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1120: Addicted to Certainty by Allison Carmen of The Gift of Maybe on Resiliency
"This is optimal. Living daily episode. Eleven twenty addicted to certainty by alzon Carmen of Alison Carmen dot com. And may vary own personal narrator. Justin Melik reading to you from some amazing blogs and books to help you optimize your life after Friday to you. I'm gonna keep this intro. Nice and shore. So let's get right to the boast as we optimize your life. Addicted to certainty by Alison Carmen of Alison Carmen dot com. So how did my journey into maybe begin it came from an addiction does addiction caused me Zaidi depression asleep listeners, and sometimes such hopelessness that my next breath itself seemed to Bergen my dish in wasn't alcohol or drugs, I wasn't a shopaholic aura compulsive gambler yet. This addiction almost destroyed me and afflicts millions of people around the world, my diction was to certainty at every moment in my life. I desperately sought to know what was going to happen next. My need for certain caused me to believe that the unexpected was always negative. I became devastated. Whenever things took an unexpected turn these I believed it meant the life. I had envisioned for myself was no longer possible. I continually sacrificed my goals and desires in an effort to feel safe and Sern yet. No matter what I did. I cannot escape uncertainty of life and the choices I made in an effort to attain certainty always lead to compromise. And disappointment the symptoms of an addiction to certain team are peculiar and particular to each person, but the common denominator is unnecessary. Suffering. In my case, I would lay awake at night in fear of what might be unable to catch my breath and unable to control. My mind's chatter was my livelihood secure. When my husband always love me could afford my life with a stocksi invested in safe would my parents children and other family members. Stay well. Would there be a large scale disaster in my city, would I or would I not get a raise this quarter lowered the results of my annual checkup be this onslaught of sleeplessness innings -iety began taking a toll on my immune system. And I started getting sick the need to know the future had gripped me as a teenager. And most of my twenties were spent in stress in my thirties. Though. I was at the top of my career as an attorney. I was deeply unhappy and suffering to deal with my illness, which no doctor could identify but the symptoms of which. Leading array of infections, allergies, anxiety and depression. I turned to alternative medicine to meditation acupuncture and any other practice. I thought might relieve my physical and emotional pain. I found some tools ease my mind, but when a big issue or conflict infiltrating my life, my still spun out of control one day still in the midst of pressing anxiety about the future. I went to see my Chiyo teacher for a lesson a related to him my tale of woe when he responded with the simple story that for me changed everything. Here's the story. One day a farmer's horse ran away his neighbor came by and said, you have the worst luck the farmer replied to the neighbor may be the next day, the horse returned with five mares, MS neighbor came by and said, you have the best luck the farmer replied, maybe the day after that the farmer's son was riding the horse and fell off and broke his leg. And the neighbor came by and said to the farmer you have the worst luck. The farmer replied, maybe the next day. The army came looking to draft the boy for combat, but he cannot go because his leg was broken. The neighbor came by and said, you have the best luck. Again. The farmer said, maybe our remember the moment. I heard this imple- story for the rest of my life. It was in this moment that I was able to fuel space in my breath. It was in this moment that for the first time I had a place to park my thoughts and just sit in a place called maybe in his place. It felt all right. Not to know the future. And suddenly, I was filled with an inexplicable hope as time passed. I learned that this world of may be created hope these allowed me see the infinite ways that every situation could unfold I realized that things might not always go as planned, but that in the next moment things would change and may be for the better. I had been so busy in my life worrying that the horse could run away that it never occurred to me that he could also come back over time. Mm-hmm. I've come to realize that may be is a place of philosophy a seed in a magical lick, sir. All I once maybe as part of uncertainty wherein, endless possibilities, live and breathe. Maybe is not a matter of probability as in. There's an eighty percent chance a situation could be bad and a twenty percent chance that could work out. Well, instead, it is a place within the uncertainty of life a space, which suggests that for every situation we experience there are numerous ways may resolve within these many possibilities. Maybe there's a chance a situation that I'm facing will work out. Well, or maybe the answer will come to me or maybe I'll be all right? No matter. What happens the essence of may be or what may be contains the hope within uncertainty? Some people may disagree with my interpretation of the farmer story. But I cannot deny the life changing experience. I had when I heard it for the first time for me, maybe became a window through which to view all that can be and within that open space. Existed. So many wonderful possibilities that I found hope and strength to endure uncertainty as I began to live in the realm of maybe my fears of the unknown dissolved and established a new future fill with opportunities a future, which has me realizing many of the hopes and dreams. I thought I'd sacrifice to worry long ago. Maybe allowed me to successfully venture into business. I love a lifelong dream may be transferred. Many other aspects of my life to from my health to my relationships with the people I love in short may be changed and saved my life today as a business coach and consultant I work with a vast array of people from entrepreneurs and owners of multimillion dollar companies to artists actors writers fashion designers attorneys medical workers doormen garage attendants nannies man, the homeless I've witnessed people regardless of presence Arkham stances who had the courage to step into the realm of maybe improve their lives. So let's take a journey together into the land of maybe a may we all find a life of peace happiness, hope and success. Just maybe. You just listen to the post titled addicted to certainty by Alison Carmen of Alison Carmen dot com. I'll keep the super short for you today. But just a quick reminder that my goal this year is to get a bunch more listeners for this show. So really nice way to show your support here is to simply tell someone about it showing them how to subscribe on their smartphone would be amazing if you can show just one person or tell them via Email or text Don make a huge difference because the audience would have doubled if everyone did it. So please do Sharon person. Online anywhere is a great help. Again, you just show them on their phone or send them to old podcast dot com. I hope you're having a great Friday and start your weekends your first weekend of twenty nineteen and I'll see you tomorrow where your optimism life awaits.
1269: A Journey Without a Goal AND Create Structure When You're Floundering by Leo Babauta of Zen Habits
"This is optimal living daily episode twelve sixty nine a journey without a goal and create structure when you're floundering both by Leo about of zen habits. Don net and very own personal. Narrator Justin Melik reading to you from some of the best blogs on the planet with their permission of to post today, coming from Leo zen habits slows get right to it is optimizing your life. A journey without a goal by Leo badeah of zen habits Don net. Nearly every activity we do has a purpose. A goal in mind, we drive to get to work to the store to a class or party, we walk for fitness, or to get to a specific destination. We work to achieve something to reach certain numbers. We work out to get healthier to get on a nicer body. But what would happen if we gave up the goal what would our journey without a goal be like imagine sending out for a walk with no particular purpose. You might go in one direction because there's a nice explosion of flowers over there. But then explorer different direction. When you see someone play music, then go in another direction because he occurs about what's there. No dissipation in mind. Nothing to achieve just curiosity fun and not knowing what would it be like to work without a goal? He might write something for fun because he want to get it out of you without knowing what the effect of the writing would be you would figure out the work as you go without knowing what the finished product will look like what would it be like? To live life, without a fixed plan without knowing where you'll be living in five years, or what you'll be doing or what you want to achieve. I don't know the answers, but I do know that I've been freer as I've learned to let go of goals, fixed plans and fixed Esten, Asians how to flow. I've long been a planner and a goal setter. But I've been learning a different way over the last few years is a radical shift in thinking and doing to a freer flowing mode of being how does it work? Well to be honest. There's no one way. But it goes a little something like this you wake up excited about being alive. You wonder what do I feel like doing today, nor constrained to anything at this point? But the question is important, so you get started doing something you're excited about having fun doing. It is that thing you're doing a destination a goal wallman some ways. Yes, but is not fixed. There's no set plan in the destination doesn't matter as much as the process the journey. You start. But you might shift as you go, depending on the flow of ideas on working with others who might have ideas you Denver. See on things that happened along away. You couldn't have predicted these things when he got started. See you have to adapt. No plan Canada's obey all of this. No goal will be adequate to the task. He might even completely shift. If something new comes up if a new opportunity presents itself, you let go of your idea of what today was going to be because these ideas of what should be our lightly held. They mean nothing really. And the important thing is the flow you learn to be flexible, instead of sat he learned to be good at change and uncertainty. Instead of fearing it as things arise, you adapt and let go of your plans and goals. You move with the flow of water with the changing landscape, you are free to do this, because you don't care where you end up, you just want to be present in your journey be compassionate with each step and have fun each moment along the way the destination becomes irrelevant. No destination or goal matters if they are all good each step along the way, then becomes the destination, and his exactly where you should be. And have another post from Leo. But I, I don't know about you, but I've had multiple computers. 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Living go there play with it is start protecting yourself from potential bad times start today and make sure you visit back blazed dot com slash optimal living so they know where you came from a continuous support the show. That's b a c k b l as E E dot com slash optimal living. Crete structure. When you're floundering Belial bout of zen habits Don net. The best of intentions often flops around, without some kind of structure. You might decide you're gonna change your diet and lose some weight. But when mealtime comes around you just eat the same kind of food, and still get to full from eating too much, or you decide you're going to procrastinate less Ambi more focused, but then after a short success you start going through usual distractions. You start exercising, but then get lazy and fall off the habit. You star waking early. But then have a late night or two and the whole house of cards comes crashing down, we start with greed intentions, but the harder ventures causes to flounder around, then we repeat that Sar. With good intentions, flounder around over and over again until we feel hopeless to change anything or start nourish, a deep sense of inadequacy what can we do to change things? It's not you. It's your method. If your current method of change isn't working starting with good intentions than floundering. You have to try a new method. Unfortunately, there is. And just one perfect method. But there is one thing you can do to vastly improve your method add some kind of structure, how structure improves our method. What do I mean, by structure, anything that keeps you sticking to the course, better anything that holds you to your intentions? The possibilities are endless, but here are some comedies, ampoules one Cree rules. No sugar. Don't go. Two days without a workout. No electron IX after nine pm meditate, first thing upon waking to get accountability. I like having a group of people who I report to every day a simple way to do that is to use an app like run keeper or some kind of diatribe app. We have friends on the app who will see your log, another ways to create a Google spreadsheet and use it to track. How you did was a goal each day or just Email people each week, who agreed to hold you accountable three set reminders. How will you remember to do what you said you did? This is a huge obstacle for. Getting instead of forgetting set reminders, on your phone on your computer and little notes, all around four do it with others, find a workout partner, a collaborator on a project a group class doing a project or going through change with others is always an amazing idea five get a coach. I am a big believer in coaching for many reasons. But one of the simplest reasons is that if you have someone you're paying in reporting to you'll simply be much more likely to follow through and a coach can see patterns that are getting in your way that you can't see number six create a challenge, or game of Don challenges with my family or friends like push up challenge drawing challenge reading, challenge, and also made up games with points and rewards. It creates structure and makes it fun to amazing ways to create change in your life. You can see the idea. Look, can you do to add structure to your change or goal. You just listen to the post titled a journey without a goal and create structure when you're fond, Orie, both by Leo, Bada of zen habits on net as actually why I started Arthur, D day challenges, at old, podcasts dot com. It's in the weekly newsletter. So make sure you subscribe to that, if you want to participate, he could join four free at old, podcast dot com. They'll do for today. I'll be back tomorrow with another post. So see there in the minimalist Monday show, where optimal life awaits.
1059: What is the Value of an Hour AND I Would Rather Sound Stupid by Marc Chernoff of Marc And Angel
"This is optimal. Living daily episode. Ten fifty nine what is the value of an hour? And I would rather sound stupid by Mark chernoff, Mark and angel dot com. Annemie very own personal narrator. Justin Melik reading to from some amazing blogs, the best blogs on the planet. I have to post today coming from Mark of Mark and angel. So let's get right to it and start. Optimizing your life. What is the value of an hour by Mark chernoff of Mark and angel Darcom? It was almost midnight on an idle Tuesday in the hospital hallways were unusually calm. I just finished reading an old issue of Sports Illustrated from cover to cover waiting socks. I thought to myself. Why didn't I bring a book as I sat quietly with my eyes closed. I could vaguely hear the soft mumbles of verbal plea going on in the hospital room beside me. You've kept him waiting long enough. My grandson is here. Oh, please. Let him in more mumbling, please, please nurse. Bring him to me a moment later, the nurse stormed out of the room. And look startled to see me waiting in the hall. Oh, you're here. He yelped. I'm sorry. I'm a hospice nurse. And I've only been watching over your grandmother for the last twenty four hours. She's decided that you were coming to visit her last night too. So she had me scouring the hospital halls looking for you to no avail when she told me you were coming again this evening. I zoomed her dementia was getting the best of her. Well, I he interrupted me. But I'm really glad you're here. I think she's been holding on just so she could say goodbye to you is actually miraculous that she's still able to speak because her body is rapidly shutting down on her the doctor gave her twenty four hours to live about twenty four hours ago. Jeez. That's he interrupted again, sir. Once more I'm truly sorry. My had no idea you were out here waiting. Please follow me I stood up in the nurse guide in me into the room. Your grandson is here. He announced from the doorway deal woman's is lit up. Oh, grace. Oh joy. She looked right at me and smiled with all the Misha left in her weak body. I knew you'd come. I sat down at her bedside and placed my hand over hers, interlocking fingers and squeezing ever so slightly in an attempt to show affection. She squeezed back and tried to speak again, but she was too exhausted. Instead, she stared directly into my eyes and held her smile for several minutes as we continue to hold hands. Finally, she closed. Her eyes and rested. For nearly an hour. I didn't move. I sat there in silence as she maintained a soft grip on my hand. Then slowly, her grip loosened and her breathing slowed for moment at thought she was falling into a deeper sleep. But then her breathing stopped altogether. I like over lifeless hand and use the emergency. Call button to summon the nurse the nurse hustled in covered the body with a white sheet recorded a few knows on his clipboard and then began to offers condolences. I'm really sorry for your loss. He said have you made any funeral arrangements? My don't even know her name. I replied, what do you mean? He asked she's your grandmother. No, she's not my shirt him prior to stepping foot in this room. I had never met her before my life. I'm here at the hospital waiting for my roommate moon needs a few stitches on his chin. He looked confused. I don't understand if you don't know her. Then why didn't you say? So and why did you sit beside her? The last hour I smiled. Well, I knew immediately that she wasn't my grandmother. But when you inform me of her life expectancy. My also knew that her real grandson wasn't going to make it in time. So curiosity got the best of me. And I followed you into the room. Then when she saw me and smiled are realize her vision was so bad that she actually thought I was her grandson, and knowing how desperate she was to see him my decided to play the part in spend the hour with her. We determine the value of every hour. Our lives are measured by the value. We provide to others this value arises from the things we spend our time doing and since time is quantified in hours. The value of our lives is a quivalent to the some of every hour. We spend opportunities to provide value are everywhere. Some of them are anticipated while others blindside us at midnight on an idle Tuesday. Whether or not we choose to acknowledge opportunities is up to us. And I have another posed from Mark in just a sec. But I thank you to bark box for their support. Bark box knows you love your dog like family, and they send you a monthly delivery right to your door with innovative toys, all natural treats and more. I got to try it on boxing. The monthly gift was like a party for both me and my dog, they have really fun themes, and it changes each month like chew Rasic bark space, squirrels and the good the bad and the Pugsley, for example, they keep it fresh and owes entertaining and the trees are made in the US and Canada without corn soy or wheat, and they even accommodate special needs. Like if you have a heavy chewier on your hands. Or if allergies are involved is a forty dollar value starting at only twenty dollars a month. Plus if your dog doesn't love something they'll replace it for free, no questions asked. Celebrate your dog with. Box. It's like the joy of a million belly scratches delivered directly to your door and for a free extra month of bark box. Visit bark box dot com slash old. When you subscribe to a six or twelve month plan, that's be a r k b o x dot com slash oh, L D. I would rather sound stupid by Mark chernoff, Mark and angel dot com. Magic happens. I've always believed in the beauty of a great journey discovering new places seeking life experiences fostering, relationships and pursuing my dreams. In fact, it's all ever really wanted to do. I just want to believe in something that's worth believing in and then pursue it with every facet of my being such journeys. I've found our best when we share them with others who like me are crazy enough to assume that our wildest dreams are just a brief distance away from reality. These are the folks who realize that impossible is simply a mindset something we get when we haven't trained our minds and our hearts to see pass the systems at currently exists to ones that don't yet exist. These when our minds and our hearts and our hands work together. Magic happens fear and only one thing is ever prevented me from making this magic happen. More often fear being afraid of what others might think. Afraid of the repercussions of putting Mike. Crazy ideas out there for the world to see and judge afraid to let go of my comfort zone and just go for it. Because what if I fail? What if what if now in most situations fear no longer stands in my way? But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Name. Most certainly does. I've just learned to curb my fears and adapt to change a bit more proficiently than I used to buy still feel the nerves of fear sneak up on me and the more important something or someone is to me. The more nervous. I get the more. I stumble over my words, and the more I sound like an incoherent fool a few years ago when I began talking to my friends and family about my goal to write and started the blog that would eventually become Mark and angel hack life. I mostly got half smiles nods and quizzical facial reactions. And when I tried to say anything meaningful to angel when we first met back in September of two thousand she would often laugh at me because she literally found herself trying to decode my jumbled shaky sentences. Clarity, one of the most remarkable things about our lives is at clarity and progression occur with enduring love. Passion and patience. This blog is now an easy topic for me to talk about. And now, it's even easy for others to talk about including my friends and family, and although it may take her a second or two angel now gets the gist of my jumbled shaky sentences almost immediately and that makes me smile because I want to continue to evolve and grow with the people in dreams that inspire me. After all I'm only have one shot like we all do to make this life meaningful. And I know for sure after coping with my fears on numerous journeys that my would rather sound stupid than be stupid and take no action at all. You just listen to the post titled what is the value of an hour. And I would rather sound stupid by Mark chernoff, Mark and angel dot com. They'll do it for today. I'll keep this ending nicest shore for you. I'll be back tomorrow with another post. I'll see you there in the minimalist Monday show where your optimal life awaits.
Small Seal, Big Deal
"Biblical archaeology can be about famous stories in the popular characters of scripture. Sometimes, however, it's just those little discoveries that remind us this grand story is true. For the Colson center, I'm John Stonestreet. This is break point no-one names. Their son Jehovah has it's too tough to pronounce on the other hand most of us Noah, Joe cya, or to not only is it a much more pronounced name. But as we read and second kings chapter twenty two Joe cya was eight years old when he became king. He reigned in Jerusalem thirty one years he did what was right in the eyes of the Lord and followed completely the ways of his father, David not turning aside to the writer to the left seeking Joe cya stands out among Judas final monarchs. Not only did he refuse to take part in idol worship. He tore down high places and the Ashra polls, and he reinstated the worship and feast of the true God, according to the bible, Joe cya did all this. Because of a discovery in the temple of scroll of the law, which had long been the elected and forgotten. He wept over Judas disobedience, he recommitted his kingdom and people to the covenant recorded in that scroll as a result. God promise that the judgment. He would eventually sent would not occur during Joseph his lifetime will a much more. Recent discovery brought this particular section of second kings to light even more the times of Israel recently described two very tiny objects unearthed at a dig in the city of David an agate stone and a lump of burnt clay. Both with Hebrew inscriptions. The names of two individuals it Carson of mutton yahu and Nathan Melik servant of the king. Now, whoever can tell me, which of those two names appears in scripture deserves this week's bible trivia ward. These were seals you see the kind once pressed into wax or dipped in ink to sign letters. According to you have to Shalev of the Israeli antiquities authority. Where those seals were found sets the twenty six hundred year year-old cygnets apart for archaeologist. She they were discovered in the remains of what was likely in administrative building that dates back. Back to the eighth century BC, many such artifacts hit the entities market. But no one's really sure often where they come from. These however were found in their true archaeological context the name that astute students of scripture might have recognized by the way, Nathan Malik an official who gets a passing mention and second kings Twenty-three eleven Justice. Joe cya is purging Jerusalem of the trappings of idolatry outside the bible this tiny clay CO is the very first confirmation of this man's existence. And to be clear, it's the obscurity of that name both in recorded history and in scripture that should amazes in biblical archaeology. We often look for the big players Moses, David the apostle Paul, for example, last year's announcement of a ring bearing Pontious pilots name was huge. And rightly so we say his name every time we recite the apostles creed proclaiming that Jesus. Redeeming work happened in real history. Still small names like Nathan Malik serving of the king may offer an even stronger confirmation that the events recorded in the bible, actually happen. The seemingly insignificant. Name from second kings reminds us that king Josiah who rediscovered the law in the temple and cleanse, the nation of idols isn't just a character from a mythical story he actually existed he was a man in history with court officials and administrative headquarters. He was part of the lineage that led to another king that Lyon who sits on the throne of Judah, who's ushering in a kingdom one that unlike ancient Jerusalem will never ever be conquered. Now, of course, we don't believe this big story because someone on earth a piece of clay with obscure name on it. But it is exciting to see how even the smallest details in scripture can hold up under the digging and all the scrutiny come to breakpoint dot org and will link it to more about this incredible story about this very exciting discovery. For breakpoint, I'm John Stonestreet.
1232: How I Stopped Feeling Inadequate and Comparing Myself to Others by Vironika Tugaleva of Vironika.org
"This is optimal. Living daily episode twelve thirty two how I stopped feeling and adequate and comparing myself to others Veronica to Galeta of Veronica dot org, and we very own personal narrator. Justin Melik reading to you from some meeting blogs to help you optimize your life. Happy friday. I've a brand new author for you today, Veronica, Veronica dot org. Nice domain name there. But her name is spelled V I R O N, I K she's actually from Ukraine moved to Toronto when she was eight at twenty six sold most of her stuff and became a digital nomad. She's now an author speaker performer, and you can keep up with her journey at Veronica dot org. Definitely check it out. But for now xxx right to our very first post from her and start. Optimizing your life. How I stopped feeling inadequate and comparing myself to others by Veronica to Galeta of Veronica dot org. I used to feel like a never be successful. Like never measure up to the accomplishments of the people around me, right after I first began coaching and speaking, I spent much of my daily life, comparing myself to people I consider successful, and I never measured up of going website after website feeling my heart sink, as I wondered how will I ever be able to do this. How can I ever get people to listen to what I am saying? What if I'll always be nobody would if no one cares? What if I'm not good enough? The shame was overwhelming. And so was the anxiety after I quit my day job and became even worse. I left my career of study. Mafia had excelled in academic amd, professionally to pursue a passion that left me feeling inadequate and insignificant. I was too young too inexperienced to unguarded to unqualified. I wasn't slick enough sexy enough or well dressed enough. I was just me and for a while there that was a painful reality, I fought these. Humans in my head secretly as I tried to share a message of love, I followed. My constant sense of inadequacy as a coach as an author as a people helper back, then I didn't see that. I was judging my work the same way. I once judged my body. I thought I'd made huge leaps and myself love journey and I had by wasn't done learning yet close to a year ago. I had an epiphany. I was invited to come on television. My first ever appearance on TV to talk about my story. And the love mindset, I wrote about my experiences at the time for now. I'll just summarize the story for you, very simply was terrified. Then I had an epiphany. It was the kind of fifty that felt good. But it didn't hit me hard, some Fini's make your eyes alight up, and you know, that they're changing your entire life. No. This wasn't like that. This is the kind of fifty that feels nice be don't realize it's life changing until you look back and see that everything is different that if money was this. This is not about me. It's. About the people. I help my job is not to be successful. My job is to serve that is how I succeed that little piffling cleanse all the work. Relating Zaidi outta my mind day by day, as I reoriented my sense of purpose in the world. About two weeks later, I held a meet up. And there was this sense of ease never fell before like going out to to you with a good friend. No, fear. Just warmth. Then went on the radio and got incredibly excited in those moments before I went on imagining all the people listening and having transformations induced by what I was about to share. Then I brought this joy to my one on one work and suddenly there, we were laughing crying and changing together. No more. What will they think? Or how will they ever become successful enough? Or how do I get people to listen to what I say or am I saying the right things? No more just how can I help? How can I serve freedom is like I had a new sense of direction a new compass within me that pointed always to love. This was my duty my purpose. My life to give to help to serve at undergone a revolution a silent one. There was no background music or fireworks. Just growth in. Es every day, I felt lighters. I shed my inadequate self image, myself, sabotaging self judging rituals, I stopped checking out the websites of other coaches and authors feeling horrible about my work comparing myself, I stopped obsessively checking my Alexa, rank in my Amazon, author rank I saw feeling like I was never going to get my message out there. My stop feeling dwarfed by the accomplishments of others who were teaching what I was teaching. I saw feeling like I had to earn the right to speak. Instead. I just spoke freedom looking back. I had no idea how much suffering house created by comparing myself to others by OSA valuating myself by making it about me and might success and my message I didn't realize how selfish I was being. There is a freedom to we there is salvation in service when I was wrapped up in addiction and eating disorders, my was selfish. My suffering made me selfish and my selfish nece may. Me soffer. Yes, I was traumatized. Yes. I'd been hurt. But I cared for. No one except myself people only meant as much to me as the emotions they could produce in me. I saw no-one deeply especially now myself, and I never ever had enough of anything. I made myself suffer with this constant need. I felt to preserve myself. I needed to preserve myself. I naturally in a motion really and physically I needed to fix myself and keep myself whole Anita keep making my inadequate self. Good enough, how exhausting I think what is truly rewarding about serving the world is this by giving my time money, love sweat blood patients attention by giving it every day as much as I can I propose that there is more than enough to go around simply by giving. I proved to myself that I have enough that I m enough when I approach my work and my life from this awareness. I realized that I am deeply connected with everything and. Everyone around me that is who I am. When I give to people I give to myself only give to myself, I give to people there is no boundary between us when it comes to love to love me into love, you his the same is all an act of unconditional service to compare is to separate to compare is to -ssume that you are different to feel inadequate in. Someone's presence is to put them into another category from yourself, and that is all a big allusion, of course, on some level. We are all unique and different born comes to worthiness strength beauty power. And love. We are all the same. No one is inadequate. Everyone is deserving in that we are equal. We are all equal storehouses of human potential waiting to be unlocked by universal unconditional love, and you can spend a whole lifetime unlocking those doors, and I'll be a life. Well, lived that is true success. So what it comes down to? There's nothing approve and there's lots to do my work your work. Our work is to serve love by helping ourselves and helping others. Our work is never done. Momma Gandhi said the best way to find yourself is to lose yourself in the service of others. So let us go and get lost together. One pair of sparkling is at a time. You just listen to the post titled how I stopped peeling inadequate in comparing myself to others of Ronca to Alava of Ronca dot org. Please show her some support by visiting her site. I have it linked in this episode subscription. Now do for today. Have a great Friday. I'll see you over the weekend. We're optimal life away. Hey, this is Dan from the optimal finance daily podcast, which is a lot like this show except more focused on personal finance. Justin handpick, the best posts he can find from blogs and authors, like remit, Sadie, Mr. money, moustache and more. And I read them to you five days a week. 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1043: Yes, More Please AND Don't Have It All Figured Out by Erin Blaskie
"This is optimal living daily episode, ten forty, three, yes, more please and don't have it all figured out both by Aaron blassie of Aaron, blassie dot com and Amir, very own personal narrator. Justin Melik reading to you from some of the best blogs I can find. This is an award-winning show thanks to you and I have to post today both from Aaron, blassie saws, Gary to them as we optimize your life. Yes, more Belise by Aaron blast key of Aaron blast key dot com. Yes, more please. I found myself saying this and his allowed in the middle of the woods. I was alone, but felt comforted by the canopy that the forest and belt me and is a beautiful spring day. And I felt renewed by the warm air and the big blue sky and the sun beating down on my face. It was exactly what I desired, even though I didn't realize how much needed it at the time, and I must have walked through the woods for nearly two hours. Have you ever found yourself in a moment where you just needed to stop and soak it in? Because it felt so incredibly fulfilling those moments? Our special and the reason that they are special is because they are being driven by life's natural compass, a sign that you're on the right path in the right place and getting exactly what you need. The unfortunate part is that we often don't listen to what our natural compasses telling us. We get distracted by the day to day my new show, and we forget to take a pause, take a breath, look up and see what's right in front of us. The reason that yes, more please. His powerful for me is because it allows me to stay present, reflect on the moment and get in touch with how feeling if the moment feels good. My ask for more of that feeling if it doesn't, I don't get discouraged. I simply course correct and move in the direction of that which does feel good. Let's go back to the forest for a moment as it stood amongst the tall trees. I wish spurred. Yes, more please feeling my feet against the dampers. That was in a deep state of renewal? Yes, more. Please listening to the quiet peacefulness of the deep woods? Yes. More. Please. Full deep breaths of fresh air. Yes, more please. The more walked in the more I let myself be guided by this natural indicator, the happier I felt the more fulfilled I became. My cadence seemed to match the environment and I felt more connected to the earth than I had in a long time as I declared to the universe. Yes, more please. I solidify in my b. Being that I wanted this and I wanted a whole lot more of this dig about your own life. Where could you infuse a little more presence so that you can feel into the moment and guide the universe in the direction of that which feels incredible. How can you reflect on your surroundings in your emotions to draw more of the good stuff from it does. Natural compass is available inside of us at any time we can draw from it and use it as a guide to determine what we need and to identify moments that are in alignment with that. So take a moment and ask yourself, what might I need right now? Once you identify that move toward it and soak it up and see if you feel like yes, more please is an order. If it is say it aloud, embrace what that means for you. If it doesn't fit course correct until you do find the thing that feels right as for me, I'll be guiding myself back to those woods often, man. Should you ever find me there? Don't be surprised if I'm whispering to the trees. Yes. More please. Another article from her in just a sec. But I thank you to Robin Hood. Robin Hood is an investing app that lets you buy and sell stocks. ETF's options, even cryptos. 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Don't have it all figured out by Aaron, Blackie of Aaron blocks, key dot com. I was on a coaching call with one of my dear clients. Someone I've known for a very, very long time and they asked me the following questions. What if I don't have any goals right now? What if I have no idea what I'm doing or one of supposed to do or where I'm supposed to be heading as my client spoke those words, I smiled into the phone. I took pause for a moment and responded to her with only a few words to start. Perhaps this is the universe is way of telling you to rest flashback to a moment earlier in the week where I found myself immersed in a conversation about goal setting and wishlists and bucket lists, and all of the other ways in which we track our desires, desires that once fulfilled we check off like chievements and a video game as the conversation led to rhyming off our own proverbial checklists. I found myself without a list. But instead a question, is it weird that I don't have anything that I want right now is not that I have everything right now that I may ever want in this life a rather. That I don't have any lofty goals that my in particularly working toward no big vacations. No off the charts life goals, and no material desires and very much in a state of being and presence. There's a lot of swirling around me in a lot of change about to happen in the coming months, but I'm not push push pushing toward the future. I'm staying still and watching it unfold around me as I recall the goal setting conversation to my client. I explained to her that often we feel pressured to set goals and have a plan and be driven. And when those things are not in place, we can often feel dysfunctional a bit disoriented law. Stephen, what if we did a reframe on our relationship to our drive in ambition? What if instead of always feeling like we need to have it figured out labeled characterized described and decided we simply relaxed into what is and what if we took it a step further and looked at the moment in time when we feel lost. Or confused as a much-needed well-deserved break a break from the pressure of lofty goals, a break from the stress of the overwhelming to do list and a break from having to be so put together all the time. When you get to a space of not knowing what to do breeze relax, enjoy the downtime. Be present, look around you and SOGA things like the color of the grass, or the change in the season, or the way your house smells. When you walk in the door, I promise you that the universe is merely giving you time to rest because darling, whereas coming for you is big bigger than you can fathom and you need to be ready and well rested for it. You just listen to the post titled. Yes, more please and don't have it all figured out both by Aaron blassie of Aaron, Blaskiv dot com. And I'll keep this ending. Nice short for you today. Have a great rest of your Friday. A great start your weekend and also you through the weekend where your optimal life awaits.
1269: A Journey Without a Goal AND Create Structure When You're Floundering by Leo Babauta of Zen Habits
"This is optimal living daily episode twelve sixty nine a journey without a goal and create structure when you're floundering both by Leo about of zen habits. Don net and very own personal. Narrator Justin Melik reading to you from some of the best blogs on the planet with their permission of to post today, coming from Leo of zen habits slows get right to it as are optimizing your life. A journey without a goal by Leo Buddha of zen habits done net. Nearly every activity we do has a purpose. A goal in mind, we drive to get to work to the store to a class or party, we walk for fitness, or to get to a specific destination. We work to achieve something to reach certain numbers. We work out to get healthier to get on a nicer body. But what would happen if we gave up the goal what would a journey without a goal? Be like imagine sending out for a walk with no particular purpose. He might go in one direction because there's a nice explosion of flowers over there. But then explorer different direction. When you see someone playing music, then go in another direction because he occurs about what's there. No destination in mind. Nothing to achieve just curiosity fun and not knowing what would it be like to work without a goal? He might write something for fun because he want to get it out of you without knowing what the effect of the writing would be you would figure out the work as you go without knowing what the finished product will look like what would it be like? To live life, without a fixed plan without knowing where you'll be living in five years, or what you'll be doing or what you want to achieve. I don't know the answers, but I do know that I've been freer as I've learned to let go of goals, fixed plans and fixed Esten, Asians how to flow. I've long been a planner and a goal setter. But I've been learning a different way over the last few years is a radical shift in thinking and doing to a freer flowing mode of being how does it work? Well to be honest. There's no one way. But it goes a little something like this you wake up excited about being alive. You wonder what do I feel like doing today, nor constrained to anything at this point? But the question is important, so you get started doing something you're excited about having fun doing. It is that thing you're doing a destination a goal wallman some ways. Yes, but is not fixed. There's no set plan in the destination doesn't matter as much as the process the journey. You start. But you might shift as you go, depending on the flow of ideas on working with others who might have ideas you Denver. See on things that happened a along away. You couldn't have predicted these things when he got started. See you have to adapt. No plan Canada's obey all of this. No goal will be adequate to the task. He might even completely shift. If something new comes up if a new opportunity presents itself, you let go of your idea of what today was going to be because these ideas of what should be our lightly held. They mean nothing really. And the important thing is the flow you learn to be flexible, instead of sat he learned to be good at change and uncertainty. Instead of fearing it as things arise, you adapt and let go of your plans and goals. You move with the flow of water with the changing landscape, you're free to do this, because you don't care where you end up, you just want to be present in your journey be compassionate with each step and have fun each moment, along the way the destination becomes irrelevant. No destination or goal matters if they are all good each step along the way, then becomes the destination, and his exactly where you should be. And have another post from Leo. But I, I don't know about you, but I've had multiple computers. Give me the blue screen of death or crash in the middle of an update. 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Living go there play with it is start protecting yourself from potential bad times start today and make sure you visit back blazed dot com slash optimal living so they know where you came from a continuous support the show. That's b a c k b l as E E dot com slash optimal living. Crete structure. When you're floundering Belial bout of zen habits Don net. The best of intentions often flops around, without some kind of structure. You might decide you're gonna change your diet and lose some weight. But when mealtime comes around you just eat the same kind of food, and still get to full from eating too much, or you decide you're going to procrastinate less Ambi more focused, but then after a short success you start going through usual distractions. You start exercising, but then get lazy and fall off the habit. You star waking early. But then have a late night or two and the whole house of cards comes crashing down, we start with greed intentions, but the harder ventures causes to flounder around, then we repeat that Sar. With good intentions, flounder around over and over again until we feel hopeless to change anything or start nourish, a deep sense of inadequacy what can we do to change things? It's not you. It's your method. If your current method of change isn't working starting with good intentions, then floundering you have to try a new method. Unfortunately, there is. And just one perfect method. But there is one thing you can do to vastly improve your method add some kind of structure, how structure improves our method. What do I mean, by structure, anything that keeps you sticking to the course, better anything that holds you to your intentions? The possibilities are endless, but here are some comedies ampoules one Cree rules, no sugar. Don't go. Two days without a workout. No electrons after nine pm meditate, first thing upon waking to get accountability. I like having a group of people who I report to every day, a simple way to do that is to use an app like run keeper or some kind of diatribe cking app. We have friends on the app who will see your log, another ways to create a Google spreadsheet and use it to track. How you did was a goal each day or just Email people each week, who agreed to hold you accountable three set reminders. How will you remember to do what you said you did? This is a huge obstacle for. Getting instead of forgetting set reminders, on your phone on your computer and little notes, all around, for do it with others, find a workout partner, a collaborator on a project a group class doing a project or going through change with others is always an amazing idea five get a coach. I am a big believer in coaching for many reasons. But one of the simplest reasons is that if you have someone you're paying in reporting to you'll simply be much more likely to follow through and a coach can see patterns that are getting in your way that you can't see number six create a challenge, or game of Don challenges with my family or friends like push-up challenge drawing challenge, reading, challenge, and also made up games with points and rewards. It creates structure and makes it fun to amazing ways to create change in your life. You can see the idea. Look, can you do to add structure to your change or goal. You just listen to the post titled a journey without a goal and create structure when you're fond, Orie, both by Leo, Bada of zen habits Don net as actually why I started Arthur D challenges, at old, podcasts dot com. It's in the weekly newsletter. So make sure you subscribe to that, if you wanna participate, he could join four free at old podcast dot com they'll do for today. I'll be back tomorrow with another post. So see there in the minimalist Monday show, where optimal life awaits.
1050: [Part 2] How To Make Quantum Leaps Personally and Professionally by Benjamin Hardy
"This is optimal. Living daily episode. Ten fifty how to make quantum leaps personally and professionally part two by Benjamin hardy of Benjamin hardy dot com, and we very own personal narrator. Justin Melik reading to you from some amazing blogs and books to help you optimize your life. Happy Friday if they get to every plate experienced full plates and fuller wallets with America's best value meal kit. These are chef design meals for just four dollars ninety nine cents per serving and recipes come together in about thirty minutes, definitely faster than a trip to the grocery store. So for fifty percent off your first box of every plate. Go to every play dot com and enter the promo code old fifty percents off is like getting to dinners for one Cup of coffee. Now does the promo code oh L D at every plate dot com for fifty percent off your first box and today's a continuation from yesterday. So if you're new here, it'd be best to listen to yesterday's episode before this one. Otherwise, you'll be hearing the middle and end of an article only, but if you're all caught up, let's get right to part two and continue. Optimizing your life. How to make quantum leaves personally and professionally part two by Benjamin hardy of Benjamin hardy dot com. What conditions will make the achievement of your goal inevitable quote. Social psychologists argue that who we are at any one time depends mostly on the context in which we find ourselves. But who creates the context the more mindful? We are the more. We create the context we are in when we create the context, we are more likely to be authentic mindfulness. Let's see things in a new light and believe in the possibility of change, Allan Langer. Most people approach goals and personal improvement. The hard way rather than changing their environment. They strive to overcome their current environment. This is the essence of willpower are individualistic western cultures of session. Willpower is the slowest and most ineffective way to evolve focused on incremental and linear growth, thus focusing on willpower is a strategy for change will never allow you to make quantum leaps in your life. Willpower is an uphill. Battle continuously dealing with the same situations. However when you commit to an enormous goal that far exceeds your current capability willpower won't solve your problem, rather, you need a new environment that organically generates our goals. A context that forces you to become more than you. Currently are once he designed the right conditions your desired behavior naturally follows. You get to decide what you want. You have the power to Corinne environment. That demands you to grow into your goals, if you want to become a world class cyclist your environment will need to support that goal. If it doesn't Mike most other people you'll be required to use willpower. When you won't achieve big goals as Dr Bruce Lipton has said in his book the biology of belief, quote, just like a single cell the character of our lives is determined not by our genes. But by our responses to the environmental signals that propel life and quote consciously designing your environment is I creating a river that runs directly toward your goals is like entering. A slipstream that pulls you forward at increasing speeds what role. Do your environments require you to be quote acting is not a metaphor. But rather a model that you can apply to both life and work. Michael port after you've decided you're goal and created the context you'll need to determine the roles or characters you will play to achieve your goals. The truth is in every situation and human interaction you're in. You are performing your behavior in the roles you play in your relationships influence other people how do you want to influence those around you who do you need to be to achieve your goals? What will your voice be what is your role authenticity involves deciding who you will be and the character you will play even if at first as character feels unnatural to you as Scott FitzGerald has said, quote, the test of a first rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in the mind at the same. Time and still retain the ability to function, and quote, your most authentic self is who you intend to become like the men in lingers study, your view of yourself will transform you even on a biological level act as if quote, if you want a quality act as if you already had it William Jane's, you can develop to mastery nearly every quality and ability, of course, there are certain constraints by for example, can't make myself seven feet tall. However, if I wanted to I could become a world class musician or leader or missionary or entrepreneur or teacher or writer or computer coder when it comes to skills and abilities, your potential is seemingly limitless if you've said a clear indefinite goal far beyond your current self created conditions that facilitate that goal and determine your needed roles. All you need to do is act as if you are already. He that person when you take huge leaps like this. You will absolutely be stretched often it won't be pretty you'll Cosby be living beneath your situation, you'll feel like a fraud the impostor syndrome will be exquisite your current soulful often show itself, even when your environment requires you to be so much more. But over time, you will adapt to your environment. You will come to play your role. So naturally, the you'll no longer be acting acting as if will become acting as is you will become who you intended to be which is your most authentic self and in doing so the attainment of your goals will be natural and inevitable developing important relationships, quote, the bigger the dream the more important the team, Robin Sharma. It'll be impossible for you to grow into your roles without help from trusted, friends and mentors and the book who's got your back teeth for Ozzy dispels the myth of the loan professional superman and the rest of our cultures. Go it alone mentality. According to for Ozzy, the real Pat is excess in work and life is to creating an inner circle of lifeline relationships. These are deep close relationships with a few trusted individuals who will offer the encouragement feedback and generous mutual support you need to reshuffle potential. These lifeline relationships are the people who make sure you don't give up in quit without these people you will fail the situations. You'll put yourself in will be too much for you to handle alone conclusion taking massive leaps of faith quote too. Many women still seem to believe that they are not allowed to put themselves forward at all until both. They and their work are perfect and beyond criticism. Meanwhile, putting forth worth at his far from perfect rare. Early stops men from participating in the global cultural conversation. I like that feature and men they're absurd. Overconfidence the way they will casually decide. Well, I'm forty one percent qualify for this task. So gimme the job. Yes. Sometimes the results are ridiculous and disastrous. But sometimes strangely enough it works. I man who seems not ready for the task not good enough for the task somehow grows immediately into his potential to the wild leap of faith itself. Elizabeth Gilbert quantum leaps and instantaneous change or completely available. The growth you seek in your life. Doesn't need to be incremental. It can be exponential. You can experience radical even quantum improvement. The process is simple. But not easy. You'll need to know what you want and take enormous leaps of faith to get there. You take leaves a faith by putting yourself into manning situations that require you to be substantially more than you. Currently are in those situations you'll need to decide who you will need to be. Be an act as if you are already that person as you adapt. Your difficult environments, you'll evolve into a new person with expanded consciousness, stretching your views of yourself and your possibilities. There is no cap to your potential, your identity is fluid. You get to choose. You just listen to part two of the post titled how to make quantum leaps personally and professionally by Benjamin hardy of Benjamin hardy dot com. 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Melik Kaylan 6-30-19
"Good Morning America. This is the Katherine table. Truncates Matiz here, Sunday morning, what's going on in the Middle East? What's going on in Turkey? It's a NATO country but is it really NATO country there so much turmoil? Eyewitnesses morning as Melik Kahlon and Maliki Kahlon is an expert in that whole area. He has the last three decades. He's written for Newsweek, Wall Street Journal, Forbes, and a number of other publications are good morning mister Kahlon. How are you this morning? Good morning, John. Very well. Thank you. Now you're an expert in that whole area and you've recently written about it. What's going on in Turkey are the people loyal to the western world or are they turning all I think it's it's a complicated situation. But essentially, the no president, who's swapped his position of power. From prime minister to president in order to remain in control aired. The one I'm talking about has effected kind of state capture by using his position and his party to keep meddling with the democratic situation that the democratic structure that so that he and his people essentially eked out there majorities, will many, many years. And he's essentially unpopular, and this latest election for the municipality of stumbled for the mayoralty stumble, pretty much indicates that, you know, he's, he's control on B on the popular will it has slipped. And now what does that really mean you know, turkeys, a big country and has many people seventy eighty million people? Now they chameleon. Yup. And. Just because he loses one section of Turkey, the eastern boo area. Does that mean that there's a trend? What does it mean? It's actually a very shop question of very important question. And there's been a loss of hyperventilating of on the optimism outside that this proves that he's democracy. Is back and that you can't define the popular will forever. And so on. Unfortunately, I don't quite see it that way. Just because having watched our deal on all these years. He really cannot afford to lose power. And I think the only way ultimately real you lose. It is not necessarily through the ballot box. Assemble is obviously a very important place to lose. Because lots of the revenues or the national parties come from his stumble injury, the big revenue generator. It looks to me like at the moment. This setback is one that he's going to find ways to isolate one of the reasons why they annulled the first election, several months back and impose a second election wished. They lost by big Amman in, by the way, was that as soon as the new guy mom, all came in Ross time, he mmediately started going through the books and he started revealing how much money was being siphoned off into the ACA party, private funds, which is a sort of mirror of, of what happens in Iran, you know, all these foundations and charities that the national revenue goes into the that are opaque, and that become really the control and the and the possession of the people in power. I it's a similar system that they'd set up and the new mayor immediately began to reveal all of that. And I think. That's probably one of the reasons why they had to do the recount, but I, I suspect also there's an element here of the one having established seat of power in, in the presidency, which has control over so many of them beavers of, of, of power of state, our, you know, whether it's rule by decree or dissolving parliament or declaring emergency and so that he actually doesn't care that he's lost. The history will ultimately doesn't care. I mean each has. But ultimately, you know, he knows that he can still steer the ship of state sufficiently that this is not necessarily a big moment of panic for him now topic, whether he's dealing with Russia, and he's a NATO country. Not the United States or NATO countries are going to sell them additional arms, which ways at flowing right now or. He's trying to find a middle way that we see when all the guards and politicians effect state capture, where they try to zigzag within the boundaries of Russia or the west and, and they can keep that going for number of years, ultimately, though, what happens is that, that poss- narrows, and narrows narrows, and you have to kind of make a decision and everyone one has come to that moment. And I think he will, you know, you'll get these missiles from Russia. I don't think he's going to stop that. They keep saying it's, it's a done deal. It's done. These unnegotiable, you know, and I think that's probably going to be the beginning of the moment when as happened in Ukraine, as, as just happening in Georgia. Now when there will begin to be popular reaction against his general direction. I mean he can only do that. It's a kind of fake neutrality basically, but ultimately, he's trending towards Russia, because Russia is in the business of protecting all the gawks that come to power in, in many of these countries and the only oxyde hide their money, and the opacity of, of the dealings, and so on Russia's is kind of, on that side of a whole new system of, of governance. And that's why are on needs them some byles, maybe he's going to go in that direction. I think. Is going towards the Russian direction. They NATO countries don't trust him one hundred ten percent. Last question is what who's the military loyalty, a loyalty to NATO countries. Or are they loyal to earn a gun eight to really tough one because he's, you know, tried to winnow out all the independence of the military. I think that's partly why he's getting the Russian missiles because he doesn't fully trust the military. A lot of them have been trained abroad, so they have a different ideology in a different outlook on the world. And there's as a result, still a little bit of an independent force, and he has tried to find ways to keep them occupied in Syria. He's tried to, you know, he keeps arresting hundreds and hundreds of officers. So the military is still dodgy for him. And, and I wrote a column few months back about why he wanted the S four hundred missiles from Russia, and I think it's primarily because during the CU some of the airforce. Actually took the side of the coup-plotters and the airports is not something you can control their when you can't fire NATO missiles at them. So you need Russian in order to control potentially. He's on airforce buying the Russian missiles to suit his own air force. On that is I suspect that's what's going on now. Okay. Well, thank you. Maliki tian. I think we've covered about what, what the heck is going on there. And basically, he's not trusted by the NATO countries that they frozen subserving supplies of, of missiles or airplanes to him. Right. So we're in. We're in. No man's man until something happens is your any indication that there's any kind of coup brewing. No, I don't think so. I think they'll be even less likelihood of that with Imola winning these elections in a country into the way, this, this loss of to add the one allows him to go on saying, well, you see, it's a democracy. I mean this wouldn't happen in a true dictatorship because people accused him in Turkey of running a dictatorship all the time, and this is the kind of thing that will learn to say, no, no. You see are undemocratic. Which means that I've. I've been legitimately elected all this time. But I think there's enough hope that the democracy is still alive that there won't be any coups or any interventions of this kind for the time being. Thank you so much for pointing to the American people. What's going on in that area? Keep you is amuse open. And hopefully, we'll talk to you again real soon. Thank you. Thank you. This is a round roundtable. We'll be right back.
Malik B, Founding Member of The Roots, Has Died at 47
"Maliki be founding member of the roots has died at forty seven. Los. Angeles. Me Be a rapper and founding member of the roots has died. He was forty seven. The group announced the death of the Philadelphia born MC and a social media post Wednesday, the cause of death was not released. Maliki whose real name is Malik Abdul Pass. was a major contributor to the group which includes a mere quest, love Thompson and Tariq Black Thought Trotter. He appeared on four albums before departing the group in Nineteen. Ninety nine, the group won its first grammy the following year the roots paid homage to Maliki for his rap talents and faith. We regretfully inform you of the passing of our beloved brother and longtime roots. Member Malik Abdul Basset. The group said on twitter may he be remembered for his devotion to Islam and innovation as one of the most gifted emcees of all time? We ask that you please respect his family and our time of morning. Melik be returned as a featured guest on the group's two thousand six album game theory and rising down in two thousand eight. As a solo artist, he released two studio albums named street assault and unpredictable.
Yo Son Didn't Make The Team
"All right guys coming up at the top of the hour right about four minutes after it's my strawberry letter for today, subject the low down and dirty deacon. I said the learner down and dirty deacon. That's right. The nephew is here with today's prank phone call. Shirley a lot of parents hate the head some get the call. You know it happens sometime Yo son. Didn't make the team. I will say it again y'all saw. Didn't make the tate. hello. Hello. I'm trying to reach miss. This is she an masters calling? This is coach Watkins up at the up at the school? How are you? Hey, coach walk in some fine. What can I do for? You? Listen we've had maleek out for the last week and a half he's been coming practice. Here the at the junior high school in wanted to reach out and give you a call about everything that's going on. Oh. Yeah. Well, I know he's really excited. He can't wait to start the season. He's easy. He's ready. Also you know what? I. I'll be honest with you a great kid and he's got a good heart and he's he's really really really trying and trying to produce as much as possible. Well, you know he loves the game and he's been playing since he was a little kid he. Yeah Yeah. This is you. This is the seventh grade. This is the first time some of these kids that played. Organized football and and this is the first time playing school football and it's it's a big. It's a big transition that have you been playing little league ball, a pop warner or whatever you WANNA call it. It's. It's a big difference in a big transition to go from one to the other you understand. Yeah I do understand the league is working really high. He's ready. Well, let me let me say this my main reason for calling us letting you know that. As a right now is is not going to be able to make the cut. As far as what you be. Well he's not gonna be able to make the cut as far as being on the team for this year now I. Wait a minute. You said. Wait. You said that Maliki is not to make the team. It's not gonNA. Make the team. He's a great kid. You know he's a great. Kid But. When he didn't play Pop Warner and he was quarterback. So what are you talking about? He's not GonNa make the team this year he was the best had on that squad. Okay. You know what? I've heard a lot about him. I heard he did a great job. Wait a minute wait we have you seen his twenty touchdowns in a season. Understand how the Kansas out there But. You know what but right now we got a lot of different kids that are coming into this particular school. So you know the competition is going greater and greater than what we could possibly understand. Wait a minute. This is seventh grade. First of all everybody makes the team nobody gets cut in the first place you gotta at and a beating. So you tell with me, my baby ain't none of them teams right right now. Miss Lydia we you know me like I said Maliki is a great kid I like it. I know that he's a great kid. He's a ballplayer. Now make sure that those come telling me that he's not good enough to make the cut on on the seventh grade team. Well, we're I'm telling me. Who is a quarterback? Who Yeah, you tell me what's going on? Who is the quarterback I actually right now my my my my son is the quarterback, your son, but well, I mean. Played. Actually the quarterback, he hasn't done any pop warner anything but he he really has what it takes to be quarterback play football before he'd never played organized football. But. He he's going to be the quarterback for the seventh grade team is that what you telling me or my son actually starting quarterback but that doesn't Make, the team and my dad score twenty. Twenty. Down is that what you're telling me Oh hell no. School tomorrow I will be up there tomorrow. What about? You. Know what this is nepotism of what everything you got going on around here but no, my son had made. Hell No. Smoking. When I get up there women who? Would I wanna say this that if your son would take a year else north and try to get together and getting fundamentals together I. brought. Together a great football player when he gets to be headed today. Great. Fundamentals together. They never saw. What I've worked with my son you know and it's a little. It's a little awkward for me to try to talk about what my son is. You talk about but you don't know what you'll send 'cause ain't nobody ever senior. You just got this dream probably some that you did you wanna live vicariously through him Hell No. School played in high school and let me say this. I'm. That I can in the best of my ability to make sure that everybody gets a fair shot what's going on? You don't get the play. So what about? Probably. Work Better. So that's my mother's asked him I. Bet I tell you this. My son will be starting this year I, guarantee you that you don't want it. Okay. Right now all I can say is I need Melik actually bring his clicks back because my son's going to need them to play. What? Can Clean your again. Down the field. Definitely get. From my records understanding is that the clicks actually came up When they told you. Pay. Your. Record. You. Know, in the day she bush. Then, I'm GonNa, go back and forth with you all. I'm trying to say this damn league. Do you start looking for a new job get your resume together. I'm not going to go back. I got one thing I need to say. Nothing, you got nothing else to say to me my son will be playing and I'll be Santomero I have one more thing. I. Need to say to your your only thing you need to tell me if need to talk to tomorrow now I'll let you know that as soon as I, tell you this you're listening to listening to what? Is Nephew Tommy from the Steve Harvey, Morning Show Your Sister Iena got me to prank phone call you. Excess. I'm. Really of. Food at. School when they was going to old. Man I. got some. What is the. Bad. The bad is radio show in the lane. This team. Hobby Modest Joe. Oh Lord. Gmail. New Tops. You need to get show resume. Got Need Work. Through him. Down this. Aisle. What? Every parent of a student athlete is Back. Sportsman. Dolls last year you. Make the team I last. saw. All this summer that nepotism pin. Yes, she did say. No how you? Think. It's totally. Right there. New Thompson Batch. Big Ups all the coaches as coaching all about. We Love Y'all we appreciate Y'all man, we put our kids in Y'all hands and y'all try to make out the leads out of them. So Damn Net. If you don't play man I'm lady on the phone. Great one king. All, right. Strawberry letter this subject the low down and dirty deakin we'll get into it right after this you're listening to Steve Harvey Morning Show.
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"Welcome into at the podium. This is a newcomer addition brought to you by the five folks Espy nation and leading green nation. I am your host Michael kiss. You can follow me on Twitter at Michael kissed NFL. That's K. I S T. So we've already alluded to the press conferences, we have on tap today. The first of which is going to be the free agency addition of Melik Jackson, former defensive tackle for the Denver Broncos and Jacksonville Jaguars. He signed a three year thirty million dollar contract with the Philadelphia Eagles to complete next pleasure Cox. It's a nice addition. And we've got pieces up on him over at bleeding greenish in dot com. Benjamin so lack has his film review where he gives a positive outlook on Jackson pass rush potential while showing some concerns against the one those concerns, by the way are addressed in the press conference year about the here with Jackson speaking on it. I've got a piece up about beliefs valuation matching his valuation. Go check that out as well. Next up on the press. Conferences is Sean Jackson, y'all know who he is? He was acquired by the eagles in a trade in a late round pick. Swap Szanto so reworked his deal with the eagles to the tune of three years. Twenty seven point six million dollars. We have a reaction show on that trade here. A bleeding greenish in podcast and the latest BGN radio devils deep into the subject next up on bleeding greenish is going to be a brand spanking new kissed and Solex show. We're going to be talking about the eagles front this philosophy at the running back position. Lot of people are freaking out for us. We're gonna be talking about the official visits that the eagles have brought into this point talking draft prospects. Also the draft prospects in play at the twenty fifth overall selection. Stay tuned for that. But for now, let's go to the podium. Well, well, I think the eagles Missouri. Howie coach Schwartz coach Peterson for bringing me here. Very excited start. Yes. Want to start with that? This is my high school Letterman jacket. I wanted to wear show the kids hopefully back high school area that they can want to to be up here. And you know, make come true. So this is relatable. Can you give us a sense just from time to got released from Jacksonville to win the the eagles called and everything dot what that period was like for you wind decided on eagles the period. It was it was nerve racking. You know, I think going through the season. I kinda saw what was happening, but you know, going through it as one thing, you know, you get release. It's not it's not a happy thing, you know, because then they don't have a job. So it was pretty nerve wracking. But once the eagles called and. They're really we just we just made a lot of the same sessions. They were great organization that would give me another chance to go out here and be one two can be. And that's all I can ask for the. Yeah. It was it was easy easy decision for any agency different this time compared to three years ago. The difference came out for Super Bowl, you know. You know, I was starting to whole year six year von Miller got franchise tag. And I was number one defense tackle this year. Got bins halfway through the year. My production was at three and a half sacks. So little more challenging trying to get my point across these teams about my value. You know, it's not the teams. It's not up to team to pay. You what you think you're paid is for them to pay what your market is. And so I think that was the hardest part for me this time just understanding. It's a product of situation in my market is this, and that's why I need to go out there and accept playing. Why Cajun y you were you were benched in the middle of the season. You gotta actually coaches, man. They told me I wasn't planning to run to good. And that's all I really, you know, reheard. But if you ask me come out the Pro Bowl year the year before I don't think that's valid excuse. But like I said, I'm not the coach I just play spiting rooms to Fletcher cops to run to be honest with you. But like I said, I don't I just play so to them to make decisions, and it is what it is role next Fletcher Cox defensive Tandel. What do you think you could add coming in here just helping you know, it's not like Jacksonville from route to come in be the guy who do this? It's not I'm coming into a team that has leaders and was Fletcher Cox next to allow me to be opened up and have more one on one Russia's. He's a force to be reckon with he demands double team. So hopefully coming here do what I'm supposed to do and take the double team him. So hopefully, it goes hand in hand appeal to play next. If it was a lot of my decision, you know, go somewhere where they had a good line. Because. Like, I said I want to get back to where I know where I can be into do that any good Delima around me. So coming here with these four guys Bennett. Excuse me, Barnett Graham Fletcher. I mean, hell I don't think there's a line in the league. So it was important comeback and comment and use my talents and have one opportunities. Before coming in here culture smash you, see the way they play you see the way they have fun. We were able to get some in New England sorry in England. And so that was cool. You know, just to see the way they play they run around Delima get off linebacker skiing it up in a safeties back. They're doing their thing and cornerback you're doing things. So I play free. I think that a new style of the league where you just go out there by the mouth and see what they do. And and I like that. It was awesome. Because I feel like that's what we tried to make in Jacksonville, you know, young guys. I mean, for example, reference we Pittsburgh Steelers two years ago. We were that old, you know, Steeler ball. We were those young guys coming in had nothing to lose. And just real gritting means just people in the face. And so that's what I'm trying to sorry has already had that here. So should be easy for me to fit right in eighteen. Gyms or did, you know much imports and his team what he wants from interior. A lot about them just thought the league hard nose coach he wants what he wants. He's going to get it out of you. And. You to give it to them. But once you work for him. He's a good guy. He'll treat you respectfully and give your up. Give your opportunities. So I think it's. I say players coach about he's a player's co statics expects and demands excellence say once you know, what a guy expected Ceesay. Cox plays early three technique, and as well, can you one technique? Do I can do for my opinion. You know what I'm saying? I think is that's one of the things that says me apart is being able to be able as being able to play off on the line and help wherever I'm needed to. So yeah, I'm just here this to fit in like I said this is flesh was team beeline and brought a hitters to help him out. And try to get us back to Super Bowl malate you when you were Jackson brought up how much the veterans in Denver kind of shaped your villi lead. Then brought up that coming into a locker with established leaders. How much do you think that's taking that kind of leadership pressure off a you will help you kind of in the day to day? I thought about the I think it will help me a lot. You know what I'm saying? Like, I said going in Jacksonville, for example. It was a lot. You gotta do. This team wasn't good. You know, we have to get back to when top guys in here. You know, we need to get guys in here speak to guys, you know. So but now here it's just coming here and just play football in a relief. It's a lot of weight off my shoulders. You know, I don't have to come in here and be the guy or say things or do things. It's just coming here and lead, by example. And if you have some say it, but that's not my role here. What do you think of your Patrick news, vans that you have over tier? I think fast. I think inside I'm long so maybe get on guys faster use my lent to stay away from him. Plus, I just had a lot of guys help me. You know, I like to I like to say von Miller has really shaped me, you know, I was able to be with Sean Phillips markets where clay's Campbell. So being around those ends slash three techniques. Mostly ends I just want to emulate my game after him. So me being able learn from them helps me slender faster guys inside. So I can essentially do the same thing they're doing out there just in a tighter box. So it helps when you have guys like that just to show you how to you can't take parts and make it your own. So me that Pro Bowl mental out to you. How how much is playing next Fletcher help you with that motivation to kinda get back there? And what's your main goal for the season goes to get back to where I know I can be you know, last year was very disappointing. I learned a lot about the business of the NFL last two years early last year. So getting back to where I know I'm supposed to be being who I know. I am showing the rest of the nation who I am. That Pro Bowl wasn't a spoof for hiccup or whatever you wanna call it. That's who I am. And make sure I get back to that. So having next to me, we'll push me like lace it. It'll push me. Hell he's exactly what I want to be. You know, first round come out here. Four time. Pro bowler future hall of Famer sell hell examples right in front of my face. Vote worked into death seventeen but was clicking that you. Was that the AFC championship you? Trouble. Your man, we were all run out to same cinder off four body Lima had had standing, you know, we just knew we were doing. I was just I think that offseason very seriously a lot more seriously. I've tried to last year, but whatever, but I just think I just I saw can be and bring in clay's Campbell. I saw who he wasn't. I saw his work ethic. So I think him really coming in helped me, you know, what I'm saying. See what it means? And see what it takes to go there. So now to have another dental should be good. Was benched? Personally. What was your sort of motion reacting to them very frustrating. You know? I was ever happened. So you know, I think you can kind of understand I was not happy at all. But I went in there. I still tried to go to work. I didn't try to be the guy. That's cursed. Not everybody walking around mad. You know, which is hard. But yeah, it hurt a lot. Because I thought I came here. You know, I feel like I brought guys in you know, I was a part of the culture changing and to give for younger guys and gathered on drafted hurts. But it's a business. And I understand what you understand that. You'll be better for you. Yeah. I've never been injured. So yeah. Personally. Yeah. That's the thing. I've ever had to go through just internally deals. Have internally deal with it. Talk to yourself. You know, talk to people, you know. You understand that perspective? I think from and I think that's how it's just perspective. I'm still healthy still ball, I'll be one somewhere else. So you just kind of hang onto the good points. Trust a healthy when you get your opportunity to play because I'll still playing little bit. You know, you just go out there and to show these teams how much of sake they're making showed his teams of how valuable you are. Pleasant that you feel contributed to you're fine. Being benched. Afterwards. Afterwards. How do you describe the season in Jacksonville last year? Just as a team you guys were coming off of that. They're really good. It was tough. It was tough. You know, it was really tough. We hired -tations everybody on that team high expectations coming in now year we all worked with hard. Nobody took anything for granted. Not like, you know, it's not like we went to championship. Like, oh, we're going to be back your next year. Nobody doing anything this off season. It was everybody went home worked harder than they ever. Did. I think he doesn't understand just got injured in every team gets ended. But we had a lot of first teams entered a lot of often got injured early. Hell we would just riddled with injuries, and you know, without death. You can't really do much fourth quarters because guys are worn down. And I think that's really what happened just injuries got us and by week eight when we were done by eight after that, you know, trying to make the team look good from the front office. I guess in the city they made. Guys. Baseball, truly. It is awful. I'm Phillies writer Justin clue. Join me every week along with John Stolnis. Liz Rozier, and Dr Trevor Strunk as we discuss all the ways billions of hurt us on our podcast hitting season as well as Stoorikhel anecdotes and raw emotional ramblings on our other shows continued success and the dirty inning. Subscribe to the good fight and you'll get conversations with insiders analysis of breaking news and stats stats stats together. We'll survive whatever baseball can throw at us. Of the questions. Good morning, everybody. How you doing? Just want to start off by saying is a blessing and a great opportunity for me to reunite with Philadelphia Eagles first off I want to say thank you to Geoffrey Lorie for bringing me back how he Roseman for bringing me back in obviously Doug Peterson. Near we'll take questions. So back kind of talked about was about for a while. What why were you so enthusastic coming back honestly minister going on twelve year? My career starting off with started here back in two thousand eight. Just auto memories that I had no from scoring touchdowns to build relationships with my teammates. And I just thought in my early days in my career, we have some special here onto going throughout my career and being able to have this opportunity to come back here, which fill is my home was a great opportunity for me to reunite with eagles into always even keep my own past couple of years. I've been doing some great things here obviously seeing the Super Bowl and just. Now, I can only imagine what it'd be like if you come back here and win a Super Bowl. So that's kind of you know, what made me be so happy and excited about reuniting with eagles had this all go down. How did you first? Find out that they were interested tell you us just woke up on Monday into got a phone call from my agent and looked up on the TV, and you know, seeing all being traded back to the eagles. So couldn't believe it still to this day. You know, very shocking, but you know, I always look at life like, you know, is destined to for things for great things to happen. I thought I'll put a lot of our work in to you know, my career and where I'm at still standing here twelve years whoever would have thought. So a lot of doubters lot nicer as always said, I wasn't gonna be able to make and I was always to small so still inside me. I still have the desire to go out there and still be great still have a lot to prove still for like, I was rookie sitting here son in my deal and the second round pick and just me knowing that I was able to come into this league. And do some great things. So I'm very excited about this opportunity. Different to maintain your speed been able to do that all these. Credit? That's hard work in people. I keep around me built a team of guys and men that dedicated their lives to me, you know, since the young kid. Five individuals that you know, when I was twelve eight years old. I just remember them calling me saying steady, you're going to hang out with your friends. We don't go to this park. We're gonna train and was able to keep that regiment and still to this day. Everybody's always give me a hard time. You never really live like that. But I would live enough but instead of lifting weights I'm I'm staying on track field. You know, I I kind of look at it as a Olympia tracker and herself that's how I've been able to speak because I still trying Gary combine win the best coach in the world difference between wizard biggest difference between now. And when we last saw you when you left. I think it's a lot. As far as you know, me mentally in Vienna professional when I was younger, obviously had the world has obviously coming into the NFL. As a rookie and starting and no have an artist assessor early in my career. You knows kinda hard to get a hold of at a young age. You're gonna I'm saying, but you have to go through things in life to order to mature. And I just for like now, you have a family have kids do everything for them. And I just think about what do I want to? What's the latest? I wanna leave when I'm going like, what do I want people to say about me and say I'll put on a life of my teammates, my family, my coaches, so just being accountable. I think coming to work every day and just putting your best before great. I was just no offerings today. I understand this is the business in, you know, things happen in this business as a young kid, come from Los Angeles, California. Obviously if I can sit here and tell you that I was gonna write out the story for to beat us. Well, probably wouldn't have told you, but not based say as you move forward in your life after every step, you take you can't go backwards, and I was just live my life, and, you know, just want to provide for my family and do everything I can to, you know, take care. Citing moments in your career. Just the walk of fraternity giants. Probably go down. You call it that man, you know, that goes down as one of the best and still to this day. Remember, we're in twenty nineteen that was twenty ten I still hear your voice calling. I don't care if he runs jumps fly guessing is, but I'm. I see is one of the best place in my career. You know, I have some awesome plays. But punt returns, very special and still to this day. I just remembered I like it was yesterday. Did you think it was realistic that you didn't evacuate some point? I never really can write to finish story outta Notre last five years. I will say, you know, going to division rival going to the rescue. Was it was tough obviously building built here as young player in NFL. And then obviously the way I left out of here. So it was kinda personal. But I didn't want to do anything crazy. But at the same time like I got Tony go play. He was twice, you know, after I left here. I was like knobby a great opportunity to go and play against them. So I was kind of personal about the entity. You know, you live. You learn I had great time. Great five years, and I just want to move forward and just maybe to come back here and ended on a great note. So Osama side about his team. I got some awesome player that got some some real exciting house happy to play with. I'm just looking forward to that. I wish I could tell you it's going on. So if you're still for like, you know, I'm thirty two, but I still feel like I'm running playing like a twenty six year old. So as long as I'm able to stay healthy, not take any serious history. Serious injuries. I'm going to be your mom in my career here. I'm happy. Like, I said I was able to come back here and finish off where I started. At the time you the number one receiver here different offense. Now like, you mentioned different personnel. Where do you see yourself fitting you? That part. We haven't talked about it. And I haven't talked to the coaching staff yet, you know. So just talking to how he was traded kind of understand the row would he thought all of these not the coach, but he's a general manager? So. You know, I'm just excited to see. I know we have Sean got Maggie Amine keeps Erz all of these guys that I used to play with earth's some lime still here JP. You know, my boy named Johnson Josi like I'll say I'm just trying to get back in just add to what they already have not really much. They need you know, so me to be able to come back at. So what what they already have is in my eyes lights out. And had you had any indication with him to decide to get back here. Just actually talked to him to say probably yesterday. So he actually saw. He tweeted on Twitter. So as far as being a young quarterback man having the world in his hands seen what he did as a rookie. Unfortunately, took the injury. I was the folks came in and want Super Bowl form. But just saying what he what he did that that year, obviously has arm out the world he could go to Deboer, very smart. Very egal-. Just say he's a good quarterback. So I just can't wait to get with him in, you know, work out with him an offseason. That's my guy. I remember Hsun. I was first couple of years. He was a quarterback coach here. So got a great relationship with him. I respect him to most knows pretty crazy lashing when I came to Tampa Bay we played them. I remember it like player got hurt any walked oversaw on. He's like now. Why are you so mad at me? I'm like, it's not you. But today, we got a good relationship those guys. So I think Joe Greg together in your veteran. Now, you've been other places. What have you learned about yourself in the fit and any particular offense to you look for certain things? When I say what I learned about myself is just learnt how to, you know, come to work and just be the older guy a venture guide guys look up to and, you know, these young guys nowadays, obviously when I was first playing here with eve as I mean, a lot of these guys are young ern NFL. It has to says now they was like in middle school, and you know, how highest move that. It was looking up to me a long time ago. So that's a great feeling to be able to still be playing at that level. And still have these young guys looked up to me and just curious to you know, how come to work how to prepare myself. How do I take care of my body like how may would still play at a high level? So you know, any niche I can give to these young is teach him. The games and the tools to help these guys to hopefully, they can have a long career as well to. That's what I'm here for. But one thing I was excited about being able to come back here, and install some of the stuff that I had my early days when you know, Brian Westbrook into dominated Wadham guys started me when I was a young kid now Mabel to come back and started solid unease. That'd be a great thing. Expectations. Do you suffer yourself coming in here? Now. Expectations for myself honesty's, a just to get come back here and just win first and foremost, the most important thing, you know, if you ask anybody in this building was the point of bringing back like me, you know to help the same win. I don't we're not in it for any other reasons them individually, hopefully accolades that stuff added on all that stuff is today, and we wanna win I wanna be able to put jury on my finger. I'll sat back and watched him. I wasn't bitter. I was happy about the same time. I know you know, what I started in you know, where my career was when I was here. So just to be able to get back to Tony in the city manufacture, first and foremost, each fans are unbelievable. I had great times other places, but you know, missing f these fancier unbelievable like no other like walking back in here. And what did you think about? Kaunda took to word of mouth from you know, getting off the airplane. You know, having all fans and just the rum of everything I'm obviously a great feeling. I didn't expect that you know. I just thought novelist coming in the police source and not look up and see fifty people follow me. And just you know, saying how happy they was. But an interesting story I actually came here two weeks ago for signing in valley foraging. Those just next Fleischer BG in may what you're gonna do coming up like hopefully, I can get back. But you know, just wanted things all the fans were just it was kind of bitter sweet, you know, had a little bit of blues has, you know, people saying we wish you could come back. So I just know what it's going to be like first game coming out that link man. Awesome. Failing. Process when you sign that he wanted to kind of rectify the initial release that we all notice points chippers who's pushing. What they can't say about how he Roseman. You know, we always had a great relationship. Even when I went on and played in Washington. Played in Tampa Bay like anytime, I was I was able to see him on the field pre-game. No. He always came up. You know him Jeffrey Loria is came up in in just gave me a hugging. Once again, it was a bittersweet situation into like I said, we all know how no was released in outta here. So I said we just moved forward, and you know, when wanna do this industry the best way we can. So everybody could be happy in you know, we can get what we deserve help you to have so much quarterback turnover in your career. How will help to know that you have Carson, you know, for the next next few years that he's your guy. He's your quarterback is not going to be this of guys going. I think that'd be a great addition having my career, obviously, you know, eleven years and infield never really plan with the quarterback more than two years. The kind of Iraqi cause you never really established at excuse me camaraderie with. You know with the guy. So I'm just looking forward to it. Once again, I know he has you know, he has a great career head of him. And he's he's a young guy going on his fourth year. So I definitely know what he wants to accomplish. Obviously seeing that you know, Super Bowl went without him. I know he has eager, you know, fire inside of that wants to get back to that destination. So no, all I can say is I'm here to help. And do what I can you know, it might be gains where I don't get any catches might begins. Get a lot of kids whatever that is. You know, the stories written for self. So I'm just excited to be a part of mentality kind of integrating back into the locker room a lot of Rosser turnovers. Ensure last year new leaders that have come in. So have you kind of approach fitting back in my honesty, you know, just to come in and show to work. I think you know, anytime you have guys in this league that, you know, obviously have a lot of success in, you know, been. Different places around the league. First thing you say is how how guy come to work. How would be accountable, and as long as you could come, you know, put into work in guy see that, you know, you're not taking a shortcut out in, you know, you're working just as hard as them or even harder. That's where you get your respect. That's where we are respecting his business in his game. And I've learnt that as a young player in obviously a veteran now in this league that you know, there's no shortcuts to success early in your career the success came so fast as young guy. Maybe it's a little hard to deal with you before about your shock that we hear about all the work to go into the game on how if you how you think he would chortling changed in that way. Honestly, like, I say at a young age, you don't you don't have to look at you know, how I'm taking care of my body how I'm resting, you know, how much my party, and you know, how much you know, doing all the wrong things. So I think as you get older you mature, you you wake up Iseo, my body's hurting a little more. Maybe I gotta go sit in the hot tub below longer. Maybe I need to get to work earlier, you know, get on the field and go stretch out. You know, it's just little things like that that you know, as a young kid when I was twenty four and a half to do. I just wake up a bed and go run. You know, I used to always say cheetahs don't stress, you know, I look at myself cheetah. So, but now, I'm a little older he's joins they they heard a little more. So I had to get out there early and just take care of my little more. But your number yet here. What you think? You know, it's. Yeah. We worked it out, man. Definitely talked to Macken appreciate you know, him than that number back. So do some cool thanks for that for receiver court, man. But it I never met Ono. How much I got argue about that, man. I guess this great things that I never saw. It's definitely good to have that number back. About about backing the team. The only accomplished wide receiver to get trading off season. Wouldn't you made of those moves and kind of what's happening position the way, you know, count a guys moving around. What I can say is glad we gotta deal with odeal. I know the TV's our team glad we don't have to deal with him. No more. So knows businessman. This is you know, you're on his businessman. It's businesses as a crazy businessman. You you never know what you're gonna lead out to man. And like I say as professionalized guide has been, you know, traded released hit the free agency market. You know, just been around NFL man, all you can do is just push best before network, you tell off you. You can't leave it up to anybody else as long as you're doing the best. You can make the better you every day when you wake up. I mean, I'm sure I'll Dell's Nakal feel bitter about anything. He's done. You know, what dozen things different maybe? But you know, as a professional all you can do is just put the work in, you know, go out to the field and play this. Well, we all love to do is to go out to field and compete and as long as compete at a high level, regardless of being traded release. They're doing anything, you know, you can walk away from his game. Game or still played his name and just be happy. That at the end day you put your best before over. Over temple that had. You know, a lot of talented receivers. They spread the ball everything. What why didn't work out there for like your own happy known? Yeah. Definitely a a gray. Stop in my career. You know, definitely was you know, Levin going to Florida going to, you know, a city where has some hot weather and didn't have to worry about the coast. So it was very exciting to go to you know, me looking at the team had a lot of side. A lot of great players. You know, I wish I had the answer for you just really playing out. But I definitely had a great two years of my career. And I wish them the best and no move for Philadelphia. Again, I'm in his green screen got on back home. And I'm happy about I'm stuck. So no. Sure, you guys will be seeing soon out during the field. I can't wait to get around to fly around eighteen minutes. Gee. My name is Spencer home by name is Jason Kurt. My name is Ryan nanny, we combined. We form the shutdown. Castrejon keep telling you this forecast is technically college football podcast. But it's also a show about care disaster regional grocery stores. We live Tennessee Batman homeowners associations bears in video games. Pittsburgh Batman, the hell of being trapped group, text unreliable legal advice. I mean, there's also some actual football discussion about coaches having contracts or coaches making terrible decisions or coaches, saying really stupid things or the NC double as saying released. Yeah, there's lots of stupid things in this big dome. Beautiful sport time Arkansas decided to use a captured feral hog as a mascot and it escaped and it wind up killing seven rattlesnakes a pig and a Coyote, sometimes we talk about okay allegedly. If you wanna take college football exactly seriously as it deserves to be taken come find us on apple podcasts Spotify or wherever else you listen to podcasts like this one. Full cast. It's not voltron unless it is. Dammit. Gamut?
131. Abby Wambach (re-release)
"This is a show about individual experience and personal identity. There may be times when folks use identifying words or phrases. That don't feel right to you. That's part of what we're exploring here. Please listen with an open heart and as always I welcome your plate engage feedback and I encourage you to continue the conversation in your own life and with your own community welcome to Hey Queiroz Cami your according from my apartment and yes you can hear some laundry in the background rattling around my actual in-person human book tour is cancelled which means that all those pre orders were refunded and also while you are in your home For the next couple of weeks I have planned virtual events with some really amazing raiders and podcasters and etcetera so. I hope that you've been following on social media because you can jump on them on zoom. You just need the meeting. Id Oh I should have. This already pulled up. You just need the meeting. Id which is for eight zero zero one nine nine nine one six. All the information about the different events is on my instagram. And my twitter. I've got events with Teagan and Sara and Not With Teen Sarah with teagan Quinn. Her own human and also I just had one with Rebecca sugar who created Steven Universe. Some other really awesome guests planned an upcoming can join me from anywhere and virtually go on a book tour with me That's what I'm doing to try to stay sane. Also I WANNA shout out Libro Dot. Fm which is a site that you can use to order the audiobook if you prior to the audio audio book the book should come out. Oh my book should come out tomorrow by the way the twenty fourth preorder the audiobook view. Libro you can then designate your local bookstore as the recipient of that sale. I think is really important to try to keep local businesses viable during this time. So that's something that you could do for the businesses in city You can go to Libro DOT FM and choose your local bookstore But yeah you can also get my book through Amazon or affable Anywhere and it's called. Save yourself and it is out tomorrow. March twenty fourth. In the meantime we are re releasing some episodes of Query. Because our podcast to you is shutdown. This episode is a chat with my friend. Abby Wambach who is an amazing Olympian and soccer star and human being and author? And Hey shoutout to Abbey's quite glennon doyle whose new book untamed hit number one on the New York Times bestseller list. Enjoy this chat with abby end. If you can grab that book save yourself would really appreciate it. Friends Take Care Aka me here. I'm on the balcony outside my apartment. I realize wanted to add something. Cancel tour for me. Means no income for any teacher months that I currently no so I just wanted to tell you that If you have it in your heart feel like they entertained. Save yourself is also available as an audio or e book on audible books. The big guys have it Amazon. Has IT or a noble? Has It Yeah cancelled tour. Means thousands of books returned with the tickets are not sold so anything you can do by care about it or just enjoy it and I hope you like. It came feeling still no careless. Good Morning. Good morning morning morning. We're actually it's currently happening. Can you believe it on this show? I always have folks introduce themselves. Would you introduce yourself well? I might be. I guess you've ever had that. Got A text message from her manager with my own bio for this very moment a and I just WanNa make it known to your followers in your listeners that I am not reading. This is off the top of my head. I mean all right. Yeah Yeah let's go. Let's let's hear that off the cuff android. My name is abby box. You may know me from the time that I played soccer for the United States. For many years It felt like centuries Melik such a long son. Amazing career I've got a couple of gold medals I've got woke up. Tb chip on. I've written a couple books now. One is coming out in April. Check it out. It's a wolf pack But I think the thing that I'm most proud of is that I am what I call the wife of Glennon Doyle. My wife is amazing. And she is Really brought me back to life in a Lotta ways. So that's the thing that I kind of attach myself to the most And the thing most past. There's so many cool things to discuss in that very off the cuff intro by WanNa Start Abby by I got a chance to meet you. We did some live shows together for part of municipal. By the way you are so funny like you're brilliant but you're just you're fucked your tiny. I swear on this of course yet. Your timing is so on point and you're funny and I just feel like we see the world berries similarly so all of your jokes really landed on me. Oh thank you for saying that you know. I don't know what it's like for you. I'll say when you started talking I was like. Oh my God humiliating. I think she's about to give me a compliment like shoulders changed. I'm just saying Oh look how am I going to survive this? You did it. I did it I got to the other side. I had a lot of fun with those shows that we did. It's like it's A group of people and I was the only stand up on the on the dates that we did. And that's like a very fun situation for me to do stand up in because I feel like I actually. I actually liked that vibe standing up like getting up in the middle of Some folks were funny but maybe not telling jokes specifically because I feel like I'm like Oh man if you liked those witticisms you're gonNA love these jokes. That have been crafted over years. You know. Yeah it's like. It's a perfect platform for you to just crush exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying. Yes we actually brought a real comic and put a real comic like yourself on stage you know together tours what we actually I met doing It's one of those things that I feel really proud of a been a part of it for a few years now and my wife is actually the CO creator of it And the whole idea was to get women. However you identify yourself to be celebrated end to celebrate From different walks of life from different artists in industries as you yourself found yourself to be the the actual comedian. I try to be funny jokes. Not Landmark like yours do but it was really fun to be able to share the stage with you and to see how real comedians actually work. Well what I what I also took away was watching you know. I don't I don't know how I would imagine that for you. That is like such a monumental shift. I mean I know that in your well. I don't know I would imagine I would guess that in like your role as a leader on your team and also as somebody who is so famous for the sport that they played that you had to speak in front of people a lot but was that often live like I imagine. You know you're like you have a lot of experience on TV. You have a lot of experience in the spotlight. You have a lot of experience. Speaking in front of large groups of people live yet. You know it's interesting. That's a good question because I think what I was able to do on steeled gave me a platform off the field and I think that you probably can understand this. That what your craft is right. What you're good at what you are. Probably most known for in the world of women that we can't be one dimensional In a lot of ways and I think especially in the early stages of women sort you know. Forty years ago title nine happen and It was one of those. It's been a long period of time that women have padded continually fight. What we currently now have And so I had. I knew at a certain point in my career I had to develop Not a speaking ability but the ability to get up and to tell our story and I think that's I like camp. I like didn't I never thought of that Abbey till this moment till you just said that to me. Yeah and honestly I think that many women probably don't understand that they've been having to do seventeen different things to enable them to do their one. Crass right men don't have that same pressure or responsibility and that is part of the long fight that women are continually having to go on and these these Requirements that it takes a woman to actually be successful is outrageous so the idea for me to get up and speak might hope. Is that one day. You know that that next player. Who retires won't need to have to have that same a skill set that that covers wide range because some people are stagefright. Some people are terrified. Getting some people aren't eloquent. Some people don't like that some people just WanNa play their sport or just comedy. You know and they should do that. So it's GonNa take some more time but It's not lost knew that I was lucky. Able to get on stage and to have confidence on stage and then have a story to tell like have a message. That's that's also kind of important. Yeah I think I think about that in my own job of course because I've lived my job. You know. I know the things that I had to do. That are tangential to my my specialty And I'm and I I like it and I. I think that there are some benefits but I think you pointing out the like of course is true and I think I've probably even said this. But the pressure on women in your field to lake. Explain the job that they're doing as they do it. That's what that's what it feels like in comedy a lot it. Sometimes I get this question a little bit less but I don't know five or ten years ago there was it. Every interview would include. What's it like being a woman in comedy and so it's it is completely it's a? It's just a lot of energy to have to explain what you're doing as you're doing it. I think that's a little bit what you're talking about two and yeah and it's offering rating because you know you spend ten minutes explaining what a woman's place is in Commie or in sport and I might get your wish for the next generation of women athletes and Women Medians Is that? They don't have to waste any time explaining what it's like to be a woman in comedy or woman in sort. They're just an athlete or they're just a comedian. Like let's drop stupid pronouns that people can't understand what freaking human beings. We go through the same stuff we travel. We SACRIFICE WE TRAIN. We blood sweat and tears the exact same so That's kind of my mission over the rest of my life. I've kind of made a new career for myself trying to make sure that the people who come behind me don't struggle in the same way that I did and maybe the same ways to eat it. Was it always soccer for you? Like you're a little kid. What were you playing as a little kid? I was playing anything anything right so I was. I still am a total attention or my wife says that I'm competing with the ten year old ten year old daughter for who gets she's like you're actively trying to get more attention than the child will youngest shower in our family like. I don't know what that means but yeah I was always a great athlete and I think that gave me a sense of confidence a sense of self and an ability that everybody else had so it gave me that. I think that other element that some people have inside of them to kind of continue to pursue that that elusive dream whether playing neyland picks or whatever. Whatever it is. You'RE YOU'RE END DREAM. Gold like the best thing that could ever happen in in in the thing that you love to do and I grew up in. A huge family is the youngest So watching my brothers and sisters play sports you know. I just kind of always had this knowing like I'm going to be able to do that a little bit better than them are. They athletic like today today today. Have Sport Sport Kerr even a even in like high school college sort of thing today. Play sports my sister back actually went to Harvard Basketball Harvard She was one of the number one three point shooters in the country at one point college. that was a very big claim to fame in my family until of course. I went to college in started winning National Championships in my other sister. She offer Xavier University. Oh that's where we went and met no way. No real yeah. My parents went to savoring mother. Have they ever been? What is it called Not Six flags isn't success. Oh Cedar Point I dunno naming places that are in Ohio. I have no. It was like it was a a an amusement park. That had this really crazy. Big Kings Island. Oh sure guess. They've been to kings island. Yeah I went there when I visited my sisters all I remember about the ad came from really athletic family. My brothers played sports all through high school and then kind of went for my dad wants college and never really pursued you on that so I was lucky I was lucky to be involved in a family that was very sports centric and valued for Given that I ended up doing it as a profession. Yeah what about your parents did they? Did they have some natural athleticism or any? I mean I'm imagining like what you would you tell me. Those facts The context that that's giving me that you weren't even like the first woman in your family to have to play college level. That's I mean that's extremely unusual and then especially like in the time when you and I were growing up 'cause like now like I mean this is still true now and it was more true than and this is not a huge gap between now and then in terms of time. But my dad was dad was a super athlete He was really quick fast. I think attracts ends. He football and wrestled but after high school went to go work for his father My my great grandfather and grandfather had like a a a farm San a little farm stand and then it turned into a farm so My Dad took over that business and never got to kind of see. The fruits of his Labor he lived quite vicariously through his daughters which which is so evident in the way that all might my sister Beth and Laura myself were very independent. And we're very strong in. My Dad will take complete credit for that but I have to on us in. Give most of the credit to my mom. You know being a a wife back in the gosh you know back in the late sixties early seventies Shoes a stay at home. Mom raised and raised US Catholic. So she had. She had a unique set of value systems in place and I think one thing that she really broke three from wanted us to break free from. Is this whole idea. That we needed to be reliant on a man Too Happy You know and I think that was something. All of us really took seriously. Mom always told me. Don't you need to make your own money and you need to put yourself friends a position where not serving. Only somebody else Yourself so I learned those real values and I think my sister's Eldest sisters doctor and now actually doesn't practice any. Martin mother of six children and then my next Laura she's she's a teacher so I think my parents did a really good job of raising us and they are not without salt. You know I mean God love them. They did the very very best that they could But I think you know they they really did put inside of US girls Idea of value system our independence not really has been with me throughout my life. Do you know where your mom got the idea like I think about you know her telling you to make your own money or something like that. That's like a radical concept. Yeah she got. Ill Nicholson piss money. Fair Enough Yeah. That's that's very good Causing effects as hard as he did right you can go to work in the morning all. She had seven children to to deal with a lot of a lot of people out there with Sushi work ten times harder because he was dealing little humans running around making a mess of everything so I think that I think that anger probably is a huge marker for her that allows her to to make decisions and allow her to treat us in deterrent dozen. Guide us in kind of a like. Put it in your words rockaway Well this is all like I I mean I can. I can really two ton of the stuff that you're saying you know. I was raised Catholic. my dad. My Dad always wanted to be a singer and then you know he's a lawyer so it's definitely there was a time when I lived in Chicago. And that's where he lives when I used to set up shows where my little sister's also singer and my family would I would throw these like Italian. Themed shows where my family would be backup singers for me. as a and by the way just so you know they love this job and it is very it's a very specific thing Having you know in my case I'll say having like my dad made all these choices to work hard to like further our social standing in like send me to private school things like that like semi to Catholic school to he worked his ass off to like shoveling asphalt put himself through law school so that he could send me to Catholic school which like honestly pretty sure that wasn't worth it And then you know so that then I could like turn around and like live the dream that he never got to live. I mean there's a lot of I have a lot of feelings about this a lot like there so there was so much loss along the way them trying to do right by US. But we have to remember. This is something I have continually come back to you in especially with my relationship with my parents and my mom you know. It wasn't easy coming out to them. It wasn't easy getting them to understand that I was going to do what I wanted to do. Whether or not they believed to be sin or whatever it was like I always have to keep reminding myself that our parents are good people and they were they were doing what they thought was best at that time because we have to remind ourselves at like. It's easy like hindsight is twenty. Twenty right in easy to look back on the history of our lives in all the things that went wrong and point blamed where parents were putting these crazy positions but at the time they were really truly feeling and thinking that That it was the best decision for us now. Could they could go back and cheese things now. Knowing who turned into of course I think that they probably would make different choices but they were assuming the time that we were going to turn into what would be quote unquote your average normal human being right and I think that that is really important for parents out there when they're making certain decisions about how to guide their children who lives is. You always have to remember that your kid could be However small percent it could your kid could be trans- your kid could be by. Your kid could be a homosexual whatever. It is whatever remarks you have to remember as possible so you never want to have to have your children unlearn stuff that you force them to learn as a child. Yeah that's real. I mean when did when when did you did that happen for you. When did you come out here? Folks just General Age Range. I was twenty two told my mom when I took her to a Mexican restaurant because I felt like I gotta do this in public for some reason. Oh I did it the Nordstrom cafe but it wasn't my my mom asked me but anyway. Yes Raboteau Norstrom cafe tuna sandwiches. Keep going on I you know and and I came out with this in the most strong way like me a little bit like I'm just like my personality is like I am basically all or nothing so I wasn't going to late whimper into the conversation I didn't want her to have any reason to doubt what I was saying so I basically said to her mom to tell you something I am a lesbian so you just the strongest word that you can use that makes it you know undeniable to here and she she. She did her very best. At the circumstances I think my mom has had known for a long time But her belief system made it harder for her to hear those words right so she told me a few times like no. You're not no you're not no you're not and you know ten years later. I had to come out again and remind her. I still am lesbian. Doma it was kind of our our our little secret that we didn't share with the rest of the family although I told my brothers and sisters Yeah cool. We've known forever you know so. Yeah that was that was when I was twenty two and then I think maybe when I was twenty nine seven or eight years later. Add to remind her that this was still the case had not change and this was my less when twenty two. What was going on in your in the rest of your life at that. Time like I'm trying to time stamp like were you out of What was what was going on. You just left to enter into the Women's professional soccer league was the it was then called the w essay and there's been a few integration since two thousand three is when I started to get more In invitation supply the national team in two thousand four. Two thousand three two thousand four mostly a main stay on the national team so once the national team stuff started to happen than it was real easy to sweep my sexuality under the rug and not talk about it Because I had this other massive focal point that I continue to relate with my parents around Wow that's really interesting. Yeah I mean if I were to go back in time I would do things differently because you know that was that was also not wanting to actually deal with the relationship that I was trying to cultivate with my parents in. So it's taken you know fifteen or twenty years actually have these hard conversations And you know being brought up Catholic. I was an I've I've just figured this out My struggle was. I felt like at the time I was having to decide between my mom and God or myself And you know up until six months ago. I'm almost thirty nine up until six months ago. I had this revelation like Oh actually God is not separate than me and Got Us not separate? The my mom and God is not church right so I had been feeling like this. This guilt Catholic Hill that were all natives feared an NCO less than shame about about myself. An average is getting really mixed up so. I'm glad that I've heard it's actually allowed. Have a little bit of dealing with my relationship with my mom because she's getting older. I don't WanNa have things that are outside so no for all of your listeners. Having the hard conversations now Will first of all saved conversation for you. Know you're just saving the conversation for later or or worse case scenario won't ever have it You Know God knows what happens after that. So have the hard conversations with your parents or your family now Get them to to see you. Get what you want to say Because you're going to have to stay at eventually get it over with. Yeah I mean as a particular set of circumstances though that to what you're talking about I was a little younger. I was But not much is nineteen but a lot of things were different between what you're describing in my situation. I was still in college. That my folks were helping me pay for and It was Catholic college and so I was still getting messaging. They're on like you. Couldn't you come out you could be kicked out of school So like for me that actually to your point It did sort of force me to have well. I I'll say I'll say this. Sometimes it's just like straight up not safe to have some of these conversations. You're talking about when it's safe yet but you're just making a choice or whatever and I get that. I think because of the specifics of what I'm talking about I did have to have those conversations like very into very Focused way just because Like I wasn't it didn't have any I didn't have this other thing going on or like a job or something else that was pulling me in a different direction. I had to dislike kind of work. It out with them. Over from like nineteen to twenty five is renewing old environment to you. Because you were being. You're asking them for their resources to go to to this crazy college. That's not allowing you to actually be yourself because of their belief system so it's it and I understand every situation very different. Obviously on safety is the number one priority but yeah That's our end I'm glad that you had those conversations. You know yeah I mean I have. I have a lot of compassion for you because like the pressure cooker of all of that. Kind of just. You know you're right like it did like. By the time I was twenty five. I was living back in Chicago and dating a woman that they liked and it was just like okay now we you have to get over this now look it was just it was so it was such a finite amount of time because it was so big and I'm imagining like in your case Yeah that's that's a long time to sort of carry that That like dance that you're doing where because I certainly did that during that time there was a you know. Went home for Thanksgiving and didn't bring my partner because or like brought somebody in. She was my friend like I did that all but it was all just very condensed and I certainly know how stressful that is to try to figure out like sort of who can hear what about your life like who in your life can hear what things about your life that. Komo compartmentalization is It's it's so isolating and And I I just have a lot of compassion for what. I'm assuming you must have been going through at that time. Which is a lot of a lot of like redirecting towards a sucker whatever or that also added a layer of pressure to the whole thing. Because I started to get a little bit more famous my name was a little bit more out there. And so you know my mom at one point just beg me not to come out publicly You know and it's this whole idea of perception. And the way that the outside world perceives your family in the way that I was raised. And how that's GonNa reflect on my parents so I have to hashing for my mom. Also but here's the thing you know it became this pressure cooker and that kind of led me down really difficult path towards the end of my career and a lot of things were kind of coming to a head for me and I was really struggling with alcohol In pills and and so that was the other side of it where I was placating and wanting my mom's security and acceptance while all the while not listening to my own needs And so I went the opposite direction in started making bad choices for my personalized for my personal body And so I think that there is. There has to be the balance of an protected. The there has to be protection in place for you in your cells. That is is long-term. Right as soon as I started to struggle. You know as soon as I actually started struggling and then you know when when it should actually hit the fan I got a Dui like my life changed as I got sober. And I was able to actually have these hard conversations on I was actually able to create boundaries and create a life for myself that felt really good because of my gang. S Not in spite and I think that I needed to get to that point unfortunately I needed to get so low that I just had nothing else but but the requirement of accepting who. I was and accepting of what a life I wanted and then go out and create it so you know as much as I would love to sit here and blame my parents for every little thing that ever went wrong in my life like I am here now. I'm because of them. Some of that struggle though it was hard and though it was very real has allowed me to get stronger in ways that I wouldn't have right and so it's not. It's not all for not right like I understand to everybody's stories different in everybody's Kane is different everybody's reaction to it is different. But for me I want to be the narrator of my story and in order to take control of all the aspects of it and I don't Wanna I don't WanNA blame I don't want to give out any of the power that have been able to curate for myself create for myself so I wanNA take that on myself and he. The strongest daycare can be yes. Be the strongest. Even be one thing that I feel like so often I mean even still now the messaging certainly when I was coming out even still now the messaging of Lake. But why do you have to be out? Or why'd you have to identify Lake you're wearing button downs all the time as like something that's queer or like. Why do you have to tell me about your life? You know like that kind of thing. I still feel like I hear that. I feel like I've heard that the entire time relates to you trying to bottle things up and it I it is. The premise is flawed. Because it's it's not A choice you know. I don't feel like it's a choice not sexuality. I'm specifically talking about whether or not to tell people what's real in your life. I feel like we still kind of talk about that. As if it's like you know Could sh should you come out or should you identify the things in your life that are part of Queer culture or should you Talk about what you like about being gay or anything like that and you know that's a lot coming from like a it's to keep us afraid. Keep US feeling marginalized often but I think another part of it is just like for a long time. I also think we're folks have have accepted that we could do this or that and I. I just feel like for long term health. It's not so much choice and that doesn't mean like you know everyone in your life has to know at this certain time in this certain way It just means that that like I. I don't I don't think it's the best idea for anybody to walk through their life being unknown by the people that they love our expression. I think you're talking about self expression right. And what makes comfortable is when they are able to express themselves in this little box that they live in or insular community that they live in and they see somebody lives across the street. Looks like them talk like them. You drive the same car who their kids go to the same school that is patriarchal system. That has been set up for all the rest of us. People to live by his. Like unknown codes of conduct be silent. Rules that we've been operating under and I think for the most part right people. Just do it like you ride. You drive your car. Rates other road is law. It's understood and we have these invisible codes of conduct culture right that either. Keep us feeling safe or unsafe. And I think that self expression is independent of each other. Every single person has a different reason or desire or way to create Who they are as an identity as a human as a Stanley as its nudity as a country. And what the Patriarch. He wants us to do right. It is they need to keep the people that they are governing and they are in power over afraid of each other so they've created. These boxes needs labels that make it easier to quote unquote understand each other and to connect to each other but actually what they are beers to keep us afraid of each other and to keep us apart because the number one thing for power fewer right. White Man. You're in power to stay in power to keep the people that they are in power over afraid of each other and I think that that's where this whole conversation gets an Fascinating second of all it's not easy An and by the way. There's so many marginalized groups that are being named. You're afraid of each other right. Oh I'm a part of this church so I can't be friends with any any homosexuals or I'm a part of this church I can't And and so my point being is off expression is such a beautiful thing but the culture that we live in is the thing that inhibits people from expressing way off because we might not have actual English words to define who want to deem is because we're multitudes right and so my wife's whether or not we talk about this all the time like we are. We ARE FLUID. Like you know we look at the political system right now and it's gross like obviously. I am not anywhere near pub inside but you actually look at what. Democrats stand for right now. That doesn't feel very enticing. Though I still going to vote for them it just feel ropes and so I've been made to see her not attaching myself to Democratic Party. 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That's more personal on what you're talking about so I think the way that you present you know the haircut that you have in like the clothes that you wear For small you look awesome. Thank you Second of all you know it's it's still Osceola it's no it's still Like your vibe of I mean what are you? What would you call your haircut? It's like Chen shaved on the sides than there is like a there's with a skunk long. Yeah Yeah You know like that's still an unusual look and it also is like there's people that have been claiming. Erlich wearing or trying on masculinity whatever words WE WANNA use And I'm wondering if that's like always been comfortable for you like having the haircut that you have or like wearing a suit to an awards show or Like a motorcycle jacket. When you're on in front of folks that always been something that felt. Interestingly enough I think that I I'll be super honest like it wasn't I didn't start doing it until I. I actually comfortable in my skin in what that means for me is a stop trying to please people on me outside in started trying to please myself Which is a very foreign concept for a lot of women out there. He had tried to match your insides. The way that you look on the outside is a foreign concept for human beings right. They see somebody wearing what they think they should be wearing an and they tried to replicate it right so so. That's an extra colonel motivator. So I've been doing a lot of work especially over the last. I guess must be nine to ten years Because you know being the Captain Olympic national team for many years I also felt a massive responsibility to not be quote. Unquote stereotypical lesbian. I was GONNA ask amber. What your Harry's to look like you know like the Like the wrap up tape or whatever the heck that's called you like wearing your hair that's like a very Soccer thing and also is like I mean I you know. Of course I play sports too. I didn't play sports. The to the sense that you did the messaging that I got was like okay. Play sports like don't be gay about it and I can't imagine that that stopped as you continue to have more eyeballs on you like if I was getting that messaging in high school. I can't imagine that like suddenly that gets less. I would imagine that would get more well with me as it relates more eyeballs more fame were more. Responsibility Capcom. I just didn't want the rest of the world to think that our entire team was gay. Yeah that was something because I was. I knew that there are millions of kids out there who didn't identify in the same way I did. That would look at the team and see the leading goalscorer needed most famous player on the team and not be able to see themselves in me right. I got that but then you know Megan or Pino came on the scene and all these other young kids who dislike. Didn't really care as much as I did about pleasing everybody else out there And we had enough players that are making name for themselves and as soon as I actually started to accept who I was inside and not trying to please the people on the outside I started to wear whatever the hell I wanted to wear You know living in La for seven years helped with that because I was just in board shorts and sandals the whole time But then you know now my style. Whatever you WANNA call. It has evolved in a way that events for businesses in corporate corporate world in their business. This is the business attire situation. Now like all right. Well I'M GONNA WANNA wear. I wear a nice cool pair of shoes and a nice watch. That's not like excessively dressed up. It's I mean. Certainly there are no rules on. What is a business attire? If you're somebody who is like the kind of casual tired that you and I were. Certainly that is very difficult to figure out difficult to find. You have to. You know the the ideal situation is like that you have the suit made and then like how expensive is that? And how time consuming and all these things super complicated I also. I just want to say that just on the point just on that very small point that you made your thinking like. I don't want everybody to think I don't want people to think everybody on the team is is gay but the the opposite side of that is that we are fine with the idea that that people would think everybody on the team at straight. It makes me feel like I'm so poisoned. We're also poisonous in our own. Shame and guilt of stuff that you know any. Glennon is all the days trying to remind me or or or point out things that don't really ring true that are still of the old thought process of the the patriarchy. And it's like these are things. This is something that is so important. That's why I wrote. This book is because we are NAM to in bleeding. Some of the things we believe like we don't even understand that wearing wearing certain clothes as a kid for me when my mom put me in address to go to church or whatever it was she used to dress me. Intel Brits Clothing of course I wore that shit go ahead. It was absurd and add this metaphor like I felt like I was literally holding my breath till the moment. Unzip IT and get it off of my body you know And did I die? No but maybe like a little bit inside like maybe part e you swallow enough poison. You'RE GONNA get set and I think that that is our culture. I think that a way that we all interact with the outside world. You know we are all drinking in a certain amount of poisonous especially all of the little girls out there. In the messages they see about what it means to be however they identify a woman a man whatever it is you know like we try to point our kids to things that are obnoxiously pager right whether it be like a hooters commercial. We like point to a me. Say What are you guys see? And they said we see a lot of boobs and we see women trying to sell chicken wings and we're like okay water women's bodies for like they're for running and playing and thinking in studying and Mike helping each other like okay. What are they not right so like we are having an also away? Parenting was a perfect excuse to unlearn some of this shit. We've been. Wow that's amazing. I mean you know what that makes sense to me. It makes that that gives me a lot of because I read the because I read. I read the Booker and Wolfpack in You know my my thought was like first of all I was like. Yay absolutely everything. And there's like is so helpful in like right on the money and like you know and then I also and I think maybe part of this is like just because of my job. I read that book and I was like I wonder how much of this is like. I don't know if you've gotten I don't know if you think about Alexis but I often think about the work that I make. It's like literally the work I needed to see an and I didn't see it out there and then like now I'm thirty seven and I make this work in. It's like it's it's it's for you you know it's like for collect the collective view but it's like for the the sad little me and like that is it's like so much hope there because. Oh my God I've I've put myself in the position where he can do that and then I have like I also kind of like sadness and I think that's okay too. You know like sadness for that Little Cami that I'm like. Oh Man kid like I wish you know. I wish. I wish you didn't have to write this book at at the age that I am now a write this Stand UP SET BECAUSE I. I wish that this had existed for you. You know and I don't know if you felt that way at all in writing that like the orange you you become the teacher you wish you had the income the that you wish you had become the backbone that you wish you had enormous at that. That is life right. It gives us perspective that gives us a deeper wisdom and understanding of life. Widely did what we did. And you know a lot of the stuff that I write about on Wolf Pack They really are just basic rules. That we all operate like like every person every woman out there can understand the moment when they were the only woman in the right weather e at work or somewhere else in and they may have something to say the date they felt like this urge to talk but then they looked around and they're like oh I'm the only woman I'm just GonNa stay quiet right or when you finally get the promotion or you get the raise and like the only emotion that you allow yourself to feel as a woman is just grateful right like not like we need to learn that it is okay for a human being regardless of what gender. You are how you identify that when something good happens like be grateful and you also get continue demanding more leisure. What's a freaking birthday? I mean I you know I also say like for Queer folks Also we don't always have to make choices to put ourselves in places where we are in the majority like they're certainly like shows or bars or you know whatever meet up spots that you can assert coffee shop But that situation that you just described as just as much more prevalent for Queer folks because like I mean. I think we're seeing with younger generations. That like the number of people that openly identifies is shifting. But you know sometimes you're you literally are the only person not just in this room late in the office or whatever because of whatever like our geographic isolation Or you might be the only person that's like also a person of color you know or whatever. It is the the Many things that are true for you and identities that you carry that like you know might might continue to pile on recent stew shut up or whatever so I definitely think there's also a lot of clearness in what you're speaking about of course And that is why. I think this book is so revolutionary. Because it can. You can attach yourself. Any marginalized group can attach themselves to all of these these philosophies of thought because you know the end of the day like there are so many people out there that have been persecuted or have suffered because of their Their marginalisation whether it be their flatness or their their clearness or their gender or their sexual whatever it is you have been persecuted from for being person like like. I have to like sometimes actually break it down like think about person as a little bit a little bitty baby baby and like how could you mistreat this? This little baby. How can you? How can they need to this baby? How can you like? That's how that's for me. Whenever I have Reggie moments against certain people in our government I like. I don't WanNa be that anger. I don't WanNa be that ratings right so you know. I want to be given the same respect as I'm requesting from other people and I think empathy is the way through. We have to find ways to build bridges and I know for some people on their lives have taken them in many different ways suffering in pain. But I think that the only way we can go through. This is by reclaiming our power as people and giving each other the same. Kind of power individually And and it's hard building bridges honey otherwise everybody would do it in the world five. Of course I mean I think even just anger you know angers like real difficult to To figure out how to deal with because because there there are you know. There's like small anger and then there's like you know big anger. I mean I I find that myself. Sometimes I'm I'm just in this place right now where I am wondering if everybody gets to have a bridge built to them and that's just so you know that's a real honest place analysis of the place that I'm in we're like I've just really have felt in the last couple of years like I've been working to that end for a long time and now I'm like you have to. You know I have been like putting in a lot of bridge work and so like I really expect like a lot. More Bridge work on your end than that. I think you've been delivering and it's but that doesn't that doesn't You can't control other people so the brave sir. Absolutely also they cross it. But here's the thing like you also have non-negotiable like we're talking about people who cross boundaries that are not acceptable for anybody to come to your island for anybody China Bridge. You're trying to span across to any any person out there right so like your non-negotiables are your your batteries. And you hold onto them And and if somebody can make it across your bridge like more power to them for me thing. I'm certainly not like you're amazing so if like you don't WanNa Come D. and hang out with me on my island like chatter. Yeah Yeah Yeah Fair Enough. Yeah Cool Fair Enough Man. I okay this is. This is a part that I like absolutely want to ask you an. I'm just looking that we have about ten minutes left. So I'm going to redirect the in this area ready. I wonder if people ask you about this. You'll have to tell me okay. Abby like Highest goalscorer of any human ever and international play. True that is true. Yeah okay so we're like like a real like a real goat And you are in your late thirties. You've said how does your body feel. Oh Yeah so. Do people ask you first of all yet. Will they do? Actually because every person on planet Earth thinks I'm the most fit person on earth. No I feel like you used your body like you used your body hard and you're so good and you and you and it was for a long time. Yeah years and I'll give you a little bit of rundown. I retired at the end of two thousand. Fifteen and your listeners. May Not know this about me. Fitness was not my favorite so having to do all of that to stay fit and stay at the top of my game. So many years was literally and figuratively. Just exhausting. I was just so freaking over it. I didn't WanNa do another sprint. I didn't WANNA lift another wait so I didn't for two years. I became very sedentary. I gained some pounds. I will gladly admit that I scared myself in in in the in the bathroom naked a few times. Like what is that on your ass valuate? Where did you come from? And and that was something that I actually spiritually needed. Because like like I was saying earlier like this external and internal motivation and what was once an internal motivation to be the fittest strongest and fastest quickly became an external fear of not making the team and losing my position. Not Scoring many goals. So I've actually been doing over the last six months. I start working out again. Six months ago and I've been working relentlessly on trying to figure out how to internally motivate myself As opposed to this this fear this external motivator that kept me on the T for so many years And that has been really hard but my body really needed a break. I mean I have a a titanium rod in my Shin. I've broken my nose. My orbit toes countless toenails. Loss shoulder issues Tour Ligament in my knee hamstring issues. I mean countless angles brands so my body actually needed to actually govern to a little bit of a hibernation So long story short my body felt like Shit and I I let my body off the hook for a couple of years and I needed that. I really needed like that spiritual disengagement from my actual body and then six months ago I just started running literally like forrest. Gump running just like running not suffering. 'cause for thirty years as a pro athlete. You kinda get comfortable in what we call the red zone which top heart rate zone And that is the period of which your body actually starts to shut down so develop lactic acid and Your your your body down when you get into that red zone not to get too boring and scientific on you when you to the red zone. It's basically like you. WanNa kill yourself in parliament that expression because I know that there are a lot of mental health people out there but that that is essentially what you feel like you you WanNa stop everything and you no longer want to exist And so having thirty long thirty year long career in that perpetual state of always pushing your body to that Max was something that I got over really quick. So I'm just going on these long or scum runs. That's what I'm doing now while well first of all I think I mean maybe you know this but people who didn't have your experience in your career I think we're we're also dealing with the equation that you just spoke about which is like the balance between what are you doing for other people are what are you doing for you know the way you look or what are you doing four to compete in whatever arena versus like what are you doing for yourself specifically as it relates to our bodies so. I think like you've you're SP- your experiences like so specific but you're also like you know not a Weirdo and everybody else around. You could probably relate to this concept of trying to figure out You know what's the stuff that she makes you feel good and I also I also think good on you Because another thing that was happening. You're you're said you're like look in the mirror like what is that. What that was is probably like what you're body kind of should at you know because of how bodies change over time but the kind of career you had your arresting your own development you know. You're you're like freezing yourself in time. And so you know Cigarillo Encino man moment where like waking up and and everything by shing really. Yeah but you know that stuff everything. That's that's happening is like it is You're using your body like a different machine than most people do and I'm really I'm really happy for you that you took some time and space to to figure out how you wanted to use the machine that you have now. Yeah and it's a work in progress. You know like Sherwood Used to be servicing. My Body as you'll be able to go in suffer a now. I haven't made the switch that I'm not supposed to eat so many fuelling calorie straight so beaching my body that I don't require as many calories. I'm not expanding as many calories. I mean you know people wouldn't ever think about me but I really struggled with with food control in it's like oh where does this come from? Like oh the time that it wasn't. I didn't live in a chaotic experience. In my childhood was at the dinner table and so I tried to recreate that experience every single time I e and so I go completely non stop thinking always over consume in that that was fine when I was burning. Three four to five thousand calories a day but now that I'm probably bringing to two thousand dollars a day depending on if I worked out you know these are things that that I'm struggling with. So if you're struggling with three look or the way that you're consuming or or your over consuming you're you're on your phone too much like these are real life things that every person no matter how great you think. I am struggling much. Yes yes friend yes I was a big jock like I mean that's again really different results. I was actually never asked to play for the national team. Much to my surprise I mean I also wasn't good at soccer but You know I was. I was a hardcore athlete at a time. In my life where that meant that I could hide disordered eating in that space where I could Like do an equation. That isn't true for the rest of your life or not his on five thousand teams at once. You're not always a teenager. You're not always Like you don't actually always feel good eating only low fat twist cones for McDonald's So you know yeah you grow up in and you have to constantly reorient and uncover layers and I'm just glad to hear you're doing so much. Solid work. Like congratulations to you. I feel like I feel what you're doing in retirement is like it's I mean it's more than you need to be doing for like the things you've already done but for a person who's GonNa live like the rest of their life as if the rest of their life you know. I'm really happy for you that you're like doing all this work. Well one thing that actually allowed me the space to see a sober life is that my wife's took me aside known each other for ten minutes and She wrote me this email in basically an email she just said look at the world actually needs you and needs you in your highest best. Most efficient cells right and this isn't like a moral thin. It's not like you were bad now. You have to be good. It's like the world needs people like you and actually heard that for the first time like if we actually want things to change and and we want more beauty than we have to actually go out and do it you know and be it and And I that that goes into dislike. Always remember that were continually recreating ourselves every day. Every every week every month every year and it's like children like as soon as you start to get into rhythm your kids like they change like all of a sudden they're different different person in you've got like the Agile and moves so that you can serve them in the best Fossil Winston. The same grace needs to be given to each human being we're always changing and Yeah so I'm I'm still working on it and I'm sure off forever. Well that's a perfect place to leave it and I wanna just ask you before I send you back into your day. Abby Wambach to shout out a queiro. Can You Let our listeners know of a person place or thing that made you feel confident being who you are today? Actually somebody who I've I've just recently met over the last six months whose name is sandy ruled and he is an executive for verizon media I run a leadership program inside of rising media. And he is a queer fellow and somebody who is living kind of an an abnormal lace right in in our minds like in our in our like brainwash minds like gay folks. Don't make it to the C. Suite level right don't to executive level of big corporations in this beautiful man you know he has just been such an inspiration. Such a leader You Know He. He talks the talk and he walks the walk. He's brilliant and he's beautiful and he has really Not only helped me personally. But the way he walks in the world is helping all gay people everywhere and he's not that's not his mission. It's not why he's doing it it just who he is an I really. I really admire him. Look we'll think savvy so awesome talking to you thank you for making. Yeah we had a great time.
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She's twenty years old and she let the girl twenty years old and over the over the past four years I think she has spent fifteen thousand Swedish krona. Which is about twelve hundred dollars on lip injections. She's obsessed with bratz dolls. Do you remember the rats? Absolutely she just got certified to do her own at home. Diy Lip injections from whatever Swedish however they run their healthcare system in Sweden. I'm not sure but I think she looks great now. She's Injecting her own lip fillers. So that's her on the Regan's has two pictures up near is that a her before on the left and after his on the right with blonde hair and those massively deformed lips yeah. I'm taking the picture on the right anything new. Tj was going to say that every time. She is so much prettier before she looks. Deformed now well I saw Swedish people are not supposed to be dark headed. That's wrong yeah okay. Whoever thinks of Swedish person is being a Brunette? Nobody that's true. Yeah so whether hair solid white. Like a like a doll. It looks a lot more natural. Yeah I can't see. She's holding up the doll version of herself. It does the doll. Come with wooden shoes. No Way Sweden today. Where wouldn't she didn't think that's more in in Country of Dutch Holland? Yeah this is the president of Dutch. Anyway Yeah I always prefer the surgically changed versions of women. Yeah does she know matter. What does she look twenty? Not at all. She looks Maybe a nineteen and a half. Yeah as she says she's had problems breathing because their lips have gotten so big that they've actually extended indoor mouth social wake up sometimes at night. Haven't struggle into breathe because her lips are so big and it stops you from being able to open her mouth but listen to it for the for the Graham. She looks great. But how much is she gonNa make on the dolls? I wonder if they'll probably be flying off the shelves. 'cause you know. Sweden didn't lock people down. They didn't put innocent citizens under house arrest for the covert thing. You're saying they can get out in shop. Yes they can get out and shop she can get out and get you know hair color and makeup and all that stuff. She can get her nails done. She's got a French manicure. She looks ridiculous Lee High. She is what you meant to say their lobby. She looks giraffe eyelashes and now. She's giving lip injections to herself. I think that's that's that's tough. Yeah you gotta be very limited. Yeah she's basically a Dr bracy great basically a doctor. Yeah so I thought that was great. We'll share some pictures of her a little bit. Everybody has been asking for a picture of Alexis. Our friend Who works behind the scenes? She is filling in for SAS. While SAS in quarantine we have just posted a picture On our social media you can go check it out and then reveal the picture. I put a little blurred image. 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We haven't had any real problems argument during the quarantine but there is a problem. I have that she doesn't know about. She has been completely off of work during this time and she has really taken it as a vacation. From all caps everything. She is worn only yoga pants of big sweat shirts every day seriously every day. That's it she really doesn't do her hair just back every day now and she just lays around watching TV and she's actually gained a little weight. It's like she's just given up. I don't WanNa make too big a deal out of this but I'm still here and still want her to be the woman I fell in love with I get it. I understand that you want to take a break during this time. But it's getting ridiculous if I say something. I know it will be a problem. But it's a problem for me now that she just seems to have given up doesn't care. Should I say something? Is this what I have to look forward to? Every we get married and she stops working to have kids. I don't WanNa go over the top but I am worried about this or do you think I should just ride it out until the quarantine is over. What do you think what do you think? Well I do know this Because of all of the time and effort goes into a woman Getting ready every day in the stuff she has to do with you know fixing her hair sometimes that could involve straightening it in a shower. Make the whole thing when they do have an opportunity where they don't have to do that they just don't do that. Was One of the greatest sound effects. Just don't do it and they say look I'm taking a break from this and I I know that I'M GONNA be back to having to do all of that stuff soon enough but while I'm not having to do it I'm not GonNa do it. And you gotTa admit they do have a lot of a lot of women have a lot of stuff they have to do to be presentable. That was a joke. Although it is it is true. A lot of a lot of men and women have to do a lot just to make themselves feel like they are presentable and not a ghost but it has. I mean that's science all of the science. He doesn't say how long but you have to assume at least been three weeks probably prior month well also has. He suggested that they go do any kind of activities. Go running or walking. You know he could suggest that. Okay well but gorrids. He wasn't complaining about her way. She's she's gained a few pounds. Said bulked up a little. No that's not what he's saying. How would you like that if she knew she knows she's put on weight and he's like? Hey how about? We take a walk or something. Yeah that's what he has to have a little tact with like you know okay. So why don't you throw on some Mascara? Eyeliner and lipstick he no gloss it all up and maybe some earrings and get that shirt with the egg vomit on it off wearing for you know three weeks on some heels. Let's go for a walk. No big deal. He's not you know the saving money on soap you. He didn't say she's not bathing though he didn't and he didn't. They are close. Aren't clean worn yoga pants and sweaters? Yes Alexis should he say something Or should he just figure Leeann what this two more weeks three more weeks tops? She'll probably back at work. I'll just ride this out. I don't know that's a tough one like I get it. You know but I don't know if you should say I mean if he does say something that has to be some in a way that she won't get offended by it especially who knows how much longer we gotta be in quarantine. Yeah but I mean my opinion has kind of changed on this since I've been under house arrest I can only count. Maybe once or twice in the past month that I've had on regular pants because I I go straight to do some sort of a of a Lockdown house arrest workout. As soon as we're finished here nobody know. Clients are coming in the building at all. It's just a bunch of you know on ear people somewhere and workout shorts every day. So you are saying TJ. You can understand her respective a little more. Sure normal okay. They've had to put on a pair of jeans right now. I feel like I was in a straight Jack. Let me out so one AAA FOUR. One to twenty three thousand five. It's triple eight forty one as TJ questions. Should he say something to her? Kinda ride it out. And is this what he has to look forward to after they get married and she stopped working to have kids. Maybe he's going a little bit too far with that question like this is a little different scenario. Yeah so we'll get your thoughts. Dms Call US next. Alexis Siri K. Google we're voice ready on all devices. Just say play. Tj In here our show live or on-demand stay connected funny on the TJ APP available in itunes into Google play war ace and Tj your small to mid sized business ready for the inevitable rebound voice. Hunter Dot Com specializes in providing top level voice. 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I don't think y'all has opened the conversation and discussion as I would've thought guys into the message and it's a little bit of a problem. His fiancee has been laid off the entire time during the quarantine. And all she's done is where Yoga pants and big sweatshirts and the veggies put on a couple of pounds and he's a little concerned. It's been a while he got it for a little bit. But now it's been the entire quarantine Tom and it's not changing. And he's a little bummed out about it and is concerned. Should he say to her about it? Now that it's bothering him or should he just ride it out so there's probably just a couple more weeks three weeks whatever? You don't know that but it could be could not be and this is what he has to forward to the future. Well I honestly think the anytime these types of questions come up It's always always great for the man to say something that is going to solve the problem. Everybody's going to be fine immediately. All you've got to do is say something to a woman about how you think. She is falling short of what she should be doing. In Life Kirk It's so refreshing to the female ears to hear that they absolutely they absolutely love it. Lack hearing how I look like a bum and I've gained weight. Well yeah well. My husband fell in love with me. This lady says he could care less what I look. Like with my. Pj's my hair not fixed again. He loves all caps meet. She could get rid of the real problem you Why Oh ye you. I think that's the that's the recipe. Get rid of him that Albatross. Yeah okay I he should just ride it out. But what is he doing to make her want to make herself up during the lockdown? What kind of backwards psychology is that? What is he doing to May at her want? Evidently he's not giving her a reason to want to dress up better. What does that even mean? What would be the reason that she wants to please him? Yeah and impress him and all that but really I do think they need to split up because If he's not gonna be able to handle the fact that when they get married and all that she's going to be herself like this and not get dressed all the time and not fix yourself up and so forth if he can't handle that then he needs to get out of it now because that's what he he's looking at that for the rest of his life and and she deserves better than that if it's a guy who can't handle the fact that she's GonNa go days and days at a time and not get dressed put on makeup and stow. She deserves way better than some superficial guy. That has a problem with that lady. Said Yeah Dude. Sounds like he's straight out of the nineteen fifties once we get married and she stopped working kids. Maybe she's depressed as he considered her mental health Probably not about himself. If he can't handle a little quarantine he really won't make it when a human exists in her body and a couple of years. I'll bet he's a real looker. What a bag signed a twenty-seven week pregnant gal? Oh So that's exactly what I'm saying. He can't handle the real her. And the real horror is. Don't fix up and stay in. Oversized sweatshirts alday. He needs to love her for that. Because that's who she really is. Mri Ladies You. I'm on ladies get on my shoulders. Let's go I'm carrying you all like the heroes you you are. One Lady said Maybe this girl is wearing sweatpants all the time. She's depressed about quarantine because this can be a dramatic thing. Especially if you've always worked really hard and you go from working all the time to not working at all. Maybe she's actually waiting for her significant other to ask her if she's okay and she could possibly be thinking the same thing about him. Maybe she's getting upset and depressed because he hasn't asked her if she's all right or if she needs anything that could be especially when we know for a fact that she's constantly nurturing him through this difficult process. We know that for a fact we do. Yes okay. Of course why would you ever think otherwise? She didn't always trying to make sure that their men are propped up emotionally and wouldn't kill him to return the favor an and to tear her down to people have said. Hey maybe you suggest ike a Friday night date night and you cook together and get you know. Hey let's we can't go out but let's get fixed up and get dressed up. We'll have dinner here. Like candlelight dinner kind of thing good idea good idea I I just. I don't like that. I'm not a romantic person. Yeah my wife's not as he'd be like turn on the lights. Why are we eating in the dark? Ultimately the result of group therapy yes. It is overwhelmingly gone against. He should just be quiet. Sorry Well my God turn lights on in here when it's daytime. You want Dr Nighttime Dr. At least turning off lights on some points and teach you what are you doing? There is a couple that is about to break up because the guy Is Lacking in one specific talent and it's actual nature but it's not what you're thinking. It's actually pretty fun. Come next. Download the Papa. John's ace and TJ APP. Today here the show twenty four seven at instant access to as at TJ on demand and all our podcast and enter to win cash from the act to stay connected funny on the act. J. APP available at I tunes and Google play or as and teach okay now that we're all both stuck at home and looking at any new hobby or career ideas remember. We've got our podcast company and can help you with a career in podcast. All you need is the idea and we can help you with everything else. Equipment posting on itunes. How you podcast and most importantly how you do it podcast and have it sound professional now. 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Europe or Spain She put on the red it one of those forums. Where you know you get a lot of good advice from the people on read it really do. And she says she's thinking about dumping her boyfriend because She was trying to get him to be more graphically vocal. During those times you know. And the fact that he is so terrible at it has made her want to dump him Especially when during the throws he referred to her as a quote illegal tomato? Oh Oh yes. You're my little tomato tomato emmy horrible. I don't know but he sounds like he doesn't even cuss. Never I'd hate to be called dirty little tomato whippersnapper. Get BACK OVER HERE. Get back over here. You'll chrome cruncher. Oh Oh get this toilet paper out of my trees. Wow that's where I mean that's worthy of a of a dump. That's weird dirty little tomato tomato. Hey stop saying what does that mean. Not Following your train of thought. I love tomatoes. That popped in his head does bad or good but aren't Isn't there an old school term like a Pre metoo movement? Kind of Food that you would call a woman that you think is hot. I can't think of us a little not a tomato obviously but food I was thinking there was one like Oh she's quite a little cupcake something like that. Oh yeah we know for certain. It's not tomato right. Yeah 'cause when you go with something sweet even if you if you were just GonNa be belt that out. You wouldn't go with something that's citrusy would you? You'd say something like you're you're a dirty little little debbie oatmeal cream pie or something like that. Something something that's delectable I mean little miniature soft top of my head Little Debbie OATMEAL CREAM PIES. A little wordy for the throws. I think but you could say well. No that might come up racist whatever. Well in that case. I mean. It wouldn't have been racist. Obviously with someone could've said it may be thought it sounded like a little politically incorrect to people. Just message just to the food. They think that you're thinking of Crump it is at one crown. Maybe our tamales a good one too. Yeah I've noticed though that women seem to frown on that in the workplace. What being caught? Hey we got a meeting with the hot tamale. Hey I what I didn't say Bland Tamale. It's okay excuse me lament suit your touchy tomato coming up on. Dow trending with Riggins after weeks and weeks and weeks. We have revealed the one thing you've been asking for and it's blowing up on the Internet details now training in less than ten minutes intake if your family is struggling during this crisis no kid. Hungry is here to help your kids get the food they need. They're working with organizations nationwide to feed children for free while schools are closed now an through the summer just visit. No kid hungry dot org forward slash. 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He writes stuff drum he has a dramatic writings and and things and I loved. Oprah's big. Thank you where they read the letters to the person sitting there on the couch. I thought that was great. That's really that's really cool. Loves intervention when they read those letters unique said this gift or I'm GonNa hate you forever and you won't be Mama No more. Yeah Okay well my mistake. Bojan I take it back. Michelle Obama's Netflix documentary hits on May fifth. It's called becoming and it's it's the latest project from the Obamas collaboration with net flicks. I think they've signed up to do a couple of different movies. And things like that. So this is expected to be big mainly because people have already exhausted the net flicks catalog and Hulu and everything else. So this this this might be a big one. We'll see how this will be huge and I'll be right there. He will not watching it so I said may fifth may sixth so good yeah clear that Analyst was get a root canal. We have finally published a picture of Alexis. Who's sitting in for SAS while SAS is in quarantine it up on all of our social media pages at the A. C. J. Show a little blurred image. A little tease. And then you click the link you get to see a full picture Alexis have you been getting any reactions to it? That you found interesting a couple. Someone said that They enjoyed me on the radio. But to turn down the MIC during weaken review. I don't know what that means voice in Angel just one just one person so I didn't even know there goes my singing more people. Tell me that in the studio that day when you went to the bathroom Yeah No. I'm kidding kidding. Of course very great voice. You do Karaoke and stuff. Don't you yes intoxicated. I didn't even notice. Well I mean at least not one of those losers who doesn't have to get drunk to do Karaoke Soup Sorry Rob Hoop oop. Don't get drunk to do here. You know that was the joke. Oh never mind you don't have to be. She said it wrong. I was trying to say that you do it without being drunk. Which makes you fantastic Ason. Tj worst impressions. What's the worst creepiest? Most uncomfortable thing a guy has ever done to win your affection. This could get very weird in less than ten minutes the ACING TJ. Show would like to thank everyone who has helped with ace and TJ's grin kids. Charity are once a year trip to Disneyworld with chronically disabled and terminally ill children and their families please visit green kids dot org for sponsorship opportunities and again thank you more ace and TJ coming this is the AC TJ show. Every weekday morning at seven eight and nine eastern Rigas hosts Dow trending get the latest from. What's going on around the world live on the Ason? Tj Show on the act APP available at I tunes and Google play. You'll remember I think it was last Valentine's Day. When Konya Surprise Kim Kardashian by filling up a room full of roses and then Kenny G. was standing in the living room and he was playing his saxophone and I thought well. That's it's good that they're married because if that was just some guy that she was dating and just starting to see and he filled up her house with roses and Kennedy was there s probably uncomfortable. Maybe a little weird. I also feel like if an ugly guy sends you a thousand. Roses doesn't have the same effect if it's a good looking guy sending new a thousand roses accurate. Yes I know a good looking guy. Sending a dozen roses has more weight than a non than a not attractive guy sending you a hundred rose doesn't it whatever the average looking guy seeing you abukar. A of thirty condoms monastics red ones. Valentine's get it okay weird and that's sad national range some babies breath it's weird and the ugly guy can't do anything about it because he's just uglies can't control that but he's gone to such great lengths to impress you and it totally fires back and you think. Oh this guy's creepy when it's like the least creepy thing you can do. He just L- he's that interested in you that he wants to impress you so much but that's what we call a worst impression. It's like a first impression but it's awful and I feel I'm gonNA feel bad for these guys that women are going to expose but that's what we're looking for. What is the creepiest? Weirdest thing guy has done to impress you. If the first thing he does is get your name tattooed on him somewhere. Yeah you haven't gone out with him he's I I would love to grab your name tattooed on me. You'd be like Whoa. Whoa slow down. I I always picture that huge teddy bear. That's like seven feet tall. Yeah and it just shows up at your office and you're like oh I always think anything that you give before you've gone out with like if you send her a gift and it was lingerie or something you've never even gone out with her yet. Well stop it. Yeah that's weird. Yeah that's weird so that's the question. What is the weirdest creepiest thing? Guy Has done to win. Your affection early on a girl says a guy told me how much money he spends on alcohol a week. He's like she's absolutely a thousand dollars bottles this week. Okay so there's a name for that exactly so I'm not going on another date with you. This is an intervention. Amy Scott. This woman says a guy kissed the top of her hand while they were in Walmart. What the heck a walmart bad for these guys because they just want they just want love so they're willing to go to such great lengths. They probably make a great boyfriend if you gave them the chance of the The Tas- onesie shirt his on me. Milady this lady said Oh guy. Gave me a pair of sunglasses? He bought for his ex wife. I told him I told him I didn't want them but he snuck them in my car as I left. Never saw him again. Oh my God you're GonNa love. Trust me they were your exes. I let happen. It's just it's so cringe and so awful. They're expensive sunglasses. Yeah that's what he's thinking he's like. Why would I don't get it here? They're expensive sunglasses. Put them all so sims blue blockers baby. You've seen the commercials they don't just give them tack glasses away so at the as Tj show. What's The creepiest? Most uncomfortable thing a guy has done to win your affection. We'll get your answers in less than ten minutes. Azt G APP is your source for streaming more show after the show live each weekday at ten am eastern or download the more show after the show. Podcast stay connected funny on the act J available at I tunes. Google play as TJ come. This is the ACC TJ show. When you want to hear the show anytime remember you can stream the Ason. Tj Show replay every day after the show download the show with TJ. Show on demand. Stay connected funny on the act. J. APP available at I tunes and Google play. We're talking about worst impression. The weirdest creepiest thing guy has done to get. Your attention obviously didn't work there's a lot of the DM to US okay. She said a guy I worked with once wrote a song about me and he sang it to me in front of others in the break room. I was married to someone else at the time. Put yourself in her. Can you imagine standing in the break? If you're this woman standing in the break room and this guy suddenly breaks out a saw you're married and he's singing a song to you trying to win your heart or something. How unbelievably uncomfortable and awkward. Must have been for her well funny for everybody else and I urge ever definitely. Y'All WanNa know stuff goes on in the break room. There's a Lotta Shenanigans and the breaker in the break and the break win room. A woman says this guy followed me all over Walmart and when I stopped I looked at him and he said I'm sorry I thought you wish twain like she's going to be like you Mr Walmart. Stranger at smooth right is it I love this. I didn't know him very well personally and I returned home from work to find him coming from backyard. He hid mowed the lawn and cleaned out my gutters. He's a good old boy. Maybe we just being helpful. But it seemed creepy. After a long day at work part of me thought I should be thankful the other parts that he did Vadim US personal personal space. That I shouldn't feel guilty. He needed to go all. My Guy Friends said nope weird guys don't go round mowing lawns and cleaning gutters to be nice. No matter how friendly they are. Let Me Tell You. Some Guy. Friends are usually. If if you're hot your guy friends probably going to say all other guys trying to go out with you suck. Yeah Yeah I don't think that's I mean it's probably a little much but maybe he is just a good old boy trying to help this a single woman in her house. I don't think that is if you don't even know her. And she hasn't been struggling with anything or whatever. I think. Highly inappropriate that he'd be in her yard mowing and all that kind of cleaning gutters and stuff on our house without night even knowing her. Is the backer front backyard? There you go saying that he's always then got a spot for a well-placed innuendo okay. Well which is in priceless in the dating world trust me. I know should've winked at her when he came up. You know where I spent all afternoon. That's right at least a couple of hours creepy including she was struggling or she wouldn't have clogged gutters. So maybe he did. Some help. Lawn was encamped. Yeah should've left her bill though then. It wouldn't have been creepy. Here's your bill one dinner with a and massage there's more of the TV show coming up that this is the ace and Tj show. Yeah from the anything becomes a weapon file. This'll be good. This thirty five year. Old Woman who lives in Florida was just arrested on domestic assault charges. Because she and her her boyfriend. This is the the story says. They got into an argument over her child. Who is not alive? Okay that's all it says as far as the You know what caused the incident so during this argument she grabbed an ink pen. Stabbed him in the arm with it. So then she the these are. This is according to the report to the story. Then she allegedly chased the man into the front yard and tossed a brick at him which hit his other arm and had a bruise on it then. She threw a candy cane at the No she missed with the brick through a candy cane at the victim's arm and that caused bruising and swelling a candy canes yeah and so first of all how how you got access to a candy cane in April Which is when this story took place? I get a feeling one of those lawn candy. Canes like a Christmas decoration that was left out in the front yard. Okay even better than you have access to that. It's Florida leftover but it just causes a candy cane listed a candy as a weapon in the report. Yeah they can't game Big enough to make his eyes water now. It make him into fresh but mugshot. Accompanies the story and with the exception of a little bit of herpes on her bottom lip. She's pretty high. Then that what? That looks like a blister. Yeah pretty though I mean you know. Give her an up-to-date haircut slap a little makeup owner. Yes you'll be ready to take the town rather First instinct do you think that he probably said something offensive about her child? That has died. Yeah well something. That didn't go over well where it was offensive or not. It was offensive to her. I guess and she then responded by. They're freaking out. I picture it to be a fairly short conversation. Not Much of an argument. He said something. She was immediately offended and lashed out. And it just seem rolled from there. She could be a younger version of Darlene. From ozark kind of the way. I'm okay you don't say the wrong thing or you're going to get the business end of whatever I've gotten my aunt if it's a shotgun then that if it's if it's a pin it's that if it's a candy cane whatever. I am not messing around with you. Alexa never hit anybody. Nope never hit anyone with anything other than your fists. Look if you're told us you know if I at one time I did yeah I gotTA fight one time but no I've never been that The type throw things. No I'm surprised you only gotten one fight grown up in south central. La Central to the West Coast. Yeah I mean. They saw me fight once. They don't mess with me and you got in a fight because they called you the only white girl on the cheerleading team and you're not white and because she egged my house house forgot about that. That's awesome that you get one fight and everybody knows and that's your only fight by learn that you don't mess with you. Got To set the tone. She wore her out I mean little white cheerleader stat. Enough for more. Give the TJ APP. It's all material. Copyright Two Thousand Twenty Eight J. Incorporate.
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I like the the, the one that was slightly cursive that had the -til Marlin flowing through you like the one with the Marlin in the middle. I like the one when it's on the left, like the first one that yeah, there were, but I like the the m best cursive style 'em and the old -til Marlin because this was the only logo that had teal and then it's color scheme. Am all about a return to. Deal with this franchise. So I like that one not only was it the most aesthetically pleasing, but it had the number one check on my box was get back to you. I think the original leak. I think that was the best one of the bunch. I'm really hoping that they don't put any red on any part of the uniform order logo. Yeah, there's a, there's one of the available logos that's like sort of a block m. that just very, very red, Billy. You were teasing that there was more to this moorlands logos or yesterday morning, and then all the developments happened. Your thoughts on what appears to be. Is this a crowd sourcing thing, or are they gonna let us vote on this. Remember when they changed the logo? The last time it looked similar and then all of a sudden are, what are you eating right now? I mean, right now I'm not eating anything. You're there's something clearly into your still digest on amount. Okay. See. It sounds like you're eating something. I don't a little while ago. Look, if you wanna drink orange juice to say, wash down, wash that thing. All right. What's going on with the logo of yet? The big gulp. We're talking about the Marlins Marlins logo. There's a bunch of logos out there. I'm assuming one of them's real and that they real ones been leaked and it's hiding in plain sight, but I don't know. Remember the last time they switched the logos. They said, no, no, that's not the logo. And it was actually very dif- very similar, but it was a franchise before that we didn't trust at all, and we knew that they were lying to us no matter what they said. Now, do you feel the same way about geeder? There's so many options out there that one of them has to be the one. I'm one of them you would think so. But I don't know. I mean, I think that it's supposed to come out in a month, right? That's what the Slater scoop was in November it's coming out or is this some sort of our team soon this to sort of leak these things out on purpose to gauge initial fan reaction? I kind of felt that way with the MLS the inter. Miami crest when that leaked initially, the reception to it was very positive. I suspect that if the Marlins were trying to leak something, they're not gonna use anti Slater to leak it, right. That's I could be wrong on that. But what's going on with we know through interviews with Andy Slater and his sweater, he's very upfront and honest that the the Marlins aren't biggest fans of is joy on their man. I, I don't know, but you're what is going on here? They they clearly have it out for anti Slater. I feel I. I don't know. I mean, call them, ask them, hey, guys, if you wanna call in to call in and tell us, I don't know what's going on there. Quarterback news for both teams yesterday Rozier. Yeah. Well, we'll get to the Miami one. I'm curious to hear what your guys thoughts are on the decision to start Maliki Rozier next week at Boston College Mark richt has made the decision to go with rosier saying that in cozy, Perry will play, but Mark Rozier Malaysia gives them the the best chance to win right now, Chris, I think you you speak for a lot of fans when it comes to this. I think richt just has given up that he realizes he doesn't have a quarterback. So he's just like, what do you want me to do? I gotta go with the more veteran guy that's actually not the take 'em seeing on Twitter. I thought you'd just be, let's please get Perry in there. We know exactly what Rozier is he, we started Rozier and then he made the switch. If you're going back on that, you see something where you're just like this kid's not ready. Well, I think this is his motivations here appear to me to be a little selfish. Right. I want in cozy, Perry sorting. I know that in practice Peres, terrible. Mark, Margaret sees all this in practice and there's real trust issue there with Perry. He trusts rosier more. He knows that rosier is what he is. Okay. And I think he's not gonna waste time playing the younger kid because he knows Perry simply isn't the answer for this program to take that next step. So he's not worried about hurting his feelings or him Tra transferring because probably in his mind, he's already ready to go in another direction. So this is clearly just Mark richt trying to get his record as good as it can look. Because if he goes out there and loses four or five games with Perry, yet you're playing the young kid who has a higher ceiling, but you're just going to get more people upset at you. You just gotta trust Rick on this stuff like it's just it's ridiculous for for me to have an opinion on who should start. Like if he's going back to Rozier I'm just gonna trust Rick that just 'cause Perry's. He's also been inaccurate. 'cause Rozier is thing is he safe with it? But he's an accurate. He'll miss an open receiver. Perry is a little reckless and inaccurate. So it's like if I'm going to have inaccuracy, I might as well have the guy who's by the numbers Peres more accurate quarterback than Rozier first half against. I mean, yeah, two of his first six passes were interceptions, but the whole, there's a glitch in the matrix. Here is Rick thinks by playing Rozier. He's not going to get those same mistakes or lose those same games. And I think he's just as likely to do it and I'd rather have the quarterback that's a little bit more explosive understanding than neither Rozier or Perry is the answer at this position. Mark richt absolutely need during Williams to be the guy when it's Kate weld suspension over. He's got three more games and that suspension Kate Weldon is not going to be the guy I'm on. It's very clear. Jaren Williams needs to be. Jerry Williams Williams's showed up in one game this season against. You can't really tell. Much from that one performance. He can play in three more games and you can save that redshirt which Boston College bad. Could we see him Austin college is not bad. This is a game that you should circle that you should have had circled. We should know you should have had this game circled on your calendars. Boston College has great edge rusher. They have a really good safety AJ Dylan's been the running back is an absolute stud. He's been hurt much of the year battling through injury. You didn't even play in the last game. This is a really good defense and they can occasionally put together a really impressive performance. They beat Lamar Jackson at Louisville last year, and this is a primetime game at home on a Friday. Luckily Miami has more than week to prepare for this game. They have a buy week this week. Hopefully there can be some changes to the offensive scheme because Chris, how bad to that often, how predictable this offense look on Saturday night or I know, I'm sorry. I was just thinking something else who are the ACC teams that you just think of that should be bad is Boston College. To me is that team teams with with high academic standards? Boston College is one of them. They have higher academic centers, Wake Forest, Duke, certainly, but although had a different look, the last like four or five years they cut cliff. Yeah, and that game that Miami has against Duke if Miami is able to beat be, I can't believe we're to the point where this is a question Mark, but a world is changed. They lost Virginia. They can lose anybody in this conference pretty much that game against Duke might be for the coastal. There's going to be one of these nutty. That's their. That's their division. No, I meant like that's at Duke. That's no, no, no. The Duke game. Miami only has two more home games left in the season. Right? Because they play. Yeah, they played a lot which is another reason why we they were a bit fraud because we hadn't really seen this team go on the road and have a true test, the likes of Virginia and they failed miserably. Yeah. What a terrible us. Like I said, plenty of time to get into that. But other quarterback news, other quarterback news, Chris or Brockton on at hard Brock stadium. Brock Osweiler is starting against the Detroit Lions on Sunday. This is still just injury though, right? This is not like, oh, he earned this start, Ted hills, fine. This is tannehill needs another week. No, this is still injury. In fact, the I heard in the sports flash Brennan Tobin was doing the NFL's looking into the handling of Ryan Tena hills, shoulder injury in terms of how the dolphins reported this. We heard through news reports that this was an injury that Ryan, oh, actually sustained against Oakland. Which do you think you guys were wrong on this year? Me Rosiere Rozier or rain Taanahim. Oh, I was way more wrong on Rozier, but everybody was wrong on Rozier. Everybody that was following the program, the people that were actually writing where the people that didn't read what was going on in practice and only saw what they saw and the games because they've known Houma leak was since last season. There were dead on that. He did not make the strides that he'd made in practice. He was not that guy that was so far and away the best quarterback in camp. He was the same leak Rozier and it's a huge, bummer. Man. I went on this radio and said, if Miami is actually undefeated headed into that ACC championship game, it's going to be because Melik Rozier and he's an under the radar Heisman candidate. How are we wrong about Tanta hill? I mean, he played well, and then he didn't play well. And we were like, why isn't he playing? Well? And it turned out he was hurt. So like we haven't been really been wrong on we. We've been pretty right on tannehill in that he needs perfect protection. For things that go right for him. Once at offense of line started getting hurt, he was a worse quarterback. In fact, he's and he was injured tune those last two games. And that's why put up two of the worst performances of his career franchise quarterback. Like is he going to be the quarterback in two years now, I think that you need to get another quarter Bill. What do you think he's been? He's been a pro- for what? Seven years now, I think by now you would know six years still a question is a problem, six years. We've been having this conversation that's like four years too long. He's he's a fully formed football product. You would have to assume and the fully formed football product is going to be someone that we always have these questions about. Another thing that happened in local sports last night. Remind me heat returned to action. Miami Heat, returned to action at opened the season against the Orlando. Magic feels like they've been doing that for seven straight years. Miami Heat were actually very injured going into this game. Wayne Ellington wasn't playing the newly resigned. Justice Winslow wasn't playing James. John. Johnson wasn't in action. All that being said, you still have to beat Orlando and Ford. Every reason this or Landau magic team has Miami's number since LeBron left the heater only nine and eight against what has been terrible, Orlando, Magic team. The last two seasons, three and six. So I don't know like what is it about this team? Like the games, matchup the games against the magic two seasons ago where the Miami Heat had the same record as Chicago Bulls. Remember, Dwayne, Wade, valiantly led the Chicago Bulls to an eighth seed. They had the tiebreaker on Miami because of a head to head matchup. Miami had so many opportunities against your Landau magic to get easy w Susan's ago. They just been a total thorn in Miami side and Josh Richardson. He was, I say, this flashed a lot in the scan that was behind the back bounce pass. He was looking good, Josh Richardson, but dude, he's so frustrating because he's sponsor calls at one of the smartest players on the team, but he is so fresh. Strating because he makes some of the weirdest brain for. And for those that watch game last night, the play was drawn up for him to go Bhagat baseline and he in a spin move attempt. It pass by wait inbound. Yeah, he stepped out of bounds when you were down one possession in that game with an opportunity to potentially extend the game and even win it. And Josh Richardson just does one thing cannot do in that situation steps out of bounds. It wasn't really forced out of at abound. He sort of just carried himself out there. And dude, I media wanted Jimmy Butler in them. They had last night's game had a last year's team feel to it like it doesn't feel like it feels like we're the same team Whiteside being productive in the first quarter, then kinda just disappearing late in the game. Why did I grabbed? Oh, no, no. Oh, you got me this. You got me relax and I said his name, no, he shall not be named. I'm paying a fine. He was shall not be named, pull down eighteen boards, but he didn't do a good job in stopping mogambo who in his first career start look pretty. Good against us on Whiteside. You think do you think Wade is just like, Josh is going to be the scoring guy this year? I'm just gonna try to get boards. He got eleven boards. I guess he just gonna make an effort that when I'm in there, I'm gonna crash. The boards, I think twain whatever. Dwayne does this season. He's totally Taft LAN. And there were times Dwayne was actually looking mad slow yesterday, and he's I know he's still working his way into game shape, but I'm not going to be annoyed by anything. Dwayne, Wade, does this season at all? Yeah, it's the one last dance. We'll say wildlife always on. I'm gonna hold you that one Billy. Did you watch any of Dwayne, Wade last night? It tell me that he's at least bought with you enough to say, you know what? I'm not gonna complain about the weight at all this year. No, he didn't do that. I didn't watch watching the baseball playoffs. What was the deal with that home run? Did you see that play? So Jose altuve hits a ball that's over the fence and Mookie Betts, I think jumps up to try to rob it. It hits a fan and they call fan interference, but he's over the wall. Like I always thought your cool if they're out of the field of play it. It was. Called an out. Joe said it was a now. That's how to play like bets. If no one else is their bets like it was right going toward and he was over the fence. He was in the crowd. I don't like that rule. I, I don't know if they reviewed it. I mean, I was seeing the reaction. I'm thinking everybody's sending pictures of the rule book an apparently that's a rule. If you go out and play and your interfered with his, it's still gonna be called an out, but they have changed because there was less interference in that play than in the Bartman play. That was called foul territory. We had a caller, right? What's John's calling? He says there's a discrepancy with Sarah, but she is broken some rules. John, make sure it tells what you look like, what's up man? Well, it's kind of a cure, but it's Ozzy Osbourne's one of his first mugshot when he has like a St Louis blues, k shirt. So that's what I look like. You can Google if you like, yeah, listen, I watched a chilling video on Instagram last night where sarahspain said there was a day of reckoning coming for all of you and the day of reckoning here and it's it's not for you shipping container. It's four sarahspain because she Lincoln in one of her grid of death punishments. In fact, this whole thing is soaked in fraudulent incorrupt because on she was she was supposed to if memory serves, she was supposed to freestyle rap for like thirty seconds. And this was back in December of two thousand fifteen, I think. And instead of doing that, she actually wrote the the velvet glove, iron fist thing, and I think you can check the tape, but I think she actually said, nobody wants to hear that. So I wrote this instead. No, she actually. Is not paid her grit of death punishment. She used this as a catapult of corruption and fraudulent to the the position of the Commissioner, and I won't have it because I've listened to her bully you guys and I'm not having it because I ride in bag with the shipping container. And I mean, I think this, this scandal gentlemen goes all the way to the top because there was a an incident with Dan day and a bowling alley, and Greg Cody and the grid of death, and she let him off pretty easy. I think this is a conspiracy and everybody's in on it including her. What say you? They're fussy britches. You guys are off by saying, no, and I say you guys are cleared of any grit of depth punishments that she hands down. John John question for you. What is your? What is your job right now? He's gonna always on in. On drums. If you drop the mic. I am putting that in my back pocket in case she comes after me later, I don't know about you guys took -nology truth brought to you by cold. Truth, teenagers can communicate entirely in emojis. 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We're back Miami Heat, dropped her own one to start the season the right back at it. The Washington tonight. I assume Johnson Ellington and Windsor, probably not going to be available. We're supposed to have a basketball expert in studio with us today. You're supposed to be part of the local hour today time enough, but there were some travel issues go out now to a meal has who will be co hosting with the show once we go national apparently. But I mean, what's deal. Why aren't you here? Will love duty of American Airlines where I left the gate on time as it. Okay. Well, this'll be cool. I went to sleep, woke up and apparently have been to our delay on the ground after we left the gate became make so and sort of landing at seven and having enough time to comfortably, it's a my hotel and then stroll over for local hour. I'm not gonna get rushing to make it for the nationality. I enjoyed your movie. Takes yesterday in your brief came yo you rattled off some great Wesley Snipes facts, and we maybe we should have a new resident movie buff because I enjoyed your takes. And I like movie tastes better than I like David Samson's. Do you agree that Samson's movie opinions aren't that great. Aw, man. He's a fraud. It started. It started. Remember my first med flag was when we were talking and we have to devilish and men and action movie hall of fame for hunting. And he was saying, no, and he had a bunch of lame reasoning. Why I have all these kind of criteria that never heard of when you talk about action movie hall of fame, but I said, you know what? Maybe teaches on the minimum amount of whatever. But then one of the things when the movies he suggested was greatest showman you know, I like Hugh Jackman. I said, guess what? I'm gonna give it a try. It was on his deal the other day. And when I say it was the biggest pilot clever first of all. They barely have any dialogue, everything seen every single thing in the song. And by the way, not a good song, not a catchy song, not a phone. I'm gonna walk away from into myself afterward, but then more than that, and this is the part that really gets me. The story is terrible. I mean, it's just it's just, oh, I'm poor and then he's thinks about it and then that's so poor anymore. And then he's thinking about it. Some more parents don't like anything about it some more. It's just not a good movie. Did we bring up Harrison Ford yesterday. Harrison. Ford is Star Wars in three Star Wars, Indiana Jones, the fugitive, wow. Yeah. Harrison Ford's top-five might actually stack up well in terms of best scribe five. Yeah. Well, clear and present danger. Harrison Ford's a pretty good option. I mean, I don't know if you were able to watch what happened in last night's game between the magic in heat. Obviously the heat had some injuries edit into it. But this magic team is really difficult for this Miami Heat squad to beat for some reason appear to have their number. Should I start being really down on this Miami Heat team given what we saw last night. As is not not giving up what we saw last night as you noted. For some reason, they always have problems with Orlando. Also. It's not forget for Landau sputter the year, like gangbusters last year and then managed to doing the worst thing anyway. But overall, I would say yes, I don't think there's a terribly talented Miami team a year ago. I picked him to win the division mainly because the rest of their division was pretty underachieving and nothing has changed in that regard. But as far as the greater east picture, I think a lot of things got better in Miami really didn't know there's a little kind of transaction that might be happening in the next week that could change all that. But until then I've been get temporary expectations about a Miami Heat season. Are you concerned about the heat after a single game? Mike, Ryan, I'm concerned. I am so proud of you. I'm concerned. Here's the thing because Chris spoke to it, and I was watching that. That game, and I was watching a struggle against the Orlando Magic again, and I realize it's the same guys. It's the same frustrating guys. There's a new energy guy there Jones junior. Cool. I guess Magruder's healthy that that's fine, but they're all the same guy who frustrated you the most last night. Who was the guy last night? It was a couple. I was watching movie. And so this was a second screen experience, but Tyler Johnson was just recklessly and, and this is a guy that used to be really high on a mean can speak to that. But Tyler Johnson was just crashing into the pain and nothing good seem to be avenue. I just love that you're concerned after a single game. I'm haven't played a home game yet. You're concerned after a single drawbridge looked good last night Trump, it's fine. I'm not gonna complain about a single thing with Dwayne, Wade a mean to you, agree with that. Take that whatever. Dwayne, Wade does this season even if it's bad, it's all gravy. You're because he's not the expectation. There's not to go out there average fifteen and shoot forty, seven percents. It's about aid enjoying the ride. They you'd think in Miami on, but also in spurts, right idea that he may emit scored six points, but it'll be the right six point winter. We to make because the Miami Heat strategy is just to expect that everyone on the same as going to make some sort of leave. That's why they brought the guys back and they might be right to a degree with maybe Justice Winslow who didn't have a true second season. But Josh Richardson who seems to add add some elements to his game, but still does the brain for it late in the game. What is the reluctance in giving up any of these pieces? We know that they push back on Josh Richardson initially with Jimmy Butler trade. Why is because he uses for the taking, right? These is for the taking. Why are they so reluctant to give up on some of these pieces. I mean, I think I did that for me when you find the diamond in the rough and you develop it, you got to the part of, you know, I don't wanna give up on these diamonds, especially when you consider that. It's not like Minnesota has offers down their door, right? They literally have the least leverage of anybody in in any sort of action. So I think there's a part of this word is almost like a, you know what? Measuring contest? Why? Why should I give up that? I like you don't even have any good deals out there. Having said that we talked about, you have a chance to go get an all NBA player. You go out and get them and you don't really worry about it. The one thing that I've kind of been critical Pat Riley in the Miami Hema last couple of years is if parole claim to fame and and it's true plane. By the way your name is that we find the diamonds in the rough. We develop them, we turned, but nobody wanted into NBA player that'd be employers there. Why would you catch any of them? Right. Whether it's probably Johnson Johnson Dion, waiters assault Whiteside or or in this case definitely eat, took second round picks undrafted due the out of the league and turn them into bona fide MBA players. Let them go, go get some more. Do it all over again. We know you can do it. They have they do again, why would they be attached to any? But yesterday STAN was saying how Jimmy Butler is an upgrade for the heat, but he's not really like that. Elite guy like this. If we get rid of Richardson and get Bullard is that really make the heat that much of a better team? Because of course, the whole thing is that it's a, it's a building block, right? Jimmy Butler isn't the destination that we got about the championship. Billy, Tom, it's idea that you get Jimmy Butler. And now if you get someone else now you're talking but many times in India in order to get that someone else you gotta have someone to begin with you gotta remember a year from now on a say that he will be entering the season with about seventy million dollars. Expiring contract. So we're talking, Anthony Davis trade a year from now, right? Like. A lot more likely benefit. I'm from the Miami. You guys. He have Jimmy Butler you, you know, have maybe found another done that you guys are winning games despite not having a whole lot of talent down there if I get there. Oh, now now we're in business, right? The whole idea that you want to sell the next star. The the number one sided. Understand that anybody is not a number one. That's cool, but a number one wants to see the at least the number two there before he's coming over Sugata, shaking his head sort of confused. But I think that's a beauty of the NBA. You can sign Dion waiters to a bad contract. And yeah, it's bad for about three years. But when you get to the fourth year, all of a sudden is bad contract. It's an asset because it's expiring. I understand the notion that Anthony Davis is gonna come down here to play with Jimmy Butler. I mean, he's already headed out to LA to play with the LeBron's dirty done. He's on a flight right now. It seriously. He's halfway there. Right. It probably is. But either way I think the the point is you wanna put yourself in the position that when those video wars start, you have stuff you can offer that actually worth something. Which again goes back to the whole, hey, we find players we develop players, right? Like the whole. And bam, right? That's that's the, that's the combination. You help them develop them. So you can train them for someone who that's great. Yeah. I mean to to your question, Chris Cody, why do you get rid of Josh Richardson of Jimmy Butler doesn't make you that much better in mean pointed out that it's a building block, but I think at the bottom line is it's flipping something you nailed second round draft, pick Josh Richardson. If you could actually turn that into a guy who's been in all star game before that is a huge win. No matter how much it hurts to see him continue to grow as a player to huge win. That's amino Hassen. He's on his way to the studio. You'll be in coasting with us. Thank you mean we'll see you soon done. Lebatardshow plus six one unit still gots eighty-five. Six. This is our show with stugatz on the ticket. It's the shipping container talking to you on a Thursday. It's almost Friday. Yesterday was Wednesday. We are almost to the weekend Billy. Oh, hot. Is it today? Oh my God. God is so hot. I have no idea. Did you guys see you're supposed to give the weather? Well, that's the Chris Cody Shug. Oh, this is thick with a billion. Sorry, it's eighty four degrees, Chris. Thank you. Thank you. Did you guys see? Did you guys discuss any of this before you started? Oh, we just flow baby. We flow. Did you guys see skip Bayless doing the Conor McGregor walk? It's on the internet. If you're driving right now, wait till you're stopped, but if you're not driving right now, pull up your phone, Google, skip Bayless doing the Conor McGregor strut. It is the creepiest thing I've ever seen it. It's not accurate. Remember when we we actually got the Vince McMahon walk off the ground member. When we started that challenge, we did not get the Vince McMahon challenge off the ground. I mean, many people did it, Mike, did it, and then I think you did it. I think maybe is he did it, and then that was like maybe four other piece of Donald played it, and then everyone saw, hey, this is a really good idea. Let's just change the name. So these guys don't get any credit and it became economy Gregor, notorious walk. And that really took, oh, we set out. We were like, we want to create an internet challenge. That would happen. People saw as do. And then change the name to not give us credit. That's it. Thank you. I mean, I remember people were tweet like we got fifth like it was no like celebrities, but we got many people sending us them doing that. Walk over internet challenges I've done with that's create another. I know I know you, Chris is all about internet challenge. I'm so done with internet challenges, and you know what, you know what not to call anyone out taught. However, show is the reason that I'm done with internet challenges. I'm just going to say it why we did Tom have restores internet challenge, his red pepper thing, and he was reached. We'd and Henry wanted everybody except the shipping container. I ate his mother sick, no. Making this about you. Well, you know. I'm over challenges though. The ones that people getting hit by cars because a Drake, what is that about? I think you just feel bad because you never actually donate to the challenges. You don't donate either into these thing. Everybody does it and they think that they're helping these causes and they're not really helping anything except getting attention and likes for donated twenty dollars. You did not. You could screen shot. That was show we're doing. He's live. I like to apologize to Tom. It was good intentions. I'm just upset that ADA pepper for nothing. I'm watching this skip Bayless won't for a sick. Help is hilly Billy eight one to blame you. 'cause I didn't donate any gonna see it eighty one of those peppers from the Papa. John's pizza. Yeah, cheated. Yeah, I ate a fake proper, but I wasn't challenge. What's the challenging people business? You challenge Meghan Markle. Yes, she didn't do it. I'm upset with her. I'm what relation I'm watching this skip Bayless Conor McGregor walk right now. It it's incredibly creepy. He's doing it while he's wearing a Dak Prescott jersey and a Cowboy's hat. And he walks up to the camera and he says, the Dacca tack is back. Oh, I never heard the sound. No, he says the Dak attack is back. He's intentionally doing that terribly, right? No, he he thinks he's killing. Does he do anything intentionally terribly if you're driving dole look right now, but when you get somewhere look because it's creepy. Did you see? I don't remember who it was. Did you see someone was criticizing football players for imitating Conor McGregor is like imitate a winner. He's a loser. Stop imitating him with his walk. I don't remember who it was. It was a sports commentator who was like very serious damage. You. It was not Dan. I don't think it was Dan. I'm trying to remember who will do prep for one of his that you were going to talk about or was it just to ask me whether I was the commentator who said the thing you don't remember about me. Now we have a wheel. You want to spend the wheel. We can talk about a wheel topics. We have a wheel with crystal and the idea that this show is never successfully done in internet challenge. While and we know he wants to create an internet challenge, what? What do you want it to be? I don't have one. I'm just saying, well, you need to come a job before. If you're doing an internet challenge the way that other people have done it, it has to benefit some charity. Right? So it would have to benefit Jimmy v. in some way because that's our charity of choice. Right. Sure. We'd have to do a Jimmy v. charity challenge of some of the company or the Ron McGill charity. I think it's safe for Jimmy v. right. I mean, I love Ron McGill, but I think we have to do Ron McGill, loved Jimmy being. It's actually v. foundation guys, please. All right. It's actually mon- Ron McGill conservation fund. So what do we do is an animal involved? I don't know. We've got to think of it. Well, maybe listeners, consented suggestions for what are, let's let them, let's outsource it. Let's go out to Daniel. Daniel. Make sure to tell us what you look like. I'll let you guys tell me who you think. I look. I based on the voice, I think it's doable. I have a serious issue going on with the listeners. This audience, they all think is he good? Here's some kind of basketball insider. But the other day he told he tried to defeat the Daryl Morey theories saying like, do a little a little quip in there that coli Leonard is a. Didn't know who he was after three years in Crafter quite Leonard. Third year, he won final VP. I've been enough said. Well, you got him. He doesn't know anything. You got him. Expose fraud. He's not an insider, doesn't know anything. You don't even know what you look like as a celebrity. He knows nothing. I I know you look like a fraud. Yeah, I can't even comprehend that call because I don't know what he looks like John, yes, let's go on those. We look like. Hey, look like a poor man's version of pit bull. All right. Just have a scenario for me and my buddies always talk about, would you rather you're an elevator going up a hundred stories? Would you rather be locked in with a silverback gorilla or tiger how hanging lists? Thank you. Would I rather be locked in a cage against a lion or silver Becker? Ila? I think it was a Tigers silverback. Yeah, you're in elevator. You gotta go up a hundred stories which which narrator you think you'd be able to survive. So we're back real or tiger, oh, you're stuck in an elevator with these animals going hundreds, y, just Billy the victimless scenario, but why would you? Why would this scenario you're you're killing, elevate an elevator with these things in a, why would you get in that elevator? You have to know that's a bad decision on. Thank you. I got it from the hang, you know you've seen the hangover with the tiger in the elevator. Just we're being my friends thought about this. I feel like a tiger I wouldn't be able to control it all. I feel like with the gorilla I could start clapping and like just making noises and like they might like hang out and not kill me right away. You think clapping is going to stop it from attack. You kind of like the whatever you can actually knock, you can knock out a silverback really can't knock out. How do you do that way? He does, hey bears, I would just how would you John knock out a silverback gorilla. It's only takes one punch Billy, where do you punch them? And the Joe, what do you mean I go? I would go for like the like the midsection. I would like try to kick him putting it on the poll. Does the silverback gorilla have a glass jaw? What do you mean? You think you can knock out. Punch. John can knock them out. He just sits in the jaw one punch. That's it. That's all you need. How big are you. Yeah, no, obviously, how big are you John. I'm on a six three about two thirty. Oh, John can do it. John can punch and put that on. I got that on wheel. Can six, three, two hundred, whatever. Pound John, knock out of silverback you're really with one shot. I have a good day. There's not Bobby line three. I don't know your name as Abraham. Abraham, how the Lobos, hey, Abraham's Lobos doing great last week and my fantasy. But my question was comment. You guys know Trent Richardson isn't that new football league that's coming up completely uninterested in that league anymore. The XFL or the other one? No. The other one. I did not know that thank you. Abraham playing the toilet. Glenn baby Davis was in an episode of shameless. He was like a in the prison inmate in the prison. He was actually gay in the show's crazy. All right. I think last sentence. If you've seen shameless, you know what I'm talking about? Oh, it's crazy. It seems like a really gratuitous observation, but okay, you wanna spend your wheel, Chris. You had all those topics up over yesterday. I mean, the only thing left on there was Billy shoes and XFL. Okay. Well, let's go to options. Good at that. Ooh, Billy shoes are Billy's weird. That's really obvious goes. He leaves his house with sandals on and he keeps his shoes in his car. So then he gets into his car with his sandals and he puts on his shoes there. Why didn't you just do that off of pet peeves? My pet peeve is Billy you into that shows way to mock Bill. Even though the wheel landed on Philly to explain my Ryan, my misrepresenting. You about my shoes. Yeah. Well, this is what happened yesterday. I showed up here in Adidas slides with with giant read NBA Saux that's not important the story, but I forgot my shoes because I normally will look, I walked to the car and my sneakers, and then I'll put on my my sandals in the car in the car. And then in the morning I walked to the car and my San Jose. I'll put on my sneakers, but I cleaned out my car and it didn't have any sneakers left in it so that that's why I was doing that. It just seems odd to like, why not just leave? Do you guys like the sandals with like the little pinch, things at the bottom, like it's supposed to help with circulation. I have no idea what you're talking about this. The sandals have like the d. slides have the little like being Cheetos. That's not the official term used by Dita's like ID size or something like that. And it's like massage your feet while you're walking. So this doesn't call them cheat. Those not Adidas being. Yeah. So Diaz has shoes at the Cheetos at the bottom. It's and I was looking it up because it really hurts when you first get them, but you, your body gets used to them and it's supposed to help with circulation. So I haven't while I'm driving to help with circulation. So I don't like, you know, get a blood clot or anything while I'm driving because it's something that I'm concerned about. I had this thing on my leg. So I think that anyone else in the world is concerned. Have you. Put it on the poll. Have you ever been driving and all of a sudden been concerned that you might have a blood clot, your leg? It's a thing. It's people get blood clots stand. It's a thing that happens to people. People get. I don't think people sit around fearing blood clots unless they've had a diagnosis, like Chris, Bosh affair. Yeah, but you could never be too safe. So if I'm look, if they sell you shoes Danby tobacco, potentially protect you from getting blood clots. Wouldn't you want to do that? Or would you want to get the shoes? You make a lead to block and be too, as Chris said, your life is spent in perpetual fear because you can be to safe. Well, listen up until this point in my life. As far as I know, I don't have any blood clots, so I'm gonna keep wearing those shoes. So I'm saying, have you? I mean, you know, we're moving Bobby good morning. We looked like mortgage. I kind of wish like William H Macy, but with no hair. Gone. That's it's not a great book, but it's is it by choice. No, God decided I wasn't gonna have a lot of hair and I'm just going with them and taking the rest of, sorry, dude. Yeah. You you have to, you have to play with the cards. You're dealt right through. All right. Go ahead, man. What do you wanna talk about? So you know how if you've got a group of friends, there's always that one friend that everybody loves generally will say something or do something that makes a each other member of the group to punch him in the face. Okay. Yeah, the shipping container and the cast of the show for each person who is that member of the shipping container cast of Alison things to think it's obvious answer, but I, I'm just curious to see if it is. Well, who does. I think it is in the room and who's the obvious answer who you think everybody wants the punch in the face that we work with. I feel like that person's asking you the question. I never answered it. He asked me to answer, but that's the, she implied that it was obvious enough. And I'm curious if seems. Right. 'cause I have an idea of who she thinks I work with everyone. I don't feel like anyone here wants to punch anyone in Allison does, and you're gonna find out why and how in the next segment.
1343: 5 Steps to Finding Your Passion AND 5 Reasons Why Traveling Is The Best Education by Leon Logothetis
"Does is optimal living daily episode thirteen forty three five steps to finding your passion and five reasons why traveling is the best education both by leon logothetis of leon athena's dot com and we're very own personal narrator justin melik reading to you from some of the best blogs on the planet. I have to post today coming from leon of the kindness diary series on that flex definitely worth checking out. If you wanna be moved for nels get right to it and start optimizing your life five steps to finding your passion by leon logothetis of leon logothetis dot com the world rotates at over sixteen hundred kilometers an hour and your day to day life all sometimes it feels like moves just as fast if it seems as though you've gone so wrapped up and making a living that you've forgotten how to actually live it might be time to step back and reassess your priorities but don't stress. I've got five easy steps to guide you through it. Step one ditch. The stressors see denied. Just tell you not to stress all things relative. Most of what you're worrying about on a daily basis isn't really worth worrying about sure. I understand that if you lose your job you can't pay the mortgage but worrying about losing your job isn't doing anyone any favors especially you so eliminate the things in your life that stress you the most by taking control of your situation. It may mean looking for a new job leaving your old one on your terms letting the dishes in the sink so he can catch the latest episode of game of thrones with your spouse or leave the yard unwitted c. Z. can spend some time in the hammock reading a good book newsflash. You're the only one who actually notices the weeds anyway. Step to reconnect with your inner child. Remember the things you enjoyed as a kid odds. Are you'll still enjoy most of them. If you take the time to make them happen if you enjoyed painting pick up a brush into canvas you might be surprised at the lane talent that emerges if you're like me you love to good road trip in your youth so plan. When you're an adult now and you get to decide your destination don't know where to start google images of getaways close your eyes point a finger at the computer screen and pick a place to go rekindle your joy join the world in your childlike wonder at everything within it step three decide. What's important to you. Almost everyone i know has at some point come to the realization that they're tired of pleasing others does not to say that there isn't pleasure derived from altruistic gestures but when you spend your life constantly tending to the needs of those around you beat your boss your children or your community. He began to burn out. If you constantly saying yes to everyone else's knees but not oh to your own. You need to reorganize your priorities. Make a list of the things that matter to you adjust your life accordingly said four announce your personal makeover to the world. No you need to take out an ad in the local paper nor are you required to blog about it. Simply lay your friends and family know that you've made some course adjustments in your life and that you're headed in a new direction mayes this step important the people close to you will be the ones to help you keep you on track. When you doubt yourself instead of five pursue your passion to the fullest live up that list of the things you want to do for you do them. It doesn't matter what if you do them this month this year or this decade so long as you made the plan to make it happen putting your passion i will change your outlook on life in ways. You can't possibly imagine you don't have to take my word for it. See step one and get started breath and have another post from leeann just a sec but i thank you to bark box for their support. Bark box knows you love your dog like family and they send you a monthly delivery right to your door with innovative toys all natural treats and more. I got to try it on boxing. The monthly gift was like a party for both me and my dog. They've have really fun themes in a changes each month like jurassic park shakespeare in the dog park and sniffs from the abyss for example they keep it fresh and always was entertaining and the treats are made in the u._s. and canada without corn soy or wheat the grain free and they know that no two dogs are alike so they'll even accommodate special needs like if you have a heavy chew or on your hands or if there are allergies involved is a forty dollar value starting at only twenty dollars a month plus if your the dog doesn't love something they'll send you something. Your dog will love. No questions asked my dog. Valentine loves the trees celebrate. Your dog's bark boxes like the joy of a million bellies scratches delivered directly to your door man for free extra month of bark box visit bark box dot com slash old when you subscribe to a six or twelve month plan the b. a. r. k. b. o. x. Dot com slash l. d. arbox dot com slash old <music> five reasons. Why traveling is the best education by leon logo cds of leeann logo theus dot com the earth is filled with infinite experiences wonders and once in a lifetime opportunities imagine hiking through the verdant clyde skopje amazon rainforest can't camping out underneath the aurora borealis in the canadian tundra or meandering through an enchanting kenyan village. Much education is experienced in a classroom or through a textbook look. Those avenues do get the job done but the aren't nearly as fulfilling or effective as traveling the world is see the world and brought in your cultural intellectual elections and spiritual education like you never have imagined here five reasons. Why traveling is the best education possible. Learn new languages us though english is a reliably popular second language for most corners of the world prepared travelers need to do their fair share of language studying before visiting a country country where english is into the primary language learn the basics through a book or audio guide after building a foundation stretcher skills by talking with actual native speakers a textbook can't teach you slang intonation or vocal expression but mother people sure can now only will conversing help expand your cultural horizons ends but will also hasten you're listening and speaking capabilities explore cultural differences in communicating and interacting with other cultures. You'll you'll find just how they vary from your own in italy. Many people go on passage iras or post meal walks in mexico is common for people to take a siesta or nap after lunch different cultures preferred different types of cuisine manners and social expectations be certain to read up on these aspects of culture shock before a four year travel and learn to embrace them when you're there learning is the ultimate point of traveling so take it in wholeheartedly and keep an open mind discover cultural similarities after observing what separates your culture from another's keep an eye out for common ground to do you and the people around you have a shared love of of art or both communicate with a heavy emphasis on body language where do your moral and social values online too often people classify those who are not like them moore who speak a different language as other break down those barriers by finding shared interests habits and values on earth history history taught at all levels of education in the united states generally skews towards a western emphasis american history is the bulk of what's taught in the remainder. The world history is relatively eurocentric by exploring other parts of the world or even hidden gem locations in your own country. You'll play the part of an adventurer discovering being all new artifacts of knowledge poured through indigenous tax embrace fascinating styles of art stamboulis overlooked landmarks and studied the events that shaped nations understanding other cultures history is the premier way to understand. It's politics motivations and social habits. Take your travel slowly can really marigny marigny in the world around. You may be the only way to learn about it. Authentically gain independence. The very act of traveling is a test of one's will patience and fortitude the most well planned traveler will see his or her plans fall awry ride show late suitcases explode boarding passes get lost and it all usually happens at the same time traveling teaches everyone how to improvise don't adhere to strictly to a planner feel free to get lost down a windy leads sun-soaked alleyway or finding treasure in a sprawling marketplace only sure inner pioneer and show yourself which are made of you're guaranteed to be impressed. You just listened to the post titled five steps to finding your passion and five reasons why by traveling is the best education those by leeann logo cds of leon logo cds dot com and i'll keep this short sale before today. I'll be back tomorrow as opposed from from corney carver of be more or less salsa you there where your optimal life awaits.
Astrology Forecast for May 2019: Mercury Cazimi in Gemini
"Ah? Hi, my name is Chris Brennan. And you're listening to the astrology podcast. This is episode two hundred three and we're gonna be talking about the forecast for may of two thousand nineteen. Let's see what is the day today. The date is April twenty ninth Monday, April twenty ninth two thousand nineteen starting at one twenty five pm joining me today is Austin copy and Kelly Surtees. Hey, guys. Hey. All right. So let's see other things you have for more information about how to subscribe to the podcast and help support the production of future episodes becoming a patron. Please the strategy podcast dot com slash subscribe. Our guys let's get into the forecast. Hey, it's been a month since I talked to you last how both been hectic as hectic Kelly. You're getting ready to move to Europe and finalizing that. Yeah. I mean, I'd like to say that I was getting ready, but we've just been dealing with some harm maintenance or pays going on. So I can't even say that we're ready for the move yet. But it's in the background. And it does change everything when you know, you've only got a couple more months in this particular country things like we going to use all of those spices that oil or should we buy smaller container? So even though we're not necessarily doing major packing it. There's definitely been a head shift for sure right? That makes sense. Austin your. Are just coming back from a pretty heavy trip. Yeah. Yeah. My my grandma passed bottom a week and a half ago. And so I yeah, I flew out to Virginia where my mom's side of the family's from and spend time with family and had you know, there's a really beautiful service. And it was it was the nicest possible version of that. Right. You know, still still heavy, you know, it's it's funerals in the dead and family and all that. But really everything that you could ask for it was good. I got to go. Visit my grandma's family graveyard way up in the mountains for the first time. And I saw you know, saw and touched my great great. My great grandparents graves migrate. Great. And my great. Great great. So goodness. Yeah. That's there. Are all in like just a little little cemetery. You know, maybe a hundred and fifty plots just way up in the hills in valley, you know, not connecting with your ancestoral line. Yeah. Let me sort of transit's going on for you with respect. All that. Oh, yeah. It makes I I've worked it out extensively. The non extensive version is you know, that Saturn south node Pluto in Capra corn is very near one of my angles. Their urine is squaring the ruler of my fourth for family. You know, just one little piece of the technical dissection. It's I've been thinking a lot more about houses from houses. So if the fourth is mom than the fourth from the fourth is your mom's mom, and that's where the Saturn, south node. Pluto thing is for me. Yeah. And there's been a lot of stuff, and, you know, moving into a perfection where the ruler is Mars in the ninth and needing to fly across the country because something, you know, Melik happened right, which doesn't thankful right. Like, it's not that it wasn't. It was again, it was a beautiful passing. But you know, Melih fix our life. The that's what a Melik. Does it? Talks about owes someone passes rather than someone's board. Right. So you have a Melih thick in the ninth and you fly for a funeral right? And it's configured to the ruler of the eighth as well in my chart. So you know, it all makes sense. So yeah. And I also started my classes, and that's been a lot of fun. I'm really excited about both my year one and year two students Merle excited that soon we will committed to a whole year. I know we've done two sessions with each so far, and I'm super in debt lace that is good. Any also announced a venture doing later this year. Yeah. The one only Gordon White, and I have been cooking this up for a couple of months, and we finally announced our North American event as above which will be in Portland on September fourteenth. And it is the companion to our Melbourne avert event last year, which was so below and so as Bob is basically a a dialogue and discussion between Gordon I that's the first couple hours. And then the next the next. Ours is dinner drinks. And then we have the venue until about two in the morning. So it is sort of a combination. It's a combination of highly highly refined thinking and talking hopefully about strategy magic paradigm 's cetera et cetera and food truck based delicacies and open bar and a warehouse party it sort of all of these things at the same time. We're already announced publicly I think maybe nine days ago, and we're over eighty five percent sold out already. So don't dawdle you can find information about it at as above twenty nineteen dot com. And so that's pretty exciting. It's fun to you know, unleash a master plan. That you've been feeding fiendishly crafting for a while. And the perception has been really good, and it's gonna be be. It'll be a night to remember. I hope to see you there. Yeah. That's great. So people can find out more information at as above. Twenty nineteen dot com. It's eighty five percent sold out. So by the time most people to this. It will be completely sold out. So get your tickets soon. If you're interested in signing up speaking of sold out events Norac is coming up in Norwalk is completely sold out for the first time ever in history. And actually got an Email from the organiser Laura saying things because she thinks a lot of that's due to podcast listeners that are gonna show up this year. So we are doing a podcast event as a pre conference event at nor wack the day before it opens just after the first set of pre conferences, and we only have two hundred seats. So that actually might get sold out as well. So we wanted to give a heads up. They should try to get there early. If they plan on attending. Regularly. Absolutely. Yes. I think we're going. We don't have an official Dole's open time. Do we should say eight o'clock it start the event is starting at eight thirty promptly right, basically as soon as the Senate moves into such Terry as so we don't know what the door opening it as it's going to be at least by eight thirty but probably by seven thirty. But. Yeah. People should get there early in order to be sure they can get a seat, and it's taking place. What is the date again? It's Thursday may in between a may twenty third. Sorry, okay. In Seattle has been running prince. In one of the big rooms. I'm sure you'll be able to find it once you get there because a lot of people will be going there, and it's a free event. So just come in join us, if you're a fan of the podcast, we're going to be doing a live Q and A, and we're actually soliciting questions now if you'd like to submit a question ahead of time for our Q, and a we're not going to be able to answer all of them, of course. But will answer as many of the more interesting ones as we can. So you can submit your question to us through sending it through through Twitter. If you wanna Email me your question at Astro gmaiLcom. Yeah. We're send them to Austin Kellyanne. They'll send them to us at some point as well. Yeah. I could probably send them to any of often. I guess we'll just create a Google doc on something Chris and like we can review. Yeah. Yeah. So Cuna, we I think one of you said that we've never done Acuna all three of us together. I think we have like, I know. Awesome thing we we took a few questions after a live event at you act. But that w-. Just a few questions at the end. So I'm actually really excited for the three of us to to get into because the queue, and is always gripe for provoking really good discussions and not that we need a lot of help with that. But we'll have a little bit more room to roam in a live event. So that'll be fun. Yeah. Definitely. So send us a questions about astrology in general. I mean, what other topic will will cover a wide very range of topics but should give people at pointers about. Like, what would make a good question? It shouldn't be a question about just your chart, right? It's only question that relates to your chart. Yes. A technique about a question about technique or a question about something that might relate to more than just you is a really good question. Or cool. So that's going to be fun. And we look forward to seeing a lot of people at Norwalk in general Kelly, you're doing a post conference, and I'm doing a post conference what's your post conference on my pies conference on places of as and parkways of frustrations? And it's about going deeper with Neidl aspects brilliant, and you still have space left there. It's not sold out. I I think I am. So yes, if anyone's interested in that odd love to have you join us and that's on Monday. The twenty seventh of may. And what's yours called Chris mine on synthesizing modern and ancient astrology and sort of providing a blueprint for starting to do that. Now that we have the revival of all these ancient traditions that are intermixing with all these modern ones in the present time. So yeah, that's my post conference you'll have some space than yours. Or is it full of no idea assume if they let you buy tickets, and you wanna buy tickets, then give it a shot. If they the next time are it. So that's nor wack look for seeing everyone at the end of the month. Other news and announcements in terms of conferences, Kelly said something came up about soda. Oh, yeah. So the sort of Facebook page has made the official announcement that the twenty nine conferences cancelled due to the organiz Donovan toe and parsing away late last year. So that was kind of expected, but obviously we hadn't had any official word, but just in the last couple of weeks, they did make it clear that they weren't a sort of conference this year plans for twenty twenty s still up in the air. So we don't have confirmation on that as yet. But the family is still just dealing with with the emotional side of everything that's been going on. So they weren't ready to commit to twenty twenty yet. But they did say that they won't be one for twenty nine teen. And in terms of twenty twenty though there is a big conference. That's being planned that I just got some like front row front-seat access to this week because the board of the international society for astronauts school research, flew out here of the past week for board meetings and for conference planning, and they're planning to host a huge international conference here in Denver next in September of twenty twenty. So that's coming up. It's going to be really great. It looks like it's gonna be great conference with a ton of speakers flying in from all over the world. They just completed their first round of speaker selection for that in voting and picked their first thirty speakers. And yeah, I think you and I got in right Kelly. Yeah. I was really excited and quite the prize that I got in on the first. So I'm thrilled. I'm so excited to be conference next year. And Chris you there as well. Yeah. I made it in on the traditional tracks things. Everybody who. Voted for me kind of suck because the traditional track packed with a ton of big speakers. It was like me Dimitre Leeman Austin, Lisa, Michael fach, and like two other people. So it was like that was the the highest competition one and only the top three could get in. So I think they're still gonna do other rounds of things arounds of speaker selection, that's in the process of happening now and they've already making arrangements with them, and they're gonna give us a space to do a large free podcast event at this conference as a pre conference thing. So the three of us are going to be there for sure doing that. You're if you're up for it, actually, I should run that by I love that. Chris. Yeah. I don't know. I will be what about you Austin? Well, I wasn't. So let my talk wasn't selected. So I'm gonna have to get over my feelings, and you know, which may involve bringing, you know, a terrible devastation to the lives of all those who voted against me. That's where I'm at. Now. We'll see. It wasn't selected yet. I mean, there's still multiple rounds. I think well if anybody would like there to be any astral magic content the conference mine is the only talk that was proposed. That's actually on logical magic. What was the title again? It's called. Well, it's called calling the planets, and it's comparing the the way that the verbal component of calling the planets in the higer Mantia in the PK tricks, and in a grip for books of cult of philosophy or three books you and your your poetic titles. What have people just misinterpreted it as like literally trying to call the planets, and I was the issue. Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, if maybe maybe it's not for them. Then right. That could be the it's it's pretty literal. Chris. Austin? You would have been on the traditional track to then. Right. Yes. Because that was a very hard track to select speakers for I will say run out of the gays. I wanted like all of them to say not all of them, but most of them speak. Yeah. And that was what happened? Lisa didn't make it in on that track. And Michael Vick didn't make it in like one or two other people didn't so don't feel bad. But there's still time. So we'll see what happens. I'll be in good company when we have our loser party. Yeah. But it is going to be a good conference. So it's a long ways away right now. But I'm looking forward to it. And I've been doing interviews to steal some of the board members like Kenneth Miller and Sam Reynolds to do an interview that came out already this month on the outer planets, and then there's another interview I did with David really who's the vice president of Isar about his work in bringing modern western astrology to China, and that's going to be one of the first episodes I release in may that's being edited right now. Fantastic. Interesting. I I have to a little nervous because I did swing for the fence with my talk topic for a saw in that. I went for a toll comb progressions, and I had a random thought, oh, I'm going to Email Aaron who's my publisher and say can we get the book out by then? Because then I can do a toll cone it pretty much have to get the book out by the now. Now, we have to. That's this is really putting the pressure on good. I like that. And the theme of the conference is like the Jupiter Saturn conjunction the great conjunction that's happening next year in twenty twenty. And that's something. You guys have been researching and talking about a lot recently as well. Right to I've been it's been part of my of the year in reference to that has been part of my yearly for the last several years because it's it's it's such an important framing device for looking at what's twenty sixteen like what's twenty eight teen like what's twenty twenty one. Like, right. There's the nature of the year inside itself. Then there's context, and that's our I would say our best and clearest single system, which gives us context, and I'm giving my delayed talk on the Jupiter Saturn cycle this coming Sunday may the fifth. Cinco de mayo. It was originally scheduled for the previous Sunday. But I ended up having to fly out and do family and funeral. So. And this will be the second time, I've given the talk so hopefully better I think I've learned a few things during the first one on people can sign up for that on my website, which is Austin Compaq dot com. And even even if you can't make it live if you sign up, you will get a digital copy with the power point, and my, you know, questionable voice and all that. So that's I don't have too much going on in may other than what I've already committed to lots of teaching lots of readings giving that talk selling out as above and then the the Venus in Pisces series that I liked it for sphere and sundry is due to launch on may second. And so there's there's that as well. And I'm fan. I am the the primary beta tester for all that stuff. So. Pleasing. Indeed. Some super exciting Khalid. Did you do Jupiter Saturn talk as well or something? I did at the soldier university twenty twenty summers which was made April. I had talked a little bit about the Jupiter Sutton's likely my year ahead talk because I do think like you awesome. It gives really good context. It sort of puts the whole satin south node, Pluto thing it gives a framework for why that's absolutely relevant given the major change with Jupiter and sentence. So yeah, that talk is now available as pot of the access areas. Poss from the astrology summit vire soldier university. Austin? You totally have to come to the conference because it's likely that it'll be my book launch. And you've been such a good supporter aka kicking me up the proverbial to get that done. So it wouldn't be able potty without you there. I'm sure I'll be there. I'm dramatizing my reaction to being selected in the first round. Well, also because fear and sundry. I'm sure we'll have a presence with their beautiful ways. Maybe maybe. There's not a whole lot of vending with fear and sundry. No, that's true. Yeah. That is a Piat tryst patriots. Surgery will be vending for the first and only time so far at as above. Yes. So little little little icing on an already delicious layer cake lake one, one one type of cake being me the other Gordon Cape being the icing. I don't know. And so the question what kind of cake in my? Well, that'd be some chili in there for sure. Also butter cream. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. You can't do cancer rising without a little Buttercream on my God at all. So this is like the awkward combination. I am in reality Chile Chile and Buttercream, but that's sums up you Austin. Well, it's my job to figure out how to make that flavor. Profile work. I suppose you doing a great job hitting some confident confirmation he that sphere and sundry will only be vending it as above by special request. And that's it. Awesome. All right. So I think that's all the news and announcements we were going to do a few topics because we got kind of short timeframe for today before we gotta get into the forecast, which one did you guys wanna talk on? I one of them that I know Kelly you'd mentioned being a topic of interest was the episode. I did in to want to a one where we talked about dating astrologers as being like a funny thing since all three of us have different variations of that in common. Yeah. I I thought it was such a great topic. I listened to. I think I've listened to about the first half of that episode now, and I really enjoyed the discussion. I thought everybody made some beautiful points. Some of the points that you Genia was making around how she uses the strategy, very therapeutically. And then at the end of the day, she kind of likes to shut down from her PA has a different approach I really related to that too. Because I find with my own work. I go through periods where I have really intense client consulting periods. Where at the end of the day. I almost count rate. Anything more on a stroll because I'm deep in not more client consulting mindset and other periods where I'm researching teaching where I'm reading all the books, but even though I did mate my partner at a conference at Denver two thousand eight. He is no longer really super into astrology. So we do have a little bit of an imbalance where? I always, you know, a lot about astrology, and he knows a little bit. But there is a bit of a gap between the two of us, or I thought some of the points, you that were made in that podcast around when there is an imbalance of who knows what like how you really hold that. Because that's something that we do have to be really careful around your Perner. Peter's primary thing is terro eighties. Yeah. Yeah. He's great with the tarot probably those super limping used. So it's not like he's not open to metaphysical stuff at all. He just does like a different thing as his primary interest. Yeah. Absolutely. And one of the points that I think was made in the podcast was how important it was to have that shade kind of worldview or shed sort of orientation, and that's one thing. I think Peter this is probably the first time that we've had that now romantic relationship, and it makes a huge difference because you had been in previous relationships with like non astrologers while you re pursuing astrology as a career or at least. A major interest in your life. Yes. And was that tough or what it's gonna weed. Yeah. I mean, the very first sort of serious boyfriend who was the one I was with when I I was studying astrology he was in the financing astray and much more of a dry personality top. So I didn't really get that sense of respect from him around the value of strategy. And that relationship didn't law some show that was part of it. And then yeah, I had another partner in between who was very upset accepting of it, but not into it and wouldn't participate where Peter nor will often do things around wheel of the year. Festivals? And we have Tara cod. And we have astronaut planetary stuff sort of all around the house and some of teasing some of it's mind. So even though the specifics are a little different that interest in that sort of understanding from that perspective is definitely shaved. The really helps then and then Austin you your partner was already studying astrology before you guys mad because I met didn't I Caitlyn before you did. Studying Kepler college. So that was that your first relationship with another astrologer. No, no, I'd I dated people before they were into astrology. Okay. When I was you know, when you ever not. Before I was into a strategy. You know, I. I went so hard into strategy and made it such a focal point of my life so early and it still is that if you're not really interested in a strategy. I'm really boring to hang out with. It's not that. I, you know, it's not that I won't make an effort to have non astronaut conversation with people. But you know, it's been at the center of my life for not quite but almost twenty years. And so I think part of the way that worked is. I wasn't very interested. If you didn't think strategy was very interesting, right? I mean, isn't that ultimately the issue with like structure dating anonymous Challah jer or in terms of tension as it's not the this? It's not that this Troger necessarily considers the non astrologer uninteresting. It's almost the reverse that would look tremendously uninteresting or like, you're not doing something worthwhile. If you're devoting all your time to. Policy. If you didn't have any interest in door any think it was a valid subject on some level. Yeah. Yeah. I think that it's different when people have been together for a while and one of them gets bitten by the astrology bug. And and then, you know, and that's that's a thing to adapt to rather than you know, a sort of just presented at the very beginning. And part of the dynamic from the very beginning. You know, what I would say is that with Kate. And I both being students of strategy from the from before the beginning. I it's helped in countless conversations and moments like, you know, the more one understands themselves the better partner, they are the more you understand your partner, the better a partner, you can be and you know, in that's Nagel. But it's also transit like, oh, I'm mad about this. The moon is on my Mark. By degree. Let me see how I feel in like three hours, you know, or let me come back to this since you have, you know, there's a similar level of heat, right? Or you know, and knowing your partner's trances, just simple moon stuff as well as the more sophisticated methods 'cause people get into I think people get into a mode where there's one thing that they're unhappy about or that's happening at a particular time or one thing that they absolutely love, and they tend to imagine that that's the whole relationship while I can't possibly live with this. If this is the way, it's going to be whereas the strategy shows, you that, you know, the both you and your partner are in very specific phases at any given moment, and that they're doing this part of their chart for you know, this day this month this decade, and you're doing this other part of your chart, you know, the the chart is big enough that it takes a whole life for more. To unpack in its totality. And having a a consistent reminder and timing tool for that keeps you from just focusing on on on this one thing and thinking that's all there is which people get stuck in. Yeah. Definitely provides a really great context of framework for understanding, and it can help with a little bit of compassion. And as you said also dial down some of the reactive nece as well. Have you guys had drawbacks though or issues where you felt found astrology is like not productive or was counterproductive in the relationship or created unique problems? Let's say that you wouldn't have if you were to non astrologers, I don't think I've I don't think that's happened Kelly. I mean, the biggest thing for us will be that. Sometimes they'll be something going on where we're dealing with some drama or something together not necessarily between us, but something we might be just dealing with. Because that's what we're dealing with at the time. And all sort of be like, oh, that's because this thing is doing that thing in my husband's Chato. That's because this is happening to me. And it's like, okay, we'll just go to get through it. But I sometimes forget to tell him that and he'll find who we like getting a lot more stressed out about it. And like, I've got to tell you that it's just this thing. And you know, just let's just give it a couple of days, and it's not going to be as rough as it seems right now. So and that's just way h of us having a different connection to strategy comes name. Well that sounds pretty mild. I mean, you guys then have not had the joys of being in a relationship where you guys have completely different approaches to let's say house division or sign. Rumors Shep or like one of us of Veda stronger, the others like into Chinese astrology or something extreme like that. Now, some of the most hilarious relationship fights that you have ever experienced, and I feel a little bit bad if neither of you have never had to experience that have you experienced that Chris. Yeah. I I was in a relationship once where the other person. I was using whole sign houses. And she one of the things she said was like she really just hated whole sign houses passionately, and she was we had different languages, but one of the things she said was like whole sign houses is the devil is one of the things that she said at one point in like an argument, and this is not a healthy relationships. I'm not gonna play this office. If it was a great thing to begin with. But you know, having astrologers having arguments about vastly differing approaches. Technical approaches is not something that I've heard that's uncommon when it comes to a stranger sometimes dating have heard of like traditional straw, dating a modern astrologer or somebody that does Veda and serial dating like tropical astrologer because normally you would think if you're both strategies are both coming at it from the same perspective, and you have some shared worldview that creates a connection between which is true to some extent. But in fact, if there's major technical differences between you? Then it's like your actual worldviews perceptions of yourself in each other sometimes come into conflict in like hilarious ways that you wouldn't anticipate until you're actually in that situation. Yeah. I I mean, I sort of can imagine. But I also con because I haven't been in it. But that would be they would be almost. Well, I'm not that. Would it be more difficult to be in a relationship with someone who was in astrology, but had totally different technical basis to you. Then someone who just wasn't in astrology at all, right? And that's actually a legitimate question. Because you do get you can get to that point given the relationship depending on the relationship, depending on the temperament of the people involved. Yeah. Super interesting anyway, good times. So that was one topic that we thought about touching on in the pre show chat. Other topics. One of the things that came up is this article is being passed around about somebody like Portland who was renting out a room and rejected a candidate because they were 'Capricorno or something like that. And it which is funny. And that's the actual reaction that a lot of the astrologers have is just like that's dumb kind kinda funny. But it was actually got picked up by the guardian and a bunch of other news sites like respectable news sites as an instance of people using a strategy to discriminate or basically for discriminatory purposes, and actually made me really nervous, and I had a stronger negative reaction to it feeling like we needed to call that out publicly is like not really being cool on some level. Because I think it feeds into a false narrative that has become much more common over the past decade and skeptic circles where they're trying to take this line of argumentation that astrology is inherently discriminatory that it's not it's false, but it's false, and it's discriminatory because it leads people to make prejudices or prejudgments against people before they've met. Them and therefore is evil in some way and little things like this, even though it's stupid, and whatever is kinda funny. But it may have a deeper underlying sort of societal issue if things like that start adding up and people start actually thinking that astrology is used for for sort of prejudice. Yeah. It's it's I almost feel like when you hear these things it just shows the lack of understanding about the complexity of strategy it, and it reminds me of the question that sometimes I'll get from students sometimes even from client to a new to astrology where they sort of to know what sign should I be looking for tonight from a relationship perspective. And it's sort of like, that's I cannot stand way that question comes from. But it's the question itself is faulty because it so much more to it in the same way that. I almost see we'll Capra Cohen's pretty responsible lack of seem like the kind of if you would just doing some they seem like flat. My that would be relatively tidy and maybe pay the rent on time. So I'm not actually show. Why would reject them? But they've always got some sort of understanding will bias, you know, maybe they dated a Capricorn, and they didn't like, so they just think all copper coins, a bad, and that frustrates me so much when people make those blanket statements one thing, it was a little weird as mid have Ben just a purely sun sign or ended thing because the actual screen shot of the text message said something about this being like immutable household where we're all mutable placements. And we want the free flowing whatever nature that they're associated with that. And they didn't want some stern Capricorn coming in. And they said like donning the house or something like that. Yeah. So it might have actually been slightly more intermediate something astrology behind it. And I don't know if that actually makes it better worse because it still comes off as like saying that to a non astrologer like one of the things it just comes off as kind of tasteless at the very least. I don't know. Why do you goes both laugh at it? When you first hear about it. Like, what's your initial reaction? When hearing this story Austin. Will what is your respond by my initial response was was laughter. The. Why? Analysis did not come before the the reaction. Yeah. Like hacking or something. I'm just curious why every astrologers response to it as laughing. And if we could articulate why that is for somebody that doesn't know. Why what into would why why is that funny? I don't know. I don't have an explanation for that doesn't a clear explanation for that. That would be sensible to all does not come to mind. What do you think Kelly? I mean, it just I think it's a simplistic view to my mind. It seems like you've somebody's picked a random pace of information like the sun is incapable on and made a blanket judgment based on national and to my mind when you're looking for a flatmate there's a bunch of other criteria. But they've just projected stuff about Capra one's onto these person. And this person is probably so much more than just that may have all sorts of qualities, and that could make them a great flat might, but they didn't. I think also like you laugh, but also you feel sad that people get blatantly rejected because of something that is important, but not the whole of who they are and this discrimination. They may be. Sure. So then it leads to the broader question, then of is a strategy inherently discriminatory or is that like a misuse of strategy. And is that why it's funny because then we're just laughing at like that's kind of a dumb. Use of strategy because it's actually much more complicated than that. And just to reject somebody based on their sun sign or something like that is so that will let me just say that the the over simplicity of it is part of the humor just like picking a sign. Be like. Yeah. Fuck geminis. Right. There's something funny about that. It's silly. Secure in the chat saying that the the personality made a really long and thought out response and apology about that. That was an interesting re I've been wondering if those people understood what was how they must have seen like all the media response to it says curious if it was an actual astrologer, or what could you share where that was? Because that's kind of interesting I read that will so to get to the the central point right, which is the is a strategy discriminatory. In a does if we take discrimination, not in the legal illegal sense. But in red proper meeting term does it does it allow a person to tell the difference between one thing and another and then to choose between those things will if it didn't do that. Then there would be no point studying it, the, you know, the central supposition of election astrology, for example, is that sometimes or more fortunate for some things the central idea behind cinistry or the relationship between charts is that some some configurations between charts facilitate harmony and growth more effectively than others. Right. And if we were to take this if we were to take this, you know, this mino- no-kap records need apply thing, and and develop it to the point of, you know, like full astrological technique. Let's say, you know, it was like, okay. I don't want somebody with a badly afflicted second and fourth house because that's going to fact living situation and also may speak negatively to their ability to do their part in domestic labor as well as come up with the, you know, the rent money, and they're part of the internet Bill, and if that can be seen in a chart then. You know, and like is that than discriminatory writing? It is discriminating. It's choosing one person over another. But those are all criteria. Those are all crate astrological ways of addressing the criteria that would be immediately relevant to a living partner. Right. So the question I think the the better freezing in the quest or another way of looking at it. Would it be okay to do that? If if you know strategies full tools were proud to bear in a way that was most likely quite accurate. Right. I mean, so the what you bring up then earn what you bring up a part of what I'm getting from what you're saying that brings me more to the crux of the relying issue is that a strategy sometimes is used and part of the purpose is partially to try to use it to infer what will happen in the future before an action has actually been taken Orton for what kind of actions, a person might take your what kind of patterns of person on will tend to enact over time. Sure. But then the point still would be part of the crux of the issue. It still be that. If the person hasn't done that action yet, you're still making a sort of prejudgment ahead of time. And in some instances, you might be wrong that the person might not end up taking that specific action, given a certain scenario or the things that you're taking his indicators as potentialities may not end up manifesting in that precise way. And the in some ways, you can't fully know until you're in the actual scenario that you're talking about. Right. Every every prediction that you've ever made every assumption. You've ever made about a person based on their chart always been correct will know, and so the the question that is. You know? So whenever a person is choosing a roommate? The the whole game is predicting the future as best you can and picking right? And so you're the goal is to discriminate between of the people who apply a who'll be the best roommate based on the tools that I have for seeing into their past in a way that would predict the future as well, as you know, intuition about a person little cues at cetera et cetera. Everybody who's interviewing roommates is already in that game. And so if you have a good track record with a strategy, you you know, you might not talk about it. But you probably would do that. Would you not look at the at the chart of a potential roommate? I mean, there's a couple of points. He like Austin what your offering what you're offering. But what you're sort of suggesting is a more nuanced and deep work of strategy. I think one of the reasons that I had sort of that funny reaction is just to make an assumption like that by sofa sometime placement is you don't even know what's going on with the second or the fourth or what have you? So it's maybe an inaccurate or ineffective or superficial use of stolidly which on our it annoys me. But I also sort of you do say it all the time. And then I think absolutely there is the pot stole is a tool to help you choose. And of course, you're gonna want to choose the best for you in a situation. It's. You can't always get a perfect solution though. So sometimes you are going to have to deal with a flatmate or a person that is an ideal doesn't have the best shot, and they can be some negotiation school, some compromise. Skills can be some sort of learning growth that happens by being in a situation that isn't as Ardila as you might lock it today. Yeah. I mean, I understand your general point. And that's actually a good point Austin. And it's what point Lisa made as well. Which is a strategy is one of many different like Hurace tick, the vices that people use in order to make a Cessna about things, especially if you're doing something like that. Which is sort of like an interview about do. I wanna live with this person or have them in my home. Or what have you? I guess it's just there's some sort of balance there. That's not well defined the astrological community today of what's in okay. Application of astrology versus when would things be going too far. So a lot of people. I haven't watched this yet. But a lot of people have been citing some television episode about like, a scifi television show that apparently did something on this recently where they had a show about like a whole society that used a strategy as part of like creating different castes systems or different things like that. And the sort of like extreme scenario of what if society fully embraced it and used it to categorize people in ways that were may be like overly restrictive or not healthy. And I guess that's part of the underlying question as well. As just at what point would it be like, a misapplication, which would verge on something that we might more closely associated with prejudice or racism in a negative sense versus what? Is the constructive? Positive application of it. There's a good Amion to that one. Very simple answer to that. Is it should never. There should never be legislation that privileges or disadvantages people based on their charts. Very very simple level like that. That should absolutely never happen. So people by law at least should never it should never be put into law. So then that that raises the question that was raised in the guardian article, which is that technically something like this is not a legal right now. Like filtering somebody based on their birth chart is not something that's covered by like anti-discrimination laws. But then should it be or could it be at some point. Because then we get into the legal angle as well. Anyway, I'm not saying there's any good answers to this. But mainly just raised in the discussion since one of the things one of the feelings, I have is this is not going to be the last time, we see headlines stating astrology used for discriminatory purposes, and some newspapers and things like that this saying, you know, a ha- like this confirms that astrology is primarily just a form of prejudice. And here's an example of it. Because I've seen this argument. It's a relatively new argument. But it's one that skeptics have been getting more loud about I've noticed over the past decade or so so that I think it's going to be like one of the sort of angles that they use in order to convince people that not just that astrology is wrong. But also that it somehow evil in some way. Which I don't personally believe, but I'm interested in how strangers would respond to an if they can provide a sufficient compelling response to accusations like that. All right. Well, that's all I've got on that topic. There's a lot of stuff coming in chat. But so were there any other topics that we meant to touch on as pre show stuff before we get into the forecast? Let's see do we have anything. Stew to-do will. I don't think we have time for anything else. Anyway. I mean, we're forty five minutes, we probably should get to the full cost itself. Just so we can take time with that. Take a leisurely stroll through the son's time in Torres through the tourist time will speed up. The Gemini we've left too much foster starting may twenty first. All right. So let's get into the forecast for the month of may, then let me pull up the solar fire charts that we can see the actual strategy for the month. He go. Can you guys see that we can now loud and clear brilliant? So this is the chart for set for may I twenty nineteen sometime in the afternoon here in Denver. It looks like we start out the month with Mars in Gemini, where it's gonna spend a decent portion of the month before eventually moving into cancer. The sun is of course, moving through Torres. Most of the month of may Saturn has recently stationed retrograde in Capra corn as has Pluto and Jupiter is not long ago station, retrograde such terriers. So what are the highlights? Do. We wanna go by like chronologically or in terms of the highlights for the month. Easy. Let's go. Let's go chronologically. Okay. Let's stroll. Take it all in. So I see that mercury starts off in areas. But it's moving very fast at this point in. It's not gonna spend super long in that sign, and it looks like we have a new moon that takes place just a few days into the month. And Taurus, right? Yeah. May may full of may fourth. Okay. So Newnan Taurus at fourteen degrees of Torres. This is our first new moon. I think since you're an his moved into Torres. So that's yeah. Nice. Any other comments about this? Newman. Official. Do you wanna start Austin? Sure, I mean like any new moon, which is the joining of the sun and moon in particular sign in place. You don't recenter things. You know, the new moon is the time to. You know, take a do that slow do that pivot between letting go of what you've been doing? And picking back up what you're gonna you're picking up. What you need to be ready for in the next cycle. You know, it's an adjustment period at the transition period. It's it's an end beginning. And so here were re-centering in Torres, right? And in the very in the dead center of Torres. When might argue is the touristy as part of Torres. And although you know, mercury and Venus are in areas. Venus being the ruler of Torres is of special importance this gives it this gives us a little bit more fire right than than than like, a raw or archetype. It's still, you know, it's it. It's still that. They're still a focus when you're dealing with tourists with pacing. And making sure that your recovery is equal to your efforts. Right. You know areas is sprinting where you go as fast as you can any worry about recovery later, but Torres always comes after Aries, right? And you can't sprint through a whole season. And even though there's still little little bit of speed put on this first part of may with the planets in areas in the Marsden. Gemini, Taurus, is as the the Newnan tourists is certainly a a reminder to check your pace, and to make sure that you won't you know, that your again, your leisure recovery has a has a thoughtful relationship to your exertion. Yeah. That's really well put Austin, and I had focused in as well like the Newman interests ruled by Venus in Aries. So there is some some contrast or tension between the go slow take your time, breathe it out Torres versus Venus areas, which is quite FOSS paste. Although at the time of the new moon. They Nacy's moving into a square with satin in Cabra colon. So I thought that was a really nice combination around this new moon, prompting may maybe fresh effort or renewed if it vein ac- Mary's towards a longer term project or goal as represented by the sentening Capra cone, and it may be that this new moon sort of mocks the realization that an adjustment is required. Because always find a square aspect tends to indicate with us some tension. We can't quite keep going as we all we need to tweak things we need to just refine the what we're doing or how we're going about what we're trying to achieve. And so it's not quite as simple as you assigned to Austin. It's not just out. You know, you can have the new moon interests with Venus Pisces Venus in Virgo, and it's going to have a totally different tone. So there is still some activity, but I think that idea of measuring the F it, but will. So thinking about it more of a marathon rather than a sprint, which we get from the Taurus in g and Venus being aspect to Sutton. I think the Venus squares a really important point, you know, that that Venus Saturn's where may indicate that there is a need to do to do another little push now their little sprint. But against the background of pacing Ray like, yeah. I need to I need to push a little bit more here. But that's not what I'm doing for the next several weeks. That's something I need to do right to finish up. A lot of last month stuff or finish up things that were that are still need that need just that little bit more to get across the finish line. One of the things that's interesting about this since this is the first new moon in tourists since you're an went into this sign as sometimes you have the question about. So you're in this has gone into a new, for example, whole sign house for everybody, and everybody's chart and for some people you'll start seeing changes in that house sooner. And for other people, it might be later, depending on if they have any fixed sign placements earlier in the sign or later in the sign that are gonna get hit by urine us exactly at some point. But for some people with this new moon taking place this being the first new moon in the sign since you're in in grassed. I think we're going to start to see some new developments, and some people sort of laying the the seeds for some of the changes indicated by urine is really starting to grow after this point compared to what the past month or two that you're in this has been in that sign so a new beginning, but specifically tied in with some of the disruptions. And the detours indicated by urina- snap moving through that sign of the course of the next decade. Yeah. And that's really doubled down on by what happens over the ensuing days because not very long believe it's on Monday, the sixth mercury moves into Taurus and spends the next several days in conjunction with urine us. Right. And so I think part of what you're gonna see. There is one, you know, just the standard disruptions in revelations coming in on a mercurial level. Like that's new thinking. It's also disruptive for communications Bob law, all that, you know, that standard stuff, but it's also. Bringing the mind are bringing the in elective mind to thinking about the unison Taurus stuff that's already happened over the last month and a half which is going to help bring to fruition. Some of those some of those mutations which are planted but pending and then the week afterwards. Venus will do the same and join your. So we have mercury and Venus innocence playing catch up with the sun and hitting urine, as you know, after the sun, and that'll that'll continue to develop that will continue develop whatever those uranian of events signatures unification's mutations were planted by the new moon in Taurus, right? Yeah. I love that eventually Venus ingress in goes in there and conjoined Uranus as well around the time of the full moon in Scorpio later in the month is really interesting because we get this once a year where it's like the sun goes through Torres and then Merck. Goes through around the same time, and then be eventually catches up or goes through within a month or two of that as well. And it's just sort of a regular recurring thing, but we have this tonal shift. Now that's happening for the first time in any of our lifetimes where we have this other like outer planet sitting in that sign sort of disrupting the normal flow of that or at least causing a tonal shift in what it's like for each of those planets to go through that sign in some sense Taurus's different territory for the next while and both of you are doing consultations frequently still are already seeing some of the shift come up in clients charts with you're going through tours. Yeah. I would say that that is number two for the urine shift is the number to culprit for stuff. We're talking about the main thing is that that south notes, Saturn Pluto like that. It's just like, you know, maybe two thirds. Of the consultations of done this year. That's that with the person with the client wants to talk about is anchored to San south note Pluto, but number two year nece. What have you seen Kelly yet? Definitely seeing those teams come through for sure. And and I'm just thinking, and then it's sort of the nuance. The individual nuances about topics of what areas of live, but also what internal landscape the individual is making those transit's we depending on some of the progress placements and cycles, so. It is that they are the big themes transit wise of the year, the south Norwood, Santen, Pluto, you Ron us into Taurus. I have had some clients these you who are dealing with the Neptune in Pisces peso for people who've got important factors. And maybe that I don't know where I don't I don't I don't necessarily think about it in a number way as you have Austin. But they definitely definitely the same. The I mean, I was joking with a student loss weight that was sort of Oscar how do you move through the famous so quickly, and I sort of was just saying because I mean it every day, and then because this Sutton station, you know, I'm like I've got the dates of Sutton at twenty degrees capital and memorized because I've been repeating them in client sessions for the lawsuit of six to nine months to clients who have planets or angle points chop factors around that twenty degrees of any of the cardinal signs. It's like, okay, we're doing this dance. And these are the dates, and this is this is a territory, right? And you mentioned the is funny because that was the other story that we forgot. That we skipped over at least. But now that makes me realize that story must have been particularly triggering for you Kelly and the question of whether whether like familiarity, let's say with an ephemeral is a necessary. Prerequisite to be an astrologer is the broader question. I thought I had as we were once we started recording live clearly out ongoing discussions on the podcast about how important this book is. And why should have one would just not saying that often enough allowed enough? That's what I've taken from this on. I like that. Yeah. Or maybe none of your listen to the podcast. I don't know that is a possibility. So an I I don't wanna keep like having to play devil's advocate, but for the sake of playing devil's advocate I wanted to say that what if we're in a period where we're not in the same way that over the past two decades, we've moved into a period where knowing how to calculate chart by hand. For example, is not a necessary prerequisite to be to call yourself in strategy. Have we actually reached a point where even knowledge of the feminist while useful and something that we love clearly? And think is like a very useful tool. Maybe it's not necessarily a prerequisite in this day and age where everybody is just calculating charts on websites or with apps or what have you? So I think that's a great question. And I think that what is important is that you should know what the planets are doing and what they plan on doing. And in feminity is is or in a femur is a way of knowing that you should have knowledge, right? Like planet watcher gives a person knowledge of where the planets are. It's a it's a it's a digital visual ephemera, but it's an famous, and I I, you know, I would prefer people know that word, but if I have to choose I would much I would definitely prefer. They have the knowledge of what the planets. Doing and what they're going to do and whatever particular tool, they are using to obtain that knowledge is way less important to me than if they have that knowledge because that's what we need as strangers right? I mean consoler fire, for example, are Astra dot com is in a feminist, and it's based on it's based on the Swiss ephemera, sit shows planetary positions, and you can look up where they were in the past and where they will be in the future. So then are we at a stage, then where that's sufficient because you're basically using a computerized feminists that shows it to you in segments or that you can animate versus just having it in book form. Yeah. I I don't think that a list is superior to an animate -able. Click -able of visual display the visual display that you know, a visual display like Mina watcher or like, you can animate a chart and solar fire. Let's you see everything at once in lets you see rates relative movement. I would say that that is when when possible when you have that on that's a that the tool that gives you more information, it's a superior form of arranging information. But you don't always have that, you know, handy. And so having in book form his super handy too. Sure. Yeah. That's a beautiful point Austin. And I agree with you. I think as long as people understand the white planet cycle works that it can be at one degree today. And it can be back there again, three months, light or six months later. That's that's really critical and if. You have access to software that is going to animate that for you. And you've got the patience, and you take the time to go through it by awake by wake depending on which planet you looking at you will get the same information for Shaw. Yeah. Do you want to defend though, the pro ephemera? I know that my preference for book famous pot of personal thing in that. I'm a massive type of person, and I like to feel something in my hand. I like to use a pan on a pace of pipe. And so. That's that's how I like. To learn do like a little bit of the hands on manual. From a teaching perspective are have found that students who take the time to work through the paper of feminists. They can sort of plot follow the planet's Papa in a way, that's. There's a clarity to it. But I also know that some Lewin is much more visual, and they would definitely prefer to see the diagram wheel. Or even to say, you know, those transit map grid things but little coming. I've talked about I think I'm on my third version of the the twenty first century feminists right now. So I do, but but I completely knowledge it's my personal preference. But I do recommend it. I think there's a lot you can get from it. And when I teach progressions, it's a really great tool, and I encourage students whether they buy the bulk you don't have to spend money on it because the Suissa feminists is available free online. You can just Google Suissa feminists and the year that you need whether it's twenty nineteen twenty twenty and you can just print off six shades and have your ephemera. So the information is definitely definitely there. But yeah, I mean, I do five of the pipe about I that. That's partly postal preference. Sure. Sure. I mean, there's something about being like open a book and see one hundred years at a glance of planetary movements. That's kinda useful not a requirement, but it's certainly a different perspective on the planetary movements. And maybe gives you more insight into them than you might have otherwise. But yeah. All all a point out for defending the paper Emma's. If you're going to be a Bill yourself as a professional astrologer. And they're the implication is that you were in expert. It's not just that, you know, something about astrology, many, people know something than, you know, have being knowing what a printed amorous is and being able to use it if you know, if that is where the information is available and not other places that is I would I would I would set that as a bare minimum requirement. That's very low bar. It is a low bar. That's true. I guess when the store came up, and I don't get too much into the story at itself. I just part of me felt a little defensive over the person because I wasn't sure if we entered an era where maybe that's not in the same way that knowing what a table of houses is not a requirement for being an astrologer knowing how to calculate a chart is not a requirement for being an astrologer at this point like astronomically, literally knowing the astronomy underlying what you're doing because a strategy is primarily an interpretive art, and our primary litmus test for an astrologer is can they interpret a chart effectively. I think you know, I think we all agree may be above anything else right by I wouldn't really agree really at. Yeah. It you have to interpret. I mean, when I'm teaching my students always say the process to get to a chart interpretation. You I have to give us Dada. You have to gather. You know, what is in the birth chop? These planet replacement will these aspect this planet tree condition, then you have to kind of synthesize or auto the data in the context of this shot. It's a night chop this stuff going on with the moon is more important than maybe this stuff going on with the sun. Although maybe it's so you have to do have to do a little bit of Dada management before you get to the interpretive pace. The bulk of how work has a strategist easy interpretation. That's way. That's what we do the heavy lifting. We translate the language of the sky into something accessible for people who may not be studied in this form. So it is interpretive. But to do good interpretations. You have to do good Datta wrangling beforehand. I guess sure. I guess the question is just at this point. What's the bare minimum in terms of data wrangling that you should be able to do beyond that was one of the debates. I saw some of the older astrologers having. Over the past twenty years, especially like twenty years ago or ten years ago like in Holden's book, he has this offhand comment where he talks about how most astrologers have just become like advanced, computer users this point because all you need to know to calculate a chart has just how to enter the birth data, and then a calculates for you. And you don't need to know the underlying astronomy behind the chart, but it just raises a really interesting issue. And that's something that I think about that comes up in instances like this is just the broader debate. That's like this attornal debate within the astronauts community, which is what what what are the criteria for being able to call yourself in stroller. And because of the lack of standardized testing or certification in the field that's been a debate for decades at this point because there's no clear answer to that question necessarily. Well, we can give our own answers. But the seniors everyone is doing everyone defines that for themselves. I guess it's a self defined self regulated thing. Yeah. That's a better way of putting. So I didn't mean to say there's no answer. But many people have different answers in define that different ways to themselves. Some people, for example, say you have to have certification from a organization or from school, for example, do any of you as have did you get certification? Yeah. Nope. The boxes went to do. I I'm certified by the FAA industry Leah even tat calculated shots by hand. But that's also partly my age because I didn't have a computer when I first started studying strategy. So. And partly that's my age. But also the fact that I'm tick idiot, and I'm just not I would not have been an early adopter computers existed. But I wouldn't have had one. And. Yeah, so yeah, I have the FAA practitioner level certification. It's comparable. I I don't want to compare it actually to the training centers often offered in America. There are three very comprehensive comprehensive essays. And then there's a mathematics calculation exam that you have to poss- that's probably comparable to like the jar certification of something. Yeah. And do you guys have any sort of or more like self taught? So which I know many people, you know. You know, I said, Nope. But then I guess I do have. I did get some certification through freedom Kohl's class for a. As far as that, particularly engine school goes being officially at UT shape. So I guess I do have that didn't really think about that. But no, I and that was that was just sort of, you know, a nice side effect of me studying things in a more formal context. But no, I didn't go through a certification program. It was self study. And then project hindsight material had a huge impact on may. And but I I haven't gone through a program. I also think if when we're talking about cert, there's a everybody who teaches if they if they're not just, you know, doing classes like, yeah, I'll teach you how to do perfection or yell. Teach. You, you know, let's talk about Sonoda cycles, or whatever it is on. If there's a teaching program that offers a stamp of approval at the end there. Then there are always standards or one good Lord. I hope they're always standards. Right. If you were, you know, Kelly, if if you were asked whether you would publicly rubber stamp or maybe like signet rings, stamp cooler stamp. Someone is like this person is ready to be professional like you would be like, okay. We'll definitely need to know. This is this this this, and this I would feel the same shirt Chris would feel the same. And I think this is certification is interesting because it ties in to questions of lineage, right because good lineage always has certification. And that's why it's that's why it's useful to study with somebody who's let's say four generations down because you know, there's been a quality control. And it wasn't just like for generations of people that Kana knew each other. Right. You're Suming that grandma. Great, grandma, and that tradition made. Sure that grandma new newer shit in the grandma mates, your mom, newer shed. And mom made. Sure, you knew you're shit. You know, and so there is the institutional certification issue in question. But then there's also that within lineages, and can I have your permission to go on to minute rant from here? I know have been talking about run as long as just keep in mind that we have forty five minutes left before two hours. Right. Our in fifteen right now. Okay. Yeah. This is I'd love to hear you rant Austin. Okay. This is a relevant rant. It's not about. How I hated the tacos got the other day. So although they were decidedly mediocre, so I've just been thinking a lot about lineage doing a reading for a client the other day, and I'll use my my Hellenistic, and my modern and my Veda in readings use all tools some conversations are, you know, all won all the other. But and you know, I just mentioned something about well, you know, in the tradition of vague that I've been studying I can't speak for everything that's happened on that subcontinent. We do this. And he was just like, man. Linnea? Sure is nice being able to learn from people rather than having to start from scratch. He's like I wish we had that with some of these western traditions. And I was like, yeah. That'd be nice. But one part of my Chuka -tarian reframe reflex on that was that with this. You know, volcanic eruption slash recovery of all these cortex the entire history of the astrology that went west from Alexandria, where I feel like we're in a we're in a an era where people will look back in see a number of lineages beginning. Now, like, they're people who are teaching and studying now who will pass on and their students will pass on and in one hundred fifty years people look back at this time as when lineages began, and that's that's both exciting. And I think more positive way to look at. We don't have any of that. And it sucks, and so that's my that's my point. Yeah. It's a it's a nexus where a bunch of the older lineages are being re started again, and then reconnected with a lot of the living modern lineages. 'cause actually I mean to be honest, though, there the modern lineages exist like if you look at an fair. Modern astrologer who's alive and practicing today, they have both books as well as often like teachers that they learned from Neva if they didn't take a lot from that person or that singular book if they didn't even if they didn't emulate that system completely. They were still influenced by some way. Yeah. We'll and let me let me clarify this conversation arose when we were talking about traditional traditional, western and Helena, stick. And so we don't have Jenner. We don't have like three generations of practitioners who've been Zakel releasing for all the twentieth century. We, you know, we don't have any. We don't have any grandparents to learn from with that, you know, that's been. Okay. So Vallon says this let's all experiment and compare findings or another one. That's interesting is the Horry lineage that was the traditional Horry lineage that was revived in the UK in the nineteen eighties. When because there. Original core group of that. That was like a Livia barklay pushes to get lily reprinted in the mid nineteen eighties. It's reprinted, and she starts teaching the qualifying Horry, practitioners course, or whatever it's called the qh P, and she has a number of students, and like that I of students included like John Frawley. Yeah. Deborah holding Leeman and like one or two actually several others. But those are just like, let's say three examples, and then for example, from those you have sort of students like Lee tot, for example, what's his name, Kevin Burke? So Kevin Burke within represent another generation that came after third generation than Kevin Burke has gone onto have students or you have, you know, Deb holding and she's taught students like or no actually backing up. Christopher Warnock was. A student of Liman. So that's he's a third generation, then he's gone on to teach other students and so on and so forth. So even in the recent traditional revival, which is relatively sudden. We're already seeing second and third and fourth generation students coming out of that in terms of those specific lineages. Yeah. And that's again, it's starting up again on, but and one thing I will say though, in this is not an insult to any of the people mentioned or in parallel situations on, but there there has been while this stuff has been passing huge new material translated, the beginning point wasn't a full astrology where you know, where where there was like a full traditional Nadel full traditional Hori a full traditional election will of full traditional magic. And there's a whole system and that was passed on. It was like, let's do you know like extracting. Extracting horror from lily and then passing that on. But then for a lot of the people you mention they found were added something completely new that wasn't part of the lineage, and so part of what I'm thinking part of. I think the Linea part of what makes something solid in its passing through the years is that it's relatively complete on. And that is not been possible until very recently. And so that was just a just a, you know, aside point. Definitely are a wonderful side points. I can't remember where we were in the month of may. I know this is really tough because I love you guys. I love talking about just. Logical conference. Got a hold it for late night chat that the transition and Torres is the fixed earth sign, and so therefore has a always speaks to what endures over time, and it's Venus ruled so we're talking about what is value that's passed down and maintained over time. And so we were just giving you a very extended detailed example of how Torian dynamics works. Stuff's in Torres last month. Think about it. I love it. Segue or it new moon in. Taurus, we have covered that mercury goes into Torres may sixth. Not seeing anything else. The moon keeps moving through Mars opposes Jupiter at one point around may six that looks like so Jupiter's getting that opposition from Twenty-three Saj from Mars at twenty three. Gemini, yeah. What do you think about that? I think tributaries kind of you know, it's been so well placed it moved into such Terry. But now we're starting to run into some problems and see some of the whatever the drawbacks are of Jupiter and such terrorist now that it's not only stationed retrograde, but it's getting that strong opposition from from Mars at the same time. This is kind of like the not worse case scenario for Jupiter. But certainly it's dont all like, you know, running through fields of roses at this point. Yeah, I think this one is I think the Mars Jupiter opposition bad for Jupiter. Good from ours. Yeah. Mm balloon gets popped. But MAs gets amplified in some way or encouraged. I always think about when I see an opposition like this to Jupiter with high energy MAs and obviously over the top Jupiter. It makes me think of an elastic band, which is just getting stretched and stretched and stretched and that idea of going over the top doing too much being pulled in different directions at the same time. There's obviously some tension. He because it is an opposition. So I think particularly if the mutable signs strong in your chart, all those degrees, Twenty-three, Gemini, Twenty-three Saj is strong in your chart. There is definitely a little bit of volatility. He I think it's workable or not that definitely has to have a positive outcome. Something has to cut will pulp he the elastic kind of goes too far. I think at this point. I think it's totally workable well two zero. Here's a here's a good and a bad of free. My from my perspective for Mars Jupiter opposition where it is good. It can be super you. Can you can have that marshal fire backed by Juba -tarian enthusiasm? Right. Like just getting a lot done keeping high spirits of as you overcome, you know, little challenges this, and that, you know, the negative part the negative side of the combination of Mars and Jupiter. You know is the is the crusader right is the is the the adding the priestly authority to the Marshall destructiveness and getting up on your high horse. Right. There's definitely some high horse possibilities there. With editors the twins writing the high horse, right? But you know, if that's direct in this is as a general with Mars, it's always better if it's not social direct Mars to accomplishing tasks, not accomplishing people. Yeah. I mean as you saying that also like this would be really good for someone who had a big riding project or big research project something where you could thinking specifically about a project for MAs in gem, ni-, something to do with woods or ideas that was a little bit self contained solo. Yeah. Exactly. In Jupiter can be used as an asset to Mars in this case and will will help uplift Mars little bit for the purely Juba -tarian piece injustice work, it's it's a real impediment. There is a little bit of sort of disagreement that comes out of this aspect, I think or quality of disagreement or discord, and it doesn't help that Venus is tightly square Saturn while this aspect climaxes, which is also not good for social accord. And for moods in general. Yeah. Yeah. Like what happens when the proselytizing of Jupiter in such terrace? Runs into heavy opposition from disagreeing party or a party. That's naturally running at cross purposes to that. Yeah. One just though Jay everybody's in a bad mood, generally speaking, right? And and you have that and Brittany Osler in the chat notes moon crosses twenty six tourists at the same pretty much almost the same time as the aspect yet. So little kaput algal action. Don't lose your head turns your head. Yeah. I mean, I do find watching planets going over goal is just a good clue a win. There's a heightened energy about stress wearing Zayed's or even inner mental anguish or just, you know, one just on that note one thing I find that's really interesting or one thing that I find really interesting about watching planets over fixed ours. In contrast to planets aspect each other. Is when planets make tight and strong aspects to each other. It's always there. Whereas one thing I find with fixed. Ours is if you go in the direction that fix star indicates like if you go towards the freaking out direction that algal indicates out goal will take you all the way home. But if you don't take step in that direction. I don't see a poll sear feel poll towards it. The fixed stars seem to be very on and off depending on whether you're you're moving with them or not. Whereas I see the planets as much as the planet's aspects to the planets as having a much more consistent, gravity. Definitely orange. Let's keep let's keep zooming through here. So that's the Mars Jupiter opposition Kelly. Say yeah, I'm really excited to get to fifteen with the mid month mood shift. Yes. So and so pretty much the same time as was mentioned, Venus has to square south note, Saturn Pluto, which is which is is hard on the heart. You know, it's dealing with its dealing with Venus, you're dealing with some of the relational consequences of whatever that's Saturn. Pluto thing is doing generally not uplifting. But also very very do. You have a few key words for Pluto that you come back to just like not to keep bringing us back to other far afield, topics. But the previous episode that we did before I did before this one was Kenneth Miller talking about the history of Pluto in how astrologers didn't seem to be on the same page about it for decades after its discovery. And then suddenly were but some issues surrounding that where they seem to be drawing in like Scorpio and eighth how signification for Pluto. And the question of is our understanding and definition of Pluto is as clear as it is for urine Neptune, for example. I don't think Pluto is IC the the big question. Right. I'm just throwing that out there that. No one you Chris. All right. Might my my keyword for Pluto is Chris Brennan. Yeah. Let's see. So icy Pluto as a modifier to the rest of the planets rather than as a planet in of itself. It is the access point eight it is the one member of the Kuiper belt, and that whole layer of the solar system that crosses in to our little system. And so it it's it's that gateway or access point to the outer darkness in which the soul and other things dwelled. I see a lot of gateways with Pluto stumbling into a world, you didn't know existed a secret world, which may be secret because it's bad or it may be just it may be hidden for other reasons in the psyche. That's you know, the all of the layers that get kind of conflicted into the subconscious or the unconscious poodle can also be accessing a criminal underworld. Old. It can be you know, the halls of power. It's it's access. It's things coming out of that secret world into your, you know, your sunny round or traveling from your Sony realm into whatever little little pocket dimension power in secrecy. Or certainly seems. And you I I think it's I think the the underworld symbolism is smack on the nose over and over and over again. All right. That was really good. But I do regret now already taking us on this digression. We can just stick with hers Brennan as the keyword. Yeah. I want to ask you if you have keywords Kelly, but we can either do that we can move on. What do you want? What do you can be very brief? I mean, beautiful point. Yeah. I like that you almost like the underworld to two of the world because I think and I like the idea of Pluto as a gateway because it does take you into a place either internally or into a set of circumstances that he's going to be Docker and mole confronting and demand. More from you. So very simple key words. Obsession investigation intense? There's a depth. There is an introspective quality to Pluto. But I also like the often say with clients triggers to do with extreme wealth will power will persuasiveness coming up with Pluto. But also know themes around trust, and loyalty and betrayal, and I appreciate a lot of those woods do crossover with maybe the Scorpio will the house patent, but they do seem relevant to Pluto to agree with every single one of those those what I see when I look at Pluto would I look at Pluto stuff in a person's chart by transit or NATO. Yeah. Chris we we did it quickly. Thank you. That was really good. Always like, Alan White. He had the statement that Pluto makes small small things and makes them really big. And it takes big things and makes them really small. And because that's to me as an archetype that just that statement covers a lot of the things like that. You see when you get like, Venus Pluto aspect, and you see somebody get getting really intensely obsessed with relationship and taking something very small and blowing it out of all proportion, or, you know, mercury Pluto aspect, and this sort of intensity which with which they can take something or Curiel and blow it into something. Very large. And the data point. All right. Let's get back to the forecast. So you guys were saying basically that we have those few ingress is we have the new moon at the beginning of the month. But then the big shifts don't take place until about the middle of may, right? Mercury's on ingress into Torres is important. Yeah. I mean, we touched on that. Right. So we've got that like that. Basically that's second that second week of the month is pretty stocked. Right. We've got mercury ingress in tourist spending. That time could junk urine as while Jupiter in sadder Chupin in Mars make their opposition and Venus squares the you know, the Saturn. Pluto, south node me grinder component. And then we're in the middle of the month. Okay. There we go. Smid month and Venus ingress into Taurus on may fifteenth. Right around the same time. We get Mars departing from Gemini and moving into cancer by the sixteen threat. Yes. Depending on where you are. I mean eastern time zone. They both happened on the fifteenth. But fifteenth sixteenth depending on where you are. Yeah. It just strikes me as a real change in tone going from Venus and Mazi in an air and Phya sign into an open water sign. So there's a slowing down or a deepening or softening with MAs. But that's not a good thing with MAs. And it also makes me realize to that. Because we have no MAs retrograde this year every six weeks, we get a different focus for MAs. And we are shifting in the middle of may for the first time since the end of February early March. We've now got a different MAs to guide us. And I mean Austin has given us very poetic now willed famous name for what the six week period is going to bay. But it's different. I mean, it will be less frantic in that scouted excessive mental quality of MAs in gem ni-, but it will have its its own challenges for sure. And you know, Mars movement into cancer puts it opposite by sign south than Saturn Pluto in the same sign as the north known. But that doesn't really get exciting for a while. You know, they're twenty degrees between them on the sixteenth. And so we really see the, you know, we really see the the the Mars firing all the all those dynamics up in June, primarily we'll see some. I think we'll see. We'll we'll see some sim. Sizzle reels of trailers action. So emotively packed trailers of what those dynamics might be. But you know, the the that doesn't really get moving until until later it's not just on the ingress in. It's go time. Yeah. I mean, this is certainly the the build up starts at that point. This is the build up for the summer. Yeah. Fireworks, and sort of some of the the clashes that we're anticipating with specially the Mars Saturn Mars, Pluto oppositions, gingerly, June or June July parade, right? Yeah. I mean, you Mazi cancer has much more of a mood equality and always find MAs and award sign, maybe not every would assign. But I mean, maybe just MAs in Canada. There is that idea of mood affecting motivation. So there is going to be maybe more fluctuation around when you feel inspired and you get things done versus feeling more. If you get hurt we'll you feel bit flat. And then just not being hot to motivate yourself with MAs and Canada. And there's a protective quality with MAs in Kansas to that is less inclined to extend outwards and more inclined. Unless maybe it's going on the attack. I guess so there is that could be a little bit of an internal sort of Bruti oil. Reflective tarn. I think it's just such a big chained with Venus and MAs both going from hot expressive Sohn's to cool dare I say introspective signs that the second half of the month feels quite different especially in this sort of. Seventy period before the sun changes science yet. It's definitely shift because one of the the contrast is going from a long period of a month or two where Mars the primary thing. It was running into was that opposition with Jupiter but shooters not stopping anything Mars is trying to do if anything the problem without position as Jupiter's just exacerbating. What Mars wants to in the first place and giving him free run to do whatever he wants and making him much bigger in doing whatever he wants. Whereas here wants Mars goes into cancer starts the build up to that opposition with Saturn, and the sort of gridlock that you run into with a Mars Saturn opposition where you have opposing forces of like, you know, fire and cold that are literally just running headlong into each other. Yeah. And that of course, exacerbated by the nodes, right? The nodes complicate the territory the one of the simplest things you'd say is the nodes make Clara. Difficult because the very reason we calculate nodes. And what they show were when a clips his happen. And it clips is our events of shadow and shadow means not being able to see something because it's in the shadows. And so, you know, the the the visibility around the nodes is always much trickier. And so, you know, integrates like, oh, the last thing we need is a a lack of clear visibility. When we're already trying to Mars Saturn opposition. Well. But that Venus in that Venus in Taurus is a saving grace to a certain degree, especially once it clears year s it's interesting that could junction with urine us is really interesting and should pop off it should pop off uranium uranian events more than any of the other previous conjunctions because urine is in Taurus is in a Venus ruled sign, and so it's conjoining its ruler maximum amount of ability to just make stuff happen. But then after urine Essen, Venus do their thing and Venus just in Torres for another twenty some degrees than we have the sort of classical Venus Torres as a as a stabilising luxury enabling factor, which helps mellow mellow down. The ambient strife from whatever Mars early early in coming. Up on opposition with Saturn. Creates. Right and notice right after Venus start separating from that conjunction with your as we get the full moon in Scorpio on may eighteenth. That looks like there's a culmination of the vents in Scorpio happening, and then just a few days after that we get the nearly simultaneous ingress of the sun and mercury into gem. And I where they can join and we have the mercury Kazimi at zero degrees of Gemini on may twenty first. Yes, I just remembered something. On the full moon weekend. So as you assigned that Chris I was like, yeah. That's the big weekend in may the may eighteenth nineteenth which is the scope full moon, and the veinous Conjunto rawness aspect all actually teaching in New York that weekend I'm doing a progressions workshop for the community there, which I forgot to mention earlier because I keep thinking that threat. The Scorpio full moon is in my ninth house. I'm going to be traveling to another country to take and. No brainer bicyc- timing astrology, but then the energy shifts. Yeah. Once we get to the twenty first in the sun and mercury almost like hold hands as they cross into Gemini. And that's totally different quality of influences. I mean, we go from the depths of Scorpio, and and then straight up to Jim ni-. I really love that sun. Mercury conjunction. Gemini, and that period with the mercury and Gemini, and then Venus and Torres actually opens up a great period. Leeson? I just recorded the auspicious elections episode for this coming month yesterday and saw that like all of the great election charts are taking place towards the end of may because you can really take advantage of mercury being and Gemini and being being in her home sign of tourists during the course of the latter part of the month. A really wish mercury wasn't combust for as long as it is in gem. And I you know, it being its own signs save some of that. But it's still not visible. Mercury. It's you know on in. That's not a that's not saying that can't anchor some good elections. That was just I found myself when looking at elections for that period. Just wishing, you know, get a few more degrees away from the sun, buddy. Just to you know, just could we have that too? Yeah. Picking and choosing. But yeah, those are the best things in the sky. Absolutely. That's that's that's what there is to build around. Yeah. Did did you have an election shot to shit? Chris will just throw it out now while we're talking about it. So a few days later, actually, one of the charts that we highlighted as the best chart one of the best charts for the month of may for electoral purposes, is on may twenty fifth around physically around six o'clock in the morning, just after sunrise, so make it so that in your city what if your city is just make it. So that the ascendant is in Gemini, probably around eight degrees and you'll end up with chart on this date. That has mercury conjuncture the ascendant at eight degrees of German. I the son also in gem, and I just a few degrees above the ascendant making it a day chart and then the moon on this date is an Aquarius, and it's depending on your time zone. Basically in Denver in all time zones. East of that you'll be able to? Get the moon still applying to sex tile with Jupiter with the moon being at twenty one Aquarius. And the ninth whole sign house applying to sex with Jupiter at twenty one cemeteries in the seventh whole sign house. If you're west of Denver, you may not be able to get that. But if you back this election up a day and just do may twenty four th you can still get the moon applying to Jupiter. So this is a great mercury election because it basically has mercury ruling the ascendant in the first house in its home sign in. Gemini, it's true that it is under the beams because its proximity to the sun. But because it's in its domicile that acts mitigating condition. Moore's is no longer in. Gemini, which is nice. It's moved over in a cancer. So it's no longer in the same sinus. Mercury mercury has that opposition from Jupiter, which was helpful. And it's not quite moved to close to the square with Neptune. Yet, even though that is still forming. Let's see. It's not good chart for financial matters because it places Mars in the second house in a day chart, but it is great for all other mercury related activities, like writing speaking communications and other things like that. So it's also about chart for seven the house matters with Jupiter in the seventh day chart in such Terry is ten thousand too bad either you've got angular Jupiter in sage ruling the tenth. Yeah. So it's kind of a bad chart for partnership related things in Denver. I think we pick the specific times that we could make the mid heaven kind of roughly configured to Venus within three degrees to kind of mitigate its toll house position because that's the only planet that otherwise we'd like to be in better shape, but isn't in the twelfth there. But if you can just get the degree of an angle to be aspect in Venus within three degrees, then you can kind of bring Venus out of its toll Faust position a little bit. And yeah, so. That is the and this is actually taking place. I think around the time of Norway. I was just thinking so whoever's up early on Saturday morning at Noah this shot or if anyone still happens to be out from the night before. Yeah. That that will not be me. But I don't think I'll be either utterly. Probably be a slight. Definitely. And I've used elections like this before to start like writing projects like four like a paper or a book or even like a blog post or something like that. Because mercury and Gemini is just really well suited for something. Like that. All right. Let's the election for this month. We've got three actually five other elections that we found for may of two thousand nineteen which are in the spacious elections podcast is available to patrons who sign up for a page on patriot which you can find out more information about at the Estrada, podcast dot com slash subscribe. All right. So that's the election for the month that brings us back. So we're in the lighter part of mercury and we are in the later part of this episode. So what are some of the stuff what some of the stuff that's happening in the last part of the month that we need to hit. We might as well just let give people a heads up about the moon in Capricorn period. Just because that I think every month, we should be paying attention people may already be paying attention to the moon capital and being especially melancholy because of the sentence out node, Pluto pileup. Yeah. I mean with all having stated recently sorry. Go ahead. I was just saying with all especially with all of that having stationed retrograde they recently. Yeah. And so even though we don't get a, you know, a climax of whatever the Mars Saturn thing is for a while. We do have Mars and Saturn are both cardinal now. And so that means that whenever we're looking at the moon's passes through cardinal signs were gonna be making, you know, oppositions or hard aspects to all of them Olympics at once which is kind of good for the benifits. Right. If we're looking at fix science, the only things to aspect you're innocent Venus. If we're looking at mutable signs, right? There's nobody who's particularly ornate. But it's you know, it begins a challenging period for cardinal signs in cardinal. You know, the transit and cardinal moon is and most especially for cancer and Capra corn. Yeah. I think it's a beautiful point. And because really we will get the mood opposite. Mas. He early in capital, and then the moon slide straight into the conjunction so eighties. That's a really great point. Austin? I think just keeping your wits about you on. These cardinal moon Sundays. Yeah. Well, and just to jump back to what you said about the the melancholy of hitting hitting Saddam Pluto, south node, actually had a friend just mail may or message private message a while ago. It was like, oh, while the melancholy from the moon's movement through Capricorn, Israel, and yeah, that, you know, Saturn's melancholic whereas Mars Saturn on an emotional level as far as emotional primary colors in terms of negative emotions Saturn is sadness or depression, and then Mars is anger. Right. And so that's part of why can be difficult when Mars and Saturn or together because it's being both angry and said, you know, it's one thing to be angry. Right. Like, you can take some deep breaths, or whatever. But when you're angry or just be sad. But angry and sad at the same time is harder. You know? That's a that's a it's like, the everybody's least favorite. Mix up or mash up as it were. I was trying to think in terms of frozen yogurt flavors being combined. But it didn't come together. That's where my mind went was like really really awful. What what would what would a satin flava bait? I don't know what frozen yogurt tastes like sadness. Taco. It would be so bland charcoal and gasoline, I don't know. But I mean. We don't we don't have to follow this this frozen yogurt metaphor. I just got very curious. I'm like, but I can use MAs. You can chili or something with hate as a flavor. But I was like what flavor I was genuinely like, I don't know what flavors would be satin. We're going to have to have people riding and let us know this Adnan bitter, sometimes of cold not not like cool like yogurt cold. But. The astringent yet. Thank you, just check March. I was looking for stringent. Yeah. Astringent bitta. So you can't really have ice cream because you'd have to have it without the shoe. Maybe I don't know like star in niece, and no, I don't know. Anyway, all coffee coffee's. All right. If the serves me coffee, I will be delighted coffee. I mean, it's an impact in that. It energizes would be a MAs thing. But the taste of coffee is quite drying. It is drying. So that works that works with both. They both drive. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, I 'cause I did notice the mooning capital period at the end of April more so than I normally do. And of course, I was reminding myself that satin had just stationed retrograde. And so I think that melancholy quality is further enhanced by the retrograde of satin. And then as you said Austin went out, not just sad. Bad and flat. But we're also going to be angry since we have MAs and cancer from the middle of may until early July, and it's important to notice that anger isn't always full blown rage, right? Like irritability irritib-, you know, being irritated is. You know, is basically just like level one anger. When you're like things are going that. Well, and they did that superhero tasting rated it's that you know, that that combination that makes those two challenging to deal with. Yeah. Short tempted and being being short tempered and under pressure by. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great way to. So it might be good idea to start paying attention to that sector of your chart as we get the the build up as soon as Mars ingress in the middle of the month in cancer and starts moving into that opposition very slowly with Saturn for some of those themes to sort of start coming up and maybe to start being a little more cautious in that area of your life. Yeah. I think one of you mentioned this that the flip side of that is things get a little bit better for Jupiter as soon as MAs moves out of jamming because Jupiter doesn't is not dealing with. You know, the satin problems because it's in a blind spot and Jupiter now, no no longer has that thorn in side kind of energy of MAs baying in the Sinai. Opposite. Yeah. And that's actually one of the last aspect. I see the month is mercury opposing Jupiter around may thirty thirty first from twenty gem night to twenty secretaries. Yes. And that's that's basically how we close off the month. Yeah. The only other aspect that. I might throw in just to get you guys tycoon it there is a trend from Venus to satin. Right with a lot of dignity because obviously this is in her harm sign. Satin is in his home sign. I don't know. I'm kind of like that forbid of stabilizing grounded energy think. So I wasn't. I wasn't sure if you guys a grade or had a different type. Definitely try and between those two more almost quasi earthy planets taking place in earth signs, like a very grounded and stabilizing trimbe and nicely helps to liven up and smooth out Saturn a little bay in a way that it's otherwise not a lot of this time in Capra corn is its retrograde drunk Pluto in the south node. Yeah. I would also look at it that way primarily is that that's help with the Saturn stuff. Absolutely. And I mean that is we didn't hop on it a lot, but Venus in tourist is one of the little blessings from the sky this month of may. And we have almost full wakes of her. I'm actually excited to to have her go every us because I'm interested to say how the Rana stuff develops or emerges with Venus. Uranus conjunction. I'm interested to say news headlines when that comes out, but also the personal life developments. But yeah that Venus Transat in. Very end of the month. The moon is actually interests on the same day with your on. So that might take off. I don't know whether we get more Iran motorists, but there's a little bit of stability coming in the it's the wake off Nowak. So I sort of think I'll behind my Gaden, and it'll be onerous Venus. They in. No, it's like the day after Norac. Like that. It's gonna. Yeah. It's yeah. I guess it's the couple days. How? Yeah. I like that one of the reasons, you know, when I when I talk about that, you know, the Mars the Melik party. And you know, I I've never said, oh, it begins as soon as Mars moves into Taurus are. Cancer is because you know, we're looking for where the trouble is. I I would say look wait until Venus moves out of Taurus because Venus interest is just gonna have this is just going to be in the sky. It's going to rise once a day it's going to culminate once a day. And so we have this stabilizing co hearing power, and then when Venus moves into Gemini, we lose that we lose any configuration to the difficulty access here. And that's where the, you know, the Melik party will get to shine all on its tone. Yes. So enjoy veinous in towards while. We have. Yeah. And stabilize things, you know. Yes. That's an opportunity to stabilize things and firm things up before some of the tumultuousness of of the next month and a half. Clo. Good advice. All right. Nice while I think that brings us pretty much the end of the last alignments of the month, and at that point we're getting into June and other stuff that we are going to have to wait the X look at that. Mercury changes signs really fast afterwards than the moon goes in very early in June. And then we start getting the build up to all of that. Yeah. It there's a there's a very clear shift in that direction. One thing two things really quick just to go just to hit again that happened in may the happened in may one the opposition between mercury and Jupiter. Also has a partner in Neptune Neptune is tightly square both of them while that occur. And so, you know, there's a there's a note of confusion or lack of clarity, or you know, or just very. Big dreaming that can't be ignored their, you know, it might be possible to get excited about ideas that aren't going to happen, then or ideas that are gonna take a lot of energy to actually make happen Neptune gives you that that biggest of all possible circles possibilities, you know, which doesn't always work out. And then just one note on that that full moon in Scorpio with Venus conjuncture Ernest that could be a little crazy. Oh, it's going to be. It's crazy. We didn't. We didn't give that when the crazy stamp. It could be crazy. Good with that Venus. Eunice for some people is going to pop out some crazy. Good stuff. It's also gonna pop out some crazy bad stuff. And it's also going to just pop out some crazy stuff, but you know, crazy tending in many different directions full moon. Yeah. It's a pretty dramatic weekend. For sure some actual people have that mocked in the diary. It's right after that shift of Mars into cancer wells, that's like an element of it. That's tinging things as well. Of course. Right because Mars rules Scorpio. And so it's a it's a that's actually mutual reception. Now that you pointed out. Right. Good times are the alcoholic activision. So yeah, take care. You say don't lose your head or maybe CO it somewhere safe where you can retreat where you know, you put it somewhere where you're going to remember where you hit it. So you can recover it in tax later. Beautiful. And if you're in New York, I have to see you in person that weekend, and we can lose our heads in a good way. Together. What are the dates on other eight may eighteen I'm it's just a full day workshop on the Saturday. I think it's ten till four thirty or five through the NC. And if you Google. Kelly sautes, New York astrology, I think it comes right up if you put NC GR in the can get the link actually if we won't not in the show nights. Sure. Yes. It's just search for the New York NC jar chapter in you'll be able to find out more information about it. Okay. Cool. So you'll be there. We're going to all be at Norwalk QNA everybody be sure to send us questions. Good questions. Think of the best question you could possibly ask us that would make for a good discussion topic about a strategy or something related to astrology, and we will answer some of the best ones we get that's going to be a lot of fun. I'm actually looking forward to seeing both of you. I've been hanging out with friends here from the tastes. Yeah. Will hanging out with Kenneth. And Sam Reynolds this week reminded me of what it's like to be at a conference in like having the new studio and being able to have conversations here in person has reminded me of what it's actually. Like hanging out with strangers in person, and like talking and getting into crazy conversations. So that's gonna be really fun week than I'm looking forward to. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see each other in person probably before we talk on line again, unless we pray. I'm not sure what James scheduling June. But we'll see each other yelling three and a half weeks. Yeah. Right. Cool guys while I'm really excited. I'm looking forward to everything is there anything else we need to mention really quickly before you wrap up. You got anything? Austin? You've mentioned quick reminder talk on the jubilee Saturn cycle online on may fifth tickets for as above twenty nineteen Portland event with me and Gordon weighed on September fourteenth eighty five percent sold out only been up for a little over a week. If you're gonna come you gotta get in now and the sphere and sundry Venus exultation series that elected goes live on may second. And come see us. Norway, actually, not it's available. So we'll see all. Oh, yes. Norwick is sold out Laura. The organizer did tell me that there is a waiting list. So if anybody's really wanting to get into nor wack there's some off chance that you might be able to get a ticket. If you go to the Norwalk northwest astrology conference website, which I think is like Norac dot net or something like that you can find Laura's Email address, and she said just to Email her to be put on the waiting list in case, some tickets free up because sometimes people cancel at the last minute. And then there's extra tickets floating around. So otherwise, we look forward to seek everybody at Norwalk here in a few weeks. And yeah, I guess that's it for this episode. Yeah. We'll see them at the live podcast episode right wedding. Yeah. That's going to be so much fun. And Cam white Cameron whites going to be there. He's going to help us set up last time. We were there. We got lucky in your husband was there. Kelly and helix saved us in setting out at the last night tiny helped out to. Yeah. Cam is amazing daren't let hey NY behind the Bob because we will have everyone in a very merry mood. Yeah. That's what I heard. And I think Cam also gonna try to DJ, and he's gonna try to do the dance party nor wack there's going to be so many new people that are having their first conferences, do you guys have any any advice for astrologers at their first conference? I would say get into the bookstore early. Because like there's going to be a huge amazing bookstore with thousands of strategy books in lots of titles you've never seen. But sometimes like if you hit the bookstore early, you can get some some of the best ones right at the top before they sell out. I would say pace yourself, and sometimes the great conversations that happen between the lectures in the hallways. So make a little bit of room for that. If you can. Crew up. You know, if you get a having a few conference buddies is a lot of fun. You can go around do stuff together and see lectures together, and you know, you know, squad or crew up you'll enjoy it. Yeah. And try to make the effort Kelly you, and I met actually and every everything that's happened in our friendship over the past decade happened because you came up to me at nor wack in New Orleans and in two thousand twelve and just started chatting me up you act. Yeah. So that's actually my best piece of advice. Anybody going to the conference is make the effort to reach out to other people or if you see somebody, but seems like they're not connecting with other people that go up to them and introduce yourself, and that sort of networking is really important at conferences. And I hope everybody does that. Because that's part of what helps to ensure that everybody has a good time is just like meeting other astrologers, and it may be more or less difficult for different people. So try to make make the effort, and sometimes if you do it can lead to crazy things like, you know, Austin Kellyanne I do in this conference now or doing this podcast now for years. Yeah. And then to my vice like, you know, if you've got a couple of people year hanging out with. And you see somebody loan lay like Brigham along. You know? Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, and that's a really good point that everything that we do together. Now is because we met at a conference. Austin you and I met 'cause I invited you out to the first prototype. Psych home just having exchanged a few messages with you on my space back in the day. Yeah. So everybody try to do that trying to make an effort. And hopefully specially for the podcast listeners were hoping that can be a good event at the start of the conference to introduce other people that listen to the podcast and right off the bat. You know, that you have something that you share in common. So that's looking forward to all right guys. That's it for this episode of the straw podcast. Thanks, everybody for listening. Thanks to our audience. We had like thirty or forty people in here for the live recording of this. We push it. All your comments surf we couldn't get to all of them as trying to keep track as we go. But yeah, thanks for joining us for that. Thanks to the patrons. Who support the podcast and who have supported us through two hundred episodes? I did the two hundred up Assode this month. I am now moved into the new studio, and we are starting to do in person interviews, those should be more of that in the future. Are so thanks for listening. And we'll see next time. I everyone.
Demetra George on Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice
"Dan. Hi, my name is Chris Brennan. And you're listening to the astrology podcast. This episode was recorded on Friday, November ninth two thousand eighteen starting at one thirty three PM in Denver, Colorado. And this is the hundred eightieth episode of the show for more information about how to subscribe to the podcast and help support the production of future episodes by becoming a patron pleases. The astrology podcast dot com slash subscribe. In this episode. I'm going to be talking with Dimitri, George about her new book, titled ancient astrology in theory and practice a manual of traditional techniques height. Dimitri, thanks for joining me today. Chris. Chris pay. So I'm really excited about this. We are literally on the cusp of the release of your book, finally, which I believe is going to come out sometime in the next twenty four hours. Right. Yes. That's my understanding. Okay. And I've already got a proof copy. We've been reading through in like proofing over the course of the past month. And it's a really amazing books. I'm actually really excited actually really excited as talk to on this today. So first congratulations on the release the book. And this is something you've been working on for quite a while. Right, right. It has been a long time. I think really it's been twenty years in the making. And then it's probably the actual I think for each chapter since then there must be thirteen or fourteen versions of each chapter. So it's been a process, right? And it turned. Out to be a pretty big book where you guys ended up actually breaking it up into two volumes. So that this is actually it's it's almost six hundred pages. But this is just part one of two volumes. Right, right. That's correct. And as I was writing it on one hand mine tension when I started was to have it be short and simple concise in a workbook it just still with the fundamental principles. But as I started writing more and more details kept coming out. And then I go back and tried to delete and rewrite passages in pages in sections only to find out that the material kept showing up as I went on. So the certain point I surrender to the fact that it wasn't going to be stripped down distillation of the material. But that I was going to include this much of the richness of the tradition as was Juanita. To come through. And at that point intil it began to be typeset. I really didn't know how long it was going to be because a certain part of it is full of workbook exercises. Right. So that's actually really important the ties back into your earlier career where your second book was actually a workbook. It was a very well regarded in it's still very popular intro book to modernise strategy, which also had that workbook format as well. Right. Exactly. And I remember of doing the beginnings of the very start of my strategy teaching career and find trying to create a structures to train people's thinking about how to combine the elements of planet. Sign health aspect and. That is proved to be a tremendously popular book that is held through the ages. Teachers have said that. They either use it as taxed or if they recommend it than people who are working with it progress much faster because the certain form for how they construct the Estra logical statements becomes embedded in their thinking Ryan. And then the title of that book is strategy for yourself a workbook for personal transformation. It's how to learn the strategy by working on your own chart, and to a certain extent. This is a continuation of that process where each one of the sixty chapters and the workbook exercise there are two worked out examples for the reader to follow. And then there precise instructions given for repeating the process of their time with your own chart, and this is something that. I've been developing since for the Hellenistic astrology since I began teaching it Keppler college him two thousand one who offered the first course in Helena, stick. But in the years of taking private students since then I've had them go through these exercises. And I found that to the extent that the student does them in order and. Is conscientious in the process, the concepts that seem initially overwhelming or complex become second nature quite quickly. Right. Because you're you're literally one of the first people in modern times to start teaching inch int- Greco Roman astrology to modern astrologers. And so you actually went through the process of figuring out what what works, and what doesn't in order to make this material easier for people to grasp exactly and the process them asking the reader to go through I've taken several hundred people through that process. So I have confidence that it works based upon my experience. Right. And and so I had the pleasure of writing the honor of writing the forward to the book, and I told a little anecdote about actually taking your course on Hellenistic astrology Kepler, and how there was actually like a miscommunication. And I only God. The the source book, which was a collection of translations of excerpts from the Hellenistic astrologers that had been prepared by Robert Schmidt of product hindsight. And I didn't initially for the first few weeks of my study get the response to be a set of notes comprehensive set of notes, which is actually what this book eventually turned into any end. So I struggled actually for the first few weeks of learning Helen is distraught. Because I was just reading the texts without context, and it's actually stream Lee difficult to just pick up a book on ancient astrology and start reading it and understand everything the authors saying because ancient astrologists so different for modern astrology, but then eventually few weeks into the course, we realized what had happened in new sent me your notes, and suddenly everything became much easier and much more understandable because you're such a good person it knowing how to break down these complex concepts and make them understandable to modern people. And that's really what this book is about. I think is what right. Yes, that's exactly the process. And now this most recent fall again the third five day Hellenistic astrology retreat. The first one I took the groups through. Basically the contents of this book in five days, we met eight hours a day. And I remember the first day people's mouths just sort of dropped open. Like you want us to do what? And I said stay with it like, you know, trust me and by the fifth day, they're all flying through the concepts in the material and just mazed at how much they understood the nuances of how many different factors involved in understanding how it is a planet operates. And that's the essence of all him one. It's called assessing planetary condition and for each planet with subjected to thirty or forty different criteria that based on sect and the sign that's in power has in various signs its relationship to the sun to the aspects. In each factor. Yields more information about how effective Lee the planet can bring forth things that represents in. It's trying to do in ways. They're most beneficial for the individual. So then in many astrology interpretation books, it psych one signed fits all Marsden. Let's say Gemini or the third house has one stock interpretation of two paragraphs and through the richness of the inch int- tradition. We find how many more factors were involved in understanding the multi varied ways in which planet brings about the matters. It's trying to right. And so it's like an from a modern perspective. It's it's not usually giving value judgments or that. There can be better worse. Placements just giving almost like a logical interpretations. But in this approach, you're actually trying to determine the condition of the planet and the chart to see how well it's able to do its job, and then that has both psychological as well as sometimes literal manifestations in the person's life. Exactly, one of the simple examples. I use is that you may have to individuals who both want to say start their own business. They're both intelligent. They're both competent. They're both worthy. And one is able to do so easily in another one no matter how hard they try a struggle with bringing forth less results for greater from greater effort. And it's in the understanding of planetary condition that it he luminated to the reader why things are easier for some people than for others and whether the paticularly. Strengths and weaknesses an individual needs to factor into their approach to bringing about their Jek this where are they most vulnerable? And how is it that that can be seen in the chart? Right. And instead of somehow that being disempowering the fear. I think that modern astrologers sometimes have about that approach. Instead, sometimes it can be more validating about what a personal ready does know and understand about their life and some ways exactly it's yeah. I'm not that take home is that it isn't that I'm a bad person or an incompetent person. But this is something I never realized that was a blind spot and how I functioned and now I have the insight to be able to recognize that. And then within that being able to do at one can both mitigate it or to be able to accept in four. Sure. So. And you get into a lot of different types of conditions in terms of planetary condition. I mean, one of the things I really appreciate it in this book where we knew we knew for a long time. They've been working on in that would come out, and it compliments my book, very well. But one of the things I'm almost jealous about is that you do give a little historical overview in the beginning, but it's relatively concise compared to like the two hundred pages spent I part of my book, and then you just jump right into the techniques. So this is very much a technique oriented book, and you're able to go much further into some specific techniques than I did because you don't spend all that time sort of worrying about the history, but you just sort of give this very nice overview of the history of the past two thousand years or more like four thousand years of the practice of the strategy in the you get right to add we use today. Exactly. And I had spent many years putting together history philosophy of ancient astrology when Taty Kepler college. And then as we were both getting serious about writing our books. There is a point in which I was very happy to let you do history. The philosophy some of the conceptual issues right on because I already done that. So I didn't need to do it over again. But I wanted to see all the places that you're going to take this material to and then that set of relieve knee, if the responsibility of tending to that part because I knew that it would already. Be done, and it would be done in a wonderful way. So right because I'm up. Yes. We work together. Instead of sorting out how we were going to have our books complement each other. Right. And so one of the nice things about that than is that you're able to go into some techniques that I either only mentioned in passing or couldn't deal with at all. So one of the things that you're able to address for example, that I was excited about is spear bearing you actually address that concept in in this book. Yes. Many astrologers by now have heard us use the word maltreatment of specialize ways in which planets or the functions that they represent can be severely impaired or damage making it difficult to bring forth the most positive things that those planets represent but in the source tax either right before the treatment of maltreatment or right after on both antichrist's impor- free talk about spear bearers, and these are actually bodyguards and these are ways in which planetary patterns can offer protection, which is the corollary to the patterns that cause danger damage. And the notion of speier's, especially as we saw the taxes that was often used to indicate a person who is very eminent. And if we think of queens, queens or important political figures, they all have entourage of bodyguards that accompany them. And this was the notion of spear bearers for the in the Incheon, Texan laying out the ways that you can see the way in which certain parts of the chart are not only protected, but they signify a person who is has the eminence that warrants protected row. I love that. So it's like a celebrity that has a bodyguard or like, the president has the secret service exact ends out physically in front and behind him in the actual structural concept. One of the definitions one of the versions of. Spear bearing having planets either in conjunction on both sides directly in front or directly behind protecting one of the luminaries. Exactly. Okay. So yeah. New spend quite a bit of time going into that. There's three different Vert variants or versions of spear bearing, and then you give worksheets for how to calculate it in a person's chart. Right. And this is really one of the most complex of yet. Preliminary topics in the agent material there is some variation among the authors. There are some tax their complete and what I've done is. Worked with each of the authors, take it as far as I could given the material that is presented and then create worksheets. And in some cases, it's easy for people to figure out if they're spear bodyguards in their charter and other people's charts. In other cases, you get to a certain points in. You're not sure how to read it. And if you go back to the techs techs themselves are inconclusive. So I think this was a concept that a number of Incheon strategies struggled with and as time went on each one try to ensure reinterpreted material Cording to their own understanding. So I hope that it might chapter on that both conveyed the tradition, and then laid out a format that people could follow. With the view that there are certain pieces of this doctrine that are inconclusive right? Yeah. And part of the background behind that is back in two thousand ten you actually set out you completed translating or you did translations of all of the relevant texts of all of the different definitions of varying maltreatment all of the different definitions of types of aspect auctions at the helm mystic astrologers had. And then you actually asked me, and Ben dykes if we wanted to get get together week on the coast of Oregon in order to put all these different definitions together, and then reconstruct what we thought the original definitions of things like spear bearing and maltreatment and other things were and over the course of the week we had this really amazing collaboration. And at the end of it. We did have what we felt like it was a pretty solid reconstruction of most of right that was glorious week. Like one of the high points is reflect back upon my life. That were there not oceanfront condo on the Pacific coast. And we had brought our lexicon in dictionaries in, you know, manuscripts in texts and translations in went through sometimes from you early in the morning until the wee hours of the night, totally immersed in. This conversation punctuated by walks on the beach looking at the way, the Tide's coming in now that was like for the whole concept of the scholar in tower that was really one of the more glorious weeks my life. Yeah. Definitely. I'm really glad that we did that. And then pieces of that reconstruction came up with that week of come out in different places. I know Ben included a little bit. I think it was in his introductions introduction to the strategy. Yeah. Was that? It was. Yeah. Can't remember if it was it was. Astrology traditional astrology for today. But it was his other one it was titled. I think it was headed like introduction. Astrology Abu Machar L could. So he was trying to introduce a lot of the medieval definitions of basic concepts in aspect often and things like that. But in order to do so he also introduced and talked about some of the Hellenistic precursors, which are the ones that we tried to reconstruct. So that came out I think in two thousand ten two thousand eleven and then in my book, I enter -duced large parts of my understanding that in a few chapters, especially surrounding the modification maltreatment techniques. And now in this book ev- introduced basically all of the rest of it. And you're understanding of all that is one. So and what was interesting though. And one of the things will be interesting for students of ancient and traditional strategy to look at is sometimes there is still points of uncertainty or disagreements about certain aspects of some of the definitions though in different ways that. You could interpret certain sentences that would have vastly different meanings from from a practical standpoint, especially with the definition of maltreatment. Right. Yes. There was so at least in one instance, both you and I settled on different interpretations based on our reading the text. And sometimes I say, you know, it all depends on where you think the commish ship in placed, right? It's literally something like that. Like, the grammar of the sentence completely than hiree to completely changes. How you would apply to charts do mind if we read that definition of treatment really quickly or the okay? So so here's your translation. It says concerning injury. It's called maltreatment whenever some star is struck with a Ray or is struck with the Ray by malefic or it is enclosed. Or if it is in a connection soon affay with destructive star or an adherence in rackets colossus, or if it is opposed or overcome or ruled by an evil doer, which is badly situated end when it it self declines in the ineffective places and that's from poor freeze introduction from the third or fourth century. So what are I mean? Maybe we should go through the list in terms of some of those like really quickly. So this is a definition of maltreatment. So this is supposed to be the most extreme versions of what modern astrologers sometimes call it flick Shen, except in modern astrology that's more like a generic term that. Includes other factors as well. Right. Whereas this is more like a specific set of conditions of extreme like worse case scenario for a planet. Right relatively let let not so frequent. It's. Not uncommon for charts not to have any Mel treatment conditions. And so when you see them it's sort of red flag to pay attention that there's a problem here. Right. And then you also in other chapters talk about a corresponding set of positive conditions that can indicate very good things about upon its condition. Okay. So some of the different ones here that are relatively straightforward or things like being overcome by malefic is a condition of maltreatment, according to this text. Well, I think this is the point which we differ. Okay. Right. Right. Exa- misses the point where it's not so straightforward. So the difference of interpretation is that very last sentence where it says in when it itself declines in the ineffective places, you you've take you take that to apply grammatically to the. Bertie of the rest of the done. No or. The part where it says by an evil doer, which is badly situated ES. That's the he. So then there's a series of conditions than there is an end. And then they list three that the planet is overcome or opposed or in the domicile of Melik expansively situated and so badly situated or in disadvantage places refers to the health location of Melik planet, and if that planet is in houses whose topics or problematical topics such as the six houses illness, the eighth house of death or the twelfth house of suffering and other kinds of grave difficulties. The because those are the topics of the. Planet in that house has to use in order to bring forth, whether it represents when a planet is in one of those difficult houses, and overcoming has the superior square to planet or poses a planet by whole sign or is the domicile Lord. That's what brings that more graver level of difficulty to the experiences of the individual. It's not simply being opposed by Mars or Saturn or having the superior swear. But that Mars and Saturn is in house sector of the chart who's topics through which expresses that they themselves are the most difficult topics of life. So it's double condition almost Sunday. That's my rationale for why I have included at the Melik the difficult planet is well as making that superior square opposition. Right. So that's that's Turpin the taken reading the text that it's not just that it is over come or oppose ruled by malefic, but the malefic itself also has to be in one of the difficult houses specially the the sixth of the twelve or even the eighth because I think that the very last piece there's a. Comma, and then the last place he says or. An end this has been something that, you know, all of us, including Schmidt has gone back and forth with it seems almost as if a if a planet is simply in the six to twelve house that also is enough to create a situation of distress for the planet Reich, the final clause, and when it self lines in the ineffective places, and so I've interpret that as a whole seventh condition just unto itself that Louis of a malefic planet ruling another planet, and then the malefic being badly situated in the six twelve house, which is a condition known as counteraction. So that's like a second interpretation. Then Schmidt has a whole separate intermission. Which is that it's just a planet placed in one of the bad houses, especially the six twelve. So that means between the three of us. We have three. Entirely different interpretations of this one passage depending on how you read the grammar right that our audience that may seem very confusing or weird their comments the case. But in terms of reading Greek it's not unusual. The ancients often said that the Greeks were liars, and that was because the syntax of their language could be could be interpreted in so many different ways. So someone could seemingly giving you a compliment. But really for those who like could read underneath it. You could see it with an insult. And when I was in the years after I graduated from the of oh, I participated in a reading group that some graduate students in professors were Annan, we would re different tax, and they could spend. In our discussing one-sentence in the text reading with each person offering their own interpretation of that sentence. And that often became the substance of our reading group with seen the variety of ways that each reader couldn't terp Britt said one particular sentence. So the fact that we've all landed in that position over the mall treatment, finishes, not unusual in the larger context of people reading understanding H E Greek right because it also involves comparing there was three different texts that survive that preserve that definition and all of them are slightly different. It's not even just reading one text and coming to different conclusions. It's attempting to reconcile three different versions of the same definition and figure out what the original one was in. That was a project that orig- originally was undertaken by Robert Schmidt. In his two thousand nine book definitions foundations where he tried to reconstruct. The original text underlying all these these three different variations, but then we got together in two thousand ten to see if we could validate that and if we agreed with the reconstruction, or if we came to our own, and we ended up coming to different conclusions largely for reasons like this, exactly. So in this represents basically, the publication of all of your conclusions all of the work that you did including what I love about this in what's going to be the most valuable as you did your own independent translations from the Greek for every astrological passage that you translated in this book, right? Okay. I mean, that's a pretty big deal. That took you a lot of time to to do. Right. And it was a. When we were so confused over the all of the as understanding the aspect Trajan at a certain point, I realized that I was never going to really get it less. I sat down did my on translations, and that sort of opened up the areas where I saw how different translators interpreters single word. And that's what really help you get into deeper layers in your sanding, the material. Right. Just because there's so many different ways than that. You can practice a strategy and establish the doctrines depending on how you interpret the texts, and you wouldn't think sometimes that they could be that wildly different. But this is this a really good example of how that can have like major practical implications exactly for anyone who's ever. Let's say read the Greek tragedy place. There are many different translations. Relations the same play. And if you pick them up, you can see how much they vary. And if you happen to be looking at the Greek is, well, sometimes you look at someone's translation, you go on my goodness. Like, how could they get? These English words. These Greek words, like it's nicks, no sense at all what they've done with it. But someone just picking up any all translation wouldn't realize what great variation that can be based upon the knowledge in the bias of the translator. Sure. So there's a little bit of that in here in terms of presenting the translations than the explaining what they mean. But you're also just focused on trying to show people what they would do with this material, you know, taken this interpretation of the different tax. And this is how you apply it. And then throughout the book, you focus on a recurring application of the techniques to specific example. Charts? Right. I've been working with a charter Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis for number of years. And so I worked three each principal at present. I work with interpretation through with her chart, and then I'm I do it with a second chart, which is that of Pablo Picasso. And I was looking for a man that everyone knew that had night chart instead of a day chart in the Serb point. That's what I landed upon. So then there's two fully worked out examples of the students can read than the instruction start again from the beginning. Now, take the process do it with your own chart. And I remember one moment in the retreat that we did the afternoon sessions people were together in small groups, and there is one student that went. Which do and then the personnel groups had ways second. Let's just go to instruction number one. Let's just read that see what it says put him a box what she tells us to now go to instruction number to follow that. And then by the end of that sequence the students were able to replicate the process, so I tried not to make any previous assumptions of what you should know or what you may have forgotten. But there is a tremendous amount of repetition in the book on I think, that's probably what takes up some of all of the pages. But in my work of being a teacher, I understand that many people need to if it's a new concept they need to hear it repeated over a number of different times before it finally sinks in. Him with that repetition comes mastery of the understanding, right? Right. Yeah. And that's a lot of what the book focuses on is just forcing you at the end of the instructional chapters to then write this out in chart because sometimes it's only by doing so that you truly start under stand and the knowledge starts to sink in. Exactly. And you also see what you didn't understand in fact than you're forced to go back in re look at that material until you clarify and insult regressive. It would be quite challenging not knowing any traditional strategies just jump in start the aspect chapter because each chapter Bill upon the previous one riot at one of the things you did that I was surprised that that's really nice as you do in some places like summaries redo short paragraphs or to sentence to summarize the basic principles in almost takes on the form of a traditional list of aphorisms, basically of dislike the key points of this section of the book. Yes. And that's also part. Visit okay. These are the main points that you should have gotten any on some of those medieval books, we have is the aphorisms. But we don't have the explanation of a you got to that conclusion. And what I tried to do in the main Texas. This is why we've come to this final conclusion about this factor this doctrine, right? So another major component of the book that you spend a lot of time talking about as the solar phase cycle and the importance of some of these concepts, which has the effect of sort of reconnecting astrologers with the astronomy, at least in part, and realizing that there's a lot to the phase relationship that each of the planets has with the son that has a lot of really important interpretive meaning and sometimes it's really small or seemingly minor things. But those minor things can add up to have a big overall effect in terms of the overall interpretation of planets. Edition chart. Right. And so it was. Heart of how I start out this this larger Kuzma legiti that the ancient philosophers had that was incorporated by the strategies, and it starts from the principle of unity into the divine quality of the stars. And the planets is slightly less divine the fixed stars, and they have these nested orbits and their first relationship is to a son into the moon as the celestial king Queen of the heavens, and then to one another, but in that is the planet's relationship to the sun in terms of their cycles and the ancient astrologers saw that planets speed it's visibility. And that it's a moments when the appeared in disappeared. According to its phases or it stations, turning retrograded direct were very key moments. There were visual phenomena had great interpretive meaning. And so it's through a thorough understanding of that cycle for the planet has one conjunction with the son to the next time. It can junks the son that all of these factors. Whether it's going fast to slow director injury act. It's appearing after having been hidden. It's disappearing for a period of time. There are many subtleties of interpretation that come in with each of those moments. And so I've tried not to only say oh planet is within fifteen degrees of the sun. It's weakens but understand that within the entire cycle of its relationship to the sun. And with that astronaut, Michael. A model to work off of then the final interpretive conclusions begin to make sense because you see the rush now that his informed those conclusions. And that was the beauty of Hellenistic astrology, the beginning was as modern astrologers. We learned many things, but we didn't know why in the Hellenistic began to reveal the underlying structure that informs the delineation of the chart. Right. It seems like the longer longer the tradition. Went on the Moriches became lists of rules and understands about when you see a placement in a diagram a chart. This is what it means. Or, you know x equals, y but if you take it far as far back into the tradition as you can you start to get back to this layer where they're focused more on looking at actual observational astronomy. And then interpreting the movements and the positions of the planets symbolic. Is having symbolic import in the person's life. And when you do that it gets you get connected to this much deeper sort of level of strategy. It seems like. So with the slur face cycle. That includes a lot of things like the speed of the planet the direction that the planet is moving along the zodiac, either direct or retrograde, it includes visibility conditions like being able to see the planet in the sky, or whether the the planet is hidden by being too close to the sons, the sun's light overwhelms, and and there's like a few other conditions that general area. So yeah, I mean, that's one piece of things in terms of the visibility and interpreting astronomical movements in a symbolic way. And then there's also that separate part of Hellenistic astrology, which seems like it's more directly symbolic or more based on sort of abstract on systems or or things like that. Like, I'm trying to find a way to describe something like the planetary joys of the Fima Mundy and the aspect auction and other things like that where it's more like a, you know, rubbish would always call a theoretical construct of some sort where somebody's put something together that almost has an artificial ring to it. But it's not artifice in a bad sense. But instead, it's more artificial in a way that's deliberate and thought out where the concepts are interlocking in some way, there's a very elegant substructure. It's often geometric. Legal sets Jerko underlies the relationships that we accord planets with certain signs and signs with one another and even the aspects on conforming to the nature of the planets. Simple model, but it ties together all of these pieces into an elegant explanation run. That's part of the the beauty in the excitement of the traditional strategy. Yes. Seeing that. There was something there that was deliberate and something that was co sometimes when modern astrologers is when we learn like, different pieces of traditional strategy just seems very arbitrary. And like, there doesn't seem to be any ruler reason underlying it it's just like here's a set of rules than this is how you interpreted, and that's it. But then suddenly go back to the Hellenistic tradition. You see many of these rules are part of an over locking overarching structure, MS underlying the entire system in some way, initially, you know, I thought I wanted to make it simple in simply having here the rules in. Here's how you do it. But then I quickly realized that I was simply unable to do. That that I had to sort of explain specify could the underlying structure informed of the principles doctrines. So that why both of our books like got to be so big. Unable to restrain ourselves, providing those explanations as we could we have to polish is to like future translators. Another apple transmitting the the books or just carrying them for that matter. So was that the thing though, that got you interested finally because there was a period where one of the things that's interesting. That's mentioned in the book. I try to mention in my preface is that you were actually the very first subscriber to the project hindsight translation series through this weird set of circumstances. And you got some of the translations, and you also attended some of their seminars conclaves in the mid nineties, but it wasn't until after that around two thousand two thousand one that you really got deeply interested in Hellenistic astrology and went out there to study it and started studying the text more closely. What was it that changed at that point compared to the mid nineties that really got you interest? Fid in it as a modern astrologer well in the mid nineties when I got interested in it as a modern astrologer was like the new big thing in town. So to speak that, you know, rob hands was who's a great spokesperson for whatever he believes in was a supporting throughout the community. But as I do a little bio in the book of how I got to Helena, stick astrology. That was also connected with a a regression that I have that. So the focus my attention. But just as when you I looked at the Hellenistic course techs, and you couldn't understand what they were saying that was my reaction in the mid nineties like I was getting the translations, but they could still been Greek for all we knew what they meant. Now, remember going to some initial lectures that both. Schmidt and rub Handra given. Understand a word that you've said, I've no idea what you're talking about. And that's where I was let's say by nineteen ninety six ninety seven three or so years after the first translations began to emerge amend. That's when I went back to graduate school. And it that decision wasn't really about learning the Hellenistic material. It was just about continuing my ongoing love of learning in the able to further my education, and I went into classics because it might mythological interests. And then like once I got into the program is will you have to learn Greek and Latin because that's what we do here at site. Whatever my gym, which is hold holler. Yeah. My Gemini moon, just like loves learning. Anything new just for the adventure in the sake of learning. But that's literally one of the hardest things you could possibly do in grad school is try to go back and study ancient Greek and Latin, but it was done initially just the motivation of you know, that your background was in mythology, and that was a major component in your Astra logical career. And so you thought that would be the best access point. You know in in grad school was learning ancient Greek and Latin but that turned out to be both incredibly difficult, but then accidentally very useful later on when you did get more interested in ancient astrology. During those years nineteen ninety seven to two thousand. I put my life as miss stroller on hold because I couldn't do graduate school and continue to travel to conferences and prepare new lectures and to see clients and my life existed between my study chair the bus stop in campus for three years, then again, as I was ready to graduate Keppler college received its authorisation, and I was asked to teach the first year history program because I have the right to gre- of the right time that the state board required for authorising there. Instructors teachers, so then I was totally immersed in putting together the history of ancient astrology. So I was aware that project hindsight was still continuing to. Have event sit their home in Maryland. But my life was so overwhelmed with this other thing, I was doing that. There is no way that could really follow that participate in it. And then it was at the and of Kepler's first year where I taught the history of ancient native astrology that our students attended nor wack where project hindsight had a table and booth and Ellen y was talking about the techniques of interpretation with Helen's strategy in our students said sme-. What is this about like, what are all these techniques realized? Yeah, what are all his techniques you've been learning history for a year? There's a whole body of practical information that goes with that that. That in terms of keeping with integrity that program that you should also be exposed to 'em n a month later. Bobbitt hindsight was given giving an intensive weeklong intensive and I realized that had to go there instead of catch up to speed on what they had done during the past four years why in totally immersed in graduate schooling Kepler's first year program. And that was the moment when not only did I connect with the potency of the techniques. But because I had had enough as the Greek I was able to hear those teachings in the way that I have possibly understood for five years earlier. So that's what happens at that moment. I saw how important Mateen's were. I went back to Kepler. I was able to arrange to have that module included Keppler career. Limb. And then I returned to Maryland to Virginia for a number of months where a put together that for course, under the instruction of Ellen white, Robert Schnitt, right? And you wrote a lot of notes, it was just probably I don't know two hundred pages may be of like a course manual of commentary, instructional manual that would go with some of the translations. And then those course notes you've continued to expand as you teach private students over the course of the past decade and a half. And now, that's what this is an can actually recognize some of the sections of it where I remember it from all those years ago for more than ten years ago. Now reading it in the Keppler course, and that's the I I started doing the workbook application there because I was still connected with the astrology for yourself model. So. Right. And you were probably doing that for some some of yourself in learning material trying to system is understand each of the concept. All right. Yes. So that's really important. I'm trying to think I mean. One of the issues that we could go into is one of the things that's interesting about the book, actually notable is. I thought before I read this that it was just gonna be about Helena to strategy, which is, you know, basically Greco Roman astrology from the first century BC roughly to the seventh century, but you actually incorporated some later medieval authors into your treatment as well. Because you've been studying them over the course of the past decade. In addition to some of the Greek texts. In I tried as much as possible to. Have footnotes from the ancient texts themselves about where these doctrines came from who said it or to have it. Go back to. Where we could trace it to and in that search for primary source documentation it inevitably led me into looking at some of the material of the Arabic medieval authors, and thanks to all have been dykes translations. I had all that material right at my bookshelf. So it was quite impossible. Not to see how the tradition continued into the medieval and renaissance period and in volume two, which will be. Mostly about the houses, though, I'm treating some other. He says on the rulers in titties. Well. That interest in how the tradition developed over. The course of two thousand years is especially evident where I look at the signification of the houses and find what it Hellenistic author said about each house amid a Arabic medieval authors in number of renaissance authors in the early modern authors to be able to see what pieces of the doctrine survived remained, constant what elements of the houses were added in at certain times in why what pieces dropped out in perhaps speculate as to why. And then be able to do that analysis of our understanding the houses for meantime, the tradition. So something that started off in the beginning. Well, did Benatti heavenly thing to say about sex because. Wait heard those words medieval words, planet being Hayes. Let's say that secretary conditions those concept that we didn't see in Helena sick. And then as I started again, the gem part of myself can't contain. Refrain actually is the word from gathering, more and more information. Like what it sounds so say where do they get at Froman? Like just kept moving me. Forward addition. So you see more and more. That is the book goes on right? Yeah. I appreciate that. I think other traditional structures will appreciate that. 'cause it sets it up as more something that's useful for for everybody. Not necessarily just one tradition. Even if it's very much rooted in the Hellenistic tradition, primarily kind of raises an interesting thing I've been thinking about a lot lately, which is because traditional strategy was dug up on one hand because it was partially because it was dug up in different eras where I there was a revival of renaissance astrology in the nineteen eighties because the text of William Lilley was rediscovered. And because it was the earliest text written in English. You could still read it without any language skills. So there. Was like a rebirth rediscovery of renaissance astrology I and there was much excitement surrounding that. And then at some point there was also probably after that a revival of medieval astrology through the work of people like Robert Zolder, and he was working on lot Latin texts basically, like we'd Benatti and other authors like that. And then eventually there is a revival. Especially more recently of the Hellenistic texts and excitement surrounding the Greek tax that were written around the first century or give or take a few centuries. But there's different people depending on which tradition oftentimes they started with that will tend to prefer that tradition. And there's this different sort of almost like fundamentalism that sometimes develops out of each tradition, depending on what the person's preferences were there can be like versions of the Hellenistic fundamentalism of saying the original system was the best and everything else was a de-evolution. There's a Midi. Fundamentalism? We've we've seen some times which is like the Hellenistic astrology was okay. But it really got at its best during the medieval tradition, and then it declined to the renaissance, and then there's like a renaissance fundamentalism where they say the earlier traditions were. Okay. But it really reached its peak in the renaissance and then declined after that. How do you? You don't seem to oftentimes go down that route. And what do you recommend or how do you do recommend voiding that is that? Okay. That impulse. Have you ever had that impulse yourself or how do you perceive it when you see it in sometimes other practitioners? Cynical points. If you. I understand that wherever astrologer his invested their ego in being right about the kinds of strategy. They do and correspondingly their income is dependent upon their thority in maintaining the authority. I understand why many astrologers are so. Rooted in various strategies, the best in the most correct? But if we take a larger sweep of understanding we see that astrology has. Made its way around the world almost since the beginning of its development, and that each culture his receives the teachings has an order to fully integrate them into being applicable to their own experiences. His made certain insights adaptations that brought it in line with their primary beliefs. However to the extent that. We consider that astrology is. I hesitate to or the us use the word a language of truth. But the language is can reveal the truth of the situation of the condition fate or karma of a person's life in their purpose. Then that truth can be communicated in many different languages, and that we have to be careful not to fall into the trap fit. The only true word is something that happens in our own language that only we ourselves can understand. And so that gives us that sit of openness to. Respecting the variety of different traditions that emerge from this one fundamental understanding. And that what I've tried to do in this book. Is. The notion of planetary condition is something that remains uniform from the earliest times through the renaissance this idea that based on a planet. Sign in house relationships in the sun in aspects its ability to perform it's function was easier harder for the individual that that's constant in all of these different traditions. And by speaking to how a certain doctrine developed in was re understood my hope is that the book can. Cut through those barriers of differences between one traditional another astrologists. Have always disagreed even the Hellenistic ticks, you see valances this person said that mad person said whatever. But this is why I think that this variant of opinion his been continuous Civis use Houston pretending that hasn't been. But in being able to present the multiplicity and yet from the multiplicity to be able to isolate the things that are continuous in constant is what I tried to do. So that hopefully students of medieval renaissance astrology can read this book benefit from the understanding the principles without it causing them to totally reject a tradition that they are connected with for whatever the reasons not know did that make sense. Definitely I think you'll call. Clich that because you trace that thread later in tradition. In addition to talking about the foundation, I think that's going to have the effect of showing the overlaps more clearly and showing where some of those later things that just became rules or aphorisms originally came from and what the the original conceptual and philosophical rationale was originally. Yeah, it it comes up sometimes in funny ways because so much of the tradition became about the textual tradition, and what text retransmitted what text were what thority is giving the certain being given to certain texts in different eras versus in other eras. What texts are being given more authority. We came up with this at one point when you're writing your book, and in the editing phase of the question of was Claudius Ptolemy, a practicing astrologer and some of the debate surrounding that, and then the subsequent questions about how much authority to give his taxed based on. What your answer to that question is? And so. There's just some tricky issues come up sometimes in terms of what this things that make question that is all of the other. Helena, six strategists were continually mentioning citing one another. But. Ptolemy is rarely cited by anyone until way later on and that he himself isn't including of their astrologers whose text we have in his book. So that's one reason why book is like different for many of the others. That makes this wonder if some in some ways he was outside of the mainstream of the estrogen tradition of his day and one comparison we might have to that in our time right now that there are a number of academics. Especially in Europe on the continent who working with the history of the strategy. But they have no idea who the foremost Estra logical practitioners of today are and many practicing astrologers have no idea who's academic. Who are far at ease on the academic world are so that there's a big gap that exists between those two groups today, and I imagined that could have also been case in earlier eras. So and then we also know that one of Ptolemies objectives was to reconcile this new astrology with the philosophy of his day. Because he was did have other academic works on optics. Mr. on me in jogger fy in different subjects out there. Polymath wrote major rights and above different. So I'm sure that. In the course of learning a lot about the importance subjects of his day that he did give due attention to astrology and presented it to the best of his abilities in. He was a great mind. He did a lot of good work and what he set down. But that he was a practicing astrologer in the same way that the others were there some question there because no one seems snow about him in. He hasn't seemed to know about anyone else. Right. And he doesn't unlike his contemporaries, it doesn't use an example where somebody like balance you have a bunch of, you know, uses his own shorties as like client charts. He gets an a shipwreck, and he goes rounding everyone on the boat's charts afterwards to see like what happened the cones the shipwreck. We don't see that necessarily. Intolerant. Right. So there's that. But that's not to say this work isn't Representative of the period, and it's not valuable, right? Yeah. I mean that was the question. I got as I've been there was extreme pushback against Ptolemy in in the nineties, especially in the work of people like Jeffrey, Cornelius and James Holden for many of the reasons that you said, but then there could be in the nose. Also, of course, people that place his work on on a pedestal and up until recently, it's always been thought of as like the major work on Incheon astrology that everybody should emulate and was the best example of that. And sometimes in the renaissance, for example, that reached an extreme version where they would just adopt a bunch of Ptolemies techniques that even though in some instances, they were radically different with what the tradition it been for seventeen hundred years up to that point. But all that being said in despite those two extremes. They're still probably reason. To say, we don't necessarily know. And he did write a book on strategy. And while he sometimes would omit or just like knock talk about concepts techniques that he didn't like there were techniques that he did agree with that. He does seem to treat competently and in a way that's not so dissimilar from other strangers that it's just like completely breaking with tradition. It's just that. He's not always like, for example, with law the era bec- parts, he doesn't seem to like those very much. He keeps the lot of fortune because he's able to find a rationale for it that he agrees with because dispenses with with all the rest of them. Right. And there's virtually very little information on the houses. A few lines. Here may are doesn't relate treat signification of houses. Right. It's very sporadic. And he mainly focuses on like Angula ready, but not so much on topics necessarily. Sure said there was there was another part of that question of how do I deal with their astrologers who are fundamentalists in their own tradition? And my sense is not to really disperse my energy by getting involved in those disputes. But by doing the very best work. I can with the material that I'm comfortable with in feel competent in and to let the material speak for itself and to support. That which I want to put my energy into making vailable and not get distracted by trying to dispute with someone else's doing. So I tend to ignore it for the most part. Sure. And you've that's probably been easier because he done work like with Dennis harness Richland Kotite, the Hellenistic course with him where you compared Hellenise astrology in order to both emphasize and showed just by teaching them side by side. How many similarities the were as well as the differences in so exercises? Like that of probably been really fruitful in terms of keeping an open mind and seeing the value of that comparison between the traditions. Exactly what we discover them that Kepler course, was a Helena sick invaded were much more similar than Helena, sickest modern. And then. The second thing was that we would have given question have our students of arrive at a judgment using Helena sick techniques, and then using data techniques. And what was often the case is that they arrived at similar conclusions. But use entirely different systems to be able to get there. And so that also opens up your mind, you can't keep this fixed too. The one and only way. Point of view, right? Yeah. That's amazing. And then more relevant in terms of modern astrologers. It's that you've also continued some of that work in terms of not wanting to just do ancient astrology in of itself. But sometimes now going back and looking for ways to integrate inches garage modern strategy or perhaps synthesize the two. Yes. That's also an I've continued to use the asteroids through this whole time period. And I definitely use the modern planets the outer planets, so it isn't as if I'm only doing ancient astrology. But I'm using the insights that the foundation of our traditions given us as the is the foundation of my understanding than treating asteroids and the outer planets while fully considering them treating them in different ways. And again doing that layering process with it. So that there's my belief is that everything in our solar system in even in our cosmos has meaning every celestial body has some sort of interpretive meaning. And that opens a sept- to the Astros, the trans neptunium planets the fixed stars, and, you know, given the grace that we should live that long being able to integrate black holes in other galaxies into our understanding not that we are still should live that long, but the. Tradition of strategies can continue that far out into the future. So it all has interpretive. Meaning there's nothing that should be rejected. But that the Hellenistic unless you have a strong foundation of your house like you pile up all this other stuff in that's all in topple over. And so the foundation is so beautiful in elegant and clear and strong. It's hard not to give it the respect that it should have. And that was my intention bringing forth this work. Awesome. Any feel like having had a long astrological career prior to getting into engine astrology and continuing to have a long career afterwards that going back and doing this work and getting into this material has enriched your work as a modern astrologer and created a more solid foundation lately and the students that had you know, I've asked them afterwards while how you readings may say oh the readings. So much better than they were before. I feel such more confident in what I say. And understanding why I'm saying having some sort of justification for it. And so both in my I'm still, you know, working strategy. I see in number of clients every week every month for years, and I have totally benefited from the clarity and depth that the ancient cheerio is added to my practice counseling strategy. I mean, when I do reading if someone isn't themselves in advanced astrologer interested in the traditional material, I'm not layering it with all the terminology of Mel treatment sect in you know, all of the other. Jargon that we use? But that that information is for the strategy him or herself to be able to feel confidence. And then saying what they need to to their client with a sensitive purposeful clarity. Yeah. And really giving people a structure for how to go about deline delineating Charton what steps you take. Because that seems like the wall that I see most students of strategy hit at some point like a year or two or maybe a few years into their studies, which is they know a bunch of different things to know what everything should mean. But they don't know how to put it together in order to form a meaningful, synthesis. And that seems like the main thing that this book is really about as how you form a meaningful synthesis by going through the necessary steps in the right order and knowing what to prioritize or what to put a little bit further down that chain of interpretive principles. I remember when I was young strategy after we learned planet signs houses aspects, transits progressions. Okay. Now, you're ready to recharge would go. But like where do we begin? Like, what do we say? I and the word was well each of you have to find your own voice. And then it became a process of I remember, the panic Emma's early days that you look at the chart, you don't know where to begin you just land on some aspects that you remember something that you know, about start talking about it. And so you us whatever it is you have to say on that and the disparately search for something else to start dressing, and I hope that in the process of both volume one in volume to that. There's a clear indefinite pattern and structure for how to protest the interpretation of not only each planet in its full range of meaning according. To its condition, but the various topics of life dissipated by houses. No how will marriage turnout. How health turn out how old shoulder turn out? And and that part too again, that's the interpretation one from the planet's point of view. But then we turn around and do it from the house, topics points of view. So you're considering the questions that people bring to the counseling room from a multi-faceted perspective, and knowing how the pro-trade specifically within each approach brilliant. Are it's k- great. Well, I'm really excited about this. I think the book comes out probably today or tomorrow where we're waiting. I think you're so your publisher is Aaron chic Ribeiro press, which is just amazing. I'm so glad that you guys got together Aaron actually edited my book. And so the fact that he was able to edit and then become the publisher of your book. I was just. Static about because I thought it was a great person for the job. And that's really panned out. He's been brilliant that he has the conceptual understanding to. Realized what I was trying to do and then through his superb editing skills be able to bring it into very accessible language. Presentation visual presentation this. Well. The book has just laid out you to fully like the cover is beautiful. The layout is amazing all the diagrams came out very nicely. There's a nice image of zodiac of dendritic on the cover. And yes, I'm told that the book is it will eventually be available on Amazon, but for the first month or so it's primarily going to be available through the publisher's website, which is Roberto dot press. That's Roberto dot press. So put a link to the website where you can find the book where you can order the book on the description page for this episode on the astrology podcast dot com. I'm sure you'll be you'll be speaking at conferences and doing other promotions for the book over the course of the year. People can also goats might own website Dmitri, George dot com. You can join the mailing lists. And then you'll be getting regular notifications of the book in ordering. I'm how to offer it in. Presentations will be doing over the course of the year in conjunction with it. Brilliant. Alright. And I'm trying to think of anything else. I think that's part two. I'm told will probably be released somewhere in the early part of like quarter to of next year. So hopefully, we can maybe we can come back again to talk about to in a follow up discussion where you'll be dealing with as you said the houses, the master of the Nativity and other topics like that. Well. Thank you for having me. And I'm just so grateful for our friendship and our Esra logical collaboration that has gone on for two decades now, so that's just wonderful. Yeah. To we'll congrat-. Congratulations. And. Yeah, I look forward to hearing what everyone thinks the book. So thanks, everyone for listening to this episode of the astrology podcast. And we will see you again next time.
S1 E2 - We are the Light || Not Your Ordinary Podcast
"One this is not your ordinary podcasts and I am your host for today. My name is scrapped So this will be our first ever or maybe second ever episode here in not ordinary podcast. So I'm not going to introduce myself a lot further BASS. I'm just an ordinary person Ordinary man just seems to know. God that's it. I just know who god is and I want to share his words. He's teachings to end this. What this podcast is about This is walk not ordinary. Podcast is about this about giving positive insights from positive. Coaching and life learning lessons from the word of God. That's what ordinary podcast is about here in this podcast to talk about Different sorts of things Ramadan goose outbound. Montebourg a bad guy so I would like you to really appreciate it if you would click that follow bottom right now or subscribe button right now because it will be a great help for our team for our family for NY OB FOR. You're not ordinary podcast. So this is some kind of. Let's say the beginning the beginning of despite guest start this podcast. So I'm going to share. You guys is about. It is in the book of Genesis in the Old Testament of the Bible in the book of Genesis. Chapter one so since it is the beginning of this podcast Stall in your beginning beginning Latin. Anto the Mundo Latin America God genesis guys so today smitten at allow Trivia. I Some Guy. That'd be awkward great so before that. I'm not a professional but gasser sometimes I will Sorta sound awkward but this very knee so your guys lmu. By being Jamie's aside from it is being a book from the Bible the Bible by the way. It's not just one. It is our compensation of loops so the Bible has sixty six books compiled in one. So that's what the Bible this so it has sixty six books so you guys e Biggs Amenia translation own definition. Yeah I the beginning of something. So that's what jealousy means the beginning of something and I really liked that name. I really liked that. Definition of this word Genesis. It reminds us now. There is always a beginning. Go something Indian Bustan. Delone engine always has a beginning aside from God because he has no beginning and he also has his gun mobile-phone Latin Induna Shah owners are now Jose Induna television. Because he's gone and we can never question so guys for our beginning. I want to share you. This genesis chapter one. I'm GonNa read from Verse One Verse Four so chapter one verse one. It says here that in the beginning God. F The heavens and the Earth. Now the earth was formless and empty darkness was over the surface of the deep in the spirit of God was hovering over the waters and God said net there be light and there were slight odd so gut saw that the light was good and he said break the light from darkness that you just read that again in verse four says God saw the light and the light was good and he's separated the light from the darkness so we are going to focus on that versus right now over. Steinmeyer sport in Genesis. Chapter for on our rim of verse for the day where this episode it is our aim averse or the word of God dot striking to our hearts it has already strike in my heart and I want to share it to you guys We did again. I'm GonNa read it again for you. Guys buy 'em reading from the new international version or the version of the by the by US many translations as many versions pipe preferred to use the NFC because it's not that complicated It's understandable. It's not that shallow on the piano. What they mean if you know so it says there that God saw the light and the light was good any separate and the light from the diner. So what does this mean? Nice of you ever wondered of something purpose. Because have you ever questioned that theory Saturday? You'll ever asked that purpose go Volleyball Number Boy Volley Ball and indeed. Some don't do ANABOL- unabomber. I thought she own up an ongoing thing and steal sometimes anabol- purpose school what I build Madison and Abandon Gamco unabomb. You schools are boy sometimes. Think now maybe we just go with the flow going on not go on noon. Western going going also going. You'll know also going someone don't even though we know it's wrong. We haven't that kind of sense now. One hundred zero sometimes or more often we do. What's wrong instead of doing what is right now. I'm not going out in Melik. Muscled up on by then. We can't deny that up because that's the pleasure of this world denied that but let me tell you this in this verse or in this Chapter. Suggests THIS CHAPTER ONE. We are the night in the C- Lord not go on window. He was forming her to a sporting our world and get ongoing Alabama Makita. When he speaks it happens and one thing that he formed is that he made. I like the darkness was so abundant so before that before the light before the light gain there was once darkness. Sooner you darkness by light and Being Score Hindustani God own darkness. I'll niller none. I own gardening darkness light. I don't know what the reason is. I own dark to light within among staying in the darkness but no he formed a lie and one thing that he did his separate that dictate the Dutch word. Separate that delight from the Darkness Indianapolis Indiana. So he didn't make the light from the darkness he set a separation separated the light from the darkness other around. Td Let's separate the darkness from the light but he's separated. The light from the darkness does because Light Light Young late Nancy Nubian late. Let me tell you these are called and made to beat the light of discworld. Yawn and made the light this world so you must be in accordance with the darkness. You must be separate that because you are the light of the world you are the light of the world. Anonymous are you. Are the light of the earth. So I have evidence as I have evidence as and it is also re thin in the Bible Jesus himself son of God or said to us in Matthew Chapter fibers. Fourteen that you are the light of the world a CD set on the hill that cannot be hidden. So let tell you once again. Jesus said our Matthew Chapter Five Verse. Fourteen that you are the light of the world you are the light of the room a CD set on the hill. The ten being our delight of the World Indigo Limousine. I've been a delight of our. You Are the light of forcing you to believe me. We would just liked quickly thing and corey for making these podcasts. Passer have you ever thought about starting your own podcast when I was trying to get this podcast of the ground? I had a lot of questions. How do I record an episode? How do I get my show into all the APPS that people like to listen? The answer to every one of this question is really simple. Angkor Gory so one stop shop for recording hosting and distributing your podcast mass oil. It's one hundred percent free and ridiculously easy to use. So if you always wanted to start your own podcast go to anchor that FM is lush. Start to join me in the diverse community of broadcasters reading using anger anger that FM slash. I can't wait to hear your podcast has been said by our law and you are the light of the in any talk. Knowledged also said in issuance chapter five verse eight for at one time you were were darkness let now you. I delight in the Law Walk. Us children a fly. Now you go Mittler Nominal. It's currently five. Am in the morning narrated Goto. It is very early. Allow one day Mama. No I'm not in the province or something I mean the better your own. Garbage by elegant. So so let's go back so you said that we are the light of the world. So what does that mean? It means that case temporary only be one guy lance be nine light itself J. B. Beginning Bright What we call this non brightness so not this literally speaking spiritually speaking and logically speaking so the offense thin asks Ghana what are we. What are our purpose what someone doing underway in purpose? Not then this was our purpose this one one cat one after or this is one attribute of us why we are here because we are going to be the light of this world the our call to defeat darkness we are called not to be in accordance with the darkness but culver darkness with our light. Won't guys some room? The medallion flashlight. So don't settle name. Only light the darkness. So you'll play on this itself in be overtaken by the darkness but the light always overtakes the darkness so raiding in only one blogging luana said in that that should be. You should be us. You should never be defeated by the darkness. We should never be overtaken or overcome by the darkness. Because we are the light though. I cannot be need to shine out. You need to shine not in your life. Whatever you are doing right now you need to shine out whatever your juice. Or whatever your rookies. Or whatever course. You're undertaking right now in school or whatever grade. You're in or whatever you are doing in life right now. You need to shine out. You need to be a sprite today because you are the light kind of stay hidden unique to shine. Now because you are the light that your declaration that it be your declaration. I am the light. I am the light of this real declare that over your life. I am the light of this world. I will not be overtaken by darkness. And what does that mean for us? Being the light means that we bring positive these couple of days it was never negative. The light it's represents Bussey DVD. So as the light of the run up on getting positive these young someone don't return the negative things that we the positive and we need to. The people needs to see Wiese in because of us so you know. Abc CBS ABC. I've been bugging light. The people need to see away because of US side is on the in in the morning. So what you must do is that they need the light. So you'll be in the light so allowing and John Mugging Marijuana Undone for people to be able to pass through for people to be able to walk to. Lule need to be delight and the third thing is being the life you need to be the source so wanNA maybe he's the source or young source coming by end for us being the like. We need to be so it'd to be the source of many things sparsity thinks good things. Liam Muggings or stunk. Us ON YOUR MOBILE USERS. Gus Alana Richer but you will be the source of good thing stinks. That is for the good of people things that these were positive with these things that we overcome the hardships. The hindrances of life or the source of the Gospel itself. We need to be the source of the Spanish. Because that is what it means to be the right. So let this be a declaration right now that you will not be in accordance with the darkness because you are the light of the world so genesis chapter for that. God separated the light from the darkness. Ethically now only why not Kim depicting so mom by indicating by SAMA. A demand must always be a separation so choose right now whether who would have been the light which you are called in made both or you will be the darkness so it is a personal decision. I cannot force you to decide on things because it is your personal decision but let me tell you this God called you and made you to be the light that is your purpose that s your calling in. That is why you are. You are leaving that this way. You are made so stop asking yourself. Anabol- Patterson but Dome Waco because this is the answer you are gold and made to be delight this world so before we end this Let me just pray for you If you're listening right now Police closer ice and feel the presence of God in your life and just pray for you. the Father God afraid to whoever is listening to this. Whoever hears this word this words be a double edged sword? The assist to their heart. Brisa stood their body persist through their soul. Let this be a life changing message for them. I prayed that it will be clarified upon them that they are called the light of this world and they must not be afraid they must not be hidden but they're light machine out. They should shine out that I free. Lord got that they're nights will shine out up among other their. They speak blessings under lights. It killing if they're sick. I speak Abundance in life Right now God I pray that you move upon his or her life to ever. Who's listening this listening to this? And I prayed lord embrace being the life of this world this pray in Jesus name Amen. So that's it guys for this episode of Nascar Ordinary Guests In Genesis Chapter One. And I hope you'll be something I hope may not. Even though at some things may generate done than thaw some places I've been because I'm sorry for that buried me. I just want to emphasize that being stu you And I just want to say disguise. That in this podcast. We are not promoting any kind of religion. So we don't care about what the religion is. They are not the molting thing. We're not telling you embraced or convert to any religion in this podcast. But we are sharing the words of life in this podcast guests. We are sharing relationship goes. That's what matters relationship over religion. That is what matters the most. So we're not promoting any kind of religion here in this podcast but we are sharing the word of life and we are promoting relationship with God throughout this podcast. So thank you guys. 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This Is Us 407 - DR226
"It's time for the daily review podcast dedicated to reviews and discussion TV movies and books look for us at daily review on facebook and twitter and Daily Review Dot Com on the web. That's Da L. E. Y. Review Dot com with spaw here tonight to discuss the seventh episode. The fourth season of this is us it was called the dinner and the defeat. The dinner and the date. This was has a fairly basic construction for a episode in comparison. What this is pulled off in the past? We don't have a lot of the other Pearson's listens. We don't have any time travel. So what do you think you like. That don't like me. Would you have time travel. But do you like that or don't like that. It's like one family a one story line. We're GONNA hit on one theme. I guess it has its appeal. Sometimes it's just the deja thread is one that I'm not what is interested in. Maybe we're GONNA have to abandon the deja bashing for the sake of saying that. Her character allows for storylines however this is my big question mark again. Why couldn't this have been tests? Won't let us make test gay. I know that but was so what so she can bring home a girl or whatever I'm just saying like why. Why are we go back to the same well? Every time as all I'm trying to say is like we got we got we audit. You know dishes got this whole. Oh like situation going on that were she always has some adventures but like why did the other two calls have no adventures. We've blank on every suits on but after after bring up so let's talk about these dinners. Paul these are some a parallel times. Here we have talking about some race questions. Some class questions Russian's even class within race which I think is interesting and let's just dive right in. You want to start with the older Pearson's responded with the date. Go for it. Nor the the the basic point is that Maliki Takes Deja out on a skip day so that he can show her his Philadelphia which I have to say having been to Philly and been felt pretty recently. I appreciated the fact that the city is vibrant with a huge long history. And lots of things things to see and do that are not just like history. Only for those of you have not been Philadelphia. They are so embracing of just so many different festivals and things to see do their things to do every single day every single night tons of activities going on so I appreciate Melik being like you. Don't just WANNA go impose on the rocky steps but you know here like some other great places to eat great places to just hang out and enjoy and that was very very very factual but then turns out that she likes him too much. You necessarily check it like she likes to. I don't also okay. Did you feel like it was out of line fine in any way for him to like reach his pinky over when they're like resting in the graph. We're getting to the point. People were that is out of line. Reach your Pinky Hill. That you're you're you're you're liking the person next to you then. I don't know where we're headed as as a piece I didn't think it was out of line but I do think that he is a pretty smooth smooth operator at a kid and so I can appreciate being a girl and being like very scared I mean I definitely remember times like that of being like whereas going now I wasn't as old as Maliki and Asia when pinky touching was scary. But I still feel like it's nerve-racking especially the fact. That Maliki has a baby. you think we're touching pinkies. But what are we going to be touching next. You know. Where's this going? Where's that Pinky the that'd be the first thing in in your mind is is you know? where's that Pinky band? Especially this hot cast is. Where's that pinky been? Well we know where that pink. He's been places were babies. Come out of Paul Jesus Kinky town so did y'all God is flummoxed he's like what are you supposed does your pinky. I guess the primary part that I don't like about her is probably maybe it's because they're the writing. A teenage girl in teenage girls are just sort of someone that forty year old men just don't jive with but she takes everything to eleven every time you know talk to me about that. I mean that is true of teenage girls just to be clear. It's it's not that she's feeling uncomfortable. It says she has to get up and start walking away. Okay and I think they have planned their city date on Saturday. It's not that she's having a bad time at the wedding. Says she's gotTa go outside and bashes car in with the BAT. You know one of the things we know about Deja though is she's had a very extra life okay so it's just it's always always big right like it's not just like her. MOM has a little bit prompt Mama's illegal problems right and it's not just a little bit having public remedy. He's like everything everything about her is intensified right that we have to kind of embrace her as a person she always has these big feelings in these big reactions and I guess I I mean. I'm a little puzzles. Hustled because the pinky touching it should have been more than that if you love rolled over on top of her okay now that would have been like Whoa. WHOA WHOA WHOA? 'CAUSE you're like Public School School Blah Blah Blah right the lake. I actually think even if you were just like friends you know if you just wanted to like touch pinks and be like I enjoyed this day. The state was a good day and he gave a little hand. Squeeze like this was good. You know thank you. That's crazy you know. I do think it was a big response. But didn't we figure out in one of those foster homes that may be there. Are some physical scariness going on remember. Recall the I kinda do and that one house where they didn't have enough to the eating stuff remember that there was some kind of like questionable behavior on behalf of some of the foster parents that like. I don't know she may have come across some bad Juju in the past. So maybe she just super-sensitive is insane. Yeah she has for for sure. I is super sensitive. Alright she read super-sensitive. Okay that's the the fact of the matter. Okay well did you think it was a beautiful gesture of his to have listened to her all day and listen to these little nuggets of memories that were seeping in for her and then he actually brings her to the waterfront with the lit up. WHO GMS? WHO's a smooth gesture by beautiful? Okay so is smooth operators that were trying to say he's a player can denied all he wants but until they show us. The maleek flashback. The shows like ERC alling around the school and Server and somehow winding up with a child as a result. I'm going to believe that he actually does have some ability to interface interface with females successfully. ERC telling Paul Urkel ing verb. That's funny that's funny. Where's that pinky been or Do Guide Disgusting Okay Anyway. All right. We'll so what do you think. A week grounding was acceptable. And do you think it was like ridiculous that the kids didn't think they were going to be busted oi pretty sure deja new. It's just Maliki. Didn't care and she if he didn't care the she didn't care I guess is what it added up to a week. The grounding happens after the dinner correct okay. Is this like after Beth and Randall had sort of been like embarrassing every home. Bold things had gone that night. I guess the week makes sense so I think that like for me I would have come down on an remember that we're only seven episodes in and it was only absorb one or two when and we have randolph panicking about her even taking the city bus alone and now just because she's with another kid having her trips all over the city where we don't don't know where she is and she's not checking in and all that stuff would have weighed on Randall. Invest in terms of like you could have had serious bodily injuries. Something terrible all kind of happened to you and we would have no idea where you were. You know like I think I would have played that side as a parent I secondarily. Yes then of course it would be what were you doing. What body parts were touching more than pinkies? You know all that but my first and foremost would be. I just followed you on the bus scared that someone was looking at you or talking talking to you and said Okay you can ride. The bus achieved a call me immediately when you get school and now you just went around the whole city all day long for like eight hours anywhere where. I didn't know where it was like. How unsafe can you be? I if I were the Randall in the situation and you are in scenario. I'm afraid I'd see. Also there's has that element and I don't know if I would say this to her but I might say at the Beth just selfishly just weren't exposed. We're we're councilman in his family. We we can't go flaunting rules. We can't be caught doing the wrong thing in school. Those people well. I mean that stuff gets around and and you know if she's not punished then then it reflects on me as as maybe somehow manipulating things. So that she so she doesn't suffer the consequences. What's is for doing things wrong or something like that? We can't screw up people. Yes good call on that and I don't believe that that was brought up anyway either. Very good your call. I appreciate that I feel are fathers would have absolutely brought that up for sure and I and my mom would have absolutely been like anything could happen to you. Like how stupid are you going to be. We appreciate that. That's that's a good call. Would you want to go into me dinner or do you want to go into the way way back machine. Let's stick with them. And I I would like to say that the casting being from leaks mom was spot on me has very distinctive. Is there a little bit wide set. They have a very distinctive like eyeliner. Heading magician to it That's what I think of. I think that very cleopatra kind of is kind of wins out it's beautiful and it's very distinctive and they managed to cast a mom Tom who has wide set eyes and I'm sure they did it with makeup of the still really managed to give the same effect. I love it when the casting department manages to do that it is so effective effective in making. You really believe these people are little families. What did you think about the fact that Maliki brought the baby he brought the baby sitters with him? So He's they love to watch Bibi anywhere. I guess that's true. I guess that's true. Be Hard to believe that. There's no one else in the free world you can watch. The baby and the baby was a great tool to act as the barometer for how the dinner was going with all the crying. And everything kinda going shitty. The I've been a baby makes it worse with the crying and all that so yeah the debut service purposes. Okay so I really appreciated this because I I feel like within any particular. I don't know we kind of race against one. Another with like white or black or you know different different ethnicities but when you're within one race and you get down into like the subtleties of the what neighborhood. You grew up in exactly these kind of just like what we consider small really like layers to a person and then how the just like blew up like under a microscope will which is better in which is worse. What's the hierarchy is the worst to be a teenage parent or worse to be a foster kid like okay? We've got to put this on a hierarchy and it's like Whoa. Whoa you know like it's not her fault? She's a foster kid and he had a baby. You know which means he was having unprotected sex like I would say he's doing worse than she. She didn't know anything to deserve list. There's all kinds of things but it's interesting that we experience in this a lot in the special needs community where people want to hierarchy each other real quick Iraq like they're like oh we'll at least I you know am able to see or this person will be like well. You know my child's not in a wheelchair or whatever and there's there's like these quick layering people WanNa do where you're like No one is the level up on anyone else like everybody has a challenge volunteer and like let's just agree upon that it isn't it like so consistent though we get in a group of people and it's like well I have. One child was specialties. We'll have to and then inevitably what I was like. Wow we have three like sit down with problem child yet you be. We have yet to see new in stand up say well we'll have four four special needs children into that person yet. Right so embarrassingly. I guess we played the game But once it comes to the actual oh needs I feel like I hope to God we actually Kinda like are quieter and like aren't so quick to be like well. Why don't you sit down a second? If that's all you have. This was a game that we recognized nice very early in the area earns because it seemed like it was actually a game that people wanted to win by being the worse off. I being being the worst off like if you could run off a longer laundry list of tests and disorders and disabilities and suspected disabilities movies and genetic problems than anybody else in the room and somehow that was some kind of accomplishment which a little bit let me point out the low parallel here in case. You're thinking like royal talking about this because when I think about it what those people were trying to say is you had something to overcome but I have wore to overcome. Then you do. which is exactly actually what happened with Maliki parents Ecstatic off his shirt to expose how far he's come the challenges. He's endured the mistakes he's made like like they almost want to expose the mistakes and or challenges that they are going through so that they can say look how much further I am then you who grew up in in a pretty great life over here with your private school and your whatnot and a nice neighborhood and so big big deal that you're here you know I had to go through all this so there is like a badge of honor. People WanNa wear whether it's in the special needs community or really any community that's like you should look at me with more envy because I've done so much my head overcome so much more which is kind of a shame. They don't apply that to the kids Well don't say Maliki doing so well despite the challenge of being a teenage debt they don't say is doing so well despite the fact that she as a foster child who has had a lot of challenging situations instead as parents they both look at the. I don't WanNa like well since e has good even worse influence. Oh she's a foster kid so she's the worst influence they don't even they can apply the same ruler to their our kids. Good observation then Paul. Do you believe that the bottle of wine hidden in the Pantry is anything other than just a a blip. That's just like is a human and that's it or is is a a little four. Yeah like yeah is it. Is it foreshadowing. Some needless alcohol problems feel that like I mean Kevin is already has cornered the market on alcoholism. I I mean if the show is truly ending next season than we need your y y you probably just shoot a life. Mom I mean I have Very limited alcohol in our house but I have one bottle of vodka and wears it in our Petri and if I were to need to Port I port in our pantry we also walk invader do the same same thing. I pour it in there and then come out do my Red Cup like it was nothing but I've seen several reviews and they all mentioned the wine and in the moment. Maybe it's just because it's one of the only retooling comedic moments in that episode. I mean I took it the same way as you. I took it as like you know the break this is. This is not a problem. Forming this is is just a a mom taking the edge off right. That is what I call him. Yup that's what I call it all right mode. Oh Jeez yeah taking that job. Although to be honest with you that's not enough wind to take the edge off so we need have gulps like quite a bit more to take the edge off but I mean I think that there's something about it that it's a little Pavlov's dog. I mean I think if you taste the wine that you automatically try to tell yourself like chill-out chill-out shallow you know it's the same thing as if you went outside and take some deep breaths. That's our walked around the block or something like that but she can't leave the house so I mean this is the awkward the awkward so this is only little release. I didn't take it like any big deal and I mean Lina. I thought that randle calling you out on it being like drinking Patriot widen like you know. All of that was funny and Yeah no I mean Lord Paul in case you don't know this mom's put wine in sippy cups now to be able to carry it around like baby Sippy Cup so that people don't know like they could carry it in on the on the side of a diaper bag and nobody's got. Yeah no that's like mom juice. That's sad that is that's not passage off edges. The sounds of it. Hey Man just depends on what you're dealing with. I'm not saying Andrea one out of a diaper bag. Our children are seventy seven hundred. Sixty there are no diaper bags up here but it was a camelback. That's quite enough a few. If I see someone that was second on some Sippy Cup. I'd be like go for it girl. I wouldn't judge I just be like okay agricultural and if you're here and you're upright you're doing your thing good for you. They end the meal with some level of understanding what they're dealing with. Because were you surprised that it turned out to be Beth and Malek's mom that that had the headbutting verses. The two dads who it kind of seemed like you know going into it. Randall was very amped up. The Dad is clearly the one we've seen a lot more of because as we saw at the auto body shop. We've we've had more exposure to him. Did you think that the dads were GONNA go at it or did you think it was going to be a mom issue or something else. I was surprised to you. See that was the moms because arms can fake manners politeness with more outward success mean. That woman wasn't trying at aw. She came in casting stink is from the door open. I think the thing is an and you shouldn't. That woman called me mom. I feel like kids that getting back to the class. Part that going into their home they immediately had this level situation where it was like. Okay Okay Oh you're like you live in a nice neighborhood with a nice house and all this of were automatically already kind of had their hackles up the the dad was like all oh I always wonder underwood the inside of these look like they didn't have to say those things like I mean you know the Pearsons don't know where my leaks parents they don't know the interior of Malaysia's parents home. I guess is what I'm trying to say. So they were starting to already like off their game. I want to say as soon as they walked in and additionally you're being summonsed to the house of the girl who your son school with there is a little bit of a stench of being called on the carpet and you know the walking in there. This fan was going to be blaming your son. Like there's no way they're coming to say we apologize for Dacia taking over your son sensibilities and bringing him around the city. She doesn't know right like we know he is GonNa be blamed. So you gotta go in there feeling Edgy and you gotTa have that Mama Bear up like Oh really your dog shit about my kid. My Kid I guess then that might have put her in this mindset where she could blame. The child was the foster parent background as being this influence. That's GonNa drag down her son her her shining star of morals and ethics six. Now on one hand would you say that some people could say he was a shining star of moral and ethics in that he is raising. The baby. Day did not choose the route of adoption abortion or anything else that he took responsibility himself and sort of let go of his own childhood in some away like I mean he's working and he's having to get home to her at least in earlier episodes so given the size of the baby I'd say he's he's probably got a very solid nine or ten months behind him of you've been so I don't know about everything leading up to that kind of guessing that he had to be a little bit more. He had to be a little bit. More right okay. He had a history of being a little bit more right got to. He's got to yes. They were very young very young to have a baby. That is that big babies more than smoke. As far as the there being a fire. You know what I mean. Okay all right so you're down on me. I'm not I'm I'm not a down on anybody that says that they've made changes in our living a different life now. I'm just saying that there is this past. And if you're raising doing this kid that's GonNa try to possibly pitch her little. Start his wagon than dragons hitching than just. I've got to know I've got to know more. I've got to be careful that that's fair and I do want to be super clear. I am not putting keeping the baby on a moral or ethical hierarchy a to having an abortion or adoption. Like these are all supersonic pro choice. So I for me. I'm like everybody needs to know what's right for them. What I was trying to say is that I feel like maybe people? Aw would maybe say well. He sacrificed some things in order to be an ongoing parent in this situation. So somehow we could think perhaps apps he has some degree of seriousness in him. I don't know if there's anything more than that but but I mean all choices would have been super difficult so I mean and it's interesting that his family has opted and they did create the situation where the dad as a teenage mom into teenage. Dad which I don't know that we've seen on TV. Have we seen tange DADS. And then he shows that you've watched a miniature. They exist in the world but in shows that that we can think of in our recent past. I don't know that a teenage dad has been really Clinton Fatima's not whatever I watch but you know they don't focus on that with Chelsea Darrow. Yeah like game of thrones it. It wasn't really that sort of thing. Yeah Well Teenage Dad I was GonNa say you can had bastard dad you bastards. Were just running all over. The place. Game of thrones and so but that that was just took in their bastards out saying that was a world where the culture was just like they're bastards and even people pulled over well respected. We're like well. Everyone fooled around. What are you GONNA do? What are you GonNa do so yeah that was a totally different different Different world in. That's not a fair comparison. Okay so all in all. I felt like that that was actually a pretty decent representation of New People meeting each other. I think that that really pointing to this class situation. I don't think that that's very easy to illustrate necessarily on TV. I think they did a really good job of showing these subtleties of neighborhoods is where you grew up especially within one race like if you have white people looking at other white people because it because it's always done in a race way. I feel like you know really deal with classes. He's like Oh okay this is. This is something I feel like is maybe not being talked about very much and I appreciated that part of it. Remember that Oprah do. What's Yeah I got my attention along time ago when she was talking about racism within African American culture? That related to this. This is not the issue in this episode. But it's somehow still reminded me of this that related to the darkness of their of their hugh election. Yeah and how there was actually like sub racism within the black culture against people that were super dark right so I don't want to expound on that I just wanted to say it reminded me of that even with like you mentioned earlier within a giving culture. There's always still like right. Zoe's people seeking this idea whose below me who's above me and within any any community that's like that's why I brought the specialties community. Because it happens with us too and it has nothing to do with class has nothing much money you make. There's doctors and lawyers and an truck drivers and people don't work at all and all different all different walks of life and we are all different races and this is purely purely A caste system based on level of disability and what your challenges are and why you have challenges so it happens in every community. It's interesting to see it play out. It is so randall was involved in two dinners serving food this episode. Well yes. We're talking a lot carrying on from last episode. Mr Lawrence's invited to the house for this also awkward meal or we get to see we check in uncharacteristically not know how to act. Well I think that he was like so Well I don't WanNa say this when when I said the Momma bear part before this is like the papa bear part right where he very much wanted to be like this. This is my cub right. So doing the handshake that was like so individual to them and personal and Jackson the outside and bringing him upstairs to go show the book as being all my books. Mr Lawrence's DOT COM and on the books jackass be like I built a bookcase. Those books are on. You know that kind of is This this is just like you know it's territorial business and I what another little like it's not classism but it is like a hierarchy and kind of jumping section here but when Jack says Mr Lawrence you can bring your family to the to the festival when you have a family I I thought that was interesting. Because you know what that is. A hierarchy of a married man with a family is better than just a married man which is is better than a single man right lane. It's all true you like your the best man or or whatever you're the you're what everyone's striving for to have a wife life and children and you do things as a family. That's the big goal right. It was interesting because that's like a that's another like kind of strange way. That people ball set themselves apart. WHO's above me? Who's below me? I took a status. I took a basic criminal law class in college and and was taught by a lawyer and he basically described what you're saying but in in legal terms I don't mean in that to say like you know in Latin I mean say like how it actually functions in a courtroom when different people take the stand when different people are found dead and what values assigned to their life and stuff like that the amount of those kinds of hierarchical accomplishments even though they're not really but they are in people's minds like if someone takes the stand and they're a a single man single man versus A married a year old Mary Dad on his first wife multiple kiddos multiple kids. And doesn't you know as a job Bob and all that stuff all that snow you trust him. He is highly more trustable. Twenty three year old guy with nothing going on right And and so and even having said that all of us. I hope that he is like that makes sense. Though I would trust the fifth year old man with like the family and the whatever versus a twenty three year old you you know kid who's like unattached what which is kind of silly because there's no real reason that Manas more trustworthy but that completely see that and even in that same class. I know I remember you talking to me. About how when they do find bodies that are deceased. And there's some sort of money that's going to be offered to the family or whatever's happened happened right. Some sort of compensation judge personal actually when but their physical body to so like if your body is has is covered with tattoos. You are literally Lee worth less money than if you have no tattoos or piercing in the court of law when it comes to compensation man that's crazy. No one's going to admit to that on paper but he in the class. The teacher admitted the nets. Just the way it is just having a having had years of those sorts of experiences he felt comfortable saying that's just the way it works out. It's so crazy but it is. It's all those subtle nuances of leg. People just craving being you know understanding who is higher than me and who is lower than me in the an echelon of life you know. It's crazy checkup things. A little mixed up at dinner where he forgot got that he was actually the dad. Any outranked Mr Lawrence in every way except for maybe knowing about you know poetry and now quite festivals cultural Israel festivals. Yes that was. That was a discussion at dinner about the visit. They had seen something at a cultural festival. Yeah no it was that Rebecca commented on the wife's earrings and said they were so beautiful and the wife said. Oh as Mrs Orange said Oh we got these at at a cultural festival and they would like describing it and jogs like oh is that brand new and now it's just like very gracious about it. They tried to cool about it. But then Randolph trying to express interest and then the moment was when Ryan was like next time you go. Can you take me with you. And that's where it was like leg we can't do that because now it's like you would prefer to hang around a couple that is not your family because they are are more a part of your culture historically than we are. And that's when Jack lost. It was like being like rude. It was interesting there that Mrs Lawrence identified fight over is going on in real time and Mr Right Sono should go with. His family. Didn't quite quite get it. Well Baril for a second. I was a teacher for many years if I was invited over to a student's house and I was having dinner in. It was clear that this was a Kiddo who really liked me. That's I'm I am. They're like we get along and I think the kids great and the kid loves me. I don't even have to. We could all be of the same race the same class the same everything right and I kind of have I've been in situations like this. Were then the kids like could you. Could I sleep at your house or could I like Voodoo something with you Mrs Daily. I mean it is absolutely training to me to be like. I think your mom and dad would like to do that with you. I think that that's something that you should enjoy with your mom next. They should take you to the movie. You would love to go with your mom or your dad like you're supposed to spin it back to the unprofessional as hell for Mr Lawrence. Do not only go to their house for dinner but then to not not mold in sort of keep his relationship chip define like no. You should totally go to this cultural festival with your folks. That would be so fun. I'd be happy to let you know what day you're going. And if you guys as one until like meet up for lunch that day or something that'd be fine but you should totally go with your parents. That's the right co- adulting that we all kind of do as parents and teachers it's like I'm going to keep shoving them back toward you no matter how much they enjoy time with me. I'M GONNA keep saying but you really should enjoy time with your mom and dad. That's just the right way to behave. If you know in my opinion so after a kind of a refocus from Becca the dinner eventually ends. We have the fateful moment out in the yard. What was behind the the laugh when Jack says I can't teach my son how to be black? Okay so here's what I'm going to go with and even though You guys as audience members mors. Please don't please don't burn us at the stake here on this. I really think that it's just the idea that there is no way to be black. Like that's a very ignorant thing to say. Say like Mr Lawrence's an individual who happens to have skin of a different color than Jack. There's no teaching him to be someone of another color. Like that's not a thing and like Mr Lawrence is educated and has all the same opportunities that Jack in terms of like Jack could learn poetry like there's nothing about Mr Lawrence about being black that he needs to learn. You understand what I'm saying. That was kind of like a twisted notion of being but anyway anyway what is being black. What what even is that? That's what would make you laugh to be like. What are you talking about? You know like if you just said like I haven't having hard time teaching him like cultural history of the African American experience and like maybe if you know of any ways to build teach him those things or something. I'd love that but I think it was like. I don't know how to teach them how to be black. That implies there's one way to be black or that it's just. It's like blanket notion of black people that is like what are you talking about. I mean maybe that's why experiences differently. What are you talking about? Maybe maybe he chose to hear it like I like you just said we're Jack was being like to generalizing of what a black experience would be. That's how I'm taking why he kind of laughed like if he had a moment to think about a he might have said that he doesn't know how to introduce the culture and all that and that's why the book look that he had planned to give them at the beginning of dinner but his wife said it was like is too much It was it was in the car. And so that makes it a a very very good moment to hand over the Phalanx. Hugh's book if you want to give both men kind of the benefit of the doubt for like Jack really meaning a deeper question question than it. He just he. Just he presented in what appeared to be a very shallow uninformed generalizing zing stereotyping kind of way right and so I think that's what Guffaw was from Mr Lawrence's like I don't you know there's no there's no one way to be Black Act. That's a ridiculous thing to say. You know it's it's it's not a thing I think maybe when they focus on the fancy fancy handshake At the beginning Jack kind of looks at that news and his is and You know he's like seeing basically disclu like some sort of sweat hogs or store sort of a club a club of his right. He's not in. Yeah yeah so I think that's that's all part of that. Here's the thing Paul if you turn it around if Mr Lawrence had a white child and he said to Jack I don't know how to teach him how to be white. Jack would absolutely laugh. He would smile and he'd be like we're the same as you. We eat we sleep. We go to work a white people. There's no way to teach you how to be white. I can't teach you to be white eight year. I'm saying so. That's like the part where you kinda like it was just. It was just too shallow of a comment. You know it wasn't it wasn't really what he meant to say. And so it was just like it was just awkward. You know it was real. It's how he felt but it wasn't. It didn't show the depth really of how lost Jack felt about. You know what what Randall needed in what he thought he could provide which is at least it at at least if it to go back to the sequence where this is in the show. He is starting starting to really grasp the idea. That Randall wants to know more about where he came from. And that Jack says no idea how to give it to him and part of that though is that you know it's interesting this is this is interested and go back to the to the Torah Philadelphia. Randall came from Philadelphia Elvia. Okay he came from two parents who lived in Philly and an experienced this life in this neighborhood right so kind of ironic thing is that here Jack was making it about race. We had a story that was making it about class. And then you have. Dj and me. Who are trying to kind of? Give us the story of if you want to know where you are like. We're even where you're from. You have experienced the city you have to like go around and live a meet people who live in that city and really get it you know. Now Randall's trying to being there councilman but how much fear fear has he shown a Philadelphia. How much like misgivings has he had about? You know her being on the bus or at the very same buzz that his own parents parents would have met on a public bus and yet all he wants to do is no where he comes from and know who he is yet. The first thing he does is tell his kitto. No you can't be on bliss buses buses and safe at this buses unfamiliar this buses in. Okay no what I'm getting at. Yeah like it's like Randolph's here in the heart of where he's from and he couldn't be more scared the people who live there Leaks Parents Ma League the city itself the very bus system that his own parents met on each suspicious of all of Eh and doesn't doesn't embrace any of it as who he is and where he's from the irony of that is enormous good catch man and thanks Paul and on that note. I'd like to say thanks so much for listening. Thanks luck join us on our new venture called pod clubhouse come come on over and listen to more podcasts from a variety of collaborating podcasters. Thanks for listening pod people. Thanks for listening to my mom and dad he typical home. But you can't stay you. Just go home Fox.