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Fresh update on "melanie" discussed on It's Been a Minute
"Technology development has been on the rise with carmakers for decades They've already spent tens of billions of dollars to develop software and tweak the technology Melanie Mitchell researches artificial intelligence at the Santa Fe institute She says there are significant challenges beyond speed and controlling a car on a track The real problem is that the real world involves all kinds of possible events that could happen and all kinds of different entities like pedestrians and animals and weird kinds of obstacles that a car might encounter For today's competition high school students from all over Indiana are attending along with the state governor and top technology executives to watch these cars compete University of Pittsburgh student niana suvarna says that for most of her life she's been the only woman in any stub environment she's been in She hopes that girls attending today's competition will go into a science career I really do hope that.
"melanie" Discussed on Mindful Productivity Podcast
"I hope you've got your favorite cozy cup of tea because we are about to dive into this amazing conversation. I don't know about you. But when i first heard the term entrepreneurial outlaw they resonated with me so much i was like ooh yes. This is totally for me. Because over the years i really have grown tired of the hustle. Culture the push to always do more. And i have to admit that i was also part of that and although we do have seasons in our lives where maybe we work harder we do more i realize and i did some soul searching over the past year and i've really come to see how much of that stuff is ingrained in how i lou myself and my self worth and this is why this conversation today with melanie is so important and so powerful because we really start to explore what it means to do business your way what it means to do business where you're not constantly stressing out your nervous system. What does it mean to create content and do things the outlaw way with your marketing so that you really feel aligned and connected to your business and to all of the people supporting you. There's so much we cover in here. And i want to go ahead and dive in but before we do. I want to go ahead. And give melanie a formal introduction. So melanie nights is a self published author business mentor and host of the podcast. Entrepreneurial outlaws she describes her work as the entrepreneurial intersection of strategy spirituality and self inquiry where she supports create a folks in building successful aligned and soul filling online businesses while breaking the rules. Melanie is an advocate for building businesses. That serve your lifestyle encouraging you to develop and nurture strategies which allow you to mould your business around your life rather than trying to get yourself into a box. Her deep love for storytelling found in country. Americana and folk music continues to inspire her work and has paved new and exciting paths for her business as she continues to break molds and challenge the status quo of online business. Yes i cannot wait. Let's go ahead and get started and you can hear all of this for melanie.
"melanie" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"On jimmy fallon hav is heading for bear on. I know about a mile out of shaky town. I says talking to the author of a new biography. Sarah josefa hale is the subject. The title of the book is lady editor. Melanie kirkpatrick is my guest and the author. So tell us more about cigarette josefa hale hale was a a believer that women had a higher moral character than men which is kind of interesting And she that was the reason she didn't want them to vote. She thought that they should advise the men in their family from a from a principled higher level but she did have a lot of She she very much supported. The idea of women as professionals as teachers as doctors and other professionals than other jobs is well she encouraged the government to hire a women After the civil war pointing out that there were lots of widows and women needed to support their families but the one area that. I'd like to mention where she i don't think she did succeed was she tried to professionalize the idea of women's work in the hall. She wrote a book called the good housekeeper. Which again the point was to elevate the status of of women who chose to be wives and mothers. And i think there's something we can learn from that we still haven't quite reached the point where our society gives women who work at home the same kind of respect that they deserve well. That's that's putting it mildly. It's interesting how when we talk about feminism in the women's movement. How complicated it is and how it's changed because you're right in the nineteenth century yet folks like this who against women getting the vote. We assume that people who are part of any women's movement would would be for For would be for the vote for women but this issue also how how strange it is that. This woman in the nineteenth century is trying to elevate the role of a woman in the home. Which is i mean. Anybody who has seen the influence that a mother and a wife get home in institution of the home. It's an astonishingly important role. Feminists in the last few years have largely denigrated that. What did she have to say about this issue. She said that raising children was the most important role a woman would have in life and that That there was a quote about women being the first schoolteacher of of the child and she She also created the idea that the the phrase of home economics i believe it was She tried to professionalize the idea of of housekeeping and taking care of children. She thought women needed to be educated and how to train their kids how to run a home and of course a take care of them health wise too so i and at the same time. She thought that women out in the professional world deserved respect. In one way feminists would hate this but a one way. She thought that it would add to the respect of women in the professional world world was to use feminine names for their jobs so for example she wanted female doctors to be called dr s and female lawyers to be called warrior s and even female teachers. She advocated for the use of the word teacher arrests and now of course many people in our century wanna get rid of all those words that done identify people by gender saying that it's unfair to women. She says just be opposite that it adds to their dignity. So that's another big difference between her and feminists today. So what's the last time somebody wrote about sarah joseph hale. Is it safe to say that. No one has written a biography at in our lifetimes. She'll she had a large role in law comes next giving that came out last year but the last time a full biography came out was the best biography the most complete bag if he was written and the eighteen in the nineteen twenties early thirties and their academic studies since then but i think mine is the first full biography and i i it in a to a general audience. I you know without getting myself too much credit here. I'll say i think it's a very readable every engaging book because of my subject. She was so fascinating thing about my own biographies. I think it's a laudable Ambition to write a book that people want to read. That's entertaining and so i wanna say it's one of the reasons that i enjoy having you on the program. Because an academic approaches things extremely differently popular writer and they often have either some ideological ax to grind. Or they have all kinds of let's say fears about saying things that they shouldn't and so it's a completely different kind of book and i think that she's such a central figure. I would just excited to know That you that you wrote about are you sick. She lived to be ninety to tell us about the end of her life. What was she doing at the end of her life. She worked until she was eighty nine so she died about sixteen months after she retired and The she was a very active till the end of her life. Remind was strong right till the end but the last act of her working life was to write a letter to someone Explaining why she was the true author of mary. Had a little lamb. Which i thought was Amusing and at the time of her death eric. It was interesting to look at the obituaries. They were so agitating the she was Just so revered such a celebrity and a in that regard. I did mention earlier and i should have. Which is that. She corresponded with president of the united states. And the road back amazingly. It's sort of hard to manage today. But she was that. Big of senior yeah. She was a huge celebrity. There's just no question about it. Did her kids Go on to do anything notable. We've just got twenty seconds. But let's end their kids. All did well. She was able to educate them well. One went to west point and sadly died fighting In the great lakes region But they all became highly educated and very successful folks. The book is called lady editor about sarah. Joseph a hail melanie. Thank you so much..
Sarah Josepha Hale Made Thanksgiving a Holiday and Wrote 'Mary Had a Little Lamb'
"Talking to melanie kirkpatrick. Who has written a book called lady editor about eat tremendously influential but mostly forgotten. Sarah josefa hail. She lived to be ninety. You said melanie so. She had a long period of influences. She most famous for bringing thanksgiving into the the cultural center. Yes i think. That's exactly right but but she is also famous for writing mary little. Mary had a little lap surprise to me. When i learned that. I thought mother go sit written but sarah haley retina. I mean that's amazing. She wrote. Mary had a little lamb. The that we all think of it as something that was in In mother goose. Which g wrote this did she. Then whited she writer. She wrote in eighteen thirty and the sweat lot of children's books and she was briefed. Chief for a couple of years was editor of a juvenile miscellany which was a popular children's magazine period and Nobody remembers this anymore but mary had that we just remember the i i of. Mary had a little lamb. But the third verse had a moral in it and hit. Mrs hale believed that her children's works should carry morals and the moral of mary had a little lamb is to be kind to animals so moody not moving on to school one day. It was against the rules. It may the children laugh and play. Say the see a lamb at school limits. School
Author Melanie Kirkpatrick Describes Sarah Josepha Hale, the Original 'Lady Editor'
"Woman as you said she was a major figure in the nineteenth century gigantic. Name but virtually forgotten really. I mean whoever talks about. Sarah jesse hail so just tell us about her generally speaking more about her life because she is a hugely influential figure. I imagine how influential she watched. I think she's one of the most influential women if not the most intellectual in our history on she was. She grew up in a little town in new hampshire. She was born in seventeen eighty eight. She was really a a woman of the eighteenth century and when her husband died she was in her thirties with four children by the oldest for seven and a fifth on the way she had to figure out a way to support herself. She liked to write her husband had told her she was good at it. So she got the masons the freemasons her husband had been a freemason and she started to write and the freemasons published her first book. A book of poetry then wrote a novel an anti slavery novel decades before uncle. Toms cabin and that caught the attention to detail and it caught the attention of an episcopal priest in a boston. Who was starting a a magazine for women and he invited her to come. There called the lady's magazine and be the first editor she did and she turned it into a big success. So much. so that louis goaty a publishing magnets in philadelphia decided he wanted her is editor of this book. Called his magazine called the ladies book and she wanted to stay in boston where her oldest son was in college and harvard. But so what domestic odi do. He bought her magazine so that he could get her and a. That was the beginning of uniform partnership that lasted until the I think it was eighteen. Seventy seven so for fifty years. She until she was almost ninety hale. Was this a towering figure in american
Ed Raine, President and CEO of Food for the Poor, Describes How COVID Affected the Food Crisis
"Rain Tell us what are we looking at right. Now you've been the head of food for the poor since roughly this horrific pandemic messed with the world's economy and everything. So what's going on right now. Well thanks eric. I mean one of the things we have to say. Is that the hit that we saw in the us has been replicated in the seventeen countries that we support around the caribbean and latin america. And just as we saw the food crisis has been the number one problem. People suddenly finding themselves without work and in many of the countries the devaluation of their currency is also ensured that they are faced with limited access to food and the food they can find us at a great cost so that burden is greater than and then you know we're in the business of the sort of helping from a relief anyway so you add in what we typically expect in a given year with hurricanes and the flooding and so forth so you know think about las gio cova going on and then those two hurricanes. It slammed into central america. We were that to provide support but it is This is a a moment in time where we are very concerned for the countries that were supporting food. Is the number one
Melanie Hersch on Getting Back in the Game Post Divorce
"Divorce. Everyone comes out a little bit bruised a little bit. Broken a little bit batter. Their egos are hurt. Their self esteem is not added best so but they wanna start dating again. So where where do they began to they. Just say well. Let's just kind of fake it to make it in throw themselves into the dating world or should they be doing some inner work. I yeah so. I would say no to the faking it and making it because we can't fake you know where we are emotionally within ourselves. You know we can. We can try to put on a good front but it's gonna come back and bite us in the aso. It's so important when you when you're post divorce and you want to get out there again. Doing the inner work is so important. Make sure that you're you've cleared out old wounds if you've got old resentments or hurts our insecurities and fears if you show up to dating with all that stuff here not gonna have the success that you would have if you do the work. So it's it's a beautiful time to kinda dig in and look at what's going on under the hood. You know what what's happening and it's so important if you want a healthy relationship and you don't want to repeat the same patterns that you had in your last one okay but to that point someone says listen. My axe was a real something or other and he was horrible in. He did all of these awful things and he didn't validate may and it was all ham and none of it was me. So what do you say to that. You chose him like yeah. He acted that way. But you were accepting it for that many years you saw red flags and ignored them and it's looking at so important to look at. What had you pick that person and stay in that relationship when it was no longer serving you and when it no longer felt healthy and so you know if you've stayed in a relationship beyond when it felt good there some stuff to explore there as to why and it's important to work that out before you get into your next
"melanie" Discussed on We Saw the Devil
"And she was nervous about alex and she was Not sure how. She felt about a lot of these teachings yet. She felt totally comfortable to go. And just do like some recon work up like what like. Which side are you on here for those that. Want to hear that again. Let's actually play the clip. Because i want to make sure people hear this in context to. Let's talk about brandon drew and when he was shot at. Did you have any sort of relationship with brandon. Had you met him through melanie. I had met him briefly once or twice. Not not much conversation. Just tie kind of that. Nothing casual acquaintance. How did you find out that somebody had taken a shot at here. So that's interesting. I didn't know he was shot. At until i was asked to go check on his house and drive by his house to see if their children brandon. Children were there who asked you to do that. I'm alex melanie. And so i drove by and see if anybody's there because she was concerned about our children and i talked to a neighbor and he said that they had moved out two weeks ago and he said there was no children there and he said i'm really glad they moved on because somebody tried to shoot at brandon and i said really so anyway. I went back in shared this with alex. And he said oh. Yeah yeah we heard about that. He got shot at but we believe somebody Tried to take a shot at it to make it look like it was us or make it look like me. I'm not sure who was referring to himself or just alex volunteered and said they're trying to make people think it was me. Yeah so robin if you had to summarize the rest of the call is sherry..
"melanie" Discussed on We Saw the Devil
"I told her she should have never got involved in this. And i'm like yeah. She should've never got me involved. I was not smarter and And then she said he said yeah the place sak. My house took a gun. And i'm like. I wonder why they did that. Can figure that out the time and I figured i kept telling me that. They had a lot of bad people working for them. That now. The cops zombies as so anyway. So i'm starting to get like really creepy failings and then so anyway what my friend. Anyway he was with me does home and he calls me up and i'm like A second am really worried about your test room. Like why are you up. And i'm like okay. Okay i need you to be a friend. Let's talk let's talk. I said okay. I'm not sure how about zombie thing. What do you think they knew what was going on and stuff and i said i just i have a testimony of it like i'm. I'm not sure what to think about how this stuff and he goes. Oh my gosh may too. Because i never have a test right chad lori and so all of a sudden this heaviness that was on him was leaving him just the heaviness of just been trying to pray about. They were really who they were and he's not getting. It was not getting an answer about it and having us believe some melanie. Alex friends right. They were newer friends but they were fairly close. Close enough that as all of this is going on. Melanie felt comfortable enough to call alex to try to get the download right..
"melanie" Discussed on We Saw the Devil
"Line a little bit again. So melania time we've now heard that she had at least a minimum suspicion that the children were gone that chattan lori and alex had something to do with it and in that moment when she sitting in front of nate eaten and he asks her the the kids again. Kids have not been found yet. But melanie knows melanie. Melanie has gut feelings at those. Children are not on this planet anymore. Nate asks her. What do you think about chad. Chad like listen to this the stories you know for all those that do believe in chad and love him and i love him too and i know his family loves him. But i knew about these things before. The news released it and it is documented. So i'm only here to share the truth because of those passed away and that justice needs to be served. My hope is that they will look into their hearts and start to repent of things and confessed the things they did chat. Laurie chattan laurie. I don't know if melanie gabe loves melanie. Boudreau more or less than chad. I'm going to have to say probably on par with yeah. Isn't that disgusting though. It's really gross. That what she knew all this. I watch the nate even interview as it happened right like i watched it live and saying my big takeaway from the entire interview was how much she seemingly still loved. Chad testing And i think actually spurred a lot of the call. Talk to absolutely her her Adoration for laurie for chad law. In even like alex. There's a lot of like fondness in there. And obviously she has eighth thing for melanie boudreau. They have a very special relationship. But with chad for her to end that. Like he's a great guy. I think he's a great guy. I don't like his teachings they're not for me as much anymore but still solid man..
"melanie" Discussed on We Saw the Devil
"People actually excusing that. So i just find it rubs me so wrong. When i hear melanie gab. Especially and laurie doesn't multiple times. Melanie doesn't multiple times. Just he's a drug baby like why is that relevant information at all and on top of that of all people to be entirely. Just flippant about it. Melanie by multiple counts. Has one child with autism right. I actually heard. It was multiple children with autism multiple..
"melanie" Discussed on We Saw the Devil
"Anyway it just shows how big of a worthless heartless cruel piece of shit that you are lori and charles adopted. Jj as a baby. Charles was gauges father. Laurie by alton account. Jj's mother however i think k. Woodcock probably takes the title the actual title. Just how heartless. Can you be laureus years taking care of jj raising jj and in this passage. Melanie recounts that she and lori were talking about. Jj like a discarded dish rag. Well it's not even hours to begin with you should just you should just send him back. You should just return it to his to his biological family. Just so cruel and i just and the thing about it is that this is melanie. Gass off the cuff guy. She's not being recorded she. This is who she is and so that part was just utterly disgusting to me. Laureus spent years raising. Jj with medication. Taking him on trips going to the beach..
"melanie" Discussed on We Saw the Devil
"She was starting to question our relationship. She was wondering if we were having. If if we were having an affair and melanie gibson. Oh well how did she die. Apparently lori said. Well we just had to do what we could to take her out of her spirit. Which any seen in rational human being would be like okay. They murdered her. Yeah but not melanie. Good sweet melanie. She said she believes she's like okay. I'm thinking she said a prayer and she said that's what i'm thinking right. Maybe she did some kind of blessing or something you know people can do that do they. Not teach would. Death is and homeschool. What in the world. Apparently you just say a blessing and your spirit goes home. So that's okay. He's really really bizarre though and again again again knowing what we know. Now don't forget at this point. Charles has is dead Melanie give was there for the planning of charles values murder more or less. She knew that they were planning it for months. And the and the sherry dot will call and you know that she knew but my gosh and in this case even lower value said that tammy was zombie herself two weeks before she died. Okay so this isn't exactly related but kind of like a tangent goldfish in her interview with nate. Melanie says that she didn't hear about charles. Dying until four days after his death based on what we know and how close the two of them were helpless. Melania laurie were do you think. That's legit or do you think that was allied to. Oh hell no. I do not believe that at all. Zack cox even said that. Melanie basically like was with lori. Twenty four seven. Melanie out of her own mouth has said that she was with lori. Twenty four seven all of a sudden this plan Melanie gibbons sherry dot o. Call admits knowing that they planned his murder Quote unquote by for months. And you mean to tell me that lori just kind of like now. I'm not gonna tell melanie. So i just have to go back now. So i know we're kind of jumping around with like this call. But now i have to know what did melanie gibbs data sherry regarding her visit to rexburg with david they were staying at lurie's townhouse. The kids aren't there. This would have been the weekend of september twenty third two thousand nineteen okay to me. This is the most shocking and salacious aspect of the call with sherry dowdell. Let's play the clip of melanie talking about her trip to rexburg and what. She believed thailand. Jj situation with them. Let's play that now. So she's just tell them move up to rexburg. The lord tells her move to expert now shakes thailand. Jj with her challenges europe there. I know she's up there with both of them. Because i can hear them on the phone in the background while she's packing and moving in and then she then she tells me. I don't know within a week or two that tyler is now at. Byu he's up there. She's up there school. So i go so i got visit her and I see that. Thailand is not there and i said hey you know tinies i mentioned again like thailand. Went to byu and she goes. Yeah but gave me this really creepy. Look yeah it was crazy. It was like yes..
"melanie" Discussed on We Saw the Devil
"There's a theme with her lying. Where she'll she'll go with. I don't know i'm not sure it's convenient. She did it again. This one's really fun nate after about portals. You know what's what's this thing about portals in this and again melanie's melanie's i'm not sure. But then she spells out exactly. What a portal is yup. Well chad goes into the closet. And he says a prayer now a special place that they can communicate on a spiritual level or something. I'm not sure like bitch. That's that's exactly you just described it. You're good got it done. If chad opened a portal supposedly he also or had. Laurie assist melanie. Boudreau with the portal in her home as well. You know damn well that melanie gab. Knew how portal operated. Oh yeah oh yeah and speaking of playing with portals. This is my absolute favorite clip of the entire interview. Nate ass melanie gabe about melanie. Boudreau or palau. sqi or. Lamey if you're a lifetime fan like us the yeah. Let's let's play this. And what was melanie boudreau like she was. She's fun I really like. I really love melanie. We did have a special relationship. She loved me. And i left her. And so we She seemed that she had a lot of strife going on in her life and she Was really worried about her family. And so we had conversations about what was going on to some level. I mean i wasn't as evolved with their conversation. Says larry and melanie were but as far as i went we. We just were a support of out to each other. I think so lifetime. If you're listening we're gonna need we're going to need a lesbian. Love spin off of doomsday. Mom because as you heard there is a very special relationship worth capturing and they wish that we can post video of this review podcast listeners. Because melanie gabe lit up like the rockefeller christmas tree. Just the look on her face. When she mentioned melanie boudreau she is in love. This is love for her. I love my gosh. She loved me. I love how she interrupts herself. I liked her. No no love definitely love and here we were getting laurie valo melanie gibbs spinoff but no no we were wrong we again stand corrected guys We will constantly be wrong so long as we keep getting our lifetime fix. Yes if that's all we have to do. I will keep messing up okay. So let's go back to go fish. Did melanie me talk to share it. All about tammy. Yes and to me personally. This is actually the most explosive thing in the call. Because it is actually. I'm gonna go ahead and play the clip of what melanie. Gabe is said to sherry about how she found out that tammy was done. So then tammy dat dies..
"melanie" Discussed on We Saw the Devil
"The next thing they kind of moved into was the general belief system. Nate asks tell me like. Where were you at in this belief system. And melanie goes. Show i listened. Did i ever believe at one hundred percent no entire like she kind of. She's very vague about it. And my favorite part was she said something along the lines of i. I was a zealot. But i was never overzealous which is is funny because like being zealot is still a bad thing melanie. That's not. that's not right. I was driving drunk. But i you know i could still blow a breathalyzer fine. Like that doesn't change anything for you like. You're still not supposed to do that. What it melanie sound like. When she was talking about all of this was sherry did she make it sound like she was a full believer. What was that like. So i'm going to play the clip. Really really quick. This is in relation to charles so as everyone knows. Laurie threatened charles directly told him about. He's now ned snyder. All of that. Melania's exact quote is in relation to charles freaking out right about lorries craziness Melanie says quote. She seemed jesus. I'm really believing that she really saw these things you know and then i'm just gullible as gullible gets she stuck with me like velcro. She was such a good friend to me. You know what i mean. She was close to me. End quote now. That sounds like she. She bought the bullshit right like she was believing that her fan actually saw these things. Yup i mean for her to say and again just backing up for her to say that she believed that lori saw jesus blah blah blah. That means that she actually believed that. Laurie was on the same plane. As jesus right because in mormon religion like in our belief system we believe in order to see a heavenly being. You have to be transfigured in a way to handle that. And so that means she believed that lori really was a god the way that she described herself exactly. So yeah no i would say we just called him a little bit of bullshit. They're just like a streak in the undies though like not full full dump of shed. The next thing that got into was colt. Lots of coal talk. Melanie comes out of the gate. We were not a cold but then like later on. She kind of alludes to i. It's not really a cold but we did get together a lot and when we did get together we only talked about religion and we didn't necessarily have formal leaders but we did depend on a hierarchy of chad telling. Laurie laurie telling us. And i guess just kind of like okay. So it's kinda cold then so what sort cult talk..
"melanie" Discussed on We Saw the Devil
"When she was talking machinery. We got a different kind of melanie. When she was talking the sherry her entire tone just the way that she enunciated words at her tone. Her demeanor was the flipping and almost borderline just like sarcastic sounding very cold very very very cold. There wasn't really any warmth at all with this. Melanie gab on the phone call. It almost sounded. I don't really know how to articulate it. i guess. Let me try articulating this the way. Melanie taught me how to articulate. My words was adversary was a was it. Abashiri it really. She says that the adversary adversary. Your adversary do you. Basically just pretend like you had six. Mike's hard lemonade. And that's a utah. Accent the irony of that is bliss. I get that you're welcome. Everyone those a freebie. You're you don't even have to subscribe. You're welcome this melanie. Gab was not very kind. I was i had i not known. Humility was at all by the neat eaten interview. I wanna fall in love with her. Oh my god what a sweet her and her little. Pink cardigan talk. She's in hiding something. Give her a cookie and then you yes phone call and like oh you know so different okay so for this particular one. If you guys want to get a taste of how melanie sounds would they would be able to hear it. Within like ten seconds of the recording the five five five. So we'll save you. We'll save you the rest of the call. You guys goes in the first five seconds. You get a taste of that. But i'm telling you you've got sweet angel face melanie over here at Beaten and also guys. Just put this out there For this episode. I am going to be inserting clips from this call with sherry dowdell so as we talk about something and go fish. I'm actually going to play the clip of melanie. Saying whatever the quote or like the passage so you can find the full the full call..
"melanie" Discussed on We Saw the Devil
"It actually aired at the end of may of last year so may thirty first twenty twenty but i imagined like for production purposes and blah blah blah. I assumed the interview took place. You know maybe towards the beginning of may mid may somewhere in there but at the the one of the first things nate eaten says is goes he says something like have you been in hiding i. I've been trying to find you since five months ago. So that would have put us either january or february of two thousand twenty either way after the call. That happened was sherry yup. So we're getting melanie..
"melanie" Discussed on We Saw the Devil
"Not that is horrifying morass. Same in the Chris watts case shannon. I cannot imagine to be honest with you. A likely more difficult human being to deal with then shannon did she and her daughters deserve any of that absolutely not it was heinous disgusting and he should have gotten the death penalty basically but we should be able to talk about people and so guys. That's what we're doing with. Melanie goes and i hate to tell you. But i think at this juncture correct me if i'm wrong brittany but there's plenty of evidence to put to give value the death penalty. Melanie gibbs not included in that. It's true and on top of that guys. I'm like searching right now in front of me like i'm looking everywhere and i don't know i'm i'm coming up empty. I've i've no fox to give. There's an here. I i'm rubbing behold the field in which i grow my fox and you will see that it is baron. Okay well there. It is guys sorry about that yet. Fresh out of fresh outta fox fresh out but I just had to do that. Little aside really quickly because this is something that especially we saw the double as a whole the show We're not going to give lip service and pretend that everything is hunky dory when we're going to be real and accurate so that is what we we are going to do. Mostly accurate right. That's the other thing about what we do. We do a whole bunch of research. We are off of at least two sources. Every time we put something together but as you guys have seen with these different document dumps had been coming out. Sometimes things kind of change a little bit. We have to change dates slightly or more information comes out. We get the full picture. Just be cool about it..
"melanie" Discussed on We Saw the Devil
"How everyone you are listening to. We saw the devil. This is robin and we have a fun episode today. Instead of continuing to explore the documents from the big foia dump last week we decided to do something a little differently. If you will continue going over the documents those are available pretty much everywhere on youtube. Seems like almost every single person is going through them. So there's a wealth of information out there about them for this episode britney decided to do something a little different as most of you know there was a huge phone call that was made public in its entirety this last week. And that was a phone call between melanie gab. And a woman named sherry dowdell sherry doddle was a facebook friend of melanie and melanie called and they had about an hour. Long conversation. and the case came up. came up alex cox children. Melanie had no idea that she was actually being recorded. It's very interesting because this appears to be the real melanie gab. And it is definitely a far stretch away from the melanie. Gabe that we see caressing grapes and an orchard vineyard in her interview with nate eaten and then also later on on dateline. So what we did for this episode is we dissect it the to and played kind of a goldfish situation. Melanie made some statements and each interview. That actually completely contradict one another more or less. She lied multiple times in each interview or switched her stories up entirely. So this episode is actually going to be an analysis of those statements including audio clips from both interviews. But before we get into the episode luscious get a little bit of housekeeping out of the way you can find a set. We saw the devil dot com and as stated in the previous episode. We are working on that. Really cool filter tool for timeline. For this case so much has happened. There's so many players so much information and information continues to pour forth so go to. We saw the devil dot com. And you'll see our timeline tool where.
Is Alex Rodriguez Dating Again?
"Alex rodriguez is still obsessed with jennifer lopez yesterday. All these rumors blew up. The alex was dating this. Nfl broadcaster. her name is melanie. Collies very beautiful but that is not sure my sources tell me because he still obsessed with jaylo sources. Tell me the following quote. Alex is the most competitive person you will ever meet. He's e- guy was bruised. Jennifer dumped him however when she got back together with ben. Alex is ego was destroyed. There is no way. We're going to see alex dating to gay. And until he finds himself get his an a list actress with an oscar so jennifer mood onto bed. who has an oscar. He's a list so what they say. Is alexey so competitive. He's not going to end up dating somebody on tv. He's gonna want what jen has which is an a. List oscar winner. It's ridiculous but it's also true. What do you think mister. Oh my goodness. I was just having this conversation with a friend. Saying there's no way alex can up jennifer lopez. She's dating ben affleck. He's gone an oscar and so of course our reporting supports all of that. It's always hard to see your ex move on right and then when it's somebody's so shiny and bright. It's difficult but alex. I think you just need to find somebody that you actually care about. Maybe this is the problem in the first place you wanted to be with somebody with a certain status instead of somebody enjoyed having time with. I don't know but it seems kind of crazy. I go on and find true love. That's what i want for you.
What Is an Unexpected Calling
"Sewer back with melanie red. And she's talking about her calling. And you're calling and what you're doing and melanie you've had a calling on your life in many different ministries and just recently. You've become a health coach with your husband randy. Let's talk about that okay. Well i'll tell you this. Nancy people ask me. How will i tell them. I just get up every morning. I henry black abbey who wrote experiencing god. He said he gets up every day and he says god. What are we doing today. And he wants to live on mission in an adventure with god and so. That's kind of how we see our labs is we're just everyday is an adventure with him. This time. Last year my husband was having some heart issues and he had to have three cents put in his heart. Doctor said if he does not lose weight. I'm going to be cracking him. Open and it scared us and so we started this health journey where we said we gotta lose weight. We've live differently. Not just change a little bit or changed for a couple of months. We need to change our laps and so we went on an adventure. And we've lost together. He's lost about fifty pounds. I lost over thirty and We just changed the way we live. We eat to live. we don't live to eight. We're more active. We feel better. Were taking better care of ourselves because we feel like we wanna live are however many more years god gives us healthy and feeling good and not in a doctor's office is so that's kind of how that came about and then other people started saying what are you doing and so. It's been a lot of fun nancy. Because i didn't set out to do it but we've been able to help over fifty people start to lose weight and feel better so that's really great. That's fine but we were just kind of doing arab thing living life and got added this to our plate. Yeah it's like it's his own ministry you know and that's an even though you start out with what you think you're supposed to be doing. You may end up. God may end up putting you in so many different ways using you in so many different ways right to say i tell my kids that my kids are in their twenties and they're kind of figuring out their futures in their careers i saw. I think it was. Gary banner check said the other day. You don't have to decide what you're doing for the rest of your life. You just have to decide what to do tomorrow.
Historic All-Female Broadcast Crew Will Call Orioles vs. Rays Game
"Next week will be uniquely different than any other MLB game in history. When the Tampa Bay Rays host the Baltimore Orioles on Tuesday, the entire broadcast team will be comprised of women. The current Orioles play by play. Announcer Melanie Newman will call the game. At MLB dot com Writers Sarah Lang's will be the analyst. Meanwhile, Helena Rizzo will do the on field reporting, while Heidi Watney and Lauren Gardner will anchor the studio shows. Newman says. You recognizes the importance of the broadcast that wants to make sure their first all female team isn't the last stock staying
Kate Hudson's Beauty Go-Tos
"Speaking of things people get incorrect about you. I was like googling around about like beauty products that use. You have a google index question. You know when it fills in the question for you. Does kate. hudson wear makeup. It google comes up with the most specific answer. I have ever seen so i need to fact. Check this with yells funny. Psi was not asking. Kate hudson wear makeup. I was just like you know doing renault make right now. I have now stitch on. No google is sure. The kate wears vital skin foundation in three and four on the first of all that's gucci westman product. They don't even say gucci westman snake. But i have to ask. Is that true. Do you wear makeup. An are you fastenings. I have pre probably an interview. Versatile gucci's makeup is the best okay. So that they're not. They're not not not not wrong now. they're not wrong. It's all just okay. So that is in your lineup. It's in my lineup. By the way a lot of products are. And i do like three. And i sometimes use for. It's little dark. that's a little dark me. I'm more of a three But my another makeup artist. That i use all the time is monica blunders. She made some really beautiful clean. Conceal irs and you can add. Ws them it's like blunder. Wear i cannot with lists them. have you used it. i got to use it. They're they're works were ray to does she do. Your makeup yeah. Monica does my makeup. Sometimes i have a couple of my life goto favorite. Is melanie french. You know the amazing makeup artists. There's monica deb. For rula i work with a lot And and gucci. I work with And quinn by quin murphy. In new york is great. Yeah yeah so. What about care. What's in the skincare rotation these days for a non creature of habit. I love Again i don't. I don't subscribe to anything. I went back to old interviews. I've done with you and it went from everything for like as tech clay. You know the like internet favorite math as that was like a long time ago to like lemaire of this woman does not discriminate. No no and i also think like i'm a i'm like big clean beauty person but i also know that a lot of products like for instance lemaire that a lot of time. Sometimes people say oh. There's so much fragrance or so much. This in it their product had efficacy of lemaire is out of control or do you still use the. Oh yeah. I mean. I when i'm an aspen and i had that kind of dry of oh. Yeah i need the lamar like the lemaire changes the way my skin holds moisture in. Dry climates like that. It's like really
Democrat Melanie Stansbury Wins Special House Election in New Mexico
"Only Stansbury wins a special election in New Mexico for the seat vacated by a member of President Biden's Cabinet. Here's Fox is Joe NATO. When Interior Secretary Deb Holland went to work for the Biden administration, her house seat in New Mexico was left open in a special election to fill it. Ah, battle between Democrat Melanie Stansbury and Republican Mark Moore's Stansbury, aligning herself with his current Democratic legislation on pandemic relief and infrastructure. Moore's painted her as a progressive with a radical agenda. In the end, Stansbury prevailed, telling supporters at a victory party. I'm proud Stand here tonight. As your next cars stands. Berries win means New Mexico will continue to see an all female delegation to the house. And it means Democrats will have a nine seed advantage there to 22 to
Democrat Melanie Stansbury Wins U.S. House Seat for New Mexico
"Now has a new election night last night In New Mexico Democrat Melanie stands very winning the congressional seat left open when Deb Holland became Interior Secretary Stansbury taking the first congressional district race over GOP state Senator Mark Moore's and her victory is a win for Victory to our state our communities into our country. I'm just so proud. Stansbury says her team worked their hearts out. Derek Dennis ABC NEWS
Democrat Melanie Stansbury Wins US House Race in New Mexico
"When president biden name deb holland to be. Us secretary of the interior. She made history as the first native. American cabinet secretary in us history. She also less historically created an open seat in congress and tonight is the special election to replace her now. Republicans desperately want to pick up a seat in the house. Democrats desperately do not want to lose one. Because of how small the democratic majority already is the house of representatives but polls have closed now in new mexico's first congressional districts. Let's check in with steve kornacki to see what we know. Hey steve hey rachel will we know a lot and this happened in just the last five minutes. What you're looking at on the screen. It's elaine slide here and it's significant because i think the question right now has shifted. Who is going to win this race but to how much the democrats are going to win this race by. Let me take you through. What just happened in the last few minutes. You see melanie stains. She's a democrat mark morris. He's the republican. You see a two to one edge here for stains barry. Essentially what just happened. Is we got the early. Vote slash the absentee vote. You'll mail in ballots and also the vote that was cast early in this election. That's a huge huge chunk of it. We got it from the big giant county that makes up the overwhelming bulk of this district. We knew the democrat was going to do well with this big chunk that just came in. We didn't expect necessarily it would be this well for the democrats so a thirty two point advantage here for stands berry with that. That's certainly exceeds. What the democrats did with the early absentee vote in. Bernallio county. That's albuquerque back in november. It certainly puts stands berry on course to win this by a decisive. And this is where margin. I think becomes key because i think that's the storyline that everybody's looking to in this district. It wasn't necessarily. Which party would win but with the democrats win by a convincing
HCA Enters New Partnership With Google Cloud
"Google has struck a deal with hospital. Chain h see a healthcare to develop algorithms to improve care and operations. The company is say they'll consolidate and store data from digital health records and internet connected medical devices. It's google's latest venture into the healthcare space after making deals with other hospital systems including ascension. And the mayo clinic. Our hospital reporter. Melanie evans has more. They are hoping to develop new algorithms for for example patients who have congestive heart failure who are in the hospital in need close monitoring or ways that they might be able to use this information to treat infections more quickly effectively
111-Year-Old Australian Recommends Eating Chicken Brains
"Australia's oldest ever man shares some secrets prolong life dexter Kruger is a retired cattle rancher and lives in the Pinnaroo aged care centre in Queensland he's probably one of the sharpest residents here his memory is amazing for a hundred and eleven year olds Melanie Calvert works at the center dexter Kruger told Australian broadcasting a weekly poultry delicacy has contributed to his longevity chicken Brian's yeah they are chickens have ahead and in there there's a variety as I have delicious little things as anyone ever bought Kruger is writing his autobiography have written three hundred stories and they're all packed in my mind gather gathered over a hundred years the oldest ever woman in Australia lived until she was one hundred fourteen I'm at Donahue
Empowering Caregivers Through Technology
"Melissa how are you today. Thank you for joining me curt. Congratulations thank you. Yeah you get really sick of your own voice. When you do this. I'll tell you it's very quickly green. You know absolutely and really. Like i say this all the time in the beginning. And i don't know if you can relate to this but like when i wanted to kick it off. I kept feeling like somebody had to give me permission to do it. Like kept telling everybody like. Hey i'm going to do this thing. And everybody's cool. Yeah go do it. And i'm like but should i don't know you never lose. That is actually speaking of never losing you. Melissa have company called josh. So tell me. Josh is and what does it do for who you are and thanks for the opportunity for being here. John is a tech platform that matches families. With special needs disabilities specialized care needs to find an increase greens a caregivers sitters nannies. And we are an end to end solution for those families and five across the country to really aimed build a team and manage their care needs in one place. It's something that melanie fontaine. My co-founder who happens to sister. We're super passionate about That's awesome yeah the services amazing and it's so needed and from understanding your story. It really came from personal experience right. Yeah melanie and i grew up with our big brother josh. He was the best big brother we can have. He also happened have developmental disabilities and a pretty severe epilepsy disorder to put it in context effort meeting for people who don't understand what those things mean. Developmentally was around the age of ten or eleven. No matter what his age that was developmentally where he was and then epilepsy. He would have two to three seizures a day and different types of seizures and what kind of encompasses those needs. Pretty complex made involved major to call mas Occupational therapy physical therapy medication. Just so as a family really changes your view on life advocacy awareness and just really help precious life is and how little we have a bit and to make the most of it
Jailed Russian Opposition Leader Alexey Navalny Ends Hunger Strike
"Navalny is ending a 24 day hunger strike. He says he's reached his goal of getting medical attention thanks to supporters from around the world as NPR's Lucy and Kim. Reports from Moscow know Melanie was imprisoned in January after returning from Germany, where he had been recovering from a poisoning he blames on the Kremlin. Alexei Navalny made the announcement in a social media post put up by his allies. Before his hunger strike. His request for medical attention were met with smirks. Navalny says He's now been examined by civilian doctors twice. Navalny's condition was met with concern by world leaders such as President Biden, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Emmanuel Macron. Is worsening health also brought out thousands of protesters in cities across Russia Wednesday. His post, Navalny writes. My heart is full of love and gratitude. He says he'll still insist on getting outside medical attention for the loss of sensation in his arms and legs. Lucian Kim.
Elizabeth Westendorf: Traumatics Accident and Career Transitions
"Today. I'm interviewing elizabeth weston dwarf. She is a comprehensive fee. Only hourly financial planner would financial planning. Her interest in personal finance started out of her own mental health journey where she saw the intersection of mental health and financial security and addressed her own financial mistakes. She brings that nuance and compassion to her work with clients. She also writes about her own experiences. An her career change to financial planning on her blog owning the stars. I'm so excited to have you on the show. Yeah thanks so much for having me melanie. I know this is so fantastic. We have been following each other in the blogosphere for several years. Now so super excited to see everything that you've done all the changes that you have made and super excited for you to be on the show. So i wanted to dive right in. I know you mentioned your own mental health kind of started you on this journey to money and i'm curious kind of like once your story with mental health and money. Yeah so i mean. I think that mental health plays a role in everything right wake it affects all aspects of our lives and of course that includes money and so when i found myself out of college in a job that i loved but i was stressed was i was adulting for the first time which was hard And as my mental health suffered so did my finances right. I was looking for quick fixes for quick comforts. Ordered a whole lot of takeout went to the department that was. I rented an apartment. That was too expensive for me. I adopted a second pet. When i couldn't afford that like so many things and then as i realized okay. This isn't going to get better. I need to fix it as i fixed my financial mistakes. I noticed that there was a direct correlation with my mental
CIOs of Dow and CarMax Drive Process Modernization at Scale
"Let me begin with you melanie please. So wow what a. What a remarkable several years. It's been during your time and your tenure as chief information officer dow has been through major acquisitions. It's been through multiple major Divestitures as well yours is an organization generally speaking but an it organization more specifically that has had to foster a tremendous amount of change and stand up as well as spin out a lot of parts of the organization and think about the people process and technology implications of each of those things. I want and what one of the fascinating changes that you've ushered in is a changing. It's orientation more towards service delivery. And i wonder if you can take the story from there and talk a bit about i. Why maybe talk a bit about the specifics of service delivery as as it's defined within your organization as well as some of the methods you have used in order to bring that about scherer. Thank you peter and happy to be here. You have been through tremendous change over the last few years with the Like you said the merge of two companies and spin out of three companies which davis a great opportunity to drive changes and really Early-on start driving some of our digital transformation which put us in a really good position As the pandemic But one of the key changes from as an it organization we help drive. Change across the whole company Several years ago. When i took over as cio we put a strategy in place which was really a not an it strategy it was really a it strategy for the company or the organization and as part of that we really changed our approach To how we how we execute in in in nis we focused on the customer experience the employment experience and working at the speed of business
Serbia vs. Portugal: Ronaldo Robbed Of Game-Winner
"Kick things off by focusing on serbia's two two draw against portugal political tuna at halftime. So getting back to two two but the big talking point cray was late f- from cristiano renaldo and doubts whether or not a date cross the line. It wasn't given echo furious. Serbia had just ten men with half sent off but really it was neither here nor there. A minute left. And the extra time as you said long diagonal ball. Over the top of the defendant. The at the angle was not keeper. Really pulled decision to komo judger and rinaldo from manado really. Not a language said took it for time. Lick good ball was traveling over the line. In one of the seven defenders. Go back to hook it. No at dead on the face of a look over up just in a couple of sales on twitter and when is twitter ever wrong just in unless the angles are wrong from the pictures at the whole ball was probably over and of course. You've got goal. Line technology el al ticket to melanie as the ball. Hovering over the light will not be given for deadlock just managed to meander over but cost. Don't have this technology and we're talking about world cup. Qualifiers here in the technology has been around for a good couple of years. Now at least until now have an qualifiers all beat when you argument. Well the cut off gibraltar. Walk marina or wherever. I sorry that just doesn't cut it because it's too
"melanie" Discussed on Northstar Big Book
"Alcoholic, welcome to Northstar big book. I am so excited to start a new type of episode that I'm going to be doing where I'm I'm inviting guess that are Big Book Lovers and students at a book on to my podcast to share with me and with you something about the book they love or something that's been helpful to them and hopefully to make it feel that way for you to We Have Tonight one of my sponsors Melanie Melanie is if I had to like talk to you about her took you what I love about her is she's on fire with a and when I say that I mean she caught the bug of the solution from the book and the steps off and the 12-step promise, which is as a result of these steps the first eleven she is become a different person and she is a go to for me. I can't do this by myself song. I have a new girl that needs a sponsee sponsor. I give a Melanie's number. She is a person that can lead a meeting can share the steps. Can she is the Secretary of one of my home grown? She's just a person that follows through and I know her well enough to know that her hearing these things about her is probably freaking her out a little bit because like how the hell did this happen right away. Yeah. Welcome Melanie. Will you tell everybody your sobriety date? Thank you. Yeah, my name is Melanie. I'm an alcoholic my I need my sobriety date is March 26th, 2019. Okay so listeners, it's 2020 right now, which means we've got someone on here who's relatively new on fire useful and amazing and just to clarify for any listeners out there. I love the big book so much there is nothing in our book that tells us how much a length of time or sobriety you have to have in order to help other people other than you have to have done the first eleven steps. So mellow song Is one of the Kick-Ass humans in my life and I share inventory with her and she shares them with me. And when I asked her to do this she did what she always does and said yes, and I asked her to choose a part of the book that you went to go over. So what do you choose? So a part that's just been so big in my own sobriety and something that you know, I didn't just do one and done like this is a part that comes up for me on a daily basis and off, you know, it's current for me and it's page 60 at the bottom of page sixty which is where step three begins.
"melanie" Discussed on Welcome to Day One
"To understand future development at a point where castle boundaries intersect maybe met with a tangled mess of bureaucratic and technical challenges to overcome to understand how melanie came to co. Found in to tackle these challenges. I we need to go back today. One where an eighteen year old. Melanie would have had life forever changed by a year abroad. I came to architecture after about of travel. I was really fortunate to participate in a student. Exchange for twelve months after high school and i was based in germany for that and i was exposed to lots of lovely opportunities around europe during that time. Yeah it was incredibly exciting for me as a young eighteen year old. Have this sort of level of independence. It was a real privilege. It was an iron for me. I was a girl who hadn't travelled widely and i was exposed to lots of lovely opportunities around europe during that time. And i was. I guess a little bit flummoxed and intrigued by how humans mold the environment and create architecture for public and mystic use so during that twelve months. I should've of radically changed my direction of korea and applied to study architecture at newcastle university. In fact. And that's where. I'm at chris and we've enjoyed a great professional and personal relationship for over half of our lifetimes. Now automating while both studying architecture at newcastle unique melanie and chris's relationship blossomed both romantically and professionally. Over the course of a couple of decades the pay would go on to get married. Have three kids and work as architects around the world. The pair worked primarily in commercial and large scale construction. It was a decidedly more domestic project however that set them on the path towards fattening about six years ago they undertook a renovation of their own private home it was during this process that a specific problem really started to neglect them. The property sector. The property and construction sector is one of australia's largest and most valuable sectors and it lashley. If i was being completely frank largely operates for twentieth century model. So it's ripe for improvement disruption and Clarity it's quite. Pike as it stands at the moment in australia. There's over half a million changes to the built environment applied full and approved every single year and the lion's share of that process happens at a local government level. So typically if you want to build a hospital or cut down a tree you apply for that change to happen and it gets interrogated and it gets assist against a lot of street documents and it gets a green light an orange or red light at the moment because it happens at a local government level. It's quite difficult to find this information because there's over five hundred sixty different councils in australia. They all operate different systems and all have different. Language sets for instance. I'm gonna use a really lo fi example here if i'm on one side of a street and there's a council boundary that runs down the middle of that straight and there's another boundary that happens at the end of my street. I have to look at three different silos together. That information and we thought well hick everybody in this sort of ten trillion dollars sista. Everybody's really struggling it's Sorry i should prefix all of this. It's public information curated and it's not curated. It's not cleaned up. Its i'll give you an example of that last month in south wales alone there was i think forty eight different ways to say something was approved. Wow and it really was through it was. It was a collision of things to be honest. We had this sort of professional knowledge and professional exposure. We also had a situation where we were renovating our own home. You know everyone invests their hard earned sayings into this like mammoth mortgage and we were traveling down a path of doing a renovation. And we'll help. Can you be investing this chunk of change into something when you have no idea what's going on around you. How do you not know that you've got your views about to be blocked. How do you not know that you know. We spent time researching. This is madness. Like surely we can solve this problem right so which one contributed to equal equal equal. Now i know that sounds like we're towing line there but it was. I think without the sort of professional knowledge that we had trying to tackle the problem wouldn't have been possible. While working in the same industry. Melanie increase have h worked in different roles and as such over decades. They have built up contrasting skills and experience which complement each other. Chris and i have really disparate crazy in architecture. I practiced largely in of business development administrative communications role at director level again around the world. Chris has always wanted to be an architect from a child and he is very skilled at putting big complex buildings together. He loves it and he's good at it l. ago when he was a kid. Oh i think so but he at the same time as he played lego he was also building his own computers because his father had an interest in this and his neighbor happened to be a fellow. David strong who brought apple computing to australia. So they had. I think that apple. Lisa on their kitchen.
"melanie" Discussed on We Saw the Devil
"But Melanie seem to agree with or listen to the outside teachings and I wonder too if she is just saying that she didn't really believe it all now or if she was really into it and then backed away because she did say she kinda got sucked in. Yeah I believe I think those were sucked in. Because he asked like. What were you brainwashed? And she was like read washed. Oh honey I it's. It's very strange but I wonder why she didn't meet Laurie terribly long ago. Though realistically right like how so what made them so close instead of the next woman in Church other than they. Had you know some common things but like you you hang out with the with this person they start getting a little weird. You're like okay. You're weird but you're still cool and then it's just like well. Let's not forget to that. They started doing the podcast together. Like Melanie Gass. Okay so Melanie Gabe on her own accord as her own individual person has written books has a podcast if she does have a little bit of a name for herself right so people who. Melanie Gibbons too so you know. I'm sure that Lori kind of got in there and it was like I have to famous friends now. May maybe I am an say. I'm not going to follow any weird teachings you have now for knowing someone that like short of time and then being like. Oh Okay Yeah. She does seem though. I don't know how how authentic that is. If like. She was all in or she does mention a few times that she was a little more. I don't know she was more wavering. Yeah if what they were saying was truth or not. But it's hard to tell us. Nate out something along the lines like if any beliefs crossed the line and Melanie said yes. But we're GonNa talk about that later and I think she was talking about the Zombie. Yeah that's what my mind immediately went to. I think she said SOM- we'll get into the Zombie stuff later or something and then did he has to ever make you feel special or chosen. And she said yes but she said that she. Didn't you know here it personally from God? She didn't get the message from God. It was just Laurie. Kept saying you are special. You are young. Talked her into it. And then Laurie also told her that she had been friends with both know her Lori and Chad in a previous life he and she's like well. That's what Laurie told me. And then she laughed and she's like I have no memory of that. Yeah so it kind of sounds like she wasn't fully bottom right..