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Melissa Etheridge's 21-year-old son has died, singer says

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Melissa Etheridge's 21-year-old son has died, singer says

"The twenty one year old son of singer Melissa Ethridge is dead from an opioid overdose writer. Melissa Ethridge says her son Beckett. Cypher died of an opioid overdose. She said Dow she has joined the hundreds of thousands of families. Who've lost ones to opioids and while they struggled to save him he's out of pain now. Cipher was the child through had with her former partner. Filmmaker Julie Cypher Singer. David Crosby was the biological father who donated his sperm so the couple could conceive the child she had. She will sing again at some point because singing always healed her a multiple grammy winner. Ethridge also owns an Oscar for the song. I need to up from the film an inconvenient truth.

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Melissa Etheridge's 21-year-old son has died, singer says

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00:41 sec | 1 year ago

Melissa Etheridge's 21-year-old son has died, singer says

"Rock SINGER MELISSA. Ethridge is twenty one year old son Beckett. Cypher has died. The death was announced yesterday on twitter. Melissa Ethridge said that her family now joins hundreds of thousands of others who've lost a loved one to opioid addiction. Ethridge tweeted that Beckett struggle to overcome as addiction. She said her heart is broken Beckett. Cypher was one of two children that Melissa Ethridge had with former partner Julie Cypher conceived with sperm from singer. David crosby their daughter. Bailey was born in nineteen ninety. Seven Beckett Cypher was born in nineteen ninety eight. Melissa Ethridge and Julie. Cypher split up in two thousand.

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Episode 151: Melissa Etheridge

5 Questions with Dan Schawbel

06:20 min | Last month

Episode 151: Melissa Etheridge

"Hi this is melissa ethridge. And you're listening to five questions for dan chevelle. You're listening to the five questions podcast. I'm your host. Dan shaw bow in fewer than ten minutes. My goal is to extract of best rights in the world's smartest and most interesting people might ask them just by questions. my guess. Today's singer songwriter and guitarist. Melissa ethridge melissa roasted fame with her mainstream breakthrough album. Yes i am with singles including. I'm the only one and come to my window throwing her career. She's received fifteen grammy award. Nominations and won two of them more recently. Melissa released her new album. One way out that has unreleased songs from the nineteen eighties and early nineties. We talk about the new album her childhood dealing with loss and more during this podcast episode. Unless i welcome to five questions hello well. It's great to have you here growing up in kansas. When did you realize that you could turn your music into a full career. I don't know if i realized it. But i hope for it. I watched artists on television. I listened to the radio. I had incredible drive to do it. And then when. I was about twelve and thirteen. I started playing in bands and i think the first time. I got aid like ten bucks for doing that. I went oh this is great. I can make money and do what i love. Yeah i find a lot of artists especially musicians. They're just doing it for fun to start. They're not like well. I'm going to do this. And like magically i'm going to be a millionaire and be famous because it's so hard to make it so it's more about the journey and that's something i always respect and entertainers because it is incredibly competitive thinking of competition. It's not something you can can a game you go in and you win or lose you just keep doing it loving it and hoping other people love it to you of course have both a huge community over the course of your career you were discovered in a gay bar yet. The record label you had asked in the meeting. What are you going to do about this gay thing. How do they eventually come around to accept you for who you are. They always accepted me for who i was. They had no problem. They knew of course from the day they met me because they met me in a gay bar in my girlfriend and they knew my life. It was just at that time. You didn't tell the public that you didn't say that nobody had said it out loud to anyone and so don't ask don't tell we just didn't tell anybody it was just a bar long beach not a gay bar along the and they said well as long as you don't flag way whatever that meant and four years later. I was flag-waving they were. They were fine with along fast forward to today. I mean it's completely. I always knew it. Would it would change. I always knew what you were just like looking at the clock you like someday day. Let's see twenty eighteen right but you've had a very very tough year very tough several years. He recently lost. Your son do opioid addiction and you beat breast cancer several years ago. How these experiences changed how you think about your life and career. I realized that life is just a way it goes up and down. And i'm not gonna let the down parts. Keep me down. I'm going to appreciate them as contrast so. The highs are higher and more appreciated. But i always know that. This is a dualistic reality. We live in good bad and black and white right wrong and up and down and you go through those things so that you can feel and appreciate more so you know. I'm not the only one who's lost people or or had a health crisis we all do. So it's it's foul. We take our next steps after that that really determines the enjoy ability of our own life. Music's really helped you to find what is very common with creative artists that when they're struggling that's when sometimes they can produce their best art or they use their art as a form of therapy to get through things i've read about you and your career. That's something that you've said after cancer just created the way. I wrote songs my whole ill. The subjects i wrote songs about completely changed and after las my son i really drew myself into all of my work from the past during the lockdown i i was streaming from home and i played every single song i ever recorded and it kinda got me back in touch with all of my past work that i'd done and that was really healing and speaking of songs you have decided to release these songs that your quarter many years ago today. Why did you decide to hold off until now it was never right. I didn't do it on purpose. It just didn't happen until now. I know that going back and looking at the songs understanding that back then i was more insecure about my voice not singing voice but my voice as an artist and some of these songs were very strong. They're very intense in milan. My music is but these songs were almost overtly gay kind of almost. And i wasn't out yet and they were very feminist. Based and i was. I was a little nervous and uncomfortable with releasing ben. Now they're perfectly normal. You know that sort of the way we behave now so these songs really fit right now. I love that and yeah. It is the perfect time to release these tracks and it is a very intense period but it's also can look at things good and bad and part of a good. Is you see more of acceptance of diverse groups of people like you wouldn't of you know maybe decades ago and what's your best piece of career advice best piece accrued by is to understand that this is a journey. You put the goals in front of you and you go for them with joy and passion yet. It's not the destination. I've had huge hit records but it was the journey to that. I remember in that. I enjoy and i would say damore sit-ups that's why i would say thank you so much for sharing your wisdom melissa to follow. Her journey can listen to her new album. One way out and find on youtube instagram twitter and facebook where she shares her appearances concerts and new songs to watch the full extended video version of this episode. Go to youtube dot com slash. Dan shah bell and please remember to rate and review the five questions. Podcasts and ideas.

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Tim Godwin Will Take You Back Stage & Steal Your Air Supply

Campfire Sht Show

58:27 min | 8 months ago

Tim Godwin Will Take You Back Stage & Steal Your Air Supply

"Listeners thanks for tuning into our podcast but we know you may have an idea for your own podcast. And that's why we are recommending. You go get anchor. You can create your own podcast. And then like maybe have us on. His guests should definitely have us on our calendar. We're busy available on this date. Yes forget it. An anchor is the system we use an. It's got a lot of cool tools you can actually. It's kind of a one stop shop place where you can go. You can record. Edit everything even implement songs from spotify into your podcast and what. I like about the most to be. Honest is that it makes us money and i love money and it also is free which is kind of like you know you save money. I think that's the biggest thing is like it's free so you don't have to worry about pain and kind of fee or sign up for the and do everything for you so you can go. There they will distribute your podcast for you so you can be heard on spotify apple podcast and all the places. Your family are going to ignore you on. So it's everything you need to make a podcast in one place. Download the free anchor app or go to anchor dot. Fm to get started for free. Did we mention it's free and you make money you're gonna make money. Maybe your family look you. It's true it cuts to car. We're not going to be on your podcast income on kids now. Gather around rather long and sit right now. What's that smell with that. Sound your hit. The ground lamb fashion. Show your counselors both offered and mirrow cleo. Oh oh my god. I'm so excited about today. one we're in your alma mater. Had my heart was pumping as i drove up here. Today we are recording from the world. Famous up the venue. I haven't been back here in over four years. It's very exciting. Some of the greatest acts of all time have come through this new. And we're so lucky because of you merrill record here today with our special guests. Oh my gosh we have a good one. We have the director of artists and entertainment relations. Taylor guitars he sounds so fancy my friend. Oh yay yet godwin. I feel like you guys are going to hit it off and not just because you both are lacking upper hair on your heads. Tim is so cool and wonderful. And i don't know if we'll talk about this in the interview or not but something. That is so special about him. he doesn't have. Here's a cool job. But not an easy job because basically his job is working with musicians and artists and working with them on behalf of taylor guitars and also he's almost like a rockstar. Wrangler if what. I would call him. And it's hard to get rockstars and musicians to do anything let alone like sign. This pose this or do this. So i think the thing that got me excited about having this conversation with him. Was you telling me that he was also in a band. Yeah during the eighties. And then he had been signed by em. I which is like a huge record company and that now he works for taylor guitars which is a huge guitar company. Is you know it's up there with the fender. Only what are some other gibson marschall. These these big companies in taylor is right up there and they're doing a really cool thing as well so i'm very excited to talk to tim. Yeah let's get into the sleeping bag guitar shape sleeping bag. Oh can you bring your ukulele guys with ukulele. No oh let's give them there with tim. Godwin The last time i hang out with him you remember. We were eating pizza together. And we like the nicest fun conversation and hopefully we can repeat it all today for the told me everything that you told me. I remember exactly what we talks about like it was yesterday if you do not like north park or something called urban really. Why rivas meeting. Because we're friends. Yeah that's why they're shady business. You know what. I really appreciate that. You were one of the people that like. I felt like we developed a friendship. When i worked at the belly up like a true friendship and then i felt like when these are how i feel like. You know how people are your friends. Is that when. I didn't work there any longer and it was before i was back on the radio. It was like we still met up and continued our friendship. I had nothing nothing to gain from me or like. I wasn't merrill from this or that so it was like your friend. I know that's a sweet. Do you feel like you get used. But do you feel like a lot of people like associate you of like this. Is taylor guitars. Yeah does not does. It really bothers me. Because that's but that's who i am. You know to to certain people. Because that's what that's how i'm introduced to them. Do you feel like because it must be the kind of thing where people meet you and they want something from you though like. Don't you think. Because i feel like when she told me that we going to talk to you. When you're with this taylor guitars like tyler guitars. It's amazing that's awesome. Like i went and looked at the website always amusing things i was like. He must get just bombarded by musician. People pick up my guitar. Hey my daughter wants to play guitar. You help me out. You must get a lot of that shit don't you. Yes and no. I mean you're you're right. I mean there is a lot of like. I think if we were having this conversation back in the eighties and nineties. When that was kind of more of a thing you know like dude. I need to get to our. Because you'd have guys like just all do just walk to especially at namm. They'd walk two different guitar booths and go like whoever will give me a guitar. Guitar play really yeah now. What does nam. Because i'm sure that a lot of our listeners. Don't know what it is. Name is national association of musical merchants. Double am fun for anyone that has any passion at all about music. It's like the display of music manufacturers. And they've really bumped it up like a few years ago. I just i saw. Melissa ethridge play there and i feel like you guys have taylor has like the best setup convention center where they have booze like. Hey this is what we make. Check out our new staff mixing in new guitars. Whatever anything you need the industry of music. We're here to sell it to geneva. Tie that looks like they have that. They have that whole god. Oh yeah they have that. I don't think god yes. Thank god is it like dueling with the other. Is there a certain competition now with the other ties. No the other guitar companies. Because i feel like you know we won't name them but other companies also were like they have people in different wings of it and everyone talks about the comic con of yes. It's it's you know it's a friendly competition. It's friendly competition. Because i think we're it's a very small industry in that. Everybody kind of knows everybody and everyone has probably work at different positions of different companies. And you know is kind of like any niche business. Because it's not everybody plays music so it just kind of niche in that in that respect. But it's it's it's like each year you go to. It's like a high school reunion is what it's like you get to see your friend. You haven't seen all year and you know in in a chat chat got fat and then sarah has four kids like high school to high school reunion xactly. A heated share the same year as melissa ethridge. We were for real by the keyboards. Probably next to the guy selling piano tie and my boyfriend nudged me in. He was like is that and i look over ended. It is freaking stevie wonder playing like trying out the different keyboards for real him. Not a not a pretend him but soon enough. I think we recognized him. Like thirty seconds before. Did you see him that year. He's there every year. My gosh. i couldn't believe it and it was like kind of annoying like stevie stevie we get laughing. It's laughing at the fact that your boyfriend over to guy who was clearly a black man in his late fifties probably sixty s who is also blind. Playing a piano goes is. There's only one i really. I really almost fell to the floor. But no but you're absolutely right. I mean that's he's playing any draws a crowd and that's what's fun at name you see these all these all these type of musicians coming in playing but the funniest the funniest one is there's a tribute band a youtube tribute band. There's a guy that looks like bano. He looks like bano and there was a row in this guy showed up. Yeah and he's walking through the halls and people are going. Oh my god. Bonobos at nam. And i'm gonna like dude bano bano. He's not lying to anaheim. Even a guy had a keyboard tie. That's a dead giveaway. Oh my gosh. so you're a musician. You started at musicians institute right. Or that's where he studied. I mean i went there one. You know twenty. I moved out from colorado and moved to hollywood and did that for a year and started to charge like okay. I want to be a music. I want to be a guitar player. But then you've been you've toured with like big band air supply right so i was so i moved to l. a. And got an audition with air supply and it was like eight mid eighties and got the gig and was like. Hey this is my first. It was what was nice about. It was legit to tell my family. Like what are you doing to play with air supply because they can't compete if you tell your family your a musician. Yeah so when do you go into work. It's that whole thing and so this kind of made it like okay. So maybe this is a real thing you know. I mean air supply. That's a big deal eighties for sure. Yes yes it was a thrill it was. I learned a lot. You know was it. Like did i listen to them. No when i did when i got the gig. I bet you did could imagine at that time. They were like Headlining sheds or is it. Yeah we would do the shit. We didn't universal amphitheater two nights in a row we do the big sheds back east. And then i was kind of like just at their peak where they were playing that. And then i was with them for a couple years and they were really fun. Guys to work with really. They loved they love playing loud and taking chances on songs. And just you know you could be a real musician van. I have a question about air supply. Because i mean i think a lot of people hear stories about metal bands like motley crue and and all these things in the eighties right. Bon jovi the behind the scenes. What is that like for air supply. 'cause i mean you've seen it right. Ernie wild shit you saw in the back stages of air supply in the tour buses of air supply. There's smile the smile the size of your small right now. what. I'm what i'm thinking of is just laughing about is at one of the one of our guys that was our valet and security guy went on to work with guns and roses and end so the story was that it was pretty funny as gunson that he would tell the guys and guns and roses. You said there's a lot of girls that guns and roses but there were more at air so imagine so it was but what was funny. Is you'd you'd you'd look out into the audience and would see women from like teens to like their fifth wide range. In the funniest part was that you would see you could tell. The guys didn't wanna be there because they were their wives or their girlfriends drag them out they would sit there like of cross armed just looking at you because you're looking to the girlfriends wipers going crazy the ballot into their face and they're going like i can't wait to get out of here we're kind of what do you think that guy. What kind of music would he like. Is he more of like guns n. Roses that would be the opposite end of the wheel. Something i mean they were. They weren't listening to our supply. Yeah wow so. Do you think that your background in music helps you now with like just relating your job is for real relating to artists. Do you think that is makes it way. More easy for you. Yeah absolutely. I mean i wanna know how hard it is. It's not an easy life right. it's in all the things you have to go through and you've got to be a self motivator. You gotta wake up in the morning okay. What what am i doing today. I got no one's calling you to you gotta make everything happen for you know. And i've seen it from all all sides from working clubs spinning hours and hours playing in clubs and then doing something like that. And then later on i had my own ban on a small label in two or in an rv sleeping and truck stop parking lots. So that's sexy kind of kind. That was it was there. Were you would see some interesting things. I tell us i want to hear something. Yeah what's the weirdest thing you saw in a truck. Stop on your tour with your band. What was the name of your band farmer. Farmer we on aware records out of chicago and Why farmer you know we had had so my friend marshall altman's he's a producer in nashville right now. Great songwriter producer. And he's we had like martial law. We had red head. We had like a couple of other names. When we finally settled on farm farmer reap so whatever was our along my gosh. That's hilarious in in one of the the other guitar player worked at geffen in the mail room. The other guy worked at an marshall would work at capital listening to the demos so we would make these flyers in the guy john over it would go to geffen and at the end of the day he would sneak in there. Make the flyers from the copy machine and then send out the mail because we had mailers would use. Geffen hosted says the flyers four gigs. Well it's all coming from an official label right or at least we just have to pay for postage. That's amazing. I miss like record label days. Yeah that's what the that's what it was. it was just. We would play the troubadour a lot and we played Whiskey and roxie. You kind of did that whole whole thing but salt trucks. We're asking what's your craziest thing you saw or encountered so one that we did like three or four tours like in the truck so there was one where we ended up at. A you end up really bad motels like really bad. So we ended up at one. That was kind of a trucker motel because it was on the outside of town. It was cheap. Yeah and we could part the rv in like maybe couple would stay in the room and couple would stay on the. Oh my gosh be in. There was one. Oh tell there were just like truckstop hookers outside the window. Just you know looking for work you know in in truckers coming in and out and this is this is to take me home me out of here please. This is too bizarre and but the other during that one night one of the guys drummer was snored a lot. I mean just so loud and you can't all my god. I love this story because like with the craziest thing you saw any truck stop on your tours in a rock band. You're like well. The drummer snorter at the time. I can imagine that's all that matters so i got up and i took a because i figured i could nudge him because he's in the other bed so i took a hand towel in wash clock and can entice them together with dental floss. And i would take it. And i would wing it at whenever he would start snow her snoring but i had the floss i could pull back. Oh my because. I would need to repeat the toss this sweetest moorer. The nicest person on the planet watchlist. When i was too late. I didn't want to get out. You don't want to get out of bed and shake up. Finally he got out and went into the rb pissed off. He didn't talk to me for a while really well a couple days. He was pissed. Who of your music. Peers of that era have really done well like. I know that you've been around that kind of genre to like who who is still around and kind of kick in today when we did especially the farmer to we played with vertical horizon. So matt was still a friend of this day. You know we tour or together and do these like there would be like five bands on a stage. Play college towns small little. We'd play clubs like belly up in different different mainly from the midwest to the east and back then they were kind of an acoustic with two guys upfront. There was matt and key keith. I think was the other singer songwriter. And then i remember when they got the big deal. Because we're all on. The compilation aware had a lot of compilation. So we i remember he got the big record deal and it was like oh matt shaved his headings. In the middle it was like a girl group almost where they like positioned him different goes to the front of yes yes. He went to the front interesting. I was like. I wonder how that dinner went. Yeah i mean. That's what always gwen stafani always talks about. How like to fight to have the guys in the photo and have everyone be group instead of just like featuring her thing like you know that. There's okay there's a ban that's all here and then you got the the label in the marketing. Like we really want. You gotta be so hard so many personalities and feelings involved. It's all about just well. This is what's gonna make you money. Yeah so get out of the way. It's just you whatever. His name is from matchbox twenty thomas. Yes that's right. The put him kind of two band with his name. Yeah i mean you know. I won't go too much into this. Because our audiences want to hear it but live is my favorite of all time. I think we've talked about this. Oh yeah yeah. And when they they really broke up. Because i feel like for a while getting an ear of year in the main one that gets you should be getting paid more than it broke them up for a while then when they got back together it was like a dream come true but i think a lot of times people have at least twelve other people but i think they a lotta times bands label or the industry just grind a band. That formerly would be cohesive. Because while i wonder how other girls feel in. You know. destiny's child yeah. Of course you can go on and you have your own thing. One of my favorite bands is my morning jacket. Jim james does stuff on his own right. They do come back together. I think that's the healthiest way to do it. I mean he can still be his own dude and do projects. That aren't necessarily in line with that but like come back. who knows. I m sure it takes a lot from the band to be supportive of this situation. You know but. I don't know it's weird. I think that'd be a lot of pressure to put on somebody to be like. You're gonna be the face of this entire band now right. Oh would be broke. Yeah i mean. I i know with air supply way before i was it. They were a band. Yeah you know. And then the label went. It's just youtube. Yeah i was gonna say it's just two guys right but it started off is but i think all things like everything starts off with the best intentions in place right band together and this and that and then it then money gets involved. That's what happens. Yeah what if they tried to make you the face of their supply like right now right now just just your face your face on other t shirts but then he just says air honestly do really well. You know we should try that. We we should make up air supply. T show i facing overnight. We're making tee shirt like this right now. How great would that be. We're gonna in space air supply. What i started to talk page. Oh my god. You want to talk with what tim the original the face of air supply and i'll just do acoustic air supply numbers. What have we put him on oxygen. And then it's truly like just busted his achilles arison it. Because what i see on tiktok is. They're super mean to like people my people in their thirties. They're so mean to. But then it's like forty and up. They're like so kind to guess look. He's so cute. Yeah all these old doing love song. I was gonna say you're either but york so then okay so then tell us how you got to your position. Now taylor so taylor was started in nineteen seventy four by bob taylor at bob and his partner kurt. They started in lemon grove. Yeah lemon grove east county. San diego started the they ended up with their own money. Bought the american dream music store and they started building guitars out of there And bob realized he can build. Kurt realize okay. I kind of build. But i'd really want to sell and market so bob build. These guitars and kurt would get in his car and drive across america trying to sell these guitars and that's how it started and they built it up. They they own. They never took any. You know venture capital money private equity money in nothing they were able to build it slowly over time and build it into this great business and they build. You know the whole thing was. How do we build be consistent and building a quality guitar because handmade guitars are great but the thing is like one day you have too much coffee in your little heavy on the sander or next day in each guitars going to be a little different which is great. But bob was like. How do we make. We wanna make a great guitar consistent. That was his way brought to the to the industry in in. He's he's very open with. That community is really kind of getting back to them that communities really close we're all the builders they're all friends the all share ideas and they wanna make it. You know it's a very kumbaya moment because it's like if more people play guitars good for everybody. Sure and i love hearing about the sustainability taylor. Does you told me about that before. Like specifically picking trees in a certain area. Yes so i mean that was a big thing for bob to go. He we we source ebony. Cameroon africa he went over there years and years ago. And realize like wait there. I'm condensing the story by the way. Sure audience pretty long. We've got but basically went over and when we can they were like eighty percent of the trees were left to rot because everyone wanted the pure black ebony for their instruments but not all evans pure black a lot of has this caramel marking and beautiful marking in it in if it had it and the only way you could find out is cut it down and going. Oh this one's not pure black leave. It went in there and go. We need to use all the wood and then went in there and bought. There was a milling factory in there and he went with a partner. They bought it with his own money. Let's let's really us all the smart and we also want to keep replanting ebony and work with you know community you know. They also in the they also want to. They've been able to take some of the fresh water. Pipe down into the village. So they're really giving back to the And and us again using all all all the all the ebony and then from there. We're looking at both bob in andy. The new master builder who started ten years ago. Really revamping the whole sound and look of of taylor guitars. They went up to l. eight. There's a place called west coast. Arborists that they they basically have the contract plant and tear down all the trees are all the municipalities through california. Wow because you think about a tree. Sometimes she's after. Come down because our up rooting. Or they're whatever and they have the contract to do that. They went up there and they have a lumber yard in they went and thought. Well how cool would it be if we found lumber or would we could make into instruments and they found this shamal ash that was growing all through l. a. and so we they found out it made a great sounding guitar mahogany sounding guitar. So bottom to channel lashing. We came out series called the urban ash coup made from wood. Right in la. Wow because you look at guitar and there's comes from all over the world on a guitar you know. This is something i'd never even thought about. I'm sorry i don't know more about guitars but like that. Different woods make different. Sounds i think most people would just be like it's made of wood. Yes i get that but that the type of doesn't really matter but it does absolutely you just can't make it out of any kind of would. Yeah which is why you know you're sourcing these woods from all over the world tropical areas and you've got spruce from the north west and maple from the north to help for the top and for the back and sides and so there's a lot of different. Wow that's crazy yeah. That doesn't know that. No there's a lot of people which is i. Guess there's only so much knowledge you can really pump into your brain right and i just. I would love to be able to play the guitar. Because i mean. Come on who doesn't wanna get some random ladies on the side after an air supply chain. Yeah yeah but But like also like. There's only so much i've looked into about guitar. And the kind of wood that makes the type of sound is not something i knew. That's all you know what i mean. It's funny you say that. Because when i started at taylor i had no. I didn't think about that. I'm a guitar player. Yeah i didn't really. I just knew what i liked. I didn't know. Like when. I got to taylor i went. Oh i like mahogany back inside guitars. I did not know that. Special brewer like especially with dark rose kind of girls. Yeah this is my this. Is the guitar light because there are certain guitars. I like all had mahogany back and sides. I didn't i wasn't i. I wanna mahogany guitar. I just picked it up. The i like the way it sounded so i so i'm learning all the time to to me. It feels like you have one of those almost famous type of dream jobs like a young musician music lover. Because your a musician yourself but then you're working for a cool company but then you're director of artists relations like your whole day is pretty much working with musicians and still talking the lingo where you're not out of the corporate world. So what's a typical day. You're working with bands musicians managers all those things all of the above and other companies like late. Today i had a call. With the label in nashville. And then i had a call with an artist. Actually tolan shaw who. You saw him here right here. Yeah so he moved to nashville and he has a new manager that we got on the phone to talk about like. Let's let's look at this next year. He's got a new record coming out. So let's see how we can partner and help. Because taylor. Twenty bob has has this great theory and he calls it the belly up theory because when people are on their way up and playing the belly up we can talk to them but once they hit you know it's so funny that he wants to that he because he grew up here and we and he loves coming into the belly up in so we have this our belly his belly up theory that we like this when we can talk to people and there's a point where i'm not talking to bano until plays the billy until he comes to nam silly. Come no we were just talking about this. Actually because the belly up is like super world-famous and but it does house the kind of people who are just about to crossover or who have crossed over but still like playing those smaller shows and after it gets to a certain point. You're like yeah. Well i'm not. I'm not getting that guy you know. I run a comedy. Show here in san diego. And it's like once they get to a point where they're on net flicks and they have four specials. They're not coming to my small show really like see you later bye and making arena prices here so that's probably got to be the same. It is yeah absolutely so it's in. My day consists of that. It's been but it also deals with not the fun stuff like gotta deal of finance in your own department. That's boring staff. We won't rock and roll. We want rocket. Is there anybody that you sort of have a found and then before were anything and you sort of like push for them to be part of taylor as a musician. That's a good question. I mean there's artists that we started that. Over the years that i remember meeting before they became. Yeah like keith. Urban on that. Brad paisley because i was good friends with pete anderson news producer and guitar player for dwight yoakam in all all the bands. That was the way i would meet. Players is go. Hey you gotta come out this guy. He's from australia keith. Urban he's opening for us at the las vegas hilton. So i went to vegas and this was with my last job but it was before dwight. Yoakam there's keith. Urban onstage with an ex justin him in an acoustic guitar. And i was blown away real. I was like holy shit. This guy is amazing. Great showmen great guitar playing great voice. Great song it was like you just kind of you kinda. Get that sense of like okay. This the sky is going to do something. Yeah yeah in an early. On i'd met shawn mendez. 'cause he was online he was kind of a justin bieber and we noticed he was playing taylor and he'd hadn't really blown up yet but he was getting some buzz in this and that and so we started working with him and then we can't talk to him now because passed the bill. That was going to say there's a coffee shop. Was it okay. Jos jos jar. John shows mocha josias from curb your enthusiasm but like java joe's down an ob like ocean beach here in town and i was there for What would essentially be monday night. Lake open mic and this kid scrawny kid comes in. He's talking about already. Okay all right. We'll never know so he's still scrawny kid walks in. He's got a baseball cap on kinda shy My friend was actually on the open mic night. And she said oh you should you should stick around for him if he gets to go up like he's definitely somebody i think is great and he just a local dude living around there and Goes up and it soon. I mean he is soon as he opened his mouth. This thing i was like what the fuck is going on here. It was really like just energy. You could feel that. I'd never really felt before at that. Age of someone like this is going to be a star and it was jason hawes and he just like threw down to songs pulled us baseball cap down and then walk down. I was like what the fuck just happened as i followed him immediately. Back when there wasn't even facebook or any of that shit. I was like on his website and newsletters and Told everyone. I knew back in ohio. There's this guy's really great. I mean he's become very mainstream popular into still good. I'm sure i don't listen to him as much anymore. But at the time. I was like something just happened. That was magical. This this person in front of me is going to be something. He is any still magical. he's in live. He just i mean he's got such a beautiful voice in his playing style in his writings to everything about it's just it's it's an event to go see jason mraz now. He's san diego so like you get in there. And plug your taylor on him. Or what's going as taylor. Yeah so come on. This is a guy this guy that you talk to this. This is a guy we can't. He's because he's a good he's local and he i mean he started with. He's known bob. Taylor and andy longtime so. There's like a real family yeah dynamic. He's still once in a while he was doing like a yearly. Show here a little christmas show. And i don't know what type of green powder he's on or something but he would play for three hours straight no break and then everyone in the audience would be so tired like okay. We need to go to sleep at. It'd be like one more avocados superpower superpower avocado yuccas. He owns that avocado farm super. So who's been different that like. Who have you met that you're like oh either for better or worse. This person has surprised me on how they are That's a good question for better for worse right. Yeah and we understand your representative company. That you can't be like i like walter. Yoda's it's at stevie wander walks around bumping into shit all the time playing at nam and just won't stop. We'll give it up stevie we've heard that song plays some skittered. I you know the one. This is like a personal hero of mine. I got to meet in. Spend time with on the phone. And personally little bit with james taylor and he was like everything you would want him to be. They just got was. I was not 'cause sometimes you meet people and you're like man i'm kinda i wish i would've met them right. You know. it's like yeah best not have met him. And james taylor was like more above and beyond like just a cool dude. I mean he was smart funny way into technology and you could sit in sit and talk half an hour hour just on the nails. He was using to make his barn. A special way into details on stuff and He's got one of those talking voices that is just so soothing. Yeah listen to an interview with him. You're like yes. Good nice we baby j. Yeah so we are in the belly which is a really popular. Famous has a long standing. I guess history of great musicians coming through. What is there one concert that stands out to. You actually wanted to ask all of this. Is there one concert that transformed you. That was like stands out is like the concert that changed my life. Even for that moment sleepover. And i mean there's there's well i grew up in denver. Okay i grew up going to shows at red raw off. So i mean just read. Roxanne for theater is unbelievable. I was just thinking of. I'd never seen a show there. But i went there when it was closed just to walk in and see it because i was like i gotta come here. Oh the acoustics are supposed to be amazing. It's a mess. So what happens at a. Let me set the scene. So freaking magical and i was so glad years i got to bring my wife to denver during the summer in a buddy mind plays with sheryl crow and they were playing red rocks at their final. Two or honey. We're going to red rocks. See sheryl crow and it was like again freaked any shows magical there. So yeah because it's denver. It's going to open spring through summer in denver. Weather changes a lot. Like we'd get these big beautiful dark clouds roll in the late afternoon thunder lightning and then all of a sudden it will go away or might stay but always a red rock show. You're there you. We'd get as teenagers. We get there early. We'd get there at noon. We bring in beer and whatever and throwing frisbees and hanging out and listening to the sound checks and then you take a little nap and then all of a sudden it's late afternoon in then. It starts the thunder clouds. Come in and then it's like starts to rain. You like shit this is gonna suck and then all of a sudden the clouds part. The sun comes out you know in the lights. You know then it gets dark. The lights come on in the show starts. It's like this whole you get like this whole extra show. This nature show rock. That's what you get this whole extra show and listeners. If you don't know what red rocks is look it up just type in and look up what that amphitheater looks like because it is built into the rock. It's unbelievable. yeah. And i think obviously it's not comparable to red rocks. But i think what you were describing. Also there's an element in that of coachella. Two of you know you have like the desert sky. Participating like arcade fire is on and so even though the festival itself has gotten annoying. I think what has made it so magical with red rocks to is the the weather and the her back. Yeah so was the sheryl crow. Show the one that change do okay. But you just love that sticks in your head but no but the one that was. The one that changed me was seeing james. Taylor you know live at red rocks and in getting to meet the ban you know after soundcheck that always helps yet because they'd come out and hang out and go go like that's where i went. This is what i wanna do. Is i want to play in a band. I wanna play in a band play live. That's really done that. I feel like so. Many people have that moment when they're in their teens. I wanted somehow involved and then it just kind of gets away from them. But you are like living your roster dream now especially right now this is cast what about What about you okay. I know exactly what my way to to share. Okay so nine. Hundred ninety four in allentown pennsylvania. 'cause that's where i'm from. I had only been to see two concerts before one. Was sesame street. Live big bird and the second one was paula. abdul still love. Paula's my girl. She's kooky paula. But then i had just gotten mtv. And that's what i saw my first video of live of the i alone. I think and i begged my parents to that. They were coming through their tour. I think they were playing with soul asylum or something does and so i had. I begged my parents to take me to the concert. And they took me and it was really like the first song it was like my first rock band that i thought i really felt that kind of magnetism about ed that everyone talks about with seeing the frontman that you love. Or whatever and same thing is that i it really inspired me to that night. I went home and i remember. Just pouring through their cd notes and looking at it i was really sparked interest in me in the music business itself then like made me interested in record labels and music publicist. You know all these things that i didn't really know what it was before. One of the coolest things ever was because they were produced by jerry harrison talking to produce their first album and later on through the belly up i met their manager and then got to meet jerry for brief second so it was. We were talking about like dreams realize where i would lay on the floor and just memorize these people's names and then you know now in california i got to meet some of those people really taylor mole. That was oh my god. There was one time. Where like through a weird twists and turns. I got to know ed. And that has played here the belly up and there one time i was in new data tournament. We'll realize so. You know you eric. Because i tried to like get erica job with you wherever. I'm glad that damore got so. But i had i had flown to see ed in in new york because they were playing at some coffee place or whatever and so i remember like coming up to the venue and ed like merrill and gave me a big hug. I if you could've told the fourteen year old me would know my name and then yeah then we broke up and then life was hard. But but you're here to tell here. Sorry but yeah just that feeling of like when it maybe. Some people don't have live music changing moment but mine definitely was like from that show on. I was changed little merrill. What about you go well now talking to both of you guys met the people you know. I'm like well. I have met people and i will say this like a couple of concerts. That were really amazing. Impactful are one. Was she bashi. Do you know who that is. This japanese-american violence that plays like pop or rock music. But it's really great. It sounds kinda cheesy the way you say like that. It's like you know via last. But it's it's really cool. And i saw that and it was awesome because in the concert he jumped off stage. Came down like they played their after show. You know they're little the on court They brought the whole band acoustic way out into the middle of the crowd and hat asked everybody to sit down the floor which is kind of weird concert venue because people been spilling beer on the last hour but like still remaining. Second was jamie light. Del here at the belly general del. He's seen holy faulk and again he jumped off stage and there was only seventy five people in the show because it was right before he hit so it was like he was dancing with us. And he's holding the microphone to each of us to like sing a lyric or something and he held to my friend. Jeremy and jeremy was like rocket out in he gets the microphone in front of his face and that he doesn't know the lyrics and so he just like instead of like. It should have been a bad at that that it was like a boo bill and it was like. Oh my god it was so funny and jamie. Del looked okay and moved on to the next. That was amazing. But i have to say like there is one moment that like really has transformed me into loving the band forever. You know and it was back. When i was living in ohio. I had a friend actually an old employee of mine and she was like. I really wanna go see this band. They're playing in columbus which was two and a half hours away. Okay and i was like you know what i'll go with you so we go. When when i pick her up she's got rice. Crispy treats on a plate wrapped in cellophane right. And i was like what the that all these are for the band. This is some no name band right. So we drive to columbus after the show. She meets the band she waits and she gives embrace crispy treats and it's like this big moment and they were an awesome band And so i don't really think anything else other than this was a great band and she gave him rice. Crispy treats right years later. She calls me and she's like. Hey you're never going to believe this. She's like. I met the tour manager of that band and she invited me to go on a three three show tour from the bus from new york. 'cause she was living in new york city at the time so she got the tour with that band that she loves so much for three shows right. She's like you've gotta come see a show soon. Because like i'm going to know these guys and i was like yeah. Yeah yeah. So she goes on the tour. She ends up of falling in love with the lead singer. And then i mean at that point. I'd already moved. I was coming out to san diego but then they are dating now. And i'm like this is crazy. They came to visit because he happened to be having a show from the rock and roll hall of fame. Now he was doing these. Private show isn't one of them. Was here at the belly up and ended up being jim. James of my morning jacket So i was here. I was here at the belly up. I was back stage with jim. James and my friend. I had taken them to the san diego zoo that morning and just walked around with jim james. He is such an amazing guy. Such a wonderful musician he was. I asked him to do the the ringtone on my phone at the time and so he used this called harpsichord or omni chord or something and he played this little tin for my my life my phone. It was like he's such a cool guy and so he's he's invited me to a bunch of shows whenever he's come to town and i'm just like i try not to like act like it's a big deal. It's a huge deal to me. But i'm like. Hey do you wanna go see a show friend. You know like one of my friends. And then we go backstage drinking beers with like all these people and they're like what the fuck is going on you know. And that's pretty that's show definitely transforming golf haunting very random spoiler lip. Everyone spoiled stories stories. Along my friend was like had laser. Focus like merrill like i'm gonna make rice krispies with this guy and then ten years or five years later gonna be dating him weird shit but yeah. That's that's that's a really good story. That's that's insane wild. But i love how you built it up. Because we're getting sucked in your industry can like we did well. Luckily you didn't say well. Who's the guy anyway obviously. You're still in the tangible guitar. Where all the but like. What new things can we expect. Well they're seeking me till the secrets of taylor. Innovate sense as much as you can give away like what what's new and what's next of the biggest thing was the urban ash. Like i mentioned earlier. A really big thing for us. The other thing was when the pandemic hit see that now dated the podcast and we're in the endemic period. Right so coming on a year of it. One of the things that bob's always about innovation. And what can we do in when it hit in. We're going to like stop production and then we had to stop production to kat takes over factory there. Gsa minis and the baby taylor's and big part of our business. He was like okay. We need to think quick in. Come up with a guitar that we can make. It's inexpensive but american made because we have american made in the ones made in mexico american-made alcohol guitars are are real expensive. Yeah glossy guitars and he. He went. We need to find a way to making guitar. That's you know. Fifteen hundred. Eighteen hundred dollars which i know sounds a lot but bets inexpensive for a really nice made guitar five hundred three thousand dollars so he came up with the american dream which was based on the the shop that he incurred the original original nam came up with the american dream and has obviously other meanings for it to in came up with that The biggest thing the biggest news that you may have heard or not is that it became a a an employee owned company. That's a really wild awesome thing. Oh it's very emotional. Because we found out the week after we got back from break that bob and kurt the mandatory meetings guiding. Everyone's thinking we're candidates. Oh yeah you don't know what's going to happen and they get on and they're doing this livestream in they're talking and they're kind of telling their history and and it was. You could see the emotion for them to kind of. They spent seven years putting this together. Because bob has two daughters really. They don't want anything to do with that they're not they don't want anything to do with the business kurt that he doesn't have any children. They didn't want to have a private equity coming in destroyed after they're gone because they i mean anyone could have. Hey let's cash out. Let's go to the islands and see you later. Suckers right but they care. They really care about the employees that we're going to be left in the future. Employees in the future of the brand of taylor said. How do we in the end there. There've been pending plenty of other manufacturers knocking on the door to go like. Hey we would love to buy taylor ryo and they knew that that wasn't the right thing to do so they kind of went. How do we make this our employees. You know i. I would have been like. What does that mean. i would would've been everyone will be crying. It'd be good for us about what does that truly mean. Can you explain that. Yes so basic and e sop. It's like one of those things someone explained. Tina go. I get it in ten minutes later. You like what was that. Just forget what that was. But an e sop emplois ownership program prime mess that up to but anyway it's basically pension in so all its shares of stock. That's all you can't trade that you can't sell you. Can't you get you get x. amount depending on how long you been there in what you make in then. Then it's over when you leave or retire you get in if you've depending it's six years to fully vest and after that you you get paid out in increments of five years. Oh my gosh like a little bit in. Its does nothing with a 401k. And they really felt like this is a way to help. Our employees have a little because they know how hard it is to get ahead or i if we can with a little extra you know they they like. I said it was talkable. Bob incurred afterwards thanking them and he was emotional. It was like that meant a lot to them. And then you have people that are more invested in the company which is interesting. Because that's the thing. I brought up with him. I said you know what i think is true with a lot of taylor employs is that i didn't need that because i already have that passionate and care when i for my job. Yeah that when. I come into work but what it did is kind of gave me a little extra spring in my step. Yeah know that little extra little. I'm a part time part owner of yeah and you take your job more seriously on how how to come up with new ideas how to make things better how to work like harder. Har- also make you think outside your world like a decision. I make her do right now. How can affect finance or affect you know repair or where other departments like now. We're all working together to kind of do this right. So that's amazing. You know before. I just thought you were the director of artisan entertainment relations. But now that. I know you're an owner. I'd like to talk about getting that free guitar circle now. Don't listen to him if he makes you feel us me before. He was just like a guy but now owner cars here in this room with us. You can pull some strings okay. Where can people find you as a human if they're interested in you. Don't tell us your address. That's that's not what we're capable courts tiktok yet. You know what's funny. I did start. Because i'm because i'm trying to understand it because sure with my job is the great thing about my job as a keeps me like trying to keep listening. Sure like my kids. When i'm in the car it's like okay. Let me hit what you're listening to and in trying to understand tiktok i'm gonna do tiktok dancer. I'll i'll read silhouette dance. Maybe it's my daughter was trying to get my wife and i like come on. Let's do a dance on their and try these little hand. Golly okay. i'm not doing music always. Oh no no no. I know tiktok i love it so Yeah so i am on instagram. What tonga okay. Because i started doing that because it was a name. My brothers in tonga forever. Is that well. We used to like king of the hill. You know king. we'd throw each other. Whoever would throw each other off the with try to throw each other off the bed right and whoever remained was king tonga. So so when i talked to my they still call me tonga tongi for short. That's amazing so that kinda stuck. And then later i go. This kind of this is good. Because they don't know who what tonga put out. that sounds like a band. Maybe maybe your new band is wrong. You know that's good. You know what i think. This could be the covert ban. Tom king tonga is easier hard to say the truck no tongue. What tongo tongo truckstop hookers made. Your band made you a logo. Actually we have t shirts. It's just your face with a new business. We're part owners tim. You're the best. I believe so much. Thank you guys for calling me. Yes of course by years okay. Oh thank you nice. Tim is so cool sweet comfy. I know i'm feeling in this little sleeping bags. Team is a good example that we can do some g. rated episodes and still have so much fun. You know he. I can tell he is one of those guys that i could sit around and have a glass of scotch talk for like days about like interesting things that have happened to us. Yeah i really like talking to him. Super nice guy. I could sit around with both of you guys for like two and a half hours to pick up something i would say our i would say an hour. I don't think you have more than an hour in you. I've seen you. That's perfect. Because now i feel tired. Thank you so much tim joss. You're awesome yeah and lecture smile. His little his eyes tell a story weekly story. I think we're both in love with him. I mean you more than i. There's only been two guests. That i haven't walked away completely in love with you know guys. I don't often make these jokes But after we record with him. I was like So can i get that Guitar deal. I don't even play so i don't give a shit but i didn't make it. So yeah he said he said yeah. I'll get you that guitar and made a joke said well until you do. I'll just be over here playing this extremely tiny violin. He liked that. I also thought it was funny after we went through and walk through. And i'm like oh my gosh. I can't wait to see everyone it's like. It really is going back to college. And then i've been gone for so long. It's all new people working there like no one. I remember when i worked there. People would come up to me and be like i worked here back in the day. Gay adds a new regime bids like no one cares now and so now. I'm personally who. Yeah exactly what a good time. Thank you belly up for letting us crash your party and checkup. Check out all the things. They're going to start doing concerts again soon. Yeah and in the meantime valley up live is a place that they have a lot of recorded music. And you can listen to some of my own podcasts. There they still have that up. I think and they have cool belly up shirts and lots of merch so we love you belly up until next on. Thanks so much for being here. Good bye this episode. Camp by shit show was produced by bo hubbard and miracle. It was edited by beloved and the theme song was composed and sang by your friendly camp director me. Pb and j. If you've got a question or you want to be the next camper the week email at campfires should show at gmail.com. Say hi to bone marrow on instagram at campfire shicho. Please don't forget the rayton views on well. Kids have time to pack up the camp. Put out the fire. The don't you worry we'll see you soon. Another episode up at camp bash same tight.

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Bald Bryan Is Back!

Alison Rosen Is Your New Best Friend

1:22:37 hr | 1 year ago

Bald Bryan Is Back!

"Hey everyone. Hi. Hello. Welcome to another episode of Alice. Greg, what are you doing here? Hey what do you mean? What Alison? Where do you come from Brag I came from the world of childish and I just WanNa make sure that your listeners know bed year just is wonderful on the on the podcast. What if they don't have kids donate donate. A lot of our listeners actually tell us they don't have kids. We talk about sex we talk about all sorts of dirty staff but also parenting. Yeah. So the checkout childish new episodes, every Wednesday wherever you listen to podcasts. Spray Hey everyone. Hi Hello. Welcome to another episode. Of Alison. Rosen is your new best friend. I'm very excited to welcome my old Pal Brian Bishop Aka Bald Brian to the show you know him as the author of shrinkage, manhood marriage and the tumor that tried to kill me about his battle with a brain tumor. He also co hosts, the film podcast, the film vault, and you probably know him. Most of you best know him as the beloved sidekick and sound effects. Guy, from the Adam Corolla show a gig he has been that's how I know him and that's he's been doing that for how many years Brian? The radio show was started no six and I took over as position in early Oh six. So there you go early Oh, six too long time. Hello Welcome. It's so nice to have you back. You've been on a few times but it's been a while. This is the first pandemic appearance on my show you've made. Pandemic appearance I've met in any show aside from one that employs. So great to see you and how how is the pandemic podcasting experience Trudeau well, I wanNA experience a turning your anyway Leo your real life. But how is the pandemic podcast experience? Going it's. It's I would just give it an. Okay. Sort of serviceable, right? Yes. We can paste this together I. was very passionate. I would say it was one of my passions. Would not do remote interviews. I've been pitched people in the past like really good guess where they're like, Hey, would you be interested in having someone on your podcast and I would say, yes okay he's in New York and then I would say, Oh, I'm sorry I only do in person i. just have a thing about really only wanted to do in person. So this has forced me to kind of get over that. And I do still have shows excuse me. I do still have shows where I am reminded why I don't like it but I'd say all it's going like better than I expected when I realized I was going to have to do it this way. Sure I understand that. Yeah obviously. The show an old network of producers and technical people and law support for the film ball, which is pretty diy which you've been a guest on. We'd love to have you on again. immutable. We'd do in person guest. We haven't had a guest. You may have been one of our last. We haven't I guess in a long time how? Well obviously a the. Number one before that I don't know we just we never we never saw much of a boost from guests. So it was always like who do we want to talk to the Alison? Rosen's the world or even like Dave Dad Michelle or like people who are your friends with or interesting? We can report with it was never really get a big guest together big numbers. It was more just who's like a person we'd like to suck movies, right? So it was never. Go out on a high note after me. I needed you. You're the you're. The. Base. The, the establishing shot as you were. Shot and then we'd know so we had. A high mounted. Never really served US quote unquote I mean in terms of like how what held most people look at guests but at the same time, we're also lazy. We. Probably. Just never prioritized it and we realized now like I was, you're probably have more guests. So when and if this pandemic comes to an end, but it also affects us because doing the shows remotely because my health situation Anderson's very conscious about that and he's like. I don't WANNA come around. You know any unnecessary risk we can make this work on around which we have. But it's it's reminds us that has just a little bit worse. It's not quite as good. Yes. Exactly and it's like if you are only listening to the remote ones I, think as long as the audio is decent enough. I think that you're like, yeah everything's okay. But then if it's like just turning the color up a little brighter when it's in person, it's funny I never. Sounds funny coming from a sound effects guy everyone thinks I'm more technical than I. I. Don't know what I'm doing over here. Know what buttons do I know? I want your urine. You saw behind the curtain I never cared as a listener about audio quality. To some pretty rough podcast that were. In terms volume qualify but if the conversation was interesting enough or the content was interesting enough I, you get over that ship pretty quick. Little Jarring but like twenty minutes in you forget your your even listening to like sub par quality audio. I. Know. I. Realized as well. I think that. I have become a little bit of an audio file where like all listen to something and like it sounds a tiny bit processed what's happening and I don't think any and I recognize that I don't think anyone else would care. It's just me but I I noticed like something sounds slightly unnatural. What is that? Sign. Of outside of like a really bad echo or like some phasing like I just can't listen to this distracting I'm very forgiving when it comes outta unquote. Listeners are I think most listeners would rather have a great guest who doesn't sound as good then like a super wonderful sounding not interesting guest every. So it's not just you. It's everyone. Thank you for remembering my signature segments do you still do? That yeah just blotto one. Oh, that's what is it do you remember our do or Doodoo later let's you know what I'm GonNa play the song and I'm GonNa make you do it now even though we might also do it later. So hang on just a second. A. Done. Is just. Everyone. Okay. What's yours I? Don't know if everyone feels the same as me maybe suspect a lot of people do but I was unloading the dishwasher last night I hate unloading the dishwasher. For some reason I, just me US I don't want to do it. I Will Beg Christie to do it or Hoffer five days until our housekeepers come you know one Serb month or whatever it is. But I enjoy loading the dishwasher and it's almost the exact same amount of work. There's almost no difference I I'll load the dishwasher after a big dinner party or whatever, and it's like this though I'm enjoying this whereas unloading it, which is practically the same effort for some reason, I can't do it. I don't think that's just you. It is not me though I would prefer to unload then load something about like remiss our window allison I know. Damage Christie, and Danielle about the power unloading loading couple weeks. I know. Man Our dishes would be put away so fast I, know. What is it? You dislike about it because you're seeing? It's almost explicable I don't. Because logically, I literally thought. This is no different than like loading the dishwasher for granted us a little time. It's not. The same activity going forward and backward though because to unload it, you're taking it out of the Dishwasher, and then you're having to put an cupboards in various spots, storage spots. That's the to me. The difference does under percent true. But in terms of actual effort expended a lot of the time most of the time the dish needs to be at least rents because it's got some big chunks, you have to do some extra. Dash. Dash in the dishwasher it's like now this needs to be rinsed or addressed in someway. You, know what? One of my household things that I absolutely hate doing? And my husband I'm surprised she hasn't left me over this. You know you're supposed to clean the lint out of the dryer. Trap. Lexi, I love you that you do. No I. Don't love to it but I do it every time because I want to keep my dryer from exploring. Yes, this is. This is what I've heard this before. I do it. I don't know every now and again. which is, does curries favor with my husband is every now and again code for never know it's like. I don't know every like ten times. He does it all the heat has it often so he's picking up my slack, but let dresses also drives more efficiently at twenty. One of the reasons reduced because Christie and previous. Employment many years we got work for farmers insurance and one of their as she was in the J. A. Simmons don't. You know there was that whole era when I was really popular and one of the ads she worked on a you visited the set. was is rare because she you're behind the scenes person, but it was dryer fire was the name of the ad and how you should claim the Lynch trae and your dryer because those can catch up the little lint can catch on fire and they had like a flame thrower they had like the the fire Marshall there or something because. They're using open open flame thrower onset. You ought to have certain radio as wow. I. Didn't see that hat I perhaps I would be more diligent about cleaning the stupid trap I just don't like it. You want folding laundry. I more of a like. So when it comes to socks and underwear I, just I realized you could fold or you can just stuff it in the drawer smush it down. which is. What I can't do that but I wonder understand that can be done it can be done. Well, I'll do it. Which? IS E. Zoos will not allow me to do that mind. Do they prevent me from doing other things but they totally allow me to do that, and then most of my other close I hang there's not a lot of stuff that's folded the kids clothes I do fold though and I don't really mind that. I think guys have more folding clothes than girls general thinks out out imagine so but. Only laundry ethic because my number one least favorite Mike. Mundane. Chore Like Worse Than Unloading The dishwasher on account like floors and shit like that because he washed her floors wants everyone to three month whatever it is there's not not as often as folding laundry. How often are you washing your sheets? Once. Every two weeks. That's kind of a schedule that we're on. Mostly because we we've achieved a status in our life now where we can have a housekeeper. Twice a month. So we stripped the bed we actually have washed sheets and dried them everything, and then we just put them back on top of the bed and they're just make. So really we're washing the sheets. So you're still having someone come to have you have you had someone come to house throughout this No we held off a little while at the height of Covid and then. We've actually not been here almost every time they've come crazy I just realized that because we've been doing a lot of weekends at Christie's family's place in. Belbow island. Number one just to get away. Change of scenery. Otherwise you're gonNA drive insane but really mostly I've been so sick over the last since June. That's actually start. I think when we brought our housekeeper back. I've been so sick since June starting this new medication I just literally. We need the help of go out Christie's parents and their end up being sort defacto babysitters. Extra hands on deck for Friday and Saturday and Sunday. because. We can manage during the week with school and whatnot but like on the weekends, we definitely need extra help. Yeah. So what's been going on? How are you doing truly none of Your Business? Would you rather talk about sheets? I feel I've. I've exhausted my thoughts on sheets. I'm okay I'm tired I'm really dire. Tessa. owner. Let's. See how to my friend Alison. My friend Alison. Was Very? Nice. How many kids do you have to? She has two kids high tasse she can't hear me. By. My Gosh. So Tessa. Show. A high. Tessa. Oh. You've met before arriving greg she was a baby probably I've never met her. Crazy woman. Now you met Elliott you. Have over at your place. I've known your second child, right? That's Ohan and he so Elliott's three and a half and Owen is one and a half. Oh, and had her birthday right just days ago. Yeah. Happy. Birthday tests a very exciting. It was a very, very abbreviated birthday party as you can imagine, but it was actually up it was actually. We invited a few. A few I think we voted for families and their kids death from daycare down twelve vocals on the beach. Place and just it was on the beach. The whole thing just run around and not have to interact closely with people to families came and it was perdue is a tiny little social distance birthday party for well that's great. So did they they don't live down there right? They have a house down there or do they live there now? The not her parents live in Westwood in and Same House Christie grew up in And they're the. Christie's. Dad's parents or grandparents bought the house belbow Nine, hundred, seventy, nine for whatever you know whatever house cost that much. And Just, kept to the grandparents passed away a few years ago the since I've been married Christie and now it's just a family's house. So I was answer your question. Yes. Horrible daughter. I'm. I'm feeling okay. All Things considered I'm tired I'm really tired especially because as we record this, I am. What's twenty? One one is five. Sixteen days into a twenty, one day cycle five days left on this medication until I got ten daybreak, which is fantastic. I usually feel pretty good. Really good actually during those ten days. But this is towards the end of the cycle. Fatigue. Eating a weird place with my. Diet because the medication to causes weight loss, but also causes loss of appetite. So even if I'm trying to shove food in my face which I'm trying to do. I don't I don't feel like it but I do it anyway. But I don't gain weight even though I'm like you know overeating fat and protein. I never drink coffee in the afternoon, but it's delivery system for like. Cream. Heavy, cream. Just, more calories more. Fighting an uphill battle but. You got to do it. Yeah. Do you have no appetite. Is that what it is? Yeah. I mean occasionally if I've gone long enough without food, but that's not a good plan. Obvious. You're trying to put on or even just maintain weight right? So I I ended up. Eating a lot when I'm not in the mood, which is a strange place. Because I, Love Food and I love good food. Food and it's you know I have to. Pander back half apply a plate half all food sometimes like I did my best that's ironic as much as I can eat. So. You had been. I want to catch people up. But if people want the full story, they should definitely get your book shrinkage, manhood marriage and the tumor the tried to kill me. When you were I I when they first discovered brain tumor, you given six months to live, and then you beat it and you were on, you were doing it. For years, right? Yeah. It's it's an over I. Mean I appreciate the the the the rosy outlook believe me I do. It's a bit of over-simplification. I mean I guess I did sort of beat eternally beat my expectancy or the frog knows. The difference being to resign operable so I'll never be ready. So to speak, it will always be there. And for many years nine ish. At Bay for I successfully. With. How to put this the initial treatment? worked and beat that prognosis obviously. I'm still here this is two thousand nine that I was given the frog. NOCES. And then for many years I was on this drug called a vast in. What sort of kept my tumor day? and. So what happened that year now back in treatment? A A series of unfortunate events I actually do you know the cells and I? I had a small stroke down. Maybe was. May Two thousand eighteen let's two and a half years ago. Wow. Woke up one morning and my. Left arm was incredibly weak. Like could barely move kind of thing and I was like, I sleep on this wrong or what? What happened right and long story short we kind of observed it and we didn't know what happened and Blah. Blah Blah and eventually. My doctor is. You know he had initially mentioned like it's possible. You had a small stroke and eventually yeah pretty convinced. You had a small stroke. Let's take you off the avast and that could be contributing to the blood vessel inhibitor. So that could be contributing to be safe. Let's take you off the vast and CEO goes. And then in January of this gear. Twenty twenty. I was I had an MRI scheduled them. All right and the doctor saw kind he described become a shadow just. A consistent. MRI, the image is the same month to month or got. You're willing even you're changing in your favor is good thing but any change towards the other end is just you sets off those red flags for doctors at the monthly. Every. Time when I was getting every four six months. Years ago. But yes, bimonthly your every couple of Africa once. And so. Yeah. At that point, he's like I think we should put you back on a round of. Traditional Chemotherapy Seminar and I was like all right. Well, I don't. I. Didn't really enjoy my experience on that but I understand what the situation is. So better safe than sorry las nipping in the bud and then a few months after the after I was doing that. Once you know you. You follow the timeline from January covid becomes there were all locked down. In June rhetoric Christy's birthday. Day they had another Mariah and they're like, yeah, there's there's some thickening or Andrew Tumor You know this, this could be the beginning of something. So let's take a more aggressive approach. Put you on this new medication called Sta Varga which is sort of a newer updated. Does essentially the same thing a little better. I was like all right. Well, give it a shot and it's four four pills a day. And it is the side effects are debilitating. They are really rough. Literally from my head to my does when I took. God I took my first. First round of still Varga right after Labor, day like early June. And I was actually I got some Sun that we can. It was hot and ally and. A horrible rash broke out of my head horrible sun exposure rash due to the medication, of course, and then. One of the main side effects is the bottoms of my feet are really painful a very tender. It's almost like. They're not actual blister that feels like they are. Not. Blistering. Skin is very sensitive. But treated every night with like alcohol or some sort of like. Steroid cream but even still it's extreme wearing slivers right now around the house because it's extremely painful. Tips fingers like paint falls literally had to tell. Side. Well does suck, and so we went to the. Doctor for another regularly scheduled MRI. month. Maybe the month before it was the month before. So two months ago and The Net net is he Dr Rudnik was like more good news medications that working your your latest. MRI looks like significantly better. which is huge and mean has a real quick turnaround. Goodness you know that doesn't always happen, and so we're like, that's great. Here's the problem. The medication is killing me knocking me out I. I'm useless to around the house and my family like I'm suffering, you can hear the my voice raspy. It's almost like the first side effect that comes around when I start a new cycle my voice will sound Great Wall for ten days, but it sounds like this when I'm on medication your modeling career. Your. Scout modeling. On hold say over this GonNa say it's on hold and doctors. Well, let's the medications working. So we have a strong incentive to keep taking it. Let's take you down from four pills to three and see if that kind of improves things and it's made a noticeable difference at is certainly not stopped everything I sell at the side effects. I, still the sore feet. Throughout the. Fatigue But it's all kind of dulled a little bit I think sense. Yeah. So it's it's it's an improvement. Hopefully, this dosage continues to work and you know my goal Madonna turned might not see eye to eye and we have to talk about this is to be done with this. You know by the end of the year, which was the initial. Six months of this and six months would be getting of of December. So that's the that's the goal. That's what I'm aiming towards. So do you not have to go in for an fusions of staff? Know they're oral their pills do unlike of aspirin which wasn't infusion I would go in for two three three and a half hours every couple of weeks or months or whatever it was Yeah. This one is an oral pill that it hit first thing in the morning you have to take on an empty stomach. So I usually take want to get up to go period in like six in the morning, and then you'd have breakfast like an hour and a half later Wow. So you have to take four and now three pills throughout the day you have to be trying to make yourself eat, but you also have to take them on an empty stomach through the good news is that I can take all three pills and sometimes first thing in the morning. So yeah, my diet then becomes. More or less. Manageable right. I would be an interesting wrinkle Bickham during the day right. So The small stroke is the only side effect that your arm became week. Yeah I mean. Martin was already weak. So from week to weaker thankless Gone Dr Week. Is improved to week. I've overall muscle atrophy right now just because I'm not active and the medication does that and also just tired it's hard to I still go to physical therapy twice a week but it's just hard to really put in the work. You know you get out of it what you put into it the again, the goal is to be off the medication by the end of the year and really throw in some way put on some bustle and stuff starting in January right? How are your spirits during all of this? I mean this is that's pretty rough. Yeah you know me I'm. Dead Side Yeah, I'm dead to the world cold unfeeling rebinding but yeah, but era Ghent, but also determined. Dare You I. It's only funny when I say. I actually don't think of you is super arrogant. You referred to yourself that way. Myself as SMUG. Crossover those across but not exactly the same thing but the spirits are okay. It's depressing to not be able to contribute around the house especially with Tessa and just things you know what? I? Mean like taking the trash out hard because I have to walk around the house and so that's hard of my feet. So it it sucks I look forward to being able to you know be the partner I'd like to be in this. Relationship in this family. Christie is amazing because she picks up the slack and she's dutiful and does all the things to be done but that's not fair. I mean, I don't relish the idea of her having to do most things right? I wonder how much that's a gender role thing because I and maybe this is just me but I feel like if I were going through that and I couldn't help out around the house, I would not be something that kept me up at night because I'm an asshole interesting. So I. Don't know maybe I don't know. I've never asked you. How did it work with first of all hope your mom and your daughter out do okay. Oh, they they are. They are hanging in there. Thank you. Okay. Good. Because I was GONNA ask really embarrassing if they have one of the passed away. How much is Tesla aware of what's going on? That's a good question. So she is funny because she's Everyone says their kid smart pursue like pretty smart for term four year old like she understands that we can't go certain places like school or the park or whatever. Because of the Germany's and you know we we have to put it in terms they understanding. So. Alive Wuhan, Tessa. And so She she she. Has a grasp of what's going on and then as it pertains to me in my care. That's one of the things that's really important to me. Is I don't want her to come out of this with like long lasting impressions of data sick or daddy can't do these things although she does understand that she'll. She's a four year old she wants to climb she wants to play. She wants to hold my hand climb up on me what she does all the time but. There's like today at this point, I can't do that hurts my hands I`Ma strong enough frankly, I dropped her, and so you know test a sorry Kit Daddy can't do that right now I'm not strong enough because of your medicine I'm like that's right the medicine right well, but then I always try and follow up with some version of but don't his medicine. We're GONNA do so much climbing you try and put it a little positive spin on it because I do plan on recovering I do plan on getting stronger and. Putting on much need to wait and being able to play with her and stuff. So. Drinking the positive. But at the same time, we're not giving it a secret from her. She understands that Daddy's taking about us in the that actually gets mentioned a lot like Cristiano Get up with her at like. Six thirty or seven am comes in because some cereal and then she wants either wake me up or she's being loud and I guess Tessa. Danny Usta sleep a little more jobs because of the medicine like the shrike at the medicine. Has He's pretty well adjusted like she went in for her four year old appointment for the doctor and they poked her give shots but we call them pokes. Three or three different shots of the same day and she didn't like it but she wasn't a mess like she was like can be over now. Has Christie doing. I'm sure she's very str- I'm no she's very stressed out work officers running a huge team at work and that's an everyday. You know full time job doing from home, but on top of that. I I it's I guess it's a fortunate situation silver lining that I don't. I don't need the help that I needed eleven years ago when I was going through chemotherapy and radiation I couldn't get to the bathroom on my own. I couldn't walk. You know what I mean like I needed constant help these days you know the side effects as Shitty as they are are mostly limited to fatigue and. Lack of appetite weight loss the things described I'm able to do most things for myself. Now, I can't do a shitload for like the family Francesa God for God. Willing in Christie but. The, hopefully, that day is coming. Yeah. I remember when you guys guys both came on my show around the when the book came out you both on my show. Do you remember? Those apartment no. This was when I was still this was at the studio O.. Yes and she was telling a story about cleaning up your poop. That happened. Twice. So. Now now you're you're able to handle your on Pope I may want to clean up my old. Come a long way well. Yeah feels like full circle but really not it's more of a half circle able to tend to mess. Oh and now I'm going to ask a question that I hope isn't. I hope. Well, we'll just see what happens has charlie. OHR Charlie's good. Old He's slowed down quite a bay leaves even more than a used to, but Charlie is a A trooper man he's got so got him in two, thousand ten, who's a year and a half old. So He's about eleven and a half. Yeah, and that's getting to that age where dogs his size you now tend to expire but God willing we'll have we'll have another good. If everything goes well good like four or five years with them. But the cool thing is I don't know how you're a little fuzzy one is with the boys but Charlie and Tessa finally reach equilibrium I saw when she first came over the hospitals a baby he was interested he with sniffer. Sleeve near her, you know the the dog thing and then when she became mobile. Crawling and not really in control of finder motor skills she would lunge at him he snapped at her all the time. became the thing that guy. So keep testing away from Charlie and now that she's four and she's pretty physically mature. Control the doing now they're like best buzz I charlie like falls asleep on her we got our bigger. Peretti psyched. Yeah. Twin bed. And Charlie will often fall asleep on the bed with her. Weight Yeah. She she takes liberties and messes with him like she'll put her like old like. Charlie and she'll I dress look he's a wizard or something. Oral B.. One over your. I don't know like that Yoda. But only tolerates it. He puts up with it and then he'll health cuddle up next to her at night. So they've reached a good place. Yeah Wendy is surprisingly patient with Elliot. It's also a good breed for for kids to you. Can Travel area if there whenever you see those lists of like good family dogs dogs that are good with kids they say cavaliers. Yeah because. Like they can go up and and get near her food bowl and she just let them which I'm always surprised by she. Oh. House or anything Charles Never GonNa food aggressive facts Tessa now one of her favorite activities is giving Charlie's food and she's like she watches US questions he goes sit centrally set. To give them a chance to sit down yelling over and over. Yes. Yes. Elliott leave it when you leave it. Like that command is sort of unrelated to what Wendy's actually doing. A. So. This decision to get the big girl bed because we are sort of on the precipice right now Elliott is in a toddler bed, which is the creek probably what you guys had like the Crib Mail address and What made you decide to to make the jump because I think we hold is Elliott now three and a half. Yeah we give it against us for fourth birthday. So it ended up being just kind of the right time when everyone's tall. Tall forty. Two inches or something something right now like she's a tall drink of water. She was growing out of the bed that was kind of you know fate of complete right there. But also Christie was kind of getting I. Think Covert at something you do with it being locked down as we are more or less. I think she really wanted to Redo a room. So she took great pleasure in finding the bed ordering the bed We got a little, not a canopy, but like a little hanging laced with that goes over the bed lights up. It's not the candidate like four post bed hangs from the ceiling on a on a hook hook out of cascades down over her bed. That sounds like almost like mosquito netting. The Wall it's a Chris Acute version in the -squitoes. That's a very good way to put it and just really into star wars right now. How how are you? Yeah we all got awesome and so we themed it She has like. Star Wars per se. But like her sheets are stars on them, the glow the arm. Yeah and the the cascading on this as you call them comparison lights up like actually you can a light it's built in who had glows that sounds very outer outer space kinda room speaking of things that are so cool. 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I don't know where they're coming from all of our doors are closed this Mr they're congregating in here perhaps because it's put us weird there there are literally on the laptop. On food or anything like they almost just want to escape they have no interest in the food maybe they want to be on the show. Featuring Baldwin and flies. Yeah. If you is would like to see the floor other right now, you can't see the flies. This video will be at YouTube dot com slash Alison Rosen I have been uploading the video to my Monday shows of late. Please go there. Please make sure you're subscribed I'm basing myself worth on that subscriber number. So help me not walk into the ocean. Okay. So I have some questions that listeners sent in I also. Yes I also. Understand that you are sitting on a trove of my old drops which I haven't heard in so long and I cannot wait to hear some of them nobody has. Heard that in so long I know. There's been a more well I dunno shows drop them in occasionally or any there on top of your mind you're like I'd like to hear that one. Now there's no specific one. I just like to hear some I just would like to go down memory lane. Let's just here a few and then we'll do some questions and then let's hear some more. Let's. See will be here. I have a very small penis. All right. Off The air. I go from zero to Horny two. Point Five, beers. Remember that. Eat, more. Pussy classic. They everyone enjoys the. I, love when you finger me in the doorway, Lick my tied asshole Blah I must have had a Muslim voice member. At some point. Unicorn. Duty. Audio quality was not great back. Then you'd like you've been challenge box man, Oh my God i still tell that story. was that so I don't remember at all. There was this guy that I had a crush on. In school and I remember he looked at this other guy at lunch who had been eating watermelon and he said to him that, and then he ought my crush on him kind of went away when we were standing outside the art building. And he hawked lougee onto a plant and then dangled off the plant. But Anyway, anyway, I found it. So he was this. Voice. He was very attractive to my eyes surfer looking. Guy. And guess what he does nowadays because I looked him up. I'm guessing you're saying guess what he does because there's nothing related to surfing or being meathead is he like work in politics or government as only know? It is something related to all that he's the CEO of an energy drink company. On. Brands not amazing. Plus chicken with him. Real quick look like given challen box man. I got he sounds the same. Take them teeth out when you suck my Dick Ho, that's actually. I wish I could remember what that was for a news story. Well, I was quoting someone but. Now. It was someone had tweeted some hated somebody or. Three Ringtone Java for sale and. I. Think that's that's one more. Well. Yes means. Yes. Good advice for everyone. Do you have my? My Guitar Solo I should find it. Oh. Yes. Here we go. Why don't we have? Dave Holmes on. Guitar. Dave Hell Dave Hell yes. I wonder if I still follow Dave Hill on twitter, he as he livesey well does he? Yes. The Algorithm pop him up in my tunnel I have news for you. I actually just had him on my Thursday show, which is that when I have the group show. He got banned from twitter for making Miller? Yes. So that's why I don't see his tweet that's why his account still exist, but he is banned for making like release. Stupid. Your mom jokes to trump supporters hill to remember the stress or he's making a lot of your Joe Yeah and they banned him for that. And he has such a bummer. He was like my he and Chelsea Peretti where some of my favorite people to follow on twitter tweets, crack me up so much and now he's gone and he's just on instagram but he said that his life is actually better and he does not feel that he's missing out on anything not being twitter. Yeah. You're not going to see that well a nice round. Have you watched the social dilemma? I have. As much as most people. Okay. So actually that's funny. You mentioned that because I was sitting at his very seat discussing the social with Anderson on the film vaults no more than twenty two hours ago on our episode that comes out this week by the time bureau audience. Here's this maybe it's already out. So check out the film vault. Party top five. Top. Five fictional TV shows like in movies like. Vic. Good. Todd. But we talked to the social network or the social dilemma. While it was A. Interesting. Insight into that world and into that sort of phenomenon of social media taking over your life I had multiple jobs within a hated the reenactments or three car tasers. Talk. The dramatic interpretations with the family and like. Your Audience Idiots like we get to us, you just explained to us how social media can ruin your life. Now, we're going to like see like like pretend movie about out ruins your life that was easily twenty five minutes of this eighty seven minute movie that I didn't hate it as much as it sounds like you did. But that part did feel like a, no means no like anti drug PSA or something overall it was a good movie. However, I'd multiple problems with it. Yeah. Overall, good I guess. Interesting insight seem to focus on facebook a lot. As opposed to social media phenomena. Overall and God I. Short Watch. Eight hundred milliliters, right. It did make me realize not a day has gone by and I don't know how long that I haven't engaged with social media. I mean from the time I get up. To that I go to sleep and so is in the night I am looking at it. Well, it's interesting because that's sort of part and parcel of what we do quote unquote. In fact do anything. I've instilled. Or don't know what the word is instituted week long breaks from social media when I would go to Hawaii someone with Christie in August, we've just put the phones away and no posting. So it is important I think to have those built in breaks however short or frequent they might be. Yeah. But I'm glad I saw not a bad movie. It's. Problematic All right. So let's get to some of the questions I solicited these over Patriot patriot dot com slash Alison Rosen is where you go four behind the scenes content videos of the Thursday shows. I do a bonus episode almost every three to four a month. I cannot commit yet to the word weekly but I mean that's the direction it's headed. Okay. So. Open up a patriot. Patriotic Slash Alison Rosen, but it's also to wells I. Just want I just want the residual people who don't. Like me enough donor how I spent my name. Yeah, exactly. They're in for the idea they're they're not going to look up how to spell your name has got to be half a dozen people want I mean that's you know free. Yeah I mean with that. Thirty or so dollars you'll get a month my God. But some of them might get up alison out. That's right. Okay. So have a little song or the song that we play. Them. Then how had been so Much. Dance. All right. Thank you can Kelly says, what's his favorite part of being a dad? How does he feel about the future facing our children in the future? Oh God. Thank. You for the question can. That's a big question. Favorite part. If over going micro. If ever part is Tessa will. So she has a complicated relationship with her dad, her her favorite activity or activity pastime just thing to do is to punch me in the stomach is harsh again, like shows be passing me. I'll walk up to her she'll turn around just. Full wind up, punched me in the stomach often she misses and she's very short. So you can do the mouth on where this ends up. But. A Lotta punches in the stomach occasionally, she will show some affection towards me. Especially if I been gone for a while coming home from physical therapy she she always. Now I'm thinking of other things she always every time I do a podcast she she has she insists on saying I. Love You daddy have a good show offcial if she forgets or it doesn't get around to it, she'll pop in the middle of the podcasting I, Love Donny show. It is very sweet and she. what was the? Oh, she she every going physical therapy. She calls it. It's modified over the last few months, but she's invisible therapy. Does Go. Invisible therapy, and now have a good invest in visit goal is getting closer to physical but I think better than that even is occasionally she will. Show. Some affection to me when I come home from physical therapy or when I come home from something whatever I'm doing and she'll yell daddy she'll. To pick her up from daycare like she'll daddy run across a big. Genial excited to see me sale does pretty cool. That's probably. Level of micro level that's that's the best. and. Then I guess on a macro level you've probably experienced this is just seeing the kids grow up and gain an understanding of the world. You can see the wheels turning when they're learning certain things you know what I mean like. Tessa. Went from a baby to toddler to like having an okay understanding of how certain things in the world work and when you can see them putting things together like, oh, we can't do that because of Jeremy. Jeremy. I can have a little scoop of ice cream if I finish my whatever you know. Putting things together. It's pretty cool watching a little person like grow up and learn and become a century and being. I don't know if I can answer the second half of your question. That's a big. I don't. Worry too much protests only because I get the sense she's very much like, Christie thank. God. I get the sense that she'll be just fine whatever life throws at you know. Sort of like you know some or catastrophe, but she's resilient strong. She's smart. So I I'm just trying not to fuck it up. Do you. When I look at Elliot sometimes, I'll I'll look at him as a little person and then I'll get a flash of what he looked like as a baby. There's a specific moment when he was he was in the Nikki for two days and. I remember. Looking at him in his little like isolate bassinet, whatever the little thing is that there in in the nick you and Premature no I had. McCoy NEOM. You know what? That is some. Of something lot. It was like a substances that not yes. So Makoni M is there I pope? But if they hoop in utero which they do if there's some kind of distress or something interesting. Yeah. So if they poop in. utero than. It like they can't when they. If, they can inhale it when they come out. and. They can go into their lungs and make them sick. So he that didn't happen but he didn't. Explanation didn't happen well. But like if rose. Well, he was covered in it like it didn't go into his lawns, but they had to resuscitate him like he didn't start breathing his own I. don't really I s because it was in his throat. Yeah I was super scared his nose or something. Yeah. I still don't understand exactly what happened but like something was blocking his ability to get air it was healthy healthy boy now. Ultimately who cares yes but it was crazy at the time because they started. Counting down and then doing compressions and it took and Daniel thought we were losing him and I was like. Completely oblivious. I get like they were i. feel like they were distracting me from what was actually happening the might have been. Yeah I can see that being a strategy i. Took Christie now tells still tell the story because I apparently was not aware of how Tessa was going through look upon delivery because when they pulled out this gray baby, I was like, Oh shit I really thought wrong and then they'd go slopped butter whatever and she started crying right Oh. That's normal Christ because I really didn't know what to expect. Yeah. Elliot was like Greenish and not looking good and I just figured Oh that's how they look but he actually was like covering Makoni am okay. So it was great I did not know that typical right so anyway. I feel like I really got to look at him and like take him in in the nick you I didn't get to do it in my arms because they whisked him away right away. It's a whole long but anyway, there was this moment in the Nikki where I really saw him and was was like This specific expression that I'm seeing is the way the thing you're doing with your lips like is that going to be one of your expressions when you're older like is that what you're going to look like and all the time when I'm looking at him now I flashback to that particular moment. That's interesting I. I have a similar, but it away opposite observation, which is i. am constantly no consolation happens. It's having a few times where I've. Either been looking at test and just staring at her I can I swear to God. I can see what she's GonNa. Look like as like a teenager older like an adult. Like Oh okay. Yeah. That's exactly what I see the older person in her coming out like interface or expressions or her movement or whatever, and I'm struck with like. Adam Sandler and click moving I, didn't. Well, it's actually not saying much on the better Adam Sandler comedies. He gets magic remote control and he can go back and forth and his life, and at one point he actually goes forward like forty years. Old and his daughters are grown up and he realized how much she missed and I had. A sense of that when I was when I was looking at, Tuzla? Oh. My God. I can see you as an adult. That's crazy. But yeah, I feel like occasionally I've had a little bit of a flash but where I sort of. It's funny. It's more with Owen Owen my second that I can imagine him as older more. Allan White says as a head and neck cancer survivor that lost half my face to this. I just want Brian to know that. I, think about him all the time also years and years ago Brian gave out the life hack of using the phone number eight, six, seven, five, three, nine grocery stores where you don't have a membership and that has worked for me literally one hundred percent of the time. Thanks. Brian. Oh. This is my happiest moment so. White is the drummer from aways this. That's a deep hole. Noah cares about that I'm sorry about your face man that sounds terrible i. wonder what that means like. There could have removed as I may be part of his jaw. Depending on where the cancer was. That's kind of common I. Have seen a video where he's talking about it and I guy yeah. Oh, I think. I don't. I think half of this face is paralyzed I. Don't think that actually have face was I. don't think it was removed removed. Okay. I don't think good good luck to you Allan. Thank you for the email and I'm so glad that works it's worked for me every time. But of course, guarantee it's going to work everywhere all the time but apparently Alan is. Is Boosting, and promoting this life act. Yeah I'M GONNA have to try that and by the way I now I'm like shoot did I get the details of it wrong and he? I don't there was some removal, but it's not like. I. Could've put in a plate or sell artificial. Seth. Eisenberg says what are your thoughts on movies being released in theaters when all the experts say it is the perfect storm to catch cove it. I want to see the new James Bond at home. Damn it. That's an interesting take. Alison. This is a very difficult situation for me because I host movie podcast and I would look foolish by not having opinions on the latest big movies the come out I've already missed tenant like the Big Christopher Nolan but. People outside. of La Marianne I know all of our theaters now La county are close they're not even open for business yet so I do have a plan personally that obviously is not going to work for everyone, but I've planned on how to see these movies. When in fact they do become available to watch. I would rather not watch a big spectacle movie like James Bond for God's sake and my home like for the first time I wanNA see these movies in their grand splendor on the big screen. But yeah, I'm suffering personally and professionally by not being able to see movies in theater. So it's a IT'S A. I, don't think there's a good answer I mean I would like to believe that the theaters are doing everything they can to keep us safe. Wherever they are the country when I do go back I'll probably wear two masks you know what? I mean once the other just to be extra safe. You're you're you're obviously taking a chance. To weigh the chance of the risk. The reward versus the risk yeah. The whole the the constant risk assessment is is exhausting not doing like what you're going through but exhausting is that another wrinkle of course moving very immuno-compromised but it's the same debate like we we went through this exact same debate we we mean, Christie. When insider whether to send Tusla school. because. We're school reopened. I guess. Beginning of September and just the lighter. ooh. So we obviously have debated like how safe is it safe? Say Visit to the benefits outweigh the risk like sending test the school. For her and for us. And the end of the day the school took some daycare preschool took such aggressive safety measures that really helped put our minds at ease like they're doing everything. They can as far as I can tell. So really help put our minds at ease and be a lot better with thinning her back. Benefits for her to like she gets she was dying to see her friends. He's an only child and. Always will be so she doesn't have a sibling to play with or whatever. So she was really Suffering, socially, you know what I mean like she was getting cranky she kept asking about our friends. And so it's been it's been a month and it's been very smooth so far schools doing great. Yeah. We're still having this debate. There is I think we are going to send him back but then I'm like. I'm scared about it but then knowing that you are sending Tessa back. Makes me feel more. Okay. Like if you would you doctors way in. That's a good question. Do we think we? Have a festive. FRY. The, we may have mentioned it to them and I like that any opposition if you're comfortable with the measures that your school is taking like we to go on campus at tests school like we dropped off at the gate, they check arena ticker temperature they ask US questions. You know if you've been exposed to Blah Blah and then a teacher counts takes her to her classroom. So No, we're not even allowed on campus. So they're taking pretty strict measures which really puts our lines at ease obviously A. Personal preference I would never fault you or for saying yes or no right I do think it would definitely benefit him. I mean there's for the kid absolutely. Yeah. Ray Morgan does he have his old drops parentheses my fiance Daniel becky honking ten. Harry. I. Feel. I have that. Roy How long should all away alison? Let's say back. Interesting. That one is up popping up. Let me. Maybe do. have good news for everyone. Hi this is Becky Huntington. Funny. Call. Okay superfan Giovanni wants to know I was given all of his remaining stuff from the wet excuse me from the Westwood One love line studio including a floppy disk from two thousand five with Brian's resume on it does he want it? Why was he still using floppy disks in two thousand five? This is a mystery well, first of all. Why? Have Anything Westwood one I worked two hours a night screening calls. It Love Line Right two thousand five would've been when I was. Let go on ceremoniously. I don't know anything about that I. Don't know anything about either. Or either one. Geo By all means, get it to me but I I don't even know like access what's on a floppy disk? Why was I resume on there? was a floppy disk there what I am I am mystified I don go really is a superfan. He has my personal affects not I did not know existed. Floating out there from my tenure love line. I don't know why would have had it I don't why would had anything at Westwood? One I did I worked there like I said for two hours a night. It wasn't like my fulltime job they got mailbox or anything now when he says floppy disk. An actual floppy one on one of those diskettes. Who Foreigners? Is a possibility perhaps they. Perhaps for some reason, I saved a resume on the computer there and maybe put all my files onto. In Very Westwood one be still using floppy disk five. I was not I probably have I'm a laptop at that point one of with it. Anyway Yeah Gio shitting me. Jeremy Cats. Wants to know. I'm sorry what this is too intense and long I recently was on the receiving end of an aggressive rectal exam. You what can you play that again because I think I talked over it. I recently was on the receiving end of an aggressive rectal exam. Okay what was this? Whole on. God hates fags. True Choose to express that on the air but. That was that. The WESTBORO BAPTIST I'm a member so I. YOU REMEMBER THERE and for some reason, eat more pussy that had to do with eat more that was like. CHICK-FIL-A. was that what was I think so I? Have Literally, we should listen to the one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Drops saved US Alison Pussy. Eat More Pussy K. they're coming for our pussy used to pussy was policy I always smelled strange pussy on you. You said that was just because you walk through a crowded room of people who had been eating Pussy and God on you this is going to make your pussy smell a lot. I. WanNa be with some pussy. You've got to go out and get the pussies coming to me. I gotta go get. Them Different Alisson. That's not me. Fair enough. So I have six drops from you. I really did think pussy was posse pronounced posse. I really enjoy the last one because it's understated plus. It Again. Oh, let's let's hear more. This is fun. You got to. Tell you that the episode sometime like ten seconds of dead Air Sta. Away. Didn't you have one there was. Chubby girls are always down to. God. That's true. You said it. Good. Giant turtle cluster. Those from. Keep going to the question. Okay. Jeremy Cat says Christie has an interesting job in advertising does Brian ever get used as a sounding board for her idea says, does he ever have a chance to chime in with his own ideas and opinions or do work and home life stay separated or listen to be everyone listening to be pretty closely every good idea Christie's ever had me. Does obviously a joke. But yes, quite often I'll give her feedback or insider they sometimes it's as simple as when she's preparing a deck, which is like a presentation powerpoint presentation. She like was a better word for blank and I'll just give her a better word or suggestion, but there are times when. I think the greatest one of my life was. So, when you and I are working together, Christie was working on. Jaguars. Jaguar. Landrover. And they did a super bowl commercial, which is a big deal in housing industry. That's that's posit-. Goes it gets a lot of prestige lot of. Expectation you get a lot of attention in the industry and so they did. Had A great idea. It was a really great concept it was British. Villains. Like. The wire, all the great villains played by Brits because Jaguars with British car and so they. Over compiling a list of. These great British villains? Yeah. Actors and who to reject to basically, and I was like going to reach out to Alan Rickman. Who was still alive at the time you got to reach out you know selling selling selling, anything hopkins all these great. British British actors who played villains and they ended up with. Ben. Sir Ben Kingsley and tell handle stint who was doing for the time and I I, recommend it a sort of obscure one but very recognizable. I said you gotta you gotTa grab. Your marks. Strong. Sex Guy that has faced yuck. Yeah. That guy I know him he's the bad guy and all the movies you would know the name most people wouldn't know the name but. Yeah suggested that he ended up being in the commercial. So that was one of my finer finer moments looking you shaping culture. That's right. Taste maker mobile you should. Mark Strong because you'll recognize one hundred percent. He's just recognizable British actor plays the heavy oftentimes. But the name is. Anonymous I'm do it right now while I do this, why don't you play a drop? You don't work for me. You don't have to do what I say. That I supported a full Bush about twenty-three. Was Me laughing? Oh. Yeah I. See this guy. Allison peop-. Player that again. Loves find them whereas L.. Who knows that was? That was the second drop I got from you in two thousand fourteen. Oh Wow. The first one, January sixt I remember the first one. o- like the very first drop. Yeah. It was Charles Manson. Oh my God. That was one of the first ones that got I agree with Charles Manson? Was a classic I will sometimes still just sit there and I will remember a drop and I'll start laughing thus. Great. Well, if you WANNA hear it, I'll play for you over the phone The ones that cracked me up plus ellipse still Bam. That's right and. Classics for a reason and Yellow Man. Shaun White. Do you still play those? I do those are. Not so much pussy lips over to Greta Greater Rob, and actually was the hardest times. I've laughed like a spontaneous thing that was set on the show Yellow Man I. Still Have Bom. Do you remember what the story behind Pussy Lips was. Yes do you? Yeah it was like yours. You was the most requested. It was an drawing or something right inmates, right? So inmates were allowed to request art of things they like things they had. Set up like things they hadn't seen in a while. Suggested that there might be. A Woodley's arrived. Totally makes sense. Okay. So strong, he's very recognizable. Yes. Amy Freehill says Brian Your Great Adam show and the film vault, but I've totally fallen for your wife Christie. I really enjoyed her commercial great podcast. will she be doing more episodes? She seems so down to Earth caring very intelligent besides Alison thank you. I. Want to be my new best friend. This sounds like an insane person. Let's all answer your question anyway. Yes Christie is amazing and quite lovely. She has expressed many times that she wants to do more episodes of the podcast problem is that she's working a lot especially you know. During the COVID lockdowns with a Helmet just impossible to get people to get the time to talk to people. But I know that as a stated goal of hers and she she would very much like to do that again. So thanks for listening to that. Yeah that was. Sheila she loves doing it, and now she described that as one of her heavy places, just doing podcasts in talking to people which sure Alison you can identify. Yes. It is. It is a nice bit of. Normalcy in this craziness. Allison Cook says, does Brian have a favourite love line call Holocaust with Tom Arnold? Mason Jar etc.. Yes and you'll probably remember this as a fan of the show. I. Always through for a long time to get a question like people find out that screen calls for a love line and they'd be like. What's the craziest call you ever got and I had an answer because the craziest call I ever got that I ever personally screened was. A pretty well known call amongst love. Love Love Line fans. Guy called up and talking on the phone he's like. Want to know how to meet girls. Like okay. Well, let's Seems to be the problem and he goes just having trouble and girls. All right. Well Y and he goes well I just got a prison unlike how old are you? He's like nineteen like you. To prison and just got out and your nineteen is I like what? What what, what did you do? What happened he goes well, I. Broke into Muslim and took the head off of a corpse. All on. Him On hold and I put simply put simply put on the screen now out of Andrew Riveria so drew especially Adam didn't read very well back in the day but drew. was very particular about the types of calls they took. Liked interesting or specific or whatever on the screen, but I did deliberately decided to put you know. Let's call him Daniel Daniel. From wherever's from and put. Wanted Advice on how to meet girls. Not Not a great love line call and. Give him the thumbs down but during the break I'm like drew. Trust me on this one. If you trust me as a phone screener, just take the call and see where it goes as it. All right. So they took the call and sure enough. The guy had Yeah. He he had some problems. He broke no mausoleum took the head off the corpse putting his fish tank. Convinced his brother that it was his grandma and his dad grandma and the other ratted him out and he went to prison. Well. I do hope he's found love. Wonder. We still have been curls. He's got a lot to talk about. Did you enjoy screening? Did. It. Got It got tedious at times because now you're listening to. A lot of the same problem and that was that was hard because they got so many calls about you know all I'm I'm sixteen I'm cutting all myself for. A lot of medication stuff and drew obviously. Wanted to keep the show interesting and keep it not light. But like keep it varied and all over the place and so having to tell people like, sorry, they can't do that call tonight you know try stocks some other time. We just took a call about cutting or whatever it was. Hard you know. I obviously. I don't know these people but I felt for them. You know have a problem in their life that they've received to be big enough to call a radio show so. It got tedious and a tough but overall, it was cool to meet the bands and the actors in the whoever came in. That was fun I was. A hold of twenty five, maybe WanNa do on the job impressionable and it was cool to be around the show. The show is fun and celebrities, and you got to see the cool thing was getting to see celebrities very much relaxed because it's ten ten to midnight. It's radio. It's a little bit anonymous. You know what I mean. So you can kinda kick back a little bit and you got some pretty cool moments out of that. You've got to see people relaxed a little bit. Who are. Some jerks? I'm so glad I don't remember the Turks. IRA. Petty but I remember like. and. It's bad to talk l. of the dead, but he was jerk. I walked through the front door come to work at one point and Lincoln Park was going to be online and that's a big fucking deal on. K. Rock. That's that's royalty especially in two thousand four whatever was back when you're using disks. Yes exactly. And that's about as big as it got excited I just Lincoln Park or call in or whatever. So. I walk in the front door. And Chester. Bennington. Oh I, believe it's passed away. I think. So he was right. They're doing like a little stand-up interviews for some dude like talking to camera right like a little home video camera style behind the scenes thing and I did my best to. Walk past him without interrupting or I was very conscious of being on camera just being flying the wall so to speak. And I think I. Bumped him with my backpack and. He stopped doing looks. Gives me I. Forget exactly what he said was like skews me it was one of those kind of things and I was like. You're very popular celebrity on your Home Turf Basically K rock sort of event like nobody and I'm just trying to say to your way and oops I'm sorry if I rushed you with my backpack. He. Made an issue out of it and it was like, all right yeah. So, Anyway A heavy messed. I remember. There were people at the crow show guests who like. I felt. Really only. A couple that I can think of really like turned the green room or the sort of the common areas intellect their own living room to the point where I felt like, Oh, I'm sorry for interrupting you in this place that I work right I. Feel Very, I felt very unwelcome in. Plano about doing radio or podcasting where the guests are generally at. His TV and they're getting. worked up to do letter or whatever right hair and makeup and shit. So I do feel like we have the advantage of catching most guests when they're relaxed or you know on their. Best Behavior. So I don't it's really rare that we have guests who are. Jerks or unless they're predisposed I guess. Right I can't think of many de Miss. Doing. The show in the studio. Yeah. Shows Better in the studio for sure. I understood. The reason I can't go for. The condition that I? Do look forward to the day when we're all together. Yeah. The for the same reason, you probably look forward to the guests back face-to-face I so much so. Although I feel like a lot of podcasters who do show similar to mine are having people in person at this point. and. In fact, I was just on someone's podcast and she asked if I would come and do it in person but said if I watched her but I didn't I decided for now I just would rather do it over zoom but I don't know I do know a lot of people who are doing it in person these days you know like like. ADDAMS having guests in person right. Does. Studio yesterday. Right. But that's that's an exception. Say Four to five guests are remote. Really. Okay. Yeah. Yeah I'm not I don't I'm just not comfortable with the yet although. It's probably. I'm having my co host Anderson stay at his house. A we're going to a bit of an extreme, but right is what it is. Right. Brian. Thank you so much for making the time to do this. Is that all done what we don't have to be? Okay good. We don't have to be. We agree with Charles Manson Auto. Israel's me isn't it to do with this sort of a non sequitur there allison. That's all okay. I was waiting for more. Listen if you like what you're hearing, please subscribe to your friends, download it, Cetera. Listened to Alison is your best friend and also my podcast that I do with Greg Fitzsimmons are parenting ish podcast called childish and I'm on Patriot Patriotic Dot com such alison, Rosen, and I'm Patriot on you can sign. So it's normally a monthly sign up thing but right now are going forward. You can do an annual membership if you want which a lot of people started. Volts? Yes people loving. People can the very slow getting a month plus free? which is crazy. ARE WE GONNA lose money on this deal probably probably initially at the beginning I was doing two months free. So it was twelve months the price of ten and I, just switched it now to ten percent off. So it's a little over a month a month deal but yeah, people people love it. So Patriotic Dot com slash alison, Rosen I was on cameo dot com such Alison Rosen. You're hearing. Leaving is comment Brian Tell everyone where they can find you plug whatever you'd like to plug. Alison mentioned the film vaults which has been a guest on. You might find that episode are now archives on. I don't know if it's still out there but. It's it's accessible if you look hard enough, you're great guests. Thank aging. I. Did it like three times I think? Really. Yeah. Sounds like way more than desert. Right, I know I like in your head, you've downgraded it to one, but I'm pragmatically another host of the show. That's what I was the third host of the film ball telephone and everyone. Yeah. Because once was when I had just started and you guys were doing it like in the fishbowl studio. The. Second Time I came to wherever in the third time was after was in two thousand fifteen and I came back to that place unless it was really only twice. But one time was in the FISHBOWL. fishbowl being we'll see one no, the fishbowl being the original Adam Corolla Studio. Yeah Yeah Crowded by that I. Mean I forget about it. So long of course, the atom crawl show five days a week make wacky sounds on there. Own. Such as. The. I know so walking. The book else mentioned shrinkage is out there helpful for anyone your life is unfortunately diagnosed with. Cancer some sort of mirror major illness a lot of people have found. Helpful advice in there which I never intended while writing that it's become kind of a bit of a self help gift I guess you know people don't know what to do for their friends who are diagnosed with the give them my book, which is an incredible honor. I literally did not anticipate that one writing that was gonna be are. Interesting Rumination recollection of my journey but ended up being helpful to people. So check it out. Look at that you inadvertently did something. Generous. No I'm ashamed. Thank you again it was wonderful talking to you. Listeners. Thank you for listening I. Love You goodbye. Shows. Acute. But now we gotta do. Wrong. Rosy. View.

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Tammy Collier Returns

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

1:09:48 hr | 5 months ago

Tammy Collier Returns

"And i have to tell you jessie. I know that there's probably going to go. What are you going to say. I actually believe that this is his best album health hands down and i don't use it lyrically. The do re doing this. A couple of this hits are a couple of the songs must past Retooling them Relevancy and stuff that. I'll talk about even in this conversation. How about you know that teaser. You're just gay that you just gave. But everything and i don't know if it was because we were so lonely and so locked down I i don't know for sure. But i've listened to it. It's just. there's not one song on that on the entire you go. I know we're like that Didn't hello everyone. And welcome to a new episode of settlers bruce. Your podcast all about bruce. Springsteen has music mostly as fans. I am your host jesse jackson joining me. A return guest Tammy collier is from the dallas fort worth area. We met each other through a mutual friend. i was talking to her. And she's like you've got to meet my friend tammy And she still. You've got to be jesse we met. We had a great time and she was on the podcast last january. And we've been trying to get back and it finally worked out. Welcome back to the show. Tammy thanks for having me jesse. I really appreciated how you doing. I am good We talked a little bit for a hit record. You know i've gotten my first shot Linda got her first shot So far As i shared on the podcast life at my day job is incredibly busy. And we're ramping. It's it's the end of march of are already worried about summer again You know tammy. I know you growing up in texas right. Like there's there's summer and not summer the two seasons you know in texas here. It's summer at coach net and getting ready for summer or the only new seasons in this were crazy world that i'm working in. Yeah now it's been the same same for us as well. Yeah hands down. Since we've we've been we've been very very busy. Since march of last year it is it is funny. We were sitting at a restaurant Here in dallas are really lewisville and you know we. We had a great time and we were laughing and joking and and we like we gotta do this more often. Oh absolutely we're gonna make this a regular thing right cova and we stayed in touch via emails and social media and other things but it is just been a crazy year. Hadn't it it has. I mean it's a between. I know that was. That's not something to think about the fact that we were just sitting there talking. About what recess going to do all these things that we we enjoy having seen each other previously in having launch etc. But this this has been it's been crazy I live with my mom. My mom lives with me. She seventy two and so having to watch out for her and you know she was a chew. She's a little stubborn it first. She didn't want to stay in and And so you know having to lock down and And in working really really super long hours The type of a product that i sell allows people to work from home so The minute that this happened and all the lockdowns happen we just. We've been working really really long days since then and then social isolation and everything. That's happened I it's it's unbelievable to think of where we're at right now and to know that it's been a whole year one year that we've been doing this and so i'm really grateful for the vaccines. I'm grateful that we're getting some light of hope. And you know that we're able to i. I had my vaccine. So i'm i'm all said and my mom is so and in fact she just left for vegas today so they're they're now to see the grandkids and has she hasn't seen while so that's it's a ray of hope that that we're all feeling right now you know it is and You think about it. We got lucky Chris in you know. Chris was living in an our house of because of other circumstances and he was just talking about moving out and then covert happened and he was like. I'm so glad. I didn't. Because i know i would have packed up all my stuff Charlie's is dog. And me. And charlie would have moved back in. Because i'm not going to sit in this apartment by myself you know so And it was. It's it's weird. Tammy you know I'm you know here's our computer room. As you can see will. He would be on that computer. I would be in our living area working off my laptop and my poor wife would be in the bedroom. Like i can't get out like you know both the calls both you and we'd like hey are you. Are you have concord right now. Yes okay and so. We'd go one of us go into the bedroom. So he wouldn't interrupt and It's just really really strange. It really is it really is and but it is kind of nice that as technology you can show that You can't stay productive working remotely. You can still stay engaged with your agent's you can stay engaged with your employees you can stay engaged with your clients you know. That's been a amazing and You know a few years ago. Our company said will. Why are we not doing this remotely. There's no reason for us to go and sit in front of customers. There's no reason for us to meet face to face. Why can't we do this over. Zoom ironically we have. We've had zoomed the entire time it. Why can't we. Why can't we sell that way. And you know i. I think that that relationship Has definitely transformed over the past year where people are still saying. Yeah no we can do this. And we've we've had two quarters. Our company is just soaring right now. and were able to we've been able to transform were installing our products and services remotely We're able to do things that i don't think that they were. They were really reluctant to do. And we do still have that old adage you know that. Hey i need to sit and read with you. And i want to have dinner and things like that but now we've we have a lot of people are going to know about that. Maybe we really need to. And then we're a lot more productive. Yeah i i certainly theory and i you know i've had a couple of people that We did. I will wine tastings the you know the vendor send us wines and like then we like we all set on zoom and we tested and so it is kind of interesting So i'm glad you and yours are safe. And i'm glad things are going well I am i ve been very vocal. I feel blessed that our industry you know the roadside assistance for. Rv's has just been very busy and for various for very good reasons. It's very. It's a safe way to travel. You can remain social distance. You can be self contained and so it's worked out really well for us and You know so. i'm. I've got back in the office toward the end of may and so in a lotta ways life has been normal for me. I go to the office. I come home. But i wear masks every day. And they temperature and they double check. That i haven't been exposed every morning. I have to do this before. I can walk in the office. Nice well that and that's great that you've had a little bit of a little a little bit normal. Yeah absolutely all right so for those you have not heard. Why don't you tell a little bit about yourself. Okay so monday against the collier. I'm i live here in dallas I have the mahia. Bruce springsteen fan. I think everybody knows that. In fact i know everybody knows that. They're probably tired of me talking about it on facebook or posting this or that and i get i mean. I have a lot more to say that right. Now it's just it's it's something to look forward to. It's my little. It's become even more of a hobby if you will on a regional sales director for five nine. It's a call center software solution as a service. I ran call centers for twenty years. So i was an executive. I started as an agent. And i was director manager vice-president and then About eleven years ago or so. I went into sales and started selling Software related products. That are in the call center. So i've worked at oracle salesforce names on web services before i came over to five nine and now i'm leading a team of five people here in the in actually in texas i've at three reps here I have a wrap in in austin and is no. I have four reps right here no. I'm sorry i've been another arkansas. So yes Yeah so that's my background and We think we we had. I had an amazing Time with you the last time we had a chance to talk about Bruce in my love. His from abbas music is live performances. Broadway sandra sandra yeah. We really did. And you know one of the things that came up And that's we're gonna talk about it when when we had lunch as you talk about you know. I used to do a presentation about the customer experience. And tie it to bruce. And i went. Oh that would be a fun. Podcast and so That's our teaser. That's that's our main meal that we're going to get to in a little bit so I think that's going to be fun. But i've gotta do some brace quick hits it's been a year What were your thoughts a letter to you. Oh my goodness You know it's really funny the last time we talked. We have a lot of favorites. What we're trying and you know. We heard the rumblings that this was the masterpiece. This was the best album that he had ever done. And that's how bruce in the e street band belt. And i have to tell you jesse that there's probably going to be to go. What are you going to say. I actually believe this is best album hands down. And i don't use it lyrically. The ju- redoing. The a couple of this hits are a couple of johnson mus past retooling them Relevancy and stuff that. I'll talk about even in this conversation about you. Know a teaser. You just gay just gay. But everything and i don't know if it was because we were so lonely and so locked down I don't know for sure. But i've listened to it. It's just there's not one song on that on the entire album. I don't like that. Yeah i i know that i was. You know i was very vocal that All you know. Forgive me if you don't follow my politics. But i wanted a new president if we got a new springsteen album in october when he started here to room inside new president november maybe twenty twenty would not be the worst year ever And when you hear her and you know and then you're you know we got the apple documentary which kinda showed the guys working together I agree it's it's it is. It is an amazing album. And then when you think that they were all you know he's what sixty nine seventy when he recorded this that you know. Wow talk about still to mix your metaphors fastball. Being able to provide something. That's that's amazing. Definitely an incredible and And also i like you. I'm sure we watched the film on apple. Tv of the making letter you. I think that You know the the sadness that i felt in my heart. When they're all excited about the tour that they're going to do and i was just like. Oh man they have. Nobody knows what's going to happen. You know and i just there's a. There's a little bit. i'll talk about later about letter to you at this relevant to business but it was just i think powerful musically powerful in songs Again taking on this journey of his life and where we're at and where he's at and and just the promos that went into it. And by the way i am tanny from dallas and The zane interview. I don't know if you caught this or not but zane interview. They loud a thousand people into for the The hour before they released it. I i was one of the people who got in all nice. Ya and i put in the chat. You know in case anybody would see it Because we're all talking before. And i said hi tammy from dallas. I love the album. Thanks for this cruciate. We needed this in two thousand twenty and when zane was cutting through. He's talking he's reading some names off in their four names that he read off and one of the very last witnesses and tammy from dallas. Yes awesome yeah. It was great. That was an i do think it was really great. How many interviews he gave. And what inciteful that was a very insightful interview from zane if that really covered some new things it did and every time you think that you haven't heard something else from him he he gives you something else right. Yeah and you know the other thing. I've talked about this with other guests. But you know when you would people like melissa ethridge and other people start doing home concert like oh maybe bruce will do home concert and then when you hear well he's going to be on e street radio and and then voice up playing and then you realize okay well. This'll be different and then I had Run martz who's a writer you know on the podcast said he is a great storyteller. Why are we surprised that he can't tell a great story in this format and Hearing him all do the shows on east radio have been kind of a little biddy blessing through the year that you'd like. Oh we've gotten insights in his thoughts. We've got to hear music You know that he picked out of really treat indeed. Indeed you know. An unfortunately. I haven't been able to hear all of those on. I've i listened to some but because of the work in venus. I understand yeah but no i. I agree it's another way. And i'll touch them them later to. That is never another way man himself. All the timing gives us something else that we're going let i did. So i wanna know Did you when you heard. He was going when rumors started that he was gonna do. A jeep commercial I will tell you tammy when the night before the super bowl when it broke. I thought it was fake. 'cause i'm like this. Looks like straight from western stars. Did someone just takes them. You know like stuff off western stars and build something You've been a fan for years. Did you have any feelings you know. Is that mixed feeling that we all have which is woah. Wait a minute you know. Don't use any of your songs wrote it. But i was. I was excited. Because i knew that i knew that bruce whatever he was going to do is going to be meaningful and then when i heard that it was going to be two minutes and it was of course. It's going to be two minutes. Because bruce do anything short number one too he's going to it's going to be meaningful so i was. My first impression was okay. it did. Is he gonna use a song and sell out. I couldn't imagine him doing that. I really couldn't without seeing the commercial or knowing what was what was coming. I knew there was no in the world he would do that. that kind of passed through and then when the commercial came out i was. I was very very happy about it. I it was meaningful and relevant again it winding his audience again. An all of that so that was my thought on. It was good for him. Yeah great great. Reach other people. Yeah and i you know. One of the people on twitter said that the divers reaction from both the right and the left about the commercial in their complaints about it tells you how far away from the middle that we are and i am not judging anyone who didn't enjoy it but from my perspective i thought he was giving a story that he felt passionate about. Ned heave a cause. He feels strongly about and So i was glad to see it. And i thought it was well done agree and i think Ironically that and talk a little bit about this too about the you know the idea that he's a working man and he doesn't believe he's a working man because he's rich and and then the message being off because here's a rich man talking about you know something he knows nothing about in s l. wants that's all he's ever one and if you ever listened to his messages if you ever listen to any of his stuff that's gone on for the last forty five years he saying the same thing. This has been a message. And i think it's been consistent right the The distance between the american dream in the american reality. And i think he's always been about that. Well good. I'm glad and i'm glad we got to catch up so I have been doing call center business. Probably my first. True what i would call call center. Jobs started eighty seven. I sold car insurance over the phone. Then i moved to customer service. I worked my way into management ended up being you know a manager and then director And so i've been doing this all along. And i have made multiple presentations to You know industry seminars to my teams you know always trying to do and in fact when i started my new job the first thing i did was i met with every agent. I asked them. What do you like about the job. What don't you like about the job. What do you think we need to do better at. And oh by the way if we're going on a road trip. What's the one song that has to be on the road trip. And i actually made a spotify playlist of all the agents you know s- picks And i'm i'm in the process of building a seminar for next week on how to interview both internally and externally i- i feel like that my agents don't have enough experience and i i so i want to teach them. I want to tell them that. You know whether you're applying for jobs here or you're gonna look for jobs and other departments other companies. That's that's life. Let me show you how to do it. Well so. I always find a way to incorporate bruce. when i was in manila. I did a whole talk about better days and work that into End when people challenge you like okay. If you had fifteen minutes yet to do a ted talk what would you do like. Oh man i pull out the lyrics. The better days and i could talk for twenty thirty minutes. So you're doing different presentations through your career. How did you come up with you. Know your love of bruce. Let me mix it with my real life. Well this is a fun story. So i have always incorporated a bruce slide into my decks right so every time that in its whether it be. It's always a quote is always something that said that i sneak it in. You know nobody wins. Everybody wins you. Know all of these These different things that he's said over the years and so i was at i was working in salesforce and i had a call come in when i was in in new york and i had a call. Commend said Would you do a presentation for salesforce service cloud. That's what i that was my area what i sold. Would you do a presentation for our our big partner event in dallas. I said sure and it was a couple of days. It was last minute. Notices stuff like that and i said what do you want me to present. They say they gave me the information. They gave me a deck. And so. I'm thinking that i'm going to speak at this. Event is going to be maybe twenty or thirty people right max. That's it and i to the hotel early and And i walk in and there are seven hundred people. They're huge huge events. And i'm like okay. Wait a minute. i'm glad i'm here early. Because i want to check out the audience and i wanted to scan see what was going on. Get a feel for the room to just watch people. And i wanted to watch the presentations before. So as i'm watching these presentations and they put me on right before lunch. And so no. How wonderful that is like. Oh i just wanna get out of here. I'm dan and so. I had watched these people in the audience. They're sitting there on their. They're getting up. They're restless they're walking back and forth They're not paying attention. They're talking to each other and then they announced me and i have to go up in. So i had a pretty sizable deck. Which i hate power points to begin with. I think we all do and i had. I don't know twenty five thirty slides. And i'm going to go through my product. My solution why you should be talking to me etc. And i walk up with a probably a handful of massive handful of of business cards because i know these people are gonna come to be afterwards and talk and i started to talk about things and i'm like sitting there and i had already scoped the audience the demographics i knew what i had out there and i stopped because i saw everybody at different points starting to pick up their phones or they're walking out of the room and i said let me ask you a question and i just stopped i said. How many have you ever seen restraining. And jesse everybody. That was all these people that were on their phones. A lot of people. I had dozens of people like all looked up and they all raise their hand. And i said okay. How many have you ever seen. Bruce springsteen concert era raise their hand. All right let me ask another question. How many people have seen bruce more than one time. Everybody had their hands up five times ten times twenty times fifty times we got up to like hundred and ten times to back back where like raise. Their hand keeps the hands back and forth on. Who's gonna drop her. I write and then it came into play. I know everybody was really engaged. I mean even people that weren't interested had no idea. Re springsteen was listening to what's going on has everybody's talking we're all we're all talking. And why do you go see him and stopped. Why why are you see him so many times. What is it about him because he puts on the best live performance. He's he's a genius. Bingo gives you an exceptional customer experience. You know everything. You're getting when you get to bruce. Now let's talk about dip bits and why didn't you have. Why did he go by that little band. That we around your your wrist right. What attracts you to the fitbit. And then then you bring in all the other people. Because i think probably that time when i was talking they had. I'd say ninety percent of the audience fitbit on right so you bring them in and want to be relevant. So that's how springsteen. I got started when i was done jesse. I had a line of people that came up to me for my card wanting to wanting to do business with me. Sure i ended up winning a trip off that by the way to puerto rico because what because i took that particular presentation tailored it down and made it a springsteen road show and from that point forward that's all i did for the rest of the year and you know. That's i thought about this when when chris was really little We went to the circus. Ringling brothers barnum and bailey circus that no longer exist and you don't. We're watching this and everything and the next presentation i made. I said think about have you ever been does circus. Young people raise their hands. I said okay. Did you have a good time. Yeah i said okay. Think about everyone in. That circus has done this dozens of times this week. You know and hundreds of times and they have to do it. Fresh every time so wind. Your phone rings. You know we talk about being a performer that you're you have to treat him like it's the only call you're going to have right just like that when the when the clown throws the bucket confetti and the guy has to pretend like oh. I think it's gonna be water. So i think it's right. Like how many times has bruce played name. The songs born to run dancing the dark you know promised land and but someone in that audience. This is the first time they've heard it and they it's it's magical to them right right right. Yeah so i think this is fascinating so Please share more so for. You're gonna kinda give us through what your presentation was on what your thoughts were right. Yeah yeah so. So out of that came more of a formalized structured presentation right so it came into play it every single event that i went to wasn't just events though Keep in mind you. And i've talked and you know that i could sit down and talk to you about my product and service today or i'd have one of my reps come in and do the same thing and we're going to have a conversation that you should buy from us right so i created what i call bruce. Cx we all know it. Cx means in our world customer experience. But i actually took bruce's name and made an acronym out of it and which we love acronyms note. We yes we do. Yes in the call center. We're all we have to have an acronym for everything so at bruce stands for building relationships relevancy unforgettable consistency and exceptional customer experience. So i would jump in right away and say oh will you just described a springsteen show right because he builds a relationship to us It's relevant because the songs he singing mean a lot. It is unforgettable it's consistent. He never lets you down And you know and it's an exceptional experience. I mean that's i think that is a perfect summary of a springsteen show bingo and i think that and that goes into a lot of the stuff especially building relationships in jesse think about this to know when bruce's performing he's talked about this in talking about the very first part of this of this is that he he's often said that i don't know what's going to happen at a show. He says i. I don't know i'm going to call an audibles all the time. He reached the inner to the audience. He doesn't know what's going to take what is gonna take to change that audience. There's a different feel for performance. Which is what makes him so good right so if you think about that perspective and then and then you look at the end. We talked about this about him. Meeting you in the eye when you saw right mute and we view this in and i'm gonna i want to transform a little bit over into the call center world that we we work in but from meeting you in the i mean he. He's engaged with every everybody he he does that in concert right. He's shaking people's hands and you know and we were at the book signing for those ten seconds you felt like you were the only person in the world you know guess. The next person felt the same way he has an inability this disability to really build a relationship in such instant from his energy feeds off into you. And you know that's something that a lot of people can't do. He's very charismatic. Obviously he he knows and feels and he. He's able to make those that he's able to transform right into that just by the looking you in the eye and the so important but also if you look at it from the you know everybody says oh he's a soundtrack to our live you know. It doesn't matter you know where he's at. He's building that relationship with you whether you're a teenager whether you wanna talk about sex or love or marriage of kids divorce political beings are going on social things that are going on you know. He's always he's always. They're always building that stuff so he's building relationship with each one of us. Yes he really is and you know if you know. Been doing this a little over five years and everyone. I've talked to you. Know talks about that connection that music. How it's meant to you. Know camera her or them where it is And you know and it's always interesting to hear when you bench and favorite songs in the diversity of songs that i ask people. What are you chasing. And they'll have all kinds of different answers right. Yeah yeah definitely now. Think about that. Also to from our perspective Jesse because we don't see people right most of in our in your call center world you're hearing voice on the phone your you. They have very little time. You have thirty seconds basically and you can have really to have a really good experience a really bad experience depending on how you handle that call and we know how to teach people inflection words and what it means and how what actions they're taking and things that constant game chess right. We know what motivates people and we understand that. And you know. It's just salespeople that's even more you get a little bit more get your offense your study. Say that When you're not face to face up to seventy percent of communications as through tone and inflection rates so i really do think that true and You know a sickly shea right but they really can't hear you smile that it how to build that connection and how this say the the and that's a. I think this is a really strong for any business. Not just the call center right but building that relationship making sure you connect right away. Is the key. People want to feel like you care about them and they want to know that you're listening to them that you're paying attention to them. They in our world has been that way for for a long time. We've known that we don't usually see them. And you know over the last year with cova. That's even changed right because now we're on zoom and and so for sales people in particular man. We're we're an f. b. i. Interrogator we we. We're researching we're watching. We're looking at your expressions. Were doing everything you know. And and we find a lot now that we have decision. Makers that are on these zoom calls that are poker faced. We have no idea who they are. But you know that going back in time. The into bruce the ability you have this enormous personality to read and know somebody like me that that i know what you want for for the next ten seconds. I know that you want to know that. I know you exist right In other things that he does just building relationships through his albums performances etcetera. That's that's that's kind of where it goes at all right very nice. The second one is really is really important which is relevant. And this is your like this because this really goes back into bruce his age stay relevant. How has he not stayed relevant. Look what this guy has done over the last two years and and what he's done even within a pandemic right you the things that is so relevant. Look let's look at american skin with four one shots. That song became more relevant last year over the past. What twelve months than it did when it was when i was living in new york ahmadou diyala yellow was killed rising. You'd situation and now. George floyd the black lives matter throat. Massive things that we've had with it mean that song today is more relevant than now than it was then and it was still relevant is there are still staying about the same things. He still talking about the same things right. It is very interesting. The idea that This song that is you know multiple years old and it's sad that it's still relevant because it shouldn't be but it is and the You know one of the things that upset me. Tammy is someone on facebook posted. That y wish. Bruce would quit putting out new albums. Because it's tarnishing his reputation and tarnishing his legacy and unlike okay first off i think letter us brilliant but even if you disliked it how does it tarnish his reputation right like how can this guy And it is one of the things that we got during all these e street radio shows and you were talking about. You've heard some of them is the diversity of the music that he's played. You know my my friend. Sam said i just think he he goes and writes down people's names and then so he'll sound relevant. He'll sound cool right. I don't think he really listened this all kinds of music you know because the story supposedly is like back in the day he would go into music. Store just grabbed tons of cd's random cd's. Go listen to all of them. But when you hear the amount of music and the diversity you know You can truly see. He is a connoisseur of whether it's you know like someone wanting to try different wines or or different. you know. High grade scotches are bourbon or are trying to enjoy different art. You know he is. Music is a joy to him and he's trying all this so therefore he remains relevant because he's aware what the industry is doing. Exactly exactly i mean you know from work lutely. We could no into a lot of different things. You're looking at songs and stuff like that. But look at the rising. I think about that you know when we needed that song. The most he came out it was a wave. Rest agreed over. Nine eleven frights. We're we're now gonna sheep that over into well. We made a video for the dnc to to go to talk about this pandemic. It's destroying our our world you know and a transformation in that brilliance of of hope right and then you know we can back in there. It is again. He's he's he's turned that one song into everything. Broadly yeah well and then. Even i know this was filmed. I know it was recorded before the pandemic happened. But you know. I'll see you in my dreams. Were all the summers. Have come to an end. I'll see you in my dreams will meet and live in love again house even my dreams. Yeah up around. The river bann for death is not the end. I'll see you in my dreams. I mean talk about a song that for the pandemic for all the people we've lost for all the the joy of loss for the people who didn't get to walk across the stage when they graduated for the people who had virtual weddings and virtual -burse you know I just had someone on the podcast that shared you know Rabbi air he joined me years ago and we talked about you know. He didn't get to attend his son sweating. It was in israel and so he had to watch the zoom. Now luckily this year he and his wife are able to fly to see the birth of their grandchild. You know but so there. There's not just the loss of life it's loss of normalcy and this song is like we didn't know we needed it but we did writes in pops up. So you're talking about you're the you. You made a comment about somebody. That didn't like letter to you and okay isn't erase. Everything does that race. More run or the rising or nebraska. Any tunnel love new name. Your your favorite. Is that say that he create that right strike and then when you look at rodway That just turned everything as we know on. Its head that you talk about. Relevance seeks broadway and just turn it around and weighed it. No other artists never done the same and then when you think he's not done he comes out with a podcast with rock obama. I mean relevance. He's always trying to reach somebody new. He's always trying to remain relevant and to get his voice heard and to be heard in wait. He wants to you know i. I've told the story multiple times. But i just think it's it's fascinating I i had a guy reach out to me via linked in the way people beat you at lincoln and He ended up being a springsteen fan. And so i actually booked him on the show and we we interviewed and it was fine and he told the story. He suggests c. i. Sust think back. It's the reunion tour. It's ninety eight ninety nine. He says i'm sitting in the. I'm standing in the pit thinking this is it. My springsteen fandom has reached its zenith. the band has gotten back together. They have performed This they will never talk this. Maybe every couple years. They'll go out and tour but as an e street band fan. I have hit my zenith. He says and i think about telling that guy. You've got the rising to look forward to. You have magic to look forward to. He says you have an autobiography. You have him on broadway. You have him singing at inauguration you. He hasn't even started yet. No in even get him again in twenty twenty one for another nomination. So yeah i mean it's just a is such a such an enormous way and so we all know that you're gonna be if you're going to be relevant in our world you have to transform and you have to change and you have to meet people on their terms gassing people in a way that they want to to be to communicate and to be creative and stuff like that so i think bruce does a great job look at absolutely the next one that we would go through and this by we all know. He's unforgettable right. We we we know as fans there's so many things that he's unforgettable about. I mean it's all things. We've talked about from his albums as writing songs his massive performances. Charity work During the pandemic last year. When he's you know he's he did. The saw the the artist for jersey and getting everybody together to to raise money and do things to help out. New jersey All of his covid relief is jeep collaboration again. He's just he's always he's out there. The podcast born to of the book. Just you name it. There's there's so many ways. That springsteen is unforgettable. As we know. And i i told the story multiple times tammy and i had Back then variety. wasn't files. It was just verizon and we had somebody cleaned the head. Paint the walls of our house and to do that. They had unplugged everything. And so i'm looking at this box of wires you know and I call up for eisen. And i go. Hey i need someone to come out because my internet isn't working. Well i know. I'm telling you it's it's it's everything's unplugged. I have no idea what to do. I know i've got to pay someone to come out. Can you get me someone. And he says yeah. He said that's a different department. I said it's okay. Fine so we get to the other department and this wonderful woman said okay. I've got you down. I have to push one button and this will schedule someone to come out. But i really think if you give me ten minutes we can do this ourselves. Will you give me a chance. Okay and she was all right. You ready put me on. Speaker are ago. Look for this. And she walked me through it. And i got internet. I went holy poop. I've got internet. she goes. I knew you could do it. I knew you could do it. she was. I'm going to cancel the tickets advocate. Yes that's over ten years old. Tammy and i tell. That story went on trying to talk about good customer service ranch right because she's like i can you just i was. She was so nice. Like okay. fine i'll try. But she knew that this is not as hard as he's making it but she didn't try to argue with me she was like okay one button away. I'm getting a guy out there but and And so she was unforgettable at that time that is an experience and when people talk to me about internet service and cable tv i go. Yeah but you know that. Time i needed. I mean you know. I'm i'm i'm gonna give them another chance because i remember this person so fabulous now you told a great story and we have so many so many bad experiences right and that's something in our that. We wish that more people like you would say that you know. I want to hear this fabulous experience that i had because it was just incredible. And i and i'll continue buying from that company and i'll continue going back to that person or if i could talk to her. Every time that i called in i would do that right absolutely and so i think i i love the idea of you know. Be unforgettable you you know in. It's a cliche right. They will remember how you made them feel but it is true. It is very true in both in tech support and customer service in all the different things that you do. Think the face everything yes. You can be unforgettable for good reasons and for bad reasons satellite. Yes all right. And which leads me to my favorite parts which is consistent and you know this is interesting. Excuse me. I don't know if you've ever i don't know if you've ever realized this or not but i when i is putting some of the stuff together. I thought about this. mike oak. Nate nineteen seventy five. Bruce starts out. He plays live shows for four hours. Nine thousand nine hundred five. He's played in shows for four hours. Two thousand one reunion tour east jobs for four hours. Two thousand sixteen shows for four hours. Right yes there we go now so the other thing i did not not look at is when we go back and look. Let's look at how many so we know we are. We know consistently. Bruce is going to be out there live and performing and when he shows a piece plan for four hours. It's like the dallas concert. I talked about in our last time. That i expected them. Come out and play for an hour and a half for free show no. He played for three hours. Three hours. five minutes or something like that right so that is always consistent. You know you can count on him for four hours this name that even though we know it's close close to four hours right album releases though do you know for nineteen seventy five to nineteen nineteen ninety five. He released new album every two three years. While and then from two thousand to two thousand fourteen. He released a new album every two to three years. Okay okay so then you go all right and then what happened from twenty sixteen. We haven't stopped hearing from him. He's like he's not gonna hear we haven't heard from you know we've got him on broadway. We've got the book tour. We have the western stars album midnight. Film that i met you at the letter to you last year. The album the film the things that went into it the podcast. The jeep ad. I mean it just roaming and you know it. Just we're not. He's he's he is refusing to never be heard from right now so I make this joke multiple times and it's not an esa -sarily joking is You know. I live in dallas My son and i you know. Part of our ritual during the fall are watching the dallas cowboys together. Right and every once in a while. Chris's like hey you don't have a dallas cowboy t shirt on you. Have bruce shirt on. I said well. Bruce has disappointed me. Can't say the same about the dallas cowboys soon. They could consistently disappoint you down. Yes maybe so yes Yeah so it is That's fascinating those numbers though of his consistent output right very much so very much. So and i had i was like i wonder because for some reason i felt like that. You know there really. Wasn't he took a little break. And i think that's when he and patty we're having kids bright and he's having his life etcetera. But you know the one thing that we talked about earlier. And i thought about this. As as i've town this you know this. This entire customer experienced and put it into into into a format talked about broadway about him being rich and he's such a fraud and you know he's he. he works. he talks writes about people or nine to five jobs and working class people. He feels like this impostor. He has imposter syndrome right. But that's the point. He really is a working person. He he is so hard at work all the time building his bran doing the right things giving to us. We want more okay. I'll give you more. We want an album giving them. I want a tour. We're going to do a tour. You know. I mean he is so he may be rich. He earned every bit of it. He worked as often and at the same time he really does kind of actually know what working man because what he does. It makes total sense. You know any jokes about the broadway is the first real job. He had that he had to be at the same place every day. You know five six days a week And but i do think that He's been a consistent marketer. And and i'm sure that's i i know he has a team and i'm sure that they work together it. I do not feel in. Maybe that's my phantom is but it appears that bruce you get the feeling he doesn't let too many things not be in his control. When you talk about hearing. You read his autobiography. He talk about that that you know with him fighting depression and all the things of doing this you know. He has very much he. He has a great. You know barbara car and jon landau but he has a group of people but they hit they do a good job of managing his career and keeping it consisted where there is new product. New availability They now doing the live archives once a month you know where you get a different show from different eras You know there. There's rumors were going to be born in usa box set. We may get tracks too. I mean there is You know this letter to you was in the can for a year right because he was waiting for. What's the right time to send us now. He's a genius comes to his brand period hands down whether he's controlling it. He has people to help him. He's making the right decisions. He's always there is always delivering. You know the other thing that we didn't talk about right is his arrest And i know that I've had people on the podcasts. That have That are in recovery. And you know and like one of them reached out to me directly and said I heard about this. My worry with his depression is something going on. I hope he's okay and then later. We all relieved like okay. We'll now that we know the rest of the story This was but you know much ado about nothing right That's the closest we've had to a scandal since he broker from his first wife for yes it was. Yeah it was very close and of all the the history He's been able to manage if he has bad in his life. He's he's definitely managed to keep it away from us. That's absolutely good. Yeah you know one one. Other moment one other point. I wanted to make on that consistency stuff. You talked about a great story of you know getting a good good customer experience and being consistent with that. You know the bad consistency. I have to tell you. I don't know and i'm not gonna mention the airline. Probably everybody would be would probably know which one i'm talking about but they consistently have a bad experience all the time like all the time every person you talk to when you say. Did you fly this. Airline like yeah. It's stinks it's terrible right. it's a horrible experience. I keep thinking you know we. We have so many examples of of good bad experience. Maybe they're setting the bar really really really low so that they can get to a point where they said it really really high is not quite sure. But that's another company that you know another example of just in general how you could be known for bad bag consistency and about experience again. I know like at one point in his life The late great. George jones had a reputation of no show jones right because of his alcohol abuse. You know you consistently would not be at shows like you would buy tickets and you would not know he's gonna show up or not and so The idea that You know. I i had two guys talking about that You know that when the ticket says eight o'clock bruce's by edel five it'll seven bruce's onstage. I know there is no nine thirty. Ten like no bruises. Hey you know it's time to get going now hands down like i said we know we know exactly where it's so consistent in just a you know jeff leagues into the last point which exceptional customer except exceptional experience in. We know what customer experiences that means something to us. And i think i hit on those things that combined altogether right. Which is russa's done all of these things over these years. He is made fans of us. And you know. I've said will allow people ask me how to become a bruce springsteen fan. I said i went to his concert. It wasn't all these albums before. I went to his concert and i couldn't believe it. I didn't know the words the songs. But i'm like i love this guy. I love him right because of because of that. He's giving me something. I didn't know i need is. He's constantly thinking about things that i don't know i ne- i did not know that i needed a podcast from him. I didn't know that i needed an album in the middle of the pandemic. I didn't know that you know. I needed a broadway show that that was unlike anything else. So he's constantly doing all of those things in making that delighting his customers right. He delights us for everything that we do in everything. He does In everybody criticises. D like this. You like that song letter to you. Did you like the album media like this might look. I appreciate everything he's doing and he's he's put it out there. He lays everything out on the floor for everyone he could play to one person. Ten hundred ten thousand and he's going to give you the same performance at in the same thing with this work. He has cried in his work. And you can tell that. He's very much perfectionist. He's very into making sure that you know that that that we're going to hear from him and i do have one thing that one suspicion that i do. Have you talked about the fact that we would see a lot of him here. A lot of him in these surprises if we would have. We know that the can't tour this year. But there's a little festival in asbury park in september. See here now and pearl. Jam is the headliner. Patty is playing in that festival. I you yes. And i do believe that he will be making an appearance with that so that would be awesome. Yeah that's i think we'll be. I think we'll be at at a point there that that we should be the clear. That's my suspicion. I'm going to be there so good good for you The it the exceptional experience is You you tell the story over and over again about the concert experience You know you you can hear people say i. I know he wasn't but he was looking at me like break like i go. You're gonna say it was it. But i'm telling you jesse he was. He was looking at me in the pit. And this you know this was it And the the idea of how do you people who are not fans. Don't understand this and Like they were mocking me One of the managers for the company. I worked for And he was. He had a bunch of friends over and they were talking about this. The sky work with the scene. Bruce like sixteen times. Like i haven't seen my mother in sixteen of sixteen like what what why and And i try to explain like that's actually a small amount for you know fans i said but it's just everyone is that exceptional experience right. It is it is unique and different even when he did the river to a. Were you know. Two thirds of it was the same set that other third was different every night. And it was you know he was out there as you said giving it all the band truly especially i think at this point Know that the road in front of them is shorter than the rope behind them and they only have x. amount of shows left to play and so everyone they play as if it is a gift. We're getting to do this walmart time. Yeah now i. I absolutely agree i do have. I will have one story. Wanna share release fleas. that they're really kinda ties in western stars and a saga happen and something that happened in. The midst of this is really horrible but also customer experience that came out of it to my dog. I don't know if you knew this or not. But my dog I had to put her down in june. And is she was my. She's my heart dog. My first dog and sydney came into my life in arizona. And i brought her home in the very first thing. I did said listen. We're going to have a great life. Rented a lot of things. The one thing that you're gonna do enlisted a lottery springsteen and so i had played bruce springsteen on my way home when she was a puppy she was twelve weeks old and i'm bringing her home and talking to her right and as i had to make this decision we were sitting around the pool and a broader inside and we had gone this great magical Walk that she had not been able to walk for a while. She she she. We took a long time. You know in went around. The neighborhood came back. And i said listen. Girl said you're you're going out of this world. Listen bruce you into my life listening bruce. You're gonna go out listening to bruce and so the put on western stars and that comes in about a now half hour later who we sit down in front of the fireplace and the music playing quietly in the background. And i never had to this. You know i had no idea. She told me what to expect. But i really didn't know exactly what to expect until it happens. And at one point the vet looks me s-occer she goes tammy she's she's gone and i didn't know that she was gone and the song was playing was there goes my miracle. All there was a candle that was in my house. That was burning the time and i retired. I would smell that scent related to that to sydney. Yes so. I ordered this candle and i said an explain why the ordered it and you know what they sent back. The package was addressed to the amazing putt mom of law so that customer experience. Guess what that candle is right here. Yes and i will always buy candles from this company. The guinness that that touch that something that makes your heart feel good gazza. They know that that person knew me. One second my story the non. They knew that that s so i said what a perfect story and i know i know i know you miss her. And but you know what a lovely way through With you there for her in the so and listening to she was your miracle. So that's that's wonderful. I love that story. Thank you very. Oh yeah So bruce right. Bill relationships relevant unforgettable consistent. Exceptional experience Fine advice that. I think any one attending a seminar with a lot of fun. I'm that a little bit. Bruce in it. But it's that's very fun. That's great So javanese you've already suggested you think he may play coming up in the fall in any other thoughts that what might be coming up. No that's the biggest strongest one. That's the that's the bet. I'm hedging on. I'm gonna stay out there for two weeks so i've been to. I'm hoping to stop him. Not kidding i'm to be sore per couple of weeks and And so i. I plan this for a while and especially fiasco so step hub speaking of They didn't respond your money for all the concerts cancelled last year. So yeah Yeah no i. I think that's the idea. Think the second and he has an opportunity to get together. I think we're getting another album too. Yeah i think so too. I think he's got more music demet. And i think they are as eager to tour as we are to hear them. I think they are ready to play. you know and i've now kind of You know i ask people as you shared with me when you're on the podcast. I like you know. What songs are you chasing. And i now go okay with the exception of western stars and letter to you because obviously all of us are dying to hear anything from those two albums live. Yeah yeah hands down. I mean and you know. What was your favorite favorite song from letter to you. I'll see you know. See you in my dreams. Obviously a but if i was the priest was just something that i i've said. That's what outlaw. Pete wanted to be it. Just would somehow the way those. The the music was built together the lyrics in the chorus and max playing the drums I adore it. You know but i. I love letter to you. I you know i love of this. Ghost is on me Mike current You know when. I have an alarm set on my phone. It's currently Power prayer is the song that starts with my phone. So i just think it's. It's it is amazing. It's an amazing album period. I think at his age in this point in his career. It's even more amazing right. I mean you from everything Jesse i mean. His voice sounds better than it has hit musically. It's great the bigness. Just on fire on the entire album like i said there's not one song ago. Oh i really don't like that song and that's that was my bar of how compared the album's because the rising i think one over born in the usa for me. Yeah and then now. This is better to me than the rising and that says a lot. It says a whole lot in. It's the album we needed. That says great Tammy thank you so much for doing this and We will you know we will get together soon to break bread. I you know. Just i miss you. I wanna hug you. I wanted to hear all the stories i wanna. I wanna tell you all the fun that i've had and all the challenges over the past year. I want to hear about all the stuff that you've got going on. So yeah hopefully soon. We'll be able to do this. Oh i'd love that. I love that case for me on. It's so good to see you again. Yes it is if someone wants to reach you. How's the best way to do it. You can reach me on facebook. Tammy collier here in dallas Real tammy sixty real. Tammy three sixty five on instagram on twitter. All right sounds good. Thank you bye friend. This was wonderful listeners. You please stay safe. Remember to social distance. Remember to wash your hands. Remember to wear a mask. Just ignore the texas governor. Just just yeah wear a mask and let's we good each other because that's the only way we're going to get through this and for now. Thank you and we'll talk to you saying goodbye. Thank you so much. Thank you to my patrons andrew goddard. Betsy hodges levi teacher i elizabeth bronson stephen molly eeo. Mac steve rogers dale hosic terry smith. Analyn chris bloom and mary. Thomas you all are my monthly angels. Thank you so much for the love support you. Give on this podcast. 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#60: ANDREW DEANGELO | The Last Prisoner Project

NICE WORK! A Super Nice Club Podcast

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#60: ANDREW DEANGELO | The Last Prisoner Project

"Welcome to nice work. Podcast of his super nice club. Where we're just doing our damnedest to make the world ten percent and we're super glad super glad that you are here to help us get there by every means necessary. I'm your host todd. Brilliant and today we are joined by cannabis industry legend and eminently super. Nice human andrew de ngelo. Andrew has pioneered the cannabis business processes and provided groundbreaking political engagement and thought leadership to the canvas community. He led the design and development of gold standard canvas retail by innovating many firsts for the industry things like introducing cd medicines to heal severely. Epileptic children. implementing the i lab testing program in the history of cannabis dispensing creating child resistant. Packaging edibles standardizing inventory tracking and a lot more. Andrew is also founding board of directors member of the california cannabis industry association the premier cannabis industry trade association in california and. He's also a severely accomplished actor but putting all that aside today andrew is with us primarily to talk about his role as co founder of the nonprofit last prisoner project l. p. p. gotta have acronyms makes things easy. Lp's mission is to free and reintegrate all canvas prisoners on earth into mainstream society. Did you know the cannabis. Legalization in the usa is supported by a strong majority of both republicans and democrats. Yeah one of the things. Both sides seem to agree on. I think it seems reasonable that we can together advocate for the release of the tens of thousands of nonviolent cannabis prisoners who are sitting right now as this voice. This beautiful voice of minature earbuds are in jail for conducting a business that is now so acceptable in mainstream that there are hundreds hundreds. I counted earlier of publicly traded cannabis stocks. Let's not make the same mistake we did. After prohibition when many us citizens were left to rot in jail for providing what the vast majority wanted to consume while fickle and non representative government vacillated. On legalities i mean. Can you imagine someone going to jail for life for making your favourite ita out. Think so a super nice world a super nicer world demands that we free these prisoners and andrew. Along with many many many others are fighting that fight and they want you to join it so listening listening to learn how easy it is for you to help. If you're a cannabis user some would say it's your moral duty. I wouldn't say it's not if you're not so listening. Love to know what you think. Couple of quick items our super nice club member of the week is danielle monk. Danielle is a film student at rochester institute of technology our it as well as an actor writer and comedian we just love her energy smile and style and they're super glad to have her. Have you danielle in the club. Learn more about danielle on instagram. At at danielle. That's d. a. n. y. e. l. l. underscore little line on the bottom monk eight one danielle underscore monk eight one right. This is episode number sixty aka three score. So here are some super nice sixties for you all right. The babylonian cuneiform numerals had a base of sixty inherited from the sumerian and acadian civilizations. Who knew i guess of. You knew numerous logically. Sixty is the number for family home nurturing. That's cool here's my favorite one. The first fullerene to be discovered was buckminsterfullerene. Buckminster fuller is one of the coolest humans to have ever lived. he's on a on a level with with davinci and all the true polymath anyway. The first full rein to be discovers buckminsterfullerene c. sixty and the trope of carbon with sixty atoms in each molecule range. Truncated costs a hebron. The ball is known as a bucky ball and it looks like a soccer ball. The code for international direct dial calls to malaysia is sixty. Two bad things happening in malaysia. Right now not so super nice. The highest attainable level in world of warcraft is sixty but that doesn't include the latest expansions and it's also meant not no this fifty seven plus three. Who knew. Yeah so yeah there's some sixties for you all right ready turn off everything else tune out the rest of the world and drop in too nice work with andrew diangelo all drew. Andrew de ngelo is in the supervised. Love your on nice work. I'm so glad you're here. Welcome bank is great to be with all of you today. l. Larry told you that. So where exactly are you in the bay area. I'm sitting in my home office in the oakland hills and got two beautiful black backdrop behind me this actually. This is a photograph from my backyard of sunset in the past that i took so That's where i am in oakland hills that your resume. Backdrop is your the ass young listeners. All andrew can see is a bunch of blue foam and super nice pueblo. Go in a little bit of acoustic fabric. I think in the podcast video. Not a very sexy book. it's acoustically appropriate. When i really wanna talk here. I just want to jump right into it. Which is your director at the last prisoner project. Which i'm a big fan of so you're here. Twenty dive deep into this is grab some texts from the website to help key this out. Four euro quick. Because is a short video and i think it's so great. I'm just going to read it. And i think you all listeners. Your minds are gonna go. Oh i get it. I get why why. Todd thinks that this is super nice thing that needs to be talked about right here. We go imagine sitting in his cell for years decades or even for life convicted of an activity. That is no longer a crime. While thousands of people built intergenerational wealth. Doing exactly the same thing. That is the situation. That over forty thousand cannabis prisoners face today right now in the united states. That's to me that just kinda says everything. So just take it from there. Well that's a shocking statistic. I'm sure everyone is that's listened to that probably didn't know the four is one of the reasons we started last prison project. My brother stephen. I and other co co-founders now the organization is i can't say we're all grown up. Were on our feet at least and we had our best month ever in january. Fourteen long-term serving prisoners decade long long serving prisoners. Were release. not just last a project. There's lot of wonderful working on this. There's cage free cannabis news others too many to list but so many organizations working on either social justice social. I actually have a arkham playboy that drop today where i talk about this a little bit more more on the social equity side but our mission is to get everybody out of prison. Who's locked up for weed. That this is. They never should have been locked up in the first place. And now we're legalized cannabis all over the country in the world. And they're they're are gigantic. We'd operations publicly traded in canada on other places that are literally hundreds of millions worth hundreds of millions and even billions of dollars in some cases and those companies are doing the exact same thing that all those folks are are still locked up for. So something's wrong with that picture and we were just this moment of time. We're in this moment of time. We're transitioning you know and we all have to pitch in and help with that so that that last prisoner project is trying to accelerate the process of getting people out and writing the wrongs of that past. And you know. Hopefully our organization ends sunday. Everybody's out where we can just a job well done move on to the next The next challenge the next the next thing to make the world nicer right. Yeah absolutely here's to that is one of the things that gets talked about a little bit getting ready to change law here in california it was prop two fifteen was the first one to thirteen. Fifteen was a thing. People are talking about it. If i remember correctly took a couple of times the pass or maybe it happened in the first but there other propositions to legal yes. No california had quite a few propositions failed. A tooth of seeing was the first one that succeeded. Nineteen ninety six and medical when that was going through and then later once people were talking about like. Hey so when the day comes when cannabis is is legalized recreationally. What's going gonna happen. All the people that are in prison that are in jail and the answer was usually i. You know We'll figure out so it's one of those things that nobody knew what we're gonna do. So this is why you exist and this has happens. Not just with cannabis laws but anytime there's a law that changes were something that was illegal either. Gets completely decriminalized or from a felony to a misdemeanor or something like that. It doesn't mean that people go free. Can you explain i. I think a lot of people assume that that might be the case. Can you explain why it requires. What is your require a pardon or something like that to get these people out while. I'm glad you raised that point because most people do assume that when a law changes everyone just gets out and everything's cool and that's not the case at all so our prisoners unfortunately are very much forgotten in our society. In whether they're violent criminals are cannabis prisoners. The conditions of of prisons are horrifying and the treatment of our prisoners is terrible and there's a lot of reform that's needed. They're thankfully some of that reform is beginning to happen. And you know we just got to get people out For for canvas it. It's our moral imperative to do it and the reason it's so hard to get people out as because once you've been busted and all. Your appeals have been exhausted. you're convicted. You're in jail. And the only way to get out is a pardon or mutation by governor or president or sometimes depends on what state you live in. Sometimes it's a parole board. Does it usually governor. And it's really hard to get those folks to sign commutations for anybody and canvas prisoners too so it just takes a lot of workers enormously difficult to do. If you're going through the appeal process. We unfortunately last prisoner project doesn't have the resources to help with that yet but hopefully people can can do. Better in appeals. Now that legalization is happening. Juries are starting to see what's going on with the disparity between the legalisation folks getting busted So i just normally hard so And then when we legalize weed what we have to do is we have to pass certain provisions in the law that hopefully would retroactively release. Everybody we haven't been able to get that done anywhere It's too politically risky for the legislatures in any state to agree to that but we have had mass expunged records in places like colorado and illinois. We've had thousands literally in sometimes of thousand is that after they've served their sentences. The record young buddy asked me. That's your record carried. That goes with you after his service record and that makes it very hard to get part makes it very hard to get a job. It makes your imagine if you're a landlord employer and somebody has a criminal record. What what how do you feel about hiring them or giving them department. You probably will probably choose someone who doesn't have the record. If given the choice right. So i again. Our prisoners are lost. There's so much biased against them and and when you locked up for some that have been a grime in the first place. No you can't get an apartment or job. Because you have this thing following you around its particularly frustrating and demoralizing so we work on expunging records and that's called expunge -ment and that's a whole nother process. It's not too different than commutation. Basically submitting petitions to different boards. Parole board government agencies and people that handle the justice system in any particular state or sometimes the feds And you're trying to get those records expunged and that really helps. People reinterred society which is the third thing that last prisoner project has we help people reenter and since we just got a few people out where were excited. We've been posting. A lot of people can check out our social media last prisoner project our our website last prisoner project dot org really easy to plug in. You don't have to give money that you want to write a letter to a prisoner. You can do that too. there's lots of different ways to get involved. It doesn't necessarily involve money and You know all altogether if we work hard enough and sacrifice in. We're going to get this done. So it's entirely possible and the winds are back and i'm more building momentum. We have very long long long way to go and big mountain to climb. But you know for those that are lockups. We'd there's hope there's a little bit of hope right now there's last resin proctors other groups. There's people like me. That are working really hard you know. I could do anything with with my time in cannabis industry. But i'm doing this and And so a lot of things which we're going to get to. You've been doing a lot of things for a long time so that you put your time into this is huge. I want to go back to what you said vinegar. Which is that you said in january. Fourteen people out now. That's working people around. The country is at fourteen around the country. The longest serving non beila cannabis prisoner michigan. Michael thomson he was released and many others. And these were long-serving prisoner so go back to michael. Welcome back michael. You have fourteen released. What is that look like. Does that mean you're working on twenty five or two hundred i mean. How much does it takes fourteen out and these are individual. I would imagine right each case. You have to go to a judge. Roy took it took thousands of hours like People all kinds of different lawyers all the different organizations. It wasn't just our organization all kinds of people. Doing pro bono were And it was a real village. It took years and years and years and years and years and years and years to get these folks out lp was the pri- the last two years. We've only been around two years so we got into. We join the collaborative effort. You know two years ago but there were all kinds of folks working on this What dd kirkman and You know. I mentioned cage cannabis in others so our pipeline is. Yeah our pipeline is. Yeah forty thousand four but you know of course. We have to prioritize and people that are long. Serving prisoners are part of our priority and also doing the low hanging fruit like a sponge. Mint is a big priority. To get that done. So we try. To balance out our limited resources you know and right now are actually investing lot of our fundraising into reentry in. You'll see in our social pictures of people that have gotten re entry grants from us and Their story and i'm thankful that we are now it a place where our constituents that have been released can basically us run the organization and soon will run the entire organization. I'm sure You know in a matter of time that that's one of the things we're trying to do is employ these these prisoners ourselves masters project Lead by example so our entire reentry division actually is led by former prisoners. And so that's another part of this too and and we try to place folks who want to be placed in the cannabis industry and of course a lot. Folks are on supervised release. It's not you know it's not toto released yet. We're still working on that. You've just got to get people out you know these these terrible environments of people are in separate from their loved ones. They can't do anything. Can work coming money a guy get him out and then you know. We try to get the release supervised release taken away november two and sometimes they can't be have a job that touches the cannabis plant. You know they have to have a job. That isn't exhilarate job or know some other job bookkeeping department or something like that And so we we figure out ways of complying with the law vying with the release making sure that you know the folks that are on the other side of the table with us our our our our jails are sheriffs in our Prison boards. They're not our enemies or not. Trying to be contentious there there really are partners and so It's important that you know. I honor and recognize them to and anybody in that are your listeners. Are part of that community. Please reach out to us so we can work together. I'm sure you'd like get nonviolent canada's prisoners out so you can focus on on the more hardcore folks and that's a good reminder to thank all of the. I'm not sure who governors judges juries. Anybody who has agreed to have these senses clemency. Granted annex sponged my legal. Yeah no it's a really great to do. Yeah really brave thing to do in this political environment. We live in today. It's a really great thing to do. No matter what you do on this issue you get people out or key people in the you're gonna get crushed by somebody and if you keep people when you're gonna get crushed by people like me and a new potentially But but it's really not about crushing each other hating on each other. Like i said we're all partners in this together and there's no reason abbey's folks locked up in prisoners threats to society and It's just causing all tax payers a ton of money. It's it's the right thing to do and so working together. i hope we can accelerate the process. You know having said all that it's it's moving parts to slow in on our partners on the other side is hey will have to get in gear really honestly and stop dragging feet a little bit. What are some of the big primary objections to release. He needs prisoners while the the objections. Is that these. are you know. there's a. There's a good portion of law enforcement and even regular society. Maybe even your listeners who thank cannabis should be illegal and criminal act to grow transport shell consume cannabis and folks that do that rightfully should be locked up into release them is to cause harm and danger to society. There are people that really honestly with all your heart and soul believe that will believe that probably till the day they die and you know that's just a fact. We live in a society a free society a democratic society. And so right now. The of people want to see this plant legalized for medical certain and in many places for all adults. And that's how you run a peaceful free societies majority rules. It took us a long time to to reach. These majorities were at overwhelming majorities for legalization ninety percent for medical sixty eight percent for adult. We're winning mississippi and south dakota and places like that for elections. The people have spoken in. It's time for our leaders to listen and and certainly getting people out of prison is the first thing we can do. But but certainly you know we have to create access to this plan affordable access to this plant to everybody Because that's that's how we're going to get the job done and create jobs and and prisons and create economic activity in in sustainable activity. I might add And not just on the medical or intoxication side of it. There's a whole industrial hemp conversation. I'm sure you've had but industrial hemp s- gonna make the world a lot nicer to and And so we're in this beginning of this cannabis hemp renaissance. That's my brother. Steve calls canvas renaissance in. And it's really exciting to be a part of it Anybody out there listening. That's not a part of it. That's intrigued come on in it's a it's a. It's we could use your talent and skill and the canvas industry has the opportunity to be a new kind of industry that is sustainable embraces diversity that allows people colored up just a little bit ownership but massive ownership whilst and we can really create something new and maybe a model for other and industry. So that's the vision to have a vision. If you wanna get the wanna get to the destination absolutely. They'll making the world nicer like your program says you know that's the essence of it so people who are listening to this and getting fired up about it or they're already interested because that's why they play like our canvas. Prison formula my podcast. There are a number of ways to help out with with your project right letter. Writing partners freedom is that what is the partners them. Rolling people do There's so many different ways started with the website. Right reliable project dot org slash get involved. I think it is Or get active one of those two. We list all the programs that you can plug into your cannabis company. Roll it up for. Freedom is a program where where people give their change at the register into a little bucket that says last prisoner project. You can also do that. Digitally partners of freedom is a similar program. But it's for cultivators manufacturers and they give us more small portion of their sales you know two of each unit To to last prisoner project. Those two programs. The industry's really responded. that that accounts for a big chunk of our fundraising. Of course you know. Any nonprofit is relies on bo. Small large donors. Of course we do too. We also do fundraising events. More pre covid than now course but but but we do that and sometimes virtual events. We have a great advisory board. You can check out on the website. Lots of celebrities. Damian marley jim belushi melissa ethridge some pretty amazing human beings A whole bunch of other people. I don't want to be there. All maze human beings at hand. And they all help us to and Yes the letter writing campaign on the website is i is a really rewarding thing to do that and cautious a stamp being a pen pal. Canada's prison is really uplifting experience When you're when you're locked up you get that letter. I cannot overstate how a may what the feeling is when you get a letter when you're locked up in prison it really gives you a sense of hope and connection and belonging and that's something that you're being seen and that you're being hurt and that can just mean the world to a prisoner that's having a really crappy day locked up and they get that letter. It's it's a lifeline. So i encourage people to do that. All right get it write a letter. I'm here by commit to writing at least one letter by the end of this this weekend today friday that we're doing this conversation so anybody else out. There wants to commit to writing a letter commits letter. I will send you in the mail something. I dunno. Patch surprise patched stickers. I don't know what insist honor system right so just message super nice job one way or another. If you're gonna do a letter. I mean you're going to do it anyway. But just because you're being super nice. It's not like you're doing it. Quid pro quo to get some free super nice stickers. But if it'll just kinda help you. I'll send you stay. I'll send you a little swag. Get any letter writers out there. Also another challenge. If you're a coffee drinker we go get coffee. It's like five bucks the tip right go without today without an text freedom right now. Two four three six five word freedom to two four three six five and just send that by bucks descended into last prison project. There's probably i'm just guessing. I think we can click. We can become a monthly donor. You'll never missed that five bucks. It'll come out somewhere once a year but that's sixty bucks a year that they can count on because once you once you become a monthly donor unless your credit card installing you never quit. You're on the hook. You know you're forever give her so commit to that if you can Freedom numbers two four. Three six five. That'll be in the show notes as well. So those are some ways that people can get involved. I noticed that you mentioned the big companies are getting involved. there are such huge companies are holding companies. There's like top of my head doses canopy men and others that are building wild wild wealth. Some these are part of billion dollar holding companies. So are you getting a lot of support from the industry for the last prison project. Getting as much as you think you should be getting. What's the industry doing. How are they chipping in. What's gimme gimme a great. Give me a report card for the industry. I would see. What will we add much. I would say we're do about c- We we still have a lot more support that we we need to get But we do have some big multi state operators. That are doing great work for us. All of that is also on the website by the way our our partners and in brand partners there's giant list of employees support them by their products dispensaries and You know it's a big. It's a big part of of how we exists. But you're right. I mean we've just scratched the surface of the potential and not just our organization all the social justice equity organizations need a lot of donations from These folks that you mentioned should be donating millions of dollars to these organizations. Russia should be millions and millions of dollars. They should be doing. And and you know. We're lucky if we can get a five figure donation you know from from now our partners you know we. We've got some partners that are just crushing it And m were gaining steady monthly income. That's that's quite amazing But there's also a lot of folks do more than onto enough so You know we just gotta keep telling the story and and you know. I'm hoping core building some momentum you know emperor with each prisoner were able to release. It helps us release more and helps bill momentum and how people believe that we can do it and you know and so wanna be associated with him in your your company gets associated with lpn pretty big way or all the other justice groups You get a pretty powerful sociation that your customers can come to appreciate and and and create loyalty With so that's that's what's in it for the company's your cannabis use out there wherever brand. You're using check in with them see. If they're supporting a social justice movement in the cannabis world. They're supporting financially If they are keep sporting that brand if not maybe consider telling that brand you'd love to support them again once they commit to giving back to this community just just not yet just about it. Pressure does work especially since a lot of these companies are still so young says a nascent industry. There are listening. They're they're hyper competitive. They are a. It's an industry. Where consumer feedback does mean a lot of before we jump off this topic. If you're still listening to this and you're you're like that compassion switch that you have which is huge. You have a big heart. Because i had to believe that all humans do but sometimes it's restricted in little areas. And you just you're compassionate which is kinda short-circuiting around this topic of allowing nonviolent needs to be reset nonviolent offenders out of prison because you just kind of think well crimes crime you got to serve your time. I'm just asking you to maybe just sit for a second later and think about where your opposition is coming from and think about. This industry is more and more widely legal every day all around the united states and people who have served time you know the these these are people who have served time and how much time you have to serve vary state by state. The laws are crazy and oftentimes really unfair. See to confide in you to think. Oh yeah you know what maybe it would be better for everybody involved if these people were freed from prison i can't argue and neither can andrew facts and figures because we know that when you're sort of set in your way on one side or the other of a subject those don't really mean anything because we will filter anything that works against what we what we think we know. I'm asking you to instead. Just come out from sort of a compassionate for humanity perspective. But just you know think about it. Think about think about lowering your resistance on this topic. I didn't really get that across super cleanly but you get the spirit. What i'm saying right under. I think. I thought i was very eloquent. We know we we all have to open our minds to to to new ways of thinking right now clearly a lot. We ought to have we. We have a lot to fix so about you about andrew. Besides last prison projects your mission your mission in life i saw a quote in forbes inequality was saying my goal is and has always been to create a new industry with new values for society. Great quote in forbes. What are these days well. It's kindness not cruelty. It's sustainability not unsustainable it some It's equality not inequality. It's love not hate peace. not war right. it's it's you know it's it's the golden rule man it it's really it's it's we have a everything's about the transaction right now and and and we have to make things about the transactions are important and we all have to you know have motivations to to make energy happened so we can keep a roof over our heads. But there's li really gotten out hit with it right and men were in a moment of crisis on this planet. Now where we we really have to take a look at hauer behaving in. Examine it in everything from top to bottom. It's just now what's going on in prison. We feed ourselves in how we house ourselves. We you know all those things when when we're talking about sustainability in particular We're gonna have to remake all of that. There's a ton of opportunity in the bat. Transformative acts on that Bill gates just wrote a book about this. We have this thing called cannabis and other plant medicine. Visionary plant medicine and i believe these plants do a lot of that work for us. You can't change people from outside and it just doesn't work you can make all intellectual arguments you want. You can present all the data in the world but if you don't move people in our hearts or emotionally you're not gonna change and plant medicine. Does that when you take cannabis or take other plant. Visionary is changes you it changes how you feel changes your consciousness changes your body changes you're paying profile It changes your outlook. Give you inspiration and hope make you feel more connected to nature. People give you a sense of patience understanding of others empathy. These are qualities we need to enhance and These plants Do that for us. In our job is to get in the hands of everybody in a ford -able safeway and way that i hope people will have consensus around is legal and safe and accessible to everybody. So that's the moment we're in. We're in the moment of building that a bridge to that to that world and it's it's it's a it's a great adventure were on right now. I i do see a lot of We're gonna win some in lusa along the journey of creating a new kind of industry. You know there's gonna be some aft- up elements to the global cannabis. Industry is going to be plenty of non-sustainable not very well behaved actors on the stage. Anything that bulbs commerce you know. I think has that. But we have to get this client widely distributed to seven billion people. So there's going to be a little bit of exuberance along the way and there's gonna be some other things along the way and some unintended consequences you know we all just have to hold hands in believe and trust the plant. The plant knows what to do. Everybody will come to see that and feel that themselves if we do our job. Well you've been doing your job for a while. And now you're recognized widely as one of the just the top consultants globally around canvas But that's because you've been doing this for a while. So can you talk about. I mean going back to the the prop to fifteen advocacy. Which was so huge. California's always a leader in this stuff Because we're just big and a bunch of dirty hippies and but also harbourside early leader bay area there. Can you take us through a little bit. Like you're cutting your teeth into the industry. And also i wanna know when you knew you can remember. Was there a moment like this is gonna be my i. I'm going to be a disciple. An advocate of of of this plant. This is my big thing ever have to. Did you ever have that moment was was there is a while ago. The stigma is so much greater around canvas right which universally. Ooh but when you started. I wonder if anyone tried to steer clear of it. Well i had the benefit of my older brother. Steve's the angelo Who's about ten years older than me. So i had a guy i grew. I grew up with cannabis all around me and my brother industry in he. He exposed needed cannabis athlete as a kid. So i didn't take cannabis from my brother until i was in high school. I got hurt. And i had a physical injury and i was depressed as well and I decided to take the joint that my brother offered me. When he saw how miserable. I was one day. My mom's kitchen and dan. I have that transformative experience pretty much right away and and my physical pain went away and and i knew at that moment. That the plant would be with me. The rest of my life that i've worked with the plant and worked with my brother and i knew it at that very moment. Yeah you had a. Did you see a football injury that what a tennis player so attended to get back on the court tennis one of those sports that you have to make a young at wanted to be a professional so in high school. I was off the injured. Put me offer almost a year so that pretty much killed it. I did of course like all young and stubborn men Came back and tried to to to play again. But i wasn't really able to reach level i want it and and And i got interested in other things that cannabis. I was still smoking. We all the time. When i got back on the court and i was you know exploring theater arts and acting and hanging out with creative kids and smoking weed with them and you know it might. My mind was opening up to other things and being a professional athlete. Seems less interesting At that point so so. I went off to college and studied theater arts and took a half a pound of weed with luckily didn't get caught on the airplanes with it and Sold weed out the dorms and and advocated as best you could in nineteen eighty live on campus without getting kicked out and destroyed but managed to graduate with honors and cannabis. I wanted to be an actor in a professional creative early might lightfoot but also really good at the canvas trail so after my studies were done i rejoined my brother sore. The rest is history. We had to legalize weed. So i'm we were trading lead underground and we legalized medical like you said prop to fifteen and and then we also did the same thing in washington. Dc couple years later in nineteen ninety eight. The federal government would not allow simplemente the law in washington. Dc so that Alienated us quite a bit in. And then of course my brother got busted so that wasn't so we we got out of the east coast as quickly as we get the legal case behind us and started over in california than we were lucky and fortunate and skilled enough to get the one of the first dispensary licenses ever issued by municipality the city of oakland And open harbourside. Oh six twenty. Oh six we pretty much instantaneously or a big overnight success and Lots of people embraced what we're doing their patients and vendors growers and healers and doctors and community leaders and nonprofits and we all had a really built a community center there And that lasted until twenty eighteen when adult used came in and unfortunately the adult used framework in california's not very good and and killed. Allow the good stuff that was in the medical program. We've been trying to clean it up ever since said unfortunately haven't had much success But i'm hopeful that as soon will be able to reform prop sixty four and open up the state you know. Sixty percent of california still banned Seventy five percent of michigan's ban forty percent. Colorado even is banned so we have all these bands at the local level and always stigma problems. Still little bit by little bit. I think we'll will open things up and and but that that's the story of harbourside now. I left harborside a year or two ago. We took company public in the canadian stock. Exchange out for la different reasons. We had some legal hassles with the federal government. We add to raise money to fight in. Clean up by So i accident. Harbourside started last. Prisoner project started little consulting business. So i helped people all over the world. Countries start their cannabis. Companies are all or optimize their current cannabis operations or help groups or legacy groups. Get in or stay in or be in the industry. And i'm now really excited about things like mexico legalizing and What's going on in other parts of the world. I'm starting to consult internationally in boy. I can't wait to be able to travel again so i can do that. Work a little bit You know i'm a very much a retail leader like to be with people like to be embedded in my projects in scenes that i'm working on And so it's really hard not to be able to do that. I had questions from the super. Nice club insider community won't be part of the community you can ask. Questions of the guests All kinds of stuff. We give away for free all the time on their never never with any sort of sales staff. It's just a fun inspirational texting thing. You can be part of just text text. I would have been attacks. Text freedom as well ex freedom to three one zero four two one zero three nine three three one zero four. Two one zero three nine three Anyway so we have two questions from the insiders one is from dominique. She's right here in los angeles. She wants to know if you predict any changes during the biden era regarding prison reform. And i'll follow up on that a little bit by you asking you know. How sure are these gains. Are they just think that they can be easily withdraw in another administration will dominate That's a great question. I think it's going to be up to us to really put a lot of pressure on the biden administration to do more. The trump administration is the one that release those prisoners in in january that i mentioned so it's up to the by administration. Do better than that. Certainly they should right. You'd think so that would be the intuitive instinctual Thought there so. I'm very hopeful that we will have prison reform. I hope major prisoner reform in biden's i. I'm not sure it will happen before the midterm elections in my new they they they might get scared to. Which is i. don't think good strategy but that's another another week. Yeah but but now. I'm very hopeful. Vote for prison. Reform very hopeful for cannabis in prison reform and more and more expunged in in reentry and release. I am very hopeful. It won't be easy and we'll lose him will loosen battles. Can you it back in the bottle. Are we in danger of people get locked up for we'd again could. This could could could this cat reverse. Yeah it could get reverse. We have to make sure it doesn't. I don't think there's so much momentum behind us that it would be very very hard to reverse but you just think about some scenarios that could happen. I mean you know If if if there was a terrible accident involving cannabis. There is a terrible thing to happen. She got her route. Forbid the thing could change circe on public opinion to change and so we have to do our job right. we have to do the same. We have to make people feel good safe. That's why we have to be responsible. We have to do a better job than the regular industries. We have to behave better than the normal business. Folks we have to you know do more and more improve ourselves and build trusts. It's very very important so yes it can be taken away. We have to keep up the pressure as well. You know if you r biden voter. And you're expecting that administration to do things that were promised. Don't do that. you know. Make the phone calls. Keep up the pressure and while we're asking for things ads for biden to get the boot off the neck of the students you know and go for these larger college. Loan forgiveness all right. He's resistant in his administration Resistant can't say administration is resistant to meaningful college. Debt reduction and we gotta change for the next generation coming up to not have crushing. It was so restful ridiculous it is ridiculous we need. We need college tuition jubilee jessica from santa rosa fear to me. Santa rosa california has question. This is a long one. I just read it for the first time. Here will probably buttress. What is the cannabis community doing to be inclusive to other social justice movements. What does the industry doing. The lessen the institutional harms or prohibition from access implicit bias impressive language. That is a big question. Well we're not doing enough as for sure. But i i can tell you that. Our nonprofits social justice organization last prisoner project we collaborate with lots of other Social justice groups and we want to collaborate with more and more social just that that's very important that that we do that because we have strength in numbers and an ownership for people caller in cannabis industry is is nineteen percent for for for black folks. It's only four percent. It's no good We we gotta do a lot better than i wanna see. Forty fifty sixty seventy percent. That's the kind of industry i'm talking about. And that's gonna that's gonna require a lot of work and sacrifice and people figuring out a way to support these these businesses in these entrepreneurship Were not supporting them enough. Whether it be the grant money is being raised. Not being distributed right or whether it's Not enough investment in capital going into the social equity and social justice movements the social justice movement in particular In canvas side of things. You know we lost a lot of our funders to to for different reasons. Some of them just passed away some funding other things because they all look at the industry and they say well you have industry now. They industry should fund it. It shouldn't be me superwealthy person. I want to go fund. You know. Saving the planet You've got industry now. You need to fund it. Then you know we have a hard time getting industry to funded so in in in some respects. There's and in some pockets and maybe more than some are group's are not being funded. Our social justice in social equity groups are not being funded so we we need like we said a minute ago. Now we need these big big groups to step up and people are afraid because they don't want to compete and you know it's like come on and that's just the lamest excuse world create a level playing to you If we create eleven plainfield arc community legacy people like me people of color clear folks women people. Small businesses will compete. We'll compete just fine. Give us a level playing field. Very few of us want global domination. Some of us do go for. That's your thing no problem but most of us were just want our spot you know. We want our spot. We won't be able to provide for our families our communities maybe a little regional company And and we have that right in that obligation to make sure that happens. We can't have big corporate canvas. Eat all at a in fact. It's in their best interest to make sure those businesses exist in the ecosystem. We need corporate canvas to make sure hemp crete replace concrete need corporate candidates. Make sure that hemp fiber get is replaces steel and other heat conducting elements reaching conduct heat with plants. We don't have to use metals extracted materials. I mean there's just so much you can do And corp canvas can do all already doing those things and can do those things in can invest in things and get a lot more scale than selling people joints man and we can leave that ecosystem to our people And i think that that's that's sort of division icier. I wanna see I think we can. You know it'll be struggle. None of this comes easy to answer the questions from santa rosa. Hope on the answering the question. I i'm hopeful the industry doesn't do enough it's hard More and more is happening and we got to put the pressure. We just gotta putting the pressure on. But i'm seeing a lot of hopeful things right now. On i this month for black history month i visited for black owned dispensaries in san francisco and i did a little video. Adam let people know about him. Where and then. I went to the onto today. They had a whole display of other equity brands and products. That you could buy Dozens of of brands that are owned by people color. And you can support these companies now there in the market did not as big as we want. There's not as many as we want. But they're there and you you gotta dig for you gotta look for it. And that wasn't there five years ago and i think your answer is is right to the point at the end there. Which is that top down like you said you know. I gotta change from the bottom up or from the inside out so as the supporter as a as a purchaser. I don't like the word consumer. I just think it's really belittling a as a purchaser of these products. You can hop online take a look at who the people are that owned the company. If that's the people you want support. I'm probably wildly wrong here. But it imo saying the product is the product about same. You know samsung phone or apple phone or whatever phone. it's the same thing one. It's nitpick over differences but you're gonna get good products. Probably so goes all in the small. Y'all yeah equity shops in the legacy shops. You're going to get better product into crafts Well they pay attention to the product. Is they care about the product because they smoke product themselves So i mean this is just like winemaker. Our bread maker You know this is. There's real craft in in these folks and They're applying and so so you get a better experience. By and large for cannabis the actual cannabis itself. You have We do this thing. We were the guests issue. A supervised challenge you issue. Challenge the listeners. Something they can do to make their world or the world around them in a little bit nicer. It could be a one shot thing by. Hey write a letter to prisoner. It could be something. They do as part of their new routine every day. Got the for people. That's a really fantastic. Recoil you have there well. My first instinct is handsome. Buddy canvas product for free Whether it be a cbd gummy or a thc joint or wherever you live that that'd be my first instinct but but on a personal care basis just to make the world a little nicer we take care of ourselves right but i i the south than the family than the city than the country right in the world. So we we move outward and i ve been trying to slow down to slow everything death and whether you do that with meditation sometimes you can get a guided meditation apps for free or to slow everything down. Take the grateful. Just be in the moment and entrust yourself because if you're doing this if you're listening to this you're on the road to try to make the world a nicer place so make yourself nicer by slowing down being grateful for yourself and carrying on hand somebody from we go even lower. Yes that's right that's slow down. I was in the years now in in Elise summer love. And i got busted and believes you still love it. 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I was just like this. Is i stopped shortly after college too. Yeah i'm kelly sober. Yeah anyway so that was my first great question. Always go way too long on on tangents on now. That's a great great the lesson in there and that's the certain setting lesson right of course Some people might say the sanitation of the Rusty old can might be your second lesson. But i forgive young and strong you can get through the rusty can but having to go back to detention stoned is not a good look at night with my. Somebody had a pipe but they didn't have a screen so i opened the window. My bedroom is six scissors and cut some of the brilliant green window so sorry well mom's not here anymore but sorry mom sure that costs us later on our deposit. No that is ingenious. Though in jeans nest andrew thank you so much. Thanks for spending your time with us. I really do appreciate it. I do hope people get involved again. 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Really Awful Movies: Ep 334  Bats

The Really Awful Movies Podcast

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Really Awful Movies: Ep 334 Bats

"Up of the news this evening is speculation concerning the real facts behind the department of health announcement about a radioactive spill. Supposed to have a cut yesterday at the state nuclear plant. You'll die only to live again in a younger body. Then you could tell me if the operation was a success brain. You're listening to the really awful movies. Podcast a celebration of genre cinema. Hi my name is chris and along with jeff. We talk about movies. That aren't really awful. At all horror action kung fu musicals post apocalyptic women in prison films and much much more from our downtown headquarters episode three thirty four. The really awful movies podcasts. Nineteen ninety nine's bats going to start this discussion here with a little little thesis here. About one of our favorite genres animals. Runamuck nature runamuck animal attack movies. And i was going to run by you. Get your thoughts now. I think it can be subdivided into three distinct categories. I you got your. I guess creatures that were not normally afraid of so. That would be your dogs and your birds and you could slot movies like kujo or hitchcock's. The birds are any one of these movies into that category. So it makes you into something. You're not ask one of our alternative favorites lupus in the second category throw in creatures that everyone in their right mind is deathly afraid of so i talked on this podcast before but my encounter with a bear in algan par three or four hours north of toronto and the thing was like within ten fifteen feet of us than we are cowering in my car and shining the headlights on it. The there's there's stuff like well. The notorious nineteen seventy six. There's also back country. The exemplary canadian production that came out a couple of years ago and the the obvious ones would be jaws and a killer crocodile. The awesome movie row and the third category is stuff. That's a little bit achey but you're not particularly afraid of it or maybe you're somewhat indifferent than you could be swayed one way or the other and you can slot in movie slugs or i think in this case bats so i don't know how you feel. They're not particularly polarizing. People seem to like them. I mean they have really cool sonar in the they have batman. And all this kind of stuff. So they're not maybe the the creature the go-to creature put in a creature feature. I think your theory is is very out of my life. I would put batts in the second category in. You're definitely want sent terrified. Because their winter. Camp when i was a kid off ers control new and howard none teary and the app was invested by bats and with these distinctions of houses. We had all wanna do for fear to the hearts of us happens. Never nine ten years old and every time in bed out. It's not about my flights. The cabin get your hair. Nece- comment concede the best. You get because of the iran Whatever saw dust get your hair your head go home ball about that really is amazing as it is your countless seemingly tales of your camp crusty experience. It sounds so early. I can't even talk only way. I can approach that is maybe i guess begging my parents to let me out of this one camp because i could make any friends in the first week. It was one of those multi sport camps and i prefer to go to the ones where you could actually In the ones. I actually excelled in tennis or soccer but these other ones with baseball in hockey. Unlike a i'm so screwed. And i was begging my mom and but yeah didn't champion of all stripes can be too so fraught with peril and i mean this movie is fraught with peril too because like any good animal attack movie or bad one for that matter. You gotta have a scientists. Who plays god frankenstein. Type figure in bats is no different. You got the subject of some weird echo-location experiment where some guys doing some various thing in some arizona cave. There is some research facility in you know. The sure is bob's your uncle. These things get loose and start to wreck havoc on the landscape on the populace. You gotta have that and if you don't you want your movie is almost lacking i mean. It's a it's a foreshadowing. It's a caveat in how we treat to nature you're not enough for example in a day of the animals category for that because he's got slavery apple. You can't kiss on a nice strike of lightning as well radio station but yet often not mind right now is the nest that way back. When i believe it was a cocker kissing. Mutated and i mean you gotta have since various company or scientist who is doing testing on animals for some reason easily asked you with Biological warfare sometimes no yes and You also have to have your authority figure. And at the time this was released this would have been even. I think ten years after seeing lou. Diamond phillips on a marquee would have gotten anyone other than him and his immediate family excited. I mean this. This is a man who was in la bomba. He was in stand and deliver where he was nominated for. I think a best supporting actor rule. He used to be a prominent figure in movies for about two or three years he was he was everything and then he's been relegated to sort of police. Procedural b-movie obscurity ninety seven thousand film or four times. I suffer have never seen another. What i think you can say. His career took a ritchie valens. Kind of and. I feel bad about saying this. Because the thing he's best known for is losing his wife to melissa ethridge and that's so like pathetic. I mean like you try and be all progressive and when it comes to sex and all that kinda thing but like george costanza if you pushed your your your woman toward lesbianism. There's something kind of embarrassing. It's like being somewhat cuckolded. But that's all. I can picture when i see this guy's face and it's too bad too is he's quite good in rule is the police officer. And it gives the valley arizona. If i say yes and as funding ends we have a soccer in a cave for bats and that would be one. Dr sheila casper and she's played by dina meyer who i think a lot of listeners. From a saw films his social trooper. I ever her most l. as do why men like she she's Cut quite a figure. It just makes me laugh when these these people. Who have this theater pedigree from new york which i believe is accurate does and she's got a great look. She's very lovely. She had had at the time. Curly hair and then she's doing this utter schlock. But that's what you do. That's that's how you earn your stripes. That's how you get ahead in the business but it's funny. I mean while this is schlock. There's a lot of science as far as her role is concerned. And there's a lot of biological investment and this is pretty talking for a movie of this type. And i gotta say i kind of appreciate that as someone with a bit of a science background myself. There's a lot of like arcane y- biological jargon thrown it a quite like that and these bats. I guess we going to discuss them. Because like i went to the university of toronto as i think you know two hundred year old university. Whatever it is and it's got neo gothic architecture a prominently featuring guard oil sticking out at every turn and that's what these creatures reminded me of. They weren't really bad like in any particular way. They are more gargoyles esque. But i thought that really added to the the intrigue and i thought this movie had a really nice combination of practical and special the other kinds of special effects as these. Yeah these creatures would attack like unmasks. Allow the hitchcock. Birds tippi hedren vehicle. I thought that was pretty cool. And it also ripped the i guess innards asunder and may quirk of the townsfolk. And there's a pretty great scene where the corners looking at this guy's the belly with his intestines basically hanging out like he's been the victim of jack the ripper and they're like they're completely befuddled as to what could have happened in they're asking this biologist who is also befuddled because batstone to operate like this and most of them are what's herbivorous erm never s or at the very least their empire bats. They don't attack in this manner so something is afoot. It's because i thought that exactly there's a scene when a car is simply covered with with bats and that reminded me of the birds was basco. Yes it is a mixture of tax cc cetera also has real guys on said but the real intent wants a real back dot with the bunch it of phases game gave louis fights. You'll see that the to the extent whether this movie is for the birds. I would say there's a lot of influences other movies as par for the course but this in addition to the birds i think i would throw in. Maybe the descent because the spell the spelunky happens toward the end and Jeeze maybe even a bit of an alien vibe as you have these characters. The bedecked in what looks like mandalorian outfits poking around with like you know the flashlights. In the dark and i thought it would have been i think more interesting had they front end loaded the movie with the actual bats the cave rather than saving that intrigued for the last five minutes. But i could be wrong. I thought that was quite an impactful scene where they're trekking through the back boob the mud. Yeah and they're like waist. Deep in all this direction it looked really gross and sinister. But the you'd think you'd start at the point. That i think they called it. It was at the roost. That's where these bats all together and do whatever it is that's and you think that's where they would've maybe started this instead of having just a bunch of people attacked and then going backwards as it were to just figure out how they can prevent these things from From spreading there's an. I gotta say there's this the encroaching what we've learned with this terrible terrible sidekick who's like a tech assistant to the the sheriff in the chief of biologist here. He goes by kimmy. Who does he think he is. Like madonna cher. He's not a one moniker. Men this guy is just some sort of random You know comedy drama player of little renown at least to me. And he's got this sort of thankless role of basically saying. I don't wanna be around here when these things go crazy. I want to be up in alaska where they can't get me and that's like all his work with me. Utterly ask getting worse with alongside that the casper he works with that sits halloween application. For now i guess. He's just sort of a tech. It guy from the university. They didn't really explain much. But i mean my god where thankless role that so pathetic back to back movies where we of african americans playing the most like just rudimentary boring stupid roles. At least this guy was a step above what we podcast last week where that guy was basically a man friday but still like just goofy reaction shots and that's about it and even in the mall. He's he's not even in the cape he's above ground in total safety eventually also the structure of the film. And i i do like your structure however if they did it your way and it has saved flunking of the ending wouldn't have the race against the clock i mean about tiktok the toy our scanty stats Advocated or else military's gonna pull this town at the. Oh my god. Oh that's great. At least you can appreciate that as a as a par for the course in action movies. I mean it really did does a service to all sorts of movies whether it's the taking of pelham one two three if you put a time limit on something it just really adds to the tension but this movie is just so replete with cliches. It's absolutely hilarious. Winging delve into several but the scientists who is assisting the biologist who was responsible for ultimately these creatures wreaking havoc. This guy is a sweaty mess. And you gotta love that when someone isn't nefarious. Evil you know Duplicitous awful character. They always sweat and they look off into space right. And then you have the heroes behind him and they're talking away about how they're going to formulate some grandiose plan to ameliorate things and this guy is like just sweating whore insurance show worried that they're going to be onto him but there are ready onto him so it's not like he can disclose anything more like what all it is is the extent to which he's mucked about with mother nature by the after bob gun ten and of course to him and his audience are on him and when he finally turns he'll use the recipe. A telegraph is based on the actor because he always plays slang shit bags most prominent role. I was saying be as the gordon. Anti epidemic. Wow oh well. I mean nothing beats donald sutherland. He's the ultimate warden in in that storm. Lockup that movie we podcast thinking also another. Just wonderful cliche. That's just the time. Honored way to get the script like just to get the narrative shifting another direction. It's where one character says something. And then it suddenly spurs idea in another character and that's what and it could be totally unrelated. How we could even do it now on an impromptu way so we can get listeners. A better sense of what. I mean but You know a character could say oh. I've had a problem sleeping my whole life and then the other character would say sleeping. That's it or i really. I really love my morning coffee. That's it we could take coffee and know and then insert whatever action here to to solve some problem in this movie. It has that in-space in area Park in you know the take a lesson from drastic park because some scientists talking to behave. I mean he was so busy figuring out how we could make bats more effective as a weapon. Our stop the wonder whether that's true just the science must continue you know publish publisher perish damn the torpedoes dan the consequences. I mean with biological weaponry. He could have just waited around. Twenty nineteen then. We are all hammered. Witha whatever the the the whatever demon spawn of some wet market in china that we're all succumb gonna come to hopefully not but jesus what a character. And what would the animal tax on rabih without these dedicated single-minded pursuers of truth the scientists and just their indefatigable just i dunno willingness to what rise up the ranks and get tenure and universities. I don't know what their motivations nobel prizes can you get a nobel prize studying bats. I don't know sky surely someone who You know figured out the finer points of echo location got. It actually got something. But i don't know this movie is so so ridiculous so bonker so you have these guys trying to solve this problem by like I guess sequestering the baths at one spot and then you have on the other side as you alluded to the military with his. Just pathetic b roll footage of f eighteen fighters flying overhead stock footage. What i learned is that thought funded taken from the irony of you know well. Louis gossett isn't it and i can't remember who was with a pack of seeing but for a while there. There was a time where they were just running the nonstop on the young on europe. Pay per view. And you're better cable packages or worse ones as it were. There was a time not escape that rip off. I mean my god. you know. it's not a top drawer top gun but it's a bunch of those movies. Came in the wake of that one but elma god they could have at least gotten the film stock right for the f. Eighteens is that really that difficult technical problem considering how much like cgi and whatever practical effects went into this movie. It's really great whenever they show the fighter pilots. Definitely and you. Yeah i guess we're going to segue into what we've learned here but men these people in this town they they're just running all over the place and they're just trying that one. I think one character might have been the sheriff himself actually dives storefront or some sort of general store and of escape. These things which really doesn't make any sense because you're just creating a gaping hole behind into which these beasts can fly so that was just so looney. Oh another thing. I've learned that. I like looted to this sort of higher minded purpose. This thing has. I mean it's it's actually tries to punch above its weight when it comes to. It's a classy nuts. Because it's hard it's ridiculous animal movie but if you dig deeper it really wants to beat desperately something more something that resonates much more and the sheriff is one who has these outside and one thing i learned is that he's a fan of a light italian opera operettas. I guess you could call and for whatever reason. There's a ridiculous like montage where he puts on this done at set the opera and he gets ripped for liking this governor. Who really gives toss. If you're into opera at this thing it was such a like the is such a cheesy way to develop his character Another thing i learned was let my god. Every movie of this type has some kind of montage. In which someone jerry rig. Something and i don't know about you if you've ever jerry rigged anything but it takes so much but it takes in the venture capitalist vernacular idiot idiot but you have to think about things. You can't just like pull things but but these three were like creating these elaborate like electrified fences this crazy netting and mesh this everything they were. These people were so bloody resourceful. Like they're like they were marines are in the engineering corps. Could not believe it like this. Lowly biologist is able to just macgyver every single thing and in movies. That's such a cliche especially this type of movie where you take something you re purpose it for something else in the suit your ends in those like men. If only life were that easy by the scientist having no how to do sorta disorder. South when i mean the sheriff thought jumping my god. I'm trying to think of what else i learned here. But on the ring you're gonna get this film. He has his credits has spiked. I gotta say for what for what they're working with for the resources they had film sort of his way to the sanson was made for only five hundred hundred billion dollars yen notes. I would say it actually looks like a pretty. You know decently budgeted production. I mean you mentioned the night of the leap. Which was anything. But i mean you got these outsized stuffed creatures in. They're trying to know that they've got matchbox cars to differentiate them at is really chintzy chintzy production. But my god this thing actually look the part in actually looked quite good. Risk the quantum The corner million must win to obtaining stock. I'm pretty surprised. This was tristar. Production i mean it just goes to show you how how the movie business is really fallen off the map. Because this kind of drek would be relegated to I mean you know amazon. Prime exclusively in that kind of thing was really mainstream fair the time and while these are not like the biggest household names still you got you know different people in here. That are something i mean. Also noticing james. Cy who was like he's been in like kung-fu panda. And all this other crap like people are in this movie you'd but it just like it just goes to show like this type of thing today would be made at a budget of maybe fifty to one hundred k. And would be just some something relegated to two. Oh i learned another thing. Well i was thinking of it on any type of scientists who started muck about with nature and poke his nose where it doesn't belong. You'll have that. That's i guess Meet up where he comes face to face with his creation like yeah and he tells the his colleagues. Don't worry i can communicate them in the communicate them with these creatures on another level. He has some sort of like. I don't know some sort of bad horse. Whisper in and he gets just like he gets the allegation we get echo located to in to another dimension is he. He's not long for this earth right and everyone could see that coming and he spreads his arms like a jesus pose the christ post dial. You know that he's going to be done for and when he does meet as maker. It's really fantastic. You gotta love it and it's you could call it come up but it's trade in such a weird way. I don't know a lot of these movies. Have that as well and you see it coming but you don't mind that you see it. Coming simpler was cliche on caning and perform some about attacks. Were along as you didn't really see a lot by some about attacks of the author math decor more air quite and different satisfy definitely deliver in tax that delivering the frights. Not really had a kind of. I mean it's much better than bert democ right. Obviously but i think there was a. I think that's what was kinda going for. They were going for the bat Effects that were used in this film so which obviously much more adroitness than that. But i think that's what they had in mind. They just had maybe like one fiftieth of the budget to work within that just completely different technology director of organic really wants making the trump fans to be entering fan. So yeah it was. The that was was his attempt to make a hitchcock. how author. well. I'd be remiss if i didn't mention think it's a twenty eight production the rage which features of all things predatory Virus adult vulture. So they're obviously a you know the carry on so they become some sort of bird of prey and i like seeing a bird attack movies. I mean there's some red-tailed that are nesting near my building. Yesterday i saw them being chased away by like a a group of pigeon so there's really strengthened numbers in the animal kingdom. And you see that with zebras. when there's a lion around like in numbers you always see that with the maybe seals elephant seals and polar bears but like a red tail. Hawk is super fast. But only when it's dive bombing when it's when it's flying so i decided you know pigeons can get away from it so it was really weird to see. I just wish they would take care of them on my balconies poop all over the place but asian film oscar nominee That would really be a good fit for. Let's say the city of venice which is so like overrun with these fucking flying rats brutal. It's weird like we're both in toronto. Bit north of you. But i do see the odd bat at night and it is although i mean you're not gonna come face to face with them. It has to be pretty much late at night. And i think there's been more of an uptick in activity just because of Less commuting to and fro work work wi. So maybe you know a nature is seeing a little bit of a revitalization during covid. But i have seen a few here and it's kinda neat. They are kind of amazing creatures balcony. The yeah it's but they're very small ones. They're not the kind of that grace this film. That's for sure this various size discipline your everyday garden variety bad. Some help is slang for remote flying. Rodents right now on the bachelor our not risk different bigger than your everyday aso expats retain a bass regular bats and well. I did take umbrage with the structure of the film. I do enjoy the make out point victims. And i thought that was kind of well handled and i think the film was more successful when it isolated the victims rather than attacking them on mass. Like it in the hashtag vehicle. But this thing wasn't half bad. I mean i expected much worse especially given the The drubbing critically got imdb. This has really really low rating. And i think i think it might be under three if a mistaken will mean. Let's see where we're a we. We can contribute to that. Is seventeen percent a run. Tomatoes is pretty his poor. But i think it's not have that If you're going to say that really bad. But i'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with a solid two and three quarters. I think it's worth your time and it doesn't. I mean there are some really really boring and poorly rendered. Cg crocodile attack movies or komodo dragon attack. Movies aren't really particularly compelling. But i thought this was fun. I mean it ups the creature novelty at least crawl that they cannot clear scout direct by allied properly Mo- yeah i thought it was kind. I mean it was really really well crafted and i liked dynamic between. I think the athlete daughter and her supportive if not overbearing and pushy fathers at one of those sports. Dad's i'll tiger woods. Which hopefully he's recovering but a tiger woods and his His father would really push him into the sport. And i thought that was really well done. And i thought the cg was kept to a minimum and thought it was quite neat. How they handle the subterranean elements his frequently in these movies. The crock basically attacks people who are above ground in this one it was a lot of it was done the basements. Although i'm not sure to the extent florida has basements but anyway i thought it was. It was good enough right. it was good. I out this one. I am going to affect my west resolve. All of that. Basically anything would've would've entertain me so i. It's definitely not gonna turn your expectations upside down in. That's nuts that's it. I'm outta here after that one here but also yes. That was a weird poster really. I think they were trying to go for more. Definitely more a vampire aesthetic than the actual animal attack vibe. Probably to draw different kind of audience but that really did not. I mean usually have something really really obvious like the iconic nineteen seventy six grizzly poster. Now you know what it is but bats. It was almost subtle. And i don't know whether that really helps the marketing phil on this year's on town it's a one horse town about one cinema. What is plain nosferatu lord. The these marquee cliches of the films that inspired the the director. And it's weird the director. I never heard of and he doesn't even have an imdb. Page you gotta. That's gotta count for something or nothing. Well we hope to continue to goodbye our listeners by uploading new content and we're definitely going to tackle more animal attack movies because I was just telling a colleague cheese like there's such litany of movies that we covered in space. And i'd forgotten about uninvited which is terrific. Killer kat movie a listener of ours recommended and it's just such a wealth of fund. This genre i mean it definitely is my i dunno. It's definitely up there. My top two favorite horrors. I if you could throw in italian gut munchers definitely put it in there. I i do have a soft spot as well full core. It's tough. I would say the the italian supernatural plus n will attack favorites plus like a decent to eighty slattery. Gotta that in there to alan yet Extend you'll As much fun compared with the animals Leslie nielsen yelling hotshot. Everybody that's gotta be the summit of achievement. In this ron at least for the non serious films i mean obviously you go to jaws and back country for the exemplars of the genre but turn your attention to other members of the animal kingdom. I want to get more and more. And more i mean jeez. The nest was so much fun. Because these god sir march order. Oh yes animals have mutated in giant tickets your first category snowless lighthouse. No that's a good segue to my lunch here. So i guess we'll bid you adieu and we shall talk to you next week.

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A Bowl of Soul A Mixed Stew of Soul Music Broadcast - 12-04-2020

A Bowl of Soul A Mixed Stew of Soul Music

1:01:06 hr | 11 months ago

A Bowl of Soul A Mixed Stew of Soul Music Broadcast - 12-04-2020

"This holiday season you know wanna have my wishlist adventure now. That's why i got a new honda during the happy honda day sales in they have a whole lineup of rugged all wheel drive. Suv's crv pilot passport. But at the end of the day. I drove off at a new. Hr fee with a bunch of safety features and best of all. I got it on clearance. So don't just sit around knitting an ugly holiday sweater. see your local honda dealer for happy. Honda days clearance pricing today. Today's broadcasts of a bowl of sola mixed of so music is brought to you by pago. Pago is the easiest way for you to monetize your podcast providing podcasters with a flat rate for space. So you always know how much you get when you clued. An ad from pod go apply today to become a member and immediately connected with advertisers. That fit your audience. That's pod go dot co at p. o. d. go dot co and. Be sure to add our podcast in the. How did you hear about pago section of the application you reach the right place. A destination called soul. It's the biro annex. You-know-what snacks. It's a bowl of so mix to of so musee. This is your man jay most in your listening to soul music at its best a bowl of soul a mixed stool of soul music. Shoot a treatment and this road law. Knock him their past three from merrick. Uh-huh drink operate off. Haven't this is a bowl of so a mix of soul music and we are now at first week of december which is the last month of the year. And you know this has been a crazy twenty twenty. You know what i'm saying. This is going to go down in the history books as the most craziest year of the twenty first century. And this is not love coming at you once again giving you some holiday soul and we got some new orrin be coming up here on bullet soul and i had to give you that classic because i liked to open the holidays with merry christmas baby which is an rb christmas standard that is credited to lou baxter and johnny moore and originally recorded in nineteen forty seven by johnny. Moore's three blazers featuring singer and pianist charles brown. This is during the days before we started calling rhythm and blues boogie. Woogie baby and you know. This song has been covered by so many artists as being covered by chuck. Berry i can tina. Turner got a nice version. Otis redding bb king elvis presley bruce springsteen christine aguilera hanson and melissa ethridge is a classic very old song and the song goes way back to. I would say almost seventy three years of this song. Nineteen was released in november nineteen forty seven the original version. But this song which you heard from the legendary lake great. Mr odin spreading came out of nine teen sixty seven and this is a bowl of solar and coming up next going to give you some motown christmas soul from the jackson. Five talk about. Give love on christmas day and this is a bowl of so a mixed assume using in a good um had that i can say a no or christmas day by the jackson five. You know that's a classic you know from motown. And you just wanna give a shout out to my peoples because you know the jackson. Five were from gary indiana. Wanna give a shout out to miss. Karen williams on the sounds of soul from gary indiana and mr barrie hudson from dallas texas. But he was originally bought in gary indiana. Giving a shout out to my people in gary indiana you a hero bowl of so also on sounds of soul in gary indiana and also the person that owns steel town records and gary indiana. Mr gordon keith. He passed away last week and he was the one responsible for discovering every courting the jackson five before they even made their way to motown records one of their local hits for gary chicago area was big boy and this is a bowl of soul mixed stew of so music going to give you something classic from the legendary late gray blues woman herself misdemeanors lasalle talk about booze and soul. Christmas said this is a bowl of soul. The folks ya'll checking out a bowl of so we wanted a hot as dj's in a land professor michio this dream as it was a hittite down. The car to see with this new tov nichols almost. I don't have enough tall christmas. Somebody's little girl law. I got the mic. Some time. i've been bad day. You see nose went out. Goon away mega told that blisters on stolnis man. I've been almost all the my rain when back. Some don't make money be cold. Meggett you Right here on a bowl of soul. Celebrating miss denise lasalle talking about santa claus got the blues from one thousand nine hundred eighty five. We celebrate miss aura. Denise allen also known as denise lasalle was born july sixteenth nineteen thirty four leflore county mississippi and she passed away on january eighth twenty. Eighteen at the age of eighty. Three god bless in jackson tennessee and her john. Music is blue's arm be and so and she was active from one thousand nine hundred sixty seven up until the time of death. I remember seeing denise lasalle at the apollo theater in nineteen seventy two seventy one seventy two. She had this hit record on. Westbound records called trap by thing called love and she's also known for this other song that was very popular from z z hill called down home blues and this is a bowl of soul and coming up next. We got something sweep from the late. The legendary mr gerald levert talking about christmas without my girl and this is a bowl of seoul. This is eric. B turner and you're listening to professor t love on a bone of seoul amid stew of soul music Trying to be somewhere same. Sounds no own ladder. It's the she she won. No joe see him though man The legendary late great. Mr gerald levert talking about christmas without my girl from one thousand nine hundred ninety eight of the twelve soulful nights of christmas presented by mr jemaine do pre and you know gerald edward ll avert was born july thirteenth nineteen sixty six and he passed away on november two thousand and six at the age of forty. You know he comes. From cleveland ohio and he already had been in music for twenty three years. 'cause he was singing since nineteen eighty-three up until the time that he passed. But we celebrate the legendary. mr gerald. Levert right here on a bowl of so. He comes from a deep legacy of course of his. Mr eddie the vert from the. Oj's coming up nex. We got some new holiday music from big rob featuring talking about in a holiday mood and this is a bowl of soul. Hi my name. Is andy stokes. And you're listening to a bowl of soul a mix of so beefcake and the show and repair the eib. Just don't care. Evans tie and about the trump on its odd. Everyone's allergy to have joya drink man all them weep. Take time play all the families still own long you bill. All that there's palm and it's all span. Oh a boy. My little sister special. We should everybody out there. Happy thanksgiving merry christmas. Happy new year. Happy holidays the song love avenue blue speaking. She say brace bring this. Do i like that. That's got like some chicago stepping grooves in that. That is big. Rob's christmas party album of which you just heard the single in a holiday mood with miss special. Make sure you get this move groaning sexy album from big rob. You can purchase this single on amazon dot com. I'm telling you this brother here. I like that. Because that's got a nicest upbeat and you know this. This is going to be a hit. I feel and this brother he. He is bringing it for this christmas. Make sure you support big. Rob's christmas party by getting it on amazon dot com and you need to know why you need to listen to a bowl of soul music from the fifty times fifty a little bit of the sixty sixty sixty throw with similar. Seventy seventy seventy mix well with the bring to boil the nine and just judge the future the future that's our recipe for a bowl of soul soul signing the costal center time dramatic. I'll do chris swift. Were sharp and fall instead. It's spring sun. Special old baby to st louis Score you have to act absolutely go to from giving you something. Classic new from mr larry dodson christmas with you and you know larry. Dodson is the lead singer of the famous. Balk as you said he has been a member of the bar ks almost fifty years and this man has he was performing during watt stacks. That was in california with all stacks artisan including the late great who just recently passed away rance allen staple singers were there isaac hayes uday mid balk as was center. You know as young men the bark as were the backing band for legendary otis redding and some of the members from the original bar case were killed in a plane crash with otis redding in december of one thousand nine hundred sixty seven but we celebrate. Mr larry dotson here singing. Something's fresh new talking about christmas with you. Make sure you get this single christmas with you. From mr larry dotson. You probably get this single on amazon. I tunes you name it. Just make sure you get this nice sentimental christmas song from larry dodson coming up next. We got some new christmas music from ito talking about someday at christmas. And you may have heard that song by a young stevie wonder right here on a bowl of soul someday at christmas from ito and this is a bowl of seoul. This is john york. And you're listening to a bowl of soul with kerry ferguson. A smith man let as Increase a happy morning. Able head when signing Some star wars Like that from mis iea ito. She is black japanese. She says she's black unease. Make sure you support miss ito. Who's a multi genre singer songwriter. Make sure you support her. You can get this single on apple music. Check out spotify. Checkout you to make sure you support miss ito talking about someday at christmas classic coming up next. We got some new music from bangkok based singer songwriter. per chara. giving you some rb grooves here on a bowl of seoul. The segel is called are see and this is a bowl of so so again. I walked into the room with no expectations. Just as donald. Everybody in here. I am at a bowl of soul with professor teela close Set off watt a friend with that a foreign in muslim mind fab when you will sees to leave. The don't ask don't know out of a tags. Got a wrong. So that i like that new music from chara. Who is who was born in bangkok thailand. And you know charles has spent the past six years developing his craft. He moved to new york after graduating with a performing arts degree from berkeley college of music and met paper tape brooklyn based producer through a mutual friend. And let me tell you all better support this single. This thing is hot. I liked that experimental trap edge on it. Make sure you support pa- charge new single talking about why are c. A you could get that on amazon dot com. Make sure you check him out on apple music as well as spotify talking about. Why aussie put shara get it. Your new music right here on a bowl of solar and we got some more new music. I love the new music segment of a bowl of soul. Because you know. R&b still expanse to stratosphere baby and all over the world. Come up nex from the west coast gerard lawson featuring mood child talking about. I'll be your radio and this is a bowl of soul a a. r. would be taken. I don't have to be you ask sound days. I don't any you can see nea jazz. Some shoulders on you would just be too off off now your purse. I like that. Brady show how from jaren lawson featuring mood child beautiful duet talking about. I'll be your radio. I've played gerard lawson. I think he's just on fire. I played single on a couple of broadcasts of a bowl of soul. Talk about bees change. But make sure you support draw lawson get his album changes new jazz for twenty twenty. You can definitely support him by going apple music and make sure you go to amazon dot com and support this office mr gerard lawson featuring moon child beautiful duet right here on a bowl of soul and i am going to leave you with some new music from detroit's own lorraine and the seasons talking about if i can't have you and this is a bowl of soul this no don't this bill look and see happen latte you. Yes you see us still having me. Asa don't make you sir. Can't new music. Retro soul from detroit michigan laura rain and diseases talking about. If i can't have you make sure you support them by going to apple music. Look them up on spotify. That song is on fire. I liked the groove on that. Make sure you support lorraine and the seizes and you can also go to their website. Laura rain dot net and this is the end of a bowl of soul. I hoped that you liked this segment of bullets. Like i said this is the last month of the year and you know my goal on a of soul is not only to bring you classic soul but also to bring you the new. R&b make sure you support big rob featuring special in a holiday mood. Make sure you support the legendary. Larry dodson who was the lead singer of the bar. Ks talking about christmas with you. Also ito talking about singing. That classic that was sunk by stevie wonder someday at christmas bay. Cock thailand's put chara talking about. Why are see. Make sure you get that hot. That hot single. And i'll be your radio featuring moon chow sung by mr gerard lawson also some new music for twenty twenty two twenty twenty one and of course what you just heard. If i can't have you buy lower rain and the caesar's you know i love bringing you classic soul and new r&b and i definitely want to share with you an email from one of my listeners. Who has been listening to a bowl of soul on my o soul a mixture of so music radio network on live three sixty five and i just want to share you. Some of the com. Where's that he mentioned. So many also got some history here to his name. Is john louis and he said i am. I am listening to you almost every afternoon from belgium on radio garden which is an international radio map on which you can choice the radio station everywhere around the world that you like to listen to. He said i used to be a dj in late seventies and eighties known as specialists of soul and funk music and one of the largest discotheques in belgium calls vaudeville beside regular customers. We also had a lot of american basketball players coming is especially for r&b and you know lonzo ball. The ball plays called him the white black dj but he also said we also had the chance to have marvin gaye as a regular customer when he was living in belgium in ostend. Thanks to you for your great music. I love it even if i'm sixty seven today. Happy birthday jacques. Louis but i still feel. I feel still young with your program. Have a very fine day. John louis john. Dj at the ville. Let me tell you something. This music is all over. The world is all over the world. I wanna thank sean louis for his words about a bowl of soul and you know what he spoke about was true. You know Before marvin gaye was killed in nineteen eighty-four tragically. He left the united states in the late seventies early eighties and he lived in belgium. And that is where he produced his last album. Actually is last album midnight love and he wrote and he wrote and produced his song sexual healing and there is. I looked up the information. About where more stayed in belgium and they have a statue of marvin gaye and they also have a walking tour museum. So if you're in belgium and you happen to be. I believe it's an ostend look up the marvin gaye walking tour because and gays spent a lot of his latter years in belgium. And this is the end of a bola so make sure you tune into the abolish soul. A mixture of so music radio network on lobby. Sixty five baby. I want to thank all of you out there. That's listening to that radio network Especially those that are in germany and france and vietnam and as well the russian federation in poland and in the bolivarian republic of venezuela and of course the united states. And if i've left anyone out you know please. I don't mean to but i just want to thank all of you for your love showing your love and support for bola soul and if you enjoy having nonstop music limited commercial interruption on that radio never make sure you show you love. You can show your love to seoul on cash app. Just go to dollar side a bowl of soul and if you have then mo use a bowl of so we would love you support to continue to keep this labor of love. Galway hit me up. At a bowl of soul edgy. Mail dot com. And make sure you follow me on my facebook page a bowl of soul mixed so music. Thank all of you that are following a sold. The number of likes is going up. And i wanna just thank you so much for doing that and make sure you follow me on instagram. At t love make sure you catch up with yours. Truly melvin jordan and his quiet storm heavy storm quiet storm. That comes on my radio network at at seven. Pm seven pm eastern standard time to nine pm. We had the legendary miss. Vivian green. and we're going to do a rebroadcast of that. On on friday late at night at eleven o five. Make sure you catch that. Make sure you catch up with gospel vibrations on sunday at three pm. Playing you the fastest sixty minutes of praise and inspiration from yours truly. Mr melvin. john. I want to thank him. Been a big help. I want to thank also mr nigel. Thomas for having me on the surrey hill soul train. You could catch me on wednesdays and on saturday as well shout out to nigel. As well who plays bowl soul on his network. And also you can catch the sound of soul with karen williams and gary indiana also on live three sixty five as well make sure you catch up with love sex and relationships with the professor at yours. Truly professor t love. 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That 80s Show meets Joan Armatrading

That 80s Show SA - The Podcast

46:00 min | 4 months ago

That 80s Show meets Joan Armatrading

"Walk into their eighty show. Animal physical spiritual popping balloons. Who's the animal. Yeah whose spiritual physical. Well we know that barrett is metaphysical barrett's is metaphysical place all of them. And he's very physical because he's spinning instructor is always tiktok dancing last week. A popular videos on tiktok an instagram becoming a bit of a star the barrett on it such funding which your so random and i both jumped out That's what happens with eighties music. You just can't stopped yourself that is buried on the eclipse central tiktok. What's what's the the handle of that if anyone's it at i think it's just cliffs and of central talks the one with the. Yeah it pretty much. Everything on there is just people on. What is it about the the fascination. It's actually such an eighties thing too like people. Just dancing randomly. Just breakout fat. Dancing celebrate dancing dancing dancing financing. But we're not about that today. If you've been watching on any of our social media any of the clubs central social media we are breaking format of the show today for the chart savant along with his childish ways of manipulating charts and numbers to his will. He has a black book. That reminds me much of i imagine. If i'd watched harry potter book in there that would be magical. Greg me. I imagine it to be like the half splat book doesn't merit barrett as a black book too envious. He's thumbs his way through that book. Sometimes and he landed on jay foot joan arbitrating and over the next hour rasa. We'll be hearing from her specifically because she's got a new album out. You cannot on the eighteenth of june. You guys had to listen to it. I've listened to a couple of songs. And i really liked it now. Understanding that she does oldish. Richie pays sings all the words for the different pots. At obviously backing everything again me a new appreciation Understand that one person great stats. So that was pretty him about that into becoming. Yeah exactly i think. We'll all quite impressed by that. Because we started off talking to her about lockdown in what she's been doing and how to fix it and she's well. It didn't really because i work by myself all the time and started to tell us about his songwriting process and and and the the process of making music. And how she pretty much does everything and felt a kindred spirits. Because you know for the show. I'll do everything myself. Carry the two of you really really know i am just the button push in the and so yes of course of the next hour. We're going to be uring from john trading during some of the older songs because this is the eighties off the roll If we'll give you details at the end of the interview about her new album and awesome livestream concert Coming up that we details to. But like i said earlier we start speaking to joan to find out you know. Lack all of us. It's the great leveler. How did lockdown treater. Yeah i'm doing fine. And i've been dead find. Dan of had my two jabs In terms of my work the way i work it has knocked down hasn't affected me Because i just got to do everything myself anyway. I'm usually the only person in the room so everything that you hear on. The album is just me. I play everything right thing. Arrange everything engineer everything. That's that's just me Same on the last album down before that album before about so. It's no different for me this album than pull those other albums But in terms of kind of general life in terms of work now difference it turns of general life like everybody else You know you can just go down the road and get a bag of sugar or something not to apply this is you can just go to the park for a walk Whatever you do at the moment there's some kind of a government attachment to it which is fine the do go to do to keep everybody safe. it does make life very different but a i don't think he's all Negative that there. I think there's gonna be some positives that will come out today. There's always politics out of everything. That's me was positive. So let's go back to the beginning. You started writing music as a teenager so tell us about how that will sort of what attracted you to writing songs. I think it was just born to to write my mother border piano. Put it in the front room. A great piece of furniture and literally as soon as the for the piano arrived dadi writing zones. Nobody said joan. This is what you should do. Nobody said jaundice eye writer song. You play an instrument. I just i just did it. It was very natural. The piano is actually a beautiful instrument to start writing on all just to stop play. Because i always say you could dust the piano and his good in. It's just hit one not and then it's very easy to see the the note b by it's can hit the next note by or three notes along from the. I know that you get a new start to make up these june just as the beauty of the piano. It's not so it's hard to determine what i find much more complicated. It's much more challenging instrument co. quite into this day can't quite work. I was supposed to be happening. It'll be guitar in the same way as a piano. John do blaney instruments. It's on piano is just now play as i say. Whatever you here on a on the record. It's me here amount but if you hear a banjo view here a mandalay if you hit the base. That's me so this this album that you'll hear in everything you hear is me same same as the last of everything you hear on as me. I can play drums. I'm not good enough to plan my records. So i programmed the drums so i told the jones that you here and then i play all the instruments in the beginning of your career you in and musical. Hey and how. How is that experience for you. Being in that music was it was great. I really enjoyed. I do have to tell people that. I never had any point. Close off. its that's not me. There's not enough money or precious gems in the world. That would get me to do that. But as show thought it was great. I did not in my show in my cast was richard o'brien and nicholas po baba that that was part of the team and i think at the time Richard was writing rocky horror. Raleigh was in in certain. It was great to gripe fun production. It was really nice having said that. Though i was pretty quiet so i would spend my time going into the theta All the time writing songs. That's kind of how people knew me. That's what i did. I would go into be on my own and write songs So it was yes it was. It was really good. I enjoyed it. How has your writing evolved from the beginning. That teenagers competes you. Late has devoted. That's really hard to say. I'm having that. I'm getting better and better all the time trying to get better and better over time but in terms of the theme of what i ride. That's remained pretty constant i write about people from observation. The most of the songs from variation writes about love emotion how people interact with each other. They care for each other or not And just trying you know. The the last album is called not too far away. And i play that too small group of people just a few people and they all cried and they were listening to the album. Martha yep that's it. S exactly what i want. That's the one. I'm because they were so kind of involved with the songs in the we'll touch them that's it and that's really what rising it for me is all about. It's about touching people and helping them. People have said to me. I've used your songs to communicate to my partner. What i did an interview in europe wants and the guy said joan. Men are finished this interview with you. I'm going to propose to my girlfriend. Deal songs alco very cool. Very cool junior creative rock pop jazz folk lose solan reggae win creating a music. How'd you decide. He flan what genre to play was an economic ganic process. That you go through. Yeah up until two thousand and three. It wasn't organic process. I would whatever popped into my head. Does was writing. I would write so blues followed. The pop follow the country. Whatever i would just write that and then two thousand and three author might just try kind of honing in on. How album should sign old if it had a theme or what it should be about so Two thousand and three hundred decided that having played everything on my demos would start to play everything on my record so from two thousand three hundred. That's been how the records of people don't realize that they think it's a bond and of even read the review that said you know the bandies great gay. That's me. i'm the band really is amazing. So so then I'll do a trilogy of blues rock jazz so did into the blues all blues and then i had to keep trying to remind myself when i did that. This is a blue. Don't don't go and do a brace on. this is a blues. Did that did the rock this trauma and then did the the jazz star night and then i thought this album quite nice. Though the last quite nice of you is an acoustic signed in things. So i played the cousteau secrets and this will be nice if it was a many keyboard signed in. So there's also keyboards on it And the side. I just tried to myself little challenges along the way just to see what. What am i capable of. Because i'm on kind of the constant always there. So i've got to make sure i keep myself interested I tried to do that understanding that. You're playing all instruments and know doing all those bits and bobs in between which the realize how. What is your greater process. How how did you decide. Which instruments play i have has it. All fujitsu a cohesive song. Okay well the song after will have to write the song surrey gun to be on the guitar or they're not gonna play on either guitar or the piano and and make sure the song can be played as a song without anything else. Because it's the song still on the on the for the last two albums i would sometimes write the words. I sometimes music for sometimes together sometimes sometimes piano or whatever and then on the last album the not too far away which turned eighteen. I decided that i would ride all the i no music at all. I didn't think about music. And i really enjoyed doing that. So that's what i did on. This album is well. I wrote all the all the words. I know news on the last album. The order of the songs you here is exactly the ordered. I wrote them in. So so someone who was the first one to was the second one. And the and i didn't change the order of the album. It's all this one. The the orders changed a bit but still did just the words first. And that's quite an interesting thing for me to do to to stick to that. I find that find out really interesting from the last one and what what i like is if you can read the woods away from the music and still get some sense from it. I like that for my son's anyway So i thought well let me do that. And not even think about music caught interested in exercise like it's. I don't know what will happen on the next album. What i'll do but we'll see that scan while john you saying you like when people crotch your songs i i listen to the weakness in the over and over all the time and cry so Do you have any particular favorites on. The new element is there. A particular song has special special to you. I like all the songs move. Because i wrote all the songs. But there's the solid ends. The album is cool to anyone. Who will listen. And i wrote it because i was reading about this chap and in the shampoos depressive and he was saying that he wasn't looking for people to necessarily give him help or suit given advice. He wasn't looking for somebody to do something for him. What he wanted to do was just listen to him. Tell how he felt just as simple as that. And i just really felt for him. That's why i wrote the song. It really touched me and watch the program the me you can't see you didn't see the winfrey thing lady gaga and lady gaga was saying exactly the same thing because we know that she's been through her mental problems and she was saying that the biggest thing is to have somebody listen to what you're saying because she said people can have lots of actions. They can do things but they haven't listened. And that's that's the important thing. So i i really as i say. I really felt for that guy john. How does it feel that. You're still creating music off to some years in the industry. How does it my grades. I'm a easter in it. It's not a shaw. I'm very lucky. I never struggled to write. A song is not a big deal for me. I was born with this. This is how this is why i'm here. I'm here to do this. I was given this gifts. Although always said i can't take credit for what i do because i did nothing for it. Be here Haven't had big stool in on it. So anything he was just a very natural thing. And when i write to salon can hear all these things that i need to have any in here the spots in the range buccaneer and i heard an interview with wynton marsalis and he said exactly the same thing he said when he writes. You can hear all this all the stuff that needs to go with what he writes so made me feel really good. You've performed in south africa couple of times status about the experience of performance to a couple of times and i absolutely love coming to. I love the people of the warmth. Love just the warmth of just the people not just necessarily audiences but just the people and then i love the audiences as well. What is this show. I love the spirit of the south african people as well because you know. South africa's been through a lot of stuff on in the main. I think he's coming out the right way. Of course there so i can't speak properly for for everything but you get the feeling that things are definitely not the way they used to be That's a good thing. I suppose every time you came you notice her but of a change but of change has been your reflection worldwide artists with longevity of yours. You've been fortunate enough to be round. The world go to different countries. Have you noticed in west being the most stock thing that you've noticed of different countries as you've toured as visited them throughout your career and the changes in the world in general. What i do notice is that as much as we have different cultures different people. different climates. Incontinence picking really to the same. They just want the same stuff. In general people just want everybody to be kind to them and they want somebody to like them or love them befriended him. Don't beat them up. you know. Look after their kids in general. That's what pe- that's what i've noticed. I don't think i don't dutch american. Think goodness american so good and the chinese. The japanese of never loved their kids. That japanese americans loved them as much as the gentleman's loved them. And i've always said that i think the majority of people in the world of good people who want good for everybody else but the people who are not good people who bad people very noisy vocal and they give the impression that they are the majority because they're so loud but they're not And if they weren't then will be much much worse place than people think it is. That's that's what i noticed. I also notice stuff that maybe that's not what you mean. But for instance. When i started to go to canada i areas that i would go to like Let me think of ottawa somewhere where it was literally a pound it will literally a dirt style that you have a road but it was a muddy road and then i watch that become a incredible city beautiful city same in australia. I watched the bisbee brisbane. Become this place that. When i went there i wasn't this place and that's been quite interesting. And if what makes you think of the wild west when people watching is built in and watching gun laws above on american that. I haven't really changed on louis but it a watching people not wear gun so boldly made me think of that But no i think the. I think the thing that i knows the most is people generally want the same thing goodstuff. Welcome to that. Show special edition talking to joan arbitrating. Second of our interview series Previously spoke to graham russell of supply. You can find details of that on our facebook. Page that eddie. Show is a dory's favorites gentlema- trading song. You just heard they the weakness in me man. Sorry i just have to compose myself in. Pick myself up off the floor after that one. It's very add. Is that song. Just hits me right in the heart man ready. Does i was so happy that i got to that but yes anyway. That's coming To that song actually has win. She puts released it in nineteen eighty one. It didn't even do it. didn't even taught. It did nothing for her. But it's become lack those cult movie classics. That i always talk about. It's become one of the most popular and most well known songs and a bunch of people are coveted. It's also been on a couple of movie soundtracks. It was on ten things. I hate about you. Okay and on season one soundtrack of the tv series the alward which I don't know you've watched our idioms and then it's been covered back. I haven't even heard of half these people who've coveted. Call it veto. I don't know who that is. The loneliest monster. Maybe that was the only song not learning monster apparently punk rock band sadhana and then some folk singer named francis black and kieran goss to cover of it. The one i know in love is a cover band melissa ethridge. She's locked pop country. She does a lovely version of it. She did that in. Nineteen ninety-five then actress. Cassie payva covered the song for one of her albums. I've never heard of her. Bob ross who coveted for tribute album called tom thumb's blues attributed. Judy collins you don't. I'm saying another folk singer. John rot also covered it. And then one of the more well known versions which i didn't actually been other people match is the british thing kisha wafted an r&b version of its into thousand five. That that's the first when it comes up if google Horrified that that's one that comes up but the original joan is the best and in the melissa. Ethridge is also a really good version these others. I dunno god's on a better. I was really happy that she spoke quite a bit about that song. Because it's a good man it's good she said it's the she wants to play music. That people cry. You want the first response she wants. She looks to make people john. We're obsessed with eighteen on our show. What's all all the time for us. So i wanna know in the watch. Would you listening to like what were your favourite autism to bands at especially when you started a moving up the charts as well. And i'm sure you had touring with other bands and stuff like that. Have you got any story stress. No because i very quiet very kind of my own. So i haven't got not a big mixer. Got lots of no's jamming with this person and got those stories where you need another person who is in the eighties. Who did that. But i was at myself to myself then and now. So don't really i if somebody asked me this just now you told me. Supertramp in the seventy s. Seventy five seventy five in. Were you hanging out with them. Because the answer is no we do. The gig wouldn't be going into their room to to chat with them. Spoke to my band so people you know people know me. They know the ban soon gets used to that. I will be on my own and won't be going socializing in that so fortunately i can't give you those stories and sites are on. I was supporting somebody or somebody supposed. I would all. I'll tell you what i would always do. Always always always watch whoever supported me every night even if they supported me every night for the home towards the toe lassie and they were on the toll for the i would watch every night because i think about point is important to support you know people who supposedly so that. That's something i always. I think people usually think jones crazy you've seen as sixteen sixteen times while you're watching the seventy but it was important to me but yeah i'm not very kwame so boring. I'm sorry not at all. What about what about what kind of music. You're listening to even the music you listen to now. Any south african music they challenge. The dance is called this kind of a little bit la body. Pumpkin dance in whether the garage round the back and you know distorted staff And i sold that stuff in south africa for the first time and then I've seen it of the places. Now what was i listening to a big listener of. I know a lot of music on those things. I'm aware of a little things. I've always been aware. But i've never been a big buyer of music and that's just because i'm writing all the time you know this album and you've got to have space to write that many songs so A more busy right in than listening and the guys would be on the bus. They'd be on the bus and they all have the headphones in listening to have no idea what i do that. I can't be listening to music every to mediate. I spend all my time cygan to the to the audience every night for two hours to an off is whatever it is. I don't really wanna be listening to a lot of stuff it's gonna too much. you know. Those people i mean love kanye west absolutely loved kanye west Of whiskey leave loved. Amy winehouse. There's all kinds of artists that are really really justin bieber. Think he doesn't he does he. Doesn't really good songs. I agree with a good looking good pop on so there's just this those are things like i think ariana grande dame he's got a great voice Don't always think the songs that she chooses. She has massive success with all songs who chooses so. What do i know. But i always think she's singing the right song but are do think she's got a great voice. Ninety gulgun credibly talented out. I think so. There's no of people that are like butts I'm not constantly listening to and the city buying their records or whatever. But i certainly admire what what they're doing for you the giant. They've elision of how music is produced and consumed by listeners. Has changed drastically changed since you started out. What are your thoughts about the whole digital streaming compared to the old ways of how music was consumed. What's your thoughts on that. Well first of all. I think it's great. I think it's really good that there are so many different outlets for people to get music. And i and i also think it's quite good to be able to go onto other no saga so apple music or wherever you go in and say i want to hear some rolling stones and you hear the whole catalogue if you want. That's great scraped to have that access People don't hardly download music these days they buy. Cd's and finally put in a in an astonished way. Not in the way that used to be which is fine as well again But but it's it's more subscription base now so you can get whatever you want if you pay whatever month and and it's there i think all of that is fine where it goes wrong. Is that the providers the people who have the musical net platforms. Don't pay the artists. What they should because you know if you think about house an remember reading the thing lady gaga accommodating over how many millions of streams she had for this song millions of streams and she go four hundred pounds. That's ridiculous and then somebody said that. Gary numan said he had again have many streams and he got thirty eight pounds. Well that's no good is it. You can't live on that. And what they have to remember. Is that as an artist. You're laying out money to do to do stuff you know you on the painful studio or if it's your own recording studio you're gotta give your friends something to come and play play with it so you pay the Will give them food or so. There's there's you're laying out money but if nobody's giving you some money back for your work how'd you. How'd you sustained now and you've got to got to keep to a certain sounded. People want a certain standard on a good quality. Now if you'll allow analogies to dream because that's how you create you create by looking at the window hard times what mr greg grind said. You must have the window because it's a waste of time but you must look out the window. You have to dream. You have to look beyond those trees and look up into the sky and an imagine. What's there and the platforms the the youtube apple music and all those guys and not allowing people to have that dream you know us. Oh it definitely needs some government intervention to change some laws to allow people to get some proper Money for what they're doing. It'll kill music if you're not careful to kill selling kill music as a career. We don't want it to be hobby thing and everybody wants music. Music is music almost like breathing. You know we need is and you need to have good stuff. You need quality stuff when people need to be paid for the quality stuff that they even have. I was gonna ask you actually about what would be the solution to because it seems that these platforms of just put themselves and they so powerful they making a fortune of other people's work and they you know i think one of the platforms recently upset by like a few cents recently anyone's was we happy about it so i mean it has to go to that level of government intervention to go. You know you can't. There's no other way house to be government thing that says you guys you'll make money and you still make an you'll still make a people properly but it has to be a gun thing. Don't rely on them because they don't do it. Then i'm going to say oh yes made icons. Let's give you a pound say we're keeping the five and you have to think of young artists young artists to a trying to rely on pubs and clubs and Small gigs to make. Well that's kloesel them now so if you're planning stuff and you're not paying them as well. They can't go to delight gifts that soap so the aim is to get governments to make a change squad to what you said in the south african music scene. That's what a lot of autism is that they contrary really rely on record sales if they go off and they just do gigs and gigs gibson. Gigs and go with boxes of cds and sell the cds at gigs. And that's how you sometimes see people's rickwood cells but this stuff's not in the stores but because they actually sitting there and they're the concert is like a hour off ed to sell the cd you know and it's it's hard work. It is hard work but most musicians are so in love with music. Happy for that but then happy to not be paid. Not happy to not be voted at as. I say you don't want to turn out to be just a little cottage industry of substantive. Excuse me saying that sub-standard music because you can't afford to have quality you know now. One hundred the thought that music could be a cottage industry is quite as but it's quite strong to think this could be your journey. Listen i want to thank you so much. We're going to sort of wrap up. And we re so grateful for your time. And what i want to say if i don't get to say it. Is that when we speak to people. And we try to uncover why the longevity what is it that keeps certain artists so relevant in you know what it always comes down to for me as humility and whenever we find somebody who has been as successful now. They've always been is that. The person is humble and and that's what strikes me about you as while. I'm sure there is a team the you're just a normal person who i'm sure is behaving the same way. Today's always abbott. And and that's really great and we thank you for treating us with with the respect that you have. That's my pleasure of. I try and i don't even try and stay as i've always been. I've only known me to be like this. I don't know how else to turn. I want to ask you this. I got really excited. Because i think we share a passion for comic books are okay but more than anything rosser. Iran goes comic immediately. Think of the superhero stuff. When i read about how doing the research to names popped up that i haven't sort of and probably twenty eight years is dandy and beano. I grew up as so excited to read those names. And all these stories and the character evidence came running back to me. And i was looking around my house to see. I still had any old copies. Which done evan fortunate. And it's not a question but it's just almost like a fan moment of going. What fantastic comics. I know you were in was in the beano paged tumbling. They were listening to me on the radio. And i invited sally to have a lunch or something with me and the boys were kind of teasing a year. Course he'll journal is going to take and then you end up with the two of us sitting having this meal and the boys looking through the window like jealous comic. That'd be the highlight i'd be. That's me that's me. All of them that is highlights. It's just magical and listen to to to barrington dorey dandy and beena. They had such a funny device of way. That would if somebody produ they would rot prod or push twist. I loved it. I remember stages a kid up. Push my sister to be push absolutely of comics. I still read comics. Still read those again those every year every year still Done by the the little comics every week anymore but every single year anything really special or exclusive in your collection. No no not really not really. If we went back years. I used to have a lot of out of very viable old comex. My mom threw them away destroyed. Me it's just. I think it's the last question before the end of just so. You know that you and i share a birthday ninth of december so said jeez i what is next with john. Let's knicks what's another album's coming out schutte and what else is happening. Well the album's coming out. I'd be doing the livestream on the thirty first of july. Very excited about that people who go to my website to get tickets for that. But i'm all already thinking about what the next album should be. I'll tell you what it is. Because i'm still working at myself but i'm that tends to be how i work of rights. The album and the album comes out on the one. So that's where. I am now thinking about what what do i want to do. How do i want you to be And didn't just live with that until the time comes when i started to write and then it will. It'll hit me whatever needs to happen. And then actually i'm looking forward to having a bit of rest looking forward to put my face up and just watching television for with nothing to do because that's just not happening. You deserve it sir john. You're you're livestream. Believe tickets go on sale. People can reach too soon next day or so next week. The album comes out on the eighteenth of june. You're on the ticket sales. You can buy to get now. But the but the actual show isn't the thirty first of july so Yeah and it's gonna be is in a great place an old church. Those beaten changes that have lots of character. Great stained glass window lovely colors but it's older and a bit kind of But looks fantastic. Great atmosphere so really looking forward to people coming to the show. They'll get songs older new. So they'll hear weakness in me bego zero job. The pilots may modify but there's also here already there which is on the new album and natural rhythm different things on the new album so they get a good cross section of of songs from through the years. Thank you so much for your time. We've gone over a little bit off now that we really appreciate taking the time for us this afternoon and your generous time and unto now crashes we ready to reshape my pleasure thank you so this is that eighty show. I hope you guys enjoyed it. I mean before we get into the details of the livestream barrett impressions of joan of sit at they. What was your feeling in our that we spent talking to. You know again another interview where we're just going with rolling with punches at asleep. Because he knew as we know many more to come and i enjoyed. It was different but it was really good. I just felt that she was engaging was conversing. She was listening and speaking to us from the same level. Which should always should be sokolow's antastic. I really liked about what i was struck by was how she's just so unbelievably humble and she's not on all you know she she's just not that whole big superstar persona adult just a normal person who just loves making music and so damn good at making music. And that's all she wants to do and she has the right intention behind you know. It's not for the fame of the menu anything like that. It's just she loves doing it to you. Know we recorded that over zoom and the three of us plus joan and and you know we're we're on early in gonna cameras on and then you see. Joan trading is is in the waiting room litter and her camera was off and the first thing she goes. Oh this three of you and cameras set for the whole time and as you go through compensation and you sort of know that. She's notoriously shy. And as i would that saw on brand that you i take you off i mean. She is massive massive superstar and she's intimidated by the three of us and she keeps camera flow. And it's just like wow. That is strong brand. That's perfect because she's such an artist and so many other things she spoke about an even how passionate she was about the record labels and people not getting the jews up being paid properly. It just spoken like a true autism. And i feel like with a she had the success or not should still be gigging and playing and making music and that's phenomenal and we sit the humility. Just normal person yes wants to make music and still making music When it gives some details about that barrett you. You've listened to the album gimmick. Give us the name their whole consequences and is now on all places you consume and listen to give it a time labs so the reason they spoke to us as along with the new album also wanted to promote lack. I think we've seen all of these sort of like livestream concerts but they're not taking on a different life and they signed to become a lot more sophisticated and the one joan is putting together. Believe you can register and sock getting tickets now Sounds like something special barrett. You've got the details on that. Yes it is on the july. You can't get all the information from a gentleman ratings websites. Join in i just on this. I actually attended the virtual hunslet. In december a patriots gizzard was kylie's absolutely. So you don diamond boss. Hell very weird. But it's the music needs to keep getting out there and his way to keep moving and keep flying so check out. Journal meetings websites social media channels. And you'll be able to see more information. Did you guys get vip tickets from john. You get vr virtual vip. Can you get to dress up or you can dress down. I think that's a vip. You'd actually dress down the less the better. That's awkward now because now realize you guys didn't get a vip debts jones. You pissing tracing down. I'm going to hof hof so formal at the talk at the bottom and see. That's gonna be melody new clothes a mullet in my clothes ye story. Thank you for joining us. We hope you enjoyed the time with john arbitrating as much as we did all the details about the livestream and album. We're gonna put it on our facebook page. That eighty show is say. Give you details in case you want to share this with somebody else. You wanna listen to it. We're going to put this up for you to listen to again Autom- with john trading gonna play out with a customer song of hers nine hundred ninety but this song was more than one kind of love was such a phenomenally massive song in south africa. I don't know if you guys remember at the time but it was absolutely huge. It was everywhere and i. I didn't even realize. I mean at the time i didn't put put together. That's always thought it was a south african artist because she was so big. It was so big. Yeah but you know that that that's me but like i say all the details on that eighty show essay on facebook next week normal programming resumes. Unfortunately for you it's it's going to normal really but yeah whatever it is Thank you very much story for Tom barrett thank you for organizing that you have been given a task of the knicks people to get for us. It's moving and it's getting almost say in the diary so staging yes. Yes the excitement savant because we all know the eighties coming back with you like it or not god everywhere we look the eighties of the and yet just not just in my curtains at home change in a long time. He's long. thanks for joining me. Guys goodbye i.

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Lesbian Aesthetic w/ Joanna Bradley - Ep. 175

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Lesbian Aesthetic w/ Joanna Bradley - Ep. 175

"So whenever i see her on an awards red carpet. I'm always like she. I know she's not a lesbian cashews. Mary site the guy. But i'm always. Yes she dresses like a lesbian. Because it's just too much yeah. She's she's a magician out your Let's die together. Hi and welcome to taking out a deming sexual podcast. As in we are sexually attracted to demi lovato and demi moore why not. I'm caroline bear she. I'm molly molly and today. We're taking out with tv writer and performer. Joanna bradley about the lesbian aesthetic but for some quick announcements our patriotic is truly the life force of this podcast. It's where we again the support. We need to make the podcast happen. We literally would not be able to do it without our patrons so thank you to each and every one of you who are part of our patriot community and if you want to learn more you can go to patriot dot com slash taking out. We're going to be doing our march zoom out soon so you can still sign up at that tier and join in the fun. Yes let's get that on the calendar mel. Let's do that. We did a poll on the patriot on no votes for morning. This much we know is true. It's not going to be happening in the morning but yeah we're some sleepy. Saf ix over here you can also support the pod by using the lincoln our show notes to get the stereo app for free where we are broadcasting. Live at least three times a week. Outside of the pod i- listeners are having so much fun. Interacting with us during the shows that is right. You get to ask questions talk back or like today bark at us. It's also your chance to hear from cecilia. Who likes to drop occasionally with some commentary. I know you all want to hear more from cecelia now's your chance. She's absolutely adorable on. And which not a surprise speaking celia reminder that we do have merch on at c. as he dot com slash shops slash staking out. I think i'll write going to get this out of the way i know. It's a long shot but if anybody has an extra kidney that they want to donate just want to put it out here you know. I have an audience. Want to use it for good. It's not for me. My uncle has a failing kidney he has been very sick and he only has one kidney. That was transplanted. it's it's failing. He needs another and he's been just really really ill at this point and A kidney from a live donor who matches so you have to be Oh or positive. I believe to be considered and is having trouble finding a match. And he has a son who is trans and would donate but because of the the hormones and whatnot. They won't even consider him for a transplant. So it's and he's been such a supportive in great dad. In that regards. His son was best man at his wedding when he married my aunt. He's just a good guy. And i feel bad and i wish i could give him my kidney but i can't so i don't know if anybody's ever wanted to do that and nearer with driving of the cleveland clinic hit me up. Let me know. i know. It's a long shot but we're the shot anyway one year in cova times a fish. It's crazy because like all of a sudden it seems like the the end is neither is a light at the end of the pan tunnel and a lot of people are getting anxiety because of that two of having to like transition back to normal way of living. Because you know change even good change can be hard and stressful. We've all been working really hard this past year to adjust to the circumstances and find a way to be like okay with this way of living. Yeah i'm anxious adjusting to the new normal. That is fading away. So i'm getting anxious reentering society. I'm anxious about doing standup again. So musty even though we're all supposed to be it feels like the playing field leveled a little bit and we're all kind of re-emerging. Yeah there have been people who have been doing comedy through the pandemic. I'm not too worried that that. I haven't been doing it mostly just because for me like live comedy without an audience. That's like they're in ready to laugh. I it's like it's already hard enough. And then you put like the obstacles of like the outdoor shows the audience that's all spread out and and then the masks covering their mouths so you can't hear any laughter. I'm like well. If i can't hear laughter i might as well be doing zoom show. What did it soon show or like a twitch show last night with sarah. Kennedy pasquas the podcast. She has this really fun. If anybody is a fan of sarah's even if you're not and you wanna be should be she. Does this talk show every week at. I think it's called like sarah kennedy and friends. She has guests. She has segments. Their games was a really silly game. She had us play. I got to do stand up. We did a little interview. A little bit of everything and i was really emotional. I because it's been a year. also she moved albuquerque. But i when we were talking before the show. I was like i'm really sorry sarah. I'm feeling like super emotional and i could cry of right now if i like. Let myself because i'm i miss you. I miss people. And i miss like running into people at shows and catching up and i also did a guest show this last week i had two shows. And that's it for march. But they happen to did gina blooms show and check it out. It's on comedy hub on twitch. On sundays it's called the antidepressant comedy hour and she's got a really good thing going there almost like two hundred people tuned in it was so good to do comedy to verified humans but it was on twitch so you had a lot of like you know twitch types on there was the comment section was outrageous. There are people enjoying the jokes reacting with like laugh emojis and that was so funny and then there was just this whole conversation the twitch users that are like is this really a comedy show. Is this really live. Know if it's if be able send in requests like it's improv or something like like this is prerecorded all conspiracy theories but very good to do the show new beginning. Yeah bring around the corner. What a beautiful. Time to just bloom speaking of blooming demi levato just came out and talked about how part of Ending her engagement made her realize just the extent of queer. She is but that she's not ready to label herself as anything right. I don't wanna butcher this. I've just seen lips of the people article and that was of course via our beloved that porter gallery keeping us up to date on lesbian gossip. It was the first thing i saw when i woke up this morning. You know demi said this past year is engaged to a man and when it didn't work. I was like this is a huge sign. I thought it was going to spend my life with someone now. The i wasn't going to. I felt a sense of relief that i could live my truth. And what is that truth. That she's kurier which we already knew. We knew that. But we didn't have the information with this specific haircut and die job so that makes it feel more real. She says. I hooked up with a girl and i was like i like this a lot more. It felt better right. Some of the guys hanging out with when it would come time to sexual or intimate i would have this kind of visceral reaction like just. Don't wanna put my mouth there. I didn't know that i'm just reading that now. I just didn't want to put my mouth there. That's the thing of the week. She also says. I know who i am and what i am but i'm just waiting until he specific line to come out to the world as what i am. I'm following my healers time line and i'm using this time to really studying. Educate myself on my journey and what. I'm preparing to do now. Only twenty eight so yeah. I mean it doesn't matter what age you are. This is all a journey and that's really cool that it seems like she's really putting herself forward. It can be really hard like calling off. An engagement is such a hard thing. Not so hard when you're dating a psychopath or engaged to a sociopath so i don't know anything about this guy film in already. Believe it max. Everage was how heels. This guy is a social climbing manipulative sociopath. He i remember seeing a twitter thread in september. Around when i think it was called off and it was a long thread the first tweet is exposing demi levato manipulative fiance. Max ehrich. Who is an obsessive fame. Leach a thread. I didn't even know that it was called off. I remember she got engaged. And i was like oh good. I hope she's happy because they know she's had a really hard time. And then but continue so. It's blatant and the thread really does a great job of laying it all out but posted in our show notes yet definitely we. We have to get this information out there. He has been essentially stalking her and not just her. A lot of other female pop stars that he's had crushes on specifically selena gomez. So that's not the one demi wants to be comparing herself to especially but like he would okay create fan accounts and then if there were actual non accounts following him he would direct them to selena gomez page demi levato 's some other lake young actresses starlets with the same kind of vibe being like flood the comments and tell her to date me. Tell her that you want her to be with me. And then you see all these screen in the thread. He even up to the week that he got together with demi. He was posting. These obsessive tweets instagram posts comments about how much he loves. Selena gomez he even. There's a video of him flashing this s tattoo. He has claiming it was for saying like see the law much. I love you and now he claims that the s is for something else. I forget the word but like solid something chopin sociopath but there's a lot of screen shots of him infiltrating selena gomez and demi levato fan groups and telling them i'll follow you back if you tell her to date me. It's really psychotic behavior dude. Just go through a mutual right. Yeah and it's also his management. There's like proof of his management pushing a lot of little teeny bopper fan groups to get attention towards him. You know that. that's that's the thing. Though that people like us their managers to try to get like hooked up with other celebrities. It is i mean yeah. That isn't surprise me at this point. Actually now that. I say that melody. It really is only going on one example. I know of one specific person. I know who will remain unnamed. Maybe they've been on the podcast. They have used their. They used their manager and ask their manager. Hey is demi lovato. It was demi lovato that they were trying to ask out. And they're like can you try to like set something up with demi lovato like maybe be good for her to be like in a public queer relationship or something. Is that something she wants. What is this path to. Demi are the demi levato fans like the swift fans are ratings going to suffer for uh even bringing this up. No we're ten. Demi moore team demi yeah not that. I'm not team swifty. Loud all her. Oh my god. I mean god i mean a positive role model arakan. I wish we could talk about her more. But let's let's do our due diligence and warned everybody against max so some around demis age yes okay. And he's an actor at the same time he's also trying to cultivate a music career. So it's like right when the demi relationship hit finally it's like then we got a single out of him. You know earlier you were like did dummy already. Come out and she did but you know what wasn't the case. She didn't have a documentary coming out in two weeks. So it's like i trust no one. She has a documentary coming out onto yes so of course that she's talking about the joke. I was going to crack. But i was like. Don't do it melody. don't do it. Just just try to have one nice thing here but no when i was renew said the time line. Here's the time line. Her documentaries coming out in two weeks and were generating buzz from the community. And it's all it's all nonsense. I mean i'm happy for her and her hair but like yes. This is obviously why this news is coming out. You know. I was going last night because what last night was thursday. Thursday nights are when i google cate blanchett and i somehow messed the interviews. That came out around the time. She did carol where she talks about how she's had that she's like slept with many women. What i'm writing entirely. This is one of those things that i didn't. I know that like. I kind of thought i knew i remember looking at her husband and being like there's no way that that's the only person she's sleeping with so she was asked when she was doing carol if this was her first turn as a lesbian and blanchet replied on film or in real life hell. Yeah and then. They asked her if she had had past relationships with women and she said yes many times i love casual come out. You know that reminds me of a question. I've been meaning to ask you melody. What's the gas thing you did this week. I did mention that. I had to shows and i am feeling rusty. I'm nervous to zoom shows. I don't know like weirdly more nervous than in person shows because they're weird so myself out. I've been doing pushups before. I log on and something about that. Feels siri demi moore who is one of my biggest crushes growing up by the way brian join you. That was like my one older woman crush. Yeah just jumping to the floor and doing it's not. It's the way i'm doing the push ups. It's not like a i'm working now and doing three sets of twelve and like britain a quick panicked like jump down to the ground and quickly get it out of the way and like the quickness of it feels really gay. I've never watched you workout melody. But i feel like you have this monitor geller. Level of intensiveness. When you do that because we both used to be morbidly obese. And i didn't even make that connection but for some reason i'm like this just feels like how monica would work out. I am very intense. We're doing this alley. What workout with me anymore. Traumatized her actually makes her very uneasy to be around me. When i'm doing it because i am. I am really intense. Like i take pre workout mix and my whole body's tingling and it's super aggressive. I will say that you're right on the money. Wanna know why i'm so intense. I just realized when i was losing that look that major weight loss period. Yeah i was doing exclusively jillian michaels workouts and well. Yeah that's yeah. That's an intense dyke right there and controversial. And you know fat phobic. I know now. But like someone i'd want to invite to my grill out. But it's like in printed. I can only do workouts from like very aggressive. Intimidating women when i used to go to studios at class. They're like certain ladies out go for the most terrifying types only get me to work out. Never have jillian on the pod. We know she's problematic. Yes oh caroline. What's the game thing you did this week. We'll see both bought crocs. Why why did you ever. I've never owned cracks before. I don't know if cecilia has she's been wanting them for awhile. And i've always resisted but i know everybody says they're so comfortable but two things. I have a standing desk now. And i stand for as long a period of time as i can and i have this like little balance board that i stand on but sometimes i need even more than that some like you know if i get crocs maybe that will help me stand up more than nobody has to see them but also i hear. They're good for like gardening and yard work. 'cause they're like foam or whatever so you could just like rinse them off. They get dirty they wore for. I mean i know like near to the of different reasons. Why you'd want to wear crocs. They're not leaving my property for sure. Cecilia got like warm insulated. Crocs which i think is a little bit weird Oh you're then who is like no. No these will be my winter crocs that those are more crocs yeah well they look like craxton than they have whole. As in their insulated they have holes. But there's like then the top of it it's like fuzzy inside and then the little back strap is made of like that. Like puffy jacket kind of materials. They actually look pretty cool. I dunno for cracks. Does anybody think that crocs actually look good or is it universally been seeing them in brooklyn like. Yeah like ironic. Yeah getting does this not get us into our topic this week because today we are dying out with joanna bradley who is a comedian writer and performer working in both new york city. La the dream you can catch her hilarious performances and many videos produced by above average. See those on youtube and she is written for shows that you may have heard of like saturday night. Live the break with michelle wolf a little late with lilly. Sing and the elisa. Schlesinger sketch show. Let's do it joanna. Thank you so much for being here today. Indicting out with us. Thank you guys so much for. Having me i love this podcast. How have you bed house. The pandemic intriguing one year in. It's perfect it's perfect. Yes i'm doing better than ever really love. I love everything that's all. Everything has deteriorated about my personality in the past year. Yeah screen even know who you are anymore. I know my social security number still. That's pretty i think that's the extent of the similarity. How long have you been. La based or bicoastal. Yeah let's see. I've not long before the maybe eight or nine months before the pandemic yet moved out here so like summer of twenty nine thousand nine. I thought like oh. I guess this is a good place to be for the pandemic and then the she went on the other foot. And that's right. Oh yeah in. April we were like wow i mean i guess we're glad we're not in our really huge apartment building with like two hundred apartments and yeah by the summer seeing everybody like hang out new york and just like love up on each other for that little respite but between cova blooms. We both were like. I cried a lot in the summer credit. I didn't process anything until august. I got very sad and couldn't like during that little respite. That's when it hit me. So i couldn't even muster to like go to a park hang or anything. 'cause i finally realized what just happened. Somebody said to me the other day and this is really dark. So if you guys feel the need to cut this out. I totally understand but it but somebody said to me other day. She's a gaas texting with my friend. My friend was like. I'm anxious. And i don't know why and i texted her back and said five hundred k. Dead question mark. Yeah yeah that like the free floating anxiety. That's been with me since i was. I know five is now been replaced by like a quite identifiable source. Joanna other other than commenting on the death tobin nineteen. What's the first thing you did this week. I know he's guessing that's gay response. Just a hard dose of reality a real lesbian response to be like well. If we're going to be responsible. Let's acknowledge the people have been most effective. I when you said that before. I was like fuck. What does the gays i mean. I feel truly just like walking to my car. Is the gayus thing anyone around here. Just the way that i was at a honda fit nar. okay. It's a toyota corolla high weight but a gay walk is a walk is a thing. And it's scientifically proven. I just found that out today. Say more about that okay. So hurting to science daily they studied case. Study of eight gay men eight lesbians half of each were street actually so never mind. Eight eight women half were gay. Gotta we have four of each control and they studied the way they walked. They had them walk on treadmills for two minutes as a three dimensional motion capture system similar to those used by the movie industry to create animated figures from living models made measurements from their movements. And based on these measurements scientists and researchers determined that the gay subjects tended to have more gender incongruent body types and their straight counterparts so hourglass figures for men tubular bodies for women and body motions like hip swaying for men and shoulder swaggering for women than their straight counterparts. So that swagger is scientifically proven. Thank god i also just want to point out. So i'm picturing like a bunch of lesbians and gay men on treadmills and they had to wear those like ball suits like the motion capture. Leotards little balls on them. Yeah and then a bunch of scientists were taking notes and being like that one walks incongruously gender is fucking freak. Like would you anymore. You already feel like a science experiment anymore one. the lady gaga music video setup fuck demoralizing but also encouraging. It makes me feel like it's not my fault. I feel like i was walking around like a dyke today. This is my body sore from a drilling so much. I'm like why do my legs hurt from using a drill yesterday. You're using the drill wrong. Did you strap federal on. Your legs are sore. My wife's bleeding out in the other. I'm so sorry ari so walking. Bigger toyota corolla. No i feel like that's not a good. That's i okay. Here's i'm going to give you a real one. Reo one is polishing my vintage bar cart areas. Probably at the gas thing is. That's it the whole thing needs to be polished if you respect it. Yeah i didn't know if it was mixed materials. It's no it's like well you. It's like glass and chrome. Yeah you know to talion anyway. It's a whole project but it's it's really relaxing at the end. You have a really shiny bar cart. So yeah it's a win win. Polishing is probably got to be a good way to channel anxiety right now actually. And then you know as you're putting the bottles of alcohol back on your choosing what poison you're going to dump into your body to talk to alleviate that anxiety i'd even more love it so for our listeners. Who may not be familiar with you. Can you tell everyone a little bit more about yourself. Your background i know you from uc. Be when i start taking classes there and going to shows definitely enjoyed your comedy consuming. That what yeah. What years did you take classes there. I'm trying to orients myself. I started taking classes in twenty twelve. Gay cool yeah. I mean First of all you see b. r. a. p. right. Yeah i did that. That is sort of the extent of my Comedy or or acting training was ucb. So the wasn't gonna do it. I didn't do that stuff. Like in college. Or anything because I don't know it just wasn't really of around and then kinda came back to new york where i'm from. I'm from new york and then was going to go to law school and was like working at a law firm and taking the l. sat and shit and then My older sister was a big fan of ucsb and she was like. I feel like you should be on a team there and i was like. Oh that's cool. yeah i should. Yeah go down there. And i'll say i'll tell them that i should be on one of their little teams please. Yeah exactly yes. Then i got sucked into the yeah the never ending eddie of Thousand dollar classes and right made history Just made history. They're constantly on that. Stage really blew people but it was fun while it lasted. It was helpful in many ways. And i credit it with like throwing me into the deep end of the pool as somebody who was like avoiding performance for a long time and then found myself just like oh fuck. You have to do this if you wanna get good at anything you have to like. Go fail a million times and be so embarrassed. And i was i was a person who was sidestepping embarrassment and humiliation up till then same. Yeah yeah that's very real. I wasn't an import did same thing. Everything's past tense. But i yeah. It was really afraid of embarrassment. Took myself too seriously. And then i took annoyance improv classes. You just so. I could like get good at st. It's terrifying. everything was so embarrassing but it was like something i dreaded but made myself do the improv. But it really does help like at yourself out of your head and acting silly yuccas like standup is scariest fuck. But it's not as embarrassing like there's nothing more than improv. truly truly. yeah agree. Improv is the first one that i did and was like the least scary for me to do and then i did sketch which felt scary because i was like. Oh people are going to criticize my writing. And that's what i care about. And then stand was just felt like me walking into a room naked and that took me like over a year from when i started doing comedy to work up the nerve to do that and then i was like. Oh this is for me. Because i don't have to deal with other people as much. Yeah there is i. I always a little bit was envious of that aspect of standup where you could just like. Get up there and Yeah no email chain chain asking you questions. That was already come out to. Yeah there's fucking yeah miss it one of the things that i love that you did it. I saw got to see it twice. There was on your sketching bellevue. You put on a new episode of seinfeld that you wrote and the episode was called the leading susan and you played the character. Susan who is dead on the show and in this version comes back zombie and just play it real straight and it was my favorite thing. It was so funny. That's so nice of you to say. And i will pass that on to everybody else because i i just want to say that team the whole town will contact each of them separately and i will pass that start an email chain. Yes really. I'll be like guys were song. Are we gonna come out to. That's on youtube for anybody who wants to watch it. Hiv views it. It kind of blew up back then. Yeah yeah so. Such a funny. I don t remember why we decided to do that but then we found ourselves. Yeah it it's a really arrogant endeavor to why don't we just read a new episode of like the greatest T show but it was. It was really fun. Well we have you here today to reprise her role of susan no to talk the lesbian aesthetic. Yes yes what is it aesthetic. What that god is a serious question or was that a rhetorical question. Because i want you to answer right now. Going to be out there forever. Well i don't want to. I don't want to see corral anybody into too narrow of a definition but i do feel like a as varied as it can be it has probably some commonalities between it certainly like you know various expressions of either like utilitarianism or masculinity even if it's sort of lake ironic masculinity kind of reflected through the prism of like whatever whatever your gender expression is. I think they're i in my mind. There's ironic lesbian aesthetic and ernest lesbian s. That that's how i divide it. Okay yeah get into that more. I like that well as somebody who I don't super engage in the ironic part. Liz all i. I appreciate it I in my head Think like psa for instance. It was my girlfriend's birthday. Like in january and i got i got her lots of real gifts but one of the things that i also got her. Was this really fucking cool vintage indigo girls concert. T. and it's like from their first tour. It's so cool. I wish i had it with me but That to me. I was like okay. I'm gonna give her. And if i were to wear this. It would be earnest lesbian aesthetic but for her to wear it because she's kind of like she loves vintage t she's got like a ton of 'em every t shirt looks good in her but she's kind of she's a pretty fem. Yeah verges on ironic. Lesbian aesthetic makes sense. Yeah i mean. I feel like i've made a shift to lesbian ironic aesthetic since hosting this podcast and we started a monthly show before the pandemic at stonewall that we were doing and like just for kicks in the photo shoot. I did to promo it. My wife had this like leather vest. Which i would never have worn in my life before but i'm like i'm going to bring it to this photo shoot and that was the one and then everybody was commenting on the best in the promo so i wear it onstage to every show and it's the only time i wear like a leather vest and then under it. I'll wear a shirt. Like i'll special order shirts like i have a tank top from like melissa cruise line. And that's awesome like. That's not a shirt that i would normally buy for myself. But i'm like this is so gay i have to have it and it feels like i'm wearing in ironic way but then but then i like grow to like it so now. I'm like maybe. I should wear leather vests more. You know maybe. I should be wearing like annita franko tour shirts that i find on ebay. You know yeah. Maybe i should just do a full honor. Defranco's shave my head and where those silver earrings yet and like a long skirt We i want to know first of all. What's the name of melissa. Ethridge is a cruise line. It's the melissa ethridge crews okeydoke. Yeah and and i learned about it. In the way. I was seeing jill sob- you'll play city vineyard and she was like carolyn. You'll never guess what i'm doing next week. I'm playing the melissa ethridge. Crews those lesbians are great. It's actually a really fun time. We ended up in a first name. Basis with joseph fuel. I am. it's only because of the podcast well. I'm disappointed them. Lizard put zero creativity into naming her fucking pissed sheeting. Call it like a porthole. Did you just come up with that off the cuff. It was off the cuff. Jesus christ that's fucking perfect. Come through porthole. Yeah i mean. I was going to make some joke about like those glass dildos that she used to sell but i missed that. Yes she used to like sell or promote these glass dildos. Used to being the operative phrasing here. Because i don't know how long how long does that endeavor continued before everyone is like. That's a horrible idea. Hazard me with that. That is a crazy hazard. There's so many other materials in the world. Why would you fuck me with glass. Yes but that's a perfect exit. That is what you just described. The evolution of your relationship with your leather vest is like. That's the evolution of like so many ironic things that we partake whether it's like language food or wardrobe but it's strange when it's like a lesbian costume because there's something sort of like when you engage in it as irony you're sort of making fun of your lesbian nece. Yeah but then when it crosses over to. I really fucking light this leather vest and melissa ethridge shirt. Then it's almost like affirming in a funny way right right right now. you're owning it. Because i've i had for instance within two girls or with anita franko for that matter. I have such a Such a a long relationship with like being really into them and then being totally embarrassed and having to hide that fact then the point of like not even listening to either of those musical groups to then coming back around now like in my thirties. Where i'm like. I don't give a fuck. It's who i am it's culture. There's this comedian. Mindy raff who she used to do. Like a lot of characters and a lot of musical comedy and she had this character that she did that was kind of like this vegan hardcore feminist singer and would perform these songs on stage. That were just like hyper feminist imperative but it was before she came out and she realized like looking back she's like i created my own dream girlfriend. That's then i came out and started dating women just like that and i did it on stages parody and like thinking that this was a funny thing to do and then i was like. Oh wait a minute. It's because i'm really attracted to these. Women who play guitar have armpit hair and like throw paint on people wearing for that is such an old school version of lesbian feminist. I love it very very nineties. That's so funny. Yelich finding your way through flight putting on costumes like a child. Yeah that's truly what it is like. You're just putting on costumes and being like is this. Is this who i am or i guess in hurricanes is this who i wanna fuck. Yeah which is really i lake. Fat discovery know the episode. That i listened to of of this podcast but was that one with the the woman who runs a league of her. Oh yes joe mcdaniel first of all those a fucking awesome episode. And i thank you so into that entire conversation but especially everything she was saying about the way that she runs that space and it just made fucking sad not to be able to go to a. I mean it's hard enough to stumble upon a dyke bar in normal right life to throw a rock and hit one But it just may be so sad not to be able to go. And i was like oh man as soon as as soon as everything opens up. I've never said this in my life. But i'm like i'm going straight to washington. Dc city in the world man. Come same for us after that episode you know we have like this patron groupon on facebook with some more supportive listeners. And everyone was like okay. June as we're like all vaccinated do we all like meet up in dc. And i'm in canada boss and get on the bus and then yeah and go to dc and make very very fun and cool there for one night and then yeah Speaking of the lesbian aesthetic. I loved her snapback. That's how she just knew we would know what she was talking about and we did. That was such a inspired imagery. I immediately took me back like it was like a visceral punched me in the gut and swept me back to like thousand into at like henrietta. Hudson's yes where like there were so many girls like that and there still are. I mean again in normal times but like one of the bartenders who works a lot of the show nights stonewall definitely snapback lesbian just like super straight hair straight hair. Yeah the snap back and like yes. Some don't evolve never been like uniform and they like to it. They're so it's such a uniform that conveys like that that's why it's so specifically lesbian because it's this really funny Cocktail of like i have. I spent forty minutes straightening my hair. But then i threw in this cap to show you that. I'm like kind of like puck. i'm like. I'm a little rasmus perfect because that is the vibe with a lot of lesbian ironic fashions to me. Seems like it's our pan ism. Yeah like when. I think sometimes of you guys are. I don't know if you guys were in new york win So like now mix closed. Max close but before i was twenty one but i went there obviously when i was a teenager That's that's the coolest lesbian aesthetic of very fucking like like nineties. Indie girl like leash haley in all over me vibes. Okay you know like a girl with like chopped off hair that she's dyed pink lake badly and it's like everything's like a driving like sleater kinney song in the background while like you'd have to fuck someone in like a stairwell and an indian yes very fucking cool and everyone plays the bass and it's just cool as how and then a close and then i think the owner of meow mix. I don't think i'm fucking this up. She opened Caddyshack okay park slope. I've heard of shack. But i wasn't there for that. Caddyshack was cool. A kind of dovetailed with like the Like when white manhattan nights decided that they were going to frequent brooklyn. Which i'll admit i was part of that in like two thousand and four two thousand five and it was like a multi level. Hang out where there was a lot of girls wearing like cut off like like a vintage shirt with cut off arms and like holding a pbr. Yeah and like a lot of like long necklaces. You know yeah um along necklaces. The report of the outfits back then they were one hundred percent part of the outfit. I have so many long necklaces. And i just got this memory of like me in college with my long necklace making out the girl but like the necklace was like getting tangled and everything and then it was literally falling apart and i was like trying to hook it back together because it was like to necklace while we were making out. Just such a hazard. Wanna mess the look. 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There's always an excuse to do a call back to another time. So certainly like a renaissance lesbian is being like young conjuring this i'm conjuring this archetype for everybody and it. It brings like feelings for people. So i think that's why things like do live on but i would say definitely depending on the scene and like the city And the type of the type of group like there's definitely many more than one per per generation one aesthetic per generation I remember coming to la in. I wanna say like your thousand twelve. Maybe and i went to a wedding where there was a lot of lesbians. It was not a lesbian wedding but they let a lot of lesbians in for some reason to the street wedding they didn't check them at the door And they had this uniform that was unfamiliar to me And i was like. Oh this is some l. a lesbian shit. It was like ballet flats and like skinny jeans with like a blazer with the arms pushed up. Yes yes yes yes yes goal hat or a fedora. Yes okay. that's reminds me of the fashions in the real l word which was awesome l. Yeah that was me. When i lived in atlanta minus the fidora but when i lived in atlanta which i feel like is la but like lamm mocked In in the south but you have like the bad traffic the the warm weather kind of an entertainment industry going on and I definitely wore when i went out valley flats skinny jeans and blazers with sleeves rolled up for sure torture. That's really funny. Such a funny look to me because it's like what are you trying to convey your try. I'm not sure it's it's a little family but the blazer makes it like a like you're trying to everyone's trying to be like fem top. I don't know it's very. That's exactly what. I was trying to convey the equivalent of like like the gave ed in the sixties. Wearing like a a bandana in one to the other is just like the fedora ends. The blazer means like yes. I'm very dominant. But these skinny jeans mean like i don't know i'll role play with you. I'm not sure when you were first coming out. Did you notice like a change in the way that you presented yourself like. We're you scared at all like looking to gay. Show me someone who was never afraid of looking to gay. And i don't know if that person exists. And he had they do sorry lee yeah out of the womb like doing her like jonty like looking like mom honestly probably probably right god so intense Yeah def definitely afraid of that but it also sort of It happened at the same time. I was young. I was like thirteen at happened. That the like. I sort of came out fully at the same time as i. I had gone to Like a camp. I had been going to this camp for many years very like out. Doors e crunchy camp like like very flake. Lot of gender fluidity a lot of really cool shed. Actually that made you know kids. Feel not so weird. It wasn't like a camp for gay kids but right yeah but he did. Turn the kids. And i will tell you the name of the camp. No it was a wonderful place but it the crunchiness kinda like van diagrams with the crunches kind of been diagrammed with me coming out. And i do think happens to be that That's that is one very strong. Lesbian aesthetic is Sort of granola birkenstocks five. So i did come back to school. That's september a like tried to try to get away with not wearing a bra because had already definitely had see cups for like a full year before that So definitely tried for like the first couple of weeks of school to pretend i was still at camp and like rock a like belly chain made of him. Oh my god berkinstocks war when it got cold wool socks under berkinstocks and this shirt with no bra and like patch pocket jeans and then one of my friends started calling me sags and it put a fucking bra on. Took the belly belly chain de friend. That's a great name. Thanks jake thanks. Jank is super creative. Yeah the belly started smell. I remember that somebody like me was like that smells wearing it for four months. So i've been getting it wet been getting soaking wet in the shower and then leaving it on my stinking adolescent buddy never considered a hemp valley. Jason that's amazing. So and i also feel because that like the aesthetic is also has the same earnestness Like of the crunchy s. That where it's like ripped jeans and like thoughtful Earth and and whatever to reflect the general like you know the gen x. vibe has a similar like we're going to help the world man like rounds like wake up everyone not just about being a consumer like about music. Seattle atl another. Yeah and that's coming in. It's in vogue now. And that's why like the nineties. Aesthetic is just constantly on my mind. Now 'cause it's all. I see on tiktok on people. Send me videos from it is there. Are there a lot of kids who were like like our young people. Fucking with fat with gen-x aesthetic. Oh definitely that's wild. So yes if they're imitating their parents. They're doing like like when i was like a kid for halloween i was like i'm going to dress up sixties person and we're like okay. Here's a sweater. This is embarrassing so another thing with like lesbian aesthetic and especially being from new york like a lot of times you talk about like oh it's really hard to tell like who in brooklyn and who's a lesbian like there are times have been like overlaps. My thing that my ex wife told me that i shouldn't say this because it's rude. But i'm gonna say it anyway. I'm like the way that you can tell if they're like a lesbian is one too many accessories. What do you mean by that. That's really funny. There's just like something there and it's like all right. You could have done like without without one of these things they'll completely. It's a way that like the style. The l word you're like okay do so. Does she needs to be wearing like a hat and a leather cuff and several necklaces. Yes yes yes it's too much. It's a little bit of like an eight. Like i always look at pictures of you. Guys know who that show runner. Amy sherman palladino is. Oh yeah so. Whenever i see her on an awards red carpet. I'm always like she. I know she's not a lesbian because she's married right the guy her husband. But i'm always a guess. She dresses lesbian. Because it's just too much. Yeah sure she's she top hats everything yes she just always seems like she's doing like a day to flourish too much. Yes you're right about that. When i moved to new york. I'm like okay. There are a lot of people that it is very hard to tell if they're queer if they live in brooklyn or is everybody in brooklyn queer. So i feel like that is also more of the gen. Z aesthetic is that like gen z queers. They have a look. That's like very queer but it's also cool so strange people aren't nursing like that. To like jesse. Lesbian tiktokers are influencers straight. People are dressing like them so is yeah yeah and we know that people have always ripped off like gay style but it right a little more surprising when they rip off in style i will first of all say because fashion is historically for gay men in straight women honestly we should stay the fuck out of it because we have news dressing ourselves or dressing because we are as everyone knows lesbians are fucking blind and we have no aesthetic sense so we should just put on some fucking burlap sacks and fuck off but yes yes thank you. God of gay men for Making all the clothes in the fashion of in the world and for making the world beautiful. Here's the thing if see a picture if we're talking to photos harder to tell enough just static photo based on how somebody's dressed you could. You could fool me more easily. Yeah that way if we were doing like queer photo hunt at a bar. That's the only way i've experienced people in a year. That's true that's basically true. But but if there's a video with movement right event or voice or anything like that then the walk the walk as we know that what the voice i have one time seen might not to get too much on a tangent but i have one time seen myself on film where i was playing a straight person and you can't hear anything i'm saying and it's truly just a montage So it's really quick shot. But i'm gesturing to someone in it and i like god you can tell that i'm gay from the way that i just moved my arm like my my straight friend with me. He was like yeah. No you fully can. And it's far. It's a wide shot. And i just do this like a duvet with my hands and it was an immediate giveaway so i do feel like any movement is blue but if we don't have movement. Here's the uniform that i see at least around la Which god i wish. I was in new york right now for so many reasons but one is because the fashion is so much better and more interesting there. There's more of it like you you. You only see like four people on the street address in la of the four people that i've seen in the last two weeks in la. The look that i keep seeing is that like billie eilish look is like okay. Ugly balenciaga sneakers. the like highwater wide leg jeans of a color kind of high waisted than like some sort of shady windbreaker material and then like of a an intentionally bad dye job on a center part and then like really small lens sunglasses. That are like lime green. Now i fucking hate this. I think it's awful. Hate the ugly sneakers whatever. Intentional bad dye job is such a thing. It's such a thing and it's rude man. It's fucking rude. Because i'm like you know what dude like cova notwithstanding. If you can afford balenciaga sneakers you can go get your hair dyed properly and like the looks back. This is why. I'm not into like ironic ironic dressing in a certain way. Because i'm just like if it doesn't look good if the shapes and colors are bad. Why are you do whatever whatever. But i see that and i fully admit that that is perhaps like That is like a gen z version of queer dressing. And that is definitely hard to tell like. I see like people who look who are seem to be presenting as men dressed that way and people seem to be presenting women dressed that way and they all seem kind of either. They could be queer or straight. I'm not sure yeah. Yeah but i'm sure that comes from yes. The the the kids on tiktok. I feel like there's a lot of nineties repurposing now in fashion but also i feel like that's early odds like they're wearing those ball chain necklaces to ufo. We kind of pan like feels like this goth early It's coming back like the mole kid aesthetic. Yes like a kid who got dropped off at the mall by their parents and they're gonna go like declares accessories and blow off steam by getting another piercing. Yeah get some accessories. Spencer's although the ball necklace. Like i wore the ball chain necklace when i was like thirteen. And that was the late ninety. S and i feel like that. Was that the early 'oughts version of the ball. Chain necklace is already a hearkening back to the ninety s ball chain necklace and yet which for for my reference was like jordan. Catalano thing right a yes. One thing that i think is universal for the lesbian. Aesthetic is comfortable footwear. But then if you are aware like wearing stilettos as lesbian is like super subversive. It's like i'm making a choice to be very uncomfortable and dabbling in straight women culture. I will say there was a period in my life. Probably age like age fourteen through seventeen when i like weirdly would would dress like very fem at times and i definitely owned heels definitely like went out wearing like very high heels which is wild to think of now. Yeah yeah And thought of it more as like a. Yeah i do think. I think you're right that there is something subversive about it because like one of the things about being lesbians like is being like withholding specially from like men right. I think as your maybe like finding your way through your gender expression in your sexuality and sort of your place whether or not you wanna court that attention. Which very quickly. I was like. Oh no oh. I don't want don't want attention but i think like that adolescent age maybe still wondering if like oh could i show them a picture of what they think that they want that is by lake dressing in the super fem way and then withhold it and experiment which is weird. 'cause actually now like i was just about this the other day i was thinking well two things number one thing that i hate is when straight women go to red carpets or whatever. This is just where i see it happen. And they wear menswear but they undercut the masculinity of the men's where by doing like really big lips like big red lip and mac really heist lettuce and like big hair and like lok to be like. I'm wayne a bully is closed. But i'm still a woman. Yeah it's not like francis mcdermott. Who's like showing up here looking bushes. Fuck yeah friends. Are girls up no makeup and like fucking lace up merrill hiking shoes off. It's almost the opposite thing. It's like the way on this straight women. Yeah at subversion but they can't commit to it right. I'm gonna like wear menswear right. And then it'd be like it has to be like a brawl let under the under. Yeah exactly they has nipple asked the judge coming out and yeah right exact and cut in that like really straight woman like when they cut a suit jacket in for straight women they cut it like sheep. Sheep like this really acute angle can. So you're supposed to look like a fucking like cartoon character. But i was actually just thinking the other day i was like very into menswear which is just what it's called even though that's not a super inclusive term but like right day to day. What are you gonna do. That's not something. I'm willing to picket line about There's a lot of discussion in the menswear community which is overwhelmingly rich and white about ways to be surprising subversive and unique so this is a thing that like the white men of menswear struggle with daily. They're like how do i stand out from the crowd because they've never they've never stood out in their that's their burden to bear. Is there like. I've never been anything but like default his attari styles. You're right exactly. They're like well. I'm not willing to do that. Because that's scary and gay but no but they do the socks. Do you remember that. Boom fun socks. Fun socks. yeah. That's the only way they can express themselves link your pocket squares socks Some of them will grow their hair out. Some of them will like in europe. Some of them will wear jewelry right. It's very narrow Opportunity for expression for them. Because they're always talking about that. I often will read these things and be like. Oh just by virtue of being a woman who dresses in in real menswear. Not like fucking red carpet. Jenna lyons menswear yard about it on your heels are too pointy just by virtue of doing that. I'm like oh i get this i. It's such a automatic buying like automatically. Stand out. Like if i went to any events if i ever went to any menswear event i would automatically stick out and i wouldn't have to do anything. I wouldn't have to like fun socks. I'm wearing actual a taylor Taylor jacket that's been tailored in a men's cut and wearing men's shoes and like proper cufflinks that cetera the burden of Being paula poundstone. God bless her talk about a vest yes she is a woman who has been rocking. Men's where in a straightforward way for thirty five years. I guess there's also this lesbian aesthetic that is probably closest to to where i've been at and probably what i'm ripping right now which is like v neck sweater. It's solid colors is just like very safe and choices and you have your staples. That's all i've and you know they work. 'cause i'm afraid to be embarrassed myself so i've never like gone for the ironic lesbian looker. Nothing 'cause i'm what's your staple it's like a literally a white v neck. T scher a denim jacket and like the skinny. Jean like an ankle boots. It's the black skin. Each talia is that norm corum also know reading like what is norm corden. No norm core is like because norm course beyond. That's like some like nathan fielder bullshit talking my polo shirt into my khakis that are like a nauseating color atanas pillows one point that felt like a very lesbian lesbians growing up my high school. We're like cargo. Shorts and to polos popped like layered polos popped collar air colo's and then the shorts for awhile those plaid shorts that like every allies. Yes at least. When i lived in atlanta every lesbian delhi plaid. Yeah the patio. At my sister's room was pastel. Plaid lesbian just a sea of them. Yes help people apart and long the long shorts but their car game. But they're in a What do you have your knees madras. Yeah y- madre sprints. That isn't funny. How that that lesbian uniform very quickly like you've you've gotten so that you've just come all the way back to like straight mill lacrosse player rat. Yeah yeah because that was the thing to there. Was i forget the name of this bar in atlanta but there was a bar. They had like the new orleans like giant margarita. Machines and on the second floor there was like this huge balcony. And all the guys were just like this variation of a frat boy and you would drive by and be like. That's the last place i would want to be. And then you show my sister's room. Every dike is dressed like that really funny. And you're like. I feel safe here for some reason. The want ruby me. That's right that's right. I know right. That's i mean there is something subversive about that. But it's like it's always hard to tell how are you doing aspirational or subversive right. 'cause parkas part of that is like wanting to be part of like i've known so many lesbians who'd dressed that like a sort of watered down version of that like ivy league style. Yeah each and there's a little bit in it that's yet even like with friendly. What's liberal you're wearing anderson and sheppard like that is like the taylor of savile row. I mean that is like the the epitome of Tradition and so at what point is it like. Oh i'd like to be part of you. Know you can never fully be part of it even think about that for myself like i follow all these like whatever menswear including Accounts on instagram. The other day. I started following this guy who is like an english teacher. And he's like very fucking thoughtful and he talks a lot about like inclusivity in menswear talk about like across race lines across gender lines like he t just like on a different level from like the regular schmos who were talking about fucking watches and like the break in their trousers. And the gronyea's shit. But i was like reading. I was reading something he was posting about. And i started to feel like guilty myself because i was like. Oh god like have. I gotten to like does my being a woman and being a lesbian necessarily exempt me from engaging in a sort of In a in a exclusive culture. Like if i put on like an expensive pale pair of like taylor trousers or like for that matter like i don't know an expensive sport coat or something in these things cost a lot of money Like am i am subverting. It or am i just like am. I goes stepping along along with the rest. I started to feel weird about it. but yeah. I don't know but i like the way it looks. So what are you going to my girlfriend maybe five or six years ago coined my coined an expression to define my style as she calls it french dad on a sunday. That was like it's beautiful. I've kind of been all over. The place like melody was saying i used to not i would be so afraid of like standing out. I didn't wanna be. I wanna be like noticed for my sense of humor. When i was younger but i didn't want to be noticed for my looks at all so i wore just like very plain shirts from the gap mostly. My friends would like make fun of me for wearing solid colors all the time which is a great thing to make fun of people for and ritual and i. I didn't understand fashion and it didn't make like it just seemed like very scary in this whole world. That like wasn't for me because it seemed like even before. I knew that i was gay. It just seemed very much for like women or whatever so it took a while for me to get out of that. And then when i realized i was k i became like hyphen to kind of counter. That and be like. I don't want people to find out that i'm gay and be like oh caroline's a big dyke now like i had a counter that and then so you you had t shirts printed up and said look. I'm not like a big diker anything. Yeah that's around with lace. i love it. Oh she's got the lead. Yeah it was. Yeah pink so. I yeah i trust her now. I'm at a point. Like i can't believe it was only really years ago that i wore my first suit to wedding and the best and it was like the best thing like. Why never do this before. So never done it and i want to. That's the style. I want to read it but i have big boobs. So how do you do it. you just have to. You have to find the right cut for yourself. I do also find like giving yourself giving yourself like a a sort of a deep neckline kind of visually like makes that all kinds of lineup like would never wear. I would never button all the way and wear a tie. Okay yeah chested enough for that That's like not vibe. I would do but Yeah i mean the describe. Okay only 'cause melody because you're you're aspirational and you haven't done it yet. But described any risks. You'd like i mean that's cool. What's the look that you'd like to rock it like the next your first covid covid. Free wedding won't caroline mentioned weddings. And like for. That's where i get the most like clothing where i'm just like what is my style and like like with dressing up like i think. I'm fine aspiration like i will. Where an ironic t shirt or something like. I'll be fine but it comes to more formal events. I know for a fact. I feel uncomfortable wearing like restrictive dresses. Like you know with like the plunging all of that and the heels. I can't do that anymore. So next self. Yeah so then. I just assume i want to go full suit. But then there's always the mental block. That i like not flat chest enough it would look really puffy. Just doesn't seem like conducive for you like Like along swaggie. Bug like assigned selene. Dion one piece. Yes something like that. Like with like a thinner pant. I've also seen like women do this. Boot cut with heels type. Look i don't like that. Just some structured. Kind of look something structured that i feel like i can't do because i'm so curvy i totally get it. I totally get. I'm naturally curvy too. But it's just a matter it's truly a matter of tailoring and yeah like figuring out where to give yourself room and where to Like i the. Here's the main thing that i've learned the main thing that i've learned is like okay because i'm like hourglass shaped like big thighs and big ass. I need like a high rise meaning like from the waist. The button of your pants down to like the crotch. I need that to be a high rise because that gives me like room there. But then i need it to. I need these pants than like very quickly. Taper and right have like no break because i'm short and this makes me look like longer and these are like very simple things but they like fuck and change everything but didn't figure out select. It took meal time to. I don't think i wore my. I su- to a wedding till maybe like eight years ago. Maybe something like that and forgetting our the causative agent thirteen. I'm like dan. That was a long fucking longtime bitch. The far fuck you doing. So what do you wear now. So you know. It's been a year since anyone's bins any event but melody. What what's your in between her that you rock it a four. I don't i just go. Hi fem like all right. Like i hate this bill doing it. Yeah yeah where the. He'll he'll be uncomfortable. Yeah right see. I don't mind like high fan. But i feel like i'm not gray hyphen fashion. So it's like. I'll get these dresses to a wedding and like sometimes it's great and sometimes as just looks like address. I found because. I have to wear a dress to this function. And then when i started going to like the suits it's like the staff at the wedding is commenting on it. Like everybody is like holy shit. There is a lady in the su- and She's pulling it off and we must come and comment on it. I mean my main problem with dresses because like the most important thing in like one of my favorite things about being a lesbian is the comfy footwear like. I'm sorry i can get away with it. Like i don't need an excuse. They don't have to feel bad about it. I am wearing flats like i have worn. Hale's own heels. I it it's not. It's not fun for me. I wear them for like a show. If it calls for it yes they make my legs look good but it sucks and wearing dresses like they almost always look better in hills. And it's always suits. I can wear like fucking oxford's which is why default this dress hyphen. Yeah because i. It just looks weird with a sensible shoe. Looks the sensible shoe a sensible shoe and address looks. Yeah it's awful an awful midpoint that no one should stop hat. Gotta keep going. Yeah i totally. I totally know what you're talking about to you when you go to the function and you're the you're the lesbian in the suit. Every person wants to come up to you and just and they always do this thing. I notice where. They think that they're the only person who's ever commented all right. They think they're the only person notices and they want to affirm you and so they'll they'll they'll be like hey ash You'll great and you're like yes. Thank you my head. I wanted to be like yeah. I know the sousse three thousand dollars. I know like look great. But they're always like sitting like like they think your this is your first time taking it for a spin and you're like not sure and they're like hey i just to like it's pretty cool to be gay nearly like you're going to be like thank you. Oh i'll stick with it. I think we need to start wrapping up but there are few kinds of lesbians that we want to quickly. Let's do a lightning round of lesbian statistics. Some we just heard about for the first time from from listeners. Like what's saint patrick's day lesbian chicago based lesbian right in her in her girlfriends favourite lesbian aesthetic at saint patrick's day lesbian. I'm guessing that this person now. Maybe i'm wrong. But i in my brain. She's a marriage between the cargo. Madre shorts person in the snapback lesbian right. Yes she definitely did her hair but she loves to drink. She's a midwestern lesbian to in my mind. A nelly lesbian like mama. Yeah oh i guess just under lesbian addresses like nelly like a basketball jersey and like maybe some like some chains with like diamonds or fake diamonds on them stuff like that. Yeah sag she. she wore. She wore boxers and someone called l. Anneli lesbian because of that an older apparently it was like. You're a real. Nellie lesbian all right. Don't ever just as psa if ever we're going to like Designate other lesbian characterize them in any way and attaching them to any kind of pop culture. Anything ever say disparagingly said in a cool way. I was like julia fucking. Nellie lesbian your billie eilish listener billion. Justin bieber lesbian. I love justin bieber. Lesbian was a thing. That had a big moment didn't it. Yeah breezy cottage core lesbian. I'm completely stumped. A yoga cottage core. And i'm just thinking someone who eats cottage cheese and has a very strong core should be a lot of protein actually cottage cheese so we were just talking about this a live broadcast with our listeners. 'cause i determine that's really come into the zeitgeist over this last year instagram. A lotta instagram tiktok. And it's like a fantasy of this kind of rural life in my opinion adopted by a lot of urban lesbians. But that's just me but it's like a lot of like paisley floral a lot of like soft lighting in its instagram. Post to be honest. yeah i get. It lead like nathaniel of barefoot. Stevie nicks yes. Yes yes yes as in hardcore got it got it. i think it really is just a repackage. Stevie nicks lesbian. That's awesome. I love that lesbian. I mean other ones that we brought up. I was saying like. I think english teacher. Lesbian is is a thing which is also the same as librarian lesbian strip as being totally. Wanna save her a little bit. Save her she. Yeah i feel like she has a lot of piercings and stuff yeah good. I don't know. I just mentioned this trip. They always smell really fresh. Smell fresh how they do it. Yeah yes is a bang. Yes thing eyebrow slit i think spawned from stud and is now just. That's lurching into all the different lesbian. It's thing on tiktok like it's like a signal a lot of it now is just like signaling online and building community while they can't go to gay bars right now like younger clears send. Is that become a signifier. Yes shaving in your eyebrow which i think was exclusive to studs historically. But now it's just like you're seeing fem girls any kind of dyke wearing or sporting it is the term that lipstick lesbian still relevant. I don't fucking thing. So yeah because lipstick. His queer feels nineties. Yeah yeah because everyone wears lipstick now right right well any last words or parting advice about the lesbian steph joanna. No one day. When i'm done with show business all just right like a seven thousand word article about it and try to get it published somewhere. Just like an academic looking forward to it so i have so many thoughts but no more today listeners Keep your eyes peeled for that. Yes please keep your eyes peeled for that Thank you guys. So much for For indulge me on this subject. Thank you for your time Where do you wanna be found by our listeners. I you know what. I'll be really realized i can't really be found my private. I'm not on twitter. Good for you if you see me in. La wave will be the only people on the street that day. Anything you wanna plag- no no. I know i don't know i don't want to love it so much fucked up but i love it. I love this show. And i really. I hope you guys know like it's it's so cool to be adding to like Adding to this type of queer content. great yeah it's it's awesome awesome podcast. That was so much fun. Hey we ever listener question. That is kind of related to what we were talking about earlier. That wasn't even planned. Go for melody. So i hope you guys know what movie i'm talking about. But in the nineties this guy made a documentary called my date with drew where he records how he gets a date with his lifelong celeb- crush drew barrymore. I remember that i remember that. And she was my big crush at the time. My question is simple and logistical. How does one get a date with barbie ferrara. Any leads or ideas much appreciated. Ll no but seriously. I love barbie ferrara too. She's from euphoria. yes. But i've been following her not to be like an indie band fan about it but like it's been really cool to watch back before even instagram snapchat. I don't know how. But i found her on snapchat and jean became the only reason i would go on the app because she would consistently update throughout the day and i just thought she was so funny and she was just. She was a model at the time but she talked about how she's dying to act dying to act so it's so cool to see her on one of the best shows on one of the best networks act in the hell outta acting i. I love her. I think she's so funny and now i think she's so hot she's a little too young at the time for me to see it the ups ohio. There's this one specific bondage outfit. The your heads know what i'm talking about. That was that really did it for me. How do we get a date with barbie ferreira. Yeah we just spent the whole part of the episode talking about how creepy demi lovato's ex-fiancee was in stalking her and trying to get a date. I wouldn't recommend that approach. Also if you're inspired by the documentary my date with drew that guy. He was a film student. who was probably doing. This is like part schtick making probably more into making a documentary and like this is a cool concept than actually being like. This is my best chance at getting or maybe both who knows what goes on the minds of man other than man but let's find a mutual. Oh i see. Barbie follows mega. Install ter- i know. Meg installed her. You know magazine so you know. Do not open that. No we can i get. I get the desire to want to do that and to think like oh my gosh. I'm so obsessed with this person. I would love to date them. And you know what it's worked out for people before rosie o'donnell's ex-fiancee believe was a fan started like sending rosie poems and then rosie was like. Oh you're a lot younger and hotter than me shirt. let's even though you live in a different state. Let's try this and you know if you if you want to be creepy like that go for it. But that's usually not how people in the public eye like to meet people and most people don't like to date fans of there's no. I'm sorry if that's going to bum you out But as far as would from people who even are just like a tiny bit in the public eye the the last thing they want is to to meet someone. People are put off by any kind of fandom. Yeah so honestly. Your best bet is to ignore her great advice melody my adult work better than being totally fanatic psycho about it. You can like befriend her friends and then somehow get an invite to a party and then ignore her there on purpose like never once mentioned to her that you knew who she was or where super obsessed with her or anything other than just like a casual fan of the show But yeah it's not. you know. This is why it's never gonna work out between me and desert coban. Just kidding. i'm married. I love you cecilia. 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Burn Da MK- Season 3 Episode 4

Mango Kush Podcast

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Burn Da MK- Season 3 Episode 4

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They've we talked about that program and a lot and one thing i think in a lot lately is with gender roles and shit on saying why you're to be a lot more a lot more mcdonald's about gender roles roles of demand female you know don't why all this type of stuff you know. It's a trinidad. The more sunday on religiously starts a different trends and patterns behaviors and mindsets the people exam saying and according to our no a mindset. Somebody either Propel you forward on. Hold you bet you. And i'm just definitely thinking about you know is gender roles really repellent four or as a whole will pick out saying about what you're saying i don't know so much changed especially from you know the time we were growing up or even grandparents. You know what i'm saying in officers. We have definitely shifty general. Rose and i guess it really depends on what what what we're talking about. Are we talking about you know. Are we talking about within the marriage. you know. we're don't burn zero because we drama every role or the tree role amir sex twitter assigned just got a problem. This man really pause the show. Your show man don't be i'm here about the show. The social media go hit shares all the magnet got caught but again scientists nine condie's cast burn alive. It's friday night lights. A good open dialogue conversations to sift these nothing geared toward gender roles or chime in awe about it. we're we're gonna dot as we are making a trend in change and twenty twenty one hour deaf. We have definitely me a car earlier. We have definitely seen a shift. The mindset as far as gender or roles male and female asked change or better yet transformed across the decades right. When i mean by that is we start to see. Some things like you might see the biography. Everything's man does this. You know man goes to his house. Mango his wife. Elaine house mother does all happening. Kids one say done out. You know man my work job and have only one job right but then all that technically audit really pains and in world war one. What two main simple. You know the the wanna start be. They're taking more jobs on the household but listen as time goes along you know. Is there such as. I don't wanna say along. I wanted to be politically incorrect. Is there such thing as a as specific as if you had to do as a man and specific things that you had to do. You're only is specific goal. But you know that's a great question. Don't eat away. You know what i'm saying not really just depends on your situation. I know traditionally. What were you know. Most of you know grown up is another man as the provider he's the editor household. You know he takes care of bills. He off saying traditionally you know what what we were grown up. They scare the house blase blase. I mean an astronaut. An garnett still father dish. You know map by the bad thing you know that the house. But even in i'll say media is going to now calming people know personally. Do you see this in house. Wife or girlfriend weber. He just house that house. Yeah i don't know maybe maybe two people whose housing and they kind of they said out they work from home news one or two people like i said that literally all they do housing. I look like haussmann tight ship now. They don't work. Yeah bars on their cycle. The mom but i don't see i. I don't see it because my system for example. You know brother-in-law out. Oh yeah is january. Fifteen shutouts dog known as president delay on kamla harris no Not to be the first of vice president woman are woman vice president in american at the modifiers stuff so get to accolades also out as long as they had their just coming up to airbus word except except us at alpha. Kappa alpha's simply roles and accuse air by may one not saying in december. But no one else outside that definitely well saying early on said the house like then i'll say all sister you know she she. Has she been doing stuff you know. She urged worldly now. We have a you know. She has a twin thought. Not my niece and nephew Liberal one. I'm like yeah it'll be to data. There'll be two in april right but But again she thinks that how to spend my brother long lawyer law firm than he has a coupla profit and we're going to housing project so he has a lot of things going on right so he does all up however though just opened up her business now s extra elements are l w it is suggest obama. She's not type of of the house on them. You know best again that goes back to like that. That mindset where. I'm just not going to sit there. Interstate cheer you. Don't have to senate house the somebody you had to be doing something. I what can i contribute down pot now again i called back through mindset of how people were taught it but when we think about generals like why. I out playing devil's advocate. Why man you know my stock come off craig's arm. Is it man pressured. Goddamn young age. You know to have to do this and having to do that. In order to be successful you gotta have. Abc cbs. you're not civilized man. If you don't mind all the way for your family and all shit and if you are you know not the damn leader all of what. What what you got to leave the household book oppressor pool for our also. Look down on the women. Because i'm online on no some booze who struggled with some women who struggle in that area with you know in the house cleaning repetitive. To maybe really going through it. You mom's raising kids at the house. I never having a three year. Our son designers. I know what it feels like the you know and you know really take care of your kids and you know. Make sure that the being active and teaching them and stuff. It's draining berl. twenty hours. Easings out and twenty now as wrong. Would you the traditional the traditional. It's if the wife stay now homework or house right. Is it their sole responsibility to take care of the kids like cooking for them clean for them. You know keeping the house clean. And and i get it. I understand you gotta work. I'm standing you have to do works for you. I get that. I'm get the alberton on a traditional side is it like you know. Is that plausible. That women should be doing that shoot. Shouldn't won't be a housewife. You know like that. That's what to do rather have a housewife or would you rather have Almost like a damn goal type person or you know the want. Wanna do it really depends on your situation. I think and i know some some women entrepreneurs that'd be out in what i'm saying. They may be on different totally different situation. You know things mapped out for your kids have they. They set up to it during this time period. So it just really leaning besides situation though about now damn pressure to the fucking for formats level. And if you're not pointed them level you're basically like fucking got earlier at a chair. Charity old on on all the fast talking share and whatnot and list and he and he he says like which is really genders. The fucking construct right not granted. The made this dance clear live. I say clear. I am not going to be on this phone. Listen please. I'm not going to be all you're saying that jenner doesn't exist or sets said there's something called for some odd nat staying. What my thing is like the whole generals like is it is going to twenty twenty one. Keep your plane the same fucking role nowadays like is it is it is it. Only the man's responsibility the fucking go out and platnum provide or is it. Is it something like the woman needs to fucking contributor now. Greenwich central situation with budgets based on societal norms. Is it is possible. Nowadays like should people fucking two parties contribute or should one to the word at light brown is necessarily alone. Yes or no. You know what i'm saying just like you know. I know some people that you know some mail entrepreneurs i worked for ourselves. And that's what they want. They want another woman who will have to be entrepeneurship as well or if she's already entrepreneur you know it cuts off of trying to figure out you know the situation when you less common goal to easy you know to me when you work like that is that not a ship. The traditional mindset whereas like thing about activities snowfall on their own. Just just again. I keep saying. Societal norms is still pressure you know for me to be at a certain level where my wife starting with with the pressure of have nothing i gotta happen. I need be here. I'm not. I'm not fucking plan. His role. I'm less of a god damn man now. The thing i think about this shit who the fuck says that if you listen just the address eliminate shit on men who don't don't provide every single little. I'm looking at the last year. I was well speaking as a housewife. I think that it is expected for you to do everything. But like you said i have twins and it is exhausting. And they're almost two but like it's a twenty four hour job like you're twenty four hour daycare like even with a spouse partner and i don't think the i think people are understanding now because they had to quarantine with their children but it's like it's exhausted ways that i never would imagined like so house. Mothers definitely do not get enough credit. Yup and i'm. I'm eating my words about a lot of misconceptions that i had going into being a housewife and a stay at home mom. So yeah it's tough. And i know can't me. I'm going to have much where you know to. I'm not one away from it but it is to to twins and dance sister and that'd be too i listen nowadays aller stab. How's that babies are athletes. I sorta they could crawl on fucking everywhere. How is that fucking possible. You know like you turn your head and county were wrath chin. This is especially just imagining folks. Actually working an damn kids grow the sisters. She has she my mom once they daycare. We'll get call so She's in the daycare But again work with shoes this. I'm i'm other. He goes to work like that. So of course he's gonna inner gonda you got to skew responsibility. Not only half the work like you said you're working from home care to kids east on this call joe is it okay. Fight like ask you some questions. They're not weird like you know light up. Kids nokia took the champagne kids in the sheriff a role a way to do there argue period. That now crazy here a question to my doctor program by again. I know that everybody has wished were just for your opinion. Why would you ask okay. Armored prime example like say you days like if you're married and your wife makes more than you know say or you know whatever the first year apartments more is there some at all up your own stand and ishmael with over one. Yeah here here here. Now but my daughter program council writing we did have been in there to give them prime there. We had a lot of older man right like no older. My dad does your bike. Not seventy like that. That owner sixties ranks right. That there's listen all this stuff so much motzer justification was that no. I wanna feel comfortable with my wife. Make all my partner wherever making more than me. Because i'm the man. I got the house in every aspect. That's that's spiritually aid. And all that crazy shit. You know what i'm saying and maybe maybe i'm not saying he's big time like like do i mean unless you make a hundred k. A year you know saying the department mega so you. You really have a problem with your wife you know. Say oh your partner making more money than you granted. That is not my. She's going to run out. But you know. Feel that makes more hill. April mega more than me at one point talk. You know what. I'm saying like you've been a lot more than me. You know and i never felt any type of way on that shit because it was a chance of like well. If i if we're for making this remake we make you know and with that being said there's no identifiers modifiers that determine who is better than the other person based on how much money make right now. That's what i'm thinking but apparently I'm a fucking anomaly. In the system. Because if i you know i i make less money than mom. Okay with that and you know i. I don't don't me that because my thing is this and told one mode ask. Nick is like new. This is not fuck in nineteen forty-five you home saying where women didn't have an air rights book could work this like the air by works nowadays granted and then knowing that i'll be don't work in the in the education field death primarily the female driven. Aw field so most of the teachers most principles Working board off beaming right so with that being said come in as certified less than say someone who's certified area certified school council per pages. We're looking little per patron little fatter than mine. You know won't point time. We're making about the same but for a three year hiatus almost four year us does bad. Yes sir man. I think it should. I have been okay wit. My will make them more. Granny yeah no no. I don't want someone. Chauvinistic what i know i think it's like lincoln abraham fucking men nowadays as i honestly they've people against the shot up definitely one a year thoughts on this We're talking against scientists. Nine gas friday night lights now bernie just bounce gender roles out saying silja norms right My stance right now. Is they put too much. Societal pressure fucking you know to perform at surname levels and jeff through research. Just broom Experiences you know as being a male especially blackmail at that to in america We have a lot of pressure you know we. We have a lot of. I two to have to be cernan level and a certain time you know if you don't have as much money you ain't for dan you know if you don't have this this job you'll have this car you don't have this place. There's too many fucking societal pressures that we have got their man you know. And i'm not saying that know life. Harder know meet certain expectations. I do get that. However i still think to this day that we have way mort north by and we don't have enough mental fucking support behind. This is that we were told. Everybody told talk how to carry yourself. I mean is what you're taught you know you how to get money. You know feature self cook. I get all that but just on surname things a man you need to be making this amount as a man you need to be a fucking league your household as a man i think about it. I it's my south but the you know label this is on. You know some beta amount ship. As i don't really get a fuck them leading. You know what i'm saying like i'm over. Got him talking about phone with the flow. Also goes back to the situation there. You gotta make what works to you. Took more than about how to get to that point where it's like books. I am not fuck about to know. And i guess we're more it's with everybody to college. I see us. You know the women. They are different different caliber. Right there count. were you got. Abcd dismount money. You gotta be bad bitch. You got a lot. Not they got a lot of pressure to invent they. How you more pressure. And i'm gonna get to that later on does hey. It's really gut that generation. That's right after us but not necessarily tedium miss men whole generation and they can turn to salvage and by audi. Don't me to you gotta give you own. I could definitely see. You know they'd shifting you know from a gender perspective. I could eat anything. I don't know how y'all gonna listen like the whole. Laurie harvey situation. You know hard jumping from due to do it in the industry on you know she's gonna get in you. Know maybe crucify lowering heart. Steve harvey's all and season. She's like the female could be futures the ashes this though is that should appropriate as and this just a lot a lot of fucking printed on december could call on say. I can't say one thing that you know. I guess you know moving into these generals and women are starting to become a little more about what they want and And even a lot of a lot of settle for whatever situation there we're gonna tonight. We're toy. Twenty-one ain't no more shook off album i personally feel like it's a throwback to things one is capitalism and people being stuck on the idea that you that one you have to make money and spend money to and then to a throwback to sajjan save us not in a sense that men shouldn't feel valuable or feel important that men are more important and more valuable and therefore should make more money should spend more money said take care of things I think nowadays people are moving to minded in relationships are partnership. That should be more important. And i think when you take more initiative to focus on the partnership in less about. Who's making more or doing more. Those things don't really matter to a man or woman So not even just that a man should be worried about their their wife or partner making more but also that a woman you know can identifies. Women should wear that either. I really appreciate that confident that that. Thank you Call eulogise to the partnership in you know. People should be more on a partnership you know and i get that you know you let me think about it when you start learning that you start our next year probably at the five six years. The argument the same shit. I hate us working together because realistically you okay. I mean this you know by any buys. Mayer's relation bring that primarily aired by goes into a relationship with with some fucking expectations. And i'm probably more women now Again by women chime in. I'm not. I'm not a meal. Did the puck and meal. Saw like fucking mail based on things so women going in with these expectations and a lot of this. I'm not saying expectations but the bury the better words as unrealistic expectations right to know under the city. I could main by hoda bernie. Lettuce cabinet can mainers ready. I think women going into these damn situation shit. It is just here too many expectations right. You expect you. I'm not knocking anybody for any dad or having dreams or whatever but i think that there is a mindset that when you're gonna you're gonna find a so called right guy you're gonna meet this guy every act of what you want. You know. what i'm saying is good optimistic. I do understand that. Like even even as the day of the dan man you know. I have something for the expectations. You know of of of you know my my wife will partner. You know whatever right however going into situation star now. I'm not going to expect them all. Well you know. What if i can't find a man occupied for man. I can't find a woman they add you know A causes keisha as they got no kids credit this she has ever hear like the cfpb. Yes thank this is way all the time unrealistic shit. I'm not going to give up the realistic night. When you find a woman you know especially sometimes somebody damn black woman to. They're going to have a little bit of shit. Come with you now then again. This little teddy baiter kid. You're not gonna make all was that was that was that news name who you're not gonna get that google was going gonna get that you're probably going to give the bear and but again with that being said. I'm going there with the expectation that okay. I'm not gonna have all these unrealistic women now on the flip side of that when it comes to women. They generally have a different expectation when a man should have when it first meet mike. Meet this guy. He'd been have all these. Abc gene and if you don't lying bubbling nobody you know what i'm saying. Don't settle duck. Settle don't do not go. I know a lot of women. Just stay top situation. Both look about being in the incident near toxic situation to walk away. See somebody somebody. Somebody's somebody out of patrol. Let's be realistic. You respect all these espa taste damn guide yet you will not contribute damn near a third of the shit that you want from here to give you will get that but yet they shut down because you have all this stuff y'all saying that mindset of shit you've got to deal with as a i'm already fucked up. You know all these so calm. Pressures wally so-called things. I do with expectations. The hail trying to beat the political support of the the political system in america and krizan system. Koch off. i got all this shit. Now you need to have a fucking you know. Eight eight thirty credit score. You know i come out goddamn. College offers a fifty thousand dollar job as soon as i walked stays. I think you really caught. Khan indian changing errors. We talk about you know. Salaries undermining the scientific resident back to the gender. You know man you go to school graduate you get you get a job worth thirty years you know you you know you pull out google fucking man. While we talk that she'll i gotta go gotta go work sweaters. You got dan damrau. You gotta use your damn no. I ain't gotta use mock enhance my goddamn brain. You know what i'm saying is not sometimes another damn thing apart word that as far gender roles in my pants concern that this dan rhetoric. Where you if. You're not working hard you know you don't wanna as a man and you got a fucking grind grind guavas. No motherfucking use your brain. That's the thing about that. You said that grinding shit is fucking on his fucking pointless but yet we're but yeah we're talking bryan you've got to get a pride you gotta know no black man you gotta just grind to have. Hey hey way down. Deep lawn up kidding. I'm i'm kidding your sooner about the issues we talked about this shit on just run aground ryan but but it again i keep. I keep a y y clo- like you've got to work hard again week. That the partnership and amass ad is but you know. I went up a little bit unrealistic expectations. Our place of porn. You know on us by them or by her own. Women were from within expectations. this evening. Auburn nancy even get a hold of the king about opening summer and hold certain situations. That may not be long. Ride should have jobs. You know business. Anything man buckets key that shit again see why a lot of men have mental illnesses exquisite issue situation. Because you can really plug by anyways The on a multi-annual is trying to buy within or to do thinking about what you said. You're y oh you ain't no damn man you gotta fuck into end on a wound for something taught and even like you look at this. I'm going to go. I want to eat this. Not right now but that Women have and this is coming from women. Women have unrealistic expectations. Because we tend. And i'm gonna say we. Because i've been guilty of this. We tend to look other relationships and we look at other people and expecting to be that way when in reality no relationship is ever going to be the same so you walk into a relationship thinking. That's what you're supposed to beginning. That's what you need when in reality you don't even know what you a and the you you're expecting things that probably don't even work for you so i think that's why a lot of women going into relationships feeling this certain way and expecting certain things but like i said before. I think i mentioned it on the other shows. You gotta go into shit not expecting anything. That's the best way that i sometimes even going into relationship or you know on the apartment. Each other problem only people rushing to see a okay. They don't know how to second. Learn yourself love yourself in your from whatever you need to do. But we're not. We're not told their shit. Because if you tells the think by getting a gold that decide north you tell the woman that shit for you love you. Love yourself the in their mind. I need to be married by the time. I need to have so many kids. By this and time all condemn unsuccessful pariah. Unlisted to give our that too Are they going. Melissa ethridge east. I'm ruth rotations wrong fucking needed on a housewife's crawfish tin look in that era alone. Does that the whole hypoxia looked at just the scar. Just the general population any damn way. But really you know saying. I think it was attack on the psyche. How women because women right on the show now at certain way they got money. The active -cerned down way. I don't need. I don't need this. Da da take your my damn self you know. Then i wanna see damn thing like i'm just i'm just because i'm putting of unions. Just pay my bill shutdown. Cook clean on a ship. Nothing do that. But is this the unrealistic expectation. You know i need to that. Doubt army had some mother fucking sue. You know it take care of you know wherever they live. I would use it like that man. I no i do see that. Maybe maybe that. I mean on a cheap motherfucker. You don't plan. But it's like. Maybe i never had to words on just pulled money away. And just like listen swing. Do i mean unc. Ray after a with just talking about. Am killing knowing these five knowing these a one time. I accident twenty days like that. Not only back. Does mice offered about uncut couple of bills. The secret you walk over you step all your talk you sit there with about you know scratching ankle a little bit grab this and put it back in your pocket. Walk back end rebate. This is crazy and again i visit people will throw money around just got and i guess i haven't lived that type of lifestyle so i can't really speak on the half of that lifestyle because i don't know i don't know. Let's say granite. Now let's say modern shit. Bb's ask questions you know years single man your early thirties and your six figure on or you might even be a millionaire once you be looking for specific woman last. Put it that way. If that were the case. Okay now would. I need to that as free. Twenty twenty four marvin on our prior twenty twenty one. Just just like you're young. Just want mid twenties to stick figures or or. Are you looking for specific. Talk about gender roles. Do you wanna date another sixty. Would you find a trophy wife. You know what. Honestly how dan house talk of organic my mom. I would probably find somebody who has just as much money as you not mean by. Stop very fucked up the damn say because if i go into it if i go to the shit and your basely latching off of me you as a dad trophy wind that means that again any for any any trophy live you have year and To me europe fucking my ability. Because what are you have all your out again clarify. If all you're doing is being choked y. And you'll know nothing else outside of that you're a fucking live now. If you if you got your entrepreneur types in that nick say you know do your thing or whatnot. Guide you anymore. I got you but you still have your home. Dr make girl cool trophy. Nobody the back to your original question is that i would rather just have ongoing and making six figures seven figures. I want somebody to mess me on that. Not saying that. Hey you got gotta fucking cool. You're damn weight but just children that you had the same mindset. You're not mean because if it is not so much a table you know with something. Yeah you come there dan table. We're all come to the table. The guy did you know what i'm saying. It again is kind of like a potluck type thing. Don't come to the got a knife and a four eat meat. I'll cook ace someone out of lifestyle just trophy. Being trophy bounded trophy on pay for my body. I know way body now. Any bang opt gospel. Not your i mean. we are buying 'em cable. I'm just saying you know if i will call. Don't waste your time with these girls and society. Get your money right man. You know what i'm saying. What's the time. It's like a whistle. Mind film stealing you. Whereabout you it's gonna come to you. Don't worry louis gonna bless you. Just write short. I don't ask them new to. I agree with you actually few female friends who love gonna go to you know certain situations when you're dealing with toxic situation and they haven't quite allow situation and i'm just like oh take a fucking stepdad. Take a deep breath. Plucking wanna do is always going to be here. There's brochures of men women on this earth and that's men and women they don't want to sit down and really focus on me that that's really a point is is looking at millions just having that i keep saying like damn initiative bill a mark up from my heart and soul into this the united states bars pleasure martin sold in the next within like now the district fucking back fire. You know what goes i. Guess swazi oh to be realistic. Maybe maybe is different. That man that that's still over couplers relations with the help. You know what. I had been problem. You know prior to traumatize them the murder scene. You know what i'm saying is happening ever broke now. Take account the answer questions before. With that account if i had during that timeframe my life if i was a six-figure owner six figure maker whatnot figures and that situation happened to me. Oh no it wouldn't be now for right now is like wayne this you. I've stocking this money and everything i do. You think about that. No one any type of attachment out in one athlete is a connection because again some people are female art from ties from other relationships. You know again because you had these expectations this you should go this way and again no one really talks about you sit down as a but what are we now. Expect damn best always the love. We didn't this. Hey cool were but within when the roles your general roles responsibilities angrily defined or at least that's my a little a man you know all own especially like that gave i. Hey you know when you're moving again when you read the having listed then when when when you know when you know what yeah before then. But i will say this ticks. Anybody would not have all shifted to find out like freedom or you might be Nothing but you really start to understand you own. Space here on tiny differs. Have your own space ship ursus. Your shared has been spotted. Somebody unless you let a fucking castle. You're not mean you know one of the first couple of weeks you get together tonight together. All that good shit is it scientific data than even even while that. Oh this billion dollars in everything. Everything's cool you know and people before we get the next call. I'm gonna let you out the secret. Everything usually be cool where everybody has their own shit. Like if you're you know if you got spot you know say your girl come over better girl you guys do. Come over whatever going on you know. No whoever got your ship shoes usually better because again. If i get mad at you we have problems. You know what. I'm going to of a couple of days. I mean there's boever you're saying argument was up. The have argued orphan. His ship it really. What did your fridge off the mice as i think about it my mind. I'm taking care of myself now. I'm bringing you got the picture in fucking how them live back on. I think it depends on the man. It depends on how humble he is as a millionaire that young or six figures. Whatever reminding you make it just depends on what kind of man he is like. If he's looking for a trophy he gonna go him trophy like if you want a plastic wife. He don't give him a plastic white but if he humble he may like a girl who are struggling college student she got two jobs and trying to make it. It's the hustle in the humbleness. You know. I guess it really depends on her too because if she looking for a free ticket nee you know they it is what it is but if she like i said trying to make it on her own then he may be attracted to it because you never know where he come from she come from joe i i appreciate that most likely young rich. You know whether they show it or not absolutely you know what i'm saying Saying that everybody but sentence. Yeah especially when you're young you're free maneuver and do you want now. We're too so. If i again if i if i had that mindset now especially now if off single you know and i'm big fucking million dollars you know whenever types of event well over style. We'll be looking to settle down but let's let's go back five years between thirty year range if i'm single i'm making me and all of them holding off at that. Point is the thousand more. God damn wealth. You're not saying time does come that want to sit down Now with the mindset. I have yeah have where. I will have to find spy who i'm not saying on the same level. The here lemme financial. Like i do put a number on it whereas i would want somebody to to be at the same level authorised by nancy of money albeit. When i mean by that. I mean you're on the same break. Mike were both bringing together. You know or even if you got business it like we have to have the same type perspective on things you know. So you're you're doing due to work you know i'm at work. You are osborne order. You got this. Also we have the same goal understand that we will work out well for this third. I'm cool with that. You know just cinderella sandwiches nope e sandwiches. I'm good like about this. Should not because type of person slide. I'm not hating how you come home. And you know pay of legend. Bill is shit survivors. It but that's my mind. Says i can't come to the house dan. What you've been doing all day should wait. Wait wait group you now. This is a little trivial What do you think it is appropriate or are expected for a woman to cook for her man. Do you think that's suspected. I get i get those just in general though. Should a woman cook for her man. I won't say expected dope will enjoy doing you know. No yeah i mean. I wouldn't necessarily expecting you know what. Maybe i'm just off often was more like this individual this. I've been asked why you're still working. You know through shit to but on them. I'll be expecting that shit grant i have. I had weird asked me to patterns like you know to this day like the subject. I'm going to call cintas for pretended for reasons. I have the worst eating habits as not. I don't eat unhealthy schnapp i. I wasn't however tennis day. You know i'd kick healthy but it's like the weirdest damn thing you know what i'm saying. I'd like for example i've made Assault bright on this Behalf black beans Some brow- bison spinach some sauce important. So i had done. She was great. It was really so all of the last so get black beans on the have brown rice. I'll world vinegar spins on quite some beretta ninety very a whereas. Like i'll make something you'll not see for example if somebody's ice cream right like most the ice cream bowl. Well not me chuckle. Manana down some some peanut those chocolate on air though some fruit and they mix it all up and eat that saying or need some way but overseas. I'll off off. Michael peanut butter and jelly south within like take like some chocolate right in like mix it in with peanut butter. And i'll take for no the bar and put on a sandwich it. He'd that shot you very bad. Go shopping teaching. Thank god eighth fucking hot dogs. Last night. i was hurt. Franken be chicken. The whole artist. Chicken hotdogs you know like this. One again wattle tipper. I soon you must must be mad. Saying i got. I got golf. Chancellor on this writing over will get censored for this on listeners. say thank you for joining these scientists. not of the male You learn the in k. Friday night lights. We talk and talk some shit right now. We're talking about general right now about again these stimulus checks and how much our government fuck out is money right. I'm i'm one case you all. So here's the bush here. I i got on the phone. We're gonna get this year. So i got on the phone and i call it. These mother fuckers. And i was like granted. There can't provide social security number birthday no identifying information. You can't their tax returns. So i had to ask him to certain way information. That base got an answer from me so okay. So i told her not. The payment not received type thing writing far. Whatever so basically this well this is going on. You are going to get your stimulus check. How ever though. If you don't meet the january fifteenth because again they had to turn fatigued or make a direct positive so again if you have a bank that let's say plus any drops your bank couple business days. Well rented. you might see the ship between tomorrow always until monday or tuesday. He in locate off on monday so we might see tuesday. She said if you don't see shit on tuesday prematurely senate you check this though. They started to send people checks in the mail or the credit. Pay cards with the stimulus. Check on their minds you dated. They didn't tell by homeowners than why they were doing. You check out the surname time. There were going to get the payments out because they have been were twenty. Six office stimulus money out to people. Why won't they tell us that she does. But they don't top two. Oh here's a whole hog hogan just give you that money right however you don't get it by search. High taxes. Do this tax credit rebate shit. Right so far listeners. Doll ever believe a high anytime. They say tax credit. Or you're basically basically telling you to bend over you asked about the puck ask. That's what basically we because a prime example right so member. How are used to get a tax credit for going to school. This shit del saying they manage to cut cutback on as she lagged sparks x. Ice tournament school. When i was in school. I do my my little tax money thing and whatnot and i was getting that money. That's lush was bound. You're seeing farce. Aren't bil- mary joint. I was guaranteed to get at least fifteen hundred basketball league. The knicks textiles. Pretty damn good not state return. Shit thank never stays the crazy enough. I understanding to the fans got the keyword s federal reserve mattamy dollar. So that's their money. It creates guilt. They've been unless you owe them biggest millions and millions of dollars like you know what pay the state pitches sons of bitches like nick aero graham to liberals and squeezing the cheuse those mother penny penny-pinching type motherfuckers these assholes every single time. I always had to send it at extra documentation to prove that i. I have a business. And i spend the money. I was like motherfucker. Like i had really go back in and tell them i sit there like all no seats nick. Now that's not making money off of this. She gave me some expensive bet. So anyway we've always bought all because they wanna give the thirty three dollars last year and then we got are four dollars for this. They had the audacity to give us hustle fucking dollars which you may much taxes and i can't drive down claremont load or without pothole turned on goddamn engine. You know what i'm saying going to test focus on. That's real real. I like now all these fucking hough. Potluck we live in a south fulton. Nick we had one cop between like tim. House saying like south fulton. They're not looking for. I bushy offenses. Like they're down. Look for the murders a day now saying now all this but they were short staffed by an what acupuncture on monday but but again that's gone for that ship rebates sham ever. What about when. I get into that burger nine. I'll say of our listener. Kipness be one. If you wanna know how much fun thinking about this i'll come sacred Let's say you make Six thousand dollars so the government while the taxes cool fads and the state. They're gonna take at least thirty percent nation. You know i. You're so you make sixty thirty percent. That is twenty is forty thousand or ten twenty. Talk so you're really offering a forty k. Not say out of a sixty k. Job on your ap agr one right. Okay fine whatever still make forty teams now with that forty gees. You gotta take lee's half of that shit unless you know you live in know in a damn tent. All offer got seventy five. You got to ask you put it in far. Rent of euclid makes you're pay. 'bout half which right so with that being said that you got twenty k. leftover and that's just on now say you like to do stuff whatever generally speaking you might have ten k. Leftover just whatever. So if you're smart the you'll have money. Let's even go nap. As the average damn joe is not making sixty cage house to college green. Mike ideas myself example. I just got a damn pay. Green a pay raise from what they're making out beforehand oil making. You've always making thirty k. Well fucking doctor for like thirty dam. Katie how we'd that guy thirty k now. They're taking thirty percent of that shit. So i'm already at nine twenty k. Or whatever then half of that. Dan twenty is gone down living expenses other. Let's say you got debt bam musudan new year. Pull your shelves today. Expect people literally to live off of by twenty thousand dollars a year now saying and then when it comes to tax season you nigga take ten percent thirty percent of my shit yet you fucking audacity to give me back ten percent on my shit. You know what. I'm saying like for example. If you're working thirty if you make down like idea they take thirty percent of take ten now that ten they only give you ten percent back so at ten thousand dollars you only give me a thousand dollars that you say omay you good good job tax. Return to ten thousand. I mean also southbound at ten g's took for be scamper upload. I need to get my racing. I wait waiting on the chamber. Example prime example boy forty five right. Now i'm gonna say how is this nigga not only facing charges now other types of charges that he still has not shown tax. Return information. greg like about this should now do literally just stuck his finger out on their. You know what. I'm saying like like russia but the back the corporation you on racist vegas on the tax breaks write offs and show. Mike that breezy how much money they think they get back in the heavy draw in. You know that. That's that the middle class you know and i speak in general. They're going to try. I'm not saying they are trying to get rid of. It is going to a class a. Class system where is only reason for guaranteed within a niece least at a at a minimum. The next five year definitely seen a map. But we're definitely gonna start a you see a lot of gentrification. Oh yeah they also ask this pittsburgh along nothing to get your white people but you can you ride through a rough watertown primarily black or hispanic and you see A white person with their looking dog running with sunglasses. Shit smiler shift yet. The damn tract houses like two blocks away saying that change. You did you. In his bad there were no theater. You could tell them you know. I mean for real for real. I mean but. But i didn't believe but i'm seeing unfold deficit pittsburgh community because offers got their homes burned. Now i got there to donald minded. Don't they was all a get in the car in shot over. You know robin offered got even now and a lot of we actually have an office and we actually have gone over very wrong. Whole community needs to change and hitting it you For for our listeners. Out there you know definitely chime if you have a dialogue on gentrification or excuse me the revitalization process of the particular area right so ten extent. I do understand you now. The process of revitalization politically correct. Turn the air because guerrillas. Yeah somebody's gone. Now i'm standing stimulate. You know a new home buyers and business in irritant to bring that that area backup apart. I do understand that. However most of the time is usually people that of is map of color made and those people of color usually pushed out to the outskirts or in can't cuoco. What do you call reds all right now in the state of georgia city of atlanta. Especially downtown you see certain areas where you know occasional going on like prime example. Was that place. God will look more than avenue. Little five point prime example. Because i we've got a dandruff over there man by points out it was nick. Hey now they have station or apartments is so is so built over the meeting. Comic marts nutrition type bodley's Bed bath beyond area. Debbie's saying you can just be a big bear mart. You know what i'm saying. You have the baker think they basically got just price on their meat. But on that that gentrification playing this year real but in in atlanta honestly. What's happening all those people. They're pushing it down to clayton county. Y'all saying like clinton county we. I moved to georgia clayton. County was pretty rough. That's just hor ally is is bad Is over there. It's bad and again. It's not the same as the people living there but now ever bad apples can't spoil the bunch you know. I mean an we. You tried to claim county detail that they're just lacking on some type of one that they're lacking infrastructure there. But you could tell the date they catered to different clientele of people when for prime example. And you know a barrier with this this call this call talking about. We're talking about just the case we're talking about the area right not out now the april so his thing and i'm always promised apple camp. Greek cobb parkway took squabble prominent areas right now granted. Yes cobb parkway in cumberland mall and oscar great. Abbott have a mall yet. Have new brace Stadium breath but over here. See there's going to be a little more commerce in his areas. I get that. So i'll count. How ever camp pre cobb. I'm gonna sadist fucking. I hate everything about it. I hate it hate that damn. Am steep theatre bill by brooke anything oprah in that area exotic so nigga plod ano- bother to say but everything over there is so much at cosma service there's no real commerce and there's too many of 'em plus god damn chicken joint. I can't stand that however chicken like they to say my sound politically incorrect. They catered to the over there. Like that's all catered to smalley this really nothing true value over there in camp here yet keep building houses out however most of them they are they are. They are now going to cobb parkway right so commerce. You can't can't cumberland mall. Which brings them of stuff you have the brakes. They have different restaurants and mossy duress. But you've got to have a difference. Lesson of restaurants at john candy test on the cab is not a state. I don't care what y'all say. Trust with mrs tasks on it old bay or meat tenderizer on it it is not a state. Do not call a state me calling a guy A fucking fox damn dogs. It's not a damn dog you don. I'm saying it's a. It's hey cabbie steve. Thanks for being with us too. I know some of the rhetoric that i can't stand i this before on that but over in his ear they cater to much. Different demographics are diverse graph. The people where it's not just brave joyce no of course. Y'all saying dasa. Would you have dogs. You know what i'm saying. You have place chinese places rehab job jamaican places to eat at different bistros on different stores. Like you said we can drop by. Minute's already was targeted at walmer. Big kroger you know. Farmer's market around here will nice movie theaters. You know you having clean. La fitness again. There's just so much different. Commerce that drives to the population of people over here versus care. Pre is just. You are one gas station nails on the tavern and friday. Just hanging out that nothing. Real bad i greg. I'm just i guess on his own negative. Do wait a minute now. What's prominent about camp creek. You gotta be kidding. Me shook from the motherfuckers against some people think it's prominent over there. You know. i think it's button to metal. Hey dan lows. Though there lows is a joke like every time we go in there and there's nobody to help you know with like me and marvan when they're like last week get some blinds or whatever for the house and There were these two workers they they looking laws everything they just walk past those ellen. You didn't ask looking for nothing. it's just horrible. I got nothing. You talk about customer service. If you value customer service i would not live over there like how in a place that winds off a customer service at retail and people walk in. Looks like something. The first thing that's proper etiquette and say. Hey you're looking for you know. how can i help. You know what i'm saying but no talking shit loud on the clock would take good white man's money man ou yang only law stake is the state whether it's cabbie jaw or whatever stake is state period also goes into red downing. I mean if. I'm over there. And i might be paying. What thousand and twelve hundred. Maybe for a one bedroom or whatever the case may be or for an apartment general over here you know you need a good fifteen hundred or more dollars so you know in the day there's gonna be more options more selection because overall parkway you're closer to things and there's more to do but i mean at the same time i the case of the people that can afford to live over there. That's not go deep. But i'll even then some of these areas. They charge money for our english. Works you you know primarily wooten. We're going to work on your mortgage. Was that place called ovalles. Grandpa parked there is nice areas by problem. Now there's some very arts and grandpa however this apartment complex over there check checked now. Four studio studio costs over there talking. Grandpa twenty one hundred for a studio. You tell me that. I'm gonna give to geez just for someone to walk in my dad powell's had the band count and smell everything i cook off saying you're paying you're paying for big ass open office for open office in the bathroom. Kitchen might be their preference. Don't man man fuck fuck. I just want to be able to close the door. If i'm sleeping. Would they may not have. I got privacy. At least at least honey's upriver to close the door on the budget but the thing about it though i mean but but okay the sacred to jeez. Our studio is christ but again. That's me talking cheer. Because that's the price down here and best. Of course i pay. We pay less than four fucking more for a four room house. You know what i'm saying so that's the mindset for a house. What am i getting afford their house gift while apartment and i get something one house or damn house right you still way more for random fucking house you got apartment like god damn house.

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Making It Legal: Tara's Queer Family Story

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Making It Legal: Tara's Queer Family Story

"Hello welcome back to iv f you today. I can't wait for you to meet the hilarious tara clancy she's a storyteller she's an author and she's a host of the famous moth radio hour which is a series of live storytelling events across the us and the world. Tara is also mother of two with one on the way and a bucket of surprises at every turn. We're gonna kick it all off at a live. Show the moth in portland oregon. Where you'll hear tara performing. Her story called lesbian baby. Making one one. She's giving herself a very unusual pep talk before trying to get pregnant. But let's just say there's no soft music or scented candles in this meditation. I'm walking around the park minute. I'm going let's go baby back skull pregnancy and the koch right and i actually go over to the mira and i look. I'm looking at myself in the mirror. And i start like puffing out my shirt and obviously i'm imagining myself pregnant but what i'm really doing is i'm imagining somebody else. Seeing me me pregnant right. And i'm imagining what they're going to think and what they're looking at what they're going to look at me and think so what i'm doing and i'm totally unaware of it in the moment is i'm going you talking to me. You talking to the pregnant lady you talking to me like other women they go home. They knit booties. I'm deniro in taxi driver anyway. Low tech seat so nice to see you too on the util- a nice to see you always nice to hear you as well. Your voice is a huge part of your persona as you have talked about many times and what you described there was the you were the member of your partnership that was physically medically. You were thirty two. It was just not likely that your wife at the time who was forty two is going to be able to carry the baby right second son right and the doctor gave you a night to go home and and really contemplate if you could pull this off and you describe it as like psyching yourself up for a varsity like a high school varsity basketball game. That was off ball of whatever what civilly would work husbands will know what i'm talking about. Like that was the only point of reference. I had to hype myself. What was his thing was like the thing that i would do before like the varsity championship. Nine scar what it was like the mall said right. Yeah like whatever. And you like pep rally in your apartment in front of your which. I'm doing it for pregnancy. You know like i was ready to walk are actually and So we met doing them off in the neon it was may twenty eighteen. I'm not sure about the fourth part. I don't think it was the fifth because at cinco de mayo and we might not remember if it had been singled two miles the fact that we remember it. i think it's my fourth So a little intro. I'm going to say what i think. And you're gonna correct me or elaborate so you have to kids you have one on the way breasts. Keep track of that. I think that okay you're gay. You have been married twice. I'm married a second time. Yes you are a writer. A bartender a live storyteller. I don't know if you're still a bartender. this is where your corrections. Maybe not bartender anyone you put that. I mean but i might heart. I will always be. I believe everyone should spend some time doing food or beverage service in their lifetime between. I'm born and raised the bar business. That's like a big thing on your website. So cold onto it from a third generation bartender. My mother and my grandma go so it's in your blood And and your published credits are in the new york times new york times magazine. The nation paris review daily. So some pretty fancy stuff there and a book. The clancy's of queens. Yeah i published a book. I've been autho your i want. That's right. I'm from new york so your accent is sort of like in my memory of my life but i i've never had that accent but it's very welcoming and familiar to me so i will. I won't get rid of it. You know people try to get rid of it. And i decided to not get rid of mine and i just can't you know i'd like it's just like why you know what would be boring if everybody got rid of their accents but i think he got me down yeah published a lotta shit and and i ride and i i'm a host of the more I've told a lot of stories of the moth and i host the main stage shows. Yes so that's how. I make you because you didn't i did. I did a mock main stage. It was intense is great so i wanted to start with that clip because this is called issue. So it's about all the different ways of getting pregnant trying to get pregnant sometimes not getting pregnant And all the emotions that go along with that hence the few part and so what. I love about that clip. Is your clearly showing us who you are what you look like how you present yourself how people interpret you when they you And the fact that you were going to be pregnant shocked the hell out of you but also kind of sent you into a bit of an identity. Swirl up for a while there. It sounds like so i was just curious. How do you describe yourself sort of personally and physically you. Are you glamorous. are you feminine or you butch. What's your angle on every now. i'm. I'm an definitely i like butch I like bush. Some of the young the queers. They don't like bush anymore. I like butch no but yeah so you know i. I'm a masculine presenting person. And you know. I wear a lot of soups. And i'm into my suits. I gotta coughlin collection. That should really. Wow that's your old school. I'm old school little squares collection and conflict collection. Also like from queens. Though i also have like you know a jordan collection either what. I don't have a collection of is address. I have any dresses. Do you know why should you. I don't have any. They don't look good and presenting person. The idea you know of of being pregnant was everyone was shocked that i was even really were willing to do it. And i know you use the word butch but you present as a woman. I mean i don't look at you and think that you're a man may be people do i don't know but but are you as she heard you feel. Yeah i do which you know but at the same time i didn't define it of that didn't know where you more masculine as a kid you. Did you ever think of having kids when you were kid. You know i did. I did think of having kids. I didn't think about the fact that i might be expected to carry this. Yeah no but so knowing that you were gay. Knowing that like medically you wouldn't be able to have a kid in a hetero normative relationship. How did that desire to have a kid. How did you imagine that. I don't think. I thought it at farts. I really didn't then i kinda put it to bed and it was like a wacko fucking crazy. Bartending rock and roll not job. You know. I never thought that i would be pregnant But yeah you know. When when my former wife and i decided to have kids she was wanted to pray more than anything. You know so she. We went right into that fertility clinic and it's different it's different for queers because you're there giggling and like making out in the waiting room and all happy shit right right like a date eilly right. It's like a day there's nothing there's nothing quote unquote wrong with. You know like you in fact you're happy because you probably tapped into your 401k. Whatever you get the money we did it. We got the money. We got credit cards. You know whatever it is. You made the money happening. Is there giggling. And make an hour. And i remember all these poor straight people. You know who who it was we would always accomplish. Maybe mission be so happy while we're in here we feel bad and the guys will like you know the guys would be looking down and everyone knew that he was about to go in that little room jack off and everyone knew yeah. I don't know if you remember this from french. Backed off and it didn't work and then everyone knew that which is every year. Yeah yeah that's so interesting for the straight couples. There were like at the end of our rope like this is the beginning of the first period of our entire lives. And for you guys. It's like a honeymoon like we're gonna make a baby. He quit for a million reasons and we have the league goal. Like right know my first son. My son my oldest son is going to be eleven this year. We were in the process of making him. We couldn't be legally married in this country. We were really concerned about you. Know what my ability to be named on his birth certificate so those were our problems right we could be. There could stop us at the door lesbians out right right right allowed. You got your twenty grand. you're in. that's true. Sister different such different. Yeah so how did you meet. Shawna your first wife at my family bar. Oh so you're just picking our tender. Yes i would i you know when i turn twenty. My mom was there. I grew up there my whole life. The i was twenty one. I started working at the bar. And then and john work there. And so that's how we met. And we were like the only two as begins in this pretty rough. Blue-collar dive bar yeah. It was abundant family. And so that. Was you know that was enough because like i was in bonding happened right there. So yes i mean. We're not talking about a story here. Lacking rod channel rod channel on channel. Yeah but i think you're right. I always say that the people people in queens and they think a story. I said no no. I'm from the archie bunker section. Yes yes and that it makes just like gay actors living in historian under group of view. There yeah exactly and then were. You surprised when she wanted a baby. When did you guys talk about having a baby. No we ride away in fact we you know we we were married into doesn't seven we tried. Was it a domestic partnership or were you asked to. We did the ceremony the whole because we feel we're married on then start we did are you is so we bought a whole bunch of sperm from california. Cry abang marang. We're gonna do the wise because she was when we started she was thirty seven. Okay i was twenty seven ten years old and so we didn't think you know thirty seven or i might be okay. Went in there like up. Everything was fine. You can do is and we did three or four of them and it's at work. The spunk is so expensive. Yeah it is and it's to a pop fry you is and so we got expensive big and she was pretty dejected. Because she was like. I didn't think we'd have any trouble so we took a year off. She learning that her age mattered at that point. Had she kind of known that her age. 'cause i didn't know age batter. She didn't know she didn't and and then we would like these crazy people that went around telling everyone what a terrible thing if you invited to a party. Like how old are you. Are you thirty. Six baby right now is wrong with you. Listen this might be over for you. People like we're never inviting you anymore. Yeah yeah yeah because it what right. It's shocking that first time at. Yeah so many especially in your thirties. People saw forty for some reason that was me. But you know your thirties. It should fine and you go in there and like thirty five man. that's the cliffs like. Either you're luckier. you're not rule. Like whoa how i know. It's crazy so she didn't work. Work just really dejected. Took a break chance of work stuff going on for a year and then you know she's like all right. Let's do it again. And again and edited work fourth time and then we were allowed down to our last two vials in i league said to her i really wanted to try one more time and She was like all right and worked. So my first point son was now. Yes yes i mean and you know. Interestingly my first wife and i got married before marriage was legal in new york before marriage was legal. Federally for sure. It was only once she was six months pregnant with my first son that we could which was funny. We're like a shotgun wedding bright. We had to literally go to the ford. How are with this huge belly because it was finally legal in new york so it became legal while she was pregnant with your but this was what was crazy. It became the quickest thing that then governor paterson of new york could do where i was to say. New york will start recognizing marriages from other jurisdictions. He couldn't just very quickly say now. You can walk down to the courthouse because that has to go through legal process but what he could say was if you are married elsewhere be that canada be that massachusetts right which was the very first one of the first states. Were at the time connecticut which was ahead of everybody who knew you could get married. There and new york would recognize it so we had to drive with are six months pregnant for two hours to connecticut on my gosh she got married to come back to new york. So that might mean would be on his birth certificate. If we not married my name would not have been on his birth certificate at birth. We would have had mended afterward. I always. We did a lot of hoops. And i think it's interesting. Here's an interesting fact that that puts in perspective at first points on who will be eleven. This summer was probably one of the first hundred children. Ever in new york who had two women listed on his bursar now at brand new. Yeah i had to go to the hospitals. Do you have the new form. That doesn't say mother. Father that says slash parent one slash parent to right and they were like. Yeah we look. We just got the big great. Because i just do like tomorrow so we could all this like everything was like right right at the. Wow nailbiter all of the You know we when we got together marriage. You wanna kiss. I was like okay. You know like all right now. How do we do this. And we were the first of all of our friends and it was. Because i had she was ten years older than me. There wasn't a lot of there wasn't a lot of info will Ago and there wasn't a lot of people so this my son was everyone's accused the first he was the first of our group. Wow tell you how many people came to my house. That i never met before and we spend two or three hours with them teaching them. What was i via. What was i what what like. They were starting from nothing right when a woman love each other right a little more complicated when it's two birds and there's no be. Yeah well it's interesting to me too because even at that time you had you know. Melissa ethridge you had rosie o'donnell i mean you had these lesbian superstars that were having kids but maybe it just seemed like this attainable. Yeah if you have a billion dollars you by david crosby you just do whatever. Yeah so i think probably at the much more ground level. People couldn't envision how they were gonna pull that off. Yeah i mean. I wonder when we finally get some real numbers to see the uptick. That happens at about eleven or twelve years ago. Because you know like now. It's just so much more. Every person i noticed that a kid you know saying it's not a big deal. No one needs to call me and come over and like buy dinner instead across the who. I've never met you know. Get that information from anywhere. But i yeah we counsel job so many people and people were unabashed. 'cause they wanted it so bad right when she was pregnant with my first son. She walked around with that belly. People were i mean. Sometimes it was rude. Sometimes it was kind but people will just ask us. How did you do that. I got i keep you kind of forget that even eleven years ago that this was we were pioneering something. It was something new and absolutely. It's funny most of the gay couples that i'm friends with that have kids. The kids are all yet. They're like four to eight years old he they always accused targeted. And now you can't stop me. Meet a woman i'm like. Do you wanna be happening so ray. It took us a few tries. At essentially it was i wi with harry quite a different story as we heard a bit in that clip. So you know you tell it obviously in a very funny and entertaining way but but how did that go. What were the emotions behind that really when you first fa. You found out that you were going to have to carry that baby which seems to go against your entire identity of of your And then when you found out you couldn't carry the bay. So what what was that like the irony. I mean in some ways not right it was like of course i can't. We look at least something makes sense. Looked at me of course or something you know like and you facility. Problem bicep to him. I look for twenty problems called being lesbian. What am i paying you four. And he did not laugh and he's like no no. You have a another one. That was like it wasn't the end of the world. Now people who know more about the stuff right. it's i barley statistical variance in jail. Yeah like and there's still misunderstood there's like cnbc. Oh ass like but you can also have it under different circuits. But he knows your rate of miscarriages higher. You're you're you're the difficulty in getting pregnant we're gonna have to do. Iv instead of you know our ui for shore and we go for the ibs. And i had my retrieval and i produced thirty. Six eggs was not good. Oh really it's good in one regard right. Add that it will maybe kill you Is is one of the side effects for people with polycystic. Ovarian syndrome is that you will just have like this massive now of aids. Which really like it can. It's really it's the one percent like fatal. Wow yes so what happens is your body. Thinks it's pregnant with thirty six babies and build up this fluid and the fluid sits on your can actually affect your breathing. Goodness it was like the next day after retrieval in those coming days i looked like i was six months pregnant in twenty four hours but it was all fluid. Fluid sits on your own. So it's like an emergency Was it was pretty bad. So i nearly died then. I didn't deny i'm still here at the end of that story But i'm glad that's the end of that story. That's okay so it took about a month recovering like now. You can't go forward. You've done your your retrieval. You can't they can't like implanted in dodgers like wait a minute. Here's what sean carried. This and i know it now. That seems very. That's a very common thing in the clear community for one cup one person to donate to another prison but the time he had never suggested that before again another. I you know whatever. No-one had mentioned it to him. As a as a wanted. But it it really would be ideal. And i jumped through the ceiling. Like saved by the bell. I was like i mean. It's almost the best of both worlds. Because you pass epic material right. And i was like your she is you know take. How do it must have been thrilled to. Yes you was because she loved being pregnant and she was happy to do it again. And it was just horr- eggs that were you know. Kind of like on the france Yeah and then. I couldn't honestly for me and that's you know it's a job in the story but it is true. It was a big release. Yeah it's so interesting because part of the emotional struggle in. Ivf is you feel like you're failing as a woman because you feel like this is one of your jobs. You know your coast to be able to carry a child and so when you find out that you can't or you're struggling. You hit these very hard walls of will am. I broken my defective. And my and know the effect that it's had on other women particularly you know women who who like you say like have so much stock in that ability to be pregnant themselves or and not even just to be a mother but to be pregnant right right right and i didn't. I didn't have any of that. Well and i think it's a very positive message because really what you're saying. Is i am tara clancy whether i carry child weather don't carry. I'm still the person that i am. And i think that that's the same message for someone who does want to carry a child if they can't or they're running into trouble. I think it's important to hold onto the fact that you are still you. You are still a fully realized you whether you can carry a baby or not does not affect who you are what you are defined by you know you may affect your identity. If you've always seen yourself as a pregnant person. I guess but it doesn't make you broke in. It doesn't mean that you're you know you're defective. It just means here's things you can do. And here's something that's not really working. You know so anyway. I just think that's interested in la wildly act or the being of pregnant doesn't affect you know. I also do notice that. I have a. I have a biological clock and a drive to have children. You know like i. I had that drive then. And i had that. That was what the drive was. When i was like i would do this if forced to you know if yours but because i really do want the child and then now if you flash forward to now when i'm forty and reburied and My wife now had didn't have joe's met but one of them and that was only i eight question to me. Sean i know you this kids on. I'm in. I'm cool with being a step fair and having children in my life but i need to know would you have another one. Because that's where i'm at. And i felt this drive across the to field. I want another baby and i was like. Oh i'm forgetting that. Have the same biological clock right. I am there. Is this part of my body. That's going you're at the end click. Click like you're at the end. Make another one right and i. It's surprised this shit out of me. Yeah i didn't expect that assume that those things are tied together biological clock. The need the timing is part of the physical need to be pregnant. But for you it wasn't it was wanting to be a mom again. Want api yeah and it was but it was intense and have sounds like oh. I think this is a little bit where this is a little bit more. This is a little evolutionary right. This is a little coming from the part of me that knows at the end of this clock and like so. That's why i want to do it. And saying yeah like the remnants of a previous time of human development. Yeah exactly. I just have to pause for one second because i need to tell you about this podcast that i'm a little bit obsessed with you will be obsessed with two. It's called if these over could talk. You may have heard of it if you've heard episode of this season of ivf you. Because i had the hosts on for a fantastic interview. And it's a podcast where two lesbians chat about making babies and non traditional families and what it's like to live than lgbtq family in a world built for the straits but let me tell you something. I am one of the straits. And i feel so in tune with this podcast. And it's so relatable because anyone that's ever felt like an outsider and had to fight for normalcy and acceptance will relate to this podcast is hosted by my new best friends. Jamie kelton and robin hopkins. They are hysterical and totally down to earth and they go in-depth every week with guests about their hopes fears setbacks. The whole mission of this is to normalize elevate and celebrate non traditional families well also confirming that. They're just like other parents like yelling at their kids because they don't have their shoes on and they're twenty five minutes late for school so check out episode one of iv f you this season to learn more and check out if these over is could talk. I just can't say enough. Good things about it about robin jamie and find out more at ovaries talk dot com. We were on my second long right. That's today right right all right and the only glitch that we had which may be on the ivf podcast. We can talk about a little bit because people people get it was that they could not figure out how to bill it. They tried to bill us up. As if i was for egg donor. We would by then legally married on my fertility clinic. I will give them credit for this call them and went to bat and they were like these are married couple. This specimen belongs to them. Both one can't donate it to the upper right because this is what makes different. Maybe they had two women before something they never had ones that were legally married in the state of new york which meant that they were like okay. You know you did one half of ninety s and now she's going to do the other half now in essence. It's the same amount of money not to ivf's via that was split between two people. Right i separate. How about this. We were the first couple ever get a health insurance company major health insurance company to cover it wild. You guys are real trailblazers. Yeah even saying in the end the the health insurance covers it. it's amazing she gets pregnant and her pregnancy is just like totally fine. It weren't her. Ivf was you know my embryo work. The first time from the birth itself was exciting. Well that's my next audio clip. That have queued up here. Tara yes all right. Let's take a listen. I get a wheelchair. And i will it over to her and put her into the wheelchair and i go flying up the hospital into the maternity ward triage area. It's like the waiting area right. And i push her in there and i take one look at the reception. Isn't there and like. I do not have time to sign any paperwork. You just gotta point me right now to and in the time it has taken me to say that one sentence into turn away from my wife when i turned back. She's up out of the wheelchair. She's got one hand on each of the armrest. Her legs are spread. Harsh shirt is apart around down this p. There's bud like a loved the so yeah. So what was that birth heightened for patrick factor. Was that pretty much. Oh really wasn't laughing at the time. Or jeff no no. Yeah so she pretty much almost had this game in the cab on the way there. Her water broke at like two in the morning or something And he was born in hour and ten minutes later. Oh my gosh what she. I was asleep at two. Am and i had a second kid at like three thirty. Well you're lucky was at two. Am because if it had been two pm you would have gotten stuck on the van where we were like a million times that would never and because the cab driver had to go through the lights. Wow it was bonkers bonkers. He was he was so so fast. So that was crazy and then even more crazy so my son was born on june twenty fifth second son june twenty fifth two thousand thirteen june twenty six the very next day so i was still not the in the hospital. Gay marriage was legal Like officially federally. Oh my gosh at is that that's the one of the historic court dates towards the journey. But it was one of the biggest ones and so it was on every tv. Our whole maternity ward every tv. And then everyone was like looking at us. Like cynic women and like you know. Oh congratulate out so it was like two celebrations at once. It was to celebration but it meant like you know you're coming home to a more safe. World azure my second kim. And you're coming home and there's more protections for our family for you you know. It was like details huge. Yeah right oh wow okay so so next. I just want to talk a little bit about divorce. All the happy conversations so when did you guys get divorced or let me say this. How old were your children when you guys were getting divorced Awesome good question. Okay my sons were like. Three and sex voice ended the ivf contributed to that at all. Oh that's an interesting. Because you know i i. Don't you know. listen. I would never discount the fact that when so much of your relationship is fighting your government fighting society to recognize you fighting to me pregnant to have babies. Have your marriage recognized So much of it is that it takes a toll on. I would say that queer people everywhere you know like we that is that. Is that something that we just have to deal with and you can get lost. You're so busy fighting that when you have nothing left to fight for Who who are you know like what's our relationship was built on making on friday right. That's when you get to you know this would have been. Let's say two thousand seventeen. And when i divorced and you know things are hunky dory. I had a book published and and she was had climbed the ladder. We had two kids or marriage was completely fully goals. And your life is nothing new fighting All the struggles were caught. And what you know. So i wouldn't discount that but i wouldn't say also ice say there was other things So it was. It was certainly not that. But i wouldn't miss. I think that the toll. It's interesting too. 'cause as you said you guys met as the only lesbians in a blue collar queens bars almost met on a battlefield zach loss against the world and us against bold collar people who went on to you know but we are so. We're good friends and we get along. We co parent really well and my my wife Awesome and now. Let's come to more present day so your second wife chloe right. How did you guys meet. Oh my god it's so much fun So i when i got to when we separated ex and i i had missed because i was with for thirteen years. I had completely missed online dating. I i've heard of it yet. Every comedy show but you know all the jokes and all the things. But i had never actually seen tinder like. I didn't know why it looked. Like i was like i'm going to go into gender because it's going to be so terrible because that's what everybody tells me and that's all jokes her in every show or say that it's the worst thing in the world and i can't wait. I'm going to get so much material at it. And and i go set up the tinder. I didn't even know what it looked like. So i just put one picture and one line. Because i just wanted to be able to flip through You in order to look through people's provides you have to have a profile iran in go on and like window shop without putting yourself in the window so your sentence writer dancer native new yorker. I i was like okay here. That's it and let me. Just scroll through one now. I have to ask you said your profile says dancer. Yes roughs dance. Oh okay that's fantastic. I make sure i know. I know people find surprising. But i'm like really into dancing. I hear sort of your a petite person. I mean. I could see their answer. Yeah yeah. I love ballet and but also just like all kinds dancing. Oh very nice all the time. fantastic is so. I started the big drew and swiping left right. And i see this woman and I was like wow crepes is amazing. And a reader profile. It's obvious she was a model and the woodwork of for and then in it says in her profile that she's a civil rights attorney. Wow and an ivy league educated. When i figure when i get to the bottom of the profile at that so i'm like okay. This is obviously bullshit right. This is obviously a plumber from the brown. Who's gonna choke me to kill us that obviously like some serial killers. I go past and i can't wait i'm gonna get such great material out of it but i'll you know i'll make sure i got like you know i'm in a public place like you know your men. Yeah right right. And i'm like great so i like i we match and i'm like yeah. Of course i plummer from the bronx. You know waiting. Kill me and i go out and you know in walks a model who is an ivy league. Ah attorney and that is my wife's. That's amazing. i unlike its biggest. The world's biggest asshole because that's not supposed to happen on meet a great person. Just posed him need a sociopathic. You know plummeted plummer from the bronx who masquerades as a machete in their backpack right. Yes and so i and i. We've not you know sheeting even was ready to come. She's like you know. I've been like looking in dating for like a year and you're stupid idiot. Ask shows up in five minutes and needs me. Lucky you so But any amazing was that and then who wanted kids. I definitely her. i wouldn't say i was. You know now you know what i wrote in the profile would just writer dancer native new yorker you notice. I didn't put in their parents. Because i didn't know that i wanted to put that much information. I didn't know how much information people put. I didn't know that mattered. Because i was like. I'm not looking to get in a relationship. I'm chris chernoff fool around him just got divorced you know and so i when i on. That first aid told her that i had two kids. She was definitely surprised. You know because. I was one queer and having been queer and having two kids at the age of thirty six. New york was rare right. You know she was surprised it was like what are you meeting of. Duke is aged. Three and six people had one baby by train. You know and so she was surprised but we had really great date and so she said to me well. Do you want a third child now isolate. I'm pro you know just fund. Yes and she's got that first paradigm parent energy. So i have to. You know right. That's true really cool so thrilled and excited. And i'm real and the kids are like crazy. Say howard how to rain. Harry feel about all my god they're bonkers bunkers. I like they freaked out. Because harry is finally get to be a big brother and he would have it so excited in that. How many months khloe. She is very new. She didn't want. I didn't work which You know sucked But one thing that was fun of she had the first one doesn't work. She's really depressed about it but she was like all right. Let's do it again. I was like all right. Let's let's do it. And she goes through the whole thing. Got away those. That i those days take the pregnancy tests in i was in the middle of zoom like live. And you know. I couldn't get out. And so she just pokes her head over by by computer. Screen goes well. I'm not pregnant. And i see her go over to the garbage can grow in g. tasks now. Obviously you're supposed to wait for the blood test to so i go over to the garbage crew throws out every woman i've ever known in this process leaves them out right and then like marks them right behind with date so i go and take it out of the garbage and i'm like what is she talking about. Its positive you're kidding. I'm not she. Just read it. Ron or did it take too long to develop or took a second and she didn't understand really that like she's not taken some back at other times in life when you've got that strong reading because you were like a month later your brand whatever whatever i was like. Connie this is ivy f- land okay. There is a hint hint. We have right right. You have hope because that just because this is so so early but he didn't quite get it so she didn't sound like we what that's how we found out. The poor thing ran out to the store. She bought a hundred more back and i showed her. How you label the stick so that you could see that it gets a little darker like every day. But it's so fucking slight right variety apps and then lo and behold went in you know whatever four days later blood work and they were like. You're very pregnant. Dasa what was that moment. Like when you got that sort of official declaration from the doctor it was. It was great. I was great. I mean i she. She'd started to celebrate by like the fifth pregnancy test. He's pretty much. Do rag read jewish. I think you know it was just. It's it's such a thrill. This is so exciting. Forbid about ray. And harry and i'm gonna play one more clip here my firstborn son my firstborn son is named ray ray clancy he will punch you in the nuts second guy. We named him. Harry harry glancy. We will sell you a used honda. I just love clips so much. So i do but i do want to ask him about an harry. What what are they like. Are they artistic. Are they writers. Are they performers. Do the dance con el me. I mean they are. They're very day are very different. They have the same donor but they have. They have different You know they have different. Weather's is ranked punch people in the not. Sir was not funny. He is a ray of sunshine. He is that's what his teachers like sweetest. Kind person i've ever met and i'm not even being asked what is the most empathetic childlike. I've known and But harry's tough one. Oh that's so funny. Of course yes thanks. So he's he's chatty he's funny And how do you explain it to them and do they know. They're both from a donor and i mean. Do they ask those kinds of questions. Yes they do. Yes yes everything. I mean benefits. It's there's some fun with that to my kids. Understand everything about that. Because like here by i maybe meaning my son my firstborn son was your a big your son's age to go play ground and he's playing with the little girl and the little girl says jim ways you know something about your mom. Here's your dad here. And he's like wow. I only have two moms. She's like a can of trump's and he's like well. I do so you can. And they like to like little little. He's too little to get it and she may be was like four. Five hundred comes over to me. And she's like. I told him that you need a man and a woman to make baby and i'm like well you know what you're not half wrong right. I was like you know you. You know. I said. But i can't explain to you you know you need to. Sme appearance about this but so they had to know very young. We're sperm comes from and where eggs come from the many ways in which they can come together they can tell you they school the shit outta people when they and they ask and it was never presented as a negative. We right just like yours is yours. That were also just always saying like anybody like for us we would say it's not just queer families that need to go for fertility. Lots of people going. Here's why families are made in a million different ways. You know ryan bet. They get that they would say. Oh no whether you're kind of right but you need sperm and you need an aide to make a baby right. They can like walk it through phasing. Yeah that's fantastic. And then what's next for tara clancey. I think the the new baby is a project for now. Then i have a whole other like change life. Change thing going on where. I decided that. I want to be a nurse. So wow you know. I've been very lucky. I've made my living in artists for you. Know a lot of years now And that's been great but it's also been a really self-focused literally. My work is writing about myself talking about myself. Either writing were talking but always about myself. You know like. I like. I'm too much i'm done. I've been a volunteer for fifteen years working with the Lgbt elderly all. Wow most of who did not have the chance to have children. I do and are therefore vary alone. There are really really vulnerable demographic and i love it like when you love so much do for free. Yeah it's a good litmus test. And i was like why don't i just. Why don't i do this. Why does this become more of the focus of what they do and i was like. This is what i wanna do. So i am in the middle nursing school which is really intense. Wow yeah well. I end everything this way. Is there anything else you'd like to add. No no good. i'm good. This exists in. Not that i didn't like having people in my living room asking me questions about it that i didn't know you know i'm not kidding us. I am going to came to us. That i don't know at all. I would get a call. That was literally like my cousin. New jersey would say there's a lady in my office. She's a lesbian. She wants kids. I told her about you. She said she'd do anything if you would talk to her. I'd get this call from someone. I'd never met me. Sean would say come to our house when people ask who want kids are thinking about it and they'll say you know we want you to summit up real quick say. Do you know that feeling when you just fallen in love with someone will like crazy in love. It's like that But forever gets almost intense. Like you know what i think. You told me that when we went to dinner before. I think so because so that was may twenty eighteen so we had. We had our eggs frozen from the donor and we had our surrogate lined up. And i might have been sitting next to you. But i think people started kind of mentioning their kids and stuff and i was just used to always being the odd man out because i struggled for eight years to have a kid and it always failed and i was like. Oh here comes the kid thing again but i actually had something to say. Which is we have the eggs. We have now i remember. You said it's like that new love but it's forever an outsider. Wow you know. And it's true i feel it. I really do so at easing way of explaining it so right. I'm i'm glad you feel that. I didn't think i was. I was crazy. But i you know i know that's an intense thing to save people who wanted but i hope it just makes people keep trying you know like i know i've been through a lot of up. Oh my god a million you know tries and fails in a lotta money in amount of money. I remember when i first sold a book. The neighborhood. I made some money and people said to me queens people. What's going to be a status. Symbol thing you're going to get a car. You're going to get a role. Lax right house like motherfucker. I walk into a room holding my kids hand as a lesbian right. That's sixty grand walken guy. My status symbol right right. He's like that is it. And i won't people to be more honest about that. Yes it's worth it. I know no. I'm ready to another little one. I'm ready sam. I'm ready to do this. Do you have a name picked out. I think so i. I know it's not. I like gum disease desma. That's an awesome name. I think it's a good one. That's a really good name desmond child or like fuck. He could go to to to to as low as says. That was one of my. Yeah that's awesome beautiful. Well i look forward to the arrival of desi all right. I'm sure you do too. Well thank you again. I really appreciate it. I'm so happy you could be part of this. All right. sam take any awesome. Talk to you sue. Thanks for hanging out with knee and tara. her live. Performance excerpts were recorded in portland oregon as part of the moth and to hear more of tara and performances by other amazing storytellers. Visit the moth dot org. You can also find tears. Memoir the clancy's of queens at amazon other fine booksellers and i hope you're sending in your questions for therapists savannah's stanfield. You can ask her anything as long as you get it in by november eleventh. Send them to ivy. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Melissa Etheridge (01-21-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Melissa Etheridge (01-21-19)

"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week, log this is firefighter Raphael Pori yet for firehouse subs. Introducing the new spicy Cajun chicken sub Cajun seasons grilled chicken, breast zesty cherry peppers and housemaid Cajun mayo just five fifty five for medium. Remember a portion of every sub you buy cups provide life safety equipment for personal sponsors firehouse subs. Enjoy more subs. Save more lives. Limited time only. Plus tax participating locations by ourselves with. Tony the minimum of one million dollars in two thousand nineteen thousand firehouse subs public safety foundation by donating point one one percent of every purchase. Broadcasting from the Mercedes, man cake. Here's Dan Patrick. Oh, still hyped up after yesterday and last night over there. Talking to the boys were a man down for its he's not with us today. But mclovin says he will come up with mock headlines from weekend's action, we'll talk to the saints reporter, Mike triple a little bit later on and Melissa Ethridge singer-songwriter chief's fan. She was there performing the anthem at Arrowhead. We'll talk to her about her chiefs going down in flames and dramatic fashion last night. It's best and worst of the weekend. As we always do every Monday. So your phone calls coming up eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Mclovin. Did we settle on a poll question for the first hour? Yeah. I put up per fans requests should pass interference be review -able right now early results over seventy percent say yes, I just don't know when you do it like how much time left on the clock or do you just say to a head coach because I don't I don't want everything to be. We reviewed we we review it because we have the opportunity to do it. But I need a flow to the game there. Now, this isn't, hey, what about the human element? If you have the opportunity to clean up, the messes of the human element. Then you would wanna do that. If I said to the NFL, you could clean that up, and you could have done it in real time where somebody at the home office of the NFL, let's say the head of officials our river on had the opportunity to talk to the head of fischel and say you guys need a huddle up. You miss that? Wouldn't you want that shouldn't the league do that? Did that happen yesterday because I do believe although I have no confirmation on this that the head of officials is able to push the button call to talk back and you're able to talk to the official on the field. Just to let them know. Hey, by the way. Show a replay looks like the defensive backs a little handsy there. Hey saw couple plays. Look like, you guys may have missed a holding. Hey that really wasn't a roughing the passer call on braiding. But that's where the official the head of fischel could do that in. Maybe it's just playoff games. But that official the head of officials should be able to talk to the official on the field to help him out because I do believe at least one official will be fired because of that because of that miscall. Yup. Oh, here's a couple of things. I don't understand. If you want pass interference to be replaceable. Would you does that mean if there's no call someone could just yell out replay check that guy was interfered on because I see you're saying let's say there's a flag thrown on the play. You can pick it up with replay. Can you throw a flag with replay like yesterday if there was replay involved on pass interference that play late in the game with the saints? Would they have gone to the booth said? Yep. We looked at that play. How many times a game? Can you do that? Because there is hand holding on jostling on every pass play. But if I'm going to review a Colle where HOGAN made a catch didn't make a catch. I'm going to challenge that there's there's a no call no flag. Then I would think in the last two minutes of the first half and second half. If you have a challenge flag you can challenge. Whatever you want to challenge. The hard part is going to be can you challenge holding? I couldn't you say look he got held defensive linemen got held. I can I look at that. Wouldn't you just throw that challenge flag? Every time rob gronkowski is targeted than his essentially held on every single play. All right. You got your patriots in the Super Bowl ease up there? Now, I'm just going with the discussion. Okay. I thought the patriots are going to be terrible this year. I've I can't say anything. Yes. Did you notice how many people were upset about the current NFL overtime system after the patriots you players on the patriots? Who didn't know if they can we win. I think one of the mccourty brothers said if we score touchdown to win. So they're not even sure about this. And I know that you want Patrick Mahomes to get a chance, but this is could have gone the other way, it's all in the coin toss there. And plus how about you stop Brady, you know, you had him third in ten three times, and he completed him he converted. So I don't wanna hear all overtime rule. Don't get to overtime. And if you get to overtime don't get Brady the ball. Hello. Yes. He said he just does seem silly that the whole thing really came down to a coin flip because there's no way that the chiefs weren't going to score there. If they if the chiefs had won the coin flip in overtime. They would have won the game. But so do you just do it? Where like you just keep playing until you stop scoring. I mean should the chiefs have gotten a chance to tie the game. Well, it used to be called sudden death overtime. Okay. So we take the sudden and the death out of back the data. Let's bring back all death over Dallas. Analogy. It's not sudden death overtime anymore. Life expiration moment. I would prefer whoever scores. First, no matter. How you score you win it sudden death. I don't need. They kicked a field goal. Now. You get an opportunity. I'd sudden death overtime. If you get to overtime. It is a coin toss. But if I'm gonna get to overtime, and I lose the coin toss and I'm going against Tom Brady. I get whatever happens. I deserve my fate there. Yes. It does saving like more people hated that overtime. Than they did in Rams saints. Nobody was complaining about the whole system in that one reason I haven't heard any NFL boy, I hate this. This is garbage breeze should have one. Oh, eight hockey's greatest show men will go head to head the heart of Silicon Valley for the twenty nine thousand nine Honda NHL all star weekend. Friday at nine thirty eastern on NBC s in skills competition Saturday at eight face off for some three on three action on NBC. I so we got a poll question or are. We staying with the poll question. Mclovin. Yellow safer with it for a little bit just to get a consensus. I think people are really want this call and pass interference. Paulie suggested this the NFL should spend the offseason expanding calls that are replaceable. Eliminating all replay, go one way or the other. I just I want to hear from the bright minds on the competition committee or whoever it is who or maybe the officials like how do we help you do your job better? Okay. That's what I would want to know. I would want to get the officials together they head of officials and say, how do we how do we help you do your job better? And it might be, hey, it'd be nice to have somebody there at the home office. Who's able to give us a heads up on big plays in the playoffs or controversial plays plays in the final two minutes because that play was so bad right in front of a fish oil, and you could call three different penalties pass interference helmet to helmet defenseless receiver. And you went over three. You took the whiff. And I do think it's going to cost somebody their job. I do. All right. Phone calls coming up, by the way. Fritzy's. Not here. I don't know if Richie is sick or not. But for the initial reports were fritzy was under the weather. I think stomach bug and fritzy's text messages are really lengthy normally, and it's very detailed, and they're they have no punctuation in them. So it's all one run on sentence. And so he says hey woke up a stomach bug. Bubba. Bubba Bubba, blah. You know sheet of ice can't get the Karaj door open, and I went, and then I thought what was the garage door was in part of his body part. Like, I can't get the garage door open. So I didn't even know he was sick. He was going to sick out. And then I understand if you got the flu a two days had it. But then he went out to the garage and said, he couldn't get the garage door open. It was frozen. We don't know that he went out to the garage door. Okay. His wife did. Okay. So fritzy's out. Mclovin. Wants to do mock headlines. Yep. Headlines on the bad call now, this is going to make this is going to hurt. Fritzy, a little bit more that you're doing mock headlines on a day that he is sick. And he couldn't get the garage door open. They might be pretty bad that might make it feel better. Okay. You got some music here for mock headlines for McCollum. Whoa. Okay. Here we go mock headlines in honor of my fallen comrade here top Fritz? Okay. This all the bad call. Okay. Nickel fo b Coleman instead of Roby fo-. Lak- fraud Lega Tron, Greg, look the leg. Great balls of liar. Tommy Lee robbed Tommy Lee. Yeah. Truly and Etel man that was a bad call man that was bad call this goes on. No, this is a bad call that I've allowed you to do market. You've actually made fritzy Brandon. Where's the home cooks in Brandon wears home? So it's not good either. Akib police none. That's not good either taking these trae quandary Smith. What are we going to do about these officiant? That's not good either. Mark robber baron. That doesn't really no that's not good either. Why the Hecker didn't they call that? Johnny hecker. Dominic and let's sue the NFL. This is the last one on the list. Drew's got fleas. I wrote that down. I don't know what it means. But it seemed to work for me, drew. Drew's got fleas. Instead of drew Brees yet. I got it. I didn't want it. But I got it lak- fraud. Like, fritzy's Oregon man, I actually miss fritzy rape balls liar. Tommy Lee got robbed that one. I was pretty proud of Tommy Lee, I thought endemic, and let's sue the NFL one was was probably your strongest. All right. Thanks, mclovin ally. Something Rotten's, apple none. That's not good either. Not good here. I thought that Todd skip today because of the New Orleans times picayune, the headline is wrapping unbelievable. And I thought Todd saw that news just like, you know, what stomach bug? I'm not coming into this heat tap out. Don't even try to compete. Yeah. That's a good headline reading unbelievable. Yeah. Strong fill in Idaho. Hey, Phil lead us off this our best and worst to the weekend. Good morning, dad and boys and Pearl. Do us a favor stick to your job. I just I just call it in regards to you the best the worst the weekend is it was really the best. And I really agree with what you said this morning is we just saw two incredible game and just to really enjoy it. Also, the one of the stat lines were just incredible that both row teams one and just the and on top of that the overtime, and how was wanting overtime, and what you guys have been talking as well, as you know, everything would have been done perfectly and everybody did their jobs. They would've won the game. And we can't go around to planning about one shot or this shot at they didn't make it or not make it. But one last thing I was gonna throw was a couple years ago. Bella Chac was one to throw a flag. And I can't remember what the actual item was. I think it was an item similar to this. And now I want and the coach didn't want. To do it. So I wonder now when they coaches meet again this year, if they're gonna re look at that and say that might be a good idea. All right. Well, thank you Phil thanks for the phone call. I I wanna know what officials do when they get together. And they talk about you know, if let's say the head of officiating loses his job now river. You bring somebody else in do you bring, you know, dean blandino back, and he has that job. Again. I would want to ensure. You know that we're going to get the call, right? If we have the technology to get it. Right. Let's get it. Right. But how that play in New Orleans where none of the other ficials said anything thought anything like, hey, look like helmet-to-helmet, by the way, and Chris Collins worth Jonas. I said, you know, what I think because the wide receiver gets up and is not as apoplectic as we were watching the official may not have read as much into it as he should of. Yes. Mclovin. Is it helmet to helmet? A real time on the field hard to see I find I think in real speed you've been on the field. Like, I was like every shots at home with. And I wonder if you can hear it now. I know it's it's really loud there. But if my job is to be five or ten feet away from play. I'm gonna hear helmet to helmet. Yes. I think what what Nicole Roby Coburn said about the play where he said like he's like low key the official told me it was tip. Yeah. Maybe there's just really some truth to that. Maybe the official based on his angle thought that the ball was tipped somehow. You know, I mean the ball is pretty far away. So I don't necessarily understand how that's possible. But maybe maybe there's some something more to that. But if it was tipped doesn't he explain to Sean Payton? Hey, the official came over and said, you know, it was tipped which the official didn't. And if it's if the ball is chipped, and maybe mclovin you can find this out. If I if I have a player who tips the ball, but I have helmet to helmet. Just because the ball is tipped doesn't mean. I can use my helmet. I got imagine. You're right. There's no there's no way that takes that away. I'll ask. But you're you're absolutely right. You know, it was funny, by the way, they're pointing out Sam shields fake. Punt play. You're allowed to blow up that guy because it's a punt new. He should have done that Woody in California. What he welcome to the program. What do you have? Hey, DP saw his talk to you. You're all I think what you said. The sporting was perfect. The best of the weekend is to overtime playoff games. Amazing Brady is obviously. Great to witness. You're right. And that Boone call is just unbelievable to me. I cannot believe that I am sitting here. Crying at six o'clock in the morning because of a blown call, and I think you're really covering it. Very well. Thank you for being such awesome. No, why why were you calling crime this morning would? Well, you know, I mean, it's just insane. I dot you keep showing the footage of the blown call. And it's just. Heartbreaking. It just we'll never get over. It. Just like Sean said, just we'll never get over it. So you're a saints fan living in California. Yes, I am. And I was around when I was, but I am now think fan for the past fifteen twenty years and this. I mean last year Minnesota miracle was heartbreaking. But this one is even worse. It's just. In their Woody. Yeah. You got a rough couple of weeks here because you're going to see more and more of this play. And everybody's gonna talk about it. What would be harder though, losing last year in Minnesota the way they did. Or losing like this. Now, I would say losing like this because I'm at home and you should win this game. You're number one seed, and this is a chance to go to the Super Bowl this last year was just an opportunity to play the eagles. And you know, so to me it they're both painful, but this would be more painful because it was a horrible call give credit to what the Vikings did last year. And you had a defensive back who was kind of inbetween not sure you know, what to do on that play. This is where the officials collectively made the mistake. Yes. Paulie? Satan. Is it worse to lose on some type of crazy miracle play where a one guy just made a better play the new or feel like you've got robbed even though I know we all know that the saints had a chance to win the game. They got the ball first and over time that all of that stuff. We absolutely, but you still feel like you've got robbed. I feel like this year would be worse to. Yes. Because last year was just a crazy place. Unbelievable play. And the like, are you beat us you want? I chipped my hat to the Vikings last year, if I'm the saints, just like, okay, they made a play, you know? No defensive back made a mistake and they score touchdown. But this time it's the officials. The officials had hold my beer. I'll show you how to lose a game. Yeah. You want a controversial ending? We got one for you. How about this? And it's a shame. Because you know, we it feels like we talk more about the officiating on Mondays than we used to. And I think for the most part it's been a quiet year. I don't know if we've had that many where you go. Oh my God. That was horrible. I think there are moments there. There's a lot of individual moments where you go they missed that call this is one where you go to the Super Bowl. But I still think there's plenty of blame to go around for the saints and the offense with drew Brees and Sean Payton and the play calling. And and I know that Rams fans are saying, hey, you're kind of forgetting about what the Rams did. I've already talked about how you stayed in the moment. And you you kept them in check. You held them to feel goals. You put pressure on Sean Payton, I thought the, you know, and this is where Dhamma can sue and Aaron Donald can win the Super Bowl by the amount of pressure. They put on Brady up the middle. Because if you want to be very Brady bring pressure up the middle. And you'll beat him. But if you don't get pressure up the middle. And you let him sit back there against the Kansas City Chiefs who I think were tied with the Steelers for the most sacks this year. And when you don't sack Brady. He's going to be. And that's a couple of things that I'm looking at an even if you go, okay who's he taking away Bella checks going to take away their best weapon? I don't know. If the Rams have a best weapon. You know? Gurley. Who knows maybe in two weeks? He's the Todd Gurley. We know. I mean Cooper Cup was a huge loss is Brandin cooks who he knows? Well, who we let go to the Rams. Woods who's it going to be going to be a tight end. But he's going to take away somebody you know, their best weapon. I just don't know if the Rams know who their best weapon is we'll come back. It was a great day in a bad day for Melissa Ethridge. They singer-songwriter Kansas City Chiefs fan she sang the anthem and she was there for her chiefs as they lose to Tom Brady. She'll join us next. 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If you miss Chris Collins worth our any of our interviews go to the Dan Patrick show app or Sadi's A M G Mankin. Bring back some of the thoughts and Chris Collins worth had from the first hour. Mclovin. Did you find if that was true that even if that ball was tipped in the saints game that helmet to helmet can still be called on a tipped ball? So we said a note to the NFL for fischel confirmation. But we found an example from a recent NFL rule initiative where if it's a tip pass. And it's intercepted by the other team the wires intended wide receivers still defenseless, and you can actually lose reception. So you you're still defenseless whether it's tipped or not so absolutely would. You're right would have been held with the helmet anyway. Yeah. You missed three calls there. And if you even if that ball was tipped which I don't believe it was that you have a defenseless receiver you have helmet to helmet, and you do have pass interference. If that ball's not tipped and they went over three Mercedes AM g driver's seat. Brought to you by Mercedes AM GB prepared for whatever comes your way. The all new GT four door coupe because life's arrays vizier local dealership for a test drive today. We. Had the opportunity earlier this year earlier this season to connect with Melissa Ethridge over the phone and in person in Los Angeles. She did a song for us with a stat of the day. So very sweet and she was going to be doing the anthem yesterday and Kansas City grew up a chief's fan. And we thought you know, what chiefs at home, and they're number one seed chance to go to the Super Bowl. Let's Booker for Monday. It'll be a great moment. She sings the anthem and the chiefs are going to the Super Bowl half was right? She sang the anthem and did a great job as always. But the chiefs are not going to the Super Bowl in the singer songwriter. Melissa Ethridge joining us on the program house m- around today. Melissa. You know, it's the morning after and I gotta tell you even though even though I'm waking up here in Kansas City. It's freezing cold. It was quite a night. We haven't had a night like that. It was such a game. And I feel like there's so much talent in that locker room. And I I don't feel like it's a fluke. I feel like, you know, here we go. I'm I'm that morning after football fan. That's like we got it next to you know, we're undefeated already are you in denial? Yeah. Okay. All right. You're just like any any other fan? But but this one this one where you know, you got a chance to go to the Super Bowl. Yeah. See that's the great. When we beat the colts. We went further than you know, we have an generation we went further. And so this was this was amazing. But you know, it it was hard to see that. It's hard to just sit there and watch Tom Brady just throw to Eshelman in is hard. It's hard to go. God, you know. And of course, we'll talk about our defense. But it was just it was a great game. You know do. Hey, Tom Brady. Do. I know I donate anybody. I I appreciate his greatness. I appreciate his ability. You know, Bill check and the other hand, I don't know. All right. We'll take me through your day when you're preparing for the anthem. How do you how do you prepare? Oh, well, that's a mental thing because the national anthem is one of the hardest songs thing on earth. It is there's nothing really melodic or nice about it. You can't you know, you just gotta jump right into it. And you also know that if you mess it up, that's that possibly could be your career that's gonna stay with you forever and ever and ever. And so there's just a little bit of nervousness. But you know, I just I get there, and I get to sing for for sound check. So I I went out and realized just how cold it was going to be in. How the it was cold. But is it also that I that I note or the I like when you first sing because you've got to be on the right pitch when you sing the anthem. It feels like it can get out of hand sometimes, and I don't know pre-game to real game and noise and all of that. And it's cold and the cameras are on you. And all of a sudden, you gotta make sure you start out on the right pitch. Or it's going to go sideways. You gotta start low you that that was just silly girl. I don't ever use like a pitch fork or you know, a tuning. Yeah. Pitch with which we'll never those are the nose. You may have used a pitchfork yesterday on Bella check. You know, you know, you just I just in my head. It's like oh say, I know I know I gotta hit that that. I know it's gotta be low. So I sorta sing that those first three notes over and over and over in my head. So that, you know, when they're announcing Imos CEOs say, so I don't know say, you know, something I can't be hit mandoline free. You got you got to start low. I find this interesting with fans that I always feel like when you over achieve you do a little more than people thought if I would've said at the beginning of the year to you Melissa the chiefs are going to go to the AFC title game. But you're gonna lose in overtime to Tom Brady and dramatic fashion. Would you sign up for that? Or would you rather take you know, a season where you don't make the playoffs or you have a first round exit. No, I give me this AFC championship game. This was huge. It really was and losing to the go-to. Okay. You know? No, we lost to the greatest. You know it. Okay. All right. That's okay. Do we do that in music? Do we designate goat? Like, no. We don't know. I well, I think you know, we went like Elvis Presley, and maybe, you know, Aretha Franklin, maybe, but it, but it's so you know, sort of check it. So there's subject I forget, which one that is. But it's so. Someone's tastes and someone who likes me somebody else certainly might not like my music, and you know, that's I don't think you can say the greatest really in music at all. Petition like, you know, how many passes you can throw in stuff that sort of thing. Well, unless it's like number one or hits or album sales or Grammys or I don't know if we keep track of that and say, you know, that's the way to tell who is one of the greatest or the greatest of all time. Yeah. Because then it becomes, you know. You know, Taylor swift and that sort of thing. So you know, 'cause sales are are funny to who knows. Did you meet Patrick Mahomes? I didn't on it. I didn't know, you know, what my, but my favorite part of singing, the anthems every time I step down, Andy Reid, hugs me. So Andy Reid twice. He's he stands right in front of me. When I say man, that's really something. That's by design. I think are you going to watch the Super Bowl, Melissa. Oh, I'll say no until and then I will you know, cause I'm that fan. You know? It's like, oh, no. Let's see Brady do whatever, you know, whatever. But yeah. Watch it because I'm a huge football fan. And I love it. And that's just it's the it's the end game. And then we start over again. And you you said you talked about maybe coming up with the song. And we thought song called the gunslinger for Patrick Mahomes. Little rockabilly song about the gunslinger. Are you working on that? You know? It's funny. I kept thinking, no, I'm not gonna do it this year. I really wanna see what what's going to happen here. I put you next year. But you next year when we start rolling into the season, and I'm all excited again. You know, I'll have a little little more back story to write on a on a song. You know, I can talk about the last showdown, and Arrowhead or something, you know, may maybe next year, but you know, sometimes pain brings about the best kind of music. Oh, that's that was my first twenty years of my career. It's going to well for you, Melissa. That's the problem. Now, you got a little pain. Now you tap into that. It'll be a hit song. Yes. It will be. Yes. You've been a great sport with your time. Sorry didn't end the way you thought or hoped, but we appreciate your Joan in the program and thanks again. Thank you. I to again the chiefs. They just they allowed me up -tunities saying the anthem, and it just meant a lot to me. And they just did a great job. And then they can hold their heads up. They just really really did. Well and seeing next year. Thank you, Melissa. Thank you, Dan. That's Melissa Ethridge. You know, what how this happened is? I asked Melissa being achieved fan of you ever saying the anthem and she said I have but not with the chiefs. And then the chiefs were listening somebody in their front office, and then they reach down to Melissa. And then brought her in to sing the anthem such pretty cool. If you missed any of our interviews this week from the Mercedes, AM G man cave. Go to the Dan Patrick show app. You can watch and listen from inside the Mercedes AM G man cave. Mercedes AM g driving performance. Jeff in Illinois joins us now. Hey, Jeff, what do you have for me today? Hey, Dan, techs, taking my call big fan of the show and a big Chicago Bears fan. All righty. My comment is as a football fan. I watch a lot of football the Canadian Football League. They give coaches the option to challenge pass interference. If they can do it in Canada. I don't know why we can't do it. Here. We got a lot more technology than they do. All right. Well, thank you. Jeff. Yeah. We're trying to figure that out. And I think that'll be something in the offseason. But I think it would be something in the off season whether you had controversy or not. But if you look back you'll have rules that are changed. But you have rules that are changed. And then they're using associated with a player like the Brady rule of you can't hit, you know, blow the knees. Why are you guys laughing over there? I wasn't aware the Canada with lacking in technology. Dial up they don't have rabbit ears on the TV. Let's go win more technology than they do. Canada's seem like third world. No tech there Canada. I'm move on from these comments like you guys focus on for laughing. Like, I have. Yeah. Because Jeff, and Illinois I have to be served respectable to him. So that's why move on from it. You guys zero in on us an Atari play video games way more technology than Canada we own Canada. We're not technically Nikko. Hi. Oh, hi, Nick. What do you have former today? Hey, thanks for taking my call. Dan. I'm sitting here laughing all so, but you have to show respect eight when you were talking about the replace for for obvious Paul's. I just I was thinking that, you know, New York's got the technology to just press a button and say, you know, you guys blew up call their obvious calls through the course of the games that that are quite, you know, quite obviously missed and I think the, you know, the the idea that you had there should be a button to be able to press. And you know, hey, you guys blew a call ring it up. Let's take a look at it. Yeah. And I mean, that's idea you want to get the call, right? And if you're able to do that. And let's say it's just postseason. It's not regular season. And there is a mission control center that you have in New York where you have the head of officials who's there watching game or games. And if he has the ability to hit. A button that's a talk back button to the head of officials and he coulda used that yesterday. Then why wouldn't you use them? Why wouldn't you say huddle up guys huddle up your guys? Okay. Now, do they have the power vested in them to be able to go? We're going to throw a flag. How would coaches coaches would go apoplectic? If you waited thirty seconds. And then you go. No, we got a penalty on the play. I think you gotta make sure you get the call. Right. If we had the technology to get it. Right. Still keep afloat of the game. I have no issue in the final two minutes, or let's say it's just the posts postseason, but you have to make sure that you have a true definition of what plays you would say to your fficials. You made a mistake on because there there's penalties on every play. It's there's pass interference. It felt like on gronk every single play that he went out. And that's where you have to try to define what are you going to call? Yes. But that's exactly why you can't do that. There's. Penalties on every single play. So why are you going to use technology to only call some and not the rest, maybe it's just past interference. And so the the face masks that they missed that. You don't call those how I mean how I knew put your finger on that button. And be like, by the way, you realize you missed that. Again, you missed that again to you miss this one let's say d Ford wasn't offsides. But he wasn't call. Let's say he was offside, but you didn't call it. And then you had that interception. There could you then ask for that to be reviewed? And because you know, once again once you go in it's hard to get out. And once you start you always add, you, don't subtract. Once you start to look in the final two minutes of the first half and second half. Then you start to go well in the final quarter. I mean, I know how this works. And that's where I I have trepidation with it. But that moment yesterday if the head of officials could have. I've talked to the head of that crew in said huddle up you guys really missed one. You have to decide when you can use it how you can use it. And that would be above my pay grade. Yes. I just don't like getting the human element out of the. I see no go whatever there's a controversial. But what about the human element here? Everyone. It's the NFL. It's like, we got the technology. Why aren't we getting the calls? Right. But in baseball, it's like. We wanna use the video there. I like the human element game. I like the fact that the empire has his own strike zone. The human element there ruin the game grew up on the Joe west thinks he's bigger than any other person in baseball. I like the human element there in football. Nobody talks about anybody's human element. They're like we're ready to string you up. That's the human element. All right. We'll take a break our best and worst of the weekend. More of your phone calls coming up. We'll check in with the saints at the top of the hour back after this on the Dan Patrick show. Okay. This is just a thirty second commercial. And I'm gonna throw a lot of numbers that you, please. Please stay with me. 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Pepperdine looks like a movie set. It does get them out a boo Beverly Hills go somebody build, you know, it looks like at somebody's house. You know, you know, these spec houses that they're selling for a hundred million dollars. Now, ma'am at Pepperdine there, there'd be tougher places. You know, the path to put up with then pepper. Let's see best and worst the weekend. Fritzy not here today. So start with you, mclovin. Okay. Bess is going to be our guy. Sean Manion played a key role in the game on Sunday did Jared Goff helmeted work, so Sean millions helmet led the Rams the victory the worst. It's kinda that hangover feeling now that we'll have one football game left. These yesterday was so much fun. I kind of felt empty at ten o'clock, and I got two weeks. Now, not big on the two weaker third place game between teams. Yeah. Sure. The saints would be really happy to be playing in that game. Do you really like that? Are you kidding? No, okay. We'd all watch. But no one. Okay. If I gave you third place game. Or the proble? Right. I've been close third place game offer the players two hundred thousand dollars a piece to plant a third place game like the NCAA tournament used to have that. Right. Well, you could give them more. I'm trying to think how much money you could make let's say you were playing next Sunday forty five players at two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a piece you're looking at one point two five million. Wait, no, twelve point five million dollars. Okay. I think twelve million dollars per team third place. Now didn't they used to have third place game? Yes. Back in the sixties. Okay. That's what I thought. But if you you know, whatever you're giving them to go to the Pro Bowl, you can certainly up the ante for them to play any third place game. Would you be interested in that game more than you would the Pro Bowl? If it was a third place game at the chiefs were playing the saints this week. Mclovin. You got scrunchy face there. Now, I don't think I'd be too into that. Obviously, the the safety. It's why do you have a bunch of bulbs with the players get paid nothing that don't mean anything that's fair system. Thank you. Thank you. Paulie best and worst best of the weekend. Julian Edelman, I think is one of the more underrated players Casey hall of Famer well because if it's not the whole numbers if you look at his role. We're Jim Nanshan Tony Romo talking that way the last night. Yeah. They said that he was his numbers. Do not give an all. I don't think he's made a Pro Bowl in his career. Not as a first. Ballot. Has anybody been a hall of Famer and not made the proble? I'm curious. I don't Eshelman's had huge catches. He had a couple of seasons with one hundred catches. If you were going to compare them to someone like Lynn Swann who's known for being on a winning team and not having great numbers, but Lynn made three pro bowls. Yeah. Yeah. Yemen club. I feel like I'm misreading career stats are so bad. What about his importance to there? TD's? What about his importance to the patriots dynasty thirty TD's Calvin Johnson did that and almost a season. But not in big games. No. I I like him. I think he's unbelievable. But it's shocking. How surprised how I I don't think he's a whole Famer. I think he's a clutch player. And now overachiever. Yeah. I would take elements career over Calvin Johnson's any day of the week money, everything notoriety. He's going to go down as okay? Okay. But here's my problem with this. There's a couple I don't think elements a whole Famer first of all great in the clutch. Absolutely. If Rodney Harrison is not getting a sniff at the hall of fame. And he had he's one of two guys in the history of the sport to have at least thirty sacks and thirty interceptions. Ask Bella check. How important Rodney Harrison was to those great patriot defenses. If Rodney's not getting a sniff and Rodney was better at his position than element is at his position of two time. 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Ep 96 Listeners Still in Rotation Albums

Midlife Mixtape

47:35 min | 6 months ago

Ep 96 Listeners Still in Rotation Albums

"All of his songs moving me in different ways. And whenever i need to create a push i know that this collection will give me what. I need welcomed mid-life. Mix tape the podcast. I'm nancy davis co and we're here to talk about the years between being him and breaking one way do to me. Why here taking slung listeners. Before we get into today's episode. I wanted to give a hearty congratulations to the team over at two night dot com. That's t. u. e. n. t. dot com. It's a community for women. And you've probably heard me talk about them before. Because i love the writing the interviews in the resources on their site. I've done a little bit of writing for them And i love their facebook community there. Founder and editor in chief market detweiler was in fact my guest for episode eighty two the midlife mix tape podcast talking about what it was like to create community for this group. Gen-x women well. Tonight is now growing into the next step and aside from fabulous refresh of the two night dot com website. They've created their own night. Community platform for events live and on demand courses topic based groups and live chats. It's been a long time coming for that team. It's been a lot of work on their part. So i do hope you'll go over and check out tonight dot com that's t. u. e. an i g. H t like tuesday night tuna. She just came back from the spa or had very subtle work done. It's impeccable and while we're on the topic. Let me shout out. A couple more websites and podcasts. That at us ladies of a certain age there's the wolfer jumble inflow day magazine girls of a certain age of course their creator. Kim france was also a guest on the show. She was with me on episode. Seventy and a new one on the list the guide to surviving menopause. Which is a multimedia project seeking to curate and share the stories and realities of black women and over fifty that's black girls guide to surviving. Menopause dot com. Lots of new stuff for your mid life listening. So check it out Hi there and welcome to the midlife. Mix tape podcast. I'm nancy davis co. I'm the creator and host of this show. The midlife mixed a podcast. I also wrote a book. It's called the thank you project. Cultivating happiness one letter of gratitude time. Did you have a favorite member of new edition menudo or new kids on the block. Take your calcium supplement and relax. You're among friends here back. When i started blogging at midlife mix tape a full decade ago. There was a phenomenal guest posts. That's when you invaded other writers to write an essay for your blog. Probably could take a day off and go shop for jagan's in my case. I had a little feature called still in rotation where i invited other writers and bloggers to tell us about an album that they bought forever ago but still listen to now. I just loved reading these stories when they came in about why certain music sunk into certain souls deeply and how that vinyl or cassette or cd became a talisman that followed the writer forward into the spotify and apple music years. So for this episode of the midlife stay podcast. I put out a call to listeners to ask you that very same question. What's an album. You bought in the twentieth century. That you still listen to in the twenty first in the responses i received. It was clear that sometimes that album is like comfort food. Here's one listener put it. Hey this is sean. J otherwise known as blue backer. My still in rotation album is the shins wincing the night away. The shins has long been one of my favorite bands and while i haven't bought a new albums or cd's a really long time. This one is always in my cd player especially my car. And i know that anytime. I feel like i need a pick up or just something. To kind of make it a little more bearable. This is the one that plays mike and listen to it at any time. Any points in the album. It's full of great chins songs. James mercer's incredible and this is by far my still in rotation album after fifteen plus years almost since it came out. Thanks very much. Thank you sean. I appreciate you sharing that story. I really love. The shins. And i have not listened that elba forever. Sometimes these albums take us all the way back in time to earlier days when we need that reminder like cheryl said when she wrote in and said her album is this mortal coil. It'll end in tears. She says it's still on heavy rotation after all these years. Such a wonderful collection of songs by an amazingly talented roster of four eighty artists for eighty was the record label. That put this mortal coil together cheryl says. Each song transports me back to that time in my life. We all need that little time travel music. I think so. As i was prepping the episode. I went back to reread some of the over thirty still in rotation posts. That are on midlife. Mix tape dot com and they date back to almost when the blog started back in twenty eleven and i thought jesus is really good writing. That is buried way. Too many layers down in the blog archives for anyone to find anymore so i decided to reach out to a handful of those essayists and cajole them into reading their pieces for today's episode twenty eleven me would've said podcasting twenty twenty one hold on for a second just joining this new thing called twitter so today's episode is going to be a mix of two your twenty twenty one stories of the albums that shaped you then a now and some older still in rotation essays that explore the wonderful connection between our music and our personal stories. Grab something to write with. Because if you're anything like me you're going to want to go back and check out all the music that gets talked about today after you. Listen the two co-hosts of the wonderful parenting podcast. What fresh hell both sent in responses to this question margaret says that her album still in rotation is august. And everything after by the counting. Crows and margaret says a very long story but after a desperate and youthful romantic gesture. I found myself stranded in vegas for five days in my early twenties with very little cash. And i spent the day sleeping on a lounge chair at the circus circus pool and the nights walking around the strip with disc man and only that cd such a wormhole album for me. Her partner in podcasting crime. Amy wilson said when my husband and i were first dating to making road trips to our friends parents house down in new jersey. That had a pool. We used to listen to bringing down the horse by the wallflowers over and over again. I've recently started listening to it after happening to hear sixth avenue heartache. At a restaurant with our kids there were giggling at us as we built it out everywhere way to go amy in your husband for embarrassing the kids in public. That's that's good parenting. Amy says it takes me back to a time in my life. That was exciting and happy and felt full of possibility lifestyle. Is this album now on my spotify rotation and not on random reminds me of that happiness that is available to me both margaret and amy stories. Exemplify the powerful way that music take us back to those earlier days and the way. That music steadied us through our younger romantic lives the good and bad aspects of sleeping at the circus circus pool. Might i dunno. Could that go could go in either. Category could be good or bad anyway. The way the music evolves as we do came through in this beautiful essay by writer. Vicki rich from twenty four teen about shawn colvin's nineteen eighty nine album. Study on it was the spring of nineteen ninety and i was a junior at grinnell college. Melissa ethridge had just released brave crazy and the campus lesbians were convinced she was the lady lever the indigo girls had released their self titled album and everyone was feeling closer to find and shawn colvin had just released her first album steady on it was a great time for women in music and for women who loved women news and this is where i must share with you my deep dark musical secret. I have not listened to melissa ethridge or the indigo girls. In years this is lesbian. Blasphemy but melissa ethridge is a terrible lyricist and the indigo girls harmonies aren't as captivating as they used to be. But for me shawn colvin's lyrics and voice stand the test of time and she will always hold an honored place in my music library but back to nineteen ninety. I had absolutely no idea i was gay. I was not struggling with my identity was not keeping secrets. I was simply bounding through college. Life with the insight of a labrador. There were rumors and gossip that i was a lesbian and i found the attention. Flattering but it didn't lead to a single moment of introspection. My brain was busy with important things like playing guitar for hours and rugby and figuring out wind chicken fillet day was at the cafeteria then. One night. I went to an off campus party at a friend's house and spent the evening drinking cheap beer and playing guitar. My friend had a friend in from out of town and after we finished playing a song my friend leaned in and kissed her visitor and tensed of physical reaction that came with no accompanying thought. I sat staring at them for a moment and then packed up my guitar. Music made an excuse and bolted. When i got home. I teased apart everything. I was feeling and realized that. I felt jealous that i was attracted to my friend that i was lesbian and that night. I pushed play on my cassette player. Curled up in bed and listen to steady on. I knew that my life would never be the same and took comfort in the lyrics of that title track. This centered me in the coming months. As i came out to friends and family as i began dating. I fell in love to this album and when i fell asleep in a women's arms for the first time i did so to the haunting tune of dead of the night i remember lying there listening to her heartbeat in thinking. Yes this is right. When my junior year ended. I headed to southern missouri to spend the summer my mother's house. I hadn't planned to come out to her until the summer was over but she asked i was and i- relationship fell apart that summer. I had my tapes and my guitar. That's how i survived. And i sat in my room and taught myself to play cry like an angel finding comfort once again in the words that was all many years ago in those intervening years i fell in love with my partner and had two kids and watched is. My mother held each of them without judging of their parents. Steady on was the soundtrack of my coming out. The good the bad. When i listened to it now i feel nothing but gratitude for the music and the words for being on the other side of figuring it all out and anytime. I'm feeling a little lost. I remember that boats on the ocean. Find their way back again. Sometimes the album's stayed with us because they're so damn good. You can't leave them behind. In this category denise wrote in and said pretty much. Any album recorded at sun city in l. a. That would encompass a little album called nevermind by nirvana by the way along with albums by red. Hot chili peppers fleetwood. Mac neil young. Rick springfield tom. Petty and rage against the machine sound city closed in two thousand eleven by the way but it's legendary studio and there's a documentary about sound city. That came out in two thousand thirteen produced directed by dave grohl. That you might wanna check out. It's super interesting. But when pressed denise said at this moment of i had to pick one. I think i'd put on damn the torpedoes by petty because it just sounds so damn good on vinyl. And he was denisa. Second concert when the next dylan. Rotation essay landed in my inbox. Back in two thousand thirteen. I remember thinking dang. I don't think. I had any idea of the significance. This elba when it came out. But when lance burson get started on. The beastie boys paul's boutique and why it's so unique. It's hard not to catch the wave. It's cliche to remember your first. The awkwardness of how your fingers feel over. Every part in sound at full volume. I can't forget mine even though it was a long time ago. The initial compact disc. I ever owned when that i keep in full heavy and proud. Rotation today beastie. Boys paul's boutique is difficult to imagine. The obesity is not being the apple of the critical eye. on instead. Forgivable borderline hated one it under in the summer of one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. When it was announced that the white we hip hop trio from brooklyn new york would find the released their follow up to their multi platinum debut licensed to ill. The reaction was mixed from excitement from die. Hard fans to genuine animosity. For many who felt they were noxious. Misogynous i was beginning my second year. At the university of alabama. The student radio station was my al's diner each. I was there when it wasn't in class for passed out. The cd had been out for about really. I had heard. Hey ladies on the radio it sounded like it would have been the best song licensed to ill before driving to my parents new house in atlanta georgia suburb. I stopped by turtles record. Store bought the cassette tape in played it three times. Over the almost four hour drive to lose alabama. By the time. I had arrived at my student radio station hanging out. I was sure the other deejays were playing paul's boutique. I was wrong. one fellow. Bbc's fan and i talked about how awesome it was. Then he made this statement. Dude you've got to bite. The bullet spin the extra four bucks. And get it on cd. It sounds amazing way. Paul's not is not. Only the beastie boys best album. It's arguably the best hip hop record ever recorded. Their accomplishment was a once in a lifetime a bit less than a year. After paul boutique was released biz. Markie got sued by gilbert o'sullivan for unauthorized sampling of his song alone again. Naturally in the rap and hip hop business changed instead of goofing around in a studio the junkie like dependency on sampling paying a few bucks here and there the licensing it became an expensive contractual venture. That terrified record of there are one hundred and six songs. Sampled on paul's boutique. Double what any other acted ever used contrary to myth. Abc's did pay for the samples but a fraction of the cost that a rapper hip hop act with aid today the production values of positive or second. Tonight it opens with my d king ad rock and mca stowing their appreciation for all types of women. And you think this is going to be a balls to the wall. Fat hop indulges then. Shake your rump. Rumble through the speakers in the game change. Altuve is a sonic masterpiece. Away from the cynical. Rock influence of producer. Rick rubin the. Bbc's became disciples of their new stewart. The dust brothers. The flow of the c is amazing. Is the perfect driving record. It's the perfect party album. It's the best cd to lift your spirits. On a bad day and it also talks about racism judgment cleaning your actors revived maturity and being growed. It might be the greatest album to ever play to get your shit together. While dancing and riding. I became the second person to ever play. Paul's not on the air at the university of alabama is w. u. a. Ual radio station. But i'm convinced. I'm was its biggest support talking about having more hits than sada haro in being more dapper than harry. Truman became staples of opera. Nampula i say dropping science like galileo dropping the orange at age daughters leading beastie. Boys paul's not was considered a surprise comeback artistically but with disappointing commercially after three decades. Paul's not is considered a landmark in studio production rhyming schemes pop culture references in hip hop writing. It will always be in heavy rotation with me. Virginia wrote in to say that her still in rotation album comes from one of the eighties. uber icons madonna. She says madonna's debut album even though it debuted a month after i was born. Ha ha okay. Settled down virginia. Just because i was a high school senior. When madonna by madonna came out. We can still be friends. Virginia ads. It's still so good. It reminds me of when i started to learn music and lyrics so when i hear these songs that makes me feel full of joy and all i wanna do is belt out the songs speaking of eighties icons you cannot mention madonna without following up with prince and writer an image twenty thirteen essay about her jewel and current relationship to purple. Rain is well one of my favorites even though we had some notion of prince's little red corvette my generation's liner notes the back to one place purple rain no two words of folks such a combustion of pre teen angst hormones and the styles it in me as those after all who among us doesn't know the answer to the primal call and response. Wendy is the water warm out. Shall we begin yes lisa. We knew that something was going on to ladies bathing together. Just like we knew that darling nikki was a sex fiend. These exciting confusing sentiments were heightened even further by the fact that my mom accompanied my siblings and meet a purple rain. The movie launching the movie musical sexuality discomfort level to code itchy pants. Make it stop whatever moms at the movie would-be about it wasn't prince. Fondling writhing with appalachia. That's about the only i remember. Thanks to the rain branding. That mortification provides regardless what ever this grind moves print saw little nicky. Perform in a hotel lobby was a magazine. Will i wanted to know about it. Because evidently prince liked his ladies both pretty and talented. And i liked prince as more than a friend see. Prince was hot. Prince was a total babe and not just because he could wear a screed. Splatter paint over all from the junior departments. Just like i could looking back. He probably shared a stylist with designing women. But everything went all gender. Bend the in the early eighties and our hormones fell right in line. A super wavy. We'll call it a body wave of a line. Have you looked at the boys of duran duran lately. Remember the newsweek. Cover featuring boy. George and anne lennox boyd. George set my heart aflutter and annie lennox just feminine to me as the disney princess not yet invented incidentally put a pencil width of a mustache on jasmine from aladdin and russell throat to nick and wola prince purple rain was my first thirty three rpm record purchase at west town mall with my own since i did not get one of the coveted purple vinyl limited editions drown my sorrows and tartan tiny's and the purchase of purple rain t shirt from spencer gifts. I were said to shirt mississau-. Vox fifth grade class to clean my phantom along with my homemade. Iheart billy idol button written in krant. I even choreographed performed my own version of bird routine music class. I pledge allegiance to time hand on heart other hand starts at six and flares right on up to midnight. I spent after school hours with that record jacket of my rooms senior along and wishing i could comfort just one poet laos sleeves worth of princes. Angst he only wanted to see her bathing laughing in the purple rain. Is that too much to ask. But he never can never equals purple. I would die for you. Prince me because i heart you for you. Our q t. I don't care if we spend the night in your manhood but actually i like to see a real live mansion. Take me with you. Mentioned ninety nine came and went along with y two k. Chris became the insignia formerly known instead of dancing in our middle school gyms. You'll see my friends. And i going crazy from the driver's seat of our little chrome station wagons. We know what it sounds like when children cry. That's when we turn up. The doves. My good friend. Jill wrote in with her still in rotation pick. And it was elvis costello jill wrote well elvis costello's punch. The clock was my favorite first album. The song that returned to the top of the still in rotation pal for me is from his nineteen seventy-nine armed forces album last fall in the horrible run up to the november election. I returned to. What's so funny about peace love and understanding and had it on repeat the lyrics felt like a rallying cry to me and it's the perfect song to sing at the top of your lungs in the car. Well one of my still in rotation gets writers with no doubt agree with gills choice. But for writer. Lisa rosenberg. The costello album of choice was my aim is true in the summer of nineteen eighty two. I celebrated my recent high school graduation at a concert at the santa cruz. Civic auditorium. I was there to see elvis costello seven albums deep into his career. He was touring behind his latest release. Imperial bedroom. I was there to hear so many of my favorite songs and especially those from his very first album. My aim is true specifically to hear my favorite song. Allison at the concert might hair was cut in severe chin. Link bob i were black and white. Saddle shoes that. Were meant to represent me. As who enjoyed iconic throwback fashion and was sort of into scott. My friend bowery. And i danced in our vintage pencil skirts. The crowd was young in rowdy. Any wave there was dancing and singing and someone was kicked out for smoking pot. Elvis wore a suit and tie in his signature. Black framed glasses. he was funny and clever fiercely. Intelligent an amazing musician when my favorite voices on the planet after the concert valenite sneaked into the bar. The holiday inn where we heard mr castillo was staying. We giggled as we watched drinking beer at the bar. When we finally got the courage to say hello. He was kind growing up in northern california. Coastal town. music at my high school was blue easter cold. An ac dc and more blue oyster cult. New wave and punk music hadn't broken through the pot fuel hayes of weekend keg parties at the beach listening to elvis costello felt like something other inactive defiance in freedom. It made me feel grownup. It was mine in college. I was living in la. I had shaved. The website of my head was wearing the right side in braids. I was living on food ton in the family room of a friend's apartment. I borrowed a homemade. Cassette of my aim is true for my friend berry in played it on a small battery operated boombox. My car is i cruise. Tali would might toyota hatchback. I never returned berries tape if followed me from car to car through the nineties into the new millennium. The songs were my anthems seeing me. Through movies in jobs marriages and divorces road trips bad haircuts and worse outfits. Elvis costello was conic. Voice in gutting lyrics sustained me eight years ago. My husband jeff. Nightside stella with the arlington theater in santa barbara. He played alone on the stage with his guitar. My hair had been dyed to cover the gray. I were vaguely business casual ensemble with a colorful scarves to keep off the chill. I sat in my signed seat. Clapped appreciably between songs. The crowd looked like the population of thirty year. High school class reunion. More than one of the men resembled mr belvedere with a ponytail. There was polite applause singing along in someone got kicked out for taking a picture with his iphone elsewhere suit and a tie in his signature. Black framed glasses. His temples were graying under his hat. Receding hairline it was a grand performance. He played my favorite song alison overtime. I finally figured some things out. It's no mistake that my husband's also funny clever and fiercely. Intelligent in amazing musician with one of my favorite voices on the planet after that concert jackknifed talked and laughed on a long ride back home when we got to the house. I tiptoed into the room of our little boy who had been born. A girl might have been named alison. I loved this memory that pam shared on facebook of one of my favorite early albums in excesses. Shabu shuba pam wrote. I still listen to this album a lot. I i heard it in the fall of nineteen eighty-four when i was falling in love with my college boyfriend andy. He told me that to look at. You reminded him of me. Because i was as the lyric say a different kind of girl who knows the feelings but never the words he and i went to see inaccessible. The dane county coliseum in madison wisconsin and it was an awesome show. R.i.p michael hutchence. Let's all poor. Went out for michael pam says andy. I dated about five years but didn't end up together. We're both happily married with kids and are still friends even though i now live in chicago. And he lives in marquette michigan happy ending happy ending on that i knew i was going to invite the writer of this next h. To record her still in rotation pick primarily because it gave me an excuse to catch up with her after a very long pandemic so after an hour of chitchat in which i learned that she's done a fascinating career shift. And i'm gonna invite her onto the show to share it with you someday. Soon i finally remembered to press record so that ta don johnson could tell us all about her donny. Hathaway devotion entering my childhood home in his new york one was almost certain to hear music in the background. My parents will music lovers. My dad played the drums for many years local bands and two of my uncles were. Dj's i can recall day-long trips from our home on long island into brooklyn the bronx visit old record stores that my father and uncles loved the smell of thousands of vinyl records. In a small space was intoxicating. Being surrounded about music was the most natural thing in the world to me and my love for developed early. My parents got great joy in watching me. Perform my own dance routines to song by the stylistics. The commodores and i'd be shocked if any of the five year. Old and all the lyrics in cadences of songs like work out by jackie wilson family and music were connected in such a way that the christmas holiday season became that much. More magical to me. Each person has that song. You know the one that puts you deep into the holiday spirit from the very first note you hear. I don't remember the first time. I heard this christmas by donny hathaway but i do know that by the age of five at all the lyrics memorize and it was that song for me. My parents had a small collection of christmas songs from the temptations and a few other soul artists. Friday hearing donny hathaway's contribution so many christmas songs simply didn't reflect the amount of soul and love that my favorite rb songs contains this christmas headed all deeply melodic way catchy repetitive chorus tambourines and a grooving baseline as soon as the song came on. You just had to dance smile and say oh yeah. This is christmas. I remained a lover of music entire life. And it's probably no coincidence. At my high school boyfriend turned husband played percussion like my father and had my same affinity for good music. During my first college music helped sued the stress of being an only child away from my parents and boyfriend for an extended length of time late one night in early december while studying for finals. I found myself needing a real boost a taste of home and family to push me to the finish line. I was surrounded by friends in. It's but everyone is struggling and none of us are having any luck with motivating one another dining voice popped into my head. And i knew i needed to do ran into my room and searched desperately for my cassette tape holiday jams that i have recorded from the radio the previous christmas. I tossed it in the tape that can instantly the odd recount. Drumbeats filled our sweet with energy. My black friends jumped up and started singing and swaying to the beat. My white friends looked intrigued. And i knew it was the first time they had ever heard the song within a few seconds. Dining grab the newly exposed and made them dance to the song ended. The questions began. Who was that was that song called. I've never heard that before. I can take it from you. And then the one that stopped me cold. What else does he sing. What else does he sing. Assembly didn't know. I had a cassette entitled donny hathaway collection. But i was embarrassed to admit. I've never listened to any other song on. I felt like i had just failed a major musical test and imagine the disappointment on the faces of my father and uncles with a mere eight hours until an astronomy. Final for which. I was ill prepared at layered myself winter clothes and made the short walk from my dorm to one of the twenty four hour computer labs on campus. It was full of stressed out students attempting to absorb the final nuggets before their exams and those painfully squeezing out just enough words to hit the page count for required essays. Not an empty computers to be found. Damn at that moment my need to know more about him was so great that i would not be deterred. I went back into the cold heading for another computer lab that was farther away and then it clicked house on the grounds of the university of virginia and we had an amazing music library. A hustled over to the peabody library and could not believe i had not made this magical place a second home. I dove vein and found myself falling down the rabbit hole. Microfiche articles real to reel album recordings digital photo images with so much information on donny. Hathaway that i never expected to see the end of it. I was excited intrigued and saddened by had read and heard never had heard in connected with an artist in the way. That i connected with donny. Hathaway the beautiful timber of his voice was like that of a warm flannel blanket. On a bone chilling winter night it warmed my heart and soul like that of the long lost friend and lover. Eleven quality of his voice was wrapped in equal layers of pain and despair. I couldn't ignore the pain. The raw emotion that was woven through each song cozma tears of flow without warning that night. I fell in love with donnie hathaway. His musical beginnings his love and marriage is college sweetheart. Their two daughters his friendship musical. Do as roberta flack and eventually his death. Reading the hazy details surrounding his death pained me. I had known and loved him during the course of his life. The official narrative is that he completed suicide. But i'm stubborn. Believer that his fall from the fifteenth. Four of essex hotel in new york city was a tragic accident although he suffered from depression in the past family and friends specifically roberta flack was within that very day recording new music report that he was in great spirits. That day am very optimistic about the career developments on the horizon. He was known to remove screen from hotel windows and sit in them in order to get fresh air in here a pure sound of his own voice from that night in december nineteen ninety-three until today donny. Hathaway music occupied a prominent place in the soundtrack of my life. The compilation donny. Hathaway collection is my go-to recording. When need a little dosa adani his catalog much more extensive than justice collection. But is the one that i keep in heavy rotation. He speaks of life love heartache. Passion pain joy happiness. Regret it just this christmas. They might take him to be a joyful. One hit wonder but he is so much more than that. He's an artist that wrote to release his soul and he unselfishly shared it with the rest of us. Many know donnie. Only as the male singer on the popular duets at roberta flack sang together. Especially the closer. I get to you. And where's the love while. I can appreciate those. They are but one small facet of the gifts. That donnie left us. A few of my favorite says stay on repeat are for all we know which speaks to a pair of lovers who have a moment in which they share their love with the idea. they may never have another. You were meant for me which speaks to him loving a woman and vowing not to let anything tarnished the love and one of his most special recording. Someday we'll all be free. Which cost him to cry. In the recording studio upon its completion. My painful favorite is giving up that one always pushes me to the verge of tears. Donny's talent was passed his daughter leila hathaway. I followed her career closely and i hope to one day be able to tell her just. Her father's music does to my heart and soul. All of his songs moved me in different ways. And whenever i need to create a push i know that this collection will give me what i need and late. Two thousand eight. I was thirty nine weeks pregnant with our first child. And it became evident that i might not begin labor on my own. My obstetrician decided my husband and i needed to schedule my delivery so we sat together to look at the count of january. Two thousand nine. She offered me a range of dates. between january. seven and january fourteenth without a moment's hesitation is like the january thirteenth. Two thousand nine thirty years to the day. That donny hathaway's musical genius left this planet. I often wonder what other treasures would have given us had. He not passed away at the young age of thirty three yet. I am forever grateful and thankful that he shared as much as he did one last right in from a listener and that's are now talking about song to a seagull by joni mitchell arnelle rights. I played it a lot in my teens. it comes into rotation when. I'm sad or moody it. Lets me play with my emotions and then it makes me happy. After that i continued to play it simply because her voice is so pure the lyrics so vivid and melody so lovely. I've been listening to it on an offer a couple of months now. I just finished by the way reading. Brandy carlisle's memoir called broken horses and her devotion to joni. Mitchell is just lovely. And there's some great stories that she shares about joni kind of taking notice of her and inviting her over to jam and brandies reaction to it as i think all of our reaction to it like she just does not think she's worthy and it's it's really pretty cute so i i loved that book broken horses. I recommended if you're a brandy. Fan one final. Still in rotation from the archives comes from writer. Laurie white writing about the nineteen ninety two album black eyed man by the cowboy junkies. I wish i could remember the day. I i discovered cabbage on case black-eyed man because it just seems right to remember when my most important and enduring relationships began taking a kind review of mental capacity for a change. I think it's just one of those things that feels like. It's always been there. So maybe the particulars. Aren't that important. I listened to the album as close. To how i used to as i could minus a couple of ice in a newly broken heart to try and remember i crashed on my couch and turned it on on spotify. Not a scratched cd. I scrounged off with my car floor. I can't tell you. How many copies of this. I loved loss and let it play no cigarettes now. No extra long twin bed. Why are these beds. Extra-long in a drafty ohio grad school house know-how at all. No none of that tonight. It's just margo timmins singing her way into the corner of my living room and through some sort of southern gothic all folk landscape that no one i know about side of real country music can create like her and her brother michael who plays guitar and writes the lyrics. I used to like to think of when they first realized it works so perfectly. and what. It's like to be that creatively tied to your brother in a way. That's in any way sustainable road. Even for decades i followed them obsessively for a few years on their usual circuit of mostly restored theaters with columns and curtains and small listening room type spots. Michael sits to play guitar. Marco always has a stool for the occasional sitting. Chat plus t in the eternal bouquet of flowers sent by a fan. They may as well be performing in different rooms. Their approach the experiences so different but she still looks at him and backup band. Another brother is the drummer with what identifies affection. So that's when i found them. People were all about their remake. A velvet underground sweet jane on nineteen eighty. Eight's the trinity sessions they are into a module via cover song guest appearance and the song love. I liked it. A lot and had a long communion with misguided angel in particular probably because of some over identification at the time with the protagonist. But it wasn't until black-eyed man that i've in on it kicks off with southern rain. A gorgeous lee made in sung song with a groovy guitar. Hook that sets the mood. You need to get through this. It's still gets me every time it's many stories like this of crimes of passion old loves waiting on trains. A woman fleeing pain to ride her horse every second sunday. The title track details a black-eyed man taking the fall for poisoning. Well because he happened to piss his girlfriend off. Which is michael. Tim's mind you apparently ought not to do the last line of last. I need the water. That's not right around. Here is still one of my favorite lyrics and so it continues for almost forty five minutes trial for what acts for. Why murder tonight in the trailer park. Who don't know something strange. Strangest generally a foot in love or killing both margo rolls through it. It's best not to ask too many questions like the people in the songs once. You've heard her voice speaking or singing you won't anyway. Candy wadey is kind magic in your face and your ears. I met her once and she was just as i wanted her to be. I don't like to meet performers. I love usually ruins the illusion. I need to keep a few of those in this case. Glad i made an exception. Because i have a picture. It is happy. That was a good night. It's been easy to take this album with me. it doesn't need to recapture anything. It or i was when i had it on repeat during a long heartbreaker of a first year away from home in the shambles of a. I love smoking too much and crying too much. I don't even know how i'd have survived it without music. you know. I remember sitting in venues by myself watching the bring it to life onstage. Taking me into and out of myself certain music is one of the only things that can change my brain zero to sixty in one track. The last song is a cover of towns. Vance to live is to fly. This one is different. The stories are over. And you've got a mission now to move on. It's hope that has gone on to so many of my mix tapes playlists ever since it means different things all the time but it always works. I didn't believe that it didn't pay too much to think on the things i left behind when i heard it the first time i wanted to so much. It's good to catch up with margaret now to hear her. Say it again to keep pressing. Play to see what stuck. It's good to catch up with margo now to hear her. Say it again to keep pressing play to see what stuck. That's the line for me right there. Keep pressing play. And see what sticks. So i was thinking about how i would answer this question kind of looking at it from a twenty twenty one perspective. What's the album. That's still in rotation and for me during the pandemic it's been peter gabriel's so and i was thinking about it and i realized i've written about that before not for midlife. Mix tape dot com but as a guest post on a different blog. And so i'm going to share that with you. This guy published on the rumpus dot net back in two thousand twelve. It's not so much about why it sticks with me now. But rather why i gravitated toward it in the first place whenever i felt the waves of home-sickness approaching my semester abroad in vienna back in nineteen eighty seven. I knew what i had to do. But up the gray scratchy. To rowley jacket i bought at a flea market. Tuck my yellow cassette plane walkman into its breast pocket and press play on peter gabriel's so i'd never been a fan of genesis growing up on our family radio dial. My sister held down country. I ruled over new wave and my brothers territory was all things rock we were gleefully opposed to each other's tastes out of principle and liking anything by genesis or gabriel would have felt disloyal to the cult echo on the bunny man and new order but one high school summer during which i worked as a camp counselor far from radio. Signal a peter. Gabriel mix tape lettered in. My brother's handwriting somehow ended up in my canvas duffel bag. I played salisbury hill. Hit rewind played it again and again and again stopping only listen to biko and san jacinto a few million times each so by the time so came out in eighty six. I was one of the first people in line at the college record store to buy the cassette as a person who had decided it fourteen. She would have a career in international business. I was as surprised as anyone realized during my junior year of college. That i'd never been abroad. My german was passable. And vienna seemed more exotic than munich. So i found a program. They are moved academic heaven and earth to make it happen for the spring semester. My adviser let me know. I'd have to double on required courses before and afterwards. But while i was in vienna i could coast with electives like viennese opera and austrian artists of the viennese secession. Predictably the first three weeks living in europe where thrilling a milan of new challenges and strange customs and easy classes and it being vienna pastries but reality arrived in a rush of record breaking winter. Storms short tempered sales clerks expensive groceries an accent that scoffed at my textbook german that my landlady rented out the single bathroom in our flat to turkish guest workers who needed a quick bath li added to my sense of isolation. The only thing that could put me back right was a long walk in the cold along the danube with peter. Gabriel singing in my ear. The first bars of red rain always coincided with my hasty departure from the apartment which was on the top floor of an ancient building with no elevator. The wide unheeded concrete staircase was always dark. And you had to hit a timer light on each level to see your way down. I'd smack the light switch and pound down the stairs in time to the driving. Beat of the song cursing the stupidity of the knees for not installing proper lights which meant american lights that stayed on. Through the prism of time. I can now appreciate this energy. Conserving lighting system. But at the time. This place is so quiet since in that storm. I was the storm baby. I was the mother. Fm red rain. I plunge into the cold walk a few blocks to the icy danube canal. And by the time. I descended to the walkway that ran alongside it. Sledgehammer would be playing. There's not a better song to get the blood pumping warming up digits and exposed facial skin that the wind was trying furiously. Defrost my gate to sledgehammer. Was the ultimate defiance. I would not let him ruin my study experience and then a theory kate. Bush would chime in with peter. Gabriel chide me gently. Don't give up should sing. You're not beaten yet. It was usually at this point fifty minutes or so into my heart pounding. Walk that my shoulders would lower and my jaw unclench not quite ready to lay down my bag of self pity. Maybe i would at least start looking around me instead of at my pounding. Feet as that voice again and mercy street flowed past. I began to notice the details. The cute punk couple walking their dachshund in its little green to rowley coat. The apartment building with viennese secessionist embellishments. That reminded me of something are art. Professor had told us about otto wagner graffiti written on a bench german who's irony. I actually understood. I'd execute pivot step here and start heading back for home. You cannot listen to big time without an inward smell at the blowhard narrator. Whose praying to a big god as nielsen. In his big church. It's a song that reminded me not to take myself too seriously. So studying abroad isn't perfect. So the landlady offered you a tray of home baked cookies you devoured and only realized. You're watching her recreate the recipe. Later that she formed each ball of batter into the palm of her fresh licked hand. So you blew your entire food budget for the month on a pair of pony skin leopard combat boots. If nothing else. I was collecting good stories. I'd be nearing the steps to climb back up to my street when that hundred pound gorilla of a song in your eyes came on as any woman who was a teenager during the eighties. We'll tell you the site of loyd doppler holding his boombox aloft for diane court to hear the song pouring out ruined us as romantic partners forever unless a guy comes up with the line as stunning as in your eyes. I see the doorway of thousand churches. Which one might reasonably argue is an unattainable task. He will always be a little bit of a disappointment. Yeah so maybe. I gained the viennese twenty. Thanks to the. I stand and the gelato shop that i passed on my way to school not to mention the heads leaking. Look cookies that conveyed best wishes and about three thousand calories each but up here my is. I'm a freaking cathedral. Man with stained glass in kneeling benches of emotion. Right before i left vienna. I ran into a classmate of mine. For whom i pined at a frat party. That was coming apart at the seams at three in the morning. So on the stereo and went in your eyes came on. He silently put his hand on the small of my back and push me to the center of the empty dancefloor. Its perimeter marked by drunken students. Flopped on couches. Maybe this guy saw my basilicas. We swayed into one another through the very last note and it became our song. Even if i left for vienna before there was time for an hour so even today when i hear in your eyes i sent a silent heads looking blueprint out to my old classmate and two peter gabriel to give me a reason to keep going so i've been trying to figure out why this album is suddenly so high in my consciousness again in twenty twenty one. I think the common thread is anger. Walking i have spent so much time walking in the past year just because something to do. I recommend it give it a try. Let me know what you thought of. Today's episode maybe. You have still in rotation that you wanna share after listening today if you do drop me. A line at dj at midlife. Mix tape dot com or send me a message via instagram. Facebook and twitter at midlife. Mix tape i'm still scheduling virtual events around the top of gratitude letters and my book. The thank you project for school groups for community organizations libraries workplaces. If you've got a group of people. I'd love to tell them how gratitude letters work something you're interested in learning more about or if you know of a conference organization interested in learning more please let me know at dj at midlife. Mix tape dot com. And if i book and event. Thanks you i would love to send you a signed copy of the. Thank you project if you want it. I don't have to send you a book if you don't want it. But i really do appreciate the support and remember. Mother's day is coming up may ninth. Have you written your mom or aunt or daughter or sister or pod. Mom a thank you letter yet. right now. Handed over with a copy of the book. bam time for mimosas. Have a wonderful week. Everyone only leave haven't would have not be these these babylonia. I'm only three had been with f you want from me. B b b. He won't be.

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6.8.20 ft. Bill Farmer

MZNOW with Michael Zavala

42:42 min | 1 year ago

6.8.20 ft. Bill Farmer

"You're about to enter the world of Michael's of all. Short. Alone, you listening in Michael's Avella. This is MC now. While I'm super excited. See Sarah, again I haven't seen Sarah in like two years at least hey Sarah. Fatter She's holding her cat. which is Eric said is bigger than she is. She doesn't a sauce away. That's trying to send you eight. Speller, but. You know how that happened. I think. Yeah, you do look like a lot of weight. You huge by the way I'm not saying that you can. By the way she was three hundred pounds when we last hour. You look like you're been taking care of yourself during quaranteed input on the quarantine, fifteen. I haven't checked to be fair. I'm avoiding all measurements of myself in every way, yeah! Same here. Yeah? Not Putting on pants not lasted until I really have to. Wear. When it happened late site myself in the mirror and be like whatever happens yeah. Late, we'll get through this together, yeah. So this is actually really exciting historical, because it's the first time I've seen Sarah use zoom and it works. let me give a little background of that, so like two years ago. We are three years I. Don't know how many years ago was, but we used to. Sometimes we wing shows. I know it might be surprising to some people. It looks like we always have our stuff together, but there are some days we walk in, and we have nothing to talk about, and we just wing it and it sometimes sorted out great. Sometimes, it's a disaster, but. In order to to help curve the winging that we were doing I said. Let's start doing these meetings before the show, so we have an idea what we're gonNA. Do before the Mike On. Right, yeah, let's try being professional. That's what I said and so it we used to do these little zoom meetings, which lasted about two months. Once a week. It would be Sarah Eric Bobby Myself. Eric was always coming home from school. The time that we had the meeting, so he was driving, so he was Kinda how. The road. Yeah, he wasn't really paid attention to us. He was just Kinda. Try Not to crash die. Bobby was always eating and was trying to make people laugh. He wasn't paying attention to all. He was just trying to make people laugh on the call, and do funny faces, or whatever and then Sarah always paying attention, but could never talk every time she would try to give. An idea or something she was like I think we should just go out every single time without fail. We had zoom retrial, so it was like forty minutes. And I said Oh. We'll never go over forty minutes just like fifteen minutes. We're kind of just brainstorm a little bit. Everyone had their projects for the week and then we'll reconvene at the studio. It always went over forty minutes had always jump back on a new session did another forty minutes it was ridiculous. We accomplished anything, but it was always fun. On the bright side, the audio of bobbies do going through his full digest attract. It was great. It was hilarious. Yeah, there was a lot of good moments like that. We too bad. We didn't record it last. I heard from. Sarah well I guess you text me a couple months ago was a group taxes. You had just moved down to New Orleans. Sarah had disappeared, and it's normal for Sarah to like show up for ninety days and then disappear randomly like an. An you like hey, where did you go all? I was in Haiti just for a little break. There was a great resort down there. I was hanging out with the gates, and the you know the Hiltons and I don I. Don't know if you know who they are, but their family friends. My aunt knows them or whatever and so anyway. This is a world travel so. Now I have an excellent unplanned. Sometimes she would warn us like hey. By the way I am going to be gone next week and for the next fifteen weeks. Because I'M GONNA be. Somewhere else, and that's cool so anyway. She did one of her disappearing acts, and so we've. We just never saw her again, so I thought you might have been dead I didn't know what was going on and Ericsson Hey I saw the other day and she's GonNa. Come back to the show and so I was like Oh. That's really exciting and then three weeks later I said well. We're Sarah. Have you taught her? She does she plan to come back. Oh, no, she moved to New Orleans. And that was it. So, what made you decide to move to New Orleans? Before. You went to school down there right? Yes, College here, but going being anywhere as a college student in ads like real life human being. Is just a whole new world. So, I decided to give it a shot I'd like some unfinished business. Take care of Muslim gallison's lake. Ida Board. Did. Are you still dating the same guy? Did he move down with you? On Dallas and he's still around and he's super real and exists. I know I met him whenever we all liked him like you should talk about her boyfriend for like a year and we never met him like. I don't know this guy really exists. And then she brought him around and he's a normal cool guy. Yeah, Eric, them very attractive. Common. The Bar was this high. You're like wow. Normally, we really exceeded our expectations. We really thought going to be like a guy like me really. Guy That goes to star trek conventions. Play Dungeons and dragons, or whatever he is a professional mathematician, right? Are you guys still dating? Yeah, he's still around man. But what does that mean? Because I are you guys still dating? You're like. Yeah, he's still around. What does that mean we're? Still. Open. You just have to travel to see each other now. Air is imagine if we like people in Oakland relationships. If you're like listen, what's the open? See other people, and then you go in the world. Realize like no one else's interesting. Every single relationship I've had. Do, you think it. Would it be who date other people? Yes, you're go right ahead. They always say go right ahead. Go. I'm not an open relationship and I already realized that yeah. I've been in it so long. I forgot rights. Imagine that's what happened. I already know. Poorly. Are you still doing standup? Yeah! All the same. Gesture replaced with weird people yeah. She does like dual stand up like she does it with a group which is really do do it Solo, or are you still doing it with a group or other comedian? Here yet, but. The Garage? Before is now new. York and it's leg. Really killing it big time. Eight Times I've never seen a other than those two brothers from They're twins sklar. Brothers. From. Radio and Jason Story. Are they from other younger, they always smoking weed. No this is a there's another group that I'm digging up I. Forgot Their name is there to comedians been a bunch of like seth, Rogan movies and stuff like that. Anyway they do it, but it works because they're like twins and just kind of finish. Each Other's jokes punch lines that works out really well, so I've always been interested to see how it works with two different people doing stand up together. Would you guys right together? Yeah? Okay, and so you got there and just. Before I've always interested doing it because I never liked being up there by myself when I was doing, stand up. Yeah, it works better for me anyway to bounce off of somebody saying and I I always pick someone I feel like. My material but I'm not very cool in likable. About Myself. I, find. I, find. Someone very cool, and then it let works both best. It's an excellent trick. I'm sorry I'm listening to you, but my desk falling apart. It with my knee. I'm trying to put this little foot thing back in, but I'll do it during the break. And then how's the food over there? Is it amazing amazing as always? It's like. It's new. Orleans is a very specific place to live. If that makes sense. Lay. Things happened constantly that just don't happen anywhere else lake. For example, there is a hurricane right now today happening outside right. Like. They had to cancel the protests because of the hurricanes. Cod Yeah. How is quarantine Ben for You living in New Jersey, you're kind of a home. You are not right. You don't like necessarily staying at home, but you do and you're going out, but you don't like going out kind of a weird like you're kind of like me. In that regard, it's weird. Gray area. So, how has it been for you? Have you been enjoying it at all or no I have? This is very normal where. This is awesome I feel. So much less pressure to do things. Yeah, minutes later, your lake. The world is over. Or like. Weird again right, but I'm actually okay with that like I'm cool with never seen anybody again I'm I'm cool with doing this for the rest of my life. True that I mean the show I just mean sitting in a chair watching TV yeah. I had multiple told me that they're like quarantine. I guess it's not really that different free though. We're GONNA. Take a break when we come back bill farmer. WHO's the voice of Goofy for thirty years? Bugs, Bunny. There's been in the past thirty years. There's been like fifty guys being bugs bunny. He's the only guy that's been doing goofy. And he's a stand up comic. Who got into voice acting? So. There's a future for you, Sarah Voice acting with one voice I can only play modern Doria only. Back. All that coming online and MC NOW DOT TV. Sue Live Call eight years. You live. Five High. My name is star. You may have heard of me from the world. Renowned syndicated radio show called M.. Z. Now where Michael of Allah has deemed me the show Germaphobe because of my overly obsessive hygiene habits of washing my hands before every meal, while eating out carrying a to go hand sanitizer on my hip, and pointing out the people best spit when they talk Texas Governor Abbott announced Friday may first he will be allowing businesses such as malls, retail stores, libraries, museums, restaurants, and movie theaters to operate at a twenty five percent. Percent Capacity so starting May I don't away all of my safety measurements, and if my best life yellow right, forget the fact that Dallas Texas has reached its highest confirmed cases on record within the same week. This is why you can do starting this weekend. According to Governor Abbot Eric I can't wait to see this movie. Hey, you WANNA. Get some popcorn down. Let's go wait I just. The Popcorn Guy Scoop out the popcorn with his bare hands. I don't even think he washed it and is it may yes, it's May. It's okay. I just need his book and put right back on the bookshelf. Only let me see that buck. I'll put it up for you. Thank you. WHAT A GREAT POW! Thanks! High Five! Right here reads books anymore. Oh Michael. I really WANNA pieces bricks delicious, but we were hurricane to cut it. Don't worry, Eric I'll breaking apart with my bare hands. Why denies take of that and these are just a few things? You could do this weekend to do your part to Hashtag. Raise the curve. This is Eric. Star and I'm Maga Zavala and together. We're raising the curb. Your grandma's live too long. Anyway, it's. Not Working Out of Execution Commission This summer. Comes the most anticipated movie of the Year Entertainment Weekly calls it intense and deeply disturbing Richard. Roper said I didn't sleep for three nights. Diabetes Pardew. Coming Soon This is. Now Matica roble stranger thing and you're listening to Michael of Allah. So I've been doing this a long time now and I never get star struck unless it's a voice actor. If your name is rob, Paulsen or air bows or bill, farmer I start sweating and getting all nervous and Awkward House. EFFORT INTERDICTION MR farmer. One of the best ones I've ever gotten It's so. It's a pleasure to join you today. Are you ready to get out of the house? You tied to be home at this boy F. My dogs are keeping these saying so I guess if they come on about an hour walk every night, and that's my Santa Fish. Are you able to still work from home? Do you have view in your house? I do have a studio. And I'm able to do my animation series that I have going on right here at home, which is a unique challenge, but it works really well for those who don't know. You've been the voice of Goofy for how many years now like Oh, over thirty years right Gore's let me see probably about thirty three years now. That's so incredible. Town do yeah, isn't that the greatest in the world, not necessarily playing Goofy, and that's an honor in itself, but just voice acting in general. Yeah, really is just I love doing it and I've been very fortunate to have such a great. Series of characters that I've been able to do and stay busy all these years. I mean Luckily I don't look the same that I did thirty three years ago, but I found the same, so you can do it for a long time. You started out as a comic. How do you make your way into voice acting? How did that transition happen well? I lived in Dallas. At the time of not started in Dallas doing stand up. And did that for about five years all through Texas in the south, and finally in eighty six I decided. You know go to Hollywood. The see what would happen out here and as a voice artist and impressionist and stand up comic that comes in really handy in animation, and as luck would have it about four months after getting here I got an audition for some of the Disney characters they were. They were looking to kind of solidify the voice voice talents on all of the main. Main characters and out of about a thousand people. I won the audition for Goofy and Pluto and and then got to add to that list over the years done a lot of other ones as well and now you're going in front of the camera to meet the dogs in real life. Right from around the country. Absolutely, it's a little change. Most actors Y- into animation to. To like Tom Hanks or whoever no one goes the other way I'm kinda breaking whole now. It's an animation actor going in front of the camera. What's the premise of the show? The I is that we came up with is that I've been voicing Disney dogs for thirty years now I'm stepping out for buying the microphone to find out about real working dogs and the amazing. Amazing jobs that dogs do to help mankind. There's just so many things that dogs can and do do on a regular basis I had no idea about and totally been an amazing experience with the show together. What kind of dogs do you have I have a black lab pit bull nicknamed named Booze, the sweetest thing and we call her boo because she's scared of every. and. Bubbles and things like that and then a little west, the mix named Roxy and she's got kind of more of the street attitude. She'd been living on the street for about nine months when we got her, and so she's got a tough little thing. We call her terrier. That's cool. So what kind of activities are keeping you busy during this quarantine time I know you're still able to work. But what else are you doing to stay busy well I I've been in the garage kind of shorting out. Oh, here's a phillips head screw. Let's put it this. Busy? It's tough. Yeah, but luckily I'm still on three or four series right now with Disney and so I'm doing a lot of voice over work here for my studio at home. We set it up so that we could do it. remotely, and it seems to be working pretty well. That's awesome, well, Mr Farmer. I could talk to all day your new show. It's a dog's life with bill. Farmer is streaming on Disney plus thank you so much. It's been an honor Oh. It's my honor to join us. Thank you so much. No! During these wacky you too, Sir I. Appreciate It, thanks. Eric. Did you say you finished space for Spider? Just said he finished at this week you. Did and when finished I didn't realize that I finished it. What do you mean by that? He didn't know it was. Right. Yeah, like well first of all. I didn't know I was so. Invested in the show like. I was episode seven I didn't realize that exhibit plane while I'm doing. I'm working. I am not really following the story line I get the gist of it, but I mean there's not much of a story line. Yeah, so I wasn't really on my okay And then by the end of mall like that's like thought, something else was going to happen. Yeah, kind of ends abruptly. Yeah, I didn't find it to entertaining. So, what's your rating one to ten? Three. ooh! What about you, spider? I enjoyed it. It was pretty generic, but it was good. Yeah, great cat! What would you give us a? Say. I'm going to be like a six. If really paying attention to it, give it a ten for background show though like just to throw on in the background. pay attention to really good. Yeah, it's it's not like a Sitcom with as a joke a second, but you can still look up and get a funny scene or whatever I am hoping for a second season. At your I can't remember you a big TV person. I. Don't think you are right. Like really serious documentaries and Comedy like full garbage. That's right. That's right. There was a very specific. Genre that you watch. What are you watching right now in quarantine? Watching and watching I drag race which I always do. NASCAR, I caught up yeah. BIG NASCAR FAN right. Favorite driver. RUPAUL! Elissa. Unless Edwards does kind of sound like a Nascar driver though? That! Texas accent mosquito mosquito. We're GONNA. Do a little bump in drag. I'm going to tell you any driver. I real fast real fast since we're GONNA hop over, but we're GONNA win. We're going to go right so that baby. We're GONNA finish rat I am working. We're going away. That's Pretty Gillis. We're not going to work on that. I can make it happen you. Think I could do that. That'd be. A great impression, we'd have arsenal. Lake People would not see that. I. It would go from Dr. Phil to Eliza Edwards. Here? And Melissa Ethridge right after that. To. Oregon! A turn left all day long. That's another song or is it the same song? That's Melissa Ethridge. As come to my window, NASCAR REMIX I'll see. Other than drag race. You Watch anything in particular that that we should add to our watchlist. Should be ready I like. Everyone should be ready for this question all times now, according to you, because really, that's all you can talk about. Yeah, we can talk about the weather. I, On. I haven't been outside. Is it hurricane? Sarah's window. You happen. That's how you noticed the weather a full hurricane. There could be a hurricane outside my window right now. I have no clue because I've actually. That's a light so yesterday. Everyone saying you gotta go out. You GotTa do so. Yesterday was the first time since March. They went out and actually interacted with people other than. My Family Because I had to go the studio. It's a whole thing, so number one. There's still just as much traffic outside of there was before I went into lockdown, so I don't miss being outside. Then I come back home and I find that a tick has bitten me. No so now I have. For GOYA's. Go outside. You'll enjoy it, and then I step outside for the first time. Get Bit by a tick. First Time I've ever been by taking my entire life and I know exactly what it is to whenever. I touch myself a lot. I just mean like in general I just I I'm always monitoring. Yeah I'm monitoring. You know, make sure that I don't have any lumps or bomb or whatever you know, yeah. That's right and I noticed something that didn't. It was in my my hairline like on the back of my head. That does seem foreign and I instantly knew what it was but I thought to myself. It can't be that. One I didn't touch any animal. So where did this come from? But to, it's probably I took a shower this morning. It's probably the soap. Bar Chunk of the soap in my hair or maybe I'm just coming up with I'm trying to convince myself at something else. So Bright? That's what I was hoping. It was not not like your hair nodded up because he didn't. It wasn't that texture. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't the texture which is something I thought. Maybe it's a clump of Jail I. Didn't notice it and. You're attaching yourself after you're done touching yourself you happen. Touch the back of your head and. A caught up. Right there's something about Mary thing going on right so I'm thinking it's gotta be one of these other scenarios. It's definitely not a tick. Where am I going to get a tick? From other than being outside Ooh, you live kind of in the country. Yeah, but I'm not outs literally. Walk from here to the car. And then drove into downtown and came back and went so between the shower. And my drive out and back. A tick attacked me somewhere. It was hanging out with those wasps. Maybe the ones that was there buddy that was a hit man who killed family. But I've never been bit by ticks on Google and everything now it's automatically I've got lyme disease Oh my head I feel I'm going through my body right now. How did you get off I probably get a corona with lime now. How did you get it off? was like you? I'll be here all night. That's the it's very topic. You can't use that at any other time in life. It's literally this this. Is it corona with a touch alive? tweeted out now, yeah! Good idea, thank you Sarah. My phone anyway Derek Sorry, I'll say like. Did you feel like discomfort or pain at like? I just. Pulled it hoping it was gel, and then it was, it was a little tough to get off, and then I'm like. Please just let it be something else and then i. saw it in the paper towel. It was discussed I. don't even want to go to detail because I. Know People get grossed out with that and I get grossed out as well and like a little piece of skin in its mouth. And, so I was I smash. It wasn't a whole lot of it was like flat. You know what I mean so. It wasn't like it was on there for very long, but I never felt if I wasn't touching myself. I wouldn't have known that it was there. Write Hashtag. Touch yourself right. Yeah, it's. Touch yourself June and it's where you just. Feel yourself to make sure want me bumps. Her lungs or foreign objects stuck to your body, but anyway has anybody been bit by tick and survived. Insert Stephen Bibliotheque? Beckham Anita one point. I know I'm disease, no absolute twelve or thirteen something like that, so then they say lyme disease comes with are carried by the deer tick. Yes, so I looked at pictures of what the deer tick looks like it looks exactly what I pulled out of my head that or An American dog tick. How do I know if in fact or not? If. You go to the ban doctors now now it's like what do I have? Is it allergies actually? What you should have been is should have not crush the tick. He should interrogated the take and find out how many people that take as men in contact. It's just a natural. A knee jerk reaction you know. The. The tick should have been wearing a mask so right exactly if masks. None of this would happened the that's the other baby I. set my mass down in a tick crawled in it and then I. Don't know how I got this own now. That's an argument against masks. Yeah, or just means. Keep your mask on at all times. Well. Contact with mark yesterday. Maybe mark carried it in. August honesty live with animals. Has Dog yes. Probably from art. And not has boyfriend. Who that's better one on I and. They'RE GONNA say. Wearing your mastodons at something, you should do even prior and post of it. You Know Oh. Yeah, for sure. I'm all for people wearing their masks outside, unless you're very attractive to wear masks, but all of us with the exception of like aircon. Sarah should wear. Including Like, because like when you were, tell us about that girl. That was really attractive in that show. I was just Kinda like So now it's like a young Jennifer Aniston No. Maybe it was my lime disease taken it. Maybe, maybe Jennifer the touch down syndrome. In a hypothetical scenario, okay in a mirror universe, this very attractive actress, very successful actress comes up to you and I find you attractive. Yeah, well I'm going. I'm going with that, but you're going to say no. You like Jennifer Aniston with a touch of down syndrome. Now you're going to be like this is the hottest chick that's ever been interested in proposed to her. Right in there, right? Yeah, how do you feel about Meredith about kids? Let's get this thing going. That's going to vegas right now. I feel like I've actually been with more attractive women, then what? Let's. Let's be. Out. Yeah, listen, there's not. There's not one person on plenty of fish hotter than that chick they're. Always whites. Yeah. That's exactly right. I've never understood how. I've never understood bobby as available to find. Three that look identical. Jess. Of relationships I don't think he's married all of them, but anyway so back to the lime disease. Does it happen right away? What's going to happen? What should I expect? Dr Eric Our medical at me under penalty. He knows more than me. I tell mark that I potentially have lime disease from his tick from his house. He's going to become. Doctor is all of a sudden? Start posting things about lyme disease. Tell me how I should what I should do he's. Doing that third slamming ZANEX. Back so I didn't feel the bite or anything, but after I pulled it off, it's sore in that area. Will Yeah. You tore off flesh off your hands, but I mean it's still like twenty four hours later. It's still sore. Will I mean so? I think that's the line as A. Body to thirty days. Oh my gosh. I can deal with this. Did you disinfect? You got a couple more days before something might happen. You think you're going to heal like super fast like wolverine. Yeah thought maybe radioactive tick. Are Walden. Your your best bet is to become an ex-man or the next Spiderman, but the next tick. I feel like so dirty. Because I got biotech I. How should why would this happen to me? In those movies where it's like the apocalypse happens, there's a Zombie disease and you know like maybe when you get bit or if he gets stung by something, you just know automatically that you're going to die. That's how I felt when I pulled the tick out of my I'm like I'm dead, does it? This is what does me in not the covid nineteen, but a tick, not the covid nineteen. Like I said at this point. You don't know what you HAP-. You can have allergies. You! Have Corona, or you could have lime disease I don't know what I'm GonNa, live or any other diseases that are still going on I might like malaria or something. Scabies the Malaria had God. Jack for that Oh. Okay and lyme disease apparently is curable from when I read. It is curable. If you catch it early and you can control it. So what are the symptoms? Shortness of breath fatigue. Dems. Those every day. That's all the same cove nine I always have a rash. The main thing is fatigue, which I'm always tired, so I could have any number of diseases like the number one thing of any disease. You're tired. I'm always you have low iron. Low Iron I probably do, but teague commits with likes it. My lymph nodes are always inflamed from other things allergies. I mean. I'm dying right now and I don't even know anyway well, you know. Why do know it? Yeah and I knew at the moment I pull. That ticket was my come to Jesus Moment Eric I. saw you working out this morning. I was without you Fabio La there. Wasn't fat Beulah I. Know I've seen her I have half. We saw yeah. was on a few weeks ago. Talking about. Quarantine fitness yes. I couldn't hear nothing about because. Internet on her phone. We could going now barbecue and her backyard so. We. See Her. We could definitely see her. We saw her and her boobs. That's it. That's the way we're just frozen the whole time. But so why didn't you call Fab Ila? Away we had jammer nothing like that and well. The girl that I worked out with. She's a person on training or anything She is a She is a model. She is a coin. She's a commercial model. Marsala a really go ahead do. I met her in my shot. She's very pretty. It'd be like what's a walk to remember I'm going to be Mandy Moore dying of this Tig. Yeah Yeah. Shoe shot. They're going to play that song. Always relearn. So. She came to. Rit class actually on zoom so I do acting class on zoom and G.. M.! Whenever you I interested in the class. You know you audit class. Basically you know you sit there and observe it and you see if you want to join or whatever, so she joined during Cova Nineteen. Nobody met her in person. We are her through zoom. So two two weeks two Fridays ago I finally met her in person but. Like I think it was like two weeks in after she actually joined his in class. mean her his hit it off like. we're talking mess just like. County no joking around about stuff. and then she goes we'll we matt initially Valero. Apartment I live. Lacy Wes and I. WE HAVE JIM apartment. What apartment number? I, I can't say okay so so she ever workout GonNa. Work you out like you'RE GONNA be tired knows like. A workout whatever. So whenever this morning The Gym was locked so shoot. Okay well. How different plan so WE DO? This thing called a garage workout so at her apartment complex It's a parking garage and it's five levels so basically. Every time we hit a allegation part we sprint up and then after that we walk to the next elevation, partners sprint up again only five the five floors. I was I mean yeah, I was really tired. You didn't do any like warm up or anything right? Like yeah, we but I mean as far as you haven't been doing anything like cardio like that. No, not that not the other widening right out walking doing home workout, but the homework out stuff. Is Nothing compared what you did to me. Like after that I was like Oh my gosh, we do that twice and I was I guess. US Like yes again! And anyways after that she next year. We're GONNA do is cycling. Got That's what killed me so van. We'd cycling. She turn up the resistance like all area and I'm like. I'm not even UCLA. So like a little over halfway through. I had to stop because I find a throw up and then she's all like okay. We'll use a stop in your ticket. Breath away while and whatever so Ellington minutes And this after that we did wait to did back and shoulders. What what it was! If. You thought about getting if because obviously if you're that. Tired after doing a bike workout, maybe you should do that more. Yeah. What have you thought about doing like buying Peleton and doing like a subscription to that? Doesn't have a Erica's have a rain twelve thousand dollars just sitting around. It cost. Crazy. I thought about getting one. Because when I think of like exercise I think things to do inside not a real bike Brian. I'm not crazy. I'm not going to ride around in a real bike. Be Around people and you know share the road but I'd like to do something in my house where I can virtually move around. Have you have you done cycle? And before not like that like a class, but I've done the bikes and stuff. Yeah, Oh, I mean that thing like kick. My ass I was like I thought I thought it was like you know a very like. Joke workout? No, I'm like. Elliptical private kill you. Have you been on Elliptical Isn't that where you do this or whatever? Yeah! I did never did anything funny. Thing is on the zoom. You could only see one of his hands. Looked very different than what he was trying to surprise, right? There it is, it's like. I don't know probably. Cycling again just because it's so like intense yes oh. But yeah, no, that's. I did this morning and Yeah it was fine. I running in a more a which is like mostly walking. And their, why do I see all the time. WHO's a very serious UNICYCLISTS. Okay UNICYCLISTS. I see in one's UNICYCLES everywhere just A. But. It's usually lake hipsters. Moving around, but this guy wears like a full bike outfit like a helmet like the SPANDEX. Various serious like. Do. You ever see anybody. In new, Orleans drought, riding the old tiny bike with the big wheel. and. So is that a Lotta hipsters in new I've never been to New Orleans. It's like. Have you been to Brooklyn? No, okay? Another stereotype Brooklyn do. It's like. It's the people and Brooklyn. Had No money in no sense of Lake. Societal norms. Okay I know two women would beards like full beards, yeah? I know you're friends with them. peripherally, how do they grow the beards? They just don't shave like it's already. Yeah well. When I when I grow veered right, sure. Yeah, it's only half the people on this call going to get this, but it's one hudson beard basically Oh, yeah. But we. How do you per Lou peripherally? Know Somebody. Like you saw him in the perfect. The you just know them from like a side glance. See. Okay. To either a conversation with them. Probably like you squint your eyes it. Nice to meet you all day, yeah! Great, staff, I remember stash. That's cool. I always wanted to go. I was supposed to I was supposed to go to a wedding down there for a friend, and then I had something else to go to Chicago. Instead and then Sarah out an invite just like hey, I've got these funny things around that I I live next to. It'd be cool to do bid for that type. To film all the time. Yeah, so we might have to do that after cove. Obviously, I WANNA survive. This tick bite. What else are you doing over? There Sarah anything interesting. Are you writing? A UNICYCLE are going to be at yes. The beard is coming in nicely by the way. Are You missing Dallas at all or no I mean I miss people right? And, sometimes I miss like New Orleans is very anti. Big chains like there's not a target and Walmart and so really yeah, within the city like you have to go to the suburbs. Until? It's very cool. Every time I buy something. It's like from a smaller business. However. There are times where I'm like I'm not trying to do that today. Right you. You want to get an actual name-brand swifter duster, not not this wish version that the mom and POPs are selling. Yeah, you're coming in town possibly next month. I think so. How sit for Someone Aka user up. Yeah, we do come by and check out the studio and then maybe we're back at that time. You jump in, and we can see you in real life. Yeah sounds good shape your real right, but I'm glad you're doing well. I'm glad you're staying safe. You're still cova free. I. Am Mine well. You know I do what I can. I have it so you guys don't have to get it on being an example so. We, Miss Having you. See some of the greatest bits we ever did when you were on the show. Some curls that year. What are the funniest ones? This was once? She was technically involved in, but when the funniest was when we first met her was the when she was coming on as an intern. Like Eric had a mike and he went out and met her we had. We didn't even know who she was nothing about her. He goes out music like hey. A Michael is a varia. Would you say he was very eccentric and yeah, you know he he wants to be. Don't look at them in the eye, and he likes to be called Mr Zavala and he's. He's short, so he's kind of a Napoleon conscious. So. Give them compliments, and so he was teaching this whole prep, and then we bring her in, and she does everything basically on the checklist which I thought was, but then she comes out. She's like it was like a normal guy. This guy's the weird. It was so, and then after that though she wrote a lot of great beds, said a lot of that stuff with Bryce when we did A. Does this make you feel you had a lot of games? It's always when when she was. She brought to energy to the show, so we more than Clark has brought by the way. Sorry I was I swam like three quarters of a mile before this call so. Am I. Jim, you back at the gym. Yeah. They'd have been back for since It might open three weeks ago down twenty five pounds since Kobe, so. Eat that man you, it's might have you read the contest. You WanNa give spider run for his money, but he was still at of one. I gained thirty and now down about twenty five, so I'm hovering at about two eight now. What does this like? We always talked about that. You're not going to beat anyone on. What's the? Well. That's the whole point I'm trying to get laid again. By himself. That's all that it is won't fall oats. Only damn thing I can brag about now. We're going to change dot org for his. Hopefully somebody will. We'll put the bat symbol out there for you all right. Good deal good deal. Symbol. Long as as long as it's double ended. All right on that note. Positive. For families. Thank you so good to see you again and stay safe. We'll see when you're in town. This is M, Z now online at Z now dot TV like us on facebook at facebook dot com forward slash MC now.

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"On the hbo series hacks the great. Jean smart plays a legendary stand up. Comic whose longtime biggest residency is threatened by a casino owner looking for some fresh blood. Hannah i'm binder plays a promising young comedy writer who's fallen on hard times rushing louis very grudgingly. Two women start working together arguing incessantly but somewhere in among the barbs they're always trading something like mutual respect begins to emerge which may just help to bridge the yawning generational divide between their respective approaches to comedy. I'm glen weldon. And they were talking about hacks on pop culture. Happy hour from npr said. Don't go away. An officer pens a sixteen year old to the ground and punches out his teeth. But are there any consequences for the cup for the first time we take you inside the secret investigations that show how police protections in california shield officers from accountability. Listen to on our watch a podcast from npr and take you e. d. Welcome back joining me from her home in washington. Dc is npr political reporter. Danielle kurtz laden. Welcome back. Danielle thank you. I'm always happy to be here. We're always happy to have you on hacks. Jean smart plays veteran. Comic deborah vance. Who's clearly modeled on joan rivers. Maybe a little rita redner in there as well. She's considered a living legend and could easily retire. But you keep plugging away taking any gig. She can hannah. I'm binder is a comedy writer who can't get a job in l. a. Because she tweeted a joke. That caused a backlash. Abbas manager sends her to write jokes. Deborah and it's not a good match at first eva fines. Deborah's comedy about sex and aging tired outdated and at times offensive while. Deborah is mystified by eva's younger more conceptual jokes about things like millennial social anxiety sexting but they both love comedy and they're both women in a male dominated industry which is something that comes up often on the show so it's maybe not surprising that hacks was created by some of the folks behind the much missed broad city danielle. How you like an axe. Broadly speaking well broadly speaking. I know i know my god. I look in general. I really like this. It's hard not to like it's damn near impossible. Not to like i mean jean. Smart is so good. It's like the role was written for her. I think you alluded to this. In your view. It feels so natural. She is fantastic as an over the top all sequence all the time very much comfortable in her skin older comedian who has been doing this for forever and also hannah. I'm binder as eva. The younger comedy writer is very good. You i can feel her anxiety. She is very pointy. She is not often that pleasant to be around but just pleasant enough that you want her to succeed. I mean so broadly speaking. It's great there are so many good touches The overt godliness of deborah there. It's in the sequence but also she has a soda fountain in her kitchen. That just really stuck out to be you know. And she knows how to replace the co two cartridge. That's that's very detail absolutely like she knows what she wants. And by god's she'll do it herself you know look. There are so many small touches. The fact that deborah is going to be replaced by pentatonic pentatonic. Kind of mystifying. When you really listen to them but there is one very overarching thing. That does drive me a little crazy. Thus far we have you. And i have access to eight episodes thus far and it's the show is about eva coming in and helping deborah come up with new material and thus far we haven't heard it. We hear a few of his jokes. I know our colleague linda. Holmes tweeted about this and. I was just nodding in agreement at her tweet about how. The show hasn't quite convinced me that eva is a good comedy writer. We've heard about. She had a tweet thread about lexa. Pro anything for me. Yes so i once did a twenty five tweet thread from the perspective of my legs. A pro and it did really well. So i'm thinking what if you do something from the perspective of pizza ingredients you know like what if the cheese and pepperoni have history. What or i don't know. Toss the dough in the air. Tried to get into land on your head. Great that's a very gen z. Millennial joke you could envision it being funny there's a joke at one point. I had a nightmare. That i got a voicemail like yes very gen. Z millennial joke. I dig it. There's a lot of talking about comedy and there's not enough comedy from her. So i'm i'm very curious to see what comes in the final couple of episodes. Yeah me too me too. I mean i'm all in on this. Show i i wasn't i. The premise had me very worried. Because you can imagine had going one or two ways i mean there was a bit sharper more caustic and maybe even a little bit more joke dense. It could have been told from either one of their points of view. And you can envision this show where it's like if it's told from his point of view denver's comedy is so happy and out of touch and insular that that's the entire joke of the show or it's told from deborah's point of view and this is what i was really dreading and the whole show is just an excuse to roll your eyes at millennials and gen z with their vaping. They're toast and their sexting. But the reason. I think the shows working so well from us because it's balancing these two points of view it's important. I think that they're both kind of write about each other. I mean never is out of touch. Abe is entitled and she is at least at this stage which i hope is just the first season of many more conceptual than funny right but they are working on each other and i think the other thing that's about. The show is from the premise. We know they're going to come to mutual respect but the show smart enough to know that that's not going to be smooth journey that there's going to be fits and starts is going to be setbacks and these arguments that they always have our punctuating it that journey so i know where it's going but i'm on board to get there right and i think the one thing i would add to what you're saying you're absolutely right that yes it's not putting us firmly endeavors camp or firmly in avis camp. But that sort of gets at how the big capital i that are embedded in the show are not overtly got net. This is not an aaron sorkin show where anybody monologues about feminism. Instead you have an older woman and a much younger woman. I don't know if you'd call it. Second and fourth wave but holder younger woman sort of critiquing each other's viewpoints of the world as women but never wants to hear them talk about capital. Fm nissim you know or about cancellation. For example eva gets booted off of her writing gig because she wrote a nasty tweet that we hear about. I know we'll get to that but they don't talk about cancel culture and thank god for that because it would just deflate the whole thing. That was the thing as soon as you find out that it was canceled. Because of a tweet i thought. Oh jeez. don't go here yet. At least in this beginning and you mentioned aaron sorkin he was gonna come up because there is a thing all the studio sixty problem look. Comedy about. Comedy is hard to do and The studio sixty problem is named for aaron sorkin 's show studio sixty on the sunset strip that held itself up as it kind of you know what goes on behind the scenes at a show like now but every time you saw an actual sketch from that show within a show. You're like no. He would laugh at this or at least like he do a comedy sketch. That is like an extended gilbert and sullivan. Can you be like this is supposed to be network. Tv do not the hasty pudding show. what are you doing. I say it's more important. That deborah's material is believable as opposed to actually being funny to me because it has to slot in that niche. There's an edge to it but it's the kind of soft edge that would pack in the tourists right now. The guys on top of me and added t shirts because it's breasts than mine. And i told him that was jealous so anyway. The dummies asking me questions. You close close. I'm close. I'm close to get a bus flannel shirt and finally accepting melissa ethridge. Is you have to believe deborah herself as naturally funny but you also have to believe that. She's coasting because of course she would because you're in a business that long you know you're sure bets you know you go to jokes and there is no incentive to experiment because why would you absolutely. I totally agree. Deborah's comedy feels like comedy of a certain era the sort of aging by right men in my right which is maybe being a little too mean but that sort of observational thing. Whereas what's comedy. Tell me more about what her jam is. Yeah well i liked it. There shows a little harder on eva. I liked her version of what happened to her. Isn't actually what happened to her. Like she believes he was just being real. And i was so grateful when deborah pointed out like in the scene that that really sold me on the show. This is in the pilot. The joke is not funny. That's the problem and when they worked together to punch it up. There's a really interesting tension in that scene. Because it was convinced the crystalline debra says first. Deborah says look there is no line funniest funny which that generation of comic would legit believe. There is no line funniest funny. Pc police all you woke people but as she starts to actually punch up the joke which is about a closeted senator who is hypocrites. Sending his son to his gaze onto conversion therapy. She fires off a couple about the sun and then immediately pulls back course correct herself and says no keep it on the dad senate rogers has been in the closet so long his wife keeps trying to donate them to goodwill to be clear these are all problematical. What if it's something like senator. Roger has been in the closet so long friends. her mom falls. Senator rogers has been in the closet. So long balls yes. That's it so though. She has the capacity to punch down. Her instincts are to punch up. And that's something important about the tension. This is where these two characters kind of meat. And i hope it keeps going on. Yes that scene in particular though kind of gets at one area where you and i do disagree a little. The whole idea of eva being cancelled and what she was canceled. Four again. Not the word that use. I believe in your view. The wording you use is that in no world would be canceled for that joke. And the whole. Ap blow up last week over the sure young reporter and her past activism about israel and palestine has shown that there are mobs on the internet that come after you for things. You wouldn't have imagined absolutely good point. All sorts of things can get you in trouble for all sorts of reasons journalist on twitter. You are too. We both know this. But that scene. I think you and i saw it a little differently. Because they're going back and forth about what's the joke. What's the joke. And the thing that they land on as the joke. I found myself going. That's joke that's not funny either. What are you guys doing. I was totally cool with it. Because it's like the joke gets better. It doesn't kiss good. that's true. Yeah it does give them room to improve with each other which is kind of the point of the whole series anyway but also gets back to. When do we see the improvement. I don't know it seems like it's coming. You can feel it coming. i can see it coming. I don't want it to come too soon. And i don't want to come to wrapped in a bow it needs to be spiky and uneven at needs to kind of get there in kind of slapdash way because it's work right at their workshop jokes they are punching up jokes that is process of back and forth. It's not just here's joke was handed down to me from on high. I like the entire world of this show like the world around. Deborah and i love that these great characters come in and they get an extra later play with when we first meet caitlyn olson as deborah's daughter. Dj that is a theoretically a one joke character but she gets time to round out a little bit later episode. Yeah she's fantastic and kara clemens hopkins as marcus who's kind of resistant but is actually her. Ceo he gets stuff to do. We've seen that role before. Certainly as the uptight guy but we get to see his mom we get you know he gets to hook up. We learned that he's got a real estate side hustle and even a character like kike blackjack dealer played by poppy lou when you first meter. She's so Peppy and happy that you think it's just going to be that and it is but i- legit believe that vegas attracts vat person that that person is about executive vegas. There's not a weak link in this cast right well in this also gets to me the other thing about the show that on the surface level. Yes it's about comedy it's about different generations coming to an understanding and all of that i wouldn't quite put it in the ted laso fund and squishy and happy times for everyone can't but it had a sort of maybe judd appetite sensibility in that on one hand. Yes it's about being funny about jokes but there is a soft and squishy center. It's so much about relationships right about the boundaries that people put up to the relationships they could have with each other. There is a really lovely and complicated almost romance but not quite between deborah and the casino owner who was trying to boot her out and every scene with them. I felt the kind of moved by these two together. They love and hate each other also deborah and her daughter the weird love not even hate but like the way the wanting the best for someone can come out in a really stunted and even mean way a mother and a daughter. There's so many lovely touches to this show on that level that you think so absolutely. And that's i mean. Usually i i want something a little bit more joke dense a little bit more sharp but you know. Look jean smart. I think this is the broad city influence where big dumb jokes but a real meaningful connection between characters that the economically hook into an. And that's why you keep coming back. It's back. I feel like i just keep an and ending to you. But there's just so much you agree with where there's a scene towards the beginning when eva first meets deborah and ends up just saying i don't need this job and hurling insults at debra. You can see. Jean smart being sort of indignant but also you see her on her face. She respects her also. Like oh that. That was kind of funny insult. I i'm i'm here for that. And you can see the respect growing by just micrometres. It's really lovely to see. This is such a fun show. I hope it goes on forever. I don't say that about a lot of shows. But i just want to hang out with jean smart of whom i what am i. Yeah i got two heart. We want to know what you think about. Hacks find us at facebook dot com slash p. c. h. and on twitter at p. c. h. 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The Road Less Traveled

HISTORY This Week

28:31 min | 2 months ago

The Road Less Traveled

"The history channel original podcast. Hey there sally here before we get started. We have a little something special for you. August is going to be arts and culture month here at history this week. That means every week in august we are exploring important moments in literature poetry painting and winnie the pooh. We'll talk about the joke at the center of robert frost's legacy aband- of pop music pirates. The mona lisa's heist. And yes the birth of winnie the pooh so. Check out arts and culture month on history. This week every monday. In august now onto the show history this week. August second nineteen fifteen. I'm sally home. The poem appears in print for the first time this week from louisville kentucky to york pennsylvania to wrestling vermont and every reader in every place is transported to the same leafy path two roads diverged in a yellow wood. And sorry i could not travel and traveler long. I stood and looked down one. As far as i could to where bent in the undergrowth and took the other as fair and having perhaps the better claim because it was grassy and wanted where though as for that the passing their had worn them really about the same and both morning equally lay in leaves no step had trodden black. All i kept the first for another day. Get knowing how way leads onto way. I doubt if i should ever come back. I shall be telling this with a size somewhere. Ages and ages hence two roads diverged in a wood and i i took the one less traveled by and that has made all the difference in that first week of august nineteen fifteen readers get introduced to the road taken by robert frost. It is an immediate hit and it will go on to become one of the most popular and well known poems in american history for many. It is about a spirit of individualism. Forging your own path and yet robert frost himself may have had something completely different in mind. It's generally speaking the most misunderstood palm in the history of american literature today the road not taken what or who inspired frost to rate this iconic poem. And what does it really saying about making a choice if you're looking for the next best thing to invest in try investing in your long term health with forward forward is intelligent medicine with a personal touch. Their doctors are dedicated to catching top killers. Like cancer and heart disease early which could save you. Tens of thousands of dollars in the long run so invest in doctor. That's invested in you. Visit go forward dot com to learn more about how forward can help you manage your long term health risks for one flat monthly fee. That's go forward dot com. This episode is supported by thought works. Listen up techies thought works. A global technology consultancy is hiring senior and lead developers data engineers infrastructure consultants and more to join them in roles across the us thought. Works believes in being an awesome partner to their clients. Revolutionizing the tech industry amplifying advocating for social change fostering a vibrant community of technologists and achieving enduring success and growth at thought works. They challenged curious minds to make a real impact. Get to know them and discover how you can make your mark in tech. Learn more and apply at thought works dot com slash careers. The road not taken is taught in high school classrooms in university seminars. It's been read at many graduation. It provides the title for among other things a melissa ethridge album a self help book and a video game. It's even in this two thousand eight ford commercial that aired in new zealand derives diverged in the la. Would you sorry. I could not travel by be one travel. The narrator reads this poem in full over visuals of a young man. Doing things like picking up hitchhiker or walking along a rainy rogue while biting into a crust pizza this is a poem that was published in nineteen fifteen being used almost a century later to sell cars. One way to think about the popularity of the poem is to think about the strange places that it appears places that you would never expect a poem to appear. That's david or he's an english professor at rutgers university and a poet himself he wrote about this commercial and about the many other places that this poem pops up in his book which is called the road not taken finding america in the poem. Everyone loves and almost everyone gets wrong. Was interesting about the commercials. Poems not identified robert. Frost is now identified. It's just assumed that this audience of people in new zealand will know this and there. There's so few things. Well so few poems things in general you could say something like that about the well. Not taken is everywhere. Jay parini i read it as a ninth grader. And then it showed up again. The following year in his english class my tenth grade english teacher actually was teaching this song and she had a copy of the last lines to roads that virgina wooden i took the road less traveled by and that made all the difference written out in her very fine handwriting frame behind glass and it was behind her desk. Greenie is now an english professor at middlebury college. A poet author of the biography robert frost a life and a general robert frost. Superfan sometimes even finds himself speaking like frost. Once my wife said to me. I was talking in bed one night. She said jay. I hate to put this to you bluntly but you are not robert frost man. How'd you take. I didn't take it back in that tenth grade classroom. Arenas teacher told him what this famous frost poem meant. She said class pay attention to this pond. It's got a message you need to pay attention to. You've got to be your own man is they. Say now in the sixties you've got to do your own thing and that is the standard interpretation of the palm. I would say that ninety percent. Maybe ninety nine percent of americans think this is upon telling readers to find the road less traveled into. Go down that road for good in your life by the nineteen sixties when parini is sitting in this english classroom. Robert frost is a major celebrity. He has won the congressional gold medal for his poetry. He was cited poem at john. F kennedy's inauguration as professor david. Or put it. If you had like a mount rushmore of american poetry that would be the very first face the granite face of robert frost frost poems are written in clear accessible language. He's not seen as an elitist in the popular imagination. Frost is this rural farmer. Poet who goes out and works in field or hands animals and then goes into writes a poem which is sort of right. I mean he did actually farm. It's not that's not a fiction. Glad his farming career was maybe five or six years of fairly indifferent chicken farming but he does have a real connection to that world and he comes to be closely associated with the particular region where he and his wife were raising those chickens. Professor parini told us vermont. new hampshire's recorded all the micro seasons by robert frost. He stood in that country north of boston. This imaginary territory. Bland paper birches bending left and right or hem locks with snow on them. But there's a lot about frosts life that doesn't make it into the popular image like although people sometimes think of him. As a new england poet he was actually born in san francisco and while many read his poems as cheerful little ditties about a nice rural life. I'd say most of his great palms are palms of self doubt poems of existential anguish homes of darkness. Robert frost was actually a very. He was very depressed guy. I mean he would spend six weeks with the all of the curtains drawn staying in his bedroom and never going outside. These were in his depressive phases. Then when he was in his manic phases he'd go walking through the woods through the night sometimes twelve hours at a time. Most people don't know that frost led a tragic life. You know very few children made it happily adulthood. He had a very unhappy marriage to his wife. Eleanor on her deathbed she. She barred the door and said to the doctor. Don't let him into my bedroom. Process was jealous of other poets. I think a lot of major poets wish that they were the only one in the world that every other was dead and frost was like that you know he was terribly jealous and in his early career. Frost had a lot to be jealous of although those years on. The farm were relatively happy ones by his late thirties. It only published half a dozen palms and in very obscure places. His first poems were published not in poetry magazine but in poultry magazine chickens so frost was you know basically the most obscure poet in the universe when he took his family off sold the chicken farm in the age of thirty eight or so moved moved to england try and do a poetic reset in nineteen twelve. He moves his family to london in hopes that he might find more literary success in england and almost immediately. He has a stroke of luck. The wasn't very long living outside of london when he was introduced to ezra pound and compound who was the kind of major domo the kind of master of ceremonies of modernism said. Let me see your work. Robert and robert frost brought him a whole bunch of his poems. And ezra pound said. You're a genius. This is a whole new voice in in american literature pound introduces frost to a small publisher who agrees to publish. Two books of his poems. Boys will and north of boston which is his many ways. Greatest book eighteen calms foster is just about forty and finally getting some attention and pretty soon. His book makes it into the hands of a successful british critic a few years younger than he is. A man parini describes as movie star handsome. Edward thomas edward. Thomas had published twenty books by that time twenty books. It was immensely prolific. He made his living as he considered himself a hack writer. He reviewed books he. He meditated on the english countryside. He'd write about any subject. He could anything to make some money but he'd never written one poem even though he loved poetry and he came to love frost's poems in particular. The two men meet through the literary scene and they become good friends. They have a lot in common for one thing thomas to suffered from depression and like frost. He would go on walks to manage his moods. I think this is actually what they had. In common being. Edward thomas would go off often for two months at a time walking in the countryside leaving his wife look after the children months two months it makes frosts twelve hour walks look downright short when the english go for a walk. They go for a walk. I spent ten years in england. And when i always terrified when somebody said would you like a walk like we're going to be working to be gone for days. Frost loved the long walks. And he and thomas both also loved to talk and so when you take. Two walkers put together to talkers and especially frost frost. Let's go on our talking walks. We call them are talking walks in the quiet of the english countryside. They'd discuss poetry philosophy politics and they'd come to a point where frost would say. Here's the here's the way it should be and it were. Thomas will say well. I don't know maybe it should be this other way by. I don't know maybe you're right. The two men were similar in so many ways. But this was a major difference thomas. He was the most indecisive man. In the universe's frost quickly discerned on the other hand. Ross was i would say pretty damn decisive. When he made up many he is. He's probably just normal. Being would make decisions sometimes. They were not great decisions and then he would change his mind again but he was nothing like edward thomas who is nothing if not a master of indecision and this difference between them. That was rea- fide in the most concrete. Way when they'd come to these as you do when you're going for walks endless forks in the road and edward. Thomas never knew which one they should take and and so he'd say they'd find them make a decision to go down one road and thomas kept saying you know. I really think that was a mistake. We should've taken the other road and frost thought. This was rather hilarious. He teased his friend about his indecisiveness and his small regrets. The two of them got incredibly close in their long walks and talks. They developed such a friendship that they made a plan that edward. thomas said. We're gonna move with you to the white mountains of of new hampshire and it will become farmers and teachers poets together but in the late summer of nineteen fourteen. The two men get some news that throws a wrench in those plans. They were sitting on a little turnstile in little edens and gloucestershire. When a man went by with a newspaper and said war declared england is at war world. War one has just broken out and they both were very annoyed by this and thought it was foolish and distance saying the united states is so far maintaining its neutrality. And the idea of moving back there is becoming more and more real for frost. He misses new england. His family is running low on money. Plus one of his books is about to be published in the us which is going to change things more than he knows. Frost had no idea what effect it would have. He didn't realize that he would be claimed as a very important poet almost instantaneously last summer. Sleep kept a sane through the silence. This summer you're going to need sleep to get over all of this. That's why it's the perfect time to upgrade to a nectar mattress and get award-winning precision. Engineered sleep at incredible value. Prices start at just four hundred ninety nine dollars and you get three hundred ninety nine dollars accessories thrown in a hundred sixty five nine home trial and a forever warranty go to nectar sleep dot com in february of nineteen fifteen frost and his family take an ocean liner from liverpool back to new york when they arrive. Frost characteristically goes for a walk. He finds himself on forty second street. And he went up to a newsstand. Any happen to see in the newsstand. The new republic he opened it flips to the reviews and sees a review of his own book and it said america has a new voice in poetry robert frost. He was startled and the truth is from that moment on. Frost was a well-known poet and his reputation was like a snowball gathering gathering gathering gathering. People are reading his poems. Quoting them to each other. Frost is enjoying his newfound success. And he's also continuing to right. We don't know exactly when but at some point between nineteen fourteen and nineteen fifteen. He gets the idea for a new poem though number. One of his letters he said or notebooks he says i just heard a voice to rose diverged the yellow wood and then it just flowed from there just naturally because he was a poet used to thinking in these ways and he developed that imagery of the two roads two roads diverged in a yellow wood. And sorry i could travel both and be one traveller long. I stood and looked down. One as far as i could to wear bent in the undergrowth. That's professor david oregon. He told us. Frost was thinking of those walks with edward thomas in the british countryside when he'd be standing at a crossroads so torn about which path to take then took the other as just as fair and having perhaps the better claim because it was grasping at wanted. Where though as for that passing their had warned them. Really about the same. If you listen for it you can start to hear an indecisive mind at work perhaps the better claim but no then again really. The two paths are about the same. They both thought morning equally. Lay then you can hear the speaker interrupt. His own train of thought with an exclamation. Oh i kept the first for another day. He thinks oh come back. But then align later yet knowing. How way leads onto way. I doubted if i should ever come back okay. So maybe he won't as frost tells it. He wrote the poem as a bit of a portrait of thomas. An affectionate joking portrait. Not not a mean portrait as somewhat indecisive figure who couldn't really make up his mind about what to do in the spring of nineteen fifteen. Frost has a completed draft of the poem then called to roads frost. I sent to thomas and just the poem nothing else. No clarifying tax no letter just the poem by itself. Thomas reads it and response. He apparently referred to always being staggering so then frost responded to that letter setting. Could you say a little bit more about this poem clearly hoping that thomas would connect the palm to himself but in thomas's response it's clear to frost that he still doesn't see it's about him so that frost writes back and we're now at r v letter june twenty six nineteen fifteen and he says me thinks thou strike too hard and so small a matter. A tap would have settled my poem basically. You're taking this poem too seriously. There's some fun to it that you're missing in his letter. Frost references the cy in the famous last stanza. He says quote. The side was a mock. Cy here's the passage. I shall be telling this with a sigh. Somewhere ages and ages hence two roads diverged in a wood and i. I took the one less traveled by and that has made all the difference. The end of the poem feels assert. It feels affirmative. You know it feels like the idea. Is we take these challenging paths so we end up being unique person that we are. It feels that but if you actually look at the palm. It's not the most notable thing that people seem to miss is the fact that the choice is a bit of an illusion remember. Frost said in those earlier lines that in some ways the paths. Were really about the same. Both that morning equally lay and leaves no step had trodden black. So what he's saying is it's kinda hard to tell one from the other and once you realize what he's saying in the last stanza takes on a very different meaning what he's really telling. You is sometime in the future. I will tell a story about this decision that will be essentially a false story. I will be saying. I did things for this reason but really i didn't even know it was almost an operation of chance so in that sense of home could be seen as being about the self deceptions that we create to explain our lives. This wasn't such a big important choice after all frost is poking fun at his friend for obsessing over every decision when thomas writes back it seems that he's starting to get frosts intention but it took awhile six letters and bear in mind again. Edward thomas was one of the best readers of his day. So it's hardly surprising that audiences ever since have been baffled on his own soon after this last exchange indecisive edward thomas makes a very serious choice. He decides to enlist in the army. Here's professor jay parini. I think that they say nineteen fourteen. Fifteen and were thomas kind of reached a some kind of emotional limit and he thought that going into the war would somehow liberate him would be a passage that would be you know defining he would finally make choice for frost was a terrible blow. Frost thought it was foolishness around the time that thomas goes off to war this poem now titled the road not taken is published to great acclaim. Was one of the frost. Few poems that early on found a wide readership found itself being endlessly quoted. And i think it's because it had that homey ending. I took the road less traveled by in that they'd all the difference that stays with people and it's sort of was significant in their lives and so it seemed teach them something they love the wisdom of that even though they got wrong wrong in that they're not focusing on the fact that the pads are the same. They're taking the whole thing seriously. The way thomas did now. Frost was a great poet and so it is almost certain that he knew this poem would be read the way it was. It's in frost from the beginning. Was that desire not to be read clearly by too. Many people cross had a belief that there was a deep core of meaning in his work which there is but to get at it yet. They moved through layers and layers. Here's how professor david or put it. This is a poem that puts on the costume of upon. That is about individualism in the triumphs of individualism and it puts on the costume so successfully that the costume becomes a part of it and away. There is no real home. There's different faces of the palm and some of them are more persuasive than others. Some of the faces are are drawn in greater detail than others but no one of them really completely dominates parini told us that's part of what makes this such a rich poem when you can keep returning to. Every time i read the poem. Frankly i feel like. I've got a whole new sense of it every single time. I read the poem. And i've read probably a thousand times and over and over and every time it means something different to me. Parini told us in our interview. He thought of the poem just the other day that was walking in the woods. And i stepped on some old dead leaves and i look back in my steps were black and i thought oh my god there there you go just think i'm both that morning equally. Lay in leaves no step had trodden black. I thought oh my god. Frost is such an immediate observer of everything around him and everything takes on meaning. Yeah that's so interesting. You're right i'm thinking about the black and leaves now and i'm like oh right. It could be almost a dark image like the sort of something pristine turned trodden and it's comforting one. It's like oh there's been company along this road before like there is so much to think of it. Does those those are two very different meanings but parallel meetings. And they're both mean. Frost was big on the idea that you know you should be able to hold more than two or three potentially opposite things in your head at the same time in that last. Dance at greenside. Frost wasn't just poking fun at his friends indecision. I will telling this with a sigh somewhere. Ages and ages. Hence you know that's you know that's the sigh of regret it. It's also a bit of a humorous side too. I think frost was able to forgive himself and in ways that were thomas. Couldn't and i was thinking hussein. Thomas look you'll make choices and then you'll come to regret the choices but give yourself a break. Be forgiving to your younger self or your cell your middle aged self. You know you're gonna make wrong choices all the time we all do but you live with a learn to flow you know. Move along with. Edward thomas's big choice to go to war ends in tragedy. He dies in battle on easter monday. Nineteen seventeen frost is devastated. This was the the best friend frost ever had in his whole life. He never had another friend. Like edward thomas reading the road not taken in the wake of that tragedy. The last stanza takes on new meaning yet again. Thomas has choice. Did make all the difference. Of course he didn't know when he enlisted that he would end up killed. He might just as easily have ended up a war hero. We can't know when we're presented with this bifurcation in the woods. What road will lead one way. What road will lead another way. It's only in retrospect that we have any idea what our choices meant to us cloud. I could not travel be proud rocking that grow. That's robert frost reading the poem at middlebury college in nineteen fifty three. This is true. I travelled by plane all. Thanks for listening to history this week for more moments throughout history that are also worth watching. Check your local tv listings to find out. What's on the history channel today. this episode was produced. By julie mcgruder history. 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The Incredible Author and Award Winning Publicist Eileen Shapiro!

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The Incredible Author and Award Winning Publicist Eileen Shapiro!

"Mark don't we have on the show. Wake up good morning on this morning. Show fans listeners. Viewers here with my co host dakota and we have demo special guest. We have had on this morning show because this is not only just an amazing and wonderful lady. Yeah she she has been our publicist a like pr agent helping us get these other incredible guests that you've seen on our show and she is basically the real brains behind the mindlessness. Everybody welcome eileen shapiro alot. How you doing great. So and i guess i should kind of go down this long list here of credentials of what an amazing like ryder you are. Because you do for over fifty publications. You're the best rockstar. Journalists basically like you got it all starting to really like you guys believe me. We love you know yet but he loves wall. I mean this today was kind of the first utterly did in thing josh was telling me about it and i started looking into a more. Like yoshi seems so cool. You're gonna love being academic any choice. I'm ready for it. How did you into all the other writing and what you did like this is like riding as a kid or hated it. It was really an accident. So i used to be a star trek fan and i was quoted nursing school and in order to study i i always had to have the tv on and they were doing reruns of star trek k. And i had spangled crush leading nimoy. Spock i'm not sure which one but one of them store in the city called federation trading post. So i found it and the ona he was he was actually edited. The editor for magazine called the star trek giant post. The book and we started talking and we became friends. And i started whitey for it and then Paramount ballantine books said listen. We need a star trek medical reference manual. And since i was the only one that had any medical knowledge by the way it was like i she and their student. I got the right. So that's really how it started. How it's so cool really cool are you are. You're clearly content with the transition from nursing school to to publicize bad ass right. Yeah well i nurse for three minutes. And i really you know what your parents say. You have to go to college right so this little college polityka profession. I'm so nursing. Schools that you know but i i hated it i like i said i did it for three minutes and i was done. I mean that. That's a shame. But i mean nursing is definitely a very demanding job and i don't know that you would have had many celebrities. Just sit in on the beds nursing beds like to take back so it has definitely been a lot cooler for you now. Have you always been like a rocker chick or is this something. That kind of came along i was. I was going to concerts. Time i was. Maybe i don't know seven eight years old. I dragged my grandmother. My great grandmother actually race. I want to see this concert. She would take me so the rocky. Oh that's what your first concert was my first concert. Maybe stepping wolves two is so we know you make it pretty noon. That adam ant is your favorite thoughtfully and where. Where does that stem from. What like what makes him your favorite. You know what. I don't know 'cause i really don't like this musical. That much wasn't expecting that. Answer the thing. Is you know when when you're kind of growing up and hanging out in the eighties. I mean he was all over the place and then he disappeared and it was the i think it was the intrigue liquidity go and then older suddenly reappeared and i was like yes but there were three of them. I like rick springfield ahead. A bucket list rick springfield letterman and billy idol. An extra alice cooper too. But and i want meeting every one of them but i don't know just like a place in my heart friend because i know him. You know madame hung out with them. Interviewed him like how. How is it real life. In comparison to like his his stage is stage presence. He's amazing he's a very gentle kind man and he is Really smart really smart. And he just he does. He goes above and beyond like their fans can't afford concerts. he just lets him in. I mean he's cool that lawson who is everything everything you hoped to the more right that that's a solid individual and i give good os to any artists that are like that. Because that's that's cool. You know you always get some of those artists that are like oh no you have to pay this ad the other Obviously gotta like gotta make some money because most of the record labels they take majority they made but oh totally totally you know the got stuck in that record label nonsense lost a lot of money got ripped off for a lotta money. He was one of them. He was one of them I don't think anybody really made all that much money. Like people think they did. Then but you know all of the people that i represent had some kind of issue and all of the people event. You've had some time to issue. I've been to beat a lot of people. Yeah and i mean that's something. I have learned along the way interviewing the people. You've sent us as that musicians have it a lot harder than is portrayed in it's a shame i really feel for them because i mean they're great they they're like the soul of the world in in the people. Listen to music. That i might steal that haven't saw copyright anything so now you're ready for it. You have like you said interviewed countless countless people and not just musicians like all sorts of celebrities. Like who who are like some of your like most memorable ones for you you know what. I had great experiences with every single person except one that they've interview now interested. So the one. I you know i write for really huge gay magazine and from net magazine interview. Diana ross Shiels emma stone mean huge. Huge huge boy. George huge people so this nobody nobody's. Pr contacted me and said listen. My client is gonna be in the grand old opry. I said all right you know. She's nobody whatever. But i'll do it. She was a lesbian so she kind of belonged in the book. So i was like all right. I'll give it a try and the girls who was a country artist and you know when you interview someone the first kind of thing you want to get you want to you like. You're hoping for four with them of some soil. So you know. I said hello. And i i asked her. I said so. What influences your music and her answer to me was. I don't want to talk about me i think. Excuse me. I just want to talk about my music. So i'm thinking to myself that i were the question wrong music and she said i don't really like this interview. I said i'll tell you what this was after. Like fifteen minutes. I said i'll tell you what when you really want an interview. Give me a call. And i hung up on her and A pr person was like devastated. She was like the worst. Just everything i ask that. She was like so difficult. Like someone's doing you a favor known. Insanity remember her name and i'm glad i don't remember her name and i mean usually the big the people the better they are. I mean the more easier they ought in near the more they wanted to tell you. I will say leland sklar. He was one of the most downward people we've spoken with a solely back is crazy. He wanted to know what nice guy he is. I'll tell you so. He just did a big party in. La the suwon. A one of my one of my clients design and we had this big party. And we invited all these people and leland recording that day with Either judi owens a melissa ethridge somebody and he was all the way in pasadena any left. The recording studio drove now to say hello to because he never met me in person and then drove back. But the thing is when you walked in only other rockstars like it was like the messiah walked all like. Oh my god that's le-le-let's they will like little girls. It was great. But that's what kinda guy he's just he's a good friend anyway. Aside from tr we you know we've you become a lot during this pandemic thing you you make a lot of rebate a lot of friends and stayed with them you know. Y- pressure of bonding. So yeah now is the pandemic affected your line of work. May honestly i. I hate to say but we will busier than ever because people wanted to stay relevant. And all you could do is read to read. Think i mean watch or listen. You couldn't go after live shows or anything like that. So of course unless you lived in florida florida but Yeah so. I mean we were busy really busy. We had more clients than we ever have know when we just built on that so for us it was great. Matter fact jimmy. And i think the pandemic might have been awful because no-no i'll explain because we always wish that people would just leave us alone that we could sit now rome and worked you know and not the father and all of a sudden there was a pandemic so i kind of think it might have been outfall a little bit to do it. It happened you guys are pangolin. Come out in full fury. They can't say the new such yet. Youtube will remove us out of the vity publications. or how. how do you keep up with all of it. It's actually eighty seven. They'll keep up with the disco. Jimmy staw- i interviewer. I write the article and then press a little button my email send it to jimmy and he submits them he keeps track of where when and how and one's lot and who wants to be in. I if you ask me like you know what magazines your right. So i could probably name. And maybe that's crazy. Yeah i mean you you actually got got us a little article in hollywood digest. Want or not. I'll let me pull this up real quick because well there. There's the one today. The influence our news magazine where we were named one of the best. The best between twenty one for podcasts. And thank you so much we love you and there was another one though. Four one one news with and so that was really cool. I mean makes me feel like we're doing something with that. You guys that you podcast mike one. Anyway we're very. We're very appreciative. Role very thankful for all you guys. On -solutely yeah i is it i mean and i have made like really good friends with with some of them. I started working with some of them. And i mean like i started a helping out in the howard loomis. So that's been a lion that he so happy. So abby how was probably the smartest man on the planet who's crazy crazy smart from august. You know in in some some ways. She's like the dumbest man in the whole world. And the thing is you know he was. He was like the best publicist in the world. You know like he. He represented every freaking artist in the seventies. everyone's like from bette midler to accept animated. But billy idol everybody and then he it s and we were like. Oh my god. He's hiring us like when he hiatus. I had to tell them how we're not that good. He's been with us almost two years now. So awesome item. You know what when might might clients come back to me and and they say oh my god. Those guys were crazy then. I know it was a good show. Get we we always try to keep that energy that that attitude going or just wanna have fun get to nobody store and get to know them and what they do and how they've achieved at all because lot of people like to focus more so on the failures in nobody likes worries about how they made it but people making it's awesome. I think you're to learn that you went from nursing school for a nurse for three minutes to star trek medical journal. That that's pretty bucket pristine to me. You know what you have to have fun with you like you have to take a chance. You know because if you don't if you don't like take the risks. There's no possibilities right. So you gotta go on percent true. I can't remember the quote. Exactly from like nasa with the whole apollo thing something about yet to overcome many failures to actually get the accomplishment achiever. I'm probably totally butchering that. But i know something. Along those lines with bela. Slight what we'd like you gotta you gotta risk to the biscuit that version you just blew nassau's out of the water if i like remotely close or you know what now that i remember its failure is not an option so i was way off probably thinking of something else now. I love that i never fail. You know why you. Why 'cause when i do something and it doesn't work out the way one a learn from it so it's not a failure trial and error. I mean you just gotta keep moving and it's it's yeah it's not a failure. It's a learning experience. It's it's a moment. Lindley mode of lesson and grows backups. In back on your feet the king keep going up. If you don't go down at some point maybe some some people are definitely fortunate to maybe do so like i. Don know tesla maybe the eons pretty up there he just keeps going wait. Hope i mean we've seen shave him. Just feel that kit to let me know if you do. I i would definitely look. Let us know. And i'm still on the hunt for the aliens. I mean hoping we'll address them soon. They'll be out in the open that wanna come in the morning show. We'll see what happens but off. Cool extend them over so what. What was your ear. Like hashing about star trek did you were you like. Are you nerdy girl now. Not at all. I can barely turn on a computer No i understand girl crush Leonard nimoy spa. Wash wash it for the crush. Yeah i watched it by the way at of all the celebrities. He was my very few ruid. Oh really that's it. Yeah it's a bank. I remember printing on the kitchen floor. And i had a tape recorder. That's a long ago. You know tape. Recorder and publicist got on the phone and connected and i probably was never so in my life and i was never that nervous again either. But like your heart's pounding it's like in your throat. You know that feeling talking to him for about two minutes away will and i wind up meeting animal a couple of times. I wanted meeting his whole family. Actually that's really cool. Is he with the peace and prosper or different kind of person. He was very He was he was a nice person very creative and He was born and raised in in boston and his parents very proper he was a little spock ish he was he was perfect for spot. 'cause he the spock ish none so out of You interviewed other people from star trek than right. Who is your favorite second favorite to nimoy Actually i gave the cell nichols and i knew them all because we went to convention after convention so i knew them all but I really didn't interview too many to leonard. Nimoy you beat that you know at that point. You're all their friends you like. I don't want to interview with just hanging out at school. Lieutenant oh her son was playing the playboy club and we'd like wrung out with we end up sharing like the rule net nights. You know like you can't interview someone you sharing a room with you. Just can't that doesn't work about to go. Oh by the way this far is kelly was dick force. Kelly go bad so. I can't imagine i've always wanted to know. But what is the playboy mentioned like. It was not. It wasn't in the mansion. It was playboy club a hotel. oh choice. Have you been to the mansion. I haven't i haven't. But but here's the but i should have been. I believe it. I mean yeah we we see that buddy you could walk in you know what i have a client. I have a client named isabella. And she owns. What's called the chateau chat. It's kind of like the playboy mansion except all the models they walk around dressed this cats you. You scheduled her for us. So i'm excited because yeah i looked at it now is a very. That's pretty close. The playboy then is your girlfriend. Okay with this young kid. I mean fire bowman look. It looks like we're so. Oh man you We see that you had met. Flavor flav was scrolling through the pictures in house. Like oh she. That's how is he really in real life with without cameras and all. We sell fun in so nice and sopa energy. And exactly like he is on states. That is kind of. Please come on just exactly that funny. And so what would you say would be like the pinnacle of your career. Or if if you hit that yet like what was when you really sit there. And like i think i did when i interviewed at a man foot. I don't have really idol on my bucket list. I did do springfield twice. And he actually came may for an interview him. That was when we feel good moment. Right there just i had. This is a funny one. I shouldn't tell anyone in florida. But i will i out fast the interview. Nancy pelosi interesting go. Well we know why. I'm not political at all. But she's waving thing for aid and i write for gay magazines. I might do it. I might and i'm i don't know a man on that one first of all. It's like saturday night. Have to fly to san francisco. So i told them. Look if you guarantee me. I'm going to interview her. I'll do it but i don't want anyone else. San juan into the the the governor of california jazz avenue. Jump just ask her how. How is the haircut okay. Nothing about don't actually ask her. That'll never mind. Everyone said to ask her about ice cream. is that true. Is that true ice cream ice cream much about a dozen ring any bells but like least political person on the planet i. It's honestly more blissful to be that way so program and i said listen. I am not a political journalist on an entertainment journalist. And i won't ask for anything political. They were okay with. Maybe she wants the other side's is without your process. It's a thing for aids at that doing so it's okay robot. Maybe i don't know them. Stick try to stick in some type. Spotlight them i mean. So you've traveled to do interviews. What's the lister craziest place. You've traveled to interview. Okay well i did. England died nice. Okay and i went on friday night. And there's five hours ahead of new york. So i got there. I guess i got there saturday morning. I stay till night. Eleven o'clock right back on a plane home. That was the seattle to seattle not. I'm doing whatever. I need to pretty much ended. The crazy thing is. This is a crazy story. When i when i met adam. The first time it was very strange isn't during a meet and greet and i think if you take it to the meeting. Because he never does them but he he was doing it. This one concert. I said when we take it. I don't care how much it is. And then i'm going to ask him for the interview in person so i i bought his ticket shows over this about twenty of us at the meeting break. And he's on one side of the room and we're all on the other side so now it's my turn so i go up there now. He has an assistant named adam. Ross and adam. Ross and i have been emailing guy. I don't know from two years now. So i introduced myself and you know who i was and that was cool and adam was gone. You like nowhere to be found all of a sudden he comes out from behind the stage and hugs me now you know. What if he shook. My hand was a fast hug. You know that would have been normal but he hugged me for like what seemed like ten minutes now is like i don't even have to act. What do i difficult spotlight was on. They gave us a ticket decide and it wasn't going to ask to sign it but he took it out of my hand and he wrote what you know had you. He knew my name. But it's like. How do you spell your name and i spelled it. And he stopped in the middle he goes. Wait a minute your name. Saleem said yes but if you don't like that name coby. Anything says to his assistant her. Name's eileen and i'm thinking. This is so weird all right. I said you can call me anything you were. They don't care so he saw. I did and hug me again and i. It was like being like why. Why did that have off. I go home and my friend calls me from england. Her name is michelle and she calls me. She said they spelled your name wrong. I said who she goes. You're you're Review is on his album cover. And i'm not even comprehending what she's telling me. She goes adam bitsy and used jewelry view from the night that you were there for one night but they spelt you name as ellen instead of eileen then i got hit so he put it put out a whole. Cd had your review on it. Yeah he had like the f. Excerpts from certain interviews for certain reviews and he had mine and nobody told me. I wanted to talk. He did my name but but it was forget out magazine so everybody knew it was mays high care. I mean you know to me was almost as good as it interviews. It's awesome album jacket. you know. i've no pool. Is that super cool. I mean i may not many people can say that's so get excited seeing what you write about us the interviews so i i can only imagine bagley and it. Yeah i now. Don't take it about it because you mentioned the get out magazine and in also started working with with dante's dante's alexander estimate that that's that's been a lot of fun i Actually we got will by the time the viewers here this Ah game out for him. That helped make so. That was a lot of fun. So you want to. If you guys ever need a game limit what will make a little bad ass. Eileen like just fighting in science find people. 'cause i play it. I want you to make jimmy star game. He would die to that lamelo. That is so who. I'm a nerd i'm techie. I wanted jimmy stargazing stood. Let's do it. And he can fight. Ron something with beat up. I'm down. i go put some writing effort into it. I got you. He's he's a dakota is a self published author. I really yeah. He's being very modest around raw right. it's a sci-fi it's the first in a series. I've been working on bald barnard's galaxy descendants of legacy and did the alternates between two alien species and just kinda goes to their histories and they eventually meet up And then i have four more than a written that just need to be edited but there they alternate yes. I would absolutely love to do that off. He's washing or call in totally. It's an what about you. What do you do are just you know i make games talk to people and live. I'm a stay at home. Dad so i just hang out. I really yes. I hang out with my daughter the time my wife works from home. She's a she's actually a a nurse as well looks but she's she's she's got a pretty easy she's not easy. I wouldn't say she she. She slapped me. She heard that But i mean it is nice. Said she does get to light. Just hang out sit. Sit in her office with her little robot in the house so yup i and i have a pretty boring life. She's not she's to have you. Man is adorable sees sarah. She gets it for mommy. Not man so yeah looking. Oh sorry. sorry viewers listeners. She's she's a little fireball. She's crazy she gets that from me. She she gets for me and the good look from the moms in florida. The heart of hell itself orlando. I like disneyworld. Yeah well i used to work at disney world for seven years and hated every bit of it you like character wives under flicky mouse. I wish i was. So i know so i on disney. I worked as a hvac technician. So i i did All the air conditioners all the kitchen equipment. But yeah as he's being modest he was one of salon things he was one of the princesses that walked around. You'd be surprised. So when i did work at universal i tried so hard to be a character and there was only one character that my i was able to fit and they could only give me. It's rockier bolwing Toll news winco think Notes rocky now squirrel should just stuck with him so so bullying goal but they already had like two three people that need anybody else. I was like all right. Well it won't be a character final. Just play games. So i literally ran a little card games around jaws and that was it i love it causes air no longer. It's so sad so it's was nice to be a part of it but yeah no auburn is not a universal. Is a lot nicer to for the disney. I i will say that really. Oh yeah by a long shot yeah. It's it's nice if you don't work otherwise magic just kind of goes way way. The magic is stripped away. Yeah but i mean living living in orlando. It's it's crazy because we have were like the heart of tourists for like almost all of the world. And so traffic's crazy. Yeah i bet. I used to work in the mornings like four am. I'd have to wake up and drive out to work. It was so nice because nobody is on the road. I could get to work in fifteen minutes. I'm like what any other time was working during the day. Taking an hour almost two hours just to get home because traffic on new york you can not even say a word and even us to live in california close to la. And i wasn't old enough to drive. But man i remember my parents driving and being in stop and go traffic for hours and it was the worst. I hated it. Hated it dr. The i drive the live there. Hey on california cal. Everyone welcome host dorthy or to kota for short or long out yet. Think cyclone do not yet. I've only been here since last august. So i just moved to me so go take a pig record record one. No i want you to klaly while once going on okay facetime besides watch it all right. I get the new one so there is one so far where there was like a warning at my girlfriend. Jordan called me. She was at work and she's like grab the dogs and go to the lodge room. Shut the door. And i'm like sitting here playing video games like what's going on not looked outside and looking pretty scary. Let's next next on one. After a storm chaser helpful was that they look cool. Be unless i got like a super souped up batmobile it's just always reminds me of that movie twister. Yeah exactly cow. Getting sucked in Ecomog moment i always remember twister. I think that's like the closest thing i've ever had actually experiencing a a tornado. 'cause like they you sound like a little walk by show. It was cool but like they made like this. Artificial tornado knew it was loud crazy. A lot of stuff happens. And i was just like blown away with the first time i've seen girls i want to be in real a surprising i was before in colorado we. When i was in high school we had one in the town over which was like it never happened but was one that hit the town over and that one yet. I was pretty freaky i was. I was out at lunch driving and everybody had to stop. Driving and pullover kazoo was there was so much. Hail coming down. You can see anything so like pullover back to school and everybody was like hunkered down hanging out those. Yeah so i unexperienced part of the tornado. We had one in new york once one it was we had yet. We had a tornado. We had an earthquake in new york. Ones well see. That's what i'm used to from. California was earthquakes waking up from just rocking back and forth those those refund waking up to my dad bruin running into the room to get us to go in like standard bat like ceiling. Right there in the bathtub. Just never i'm man. I am so thankful. I've never had to deal with any crazy thing. We just deal with hurricanes. But like that's nothing to me like florida boys. We go outside during hurricanes. I love mark gains. We go outside. we had some. We have some really cool once. The either storm is the bed. All scary. it is cause it's like stead quiet. Like you hear everything out in the distance around but everything like sent. Senator is calm and quiet. It's pretty eerie. But yeah i was going to mention. I have driven in new york. And i actually made the mistake of renting a car to drive through all five boroughs and weekly regretted it weekly but that in and speaking tornadoes i think the best best story. I heard the craziest. One i heard was for might bizarre. Actually that the one he guy everything. He's lost like his entire house except the closet. He was in our just like when he was telling me. The story like was clinched up tight like sweat and like. Oh my god like as if i didn't know he was gonna make it out alive because you know here i am talking about but like he told the story so intensely i was like oh my god. No thank you do that. Just got back into a house. Good well hopefully tornadoes low. Oh man so what. What do you do on your spare time. When you're not busy in finagling with all these interviews and every test rate let me tell you something k. so i have clients in england. They're nine o'clock is our for And then i have clients in. La who don't think anything a calling me to three in the morning because it's so early today though there is no free time. There's these calls to chrissy. Might need me too nice. They wanna be reassured back decades and so johnny. During the pandemic called every single night scott would call about twelve. Am and johnny would get on the other line and they would both call me and we facetime all every single day. I don't know how you do that. That is incredible. You know what became all my friends during this pandemic than clients. Sure you just. We all became so close. You know what. I would never face with scott. During a day pandemic three four times she would call four. You know so. Yeah so i was just put the phone on. The front porch is something. Just go ahead. Write what i was doing in school. We ever just like not today. I needed to get some sleep against answer. Quick going back to bed. I mean i would walk through a while sometimes and then like if they started to talk politics. That was at five boys nine. I could see that little sense. So yeah you do all this writing. Do you ever have time to like read. You like reading or nanno or and righties righted. I give it to jimmy. And i don't even want to look at it anymore not arena. I'm not feel if i have to review a book. i'll read it or at least most of it. Not grandpa listen to music. I gather i had also. I have nine grandchildren. That live the which all live within ten minutes of my life. So on top of all of the clients you have all the grandchildren as well as a matter of fact twelve year old. Gabriel and. he's like really smart really smart net. I'm gonna make interview. you know. he's he he plays like those games and stuff. And so yeah. We're screwed into. I'm sorry what think we've you let you lead notice or are we good now. Yeah i think so. I said he interviews everyone that you to be excellent. Oh this is this. Game a yeah. I've seen him look some research. I would usually type in their names. And then i see the kid interviewing them. And i was like now. How the hell did they listen to. You know the rap a molly mall with pins morrow awesome. So look he's got the hook up a right. Yeah incredible gape yeah credible or the amazing game one of so you know interview you for sure we doggone it show the judge gets really alum this one more one last question and then you can ask me anything you wanna right ready dino like it's like almost ten o'clock at night so why mindless mornings why not mind midnight so he likes he likes people listen in the morning so i do release them in the morning but i myself am not at all the morning person and actually are we do have an interview on sunday were interviewing some people from venezuela and so we do have to like be up early in the morning so it's actually going to be our first real interview but we did at one point in time have a mindless midnight and that was when nick and i would only cause for awhile. We would only just do me a nick just going back and forth with nonsense and then we started bringing gas and that was our midnight section that were like aright legis merged together. It's all mindless morning. Show and and just continue on with the branding and Yeah that's Maybe poor branding on my end. It works out. Because i mean like i said i just released some like first thing in the more like four. Am in the morning. Apparently there's like a really good time window release podcasts. And when not to is that true. Yeah well i mean. The internet tells me i was going to say the ended at tells us seven well. You shouldn't believe everything. I've been told this lately. I don't understand why you telling me. I can't grow for mortgages. If i take this badge josh tom. Given you're you're coming up on almost a year of your your book with adamant. I forgot the book named now waiting for adam waiting for atoms so coming up on almost the whole year feel okay as it seemed like a lot of success or brought in anything. I mean the book is. I haven't done a book tour. But i'm going to and the follow up book should come out depending on if i get an interview with billy idol around the same time you know during the summer or maybe a little a september. Fold waiting for billy. So are you going to come to orlando for your book tour. Absolutely lemme know. I'm gonna have to fly out then. Yep we'll we'll have formerly meet as you can guarantee me a tornado while come to kansas. Thank you ought to do some research. I mean i would be really fucking depressed if you can summon a tornado due to do bigger better things if i could summon tornadoes man. Yeah well i mean. Yeah him and dakota. And i've never actually met but we play video games together almost every day wrestling. No we play on teams teammates routine play with game. He's really good was he played. Please tell me for areas. I don't know. I probably four night if these around manage play fortnite but i think Place different things. I wouldn't even know where to begin with. We're looking for new games lewis. Yeah this is true. We've applying it way too much to where we're got sick When you play chess brothers chessmaster I've got it. I've tried and i can play if like i'm on a phone app or something and it tells me what the pieces can do. Yeah i was gonna say. I i don't i don't remember what how pieces move. So unless it's like preprogramed and tells me i can only do this or that. Then i can play whether or not. I'll be any good at the different story. I have no clue not my bad blood. You guys play What he plays. He's pretty good at all of you know we'll have lincoln. They never not quite so. I won't be sure to watch my language around gave. Don't wanna get get grandma in trouble with with lake. Who did you just like. give my permission. You know all my none of my kids are cool. I brought them to animate concerts when they like. Everywhere and and one has abundant. She's a librarian. That's gapes mother and the other one doesn't have one all the time but sometimes and she's a social studies teacher. I have a little does okay. He's also a teacher so i get. My kids are cool. I like because like you had to change their diapers and deal with them for so long or is it just like they really. Aren't that cool. Like they went to concert at the concert. You know. I used to wake them up at at ten all for driving lesson like at three in the morning i was like cool mother and they just didn't turn out cool like trying to find living when you do because i definitely want to make sure my daughter is as cool as i am so cool i mean i give her a little controller to play games. She seems like she's keeping it cool. She seems pretty cool. So far. do while you know what they rebel when they're about i don't know fifteen so scary though forty by then so like. I'm looking forward to that. She'll take the controls and throw it at you and say i'm done they. You know it's your turn a blind. My wife is spanish. I'm used to the like the sandals being thrown at me so being chased around with a pot and pan or whatever. What's her name is mila and you'll combing say she's sorry i call name would you the name mazzacane from them. That's that's what. I tried to name her daughter in my wife. Just said no this because you've been a fan of lucifer's Wanted to show is so amazing. An call her maze for short and i thought that was cute but she just a bad ass she. She wasn't going for. Plus i was like how many other kids are gonna be out. There name advocating like. We're going to name her meal. And how many fucking meals you gonna meet like my name. Josh is everywhere. Name and dakota's real name go ahead to co buy. Real name is alisha. i like that. Yeah he's got noticed rare names like how is that fair. You know what i. i have a house. Same dakota but she's adrift. We i tried it once. I wasn't there for the heels. Die of trouble walking in heels. Let's embarrassing food. It's almost like a dark side. Dorothy darcy success. I like it. Oh man me. Playing a game initially oblivious though the podcast the we have a big podcast community on discord. And there's so many different podcasters within there and Yeah we we started talking with somebody knows like oh a game and like every day after that just about is we're i mean probably for a couple of hours each day that's cool. Yeah it's been it's been fun so unfortunately gonna end soon. 'cause i'm gonna have to go back to work but give them when i know. I know it's so hard being astound data. Not having any like super real responsibilities. I could be like ham my job or something like i your your stay at home dad. I'm about to be go. Wait that since. I'm going to be in a daycare. Advert he works. Daycares like just dealing with a bunch of kids so at least you get to give them back though taking home. That's right try psychotic dog man think seen on instagram. Is it like a little wiener dog. Yeah i on sleepy. Just walk up tv showing me off again. Okay at the pretty print to love it so you know what. I'm gonna like it spots. I'm gonna do them pink and stuff. I think she'll be really cool man. I can't wait to see that. On insists those hairstylists that do like dog hair cut dogs and they make him look crazy. Dog turn into something. It was so happy running out. There always wanted to be zebra zebra dogs understand that like they know like. Hey look at me now. Zebra is but i'm sure it was probably like. Have you ever painted the dogs toenails yet. I haven't but i'm teaching her. They say if you if you like was getting used to that that when i'm ready to pay them show let me. I can't even put my dog's nails all on aids at re said he's terrified of trying to like get abused to like they. They're cool giving me there paul. I say they'll give me their paul. And i can hold their hand. Shake their hands dance with whatever they don't care second. Got those clippers in my hand other like. Don't get away from you. Send onyx will at me and hit me and do all the stuff and grabbing his fine that old thing out in its like nyathi yell at him in the corner and that finally do any looks at me and i'm like that's not so bad writings little like it. I try to teach fielded again before she gave you the middle finger fiona. So are you a shrek fan or where did the name come from for you Sort of my grandchildren are fooled. Sarafina we call her little feet. She wanted the named after so i named the dog fee owner. We call them both little feed now very unique name. I don't remember the it's interesting. I'm going to have to get with my mom and see if i get my name change or something. I'm tired of this josh. Thank you needs your mom's permission to do that. But you're right. I don't i do and it's another generic name. What is what is it. Robert josh robert bomb. Dad did you guys ethan sawyer. One of mine can't take your. I kind of always wanted to be called leroy. I in actually we. When i worked at toys r us long ago. I had already worked with four other josh so i was like. Can you guys just change my name tag to leroy. They're like yeah all right cool. Call me leroy to on the radio everything. I'm not goin' responded josh anymore. Sound for like a year. I worked up. I was leroy. It was great. I love you light that you should do it. I love it i mean. I don't know what i would change my name to. Now i think about it because really it was it was more so a gag at the leroy jenkins thing zero. Ask janke what i would want to be. Call changed will have someone name you. A good idea had to start at start a whole trend. Just having people see what name works the best. See what you get listening viewers Comment let me know what. I should say myself Hashtag renamed josh. Yeah i mean and nobody commend me with some friends style. Shit like i'm not naming myself prince banana hammock or anything like that. Don't look at those for just send you or her boyfriend. Paul right at the at the time had named himself crag it's like yeah you nature so principles banana hammock grab bag. Oh aren't you going to introduce me high on creeping up. Grab bag so funny. I think i think it'd be really great. I i'm gonna do. I'm gonna do. I wouldn't name would stand out but honestly like who cares like if you kept kept limited. Be crag robert get up. I probably i probably keep my middle name just because it's actually both my dad's names oddly enough. My dad's all adopted. No it was my my mom's ex who is my biological was robert than she remarried to another robert alice. I was going with one named robin. The other was burt now. No no now. Robert robert just a second problem not another rubber. What is your taste in men. They need to be named robert requirement. They need to have the burden of rob funny. I don't know if like she says it was just coincidence. I'm maybe my my brother ethan. In his wife's name jessica. He had an ex girlfriend before. That was also named jessica so we always give the same crap to coincidence but still funny. Yeah you're gonna to really well his middle name. I don't know so even allen is really. My dad claims. It was before the furniture store. Funny anymore you have a one more brother an older brother named cody mitchell. Either hold great names my dad. My dad said that we are all western. Except for you is your for me. He claims my mom. Switch that to my first thing when he wasn't paying attention unlike dakota sounded weird. Allies dakota send so much better. He d a two sisters. They got the cool names. Well kinda one guy. Cool named her name is ashton. But the other one and honestly. I don't even remember her middle name. I don't even remember. Her name was like what might hurt. Her name is abigail but her middle name. My mom went so hippie with this. She named her her middle name rain. But with a y. So it's like. I was just like okay. Okay you got jaffer. Cool at that point. I would've taken josh rain so well my mom claims i was named after the biblical josh. But i had later. Come to find out. I was really named after josh white. Who was opprobium exer- nice nice okay with it. I not want to become a bmx biblical josh. i don't even now got no idea. It just just need a better reasoning. I guess what. Eileen what's your middleham and i hate my middle name. B. e. t. h. Better not even like short anything. Beth night even like elizabeth beth bethany that changed it to bethany. I liked that. Serve any bethany on names and we're gonna call. He could of that name forever. And so the next a next time you get you on. The show will all different names and introduce those with our new name. I'm seriously like if i don't have to go through a whole bunch of legal loopholes. I might seriously consider changing my name right now. I think you just have to pay a fee and signed paperwork. And i think that's all it is lexical research it now on states and see his. Let's see what status museum go take. Go ahead settled eileen. You're helping me change my name. Thank you so much i wonder. How much is news. A hotel room. Like i'm trying to love your name josh. Should we calls me babe. It doesn't matter she's like i forgot your name. Honestly i gotta say eileen it has been such such a pleasure having you. I've been looking so forward to meeting you. And i'm so happy to have you on and i'm so sorry lasts a yeah. I'm i'm so sorry that the first time we had you scheduled i had to reschedule. 'cause my stupidity time management. I won't apologize. Because i'll wait a minute you out. That was me. She probably she probably got an open. My name book this guy. I'm going to be changing my name. I'm totally different. That's been talking anymore. Change it but yeah no it. It's just so nice talking to you. You're a great person. I mean the amount of work that you put out in what you do it. Fires really really again. I don't know how you doing. Great person till i see seconds. You guys are great. I love your show giving what day. Tighten up client sedna absolutely. And we'll just before we go. Is there anything you'd like to say to our viewers listeners. Any words wisdom. Yeah watch this show you know why because the next time you watch it you'll be watching two different totally different people with different names. This is true he was out there. I want everyone wants to write in. Yes gestion for name. What's the creative be. Yeah i like that. I mean we contrast good. I don't know how i'm all for the you. Make the person that wins the person whose name that you choose you make them a game or tattoo them their name On myself they go all right. I feel like that was a lot more but just got a little bit easier there than it is home. Care you guys guys. Finally great smart and and i needed jimmy saw game. 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New Music Friday: The Top 8 Albums Out On Sept. 17

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New Music Friday: The Top 8 Albums Out On Sept. 17

"This message comes from. Npr sponsor the npr wine club bringing the wine world to people's homes with stories on each bottle and winds inspired by npr. Shows like weekend edition merlo available to adults twenty one years or older at npr wine club dot org happy friday everyone from npr music and all songs considered. I'm robyn hilton. i'm here with contributor gavin gatra. Hey gavin what's going on robin. It's new music. Friday the day of the week when most new albums drop. And we're doing a quick rundown of the best releases out now on september seventeenth starting with little gnaws x. His debut album amount now is called montero bring break alma. Somebody come get this speech thing. Us down arrives guitar apply. Don't lie the eight. My sheet daddy. Smile is with adam down fit my neck. Oh newsroom even though. I'm by the phone you know you never use call now. You know you on me so bad. Nankin eighteen hours themselves. The hostile wasn't doing on this whole life's going good. Emadeddin had faced face. Citizen told him daddy. Water needs fee to. If i didn't come around lieke famous. Everybody sing though nice x. Monteiro is his debut album. The song is dead right now. Of course blew up country. Music blew up hip hop in a whole lot. More when he released that juggernaut. Old town road in two thousand nineteen. And you know if you listen to this new album. A he's pushing against every expectation and you know whatever boundaries still exist. He's he's doing that even more. I like him this album too. If you've seen the movie eight mile at in 'em has to do a battle and before his opponent can try to rip them apart. He goes ahead an offers everything. That's wrong with him. Everything that everybody has ever said every little piece to pick apart. He delivers that. I kind of anticipates what everybody is going to say about him every negative thing and he puts it out there ahead of them and i think this album is that right. This is just a great snapshot of who he really is. Because i think since all town road do now we haven't really really gotten a sense of just who montero is which is his government name hence the name of the album among the many things that he just owns right out the gate. Is you know the fact that he came out. He said in an instagram post. That making this album was very therapeutic for him and he's learned not to worry. You know what others think. Because when he came out of this as a gay man he said that even then he was perceived as an acceptable air quotes gay man. You know because he was. I dunno he was well behaved or something you know but but he's not holding back anymore. I think that's kinda hit on the head. He's been saying in the lead up to this. Just how much more confident he is just with his sound his personality but also his sexuality right like he is stepping up to the face of black masculinity especially in hip hop. But i love this. Because it's so unapologetic with that on the song industry baby one of his singles with jack harlow me jokes that he's pop like bieber but he doesn't have sex with women because i'm queer and i think that's not ever going to really here on a hip hop album up until this point musically. When when i listened to the album. I didn't hear anything immediately. Hit like old town road but there are a lot of undeniable earworm cut called what i want which is all about wanting someone to love lovin. Keep you warm at night. And then there's this. There's this really sweet song called one of me. That has elton john on it. Which is all about being true to who you are and be accepted by others for it you know. He's twenty two years old. You're a young man kind of realize who in where they are and where they're going and on that song mention one of me which is my personal favorite on the album. He has the line. You know you're you're a joke. Been a gimmick from the go and that that song almost plays like it's a letter from nas himself also kind of all the things he's heard from his quote haters about himself to right he's addressing all of those things but also just saying guess what that's who i am and as the old people say warts and all i have no apologies for it. Little is debut album is called montero. Thanks so much gavin. Thank you robin. All right up next on our list of the best albums out now. On september seventeenth is a new and from the country. Singer carly peers. It's called twenty nine written in stone. All that bad swam those team. You also will outset. jones. Don't mind them down on a one in town burns. Happy gonna get this domin bang nam again this domino dog and the cat jilin gonna get back. This is carly pierce. The singer carly pierce her. New album is called twenty nine written in stone. The song is diamond. Back the opening cut in w inex- peas julie. Hi back to talk about this one and one more album that we're leading the week k. Julie hey ravin so carly pierces. A singer country singer from kentucky and this is an expansion of an album that she released back in february called twenty nine that had seven tracks. This one has fifteen and she says the one of the recent. She decided to build on her original albums that she wanted to show people that she'd you know recovered from all the heartache and grief and disappointment and whatnot that she documented on that original one back then as you mentioned. I mean with the ep and then with the falling version of this album. She has presented these songs as being direct responses to her brief marriage to and divorce from a fellow country artists and also the loss of her original producer and co writer The los angeles based writer and producer. Busby who died of cancer. You know so. She simultaneously calling back to at least as far back as as the eighties will really beyond since since she addresses a song in this album to loretta. Lynn singing alongside her own predecessor. Patty loveless but she also was doing a very contemporary thing in that element of the autobiographical. And the confessional and talking about things that she is telling us she literally lived in has recovered from and reflected on and processed. The i mean we talked a lot about you. Know in the past about how much country music has changed in the whole world of country. Music has changed and evolved particularly in recent years. We just played a little nauseous. And he's a big part of that conversation carly pierce really kind of feels like she gets back to basics on this record. You know it's no less relevant to the ongoing conversation but just sort of a i don't know came off to me as a celebration of the more foundational sounds in storytelling and country music. Exactly yeah i think what you're getting at. There is especially the production. You know the production choices that that any instrumentation the arrangements that they relied so heavily on acoustic instruments. And a lot of sounds that you could hear on a contemporary bluegrass record but also with that brightness and polish of full blown big-budget country studio production. But yeah i mean there's just a little bit of programming on on this record You could find it may be you listen closely but no drum. Machines carly pierces the singer. Her new album is twenty nine. Written in stone and julia. Let's do one more before. I let you go. It's from another country singer. This is charlie crockett. His new album out today is called music city usa. I know of to our from where you can do a deal time and town where i am from wall need a. Oh what say i've done. What have i done sebstien though for myself when i did Beanie buddy what have i o. Onnor thank right. This is charlie crockett. His new album is called music city. Usa the song we're hearing from. It is called honest fights maybe a metaphor allegory for what he's done to music these past few years the title of it music city usa. You would think that maybe he was intending it as some kind of tribute to the musical mythologies of nashville. But that is not what he is doing. Not at all you know. He did not record. This album in nashville. He recorded it in valdosta georgia. He brought the players that he uses back in texas and in the title track of the album music city. Usa we actually hear him slyly. Spurning the music circles and scenes of of nashville but not necessarily in the predictable ways. You know i mean i don't i don't feel like he is just saying. Oh nashville is plastic or cheesy or fake or anything like that. He's really he's really showing us some more meaningful differences between what he's about musically and what he perceives mainstream or alt- country to be about. He is showing us the real an abiding and contemporary connections between all these different musical forms that developed in southern cities and mid western cities and coastal cities where rural people and working people migrated you know and developed all these styles so we hear him making room for rhythm-and-blues horns and waltz time twin fiddles and all kinds of things like that and he's got this understanding the carrying the concerns of working class or blue collar experience. You know just being hard pressed having few options withstanding heartache. Not expecting much better than that. And trying to be stoic and fiercely reliant that weighs something that it's a heavyweight to carry. You know that it weighs you down. And he has a way of conveying that i feel like in his singing charlie. Crockett singing is so clipped an economical. Like he's just spent you know but and like he's been there and he's he's got he's got this wisdom and experience charlie. Crockett is the singer. His new album is music city. Usa thanks so much. julie. You're so welcome robin. We've got one more album that we wanna play for you before we take a quick break. It's from the singer. Adidas victoria her new and out now in september seventeenth is called a southern gothic. much ovallis. Such a need some mistakes junk these times. A strange before the spy. State pray him. Douglas the night job book jordan grace. Hey did stray being in the gym. Been in my senior idea victoria. The album is a southern gothic and the song is called troubled. Mind radio milwaukee treat moody here to talk about this when atri robin how you doing alright at victoria and her voice just sleighs me convey so much on this song. It's kinda like tortured but just still twitching with life. It is a special voice. It's a voice that goes through the skin and hits the bones sitting there like. Oh my god. I feel what she's trying to say i feel. Was she singing. I this is her telling the story of the south. And the fact that i am also a child of the south. She is from south carolina. And i grew up part of south carolina and in a town outside of charleston. My parents from rural alabama. It hit harder than i thought it would all the complexities the beauty and ugliness of the south yes. She gets almost eerie at times. Their moments on this record that kinda gave me chills. You know partly because of her voice. In the way that she can control and work a malady But also the instrumentation. And i don't know she gets pretty dark at times on some of these songs like she sings about shooting up heroin in the car outside a church service you know. And there's one about a woman who gets kicked out of the house on christmas day. And also i think several allusions to just madness just losing your mind and then the track the track mongolia blues which talks about magnolia and the symbolism of that the tree. The magnolia trees symbolizes black freedom. And then i was doing my research. And i forgot david. Banner remember david. Banner hip hop artist had attract call magnolias. Well and he talks about what that means to him and that tree magnolia. Which kind of alludes to billie holiday's tune strange fruits. Where black bodies were hanging from those magnolias but also growing up in a south young black people like myself might be chilling under a magnolia. Yeah i'd be curious to know what you think. But i i felt like this album was a huge leap for her. She's a singer. We've been following for a few years. Now this is her third full length. And i don't know there was an almost acquaintance queen holiness in her earlier work and i just gets bigger and deeper and darker and richer and just the sound is so much more expansive. I think adi victoria is the singer her new album. An incredible one is called a southern gothic trick. You'll be back in the second half of the show to talk about another album. We're living this week but first we need to take a short break. 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Five g connection and availability may vary check with carrier. It's knee music. Friday from npr and all songs considered. I'm robyn hilton. And we're doing a quick look at the best albums out. Now on september seventeenth. I'm here with felix contributors host of npr's latino podcasts. Hey felix. hey robin. what's up. Well we're to talk about the twenty fifth anniversary edition of what does it just an absolutely incredible game changing album. Buena vista social club. But before i play bit from. I just wanted to set it up by saying that for me personally. I think this is the greatest opening for an album ever. This song is called john. I mean right. This is listen for a minute. Wait alcott hey on I mean for real got goosebumps again los angeles. How many times have i heard the song. And i'm still getting goosebumps. It's like i have never been so immediately. Captivated in awestruck by an album. As i was when i first heard this in twenty five years ago but for the grown adults who weren't even alive. And maybe maybe you could just set it up. What's the story behind this. This this amazing record and how it came to be you know man very few recordings have had such a fundamental impact on genre as this album did for cuban music and particular cuban song which is a very distinct Song and musical style and to be clear that this was a celebration of pre revolution cuba. That's going to be before nineteen fifty-nine in an error the nineteen forties and fifties. What many consider. The golden era of cuban music and there was going to be a recording in cuba of musicians from mali. And then some String musicians from the eastern part of cuba but the african musicians could make it into cuba so the backing musicians. What are we gonna do raccoon. Or what are the producers. What are we going to do and they just assembled like. Let's bring this vocalist analysts. Let's try something and they ended up bringing in all of these retired a semi retired musicians from that era. And that's how this record came about. It was going to be something completely different. But that's the magic of it right. Something completely unexpected and everything fell into place. And oh call this guy and this guy over here in this woman singer and then pretty soon they had a nice little party going and a an amazing recording session. It's also hard to overstate. Its legacy in the impact as you said that it had on music. I was living in miami at the time with very very large cuban american population and they had a huge huge opening at one of the art theaters. There and like people were crying because it was pre revolution. It was a lot of the memories that people had a of their homeland and could never go back. All of that people were literally crying even in the lobby. Afterwards you saw groups of people just celebrating this music because it was so the music itself was so glorious but this these recordings in particular in that film that came along with man it was just it just opened the floodgates man and people just were really digging it. That's amazing it's been remastered for this twenty fifth edition and they've included a a whole bunch of previously unreleased tracks. Like you know alternate takes in some behind the scenes stuff. I wanna play a little bit of a cut. The included called el diablo swelled to If there's an afterlife you hope it's like this right. I mean it sounds like the the pianist just kind of broke into this between takes other songs. There are a ton of people to admire and respect from that from that session. But for me. Ruben gonzalez pianos has always been my hero from this session because it just brought back that golden age of piano. That's like almost classical away but still very rhythmic very afro-cuban. He was my hero from the album from the film. And that's him just like okay. Let's go and like it was like in his late eighties at that point right. I mean unlimited unlimited musical spirit. Well i thought it was glorious to hear this album again and just so many. Great gyms for the twenty fifth anniversary edition. Can't believe that much time has passed when of the social club is the album the twenty-fifth anniversary edition. Thanks so much felix. Of course we'll talk about these guys anytime. Yeah right all right up next in our march through the best releases out. Now on september seventeenth is a new in from the singer and songwriter. Jose gonzalez. he's back with a new one. Called local valley trying to trying to say does show A shading be rich sales decay now face of the heavy sigh. Assist jose gonzalez is the singer. His new album is called local valley the song as visions and npr. Music contributors serena tros here to bliss out with me about this one. Hey serena we were just talking about the buena vista social club album and just magical it was. And and that's what i remember thinking when i first heard jose gonzalez music. It's been nearly twenty years ago. Just so beautiful and magical and calming. you know. it's funny. I originally thought that visions this lung. You just played wise something he recorded for this album. I could have sworn he already released this song. He's like this really brilliant sonic signature cooling meditative. Beautiful finger picked style of guitar. And this calming voice and it blesses exactly the right word for it. Yeah i mean he definitely has this formula down. I mean the gently strummed guitar in his voice. But i kept thinking it. As i heard this record that it just it's lost. Nothing is lost nothing. It is just as affecting as when i heard it absolutely and i think he does expand a little bit beyond that formula on this album. He lets his voice carey songs. Little bit more freely in his previous work. you know. it's very much like the finger picked guitar and kind of the rooted base very repetitive meditative. But he actually gets a little bit more adventurous with the percussion on this album. There a couple songs are in the middle of the record that he starts using this this drum machine. This is the first album in which he sings a few songs in spanish which is his native language his parents are antony and even though he was in sweden and this album is a bit more outward-looking than some of his earlier work to and it gets pretty existential at times. Which you know me well. It's a journey. I'm always happy to with with anyone really but you know he really looks at earth. Is this little dot. That's floating in this hostile universe in in how we you know essentially intelligent apes how can possibly make sense of it. So much of this album is about epistemology like how we gain knowledge thinking about thinking i think the unifying vision of his work me is thinking about these broader questions about the universe but also just the way that music is almost like a conversation for him between himself and other people in the way that he does a lot of covers and also just the way that he builds on his own knowledge in his own body of work. And something about these repeating melody's in the way he plays guitar. Does that for me too. Well he's an artist who's content to let a lot of time passed between records. This is only as fourth album almost twenty years of but maybe that's that's the right pace for for music like this. You know it's funny in high school. I had a teacher used to tell me. That thinking takes time when i tried to. You know turned in an essay at the last minute overnight and i used to hate that but i think she was absolutely right and you hear in and works from artists like jose gonzales that it's definitely quality over quantity like these ideas. They do take time to build up into execute the way that he's done here. Jose gonzales is the artist who's new album is called local valley. Thanks much serena thanks robin all right another album out now. On our shortlist of the best releases for september seventeenth is a new one from the jazz singer. Sheila jordan it's called comes love lost session. Nineteen sixty song Sad young men glass this off. All the news is bad again. Kids your doing good ga. Oh man sitting in the knowing me not seen. Aw aw if oh. The sheila jordan is the singer. Her new record is comes. Love lost session. One thousand nine hundred sixty this ballad of the sad young men nature. Wb gio and jazz tonight in america back to talk about this when hey nate. Hey robin so sheila jordan. She's she's a jazz singer whose ninety two years old now put out her first record in nineteen sixty three but this newly unearthed studio recording predates have quite a bit. it does. it's a historic find. Truly you know First of all. I'm glad you started with the fact that she is still with us i. She isn't any age as master. She is not only still here. She's still performing. she's a a warrior and has been a touchstone for generations of jazz singers because of the fearlessness of her approach. She's a musician singer in the sense that she has incredible improvisational chops. She's got a sense of daring. She understands the mechanics of the music and she can do anything with her voice. And what's really extraordinary about this release. It is the earliest document. Now that we have of her she went on to have one of the most distinctive voices in styles and jazz. And i'm wondering how the the sheila jordan most people know compares to this very early version. You know one point of comparison for me as i heard. This album was the very first album by nina. Simone which is called little girl blue but it has the subtitle jazz played in an exclusive side street club in a similar way. You really are getting nina simone on that album but it's in a lot of ways it's sort of a kernel that later would explode into something else. No i feel the same way about this. Sheila jordan record in that you really are hearing her but you're also hearing something that is about to blossom into into her mature art. Sheila jordan is the singer. Her new record is comes. Love lost session nineteen sixty. Thanks so much nate. My pleasure robin. We've got one more album that we wanna play for this week but as always do wanna mention a few other notable releases out today there's a new installment of the bob dylan bootleg series out now. It's called springtime in new york volume. Sixteen it's recordings taken from his early to mid nineteen eighties period. Springtime in new york from bob dylan volume sixteen in his bootleg series. Lindsey buckingham has a new solo album out. Today it's self titled lindsey buckingham. The singer pianist producer cory. Henry has announced today called best of me. He's best known to some people for his early work with the band. Snarky puppy back now with a solo album called best of me from corey henry. Melissa etheridge has a new album out now called one way out. And james vincent mc moro. The singer songwriter from ireland. He has a new one out today. Called grapefruit season all that music out now on september seventeenth along with this last one that we wanna play from more mother. It's called black encyclopedia of the air on steph. Let bill in alabama weapon slip in this twos the proudest folk pickup truck aka the wag downtown or life to you felt poke around and asking these questions on these pieces will put a curse fell foul well a detail common now blue black to blue that exist the more mother. The album is black. Encyclopedia of the air and the song is very hall. Three moody radio milwaukee. We go back to for this one in man. This album's trip. That's the understatement understatement. It's like i like beat poetry or something. You know kinda crackling in from another universe. This album is it's a hip hop album and it's kind of a left hip hop album but down to the foundation of core. I hear jazz. The spirit of jazz sure reason. Why because more mother plays along with a group call irreversible entanglements which is kind of a jazz group but as a hip hop album. That is meant to sit down and take time and listen and trying to understand the meaning of every song. What they're trying to get across the lyrics are really out front across this whole album. Lot of it's kind of dark lot of his very complex and it looks at blackness to a different lynn's for example. Like the track vera hall. It reminds me of you know the southern hip hop tracks outcasts. But an a an a very twisted kind of nightmarish way. Yes it's partly because of the sounds are so many fascinating sounds on the record this very minimal but just all these strange creeks and worrying sounds in cranking sounds colic. You're hearing the machinery of this music. You know and then also how they used their voices to sort of flesh out the instrumentation yes humming and buzzing. Hissing sounds but they also just used their breath in very dramatic ways. It's an album that you really. You can't just you know. Put on and forget about it. More mother as the artist. Black encyclopedia of the air is the album. Thanks so much tariq. Thank you robin. That'll do it for this week's new music. 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