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"mellow kaku" Discussed on Worldly

Worldly

06:27 min | 5 months ago

"mellow kaku" Discussed on Worldly

"They keep the statue up because it immunizes them, and it is the nation of Belgium, right, it allows Belgian to understand themselves as not being part of a state whose modern incarnation was founded on oppression, and that has implications for the way that you think about. About contemporary politics on issues like reparations for colonialism or slavery, or even how you should think about, let's say immigration from former colonies in the context Belgium right. If you feel the Oh these people debt, because of the way that you treated them in the past collectively, not you individually, then, maybe there's a much stronger argument for giving them rights to immigrate then there might be otherwise or reasons to give them preference in immigration. These these kind of interplay between our normative understandings civil. We ought to do today and what we've done in the past are very complicated, but the point is that these fights that seem symbolic actually have real stakes, not just people walking around and how they see themselves I don't mean to deny that that's important, but in terms of big deal, policy conversations and ways that you understand your nation in contemporary politics. I'll just give a concrete example about Belgium of which shocking that I somehow found a way to make this conversation about soccer so every time everything. So, if you follow soccer, you'll know this. Belgium's best players guy named in his art, but argued with their second best player in their main goalscorers. A guy named Mellow Kaku by his name. You probably know that he is of Congolese or heritage. His parents are from the Congo. He grew up in Antwerp. That Leopold Statue. The Gen mentioned was it was hard initially for a lot of Belgians and I know this for to accept him on the team. The team is now way more integrated than it used to be and Lukaku success. was that he he's keep scoring, but also the team came third in the last World Cup and I remember talking to some Belgians at the time when I was there in two thousand. Thousand ten before the World Cup, but basically being like you know this teams getting good, and it's in part because of this of Lukaku and others, and it was like yeah, thank goodness for Leopold like I'd heard people say that they were basically making the case. That is a good deal that finally some players from elsewhere could join the small country of Belgium and make the team better, and that is regaling. Yeah the second of process that Dear God, yeah! And I remember I met her that bars and stuff, and this is also in Belgium is an insanely fractured country are not going to go into the history, but. Having the myth of Leopold as like a binding agent for for that country, and the fact that that's going away is i. mean good I'm not against it, but it will actually cause a problem for the myth of that country. It is allowed Flanders and Wallonia to the Dutch, the French speaking part that are always at each other's throats and trying to separate to somehow stick together. There's a reason why this myth has persisted for so long beyond that the right once again mentioned family and whatnot, but like the. And the soccer thing and outlast point is like. An. I think this takes us into the second part of the conversation. Is that Europe shockingly white continent and the tons of soccer teams. The I've been at the forefront of being symbols of countries is in that on that continents progress France, perhaps being the main example where tons of players whose you know, parents come from Francophone. Africa moved to France and some members joined the French national team, and then they've what they've won two cups since that integration started even though you have people like the Lapenne family that leads the populist right where his. His discharge, saying they do not represent France and so this is actually like a part of the conversation that France and Belgium and a bunch of other countries are starting to lead, which is that you can integrate? You can move Europe story forward and that this is that in of self those teams is a reflection of the new societies in those countries, and those societies in those countries are going after those old myths, and that's kind of what the corporate we're talking about. So that's A. that's a perfect place for us to take a break. When we come back, we're going to talk about these issues of national cohesiveness and national identity and historical memory, and the way that they play into contemporary politics and even sometimes relations between states. Welcome, back worldly listeners we have been talking about the role of historical memory in international politics, particularly as it relates to race, slavery and colonialism in the wake of the George Floyd protests, and how that's created fights over symbolism that aren't aren't really fights over symbolism so much as they are fights over how countries understand themselves, and how people understand their own countries. In this half, we WANNA talk about different models that countries have developed around the world for doing this kind of historical reckoning and and. And how successful they are, and how unsuccessful they are, and how they play into the ways that country see their relations with other states, and even their role on the global stage, so the example that that always comes up in these conversations non avoidable. One I think is Germany. His Germany's south understanding had to be rebuilt after World War Two after it was responsible for all of it for the war for the Holocaust the greatest loss of life in one instance in human history. And this was such a shattering event for the German people that the new, especially the West. German state eventually the unified German state had to come up with some some new self understanding way of seeing itself talking about itself, the took into account, the horrific acts that it had just collectively participated in so Germany has built up this very open and and clear acknowledgement of its role especially in the Holocaust. It's talked about their public displays that. Don't commemorate Nazi general so much as identify sites of atrocities and helped Germans understand and reconcile themselves to their own history, it served as a kind of reverse buying agent were Germans understand themselves as part of a shared state and shared history, not out of national pride in the sense of we are awesome, but a sense of we need to do better than what we've done in the past. We need to be a good country because of what we have done I have personal experience with us. As as listeners, longtime listeners might know..

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"mellow kaku" Discussed on Outside the Lines

Outside the Lines

06:26 min | 1 year ago

"mellow kaku" Discussed on Outside the Lines

"When it comes to hiring you don't have time to waste you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified. The five candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot com post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on qualified candidates using an intuitive online dashboard word and when you need to hire fast accelerate your results with sponsor jobs new users can try it for free at indeed dot com slash outside. That's indeed dot com slash outside aside terms conditions and quality standards apply outside. The lines is brought to you by office depot officemax. Here's more new. It's a story. We've been reporting for many years this week again. Another example the belgian striker mellow lukaku now playing for inter milan on abused by fans and colori italy instead of condemning the fans holy. Yari defended them and instead of supporting lukaku in inter fan group had this to stay. We understand that it could have seen racist to you but it's not like that. The scream of the north said in italy we use some ways only to help artnews and to try to make our opponents nervous not for racism but to mess them up for more we welcome shock hislop the former goalkeeper for trinidad's national national team. He spent a decade and a half playing at the highest levels of english club soccer. He's also the honorary president of show racism the red card chaka. Thank thank you for being with us when you saw what was happening with mellow kaku the most talented players in the world what what went through your mind on the one hand. I wasn't that surprised. Contrary hungary have ever history of this type of abuse dating back to samuel latter's days. Go going there as intimate player himself just earlier this year. Eh moisture ken from new vendors when there he was abused similarly leonardo nucci the italian stole water and you've just legend himself almost seemed to side of the kyrie fans in putting the blame on moisture cans moore's against so to have us back here at the same ground talking about this issue albeit this time a different player not that surprising disappointing but not surprising so so the issue is always been shock up. It's it's not what ah collie. Ari is going to do or other teams in which fans behave this way. It's about what the governing body's gonna do that. What you wafer fuck is going to do what is going to do. What are they doing. Nothing i'm giving our recent history. Dodge spoke about not only that the club's not do anything not only that italy tally syria as a body taking action against cavalleri. There was new action from the italian efi orphan u._f._o. Why think can follow up if they don't <hes> <hes> deemed the punishment so the reactions necessary simile for so it was the ball has been dropped in a number of levels as a result. It's i don't think anybody fears and kind of retribution y- it's it's just shocking i mean when you see the abuse and it's not just in italy as you said. We've seen it a lot in spain. We've seen it especially in eastern europe in recent years. Is some of those clubs have come to greater prominence if you were president for day or if you had johnny fatigue knows year. What would you tell them. What would you tell them has to be done. There has to be strong and meaningful action. Now that can come come in any number of ways it could come in the form of a points deduction no no partial stadium closure and then if if the if these incidents aku those points deductions unstuck losers grow even larger impact the clubs even more from from an administrative or financial perspective you can see to the cupboard unless us we arias as an example here. I'm honda dona fine of five hundred thousand. I'm just going to throw that out and i know there are legal implications to that but i would suspend say four hundred thousand suspended on the understanding that cagliari <unk> club enact some kind of action or educated educative educative support to these clubs and and if you do that then you don't have to pay the huge book of the finds finds are any number of ways. The education is important because as we've been discussing a lot of people don't even say this is a problem as you see. In the statement from the carbon knew the inter milan funds it shows a distance between what people understand recent to to be action towards it and as far as they're concerned the to overlap and until people recognize that these that racism this type of racist. This chanting has fog rita implications outside of football stadium. I just don't think it goes away. Schalke hislop is the honorary very president of show racism the red card chuck. It's always a pleasure because it'd be jerry when we return a twist in the narrative cycling's great event and and drugs but this isn't the story you think it is knowledge truth brought to you by geico truth. Teenagers can communicate entirely in emojis how wise birthday party this. Thanks kitten soccer ball pineapple truth. It's so easy to switch and save on car insurance at geiko dot com. What are you talking about. Ooh <music> paperclips shoulder shrug high five wizard hat. 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"mellow kaku" Discussed on The Takeaway

The Takeaway

04:20 min | 2 years ago

"mellow kaku" Discussed on The Takeaway

"It's the takeaway i'm tanzania vega when a twenty eighteen world cup winner is announced in moscow on sunday one thing's for sure the team with the trophy for the fourth consecutive men's world cup in a row we'll be from europe four countries or left to fight it out in the semi finals france belgium croatia and england but european success on the field isn't just a measure of team starpower gills boy cough is a former professional soccer player and professor of politics and government at pacific university in oregon jewels thanks for joining us thank you so it doesn't seem like the world cup but the euro cup or the elder mundial which was one house spanish language newspaper called at this weekend isn't a surprise that we're left with these teams again well in some ways it is given the recent success of teams especially from latin america but on the other hand it isn't a surprise because there are some significant advantages the european football countries hold and one of them is definitely money of this world cup has demonstrated over and over again that soccer is essentially politics by other means but it's also economics by other means these european powers have high tech training programs robust youth academies strong wellfunded domestic soccer leagues that all benefit the european powers just one example they have these high tech automated cages that zip in soccer balls from different angles and the players meant to control and pass it and sort of teach them the ineffable elements the creative elements of soccer a lot of the poor nations economically just simply don't have that and so that's definitely one factor at work here the other one i would say is that there's sort of a colonial boomerang effect that we're seeing at this world cup that's definitely benefited european countries so successful european teams in the semifinals have poached players essentially from the talent pools of their former colonial empires plus if you look at world cup rosters in european soccer powers there's no question that immigration has benefited them immigration that's a legacy of colonialism so you look at france for example seventeen players on their roster were born to first generation immigrants same for belgium with glorious players like mellow kaku and vincent company whose families immigrated from congo and then there's marwan fellini nassir charlie who's heritage's moroccan these are some of the stars of the belgian team and not bit players and i'm wondering given the political landscape right now not just in the united states particularly in europe with brexit and racism and increasingly far right how is this hour these players being received well it's very mixed i mean this is sort of a battle for the identity of england right now if you mentioned brexit but you have to look at this roster and say that were it not for the diversity of the english team they would not be in the semifinals the excessive england's team should be read i think as a direct rebuke of the insular sentiments that animate brexit maybe another example of brexit tears getting mugged by reality so there is a discussion in england right now there are many players on the england team who have roots outside of england even harry kane has irish roots the big score who may well win the golden boot for most goals scored in the tournament raheem sterling and other star was born in jamaica deli ali's father is nigerian so this is really jump started some important conversations are happening right now in england for sure kills with the most exciting team that that left for you who are you paying attention to going into the end of this yeah well i'm excited about belgium i think they have just some superstars including romell lukaku who is just a really smart player can affect a game without even touching the ball by smart runs and the way he can let a ball through his leg so i'm excited about lukaku i think croatia croatias interesting as well they've had some players speaking out on politics and before the tournament they're football ministration was complete mayhem so as a bit of surprise that they're in the final so no matter what it's going to be exciting so looking forward to it tools blake off former professional soccer player professor pacific university in oregon thanks for joining us thank you.

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