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"meghna chakrabarti" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts
"You're an investigative journalist. First and you you go where the where the facts and the evidence take you and you're a member of cherokee nation as well. I'm just wondering how spending four years on this story. how did it. How did have an impact on you. I've reported a lot of hard things. You know violence against native women missing and murdered indigenous women. What's happening with krona virus on our communities and i would say that this is the most demoralizing thing that i've ever looked into What happened to these children. But i think also really. I think what got me was talking to the family members who didn't want win custody and the loss that those families are living with Yeah i it's so heartbreaking case and i would also say that you know the media has really for the most part gotten the story wrong because they didn't do the investigating that we did And so there are facts major papers that are just inaccurate and so i think that people really need to start asking the hard questions about this case that we asked will. That's why i urge everyone listening to subscribe to this land. Podcast season to where rebecca nagel and her team. Go through in way more detail than we just touched upon here in this hour about. What's really happening with this equa case. So rebecca nagel host of the crooked media. Podcast this land. Thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you so much for having me. I'm meghna chakrabarti. This is on point..

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"meghna chakrabarti" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts
"Community relies on as we seek to replace that with alternatives. It's important for us to not take away from the safety even if it's not where we need it to be that Exists on the ground. Now oh no go ahead. Please please go ahead. Yeah i i. i just want to emphasize. we're investing tremendously in violence prevention and That is critical. We have violence interrupters. Who were starting to hire for. We have Other tools that are expected to be more of the long term sustained support for community members to ensure that we don't they don't end up down a path violence but that has a longer term impact that doesn't affect the response. That's needed today in so win. I'm gonna anchor back to the. We have to do both at the same time. And as we start to see the benefits of the alternative responses and see the benefits of the preventive investments and see those changes. We can draw down. We'll have more confidence to draw down. No one on the reimagining public safety task force Stated that we are going to get where we wanted to go within one year two years or three years but what we created was a roadmap and there are those variety of recommendations that came out that we are implementing. I think more than half the recommendations we either started. Implementing or in the Sort of ernest planning phases for that setting us on the right path and on the direction the the question. I think everyone agrees that we want to get to that more Proactive community anchored Public safety system where police are a very small aspect of that But the question is how fast we get there. And what safety security mechanisms we insurer in place as we are moving down so to your point. I'm seeing here that s- some of that eighteen million eighteen million dollar diversion from the oakland police department is going to increase the department of violence prevention budget by fifty percent and that macro pilot that you talked about earlier about unarmed civilian employees responding to nonviolent nine one one calls also getting a big boost up a some four million dollars to six point two million dollars now. So that's correct. Yeah when you look at all the investments that we're doing into violence prevention alternative responses and others. It's much more than that eighteen million dollars figure and so we are heavily investing in resources that our communities need while at the same time. Making sure that we've got a minimal level of response that's needed to keep community. Say well one thing that's coming loud and clear over the course of this hour. Thanks to you and kisha henderson is that it seems that the very residents of the neighborhoods who are seeking help. The most still don't feel as if they're being heard properly Across oakland so we will keep paying attention to. What's happening there in the bay area lawrence taylor oakland city council member and kisha henderson oakland native and appointee for the reimagining public safety task force. Thank you so very much for both of you for joining us today. I'm meghna chakrabarti.

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"meghna chakrabarti" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts
"Is on point meghna chakrabarti and today. We are listening to sarah hayes. Yes she's a former. Npr correspondent you heard for years reporting from around the world particularly in central asia Cova she said earlier in two thousand and two she left reporting and in and turned to words helping rebuild. Afghanistan founded a couple of nonprofits in afghanistan. In two thousand nine. She went on to serve as a special advisor to commanders of the nato mission in afghanistan generals david mckiernan and stanley mcchrystal also advised then joint chiefs chairman. Admiral admiral mike mullen. She's author of several books including the punishment of virtue inside afghanistan after the taliban and on corruption in america and what is at stake. Sarah i want to spend the last part of the program today talking to you or listening to you about what the twenty year. Us involvement in afghanistan has taught you about this country about the united states. So let's start with the word you used at the top of the show about your disenchantment with america. Tell me more about why you use that word in particular. You know. Make no you asked before. How did afghanistan transform over the ten years that i was on the ground. One of the other distressing things. I saw happening apart from the increase in danger for was there increasing levels of disgust with their own government. Which was the government that we were supporting we. The united states was supporting every way we could. And you know people in the government were shaking afghans down at every street corner. You could not have an interaction with an afghan government official at any level without being shaken down and not politely. It wasn't like look. My salary is really low and i don't have sandals for my daughter. Afghans would have taken the shoes off their own daughter's feet to give police officer. Who said that. No it was humiliating. It was You know it deprived them of dignity. They were paying in money but they were paying indignity And the problem was that. Us officials didn't really see that didn't think it was important. Didn't realize that when people get angry enough when this has happened to them you know several times they wanna take some revenge. It was difficult if you were a young man in kandahar by two thousand and eight nine ten not to join the taliban so after you've been harassed shaken down by the police enough times well. It becomes very tempting to pick up a gun joined the taliban and start shooting. The police and i tried to make this clear to american officials. And as you pointed out. I got fairly high up in the food chain and the reason i did was because These this system was vertically integrated and so they're almost wasn't a small enough fish to you know to get without you know president karzai getting involved to protect the person and that meant that it had to be high levels of the us government. That that responded but more to the point of your question. Here's what i came to understand about afghanistan. And here's what writing on corruption in america taught me about the united states in afghanistan. This corruption as i said was not. Just you know individual You know venal officials. It was a it was a network. it was A vertically integrated meaning money that came from the police was going up the line. All the way to the interior minister protection was coming down the line and it was horizontally integrated in and what i mean by. That is the heads of the implementing partners that were getting. all the development contracts were usually Cousins or brothers in law of the governors who were fearing the contracts in their direction and steering international money in their direction and and you s and other western officials just never examined those connections. They couldn't see that it was one network that was getting all the benefits of our presence whereas afghans sort of carry. You know social network maps around in their heads so they could see who was getting the benefit and that was making them angry And so you know in the international development world. There's this expression fragile or failing states. Surely you've heard people talk about that. You know and and what i would often say is yeah. These states like afghanistan or like certain african countries are central american countries. That we might use that word for or that expression for. They may be failing at being states but they are run by incredibly sophisticated networks. That are in fact quite successful at their own objective. Their objective isn't governing. Their objective is enriching themselves. So who can jump in here for one second for interrupting here but I can't barely contain myself. Who have forgive me. But i i people. There are very smart people who've been asking the question about to ask for for two decades. So i'm not the first but i i hear you say that that there was you observe firsthand on the ground that Before that afghanistan had already endured twenty years of conflict before the us invasion in late. Two thousand one and that there was this collective ptsd which helped inform some of the behaviors that you were seeing and the corruption that you're talking about. We just mentioned how you had the ear for a while of high level nato officials and also high level officials in afghanistan as well but the united states has to take responsibility for what it wrought there over twenty years. Did people listen to you or was it. Just as kind of was it hubris. Was it naievety on the part of american leaders in what was it that led to this blinkered view of what was possible by by dint of a trillion dollar military. There are you hearing me. Yes i am hearing good. So i think it was fear of political risk i think that addressing.

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"meghna chakrabarti" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts
"Said this. I'm so why anyone would think some random source on facebook is better than an entire army of physicians healthcare systems. Doctors nurses researchers. Who all want to do is end this data and then meghna chakrabarti today on point the pandemic in mississippi. And what it'll take to turn it around. And we're going to start today with nick juden state reporter for the mississippi free press. He's joining us from jackson. He's been covering the covert stories since the start of the pandemic and we have links to nick's reporting on point radio dot org nick. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. Also with us. From jackson as well as dr llewellyn woodward vice chancellor at the university of mississippi medical center dr woodward welcome to you as well thank you so dr woodward extra. I'd like to start with you. Because you just heard that clip from thomas dobbs who was standing at the university of mississippi medical center in the field hospital. They're now can you describe when the field hospital when it went up. And and what's going on in there right now. Certainly and i was standing right by dr dobbs when he made the comment that you aired just a few moments ago so there's been a lot of activity here on the campus over the last week and we were able last week to open field hospital in the lower level of garage be which is one of our own campus. Parking garages This field hospital was opened in collaboration. In conjunction with dr dobson. His team at the state department of health with me mo with the governor's office kind of all parties involved with the concept that bringing in this Federal de met team would help us in our Management of the overflow of these patients all across the state hospitals are simply at capacity there. They're honestly at the breaking point and The federal resources have been very welcome. And we're very thankful for them but there is that you you could hear it in dr dobbs voice. There is that underlying sense of frustration and one of the things that he said that day that that we didn't hear on the clip aired was in fact. He said you know this didn't have to happen. We didn't have to be standing here where we are today Well nick come to you in a second but dr woodward when you say hospitals breaking point what does the breaking point look like at the university of mississippi medical center of i mean if you were to walk through the halls of the hospital now what would you see so there are many components of that in in you know when you think about things like a health system will will fail and will you know what do we mean. Those are words that sound dramatic and very dire but what we mean by that is number one that our capacity is exceeded and that has actually been the case now for some weeks. This is not new capacity has been exceeded and you layer on top of that. The capacity as a state has been exceeded. We are now in a systems of care For transport and transfer across the state of the critical care kovic patients that this is a mandated Situation by the state. Health officer. By dr dobbs so the capacity has been exceeded. The workforce is fatigued. The workforce is also experiencing their own Challenges on any given day. We may have fifty nurses who either or sick themselves. They're in quarantine. They have family members that are sick. They have others that they have to care for so the the Fragility of the workforce is something that fluctuates a little bit from day to day today and win. We get in this position where everybody is full. You have hospitals across the state that are putting out messages to their community and saying. Please do not come to our emergency room. The emergency room is overrun Please don't come to the emergency room and you have hospitals where They are having to or considering having to tell ambulances. I cannot take another so so that's kind of what we mean about. Getting to the breaking point where you just can't make do any more and dr woodward. Have you ever seen anything like this in your career in mississippi. This is the worst stop for saying. So nick we turn back. Oh i'm sorry. Doctor i just wanna turn briefly to to nick. Forgive cutting you off there. I'll come back to you. I promise but but but nick can you. Can you give us a picture of sort of the state of the pandemic right now in mississippi. I mean today the the weekend total was seven thousand eight hundred thirty nine new cases. Now that's i believe the highest weekend total we've ever had. And the bottom line is cases turned into hospitalizations turned into a intensive care hospitalizations and deaths. So there's just no sign of peak until we see the transmission slowing and declining the state of the hospitals the state of the schools. None of it is going to improve so right now. we're we're kind of grasping in the dark. We really are an uncharted territory. Uncharted territory. But wh why is it uncharted though. Because i mean this is nationwide. This isn't the first search. This is what the the fourth or even fifth surge that the united states has seen since the start of the pandemic. so can you just briefly. Give me some of the factors that you think have gone into mississippi being per hit particularly hard right now. Delta is fundamentally different. I mean it is so much more infectious. We're seeing this and in terms of why. Mississippi is.

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"meghna chakrabarti" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts
"Is in fact what drives i think New immigrants to work so hard and try to achieve some success in a part of the american dream. I think that is also something that's shared with. All americans going back you know. It could be decades or centuries that we all came from another land with a similar hope in a similar dream of prosperity in the united states because this country is different and my dad thought about about it the same way and i think we continue that on back. He's right on the other side of the break so today you're listening to retired. Colonel alexander vitamin his new book is here right matters american story. We'll be back. This is on point This is on point meghna chakrabarti just a heads up about what we're talking about on tomorrow's show we're gonna talk about the return to school for tens of millions of k. Through twelve students in the united states so teachers. What will it take for you to feel safe about the return to fully in-person school if your school hasn't done that already and parents. How do you feel about that same question. How do you feel about the prospect of not going back to full in person school if that is indeed an uncertainty right now in your district. Can your kids afford to stay out of in-person school any longer. Let us know at six one. Seven three five three zero six eight three six one seven three five three zero six eight three. That's for tomorrow's show today. We are talking with retired lieutenant. Colonel alexander vehement. His new book is here. Right matters american story and we have an excerpt of it at on point radio dot org and if you pick up the book which i certainly hope you do. You'll come across this passage. Where lieutenant colonel admin rights. Many people come to america fleeing poverty and stifled opportunity admirably. There seeking a better chance economically especially for their children but he says it. His family has a different story. He writes my dad. Gave up comfort and career fulfillment in order to escape an arbitrary. Tyrannical government with a pervasive culture of corruption reprisal and falsehood. He fought. He sought a life for his sons. That would be better. Not an economic but in moral terms. Lieutenant colonel edmund. Tell us more about that. I think it's as a student of eurasia in eurasian history in the soviet union I have a pretty strong sense of how difficult life was And how different was from from what we experience here. In the united states where we we have We adhere to western liberal values. We have some principals about freedom of speech. Freedom of our raj practice Your chosen religion all these things that didn't exist offer my dad and it's interesting that i could understand this kind of intellectually. But he lived his experiences. He understood the moral corruption in moral decay. This idea that in communism everybody's equal in the end the labor controls the means of production. That kind of that. That that that catchphrase. That didn't really exist. You still had a series of political elites part communist party members that that profited off of what should have been kind of equally dispersed. It's just a system. That's fundamentally flawed and doesn't really work with the nature of humanity at the moment I don't know if it could ever but certainly not now where there's a drive to enrich profit and so forth. And he understood that. At least in the united states with hard work We would have opportunities that we simply wouldn't have there and it wasn't Improve his own personal life because you sacrificing a lot to get air. It's it was for the sake of his children to give them opportunities to give us opportunities that he came to the united states. Right i mean you share how he had to start from zero. Essentially right coming to the united states in his first job was what physical labor moving boxes at a furniture company. If i remember correct forty seven danger. Forty seven forty seven but then he he. He's a quick study and he took the civil service examined became an engineer. Waterworks engineer in new york and spent the rest of his career in the united states. Doing that i mean it is a true american success story as is borne out in the careers and lives that his children went on to lead as well. I also want to ask you though. You're if i remember this correctly that your father was supporter of president trump. He was And i would say that. This is a strange common feature amongst our refugees that have fled communist regimes. Where the communist or communist regimes are considered far left and There is a rejection of anything that smacks of the left end a pendulum swings the right in a in an unhealthy direction in a direction. That actually isn't true to form with regards to what the right represents oftentimes certainly not the far-right today. And you see this in the russian community the former soviet community you see it in the venezuelan and cuban communities you see Other communities that have rejected communism in such disarray So he was in that regard. You know he's been. He had been a republican for for his entire life here in the united states and he was fooled by by donald trump which is strange to say because we all grew up in new york we knew. Donald trump is a fixture kind of as a corrupt bad actor. Double-dealing unscrupulous and so forth. But still kind of bought into this idea of not not a dc creature. That could shake things up. Maybe a Institutes of positive changes in that all came crashing down of course It's real donald trump's kind of Failures to lead this country into divide this country and as well as a personal attack on me.

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"meghna chakrabarti" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts
"On point. I'm meghna chakrabarti. And today we are talking about amazon and surveillance. It's part seven of our ongoing series about amazon recalling the prime effect where we're taking a look at how amazon is changing the way we shop work and live and yes. We are talking about all the data. That amazon is collecting about you. Not just your online shopping habits. But the data that you're pouring into amazon servers if you've got an alexa enabled device in your home if you've got a ring home security doorbell at your front door. And what about what the Amazon trucks are collecting as they drive through your neighborhoods every day so hop on twitter facebook where at on point radio and let us know what your concerns are about amazon's ability to collect both a physical and digital data about you what advantages you see this. What is the good that could come out of this. And i'm curious to know what folks think about how we balance the concerns about negative uses of this mass corporate surveillance how we balance that against what could come out of it from a positive aspect as their regulatory path. You see ahead of us again. We're at one point. Radio and twitter. Facebook i'm joined today by remeasuring yvonne from ucla and john kelly from the electronic frontier foundation and gentlemen. We've rebe already been receiving a lot of feedback from listeners about surveillance and amazon's so just listened to on point listener. Peter who called us from pasadena california and he says he's worried about how is amazon devices are in their increasing society's willingness to sacrifice privacy these things like the ring and these front door cameras Are perpetuating something. That is actually a felony in california. You cannot record anyone unless you have their permission before you do it. And it's becoming normalized that those kinds of cameras and also you know cell phones. You can record anybody in your brother. I wish it would stop. That's peter from pasadena california. John kelly help us understand this year. Because i imagined were entering quite a legal gray area is it a felon. Are these ring cameras actually committing felony. If they're on the doors of california homeowners it's not a felony to have a security camera on your property. That's looking at what you're doing. But i believe that listener is talking about an effect that is a sort of creeping into from normal things like when we started off with cameras being a thing about two hundred years ago we as society made a bunch of decisions and one of those decisions was the you could take a picture of say. You know a street or apart and that you didn't have to get the permission of every single person who is in the frame manners different thing than legal requirement. But you can take a picture of of where you are and it is said that when someone walks down the street because we all have in often often more than one camera on us that you could take a picture of something and it's like every city block that you walk between ten to fifteen times you'll be in some camera we've seen this in a bunch of newish things in a bunch of of significant events that happen. I mean poor example number of years ago when there was the boston marathon bomber combination of security video. Things that people had been taking just as they were doing allowed within a couple of days analysis of what went on sometime later there was an airplane crash at san francisco airport and it turned out that somebody simply happened to be recording video at the pine. The point was descending so there was a live cell phone video from across the bay but it was nonetheless video. That just happened to be there and as these things go on as you start seeing that anybody can take a picture then you have things like cameras that are on fixed. Locations will light utility poles light. People's houses Those have a certain limited purpose but they get turned into something by having Artificial intelligence looking at them all the time it used to be the tapes would be on sort of a loop and every day or two or three or even month. The tapes would be rewritten. Now you have real time analysis of of these things that is robots surveillance of many cameras across the world and ask more of this goes on and more analysis and on top of the analysis then connection into police departments through apps that request that somebody sends something it turns from something that is normally to something that is genuinely creepy and into illegal. Raiso right okay. So there's a lot to dig into their. I do have to note that we're were show. That's based out of out of boston. When you mentioned the the boston marathon bombing one wonders how the investigation might have been different today than it was when the bombing happened because yes there were lots of cameras on the streets of of the marathon that were able to identify the figures of the of the bombers themselves when they placed those terrible backpacks on boylston. She in boston but it it didn't help them find them to that. Technology at that time did not help them find these guys and ultimately one of them died in a shootout and the other was found. Virtually by accident after a massive twenty four hour lockdown of the greater boston area and the huge amounts of law enforcement crawling all over. They still couldn't find him. So so one wonders how it would have been different today and so with that thought of us and let me turn back to you here because because i think what the important thing that john is getting at is how how things become slowly normalized. So i'd like to push that a little bit further with respect to to amazon here and talk about how this is speculation at this point but what might the future look like right with with amazon's ability to collect all this digital information and then also the kinds of physical information that we're talking about. Let's just take the cameras example that the john was mentioning. I can is it. Is it out of the realm of possibility to imagine a future in which amazon through the combination of of video surveillance and ai and facial recognition could track me.

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"meghna chakrabarti" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts
"Is not enough to stop the spread of information that is not how online chaos confuses the mind imran ahmed as we're living in a world where small seeds of doubt can overwhelm person's willingness to believe verifiable information a few people will have just thought crumbs. Well if i get the vaccine maybe i'll become magnetic are also non falsifiable because they have no way of checking that unless they start finding people who've been vaccinated a sticking keys to them and saying look and makes them magnetic and that is what makes people especially vulnerable to disinformation in a pandemic often. It said the conspiracy theories have other core kernel of truth. That's not true every conspiracy theory and it's hawk contains perfect. They can give you answers there for two things. That fact based evidence science can often struggle to because it's trying to work out what is going on and so in a moment of great anxiety you conspiracy theories off. So because that they're not rooted in truth they can fill the gap faster than truth count and they are filling that gap with high speed right now in march almonds group. The center for countering digital hate published a report showing that just twelve accounts. Just twelve are behind sixty. Five percent of all vac. Anti vaccine disinformation proliferating on social media. Most of them are still there. I'm meghna chakrabarti today on point. We're going to talk about the so-called disinformation doesn't and to help us do that. John gregory.

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"meghna chakrabarti" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts
"So i just wanna start with a very basic question to both of you. Simone biles yes has won the bronze-medal in the balance beam which is actually an even greater triumph for her. Now considering how the past week had gone for her but professor carter friend zeke. When biles. I made that announcement of withdrawing from the team competition. I just was wondering what was your first reaction. How did you feel about that. What did you think was going on. My initial reaction was of concern. And while i don't know byles you know hearing that For any athlete they withdrew Were removed from lineup. Or remove themselves made me think that she had perhaps encourage some sort of physical injury in the qualifying rounds or because of the pandemic perhaps contracted cobra as we've seen many of some of our athletes not only from the us but other countries succumb to that Then when she continued to share that she would not be competing in those events she qualified for and that it was not due to anything. Physical in real concern began to overcome me and initial thoughts of mental health issues to pass sixteen months with those respective sort of restrictive parameters The combination of postponement of the olympic games wondering what it must mean to be in the spotlight to as i reviewed all her sponsorship ads but as well reflecting on what she may be navigating in the aftermath of the sexual abuse case that she was part of so things became of greater concern and really just just hoping and wishing her well through that process over the next few days

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"meghna chakrabarti" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts
"Technology officer at flex which provides on demand warehousing and fulfillment services and logistics as. Well dave. Welcome to on point magna. Hi karen thanks for having me so first of all. Tell me when you started at amazon Let me just put it this way. Do you have experience. Actually working in amazon's fulfillment centers. Actually my i wasn't paid to work in the fulfillment centers. But i think the third week i was employed. I got an email from the cfo as we all that said. What are you doing right now. And if it's not more important than delighting our customers stop what you're doing and drive to the warehouse. And i was watching. Buffy the vampire slayer and so i watched the last six minutes of it and i drove to the warehouse and i spent the next three weeks working midnight to eight. Am sorting packages as they came down the line. Very interesting experience interesting. Why because you got to see a completely different part of The the company and you know this was twenty years ago. Twenty one years ago And it actually set me up to work. To build new warehouses to run the fulfillment center systems and to have empathy for what the folks in the warehouse were doing because working for eight hours on your feet is is a hard job. So how has amazon changed for. Its hourly workforce in the years since you had that experience. Because i'll just quote a line from karen story because she's she writes that amazon. Founder bezos had pioneered new ways of massive managing people through technology relying on a maze of systems. That minimized human contact to grow unconstrained. Now that growth has definitely happened. Has amazon kept up in. Its sophistication in managing. The people relies on for growth amazon. A is continuously scaling to meet the next christmas peak or the next holiday peak. We woke up on january second and started planning for the next holiday peak and to do that without systems and without robots would've been undoable and and so. Then what would you say is where amazon's corporate or culture is headed when it comes to managing these hourly workers. I would call it a computer assistant management and so you do have people managers in the warehouse and many of them are Many of them this this could be their first job and then as they work up in the ranks the got more experience. And so you have those folks who are managing the people but they are assisted by software. That amazon's built okay. Well so let's talk a little bit more on your personal experience. There as an amazon employees yourself all the way to becoming an executive over some nineteen years. How did you see amazon. Change beside all that spectacular growth and remained the same over that time or remain the same over that time. I think there was actually Between nineteen ninety eight today a lot a lot more similarities than differences. You know we have the leadership prints for now though they have the leadership principles and that was kind of a roadmap on what we expect from people and managers came and Vp's game but the leadership principles stayed in the processes around Developing people around those leadership principles have saved the same one example was there was a vp. Who left i think in two thousand and four and came back in two thousand seven and i said man it must be must be completely different. you've been gone for so long. He said no. It's all kind of the same you know we are. We are making the impossible possible. We are scaling. The company we building systems and The culture and the a pace in the things that we did to scale company didn't change very much. Didn't change very much. Okay karen you want to respond to that. Yeah no i think davis remember. My first started reporting on amazon. I kept hearing about these leadership principles. And i'm like yeah. Whatever you hear all this corporate speak. And i don't think i fully it took it took a little bit to realize this is like a real deal. People talk about these like the ten commandments. But day in day out as part of your life there and it has been out for so long. It's how you evaluated. Tell you are hired and it really does create clarity on what is valued and how to operate. And there's no doubt that that is part of amazon special sauce but it's part of how you're evaluated and how you're hired if you're working in amazon's corporate yes. Yeah there's not interviews if your hourly down it's does computer right so it's two very different worlds at amazon as an employee at amazon depending on where you are and who you are so when we come back we're going to talk more about that corporate culture and the corporate employees and how they're having an impact on the rest of the american forces. Well we'll be back. This is this is on point. I'm meghna chakrabarti episode. Six of our series on amazon prime effect and today. We're talking about amazon. And this relationship with its workforce more than one point three million people world wide. I'm joined today by dave glick. He's a former amazon. Vp and currently with the logistics company flex and karen. Wise is with us as well. She's reported extensively on the company's labor practices and work culture as technology correspondent for the new york times and she's with us from seattle. Now we have been talking about. The management practices and challenges that amazon has regarding its vast hourly workforce. Let's focus a little bit more about the people they hire into the corporate ranks and now karen. We spoke with someone that you reported on last spring. Merrin kosta who worked for the company for fifteen years and she told us her story as well. So let's go back to. When she started at amazon in two thousand. Two jack was just walking the floor. And you can bump and tim hallway and you could hear his laugh from five rooms down and you know. It was so exciting to be at amazon in those early years. Let's just like everything was new. We just nobody knew it was gonna work or not. You know the big challenges are still yet to be solved. You're not you're not tweaking dials. You're you're digging trenches. you know. It's the big work and then as essex grew it definitely became Warren more.

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"This is on point. I'm meghna chakrabarti and this was last summer in portland oregon following the murder of george. Floyd protesters took to the streets of portland for more than one hundred consecutive days then president. Donald trump deployed federal law enforcement to the city to protect the boarded up. Marco hatfield federal courthouse which along with other federal buildings suffered millions of dollars in damages night after night. Officers fired. Tear gas on protesters. Dmitri hester solid all. I definitely think about the violence. I actually got shot. Will fifteen rubber bullets last year and got arrested. Dmitri is a founder of the group. Mom's united for black lives fight for our lives forever. People were coming down here just for the popularity desk for the cloud just for to drop their cash apps and say they're filming win they're supposed to be protecting our lives and fighting for our lives. They wasn't the all for the publicity because look at how many people was looking at portland and what was going on at the height of the protests. Hundreds of diverse portlanders marched in the streets daily. Dmitri says the kovic pandemic helped expose racial injustice across the nation and in portland. It opened people's eyes. She says but now that the pandemic restrictions are being lifted. Dimitriadis attitudes shifting. Now it's.

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"President biden was in cincinnati last week at a town hall hosted by cnn and as the cova delta variant surges in many parts of the country he had reassuring words for americans who have already had their vaccines antivirus including the delta virus which is much more transmissible and more deadly in terms of non unvaccinated people the via the various shots. That people are getting now. Cover that you're okay. You're not gonna you're not gonna get covert if you have these vaccinations but that's not one hundred percent true. This is on point. I'm meghna chakrabarti by now. You've probably heard of the growing number of so called breakthrough cases of co bid people who are fully vaccinated but still getting sick at a wedding. In oklahoma fifteen vaccinated people came down with kobe stories about clusters of fully vaccinated teammates on professional sports teams and even in the white house itself. People getting sick there today. We wanna push beyond those frightening headlines and to the facts about breakthrough cases facts. Such as this breakthrough cases are still tiny percentage of all cova cases. The cdc estimated that as of july nineteenth there were only five thousand nine hundred fourteen cases of fully vaccinated people who were hospitalized or died from kobe. Nineteen that's out of one hundred. Sixty one million fully vaccinated americans or zero point. Zero zero zero zero three six percent. So are we saying that. Breakthrough co bid isn't an issue either. No not exactly. The point actually is a pandemic and pandemic control our dynamic processes breakthrough cases are adding another dimension to that dynamic. So we're going to try to understand. Exactly what dimension is what those breakthrough cases are why they happen. And most importantly how. These so-called breakthroughs might inform larger public health efforts to get the pandemic fully under control so hop on social media twitter and facebook. And send us your questions about breakthrough kobe. We're at on point radio..

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"From wb are boston. I'm meghna chakrabarti. And this is on point sixteen year old gracie cunningham had questions about math. Her questions about homework. They were actually far more fundamental than that greasy. Wanted to know what math really is so. She took to talk for answers. I was just doing my makeup for work. And i just wanted to tell you guys about how i don't think math is real and i know that like it's real because we all like school or whatever but who came up with this concept and your various but how. How did you come up with this. He was living in the. I don't know whenever he was living. But it was not now where you can like have technology and stuff you know like he didn't even have plumbing q. The internet trolls in their customary spasm of immaturity branded gracie math girl and a mockery piled on so gracie made a follow up in which she says she tried to outsmart. My first question is how did people know what they were looking for when they started theorizing about formulas. because i wouldn't know what to look for if i'm making up math question number two once. They did find these formulas. How did they know that they were right. Because cow number three. Why is everyone being really into me on twitter greasy. My answer to that is because twitter is a terrible place now. Here's the thing there are people out there who have real answers to greece's questions because they're real mathematicians one of them joins us now eugenia chang. She's a mathematician. A concert pianist an author in her latest book is x. plus y. a. mathematicians manifesto for rethinking gender and. We have an excerpt of it at on point. Radio dot org eugenia. Welcome to point. Thank you so much for having me now. You know. I'm looking at your website eugenia. And there's a beautiful multi page document. Where you list all of gracie's questions and you give her thoughtful. Mathematically based answers. And i'm actually i. I'm curious to hear what what one of your answers already gracie had asked how people know what they were looking for when they started about formulas and this is actually one of the. I think the fundamental questions of how do mathematical proofs get developed. So how did you answer. Answer gracie's question well. The first thing was to empathize with gracie. Because whenever we're teaching math or talking to anyone it's so important to understand where that person is coming from by fully sympathize with Curiosity questions and her belly rail frustration honestly especially in the first video because these are really important questions and they're rarely addressed in standard math education. And so i think it's very understandable. But she would feel frustrated. Wants to know those answers. Well i have been here. Because you mentioned rec- mentioned patheticness for example right. And i visited the greek island. Ripa live once and there's a there's actually a statue to him and it's a statue protagoras standing with his hand straight up in the air and there's an angle coming down from his finger. I mean it's a. It's a rendering of a squared plus. B squared equals c squared. Right and i actually. At that moment. I thought what a remarkable discovery i'm i had the same question gracie did where do where do mathematicians even begin with kind of inquiry and the thing is that when marcus presented as a finished fact something. That is a bunch of rules that you're supposed to learn. It can appear that it has just descended out of nowhere like maybe an alien spaceship dropped is on top of your head and that is very baffling whereas for me. Math comes from wanting to understand things more efficiently. And i often say this that it comes from being lazy but if you see the same thing happening over and over again you don't want to keep redoing it. You want some way to do it. One time and then never have to think about it again and i i liken it to something like inventing the dishwasher where i like to imagine and i don't know quite how the dishwasher was invented. I like to imagine that someone just got really fed up with washing dishes. And for okay. I'm gonna make a machine that will do this for me so that i can use my human brain to do something more interesting. And that's for me. The starting point of mathematics and of over formula. It's to say something keeps happening over and over again. I don't want to have to keep doing it over and over again. That's interesting so i'm going to invest the time to make some theory. That will do many things for me. So that i can move onto something else and that's where it comes from you can't we're not in the same place eugenia so you can't see me smile right now because the thought that he's great discoveries of mathematics these these these which help us fully fundamentally understand world or acts of The intellectual laziness. Like i just. It's a different way of thinking about matheny that i ever had. But but what you're saying here though and we'll get to. How gender works. Its way into all of this is. Is that fundamentally. What is it that mathematics hopes us do because i think that's one of the things that gracie was trying to get to in her line of inquiry right and one of the reasons it such a thorny question is because i think that deep down it does the opposite of what many people feel that. It does in math classes because unfortunately so many people's experiences math close is that it's very pointless and painful and that the question is that to do nothing but inflict pain on poor young people and i just like to say right up front that i'm not blaming the teachers for this at all but because the teachers are constrained by the ridiculous standards imposed on them by completely pointless in my opinion standardized tests. And when they're judged. By how. Well darren students do in the standardized tests. Then of course they have to try and just get people to do veteran standardized tests. So just like to say. I'm not. I'm definitely not blaming teachers however math is really to help us. It's to help us understand things and to to help us use our brains more efficiently and powerfully because of the wall around us is a very complicated place and poor. Little brains are finite and so there are basically two ways we can understand the world better we can just willfully ignore some aspects of it and unfortunately that's what many people do. But i understand why they do it. Because we're trying to simplify the world to understand it but i think that a better way to do it is to make connections between different parts of the world so we can sport similarities between different situations. Say oh actually this situation and this album situation have something in common and therefore we can take that thing. That's in common and studied that quite self that understanding both of those situations at the same time masters. Yeah i mean i. I've seen in my own families. Math loving folks when they you know. There's almost that smile. That that that the grace's their face when they when they see sort of a new pattern right because that's the thing that that math helps us understand these these patterns as they move through through the world and it's almost like revelations the word i keep coming up with so that's the beauty. That's the beauty mathematics. But there's something not so beautiful here. In what in terms of how. The internet responded to gracie's questions. Okay right because she asked there she asked. Why are people being so mean to me and this is what we really wanna talk with you about because you are a woman. You are a woman in mathematics so when she asked when she greasy asked that question first of all how did that strike you it really resonated with me and i was very touched by the fact that she asked it with such good humour and she was still smiling and i hope she's all right because the amount of attention she received as far beyond what she was expecting and she didn't offer that attention now when some of us some of us put ourselves in the public eye deliberately When i first decided to put myself in public it was a very big decision. Because i knew that people were going to be horrible to me unfortunately and i decided to take on because i decided that i could do something helpful for the world by putting myself that i just decided to accept the negative things were going to happen and so when when gracie said that i wanted to try and say something positive to help outweigh the negative things that.

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"I'm kimberly atkins store in for meghna chakrabarti and this is on point. Scientists are alarmed and baffled over the past few months songbirds in eastern united states. Have been dying of a mysterious illness. It affects at least a dozen bird species in a an a number of birds. Killed so far is described as countless jennifer tucson. Is the chief. Animal control is chief of animal control in arlington virginia. She dealt with some of the very first calls of sick and dying birds jennifer. Thank you for joining us on point. Hi kim thank you so much for having me so tell us what it was like. What was the first signs that you saw of something being wrong. Yes they're back on. May eighteenth in arlington virginia. We began receiving calls from members of the public that they were finding blue jays crackles on the ground in their yards in distress. When officers began to respond we quickly realized that something was amiss. This was a typical injuries. And this was outside of the normal for those species as well and what did what was wrong. What was What were the signs in these bluejays and crackles that something was wrong. Yes we were finding them on the ground in good weight meaning that parents were still carrying for them avidly. When songbirds fledge from the nest they fall to the ground and spend a period of time on the ground building up the shoulder strength to fly so they were in good body weight but they could not see. We had ocular discharged crossing around the eyes and the start. Neurological symptoms They were doing head ticks. Some of them had their heads to the ground. While standing a very atypical thing to see in a bird and they were just obviously unwell and so how did you begin to realize that this was a broader problem so back on the eighteenth one phone call by the end of the day became fifteen to twenty That pretty quickly told us that something was amiss. We immediately reached out to state. Biologists and the state wildlife veterinarian here in virginia and began speaking with them about some of the issues. We were seeing sending photos and videos And we all quickly determined that. This was something that needed to be monitored before we knew it. This became more of a full-blown issue throughout the region and lasted now for about two months. So we have seen diseases affect birds before in the past in past years. What is different about this particular illness in and talk about how you came to realize that this was something different absolutely so i've experienced issues with west nile for instance Showing signs of symptoms in birds. I've never experienced the volume of ill patients coming in at the volume of what appeared to be relatively decently healthy songbirds founding. Found deceased in yards again with these ocular issues. The discharge the crusting in general blindness and additionally. It it it kind of snowballed quickly normally at the start of an illness. You get kind of a slow increase to appeak and this kind of felt like onset overnight. Sort of describe him in. You've you've been at ala for a long time. You've worked with animals and cared for them. What was it like realizing. Oh my goodness this is something that is affecting birds here. This could be something very serious. Yes within about three or four days. All of the rehab irs who specialize in treating migratory birds and very advanced wildlife centres became overrun with these patients. They weren't These patients the birds are not responding to stereotypical Medications that would be provided for things like Finch conjuncture this and other issues. That can crop up in birds and so those professionals the rehab centers began Declining patients so they were suggesting that the birds were euthanized on intake That doesn't seem like that. Big of an issue except for one year suddenly dealing with twenty birds. Day coming in We we immediately realized that that this was going to be a heartbreaking event. So talk about those decisions. I mean that you have to make you are and people may not realize the the work that you and others do too often treat bird. Try to figure out what's going on. Treat them so that they can be returned to the wild but this was this was very different correct. Standard patients coming in this time of year for birds. You know we get little guys like themselves into trouble. They're very successful in rehab and they can be re released again. Conservation is our number one goal So when you when you going from that kind of role to suddenly having to euthanize five or six birds at a time it. It immediately feels devastating. Not only as an agency but as an officer. So is there any indication of what might be causing this jennifer. I know some people have theorized that it has to do with the cicadas. That descended upon this region This year do you have any in. We'll talk more about that later as well. But you have any indication of what might be causing this. This is spread from bird to bird. Is there another cause yes. We're still trying to figure all of that out. We are still tending sending out. Thanks for testing. As recently as two days ago Staying in contact with all the organizations who are now lending hand to the region and state in trying to determine through concrete scientific testing. What this issue was the good thing is. We know what it isn't We've ruled out a lot of the more I would say scary illnesses illnesses. That verbal to people We've ruled out some of the the players that a lot of people had speculated. It was at the start I will say it. We saw the onset very similar league to the start of cicadas in our region and we are starting to see drop-offs in patients coming in as catos are starting to lessen in our region. But i think we know that we can never assume that because something happened concurrently that there is that inherent connection. I know that a lot of agencies are very determined in finding out why this occurred. Yeah so we've gotten a lot of Responses from our listeners to the show amy called us from greenfield massachusetts and she said that we need to be more thoughtful when using pesticides anyone who is responsible for landscaping who has decision making role in. What happens on their own their own property commercial property municipal property etcetera Can make wise choices about the Use of herbicides and pesticides and looking at what the impact is on birds and in fact other other pollinators since bees are in trouble twos. We know jennifer in your experience could pesticides be one of the issues at play here. Yeah so as you mentioned at the start of the of the program. Today there are a lot of things affecting birds and we are seeing national decreases. Any birds are federally protected. For a reason they are national treasure and when they spend their part of the year with each of us because a lot of them kind of move through our areas It is really our responsibility to take care of them. So things like not spraying pesticides. Insuring your appropriately cleaning your bird. Feeders regularly because bird feeders can be away that birds spread illnesses to each other it has not been definitively connected to this incident but we did put that messaging outright away. Please take down bird feeders and clean out in clear. Bird baths There's lots of wave that ways that we can individually foster in help our population and talk a little bit more about that because i don't That this is something. I was aware about in my house. We were considering getting a bird feeder. And i'm learning a lot about this show. People want to feed birds. Birds eat the food. What is it about bird. Feeders that can be dangerous. Yes oh bird feeders. They do come. A lot of different species of birds come to the feeders to feed on their certain times of years. Where the bird. The birds need the feeders. Maybe more than others It's a great pastime as well. It's a great way to enjoy such a lovely national national resource Watching the birds. Engage your children.

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"A lot of the other ones maybe too slowly but i think in good faith are now looking for ways to change their policies and especially their platform designs in ways. That will be more pro social and will reward sharing stuff. That's true instead of stuff. That's false that will try to root out the fake identities the bots in the trolls. And i'm especially interested in facebook's oversight board which is kind of a supreme court that's trying to set accountable rules for how people behave on facebook and social media. That's how we got out of this one hundred years ago We set up rules of the road. We had institutions in journalism and elsewhere. That said you know what. Let's have ethics codes. let's have guidelines. Let's be transparent. Let's set expectations for how you behavior and overtime. That actually worked because it created an environment people wanted to be a did not feel manipulated by if anything works. It's going to be that. So i see these. Companies as potential allies that have to be drawn even deeper into the process of reform. If an only facebook uses the judgment of the oversight board as precedent setting and to end would apply them off facebook rather than the case by case basis basis. Which is seems to me. They're approaching this with. I mean i. Maybe i should have you back to the debate. The oversight board here but with that. I'm so afraid that we've we've run out of time. The new book is called the constitution of knowledge and defense. Truth we've got an excerpt of it at on point radio dot org jonathan row. It's been a great pleasure to speak with you. Thank you so much for coming on the show. I enjoyed it so much. And i'd be happy to come back anytime. I'm meghna chakrabarti. This is on point.

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"Saying why biden get this done well. Because biden only has a majority of effectively four votes in the house in tien senate with two members of the senate who vote more of my republicans back khoa arizonans who placed their hopes in cinema are mad. They call her quote missing in action when she didn't show up for vote on forming a commission to investigate the january six insurrection on congress former supporters supporters showed up outside her phoenix office in protest. Just as she would have once done. We can't paid door to door for her. That i won't do it again. I'm meghna chakrabarti and this is on point. And today we're going to look even more deeply into that long journey to understand the past the present and the current politics of arizona. Senator kyrsten cinema and joining me to do that. Is ron hansen. he's with us from phoenix. He congress and state politics for the arizona republic and easy central. Also co host of the podcast. The gaggle ron welcome to you. Thanks for having me so first of all let me tell you. The gaggle podcast is excellent. So anyone who's really interested in in listening to more detail about arizona politics. I'm gonna point you to ron's a to ron's podcast the gaggle it's very very well done ron But but first and foremost a want to play a moment from Cinemas later time in the arizona state house. This is about two thousand ten and back then. kirstin cinema was far more explicitly progressive because for example Arizona had just passed. What was then. The country's most restrictive anti immigrant law. This is two thousand ten and she spoke out about it here. She was at the net roots. Nation conference in las vegas On the radio show the uptake for people looking inside for outside into arizona. We look and see this immigration. Got past say how the heck did that happen. Yeah well the first thing. I think that folk should know is that this is not new. This is not a surprise. This growing anti immigrant sentiment has been A strategy on the part of the right for many years in arizona. And i guess my message to folks around the nation would be to pay attention to what's happening in your state look at the messaging. That's being used and be careful because if your land on the job then your state could turn into arizona. Pretty quickly ron hansen. How much of the senator kirsten cinema of twenty twenty one do you recognize in that state legislator from two thousand ten. That's a really good question. And it's a tough one to answer. there's a lot about her that i recognize. There's also a very critical elements of what is happening in washington that really sort of runs afoul of her earlier years in the legislature And that moment that you just isolated is sort of a part of when pivot with happening on issues that being handled at the state level but had clearly of federal nexus to them as well so it is a tough thing to reconcile. Especially you don't know the fuller story. Okay so let's look back a couple of years prior to two thousand ten then to start flushing out that fuller story. How would you describe what kind of state legislator kirstin cinema was in the state house. Yeah you know. If i could even go back a little bit earlier than that. She ran in two thousand two for the arizona and lost. She was aligned with the green party at the time and was a vocal member of the antiwar movement here in arizona During the bush era. And so when she gets to the legislature she really had sort of Created a body of support Among the very progressive community in arizona touches it was at that time and found herself in a legislature that has been Two day pretty well dominated by republicans. So she was in some ways Notable just by Her background walking into place and By the time she left. I think she was seen somebody who was Interested in crafty deals to make You know legislation. That could work. It's worth noting. Though they didn't arizona the legislature really never accepted much democratic input. And so you know. Democrats were always sort of shunted to the back. And and just sort of watched their their legislative goals crumble in a gop controlled House and senate so she was trying to work productively with people in the very very limited space where it was permitted okay. So let's talk more about that but just to to give listeners. Some some dates here to to frame. This conversation kirstin cinema. Oh was first elected to the arizona house of representatives in two thousand five. She served six years there and then was elected to the arizona. State senate and served from two thousand eleven. Two thousand twelve then moved to the united states. Congress i as a house member and now of course as a senator here so we've got quite a bit of time to look back on in terms of her political career but but regarding those early years in in the house at two thousand five to two thousand eleven period in arizona. Ron you just said that Democrats really weren't given much traction In republican controlled state house. So she and yet you said. She tried to to work with with arizona republicans. I mean tell me more about that where she more explicitly progressive explicitly democratic but still tried to find common ground. I think that's always been a through line for her as she. There is this search for common ground. She especially in her later. Years in the state house was Trying to work with Person by the name of russell pearce who your listeners may be familiar with. He's the one who was associated with a number of different immigration restrictions enacted at the state level Most most notably with senate bill ten seventy Which wasn't immigration enforcement law that went to the supreme court She would not in favor of ten seventy but she did try and find some common ground with peers and that was something that was in irritant to her progressive supporters. Even then there was sort of some depth made you even legitimize Working with someone as View is so hostile to some of the folks who are the bedrock of your democratic base. And you know this is something that i think was understood to be at least Somewhat political in its nature that she wanted to be able to Craft in image. That showed her as not just the person who was the antiwar activist back in the day. But someone who is a productive legislator willing to work with anybody from the start okay interesting so we're gonna come back to this in a second but i wonder if we can just spend a minute ron and have you help us understand. Sort of who. She is as a person now. I want to know that. I am always extremely cautious in trying to Measure anything about a person by you know how they present themselves through dress etc especially when it comes to women. I think there's too much attention paid to that but it should be noted that lots of people look at Kirstin cinema as sort of public presentation and want a little bit more about you know about the character of of the woman behind it. So can you tell us a little bit about that. Yeah and she really is an interesting person because there are some interesting paradoxes. That we've seen in washington the sort of I think amplify some of the questions that people have about her here in arizona and have throughout the year she was born in nineteen. Seventy six in tucson. Her parents divorced when she was a child and her mother moved. Hearner's that brings to the florida panhandle for few years. That twin in the mid nineteen eighties famously spent three years living out of An abandoned gas station She graduated from high school early and with honors. She won a scholarship to brigham..

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"I'm meghna chakrabarti. And today we are talking about the remarkable shareholders meeting for exxon mobil. And it's not necessarily the meeting that deserves our focus but the change on the board of directors for exxon where a group has managed to put several new board members on whose focus is in transfer may transforming one of the world's largest energy companies with a mind towards a climate change future. Charlie penner joins us. He's a member of the hedge fund. Engine number one which was behind this. Change and asia. Mess tagging joins us as well. She's the portfolio manager for calstrs. The california state teachers retirement system one of the huge pension funds that through. Its vote behind this. Change at exxon. Charlie penner just two two quick questions. It's not just you know sort of people who are focused on climate that you put forward on on this slate. Here they were. They weren't necessarily activists themselves. As i said earlier you were also looking for leadership with experience in the sector. So can you tell us just quickly about A couple of the board members that that did make it onto the board All four of them are some amazing people. I've ever met in my life. And they're all willing to do this. Basically just because they thought they could help and these where people who could you know pretty much anything that you right now who've been voted and we've still got our fingers crossed for the third. Uh i is great goff former. Co endeavor as good of credentials as you can get in the oil and gas industry and we feel like You know it's important that the business be run well so they can invest in the future And obviously you need to be able to have things going well to be able to think strategically about long term. I think greg's really important to be helpful to the board there Kaisa high hollow one of the most impressive people i've ever met in my life. She did a transformation with gas company from the inside called estee She with an initial twenty five million dollar investment Bill what is today. The largest renewable diesel jet fuel business in the world created about thirty five billion dollars in market cap accounts for today about ninety percent of that company's profits And you know she. She did it with that. Company's existing resources and skill set so not to say that exxon necessarily would do the same thing although they've been trying to build the bio fuels business for about ten years now without any success but that type of you know understanding we think is so transferable to again helping the board oversee management whose responsibility to come up with these ideas and third. We've got our fingers crossed for Andy cars ner Brings the regular experience that that. I was talking about but also Is one of the leading folks in silicon valley on issues like carbon capture and smart grids. Which will be hugely important for countries like india and things as they figure out what path they take on the energy transition The intersection of ai machine learning and natural resource development. He does all that today. Leading strategy at x. formerly known as google which is the moonshot a laboratory of alphabet so none of those people will be recreating what they've done in the past but they obviously have. We think highly transferable skill sets. That can help backs on as it undertakes. You know the biggest challenge in business world today was just figuring out how to move a company like that gradually into the future now. A exxon spent tens of millions of dollars trying to try to thwart this effort. Obviously it didn't police succeed. So charlie does engine number one have its eye on other companies. Next who do who.

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"Meghna Chakrabarti today on point Major League Baseball's great about face and its embrace of the billion dollar American sports betting industry will it's sully the game or could it save it? Stay with us. Live from NPR news. I'm Jack Spear. Wasn't invited met today with South Korean President Moon Jae in saying both countries remain deeply concerned about North Korea Buy Knossos Federal employees new special envoy to the region to help refocus efforts on President Pignon to abandon its nuclear weapons program. I'm saying total denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula remains the U. S goal by and also addressed the cease fire between Israel and the Moss militia, saying there's no shift in US policy toward Israel, but stressing the violence needs to stop. I also indicated to the Israelis and I thought it was very important. That they stop in Jerusalem, this inter communal fighting that is by extremes on both sides. It has to end it has to end by and said he's told the Palestinian Authority the U. S. Is going to make a security commitment to the West Bank as well as an economic commitment. Minnesota's attorney general said today he is taking over the prosecution of a white former police officer charged with second degree manslaughter in the shooting death of a black man during a traffic stop. Is Matt, seven of Minnesota. Public Radio reports is still not clear. 48 Road Kimberly Potter will face more serious charges. Brooklyn Center police officer Kimberly Potter's shot and killed 20 year old Dante right April 11th as he tried to flee from a traffic stop. Water and another officer had attempted to arrest right for an outstanding firearms warrant when she apparently mixed up her Taser and handgun, a county prosecutor charged Potter with manslaughter but rights, family and racial justice activists here have been demanding murder charges, which carry a longer sentence. Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison is taking over the case. But he did not say if he plans to upgrade the charges. Ellison's office prosecuted former Minneapolis police officer Derek Showman who was convicted of murder for killing George Floyd. For NPR News. I'm maths epic in Saint Paul and FBI employee has been charged with the illegally keeping classified national security documents at her home. NPR's Ryan Lucas reports materials included information about national security investigations and terrorist groups. Kendrick Kingsbury of Dodge City, Kansas, has been indicted on two counts for allegedly retaining national defense information without authorization. Kingsbury worked as an intelligence analyst in the FBI's Kansas City division for more than a decade. Over that time, she worked on drug trafficking, violent crime, counterintelligence and other issues. According to the indictment from 2004, the late 2017 Kingsbury improperly took classified documents to her home and kept in there. The items included documents on national security investigations, intelligence gaps and U. S efforts together intelligence on terrorist groups. Prosecutors say Kingsbury had no need to know most of the information in the materials. Brian Lucas NPR NEWS Washington stocks to give up their earlier gains to close on a mixed note. Today, the Dow was up 123 points. However, the NASDAQ fell 64 points. S and P 500 ended the session down three points. You're listening to NPR this he is 19.9 W bur on John Karr Polio in Boston. There were two changes coming to the Corona virus Vaccination program in Massachusetts next week, the state will end its pre registration system that allows people to sign up for a shot and then be notified when there's an appointment available. State says everyone who used the system will be offered an appointment by Memorial Day. And starting Monday, the state will expand the eligibility for a system that offers vaccinations at home to people who are homebound. The expanded eligibility means anyone who was unable to get the vaccine at a site. And sign up through a dedicated phone number to get one in their home. As the Corona virus pandemic recedes. More people are heading back to work. The latest employment numbers show the state added 5100 jobs last month and the overall jobless rate dropped to 6.5%. Here's WB wars. Steve Brown governor, Baker says the state will do all it can to help those looking for work. Find it, he says. It's now easier for people to look for a new job B. It's similar to the one they had or something totally different. He says. Because of the pandemic. People have spent the past year being concerned about being at work. I think as the.