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"Sandra back from jer to Melwood and I get a flat tire. But that's okay. A motor, man. I know what to do a pullover. I get out of the car. I get my phone out. And I do go. How do you change a flat tire? But there was no reception. So what I did. Then was I sat down to die. It's hard to make a living from comedy that are plenty of funny. People who spend their nights making people laugh, but very few are able to give up the day job. Simon Taylor is one of the select few. Jianrong Jayasuriya Jayasuriya are at Chica. Being John Charlie Elizabeth Walsh at every graduation ceremony at the university of Melbourne Fianna price rates out the names of new graduates. Leads us, nor her knees. I read them out in Tuesday in clearly and uncomfortable, and it comes across. Kohl's kept coming from faculty Danes, and they pay as the Danes were very nervous and intimidated by the great numbers of multicultural names, though going to have to rate at a graduation ceremonies. Could you on a help with pronunciations at graduations and could she provide phonetic spellings for the names to and then inevitably could actually read the names at herself at the university of Melbourne, graduations? Kath moved from south astray Leah to study the doctor of veterinary medicine at Melbourne. She's veteran resident at zoo on an average day. She could be kidding for any one of the three thousand three hundred animals there from the tiniest fish right up to an elephant surgery that we use for any procedure that we do at the zoo, unless it's a really big animal that we might do Don enclosure, everything from the tiniest, little bowed or even fish. So we've certainly done fish on ascetic in hit. So just how do you need to a fish? Want to hear these stories and fool search for three? Oh, one or go to Uni melt dot EDU dot AU forward slash three. Oh, one for these and more brought to you by the university of Melbourne.
"Sandra back from major to Melwood. It's about five hours. Now, I'm only half an hour out of milk JIRA. And I get a flat tire. But that's okay. I'm an adult and the motormen. I know what you do a pullover. I get out of the car. I get my far now and I do had change a flat tire. But there was no reception. So what I did. Then was I sat down to die. It's hard to make a living from coma. Komaki that are plenty of funny. People who spend their nights making people laugh, but very few are able to give up the day job. Simon Taylor is one of the select few. He's what he calls a road comic spending. The first part of the year performing Australian comedy festivals. And the rest of the time tuning over the last eight years or so he reckons he's done around three thousand shows in a stray area, Asia and the United States. This is his day job. I'm trying to change the tire. I'm trying to crack the nuts for the wheel keeps turning. But as I'm trying to do this this old Ricky ute comes down the road country town pulls over out steps of blog. And I mean a plug. You know, those guys was so full of testosterone. They can't from words anymore. They just breathe that you to like all might. I'll tell you what. Tell you what. And then there are in tell you anything goes. But as a road comic, it's not only flat tires he has to contend with the week before Simon came back to campus to speak to three or one. Oh, he admitted on social media to spending twenty five minutes in the virgin check in queue before realizing he was flying Qantas. So I'm glad university prepared me for the real life ties like knowing what flight you're on. This is actually been a problem the last three or four months, I've been touring so much. I swear I've gotten off a plane once and gone white which city am I in. So it's good to be working as a standup. So I'm very grateful for that. But I also in such a blue of an existence that you know, you fly virgin three times in a row. And then you just assume the full time, you're flying again. So glad people on social media. Simon studied psychology at Melbourne, but never actually plan to be a psychologist a spell of short term jobs made that very clear quite early on. I just think it was very obvious to me that I couldn't hold a job with a boss. I I'm very inquisitive in the sense of I won't do something unless I know why? And the reason and I get very angry at people's habits in systems that don't make sense. I moved at home at eighteen studying here, and I would have a job at a restaurant online on street and work there for a weekend. Hate it quit use that money to pay for rent and then three weeks later need rent money, again get a job at a different restaurant. Unlike on straight then were that weekend pay for rent quit. And so I've worked at a half a dozen or more restaurants online, gone straight. That's not to see his training and psycho. She has gone to waste. In fact, it's come in very handy, onstage empathy helps because when you are the myriad of mental illness this out there and dependency on substance, and and all that sort of stuff. So at least I can, you know? Empathize with with audience members. It's very rare that I would ever be aggressive to a Hekla or anything like that. I'm always like, oh what's going on? What are you going through? It's happening. Would you like to tell me about it? So yeah, I I think that kind of putting yourself in someone else's shoes comes from at least studying behavior and people in social psychology. So you aren't actually counseling people, but just your hecklers just the Hickel just the people who need it. I mean, the I I guess I guess I'm kinda canceling my cell phone stage. But when there's a heckler like, I think while you go problems worse than me. Let's focus on you for bit. I'm trying to change the tire. I'm trying to correct the nuts. But the wheel keeps turning. That's the Santa someone who knows how to change a tire. Simon was a bit of a bookworm often. He'd find himself sitting in the library spending hour after hour reading and losing himself in Utah psychology socializing just wasn't on his list, man. Oh, man. This is I don't know if this is true. I learned magic. I was actually I was at home practicing magic tricks or in the library studying loss of writing essays. But yeah, it didn't do I didn't do the funds social things so much. I kind of scoffed at them until it this isn't gonna make me educated. And in reality that was the education. I needed think more than anything was out of the social and speak to people I had some romantic interest in instead of writing love letters to them in the library. I did that a lot. I write love letters to people from the library. Yeah. I was a bookworm and a melodramatic. Rick loose. Simon phoned is creative spark early. He will poetry tried break. Dancing singing and writing songs improv and magic. As well as Sunde up. But it was in the most unlikely of settings that he developed his comedic skills while still at university he began working with children with autism. So I did that for a number of years, and that actually told me a lot about entertainment engaging with people because the biggest part of the therapy was with these kids you had to reinforce positive behaviors. So if they did something good you had to make them laugh for them, a magic trick or pool of funny face or go outside on the trampoline. So the majority of your session was entertaining them keeping them happy giving them rewards for the good behavior. So that was kind of almost perfect juncture between psychology. And and entertainment. I'm really grateful that I had all the studies here to kinda build my brain for being capable now is a freelance or in a way the stand up you're pretty much freelance and all the oldest subjects like philosophy which told me logic and critical thinking and. Psychology told me statistics. And the empirical research science all that sort of stuff is actually really effective for just general life skills and making decisions. So I actually feel really well a quipped to be self sufficient as an entertainer we've got the it's lowest was strolling accent. That's unique us beautiful. I'm half Italian. I heard it trickle in twelve language started with a Toyin triggered into broken English became its lowest ralian check it out Joe Camel morning Kabila Jonas the here rally or start a small business mode. If you want to good deal come say me sprinkled in heard it. It wasn't until his final semester that he became involved in union host theatre he performed a magic show that made him realize that the stage was where he belonged stand up who's just the most pure form. I thought he could just be anywhere and talk to people and make them laugh, and I just love the idea of being self sufficient entertainer that you don't need gimmicks. So propsal instruments and things like that. So even though I bring a lotta those old skills back into my shows. I wanna be able to travel and talk, and that's why I've landed here because of the practicality of it. He just didn't want to suitcase. I didn't wanna big suitcase. No, I can I can go to a city for a weekend with a backpack, and that's -joy. Some fun. Let's talk about Muslims. There's been a lot of tension with the Muslim community. I've been reading the Twitter feed. And a lot of hateful tweets coming up. Muslims should go back to where they came from. We should block Slim's. But as I'm reading my fade, so random tweet come up from fun facts dot com, and it said, fun fact mosquitoes have killed more people than all walls in history, which I think we can all agree is a pretty fun fact. If I come stage. I haven't made them laugh which suddenly happened in the first, you know, year or two you could just have it just the death gig. And you still can if you're trying new material I will come up. Well, how could I have done that better? What do I need to fix to have made them laugh? And then if I have a good gig. I'll think that was awesome. I want to get back on again. So there's always a reason to get back on stage as far as I'm concerned either to resolve the issues in the set or to shed that material in these days, he's increasingly shading his material with audiences in America industry. Leah once the comedy festival season is over it's hard to make a living just by appearing at comedy clubs and radio and TV gigs are hard to come by. So Simon like a lot of economic heads overseas. LA New York, very crowded committee. Seems is just so many people biting the stand up comics for various reasons in LA, it's because they want an acting career or media career and stand up his his something naked at least do every day. But if you're an actor darn always have auditions every day or Pam practicing Kroft everyday. So so it's very hard to even get stage time over there. But all the other cities that I perform at a, you know, pretty wonderful stand up comedy sayings Denver is really good. At actually remind reminded me of a lot of Melman lots of small rooms and Bosch shows that you can do really solid club. It was when he was tuning the US that he landed one of the hottest gigs in comedy writing for the tonight show with Jay Leno. Oh, I lose on cloud nine. It was crazy. So when I got the contract after sending some jugs, indeed, it was the scariest most and Zadi Phil moment of my life walking that letter to the mailbox. I I was in West Hollywood. And I was walking down the street, and I was shaking, and I was overwhelmed like this could change my life. These litigating there will change my life. And I was just so the wound by it was so surreal that I met him that he asked me to send jokes in that. He liked them that he wanted me to work for him. So when I happened when I first got my jokes on the show. I I had just landed back in a strategy. I was doing some shows in Adelaide, and I watched online, and it was so odd that I was in America for two weeks. And then I'm back into stralia now writer for the show. So I was on a high for for a long time and. What was interesting is that in America people very excited about your achievements? Oh, you've done. This amazing isn't credit your great while in a stray area, the toll puppy syndrome is legitimate. I remember not telling my friends and local comics that was writing for the show for like two months because I was kind of embarrassed about the achievement. And this is the exact response. I got from the first comedian. I told I said. Hey, man. I. I just became a rod for the Tanatshai. Jay leno. And look to me said. Yeah. But you still shit. So you know, I was kept grounded by the local comedy sane. But in terms of feeling satisfied with the work. It was it was a joy. Back home. He's also written for one of a steel. Most successful satirical, comedians, Sean McAuliffe while Simon makes living to writing and performing jokes. He doesn't mean handing over some of his best lines. No, if you writing it in their voice, you wouldn't really do it yourself. I don't think I've ever on stage. Senator joke written for anyone else. Because it's especially with Leno. He's type of jug for the monologues was very specific to his style and his point of view and the same with mccollough. I mean, those are more sketch scripts anyway, so I wouldn't really ever do that. So if you wouldn't do the jerks yourself, there's no worry about handing the babies, you just want jokes up to be honest. You on them like them and use them for them to work. Miskitos of the real enemy because I don't know about you guys. But I've never been bitten by Muslim like never. No once I've never been bed at night trying to get to sleep with the Muslim man just going. Get outta here. I'm. Miskitos are the real enemy not all mosquito. The majority of decent hard-working mosquitoes. Just the extreme ones that make the others. No after spells rating for comedy central in net flicks in the US and hosting his only at night talk show on community television here. He's back on the road. You know, being by continental is kind of helpful in that you can keep the income going keep the skills building throughout the whole year of than just waiting for the comedy season. Not just America performed in India and southeast Asia, you turn up, and if you're your comic, and you do a spot and the other comic see you spot in that you good then be part of the family. So I really enjoy just being road comic for that reason being accepted. Just because you're funny. You're one of us. You've been listening to the three or one podcast written and edited by me Val McFarland and corpus by me and Vereker Yokich music by Rhody Clark. Chris Hudson was our audio engineer. If you enjoyed listening to this visit Uni mail dot EDU dot e you forward slash three one oh for more stories copyright, two thousand eighteen the university of Melbourne.
Deadly Discussions Episode 9
"Welcome to deadly discussion the podcast on social entrepreneurship. I'm your host is at Carson a lactic knowledge on the usual land on is in who record today they were under people of the Kulin nation. Now, I'm very excited because I have Tim when he in the flesh in the studio, I think this is the ninth episode, and I finally convinced someone to come at to kill soft to record this. How you going tonight to me? Yeah. Great. Thanks is. Thank you very much for heavy. It's nice to come at see the criminal. You have a Veon. That's a guy in you'll probably see on the footage that I'm wearing an evident jersey because we thrashed Manchester. United four nil on the weekends. So I'll be wearing this old to torment my stuff when I get back to the office. Please excuse me. You think I just look like a walked out of a pub from England let's start with obviously you'll story you've got heap. So you're Larry human from the northern territory people call it the wild north while I call it. The wall. Now, you claim it's very light back. But I hardly imagine. It'd be more light back than Queensland. You want to elaborate on that? Yeah. Now, look the northern territory. It's it's just a way of living. You know, like it's a Sunday afternoon sitting having a nice Kobe beer out at least into some live music and having a chat with friends or going out to the springs, and the waterfalls and that sort of thing. So it's. People just tend to take law if it a little bit of a slow pice, whereas in Melwood, it seems to be gogo guy. And you know, you're doing emails while you on trends and places whereas dollar if you if you say you've got a a meeting at one o'clock it actually means one ish anywhere between if you get there anywhere between one thirty one forty five you still on times is your presence. Yeah. The fact that you actually make it there. So if you got northern territory back to back meetings. Mind all European Dari going. So you're Larrakia, man. Do you wanna elaborate elaborate on what that tribe encompasses land wise, culture wise, it might be different from what you've seen down here in in, Victoria. Yeah. Look for me being Alaric. A man was something that I found out a little bit lighter in life. I didn't actually grow up knowing the fact that was aboriginal are found out that my father who raised me wasn't AIn fact my birth father. So having to find out that realize Asian, and then also being told that I was an aboriginal, man. Yeah. Was a was what is sort of a big heats at the time. However, I didn't really know what that meant. Yeah. I had aboriginal nights and friends growing out with how what that meant. When I started to CEOs aboriginal with something that would find out later on in law. And yet the truth is I actually didn't know about racism that until I found out. I was virginal. And then I started telling people. Yeah. Yeah. And what I found was the original community that I was growing up in those actually at school Glen ROY at the time down in ole-ery and my original nights were like seriously. And if it'd of a jockey's a German aboriginal father's is me. Jim. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. So it's it was really quite an interesting time. And then I actually had to because audion meet my birth father until I was maybe think it was eighteen years of I so then I had to learn about my culture as well. And what it meant to be an average person. You know, what it meant to be co myself Alaric Ahah, man. Yeah. And first few years, I was a little bit hesitant in doing that. Because they didn't know enough about my own culture to be able to speak to be Pula bad a win if they asked what does it mean to you to be alert came in? Yeah. So an awkward position to be in. It is. And it was a big journey. You know, it's taken me, you know, the better part of fourteen years to really sort of understand becomes able and, you know, one of the things that I know and in speaking with a lot of my average community members that have sort of God at me along the path is that it's just a feeling of who you are an a sense of belonging and familiar. Me being Eliakim wherever I'm endowing. And that's that's outrageous, down towards Adelaide river sort of way up north feel at home. And if I ever need to break or just need to form water, you know, where see people if there's moving water if I need to get away from the stresses Elvan, you'll often just see me sitting at a beach and just listening. Yeah. And and looking for that gardens, and that sort of would from the ancestors through through my culture wise. So it's it's very powerful. Once you sort of embrace it, and you wanna stand it. But it wasn't an easy journey to get to where I am supposed. Yeah. Definitely. I think it's, you know, we're very oral people and got the cave paintings. So yes, only gin dasta for Balkin Stott, reintroducing yourself to indigenous culture. However, the cubby cubby we've got dictionaries that we've had worked with apologists all able to find, you know, the suburbs and. Sunshine Cho's like Budeina, which means son beim got merchantable, which is black swan also Kabul Shah, which you don't be caught at Gotcha late at night. He's classic carpets nyc who know, you know, it's a place that means place to carpets nyc. And it's has lots of Cup snakes. So. Yeah. For us this some that's in tax or able to go back and really touch up on that. Also, we share about you know, my English English Saad as well coming from Yorkshire England. The my great grandfather, he left everything you had jumped on a boat. I'm probably read a pamphlet about astrology. And it looked really nice and had call full beaches and open land and Freeland by by the way, lots of gold and opportunity probably thought. Wow. This is exciting. He pulls up in the mayor bar poet. It's -squitoes. It's the swampy Meriva. It's mangroves this average, no people they're on it to impress that you're on their property, and he probably thought hang on. I got sold on something different back in England. So YoM learning the balanced by for those and not be to the extreme to one because you know, other countrymen and us blackfellas one in died without a why brothers and sisters in what will one in two. So it's about that reconciliation for the long run working together. So how does a German, man? In and uprising you'll self in the territory that to me is. Yeah. Well, why father moved either from Germany well back in the early might be light seventies early eighties. And at the time. Why mother obviously had a relationship father yet? She was a single parent, and they met up, and apparently the story that I was told is for my mother is at United, and my grandmother loves to tell stories well is how good of a man my father was in. He was just pure and genuine, and he fell in love with Maeve as much as he did more mother. And you know, I it's I'll we forever grateful that he came into my life and he's been an inspiration. Because you know, even though it wasn't. He's first born he's never treated me. Like, I wasn't. And he's embraced my average heritage. He's always encourage me. We've had conversations together about it sign with my mother, you know, the I've had a a wonderfully supportive family on my journey. And when you think about what you have to go through in learning that you know, that you is not your father you now, you're not German. Yeah. For years. I thought it was German here. And today in have that if you didn't have a supportive family, you know, see how I could've spoiled pretty hard. So of course, there's been a lot of tough times. But through it'll, you know, my father my mother being the been the bedrock. Yeah. Well to push me forwards and you wear that surname with great pride. Absolutely. You know, you know, I it's a sparks a lot of interesting coma. Sations came over. What's your last name? What like genera at work win, Ma Dutch German as well. So. Yeah. One of the most famous indigence what he plays, and he sends a wooden. Absolutely. So you're not for me. It's great. It's actually a really good talking point. Because you know, one of the things is it allows me the opportunity to tell my story open up to people about it. And I think that's really important that is. Yeah. You now culture it's about story sharing, you know, and talking to people, and I think we were a little disengaged these days, we don't get people stories and in this spice. You know? I want to hear about your story. I want to hear about your culture, your heritage and educate your mind. Yeah. The stories Assam important, and then told by real people, I think advantages, and we'll time to where you're working at the moment. But I think a lot of big corporates now really struggle connecting with consumers all everyday people because the I don't have a face of the company anymore. There's not this solid is no Ilan Moscow the company he's he's pretty crazy now. But you know, there's no you had, you know, us really. Anchor. For example, you know, the movie he was the brand he's the face you buy the stuff because of willy. Go factory is the brand you know, it sort of tied in. But now companies are just giving it back to shareholders who are faceless in hiding behind the scenes, and they got nowhere on the front foot to actually engage with people and have a conversation because it's all been corporate is and taken away. So let's go into a little bit authentic. It would touch on it now, but we'll touch on a little bit. So for while that you're a single dad, you're a single down the territory, so you've had a rollercoaster of a loft. So you found that? Yeah. You growing up man. There's not really a father is top like this support you on a staying aboriginality moving on. Let's go fast forward a bit. And I know you told me that you a single dad for wall as well. Yeah. Does a bit of a crazy situation, you know, in my youth on many, young woman and Spock seem to seem to fly and everything seems to be going. Well, and you know, she got pregnant so we decided that you know, we we wanted to do the best child, and I was excited United to have a family of my own. But at the time, I was living the Dow, and I thought well, I wanna be around support network and said my family have always been the bedrock. So we moved down to all reap. What has and everything seems to be going? Okay. And she gave birth and. Yeah, a couple of weeks sort of after giving birth. She really didn't want to be a mother. So she wanted to go back onto the territory to be around a family, and you know, it was really difficult situation being follow with a with a daughter. I follow with the door. Yeah. Well, yeah. It was it was, you know, it's tough law changed, everything my priorities. That's the thing. But you know, having that amazing support my family. Yeah. I'm telling me in that time was fantastic. And then sort of phosphor to the ends, my ex came down in she played on the fact that I wasn't so allowing much all know her family and learn about their culture issues from east team. Oh, yeah. So I didn't want to do that. 'cause I knew how it affected me knowing that. Yeah. So I'll let let her have it back in the the short story is that instead of getting a backup paternity tests in the miles. Ain't was never my daughter to begin with well, which you know, crushed may as a person and my family because we thought we had out my mom and dad thought I had the first grandchild yet. You know? So it was it was it was a really difficult time and try to like share that with friends and explains to friends what I was going through was very difficult because they go to sort of reaction was well you dodged a bullet you back to single you're going to be good. But yeah, but when strong indigenous culture, and a strong family whole, that's everything. Well, and you know, like, it'd be rising my family and being an all I'd been rising these charts four zero to two. This person was family now blotto naught. This is a family. We still have photos of my daughter in my parents home, and you know. I would I'd be lying. If I said there is in a die where she pops up in my mind, a father holding his hand with daughter or something like that, it's a massive trigger. And but that experience our guest for me told me, you know, a lot about resilience, and you know, trying to look at the positive so on either if I'm lucky enough to have a family, those light, not feedings changing divers spending time with kids, and I guess all appreciated one hundred percent mole. Yeah. Because of what I winter. Yeah. Of course. So it was obviously something that on aid to experience on my Jimmy and very strong willed person to very high for two. Yeah. Well, you know, where resilient mov savage. You know, I think it's it's just something that I needed to experience in you know, whilst it more of in looking back. It was very painful time. It was the best couple years of my lawf-. And I wouldn't change it for the world. So yeah, I had was sending agree. Sometimes you have to learn those ways, I know when we found out we'll pregnant with the second. And now, I Bohm's on the eleven months old. I think twelve months old, and we will living at the mother-in-laws while we will say saving for a house, and what a slide this is not the right timing. And but what sort of sort of smack me on the other side of the head? And maybe realize it was that we had a lot of family and friends who are in their mid to late twenties. Now you've been trying for years to conceive and people knew spending hundreds of thousands of dollars one hundreds but ten twenty thirty forty thousand dollars over time to try to full pregnant and just not happening. So we just learned to appreciate, and you know, what there's a lot of people. Out there who would do anything for this opportunity to conceive, and we're going to, you know, just be appreciative that it does change your frame of mind, not saying when I get up at two in the morning to change an act of you. Baby girl that I'm like, it is the greatest you know, what I'm seeing chains. I'm so Hof falling asleep on the couch. Sometimes I never make it back into the room and wake up and in my. Yeah. So exciting. So let's take it to the next stage of your loft. Which is what you're doing for your work. You'll you'll business everyone has business. Whether they run a business in a business. It's called business for reasons. So they say the saying, it's none of your business. Anyway, let's go on suit Kohl's working at Cole's. And you'll position is I'm the indigenous talent acquisition specialists that calls so basically calls for years of Ed an amazing entry level program. We employ fifteen hundred new average toys right on the team members every year. Yeah. Well, and the natural evolution of that was to look it's retention and creating leadership opportunities and getting that. Percentage up into what we call leadership position. So it it's it's the first time that they've really sort of stepped into this end. I put the time. It's my position was created last year. And I came on board with calls in December. And the us oppose the Mizen thing in with causes that finding out that they a major culprit. We don't just have one person we actually have a tame. So there's five of this working and all Al key areas to achieve our goals. And through few moments. I it's really an amazing atmosphere to thrive, and I believe that the way that we've got it set up and structured his the way built for us to succeed into well. Our team members to really see what it'd be locked to develop a career with calls because the the funny thing about calls is you can take you career. Anyway, a lot of people think about the supermarkets and things that both one of our original team members who works in the Melwood head office with oneself is a food scientist. Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say that there would be we see supermarkets, but we don't see is the huge team at two wreck road that just every Dow perations on I think calls have their own energy purchasing team. They buy from wholesalers everyday. That's how much power they use such cheap. But employ a team of five ten people to purchase energy and try that during the day that that's a major blows my mind. I think we think. Yeah. The calls is just it stops out a storm, and John and then things get delivered. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's the that's look I believe when I first looked at. 'cause that's what I always thought is my local supermarket guy down there and do my shopping set up, your laptop, and then I go into Iraq in the hub there, and there's four and a half thousand people that work out of that every day, you know, they have teams, you know, from digital which is a massive teammates. We actually have in Allen Holmes who yes. Talent technology is actually working at the moment. So it's always good to catch out with with the brother and brother on giving. Yeah. So it's just amazing the array of positions that I have that. I mean, we had a dedicated shifts. You have your dedicated back. My Brian stay when I was on the tools that have a KMart. On in that building just for the stop. Is that true? There's no came out in the hot. Motte? But they they do actually like we have doctors dentists days, you know, if you've if you've got kids they actually have daycare facilities. Wow. Especially I take fly bys at the calls daycare center. We'll have that. Absolutely fly boys levels, just a coupla level. But it's amazing. You know, we have kids running around. We'll have kids days where into the heart and saw there's all food and everything different foods sort of outlet. So you've got your coffee shop you sandwich. Shop always a roaster the day going, and then there's another area they do different food last week. I think it's been sushi and that sort of stuff so still looking for indigenous people, of course, we we're always looking for digitize notice. Well, you had me, you know, brother you. We'll have a conversation. We'll be quickly. But you know, that's that's another amazing thing, you know, about what causes it when you come to. 'cause you know, going to be just the only black vice there, you know, we have just under four thousand two hundred team members across the contrary. Well, and we're the largest corporate employer of aboriginal choice right on his in the country. So and and we're not looking to slow that down. You know? It's if anything we're ramping it up, and we're trying to do it in the best possible way. We can. And I know you love your job and just hearing the energy in your voice, you can tell you love your job. What's go into because I think there's a whole block in this in the future and the ten year timeframe that'd love to go into biggest employer of indigenous people. Now, we know a little indigenous people love to get back on country whether temporary to recharge and comeback. All permanently is part of the goal on it. That's part of my goal in the ten year plan is to go back to copy country. All settle in. In the top half, maybe nam nana's area, which is very which is the Buddha can river and then develop my local community with assets on country with food with or different stuff cultural training tourism opportunities. They're crazy love to touch and people talk about food scarcity, and you probably heard it around calls. But can you foresee a lot in these indigenous people coming through going back aiding indigenous farmers or corporations have you seen any of that stuff? You know, future proofing when all indigenous people get into, you know, netted Tato clients getting the recognize aboriginal potties treaty conversations where land is given. But we'll be out actually to use the land, which is going to be amazing. Can you see that that's energy happening? Look, I think that's a really important point. Now that average land is actually giving back to the clans that, you know, the original owners of the lands, and they'll be able to yield is that. Full businesses is gonna say a huge dynamic. She used calls we currently work with some aboriginal farmers YoM, and we're working with growing them develop them to be able to supply more products, especially with fresh produce a grinding night, and and allow people to work and stay on communities with their family and Styron that coaches, so I guess for us, the the major thing is allowing them to go and expand the why they want to you know, when all looking to ask Esso's into different areas, and that's the thing. Yeah. We want to work with you to get the best results. You can't. And what's best for you in your community? So it's very important to us that we do it in the Rottweiler. And we're having those conversations at the my winning looking at ground at and with the way that it's all going, and, you know, the talks about food scarcity, and that's the thing. It's it's bottle that we're doing these things mail and and for the future. And for myself. I spend a lot of time on your country, adding Alabama homelands, and I have some great areas where they used to years ago grow crops, but it sort of fell away and on but there's always the opportunity to use our soil's again. Because this I rich in talented. So I would love to say more of that happened you and if don't read, you know, doc Eimi by Bruce Pasco, the the yams the wild Ross. And if you want to grow Ross, but I'm Asian Ross which absorbed in draining land, ready drought ridden country, and we look at. Yeah. The games wild Ross. And what else are the wheat the which is well, the blends of weight having with some of the from the night of trees along the Murray and actual week belt said original people hat, I would culture and for. I was like whenever that book goes like the same pretty out, then it's pretty much no book as you realize we had a lot of things down patent it was removed. But then a hearing for modern Las week about Putney Guinea stool harvesting up in the mountains, the old the old ways. And I was like that's what it what it would have been like without people still harvesting the old way since about reigniting that an employee digging that into a calls or an algae all the other fellas whatever that cold talking about. Did your phaser that favor there so connecting it into a commercial application where people going and buying night of Yan's appeal impatiently white better for you and made for this country. You know, I look for those is on you're going to be massive pot of it. So you more on employment or the procurement Saad within Shelby will I guess for us. It's a where it's very much about a team. If it, you know, we've all been teams we'll be joining for various expertise in myself having a bit of experiencing procurement working with supply nation who. So I know a lot about but we have a dedicated race souls. Who's now looking into those business to business relationships and making sure that we're driving forward in the rot wise. We're very happy at the moment that were advises we've spend roughly six and a half million dollars a year with average businesses. We use about forty six different organizations at the moment jot, there's always room to grow our. So that's really important for us. Right now is looking at that. And developing that, it'd be further also in ten years from now, Tim where you that's a really tough question to be honest. Oh, I know Russell probably listen to this. I have said to me at the interview that my goal was to get. He's jove. Oh, well, that's the team. But I guess one of my goals in. I'm not sure if it'll be in ten years, but I've always wanted to go back to the Nolan territory and to become the CEO of the lark Development Corporation and really use my skills and expertise to grow opportunities. Father Larry capable we have some amazing talent in the band. And I would love to say more opportunities in them to grow and expand to share their knowledge with the rest of his Stryer. So to be able to give back. Yeah. It's a mock community is is real big thing for me. And brought now I'm just drawing the experience. So that when I can go back can go into that top role and really Mike that gives me goosebumps because, you know, the traditional love strife loss twenty thirty years, and I'll finish this off is lot of femme peel farming. Go to Uni in the big city Melvin Sydney Brisbane, and they stay the and they come back to. Taught but now with Lotte I- digits people it's on oncoming in doing the hard work. And getting the the skill sets that I need and the education and go back to develop my communities, not us give song cards when I when a hey you sharing that because. Yeah. Just gives me goosebumps. We'll it's way my passion laws, you know. And you know, I've always been a person about following your passion. And I met a what you do in this life. Ye seemed to be happy when you're actually doing something that you love and then. Yeah, joy. And for me, you know, everyday I get to work in these spice. I get to learn a little bit more about myself my show. And other stories foam, you know, other clans around the country. So I'm very grateful that I've had the opportunities that have had and I'm grateful that people have supported me I've had mazing mentos. And you know, I've got to work with some, you know, just inspiring people in every day. You know, I get to meet more and more amazing aboriginal people across the doing things that just blowing my mind, and you know, I'm still working towards Madria him. But the fact that this is the spice that I mean, like, it's a mate these amazing people just pushes me to dry food. So that when I go back tomorrow country. I'm actually I will to give everything. Yeah. As much as I can say Olsen. Well, thanks, Tim. Well, thanks for coming on. Thanks giving up with you end of the year. Absolutely. Sounds right. Awesome. Thanks. Thanks.
The Money Men - Caulfield racing review
"Welcome to the bunny. Man Name is Julian joined as allies boy Benny Clifton from the sports trading floor as you wake being Benny. Good wake. Obviously, the story of the week is the Mass Spain made mandatory. Head you with your mask wearing this week? That's ridiculous you are. What are we? What are we going here? That's anyway. That's title Roy vessel you to be Larry with. Sure people have issues with it or something, but anyway hopefully we're wearing masks actually really thrown. You're actually as completely open the offbeat. Treasure this week four corners last week. I think it's on after the show usually. Four corners last week day. Roar terrifying real pace on the Italian. situation the COVID nineteen over there, and just in the health department. What the doctors and nurses going through? Got To watch it. It's so brutal okay, and for the people doing an amazing job for the people. Tore Stra. Hats off, but we can do up wearing it moss caufield track. Do you think applied played great thought? At five maters when there's no winded coffee is probably the fares track in Melwood. Authority you could win from wherever. In saw. Win on the inside as well so authorities pretty fair in general, do you? Off Brilliantly played absolutely sensationally. Vince alqadi sent the toy story, so thanks for that put into our database crunch the numbers and it's rice as a genuine good for no problems with that whatsoever. Let's crack on rice one even tempo here a tenth of a second and so I'd standard. Time Benny Twenty, three, four, five, eight, twelve, flat, last, four, hundred glass, two hundred. K. and probably the story of the rice is the short price favourite heavy dance. Well he's very very good last up, but woods very plain on Saturday. Very disappointed are thought you say. The white loomed into the rice off that good. decision guy back was probably vindicated that it was a good Tampa. And at the three or made them occupied, probably thought it was still going to win and last hundred meters at Laden aren't enough. It's pulled out with an injury because it has had injury injuries in the past, but it's very hard to back from that. Always concerned when I heard that they were going back. Gate thought the the money for the whole suggested. It was going to go forward, but Are Thought the why the race pay the it was probably in a decent enough spot and it and it was very disappointing for one year. I think you bring up. Some really good points affected at lighting. Sort of that lasts four hundred meters is usually so as there is, there is a problem we know. This horse had a really long layoff. Inches to say what the price in came junior came come out with resource, but as you say, it's always tough to back from that job. Going forward. It's so sold in the market. Do you trust at market going forward or is there enough to to note to not worry better for the rest of the camp where we speak about it a lot, you've got to trust the with these horses so to ten into a dollar eighty, so that's the positive sign for the horse obviously doesn't run up to the market expectation, heavenly emperor, six, fifty, two nine now is saying. Father to seeks screaming twenty eight to twenty six, we talk about the pros wanted to I wanted to play with evidence, and they just got this one horribly wrong. We Sco I. Mean are twelve months ago. This would have been heavily supported the raisin being the person that's left fixed odds market Dr Nick all is wanted to back. They imports I up. When they first industry, it done over seven furlong plus. Back Horses Well obviously not happening this week with man. In Chris Wallace pulling not really a bidding. Can't you find some stables? If another state will had this horse in their camp, there might have been some early money for which would've prompted other more support for. A lot of the pros they wait to safety any money for the night back can really snowball and start a lot shorter, but in this case Chris and not really abating camping, and there was no late from the market for these Walla I just want to mention some stats for him. He's a Camp I. Find it very difficult to get a hit or and especially in Melbourne last twelve months thirty nine from three, hundred, forty, going in eleven, percent last six months thirteen from one hundred and sixty going ike percent. Far from. His lost twenty, three young at twenty two percent, Puglia in moments in. Maybe he's got this camp and foreing so just be careful of that, but it's definitely gotten better than what has. Chris Wallace Stat says well. He's never going to try that winning percentage. To twenty percent. He has a lot of. Which? Vying but he's also stay which take a few runs to hit the so those runs effective stats. Yep. Let's get into rice to hear Benny. This was a good fast run rice. Point six of a second inside standard time now he's the worrying part. Twenty four I lost four, hundred, twelve, twenty two loss to one hundred, which is both the worst of the die for both sections there. But flinders river cut the inside. rondos. A really good Rod Cute Rod from Craig I thought, and it wins the rice. Before these preparation good, I ran behind saw, which is a very promising. Hayes Horse Improved into its second outrun Craig Williams went on so really good set up for this rise in the money in the market really fanned it. Did as we talk about the pros with I knew here ten dollars, Wednesday afternoon the six dollars fifty Saturday morning, and then heavily gaining to five dollars fifty gets the job done saw allies since sensation whatever you WANNA call. Such noise action sensationalized. Three, ninety to four dollars forty and Zesty Bell for twenty hundred four dollars forty, but bark wanted to be with this winner through. On that horse, Finance and I'm not even GonNa try and side, but day of deliberately nine that to affect the rice calls. Possible interesting you did mention. Ice Is Rice at these flinders river came I. Want to just talk about this with the pundits pounding team follow that Rice had seen Dan that ice our one fourth since one. The Rice V was flinders river. It's one the rice seeks is coming out, and since ran third in an in another rice near the pro derive, and not a Zach second and third have yet to run again. Look for those two horses. The market loves these rice. Democracy love to Horses Bay with him. Rice three, and only a softly run rice. Here Benny but Acosta Standard Time. Twenty two six to last four hundred, which was the best of the day and eleven seven, which was very good. And she's safe got out in front sort of back to a dry tracks and positive signs to be honest, absolutely smacked him. What do you think of these rights in general? Originally thought going into the rice tie that always concerned about the Reis I. Now come out of and guy. I think the win is gone enormous for it. I'm worried about the rest behind them. Behind because I've got a theory because these maize rice. As we talk about him every way, can we? We always say how they know good. The. Not Good but they're not a rice to follow and I. Think the case they can be against the same to you. Get a foreign, the horses who? Taught Tom of their preparation and again I'm that really well so evenly. Matched talent was the met much more importantly May. Seven to seek, so we know the pros like a bit off the map. That's what the K. was there, so it was good support for air campaign straight ten to three dollars nine hundred dollars. Good I up, but I didn't want to part of its second up. Propel I'm going to get to it in a minute and river jewel eleven into seven so good support for river jewel, but runs seeks propel three to four dollars eighty finishes fourth. I did some work on propeller, so horse that. Punches, always one obey with and again puts a sort of flashing law sort of running fifty. Three wins from seventeen. Obviously, that concerns me fifteen times. In seven races started under seven dollars. We talk about it every week that you want to be with. Such lie percentage plays horses. They get back in the field and propels a bit of money much these days, absolutely right for it was over the staying journey, and this was at a pretty good tempo, this rice, Benny, half a second inside Standard Tom, twenty four, zero, four, zero, six and the average, but this is over the staying journey. And how emotion two-horse, paying off thirty five days off, but it didn't matter especially in this kind of camp. We'll talk about that camp a bit lighter, but. This is a good performance I thought. This is also back into made and when it got. Scripts improve improving every run on. They're trying to particularly with the person. They trying to get as many runs in their three year old campaign as possible while they're up and going picking off a fair bit approach money so. Think. She moderated their ceiling or she'll probably go for a spell. Try Comeback Light Spring early summer, but Of going to be Stein horse of SETAI quality, but nine zero anything above that, personally for the market perspective, grinning ally, three seventy two. Ford always runs fiefs off that. If it went rented Kramden Lord Boozer on rocks at four dollars eighty. It's a horse ran pretty well percent three twenty three dollars eighty finishes second again it runs well and emotion sixteen to. Another ponting teepee for the punt is August. Think Ma and EST is you need to bonus them? In twenty, four hundred plus rice and Rice was just short, twenty four hundred meters, but for the sake of the argument. Last year twenty two from ninety seven, going at twenty, two and a half percent, twenty four hundred meters plus Navy career is going around sixteen percent sixteen seventeen percent. So already there at high base, and then that's actually going when you get to twenty four hundred, plus so I think that's came. You can trust staying Janney just tonight on purse. Authority was the runner rice I- kilos ahead to give the win was lifting front to early or think and I think this is the horse who's got a real chance to be horse going forty. OUGHTA Majete gophers pound because he's been up a long time. I think he's the edge of all the horses in this is i. think he's got the best chance of progress into a high level. You spoke about a little bit rice like oversee goes respell. Maybe it's not a huge spell because I think a rice, the Barakat, which is worth a lot of money you know at the back end of the carnival reclaim been cop something like that. He's throwing up scenes Ellie. I would have thought going forward rice five. This is an even tempo here Benny. Twenty three, four, eight, twelve, zero four home which I thought was pretty poor. Half a second hand so I'd stained. Tom This is a rice that concerns me. Yeah always on tessie he I'll start with a Jisk-. She got caught three, but this was this was the running the campaign, and this is the Tom to pay and a on on being from now on. Even though she was caught, water thought she was a little bit plying. It's very odd to improve fourth and fifth running for a whole city I've as distances. Finished has been for more near, although chassis was a good effort. Auto Mall and John Processes are trying to little philly. Overall the race. I think they've won. The race of the told me from Th The LYSA law says three year old. I think they can maybe snug. One more win- This campaign, but I've role. I think the rights given the bunch finish. K., probably not wonderful. Yeah, concern, no margins Chessy! We SORTA at first stop. It was eleven into seven. It was a really good performance, said it was in for a really good prep, so that was a good result for four fifty rich for fifty four dollars eighty only went with chiefs over chassis that was an interesting move mark wanted to play with that, and you're not the only one that fan fitness test nine dollars into five dollars, so interesting to say what the market does Knicks dot, or just WanNa. Get up a graphic of these spray pie again of these last two hundred meters, Benny and just focus on. I think a lot of paper will black book. These was Patrick Pine first up off one hundred twelve days. We've highlighted. It didn't get a lot of walking this rice and then. Sort of is probably the flashing law sort of wants. It doesn't really even get spice at all so people. I think off the videos will go. Oh, that was a really good run. It's going to be winning soon and through the law and it's pretty good. Just be very very careful about these unlucky runners these black burkas. When you then go and do the rice in review, the rice and the rice is actually pretty junk. The right hasn't gone that good overall. Just beware and Modi go back through it stuff. It hasn't really put up a figure beforehand. That doesn't have a number there that I can build off. That I think is just be careful that because feeling a of people will charge into that whole dot on business. You want an unlucky run ahead of a really good writes. Absolutely Ron Rice still finishes off. Really well runtime well goes quick. On the right thing is when a horse caught on tape on sticks on really well, it's not visually appealing to the offer a lot of people, but if you do enough, you can identify those horses because I if they get software on the next round, the. Horses to follow I think the one thing about that is a lot of people WANNA black book horses that are charging. One thing got to understanding is I? It's a low percentage. Play every dorm. If they're going to be starting back. You want to be trying to find those horses. The considering the first four out of a fast run race. What have some residual fitness? Can really then. Springboard off that absolutely so for the black book there I think I'd be looking horses in the first four or five, not those horses that are the flashing law. It's because they get bit. No because they just have a bad racing pattern over bit next starred as absolutely sure. We'll be back after the break last four races at coffee. Welcome back to the money men we dissect in coffee obligingly stike! Here Benny slowly run rice. Half a second standard time four, hundred, twenty, two nine to last two hundred eleven, which is very good for the. Well. We could wax lyrical about this for twenty minutes but China tactics for Morrissey. Last two weeks ago were very scathing of the tactics on Morrissey when they decided to go back in a slowly run race. The Race Trevy, my friend one Craig said I'm not doing that again. He's a superstar goes forward. Absolutely Brian's them and. That's the end of that. It would have been the same result two weeks ago it. Was a similar rise. If not a little bit weak- and I think sometimes trying to get off for the word Gaetan. Tell me what again on Saturday. Love the gates. Come across. Is Nice painting silence disadvantage? So they obviously got the tactics right on the fan of these horse or I think he be at a place in early next year, coffee four eight hundred meter. It's a real specialist course. Are Think. This is a horse got the magazine the end of the end of August is. The end of all correctly maybe doesn't even probably along with the whole slug straits of Avalon who comes up in a lighter rice, but They can in these races. The stays prepping for the longer rice as hosted with Rice fitness. If they can get. Later Coalfield I it could run a rice rice all that I think you have a laugh with. He's a very good, but he's not. He's not anyway need him. Or our. Time will tell it will. Run. A bit, but. In terms of market Trevy, my friend, four forty four dollars sixty. Three to four hours, twenty and eighteen Morrissey three forty little bit software to three, hundred thirty, which was a surprise knowing the change of tactics actually came through these China technically artist on understand that they didn't do a change of tactics two weeks ago. They've anyway. I can't talk. Because just doesn't make sense. He has a piggy he, so that's a positive sign for Morrissey going forward. There is just another horse that I just want to mention just apply. Booker I think he can follow these rice. It's Rivet Deloitte. It was three hundred ninety Dicey Benny. It's best over sixteen hundred meters, probably even a little bit further eight hundred maters for Lindsay Smith. Twenty six back into twenty one little bit of speaking with this group one was. Over, in the UK early on scrape host called Yucatan. I've Ramal artists recognize really good prep for these whole was probably even just enlisted. Just find a rice somewhere. I've a sixteen hundred eight hundred maters. These prep e can win foyer Deloitte. Rice seven was the blushingly. Even tempo here. Nothing to a about this twenty, two six, six last four hundred eleven, five to last two hundred, which was the best of the dice. That's positive signs, but show it should be. It was the best race, and Damian all of our fantastic ride Jesus could rice radar and we talk about it all the time. You might as well just stay in. Treasure because he's such a beauty, but. It was a good Roy to go back to the inside with. These very versatile Oliver. Obviously you can him from anywhere in the field, but just when he lays him for that last. Ronnie always say everybody leaves a little bit UPI. Slave I'll think very. Dana taken advantage of the top sprinters on Iran, the moment in as up and going at the raw at Taunsa or think wants to be better. Horses come back in the next three or four ways. I've more putting me up for a spell. He Al- He'll get fan daddy tough, but this suit in the end of the grants rice. This is these level isn't when he tries to get. We've standing before we try to get to these great one. He can run a good rise. Rise Third Force Count Atlantic Win One, but he's going really well for the camp. Interesting from a market perspective, two dollars sixty into teen Sodas Senate, I- rice die, and then just got really soft light becker that two dollars sixty, which I found interesting jungle edge back to a good track. We know what the market does. They absolutely beans at four eighty dollars finished seventh beat of support for great again six, fifty, five fifty on that Santa might fifty six fifty and straight developments. Really the horse that the market really wanted to be with seven fifty into four hours forty was first up. We know it's going to be looking at Lawrence in two weeks and also the MMC. It I thought that was a really good performance from it. We for short great great return, and it is GonNa try and take dies rice as a little bit of rice fitness age on feel the other horses who will be resuming in those races so i. think it's a really good campaign on the fraternity last year. Bates Super, said yes, we know that was the boys track on Domin Day, but it does the things that you wanted to do with seats itself on Spe, which is a high percentage play, so it's going to be a horse. It's gone over. I'm really well in a magazine. He could be a metro playing straits. Tomorrow gets getting that way according to some absolutely right site over the stain journey he this is a slowly run. Rice Heeb any twenty, three, nine, four, twelve, one I not sensational home, so to Rice at an days, alright against each other, and they might rise against each other in two weeks I think there's a twenty five hundred meter race at Flemington again. Had the plight first time Mohammadi's. We've spoken about this a little bit in terms of. What the market's order does with coins of horses. Since January tweeden's men sixteen. They've on sixty, one, eight, hundred and thirty races, winning at a seven percent weaned strike right back to every one of them. Twelve percent on your profit on your turn. You would but defies it and boy. Oh boy, the market smacked it and we don't want a few stars. The markets it as well it was. The census stable inspired money more than pro money, personally that that's how it feels to me just in that they seem to identify the the time that is ready to go and may be the pros. Jump on the back of that stone for money, but. There are bang on with these. That's a really good point. Three sixty to fifty six to four in the old and of going back through its nine winds. All those winds of just a bit been really heavily supported knowing fifteen to seven fifty on debut, then five dollars solid the at laws when it was twenty, one thousand, one to two thousand, five into ninety sold at even money to dollar, sixty solid, seven fifty four sixty that right. She talked about three races ago when it went, and in three sixteen to two dollars fifty. They knew here and this is a rice. You follow because the market absolutely knows a bit. Mohamed is w Taylor. Tactics were completely wrong near A. Closer into Tommy Flemington last rice. Solely Ron Rice here twenty eight eleven six to last four, hundred last two hundred mystery short makes it far from five. You said it no good well wins again, but did so. It was not good. Produce takes you on Saturday morning months all the scratchings came in and said Hey hairdos. Mystery shot not just laid this win. And what would your reply? Leaving braiding yes, exactly and. Not wanting to jump of jumped on these holes white to light, because I haven't backed at any of his previous starts, but I don't think much went for it. He with weekly Tangun Iran and putting pressure on. Thought Markle Road Halley's nerve and I got a gallon at the Tom and to get the job done in facing adversity was a really good result. To into a dollar sixty five, but it's regretting. Writing didn't do as good as what to starts ago, so in terms of that the going to the paddock, and that's the right move. I think it more off the cliff. I went one more so well done to the camp far from five. On Tam was outstanding standing from timing. All of hey is just such a good rice rod. He was there to bake. Mystery Short wasn't good enough, but it wasn't from lack of trying Jesus Good Restaurant Decent Austin we. Got Another rice at least camp. Absolutely, we'll be back after the break for trash and treasure. Back with the money in he attrition treasure. What's going the bean? Benny? Fitness tests thought third out. This was the time to pay. She got caught Renoir, but I can't say peaking next up. Yes, spoke about it a little bit propel. Just not doing enough from a win streak, right paw gets back. No, thank you. The other one I want to mention is the tactics on W.. Take mentioned it just with Rice. Eight Mohamed is rice. Just going to try and put it in the rice settled, really also bred Gottardi out into a really good spot midfield, and then just let the rice evolve so maybe in two weeks. If they ride this horse a little bit more positive, he'll be hard debate at Flemington. I've a twenty five hundred mates. He'll he'll? He writes one. Rose on Saturday the most disgraceful bit. Reckless bit of ever saying he came to the at sort of the later took down Andrew Atkinson hot and hazy. Andrea can comes out with a broken collarbone, broken ribs, punctured lung and a broken leg. Made me feel, seek that. Yeah, it's it's not a great look racing. In look, this is not one to. Signing! Law here I think, but he's done a fantastic job or just think he got this one wrong terribly. He'll have to cop it. It should be a lengthy suspension. Hopefully the stool can do it really quickly, but we don't want this near rising. He's done a great great things for arising here, we byman. We're not bashing him here, but got to be better than that. Sport deserves better than that and every participant deserves to be looked after. That was poured watch from a betting perspective that was tough and and I'm sure he feels bad about it and condolences to connections of hot and hazy. A bitter pill to swallow Yep Yep absolutely well said. Treasure. He just needs to stay near. He's an absolutely jet or just thought. He's rice riding in town when it got, Peyton was fantastic tactics. Marcy we put it in the trash lost Gary back into the tragedies, white stress of avalon ready for a big campaign. We'll be back next week. We now head to the valley used to be called Mooney valley, but it's cold. The Valley I think detracts going to be a pretty good condition will be back to that seething.
72: Bangladesh Bank Heist
"I've heard a few stories of people robbing banks just to get a few hundred dollars. I heard this one story of a guy who walked into a bank. He acted like he had a gun under his jacket. He placed a note on the bank teller counter and the no quietly said, this is a robbery. Give me some money. To tell her straight enough handed over some cash and the guy ran out. He risked it all just for a few hundred or thousand dollars. And then there are people who rob banks with bigger goals like they want to score one hundred thousand dollars to do this you might have to hold up the whole bank, not just one Taylor which causes total panic. You need to jump behind the counter and empty all details and maybe bring a real gun this time it's intense and crazy. But for some people that still isn't enough they have even bigger bank robbery ambitions, they want to score a million dollars and that kind of bank robbery is not easy. You have to time it just right like just after someone makes a deposit or maybe you plan to knock over a few of those armored bank trucks all at once but some people have done it and it usually takes a lot more resources and skill to pull off a million dollar bank robbery. But still that's not good enough for everyone. This is a story about how big group of people with some very interesting ties tried to rob a bank for one billion dollars. These are true stories from the dark side of the Internet. I'm Jack reciter. This is dark net diaries. Support for this episode comes from privacy. Dot Com I love privacy dot com I've been using them for a while before they even became a sponsor. So I'm super excited to tell you about it. So here's how it works. You sign up on their site and you connect them to your bank account. 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Who would have a billion dollars lying around for someone to grab a billion is a lot of money your average consumer bank like your local chase or Wells Fargo Bank branch not going to have this much money anywhere probably not even in their bank headquarters your typical bank is out. So we have to aim higher possibly like a federal. Reserve Bank, or something some bigger place that has a lot of money. Robbers. Knew that national banks would have a large amount of money like this like countries Reserve Bank. So they started looking around for what national banks might be a good target. chose. The Bangladesh Bank? This was an interesting target to choose as far as central banks go Bangladesh has a growing economy and is starting to really flourish, but it's still a developing nation and its central bank. Does it have the best security? No, which might make this an easier target than a more developed nations national bank. Like the US Federal Reserve Bank. So the Bangladesh Bank became the target which is the National Bank of Bangladesh's like the Federal Reserve. Bank the Bank of England it's you know it's like the country's bank billions of dollars of reserve currency is sitting in the. All right. So the target is set. Now this group has a special weapon they're pretty good hackers. So they're planning isn't to bust down the door, draw their weapons and shout everyone on the floor Gimme a billion. Dollars now, that's not an option here. Instead, the plan was to hack into the being Podesta Bank and transfer out as much money as they could before anyone could catch them. It starts a full year before I think it was January twenty fifteen. The first email started popping up inside Bangladesh buying your employees get the classic phishing email. It's a it's a zip file contains the Stevie for somebody who looks like a job applicant opens it file. Has a look at the survey or baps doesn't forget the CV but nonetheless, they get infected three people open the Mellon Bank and at least one of them in fact. Okay. So the hackers or in this case, the bank robbers infiltrate the network. Now when they get in using a phishing email like this, the only get into one person's computer whoever that person was, who opened the e mail not it they just have access to that one computer from there. They have to try to hop around to other computers in the network once they get in, they used three types of malware to set. Up for the next part, an awesome way, one of them created the back door into Bangladesh Bank another of them create the encrypted channels so that you can pull stuff out to that back door without being spotted on the third piece of software is used to scan navigate across the network. So they spend some time mapping out the network of the Bangladesh Bank moving around establishing persistence and learning about how to transfer money around. One of us to do they workout wet Bangladesh banks got his money. So it's not all sitting in Dhaka, the capital buying dash the money that. English buying. A phone incumbency reserve account in. New York at the New York Fed and there's a billion dollars sitting there. So the criminals like that is a billion dollars that would be good if we can get that. In order to transfer money banks system called swift swift is is the international bank transfer system doesn't International Bank. Version of the hot which transfers millions billions of dollars around the world. So swift is a network used to send payment orders between banks. There are over eleven, thousand members, financial institutions in over two hundred countries around the world who used swift to send payment orders to each other. So anyway, these realize okay to transfer. Billion Dollars Out. Of The New York Fed, we're going to have to get to the swift software and do a series of transfers using swift. That's exactly what they're doing when they get into Bangladesh. Bank. They're trying to navigate their way around the network and find the compute saw the skull swift on it. So they can then manipulate that computer and transfer the money out of New York and out of the nuke account this bank. So the thing about swift is that it's pretty secure. It is secure it has to be because it handling this very sensitive financial communications. It's practically impossible to hack. But as with computers, there is a weakness and one of the biggest weaknesses is human error hackers routed around the Bangladesh Bank network looking for the right computer that can authorize being transfers, and of course, they find it. The computer authorized to make swift transfers BINGO. So instead of trying to hack into the swift system, they got to the human users of the computer terminals that ran swift, and they watched how users interacted with it, and they learned how to impersonate those human users and then trick the swift network into thinking that they were authorized users making real transaction requests. But I the swift terminal I mean, I don't know about you. If I was confronted with the Swift Terminal I would have no idea where to start I'd probably make some mistakes. It did not take these guys very long at all. To make the transfers to transfer out the money. This makes me think that these hackers are probably already familiar with the swift bank system. Perhaps this was someone who had done work for swift before or someone who hacked into a bank and did some swift transfers already since they knew how to use it right away without having to sit and watch how a typical bank operator does it. Very interesting. So they got that piece sorted, but now they needed to figure out how to hide their tracks to blend in to do this, they obtained bank transfer record and use them to learn what a typical large transfer would look like studied the banks high dollar value transfers. What kind of transactions were the? When were they made into who they used these insights? To plan their theft, they would use transaction that look like the banks typical large transactions to steal their billion dollars without raising suspicions transactions they lined up not only do they know how to swim, but they knew what to type into swift to make the transfers look legit I and they had this almost in advance it was almost like they knew how swift land. With. The right key strokes on this computer, they can move that one billion dollars to another bank account and account owned by the hackers. Behold up even if they now had access and a plan for making the transfer blend in making one giant transferred to themselves, still might not be the best idea using the strategy might have raised a flag somewhere in the system. Transfer like that might require additional authorization or something, and why put all your eggs in one basket if one billion dollar transfer fails then everything fails. So the hackers decided to break up the theft into many smaller transfers is classic money laundering technique. So in May two, thousand, fifteen, five bank accounts were opened in our CBC Bank on Jupiter, Street in Manila capital of the Philippines. Each of these accounts were opened with an initial five hundred dollar deposit. These accounts sat untouched for nearly a year until the weekend of February fifth, two, thousand, sixteen by that point the. Bank robbers had everything set up the launched a successful spearfishing operation on Bangladesh Bank employees which them to get access to the banks computer network and the swift terminals, and they figured out how to impersonate Bangladesh banks credentials on swift, and now they have bank accounts set up around the world waiting to receive the stolen money, and we know about those five accounts in the Philippines and at least one account setup in Shankar. where the other accounts on spy. Efforts have not measure find out but I told wide operation. And now, the ready to roll on February third two, thousand, sixteen, the hackers entered the Bangladesh Bank network one more time it was Thursday the waited for the bank to close at night and as soon as they did they made the keystroke strokes needed to get into the swift terminal seat. The English bank actually has a lot of money in the US Federal Reserve. Bank. So the access to Bangladesh Bank account in the New York Fed Reserve Bank and started making transfers to thirty. Six of the hackers bank accounts all over the world and the thirty six transactions totaled nine hundred and fifty, one million dollars. Now. The timing of this transaction was perfect Thursday night in Bangladesh in Classic Heist Movie Tradition, you know you try and pick up a weekend to your bank Boykin and what you're looking for the long weekend you know by call they weekend public holiday weekend which he? In an already, really well thought out elaborate plan. The timing was a stroke of genius because it meant that not only are the hackers dealing with a long weekend but they're also taking advantage of sweet time zones e. you've got bungalows bank, which is the bank has been hacked into where the money's going to transfer from the got where the actual money is, which is new. York different time zone and if got where the money is going, which is the Philippines which yet another time zone. So what they did was play these three times as though advantage now, besides the time zones being to their advantage in Bangladesh, the weekend starts Thursday night and because this was Thursday night nobody was going to be in on the weekend to see anything suspicious happening. However it's not the weekend in new. York it's Friday in New York. The funds can be transferred properly there. So by that time, lows might works would have gone home. They know they're good a good long weekend weekend two days to to work with. But of course, it's nine thirty six am in New York where the actual money is. So when they start issuing commands transfer out the money in New York, they've got an entire New York working on it knowing that the people in Bangladesh, she might be on its cold most of all to work over the weekend. There's another detail of timing that also helped him out. The attacks started on Thursday February fourth, and on that following Monday February eighth was the Chinese New Year which is a bank holiday in the Philippines, which is where those are CBC bank accounts were sitting. So you've got all of those day. Friday Saturday Sunday and Monday with these three time zones working on edge. So on Friday morning New, York Federal Reserve receives all these swift transaction requests that look like they're coming from the Bangladesh Bank and the new. York Federal Reserve Bank precedes to process the transactions. Money starts being sent to the hackers bank accounts one by one millions here millions they're. One of the transactions is for twenty million dollars to one of the hackers bank accounts in Sri Lanka twenty million dollars was going to go, which is a huge amount of money for the charity concern going to. So The New York Fed Reserve approved the request and the twenty million dollar starts making its way to the intermediary banks which happens to be in Germany, but it gets stopped there because of a pretty basic human error. The money was trying to be set to the show, LICO? Foundation but the transfer request spelled as Shalita fundation he was missing an O. And when I looked at this transfer, it ring some alarm bells. So the Bank of flagged it back to Germany that transfer they in turn transferred it back in your consent we think something's wrong with this New York you can imagine had some. Pretty heavy moments looking at these transactions and going shit something's wrong care. So this raises the alarm and the Federal Reserve is now scrambling trying to figure out what's going on they tried calling English bank but it's Friday and Friday is a weekend in Bangladesh so they have trouble getting through but at this point the has done they hacked into the bank sent money to the Newark Federal Reserve and then told the new Federal Reserve to send it to thirty six accounts by Friday at three fifty nine am local time in the Philippines hackers log out of the Bangladesh Bank Swift Network Melwood that they had installed machines began deleting evidence of their crime. But hold up you'd think that the bank's security systems would have some kind of fail safe to protect against this kind of robbery right winter an HP laser jet printer in the cool of the office in Bangladesh Bank, and its job is partly to print out records swift transactions when they're made, and so every day including on Bangladeshi weekends that printer is automatically printing out all the transactions that are coming in. Normally that's not that many maybe a dozen. So the people pronounce are one safeguard and another safeguard is that there's employees who are on duty and it's their job to scrutinize the transactions on these records. On the Friday of the hack that employee was named zoo beer and he was a director of the bank the hackers had for this to now the hackers. One of the small things they did when they did the highest was to realize that if the winter going, it would immediately expose don't to deal with this failsafe. The thieves hacked the printer to make it print blank pages of transaction records. Then they installed malware on the computers running the printer that would delete. Of the messages? So the beer was in the office on Friday but the printer was just printing out blank pages. He assumed it was just some technical glitch and he could deal with it on Saturday. But then on Saturday, there was an even bigger problem when the bank employees tried to log into the swift terminal, they were seeing errors and couldn't log in when they finally were able to log into the system. They saw three messages from the New York Fed Reserve. Asking about the large quantity of payment instructions that they had received over the Bangladeshi weekend, which altogether totaled almost one billion dollars. So at this point on Saturday is a beer was pretty panicked. He tried to call the New York, Federal Reserve, Bank. But of course, it's now Saturday where the banks are closed in the US starts emailing and faxing in requests to the Federal Reserve to stop all transactions and payments for this at some point, the Bangladesh Bank. Also shut down their server in an attempt to stop even more fraudulent transactions from executing, they don't making a series of appeals over contacting. The new Federal Reserve to try and get the money back I never realized this about the in central banking system, but there's a lot of intermediary. So it's not just from the New York Fed that the money goes stripe the Philippines Australia shrank it goes to a number of intermediary banks. So get a sense we kind of sense of panic one bank contacting another and saying, well, hang on what's happened here will we transfer the money to you as the money goal now see multiple different banks to go. So I'm GonNa Pause for quick break here will add up how much money successfully got through stay with us. 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There's some allegations that there might have been an insider at the are CBC Bank to. The timeline is pretty suspicious on February ninth are CBC logs into the Swift system and sees the stop payment messages that Bangladesh has now sent them and yet even after seeing those stop payments that same day the hackers were able to completely empty their bank accounts huge sums of money and once they're withdrawn, that money was programmed disappear. There was a whole system in place to take that money and speed it system so that no one could ever find again. A, large percentage of the eighty, one million dollars went to a single person. From the investigation in the Philippines that thirty million was given to a blow Chinese national. Disappeared and he's never been heard Oregon perhaps his Chinese man was in on it somehow middleman or something, and he required a cut of the money to do his job. Yeah. We don't know what happened to him or as money he just vanished. But that's still fifty million dollars for the rest. So the next part of the plan was for the hackers to make it so that this money couldn't be traced back to the bank heist they needed to come up with a plan to launder fifty million dollars and to do that, they send it directly to casino. Once called the MIDAS casino once called the select senior figures thirty million. And Twenty minutes from. Now. It's not clear how the money got to the casino. But from what I understand when high rollers come into town, they don't stroll in to the front door with a million dollars in a briefcase no link up their bank account the casinos bank account and initiate transfers to the casino that way. So my guess is that on Friday the funds. Were transferred into these bank accounts in the Philippines and then on Monday, those funds were cleared. However, Monday was a Chinese. New Year. So those banks were closed, but my theory was that the hackers had prearranged with the casino to make these huge transfers on Monday. So they were done online or through the casino somehow without having to go into the bank. But. Now that the money was in the casino, they couldn't just grab their money. Go the needed to gamble for a while to not look suspicious the way. Work for you and is we'd go and we'd say, okay, I, want to bet a million dollars this weekend and say, okay, pay million dollars into you know all account number acts and that way when you go, there's there's a record transaction you turn them and say, Hey, I've got a million dollars. In your bank account, I'd like to bet my money now a few Chinese men who working with he's hackers took the money from the highest when into the Casino and requested a junket. junket is a private room for high rollers who can gamble without being bothered. Physically you the Casino I wanNA room for a certain number of gamblers, and we're going to spend ten million dollars here. Most important about this money will point of view is the chips that have issued the casino chips of issues only work in that like blended casino chips you know. They only work in that room. So what that means is if your money law. Page. Fifty million, these casinos you highway up to room. You've got your guys in there to gamble. You know that those chips are only going to be spent and gambled in that room. So you could controllable situation. These guys can't wanted to off somewhere with chips and spend mills where they got to spend him in that room and you can keep an eye on what they're spending. The other important detail about these junk rooms is that they were playing Baca. Rod. Is Interesting because there's only two things to bet on him backyard you better than the blind or the player, and they see that if you keep playing back over a long period of time, odds are pretty good that you'll get about ninety percent of your money back. So the Casino will end up with ten percent of your money after you play for a long. Period of time, which is sort of a safe way to gamble without losing too much. This will allow the hackers to gamble without causing suspicion like they're just cashing out and monitoring money to the hackers sat there in a private junket in the two casinos in the Philippines gambling loop that they just stole just trying to buy enough time to cash out without raising suspicion. Because at this point, everyone involved English bank in New York Federal Reserve are CBC and the law enforcement agencies. They know that eighty one million has been stolen authorities were able to follow the money to the casino which raises the question if we know all this money passed through to casinos to be laundered further casinos responsible at all well as it turns out just days after the bank heist. Asked the Philippines authorities for help and the authorities shut down this fake benefit counts and they knew where the men went with the money and they knew what casinos were in but the country's law enforcement let them play without making any arrests? Casinos. And some possible deniability just sounds crazy in a bunch Chinese guys Ted pet. Tens of billions of dollars. If Your Casino in the Philippines fat happens a lot. So it isn't unfeasible could look this insolvable. Hey. Here's some high rollers in town big spenders. It's worth pointing out that in the Philippines at that time, casinos didn't have good money laundering regulations. So it's possible. That's why these casinos were targeted for this. The rubbers finish their gambling, which was actually money laundering quietly cashed out their chips walked out of the casino and promptly left the country flying to China. In total, the hackers were able to successfully steal eighty one million dollars from the Bangladesh Bank. So, who exactly were these hackers? Well, it turns out he was the North Korean government. North Korea's getting into computer hacking from what the experts in about two thousand nine. There's the creation of the Reconnaissance General Bureau, which he'll pools together all the hacking kind of people into one unit. Security researchers dubbed this North Korean hacking group. The Lazarus Group, which also is known as the Reconnaissance General Bureau or AP Thirty Eight and researchers found traces of Lazarus Group on other attacks to, and it's really interesting to see a nation state getting into the game of bank robberies because nation state hackers don't Rob Banks they never hacked for financial gains by seriously can't. Find any other story of a nation state hack where their goal was to steal money north. Korea seems to be the only one hacking for financial gains, which is so weird but according to Jeff this, actually kind of makes sense from geopolitical standpoint twenty thirteen, the sanctions of passed restricting North Korea from bulk transfers of money, which is a response to. North. Korea launching. Missile tests. The world does not want it to do. That's twenty thirteen. It stopped from getting access to international money two years. Later, Twenty fifteen, they start hacking into English by to the FBI. So you can see if progression was not we can't get any money how we going through that. Let's just Ron Hacker way around that. So that's where Lazarus Group and these bank robberies come in. It wasn't just bangladesh-banked that they targeted Lazarus group has been tied to almost all of the world swift attacks to defeat binks in Ecuador Vietnam Poland India Taiwan, and Russia, have all been hacked and had attempted bank robberies, which can be attributed to hackers within the North Korean government being the main culprits. Hitting Bank after bank attempting to steal millions of dollars. All, in Jeff estimates that the Lazarus Group has tried to steal roughly one point two, billion dollars. But has only ended up with a hundred and twenty, two million. And some say that this eighty one, million dollar bank heist from the Bangladesh Bank was the largest bank robbery in history, and if it is North Korea, that's one point two billion dollars going to a country that's under international financial sanctions. So I've just got enough the ones I've added up they've tried to get one point two, billion they ended up with one hundred and twenty million. So awfully a tenth of what they tried to get is what actually managed to pull out so if Lazarus group has stolen. And Twenty, two million that would be a significant portion of north. Korea's GDP and since it's been so successful I see no reason why they can't continue to do this for years into the future and typically what we've seen is the money is taken to Macau and China, which is where the money went after they cashed out on this casino and from Macau it can then be wired directly into North Korea because North Korea does business with companies in China and so this transaction could easily be hidden. So yeah. In twenty two, million dollars stolen. Looks like North Korea got away with it. But don't just take my word for it. The US Department of Justice investigated this a lot. The FBI wanted to more and spent two years tracking down who hacked the Bangladesh Bank and came to a conclusion in late two, thousand eighteen. The US Department of Justice gave this announcement we have unsealed criminal charges against the North Korean computer programmer. For participating in a conspiracy that conducted sophisticated cyber attacks around the world on behalf of the North Korean government members of conspiracy are responsible for some of the most damaging and most well known cyber intrusions in history including the cyber attack targeting Sony Pictures, and the Cyber Heist of Bangladesh Bank. The criminal complaint unsealed today specifically charges. Park Jin Hook. But the complaint alleges a wide ranging conspiracy and describes in minute detail how we were able to link the North Korean government to these crimes despite the attempts to cover their tracks and despite the North Korean government claims that it was not involved in these crimes. The one, hundred and seventy, two page affidavit. Details evidence. That clearly demonstrates that the North Korean subjects backed by their government were responsible for these crimes. Oh whoa. The same group did the Sony Hack to I'm sure you've heard of this. There was this movie that Sony pictures was producing called the interview a comedy with Seth Rogan and James Franco where they were traveled to North Korea to interview Kim Jong Un this. Would love it if you could take him out. Take out for drinks like. The town. No. Take him out you want us to kill the leader of North Korea. Well, as it turns out, North Korea did not find this funny and hacked into Sony pictures getting access to emails, personal information, unreleased movies, scripts, and salaries. They published all this to wiki leaks, and at the same time demanded that Sony not released the interview, and if that wasn't enough, they were destroying computers inside Sony using a wiper virus, of course this. Sparked a major debate over in Washington DC as President Obama was trying to figure out what to do an enemy nation just attacked an American company. If this had been a connecticut attack like with a bomb or fire, this would certainly be an act of war and some people were urging a bomb to consider this to be the same but someone else said. Go to war every time a company gets hacked. President Obama had this to say we cannot have a society. In which some dictator someplace can start imposing censorship here in the United States, because if somebody is able to intimidate folks out of releasing a satirical movie, imagine what they start doing when they see a documentary that they don't like or news reports, they don't like strangely enough trump who was not president at the time was interviewed on the Wendy Williams show and was asked about this. Here's what he said Look I hear the movie is terrible. If somebody did that to our president whether you love your president or don't love your president if they start talking about assassination and I heard, they did some really vile things. It wasn't just like assassination. The movie was yeah. Really terrible terrible things You know that's pretty bad stuff right? So I can see both sides of it. That's not. I'm not even GonNa comment on that Sony backed out releasing the film, but Washington DC urged them to publish it anyway to send a message that Kim Jong UN cannot suppress free speech whenever he wants. So Sony did a limited release and made the film available directly for download. But yeah, it's fascinating to see the US has enough evidence to blame the same North Korean hacker for the hack. On Sony and the Bangladesh Bank. Heist. The DOJ has an indictment for the hackers arrests, but they'll likely never be caught because there's no way to go into North Korean arrest him in the apparently traveling anywhere anytime soon. But if the guy listed in the indictment were to travel to a country which has an extradition treaty with the US Yuppie I would probably find out and try to arrest them. Jeff being the curious person he is and good journalist decided to go to the North Korean embassy in. England. To get some answers, the embassy is in is in west London. Suburb of west London Cold Ailing and. All the embassies that there's certain areas London where the embassies of based like big posh houses security outside. The Canadian flag waves outside the Canadian embassy and so on North Korea really does look like a like a semi detached house in in Sopa any was actually converted family hounds and so I went on I thought looked I tried to email them I tried to call them. I got no response I I went the embassy to knock on the door. So it's really disappointing. There's a simple electric gate that sits across the driveway two very expensive Mercedes by the way partners driveway. and. So the electric gate is also the remote control of inside the place and the front door of the actual embassy itself is behind that electric gate and it was I won't I'll be honest with you. It wasn't unfeasible could have jumped the gate to get to the front door but I just thought at that point you know you're kind of trespassing on the North Korean embassy I didn't want to end up in the evening standard is Technology Journalists Tasers. Each. I duNNo. I felt down, there was no bail or anything to push. There is no bell there is no bowel accessible on the outside. The Bella would have had to jump the gate and jumping the gate just felt. Steps to. Yeah. So so I sent them a letter by recorded delivery and I got little confirmation back from the post office saying my letter had been received. by Mr Kim. At a particular time, Mr Kim's doesn't go back to me to answer my questions I suspect here back but. I WANNA take a minute to emphasize that this eighty one million dollars was stolen because someone clicked a link on a fishing email. This goes to show that humans are still the weakest link in the network, but the other nine hundred million dollars transfers was stopped because of a human somebody spotted these transactions and was able to take action which protected most of the one billion dollars payload from the hackers. So yeah while humans are the weakest link there also distress link at the same time and a well trained educated employees can do wonders for accompanied by protecting their systems from hackers. In two thousand, eighteen, the Bangladesh Bank brought a lawsuit against our CBC, the Bank in the Philippines where the money was sent to for failing to quickly put a freeze on the fraudulent accounts the alleged there was corruption collusion which allowed the hackers to get away with it, but our CBC responded with. Lawsuit they were saying it was an inside job from the Bangladesh Bank but check this out in January two, thousand, nineteen, the bank manager at RCB was arrested and found guilty of money on ring. She was sentenced to four to seven years in prison, and as it turns out, she was the one who opened the bank accounts that the stolen money was sent you. Now. She handles things related to customer care and I don't know enough about the RCB see policies to know if it's normal for a bank manager to open accounts for customers. So I'm not sure how suspicious this is but so far she's the only one to have been arrested in connection with this bank robbery in the meantime the Lazarus. Group continues to attack the swift banking system in October two thousand. Seventeen hit the Taiwanese Far Eastern International Bank between January and May two, thousand, eighteen they targeted Mexico's Bancomex in May two, thousand, eighteen it was the bank of Chile. You know it used to be going until the governments secret Sullivan Komo groups hats into banks money. You know an activist groups caused chaos. You know to get profile and it's just so strange to me to see a government conducting cyber crime. And just out there stealing wads of money. But there it is plain his day and that just scares me when kind of time and money that governments have suddenly you and a whole different ballgame with those guys getting involved in salvage operations you know we are in a whole different ballgame. That's not to say this suddenly going to be a common thing that governments are going to be turning to international crime sprees to fund their activities North Korea of course, does not follow the norm on many levels but still it's pretty concerning that three years later, even though we know exactly who was behind the Bangladesh Bank Heist, the hackers are still at large and are continuing to attack banks all over the world in developing new attacks. In fact, North Korea is responsible for another huge cyber attack and attack that was so big that cost the world four, billion dollars. But that story is going to have to wait until the next episode. So join me in two weeks. Will you? A big. Thank you to journalist Jeff White for sharing his research and insights with US Jeff has just published a new book. It's called crime. Dot. com from viruses to vote rigging hacking went global and I highly recommend it. Jeff is a great investigator and writer and trust me. This book is right up your alley. There's an affiliate link to crime com in the show notes. So check it out. Jeff also has a pretty good podcast called cybercrime investigations where. He goes super in depth on stories. He investigated I also highly recommend that podcast. 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I remember the players Drew Bledsoe was out there and more variety of players were there that were involved in the just I mean, if you if you, if you went to get a little popcorn, you miss me on on the humvees. So you know. If you went down, we even had your popcorn and you just look down and you look back. I remember you. Well, Mel really know you then. Yeah, it was a blink blink of an eye, but I do. It's interesting. We always laugh when we see that come in for however much it is resilient. How many, how do you how to movie production companies begin to continue to pay residuals to all the people along. All right. Well, done so congrat- you're gonna keep getting those forever. Good question. Mike. You see, all right, let's get back to football, shall we? It's a monster game in Baton Rouge. Of course, Georgia and LSU in at tiger stadium, not at night. Maybe that helps Georgia, but in the afternoon, Ian Fitzsimmons of Freddie and Fitz Simons is there covering that for ESPN radio, and then you're off to Atlanta for the Buchan ears and the one and four, falcons, Ian good to have you with us, man. What is the single biggest. Question that you're looking forward to having answered when Georgia battles LSU today, I'll let them know if anybody remembers the name of the star quarterback that left Jerry Maguire in the hotel room. Melwood Mel, what is it? I know it, you know, what is it the in? I mean, I, I've been quote one scene from you. Look guys. Kush is on the big screen. Again. Hey, I. Who slash I miss what I did radio all the years with Ian does one thing that nobody else does starting. You never done it since we've been working together. You have never talk about. Let's talk pro grid college grid. Oh, man, Ian, does that would lead in progress go procreate or. Right? He. And how many times did you say every I did with you? Twenty years. Maybe we're bringing the one. Now type by junior. College grid. We've got a program. We'll begin today with the college degree holiday. Attack is, hey, we're flipping the script now Miskin you questions they and I, I wanna know from Georgia BULLDOGS standpoint, and I asked Todd, Todd, Todd, mcshay this the other day when I talked to him, how does it play out two, three years down the road which shake from and Justin fields, the two quarterbacks, the Georgia BULLDOGS. I get this one a lot 'cause I had Georgia Mel. I get South Carolina few weeks ago. The heat index about one. Oh, eight. I mean, I was gold bond day. Baby was hot, and that was early in the season and at South Carolina and people don't seem to understand this is Jake from team. Look, Justin feels as remarkable talent when he talked to some of the assistant coaches at Georgia, you know, like I did a pre game, you know, before the South Carolina game that guys at gravitated like their line, Sam Pittman told me even going back to last season seniors gravitated to Jake from he's a natural leader. This is from team feels will. Have his shot, but not this year and only minutes to be next year. They'll use him sparingly every now and then, but this is Jake from team. It's not is there's no quarterback controversy. Heck, there's not even a competition. This is this is all about shake from. That's it. End of conversation completing what seventy, two percent of his passes. They've got not one not two, three running backs averaging at least five yards a carry. Let by Elisa Holyfield is every what over seven yards a carry and they all follow one guy both sides of the ball, and that guy is Jake from. And the reason I asked is because of this listener say, why you asking about Jake from is the guy because Justin feels was the number one player coming out of high school. He's a freshman, then it'll be a sophomore. Then it'll be just so is he gonna wait until his senior year to be the starting quarterback. That's why I wondered we'll always quarterback and if I'm not the guy and I'm going, how long will Justin fields be satisfied being the backup to Jake from? Don't know. I mean, that's question for Justin feels and he knew where he was going. With the moment he signed with Georgia yet. So this is one, you know, I have one coach also tell me this and we're sticking with sticking with movies, right? He says, you know, from has this moxie about him and then he started chuckling going and what are you laughing at coach? He said, you know, you kinda reminds you the movie that bad awful, but great movie varsity blues. When the star quarterback went down with an injury last year mock comes in and leaves the west canyon. Kanai whatever. They read the coyotes, west Kane, and coyotes. You know, to to a division title and arrests was still history. I mean, Jake Jake from is box than don't tell we get whipped with whipped cream bikini there. Is that what I was waiting for you. That's what I was about to saying. You remember that in every other one of us remembers a whipped cream bikini, create Mckee, man. It was whipped cream zucchini Jacob or FOX, and. Or coretec took you. Too long to get there. Up, sorta let you follow everyone right now is remembering that scene, right? Like wow. Oh, yeah. If they don't, they. Yeah, exactly. All righty. And let's get to the NFL real quick. Of course you got Georgia LSU today, but you got Tampa Bay in Atlanta and James Winstons. I start of the season for the buccaneers. What are you most looking forward to in that one on ESPN radio tomorrow? Keep things. One figure trying to see if Atlantic and figure out what the heck is going on. I mean, this is a huge. I mean he's huge game Atlanta, Falcons. They lose their essentially done season's over respect. When you look at that division and then for the Tampa, you just mentioned the name. Jameis Winston, what got are we gonna see? Because as you mentioned, I start since the three game suspension fits got the started went from bits magic. It's tragic, right? What were the Tampa Bay bucks? So I, it's, it's really is that simple can stop and get something fixed. Julio Jones went, what's? What's he going now eleven games without a touchdown man. That's that's got to be easily the long stretch of his career. Can the falcons get whatever the heck is wrong, especially in the red zone 'cause they'll move the ball even going back to last season. They have trouble scoring in the red zone. That's number one. And then is this shame as team because this is coming up on a contract year? Is he there guy in Tampa, two simple questions answered tomorrow like like here today. You know this LSU team guys. I mean, they are. They're playing for their coach. I had him against week one against Miami, and they were all about coach, oh, because not a single one of basil believed that they could win that game. They did. They got number five, then they lose to Florida and the word here around town and as well. He can't be Florida. Here's at can't beat saving those. You told you we wrong. He he's not our guy. He can't get it done. Those. Those players are going to rally around their coach. They watch. It's going to be a hard hit football game here in Baton Rouge today. Actually, that's before we let you go. And if you look at right now from what you predicted in August, but what you've seen with your eyes and college football, who do you believe right now are the four best teams in college? Football Alabama's on a different stratosphere. Just go ahead and set down way up here. Okay. And then there's a drop off bam and I go with Georgia, Clemson, Ohio State. That's right. Oh, Notre Dame was Notre Dame in your thought processes at all. They're right there. At five to me. I know they weren't there. They were completely off the radar and think about this. If a conference gets to teams in and Notre Dame, how quickly going to eight boys as allies with that semi the several power five aren't getting those big old college football, playoff, Jack McMullen, which are almost as big as mel's, Jerry Maguire residual checks by the way. We'll, we'll hear you on the radio, Georgia LSU at Tampa Bay Atlanta. We must say goodbye, but always remember in you had me at Hello. Matteo's my friend. All right. Make sure you're listening tomorrow. Buchan. He is visiting one and four, Atlanta, Falcons. He said it. It's a huge game for Matt, Ryan and company presented. My vivid seats game begins at noon eastern on most of your ESPN radio stations, still ahead straight ahead. You got Chris Eka earlier. He gave you the three college games of the spread in his one NFL pick next up. You get a guy that's hotter than a firecracker right now picking college football game. Scott Spreitzer is seven and two in his last night. He's next with his three college games and NFL pick. You're going out with us good to have you with us to Dr Mel ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects visit. Belinda Collins live on the scene of a recent hailstorm here to describe the events of bro. I was just hanging on the roof. When this gnarly storm starts dropping baseball sized hail. The shingles got beat up a few windows broken. It was savage digit, do anything to help, bro. I was in survival mode, your football. All can't help you in a hailstorm, but the guy go insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage, call gyco to see how affordable homeowners insurance can be, you know, who's red hot mailman our next guest joining us on the shell Pennzoil performance line, Scott sprites or hanging out with us. Now, of course out in Vegas, Dorian Mel ESPN radio always presented by progressive insurance, Scott seven and two in your college picks over the course of the last three weeks. So you're getting three more college games than another game from the NFL as well. But first off, what's the biggest thing that you've noticed that caught your attention trend wise out in Vegas? Well, I tell you what guys, as far as colleges concerned, not the sexiest of cards if you're not a sports better, but the spread does keep it interesting. And I would say that the biggest Joe's versus pros if you wanna talk about that real quick ole miss and Arkansas, where the rebels are laying six and a half to seven point. There's been about fifty six percent of the tickets which is basically the public on ole miss, but seventy three percent of the overall money coming in on the under. Dog Razorbacks and I think the average SEC fan would be a little surprised to see the sharps. Are that big on Arkansas this week, Scott were the public, whereas the public and the sharps in agreement where some liability for the books in terms of games this week. Well, I'll tell you one of the games that they're looking at right now happens to be that Georgia LSU game where they're both binding up, fifty six percent of the tickets and the money on LSU right now, unless you, of course, on the eight and one conference run and most lopsided bed college football side where they're all lining up, seventy seven percent of the public eighty seven percent of the money, Texas AM laying about two and a half it South Carolina, Scott. Let's roll through it. Give us your three college games that you like this week is you try to stay hot. I mentioned seven and to the last three weeks. Well, let's start by taking a field goal with Duke over the Georgia Tech yellow jackets, Duke have that extra week to prepare for the triple option. Not that they haven't faced before in conference play, but it always helps. And and they played well against John tech and recent meetings. And after the pair of horrible run deep inches, the jackets down, have to face a disciplined well-coached up unit that already shut down armies option earlier this season. Now dukes covered four and a roll on the road four, no four in a row in this particular series in my power writings actually have Duke winning this game by a touchdown. So we're taking the points with Duke that I play second play. We're gonna move to the big twelve and taking the points with ion. We stayed on Saturday night over West Virginia, and I tell you what there's no scarier place to stop. If you're a visitor in the big twelve at Ames, Iowa, it seems Jack try stadium. This team, the Iowa State cyclones struggled in their opener against Iowa. They lost that game thirteen to three, but they really represented themselves well ever since they were within seven of Oklahoma with about three minutes to go in the game, came within a field goal on the road at TCU. They hung forty eight in that straight up, went in Stillwater against Oklahoma state guys. I think this right now is the best two and three team in college football in Brock Purdy. He's started buying. Week, he's going to start this week with Kemp being banged up. I think he makes them even better because of his dual threat ability. They come into this on a twenty win six loss. One tie spread conference run or grab the points with the cyclones of that one. And then we're going to finally take Vanderbilt plus the points getting seven over the Florida, Gators listen, Kyle Shurmur has a thirty five to fourteen touchdown to anti ratio going back to the start of last season. He's better than two to one ratio. Again, this season, and he's going up against an offense. That's one dimensional Florida. Ninety ninth in passing yards per game. The ground attack is nothing to write home about even last week in the wind Philippe bay Franks goes just twelve of twenty seven with a touchdown, pick. I like Vanderbilt to cover that spread. Keep this one real close, Vanderbilt plus seven and a half in that game. Scott plus two and a half. I came kicks off. We were giving him three semi threat. You're right, exactly. Two plus three, twelve twenty kickoff there. I was state plus six and a half. So. Seven o'clock tonight at noon, high noon, Vanderbilt plus seven and a half. So three dogs for Scott in college football NFL. Why? Scott, you hit the under on the Browns ravens last week where you go on for your NFL best bet. Well, we're going to finish it up at one more dog guys. I'm gonna take the points whichever available out there right now with the Pittsburgh Steelers here they're getting it together an offense. Three of the last four games they've scored thirty seven thirty and forty one. They've owned this series. They've won six at a row and going back a couple of decades. Now they're on a twenty three and five run on the road in this series. The Steelers come in eight in the NFL in yards per game. Bengals are middle of the pack and most offense of categories. They're actually bottomed third and all important defensive categories. But I use in while Andy, Dalton, seven, a great year as far as completion rate about sixty six percent. He asked her seven picks in five games. I don't think this Bengals team at four and one is for real, and I'm taking the points with the Pittsburgh Steelers that is two points you get. I'm looking. I'm looking at. Various places in Vegas. So Pittsburgh plus two is the NFL pick great stuff, Scott, good luck to you. We'll talk to you next week guys. Thanks for rolling with us as we take up to ten o'clock eastern time. Mel trying to start a fight about how many teams should be in the plan? No, I'm just kidding. It's a conversation that we will get back into and what could come out of any potential. Notre Dame dilemma. This season in the eyes of the playoff committee will dive back into that as well as the biggest games of the day in college football. But we are underway in baseball's league championship series. Of course tonight, game number one, Houston and Boston in the American League. And last night we entered this afternoon game number two l. a. and Milwaukee after the brewers. One game number one held off a furious dodger rally in the ninth inning last night Milwaukee's bullpen. No. And the the interesting strategy that continues to be shown by Craig counsel. The brewers manager who just throws reliever after reliever after reliever after short start, and it worked last night, Tim, Kirk joining us right now, Tim. What's your biggest take? I mean, he used a lot of guys and the dodgers won't have to deal with hater again in game number two, but it was it works for what he's doing. What's your biggest takeaway from the brewers win last night and game one? Well, I think it was how creek council put such a sense of urgency into game. One of a of a seven game series is theory, and I love it. He knows this is the game that Clayton Kershaw starting. This is the game that we might have the hardest time to win. And when he saw a chance to win it, he brought his boss fever the best pitcher on the team out of the bullpen in the fifth inning to go three innings. I mean, that is highly unusual for a manager to do that. But he said, I gotta go and I gotta go now, and I love that is with the dodgers there. So explosive. He looked at a five run, lead four run lead and said, I gotta keep this exactly. Where it is, and the best way to do that is to bring in the really who has more strikeouts by reliever in any season. Since Brad lidge is historic two thousand four season. He held a right where it was, and that's exactly what to do because dodger still came back and almost one and Tim, the pitcher, you mentioned Clayton Kershaw and you think about, you know, Reggie, Jackson mister October, and others were called Mr. may and this and that which is do in the postseason that's which remembered for can you anybody you've talked to Tim, put a finger on what happens with Clayton Kershaw during the postseason, the cause, some of those struggles, what's what's caused that difference and domination to struggles when it most matters? Well, he's been way better lately as you know, but he was not getting last night and of course he got no help dodgers only team and major league postseason history may core errors and to pass balls in one game ever. But his velocity is not what it used to be. The zip on his fastball is not. What it used to be really baseball tonight at one thirty in the morning. Last night at Warno Peres made it abundantly clear. He's not an ace anymore, and that means not even close to being the great Clayton Kershaw for he's using. Oh, so he listens location and pitcher its own runoff from. So before it was impossible to explain how the best pitcher that some people have ever seen could fail in the postseason like he did, but I think there's a reason now he's just not the pitcher he used to be at the same time. This is baseball. This is the beauty of the game is that the best players aren't always the best players of those times. That speaks directly to the degree of difficulty of this game. All right. So before we dive into Houston, Boston, as we chat with Tim coaching here, Dory and Mel ESPN radio and the ESPN app reminder ESPN radio presented by progressive insurance with insurance for cars, home boats, motorcycles, RV's, and commercial vehicles at one eight hundred. Passive and progressive dot com. Now that Milwaukee got the one, nothing lead the rotation shapes out pretty well. Obviously, for LA with re you who's been good bueller, who's been good brains got to him early, but other than the grand slam as silly as that sounds on Sunday, he was pretty effective against Atlanta. And then after that Richhill, how does the series shakeout now knowing the way council used his bullpen in game one. Well, that's a great question. I had the dodgers by eyelash. Fourth series began with the understanding. Never underestimate rules, but the way they're playing the key is what you're talking about here, though die ten, the brewers do what they did last night seven pitchers use. Can they do that for a seven game series or those guys that if the completely pass and they win the game tonight without Josh Hader at all? That's the key question. So you gotta think the dodgers are better set with their rotation? Certainly, they hit the ball out of the ballpark president anyone. So I will stay with the dodgers with the understanding that brewers are not try with that. Would you want twelve games in a row all comes down to you? How can create council mixing monks through an entire series using that bullpen as much as seventy nine Oreo more relief. Any. Than starter innings. Two thousand cardinals more relief. Inning starter innings. Only time team has won a seven game series doing that. The brewers are gonna literate that this ever engaged here. Like it's all started. We have the defending World Series champion. They haven't had one repeat within about eighteen years TIMMY, and then you add the Red Sox were the dominant team in major league baseball during the regular season. The great series begins tonight. Who do you favor, Tim? And why? Well, again, I have the Astros by an eyelash over the Red Sox, but just to show you how committed I am, I picked the Red Sox win the World Series before the postseason began. And a week later I changed my mind because the Astros took apart the Indians. So systematically it was ridiculous. So I think the Astros starting pitching is slightly better. I think they're middle relief is likely, and they don't think they can run with with the Red Sox offensively. But man, this is the best the Astros that's foreign about all year with the way the Marlin Gonzales gotta going. It's a really impressive offensive team though, but that is a pick em series also and me. It all comes down to how healthy is Chris sale. What kind of last he we're gonna see tonight and maybe just as important, what is David price gonna do in game two because the Red Sox. Have no chance of beating the Astros without those guys being really good, and by the way, the Astros for what it's worth have a little bit arrest advantage on Boston as well. Tim kurkin with us here. It's funny. You brought up the Oriole. You should have heard last week, Tim, this was this. This was great. 'cause you know Mel, the Orioles when BUSTER only was talking and he said, essentially, it could be six to eight years before the Orioles are relevant. Again, poor Mel, I mean, you should have heard it was so depressed him. He almost even do the show this week after hearing that it was it was pretty pretty upsell have no interest in listening to Mel stop this week. So I'm gotta say not going to be eight years, but it's going ten today. Along. A while in my life in my lifetime him, I got to see the Oreos via the post season again. Now you have to look at it like, this is what the cubs it is. What the Astros did this with teams do they get really bad before they get good? The Orioles took they're really bad. An extra snack. This year was unnecessary to be that bad. The even exceeded going to be bad. Okay. Tim real quick. Before we let you run off mental and I did this hot-listing earlier today, the most must watch players remaining in the playoffs. If you had to pick three of the top of your head, who would they be. All right. Well, Mookie Betts is on the list. Yep. He's gonna win the AL MVP and the way he plays right field is just breathtaking. The Watchout athletic he is to is Jose altuve they only because he's five foot five. He's my height and he is the reigning MVP of the American League. And the way he plays the game is just amazing to me. Outscoring told me last year he's pound for pound the strongest player in the league, and he's one hundred sixty five pounds. And number three. I'm gonna go, Josh hater. Did you guys watch when he came into the game last night? Did you watch that crowd when he struck out all those hitters when he had fifteen swings? If this is in forty six pitch. It reminded me of our Bosque. There's something to it now and I'm telling you my basketball sometimes where the guy really, you know, comes down to make a great dunk. The whole place goes nuts including the team. I think to some small degree, that's what happens with Josh Hader comes in. It just starts blowing people away if fires up everyone, and he's a pretty exciting player to watch giving people eat strikes out these days. Those would be my three with apologies to a bunch of other players in this post-season. I gotta say one of us agreed with you and had hater on the list. Veigh when the list is well, Tim. Oh, yeah, that's that's true. Okay. Then the tiebreaker would be this. Let's see. Who's list you most agree with the won't tell you who had who Machado or yelich, who else? Which one. Oh God, they're both so good. I, I would have to go with yellow. Yes, because of the way swinging the bat. I'll stop is also grants watch. I had to three. I yell at you too, and I had bets at one. Right? That's pretty close to bills list. How about that? Yeah, I had Machado three hater to bets wants, so it's all good. We're, we're watching the same guys. It's no. No. All good, Tim, we appreciate it. Man, always good to have you on them. All right. I loved him. I love going to forget about my out to Impreza yourself for head, and you had just kind of happened that was forgot about what I said. I kinda did into what in one out the other. What was that? You just said, I deal with this every week. Jimmy Clausen amazing. By the way, don't forget the Rhode in the World Series goes right through he SPN radio catch all the postseason action presented by auto zone on ESPN radio, ESPN, radio dot com. And the ESPN app. Now you want to expand again. You just never happy Mel, never satisfied, never satisfied. And guess what? Your stinking fighting Irish might make it happen. We'll get there. It's ESPN, radio ESPN app how you feel in mailman always good. When I hear that. I'm just happy. We get to see West Virginia and a big somewhat big game tonight. Yeah, yeah. Plan, Iowa State names. I was better than the old two and three record. All right. So we're going to get there. We remind you, of course, during male always presented by progressive insurance, I'll guess join us shell Pennzoil performance line. It's been a good fun show. And we got into this debate because I was asking the question about Notre Dame. Let's say Notre Dame runs the table. They should now. That doesn't mean they will, but they should. They should run the table this season and they'll be sitting there undefeated in a conversation with if these teams continue the way they look like they are to us, Alabama, Georgia, Ohio, State, and Clinton in whatever order. They seem to be the four best teams from beginning of the year till now, but say that ends the season that way. And I realized Alabama and Georgia would play in Atlanta and the SEC title game. And so somebody would have a loss. But it wouldn't mean that they wouldn't be deserving of being in the playoff with one loss, especially if that's a close loss. Now you've got the committee having to decide do we like Notre Dame who's undefeated? And they've never been to the playoffs and it makes a great story and they. Got this national following yada, yada, yada, or do we look at them and say, you know what? They're undefeated. They took care of their business, but they're just not like those other four. What do they do at that point? And then you said you take Notre Dame, you do well, it's just, I don't think any. There's going to be a couple of the four that aren't that dominant Clemson, for instance, with that schedule and a freshman quarterback who that's reminds me of Notre Dame. Fair fair. I'm not saying that's fair. But by the same folk, would you would you favor at the end? You're not going to get a big edge either wakes up to say, clemson's gonna play an ACC championship game and and Notre Dame's in the clubhouse. It doesn't have to. But if you go to eight thirty and this is where it go back to last year, would it have been an injustice had Alabama, not been in that four spot and that four spot instead would have been Ohio State which you said that was an injustice Ella Bama should've gone? Yes. All right. But we'll say they didn't say go high of state, Alabama for as good as they were. Okay. And able to national champ wouldn't have made it had the decision been made to go with Ohio State that fifteen. That's Cinderella team. We talked about central Florida. Lashed here. I like having a Cinderella team to claims. They're still claiming we're national champ. Why can't we be national chip? We were undefeated. We beat Auburn in a bowl game. There were team when Cinderella's go to bowl games. They give it one hundred percent team. They're playing sometimes doesn't. So that's skewed a little bit. But for for what they're saying and the way they. Feel they think they're as good as anybody. Why say prove it when the games matter the most in a playoff environment, not in a bowl game that to them is big time and the team that they're playing may not be meaningless, but it's not a big deal. Okay. We snap in numerous times over the years. My thing is five conferences, five champions. Sometimes you have to teams from conference that are deserving. You had the independent, Notre Dame you had to Cinderella's, they it's UCF or whoever it may be that Cinderella story eight allows all of those teams in we're four eliminates a lot of teams. Now you can say, hey, it makes it better because, hey, if you're the fifteen, you have nothing to cry about because you probably lost a game and whatever had you gone into defeat that you would been in. But there's some cases where I can say for an Alabama last year, they lost the game, but at the end they we know they were the best team or right there with Georgia. Even that was a great game could have gone either way, but they would have been out completely in Ohio State would have been in. So I like eight. I think the more the merrier for that on what sixteen I don't want all of that. I think eight. At that point, they're going to worry about the ninth or tenth team, but for four, you worry about that fifteen. That's sixteen and I think eight would be perfect. I would watch the heck out of eight. I would be thoroughly entertained by eight, but I'm not dying to get there. Yeah. But I mean, I I'd live with. Beano cook with say, it's a heck of a lot better than it was. Okay. When you had the two and now you got four and now you, we always wanted eight. At least I always did, and I just look, I just look at the NFL Dari and say playoff to let it team in that say, you lost two games in September when you had all these injuries, and then all of a sudden you put the two losses destroy your chances. Even though you're playing as well as anybody at the end of the year, that eight would allow something like that to happen. A two loss team gets in its playing great. At the end of the year, all of those different circumstances that allow teams that we would be different from what they were to what they are will allow for eight and addition to the team that has that schedules and they don't deserve to be and they didn't play anybody, but they want him to fetal. We'll put them in and let's see if they are, they're going to, they're going to be Panera chest. They're going to be bragging about how good they are, put them in and let them show how good they are. Okay. And if they're not, they'll get beat. So that's why I like the eight for all those different reasons. All those different kinds of teams and kinds of scenarios would allow in for an eight and they're not for a four. I agree. There's another team out there, and you mentioned it's UCF if they're ever going to get a chance or a group of five teams ever going to get a chance to really compete for a national title and not make one up with Disney parades and everything else they're going to have to be an eighteen playoff. Again, I'm not dying for an eighteen playoff. I'm not dying for UCF to be in the playoff. And there's, I mean. It's thinks they can only play or they can play in what power five team wants to deal with you at UCF to get beat, right. Here's their schedule Yukon South Carolina state FAU pit. SMU today go to Memphis, not easy. Then they go to East Carolina temple. They've got navy at home, and then the last two games, Cincinnati in south Florida. Now, those are two teams that are currently ranked. They run the table. They have a case that would be. What twenty five straight wins over two years. I don't. Fourteen playoff yet. No case. Now with the teams we have now, not if we're sitting here making the case that Notre Dame couldn't even get in if they run it. Yeah, but an eight. You couldn't make a case. Okay with eight, you make if you have eight if you have eight. Okay. If you have eight, they had better be in. At that point? Yeah, that's my. That's why I think the intrigue is will allow those teams in because I don't like it when they go to a bowl when they win, they claimed grit, doesn't we know what bowls are for bowls of the elite teams that don't go the final four. It's a let down the bowl game. It's not a big deal for them. It's a huge, let's they're Super Bowl. So they're playing at a different level than their opponent, and it skews the the whole result. When you get into a playoff and everybody's giving me your best shot, then you could say, hey, we really earned it. We are right there. I wanna see that Cinderella in that environment. I did a bow environment, but in an environment of a playoff, and we're never going to ever see that Cinderella in a fourteen play see, runs the table. They're not deserving of being in a four because of the schedule. But in an eight, they would be. Good. I can't wait for the next UCF championship parade. They'd go back to back. Make sure you tune in for college football action today? Georgia battling Ilisu presented by Dr. Pepper coverage begins to thirty eastern on ESPN radio ESPN, radio dot com. And the ESPN app, Georgia LSU Washington, Oregon, Wisconsin, Michigan Mel. We have. We have elimination games in the Pac, twelve and big ten that's central Florida and Memphis. I know best player on the field. It's not going to be necessary. McKenzie. Milton is going to be Henderson the running back. Okay. Who I right now is one of the best running backs in college. Football is Darrel Henderson from the Memphis Tigers. Enjoy your football. My friend, you got about ESPN radio.
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If I'm getting a check once in a while for five dollars, ten dollars, whatever it may be heavy people member did that might Rico was with me for for Jerry Maguire. I remember the players Drew Bledsoe was out there and more variety players were there that were involved in the just if if you want to get a little popcorn, you miss me on on the Hummadi. So you know, you went down even had your popcorn and you just look down and you look back member, you well, Mel really know you then. Yeah, it was a blink blink of an eye, but I do. It's interesting. We always laugh when we see that come in for however much it is resilient. How many, how do you how to movie production companies begin to continue to pay residuals to all the people along. All right. Well done. So congrats. You're gonna keep getting those forever. Good question. Mike. You see, all right, let's get back to football showy. It's a monster game in Baton Rouge. Of course, Georgia and LSU in at tiger stadium, not at night. Maybe that helps Georgia, but in the afternoon, Ian Fitzsimmons of Freddie and Fitz Simmons's. They're covering that for SPN radio, and then you're off to Atlanta for the Buchan ears and the one in four, falcons, Ian, good to have you with us, man. What is the single biggest. Question that you're looking forward to having answered when Georgia battles LSU shoot it. Let the know if anybody remembers the name of star quarterback that left Jerry Maguire in the hotel room. Melwood Mel, what is it? I know it. You know, what is it in. I mean, I been quote one scene from you. Look guys. Kush is on the big screen. Again. Hey, I just. Who slash. What did radio all years with Ian does one thing that nobody else does starting? Never done it since we've been working together. You talk about, let's talk pro grid college grid, Ian. Does that would lead is gonna go pro dread or. Right. And how many times did you say every I did with you? Twenty years. Maybe we're bringing the one. Now. College grid, we got Furger. It begins today with the college holiday. Attack is, hey, we're flipping the script now Minsk and you questions they and I, I wanna know from Georgia BULLDOGS standpoint and Todd mcshay this the other day when I talked to him, how does it play out two, three years down the road with Jake from and Justin fields, the two quarterbacks, the Georgia BULLDOGS. I just wanna locks. I had Georgia Mel could South Carolina weeks ago. The heat index for about one. Oh, I mean, I was a gold bond day. Maybe it was hot and that was early in the season and at the South Carolina and people don't seem understand. This is Jake from team. Look. Justin feels as is remarkable talent. When he talked to somebody assistant coaches at Georgia, you know, like a pre game, you know before the South Carolina game guys at gravitated like they're like, Sam Pittman told me even going back to last season seniors gravitated to Jake from. He's a natural leader. This is from team feels we'll have his shot, but not this year. I don't even need to be next year. They'll use him sparingly every now and then, but this is Jake from team. It's not. There's no quarterback controversy take. There's not even a competition this. This is all about Jake from. That's it into conversation. He's completing what seventy? Two percent of his passes. They've got not one not two, three running backs averaging at least five yards. A carry biologic Holyfield is every know what over seven yards a carry and they all follow one guy both sides of the ball, and that guy is Jake from. And the reason I asked is because of this listener say why? Yes, gonna shake from the guy because Justin feels was a number one player coming out of high school. He's a freshman. It'll be a sophomore. Then it'll be just so he can wait until his senior year to be the starting quarterback. That's why I wondered we'll always quarterbacks. And if I'm not the guy and I'm going, how long will Justin fields be satisfied being the backup to Jake from Dono that's question for Justin feels and you knew where he was going to sign with Georgia. So this is what I have. One coach also tell me this and we're sticking with stick with movies, right? He says, you know, from has this moxie about him and then he started chuckling going, what are you laughing at coach, he says, you know, you can't reminded the movie that's bad. Awful, but great movie varsity blues. When the star quarterback went down with an injury last year mock comes in and leaves the west canyon Qena whatever they the child's, you know, to to a division title and restless football history. I mean, Jake, Jake from is box. Don't we get whipped with whipped cream bikini there? It is. That's what I was waiting for. That's what I was about to saying. You remember that in every other one of us remembers whip cream became creative Akiva cream Keeney Jacob or vox. Or coaching. Took you too long to get there. Up, sorta let you follow everyone right now. Remembering that seeing like, wow, oh yeah, if they don't. And if they don't. And if they don't Ling. Yeah, exactly. All righty. And let's get to the NFL real quick. Of course you've got Georgia LSU today, but you got Tampa Bay in Atlanta and James Winstons. I start of the season for the buccaneers. What are you most looking forward to in that one on ESPN radio tomorrow, things. One, see if Atlantic and figure out what the heck is going on. I mean, this is a huge, huge game, Atlanta, Falcons losers, intially done season's over. That division and then for the Tampa, you just mentioned the name, James Winston. What got are we going to see? Because as you mentioned, I start since the three game suspension obviously fits got started, went from bits magic. It's tragic, right? Tampa Bay bucks. So it's, it's really is that simple can Stockins get something fixed. Julio Jones went, what's what you going eleven games without a touchdown. Mets, that's got to be easily the long stretch of his career. Can the falcons get whatever the heck is wrong, especially in the red zone 'cause they'll move the ball even going back to last season. They have trouble scoring in the red zone. That's number one. And then is this James is team 'cause this is coming up on a contract year. Is he there guy in Tampa, two simple questions answered tomorrow like like here today, you know this LSU team guys. I mean they are. They're playing for their coach. I had him against week one against Miami and they were all about coach, oh, because not a single one of the bay. Believed that they could win that game. They did remember five, then they lose to Florida and the word here around town and as well. He can't be Florida. Here's at can't beat saving told you totally wrong. He he's not our guy. He can't get it done. Those. Those players are going to rally around their coach. They watch it's gonna be a hard hit football game here in Baton Rouge today. Just before we let you go. And if you look at right now from what you predicted in August, but what you've seen with your eyes and college football, who do you believe right now are the four best teams in college? Football Alabama's on a different stratosphere set down we up here. Okay. And then there's a drop off bam and I go with Georgia, Clemson, Ohio, State that's Notre Dame. Notre Dame in your thought processes at all. They're right there at five to me. I know they weren't. They were completely off the radar and think about this. If a conference gets two teams in and Notre Dame, how quickly going to eight boys as is with that. Several power. Five aren't getting those big old college football playoff jets. Big mountain which are almost as big as males, Jerry Maguire residual checks. We'll, we'll hear you on the radio, Georgia LSU at Tampa Bay Atlanta. We must say goodbye, but always remember in you had me at Hello. Matteo's my friend. All right. Make sure you're listening tomorrow buck. He is visiting one and four, Atlanta, Falcons. He said it's a huge game for Matt. Ryan and company presented by vivid seats game begins at noon eastern on most of your ESPN radio stations. Still ahead, straight ahead. You got crisply earlier. He gave you the three college games with the spread in his one NFL pick next up. You get a guy that's hotter than a firecracker right now picking college football game. Scott Spreitzer is seven and two in his last night. He's next with his three college games and NFL pick your hanging out with us. Good to have you with us to Doreen and Mel ESPN radio and the ESPN app. As again, boy, Gavin loved playing football. He lived in briefed it wanted to go when he'd spent hours upon hours, just his touchdown dances at one day while getting by four goals, he realized he was never much good at throwing or running or catching, don't even kicking. Yeah, Kevin's chances of playing football. We're looking like fourth and long very long. But he did here. DIKO could save money on car insurance, so he switched and saved. Then he did kind of touchdown dance, at least he was still good at that. You know, who's red hot mailman our next guest joining us on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Scott sprites are hanging out with us. Now, of course, out in Vegas, Dory, and Mel ESPN. Radio always presented by progressive insurance, Scott seven and two in your college picks over the course of the last three weeks. So you're getting three more college games than another game from the NFL as well. But first off, what's the biggest thing that you've noticed that caught your attention? Trend wise out in Vegas? I tell you what guys, as far as colleges concern, not the sexiest of cards if you're not a sports better, but the spread does keep it interesting. And I would say that the biggest Joe's versus pros if you wanna talk about that real quick ole miss and Arkansas, where the rebels, Elaine, six and a half to seven points. There's been about fifty six percent of the tickets which is basically the public on ole miss, but seventy three percent of the overall money coming in. On the underdog razorback. And I think the average SEC fan would be a little surprised to see the sharps. Are that big on Arkansas this week, Scott worthy, the public, where's the public and the sharps in agreement where some liability for the books in terms of games this week? Well, I'll tell you one of the games that they're looking at right now happens to be that Georgia LSU game where they're both binding up, fifty six percent of the tickets and the money on LSU right now, unless you of course on that eight and one conference run and most lopsided bed college football side where they're all lining up, seventy seven percent of the public eighty seven percent of the money, Texas AM laying about two and a half it South Carolina. Got, let's roll through it. Give us your three college games that you like this week as you try to stay hot. I mentioned seven and to the last three weeks. Well, let's start by taking a field goal with Duke over the Georgia Tech yellow jackets, Duke have that extra week to prepare for the triple option. Not that the faced before in conference play, but it always helps. And they played well against John tech and Reese. And meetings. And after that horrible run deepens is the jackets down, have to face a disciplined well-coached up unit that already shut down armies option earlier this season. Now dukes covered four roll on the road four, no four in a row in this particular series in my power writings actually have Duke winning this game by a touchdown. So taking the points with Duke that I play second play, we're gonna move to the big twelve and taking the points with stayed on Saturday night over West Virginia. And I tell you what there's no scarier place to stop if you're a Bizet or in the big twelve at Ames, Iowa, it seems Jack try stadium. This team, the Iowa State cyclones struggled in their opener against Iowa. They lost that game thirteen to three, but they really represented themselves well ever since they were within seven of Oklahoma with about three minutes to go in the game, came within a field goal on the road at TCU. They hung forty eight in that straight up winning Stillwater against Oklahoma state guys. I think this right now is the best two and three team in college football in Brock Purdy. He's. Started last week. He's going to start this week with kepi and banged up. I think he makes them even better because of his dual threat ability. They come into this on a twenty win six loss. One ties spread conference run or grab the points with the cyclones of that one. And then we're going to finally take Vanderbilt plus the points getting seven over the Florida, Gators listen, Kyle Shurmur has a thirty five to fourteen touchdown to anti ratio going back to the start of last season. He's better than two to one ratio. Again, this season, and he's going up against an offense. That's one dimensional Florida. Ninety ninth in passing yards per game. The ground attack is nothing to write home about even last week in the win Philippi. Franks goes just twelve of twenty seven with a touchdown at a pick. I like Vanderbilt to cover that spread. Keep this one real close, Vanderbilt plus seven and a half in that game. Scott's plus two and a half kicks off. We were giving him three semi three. You're right. Xactly took plus three twelve twenty kickoff there. I was taped plus. Six, seven o'clock tonight and at noon, high noon, Vanderbilt plus seven and a half. So three dogs for Scott in college football NFL. Why? Scott, you hit the under on the Browns ravens last week where you go on for your NFL best bet. Well, we're going to finish it up at one more. Dog is I'm gonna take the points whichever available out there right now with the Pittsburgh Steelers here they're getting it together an offense. Three of the last four games they've scored thirty seven thirty and forty one. They've owned this series. They've won six at a row and going back a couple of decades. Now they're on a twenty three and five run on the road. In this series. The Steelers come in eight in the NFL and yards per game. Bengals are middle of the pack and most offense of categories. They're actually bottom. Third, all important defensive categories. But I use in while Andy, Dalton, seven, a great year as far as completion rate about sixty six percent. He asked thrown southern picks in five games. I don't think this Bengals team at four and one is for real, and I'm taking the points with the Pittsburgh Steelers that is two points you get. I'm looking. I'm looking at various places in Vegas, so Pittsburgh plus two is the NFL pick great stuff, Scott, good luck to you. We'll talk to you next week guys. Thanks for all with us as we take up to ten o'clock eastern time. Mel trying to start a fight about how many teams should be in the plan? No, I'm just kidding. It's a conversation that we will get back into and what could come out of any potential. Notre Dame dilemma. This season in the eyes of the playoff committee will dive back into that as well as the biggest game of the day in college football. But we are underway in baseball's league championship series. Of course tonight, game number one, Houston and Boston in the American League. And last night we earned this afternoon at game number two, LA in Milwaukee after the brewers. One game number one held off a furious dodger rally in the ninth inning last night Milwaukee's bullpen. No. And the the interesting strategy that continues to be shown by Craig counsel. The brewers manager who just throws reliever after reliever after reliever after short start, and it worked last night, Tim, Kirk in joining us right now, Tim. What's your biggest take? He used a lot of guys in the dodgers won't have to deal with her again in game number two, but it was it works for what he's doing. What's your biggest takeaway from the brewers win last night in game one? Well, I think it was how creek council put such a sense of urgency into game. One of a of a seven game series is theory, and I love it. He knows this is the game that Clayton Kershaw starting. This is the game that we might have the hardest time to win. And when he saw a chance to win it, he brought his boss fever the best pitcher on the team out of the bullpen in the fifth inning to go three innings mean that is highly unusual for a manager to do that. But he said, I gotta go and I gotta go now, and I love that is with the dodgers there. So explosive. He looks at a five run lead four run lead and said, I gotta keep this exactly. Where it is, and the best way to do that is to bring in the reliever who has more strikeouts by reliever in any season. Since Brad lidge is historic two thousand four season. He held a right where it was, and that's exactly what to do because down, you're still came back almost one and Tim, the pitcher, you mentioned Clayton Kershaw and you think about Reggie, Jackson mister October, and others were Mr. may in this net which is doing the postseason that's which remembered for can you anybody you've talked to Tim, put a finger on what happens with Clayton Kershaw during the postseason, the cause, some of those struggles, what's what's caused that difference and domination to struggles when it most matters? Well, he's been way better lately as you know, but he was not getting last night and of course he got no health dodgers only team in major league postseason history, make four errors and to pass balls in one game ever. But his eighty is not what it used to be. The zip on his fastball is not. What it used to be really baseball tonight at one thirty in the morning last night and ward. Oh, president abundantly clear. He's an ace anymore. And that means not even close to in the great Clayton Kershaw for years ago. So he listens location and a pitcher its own runoff from. So before it was impossible to explain how the best pitcher that some people have ever seen could fail in the postseason like he did, but I think there's a reason now he's just not the pitcher he used to be at the same time. This is baseball. This is the beauty of the game is that the best players aren't always the best players of times that the reckless to the degree of difficulty of this game. All right. So before we dive into Houston, Boston Emma's, we chat with Tim coaching here. Dorien Mel ESPN radio, and the ESPN app reminder ESPN radio presented by progressive insurance insurance for cars, boats motorcycles, RV's in commercial vehicles at one eight hundred. Aggressive and progressive dot com. Now that Milwaukee's got the one thing lead the rotation shapes out pretty well. Obviously, for LA with real who's been good bueller, who's been good brains got too early, but other than the grand slam as silly as that sounds on Sunday, he was pretty effective against Atlanta. And then after that Richhill, how does the series shakeout now knowing the way council used his bullpen in game one. Well, that's a great question. I had the dodgers eyelash before the series began with the understanding. Never underestimate ruse, but the way they're playing the key is what you're talking about here, though. Dari ten, the brewers do what they did last night seven pitchers use. Can they do that for seventeen series or those guys that you completely gas and they wanna game tonight without Josh hater at all? That's the key question. So you gotta think the dodgers are better set with their rotation? Certainly, they hit the ball out of the ballpark president anyone. So I will stay with the dodgers with the understanding that brewers are not trifle with that. Would you want twelve games at around all comes down to you? How can create now mixing through an entire series using that bullpen as much as seventy nine Ori more relief innings. Started innings, two thousand cardinals more relief. Inning starter inning. Only time team has won a seven game series to that. The brewers are gonna Blida rate that this Evan gates here, like it's all started. We have the defending World Series champion. They haven't had one, repeat what eighteen years, and then you have the Red Sox were the dominant team in Beijing, baseball. During the regular season, the great series begins tonight, who do you favor, Tim? And why? Well, again, I have the Astros by an eyelash over the Red Sox, but just to show you how committed I am, I picked the Red Sox win the World Series before the postseason began and a week later changed my mind because the Astros took apart the Indians. So systematically it was ridiculous. So I think the Astros starting pitching is slightly better. I think they're middle relief. It's likely. When they, I don't think they can run with with the Red Sox offensively. But man, this is the best the after that formed about all year with the way that Marlin Gonzales gotta going. It's a really impressive offensive team though, but that is a pick em series also. And to me, it all comes down to how healthy is Chris sale. What kind of Lassie we're gonna see tonight and maybe just as important, what is David price gonna do in game two because the Red Sox have no chance of beating the Astros without those guys being really good. And by the way, the Astros for what it's worth have a little bit arrest advantage on Boston as well. Tim kurkin with us here. It's funny. You brought up the Oriole. You should have heard last week, Tim, this was this was great. 'cause you know, Mel in the Orioles when BUSTER only was talking, he said, essentially it could be six to eight years before the Orioles are relevant again. Poor Mel. I mean, you should have heard was so depressed him. He almost even do the show this week after hearing that it was it was pretty pretty upset. No interest in listening to Mel stop this week. So I'm going to say not going to be eight years, but it's going tend to. While. In my lifetime him. I got see the Orioles via the post season. Again. You have to look at it like this, let the cubs, it is what the Astros did with teams do they get really bad before they get good, tear Orioles took the really bad, an extra snack. This year was unnecessary to be that. They even exceeded going to be bad. Okay. Tim real quick. Before we let you run off Mellon, I did this hot list earlier today. The most must watch players remaining in the playoffs. If you had to pick three of the top of your head, who would they be. All right. Well, Mookie Betts is on the list. Yep. He's gonna win the ale MVP and the way he plays right field is just breathtaking. The Watchout athletic is to is Jose altuve they only 'cause he's five foot five. He's my height and he is raining MVP of the American League and the way he plays the game is just amazing to me. Outscoring told me last year he's pound for pound the strong player in the league, and he's a hundred and sixty five pounds. And number three, I'm gonna go with Josh hater. Did you guys watch when he came into the game last night? Did you watch that crowd when he struck out all those hitters when he had fifteen, sweetie. This is in forty. Six pitching reminded me of our Bosque. There's something to it now and I'm telling you my basketball. Sometimes the guy really, you know, comes down to make great dunk. The whole place goes nuts, including the team. I think to some small degree, that's what happens with Josh hate or comes in. It just starts blowing people away if fires up everyone, and he's a pretty exciting player to watch giving people strikes out these days. Those would be my three with policies to a bunch of other players in this post-season. I gotta say one of us agreed with you and had hater on the list. If you had to say when the list is well, Tim. That's true. Okay. Then the tiebreaker would be this. Let's see. Who's list you most agree with won't tell you who had who Machado or yelich, who else? Which one. God, they're both so good. I would have to go with yellow. Yes, because of the way swinging the bat. Stop is also picking a lot. I had to three. I had yell at Shitsu and I had bets at one. That's pretty close bills list. How about that? I had Machado three hater to bets want, so it's all good. We're, we're watching the same guys. It's no. All good, Tim, we appreciate it. Man, always good to have you on them. All right. I love him. I love. I like you're gonna forget about my out to Impreza yourself for head and. You had just kind of happened that was forgot about what I said. I kinda did what won out the other. What was that? You just said, I deal with this every week. Shimmy clawson. Beijing, by the way, don't forget the road to the World Series goes right through ESPN, radio catch all the postseason action presented by auto zone on ESPN radio, ESPN, radio dot com. And the ESPN app. Now you want to expand again. You just never have emailed, never satisfied, never satisfied, and guess what? Your stinking fighting Irish might make it happen. We'll get there CSPAN radio ESPN app how you feel in Mel man. Always good. When I hear that. I'm just happy. We get to see West Virginia and a big somewhat big game tonight. Yeah, yeah. Plan. I state names I was better than the old two and three record. All right. So we're gonna get there. We remind you, of course, during male always presented by progressive insurance, all guess, join a shell Pennzoil performance line. It's been a good fun show, and we got into this debate because I was asking the question about noting, let's say, Notre Dame runs the table. They should now. That doesn't mean they will, but they should. They should run the table this season and they'll be sitting there undefeated in conversation with if these teams continue the way they look like they are to us, Alabama, Georgia, Ohio, State, and Clinton in whatever order. They seem to be the four best teams from beginning of the year till now, but say that ends the season that way. And I realize Alabama and Georgia would play in Atlanta and the SEC title game and says, somebody would have a loss. But it wouldn't mean that they wouldn't be deserving of being in the playoff with one loss, especially if that's a close loss. Now you've got the committee having to decide do we like Notre Dame who's undefeated? And they've never been to the playoff, and it makes great story and they. Got this national following yada, yada, yada, or do we look at them and say what? They're undefeated? They took care of their business, but they're just not like those other four. What do they do at that point? And then you said you take Notre Dame, you do well, it's just, I don't think any. There's going to be a couple of the four that aren't that dominant Clemson, for instance, with that schedule and a freshman quarterback who that's reminds me of Notre Dame. Fair fair. I'm not saying that's fair, but by the same. Would you favor at the end? You're not gonna get a big edge. Either wakes up to say, clemson's gonna play an ACC championship game in Notre Dame's in the clubhouse it doesn't have to, but if you go to eight thirty and this is where go back to last year, would it have been an injustice had Alabama, not been in that four spot and that four spot instead would have been Ohio State which you said that was an injustice, Alabama should have gone, yes, but say they didn't say he would have gone Ohio State Alabama for as good as they were okay, and able to national champ wouldn't have made it had the decision been made to go with Ohio State that fifteen. That's Cinderella team. We talked about central Florida. Lashed here. I like having a Cinderella team that claims. There's national champ. Why can't we be national chip? We were undefeated. We beat Auburn in a bowl game. There were team when Cinderella go to bowl games. They give it one hundred percent team. They're playing sometimes doesn't. So that's skewed a little bit, but for their for what they're saying and the way they feel they think there's good as anybody. Why say prove it when the games matter the most playoff environment not in a bowl. Game that to them is big time and the team that they're playing may not be meaningless, but it's not a big deal. Okay. We shouldn't happen numerous times over the years. My thing is five conferences, five champions. Sometimes you have to teams from conference that are deserving the independent, Notre Dame. You had the Cinderella's a, it's UCF or whoever. It may be that Cinderella story eight allows all those teams in we're four eliminates a lot of teams. Now you say, hey, it makes it better because, hey, if you're the fifth team, you have nothing to cry about because you probably lost a game and whatever how'd you on and defeated you would been in. But there's some cases where I say for an Alabama issue, they lost the game, but at the end they we know their best team right there with Georgia. Even that was a great game could have gone either way, but they would have been out completely in Ohio State would have been in. So I like eight, the more the merrier for that on what sixteen. I don't want all that. I think eight at that point. You're gonna worry about the ninth or tenth team, but for four, you worry about that fifteen sixteen I think eight would be. Perfect. I would watch the heck out of eight. I would be thoroughly entertained by eight, but I'm not dying to get there. Yeah. But I mean, I I'd live with. Great. Beano cook would say it's a heck of a lot better than it was. Okay. When you had the two and now you got four and now you, we always wanted eight. At least I always did, and I just look, I just look at the NFL Dory and say playoff to let it team in that say, you lost two games in September when you had all these injuries, and then all of a sudden you put the two losses destroy your chances. Even though you're playing as well as anybody at the end of the year, that eight would allow something like that to happen to loss team gets in his plane. Great. At the end of the year, all those different circumstances that allow teams that we've, I'll be different from what they were to what they are would allow for eight and at this into the team has at schedules and they don't deserve to be and they didn't play anybody, but they want him to put them in. Let's see if they are. They're gonna. They're going to be panir chest. They're going to be bragging about how good they are, put them in and let them show how good they are. Okay. And if they're not, they'll get beat. So that's why I like the eight for all those different reasons. All those different kinds of teams and kinds of scenarios would allow in for eight, and they're not for a four. I agree. There's another team out there, and you mentioned it's UCF if they're ever going to get a chance or a group of five teams ever going to get a chance to really compete for a national title and not make one up with Disney parades and everything else they're going to have to be an eighteen playoff. Again, I'm not dying for an eighteen playoff. I'm not dying for UCF to be in the playoff, and there is thinks they can only play or they can play in what power five team wants to deal with you UCF beat, right. Here's their schedule Yukon South Carolina's state FAU pit SMU today they go to Memphis, not easy. Then they go to East Carolina temple. They've got navy at home, and then the last two games, Cincinnati, and south. Now, those are two teams that are currently ranked. They run the table. They have a case that would be. What twenty five straight wins over two years. I don't four. Fourteen playoff yet. No case. You can't now with the teams we have now, not if we're sitting here making the case that Notre Dame couldn't even get in. Yeah, if they run it. Yeah, but at eight you could make a case, okay with eight you make if you have eight if you have eight. Okay. If you have eight, they had better be in. At that point? Yeah, that's my. That's why I think the intrigue is will allow those teams in because I don't like it when they go to a bowl when they win, they claimed grit because we know what bowls are for bowls of the elite teams that don't go the final four. It's a letdown the bowl game. It's not a big deal for them. It's a huge, it's Super Bowl, so they're playing a different level than their opponent, and it skews the the whole result. When you get into a playoff and everybody's giving your best shot, then you could say, hey, we really earned it. We are right there. I wanna see that Cinderella in that environment, not at a bow environment, but in an environment of a playoff, and we're never going to ever see that Cinderella in a fourteen play runs the table. They're not deserving being in a four because of the schedule, but in an eight, they would be good. I can't wait for the next UCF championship parade. They'd go back to back, make sure you're tuned in for college football action today. Georgia battling illness you presented by Dr. Pepper coverage begins to thirty eastern on ESPN radio ESPN, radio dot. Com and the ESPN app, Georgia LSU Washington, Oregon, Wisconsin, Michigan Mel, we have. We have eliminated games in the Pac, twelve and big ten such a Florida and Memphis. 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229 - 7 Secrets to a Long-Lasting Relationship
"Hi, everyone and welcome back to savvy psychologist, I'm Dr Ellen Hendrickson, and you know, the drill. Al hope you meet life's challenges with evidence based research a sympathetic ear and zero judgment. And as you can probably hear this week. I am getting over a cold. I feel fine. But my voice insists on doing its best impression of a frog. In the meantime, so hang in there with me. And here we go. So today's episode is brought to you by the new podcast fill in the blanks. You know, Dr Phil one of Oprah's most famous friends and frequent collaborators and now you can hear a whole new side of him with his podcast fill in the blanks. That's Phil PH L. So here all new no-holds-barred conversations with celebrities like Vivica, a FOX Kathy Bates and Steve Harvey, plus expert neurosurgeons and lifespan. There's so listen to fill in the blanks on your favorite podcast app, and be sure to subscribe. So this week. Let's talk about how to make a relationship last. 'cause Melwood may have brought you together. But after the clergyman with the speech, impediment instructs you to treasurer your love what next. Well, whether you're married cohabitating or simply in it for the long haul any committed relationship needs a few tools to make it through the years. So this week here are seven. Science back secrets to make your long term relationship. Feel more. Like our Bruno Mars, Mary you flash mob and less like the theme song from married with children. So let's start out with secret number one, which is be your own person. Okay. So before sharing your life with another adult. It's important to have spent some time adulting yourself, you don't have to have your life cross indexed color coded, but it is important to have separated in a healthy way from your family of origin. So if your alarm clock is a phone, call from mom, or you don't get know how to do your own laundry. Invest the time to get your life on solid footing before merging it with another humans. Secret. Number two is be a team. Now. Some problems seem on solvable a fundamental difference in parenting styles in curable, slobby tude or opposite values around money. But the least constructive approach to sticky problems is to blame each other and fight it out. So instead, try and approach called unified detachment unified detachment is a fundamental shift in perspective that joins you and your partner together against the problem. So rather than approaching a problem as you against your crazy unreasonable partner approach the situation as the two of you United against the challenge. So for example, what should we do to save money for the future or how can we work together to fight less secret? Number three is outweighed the negatives with positives. So a classic study out of the university of Washington asked heterosexual newly. Lead couples to discuss a hot button issue in their relationship for fifteen minutes, and the headline making results found that divorce could be predicted from just the first three minutes of the couple's argument and the key. It turned out was the balance of negative and positive interactions. So in their three minute discussion clips spouses in stable relationships, not careening towards divorce predictably display, the less negative affect like contempt. Belligerence anger defensiveness or whining and more positive affect like validation affection and humor. All right. That makes sense. But interestingly for the husband's examining, the entire fifteen minutes of the argument amplified the ability to predict divorce so over the course of the fifteen minutes, husbands in stable, marriages got a little more negative, but they simultaneously stayed positive always making jokes listening and being affectionate. By contrast, husbands in marriages that would eventually end in divorce got increasingly negative and less positive over the fifteen minutes by the end calling their spouse by cute, nickname or validating. Her viewpoint. Went out the window now later the same research lab developed the magic ratio for a healthy relationship for every negative interaction. They advise you need five positive interactions. In other words, stable couples do argue, but that arguing is filled with joking and teasing and listening and love. Secret. Number four be equal a study in the American journal of sociology found that couples it gala -tarian relationships are less likely to divorce than couples where one brings home the bacon and the other cooks it up. So how do you make things more gala -tarian? It's not as simple as splitting up the chores along traditional gender lines. Because a study in the journal marriage and family review differentiated between low control and high control tasks now, low control tasks are named as such because there is little control or choice in the matter. They have to be done more or less continuously like loading and unloading, the dishwasher at specific times like making dinner or on demand. Like changing a diaper, high control tasks by contrast can be done when it's convenient. And they have a specific beginning and end like mowing the lawn or doing a home repair. So traditionally low control tasks have been designated as women's while high control. Tasks have been labelled as men's therefore to increase gala terrorism. Take a page from many same sex relationships and divvy up tasks by interest and value rather than by gender. So for example, the social butterfly takes responsibility for play dates and social events, the foodie makes dinner or does the grocery shopping, and the tasks no one wants, well, you have three options outsource work around because no one has to water plants if you don't have any or divide them up, and even if the dividing ends up falling along gender lines as long as you decided on those assignments together you'll go a long way towards shrinking resent. Now as a PS in families with kids. There's an avalanche of kid related invisible. Labor scheduling play dates, researching pediatricians ordering soccer uniforms and then returning them when they don't fit and in heterosexual relationships this keeping track of. A thousand and one things usually falls to the woman. So how does this get started? Well, it's been argued that it partially starts with maternity leave. It takes time and practice to gain expertise in task. So when mom's are given a leave of absence, but dads are not mom's gained singular expertise during those hundreds of hours with baby. And then that gap never gets closed. The solution paternal leave. Indeed Pew Research survey found that sixty nine percent of Americans believe fathers should receive paid parental leave which would help level the playing field. So if your job offers, parental leave not just maternity leave take full advantage. And if it doesn't do your best to divide up kid tasks evenly from day one. Annalong gourmet cookware can bring your inspiration to life on the dinner table. Whether you're a gourmet cook or bake off where the Baker they've got you covered with everything from expertly crafted cookware bakeware, cast iron stoneware cutlery, tools and gadgets. So you might try the analog advanced collection. It's twice as hard as stainless steel and with nonstick surfaces. It's easy to clean or you could try out the new Vel copper looks collection with a copper based that looks beautiful and functions perfectly whatever collection you choose you can rest easy. Knowing your gourmet cookware will last for years to come all analog products are protected with a lifetime warranty. So I use analog cookware everyday it heats quickly and evenly. Never sticks and clean up. Is shockingly easy. Perfect for everything from quick scrambled eggs to homemade stock that simmers for a couple of days. So shop an-and at Macy's in store, or at least dot com analog. That's an oh L O N designed for creativity in the kitchen. Today's episode is sponsored by blinking. I the only app that condenses thousands of nonfiction books into the best key takeaways and need to know information. So you can read or listen to them in just fifteen minutes their library is massive and constantly growing with titles, including self help business health and history titles. I'm excited to read like the art of happiness by the Dalai Lama or happier at home by Gretchen Rubin plus classics like how to win friends and influence people by Dale Carnegie blinking makes it easy to get the key essentials from book during a short commute, a workout or while cooking or cleaning. So join the eight million people were using it already. For a limited time blinking has a special offer. Just for you. Go to blinking dot com slash savvy to start your free seven-day trial. That's blinking B. L I N K I S T dot com slash savvy to start your seven-day trial linka stop. Com slash savvy. Next secret number five, expect a lot of your partner. But not what they can't give you. So while fairytale expectations are bound to be disappointing. A study in the journal of personality and social psychology found that marriages stay happy with a magic combination of high expectations and partners ability to reach them. So in the study couples were asked about their expectations of their relationship and next they were asked to come into the lab identify point of conflict in their relationship and work towards a solution. And researchers watched each partner argue and noted when they avoided the topic criticized or faulted, the other shirked responsibility made presumptions or were hostile. So by contrast. Researchers also noted when partner stayed on topic and furthered the resolution now when individuals had high expectations of the relationship and. Their partners could deliver that match of expectations and ability made for a happier relationship, but not everyone can rise to meet expectations when individuals had high expectations, but their partners how lousy communication skills or dirty those same high expectations set the couple up for disappointment. So the take home is expect a lot of your partner. But only what they're capable of. Secret number six is lie to yourself a little. So remember when you first fell in love, and you thought your partner was the greatest the cutest, the smartest keep them on that pedestal at least a little a study in the personality and social psychology bulletin found that harboring delusions about your relationship when along with greater satisfaction love and trust as well as less conflict. Furthermore, the stronger your initial illusions, the greater likelihood of your relationship lasting over the years. So even when he gets bald and paunchy or she's sporting a mud mask and granny panties. They'll still be your prince or Princess charming. And finally secret number seven is commit to commitment itself. Making a relationship last is more than committing to another person. It's also committing to the idea of commitment. Couple therapists and training are taught to pay attention to three things in the therapy room, each partner and also the relationship every couple creates their own little culture, and it's vital to note, if it's a culture of love support and compromise or one of criticism, insecurity and power struggles. So seen a partnership as something the two of you build together every day keeps you in the game much more than simply in the relationship as a way to get your individual needs met to sum it all up, the grass is greener where you water it. So ten to yourself tend to each other and tend to that third thing your relationship and watch your garden grow. And may not always be a rose garden. But together, it will be yours. Thank you for making savvy psychologist part of your life. Savvy psychologist is audio engineered by Steve rookie Berg and edited. By Joe musk Lino as always sevi- psychologist is strictly for informational purposes and dozen substitute for mental health care from a licensed professional. Thank you so much for listening, and I'll see you next week for a happier healthier.
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"Today's episode is proudly brought to you by try to cops the double bay dot com. Join up for the free biweekly video newsletter with myself my table, keep you up to date on the moves that are in this crypto market now if you want to learn how to make money with the market goes up or down go to try to call dot com. Now. Vitrey to call crypto show talking business influx. Jane? Everyone and welcome to the to crypto podcast it a great guy. Great start to die in. What am I bay the going into guys there and have a look as we do each day on this one of a Friday morning, first of all well that we have seen a little bit of activity not a great deal but a little bit. But before we get let's have a little chat about the news. Bitcoin needs price gain for bull reversal in March. Well, gonna say a bull Mont confirmed in mats- giving we haven't got too much taunt ahead of us. Top cabin delta Kappa. Mu metrics spotty bitcoin process trimmed reversals what flows in bitcoin. Make a lossing revival unlikely. Let's very interesting Swiss raid Tyler did you take galaxies, launches cryptocurrency pilots? That's great to hear. It will use case for Arlington. Crypto fund buys bought saw secures thirty million dollar commitment. Cryptocurrency exchange weks tied to ransom west game. What is currently nothing? Really this. Swiss watchdog has cryptocurrency Monning fims nineteen million osteo was illegal suggesting Cullinan, new, Android. Melwood targets thirty two cryptocurrency apps and one hundred international banks while it's quite full on to paraphrase time, you cook the exchanges again in the news fake volume on cryptovest exchanges isn't the half of and always had a good chat with Travis in Jolo the bag crypto podcast about this. Exactly. It's Missouri died around or whatever the. Cool. I don't know the name of the top of my head reporting that ninety five percent of crypto volumes in Dade fake excluded. From that list is bonnet cracking and coined base. So it definitely seems to be that there is some issue around that now why would they do this? Is it a Joop us the end user won't possibly we might feel like there's more safety in the bigger shine. So therefore if they make themselves look bigger than perhaps. Yeah. It's worth Wala's going over there. All could it be the listing phase the charging projects to get onto these exchanges? Will I don't know. But there seems to be fairly high cost for listing on many of those projects or Kubi the latte. Anyway, that's not really my world on going to have a look at the markets right now as we say bitcoin is down point three three of percent right now. Look, it's not really done a great deal since we saw that pulp ES to dole the day before really on the four hour time Furniture's holding. Up just holding its ground somewhat console at I ching. I'd love to say hold their push to a new high a high, and and really see full thousand disappeared quite well behind us as it stands right now. Bitcoin against the dollar on coin dice is hovering right around the full thousand dollar mock, look we have fawning some support around four thousand pumping backup above it. Currently sitting out full thousand ten dollars holding that range right now be interesting to see what happens the next twenty four hours a theory against dole sitting at one hundred forty dollars flat down one point two one percent for the session. Ails is up point two seven of a percent around that hundreds are in that photos and thirty three cent mock just holding its ground having a little bit of a poll or little tiny to move right now. Still is once again sitting down one point four percent right around at ten cents seven and look realistically. I'm just having a look at this on the two-day. Hey, there's a nice little bullish candle. There was actually little there is an awesome polish channel they're bright to the upside of that mice Bill more upside there for still based on the jots. Ripples to the thirty one and down one point seven percent still very much within that range little bearish candle there. Luckily to print now on if it was the close small and bearish on the daily not yet done. The law coin is sitting down one point four seven percents sixty one dollars and forty five cents following next. Bitcoin cash holding around that one seventy handle one seventy seventies. The prospect coin cash right now, it's down one point. I five percent on today's trading session. The only only one other market right now within that top ten that is actually up and it is Bon ends on. It's holding up the bullish candle in the cradles. But not the best looking chart just simply because of the divergence there on the daily, but heck I'd love to sit move high it sitting at sixteen dollars and sixty three cents up point one non of the percent Chinese next on my list down to three so two cents point three two point three cents. 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Scandal 26: Abscam
"In the year leading up to the twenty twenty election we're counting down the biggest scandals in American political history. This is number twenty six abscam and if the I sting that ended in the arrests of seven us. Legislators December nineteen seventy-nine South Carolina Congressman John Jenrette and his friend. John stow sat in a townhouse in Washington. Dc considering a bribe across the table from them was anthony. Amoroso aid to shake Yasser Habib. The shake has some minor immigration problems. The kind of difficulties jenrette could easily clear up by introducing tailor-made legislation in exchange. For the congressman's help the shake offered fifty thousand dollars in cash. Jenrette hemmed and hawed for a while before finally admitting he was in trouble in his home state for Tampering. With a grand jury. If that investigation moved forward Jenrette confessed his name on legislation would be worth toilet paper a morose. Oh asked whether Jenrette would make the deal. Provided the South Carolina investigation against him was dropped suddenly. The legislature became enthusiastic. I got larceny in my blood. He chored old. I'd take it in a God damn minute across the table. The SHAKES AIDS. Sat back in his chair stunned. He's gotten exactly what he needed to take down a sitting Congressman Yassir. Habib didn't exist on Morose. So was an undercover. Fbi agent and he'd taped the whole meeting now. Congressman Jenrette was headed for jail. Welcome to political scandals. Apar- cast original. I'm Richard and I'm kate you can find. All EPISODES OF POLITICAL SCANDALS. And all other podcasts originals. For Free On spotify. Or Wherever. You listen to podcasts to stream political scandals for free spotify just open the APP and type political scandals in the search bar at park cast. We're grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network the FBI's Abscam case showed the American public. Exactly how low many elected officials were willing to go money? It put crooked legislators behind bars. Many Americans applauded the bureau for exposing the Conman in Congress but some say abscam was the FBI's retaliation against Congress for investigating federal agents abuse of power defense attorneys accused. The bureau of entrapment legal speak for tricking someone into committing a crime in order to prosecute them and finally the FBI's use of fictitious shakes was criticized for playing up harmful. Stereotypes of Middle Eastern. People will leave it up to you to decide whether the ABSCAM investigation should be celebrated for cleaning out corruption. In Congress or scorned for helping to usher in an era of domestic surveillance and Islamophobia while the F. B. I. May have been calling the shots. Melvin Weinberg was Ab- scams leading man born on December fourth nineteen twenty four. He started scamming in elementary school stealing gold stars from his first Grade Teacher's desk. His father's small glass installation business just covered the Weinberg families. Tiny Bronx apartment. Meanwhile a few blocks away. Some of Mel's friends lived in suburban homes with big grassy. Long's this inequity made him furious. Young Melvyn decided that if life wasn't fair then he wouldn't be either. He was going to become wealthy by Hook or by. Crook yet on December seventh. Nineteen forty one. The attack of Pearl Harbor interrupted. Melvin plan to get rich like so many other young American men. He volunteered for world war. Two he was only seventeen but the naval construction force or CB's accepted him. While serving his country. Mel found time to help himself to. He recalled quote. I learned that just as long as you march into some supply house with a bunch of guys and look like you know what you're doing you can march out with your arms full and nobody's going to ask you a question. The Melvin Weinberg signature was born. Act like you belong there. Sell your story with confidence and you'll get away with just about anything after leaving the military in nineteen forty six at the age of twenty one. Melvin went to work. As an enforcer for the glazers union his job was to break the windows of businesses who hired non union glass installers every night. Mel broke a few windows the next day. He showed up on behalf of his glass company offering to replace them. Mel's scam raked in the cash. So much of it. In fact that he had to find new places to put his money he started buying dry cleaning. Businesses and hamburger shops by the early nineteen seventies. Mel had all the hallmarks of a mid level crook. The gambling habit long nights drinking the friends who borrowed his dry cleaning trucks to pull hijackings still. It wasn't enough. Mel wanted to be rich. Not just comfortable and connected looking for ways to earn more money. He found out about front end loan scams. They were the hot new thing in financial crimes at the time. Here's the basic rundown they pray on anyone in need of alone who often can't qualify through a traditional bank that's the mark in comes the scammer who pretends to represent a foreign bank with money to lend the complicated application process makes the mark trust the scammer who then offers to process their loan application for a fee of course of a couple grand. The funny thing about this scam is sometimes. It worked in favor of the marks. Their initial loan application to the foreign bank would be rejected of course because the bank was fake and had no money but after breaking this bad news melwood reassure the mark that for a little more money they could get certificates of deposit from the Offshore Bank verifying that they had deposited a large sum. The mark could then use that as collateral to get an actual loan from a local bank. The mark got their loan. Mel got his cash and prosecuting. This kind of crime was a low priority. Marks who reported front end scams to the feds were told to try suing in civil court. Should that ever happen well? Mel had great lawyers on Call Front End Scams became. Mel's life's work. He even involved his girlfriend. Evelyn of British expatriate eighteen years. His junior he would call her lady. Evelyn and pretend she was one of Britain's if an ugly little bald guy had a gorgeous British heiress on his arm potential Marx would think he had to be very rich. Didn't tell her she was part of a fraud. Evelyn just thought he liked to see her play. The Role Mel managed to rake in enough money to take his company. London investors international by the Mid Seventies. He was offering loans to businessmen and crime bosses all over the world but while Mel was expanding his wallet the FBI was expanding. Its ability to prosecute these scams after Watergate. The G. Men began to focus on white collar. Crime and in February of Nineteen seventy seven. Mel was indicted by a federal grand jury in Pittsburgh for Wire Fraud Mail fraud and conspiracy the FBI could have just thrown the king of Front End Scams in jail but one supervising agent. John Good had a better idea. Mel was maybe the most gifted con artist the FBI had ever come across. Why put a perfectly good? Fbi informant behind bars. That didn't mean he trusted him. John Good Studied Mel Weinberg like a textbook and he spotted one big weakness the so called lady. Evelyn the FBI got a warrant for her arrest and dangled it in front of Melle. Mel was forced to tell Evelyn about his real occupation and that she too was now implicated as she sobbed. Mel promised her that he'd make things right he did so by calling the FBI and telling them he'd plead guilty if only they'd let lady Evelyn Go. Of course that was exactly what they wanted. The FBI has big plans and a long leash for Mel Weinberg High Listeners. If you still haven't heard my new park has series daily quote. I'm excited to share today's episode with you. It's a quote novelist playwright and activist James Baldwin. If you enjoy this episode make sure to follow daily quote free on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Good morning and welcome to daily quote a podcast original. I'm Kate Leonard. Today's quote from author James Baldwin. He said the price one pays for pursuing any profession or calling is an intimate knowledge of its ugly side. Next will explore how this quote can inspire your day now. Let's explore this quote from James Baldwin. If anyone was familiar with the ugly side of life it was James Baldwin who felt so alienated as a Gay Black Man in Nineteen Forties America. That he moved to France at the age of twenty four but Baldwin didn't give up or quit as a result of the ugliness. He confronted it head on not only in his writing but as an icon an intellectual pillar of the civil rights movement he became one of the most revered and successful authors of his day it takes courage dedication and strength to achieve anything difficult especially in the face of adversity any and every worthwhile pursuit will have an ugly side to the struggle. Cutthroat peers unbreakable glass ceilings systemic favouritism the ugliness of course is relative for each person and endeavor what's essential is to acknowledge not only the ugliness but also how much we can realistically control or change where we stake a claim. And where do we accept the price of admission? No matter how much it costs US emotionally once you accept the ugliness. It can become the motivation and inspiration. One needs to succeed to continue down the path so that more can follow in your footsteps. Furthermore it is the ugly side that allows us to experience the joy and satisfaction of not only pursuing a goal but ultimately achieving it. Daily is a daily podcast. Follow on spotify to make it part of your morning routine and let it inform the rest of your day. Daily quote is a podcast original. If you're listening on spotify you can share this quote with your friends on social by tapping the three dots in the top right corner of the episode. Page scrolling down to share and selecting your sharing option of choice. Remember you can find new paths to positively three hundred sixty five days a year. Follow daily quote free on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. And now back to the story in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven fifty two year old. International con-artist Mel Weinberg made a deal with the FBI. If they let his thirty four year old girlfriend. Evelyn Knight Walk Free. He take a plea deal even if it meant going to jail the FBI or more specifically forty-one-year-old supervising agent. John Good had no intention of letting mel time a clean cut blue eyed bronx native just like mel good was the son of a federal agent. He never even considered another career now with sixteen years of experience under his belt. He was looking to make his name. In nineteen seventies world of high stakes. Financial Crimes was the place to do it. Agent good believed Mel could be highly valuable as an F. B. I. Middleman luring his fellow con artists into various traps with this in mind. Each in good sent two of his men Myron Fuller and Jack McCarthy to negotiate with Mel they told the con man that he and Evelyn could both stay out of prison on the stipulation. That mel deliver other white collar criminals to the FBI. Nell had no choice but to agree but at first he was far from eager to help the way. Mel Soy it agency fuller and McCarthy were bland cops who lacked the creativity of their boss. Agen good they'd be of little help as he tried to snare his fellow scammers. So Mel said about concocting his own traps. Such was the invention of an unseen wealthy Arab businessman that Mel would pretend to represent this was nineteen seventy seven and OPEC the Organization of Petroleum. Exporting Countries was a hot topic in the United States just four years before the nineteen seventy three oil crisis had sent gas prices in the US through the roof anti Arab sentiment in the US spiked and the archetype of the oil-rich shake became a pop. Culture Bogeyman Mel knew how crooks mines worked being one himself. They were always looking for a bigger mark. His imaginary Arab would be a big fish but still a believable won. His targets would bend over backwards for it and then when they slipped up. Melwood hand them to the FBI MEL even provided his own recording apparatus to tape his phone calls with targets lest the FBI accuse him of lying about his conversations. Pretty Soon Mel and his imaginary shake got their first fish. Joe Tokyo a heavy for a front end. Scammer named Fred Pro Mel called Troch Gio about his Arab friend who was looking to make an investment in a criminal enterprise. Troch Yo and fred pro were quick to bite offering to provide mel with samples of counterfeit money. They were printing if his friend liked it. He too could invest in the counterfeiting ring. It only took mel three months to wrap the pro tro by then he'd gathered enough evidence for the FBI to raid pros offices arrest them and put both in prison for years supervising agent. John Good was impressed. Sure Fuller and McCarthy remained Mel's handlers but the supervising agents started sending him leads directly by the end of nineteen seventy seven Mel. Got A little promotion if you will. He was tasked with investigating high-dollar crimes. Like art. Heists another agent. Tom McShane asked for males help. In entrapping a thief peddling stolen paintings worth a million bucks catching the thief was no problem for Mel. He even bargained the price of the paintings. Down to seven hundred. Fifty thousand dollars before arranging deal. The company that had ensured the stolen paintings further surprised Mel with a ten thousand dollar reward worth about forty two thousand dollars today by the next year. Supervising agent good suggested they level up. Mel's operation now. Not only would he be posing as an associate of a fictitious wealthy Arab. They'd use the full might of the FBI to back up his story he could lure in bigger crooks with a more legitimate seeming background story. Mel invented a new shake of fictional millionaire named come beer Abdul Remond and registered a Shell Corporation to match Abdul Enterprises Ltd the FBI got a high ranking bank official involved. Who would vouch for romance wealth and as the icing on the cake the bureau created a real bank account for the shake and deposited? Cool MILLION BUCKS. This new operation was christened. Abscam that was short for our Ab- scam at first when it was brought up immediately that this was offensive. They decided it meant Abdul Scam. This wasn't exactly inoffensive offensive. Either but at least it was the actual name of their front company. Abscam first victim was another art thief. This one proved so dimwitted that when the undercover agent playing shake come beer Abdul Rahman didn't say one word and aerobic during the entire meeting. He didn't even question it the FBI decided Mel was so valuable. He deserved more than just his freedom. As compensation in July of one thousand nine hundred seventy eight mel was placed on the FBI's formal payroll. He only earned twelve thousand dollars a year or less than fifty thousand in today's dollars but they also provided him with office space for a dual limited as well as the use of a private plane and especially equipped van. This welcome news went a long way towards helping mel take pride in his undercover work. It wasn't quite the lifestyle he wants enjoyed but he was having a good time. Anyway Mel moved onto tackling securities huckster. There's many of them running versions of his old scam about fraudulent certificates of deposit. Whenever one of his targets got suspicious Malpensa doubt that soothing voice he used to use on the shopkeepers with broken windows he could make just about anyone believe he had their best interests in mind to keep Mel's cover from being blown. The FBI was careful when arresting his targets. If Mel had to be present they'd rough him up. Like any other scammer. Meanwhile he'd angrily accused the target of having brought a rat to the negotiating table. They'd also pretend to arrest any undercover agents playing the shakes employees if it was done right the arrest e believed that one of his own associates wasn't informant not mel. This formula made perfect sense to all involved. Send the X. Scammer bombers Rinse Repeat to Mel. It was the super bowl of scam. An opportunity to go up against the best in his old business and beat them neither Mel nor the FBI intended for Abscam to target corrupt politicians for his part mel had almost no interest in politics at all. The government was just a bunch of fellow crooks who found illegal scam then in October of Nineteen. Seventy eight KM SMALL-TIME FRAUDSTER. Bill Rosenberg Mel thought at first that Rosenberg wanted to sell the shake. Fraudulent certificates of deposit. But when Rosenberg arrived at Mel's rented office on Long Island he presented the Abdul Limited staff with a series of business proposals. He wasn't trying to sell securities. He was looking for an investor for various shady projects according to him one local politician. The mayor of Camden New Jersey could be bribed in exchange. Camden could provide equipment business licenses and city permits. Abscam had been created to prosecute financial crimes but the FBI wasn't going to ignore a mayor on the take. Not when he was being served up to them like a Christmas Ham with little pivoting could pursue bribery and corruption charges due to a quirk of the city's Gambling Licensing Atlantic city casino builders couldn't finance their projects through US banks so Rosenberg proposed that Abdul provide loans for the construction and wants the casinos were built. They bribed the mayor to ensure they were approved for gambling licenses. On December First Mayor Angelo Keti arrived Abdul. Ltd's Long Island headquarters. He agreed to guarantee the gambling licenses in exchange for four hundred thousand dollars. He told MEL quote. I'll give you Atlantic city without me. You do nothing. The FBI could have put era Keti in handcuffs on the spot but completely of his own accord. The mayor went on to offer to introduce the shake to other corrupt politicians. No reason to arrest just one mayor when you could use him to get every bribe-taker on the eastern seaboard. Finally Mel had found a target truly worthy of his talents as a con man. He continued to build his relationship with mayor. Eric Keti through a series of phone calls and meetings and soon the two were bosom buddies. The mayor even cut bill Rosenberg out of their relationship. Preferring to deal directly with Mel the tables had turned in less than two years at the beginning of Abscam. The bureau had the power to hold prison. Time over. Mel's head now. He had even more leverage than they did without Melanie Operation. They LOSE FAR MORE IMPORTANT ARRESTS. So Mel took a stand in the form. Of demanding new handlers. He was tired of dealing with Asian McCarthy if he wasn't replaced MEL was out agent. Good knew he couldn't replace McCarthy but admitted that he wasn't the best fit for the job so he called up agent. Anthony Marocco born in the bronx like now agent. So was a soothing. Cool-headed type who came bearing good news supervising agent. Good was also giving mellow raise to three thousand dollars per month or about twelve thousand dollars today. Thus a winning team was born. There first task was to nail the mayor. They needed to get him on tape. Taking bribe on January Twenty Ninth Nineteen seventy-nine. They got the shot. A video camera was concealed in a filing cabinet in Abdul Limited headquarters mayor. Eric Keti it on time after suggesting that the shake hire one of his friends. He slipped the two envelopes of cash into his suit. Jacket and departed. It was the first time in American. History unelected official was videotaped taking a bribe. The mayor of Camden was the first politician caught by upscale now he was about to unwittingly helped the FBI snare the second mayor era. Keti had no idea he'd been caught on tape or that. Abdul Limited wasn't an actual criminal organization after all Mel gave him a bribe. A federal sting operation would never have given him real cash or so he thought so eric. Keti was still more than willing to vouch for the imaginary shake to his fellow. Crooked Politicians Mel decided to give our Keti a little push he convinced supervising agent good and the FBI brass to let him throw a party in the mayor's honor using an abandoned Miami Yacht recently seized by the FBI. Surely Eric Hetty couldn't resist inviting his politician cronies to a party celebrating him. Agent goods signed off on the plan and it was decided that an Arabic speaking F. B. I. Agent named Richard Far Heart should portray Emir Yassir Habib at the Party on March Twenty Fourth Nineteen seventy-nine Mel was ready to welcome guests on board. It was a dangerous gambit but if it worked the corrupt mayor would be thrilled with the personal attention from what he believed to be a wealthy oil magnate. The gamble paid off Senator Harrison Arlington Williams. Junior of New Jersey showed up to honor. The mayor of Camden agent. Far Heart turned in a prize winning performance in disguise as a mere. Habib even presenting mayor. Eric Keti with the Ceremonial Saber. Supposedly from his country. It was actually from the flea market. The mayor was moved by the gesture. Soon after the successful party he offered to introduce Mel to thirteen corrupt members of the New Jersey state legislature. He also wrote out a list of federal and state officials that he believed could be bought. Mel decided to push his luck. A little bit and told Eric Kennedy cockamamie story about needing cash to finance some repairs on the yacht. They happen to cost exactly twenty five thousand dollars and he couldn't tell his boss about it because you see the damage was one of his staff's fault and he didn't want them fired. Mayor Eric Keti eagerly returned his twenty five grand to Mel telling him to use it for the boat. Mel smugly returned the cash to the FBI to pay for the party. He was winning in everyone's eyes. Before the spring of one thousand nine hundred seventy nine was over Melwood Hook Senator Williams too as it turned out just like the Mayor. The senator had his own sketchy business proposal or Abdul Limited. That's coming up next and now back to the story in April of nineteen seventy nine fifty four year. Old Conman turned. Fbi informant. Mel Weinberg made contact with New Jersey Senator Harrison Williams. His goal was to get him to accept a bribe from the imaginary shake and Emir Behind. Abdul Limited of fake companies set up by the FBI as with Camden New Jersey mayor. Angelo Eric Keti. Before him Senator Williams was excited to hammer out a business deal with Abdul Limited. He'd been unable to finance it through. Us funders the senator and his business partners wanted to purchase a titanium mine one of the few in the US so they asked the Amir for a one hundred million dollar loan as far as assurances that they pay back the loan. The senators business partners explained that the. Us government was about to use a lot of titanium for military projects like building submarines. With the mine hand they easily pay back their nine figure debt. Senator Williams also implied he influenced the federal government to buy his titanium for their military projects. So not only was. He opened bribes. He was abusing his seat in the Senate on June. Twenty Eighth Mel. Met with the senator again this time. He got him to state his plans. Very plainly on tape quote with great pleasure. I'll talk to the president of the United States about it. It of course being lucrative defense contracts the senator was offering his influence over the president as collateral to get alone abscam had lucked into its first big time Washington politician. There was nothing holding back agent. Good from seeing how many bribetakers he could snare. The whole unit became focused on using each corrupt mark. Lure in the next one in comparison to the FBI's investigations of ordinary criminals. Abscam was a house of cards targets had to be investigated simultaneously if one of the politicians was arrested too soon it would jeopardize their chances with the others. This meant a lot of stalling. Waiting Mel kept promising mayor. Eric Keti that money was coming in any day for his Atlantic City Casinos. Meanwhile on the other line was Senator Williams still expecting his one hundred million dollar loan for the titanium mine every time. One of them got suspicious. Mel was right there to reassure them. Miraculously they kept believing on July. Twenty six nineteen seventy-nine Agent Moreau had an idea for how to catch even more corrupt politicians. He casually to mayor. Eric Hetty that Emir Habib the character from the boat party dressed in a turban and sunglasses was having some immigration trouble during this conversation a morose. Oh was in character. As his abscam persona and Abdul Limited employees the emir's war torn homeland had become unstable. Amoroso said and he hoped to seek asylum in the United States only. He needed some brave politician to help him. Obtain THAT STATUS. Because he didn't technically qualify. Eric Keti Promise to introduce the Abdul Team. To some congressman. Who would do favors as long as someone covered their expenses. Code for a bribe. Of course agent. Amoroso's idea was a gold mine. Once the SPIGOT had been turned on it was hard to turn off Eric. Keti kept coming up with names of congressman who could be bought the FBI scrambled to keep up. They need video evidence of the legislators personally accepting bribes. They also needed to say on tape that they would help the shake and Amir emigrate in exchange for the money. The next move was to rig a hotel suite with video audio recording equipment then on August Twenty Second Nineteen seventy-nine Mel met with Congressman. Michael Joseph Mars a fast talking thirty six year. Old Democrat representing the voters of Philadelphia. Congressman Myers was hoping to meet Habibi person but when he arrived. Mel explained that the emir was delayed due to an emergency in the middle. East Myers knotted sagely and accepted that. Excuse now Ahmir in his role as the Amir's aid and Mayor Eric. Keti were there to meet the congressman. They didn't even have to propose. A bribe Myers. Did it for them? Saying money talks in this business undercover agent. Amoroso handed over a briefcase containing fifty thousand dollars. Congressman Myers took it and literally ran out of the hotel to his car whether his reaction was paranoid or he was simply giddy with money. Loss is anyone's guess. The routine continued with forty-one-year-old Congressman. Raymond lederer another Democrat from Pennsylvania. Just like Myers. He took the briefcase and agreed to introduce legislation. Giving the shake and emir asylum in America. He winked as he told the men in the hotel suite. I'm no Boy Scout. Definitely no boy scout but he was headed for wearing a uniform. This one in an unflattering shade of Orange by late Nineteen seventy-nine the FBI was so pleased with APPs scams results that the bureau brass authorized supervising agent good and his team to use a Washington. Dc Townhouse for future meetings. It was federal property but it status was classified even legislators would know it belonged to the FBI so they wouldn't get suspicious when they were invited there to meet with Abdul Limited Mel loved the new headquarters in Georgetown when of DC's wealthiest neighborhoods living large. A big shot surroundings helped him convinced himself. He was a big shot after all. By this point Abdul Limited had built quite a strong reputation. The operation began calling in other shady political insiders known as Bagman for help lining up meetings. These bag men functioned as scapegoats for elected officials by handling their dirty work. The FBI knew all about bag men and how to counter them. They coached melanoma also to insist on personal meetings with congressman. Once again the playbook was the same hand off the fifty thousand dollars in a briefcase and get the elected official on tape promising to help the emir and shake in return for the cash. The third target came to the house in October of Nineteen seventy-nine congressmen. Frank Thomson a sixty one year old Democrat from New Jersey. He was an experienced politician. And the chair of the House Administration Committee he was also smarter than his predecessors at first he suggested investing the fifty thousand dollars in his district rather than paying it to him directly then when Mellon Agent. Ahmir also pressured him to take the briefcase. He refused to touch it. It wasn't the Thompson was clean. He just had a protocol for avoiding trouble. He wanted the briefcase go to his middleman. Howard CRICHTON Roseau refused to make the hand off to Croydon. Until he had Thomson on tape. He needed a recording. That had the congressman promising to introduce a private immigration bill in exchange for the bribe. It took two meetings and plenty of negotiation between to get him there but finally he folded the cash. Went to CRICHTON but Thomson was caught regardless variations of the same gamut worked on the next few targets to another one of CRICHTON's associates congressman. John Murphy. A fifty three year old Democrat from New York was implicated despite his refusal to personally touch the bribe money. His presence at the meeting alone was plenty of evidence for the FBI then came congressman. John he was a forty three year old South Carolina Democrat best known on Capitol Hill for his across the aisle marriage to Republican researcher Rita Jenrette. It was also John who once said. I've got larceny in my blood. And so he did. Jenrette sent one of his associates. John Stow to collect the bribe. The congressman slipped up though he called Mel to acknowledge receipt and thanked him for the money. The call was taped last to take. The Bait was fifty five year. Old Florida congressman. Richard Kelly the only Republican to fall for Abscam on January eighth nineteen eighty he came to the FBI townhouse with John. Cusack a cold blooded mobster who scared. Even Mel Kelly wanted more than fifty thousand dollars so the men offered him a twenty five thousand dollars down payment on future. Two hundred fifty thousand dollar bribe craftily. Kelly waited until his mob associate was out of the room then stuff the cash in his pockets hiding it meant he might avoid giving the mafia there cut. The congressman was playing a very dangerous game but so was mel. In fact he was getting tired of it. Senator Williams was still hounding him about the titanium mine. It had been months now and there were multiple close calls with legislators who refused to meet with the Abdul Limited group at all if any of them were smart enough to suspect they had been flirting with the FBI rather than a wealthy Amir. Warn their fellows if that happened. Well guys like Congressman Kelly with mob connections might retaliate for being caught in a honey trap the FBI had six congressmen and one senator on tape taking bribes or agreeing to take bribes inbetween. Those big fish. They also caught Eric. Keti three Philadelphia City councilman and an official with the Immigration and Naturalization Service. Trying to go for more seem both greedy and risky supervising agent. John Good agreed. It was time to wind abscam down and reveal the project to the public. He had his team begin preparing indictments on Saturday February second nineteen eighty the FBI arrested all their targets at once. It was a performance worthy of any COP DRAMA ON TV. They knocked on each elected officials door at the exact same time so none of the guilty parties had time to hear the news and flee. It took over one hundred F. B. I. agents to execute the mass arrest which naturally alerted the media. Nbc photographers caught the agents. Serving their warrant. At the home of Senator Williams reporters worked tirelessly to figure out all the arrestees just in time for a list to grace the front page of the Next Day's New York Times Mel. Weinberg had worked off his debt to his country. Many times over he was probably the best value any law enforcement agency ever got for a plea deal at first congress and the Senate closed ranks house leadership including speaker tip. O'neill angrily accused the. Fbi of setting up congressman the targets defense attorneys said the same they believe the FBI had coaxed their clients into taking bribes. They otherwise would never have accepted. But when the trials started congress sang a different tune by the winter of nineteen eighty grand juries returned indictments for bribery and conspiracy charges on all seven of the big fish. And even the five small. Fry Congressman. Michael Myers the first to be indicted was expelled from Congress on October. Second nineteen eighty. The vote was three hundred. Six to thirty making Myers. The first sitting congressmen expelled by the House. Since the civil war he went on to be convicted and sentenced to three years behind bars. This Senate to was all set to expel Senator Williams but he beat them to the punch by resigning. He was later convicted and served two years of a three year sentence. Williams was the first senator in over sixty years to do time following suit Frank Thompson and John. Jenrette also resigned from Congress. Jenrette was also lucky enough to get a sentence of divorce from his wife Rita. Raymond Lederer to resigned while Jon Murphy and Richard. Kelly lost re election campaigns after being indicted prosecutors in these cases scored a remarkable one hundred percent conviction rate. Every politician charged in connection with Abscam was convicted of at least some of the charges against them and they all serve time in prison. That includes Eric. Hetty the Camden Mayor. Who started the ABSCAM Snowball Rolling Downhill? A jury convicted him of bribery. The judge punished him with the heaviest sentence of all six years. Though in the end he only served thirty two months the FBI agents. Along with Melvin. Weinberg became temporary minor celebrities. But none really wanted the publicity. There were no tell all book deals. In fact the most information the country ever got from inside the F. B. I. About Abscam came from the freedom of Information. Act Request in response to that request the FBI revealed an archive of newspaper clippings and letters from the public most of them supportive of Abscam over the years though several lawsuits were filed by convicted public officials accusing the FBI OF ENTRAPMENT. All were unsuccessful but some questions still linger. It's hard not to wonder. We're all those politicians really corrupt all along or was Mel. Just such a good scammer. He managed to corrupt them. Mel Himself was asked this question in one thousand nine hundred eighty one on. Cbs is sixty minutes. He replied with one of his favorite sayings. You can't con an honest man. If that's true Mel's life's work. Proves there might be far fewer honest men in politics than any of us would like to believe. Thanks for listening. We'll be back next week with scandal. Number Twenty five when the nineteen sixty election pitted incumbent vice president Richard Nixon against all American Democrat John F. Kennedy and questions of voting fraud abounded among the many sources. We used in researching this story. We found the book the sting man inside Abscam by Robert W green particularly useful. You can find all episodes of political scandals and all other park cast originals for free on spotify. Not only to spotify already. Have all of your favorite music? But now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream political scandals on spotify just open the APP tap browse and type political scandals in the search bar. We'll see you next time. Political scandals was created by Max Cutler and his apart cast studios original it is executive produced by Max Cutler sound designed by Dick Schroeder with production assistance by Ron Shapiro Carly Madden and Travis Clark. This episode of political scandals was written by yellen a war with writing assistance by Kate. 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04 Harbor Cafe
"Welcome to Santa Cruz and kitchen podcast. I'm Andrea and I'm Mel and we're two friends who like to cruise. WHO's into the kitchens of Santa Cruz restaurants and enjoy some good food and share our experiences with you so we don't actually go into the kitchens just want to be clear we actually stay in the dining signing room? We might peek into the kitchen but we stay in the dining room and eat because we would be no use in the kitchen. Obviously no I have no background experience in restaurants uh-huh and are only agenda. Here is to eat some good food and talk about eating some good food and reporting record and to record this podcast for you purely for fun. Now I'll we'll have to say we. We intend to eat good food sometimes the food. Isn't that great right. How is it that was not the case this week? It was not the cases cases. We we had some great food this week. We did. So where do we go this week. Man We went to harbor cafe on a Tuesday morning and it was the Tuesday before Thanksgiving so it was a little bit different probably probably population wise and it would be. We got there right at eight o'clock because we both work and wanted to get to breakfast early. In the reason we chose have a cafe is I. I probably driven by how the Cafe Thousand Times at least and seeing the lines and going. Oh yeah that looks okay. I'll stop in line and I I I have been living on the other side of the Halbe so my default has never been her cafe so it was good that we chose to yeah. I've never eaten there yet. Yeah I think this is one of the reasons I like to talk to eat at different places. We got a reason to go to the one we drive by all the time so that we got there at eight and there was there was a little freccia ha in the compaq sure. It's even that well. There was one couple who had dined to get in. I write Mel Right eight o'clock in the morning in the morning like this then they. They just like slammed the car into the parking lot and just ran to the doorway park too close to me living heck out so the WEHAVE ABBA cafes set up is they have an big outside Israel which is where you walk in then. They have a dining room if you want to call it. That wooden tables with a bath full by full more. And they're only open 'til two exactly so full by and then they have another room. That has the kitchen. There's also like two or three tables there and you go around the corner on the street front. These two picnic tables right on seventh avenue. I didn't realize that kind of an enclosure of sorts. Exactly made the cool people eat right. We went to call people and it was eight o'clock on a chilling warning so we ate inside. And what did you have for breakfast. I well so let's about the menu before we talk show. I thought the menu was extensive. Yeah so they had a lot of benedict's addicts and then they had a Lotta scrambles a lot of sides. You can get your classic breakfast if you want to have specials that look like every day on Wednesday after we were there. The basic breakfast was only six dollars. Okay and then you could add. Meet France for nine dollars so I thought the menu was excellent and fallen One thing I liked is like one of the sides was Vegetables you could just get a plate of vegetables before so I think if you Vegan you could do the vegetables IOS and potatoes and it would be great so now. Let's talk about what we ate. Melwood you have. I had the Kelly Benny. Because I'm like Benedict's and this one was on a croissant. Instead of an English muffin which made it's so much easier to saw through. Yeah Oh so that it was delicious. It had bacon had avocado. We'll say the Benedict sauce had a cheesy taste as opposed to a purely benedict taste. I guess we'll cheesier the normal but it was good. I mean I definitely finished it and and you said there was something about the croissants what did I say about the almond. Queso Ho. That's true you mentioned which is a little odd did have an. It was kind of a weird taste to go with all that other stuff and I just thought a plain croissant would have been better. But I'll take it. I mean either way it was delicious and they coffee was good and hot so I smacked a little of your potatoes compared potato yeah side so when the potato they were delicious but then they'll call when they got Colin not so much for me. I don't know if you had the same experience I didn't because I just smothered them and catch up beneath them anyway. Well that's right your kitchen. Faint and they were. They were You know cut potatoes. They weren't like Hash browns or fries or anything. They're they're very actually really good so normally get them. I had the I had the Burrito the breakfast Burrito and it was delicious so you know it had eggs and EPA Kado of potatoes no meat because which is what I didn't want anyway. It was delicious Salsa Fresca in it and then it came with Uh uh Salsa Verde on the side so it was really good number. `tatoes didn't need it and I think you took some I did. I took out of it because I was going. It'd be going somewhere else. I didn't want to go somewhere else. Full to the Brim. But I had the rest of it for lunch so we will find our gover- so it was really good now. The coffee is a coffee right. Not My favorite right so for me the coffee with me but you know it's just me. Okay well I enjoyed. Freud was nice and hot and half and half. From what else do you need and the service was great. Service was really good so kappa. We talked about going in eight o'clock. They got served served at eight sixteen. 'cause I looked at my phone. So eight sixteen sixteen minutes is incredible. Your time we're all seated and they were gone by like eight eight forty. Yeah so it's fast service. Now by the time by eight thirty came around all the inside seats were taken right tables and I think I counted like nine hundred eleven inside tables. They were all taken okay and then even one of the outside table right now. Even though it was pretty cold regulars they fishermen they did in one of them was wearing. Look like as Pajama Fan. Yeah so you know slip is Oh flip flops. So the service service was impeccable. Very very fast service. It was great We were out of there by nine. Yeah and by nine forty. I mean by eight forty eight forty five. Seven of those tables were empty so people coming load and notice the eating and leave so we did ask as a sort of normal mall of big Russia aid and he said no because it was Thanksgiving week a lot of kids rat tables have kids a lot of kids out and so you know there was some people who may not normally been. Yeah take a look at his house. But that's the weekday weekends packed. Oh yeah every time I drive by on the weekend. It's packed but you also went back on Friday. So let's let's talk about our review and we'll see that you know let's talk about a painted review rating and then I'll talk about going back. Okay all right so tell me what are review radio or patent rating system is Number one which is fork. This place means we're not going back The second reading would be second helping which which means we'll be going back and we're GonNa try something else on the menu and our highest rating the plate liquor means we will be back to lick plates with friends later on. Yes S. O.. For me this was definitely a lick the plate place so I went Tuesday morning with Mel and I had a friend in town for Thanksgiving and we went on Friday morning. She's like where should we go for breakfast. I'm like I know just so. We got there around ten and we did have to wait and we and they will see people outside. Because it wasn't raining Sony. They were sending people that we wanted inside now. The spot that we got inside we waited ten minutes Max. It was pretty breezy so I was a little uncomfortable. Oh 'cause it was a breeze you know my kidneys so little brace so I had A. I had the POLENTA Bennett. Oh which it is the avocado mcaddo. I think Mushrooms Avocado Benedict. But instead of being on a Muffin. It's on POLENTA squeezed. Even easier to cut through easy to and dull collusion. Very Good Clinton runny or what kind of crusty. This was the crusty one. Okay as the plaintiff and Friday and then put put the poached egg on now. I will have approach eggs. That will never have plane crash live. Have you know you're not GonNa make holidays now. I had a side of instead of the potatoes. I hit the Hash browns our that they were good. That was standard Hash browns. They were delicious. How do they compare to the fresh cut? Potatoes from Tuesday morning I think that choosing one bidder when they were hot. Okay but you know hashbrowns Hash. Browns were good. Yeah not not like Oh my God but differently. Obviously display the place for me as a look the plate because I went back on the same week anti took afraid seventy two hours later the price. They didn't go. Oh Nice phrases in town on Sunday morning. They're like hey where do you want to go for breakfast again. But we win somewhere morale's naming a table after Awkward Tab and I'd give it a plate liquor as well because I love a good breakfast list I'd probably try and get down there on Sunday morning. Maybe when it's warmer out need outside 'cause I like eating outside. Would you be willing to wait. Probably if I knew that going going into it and I know the food's good and the food's worth waiting for row would probably do that okay. Okay Yeah when I went on Friday there was like a family of six to fit one family of saving one family. Live six and they still say they sat outside but pretty fast. Oh yes they could serve as their do. Yeah they do. And let's see. We spent a total of toto so for both of us. Twenty six dollars. So that was Affordable as well it's like twenty six pet- plus it was a temp okay. Yes really I think it was because I think it was about fifteen. Well I just had the BURRITO. which was I think eight bucks okay? So and then coffey. I had the coffee and didn't enjoy the coffee better. I had even had a drink at any. I told them and they were under water. It's not automatic but differently. This was a great one for us. We're good and join US next. We almost so tell us so. It's eighty two. Yeah Eighty two and where is it located it is located. Oh Harbor Cafe is located at five three five seven. Th Avenue Avenue in Santa Cruz down by what is the name ministry down by the harbor. Yes so it's on the entrance to the yellowhammer that operations of the habit and it has its own little CAPAC DOC but most people just back on the street because complex okay so next week. We're not sure where we're going. But we will have a fabulous podcast about it and please join us then thank you.
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Fit Of Spit
"Welcome to another highly questionable football week. This guy's all fired up. That's good hair. What do you like on the show today is you think after his home debut lebrons gonna miss some games with like a migraine, this season, his teammates are a pain, valor poppy. Valor poppy. She read your run to have been suspended longer for spending increase bowls. Phase basketball is trying to get rid of fighting at every turn, whether it's the spending Amari Stottlemyre for going on a court, the racing malice in the palace from all video scrubbed commentary. 'cause the NBA doesn't want you to remember that, but this particular fight not exactly bad for the sport. When you get these personalities involved Rasiah Rondo gets three games for that. At one point, it looked like Carmelo, Anthony hit accidentally spit in the face of his teammate, and that would have been great if all of that had been triggered by Carmelo Anthony's contribution to this. But no, the league look at the video from every angle and Rondo did this in the big stunner is there was an incident involving the rockets and the Lakers and somehow land Stevenson was not involved seriously like LeBron James looks at this and he's like, man. First time we have it incident. It's not even land Stevenson, and it happens to be against possibly my best friend in the league, Chris, Paul, and that's why he walked away with. Poll in his arms and not his own teammates. I think it's wildly fascinating when you look at John Rondo. I wonder what his national reputation is. Do people think of him as an irritant who's kind of mindless or somebody who's very smart and what he goes about doing because I've been gentry says he's the smartest basketball player. He's ever coached that should tell you. John Rondo knows exactly what he's doing. He had that slurred locked and loaded for Bill Kennedy, and if you don't know what I'm talking about, go look that one up and you know, he tried to do this to Chris Paul and get away with the end. If you look at the video, the league had to look so closely to see if it actually happened. And even though they probably have proof that it did could only give them three games despite his history that was a slick move by resign. Rondo is he so right about that range? John Rondo is such a veteran slick Stor that he pulled that off almost without us being able to see what he was doing even with instant replay on, of course, liberal Bush broken. No. It's still broken and the, you know what would have happened if Melwood would have tried to throw a punch, he would have made. See that one coming. Did you. What should the? Yeah, whereas about Blake Bortles and their quarterback position, he likes to call him bottles even though it's Bortles and he was a nightmare who was actually bench yesterday and it makes you wonder is Tom Coughlin someone who was up there thinking to himself. Well, I've won Super Bowls with a quarterback who's just don't Cain them for men pass. I can do this with anyone. I've done it twice with ally manning, therefore, I will take my defense from year to year entrusted, and they've been trying to hide their quarterback for a long time, and now they're bit stuck, and it wouldn't surprise you at all. If the next stop free lamenting is here because that kind of incompetence even aged isn't as bad as this kind of incompetent. What they should have done was what they did, which is sit, Blake, Bortles they should have bought about this earlier going into last season maybe or even at the end of last season where they were so damaged with what their defense was doing and what their offense was kind of doing with Leonard fournette mind you. They don't have right now. They should have thought about this. It should have had the foresight to say at least let me have a good backup and not trade for Cody Kessler for. Seventh rounder. I think the issue here is there's probably no better formula in the NFL for riots in a locker room than a great defense, an incompetent offense. Those personalities on defense are going to say, what are you doing? We're doing our job. We are arguably the best in the league this and you are doing nothing to help us. And that's probably why this defense doesn't look so great anymore. Twenty eight in the league and turnovers and eighteenth and sex. They are way better than that. I remind you by the way, it's not merely that Bortles was still there started this year. When all of us know he's not a very good quarterback. They gave him an extension this off season. They banked on him beyond this year. Well, I know quarterback that they can trade for he sub. He subtitled right now. He has a lot of experience. You know, he's Nathan Peterman. Guy that's available. Tom Brady is next thousand passes are interceptions. He's got a better interception rate still than Nathan Peterman. I'm not making that up a thousand passes. Mike rubble. Make the right decision by going for two variable is his name. That's okay. For one, I like gravel more too. So the titans go and do tighten things over in London, and let's check out the play. At the end of this game, it seems like every coach in this league fears time more than actually losing. And so that's the last play two point conversion instead of going for the time, and I'm not even sure of the math on this, but let's listen to brave explanation. Afterward. I told the team that we made a decision that we're going to be aggressive and early in the drive and that drive started. I thought my mind that if we scored when we scored if there was less than forty seconds, we were gonna go for to win the game. And if there was if it was a minute and thirty, we're gonna kick the extra point and go play defense. So. A lot of faith in our players have been converted third downs and convert in those situations and Marcus D. And everything we need him to do and keeping plays alive. And so. And I can't not going to second guess the call just in workout. I'm all about taking that risk. Dan, I'm all about playing the numbers and say, you know what? Go for the win rally. The troops that will kick start us for the rest of the season. Put man, wasn't this the offense that allowed eleven sacks just the other day of the Baltimore Ravens isn't this the quarterback that you don't really trust as you see? Other quarterbacks just elevate above him very far above him by the way and look at the past that was there. It was valuable. He blew it. He blew this past. He threw it up and behind him, and it was a terrible throw. Even if he was wide open, he wouldn't have gotten that across. I understand trusting your team, but does that offense deserve to be trusted, give the British few more minutes of extra football for free. Why not never mind the math though. Just think of it this way because they got a penalty call. There were yard away. If I tell you you're playing better team than you. Everyone knows sandiego is better than the titans. Here's the game one yard. Can you get one. Yard for the game? No overtime, no. Given the ball back to Philip rivers, ten, you get one yard. I'm going to say that most coaches in the league would say that they have confidence to get that one yard. Most coaches in the league would not have the confidence to buck the trend though, and do that in face all the questions when it feels like you're responsible for the law. That's actually courage that's actually leadership, but I understand why people would take the result just say, you're an idiot. I'm going fused because they are over seven in the less attention that do bunkum version. So you figure they can make it through conversion for. Those numbers and. That they failed the last seven and they can't do it worth bleep. What do you make a very Greek goalie monk on Jenkins sell out. So Philadelphia's going along yesterday, winning the game, winning the game in the fourth quarter football happens in Carolina. Just ends up winning that game and man. What a fun flight that must've been for Eric read to take that victory home when he appeared phrased before the game, just yelling at Malcolm Jenkins. And then afterward he was still a hissing radiator after wanting to fight all of the eagle. He's a solo. The believe Malcolm capitalism, situation co, co-opted the movement that was started by Colin to get his organization funded is cowardly. He sold us up. I understand both perspectives on this. Malcolm Jenkins token untenable unwinnable situation for this league and tried to get millions of dollars for causes and that players coalition that he formed. This guy left that and he risked his career. He was twenty five. One of the best safeties in the league. He was out of the sport with blonde that violence. He risked his career. So I understand why he looks at Malcolm Jenkins and says, man, you betrayed me by taking that money from those owners who were kicking me out of the league. But I also understand Malcolm Jenkins trying to do good things with that money. It was sad to me to see these two guys fight because they're on the same side. Exactly. It sounds like these to sort of have different definitions of progress here. Whereas Malcolm Jenkins is saying, hey, I saw this opportunity to get money for our cause for the NFL to help us out in individual communities. And for whatever reason I'm taking their word that they're going to help us out on this. That is some version of progress, whereas agreed saying, no, we want it all or nothing. Isn't about hush money. This isn't about standing us up off of our knees and settling the NFL's dispute. This is about what it really is. Social injustice. There is no half way fixing this issue. So we go forward with our fight. It's somebody crossing a picket line for too soon. And this is how personal gets when the matter is that important Malcolm Jenkins is fighting for something that resembles peace and every read is fighting for something poor resembles Justice, and you get into these situations where Malcolm Jenkins is doing a lot of big profound things trying to help his God. He's doing ride alongs with police officers. He's trying to change legislation. This is not a man who deserves to be called a sellout. Coming up next highly questionable. About for Hugh Jackson, you know, of those raker that he has, but you you really know what makes it even worse. What's a man he has to leave in Cleveland has to stay in Cleveland after Lowe's lost. After this, you know, if you were leaving out of a plate now you forget about you gotta stay after lost my sauce. They brought to you by Nissan in vacation that excites. And now our fog from Geico motorcycle, it took fifteen minutes to purchase the gas station. Excellent. Eat the gestation exuded. And regret the gestation. Excellent. As you presented numbers to the board. Insult to injury. You could've used those fifteen exited minutes. Does which motorcycle insurance to gyco. Geigo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on motorcycle insurance time for more foot football. Let's over reacted this week's scores overreaction. We leave the league that. With Hugh Jackson Bs Martha takeover plane going from Todd Haley. Okay. The Browns loss yesterday, excruciating fashion. They lose at the end to a fifty nine yard field goal. And after the game, Hugh Jackson walks in, like I've gotten a solution, the man who has led you to one victory in the last two seasons before this one should handle the play calling. Instead of Todd Haley. He's got combustible defensive offense of coordinative. We knew there. We're going to be issues with those strong personalities of Greg Williams and Todd Haley. But I think we all know that the best investment in this sport is a young quarterback future. You have to make sure that everything's right there. And if you Jackson thinks he can reach his quarterback better than Todd Haley does. That's his job to do that to fix that situation, you go, Dan shortchanging, Hugh Jackson. Again, he is responsible for one hundred percent more wins than you given them credit for listen. I know Cleveland Browns fans are saying, hey, we need more Hugh Jackson in our lives. We need him to call the up because everything has been doing so far has been amazing. But just look at this team like is Jarvis Landry that number one receiver he was claiming he was when he left Miami. No. And if you look at the rest of that team, it is a defense oriented team and you've got Baker Mayfield there, which you mentioned you don't wanna ruin. I don't know if this team is any good. I don't know if they just had that one bad game to the chargers and they might even be sort of playoff potential. I just want to see their full potential right now. If that includes Jackson making the calls do, but I have a hard time believing that a guy, Todd, Haley, who's made calls for quality teams like the Pittsburgh Steelers is all of a sudden not knowing what he's doing. I'd go ahead and let Hugh Jackson do the head coaching duties and keep things as maybe it'll turn out. I mean, they've been in every game except one. Ask you this question though. If Tampa Bay joints, a fifty nine yard field goal in Cleveland manages to win that game in overtime. Do you think we're having a conversation about the play calling? That's how fragile this stuff is in the NFL sometimes as long as you win, it doesn't matter, but they didn't win. They lost fifty nine yard field goal from a guy who just missed a forty yard. That's bad luck. You know about Hugh Jackson, you know, raker that he has, but you really know what makes it even worse. What's a man? He has to leave in Cleveland in Cleveland after Lowe's lows. After this, you know if you were leaving out of a plane. You forget about the you gotta stay after laws. You know, whether, you know, I mean, he's bad, never comes out, you know, he smuggled over the place. You know what I mean? That that's real bad. Just mixed up Cleveland, Seattle and LA and just put them all together. I think there was some Detroit in there. Who is better the chief or Iran's the Rams. All right. Can we move onto the next question. I ask you. Your bleeping question. The Rams are better getting more talking about girl and more balanced than no better, and also the rain defeated laws chiefs. Now, where are we. When is Jerry Jones going to Jason GARRETT'S go server. They've played goal now believe we're already they're ugly presents or is the correct one, because and this is the record. Breaking thing that is being broken here on ESPN. There have been two full days of public silence from Jerry Jones. He has sent to left yesterday through a side door after usually giving post game, press conference. That is really weird for an owner to be giving, but he's been doing it for years. And then today he cancelled a radio show that he loves doing because he doesn't want to speak about this particular thing. I would assume. So where are we Jason, Gary, according to Las Vegas is your odds on favourite for three weeks. Now to be the first coach fired in the NFL feels like we're headed. That isn't. It feels like Jerry Jones has been upset with Jason gear for four or five years. Now, he's been on the chopping block. It's a prize. It's a minor miracle that he is still the head coach. He's been complaining about his conservative but approach all the time. And then he says, no, no, it's not. Second guessing. Absolutely. Is the fact that he's not talking now tells me he doesn't want to second guess. And this guy the play calling on that last play is set up for a forty seven yard field goals. Absolutely ridiculous. You gotta time out your back pocket using it doesn't really make any sense what he's doing with a team that at its best is one of those nine ten win teams that maybe makes the playoffs like I don't know what he's holding onto. He's had this job for longer than most people would have been anyway, if you're looking for the handbook on things that need to happen for an owner to fire codes. The first thing that needs to happen is he publicly criticises in the newspapers on the radio and on television, the play calling after law. And then after the next loss, he disappears like some sort of magician throat contraption in the side of the locker room that allows him to escape silently. Those are the two things that need to happen before the third, which is your fine. Finally, question broadcast from the clear Lander hotel, beautiful south beach, Miami. Again, say complicate their relationship with the do question. I see it every day you give us topics events, and we question complicated. It doesn't like me. Do you question what they just inducted the serve the blame for the ravens slows fun game between these two above average teams. And I don't think that there wasn't more surprising thing to happen on Sunday than this guy who had made three hundred consecutive kicks from inside thirty three yards. Never missed an extra point, not high school, not college, not in the pros. Never missed a field goal from this distance. These the surest thing with a foot in the NFL gold shot of gold shot that it would appear from the look on his face. This guy fought, he hit it correctly, and he was surprised as the rest of us words that is the face of a man who has never missed one of those and did it. And the most inopportune of times how unlucky do you have to do you know how many extra point kicks? How many of those, what percentage of those are for game tire or a game winner? I mean, it's gotta be that small, could've missed it at any other time and he missed it there. And we see the last of that again, if I didn't tell you that these people were football players. Reacting to a final and I told you instead, these two human beings had just seen a spaceship land on the field and three different aliens got out of it. Both of these guys. What does that have? Me? Some credit number twenty by twenty show twenty John. Waited jumping gelling. That's right. The difference. Right. Jumping around. Also, he was number twenty nine. My father's I say is very bad. He's real deal and the Bill. Back for twenty twenty actually number twenty nine good closing. Do you question this? Offensive back Scofield since this was the funniest thing from the sports weekend. We go out to be seeing of the Canadian Football League. Now, his confidence is just fine before the play starts looking confidence as he heads toward the line of scrimmage. Let's watch in here. He's saying, I got this. Look at this. I'm fired up. I want some of this. I got my eyes on. You. Bring it, bring it big, got with a ten yard about some like there. There you go. You know, the first time I saw it was on the internet. It was on social media and the camera angle did not even have the receiver in the pictures. So you don't even know he's got a running start and you see a guy that is twice your size at feels like, and he's got a running start and you got this come get it confident you deserve that you deserve that to happen to you. Well, I know. I know they're guy would running on me. Big turnaround, four yards right here. You can't get around. The beginning of these two where lingerie for harrowing see on both lingerie would be the to- for not Halloween, you tell us what to watch on television. We tell you don't do it. ESPN Monday night, football giants, Filkins Novak you, but you've seen the mess Odell Beckham has made with the New York Giants. I can't imagine how giants fans feel about the disruption when you combine it with him, leaving in the first half last week because he was dehydrated. And then this is explanation for why it is that he needs to get these during games of always cramped, just some fill like I'm working harder than I ever have. So. I really don't like water. I'm trying. I really just don't like it. My stomach feeling so slushy like I'm trying to stay hydrated, but. You know, sometimes I just I just gotta get not via is just necessary. That is very odd. I've never heard of an athlete saying something like that is there you intrigue a little bit. I'm kind of confused as to which hurts more water in your stomach or a needle in your arm. But I do relate to jail here just like I related to LeBron when he had cramping issues. I am one of those people I cramp up let this was me and a hospital bed after to flag football games. I also have an fly across country that same day. But yeah, this is the result of cramping. So even though I think you should drink some water totally understand. Is this the only time that he's ever got a shirt on. How about you popular? You tree? Oh, CC very tricky. I'm looking forward to again tonight because they have a quarterback, the giants that I love, how he moved the ball down, feel, you know, I love to see him in peration one yard yarn, three yard Manafort or five yard to yard fumble one yard pick six. Two yard who's the quota for Yar. You didn't know from his description. Did you turnovers. That's all the, we'll have to that. Thank you for Washington one today. We got off easy. 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Encore: The Months Of The Year
"I WANNA add more positively your podcast feed checkout. WBZ kind world stories of extraordinary kindness and compassion new episodes on Tuesdays. Newsday's subscribe now on Apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen produced by the island the WB. You are Boston. I hi can you believe it new years already and here on circle round we are hard at work producing a bunch more episodes for you to enjoy in twenty twenty as we ring in the New Year. Enjoy this favorite soup around episode from season to. We'll be back with a brand new episode. Next as you're listening right now. Do you know what month it is. If so go ahead and say it out loud. There are twelve months in a year right and they line up in a very particular order. January gives way to February February everywhere is replaced by March and March leads into which month. That's right April and on it goes all year long but in today's story we'll hear what happens when a hard working young woman gets to experience the months out of order I'm Rebecca share and welcome to circle round or storytime happens all the time today. Tale is called the months of the year versions of this story have been told in Russia Greece and the Czech Republic. Some really really great people came together to bring you our tail including Joshua Rush and Elsa chain Joshua Rush Stars Andy Mack now in its second season on the Disney channel and if you listen to NPR. Recognize Elsa Chang as the CO host of all things considered so circle round everyone for the months months of the year Anna and her younger brother Otto lived on a farm beside a tall tall mountain. The siblings had just inherited the farm from their mother and father. Anna was heartbroken to lose her parents but she vowed she would take extra special care of offer little brother Otto so day after day month after month season after season Anna worked in addition to cooking and cleaning cleaning in the house. She did chores on the farm in the spring. She plant crops. Take care of the new piglets. Cabs chicks in the summer. She'd We'd the gardens send harvest crops. She'd spend the fall harvesting even more crops and in the winter she'd make sure the animals in the barn were warm dry and fed every now and again auto would help up pulling a weed here collecting egg there but the little boy didn't have the heart to do anything more now that his parents were gone he was simply too sad so anna did everything she could to cheer him up. One frosty January morning as the winter wind raged outside and gathered some eggs and made breakfast here. You go little brother. This warm hearty omelette ought to keep away the winter. Chill Jill auto took one bite and frowned. Thank you Anna. But this doesn't taste like mom and dad used to make their missing something something. Those little round pieces dad used to call ferry bracelets. Anna smiled at the memory of the tiny flavorful green rings. Oh yeah you mean. Chopped chopped up scallions Jess scallions Anna side auto. But it's January are. Herb Garden is buried in a foot of snow. We won't be able to pick scallions until spring arrives in March autos face crumpled Anna was sure he was about to cry. Okay little brother. I'll tell you what you want some scallions. I'll get you scallions. Wait right here. Anna wrapped herself in a shawl jumped into her boots and headed outside with a basket. The air was so cold she could see her breath as she glanced across the snow-covered fields her gaze. He's landed on the Tall Tall Mountain. The snow is optimized knees here on the farm but the mountain is covered covered with trees. Maybe the ground is clear enough over there for something to be. Poking its head through the earth like auto scallions so Anna in a crunched through the snow toward the mountain as she entered the woods. She found that indeed snow was clinging to the trees branches leaving very little on the ground and still it was January so there wasn't a live plant to be seen before long and teeth chattering justice. She was about out to give up and head home. She spotted something flickering through the trees pulling her shawl more tightly around herself and moved toward the the light soon she smelled smoke and heard the splutters POPs and crackles of a fire. She quickened her stride and found herself in a clearing. Being in the middle was a massive bonfire it's orange and yellow flames leaping higher than the trees and sitting around the bonfire. We're winning some very some very young and accounted twelve women total. Hello Hello I hope you don't mind my asking asking but May I please wore myself by your fire. I've been wondering these woods for hours and I'm chilled to the bone. One of the oldest oldest women's smiled. She wore a silver velvet robe and her braided hair was white as snow on either side of her sat to other snowy haired women also also decked out in silver. Of course you may warm yourself. Child Come Com. Join US as Anna settled all down in front of the fire. She felt the sensation return to her stiff fingers. She turned to the old woman and noticed she was sitting higher than everyone else on a throne own made of stone. Thank you so much for this. I wasn't sure how much longer I'd last in those wides. Your very welcome Anna China. You know my name we do. We also know you came to the mountain in this bitter cold to find something. Tell us what is it. Anna smiled sheepishly. Well this might sound wacky. But I'm looking for scallions scallions in January but scallions don't grow until March I. I know I know it was my little brothers idea you see. My parents used to put chopped scallions in our omelettes and auto. He's been so sad since we lost mom and dad. My baby brother is the only family I have left in the world and I'm so grateful to have him. I just can't bear to see him disappointed. The woman on the throne nodded her head Yes there's nothing in the world like family is there For one don't know what I'd do without my sister's here. She gestured around the circle. Anna noticed the twelve of women were sitting in four groups next to the elders and silver were three slightly younger women wearing woollen capes of red and gold. The next extra three women were even younger. They're Silken sundresses blue as the sky the final three war bright green jumpers. They were girls. No older than auto. Suddenly one of the girls turned to the old woman on the throne. Excuse me January. May I say something. Of course March. Hannah was confused. January march. which kind of names were these? Well like you said scallions don't usually grow until I come around so the girl motioned tord January's thrown I place just for a moment. Suddenly Anna understood. These women were the months of the year. That's very generous suggestion march but everyone knows February comes before you do. January nodded at one of the white cared women beside her February. I know you get the short end of the stick being just twenty eight days and all but would you mind nine. DIFF- March jumped ahead of you just for a little while. Say Fifteen minutes. Of course I wouldn't mind and I wouldn't mind at all and we've seen you work hard on that farm of yours. Whatever whatever the month or what ever the season you belong to all of us months and we belong to you much go ahead? The throne is yours as soon as march climbed onto onto the stone. Thrown the bonfire blazed. Even higher trees burst into bud. Birds broke into song and the clearing went from being coated with snow snow covered with Emerald Green scallions. Anna was too stunned to move. Well don't just stand there out. We've got fifteen eighteen minutes so pick those galleons Anna stuffed as many scallions as she could into her basket. I cannot tell you how grateful I am for this. Thank you thank you so much now. That march had melted all the snow and was able to sprint back. COMBS SWIFT as a deer but the moment she reached the door the winds picked up again and the snow fell so thick. It was like somebody tore open. A massive featherbed come here quick. I've brought you your scallions auto came running to the kitchen scallions but I thought you said they wouldn't be ready until March. Where'd you find him? Anna smiled you'll never believe this under under the trees on the mountain. Let's just say I had a little help now. How about some very bracelet omelettes? The next morning animated batch of yogurt using fresh milk from Otto's favorite cow but when she offered her brother a bullet breakfast his eyes filled with tears. Thank you Anna but remember how mom and dad used to put a strawberry on top of our yogurt. The you said it was just like a clown's nose. Anna grinned so they did but little brother. Strawberries are in season until June June. Yes June but I tell you what Cato. Anna turned her eyes toward the mountain. So I'll see what I can do. What do you think will happen? Will Anna find the strawberries. Auto seeks Will find out after a quick break. Welcome back to circle round. I'm Rebecca sheer today. Our story is called the months of the year uh when we left off auto had asked his older sister Anna for strawberries. It was January and strawberries weren't in season until June but just the day before Anna had stumbled upon the twelve months a group of women old and young and they took a liking to her so after auto requested his strawberries and a through on her shawl and boots grabbed a basket and tricked up up the mountain again. The twelve months were gathered around their bonfire with January sitting on the High Stone Thrown Ama- gave a little wave. Hey It's me again kind women. May I please wore myself by fire. January motioned for Anna to to sit down. It's nice to see you again. An but what brings you back. Don't tell me are hunting for something else now. How did you guess strawberries? My little brother wants strawberries strawberries. Anna strawberries can't grow so in the snow. But I understand June. Why don't you take my throne for a little? While one of the women in Sky Blue sundresses jumped to her feet. It would be my honor January. The moment June took the throne the flames. The fire flared higher and once again the snow melted away. Leaves danced in the trees. BUMBLEBEES ZIP through. The air and bright green plants covered for the ground all of them bursting with Red Ripe Strawberries. Okay Anna here are your strawberries. Pick them Fast Anna. Hannah plucked as many strawberries as she could and placed them in her basket. Although I appreciate this so so much thank you thank you all Anna. Anna raced home sweating in the summer sun as soon as she reached the door the sun gave way to clouds and snowed drifted down from the sky off. Oh ooh I've brought you. Your strawberries. Auto came skipping to the kitchen strawberries. Did you find them under the trees on the mountain again get. Anna smiled may be now. How `bout a clown nose and auto were about to dig into their yogurt and strawberries stories? When they heard a knock on the door it was a woman she said she was there aunt? Oh I can't believe my poor. Oh dear brother is gone. I would have gone to the funeral but one thing led to another and I couldn't make it still. I hope I'm not too late to collect my inheritance. Wait a minute. Are Those strawberries in your bowls and such red ripe. Ripe plunged to the woman arched eyebrow at Anna a minute. How did you find strawberries? This miserably frigid rigid time of the year and had never seen this woman before but her heart leapt at the thought of having even more family out there in the world so she told hold the woman everything And did the twelve months. Give you anything else. Just some scallions. That's all I asked for. I mean that's all auto wanted and all I want is for my little brother to be happy. The woman scowled scowled. What an Oppor Tony you wasted you got to meet all twelve months and your cut of asked them for anything anything? crunchy carrots and cucumbers sweet apples and pears treasures like those would bring in a fortune during the winter. You cut a sold them and made a meant. The woman bolted toward the door. I'm going to that clearing clearing on the mountain. And I'm coming back. With a bounty a harvest Cornucopia and auto washed the woman. Hurry toward for the mountain and disappear into the trees. As she walked through the thick dark forest the woman shivered eventually she saw the light flickering through the trees and came upon the clearing where the twelve months sat around their fire without a friendly greeting. Or even please May I. She strode right up to the bonfire plopped down with her back to the twelve months and began rubbing her hands. January spoke up. And who might you be. The woman turned around. Oh I am but a poor wanderer here to get your help. January raised a snow white eyebrow. Oh and what is it. You want poor wanderer well. I was thinking thinking March could give me some scallions and June could offer strawberries. The really read really ripe. I pawns and then July could give me fresh cucumbers and the most tender mushrooms from August. I'm thinking apple's maybe some sweet pairs and from September I duNno ripe walnuts. Maybe as for October I I. Don't you know that summer cannot come before spring and spring cannot come before winter right now. I I am sitting on the throne and I intend to rule here until my time is up the woman claiming to be Anna and autos aunt rolled occur is oh poll as you know what I didn't come here to talk with a white hair like you anyway Eh. Winter isn't good for anything except Snow and frost. I want the summer months. They are the most valuable with all the bounty. They produce they hold the most. Earning Power January frowned. Oh so you want power. I'll show you power January. We've arms immediately. The Sky filled old with clouds. The air filled with snow as the bonfire and all twelve months disappeared. The woman found herself alone in a wild storm. The wind whistled and whipped her ears as she tried. Ride weaving her way out of the forest. Eventually she wound up in a village on the other side of the tree covered mountain and never wandered near the woods again back at the farm and auto state cozy and warm that winter and spring came. Both siblings tend to the chores in summer. Two and fall fall and winter and the Anna never saw the women around the bonfire again every month. She would think of them and thank them for their gifts. For the way March April and May brought the earth back to life for the sun that June July and August sent to warm. Everyone's faces for or the fruits and vegetables ready for picking in September October and November and the sparkling snow ready for playing and sledding in December January and February and after Anna's adventure on the mountain the farm she shared with auto seemed especially charmed when other places were sweltering hot. 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Episode 201 - Securing Remote Workers in the Age of Teleworking with DNS, DHCP and IP address management
"Without Trust Society stagnates economies decline and. File my security media believes through security trust between individuals, organizations and government can be maintained. To this is August, security will great podcast. Welcome to the service. Kirti weekly podcast recording in Sydney and joined by Matt Hannah the by boxes, managing director in Australia, new, Zealand and regional director for the South Pacific and also desperate chick siles engineering manager for Straight Zealand invite blocks as well. Thank you for joining US having Chris. Five blocks We've interviewed before we got back to episode. One five three where we covered daynuss espionage couldn't cite correctly back then, either is actually DNS being odd was the the trick that we had where we talked about the mind. Nine asssistant daynuss infrastructure any action, and we had had the pleasure of Cricket Lubes either from the sites, visiting Australia at the Time Matt and Jessica. Vega delve into securing that remote with bullets that we've all been forced into. During twenty twenty, the Covid nineteen and the challenges that come with that I think we'll start off with you met in terms of what you're observing. I the last quarter of the last few months, as the will, but obviously in this region, the workforce has been shifted to that remote environment. And really did test a lot of enterprise business continuity planning, and it's not so much the disaster recovery. Business Continuity, isn't it? Yeah? I think you're absolutely right there. Khorasan against could be on the show again and. Thanks to having. We do live in interesting times I. think that not just for those in the workforce. But flies faster. We've got children or people who are studying with certainly a having some system strength upon networks upon workspace work environment, which are which are causing great flocks. I think for everybody is putting Tommy rising good point? Business Continuity Planning is is Britain's bus, but the size skyline. We really kind of impacting now. We see the kind of upswing from zoo from. From old variety of video conferencing solutions to really WANNA draw as a as a continuation workforce been quite staggering, but I think that you know one of the things that biggest concern is around his timeless securing you people and Your Business and your intellectual property. While we run the rush to do that, you know, we got some real concerns over enterprise vpn. And how that really has hunt through this covid nonsense? You mentioned the unintended consequences for mode access deployments scale and speed, which is really had an extension increase in focus cuts targeted tax by by by bad axes. We waited. You'll from from your plan. What were you observing in terms of? Not Justice Kyle bills That's because they go together. When you're trying to not just the business as usual, but your adapting the business a little businesses, Bain directly impacted in the having to adapt while sales manager of workforce, challenging to disguise, because it's not an that scale down as well as Skylab. So. What were your observations they? You know absolutely challenging time that as I said the the impact on the business had to be considered I as well as government regulations coming to say up Kennewick from Heim Umass, quick from high, and has taken some enterprise some time to actually achieve that. Yeah I. Look I. Think from point if you. A paramedic security paramount right so in the rushed upscale, and to get to a guess businesses normal scenario, depending upon what businesses we have, and there's been some tragic consequences off of Covid, nineteen and the lack of ability to touch on a main, just obviously recently, a big news Austin, being being virgin, and the Lucy of that in the hotel, industry and and other areas, but specifically I guess for the industries that way touch. The spade rapidness to get people connected a has to some extent, been the detriment all of the security of the organization. And the concern things that we're seeing the conversation we're having is. while that's very important connects hateful. We've seen a massive increases January. For example of sixteen thousand new New Koran related to my answer to registered as an example from them sort of same two thousand two hundred images suspicious, another ninety, three of those being used to serve Melwood. So you know you might say okay. I I M securing my company by providing VPN security skill set with education, but with byod. Multiple devices people are getting in and out of that secure networks a how you really ensuring that you are maintaining the intellectual property security of Your Business and the perimeter around this borderless world. We now live it. A great example would be you know. While we're seeing the impact upon retailers, and then driving I silence to consumers rashy seeing the same thing happening in document markets of an example police discounts on facebook account hacking, which is perverse in the extreme, but. market changes and shifts are affecting everybody so I think that you know one of the key things we need to think about here. Is that you know? While VPN is important. DNS Is the one thing that is really important. and ubiquitous that hackers have really kind of try to take hold-alls. Standards Trusted. And every network device for example which you'd pay sixty three, which is the Protocol Dennis runs on is by default, allowed everywhere, and this is a problem. This is a problem that isn't necessarily being solved that we weren't even necessary safety as your listeners and increased. We've discussed before. Monarch say two hundred hundred sixty dies, says you know this activity reminds dormant inside networks before we say? These things happening. You might good point there as well not only correct at companies might well already be compromised during that detection period now which can take a significant period of time associated with business continuity, planning how much or how many within the plans would be considering the uptight all the tax, and will most response from the sort of the black community to take advantage this, and they will increase that attack, so the the attack vectors, and also the threat landscape, also suddenly China's dive into Jasper at that point in terms of in your role as the engineering role what? Key Abilities met touches on obviously the importance of DNS. From an enterprise perspective, where would they have under ability? Be Sitting in. And what did I do to mitigate that? Yeah, thanks, Chris I think I'll go back to what what Matt has actually said prior on. That is as you live in this new. World where people are working remotely there is obviously a high chance. We've seen it. Absence by are not rising uptaken. phishing attempts and malware and bad actors. Jumping on the bandwagon with this covid nineteen thirteen right? And so as they infected in bring back into the enterprise on. We still contend. That DNS is a very important early indicator of looking at the levels infection, perhaps in particular organization, and so if you can bring that under control. If you can monitor that and use that as early warning system I think that will give it will essentially by time organizations to respond quicker and therefore contain threats that way. When you say that early indicator, maybe just explain the importance of Daynuss in the architecture and where? What. What should the posture have been with? Bill is even after the took effect. Yes I think maybe even. Five to five to eight years ago, you know the concept of filtering will looking at DNS as early warning system to look at. You know malware infections. Wasn't very common. Right 'em these days. However, we're actually getting customers coming to US asking how they can actually. enable. On queries responses just so that can actually analyze the traffic patterns, and so forth right, and so that's actually bringing to light the importance of DNS because it is a ubiquitous fundamental piece of technology a pretty much little. If any, I can think of devices out there. can survive without using DNS look ups. Right, so let's be the first point of. Chip Mao aware on will use that as a means to get out to see to service, commodity ulcers right so. Analyzing the Dina's response inquiries. Are critically important. Enterprise Network today, the potential compromise manipulation of the DNA would stop to impact those time responsive Yeah, yeah, you know way I. Mean we have a protocol blocks one threat defense. It's essentially a cloud managed. Security says. What it does is it brings cutting edge? Dina security onto market and not say cutting edge because and I get. There are many possible vendors out there that also claimed thing, but I think the devil's in the details, and if you must have the absolute vests. Security Service I think that you know we offer compelling product out. The in in the reason is because of the amount of threaten diligence, and that we supply to that the debt that we keep analyzing the streets as well as the machine learning algorithms in a I that underpins. On incentives, we do things like detecting domain generation algorithms will DJ's foss flux on Dina's based data, exfiltration and more recently What I think is particularly dangerous. Is something called alike demands? And these are the main, said that look identical to the real domains that attack is target, and so am as they send these through for example through a phishing email. is very very difficult for humans. I should tell it apart. And that's why we believe you actually need to employ machine learning to take. On Nash this Ad Justice saying I think that's an eraser very good point the in no way shape or fold his there one Tennessee. To solving. What is an incredibly complex and evolving? Threat Environment is, it is occurring I. Mean we all know that it just takes the bad actors to access something wants. To Be Successful. We have to game all the time I. Think the fact that DNA as a threat vector has really come about because of the amazing job. The industry has done. And we. Partner with a large number of all psyche security vendors because. Five years to really those fundamental change that happened and the intended consequence of. What he's a very individual protective. Varma Movado far wold intrusion prevention endpoint security next fall might really hard for the bad actors to get what they wanted. Whatever it might be and has realized that DNS was an easier way to get the problem, because obviously you know via DNS. They get to know who you are way. You are what your operating system is. What location you using would act. Like rat what? You're using so. That's wants to become the number one. A tactic says so. It really needs to be taught of your entire. I guess your security strategy, but it's a great one at this point time to be thinking about a not allowing VPN to be a false sense of security without putting achy fauna points on its as. Zada this is a fundamental of. It's pretty much how the Internet functions. All of this relates back to Jessica mentioned the blocks one threat defense. This is part of a management service. The DVD I seven assists Danish. They had to say pay an IP address management. Is that within blocks one or vase? So the separate Stan Line, because obviously these are the sort of the the network services that do night to be managed, kept an eye on, and and the other question would be. What are the alerts that come with? This as well is sitting in in the Sauk or at some sort of a network tool network management tool. Yeah, good question, Chris Censor firstly walks one is actually a platform. That Info Block wrote on several years ago now and we started from scratch with the intention riding it as a cloud native platform, so think about really light weight containers micro services that sort of thing you know, unlimited scale ability in the back in as part of that one platform with the first thing you know one of the first products that we rolled out as the threat park, which what we spoke about earlier is really a security says rider enables that deep dive in inspection around DNS queries and responses. You also mentioned that fundamentally it it goes hand in hand with this d I. Caught up his DNS, the TV, I P address management. That's also leaving rollout as containerized. Application virtual machine if you like, that can be rolled out. Very Agile in agile manner, cloud managed centrally. Scale and it's meant to protect in situations perfectly like this right where you have a lot of remote workers or maybe for distributed enterprise of have thousands, branches, or hundreds of thousands of branches, and these things will essentially collect a lot of that fundamental stuff. You know like it addressing dish down by the ACP. But it also collects analytics in around the DNS. Squeeze sulfonate protects it that way. So I would say that those are the core fundamental wouldn't technologies that enable us to provide the context as well as the blocking detection mechanisms, all ought to that. Chrissy also asked earlier about whether or not how this actually hooking to a security operation center on any thoughts right so this system obviously has long as API back in access to it, and we can proactively send alerts once we see something detect something. To any plethora of security stacks, new vendors and products out there, so I think currently today we would actually integrate with about eighty plus integrations. Vendor ungracious out there? So so this is this. This would be detecting network breaches, or would it be something deep? That might be. so the question he would be. What's the correlation to to it atop of a tight at tackle compromise that you wouldn't be saying it. Yet early indicators are they showing to the what type of attack? So it's actually a good segue into understanding how the attacks actually work. Initially Right A. Victim would essentially click on a link and it would do a look up onto. Potentially download something bad right. These days were seen instances particularly recently with this whole corona virus situation where. Bad actors with hosts, bad files on Google drive on some public domain, and so forth and they. Would you know that victim download that and that's what's called initial a dropper. Okay and once they run that it would actually then do another look up onto the commodity control site sitting elsewhere right, and then they would download You know further instructions on how to execute actions on Jacobs. The key note though that DNS is an integral part of this whole float. but it's also out of band. Right we are not in a Paler. Path right so. If. You think about it. If the first thing the victim does is do Adidas, look up for a dropper, right or even come out of control site and if you can block that. Peak Halo Happen. Right so that's that's one thing to recognize into very very good benefit onto the scale building early warning -tection system. Very early in that Sabat Q. China's that. It right that Reagan in a wine. Absolutely it breaks who? Goes out for C. Two sites that disappears. How does this and we bring that back on in terms of your role as regional? Director but also the managing director for countrywide. What type of opportunities are there? For that digital transformation because I think the the crisis. Gets everyone. Not just in the private everyone to reset and think about what's important. It would definitely P that it's accelerating that digital transformation are some of the opportunities because security often, should always be an eye, blah. But if you have good security. That that Brag Lash to go faster during your digital transformation. How you guys would say this. The role that you plans. Yeah, I mean I think it's it's. It's an interesting time. I think that we have to. Plan for the worst. Of Hope for the best and I think that you know whether we're seeing. Everything from how people are interacting with each other a digital means all the way down to how people consuming content, the massive upswing in east for consumers as well. We're seeing a real shift in change not. GOING TO BE ABELA for speeding up with the added digital transformation will that we've been living squad a long time. I mean if you lost couple of decades, I think you know my view on this is the you know. We built networks in a very different manner. In A and when we accelerate today's organizations, we now in every organization is being built today have to incorporate things like SASS multi cloud for jd, IOT SDN and similar concepts. To conserve both internal Bros outside jackass was difficult to do if you take into account, the results for network, fundamentals. it's not just intelligence. Reliability is about how you secured is networks so digital enterprises needs to be thinking about the security architecture differently because I mentioned before. You know we've had these very defined ways of which we've gone about how we have secured company Environments and Paradigm Shifts that we're looking at the. taught integrated networks that secured data center that's dissolving. That's going away because these concepts like multi, cloud and SAS. The changing the way the way revised copies, enterprises, and that perimeter the existed as we now talking about today's disappeared first I used soda. Voss has to do is Jasper's mentioned. Venus two terms when a device plugs into that network, the very first thing it does. Is that DNS Query Jasper mentioned and he says across any of those concepts like SAS. Multi cloud five, GNC, etc, etc, and before I city before it even authenticates DNS before the deepen an application fired up this DNS, and across all of those from concepts right and so. You know as I mentioned before. That's fundamental that knowing who they all say using all pregnancies in their own etc, etc.. And this context gives hackers the ability to access. Environments and we need to. We're trying to look at here. From the digital transformation. Success is context needs to provide that security so whether it's WHATSAPP social online purchasing that all centers around the contextual context connectivity that he's DNS without dns. Nothing can happen in the digital world hackers. I've taken hold of that as we've spoken about and it's. All the concepts respect dialogue linked, and they understand trusted I. mentioned you D fifty three before. Get through that again. This is the problem I think that without placing too heavily the I think we've we've in a unique position that we've solved. How do we secure yourself against something that is terribly trustees. How do we focused on de-westernising weaponising? Something that is trusted has been weaponized by those bad actors. Bothers Nation States by those Kitty scriptures I mean you know. We're beyond the Diet now and particularly. We're seeing this now. Where we approach networking like we did lost twenty or thirty years the transit years. Concepts like saw. Are Really important in how you take those solid lies and bring them together. To provide a common response to really accelerate that digital transformation journey. As is pointed at it's. It's foundational networking really at the end of the die. It's dealing with the the very first. Lia- and the most critical lack that bridge, or that part of the attack process than you've got to have new kid and I. Just wanted to add I. Don't know if it's a digital transformation June of withdraw. But I think certainly look, but you're just as early as yesterday by hosting a roundtable event for some CIO's nothing to a twelve of them, a dozen that showed up right and one thing brought me. Right was on every single one of them. We're thinking about the future right and what it holds, and what it brings undoubtedly in the last couple of weeks or months on there being reacting really quickly to this, you know this. Situation around remote worth right, but what's on your mind with? How is it going to change in next three months six months or twelve months only beyond right, intensive their architecture. Right so this situation. This global crisis I think has given them a reason to pause to rethink about new architecture. Going that's going to go in the future because this is not going to change anytime soon. I think the world has mentally tanks, and therefore it gives them time to think about the the digital transformation initiatives had a Had it become more secure on, and we still go back to the fact that you're DNS is fundamental, and it does not discriminate against any device. Works Against Iot. Mobiles laptops etc, and so I think it's it's a very useful. Point to shoot SPEC. I think also. That the thing is that the companies that are going to succeed out on these other ones that able to pivot quickly and take advantage of the market opportunities. It didn't exist before an exemplar, US company soaking record interesting model provides software Ed. For the health industry which we know is decimated, asked to covid nineteen. They should pivoted themselves to a position where before you can have a class of site twenty five people to creating virtual classrooms of two three four times that amount and adjusting go to market model to make those changes so. While we, drilling to the digital transformation elements that define security that define. Intellectual Property Control and There are some significant opportunities here as well for those companies are able to pivot the business and take advantage of the situation as well. Is that the business continuity tuning into the the new business normal in having to adapt that. Security Easel as fundamental regardless of what the digital planning. To be is happening. Security has to be there at the Pool Front, and it has to be his on as well as as being critical for the audience perspective at delays them with further rating on where this touches a role in my will be a role for some listening. There is a white paper available. Securing Ra might work in the eye of. In which walks through the autumns that we've discussed today. point to episode one five three, also in terms of at previous to be invited locks looking at the criticality. Obtain S, but in also it is one of those obvious ones that can get missed. We'd do often more cyber attacks, Saba. Threats This is really the fundamental of networking, and this is where it's really happening, so thank you very much for that James. Died would be joined by Matt. Hannah the invite boxes, managing director I dead and regional director for the South Pacific and Jessica Cheek, silence. Engineering Manager Australia New Zealand Jim Thanks for joining us on the security weekly podcast crater sex having again now. Listen is looking for. Authors I can't write and bullishness will be aware we will have background noises now that we can't control. loveliest heavy sitting out there with the goods chipping in the background.
Hackers | 3
"Do you? Remember, the movie hackers? It first came out in nineteen ninety-five and back, then the internet was still pretty unfamiliar, which is partly why movie buffs. Consider hackers to be ahead of its time. The godfather of Jarrah inspiring other movies and TV shows that explore this dark underworld of hackers and cyber warfare in the need the world. Is the world. They inhabit the movie stars young Angelina Jolie and Jonny Lee Miller, and it opens with millers character a teenager named Dade sparking a financial crisis from his bedroom by hacking and crashing fifteen hundred computers on Wall Street over the course of the film Dade and his friends also hack an oil company and a TV station. I'm taking over a TV network. And they end up in a cyber battle with the movie's villain of fellow hacker. Who's created this virus to capsize a bunch of oil tankers? Now, I'd never actually seen the movie myself. But Alexander far sky suggested I check it out. Thought the Bosnian raised. I met Alexander Moscow told me that many aspects of the movie are actually pretty realistic. And in fact, the film hackers was partly what inspired him to become one. This. Our just for fun. And at first it was just for fun to prove yourself to your friends in the hacking scene. Say about bellator the political game started in the cyber world entered a dangerous time. I'm Jeff simple. The Europe bureau chief for global news. And this is Russia rising on this episode will visit the frontlines of growing cyber war where hackers from Russia, Iran, China and other countries are now battling for everything from the password to your online Bank account to control of your cities hydro grid. Consumer report shows found millions of smart TV's from major manufacturers can be controlled by hackers. We've all heard the scary headlines. A new sixty minutes report reveals that may be much easier to hack into a personal cell phone than you might think. And that's not all there are a couple of hackers who've even been able to take over a car remotely while it's driving down the highway, but how concerned should we really be? What do we need to know to protect ourselves online? And why is it that we so often hear headlines and warnings about hackers? Specifically from Russia. US officials tell C N N the Russian hacks continue around the clock. Well, who better to ask than a guy who used to be one? Thank you. Alexander VAR sky is well known in Russia's hacking seen or at least he used to be. He's now retired. He says he agreed to meet me at his Moscow apartment and somewhat almonds. -ly? He told me to bring my laptop. So he could quote show me something. But before the demonstration, we sit down for an interview. Please. My name is Alexander and. Haikus nickname and see as she for the twenty two years. Why did you start doing? Needs to be as it was inevitable computer of Cyprus key. My parents ran a business importing and selling computers. And as a result, I was able to get online before nineteen ninety-five much earlier than my peers Alexander grew up in the ninety s and like a lot of Russians his cyber skills are rooted in history. Science and technology were hugely important to the Soviet Union. Dating back to the days of Lenin a century ago. Joseph Stalin launched poly Technic schools to train military engineers, then came the Cold War with the arms race and the space race man had his first great success in space. Russia's push demand across but after the Soviet Union collapsed, unemployment soared a recession worse than the great depression in the United States meant the jobs for workers with those prized technical skills were suddenly in short supply back. Then Alexander was a bright tech savvy kid. Times were tough says, but this was music to his ears. Us when computers I arrived. They offered a kind of freedom in those hard times for Alexander generation, the internet provided an escape a lifeline and before long a way to make money both legally and legally he says he met a group of friends online, and they used to hack companies for fun on Seca. Geico fifteen it's cool to hack into Microsoft or Vodafone and say, hi using your code. Learned computer programs and codes. And if they were codes with restrictions the challenge was to find a way to crack. Those restrictions. Just for fun. And at first it was just for fun because I to prove yourself to your friends in the hacker scene. But boom. Preserve, the then the internet became a marketplace. But we ever you could buy and sell things views them web money starting around two thousand two thousand three's Cup. A lot of us were pretty experienced some corporations and some of my friends went to work for corporation. That's on cyber security firms, though, threaten others hoops laid dark side on the Dirk side and the dark side of the cyber world can include using the internet to steal both money and personal information. So Alexander asks to borrow my laptop and shows he hasn't lost his, touch, and you can see here web chart for anonymous. He opens a chat forum from the famous hacktivists group anonymous and he pulls up an archive of chat from twenty sixteen oppressively anthem of anonymous members calling for cyber attacks on Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. This is on this Friday morning. That hacker collective known as an honest anonymous did launch cyber. Attacks on both Clinton and Donald Trump's presidential campaigns. They have hacked into Donald Trump's personal information. They listed on line. One of his cell phone numbers social security number. Now. Those anonymous cyber attacks didn't really amount to much some of Trump's personal information was leaked and a pro Clinton campaign website was shut down. But the biggest cyber attack of that presidential campaign Russia, if you're listening was still to come. I hope you're able to find the thirty thousand emails that are missing this just into Russian hacker is managed to infiltrate the computer network at the Democratic National Committee, the cyber attack on the server of the DNC and Hillary Clinton's emails tops, a long list of recent high profile cyber attacks blamed on Russian hackers now the Kremlin has denied any involvement. But. In twenty nine page indictment submitted in the summer of twenty eighteen the US department of Justice detailed how Russian intelligence officers allegedly implanted hundreds of malware files on the Democrats computer systems to steal information. Well, another US indictment that fall accused Russian agents of hacking anti-doping agencies, including in Canada, Russian intelligence officers are also accused of launching cyber plots in the Netherlands against the world's chemical weapons watchdog more than twenty of the FBI's most wanted cybercriminals are from Russia. The most of any nationality followed closely by Iran, certainly Russian-speaking, cybercriminals are very talented group of people. That's Canadian nNcholas Palmer. He lives in Moscow and his day job is hunting Russian hacker. There's we cover many mainly financially. Motivated attack groups mainly Russian-speaking groups Palmer is originally from Nova Scotia and is now the director of international business at group IB a private cybersecurity firm based in Russia. Palmer has spent his career preventing and responding to cyber attacks on internet users and businesses around the world, but he says Russian cybercriminals represent his greatest challenge. We've seen them, you know, very easily enter Vang networks move laterally to different sensitive systems within the banks and conduct very highly skilled attacks against theoretically. Well, protected networks Plummer gives me a tour of his company's office. There are rows of computers with mostly young adults in their twenties and thirties furiously typing and clicking away. So actually, you're standing in our cert room. So this is our. Computer, emergency response team on the far wall. There's a large projector screen dubbed, the I which shows cyber attacks happening in real time. It's basically a collection of web pages. Many of them fakes trying to get users to click on a link or enter their personal information. And I noticed one website on the screen that looks familiar whether we looking at right here. So this is actually a fishing page. So it's a page trying to make people believe it's a Royal Bank of Canada page, and actually it's a page that suburb criminals developed try and steal the username password for Royal Bank of Canada customers. Palmer says the Canadians are sent emails that look like they're from the Bank. But instead contain this fake but convincing our BC website and others like it, which problem to enter their online banking password. And unfortunately, detect thousands of these that are hosted in Russia. In the Ukraine or other such countries and this team here. Search be actually works to take down these pages. So that Canadian customers don't lose their credentials and money cybercrime costs the Canadian economy nearly five billion dollars a year, including ransoms that are paid by ordinary Canadians to cybercriminals often in exchange for their stolen personal information. If you look at the the tools that are developed and used by different offensive groups that are trying to do so for for evil. If you will a lot of them are developed by Russian speaking individuals. I've actually thought about this a lot, you know, why is it that the Russian speaking cybercriminals is is so much more talented. You know, I think it probably goes back to the history of of Soviet Union and really investing a lot into, you know, the education of the individuals here, especially within the engineering space, and there's. Like, I said a lot of very talented people within the programming space. And unfortunately, sometimes there there's not always enough viably economic positions legal economic positions that they they can acquire here in Russia. So unfortunately, young individuals that have high programming skills with no job opportunities may choose the path of of quick success for for dollars. But unlike the painful post Soviet years these days Russia's unemployment rate is that historic lows and the IT industry actually has shortage of specialists Palmer's company works with local universities to try and recruit taxamnesty Russian youth to show them that there's a lot of really cool opportunities within the security space to to do and use your skills for good. And he also works to educate regular internet users who he says often seriously underestimate the potential for cyber attacks. Being cyber vigilant is incredibly important working in this industry has taught me to always be. Concerned about what I'm putting online where I'm putting it. What types of passwords? Do I use to use the same password on more than one site? You know, where do I store this information? How's it getting out there, you know, Canadian should be should be vigilant about what they do, you know when they access their their Bank accounts. Ensure that it's as GPS, you know, understanding if it's legitimate webpage or or not, you know, potentially a fishing page trying steal banking credentials using him in password. You know, understanding these types of things can can ensure that their information doesn't get doesn't get taken and used for for malicious purposes and financial cybercrime is only part of that question. Hi, Jeff to get a sense of the bigger picture. I connected via Skype with Mortiz Callan or cabbie for short. He's a leading expert in cybersecurity whose advised the Canadian government among many others on how to protect against cyber attacks. When we talk about the threats that are facing Canadians in the cyber world. What generally do you see as being the biggest one one of the things that we need to dive into just before we go into the question of what the biggest threat is kinda define what the cyber threat. Looks like cabbie divides, those cyber threats into three key categories or BA three buckets as he likes to call them. The reason that I'd like to do that is then the threats to whether that to everyday Canadians, whether they're to businesses whether the government they are they kind of shake out of the three buckets cyberthreat bucket number one is cyber theft. Hairless go get the money instead of an old fashioned Bank heist. The are now using key strokes instead of guns to steal money. Like, we just discussed with nNcholas Palmer and to steal personal data intellectual property even state secrets remember the time. The US government was busted for ease dropping on its allies documents leaked by Edward Snowden show that the NSA may have been spying on Chancellor Angela Merkel. The Canadian government has also been attacked by cyber thieves the government's largest research organization. The National Research Council was hacked back in twenty fourteen and had some of its works stolen, allegedly by the Chinese costing Ottawa hundreds of millions of dollars. There are a number of nation states, which interested in what we do secrets that. We have the information around our economy, those sorts of areas cabbies cyberthreat bucket number two is this information like. Those Russian internet trolls accused of meddling in election campaigns, for example, some referred to it as fake news. But the use of a variety of digital channels particularly social media to if you like poison democratic system opposing some of the conversations and drive wedges in society and cabbies third and final cyberthreat bucket is probably the scariest one cyber warfare. It involves the kind of doomsday scenarios, we often seed dramatized in Hollywood movies. I'm doing America favor. Like die hard four, for example, where hackers try to shut down America's entire computer infrastructure. Just issued a critical the entire network down. Crashing just hit the entire financial sector. Now. Obviously, we haven't seen anything on that scale, which is fortunate since Bruce Willis isn't as young as he used to be but these cyber warfare attacks do happen. The damage is very real and one recent example, sent a chill around the world the life went out for hundreds of thousands of people right before Christmas, a cyber attack on the power grid in Ukraine caused widespread. Blackouts Russia appears to figured out how to crash power grid. With a click cabbie says that attack traced back to computers in Russia was a wakeup call to officials in Canada. I suddenly know that within the Canadian electric association, for example. This is a group umbrella group represents many of the electric providers in in Canada or the industry as a whole they have very concerned with this area. They have cyber security operating groups many of those involved in power and utilities do take the cybersecurity threats seriously. So they do take meshes, and they try to put these measures in place to prevent those sorts of scenarios from volving, but the biggest cyber attack of them all went far beyond a single country. I major so called ransomware attack is underway worldwide. The wannacry virus was a ransomware cyber attack in twenty seventeen that infected and shutdown hundreds of thousands of computers across one hundred and fifty countries security experts say this is one of the worst and most widespread pieces of now where they've ever seen causing billions of dollars in damage knocking banks oil companies, even hospitals. Fourth in hospitals across the UK to turn away patients American Canadian and British authorities blamed North Korea for that one a cry cyber attack, but perhaps the most important detail of that story, isn't who was responsible or even the extent of the damage. It's that the biggest ransomware attack in history started with a single Email. It arrived on a Friday morning in the inbox of some unsuspecting computer user somewhere in Europe. The Email contained an attachment a compressed zip file and in a split-second decision. They opened it. I will say this. The biggest problem with cyber security is the fact that we've got, you know, big firewalls and everything in place in those get breached all the time even with those in place what they rely on if someone cl-. Picking someone clicking a link someone actually bringing the payload in someone actually letting them get into the system of all the cyber attacks reported last year more than ninety percent were avoidable the wannacry virus like the cyber attack on Hillary Clinton's Email server, and so many others caused widespread damage all because someone received a suspicious, Email and clicked on it. Anyway. So the first thing I would take away from that is we tend to think about of security and the need cybersecurity as by mall firewalls, but Mobilink shiny things in place in we'll be safe. And actual fact the human component of it the social engineering component of it is just as if not more important. I would say that it is far easier to get into a break into a system and inject Melwood. Do whatever else you wish by compromising human be than by direct. Attacking that system. Okay. Spoiler alert at the end of the movie hackers. Remember, the film are Russian friend Alexsandr recommended. There's a massive cyber battle the goodguys Dade and his teenage hacker friends finally defeat the villain preventing him from capsizing, those oil tankers and causing mass destruction. And of course, Dade gets the girl. I can't believe they decided you won guys felt that the only way I'd get a date. But experts say that in the real cyber war, the heroes aren't hackers. But ordinary computer users that it's up to people like you and me to educate ourselves about the risks online. And to think before you click. For curious cast and global news. This is Russia rising an investigative series from me Jeff simple to unravel the mystery of today's Russia if you liked what you heard you can help spread the word by rating reviewing end subscribing for free now at apple podcasts. Spotify Google podcasts and every other act where you get your streaming audio. We can also be found a curious cast dot CA next time will investigate the case of Sergei scribble. The former Russian spy who was poisoned with a deadly nerve agent in Salisbury England. This girl or near Russian secret. I would never do that with a personal authors ation from Putin man, where they just berate in in very very unprofessional way. And we see it everywhere. The British government was quick to accuse the Kremlin and a slew of western countries, including Canada responded with sanctions and by kicking out. Russian diplomats will cut out the noise and examined the evidence, including what it reveals about Russia's secret intelligence operations. That's next time on Russia rising. If you have a question or want to know more follow me on Twitter at Jeff simple GM or Email me at Russia rising at curious cast dot CA and be sure to check out the show notes. For more information about what you heard today. Russia rising. Written and hosted by me, Jeff simple deliver. As is our story producer and sound design is by rob Johnston. 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Give Me SOMETHING - Ep 1 | Weather markets, esports and more
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He's every single day in every single capital city. You can take the over the for example tomorrow. The twenty fifth of March Wave Got Sydney's weather at over twenty two and a half. The grace can get you a dollar eighty seven if you think it might be a little bit colder at on the twenty two and a half degrees you getting a dollar eighty seven so if you if you if you're like a a bit of a. May Rolla just something you you know you can pretty facing can get ahead of us now with very good at predicting sport at Role they're the experts in their chosen field. When not meterologist so you if you have more than us you get on my back started some research now tomorrow millman. There's GONNA be a southerly kick up the sadly these Tom. Gabe brings cold. Winds with ABN service at seventy nine point nine degrees and then all of a sudden Seventeen point nine degrees at two pm now at the moment Balmy sighing. It's GonNa be added integrated to ABM often some charting. 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You decide Sri now who probably get the job done in. Hold onto all you have to think. Well I think that's pretty much tomorrow. Always van markets well into the future which Just against the break is all is all. I thought we had what your eyes pulled out of that number one senator originate before before we go and I'm very excited for the pundits to to talk about money. You know what I should have. Their money taught up in something. It's not stockbroker it's in his incredibly future Given him has the overall heavy funding oscillation have your aging cleaning as I am of constant It's pretty pathetic. It's basically tail on the floor. But I'm Jim and I've been doing if you quarantine forty five sessions citron active and do what I can There's a few really good online workouts and stuff getting into shape but it is pretty blake. I'll be honest I do enjoy. 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Grandfather rape is watching Pre-arranged buys fourteen just olds forty-five minutes as just again it. It's very much marks off or we'll good good either you both going well Jedi quickly. Just breeze right. What would go on your desktop way going? Melvin without said the SALVO IS GONNA kick out. Before two o'clock. The temperature will not get above. Seventeen point non. The Grace Mellman at adult eighty seven into Sydney over. Twenty two point five degrees because at thunderstorms gonNA come in a little bit early than full cost on predicting Thunderstorm comes in it. Locks in the hate Hammy it calms get at Temperatures GonNa fall below twenty two and a half so Sydney at the Melwood at the unders. Thank you for the rabbits inside where we planning the paradox diming versus a born a sports Cobb And I've had to talk to the game on Thursday not to be confused with a game against shake gaming up to not beautiful and of course in the Brisbane May elections taking place. This Saturday all going. Well I dreamed SHR enough. Putting the lion share on human a little cyber on Paddy Condron Illu far removed from the live potty at fray dollars fifty. Thanks Tom Before to doing all the next hour is kate. Bring those five buckets as well. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA come up with a few more a few more interesting ones. I think in Cape Cape How am I promise? Dick Storm through an event that he's on the dot. Yeah that'd be nice given it was the brave good now. If there's anything you'd like is the price up or is anything you'd like us to specifically drove me and the comments below this post and we'll try to get to as many again That's Info give me something for the first edition gamble responsibly. We'll say tomorrow.