the root of that issue or that pain point. You really need to understand their business or who they are their clients or the experience or what's going to make their business more successful or In fact Uncover things that are complete. Maybe that they had no idea that we could really help. Or if the physical environment could could really assist with so before you start talking about design and buildings you start talking about. What do you want this? What does this need to feel like at when we're don what is the need to deserve that kind of is that how a project get started typically or very? I mean plant products. Get so complex. the way they start There's probably I could probably think of a thousand different ways that Projects have started but I would say In general at the beginning it was Getting a client to understand that maybe Their need for a new office or their need for a restaurant or Who knows right the actual need Was different than what they originally thought. And I'll give you a great example of this little small project and it was Horny goat brewing company. Remember if you remember the ball and the volume so they approached us This was probably about ten eleven years ago. They approached Approach US N me about creating Just a outdoor space They had their their Restaurant on the river down on. First Street in the Harbor District and They approached us about. We want to create a little Tiki hut for our outdoor experience and I really sort of questioned. Hey said hey you really think t- cats gonNA bring more customers or clients to to this destination all Place in the city. You're not gonNA just walk past Year restaurant and decide to go on. This is something that someone has to decide. They're going to go to. I said if you really WANNA do Something that's GonNa be destination all I said we. Let's let's think about something that will Create something new a new experience for customers that maybe they can't get In the in the city And so We had done some research at traveled a lot so one of the things that I brought to them was he would if we did like your true for you know experienced on the river with A big pavilion with outdoor bar. Fire pits Sand Volleyball Courts Concert. Stage all of that And you gotta remember this as you know Maybe a dozen years ago nothing like that existed monkey there was you know nothing like that and in fact. I would say the the restaurant experience the indoor outdoor restaurant experience didn't exist. There was no there. Were no rooftop patios and decks and things like that there was maybe that that the neighborhood bar with a one volleyball thing outside. Yeah it was for leagues there. It wasn't something that we're trying to create this other experience so so That was built and it became this very successful Outdoor restaurant space and every year was voted by a shepherd expresses the the place to go for outdoor experience and so that was a small example of how a small project that originally they thought would be just a little tiki hut on on the river. Where boaters could come and stop became a much bigger project. A much bigger vision for who they are and I'll talk about the lowlands group. So the Lowlands Group. They own the Hollander restaurants Set Trial They just opened up bucket cabin in wall. Tulsa here and Eric Wagner and Mike all the time who was one of the two partners they had been travelling around Europe and and One of the first restaurant projects we did was a was really based on taking a concept in east grand cafes in in Europe that we're all about the experience of indoor outdoor Sidewalk Street Really engaging the public engaging people enticing people to experience a very different kind of Dining experience it wasn't even about dining is more about socializing socializing with the community and your friends and so when I met them. We talked about how the restaurant experience in America was really not about socializing about going and having dinner with. Maybe you know your date or your wife or who knows right? It wasn't about the social experience around the community. And and so. We essentially embarked on creating a series of restaurants and restaurant experiences with Eric Mike. Around the city that was based on that model of engagement with the community A A social experience versus a purely a dining the needing just correctly to eat correct so cafe Centrale Cafe Benelux and Hollander. They if you look at those. Those were the first restaurants that had those outdoor spaces the rooftop dex the garage doors that opened up to the sidewalk or are everybody has not doing. And you know Were flattered by advocates. Yeah I of course but it was more important to to show that Milwaukee wins and people in Wisconsin really desired. That and that the physical environment could could really strengthen the social experience of the community through projects projects like Cafe Benelux and the Hollander and Centrale. And so those are some of our earlier projects where Again we took the idea of a restaurant with we said. Hey listen For this to be even more successful. How do we truly capture an unmet desire that I think people want and people are seeking out? And how can how can a a restaurant experience become part of that and become a bigger experience for community And so that's those are a couple of examples and that's really flourish into you know some really great projects The the forty two project that Scott. Laurie work down in Scotland. The pizza man restaurants if you look at those All very different experiences. Unique ways of of Creating Social Environments for community. That not only will they will Keep them coming back but You know provide them uniqueness as well and so. We are fortunate enough Recently to to finish up the the bucks steer district project and you know that was nominal by the way. Thank you great. Yeah that's sort of the I would say the ultimate opportunity to take something that could have just been you know an outdoor space and buildings and to really understand What we as Milwaukee would wanna you know what and the team in our office Art Now our challenge was to create something that we would want to go to like the easy way could have the easy way could have been taken there because it would be successful correct pretty much no matter what because you've got long as the teen stay successful exactly right so but but that's not what that wasn't an credit to the to the team ownership to on that right bucks are really really amazing Ownership Group and The challenged us to think even bigger and and Alex Lazarie told me. Hey listen this needs to be the living room for the city. I said if this is GonNa be the living room for the city. I said this needs to connect to the greater neighborhoods and so the the way the project was designed and the connectors became almost more important than plaza space. The Plaza Space Very Important obviously mentioned the Pfizer form. But the connector. The Beer Garden in in that connector too old world third street the way the the gateway happens on the north side and the weights are flares out to the south was all designed to to make sure that was a very inviting place where even when there's nothing going on would invite people to to at least walk through. Yeah so let me get back to the starting of the firm when Joel sort of plant the seed and talked about some of the challenges with newer firms and. I'm just wondering two things one. Is You know economically. How do you get an architectural firm off the ground because it seems lead times and that kind of stuff are dairy long and then there's this whole thing about you're an architect and now you're you still an architect but now you're a business owner as well so I'm interested in your experience with both of those things sure architecture creating Firm is not all that expensive The programs are very expensive But really it's getting the right people and You know as a professional as professionals are payrolls. That's our biggest chunk of expense and I would say Getting the right professionals is was definitely the the most challenging part Especially early on because as as a young firm You're trying to make sure that you're growing with the right people and the right people that will that the clients not only Will engage with respect but will also understand that we're trying to grow something that is continuing to evolve and change and develop so I'd say that's the most challenging part in terms of of just growing affirm as a business owner I I'll be honest. I sort of made it up. Okay I have no formal business. Training and in fact traditionally architectural firms are very poorly run from a business standpoint. I will say it was important for me to make sure that the the business even early on was something that was successful. Monetarily is because is important to to the employees that listen were financially stable and we're going to continue to be financially stable and so making the right decisions. Everything from being very frugal about a lot of things and understanding not to be frugal. Were very challenging to to figure out. But I would say we Been a very successful business as well from at least from a I would say if you're NBA individual. That understands the numbers I've had discussions about numbers with with people who understand that and every time we they they look at these numbers they say. That's pretty that's pretty good okay. So you know we've been we've been very successful and I would credit that to the hard work of of our team We work extra hard to make sure that we're staying ahead. we've been to be perfect. Lantis We've been properly profitable every single year that we've been in business including through the great recession so the recession was a difficult time for the entire construction industry and firms did close during that time and We're fortunate enough to have some big projects. Proceed during that time one was the modern which is the high rise apartment building we did with Rick Barrett but that That put a lot of people to work to so in the construction industry so We've been fortunate enough and I would say credit due to our clients As well as to our team to make to to keep in Successful every every year. Yeah particularly when that the you know the the great recession hit when you were still in your infancy really I mean. I think he started in two thousand six. That's right so two thousand eight nine and in the construction industry lasted longer than probably most other industries. Maybe into the early tens or maybe a little bit like maybe two thousand twelve or something. So yeah to have an every project that time as least as I recall even the ones that we're moving forward we're moving forward. Precariously lenders were not. It's just before that lenders. Were really happy to to bank real estate as I recall and development and you know hundred percent financing maybe even over if the appraisal was was good and then that just you know the skids hit really really quickly there so So good for you for being in a great spot there but you mentioned before that sometimes architecture is really second creating having amazing relationships with people and I did want to get back to that because it's always interesting to me just like I had asked Scott. What do you mean by best? What what do you do to create amazing relationships? What what's there's all kinds of ways to build relationships and some people are are magical added. Another people aren't how what's your what's your what's your key to creating amazing relationships. You know I think number one is not taking yourself too seriously and One of the informal things that we have around the offices we take our business series seriously but not ourselves and I think the relationships that we have are always based on trust doing and following through the things that you say you're GonNa do always and in fact We always strive to overdeliver. And that's something that we tried to do consistently and that's it's to the point where I think it's It's something that continues to even when I would say the the need doesn't necessarily seem like we need to do that. whether it's a small project that seems maybe less significant than a larger project In fact that those are the projects I always say. Hey listen we have to over deliver on everything because take it. Yes right if we take on a and in fact because of our relationships The relationships being more important than a single project we will. We do a lot of small projects for the clients that we've had for for many many years and so We we've been fortunate enough to work with some pretty amazing companies around the state associated. Banc Know Wisconsin largest Wisconsin based bank really amazing people the leadership. There is phenomenal There's a reason why they've done so well over the years and we've been fortunate enough to to Be a their architectural partner for very long time Northwestern mutual you know the the the the companies that we feel have a great vision for for the city are great Corporate contributors we were. That's the those are the companies that we seem to fit very well with okay. It's funny you mentioned Associated Bank in this images came into my head. You and I were actually at You know a planning meeting where you were. You were ahead of me Because Associated Bank was built this was in Minami falls they are building a new branch and menominee falls and I was developing a project in menominee falls as well so you and I. It went fine. I went second. It went perfect as well but then later that whole project blew up and it was. It became like the the worst experience of my life but anyway just a total aside but now that you brought that up. I remember that you were there. must been an appleton avenue or something where they were building. That bridge doesn't matter but okay okay so well thanks for that. I was just wondering like it's easy for people to say. Oh we you know. We create amazing experiences or we have amazing relationships. But when you ask what does that actually mean. What what what defines that for you. It's nice to have that structure built and I like the we take our work seriously but not ourselves. That's I should do more of that. I have to say that. I don't think I take my self too seriously but I certainly don't get nuts. A it's not an outward sort of silliness that I probably should should Damore of did you. When when did you know you wanted to become an architect matt? Was it something that started real early or was it pivot that you made at some point It it's actually very early In my life I'm adopted adopted by to a great school teachers. My mom was a kindergarten teacher. My Dad was French and music teacher and were very very interested in making sure that it was exposed to as possible. I was younger which has so fortunate to to have them as parents. We actually grew up in a solar home that was designed by architect From MSI and a was built into a hillside. And I remember as a little kid there would be students from. Msi you'll be on. That would come through. And they would measure the sun readings and the temperatures and different areas of the house and the entire houses of fairly large house about three thirty five hundred square feet entirely heated by one fireplace. So you can imagine that one fireplace and The greenhouse that was attached to the front but it was so it was perfectly situated and designed to capture the sun utilize the son in a very from design sampling in a very sort of sustainable way. So the the fireplace which the flu ran through. The those kind of trial will house. All three lev- radiated heat through rated three heat but at the same there was a a greenhouse that face south so during the day the greenhouse would heat up And then there'd be vents that my dad would open up at night until that hot air would come into the House and essentially you know work. Its way up to the to the upper floor and so very the house itself was really well. Designed the local code at the time required the house to have electric Radiant panels in the ceiling as a at least a secondary heat source. I think my parents turn that. Turn it on once In the entire time that we live there so half the house was underground so to speak out into a hill. I've seen homes like that and I don't think I've seen the salt was the solar on the roof or was it as no solar panels. It was just the way the the windows and there were there were skylights as well as clear. Story Windows at Essentially reflected light into the house and kept the the house warm so you had the house that everybody talked about correct. Yeah Yeah Okay. Yeah it was very and honestly the way you know. We should be designing houses today. The side commentary you know but that piqued my interest very early About how the physical environment can be more than just a shelter or just a you know a house that because it didn't look like My friends houses right. It looked at it was a very unique house and so just the experience of growing up in that house was really instrumental at. I think the way I looked at the profession that I wanted to get into. So were you in high school where you sketching. Where you what what was. How is it starting to manifest everything from sketching to You know being creative about You know tackling everything so I think. My Dad wanted me to be an artist. I knew that I wasn't an artist. I knew I wanted to do something. that Was much more. I would say analytical as well as You know that's the unique thing about architecture. It's it's how do you? How do you take creativity and sort of Problem Solving and put those together to create Something unique or Something that will better serve the client and so I knew that was the sort of the area that challenge that I wanted was Wasn't just to be creative. It was really understood how to solve problems. And that's something that Architecture allows you to. Do you consider yourself artists now. The reason I ask because in my at least the way I understand. The Term Art has been expanded to essentially cover. Anything that's remotely creative is artistic now where before it was sort of like art. Was you know paintings and sculptures? And maybe maybe poems. Now it's everything is art. So has your thinking on that evolved as well or do you still. That's a good question I would say. I don't view myself that way And I think it's mainly because you know the the architecture and creativity Comes out of solving real issues that I don't really necessarily look at as doing aren't I look at as And I think it it ends up being art if when you create something. Great physically it. It certainly ends up being Art because I just don't see myself as an artist okay I see I guess I see myself as more of a facilitator And I would say within Own Office I my job is to really help. Facilitate good things happening and mentoring People in my office to Figure out how to solve those problems. Creatively. And those are that's really my job now and so As I mentioned you know we can't be doing what we're doing without some pretty amazing people. Yeah that Are Now a part of our team and In my job is to really help. Create the the the structure to to make sure that our work continues to be Amazing and something that clients are coming to us for specifically and helping Individuals within the company grow and become leaders. And do you. Do you find that. That's something that's sort of unique to your firm or is it universal in the in the architecture community and what I mean is the did you find. Most those people approach projects the way you just described or do you think or define that. There's a lot of people who approaches like I know. What's I know what this should look like and I'm going to be very rigid with you about my designer my vision or or whatever I think I think a lot of firms do approach it that way and again. I'm not here to tell or other architects do their run. Their businesses are run their companies or how to architect. We just do things the way that I feel is best for for us. And we've you know fortunately hit a a good sort of nature nerve in the in at least in the clients that we do work for that are looking out. I'll say this way. I think the idea of sort of telling somebody or impressing on them your serve fishing for how they should live or how they should work or to me is a is a little silly because frankly unless you're living in their or your officing in their office who cares right. Yeah who cares what right the real challenge is to is to sort of get out of yourself and say what. How can I help? Make this physical environment really worked for you and really work for your customer and really worked for your employees and so the challenge that we seek out On every project is truly understanding. What the real problems are that we need to solve. And how can we solve them? Very very creatively so that they can enhance the work environment for a company's employees or an experience for their customers. Or you know what every other what other problems may exist that you know we find. A lot of times is the challenge. That challenge goes far beyond just the physical it really becomes about helping our clients understand You know maybe they need to think a little bit differently about their the way they do things because the fiscal environment can be either a good support makers America mechanism for that or deterrent. And so you know I think the world right now is changing so quickly. And I'll use the banking world. For example right there allowed disruptors disruptors out there right now that can turn any industry on its head and that's happening in the banking world right now and the the companies that understand that and realize that they can't just do what they've been doing for the last twenty years. Those those are the companies that are going to survive and they're going to understand how to best utilize their assets and their dollars to make sure that their companies thrive in and honestly. That's our job. I drive this to not just build a building but to help them now gate through the changes that are counseling occurring in. That's occurring in every industry right now. It can't be a success unless success for the client ultimately that's exactly right otherwise they just then it is just building things. If it's just a building the building could make it could be a failure or who knows but If it's something that goes beyond just the building you know The the buildings have become more than just places to do business. They could have become You know bran statements. You name it right any what industry and so I think that's really. That's the way that we look at it. And in order for us to our job we need to create strong relationships with clients because for us to be of most value as you know as a company that can help shape the future right for for their business. We can't do that properly without really understanding where they're headed. Sure you mentioned you were adopted in my understanding is right you. You were born and grew up initially in Seoul South Korea do you. Do you have any recollection of your time there? I think you came here when you were five. And do you have any recollection of your time there? Do you have any connection to family? They're just curious about that. I I certainly have recollection. But I don't have any connections there other than I have a adopted brother that moved back when he was in his teens. So biological brother not biological dot. Okay yeah okay. But but I don't have any connections to Seoul South Korea but certainly know big influence and I think how I look at the world and you've you mentioned that you've traveled a lot and I know that you've you've worked in Seattle and you've worked in New York City and both of. I don't know what Seattle was like at the time you were there. It's certainly It might have been the little sleepy then but now it's certainly You know I guess. Cutting Edge on development and And New York City's always been New York City What were those experiences like? And and was there a gravitational force for you to want to stay or explore other places longer? I think I read. You had a gravitational force in your wife to for for for this area but I'm just curious from from a professional standpoint. Those had to be pretty cool experiences. What do do you ever think about what it would have been like if you stayed and worked in those areas instead of coming here back here. Seattle In the late nineties I went to graduate school at the University of Washington and Seattle. Was I mean booming at the time and this was during the before the dot com bust so there was a lot of sort of. There's a certain hif- pitched sort of fever Business Environment going on and and A lot of businesses startup businesses especially Trying to get a foothold in the Pacific northwest and in from an architectural standpoint. So he had Microsoft Boeing. You name it a lot of dotcoms that were that were Out there right you name it right Some international name brands architecture out. There was a pretty incredible. And that's one of the reasons I wanted to be in the Pacific Northwest To get my graduate degree So the Pacific. Northwest was really pioneering Sustainability they were pioneering different ways of looking at How buildings come together to enhance the social fabric of community or to enhance that. Indoor outdoor relationship especially so The projects that were going on out there really were about this connection to nature or to The city and so the ability to learn in that environment. I think did help shape. The at least my perception of billings needing to be much more than just physical structure and I think Seattle was I. It would have been great to stay but it was I sort of wanted to move around as when I was younger and travel. Make sure that Had to billy to live in different parts of the country and so Seattle was a great couple years and then New York City was great. Because I just wanted to try it. I wanted to see what near was about ten. You Know New York is is Is Interesting it's It's while the there's so much going on it's a little old fashioned actually coming from go you know from coming from Seattle okay New is interesting when I was I was working on a fifty eighth in near Broadway and One of the individuals that working. She said she made a statement said you know. New York's sort of very parochial place and and so this other employees came Monday morning and we were just talking about the weekend and Just to kind of a story to show how parochial it is weekend. This this woman had Been Born and raised in Greenwich Village. And so all she knew was Manhattan. Okay so she ended up five mile. Sir Yes correct world radius world and we're talking about what what we each did that weekend the past weekend and she said. Oh you know I went to the country as a whole you went to the countries. Where where'd you go? She said I wanted to upper west side and central park. Okay that was country so so for those of you don't know that's still Manhattan. I mean for from Joaquin's it's listen. East all right and I kind of laughed about that but and talking to another person who had also been transplanted to New York. And he said he said you know New Yorkers are just they're they're it's New York and then everything else. Yeah so if you're if you're not in Manhattan you're really not anywhere. And so New Yorkers. I think you'd think there you know that there would be a sort of a feel of being part of this huge international community but in fact the New Yorkers they really view what's happening in New York as the only thing that's happening which I found interesting in kind of fun scene. They're great people. It was a great environment to work in I learned a lot. I worked at Some projects at Nyu Medical Center which is Great. But it wasn't really much different than I think Working in other communities right it was in fact. I think some of the technologies that I was using in Milwaukee and in Seattle were were made me a little ahead of doing in New York so I felt that you know the ability to make a difference in Milwaukee versus in New York was far greater and the ability to to make an impact in in In a community that you grew up in was Far More interesting to me than trying to do that. On New York or in Seattle. Okay for that matter. But so you've done a lot of projects outside of the Milwaukee area to so if those relationships that you build the travels that you made sort of planted the seeds for that for that work as well. Yeah absolutely I We've done a lot of work outside the Wisconsin which is great and we love that gives us a other challenges under staying other communities understand What had navigate Their political side as well has been challenging but also really great to be involved in one of our biggest projects and Tempe Arizona. Big Approach called appear five hundred fifteen to twenty five story towers that are under construction right now and then our other big project one is down in for Lauderdale and that's F. Three Marina which is a relationship with David. Benke that I have here in Milwaukee he and Jonathan are that their company is Through marinas managing marinas all of the world. Which is really great. So we're actually under construction on. It'll be the only the second automated storage facility in the country and automated sodomy it from the time it comes out of the water to where it's it saw computerized. Yeah really like a vending machine for boats is cool. Yeah and if you look at it it doesn't you know it has to look great because it's right on the intercoastal rate in downtown Fort Lauderdale. So you're talking very high value real estate view issue visa an issue the the condos a cost the or coastal. It was a challenge to get that one approve. Took a couple of years. But that's under construction right now and really great project you mentioned the politics and it made me think about just the general overall it's that you and firms like yours get Oftentimes it's great attention. You're building beautiful things. You're making a huge impact on the community. Jobs are created all that stuff but but oftentimes well despite regardless of how how great it is. Everyone always has an opinion about at the May or may not be supportive so the sport of ones I get. That's easy to deal with the support ones whether it's people at the zoning or the politicians or the neighborhood or the press or whatever you you just live in a fish bowl of attention and I suppose as the as as the Exposure or you know the the the Attention to a project goes like the motor moderna couture's or like the one you just mentioned you're building those aren't little things that don't get noticed. How do you deal with with with it? What's your mindset? Well first of all Changes difficult for everybody right. No one is a change especially for people maybe not directly involved with the project is always her heart to to Understand her to overcome and so we try to be as I would say as thoughtful about how we communicate why what why. We're doing something. Or why were we designed something? The way it's been designed only because a if it was something that was going up in my neighborhood. I'd like to understand why as well so A communicating very very thoroughly and inside in a very minor is really critical to to what we do and in fact I think the way the way we percents. You're usually almost like telling a story because the project isn't something that's just going to be there for a day. It's going to be there for a very long time and so for US understanding the story that a project needs to tell is as important as how that story ends up in a sense and and how the the the building is a part of that story and so the way we usually deal with that is with obviously Making sure that every design that we're presenting is up to our standards Has a I would say a bigger or a deeper meaning behind it rather than just a rendering and it's something that will hopefully be a contributing part of the physical environment for that community for very long time a positive contributor and so if we sort of hit on those factors and communicate that through a well I would say told Toll Story. That's sort of. That's our goal. That's our goal isn't to say. Hey this can be. Here's the project. It's here's the project. Here's why we're doing it this way. And here's why it's going to be a great contributor to your community and that's that's something that again it's just looking at a as if you're the person on the other side. Yeah in that neighborhood and so the way we I guess look. Projects is similar whether it's for the client or telling it to community to neighborhood group To You know An RDA or whoever? It's making sure that it's not that. There's a reasoning behind all Oliver Decisions and essentially being very open. About what those reasonings. Yeah okay. That's a good lesson. That sounds really smart. Plus your the the way that you sort of deliver yourself seems very reassuring to people. So That's how I feel listening to you. So how often is it? I I wanted to ask you about this. How often is it that people who were critics of project become fans? I read this one Quote from Tom Bamberger. Who WHO said? I missed the boat on architect Matt Ranka I think he was referring to the MODERNA building But evidently you and he had had some discussion about it and that seems like I mean. That's that's a that's a that's a flip and I'm just wondering how often that that something bad happens You don't think it happens a lot. Okay it's something that were seeking most of the time I would say The work that we do. Y- we hope people use it and fact I'll say One of the other Bigger differences is. We're foot we focus on projects that Are Are GonNa get used so we don't do a lot of don't do any single family homes because there for a couple or family. We like projects that really engage the community Not The say we wouldn't do a single family home but you know I think Our Passion is to to to do projects that Engage a community engaged. Customers engage employees And have a really broad impact. And so you know I think we're we're coming from Is always from a good place for the client. Making sure that it's a very successful project for the client and typically in ninety nine percent of the time if it's a good project for the employees is a good project for the client or physique good project for customers or the public. It's a good project for the client and so understanding that If if we can If we can communicate that the intentions are are are coming from the right place. Typically you flip a lot of people's minds that way because we're not here to to to design our push design onto anti-community we're here to You know design something that be reflective of what the community You know what will be beneficial to the community now again. Changes always heart. Buildings are something that will either negatively positively or in a benign way Add to the community. So it's our goal is to always whatever project we're doing something that's adding value to the community Or helping to push You know say maybe under served neighborhood in a better direction Or an area that needs better development or better projects. Hopefully that's a the Michael's project I don't know if it's called river one. Yeah that's sort of where the horny goat used to be. So you know what you're getting your when you're tearing down your own but that's that's a project that you in a area that really wasn't seeing the benefits of I think that cannot economic boom that we've seen for the last ten years although it is on the water it's one of those sort of act. Sorry to interrupt you just like the for so long even areas on the water where some were sort of written off as being industrial or correct. Just nobody wants to be in that neighborhood. Sort of thing or whatever. Yeah well and I give so much credit to the Michael's family. There really an incredible company based in Wisconsin. Brownsville huge huge company that I think most people have seen their signs around the state but don't realize the impact that they've had not just in Wisconsin. But internationally right. I think they're you know he's more than a thousand employees and one of the biggest construction firms in the entire world and so but they saw the vision. The family saw the vision for doing something on that site which is why they bought up that that property and you know we were fortunate enough to help them envision. Something that I think is really going to add value to that whole harbor district neighborhood. It's a really gateway so that beecher street entrance from the on the south side is really the South Gateway into downtown. Yeah really cool. Yeah it's a really You know you're lucky to be associated with that project. I think it's really a catalytic project and I don't know what all the timing wise but that projects getting started then the city sort of decides or you know we're GONNA we're going to redevelop the Harbor Comazzi decides. They're going to build their new headquarters down like all. These things start happening sites that were just a storage polluted are now being cleaned up for these types of projects. And it's going to so but it's like everything needs to start right. Nobody wants to be the first one to take that chance but it's so often it seems once that chances taken then sort of like the flood gates open and everyone's like yeah okay last person that companies sort of made it okay to be there now. We're going to be there and yeah and it takes Someone who's Got the vision the Michael's family who had the vision to say. This could be something pretty cool and For for them to take that risk. I I don't think you could I don't know that that you would see some of the other things that have happened since they said we're going to build this like come out to like right height going into the retreat other companies are realizing that there's some great value being in the downtown area or being in the metropolitan area. And I think you need companies like like Michael's to get cuts right and I think the Michael's family taking on that risk you gotta credits so much to them. Yeah for sure helping to catalyze that neighborhood. What's the number one most important thing for you right now? You know what the number one most important thing is to a continue to nurture our relationships with our clients and simultaneously a nurture the individuals and the leaders in our firm. And so you know we've in the last Three to four years we've gone through. I would say a bit of a transformation internally to help make sure that This company can continue to be a huge benefit to our clients and a huge benefit to any project that we do for the community and in our do that we needed to expand the leadership within the company so in the last three or four years. I've added a two additional partners to the company Chat griswold and Steve. Morales are really great partners who've helped Continue our trend growth and doing some amazing projects In addition we've expanded our leadership group we've added Some senior vice presidents and vice presence to the leadership team and My Job Has You know I? I think I mentioned my job is to really help. Facilitate other people success in the company. And that's ultimately that's I would say my my number one right now is to make sure that The amazing professionals that we have in the company can continue to become leaders and grow professionally to add the value to our clients that that you know they expect from us. We'll Mary thank you so much for being on the show. Today I've enjoyed so much learning about you and learning how you think about Your Business and the amazing relationships and and the fantastic projects although we didn't have a chance to get into a lot of the projects but But I'm I'm more interested in your story than the projects but Anybody that's that visits Milwaukee Or Tempe Arizona or Fort Lauderdale. We'll see Rink incas work. And it's whether you're which is also kind of interesting to me whether it's a high rise luxury apartment complex or whether it's pizza man restaurant or cafe. Benelux or or any of those it's it's just it's an amazing array of work. That's made a real difference so thank you. 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The Lefts Narrative has been Pre-Determined

Vicki McKenna

34:44 min | 1 year ago

The Lefts Narrative has been Pre-Determined

"Broadcasting Planet Madison the Brew City and the world on iheartradio Vicki mechanics show to be a part of the program called Hotel Gaming Wisconsin dells. At seven seven to three five thirteen. Email Vicky W. Dot Com now here's. Burn. Good afternoon. Program I'm thinking McKenna. McKenna chauve. Sorry for a little bit of late start, there had to put my mic. Screen. On so I. Don't get the Rona. From whoever else was in the studio here today? have you heard that the media is attempting? To, bring us to the brink of shut down two point Oh yes. They are. We will talk about that coming up on the program. Of course because the opening of America. Hasn't produced giant spikes in Corona virus infections or death. The opening of America. Certainly some parts in Wisconsin still sort of kind of shutdown. CONGRATS, racine. You had a judge. Lift the local lockdown. Order for you folks on Friday. So! You're at least temporarily free. But some areas, some other parts of Wisconsin are still in. Varying degrees of lockdown. What Is obvious now is that you're not seeing a giant spike? There are pockets. where, you're seeing some increase in at nineteen positive tests, but in terms of hospitalizations. Or deaths, you're not seeing. A percentage related increase to the number of positive corona virus tests, and of course we're testing more people, so this is good news but. As the economy. Comes back. As. Our economy start showing signs of life. It's threatened. To be picked up enough by election day. The president trump gets credit. So we will talk about that on the program. The violence that is just exploding across the United States. Isn't this fascinating? You've got the violence in the chop. The Capitol Hill occupied protest used to be known as Chas. The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone in Seattle. Fatal shooting there over the weekend. That's got nothing on the Chicago Homicide Escalation Zone. That's what I'm calling Chicago now or the `Chez. The CHICAGO HOMICIDE ESCALATION ZONE Fourteen, people dead over father's Day weekend. One hundred two people shot New York I. Believe had over eighty people shot. I didn't see a report of the fatalities. Milwaukee is a thirty eight percent increase in homicide. From this time last year, so you have as pressure to de-fund police increases based on, rabble? Based on Inane. Idiot speak coming from college educated ramble. What are you seeing? You are seeing as police. Recede lawlessness increases as lawlessness increases, violent crime has begun to go up in these areas. Fourteen people including three year old boy in Chicago. I don't know the three year old boys named nobody bothered to publish his name that is on the story. Everybody knows knows George Floyd's name or Rashard. Brooks name. Nobody knows three year old kids, name or any of the other people who were murdered. or any of the other people in Milwaukee were murdered or the person who was shot and killed in the Chaz or the chop whatever we're calling it. And this is a political gambit. This is a political action. Design rain chaos in America again to keep the economy. Not quite firing on all cylinders to keep. People freaked out to keep stress high. To make it difficult for president trump to get his message out to make it difficult for us in November. To just simply put our heads down go to the polls and be the silent majority. That's what they reckon all of this madness and chaos and mayhem. Going to ultimately mean, and that is a victory for Joe Biden. We're GONNA. Take a break here. David. Clarke is going to join me in. Just a moment I've got some audio from the occupation in downtown Madison from over the weekend. That's coming up. We'll be right back here. We Are America. City after city after city under siege. Madison under siege. CHICAGO UNDER SIEGE SEATTLE NEW YORK MILWAUKEE. and. I mean in Milwaukee. You're talking about cutting ten percent of the police budget. I don't know how many officers it's over one hundred. So. You're talking about reducing the boots on the ground force. They're talking about a five percent. Cut in Madison. They're talking about drastic cuts in Los Angeles, so the idea is to allow chaos to completely dominate the experience of millions of Americans across the country. Who are living in cities and make no mistake. It's coming to a suburb. We've already seen organization in menominee falls in Economou Walk and these sleepy bucolic. Excerpts of Milwaukee. We've seen it in some prairie. We've seen it in lake mills, so I mean in southern Wisconsin. You've already seen it spread. Beyond just the city border, so you can laugh and you can slap your knee and you can say ha ha! That's what you get, you get what you vote for, but it's it means to spread, and it means to create chaos. Everywhere and even where chaos is not being created immediately, it's too mean to make you sense that chaos is just around the corner. It's to get you to not talk about the election to not defend the president and not defend conservatism to not push back against the racialism of black lives matter. David. Clarke is on the phone and this is there is no endgame here besides the total destruction and transformation of the rule of law in America itself and the game is election day. I don't know that's the end game by the way the three year old in Chicago that was. KILLED HIS His name is MCI James It's m. e. a. m. e. k. h.. How do I know because I care unlike black lives matter anyway. what we're seeing. You know and I would recommend your audience to download a copy of the book. The print version the print version. Is Two hundred bucks. Okay, because these books are rare, but you can download a copy of the book for Five Bucks get it. Please and read it. It's more of a pamphlet than a book and what it is. The name of it is not a shot his fire. It is how. It's the playbook for how? A socialist group can destroy capitalism and then insert socialist form of government and happened, Czechoslovakia. That's what this book was written for this pamphlet. Howard happened there. In other areas, and what's at play here? What you're seeing now is in terms of their struggle. They they start with a bottom up. This is bottom up. We know that street level right. The bottom of what they're trying to do now is also applied pressure from the top, so you have from the bottom pressure with all these riots, and and all this intimidation and bullying. And they've never had here in the United States they've never had the pressure from the top meaning the political class that starts to comply with their demands. Start and you see it now. They're starting to change laws. They're starting to cut police the. Movement needs police out of the ways of fascinating. Really you know like I, said it's not that long. Maybe take an hour and twenty minutes to read it, but then you understand what's going on, and if we understand what's going on, we'll the reason why it's important will apply the right remedies, but from the top down there now getting the ruling class to enact legislation cut police budgets tearing down statute. They the bottom up tears down the statues on their own, but now you're sitting like the I think it's The New York. Museum of Natural History taking down. You know on their own and by resolution. A Statue of Teddy Roosevelt so you see how this is coming together and it's working out wonderfully and I still think hard of the. Problem on our side when our side of the conservative Patriots, freedom-loving Americans rule of law people. We don't understand what's taking. Place here all this crap about Oh? Yeah, we need to listen. We need to End Racism. It's all a Crock of crap. All right designed to destroy this capitalist system. You see that's why they they loot built a businesses why they burn down businesses people say well. Why would they burn down? A business that a business is a symbol of capitalism? So. That's why I said. If we don't understand what the heck is going on here, we won't apply the right remedies, and by the way when the bottom up meets where the top is Poe applying the pressure down. What happens is the bottom up then destroys that class, so all these people going along with it by the way you're going to be destroyed, and then they fully take over with their own people, so they don't utilize Joe Biden and Kobe Shar and all these other. They don't use them once they get them in. They destroy them, and then they themselves one things. That's what's happening here I think you can see Ed. You have got the re the riots, the mayhem at street level, and instantly you've got the elite class. The media, the politicians on the left, endorsing it refusing to call what is this goes all the way back to occupy Wall Street. which preceded ANTIFA, which preceded black lives matter. Goes all the way back to the destruction that was rod in Washington DC and New York and and in those in those occupy Wall Street protests. People were attacked. People were shot. People were rape. Businesses were destroyed, and nothing has been written about that, and there was almost no reporting on that because the media recognized what the ground troops were doing, the ground troops were attacking the foundations of capitalism, so you didn't get anything. The the politicians never had to weigh in on it because the media wasn't requiring them to weigh in on it same thing here. The only people required to weigh in are the Republicans. What do you think? Think about it, you try to have a careful nuanced statement or opinion about what is going on with race in America. You're a racist. If someone's because the first question you get, do you support black lives matter? Do you agree black lives matter and if you see something like this well, I do agree black lives matter. However I disagree with the organization. That's a neo. Marxist Fascist Organization designed to tear down America. You're accused of not thinking. Black lives matter instantly become a conspiratorial Kook, and and that's how you're attacked, and so you're scared out of trying to even engage in this debate if you are an elite conservative in power. It was interesting the last week when vice president pence was being interviewed and I was proud of proud of problem at that moment that I haven't been before, but the media tried to twist his arms into acknowledging insane, saying black lives matter to which he kept responding. All lives matter all is matter you won't say. Black lives matter all lives matter. See that's the non capitulation that we're going to need here and I'm a very simple thing to do right by the way this movement. Part of the Tactic is to crush all opposition. Crush all opposition, so they're gonNA. Force you and that's what all this crap is sending. Black lives matter admit black lives matter forcing you. Why do I have to acknowledge? At all, why do I have to say even all is man. Why do I have to say Blue Eyes? Why don't have to acknowledge it at all? Because people are doing out of fear, a lot of people are doing to feign their superficial. a sensitivity to race and. So an and stuff is dangerously naive, so. You know when when we see this continue and it will continue unless you crush. Look what's going on in Seattle and people are saying well, you know. They just took over six blocks. And what's the big deal? It's a huge deal. It is a huge deal. When you look at the model of this and not a shot is fired. It's a huge deal you state. You staked claim to some area. You plant your flag down there is your ground zero. There is there command pull so to speak you know no cops, and no Thomas Whatever and you got this goofy Mary poppins mayor. Can't remember her name Dirk. Whatever's I call him Mary poppins because she has very. Dangerous Clean I of Ny view of this thing. She called it all the summer of love. This is not the summer of love. This is the summer of rage and if she doesn't get her act together and start to identify because eventually, she is going to have to do something about this. She's hoping she doesn't. But. She eventually is going to have to, and when she finally does, she will realize it'll be too late for some people and I think so and we. Worst counter stress she won't do anything th that mayor and I think it's yes won't do anything. The governor of Washington State Won't do anything he says. That's all on Seattle in the governor. Just that's not my problem that Seattle, Seattle is Washington state's largest city. Well. Look here in Wisconsin. Where's our governor? Where's where's anybody? As the mayor of Madison or the Mayor of Milwaukee essentially? Essentially, GENU FLEX in the case of the mayor of Madison literally on her knees before the Altar of the Exaltation of the New Racism That's in our governors nowhere to be found no bodies anywhere to be found, so people are saying. Where are those rank and file cops? Why don't those rank and file cops stand up and I think they should. Here's what I think they should. Should do walk off the job. How about the unions actually start behaving like? The unions behaved in the two thousand eleven uprising I saw more rank and file. COPS stand with their unions to stand with the teachers unions during the ten uprisings and I've seen ever push back against the lies that all police officers are nothing more than gutless racists with badges, so that needs to happen. Happen but but also elected. Republicans need to stand up and start pushing back with one voice. I mean. What do we need to get you front of a whole Group of Republicans and you hand out talking points so that people can actually stay on script and actually create a counter narrative to this insanity, because if that's what it takes, can I get you to do that? Well what would happen is you'd find. That did nothing more than a bunch of court holders going there I try to. Tell them. Hey, look. Here's some strategic things that you can do and they say yeah, you get him Clark we'll hold your coat That's what I found with with many. On the Republican side. they don't have fight in. They don't know how to fight. And you end up out there by yourself. You think there with you. You think they're coming along. You think they'll jump to your defense even if they don't WanNa. Come along, they see you under attack. You'd think they'd come out. And defend you is only a few in Washington Edward do it. People like Louie Gohmert. He's one on I could name some others, but but I really don't need to do that right now, but there are few. but short of that. There's no fighting spirit, and the fight could take place in any number of ways it doesn't have to be a physical confrontation doesn't have to be an armed. Confrontation, but you know why. People are going along with this nonsense. Who Know Better? They know better than to do it, but you know. Let's just take the path of least resistance. Let's just say black lives matter black lives. Matter is a Marxist Leninist hate group. That's what they are. Why won't more on our side acknowledge that? Fear cowards, that's. Thanks for coming on the program today we should point out that there is a rally for law enforcement. It shouldn't require people to be at a rally for law enforcement, but it has gotten to that point here in Kenosha. Next weekend at. Saturday Yep next week on Saturday and you're. You're part of that? You're going to be there, aren't you? Know I'm going to be that. I'm going to be taking a role I'm GONNA be mainly taking a role of the political leaders who've been invited that don't show up. I'll be calling them out. Thanks very much for coming on program David Clarke. On the show. This is Vicky mechanics. Show I gotta take a break. We'll be right back. Down? Seven, seven to three, five, thirteen ten. So what David was saying in, and by the way the book, not a shot is fired. Not a shot is fired as written by the author John Kozak. And I may be pronouncing the last name correctly yet. J. A. N., K. O.. Z. K. it is four nine thousand nine on kindle. It's very expensive. He actually by the paperback. But it is only a couple of bucks so cost of a cup of coffee. If you get it on on e book, and it's not necessarily only kindle, but it's on any any of your e Book Services Out. There's about five bucks. If you want to read that, but he's right and. The narrative is. predetermined. The, facts are irrelevant, the narrative predetermined. Let me give you an example of what I'm talking about here over the weekend and Madison was a melee. That took place downtown at the bars at bar time it was. One, hundred fifty two hundred people. That all poured out of the bars and. Things started going sideways. So. Let me let me. A woman got hit by a truck. In this in this mayhem and chaos. Let me. Read you the story from Winz. Channel Three in Madison Solomon I. Just read you the story. Madison, Mayor! Sandra, it's conway calling for transparency in the investigation of Sunday morning hit and run that an activist group is calling a hate crime. So in that first sentence you see a pre set narrative. The mayor is calling for transparency, which presupposes the police are not being transparent. The is calling for transparency in the investigation of Sunday morning. Hit and run than activist group is calling a hate crime so I hate crime now. The mayor is calling for transparency that presupposes the police are not sharing information because of a hate crime. You see how it's subtle, but this is what the press does. Continue reading a statement Monday roads. Conway said she had asked Madison police to release any video of the incident quote. I fully support hate crime charges when they are warranted. My thoughts are with the victim and her family as well as my wishes for a speedy recovery. Protesters gathered on Sunday more on that in a moment, protesters gathered on Sunday to bring attention to the incident. Bring attention to the incident because the Madison police are withholding information on a story that happened at bar time Sunday morning here. We are just a few hours. Pass twenty four hours later, and the protesters are demanding transparency. The activist group urban triage, which is not an activist group. It's a radical Marxist fascist group, said a white supremacist intentionally hit a black woman. The group also claimed responding Madison Police officers waited thirty minutes before getting the woman. The proper medical attention and pepper sprayed her along with family and friends right. That's the story in the press. Here is the story from a police officer to me about what happened last night or a Sunday morning. Here it is. After the bars let out a crowd of several hundred people gathered at Francis and university avenue. The crowd blocked Francis Street and walked across university and stood in the road. Several vehicles also parked in front of the bars. Vehicles were seen racing up and down the street with several individuals, hanging out of the windows, and some vehicles, doing donuts and figure eights in the street. A female was working in the crosswalk. Francis Street when she was struck by a truck, the truck exited the Francis Street parking ramp and came up to the crowd. This is when people began to jump on the truck and into the bed of the truck dancing on it. The driver was punched in the face and that's. That's when he drove into the crowd. The driver was further, attacked and continue to drive through the crowd, driving over the female victim officers arrived on the scene to large hostile crowds, officers described being sucked into the crowd, as officers tended to the victim. The victim's family became hostile to the officers, shoving them in pointing fingers in their face, pepper spray was then deployed to get the crown back in check, so ems could reach the victim you w police shorewood police capital police Anton of Madison police all responded with the city of Madison Police to provide assistance by this time, bottles were being thrown at police victims injuries were minor order was eventually restored. The driver of the truck has been. What a difference! What a difference! So in one story, we've got the Madison police not wanting to forthcoming in an and by the way if you go to look at the Madison police official. Incident report that they put up. Much of this is in the incident report much of what I just read. This was a email from a police officer to me. Much of this is already in the incident report, but that's not what the press reported. The press is reporting that a white supremacist. How does anybody know the guy was a white supremacist? They don't. Nobody knew who he was deliberately targeted. A black woman did that happen. It doesn't sound like it from the description. Description of a police officer to me, it sounds like the guy drove out of a parking ramp into a crowd, and then the crowd decided that his rolling truck was going to be a rolling party wagon, and when he objected, he got punched in the face, which I don't know about you guys, but if that's me rolling out of a parking ramp into a crowd and I, get punched in the face I'm gone in it to get the h out of there. So that's not the story. The story is white. SUPREMACISTS targets black woman. Madison police are covering up for white supremacist. And the mayor of the city is playing along. This teed up of course. What do you think this teed up? How about protests? That's right. We had a protest on Sunday in downtown, Madison, were a group of it looked like about fifty to one hundred people decided they were going to take over streets in. Downtown Madison I got a little bit of the audio from that protest. Let's just start with a chance. And then we'll take a quick break and come back here with more audio, so the urban triage protesters this was led by. Two black men one black woman, and seems like all of the other people who were following. We're all white. And they were they were. They were taking over streets in the capital city. They were descending on to people who are sitting at sidewalk cafes. They were hollering at a foot from people's faces through bullhorns. One Guy was carrying a baseball bat and they were talking about war. Let's get an idea of the chance based on again. What sounds like a totally false narrative that everyone who peddled the false narrative had to know his faults, because there was no way to know that this guy was a white supremacist, or this was a targeted crime. Here's just a little portion of what people got treated to is. They just tried to go shopping in downtown, Madison. If we don't get it, burn it down. Get what. Burn what? They're not specific. They do want war that was made abundantly clear in this protest went on for three hours roaming all over the area again all based on the. Pre supposed narrative. There was no way that narrative had any supporting facts none. No Way. That was the narrative that was immediately put out, and it was a narrative that was picked up by the press despite even official. Police statements. About what happened after bars lead out and a woman was hit by a truck. NAMARA saying Oh. My thoughts are with the victim and her family she. Is already home I mean speedy. We wish her a speedy recovery. He's already recovered. Take a quick break I'll be right back. Sent this to me. Welcome to the welcome to the mayhem Fort Washington. You have a you have a group of rabble-rousers in port. Washington they're trying to make sure that this because you live. A nice quiet town. You're not going to be exempt. You're not going to be exempt, so here's a story about a bunch of Marxist leading allowed obnoxious in your face up yours march. Through the streets of Port Washington, and of course, the quotes in the press are the organizers saying we just want to use our relationships to talk with people know you don't. Know you don't. That is a lie. The news the local news, the National News, people, it is poisoned. It is poisoned. They're either too afraid to actually tell the truth, or they're part of the elite cabal promoting these lives so here we have in port. Washington people marching around with bullhorns, hollering it folks, and of course our people driving by flipping them off, and that described in the Fox six story that I'm looking at here as proof that there races. No, you're obnoxious a holes. That are deliberately getting people's faces and and trying to start. Something with your agitation. Here's the quote well. We need agitators. We need people to feel uncomfortable. It's the spaces that we feel most comfortable that we have to actually say. These aren't equitable spaces. How do we fix that Baloney? That isn't what you want. That is ally. This woman who said this is a woman named Natalie Kelham VAT is a lie that. That is not what you want. You WanNa Holler at people in terror them into silence and terrorize them into complicity. Let's get back to Madison here for a second because there was a much larger group of people who are a fair bit scarier because the leader of the group was carrying a baseball bat. That's right. Are you going to stand up and? and Go nose to nose with a guy carrying a baseball bat now maybe some of you out there retired marines perhaps wanna go nose to nose with a guy with a baseball bat. Yours truly here little five foot three inch me. I'm not going nose to nose with a guy with a baseball bat. Let's have another selection audio selection from this from. From this quote, a protest, this peaceful protest that was a bunch of people scaring the ever loving crap out of folks that if they moved, they might be at risk of a beatdown. Let's let's pull up the audio selection called war. Let's pull up that one because this guy makes it pretty clear that while he's about agitation. That's not all he's about. Radical round. Out here. I Wore? Agitated, you better take. Offer. When I got to offer is not agitation. Let's roll to threats the one that I labeled. John. Young. Wow, so there you have it. If you're not on my side, you're going down and if you're not standing up for black people in the way to stand up for black people is to terrorize people into total silence and submission. You're going down. This was described by the way by the poisoned local news organizations in madison quote engaging with restaurant-goers. Engaging that was engaging scaring people with a baseball bat. Saying things like I'm not about agitation. I'm about war, and if you're not with me, you're going down. Well I dunno man when someone standing over me with a baseball bat and saying. If you're not with me, you're going down and I'm me five foot three of me. Yeah. What do you think people are going to do? What do you think people did? They put their heads down, and then of course if they were putting their heads down and not completely not completely nodding Aymen's. To the lunatics. They were called out a couple tried to leave. They made the mistake of trying to leave, and they were swarmed by these peaceful protesters swarmed. This isn't about conversations and I'm tired. I'm tired of hearing it. This is just about conversations. We just want to have a conversation. No, you don't because a conversation doesn't involve a bullhorn a conversation with a bullhorn. A baseball bat isn't a conversation. It's an order. Redefining piece as riots, re-defining conversations as orders. And not just Madison, and not just in Milwaukee and just in New York in Walk in Port Washington. You're not going to be able to escape this by sticking your head in the sand and your suburbs. It's coming for you. What is it? It is an angry rage filled hate based ideology that believes everything you love needs to be destroyed in the name of Social Justice everything you love your family, your community, the constitution, the rule of law. And I'M GONNA. Go back to what I said at the very beginning of this show, the first goal the first hurdle. Isn't. Tearing Down Statues, it's the election. If people are so terrorized if they don't feel comfortable voting. All right one last thing before we take a break here do we have the? Do we have the whizz dumb of that same rabble rousing leader? Too Long, we're GONNA have to take a break then before we before we give you the resistance of that of that organizers genius. where he talks about that slave owning racist, Abraham Lincoln. No I didn't know that either. I had no clue. Must be my history. Books are racist. Because nowhere to say anything except that Abraham Lincoln. Was a poor man. Who ran on an anti slavery platform. And refuse to capitulate to the confederate's. Instead Committed the country to a war that resulted in the end of slavery as an institution last I checked, he was the guy that signed the emancipation proclamation, but that must be wrong because my racist history books must be lying to me. This is the Vicki McKenna show.

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The Problem With Toy Guns And Princesses

Parenting: Difficult Conversations

26:52 min | 2 years ago

The Problem With Toy Guns And Princesses

"Step on them in the hallway. He showed him back in the closet. They keep coming back to take over your living room. What are we talking about today, Corey we're so talking about toys? Learn whereabout them we went to the heart of it all the annual toy fair, New York. That is the bungee gallery. They didn't remained the comes packages slide two different colors of slime. There's little button on her back rather girls can put the slime inside. And it's squishy. You can feel that it's in there, and you can take it out and change the color. That is unsettling. This is the one second soaker. This is the first real innovation in squirt guns in about twenty years. Legos cabinets and NPR education reporter and the mother of two girls, and I'm Corey Turner and NPR education reporter and the father of two boys, and we're coming to you today from toy fair New York, the largest trade show of its kind in the sphere. And this is life kit for parents with sesame workshop, we're here to help you through the tough conversations with kids things like death divorce and the question for today. We're calling it the toy problem led to do when you start asking for stuff that makes you feel kind of uncomfortable as a parent. Just like anything. He's got a row rotating barrel, and it's a full auto so kids just load up the belt drop it in power on. I'm standing right by a really amazing display. It's a giant. Both this partner jet, and I'll just say for the record as a mom that farts are not funny, and I don't wanna hear farts at the table. And I don't want to hear about an Injia that says silent but deadly UT. That's not a funny joke. Okay. Today. The toys that make us cringe. And what to do about them right after this? Support for this NPR podcast and the following message. Come from Lincoln learning, which offers over thirteen thousand online courses to help you achieve your goals. You can take a course like managing stress, and you can learn from experts about the importance of mindfulness identifying your triggers, creating a nightly ritual for sleep avoiding burnout and much more Lincoln learning videos are short so you can fit in a morning lesson in kick off the day with a clear mind and life Kate listeners get a month of learning free. Start your free trial at Lincoln, learning dot com slash NPR. Okay. Toys for some parents a gun in their kids hand is a little concerning other parents might be freaked out by stinky slime whereby the site of their child covered in sequins and sparkles. We're all different. And so our toys feelings, so we're going to help you figure out when you should really be worried and what you can do about it. After the toy fair. We sat down with rose Marie truly. Oh from sesame workshop, I didn't know about the farts inches, and we also reached out to Lisa Danila. She's from Monmouth university gender studies professor who has one of the most fun areas of research. We've ever heard of I actually study superheroes and princesses. Lisa started studying toys and play because she was originally interested in how he choose careers, and she traced the origins of those career choices all the way back to toys and playtime. In fact, Lisa says there appears to be a connection between what our kids play with how they play with it. And the people they grow up to be. Yeah. Here's one example. Lisa says, a recent study of kids use aggressive toys, like toy guns. The researchers found pretty startling pattern. So we're guardless of whether they were a boy or girl if they were playing with aggressive toys when they were little they were more aggressive when they were teenagers. Now, the study is not the last word on the topic. Researchers have been debating this a long time about whether toys or violent video games cause aggressive behavior or whether they are just a sign of the violent impulses that are already in our children. But still this is a big study. And it's food for thought here's a different example of how play can really stick with us into adulthood. So a few years back Lisa and her colleagues surveyed women in college shockingly, we found that thirty three percents of our undergraduate women in our sample said that they identified themselves as princesses now, that's not inherently bad. I mean who doesn't wanna feel a little special and sparkly every once in a while. Corey do do. But these princesses had a few things in common, a kind of Princess mindset. Yeah. Lisa found they were more likely to say that they valued their mates physical, attractiveness and earning power. There were also less likely themselves to wanna get jobs after college. This is in twenty thirteen and here's the clincher when the women were given a series of really tough puzzles to measure their persistence, the prince's actually, quit faster than the women. That said that they were not princesses. Wow. Yeah. Again. Now, Lisa study doesn't exactly prove that little girls who dress up like Snow White will all go up passive and week and tricked by poison apple. But it does suggest that this Princess mindset. It comes packaged with some not very positive beliefs and behaviors. Core. I just wanted to go through my house in Ripa Bala Titas, are you? I wanna go through the house and pick up all the toy guns. It sounds like what we're hearing is. Yes. The toys that our kids play with do have some kind of connections. Even if they're not totally clear with the kinds of people that grow up to be. And so quite what are we supposed to do about that? Well, luckily, we have both Rosemary and Lisa. And so now we're going to run through six clear takeaways from our chat on toys with both of them. Takeaway number one. Where's Murray says he can't just ban every toy that makes you uncomfortable or rip up all the Tutu's? I don't think banning anything is the answer. We can't eighty-sixth those super girly or super violent or super gross toys altogether. And Rosemary says there are a few reasons for this in her case as a mom she was uncomfortable. When her son Lucas wanted one of those foam dark guns, we had the role no guns in our home. She had a ban, but she realized that all of Lucas's friends were playing with them in the hallway of our apartment building. And she was worried that Lucas would be left out. And verse Murray says that group play and the friendships that come with it. They're all really important for kids. And for me to have this stance on no was not very beneficial for my child, and so she decided to allow the gun with conditions. I do remember coming home with that first gun and yes, sitting him down and saying, okay. This is this is how you go in to play with this gun. We're going to be very mindful of where we aim the gun. You know, we don't want to hurt anyone. And I remember him actually saying mommy's going to be okay. And it was okay. You know? And there are other reasons Rosemary says outright ban just won't work for me. I don't really like my seven year old tour make up, but then the other day she came downstairs with vaseline and baby powder to smear it all over her. And it was the same story in my house with toy guns. Children are really creative in innovative. How often do you see child? Just take the finger and getting. Right here. I know they'll they'll they'll make it up. Plus, let's be honest. Anyone who has kids knows that? When you say, no, you can't play with that. It kind of makes want to do it more. And there's always going to be a friend or a grandparent or a neighbor somebody who's willing to see? Yes now. Lisa is also a mom and like rose Marie while she's not wild about twenty guns. She didn't ban them either from her house. Instead, she says she tries to strategically downplay them, I'm never going to say, hey, we've played with those Nerf guns a lot lately, let's get those out, and I will admit that I have on a few occasions, maybe even misplaced the. So if we're not supposed to ban toys, what is the strategy when our kids want something that we don't love. It's our takeaway number two. Rather than rushing him with Allah reactions, stop look and listen because more important than what they're playing with. Lisa says the way that they're playing when they're engaging with these toys, you know, apprentice can can be all by being pretty or it can have a totally sophisticated plot or a foam gun battle could be all about strategy in cooperation, you can be really really aggressive or you can just be shooting targets. And I mean, you can hit your friend over the head with the doll. That's right. That's exactly right. So some of it is just monitoring how they're playing one red flag. Marie says is when there's no variety to a child's play. What I would be more concerned about is the child whose play is primarily comprised of aggressive behavior. And you don't see your child engage in a range of play. We wanna clarify. This may says in some cases, children who have been through trauma or abuse might after. A reenact. Some pretty scary scenarios in their play. And they might even be encouraged to do this as part of their therapy. And in other cases, for example, children on the autism spectrum having a really focused or what's called a restricted interest. Let's really comment. Right. Still in general. Rosemary says play prepares us for life. And we want our kids to dream big. It's okay for me to like pink things and pretty things in frilly things. But it shouldn't define who. I am. And it shouldn't define what I will be in the future. Anyone who is singly defined doesn't make a really interesting person. And that gets us rate to take number three, which is sexism is a very real thing. So parents need to take active steps to counter those messages. Unfortunately, we live in a very gender stereotyped world. Rosemary says books movies ads apps? Adults other kids they're all sending powerful messages to our kids about what toys they should be choosing. Why they enchanted by all of that? And you have to think about what is shaping their interests and their motivations. Researchers have shown by looking at toy catalogs over generations that even as our societies become more equal in some ways toys are actually more gender typed than they've ever been before. Lisa says kids. Learn these stereotypes before they're even out of diapers. They're learning about what it means to be a little boy and a little girl really early on. So. Between eighteen months and two years old is the first time that we're starting to see their awareness. It's so early in fact that sometimes it feels to parents like these differences are totally inborn. But Lisa says, that's not entirely the case. So the research actually is a bit mixed on this. And and it isn't just one or the other it isn't just nature, and it isn't just nurture. And an EMMY case, she says tweet companies they take advantage of the nature and the nurture to sell more stuff in a way that gives our kids fewer options. Yes, elisa's research has gotten at this in a few different ways. She done some experiments and how gender branding influences kids choices. So for example, in one experiment. She painted all the toys white so that the signal colors for gender like blue didn't scream out to the boys and pink didn't scream out to the girls, and without those cues, which he found is that both boys and girls picked more of the stuff that was just fun Plato at sketch. In another study. She gave little kids pink monster trucks, and baby dolls in camouflage onesies, so she used traditional color patterns and flip them on their heads. Yeah. And the title of the study summarizes what she found which is pink gives girls permission. There's a bigger barrier. Two boys playing with girl things and acting like girls than there is for girls to be able to venture into some of these cross gender plays. So in other words, it's almost like little girls have more options. And she says you see the difference in how hard our culture still comes down on the little boys who apprentices and sparkling things. So these trends that we're seeing in terms of deciding certain toys R for girls or for boys really just limits. They're fun. And we don't that's not what we want. We want kids to have as many opportunities as possible. If you need more reasons to expand your kids play options. Lisa also found in her research that lots of toys teach really important and unexpected skills when we see tea sets, for example, that actually has been shown to teach cognitive sequencing of events, which is a fancy way of saying the beginning the middle and the end of a task, and you can see where that would be really important for boys to be able to motor. Absolutely. It is coating in other words, you can help your child boy or girl. Learn the foundations of computer coding by throwing a party. Yeah. Who knew so Lisa's? Guessed that when we're toys shopping, we should strive for the gender-balanced and the gender neutral whenever we can. And she says we should tell her kids something like this. You can play with toys. That's a great choice. Can we get it in the white version? So that all of the kids when they come to our house complete with it. Instead of just the pink version that would be one suggestion. Our words really do matter and little tiny changes like making sure that you aren't only encouraging them to do the thing that matches with their gender group is really important. And this gets us to take away. Number four. We can talk to our kids directly and share values around toys. So you can say this dress up toy that was given to you. Although it's really sparkly. It does really talk to you about being pretty, and I would rather you spend time trying to get smart Marie helped sesame tackle this in an episode where baby bear likes playing with the baby doll. But his friend makes him feel embarrassed. So y- ends up talking all this over with one of the humans on the show. Gordon? I'm a boy in Dow's for girls says who this no reason why something should be just for girls or just for boys is not no look at this shirt. You know, there are some people who think that the color pink is just for girls. No, I I like to wear pink, you know. And there's nothing wrong with that. It does not the what was missing your cheeks. Oh, the great thing about this moment is it's not just about pink. Gordon connected to something even bigger playing. Daddy to your baby doll is great practice for when you get older and become a real daddy bear imagined. That me a we daddy bands. Right. I love them so much slow. Do I so Corey people can't see this. But you got a pink shirt on right now. I do have a pink shirt, and I have had this very conversation with my six year old he'd looked at the shirt, and he said, why are you wearing pink? And I said because I like pink score one for gender equality and Lisa says, it's not just pain kits toys. It's it's everything in my family. We actually have the saying there's no such thing as girl's toys and boys toys, there's just toys and Kim. Kids. Okay. So this gets us to my favorite. Takeaway of all takeaway number five. Join in your child's play. Yes. So Anya, let's say there's a shootout in the OK corral also known as your kitchen, and it's getting really out of hand, you have to intervene and you have to explain why you intervened. Right. So you don't intervene and say, you know, that's wrong. And you know, you're punished go to your room. I mean, that's not going to do anything. You you have to help children take on the perspective of others. So how do you do that? You maybe you take on the character role, and that character role is the character who is going to stop this type of of aggression. I got this Corey you can be the new sheriff in town, the one that gets all the outlaws, but down their goods and say sorry in hug and talk about the problems around the campfire with some beans. I'm gonna take the recording of you doing. In that voice. And I'm gonna make the ringtone on my phone because that was awesome. I also have to admit that my wife. Rachel got me a Han solo belt and holster that I can wear whenever my boys are playing with toy guns in the house and things get a little out of hand. So I can jump in and maybe redirect. We do some target practice tone it down. I like that a lot. Yeah. So actually reminds me another researcher. I talked you had an idea about a dad who played princesses with his daughter, but he would get out the firetruck and get the Prentice out on rescue mission. I love that. I mean, it goes back to what Rosemary told us time and time again, it really is up to parents to help expand their kids sense of what's possible. Parents have to provide these other opportunities because kids play what they see if you could see it you could play it. And then one day, you could be it. And the good news here is we don't have to do this all on our own the culture's changing a little bit too. In one of Lisa's study. She asked preschoolers both boys and girls to describe themselves and also to describe what they knew about princesses. Yeah. And so for princesses, they gave a pretty typical girly girl needs to be rescued. I. Okay. And then the researchers showed the children video clips of more recent Princess characters like the movie brave and frozen where they're taking action in their being powerful. Here's a tiny sample of what they played for the kids. How do you mall of you standing around decided by future? I am not apprised to be one. He he. A meta and shootin far own. Yes. So here's what so interesting. Watching those images change, the children's perceptions apprentices. And also Lisa said, they changed their own self perceptions. Right. So after soon princess's being powerful, both the girls and the boys described themselves as more multidimensional. So they will say that. I am strong. I am powerful. I am a leader. But they'll also say I am carrying and I take care of of people, and I share let's take this infirm, Corey, you know, when kids wherever they are in the gender spectrum when they get a chance to spend time with characters who more complex through play or through pop culture. It actually changes the way they see themselves. I mean, my love that. And let's be honest like it's not just true for kids. It's true for all of us. We really have to look for more complex characters in books and movies and everything that we do. Now, finally on you. Yes, we're coming to my favorite takeaway trailing on the end here. A piece toilet paper on your shoes. Kind of stuck there? Kind of on the bud. End of this audio guide little awkwardly kinda like booger on your fingers. Can't. Takeaway number six six it's about gross toys, those sparring Inge's poop emojis, the Booker board games. You know, we're talking about we know you know, what we're talking about. Because we talked to Steve preserve he's president. And CEO of the twin sociation he helps run the toy fair we were at and he told us this, you know, lashed year for some reason poop was in. So there was all these Pook theme toys, and like all good journalists on we had to fact check this claim to potty. Hot humid. I usually do. Joe? He's a really good armpit farther. Learned I'm lake farts, which are two pants on Whoopie cushions. I think the news I did to my mom. So we're Moore says there's one simple reason for this boom economy, and PU play children are fascinated with how the body works and while the far fund can get tiresome for us grow. You never get sick of it, quite I don't. But I know that you do Marie says we can turn that negative into a positive these kinds of toys give you an opportunity not only to talk about how the body works. Why do we burp? Why do we far why do we vomit? Oh. In other words because science exactly and we can't say it enough kids. Learn through play. So don't poop who the power of pooh-pooh to teach them something about their bodies. Yes. But rose may also says which is more to my liking that we can also use this potty humor to teach manners even on Sesame Street. When cookie monster burps after eats, a cookie, he says, excuse me. So it's an opportunity for parents to talk. Talk about these social norms and to have your child have manners. Maybe when they're playing with these toys, remind them lying with who is fun playing with poo fun. But remember wash your hands after you, you wiping. And if you burp zeke's use me on that note, I think it's time to wrap things. I think it's just about time did. Yeah. Here's a quick. Refresher of everything we talked about about toys number one banning it isn't the answer. I don't think banning anything is the answer never to take a deep breath press. Pause and your big feelings about a toy and watched how your kids play with it took away number three sexism, Israel, and we can fight it in the playroom with different toy choices. You already have four of these dolls is their chance that we might want to get one more doll. But also one more truck take number four talk to your kids directly about your values in my family. We actually have the saying there's no such thing as girl's toys and boys toys, there's just toys and kids took away number five juuling in your child's play. If you think your child's to recive with a gun play or a little too beauty obsessed with the Princess play. Don't you shut it down relics leasing get in their partner? If you could see it you could play it. And then one day you could be. It. And finally number six the stuff that puts the toy in toilet staffy wishes flesh. Consider these things a golden opportunity to dig into science of our bodies and to talk about matters lack with that Corey. And that's all for this episode of life kit for parrots. Thank you so much for listening special. Thanks to Lisa Danila rose. Marie truly. Oh. And all our friends at sesame workshop, and the other awesome, toy researchers. We talked to for this episode, Rebecca Haynes, pay Ornstein, Jeffrey, tropic Smith and Julia Delap. For more NPR life kit. Check out our next episode. We'll talk about how to tell your kids about a divorce. If you like what you hear make sure to check out our other life kit guides NPR dot org slash life kit. And while you're there subscribe to our newsletter. So you don't miss anything. We've got more guides coming every month on all sorts of topics and as a 'let's here's a completely random tip. 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The State of Wisconsin is Under Attack

Vicki McKenna

33:44 min | 1 year ago

The State of Wisconsin is Under Attack

"Broadcasting Planet Madison Bruce City and the world on iheartradio. Vicki cash show to be. A part of the program called the hotel gaming. Wisconsin dells toll free line at seven to three five thirteen. Email Vicky at WNBA dot com now here's. Good afternoon welcome to the program and Vicki McKenna. This is Vicky mechanic show. State of Wisconsin. He's under. The State of Wisconsin is represented by the capital city of Madison Wisconsin is under attack and there is nobody nobody. Who is willing to defend it? I want you to think about that? That's what this show is going to be about. The capital is under assault. The capital city is under attack. The people who live in the capital city have had their civil rights suspended not by government, but by an insurrection that nobody wants to do anything about not the governor. Knocked the mayor of the city, not the sheriff of the county, not the police chief of the city, not the attorney general of the State of Wisconsin No, not the US attorney. Not The FBI not the agents of the WHO work in this state nobody. Is Willing to do anything to defend. The State of Wisconsin. Nobody. You all know by now. That the riot that took control of the city of Madison the downtown area that firebombed. Fun Your bombed. The Juvenile Inmates Center. The city county building. And a portion of the building that was set aside for federal. Law Enforcement. Firebombed it. Everybody stood down. You by now know the Tim. Carpenter senator. Tim Carpenter was attacked. Why was Tim Carpenter attacked? He was attacked because he was filming probably so that he could put up on his facebook page the next day how he was down the revolution how he was down with the cost is. Not Realizing that an order had been given in his civil liberties had been suspended. In order had been given by the leader of the riot and the insurrection one marquand M, Clark. That, there was no filming no photographs. Nobody was allowed to record anything that happened. They tried to disabled security cameras that were installed around the downtown area. What Senator Tim. Carpenter a Democrat learned. was that it didn't matter. He was down with the 'cause. It didn't matter. He was on team Def- on the police. It didn't matter he was Hashtag. It didn't matter. He was filming. The riot. And he was beaten stupid by eight to ten people. Who attacked him and kicked him in the head. causing a least concussion. There are photographs all over the place I mean. I don't know if he suffered permanent damage. But what he didn't realize that in enabling. The, insurrection, not just in Madison, but around the country by refusing to call out the domestic terror stations that have been seizing control of the state and of this nation. that his civil liberties his civil right, we're going. To be suspended. Let, the lesson be learned liberals. Hoping the alligator eats you last sometimes that alligator just goes crazy. And you get eaten I. Let me, read you something before we get to audio. I've got a lot of audio of Marquand M Clark. This is someone that the media refuses to identify. Marquand A. R.. Q., O N M. Clark a multiple felon. Has resided in Wall Pon Fox Fox valley, correctional and Dane County jail. We've got plenty of audio from this guy calling for a riot on his facebook page bragging about stealing a tow truck from a man who is driving that tow truck. Imploring people to calm down and join the riot. The riot that began. With a firebombing of the city county building, but before we get by by the way, feel free to weigh in here because if you have an idea on how we can take back control of the state of Wisconsin since the police in the capital city don't WanNa do it and the governor and the capital city doesn't want to do it in the mayor of the capital said he doesn't want to do it. And the Attorney General of this state refuses to even come out of his office. You let me know eight, seven, seven to three, five, thousand ten. The police wide is no one willing to stand up the police. Were told to stand down. Upon getting the Intel that the city county building was going to be firebombed. The City County building which is home to juvenile inmates, kit. They didn't do anything. No one did anything. Nobody let the police. Just, do their thing. Police were recalled early from the downtown area. Because Command staff was to afraid of the images that might be shared. Eight seven, seventy, five, thirteen ten. We'll be back in a moment. Kinda show eight, seven, seven to three, five, thirteen, ten, before I get to calls, and I promise I will let me just read this. This is sourced from. Sheriff's Deputies Madison Police, officers and nine one one dispatchers. Extra police resources were sent home early last night. An officer received a citizen report that individuals were planning to firebomb the city county building. This information was immediately related to offsite command post, but no action was taken. Officers were told just to stand down, but avoid the area completely. The mob approached the officers requested. Permission to utilize gas on the crowd to back them up. The command post repeatedly denied their requests. A firebomb was thrown into the CCB. Officers heard glass break smell the smoke and reported at the command post. Still no action was taken. The nine one one center had to be evacuated dispatchers escaping had to pass through fire and smoke. This resulted in a substantial disruption of emergency services. Services to the rest of the county Dane. County Sheriff's deputies responded at great risk to their own lives to put out the fire with fire extinguishers, likely saving the lives of lives of hundreds of people including juveniles, an inmates house at the JRC in jail. A fire investigator, examining the scene remarked quote. It was only by the grace of God that the fast action by the deputies. that. The entire building did not go up in flames, officers working inside the armed themselves with rifles from the armory had the mob Brooklyn through believe they would have had to have begun shooting people to save their own lives. Officers are furious. Their commanders are not allowing them to act. They believe their lives are being endangered by their commanders, inability to make decisions or unwillingness to. To Take Action, many are calling for a formal grievance. An investigation of the commanders. Many officers have stated they have zero confidence in the overall command of the department and are ready to walk off the job. There is nobody defending the capital city of the State of Wisconsin from a two bit multi felon fog like Marquand Clark who has sixteen total convictions. This guys twenty. Twenty two years old, and he's got sixteen convictions and has been out of prison for less than ninety days. This is the guy who instigated the entire riot downtown in committed multiple federal offenses on facebook live and nobody wants to even name him in the press. Marquand Clark. Who Do you want to blame for taking on the Christian statue of the abolitionist who freed the? The slaves Marquand Clark. Who Do you want to point a finger to for for taking down the forward Statue Marquand Clark? This is the guy who instigated the entire thing. All based on the arrest of another two bit fell in thug named Debonair Johnson. We'll get to him shortly I've got some audio coming up. Let me get to the phones. Jim Welcome to the program. Oh Vicki what you just read. Just just enforced you. I. I hate to say after I have to strap up. After work downtown I don't WanNa be armed, but were they sat there on May thirtieth south when I was down there when they were doing the writing me back to my car at Hamster. Who? Peaceful protests with hammers and crowbars nobody. Nobody. Firebombs in Rocco's up who shows up chains and rapping in the stuff at a peaceful protest nobody? They're they're calling US paranoid and violent when they're attacking A. Senator for filming them yeah. What the hell doing all these people. You gotTA governor. Listen I. Don't want bloodshed. I don't want to see any bloodshed I. Don't want to see bloodshed half. I think that's what they want. I think that is what they want. Here's the thing the mayor as I am told I haven't confirmed this, but I was told she got a personal police escort out of the municipal building so that she could go be cordoned off somewhere. SAFE mind you. This is the mayor that has been pouring gasoline on the inflamed conditions in the city of Madison by blaming the police for everything and anything under the sun including slavery. That's what the mayor has been doing. She's safe the governor. Hey, he called it inappropriate all right Jim. It's inappropriate, so this cobol we renew cheap out, I got him coming up later on in the program on the Madison side of this show, chief Cobol. Yeah! please. Your uniforms still fits. Put It on. But but you don't. There's no one not Josh Cau- not the US. Attorney these are federal crimes by the way that took place yesterday, not to mention that we just had the president declare that he was going to go after people who tore down statues. So you've got a firebombing an incitement to riot on facebook live, which is almost a direct violation of federal statute firebombings violation of federal statute firebombings mandatory prison time by the way not that it. It would make marquand Clark that nervous. He's done so much prison time at his young young age of twenty two years old. You've got the mayor the city, the City Council, the county board, the county executive, the Attorney General, the governor. Everybody I mean Mandela Barnes was talking about being on the right side of things I got news for you. Lesser Mandela. You're on the wrong side of things, every single one of these people who have been pouring. Pouring gasoline on the burning fires of the war on cops and the war on on civility are the ones who bear the responsibility for all of this. Let me tell you something Jim. They cordoned off all of the streets that are accessing the downtown municipal building. The rioters cordoned off at five o'clock by eight o'clock they had firebomb the place five o'clock they they were permitted to cordon off that area and hold hostage. Anybody who was in that area. Area since five PM, and the police were told to stand down and I'M GONNA. Tell you something you. Absolutely. You absolutely have to defend yourselves. I got an idea on how I think we can get the governor to to finally dispatched the National Guard that some Nambu lint puppet who only ever comes out of the gopher hole when somebody hands him a press release to to read like a hostage video I have an idea that might make that. Useless feckless worthless governor that we have sitting living in the city of Madison finally do the right thing but first. Let me get to I. Think Scott on the on the on the line here. Or Steve I don't know who is on who was online, too. I have no idea. All Right? Hi, you're on the air. This is randy. Randy okay. Even close all right randy welcome just got off the phone call the mayor's office and I asked a question which is a yesterday question. Who gave the order to stand down? Yes or no or did? The mayor gives the order to stand down and she could not answer. She said there had been multiple phone calls asking that question. From citizens. And from the media and I still am personally working on it to get an answer for everyone who gave the order to stand down? Who gave the order? Because it happened, yeah, did you have got command staff, which are the ones that are giving the order, but who told the command staff to command staff, take the orders from the chief, or did the acting chief take the orders from the mayor and delivered to deliver it to the command staff, standing down man it at time at a time when you have people on facebook live calling for folks to come downtown and join the mayhem. I asked who gave the stand down order for State Street a couple of weeks ago. I don't know I'm still working on that. It's like it's two weeks ago. Yeah. It's so obvious I. Think the answer to the mayor. I think that's an until. We learn further, and of course, if if we have if somebody can provide us evidence that we have no reason to blame the mayor, such roads, Conway Telling Command, staff, or telling the acting chief to tell the command staff to stand down, but I put the I put the lion share of the responsibility, the foot of roads, conway the mayor of the city, and I put the second heaping pile of responsibility at the of Tony Evert. Who has the capacity to override the? Progressive Morons the idiosyncrasy that is in control of the capital city of Madison where civil rights have been suspended, civil rights have been. UNLESS YOU'RE A thug with a felon record. WHO DID TIME IN CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION? Who has decided that you WanNa? Take on the cause of defined the police, and then you can. You got the run of the show, but Tony vers could could deal with this by declaring a state of emergency, and sending out the National Guard and putting ten thousand troops in the streets of Madison to seize back order. Thanks for the call man I appreciate it. I appreciate you doing that. By the way everybody ought to be on the phone I don't care. If you're from menominee falls, you should be on the phone to the city of Madison to this idiot who has decided that she wants to put her hashtag virtue signaling politics ahead of the stability and safety and the civil liberties of the citizens in the city by the way you. You can say you get what you vote for. Well, that's Madison. You get what you vote for I. Got News for you. There are tens of thousands of people who live in the capital city and work in the capital city who did not vote for this tens of thousands of people in the city of two hundred and twenty four thousand said No. Do they deserve this? Here's my idea. Eight seven seven to three, five, thirteen, ten by the way. We get a couple of hundred people with are fifteen to descend into the downtown area in Madison and just walk the perimeter I tell you something Tony would see that cited he would declare a state of emergency so fast, and we would have so many national guardsmen. We'd be swatting them away like flies. Is that what it's GonNa take. The citizens of the State of Wisconsin to guard our, capital city. If that's what it takes to get. The National Guard deployed. To defend what ought to be easily defensible. The city of Madison police by the Dane County Sheriff's Department by the State Capitol Police and by the state patrol. Apparently all of these people are so overwhelmed. They're completely incapable of accomplishing this task. We need the national guard, and if it takes me and the rest of the rest of going downtown strapped up, then so be it I'm gonNA. Take a quick break. We'll. Become, Cheryl Eight, seven, seven, three, five, thirteen to know what attorney general's doing. He's Kissing Joe. Biden's ASS. Here's his tweet looking forward to talking about the ACA with folks from Clare Today's team Joe. FERCH virtual healthcare. Roundtable Do your capital city is under attack. You're the attorney general, you useless. Unbelievable Politics Kissing Joe Biden's rear end sucking up to that dementia ridden soft food buffet. chowing idiot is more important than dealing with a seizure of Madison Wisconsin Senator Tim. Carpenter was beaten stupid. The forward statue, and the Christian Hag statue were thrown in the lake. The municipal building housing juvenile inmates was fire bombed. Police have stood down. And what is the Attorney General? Doing the same thing? The governor's doing nothing. Let's get to Scott. WHO's been waiting awhile and I? Do appreciate your patient Scott Thank you. I. saw. Kind of beat me to the punch but. I believe it's fine for a civilian off. army so to speak to show up in Madison, and and guard our our history and our artifacts and our capital. And our people. And enough is enough. I mean this is is absolutely crazy. Here's what I want to do, and and I'm with you I'm with you on this and I want that. To trigger the deployment of thousands of national guardsmen to the city of Addison, that's what I want. That's what I want. It shouldn't be up to us, but if it must be and if you don't feel comfortable, you know I don't know open carrying or some you know. Somebody called up, didn't. Go ahead. I'm game. Yeah. Are and if if you're not comfortable that way, somebody called up and was talking to producer John here and said you know what if I brought my softball team and we just walked around with baseball bats I don't know. Sounds like a fine idea to me. Because Vagit tanks and nobody will do anything, but honestly I'm GonNa, tell you why. The progressive people of the city of Madison are so completely indoctrinated into the cult of woke. They are so enamored with their own reflection in the mirror as they as they preen over how virtuous and anti-racist they are. They're not going to throw the mayor out of her out of her seat. They're not going to get rid of the useless sheriff. They're not gonNA. Demand anything except. Can't we all just get along and maybe we? We should sit down and have conversations with multi felons who have recently been incarcerated for beating the crap out of people. Yeah, that's what they're going to want to do. So this is our capital. The this is our history. This is the seat of state government. It's up to us if it's not up to them and I thank you for the car, thank you Scott I appreciate it I. Appreciate Your patience as well. Who is holding the longest year two or two or three all right? Let's go to Dave. I believe Dave Welcome to the program. Big Year used to work downtown at the university, and it's just changed so much since two thousand six is pathetic, but you know there's a couple of things that you could do. You could protest peaceably now out of the mayor's house and. Say resigned mayor, or whatever you have to do or having a ton of own at the. Governor's mansion. Let's set up our own little. What like a right-wing autonomous zone? In the bluff right on the lake. It's a lovely property. I've been there. Absolutely come up by boat and fish off the pier and have a fun time. Yeah I. Don't think that's a terrible idea at all. We'll just sit up our our law enforcement autonomous zone and we will demand that. The rule of law actually be enforced in the city of Madison. then. Of course, we will accept that the rule of law would be enforced against us these remember. Some of this stuff would actually be requiring some acts of civil disobedience here, folks. And unlike you. Go ahead. You would get the National Guard if you get to the governor's mansion, you have the National Guard there in thirty seconds. We just want the National Guard Tony. Even do we have to have people grill and brought outside your house to do this, do we half actually March and patrol the streets of the city of Madison before you're actually able to do this to defend civil rights and to defend the rule of law. For your show. He did actually come out and say that he's thinking about bringing the national guardian. He's thinking about it I say a few a few hundred people open carrying downtown I. Think would probably get that thought process moving along here, don't. Firebomb the capital. I think they tried to do that last night. That was one of the buildings they tried to get into, but could not actually access. That so they tried to do that. Dave. Thanks very much for the call I appreciate. I'm trying to burn through some some of. That light is blue. Welcome Andy. I mean Waukesha resident than I thought to myself. If I took my daughters, our sidewalk chalk I was going to go up to Madison with my open Kerry and simply just take the shot. Put It on the ground and make what make us circle a lawn chair in the middle of it. And say all lives matter with my sign and say stay out of my. This is my autonomous they out of. I think we're going to need more than we like. Five hundred people do that. That'd be awesome. People. That would be awesome if it's just you I worry for you. Lose one last little thing, Vicki my father has been a police officer for fifty one years. He's still working as a police officer. He's seventy years of age, and he is of the Capitol Police, but he works out of Milwaukee. and. He stands with US becky. I think bouncer. The police do. I do agree. Yes, yes, let me read you this. Your Dad's a police officer I just got this from fellow who son works for the Madison Police Department quote he was in full riot gear last night, and they stood down while rioters had full reign of downtown. He said the rioters were allowed to run around downtown at will, with no response dispatch was in fear of being overrun by the mob. I am fearful for my son's life and the life of other officers. Yeah. My question here is how come how come if we know that that is going to be taking place, why is it? We cannot get a republican mob up there. Simply. Shut them down at the cops will not do just make them stand down and not destroy A. Yeah that's what I mean. It's GonNa. I think ultimately what it is going to take, and it's going to take people to be willing to commit to this until the governor is willing to commit under his authority, and only his Authority National Guard. Remember what I read. These are people who have been. The police have been ordered to stand down. Even though they knew that the rioters were gonNA firebomb. Firebomb, the city county building, even as the firebombing was taken place, even as nine one one dispatchers and juveniles and people who are needing to be evacuated from that building through fire and smoke and police officers still stood down, and in fact, if you go on Marquand Clark's facebook page, his facebook page is called Sire. SL R. E. G. Q.. He posted a video bragging about how the police took. Took a step eight blocks back. When when they were told to leave, the police were told to leave by the rioters, and so, what did they do? They moved back eight blocks. So when they were told to leave by the rioters, they pretty much did. That's what we've got going in the capital city here. I'M GONNA. Take One more call here and then. I gotTa take a quick break and we're gonNA come back with more on this Chris Welcome to the program. If I was running. If anybody's talks Fox last night, there was the woman from Venezuela. And she was describing how the country little by little was destroyed and taken over, and she is saying that we're not aware that this is happening to our nation nationwide. Yeah. I saw that I think a lot of people saw. That video is a young lady from Venezuela who said listen. Very Shock. Took down the statues and Shabas erase the history and Chevette. Let us watch movies, and then he wouldn't let us read books. And then he controlled the kind of information. We could share with each other, and then he control the information in the schools, and the and we are watching it happen as we speak Chris. I know. I don't know I'm from Europe. We lost our country in in Europe and I'm. We're going through this all over again. Remember President. Obama saying that we're going to necessarily transferring this nation. Well, we're they're doing it. Has Anybody liked the transformation I. Wonder how Tim Carpenter likes to transformation. Thanks for the call Chris. Appreciate the phone call. We gotta take a break here. This is the Vicki McKenna show. We're GONNA come back with our panel Brian Shimmying. A Madison Lifer. This is someone who's lived his entire life in this city in fact today I have been talking to people who've lived their entire lives in the city and our without words to describe. How. How recognizable it is, somebody emailed me and said it's not Madison. It's Benghazi. Pretty much at this point unless we do something to stop it. We'll be right back. This is the Vicki McKenna show. Back to the program, let me just read this. It's just came to me. This is a crime that didn't get anybody's attention. That took place last night as well in addition to the firebombing, and the stealing of the tow truck, and the destruction of the Christian Hag and forward statues, and the mayhem, and the and the riots, and the broken glass, and the beating up of a state Senator this. This is a twenty eight year old son, prairie man beaten and robbed by protesters after he inadvertently turned into their path as he drove home from Williamson, St John Nolan drive last night. The victim was on the way to a hospital to pick up his girlfriend. At the time he was attacked. He said it began when a member of the protest group through a bicycle, his car causing damage the. The victim got out to ask the man why he had done this and was quickly surrounded by an estimated fifty people was punched by several, and ended up in the fetal position on the ground, trying to protect himself from blows and kicks while this was happening. Someone took his wallet when they quote. Protesters moved on. He returned to his car to find. The windows smashed out in his cell phone. Phone gone. The victim ended up in hospital with painful, but not life threatening injuries. This is one of the many acts of overnight violence being investigated by the Madison. Police Department anybody with information is asked to call call Madison Crime Stoppers Brian Shimmying you grew up in this city. The this is starting to this is starting to smell of the time that that that gave us the Sterling Hall era. Yeah as I mentioned on the show before when they when they bombed sterling hall, it shook our whole house. It shook the neighborhood and literally shook the city. It was such a big explosion, so I've smelled the tear gas of seeing the riots, the rock throwing the burnings, the all of that and so i. You know what the difference is between now and then. Then then you had law enforcement now you don't not because the street cops don't. They can get this under control in five minutes. This city and this state a Democrat governor, a Democrat Lieutenant Governor. You have a Democrat County executive a- democrat mayor, all of the levers of law enforcement on the Capitol Square literally every lever of law enforcement and the National Guard. Guard are in the hands of like three people all Liberal Democrats and last night they allowed our state capital to be attacked. They pulled statues over dragged one down to the lake and threw it in the lake, attacked a member of the state Senate, who bought for an inch or two one way or the other getting could be dead and laying in the. The coroner's office right now, and it was allowed to happen. It didn't happen. It was allow Iraq to half are racked, and that is why I'm saying that it's now up to the of Wisconsin to defend your capital our history. This is not the city of Madison's property. This is the state of Wisconsin. If you are in west Shara if you are in. Somewhere in the in the door county region anywhere. If you're listening on Iheart, this is your capital and your history. This does not belong to Marquand M Clark twenty two year old people felon who just got out of prison. This belonged Satcher Roads Conway Hashtag de-fund police. This doesn't belong to Tony. Hashtag, de-fund, police, or Josh call who's Hashtag Joe Biden because he's not even interested in talking about this Brian I think we could get the national guard deployed quickly if a whole bunch of citizens came down to Madison and patrol, the Capitol Square in the State Street area with baseball, bats and golf clubs and open carried firearms the problem is this governor and this administration. Oh they deploy the national. Guard alright against US course. They would imply of against us. Listen three times. Times a now with three o'clock three hours ago, our Lieutenant Governor. This is three hours. Go not yesterday, not the day before yesterday three hours ago in the shadow of this incident, Mandela Barnes says this they have fanned the flames of hate and shocked and chagrined when there's a blaze, this includes influencing the most destructive policy decisions to stirring up emotions with the most hateful one side of discourse, pending communities against one another no denunciation, no putting the blame where it is. Except on the other side arm ten governor. Three hours ago, blamed law abiding citizens while for what happened at the Capitol. That guy that guy ought to be forced to resign, he should he? That is so offensive. He should be forced to resign. Folks, I'm GonNa have to take break here so for those of you joining me for the Madison Side Eight, seven, seven to three, five, thirteen ten. We'll get some more calls here. Coming up on the program, Brian Ching stick around if you don't mind, this is the Vicki McKenna show.

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Conservatives Need to Stand and be Counted

Vicki McKenna

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Conservatives Need to Stand and be Counted

"Broadcasting Tell Planet. Madison the Bruce City and the world on iheartradio. This is Vicky mechanics. To be a part of the program called Hotel Gaming Wisconsin dells toll, free line at Eight, seven, seven to three, five thirteen. or Email Vicky at WNBA dot com now here's. Welcome to the Program I'm thinking McKenna. Took my My Friday, Mental Health Day. Now. We have to take vacation. We can't take it all in one. One Long Block for a bit. So I'm just you know? Sliding in. Days off here and there unpaid, but hey. It is the it's the wages of covid. That's what it is. We are going to talk about covid on the program specifically the. Utter. Haphazard Arbitrary Way, the nation dull with Cova here in Wisconsin, the arbitrary and haphazard way we dealt with it, which has stranded tens of thousands of people without a means to support themselves still. Ten weeks later. Still. So Yeah Tony while he's. Figuring out ways to secretly record legislative leaders and then giving a tip. To the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel spending a Lotta time setting up that little political gambit. Spending. No time. Trying to solve the crisis that continues in the Department of Workforce Development Not Getting people connected. To their unemployment. So. Yeah. You've still got people who can't find jobs. Far fewer jobs you have people whose hold category of career has been eliminated, and and these are people who are now in the. We don't care about you category any longer. because. Tony ears would rather fixate on the allegedly racist police so anyway we'll get to all of that stuff coming up speaking of the allegedly racist police, if you say things, certain things in defensive law, enforcement and defense of. Peace and order in defense of truth in defense of a balance and context jewel information that would give people a way to understand what's going on in America right now? You can lose your job. You could lose your job at a time where new jobs are hard to come by talk with a gentleman? Who has been threatened with his job? Has Been threatened. With in his career. So that he could likely not receive an appointment at a new position. Simply for saying things like hey, we don't have an epidemic of Police Racist Violence In America so William Jacobson Cornell professor, also the person who runs the legal insurrection blog. Many of you may be familiar with that particular blog. Is going to join me on the program. He had the temerity say that the black lives matter organization is a Fascist Neo Marxist revolutionary organization that wants to tear America down. That is demonstrably true. He said that police violence against people of Color. Is Statistically. Noise in the numbers. That's demonstrably true. He said that police officers. Are Far more inclined to commit acts of violence against white offenders, then black offenders. That's demonstrably true. And for that. He is now targeted for elimination from his position and he is targeted for. Being ostracized from being able to land another position at another university, so we'll get to that on the program as well before I move on. This just in. The Wisconsin legislative reference. Bureau has sent. Senate majority leader Scott Fitzgerald in an illegal opinion. On whether or not, it is a felony. To secretly record a phone call. Between Governor Eve irs the legal counsel for governor. Speaker Robin Voss and Senate majority. Leader Scott Fitzgerald in their legal counsel. Is it illegal for someone to secretly record that conversation? Legislative Reference Bureau says. Yeah. It actually is if the parties to that conversation did not give permission for the conversation to be recorded. It is indeed a felony. So we'll come to that. Come back to that on the program as well. Take a quick break. Check in with Professor William Jacobson from Cornell Law. Who May Not Be Professor William Jacobson from Cornell. Law For much longer. That's coming up next. This is Vicki McKenna. Show I'll be right back. Welcome back! He mechanics show. What's going on it seems is not only do. We have pop up riots all across the United States that seem well. Let's just say planned. And it continued pressure emanating out of those riots that now. Has. Captured completely captured. The narrative creators of the United States the politicians the media, so if you. Before, you could even catch your breath. You discovered that if you wanted to tell the truth. About black lives matters a group. Capital B. Capital L. Capital, M., t. m. the group you can go find them at black lives matter dot org on the Internet. If you wanted to tell the truth about that organization being a Fascist Neo Marxist, anti-american, pro, revolutionary, anti-capitalist pro-communist. Anti Semitic organization. Before you can even catch your breath, you realize that by criticizing the organization. You were labeled a Nazi Klansman racist etc. Etc William Jacobson one of those people. He's been writing legal insurrection blog for a long long time. Teaching at Cornell Law School as well Professor William. Jacobson is on the phone with me right now. And all you did. Sir was and I was relying on your excellent reporting. All you did was highlight. The origins of this organization on the origins of this anti-american movement separate them from well-meaning people who who are upset about police, brutality, racism and for that. People are trying to get. You fired welcome to the show. Thank you for having me aren't quite correct. Been Teaching. A Cornell lost twelve years I've had periodic attached on because conservative positions, but nothing like taking place now because a week or two ago, I wrote a couple of post on my website. Legal Insurrection about the origins of the black lives matter movement, because I cover dated, pine at covered it in two, thousand, thirteen in two, thousand fourteen, and I watched Howard emerged initially from the Trayvon Martin case, but most prominently from the Michael Brown tapes and the narrative that was established in Ferguson and the black lives matter narrative. That list that Michael Brown was shocked with hands up. Don't shoot. And that that. pity demise, a police brutality, and the absolute heartlessness of the Khalif date toward black Americans that narrative however was completely fall. He Justice Department under the Obama Administration not to something that equation didn't exhaustive investigation and found that that never happened that Michael Brown was not shop with his hands up for thing don't to. He was shot after he punched a policeman in the face in target field, his weapon, his service weapon, he was shocked one and he made a second charge as a policeman, and was shot again and died so this entire narrative of how black lives matter came into being is a fabrication but it. It is it fabrication that has extremely important implications for today, because if you've watched any of the videos of people protesting probably thinking that Michael Brown. incident actually happened the way they've been told your chanting hands up. Don't shoot in twenty twenty, even though it's a fabrication and I I pointed that out now that a lot of people I also pointed out that founders of the black lives matter movement back in two, thousand, thirteen, two, thousand, fourteen were extreme less waivers, and that they did not have the country's interest heart, and they have created a movement which has been mainstreamed, and has an offense co-opted legitimate issues. Issues about policing. I am fully on board there. We need to do a better job. It's been the anybody who retreated treated the way. The George Floyd was what criminal charges get. We'll see when there's a trial, but that has been co opted by movement, which created a false narrative of widespread heartless police, so they're now demanding to defunding dismantle police department, and also very anti capitalist sort of agenda to those original founders, which makes its way into some of the things were going on and I also very harshly criticized the rioting, and the looting, and I called for the federal government to prosecute the people who coordinated that. That finally so in react to that and reacting to that there have been efforts to get me fired have been efforts to get me denounced by the law school, which they succeeded in doing there in other efforts by students underway to somehow label me as a racist or something like that. When in fact, I would propose it. I'm the one who actually cares about black lives as opposed to the people who have twisted this whole debate into a very anti capitalist in equally narrative. So here's the thing you're getting your being told you should be fired and you should not be hired at any other institution. Upon your dismissal. Because you criticize the anti-american pro-communist anti-capitalist. Antisemitic by the way origins of the group black lives matter. You didn't criticize peaceful protesters who maybe even are? Gently criticizing peaceful protesters who are conned by. bought the organizations that are working to fund across America a multi level insurrection. Now have the media and everybody else saying if you criticize it at all, you tell the truth, you tell the truth about actual police shootings. You tell the truth about Michael Brown. You tell the truth about Trayvon Martin. Tell the truth about any of this your racist. How do we get there? How did we get from? You know we're all sympathetic in the case of the George. George Floyd shooting everybody sees the video and we're all on the same side here you know everybody's horrified by the video in in lightning with lightning speed now if you don't support an anti-american organization that wants to fund, the police wants to pull apart the rule of law that wants to destroy due process at once up end institutions destroy monuments destroy private property, et Cetera, et Cetera. You're here are nothing more than a than a jack booted thugs racist klansmen. Well I got to the point where we are now cost. This has been a tactic that has been used very successfully over the year to get people to shut up, but now it has really been put on steroids because of the public outrage over towards Floyd, and because now they have corporate power behind them, millions of dollars flowing into their coffers, and the the concept of proper policing and protecting people has been completely merged into the. Movement and so blurred the line, and that's the problem they they found that this has worked well in the past, and so they're still doing it and we're seeing throughout the country. Particularly on campuses there have been reports of many professors who've been removed or threatened with firing, because they simply want to hold everybody to the same standard, so it's really a very terrible thing I mean ever. Ever since I went public with this last Thursday. What was happening to me I? received several hundred emails from people of support. Who feel that they're going through the same thing just gear. They're afraid to talk at work. Because being labeled a racist is one of the worst things you can be labeled this career ending his job ending and when it's false, it causes people to be quiet. Very very bad. We over the weekend emerged a ladder that was. Extensively written by a history professor or someone attached to the History Department of the University of California Berkeley and this was shared viral. I'm not sure if it's still available. If it's been shut down, but I believe you can still find this letter. I put it out. A lot of people did and the professor, a professor I'm assuming of color detailed exactly what you just said I'm too afraid to put my name on this I'm very very worried about the rejection of the truth in favor of a narrative that that end goal is is political power, not American political power, but just raw political power, and the entire thing was it was a takedown of various different lies that have been peddled by the press that are now being used to try to cancel. People for you know to to borrow a phrase. And, this professor wrote in a in a very long letter, D. tailing the the problem with telling the truth and the problem with putting his name on his complaint, and I found that distressing when the UCLA UCLA professor refuse to not great black students. He was told it. Pack it up and go. There was I. Believe Louisiana University of Louisiana professor who wanted to then cleanse the? The student body of anybody who is saying things like. Oh, by the way we don't have an epidemic of police violence in the United States. Any and it just starts to snowball I. Mean it's it's. It's gotten to the point where people are afraid to say anything they just figure. We'll just wait around for election day but Professor Jacobson I'm worried that's going to be too late. Well I. Think the only place that people really have cry to express their views is in fact, in the voting booth or in your mail in ballot. If that's what it comes down to so I, think that it is a situation where. You could have a surprise I'm not predicting. The polls are wrong all that sort of stuff. But so many people are being driven underground in this environment. Some random pollster cold you up and asked you questions, who that is right of Spencer would dare actually answer the question who you know when you don't know who it is actually on the other line. You don't know if it will be revealed you don't know could cost you your job so I suspect. We will find out in November, but I suspect that maybe more so than in other years there are a lot of people who just take every measure to stay out of trouble with the you know the online mob, and therefore not going to answer them, but the the voting booth is all people have. Because the culture has been completely dominated. By by. I agree with you. The culture has been completely totally dominated completely taken over so that folks are actually. People in Conservative talk radio. We're sitting here thinking. When are they going to come after us? Soon enough, no doubt professor. William Jacobson the blog. It's must-read every day. Please go to legal insurrection dot. COM is legal insurrection dot com and my guest is Professor William Jacobson. Who is the one who runs that blog writes that blog, but also of Cornell Law as well. Thank you Sir for coming on my program today. Have you. We'll take a quick break here. This is the Vicki McKenna show who who? Would admit to upholster to anyone. I I would I, would, would you? We'll be right back. Welcome back eight seven seven to three, five, thirteen ten. I was driving all over the place over the past four days in southern Wisconsin not all over the place Oliver. Wisconsin and southern Wisconsin going into the wild counties into. The Dan of of Lunacy Planet Madison and Something that that Professor Jacobsen said. I actually commented on this at my husband in the car. Where all the right wing bumper stickers. Every now and again you'll see one. But we're all the right wing bumperstickers. Where's the trump bumper stickers? And I think in even in the wild counties. Where are they? The answers easy. It's not that there aren't trump supporters in the wild counties that there aren't people who support conservative values. Obviously, this is the Dende the the the helms deep of Wisconsin conservatism. But. You don't want to advertise it. How come! Why don't you want to advertise it? You don't want to advertise it because you don't want anything to happen to your car. You don't want to advertise it because you don't want to come out and see somebody has keyed. Your car has done something. It probably won't happen. Right, but you're on the off chance that it could. To and far between. Now you drive into. Madison, and every other person has got a planned parenthood sticker. Black lives matter some climate change sticker. Something tammy Baldwin Elizabeth Warren Bernie Sanders something. They're everywhere. It's safe, right? To put your left-wing bumper sticker on your car, because nobody on our. Team our team conservative is going to trash car for that sticker. You might roll your eyes. You'RE NOT GONNA. You're not going. Get Out and key someone's carbon. Afraid. That might happen to you why? This is part of our problem. This is part of our problem. It doesn't seem like to the people out there who are afraid to speak that there's anybody who's got their back. That's part of our. It doesn't seem like we have anyone out there. That's safe. What is it a problem because if you don't give someone a sense? That they can speak up. Take the chance. And resist the Cultural Annihilation of their freedom of speech. They're not gonNA, do it. They're going to do what everybody else's put their hands down I. Just don't want any trouble. I'm just going to wait till I go to the ballot box you don't want. Black lives matter the groups that are supporting them the sunrise movement. The Soros organizations want to eliminate that ballot box. You get that, right? There's an assault on the Electoral College. There is an assault on fair elections right now in Wisconsin you have organizations that are trying to make it possible for people who don't live here to vote in our elections. Now I know it's tough. It's harder than it sounds. You just stick bumper sticker on your car. But unless conservative start to to appear stand and be counted. The fear of being canceled. Will eventually make it impossible for us, and maybe not this coming election, but maybe the next one or the one after that and. GM welcome to the program. Vicki. I've had similar things to my vehicle in town. I learned way back in two thousand two have anything conservative. Republican vehicle. It will be vandalized. And ATTACK NRA stickers my car and they've had people spray painting murderer across the car with an air up to the car to the sticker. and. East wash that has trump flag flying the front porch. She's her house vandalized. It's true because you can pick off people one at a time and what ends up happening is that other people say well? I don't want that to happen to me. I'M NOT GONNA fly that trump flag that that is bold by the way a woman in matters down almost in downtown, Madison flying a trump flag. That is pretty bold, but this the simple truth is. Conservatives, I understand that you don't want to get your car trashed, but conservatives are hiding behind their blinds, and maybe it's not sticking a sticker on your car. Maybe it is just being willing to stand up and be counted. Look in Madison Wisconsin. To support the Madison. Police Department in the city is perilous perilous. Thanks for thanks for the call Jim, but it's in. That's simply because people don't want to say that they do it. It. Maybe they do, maybe they're. They're all silently. In favor of the peace and order in silently they're sick and tired of their streets, being shut down or their schools being destroyed or cast raining, but they're not standing up and saying anything, but he's the one to do. It's only a handful and it's easy to pick them off. It's really easy to pick off the person who makes themselves obvious, but if there's more people. People making themselves obvious. Maybe it's not in Madison Wisconsin because it's brave to do it in Madison Wisconsin. It's not that brave to do what in Waukesha, it's not brave to do it in Brookefield. It's not brave to do it. menominee falls. It's not brave to do it. In Germantown, these are places where it's not writing. The next chapter in profiles encouraged. Stick around the back of your car to stand up and be counted. Counted to be willing to show up, I had a friend of mine who texted after David. Clarke filled in for me on Friday and said. Where's the rallies? Mickey the rallies? Can we do a rally? What do you think and I said? Yeah, good idea would show up at the rallies if they're not willing to put a bumper sticker on your. Will you show up at a rally for law enforcement? Would you show up? The left is out there. They're trying to pick people off one by one, and they count on young people perceiving there is no argument against them, while if the young people never see anybody, stand up with a rational argument against tearing down downtown's rioting looting, burning things beating people up and lying. If? They don't see their parents if they don't see anybody in the community standing up for that against that then what are they going to take away from that? Bob Welcome to the program. Actually I go to a rally I was at the the one that they had for the You know the against the shutdown, but here's what happened to me just last week on. Thursday, I was park parking the walgreens. On in Madison and all sudden, a guy pulled up next year that stop waste and starts screaming at me how he's going to beat me up. I just what the heck's that about you know and then the light change Offi went well I. Have a sticker on the back of my car. Is trump? You're the one. Yeah here. Here's the deal if I made I put the sticker on a piece of magnetic material. Just in case I'm in a in a in a bad area got was there. Yeah I know I know what you're saying. I G for doing it because I think it takes guts. I know some people who've actually put their their stickers on Magnusson. That with they parked somewhere and they're worried about their car. Getting trashed, they can remove the stickers. Their car doesn't get trashed but again. There's a handful of people who are willing to do this. And some of them have been have been forced to pay dearly. For being willing to be bold, enough and brave enough in Dane County even. To stand and be counted as conservatives. They're easy to pick off. We're all the people in the places where standing and being counted as conservatives is not that difficult. Where are you? That's the problem is if you if you go across? Wisconsin and you never see anyone and I mean honestly, and you never see anybody willing to push back there, too afraid to speak to afraid to speak even in a line as they're waiting to check out there too afraid to have a conversation. They're too afraid to engage their too afraid to explain why what we are seeing right now in our culture is a is. Is a warping of truth. It is a it is a complete manipulation of reality. It isn't reflective of anything real at all. Where are people who are who are on facebook who are willing to stand up and tell stories about their cousin or their uncle or their dad or Grandpa who served as an honorable member of law enforcement who served as somebody who was there to help people who are under assault or under attack? Or people whose whose grandparents with Martin Luther King Junior. It's because everyone is afraid to say anything, and it's just waiting around your nice people. You don't WanNa. TEAR IT UP! You don't WANNA get into a row with someone. You're waiting around for election day. The left wants to do away with Election Day. That's my concern. And by the time we we get our wits about us and say all right. We'll wait for trump to have a rally. I'll go to a trump rally. We'll wait for something like that or I'll wait until I get to go to the polls. In the meantime you've got people who are losing their jobs. Losing their jobs, would you stand up and defend a CO worker who said something like the organization? Black Lives Black Lives Matter A NEO-FASCIST NEO Marxist. anti-american organization founded by revolutionary leftist to hate Israel. Would you be willing to stand up for that person? If the boss decided that it was too risky for human resources to keep that guy around, would you stand up with all of the people in your office or all of the people at work, say hey. That guy did nothing wrong. He simply told the truth. I'm GonNa take a quick break seven seven to three, five, thirteen ten. He mechanics show. If you look! Eh! Matt. TB has a piece on this. If you look at some of the other stories I mean even the daily beast has done stories about people who are saying really benign things like we need police We can't let criminals run the streets. You know really benign things like that. Or you know it's not racist to say. Riots are wrong. Really Benign things like that. People are getting attacked. There that. People are calling corporate vice presidents and trying to get them fired. People are doing this to little little people who are just working at a bit a small mom and pop shop. And that's because for years we have not stood and demanded that we counted as a force election after election. Even though we've shown ourselves, we've still let the narrative be claimed by Insane People Rob Welcome to the program. I was just you know. I've had a long friends have draft was? Still Talk to me on unless. We've got some teacher friends that were over this week and having a chat with on you know I was talking about. The fact of the matter. Yes, maybe the police need to be revised. Unions need to be revised the same way the teachers unions they protect people, but that's the way they're organized. So. We had that conversation this kind of in the middle of it. Then then we're talking on many of our brothers and sisters shutdown this weekend, bathroom, brothers and sisters. You know, and you know there is well you can't talk about that. Well, you know about the achievement Cap Paolo, many of these kids that read and basic math that I met when I used to want restaurant. That can't function in society. Why aren't we having those conversation? Why am I labeled as? He's like? You can't talk that stuff so I'm a racist for bringing up fact of matter. I don't keep my mouth shut and you know I. Don't own my own business anymore so i. have to be careful where I say what I do. I represent the somebody else's money, but it's pathetic. We can't have simple conversating I remember back on section eight and Mac ten such eight came through used of Akron and on the show. Do Magin the windfall of we talked to a Democrat right now on your radio station. If a Democrat would actually sit down and have a conversation that didn't involve just simply accepting a warped narrative of an e of. Reality that is nothing that any real person experiences that would be amazing. That doesn't happen. Yes they wouldn't. Their friends would call them up and tell them they would never speak to them again. You're exactly right. The cocktail class would no longer get the invitations. They wouldn't have friends and they don't want to hang out with us. Let's face it not a lot of them like to hang out at the gun. Range ranges right. Yeah? Keeper fight over here. People you know protect yourselves. Don't do stuff in places where you're worried that you might get. Vandalized or beat up, but you know I, but stand and be counted be smart. Count. Thank you appreciate a drive time to get to one more one more who? Who who's I don't know who's next? Dave all right. Sorry about that. Dave Welcome to the program. Vicky Hey Dave. I just wanted to say. The Democrat Party is nothing more than the KKK and some of black lives matter. It's just falling in line to take people civil liberty in a push hate crimes on people, and you know reward people for Hey. Where Donald Comeback but in my own neighborhood I would be thrown. I will have Rockstar I. Don't live in a world where I have to you know feel a cautious about being meet, and that's what the Democratic Party is all about, but we know the Democratic Party's crazy, but I'm pissed that the Republican Party for emboldening not standing up for anything gone along with like. Given all of our medicines to be made in China. Public Party had played this game with their people too, and I don't appreciate. No one stood up for donald trump Lindsey Graham phony. They all come on TV and talk loud and the one that hurt me. The most was Trey Goudy. He knew what was going on behind closed doors. Everyone said that was no collusion in every day. Even, Hannity, I like I like Hannity on TV, and say well, we know. What, commotion the World What Russia Did A. Post that Collusion Act, they try to act like Russia, had a big finger on America in all of the Republicans players game, but not only that at the end of the day everybody that lives in their little bubble that means that white bubble talking about. GINGRAS only I'm walking police to go on strike. You know when you never been robbed, and you never have to call the police. It's easy to get rid of the police and watch how. In Armegeddon gets thrown on America I to right. I won't, they strike, give! A wake wakeup call and that's all. I gotTA say today Vicky. Thank you Dave for the phone call is. I really do. Because, it's because you said you said a lot in a short period of time. Where we've been the Republicans. Were elected Republicans where the Legislative Republicans right now. Putting forward Lucien. That says thank you to law enforcement in Wisconsin. Thank you very much for what you've done. Where the Democrats we'll put out a resolution on anything and everything nationally or locally. You had nothing coming from the Wisconsin Republican saying anything about the three year long lie that we were dragged through right up until impeachment about Russian collusion nothing. The narrative want. Truth of Horace Vacuum and the Republicans have given the truth of vacuum. This is Vicky mechanics show.

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Danger Gnome Podcast  Greg Gentle & CABDA Show director Jim Kersten

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Danger Gnome Podcast Greg Gentle & CABDA Show director Jim Kersten

"Welcome to the danger. Dome podcast September two two thousand and nine thousand nine hundred. We're starting to show with our newest biplane. Kurban test pilot and pending Senate confirmation our new apparel editor Greg Ragu gentle welcome to the danger. Thanks for that amazing intro that was that was impressive thing bill. I know thanks for mentioning that. I pushed the wrong button at first. Hey you know it's complex technology where you're up there in seeing cry and I'm down here and asked land. I wonder copy like yeah. One one point one point to the other on the other end of the date isn't it I know and I did the funny thing is i. I WANNA come up there there and ride because of the fat fish forty. Oh yeah that's it. That's an awesome an awesome awesome outta rates. I didn't catch at this year but I did the the inaugural season on my single speed and boy. It was not good choice. It was the classic night at a gun situation for me. I I was sending out. I couldn't keep up. I couldn't stay on real just because there was not a Lotta allocation changes. It took off the the the race director. He jumped out on A. ATV. There's local. Sta- trail and I think we were going thirty miles an hour for the first thirty minutes why in our Tester J. P. he he went up there and wrote a report about last year's race but Hey you know we had a we had tyler you banger on the Dosa fat podcast just to last less right at published and he did the crusher twenty five and he said he came in twenty second or something. Did you meet Tyler when you were at the crusher. Wow clown you know he probably. We probably overlapped a little bit now that you mentioned because if he was twenty second you were not far behind at all for me. I think there was only about four or five minutes between the group that I came in with and who was short the follow and and we probably were at some of the tops at the same time I just kind of leapfrogging throughout the day because it was a long day yeah I wondered if he was one of the characters you had described in your story. Steve or yeah so oddly oddly not. Everybody likes licensing humor by nicknaming but you know well well. You know I liked it and I'm. I'm the editor of the site so you know that's a that's one of the things that that has elevated you to editor of our apparel and well. We've been the good work. We've been working together on a couple of things that that are pretty interesting. You're just talking about your looking. Get your new showers pass testing apparel so and working on a kid spo- Jacket Review Yup Yup got that out this the they've sent me that early this summer and it was one of those situations are where I can't wait to wear this but it's going to be several months because it's ninety degrees outside and frankly. I don't think I'm going to put this thing on until temperature's death and finally this weekend. Give me a chance. It was a little rainy and a little cooler award windy or like yeah. This is exactly what this thing's designed for. Let's get it out right on so I guess that leads us into your a new test pilot. How did you negotiate that. How did how did you become one of our test pilots. I'm sure other people want to know aw how how this is done well. I you know I can't get way all the secrecy. That's because that just wouldn't be right not getting the I. I've been a mutual friend that that did some some other tests work for you. Guys dust in marsh. He lived in Oklahoma. He's about an hour away from me. He and I have done some racists together. Every once in a while we get together just ride neither out this way or or towards the my neck of the woods along the river valley and he we were just talking one day and he's like yeah. I gotTA finish up this article that I'm ready for that like DOT COM for this universe jacket or backpack remember exactly what it was that he was doing. You guys really. How long have you been doing that. He's like by greatest. Send him an email telling about yourself. Maybe I'll jump Joe help you you jump on so that's kind of the route had another friend. That was doing some similar stuff for you guys and reached out to you and you said well sure Greg. Let's you got no way I was like. No I gave. I gave you a writing test out that I think about you. You our website like yeah all right so that was that it was more than just a a nod. I had to actually prove my medical. It's it's kind of a good test because you have to find a way to diplomatically point out things that need improvement and that's part of the whole review process has you know you have to be diplomatic when you review things what you like what can be improved and you did a nice job of that that You you pointed out you know the the dichotomy in the whole magazine business model that reviewing stuff that Ed people buy ads from you so are you holding are those are those opinions real so you know. I think our side has very real real very real stuff. Man People Get mad. All the time are now. We are doing something right now that I did. You know shackled to the machine. You'll you'll. I'll I'll I'll be able truly attest to that point. You know to the to the compliment you offered it with my my balanced review so to speak you can i. I'm fortunate to have had like some actual professional training around coaching so that's it helps to be able to have you know that gives you a chance to to balance the positive and the negative in a way that's not going to be rate be little or shame individuals when you're. I'm really interested in helping them improve and elevate their game right on yeah exactly what I said boy so you know if you if you WANNA be a bike black-ribboned test pilot. All you have to do is you know be a wordsmith a pixel cowboy and two semi awesome things with your bike with any like you know what I'm saying a long history. Ah Yeah check out Greg's articles. He's an ace. This guy is Sustar so and you know you're our special guest on the show today so I guess my first probing question other than eventually needing eating a sample of your brain tissue. I want you to tell our listeners about your bike life from childhood to current day by. How much time do we have the new. The new format that we have. It's time isn't even real. Man is the real answer I I had A. I've got a deep long love for all things to wheels and and you know back to teaching I think the training wheels came off either voluntarily or involuntarily when I was like like four years old lived in Indiana at the time and I was gone. I was like all throughout the neighborhoods and getting trouble for you know not being incite but go back in the seventies you could do that moved to the beautiful town Lake Country of Kinda Milwaukee Wisconsin as seventy mindy too and continued my two wheel marauding around that neck of the woods about six seventh grade. The Mongoose arrived the Mongoose Super Goose. That was my first like pro level whole bike so I convinced my dad that racing. BMX was the most important thing in the universe to me and I got a chance to do that for a couple of seasons at the ranch and menominee falls Reno. There's any of our listeners have been around long enough to remember that track but that's really what let's set the fire for me both or really loving getting on a plane and turn it up and kind of fuelling I already had burning inside of me is kind of competitive at you. Boy I tell you those days racing at the track and Manami falls for some of my honest memories as a kid one one year they had the the Bob Herro trick team came out and just showed kids how to get Super Rad in the air on their bikes and my mind I was just blown and like this is it you know all in I'm all in on this so get through high school continue to just gotTa truck road by following my my heroine head on collisions with the a Chevy citation in downtown Okada Block when I was in ninth grade while Chevy citation ugliest car your here's what makes it so insidious. You can't see them. You're drafting behind a pickup truck with topper and looking through the side window yeah. I'm telling you completely off your rate. When you're when you're flying downtown in you take a left turn and you don't yeah you don't do too well this. It's a flashback for foreshore. The Chevy sell this is like I say two Dahmer's were of my heart earning of picking rocks at the marks farm in O'Connor lock to get my first kick ass road bike it was Baru. She wrote a and that thing was gone after that so sad no more run by from the after that so then you get into college you kind of drop off a little bit You don't have money for cool. Shiny things anymore and you get college in your loud. I got a liberal arts degree what the Helmet GonNa do now and I had a very very close friend who is somewhat infamous. Regionally as name is Hollywood Hollywood Henderson. He's had a bike shop in Minneapolis for a number of years and now he's working at one add more by studio and you looked at me and said did you come work with the shop with me and like I don't know anything about workmanlike the shop he's like don't worry about it so got back into biking do that and had some other friends that were racing mountain bikes at the time. Mrs Ninety. Maybe eighteen ninety six in got my first cool mountain bike. Actually you rewind. It was my second who will mountain bike my first one Bridgestone. Mb Too and that got stolen when I was in college yeah yeah that was awesome. That was like you know my you like getting back into cycling. Those like Wow Wanna get one of these you know saved my money again and got a really cool rigid full sun tour the tubing chrome moly steel mountain bike like that I thought was the needs the these needs as they say was sweet wher- that Kinda that Kinda commandeered by the money in saint all and I was like lists for awhile until I got back to the bike shop and I got a stump jumper shop I worked for was a was a specialized shopped often that was that was it Kinda took off started. You know I wasn't great a great mountain bike racer but I had some be Mexico so it didn't take me long to to to get those things figured out and I never was a super elite podium chaser racer the guy but I did pretty good and done it for ever since you know many reasons that you do but I still dropped in and in a couple of APPs with some of the boys when again very cool. There's there's a lot of parallels here. I'm I'm also had a childhood born in Indiana as well and I also my first mountain bike age twenty seven was specialized stump jumper or I'm sorry copper. are bright red win in nineteen eighty-six yeah had deer head. Shimono stuff on it non. Sis Big Magura motorcycle brake levers. I wish I had today but I don't know what I would make. I would make make a wind chime out of them because they probably way so that is that is that is pretty cool man. I you know I I hope our listeners like learn like learning about that that because it it gives a point of reference of the where you come from in your in your review process to Phil's fills it out for me anyway anyway. I've been fortunate to have a lot of friends in the industry over the years that has been very generous with me and and sharing products and give me a chance to try stuff that knew or just you know here. Take this out and beat on it for a while and let us know what you're thinking. You know never been in a like a formal fashion until connecting with that dot com to do the the reviews for product for you guys and that's the kind of fun evolution as a you know their life and just want to find things that are kind of fun to do and this is going to be one of so. Hollywood they would. How did you meet Hollywood at the things that we're all in the same circle of friends all my friends know. How would I've Murska. He's he's He's a he's an old friend he Jay and my wife Jody were mcat classmates smits at the Minneapolis College Burton Design and ninety so I knew him as he was moving up here from Iowa use a US the trap on Racer at the time and wanted to get into road racing and he's totally ramped it up to be the amazing race or that. He is today so back to the early ninety wander ninety two and the one that said hey dude get back into the game so I frankly it's still do I love his van man. I WanNa van that just ran beside you as this seems to be my My major contribution to most of the podcast now is just non-sequitur stream of conscious things like that but we do have several new podcasts here. You're on fat bike radio. D. Listened to to any of the new podcast. There's the you know I I haven't yet but I my of my day job puts me behind the wheel unfortunately for extended periods of time back and forth to my job and I'll get a chance to start streaming those yeah let me just interject the little a let me go over what those new podcasts are. We have the full spectrum cycling PODCASTS. That's every week so every every Wednesday you can call in seven one seven seven two seven two four five three and you can talk to some some dudes down there in Milwaukee that love biking and you can pinpoint events or just talk about whatever it's it's not fed by specific vic either we have a new show the burning bike podcasts that is spinner. Ryerson's a conversation around the campfire that when you can't call into but you could ride into you can find that that information on the show notes for the bike podcast this podcast. Is You know it's uncle Gomez this show. It's the danger engine on podcast where we do interviews of both are bipolar ribbon folks and industry people in November November. I'll be interviewing the product manager and the marketing manager of Salsa Bicycle Bicycles Salsa cycles about about all kinds of stuff that we can't talk about now. Oh I really don't even know but tell me they'll have stuff to talk to him and and Oh and our longest running show will the dose of Fat podcasts which is a trio at its spin arrived in Olaya rylance. Who is you know an elite level mountain bike racer and myself. That's we're recording show one forty nine this month and it'll be petty glades. Kotecki as subbing in for layovers Laya is she's deep in her training cave save pain gave for Bar g and going do epochs that we talked to her on our lascaux and then we'll hopefully we have a some sort of celebration for the One Hundred Fiftieth show we had a big Shindig for the hundred show on that one with live bands and whatnot not not but we've got to figure that stuff out you mentioned you mentioned the margin. That's that's one of the most you know for. Those of you really want to find yourself in new and different ways six. Go do the Margie gethin. It is both the hardest most exciting like I've ever been involved with. I'M GONNA missus year sadly because of a family they trip to Tahoe too little family reunion up there so we're going to miss it this year but thrown all my friends in in the opinion in the region that are going to go. Do it excited for you so get ready. You gotta go ride the flu. M- trail when you're in Tahoe man okay the F- Bloom F. L. U. M. E. as long as you're not afraid of heights because tons of exposure but you're couple of thousand feet up if ms perfectly beautiful gray granite fizzled out along the edgeware anywhere is just unbelievable views of Lake Tahoe though what what region of the lake is will be out that he'd you know where that is. is tugged welders. South Lake Tahoe like the California. That's where the heavenly is and there's North Lake Tahoe. It's it's it's a so if if North Lake Tahoe's twelve o'clock it's like at four o'clock in the Nevada Oughta side yeah I think so so it's a seven mile double track climb and then you ride along a lake AAC. That's not Lake Tahoe in the lake you ride between these two forty foot tall eggshell egg-shaped granite boulders and then your two thousand feet above Lake Tahoe on a six to eighteen eighteen inch single track that winds its way for. I don't remember how many miles but laureate is. What out of those trails where you just wanted you want to? Gawk and look out there. You really have to pay attention so that's the only thing that I would say. Stop take pictures and then ride with caution. That's that's the Dad's side of me coming out sorry I I understand. Well always say safety. Third Fun probably would rank up there in the top two. I don't know that's probably humor again. So you live in the What do you call the region of Wisconsin that you live in. I WANNA WANNA call the Saint Croix River Valley. That's that's pretty much. How I describe it. I tell people where I live and they give me the kind of like their their wealth by rebounds. Oh Yeah Oh beautiful so yeah. It's were I live in between the town of Osceola in the town of Somerset Nice so we're we're kind of equidistant between those two small towns and they're on their the valley and yeah we lived in I grew up on the other end of the town. You lose to the twin cities in the eighties and mm spent twenty five years living in the city and both out in two thousand seven and have not regretted the main change at all so so. It's a gorgeous quiet amazing place to ride. There's the Willie Mountain bike trails sales and Saint Croix Falls. I can get down to the river Fal trails. wait till down in river falls forty five minutes from the metro so it's not terribly belonged to to get into any of the trail systems of their travel. Writing out here is pretty good and the road writings to prove you know. I I feel like I've just landed in the perfect price. Do what I love to do. Ride the bike nice so when you became a bike back in test pilot were were you aware that you were joining a gang having been members of gangs over the years that were of the two wheel nature at it. It didn't concern me as much as just wanted to know like what rights of passage initiation and my nephews door Nice Nice. It's it's it's it's nice to have a veteran of silly by gang hijinks on-board yeah you know growing up you know my my my young adult life in Minneapolis and Saint Paul Paul was a an amazing number of years because of the the the bike sure there but the thing is so awesome you know the the Minneapolis Mafia offi accrue and all the single speed dudes that just lucky to have a good time and really got loose on the bike and they're just awesome folks that the party in play with so- homemade this having that having that like accessibility to so the the groups and the folks that I used to ride race with and in the city but everyone I can coach them out to enjoy the countryside so that happens too nice we have we have a Minneapolis Mafia on. Og in Milwaukee Chris Zito he runs so so he he bring some of that flavor to Milwaukee but I been to a couple of befall has said experience a bit of that right and obviously I started as a young man writing a single speed bike but single speeding kind of introduced introduced me to that culture and you know it was like I phoned my people to have fun and get crazy and yeah sad you know just strip down the seriousness and let that go because that's not far to what that's about right right yeah the story on cars or coffins about the first single speed worlds in Minneapolis inspired me to you go out and buy a cheap paper boy bike a curvy mountain bike from Nash Bar by the frame and fork and builds it up as a single speed and road the piss out of that thing till I put like three or four cracks in it and then yeah it's just been roller coaster of fun bike since then how many titanium bikes can one man built and break break. Some of them still have a couple but yeah so. What do you have a fat bike right now. Oh yeah absolutely the he writing today. Yeah my my my I was a bear dri and loved riding that wanted to get something a little lighter. You're so I I was friendly with Lamar J. P. A. Frame and fork from some of the early iterations of the Lemaire fat bikes and that's still in my stable so it ride map for here's now j. p. was was a guest on our hundredth. Show Extravaganza. I have no doubt I run into into him every once in a while and he's always like who do you ride. What are the what are you reading now. You should write this. He's always he's always trying to get me to ride one of his bikes well. Oh Wow that's his job true. It is Kinda true but I have this one anyway yeah so the the bike for me is I don't see a lot of it in the winter season is I've got a a Kerala L. of other bikes that I like to ride both brother. Yeah I get I get to once at I should say this though it's not that I don't write it as much in the summertime as much much as it's a very very specific for winter that is be trading right on only use it to give my dog to run so we've got access to a big chuck land where we live so I'd rather the two hounds and cut them loose with me on the bike perfect for grassy writing which is great for running dogs. It's a it's. It's a better pace for the dogs rather than you know rather than running full out a sixteen miles an hour they can lope along at ten miles an hour and it they love it. They absolutely love it. Yeah I use. I use my bike for specific things in the summertime to you know like visiting swamp areas or writing Grassy double-track or writing the beach. You know there's there's some places around where I live like. There's a place called the Jefferson swamp and they have grassy double track that I can go back in its leg visiting It's like visiting Dinghies Zoo Manda. The wildlife is incredible. They're yeah every large species of bird in one spring right. I was like Geico fifteen species of of large bird Pelicans I saw on their migratory ignore north of Saint Croix falls follow. There's a region called the barons. It's a it's a natural unnatural area between grants bird and synchro falls that you can you can disappear back in there for miles and miles and miles double-track. ATV trail horse trail that governor owner not speak for us is encompassing that and the Willie Fight Club which I'm a affiliate up here we host our global fat like day and out of the Wolf Creek Tavern and like last year. I think we had about seventy caceres seventy writers who was a awesome turnout in one year. You know it's a little early in the season for snow so those are mostly written on the sandy in it's a lot of sand so it's awesome to have that for five are five inch tired at to drift through that without getting to suck in pulled sideways right at the beginning of the show he talked about. Tisch forty is that near Webster or know that term well webster is further north and think creek falls but kind of opposite opposite but east of a grant spurred so it's not it's not far but it doesn't cover the terrain. This is right along to think right river in webster further inland if you will can you paddle the Saint Croix is that a is that a river that can be negotiated. Kayak her her. Oh my God yeah it's gorgeous. It's it's a national scenic river way so it's it's really one of the cleanest river bodies of water her in the country. It's gorgeous and you can you can put in up near Cameron or winter. Not Winter. Me Are the name of the town that has the falls on the upper region but we put in. Danbury and Danbury is on the same state trail that Webster Webster's just south of there got the the Gandy dancer trail. Oh right on so maybe an opportunity to do some crafting there. Oh Yeah Yeah you could absolutely do that. You could you could ride all through the baron in right up through the barons and putting in the paddle back there. Oh aw that right on so my last question so if you had your choice of any you know fat bike to test. Which one would you WANNA test my goodness well. I've been very I'm very intrigued by that. Bear Claw. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah I I actually am scheduled to receive a Bo Jackson next week to a race the Haibin eater one hundred when one hundred K. gravel gravel race on that bike and do a review I I've been I've been eyeballing that Bo Jackson because of the exposure that taught the cat of merge in crusher fame and the nine oh six adventure team he he's been writing one of those for the past month or so and and there was a lot of talk about that as the like the secret weapon for the crusher than I didn't actually see anybody on one but this looking at the profile via the Pike itself that exposed me to the company and that I did a little deeper dive like oh well and carbon fat like they've got to Um and it's what's the name of the of the carbon advocate escapes me. It starts with a B. I have frank a titanium one where we're talking about reviewing that bike as well the frank titanium fed pike but I think that you would be more in line with ED low racy well we'll have to it's not the bail will fits both are that's it yep and are carbon carbon pathway with a really low stack height and no suspension correction so oh nice low slung. I would say legacy fat bike or legacy mountain by kind of geometry racy. I'd love to ride that Jason from bear. Claws is putting together some really interesting bikes that yeah I both of us can can get behind that. Well cool now. We'll try. We'll try and make your dreams come true here fed advocaat and that's what we're in. We're in the Fed by dream business. Oh anybody's up to the task Gomez. I know what you bringing the dreams alive. I know the silver tongue devil that I am well. I appreciate taking the time to come on the show and share with the readers in our listeners your bicycle fetish lifestyle any any parting words for the for the kids at home. I would just invitation for your listeners that Wanna come up and ride the woolly trails. We got an awesome awesome job of grooming those for the winter rides and the global. Oh I like the events that we throw out of the Wolf Creek Tavern so check it out ride this side of the state. There's some cool shift explore explore and Ryan up and do it killer. Who Will we'll have to. We'll have to try and create some sort of biker been field trip to. I don't know if I can guarantee global day for me 'cause now. I'm sure you've got. You've got going on that day but that there's other opportunities right. We've just oh yeah for sure but we we just got the agreement from the Corp folks the capital Offroad Folks de take care of the trails in our region to host the Lafayette Bike Day celebration at Camera County Park in Cambridge so we'll have a picnic shelter and will probably have finger sandwiches and I dunno chocolate Mousse this. What's the Baked Alaska. What is it the flaming Alaska Dessert. We'll have all that sweet baby aby nome on the COB. trail rides goat petting zoo with goats. The closure will there. CBS I actually said Hovercraft death races human sacrifice in my email to the into the corporate vice president and gave it the thumbs up he was like Oh yeah. No permit is required. Treatment sacrificed so yeah right on well. Go ride your bike or something. yeah better weather turns. We got some shit coming in today going to be nasty yeah. Jp and I are going to go ride from Milton to lettuce tomorrow morning and go through that whole elk release research area on gravel roads that probably in some spies half six foot tall grass growing in them just some recon and looks fabulous. I mean eighty degrees tomorrow so that I have to bring my Kinney Tab. My my my two piece bathing suit yeah Airbus with that visual. I will leave you to the rest of Your Day party on Wayne likewise likewise thicker. Hey we're back and Jim Kirsten. The show director of cab does going to give us a call on a SEC. Please let me introduce and welcome to the show Jim Kirsten. He's the show director of cab data which is an up and coming in a longtime running bicycle trade show within the show Jim. Thank you for having me problem. So tell the folks what does what does cab to stand for and how did this show start originally really stood for Chicago Area Bicycle Dealers Association that kind of definition has gone by the wayside as we expanded out of Chicago but the name still had some purchase so we we kept it around on my most of my clothes and my car already in the logo on it so we couldn't chain a- and you're in the eight four seven. I'm from the eight four seven so you're in Chicago right somewhere in the suburbs. I'm I'm on the very northwest corner of Chicago cool. I grew up displays dude all right. I'm in I'm in Jefferson Park area all right cool so when did cab to start. How long is this show been running so there was an original show that started in the late seven seven and that ran till about the year two thousand when fizzled out. Can we brought the show back under the kind of current Guidon vic years ago I went to some of those old shows in the old pheasant run back in the I guess it would have been the late eighties to the early ninety s when I worked at. ABC clery in Arlington Heights my my first job out of my folks owned a bicycle hi to store. That's how I kind of got aware that organization in history but my first job outside of shop when I was about thirteen with stuffing badgers at one of uh-huh oh cool and at that time only bicycle dealers it was a show just for dealers like most bicycle trade shows are but when you reincarnated reincarnated here or not reincarnating but the rebirth of it is open to consumers as well correct not correct no no although we're we're still seeing only Gotcha okay. I thought there was a there used to be just like one day or something allowed. Maybe we toyed around with it and we're still looking at options. One of the problems we have is a soon as we flip the switch and say we're GONNA. We're GONNA badge consumers. We're GONNA we're. GonNa have a you know and user participation. It needs to be successful when to turn out a bunch of numbers otherwise it'll be viewed as a failure and working king against us is the fact that our event held in the middle of the week encourage deliberately so if you can get a lock lock your door and go to a bike show for two days you want that to be in the middle of the winter in the middle of the week losing any business and if we were to flip the switch we wanted you know we'd have to hold on a weekend. so all the all the levers we tried playing with didn't work out so what we're working on moving forward and he was hosting a series of Demo events where we actually get the companies to show their demo plates and let people ride them and I think that has more potential to be successful on the grand nigger fearing nothing booth in a glass case someplace. Oh Yeah Yeah Outer Bikes success if you can point to that idea yet her. When did you take over as show director just showed up for my thins. I got that job when when we started the organization back in Twenty fifteen nice and is it still is still directed primarily at independent bicycle dealers and maybe you can share with our our listeners. What an independent bicycle dealers It's directed all bicycle dealers though we have a lot of the corporate owned folks as well come to us for training senior line stuff like that but an independent bicycle dealers something that's it's getting more and more rare they used to proliferate the industry but now they're getting to be relics but it's still still probably the majority of stores but independently owned operated. Did they make their own buying decisions. They decide what they're going to SPEC in their stores. what type of brands they're going to sell what model of those brands as opposed to do all of the corporate stores that get those decisions dictated to them. You'RE GONNA stock seventy percent of this line hearing to carry these five five model in these colors so it's it's kind of transforming in the industry now is how they handle that retail component so all the cool shops think yeah are independent school leaders. If you WANNA go buy a Santa Cruz somewhere or fat back Jack. It's probably going to be from an independent bike dealer. A lot of the brands like those Don't require a percentage of your floor space or your business right some of the larger brands. If you want to carry this you better carry ninety percent your your square footage has to be dedicated to our products amen when I hear that a lot from from by shop owners so you have expanded to now three shows and why don't you chair the dates and locations of three shows so mid-january we have our twenty twenty s in San Diego so we call kept a West That's the it should be burned into my brain. I think it's the fifteenth sixteenth of January after or that one we move everything moves further west. You are Chicago show Captain Mid West Twelfth and Thirteenth to February. Nice will be right here now for the show and that's bad. That's a new venue in Schamberg that is I've been to it uh-huh excellent. It's easy to get to their tons of restaurants and lodging surrounding that area shopping. If if that's what interests you there's even a kick ass bike trail just kinda right across one of the big highways there in Bussey would and so the book Australia. Oh Yeah it's once we finish up dot com yeah I was I was about to say it'd be you kinda cold and snowy but you guys have a problem with that yeah we like that and then once we wrap up in Chicago we had east further still and we who are New York show which is March eleventh and twelve. Is that New York City so we're technically northern New Jersey but so you can see Manhattan from it so it's in the Metro area. We're about we're about ten minutes outside of Manhattan The New York giants maybe where Jimmy Hoffa's we're in the middle complex very cool so three big shows kind of making it nationwide there west Central and east and the the thing about the you sent us out wrote as media outlets they caught my attention was the new cabinet top shops challenge share with our listeners how they can help nope get great shops the recognition that they deserve this is the first year we're doing it and we looked at a lot of these best bike shops ranking list listened a lot of them are either based on kind of arbitrary number data or they're based on secret shopper data go and I had had some problems with both of those because I don't really care what one of your employees did in one interaction on one random day and I also don't think that every shop should have the same numbers Matrix You can still be an excellent job if you're not telling a thousand bicycles a year. We wanted something. That was a bit more yeah. WE'RE GONNA ask open ended questions. We WanNa see how you dealt with with problems. What are some of the citizens you made the paid off water systems. You made that didn't pay off so we can you kinda use this put together. Some panel discussions at our events can help other shops not make the same mistakes Kinda create a conversation conversation about Where do we go from here from our shop is how do we elevated. What are some of the things other shops have done and there wasn't anything Kinda like that in existence so startling cool so how can how can our listeners help their shop out is is there album to sign up for the program until it out we kind of make his easiest possible so the website alive in about two weeks but get him to find out for it the more information the more shops we have kind of buying into it ain't no telling us their experiences and we don't we don't really care about financial or you know private debt or anything like that. It's it's more of a storytelling option cool well and we'll have a link in our show notes when that because public and will encourage our our folks in our dealers to get in there and tell their story. That sounds good anything else that that you. WanNa share about this this coming year anything else exciting. You invite us to do a podcast. Maybe from the Chicago. Show Oh you're right we we talked about it before creating an area for kind of podcasts and I wasn't able to interest in it as the media guy that goes to bike shows I like it when there's a little media center that might have a quiet room or area for us to put down on all of our junk and maybe some Wifi to get live updates to our to our readers but you know I'm gonNA space like that. Is You're talking about because I I have no idea what you need. If we can make it happen we will cool all right on. I appreciate you taking the time to share your story and I will look forward to seeing you in Chicago. Good luck in San Diego New York and wishing you a lot of success all right take care. Thanks all right. Let's our show this week. Hope you enjoyed it so hello to your bike for me on their pedal thing they like it. You'll like it. We like it. aloha migos the ooh Dan The ooh mm ooh uh.

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11-13-19 Can prison reform benefit Native offenders?

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11-13-19 Can prison reform benefit Native offenders?

"Welcome into native American calling from Studio Forty nine in Albuquerque on Monica Breen adjusting to society is often a challenge for people released from prison whether they served two years or twenty. US statistics says forty. Four percent of inmates released state. Prison get arrested again. Within a year this cycle contributes to prison overcrowding and since native people are overrepresented in prisons the cycle has a lasting effect on native communities next on native America calling or focus on ideas for prison reform and affected reentry rex. convex in this is National Native News Antonio Gonzales the Canton Asylum for insane Indians committed native Americans from around the country tree to a facility in South Dakota until the Early Nineteen Thirties and author is collecting stories as China. Lock it reports. Susan Birch has been conducting research for her book committed for about eleven years. She says Canton didn't keep good. Records between nineteen O two and nineteen thirty four but but estimates nearly four hundred people were committed. Birch says many people from the asylum ended up in other institutions of the time like boarding schools and orphanages manages all meant to dismantle indigenous lifeways. The ramifications of institutionalization is never born only by the people who were labelled labeled and taken to the cannon asylum but there can at the time and generation since are affected by those actions what happened to these individuals because they were never just case files they were cousins and aunties mothers daughters and grandparents. Birch says that history of institutionalizing Shin ties into to modern day issues. For example native American people are incarcerated and targeted for violent and sexual crimes at higher rates. Faith O.`Neil O'Neill has been researching her family's history and Canton for about thirty five years. She shared her story with the author. O.`Neil says her grandmother was taken from the Sisson sisson reservation to the asylum for talking back. I think she had like five or six kids at that time. Her husband so it was just pulling a whole family. Apart art you know over her disrespecting an Indian agent and I think that was so unfair and my great grandmother wrote letters and did everything thinks she could they also got like Congress people I guess involved in it and trying to get my grandmother release but it never happened so she spent the majority of her life over there. In Canton. O'Neal's mother was born in the Canton asylum but passed away. When O'Neill was young? She still hasn't been able to locate her. Grandmother's remains Burgess. Book committed is scheduled for release in two thousand twenty one for National Native News. I'm trying to lock it. In rapid city a native American can judge is delivering the invocation on the US House floor Wednesday afternoon as lead a Pueblo. Chief Justice Vernon teller is giving the opening prayer New Mexico Phyo Congresswoman deb Holland is welcoming teller as part of celebrations for native American heritage month. Teller a member of his lead. A Pueblo also served on the tribal tribal council and was the first female governor of the tribe in Nineteen eighty-seven Holland is recognizing colors achievements as a native woman and elected leadership ship roles some school officials in the Aclu of Wisconsin urging for the retirement of the menominee falls high school mascot. The public public was invited to weigh in on the issue this week during a school board meeting. WG BA reports those wanting to drop the Indians mascot say it perpetuates negative stereotypes while other say they take pride in the mascot. A number of Wisconsin School districts are reconsidering their Indian mascots and logos according according to the ACLU seventeen districts have urged the Wisconsin Association of school boards to lobby for State Law to remove offensive mascots. Lots and nicknames thirty one school district's have or use native American or tribal imagery as part of their mascots and logos. The menominee is falls. Also School Board is likely to take up the issue again. Later this month I'm Antonio Gonzalez and the national native news is produced by Kohana Broadcast Corporation with funding by the corporation for public broadcasting support by AARP AARP does might surprise you like sponsoring. The National American can Indian Housing Council conference in Las Vegas Nevada December ninth and tenth information at A. A. R. P. Dot. Org Support by Freedom Lodge inviting you to join the historical trauma masterclass. Twenty Twenty to provide cure and lighten the load for the next seven generations. honoration no charge for tribal members. Registration is March. Second Information at freedom. Lodge Dot Org mm-hmm native voice one the native American radio network. This is native America calling. I'm Monica Brain. Sitting in for Tara gatewood would nearly five hundred state. Prison inmates in Oklahoma were released from prison earlier this month. It's a result of prison reform. Laws passed by state. Lawmakers automakers to unburden the state's prison system. Most of the inmates were released where low level nonviolent offenders and some of those inmates are native of Americans. There's also an ongoing national effort to address overcrowding in prisons and sentencing disparities in the penal system a system that jails the most people per-capita compared to all other countries in addition native Americans and other people of color are disproportionately. I put behind bars. Native prisoner advocates. Say that access to culturally appropriate resources before during an after incarceration can help convicts. He'll an increase their chances of staying out of trouble. What kind of support is available to native people re entering your community? You're welcome to join the conversation perception by giving us a call at one. Eight hundred nine six two eight four eight episodes eight hundred nine nine native and if you spent some time in prison you're more than welcome to call in as well. You can even call in anonymously again. That number is one eight hundred nine nine. Six two eight four eight joining us from Oklahoma City. Is David Little Son. He's the director of the American Indian Criminal Justice Navigation Council and he's a citizen of the upon nation. Welcome to native America Calling David. Thank you very much David. You have personal experience With re entry you went to prison for manslaughter. Tell us about that well. I was It is We had a accident one evening and some some boys pulled in front of me. We had a accident and I hit the back end of them when they come out and then we have an accident and they were all right and but another lady had come over the hill and she'd been coming from a bar so she had hit the same car tonight. Hit the two the two guys that were in that car or standing on the other side of and kills one of them but instead of charging her they charged me you for being you know my main thing is because I was native American but they charged me with first degree manslaughter. Charge her for anything. So that's just how the justice was over here. You know. 'cause there's a lot of prejudice storch native Americans in Oklahoma and so you spent twenty years in prison for that yes I I got a thirty eight year sentence and I spent twenty eight years You know 'cause For the first eight or nine years I mean I was just mad mad at the world you know about sorry for myself and all of that towards the end it was time for me to either get up off my but start doing something to help myself and and I've seen all the struggles that I was going through in the people inside prisons that were going through a lot of struggles. You know even the ones that were getting getting out and they were there were some. That was that came back five six seven times that I knew of while I was still in there so I knew there was. There was something that I needed to do to step about. That's when I started changing my life to do what I needed to do to get myself out but also To help out anybody I can. What was was the first day outside of prison like for you? It was very very difficult. I mean 'cause you know I spent twenty years and so when you're when you're coming out you there's a lot of things that people don't understand that you don't just come out like you have a lot of problems you learn to be selfish official. Learn to be about you when you're inside but when you come out and you got a family and you gotta you gotTa break all that I come out I had. PTSD I got a a lot of the stuff. I've seen a lot of things I shouldn't have seen a man should not never seen but There's a lot of problems and we're we gotTA learn to deal deal with them. And I didn't know how to deal with the towel you know I started having you know everything that come in triggers. Coming up pop and things that I didn't know was there in my mind. Tell you know it was it just popped up and we have to deal with that and it was very hard. I couldn't go in restaurants I couldn't going stores or anything like that. 'cause it just you know they anxiety and panic attacks just got to me so I'm imagining engining. At some point then you reached out and you got some help with that Tell us about that experience. Well a lot of it was I you know I I 'cause there wasn't a lot of help I mean and and and I can't say that to everything because there was some help but it wasn't known old I mean there was a lot of the things even the few things that were out there. Nobody knew about him because nobody was telling nobody about them. So you know. That's one of the main reasons by Form this American Indian Criminal Justice Navigation Council is four main. It's about resources sources. You know it's about people that need help. I mean we also have a support group for families coming back together and we once a month all families at least kids everybody comes together and we just talk about you. Know 'cause my wife she had to go through things with me. If I was coming out show she learned to deal with things like that that and and then I. That was the things that I know what was going on with my mind so we all get together and we have. I mean a great time where they'll be tears shed it'll be All kinds of stuff going on you know some some bad feelings but you know we work through it. But that's what it's all about. It's about coming together and and support each other yet. Tell us a little bit more about The American Indian Criminal Justice Navigation Council. Okay a lot of that is that you know the things that I've been through. I know what what the inmate what the ex convicts GonNa need. When he comes I know if mindset coming out because a lot of people that have been in the system don't know what's GonNa Happen to this guy when it comes out? They don't know how he feels or anything like. Yeah so my thing is to just getting start talking to let him explain. 'cause there's a lot of things that they won't even know they're going to be going through and they go through it so so I sat down. I I get to talk to say. Hey here's this here's what you're going to go through. Here's what you're gonNA feel. Here's the challenge is what you're going to get. You know you gotta get your license. You gotta get all this stuff to kind of get back in the world but you also gotta it's about your family you have to have support from Coming out and going forward if you don't have any kind of support it's it's a it's a no chance there's just no chance you have to have support court and so we that's why we do we. We find where they're gonNa go where the families are going to go. I go in before now that I go back into prison. I go back seconds. I said guys that are about to leave. I ask them where they're going what they're gonNa do so they tell me a city I go to that city and I find out what what do you have for these guys coming out or tribal members. What do you have these guys you know? And then some of them are or some of them don't have anything But some of them. You have to be in a certain area to get help so what I'm doing here in. Oklahoma City is trying to do a central Hub where it don't no matter where you are what tribe you are. If you come to the city we can help you and that's what we're doing. We have sober leaving houses with food. Pantries we have clothing living. We have everything that we can that. We know that we can support these people coming out to help get them on their feet get their license everything that we can do. We we driving back and forth to the tribes if they need stuff to get. You know money for a driver's license or anything like that. We can even help with that. Also nope we are talking about prisoner reintegration today. If you want to join our conversation give us a call. The number is one eight hundred red nine six two eight four eight David. Little Son is with us. He's the director of the American Indian Criminal Justice Navigation Council and David David you ever hear you know we live in a very punitive society where The the idea is punishment. Punishment management punishment. Do you ever hear from folks who say. Why are you helping these people? They they committed the crime. Well Yeah I feel that all the time it is. That's the people the people like that or the ones that haven't been affected by but once your family is affected by it then your whole mindset nfip changes and I can understand people that you know looking from the outside and they're like well. They created that competent not always committed that time by the time. It's just the lack of a council that can get you in a position as was myself. You know I was sitting ever been in there but I went in because you. I didn't have the money to find big VOYEUR. And get me out of this I. I had no money so I had to do. I fought it what I got so but one once. You're 'cause I know a lot of people that you know starting to get these churches that starting to get in now all these people people before and I go to talk to them all the time talking about. Hey what what's going on with. You know people going in and people that you know. Think it's it's it's tough on crime. It's not about being tough on crime. It's about being smart on crime and anybody can be tough on time and that's not going to get nothing done we have to to go. We have to be able to help these people as much as we can. But like I say if your family hasn't been affected by it it don't make it. Don't make no difference. You WanNa be hard on okay but once your family gets affected by or somebody that you know it's a whole mindset your whole life just changes when when you know when and you have to help somebody While we are talking about prisoner re entry today and Reforming the criminal justice system if you just joined us In Oklahoma almost five hundred prisoners were released earlier this this month. as part of efforts to reduce overpopulation in prisons In Oklahoma in state prisons. What do you think about out that? What do you think about reducing the amount of Nonviolent offenders in prisons letting them out and then What about programs available to them to be able to reintegrate into society to be able to build their lives again to get jobs to be able to And maybe he'll from some of the experiences that they had while they were in prison all opinions are welcome. Give us a call. One eight hundred nine nine six two eight four four eight us a one eight hundred nine nine native. Does your community. Does your tribe have A program to help prisoners. Who are returning back home? Call US and tell us about it. We're going to hear about one program in the Muskogee Creek Nation After the break we'll be right back What does it take to carry indigenous cultural values into leadership positions and government affairs? A group of powdery students students from New Zealand and ambassadors are touring native America. To help answer that question. We'll speak with some of them about what they're learning and what native people might learn from nap. Yep that's on. The next native. America calling support support by the Intertribal Agriculture Council annual conference agriculture investing in sovereignty currently accepting speaker proposals for the country's largest gathering of American doc in Indian agriculture producers tribal natural resource professionals and USDA service providers focusing on native agricultural production sustainability and conservation vacation. This year's conference takes place at the Las Vegas Hard Rock Hotel December ninth through the Twelfth Info and early bird registration at Indian egg dot org young. Hey Hey Nah Nah not not a not a Naomi. Oh Gosh it on unequally shit on. That's on the unequally. Janet Nikolay Kids now. She needs Gabriel stunningly. Hey Uh hey hey not. Hey on. Hey Hey hey. You're listening to native America Calling Monica Brain sitting in four Tara Gateway Today we're focusing on reentering society after prison. Is this something that you've dealt with personally or in your own family. What does it take to reenter society? Effectively what do released native individuals need need to succeed and become self self sufficient. Give us a call. Join our conversation by calling one eight hundred nine six two eight four eight. That's also one eight eight hundred nine nine native David. Little Son is with us. He is the director of the American Indian criminal. Justice Navigation Council he's also citizen of the Ponti Nation and Let's go to. Let's take some calls before introducing additional guests we've got melvyn in santee Nebraska in Alvin morning. you know Reentering usually those guys are people people getting out end up back in the same place where the problem was. And there's our tribe doesn't have anything the prisoners or Re entry programs for People coming out but you know years ago back in the sixties I remember. We're honored fine. They would call. It would take people that just getting out of prison Or got settings and they would have to go out to the honor farm and the honor farm cut would Garden Agenda Summer helped community and that was good for re entry. And that's a big problem with prisoners. Get but now because of the overcrowding you know at home they're coming back and just adds to the problem of overcrowding and there's kind of actor the same situation that he left usually Melvin we recommend I mean you know when people are the only place they have to go is back to their reservation even though it the good and the bad. That's going on there Are you suggesting that they choose a different place to go and live. Well you need to look at what used to be fixed and care you know. All we have is our present some of the reservations. There's not much money for projects we're going to have to start fixing oursel- L. carrying maybe some of the guys getting out can bring some skills you know help with community the problems that usually. There's no room for them. I learned that from the boarding schools when they get out the summer. Back Komo beyond all these kids come back from school when overcrowding. I can't well Oklahoma just had five. I wonder prisoners released. There must be kind of overcrowding going on at home to Melvin. Thanks for giving US call. It's always great to hear from you. Let's take one more call. We've got Rebecca in Washington state. Hey there rebecca. Thanks for giving US call today. Yeah thank you and what do you want to share Well my son. He had gotten out of prison five. have going on six years now and the he sure had a hard time with reentry back into the he had to come home to our reservation. He's under federal probation and Six offender keep move because he was convicted of a sex crime in. He's he's really had a hard time with it but he's been clean and sober all the time now and he's got a full time job and What I wanted to share his though there is a the murder missing shing indigenous women and All that started coming out and then pretty soon is. He's a soon to be ex in-laws laws decided they were gonNA put a flight say their house tribal council and the courts need to keep children away from six opinion and then he's he's got three kids that twitter that's where it all stems from so that was plastered. All over the Indian help the agency and wherever else he can put him so he's having to deal with that now and it's your heart to watch him both through that Rebecca. Thank you for sharing that and David you know this is Rebecca shares An experience I'm sure that a lot of sex offenders returning home experience which is that community see that's not welcoming to them What what do you recommend? How do they navigate through a system like that and these these kinds of things that that families are doing to You know to putting signs up and things like that. Yeah that's that's a very touchy subject. Because there's a lot of them that will not. Well welcome back. I mean there's some around here that we tried to help and they just don't want him anywhere near him so it's but there's some good stuff out of this also too because there's a lot of the things that you know 'cause sex falls it don't matter what you did. It's all under the same umbrella no matter if you're stepping using the bathroom is considered a sex crime and they'll get you for that or it could be the big big one but a lot of these are like the Muskogee Creek. She no because there's a lot of times you can't you can't be Costa schools or anything like that but I believe the Muskogee creeks have to where or if you've got land and you know they they'll bring a trailer on that land for you to be somewhere where you ain't so close you know so they. They did some the things with that because they can't find housing for him or anything like that. But if they if they if make a land acre or something the Muskoka creeks up believe. We'll put a trailer on their land until they can get permanent housing which is the greatest thing in the world We are talking about prisoner reintegration today. If you WANNA give us the call and share your experience the number is one eight hundred nine nine six two eight four eight at. That's more voices to the conversation joining us from Henrietta. Oklahoma is Keith Green. He's he's the operations coordinator for the Muskogee Creek Nation Reintegration program and he is Muskogee Creek. Welcome to native America Calling Keith. Thank good afternoon. Tell us about your program. Our program was founded sixteen years ago. as Mister Livingstone has stated a lot of times what we do not popular to buy demand was not popular. VR tribe You know sixteen years ago Fortunately what we've done is has gone on an in game successful clients Been Successful for the last sixteen years through doing what we do and a a lot of. It is based off the clientele that we deal with is not court ordered for our class to come to our program. It's not mandatory for them to our program. We're helping indies class. That want a a hand up not a handout to move forward and Better themselves and So I'm imagining imaginings that there's been a bit of an education process within the tribe You know I talked to David earlier about that. That attitude of like these people committed a crime. Why should we help them Tell us about you know the process of changing that perspective. You're exactly right. I mean a lot of times we do go out and break down the paradigm of of what we're doing with You know a lot of people are intrigued by incarceration but nobody wants to experience that and you know right here in the state of Oklahoma what we were the number one. St of incarceration for men and women. I we've been incarcerated more females in the last seventeen years than any other any other state in the country and we've recently unfortunately within the number one st of incarceration for males so breaking down those paradigms and letting everybody you know know that that even myself have gotten lucky didn't get caught You know throughout in my lifetime and and understanding that these guys and Gals just need assistance. They need help To better themselves because like the stated earlier if these guys and gals are not given a chance or an opportunity they're going to go back And if they don't go back go back and do the what they were doing. A lot of these clients so that we deal with You know unfortunately don't have anybody to turn to Via whether they've messed up Their relationships with everybody along the away or are they just don't have anybody in their lives. And you know being here in this program really helps us to to be able to give back and and you know dealing with action in committees are getting on social media or getting on the radio or or whatever like we're doing today allows us to put ourselves out there and it'll to let everybody know that these guys and guys made a mistake and you know once that mistake is made it's so hard to recover from being a convicted felon but if we can help them. That's what we're here to do. Yeah I'm curious to talk a little bit more about it. What set up within the criminal justice system to help prisoners or to continue their sentences? I know that you know if you if you're out and you still have probation or parole The chances of re offending and getting put back in our are pretty great because of the restrictions and things like that David David you do you work much with with that situation with you. Know folks who maybe have to go to halfway houses or check in with parole officers things like that. Ah Yes we have a lot of that long. You know. 'cause you're you're trying to do what you gotta get your license. You GotTa get a job you gotta you gotTa pay for your probation so you got to report all the time and a lot of times. Is You know like saying when their family. Hopefully 'cause they did you know lot of went back and forth inside prison so one of them their family have gone because they burn so many bridges and everybody thinks you know once they come out they should just be family. Should just you know come right back to them. Well that should be. But that's not how it is because they have to prove themselves to family again for in order for their family to start helping them again. Because if you've been burnt and Burton over and over again I'm GonNa do this. I'm going to do that and I'm GonNa go back in and you keep going back in. The trust is gone with your family so nobody wants to help. So and then the main thing is you know these probation officers. That's what we need to do a lot of them they they. Don't they see what they see. What's their jobs doing a lot of times it it? It's not you you know it's not about the people it's about their job so you know there's times where you know. Some can't find a way to the police officer or their ten minutes late or something like that and they'll buy them for that you know. They're trying everything they can to get there but to me. It's the they need to be a little bit more trained on you know. Be a a little bit more and I know it's hard and people say well. No you just need to be hard on him no you don't it's about being human and it's about you know they're still struggling. You'RE WE'RE GONNA struggle every day until you get back on your feet. That's what I did. I had to struggle not get a lot of stuff but I was determined to do what I needed to do to get out. I stay out and I'm doing what I'm doing and helping people helping me because that's what I need to do to help myself. Also we are talking about Reentry after prison. If you WANNA get in on our conversation the number is one eight hundred nine nine six two eight four great. Let's go to Susan in Bethel Alaska Tunde Than Kyi UK. Hey there Susan. Good Morning I worked for years as an Education Coordinator Nater in a correctional facility and I learned just as much as I had to offer for them to learn for me and one of the things I once in a while would ask a group of inmates is what was the experience the very very very first time you got into legal trouble the very first time and it got me thinking we got a revolving door system here people in and out of jail. So I'd ask what's what happens our very first time you get in jail well. Well here's the thing. We have fifty seven villages so the basic story is a state trooper. Picks them up flies into state jail. They go to State Court. They have a state attorney already. They look at a document that says the state of Alaska versus you and and and then the lawyer the lawyer will say well. Let's just plea bargain. They don't address. Whatever the issues are that? Just say let's just plea bargain and lower the case and get you out and put you on probation and the probation mindset. It is from the inmate. Point of view is trailer male in jail and then they're back to square one is violate the conditions and the one day. I see that are successful. That don't come back. Don't look at it as US against them. They do look at the people places and friends in their life and they probably set standards for themselves stricter than any probation officer can throw at them and then they're successful. They get a job. Raise a family live in the world that that they're meant to be And I'm just thinking I'm all for dealing with somebody the very first time they come in to very much take it seriously. I'm very supportive of tribal courts where people just face their peers and see what they're doing and get reconnected. And then they'll make better choices I'm all for halfway houses. We have a halfway house to and the people can go fishing for the catch fish for the women's shelter and therapeutic activities like that so that's just my input I'll go ahead and listen but If he has anything about tribal courts. I'm really interested in that. Thank you thanks Susan we appreciate. It's always nice to hear here from our listeners. In Alaska Susan and Bethel tuned in on Koa UK. Want to add one more voice to the conversation joining us. Now from the Malek's band of ojibwa reservation reservation in Minnesota is Bradley. Harrington is the Commissioner of National Natural Resources for the Malacca Band of which he is also a cultural and language revitalization titles Asian advocate and chemical dependency advocate for the tribe. And he's a member of the Malek's band of Ojibway. Welcome to native MIRKA calling Bradley. I mean for having me on. Yeah so What kind of advocacy work do you do in your native community well I started out in in a You know re entry advocacy I was I've been in prison twice And then my most recent release was in August of two thousand twelve. And during my incarceration I had a little change in In mindset you know I had had a little time there were I thought to myself. I'm maybe I'm not living my life right and you know that led to learning more but when I came home I was bound and determined to Succeed in my community but there were unlimited resources for me here so it always go advocate for You know helping guys and people getting out whether it be from prison jail or treatment on a how can we better welcome them home and then set them on the right. Pathway they were where we are supported. Did you have support from your family. I had a you know some support from my family but a lot of them still actively actively used and So I had two semi boundaries and that was that it was the hardest thing if anybody were anybody asked me what was the hardest thing about recovering and the living a better life it was certainly his boundaries with friends and family and people that I grew up with. Yeah I know that's something that I hear a lot about particularly from folks in recovery but in particular with with prisoners and reentry is setting those boundaries. When you come back so that you're you're not going back into the same environment in the same Making the same choices that you were making before you you went to prison and That's our conversation nation today. There's still time one eight hundred nine nine six two eight four eight. WE'RE GONNA go to short break. We'll be right back. Support by Freedom Lodge providing healing for seven generations offering a one of a kind two hundred our historical trauma masterclass beginning in May twenty twenty on the oneida nation in in Wisconsin for professional counselors therapists social workers and educators. There's no charge for tribal members. Now you can imagine an end to generations Suffering and the future of native wellness registration deadline is March. Second Information and registration at freedom. Lodge Dot Org UH You're listening to native America calling. I'm Monica Brain today. We're talking about what it means to reenter society after prison. Were also discussing prison reform. mm-hmm what do you think could be helpful to keep native people from getting caught up in the prison system gives us call one eight hundred nine nine six the two eight four eight. That's one eight hundred nine. Nine native Bradley Harrington is with us he is the He's a cultural in language. Revitalization Asian advocate and chemical dependency advocate for his tribe. The Malek's band of Bradley. Before the break you were talking about setting boundaries when you get back what other other things did you have to learn to deal with when you got out of prison and we're reintegrating yourself and society. I had to learn how to work with people so I in prison. We've got like a large Indian population in our prison system in Minnesota a soda. I believe it's about twenty five percent of the total population is native American in our prison system. But we're only one percent of the population relation here in Minnesota. So in there you get a large concentration to where you know your your larger group in there and It's one the done more feared groups and then coming out and separating yourself from that to We have to do you worry about somebody Not Having your back I guess is sort of say but also how how to work with people in a healthy way you know. Entrusting people was another tough thing to do and had plenty of leadership programs that help me do it. You know still still to this day. It's tough to you know. Trust one another one of on my My main focus has been getting outdoors. relearning the language and culture 'cause I knew that if I learned that I would increase my chances on surviving out here so with setting the boundaries from people that I knew I had to go out and meet more people which is tough if you You keep people at arm's wing you don't really you know. Express yourself holy but I met some pretty good people and I learned a lot over the last few years and one of them is in her ceremonial ways. And some of the same people have had to set boundaries with at the beginning of my recovery and coming home I've had to bury them recently. helping to funerals where they odid or were died of violence. It's you know it really really part of my recovery is how to deal with the. Yeah you know David One and went to throw that to you Bradley brought up an interesting thing about about having to set boundaries and to meet New People. I mean Meeting you know establishing new friendships. It's it seems it's it's hard hard for adults to do things like that and do you talk much with folks about that social aspect of of Reentry a lot of it is you know 'cause it's hard it's hard for natives to even ask for anything. 'cause natives are very prideful so that's just that's that's one thing but it's ask people for something is is that's why my my organization so so important to me because I'm not I want you to ask that's fine but I know you're coming out and I know that you're going to be doing. I'm going to be doing things with you. I'm GonNa be right beside you We call we. Do I take you places whatever you need. I'm beside you to help you because if you failed because because you've found any because everybody else around 'cause there's this we need the guys coming out they need a little push you have to have a little push. 'cause you know they're so scared and they don't know what's going on you know but once you set that establishment. Now you've got somebody does have your back somebody there to help you. The changes your mindset a little bit. Well you know their their use people out in this world that care about us and there are there's a what all these tribes or doing great things you know. Now we got and that's about my organization is we we are pulling all these tribes in. I'm I'm going out in question. I'm talking to them. What do you got what you need? This guy needs needs this. This girl needs that when you want to help them as much as we can. We want to be the resources when you come out. You WanNa have all the resources you can't and I wouldn't take you in the right person. I mean you call me and say hey this is what I need. I'm calling in trying to find where the best place for them to go to talk to this person. I mean that's why we have our support group is I mean. It's a great support route. We get together and we talk about things that no one else. We'll talk about about the troubles in the things in arguments and the selfish knows all that stuff. That's going to be dealing with when you get out and it opens up a lot. There's a a lot of good things coming out to people when you talk about. Shame shame as things if you talk about shame it goes away. They nothing about when you when you I hope so. That's the main thing is just getting together. Get into people's together and just you know push them towards the waiting to go. I can give him all toll in the world but if they don't do nothing with him tools there's nothing we can do but we will help you and everything we can. Let's take another call. We've got Hendra in Washington state tuned in online. He there Andrea. Thank you for taking my call. My name's Andrea Alexandra. I'm calling from Washington State. I'm a macaw tribal member and I wanted to talk about the root causes of power native people. Get into the criminal justice system system We have a lot of bar border towns in our state in the county jails or people are caught up in the county jails els incarcerated none of a lot of times the family the tribal leaders. Nobody knows where they're at. They don't have contact with their friends or family they. I don't have money once they get in to make a phone call. That's the beginning of the end. And so then they get caught up in the criminal justice system criminal justice. The system has a lot of resources. They have very well funded prosecutors judges. They're all there against you. WHO has no resources like education on the Legal system and the very poor staffed Public defender system. That really. Don't care about you so you're in that system for a long time you're paying a lot of money to probation court cost Impossible situations ginger. If you don't have your license to make your Po. So all those things happen to prevent our people. And I really want I really am calling on a tribal leaders you to stand up and look at having accountability of where individual tribal members are. They do need legal help because most I I notice. Most of the tribal attorneys are working more at the high level policy. But I don't see People legally helping our grassroots people at the local local level and really like to see that change. And I really WanNa thank you so much for doing this important program because a lot of our native women have been trafficked out of the county jail system and lost forever and we really need to link all these different Systems together so thanks again for having this program I appreciate it and I hope I hope we continue this conversation at the state. Ah National Level Andrew. Thanks for giving us a call from Washington Keith. You Know Andrea brings up a a a big part of this conversation. We're talking about reentry entry but You know for the folks in Oklahoma. This is part of a criminal justice reform and it's across the Aisle Republicans and Democrats are in support of this I'm curious your thoughts about reforming the system to make it better and maybe even involving the tribes to to help with that situation Geno. That's that's one thing that our travel leaders have have done. I know Mr Little Son could probably test this. We get together You know at a travel level of state government level Meet I know our tribes here in Oklahoma expect five so last rabs are huge into giving back into two reentry You know this this is the ongoing problem. That's it's never gonNA end. Unfortunately a lot of it is like everybody has stated even the colleges stated most of this is product of your environment. is what you we deal with. And then poverty levels probably counties not just in Oklahoma but across the country. You you run into a lot of these problems and you know what we're trying to do here at our reintegration program is just trying to better our citizens give them something that they haven't gotten You know we have an onsite attorney here. They can go out and help them. We have on-site counselor here that can help them with the mental aspects of you know we driver's license reinstatements. So you know. Our the biggest thing is is our tribe is a big support of our program now and and they allow us to go out and promote our program which allows us to go out and and maybe help other tribes or help other communities do we can-do Bradley. What do you think about criminal? Justice reform particularly these efforts to maybe not lock nonviolent offenders up for long periods of time or the maximum you know sentencing sentencing guidelines things like that. I I really think it's a needed and tribes need to be at the Table One. These are being discussed last weekend Of course leave it up to the states to try to advocate for us. You know as it is part of our historical trauma it's part of these environments inside. We're living on reservations and organizations like the office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Travel Youth Program Program Dot Org is looking into this a lot on the youth level and another organization out of Washington State Native America Re Entry Services. Is there helping to change the dialogue when it comes to State Department of corrections here in Minnesota Learning from from the NATIVE AMERICA RE entry services from Washington is to change. How services are delivered to our people well in curse serrated when I was in prison there is limited to no resources are volunteers or low? Those tough for them to get in re Limited books the library Relevant to are region specific tribes. And then even The other stuff like a spiritual I Hand Out Where we're low I think I think there's only one and it was just like from the Great Lakes Indian fish and Wildlife Commission Those central but when the big things is Here in Minnesota sort of any incoming volunteer has to go through a religious or or the chaplain of the prison which then gets filtered through the Christian Lens right so we gotta ask not just for native Americans but for the other a religious dominations There they gotta get vetted through a Christian process over trying to make the push gear Minnesota to instead of having a chaplain oversee Cultural activity that we actually have a cultural resource coordinator for native Americans and I and the different people in prison to get Reliable and relevant resources to them to really connect reconnect a identifies. Which is I've seen my greatest improvement when Alex seeking out who I am as a no way man who I am as an O.? J. Partner audibly father or Joyce son what role. What's drinks I get culturally from my clan? what energy supports me from my name. Once I started realizing this my my life has been getting better and I really believe reconnecting to our identities as one of the foundational keystones in not just recovering from chemical addiction but from recovering from genocidal oppression. Aw Historical Trauma and everything that came with That the building of this nation. What about folks who really didn't grow up traditionally or grew up with any you know that didn't really connect with that to begin with? Do you still think that that's a key for them. I'm to be successful with reintegration. Oh yeah definitely Even if people did not get get in trouble we have tribal members. Are you know living the American Dream Leaf right got a job. GotTa host kids Maybe a white picket fence. Who knows right but at the same time There's was I would assume that there's a deeper yearning to learn who they are. As a indigenous person as a tribal a person is ojibway or wherever they're they're spiritual energies comes from the We're just right at the end of the hour. What advice do you have for someone who's out from prison on day one FICO ZICO people. That are doing what you WANNA do. here in lacks we got a group called sober squad. They've been helping out people Left and right and it's spreading out and they actually make a forum for recovery. So if there's something you want to be a away you want to go. Oh sign those people there you know. I want to speak the language. I wanted to know the ceremonies. So I put myself in those situations and it's scary but yet frank it'll for you so we're squad. I love that that that sounds like a great group. Well Thank you everyone who's joined the show today David Little Son. He's the director of the American Indian criminal. Justice Navigation Council will have a link to his website on our website. Native America. CALLING DOT com. Also Bradley Harrington From the Malacca Band of Ojibway he's a Cultural and language. Revitalization advocate chemical dependency advocate for the tribe and Keith Green. He's the operations coordinator for the Muskogee Creek Nation. Reintegration program will also have a link to his program on on our website native America calling dot com. Join US tomorrow. Is We talk with modern visitors from the University of Canterbury School of Maui and indigenous studies. I'm senior producer Monica Brain. We'll see you tomorrow the IT Support by the National American Indian Housing Counselors 2019 legal symposium the I H C focused solely on improving housing and tribal communities across the country. Tree will present the latest trends in Indian Housing and up-to-date legal and regulatory issues and lawyers can earn continuing legal education credits. At Bali's Ollie's resort in Las Vegas December ninth and Tenth Information and registration at an eight. I H C dot net slash legal. 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"Previously on the tony kornheiser show using unscarred wool that retained its natural oils which made the garments water resistant and meant. They remained a wearable even when wet. So when you're at the bow just trying to fight back those weights. Yeah you can still make forward progress. Yeah try to not fight back. the way bringing unleash. The cracking and mccracken is trying to eat stuff that you've got so this is so. I bought this island ceaselessly to the bought this. I think i bought it in ireland. I think i'm not even sure. I don't really remember. It's been such a long time or heck's but i could have tony kornheiser show is on now already. We are loaded today. We have the two games and you can talk endlessly about two games and we have since the last time we met the passing away of two people who are enormous in the culture henry. Aaron who is as far as i'm concerned the home run king with seven fifty. Five and larry king who's interview show on. Cnn was the greatest interview. Show ever really. Was this every night. It was great. I mean if you look at the history of cable television cable. Television is a fairly recent phenomenon in the last thirty five forty years. I work on cable television. It's not regular television cable television and the biggest people in the history of cable television i would say or larry king and bill o'riley i would say they're one and two in whatever order you want. Larry king has one so we can talk about that. But let's get to the games. I if we could the kansas city game the late game. Kansas city buffalo. That went pretty much. According to talent. I think kansas city is the best team in football. They were last year. They are this year. they're the best team. Buffalo got off to a nine nothing lead. Buffalo got a field goal on its first opportunity and then punted when it was stopped a muffed punt inside the five think and buffalo put it in missed the point nine nothing. It's nine nothing buffalo said he. Whoa maybe this is a game aggressive playcalling really going for because you knew you had to put up points early. Yeah because buffalo doesn't really have a whole lot of offense. They don't well. Kansas city scored thirty eight of the next forty. Four point one spot you that ten. Oh he'll take nine. Okay spotting them nine and then it's then it's thirty eight fifteen. It's there's no game. There's no game there. Because kansas city is that much better. I tried to say this. The other week about the comparison between kansas city in buffalo buffalo has to digs. He's a great receiver. Kansas city has two great receivers. They have travis kelsey and they've got the kid out of the backfield tyreek hill. They were too great receivers. Their quarterback is better jerry out josh allens very good. He's very good mahomes a wizard. He's the best player in the world. It's like aaron rodgers was the mvp this year. There's no question about that but mahomes is the best player in the world. You have these. Mvp's in basketball you have onto to compo- and you have. Who's the guy from the clippers kawhi leonard. They're not the best players in the world. The bron james is the best player in the world. Everybody understands the bron. James is the best player in the world. If you don't think that you're not really paying attention. So patrick mahomes the best player in the world. So he goes to the super bowl for the second straight time. That's a lot. He's got a chance to repeat as bowl champion for the first time since two thousand four. That's seventeen years ago. You know repeated in two thousand four the other guy super bowl. Tom brady that guy. Tom brady is going to his tenth super bowl. Let me try to put this in perspective. If i can. Michael wilpon is going to be on the show later. He hates tom brady personally. And he'll claim he doesn't put does i know he does. He does well. Takes tom brady. He's always felt that the best quarterback he ever saw the best quarterback therefore of all time because he saw him. Was john elway. John elway's been five super bowls. I believe that's the most of any quarterback. I don't think any quarterbacks the five i think they've been a four bradshaw went to four. Kelly went to four montana. Went to four and one the mall by. I don't think anybody's been to five except elway. Who lost the first three and one. The next to this guy is in his tenth in his tenth. So you need for a comparison as to how how incredible that is go to golf. Jack nicklaus one eighteen majors until tiger woods came along and i believe in most people would agree with this. Tiger woods for ten years was the greatest golfer of all time even better than nicholas for ten years but before tiger woods came along. Nobody else had one nine eight eight and nikola slap the nicholas doubled it. this guy brady has doubled. It brady is in his tenth super bowl. A dog is barking as a dog across the street and the dog is going to barlinnie six to extend that comparison. Don't even know if you're looking at say brady's eighty-six astor's because you actually saw this coming with the decision with the receivers that he finally had after. Not having that firepower laughed at me. He laughed at me when i said when he got when they signed. Gronkowski said they're going to super bowl laughed laughing on. Tv laughed at me. Said i was a fool but like they're in a super gusta it's like. He's playing at home course because they are playing in his state. That's right except without a lot of fans and he's not had the experience of many fans and when you say it's his home track it is technically but you know we all think of him as the new england patriots. But it's it's remarkable. Did he have a great game. No he threw three picks one was a deflection but to them the first two were terrible. They were terrible picks but he also went deep more than you ever thought. A forty three zero could go deep ben. Rothlisberger can't go deep anymore. To brees can't go deep anymore. Philip rivers can't go deep anymore. Tom brady at forty three still can and the play of the game. It's unbelievable lapse on the part of the packers. It's so terrible at the end of the first half. it's so terrible. It's a hail mary. it's the last play. What do you do in singled up. What are you nuts. It's terrible terrible play. And that's that's in effect the winning points and that's not even the story of the game. The story of the game is the third down on the fourth down with the packers on the third down when aaron rodgers seems to have the whole right side of the field available to him so he can get inside the five on third down at least he could slide the five or something like that giving him a fourth down play. That's more manageable. So he throws it instead. I would say that he made the wrong decision. And then matt leflore decides. We'll kick a field goal. We'll kick a field goal. We'll get the ball back because we've got four timeouts. We got three timeouts and the two minute warning. They never got the ball back. Roger said after the game. I thought i'd get a chance on fourth down. Rodgers will not be the quarterback green bay. That's it you saw his last game and by the way. He's one in four now in championship games. Which is donovan mcnabb land. It's not good. And he's great quarterback. He's a hall of fame quarterback and he's the mvp. That's a good record and brady slides in the tenth one. It doesn't matter if he wins. He's thirty one six. What did you think it's the path to get here when you're thinking about the decision last spring as to where to go to do it so intentionally to get the to get the weapons that he needed then enough time to the first half of the season where they are it basically ends with that second loss to new orleans where he say experiment over. This was a failure can't with the coach. That's where i see going going to retire. Then you get this and that was actually his spring training and you look at them. Going through the going through. Drew brees going through aaron rodgers on the road. Yeah and now. He's got a chance to go through. Patrick mahomes if you go through breeze rogers mahomes and you win this. You know what we're gonna was. Your sound repetitive. Brady's great we know brady's great but who goes through that if that's popular do i think they're going to win. No kansas as the best so many small things that you should have his general awareness of the clock. And what's going on the field. There's one second down where it looked like. He was getting a lot of pressure he might go down and take the sack and he targets and find gronkowski who had not doing anything but blocking for the last three weeks. He didn't even think he was going to play. At the end of the first twenty five yard he put on his his put on his parker and then he went back out. There made a small pass and then they call time and then they throw that one. Then you've never seen aaron rodgers be under that much pressure you saw the early sacks and you just wonder did that start to influence the decisions that you saw on that third data. Maybe even the fourth the tampa. Bay's defense is good. That's good defense. I think they've won seven or eight in a row at this point and and they've made fools out of everyone fools. I didn't. I didn't see that i thought rogers would win the game i did. I thought mahomes would win. But i thought rodgers will win. Let me get to henry. Aaron however briefly. He's just an american hero. Babe ruth endured all sorts of horrible threats of violence to himself and his family went out there and hit it and kept going got to seven fifty five and didn't take any steroids. You can tell me that seven sixty. Two's the record is that what bonds seven sixty two and henry. Aaron even said i yield to barry bonds because he knew his daddy knew bobby bonds and all that and he's never said a bad word publicly about barry bonds but most people follow baseball. Thinking reaction is the home. Run king most people. You know i mean. I don't even think that people think that when mcgwire hit seventy. I don't think they thought he was home. Run king and when bonds hit seventy three. I don't think they thought that. I think they thought these were steroid. Adult people in that they were cheating and so it didn't really matter to us. It's wonderful on. These bonds is one of the greatest hitters of all time. But i think of henry arunas the homerun king and henry. Aaron live the good in full life and was not controversial but work behind the scenes and in front of the scenes for the equality of all people and did a great job and was the right man at the right time. In the way the jackie robinson was the right man at the right time and of larry king and we will have leon harrison. Who worked with leon. Leon's on page one of the post yesterday. Interviewing larry king. It's a picture of leon's back. It's leon and he's on a that's pretty good. I haven't been on a one good for him. I worked there. I went on one so good for him and he can he worked with larry king he can talk about that and you can. Also he lived in atlanta. Not one not win working for cnn. Not win Aaron was playing but has probably a sense of how errands viewed in atlanta and. We'll donald beyond. We'll talk about larry. King larry king was dear. Dear friend to the pti show. He was quoted a number of times. You know countless times really of saying the pti shows the show on television. He loved us. He loved the show he came to the show a couple of times he was a dear friend We liked him so much that over the last x. amount of years at the opening of the show. Half the time. It's it's about. Somebody old knows it's larry king. It's like the dinosaurs were. There's larry king you know there. They discovered a prehistoric. Ed gets who went to school with them. Larry king. We can't do that anymore. it's over we can't. We can't do that. But larry loved it. Larry loved that every time. I was in los angeles. I would have breakfast with larry at Nate now's and then larry jumped in and owned his own bagel. Join the brooklyn water. Bagel place coupla from nate. Now so i mean larry was was a -joy to know He is he created the character of larry. King it's not his name it's not who he is. He created the suspenders. He created the style he created all of that he was a the read. The obits he was a bust out deadbeat gambler in miami for a long period of time. He was sued by a million people. He went bankrupt countless times. And then he became. Larry king and larry king ruled the world. We will take a break when we come back. Michael wilbon will join us with talk. We'll talk about the game. Woman was also at three. Tv's on news watching both men's and the women's golf. Yesterday i was talking about nelly korda to me. I said i'm just watching this game. He said you need more. Tv's wilpon will join us when we return. I am telling me kornheiser. You're listening to the tony kornheiser. Show watch the most anticipated movie. Premieres of the year like never before beginning january. Twenty ninth watch academy award winners denzel washington rami. Malek and jared leo or as leto. I think it's lead open. I'm not sure in a psychological thriller the little things in theaters on. Hbo max on the exact same day available to stream at no extra cost to hbo max. 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Says you have my permission to play these seventeen years old. Now listen to these in full. I have the instrumental but the very lovely very long well. That's good michael wilbon just now. Do you know where oakland illinois is. Do you know where that is. I don't know tony. I was thinking as i heard it i. I don't know that i'd do it. Maybe there's one hint that could set it off for me. Oh yeah. I know where that is but i taught my head. I don't guess it's in southern illinois and not near chicago right. You're gonna guess guesses south of well. You gotta be south of the city. Yeah southbound i was gonna say yeah you know our south. I don't think it's like illinois carbondale or anything but i could be wrong okay central illinois yet south of university of illinois champaign. Okay all right. I let us get to the games. Let us get to the games. And let's start with the better of the two games. The green bay tampa bay game and and there's a million things to talk about you know. Aaron rodgers was in the red zone. A couple of times and couldn't get him in. Tom brady makes throw at the end of the first half. That's a disgrace for the packers. And you just cannot let that happen. But but the play the gave hinges ultimately onto place on a third-down play where raja's doesn't run and it seemed to me mike that he had get to at least to the five on the right hand side of that series. I thought he could have run a couple. And then the floor taking the ball out of his hands on fourth down. And i tell you this. He's played his last game for the packers. He's not coming back to the packers. That's it but what did you think. What did you think of that sequence. I just thought the packers played stupid. Football largely thought they were a couple of things. Got from me the packers that was i didn't like the plays And i just thought the referees were horrid. I mean once you establish you're gonna let people each other didn't let him play doh. Don't make that stupid call down. The stretch could have survived it anyway. But but don't you don't do that. They they they let tampa get away with all kinds of holding penalty. They called nothing and they call the. Yeah okay he held but so the soda tampa the whole game. The defensive backs did that. So that i was annoyed at that But there were times. I understand what they do what they were doing. The packers doing offensively what they were calling and they got they got some pass happy sequences where run the ball. Keep that defense honest and they didn't do it and so whoever's calling the place i guess it's the floor with with with. Obviously it's a package of place. Come in and aaron can select so of his own. Just didn't like it. They didn't play well and the earn. Aaron didn't play. well either. I mean not not eating and he didn't. I have mvp players game. He didn't have that and they needed him. That they didn't even have be game. He had to have a a seven and a half to eight performance and he had like a six and that that surprised me he had the whole right side of the field open on that third down and and then and then what you have on fourth down four down your score told you get close enough. Sounds more manageable. Yes and he didn't take like i was very surprised that that let's let's go to the field goal. You say to yourself what. what are you doing feel. i didn't time. Maybe he didn't have any faith because they had moved the ball. You know three interceptions produced. What three points. The brady brady picked by the way. Two of them were terrible. One was deflection. Yeah well with the flexibility to also didn't you think and these are two very good offensive teams. Didn't you think there were a lot of drop passes. Seemed to be a lot here but you have. They have drops. I mean the tampa bay is for as good as they are they they they have drops. Yeah a and and brady's had to live with. They've had drops in during the regular season. I watched i leave all watched tampa a lot. This year. i know the the packers had the two point. Conversion was huge. 'cause it it affects the way you play the rest of the way if the game a three point game instead of a five point game and that two point conversion was slightly tipped by dhamma can sue. I don't care hands stance spiral. It wasn't a war sucker. Anything you know. Look you know the number of times. I've thought about this last night. The number of times. I've had anxiety over the packers. Losing a game in my life just could be the first one so the hell with them. So let me get to this. And i said this at the top of the show when you didn't hear it of course so i'll say it again. You have always thought that. John elway the greatest quarterback you ever saw john. John elway is certainly. Yeah john elway is certainly in that conversation. No question about that. He got the five super bowls. I don't think any other quarterback has gotten a five. I don't i think he's for five for five. This guy's in ten in ten. It's what do you may. It's unbelievable i. I know you laughed at me. When i said they'd make super bowl months ago. But but he actually made when it the other way but it's not laughable. 'cause it's him is that you know ten. He's goat is when you when people aren't in nine attempts when you look at pat. Yeah and two of those. He should've lost but to that he lost. He should have won. So it sort of works out when you look at patrick mahomes. Who's a wizard. He's in his second. That's great he's not getting a ten right well. I don't i don't think so ten 'cause he first of all here andy. Reid are going to be together long enough. Like brady. And belichick were sixty eighty. Is you know it's a couple years older than me. I i don't see it but Because you have so many things that can derail you like a toe injury. I mean i you know. I mean you can see. Mahomes was not moving with his same gate. Yesterday he was right worked because man they got his thing. No but you know when you look at tyreek hill. Move around a football field. He is so disruptive it just shows you what you have when you have speed. I remember the ones who have all the bears obeyed him in the last thirty years when they had devin hester. You when you guys have to be involved in every play that kind of speed know the old thing speed kills and it was really about baseball often. Like you know. Maury wills and ricky henderson guys like that when you have when you have a guy like that tony and then you know how to deploy him quarterback who's just laughing at the ability to use him or the the the coach's ability in the case of devin hester who i mentioned it was. It was a special teams coach to use it. Just it it demoralized. The other ten other team is just off balance all the time looking for this guy over their shoulders like he is some character in a horror. Movie wow tyreek hill my god. Kansas city's weapons are just unbelievable and the number one weapon the quarterback. He's unbelievable too. So maybe they will. Maybe more than i thought. Maybe i thought you win. You win to considering all the people never wanted to air rodgers didn't win to. I don't now i don't think he will read five. Didn't win to a whole lot of people in the whole grease degrees in winter. Two away one to win one. Yeah no you're right. He'll he'll string together. But you gotta you gotta you gotta be healthy. What you don't know if you're gonna be so much a play but to watch them. I mean buffalo's really really really good. Now let me bring something up to you over the last month or six weeks. Four to six weeks you have been. You've had reservations about kansas city. You've said publicly. they can be beaten. This team can beat them. That team can beat him. The other team can beat them. Total three i you know. Look you're still just you know this guy can beat him 'cause he can beat anybody that's right. He can't be beaten up insane. I you know you have to look at this with kansas city. being favorite. you have to look at it that way. I you know that defense is kinda flexed. Its muscle for two weeks in a row. They didn't flex their muscle really against the washington football team but they have for two weeks in a row and they've won about six or seven straightened. I you know i. They're not they don't yes. They looked unbeatable. Actually even ten nothing. You're thinking this is nothing. I've seen this But i'm not gonna say that unbeatable. You can't say anyone is unbeatable. When tom brady's on the other side what would you say to this. If tom brady were to win the super bowl that means successive weeks. He would have gone through breeze. Rogers and mahomes. That's amazing isn't it. it's just i mean. Who would have ever have a run like that. That's that's the one that had that somebody went through you know joe montana. The giants had a run where they went through. They did like blank. Joe gibbs and they beat montana and beat the washington football team seventeen nothing with jay schroeder. Place wasn't quite the same schrader. And that was phil samson taylor giants but i i'm hesitant because what kind of defenses are you going through. I'm not worried about going to the quarterback that doesn't jasmine tampa bay has a really good defense defense. They're not but so so. I care more about the defense as you go through. And they're good. I mean they're good. They went they. They went through the packers and lambeau. That's one president being beaten aaron rodgers because we just said air raja's one one so somebody beats aaron rodgers every year. Except why do that's right. He's one in four and championship games. I love my different. Mcnabb was one in four and a one in five in ten championship game. Yeah i talk about. Larry king talk about our friends. I've certainly had tired of think about it. I i was was five o'clock in the morning. I was in a car in arizona. Going to the airport to come back here to dc. And i was and my friend. Tom burke told me You start to all kinds of stuff you know i mean i was a kid larry's show i was a kid i was. I don't know early around twenty ish. When larry started his show on cnn. And and of course here in washington because people don't necessarily realize we're folks up their camps. Larry lived in washington and los angeles and You know and then as we got to be older. I'm sure you might run across. Larry much earlier than i did but i would socially here in you know he read the washington post knew who i was and that was like a huge deal but as a grown man and a fairly old man i i was forty. Nine years old when it happens was thirteen years ago. Thirteen years ago this week. Actually the twenty eighth of january. The anniversary of this thing about the mentioned and i've you know suffered a heart Episode they call it now right heart attack and i want to go back to work. It was super bowl week. It was sunday of super bowl of the beginning of super bowl week. And i want to go back to work on thursday in you. Of course others said are you. Are you on drugs you. You can't do this. I said yeah. I'm coming back and one of the things i said was well king worked. After he had heart attack he went back to work. He said this is stupid. You somebody's gotta talk you out of this. So i wasn't hearing it and the phone rang when i got home after two days. Three days in hospital phone rang. And shirl hansi the phone. And she says is larry king. Thank god what is a junior acting. Like larry king. It's not sell their king. So yeah yeah it is. It's like they take the phone. So i did. And larry says hey. Listen i got wind. You try to come back to work this week. You're not going back to work. You're not going to work. That's hilarious so nice. You call said yeah. You're not going back to work. I talked to cornheiser already. And he's told me and you're not doing it. I know people that. Abc haven't keep you out of there and he says tells me what i gotta do. He tells me how he had heart attack. Twenty years earlier it was. It was twenty or twenty one years earlier if it was eighty seven. It was twenty one years earlier and he talked about how i had to drink grape juice. And they had to do this. And how has it changed my life. And so on the phone. Listening to larry king for like a half an hour. Anything you gotta. You gotta get more exercise. You need to get a train today and talked about what happened and you know it. Just it it to me now. Now you know it's real. And of course larry helped us gave us. He was generous with his advice and fuses advice for us doing. Pti of the studio as you know. And i you know. We had larry and i share the same birthday Nineteen and so there were a few times where are different linda. Roth who you know. Close larry forever had helped arrange birthday lunch with birth birthday lunch birthdays with larry king. It's this is insane. And i was like terrified the first time. 'cause was larry king. But you know you get to be around somebody. Even if the most famous people in the world and larry was certainly one of those and it was cool. It was just great it. Is you know. I spent so much time in southern california. Larry would have breakfast on his at this particular spot. That's right i would go there occasionally And i'd sit there and have pancakes in the morning. With larry king and then i would start going across the street to a place called the farm which larry was right directly across the street. And there was you know maybe a time to so these times didn't amount to all that many but there were you know a few interactions like this and it's just he was just wasn't who's better to talk to to tell people think they're great storytellers. They fake they have great stories. Who's got better stories larry. King the answer is nobody has better. There's no one. There's no one who has better stories. And and he had totally call totally wrong. Nobody just somebody who was thrust in his life for some strange reason because of living washington and being in media and but their heart attacks story it makes me laugh now does maybe. It made me laugh yesterday. Which i needed to where you know. Maybe last saturday Because you know henry. Aaron and larry king back to back. That's that's you know you know. And and they are. Both were both larger than life figures who i would never have left of knowing. Not even my thirties. Would i have jumped that. I don't think. I don't think i've probably maybe met larry king when i was forty but yeah but you know you have similar you just at least let larry head. Along larry and hank aaron unlike a lot of people who've leftist during the pandemic they had full rides therefore eighty six eighty seven respectively. yes and so you know you you start to be grateful for the the people that you know you you know. I'm grateful that the friendship. Linda roth which is through you for me. I didn't result in me. Maybe meeting him but it resulted in having contact with him and tony in this fall. Linda headsets other. She was the last time you had you put coming up on your birthday. Lunch with larry and i say it's been it's been a while and she called me back and said listen. I wanted to see about this happening. He's in the hospital and i was like. Wow and this is all. This is two months ago and you know you hope that he was going to be okay and then it just sorta seemed that he wasn't and So i you know i have. I have something to that that makes me laugh and it just brings a smile to my face. Whatever i think about him. And that's always the case but you know yet another morning where you wake up and you're scared to turn the radio on you scared to your ears open for anything. 'cause the new thing good has come in bunches lightly all right. I'll talk to you later. Tell michael wilbon boys and girls. We will take a break. Leon harris of channel four news will join us when we return. I am tony kornheiser. You're listening to the tony. Kornheiser show county gordon. And this is the policy genius read if getting life insurance is on your to do list for twenty twenty one policy genius can help you cross it off with these policy. Genius makes it easy for you to compare more than thirty top insurers at once and save over fifty percent in the process you go to policy genius dot com in minutes. You can work out. 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These are instrumentals. Michael if people like wow this is really good cole. Wheeler one send in their original music original music. How do they do it. And issue music by emailing it to jingles tony. Kornheiser show dot com. Leon harris joins us now and jeannie wrote me a note probably six in the morning yesterday and it was just this leon on a one and i got the paper and i saw leon interviewing larry king on a one and i said leon a one in the wa wa poll and you're still alive. That was a bitter media. Thought was my my open. So that's a picture of you. Interviewing larry at the newseum. When was that that was about maybe five years or so ago There was a sub this. I think it was. It was something that was. Put on by the newseum Like an evening. With larry king look at the life of larry king and he contacted them to them. Ask me to do it. And sit down. And be the interviewer which i was flattered as hell about and You know it was. It was really interesting to be in a in a sit down with him. Where you're the one interviewing him you know it. Usually you see these kinds of things that is supposed to be the other way around. And he was just as just as great as a as a as an interview. Subject as an interviewer same exact style very he. He was exactly who you think he is. You know same same comfort ability you know just laid back and very open to anything. Did you know him. Well when you were at cnn. I mean you were in a different city. But what was your sense of him when you were at cnn. Let's should say that 'cause We cross paths a few times. But you know when he first got there there was a bit of a well. I'm gonna say dissension but there were there. Were there was a lot of talk in the newsroom. About whether or not he belong there you late night radio show and so you know a lot of assume that the networks ourselves as competitive competing with abc nbc and cbs. And we were a hard news channel and we thought why the heck are we have it on a guy who talks to people who believe in. Ufo's at three o'clock in the morning And and and he never asked a hard question needs there's never any confrontation Or you know never really pushed the envelope in his interview. So why in the heck would he be good. Fit and sure enough. In short order he ends up being the highest rated show that i've ever era network and was that way for decades so i was on his radio show it which was done in crystal city. I was on at once or twice. And i've told people this and everybody who has ever been on this radio show. We'll swear that this is true. It is the most amazing uncanny ability of any human being. I have ever seen during the break. The four minute break from fifty six to own from four. You know at the top of the hour larry king would nap. He would fall asleep in front of you. He would fall asleep in front of you. he was sleep. You go well. What is this was asleep. And then he would get up and then he would do the next hour and you go. Oh my god. How can anybody do that. What a great ability. What a great ability that is. I was totally amazed by that. And i said this earlier. You tell me if you agree that in the history of cable television i would say that the two biggest stars created by cable television. All in or larry king and bill o'riley amid leaving someone out in cable news. I'd say yeah you can. You can toss. Oj in there too. That's that's that's a pretty fair assessment. And i don't think anyone anyone on the planet has conducted as many interviews as as larry king. I'm counting counting. You can count over. You can count mike. Wallace can atom altogether together every day. He did every day And that's one thing i have. I have to say that. I really admired him was that he was indefatigable. He he came and brought it every single day. And i remember reading what he said about why he had that. Prop microphone setup on the on the desk in front of him. It wasn't hooked up to anything but it was just strictly a reminder to him of where he came from and that he's got to bring his best every single day if he wants to stay there and that sort of was what he did he found out what he was good and how he was good at it and he stuck with it in road. And and you know we've all benefited from it. I got one way. I got you. Would you would that you. I'm sure you you you can identify with issued it. We were in philadelphia for the republican convention in two thousand and we were trying to drive to the convention center before our show started and traffic was completely gridlock and we at one point we were sitting still for about ten minutes in this one place so we want the driver of the van gets out and he goes over to the police officer and he shows them all our credentials. And says we've gotta get inside. You gotta let us inside. The guy gave sorry the president's on his way in here. We're not moving any anything nobody moves. Everybody stays right here mexican though sticks his head out the window and says you know who i am. I'm learning the complicated macos minutes. We had a single police car escort going the wrong way on incoming traffic lanes to get to the convention center. Larry king he was enormously. We'll liked. I mean i know he asked soft questions but you know what leon by the end of the hour you knew that person was that he was talking to if you if you stayed with it he elicited everything this is another little foible of larry king like he would always bring on people to that radio. Show who'd written books and he never read a word of the books not a word and he said well what are you doing. He said. Well i've got some questions. I'm curious about this this this and this and he always made it work. I mean he had. It's an invented character. larry king. It's not who he was when he was a kid. You know it's not what we was when he was a young adult but but that character suited him so well. I would guess that cnn. There was a lingering resentment because indeed it was not hard. News boy brought eyeballs to your network. Yeah he did he put it up. You put the place on the map if you really with him in the gulf war back in ninety one of those are the two things that the two moves that were made by my cnn that really made people sit up and take notice of the of the network when he got. Ross perot announced. He was going to run for president. Ninety two never imagined anything like that. What happened and now. You can't imagine a show like that. We're someone doesn't not go on there to try to announce their go to run for president. And i'll tell you something else. To they retrospect looking back at it now it at that time of night at least for years maybe up until the trump. Here's people didn't want hard news at night. People want it the audience. There was no audience for it so even though we kind of chased at the idea that you know we were button. Our hopes all day long. They're trying to break news. And then we turn it over to an entertainment based show and it gets all the it gets all the the the credit for raising the networks Raising the type of the network. That's what people wanted it and there a reason why that show is the number. One rated show is really really. Was it galvanized an entire country. I mean people tuned in to larry king and not not the way they did to walter cronkite years before because there's too many options out there. But larry king. Larry king stood above a lot of these things. When you were in atlanta. Henry already stopped playing. Obviously but what. what was henry allen's relationship to atlanta. What did people think of him. And what did they think of the braves as a result down there He basically you know. This town is Maynard jackson when he was mayor back in the seventies. You know try to market. This market atlanta's the city too busy to hate and hank aaron and his achievement You know that number seven fifty five. That did more to sort of break. The fever Of a lot of of the racial issues that atlanta had Granted the thing. That's really amazing. Looking back at it is how many death threats. He got the the fact that this man was able to focus on accomplish what he did when he was getting death threats and not just him but his children. I think i read that. His his daughter was at fisk university and they had the following her around at school because of death threats that she was getting and he was still able to do what he did. And you know the city really was growing up and trying to trying to get trying to put aside its reputation for for for race race problems and henry aaron gave them gave us a gay folks in atlanta a really big window to a big doorway to take a step through to bring out bring forth in atlanta that We got more people could be proud of and he was he was recognized as as royalty there he. I'd buy believe this. I believe that. In the history of american sports when you look at all of videos and you say to yourself i remember this why i remember that i believe that henry aaron hitting seven fifteen and rounding second and then third and those white kids. This'll black man hitting this and those white kids run onto the field to clapham on the back. I believe that is among the one two or three most joyous moments in the history of american sports. And i'm not. I'm not trying to be stupid. When i say you cannot watch that without thinking. This is good. Something good is happening here. Do you feel the same way about that. Not when i first saw it because wa home. I god what are we going to do to him. They can kill them right. Yeah but it was. It turned out not to be right now and it turn out. It turned out to be exactly as you say turned out to be one of the most joyous things you could possibly see and you can see the relief on his face when he that's right and the thing is here's here's what the one thing that always struck me about him. I've interviewed him a couple of times and I did one thing. I've never done and never done up to that point. I actually asked him to sign the book for me But the thing is you could walk in. He could walk into a room and you would never have any idea that the man holding the most important sports american sports record is is in your presence. He was just so so unassuming He was exact. Opposite of larry king in that regard when larry room people. Everybody would've hitler in the room. Hey could walk in. I'm sorry henry or mr aaron. Because he later learned. Did not like to be called. Hank when mr aaron walk into roman perfectly fine if nobody in their new new knew who he was he was bringing in there was his life. Do you think good or bad die. Because he had to endure yes he has records and yes. He has a claim but he had to endure much like jackie robinson. Terrible things. now we'd kill jackie robinson who died in his early fifties henrietta and live to eighty seven years old. So it it didn't. Do you think on balance good or bad. Well that's a good question. I would say on balance good for a different reason for reasons that that. Maybe it's the same issue that that jackie couldn't get over. Jackie jackie let. The pain gets a little deeper into him than had been henry. Mr aaron aaron you know kind of made it a point of just finding a way to not carry a grudge he. He knew his work was baseball. And he'd just basically threw himself into that and got as much as he could out of his life and his body out of his career with that and along the way along the way the country changed he made friends with people like ted turner. Who showed him a completely different side of white white people in this country and so it is sort of with him. He didn't carry that bit anger. He said he cured disappointment. But he didn't carry anger about what he went through wednesday. If you read this book I had a hammer some of the things that he reveals in that book that he went through especially when he was playing in the negro leagues and in his early years. In the in the in the majors some of the things. We're just just. Just abominable. I and i i i got angry. Held us read and get myself And you wonder how could a person come through all that and not be bitter and yet he found a way and he found a way to have a decent life in the process so i would say unbalance. It was a good life seelig but ceiling and he were best friends. They were together all the time. I get you out of here on this one thing. I believe he's the home run king. I believe seven. Fifteen and seven fifty. Five and i don't believe barry bonds but what do you believe. I'm with you on that. If if there were no questions about bonds if bonds have gotten to seven seven fifty Before the questions came up. I could see putting him in that conversation. But now i'm with you. Seven fifty five percent. Seventy five percents leon on. Thank you on tv tonight are you want. Are you working tonight. Oh yeah okay good. We'll see you tonight. Leon harris boys and girls. We'll take a break. We'll come back with email jingle stuff like that. I'm tony kornheiser. This is the tony kornheiser show. This is the turbo tax. Read you one of a kind and so your taxes. that's why turbo tax live has experienced tax experts. Who are ready to listen to you. 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Monday 6-15-20

The Mark Belling Show

2:17:37 hr | 1 year ago

Monday 6-15-20

"Good afternoon Milwaukee says the mark belling late afternoon show on news talk eleven thirty W I S. It's kind of always better June by. Sunny. It's not real warm. It's the kind of day that the people who don't really like summer. You know what I mean. The ones that don't like winter either, but they don't like to get. To the point of you know, wear, someone might sweat. What is it here? Sixty eight, probably a little bit cooler at the lake. Now. I think. One of the? Ways that you can master life. is to try to figure out how to make a lot of money without doing much. I mean that's like the holy grail is. The easiest way to make a lot of money or have a lot of money without doing much just to be bored into it. Well. That's not anything that person could actually do. The closest thing to that is the people who try to marry into the prenups came in the kind of got in the way of that. But otherwise I mean isn't the ideal job one. That pays you a lot where you don't have to do a lot of work, right? When you say. What are you doing here? Gregory at here producing the show today. You're like by the fifth option we have our you. Paul's under the weather today at Davis not working today at that's all. There's like other people who do what you do, but I don't know who they are. Like who does WHO's doing? Dan Show. That stave well Ed who does Jay. We have any other who has vicky show? That person's. That person works out of our Madison Studio. So, this is all we have right. If you Croak. Who would come into the show? Jerry with after Ed Mel. To stay healthy for the next three hours. That, point that I make about. Being able to make a lot of money without doing a lot. It is also true and business that I know where I speak I. Make a decent amount of money at all I. Do is shoot off my mouth. That's close to ideal. It's everybody wants to be what I am. The reason that everybody tweets out all of their opinions at facebook's out all of their opinions that the reason that the news media has gone from simply reporting the news now to instead bias, biasing and slanting the news is everybody wants to be a talk show host and I get that. I get that almost everyone would dream. To have? Incredibly. High numbers of people listen to their opinions. Most people can't get anybody to pay attention to them. You go to a public event. A party of our Eddie social gathering people that are really opinionated are the ones that everybody walks away from. You've seen that, haven't you? Like if you're at of. But should it be? A party. I can't stand parties. You like parties. Turn your thing up I can hardly hear you. Yeah I. I am to the other was a time. I might have like like that you at that same wedding reception for Paul's daughter. The at that I was at I. I left at nine. o'clock tired is could be. That's just disgraceful. I mean that used to be like two hours before I would go out. Now. It's by war. I mean I was dry. I have at home thirty minute trip. I was afraid. I was GonNa Fall Asleep at the wheel nine fifteen. I drank nothing. All right. This point that I'm making. About everybody, wanting to essentially be a talk show host. When I say a talk, show host, I mean you know being able to make a living expressing opinion I, mentioned the party situation. You're at a party. There's somebody that just spewing what opinion after another that they have and frankly not interested in anybody responding with their own opinion. This is the sort of people you just run away from. It's one thing if you could have an exchange where they express their opinion, you respond, but there are. They just want to hear themselves. Nobody really wants to be around. Those people that nobody wants to hear them, but everybody would like to be able to pull that off I mean if you're at a party, you're expressing European WanNa hear somebody else's opinion. If, I bet a party in Gregory's at a party and I expressed that opinion. Do I really want to hear your opinion? No I mean. I, you know I. Know, maybe if you're really interesting, which is where we get to this. The only time you want to hear from somewhat is if they are compelling. That's true of just about anything life. Why do people listen to rush? Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and not people who've never made it. They find them interested, but everybody has that desire. In part because. Most of US had real life can't get anybody to listen to us at all. And prior to social media. We didn't really have an ability for anybody to listen to us. I mean prior to social media coming around. If you wanted your opinion to be expressed. Both in your circle of friends at work, you write a letter to the editor of the newspaper. That's it. What else was there? If you're really rich, you could take out an ad in the newspaper. You could always run for office and so on, but that's sort of a different thing to just express your opinion in Saudi pay attention to it. It did not exist. I guess there was the protesting rioting. That's GonNa awed, but that's hard to do unless you're part of a much larger group, but into when you're part of a much larger group. Nobody pays attention to you individually. You're just one more person. March it around spirit or chant rocks or whatever it is. So it's an ideal situation. If you could actually be a person who so compelling that when you express your opinion, people Outta here. AB- now take it to the next step. You actually, that's your job. Unlike most of the people. Kyrie Irving now whiting that he doesn't WanNa play basketball because it's not that important. Kyri if you didn't play basketball, you wouldn't be important. We're in this environment in which. Everybody wants to have their voices heard. And the more they're heard, the more it isn't enough. What by great revelations in life? something. I'm always most interested in things. That I would not have thought of worked out that way things that okay I thought this would happen it does that's fine. But when something turns out the way, you didn't expect it to turn out, that's more interesting. That's G. Something's going on here. If you go back and watch any TV shows some say the fifty sixty s seventy S. When! The show was alive show that had an a live audience, or say a ballgame or a sporting event that was going on, and they showed the crowd. You never side anybody mugging for the cameras. The most. You'll get if you look back. Some of these shows are still out there. Youtube and there's probably some channels show shows, but. When the audience was sitting in the crowd, and they would all look up at the TV monitor, and they looked to see if they could see themselves of the TV at if their face was either they were sheepish, should they were the point a little bit of color? Area by the TV. Now that was a time in which it was extremely rare to be on television. I back from my era I. Like there were occasionally, kids shows that would have studio audience of Eight, attack I, think I'm sure the Bozo the clown and there was probably a couple of Milwaukee that we're like that and case if he and if you were on there if you're like a kid that was on the TV just as one of the kids. That was an incredible thing. But nobody ever acted up. Nobody ever said look at me and so on if anything was an intimidating take. that. I think the thing that changed. Everything was the camcorder. I know some of you are wondering. What in the world? The topic is always a topic, but it's always a direction. We're headed. The camcorder capable route which you say chilly allowed people to put themselves on their own TV. They could show videos and saw their your words. You can preserve anything prior to that. People had these movie projectors. We'll vk expensive. Hard the camcorder just about anybody could use. and then suddenly everybody had videos of themselves. They were setting TV networks. That were TV shows America's home videos at all that stuff going. So I would have thought. It became extremely common. For people to see their images on video, and maybe even on television. Now. You Watch a ball game or anything? They're cut away to the fans almost every pitch for those of you. Who remember what it was like to watchable Gable, we had ballgames early show or the other, always showing the crowd. You See of these programs you know some of these nighttime talk shows and so. Show the audience. People are out all the time. So your thought would abandon at least my thought. What a bad that it would become so commonplace that nobody cares if they're seeing on television and it's nothing. In fact, it's just the opposite. If. People think that the camera is out of the bank. People over to get their face out there. It's a huge deal. They wave around. You see people everything. They can to get attention. In other words, the bore attention. We've given people the more they want. Even though. I mean who has been on television at least that a crowd at least once every everybody has, but it's become a huge thing, and people just lust forward. To the point that they make fools of themselves wavered these goofy faces that they're making doing anything they can. Likewise. Social media created. Anybody. WHO WANTS TO EXPRESS IT? Opinion created a count on twitter or facebook or Instagram, or any of the other ones that are out there. While they slap out. If you say anything right, you can pretty much say jump most of the things that you want to say. And some people who are on facebook or on twitter, especially facebook I think. There are expressing opinions all the time. And the getting into all of these arguments and they're setting up these ropes. Now for the first time they have a forum. So again, your thought might abetted I. Don't know if I had a thought about it but with. Fifteen twenty years ago by thought probably would have been now that everyone has a forum. It would satisfy people's need for attention. They now actually have it outlet, and if you're on facebook, and you actually have some facebook people that go to your page. You know the old question than I always ask about the tree falling in the woods. Nobody's there to hear it that it make a sound. What if you're on facebook? Nobody goes to your page. I read their their buzzfeed. People like that I mean you can do likes, but you don't have to put a like, either do you actually do you have a way of knowing how many people went here page I? Don't think you what. You can see how many people are on the page. Yet what you have, but you have that shares likes I if somebody's just either at his reading it, you don't. Owe. It says there's five hundred people viewing you. Know. We'll wait, but if you had that, and it was always zero and you never got. What if you like set up a facebook page? But nobody knows you. Are Nobody ever searched you? Had you were just posted? These things nobody ever sought. Toss. That's Paul. Gregory said that's Paul. So. I think this might have been one of the reasons that it happened. So people create these social media posted, dollars edits not enough. People have more need to have people pay attention to them now that before. Every year that goes by people. Bang into one another more and more and more to be seated the camera at the ballgames, despite the fact that social media out there people become louder and louder and louder and more aggressive, more aggressive, more aggressive. Because now, it's not enough. They not only want to be able to express themselves. They want everyone to pay attention and the more attention they get. It becomes a drug. The more attention you get, the more attention you get. You need more and more if you have five hundred people pay attention you now. You need fifteen hundred. The old, saying while the novelty wore off with regard to this. Our need for attention and a need for people to notice that senator aid for people to see us. It feeds at itself. It becomes a drug. There is a point of no return on that, or that's at the point of diminishing returns. It's probably destroy of Howard. Ever satisfied life. You get too much attention. Get a any of it. It would be more in my category. Oh I wish I could like mark belling where everybody knows who I am and everybody recognizes me. Add people say. There's Mark Bellingham's mark belling some people. I'll admit defeat that some people that are well known they just bask in the attention. Pick of the poor guy all the time I never picked out of what he was here because. Think Jerry Taff. Of Criticism. He just loved being recognized. He loved me. There's other. Is there somebody in the media you can think of now? That would fit that category. That a lot that I could think of the. Cruise the Jerry Taff of today on local TV. I. Don't know that's. There's nobody who's like they all just blended i. mean even by maybe they. Maybe they could fit into that category, but they blended so much. We don't even notice that they're pops. Well. Yeah, I read, there's. Back let's face it back in the era of taff the TV TV newscasters. Actually had personalities rather than. This bland old sameness that you're getting from all of them now I mean. Can you even think of one TV anchor in town that you would say has a personality. Carol Makings maybe had she's. She's been on the air for thirty years. The ones that come in I just. As opposed to being attention or to you know a while. I Made Fun of Jerry Taft that he didn't like me either. You know. You could say that he had these characteristics of the need for attention so because he had an identity at a style. In the same way that. Even among the people who sort of were more of the blending in type, I'd say Mike and Mike Jacobs. That was still a style. It was identifiable that it was recognizable. Perry has a sense of humor well, not a good. Perry fit in that category of wanted people to recognize winter think. If periods wok it's real crowded areas over theirs period. You think even like like that. I'd probably would be an idol. To me, it's just it comes with the territory at its whether I like it or I. Don't like it. It's like saying you know rather tall wish. I wasn't tall. What are you going to do about a shop? Four feet off of your off of you? So on this point about getting attention I find that pete the once people get. They need even more attention. Now we're moving toward a political point. this sort of be able to have a job like I do. I am paid because people want to actually listen to what it is that I have to say. I admit I'm very very fortunate in life to have that especially given the fact that this is what I wanted to do i. always wanted to do something like this radio ad. I'd visioned Doegah. Talk Show even as a kid that broke all the rules in which you would just express your opinion and try to be interesting Ed. Break through some of the walls and structures. That radio always created. Most of which I felt were stupid. And what I find right now, is that almost everywhere in the media? They're creating a new set of strictures in which. There's a sameness that everything which is. Why would you listen to radio stations? Other than a handful of morning shows the handful of people been doing it forever. They all sound the same when you see the TV news acres that I've been describing they all present things, the same and the approach and take is identical. Why do you think every station that you went you turn to? They were all saying. We're all in this together. They all said same exact lied. It's not overly that they all had the same angle in the same take. They said the same words. You can't even figure out which probably for which station because they're all identical to. What other would you watch any of the coverage of the marches and so odd? They all had the exact same coverage they showed them in the exact same way of the reporters were all saying the exact same, thank? Well, I think one of the reasons that I'm successful is. The shouldn't sound like a revelation, but it is. I. Don't want to sound the same as everybody else. What's the point of listening to me? If everybody else sounds like? Bay? Even if you have a similar take on issues. Nobody would elicit a w wins. Said all day if Vicki was like me. We may have similar takes issues, but aside from the obvious. She's a woman and I'm a guy, very different approaches and style and presentation. Gregory works we're we're J. Show. Jay is presenting a personality out there. That is completely I wouldn't say completely different, but different than mine very very distinct unto itself when people listen to Jay Webber aside from recognizing your voice. You would know that you're listening to Jay Webber within forty five seconds. That's his way of approaching it same thing with that. Yet, in most people who are managing content for the look, the daily newspapers that have Erica with the executive like three of them. They're identical all these papers that Gannett whoever you're GONNA have head is called these days that they run around the country. They're clones of leaded other. They run the same stories. They have the same look. They have the same lefty take. They have the same sewer. The same stories that are blocked for one are blocked from all. Two three four exceptions that I can think of an America of daily newspapers that are truly different, a different style of different voice at a different presentation. Look at the late. TV talk and I admit I. Don't watch him so this is working mostly off of reputation. They all have the exact same slant of the issues. They're all hosted by somebody. Who if they have any political beliefs as a lefty, they do jolts of the same pain that people who are the guests on their exact, the exact same one a sameness to all of us at the sameness that's presented out. There is the same politically correct left of center slant. It's identical everywhere in the same way that virtually everybody is reacting publicly. To the demonstrations, the protests, and so on in the same way when the Kuroda virus story was the Davos story where everybody was out there, essentially saying the same thing. Well, you wonder why nobody's paying any attention to you. You have that sense of sameness, so the average person knows this. So when they're out there commenting, everybody's tried to do something to get more attention to the guy next to them in other words, the exact opposite approach of what you're seeing for the media. This leads people. In both their speech and their behavior. To be more over the top than ever. And when they over the top NECE. Crosses into the area of being damaging, destructive and stupid. We run into real problems. Eleven of the fifteen members of the Milwaukee Common Council are now signing onto a resolution to cut the funding of the Police Department Milwaukee by ten percent. This is a real reaction which will have a real impact. For as long as I've been doing this program. People have been Milwaukee have been complaining about lack of police presence, and the very very slow response time especially to anything other than really a murder. The number of times and we've done the stories of the program, a people who had somebody that had broken into their property and might even to their house. They have to wait hours for a police. Officer is legit and the response from the police department has always been the same well. That's true, but we didn't have enough people. Which is the problem you have crime and other problems going on all over the community. You can't send out an officer that doesn't exist. Now we have a push to get the police officers out of the schools in many cities. Only a year after everybody was begging for more funding to get officers in schools discuss the school shootings. We're going to get all of the police out because that's what the protesters said to betty. Everything that's being demanded by protests and people feel the need to acquiesce to. At, indeed the overriding message that you're hearing. Is the Fund Police Fund the Police De Fund the Police Fund the police. Because everybody says the same thing and the way the media's covering all of these stories. Everything is a story that reflects negatively on the police. The question is raised fund. The police of the Bedia take is to look at all of the ways in which we're spending too much money on the police again that same sameness. So lovey me. Finally end what started twenty five minutes ago or at least end this point? If you WANNA be noticed. If you want somebody to pay attention to you. And I would say this for somebody the out there on social media. Or anything else in life. Instead of saying the same thing as everybody else only tried to say louder. which is all social media's anymore? Maybe say something different. I made this I've made this comment? Two or three times over the last few weeks that I'm GonNa, say it again. It's extremely important there certain things that I want you to learn from my program. One of them has been over the years. Ask yourself why something is or isn't in the news. Don't just read it and take it at face value to ask. Why said there? Another one? Just because you don't see or hear something, doesn't it mean it doesn't exist? You could say that about a lot of things that it becomes. I think at the society that we live in right now, a greater challenge that ever. With people see something or hear it, but especially if they see it, has it stream lay disproportionate reaction to it then something that may have happened, but you don't see. I'll come up with a couple of examples. I wish had made a list of this. These are off the top of by head. A lot of people that are in jail for safer murder. I didn't do it I, didn't do it. You know how many people are jailed for murder who? Get, it They took the plea. Bargain or something, but the vast majority people I mean the prisons according to the prisoner is filled with people who didn't do it. So what other words? There's just people all over America locked up for murder and they say they didn't do it. And virtually nobody in. America knows anything about Eddie of. Fact I have if I asked you to name off the top of your head somebody in jail for murder. Who says they didn't do it? I bet most people couldn't name three people. But almost everybody can name Steven Avery. I bet for many of you. That was the first name came to your mind. Somebody's a prison for voters said he didn't do it. Why because you saw a TV show about it in other words because you saw batch show. From people who claim that Steven Avery was framed. That's the one that everybody knows about. So when you see something. It ends up having a greater impact, ide you. been something else that you may even know exists. Now. What if you don't hear about it at all? Well now you see what's going on with that. Just because you don't see. Here. Something does mean it doesn't exist. Just, because you don't see anyone opposing fund, the police does it mean that there are at masses who want to continue to fund the police, even a liberal city like Milwaukee. You've seen protests night after night after night after night, and now we love to the fifteen members of the common council signing on to cut the police by ten percent. This does not mean that everybody Milwaukee once they have the police cut. Now some of them they just get caught up the defunding police in the first a month and a half later. When. There's no squad cars their neighborhood. Why don't we have more money to the police? Those are people just think emotionally and don't think logically are there are people that like to be part of the crowd? By the way, let me move back on. NEPI respond to will point that I just made. It's real important for people to fit in more so now than ever I. Always Your Kid getting all heated. This is a lot over there. But people really really really need defeated. Why are almost all of the Athletes Liberal? Because if they don't, they don't head. Look at Hell for drew brees. All drew brees said, is you know I just but have to stand for the Anti Hanover my heart? He was ostracized for that. We'd has to be the guy ostracized. He wants to fit in, so he fell all over himself apologizing. Movie Star Is. The. Reason all of us can name the three or four or five of them. That conservative is because that's all there are. No. There's quite obviously quite a few who are conservative. Keep their mouths shut for the same reason. They want to fit in. So now, going back to the point that I was making about make getting attention. If you WANNA fed. It's got to be very hard to get anybody to pay attention to you. Because you by definition are trying to be like everyone else. You want to be like everyone else that you think that the way that you're going to get. Attention is to say all of the same things that everybody else is saying. What the reasons that might one of the biggest reasons that by program is successful? Is I say things that people don't hear much. Eddie, where else and these things that by and large people agree with? But they don't hear it anywhere else ad. They liked the fact that somebody is making the point in a logical way. When they agree with it and be. Feel happy that somebody's ratified the point of view that they have. So just because you're hearing everybody in the media and everybody in the public saying defend the police. If you don't think the police should be defended, that doesn't mean that you're in a fringe minority. It just means that you are part of a majority that is never heard. I share with the audience a piece in a bit. Know exactly what it'll be before the show is over. By a writer who says that the media and he's a liberal big leftie says the media is making a terrible mistake. By going all lefty and re suppressing all other points view. That it's going to actually backfire on them. He's not saying this because he believes that. Conservative point of view should be put out there. He thinks that it's destructive to the media. To behave in the fashion that they're behaving. There are some liberals. They haven't expressed themselves because they're afraid of getting an the wrong side of this firing squad. Who believed that it is terrible that we are suppressing points of view. All over the place. But they're not going to say so again because they WANNA fit in, and they don't want to be on the unpopular side of things. Can you imagine right now? If you're a celebrity said we're overreacting to the George Floyd situation. Could you imagine? Boy We're throwing the baby out with the bathwater saying we should have no police this that and the other thing Ed. So odd. Now every dollar dead liberals will say things that help you understand their mindset. Rob Manuals. Famous comment never let a good crisis. Go to waste. This thing that started with George started actually with Corona virus, in which they took advantage of that to try to do all sorts of other things that they wanted to accomplish like kill the academy, and so odd now let's move over to the situation with George Floyd in which you're seeing. All sorts of things being shoved down societies throughout, but don't have anything to do with a police shooting in Minneapolis or say police shooting over the weekend in Atlanta. Neither of which are defensible, and virtually everyone agrees that both were indefensible, yet it creates this opportunity for people to push push push push push push for all sorts of other things, and they're not going to stop because it works. It also creates an opportunity. For people to silence people that have gotten under their skin or that bother them. It's been remarkable just trying to keep track of the things that are going on and local government right now. Last week while we're Tosa, police. Held a city council meeting on rating in the police department head cool pushed for this. We know what their agenda is. She wants to go after the police. While the Tosa at is taking advantage of the fact that there were protests. About what happened in Minneapolis to do this? In the same reason that you're saying demands of people all over America? Virtually every company America's now setting up another round of trading. The every company is. Doing everything they can to put out there. Black lives matter bench message. All of these things are a response to something. That people on the left have been trying to get to get done. And they take advantage of the current situation to push for it because you have a chaotic kind of reaction in America you get an opportunity to get all sorts of things that you never would have dreamed would've Adad. There are for example people in Milwaukee lefties who forever have wanted to have less money spent police. That would have been considered a Kook position until a few weeks ago. So now it becomes what many demands they move on these things all over the place, anyway getting back to local government. I haven't tried to keep tabs on some of the things that are going God. And fortunately the one of the good things about the Internet is that it is give it. Individuals citizens the opportunity. If they're willing to do it to monitor what goes on to their local government, because most governments have to put the meeting notices up on the Internet, and there are some people eagle-eyed that are out there tracking these things unfortunately. The group that isn't doing. This is the media. The media is never the first one that picks up of this. It's usually jobs. Citizen Joe Citizen's see something. They'll generally tell me. Because they know that it's not GonNa do any good. To tell anyone else in the media so I'm not going to say I'm on top of all of these things in fact, I think I'm on top of only a few of them, but that that few is quite a few. For example tonight the the board of the Racine County Fair is going to vote on cancelling the fair. They've got that meeting tonight. There are all sorts of people who have wanted to use this virus situation a shutout at cancel all sorts of things now they're taking advantage of this opportunity again. Just because you're hearing a bunch of people. Oh, it's not safe to have Tony Fair. Does it mean that most people agree with that? It's just the people that are pushing for all of these lockdowns. The ones that get all of the attention. It addition to that the monopoly falls village board is a beating to censure. What are the conservative member Steve Taggart? They don't. They use as the pretext the statements that he's made about. Some of the demonstrations about George Flood that have gone out of a nominee falls in the fact that the school system had a big protests that went on with a bunch of people. Rip It on the police up. There falls. And he made some comments and some people don't like I. Don't know all them something about while the police are GonNa have target practice at the. Telling a joke, whatever well, this is apparently terrible, so that go to try to censure him once again. They have like Steve Taggart as long as he's been on there. Because menominee falls, is by and large at the municipal, certainly the school level led by very liberal people in a rather conservative community, and when somebody who actually is conservative has got to go. You can go back to Jefferson, Davis. The list goes out forever. If somebody, who isn't part of the Keb all that is run. That community forever gets empower. They can't stand them, and they look for reasons to silence them. I'M GONNA die. GonNa defend what Taggart's said because frankly I. Haven't seen all of it, but it is by point. My point is laying for taggart forever and ever and ever so they use. This is the opportunity to try to slap him down by censure of and hopefully that some of his constituents will recall them, so they can get him out of office, but they would have loved to have done this for ninety seven other things that Steve Taggart, but right now you have this incredible feeding frenzy that everybody s the fall in line and say the exact same thing that the police are monsters. Black lives matter that that's suddenly has gone from an anarchistic and T for related organization to a wonderful noble cause. Everybody's got fall in line and the momentum on this is just it's omnipresent in the same way trying to keep tabs in all of the county boards in this state that are trying to pass ordinances give their local county health officers, extreme and draconian at obnoxious power to enforce health orders. It's going on everywhere when people find out about it. They've had some success in trying to block them like it. Walworth pouty, but they're trying the same thing in Dodge County. And extremist attempt to empower county bureaucrats literally be able to impinge upon and People's liberty. There's another going on I believe. It might be tonight in Winnebago County I. Don't have The Times for all of these meetings, but again trying to keep tabs on each and every one of them. When this is going on with that is going on. It's not a coincidence that so much of this stuff is happening at warp. Speed all over the place. The Wisconsin Counties, association has been coordinating efforts to try to get all of these counties to put in place. These terrible ordinances add you have a lot of local government officials who again fall right into light on this, and they're not hearing any opposition to it because many people don't know what's happening so again. My point just because you don't see. Or hear. Something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But when your local government and you want to do something, and you can do it when you don't hear any opposition in part because nobody hit. Nobody even knows that you're doing. This becomes your opportunity to go for. So it is in times of chaos. Like this. That you will see people move all of these different fronts because. The public just feels overwhelmed with all the incoming coming from all of these different directions. So it's not a coincidence that when Marathon County is moving to passenger. Cody and health was Walworth and so is going so is and probably a zillion other local counties around here that I'm bad. Even aware of they're all good move at the same time. If they're all going to try to do a real real quickly, and then after the thing gets passed, and people wonder well. How did it get to be? That somebody! WHO's not even a cop can come in. And take by pets away at Bourbon furniture. When did that well ordered unit objected past these things tend to get done. This. They move out every front they can. The slapdown, Eddie one that's in their way. Everything becomes part of it. Drew brees happen to make his comments at a time in which essay the pressure. To. Say the exact same thing on anything even relates to the issue of race is over Welby, and there becomes no line of defense because as I, say the media has gone from a check on the powerful to instead. And overwhelming pressure group itself of one arm of the powerful. Those the very very laughed. Again that point. Just because. You don't see or hear. Something doesn't mean it isn't going God. I am rather struck. The other than an occasional set a youtube videos. How little footage we've seen in America of any of the rioting. Now part of this is and I. Don't WanNa be overly offensive of this part of this is. Most reporters now are pathetic whips. I've watched a lot of TV. Coverage I'll watch coverage of the Internet from other cities of the demonstrations that are going God at anytime. You started to see looting or burning. Going on the Acre would say that the reporter and the photographer. You need to go to a place of safety. What we watch it make sure to get out of harm's way. In other words, they're acting like human rights. Reach Bright, officers. How do you think we ever got any warzone pictures in the past some of the photos that. Were so powerful that they changed their lives. That photo that really changed attitudes toward the Vietnam War. Of the military officer, the South Vietnamese military officer pulls a gun and shooting a guy on the head and iconic photo. Well that photo was there because the photographer realized that being safe was it is job. His job was to cover the news. If you're out there at a riot is going out of your report your job I don't think should be to run away from the riot. Your job should be get up to. The riots of the people can see the riot go God. That's what the news is. Instead you have people that are so hell bent on being famous for being on television, being able to present the news being more concerned about their safety than doing their actual job ad. If there is a riot going on showing people, the riot I would say would be the definition of a news reporter. A news reporter, running away from a riot is to be the equivalent of a firefighter running away from a fire. You're writing away from news. But when you think about it that metaphor running away from the news, that's the media doing all sorts of fronts there right away from all sorts of news they don't like. They ran away from all the indications that there was something going on with support with Donald Trump twenty six, th. They ran away from the story. They did not want to hear that story. That's well. They missed it likewise with regard to the rioting while I watched some of the coverage early out of Minneapolis where. It would just ever. They're burning down there. Downtown by and large has been very very little footage of this, even in Chicago where some of the reporters wedding right after the fact and showed her Michigan Avenue in St Street. Every single store was busted out eluded. Single what of them and they showed the carnage? After the fact, there's there was from the TV stations very little actual coverage of this violence. What was going on? They were all gone. They were as awol as the Chicago cops were. So when people see the followed from George Floyd with a larger saying marches that are relatively peaceful. And as I said as stating consistently this in Milwaukee, the marches have been buying large very very peaceful. They've been only some exceptions. It's mostly behavior that is. Use the term and celerity the protests where people are driving around town acting like. Fools and driving through red lights and driving at high rates of speed the example. Of the Cedar Berg woman who killed her own friend when she had. A car that wasn't actually part of a protest. She was driving to a protest and Larry. I would say to it. In most cities, the marches have been rather peaceful, but there have also been in some cases riots that were terrible. A good chunk of Manhattan was torn apart. A good chunk of Soho was torn apart in New York in Chicago as they say the entire downtown at state. Street was ripped apart and looted and busted up. There was some looting in Milwaukee, although fire less than many other cities that we saw Philadelphia, the damage was devastating. We all know the situation in Minneapolis, but there has not been a lot of actual visual presentation of it, and there's been very little showing by the mainstream media, even people who have youtube camera vantage for each of putting that on the air, so people see again. It doesn't fit the agenda. We want to make it look like all of the response to George. Lloyd has been responsible peaceful protesting as opposed to some of it being. Looting by people who wanted to tear communities apart. And? Fascinating about a coming from people who don't have any grievance at all suburban white people who are trashing places into looting and stealing thanks. Again just because you don't see or hear, something doesn't mean it isn't going God. As I said I could have had come up with any number of examples about how that's true at our society that we have become so disbelieving of really anything that we don't actually see, and then we give blind faith and overwhelming overweight the evidence toward that that we do see. Somebody sent me this. This is a good one. It relates to this. The number of people who are have belief in God in the United States is a lower level that it's ever bad at ever. Now I understand why that is. If we live in a world where you have to see that, God may be present in our lives, but you don't actually see God is actual something that's in front of you, so you're prevost on faith. Faith is something that's very very hard for people to have. They need to see something. God, what does he just come down here and shelby well? I think that that's kind of the point. First of all tried to psychoanalyze figure God. What in the world? Do you think the God just like your next door neighbor where you can figure out his motivations. But, again when you don't actually see it. It becomes something that for many people is harder. To put their arms around. There's a survey that says that seventy percent of Catholics don't believe that God is present in communion. That's one of the things that differentiates Roman Catholicism. From most other forms of Christianity other Christianity has a comedian process, but Roman Catholics believed that the bread actually becomes God's body Jesus's body. That's what they believe. or at least that's what they did. Believe it. It's what they still are taught. Seventy percent apparently don't believe it. While you're part of a religion if you don't agree I, mean that. When you think of the beliefs that separate say Roman Catholicism from other Christianity. I'd say that's probably number one right. Suppose the other one is the Jesus actually formed the Catholic Church. I mean the people who don't agree with that or believed that the church airs. They'd become. Protestants are branched off into another thing. Why would you say as a Catholic if you don't believe that Jesus is holy communion for Heaven's sakes, it's just the defining thing. It's to me almost the nature of the faith but again. I've got ninety examples of this off the top of my head. That would be another example of well I. Don't see that doesn't make any sense. It's not like I see skin and bones attendance in there so therefore it can't be if we don't see something. We have a hard time buying into it. Let me stress again. Just because you don't see your here's something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just because you don't hear any politician standing up and defending the police being there are zillions of people who support the police. Take a break 353 news talk seven thirty W I. It's time for rapid traffic seven, hundred, four southbound just past the bridge. You've got a broken down vehicle that is blocking the right lane so watch for some slowing swirling around that scene. How do you know that though? Said on the camera it is. What if it was to get anything? That is another camera anymore. Oh, of course. See that's my point. If you don't see something that doesn't mean that the traffic jam does it just was just exists because there isn't a camera there, but when it's, it's anything, but people see something. It has a much greater impact on them, and they have a hard time believing something that they don't see if they do see something they extrapol- just like they saw the stupid Stephen Everything. I thought I therefore know that he's that. You didn't actually see Stephen every killed. Teresa hallback mutilate her body because you didn't see that, your who have a hard time believing. It crushed me. He did that. That's what the monster did. He did that the fact that you didn't see it. Does it mean that it didn't happen in the same way that anything else? That may have occurred in the world that you didn't see or that. The media chooses not to tell you about. Does it mean that they don't happen? It's becoming a larger problem given that the media. Media like everyone else has this agenda. It's the same thing that I mentioned on social media. When twitter and facebook on the social media companies are sanctioning at slapping down virtually everybody from the right, it forces people to say all of these same things to the left, and then they wonder why they don't get any attention. They feel the need to scream the same thing as everybody else only screaming louder than everyone else. How else are you? How are you able to get attention you follow? All of that got all them was better law but I think he's about. Half. The S. N.. Mark belling late afternoon shelter. The following segment albeit short very important because it's revealing. About some of the things that I was just describing. We've all been seeing nonstop protests ripping the police ripping the police ripping the police. This can create the impression that everybody hates. The police and everybody thinks that police are monsters. We have also seen across the United States. And almost refusal by civil authorities to enforce any of their ordinances. To half a public protest using public streets, you're supposed to get a permit. Virtually every city in the United States works that way and virtually none of these protests anywhere have had any kind of pervert. They're breaking all sorts of rules that protests may be peaceful, but it doesn't mean they're law-abiding. We've all seen the images of all the cars that are driving in people's sidewalks, and on on peoples yards, driving both sides of the road, people hanging out of the cars, not to mention disturbing the peace in the middle of the night, etc, or simply going and protesting and going past police lines after police decided to just move out of the way to leave them alone. Let him go out and do this that the other thing. Hardly any of these have had any kind of perverts. I'm not going to say none dead because some may have, but we all know the vast majority did not. And police authorities suburb city wherever has chosen not to enforce the ordinance in fact when police have used any kind of force, they have been criticized. This is created the desire on the part of some people respond to show their support for the police. Don't bother. Try to support the police in Brookefield. They'll tell you to jump at a lake. The following thing occurred over the weekend now. The genesis is bag and I don't know where it came from, but there was a facebook post that said Sunday yesterday. There would be a rally and Brookefield to support the police. It was posted on the website of the Republican Party of Waukesha County old, as they said they didn't do it. Themselves I don't know exactly what that means, but there was. A rally that was scheduled for people to show up to support the police. Obviously in this day and age that's got to be fodder for anti police people to show up. Encounter demonstrated, argue against the people that wanted to support the beliefs. So, what do you think the police had Brookefield did? They ask the organizers of the Polo pro-police rally cancel their event. Guy Yo. So they did. The mayor of Brookefield Steve Platto. Pudding today's from Saturday's Waukesha Friedman said the event was cancelled at the police departments request vote. Obviously we appreciate support, but we do not want rallies in support of the police. This is what the mayor of a city that oversees. The Police Department is saying. We do not want rallies in support of the police. Let's start with this who the hell cares if you water rally or that? None of the other people rallying around this country seemed to care if anybody wants to rally or not. Then, we certainly don't want to have competing rallies or demonstrations so. You're asking the people who wanted a rally in favor of the police, not to rally and they did. Have you asked anybody who added a rally against the police to rally? Can you imagine if that would have happened? If the Mayor Brookville was that? We don't want you to come here with your all. You'd be a racist out the WAZOO. So, the pro-police rally did not occur because the people who support the police want to follow the rules. They were asked not to hold the rally. They didn't hold their rally. So it's got to the point that the police officers who are sell Beleaguer caddy, but get people to come out and demonstrate publicly, which is their right to do in the same way that people have the right to demonstrate. Their told that they can't come up sold you. Have you seen any rallies? I take picture, said TV of anybody rally in support of the police. No again just because you don't see it or hear. It doesn't mean it isn't happening this. It's not because some people don't WanNa do it. It's because of this instance police told them not to. This is just like all the compliance that we had from these orders with regard to Cova. Don't do this. Don't do that door to the other cops. Easy doing this cop sees you doing that. Cops his either and the other thing they pull you over. Then all sorts of people choose en masse violate any number of laws in their quote, anti police protests and everybody. Just let's do it. Some will say well. That's just an effective strategy because if you'll. Just get matter if you don't if you try to stop them, even though they may be violating some laws, black and traffic going on the freeway. Driving cars on both sides of the street drive it on the lawn. Honky. You know drive it around like baby acts. In the case of the protests Brookefield we have to let them do all the march on Brookefield. City Straits, yell scream to all of these things ripping the place. But somebody wants to hold a rally a favor the hold onto that. You might have. Other demonstrators show up eight other words. The police in Brookefield. If apparently decided that the only people were allowed to protest are people who protest against police. You understand how perverse that is. No come out and support the police. Other people might show up and you might actually have a shouting match going on Oh. You're right. We can have a shouting match going on. Always have it is shouting for the last till wakes all for one side. Somebody tries to raise their vice on the other side. There's slapped down. You wonder why people think the world is going looney item. At again. Why did the mayor of Brookefield do because all the pressure comes from the left because Lord knows if there would have been people, scream at each other pro-police EPA, police, the pro-police people what benefit I can't believe you would come out and hold the protests that fear of the police. What did you think what happened? In other words? You're to blame for the fact that other people show up whereas the people that protests all over the place and bothering people who carry it on a rat race again which I believe is there right? This goes unencumbered. They could break Eddie Rural. When they're conducting their protests that they want whereas people on the other side, I can't even protest at all. Now many of these things and I mentioned when these things move to the suburbs. They moved to the suburbs because they could set it this to be low-hanging for. They knew that all you're doing when you have all these protests in the city as you're. Make it a lot of noise and commotion and upsetting people who already agree with you. We need to bring some of this pain out to the suburbs where there's support for the police, so they've tried to do some of this. And some of these local officials just rolled over lake in menominee falls, which were referring to earlier, the school superintendent said well. We didn't give them permission to have the rally at the school. Within why they throw a ball. Throw them out. We just decided to let what other avenue false. If you decided therefore that you're not going to enforce. The Prestige Tagger to shut off his mouth at the whole. Well, he didn't. He was not polite. He said the wrong thing, so we're going to censure him. 'cause he's not following the rules. We expected, but Albany false. We'll be there with the protest is they didn't ever permit throughout their. Carry it out at the school doing this that and the other thing you didn't enforce that rule and we see again what the reason is people on the left? No right now that they can shove his hard as they want. And no one will back. They do whatever they want. But that you do whatever you want, does it apply to anybody on the right? We can't even do what's legal. I have accurately described this. Imagine I'll use the football analogy as I go out of the break. Yet a football game. Where one teams defense, the defensive backs could grab tackle the wide receiver so the other team if it were the ball was the air. But when that he had the ball the other team. Let's suppose the bears were allowed to tackle packer receivers hold onto the Green Bay has the ball with the bears have the ball. If Packer defender even brushed the uniform, he'd be called for pass interference. That's what this situation is in America right now. Look at trump. Goes over in front of a church, which is four my guests of protest. He was protesting what the protesters said. Well, it's the worst thing that well I can't believe Donald trump put it flabby walked over to a church. Burning Dowd Watch Burdon F. Our citywide. That's understandable reaction, but trump should be able to walk to a charge. Again just because you don't hear anybody saying what I'm saying here, does it mean the people don't have that opinion? Just because the media is an asking these questions, just because the media not showing Eddie of the downside of some of the protests that have gone out in some instances that have developed into riots. Does it mean that there weren't riots? I've been pondering this whole showing of the riots thing heared have come to some conclusions and. Keep saying there that'll be coming up later. Out of program already packed of the future of the program with a lot of stopped. Nakhichevan thirty wins. Ad Mark belling late afternoon. Show just over the last few days. There been a lot of stories about all. It's apparently mostly younger white males. People that like. Sports Talk Radio. I guess. If fact, one of the people involved this thirty dollars Eddie. They're out there board years because. None of them work. They're all at a lockdown situation. Stay at home from work or many of them say like bar employees that would rather collect unemployment than go back to work, and they're getting still getting the government check and they got a lot of play money lay at, except it's actual real money, and instead of like stashing it away their goofing around with it, and the idea is according to the thesis behind these stories that to get I. Don't know if this is the phenomenon that it's. With bost- sports shut down there for people to bad. And remember. A lot of states have legalized sports betting beyond that Zillions of people have bet. Without regard to whether or not sport, but there's those sports that and. Most of the casinos around the United States had been closed. That people have been looking for things to do with their gambling, and they've been entering the stock market doing all this wild day trading. It's been quite a phenomenon it. One of the. References to stocks that will double in a day, and then crashed the DAX in order for that to happen. It has to be a very low price stock because it's hard. Without putting in a fortune to move a giant company stock like that, but. The stories of people that have been people are wondering why the stock of her it's had tripled in two days. Hurts is filing for bankruptcy. The stock is actually going up while in bankruptcy, but then after going up one hundred eighty percent one day I will go down sixty seven percent the next day. And, apparently was all these people that were trying to do day trading by something, and then sell it later in the day at Sarah it words they were using their stock market accounts to gamble the same way that you gamble in a football game or a gamble on a fantasy game, or you're babble on anything like that. They were using this to do it. In fact, some guy from this outfit called Barstool Sports. Who say calling himself the guru of this saying got an account. That's worth millions of dollars that he acknowledged while I'm probably down, but I know what I'm doing. You read stories like this. You try to figure it out. Not The first time day trading came around was. About twenty years ago, it was one during the early days of the tech stocks rate before the tech stocks crashed in two thousand. There's a Lotta day trading that was going out at that time in was right when people were able to start trading stocks on their computers. Vitamin after zero might even. Before of the other stock market meltdowns anyway maybe lose Zeros. Ever. It is doing the state trading because you can start trading stocks on your computer, and there are a lot of discount brokerage that lowered trading costs to the point. That was very very inexpensive to do so and this day trading came out of there were people that were doing info birch that were going to teach you how to day trade at Sarah. I actually know a guy who is doing this and. I mean he was like coke. He was like okay. which is the only way that you could just do this all day? And then have another job besides? And he was just getting off on the move of the money or over the money, all those people got wiped out. Which is why day trading pretty much ended other than the handful of professionals who try to? Who Know what they're doing or try to grab edges, and so on this will end badly for all the people that are doing this thing now. If you don't know what you're doing on something, there's a very good chance. Good a screw it up. And when people get a little I talk about in horse racing. What are the worst things that can happen when you take a guide to the track? For the first time, the first race he bedside, he picks on winter. Worst thing that can happen. It's the worst fake that can happen. The hope, this is easy. This is six to what I bet. Ten dollars I have sixty dollars. This is the greatest thing in the world. This is easy. Okay, it's easy all right. The part of the story that. I'm not capable yet of fully understanding, but I want trying to understand it is. Why. People are this particular generation. especially males are so willing to lose money. It doesn't seem like in fact, one of the stories that I. Read I think you in the Wall Street Journal. On on the red it forum, people are like the bigger the more money you lost that a trade. If you can post proof of the amount, the a lost the bigger a hero, you are way to go way to go in. Go while it other words. They're bragging about h