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Ep. 383  Megan Rapinoe

The Axe Files with David Axelrod

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Ep. 383 Megan Rapinoe

"And now from University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN audio the X. Files with your host. David axelrod Megan No is as my late friend. Harold Washington would say Sui Generis one of a kind A. Luminescence Star and leader of the world champion. Us Women's soccer team. She's increasingly used. Her Platform as global sports icon to speak out for marginalize people and progressive causes. Now I don't often say this but I really was blown away by her story. Which is pretty remarkable but by her candor depth endless disarming genuineness which you will hear before we begin the one note. Meghan is leading a legal battle for pay equity in. Us Soccer which we discuss here but on Friday the day after we spoke the women player suffered a legal setback when a federal court. Judge threw out large portions of their suit. They immediately promised an appeal now. Here's my conversation with MEG repeal. Oh Hey Megan good to be with you. Good to see you. I am seeing you at a whole different way. Actually because your signature blonde hair is not not blonde is a reflection of the times in which we find ourselves. This is this is Cova D- grow out. I'm scared to death to do anything by myself. for fear that. I might just burn it all off and be left bald. So I'm I'm Rockin. You're also you would have been preparing right now. You'd be in the final throes of preparing for the Olympics. That is not happening First of all how are you spending your time and then what does it mean to have the Olympics postponed for you and the other athlete? How spending my time. I've actually find myself quite busy and doing a lot of zooms and I G lives and PODCASTS. Turns out I like being social and I think I I like kind of staying in the mix actually feel more rested because I'm not traveling and You know flying all over the country doing appearances and playing and all that so Found time to still do quite a bit of public stuff but Just trying to keep in shape as well. There's no way to to train at the level. You need to be ready so just trying to kind of stay at a baseline and Just sort of be be thankful for where I am There's a lot of people who are and you know terrible terrible conditions and just trying to you know obey the stay at home orders and make the best of it while I can and in terms of the Olympics. I mean obviously my My girlfriend sue and I both were in in the same position I mean it's it's it's devastating in this way. You know. This is an opportunity. Sometimes people WANNA get once in their lifetime there. Undoubtedly will be people next year. If the Olympic happens that they wouldn't have been there and they might have been there this year or you know New People might come so it's it's very uncertain for us but at the same time it just I. I just can't help but feel it's completely pales in comparison to the current moment in what were in and how important this moment is so in a way. I'm kind of like well. Yeah of course. We're not gonNA play the Olympics and frankly I think the Olympics are are in doubt next year but You know just thankful or safe and happy and healthy even mixture him. I mean yeah I mean I don't know obviously You know we. We don't know. Hopefully we'll stumble drug therapy or You know have a record record time in vaccine but The more I think about it logistically Just bringing everybody together like that. With the absence of of drug therapies or anything like that just seems difficult but You know very hopeful still but yeah it'll it'll be. I guess we'll see I don't want to be in the prediction business but will say I don't want to be in delicate about raising this but you've had a long in very celebrated career and you're at an age where people begin winding their careers down. You said you're nowhere near that point. But there's that element is there to you. You mentioned your girlfriend suit sort of casually. She's a World Class Future Hall of Fame Basketball Player and so a major athlete also at the sort of at the end of her playing career. What does the time lost mean? That's that's something I think. We're sort of grappling with Right now as this pandemic unfolds and things pop into her head were trying to figure out what it all means You know in the beginning before the Olympics were postponed. It was like we were very early on like of course it's GONNA be cancelled. And what does that mean? Is it going to be postponed? So that was a little difficult. And then I think we've kind of recently started thinking well. Wow it's only you know potentially a year away. Are we going to be ready by then? I mean it's it's just so unknown. That's not a comfortable feeling as a as an athlete you try to control everything that you can and certainly you want to be able to go out the way that you want to and Not Sort of be pushed out by a pandemic but Yeah it's it's a very strange time for an athlete. Our our whole lives in many regards in many aspects are so planned out for so long even working out right now. I'm like I need to work out because I need to stay fit but I'm like why we're not playing the summer most likely but I'm like but what if we do. So it's it's it's really strange to not have That sort of structure around it. But you know I think if it if it if it happens that you know. We can't play sports for the rest of this year or a number of years or whatever it may be You know the situation will be what it is and I think we'll be at peace with that but I think we're definitely both hoping To be able to play and this Olympics and will likely be the last Olympics For for both of US maybe maybe not for me and my might try to hang on but likely you know the You you mentioned that you discovered you really social which is a really weird thing I mean. I think we're all figuring this out. So we're we're all socializing these little boxes on zoom and yet it does draw you. You know people I haven't heard from another longtime say. Let's let's have a zoom cocktail. Let's have a beer on zoom and people are but I'll tell you one thing that that is hard when you're stuck at home if you're a sports freak as I am and many people are is no games and we don't know and we don't know in terms of professional sports including professional women's soccer when that is going to happen and that's a whole different set of issues because you got a bunch of players who and we'll talk more about pay later on but who don't get paid very much. The clubs themselves operate on margins. So that's a big uncertainty as well as when teams are going to play in and what it's GonNa look like very uncertain I mean it's you know for all athletes of course It's difficult but you know if you're talking about an NBA player versus you know w NBA player or an mls player versus a player. Financial situations and realities are are much different for both the structure of the League. Each club and then down onto the player As of right now I think all of the The non national team players in the N. W. Cell are being paid their salary. They had just started. Preseason when this hit so They were protected in that sense The national team is still playing but without any games or opportunity for bonus or playing You know the reality is a little bit different I mean I think you know. Unfortunately we're going to be hit really hard We don't have the the reserves that the NBA hasn't been the NBA's talking about you know the thing. They instituted the force majeure on their players which takes twenty or twenty five percent of their salary. Will you know if you're making fifty million dollars? It's really if you're making one million dollars. It's you're still fine so I'm concerned about that for sure. Not really sure what as we get deeper into the summer. And Are we going to have a season or not? I'm not really sure about the you know. Financial Future of the League's. Hopefully we can ride this out and You know be able to to come back strong next year whenever we're able to but it's definitely a big worry for the female leagues around the country and the world. Frankly Ya know I. There's so there's there's nothing but uncertainty about all of this and that is really uncomfortable but most uncomfortable if your livelihood has been lost hers in jeopardy I WanNa talk about your amazing story. Your Life Journey from Redding California. Tell me about growing up in your small town in Northern California. You know it's funny. I never thought about it ever until I left it and out of college and even quite a bit out of college it seemed you know totally normal to me and I think by by all standards pretty normal group in a great family I'm a twin and were the youngest of six kids so there was plenty happening in the household Both my parents Blue Collar Workers Dad works in construction. My mom's waitress They grew up driving us. All over the the north of Dayton in California just general playing soccer But didn't really realize until after. I became much more liberal and Realize oh I didn't I didn't grow up in a in a blue area or in a blue family per se but you know all the the same sort of values of Treating one another fairly and Taking care of one and sort of shirt off your back kind of value. That's that's how I grew up so I think it's I don't know if people don't know my whole story and they just kind of look at me and think you know. I probably grew up in like a hippie communist or something but turns out I grew up in trump country. Yeah well yeah actually. I think your town voted overwhelmingly for him overwhelmingly. Yes yes definitely. Yeah you mentioned that your folks drove you all over Northern California. You played basketball. You are on the track team. You did not play soccer in high school. You played for a club that was from the bay area. Two hours from where you lived your mom who worked six days a week with spend her days off taking you and your sister to play soccer first of all. Why did you do that? Why why didn't you play for your school? Why did you join this club? And secondly how hard was it for you as someone who wasn't affluent who didn't come from a well to do family Which probably wasn't the norm on the club team that you played on. Yeah I mean we ended up going to Sacramento playing on that team out of Elk Grove. Because there was no You know competitive team at that level in our in our town so earlier on when we were maybe ten and eleven there was you know different teams that that came about. We played competitively which allowed us to go and be seen in Sacramento and beyond but Count wants everyone was getting into high school You know the other players on the team weren't GonNa continue on playing soccer. So that's why we eventually went and played in. Sacramento is really the only option to play at the highest level for us. And then it's interesting. It's almost like we lived in reading and You know coming out of bringing always claim it and we have this like you know soccer star coming out of reading but we never really played there very often and in high school. We wanted to play basketball and soccer and basketball. We're in the same season Which happened to be the winter seasons while I was like I can either play outside in the rain in the cold all the time or maybe I'll just take a break and keep myself balanced and You know we wanted to play basketball. We love it still to this day. we both we both love it so that was kind of the the choice there to to get out and um dual some different. Your brother Bryan. It was five years older than you. And you've credited him with introducing you to soccer you and your sister Rachel soccer but his life took a different turn than yours and and that's obviously been impactful on you. What what happened with him. I mean it's hard to say when I think what what happens with you know. Probably Ninety nine percent of people that get mixed up with drugs or opioids eventually and Heroin eventually I think he was a popular kid in school. We wasn't wasn't withdrawn or Depressed or anything us very social and I think it started off as a social thing for him but quickly probably whereas most kids you know. Try it through school. Whatever he got caught at school With drugs and Paraphernalia so immediately sort of put into the system and then from there he just kept using drugs and kept getting caught. And you know eventually out of juvenile and into county and then into the state prisons and then eventually into federal prisons And and really a a lifelong struggle about for you. He was a role model for you. Yeah no it was. It was very very difficult at that time. I think you know I think he. I got in trouble when I was ten years old. So he was fifteen years old Not really understanding quite What was what totally was going on. But my parents always told us and bury frank terms what was happening so. I'm very thankful for that. It was never something that was kind of kept secret I knew it was so hard to not only see your brother who you look up to and still to this day. I love him so much. And you know. I'm so thankful that we had you know the relationship that we had and that we still have But going through that as as such a young kid and senior parents upset and then seeing him in and out of prison and going through all the sort of high school years of being angry with him and pissed at him. Why can't you just you know? Stop or you're hurting us. And then you know understanding more about addiction and you know particularly you know opioid addiction and heroin addiction. How difficult that is and You know how the disease just grabs you and then later in life understanding more so the criminal justice system and now it's like a treatment. Do you have the opportunity for treatment? I mean there was. There was bouts of treatment. Yeah in different in different areas or different stints that he had but it was more so on the context of you know do this and then you won't go to prison but as you know. That's that's not really You know the most effective way to keep people from using drugs is threatening them to go to prison or to send them to prison for long periods of time which I feel like you know. Once he was imprisoned he got caught up in in a lot of other things that that really shaped the rest of his life and a lot of ways. Yeah you've been outspoken. Lately this is obviously this debate has come to the fore we also have this tragedy right. Now of people who earn prisoner don't necessarily have to be imprisoned who are now more exposed to the covert nineteen virus. But you've been outspoken on this prison. Reform issue obviously informed by his experience. Had he been diverted to therapy and treatment rather than prison his life might have taken a different path. I believe it would have. Yeah I really do. I mean someone who's fifteen sixteen years old You know even into his his early twenties To to have his route instead of go through intense. You know therapy. And maybe that means a trade school but therapy along the way and counseling and help To be thrown into a federal prison system to be you know in Susan Vellore Pelican Bay or whatever it may be For really the problem at the root of it is drugs. It just makes no sense to me first of all. We're filling first of all you know. Our our streets are being filled to the Max with pills. I mean we were all. We're seeing it all now. Obviously with the opiate companies The prescription drugs and just how devastating that was and how much knowledge these drug companies had. That was addictive and be exactly what they were doing. They were pumping you know the the famous town and You Know West Virginia that had you know Thirty thousand pills per person or whatever so Thursday at all happening at the same time. And then you know you're putting someone into the federal prison system at such such a young age and when they get out. What kind of job are they supposed to get? You can't get a job if you have a felony. No one wants to hire you. You're you know sort of now. The gap between the life skills is increasing for you. And so now you know it's it's really difficult to easiest thing is to you know Go back into prison. And then that's the people that you know. You're you're really just kind of in this loop. That is really difficult to get out of prison. Packed full of people who really just have have drug have drug issues. They're they're not violent criminals and It's just yeah the I mean it's it's obviously a very complicated issue. We'd go on for hours about it but It's just so sad to see how many people have been caught up in it and I think a lot of people's perception of that you know drug addicts or bad people. You know bad people do bad things. And it's just that's just not the reality off we're gonNA take a short break and we'll be right back with more of the X. Files these are tough times in so many ways people are stuck at home feeling isolated worried about the state of things better help offers online professional counselors who can help. You can talk to a licensed online therapist and find relief. Better help therapists specialize in issues such as depression stress anxiety relationships insomnia family conflicts and more. You'll connect with your counselor in a safe and private online environment so anything. 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I think I probably thought I really WanNa be that person. I'm not sure I quite understood the path or that there was a path. I'm not sure they're totally was a path for me then Goes Yeah Thirteen or fourteen But I yeah I definitely remember being like this is the most incredible live thing I've ever been to And just seeing you know. Not only the the passion on the field but with all of the spectators and wondering. I think to myself. Is this something I certainly want to do it? This looks like the most amazing performance I could ever be a part of but is there. Is there a way forward to that? I think I was probably still a little a little shy to be thinking that at that point your sister was a player to your twins She never achieved exactly the same level of success as you did. She did well. You guys went to college together. And so on Was that ever source of tension between the two of you know I don't feel like it really was She was far better at basically everything until like midway through junior year in high school. And then it. Kinda like switched a little bit but we both you know went and played soccer. The University of Portland on a full ride scholarships. We're both accomplished in our own. Right but I think because we you know we were you know. She was so much better for all those years. And then we kind of lake even dowd and pulled ahead after college. It was never this competitiveness against each other. I think we've always been each other's Biggest fans and wanting the best for each other and I think it was clear that my passion really was in in sports in soccer and her passion wasn't wasn't quite there for like it was one of the things that happened at the University of Portland is you came out both came out so tell me about that and tell me about The experience of going back and talking to your folks about that. It was interesting because we actually went to school in different. Semesters I took the first semester off. Would've been like the fall semester To plan a youth world championships rates went ahead to college. I got there in the January semester. until we both kind of came to it On our own and then sort of figured out that it was happening at the same time. Kinda talked about I actually. I think in an effort to make it better for Rachel but in hindsight. That's probably wasn't my place. I actually outed both Rachel and I at the same time to my mom. She was like that is not your thing to tell and I was like But you know I thought we could maybe bring it all together. I thought they were like you know going to be totally fine about it. Took him a little a little bit to adjust but overall they're fine now it was. I read the. You talked a little about that conversation and you told your mom. This is an adjustment. You use the word grieving in there. That was interesting to me that you were thinking about how she would process all of this and and how did she receive that when you said then. I think that might have come a little bit later. My mom and I are very similar fairy fiery so in the moment I think I was like well first of all shocked that she didn't already know I was like this cannot becoming a surprise to you because when I I figured out I was like Oh my God. I'm embarrassed that took me this long but then I think at the months kind of traveled on I begin to understand that you know as a parent. You would have your hopes and your dreams for your children. It doesn't mean that you can't have those but the picture will change a little bit. And so I think in the beginning I was like you're GonNa be onboard with this or like hell or high water out of here and then I kind of realized like like what are we talking about here. There has to be you know some grace not all the grace. I think that You know parents sometimes you know they WANNA to. I don't know there's sort of like what does this have to do with me or did I fail you and it's like it's actually not about you at all so. I think just giving that time to sort of understand the process and come to terms with it while still sort of pushing on some issues at the same time as is the right way to go. The other thing. That happened at Portland. Is You got hurt a lot. Yeah you blew out your knee not once but twice and that was a long long convalescence. And how'd You keep from getting discouraged? How'd You keep from Saint Well? Maybe this isn't going to happen for me. Yeah I had A. I had a have a big dose of humility for myself. I think I went in as a freshman played well as a freshman. Oh Wow I'm I'm pretty good. I'm feeling pretty good about myself here and then it happened. I think you know five or ten games into my sophomore year so basically my sophomore year and junior were out so I think in the in the with the first one you know I was like. I'm going to get back as soon as possible. And this isn't GonNa keep me down and I'm GONNA do things my way. Yada Yada and then the second one hit and I was like okay. Yep I'm not in charge here so I just kind of need to You know give myself over to the process and throughout it all. I never. I never doubted my love for soccer or that I wanted to come back to it and so I think through that I realized like just be patient and give yourself the time you need to heal. Because you can't speed it up like he can't speed up the healing process. You can only work with it and sort of react to it But the love and the passion was always. I mean it was difficult. Not being able to to do you know what I was thinking. I'm going to college. Four obviously getting education but Really focused on the soccer I I think it it. Tested me in those moments but it also made me so grateful for what I had an opportunity to that had and then once I was able to get back on the field with that sort of extra sense of of humility and like this could be taken away at any moment. I feel like it made me a better person and a better player that freshman year. I think you guys won the championship And you are undefeated and you were a big part of that and you know look. It's no secret that everywhere you go a your teams have done very well now either. You're very lucky or you're you're you're very good. You're obviously gifted athlete. There are a lot of great athletes though but there is an element that separates sort of the people who perform at the highest level. That seem more mental than physical. And I'm wondering if you give thought to that and what it is about your makeup that has contributed so much to your success. Yeah allies especially as I've gotten older I think As the you know you're not as a spry comes as you want as you once were. I've learned that yes. You're just starting to learn that. It is the the mental aspect that I think set sets people apart. I mean of course once you get to the very highest level. Everyone is extremely gifted. I mean it's not you you don't just work your way to the highest level you have to be born with some sort of God given talent That sort of puts you there. But then once you're there and everyone is there It takes a certain in. It's not cockiness. It's not arrogance but it takes a certain amount of self assured. Ns because everybody is exceptional and in almost in the sense of like other people are going to be able do things that you can't do at the highest level but intern year. The same you can do things that other people can't do either so it's it's kind of the combination of being absolutely sure of yourself and absolutely sure of your teammates at the same time. I think if you can get that that balance right you know especially in a in a team. Sport like we play so many players on the field at one time and You know so much. You know synchronization needs to happen. I think if you can equally trust yourself and trust your teammates entrusted in your ability and their ability. Then you really get to the special thing that makes teams great. 'cause you can have all the greatest players that you want. But if they're not working together as a team you never get to that. Higher level of play or being as a as a group is running this series about the Bulls. Which is close to my heart. Because I'm a Chicagoan and I watched I was there for those thirteen years of Michael Jordan and it is absolutely true that when he was on the court. You just thought well we'RE NOT GONNA lose. He won't let us loose and he in turn has said. Will you know when the game is on the line it kind of slows down for me and I see things really well and and it seems to me? There's a difference between a all. The players are great but the player. Who sort of wants to take control of the game at the time. Bill Walton? I did a podcast with him. Which was a trip and a half? But he He he's said. Hey that's I love. That was fun when the game was on the line. He said that was for me. That was fun for a lot of guys in basketball or gals. There's an don't pass me right now. You know. I don't necessarily WANNA take that shot. You seem to have that quality. You've always played well in the big games. I mean I love the big games I would. I would trade all of the practice and everything and put me in like the most pressure cooker. Moment every time In the summer only about the pressure I feel like it's all kind of a a grand performance and I I see myself in a lot of ways as an entertainer and as a performer. In this way and so you go out and get you have. The crowd is involved and the pressure is involved and the other team is involved in. Your team is involved. And maybe there's a championship on the line. Or whatever and it's I like all of those elements kind of interplay with each other I think watching the documentary. You see that with Michael is well. He liked it all. He wanted it all of those moments and it was like you know. I think he'd probably gone through in his mind. If I missed the shot you know I miss it. I'll take I'll take the next one but sort of being comfortable with that. Failure gives you the opportunity to succeed. You haven't failed very much you did. You've been on losing teams. The Olympic team you lost or the World Cup team. I guess I should say. How do you process that losing? I mean I feel like I'm Rivera realistic with almost how I approach injuries like you know if I get injured. It's you know it's not really much I can control I can go back and look at You know kind of an autopsy of what happened and get stronger in certain areas and and hopefully prevent it. But I mean if you play the game. Long enough Hopefully you're successful enough. You get enough of those positions you'd be you'd be extremely lucky to win them all And sometimes the other team just honestly plays better. I look back at you know Japan winning the World Cup in two thousand eleven. And then you take a bigger look at it. The whole story the Su- NAMI had hit the year before National Rallying cry. They had an you know them coming back and winning in the in the late. Moments still heartbreaking. I still feel like we should have won that but I don't know it's kind of like what are you. GonNa do like you can't go back. You're not going to rewind history so I I try to take the good with with the losses and just think like wow. I've had an opportunity to play in three straight World Cup finals and I've played. I've never won an NFL championship. But I've played in two finals and we had to amazing seasons and You know just try to learn from all of that but it's like it's it's all kind of part of it. I don't get too stuck on the losses. I feel that I'm very fortunate to be able to played on on all these championship teams. You say you'd think of it as entertaining. You're you know you've talked about this. Your flamboyance is is is kind of a signature. I mean not very. Many people have a signature crowd. Move named after them. The repeal. Your as you do. And you've said that people react differently to women athletes who are flamboyant. Who played in the crowd Than they do to male athletes who do the same I think so I mean I think we look back at Emmy Michael Journalists is a perfect example. I feel like this is probably where I get a lot of it. I grew up Glued to the screen watching The Bulls I had a life sized cutout and all these posters of Jordan and he had this this insane ability to like dagger your heart and then like do one of these you know or like give you a wink or tell you he's GonNa Whoop your ass and then like do it with sort of your smile and I feel men have the the space to have multiple things happening at one time whereas I think women always have that space so you can be a killer you can be. It should talk her and you can have a smirk and you can be an entertainer and you can be great and you can say it. It's like all those things are possible with men was I feel like women. It's a little bit Mike Okay. She's GonNa work really hard and we're going to inspire the next generation. It's all about inspiring the next generation and being a role model and all those things but it's also like I'm also great at what I do and I also want to have fun and I also want to be able to poke jabs and you know entertain the media and sort of have have the whole circus going on. I feel like we need to allow our women more space to just be themselves and make it a little bit more entertaining and I gotTa tell you the people who are watching enjoy watching you have fun. I mean it's fun to watch a great athlete. Have Fun you'll as you point out. You lost the World Cup in two thousand eleven to Japan. You came back and you had a chance to avenge that loss in the Olympics in two thousand and twelve before those Olympics. You made the decision that you were going to come out publicly. Tell me about that. And how that impacted on you. It honestly just started to feel a little weird that I wasn't out out in my normal life friends and family But it it was kind of one of those things like are you. Are you omitting things or a change in your answers? Are you you know user pronouns to avoid the and it just started to feel disingenuous for me so there was that part of it personally And then you know I think like you know the gay rights argument A movement was more starting on legalizing marriage and That had become sort of more popular in broad topic. I think I was sort of dipping my toe more so into politics and getting involved in that and it just felt like this is the right time and I also think people were like. Oh you did it right before the Olympics and like make a splash. I'm like well. Yeah I'M NOT GONNA do in the back page of nothing newspaper where nobody's GonNa see what's the point of that you know so it's kind of like yeah. I do WanNa make an impact even this year people's Al. You're leveraging the moment I'm like Hell Ya eleven the moment what's the whole point of everything unless everybody seeing it though. It was kind of one of those scenes just like the right time and I felt like it was. You know the the the right step for me to come out and say especially leading into the Olympics which must be all about unity and everyone competing at their best. And I just feel like if I'm not competing as my full self then there's something missing. How what kind of reaction did you get from particularly young people gay young women and then I WanNa talk to you about men and men athletes David so so positive at to this day I mean it's been a number of years And still to this day kids. Come up to me You know parents come up to me people by as much older than me You know just saying how impactful it was on their life just to to have more people in different sectors of our society and our culture that are not only out in saying it but then not having it be the only thing that's talked about like yes. I am Gay Professional Athlete. But I think I've gotten to the point now. You don't have to put gay in there but it's very clear that. I am gay and sort of in the room all the time. So then it breaks down stereotypes. It becomes more normalized so I think that's been sort of the gift that has kept on giving this whole time is just realizing how important it is even. Just if one person comes out you you might just reach that one person and for me that just keep happening. It's it's it's really amazing. So mentioned male athletes. You know that as a as a statistical fact that there are a lot of gay men in athletics as there are everywhere else and yet you see very few coming out and I'm wondering if male athletes have actually come to you at all to talk to you about that now that I can think of the that aren't out yet I mean it's it's a very complicated issue. I think a lot of people focus on the fact that no male athletes are out and they say they need to come forward and show that bravery but for me I think that the organizations and the teams and leagues and the sort of structures around. It clearly aren't making it so that those players feel safe. You know it's like Michael. Sam came out in the NFL and he just didn't have a team anymore. Now we can debate the merits further. He was good enough to play. But I think that sends a pretty strong signal to other players. Whether that's not just locker room talk about from an institutional standpoint that some of these teams. I don't think they're really going above and beyond to make it clear to not only the players but to the media and the staff and all of the players in the locker room and everyone in the organization that you will be safe and you'll be protected and we will stand with you when you do this. Not like okay when you come out now. We'll show the resources I think it sort of needs to be signaled prior to that and I think just the the stereotype with with gay men and with you know athletics. It's like if you're an athlete and you're a man your macho if you're gay and you're a man your somehow feminine. I mean I can't believe that we're still feeling that way. Because that's I think we're past that but we should do or should be allowed to these athletes. They feel it they. They can't take the risk you know. They have their financial future in their careers hanging in the balance. And maybe they just feel more comfortable unfortunately staying in the closet. It's very sad but you spend a couple of years playing in France. The Professional League folded after the Olympics in two thousand twelve. You didn't have a team to come back to you. Got To offer from the best team in France. Who spent a couple of years living? There did that. You any kind of a different perspective on America on life on was. How formative were those years that you spent their theory? I loved my time in France. I think interestingly I thought you know I'm thinking France and it's like so open and you know so like free loving actually found that it was much more conservative. Then I thought and maybe that was more in the sports world But they thought I was like the craziest thing that ever happened. I don't know if it's like they sort of. Have this like collective self conscious? I talk about this all the time if they would just let loose a little bit than it. Maybe it's it's in the context of sports but I feel like if you guys can loosen up a little bit then like everything would be a little bit better but yeah there was a sort of and I didn't speak French very well. I wasn't like flew in or anything I mean I would try I. Would you know speak French in store? Whatever get just get answered back in English? I was Kinda like that's fine. I tried you appreciate it. I know you speak English so it was. It was an interesting time. It got a little lonely towards the end Spent Yeah I think a year and a half there so a little lonely towards the end So it was nice to be able to come home but Living in another country I would recommend to everyone if you have the opportunity just to be out of your comfort zone that much that often you can't help grow up a little bit and did you get a sense of how the world sees America when you were over there. Yeah I think so. I mean you know they think we're loud and I think we're or sort of arrogant and I was like well. You're not totally wrong. But I think there's much more permission to be yourself here into different here. I think that we allow ourselves that freedom a little bit more. I mean I think a lot of the serotypes two are wrong. You know just what they see on TV You know much like what we see on TV. So I think that that sort of speaks to being able to live in a different place or go to different places. See other people when there's really no right a wrong for the most part It's just you know different cultures and what people are comfortable with and anything we see. Different is just sort of automatically kind of brush. We're going to take a short break. Stay tuned for more of the x funds if you the sport of basketball and also have a yearning for medieval things. There's a show you should know could game zones and the final episodes airing on bleacher report April thirtieth so a lot of things happened in two thousand sixteen. You went to the Olympics. You Metsu you blew out a knee In that period again this time the right one and speaking of knees you also in the fall of that year took one and you took one because of what Colin Kaepernick had done. That was kind of a transformative experience. You said you were dipping your toe into politics and Activism. That was a full immersion in politics and activism and and the reaction was not entirely positive on the part of the soccer authorities. And so on tell me about that period because it it sounds as if you were cer- blackballed for making the stand that you may. I mean it was a appeared in time. It completely changed my life for the better. In my opinion I'm so thankful for calling Kabir completely changed my life. Black lives matter Just that sort of movement and I think as an athlete standing up for yourself using your platform in that way. There's so many amazing things that that come with being in a society really that glorifies famous people and Athletes. And all of that. There's so many positives that come from it and I feel like I found the balance between all the positives and actually doing something with it No it was not looked upon favourably by a lot of people I mean I don't know if it was an actual blackball but I don't think I ever put the Jersey on or made a roster again until the rule was made by The I think it was the board of directors and and the president of the US soccer that you had to stand I mean sort of immediately there Response after it was the night of the first game that I did it for the national team while playing for the national team it was. You know you should feel honored and privileged to you know pull on the Jersey. As if like that's the only thing that matters and I'm like you know of course I feel honoured privileged part of that. Is You know being able to speak my mind and also I pull on the Jersey for for everyone and I think this flag drapes on certain people different than drapes on other people so I think you know going through that process and I naively. I think I F- I thought in the moment it's an opportunity to support column but maybe I can bring another subset of people into the conversation who maybe wouldn't listen to call in but maybe would listen to me and I don't. I'm not sure that affect on on people people were very Upset in mad but I think it actually you know it. It did start a conversation in a wider group of people. But I think it also you know put a highlight on. You know some of the criticism that Colin was getting you know. I think that you know saying that. He was anti military or that. I was anti military anti America in any way. I think that you know a lot of the criticism You know they sort of got themselves on that one. Your hometown didn't react very well to that. Your your mom has worked in the same place for years and years and years. They had a bunch of your sports memorabilia. They took your memorabilia down so I mean as we pointed out at that very moment they were going sixty five percent for trump. He was the guy who really pushed this issue. How'd you resolve this with your folks lot of conversations around this and I am so thankful for the relationship that we have because you know I'm being able to be so open with each other because it did put a lot on them you know? I wasn't in reading having to defend myself or to defend my actions or to even be able to speak about them. You know it was my mom who's trying go about doing her job and people coming into the restaurant mad or was snarky comments or being rude You know at at some of the nicer points so I feel like it did. Open a Lotta people's eyes up to a different part of the conversation and and even just being willing to have this conversation because now someone that they know and love and who has grown up around them and who's been you know a staple in the workplace in their family You know she's saying these things. Okay maybe we trust her a little bit more. So how can how can we start to understand this a little bit better and You know we don't agree on on everything I think. They probably wish I could have found a different way to do it but there is no different way. If I would have done something different would. Have you know people would have been upset about that as well so I think just the ability to have that conversation? Your Dad said something that I found really moving which is that. He is a veteran and that he fought for the right of Americans to express themselves. Which is you know to my view. Exactly right uh-huh yeah. That was that was something that I still feel strongly you know to this day. It was never obviously an an anti military. But we we have to give people the the option and the ability and to safeguard them when they want to speak their mind especially if they're you know speaking their mind for subset of people who have historically been discriminated against and I don't think anyone can deny You know the the racial injustice and disparities that have been that have been put on people in this country so we're seeing some of them real in real time right now. We are very much in terms of who has been most deeply affected by Kovic That's really sad. I think for people to understand the bigger picture. It's not that your life has been easy. In this person's life has been hard. It's not that simple sometimes to people struggle but You know there are certain people that based on his historically in our country and You know laws that have been made. Everything passed down that There's there's no denying that we that we have a racial issue. In this country you had a hell of a year last year. You guys won the World Cup. You took in just about every award. That one can win in soccer and in professional sports. You are the sports illustrated athlete of the year. Only the fourth time ever that a woman in sixty six years Won That Award You. Also you had a couple of other forays into public debate. And and one of them was very personal to women everywhere and that is the pay equity issue with soccer. That's been bubbling up for years. But you guys filed suit to try and get paid equally for what you do. It was a propitious time because everybody in the world was watching the. Us Women's soccer team. And yet you guys are paid in a very very disparate. Wave from men. One measure was professional men. Two Hundred Sixty three thousand for twenty exhibition matches a year. Women Ninety nine thousand series of measures like this and US. Soccer in response issued a really offensive legal brief in which they talked about women being essentially not the physical equal of man and a whole bunch of pejoratives. That must've riled. The hell out of you. It's been riling the hell out of us. I think something interesting about you. Know those those horrible comments that might have been the first time that the public could had heard those comments or that we had know seen. Those comments You know directly related to the lawsuit illegal brief but If not the exact word certainly. The exact sentiment is what we have been feeling all along. I think it shows up in our paychecks. I think it shows up in our mediations. I think it shows up in our bargaining sessions that we go through and just sort of the general Dialogue and discourse that happens between the women's national team and the federation so to for them to take what I thought was another big step forward. I mean this is. You're actually using this as an argument in the public. You know this is going to be public. You know people are going to see. This was so disappointing. I mean this is an organization charged with the development of soccer in the country for everybody and so two signal to not only the boys that they are just a nightly better but to the girls at their eight lesser was. Just I mean it was. It was stupid first of all You know if you're trying to win this lawsuit was it was not a good step in it. Just I think really showed how deep that sentiment goes that they were willing and comfortable to put that in public briefing and call it. Indisputable Science in college indisputable sign. It was just it was outrageous is what it was. Yeah so tell me where it is now. The last I saw you going to some sort of mediation. Yes we we Tried mediation in the fall. Last fall. that that did not go spectacular Clearly we don't have a settlement We're not going into mediation now. I mean of course. Settlement talks are ongoing. Always when you're in a lawsuit you've asked for sixty six million dollars in damages. Thereabouts thereabouts. we feel like not only the two World Cups. But you know years of of discrimination Pay Discrimination in our wages and contracts as I've said for a long time always continue. Say it. They're the only you know federation that we can have where the only team that they can have. We're GONNA be tied together forever. So I'm always hopeful that there's a way that we can work through this but I I really do believe that there needs to be a major paradigm shift and in in how they think about the women's team and how they value the women's team you know and how they value the men's team and a men's team hasn't been very good no no they. They have not been very. They've been successful but yeah on the world stage. They haven't they haven't quite performed. I think the way they want to but I think in order to honestly have the paradigm shift that we need. There needs to be a clearing of the house. I don't think that you can have all you know a lot of the same people that have overseen these decisions and been there for a long time You know unless they all sort of have a come to Jesus moment you automate some news before the World Cup when you set were asked whether you would Go to the White House if you won the World Cup and you said I'm not going to the fucking White House. Needless to say that got some attention got picked up it did include by the president himself who despite his you know. Thick skin felt the need to to to respond to that he said. Stop talking and win which you went out and did well. How does your team react when you said that you know it's interesting? I feel like still to this day. Don't have that like gut feeling like ooh did something wrong with the president. Just you know came at me on twitter. That's a big group of people my friend. You're in a large community. Yeah exactly I I got a Lotta Lotta people with me in that I mean I think because of the lack of seriousness that is that he takes with the presidency and You know with his words. I think everyone was like. Oh My Gosh. This is insane. Like the president is is coming at you but I think because I didn't have that like sinking feeling. I think the team sort of took signal from me and we were almost sort of brought us together. Costa everyone was like. Oh my God. You're taking down the president. This is insane. He's having a total meltdown. Twitter about you so it was kind of a funny thing And then obviously we were able to go on and win and then the silence was deafening. I still haven't gotten my invitation. Yes I'm sure you're sitting by your mailbox waiting for you've also become much more forward leaning in terms of politics with a kind of capital p. You Endorse Elizabeth Warren for president. Tell me why you endorsed her. And I know you're doing a thing with Vice President Biden. Maybe in a few minutes here. Yeah right after this. Tell me about your Evolution here I mean I think that's a perfect way to put. It has been an evolution. I think as I've sort of waged more into The sort of political landscape. I really enjoy it. And I like it I'm interested in politics. I think that You know getting younger people to understand fat whether you're engaging with politics or not. It's engaging with you so you might as well get involved. I mean we're seeing that first hand now. How important is not only the President? But you know everybody in his cabinet and were seeing the governors. And the mayors and the local official. Everybody I think is really starting to understand. Just how important government is in how I hope people see that we have the ability to shape it. I think part of why I'm so into I'm just interested personally. I want to understand better but I also want people by age and people like me who I think. Tend to say I don't WanNa make it political. I'm like well that's not even a question. It is political whether you walk on the street and you know hit a stop sign or you know you don't have health care. Whatever it is I want. I want younger people to understand that. It's engaging with you so like how do we make it cool? How do we make it interesting and I think for me as someone who has a platform how do I you know engage in in? How do I at least lend that platform Whether that'd be a candidate or groups or whatever it is to get more people involved with Elizabeth Warren. I loved her policies but they were great. I think that she's proven to be very definite political landscape With the Obama Administration. All her work on the consumer protections bill and how she looks out for people. I think she has this really sort of genuine smart but she's such a bulldog And I kind of battling to do I get an early or do I get in late. Because what if you get in and then your candidate doesn't make all this happen. But I think the more people engage like it's okay. It's okay that Elizabeth Warns. My was my first choice. And she's out now and now. I'm going to be full board with Vice President Joe Biden and you know throwing my support because I think ultimately it's the policies that on geeked out about it's it's what's actually going to happen in effect on a day-to-day basis. That's going to have the most impact. You can make a little pitch to Biden for a warrant on the ticket while you're with him today and I make a pitch for myself. Yeah well what what about that? You're almost you're almost appropriate age. I know I gotta I gotta I gotTa ask you about that because I'm sitting here and I'm listening to you and I worked on one hundred and fifty campaigns and and so when I hear someone who is as powerful as you are in expressing yourself as passionate about bring about change. It's a natural question I mean I know you're gonNA play into your mid forties based on what I see but Is that something that you'd ever even consider? I don't know I've been asked this a lot lately I will certainly be very involved in politics in whatever way that is. I'm not sure the the area I can be most impactful yet. I say this a lot. I think everybody has a responsibility to make the world a better place in whatever way they can do so and be most impactful. So if you're a lawyer you should do pro bono hours. If you're me you should do you know I. G lives zooms with with people I think I'm still kind of trying to figure out where exactly I can be most impactful I feel totally unqualified to be any sort of elected official. Even though you know two thousand sixteen notwithstanding normally you have to have some sort of You know extensive resume. I guess that's sort of out the window but I think that's changed. Maybe not for the better but I think that has But Yeah I'm not totally closing the door but you'll have to be my campaign manager. That happens well. You know what there are very few people who I would consider that for but let's talk. Let's Megan Pinot. It's so it's so great to be with you and so inspiring to watch you do your thing and I appreciate your investment in the world. Not just in your sports so thanks so much for being with us. Thank you so much. This is wonderful off to come back. Okay I hope so great to see it. Bye Bye bye. Thank you for listening to the X. Files brought to you by the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and C. N. audio the executive producer of the acts files. Is Emily Standards Show also produced by? Miriam Annenberg Samantha. Neil and Allison Seagull and special thanks to our partners at CNN. Including Courtney Coop Mega Marcus and Ashley less for more programming from the visit politics dot EU Chicago Dot. 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"Let's celebrate Megan repeal. No I'm Lilly ledbetter and this is a civil liberties minute with A._C._l._U. Attorney Bail Newman so amrried her and the entire United States women's soccer teams victory at the World Cup but also at us more no. That's the wrong were let us vowed a remedy. The cloud of inequality that in shrouds women's soccer on March twenty eighth the national team members sued the United States Soccer Federation for paying women athletes. It's far less than men for providing inferior playing conditions and for not promoting the sport as Lindsey Krause senior editor for op docs recently wrote in The New York Times quote money makes money women can play and win in all they want but the system is created by men four men she goes on to say quote we pay for what we value and if we invest in women's soccer is though there won't be an audience will make that come true which of course is the answer.

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This work is only possible with the help of subscribers who support the New York Times at a time when producing great journalism is increasingly difficult dangerous inexpensive to find out more go to New York Times dot com slash worth it and go subscribe to the New York Times. If your ride the New York Times all this all your hand wringing about the state of the media we need the New York Times you need it ah and what parts of America I'm John Pepper. I'm John Lovett Tommy Vitor in-studio today. We are very lucky to have the CO captain of the World Cup champion United States National Women's soccer team Megan. Thanks for thanks for being here. I know it's it's been a busy day for you. Oh my God of course this is like the highlight all the other stuff like you know they. They make you do but like this one I want to do. That's so nice. That's awesome. I mean so much. It's literally the most excited our team has ever been <hes>. Most people don't show up every day and there's like sixty people at their degree you and cheer so this is studying. Come into the office. You would be surprised we took a photo with Hickenlooper did not get the same response as a couple people short. Can we got about soccer fans. Can we talk about the post. Yes this is great radio. I'm doing the post France. You'll know what we're doing. You've done it a couple times. I think <hes> in my research where did that come from because it looks like a statue. I'm looking at yeah. I don't know where it came from. I did it before the World Cup once <hes> against Australia in Denver Yeah that was the the first and I think the only non-world Cup pose <hes>. I think it was just like a big moment in the game. It was kind of a big game for us. In the lead up <hes> they were obviously one of the contenders to win the whole thing and we took the lead and I was just like one of the most iconic photos of all time I know it's really taken the life of its own. It's cool to find a new arm movement. You'd think they'd all be taken but you've found a new one yeah to make your own in of itself without like there's no like and it just kind of like yes cool. How do you deal with the pressure and expectations that are on you walking into that final game not just as a player but as an advocate as someone who just got attacked by the prison United States it's like how do you get everything out of your head and just sort of focus on the game? You know it's funny. I don't think I tried to get everything out. I don't yeah I don't think that's ever really been my approach even just on the field like sometimes. Time things are going through my head or have a song stuck in my head or I'm like I can hear the crowd. I can hear specific people in the crowd <hes>. I don't think it's ever worked for me to just like be in the zone. I think I don't WanNa be alone in there. That's that's terrifying <hes> so I think it just like always have kind of a lot going on in there and we always have pressure on us and there's always a million things going on. I call ourselves traveling circus at all times whether it's in a World Cup or not so I think even though it is elevated <hes> mm-hmm I kinda just try to roll within like this ridiculously good fun amazing life so a little more pressure. I guess is not too bad. Why are the male players also hot? They are all hot. I know weird. It is weird. I don't know what it is. It's the the metro sexuality of soccer maybe yeah they are the over the peninsula together repairs on their no none no. They're very they're very very five yeah. I don't know I take this off the rails no. That's a good question. Honestly I've been wondering into that so you signed to think about somebody that dive into later. He did a lot of research on. This sounds like you guys had this big win. You came back a key to this awesome <hes> event yesterday New York you shut down the motherfucking city as you said <hes> but the speech itself was this really cool call to arms for citizenship. I felt like like you said you're more than someone who tunes in every four years and you called on the the fans to make their communities better step outside yourself be bigger be better like what made you turn that moment into something so big. That was about more than just that game. I think ours has been like <hes> a little bit of a shift in and my message in just since we got back almost I think there's been as you guys know so much fighting in contention <hes> and we're just fighting all of the time fighting against you know our federation fighting in society and all of us in like I'm just sick of the fighting writing like it's exhausting. I don't want to do that anymore and I don't think anyone really wants to do that and I don't think we're getting anywhere quickly doing it like that. <hes> so it's kind of just I guess <hes> the next step of it. I think that that the fight is important but then it's like you can't just sort of swing in the air forever so this feels like the next step. What can everyone do? <hes> I think sometimes people feel totally overwhelmed especially in the last few years with this <hes> you know current political climate and cultural climate just like it's exhausting all the time but maybe if you just do one small thing each day that can sort of help change and then just try to get it down to a little bit more granular than than trying to change the world all at one time <hes> so you were one of the first white athletes to join Colin Kaepernick kneeling during the National Anthem <hes> obviously that's a decision that comes with no small amount of risk yeah. How did you sort of way that those risks and ultimately make the decision to do that? Well if you know me and all you know I don't wait risks at all or think ahead before do much anything <hes> yeah. It all came about very quickly. Obviously I've <hes> you know pay attention to sports and news. I knew what was happening had seen a number of interviews by him <hes> and I it just resonated <hes> very deeply very strongly with me and it was sort of one of those things it was like what do you do about police brutality L. D. in this country like what am I gonNa do about something so <hes> ingrained as just me <hes> who doesn't have time to like <hes> you know get in there and make policy and be you know whatever so that just in that moment <hes> I just felt like we had a game coming up and it was kind of I think maybe the night before I just was kind of thinking about it and I'm like this is like something that you should do <hes> and it just kind of just did it have you have you always been politically active if politically interested like your whole life or something that happened over the last couple of years and trump was elected or was no. I think I mean especially since college. <hes> I think much more I was raised in Redding California just pretty <hes> rural small town sound very conservative and then went to Portland Oregon for college and my world just got different blown apart yeah I was like I realized I was gay awesome. Do you not realize you were gay till you got to Portland yes that it was actually embarrassing looking back like not to stereotype pictures but straight bowl cut cut the sleeves off. Everything didn't wear shirt till I was twelve. I was like you know just such a little like baby. Bush back then and I like looked back as soon as I found house like no one told me this is the biggest betrayal yeah and I was like you're damn right tomboy so yeah so going to feel like my whole world. Just got opened up then so. <hes> kind of started to pay attention more <hes> but definitely I've gotten older and then I think being on the team <hes> the team is always kind of Ben Political. I think we have two female athletes just in general <hes> especially gave him. All athletes were were just political political just for being who we are so common sense but is it weird. I mean I feel like in America. We think that freedom of speech doesn't always extend to athletes for some reason Lebron. James is told to shut up and dribble rainy chastain was told not to celebrate how she wanted to write like. Why do you think that is is that <hes> another impediment to speaking out as an athlete? I don't know why that is because it's like some of the the biggest cultural shifts and change makers in our history have have been athletes and as a culture that's obsessed with celebrity in particular athlete celebrity. It's it's amazing that we don't sort of lean on those people more <hes> to to kind of help shape and shift culture as it is <hes> and I think a lot of athletes don't feel comfortable doing that. They feel like there's so much on the line in the sister one chance to live their dream and <hes> I'm a rightfully so I mean thank you Colin Kaepernick obviously the perfect example of that right now <hes> you know they took everything away from him on on purpose just to silence his message so I think athletes feel a fear of doing it <hes> but it's actually very liberating to do so part of this is what it means the criticism. I think you've gotten a lot of that that people com Cabernet have gotten a lot of is can't you just leave politics off the field right <hes> but do you have you ever felt like you wanted to do that. Just literally just play the game and leave politics six out of the field or does that is it possible for you to participate in sports without commenting on the ways in which being an athlete as a gay woman changes what it means to play sports. It's impossible. It's impossible impossible for me to do that. <hes> and I think really for any athlete is such a cross section of society so often so in that sense. I think it doesn't feel exhausted. I think a lot of people ask. How do you sort of manage? Both it's like this is just normal normal life and it doesn't feel exhausted would be exhausting to not talk about it because then you constantly have this thing that's there that you're sort of pushing to the side <hes> and not talking about <hes> but I don't think it's possible for me as a as a gay female athlete to leave politics to the side when you said to eight by eight <hes> I'm not going to the fucking White House. Did you have any idea what that would lead to know. I know it's sort of it was like <hes> The Jersey unveil and it was kind of it was like a you know behind the scenes <hes> sort of moment and I think I wasn't expecting it to blow it because they think it's I've may have said it before I would never go to the White House and this administration has just pretty obvious that I would never go so. I didn't think it would be a thing. I mean I guess you through the effort in there and everyone freaks out a little bit <hes> I do use it a lot anymore. Tone it down a little no. It's just in my normal flows public moments screaming motherfucker in the middle of New York City and like cable television like you talking to me yeah. Cultures is not the problem in fact <hes> but no I did not think that it would blow up into the president tweeting me. Did you find out like Oh. The president just tweeted from our press officer <hes> with the team. I don't actually go on twitter all that much and I don't have any like notifications or anything like that on it. That would just like toy drive me nuts so I found I saw I had to actually go look because he had sort to reference something and I was like Oh no and this is we have a good relationship. You've obviously had a lot of media incidents to to handle between all of us so I was like Oh dear. She did it again what happened you like no one should be able to predict that our president is such a petty child that he views every issue through the prism of if you're mean or not mean to him like you guys are world class athletes representing the United States of America. You'd think you could take a little insults but no now this guy. It wasn't even an insult. Is that an insult I mean I guess well Yeah Yeah. It's an insult fucking White House while this jokers in there oh a party a party. I love Italian over my dead fucking. I'd say that her so you also did tweet that he was going to invite you anyway turning honor into quite a threat. How's that played out yeah? You've been threatened to go to the seat. Native American Power Yeah Big MACs yeah of winning exactly <hes> well. It's been oddly silent <hes> and this is the the preferred mode of communication <hes> for the president of the United States with all things in the world so it's not like there is like a you know another medium that is using them just meeting Kim Jong Hoon at the d._M._Z.. Inviting the White House all the same media deal <hes> but there's been no official invite yet not publicly. I think that there has been some reaching out from <hes> the White House and from Congress and <hes> everybody <hes> to the federation but there's nothing public public out there yet from the White House Party of America is brought to you by Luna Bar. The first nutrition bar for women. Luna bar is so proud of the players of the U._S.. 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I think outrage at the fact that you and your teammates are underpaid considering that you are the greatest in the world at doing something should we allies in this cosby be less focused on the disparity between you and the men's team when we talk about it and just talk about the fact that you make the federation a ton of money and you deserve like a proportional share of that. What's the best way for people to fight for you? Yeah I do think the compensation piece is talked about too much. It is it. It's a it's a complex argument. Our pay structure is different. <hes> we play different games were different rankings in the world like it's just apples goes to orange it but I think what isn't different. It's investment teams. The care which with teams are <hes> you know thought about whether that's branding marketing. <hes> you know how much money He's putting the coaching staff how much money is put into the whole program making it better into the youth teams into the way we travel in the way we stay all of that. I think should just be across the board the same until until we have all of that the same and have those conversations the compensation pieces kind of like the very last part part of it so like why is it acceptable for all of these years that you know they're just spending lesson investment to grow the game on the women's side than they are them inside especially since the Federation is a nonprofit. What are your next steps on the fight for equal pay? What's <hes> what's coming up? <hes> mediation has been agreed upon so that will be set. I think once all of the the dust settles a little bit from the World Cup or at least people get back to <hes> get back to their inboxes and start doing emails again and we'll we'll sit down with them. I guess start to try to hash this out. Yeah should be interesting. She should be so much fun the love mediation it should be interesting. I think think like a lot of our listeners love. You love the national team like they want to support all of you guys and everything you do but they don't know the best way to do it. You know <hes> in an off year not an Olympic year will what can they do if you're listening right now. Now Sport the Women's national team sport soccer in the U._S.. <hes> we have a league that we play in <hes> for five or six months out of the year so by season tickets given to your friends. Tell your friends and family support that way and that really helps support <hes> you you know a much larger pool of female athletes. There's only twenty three players that were on the national team and we have nine teams in the league and there's hundreds of players that play <hes> who've I mean I think the minimum salary this year is fifteen thousand dollars for six months so who who are basically paying teams to play <hes> so you can go and watch watch those Games Watch on T._V.. <hes> go to national team Games. Tell tell everyone that you know about it by jerseys wear jerseys to work. We're all wearing jerseys yeah. I had this for such a long time. I always wear this Jersey and I wear soccer jerseys constantly. This is definitely not the second time I've mortar soccer juries since I was five years old and cried because I wanted to go home and do math so are you there so yeah and then he became a math major said okay so a lot of commentators noted that <hes> fourth of July weekend. There's the split screen in right so like trump's idea. Patriotism is his celebration on the mall with a bunch of today. I didn't actually get to like busy. Yeah I had been reading in <hes> kind of in the lead up of it all and I was like Oh God how's this is a bunch of tanks and Republicans donors fourth of July in Washington and then the other side. There's you and the team and what patriotism means to all of you and a lot of people said well. That's real patriotism. Have you has given you opportunity to think about patriotism what it means. How you think about it? How you define that <hes> yeah I I think I started thinking about patriotism <hes> after I knelt because I actually did not think that the reaction and was gonna be anywhere near as bad as it was? I feel like I thought that me being an ally in that way would would sort of help move the conversation maybe forward and and sort of bring people together more rose. They see someone someone like me. Doing it looks like me my color skin may woman gay when it's like okay. Get it at all sort of makes sense <hes> that didn't happen that was misread that one America nineteen but I felt like I was being super patriotic. I feel like I'm super patriotic. You know if we want to be this big bad country and have you know be the superpower and be leading the way and everything and then we're just not doing that at home I don't I think that's patriotism. That's not cool yeah well. It's like loving your countries being confident enough to know that it needs to change right. Well self reflection self help. It's always good look inwards. <hes> yeah and I don't think criticising you country. <hes> you know is bad. I don't understand why people may think that makes us look weak in any way I think being vulnerable in that way <hes> makes us look strong and then we can actually get rid of that problem and then move onto the next one and then we're even stronger so I've got a so you have become a household name. You become someone incredibly famous very quickly and someone who people put a lot onto right you represent women's sports represent gay people. <hes> you represent liberals in the culture now. Do you feel any pressure now. Different from what you felt before just to win on the field to be this ambassador <hes> for a whole bunch of different groups of people. I felt did this World Cup. We had a lot of pressure for a lot of different ways. I felt like if we didn't win. We would still be celebrated and it would be good <hes> but not you know the sort of monumental change that I think is is happening at the moment <hes> yeah. I think I'm still digesting. I almost have two million instagram followers. Wow from five hundred thousand as winning the the World Cup doesn't like you when you put a photo note. It just doesn't see later says see in four years yeah. These are like that are going to have an instagram influence so brands if you're listening with. Did you feel like you're adding pressure. I mean you did like this incredibly baller thing as to say if we win the World Cup we're going to say fuck you to Donald Trump and there are a lot of people that speak patriotism decided to root against you for for that you kind of and then you went out and did it anyway. Holds your shot. That was cool. Babe Ruth pointed somewhere pointed out so that's what you did. You're the Babe Ruth of telling Donald Trump to go fucking. We gotTA title. Title but did you did you know in that moment that you are also going to be creating more pressure already high pressurized situation that now you've added this added thing thing of if we win we'll have like made a point to the president of the United States I think because it happened mid tournament and we were sort of already in the mode and we have so much pressure already and like the first game we already had controversy over over the celebrating and I'm just like you guys really is is what we're talking about line zone dances yeah don't come on yeah. We picked part about it. They don't want America to score Gore the most goals and be super pumped about it. They shouldn't have let us in the sport. You know what I mean. It's Donald play you know very very sip upper lip shit. You know what I mean. We're GONNA only store the goals we need. No no we're not. We're definitely not so I think because it happened bend like it did and we were already in the moment. It was already just wild as it could be and there's there's no more pressure that you could put on. It's like you have to win the World Cup in spectacular fashion. What else is more than that not? Even Donald Trump is is more pressure than that but I think it was a little it actually happened at a good time within the cycle of our games as well because we had a few days in between for the game so we were able to like digest it and address it just like Kinda head on in the press conference and then it was just sort of put away and then yeah we played in the craziest craziest game that game against France was amazing. The atmosphere was like nothing I've ever experienced yeah. That's so cool so you are you might have noticed. There's a primary happening on the democratic side. It's like thirty five people running. We're going to be the most wanted. Surrogate in the history of president is is anyone interesting anybody making a couple of phone calls Pete Online one Elizabeth Warren Online to <hes>. I think that there has been <hes> interest a little bit. I have not heard directly <hes> but I think maybe once the dust settles WanNa pick the winner right. You know you don't want to be stuck with someone is GonNa be really embarrassing. Are you worried at all that dancing with Bill de blasios lousy. O. Is bad for your brand. Yes yes definitely he was on my flow for years ago. He was on and again. This year thought Batman Yeah. I hope he doesn't drag us down. Even funnier thing better thing about your speech yesterday was when you governor Cuomo. Is that it quite well. It's Cool Omo who elmo Coloma Yeah. They'll need to hear it. Whatever that was honestly you you not knowing Cuomo's name in front of Bill? Blasios was the happiest moment of that all goes downhill from here. That's a raise everything else was ever yesterday. We have to get you to Jimmy Kimmel so yeah we will. We will leave you. Thank you so much for joining us today. Offering coming here this is this is the highlight of most people who <hes> people who work here. This is the highlight right here. This is pretty good. I have to say we're vital in my preparation A. and readiness for the World Cup music has no longer <hes> can no longer be motivation for me in my workouts. I'm just like I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it already know the song I can't listen to music the I need something like to take me totally away from my workout so like literally eighty percent of my workouts I listen to you guys in the podcast. It's long to get through the whole thing abreast of the news and <hes> keep myself woke and keep myself educated educated and <hes> Shit at the gym would really put me up is a Dan Pfeiffer Paul Ryan. I need right man. I love it. You guys delivered <hes> <hes> the news in such an easy way to digest and learn. You're so smart. You're so entertaining so thank you for that otherwise. It's like I probably wouldn't have been prepared and then like Donald Trump. If you like see I told her she's your online. Do we get that in close up. It's ever happened pumping won. The world did Megan Pino. Thank you for being here. Congratulations again the best. Thank you thank you so much doc.

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FC Exclusive: Megan Rapinoe

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FC Exclusive: Megan Rapinoe

"Welcome in the E._S._p._N.. N._F._C. and our exclusive interview with Meghan repeal our Alexis Nunez sat down with the U._S.. Soccer Star over the weekend chat about life after winning the World Cup the future of American soccer tweets from the president impacted the U._S. Locker Room and so much more so here it is Alexis Nunez and Meghan re piano all right Mike and so when you look back at this World Cup. What do you want people to remember from it? <hes> a big question. This Cup was about so much more than <hes> just the World Cup <hes> I think I want people people to understand what we have to take on as female athletes all of us sort of every player in the World Cup and <hes> just the the amount that were capable of if I think that <hes> obviously having to perform on the field is one thing for all of the athletes but sort of what we have to do to get to that point and so put on the most incredible show <hes> can be difficult at times but I feel like I think the women's game just put on such an amazing <hes> performance all of the teams all of the players <hes> I hope people realize the potential of the women's game and in your interview with meet the press so you had said that you fill in the national team gave people hope when it was really all about taking the next step forward in progress for you. What does what does that look like? I think it looks like a lot of things <hes> depends on on sort of arena. You're for an for talking about our relationship with federation and what we have coming with them. <hes> I think progress step forward would be a major paradigm shift <hes> from them and obviously equal pay and <hes> talk about compensation but really just is how they view the women's game in the way they invested in it and <hes> you know the huge potential that is there if we really doubled down on it and make that big investment across the board <hes> I mean for talking about society of his -Ly <hes> I think I really hope that this team and myself have inspired people to feel like there is something important that they can do and that they have a responsibility to do. I think it's sort of overwhelming <unk> at times too especially in this climate to know what to do and sometimes I think people feel is that they don't have a huge platform. There's no impact to be made but I think that everybody has a personal responsibility you to make the world a better place in whatever way they can and I hope people feel inspired that whatever small part or large part that they can play that that's an extremely important part of moving things moving things forward and making this place a better her a better situation for everyone now. The Women's team has definitely done a lot for the growth of the sport here in the United States and the men's side. You know we have seen a lot of steps taken especially at club level to what do you think is the key to continue growing the sport here in the U._S.. Listen I think a huge investment in in the youth <hes> is really where it's at obviously <hes> you get to the highest level <hes> and it's pretty obvious what needs to happen but if we really want to be <hes> you know global heavy hitter hitter both on the amendment on the women's side and on the men's side I think it's really important to invest in the youth and specifically <hes> youth of Color and underserved communities. I think that there's <hes> a huge miss happening right now in our country without if you look at the basketball Komo system football system <hes> you know if you're good enough you play bottom line and I think in in soccer <hes> it's more of that pay to play model and were <hes> sort of ignoring communities. You might not have the ability financial or otherwise to participate in the highest level of soccer so focusing on those areas and sort of building our superpower from the ground up I think is is the best way to do that. Go speaking of the youth as he just so beautifully touched on then so how'd you see the I._C.. Z. Futures Tournaments <hes> helping American succo. Oh I mean what if what an incredible opportunity to not only showcase the talent that we have in our country but to open ourselves up to the best talent in the world at that age I think just getting a more global perspective of it is Great. Obviously you have coaches and players and cultures and people coming together in the name of soccer. <hes> we have the best and the brightest here you know competing against the best and the brightest list <hes> from other countries and <hes> being able to showcase football in that way showcase soccer in that way in our country <hes> and open our perspective to that I think is just absolutely incredible and to have it on the men's and women's side <hes> <hes> obviously for me personally that means a lot obviously have a lot on your plate right now. So what's next for you. You know on and off the pitch yeah. There's like ten plates all yeah the the twenty twenty campaign is getting underway. No I'm. Just kidding no seriously like no I need to call. It's more of a qualification thing <hes> I think for <hes> <hes> for right now I'm just sort of taking it all in obviously trying to wrap my head around <hes> what life is now but I want to keep continuing to do what I'm doing using my platform in the best way that I know how how to talk about the things that are important to me in that I think are important to the country right now. <hes> I sort of touched on it earlier everybody has a personal responsibility <hes> to make the world a better place into have impact on the world in a positive way. I just happened to be like the famous right now famous right now and have an incredible platform <hes> with the US national team and <hes> obviously playing you know in front of America representing America so in any way that I can continue to leverage stat and use my voice <hes> to affect change in the country <hes> I'll be the loudest one out there for sure what is another very strong lady in the world of football and that's out of Hunger Berg of course you would know her very well the now what impresses you the most about how she plays her style of play. I mean who's better nine than in the Hagberg. <hes> I mean I'll say Alex gives a run for money but I mean just fantastic player incredible goal score. <hes> you know scores goes in so many different ways is obviously you know one of if not the best players on you know one of if not the best club teams in the world <hes> I mean just so impressive Seattle can be your home to come to your home anytime you want you. Just let me know what you mean. I can make it happen or at least try to make you could take my apartment. Whatever you need <hes> we would love to see you in America but I mean just a a fantastic player with a really bright future out of her definitely admire her because she's a strong woman and says that she sticks to her lawyer says well not choosing to play for the national team? What you make of that decision <hes> I mean I'm behind her? One hundred percent <hes> I don't know all the details of of why she made that decision but obviously she felt that that was the best thing thing for her and the best way that <hes> you know she can continue to fight for the things that she's fighting for <hes> admittedly I was very sad not to see her in the World Cup opposite talent such as that <hes> you know that's the stage that she deserves <hes> and I think instead of saying oh I wish you she would have played or whatever I wish. She would have been put in a position where she felt like she could played so all of the other people involved <hes> that put her in a position that she felt like she couldn't play in the World Cup. Shame on you. <hes> this is on you you robbed the world of one of the best players on the biggest stages <hes> so nothing but love and support for for ought I stand behind you know everything that she's saying <hes> it certainly was better for other teams. Norway was balling and had <hes> really an incredible World Cup and I just shudder to think what they would have been with <hes> their superpower up top just to touch back on now the World Cup because if there's one thing I mean I was envious of course of all the stuff that you guys did on the pitch but the after party that just Kerley went on almost like a Rockstar tour is actually just you know these are professional athletes. Is it still low okay going on time to relax and catchy breath. <hes> it sort of dying down <hes> a little bit. Obviously people are kind of filtering their way back to their end clubs we've been we've been forced to shut the party down. It's kind in the club when like two A._M.. And get flicked on immediately show old music and you're like into light of day again <hes> but it was yeah. Just we were ready. We were ready for it this time <hes> we were all sort of prepared to really enjoy the moment to to the fullest that we could I mean it's you know it's potentially once in a lifetime <hes> to have an opportunity to to party like this and have a parade and <hes> you know just is to have kind of the shine that we did <hes> and I think everybody enjoyed it to the the maximum of their abilities. That's true no apologies and just no regrets there whatsoever and I think that's definitely what caught everyone's is especially people outside the world of sports so did anyone reach out to you whether on social media or call you or anything that sort of surprise you and say Whoa this is pretty awesome. <hes> Jason quite a bit of Champagne the team which we yeah I mean you can't let it go away of course got drank that <hes> cash. It's hard in the mall. I mean Barack Obama's ending his congratulations. That's totally insane. I gave everyone <hes> the flutters I mean the the amount of support I mean like Lebron James <hes> shining map Carter <hes> coming up forgetting just like everyone but <hes> yeah I mean the the sort of celebrity shouts but also just normal people in the street. I mean obviously see we get sort of the kids and <hes> you know the little girls and little boys but <hes> just like old guys and women in immunized people just like stopping us in the street and showing their support <HES>. I think it was just so much. Much bigger than soccer it was touched so many more people's lives for reasons. That had nothing really to do a soccer soccer is just kind of the the vehicle that got us to this place so I feel like that. Was You know the most special thing is just seeing how far who are the rich was after how many people were <hes> you know just inspired so much. They're just like I can't not say anything to you. <hes> that's been been really special to see like you said now is slowly slowly teetering on getting back to reality and to go back to the day to day work and whatnot of course happily back to the N. w. s. l. and now I feel like with what you guys have done. A lot more is on the N._W._S.. Definitely wants to capitalize allies on that. So how do you carry on that momentum from this World Cup win to the League. I mean I think we're first and foremost we're going to put a great product. <hes> on the field obviously getting not only the U._S.. Team but all of the other internationals we have a very <hes> a very deep roster of internationals and wwl getting everyone back. The Games are going to be phenomenal. <hes> I think everyone's excited you know not only players to get back to their teams but fans to come see these players for the first time so I think the atmosphere inside inside inside the stadium would be great. Obviously <hes> the new E._S._P._N.. Deal <hes> is huge for us to be on such a big network like that's what people can watch US play if they're not in our cities <hes> and yet we're just we know how to put on a good show so that's kind the biggest selling point then just so yeah <hes> bringing those a rockstar exactly <hes> the circus continues and we're sort of <hes> the main show in it and <hes> I think we understand that the be so many more is is on us and you know for us. We want to grow the league as much as possible. The more professionally gets the more is on it the better for all the players in the end of your cell. You know we understand the national team. Players are fortunate to be a much better position than most of the players in the League so hopefully we can leverage just to make the League <hes> a sustainable place for every person that plays in it because we have growing the league. I suppose that's also something that goes in tandem with women's I._C._C. Tournament. That's coming up that you know we have the North Carolina courage that will be taking taking part in that getting to play up against the likes of Manchester City so is that something that you want to see happen more CDs and it'll be assailed clubs playing against a European clubs yeah absolutely I mean I think it's phenomenal especially with how how global the women's game has become. I think how popular our team was in France and how popular <hes> those teams are over here. Everyone is kind of like knowing who everyone is now <hes>. I think it's going to be a phenomenal tournament. I mean obviously see I would. I would like it to expand a little bit further to to get my team in there but I'm available for guests play. I doubt that that's possible. I'll take bids. Makers will do an auction type thing <hes> the no. It's it's incredible to have you know the Women's Club game on that level because obviously everyone knows about the national team in the World Cup and this and this and that but you know every player goes back and plays with an incredible club team <hes> so to be able to put that on display and see the different styles and <hes> kind of like with the Youth Tournament <hes> sort of the best in the brightest from all all areas of the world is going to be pretty amazing and with that said as well the clubs in Europe. I guess we could just start there as well. We're seeing how they're finally now investing more in their women's mm-hmm insides you know it's not just about Manchester City's man it's about women's team as well and and we're seeing that many different clubs you eventually with considering that will continue to grow. Do you see that it might create a base of a difficulty for players on the women's national team to want to go over there and play possibly for longer terms on their currently allowed now with the contract contract structure <hes> yeah I think so I mean ultimately I think we want to sort of move away from the model where the national team is basically like a club team. I think we would love to you know play a more consistent schedule all year round <hes> not just played you know sort of two friendlies a month and have most of the time being in training whether that's domestically with our league or overseas. I think we'd like to have that freedom. I think it gets better for everyone when these club teams grow and have used systems and you can kind of set a home base for that so I mean shocker you invest more money in the teams do well and amazingly. The product on the field is great so it's like one one plus one equals two business plan so yeah shocker. Would you like see a day where the U._S.. Women's <hes> players are allowed to play overseas a lot longer than they currently are allowed. Yeah definitely <hes> I mean I think for us us. It's a it's a balance right now of obviously the security <hes> is at home and playing with the national team consistently but I think eventually for the federation and for the players we would love to have you know you go wherever go wherever you WANNA play <hes> as long as you're developing <hes> <hes> with the team where you are and you're happy and you're you know being the best player that you can be to eventually <hes> win the World Cup for your country then. It doesn't really matter where you play well now. I just have to talk about you on a personal level everything that's been going on because because like I was just thinking to myself before the interview I mean I'm from Jayco <hes> I live in London my mom's from El Salvador and if it's one person or one name that people can names now from the women's national team is. Is Your name of course Alex Morgan's. They'RE GONNA put respect on shore course but it has absolutely blown up as you said now. You're just even more famous. I've thought you of course on social media. I know sometimes you still put up posts almost wondering did this really happen so you know so you make this impact that you're having now more so off the page. <hes> is something that you know you're embracing. I'm very much embracing it. <hes> I think something that's making it. Honestly easier for me is like I feel like I've been talking about these things for a while. <hes> and the team has been talking about these things for a while and now more people are listening which is amazing <hes> you know it's it's sort of not a show. No I mean anyone who knows me knows that sort of this is this is me <hes> just with a lot more more lights above me but <hes> I'm just totally embracing the moment I think it's it's an incredible moment obviously for me personally but it's so so much bigger than that <hes> so much beyond anything that we could do on the field <hes> I just feel it's a it's sort of an incredible moment in our history as a country in the world. If you think about the last few two years with you know black lives matter and time's up in the metoo movement and pay equity and what's happening in Washington right now <hes> I think it's we're sort of at this kind of you know crescendo and everyone's really frustrated and it's time to like break free and really make progress and I feel very fortunate and lucky and excited to be kind of right in the middle of that and <hes> if I'm some sort of like crazy pink cared for glared person that that is giving the right message at the right time <hes> then I'm here for it and I'm all ears and open heart and really wanting to embrace everything because I think we're at a really special moment and in the history of our country and the history of the world where <hes> we truly can change the world the better for everyone. Do you feel any pressure <hes> to try and use his new phone platform now outside of football when you eventually do decide to hang on these boots I mean I know I'm sure you see them as well but they have the Megara Piano for president as already starting starting line and social media a couple of those means but I mean it may not have to that level but you don't have you started thinking you know hey. Maybe I could actually do something Po Soko Yeah. I don't feel pressure about it because that's what I want. I want that to happen. <hes> I feel that this is the best way that I can have impact <hes>. I'm actually super excited about the opportunity. <hes> I've been well. I've been asked for ten years what I'm GonNa do when I'm done playing but certainly more recently and I'm certainly more towards the end of my career than the beginning so to be able to have this platform and to be able to you know perform on the biggest stage with my teammates and have this kind of impact back home. <hes> it's honest. It's a dream him. Come true. It's everything that that we wanted and that we've been fighting for for our entire careers. What about your family now and those closest to you? How do they say this all in obviously your teammates? This is always you before exploded ten different level now so all of them taking it <hes> I think like me. They're sort of just taking it in <hes> it's kind of crazy so they're <hes> a little taken aback by at all but <hes> you know that'd be the first ones to keep me home humble and Keith the head at a at a manageable size <hes> but I think to. They're just they're so proud <hes> and so happy for me. Obviously they've been on this journey with me the whole time a very close with my family. <hes> you know my mom's coordinating interviews at home and making sure that happy now. She's getting all of the features she's hilarious. She's like the coordinator at Home Mama Jersey Yeah Yeah. She's she's for sure <hes> the second most famous person in the family <hes> but I think they're just taking all an OSCE. I think they're just so so happy and proud and <hes> excited for what's to come now. Definitely talk about the next thing the celebration come on. We have to talk every top. Athletes has iconic celebration uh-huh same bolt has the to the world that everyone's been doing now. I find myself doing that. Meghan rupee no is there. Have you thought about it yet you know how did it happen. Just instinct yeah. I think it's just called the pose kind of ending. I did it once before the World Cup up <hes> friendly in Denver against Australia <hes> certainly not with the kind of impact that Ted now but <hes> it's a meeting. I'll see that's the thing now it's it's. It's an actual <hes> Internet name so I don't know why it was sort of in the moment and kind of off the cuff but <hes> it also obviously came on the heels of you know the tweets from the president and <hes> you know sort of these I mean they were just crazy crazy crazy tweets. I can't believe that he was taking time to three that me and not run the country but it was just this moment I actually felt like really wasn't my celebration. Personally wasn't just for me but it was like you. And nobody will take joy. You won't take our passion. You won't rob this from us. You won't take our happiness. <hes> you know we're going to stand up with smile. <hes> you know with our full chest exposed and just really he kinda put it all out there like this is what we want the world to be this is the kind of openness and vulnerability and passion <hes> and just kind of unbridled joy that we want in the world and so it kind of felt like I was doing it with everyone for everyone. <hes> in people feel free to use it. Take it with you. Use It in your job you know if you're in your office and something needs to happen. You can just bust it out and everyone will know what the deal is. Let's drove US already back at certain people on on instagram and they know exactly what you mean by in just that <hes> all right well. Let's you just mentioned of course president trump's tweets you basically saying that you know you should win first and then talk Lito they did that. Did you feel any pressure from that. <hes> during the World Cup play on your mind any it's all of course anytime before the celebration happened <hes> <hes> I mean honestly it not that much <hes> <music> I mean big credit to our media team that we had with us <hes> from U._S.. Soccer and I think we addressed it very clearly and directly right away. <hes> the team is used to having pressure in media and you know we had controversy all throughout workup for a million different reasons <hes> and it was just one of those things it was Kinda came at this funny moment that everyone I think it was more of a a unifying thing <hes> than any sort of distraction. I think the way we handled it head on was fine I don't I don't really like get him. I mentioned a lot or like even get on twitter all that much so it wasn't like I was scrolling all night and read it on the crazy comment but if anything I felt like not that we needed more motivation nation we have all the motivation in the world that we need to win and understand the importance of winning but if anything kind of united everyone around us and united the team sort of around itself and <hes> was kind of emboldening away well it also mentioned that <hes> of course you're used to having the spotlight's on you guys the pressure coming from a thousand different other things I spoke to someone you know well Heather Riley just yesterday and she said <hes> Meghan shines brightest when the spotlight is the brightest and that is definitely definitely that's a huge compliment because you know some of the greatest icons just seeing the world whether it's in sports are not always know the right moment to shine and sometimes you have it or you don't deal with so. How did you even get in that mindset or how do you tell yourself before those? Do you look back on and say. I can't believe it came through that <hes> I don't know honestly it's not like a conscious thing. <hes> I mean I love. I Love I love big moments on is do yeah I love crowds. I love that interaction. I love all of the extra sort of magic that brings <hes>. I just feel like as an athlete. There's so so many times that you know I'm working out by myself with Nolan watching <hes> which sucks. I don't like thrive on those. I'm not like nobody knows the work. I put in whatever everyone puts in a lot of work. <hes> we do all of this so I can get to the point where I'm in front of fifty thousand people and you just get to do your thing. I feel like there's those moments are so special and so rare in your life <hes> so I tried to just embrace them as as fun and energizing and and <hes> yeah. I don't know I just I'm not I'm anxious sort of in those moments to to get going and <hes> but once I'm there I just feel completely at ease and I don't try to block anything out. I think that's part of I. I think what what allows me to be so common those moments as I am taking it all in I'm joking with the rest before the game you know giving a wink to a fan on a corner kick and I'm just sort of in the moment living it and part of it and I think that allows me to just be calm in those moments and in terms of the matches now because <hes> we know that there were some tense moments here and there but not many would say that you looked <hes> which is remarkable that you were going to lose at any point but I'm sure you guys will view it differently from a technical standpoint being out there. was there ever any tense moments that you said who all right there the really pressuring this one's that you may have thought ooh this might not be as smooth sailing as we thought probably your heart as much yeah I mean there's yeah there's quite a few months. I mean obviously the France game <hes> <hes> extremely tough. We are under the pump from the you know thirty fifth minute pretty much on but I just felt like in particular in that game we sort of knew it was like we were under the pump but we knew exactly what we wanted need to do and what we were going to do to win <hes> and we were all on board in that moment we were kind of like okay is going to be more of a defensive game. We're going to counterattack. We're going to do this in that <hes> to put ourselves in a position to win and if you're going to beat us you're GONNA have to break breakdown a very organized committed disciplined team which is really hard to do. <hes> obviously the England game <hes> Elissa comes up with you know the save of her life <hes> in that moment you know I'm. <music> I'm feeling like if they score who probably come back of course I never felt like we were going to lose but to have that momentum shift in that moment was incredible <hes> and then in the final I think I think Hawn was quite tired in the final <hes> <hes> and just didn't have that extra gear obviously having one extra rest day for us and then going into overtime is very difficult to backup games like that <hes> the <hes> the France game was was definitely you know it's funny I saw so we're sitting here doing the anthems and especially at the park Prince. They have this sort of V._I._p.. Area right in front of <hes> in front of the anthems and I'm like looking up. They're always kind of just like look around and see like who's you know who's up there. What up sometimes presidents husbands are up there? Wasn't I look up there and I saw Josie Marino sitting there and I'm like <hes> Russia Russia Marino and then like in this like sixty fifth or seventy th minute I thought to myself I'm like does need. I'd be so proud of this performance Josie Marino football like or just on the counter-attack like of course I would love to play like Barcelona Barcelona in this moment <hes> and it was just one of those funny things I was like he would be so proud of this moment summit and I was like you know in order to you know to win the World Cup. You have to be stout defensively and <hes> have that kind of unrelenting discipline <hes> that sucks especially as an attacking player WanNa do is but it's also like this is what's working so the nitty gritty you gotta dig deep sometimes can't me the Ticky tacky walking into the goal yeah well now of course after the World Cup as we have said. I feel like it's definitely growing the women's game a lot more at least has made made people respect to the women's game lot more which is still unfortunate that that's something that we still have to fight for in this day and age which of course then goes into the whole equal pay which you are definitely a massive campaign or four and I know it's not as easy as one two three. I know it can't it'd be a snap of a finger to make it. All you know to make us all find a solution tomorrow as much as we want but for you what is what could be the biggest most simplistic to to at least getting closer to that. I actually think it is a lot closer to snap a finger than it than it is far away from it <hes>. I think that there needs to be a major paradigm shifts oftentimes that's difficult but if we sort of take a few steps back the federation takes a few steps back. What are we doing? What are we doing in here? Do you WANNA be fighting constantly and have this contentious relationship <hes> with sort of the darlings of America right now no and where's the world going. Are we going towards equality. Are we going to is their gender pay gap. Yes have women you know Oh. His historic ventured unequal yes have they been under invested in yes. So what are we doing like. What's the issue? You have tons of money that you're sitting on you know over one hundred million dollars in cash probably more. You're nonprofit. <hes> you have the opportunity to completely change the narrative and really truly be a world leader in the way that women's sports is viewed in handled in the way that you're you're treating treating the team and the precedent you set going forward to. I actually think the federation is <hes> in a fantastic spot. If they're willing to step up to that charge I think that you know the the potential positive fallout for to them <hes> if they sort of get on board and <hes> have their sort of come to Jesus moment would be incredible if they want to be the world leaders in soccer. Were hosting the World Cup in two thousand twenty six <hes> we would love to host another women's World Cup <hes>. I think that this could truly be a groundbreaking moment. We talked about this sort of being a historical moment as is <hes>. I don't understand why they don't want to be this sort of kings in the moment and then finally now I mean I'm clearly not from the United States <hes> but but I feel we're definitely time where people are almost having to try and prove their Americanise so to speak which is you know interesting to save as an outsider looking in S. T. U.. What does what does that mean to you? What does being the American means and especially in this day and age? I think to me I consider myself very patriotic. <hes> I think if we want to consider ourselves one of the greatest nations in the country ah in the world which we certainly want that if we want to be one of the most powerful if we want to be sort of beacon of morality and progress <hes> then we have to look ourselves in the mirror constantly be asking ourselves what we can do better. I think we have incredible resource in this country. I think we have the talent pool I think we have the ideals that we want but we have to live up to them so for me that means constantly looking in the mirror and constantly trying to make progress. We still have incredible homelessness in this country. We have an absolute catastrophe happening at the southern border. We don't have adequate healthcare. We have <hes> you know mass incarceration. We have <hes> you know childcare issue. It's like it across the board in it. It's okay that we're not perfect but I think being American means looking in and trying to make things better. I don't think it shows weakness. I think it shows a lot of strength to be able to identify your weaknesses and then.

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FC Exclusive: Megan Rapinoe

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FC Exclusive: Megan Rapinoe

"Welcome in the E._S._p._N.. F._C. Exclusive Interview with Meghan Repeal or Alexis Nunez sat down with the U._S.. Soccer Star over the weekend a chat about life after winning the World Cup the future of American soccer how tweets from the president impacted the U._S. Locker Room and so much more so here it is Alexis Nunez and Meghan Reno back at this World Cup. What do you want people people to remember from it? <hes> big question. This World Cup was about so much more than <hes> just the World Cup <hes> I think I want people to understand what we have to take on as female athletes all of us sort of every player in the World Cup and <hes> just the the amount that were capable of. I think that <hes> obviously having to perform on the field is one thing for all the athletes but sort of what we have to do to get to that point and still put on the most incredible show <hes> can be difficult at times but I feel like <hes> <hes> the women's game just put on such an amazing <hes> performance all the teams all of the players <hes> I hope people realize the potential of the women's game and interview with meet the press you had said that you feel a national final team gave people. It was really all about taking the next step forward in progress for you. What does what does that look like? I think it looks like a lot of things <hes> depends on on sort of arena. You're in talking about you know our relationship with the federation and what we have coming with them. <hes> I think progress step forward would be a major paradigm shift <hes> from them and obviously equal pay and <hes> talk about compensation but really just how they view the women's game in the way they invest in it and <hes> you know the huge potential that is there if we really double down on it and make that big investment across the board <hes> I'm here for talking about society obviously <hes> I think I I really hope that this team myself have inspired people to feel like there is something important that they can do and that they have a responsibility to do. I think it's sort of overwhelming at times to especially especially in this climate to know what to do and sometimes I think people feel as if they don't have a huge platform there's no impact to be made but I think that everybody has a personal responsibility to make world better place in whatever way they can hope people feel inspired that whatever small part or large part that they can play that that's an extremely important part of moving things moving forward and making this place a better a better situation nation for everyone now. The Women's team is definitely done a lot for the growth of the sport here in the United States and the men side we have seen a lot of steps taken especially club level to do you think is key to continue growing the sport here in the U._S.. I think a huge investment in in the youth <hes> as really where it's at obviously <hes> you get to the highest level <hes> and it's pretty obvious what needs to happen but if we really want to be <hes> you know global heavy hitter both on amendment <hes> on the women's side and on the mid side I think it's really important to invest in the youth and specifically <hes> youth of Color and underserved communities. I think that there's <hes> a huge miss happening right now. In our country without if you look at the basketball system or the football system <hes> <hes> you know if you're good enough you play bottom line and I think in in soccer <hes> it's more of that paid play model and were <hes> sort of ignoring communities who might not have the ability financial or otherwise to participate dissipate in the highest level of soccer so focusing on those areas and sort of building our superpower from the ground up. I think is is the best way to do that. Speaking of the youth so beautifully touched on then so how'd you see the icy futures tournaments. It's <hes> helping American succo. Oh I mean what if what an incredible opportunity to not only showcase you know the talent that we have in our country but open ourselves up to the best talent in the world at that age. I think you know just getting a a more global perspective of it is great obviously you have you know coaches and players and cultures and people coming together in the name of soccer <hes> we had the best in the brightest here you know competing against the best in the brightest <hes> from other other countries and <hes> being able to showcase football in that way showcase soccer and that way in our country <hes> an open our perspective to that I think is just absolutely incredible and to have it on the men's and women's side <hes> obviously for me. Personally that means a lot obviously have on your plate right now. So what's next you know on and off the pitch yeah. There's ten plates all around yeah. The the twenty twenty campaign is getting underway now. I'm just kidding uh-huh asked me. You're GonNa do seriously think that I was like no need to quality we'd call it's more of a qualification thing <hes> I think for <hes> for right now I'm just just sort of taking it all in obviously trying to wrap my head around <hes> what life is now but I wanNA keep continuing to do what I'm doing using my platform in the best way that I know how to talk about the things things that are important to me in that I think are important to the country right now. <hes> sort of touched on earlier everybody has a personal responsibility <hes> to make the world a better place into have impact on the world and positive way I just happened to be like famous Mr now crazy famous right now and have an incredible top form <hes> with the US national team and <hes> obviously playing you know in front of America representing America so in any way that I can continue to leverage that and use my voice <hes> to effect change in the country <hes> I'll be the loudest one out there for sure what another very strongly in the world of football and that's Idaho Berg of course you know her on the peach know what impresses you the most about how she plays style of play. I mean what who's a better nine then then the Hagberg <hes> I mean I'll say Alex gives her unfor- money but I mean just fantastic player incredible goal score. <hes> you know <music> scores goals in so many different ways. Obviously you know one of if not the best players on you know one of if not the best club teams in the world <hes> I mean just so impressive Seattle can be your home to come and could be your home anytime you want you. Just let me know what you me. I make it happen or at least try to make you can take my apartment. Whatever you need <hes> we would love to see you in America but just a a fantastic player with a really bright future out of her? You definitely admired because she's a strong woman says that she sticks to her Laura's well well not choosing to play for her national team. What Schumi of that decision I'm behind her? One hundred percent <hes> I don't know all the details of of why she made that decision but obviously she felt that that was the best thing for her and the best sway that <hes> you know she can continue to fight for the things that she's fighting for <hes>. Admittedly I was very sad to see her in the World Cup of talent such as that <hes> you know that's the stage that she deserves. <hes> I think instead of saying oh I wish you she would have played or whatever I wish. She would have been put in a position where she felt like she could played so all of the other people involved <hes> that put her in a position that she felt like she couldn't play. Play in the World Cup shame on you. <hes> this is on you you robbed the world of one of the best players on the biggest stages <hes> so nothing but love and support for for Oughta stand behind you know everything that she's saying <hes> it certainly was better for other other teams because Norway was Paulin and had a really an incredible World Cup and I just shuttered to think what they would have been with <hes> their superpower up top just to touch back on now the World Cup because if it's one thing I mean was envious of course of all the stuff that you guys it on the pitch the after party that securely went on it was almost like a Rockstar Tori. Actually just you know these are professional athletes. Is it still low key going on. Have you had time to relax catchy breath. <hes> it's sort of dying down <hes> a little bit. Obviously people are kind of filter in their way back to their and clubs we've been we've been forced to shut the party down. It's kind of like in the club when two A._M.. And get flicked on immediately and then the old museum and you're like in the light of day again <hes> but it was yeah just we were ready. We were ready for this time. <hes> we were all sort sort of prepared to really enjoy the moment <hes> to the fullest that we could I mean it's you know it's potentially once in a lifetime <hes> to have an opportunity to to party like this and have a parade and <hes> you know just to have kind of the <hes> the shine that we did <hes> and I think everybody enjoyed it to the maximum of their abilities as true no apologies and just no regrets. They're out whatsoever. I think that's definitely what caught everyone's is especially people outside of the world of sports sports so did anyone reach out to you you know whether on social media or call you or anything that sort of surprise you and said Whoa. This is pretty awesome. <hes> Jason quite a bit of Champagne. Oh Hey the team which we yeah I I mean you can't let it go away so of course that. <hes> cash is hard in the mall I mean Brock Obama's and in his congratulations that's totally insane. I gave everyone <hes> the flutters I mean the amount of support I mean like Lebron James <hes> shouting us out mccarter <hes> I mean I'm forgetting just like everyone but <hes> yeah I mean the the sort of celebrity shoutouts but also just normal people in the street. I mean obviously we'd get sort of the kids kids and <hes> you know the little girls in little boys but <hes> just like old guys and lemon minimize people just like stopping us in the street and showing their support <hes> I think it was just so much bigger this the soccer it was it touched so many more people's lives for reasons that had nothing really to do a soccer soccer. It was just kind of the vehicle that got us to this place so I feel like that. Was You know the most special thing is just seeing how far the reach was us after and how many people were <hes> you know just inspired so much just like I can't not say anything to you. <hes> that's been been really special to see like you said now <hes> it's it's slowly teetering on getting coming back to reality now to go back to the day to day work and whatnot of course happily back to the N. w. s. l. and now I feel like with you. Guys have done a lot more is our on N._W._F.. Celine definitely wants to capitalize on that so so how do you carry on the momentum from this World Cup win to the League. I mean I think we're first and foremost we're GONNA put a great product. <hes> on the field obviously getting not only the U._S. team but all of the other internationals we have a very <hes> very very deep roster of internationals in the end getting everyone back. The Games are going to be phenomenal. <hes> I think everyone's excited you know not only players to get back to their teams but fans to come see these players for the first time so I think the atmosphere inside inside the stadium idioms great obviously <hes> the E._s._p._N.. Deal <hes> is huge for us to be <hes> on such a big network like that's what people can watch US play if they're not in our cities <hes> and yet we're just we know how to put on a good show so that's kind of the biggest selling point point then they sell yeah <hes> reading those the Rockstar exactly <hes> the circus continues and we're sort of <hes> the main show in it and <hes> I think we understand that the be so many more is on us and you you know for us. We WanNa grow the league as much as possible. The more professionally gets more is on it the better for all the players in the end of E._S._l.. You know we understand the national team. Players are <hes> fortunate to be a much better position than most of the players in the League so hopefully we can leverage just to make the league. <hes> you know a sustainable place for every person that plays in it speaking of growing the league. I suppose that's also something that goes in tandem with the women's I._C._C. Tournament. That's coming up that you know we have the North Carolina courage that will be taking part in that and getting to <hes> play up against the likes of Leon Manchester City so is that something that you want to see happen more see these N. W. S. L. Clubs playing against the European clubs. Yeah absolutely I mean I think it's phenomenal especially with how global the women's game has become. I think hell popular our team was in France and how popular <hes> those teams are over here. Everyone is kind of like knowing who everyone is now <hes>. I think it's going to be a phenomenal tournament. I mean obviously I would. I would like get to expand a little bit further to to get my team in there but I'm available for guest play. I doubt that that's possible. I'll take bids acres. We'll do an auction type thing. <hes> the no. It's it's incredible to have you know the Women's Club sub game on that level because obviously everyone knows about the national team in the World Cup and this is at and this and that but you know every player goes back and plays with an incredible club team <hes> so to be able to put that on display and see the different styles and <hes> kind of like with the youth tournament ornament <hes> sort of the best in the brightest from all all areas of the world is going to be pretty amazing and without set as well the clubs Eden Europe. I guess we could just start there as well. We're seeing how they're finally now investing more in their women's size you know it's not just about Manchester City's Madison Women's team as well and and we're seeing that with many different clubs you eventually with considering that will continue to grow. Do you see that it might create a piece of difficulty four players on the women's national team to you want to go over there and play possibly for longer terms on their currently allowed now with the contract contract structure. Yeah I think so ultimately I think we want to sort of move away from the model where the national team is basically like a team. I think we I would love to play a more consistent schedule. All Year round <hes> not just played you know sort of two friendly's a month and have most of the time being in training whether that's domestically with our league or overseas. I think we'd like to have that freedom. I think it's better for everyone when these club teams grow and have used systems and you can kind of set a home base for that so I mean shocker you invest more money in the teams do well and amazingly. The product on the field is great so it's like one plus. One equals equals to business plan so shocker. Would you like to see a day where the U._S.. Women's <hes> players are allowed to play overseas a lot longer than they currently are allowed yeah definitely <hes> I mean I think for us. It's a it's a balanced balance right now of obviously the security <hes> is at home in playing with the national team consistently but I think eventually for the federation and for the players we would love to have you know you go. Wherever go wherever you WANNA play <hes> as long as you're developing <hes> with the team anymore you are in your happy and you're you know being the best player that you can be to eventually <hes> when the World Cup for your country? That doesn't really matter where you plan well now. I just have to talk about you on a personal level everything that's been going on because <hes> like I. I was just thinking to myself before they interview. I mean I'm from Jamaica. <hes> I've been living in London my mom's from El Salvador and if it's one person or one name that people can names I mean now from the Women's national team is your name of course Alex. Alex Morgan's there's you've got to put respects on her ashore but it has just absolutely blown up as you said now you're just even more famous follow you of course on social media and I know sometimes you still put up posts almost wondering did this really happen you know so. What do you make of this impact that you're having now more so off the pitch? <hes> is something that you know you're embracing. I'm very much embracing it. <hes> I think something that's making it honestly easier her for me is like I feel like I've been talking about these things for a while. <hes> and the team has been talking about these things for a while and now just more people are listening which is amazing. <hes> you know it's it's sort of not a show. I mean anyone who knows was me knows that sort of this is this is me <hes> just with a lot more more lights above me but <hes> I'm just totally embracing the moment I think it's it's an incredible moment obviously for me personally but it's so much bigger than not so much beyond anything that we could do on the field. <hes> I just feel it's a it's sort of an incredible moment in our history as a country and in the world if you think about the last few years with you know black lives matter and time's up the metoo movement and pay equity and what's happening in Washington right now <hes> I think it's we're sort of at this kind of you know crescendo and everyone's really frustrated and it's time to like break free and really make progress and I feel very fortunate and lucky and excited to be kind of right in the middle of that and <hes> if I'm some sort of like crazy pink cared per person that that is giving the right message the right time <hes> then I'm here for it and I'm all years in open heart and really wanting to embrace everything because I think we're at a really special moment and in the history of our country and the history of the world where <hes> we truly can change the world for the better for everyone one. Do you feel any pressure to try and use this new phone platform now outside of football when you eventually do decide to hang over these boots I mean I know I'm sure you see them as well but they have the Megara Piano for president campaigns already starting online nine and social media may have likes a couple of those means as well but I mean it may not have to go to that level but you know. Have you started thinking you know hey. Maybe I could actually do something post Soko Yeah. I don't feel pressure about it because that's what I want. I want that it to happen. <hes> I feel that this is the best way that I can have impact <hes>. I'm actually super excited about the opportunity. <hes> I've been well. I've been asked for like ten years what I'm GonNa do when I'm done playing but certainly more recently and I'm I'm certainly more towards the end of my career than the beginning so to be able to have this platform and to be able to you know perform on the biggest stage with my teammates and have this kind of impact back home. <hes> it's honest. It's a dream come true. It's everything that that we've wanted and that we've been fighting for for our entire careers. What about your family now and those closest to you how do they they saw because you said your teammates? They knew that this is always you before. But of course it's just exploded different level now so are all of them taking it it <hes> I think kind of like me. There's sort of just taking it in <hes> is kind of crazy so there <hes> a little taken aback but all but <hes> you know that'd be the first ones to keep me home humble and keep the head at eh a manageable size <hes> but I think to. They're just they're so proud <hes> and so happy for me. Obviously they've been on this journey with me the whole time very close with my family. <hes> you know my mom's coordinating interviews at home and making sure that you know she's getting all of the features Don. She's hilarious like the the coordinator at Home Mama Giraffe Yeah Yeah she's she's for sure <hes> the second most famous person in the family <hes> but I think they're just taking all an OSCE. I think they're just so so happy happy and proud and excited for what's to come now. We have to definitely talk about the next thing the celebration that is come on. We have to talk about because of course every top athletes has their iconic celebration. I mean he's saying bolt has it to the world that everyone's been doing now. I find myself doing the Meghan repea- no is there. Have you thought to my name yet you know. How did it happen to just instinct yeah? I think it's just called the pose <hes> kind of into I didn't once before the World Cup <hes> friendly early in Denver against Australia. <hes> certainly not was the kind of impact at a tad now but <hes> it's a meeting. I'll see that's the thing now it's it's. It's an actual <hes> Internet me so I don't know why it was sort of in the moment and kind of off the cuff but <hes> it also obviously came <hes> on the heels of you know the tweets from the from the president and <hes> you know sort of these I mean they were just crazy crazy tweets. I can't believe that he was taking his time to me and not run the country but it was just this moment I actually felt like really wasn't my celebration. Personally wasn't just for me but it was like you and nobody ready will take our joy. You won't take our passion. You won't rob this from us. You won't take our happiness. <hes> you know we're GONNA stand up with a smile. <hes> you know with our full chest exposed and just really kinda. Put it all out there and like this is what we want the world to be this is the kind of openness and vulnerability and passion <hes> and just kind of unbridled joy that we want in the world and so it kind of felt like I was doing it with everyone for everyone. <hes> <hes> in people feel free to use it. Take it with you. Use It in your job you know if you're in your office and something needs to happen. You can just bust it out and everyone I'll know what the deal is. That's drove US already to get back at certain people on on instagram around with and they know exactly by in just that all right well. It's good to mention of course president trump's tweets you basically saying that you know you should win first and then Talk Lito did that. Did you feel any pressure from that. <hes> during the World Cup play on your mind that's all of course anytime before the celebration happened <hes> <hes> I mean honestly it not that much <hes> I mean big credit to <hes> Armenia team that we had with us <hes> from U._S. soccer and I think we addressed it very clearly and directly right away <hes> the team is used to having pressure in media and you know we had controversy all throughout the World Cup for million in different reasons <hes> and it was just one of those things it was Kinda came at this funny moment that everyone I think it was more of a unifying thing <hes> than any sort of distraction. I think the way we handled it head on was fine I don't I don't really like get him. I mentioned a lot or like even get on twitter all that much so it wasn't like I was you know scrolling all night and reading on the crazy comments but if anything I've felt like not that we needed more motivation we have all the motivation mission in the world that we need to win and understand the importance of winning but if anything it kind of united everyone around us and united the team sort of around itself and <hes> was kind of emboldening in a way we had also mentioned that US <hes> of course you're used to having the spotlight on you guys on the pressure coming from a thousand different other things spoke to someone well Heather Riley just yesterday and she said <hes> Meghan shines the brightest when the spotlight is the brightest and that is definitely a lot less a huge compliment because you know some of the greatest icons just in the world whether it's in sports are not always know the right moment to shine and sometimes you have it or you don't because that is a lots of pressure to deal. So how did you even get in that mindset. So how do you tell yourself before those. Do you look back on his say who can't believe I came through that. <hes> I don't know honestly it's not like a a conscious thing. <hes> I mean I love. I love big moments. I I do yeah. I love crowds. I love that interaction. I love all of the extra sort of magic that it brings <hes> I just feel like as an athlete. There's so many times that you know I'm working out by myself with Nolan watching <hes> which sucks. I don't like thrive on those. I'm not like Oh. Nobody knows the work I put it in like whatever everyone puts in a lot of work. <hes> we do all of this so I can get to the point where in front of fifty thousand people and you just get to do your thing. I feel like there's those moments are so special and so rare in your life <hes> so I tried to just embrace them as fun and his energizing and <hes> <hes> yeah. I don't know I I just I'm not I'm anxious sort of in those moments to to get going and <hes> but once I'm there I just feel completely at ease and I don't try to block anything out. I think that's part of I think what what allows me to be so common those moments I am taking it all in. I'm joking with the rest before the game you know giving a wink to a fan on a corner kick and I'm just sort of in the moment living it and part of it and I think that allows me to just be calm those moments in terms the matches now because <hes> we know that the worst tense moments here and there but not many would say that you looked <hes> which is remarkable that you were going to lose at any point but I'm sure you guys would be differently from technical standpoint being out there. was there ever any tense moments that you said who all right. They're they're really pressuring us and this one's that you may have thought Oh this might not be as smooth sailing as we thought probably your heart is much yeah. I mean those yeah. There's quite a few months. I mean obviously the France game <hes> a Shenley tough. We are under the pump from the you know thirty fifth minute pretty much on but I just felt like in particular in that game we sort of new it was like we were under the pump but we knew exactly what we wanted to do and what we were going to do to win. <hes> and we were all onboard in that moment we were kind of like okay. This is going to be more of a defensive game. We're going to counterattack. We're going to do this and that <hes> to put ourselves in a position to win and if you're going to beat us you're going to have to break down very organiz committed disciplined team which is really hard to do. <hes> obviously the England game <hes> Elissa comes up with you know the save of her life. <hes> in that moment you know I'm feeling like if they score score will probably come back of course never felt like we were gonNA lose but have that momentum shift in that moment was incredible <hes> and then in the final. I think I think Hawn was quite tired in the final <hes> and just didn't have that extra gear obviously having one extra rest day for us and then going into overtime is very difficult to back up games like that <hes> the <hes> the France game was was definitely you know it's funny I saw so we're sitting doing the anthems and especially at the park to Prince. They have this sort of V._I._p.. Area right in front of <hes> in front of the anthems and I'm like looking. They're always kinda. Just like look around to see like who's WHO's up there. Whatever sometimes presidents are up there or whatever it was and I look up there and I saw Josie Marina sitting there and I'm like <hes> Marino and then like in this like sixty fifth or seventieth minute? I like thought to myself unlike Josie would be so proud of this performance performance folk ball like or just on the counterattack like of course I would love to play like Barcelona around playing like Barcelona in this moment <hes> and it was just one of those funny things I was like he would be so proud of this moment and I was like you know in order to win the World Cup. You have to be stout defensively and <hes> have that kind of unrelenting discipline <hes> that sucks especially as an attacking platform like I don't want to do this but it's also like this is what's working weekdays ticky tacky walk into the goal right yeah well now of course after the World Cup as we have set. I feel like it's definitely grown. The women's game a lot more at least has made people respect the women's game a lot more which is still unfortunate that that's something that we have to fight for in this day and age which of course then goes into the whole equal pay which you're definitely a massive campaign or four and I know it's not as easy as one two three. I know it can't be a snap of a finger to make it all to make all find a solution tomorrow as much as we want to but for you what is what could be the biggest most simplest step to to at least getting closer to that. I actually think it is a lot closer to snap a finger than it than it is far far away from it. <hes> I think that there needs to be a major paradigm shift and oftentimes that's difficult but if we sort of take a few steps back federation takes a few steps. What are we doing? What are we doing here do you? You Wanna be fighting constantly and have this contentious relationship <hes> with the darlings of America right now no and where's the world going. Are we going towards equality. Are we going is their gender pickup. Yes and women you know historically the bench unequal yes have they been under invested in yes. So what are we doing like. What's the issue you have tons of money that you're sitting on you know over one hundred million dollars in cash probably more ear nonprofit <hes> you have the opportunity to completely changed the narrative and really truly be a world leader in the way that women's sports is viewed in handled in the way that you're you're treating the team and the precedent you set going to actually think the federation is <hes> n._F._l.? tastic spot if they're willing to step up to that charge. I think that you know the the potential positive fallout for them. <hes> <hes> they sorta get on board and <hes> have their sort of come to Jesus moment would be incredible if they WANNA be the world leaders in soccer. Were hosting the World Cup in two thousand twenty six <hes> we would love to host another women's World Cup <hes>. I think that this could truly truly be a groundbreaking moment. We talked about this sort of being a historical moment as is <hes>. I don't understand why they don't want to be the sort of kings in the moment and then finally no I mean I'm clearly not from the United States <hes> but we're definitely take time where people are almost having to try to improve their Americanise. She'll just speak. which is you know interesting to save as outside looking in so to you? What does what does that mean to you? What is being an American meets a unit and especially in this day and age I to me I consider myself <hes> very patriotic? <hes> I think if we want to consider ourselves one of the greatest nations in the country or in the world which we certainly want that if we want to be one of the most powerful if we wanna be sort of beacon of morality and progress <hes> then we have to look ourselves in the mirror and constantly be asking ourselves what we can do better <hes>. I think we have incredible incredible resource in this country. I think we have the talent pool I think we have the ideals that we want but we have to live up to them so for me that means constantly looking in the mirror and constantly trying to make progress. We still have incredible homelessness in this country. We have an absolute catastrophe happening at the southern border. We don't have adequate healthcare. We have <hes> mass incarceration. We have <hes> you know childcare issue. It's like ah across the board and I it's okay that we're not perfect but I think being American means looking in trying to make things better think it shows weakness. I think it shows a lot of strength to be able to identify your weaknesses and then make them stronger and.

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Sue Bird and Megan Rapinoe

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1:02:03 hr | 8 months ago

Sue Bird and Megan Rapinoe

"And now the low has welcome to the low post podcast where week four quarantine America things are getting a little dicey but hopefully we're all gonna stay strong. You get through it and I am thrilled to be joined on this podcast by. I don't know two American heroes. I don't I don't even know how to introduce you. We have a three time. Wnba CHAMPION TWO TIME. Ncaa CHAMPION FOUR TIME. Olympic gold medalists sue bird. Friend of the program. How are you? Are you getting next to her? Is I mean the American flag for like a year two time World Cup champion one time Olympic gold medalist right just one connor slackened on that And the reigning Fiba World Player of the year. Megan Regino how are you? I'm doing well doing well here. My resume is shorter than some peoples. But it's still something spectacle idea I just joined include myself I beat my daughter and shoots and ladders this morning. That's actually I mean. Considering little kids cheat actually very impressive she she those cheap regular. I'm one in seven against her during the Corinthian. That was my you could say that was. My Olympic gold medal. Really might be a turning point in that series. She's worried that it is. I can tell you. She didn't take a well she's a little work a little worried that I'm about to rally I'm also Ping Pong. I guess I I'm pretty confident I might be able to like take you as a ping pong. So that's it that's all I got You are quarantined together. What have you learned about each other from what? What have you learned about each other from this experience that you didn't know because I always tell people marriage is like the little step living together. Is that what you're like super living together? So give me something one of you that you have learned about the other. I mean yeah we were business assets. Were not leasing our way out of this early in our relationship we had a lot. We had this kind of time together. Like it's just the way it played out. Our schedules were conducive wearing out of season. Yeah yeah so we like basically did quarantine for the first couple months relationship like essentially living together even though that technically so now that we're doing it again it's more so like all these things. We were joking like confirmed a lot of a lot of confirmations. Haley confirmation like oh. Yeah she leaves late on in. Every room confirmed That's Meghan Meghan media where we go. Megan I turn them off when you leave turn off. I remember when my now wife and I moved in together I had I got to the apartment. I was coming from Canada and I walked into this apartment and I had this realization of like. She's now going to know everything a like. She's going to realize how disgusting I am like all of my habits like like she's GonNa learn all that and I had this moment flake. Oh my God like this could be two weeks ago two weeks and that could be it could be. You guys are doing well. That's where Meghan came at hot. It was like she just showed all her cards at out the gate. I knew exactly what I was getting. Us coming right at yourself right at home right at home so she leaving. The Lights on is fun. You just flip them off like that's the that's I know. I have a weird thing though. I don't like when you're not in the room I don't like I know it's weird. I know that's where I'm like really Beth kind of easily. So then it's like you know. I have to understand that this is something that she cares about my love language my language to respect it and I'm like do the give and take like okay. I I'm trying to. We've had a lot of confirmations okay. 'cause the first quarantine early anything early in their relationship doesn't count bliss. You're interested you're in it's like you're in the AL gets. I'm glad to hear it's going. Well the Olympics have been postponed for a year the WNBA season just just got postponed indefinitely. What yesterday I think want so now. It's like now and there's going to be continue to be ripples of this like we don't know when the NFL's GonNa Start. We don't know when college football's good start is baseball season. This is gonNA keep happening but you're to sports. Big things just got postponed so like a. Is there a light at the end of the tunnel? Like went like. How are you guys handling like now? It's we just don't know right. Yeah it's awkward that I mean to be honest it's like there's there's kind of moments where Sony Olympics got postponed. I was actually thrilled because it was postponed. Not Cancel 'cause to meet canceling was like a bit like that was a real option so that postponement. I was Kinda like minute. Also took like workout pressure off but then very quickly. I was like like I being shaped for the WNBA. Like when and if that ever happens so then now. I think we're both kind of in this like awkward. Like some days feeling motivated like. Yeah the virus going to go away the seasonal start when it starts. We gotta be ready and other days. We're like we're definitely not playing sports for another like six months. Like why are we running outside? Like what are we doing? So it's like an awkward. I know I feel like motivation. Zoomed into zoomed out. We're kind of like okay. If you corentin all the players and then you bring them back and then you don't play zoom out and you're like what what we're not getting on planes flying where like how are we. We're not. We're not even close to as you know even in the country of like a having a handle on it or even understanding because it's so new I mean we can look to China. We can look to whether doing Italy and South Korean other places but like we don't really know as like a humanity what this is going to be. How can we creep back out of this? What does that even mean in sports is kind of like? It's it's an essential thing like to the way we feel like really. It's not like an essential essential things so we've kind of like gone to the zoom zoom out but also. I think we've sort of let ourselves be like okay. Like just do what you can work out for health but also you know we're probably going to be in this for a minute or six it's GonNa be. It's GonNa be a while I know I saw. Jj Radic's podcast. I can't believe he finagled guys. You're talking about indoor workout. You're talking about who we are. My wife and I have been doing this seven minute workout for the last year like pretty regularly when we don't have time to do anything else to step up so part of that critical thing that you guys mentioned that podcast you got to land on the carpet because if you're in an apartment building you can't be landing on the floor and everything. You're still obeying all these roles. I am more lenient. She's a little more. I'm like you know what if the people in the floor five underneath us is exactly one hour of trying to train? We're GONNA have a problem. We're having down in the lobby. You really do that. Actually I do. I get like really aggressive but this building had like. I'm sitting on that podcast. This building has like rules. You can't even vacuum during the day or like I forget all during the day it's like afternoons and nights doctor. I've never heard of vacuuming vacuuming probe. Are there lots of babies now? Let's it's more of an older offices. I don't think I respect. I respect the elderly schedule. You know what they've earned it. They've earned you guys. Not vacuuming in the middle of the state needs to watch. The price is right or whatever. They got schedules. Sewer what are you? Are they going to pay you in the WNBA? There's no games the question we don't know so we have no idea because we have no idea what's going to be if there's GonNa be a season obviously if it gets like a certain point. Let's call it August and things turnaround. Then we would only be able to do like a limited season. So what does that mean for pay but I can tell you what we don't have. Is that whole force majeure thing. We don't have that. That's not far yeah. Da so that kind of you know like you just said makes a little interesting. So we'll see I mean it's so it's so funny we have these conference calls and they're great because it's like you know Cathy Engelbert. Our new commissioner will be on our union and she's like keeping us like in the know and obviously she's having major conversations. She was just on with president all that stuff but then simultaneously. It's like we have no answers you doing this dance. Yeah and it's like we'll know when we know but it's nice to be kept again the no but then it's like we don't know anything. Nobody has the answers. Luke changes next week. Yeah literally like the next week tomorrow. It'll be a different she. I know guys in the NBA. Who Work for teams or like. They spent all day like crunching. The numbers acquits. The CAP GONNA BE. What about the salary cap in twenty twenty one and they all have these moments of like? Why am I doing this? Like what is the point of me like I wasted four hours on something? That's probably not going to be relevant in forty eight hours Well I hope everyone gets paid and that the WAC's can start at some point Who is better? I will know before we before we get onto that. I The serial segment of the JJ radic. Podcast struck a chord with the American populace. I just a big deal and I have. I had some issues to take. Captain Crunch is disgusting. Disgusting agreed straight up discussing. I cannot remember the Fiba World Player of the year name became captain crunch as a serial. And so you guys you. We've known each other while now some somehow I never knew. And now my my respect for you as deepen finally somebody gave the proper respect to what I contend the greatest serial ever created by humans. Cookie Crisp keep number one best now. You didn't have it in number one but we'll never mentioned it's a it doesn't even get mentioned it's like it's like. I'm trying to think of the NBA team. That it's it's like the like a champion from the nineteen seventy s that no one even like the seventies sonics or something. No one ever mentioned he is number one. I mean let's back out. I told you about on the podcast. That was when my sister and I got good grades. You got to get the sugary cereals and Cook. Your was always number one even before lucky. Charms back then but then lucky. Charms stole my heart more disgusting. The captain crunch cat. Nah that we had in our house. We had sugar cereal month. We had a month. Let me tell you. I could do a boxer day of cookie crisp like I could do thirty boxes in a month of cookie. Chris Underrated Syracuse. Are you ready? I really put a of thought to this underrated. Cereals Chris. Books underrated home. Honeycomb honeycomb under underrated I agree. Chicks kicks solid underrated. Although we just had this conversation a couple days ago not in-depth like this but somebody was like Oh. It was our friend's daughter and she was like I like rice krispies and a meal like Oh my God how could I forget about rice? Krispy treat cereal. That was brought that up on the PODCASTS. I think and it is incredible. I feel like two thirds of the way through a bowl of rice. Krispy treat cereal. I begin to regret the decision a little too much. Either eight game. I just need to just cookie. Crisp. It's the best serial. It's indisputable anyone who's picking another number one is wrong that's the end. It's my podcast in Who who is better suet? Soccer or Megan. Bastable get this a lot. Did do get this a lot I think if like we had to rewind and we're you know we're both in high school and we're having to push on your your better soccer for sure than I was the best I mean. I'm like five six Not Overly so. There's not a lot and not against. He's actually really good basketball player. So like the the short answer is when we're both nineteen eighteen. Nineteen on the better soccer player than she is the Basle player but now she's definitely the better. I can't even. I can literally do one thing. It's basketball my body like freaks out if I do anything else rebounder. She is a good rebounder. He Your door saying of course until her arm circles arms Passes are like are you running or you bang. Are you catching it? And like you know banging the ball between your hands like like flares naked rebound so it really makes a big noise into. Yeah sometimes unlike if if I'm really feeling it and if I've got some good grace going all just do immediate put back. Yes which is really annoying really annoying to build up some good Nice Joe Ryan to do a workout and she gets like reverse layup. I'm like I'm just trying to get through this workout. Yeah it's your job eurostepped later. Ooh Yeah working on my way back working on I try to. I try to do what I'm supposed to do is then. That's you know what them. Therefore you know what she would be really good at though you can literally take over that guy be dot and that other guy that he always. The immigrant goes yes. She's like you'll be nominal go-to so he. He actually just did like a collection of my storm teammates summer and it was spot on like scary. Maybe we'll do a little video. That will be that would go by without definitely going viral. We'll do it together. Okay okay. Who who who would you analogize yourself to in the NBA? Megan earned the WNBA. Who who are you who's your NBA or Wnba Cop? If you played basketball would you be a chucker? Would you be a pass first player? Which play any defense would you? What would you be? I'd have a lot of fouls that was about to say aloud after tight in that part of the game up Gosh I don't know I do love passing. I like passing Yelling good lengthier the fun loose. I'd probably have not a great turnover to pay issue. You have the clutch gene. Yeah let's we can't argue with that anymore now. You got the clutch gene. I don't even know how many think of a pass first point guard fouls a yeah like click crimes. Isn't that good at defense? Like a not. Not I mean not even close to Steph like kind of like a step loose are you like are you like. We'll do the fun. Things also like have some wild ass turnover like Luca Luca. What's he's doing all the sports not just start naming like first team all NBA. Love me like right off the bat. We're GONNA have a loss lesser version. And now we're back to back up. Point guards backups. Your Lucas backup. Is that Jose Abreu Perfect Jay. No he's either. One is financing. How much trash talkers and Soccer Meghan? Not that much like the field I think is so big and everyone's running around so much Sometimes there's like a little bit. I don't really talk trash but definitely like in the league. I like to just kind of talk. I'm actually talking all the time like especially in training. 'cause I'm just like what are we. What else we doing out there? You know. We're come sit in between drills so everyone knows that if you're going to be around me on my side I'm just constantly just like Jackie. I guess it's kind of track but it's not. I'm not like doing it. I do a lot of this. Like hand. Waif like that a lot of commentaries just a running commentary for negotiated for what sue was. The was the World Cup hard to watch because I find soccer like absolutely agonizing to watch. I said man my wife. She's Croatian so he got to the Croatian World Cup. I just ask. I couldn't watch the Games. I couldn't watch penalty kicks your actually emotionally invested in it. Was it hard for you to watch? I think the hard part and I might be putting words in your mouth. It's like it's a sport where so like unfamiliar with so we have no sense of what the control is right. It's like basketball and I watch a basketball game. I see someone at the free throw line. I can like relate to that and be like. Oh yeah this person should make this but in soccer. There's like all these unknowns on what's makeable what's not what's this. What's that so she says Emotional Roller Coaster So the hardest parts I've said was watching her. Take penalty kicks again. Not because I was ever nervous. She was going to miss other small part of you where you're like. Oh my God if he misses is going to be bad to deal with it but it's more so like so I would. I would find myself being like all right. This is if I was on the free throw line. There's five seconds left at the game. And it's like okay. She's got because that's like something I can relate to. It was the unrelatable where I would find. That's where I get like anxious. Yeah you're more of like an internal internalizing while you're watching your emotions. I think I'm like a super crazy. I'm just like the normal fan section when games were like. Get it out so I can really do. I couldn't watch penalty. Kicks were unwatchable for me when I watch curl. They're kind of hard especially like when you go to the shootout like just one off is less but like in the cruelty of ever gonNA walk up and walk back and it's ten times time in this offense like so do you know making. Do you know any without naming names because this would be me even if I were a professional soccer player. Do you know any players who are like you know what? Just please never pick me to be. One of the penalty kick taker. I'm opting out of it. I don't WanNa do like actually kind of semi serious. Are there players that I mean kind of? Yeah we definitely have like well we practice them all temps that we do have a like a running sheet of like your percentage and how good you are like you know. We have like. Who's best on down? That would be. Who would take them? But then we definitely like end like even before. We're like listen if you're terrified. Say it because some people are like you know even sometimes it's like a player you wouldn't think maybe it's like a defender or something or like someone who you wouldn't think would be really good at penalty kicks. They're just really good. And sometimes someone who you think would be art. Like if you're terrified Just say it so we can put your the bottom of the list. Five players back. Yeah and some players only on like I'm not that comfortable taking like I I'll take one if I have to of course if I'm number ten or eleven on the list but like yeah some players in I encourage them like just be honest. Just 'cause like we need to have like everyone who's like once I want people who are like willing to like bang someone out of the way to take when I want those people up there. It's like it's a stressful thing. Where that's very comforting for me. That there are high level athletes who are terrified of it. Because I I wanted to watch sue. What is the most nervous? You have been in a basketball game whether it was a free throw. I imagine it has to be some static. Moment where the yeah. It's the free throws but what game. What moment yeah so In Russia so this is like this. Actually yeah in Russia they have is actually like a European thing not. Everybody subscribes to it. But a Lotta Times. It'll be a tie game. So let's say so. This is exactly what happened. My Team Spartak. We were we. Were Up to other team. Had the BAUGH. Let's call it twenty seconds. I know yet they come. They run a play they score. They tie the game so now. Let's say there's ten seconds we come out so the tie game in America. You just play that out and you count on your defense. A LOT OF TEAMS IN EUROPE. A lot of coaches. They have a different philosophy whether we want to have the ball last so they value so even though yeah so even though the scores tied. You're now on the foul if you miss so there's like I said seven to ten seconds. If you miss they now have the last shot. That's those two free throws out 'cause I first of all it's not what we had run a play. We call timeout Bali. Yeah I was like. Oh it was right on the inbound vow I was like Oh my God it caught me by surprise and then as I approached the free throw line I was like Oh like why off game or a random regular a regular season game but it was. There was like seating implications like we had to win the number one seat if we lost probably straight up oligarchs in front of an older like. It's why don't WanNa do that. Yeah you don't WanNa do that. They're holding up the scar. You don't WanNa do that A did you make them both in both. Why don't they are you? I bet you're like an eighty nine percent career free throw shooter. Why are they failing? You doesn't check out. I want to have the ball last. Well don't can't. They fell someone who shoot sixty percent ten seconds. But you were that nervous. What did you yourself down nothing. It's like we're talking about like taken abilities to sculpt there and shoot it I feel like I do the pre thing. Where might you know sort of even before the game or before tournaments even start life for the World Cup? Whatever I've already gone into my head and been like okay. There's a scenario where it goes into penalty kicks. We're in the final the World Cup. I Miss I lose the World Cup for the country. You've lived that scenario in your head like yeah so then I get there. I'm like well I mean. What could you know it's like so? That's what I told my team. There was a few like younger teammates who were like Honda stressing about the penalties. Not Make listen literally the worst thing that you could do is like lose the World Cup your country like yeah like just say it like. Don't be afraid to say 'cause like could happen you know. Just verbalize wow lost. The most for an entire nation of people worst. Well here we are instead of getting to that moment in your they could lose this whole thing for the nation and then like not as scary. Yeah you try and make it. Try to take the power one nine to get it. I've ever done that make it? What is your hottest basketball take? It could be anything could be a player. That's headed could be away. You would change the season. It could be any. What's your hottest take when you guys are watching games? Oh Man I mean I always have a lot of opinions GA source my hottest take a heartache taste to something you've said. I don't know I feel like you need help me. I'm trying to think who say I always like because I just watched his a fan like I don't like totally I mean. I know it's going on a battle for a long time like I don't know all the INS and outs I'm like. Is this player. That good like what is up with this player. Or what are they like? Are they going to win the championship? This Samat Michael. I mean the rockets are Never GonNa win like that never. It just can't happen it just like no matter. How Good James Harden is like I mean. At least I've never seen it in. You're never gonNA be invited to Sloan ever all analytics know that there are more. I'm like it's like he has to perform at like you know apex levels for every game of the whole laid playoffs. You basically in order for them to win. It's just it's not gonNA happen. I like it that satisfied. That satisfied Yasser other question to say it. But it's not gonNA work so on a more serious note Some within the last year in Sioux Road of wonderful essay about this for the Players Tribune. Both of your lives changed. I would imagine and they changed. Because Megan became a symbol of lots and lots of things and some of the things that she came to embody symbolize. How can I say this annoyed? The president of the IDC who expressed his annoyance so mega. I already know the answer this from reading some articles. But was there ever a moment where you were thinking to yourself this overwhelming? Like maybe you got five hundred text messages in one day Or maybe a thousand. Because I don't just like from even my buddies in the media when you suddenly become part of a story in a way that you're not expected to it can start off as exciting and it can quickly transition into. I KINDA WANNA hide in my hotel room until this blows over but you. I don't think you ever felt that right like you were just like bring it. Let's go yeah I really didn't and to this day like I know the magnitude of I mean first of all like any president tweeting at you like even when I see stuff in the past of life you know brock bomb holding up a a Jersey or I've been to you know You know the Bush Whitehouse and I've been to the Obama White House like there's a magnitude of the president and then you put like you know trump in that like that's just insane and so two hadn't like go off like that like in such a weird. It was all like Lychee too. I was like wait. You you're are you in your routing Flores 'cause you you love America and you want us to win but now you're rooting against ask us and it was like. I'm like you're having a full on glitch out right here. So it's like I know the magnitude of it but it never I never had that gut feeling like Oh man. This is bad I was kind of like you look bad and I just need to own it and the only really thing that that I did wrong. Like say the F. Word if that's even like wrong thing and just kind of the way. The tournament was playing out to like. We were sort of in a bubble but you always have those media moments and it was kind of like. I don't know I think the team and myself we were just kind of like in this little bubble sort of primed for it anyways and it just sort of added to the magnitude in I don't know I just. I love those big moments too so I felt like the World Cup was exploding and it was like so popular at this game. That whereabouts against France was like the game that everyone had circled in. I feel like I had much support in like within the team within the group like we had our president was there and like You know other like high members from. Us Soccer Obviously coaching staff. The team everyone was like we got your back so I feel like if everyone else was a little bit more stressed out in like exposing that to me or you know kind of saying that maybe I would have had that feeling but everyone just kinda like. That's why old and I was like I know. Can you believe it and I was like already scheduled to go to the press conferences? Discount said it right away and then I just I don't know I just like there was just nothing that was gonna get in the way of of US winning and doing doing our job feel so I feel like as long as we just focused on that then I was like you played yourself. Why is it speaking of which I read a clip when you were talking about this and you said actually the only thing that was really worried about was. Is this going to affect the team? And I assume you meant like our people get just going to be stressed out from answering questions about it are people gonna like. Is it just going to become such a thing but nothing right yeah? It really didn't and I think my team had the same response. They were kind of like. Oh my God. This is so wild. Like you've got trump trying to take you down onto it or like two days before we played the big game of the World Cup. Like this isn't so there's almost like of course. The presidency has a magnitude could also trump doesn't take his job seriously. A lot of ways in doesn't act presidential and You know sort of just goes off the handle all all the time about these things. So that sort of lessened the importance or seriousness of it in this way because he had done this with so many people across so many different things in different athletes as well so it was kind of like. Of course he's GonNa say we'll we're not invited. Anyways it's like we already weren coming so I can resend that invitations. I quit. You can't fire me. Did you have to switch phones? I didn't I just get that day. I just can't even imagine your phone. Just must have been like a lot. I actually don't do a lot of comment reading as is I've always. This is just like people. Explained is not such a great team around. Amin Shah at my agency to Were like furious on the back. End like doing all kinds of work in cybersecurity. I got a lot of like reset your account for snapchat recently out for you know a lot of kind of like cyber hacking going on but I was able to keep my interesting Su- as that was happening. Did you know you embrace it to you? Wrote this awesome piece for the Players Tribune. That what like crazy popular they win. So it's a it's a great story area like whether you agree with the politics. Don't U S. A one the big thing we can all get behind that But did you have a sense of this is happening of like life is not going to be the same after this like going to restaurants when we used to be able to do that is not going to be the same just like regular life is not going to change because Meghan went from famous athlete super famous in the soccer world to like one of the most famous people on Planet Earth for a period of time. Yeah no I didn't know if that makes me like I don't I don't know realize no I had no idea I don't even remember. I don't necessarily remember a moment either. I had some friends who kind of joked with me and they'd be like I forget exactly what they would say they'd be like. Oh like your Megan's girlfriend now you're immune to be like like Meghan up and I was like. Yeah whatever I don't know and then very quickly. After they won it was like. Oh boy very quickly as soon as we got home. Yeah yeah it was like. Oh it's different. Yeah or even like I think the best. The best example is at the. Sp's so something tell you maybe the people at the viewers watching at the SBA during commercial breaks people can kind of get up and move around and there's a lot of fans in the audience like whether actually to be honest. There's some athlete fans like people who are athletes who are fans of each other and then there's just like little kids or families or whoever and it's like Patrick. Mahomes is sitting next to me and he's getting his fair share. Megan getting like swarmed. So here we are at the. Spf every big-name. Chivalry take every commercial break. Megan is getting absolutely swarmed and I was like. Oh like right. So who's the person who's the person you met subsequent to all of this where you were like again. This is someone who embraced the storm and was fine with it but there had been a celebrity that you met where you were like. Oh my God. I'm meeting whoever like for me. It was like what like what I see what I saw. Denzel Washington. A foot away from the Lakers. Like holy that's who who was nobody. Yeah I mean. I generally don't like totally geek out on celebrities. I mean there's a espy's like Tate Donovan. Beeline for those Donovan. She was like who like nursing. Never seen never skied left ocean. Number nine going Anderson Cooper Cooper so doubt over you though. Biki outnumber you though. I'll have to think on that. I mean I just like the outpouring of support like I mean. It's great that obviously we won like our sport you know is like growing and becoming more exciting and becoming more popular but it just seemed like people are so excited for such a different reason. That was the coolest part about it. I think so one so like this person. Also like Grooved out on Megan Hard Laura dern so you were on Seth Meyers and she was like like went over to the. Us Really Cool Meghan. Once for like. I mean even now to be honest but during that stretch you're making celebrities fans like big celebrities. Boomerang it was. I think I they got actually a photo like I were. It was Halloween and treating people were like multiple children in my neighborhood. By the way I thought it was very cool. Both boys and girls were dressed Ohio and as you loud voice over the summer at that was cool. That was really cool Something I didn't know until I was reading up does does whereas repeat no Dinnertime family conversation at right now because I didn't know your dad is is maybe a conservative. Republican. And you guys bad arguments Are we are we are we? Are We talk every day? Everything's fine yet I just. I can't say that can't be true. There's now it's funny. I think people assume that I'm like yeah born from coast to next. I'm like you know I mean. I'm raging liberal but most of my family pretty much all of my family We're from small town role in California and most of them are quite conservative. I mean I think we're just honest with each other in like I obviously don't agree with it with a lot of holidays and I'm always trying to like get in there and talk about it and Just sort of like yeah I guess just you know. Say My view. And they say there'd be I mean. It was a little awkward for sure after the election in two thousand sixteen number. Almost like. Just give him a chance. Okay okay so let's do that so here we are but yeah it'll it'll be interesting coming up to coming up to this election. We'll see I'll definitely beginning The family conversation defect And I mean this in the most serious way possible. Did it affect the way that You and your family understood the corona virus. In other words. There was all this is Fox. News downplaying it are people who get their views from Fox News. Not behaving appropriately. Not Social distancing quickly enough like did you have. Did you have arguments about that? Like guys behave. This is a real thing. Yeah a little bit in the beginning and I think it was two part I mean I think that My Dad particular watches more conservative media than than liberal media. I think my mom's kind of like in the middle but they're also like from a small town. We were in big cities when this was happening. Soon as in Seattle when Kirk nursing home kind of went off and then we both have east and West. We're both like in the Newark area. So we were kind of like it was sort of like in our face a little bit more happening to us more and they were like in a really small town. They still only have like a few cases in their town. So I think there was like kind of double the sort of coupling But I think right away like I basically spent twenty four hours on the phone with my mom being like. This is frail. You can't go out. Get your nails done. You can't have a family dinner and so just like kind of took a minute in it. Yeah I have a little nephew to and like he's just like all kids right now are like okay like we're going to stay inside like can. I just hang out my friend. Tom had laid the hammer. Damn she liked threatened to kick them out of the House. He was like wait. What what do you mean? She's like? Yeah you heard me take everything. If you want to go hang out with your friends you can take all your stuff and you're not coming back until this is lifted but overall though they're they're fine now they got on board rapidly. We're going to get back to the family. To second sue. You brought up Russia in demanded. I didn't request. I demanded that if you're going to appear on this podcast I needed one Diana Tarazi's in Russia's story because I could hear five hours of them but give me a long way in Russia story so I felt on a safe one so just op disappointed right off any. There's no they get a little. I feel like I would need written permission from her. He doesn't really know so so every year. After this. After at some point during the end of the season they have like a sports banquet and they honor like the best player but they also so they do best male Russian player best female Russian player and then best like foreigner that came to leaks obviously like myself Diana on at that time Jackson on the team. But there's all kinds of great players so it's best farner. There's an award for that too so D- was like probably going to get it. And so we go to the banquet and the whole banquets in Russian actually sidebar This is one of my favorite stories. for another reason which is it happened to be like the twentieth anniversary or something maybe thirtieth of when the USSR beat America in that very controversial ending where they replayed it they had to replay it. Three boys two Olympics. Okay so they had to go into the court the court but the the irony is as an American. Now Mind you the entire banquets in Russian. We have no idea what's going on zero but I can see highlights and they're basically showing only showing the last one. Oh boy only showing the one where they score they win. It's over and all of a sudden they're like what about the other highlight? We're the socialist interesting. They would show the rest so anyways they finally get to the part where they're about to announce the female foreign player of the year and Diana world. Kind of saying there and she's like what do I do? I feel like gold there and give a speech and they're like yeah like players like all the Russians who had gone up before her gave a speech again all in Russian. We have no idea what's happening. She was like all right. Like I'll do my best. So she goes up there and our head coach at the time. Her name was Nata and Our owner his name was shop high and so she goes up there she gets worn. She's in front of the Mike and she goes and in Russia means thank you. And she goes spassibo data specific shop tie SPASSIBO and walks off and we were like okay. Like move on next award is like the male farm player and it was a Greek player. You probably know him Papa. Lucas I think last name is one of the Lucas is yeah. We'll get back to really good played for Really good he goes up there like. Oh you know this guy wins. He goes up there he start. He's like hey. I just went all in English. I WANNA say a big. Thank you to my teammates. Like dis gotten and my coaches like odd played. You now for a couple of years like I'm so much love for Ceska. I love Russia. I love playing. He didn't like this full on speech and we were like rigging idiot but see but not placebo. Split CBA lifers only played overseas one year and it was in in France. I had imagined like is probably even more of a culture change along time ago in Russia you spent ten years. It's like ninety percent. You have no idea what's going on ten percent of the time you know something kind of what's going on so you'd basically just spent like ninety percent of times being like no idea none. Nobody no idea what we're doing in practice. What time practices where we're going? What's being said the jokes like you just kind of like a like a la La overdose At all responsible. However you will be one off record. Shots Vodka shots with the editor registering. I'm going to cash in. They usually end up in her vomiting. I'll start with. What are the all time? Great Trash talkers. Somebody somebody in the league once told me they literally had to go to Diana but WNBA officials had to go to Diana this like five years ago. Maybe I'd say you can't say these things to the referees. It's quiet the people in the front row can like using like worse than received while it's like at the Floyd Mayweather Story. Don't think so. Okay so okay. So he so he. He's gone to a lot of sparks games in the past so he was sitting courtside like an at. La Sparks Games. They actually have seats where they're like at the table. So he's like literally at the table next to the Phoenix Mercury bench. So he's like right there and I think it started out like somewhat friendly rule who do Thuban and Diana not going to back down is like talking to you. Know John Back to mayweather who I don't even know what the actual trash-talk was at that point but it was a lot of back and forth. She's playing coming out the game. Talk and talk and talk so at one point. I don't know what she said but she said something that pissed him off so at one point she something. I'll find out what it was and he goes. You know what D- I'm going to buy the mercury. I'm a changed the name to the sparks and I was like damn the ultimate shutdown. She had no comeback She's like a buyer team and changed his name to the sparks. So what you're still GonNa pay me my money. I'm going to own you might salary. That's gone that's not a good. It's the one time she's ever been silence. It's hard to say so she should have been able to get back. She should have been able to have a retort. That's pretty good though. I didn't know the Floyd Mayweather was a frequent attended a sparks game. Learn on your Megan one of the One of the most moving stories of sports journalism. I have read in the last year and I was not familiar with it before was about your brother Brian who has been in and out of prison for a long time for various drug related offenses And the last story that was written was right before the World Cup. Final was a big one that I had read How is he now in? Where is he now is doing all right? Eight he is in Orange County. I think he's clean at the moment. had had a couple couple hiccups over the summer. Couple OF RELAPSES. So that was kind of a bummer. And kind of sad. But that's like the journey to be honest. I mean I think that's like the one thing that I've kind of learned throughout this all as it's not like you get sober and you're like okay. I'm sober you know it's like an everyday choice. Just kind of how quickly things can change both for the good and for the bad But he's doing all right now Getting clean and getting back together. It's kind of scary time. Obviously there's a lot of sort of like vulnerable populations right now has been a lot of talk about you. Know the prison systems in. How they're they're just right for outbreak at rikers. Like it's just kinda crazy you know we've already had overcrowding everything and then throw a pandemic in there but overall He's he's doing alright. So thank you for asking. I thought it was an he literally almost lived to some degree like an American history. X kind of story. If renting a black nationalist in prison having that change his views although I think you know his adoption of white nationalism is explained in the story was sort of a matter of convenience insecurity rather than actual belief. But I'm reading. It started like this is a crazy story is unbelievable story. And it's so touching that you guys have remained close in like family can sometimes. It's winter apart in. That didn't happen with you guys. Yeah now it's it's been I mean. Obviously it's been hard. It's like you know something that the whole family has to deal with all the time. But I mean that was the reason why I wanted to share the story too because like I think. There's so many misconceptions about you know what a person in prison is like. Or how they got there or a drug addict or white nationalist or whatever it may be and like the juxtaposition of me and him coming from the same exact family like basically the same exact upbringing. I just thought was like important to tell. I think there's like too much misconception about that story doesn't get told enough that it's literally just like you know your your normal people and You know him coming of age as we now during the opioid crisis in just a thank like how much of that was going on when he was growing up and it was just obviously totally unregulated wild now but I thought that was kind of important story to tell and it's something that I'd never have shied away from in our family just in general as somebody who is just part of it. I guess brother Drug Addict in a lot of people do so. Felt like I'm GonNa be as open as I am about everything else in my life that that was something I need to be sure to will. I think it's important because you know before anything happens to people. They have this idea that these are things that happen to other people. These are just like these are crazy stories. That happened other people in like as you get older in your social circle expand your family social circle expands in you your loved ones change or go through stuff like what you think is crazy is actually an outlier story is actually not at all and these kinds of things are gonna hit everybody. We all know people who suffer lots of different problems. And I think it's important to normalize it and just say yeah. This isn't like someone to be ashamed of. This doesn't make us like wildly. Different is actually GONNA hit everybody. Yeah I mean especially in in the context of mass incarceration in the OPIOID crisis. Like you have sort of these two things happening at the same time. As incarceration from a social justice perspective is always is usually seen rightfully so disproportionate Affecting people of Color Black and Brown people. But there's just been a lot of people swept up in Mcgruther like obviously he needs drug treatment. He doesn't need to go to prison and spend you know he's going to be forty. The summit doesn't need to spend twenty twenty five years of his life in and out of prison like we've we've gotta find a better way for this and also like with the opioid crisis so many people were affected in like honestly. It's not their fault like we're told to trust. Our doctors were told to trust our healthcare providers. And you have some of these. Especially these smaller towns. Rural towns remained. Economy is not great at education in. Great. You don't have a lot of opportunity like horse we're GONNA turn to that. And that's where these big companies honestly dislike feasted on these small towns in pumped it in there I think there's a there's kind of a famous story one of the West Virginia towns is a town of like three or four hundred people some Wanna a Pulitzer prize like a out of the Charleston. Gazette I think it was. You just read a book smallest Spas newspaper to win a Pulitzer Prize. But this town of like three or four hundred people in there was like twelve million opioid pills like come into this town over four five year period and so two dislike wrapped up into tell that story until like humanize what the opioid crisis means. Hasn't people don't really realize that like it was flooding streets essentially yet. It's an issue that I'm passionate about what feels like a different life. I used to be. I used to cover the criminal justice system and there was a six month period. Where every week Wednesday evenings I would drive up To bridgeport Connecticut in sit in on like a prisoner reentry group of guys who had just gotten out of prison and we're trying to put their lives back together and it was guys who had done everything from violent assaults. That would scare you if you heard about them to drugs to like you know. Made him like a burglary or something and like like you could see. Most of these guys are good guys in jest. They had no. They had no shot. 'cause nobody was going to hire them. They were so stigma stigmatized society stigmatize him so deeply that you'll some of their families didn't want anything to do with them. Some did but they couldn't get hired and you just it would break my heart listening to them talk because even the guys who had clearly turn to page and figure some stuff out. This was their sanctuary. This was a place where they felt at home and accepted this group and once they left they were still the guys that had been in prison. They were still the ex-cons and it was just. It was breaking because you could just see like it just wasn't gonNA work. We'll all their cut out from to as soon as you go to prison in. Have Felony on your record like you can't vote. You can't get this job. You have to file as a as a felon all the time you have to put it on all of your resumes you have to. You know it's like every time you get a Dang than like the employer's going to be like wow. I can hire this person. Who has felony organized person who doesn't have felony? It's just like there's gotta be a better way that we take care of people in our society. I think we always see it as this like. Oh these these people are choosing this life there. Whatever but it's like I'm sorry like yeah okay. My brother was eighteen or nineteen. Whatever he he made his choices. But it's like now he's however old he is and he's just been cycling through the prison system for however long now this is what he knows. society's not doing a lot to to help him know a different way. It's at every step of the way. Prove this prove this. Prove this prove this. Prove this and it's like there's at some point there's got to be some kind of help in some kind of responsibility on societies part as well. That's like the federal government does a drug companies. All of it like you know Pretty far my opinions should not have a dollar in their bank. They should be paying for everybody's drug drug facilities. But you know there has to be some sort of responsibility as a society that we take for for all of this. Let's end unhappier notes. Megan I was looking up who Some of your sports heroes were in. We'll get to that. But it struck me like Su who were your sports heroes when you were growing up Spy Tara's euros I don't know yeah now so usually like the person inspire me the most quote unquote when I get asked. It's actually my sister. Who's five years older and I always say like? I did everything she did so if she you know. I don't know play tennis. I was in a play tennis and I joked luckily at some point she picked up a basketball but how great to have somebody who was really motivated very good in school super smart very good at sports Like I said just extremely a motive to this day just a very motivated person. I had that to look in you know. Look at every day in my house With my favorite player growing up if you take it way back. It's actually Kenny skywalker. Yeah I know. I'm a Nick Fan. And you know when you're like six or seven what do you want to see? I don't know a guy was dame top. Listen exactly and then as I got older. I became a huge fan of Mike. Bibby salvage like around high school days. big fan of Mike Bibby Big Fan. I could see some similarities. There actually well. I always say I'm like we both were number. Ten were both scoring point guards. Right down jump shooters right. And we're both bowlegged third as check a- by the way can you come? I mean you've worked for the Denver Nuggets. Can you come save the Knicks? Maybe call him. I've had that conversation I'm like. It's the Knicks call and offer you. What would they have to offer you? X? Amount would you do? What do I know about saving an MBA? I was going to say I'm first of all you've worked for the Denver Nuggets. They all speak highly of you clearly know the game and the cab. I think you know enough Super Megan the name that came up when I was reading about it about who you looked up to as Christine Lilley and I was so happy to to read that because a choose from Wilton Connecticut near where I grew up in Connecticut. Legend and be she made one of the all-time bad ass not forgotten. Because people remember it. Hard core sports fans remembered the header off the line against China in the nineteen ninety nine World Cup on their corner kick. That was going in. It was the goal within Conway. That is an all time bad as sports play it was. It was actually unbelievable because those those types of roles like ninety nine percent of the time. Nothing ever happens and so they usually put people who like aren't very good at heading that like I would. I would probably be like are graded defense. Kind of like the fringe. Players are like okay. This is likely not going to happen. So good on the post or you. Kinda like put him like a little bit farther out the Corner Guy. You put your strongest people in the middle. And they're the ones going to like challenge so for her to like stay locked in and be focused in that moment and like not fault because a lot of people falsely a lot of people will be standing on the post as a ball like now goes right by their head which is like such a heads up play and she's always like so creative. I feel like that team had so many superstars feel like she was like a superstar but like not given credit for it and just how impactful she was on that team and I got to play with her like late in her career. Early in my career misuses so cool like so down to Earth Channel. Took a few of US under her wing and just was like yeah I get it like basically just like she's like I know I'm like Christine. Lilley to you like I'm like yeah. I had like posters of you on my wall. She's like yeah. I get that like okay. Let's I was Gonna ask you as someone who never played soccer so every watched that clip today the clip from the ninety nine World Cup final and I thought okay. It's a corner kick. I remember it was a corner kick. So she's already there in that position so I wanted to ask you like how like how unusual and how hard of a play actually is that. If you're in that like in my head it was in the run of play and she liked it was like the Derrick. Jeeter flipped to home plate where it was like this great improvisational thing but it wasn't really improvise. What you're telling me it was still like a super hard play time. It's actually harder because you have to be like doing everything that you're supposed to be doing thinking ahead. Being in the right position like being disciplined focus. It wasn't one of those like athletic play. Sometimes those are like easier to make your just in the moment as an athlete. You just like get instincts. You'll do those things. Those are the ones where like you're like I did not do it. I was sue and like you're out of position by one foot in like you know they don't win the World Cup south to me. That was just like her. Like discipline mentality always was just like top notch. Goods is an all time? Great sports play and Christine. Lilley is a legend. The last thing. Bill Simmons and I had this discussion at the end of our podcast last week and I feel like because we all need to be We all need to be cheered up. I'm going to ask everybody that comes on this question Either one of you. What is the hardest? You have ever left in a movie ever and I'm not it doesn't have to be clever. Joker artful joke just like what is the thing in a movie that just made you flat out. Laugh the hardest on my answer. I will reveal it too so that you know in the moment in the South Park movie when they begin at the when terrasson fill up at the beginning of the movie begin to sing. The song uncle realized that this is what the movie is going to be. And Hey the music is really good. It's clever that is the hardest. I've ever laughs at anything. I'm a runner up answered. That may approach that. I can give later but this was like it's a safe space. Okay you Ace Venture. Oh for sure as mentor was on. Tv Yesterday asked. Yeah it was on TV yesterday. So an on. So something we've been doing during this quarantine is we have like a Sunday brunch with like five other people and we're on facetime and we literally hang out from like noon to ten PM. Not even joking like you come in and out and so at one point as from touro was on so throughout like that two hour period we were just doing lines like Alabama's back and forth each other and you just forgot how golden skyway to s you a few questions repeal like five times for Halloween and my childhood like Jim Carrey. That's reading I thought about this. A little bit like Asian tour is like fresh so it's obvious You can by all means continue to line up so the two that came to mind that I remembered was in Borat like I. I really enjoyed. Borat like to me like that. Comedy scenarious uncomfortable character in West uncomfortable at times at the end when he's like Pamela. He's chasing her in the parking lot. You've probably seen it then. The worst I've seen him now. Megan doesn't know but obviously at some point I know he's being taught these American sayings and one of them is not but not getting it throughout the movie and then at the very don't love you and she's literally running. It's Real Pamela Anderson. She like really thinks this guy is like talking and then I don't know where he goes. No not lost all my God lost. It was not expecting it even though. It's so obvious when you think about it was not expecting it so good and then the other Mike close second is the final scene in hangover. When they're like guys we've got this camera and they go through all the pick you can use been head ride round right right and they go through all the pictures. That was going to Mega Ace Ventura line in particular that you would like to honor or a moment or a moment. It's not just lines as I agree by the way as mature as hilarious and holds up very very. Well it's just so funny I don't even know if there's one thing I do like to ask you a few. Yeah well I can tell you my serve other day. She did it the other day. My top like you actually acted it out. Yeah I had to give me about something and American hero. Now it's to. What's your runner up? Which I might. I think the best joke ace. Ventura is when he's getting into the empty pool. Which is like a five minute toward the force Courtney Cox if I'm not back in five minutes just way longer. He's like that. That is an objectively fantastic joke. And then the whole thing in the pool and when ace goes to the Party and introduces himself as Tom. Ace and goes to the whole James. Bond thing goes back with Paul. He almost falls asleep the whole thing. We traveled back in time. Thing is gold if he's like bring it on right and we get off here. My my runner up for in-theatre senior of high school dumb and dumber. Hi Jim Carey movie so far. Jeff Daniels in. Why am I blanking on the actress? I can see your face off in my head. Her name is Lauren. Holly are going on there little ski date that is Jim Carrey skied. It and she playfully throws a snowball at him. North winds up ducks release. Early fell out of my seat in the movie theater. Airline was with. I think thought it was obnoxious that I thought it was that funny but it was just the shock value of like. Oh this is going to be the joke because you see it coming in that it dawned on me like he doesn't understand what flirting is and he's just. GonNa gun this a close-range face I almost might share all day. My favorite scene in that is the news for her car. I'd keep that one is maybe I don't know what the kids like. And like what? People is dumb and dumber underrated or is it have its proper like dumb and dumber is is a masterpiece. Follow up days fentor. Yeah no I think it gets it. I think people appreciate it young good. Is this hard to follow up Of Soga and we were saying how like of all the movies in the world. Ace Ventura has the Best Sequel. Like the simple good wasn't the same but it was good. I was just. It was pretty good. I was just so heartbroken that it wasn't quite as good as Ventura was a formative formative comedy from you. When you had brought the game to this question I have taken up too much of your time and I priced birthday party. That I'm wait for. Thank you so much for doing this. It's easier to talk to. I guess congratulate. I should say is we say. Congratulations on all your success. You smell terrific. What congratulations and everything. I hope we get to see you guys play sports soon. Stay healthy and stay safe. And that's it thank you thank you.

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Megan Rapinoe, Apryl Jones & the Garlock Fault?

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Megan Rapinoe, Apryl Jones & the Garlock Fault?

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I happen to listen to that Terry Gross interview with her and you've probably seen this too but it seems like she was misquoted in a lot of the headlines she never actually elite says she doesn't say that the CO star She's referring to was insects in the city but she does seem to be referring to the period of time in which she had a lot of <hes> power in the industry which made me think it was a movie filmed during her sex in the city time <hes> but that's not even explicit about that so it could be any movie anytime those seems likely more recent uh-huh so I'm hoping that you all can please speculate again about who you think it could be. <hes> love you both so much clay Aitken and Greece and then there's one more call wjr. Hey guys I just pop episode. You're talking about the sex in the city movie star that S._A._p.. Live reported <hes>. I don't think that it's maximum autonomy only because they also were in <hes> failure to launch like well who knows when the movie came out but I feel like if he if she reported him she probably would divorce him again leader on <hes> in in route so I don't think Johnny Hey <hes> I feel like maybe I shouldn't take guesses my feeling it's probably will Arnett I just there's just there's just survive bye bye anyway. <hes> you guys rocks Nina in Greece of sometimes if you thought buying us we reported that it was an actor of movie star in Sex and city but then other places reported that it was I was just somebody in her career so you're right like will this person actually listened to the interview and said that no it's just someone we were going off this US weekly headline which was ended up being very wrong and they misquoted her like and then just misconstrued completely so now the thing is like it's even vaguer then there's even more options than we can even imagine because it's like in anything she's ever done in her whole career. Somebody who she wouldn't have worked with again like Matthew mcconaughey yet you even <hes> make make make it explicit about the gender of the person fair you know it could be Helen. Hunt and girls just WanNa have five Helen Hunt could be a problem that you dry your into this Helen's a professional <hes> but she did say movie star because she said movie star. I think a lot of people were saying like oh I will Arnett. I think will Arnett definitely gives off sleazy squeezy like not so friendly vibes. I know your argument was actors have no sense of themselves or each other but I really think that it's hard people like will Arnett literally hasn't been in movies. You Know T._v.. O._s. a big star a big star like I just it just doesn't seem like would she get specific. On what type of would you say big T._V.. Star or big it just like you would just say like in big actor that you got a big Dr Yeah so maybe accurate I mean we you'd have to weed through career at this point. It's like there's so many people that she's worked with and and she really did not specify a time. I mean Diane Keaton. It's Diane Keaton isn't Craig t Nelson sort of an asshole. I'm thinking family stone. I have no idea what he's like. I like him because apparent. I have no idea what he's like a a photo Greg Nelson. I have no idea what he's I know him. I don't know him but yeah I mean this is a tough one. I don't really want to speculate on anymore. I don't know like we know what's going to the first question. Hi PAPI is Lindsay <hes>. <hes> I'm a long-time listener first-time touch Leila's subscriber <hes> I'm calling about earthquakes and false <hes> it's stopped shaking. I'm calling for Kern County and it's not ah shaking but there's been a lot of earthquakes and everyone's like Oh. This is the sanitary so and Dr Luc's on the TV. She's damn of earthquake scientists <hes> and if you live in L._A.. Who knows who she is but I just wanted to say that San Andreas fault is a stem fault but now it's not the San Andreas fault? I actually had to like hang up when I first called him. Look at the actual fault it 'cause. I couldn't remember what it is but it's the garlic salt salt and so it's a very heavy fault but <hes> it's been putting on quite a show for us and so yeah. I just wanted to say that sanitizers at them. I don't even think that there are any other thoughts that I can think of that are as Demi as unsanitary is that so yeah just wanted to call about that. Okay Good Foreign Baladora crunch crunch you angry Yada Yada okay by Lindsey. Can you name another big fault line. I mean I'm not saying this to be like. Hey Bitch. Can you can do because I can't either. I couldn't name another fall. I only know San Andreas because of the movie. I think that's the only hotline I actually two or lick this Gorlic so funny they by Gordon the reason I wanted to play this calls number one. We have a lot of listeners in California so I feel like earthquakes are very top of mind for me too and I'm not in California. GotTa say number two. I always think of when I think of a faultline San Andreas number one them. I can't think of any other ones I feel like it's the only them faultline at least in America. There's definitely than me faultlines outside the ring of fire the ring of volcanic activity in the Pacific cool but I can't think of another of another fault line which leads me to suspect that every other faultline in America is a WHO and this just proves is it. We've liked personified the big one to be the the most important impending thing in the big one you know as resting on when you mentioned the big one you have talked about San Andreas fault line right like that the Cascadia the cascadia default system. I guess you listened to the podcast right. You love that podcast. Oh I love that well. I liked the podcast and then it got a little Wackadoo like it got. It didn't get very interesting and everyone they talked to had just the same commentary which is like Oh yeah. We haven't done anything to prepare but like what can we do. We just don't think about it by okay by the one of the ways I want to bring this back into who them dumb in the celebrity territories my favorite commentary about them reason earthquakes came from Mira Sorvino on twitter. WHO's very prolific on twitter are usually very well talks about like you know social justice a lot of like very important crucial social issues? She's not like typically fun and funny on twitter she serious. He's very serious. She's like a like a less irritating Alyssa Milano but she tweeted tweeted on July sixth. Is there any possible truth to this theory of a Russian seismic weapon being linked to earthquakes here in California tweets. Please fill in as much as possible and she'll she quote tweets. This random Guy Patrick field who's literally no one and he posted posted a link to a story from website before it's news dot com about Russia hinting earthquake weapon as active as seven point one tremblor strikes California so she's like is there are there literally is there a Russian conspiracy to make earthquakes in California is what Mira Sorvino earnestly asking asking and then the next tweet says by the way. I know it sounds ridiculous. I just found it somewhat intriguing and a few minutes later. I guess she realizes that like maybe it's not the best look so she tweets maybe it was all just Ramon from early Michelle so she turned into a joke a good one mira the other thing about garlic that I keep forgetting our lock garlic the other thing about garlic that I wanted to bring up. Is that when you Google it so many websites talk about like we'd never heard of this. No one knew what this was. Even people in California are like who is garlic. We didn't know her but she is like very active right now. Let me share something with you. There's a fault in Chile called the San Ramon fault and it's a thrust fault. That's the joke mira add to your thread. I'm just saying like that's the joke I mean. Do a little research. Just kidding I I basically went on wikipedia and searched faults okay. We need to move on. Hey Jim Bobby Watching Rhode Island U._S.. So excited who the hell's the host Ariel Vandenberg Birds Yeah it really needs to know I have no idea I'm dying right. Thanks yummy top SCAR JOE be angry. I do that how this headline. This headlong you put in is the funniest thing I've ever. I've seen spot the difference Loveland U._S._A.. Host Aerial Vandenberg looks identical to Caroline flack and her love life is even more tragic so funny in so rude. Caroline flack is the host of Love Island U._K.. The Oji O._G.. Love Island <hes> that is currently on air every single night in the U._K.. And is a phenomenon as told by Lena Dunham to this podcast exclusively and then Love Island U._S.. Just launched and it's the same production the company because it's like pretty much identical and R._E._O.. Vanderberg is the is the equivalent to carry on and Caroline flack as like a semi personality. We talked about her. She likes she's got some good videos areas of her yeah. There are some edge but aerial Vanderberg is funny because she's like the Americanized version which means she was a vine star and then she like then like a like a personality but like not actually like a comedian and she also dated will. They're saying her love. Life was more tragic she literally dated Will Arnett which is hilarious because we were just like wow tragic tragic and she did Arnett and then she did the lead singer of the Arctic monkeys which actually isn't tragic cool. That's very cool Alex Turner the and now was really then she dated Adam Levine for a month tragic after dating Christopher masterson trijets dark and now it's funny. She's dating her fellow L. O. Vine Star this guy named Matt Kushal who like they like did vines together like everybody are they. Dating are the dating or are they eating and they were like no and now they're dating so it's kind of romantic it's kind of romantic but the thing about the host of the love island is they never. Are there like they're never there. That's the whole thing yeah so I was GonNa ask you. She's you had said like the host doesn't matter because before we were prepping sought hadn't seen love island yet and you're like well. She's not really in it and then I watched the episode of Lyle and and she's featured heavily but then but that's just because it's the introduction suction because the second episode she barely in it basically because the way that they communicate with the love islanders ease through text messages so they really don't need a host a show up and be like okay time for like three coupling or whatever and they also have this like narration. This voice over that's like makes jokes so they don't really need her to do that so they have these like other tools that make the host very rarely show up like they'll do total recoupling which I'll explain in a second without anyone there just text messages from God texted him being like do this now do this now do this. What did you think of American laviolette because I've watched both episodes? I thought it was perfect. It's the same first of all I was very reluctant to watch it because I'm very busy watching Love Island U._k.. And like how am I going to watch judge them. Both which the answer is like I'm just going to I guess but I also was worried that it wouldn't be. I didn't know it would be the same production company. I didn't know the whole situation with it and like it's incredible. It's the same exact look. It's the same exact field savings like music. I love it. They play they play literally seven seconds of one thousand Song Yeah Oh yeah it'll be like yeah foam Jews Wayne and wine juice and that's it and everyone so the part where they dance they have a slow dance party. They show them as I mentioned having fun that happens undyed leaning on you constantly where they're like doing like when they whip so kind of name and they run in slow motion and they make a joke about that. That's like a love island classic when they run into the worm right not the caterpillar the worm when they play the Games where they have to kiss each other. That is the most that's the classic Love Island Trap. Does it get nastier because I kind of like that. They're all they're all nice right now which is really funny because like everyone's being nice each other and you get the sense that it's just going to expel no because when the girl was like I believe in Girl Code that becomes Kevin Love Island's number one issue where the girls go. If you WANNA go for like the Guy I'm dating. You should like come talk to me. I and it's like why like I'm Never GonNa see you again and we're like almost island. You like do a thing. I just want you to tell me what you WANNA. Make friendships like I'm really into these friends that is like the number one problem on love. Island is women wanting to talk to each other. I so like it happens in the first episode or the Second Episode of Love Alan U._S. but in Love Island U._k.. There is huge drama because the girls were mad that one of the girls wasn't hanging out with them like why won't you hang out with us because she's like to focus on her boyfriend. It's like literally that's what she's here to do like that is that is the point of the show and they were mad at her for it and then it all flicked blew up in her face. I forgot to vote yesterday. I didn't vote eat are with soap is who who on the U._S.. Love Island. Are you like into Oh well I'm really into. I have an answer for this. I'm my favorite is Western country Western. You love yeah country west of West and there really honestly is. He's not cute but he's I like his vibe and they like him too. I mean honestly there's like second place so far from Western but I will say I like cash. I would like to see Weston in casuals burqa the two guys this is so love Allen the two guys that no one step forward for so in the beginning they bring out the women and then each time each they bring on each man wanted a time and the women have to step forward if they're into the man and the man clinches when no one liked Wesson and no one like casual so it's like the due to. The people are like not immediately horny for are the ones that end up being really cool because they have like good personalities which is always what happens on love island like it is the signature of this show so like they're also like they are really corny. But did you notice a part. Where Yaman is there like making fun of? Someone and they're they're talking about. Someone in Yemen keeps repeating the same joke when it's like Oh. She's got the T.. She's got the T. and he starts going. That's the sound of the tea boiling and then like he just finds repeating it like no one and heard it. He's like he just keeps making this persistent tea boiling and I was like Yemen everyone gets this is really good. <hes> who's really good the grocery store guy who's dumb as hell when they got to represents my scissors and my mom and then she goes that's cool. He got well she goes. What's your Tattoo? He goes well I I I got it because I thought it would look good three lines. I thought on somebody's arm and I got it and then I guess it could also represent my three sisters and she's she's like a woman there they when they're like sitting him in that girl the girl that he chose also boring as hell are sitting talking. Their conversation is wild. It's like I love being parks. I also love theme parks. I love the rides I also love the rides the twenty three just like it's perfect and they're like we're really connecting. I love when care no not care when Kierra got back from the date with casual and they were like how was it age. It was like it was amazing. It was like wait I just watched the date and it was boring as hell is so good because they're so like it's so boring but it's also exciting because of how they manipulate them like so we I mentioned the game so the the Games they all are just like these funny games are like as the game every episode so you get to know you game but but what makes it extra devious so these people have just met each other and they're all trying to like get on each other essentially to like make their mark so that when there's a recoupling which is essentially like the the men or the women they switch off get to choose who they want to be coupled with and the people who aren't chosen are going to get kicked off the island so you really want to letting us such a scientific. You want everybody to want you okay. Essentially it is a scientific. It's like hunger games yeah anyways what's great about these. These games as part of the game is a kiss the boy who you think X._Y._Z. so you could either play the game who cares about winning the game or you could just kiss whoever you want to like one hissed by you so they horny. It'd be like oh I like. Are you horny for me. We just kissed so then you have just like constant just like kissing so two girls who are fighting over the same day. Just keep kissing him. It's a really good show I the barrier to entry for Love Island U._K.. is its highs this high. It's high. It's high and I don't really have the patients but it was just straight up on C._B._S.. Last night so I plopped on the couch and I watched the whole goddamn thing and I well I caught up and they also C._B._S.'s also smart. This sounds like an ad but the you know a lot of like I use the direct T._v.. Now thing like I'm watching watching the Tuesday night episode. The first episode was incredibly easy and the moment of show like this especially a show like this gets hard to watch gets hard to catch up through your dire done not Chernobyl Chernobyl. You're not like I gotta tune in net. You're like me if I don't watch one episode of Love Island. I'm done forever like I could easily forget these people. Although I gotta say Samantha Morton its own scars guard on on Celebrity Love Island. I'm in I'm in who you're GONNA kiss Stellan. Where did that come from your brain because you mentioned Chernobyl? Oh you know I don't even know references own cool Stellan stars put him on so love island. You Imagine Agean Love Island U._S. but with amazing accents so that's like why the U._K.'s a little bit heightened versus the U._S. but I will say they didn't incredible job. It's a it's a perfect match they did not they didn't spare any expenses like I respect them for that because why I changed something that's so clearly works somewhere. We'll America though become as obsessed with the U._k.. I don't know I really don't know I don't know if we have it in us. The ratings are low and I'm seeing a lot of headlines like Oh C._B._S.. Like Love Island U._S.. Ratings things disappoint but it's like this is going to be on every day for the next month. I feel like there's a chance for this to grow. It's every day but it's short amount of time. So what's Nice is like it's over in a month. Even though it's like the belong in the last episode is August seven seven right which is nice 'cause like you want that Quick Summer T._v.. Like you're done fit it in like holy moly get it all in there like squeeze it into summer. You were hitting me exactly when I have nothing to watch. I'm only watching love islands. Like what else is there one thing I we did find an incredibly charmed by was how often I would just because I was fully alone like I was just like on the couch alone in the dark watching and like fully sober and the the number of times. I'd just like laughed out loud at just like the absurdity thirty of somebody I just kept laughing and I was really really that sold the deal for me the number of times I just laughed at some inanity you guys are into Love Island. We should do like a love alive. Love Island Watch like it'd be fun. That would be really full. If you're like the finale August seventh just like any episode who needs game of thrones. There's love island who needs it. Who fucking needs it bobby? You're going away soon right into Montana. Have you packed your DOPP op. Cake yet not yet because it's it's a long time away having good thinking about what you're gonNA put your DOPP Kit. You know to put all kinds of things that most importantly to put in my cool whip tooth. 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Thurman and I was like she sounds bounds. This is so wild and then I looked her up and I saw was my Hawk and I was like Oh. She fucking sounds just like Uma Thurman because she's with thermo daughter. She looks like she has Ethan's mannerisms. It's so I mean it's uncanny. You know that thing online. Were you like mix your photos and it like the computer gives me like a fucked up baby. That looks like you if they did that with their faces. You would get a hawk like them or hot. Not Michelle very high parents are so I have not watched stranger things but months ago I told you about my hawk. I was like she's GonNa be a thing because I saw her in the masterpiece theater versus like like masterpiece theatre special of little women in which she played Joe which she was very good in alongside the girl who's now the star in the society. WHO's like a huge incomer? What's her face? Oh we talked about Newton yeah. She's women adaptation so is murder she wrote. What's her face Angelo antifreeze in it? Oh that's fun and I think Florence pee no. She's in the new one choosing the little woman the next little bit anyway. She's in <hes> she's in the Greta Gerwig joint. This was a very lake faithful adaptation of little women and it was fantastic really well done really nice and they're and my hawk is fantastic in like really good at it so but she's good in stranger things. She has a really big role. She's a new character but she has a really significant role. She's like the <hes> remember Steve Force Cudi Steve. She's like they work in the same ice cream place and so so they play off of each other. There's tension Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah then. There's like a fun little reveal at the end <hes>. She's really really good and I I. There's not much to say about her career because she doesn't have much one but I <hes> this. This thing you put in from Ethan Hawke is it's such a peak dad but it's it's the Hollywood version of something a typical parent would put online. She happens to be good but like this is so nepotism me it hurts hurts like obviously like if she wasn't a model. She's like the fact that she can talk means. She can be an actress but if she couldn't she'd be a model. Do you know what I mean. 'cause it's so nepotism e. Here's what Ethan Hawke wrote on Instagram. Some of you may have missed her last years B._B._C. production of little women some of you may have missed Mr worker juilliard also. How are you just going to? She was only there for one year. I know many missed out on numerous high school productions heck. I even missed. You and I'm her father. Some of you may know her music. Some may not but ladies and Gentlemen Get to Know Maya Hawk. She's the real thing it's sweet. It's sweet and the other part of this that I thought was funny was having to do with stranger things. I should have said this a little bit earlier but it says they're talking about her hair. Cut A lot in for some reason in press like that. It's good. I don't know it's like short just mentioning. I kept bringing up all Josh Nar watching. Why her haircut she looks? It's really cool. It's just a incredibly contemporary. She's a character that looks like they drop out of twenty nine this. She doesn't show that shows nineties and she writes so the show is so all about nostalgia and here's my Hawk and it looks like they just dropped her in between nineteen in which I don't know Robbins Haircut isn't pivotal to the plot but it does offer some insight into the character hair department head Sara Hens goal who's worked on stranger things in his first season tells refinery twenty nine that when she initially designed Robbins look the main goal was clear to make her look as different different from Nancy Wheeler as possible so like it just funny to me that they like brought on a new girl and they were like how do we distinguish it from the other girl but we cannot have these two girls meanwhile there are forty thousand young boys on stranger things that I could not tell apart for the life of me Oh yeah the girl comes on there like we gotta make sure she has a different haircut or as people are GonNa think that she's Nancy Nancy's the what's her name <hes> now the Talia dire haircut. Let's hear it but that's like not what the show was so eighty. S in that haircut doesn't feel eighty. S Kaci looks just like her and she sounds just like her. It's fucking I mean it's jarring so the only thing and this is. I don't want to be like Oh my hawk. The only thing is who she's dating. There really isn't much about her online. That's like she's anything like she's fradulent on. She's the daughter famous people so she's like very much like private or turn earn. There's not a lot about her online or whatever <hes> but the one thing that I did find that caused me to literally Yelp help out loud when I found it at like three in the morning last night and like one in the morning was that she's dating Gus Wegner. Do you guys know who the winners are you do if you work if not you probably just wonder he owns rolling Stone Gus Winter. Honor is the son the twenty something son. How old is he now? He's probably a bit older than twenty he he got when he was twenty while ago. How old is Jan went? Are Is the guy who ran rolling stone through. It's like you know peak. <hes> he got old he gave Rolling Stone essentially to his sons his and mostly his son Gus who was the only one interested in twenty eight. He's twenty eight or twenty nine because he was twenty six in two thousand sixteen when he got rolling stone that's insane because when he got rolling stone of course everybody was obsessed with it because it was just like this is so nepotism it hurts another nepotism person. Why is he running rolling stone ruins on media is not doing well anyways? Don't give rolling stone to this like you know teenager teenager essentially this this child and gus sold US weekly <hes> 'cause they were owned by winter to American media so I'm not thrilled with him because he basically we sold away US weekly to repay his debts and had a lot of debts when the his father accumulated debts and let's be on us. This relationship is not GonNa last. There's no way in held us. Relationship is going to last but it's wild at its existing at all when gusts went are got rolling stone they wrote about <hes> Ham and one of the things the details was and then there his there and then there's his old country band gus and Scout Guess who scout is bobby who scout Willis Scout Willis the other half of the duo all being Scout Willis the daughter of Demi and Bruce so he literally had this like band to it just such a funny small world of like famous people in their children just continuing continuing continuing high weekly medium pile long time. I need you guys to break down the Almighty on little phys April Jones Saga <hes> apparently able Jones who has two children bio. My aunt is now dating Orioles beat U._K.. Band member little bit and they are about to have a child together so yeah. Let's say there's a lot of camera <hes> Info Jones posting an idealized story a couple days ago where she was talking about all the celebrities who excited her D._M.. And like more her and she was talking about <hes> Shaquille O'Neal Kevin Durant Ace at rocky all these and people apparently they all want it and I didn't even know what's going on between them around Lafayette's houses happening what's happening. This is kind of crazy. <hes> all right. Thank you <hes> <hes> I'm so lucky that'd be keeping me and my shadows. Oh I e this is funny. I'm so glad you called about this. So let's start with the WHO's our Omar in little to members of famous for the song but also many other on the city boy band B tecate any other heads and they're doing the doing the big boy band thing now which is like their reunion tour and broke out his own solo thing he had a recent hit will recent. I mean like the most recent hit was posted. Remember that Song is pre catching. Chris Brown was on its. We don't support it but if you don't don't remember only to me so Omari on an April Jones were together. They have two kids together. I don't know how long they were together and I do not know if they were married. Their oldest kid is nine so they were together a while ago. No Mari on an April Jones were on the first few seasons of love and hip hop Hollywood right yes and now that and then they were not on it. Just I guess what guess WHO's coming back to love and save that let's build up to that so April Jones and Omari in our together they have two kids they break up Omar little bizarre in a band together called touquet a right they break up Bobo but then they get back together like because there are the reunion season essentially for people who are over the age of thirty time to reunite or whatever and we'll fizz is with this woman named <hes> mony slaughter what's her name Monet's Mooney slaughter <hes> Mooney slaughter. They're they're broken up now for quite a few years to my question for you is when did April break up. I don't really know in July of two thousand sixteen so not too long ago. No okay interesting okay. That's what I was so then April April Jones. This is the best part of April Jones goes on instagram live and seems Kinda drunk and a lot of the headlines reporting this call her drunk so maybe there was contact. Maybe there was a larger thing where it actually shows sir drinking but she comes across as like very chatty and like Berry low inhibition sort of thing and she goes on this really hilarious rant about these rumors and they're like people are saying that like I'm pregnant with little fizzes baby just because like he comments on my mother's Thursday posts he comments on my instagram and she says that like commenting on into instagram posts is just showing respect. That's the way of showing on the best like show honor like commenting on someone's instagram post is showing honor is okay. It's okay hey guys so cave for people to rejoin just honors someone it doesn't mean you're fucking them. It just means they're honoring you but I do like there's something true about what she's saying which is like so many tabloids and like gossip gossip blogs. Their currency is tracking the the comments celebs right like we look for the ulterior motives of these comments and really they could mean nothing ranking mean nothing and that's what she's saying and so but she doesn't stop they're able just doesn't stop Jerry. Jones keep school. The point is like she's like you WanNa hear about people in my d._M.'s in my messages showing me on our wanting to fuck me. She's like the Game Ace at Brockie every basketball player in a way she almost shades little phys by saying people even more famous than he slammed into by all the time and WanNa like fuck this pussy right. This is my quoting phases me quoting her. This is me quoting her. Let me to say I'm a celebrity because Mario Fuck this. Let me just say you only celebrity. I'm here. I don't have to say you don't have to say this pussy and I have played by him and now little little fist wants to fuck this policy. She never says that she's pregnant with little lobby. I don't WanNa take us because he doesn't actually have to say is like GonNa fuck this Posey. That's it. I'm a celebrity because of Maya buckets put the in two kids by him and now little phys wants to fuck this pussy and because I'm a celebrity and because they gain wants to buck this pussy and because as unstuck this pussy and because all these guys love this that that's it but it's really funny that all the rumors that are like she might even be pregnant. It's like nowhere in this ranters pregnant also she's wasted apparently like she's not fragment but then it didn't stop so then mony slaughter comments on all of this as well and she says congratulations are in order for April Jones and Teeny fizzle pop announcement of their relationship slash ship congrats on moving relationship slash fuck shifts congrats on moving into the new house together congrats potentially getting married and having kids and I could not wish for a better stepmother for my son thought just be a little more respect mind your fucking business and we can be the biggest best blended family ever okay so that is where the rumors of pregnancy come from is that comment which is hilarious and very back handed but she says potentially getting married and having having kids but it's such a clear like reference to the future of a relationship not the current part of their congratulations on your relationship and fuck ship is or fuck ship relationship slash slash. She's ineffectual. She's in a friendship with teeny pedalpub. We congratulations on your home. Your ex little phys teeny fizzle. Pop is the rudest thing I've ever seen congratulations congratulations on your fuck shit okay but before we end the the real guard away that this ends is because guess what per meters a month love and hip hop Bollywood Zack in the cast. April ammo niece and little phys. They're all back on the show starting this next season so literally worse. This is Promo for the show. This is brought over the show and guess what it's working because when you're saying stuff like relationships slash and Teeny pedalpub Bob and the game wants to fuck this pussy I'm listening like could some of this be true sure but when their show is literally just around the corner and you're like amping up the Promo and hanging out and doing all this stuff often like photos of you in bed together and like you know they just announced today that B. Two K. is is in Oviedo fast with Drake and people were commenting will however little physical Mario. I'm GonNa like performing together and it's like because this is like a fucking this is I'm GONNA hands. It's a show man. This is their job. It's all synergy people. It's all synergy. Josh down was deported from Iran questioned explain because I just I just had to put Iran <hes> before this woman cannot deal so is funny member. How johstone is trying to sing a song every country on the planet? She didn't really put a lot of thought into it. Because a lot of countries make it hard for for you to do such things <hes> it is wrong for women to perform in public in Iran and I don't know of Jocelyn just didn't do the research or if she just thought because of her immense fame that just she get away with it. We'll see claimed that they thought she was performing in public but she was never gonNA perform in public like she wasn't going to come break their laws but they detained her because they thought she had showed up to perform in public. You know she's a big star Johstone <hes> anyway she's fine. She formed in Iran. She's fine. She leaves a very such which is now typical fashion for Johstone during this crusade of hers to perform in every country on the planet for for the sake of what I don't know like what is she doing this for awareness but is the awareness just for Johstone. I don't know for awareness of myself. Are we gonNA play the mark the Mike posner thing or we should we just stop it into this speaking of like stars that like who are they like going around the world like doing stuff for no reason Mike posters walking across the United States like he's bugging forrest Gump. Although bobby made the point that forrest gump at least ran forrest gump rant and people okay. Let's play the Michael Mike closer call just to get it out of the way but I really quickly johstone. No no one they were so kind of at one point I started to question the question world around in my head where they just lowering us into a false sense of security so we could walk around our jail sales quietly without a drama drama. No these people were genuinely nice kind people that felt bad. They couldn't grind over the system. They didn't speak English so well. So the translator Muhammad who clearly had a lovely soul conveyed the message that they hoped we would go to the embassy and started out after Mo- left. She immediately calls him after I left. The officers kept telling US sorry. I don't know this is very there's something very piper care about this entire thing which I still be locked up. Yes locked up abroad starring johstone around the corner her but the only job he didn't realize she was smuggling drugs. In <hes> broke down palace. It just happens. I'm sorry you can't compare this to locked up abroad or Claire. Danes broke down pals. Johstone is walking into the prison cells and she's like what Jones in Bridget Jones diary to act like I've seen I've only seen the first one you know she's in jail for the second. One like Thai actually actually did not know that I don't like knowing that but just like josten would definitely do a locked up abroad rasheed like willingly gets herself locked up abroad yeah just just reporting into jails being like please take me. I love this experience. A white famous American woman just like understanding outstanding what it's like to not be privileged. Privileged thumb can't with Johstone what Oh my God just really quickly just so please just on up. You're listening. This johnstone really quickly. We'll produce it her. Oh Hi who weekly this is a first time medium time caller <hes> just really need you guys to discuss everyone's favorite two thousand nine. Maybe who <hes> Mike Posner recently realized that he has a grown out of beer yeah only place folk music now which we all know from <hes> I took a pill and a visa which is remixed on the radio but as originally very sad <hes> <hes> looked at his twitter. He is walking across America in for some reason. He's in Illinois right now. I think please discuss thank you <hes> me in Greece. Mike Holzner of I took a pill and abuse of fame. We talked about him when that song was like very which is crazy every imagine when that song was big like I can't even remember two thousand sixteen. Maybe so Mike posner wrote this folk song became it got remixed. It got really popular and now let's cut to two thousand nineteen in which we are getting calls that Mike Posner is forrest gump ing his way across the United States for what reason is unclear. I we were like is it charity. No is it like some personal personal thing that you know trying to save whales know me is just to raise the money is to raise the money to finish the national monument of Scotland so they can have a full parthenon so nice of him no. He's not even doing this to buy more pills that he could take an visa. No maybe maybe the pills or supplements. We're not even talking about hard drugs like maybe literally I take. I take my tumor every day. I took a pill Capelle in bed stuy. Maybe it's prep maybe it's some pre incredible point is we don't know why he's doing other than self promotion. which is the same thing the johstone doing but he recreated this very elaborate website where you can track his progress and he has been arrested balls his mission? <hes> the mission is unclear because this is my mission my mission this is a list of cities are walk through many other towns and cities between these checkpoints route subject to change project dates is impossible due to weather and the condition my body also I feel if I change my mind. I will all that being said. This is our route. There's no mission there. What is the mission? There's no mission my goals and his self awareness and self discovery and being calm and singing for people which again is what Joss stone is doing so literally. These two are on the same journey except Jocelyn is going into jail and at least my and my feet might hurt after he's GonNa get bubbled up meet. Oh his posers realized he can't walk around the world. He's just the best his what he tweeted. I'm not walking through Oklahoma guys. Sorry I'm walking New Jersey Pennsylvania Slovenia West Virginia Ohio Indiana Illinois Missouri Kansas Colorado New Mexico Arizona Nevada California yeah. He's ready to send us as a recording <hes> his website hasn't been updated since the ninth of July and he was in Missouri. Okay unease walked twelve twelve hundred miles as of the ninth of July he stops and all these places he takes photos and there really is he's listening to so he has he has a reading list and they all linked to Amazon so he's getting lengthy affiliate link bonus for people who wanna read the stranger and the alchemist because of Mike does recommendations but then at the bottom and he he only has three audiobook recommendations. It's like Mike Posner. You should only be listening to audio books. If you're walking across America. I think that's right. I mean just imagine the podcast you consume. If have you listened to every episode of WHO weekly there's over three hundred and each one is let's say like thirty minutes to an hour. That's at least like one st if not more right you get through two states with that. It's got to be close. I don't know if all of you have podcasts like mainland's making videos to share online as a really complicated thing isn't it yes that's why we're really excited about our new sponsor looming five which makes making videos for social media incredibly easy. We just did one for the prompt to promote this specific episode episode about that you can make video an under five minutes using looming fives A._i.. and machine learning because they make it easy you can transform an article blog post or text message into video you just enter the texts and looming five A._I.. 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I think it's like Olympic kick them style like like she will be them Olympic high. I mean she though is way more I think impactful than like an atom ripon or like a or like <hes> like I'm thinking of other like Orion lock deal coddling mugging disappear Ryan while she's a she's a very magnetic personality Meghan Rap Manila. He's no is the is easy one of the captains on the <hes> world. World Cup winning U._S. Women's soccer team <hes> that just one like a few days ago the the big the Big Cup the cup. They just had a ticker tape parade for the rest of the team is a big deal she just <hes> she's on on the body. It's the cover of the body issue. E._S._P._N.'s body issue which is always a big deal with her girlfriend who is a basketball player which is cute and you know people just really inspired by the team as they are every time this comes around. I mean I was caught up. Don't even likes six. She's fighting for equal pay because of the soccer team get paid like one eighth of what the men on the soccer team get paid which is more money now. They make they make more money. The women's soccer team makes more money than the men's soccer or you're saying. They make more money do now. It's a more profitable thing oh yeah well. It's I mean they would argue. I think if you were to say why don't they make enough money as the men it's like well. The men make more appetizing but that's actually not true especially stronger like I saw her. No absolutely not no Adam Scott right the longer one two three them. I guess he yeah he above the like older actor thing hasn't yeah he is. He's a guy he's like. I mean he's not Paul Rut level but it's like people. Don't confuse them anymore. Member you'll be like not you know it's not Paul Rudd. WHO's the new guy so right? They don't do that anymore. Yeah no we know Adam Scott now. An Automobile and Adam Scott has sort of transitioned into more serious roles anyway. I mean on big allies. He is such fucking snivelling little bitch but that's I'm starting big little lies. I'm starting to <hes> am I up in my arena in my <hes> mary-louise Madel it's like I think I'm the ex husband. I think I'm Zoe Kravitz husband. I'm like a mix of the two dudes I was like. I don't think I'm actually cool enough to be one of the women I think I'm a mix of Adam Scott and the ex husband. I don't think this is a good show to say I am. It's not like I'm a carrie like this is not a show in which you want identifiers well. They're all terrible but don't you find yourself with every show. You're like which one which one which one I'm not with this show because oh I do I do. I did a deter noble noble. You're a sick person. That's what we're proving being here like. Which one am I am? Well please you you don't watch doesn't say like which one am I not not big little lies with everything. Just I'm the bridge. I'm just the bridge Golden Girls Yeah. I'm the yeah like I'm one of the children who's like what <hes> years icky Yicky Lindsey Suzuki. I'm the two dudes combined. I'm the twin that's not abusive. They're both the twins they're starting fights left and right okay Holly Madison who or them to three who textbook who textbook who like literally start in reality show dated Hugh Hefner dated Criss Angel member that <hes> no how comfortable being who loves being a WHO that is where she is that day Madison who weekly was Deaf Blind Item Sarah Jessica Parker Eighteen obvious obviously than fun but he's into a heated discussion we were having in from the weekend is Chris Noth- who whereas Sam A._T._S. tougher to three who think who he is always wine iconic role. That's who that's who he will always be associated with big. He's big. I he's Chris Not Second. That's it I mean I guess there's the law and order argument to be made but I don't think anything will ever be as thickest big. <hes> Lonner has too many people too many parts seasons too many people too many law and orders. I don't even know what you were legs on is Christoph- Pele on lauder. I'd be like Oh but cousy play on lawyer. I would say like he plays Chris not big doc sorry he's John on laundry. Mr Vega honors funny no but then he would full on just like scandalous donald trump character because trump and but like a fun version of like a sexy Donald trump a big donald trump when we thought what we thought about him ninety nine like yeah like big is like big is not Donald Trump. Now big is like what Donald Trump represented to people in the house. I don't like hey early. I'm on my name's bridget. I love you guys. I WANNA know Libya fucking Dukakis them them of my heart. Thank you so much one two three them now. She's a Oh no now. She's at that that name name everyone steel magnolias name something else she was in tales of the city nays something else moonstruck truck. She's who to me <hes> she says <hes>. You are versed in old women so I don't think you can I just named you were like naming up and I kept naming things who was more famous Tyne Daly or Olympia Dukakis Olympia Dukakis is she related to the Dukakis a politician yes. She's the first cousin of Michael Dukakis. That's what I thought well not. I didn't know that that's what I that's what I that's what I thought we move on. Have I told my Olympia Dukakis story on the air. When else would you told it I I never told me a little bit of Congress correct God? Here's a here's my Olympia Dukakis store. Hey I was at the bar blue and gold member blue and gold of course. How can I forget divy bar near N._Y._U.? I didn't go to N._Y._U.. But I was like I did someone called incident. You Talk About Your College. A lot and I never talk about my college. I went down Y. You talk about your call it all the time. I don't but someone like Lindsay. Where do you WanNa Call Bobby always about his college? I what if I didn't go to college. Would you judge me but I did go to wait you so call. It doesn't matter call doesn't matter but I was at N._Y._U.. N._Y. Bar blue and gold because as the caller is right. That's why it's called that blue and gold no they are not it's purple what's blue and gold not the N._Y._U.. Colors right purple okay so Gopher Birthday Party and it's like a Friday night and it's like pretty poppin but not like super crowded and there's a pool table on the back and it's like an old dump like this bars I'd dump and it has this old pool table and above the pool table there are all these photos on the wall old photos in old frames of all people at either blue and gold or like mcsorley other old bars just like old people and I'm sitting there and I noticed a liberty caucus walk into blue and bolt on like a Friday night where everyone there is twenty four years old myself included and Olympia Megan Twenty five point as Olivia is with this younger guy but not by much so I was assuming that it was his it was her son although who knows they looked looked kind of the same and they were talking to each other and a very familiar way and they be lined to the back near that pool table no one is playing and no one's looking at those photos and she starts pointing at the photos and talking to the younger man and I was like Oh my God like Olympia is either in these voters or like no some of these photos that says while I was like I got us and I was like talking to my friends. I was like am I crazy or is that Olympia Dukakis and they're like yes and yes and so I walked over to her and I'm like a little drunk and I was just like excuse me no and I was like no Mr Caucus. No I just have to say I'm a huge fan and I just think it's like wild to see you in here but I hello and she looks at me and she's like an I hold up my hand to shake her hand and she shakes it. Very loosely is not into this handshake at all kind of gives me like a worried look like why is this like Weirdo like homo saying hi to me and blue gold and then she immediately left they just walked out and I was like Oh damn like I feel like a million was like well. I did not get recognized that blue and gold old anyway then she walked out of the Var goes to like the divy as straight as far in town and Bobby's like Hello Miss Dukakis. Hey It's me that you thought you'd be the last Amita edge I'm here Aena Olympia like skips over snap snap snap we. I don't avoid sweetie. You saw livy Vietnam Olympia Dukakis Olympia. I'm telling you she's she's okay with that. We are done <hes> as always call six nine who them to leave questions comments concerns and who were them people. Thank you to calling hauling for those of you who did sorry we didn't get to play the call we get so fuck and many in it's just increasing by the day which complaining about Oh we couldn't play. We loved what you know who you are who called with some gas. We Love You WanNa you one you called in with in credible as dos and that's all I'm saying that's all I'm saying don't knows what it is and I want the caller to know how much joy I got from that 'cause I was there. He got a lot of joy follow instagram twitter and facebook sports on poetry dot com slash who weekly and we will see you on Tuesday have a great weekend. Thanks for listening to love you all by bobby first time caller okay so I just had a super jarring experience and I really need your pets so I just a grinder hookups house and when I got there he asked me if I wanted any water to which are price. Yes and I kid you not when he wants back he gave me take great flavored propel so at this point my mind was blown.

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July 14 - Sen. Bernie Sanders, Sen. Ron Johnson, Megan Rapinoe

NBC Meet the Press

48:03 min | 1 year ago

July 14 - Sen. Bernie Sanders, Sen. Ron Johnson, Megan Rapinoe

"This Sunday the Democratic presidential race that the American we believe we have a chance to this and I gotTA plans are brand new N._B._C.. News Wall Street Journal poll. WHO's aw WHO's down? I look at the candidates fair against President trump. We have a president who is undermining democracy Li- guess this morning Senator Bernie Sanders Vermont plus those immigration rates start art today we take those people out and we'd take them out very legally as Democrats and Republicans argue over how to handle the border crisis. What will we say to this generation of children in parents? We imprisoned for seeking safety. We should it'd be the ones begging for forgiveness. We do not get anywhere by blaming the with doing their best to help these people. I'll talk to Republican Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and America's newest hero better them more less. We gotta listen more in Talk. Less Megan re Pino joins me to talk about the U._S.. Women's World Cup win her fight for equal pay and why she won't go to the White House to celebrate joining me for are insight and analysis on N._B._C. News chief White House correspondent Halley Jackson former Republican Congressman Carlos Carello of Florida former Democratic Senator Claire mccaskill of Missouri and Tim Alberta chief political correspondent for politico. Oh magazine welcome to Sunday. It's meet the press N._B._C.. News longest running show and television history. This is a special edition of meet the Press Chuck Top <hes> good Sunday morning. We're getting our first clear. Look at where the race for the Democratic presidential nomination actually stands and where the candidates stand against president trump here are are. I had to head matchups of the twenty twenty race in our new N._B._C.. News Wall Street Journal registered voters. We have Joe Biden leading president trump fifty one forty two. It's a healthy nine point edge outside the margin Bernie Sanders also with a healthy lead sitting at fifty percent to president trump's forty-three then going on down the Line Elizabeth Warren up five but under fifty forty eight forty three Nkala Harrison essentially tied with Mr Trump holding one point edge forty five to forty four and as you can see there while the democratic numbers do change depending on the cannon president trump's numbers essentially match his job approval rating which in this poll is right in line with where he's been at forty five percent in the democratic grace for the nomination. Joe Biden is still on top despite a shaky debate performance followed by a surging Elizabeth Warren Kamala Harris Bernie Sanders and peop- Buddha Jude's round out the top tier and yes ladies and gentlemen that is your top tier sorry to everybody else these days looking at the rest of the field look at this injury Yang Beto <unk> even reached two percent and there's a real prospect that the remaining one percenters and lower than that seventeen of them won't even qualify for the third debate in September and we'll be forced out of the race ultimately. The real story of our poll is at two separate and distinct races are emerging on the democratic side each defined by the magnitude of change voters are looking for there's the small change get things done restoration side represented by Joe Biden and and the big change take risks side that is favors Elizabeth Warren. We need big structural change in this country. I'M GONNA why we get rid of what in fact was working and move to something totally new. It's it's a tale of two primary electric's forty one percent of Democrats in that new N._B._C. News Wall Street Journal poll seeks smaller scale policies that cost less maybe easier to pass and bring less change thirty five percent of those voters pick Joe by who elite the field among them by double digits naive. It's not some old fashioned way of doing things that no longer exists is the only way our system is supposed to work the other fifty four percent of Democrats want larger scale policies and major major change. Those Voters Pick Elizabeth Warren again by double digits. You WanNa make change. We're nothing to do this like getting one statute over here a couple of regulations over there may be a better secretary over here. It's not going to work that way while Biden does best among Moderates and Conservatives Warren holds a substantial lead among liberals now facing rival Bernie Sanders who is competing for the same voters. He's not radical ideas but we need to rallied the American people by the millions. That's what I mean. Why a political revolution the fight between electability and progressive purity is playing out as Democrats debate how to take on Donald Trump? You've been awaking awakened by Donald Trump. Let's talk about that Jesus. I don't think you by cutting up every day and talking about Donald Trump. I know this is our chance to talk about our vision for America and argue over issues like health care Medicare for all single path system. I think that we should not be scrapping obamacare. We should be building on a battle is also playing out in Congress where tensions between House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in four freshmen Democrats who've called themselves the squad boiled over after they voted against stay border aid bill they argue empowers president trump Pelosi told Maureen dowd all these people have their public whatever and their twitter world but they didn't have any following listen dismiss. It was a statement of fact they were four who argued against the bill and they were the only four who voted against the bill. I'll I said was nobody followed their lead Congressman Alexandria Cossio Cortez fired back criticizing Pelosi's singling out of newly elected women of color the given these divides can any one democrat build coalition bridging the distance between the parties to groups voters Comma Harris among others trying criticizing Biden and warn though not by name. I'm GonNa tell you that's why I'm not turning out plans like a factory because it is really important to me that any plan that I'm prepared to to implement is actually actually doable and join me now presidential candidate Bernie Sanders the independent senator from Vermont running as a Democrat for this campaign Senator Sanders Welcome back to meet the press sir good to be with you. You know it's fascinating at our poll I think about your candidacy from two thousand fifteen dean and you sort of your come from nowhere insurgent candidacy and here you have you have changed the Democratic Party more a majority of Democrats one big SUBSIDIV transformational change. How frustrating Beijing is it to you that right now among those voters they're picking Elizabeth Warren Right now and not you well? That's in your poll the poll to the came out and the last week or two which had us in a strong second-place and let me tell you chuck. Let me tell you why we are going to window Democratic nomination and we're going to beat Donald Trump and that is the working class of this country is sick and tired of working longer hours for low wages they sick and tired of three people in America owning more wealth than the bottom half of America Mirka sick and tired a fifty percent of American workers living paycheck to paycheck and being the only major country on earth not to guarantee healthcare to people that is why we're GonNa win this election well as I was saying. I feel like message wise. You're winning the argument voter wise. You still have a ways to go. You know why you and not Elizabeth Warren. What would you say to those Democrats at one of these transformational change because they look to of you and they say yes there is a few differences here there but they're both advocating that big transformational change Elizabeth is a good friend of mine? All I can say is the following what people understand is that for decades now out there have been great speeches great legislation great plans about how to move the working class of this country and yet in the last thirty years unbelievably the top one percent has seen a twenty one percent increase to twenty one trillion dollar increase in their wealth while the bottom half have fallen even further behind in other words what we need in this country is a mass movement of millions of people which I am prepared to lead as president to take on Wall Street to take on the drug companies or ripping us off every single day to take on the insurance companies to take on the fossil fuel industry which is literally destroying this planet. What we need is a political revolution and I think I am the only we'll be candidate who has been clear about that? Now has the capability of doing that in the feeding Donald Trump in the process. You're getting a lot of advice these days from a lot of friends the New York Times story earlier. This week was filled with a lot of it. I want to show you an excerpt a deeper challenge confronting his aides and supporters after nearly four decades of running and usually winning iconoclastic campaigns on his own terms he is deeply reluctant to change his approach and you've had a lot of friendly. These are people very much supportive of you who are saying it sounds like two thousand sixteen. You have to rejig things a little bit. Oh be more personable. What how are you accepting this advice? Well look to things people say Birdie. You know you're repetitious. Petitions you are talking about the rich getting Richard Forty million people living in poverty. You were talking about so many old people who cannot afford them medicine and so forth and so you know what chuck here's a promise I will make you when the poor we'll get richer and the rich Paul when all of people have healthcare is the right but we are leading the world in the fight against climate change in what I will change what I am saying so it's not me that's being repetitious. It is what is going going on in society continues to favor of the people who have the wealth and the power while all over this country people are working two or three jobs and I understand that I keep hammering away that issue because I believe that in the wealthiest country in the history of the world we don't need forty five million people struggling with student debt. Kids can't afford to go to college. Those are the issues I will continue to talk about and those of the issues will win on. I'm very curious if you have of what you make of what's happening in the House of Representatives on the Democratic side right because it does feel a bit like it's sort of insider outsider Alexandria Cossio Cortez who was a volunteer in your campaign. She was very upset with Nancy Pelosi and she said when these comments for started I kind of thought that she was keeping the progressive blanket more of an arm's distance in order to protect more moderate members which I understood but the persistent singling out it got to a point where it was just outright disrespectful the explicit singling out of newly elected women of color. Is this part of this bigger disruption that you helped lead for years ago where the party is just having growing pains or what do you make of this dispute chuck. This is what I think I think it goes without saying that the future of our country in the future of the Democratic Party rest with young people people and I'm very proud by the way in virtually every poll that I have seen we a winning people under forty five fifty years of age and young you do all of votes in our poll as well yeah okay and what Alexandria and and other young women and women of color saying we have got to reach out young people we've cut the he'll the pain of the working class of this country and that is causing some political disruption within the leadership of the Democratic while they let me give you. One example where I have very concerned I have helped lead the effort to expand community health centers in this country and right now there's legislation in the House the Democratic House to cut in real inflation accounting for dollars community health at this twenty percent unacceptable acceptable so it's I support you know Alexandria's and the other women's desire to bring more people especially young people working class people into the Democratic Party. That is the future of the Democratic Acre being tough on them. I think a little bit I think you got you cannot ignore the young people of this country who are passionate about economic and racial and social and environmental justice. You gotTA bring them in not alienate them. I'm curious. You're one of seven senators running. We've got this crisis at the border sustainable conditions at now. Even Republicans are saying that they think these conditions need to change. What could you guys do right now in the Senate? What do you think you could do? Oh now in the Senate I I know you have plans to do something if you're elected president but you guys what do you plan on doing in the Senate and the next couple of weeks well. The immediate crisis is that we cannot be separating children from their parents parents. You cannot be having unsanitary disgraceful conditions in which women and children and people are living. This is the wealthiest country on earth. We can make sure that if people travel a thousand miles with their children wildfire awaiting the asylum proceedings they are treated with respect and dignity and as human beings. Is there something more though that you could do band together almost as a presidential caucus and try to demand some of these changes so it seems as if there's a lot of rhetoric what could you guys bring on the campaign trail we could raise consciousness about this issue and understand that desperate people were fleeing violence in Honduras and other countries with their little children. These are not criminals. These are desperate. People who deserve to have an asylum process into the be if possible not detain that all go with their relatives and friends while awaiting the proceedings but at the end ended the day chuck we have got to do at the American people want and that is comprehensive immigration reform a path towards citizenship for eleven million undocumented. We need to provide immediate legal status for the one point eight million people in the DACA program and humane. What a policy that is really what we have to do nation senators senators? I'M GONNA leave it there for now. Thanks for coming out and sharing your views and stay safe on the trail. Okay thank you thank you now joining me from the other side of the aisle in the United States Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. He's chairman of the Homeland Security Committee Senator Johnson Welcome back to the show Sir Warning Chuck. Let me start with the vice president's visit with some Senate Republicans down to a couple of centers. They're one of them. The Pool reporter traveling with the vice president described horrendous render stench when they walked into the facility. The vice president himself said this was tough. We've heard a lot more Republicans acknowledged. The conditions here and these facilities are just unsustainable okay. Where do we go from here? Are you comfortable with this situation. Oh absolutely not which is why was supporting the emergency funding measure for months before Democrats finally decided to cooperate and granted the four point six billion dollars dollars or vote for the four point six billion dollars and funding so that's just a first step chuck. The problem is the uncontrolled the overwhelming flow of people coming in this country. Illegally in May alone is forty six hundred people per day came down a little bit in June into about thirty five hundred people today but on average spend over twenty eight hundred people per day for this fiscal year so again with the context since two thousand fourteen that was the humanitarian crisis year when that President Obama called humanitarian in crisis when one hundred twenty thousand people came this country illegally either unaccompanied child but primarily as part of a family since two thousand fourteen the last five years nine months one million eight hundred one million eighty six thousand people have come in as unaccompanied child or primarily as a family unit have been apprehended one million eight hundred one million eighty six thousand people about half of those who've come in in the last nine months alone so it's overwhelming our system and and the goal of our policy should be reduced that flow turn it into a legal process. There's a number of things we can do. One of the things we have dues. We have to raise that initial bar in terms of claiming asylum hopefully setup centers in Guatemala in Central America so people can claim refugee status but this is completely out of control well senator. There seems to be that enforcement. There's an argument now that the extra enforcement measures get tough measures. The president is tried is actually actually encouraging more migration. Let me read you a clip here from Ricardo Salinas. He writes this. The people of Central America are left with a stark choice endure growing instability poverty and intensifying violence as part of the failed drug war or flee now before the border is closed completely completely the rapidly rising numbers of families and unaccompanied minors who are willing to risk their lives to make the perilous journey north even knowing that detention and separation await speak of the increasing desperation. I mean this seems to be. We're talking about the border when the real core of the problem. We're doing nothing about if anything the president took money away from Central America first of all Chuck Yeah there is some short-term detention but we are in full catch and release. I mean people aren't being detained for much more than most probably a couple of weeks so we are in full catch-and-release. There's a survey done by the Association of Research and Social Studies in Guatemala said that he third of Guatemalans intended to migrate to the United States. That's almost six million people Gallup poll short one hundred fifty eight million people worldwide forty eighteen million people in central in Latin America want to migrate to the United States. We can't take all commerce. We have legal system primarily designed toward working with our economy to get people in here to work so we can continue to story Konami this completely out of control so again. The goal of our policy should be to reduce the flow people coming in this country illegally in turn that into legal flow. I understand that but you don't believe coming up with some sort of better. A Marshall Plan for Central Chill America might actually be the best way to decrease the flow well. That is a very long term solution. You have R._N._C.'s Manfred. Drugs is given rising drug cartels done great harm to the Public Institutions Essential Americans. There's no doubt about it. We bear responsibility disability. That's not GonNa fix this problem in the here now anytime soon. I certainly want see money flow to make sure that we can save your return people. I'm working with the Democrat colleagues on pilot program called operation safe return where we can rapidly and more accurately cooney determine those families that clearly don't have val silom claimed in the majority of them don't have val asylum claim and safely return them to Central America that will require some years funding as well. There are also humanitarian organizations are willing to facilitate that but we have to have that consequence when Michael Chertoff two thousand five faced his surge of Brazilians set a process of expedited removal reduce the flow by ninety percent in sixty days. That's has to be our first step is reduced the flow and then we're long-term with central the American to improve the conditions down. They'RE GONNA turn to a little bit of politics as a book out called American carnage by Tim Alberta and there's some interesting Paul Ryan Quotes Being Wisconsin Guy Paul Ryan Guy. I'm curious if your reaction here's the exit for a long long stretch. The Two Thousand Sixteen Campaign Paul Ryan refused to accept trump's takeover the G._O._P.. He traversed the stages of grief denial. No way trump can win anger. I called him a racist bargaining the powerpoint slides and depression this is fatal. He told Ryan spree this before finally coming terms with it. This resistance was grounded in basic belief that the Republican Party was still as party looking back. Ryan says he should have known better. You Know Wisconsin Ryan you know trump. What do you make of this dispute in this personal is this misread of where the party is? And where do you fit for. I consider Paul Ryan friend. I've got a good working relationship the President I've always abided by the Ronald Reagan commandment. I think we do need you realize Republicans Tokens Conservatives the president trump does socialism president also some Democratic Left. We need to hang together here so I think we've accomplished a lot of things the last two years we've stopped any in the regulatory burden who have more competitive tax system. That's Redo. That's produced more more than three percent growth much ten times higher business investment. That's GONNA grow our economy in the future so again from my standpoint. I'd like everybody to get along because we need to preserve this country that this marvel the American economy and model of freedom. Do you think President President Trump's criticism of Speaker Ryan and his speakership is warranted well again. I I would prefer that we all understand that the opponent in this political struggle are Democrats and they're growing socialism in what they would turn America into so we need to hang together I for nobody criticize each other on our side all right Senator Ron Johnson Republican from Wisconsin. I'M GONNA leave it there extra coming on sharing your views much appreciate it every day. When we come back those immigration rates starting today the debate over the crisis at the board of the panelists next and later the CO captain of the U._S. Women's National Soccer Team Meghan Regina Hi? It's Katy Tur- WanNa keep up with M._S._N._B._C. While you're on the go subscribe to the M._S._N._B._C. daily newsletter. You'll get the best of what you've missed. During this unprecedented era of news text M._S._N._B._C. to six six eight six six to subscribe welcome back panelists here former Republican Congressman Carlos Kabila a Florida former Democratic senator Claire mccaskill Missouri N._B._C. News chief White House correspondent Wally Jackson and Tim Alberta the cheap political correspondent Politico magazine on author of the book already referenced once American-carnage or buy it now ten welcome Com congratulations on the book. Let me start before we get to some of that in intramural politics and Republican Party and we'll start with the ice rates that are happening today Halley. Here's what a couple of mayors I have said. Even the president said mayors are welcoming this. Here's a couple the mayors who say not so much but this fear mongering and making immigrants scapegoats and really disrupting families who are just here trying to live their life. That's not who we are or should be as Americans. There's anxiety that's being created not just in our immigrant community but with anyone who has passion compassionate concern for human beings and of course the president is sort of bragging about these rates is what he said about it. The word gets OUTTA gets out it starts on Sunday and they're gonNA take people out and they're going to bring back to their countries or they're gonNA take criminals out. Put them in prison or put them in prison. In the country's came from we're focused Sousse on criminals as much as we can before we do anything. This is what if you cared about this. Why would you tell people because the president likes talking about this? He knows a place with his base and he's got twenty twenty on his mind. Listen Q. The president's tweets to and he starts going after democratic mayors for talking negatively about his ice rates but I can tell you there are people inside this administration who feel this has been grossly mismanaged that the president is way out over skis on this trying to rile up people who support him and that's not backed up by what these ice rates ultimately when they happen will turn out to be and it's a concern I think for people in the White House Tim Immigration in Your Book Chronic. Let me there it is probably the greatest sort of Fisher point inside the Republican Party and why trump is president. President and Helen talked about this before to use a basketball term. The president really sees immigration. Illegal immigration is a high percentage shot. It's a slam dunk for him with his base. The problem is that we know for in fact that there were a lot of suburban traditional upscale Republicans who voted for trump in two thousand sixteen who voted for a Democrat in two thousand eighteen and a lot of them did view immigration as that Fisher point that begins to sort of split the traditional Republican suburban upscale college-educated Republican from that more urban rural working class conservative Republican and the president is playing with fire here because well he may rile up his folks while he may mobilized that true believer base he runs a real risk of alienating that broader coalition and he's going to need to win reelection action Carlos you represented part of the county that is part of that broader coalition. The President Needs Cuban-americans Venezuelan Americans Colombian Americans in South Florida. At what point did they not like this raid business yeah there as a breaking point in south Florida's different a lot of the Hispanic vote there looks outside the United States to foreign policy and that kind of determines their votes however there is a sense of solidarity in the Hispanic community and if you pushed too far on some of these enforcement policies than you do start losing using some of those other Hispanics weren't directly impacted by them but who certainly feel bad for those families the individuals that are going to be hurt by this and the sad part is this is not the solution the solution to this is to reform our immigration lost to fix the entire system. This is a political stunt quite frankly because if you wanted to conduct effective raids. Why would you announce it? Everyone's hiding now. It's also had a character for this president who for every law enforcement action or at this taken loves to talk about the element of surprise right and loves to talk about how well I'm not gonNA preview what we're going to do because then you'll know what's happening in this instance. He did the opposite but Claire Look Immigration. Issue is probably one of the reasons you lost and Missouri because of how we spoke to Missouri but I want you to Wrexham here rob the Heritage Foundation Robinson Cox wrote the following so the open borders enthusiast Nita Rethink America's not a perfect nation but it is done pretty well by its immigrants over the past couple of one hundred years. Everyone is welcome provided you come here legally work hard and stick to the rules. It's not the pithiest yard sign. It is however still more sustainable ethos for a nation. How did Democrats walk that line? I think they've got to be respectful of the fact that most Americans maybe not a the far left segment of the Democratic Party but most Americans want there to be a process that's fair and legal and they do not like the idea that people can come because if you open the borders than anybody can come and I think that what's interesting about this raid is they are supposedly going after criminals in other words people who've committed felonies. There's plenty any of people who've come here illegally that have committed felonies that they could be busy with you never announced that ahead of time because if somebody's committed a felony they know how to hide so the notion that he's trying to throw out this idea they're going after criminals as Z.. Announces they're doing it just shows. He's sending a secret message to his base that he thinks all of them are criminals is not what America thinks and how. I think there's a competency question. I got ahead because here we have. We have an acting homeland security who used to be who who used used to be the Border Patrol Commissioner. There's an acting border patrol commissioner who used to be the acting ice director. The current acting is director. It's the second time he's been the acting ice director. That's just V._H._S.. I'M GONNA put up a squirrel here of all the acting that we have here. It's going to take awhile. Wow so we can start talking. Well people see here Labor to Fa- I mean these aren't small agencies this competency question the president doesn't mind it though charming. He likes he thinks and based on my reporting the president truly believes that he has more flexibility when he has and he said publicly late to he has more flexibility when he has all these acting positions in place he has a new acting position obviously with the Labor Secretary who just stepped down what two days ago but the bigger issue and when I talked to folks in and around the White House it's not necessarily Homeland Security Chuck. It's not necessarily D._H._S.. It's the Defense Department apartment who is still without a permanent defense secretary that is a concern for the president allies from people who support him in and around Washington here and really thumbing the nose at the constitution. These people are supposed to be confirmed that are leading these agencies. That's the way our founding fathers wrote to council solution. I'm so sick of some in your party Carlos waving the Constitution when Democrats in office and it completely ignoring the constitution when a Republicans and supported remember that even when there was not this long list of acting things even in the earliest days of the administration when when they rolled out the so-called Muslim ban there was no coordination between any of these departments the the White House Com shop had not given talking points to anybody even defend this when the president was over at the Pentagon signing the executive order so even when they were fully staffed with the team. This was still really messy so now when you get down to the third string it's going to be worse and member that eighteen not everybody thought that was eighteen right and fairness all right coach one one more by just briefly the other side of what Tim said because immigration is going to be a top issue in twenty twenty if the President Can Bait Democrats into saying that the status close acceptable that we should have open borders or that like some are saying that we should offer benefits and all sorts of a public welfare benefits to those that are coming that could cost Democrats as well. I think there's potential peril for them there as well we'll pause it here. When we come back? We're all pretty excited about our next guest pink hair purple hair and we have tattoos dreadlocks we got white girls girls and everything in between the story of the championship took your women's national soccer team Mega Burkina joins me next. This is my charge to everyone. We have to be better. We have to love more hate less. We gotTA <hes> listen more in talk less. We gotta know that this is everybody's responsibility. Welcome back that was Meghan. Rufino who right now is bigger than Lebron bigger than Brady bigger than just about anyone in the sports world. Maybe beyond Pino of course is the CO captain and star the U._S.. Women's national soccer team which just when the World Cup again but she's about much more than soccer Pino is made news both for her fight for equal pay for women's soccer players and for a refusal to celebrate or teams victory with President Trump at the White House and we are very happy to have making repeated join us this morning beano welcome to meet the press. Thank you thank you for having me on <hes> so a longtime boxing reporter who's now a baseball announcer. Charlie Steiner said to me he viewed you as a modern day Ali and here's what sports illustrated wrote their elements elements of a Modern Day Ali Muhammad Ali the boxer in re Pinos Co Mingling of sports and social activists and say nothing of our ability to turn the media attention even when negative in certain circles to her advantage. What do you make the comparisons? That's very flattering. I don't know if I'm if I'm Ali but I'm happy to be. The biggest ally can't holly what what opportunity do you see here. Do you see it's like okay. We got the attention. I am going to make these points. I'm GONNA make these. I ain't GonNa do this activism. I think the opportunity is in everyone's exhaustion of the fighting and the negative and our team has managed to make people proud again to capture people's interest and make them. I want to do something I think people are asking the question. How can we rally around this team and in that really what the team stands for whether it's equal pay or racial equality or l._G._B._T._Q.? Rights I think we've just managed to give people hope doc and with that now we need to do the next step which system to actually take the progress that let me go specifics with equal pay I I. I'm sort of surprised here that the corporate communities that support the U._S. talker federation have been so slow to see this have been so slow to fill the gap. I know proctor and gamble came out today and they've they've given an additional bonus to every member of the team but I I understand the way these deals are negotiated. Some some of this is the U._S.. Soccer Federation but are you disappointed in the way corporate. America's handled this your sponsors yeah I am. I think that we can do a lot more a lot more quickly. I think that it is a complicated issue and I think sometimes times we get in the weeds about it 'cause he. The force for the trees when you know big sponsors can just write the check these are some of the most powerful corporations not just in sports but in the world and have so much weight that they can throw around <hes> and I think that they just need to get comfortable throwing around how much of this is you gotTa grow the game globally by the way because it does seem as the Westernize nations who've supported women's sports I yes and that and that is perhaps made folks in the corporate community think oh there's not enough. No I think that the global aspect is huge even just in the last three or four years to see the way that other federations have succeeded <hes> with their teams on the field. They've thrown money behind them and shocker. Those teams hurt doing better. It's good that it was harder time right. No no fed to the other teams but it was a little bit harder. That's good for the game exactly it's great for the game and I think it allows us to put so much more pressure on as well to mandate that these federations is have the money to pay their programs and to mandate that FIFA and to push them really to do more. You were talking about the beginning that you see an opportunity here to to to preach a message of unity. I think the hardest conundrum that a lot of us are in an American politics whether it's those of us the care about these institutions in this town or otherwise is that how do you preach unity and at the same time you don't want to be near President trump and I get that how do you do both. I'm figuring that out the day <hes> I think you inspire people of until a trump supporter who loves watching him. I wish you'd go to the White House yeah. I think that I would try to share our message. Do you believe that people are created equal to you believe that equal pay should be mandated. Do you believe that everyone should have health care. Do you believe that we should treat everyone with respect. I think those are the basics of what we're talking about and I understand people feel upset or uncomfortable table. There's <hes> I think some feelings of disrespect about the anthem protests or things that I've said in the past but ultimately I think I am here open and honest. I've admitted mistakes I will continue to do that. I'll continue to be vulnerable and be honest and be open and want to have that conversation because I think trump's message excludes people that look like me and that army of course but it explodes excludes a lot of people on his base as well and I think that he's trying to divide so he can conquer not unite so we can all conquer conquer anything he could do to change your mind about visit to the White House. There's like fifty policy issues that we can reverse get going. I'm unit. Would it would take a tremendous amount. I think I'm I understand that that progresses sometimes slow and I'll never close any door all the way but I think it would take more than than trump is willing to do. What are you going to do next? You want to keep playing. Are you going to get us one more World Cup and would you at all entertain professionalizing social activism. Perhaps running for office or something else. I do continue to keep playing. I'm not sure I'm calling for office. There's no qualifications for office. Yeah that's true up to forty before I guess there was you know what I'm GonNA fight for equal pay every day for myself for my team and for every single person out there man woman immigrant U._S. citizen person of color whatever it may be equal pay. As the Great Serena Williams said until I'm in my grave tell me what you were about eleven or twelve. When Brandy chastain was that moment of guess what girls can go crazy and celebrate? What do you hope the twelve year old girl bunch of them are in the audience? Today thinks about twenty years from now in remembering you and what you gave to the sport. I hope the same thing I felt I think in that moment it was just an incredible the explosion of joy it was so bright old so off the cuff. It was just everything that you want from sports. You want just those moments that are totally indescribable. I hope they feel inspired that they can do that. They can take on more you're that they're worth every penny and more and that they have fun and with a smile doing well. You have fun. You always have a small on your face that is that it's been. It's been great menu. You have a lot of humility. I have to say that Pino luck to you. Thank you very much room for you. Get another World Cup to always always there's five fingers exactly all right when we come back as Robert Muller gets ready to testify in ten days went to Americans think about impeachment now that's next. Let's we are backdated download time until billionaire. Tom Star jumped into the twenty twenty democratic racists week. None of the candidates have wanted to make impeaching president trump the main focus of their campaign and there may be a reason for that based on our new N._B._C. News Wall Street Journal poll. Our latest poll finds it just twenty one percent of registered voters say there's enough evidence for Congress I to begin impeachment proceedings now. That's actually a six point drop since last month when we pulled all adults by the way not just registered voters and it doesn't tank much imagination to guess which voters are driving the pro impeachment sentiment thirty nine percent of Democrats say there is enough evidence to begin impeaching president trump though that's not a majority of Democrats compared to twenty one percent of independence that of course Republicans want nothing to do with it. Eighty five percent say they want impeachment dropped altogether and like everything this year this has has to be looked through the Lens of the twenty twenty presidential race especially among those Democrats. That's where you've seen increasingly predictable divide along the ideological spectrum only thirty seven percent of Joe Biden supporters or more likely to consider themselves. Moderates are interested in starting impeachment impeachment hearings now compare that with the more progressive candidates sanders warn Harris support for impeachment among their voters is in the mid to upper forties now of course where the candidates stand in trump's impeachment won't matter if these candidates Alston from office at the ballot box but politically speaking impeachment is not likely to go away at least as a wedge issue Robert Muller will testify about his Russia investigation before the end of the month and president trump is likely to run against the idea of impeachment no matter what Speaker Nancy Pelosi closely decides to do about it in cotton when we come back the democratic divide small change for speak chain the pragmatists versus the purest policy the A._N._C. and gave us next back now with endgame in a lot of intra-party politics and divides it seems this week let's start with Pelosi see Maureen Dowd started this last week with their interview of Pelosi and then just comes brings the house down on A._M._C. Claire mccaskill in the age of trump. There's no more stupid proposition than that than that. Nancy Pelosi is the problem if her pygmalion acolytes decide decide that burning down the house is more important than deposing trump. They will be left with a racist backward president and the emotional satisfaction of their own purely yeah. I think the thing that really set me off this week. was them going after cherise David's ads this is the first native American woman elected to Congress. She is the second openly lesbian member of Congress in history. She represents Kansas from a district that has been held owned by the Republicans for cycle after cycle after cycle. She took out an incumbent Republican congressman the notion that they're going after her and playing the race card. What are they thinking? I mean what the hell are. They thinking this is a situation where I appreciate the passion and I appreciate the point of view and I appreciate the debate but we have got to come together and stay fix on the goal here and remain pragmatic about how we win and twenty twenty or the way you sound like Ron Johnson Ron Johnson said the same thing wouldn't take the bait their call us Cabello is what I say I sound like I don't say I sound like Ron John. What's interesting here? Is this are you having Bainer. Flashbacks works with the Mark Meadows Jim Jordan. Is that what we're seeing here. Although I feel like the the Freedom Caucus had more followers than does right now well for now but Nancy Pelosi sees this coming she saw John Bainer suffer she saw Paul Ryan suffer with a difficult element in their caucus and she is doing everything possible to prevent it. She knows that it's a threat to her majority makers. She knows that it could make her caucus ungovernable and that's not good for any leader so that's why we see her coming out very aggressively container and especially Ryan were more laid back about dealing with some of their more difficult numbers Tim. What advice do you think Ryan would be giving Pelosi right now? He seems to have a lot of opinions about how he failed. He basically is admitting he failed. The parallels are actually pretty uncanny between the tea party wave and ten and this sort of progressive wave in eighteen although it is worth noting Carlos has point the progressives weren't the majority makers in two thousand eighteen furthermore the Republican wave in two thousand ten was not just in Congress it was in the state legislators across the country that allowed them to consolidate power in the state houses redraw these lines and so that allowed a broader portion of the Republican base to move to the right in seeking elected office has to realize is that if it weren't for these forty Democrats picking up these suburban held traditionally Republican seats that they don't have the majority right now and that's obviously the message Flosi has been trying to push but she's going to have a hard time keeping the lid on this thing halley this directly sleep plays into where we're seeing in the presidential primary of Warrant S. It's the phrase it earlier. I think with Senator Sanders it's the insider outsider piece you're seeing that large on the twenty twenty debate stage. You're seeing it here in the House of Representatives with this pretty frightening to your point Senator Listen listen you may and Republicans may not want to talk about the intra-party back and forth guests who does WanNa talk about Donald Trump. President trump loves this please directly into what he's tweeting about this morning the way that he sees Democratic Party weakness Yes your book. Your excerpts got under his skin skin. I'm told based on my reporting. The president was tweeting about Kevin McCarthy for example and how much more he likes him but the president will focus on this issue with Alexandra Cossio Cortez with Speaker Pelosi because he thinks that it wins in points and also he hates this talk about Republicans not supporting him about the never trump movement. He hated that so much now he has an opportunity to say. Look Democrats have their own problems too. Well clear chick this up we the Democratic presidential primary is a tale of two primaries among modern conservatives which make up forty five percent of the democratic. The Primary Electric Joe Biden is up twenty points. Take a look here Kamala Harris second under the moderate conservative category at fifteen nobody else the other three and single digits now among liberals fifty three percent of the party call themselves liberals and look at this. It's worn by double digits add up Bernie Sanders. If you assume he grabbed she eventually grabs more of the sanders support or vice versa. You can see where this is going. We're GONNA have a clash at some point here between the leading moderate and the leading liberal. What does this mean for the party well? I think a lot of it is how they communicate with the members of the Democratic Party. <hes> you know wide sweeping structural change. How do you do that under our Constitution? If you only have forty nine votes in the Senate. How do you do do that? You can't do that by executive order so there is a disconnect between what is possible and what is pragmatic and I think that whoever wins are nomination needs say focused on those voters that are going to decide this election and and they're not in the Bronx is Elizabeth Warren starting to at least. Do you think she has the ability to to bridge. This divide sanders. It feels like has less of a chance I I don't know Warren keeps talking about this massive structural change and I keep thinking how does she do this right and I think voters will eventually begin thinking about that. I do think that any of the top five have the ability to begin to focus more on some of those voters that make up almost half of the Democratic primary that are so into Joe Biden right now because they see him a steady and she goes someone who will bring normalcy back to the Oval Office and that's a really important thing he has going for somewhat counter intuitive would've but in a way by is the change candidate the party that is challenging. The incumbent president has to make a compelling case for change and Joe Biden is probably the candidate on the left that is most different than Donald Trump. Joe Biden is vanilla and Vanilla would be a change to the presidency. That's an interesting point. You make this argument that okay. He won with disruption. Democrats need to be more disruptive but does the tree right. Does the country is worn seen as more disruption disruption in a weird way by that kind of I mean listen. I think that the if Elizabeth Warren ends up being the Democratic Party nominee there's going to be some frankly celebrations at least from what I'm told inside the trump campaign who believes that she is somebody who they could beat easily in some places where they need to win and there is not that sense of Joe Biden and that is evidenced by the president going after him so directly and so frequently now there are others in this race who could end up being problematic for president trump like Senator Kamala Harris who got a second look by the trump campaign by people close to the president after the debates a couple of weeks ago. We'll see what happens at the next. One Harris is the one candidate who's in third among liberals third among you know I is is she. The one that's got the porridge that everybody's comfortable we talk about coalitions in politics right and as you examine this Democratic field you look through the polling you talk to the campaigns and sort of studied the strategy of their races Harris would seem to be the one person if she can put it together if she can run a strategically coherent campaign who could build that coalition whereas you struggle to see it with some of the others Claire Megan repaint. Oh what do you think I think I think she's fantastic. I was struck how humble and it was really refreshing. I mean listen a cost of the last couple of weeks. I've admitted on these cameras and number of times. I'd love to have that vote back. I regret that vote. It was mistake of when I love it and she admits mistakes did she hasn't done it all right then everything she said hasn't been perfect but you get her heart and our hearts in the right place and she will do more to move the needle on equal pay then all of the Democratic Women in Congress if Nike hasn't filled the gap by now. I don't know they're not the Nike that I thought they were. That was a wonderful interview. I enjoyed it. I think she should go to the White House. I think she should show the country then we can talk to each other that we can meet and that we can disagree three but refusing to talk to each other refusing to meet. That's GonNa Guess what we can always talk here and we were happy to host her here so there that's all we have today Tim again congratulations the Book american-carnage go by. That's all we ever today. Thank you for watching the remember. If it's Sunday. It's meet the press.

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Megan Rapinoe And Sue Bird, 'Jeopardy!' College Championship, Fenway Organist

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Megan Rapinoe And Sue Bird, 'Jeopardy!' College Championship, Fenway Organist

"This is only a game. I'm Karen Given here. It is week four of broadcasting from my closet. And it's almost enough to get a sports reporter down. Luckily I found a little pick me up this week a joyful tribute in the face of so much bad news. Maybe you saw it to some. That's a recent. Instagram live from my favorite sports power. Couple three time. Wnba champion and four time Olympic. Gold medalist sue bird and two time women's World Cup champion and sports illustrated's two thousand nineteen sports person of the year. Megan repeat no and. I can't believe I'm saying this. But Megan ensue welcomed. Only a game. I having us so like the rest of your staying at home right now. How you hold up. We're pretty good so far so good. Yeah we've been saying I mean we're really fortunate. We have a place to shelter in place in our jobs have been postponed. But eventually we'll get those back and you know were able to be safe and just kinda hole up for a while. I like to picture that the two of you whenever it gets really stressful. You just break into song. That's what I like to hold on my heart. That was actually pretty just impromptu and random. Yeah which actually makes it even better totally not blend so. There's actually a serious reason. I wanted you to come on the show and that story starts with what was supposed to be a big summer women's sports sue. Let's start with basketball. People are still talking about last year's wnba finals. The League has a new commissioner. A labor deal more game scheduled for TV. How did you feel about the momentum heading into the twenty twenty season what we had it? That's for sure all the things you just listed. I think we were headed in a direction that we really hadn't been in a while. Maybe ever to be honest Excluding like the first couple years of the League it felt like we had turned a corner. We were about ready to explode and then this obviously happens so for a lot of reasons. It's a big bummer. For Women's basketball another one is the NCAA tournament you know. There was a lot of excitement in women's College basketball even and that ultimately will will impact the WNBA because all of those seniors. We're going to come into our league. Obviously basketball is probably like the last one less in terms of like life but just in this one little conversation. We're having it's really unfortunate for women's basketball not to say that we can't pick up that momentum whenever we can but it is a Downer so megan as everyone knows you're coming off a big World Cup win and the women's pro soccer league here in the US the end of U. S. L. has also been gaining in attendance attention and advertising dollars. This year's season opener between your rain and the Washington Spirit was scheduled. To be the league's I live national. Broadcast it really feels like this is all being put on. Hold at the worst possible time. Yes it's not great timing no coming off a great year Obviously the World Cup but I think we also get momentum from other sports as well as the WNBA had their contract negotiations. And you know what was a really big win? Not just for them but for other women's sports as well and sort of of course we would love to just kind of roll right into it but this will just demand our creativity when we get back out there well as all this was sort of happening as the Olympics were postponed and seasons were delayed. I've gotTA think it had to be somewhat of a mixed bag for both of you. I mean on the one hand. It's the only decision that could possibly be made for. Everyone's safety on the other hand. It's got to be kind of scary to be told as so many people are right now. You just can't do your job. Yeah I think We actually might have a little bit of a unique standpoint in that my dad has actually been like monitoring. He's a doctor. Which kind of gives them a little bit of street cry. But I'm not joking. I remember the day. 'cause he was visiting me in Seattle. It was like February twenty third and he was like I wouldn't be surprised if the Olympics are cancelled and I was like what like no but then like again he yeah. He was visiting for a couple of days so like in those couple of days. We have more and more conversations. I remember I even had just in those couple of days had gotten to a point where I was like no dad if anything they would go fan Lewis like they would figure out a way and I was like relying on this to Meghan very quickly. I was in a mental space of like. Oh my God this might get canceled so truth be told when it finally came out that it was being postponed. A year was music to our ears kind of like booth. At least it's happening. It was it was kind of a weird time to the further. It got along without cancelling it put a lot of stress on athletes. Most of the athletes haven't qualified yet so to find pools to swim in or I don't know judo players like they're gonna be being able to practice or if you have to get on track so it was kind of putting this undue pressure when all the signs were kind of pointing to locate clearly. It's not gonNA happen and then really like all that it takes to put on the Olympics. During this global pandemic this global crisis we should probably be diverting those efforts and moneys and focus and brain power into cove in nineteen and not putting on the Olympics. Absolutely let's talk about some financials of the women's sports world the minimum salary in wfl is just twenty thousand a year most players in the WNBA rely on playing overseas to pay the bills. What could a prolonged stoppage mean for athletes in your leagues? And is there a lot of concern among your teammates? I think there is concern. Yeah as far as I know the plan is to pay everyone through whenever this is I think everyone's still hoping that at some point you know. During the summer late summer that Lisa portion of the season will go on but it is quite uncertain obviously for the financial stability of each team in the league. It's GonNa be difficult to pay all the salaries out without having you know really any income coming in being able to play those games. So it is worrisome. For sure for us You know similar in that as far as this. Wma seasons concern. We don't know what's going to happen. We do have fairly regular calls with our commissioner. There's updates but then it's always like that's GonNa Probably Change in twenty four hours because this whole thing is changing. Every day I think at the end of the day we won't know till we know we don't have what a lot of people have been talking about with the NBA. Which is the force majeure? We don't have that in our CPA. So that kind of adds a different wrinkle for us but more than anything. I mean you mentioned a lot of us play overseas. That's where we make most of our money to be honest although the new CBA have changed that. But most of our money's made over there and you know those leagues had to stop this year so a lot of the women were home probably by early. March. Let's call it. And so they missed out anywhere from two two and a half months worth of salary and then I actually worry about next year's overseas market because I remember in two thousand eight two thousand nine when the market crashed there were teams in Europe that folded. I do think the WNBA will figure it out. I think it'll be fine. Long-term I actually worry more about overseas. You both must be speaking with other athletes about all of this. How do you help each other through all this uncertainty? We're doing doing it home. How are you getting your gun and see what everyone's doing and have runs keeping saying everyone's pretty much doing the same things? We are trying to a lot of memes being created the names. Not Not as much serious talk. I mean I think early on like like I said. I had a lot of Teammates who were overseas so once that travel ban got put on for Europe. There was a couple of them flying back and we were like every step of the way I was like what's happening now. Are you in customs. What's that light you know like now it's kind of more into like the light and Fluffy? China Help People. Kinda SORTA get through the day with just like like I said memes and you know trash talk if you will that happens just you know that's most of my group chatting with my team as anything that's great so one more serious question before we have a little fun. I think my worry is that when sports come back and they will come back that everyone's going to be so excited about the return of men's pro sports that the women schemes are going to be even more forgotten than they are an in normal year. So I'm wondering what we can realistically do to keep the momentum going when sports return I think we just need to to keep out there and keep talking about it and keep putting our sport on display. If it's a really no one has ever come to our games in left and are like Oh. That's not that exciting to watch. I mean I think we need to have a concerted marketing effort once we get back and making sure that everyone knows when the Games are probably a little bit more affordable than some of the other pro sports but hopefully people will respect the fact. Really that we've continued to train this whole time and will come out and watch. Us play and support our leaks. This time is extremely unique and I think a lot of female athletes similar to male athletes but a lot of female athletes are popping up on podcasts and ID lives and we're obviously doing our own little. It live just shot quick to all the healthcare workers people on the front lines in the hospital by hospitals hospitals. And I think part of what makes men's sports successful. Yes the way they play and all that good stuff but also we know a lot about them. We see their personalities. 'cause I mean to be blunt. They're shoved in our faces. Which as a as a fan. I love all sports. I don't mind it but now I think you are starting to see a lot of female athletes and that can draw people as well so hopefully. That's a nice little bonus. Absolutely it's been fun. I been saying like now's the time anyone you've been wanting to talk to you forever for them now because they have time so I wanna I in this conversation on a happy note and all of us who have been asked to work from home had some trouble adjusting to the new routine. I've had to get used to my closet here And it sounds like you have not been entirely immune from that. I understand that you have something resembling actual exercise equipment now. But I'm hoping you can describe to me how you manage to keep working out without anything resembling real workout gear. We had like a back pans out. Walls at one point. Yeah yes so. It was a backpack of water bottles. We waited on a scale. Where like all right? We've got a twenty pound dumbbell here and then we had like a water jug filled with water way that it was like all right. This is the ten pound quote Medicine Mall. We're supposed to be using then. We ordered some stuff so it's gotten a bit easier. We were doing lunges in our hallway. The Hallway we step up on the coffee table with early. You just you just gotTa get created today though we have to find a steep hill. That's we gotta get created today. Where like looking Google maps like asking my brother-in-law unlike do you know of any hills but the one thing? I think we've learned also you can't be too hard on yourself through this time right like all right if I'm supposed to be doing X Y and Z and it's just too hard to figure out that's OKAY JUST DO ABC. Yeah just relax and call today and like be kind to yourself all right soon. Megan thank you so much for this. It's been great. Thank you for having that Seattle Storm Point Guard Sue Bird and well rain forward Megan re piano and if you're wondering where you can watch their updates from home I've been wanting to shave my head to and then like I did a little test today and I was like a lot of. We'll have links to sue and Megan's INSTAGRAM's at only a game dot org if you missed our conversation last week with comedian Gary Coleman. It's not too late. Subscribe to the only game podcast. And you'll find all of our most recent shows if you like what you hear. Consider leaving us a five star review and thanks Scott. Renske sang in punk bands during his eleven year career. As a major league reliever. It's all I've ever known I don't know anything else. This is just normal to me. That's coming up on only a game from NPR. WanNa add more positively to your podcast checkout kind world stories of extraordinary kindness and compassion. That's kind world. Subscribe now on Apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen. I'm Karen given just before a recent move fifty two year old former major league relief pitcher Scott Rudin. Ski was going through some junk in his garage. He found an old suitcase. Full of Fan Letters. It was such a a flashback of these kids that would reach out and right from Lehigh Valley Pennsylvania or some more in. Tom's river New Jersey places. I I wasn't even aware existed and It was a lot of fun but these letters weren't from baseball fans. They were from music fans and they were written over three and a half decades ago when Radinsky was the front man of a hardcore punk band. Only Games Gary Wallich has the story nine thousand nine hundred. Eighty two punk rock was booming. California bands like the dead. Kennedys were making national headlines. Scott Radinsky and his junior high friends from oxnard in southern California were captivated. We started going to the record store and it was like anytime you heard another ban being mentioned you go check it out or some of the older kids might say. Hey there's a show going on at Florentine Gardens the dead Kennedys and Tesol Scott and his friends were also influenced by so-called straight edge hardcore bands from the east coast which along with some of their followers avoided drugs alcohol and tobacco. Scott in his friends started their own band you we were all skateboarders growing up in suburbia the group came together. We developed pretty quick. Imagine fourteen year old kids fifteen year old kids just learning how to play instruments full of Energy Scott in his bandmates called themselves scared straight. They put together shows wherever they could you know vets halls and and Legion halls and little bars and there was a place out by an airport like a little hut and it was a lot of. Do It yourself parties gigs. And this pretty tight group of you know maybe hundred hundred fifty kids in one thousand nine hundred eighty four with Scott on lead vocals scared straight was featured on a compilation p. This is a fourteen year. Old Kid screaming edger. Once that record came out it kind of went a little more national made you feel a little worthy but noise was a problem. You know we rehearse in our garage at my house and the neighbors would get Super Mad. At times they would call the police and my dad actually built the extension off my bedroom. We had a soundproof little. Those probably ten by ten room was pretty cool. Scott's was a big part of his life he drive the band and all their gear to shows in the family station wagon. He also coached some of the baseball team. Scott and his brother played on Scott made his high school baseball team as a second-string first baseman but Scott asked his coach if he could try pitching in the final game of his sophomore season. Scott got his chance. He threw a complete seven inning game and his team won. This is something I wanna do. This is pretty cool. I'm going to be a pitcher Scott. Went on to become his team's ace. Did you ever get crap from the PUNK? Rock crowd for being a serious ballplayer. Oh Yeah Gosh I always would do my best to try to keep the music and the baseball separated. I didn't I didn't like speaking about music to the baseball people nor did I like speaking about baseball to the music people. I don't think either side really got it but that same year. His Dad was diagnosed with cancer. The prognosis was not good. Scott started skipping his last class to drive his dad to the doctor and later visit them at the hospice to have my dad. Throughout my whole life being active in a part of my life to see that and witness you know over the course of probably a solid year and a half watch him just kinda go downhill was just. It was brutal. Scott's dad died his senior year but Scott was determined to all the things his dad had supported. He kept singing with the band and playing baseball. And then he got a big break in one thousand nine hundred eighty six. He was drafted out of high school by the Chicago. White Sox he was the seventy fifth overall pick. Scott graduated high school on a Friday the next day he was in Florida for training camp. You go from being the best in your area too now. All of a sudden I'm standing with guys who pitched in College. They were just fresh out of the College World Series. And you look around you realize damn man. I'm in Seamy valley anymore. Scott knew that if he was going to make it as a pro baseball player it was going to be tough to keep creating music. Scott spent his first four seasons bouncing between rookie and single able during off seasons he connected with his old bandmates in the hope that they could write some more songs and play gigs. For the first handful years guys were going to college. They had their own jobs and it was less frequent. But it still continued in one. Thousand nine hundred. Ninety Scott unexpectedly made the bigs right out of spring training. His style was aggressive and relentless much like his singing. He was even in the mix a long shot. Al Rookie of the year candidate. He pitched well during the ninety one. And Ninety two seasons around that time we had a fresh batch of songs that were kind of like this new style and somebody had said to us well. Is it a scared? Straight record? Doesn't sound like scared straight. We kind of sat back and reflected and said we'll kind of right and we decided to change the name along. We had already pressed a thousand or two thousand CDs. And when we received the first batch of CDs and cassettes we went to Kinkos and made a little sticker only open to every single one of the jewel cases up and we slapped ten foot pole over the top of the scared straight and then anywhere. It said scared straight on the on the jacket. We just blacked it out with the SHARPIE. It was fresh start. Scott would sometimes play his favourite songs on a boombox in the white sox clubhouse most of his teammates were completely unfamiliar with Punk Music. You play music. Oh cool in rock band and that was kind of the extent of the conversation. I would downplay your plan a rock band and just leave it at that. Scott could have passed for any other major league ballplayer but when he worked on his songs. It was like a different personality. And that's just the guy that comes out when I walk into the Music Room Scott's bandmates would mail him four track cassettes with music. They'd recorded at their rehearsal space. He takes them along when he went on the road with the White Sox at his vocals on the spare tracks and Melvin back. Scott sometimes used the day to day experiences of traveling from city to city for lyrical inspiration. There was one line in a song. I'M GONNA be on the airplane. Fly In high of the grey seat on the floor beneath my feet. The song is called fade away after the nineteen ninety three season. Scott was diagnosed with Hodgkin's disease. He returned to full health following surgery and months of Radiation Scott. Missed the entire nineteen ninety-four season around that same time. He left ten foot pole. I reached out to some friends and said hey guys wanNA start band. They named the new band. Paulie Scott got back on the mound for the ninety five season while working on an album with his bandmates over the phone life was getting back to normal but Scott struggled on the mound and after the ninety five season the white sox cut him he hated leaving Chicago. That was my home. I had success there. Yeah crush me. But at least he had a new band and an off season which to finish. The album and go on. Tour is a staff for Scott. It was all about continuing to express himself through his songs and not about making it big in the music industry. That was what it was all about for me. Was I only have this short window of time so I have to make this happen? Scott signed with the dodgers in Nineteen ninety-six. He pitched well in La for three seasons and then hung on for three more seasons in Saint Louis and Cleveland. He retired from playing in two thousand one. With a record of forty two wins twenty five losses and fifty two saves not exactly hall of fame stats but Scott struck out. Ken Griffey Junior seven times in sixteen at bats. Griffey's on record as saying that Scott was the toughest lefty he ever faced. I won't get any better than that You know to hear that from one of the best hitters of my era. That's pretty good compliment. That makes me feel pretty like you did something right. Scott Rudin Ski has coached for nearly twenty years in the minors and with the Big League Indians and angels. He's more recently been involved with player Development for USA Baseball and coaching high school. And he's released a total of eight records with poly so the baseball and the music continue to exist side by side. It's all I've ever known I. I don't know anything else. This is just normal to me. Police had planned to tour in Europe this summer. That's on hold for now. So these days Scott. Redon ski is spending time with his family and who could blame them if every now and then he opens up that suitcase and rereads fan letters from three and a half decades ago. That's only a games Gary Wallet when the NC Double A. cancelled march madness. You might have thought you had to wait until next year for the chance to paint your face in your college colours and trash-talk to that university down the road but never fear because another one of our cherished rites of spring was thankfully recorded back in February. And it's just as much as it's always been. This is the Twenty Twenty Jeopardy College Championship. The ringers Claire. Mcnair has written all about how this annual almost but not really. Sporting event can rescue us from our no sports world. Hi Claire Hey okay. So let's get this out of the way right away because I know there are some people at home saying jeopardy's not a sport so give me your best argument for jeopardy as sport all right. Well I think a lot of casual jeopardy viewers are surprised to learn. Just how sport like? The show can be People think okay. If you're preparing go in jeopardy maybe you make a bunch of flash cards and and that definitely does happen but you know it has become this very serious Thing over the last few years people compared to like training to be a fighter pilot. A lot of contestants give up alcohol and caffeine in the weeks before they tape. They rearranged their mealtimes eat what they think they will when they're In the studio for their tape day they rig home buzzer systems and drill themselves over and over trying to shave off literal hundreds or thousands of a second from their response. Time so it. It really is a very sport. Light Competition at some levels. That's amazing now. Some of those sports like comparisons go away during the college tournament. The college kids probably aren't giving up every Saturday night to train with coach for example on the other hand there's quite a lot of school. Spirit right yes there absolutely is and I think that's especially true this year The way the college tournament works. Is they bring in Fifteen students from fifteen different schools. And you know they're always some Ivy League institutions in the mix and that's the case this year is while you bet your Princeton in your Yale but this year there are also a ton of schools that have well known sporting programs which is really fun. And it seems. Producers are trying to make this sporty as they can. This week saw students from the University of Florida and Florida. State face off against Yale student from Miami. I mean it's it's a pretty unique tournament for jeopardy because producers. Really want you to choose a player and cheer them on. And maybe that's a student who happens to come from your school or maybe that's whoever's playing your schools rival you know it's just like sports well so an example. That's just like sports. I'd like to take you to a moment that happened this week. Ride our ride in two thousand nine thousand nine hundred. Matthew mcconaughey became a communications professor at the University of this is home state. Sarah what a sexist okay suratis Princeton but another one of the contestants Marshall is wearing a university of Texas sweatshirt exactly. I think I'm sure that he was really hoping he would. He would win. That buzzer battle and missed out. Can we talk for just a minute about the sweat shirts because I've always kind of wondered? Why not t shirts? Is it cold in that studio? It's really cold in that studio actually day out of concern for all the lights and everything. Because there's just so much happening on TV stage They keep it at a crypt like chill so honestly like I think. The hoodies are a great move. I feel terrible for contestants on normal jeopardy who are just in like a short sleeve shirt because they're told address for whatever season there episode. We'll be airing in which is not always the same season that they're taping in so pro. Hoodie are all right. So like March madness there are cinderella stories. I understand that this year. Cinderella story is Ole Miss. Yeah absolutely so one of the highlights. This tournament came on Wednesday when London. Lauren's who is a sophomore at Ole? Miss she won pretty authoritatively. And what's really remarkable about her victories that she did it without finding any of the daily doubles or betting. Big and final jeopardy. And that's the way usually you kind of catapult yourself forward on jeopardy so it was really just a very impressive game in adding to that. This is the very first time in the tournament's going on for thirty years old MRS FIRST APPEARANCE. So it's very exciting to see them advance. I want to take just a second though to acknowledge her chat with Alex because in the history of contestants saying unexpected things to Elektra I think maybe this ranks right up there. You're majors are Arabic and international studies with a view to doing what I could marry. Rich shake in the Middle East a lot of money. That'd be fun Been worse plans. Probably I've been part of the fun of of this tournament in particular is you are seeing these college kids. And she's just a sophomore right so it's it's just so fun to see. I mean literal teenagers on a lot of cases. Just kind of have some fun so the clues can also be a bit more fun. Take this one. From the two thousand eighteen tournament we can wiggle. Wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle. Wiggle yeah I apologize for the low quality recording on that but I really couldn't resist yet. I mean the clues in the college tournament often have something of an educational theme not not in that specific clue but there are often a little easier than normal jeopardy in their offering more fun. There's usually a lot more pop culture in the college tournament. A lot of it is is pretty recent stuff and the writers love to do things. Like have Alex. Trebek's read funny lyrics rap lyrics and he has said that he kind of makes a point of actually not going to listen to those songs so he can kind of deliver his own authentic interpretation of lyrics like that one because his his interpretation is not at all like the real thing which is probably for the best. The contestants have a lot of fun with this tournament to. Here's a clip. From two thousand seventeen we come to Lily Chin. She had twenty thousand four hundred going into final today and her response. Who is the spiciest mean Lord? All right I don't want to say that these moments don't happen on the regular show but there does seem to be something a little looser a little more fun about the college tournament right there absolutely is and that's what makes it so special. I mean in addition to jeopardy kind of encouraging you to route along like it is just authentically really fun. And they're obviously really really bright students but it's just great to kind of watch them have a sense of humor about it and Lilly. Chan has actually said that in the years since her tournament she's still approached by people about the spiciest me. More people will see her on the street and just shout spices me more at her. Okay so there's one more week of the tournament still to come make your best argument for why it should be the sport we all tune into next week. Well first of all. There's not a lot of competition going on right now on the sporting front but it is a really serious competition and and it's a new competition you know you turn on. Espn in there. You're watching Old World Series Games World Finals Games But but here. We don't really know what will happen Even though it did tape couple months ago and it's just really fun to watch people who are really good at something. Do that thing And I think everybody should tune in next week. Claire McNair is a staff writer for the ringer. Claire is it too soon dimension that you're reading book about jeopardy not at all too soon. I'm writing a book about jeopardy and that'll be out in November. Thanks Claire Thank you so much On what was supposed to be baseball's opening day a friend suggested that. Red Sox organist Josh. Kanter play music on a livestream and I thought that sounds like fun. I was like how do you do livestream? He said I don't know look on Google. That's coming up and remember you can follow us on facebook and twitter at only a game. Npr need to escape the news for a moment checkout endless thread a podcast from wr and read it from mysteries to histories two stories that will remind you of our shared humanity. Subscribe to endless thread on Apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen. I'm carrying given next week. On only a game we go inside. Nascar'S I racing series which turns out to be a pretty satisfying substitute for the real thing. But now it's time for Charlie Peers. And the week's news. Hi Charlie Karen. There's been a lot of talk this week about how and when to bring. Back Sports. Let's start with Major League baseball. According to reports the League is considering returning to training camps in May and starting play soon thereafter. Here's the catch. All the players and all the personnel for all the teams would be sequestered in Arizona in. What's being called a bubble league? What do you make this idea? I think it's bubble headed player's GonNa feel about you know essentially being away from their families and you know living in a hotel or whatever you know. I'm sure it'll be very nice hotel but this is just crazy. You know. It's good to think outside the box but sometimes you really do have to come back into the box. Other Leagues are also looking into options to restart though none might be as committed to the idea as UFC President Dana white he had secured a location in the US to host UFC. Two forty nine on April eighteenth and was working on securing an undisclosed private island for future international fights but all fights are off after white received a call from quote the highest level. You can go at Disney. So at least someone's thinking clearly. Yeah Congratulate Mickey. He's the The highest level of Disney isn't he thinks so mickey. Mickey decided that this wasn't going to happen. I am intrigued by the private island idea though. Well white seems to think that this is some sort of public service he told. Espn quote you. Keep people in their houses for too long without entertainment. People are going to start losing their minds and we need to start figuring out solutions. I mean on the one hand. We do need something to watch once. We've all streamed tiger king but I'm not sure the US is the right choice. Yeah I mean invite away. Isn't his primary audience people who've lost their minds? Meanwhile Oklahoma State head football coach. Mike Gundy told reporters that he'd like his team to start resuming normal operations by may first. He said his players are young and healthy and that they should be able to fight off the virus not surprisingly Oklahoma state followed that teleconference with statements saying that the university would decide when to return not good move. O- reasserting the primacy of university over the university's football program. Yeah noted epidemiologist. Mike Gundy should shut up. Okay first of all. He doesn't know what he's talking about. Second of all he is a five million dollar government employees and the government of Oklahoma says. No so that's the end of the NFL draft will be virtual Charlie. But that doesn't mean we'll have to do without seeing commissioner. Roger Goodell greet the newest members of his league. Ea Sports is apparently working up. You'll interactions between goodell and likely first round draftees players are given the choice of how they'd like to interact. Bear Hug and jumping shoulder. Bump are among the options. I don't know. Is this enough to make you? WanNa tune into the draft. That might be actually. I'll be interested to like develop the percentages on who goes for the hug and who goes for the jumping chest bumper. Whatever and you know as far as I know. Roger Goodell has been a virtual commissioner for years. Nba FANS have not been entirely deprived of watching their favorites at work as the NBA. Two K. players tournament winds. Its Way to a conclusion this weekend. Sadly those hoping to bet on the tournament for entertainment purposes only of course we're stymied with the results of the first round were leaked and betting had to be suspended and this is why we can't have nice things. I don't understand why they didn't do this. Live right. Which would have sold this whole problem. Of course the results leaked. You're talking about gamblers. You're talking about people who live their lives looking for an edge although I think it's really rather pathetic if you're a big gambling score is past posting on a video game. Meanwhile Nascar driver Bubba Wallace discovered this week. That virtual racing can have actual consequences when he lost a sponsor for rage. Quitting last Sunday's I raising pro invitational blue EMU executive VP. Ben Blessing said the company severed ties with BUBBA. Because quote you find out the YOU AREN'T SPONSORING NASCAR DRIVER. You are sponsoring someone like my thirteen year old son who broke his controller playing some game where he builds houses yeah. I. I don't go to auto racing because you know people go to auto racing only one only WanNa see control his crash and finally Charlie. There's been one positive to putting the sports calendar on hold Alabama football coach. Nick Sabin and notorious Technophobia obe has finally entered the Nineteen Ninety S. Now I can actually get an email now and read. What somebody I mean. It's like I really come a long way. I have no idea how anybody gets along without email. That that to me is astonishing. Much less a guy who's probably got God knows how much technically Whitman is office. I mean he's he's still calling. You Know Mabel the operator to place a call to recruits. He might just be Charlie. Pierce is the guest editor of the best American sports writing two thousand nineteen any joins US each week at this time on only game. Thanks Charlie thank you Karen. If you're like me you're missing baseball. Not so much baseball on TV. All admit I've never been a huge fan of that. But I love going to the ballpark. I love sitting in the two small seats. At Fenway. Josh. Kanter loves it there too and since two thousand three. He's had his own special seat. At the keys of Fenway Park's organ during the Games Josh takes requests via twitter from fans in the stadium and it becomes sort of a game. A game to listen to whether Josh will be able to make those requests happen this spring. Josh has been missing baseball so along with his wife Mary Eaton. He decided to do something about it. I talked to him earlier this week. My old friend. Jason Whom I've known for almost thirty years. He texted me on the afternoon. Of what would have been the opening day of the baseball season? And he said you should do a livestream and play some songs today and I thought that sounds like fun I was like. How do you do livestream? He said I don't know to look on Google so I watched a video of little four minute tutorial and then my wife. Mary helped me set it up to our young. We didn't really know what we were doing. As far as how to get good sound how to get good picture how to talk. I'm here and just thought anybody wanted to say hello. Say Hello. I'll play a song. Maybe play like taking. After the volume is low southern stretch. We thought it was going to be a one time thing. It would last a few minutes a couple people might show up. I can't tell if anybody is hearing now zero way on it'd be Islam depot holy for holies. Waylon one more minute and then also saw with Really suber interesting banter and it turned out that a ton of people showed up and we got almost one hundred song requests and I've had time to get about forty of them and after over an hour we decided. Okay we have to be done now and this is an old song all be and then we'll sign up soon as we finished. We both realized how much we enjoyed that. And how much we needed it and so we committed to doing it for a half hour every afternoon. Three o'clock eastern time. It's time for the seventh inning stretch. That's the name of the show and part of it is every day and we do a stretch. We sing taking out to the ball game. You have earned this stretch. Have a moment of joy in your day will just feels lovely to have that community and kindness and that respite and you know just a little bit of joy and we're not burying our heads in the sand but it's a an activity and exercise that Re fortifies us. So that we can. Face those stresses on those challenges How was your day ever producer? Mary we haven't even really seen each other today. Because you've been busy. Reverend in the greatest job in the whole world producing this show. You mean my wife. Mary is a minister and she works primarily with the homeless population in Boston. So that's been particularly stressful right now. It's a community that is particularly vulnerable and hunger has become a big issue and so we decided right from the get-go that we would ask people who are enjoying the show and you have the means to make a donation to their local food bank and Kenzi says Donna. Use My local foodbank today in honor of alkaline and term city native. Thank you so much Kenzi and that reminds just been another warm way in which we're seeing people come together and help each other. These requests are coming in fast and furious. Mary's going to help you try to keep tracking them. It occurs to me that people also get to see something that they don't get to see from your perch in Fenway Park. Which is when you're playing in. Fenway Park we all send you requests and you figure them out while the baseball going on and you play them for us. But now we're seeing the requests. Come in real time and we're seeing you figure out how to play the songs in real time. I can't Miss Yeah it's a little bit of a A Peek behind the curtain. I guess you could say. Sometimes they'll do a little practice run of a song just a just a rough draft. You know ten fifteen seconds of it to make sure I remember it. Oh I really want to be able to do this. One concentrate josh who it never felt like a luxury until now but the ball games. I have maybe two minutes from the time the request comes in until I have to learn the song and play. It always felt like I was extremely pressed for time. Now I have no nine maybe ten seconds. Some people have have mentioned to me that they've enjoyed getting that a little behind the scenes peek at how it works because it is sort of strange how it works. It's strange and somehow magical. I gotTa say thank you. Do you find that you're missing baseball any less since you've started doing this. It's these sort of compensations to ends of the scale so on one end of the scale. I'm missing baseball so much and I'm missing playing music with friends so much and I'm missing seeing friends and missing being at the ballpark and then on the other end of the scale are the things that I'm doing to try to offset a bit such as doing this show every day such as interacting with people on the Internet such as making a point of checking in more frequently with family and friends to see how everybody's doing so I guess I'm still missing it a lot but I'm finding other ways to offset that a bit forward to this all day you meet both ball you and me. Both people have reached out to me and written me messages from all over the world talking about you know why it means something to them and I kind of feel like not so much therapists but I feel like people's bartender. You know. Sometimes people come up to the bar and they feel like they can open up to the bartender. What'S ON THEIR MIND? Annum says I got him. We be sorry about that. Can't help it. I think we're all feeling we'll leave you right now. And then all you have to throw in malady and the tears just flow. You know what I'm saying. I've been trying to respond as much as I can. And as best as I can offer encouragement and support that I am able to give. We all need each other right now and the more we commit to helping each other all get through it together. The better off. We're going to be less scarred. We're going to be when we get to the other side. Josh thanks so much I know you're busy. I really appreciate it. I'm always having to talk to wash your hands. Josh Kanter and his wife Mary Eaton Stream. The seventh inning stretch on facebook live at three PM Eastern every single day. If you tune in. Don't be surprised if you see me in the chat. I particularly enjoy requesting songs from old. Charlie Brown specials only a game is produced by Jonathan. Chang Martin Kessler and Gary Wallich. Our technical director is marquee. Neil our executive producer is me. 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Megan Rapinoe on Gender Discrimination, Athlete Activism, and LGBTQ Equality

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30:53 min | 9 months ago

Megan Rapinoe on Gender Discrimination, Athlete Activism, and LGBTQ Equality

"From the ACLU. This is at liberty. I'm Emerson Sykes Staff Attorney here at the ACLU and your host a quick note listeners. Today's episode was recorded on Friday March thirteenth. The interview is taking place outside of our office. Due to our mandatory work from home policy during the unfolding corona virus pandemic. We take seriously the safety of our staff and the guests on our podcast. Megan is a superstar soccer player. Who's become a global icon for her breathtaking play her purple pink hair and herbold activism? She's a World Cup champion Olympic gold medalist and Co captain of the. Us Women's national soccer team. She's also kneel during the National Anthem in Solidarity with Colin Kaepernick and others to protest police. Brutality and she's spoken out in favor of many other progressive causes now she and her. Us Women's national team teammates are demanding equal pay their male counterparts. And they've taken the issue to court. We'll discuss the latest with this important pay equity lawsuit the roots of Megan's activism. And what it's like to score a game. Winning goal in the World Cup final also disclaimer to listeners that lifelong soccer player and fan and this interview is a dream come true. I'll do my best to hold it together. Megan Reno thanks very much for joining us. Welcome to the PODCAST. Thank you for having me on. I'm excited to be here. I just want to check in. How are you holding up? I know it's a crazy time for all of us but I know athletes do a lot of traveling and a lot of interacting with big crowds. Just WanNa check in how you holding up. I'm holding up. Well it is indeed crazy times Actually a kristen on my team said it best. She's like I feel like we need to be taking lots of precautions but not panicking and there's a little bit of the opposite happenings on this trying to be a responsible citizen. All My appearances that been cancelled all of the social gatherings that have been cancelled. I'm just Kinda holing up in taking it day by day and trying to do what I can to stop the spread. Well yes and as we noted this is a remote connection for the podcast in order to lower the risk as much as we possibly can but I have to ask one of the things that's been proposed. Most Leagues have now suspended their play but one of the sort of intermediate proposals is playing behind closed. Doors have you ever played in front of like as a professional in the empty stadium. I don't think so. We used to do sort of like scrimmages against other national teams. They were literally called closed-door matches in a way act. But we haven't done those in a long time so I can't imagine that I've been seeing some of the pictures coming out of European soccer having that but that might have been a little bit of a naive approach because that's sort of the assumption that none of the players and none of the staff and none of this support staff around any of the teams would have infected than as we've seen with. I think it's a you. Vent is player has contracted the virus to Mba. Players contracted the virus. So it's probably best for all of us to sort of stay away from each other at this point so obviously it's been a big week in so many ways including in the sports world but it was also a big week for the lawsuit that you and your teammates filed. I want to go into the details of the lawsuit but first let's get a little background for those who may not be familiar with your suit against the US Soccer Federation. Can you just get US oriented? What were the origins of the lawsuit and the origins of the lawsuit relief for us as We feel like we've been discriminated against based on our gender so the compensation structures in the contracts that we've worked so hard to negotiate all of these years really were done under a a thick steel ceiling as I like to say the amount of money that we received for games or the revenues that we receive are just ask different from the men so that's sort of the origin of it all and we felt for a long time that we've been treated differently and been kept out of a lot of earnings that we feel like we deserve and so last year around this time. Actually we decided to file a gender discrimination lawsuit before that we had filed in EEOC complaint against the Federation the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Yes exactly in that sort of ran its course I feel like the administration changed by had something to do with the directives coming down from top but that had sort of run its course we just felt like this was the next step in strongest. Step that we take not only for ourselves. Obviously this is you know our case our unique setting but you know we feel a responsibility not only for ourselves in the next generation of soccer players coming but honestly for for girls and women all over the world. We're in a very unique position where we have. You know incredible Following online. You get a lot of media attention. We were obviously going into a World Cup last year. Where were going to have a lot of ice on us in? We just felt it was you know are greater duty as women and as people who have incredible platform in this in this country in the world to bring light to this issue. It's a powerful example for pay equity in so many industries but I'm wondering in the context of national team soccer in the United States. What are the numbers actually? Look like. What is what is the discrimination? Look like discrimination. Looks like when I play a similar game to a mammal to say a regular friendly and you know against say we both play the number two team in the world can't say the number one team because that would mean as playing ourselves say the number two team You know they would a in the end. We both win the game. They would make a drastically higher bonus than us. So you know the thing that the Federation says will you negotiated these terms and did so in good faith and so to go back on. It wouldn't be appropriate but we were never offered the same compensation structures men and so those agreements that were signed long ago are still binding. They are still binding. Yes I think our. Cba is up next year. Our COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT. And the men are in the middle of negotiating. There is at the moment. I believe you mentioned that. The lawsuit was filed in March of two thousand nineteen going into a World Cup women's World Cup last summer and of course the World Cup brought enormous attention to year lawsuit. Modest people have pointed to the fact that you were so dominant on the field and how much more powerful that made your case that you should be paid at least equal with the men given how much more success you've had than the men's national team but I'm curious how much of an impact has your dominance had on this pay equity argument. Does it only matter? Because you're so good I mean it certainly doesn't hurt obviously but honestly. I think the excellence of the team from the very first game that the team played decades ago until now is really the most powerful thing we've been incredibly successful team on the field. We have four Olympic gold medals. Four World Cups One last summer. And so I think it's sort of the culmination of the life's work of this team. That really is the most powerful thing in the office. You put it into a world championship. You put it into particularly these times right now. Not only this country but around the world and I think that it sort of became a lightning rod for a lot of different issues in people felt sort of uniquely connected to the team everything that we were doing on the field of course laying it all out there and trying very best on the field and you know having a lot of success in that but also our willingness and eagerness to take up these Mansell's off the field and US. You know the incredible popularity and privilege that we have as athletes in the country. We live in a country that very much glorifies athletes and for all that positively and fame and glory that we get. I think we choose to use that equally off the field in the best way that we can to push ourselves or to push the game forward and to be you know that inspiration for for women and men frankly all over the world well. There was a sort of confluence of the lawsuit and the World Cup over the summer. But then also this week you had a match but there was also an important court filing wherein a reply brief the US Soccer Federation argued. Essentially that men and women's soccer players are not performing comparable jobs that they say quote unquote indisputable science. That it takes more skill to be a player in the men's game. How did you first find out about these arguments being used by Yussef lawyers? And what was it like to read that type of description of women's soccer? I mean to be honest. You know maybe not in these plain words but the sentiment and the feeling has been felt for a long time which is probably one of the reasons that we've gotten ourselves to this point in. Filing Gender Discrimination Lawsuit. We felt the undertones of sexism and Misogyny we felt the undertones of not feeling as values or not even seeing the potential in the team in the same way that the potential of men's team on and off the field has been felt but I think I found out online. I'm sure just just like everyone else in the guy had Bread debrief yet and then obviously the sort of key quotes were pulled out and got on with our legal team in our PR team. It's just incredibly disappointing. What like I said we. You know sort of felt the the sentiments but to know that they would use that in plain language in public is just unbelievable like this is an organization that a federation that is charged with growing the game of soccer. And you know stewarded the game of soccer for all people in this country and to say that you believe that half of the people when it comes to soccer are just inherently less than the other half to use that argument. I mean that is just incredible in the necessity me. Like how are we then thinking about youth soccer? Are we thinking about investment in soccer? What do we think about the future? Both teams what are we thinking about the potential teams. It's so pervasive into every corner of soccer in this country bigger than just our national team. But you can see. Now how over the course of the life of our national team you know maybe how much has not been captured or You know maybe. The investment wasn't quite there because the belief that were inherently lesser. I mean it makes me so sad for girls around the country to to hear that industry see that I mean hopefully. They're listening to US more than they're listening to them in trying to set a better world forward in fight for a better future for them. But it's just astonishing. Someone would say that out loud. Well the public outcry was definitely significant and the USF boss Carlos Cordeiro. I was forced to apologize. I think even during your match this week and then he's just resigned in the last few hours. So do you see this as a sign of progress that your site is at least winning the public debate? I hope so I mean. I think that we've long been winning the public debate so I feel quite confident on that front but you know in the same sense. I'll say I have to admit it's an incredibly sad day for the whole soccer community to get to the point where you know. Someone's having to resign for making comments like this. I think that's incredibly sad in. It's a long lasting stain on the federation with that said. Hopefully this will be the wake-up call that everyone needs. I think we need a complete overhaul of your soccer. Obviously you know Carlos is the president. So he's GonNa take the hit for this in his head on the stake but also other people should have been reading that brief. Did the general counsel read the brief. Did the committee in charge a lawsuit read. The brief has the board. Read the brief. This is a legal strategy. This wasn't an offhand comment. Made to someone in an interview. This is the legal strategy that has been deployed in this lawsuit. So there's been a number of is on this in its really shocking and disheartening to know that you know a lot of people have had their eyes on this that never proved this strategy in this lawsuit against us. It's just it's really disappointing. I mean that was one of my first reaction has an attorney was like I don't know who's going to get blamed for this but there are a lot of people who saw this before it went out. Loud is is on that argument for sure. Well the area of law that I focus on his protest law and you and your teammates had a really creative protests this week where you came out during the she believes tournament. Wearing your warmup jerseys inside out so that you couldn't see the US soccer crest but notably you could see the four stars representing your world. Cup Wins but I'm curious about this form of very protests. How did you choose this? And why was it so important to do that? Type of display on the field before the game. I mean obviously just occupied out very quickly the motions and finally came out a day before a couple of days before we've been talking about it amongst the group people are really upset. Really upset to have set plane In gross language used against us like that but we also are professionals in. We're trying to do a job. We're preparing for you. Know One of the two biggest events of our lives in the Olympics and we have very important games coming up so as sort of this balance of trying to figure out like do we. Do we say something you know. We don't expect too much energy on this. We have to focus for the game so couple of us were talking just before the game and It was kind of floated. What if we just you know? Switch the jerseys. Inside out all lock clippers in protest of Donald Sterling. When all of his races comments came out just to you know it's never really in our nature. It's never really thought for us not to play. We love flying for our country and we love going out there. I think the strongest thing that we can always do is to perform on the field and to show that no matter what we're GonNa do our job and be excellent at it but this was just something that we felt like. We have to say something as a group and I think there's been a lot in the media. Obviously we'll be able to speak in the media. We can get our quotes out there anytime but a collective statement that no one is okay with this. I think was really powerful and it just so happened as we were kinda turning the shirts inside out in the locker room we all just kind of started to realize that basically the only thing that was visible was our accomplishment still shining through then that's a little bit using a little bit corny but I feel like sometimes those moments just come together and you know the higher powers are on our side in some sort of way and I felt like it was a really strong statement by the group as a collective which is what this has always been about Very powerful image and I. I think I've already seen online t shirts that look like inside out. Soccer Jerseys. The Internet's are undefeated always and they cannot look that quick. That was up. I think before the game. It's the net. I got one more question about the lawsuit but it Kinda relates. What I want to talk about next. Which is where your activism goes beyond just. The women's national team has as worthy causes. That is it's far from the only thing that you've been vocal about and I noted. Some of my colleagues also highlighted for me that the US some of the arguments they were using the misogynistic logic that they were using in their filings are linked to some of the bills that we're seeing across the country right now trying to police. Trans Kids and prohibit trans and intersex girls from competing in sports. Do you see some connection between these fights and there's something inherently flawed about. This men are just better at sports logic. Yeah I do. I think it's inherently flawed. I don't understand why we have to exactly compare everything when we understand that. There are some differences. And that's OK. Let's just celebrate the amazing product. That's on the field. I think right now in the country you know. Some people are feeling comfortable with uttering other people obviously with this trump administration. There's been a rise in hateful. Language Arise Cheat Crimes Arising Racist language homophobic language misogynistic language. And you know this sort of Maga- make America great again which really just means. Take us all the way back. And I think that you're seeing that pervasive in in a lot of areas of society one of the first overt political acts that I can remember you becoming famous for was taking a knee and again. This is not about the women's national team and it's not primarily a movement of white women. But you were compelled to act into show solidarity regarding police brutality. Can you tell us about your decision to kneel during the national anthem? I think it was the summer of two thousand sixteen We had just gone through just such a difficult difficult summer. So many Public murders caught on tape. I think there was five. You had the Dallas officers. Who were gunned down. You know it was in the news. Everywhere on just heartbreaking around the same time obviously Colin Kaepernick. Very courageously started speaking up in using. His voice started protesting. Watch a lot of news than watch a lot of sports as well and to have two things. I was very passionate about collide together. It just sort was a no brainer for me to be honest. I didn't deliberate over it for weeks and weeks and weeks. Actually didn't even barely talk to anyone about it. As soon as I saw he was doing it. Just made sense to me it. Just it just clicked like Oh yes of course And then immediately was like okay. Can I do anything? Obviously as an athlete I have games. I go through the national anthem. I just thought that you know similar to the Times as a gay female athlete or has female athletes. That I've asked people to stand with may be my ally. I thought it's the very least that I can do to stand with call in and try to bring. This conversation may be to a different subset of people or at least you know camp by the conversation the message that he was trying to get across with his kneeling. So just felt like. There's no reason for me not to do it And hopefully this will bring the conversation to more people. I think it was definitely a powerful show of solidarity to be taking a knee as well especially given the backlash that so many of those nfl and also NBA players have faced. We've heard this critique since at least the sixties probably before where people say you know athletes should just be athletes. We don't WanNa get into political debates. We should keep all these things separate and this year in the Olympics where you're expected to feature on the Women's national team the Olympics is banned athlete activism or signs of protests. How did you feel when you heard about this rule you planning to abide by it well? My wheels started turning. That's for sure. That's one way to get ethics to protest ban. They can't I mean it was so frustrating immediately. I went to put myself in that room where those decisions were made or that directive was going to be handed down into and just who was in that room. What are they doing? And I think we know with all the protests in with all the backlash that comes from all of these protests. I always think to myself. What if we put that energy toward what the people are saying? Maybe you don't like the form of the protests nobody's ever like any form protests whatsoever peaceful or otherwise so what if we put all of our energy towards what the message actually is. What the message of Colin Kaepernick. Wha what the message of Muhammad Ali what the message of Thomas met John Carlos all of these athletes have so courageously stuck their neck out. Imagine if we had people in the room who were trying to find the solution for these governing bodies I ac- maybe they should talk to the countries that are committing human rights abuses. That people are then protesting about. Maybe they should talk to them instead of talking about us. Who are protesting. What's clearly a harm to society? So it's very frustrating. But I don't think they're gonNA standing less protests because of it. That's for sure we'll be watching with interest assuming the games go forward but among all these other things that you've been vocal about you mentioned being a gay athlete you become a real queer icon. I mean you're a hero to so many kids including my five year old and at the same time you're unapologetically and very publicly queer you and your partner sue bird where the first openly gay couple to be featured on the cover of ESPN. The magazines body issue is breaking barriers for the Lgbtq community a priority for you and has it always been consciously a part of your efforts. It's very much a priority for me. Then I think you know since probably my early twenty s kind of right out of college anything in college. It was always extremely important for me to live my life very loud and very open and that doesn't always me waving the rainbow flag everywhere. But it's like I don't need to waive the rainbow flag because when I walk into the room. I'm very proud. Gay Woman Walking into that room so I feel like I have an incredible amount of privilege living the life that I do playing on the actual team having that sort of platform and you know I've just seen how much impact I've been able to have just by saying yes. I'm gay or just by standing up for people's rights are being vocal about it or being a public person. Who's out have people coming up to me all the time. Old Young male female everybody saying that I gave them the courage to tell the family or to live the way that they were born or to just accept themselves. A little more honestly. I feel like it's the very least that I can do. I am very lucky to live the life. I do too in a lot of ways. Be sheltered and shielded from a lot of ugly homophobia that still exist today and so if I can live out in proud and just be who I am. I think that that's the only way that I know how to live to live hard and to be very out proud about it. Definitely a powerful example and normalizing in such an important way children of all genders gender expressions. Were watching your team this summer and feeling so proud and in love with all of you and it was just really beautiful moment to see how accepting they are and it's almost sad to realize that that hasn't always been the case. Yeah it is and I think that that's probably the most important thing about coming out and about having people come out is that gay doesn't always have to be talked about in a heavy sense like all ahead come out. Oh this is my struggle store. Actually we're just living our lives. I'm just living my life. I am gay but I'm also a soccer player. Who wants to play in the World Cup and this is the way that I look and Ashland. Harris looks different end. Kelly O'hare looks different in Allie. Krieger looks different and tearing the Davidson. It's like all of these things. Just helped normalize then gay is just sort of a normal part of our society. It's not like Oh this person and they're gay. It's just like you already know that they're gay because it's just out it's accepted in its normal of course Meghan rookie. No kissed her girlfriend and after the game of course what else would she? Okay so I want to switch gears a little bit and talk about what goes through your head before you hit a free-kick so this week you hit a vicious bending kick over the wall of defenders and into the corner of the goal and it was a stunning strike that has since gone viral. I'm a lifelong soccer player. And Fan and take me inside your head as you're standing over the ball getting ready to kick. What are you thinking before you hit that free kick against Japan kind of immediately the calculations start to go? It's like where's the free kick on the field. How far out is it? How wide is it then? The loss starts to get set up in your seen how they're setting up whether goalkeeper is trying to pick what side you're GonNa go to you know kinda figuring out who's GonNa take. This one was a little bit are central so I was kind of talking to Samuel Smith. Teammate may be better if they leave a gap if you just smash it. She has the ability to rip the ball through the net. So again that might be the better option but sort of finally settled on camera to take it and then at that point is trusting all the practice in technique trying to kick the ball down obviously not skied in the stands. And just get enough on it to to get away from the goalkeeper so hard for the Goalkeeper Session. Essential like that. He can't really cheat right away. But if you're able to get the ball up and over. The Wall has a pretty pretty good chance to go in and Dod Celebrate that one right in front of the American outlaws was pretty special was far from your first big free kick goal. I mean you hit the penalty kick. That won the World Cup last summer. Calm but that was a lot of pressure. I mean you've talked about sort of looking at angles and setting it up and that makes a lot of sense but when you hit a ball like that. I kind of imagine that it's just sort of all silence and angels singing or something before the Bulls. Yeah pretty much. I have a calmness before I mean I really don't stress too much in those moments I feel like obviously they're big pressure moments but I always take myself to the logical end even leading up to the World Cup. We practiced penalties for months and months and months in. It's like the very worst thing that could happen is that I'm taking the last penalty in the game and it's an overtime and I miss and we lose the World Cup like that's the very worst thing that can happen so I was just like okay. That's the way it happened. So you know might as well just think about I think to. Its logical end. Have feel about it and then sort of move on. All you can do is step up there and tries to be confident. I always feel like the goalkeeper's more nervous than I am. You know I'm thirty. Four Third World Cup three World Cup finals bend in penalty shootouts. I've won them. I've lost them. I've made penalty miss penalties. So I can just get up there and Try to stay calm. Will you said you're thirty four. You've done a lot of places. How do you stay motivated? I mean I love the game to be honest. It's never difficult for me to go out. You know pull on the USA Jersey in play for my country. Training on my own is a little bit more difficult. Sometimes that can be You know in need of a little extra motivation But you know it's it's also like this is what I get to do for for my job and I'm very very lucky to be able to do that and have so much support around the Odyssey with my club. Team Tacoma Rain In Seattle in the national team Were put in a position where pretty much most most of what we have to focus on is on the field so I feel very lucky to be able to have that job. We know you have the Olympics to look forward to in your club season as you. Just mentioned corona virus not withstanding. What else are you excited about? What are you working on? What are you looking forward to? Oh Gosh a lot. Lot to be excited about I'm working on a book right now. That's going to be coming out next fall. Probably next November ourselves very excited to share that with the world. I'm very excited about this lawsuit in air. That will go if that's trial than will be prepared to go to trial. But I think even more than that just excited to see what the outcome is where we can then take it. You know not only as a team but also for those of us who are going to be older probably not going to many of the benefits of what could come from this lawsuit so taking on into our normalizing continuing to use our platform to talk about pay equity and talk about gender discrimination in the workplace. I think we're all very passionate about that and have spent you know essentially our whole careers with that kind of over our head looking forward to a little bit more downtime. Eventually maybe that's like next year. We've been quite busy for last eighteen months or so. I don't know about slowing down but Doing some some different things And then you have My company INC with Tobin Heath Kirsten pressing Meghan Klingenberg. That's rolling so that's also really just incredible. You know expressive creative more artsy way that we can express ourselves and talk about the world and try to break the status quo and Similar to what? We're doing on the National Team. It's similar to what I do personally but it's in this sort of different realm that allows us to be a little bit more creative tap into something a little bit different so looking forward to having that business grow and really just living life. I feel very very fortunate in Privileged to live the life that I do and just trying to continue to use the classroom number lucky to have to ultimately to make the world a better place when we look forward to rooting you on the field and checking out all of those fascinating projects you have off. The field. March is women's history month and last week we had Stacey Abrams on and we asked her the same question so for women's history month. Who is a woman you look to for guidance and inspiration so many chief stacy being one of them? How incredible incredible she awfully. She's on the ticket Ashir. But we'll say we can ask this question a lot of being women Who are considered inspiring. So for me. It's my mom You know I. I think as I've gotten older and started to understand what gender norms are women in the workplace in Patriarch Versus Matriarch. And all of that. My mom is just such a force in the world. I feel like she's kind of discount about her business. In a way that showed me strength to be who I am to stand up for what I believe in into always take care of others in sort of be that helping hand all while doing it so gracefully the way that she does she's always just been such a strong influence in my life and I'm so thankful to have grown up around strong women. We are all thankful to your mom so Meghan ripping. Oh thank you very much for taking the time to speak with us even on such a strange week we really couldn't be happier to have you on liberty. Thanks so much. Thank you so much for having me on your guys whose work is incredible. So thank you for everything you guys are doing. Thanks very much for listening. If you enjoy this conversation please be sure to subscribe. Debt liberty and you can see your archive of nearly ninety episodes. Please rate and review the show. We really appreciate the feedback till next week piece.

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Soccer Star Megan Rapinoe; Kentucky Felon Voting Rights

"I Robin Young thanking You for listening to the here now l.. PODCAST and inviting you to contribute to support it at donate tot NPR dot org slash now for all the reasons that you listen here now helps you make sense of the world and when you donate to your NPR station your supporting the journalism that brings context and perspective to the news and conversations with people making making a difference in the arts music and culture so please make a donation to your NPR station today and that investment will come right back to your ears just go to donate dot NPR dot org slash. Now we're building. NPR and its member stations. Thanks to you now. Let's get back to the news from NPR and WB. Oh you are. I'm Peter o'dowd I'm Tanya Moseley it's here now. It's been a historic day in Washington. The House Judiciary Committee has approved two articles of impeachment against the president trump. Mr Chairman there are twenty three is and seventeen knows. Articles agreed to resolution as amended is ordered reported favorably to the House. House Judiciary Chair share. JERROLD Nadler adjourned today's session. After that party line vote president trump reacted shortly after from the Oval Office. Here's how he characterized that vote. It's it's a scam. It's something that shouldn't be allowed. And it's a very bad thing for our country and your trivializing impeachment the two articles abuse of power obstruction of Congress. Now go to the full house where a vote is expected next Wednesday on whether to impeach President Donald Trump joining us now for Moore's NPR congressional correspondent. Claudia Chris Solace she's on Capitol Hill and Claudia. Today's vote was quick less than ten minutes after that marathon. Twelve hours hours of debate yesterday. What's the mood there right now? Well I imagine. There's a lot of jet fumes going off in Washington DC today because lawmakers were all expecting expecting especially on the judiciary panel to wrap up last night and take off early this morning but they were delayed As we mentioned chairman Jerry Nadler Learn decided to delay the vote to this morning and that really messed with travel plans for lawmakers. I imagine a lot of them have taken off now. I imagine a lot of staffers. Are there on the hill working on those next steps to copyright right yet. And what do you make of what we're hearing from the president today. Well well. This is not a surprise what we've heard from the president. He's been very frustrated by the house impeachment inquiry and he's looking for redemption in the Senate from the house process. He's rejected to participate in the formal house impeachment inquiry and we should note the started. September twenty fourth. It's lasted more than two months. An and he's opted instead to bash it on twitter or press interviews or through his White House statements or allies on Capitol Hill. However he in recent weeks along with other White House officials have ramped up their outreach with Senate Republicans to look at these next steps? The Senate trial would kick off in January Republicans have said they want a quick trial. What can we expect from that trial in terms of witnesses and duration after Wednesday? So we have heard from a lot of Senate Republicans who want to keep this trial very tight. Maybe two weeks or longer into the month of January if they you have to go that far one area of resistance however as president trump has made clear he wants a long list of witnesses. He wants a very robust defense and Senate Republicans have worried that if we do parade this list of live witnesses and the Senate chamber it could drag this out for several more weeks into the month month of February. So that's one point of tension. We could see that resolved of the holiday recess. And it's kind of a wait and see on what that could look like yeah you know. Today's vote is expected was along party lines. Is there anyone in the full House or Senate that May Cross party lines so so in the house we do expect the potential for some Democrats to defect and vote against the articles of impeachment. Already when we had an initial vote on the impeachment inquiry whether to move forward with it to Democrats voted against that measure in. We're expecting those to Democrats to vote against against impeachment once again these are two folks who are from more conservative and moderate districts. And it's possible we could see more but not enough to jeopardize these expectations at the articles will pass on the House floor now on the Republican side for The House House. We don't expect defections there but we can't rule them out on the Senate side it's a bit of a wait and see Senate. Republicans will largely stick together together on what is expected to be an acquittal in the Senate trial process however there are some moving targets Such as Senator Romney of Utah Senator Collins of Maine and Senator Murkowski of Alaska. Those are some of the wild cards in the Senate process. So so it's a bit of a wait and see on what they do. And of course we imagine. Democrats will be voting to convict the president in the Senate but they don't have control so that's why we're expecting this acquittal yet and you know this is a really big question but with the thirty seconds we have with you. What are the implications both parties if this remains a party line vote route well? Unlike previous impeachment with President Clinton Republicans have made the argument that the bar bipartisan. Vote when it comes to impeachment has been against the process so that could give them that argument point if you will for Democrats they we're going to stand by the vote. They've been saying their job is to uphold their oath to protect the constitution. So for many Democrats we don't Imagine Agean will endanger their seats but there some moderate some freshmen members for more conservative districts that they flipped from red to blue last year. That might might be a little worried about what this vote could do to their chances for re election next year that's NPR's congressional correspondent. Claudia Gra Saleh's thank you so much for joining us. Yes thank you. And let's see how people are reacting on social media to this showdown in the house. Judiciary Committee me. Okay is host of the Stream on Al Jazeera English English and she joins us now. Because it's Friday and that's what we do on Friday. Hey Femi- high that face so as we just heard from Tanya and cloudy the impeachment vote moves to the house There was this lengthy hearing yesterday and I know a lot of people myself included spent as much time watching it unfold on twitter as on. TV What did you see of of course and and now you can do that. And there's the live hearing there on your phone or on your laptop so you can do. You can tweet and you can comment at the same time as if we need to spend more time on social media. I felt like what we were. Seeing yesterday. Was Digging into the positions. It was almost like an informal man on the street or man on twitter poll on women on twitter poll about where the country force and need the country that's online and how they feel about president trump and impeachment no nuance there. Really Really at tool and people commenting about how long the hearing actually was. How long did he go on for? Jeremy Hobson who who you may know says I them. A housing fourteen point five hours of coverage. Yesterday was a little light taking that new Qantas flight to Australia. Except at the end of it. You haven't seen to summarize this and you're still in Washington. Yeah and yes exactly and you're also feeling a little hungover and jet-lagged as well as a lot but people didn't jump off social. They were still there they were sticking with it right through to the end one of the things that people on social media. We're talking a lot about. WAS THIS MR chairman. I moved to strike the last this word last word. The last word to strike the last word strike the last word I had to look it up. What did you see? It's an amendment in congressional hearings so you can debate an amendment for ten minutes ten minutes or five minutes four or five minutes against. But it's a very sneaky way of extending the debate. If you want to add a little extra something going you say strike the last word and then you can continue debating on twitter and online at she saying what does this mean in Auburn came came up with a beautiful description. She says it's when you're offering an amendment to an amendment under debate you get your own five minutes to speak. They never even have to submit a real amendment by saying this as a formality gives them an extra five minutes. I just like I need more time just a chance to talk all right. I mean people were telling you enter drinking game obviously of the S. No don't do that because every thirty seconds or five minutes. Drink another story that. We're watching the disgraced movie producer. Harvey Weinstein reached a tentative deal. This week twenty five million dollars with dozens of his sexual misconduct accusers. Now if the judge approves this deal and all the parties agree Weinstein would not have to admit to any wrongdoing or even pay out of his own pocket instead the insurance companies pay that are representing his former studio studio from what I can tell a lot of. His accusers are not pleased with this. How is social responded? Really disappointed in. Of course it needs to remind you that that a lot of the metoo movement came from social people sharing talking an expecting there to be just because so many people were actually said this happened to me. A to Lisa Dean for instance. When she realized that none of the money will come out of Winstons own pocket. She says I don't like this Barbara Mama. Not Enough me to Anna couple of commenters online when noticing that When Wednesday was going to court today or this excuse me this week? He was walking with a Walker and they were commenting on the way he looked and then compare it to the well bill cosby when he was also facing his accusers and there was some scepticism as to does he really need a walker. Is he acting as he playing party here. So no empathy for for him whatsoever. A lot of anger feeling he may well escaped justice. Just by spending all of this money. I'm paying the accuses without out saying I did anything I did anything wrong so that is a serious story that we're going to keep an eye on. Finally I wanna ask you about a google. It is out with its. It's top search trends for twenty thousand. This is kind of fun to listen to take a look. Here's a here's a song that topped the list. The people that's long we'll Nasdaq's old town road. What else was popular in? Twenty nine t to these are the top transfer what people search for the most in the year around the world so for news it was Hurricane Dorian for actors Jussie Jussie smollet right at the top there for babies. Well Cute Baby. Do you think might be at the top. Maybe Yoda and fashion styles. Camp style you and diets will the intermittent fasting diet. If you want to find out what was trained in the most in the world this year go to Google trends and they will tell you. Okay okay. Host of the Stream on Aljazeera. Thank you. You're welcome you've probably heard of the freedom rides when activists took buses from the north to the south to demonstrate against segregation on public transit. But what about the reverse freedom rides. It was one of the most inhuman in things that I have ever seen. Get the full story on. MPR is coats which podcast sports illustrated traded his named soccer superstar. Meghan REPEA- No. It's sports person of the year Renault accepted the award on Monday. But not before calling out the magazine which honored a woman just four times in sixty six years. Is it true that I am the fourth woman deserving of this award. I don't think so this summer Renault led the US women's national team to its fourth world. Cup title Fica named her the best female player in the world and off the field. She's gained celebrity for her activism. She and her teammates are suing. US Soccer for equal. Pay With the men. She's been criticized for her national the anthem protests and her refusal to meet with President trump at the White House. I spoke with Megan Rubino yesterday. And this is our conversation Meghan Regino. Thanks so much for joining us today. Welcome to here now. Of course thanks for having me I. I think he's probably fair to say that you had a pretty good twenty nineteen. It's it's been decent minutes probably up there in top five six years of my life really ask. You wasn't the best. Yeah I mean like by multiple of infinity affinity. It's the the the best in craziest and most wild year. So I would imagine and tell me if I'm wrong but I would imagine the World Cup. Victory is top on the list. No no not even close. I mean that's amazing. Obviously that was like. That's my job. And that was sort of the objective. We did the thing we were supposed to do. But we've been able to do since in the conversation we've started in the way that we've been able to transcend sport into talking about all these other things honestly that matter so much more more in the country right now is by far. The most rewarding part of all of that to that end sports illustrated recently honored for that work. Not only on the field but off the field told you accepted the award this week and had some tough words for the magazine on diversity. Tell me more about what you were trying to get out and if you think that discrimination against Women in sports is endemic industry. Oh it's I mean it's certainly endemic. It's something that we've been dealing with for basically basically the whole existence of women's sports I mean if you think about a publication like that like they're charged with intaking the news seeing the news seeing sports watching games. And whatever and then spitting back out whatever we feel like is the truth or the stories or whatever so if you only have X. amount of a small percentage of women writers small percentage of writers of color whenever then like what truth. Are you putting back into the world. What stories are Utah? Not that white. Men Can't also tell stories of of women in and and people of color but I don't believe you get the holistic story of of the truth of sports in America and abroad and I think there's no greater example of that that I'm only the fourth earth women to ever be on the cover sixty six years six years. I mean that's insane. I'm clearly not the only deserving one and I would argue actually I mean I think huge reason why I was even on the covers for all the stuff often. I'm a very good I. I don't know if I'm like one of the greatest of all time athletes sport was it always clear to you that you would be an athlete and an activist. I think so. Yeah I mean I've certainly matured and grown into this role where you know probably argue that maybe more of an activist than than an athlete. And that's certainly something that I bring with me everywhere but I think being in women's sports demands that you're an activist anyway so you're usually underpaid you're usually you know not shown as much on. TV There's a lack of investment A lot of the management and leadership of sports and of Stephen share all of it is is a lot of men so I think that innate of being a female athlete you're sort of skins game already and now it looks like you're thinking about getting into the twenty twenty race not as a candidate handed. It doesn't advocate. Oh absolutely you've said this week that you were all on board you want to be on the campaign bus. You want to be on paying their employees and really literally. That's assuming they're gonNa want me in there. But I feel like even just to like in a bipartisan way. Just get people vote get people more interested like you know in throw whatever weight behind it. I can't certainly want to. Are you ready to endorse no. I'm not ready to endorse candidates. Intrigue You I think a Warren hair ticket would be fire. Talk about you know two super smart sharp women who don't back down to anyone So that that's interesting you know Bernie is especially with younger people I mean. He's he's like on fire has been for a long time are part of the progressive wing of the democratic. Oh yeah absolutely I mean. I don't think I don't think this like walking of a moderate line really gets US anywhere. I think that we're that is trying to play. Play this game with trump of being electable. And you know not being to Pharma when it's like really I think we know that these radical policies could could change the world for the better so Kanako all in on that as you. Well know. Politics are ugly get involved with mud tends to fly some of your fans I know. Were not all that happy when you start kneeling for the national anthem starting in Solidarity with Colin Kaepernick in the NFL. Also people were not happy with the way you use an expletive to. So you weren't going to be going to the White House that's history. I do wonder why not open a dialogue with someone. You deeply disagree with like the president. Don't we need that right now. I absolutely think we do. And if I felt that there was any genuine bone or thread in his body not that would allow for that kind of conversation. Then I would absolutely have that conversation. I'm totally not opposed to talk into any trump supporters or people on the other aside whatever I've From a very conservative area and have many compensates conversations with my family. Just shout reading but but no I think that he would he would try to spin it. Use It for whatever political gain or whatever personal really actually whatever personal gain that he could and so. I'm not going to allow myself self to be duped. I think that we can have a national conversation without having it with trump's don't think he's really interested in having any conversation about how we can make this world a better place for all of us Meghan Star of soccer. I'm talking about the game. Yes yes Tokyo Olympics coming up this summer. Twenty twenty Qualifying tournament limit is in January. Yeah so are you ready. Are you ready. How do you feel? I'm not ready yet but I will be by the time it it comes around after today. Hey actually I'm kind of shutting down for the entire year and then it's really like a shift in focus from traveling and doing all of this which I I think is very important. Not only for myself in the game but obviously for the world large until that'll shift into you know folks now in preparation for the Olympics and We kind of have to do this all of the time obviously with the salad salary disparity that we have in sort of the lack of salary. We were always doing appearances an then ad campaigns and all kinds of marketing and media so we sort of know how to balance a lot of things at once. But certainly this has been crazier than it's ever been and I'm looking forward to settling back into my real job after such a dramatic World Cup win. Do you go into the Olympics. Assuming you qualify just assuming you're GonNa win the gold medal. Ah Yes in a in a in a way that I hope people don't take his arrogant or conceited or overconfident. We think we'RE WE'RE GONNA win every game whether it's like five five game in training or the World Cup final or whatever it is that's that's our mindset. We don't win every game. We're not successful every time. But that's always the expectation You know firsthand. We know it's very difficult to win in Olympics after coming off a World Cup here because of all the stuff that we talked about. Everyone's busy in doing things. And certainly this year was wilder than ever I'll probably force force my force myself on the team in this way but I think that's that's our public stance. We think we can win the Olympics. And that's our goal. And that's we're not going to say oh. We hope that we can put the best before now. We we want to win. Always look you told. Sports illustrated take one of your biggest fears. I cost phobia here Secondly that you worry that people will see you as a fraud Mhm How's that possible. I just never want to be seen as someone who's like leveraging he the and especially with the activism stuff never seen Roseanne activists than is an absolute activists than an athlete for sure. I mean I think you get out on the field and it's your sort out of laid bare and all of it is you're either. You're either keeping up where you're not so That's a little bit different but certainly in the active space and in the public space. Never WanNa be seen as a person the news leveraging all of these really important movements while understanding that as as a white female I have a different experience in it then Colin has or then other people have been calling Kapernick. So I'm here because of a lot of different people's work And I never wanted just like leverage that from my own personal gain and you have become. I'm such an icon to people to adults to children too young girls two young men and I think that's worth noting because we asked a twelve year old girl our producer Ashley's neighbor Her name is Natalie Alvarenga. She loves soccer. We thought. Well what would natalie ask. And she wants to know what characteristics are important to have a successful soccer career like yours. I think you really do have to enjoy it and sort of revel in it all like I get to play a game that I played since I was a kid. And do it for a living in people paying me for it I'll be not enough but eventually we'll change it hopefully by the time She's on the team. I think you have to have a grittiness in determination and then I think you have to be shifty in it especially as you you get older. I think there's a time every athlete's career where you either get old or you get better. I think you made a twelve year old soccer fans day very cute. Hi Meghan Meghan repeat. No thanks so much for your time appreciate it. Thank you for having me and I spoke with Megan in Boston at the Massachusetts Conference for women. We covered a lot of issues in the conversation conversation. Including how much longer she can play. She's thirty four years old and we have a video of her talking about her experience. Coming out as gay you can find find it at here and now dot org when it's too cold to go out or to ICI to make it out of the driveway. Where do you go to find? Just the right movie. Just the right uh-huh just the right show to binge pop culture happy hour from. NPR can help you keep warm and keep up at the same time. Join US twice a week on pop culture happy our today is the last day of the UN Climate Change Conference also known as Cop Twenty Five Madrid world leaders have been gathering to negotiate carbon carbon emissions and the Paris agreement which the United States will formally leave November of next year gratitude for criticized world leaders for their lack of urgency and leadership leadership and called upon the power of the people will. I'm telling you there is hope I have seen it but it does not come from the governments governments or corporations. It comes from the people we spoke with one of those people calling for action to fight climate change and activists from Ecuador or who traveled to Spain to share her communities fight to stop the government there from auctioning off land to oil companies. My name is Elena Galanga. I'm seventeen years years old and I'm from a small community that could earn Amazon called stoeckle. What got me into environmental activism was just living and growing growing up in the community? I think that is activists. That's a sign of resistance. I think that the indigenous children that are growing up in indigenous indigene communities. They are the most almost the most important activists because they are the ones that are going to take care and protect the forest and the Amazon Amazon. The threat semi community has been facing for as long as I can remember our oil companies Often in the Amazon that communities are not consulted consulted before The companies enter the territories. And that's exactly what happened with my community. The government supported the oil companies companies and together. They entered our territory along with military and my community has had to stand up against these powers in order to protect Sir for us so i. The man of the community used to run out to the forest to protect community from the military and Dan later it took to the courtrooms so we could fight it legally and we actually won a court case against quitting government in two thousand twelve a- and the International Court of Human Rights in Costa Rica. But even though we have that sentence that says that they cannot repeat that again our community has now again been concession to another oil company and I think there are some huge legal battles coming for my community. I think it's it's important that indigenous people have come here and that we are represented in spaces like this but at the same time really disappointed that we're still being invisible is even at events like this and also that the government's from from from example my country come here and have beautiful wonderful speeches and then there are these things happening like their concessionary territories to oil companies and mining companies. So there are a lot of mixed feelings about what's going on here. We're not sure if if there we're doing everything in our power to actually stop the climate crisis or if it's going to be enough love it it's about my home about my people. It's about my family. I grew up in this indigenous community. And we have this really close relationship nations shipped nature and we live by nature and we live with nature. And that's something that is very important to us and I know that this is what I have to do. Give a voice to the people that have been silenced. And the people that don't have a voice that seventeen-year-old Halina Glinka Gotcha talking to us from Spain at the UN climate change conference in Madrid. French union leaders say they're prepared to strike through Christmas. If President Emmanuel Macron does not back back down on plans to make people work two years longer before retiring with a full pension. The plan has sparked the country's biggest strike in decades for more we're joined now by. NPR correspondent Eleanor Beardsley and Paris and Eleanor. Protesters flooded the streets yesterday. What's it like there today? Well today we are continuing in the ninth day of a general strike and most of the transport is shut down. So there's no metro were very little metro service and very few buses. The streets are just is packed with People on Bikes and scooters and all kinds of rolling wheels. They never used before people are just trying to get around. There's no protests today but everything. The thing is sort of paralyzed. You can't get anywhere and it takes hours help us understand the change that sparked these protests so Francis. Prime Minister said the age for receiving a full pension will arise from sixty two to sixty four and twenty twenty seven but they're also moving the country to a single pension plan instead of the dozens that exist right now. What are people so so angry about? Well I think first of all macro has done some overhauling of the economy and the labor market in France and people have been have not liked it. This is sorta like the last straw so just to give you an example you know. The government talks about the deficit. I was out at a protest the other day and one of the placards that was up said real revolt fake deficit because a lot of the people out feel like this is just more blah blah to make the working classes pay for everything and the rich are getting away with it it and they sing these great chance and a lot of it is just generally about macron. Listen to this. I got them after the protest march some people to sing the song on their own own. Then MMC mad cone of a border. Now they'd say we're here even if macaroni doesn't want us for the honor of workers but that's sort of you know it sets the tone. That's what it's all about and I spoke with Philippe logoff there. And here's what he said. These deities left homes Komo news doctor but it could we city limit McCoy's running France like a startup for him. Only the brilliant and the best count the managers the dynamic people the rich. You said the rest of us don't matter a lot of this. Retirement revolt is about more than just the retirement. Plan Dan. Yeah the unions have really risen up They say the government has crossed what they call the red line with these proposals. What are they calling going for? It depends on the Union There is a moderate union that has been sort of working with the government and they want them the government to drop that that age the government does want to raise it to sixty four and then there's the hardline union. CGT that just wants the whole thing to go. I spoke with an analyst. He's a deputy editor of Xpress magazine Crystal Machiavellian and he says that Mackerel needs a social ally but the problem Tanya is macro doesn't have any social allies says Miami all you know he's he's coming across his authoritative king. There's pictures of mcelwain a crown at a lot of these protests. He's got to get rid of that image he's gotTa found allies. He's gotTa make this look like you. You know the retirees that the unions are reforming the system. 'CAUSE THEY WANNA save it Let's broaden this out just a little bit on Some of the reasons macron Iran says that this is important this is necessary Francis pension spending as a percentage of GDP is among the highest in the world at fourteen percent has macron's Crohn's government made the case that these changes are necessary for budgetary reasons. And how is that argument going over well. The prime minister spoke the other day. Eh and the Prime Minister laid it out. He said you know we have one point. Seven workers for each retiree now at the end of World War Two when the system was set up we had four more than almost five. And actually what's what's at the heart of this is there are forty two systems now and many of them have a surplus of all the the lawyers one in the liberal professions. But there's one that's in real debt and that's the train drivers and then like fourteen billion euros debt and we're waiting for the so. The train unions had this great deal in nineteen forty-five when it was set up. They had a hardship job. But now it's just not the case anymore not the same thing and so. The whole system is not indebted just parts of it and the government wants to make one and to get rid of this and the prime minister did announce we will get rid of the special regime of the train and metro drivers he said that that's. NPR's Eleanor Beardsley and Paris. Thank you so much for this update. Eleanor you're welcome. Tanya in the United Kingdom Prime Minister Boris. Johnson woke up this morning with a trip to Buckingham Palace on his agenda after his Conservative Party. Won a resounding victory in yesterday's election. Johnson formally asked the Queen for permission permission to form a new government. The prime minister will have the largest Conservative Party majority in parliament and more than thirty years. And he said today that the majority gives him a mandate to do what he's been promising to take the United Kingdom out of the European Union. Get Five thirty January. The BBC political correspondent Rob Watson joins us now and rob the polls showed us that Boris Johnson was likely To win but not by this big of a margin right what happened when while sponsored the margin of error in the polls suggested that there would be a conservative majority of maybe around thirty but they also said because the margin of Eric could be no majority at all or a much larger one so obviously things went that way and if you were to ask me then well why did that what happened. Two reasons really One is Brexit The other one is called. But what do I mean by Brexit Not that there was some fabulous and intelligence and interesting and serious frank debates about it during the referee Jerry Lee election. But rather this that if you think about Britain these days it's like two two cakes one cake represents leave voters the other one represents remain votes is from the referendum and basically what happened. Is that the cake of voters. Mister Johnson managed to eat just about all the slices they remain warm was divided amongst all of the parties and then the second factor that helped him was was Jeremy. Corbyn I mean. He is the most unpopular leader in an opposition party in this country since that source of polling was first done in nineteen seventy seven row so with this majority in parliament. What kind of clarity does this bring Brexit brexit? So I think what it means is that Britain will definitely be leaving the European Union at the end of January. No doubt about that so that in a way as a very big nick and one of the most significant developments from last night's historic results. Does it mean though that we know what Britain's future relationship with the European Union will be. It's it's diplomatic diplomatic relationship. It's trading relationship at security relationship. Absolutely north I mean that was one of the extraordinary things about this election. They an underwhelming the well-meaning uneventful frankly rather tedious and trivial action. As left all of that stuff the really big thing about Britain's place in the world and its relationship for the with the European -pinion all to play for me. Mr Johnson did say ahead of the election at that he would rather prefer a more distant relationship with the Nazi following its rules and regulations relations. But I guess we'll say well now there's not a lot of time to work out a trade deal which could be just as ugly as some of the fighting. We saw over brexit in the first place. Absolutely Lebron I think here is the hope of the Johnson Administration and I think it is the big question one of the big questions in British politics. There are so many is this once once. Britain leaves the European Union at the end of January. Even if the more difficult still to do the trade stuff really really difficult I think Mr Johnson others hoping that also take the sting out of it right no longer in the yeah. There's all sorts of complicated stuff but that will go in the financial pages of the newspapers rather than on the front impeach. Now whether it sends out that way. I don't know it's going to be immensely serious Businesses in this country are going to be lobbying hard. I mean an awful lot is at stake but that at least is the hope. Well Jeremy Corbyn. The leader of the Labour Party says he will not lead his party in the an another general election. We'll see what his future is. But for people who wanted wanted to remain in the European Union Did this election for take the breath away. Yes and I think I think there are three really important things that happened at the selection number one as we just discussed Britain will definitely be leaving the EU. The second was the decimation if you like of Britain's main opposition parties mainly the Labor party but also Another party called the Liberal Democrats. And the and what I would guess would described as the sort of this may disarray and disheartening of those. Who really would have much preferred if Britain had stayed in the European Union? I'm not saying that those people are going to go away completely. I think one of the many problems that Mister Johnson will face is that that this is still a country profoundly polarized and lots of people are really my goodness they worked up about this. I mean this people's emotions but I think in terms of the the state of the actual opposition parties and organized remain. If I put it that way I mean they're in disarray. Certainly a new chapter a yet again in British politics BBC political correspondent Rob Watson in London. Thanks as always. Thank you Her Kentucky's new governor has given voting rights back to more than one hundred and forty thousand. Felons it's governor Andy. Bashir Democrat signed the executive order yesterday just days after he was inaugurated. Kentucky was one of only two states in the nation with a total total ban on felons voting. Now Only Iowa has a blanket lifetime ban governor and former Kentucky Attorney General. Andy Bashir joins us now and governor. You wasted it no time signing this order. Well I wasted no time doing this on my third day in office but those that have been disenfranchised have had to wait the far far too long it was important to me at the at the start of my administration Day three to make sure that one hundred forty thousand Kentuckians it's That committed nonviolent offenses that have fully served their time. Get that bed rock Right back To vote here in Kentucky. I think it's critically important not just for democracy but but also in understanding that people can make mistakes Yet they can rebuild their lives and they ought to have the dignity of voting once they do something interesting. Your Father Former Kentucky Governor Steve Bashir signed a similar order in Twenty fifteen his successor and your predecessor Governor Matt Bevin revoked. That order. So I WANNA ask you. Why are you going through this? As an executive order for instance it means really that this could happen again with someone else in charge. Well in Kentucky the change. That's necessary here about automatic restoration of voting rights would require a constitutional amendment and I fully support that constitutional amendment but that would take several years to get on the ballot and to go into to effect and by using executive order. It means the hundred and forty thousand Kentuckians. The got their voting rights restored yesterday. Don't have to wait those extra couple years but I'm going to be working Throughout my term to make sure that we can get that amendment passed so we can make this automatic and so people in the future. Don't have have to be worried about whether the next governor will continue this type of executive order I can tell you that as as long as I served disorders going to be an effect and we're going to restore are these rights. Let's talk a little bit about lessons. Learned from other places. After Florida gave felons they're voting rights back. The state legislature passed a bill requiring them to pay back court fees and fines and restitution before getting the right to vote and some actually call that essentially a poll tax are GonNa be any provisions in place in Kentucky to make sure you're this process goes over smoothly especially with the twenty twenty election so close. It's critically important that we not only provide these Rights writes back but that we also do it in a stream lined way that doesn't put extra burdens on the individual we specifically exclude any fees costs restitution the fact that someone owes money will not keep them from getting their voting rights. Back because those have less money Shouldn't have their voices squall. Stir or or not be able to vote simply because of that. We're also working on a streamline process where those that have had their rights restored. Don't have to fill out any paperwork. And we're working to provide information directly to our Clark's all across Kentucky because people have also moved and we might not have current addresses so our goal is to streamline this process to where someone now who has this right back in the near future can walk into any clerk's office across Kentucky and get registered to vote no forms no hassle. This is their right. And as long as they go to register they ought to be able to vote. Kentucky also has the third highest voter disenfranchisement rate and the country country and nearly one in ten Kentucky Inns and nearly one in four African Americans are not allowed to vote. What else are you hoping to accomplish to change that? Well that was one of the compelling reasons and why we signed this executive order and restore these these rights so quick like It is an injustice it. That is a a racial injustice and this executive order helps get us on track to writing a lot of wrongs We also have to make voting easier easier in Kentucky. It's not just enough that more people can vote. We want everybody out there. Who has the right to vote actually vote and so we're going to be looking at legislation flation We're going to be looking at other. Means to where we make voting in Kentucky so much easier before I let you go. I want to ask you about the decision by your predecessor. Successor Governor Bevin to pardon more than four hundred people on the way out of office. Some of those were convicted of violent offenses including sexual assault and state. Attorneys have said that that move was really startling and disturbing and that it put Kentucky Communities Endanger. What's your response to those pardons? I've tried to be a a very careful since I've come into office of of criticizing my predecessor. Because I believe Kentucky is ready to move on and move forward forward but one of those cases that was pardoned we we prosecuted out of the attorney. General's office It was an awful case Where where a young man in high school was Attacked out was violated. It was filmed. It was sent out to different people at his school school. It's one of the the the worst crimes that we have seen. And in fact one of the case workers on it Even had to get some help. herself after after working with that traumatized individual I fully disagree with that. Pardon I I. It's it is a shame mm-hmm and it's wrong. That's Kentucky's new governor. Andy Bashir Governor. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you forever and here now is a production of N._p._R. IN W._B. You are in association with the B._B._C.. World Service. I'm Tanya Moseley Dowd. It's here and now.

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Oh I said one day you're not going to go down the hill once and then decide. That's what I thought you bet goes eight once. I don't know if I can get on the ski lift that it is the scariest part I listen. I need to try to look. I eighty three. I've been raised in fear and I'm tired of living like that a- and if I come back with two broken legs and that's the price I pay. Yeah became on my comeback with two broken legs. Every time every time I check them out to dinner go back to my place after. 'cause you swing him around you take him by the legs swinging around the room until they land and then you hurl them and our they bouncing on your Dick Wchs and this is more than one person you do this with at the same time. Well I don't kiss and tell but yeah it is it. Sounds like you do until What are you GONNA do? Are you gonNA go into Texas. No I'm going to colonial Williamsburg shock because really everyone needs to put it out of their hearts and their minds. Anybody remember that you're really need to take a camera crew. I really wanted to take a full film. Crews have a camera crew with instagram. You're right you your instagram to come with dialogue the whole thing. I don't know how to do that. Data entry or you just get dialogue. Yes yeah I know you can do a whole like crime transcription or whatever. Oh case in case I saw Vinnie. I drive away bring us an ever I would love to solve a small mall time crime in colonial Williamsburg. While I'm there Jessica Fletcher Style. I I wanted to involve a crooked reenactor. This is absolutely something you can do if anyone is to look hard probably not. But I'm I'm GonNa let me put it this way. My eyes and ears are open to cry to to colonial crimes. Look for the person with the deepest pockets. They're the one stealing absolutely. I'm not I'm putting up with zero. Did you see Ziegler Golden Globe. Nominations of push. Don't I here's the thing I know women nominated for best director not one I mean. Here's the thing Hollywood. Everyone's like Hollywood's getting better. It's not everyone's classic Hollywood we're talking about is like literally people into this is what people in La do. Isn't the homeless problem problem. Awful it absolutely is and then they step over homeless person that at least I mean. Obviously that's disgusting but at least like it didn't take until this year for like apple and Google to be like. Oh we should throw a couple of billion dollars at the housing crisis in California. It's like yeah so now. Apparently they're going to yeah. Well Guess. Which company is donating a lot of the banded together Scherbak facebook Seattle but facebook? I know that instagram is still facebook. Facebook I understand your rights. But here's the thing and well not but I facebook as a platform. Yeah like Instagram is one thing and I actually luder later in the month. I'll talk about an instagram thing. But for me as far as what we do. I think it's a really good source of information and it's not like overloading overloading. You a shit. I don't try to start arguments on it. No and I I I try to be honest on there. I don't try to do like weird pictures. Where you you see? My nonexistent thigh gap. FACEBOOK has a plan. You're missing out. I feel sorry for you. That's the name of your LLC right thigh gap yes us. It's grace we may write your checks nine. One one side Gap Inc.. Yes and then I go and cash that check and spend it all at the gap. Okay okay step into the gap. Yup exactly facebook as a platform is truly like all the levels of help in one thing thing. Yeah it's awful even looking at it. It's like muffed sugar facebook. I deleted my facebook. I've never been happier. Isn't it wonderful. If you want a quick fix I just delete your facebook page truly well. Here's what I want to say about the Golden Globes babies or whatever it's like start a photo stream or whatever you want people to look at that yes S. at the babies aren't cute but not I agree with you though about Hollywood because I think what's happening is a lot of medium size assholes or being taken down and they should continue. Continue to be taken down but th there's really they're like six people who run this town so they need to go and until they go nothing changes which is why you know oh we. We saw a complete five men nominated for best director. Not One woman. It's no shock. It's a shock at the six people at the top. Aren't hiring women to direct their movies. It's no shock. This child is full of men. Straight white men who have failed the fuck up and they continue to be hired because people are scared to hire people people who are not them. Yeah 'cause they're like Oh what did they do a bad job. Guess what we won't because we're not sitting in a fucking office show running shows or directing shows watching fucking NBA Games. Those guys are doing. That's True Yeah Receipts Honey National Broadcaster Association at the NBA area. Watch are you. Didn't it make you sad to see those words and just be like. Oh nothing's have nothing's changed honestly I. I haven't seen any of the movies yet except the the only one. I've seen that got a bunch of nominations parasite which for me was the best movie maybe of the decade. I loved him more than I did. You see I watch so fucking good. I'm actually waiting from the screener. I think I'm going to get one. Probably I don't know I guess it depends on how much you have contributed to the film industry share. And if you pay your dues and if I mean all the Gill Guilds Dandelion pop I'll yeah I think I know the rap by heart now. Okay it really was. There's no miracle what happened was just this. The wind began to switch the House to pitch then. 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Because I don't know I'm going to give five male wigs away to sue Leicester's the high quality if you make your name your address and you and you have to swear that you'll post a picture of yourself in the way guys you got it and by the way. I'm not the groundlings. So they could be women or men who want this wake up to you but I just I I want to see how you how you you do it and then I'll send you the well. You is that exciting for anybody. Yeah whereas we've learned from people who want dirty grocery bags do will you do me a favor in this game of. We're wake's game. Yeah Your Your Wig Pyramid Scheme. Yeah your wig parliaments. No that doesn't work. Well you put it in Ziplock blog bags that have the little label on it and give them names. Yeah but I can't do any more work than that but I'll that's the limit people like there's like a little like yeah chef's kiss on it. Yeah Yeah Okay and I'm sure Bryan Bryan. They're all the Brian. Oh who gets Brian and you have to go on instagram. To find out is a non excited so I'll give away five weeks and I'll name them and I'll put them in a ziplock and send them to you. But then you you know what's going to want to put as caused us mail wigs. Yeah but then you have to use the WIG and snap a photo intact throwing shade and tag or whatever. That's the Ruini good Hashtag like wiggle up. No no yeah. I'd wake a day but it's all may that Wendy Williams tagline along time ago ago characters will will clump characters wig Klum is the caption. Geez see me yes. Hey characters glum and extra points extra points which means Oh. I don't know to Christmas dinner. I was about to say. Come out of your room or whatever into a situation saying nothing but have the way GonNa just see what I just WanNa video of the reaction. That's great that's fantastic. So those are the rules. How San Francisco Guys January eleventh? Tammy Sager come. See us. Cheryl wigs no wigs but there will be a lot of comedy at the Swedish American holidays. 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Dot C. and use code shade to get ten percent off your purchase. It's the end of the year Aaron and that means it's time for the lists to come out. WHO's time's person of the year? It was titus year. Felicity Huffman and Laurie lava congratulations ladies who was. ESPN's sport person of the year. This was very exciting. It was Megan Rapid. Now good for her. No she was as her she does. She was sports illustrated a sports illustrated sports person of the year. which is very exciting? Because she's a fucking bad ass and an inspiration peration and You may if you know the name but can't or whatever you might know what she does but it can remember her name she is the US Women's national soccer team Co.. Oh captain. She did help lead that that women's team to win the World Cup in in The World Cup in France. And she's now the fourth woman to be individually named sports illustrated's for person of the year in the sixty six year history of the title which is wild so for like the fucking golden gloves so this is the fourth time in sixty six years not to mention that she is out and proud and holds Her fellow athletes especially ones with her stature to that same standard to like kick ass. Take names be be who you are and be proud of you are I. She also has been very up front in talking about racism in and soccer and also recently she was when she was named says best woman player in the World Award by the way. That is such a weird title best best woman player in the world. It doesn't make any by FIFA by default so in this in her speech she slammed homophobia in called a rampant homophobia that that is totally pervasive in soccer or football England and she shouted out the countless female mel out. LGBTQ players who fight so hard every day to day. Just play the sport that they love. Be Do it despite the rampant homophobia that we have if we really really WANNA have meaningful change. What I think is most inspiring would be if everyone whereas outraged as she shouted out to a player's Raheem Sterling and Calico Kula Ballet? Calloway she said if all of us were outraged about racism and everything else they were which is right like she should? It'd be it is exciting when someone in sports excites me up fucking hard to Dale. There's no racism team and there's no sexism and team except right except that for most of them. What I'm saying? Is that if you're going to play a team sport. Yeah better support everybody else on your fuck is yeah. I mean the way that you should go play tennis. Because you're I mean don't be afraid you are. The smallest version of how a society should work which is like people helping people being the best people that combined the best apps. Yeah and Yeah Babe fucking Surf City on my butthole. Yeah the only guy like those come first. Yeah what I'm talking about. Hey are you happy to see me or are you Ma Mama soccer players love that and then you you you br breast speed right at that point. Hey Ms that a snowman I see or no you know. Yeah Yeah just. You're digging your ball all stuff into a sock. Hey is that a pair of high heels or you've just taller than I remember. And by that I mean standing on your your Dick it hit the floor. You need to see doctor you know. Yeah that's the TRIPOD. I can literally get behind. Yeah Detroit WanNa see my tripod three six. I've three six and they twirl around like remember those acolytes yet eighties. That had a little tingle hands or like a pinwheel. Yeah if you'd be yeah okay if you blow on it it spins. That's what you tell guys all the tires all the time. It's so gross. When guys trying to put like their tongue on you I always say no blow you want it? That's how it's fun. Don't don't even touch it. How like the wind gone with the wind? That's what you talk about your when you talk about. You're getting off when I here this. You always do it next to a willow tree so you can see if it's working idea. Yeah and and to see yeah exactly get inspiration. I'm the timing Earth Man Okay but not only did make rapid gets a sportsperson of the year. Another big thing so every year Miriam Webster release as our word of the year. So what was the word of the year which means it was like the most google. Google looked up blahdy Blah and also sort of a game changing word so this year the word was they which is wonderful and also seems a little late but like I guess for Miriam Webster. Maybe this is something. That's right on time for them so old though you know what I mean to longtime she goes she's very old dial she is so Miriam Webster announced it saying although our look ups are often driven by events in the news the dictionaries also primary resource for information about language itself and the shifting use of they has has been the subject of increasing study and commentary in recent years so of course what we the the reason why they has really really risen in the ranks in terms of searches and read really practically redefining. The word is being something that doesn't need to be. Plural can also be singular is by people will identify themselves as they are them as as a non binary We know this fall. Sam Smith did it and they they say they like to go by they them I but I what the most interesting about this is that they originally she was singular like way back in the day it is not a new phenomenon that we are now using age singular or plural. So I guess in thirteen seventy five. Okay yeah favorite year for over six hundred years ago Aaron. Do you remember that. Six hundred years ago six hundred fifty years ago. It just feels like yesterday. So you'll remember the medieval romantic poem William and the Werewolf. They always seduced you too. Yeah Yeah Yeah we'll know would where we'll suck dick is that how good asset. That's that's the romantic poem. The medieval romantic but they found traces of it in that of being used for really. Yes but they think that they was even use used singularly before that before it became before thirteen seventy five. I do ready Alz Clip Kacha Cock. Whatever old? English is I don't know I don't know how to do old English. How what are you saying being old? I don't know isn't it just the same. No well you know. There's an old English. Yes it's so fucked up that that's scary true so there are like gay knows yes. That's what I guess. What was yes? Yes is very confusing. But what was nice as you could someone a favor and you could just steamrolling because no matter what they said they'd say. Ah Yes that's so brilliant and everything got done back then. It was so brilliant. Exactly that's world moves so fast so there are also other commonly used examples of pronounced announced. Both singular uses use. The word you is now used interchangeably to refer to individuals and multiple people but was originally only plural. All this crazy we'll into what was singular. I don't know Yahya I don't know I don't know but the singular to singular the singular or use of you developed in the seventeenth century. And it replaced the word vow. So I guess before then it was. Now that's why you plural Dowa singular. It's it's like a phone update exactly exactly like an iphone update Aaron. So what's also interesting with you was replaced with Dow. Excuse me that was replaced with you. There was crazy societal. Upheaval people were. You can't do this. This is confusing. This is our word we're used to this. Just the way people fucking lost lose their shit when they have to say the same. This literally is tale as old as time. Is it shocking that we even consider vibe as people when you when you make one small change. That is very easy to disintegrate disintegrate. You just have to try a little bit. These are people who go through summer small fall winter spring all the season who survived fled people. There's literally cities that get flooded every year. They're like oh well time for the flood and then you put a new word in there. Like I can't handle that they can't handle. Yeah so by the way. If you have a problem saying today to describe a a single person you better be saying vow. You know what I mean you better. You better stick to the seventeenth century and fourteen. Excuse me yes seventeenth century and fourteenth century three rules and create also. Okay so there's some of the other words that that came up in Miriam Webster lists as like some of the top upwards. Camp was one of the most searched words this year because of the mets fashion gala. This year that the must camp and so I think people were googling it to find out what it mats which is why I think people didn't know what can't meant in that in that way like summer camps or like something darker kind of camp that existed in concentration camps is what I'm talking about guys and it's not a joke. It's a fact okay. WELL THAT'S A. That's a word that that now means many things camp and they is officially officially in the dictionary as and it's also in the Oxford Dictionary. As is a word that you can use to shove that your parents face the next time. They're like I don't know by to do what's right here. Guys also WanNa know some other top words yes quid. Pro Quo. Impeach does the those were rounded out the top ten when we were in Washington. DC Did you by chance go by the White House at night. I said did you. You see people outside with with protest signs and stuff said impeach that lit up at night. Yes they were out there. They're out there all day and night. Anyway so congratulations on another successful year. Everybody I really think that this country keeps getting better at least since twenty. Sixteen we keep getting better and better and better and the last three servants so inspirational. I really feel like we could do this forever. Absolutely also I feel like I ended that by. It sounded like I was wrapping up for the year. We're not guys we're here every week. Okay you sound happy as well as it stands Kentucky. We'll get to keep on with. Its thuggery boy. Yes I came up with that Ryan can thuggery can fucker you you know you made it better. I just said I didn't even I said Kentucky we'll keep on with this fucker you but you made it cutlery. Which I think is talking about someone who's obviously reading the dictionary your master of words? What when I heard they they change the definition of they are alternate to be correct or catch up with the Times? I've read every other word. Yeah I mean it must take you minutes. It took me like forty five minutes. You're an internet speed reader right. Yes yeah as I can read with my hands. My Toes Dan. My is the PAN's labyrinth guy. You have eyeballs Yup eyeballs on your hands. You always get hands is mixed up. No I know. Here's the backstory. Hit It fellas. I thought I brought my backup. Aaron in the SCALLIONS era the scallions. I have already you guys and you are. That are very and we're not good all off key. Yeah maybe make people cry. You're not good and you also make make people cry even when you're singing up tempo song it's really some of you refrain. Yeah I like the I like the disc discordance right. You know what thanks for coming to being take the show is find out on my because you wanna why million percent the show because we ever climbing seats yes. You have lifelock seats which I love. I could just go all the way we. We don't play on the ceiling. Either you just look at the ceiling but also that you all have. You're very layered people. You know you've got a lot to you. See a lot of depth on. Yeah I was going on and sometimes we let you into the core. Yes okay in two thousand seventeen x Kentucky Governor Matt Bevins' a nail facing puncture site up on a sidewalk. Human being sure just way. He's just waiting. Fuck this the plain sight to just damage or damage your entire day. He signed forced ultrasound bill into the books. This law would demand any women seeking abortion to have a doctor put an ultrasound one up her molly her. who her molly I like Ed? Ed never heard it. I guess Tommy Tommy Link says that Ger- Molly Yeah Okay and I guess it was some. There's a place in the valley called sweet cheeks. Have you heard of it like a waxing place. That's what they call it their. Wow I'm I'm using it raise so they put an ultrasound wand up your molly here heartbeat and part of all of this is this can informed consent bullshit. The religious right has cooked up to be like. Oh go you knew about your body. Let me tell you all about it. We're group of people who I think. Mary was virgin when she gave birth. Like I thanks. I don't know if you guys are actually biologically informed yourselves. You know what. Here's AH. I would like a true Bible Story. I WanNa see Mary and Joseph for the Coachella hippies that they were okay so far we don't. I know that that was true. I think just what your version I think that they will. Everyone's like you have to wait until marriage to have sex. And they were so in love they had do it and then covered ever did and then covered it up. Jesus was raised to be like a cool dude. Okay the source family but like not weird so far you started every sentence with I think link and then you've said it would be the Truth Bible. I think that'd be more fun story. Jesus I think Jesus did a lot of cool things and I think he he was crucified for it and I think I think we should talk about the the real story of him as a person who would go to like a you know writers in Mumford and sons served whatever. Yeah yeah he's like he's like a backup singer. Father John Misty Right. He's like dating Vanessa. Hudgens exactly but like a person of the earth like I love all beautiful creatures. Animals are sacred Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah do mescaline in the desert. Tt Yeah Okay. If anybody out out there has Twelve million dollars put together. Let me know I've got You already have a budget all the desert though we just shoot in Joshua Tree airbnb airbnb daughter. Yeah so the women seeking abortion can't object to the procedure which means it has forced upon her uncalled for anyone. But I can't imagine if you were going in there as someone who has been become pregnant as a result of sexual schwalb use or sexual trauma that that can't be that that's such as another level of fucking fuck opry they you have to go through traumatic invasion one of your body to have this procedure done bonus shit sweater on top of this shit vest of bill if you do reviews it is deemed unconstitutional a violation of the doctors right to free speech. That's what this loss. This this is. What the law says okay? Not Not only are they required to hear a heartbeat they must look at the image of the fetus and watch it until it moves which is in bill. It's in you know do so I don't know what that means you fart and then it's moves and then it's done sure sure it's not like it's it's look anybody who's having a late in the game. Abortion is doing it for health reason like or because there's been a ton of things put in front of them that they can't get it done exactly. It's not be anybody who finds out they're pregnant and cannot afford or what or Beta access to or they want it done. Nobody wants to have a fucking abortion late in the game. Not something people want to do. These are all tactics to scare women out of having abortion these are just it's evangelical right and Republicans misguided attempts to prove that they care about life by forcing women to undergo a necessary insulting medical procedures and when they truly don't care about the a homeless children in their state or the homeless people in their state or anybody a living under the poverty. Line they don't want to kick people off of welfare they don't give a fuck. There's nobody around around to help out. Once you have the baby race there is no there is there are no options and women fucking know that that's what they know. And that's why they're fucking scared so you forcing forcing her to have an abortion and go through all this shit to do it. That is quite honestly. It's body terror- terrorism. MM is what it is like. I would like to see Matt Bevins' with a fucking ultrasound wand up his asshole being forced to watch pose. I WANNA see how he he likes that equivalent. But I can't think of anything else who refers eat terrific and it's not your fucking body. I know man. Oh my God okay so this has been on the books and we'll continue to be on. The books thinks this Spring Court who this week refused to review a case against Kentucky backed by the the. Aclu it was it was the ACLU and the last abortion clinic in Kentucky called the M. W. Women's center. They sued the State of Kentucky. They went to the six. Ex- court of Appeals. The six court of Appeals heard the case and thought that sounds like an okay thing to do to women. Here's what the majority judge Majority statement was from judge. John K Bush sounds like a cool dude. He said this requires the disclosure of truthful non misleading and relevant and information about abortion and so does not violate a doctor's right to free speech under the First Amendment so basically you're saying that protects a doctor's free speech because it's it's mandating that they do something that's medically medically accurate. Okay here's the thing is it medically accurate to put ultrasound wand up your vagina and be like there's A. There's a baby growing in there. Yeah that's why the women are there in the first place. You fucking assholes. Shout out to judge Bernice Bouie Donald for writing in the descent she said. The state has co-opted physicians examining tables. They're probing instruments and their voices in order to espouse a political message without regard to the health of the patient or the judgment of the physician. And that's why I went to the Supreme Court and I don't know why they declined. Tear it they did not write about I. It's pretty standard. I guess for them not to give the reason. Maybe they want the states to fight the abortion battle but while they do that women will be forced to have children. They can't afford without any support as I mentioned as as I always mentioned. And if if ever so goddamn concerned about women having abortions with informed with information then I guess you to start teaching about abortions in middle school and I guess you should make a part of the sex Ed requirements so that it is not a maybe they. We'll have the information to deal with this stuff earlier on or maybe they'll in certain cases if you don't understand anything about birth control and you think you can't get pregnant the first time you have sex with her. A lot of people think you have information when you need it. Not after the fact if that's truly concerned then you need to start teaching children about abortion abortions and that's a that's a function of natural normal reproductive healthcare. That's it I don't everything they say I'm like this is. Here's eighteen reasons. Why what you're saying doesn't hold water and I know about holding water? 'cause I have a pool company you do yes only only above ground. How's it been going not good? It's wintertime I know you I told you I told you that was a bad idea. I did ice cream in the winter and and you said well no in Australia. It's warm right now but the problem is that you're not going. I know I open but I do mail order ice cream. Dial up to Australia but Deepak it and something's no actually put a heater heater inside. Oh because why. I don't want the ice cream to be like shocked when it gets to a new climate different elevations and all that you know. There's so many mountains in Australia. Yeah Oh yeah yeah. Yeah that's Mount Everest is. I don't know why people put all those layers on climate. Because it's not that it's not that cold 'cause they're embarrassed if they don't make it so they cover themselves up just in case they don't like go all the way to the top run. The top Dad may uncover and is it a sleeping bag. You just walk up the stairs in their stairs rising early General because it's a little and that's the other thing is sort of easy to do that sleeping bag. You know what I mean slippery so you kind of can push it's easier to come down the slide right down. They have they do that. Clear slide is that they got the idea on the bank. We have one on top of US Bank of monotype amount of thought. Yeah I just turned right into the matterhorn as far ars. I'm concerned it Kinda hard. Yeah I WANNA have a counseling tent at the at the bottom of Mount Everest just to erase race toxic masculinity. Sure I feel like it's a good place to find clients. Yeah fi find climate. Yeah I used to climb live in different climates so good. Why don't we doing? Why aren't we? Why don't we ever advertising submitted us but to advertisers Tasers USA? Oh the Supreme Court will be hearing in March a case of a In from Louisiana. It's a Louisiana trap law requiring abortion. Doctors have admitting privileges at emerge from sober hearing that in March so stay tuned coming in this spring right before. We're GONNA find out if women lose their right to an abortion by the way this is going to sound ten gentle but I'm going to pull it all together. The UN released a report said by twenty thirty. The world will have two point two billion more people in it. That's in ten years. Okay okay. That's Ah Shit kind of people and for an argument for anyone in your life. Who needs convincing that? Abortion is is important because it's not about respecting women anymore with these people you have. Oh asked in this. Do you ever want to be able to park your car again. Do you ever want to have a seat in your sporting arena. Ever again if the answer is yes you get real real involved in making sure that abortion is accessible and and safe that's right or yells no more dodgers tickets. There's you me too many Goddamn people right punks. You've told American. Thanks we got some. I Tunes Reviews Insurance Liability says. And that's right that's how I say insurance A love this I. It just has to cars to Moji cars and says I can't drive and listen to this podcast anymore because I am laughing so hard. I can't keep my eyes on the road. Exceptional and char's am seventeen. Twenty two says this podcast is fan. fendt fantastic. I love love. Love Brian and Erin I started listening. After obsessing over there shockers episodes with the Great Rana Glickman and I just need to say that Brian in an episode with the other guests other grades. Danielle and Casey from bitch which says said. 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July 21 - President Trump, Megan Rapinoe, Josh Holmes, Alex Seitz-Wald and Betsy Woodryff

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July 21 - President Trump, Megan Rapinoe, Josh Holmes, Alex Seitz-Wald and Betsy Woodryff

"Hello from Washington. I'm Chuck Todd with Special Edition. Meet the press this Sunday a collection of interviews from the Chuck Todd cast our weekly podcast featuring interviews with reporters and newsmakers first up my conversation with Meghan re piano captain of the U._S. Women's soccer team and the winner of the tournaments Golden Boot as the top scorer in the World Cup and Golden Ball as the overall best player. We sat down last week to talk about winning a tournament that the U._S. men's team has not come close to and of course about her off the field advocacy for equal pay so a longtime boxing reporter who's now a baseball announcer. Charlie Steiner said to me he ju- As a Modern Day Ali and here's what sports illustrated wrote there are elements of a Modern Day Ali Muhammad Ali the boxer in re Pino's Co Mingling of sports and social activism say nothing of her ability to turn the media's attention even when negative in certain circles to her advantage. What do you make the League comparisons? That's very flattering. I don't know if I'm if I'm Ali but I'm happy to be the biggest ally Kelly what what opportunity do you see here. Do you see it's like okay. We got the attention I am going to make these points. I'm GONNA make these. I am going to do this activists. I think the opportunity is in everyone's exhaustion of the fighting and the negative and our team has managed to make people proud again to capture people's interest to make them want to do something. I think people are asking the question. How can we rally around this team in that really what the team stands for whether it's equal pay or racial equality or l._G._B._T._Q.? Rights I think we've just managed to give people hope and with that now we need to do the next step which is to <hes> actually take the progress that let me go specifics with equal pay I I. I'm sort of surprised here that the corporate communities that support the U._S. Soccer Federation have been so slow to see this have been and sold a Filipino proctor and gamble came out today and they've they've given. I guess an additional bonus to every member of the team but I understand the way these deals are negotiated. Some of this is the U._S.. Soccer Federation but are you disappointed in the Corporate America's handle US your sponsors yeah I am. I think that we can do a lot more a lot more quickly. I think that it is a complicated issue and I think sometimes we get in the weeds about it the force for the trees when you know a big sponsors can just write the check. These are some of the most powerful corporations not just in sports but in the world and have so much weight that they can throw around and I think that they just need to get comfortable throwing around how much of this is you gotTa. Grow the game globally by the way because does it does seem as if it's the westernized nations who've supported women's sports I yes and that and that is perhaps made folks in the corporate community think Oh there's not enough people there to market. No I think that the global aspect is huge <hes> even just in the last three or four years to see the way that other federations have succeeded with their teams on the field. They've thrown money behind them and shocker those doing better. It's good that it was harder this time right. It is yeah no no no fence with the other teams but it was a little bit harder. That's good for the game exactly it's great for the game and I think it allows us to put so much more pressure on as well to mandate that these federations have the money to pay their programs to mandate that FICA and to push them really to do more. You were talking about the beginning that you see an opportunity here to to to preach a message of unity. I think the hardest conundrum that a lot of our in an American politics whether it's those of us the care about these institutions in this town or otherwise is that how do you preach a unity and at the same time you don't want to be in your president trump and I get that how do you do both <hes>. I'm figuring that out the day I think you inspire people out until trump supporter who loves loves watching him. I'm like I wish you'd go to the White House. Yeah I think that I would you know try to share our message. Do you believe that people are created equal to you believe that equal pay <hes> should be mandated. Do you believe that everyone should healthcare. Do you believe that we should treat everyone with respect. I think those are the basics of what we're talking about and I understand people feel upset or uncomfortable. There's I think some feelings of disrespect about the anthem protests test or things that I've said in the past but ultimately I think I am here open and honest. I've admitted mistakes I will continue to do that. I'll continue to be vulnerable and be honest and be open and want to have that conversation because I think trump's message excludes people all that look like me and that of course but it excludes a lot of people on his base as well and I think that he's trying to divide so he can conquer not unite so we can all conquer anything he could do to change your mind about a visit to the White House. There's like fifty policy issues that we can probably reverse them. Get going. I'm you knew would it would take a tremendous amount. I think I'm I understand that that progresses sometimes slow and I'll never close any door all the way but but I think it would take more than than trump is willing to do. What are you going to do next? You WanNa keep playing. You'RE GONNA get us one more World Cup and would you at all entertain professionalizing your social activism. Perhaps running for office or something else. <hes> I do continue to keep playing. I'm not sure I'm qualify for office. There's no qualifications for office yeah. He'll that's true up to forty four yes there. Was You know what I'm going to fight for equal pay every day for myself for my team and for every single person out there man woman immigrant U._S. citizen person of color whatever it may be equal pay as the Great Serena Williams said until I'm in my grave tell me what do you were about eleven or twelve. When Brandy chastain was that moment of guess what girl can go crazy and celebrate? What do you hope the twelve year old girl bunch of them are in the audience? Today thinks about twenty years from now in remembering you and what you gave to the sport. I hope the same thing I felt I think in that moment it was just an incredible explosion of joy. It was so bright old so off-the-cuff. It was just everything that you want from sports. You want just those moments that are totally indescribable. I hope they feel inspired that they can do that that they can take on more <hes> that they're worth every penny and more and that they have fun and with a smile doing well you have fun. You always have a smile on your face. That is it's been. It's been great menu. You have a lot of humility. I have to say that Pino luck to you. Thank you very much room for you. Get US another World Cup to AH always always right. There's five fingers exactly exactly all right when we come back my conversations with Alex Sites Walden Betsy Woodruff but the state of the twenty twenty campaign that's next on the special edition of meet the press welcome back to a special edition to meet the press. I'm Chuck Todd Time Now for my conversation with Betsy Woodrow reporter for the daily Beast and Alex Sites Wall political reporter right here N._B._C. News welcome so mark Murray had an interesting point this morning to me. We were discussing trying. Come up with lead on ice to admit it's sort of like there's a lot of interesting headlines but what's the big lead right each day and you and you say to yourself all of a sudden. Why are more candidates jumping in Tom? Star Joe Sestak Bill and all of a sudden mcmurray made a point Joe Biden got in and after Joe Biden has gotten in. We've gotten Michael Bennett. We've gotten Joe SESTAK. We've gotten <hes> Mr Starr. We've gotten also build the BLASI. What should we make of that and should we actually see this? Is something about Biden Woodruff. There was a lot of conversations I think before Biden Gaden among the more moderate cohort of the Democratic Party that he would be sort of this dominant figure within the democratic you know among the Democratic contenders and that there wouldn't be room for others moderates after another can't believe you forgot Steve Bulletin. I don't laugh bullock's guy by that. I think but for boot `age he's interesting that he's totally he's totally interesting. <hes> I think though the situation with Biden was especially within the donor community there was this view that there wouldn't be room for someone else to run in sort of the same space that he's inhabiting and he was viewed as more competitive and as a little more bulletproof than I think he's going to turn out to be obviously it's premature to make Jeb Bush comparisons but the parallels thus far are kind if striking you know Alex I had somebody from one of these campaigns. I won't say which one of one of these campaigns at bats in and I were just referencing of these of this the MoD squad here the handful of moderates that think there's an it's sort of like we know there's not a lot of room on the left and Humpty dumpty falls. We think we could pick up some pieces so that this really is a biden might not make it candidacy. I mean look say what you will about Hillary Clinton as a candidate but she cleared the field yield at this point July tenth in two thousand fifteen she was at sixty three percent. She was a lock essentially for the nomination. No one even bothered to challenge her. No one's afraid of Joe Biden that way all of these candidates clearly the ones who got before and especially the ones who got an after are not seeing gene that <hes> there's a generational issue. There's the the gaffe-prone of his nature and the big thing is he. The establishment is not united behind him. It's more like Hillary Clinton in two thousand eight where you had some establishment people behind Obama or Biden Leonard or <hes> Chris Dodd and so there's a big opening there and I think these people all see it. They know that Biden is not the most disciplined campaigner. They know that there's a lot in his past and <hes> you know you take a gamble but if you have a one percent chance of being the next president of states you might take that I think what other piece of its shoe is that there's a lot of concern particularly. If you look at the kind of candidates who've just entered that you among these moderates at the Party is moving too far to the left and they believe that just being on stage age and saying Medicare for all bad idea or it's okay that health insurance companies exist like a lot of these candidates see you pushing that message is inherently valuable and then a lot of donors it is inherently valuable to so when these kind of Red State Eight governors and folks that are similarly situated are thinking about putting together campaigns. They're they are finding support even though I think most of them are not you know under the impression. They're actually going to be president all right so biden. I have this theory that the next set of debates it's Alex is going to be if if if the behavior from tonight one tonight to is any indication it means the candidates are GonNa Copycat so a night the night to candidates in our debates saw that we were going to be I if they believe their way in we were going to let them into the conversation. So what did that turn into night to a lot. More of them. Bullied Kamala Harris got a big bump attacking Joe Biden Alex tells me we're GonNa find out in July. I mean this month at these debate. If Biden is as wobbly as he looked on the debate stage because I think the copycat nature of these candidates are going to be they're all GonNa Pylon. It's going to be a pilot Biden which by maybe expecting but it's going to be a good with with this will be the ultimate test and it's really the last chance for a lot of them before we had into the summer there. There's no debate in August and the threshold goes up dramatically doubles in September so are you smelling the whiff of desperation. Definitely you're still in the wake of desperation and desperate. Ask for people. Do you know desperate things <hes> so yeah. If I were Biden I would definitely be prepared for more that I think he could come back. He has historically been a really strong <hes> debater. He was good with Sarah Palin. When the tough situation he steamrolled Paul Ryan in the vice presidential but in two thousand twelve and he famously coined a noun verb nine eleven in two thousand eight his his campaign a bit feels like now a Noun Verb Barack Obama <hes> read I which I think did you start that somebody did and I've I've totally adopted it? I find it very I don't Ah Yeah I'll I'll be happy to take credit for it. Whether it's sure I'll take it I I I know but he the from one of us because we can says and I I started noticing this when he would go on T._v.. Last year round the cabinet confirmation hearings he was obviously going to we asked about Anita Hill and he just seemed totally flummoxed surprised by and every attack that's come as way it's the same thing these are very foreseeable and he just doesn't quite seem ready for it. That's a you know it strikes me as with Biden and his behavior it strikes me as somebody who's been in a student so life. I studied this forever. Trust me I know it guys and you're like yeah. You know. We teach math differently now or you know that yes the results the same but I've done it. Don't worry about it right isn't that is I think there's no question question like the way that the democratic base things about. Politics now is different than it was twenty or thirty years. I don't think Biden has fully consumed that I think there's I think without a doubt and the Anita Hill situation is a great microcosm of that where he didn't reach out to her privately to apologize before he publicly talked about it. That's the kind of thing that you know any reasonable. Political Advisor would think maybe you should give her a call right before you go public and it's an easy thing to do right. It's not difficult what she said publicly that she hadn't heard from that you'd be happy to chat and he didn't reach out to her until he until publicly talking about it. The way it was handled was very weird and especially in this political climate when topics about sort of how powerful full elected male officials deal with women <hes> are so are much more front of mind than perhaps they were earlier and Biden's career. It's just such a no-brainer and it's very weird that they didn't handle that better all right so of Humpty dumpty false and there's a bunch of pieces on the ground here unbinding and it it it is look. He's sort of the Party Status Person Right. He's the he's the the assumption that your rank and file Democrat is going for. I who's best position to pick up the pieces. We don't know I mean this is what is so fascinating about. This race is commonly Harris blew the race open on that debate stage by taking Biden down a notch and the polling afterwards has shown that the ten percent of support whatever that he lost went to all kinds of different when everybody everybody right so it's not <hes> we've been thinking in these ideological lanes but there are so many lanes that are layering on top of each other demographic generational. <hes> you know regional ideological just kind of your style. I'll so it's it's it's really hard to say but I think everybody benefits. If you take down the front runner a notch the question is what is the window looked like. What's how do you define moderate right betsy? Because what if there's a there's a scenario that fight and falls Kamala Harris becomes the establishment favorite. There's a scenario that even makes Elizabeth Warren establishment acceptable. Maybe not the favorite but she becomes quote especially. If it's about worrying about burn totally and I think the earliest indicator when it comes to how we gauge gauge where the pieces are going is where the donors go and in the case of Biden of course he's someone who donors from Wall Street the financial services industry healthcare industry feel much more comfortable with than folks like particularly Bernie Sanders but also to an extent Elizabeth Warren and the candidate WHO's best position to compete for those specific dollars for support from those specific industries. I would say no question as people to judge. I don't think there's somebody else who's going to be who's going to generate as much comfort and like optimism from that particular sector of democratic credit funding base as he is the the other Biden's biggest strength right now is he's seen is the most electable against trump and democrats are so scared right now. They just WANNA be trump their spooked so whoever can claim that Manson who can make a convincing case if Biden is not there they can grab some of that support. I think that's that'd be huge. I let's go to Bernie warn worn ahead right now because like an all metric she is. I think there's no doubt I mean it's on on anything you look at. She's she's establishment acceptable which is huge in a way that Bernie Sanders has never been never tried to maybe he has gone in with the same base and has not done mid any effort to try to expand that base at all. She's putting up better fundraising numbers. She's putting together a bigger coalition with a higher ceiling <hes> to potentially raise up and even in the Progressive Lane fine. I'm going to this progressive <hes> conference that roots nation. It's been going on for a decade. She is going to be there. Bernie Sanders is not because he got booed off the stage. In two thousand fifteen by black lives. Matter activists said he'll never go back again. So if you can't even Bernie Sanders is not even locking down the most Progressive Lane of the party. That's a tough space for him to be. It's the Bernie Path back here. He seems to be everybody's acknowledging. He's The godfather of this new progressive left and he thinks that should be enough to give the nomination. Look what I did. Dammit give it to me good to me I did it. I think I think what <hes> what you can't overstate. When talking about the Bernie dynamic is how many Democratic primary voters still are really angry about the way that he conducted himself during in two thousand sixteen campaign whether it's fair or not just anecdotally I've had so many conversations <hes> with with primary voters say just hate that guy yeah? I hate that guy that I was disrespectful. Were Fans and like Elizabeth Warren doesn't have that problem. She never did endorse. Bernie should never endorse anyone right. She's very very careful and there are burning people who have never forgiven her <hes> for that which speaks to part of the problem I think Bernie has had his he spent the last two years in a lot of his campaign and re-litigating two thousand sixteen and basically telling everyone I told you so you know yeah. At which is who wants that anymore. Okay right yeah told you so was eighteen yeah. That's your two thousand eighteen. Okay in two thousand seventeen. You need a message now for twenty twenty and he's Never GonNa win. The donors that that betsy is talking about but he can make himself not scary to them <hes> he I was yesterday talking to a kind of establishment person who said I like the candidate oh except for Bernie Sanders and maybe yeah that's that's a kind of insider thing but there are people who will work actively against Bernie Sanders in a party that he he was ever GonNa win them but he could have at least taken the edge off. I'm old enough to remember all these Republicans would never worked for or support on writer. You know it's amazing winning. If you actually win one of these positions it's amazing people's minds change. I would love to see what Bernie Sanders tack to the middle would look like just curious re pause here for second second. <hes> in conversation here betsy would daily Beast Alex Sites Walt right here at N._B._C. News in you're listening to the Chuck Todd cast where let me ask you this. Should there be an amy McGrath line that if you're in the presidential ration- you can't outrage Amy Mcgrath you oh you or mark Kelly amy McGrath being the newest candidate through <hes> launch candidacy for Senate and Kentucky Mitch McConnell Mark Kelly's Democratic Senate candidate in Arizona first of all he outraged a whole bunch of people in the second quarter that were running for President Alex a Av McGrath had a better twenty hours even Kamala Harris Yeah. He did a four point two million in the second quarter million. That's pretty much better than about half the field. I think he'll be probably a majority of the field. We'll see by the time the numbers come out <hes> but you know it speaks to in this world with a small dollar being king a compelling story. A compelling personality is going to trump everything whether you have the best chance of winning whether you're running for the highest office in the land or whether you're running owning for D._A.. <hes> we've seen people break out and these are two candidates who <hes> do have compelling stories. Kelly was an astronaut. He's of course Gabby giffords. Your husband has been a gun control activist and McGrath ran last year. You know fighter pilot so I think that's a lesson for the <hes> twenty twenty candidates that you can't just show up and expect people to support you need to grab hearts and minds and dollars online now. Betsy does McGrath know that this money better rourke work. I think conflated money came in against Ted Cruz support for himself as a potential national. I think we're finding out he's finding out which a lot of assumed would be that his success was more of who he was as much as he was running against. Yes he ran a good race. I don't want democratic does benefit from her. Opponent is financially no question and it it would not be particularly hard to have predicted that democratic small dollar donors are much more enthusiastic about beating Ted Cruz than they were about beating Elizabeth Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders and they'll feel this way about Mitch McConnell totally. That's the nature of the beast and is also really interesting because points to how incredibly galvanizing McConnell has been to democratic activists <hes> and the way that this guy with a very sort of low key he public persona talks kind of softly doesn't really do the whole facial expression thing how he's really come to sort of be almost the equivalent of what Pelosi has been for Republicans. Somebody who people are just really excited about drivers are now as when you look at our polling we sit there and there's not much difference now part of what's interesting the difference between McConnell's negatives and Pelosi's negatives Alex. You'll like this although this could change after her Maureen dowd interview McConnell also has conservative of critics. There's still a piece of the conservative that hate McConnell as much as some in the left hate McConnell. Pelosi's numbers are actually starting to look better than McConnell simply because she does not have the negative on her own side the way McConnell has negative on his own side right and by the way that also benefited better with crews there are people that just didn't like crews on the right the way he was famously <hes> one of the most hated senators according to his fellow Republican senators. I don't no if that really affects McConnell. Being leader is not particularly popular job. No matter who you are no matter what you do no matter what state you come from yeah but I does speak to you know the the roiling that is happening opening in both parties <hes> base right now. I'd be curious to see if Nancy Pelosi has mostly conducted herself well <hes> she's taken a lot of heat from the left but on the peach meant bruce up and she has continued to bash the left in this Nancy Pelosi Eh she's GonNa she's going to start to get some negatives on their big. Thanks to Betsy and Alex. We'll be back after a short break. You're listening to a special edition of meet the press welcome back to a special edition meet the press. I'm Chuck Todd Now for my conversation with Republican can strategist Josh homes. He's the former chief of staff and former campaign manager for Mitch McConnell. He's also the current chief political aid in many ways to Mitch McConnell. We started off by talking about what it's like working for McConnell and what it means that Democrat accredited McGrath is now challenging the Senate Majority Leader in two thousand twenty. How'd you end up not McConnell so that's interesting? I you know I bounced around was in the Senate. Once my first job incentives for Norm Coleman and Minneapolis Minnesota Republican Republican campaign came out with him after he won and he's the Walter Mondale race right he was the wellstone passes away Johnson. What a crazy another formative experience that was craziest thing I've ever experienced with candidate passing away thirteen days before an election is just tragic so anyway? I was in the Senate for a while it was I didn't like I couldn't figure out why everybody's spend all their time talking about stuff that was never going to happen. Couldn't I couldn't figure it out so I left. And bounced around and some campaigns found my way to go to work for Ken Melman who just got done running. The Bush campaign was R._N._C. Chairman Yeah in two thousand five and that was the team that I became a part of and that was another sort of formative moment for me I kind of crafted out when I wanted to do <hes> you know within the world politics and he's the one introduced me to McConnell so McConnell adjustment elected leader at the end of Oh six horrible election for Republicans he was entering entering and it's almost a low watermark low watermark was actually the next two years after the Obama victory but but it was time for the party was really really tough and hired me essentially because they wanted to revamp communications and he rightly diagnosed the Republicans particularly in the Senate Twenty Years Behind The Times I remember walking in my first day and they were doing that old sort of like reel to reel tape where they had <hes>. I remember Ted Stevens sitting in the Old Republican Conference <hes> recording what he thought was a radio radio show that they basically put on a tape and radio actuaries right but for him it actually work because you get these you sent them out because the very small radio stations were desperate for content and they would run these little five minute and now a message your senator and they just run these unedited totally and it was like do I mean radio actuaries classic. That's what they were called and we were at that point. We're in the advent of the Internet age. Age and media was diversifying considerably and we figure out how to get get up to speed so that's what I was higher for. So what's interesting to me about your role in McConnell world is and this is where the left is on twitter sometimes retreat you and the right wing on twitter sometimes attacks you yeah right because you seem to be of the pragmatic wing of the Republican Party which a lot of times put you against the trump wing of the party that fair why think what's fair fair is forever. We conflated the idea of practicality with being conservative or not conservative and had nothing ideology had nothing to do with McConnell and me frankly were always for the most conservative outcome possible the possibles a key part of that sentence right and when you're in a governing mode particularly leadership mode you can't just pile at the country into one shut down after another one economic crash after another I mean we saw during my tenure as chief of staff there. There were two or three episodes fiscal cliff. If you remember the budget control act was another with the <hes> markets basically on the edge of default where we had significant economic ramifications that could have taken place in impacted the American people in a very very serious way of something wasn't done and so governing governing is now lost on me and I learned from McConnell. That's part of the job what's interesting though is that you've been more aggressive than most pushing back at this wing of the party that wants to sometimes hey. Let's like the fuse and just see what happens there. Is this mindset so what if the experts say that yeah well okay there is that but that wing of the party's still growing. Why do you think you've had lesson you? When I say you meaning your wing of this party? The governing learning wing of the of the conservative movement has lost these battles more than they want. I don't I don't think we have lost and Franklin but I to the extent that that sentiment is growing. I think it's growing on the left faster than it's growing on the ride. No doubt it's growing on the left but you still trump's trump's. Ascendancy has certainly empowered that wing on the right kind of separate. I separate that out a little bit I think I think trump's ascendancy speaks to a little different <hes> Fisher in the Republican Party than than the rise at a tea party the in sort of this idea that everybody in leadership is is out to get you in all your goals could be accomplished if only Republicans basically stop selling you out. I mean I think that's basically gone with the leadership of president trump what happened in ten and twelve fourteen in those election cycles though were extremely formative for bringing about that change because if you remember in ten and twelve you had candidates for Senate on the Republican ticket were absolutely unfit to be united senators absolutely unfit taty can right Richard Murdoch Christine O'Donnell Sharron Angle right right the list goes on and on what McConnell decided for the twenty fourteen eighteen election is that it's not enough from leadership perspective to win elections. You've gotTa make sure that you have candidates who can represent their constituency and do the job once they get there and oh by the way it helps if you can win an election in the process because all of the candidates that I just talked about lost a general and and basically cost Republicans your telegraphing that and it seemed like S._L._C. The Senate leadership fund which is essentially the the arm of the N._R._A._S.'s SUPERPAC. No it's but essentially the Senate Republican seem seemed to signal that you guys might get aggressive Republican primaries particularly Kansas and Chris Kobuk well. It's been a business model since two thousand fourteen I mean at twenty four you guys did it yourself against Matt Bevin right and now you created a governor but we can talk about that. I think McConnell Donald felt like he had to be the tip of the spear and it wasn't enough to sort of like tell his colleagues you have to go out and aggressively fight against this sort of uprise. He did it himself. He has more credibility. Yeah I think he felt like if I got skin in the game. I'M GONNA show everybody else that that this is important governing is important and so went out and did that and twenty four team was a really significant election for Republicans. You saw you know ten pretty aggressive. Primaries twelve candidates that were very electable make it out and almost a Republicans sweep in that election as a result because he had pretty good candidates and that that happened again in sixteen. We had the Roy Moore Situation <hes> but really I mean if you think about contested Republican Senate primaries yeah. It's basically like an eighteen in one record over the last tests so you have to tough ones. Don't you this year. Totally I mean North Carolina in Kansas. Are Those going to be that your priority we'll see I think it's really early to try to game out North Carolina. I think less significant than people are are. It looks terrible for tell us right now. Why do you say that it seems like he's getting out of the primer seems like it's going to be difficult well for one? He's got the president's endorsement which today's Republican Party matters a lot especially if he puts a shoulder in at the end yeah right yeah Arianne and shows up absolutely and so anticipate nine -ticipant he will do that and Senator Tillis. I think has a ninety percent voting record with president trump so I I imagine that he's going to be <hes>. I think he's fine in the primary. Obviously it can North Carolina's difficult general election state too so that's a tough state. I was just going to say you move too far to the right th th this is i._B._M.. Feels like Tillerson a vice grip yeah but there's been a number of that have been in a vice grip and you can navigate those waters the do this on a democratic side to my sense about the electorate currently their biggest remain. It's GONNA be interesting. They're gonNA have a progressive challenger to there to their recruit. There and it'll be interesting to see if they get aggressive. Yeah I think that's right and that's you know you've seen the D. trip. That congressional arm get much more aggressive totally they. They've borrowed a page from the McConnell. They openly admit it. They're like yes. We gotta get involved right. There basically looking a lot like the N._F._C. of years past and now it looks like the the S._e._C. Probably hasn't decisions to make if they're gonNA kinda follow that I would argue. There's actually no way to win majority if you don't i. I don't think you think you're just you're putting too much at risk if you don't you gotta you gotta get all in Harry Reid's mindset would have been that yeah. You'RE GONNA find out about Schumer. Who's got his own concerns? Schumer's got a balance twenty twenty two. He forget primary so I have no doubt where Harry Reid had a little more leeway <hes> it's a different party right now than it was for Harry Reid Chuck Schumer sitting on top of he's been happening in the house with Nancy Pelosi. I mean we were all talking about the Pelosi dynamic but Chuck Schumer's got very similar situation going on and in some ways in the Senate. It's really difficult to navigate Mitch McConnell. What is ideologically conservative? I I mean I I it feels. I don't know I mean people always it's like. I think he's for winning. I know I mean that. I don't feel like he's he is a finish line guy. I if that's ideologically conservative great if it's beneficial to Kentucky better and after that is a good politics period yeah I disagree with that. I'm just saying I'm taking the transactional approach yeah. He looks very transactional. The Kentucky thing doesn't get a lot of attention because we're all focused on his leadership job and machinations of Washington but I mean his his focus on Kentucky is unbelievably real. I mean I when I was his chief of staff. Those are the meetings he takes right. See shows up from fortune five hundred company. They're going to sit in the lobby while I got the mayor Paducah in their turf talking through issues right so all of that is number one priority but he has been since he was elected in one thousand nine hundred four a significant right-of-centre conservative. The issue that he like I said at the beginning is possible right. He's not enough. He always said this is a perfect. You're either here to make a point or you're here to make a difference right. His view is I gotTa make a difference and if I there's no way to make the difference if I'm just constantly yelling into a microphone and nothing's ever happening. Seventh terms are very difficult. I don't care who you are and I don't care what state you're running in especially in that stem. If you remember his first his first to elections for against I mean they were tough. They were close. He won by vote a precinct in one thousand nine hundred four right but I just say seventh in general. I mean you know a lot of guys if they get a competitive race in that seventh term. You're suddenly battling something else. That is doesn't get pulled very easily. Have you been there too long. Yeah I think so. I think there's two issues. One is McConnell. Every Thursday night goes home right. He didn't like hanging out around D._C.. And the reason it's not like talking point the reason I like hanging running with you or anyone I mean he's got this little tailgate crew that he hangs out with on the weekends that would you would find absolutely hilarious. Yeah I mean it's classic really really really classy but but the point there's a reason I think that's significant as he's never been sort of caught up by the trappings of all of this I mean when you go and you've gone and covered him in in Kentucky and seen sort of what he's like. He doesn't have this sort of aristocratic separation that politicians petitions that have served as long as he hasn't certainly in the capacities that he has developed. I mean he's doesn't think he's entitled anything and so I think the way that's translated. Is that each and every election he knows he's gotta go out and earn everybody's vote and it sounds trite from our standpoint but it's real. What does the Amy McGrath fundraising twenty four hours tell you I I mean I think as T- McConnell has looked at this? They thought you could pick any name out of the phone book and put an eight figure first week against him. I mean that's that's you feel like the the his negative ratings nationally are enough with liberals that they were just going to support what better work experience against Ted Cruz yeah exactly and I and I don't think it has like I said I think he'd be any name in the name in the in the phone book and I think once they get the exposure of being the anointed democratic credit candidate. They're gonNA raise an enormous amount of money her problems math problem. It's not the money problem. You're going to have more money than she ever spent or problem is that in the sixth district of Kentucky the race that she lost Congress in two thousand eighteen. That's a blue district. Battled district is oblivious to calm down. She didn't go negative. She never ran a negative at and I still don't understand I mean that to me is my biggest question about her candidacy. You can't you almost pulled it off against Andy Bar break. Mitch McConnell who somehow you guys embrace cocaine Mitch as a title as he says he said yesterday which was yesterday being Tuesday of or early this week. Well you know unlike a lot of my members. I won't name any names. I actually enjoy campaigns needs. This is obviously he'll you guys will be willing to be bare knuckle now. Won't you sure let me finish my train of thought on the numbers okay so the Sixth District Rand Paul in two thousand sixteen in a wave year for Republicans in Kentucky lost the sixth district by three points to great the Democratic Senate candidate he still one st by fifteen and a half points hires your point sector math problems what you're saying yeah so so you can lose the sixth district and still win by almost twenty points across the state. She lost the sixth district and now she's entering McConnell right. I mean this is not some congressional candidates. Whose you know first time came up in Kentucky I mean he knows how to win? Win these races over and over again and deep constituency across the state Bevan's race yeah. What does you fear and unemployed Matt? Bevin filing is going to be a close race fear and unemployed Bevan being out there challenger. No No. I think that is that relationship like it's pretty good. Actually I mean to be honest with you. Those that don't remember Matt Bevin Primary Mitch McConnell Twenty four cycle loss turned around it ended up winning primary for governor that you guys actively tried to help defeat him and he wins the governorship. Yeah I mean we didn't actively do anything I can tell you. The funny thing about McConnell is destroy more candor than your than I. I should talk probably gets over things a lot easier than I do on the operative level. I mean the day most elected officials that have been around awhile after yeah I mean the day after the election it was sort of water under the bridge and then once Bevan was elected he was he saw it as a Republican you know wider than that McConnell was first elected a place when the Republican party basically didn't exist in Kentucky and he has to its move further to his right he is taken in. Is that fair to say that the Kentucky Republican Party's probably more conservative conservative Mitch McConnell i. I don't know that that is that is correct. I don't know that that is correct. I think there were elements of that and fourteen that presented itself <hes> I think given the partnership that they've had between president trump and Mitch McConnell on things like conservative judges and tax reform and the like that is largely non-existent. I think that party is healed is ever has been at least as long as I've been around my thanks to Josh our special edition of meet. The press press continues in just a moment welcome back to a special edition meet the press. I'm Chuck Todd a couple of weeks ago. I had the chance to interview president trump and I wanted to share something extra from the interview that we couldn't fit into the broadcast. It's this part of the conversation where the president focused on the twenty twenty democratic field and what he thinks about Jon Stewart's plea for nine eleven funding Republican Party is change in your energy. Do you think you caused that change or do you think the party was changing and you were the leader. Commonsense tense caused it. You know I'm about common sense people say. Are you conservative. I guess some conservative but I'm about common sense. I'm about we need borders. WE'RE GONNA have borders we have strong borders and by the way Mexico has done a great job. It's slowed down so much but we have an amazing amazing economy and people WANNA come up. Slow down so much but I'm about borders. I'm about great healthcare. Obamacare is a disaster. I got rid of the individual mandate economy doing so well. If obamacare law the land you had set in twenty three are managed cares going to destroy the economy obamacare because I've managed it great. I had a choice I could've let it implode and killed it or I could have managed to kill it. If you this lawsuit that the Department of Justice joining it could get rid of I am in favor. I am in favor of preexisting conditions. I am fighting. We will drop your aspect of it has nothing to do with it. The lawsuit is one thing we are going to put into bill. Total pre existing conditions and the Republicans are in favor favor of preexisting conditions control. They couldn't pass any up. Are you ready to get it done this. We had a negative vote from John McCain. It was surprising vote but I got rid of the worst part of obamacare which was the individual mandate we will always protect pre existing conditions. The reason obamacare continues is my decision wait. I made a big decision. We have a man named as our our secretary is fantastic man Alex a total pro. I could have managed Obamacare so it would have failed eld or I could have managed the way we did so it's as good as it can be not great but it's good. It's too expensive the premiums to high I had a decision to make I could've politically killed obamacare. I decided not to do it but still it's not good. We're GONNA come up with great healthcare. If we win the House the Senate and the president's you prepared to lose no probably much better. It would be much better if I said yeah. You're it'd be much easier for me to say well No. I'm probably not to prepared to lose. I don't like losing. I haven't lost very much lost the popular vote if obviously did well. I think it was a <hes> I mean I'll say something that again is controversial ratio. There were a lot of votes cast that. I don't believe I look at California. President Xi is me but take a look at judicial. Watch take a look at their settlement where California admitted to a million votes there admitted to a million votes to take a look could judicial judicial watch may the settlement there were there was much it was much illegal votes but let me tell you about popular vote. Do you have a second yes 'cause. They're a coup. Well Popular Vote Yeah. I think I do better with the popular vote but I didn't campaign for the yellow. You didn't see me campaigning in California New York if I if if it was up to the popular vote I would've done. I think even better I won three. Oh six to two twenty-three which was a lot in the electoral college but it's like you're training for the hundred yard dish versus the mile you're you're totally totally popular vote. I wait to Wisconsin Schieffer. God I went to Michigan. She didn't go to Michigan enough. I one Michigan Wisconsin Pennsylvania Vania places that she didn't do good job. What can I tell you know? Maybe I did a great job. I never get credit for that. They will say she was a lousy candidate. I actually think that Hillary Clinton was a great candidate. She was very smart. She was was very tough. She was ruthless. Vicious rather run against her again. You talked about her in a lot of time talking to them. No I would actually rather run against Biden. I think that would be my preference. Sleepy Joe is sleepy. She was not sleepy. Let me just something. The Electoral College is tougher for Republican win then the popular in my at least me I feel I go to three places. I went to nineteen or twenty one states <music>. I went to Maine four times because I wanted to get one and I did get it and that's the beauty of the Electoral College. I've been proponent of the other sometimes and I change but I will tell you. The Electoral College brings you to many of the states in this country you you joked about so a third term you joked about. I only joke I I joke and say I will drive craze. You will yes except the results except whatever happens in two thousand twenty. She'll be like you're not gonna like it but you walk account. Fact I said at a speech recently said watch will drive the media crazy. Let's go for third term. Then a fourth and some of the media said he's going to do it driving people crazy when you were asked about Mike Pants and two thousand twenty four in you paused a minute about endorsing him as your succession that got a lot of people going if Mike Pence hundred percent on your ticket in two thousand twenty well look I one hundred percent hundred percent. There is it's been he's been a terrific vice president my friend of a lot of things no zero zero so why did you hesitate and endorsing him because he was. I was surprised question but so far out I mean it's so far that would be the only now what happens in two thousand twenty four. I don't know that Mike is going to run. I don't know who's running or anything else. I will say this. I think it's a tremendous embarrassment to Joe Biden. That Obama has not that President Obama. I like to say that because it's respect for the office and respect for him you speak any of the former presidents <hes> yes. I speak to Bush. I spoke to Jimmy Carter. I have not spoken to him. George W Bush from the beginning Jimmy Carter <hes> I have spoken to push. I have spoken to Jimmy you get. I liked him. You gotTA enter. Jimmy Carter's oftentimes come to my defense. I don't necessarily agree with the way ran things and that's okay and he understands it and so he came to my defense on numerous occasions and he thinks thinks that I was treated the worst of anybody's ever seen by the press during. I don't think he's every new season the apprentice you had something new to roll now. What's your big new idea for <hes>? I think that the economy has tremendous upward potential despite despite the fact that we're doing really well I think when we really unleash some of the new Guy <hes> I also think that <hes> healthcare is going to be very important for me. I will tell you if we win the House the Senate and the presidency I will get tremendous. This healthcare is obamacare is at the house because of healthcare. I think they won because a preexisting condition nothing to do with me because if you know almost every race that campaign for somebody they want but I couldn't devote too much time to the house too many people but what if you look at some of the congressman that I did go for and what they want like in Kentucky et Cetera et Cetera one new one thing of Ohio governor he was behind great guy. Mike One Georgia President Obama was there oprah was they have Michelle Obama was there was going to be a big celebration. She was the star of the party. I went there for Brian. Brian Kemp Brian Kemp one Florida Rhonda Santa's he was going to lose. He was low in the polls. I endorsed me went up sixty points after I endorsed him Ron One and he's been a great governor Florida. I've always heard that an endorsement is nice to have but it doesn't mean anything. I'm driving people people up thirty forty fifty sixty percent when you show up you bring a lot of people we bring something very good. I'm curious that you see Jon Stewart's pretty passionate plea on behalf of nine eleven. I was very impressed. Yes <hes> are you going to. He's frustrated with Mitch McConnell because like Mitch McConnell's the guy standing in the way of this Bill Your New Yorker. I know that in you gotta think John Stewart got to you yeah well. Are you going to tell Mitch McConnell. I I liked what John Stewart did. I actually did and I actually have a meeting on that subject. Check next week so we'll see what happens very complicated subject but I have a meeting at a point that Congress hadn't done enough. I have a meeting with that on that subject with <hes> well when you say Congress billions of dollars has in pay understand that okay billions right with the bundles memorials have been have been built tremendous amounts of money but there is still people that are sick. I have a meeting on next week. You can of course watch the full interview at meet the Press Dot Com. We hope you enjoyed this special edition of the press with interviews from the Chuck Todd Casts and meet the press you can find these conversations and more like them on Apple podcast spotify or wherever you get your podcast. We've back next week because if it's Sunday it's meet the press.

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Megan Rapinoe: I'm not running for office because Democrats have standards

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Megan Rapinoe: I'm not running for office because Democrats have standards

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Today we're going to play a live interview. I recently recorded with Meghan repea- no the US US women's soccer star who co captain. The team that won the two thousand Nineteen World Cup. This is the second time. She's been Rico decode since then and I spoke to her at the Massachusetts Solicits Conference for Women in Boston. So let's go there now to hear my conversation with Megan Rufino. Did you know that you were style. ICON CON one to be being freaking. I know there's lesbians are here to save the day yes we are. It was telling her backstage. I'm going to tell my socks for one hundred twenty thousand dollars each. Everybody knows Basil. Yeah Very Good Art Basil Joke as Basel Basel Anyway Basel. So what I really want to know is where did you come from now. uh-huh right I want to put off that. I have a lot of things. We did an interview not too long ago. But there's lots to update on what you're doing i. Let's have a quick make update on the pay equity situation. You've been fighting for those who don't know for pay equity among the athletes. Where are we? We are not really in a holding pattern like all of the legal things are happening. I'm trying trying to figure out at every moment. What all the legal things are? All the legal things are happening behind. The scenes motioned Blah Blah. Depositions are happening right now. The trial is set set for some time in. May I guess there's a few weeks ago or a month ago. Our class status was certified. So that's amazing using and in it the judge just call bullshit on all of it which was really cool. Basically he was like it's absurd for are you as the federation to say that it's not discrimination. If in the end they make the same. The woman work double he was like Duh. I mean in hello is a legal term but go ahead. Yeah it does. Obviously I mean how I know the things now. So that's kind of where we are. I mean that was a if just for like a a personal and emotional sense of validation that was a really big day for us but obviously have the class certified was amazing. And we're I guess just sort of barreling towards a trial so we're talking about why this is still important. Obviously you got a lot of attention right after you win. An which creates a lot of you've had the parade and everything else. I WanNa talk about why you think this is a this is a critic pay is always the most important thing money is is the most important part of it tullet. Why you what you'll do if you lose and what you think is important in this fight? I don't think there's this scenario really where we lose right. I mean you could sort of like you could lose an tile or whatever but we're still this in the same exact position so I don't really think it's about that. I think that we're winning period. how quickly we get equal? Pay is a different story. But I think that we're winning. It's important obviously. That's the way that we sort of qualify everything. How much do you pay? That's the way that we put importance on things and tell help people that they're important or not important and it's just like fair under the law so we're we're coming out at from not just like Oh we deserve this or that but like actually under the law. You're not allowed to do what they're doing that. Part of it is important for us. So let's talk about you after the win total. Hi You guys. Is this incredible. Incredible World Tour everywhere. What's like now kind of the same? That's a constant party already. I mean certainly drinking a lot less because you cannot keep up that kind of behavior and sort of any semblance of normal It's kind of the same. It just sort of keeps bouncing back up. I think we're I'll be right now. A big part of it but I think we're just a part of what's happening in the world right now you can look at Hong Kong or the Middle East or protests in South America or here in America people are sick of it and they're realizing that the system was designed like I was saying to cut them out and that's not fair fair and I think people are energized and motivated by that to actually take the next step in to do something more about. It's still just a crazy too. I mean especially for me me personally. I've never had any of this in my life or my career and like all of a sudden this like I'm getting all these awards doing all these things I mean. It's just ridiculous on I'm just enjoying it and taking all in and also trying to take care and respect the platform that has been built by so many others and I understand that's culminating in me in this moment and that sort of what happens at different times of different personalities but it's really all of us that are in it together this. What's the most ridiculous killers thing you've done recently? What is the thing that you did that? You never thought you'd be there like I'm sitting here in Buckingham Palace hanging with what so me and the Queen gene got T- I had this was sort of early on but I had a very random facetime call from Jaylo. Oh Yeah didn't expect that you know. I didn't although the ad for portal with her and Kim Kardashian but go ahead for the Sir Home Surveillance Yes exactly. When I saw those ads I was like really like I'm going to trust you? y'All with a camera in my house probably not. That'd be like spitting trump ads that you like all day long. Just I'M GONNA get to him in a minute in jail. She did face again. Yeah there was. She was doing a concert and she wanted us to come to the concert. I think Karl Lloyd ended up going into the concert but it was like it was in New York and I couldn't make it because it takes forever to travel everywhere we need like what happened to concord like. Can we bring that back now. It's too expensive. Yes yes Sandy Murman bad for the environment. Yeah she was asking backstage. How tech is going to solve the travel problem and it's human beings that problem with moving through time and space? Yeah Yeah just. It's not going to happen anytime soon. Other crazy I forget a lot of things to I need to like. Write more things down but I. I don't know if one of the questions I asked twitter what I should ask you and one of the things. Everybody came up with was that you should run for office. Are you considering during this. God help us now contrary to what this last election and but us four years you actually do you need have qualifications to run for office otherwise you completely fuck it up. I know this is not the thought is outrage if you act first of all I'm running on. The Democratic side standards are way way higher. Maybe Republican then I off wakes thought. Why don't you run as a Republican? That would fuck everybody. Oh God yes yeah that would that would be I. I would. Yeah we would have to shift policy of the party much gay or Mike Pence. God what would he do. He might actually lead dust before. Yes exactly all right. So why wouldn't you run for office when I first of all. I think that I really truly am not qualified. Lied to run for office okay. So it's like I could run for office but then like everybody else would just be doing all the work like I would. I would certainly be you. You know up for hiring everybody else to do everything because I would have to. 'cause I wouldn't know what to do But now I don't think I'm qualified to run for office and there's been there has been. I think it was the first time I heard this. Rachel Madison a number of years ago. There's been this shift away from trusting people who have been in politics as if politics is just like this thing you can like pick up at the store and do no you need to like be talented and like have knowledge of it and have experience in it to actually do the best job that you can for everybody in the country. It's not just about like this whole popularity contest or you know who's most recognize yellow. Whatever like do I would be better candidate Than Elizabeth Warren? Oren I mean oh my gosh like right crazy like I mean. What do you do tweet? Well that seems to be the main qualification. Yeah I'm I am fast and loose with the tweet so that's not as Aston Lusa some okay speaking of that you got attacked by President Trump online. Quite a few times sort of stuck with you for a while but today he tweeted against Credit Thunberg one time person of the year and she suffers from Aspect is as well known and he did tweet. That was pretty insulting about someone who has asked Bernard they chill. Maybe you could smile and look at people some time all kinds of really lovely sentiments. She's a teenager How she answered pretty well? She changed her description. She took I shit down. That was so good. She changed her description she take on. It was the best thing I saw about. It was like Yo. Oh these kids grew up in the Internet. You will never out do that. This is like I mean it's just like oh it was just so brilliant. It was just so bright. She's so awesome. That's I feel like she's just like now. I'm not living inside this structure of the system anymore. I don't need to like you know. Try to live up to all these standards that you'll just keep moving the goalposts right just as totally outside of it and doing her own thing and maybe her asperger's actually is is a benefit of that. He's an idiot. I mean he's Nydia in the loose sense of it all your your annoying any but it's awesome just like. Are you watching the impeachment stuff for you paying attention as much as I can. Yeah I mean it's it's like nonstop every single day but I'm trying to like like keep up on the highlights. I just saw the thing the other day that was based just a video of of Jerry Nadler having to be like the gentleman doesn't doesn't do the motion the gym. But the like all like the interjections and things and it's just ridiculous they're laying themselves so disgustingly bear in all of this. You know there's there's no argument human as to why the president isn't guilty of of all of these things from anyone on that side so I think that Adam didn't incredible job. I think I think that the Democrats have done a really amazing job which the Republicans have been amazing at it. Just it's just like chaos theory. Just do do whatever it takes to get anyone off track. And I feel like they've actually stuck to it and given the American people are really good picture of what's happening and agree. What the repercussions on your life? Did it have at the time we talked right after you. You've got a lot of incoming from mega people etc central. What do you think the overall repercussions? Because I think it worked out well for you but you there Jordan Johnson. That's not why he thinks trump yet. But no you you play soccer pretty well from what I understand. No but I think absent that where it's it's different. It's totally not as as as big. It's not it doesn't transcend the sport as much and to the level that it has. I don't think that rallies people I think it was so so unpatriotic what he did in so low and just like it was so clear what he was trying trying to do. But then you do it in this context where it's like that's amazing thing about the national team is that we get to wear the Jersey twenty times a year. Where in front of everyone like you you go into a bar on in whatever? NFL Sunday. I'm for the Patriots on for this team in this kind of that class but you go to a new bar in the World Cup and everything is thrown away. And we're just just like America and America first and you're going to be the first one to try to take down in the biggest game that we have in the World Cup like you're going to be the one that try to take down one one of the American players the captain of the team. Obviously the one. That's been very outspoken. So it just struck this court with people that elevated everything to this new level so when you think about that moment when you did that couple there's I'm GonNa Finish up in just a few minutes to talk about. What got you to the really real? What caused you to do that but you were talking about being outside? The system had a very traditional sports. I'M GONNA go for it. I'm going to be proud of myself. I'm going to like celebrate my accomplishments and the accomplishments of my team unapologetically. Can you talk about that. Like what got you to be that way. I mean I think just my natural disposition is sort of like that and I think more than just just being an athlete I do see myself as an as an entertainer and I like that. I think that US on the national team are keenly aware of the relationship between between the media and the business. We're basically just like a traveling circus business. So it's like the more interesting drum up the bigger it gets and we've kind of like are okay with that and we we do leverage it but we also do it in a way that we know our intention is for good and like to lift everyone else up. I think the trump's trump's up I mean clearly I wasn't going to the White House like I had said that you know a number of times and other sports people it said that and they said that months before but then it was just like I mean much kind of like grit. I didn't I didn't grow up in. The Internet. Came all the social media later in my life but it was just just kind of like this is an actual L. O.. L. Joke that this is happening like this doesn't even make sense as a complete glitch out so so it didn't land heavy on me and I think for the rest of the team they were taking their cues from me and I was Kinda like crazy but also like this is so stupid Ed and like it's just not really worthy of putting energy and effort layer like emotional energy into and then we had to go like play the game and then of course then then That's like I'm in my element and then I get to score goals and it's like it's a wrap. I'm taking that moment to the house. Yeah Yeah Yeah did you and the arm thing I had done it once before but no it certainly took on a whole different meaning and feeling of it. All part wanted to is that you know. The French liked to think that they're like so free wheeling. And all this and I'm like you guys are pretty uptight and you need to loosen up so it was. There's like an opportunity to just be like you kind of know you like love it. They're tearing against me. But it's like you wish I was on your teams there was like a little uh-huh and then certainly certainly back at the administrator. Any of our doubters doubters in general. It's like oh I'm so. Sorry God God forbid we have any fun at the World Cup and do any celebrations and get people to watch and drum up interest and also this is the biggest moment of our lives in like this. This is the whole point of the game is to score the goal. So what does this say. What are you saying when you're doing this? Are you saying I'm not in the system queue or are you saying thing I'm fantastic or all of the all of it it's like it's totally a clapback to any detractors. But it's also a welcome welcome to everyone else and it's not really an us in them thing. I never really look at it that way. But it's like very clear what we all stand for part of it is just like pure entertainment value. That's just going to be a very striking pose in a moment. Where sixty thousand eyes are on you and then of course you you know the TV and all of that so there's just like a fun factor to it and then it just like a joyful defiance shitting Grin Tin tipped up like Ma Ma tube? Another move that you're working on know what I mean. This is going to be pretty hard to screw stick with this. Might have to be a good. So what is next for you. You're not going to run for office. You're doing a clothing company doing a clothing company. We've launched. That's been in totally an amazing mazing experience. It's like you know nothing and everything at the same time. We know the essence of what. We're trying to do what we're trying to say gender neutral yeah different to Androgynous because drudges just boy closed lesbians. Wear so that's really everyone. I So we sort of wanted to create this Palette that really anybody can wear any part of it. We're going to give you the full Palette and then you decide how you want to wear where the sweatpants can be worn high waisted or stag same with the short sweatshirts obviously just those things are just comfy and everyone wants to wear them. It's just that a Lotta Times. It's made from one perspective or in one sort of size that cuts a lot of different people out of it Kinda wanted to try right at least capture. The most people could still making something that feels like dope and that we would. So who are you aiming for teens or anyone anyone. Yeah yeah anyone I mean my kids want it but it's too expensive but yeah we never said it was going to be. I like it I like. Did she go ahead and charge. You should share the quality of it in the market of what it is. It's affordable. Yeah the last one. I paid for Tyler. The Creator Sweatshirt. God I did take a mortgage out on three wears not. Yeah aren't you so you're doing this but what do you see yourself doing. How many how much longing play another season and other? I don't know I'll go through this next year and then sort of I'm not trying to be vague about it or anything everyone. It always asked me physically. I feel good but we kind of go in these four years cycles. So Am I gonNa WanNa do a whole another four years. There's obviously a lot of other things that I'm really interested in. I love the business that I'm running. I would love to get like more into investing talk about like a world. That's very small and quite homogeneous so yeah seed investing and just like breaking into that a little bit more I think especially for female athletes because of the money that we're make were often like cut out of that whole whole sector which I think we can be really interesting and impactful in that way any of the candidates who are GonNa let me on their planes or buses. I WANNA come I I WANNA get involved and want to run for office but I think that I have a favorite Democratic presidential candidate I think. Elizabeth Warren is my favorite. Yeah indefinitely why I just even just like her physical look just says. I don't care what anyone thinks and I'm not trying to be a certain way like looks good like it's not like you know she's showing up in a bed sheet or anything but she's also just like she's very much her I think she's incredibly smart. I think we need radical policies. I think this idea which I think probably is is where Joe Biden falls into like sort of shepherding like cautiously shepherding out of the trump era into this sort of you. You know what that says to me. I need to wait longer. People have colored need to wait longer. Women need to wait longer. Gays need to. It's like everybody like how long are are we going to continue to just wait for like we. We need something radical like we really do and I think that's why Bernie Sanders resonate so much with young people. He does you know he's like he's Zig knows. The system like needs to be totally broken apart. So I mean Warren Harris ticket. Give the people. What about Warren? Repeat now all right last question to wrap up if you message. This is a lot of people here. This is a lot of frigate this deep. What would be your message for twenty thousand for all these people and more? You are more impactful than you think so. Think about if every person in this room picked up one piece of trash in all of Boston every single day that they went out like it'd be cleaner city. Obviously so if you think about in terms of politics politics are having hard conversations or inspiring other people like. Don't worry about you know you're not going to be the president of the United States. Most likely so you can't have that kind of impact happen. You can have massive impact and think the way that that ripples and then also obviously we have a lot of women in the room force multiply with each other. I think there's so many more stories out there and so much more happening and more power happening with women than we really realize and I think we need to who like I was saying before like gain power from each other stories and find those common threads and at times. It's difficult because you might be the only one in your job or very few or you're sort of isolated that way but sort of take the experiences and the power that other women have for yourself either as motivation or as protection or or as a way to motivate other women and other people take that sort of interior daily life perfect everybody this shy and retiring negative. Who is not waiting in line? No thank you Megan for coming on the show again you can follow me on twitter at Cara. Swisher my executive executive producer Eric Anderson. Eric America my producer. 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Megan Rapinoe still isnt going to the White House, even if Trump invites her

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Megan Rapinoe still isnt going to the White House, even if Trump invites her

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We'll ask why is Amazon building microwaves powered by Alexa and why is it making all these robots and we'll tackle the biggest question of our time he's Amazon too big too powerful land of the giants from recode and the VOX media podcast network new episodes come out every Tuesday. Listen and subscribe for free on Apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP hi. I'm Tara Swisher editor at large recode. You may know me as someone who does the Meghan re Pinot victory pose every time I sent a good tweet but in my spare time time I talk tech and you're listening to Rico decode from the vox media podcast network today. We're GONNA play the four hundred episode of recode decode and I'm so thrilled is with Meghan re piano the CO captain of the U._S. National Women's soccer team team. This interview was recorded at the Mobile Marketing Association C._E._O.. And C._M._O.. Summit in Sonoma's California so let's go there now to hear my interview with Meghan Repea- no the chairs are decorated yeah. That's lovely put it in front. Yeah like thank you buddy. I'm so excited for this interview. I wore my sunglasses. Just recently interviewed a Buddha judge that I'm going to take them off for Meghan which I never do <music>. I'm about Sunday. I know you're about sunglasses. We're going to talk about your sunglass. Can everything else let's start off talking about confidence and we'll get to the game and everything else one of the things. You said. That really struck me which was a quote that you had is. I deserve of this. I want everything it was a great quote that you had which I thought was an astonishing quote because when women say quotes like this it makes people super uncomfortable so let's talk about confidence. Where do you get that from? And how do you think it's perceived achieved when you when you say things like that <hes> good question. I'm not sure exactly where I get it from <hes>. I think I'm born with it a little bit. I think I've been very successful in my career so I get a lot of positive feedback in that way I mean I think we're on a team. That's incredibly successful so that's part of it but I think I also don't give very many of the efforts and it can fit him a really tiny bag and I feel like I know my worth and I know my value or at least what I think it is <hes> maybe that comes in the face of never being compensated that way you know he's feeling like I deserve this. I've earned it double and triple times over so that's kind of where that come came from the I deserve this actually between one of my teammates and I- Ashlin Harris. We were just like you know what we've observed us. We deserve everything I think we serve as prayed. We deserve all the campaign that people are giving us who serve all this shine. We worked very hard for it a little bit ingest of course but but also I think to to be that outspoken voice in the country right now. We're not just thankful Foale to be there. I worked very hard to get there and <hes> feel like all right. We're not when you talk about that. That comment is it isn't as common. It's definitely not comment in the business world as much and it's definitely not the case in Silicon Valley when people <hes> especially women stand out. It's noticed it's noticed in not in a positive way <hes> how would you talk to you need a lot of young people here especially young girls. How do you think about that in terms of getting adding that into our culture the idea of owning your space? I think it's like Oh. It's owning your space for those lots of people I talked to interview. They're like well. I really like her but she was real arrogant about what she said and I I I said F._U.. And then I said he said you think about that when you think of Michael Jordan or when you think of Steph curry when you think of anyone else and so many people are like I don't. I don't think allow them to do that. I don't I don't incredible suddenly woke <hes> and especially the pose that you did. How did you come up with that because that is oppose of it's a little bit sort of gladiator like Russell Crowe in gladiator like are you not entertainment is exactly where it came from? You're not from gladiator radiator particular <hes> I actually did it one time before the World Cup and it was in <hes> a friendly so not massively important but we were playing Australia and they were sort of one of the favorites in the World Cup and we the game was sort of back and forth and I had scored go ahead goal <hes> in the game and you know sold out crowd in Denver and it was that moment of like I did this obviously the team did it but also just like yeah. This is my my mom tries like this is the whole point of of the game is designed to the goal but I think going back to the confidence thing we're extremely lucky two very different from other women at the top of there at the top of their game or in and their business and yeah we're with twenty three or twenty five other women all the time there at the Mary Pinnacle of what they do. which is you know extreme? That's probably nothing else like it. I think if you're at the top of your game there's there's only one of you or there's you know maybe I'll a couple of you in the office couple C. C. Suites if that so I feel like it's normal for us to kind of be though in a how that confidence and sort of take up space because we take up so much face as a team and there's so many different personalities within that so I think we're we're really lucky to sort of grow up in that way and not have to always be kind of the only one in the room and I think it's really hard to take all of that space and the have that kind of confidence when you're sort of the only one all the time sue the team itself even though it's the best and at one many years ago has been one of the best in the world. It's still been marginalized in a lot of ways within the sport itself. <hes> talk a little about that now and then you're getting attention now yeah it's it's it's an amazing and frustrating existence to be on the disastrous seem all at one time we feel like sort of goes in this kind of every four year. Cycle winning is is the most important and the thing that makes the most difference obviously and winning this time one four years ago but we hadn't won the World Cup before that since ninety nine and we were still just kind of in this old system sort of old world we tried to as much as we can push the federation as far as we can. It's hard as well because we're twenty three players constantly change in and out <hes> we're just now in the last couple of years starting to get our players association much more robust and Organiz so that helps but it's sort of this revolving door of players and at certain times you have a veteran group of players that are really good hood incredible strong leaders and then at times you don't I think our progress as a team has ebbed and flowed with that I think now we're in a in a really good period where we're very organized coupled with you know really a strong powerful women in in our leadership group but it's incredibly frustrating. It's not really a complicated problem. I think that make it a complicated problem all of the time but I think Oh oh the market realities are such that you shouldn't well. You're very good job. You should just Margaritas Yourself T._v.. Ratings they WANNA say oh you don't bring in is not as much. That's the new and it's like well you. How are you investing equally are invested equally in the US programs? Do we have a Youth Academy equally and coaching staff and branding and marketing and the whole thing so it's like yeah you can say that we don't bring in or have historically not brought in as much revenue as medicine but if you're not investing as equally as it's so simple just under the same argument in Tech. It's an interesting thing that it becomes the same thing as we don't Ah we can't hire women because there's not enough women and we try to hire women but they're not there continues to be the same yeah. It's it's not a difficult equation. So what do you think I about the gay that game itself and then I want to figure out what was the game name so you talk a little bit about that. Just what are your highlights from that from that experience from the whole tournament Yeah Oh man I mean seeing Roosevelt score and the final the highlight for me <hes> she was phenomenal domino's the whole time <hes> all the younger players really all the ones that never been there before <hes> just to see the joy that they had and the the way that they performed was the big highlight. It felt like it was a home World Cup yet again. I'm Canada felt like that as well red and blue everywhere aware with the exception of the France game in Paris which was an incredible atmosphere every game felt like a home game which is really nice to be overseas and to have that kind of support scored lots of goals yes in the team score con bowl every game multiple about how you do that like besides being wildly talented sports and this is the trust me until you. I'm not the best sports it's ball literally in the only lesbian who is not a great laker of sports but I can see until now actually until now I really wasn't that interested and then someone's like Oh this Mega Pinos Great. I'm like all right her hair. That's how it went and I like you saying you love yourself and I like your arm thing and I said I understand power politics. I love this. This is fantastic. But how do you get Tattoo you. Do I mean I know how I get things how. How do you get things when you're an athlete like this high-performance Athlete? What do you think sets you apart? I think everyone at this level. Is You know the incredible the difference the differences are so small <hes> I think confidence is a big thing just believing in yourself all the time in that not necessarily that you're better than everyone else. I don't like really the comparing game I think that's kind of a slippery slope but just knowing that you're great great and believing in yourself that way saying physically in the best shape that you possibly can is incredibly important so you're always available for selection. You can always play. How much do you work out a day when your last ten today's zero? It's kind of seen actually like I should stretch or do something I haven't time I'm not making you feel guilty but no god I I mean like to at least two two and a half hours a day sort of Prefab Rehab the training all of that and then the recovery piece obviously we call naps and massages work okay so part of my yeah normal daily job and I don't know I guess the the mental side as well. I think that that's really important. I think athletes get inside their head a lot especially when you're in a team sport it's easy to compare to a lot of other people just keeping yourself sharpen sort of grounded and understanding that you're never going to be the best that every single thing just be the best at the one thing that no one else can do bring that so when you were going to get this wrong when you were doing the penalty kicks <hes> would it. How do you thank you so much? I'M GONNA I'M GONNA go way down from here. But how do you get in the mindset to get it in I- cheap. I keep a very very strict routine okay so that helps me not think about screaming crowd everything else. That's going on. <hes> I let the crowd in though I'm not I'm not the kind of athlete that gets like in zone. I feel like my zone is when I'm like giving a link to the crowd for corner kick and sort of like aware of everything that's going on and sometimes like a song stuck in my head like I'm not trying to block everything out. That's terrifying then. It's just me right yeah. That's that would that's too much. I tried to keep the same routine every time. Normally I'm sort of knowing where I'm going before and they usually do the same thing except on the one in the final I had like a strategy session. Ask Myself and my head. I was like she's really long and really good and she's going to be able to stretch where I want to go and she's also the goalie yeah. She's like goaltender go. She's watched any film of me obviously during the World Cup and then also in for the last three years in most of the big moments I've always gone like power into a certain place and so I just feel like I got a switch it up so that all Kinda went into an of course with the are now the like nick video assistant refereeing replaces it takes forever. They have to go to the sideline and it takes like you know an extra five minutes to do everything so there's a lot of time thinking so I went through all that and then just try to I mean I love Komo nervous big moments just like I love it. I Love Yeah Yeah. Yeah I mean I never think God if I miss it. In this moment on like can't wait to score so I can like get all that's that's probably really behind and I'm like I do this. I get this reward this great right okay so speaking of attention. Let's talk about trump. Did that help you get yeah. Just get into the mindset like this guy challenged me to get these goals. I think I'm going to kick his ASS. Josh I mean it was actually my initial reaction was like this L. O.. L. This is raising talk. How many national security items you skip over nearly? Let me just tweet Megan repeat. What is that Iran and North Korea southern border all good? We're just gonNA that's fine. I'm going to go on a crazy tirade with weird capitals all over the place right challenging me so what. That feeling was that because you had given that interview and you go a little bit and he said I'm not going there. It was just a one off interview. Interview was actually a couple of months before right and then someone had been holding onto that little golden nugget now get a couple of months. Honestly I don't I it wasn't like Oh my God the person to it actually someone had told me one of our media people like sent me a text that he didn't say in it but I was like oh I've done something I've done something bad right and so I I don't follow him and win on twitter looked at it and I was this is crazy what is going on. This is so insane right and we're like we're GonNa win so this is knocking age well how to win. I felt like you had we had time also like you know what this this is so rude like you are. You should be like doing everything you can or not doing anything right to make this team. Successful people are getting on board is the World Cup. It's America Erica of America like Joe U._S._A.. Were wearing red white and blue like you're super into this and then the biggest game in the tournament which is the biggest yeah not just to to to the date that we play but like this was going to be the biggest game. This is France U._S._A.. This is like right the biggest thing you're heaping down this like bold on all of us like this is. This is ridiculous so rude but I felt like it actually sort of unify the team everyone was like you're like from the back of the pest yeah he kind of unified everyone in that way but I also like your brewed this Hebrews right. Did you think about going to the White House then no not unless I'm being okay inducted inaugurated. We're going to get that politics later swearing in when you're swearing we're GonNa get the but when you when you were in that moment it didn't didn't add pressure to your to what was going on. No now not really I already we'd already had like some other controversy in it. We always have lots of controversy right already slayer hair hair and the you know the celebrations everything I was already slated to do the press conference. I I love good press conference. I was actually like hype for the press conference. I'm like Jill. I got this. You're no one wants ask questions so I just addressed it right away and it was fine I mean there was a little stress added obviously that ratchets actions things up a whole new level and there's all of these things that go along with being at the eye of Donald Trump. I wonder about your communication style too but I so then that game would happen in the game you just they were just resting asking you for the last game. Is that the one in between France no actually had a hamstring injury so I heard it at some point in the second half of the France game wasn't able to go for the game against England ladies had it bull confidence finance and then was able to make it back for the final. You had to be in the final right. I had to yeah it was I was actually a little nervous. I you know I've done my rehab and got into a certain speed two days before and then pretty much full sprinted did the day before because you never really really get to the level that you are in a game in training so then the first you know very quickly in the game. Actually I like had a sprint that I had to do right in the beginning and I was Kinda like this is either GonNa hold on or not right. It was okay so I was very thankful for that. Good so talk about your how you look it putting yourself out when you use what you love a great press conference. You're very good instagram. Your Entire Parade Cabrera on Instagram was quite something the champagne the sunglasses do you think about that and eating about marketing yourself because really you're the product in a lot of ways. I don't put a lot of in to be honest. I think this <music> I'm pretty open and transparent as a person <hes> I would say anyone who follows me on instagram. If they were at a dinner party of mine it would be quite similar I mean I think it was social media. I think it's <music>. It's sort of a love hate relationship as athletes as you know people have interest or famous people would have you have to do it and it's such a part of the business and there's real money opportunity in it and opportunity to sort of grow yourself and your brand I and raise awareness but then I'm always like you know taking yourself. Do you WanNa see this but then I'm like they do now. They WANNA see it's rare right right. I don't WanNa see this like I don't WanNa do this but but then I don't know I feel like I've the stories has been a good addition right to <hes> to instagram and just being able to kind of get it out there and then like let it go away a little bit <hes> but I don't. I don't put too much dot in it to be honest. I try A to just sort of be myself and I liked to have a good time. I liked to interact. I'm very social and sort of have a high capacity before I need to introvert for like one minute and then I'm back again <hes>. I don't really think about it too much. I just sort of enjoy and the pray I was like you guys thought my forms of the World Cup was good. Just wait until celebrations kicks your plan this celebrations. I don't really plan the well like the goal celebrations. Oh as you seem like you had every every proper place like the clothes that sunglasses pain. I mean yeah I mean yeah. I was just like you know you're going to be in these moments like it's just like this. Is that was fun for unlike I yeah I know how to do this. This is this is also like like you don't see here's a once in a lifetime Tunde New York. City shuts down for you right. You can't be a debt now. We're playing sure I mean they make us where their shirts but now you gotta be ready for this right. You can't go like this. Yeah now wanted to show you want. 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We'll explore how Amazon prime is the key to civic company's success and how it's something you'll never quit. We'll see what happens when Amazon builds a warehouse in a small Kansas town and then also what happens when it decides to leak and we'll ask why is Amazon building microwaves chiefs powered by Alexa and what is with all the robots it's built and of course we'll tackle. The biggest question of our time is Amazon Tubek too powerful who end of the giants from recode and the VOX media podcast network new episodes come out every Tuesday listen and subscribed for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcasts at talking about getting people to pay attention into women's soccer. Where are we right now like in from from people you have these if you would do that voice again at the soccer official? So how do you get that you you push really hard on pay equity for women. Where are you right now? Oh and what do you think needs to be done to get because it was the arguments you get whenever I tweet about you. A lot of people like well in here's the statistics wow yeah well. Let me tell you about everything. I don't know about yeah well right now. We're we're in the middle of Koshien where mediation will be and win will take place. I think it's going to be in the next couple of weeks so that sort of the first step were both sides of come together and decide probably settling his a better idea than going full on but we'll see where they are obviously things. It's like things have changed dramatically. Were even in a better position than we were before but I think that we were in a great position before that is what they have much much of elect to stand on in that sense certainly not now and I don't. I really don't understand the continued it's like where are we going in the world you know are we going more towards the side that you're finding is are are we not like the team is is at just an all time popularity. That far surpasses anything that sport could ever do. I don't understand why they don't want to attach himself to that and really. Why don't they want to attach themselves to that yeah? I don't know I mean it's like he when people ask me like what's up with women's sports. Why are we down with it? Like is it just sexism just institutional sexism that were just like not into. I don't know I don't I honestly I don't have a great answer. I think we've proved time and time again. We're entertaining were great role models the national teams wildly marketable and successful and has superstars and were fun. I and we're good I don't I don't I'm a complete lot. What about this is not the home rain money down in a way it's like I feel like the argument is always like well when when you when you do this then it'll be worth it and it's like what kind of business operates that way without like massive upfront in-depth investment right? I don't understand it's like we keep reaching these these benchmarks and blowing them out of the water are and continually proving that without the proper investment without equal investment without all of these sing for still you know Super Bowl ideal world. Would you like then billionaires. Yeah I mean you look at the M._L._S. like why is the M._l._s. been able to be so successful have huge pockets in their investment groups right. I mean huge like to look at what Atlanta United has done in the last couple of I mean they basically built this team in five five or six years in their seventy thousand people at their game every single is like people aren't just craving soccer that much that they're filling up these stadiums they have great people working for them and they're investing in them and they have great coaches and players and marketing marketing and takes us the whole thing and Arthur blank right so do you think about breaking off on your own. I mean Billie Jean King. Did that didn't work as well off the of the women's the women's circuit when they weren't make needed Virginia Slims which was an unfortunate fortunate selection of sponsor in as we as we look back on it yeah yeah try not to that didn't live long that didn't live on trying to use facebook as your as your sponsor this time teasing <hes> what how do you look at you need to pull off and do your own thing to prove it or you. Don't have television you don't have what do you need. It's difficult. There's not really an option to pull off because all of the world's game is governed by FIFA and the Confederations and and the Individual Federation so all of the Games that we play are within the fee for dates. All the rates are sanctioned by I mean we could we already are basically traveling circus. I guess we could legitimately be traveling circus but then you have to find the teams to play every every federation would have to break off in order to see your shoot option is to be allowed to get this yeah money. Yeah and your ideal thing would be to get what keep the focus on it keep the focus on it. Yes my ideal thing first and foremost almost would be like a major paradigm shift within the Federation so we can talk about compensation we talk about money all of these other things but until I think they really have a major shift and they're thinking about how they're going to the women's and how they're gonNA approach both teams to be honest. I think the business on both sides can be run far better than it is. That's the first step because otherwise we're gonNA keep having contention because they're going to keep coming from this perspective that we're we are paid what we're worth and you know we should just sort of shut up in place in play which are all. How does the team feel about this now they're going to not play or you're going to get what you WANNA get? I think that it will we're in the middle of our C._B._A.. Right now so oh I do believe there's no strike 'cause in there but I mean certainly if it I think it's up in two years two and a half years I don't think anybody's all that interested in continuing this fight and what's happening right now and sort of the general general disrespect and fatty feelings and it we have do you think it's disrespect to these players yeah very much so I mean to sit at negotiation table across from someone who say well market realities and it's like pretty condescending yeah yeah so. What is your best argument? Yeah I mean it's just yeah. It's just rude right especially early because we are making money right so I'm like if you just invest more than we can make more money than everyone can make more money more money right right. Everybody wants money. I don't understand all right. Let's talk about that. What is what what are you going to do next? Are you gonNA play in the next World Cup. I do not know yet. <hes> I'm for sure GONNA go through next summer. which is the Olympics in Tokyo and kind of assess after that <hes> I've said for a long time and we'll still say I wanNA play as long long is I'm able and as long as I can and I'm enjoying it? <hes> the yeah we'll see what does that mean physically as I like if I can like keep going and keep at the level it's it's very I mean I'm thirty four now. I'll be thirty five of next summer. It's very physically demanding. The game is and it's soccer sort of one of those sports. You can't really cheat around being old. There's no way to kind of like get smarter right away. Smarter physically get a little. L._S. right all right you can lose a little bit right. It's it's difficult to stay at that level. Do you know they're working on body replacement stuff in Silicon Valley now diner out me either but neural networks the by is podcast with Joe Rogan was so wild yeah. Listen to thank you. I was like the whole time I was like window. I order my chip right. That'd be great. What would you do with chip? I don't know what can you do with anything. Speak French for anything. That would be great all right way more quickly Google things like that. I mean it's tariff but do you would. Would you wanNA keep playing if you could do stuff like that. It's a lot it's a grind. There's a lot of like a lot of days in the hotel right a lot of time away from friends and family a lot of time not being able to do you put everything on hold while you're doing. He can't really dive into any other interests that you have sort of fully. It's kind of like groundhog's Day. It's not like the worst day but especially getting older. It's not as you know emotionally intellectually stimulating as is <hes>. I think an adult needs at times. So what else do you want to do. Good question started the company this year with this clothing yeah explain them to my teammates and one of our former teammates called. It's called rinky-dink re INC so right. Now we're in clothing. It's more like a lifestyle brand kind of like a higher end lifestyle brand. We want to shave down as what what are you trying to do. It's different than under armor. You're with nights sports closing at all. It's fashion brand okay so we want to sort of break out of what's the two second elevator pitch clothing that yeah the elevator pitches that it's coming from women who WanNa shake up the status quo we definitely want to not just diversity inclusion all that for the reasons but we really want to bring our message in our style. We feel like we've been putting such box with women's sports in particular uh of either. You're like you know sort of girl next door. If you're like Alex New beautiful or you're listening to the gay one even even when you're alternative it's like Oh that's gay political one this. Is this one right right. I feel sort of boxed in in a lot of ways. I never really get to bring our full sell what to look at the close. It'll be like head to toe sweat suit. I one very cool. We'll have sort of we WANNA kinda. Give like a not necessarily gender-neutral because that's also a very specific look but sort of like a pallet so we'll have hoodies sweatshirts and crop tops and bike shorts shorts and tights and sweats right like you get to pick sort of what you want and sometimes you're just not necessarily. You're chugging gender neutral. What does that mean I mean because is it androgynous or what are you going for? <hes> we don't really like to say gender neutral or Androgynous because I feel like that's a very specific diffic- that's just kind of like sort of look like a boy a little bit yeah. That's what androgen any means but like I think the full sweatsuit will provide you the option that if maybe one day you WanNa look a little bit more boys. You can't one day you WanNa look a bit more girls. You can't win if you want to match mix and match then you can we sort of give you the template. The clothes has all the template and then you get to decide how you're feeling on that day so why fashion. What did you decide to do that? Fashion Okay big big fan of fashion for me. It's like the main way that I express myself. I mean obviously my big mouth that helps but the other way. It's like you have to get up and get dressed every morning. I think closer just something that makes me feel good and really like expresses. How I'm feeling from day to day like changes ages like dramatically as I'm like I only wear black hello and then I mean yeah and then I'm like I'm in a neons wetsuit the next all kinds of crazy things but I were black because it matches it does yeah yeah gray astor's color? Someone told me but it's not it's a shame but is the best color so you so. What else do you want to do? What else do you need and then where he had some questions from the audience? What else do you think you WANNA do? We're GONNA see yourself in ten years. Oh I don't know probably in New York City doing something I definitely want to stay connected to soccer in some way hopefully continuing to use my voice to push things lawn. I can't imagine we'll be in the place. We Wanna be even in ten years. I don't don't know to be honest. Do you have any for me. I have many there's so many there's so many running for office. Now seems like a lot of responsibility a lot of like but it's such a low bar now but do I have been saying. Are you gonNA run for President and I'm like I'm wildly unqualified. They're like yeah okay. It's totally fine yeah exactly no one cares what about in Seattle. I got a couple of text from people in Seattle saying they wished you would run for something there. What I mean I think for now everything's about getting involved in more local Seattle politics not necessarily running but we have homeless problems here and she's extremely well informed yeah? Apparently you're extremely well informed you don't want to you don't think politics is for you. I don't think it's not for me but I'm not sure political offices for me. I think I'm at least at this point I mean I'm very political. I want always stay informed and stay involved in be involved in whatever way I can throw whatever weight this is due rank yourself as an activist or no yeah yeah yeah definitely for lots of everything everything that's messed up right now right what would be on the top of that that list so many choose so many unfortunately I mean immigration obviously right. Now I think is an extremely pressing issue what's happening at the southern border <hes> our prison system and <hes> mass incarceration. I mean it's like once you get into one thing. It's everything it's all the same sort of thing who is an inspiration for you then. I mean that piece in in E._S._P._N.. Magazine about your brothers became incarceration. Nation was astonishing. That was an astonishing American family. It was a really interesting story not just about you but about your brother who's incarcerated. Your mom seemed to me to be the hero this story amazing. Can you talk about that a little bit what what is when and yet when that you obviously live the life but not people didn't know that about you yeah I mean I think growing up that way really helped sort of shape my worldview coming from a normal family especially as got an older and on the national team some level fame and I was never <hes> trying to hide that I always pretty openly about that but it was just you're you're sort of normal quintessential family in an era when on opioids were given out like candy and just to see to see him in particular he's so wonderful and he has a similar disposition. Were we're actually very similar often see his face in the mirror. It's really weird like right here little lines <hes> but I think to see how wonderful he isn't just to see the way that he was just swept up in the system white nationalism everything yeah and to take just as normal kid and you know all he probably just needed drug Rehab and some some support like that and instead yeah he's swept up in the prison system and he's in Pelican Bay these getting swastika tattoos and these part of iron brotherhood and feeling like he has to be violent to be important in prison and just this whole kind of course of his life and then him sort of coming through it and realizing like you know I'm in I'm in prison for the same reason that kind of everyone else's in a lot of as everyone who's sorta swept up probably should have not even been arrested in the first place right <hes> I think he just realized so much of the bigger issue and I think you know growing up having that perspective and as I got older and started to understand their sexuality and realizing realizing what all of those things mean race relations and mass incarceration and you know the drug problems and all of that. It's just like everything is connected for Yep so while I'm not a person of color I can understand <hes> how mass incarceration affects everybody and I understand that the greater sort of impact of it and how it's not one individual that is the issue. It's the whole system with which we live in and how it negatively affects everyone except you know coke brothers or something just them. You know it's like a few people project are excluded but really it's like. The rest of us are just sort of at the mercy of the system. That's not really working at full capacity for anyone. Where did you find the strength to like when I read that I thought that especially the white nationalism I don't think I could speak to my brother voted for trump and I'm still talking to them so like yeah yeah I have? I'm from <hes> trump country redding California that's right. It's very conservative family members but you your whole family showed a lot of kindness to him through very difficult period that that was really quite remarkable. Yeah I mean we were horrified. Like what the Hell is that hitting because we knew that he it's that's Ni- he wasn't you know especially because every time you would come out of prison that was kind of to the wayside drug addicts looking for heroin basically so we knew that and I think we all understood that you know there's certain life in prison that he was living that maybe he felt like he had to live and I think he also found power in that he can be sort of some bad ass kind of person but I think we all sort of understood that there was just such larger picture happening here right right and so and I mean I don't know we have a very big loving family. We're all Kooky and crazy and there's a million things happening. It's like I mean he's. He's like you know major issue issue in failing but other stuff going on to Debbie terrier knows that but this okay family feel about all this they they must be thrilled yeah. They're thrilled. They're worried about me. Of course I think especially after the <hes> the tweets there's some kind of crazy members in trump's base so I think there have you gotten honorary member of the squad. Now I hope so goals okay yeah that would be amazing. I think that the there so proud of me though I think that they always just want me to you know for my message to be with love and about unity and sometimes I'm like well. That's not really what we need in the moment but sometimes that is has and I think it's really amazing because it's forced us all to have really hard conversation. I mean the kneeling thing was like Oh God. The family was just what did they shook by the kneeling. I mean this people don't know you you Neil alongside Colin Kaepernick and yeah I mean they very you know confronting of family and military members in our family and just in general pretty conservative family so to actually be able to have those conversations about what it what it really means what I was doing it for sort of the bigger picture of it was just an you know an incredible. I Guess Silver Lining of all the negativity so let me US less fishing than to do that. Takes a lot to put your arms out takes a lot to do all these things beer with spy a lot of people obviously what is your inspiration. What keeps you replenished yes? It's a very cinema word why why just red wine really <hes>. My mom is huge inspiration for me. She grew up. She's one of eight it second surveys of she kind of help raise her family. Both parents alcoholics died very young <hes> grew up dirt poured and have anything and I think just from an early age she kind of instilled in us like you just never ever know where anyone comes from. You never know their store. You never know what they're going through. Know what my mom. She's cute but yeah just to just to have that sort of empathy and it's it's not enough just to be like Oh. That's you know that person like you. You have a responsibility to do something into extend yourself further beyond you know what's important to you so I think with all of the activism and everything I think like at the heart of it really where it comes from is like we all live in this world together. We all sort of have some sort of responsibility whatever it may be not everybody is famous or not. Everybody is you who has bought from that you do but you know everybody has family and friends and people that they work with and like you know. Everybody can do something so I think that's you know that I realized that I I left out. Your partner sue bird. Who's epoch is an attic F._A.? Now I'm so unimpressive it. It's like I think it was van Jones the other night he was like reading off all the accomplishments right and it would be like you know you know five gold medals who has more like all these w may chairmanships none all these N._C._A._a.'s championships championships all these everything championship when like yeah good job yeah yeah you're quite a pair. Her Essay about knowing about you was was best piece of writing out of the entire thing. How do you guys interact together? I mean you're now how the famous lesbian couple right yeah yeah yeah past Allen and Porsche Yeah Yeah move over of yeah you know we've only been able to spend a few days. Get along better yeah. We're we're actually in the process of navigating. I think we're both trying to figure out sort of where we land. Obviously we're used to being not this level of famous but some sort of famous and <hes> we're both you know pretty low key very very supportive of each other. It's not really competition because she's has like ten times the more impressive career than idea so just we just know that <hes> but yeah we're kind of trying to figure out sort of what it all means in are you. Are you married correct or no no. Are you going to get married. I don't know I was asking the dam like this because she's like never talked about marriage before. She's like I thought she didn't want to. I'm like <hes> feeling romantic. I don't know <hes>. Is there like from societal standpoint. I'm like I don't need to get married like you know it's just a lot but then just her nine her so we're GonNa take another break now. We'll be back after this with Meghan re piano the CO captain of the U._S. National Women's soccer team and frankly about s hello does Klein co-founder and editor at large box and host of the as upon show podcast this show we're trying to get big thinkers big names to reflect a bit on the hard questions their work poses in public so we talked to mark Zuckerberg about whether he can govern facebook whether facebook is even governable with the community of more than two billion people all around the world in every different country you know how can you set up a more democratic or community oriented process to Elizabeth Warren about what her plans to pass all these ambitious plans. She's got going straight up the middle on the corruption plans the first one dot com back and while they're all scrambling then start passing the rest up to see Abrahams about how she approaches identity. Identity politics and what she thinks that really means the phrase identity politics is a weaponization of Democrats structural advantage and elections from now into eternity his client show for free on apple podcasts when your favorite podcast apt hello listener I'm Sean Rama's firm host of today explained Vox Daily News podcast every day Monday through Friday my team and I look at what's happening in the world we pick one essential news story that defines our moment and asks smart people to help us understand it in about twenty minutes or less. It's the perfect way to start her and your day subscribed today explained for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP it's from stitcher and the VOX media podcast network questions from the audience and Mega Pino questions. We're going to start with these young people. I'll hear you all have good questions I hope and then we'll get some people in the audience to K so get ready magazines tough ones. I know ahead heavy hitter always got these bringing the iphone. Oh No oh wow compare oh so orbs all right. Go ahead as best women's soccer player will it would be your advice forty kids who to grow up and be like you career. Oh goodness. We're GONNA get some bleach instant pink hair dye start there. I would say that there's two most important things to always believe Wean yourself always have that confidence in yourself so then other people know how they should treat you and know that they can have confidence in eastern. Always you know stand up with your big chest out <hes> and always have fun. I always have fun when I play okay. I think that's the most important thing I really enjoy what I do on the field <hes> and I think when I have a frown on my face then I'm not reaching my full potential to always try to enjoy those moments and realize that it's it's a game and it should be fun all right next question another okay just want to make sure this okay go ahead. Quick uses it up table in the White House. What can we do send up against bullying everyday? Oh that's a good one. I think with bullies they're really insecure and they're sad in their own right so I try to stay away from name calling but also stick up for the people that they're trying to bully and realize that you have the strength within you because you have the positivity and that's powerful and I think that when someone's bullying they're coming from a place of negativity and and that doesn't give you power that makes you smaller all right. I'm just going to put it out there. <hes> Swisher re piano twenty twenty. He that'd be at the top of the checkout would be like the one in the back actually actually doing stuff yeah. I have a different advice I think he popped the bully right yeah being a woman in technology and and kind of fighting the same battle you are how do you see resilient and positive and not letting get to you because it is hard to fix that every single day it is very frustrating and very hard I mean I think a good shower. Rant is always good just like give it to them. You know everything you can't say big believer in the personal. What are you saying in the shower then now just like I would say seek out other women obviously were very lucky to be around twenty three other women who are going through the same thing at the same time not everyone has that luxury but I think a lot of times what's hard is like you start to question ocean and doubt yourself and your like is should? I really be paid this much and just like get a girl. Next is like hell yeah you deserve an more <hes> but just to have that sort of support system. I think is really important. And what about you not on a team all women I know then you have to seek it out. I think that I don't know companies like the wing something like that or I don't know if there's like message boards or just other women at work and kind of be really I think open about it as well. I think you know part of what the sort of they want is for you to keep it in feel small about it. So I mean even seeking out you know other men and just talking about more and just constantly I guess not hiding those feelings and not hiding the things that are that are happening to you not taking them all on yourself in sort of build that support system that way another question do about five hi. I've in a fan of yours for years in your <hes> but I wanted to know as someone who lives in California and his follow the U._S. Women's national team for years. How how do Californian support the women's team when there's no team in California? How do you support them? You can buy season tickets for other teams giving away or something. I mean there's games on T._V.. Now that you can can watch before that you can stream games <hes> you can buy merchandise you can obviously come to the national team games if you can and I think just talking about it and spreading the word and get people to either watch games with you or just sort of letting them know that it's happening yeah. I think that's probably the best way even just so to watch the Games and to make sure everyone around you as watching them. I think it's very helpful right another question right here. The kids ask the question about the bully in the White House so for better or worse. I just wanted to go there for a second and as observers and as marketers I'm interested in understanding a little bit about the anatomy you're in a very interesting spy like with the squad and with Gold Star families. Emily is where all of that attention has been fixed on you at some point and I'm curious at a huge bang and then it goes away or do you feel like you're management. Team is still fielding questions and and opportunities and negatives at the same point. Maybe there in the back the how does that work and is there a big long tail and all of that it. Did you worry about Neil. You obviously don't worry about it. You know didn't tell anyone. I was kneeling should have they. We're like okay well. This is the thing to be honest. I think the kneeling taught me so much about being in this moment now. I'm extremely thankful for all that I went through. I think the negativity is so much less than it feels like I mean even with the the president tweeting amount of people that then came up to me or supported me or on twitter whatever after that was just far succeeded anything of of the negative and I think sometimes twitter in particular because it's just comments all the time you get some crazy common. You're like Oh my God. That's insane you know in the person's like four followers and like you know is following four people bowl. It's like this is not rush limbaugh yeah exactly it's like not even a real sort of thing so I actually don't even I don't really care about just this sort of explicit negatively. I don't look get comments or anything like that. If you have like the other side that you WanNa talk about then I'm totally interested in that and willing to have that conversation but I don't even really like look at all the negativity. I think there's so much more support people willing to have a genuine conversation about things in there. Is that like no one ever come up to me ever instead one negative thing like ever it's all like and maybe that's just it's easier to come up and say I love you then to have a conversation precision or people are not shied these days to say negative things people. Just yeah never yeah I I haven't I haven't had that I mean even in my own family. I think the way that they approach it was more like let's have a conversation because we're sort of interested about this. Even know holy disagree with what you're doing. In terms of this moment I think we're still sort of in the the bang and we're kind of waiting for the dust to settle and we'll see where all that is. My inbox is out of control. My computer broke. I don't know what uh-huh been trying to do it on my phone all up to like get to the inbox but the management team is is very much on it and fielding all of the increase in questions but you don't think it has a negative. You're just keep doing it. I'm guessing right. It seems to be working yeah okay. I don't think it has a negative there was actually a significant drop off in. I have a business with my sister's. Well we do camps clinics and have a small clothing line. I mean there was like a a day the day before and then the day after the kneeling was dramatically different. The sales at our clinics was dramatically different. <hes> I felt like sponsorship opportunities. I didn't get dropped by any sponsors but really have any like didn't get any new ones either like home. That's interesting and even on the national team. I didn't you know from basically from the last time I need. It was like in October yeah. I think I didn't roster again until the rule was made that I had to stand so to. This kneeling was worse than the trump tweets. Oh yeah the trump tweets was like made me famous right. I'm like thanks Donald Donald. Do you ever expect to meet him. What would you say no? I will not have that McDonald's <hes>. I don't know what I would say. I I mean I suppose I would just tell them why I think is messages so harmful and how it's harming people and how it's excluding people. I think I said the Sun Anderson Cooper <hes> really put me on the spot by the way I was like. Dang Anderson is hard one but just how harmful but I don't. I don't know if he's open to listening really to anything so that's that's why I'm not interesting. Go into the White House. I'm not interested in having any sort of conversation. I'm not interested in saying all if you do this for us and we'll come to the White House. I don't think he's interested in hearing what anyone has to say really <hes> other than than himself and and yeah just does anyone. I don't think even the base. I don't think what they say either. He's just doing whatever he wants to do. Okay next we have one last question when less vicious thank you hello if three daughters and I will tell you my oldest ten year old daughter almost wrote her bike from Boston to California when she heard you're coming so this is from her as she wants to know about your role as <hes> captain and how how do you hold the power of that role when you have so many rockstars on your team yeah that is an interesting one. I think I think my leadership style is sort of a mix of like extroverted and introverted. I tried to first first and foremost sort of set the example that I want everyone to follow and I think with that comes a little bit of edginess too. I think you know I'm not the kind of person that's like. You know I'm like you know occasionally late and like you know I don't like wearing all the same things all the times I feel like I have this lightness about it that allows other people to feel as if they can be themselves as well within the sort of concept of not doing anything that's explicitly harmful harmful to the team or to the other players or whatever and then I think as an older player just trying to sort of pass on experiences to the younger players and also you know look out for them. <hes> it's been a tough cycle a really tough cycles are emotionally and mentally psychologically for everyone so having been through that and sort of being a little bit more equipped to deal with that in the pressures of what it means to be on the national team and trying to make rosters just trying to keep an eye on everyone almost like they're like my little kids but also like let them be free and sort of empower them in that way and then for the older ones I mean I think you just have to be really honest and a little direct which can be uncomfortable at times but I think that we all have a good level of respect for each other. Not everyone's best friend you don't have to be but I think everyone has the right amount of respect for each other we can and be really honest and if someone needs to come up and say something to me or vice versa than we sort of have that but yeah I try to take on as much as I can personally. I think for the team because I think I'm good at handling a lot in that way especially when we got to the World Cup and media and all of that like I'd rather have it beyond me and I can you know sort of deflect in the in the ways that I've become good at in sort of let the kids just enjoy it all right. I missed the various pushing asked us some every entrepreneur and I I think you are an entrepreneur and a lot of ways <hes> what is one mistake you made whether in sports life wherever and what you learn from it and then what is the one thing you think you do the best Gosh I never make mistakes my answer to that but go ahead <hes> yeah. I don't really look I don't have regrets. I guess are different than yeah. We'll take you can do regrets. I don't have any regrets that's good. I guess with the with the kneeling. Maybe if I was a little bit more her payer but I don't think it could have really been prepared for that. I don't think I was naive but but it it's just hard to be prepared. I don't know I don't feel like I've made I mean certainly made mistakes but I don't really regret any of them. Thing I do best I think I disarmed people very well. Oh and so then I can talk about the things that I wanna talk about <hes> and then I think are important and sort of bring them in. I think I make people feel comfortable and relaxed. Meghan re Pino everybody. Thank you Meghan for coming on the show. You can follow me on twitter at Tara Swisher. My Executive Producer Eric Anderson is at Eric America. My producer Eric Johnson is at hey. Hey E._S.. Jay If you like this episode and if you didn't I don't know what's wrong with you. 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Olympians Megan Rapinoe and Ibtihaj Muhammad on Using Your Platform to Stand Up for Equality

Blazing Trails

47:09 min | 10 months ago

Olympians Megan Rapinoe and Ibtihaj Muhammad on Using Your Platform to Stand Up for Equality

"From salesforce studios this is blazing trails. Welcome to blazing trails. I'm Laura Woods from the salesforce blog. I am so excited to share today's conversation with to cultural icons who are changing the world. Both in their sports and in their larger Communities Megan Piano and empty Haji Mohammad. Megan helped lead the. Us Women's soccer team to two thousand. Fifteen and two thousand nineteen victories at the FIFA women's World Cup and empty was the first Muslim American woman to earn an Olympic medal. While wearing her hijab both women have used their platforms as star athletes to stand up for equality and today they talk about how to bring your full authentic self into everything you do and how an ally for equality plays a significant role but before we get to that conversation with these amazing women. A word about wordpress. Vip who is making this show possible wordpress VIP is the digital publishing solution. That powers the world's top media companies as well as marketing platforms for some of the best known brands like time facebook later on in this episode. You'll hear more of our conversation with their CEO. Nick Gerner and now. Let's have a listen to Megan and fifty hajj speaking with Sioux Chief People Officer at time. Please welcome champions on and off the field if d Hajj Muhammad and Meghan ripping now just like the Olympics. Right here hearing this is basically. What is basically what it's like. I'm actually super psyched. That we're here at something called dream force because it really is. You're the personification of the force of your dreams really creating the reality that you've made for yourself the progress that you've helped forward how you've shown up and the And the winds and the victories both on and off the field. So I'd love to hear a little bit more about how that all got started. Supercharged start with you. How did how did the fencing journey begins? I grew up in New Jersey outside every from Jersey. Saturday exciting well. There's a lot of very excited about thirty minutes. Outside of New York City Maplewood New Jersey and our family. My parents just really push this idea of sports. We didn't have much of a choice. It was like which do you want to play and as a Muslim kid who would eventually wear job. It was really difficult. This idea of uniform for me when we think of the uniform and what that means There's this idea of unity kind of creates this family like bond and for me as a kid. I didn't have that because it was always adding something to it to make it more modest. Yeah and at twelve. I discovered fencing. I was at a stop light and my mom and I saw fencing in a school cafeteria. My Mom said don't know what that is but I want you to try it out and the rest is history. I really enjoy the Olympics. After that. That's what normally happens when I go to the grocery store as well it's amazing and what about what about what your moms' saw in the window said. I'm going to find out more about that. Well she probably got tired of going to the sporting goods store to add stuff but it was really this unique opportunity for me as a young athlete to participate in a sport that uniquely accommodated religious beliefs and it was the first time. I really felt a part of a team. I was twelve when I started fencing and I didn't know that there would be opportunity for me in sport where people didn't see me for being African American or didn't see me for being Muslim are didn't see me for being a girl it was really just about. Could you win and so my mass once I put my mask on I kind of felt like a superhero in a bit? Like in a way because it was really like. How hard can you work in? Can you win in Megan? How about you take it all the way back all the way back. We're going all the way back I think the catalysts. I'm one of six kids twin and where the youngest The brother Above US is five years older so I think probably as a babysitting mechanism. We were dragged everywhere One of the places we were dragged was soccer fields. My older brother played Brian. So I think you know having a built in buddy right on the side where my mom could just be like. Do her thing over there Brothers practicing and we kind of fell in love with it from there And then obviously progress from there but I think it was just being able to play kind of having that freedom and having someone you could actually play with Kind of was the catalyst of of loving the game. I guess so. Both of you have spoken So powerfully about team and what that means and how you show up for each other Including once here there really is can you in versus what you look like. And where do you come from? How do you in a world in which we have this amazing opportunity to stand up for things we believe in? How do you balance both being seen for who you are? And what you're proud of as well as stepping on that field letting go and letting the actions speak for themselves. I don't really try to balance it. Yeah I love it. Yeah I don't think you need to like it's funny. You talk about the idea of a uniform and like I always. Hey Uniform Jolly Guy Nike but like I hate the idea of you know the thought of Twenty people all wearing the exact same thing at the same time in the same way in like they never want modifications like the way the people or whatever in like why can't you bring your own personal style to it and just like express yourself in some sort of uniformity but just express yourself in the way that you want to or that you see fit and I think I take that to your question. I don't really try to balance. It all obviously have to wear a uniform over out there and you are part of a team but I think for us at least on the national team. We would much prefer everybody's personalities to be out there front and center understanding that when we let everyone free in let everyone just be themselves and that's how we get the best out of the team so I I don't really think about like. Oh now I'm on the field or now I'm doing a speech or now I'm here or whatever I'd probably lose track and do something wrong so I figured I'd just it's all the same thing to me. You're just representing yourself. You representing your country your authentic and you're coming from that place all the time then. It really doesn't matter. What space urine or or where? You're you just get to live. I think that it's the opportunity that exists to just kind of go out there. You show up you bring whatever. Your best attribute is to the to the field of play and I think that that's one of the to me. That's a highlight of being part of a team right. You can especially like in my sport. Where we're we're facing these three other people and there's just three of us on the team refacing athletes and you're going to have an easier time with some countries or some athletes versus others. But I'm you always show up for one another and if you have like and as we know Sports Happen. Absent flows in. You may have like a down moment. you may not have the best day but maybe your team shows up that day and it's not about like you said where you're from or this identity that you necessarily bring to the field of play and I feel like if you for me if I did. Bring that with me all the time. It almost feel like a weight and we'd have to carry around. I think that sports gives me the opportunity to just go out there. And and I don't know live my best life through expressing myself. I guess with a weapon in my hand right. You are a superhero. It's interesting I mean I. It's incredibly inspiring to hear how you stand up and bring your fullest self and that's what it's all about and I think for those of us are those who might be in. The audience are watching. Who may not have that courage or might be scared. I remember growing up as a little kid. having that same feeling Having been told by other people of Color Asians don't really count or like you are. How do you? What kind of advice would you give to children growing for seeing you and seeing how you're showing up in the world how? How amazing that they have this moment to be able to watch that? What what kind of advice would you give to them? I mean I. I live for Megan during the World Cup as like. Oh you know what I think to me like. The highlight was just to see this expression of unapologetic self. Yeah and it's such a freeing thing to make this decision that I don't care what you think I don't care what you think. I don't care what you think like this is who I am. You can accept it or you cannot but actually we don't care and I feel like that was something that for me. I had the switch as a kid because I was bullied and I was so often made to feel like a square fitting encircle spaces for a multitude of reasons sometimes about my skin. Sometimes it's about my job and I was just like you know what this is ridiculous. I'm just GONNA I'm GonNa be myself and I actually don't care what you think and I this is. Why lift for you during the World Cup? I mean in general but also people. I just love the idea. People just going out there actually. This is who I am and we don't need you to like it. Yeah that's okay. Yeah love it and I think and you talk about being allies and we you know we just saw that wonderful video and I think we've got amazing allies in the audience. Both from all over the world I think the cool Hana is here and I think we have faith for is also here the world on a great job about building those communities and really helping everyone support each other. And what does that look like for you off the field? Do people ask you those questions. Something we think about is now that you've had success. People are always reaching out to you wanting wanting a little bit of view. And what does that? What does that feel like in terms of asking people to show up for each other? How do you pay that forward in a way that empowers everyone to actually show up for others? How does that look like for you? I think just touching a little bit on what he was saying about kind of not caring and I think it's. It's easier to do that when you're in the majority group. I think it's easier for me to do that in ways. I'm not constantly being harassed about my job or my skin color. Whatever it may be and I think four people in the majority group like I was watching the video and it just kind of struck me because we always say like. Oh you know you can't understand someone's someone else's perspective but it's like you know what I think you. Kinda hand like you just believe the person that's saying you know it's like it's like. I don't need to like where you know his job or to understand exactly what it's like to be Muslim or a person of color to just be like whatever cool I got you and then I'll stick up for you and all of these other spaces where maybe you aren't in or you don't have access to or these. Are The people that are bullying you like. That's our job as an ally as a person in the majority in some sort of way is kinda like collect incorrect our own people and to signal to people you know maybe are different or whatever. It's like you're actually not that different like I don't need to you personally. Understand it to the degree to understand it into validated. And just be like cool. I got you and now we're just humans so I feel like that's the way I show up as an ally is to listen and actually believe what people are saying. Because I always feel like if you're not totally down with it or you can't understand the perspective on my well. They told you so you either did it. Listen or you don't believe it or you're not validating and those things from me are just really easy things if I believe if d then then I do understand and I can have that empathy and then I can change my behavior and change the behavior of people around me in signal to other people like this is how we're going to interact together and this is how we're going to treat each other so. I feel like being a white person is like we just need to like signal to not only people who maybe different way but also to ourselves into the people around us like this is how this is going to go down any other way and thinking about representation. How we show up for each other. Both of you done a lot off the field and recently congratulations again on the clothing line. That U s week and we got a call up in the mix. We've got an you've had a clothesline for a couple of years now. Luella and rink with. We're announcing today that. We're GONNA do a collaboration right here. I there's going to be a collaborative Olympic. It's all happening. And so but tell me why. What did it mean for you to choose? Clothing mean for you to choose something. That's so personal and representative of how you show up everyday. Well I feel I always. I think been bit of a problem solver and I have no background in clothing or business or anything like that but I knew that there is a void within the modest fashion community. If you wanted to find a long sleeve floor-length dress here in the United States so you are offered often ordering it from overseas paying exorbitant shipping fees. Whatever if you did find companies here. There were things that were a bit dowdy or dark. Maybe something your grandma would wear not fashionable and that's where Luella comes and we may factor everything here in the United States that we work with FEMA manufacturers that employee women We feel like we're conscious clothing. Line at the same time And we will try to keep everything super affordable but also fashionable and again modest so I feel like it was providing something to a community that I that. I'm a part of like as a kid. I didn't have the opportunity to buy a close like this. It was really hard to find. I was always layering these really cheap stores and fast fashion and I just wanted to be part of the change. It's all go like representation right. Everybody always says representation but like what does that actually mean that means like not being able to find something cute because no one thought of it because no one's in the room so we kind of had the same sort of feeling like we've you know reading we'll start and clothing and hopefully branch off too many things but we're kind of like why can't I find a dope. Has It actually fit me like? I don't fit men's extra small this wide and my shoulders are not this wise like trying to represent something in the culture and in clothing. It's something that every one of the things that every single person pretty much on this planet does every day get dressed. I feel like it's a big stressor for a lot of people who don't fit into this like perfectly binary world and for us. It's like we don't want to be this androgynous bran that just means looking like a lesbian. That's just like looking like a boy lesbian gay so it's like even though like androgynous is trying to be all inclusive. You're not inclusive. You just like slept on drowsiness on smaller. Men's clothes. How do we actually design something? If I could laugh I was like should I laugh? Just call it. Let's just call it what it is like? You know it's pretty simple. It doesn't still doesn't fit anyone work so like yeah. How do we have? You probably feel the same way but we definitely felt this story in our company like we just never felt like we were really fully representative. There's always through someone else's lens so it's not always a bad thing. Oftentimes it's mutually beneficial. But whether it's Nike and the clothes we wear for Nike or the way we're represented an ad campaign or the brand ideas or whatever it is we kinda just got to the point. Where like yeah? We can do this better like we actually know exactly how we feel. We know for us. What's missing in the market? And we feel like why not us? Just give it a chance. We have a chance anybody else doing it. We might as well use the experience that we have and the perspective that we have to do something for ourselves that we feel like other people are feeling as well. How's the reaction been glowing? Yeah we think great people seem to be really into it. The stuff is actually really nice. Like on the hand. It's well constructed for our first. Like major drop where we're pretty excited but there's of course like a million things that we see when we look at a really everything's fine overall. We're really happy with the way everything came out of the way things fit on different body types and different genders and all that. So we're we're so proud and so happy that it's actually like a living thing in the world awesome and to go back to everyone wearing the same uniform on the field. The same tells you about the World Cup. I had to do pin care to get out of the uniform. Like change it up. The World Cup was insane. I mean just obviously. The soccer part of it was great. We did the thing we're supposed to do. We one yeah to be able to transcend so far past. The sport is the best part of it. I feel like we gave people a vehicle and an inspiration motivation to talk about these things that people want to talk about and sometimes it's just really hard. You're the only woman in the office or one of the few or whatever and you're gonNA bring equal pay me like. Hey Hi it's me again and now you have this kind of fun way to bring things up and I think that we sort of showed people away forward in a path forward in this time that's divisive to say the least a way to express exactly how you feel what you stand for and who you're with without it being this really negative name. Kali kind of thing. We can leave that to other people but for us. It's like this is what we're about. This is who we are. This is who we stand with and we're proud of that and also we're awesome when we did the thing so we're going to go hard. Were there I was on? How is that well? I wasn't going to miss a chance to see us. I knew we. We have the same management team so I was like. Oh I'm going away. She it was fun to watch it in person. I mean it's one thing to see it unfold through the news or watch it on television but to be out there in support especially just like Olympic teammates and share and a lot of the journey. You know to be an ally like Megan said to to show up for them whether that be it using your social platforms or even physically be there but I support everything that the women's team stood for in that moment and I think that Megan's so sweet like we which is awesome because it's a team but I feel like she really spearheaded this idea of like beyond politics and like stand up for communities that are often go unheard men. I appreciate so much of the work that you did during the World Cup and even the things that you do now clearly fan also but I mean I I'm I mean obviously like rambling at this point but I feel like it means so much it really does and I think especially for us this female athletes. I think that oftentimes our ideas and the things that we stand for don't aren't as often heard as they are when they come from male athletes. So I don't know I'm just here for Megan today we're GonNa take a quick break now and bring you a conversation with the CEO of wordpress VIP. Nick Ernhert wordpress. Vip is the leading provider of enterprise wordpress and they power companies like facebook spotify and others. My colleague Matt Jaffe Sat Down With Nick. Dream for us to discuss how his company is grappling with topics like the future of work and digital transformation. Salesforce we talk a lot here about our core values. Customer Success Trust Innovation Equality. What are your core values at wordpress VIP and Hetty you guys put them into action. Had you lived those values every day cash. It's a great question the So the values that we hold at VIP are really sort of they. All sort of stemming from where wordpress comes from in sort of an open source in the open source community and things we think about that we hold close and in values are transparency in our work. And what we provide so just quarter who we are sharing and being open about. How's the software work at a? We work as an organization. Like there's really want you to feel as comfortable about our operations about how we work as as you could be in this and for us it is a fundamental element of trust that if we go back to even the open source software. This is suffer this developed in the open and anyone can contribute to. Anyone can see how it works and you should be able to do that. There's real freedom and being able to do that because corner what we want out of folks to. Is this idea that you can really own your customer experiences in an enterprise context. It's always. There's a real tension around vendor lock in. There's a bad history of thinking about vendor lock in and I would love to do something better but I'm kind of in this thing now and I can't and vendor lock in being what vendor lock in meaning I've put a critical part of my businesses operations in one piece of software and there's not really an easy you know there's not an easy way to extract myself stuck that either stuck in that proprietary software or I'm stuck with a small group of of engineers that actually know how it works. Think back to Cap Gemini and four people understand how this thing works I get stuck in a platformer and technology. I'm no flexibility. No Room to maneuver out of there so corredor values is just like okay. We want them we want. We want to open that up like we WANNA come at the model in a way. That says like you're working with this because it is the best thing for your your company for for your needs and if it wasn't like well you have access to your data. You have access to everything that you can understand about this platform and what you've trusted it with can find other ways to do that. Should you want to do that? And that's I think critical to building sustainable relationships as an organization we're fully distributed so our workforce is kind of everywhere we have no central office Animal hundred people twelve hundred over the world all over the world no HQ every time zone no HQ HQ is your home. But Yeah Florida. I work out of my home in Florida. Everyone's Kinda got their thing here. We've we have one member of my team move lives in the Maldives and it's just like we keep trying to figure whoever that is the right idea. Got The winning winning winning distributed work quarter. Those values are really. You know what we think about is like opportunity is it's just not evenly distributed but talent really is and so we're able to really open up to a much bigger part of the population and say we've got some really interesting things that typically like you can do with technology that might typically be reserved for folks that live in major metropolitan areas and you'd have to live in one of those areas to really be able to benefit from from working narran. We're saying like now live in the Maldives and open up opportunities for folks that may have otherwise just not had those opportunities to do this sorts of things and so that helps us build a more. Diverse workforce brings better work for a workforce into this in our in the way we see it and we're able to it's through those diverse perspectives. It's through that open line of communication that transparency that like our product just benefit from this. Our customers can benefit from this. Because it's not it's not this homogenized sort of view on something that you're getting from one set of people in market it's it's just this global view on On the software that we're seeing so it's just really kind of core to who we are and In in our values that was nick garnered the CEO of wordpress VIP if you WANNA find out more visit WP VIP DOT COM and. Let's get you back to Megan an empty hauch. You've also done pretty well tell me how was the Olympic experience for you? It was interesting learning about second chances but like your first junior Olympic experience did. Are you taking it though? I'll totally we're to all of that but it was but it was it wasn't it wasn't what you had hoped for right and then to see that road and get to the Olympics. And what was that experience like for you? How far back? You're going Jim or if you met like I failed to qualify for my first Olympic team. So that was also a mess but to I mean the Olympics. Jimmy still feels like it was yesterday. I can't believe we're on the heels of the next Olympic Games. I mean there's still a pinch me moment in my life. It was something I worked really hard for. And I'm assuming that you read my book from what you're saying I am. I just document a lot of the really difficult moments as an athlete particularly as an athlete of color on the US fencing team where it was a struggle and so two you have the opportunity to represent the United States at the at the pinnacle of sport was really the highlight of my life. And I know that I wouldn't be there without being resilient and I feel like it's important to us our platforms to kind of share these stories in the insurance that are not as unique as we think. You know. It's it's something that I feel like happened because I worked hard but I share my story because I want especially to know that you can have a similar story a path of Success. If you kind of ignore the people around you and you just do your own thing and it's interesting if we think about the people around you and the courage to be like you know what. I don't care I'm GONNA show but the way I'm going to show up and and then at the same time you both have built really strong communities around whether it's family and friends that you rely upon right when training takes so much out of you or being on the road. All the time takes a lot out of you. How do you take care of yourselves? In those moments healthcare care. Yeah as you can see 'em hacking all over the team really. Sorry I'm trying to hide it. I keep a pretty tight knit group and with that always interested to talk to New People and get to know new people but I feel like it's not that I don't care what anyone thinks 'cause I obviously do but it's the people who I really get my feedback from our people. They're going to be really honest with me. And so I think part of that self care for me is like always getting that feedback like am I sort of you know being true to myself people that have known me a long time. I mean part of was interesting about this time is like anybody can just come up and like you know. Tell you you're mazing and there's a lot of people doing that right now but like what does that mean you know? It's like this person doesn't know me. They don't know me from like ten years ago. So like how many data points do they actually have about that for me personally to feel good about myself and what. I'm doing so I keep it pretty tight and they are quick to let me know if I'm ever slipping great. Thanks Hi mom just like. I just got a couple of things and I wouldn't talk about this. This is the talking then. Just run like a physical standpoint. I mean we're on planes all the time all over the place drink lots of water sleep. Try to keep the alcohol to minimum. Tries probably not have any but continued to work out so just kind of trying to take it all in as well and realize this is an extraordinary time in my life in that sense but also it's just extraordinary out of the ordinary like eventually it'll go back but just trying to really enjoy this moment and you know also leverage it for the things that I feel like our good and worth the time and energy poorly yes similarly. I'm very appreciative of the moment. I think it's it's a very intentional practice to live my day with happiness. It's like my glasses always half full. I don't like even in the face of everything that's going on. I mean God forbid you turn on the news right now but I still try to be positive because I feel good. These last couple days exciting. I mean it's like is it a soap operas real. Yeah it's pretty juicy right now but Yeah I. I really tried to be appreciative of the moment I realized that it's not something that supported to everyone and Just like being take advantage of the opportunity. That's in front of you only operas aside. Let's go back to the equal pay question. Let's let's do that. How are we doing? We're doing great. We've feel as we've always felt very confident in our case and not just in all the legalities and the technical part of it but just in general like where are we going. What are we doing here? Like really digging our heels in about this right now. The whole world is really shifting in a more equal direction. And so I'm not sure exactly what's holding up the other side or what the point. I feel a little bit like just in the. We can't see the forest for the trees but we feel good about where we are. Certainly the World Cup helped we have a lot of public support and media support the more than that like we lived it and we know it and we know what is true and we know what's fair and we're not going to stop until we get that so we're pretty resolved in the way that we feel confident in organized as a team and will take whatever steps necessary to move forward. I mean hopefully we don't have to go into litigation. No one really ever like wants to actually go to court but if we have to. That's sort of what's on the table so we feel good about where we are. We're always open to any conversations that can be. Had I say this a lot but there are the only team? Were the only team they can have. And they're the only federation that we can have so we're forever tied together as much as much as we both love it. I always think about the incredible force that could be if we were actually working together. Yeah and that kind of actually what? What frustrates me and makes me the most sad and most pissed off is like you have an extraordinary group of women and you will always have that the team will always be that person and those women and you know. They're seeing firsthand. What it what. It's like when we're organized and educated in together and we're pretty strong opponent. I would say so. Just imagine if the goal is you know in a large sense to push the game forward and to serve the game in to grow the game in the United States. Imagine if you could do that with twenty three of the most powerful women not only in the sport but in culture and in our society right now and you'll sort of always have those women like imagine what we could do. I just feel like this is a stupid fight. And it's a waste of time and energy and money and brain power and resources and all and it's going against what the ultimate goal is for our team and for the federation like so. I'm looking forward to the day where it's over and we can actually get the business so there. Yeah thank you Colin. Kaepernick said it was just ball is in their court and there are really. I was thinking when you sometimes when you stand up for something you have to kneel and you chose to do that as well I was thinking actually by this time since the workouts last weekend that maybe would have landed for the team That movie played out a little bit differently. But talk us through what went through your mind in terms of making that choice to kneel in order to stand up honestly. I think it was just what I was saying before about. We do actually have the capacity while me not being Colin Kaepernick or not being a person of color who has experienced these things personally as soon as I heard him speak and what he was saying obviously seeing all the coverage about it Realizing how his message was being muddled purposely in a racist fashion in order to keep the status quo. I mean as soon as I heard him speaking when he was saying well. This shit's not not happening. We've just gone through such a island in in crazy summer in two thousand sixteen. There was so many you know very public shootings caught on camera. There was also the five Dallas police officers who were sniper down and it sort of all this kind of same thing and so right away I was just like. Oh this this this makes sense. This is something that I can do. This is how I can show up. I've been in a position of asking people to show up for me whether it be marriage equality or whatever it is equal pay so I was just like. Oh this is. This'll be an opportunity for me to show up and hopefully gain other people in sport. I I didn't think I'd be one of like two or three white athletes to show up. I feel like we really should be disappointed with ourselves as a as a whole with that But Yeah I just felt like it was not something that I'm old over for a long time as anyone in my life knows. I didn't discuss it with anyone not because I was hiding it but just you know I just did it. It just was the right thing to do and I think obviously in hindsight is I stand very firmly on that instill stand very firmly with Colin Kaepernick in everything that he stands for but to me it just goes back to us like do. I believe you're not and can I help you or not. And if I believe you and there's a way for me to help you in you're not doing it. I'm not surprised that history was spun in the way that it was and also also that people did it show up in the same capacity. It's shocking that we have this. These huge you know Entities that exist whether it be MBA NFL like soccer. Whatever and athletes have a choice. Right you have a choice. A conscious decision to go up for one another and not just like athlete to athlete but like human to human and. I think that this is all driven financially. Driven the decisions that people make because they don't want to lose endorsement deals? They don't want to lose their jobs if they don't have guaranteed contracts. I think it's a lot of self that happens in the conversation where people kind of talk themselves out of being allies in in finding their footing and activism which to me is an athlete who comes from a small a smaller sport who is a person of color so infuriating so it's like I mean my mindset is that God has already so like why not. Just go out there and you know. Throw caution to the wind and show up for one another in stopping so self absorbed. Then again in fencing. We don't make a lot of. Who's to say what I would do if I were Lebron? I'd like to think that I would show up for other people I really do. Yeah I mean I to me. It's like Megan. Said it's not even something that you consciously thinking about. You're like well of course I believe you. Of course I can actually see this person getting shot on camera by police officer there is no grey area we see it unfolding in front of us and it's a matter of like what do we do and also as I mean to use the opportunity of everyone knows. I don't think that you have to be an athlete. Have to have a large platform to show up in being ally. Like if you have one follower if you have a family that you sit across from dinner If you have if you're a human being you can actually show up for one another all the time because I think people feel a little bit paralyzed by the enormity of some of these problems and what is going to actually take to Chisel into them. You don't have to start an international organization to like actually affect the problem like you said like. Hey people going home for the holidays. Are you having those conversations and hardest? Conversations are the people that are right there next to you. That know you that you know. Maybe you know. They're a good person but they're making off income. Are you going to say something like? That's the problem. Is that in our own communities in our own lives. We're not having those conversation so then when it's time to stand up for someone you have no idea about. You don't know them and it's time for you to put yourself out there to believe in someone else and you can't even have that conversation with you know your uncle or aunt or whoever it is like you can do those little steps like the those. Make the biggest difference in society. Think if everybody was having those honest conversations in their households all the time then we go back into the world with that greater sense of empathy like things would change so much quicker That's right you know we think every day time. Is this wonderful brand whole time for kids and what we pursue is you know. How do we equip the youngest of our Citizenship High With News Literacy how you equip them with understanding what the truth looks like in the questions that you can ask and I think about you know. What are the messages that we can equip again our children with and like and just seeing people start with the question asked the question right within your individual realm of family or your workplace or the club that you're with or anything like that asking those question? I think what's important as the partnership to asking? The questions is really being there to listen And just to be. Have that empathy and to show up for each other Fencing such an interesting sport in this way and just as you said there might not be a lot of money advancing right now And also you're one of the very people of color who are either on your college team And so how? What was that journey like in terms of both asking those questions and and listening in terms of how you move forward using fencing as a metaphor for showing up in the world. Well I struggle with this idea because I don't think that posing the question and should always fall on the back of minorities or their own. I'm so my my standpoint on this as an athlete was that I shouldn't have to carry this baggage with me when I'm competing. It's unfair and I think that This this idea even a black athletes that have to be exceptional in order to be accepted. It's frustrating and so my my approach and sport whether it be like my ten years On the national team or now my time at the Olympics is just to show up as my my best self as an athlete so How how well can I do and let me focus on my craft because is an opportunity to? That's not given to. Everyone and I worked for this so I'm going to do this. I don't have time to try to check your racism or your big because it's not my job like clearly you're super ignorant. I. It's not my time to kind of undo and understand why you're like this. I've never carried that burden with me. I don't it's it's too much and as someone who is often one and one in spaces I just I. I'm sorry I just don't have time. Yeah some news time whether it be at the airport and having a check on for being rude or racist or whatever I have time today I got some honestly I feel like it's a form of self care to kind of like be able to exist in my in my own space and not have to constantly go behind and try to understand why someone is this way and and use my opportunities like very visibly. Muslim women are African American woman. Like let me use this opportunity to show them that. We're not the way that you think we're like. No actually you're ignorant. I don't have time but that's a choice that I may not like that and I respect whoever? I'm I personally don't it's too much it's like. It can be really overwhelming and as an athlete who my goal is to represent my country or myself. Well that day petition. It's like I mean Megan can tell you it's like you have too much going through your head. Yanno a game day whether it'd be nerves anxiety focusing on whatever you know goal you have that day you just to add that layer. I think can be really overwhelming totally. Yeah we don't have time for the bullshit like it's just you know I. It is to get to a point. It clearly we have. This is not my problem. Yeah like you are not my problem you you know. You can't burn me like I'M GONNA. I'm passionate and I talk about a lot of things and I WANNA show up in those spaces but yeah to constantly be trying to to deal with other people like even like they're in the tournament the president tweets. I was like. Do you think I have time to deal this like like? What is this actually like? These are these are words in a together. That's it. I'm like ask me all the time. Like how was that? Was it crazy? And it's like I know it was crazy but in the same sense unlike other time to deal with this is not even sentences first of all time to deal with this on the biggest stage of my life and did a whole country to take care of. I'm like you also don't have time to be doing. Hey that's another story. Yeah it is just Kinda like no. I'm going to need to like focus on myself and actually what I'm doing we'll answer. I don't even know if there was question marks in there but like whatever. You're trying to do over here like you can. You can do that but like I'm actually busy both books and busy right look and I think I mean and that's you know that I personally I really appreciate high show in the world you know and I just think that is what we can do. The most every single person sitting in this room. Everyone who's watching people you know again you sit across like you sat at coffees or at dinners that keeping ourselves allowing ourselves to show up as who we are is the most powerful thing that we can do. And so I say I Have Three Little Nephews Benjamin Colin and Ghani and I just could not be more proud that they are growing up in a world that the two of you are leading and driving and showing us how it's done so if I can ask everyone to give us to give a huge hand. That was Megan. Repeal and fifty Hajj Muhammad joined by Su Su at dream force two thousand nineteen. I really liked what Megan said about ally ship. She reminded us that being an ally is about having empathy. It's not necessarily about walking in someone else's shoes it's about trusting what people say about their own experience. If you enjoy this conversation and what more like it? Be Sure to subscribe on Apple podcasts. Or your favorite podcast APP. That'll do it for this episode of blazing trails. 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Social Distancing and Inspiring Generations With Megan Rapinoe and Sue Bird | The JJ Redick Podcast

"Hey Kelly and welcome to the ring podcast network. We hope the ringer can provide you entertainment and companionship. During this time so as always feel free to check out the ring your dot com where we're still covering the latest in sports pop culture tech and media and the ringers. Youtube channel can provide endless amounts of entertainment. You can find that at youtube dot com slash ringer Dan. Man I welcome to this week's episode of the JD cod cast. Tommy alter very shortly we are going to be joined by this week's guest sue bird and Meghan rookie. No they gave us about an hour time fun conversations before we get to that. Obviously were still quarantined. Were still social distancing. Tommy I know we're talking about a little bit with with Meghan ensue. But our our you voted. Not but I'm fine. All Things considered you know. I think that we're all in this together to of us our listeners. Who've been great sending suggestions we're GONNA get into city of thieves than another episode but keeps sending books. Keep sending shows things like that. I think it's a it's a very distressing time and a lot of ways Obviously I think that you know. We just got kind. Keep a positive attitude. How are you doing well? I'm a family time. I'm just like focusing on on what I can kind of control. I think all of us. We have good days bad days. I think just Kinda locking in with my family has been now has been really nice. We brought this up our this week's power rankings a few days ago. You know this about me. I am a huge cereal fan. Hyun basically survived the first twelve years of my life by refusing all of my mother's healthy food for dinner and sneaking in bowls of cereal late at night I realized the other day. I you know where you go to the grocery store now and it's like there's lots at least where it where we are like. There's lots of fresh food with cereals. Audiovox food's gone. I thought you can't honey nut cheerios anywhere right now. I was at the store last night. That was exactly what that was. Exactly the case like you can find any like at least the two places we've been you any beat if you go the right time of day. Produce shells are completely stocked. But there's no tricks there's no to ask so I'm going to start. I'M GONNA give you mine and I love to get some of your thoughts on this. Okay my favorite cereal. All Time is life the original life. Not The cinnamon life the original life. It's my favorite cereal. I put my two boys on it. They love it Phenomenal stuff casio one question about these rankings. Have my list obviously. Are we saying just the best tasting cereal or the best serial overall and by that I mean there are certain cereals which are just a lot healthier and you can have every day you can have life every day? That's what I'm saying. But but so it was stopping me from eating life because life is okay. She could keep goes. Life is life is a top five zero. But that's okay. I can't wait to hear you talk about your love of raised. Grass can kind of number two for me is owes remember. Ohs goes anymore. I've never had it but I know they exist. It's described on Wikipedia as the pieces are crunchy corn and oat rings filled with Graham cracker bids crispy rice and honey One thing about owes you really need to let the milk soaking them for about three to five minutes before you start. Because similar to captain crunch they will destroy the your mouth number three to me. Easy choice cracker note brand made an argument for crackle no branding number one. But there's nothing better when not a good argument could have five. Minutes is a bowl of crack when van when the milk has really saturated the pieces of cereal and almost soggy. It's some of the best minds I would. I would say I would say the best Syria. You don't need five minutes to wait but that's just a number four for me as honey bunches of oats. I love honey. Bunches of OATS. Any variety of it They made a bunch of them. I'm all honeybunch votes. The original is my favorite number five. I don't know if you remember this but rice crispy treats yes. I used to have all the time is the trick. They trick parents until they still make this like a re sees cereal. That's just like it's so terrible. The writers retreats. That was the one that I got so growing up on my birthday. You got to pick one box of cereal. I would say most years Dr Christie Trade Cereal. That's a IT'S A. It's an incredible cereal. You can't have it for more than three or four days. You're going to lie out sick. taste wise. There's just no. There's no disputing it. I think it's a finalist. There's no disputing what. Rice crispy trio incredible. It's a finalist. Yeah it's a finalist tickets. I feel like I'M I. I feel like your list but had to make a prediction. I think you're going to go with all of the funk and standbys. I think you're off the ship that everybody else says. You're GONNA say Lucky. Charms cinnamon toast. Fraud Brand frosted flakes are go ahead. You're just you're actually predicted. Some of these which is fine. Because you got to go I I'm number five raisin bran. Here's the argument for it. I don't think razor brand is a top five tasting cereal. I think you can ever every day and it's good so that's over five number. Four honey. Nut frosted flakes classic number three tricks for shaped corn price. Honey nut frosted flakes classics so basically honey bunches of oats. I mean the name. I see the name on frosted flakes you. Can you can make whatever you want when I'm buying it. I'm saying hunting frosted flakes debts. It number three tricks. Fruit shaped cord puffs fantastic number. Two hundred cheerios. Another Editors Right now because somehow put raising brand in the top five with that bullshit number one number one. This one hundred cheerios number. One best serial cinnamon toast. Crunch it solid. It is an excellent series which you can have every day. You put cinnamon toast crunch with some milk and some fruit. But let me. Let me make my argument against cinnamon toast. Crunch there's so many knockoff. Versions of it. There's nothing unique about seven you to any whole foods. You get three. How does that make? How does that make it a knock off? There's there's a thousand knockoffs of Gucci bags you walk you walk into Chinatown. Gucci bag is not nice clean listeners. Please send in two. Jj all of your favorite cereals. He spent a lot of time thinking about this and I think he'll appreciate I would just say owes can't replicate it. Graco brand camera with ozone even exist anymore right. I don't think I've ever had them nor will lie. They don't exist. I think they stopped making them in two thousand eighteen. There's been some controversy surrounding the the recipe for graco brand is well. What's your. This is not cereal. I'm not trying to make the cop of what's your feeling oatmeal phenomenal. I love OATMEAL. I I have a bill during the season. I have every morning for breakfast. A little utter a little honey blueberry. I like your list. I think your list doesn't make sense. It'll make any sense. I don't even know what number three is. But it sounds like the most unhealthy cereals. So you can't make an argument because there's brand and a cereal raisin bran. You said raising a tasting cereal every day. You're not necessarily want every day. No you cannot you. Can't you can't right you go to bed. You can't eat that. Rice KRISPIES TREATS CEREAL EVERY DAY. Or you'RE GONNA get nine hundred pounds. I'll give you that. You can't eat. Cinnamon toast crunch deteriorates every day. I don't really think is is a fine choice. Choice so upsetting to say. I think you're I think the logic that because people have knocked it off takes away. It's number one status is crazy. It's not their fault. Knockoff brands all the time. This puts America. I just I said I think it's I think it's the Toyota of cereal. Let's get to our guest this week. This is a fun conversation. Sue Bird and Meghan than all right. We are now joined by Meghan. Sue guys thank you so much for coming on the show. Thank you for your patience. We had about fifteen minutes just now technical difficulties twenty five minutes per sheet you guys and I also delayed it twice taking on our sorry about that. How is it? How's your social distancing going? Pretty Good Chilin mean. We're lucky we're Kinda hold up together in a good spot in whole foods is pretty close so we go at the right time. So yeah we're we're we're pretty much. It's totally weird bizarre but yeah we were kind of on an early Susan Seattle like when it was all happening so as she moved east she was like we gotta get paper sears. Everyone's making it. I don't know why but we need some kid. Yeah it's it's weird. It's weird. How people in different parts of the country just picked up on a differently wall people and everyone Seattle in New York shooter knew about it and now it's like I mean we've we're talking about the people on the beaches in Florida last week. We're still there. And they were still kind of hanging out during spring break. And you're like listen man lightness. This is not a positive now. Yes is like numbers like hoarding toilet. Paper and other people are licking bottles at Walmart. It's like a total lesson on human nature like what people believe. They just don't believe stuff until they actually like consider feel it. I like megabucks saying when I came. East I was telling my friends I was like gosh as I don't go into the city anymore like you say I just had lunch with a friend of mine and then transferred to come back east. When did you make it was already planned not yet? It was already plan. I was like coming back here for other stash but even in that week I was like should I go. Should I stay like we'll Seattle beat like ahead of not factual curve but like ahead of you know? We'll be better there eventually. Before get worse I was. I don't know eventually just came in the ninth state. Our stuff our children have kids or dogs around like the now that would be nothing. Thanks John John. Thank you so jealous. I love being a dad. Everybody knows that I love my kids but I do feel like I would be way more productive right now. In in this scenario if I did not have two boys under six years old now one of the things that I think is really frustrating for me is I just can't find time to Binge Watch Tiger Kink. It's actually we. Have you guys watched it? I'm thirty nine last night where you have to watch it in order to keep up with conversations. Yeah in group chats and things. I'm not going to spoil anything. We're going to call you after you guys finish it all every episode better. I think the best description of it is. It's like if an entire television show was on cocaine knowledge one character like the entire so just keeps escalating going and going and going. What else do you guys watch? We just finished the loudest voice. That's what's kept us from the Tiger tank descendant side which is like the Roger Ailes Fox News yet and explain why some people aren't taking a very seriously. It's good it's good to. Jj you see it. Good it's good thing Tommy. How far along in Tiger King? Are you right now? I'm done we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA. We'RE WE'RE NOT. We'RE WE'RE NOT. We're not foiling for them. So we're GONNA offline about this because it's a is the loudest voice Russell. Crowe would movie. Yeah it's good. I thought it was better than the movies you saw on. Jayjay the Bombshell Actually Fox. News is really Cleveland Media Conversation. Mega Mega. I talk about this. They are still trying to deny that. This is a real thing. They're downplaying. Cities are going into lockdown over the boys. And they're still trying tonight. I don't fundamentally understand it. It's like they're at the same time. Denying that they're denying it while still downplaying it. Then telling you like what are you telling people. What are you saying that they didn't say in the Senate and now they're like but listen since stay at home kind of Klis people source too bad. Boxing hot takes everywhere the other day. I was like Hannele. I remember watching like CNN Amazon. As a candle is it. Just go look Brunette for like a minute and I was like yeah on the other side lives. Sometimes you know how are you guys? Follow the news pretty consistently politics in otherwise however you kind of like maintaining your sanity. Because we're just eighty. We're going to be in this for the next month to six weeks minimum like maintaining the amount of consumption of this stuff. Politics is life so I feel like for me. The more I know about actually the calmer I feel so you know. We're watching Governor Cuomo every morning. It's kind of like he's rambles our here the information that we're obviously like watching you know the the White House press briefings which which are getting Zane. There's really pointless I'm not saying but yeah just kind of like taking it onto I feel like we're we've been like this is very serious for a long time like her. You Know Space Coast to Seattle. So I'm Kinda like I just want to know everything about it and then so when I'm talking to people doing on his face signs and talk more friends and family or whatever then I kind of like no it to say but yeah it's filed. I'm feel like there is a balanced because part of the fear of this is like uncertainty and so if you go out and just like try to learn as much as you can and you get as much information you can. I think some of that fear. But then you're sort of towing the line of being obsessed with it and checking your phone all day long at ignoring your children but it is it is it is interesting to try to like find that balance. A little bit Really and everything like whether it's the stock market like checking every day. What is the stock market doing? What is where's the next epicenter? I know New Orleans right now. They're saying it's like the next epicenter of it. They think a lot of people may be brought in because of Mardi Gras. And now those numbers are now skyrocketing because of that. There's just wild. Cuomo for information and then like now the White House oppressors or more like snl skits. It's like what it's really a shame. Chad is running commentary. Having a field day press conferences. Micks love it would have been every. Yeah how is this affecting your guys? Sports seasons like what is whereas like the time line happening right now like you were getting to ramp up right. Yeah I think we're actually like both in the same boat both are in the summer. Both were trying to go for the Olympics this summer so it was awkward for like a week or two where it was kind of like you knew you can sense his gang serious like right before the shutdown obviously the NBA shutting down was like okay like right before that and then into that it was kind of this awkward. Where like we couldn't go to. The gyms are being shut down so you can't go to the gym. I was like shooting at the park down the street. She was rebounding for me. You know we were like desperate measures and then in some bizarre way when the Olympics stop postponed it was like a little bit of like okay like a little bit of relief. Because now you're not trying you don't feel this pressure to like be in tiptop shape. We still have our leagues to worry about. But I don't see those I mean I really don't know but I don't see anything happening there until a little bit later. So right now just trying to do what we can. But there's not as much stress as there was a couple of weeks ago like it's yeah we work out. We tried to do a can. I'm not trying to stress about it. Yeah what about are you? Act You home gym. Do you have a gym in your building? What's I'm in a town in New York? I'm not in New York City but applying. I don't have a home gym and so when I got up here I left New Orleans. I drove up your twenty one hours last week and I got up here. I had no gym equipment. So I've like been doing body weight stuff which you can only really get so much sand so I ordered like kettlebells power blocs medicine. Same thing. Who's gone around. I learned my lesson with the Peleton. What does that mean? I got one? I got one from my wife guestroom in our in our apartment and it was gone three days later. She put it in the in the gym. Honestly like you guys make a great point because I think it's natural. Frost is athletes because worse. We have like this calendar right. Especially if we've been doing this like ten fifteen years. Whatever you have a calendar so you know all right this is when. I have the ramp it up. This is when I can take a real break. This is when I could take a partial break. And just gotTa do you know body exercise or whatever This is so this is so weird. It's just unprecedented. And I after the first three days I was going crazy and I was like. You can't like put this on yourself like everybody is in the same boat. The second they shut down the practice facilities for us and basically said you guys can't play basketball off okay. I I can relax a little bit and Wang. I'm still going to try to stay in shape but I'm not gonNA and I'm not gonna go crazy totally. How essentially like you're saying if you've been in a long time and I know you're you're very meticulous everything I've heard about. Jd Very meticulous methodical. About the way you go through things and now were like doing step up on the coffee table also coupled that with like snow time line. No idea like are we ramping. Are we slowing down? What are we maintaining? What containing four is I feel like we kinda switched to like okay? Let's just do this for wellness and like keep ticking over with our workouts and do what we can and if something doesn't work like I don't think people realize that and this is definitely coming from like I'm at a place in my career. I'm not on the court every day. But if you're like twenty four twenty three you can probably be on the court every day so whether it's you know for the WNBA. We started in like April for me. I'm like very limited so the awkward part and to your point. You're practicing got closed. Once the parks close I was Kinda like I call out of my hands now anyway because like I can only be out there so long in order to be like my peak performing shape so now it's like well I can't go out there anyway. I don't think people realize sometimes that it is like this huge dislike ramp up that we're all doing to try to be peaking at the right time. They just think we're out there. All the time dislike plan. No big deal so especially as you get older you enjoy yourself. You would have some ground if you deserve that. Yeah I guess my fear now is if I like pick a day in like throw a dart at a calendar right and just say like. I think it's going to be may I or May fifteen and I do like my normal ramp up and I get like three or four weeks into that. And then all of a sudden they're like seasons cancelled going to like what the fuck knows my job totally fear that is. That's a legitimate fear. The like the trials of self-motivation right now are also all over the place. Like if you have a goal then you can work backwards instead and you can wrap your mind around ended in every every day. I wake up to like I WANNA work. Better of you guys have set divas set time you wake up every day. I've you like built a calendar yet or no no way. I'm pretty sure we're on the east coast. I'm pretty sure we're living on the west coast now waylay like watch. Whatever shows whatever time like eat breakfast? I know the kids you boys. The boys actually sleep like right there. I could see that yeah. It's like a little double we'd bed. I'm not really sure it feels small when I crawl at six fifteen in the morning and removed. And I'm like you guys have to sleep for thirty more minutes. Does offer twenty more whatever but yeah? It's I think schedule thing by the way I really if this turns out to be like I two months thing. I'm going to need to be on a schedule the next two to three days. Otherwise I'm GonNa go crazy or have you guys mentioned you were getting creative with your workouts. And I'm very curious with that means and for listeners. I'm sure people at home who listen to pod. I'm sure they would love to get a few cue tips from you. Guys have any fun exercises. Besides maybe like jumping. Jacks and push ups. I don't know so before we before. Our order came through with like literally tear acts like a medicine ball some weights. I got this like Keto ball thing that you can actually gotten that yet. It's not really a ball. I can't explain it but you can adjust the weights. I'm hoping networks before then we literally got like so. We're doing step up on a coffee table so coffee table like only. I don't know probably like twelve inches or so. So we're doing step ups on that holding like I had like a big thermos water Thurman old school the old school ones where you would like as a kid. The big ones had one of those randomly in the closet. Filled with water. Weighed it ten pounds. We would like hold back and do step ups. Yeah right now. There's like a gym bags log. Lotto bottles goblets just like hold his fear that aren't we had bad on one side. You had like a gym bag in here. And then we had one of Megan's like Rowley wrote carry on cases bottles of water so they were both like twenty pounds and did lunges in the hallway with those I mean fails. We tried to like do stairs in our building and Mike. Halfway up on too many terrible sh building you guys are going. Yeah trying to like do jumps land on the pirate on. Yeah yeah come telling her like I'm like I know jumping part of your blooming right now that we're not even supposed to vacuum in this building during the day. That's how sensitive like everyone to sound. I know it's wild. Are you eating out or now getting delivered? We did like early on. We did just once one and then for the most part it's been cooking. We've been lucky we've been able to find stuff. The hardest thing the finest chicken but yeah pretty much save. Everything is just like crazy and a lot of dishes. The dishes on a lot of coffee. I like coffee. Become the new. Like I'm not GonNa do not healthy is well. What else are you doing dishes? Yes you guys have to understand. You know this about me. I eat out all the times. I've been around just just Brat so I've been stuck. Cooking are cooking cooking and making stuff for the last whatever three weeks since we've been in this and it has changed my life completely probably for the better. I think it's a positive but it just is. It's a definite life shit right now. There's always go to embarrassed. I'm not exactly getting creative. I think you're getting creative. Just making versions of grilled cheese with different things. What they would test though. One day was grilled cheese with pesto. Elba grew grilled grilled grilled Mozzarella pesto tomato credible hotshot chef Jay Z. What are you making? Can't my wife's twin sister and her husband and their kid they're living with US oral. Were were on cohabitating which we've actually done before so it's going well but last night the the kids went to bed at four of us were having dinner and They all said to me. You know we feel like we've had a lot of meat this. Which can you dial back on so I slow cooked? Like some lamb leg. I slow cook a pork. But and now they're getting mad at me so they went and got salmon today the grocery store so yeah but we never seem to you guys like the first night we got here. I gotTa take out and we would cook every meal then. It's been pretty good. I I mean I feel like I'm eating the same like how I normally don't not really hang difference as long as the food supply chain continues the way it's going. I think I'll be fine. Really just need my salad for lunch. Probably I meant to ask you are do you feel like you're you're losing your muscle mass. Because I know you worked really hard to get super jacked and I just don't want you to lose that. I mean it's going to happen. There's nothing I can do about it. I've not I have routine that I did before. Outbox unlike you guys professional athletes would box and now I can't talk. It's not possible so I just have to. Should I just get the big bag? Honestly we're looking at. We're looking at could be like eight weeks here. I probably should get it. I feel like I feel like I call home. When you guys start talking about your workouts. Just the background just like let you do your thick slash out. It's just not at the same level. I've a food question for you guys that we were talking about Favorite cereals can you rang. Can you rank your favorite cereals? Yeah definitely because we've we've been thinking a lot about this same thing. Lucky charms number one. Then I would go Cookie Crisp is in my top three interests but then like I always do. Honey nut cheerios. That's like a mainstay curious yet. It's like it's like you don't even WanNa put it in. It's just like an automatic lead. The top three open for more creative. But though I really like cinnamon likes to be honest and cinnamon toast crunch tape but those would be fruit. Pebbles is good definitely lucky. Charms number one the happing crunch even though like your mouth tricks was so good churches. Amazing yes cinnamon toast crunch. We had a lot of life. That was like this sort of go between like okay. Here's some sort of sugar but we weren't allowed to obsessed the belva raising arisen brand pheonix. It's it's new -able. I like way. Marange choosers. Judges made affairs he'd happening. Jj cares about two things in this world. Besides his family cares about cereal. And he cares about why. And if you if you make any comments about either he gets very judgy hard changing. Let's hear it. Yeah do you WANNA know mine? Yeah I think I have to agree with a lot of your list. I think they're all solid choices. definitely Sugar at the top of your list. Meghan allowed sugar like destroys your mouth. It really draft says where you like the one as you get better doughnut and then you get the question. I have you guys actually. This is for everybody but what what kind of milk do you have with your cereal on scam? I can't remember the last time I had cereal growing up. Yeah we did skin like growing up and now I only do whole milk Tommy Alaso. I do skim but I've been doing all milks and oatmeal recently. Because it lasts longer it lasts longer in the flavor profile. I think it's I think it's fine. I don't notice it. Here's didn't I haven't. I don't eat cereal. Generally I hadn't had cereal and about three years before the last two weeks and I've had it every day I've become a become become a become obsessed with it again. I understand why everybody loves it but I don't taste the difference in the milk. I think you just have to have. I think it's freakish to not have milk in general with some people. Do I just do cinnamon toast crunch? Blueberries almond milk milk and it's good to perfect. I haven't had cereal. The last time I had cereal was second-set grew up with all these healthy ones. Then I went overseas. I played in Russia for like ten years when you could get a box of lucky for twenty five dollars. Didn't care you get a box of lucky charms or cinnamon toast crunch you like hoarded them. It was like a big win huge win at the Grocery Store. I literally have not had cereal since Russia and I'm only bringing us out because this entire experience of like isolation you go to the grocery store they might have it they might not and you're kind of just finding its overseas again. I've literally been preparing for this. I don't even know it daily and I've talked to other WNBA players and they're like yeah. This is really just like overseas. And I'm like yes it is now. Everybody knows you're totally financially. So maybe I need to set. I'm like I'm like maybe smashing. Cereal again kill. Lucky charms overseas sound good. Was there anything with anything overseas. You could never get that you just were. Were freaking out about any kind of fresh anything like Avocado. If you found an avocado it was like baseball. It was so hard it would take months to ripen out with even be useful and even then it was like you can get all the fresh staff but like yeah. You might go and they might not have chicken that day. You're like all right. I'll go for the you know like I'll eat the meat or you know you just kind of moved on but anything fresh. It was always a crapshoot if you went in there thinking like oh today. I'm going to do like a tomato Mozzarella Salad. Like on a bed of with you might go in. And they'll have anything left. Turn it and my figure something else out literally. Every trip was different that way. What was the best part about playing overseas or was was their best? Now there's good parts there's parts it's like you grow up in a different way like living being totally in another culture and having to like find your own way. You have a lot of help. Don't get me wrong but like having to like experience that I think my understanding respect for other people other cultures is the one thing that I got from that experience that I would never trade or Never WanNA trade. It's definitely opened my eyes to so much just allows you to kind of understand people more or not be as judgmental like Americans I mean even sitting here. It's like we don't want to be but anyone who had come to visit. It was always like. Oh this this this. This note takes different or this coast. Coke is weird like what's that. Why are they doing that? Why are you doing that? It's just like it's kind of Natura way less likely to do that now. And it's like fully open my eyes so bunch of stuff so that's by far the best part and the money that guy. Thank God for nettle rubles ten years. How old were you when you first went? I was sad. Twenty four twenty three twenty four. And how long? How long do you think it took you? It's like get used to it to like shed that yeah So my very quickly and only because my very first year I was the only American and so I didn't really have that other. I'm Jay Farner. She was from Africa. She spoke English and everything. But it wasn't like having an American so I really like very quickly had to like go with the flow with everybody else on my team and I had one. One of my teammates was on. She was check but she like spoke. Russian says she was a lifeline but very quickly I had to like learn because you walk in you just see like an aisle of what you think might be. Milk turns out. It's like sour cream like you have to figure these things out very quickly So right away. I knew I had to get in there. It was great. I mean tried a bunch of different food try. I mean a lot of vodka shots. They do those like it's like decide. Hey how's it going shot cool you know? Of course it for both to you as you guys are are two of the great world travelers that I know still your profession if you had to live in any city outside of the US Arianna whereas I would live in a volunteer. Live in Valencia Spain. I could live in some Italy Italian cities as well but I think Valencia. Spain is tops on my list. It's like on the Water. Like great weather bomb food just like guy like Spanish culture. That would be and then. There's a smaller city called Salamanca that I really liked do but those would be my top two. You have to be somewhere. In Japan Tokyo. I mean food culture. They're not doing handshakes so much safer about good fashion. Yeah you'll be wants but like it was so amazing. It was like the best experience. Yeah she loves the fashion lobster voters. Cole I went to Tokyo three summers ago on a Guy Strip. There's three of us that went and We spent five nights in Tokyo. One nine in Kyoto came back and it was like a light literally was a life changing experience and the second I landed at. Jfk House. Like I just want to be back in Japan also to like the the way that traffic works over there or like the flow of of pedestrians like everybody just follows the rules and respectful of other people. I was I was in the city of thirty million people for a week and I did not hear one person. Honk car. Minoza insane runs out of the middle of the intersection yellow light. Nobody does doesn't have things just flow in this really like nice way. They're a zone and the FOOD IS INSANE ENTER. Tokyo. I'm wondering I wanted to go back to. It was going to go to see you guys next summer. I'm I might. I might go next summer for sure. Not as a player you can see the see. So you've never been in a China China's a little bit. Is there another place? Is there another place that you've never been that you really want to go to the I really want to go to Amsterdam? I've never been like a man. Yeah I really WANNA go. I think will be my place where I would lives. Yeah I've never been to like Ireland Amsterdam like I've been to London but most of that area up there making stuff. I've never been to y'all got for. Croatia is like gorgeous. I've never been in Croatia. Which votes what's your spot Thailand? Yeah idea I WANNA do like Vietnam not like. I don't WanNA backpack. Though I shall hand here I do. I WANNA sorta like go in between. Yeah there's a lot of places in Europe that I haven't really spent time like I've been here before we would go to the same tournaments over and over so a lot of places in Spain Barcelona or Glenn Sierra talking about all over like Greece and Italy like having spend very much time in a ton of time. You're in you're like Oh God I like don't WanNa do you think part of that's because when you're there you're just locked in it's like you're playing so we would go to. I've been to go to certain area in Portugal like twelve times or like you know sort of seeing London. And then we're kind of in lockdown like you have one or two days to kind of go out or you'll like go to dinners and stuff but you're not gone in like doing stop. You're not really sightseeing dinners is like the the only thing that we do domestically and overseas sue. You GotTa touched on this earlier but I often action. I think about this pretty regularly. Just about Board says allowed me to see and has changed my perception of Abu. I learned culture at the policy at Duke. And so you talk about the other right an NYC your perception of the other completely changes and it's for me. It's literally been because a sports so I feel very fortunate because of that. And it's not I can think of so many times where I traveled for basketball right. And you exactly as you described Megan. You're basically on lockdown. You might have like a two week period and then you have one day off. And that one day becomes like the most meaningful part of the Totally and just for I know for me from such a young age like I went on a trip to Thailand when I was eighteen to be in like Bangkok. You know to be from a small town in California. Go to Bangkok at Holy Shit. This is insane to like go to Shanghai at seventeen and just like be in a totally different culture at such a young age. I feel like it was so important because it is like. Yeah you can say like. Oh the Chinese in the airport like this Chinese culture like Oh that everyone think thing like what makes our culture less reno rude or more acceptable some other culture and you just like you just Kinda like let go and sort of give yourself to it. I feel like even if you don't love it. You just Kinda have the experience in your like. That was wild insane or cool and just like than bringing that back here in you sort of realize. Some things are aren't as different as they say. That will immerse get in there. Yeah you gotTa Immerse Shoe. I I have to tell you this. I told Time this yesterday did you texture. When I told you know what I wanted to reveal allison also I I said to him. I said you know I don't. I don't really like Geek out by very often about like the podcast guests or whatever and he knows this. I know a lot of people get nervous about being bored ever but I was like honestly like I'm kind of Geeking out about Suan. Megan and I was telling him that like there was like two or three of us when I was like a freshman at Duke like through High School Freshman at Duke that we had your We had your post on our wolves. Had I think my freshman year? I had a poster of you. You just got drafted in Seattle as opposed to review my freshman dorm and Mike Ball Buddy or selling high school had it Mike. I don't know we love that Jazz. I wanted to ask you guys like this is a question for both of you guys. 'cause you guys have been Such influential and powerful female athletes and first of all. When did you realize that you had that power? And secondly like. How often do you think about that legacy that you're creating right now inspire inspiring the next generation like me? I don't think I realized it until recently to be honest with unique about playing as long as I have is that I've really experienced like from female athlete. Perspective like how different things are from when I first got drafted to now and dramatically different. You know so. I see it in some ICT magazine. Some of the younger teammates. Just like the things. They say that their expectations like of course. We're going to push the envelope when I first came into the League. You just kind of like fell in line with everybody else. That's just you kind of just did with whatever it was they're telling you to do. You never questioned it so I really didn't like fully grasp it it's almost like a toll mindset change until fairly recently but would that at the same time just like as a basketball player. I would say four years ago. Five years ago we We started this rebuild but the storm. So we've been really successful for a long time and then it was rebuilt and I was the the like the last player standing so to speak and we drafted these two young players. Jewell Loyd Brennan Stewart. That was when I realized like oh I can really kind of like leave my fingerprints all over them. All over this franchise and that's Magazi- became starting to creep in more important than winning because for so long all I cared about as long as I win as long as I'm a winner. No one can ever argued that no one can tell me different like I'm good and that's all that matters in your legacy and it's actually I mean even though with Koby Ryan's passing like a lot of his quotes have come out more and more people obviously talking about it mark but there was one thing that he said that I remember when he said it and he was like. Yeah there's going to be another. Mvp DOT COM. He's like there's going to be another scoring champion another MVP. But it's like what the Marquis leave in other ways and I was like yes that makes sense to me and that's when from like a basketball player standpoint. I started to focus on it so it's probably probably when those guys got drafted. It's a couple years ago I think our me. It happened a little bit differently because I had the unique experience of basically I mean. We have a league announcement. I think we're about to go on our eighth year who've had one before but like our stability has been with the national team so we have like the unique experience of essentially playing in like a one team league that that represents America all the time so we have like sort of that benefit and we travel around the country in. It's like everyone can just hop on our bandwagon in sort of cheer for us. So I think early on in my career. I kind of realized that a little bit and I think we're also sort of coming in especially me I think it was. You know you're in the League before this. But where athletes voices like are more sought after and it is more important or putting more emphasis than it's becoming more important in sort of more socially acceptable for athletes to speak out and were actually kind of at the point. Now where it's like. You're not speaking out then. You're sort of saying something and so I think with all of the the fights that we've had I think our teams are new. That kind of early of like. Wow we have this platform where it's not just one franchise or one lead or one team representing America all the time not only domestically then kind of on the global stage and I think just gaming that kind of confidence early and now we're getting you know in like I said it's the air were athletes are more more willing to speak up and we're encouraging them more. And so I think like having that confidence for all of us to just like dive in to all these issues and I also think and what you were saying about like what else are you doing other than your sport like. We're all like just normal people at the end of the day so whether we play basketball or you guys play by play soccer whatever it is like you still have other hours in your day where you're doing stuff for you can affecting you have other things that you're interested in so I think for me. The legacy part comes in like I don't really think about it too much. I know I've made a lot of people manse. I suppose my doing fine. I'M GONNA keep stirring the pot. Everything will be fine. Yeah but should just kind of realizing like the power in how much support that. We have all the time and he often times. When you're making that decision do I speak out or not? You always think of like what am I gonNA lose but I kind of like flip that on its head has like what can we gain? And how many other people are feeling like this? Who Can we? Who can these sort of you know? Lend OUR PLATFORM TO I. Actually I was GonNa ask you Meghan Mike. How much do you and your national team teammates? Talk about messaging or is like there's a few of you that are just kind of going rogue or is this is this like we're GONNA we're GonNa have a clear message what we're after now. We definitely have a very clear message. I would say the last like three four years kinda since two thousand fifteen after that World Cup win we were. Kinda like okay as a players association. You just were not locked in organized. The way that we needed to be so as sort of become more robust we have a very clear message now in kind of like not a hierarchy with like a leadership structure now and we have like help with our media on how we WANNA phrasings. I think now it's like super solid in. We've empowered different people in different positions like some of our most powerful players. Are you know never in the media? Never say anything but like within the team and sort of like within whether we're negotiating or this lawsuit ever they're kind of the driving voices and then we've sort of identify clearly whose most powerful in the media who's GonNa make the most flash who says things the right way and who's willing to step out there and dance. I feel like you know I talk a lot in the media or Alex talks a lot in the media like we are sort of all speaking on behalf of everything I say sometimes I drag them along with me but for the most part it's like where sort of lockstep and then we're like okay. These are the people that are. GonNa be most impactful as I've gotten older in my career I just want to piggyback suicide but as I've gotten older my career it's not that I value winning any less but I learned to value other things whereas like college at Duke or early in my NBA career. Like it's literally all I thought about and I would measure everything against that and so became off. I don't win an NBA championship College Championship then. My legacy is meaningful and I'm not leaving impact or whatever it is And then as I've gotten older I realize you know this mentoring thing has become like really really important for me and the last three years my two years billion this this year in New Orleans. It's been like incredibly rewarding and it's not ice Time like it's not like I want credit for it. 'cause I don't it's just like I actually enjoy it and I like for me. The greatest joy is going to be like if the Keel Alexander Walker and five or six years is an all-star I'm GONNA be Hope by name never gets mentioned but I would be the happiest person you know what I mean so it becomes like. I don't know that's where the value is created a little differently as you get older. Yeah I think I had such like I wanNA yeah like early on in my career. I got lucky to play on the national team. We've we've been very successful and you know it's like after you win. You're Kinda like I mean it's great. Of course it's going to be be no part of history whatever but then you do like just go back to work you do like you are around the same people and then you are kind of doing the exact same thing. So it's it's not like it doesn't mean anything of course it does and that's like your goal. Every season is to win and do the best that you can but I feel like for me. I kind of realized that after winning I found like okay. There's a lot more to this than just I put everything in that. Then you get there. The two of you want like. It's not that important. I'm what everything but multiple multiple times. Did you guys? Did you guys have mentors yourself when you were coming up that there were like Jj's point that were particularly impactful. I didn't have. I didn't have a teammate on the national team when I was super young like when I just joined twenty one there are some older players that would give me like dawn. Staley was one shell. Soups was was actually really the one who Kinda came up to me and gave me the old like here for a reason. Like stop acting like acting like you know like looking at us like this like you're here for reasons that are playing like it. I was like But my I think the person that helped me the most in my career was assistant coach for the storm for many years. She was our head coach for two or three years sadly she got fired but she's actually an assistant with the mavs now. Jenny Boesak so like someone who she came to the storm when I was twenty. Two as an assistant as an assistant was the head coach so worked with her until. I was like in my mid thirties so that entire time. And she's like kind of like my truth serum like I kind of need that voice every now and then to be like. Maybe you're like a little bit of a Rut you know. And she's the one who's like you're good. You're going to be fine and you're like okay. I believe you 'cause I know you don't lie to me or you know it's something else I k. You need a fix your attitude. Whatever it was. She's kind of like that truth serum for me. So that's definitely person dot my career that. I helped me time. Yeah I feel like I have one Christine Lilley. I didn't stay with her on the national team for very long but we can overlap. It was like maybe a year and a half or something and she was just like so low key relaxed about everything kind of the same which kind of like chill out like. I know you had posters of me like on your wall near throwing up and now on the team so like do you think they'll never forget. C. C. Basically. It was journeys fitness tests or something. That was always something that I like stressed about it. She kinda just looked like it's just it's hard for me as it is for you and everyone else now. It's like you're not. Yeah that's not a horror you like. Everyone has to put in work and everyone has to you. Know Kinda dig deep find out within themselves but she was just she new. She was kind of on like you know the end of her career and she you know she took a few of us under her wing. Kind of like made the transition Who's your mentors? We already know who was on your wall so far. I think you guys remember Larry for the for the Hornets. No you mean. This is the kid kid Johnson but when he was like I came out grandma con reactors converse. Yeah I had his posters posters on my shoes into now. I actually have a J. Story Myself. So wherever whatever year. The all-star game was in New York. We're going to three point contest that years. Yeah so we had. I was in like the skills challenge and I was. We were in a room they were going to give us like all you have to come in and give us the logistics. I go this is when will have a Bubba and you were like sitting a couple rows ahead and like on that. When we were going to get up I was like oh I would swing cash actually. Ironically I know she worked with doing one like all. I'm going to introduce myself to JJ. I've never met him and Chris. Paul is kind of like sitting with us and he was like no no no. You don't WanNa Bother J. Right now. He's like really serious about this time. Like he's really focused and like I think this was just by accident but when you stood up you had a very serious look on your face. I was like okay. I'm like I'M GONNA wait. I'M GONNA wait. I'm away he was like. Jj has been preparing for this. He's very serious. I don't think you want it. I was like okay. I'll wait another time. Finally got this moment. Actually you'd send something probably would have loosened up. That was. That was the year that I set the record for most made long twos in three point at least they went in. I did not speak in the world. It is stated laughing halfway through. This is so bad seattle. Seattle All Star game to. Where do you have a pre game routine bells and whistles to do the thing is act like I get asked us a lot? I'm curious if you feel the same way but like I don't. I'm not sure but I literally do the exact same thing every day in the Nicot just like certain things have to get done. I WANNA eat by a certain time. I don't WanNa like be curry for lunch before a game or something but I might not superstitious Ends Up. The Jackson thing happened every single one year. It's a checklist is what it is. It's not it's not superstition. But it's a checklist because when you check those things off your like I control that ahead of the game searching. I built control. We have to be there like a long time before the game. We're there like an hour before we go out for warm ups. There's all this time so I just kinda like plot my way through them like I gotTa Drag Majoria. I've got you know. Get a snack. Got D my stretching guy like always different things. You had do you at this point. Because you've played in seventy big games in both you have but do you feel like. Did you feel any level of stress about the championship that you would have with like a game three weeks earlier like do you feel the moment dollar now? I think you do. Yeah but it's actually kind of data to said like you have this checklist that you've been doing like check all these boxes. You feel prepared. You feel ready. It's not like they're gonNA throw anything new at you but like obviously it's a bigger moment. Might be like a little bit more nervous but I get excited for those moments like. I'm not someone who like loves practice so when I do actually late in especially for the love practice especially game once I get to the Games. Yeah this is a different people. This is going to be much. Show Bridgestone different like that. She'll be like game on a finals excited. I'm like whatever you're excited. I'm like I guess. And she's loved raring to go all the time for games at. I feel like you get being in the moment to me doesn't happen until your games like either getting ready to start or starting and you feel the energy in the crowd ads. There is nothing like actually different about the game to be done all the things. You're playing against the players. It's not like you're playing against the monsters when they stole. Don't you're playing against the same guys but then you went? Sometimes you get out there and you're like Oh the energy like the energy in the building -pletely different. That's what makes us different. Yeah for sure Philly Philly the philly crowds of my last two years. The grounds in the playoffs were nuts. Like I was the best that I've yeah. I mean I guess the finals yeah. It was It was great. It felt differ for sure. I was at like a act. What's the restaurant there's like? Oh my God del Friscos. I was at Del friscos in Philadelphia. Like the night before the eagles were playing. And they're playing the Vikings and it was even the energy and there. I was like this people have their jerseys on. I was like what the Hell is going on. Charles Barkley. Was THERE INSANE IN PHILLY. Wild there do not bring back. Down IN CORONA question. But do you think you could play a game without fans I think for basketball? Because it's indoor it would be. It would be so one year overseas. We were like getting ready for this like huge final four tournament for Euroleague. Whatever and we knew we were going to be loud because a lot of the gyms are smaller and it's like standing room only so the places are like crazy loud and so our coach did like crowd noise and I gotTa admit like we were just practicing it was. It wasn't so bad it's like it's just it's loud so as long as you have that for basketball you'll just kind of get lost in the game. Will it be weird? Yeah like of course but whatever. I think as long if it's on TV. That's all we want anyways. I think what they need to do. Start modeling this out right now to do a powered crowd noise so you can go with. The momentum of the crap is otherwise. It's like computer is going to make up like a home game. This is an away game. They should maybe advantage. He just have a guy who can push the button you know. But there's gotta be gotTA model at out so where it's it's not someone it's like Bennett. Becomes becomes. Part of the event is like who has better guy like the one that played defense at the right. I don't really good you. What's what's the thing they're trying to do now. I think the NBA. It's like keep entire both teams and game operations under fifty people. You know if they get the like we do it with forty nine. It could get like one dude. And it could be tryouts. Every home team gets one guy appealing. It's I actually. I think it will become the new normal. I think by game fear four years and it's normal. How like and obviously will WANNA play with fans I mean. I want to play fans every game. But it's likely that we're not gonNA play fans for a while so I I actually am curious to see what the experiences like watching the game on television with no fans and how that like visually how it looks like how into you can really be watching a game. But no chance. It's almost like watching. You need a camera tall guys that I think. Espn started like now it's going arenas higher other like doing this other angle an NBA Games. This year drove me nuts too far. They were like going like high can say everything. No I like like I don't know I don't need to see everything adult the angle Definitely do like like what staple center does break. It's Kinda like the spotlight like a stage lighting. So they'll just like the fact that maybe they should do it at your door you off as a shooter things. They're talking about the G. League like the G. League sites Yeah I don't think I don't think we're GONNA play games like I don't know I don't know anything. Nobody does anything. Arenas can I tell you guys my idea which might be terrible but you can tell if it's bad to the NBA needs to have a champion. They need to have some sort of closure on this season. But obviously there. You're not going to be able to get to a place where you can play whatever. How many games were left like twenty five games or whatever it was like eighteen? You're not going to get to that point so I think they should July or somewhat over the summer. They should pick a random high school gym in the middle of the country. Like the hoosiers. Jim Whatever that is tickets Indiana. Send all the teams there. Corn team basically everybody every team and player option. Did a gym fits. Nobody doesn't matter. They're no fans and basically do a March madness tournaments sigel limitation top. Two teams so Lakers bucks. Get A by. They don't they. Don't have a plan to replace thirty. Everyone has a chance and so like this would give a team of team. That wasn't in the playoffs. The PELICANS for example this grey roster the Pelicans get hot telecasts championship. You GotTa Win. You GotTa Win Five Games or whatever it is nuts it maybe maybe Klay Thompson comes back now. Maybe Katie plays praise. Maybe planning heart disease if you get to the finals those two teams do they play series. It's still just single in the nation. I think it's like March madness. A big everything single elimination game up the ratings of six. I'M GONNA poke in this idea. The idea one giant worn team four hundred fifty NBA players and none of those in a random city. And none of those guys are gonNA fly in roadwork not so. Here's my counter. Here's my counter to that whole because that's a fair one. Spanish soccer players like jail right now out to friends. Okay so you can see you. Gigi Jim and Oklahoma's do call it the National Guard. You have the law of the last hour. No one is allowed. Does not have a certain badge as a lot in this area Exceptions I'm not there to earn their. It's just the players. I think you'd be fun. Dowling me fine rating day. Where'd you where'd you rank in the ESPN top college? Thin among so. I'm a little bit how we would shacks rock. I literally was like. I didn't expect my knee. I wasn't expecting anything I was like. Oh shake seed and then it was like the nine seed in the east region. Shaquille O'Neal I was like I got why. What was the eleven seed one? The first round Larry fucking bird in the second like no chance of exit. Eleven seat is Ross shaft grade. I you guys have been awesome. Thanks for your patience thank you. We appreciate both amazing guests update so much and I'm calling calling you. 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Championship Duo: Sue Bird & Megan Rapinoe

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

1:19:58 hr | 2 years ago

Championship Duo: Sue Bird & Megan Rapinoe

"A wedding is a beautiful thing as long as it doesn't fall on a Saturday during college football season. Those Saturdays are reserved for the union of two rivals a celebration of fans coming together to trash talk one another at Buffalo Wild Wings. We believe that a wedding planner needs to own a football calendar and our bars are full of beer drinking when eating fans who agree with us unless you're secretly trying to cut down your guest list, then kudos on the great strategy. Buffalo Wild Wings escaped to football. Please drink responsibly. That's what she said. That's what she said. That's what she's at what she said. Well, that's what she said. But she said conversations with interesting people from the world sports music comedy and more talking about their lives for Weir's successes. Jay said, and I'm not gonna lie. This is one of my favorite ones. Yet, Meghan repaint. Oh and sue bird together talking about their sports careers how they met what's next when they retire. Hopefully, not anytime soon, but when they do retire activism in their sports other interests, and and health and need for interest in and things that they care about outside of sports when they came out publicly and why their decision to do the body issue all sorts of good stuff. These are just massive like athlete goals. Couple goals. People goals activist goals. I love these two women, and I really hope you guys enjoyed the conversation. So here I am chatting with sue bird and Meghan repeat. Oh, that's what she said. I know every week. I say I'm super excited for my guest. And I am no offense to any previous guests always super excited. That's totally genuine. But this week. I'm so excited to talk to sue bird and Meghan repeal. And I've already warned them that. I'm not. To say all of their awards and accomplishments because that would take the whole pod. But you guys know who they are Meghan routine. Ogled medalists World Cup champ. First and only player score a goal Olympic at the Olympic Games. She's been on the Seattle reign since two thousand thirteen on a Seattle storm. We got sue bird to AA champs three WNBA champs. Four Olympic gold. Medals eleven all star teams leader in assists. Most starts most WNBA games. Played top twenty player of all time. Basically, these are some bad ass bitches. And I am so excited to talk to both the view on this product liked to start at the beginning. So I actually Megan want to start with what sounds like a quite idyllic high high school in childhood experience in writing California, you got six siblings. You got a twin played outside a ton honor. Roll every semester soccer at a high level track hoops was it as sort of all American perfect as it sounds. He kind of was is that boring. No. It was pretty chill. We were my sister and under the youngest of six a couple of or kind of out they'll say, we're spoiled. I mean, I just say we deserve it. But another story. Dead, but especially early on growing up kind of lived on a little bit land. So it was basically the rule was my mom has this. Crazy whistle that she can do. So like go out and play do whatever you want. But don't be late after you hear the whistle. Otherwise, you're big trouble. I love that six siblings and twin there's probably every article that you've read tells you something about what your personality should be based on those things which one is the most accurate. I think I'd probably said to stereotypes I gladly embrace and not the youngest of the twins as well. So Rato's always like everyone forgets that I'm the baby of the family too. And you have all of these benefits. I gladly embraced the the youngest child that just sort of deferred a responsibility to the older ones. Great love it. So you go on to play collegiately, and you terrier ACL your software, and I read that you talked about that sort of changing your perspective on sport was that. Because it was go go go your entire life. I mean, you were coached even by your data young level. So it sounds like something that was even a family activity. Did that just give you some time to like look at whether you still love loved it and wanted to do it or what else do you wanted to cultivate? Well, I actually did it two times in a row. So the first time I was just like, oh, no. This is fine. I'm gonna come back so quick, and I'm awesome. And like, you know, twenty one and stupid and and totally invisible. Even I just told me feel so that was the first process that it wasn't really until the second time that happened that I kind of step back, and it was like, okay, I need to be a lot more patient and sorta work on other perks myself, and I feel like that's where a lot of the the growing happened, and sort of the perspective happened of does not being I guess a little arrogant thinking that I could do it all myself. I'm going to come back so quick and just wanted to come back and just took my time. And I think that's kind of where my philosophy on injuries. Probably was solidified. I'm not one to like grind through everything got through. And I'm like, no, I don't feel right. Then I'm gonna take the time to get it. Right. And make sure that I took it on the field. So I can do it. I want how many. Tears. Are we up to now in total three three I know that out with the old in with a male just keep getting new parts and sticking them in there. See how long they last. You're also you sounded like you were a very successful kid growing up on Long Island soccer tennis track. Same sort of deal wasn't as idyllic as that sounded although it was Long Island. No judgment. Immediate judgment fine. I get it. We like to call it strong island. I think that's right. Yeah. It was to make its point kind of boring. Just got up played sports all day every day. And yeah, when my mom yelled, come home for dinner. That's what that's what I did. But it was fun. I mean, I I had a great childhood, and you had an older sister. Who was at that? It goes. Well, see sort of were following her footsteps. Yeah. Yeah. So she's five or older names. Jen and five is is not a great, you know, amount when you're younger. So I was always trying to, you know, follow her be like her, and I be annoying little sister. She wanted no part. Now, we're much closer. Which is great five years is perfect now. But when we were younger as well as different, but I was lucky and that she was into sports was was really good at school. So she set the bar super high. And I was just always trying to get to it you go off to uconn. And was your relationship with Gene-o right away. Something where you knew he was going to bring out the best in you. Or was that something that takes a little time because it's Gino, and it's uconn. Yeah. No. You don't you don't realize it at first you're told very quickly by the upperclassmen like, listen, if he's not yelling at you. Then you have a problem until you're, you know, you're like whatever you are seventeen eighteen years old when I get there, and you're you're constantly being yelled that you can't really make that connection until much later. Well, and then ACL tear for you. This was earlier freshman season. How did that affect you? Mentally in terms of you already hit considered maybe not going to uconn because there were there had been two point guards that committed. So once one of them stepped away you figured you'd be able to find your your space in your role. Was there a concern about coming back from that and still being as dominant as you had hoped to be? I think what happened with me was good research, by the way because there was two point guards that were committed there and then. Yeah. One of them they kinda were saying, oh, we still want you to come if they confusing, but then yet one of decommitted, and then I stepped in. And then I'd actually won the starting spot as a freshman, which is like unheard of. I only played those only played eight games before. I tell my she, Al. But what happened when I got hurt was in those eight games. I did not play. Well, so yeah, I did enough to get the spot. But it was really just between me and the other freshman point guard that was on the team there weren't any other point guards. So it was like I beat out some upperclassmen or something so point being I I was not was not playing. Well. So when the injury happened it was a wakeup call. I guess kinda similar to what Meghan saying it was like all of a sudden this this this game was taken away from me. I probably just been taking it for granted. Like, oh, I'm good at this. I'll be fine. No big deal. And then boom, I can't play. Now. It's like all these question marks. But the next year. I remember the classic. Like cut out the article mine was oh, you con-, you know, they could win the national championship. But the big question Mark because that point guard, and that's like what motivated me for the remainder. So it just it's filled me it one hundred percents field mate. And then I'm pretty sure had it not happen. I wouldn't I wouldn't have had the career I had in college and beyond. So you're in politics, and for a lot of people, that's sort of it, if it's not an Olympic level sport. Or it's not, you know, something where there's a professional league. But for basketball by then the WNBA existed, and there was that to avoid to gold medal teams and world change teams were something to look forward to when you entered Yukon, knowing what a high level they play out and how recruited you were was that. Always the dream was always I'm gonna play basketball until the wheels. Fall off. Someone tells me I can't anymore. Yes. And no. If I so talking about that ACL injury, probably like a couple of months into my my Rahab or after my surgery. My my parents got a call. I didn't find this out till years later sidebar by my parents got a call and it's from the coaching staff. I know like we're worried about what worried about what why what's going on? And they're like she's taking this too. Well, she's hanging out with your friend moving life like this. She's taking this to well, we're concerned. And okay. So point being again like basketball was was is obviously a humongous part of my life. It's it's a part of who I am and all that other stuff. But I always I always kind of have this other side to me, you know, that I could easily tap into whether it was friend or hang out or just even though it takes up. I mean now it's kinda hard to even say this. But 'cause it takes up so much of my time. But even though it takes up so much of my time and so much of my mental space. It's not like mine tire being so as it pertained to like being a professional playing. Olympics. I just kind of took it as it came. And it was like, okay. I remember coach Obama was the assistant for the two thousand Olympics when he came back to that experience. So I was just now and during my junior year, and he was like, hey, if you wanna be the Olympic point guard like you have a chance, and I was like, oh, I do. Okay. Try that you know what? I mean. I'm the same with being drafted. It was like oh the drafts coming up. Hey, you might get picked number one. I was like really okay never say that I get that. I didn't care. I wasn't motivated in trying. But I just I always had this this odd balance that I I don't know. I just was who I was. So that's kind of how that all voted. It probably helps you might one of my best friends is a two time Olympic pole vaulter and inbetween her jumps. She would just like read glamour magazine and not. Probably helped her. She just didn't get in her head about it. Yeah. Italy in soccer, you kind of after no earlier because of youth teams, and and you can play at the national level so much younger. What was that? Like for you growing up was always the goal. Did you know that this was going to be something that would cause you to travel all over the world and compete internationally, not really to be honest. I've been always loved playing, and that was the the sport that I was into the most I think it was a little bit of a late lumers. So I wasn't on like every team or every ODP team. I didn't really kind of break in until like, maybe my junior year. So it's kind of a late bloomer in that. So I was kind of just sort of going along with it. I'm like, I don't really know. I know I'm good. But I, you know, I'm not I'm not better than like all these other players who are doing all these things I think for me early on. It was more like focus on college and getting into college and get a scholarship and all that. But I think sort of at the end of highschool, it kind of dawned on me a little bit that maybe there was some some bigger opportunity there as much as the professional soccer leagues allow you a bit more stability in terms of of playing and the ability to play more often, they're they're less steady than you know, World Cup and Olympics, which is always coming back around. So was that tough for you to be a part of this group than I plays in the WPA? And then watch you watch the Chicago red stars go away. Then you join magic Jack. And then the league goes away altogether that sort of moving along. And taking your talents to wherever you can use them. How is that? In terms of not knowing what's coming next or if it's gonna last. Frustrating, 'cause you just I mean, I think in a broad sense. You just want there to be, you know, sustainable league, we feel like we have a, you know, a good product. There's enough good players. And he want that to be successful lucky for us on the national team. We did sort of have that stability because we do so much with the national team the national. There was more like a club team to be honest. Well, we're with them more than any other professional team. But I always love having a leak, honestly, it's nice having a little break from the national team. Live in one space and to kind of have a different by play with different players. And I just kind of get a different perspective. But we were always very lucky to have that consistency. But I think everyone feels say, you know, it's only twenty people to that that really have that consistency which is not really the best. So I was way worse for the other players who either had to go overseas or figure something out at home, and sort of where we're like truly waiting in the balance of of whether league was going to come back or not we always had at least some sense of stability. Yeah. Absolutely. Sue, the WNBA was about five years old. I think when you were drafted number one. What was that like for you? Does it feel like in the time that you've been in the league, which is I think this is going to be your sixteenth year? Right. Where we are. Now. Oh, I think it's seventy now seventeen get complete computing. How differently do maybe viewed the league or or your role? I mean, not your role because that's clearly very different. But the league it's out from when you were drafted in to to where it is. Now, did you expect to be playing as long as you are? I definitely I don't know what I expected in terms of length. I didn't really think I expected anything thought anything. It's just kind of in going and now I'm like classic like someone to be like, oh, you know, ten years ago, and I'm like guys weren't in the league ten years ago. It's just me now like no around all these players who have no idea about the early early parts of it. And when I look back on when I first got drafted those first couple of years. I mean, God, I think so difficult so differently of the league. Now, I mean, first and foremost, the the product itself is by far the best it's ever been like a town on the core at the individual talent, which is gonna lead to team talent and competitiveness and Terry. And all that good stuff. It's it's the best. I mean, we've had mastery years in a row like epic epic play-off whether exciting and it's coming down to, you know, decisive games and last-second shots and all that kind of good stuff. So that's that's the good news. When I think of the basketball like just on the court park, it's grown so much. Much. And I mean, that's just survival of the fittest. Right. Twelve teams twelve roster spots you have to be really really good to make a WNBA team. There's no other leak like that except for maybe Meghan. And so when I saw when I think of obstacle it. And I think back on my earlier's. I'm like, oh my God. They made put me in a dress. And they made me say, I'm not gonna send you think. I am what like. Like some of the stuff looking back that they were trying to push. And so and like, you're young like now, I know I mean like Meghan. I bet you could agree to this like you'll be doing a photo shoot or something. And then the photographer or someone who doesn't know soccer movements or baffling movements. They'll be like, okay. Now, you know, put your hand up here and do that. And you're like, no that's dumb. I'm not doing that. No. I don't know. Like, I know this is gonna look like it's going to be bad but back then like, I didn't know I was like okay like sex. So let's do this. And that was just not right approach at all. I think are like five years Sixers later suffered for it. And kinda took a dip and now, hopefully, we're we're going to get back on track and figure out what works best. Oh, absolutely. I mean that basketball love story showed some of those early clips of somebody in leather pants crawling across the hood of a car and dine atrocity in like, the fun is just so uncomfortable to watch it. Because you don't know that on have that picture. Like ready to send to her whenever she's acting like an aide whole like oh my God. Believe me that is like the best. I mean, they shouldn't have. It's terrible. Yeah. Well, what's interesting too is in talking about women's sports? A lot of times we'll use the US women's national soccer team, as this example of what it can be like to have cultural capital to be something who will the runs to the World Cup and the Olympics. I hosted some of the US W N T watch parties in in Chicago and Lincoln park with like hundreds and hundreds of fans, you know, screaming their heads off dressed up like loving this and living and dying for US women's soccer. But the professional league is sort of in a less sturdy place, then the WNBA so it's really the lens through which you you're looking at it. But I guess like let's start with you sue when you talk to Meghan about what it's like to be a part of something sort of universally beloved and not really degradate it. And then you talk about the WNBA that's still. Fighting off these these a holes who feel the need to criticize what are you talking about? You talk about how that was accomplished or how you might get there as WNBA. I mean, we've talked about it, you know, to the death and Ozzy. I don't know that we have like any exact answers, and it's tough. It's like you can kind of as a pertains to the WNBA you can you can kind of talk around these larger issues these deep seated issues and talk about oh, we're not marketed guy, or you know, we need the investment from this lesson that, but I think part of it is our league is very gay and very black. And and it's hard to avoid that. And people don't wanna hear that. But it is a part of it. And you know, the other other aspects where you know, I know this is something I'm silver had said where young girls aren't playing basketball as much anymore. Like, what is that? Like, why is that happening? Yeah. You can definitely dissect that, and there's tons of things you can buy sacked and then talk about and again, we have. And it's still today. We don't know I think megabytes and better like with the national team. They do have an we kind of sense this a little bit with our national team. There's the USA part, right? It's like you're cheering for your country. That's that's similar to. Maybe what if I were to compare it in basketball, like what I what I feel about that the vibe, I get from a Yukon fan versus and the WNBA like Yukon. It's like, no I'm Yukon fan like they don't care who's there. What's happening there saying that the school famous with the country? So when you're wearing USA it kinda changes things a little bit. Yeah. Meghan. What would you say about that? Because I do think there's. Yeah. There's this patriotism aspect of it. There's also a lot of ways those issues of it being aesthetically pleasing, right? Most of the women aren't significantly taller than the average. Man. It's maybe a game that not every guy plays pickup and thinks he's going to beat you in. Yeah. We'll get to that. The aesthetics of watching soccer too, though. I enjoy watching women's soccer more you guys flop less. You don't need the stupid. Magic spray that apparently fix this. Stupid. Magic spray on every injury. But yeah, I mean, how does that feel for you? Especially in watching sue in the WNBA deal with that book. Well, I it's interesting because it's like I feel like a lot of people approach this problem with like. Wow. That is so complicated. We just can't figure it out. I'm like not seeing the obvious. What's happening? I think it's just what what is said like unless somebody can come up with a with a better example of just kind of latent like sexism. And that's kinda seems like that's what it is. It's like anytime, you know, any of these women are media post anything it's like the kitchen comments like what we're really we're still there with the kitchen comments like what what are we talking about? So I feel like it's a lot more simple than maybe people wanna make it just 'cause that's uncomfortable to make it that simple. And it's pretty clear. What's happening? I think with a national team just as you said, it's it's this whole sort of traveling circus type man, I mean, everybody loves to be patriotic. We've always been branded as sort of girl. Next door kind of team in general, not just the stars of the team. But for the most part the whole team in general has has been sort of branded that and it's easy to get on board and an easy for marketers to kind of make sense of it. It's just kind of basically the status quo. So I feel like authenticity is always the, you know, the sort of best practice, and in marketing, doesn't, you know, maybe if even if you're sort of marketing and do idea if it's coming off as real than it's been it makes sense, and it resonates with people, and I think, you know, sort of living what she said early on the WNBA just trying to fit this sort of square peg instead of just owning it all this is who we are. And this is why our stories are interesting. And this is why you should watch. If you kind of try to make it something else when people are already resistant to it. Then it's not going to resonate with them at all. Yeah. Absolutely. You sue you were timing in because this is something you, and I've talked about before this idea. Of you know, every guy thinks that he's the equivalent of Evan NBA player. And if you set up a camera in his pickup game to why people would be good. He is not realizing that like every other place a turnover or a with nearby oil. I just haven't gotten my shot yet. Right. Exactly. Did he not? But you've talked about the idea of like if every guys like I can dunk on your you're like great. I'm better at the game of basketball. And I think in talking to Candace Parker, it certainly feels like a younger generation is growing up with this more normalized idea of of women's basketball. And and the WNBA does it feel like that's changing at least, despite the fact that social media is still full of holes. Yeah. I mean, you bring that up. So it's like wasn't. I'm like social media. And I have a love hate like, I get it. And I liked some aspects. And of course, like everyone else, I hate some aspects. And you know, every now and then like even with this Denver Nuggets job. It's like things got posted. I mean, what do you think they're idiots who are like, oh, she she got hired for heads. Stuff like stupid stuff like that. And you're just like, well, but then, you know, I get curious and I'll be like, oh, let me see this guy's profile. So like click on something. And a lot of times was scares me. Is that it's like a teenage boy, you know, like a high school kid, and that to me is like a little army because I do agree with canvas. And I do think that there's a large percentage of the the younger population. That are watching basketball seeing it it is normal. They don't necessarily compare themselves. It just it's a part of their the same way that the NBA is a part of our lives or whatever splits league, it's a part of their life. And they've you it in a normal way. I guess so, but but then every now, and then you do cook on that profound. He see if a young kid, and you're like, oh, God, it's going to be he's going to be thirty one day and doing the same thing, you know. So that goes kind of scare me. But it is they they signed you up. It's because everyone thinks they're basketball player, you know, even my own friends at times. So like have these these these comments about? Like, oh, I could have ridge this in the WNBA. And I'm like, dude, really like, that's how you think of it. But he would never I don't think they would ever say that to Meghan 'cause they didn't place necessarily play soccer. You know? So that's kind of where the basketball I think does take a little bit more of a hit. I I've always thought that that it it just feels natural and comfortable because everyone's just picked up a basketball and shot before. And then they've got these delusions of grandeur. And then part of that is too. I think like you mentioned the way the sports started and very outspoken critics. I had her back logo on the pod. And I have to ask you guys, wouldn't it obviously wouldn't be a male writer. But if if you met a female sports writer and your relationship started by her saying that she slept with thousand women because they were all napping their way through a game would you ever marry them? I'm so impressed by Rebecca Lobo being able to forgive and move on. I'm like, I would be like I would be angry at that person for life. Steve right that I don't even think I know this is. That's they met. Today without ever really watching it. And he claimed he went to. This many thousand women it was more than Wilt Chamberlain because they all took a nap together during a boring WNBA game. And then she ended up telling him like I'm gonna I'm gonna show you. I'm going to take your show, you how fun it is. And what great product it is. And they fell in love. I know the engaging story. I don't think I knew that part. I'm how this part. Yeah. That's. Muggy better bigger. Let's talk about you guys meeting because it's kind of actually rare. I think Meghan to be with the same team for so long since two thousand thirteen to be with the Seattle reign and with with SU so long with the storm how long into kind of both playing in in that city. Did you guys meet each other? And how was it? You know, sparks flying. We really didn't meet each other until was it two thousand sixteen. Yeah. We've sort of been I think we both like then two games and done that. But we've never actually really met or had a conversation at all the first time, I really met was at like one of those big Olympic media day kind of like car wash things in LA. We don't have the same agent. But we're sort of in the same agency in my agent used to be her agent. So whatever I was talking to him. He was like, oh you ever met. She she was walking by let me some stupid joke, which I still regret for the down. It was so dumb. It was like we're in this whole media thing. So you go from like, bop, bop? Bop, bop. So like, you're done up you like make up and hair and sometimes your regular clothes. Sometimes you you're in new uniform. So she was like inner uniform like her hair down and everything like dumb joke after it's like she soon as you walked away. I was like damn it. What did you say? I was basically like oh, you're going to a game. And it was filled on. I would like, no. Yeah. Like. Yes. Sushi was kind of like, oh like it was sort of in passing as we were going gonna just both walked are opposite ways. I was like oh God. Well, it was a bear thing. And then we didn't really meet. Again until the Olympics. My team didn't do very well bombed out way early. So they're in a few of us that just decided to stay just because we were already down there. And we kind of had this in between week before we had to get back. So we were going to different events and kind of hanging out in sort of peripheral same groups again with the agency a couple of our agents were there. So it's kind of hanging out them. And that they were going to the games and stuff and. Yeah. Sort of met there, and then got not until we were back in Seattle a few weeks later. So do it. Nothing but down the road pick. Yeah. Who invited who on the date or did you make it sound like you were just gonna hang? I guess go. Sorry. Get right. That was actually I'm totally deferring ahead. We actually ended up going to dinner when we got back from Rio. We again, our agent was in town, if they're like, the matchmakers, I guess and all of this ended up going to dinner, but I was dating someone at the time. So it was. Yeah. Part of it. And then I guess just started talking about after that, my relationship had ended and. Then there she was looking shoes. So Meghan, you came out publicly in two thousand twelve why then and was most of your family and friends Ardy aware was this something that you were keeping from everyone. No. I don't think that. I don't think I kept it from anyone actually. I think this is like. I have. Yeah. This or no good or I I didn't have this like struggling story. Oftentimes when I get asked about it. And and obviously because a lot of people struggled, you know, very long, and, you know, very hard with it. But I didn't really it didn't I didn't even have these moments in high school. I was like, oh, maybe I'm like, I didn't think about it all looking back. I mean, major oversight. But it wasn't until college. And then as soon as I like figured it out for myself of like, oh, great. This is awesome. Now. Okay. So that wasn't really an issue told my parents and my family, and they are fine. And then it wasn't. Yeah. I guess that was like early in college. And then I came out, and I was twenty six so everyone in my life had already known. I guess the reason why it's started to become sort of like I felt like I had to lie about it or sort of like omit things like not come out. Not because I wasn't comfortable. But I was like oh my coming out. But then it was like. This is when I want to do it in this like sideline. Yeah. And I was like, yeah. Like, why am I not out? This is like are that I'm not out because I want to be out. Hey, everybody. Don't forget to go to ESPN and apple podcasts and subscribe to. That's what she said was Sarah Spain. So you always have the latest episode. Don't forget to rate and review it as well until all your friends. How awesome it is? When tracking the domestic runny, you find them hiding under wardrobes next to Las soaks. Due to the oil scarring off what's the fest meeting about the dust bunny? Is that ov- o- they'll actually sent the creatures when they have it saves people money, but also has ninety seven percents customer satisfaction rating. It's obvious to them. You should switch because Yesler. Switching Geico is a no brainer. Oh, no. It's the dust on his own natural predator on the lung doesn't on his run along. In the sport of soccer in general on the teams that you were on was it clearly open arms. No concern about how this would affect either your brand or your teammates. Obviously, they're very publicly been a member of the national team. That's that's been open about not wanting to participate in pride days. Was there any concern? Or was it that I mean everybody already knew so you felt accepted. Yeah. I didn't I didn't feel any sort of post back at all. I mean, I'm sure that there have been players and our players and will continue to be players that sort of in their heart of hearts feel differently. But I think on the whole our team has always tried to be pretty progressive and open and hot that kind of inclusive environment. So that was that was kind of a non-issue at that point. Sue Meghan forced you to come out publicly. That made them up real quick. And she made you pose naked with her like right away. Just make sure. Sure. Let's talk about so twenty seventeen for you. And one of the biggest, you know, first things everyone saw was the cover of the body issue. The first gay couple to be on the cover. Why 2017 for you? And because you spoke earlier about some of the stereotypes of the WNBA was there a fear of of fitting into something that people had criticized the league for. Good question. So the why it's like we can joke and say, you know, Megan four state, but the truth is when I started dating Meghan. I mean, I kind of knew like, okay, this is someone who is out. She is open. So in a lot of ways, I do you know what I was getting into her for lack of raising it. So I was already comfortable, you know, I in a lot of ways I think I did come out in large part because of Megan. But I'd always there was always in the back of my mind, probably for not like a crazy long time. But I would say for a good two years prior to meeting Meghan. I was like why don't I just come out 'cause to to what Megan was saying? It's like it just makes things so much easier. Now, like now that I have everyone knows I don't have to like, you know, when they're maybe you're meeting someone for the first time like in a business type setting. And maybe they're asking you. Oh, you dating anyone. I don't know that probably wouldn't happen. But you get what I'm saying. And then you have to when you're not out you have to like. Oh, you have to basically have all these little come outs along the way, you just do one big one. And then call it a day. And then it's over so for for a while. I was I was wanting to do it. But I just couldn't I don't know. I just did it and I never find the right way to do it and whatnot. But then when I started any Meghan. I kind of knew that that day would probably gonna come. And then it did. And it wasn't difficult or hard. And and I never struggled with growing up either. Maybe like at the very start like initially like the first time, I kind of realized was probably in college. And. Yeah, at that point. I mean, 'cause like it was I mean, it was you know, the late nineties early two thousands. It was a little different, you know, even within my own team. And obviously now people know that there's some of those women are also gates. So it's kind of funny that all of us, Dan, what kind of being like, oh that person's gay? Oh my God. I talking about it. But that's just like what it was like, that's like what the I don't know what the climate. I guess was socially. And how you talked about. It. So yeah, there's definitely some early on like, I think I'm gay, and I don't wanna be the so, but that quickly went away, and you bring up the WNBA being in the WNBA, and you know, obviously in terms of like my peers and being on the team going to the season and our fan base. I never I didn't not come out. Because of that, you know. I'd never I didn't. Yeah. It never prevented me. Like, I I really never thought to myself. Oh, I'm going gonna lose this sponsorship deal. I didn't. 'cause at that point a lot of people were starting to come out. And you could see it wasn't that big of a deal. Even I think you just that at some point it just comes down to you. And when's right for you? And for whatever reason it wasn't right until I was thirty six. I mean, I have an idea making was like, you know, twenty six for me a little bit longer. We're your friends and family aware for most of your life. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, the only people I feel like I was actually coming out to we're like reporters, and you know, the casualty. Yeah. Strangers basically like the people who are going to be writing about that kind of thing like everybody. There was nobody who read that article. And was that knew me for longer than five seconds. That was shocked or didn't know where it came out of nowhere. No, not at all. Yeah. It's funny. You mentioned that, you know, most people aren't gonna ask dating. I of course, welcome Elena Delle down to Chicago when she gets drafted. We'd go get Chicago deep dish. And just doesn't tall woman is coming to Chicago. All your in my city, you're gonna love it. The men are so tall, you know, mid west corn. Mike. I know. So then when she came out I like had her on the pot, and I'm like, you maybe look like such an idiot. You were like, yeah. Great. That sounds good. Yeah. And I tried to set her up with this guy that worked at Nike. She's like, oh, yeah. You you like went out of your way to take out a draft pick who's new to a city. That doesn't even matter. I will forgive myself. Then let's talk about the body issue. What was the reaction? And was there any fear at all whether it's just about being naked or your family or anybody else? Maybe maybe start with you, Meghan. No. There was no fear. I feel like if you agree to it. If you are willing to say yes to do the body issue. Then once you get there, you're you're sort of already the kind of person who's not going to be Q shy about dropping rope. No, the fear is always just that. Like, they pick a picture that you don't like 'cause you don't get to pick. What you want? They sort of curate the whole thing for all that flights. So it's like you wanna get the one that you want which goes back to what who is saying on photo shoots of like, basically, if you see something say something if you feel like you look weird in it. And if you don't want it to go to print don't ever snap the photo. 'cause you you just never know what's going to happen. But mostly it's just yeah. Making sure that we look good and look together and had all this covered. That's right. Suzanne for you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I joke. It's like at this point. I've been in so many locker rooms taking so many showers. It's like I don't care if I'm naked around people like it. There's the initial when when you're out there, and they're like, okay. It's time got his boss. There's like, okay. But then ask cameras and showers, so that's part of. But that's that's very true. That's very true. But yeah, after that even like during a break like do you want your robes back? We're like knowledge just keep going like, we don't even like who care get this. Like, you just want to get the shot going. You don't want to be there for. Yeah. I loved the I remember you guys talking about sort of bugging other about nutrition and working out beforehand to make sure you both look your best. And sue is always the one that has to nag Meghan about Lia eat, and you're going to be fine. We'll get a burger and a couple of months is this an everyday life or just prepping for the bunch. I mean. I was like speaking bars and like making half sandwiches at practice. It was so good. And so two strict she has so much more. So so like so cranky like by the end by the end. I was like I am ready to be eating whatever the I want like I'm like, we didn't go on like crazy dia. But we know different though, we do eat like very healthy. And it's pretty like immigrants gave it it is pretty strict, generally. So it's like, then when you start taking other stuff out I was like, what are we going to drop like? There's nothing to. Good. A little less a little less than the normal. Oh, no. We were we were like supplementing in other ways, right? Like we had like, carb drinks that. We would take they were like just for training. I mean, it was it was it was working. But to like, it's like we were just eating just a little bit less than normal, which is already like I feel like we eat actually think we are regular diet is actually like it's a lot. It's just not necessarily like the good stuff about like a panda. It's not this. It's not that. But it's like a lot of Bali. But this is just like a little bit less where it was like. I could have had like, yeah. Like two plates of that easier three plates of that. But I'm just telling but yeah, it's definitely the enforcer. That's like every time I've called the whole thirty. I'm like I'm gonna try that whole thirty. And then I'm like. Remind myself what I want to do. And then I'm like, wait a minute. I can't even have beans, and I I haven't been eating meat lately. So Mike, all right, never mind. And then every time when he's a couple months later. I'm like let me try now that's not going to work out. Thirty look so hard so hard. Go have either of you guys ever dated in non athlete, and is it easier to have somebody who has to go take ice, baths and worry about nutrition and care about their body in this way. Or is it nice sometimes to have a counterpart that that doesn't stress you out with the exact same stuff that you have to worry about. I think we both have dated not athletes, and I personally think that it's it's easier. I I hear what you're saying that. Yeah. It at times. Maybe it's nice to not have the exact same stress happening at the exact same time in two people. But I think it's nice to have somebody who understands like completely. And so while you're feeling stress, even if they're simultaneously stress. There's also like an element where they're like. No. 'cause they get it. They're like, no, no like tomorrow will be better or just come on just stand style at the burgers in a week. Just wait to sit. You know? So someone who could totally gets it. I think I prefer don't wanna speak the out, and yeah, it is it is easier. I think 'cause you're kind of like your priorities are the same. And while you're stresses are the same in that can be overwhelming. Sometimes it's both people are like going to a stressful moment or having amount count. Usually. It's you're not doing that. At the same time. You can kind of buffer each other in a way and a lot of times are. Stresses or breakdowns are like totally irrational ones, where you're just like having this moment for whatever reason. That's like you feel like the world is ending. But it's really just not you just need to go like, do your workout and get rid of the guilt that you're feeling until you do it. So I find that we sort of can like motivate and buffer and understand and encourage sort of all at the same time. And it's nice to have your priorities the same. If we're like, you know, wanna during the week be super super boring and just sit around and eat healthy, and workout and relaxed than both people are are sort of feeling that the same time. Yeah. What about travel because Suez if you aren't busy enough winning WNBA championships and make like just so low highlight reels mid game, you just took a job with the Denver Nuggets is Invesco basketball operations associate in the front office how much travel is that gonna be? And and what are you most excited about in terms of taking on this new gig? So I don't have to move there or anything like that. Which is great. And then like immediately I sat down with my schedule with you know, what could be my potential Denver Nuggets schedule 'cause I will have to go there. Probably like what will turn out to be once a month for like X amount of days. Not sure could be four could be more just kind of figuring that out. And then there are aspects of it where he goes scout. So maybe I go watch, you know, this team versus team in wherever so, but like I said a mealy sat down with that's my schedule of that potential schedule, and then Meghan schedule, and it actually, and I the way I think this all goes is as it pertains to both of our schedules. Like, sometimes it works out. Sometimes it doesn't you have to be okay. Either way, you know, like last summer. I'm sorry. Two summers ago our schedules worked out perfectly and then this past summer. It was a little harder. We were kind of one was on the other way vice versa. But this actually worked out pretty well. So I'm super excited about that. That's just like an. Added bonus for the most part when I have to Denver Meg it'll be gone. So it really works out. And I think we do a good job. We have like a sink calendar. And we try to do as best we can to to make things work. And if you know, even if one has downtime, you know, where they they might wanna just like chill at home. But the other is somewhere in America doing something. We'll try to go and be with that person. So I think we do a pretty good job. Like, I said, it's you have to kind of tea. I try not to get. That's put you on blast. But she'll get a little more likely. Wait, we're going to be a wet. And I'm like with him last week. We were here together. We're not you gotta think. Would I not helping? Has worked out. Yeah. You're yeah. You're better at that. And I'm not. Yeah. But. Yeah. It's it's tough with any, you know, with anybody. But when you guys have so much travel and international travel and otherwise to sue I'm not pushing you out of the WNBA because you need to play forever and never leave us. And I said it w summit that you're like RV, I'm just gonna I'm just came. And then I heard that by the way, I think. Perfect at all. But but as you are entering. Season seventeen and as you're taking on gigs outside of it. How much are you thinking about what's next in what you'd want to do next? Oh, yeah. I've been thinking about that for for a long time. I totally respect that as an athlete like. This is this is your identity. It's like more than your job. And I know this goes for for a lot of people on their jobs. It's more. It's your identity. It's what I've been doing since. I was like six years old. And I understand, and I I quickly did once I stopped going overseas which was like four years ago. I leave maybe more. Now, I was like I need to figure out what I'm gonna do. Because if there's just if one day comes and I can't play anymore, and I have to retire and it's suddenly stops. And I'm just like now what I'm going to be in a lot of trouble. Like, I can send it I would be in a lot of trouble. So I've gone out of my way to try to see like what what's out there for me. What am I interested in? And this is just another step in that direction with the never nuggets. And you know, I've said before it's it's I just kind of had coaching and front office stuff like GM, and all that that was just something that I thought in my own mind like I just put it in its own little corner of I can't really try call. I'm done. But then this opportunity presented itself where they made it really easy for me to do both. And that's what made it. So easy to take. And I'm basically just going to be learning. That's really all this is it's it's it's about learning and kind of developing helping whenever I can. But obviously, I'm very new to this. So it was kind of a no brainer. But yeah, I didn't you know, I've been thinking about this for like four or five years now what's left to accomplish in basketball. What's what's the goal now? So it's interesting you asset because in a lot of ways. I and I've said this it's I if I stop today. I mean, I I'd be completely satisfied with my career. Like, I've I have. Yeah. I've I've I've many regrets along the way, you know, a game here a situation there. But for the most part, I can look back, and and have milligrams and not a lot of people can say that. And I'm you know, I'm obviously very proud of that. And I don't know just not like people can say that. And I know how how amazing it is. But with that 'cause I'm still able you know, you do find these these mini motivation. So for me right now, it's two things. It's one continue to help help our younger players, you know, and not just on my own team. You know, I'm part of the executive committee with the CBA or with our players union. Sorry. And so I know that I can be a part of helping you know, this league grow and helping these younger players specifically with the storm. It's it's about on-court. I want to help them as much. As I can. And and leave this franchise and even better hands. So continues to be one of the top franchises in the league. And then the second thing is. I mean, when you would win, you know, it's it's funny. People don't necessarily like this. It's like you win. And that moment's amazing. And it happens like when the horn goes off so from like the horn going off until the next morning that is like really the only time you're like truly join that championship. And there's no other moment like it. But we're talking like twelve to twenty four hours. And yeah, don't get me wrong you'd have parades. They're amazing. But there's nothing like those twelve hours, and those are addicting, and it's like, you just wanna feel that. And there's no other way to replace that feeling. So because I am still able knock on what it's like, I just wanna feel that as much as I can until I'm probably I till I hang them up, and I can feel it again. I love that. That's awesome. What about you, Meghan? You are significantly younger than sue. Never comes up, but what's left to accomplish for you? What are your goals? Well, now that I've been dating so all my compliments, look, a lot smaller and less impressive as my mom pointed out, she's like, wow, very much. Did you? There's a lot less accomplish similar to what is that. There's part of it. It's just winning is addicting, and it's fun. And I kind of always keeps you coming back. And I'm being able to be on the national team. We have a lot of the winning and a lot of that feeling. We're always kind of in the mix competing for championships. I mean in the short term World Cup is next summer. Definitely want to win that again. I've lost a World Cup and won the World Cup. And the the ladder is. Yeah. Certainly much better. And in less, maybe a little bit shorter than this thing. But it's just such a great feeling to actually accomplish what you said out to do. And then Tokyo after that, hopefully, keep playing after that. And then I think that sort of recess how I feel and where I am with my body and in my career and what I want, but I'm definitely wanting to play as long as possible. And I think it's it sometimes it's it's a. We've sort of look at it. And at least my role is like four year cycle. So it's like we have World Cup coming up, and then we have Olympics. And then it's kinda like, oh, what are you going to be this old? And then to get to the next one you almost look in these like four year blocks, which can be kind of hard. So I'm gonna try to just stick to the one year keep it going, and as long as I'm joined myself, and and having fun and able to play the the way that I want to then I'll continue to play. And then as you said like, I feel like you would just, you know, not be very smart and not have an eye on the next stage. Even just to help prepare yourself feel like emotionally and mentally. It's gonna be hard to step away. And then you wanna find something else? So just trying to get my toe in different things and not necessarily set up things with future. But at least kind of have an idea of of where you wanna go what you like what you don't like. And and start to build those relationships you have an apparel company, right? That you started. Yeah. And do either of you have aspirations like something, I know sue, you said you've always had outside interest in basketball is your identity, but there's also more obviously, I see both of you giving back to your sport and remaining connected to it. But are there things completely unrelated to sport that both of you are like one I'm finally done? Maybe I'll give that a shot. Yeah. I hope. So for me. I definitely want to stay involved in in some sense. But yeah, a coal a whole different world towns really sort of intriguing one that you can just kind of dive into and it doesn't really matter. What you did on the soccer field. Kind of explore different parts of yourself. And grow different pro. I mean being an asset. I think sometimes it's you towns yourself in so many ways in so difficult, but only in the sort of one silo, and I think kind of the other ones can get a little neglected or sort of lost in the mix sometime. So and it's hard to really big into anything else. When when you're still playing and all your focus has to go there. So I kind of have that that hope and that dream maybe something in in fashion or creating business or something like that. So everything Megan said, I it's like I agree with and I it's like you do want to develop these other parts of you. And then I have all these friends who are kind of in the corporate world, and I hear some of their stories, and I'm like, no, thanks. Florida's at wild sports is wild. But there and made it. Yeah. But I'm and I'm holy bias. And I've grown up in live this way for so long. But it's like, I don't know if I I can't even think example that would be funny right now. But if the if the buses at three like, we're there three, and then you hear your friends tell stories like, yeah, we had a beating at three. And this guy came at three thirty five like why? I can't even I'm like what moved you guys ball. Rules, but counterbalance. It's so different. Or my sister tells them stores she's like a week will recruiter in New York. She'll call me a story about maybe somebody stepping on somebody else's codes. And I'm like what like that to me. I'd be like what are you doing? You know, what I mean that kind of thing. So should probably kill me for bringing that up. But whatever. So that kind of thing where I'm like, we think maybe sports is what I'm supposed to be like this is. Yes, I don't know Meghan. I wonder you know, you were one of the most prominent white athletes to kneel on with Callan capper Nick back in September of two thousand sixteen and then the next game they played the anthem before the players cop came out, and the Washington spirit said you hijacked a tradition. Before which wasn't a grad. Great the word. And then a couple of days later, you you in the national game versus Thailand in US soccer made a statement demanding that players stand. There's a lot of activism on your part outside of your sport. Is there a part of you that at least when you're done participating in done being member of these teams feels like you will be even more outspoken because there isn't anything holding you back. I don't know how it'd be more outspoken. Than pretty outspoken. I guess so. But yeah, they're they're less like a direct and some way. Yeah. I think I'll always be. I think that's just the a part of who. I am. And just seeing, you know, since I've, you know in my career, and the things that I've spoken out against or four and being able to see the impact that that has has conversations at that has started just by saying it just like being willing to talk about it. I think is really powerful. So I can't imagine that Oliver sort of abandoned that. But yeah, always trying to find, you know, more ways to or I guess ways to do it more effectively and to just continue to have that conversation 'cause not a conversation that everyone wants to have, you know, you get a lot of people collecting one way or the other or just sort of not wanting to to have it at all which can be difficult. But yeah, I definitely see that being a part of my future, it's hard because a lot of women's athletes WNBA in particular have been on. In the forefront of activism and don't really get the credit for it the way that men men do. But at the same time, I think there's higher stakes for men, right? We saw with Colin Kaepernick or we've seen it with the NFL down Trump's not talking about you kneeling. So there's this balance of do you feel more like your health back in terms of you wish that you had the platform and the power to do what sale? Lebron James does when he speaks out or is there also a bit of protection and cover in that you're able to reach a lot of people. But maybe the stakes aren't as high. If if people don't agree with you. Yeah. I get what you're saying. I mean, I wish I had a bigger platform to talk about the things that I feel like our import into make a bigger impact. Sometimes that's you know, I've I've struggled with that a little bit of like your team all of these things. And then it's like, what do you do from there because you're not a fulltime activist? And you don't I don't have a whole like team around me or billions of dollars to, you know, do what LeBron is doing which is incredible this school, and just you know, the platform that he has with his production company and just him being willing to say that much. So sometimes it's hard. 'cause like, okay. Well, what's the next step? What sort of the the action step to to keep it moving? But I think all the voices are important. No matter what I think all of the, you know, maybe the smaller voices are powering LeBron to to do what he's doing and for vice versa. Sue, the WNBA actually kind of opted activism this year as part of the ticket sales. Go to various nonprofit. Fits and groups that that support causes that the WNBA stands behind. How did you react to that being? I mean, that's that's that's incredible support from your league in terms of anything that you want to speak out on feeling sort of supported. Yeah. Well, obviously, it didn't necessarily start that way, you know, a couple of years ago when a lot of the teams where when black lives matter t shirts, obviously, it's it's been well documented that there were some issues was gonna find us and all that stuff. But it's a it's I think when you start from there, and then you fast for two years. And now, look, you know, they started that initiative. They're the ones that are the table com. It's nice to feel supported in your workplace in this league. Because this week is very much a partnership. So it's great to feel so supported I think for us as players as women female athletes. We're you know, we're so used to fighting. It's like we have to fight every day in our own little world. So I think for us to kind of extend that and speak up on issues that that we feel you know, are just important and need to be brought to the forefront and fought four, you know, we're like, okay, cool. Like, let's do this. You know, because it's I think just the part of unfortunately, in a way a part of our nature. Because we do have that we're fighting all the time just for our own respect. So I think it's really natural for us to to to feel that way. And and speak up on things. We don't hold our time. And it's it's it's it was nice to have the league come around, you know, and and then see the value in that and to support it. Absolutely. It is it is helpful to have management on your side. Begley supportive of your at least not hourly unsupportive. You know, you mentioned you've been kind of fighting for your life. And and always advocating for yourself, the sort of LGBTQ Steph is newer for you. Sue, Meghan, Ben, you know, busting down doors without for several years now, but you were just named to the out one hundred for twenty eighteen the most prominent LGBTQ people, and what's that been like for you sort of adopting that new addition to all the all the work that you do of being a role model on speaker on that issue. Yeah. So it's it's been it's been amazing. I mean, it's been kind of cool. The interesting part is that on one side of it. I feel like I haven't really changed much. I just kind of set it right now. But what I'm doing and like, my everyday life and beyond or how I interact with people that that really hasn't changed. So I guess I'm trying to say it's like, it's nice to just kinda live your life. Be now be a little more open, a little more honest about it and see how that impacts. It's people for the second leg of it is is just seeing the impact on people and obviously through conversations with Mike in the bunch wants to go. But really Meghan. You know, I see the value and the importance of that, you know, to come out to have people come out in the sports world to normalize it to, you know, just make it something that is in full PA unknown. And then also like I said have the impact, you know. Whether it's I don't know a twelve year old coming up to you thanking you because and this is literally happen. You know, thanking you because now they can live their truth or I've even had older couples like in the fifties. And sixties be like, you know, we decide to get married because you know, you're living your life like we wanna live our lives. So it's it's just it's been pretty incredible to see to see what can happen when you just kinda tell people the truth. And that's really what it is. So I'm still I feel like I'm still living the same. But now, I'm definitely seeing that just doing that you can have a huge impact. Absolutely. I know you guys go. Go. But before you go you do have to do the one thing that everybody does. And nobody expects the Spanish inquisition. Expects the Spanish inquisition. That's right. It's the Spanish inquisition number one. Sue, what's the natural talent? You wish you were gifted with. Oh, I wish I could play the piano. Good one, Meghan. I wish I had a photographic memory. Oh, that'd be super helpful. Yeah. Yeah. With sports and otherwise. Although in arguments sue would get really annoyed if you. Yeah. Just be on my level. Remember last week? But this was like God. I don't remember. But now you're saying it, so it's like, I don't have to trust you. But then he my husband is really annoyed. I have a very good memory. And he'll be like why did you bring that up? I'm like because it's what I remembered. In my nuts. Number two, Meghan. What's your desert island album? You can only have one. Oh, dear really unfair question. Oh my gosh. Desert island. Maybe like a Fleetwood MAC album. Nice like good listening. Yeah. Sue, I mean, notorious Barrett. G ready to die hit go. Without a doubt, and you're on a desert island. So any moment. Yes. Could really. Yeah. Number three SU if you could switch lives with anyone for a day. Who would it be home? My god. Oh my God. That is really difficult right now. Maybe like Michelle Obama. Oh, good one. Is that too easy? But I think that'd be cool. No. That'd be amazing especially right now because he's doing a book tour and hanging out with cool. Yeah. No, I know. I just saw in Chicago with Oprah. It was amazing Meghan. Oh, wasn't rarity butter up. Maybe Ruth baiter. I mean, it's going to be tough. She's she's pretty old. Yeah. It would be a different body experience for you for. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. But like I just want to sit with as her in those chambers. And just look at all the people be like what is happening. I had a really hold on. I think we'd all be down for you to change bodies with her. Megan. What's the most scared you've ever been? Scared. Has a couple actually a couple of recently. Some like a flying in bad weather. In bad weather situations. We had a last I guess it was last February. We had a tournament. We're playing in Columbus. And then we were coming to New Jersey for a game. Anyways, woke up like all the flights were canceled because they're like no worries. We we have a charter. So we're gonna take charter. And I was like, well, what is different about the charter that is like different than the commercial flights that aren't allowed to play like, oh, we're leaving earlier there. So we're going to beat the what we left later. I only flew right into the heart of that thing. And I I mean, my whole body was sweating got up outta my like, oh my gosh. And it's given me a little bit of anxiety since then not a ton. But then I'm also like, well, if we go down I'm gonna die when I fly a lot. So that. So there's that it's like these fleeting moments. But that's probably the most. Well, I didn't think I didn't feel like we were going to crash, but it was just like, wow. This is all over the place. See what about you? Aside from the near accident. Megan I almost got the other day. It wasn't as dramatic as that sounds that. Actually scared me those like today's ago, but I joked that the Denver Nuggets with my first job, but I actually sold like ice cream out of the carts at concert one summer, and I got it wasn't gun point. It wasn't knife. Winter. I'd like that. But I got like robbed essentially. And I yeah. When I tell the story now, making sure the story numerous I kind of make it seem like no, I mean, they grab the money. But like I could've caught him. But I couldn't 'cause I couldn't eat the car. But I was like really scared like the whole experience was just like frightening in the way that they did it. It was like a couple of it was like these three guys and one of them was talking to me, and they're doing this to not only like snatch all the money anyways. It was just like an alarming extent. We're so armee and my for sure. Yeah. Sunai alerting there we go. Absolutely would feel like that for sure anytime. Someone does something that's like evil to you. Yeah. Right. Yes. Yeah. It's very unsettling. Number five. Sue, what's the most embarrassed you've ever been? Oh god. I feel like I have a lot. I've probably just block them out. So embarrassing. Oh, I can't think I get. I think this is kind of silly. But when I was younger, I don't know why it was just popped in my head. I think it was like twelve or so we're on a soccer tournament with my travel team. And I made some joke about a woman's weight, which is like so not cool. But I was twelve and I was in a pool of my teammates. I was like, oh, we go because this woman sat on our stuff, and I just made this bad poor taste joke. And they'll the curl is like, that's my mom, and it was and that was just like terrible. I don't even know what maybe think of it was awful. And so like to this day. I yeah, I don't make. I don't make those jokes. Let's put it that way. Langley. All kids are jerk sits at some point nearest most of Barras. It takes a lot for me. Safety, Dan, Harris. Yeah, you know, when we run for the White House after the World Cup. I mean, I was so excited to me about I was like this is like a dream come true. This is once in lifetime. This is going to be making. I don't know what was going on. I don't have allergies or anything. But like my face was so red for the whole time that we were at the White House. I was like is there something Indies walls that like bright red, and I was hot and the whole to. Everyone's like argue, okay? Like well to me on this. No, I'm not, but don't make a big deal out of it. I'm gonna get more random and who's going to be seen when Obama comes. Then it kinda was like those women who go on say yes to the dress. And then they get high. They're never on Cam. Yeah. Maybe shoe awesome. Like your body. Too much for me. Number six, Meghan. What what do you consider your biggest failure? Oh, my biggest failure, man. And it's hard. I mean, I guess as a team failure losing the World Cup and two thousand eleven that's probably the that's probably the the biggest one. Oh, I haven't the other major life failures sue. So you know, I was talking about how I do like to keep a balance with like basketball and friends, and and I do feel like majority of the time I've done a really good job. I feel like I have failed in keeping touch with some people. But that's only one that's mine too. Really? Because I thought of a better one. Definitely, oh, I went to the SP's. My my my rookie or the WNBA. And I was in some shoes that were not easy to walk in. I walk down steps on the stage. And I I kind of realized like in the moment like this probably. But it wasn't. Thank god. There wasn't Twitter. I got back to my team. There were like, dude. Like did you can walk studios. Now. I just looked like an idiot everybody it was just like wobbly. It was kinda like that model on that one. Yeah. I didn't fall fall. But it was very wildly. That was like intensely embarrassing. But but yeah failure is just again. I feel like I've done. Okay. But I probably could have done better with some people in some aspects. My friend has a spreadsheet that he keeps and hell jot down in the spreadsheet when he calls somebody or sees them. And then every once in a while if you knows he has a road trip or some free time he'll go there, and he'll find someone where it's been a long stretch and held us. Call him. I think like it's very it's very like business way to do it. But at the same time, it prevents you from dislike it makes you realize how long it's been. Maybe since you really is. It was Tony. It's kind of a good idea on number seven. Sue what habit or quality? Do you think it's contributed most to your success? I think I can get very like. OCD about stuff and like I can obsess. But when it comes to basketball like it allows me to folk I can be like very focused, and I already want to change my answer. I think the real answer is that I always think I'm right? And it's who my detriment with like my social life. 'cause like, oh, you only think you're right. But on the basketball court, I just have whether I'm right or wrong in sports, whether you're right or wrong, sometimes as long as you're just doing it like confidence in your certif-. It actually doesn't matter. And so I think the fact that I always think I'm right? And I kind of just play that way. Like, no, we're doing this. I think has been a huge apartment decisive. Yeah. Meghan. I think so belief I think that's probably like the thing that I look back and that has kind of like driven me the most context of the national team is such a weird environment. Because it's like there's only twenty people and you're constantly pitted. Against each other. And everyone else, and it's like this, hyper competitive environment. It's it's easy. A lot of times to whether you're not starting or not playing well, or you know, sort of out of favorites easy to start looking at everyone else. And they like, wow, I better than her at this. I thought you know, and it's like, it doesn't that doesn't really matter. You have to be the best set yourself and whatever game you're going to bring so kind of having that like undying, I guess being aware of what you're good at as well being sort of aware of the areas that you game that you excel. And that you could be better than anyone else, and then kind of sticking to that and sort of making that fit within the team framework. I'll say Megan has like crazy confidence in. A good way as it the sound. Like, you do is. I'm actually envious. There's parts of you around like dang. She just has like a way about her. She's like, no I'm going to go like he wants us coming back from injury. It was like it was like, I don't know. I just need to play. I'll be fine. Whereas like anyone else would have been like oh God. I don't know. Like, maybe I'm just not big on that that like, maybe I can't be who. I was. She's like, no, no I've seen play. I'll be like. And it was just I don't know. It was impressive. Yeah. Super impressive. And that's like the best quality ever. I was younger people. You gotta fake it until you make it. Yeah. You just have to pretend like otaly when hope that you will yourself into it. Number eight Megan have you ever been in a fistfight? I've never been in a fist fight. But there is this infamous story of in college. Where like I think it was my sister were on the bus going. We were a pinch state. Like, maybe we just pull up some are getting off the bus, and I had like this headband on. And I asked I did used to get embarrassed a lot when I was little because I didn't really know how to like process or handle my oceans, and I'm very emotional. So it would just like overwhelming right away. So it's like trickled in college a little bit probably still trickling around. But she likes snapped my headband like in front of everyone, and I was sitting down. She was like in the aisle, and I just said mmediately like uppercut at her in the stomach. Yeah. It was one of just looked at like we're in public. So I'm not going to beat. You're right now. But she didn't talk to me for like dollars. Like, oh my gosh. Soon as I did. I was like only my live so sorry. Yeah. Kind of my only fistfight. No, I've never been in one. Wow. I've been in verbal altercations. But never a physical skin has found you violence. Number nine. Sue, what's the thing about yourself you'd most like to improve? Probably that. I think I'm always right? I find myself having to no, I'm kidding. I find myself having to I love it in basketball, but in life, it's not always the most pleasant to be around. And I can so I like arguing for like the sport of it and not everybody. Does that for the get like get, you know? Yeah. It's great for me. Not that great for my social life. So. Yeah. So anyway, so yeah, I wish at times as it as it when I pertain to like people that are like my friends, and I love and enjoy being around. I wish I wasn't. I don't I wish I didn't jump to like, I'm always, right? Let's argue, but I'm doing it for sport. It's fun for me. And I get that. It's not always fun for everybody else. Right. Totally meghan. I wish that I was more like organize and. I wish I was like more OCD or more and more organized in that sense. I can kinda like all over the place. Sometimes I'm like forgetting things all the time. And it's like I'll put it in my calendar. And then forget it 'cause I just forget to look at my calendar. Like don't put it in there. If you're not gonna look at it. Trying to be better using the alarm function of your phone for that. Yeah. I have to do that a lot actually because I know that will have stuff, and then I'll just forget it during the day. It'll be like I have to you know, if I haven't interviewed to setting that alarm at one fifty five that's what I've been going off. And I'm like hell thought today's podcast is thirty minutes later than it was. It's. Thank offer. Do it my life. She's really taken on a lot. What's good for keeps? You keeps you in line. Meghan. Can't remember anyway. So like, yeah. Like my own. Yeah. That's great. Finally, number ten Meghan. What three words would you? Most hope people would use to describe you. Oh. There. She's dynamic oh, use the sentence. Let's two words and up. Oh, she is. Okay. All right. But you don't get. It was sentenced. They could be three separate words. Okay. Dynamic other words. Caring. Okay. And. Fun. I'm fine. I'm gonna go with I was gonna say fun. Also, so fun, but engaging and reliable. Oh, good ones. I love the idea of one of you being dynamic and the other being reliable. Good. Yeah. Pretty much. I feel like yeah. It helps. My therapy. Totally. That's why this because then people are like, oh, man. Clem? Yeah. I Barbara Walters. People into giving up the goods at the end. And then do you guys have a recommendation of someone I should have on the podcast? Diana for sure. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. Oh, yeah. She's wild get her in there. You never know. What? All right. Well, I look forward to you sending me up with her to get that done. Okay. Honestly. She's one of my close runs. I'm I'm already going to good could look. I know why I said great. I can't wait for you to make that happen. Yeah. Thank you, guys so much, this was so awesome. And I think the biggest crush on you guys. You guys are the best. Staying so amazed by your that three. So keep it up. Thank you feeling mutual. Thanks, guys. You know? Oh and another thing on this week's knots. What she read I'm a little late because I'm right after thanksgiving. But I read this story, and to me, this is what we should all be thinking about all the time, and it's hard to count your blessings. It's hard to be thankful during the middle of of the rat race and to look around and and not find something to complain about. But I read this story and it just reminded me during the holiday season weather. It's thanksgiving Hanukkah Christmas. Whatever to be thinking about all the things you do have. There's a mom of a newborn and during the wildfires in California. She asked a stranger to take her newborn and leave her behind. She ultimately did not have to make that sacrifice. But in the moment that was the decision. She was going to make to try to save her newborn baby. If she wasn't able to make mother of three was resting in a hospital in paradise in California after having her baby via C-section and about seven thirty AM nurse rushes in and says that she and the newborn had to leave that the the fire was coming. She was unable to run or walk because of her surgery was put into a wheelchair with the baby on her lap. And she was placed in a sedan of a hospital employee guy that she'd never met before. And they're trying to drive away propane tanks exploding around them people abandoning their cars for fear being burned alive. The fire actually melted. The plastic tail lights on the car she was in and she wasn't able to wear a seatbelt, dude or surgery. She still had an IV line in and was making a pact with this stranger. It's it comes down to it. I'm going to stay here. If you have to just I want you to take the baby and make a run for it. And I'll try my best to get out. But I want you to take him. It's just an incredible story. And it's such an unbelievably sad thing to even imagine. A fortunately the woman the baby and the gentleman that was helping her all escaped as did Sanders. The woman's husband and other two children, but reading it is is chilling. And the message is clear so. It's it's on Huffington Post dot com. The headlines mom escaping wildfire asked a stranger to take her newborn and leave her behind. I recommend the read especially anytime, you're feeling like complaining about I don't know a rainy day or a co worker you don't like thanks as always for lasting about an hour with me. That's what she said. I think smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended jewel. So I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. There's no ash all over your car. I would say give it a try get the flavor and satisfaction of smoking without the mess of cigarette. Asher lingering odor. 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Hour 2 - Megan Rapinoe and Julian Edelman (06-25-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

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Hour 2 - Megan Rapinoe and Julian Edelman (06-25-19)

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She will join us from the team boss in on its way to Paris, France. They got the big game coming up match coming up on Friday against the host country. She will join us, Julian Edelman of the patriots will join us. He's got a documentary on Showtime and Adam Sandler a little more than an hour from now. The San man will be in studio, and you can watch three on three game with Sandler and his ringers that'll be coming up at twelve thirty eastern on the DP show up. It's Sandler's team versus police. Seton? Mclovin and fritzy at twelve thirty eastern. We have our championship match that will be on Thursday. It'll be the back row. It'll be mclovin against the grain is against fritzy's crush. And a shocking upset yesterday almost two upset yesterday as the lugers gave mclovin, team against the grain is a little bit of a run there. Can you imagine if it was losers versus fritzy's team in the final after that season? And well you know what? It was one in done round, Robin here, and there will be a losers game coming up on Thursday as well. Because we're looking at the draft order already that the back row with fritzy, mclovin. The front row will be playing for the worst team in the league label. Yes. It's right now being called this game's being called tanking for twos. Which is, you know, the whoever loses the last place game is obviously in last place. They get the first pick of the next draft what he would be two days again. Okay. What do you think of this for next year? You can't draft anybody next year that you had on your team this year. Promise. Passe officer. They feel they hate me, absolutely guaranteed. Marvin hates me. Okay. Yes, we love we already mock drafts out, because you brought it up in the last location. Yeah. There's a team out there that you might not want us to Todd for it is possible team could be Todd. The big German and Mario, who air balled, the shot that cost the team the win. That's not bad. It's not a bad team. That's a good team Il who's going to score on that team. Well, fritzy? Oh, shoot. It's a good. If you're going to the buffet know. That, that's a defensive stopper ever heard Ritchie's alloctaed. He's our Bruce Bowen in here. And you see the defense, he put on mareo at the end of that game. 'cause the shot to go didn't guard. Mario all Morio has to do is is if he, he can run out the clock. If I smother remedy, this whole, go ahead wide open. You know, it was brilliant, brilliant strategy on your part. Fritzy. Let Mario the only way that the big baller brand can lose. His if Mario takes a shot, and he airballs it. Today's gets it the rebound. The put back. We went into overtime seat and misses the three twos or banks in the three and that's your game. That's it. Three things had to happen. How to be you had to shoot. It had to be an airball, and we have somebody right under the basket immediately to put it up. All three of those things that happen in the last three seconds I to tie that game. Yes, I feel like we're underplaying the second game though. And the, the drama that was their Paul's team had. Andrew's team. Shut out in the first half zero points zero points Andrews, the leading score the league by twice as many points per game. As everybody else they went on a fourteen to run in the second half to beat us that could have been a big shocker there, because everybody was doing everything right against mclovin. But mclovin took upon his shoulders as MVP's do. And you were great in the second half. Well, our star player, you know, I'm not saying there's rumors that certain PD's have an effect on your body and stiffened up for the game or second star. All the TS chef has been having some sort of problems that are suspicious. I'm gonna say like the Mark Maguire of this leak. Wow. Yes. That was Pearl who show up in the second half yesterday. There is no joking around there is pointing to calling for picks taken into the whole elbows out. I mean he played clean, but like it was he was it got it got frothy there yesterday. Well, that there is a we saw some. Tempermental outbursts yesterday, there was one early where they were seems delaying just a hair at the inbound physical Chuck it in took it in and he passed it to guys hard. And then I was doing the same thing I was casually. Checking the ball in and the big German kid, Yeldham face. She was once took it in, and I spun the ball and I wish I wish for two and you guys didn't hear this. Now. You gotta wait five more seconds. And I thought he's going to punch me in a are you? Okay, if there's a fight in this league Dan is that is fighting allow as long as it's on camera. It's all about content. Poll questions. Sponsored by man versus food on cooking channel, by the way, the Bleacher report app. Connects you to the moments that matter faster. 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And we say good morning to Megan repeat, no team, USA forward, co captain and yesterday player the match two goals versus Spain in the win next game versus France, this Friday at three pm eastern and Megan joins us now. Where are you today? Megan. On the bus heading from wrong to parents is about a two hour bus ride. You to have fun today. Is this a day off? Yeah, this is a little recovery this morning. A little pool. I saw that. And then take an easy for the rest of the day know being one of the veteran players. How does it work for seniority? Do you get to sit where you want on the bus? Yeah. Everyone coming in the same spot, but there has been depends, where that'd be like new people coming into the squad and accidentally sits someone else, see. And then you gotta tell them women in their mortified, but I should towards the front. I don't wanna be getting carsick or be staying trapped in the back. So I said towards the front of the bus out of the refresh younger players make fun of you. Give you grief at all. They have a nickname for you. Not really. I mean, I think it still them as long as I'm keeping up with them, then they don't really have much to say. What, what, what are the older players do? We wanna do that. take us to the, the penalty kick, like you know, put us in that moment of, are you looking at the goaltender at all, like what's the process? Not really. I don't look at to go too much. I mean I kind of know where they're just going to be in the middle of the goal. I try to just focus on the process that I go through the routine that I have trying to stay calm, obviously, it's you're not super calm. You know, he's Everson that moment, especially a moment, like yesterday where, you know, let's get potentially be the winning goal put us through the next round. But just trying to pick my spot. You know, put it outside the keepers rains. I feel like you know, it is so close to where if you put it in the right spot of the goalkeepers never gonna be able to get to it. You go scouting reports when all of these goaltenders. Yeah. We do a little bit. But we've, we've sort of more so focused on just trying to put it low and in the corners or high in the corners. I mean, unless you have like try Norma's goalkeeper in there. The a normal size one is never going to be able to reach those corner. So just trying to hit it with pace and pick your spot. Hit it with confidence whose putting more pressure on you guys. You guys or the media us. I will say, I think the media puts a lot of pressure on us. But probably nothing compared to what we want where we're very sort of critical and analytical about our performances always wanted to do really. Well, I mean, obviously, we know have, you know, the expectation honest, but I think that comes from within, as well, we're never really satisfied, you know, really only four once every four years, do we ever get a chance to be actually really satisfied. And that's if we if we win trophies or not. And if we went metals or not, so I think there's no greater expectation than what we all feel for each other, which the biggest difference you think in being cocky, or confidence or confident when you step on the pitch. Probably the the level of respect for the opponents. I think teams are coffee or players who are concrete, don't even really pay attention to the opponent, and, and don't really respect what they do and think that you can just go and, and run all over them. I think we turn to have the highest level of the sector they've come. It's obviously Al teens, especially as we peep advancing are so good. They're here for a reason. They put in just as just as much work we do. And just as many hours as we do and focus that we do so trying to break them down realize, you know the strength of their game and, and trying to combat against that. And then on the trying to find a little weak points where we can exploit. The quote that you is attributed to you. I hope it's just a total bleep show. Circus. It's going to be totally awesome. I think this is what everybody wants. This is the upcoming match with France on Friday. So explain the total bleep show circus. There meghan. I just hope it's wild. I thinks that this is, you know, kind of one of those, those moments in sports where everything comes together, you have considered one of the heavy favorites against what I consider a very heavy favourite and the host nation Francis. A fantastic side. They've had a good run through the tournament. It's like this is the game that everyone had circled you know all the media wants it. I think fourteen up for all the fans want it. It'll be in Paris. It's kind of this sort of pitcher ask, you know, quarter-final that they don't get very often when you have two of the, the heaviest hitting teams of the tournament. So hopefully it's wild and the fans are crazy. And everyone's hype for can you talk in front. Yeah a little bit. I can try I only know if you were give me a little bit. Gimmie a little big that I might here on for. Cuss words a little bit. But I think I'll just try to give little look and try to get them out of their game a little bit. I always like to crack a joke and there's quite a few players. I played with as well in France. So trying to just get them off their game a little bit. When I knew you were going to be on. I still go back to this equality thing. I, I don't know why this is an issue. Why, why is this an issue Megan with the, the, the women in the men? I I don't understand it. Didn't you prove that you are equal or better? Yeah. Yeah. I don't understand it either. That'd be a question. You could ask our veteran. But what we we'll be asking it again. Obviously very shortly after the World Cup in no matter what happens. But yeah, man, I think progress takes time obviously. And sometimes people are just very set in their ways, and don't wanna see anything a different way. But I think we're showing that every day we've, we've proven every day on the field and every time we step out there not only from just a performance perspective. But also, you know, just just the way that we rally the country and getting behind us, and the readings that we have, and the popularity of is growing. It seems like you know every day. So, I think we got a pretty good case ourselves. Made it this four and we haven't even brought up celebration controversy. You proud of me. I'm very proud of house. Listen they're not doing. I've known her for probably three quarters of her life. I'm friends with her parents. So how how she holding up here? She's good. She didn't really get. We actually talked about it this morning. I feel that I was going on your show, and she was like, oh, he's a great guy forever. He's the babysitter something for you. Yeah. She's doing very solid back there for us. I think she's enjoying her first World Cup experience as starter. Good yell at her teller, Mr. Patrick gut says, low in wishes through the best of luck. I will definitely Meghan good. Luck on Friday and great to talk to you again. Great. Thank you have. Man. That's Meghan repeat. Yeah, my family is friends with the goaltender the goalie. I've I'm friends with her parents. A listen air and have known her for a long time. And I forgot when Megan brought up the fact that she babysat some of my daughters, and that's how long we've known her. Yes, listen. Big neighborhood bragging rights. How's your daughter doing? She's got, you know, going to Georgetown, how's your daughter? Oh she just won the World Cup goaltender. Yeah. I'm sorry. She's, she's on TV right now. I can't talk. He didn't France. Yeah. Three hundred million people watching. Yeah. I've known Meghan as well for a long time. And, you know, when you talk about athletes and being tough, she tough. He's tough athlete. Great athlete, tough athlete, not afraid, and, you know, the those are the kind of athletes, you need on a big stage like this, that the, the big weight is Sandler here. Yeah. The whole crew just silent Sandler's in our early, there's free basket. And barbecue. Well, I did he didn't even know about the barbecue, but I, I can see sandwich in the man cave. If we if you're watching put a put a camera on there. It is if you're watching Sandler brought in his own team robbed is rob Schneider out. There is like assistant. I don't think rob Schneider's plan. I will say, though, that the danettes ask for this. They wanted a good tea sandwich can play San. Let's get a little handle there, too. I saw. No. He's dribbling way. You're talking about the love hand on. Wow. No. That's a shot for Sam when he. When he was at his peak. He could really play. Yeah. San man's out there shooting out is that his outfit that he would have worn any way or is he dressed for basketball? I think if a game breaks out he's ready to play. But Sandman is his here. He's here. I got a surprise for him to. I got a little surprise in the hallway for him. But Sandler's getting does he know that he's really early Todd? He does. Okay. He did did. They wanted to make sure they got here with extra time with the weather and everything. I told him it wouldn't take three hours to get here. He's very punctual and he had to be an hour early. Then be two minutes late. Or I don't like that. Yes bone. So San is dribbling through his legs, and everything he's got handle. He looks like he could ball. But then another dude comes in team. That's the guy you wanted to play and nets anytime. The guy comes in wearing headphones around his neck. That's a good. He's probably the best player on the team. Yes. He he might as well be wearing twenty three that is always the best player on the team here, it is. She was in. A box. I told you this is the guy who I believe played on the and one tour. His dad is the legendary basketball writer Peter Vesey, and the member. When I said, because I said to Sandler, no ringers, all right. Don't do that because it's the dannettes, and I told you guys I said had told Sandler no ringers you know, he's got this guy who's unbelievable and they're like, no, no bring them on. I go, no. Okay. So you guys got him. And then salmon's longtime friend lock is going to be out there as well. But that's at twelve thirty eastern. That that's two hours from now for Sandler maim. You is can tire him out. San man will join us coming up a little bit later on. We'll take a break because up next, we'll talk to Julian Edelman and the patriots got a documentary on Showtime last what that's all about. 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But yeah, yeah I'm ready to ball for sure. It starts is an exhibition. It does. The fact this'll be televised on the DP show app. He just hit a, a three couple of them from an awkward angle. And all I heard after the, the second or third one went in was the same. He provides his own commentary. Man is intimidating. Yeah. So that'll be coming up after the show, Sandler will join us. I don't know we have Julian Edelman coming up, and then we'll Sandman man will work in. Yes polling. We've got a quick, Julian Edelman bet you want a piece of it. Okay. If you ask Julian Adam, and the following question, what will his answer be? He could be six three or run a four three two things. He's not that close to either ran a four or five two at the combine not a slow man. Okay. But he's, he's about five nine ish. Okay. What do you think he's going to say he would rather run a four three then be six three? I'm guessing you guys wanted who wants a piece of that. I'll be train and take the other side six three you think that Julian Edwin given a chance he could be. He could run a four three or be six three. Seton patriots apologised for three four three a four three, paulie, I gonna say six three because he he's done it without great speed. And he he's more route runner, quickness guy. I'm gonna six three. Okay. Let's bring in Julian adamant of the patriots showtimes, new documentary film one hundred percent Julian Edelman premiers this Friday at nine eastern and Pacific. Also, streaming on demand. Narrated by Michael Rapaport. And you got more Walberg snoop Dogg. Tom Brady Michael Strahan. Dion Sanders as we look inside joy atamans underdog journey from major injury. NFL suspension to Super Bowl. MVP jillian. Good morning. Let me start with that question. If you had the opportunity to be six three or run a four three forty which one would you take? Or three. Yep. That's what I thought. What is your best time ever? For four six. What do you run? Now. I don't know. I ran a forty ten in eleven years. I think it's overrated, I think the forties over a I would rather know how fast you can get to top end speed. I'd rather know how quick you are off the ball in the first five to seven to ten yards. What do you think of that as opposed to the forty yard dash? I think you put on film, and you watch football speed. I think that's more important than timing or this, or that, because when, when you have someone chasing, you, it's a little different. So. I would evaluate that more than trying to get a quantitative number on forty speed base that and the other well, Jerry Rice head football speed. He's the classic example, it was like he ran a four six forty, but it didn't feel like anybody ever caught him from behind. Without a doubt. I mean, you know, your hand you can even put drunken that category. I mean you're seeing someone catch crawling from blind your arms. Some. I mean, there's, there's difference between football speed and guys that can test playing fast and going out and being fast is, is, is different. You miss gronk. More on the field or off the field. I mean, it it's hard to say that you're not gonna miss him on the field because of how dynamic of a player he was and how big he showed up in in crucial situations. But I probably say in the locker room more just because I you know, he was always always had a good. I always use always on, you know I it could be you know, week eleven. Coming off of the long road trip into a short week and those practices are grueling tough. You got an ankle injury. You don't feel great mentally this that and the other and you, you look in and you see gronk in his locker probably half naked, he's gonna smile and say would feel guys. That every day. That's kinda team. Eighty was he just he just he just a big, big jolly guy Brady ever yell at him and tell him to get serious. Now. I'm not really. I mean you didn't have to. I mean he's he's, he's a self motivated guy, and he's, he's a very disciplined guy when it comes to his work, but you just have fun doing it. Tell me how this documentary came about. Came out with came about by. We originally gonna start shooting something in two thousand seventeen during that playoff run. We played Atlanta and, you know, I got kinda scared picking out didn't want wanna mess with my routine. You know, my, my, my business partner that I started production company coast, with Asaf came up to me, he goes, well, we messed up on that, that could have been and trying to on a yelled at me, and then house like whatever next time we'll do it just so happened that you know, I tore my CEO and they're pretty pretty season week. And he came up to me again, and he gave me that, that look like a this would be something we could do. I take me a little time. Let it pass. And kinda. Thought about it, isn't it? And it gave me an opportunity, use my creative side, and then kinda work out something occupied my time in my mind. So it wouldn't be going crazy. And, and that's kind of what we did. How much nudity is in the documentary, Julian naturally went to want to know. Nudity there. I don't think there's that much nudity. The sex sex sales. I know like what are you doing? If you went to ladies to watch you gotta come on. You gotta there there's, there's a couple. Some tidy whitey's in there. What was the hardest thing to reveal during this documentary? I would say probably just. Kinda like the family matters you know, going into after watching and rewatching it kinda opened up a lot. You're telling a lot about yourself in that stuff was. It was kinda hard to see but hard to watch for me not hard. But like it was just it was uncomfortable at times, just because it got it got kinda in-depth with, you know, a lot of on issues that I was going through. And you know that that was that was probably the toughest part. But when you when you get suspended, are you are you angry? Are you embarrassed or like how do you deal with that with the with the documentary? You're, you're all of them. You're everything, you know, you thinking of. All of that. And then you're also, you have regular life you family. You know, you and then you have. A profession that you're trying to you know overcome a major injury. You're dealing with all of that. And you know it was definitely weird tough. But, you know, I had some of my, my closer friends that you know, okay, more guys that new win win. You know, I was able to film without being too uncomfortable. Also parenting, we've talked about, when you had your daughter. How important was it to kinda show that side of you? I mean that was awesome. Looking back on it. I mean something like it always. In a cool. They have like a family family. An and see some of the interactions of my daughter with Lee, my family my father, my mother, and my brother, and my sister and other relatives. I mean I it's just something that, that was probably my favorite part of it is kinda relieving that 'cause, you know, as an athlete, you, you don't always get time to appreciate you know, everything that you have in your life. You're so caught up with the next year and what you gotta do this year to get better and training and the inventing yourself and adding things to your game. And sometimes to be able to sit back and watch that. And, and see, you know, the actual story I it was kind of refreshing, you know what I mean? What I mean he's Julian Ataman the new documentary is one hundred percent Julian Ataman, it premieres this Friday on Showtime at nine eastern and Pacific. You watch the Super Bowls. Have you gone back to watch them? Not not so much. I mean I, I want I watch like the cut ups day after day after we usually play or sometime tonight up just kinda see certain plays. But other than that, you get caught up. So many other things you don't really have time to. And, and you believe on honestly, so what's the better Katcha against Seattle or against Atlanta, like more important to you? If you were gonna show, one play that you made in your career, which one would you show? I would probably say that third fourteen catch up not even the Kachin either those to catch. We're only talking about what you had to talking about the Ricky shea and one. No, you had the one where you got blasted by Kam chancellor, and somehow you held onto the ball and actually advance the ball. That's my favorite catch you ever made because I heard that hit I was down on the sidelines. And I went oh my God. That's a car accident. Yeah. I think it'd probably that was the one I was talking about that. Yeah. I mean that was that was pretty cool. Catch the other one little. You know it was a little luck here there. And we obviously, you gotta watch the ball and put yourself to potentially make plays. But I mean a lot of. That one kinda was like a fluky clay. The other one was kind of, you know, wrap up and grace up for this, this collision spot to happen. And you know. In time in a game. So that was that was pretty cool. Catch. I guess if you ever got married, would you invite? Bill bell check to the wedding. Dependent if he if he knew the lady, that I was gonna marry her or his girl willing to if they had a connection. I don't. No one or married couples. Belly Bill to check strikes me is a good dancer. You might be a good guy to have their at the reception. Yeah. I don't know if we really want on the skills, but it would be awesome to have sexual. It'd be great. You get him and Brady 'cause Brady can't dance. It'd be great. You get those guys out there on the dance floor. You know that. Would that'd be that'd be a lifelong memory. Yeah. But then you have gronk out there. He'll take your shirt off. Who knows what happens? I mean. Well, that could be a mess. I think that could be fun. That'd be that'd be the second part of the documentary that after you're done with football, by the way, who plays longer. You were Brady. I hope I do. I hope I do know guarantees though with Brady. There's no guarantees, and, you know, I'm, I'm honestly, just focused on on this year and excited for this year and excited for the process of going out and you know develop in our team and into learning our team and proven with our team. And working, you know, I it's this is the start of each year. These these kind of phases. They're all important. And no, I'm looking forward to enjoying that process, by the way, do you guys want to take guests how many tackles Jillian Ataman has in his career one hundred fifteen game career I'm asking guys on the other side of the glass here? Julia. Anybody wanna take? You don't even know how many tackles you have do. I don't. Okay. All right. Paulie, I'll go five five fritzy, I'm gonna say seven all right. Seton, twelve mclovin nine. I got you with twenty five tackles in your one hundred fifteen game career. Is that a defense special teams and potentially interception? Think so Tom never throws interceptions though, Jillian. So I don't I don't know what you're talking about their Tom never throws interceptions. That's exactly right. Exactly. Hey, good luck with the documentary hope to see you soon. Get you in studio again. And good luck. More importantly, with your daughter in the upcoming season. I appreciate the and I, I'm still always. Amazed on how great your voice sounds on radio. Thank you. It's, it's why both my voice sounds like Brady looks. Got me there. Good luck with the documentary. Thank you. Julia. Thanks guys. Jillian Ataman patriots wide receiver three times Super Bowl champ. And it's one hundred percent Julian Edelman, premiers Friday, nine eastern and Pacific. And I guess they touch on this spending and PD's and how that affects his career moves forward. And I don't know if it's going to I don't I don't think he's a hall of Famer not right now, but he's a patriot hall of Famer how many guys do they have who've had at least five hundred catches with the patriots. It. So you have Wes Welker grunk. I'm trying to think who else is on that list that had five hundred because element has got four ninety nine I'm gonna guess he's getting to five hundred. Yes, point. He's got seasons with one hundred five catches ninety two catches. Ninety catches, no pro bowls. I got a couple more here. He also has. Hundred and fifteen playoff receptions. That's nuts. Yeah. You got Troy Brown and Stanley Morgan to up in that number. Where does that rank though with other teams you're going to have what five guys with at least five hundred catches for their team? Yeah. I don't know who else would be on that list, because swan and stalwart didn't have five hundred catches in their careers with Pittsburgh Antonio Brown, obviously. But I I'm trying to think of other teams that would have that, you know, the raiders with cliff branch and Fred bulletin economy. I don't know if Dave casper had five hundred and this is off the top of my head of trying to think of franchises that had, you know, John Taylor didn't have five hundred catches. I don't think with the Niners Jerry, obviously did. But what other teams can you think of that are have five five players that have at least five hundred catches, mclovin? Got any I, I would have said that those Niners teams with Craig and rice, and there must be some other Niners ever. And John Hagel throat, anybody he had Lance Allworth guaranteed, and you're really amass as many reception Shirley, joiner John Jefferson didn't play long enough to get five hundred Winslow would have five hundred. I'm guessing I'm curious just after I think first instinct is right. I think it has to be the patriots with five guys with at least five hundred catches. Yeah. Polling quick answer off the top of your head whose career would you want Julian Edelman probably not going to the hall of fame, but he's super MVP. He's got a bunch of rings. Larry fitzgerald. First ballot. Hall of Famer could be could have most receptions, a history at worst second-place fan. Jerry Rice at worst. There's no wrong answer. But there's I'm good at takeout Allman, I'm going to take them. I got rings. I got I got big games big catches. Yes. He yeah. I mean there's a lot of fun in winning. You know, there's no fun. There's no learn Gerald. There's no fun in being awesome in not winning. Then the Bardi say that or does he something like that? Yeah. Something. Like, when gets fun winning. It's fun. 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I think you're I think you nailed it, but I'm going to have stats Inc. Run through all the other teams have it. No, I don't I have Eshelman at four ninety nine with one hundred fifteen games Wes Welker needed seventy games to get to five hundred catches. In that amazing has has anybody ever, that's got to be the quickest to five hundred catches with Welker but he started out with the dolphins. Gronk it took one hundred and eight games Eshelman one hundred fifteen games, but you're gonna have you're gonna have five guys with at least five hundred catches with that team. Yes. It skews modern tubes. Even like yeah. Roger Craig only at five hundred sixty six I would have thought he had millions. You know, but they just in throws with where you didn't play that, you know how long was he with the Niners? Right. Well, I feel like Roger Craig was like seven years with that, it, I don't know. I, I'm just curious of how long he was there man versus food. Don't miss the episode this week on cooking channel tonight. Casey web lands in Worcester. It's not worse Chester. It's worcester. Worcester mass, I've a friend, who's from there, Charlie, you guys know, Charlie, he sounds like judge winter man of the year Charlie has been out at Worcester mass for decades. But he's still sounds like he's from Worcester mass. Yes, see. It's funny. And my, my wife is from the Boston area, and in her family, all of the men, have Boston accent, and none of the women, do my wife's brothers have Brooklyn accents. And she doesn't weird. Yes. Thank God fritzy. You don't have a Brooklyn accent. Not too much not to know. No, no. You don't. It's like a vampire forgo upheld. Taking trait. Worcester? The mass Casey web, he slurps down some radical Rahman dull jobs in peanut butter Cup, French toast takes on a rack of deep fried ribs with the heat of a million Scoville, you, do you know what that is? Yeah. That's the level hotness or pepper their Scoville. Yeah. 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Any other issues you go into commissioners list, which direction, you think that meeting goes, I think he's going to be suspended for an asthma cooperate with it. If he doesn't cooperate, they're going to suspend him. I was at I, I asked the question this morning to two different sources. And I was told by one source didn't know wasn't comfortable saying anything and another one with the league who said that they thought that he was going to be suspended. Now. Is there wiggle room there, I guess, but I'm, I'm I get the feeling that the Commissioner is gonna suspend him. Now you don't have video and you don't have photographs that helps him because it feels like when you have video and, or photographs that's when everybody has an opinion on this, and it's easy to be judge. And jury this is a little bit trickier here because now I did threaten his fiancee. That's on tape the rest of that audio is. 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Megan Rapinoe One-On-One; Sen. Bernie Sanders One-On-One; "Here's The Beauty Part!"

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smack down to the trump administration effort spaghetti question about citizenship into the twenty twenty census on sunday the justice department for reasons reasons at are still not fully clear said it was replacing the entire legal team they argued the case well today a federal judge in new york said no they can't just do that and that almost never happens the change of council request or almost always granted but this this is not normal case she knows jessica schneider joins us now to explain the latest twist in it so the judge didn't hold back in in his order against the justice department's request he didn't say category clay it couldn't happen when he basically said they explanation doesn't make any sense that's exactly right anderson this federal judge out of new york jesse furman he's blasting the department of justice and it's tactics telling the deal jay it can just simply switch out it's team of lawyers without adequate explanation and that's why he's denying jay's requested change up it's worth at least until they can provide some reasoning for doing so and remarkably here enersen the judges really putting the onus on these individual lawyers addio jay saying he wants sworn inside affidavits from each of them explaining why they're withdrawing any also wants assurances that these lawyers will essentially be available as witnesses in any future proceedings dealing with sanctions begin this new york judge will also be reviewing any request issue sanctions in this case case if it's determined that administration officials more truthful when they gave their reasoning for wanting the citizenship question on the census so interesting this order from the judge really opens up a can of worms with the deal jay which still hasn't publicly explain why why it wants this change lawyers and all the thoughts are that you can't really have the same team of lawyers who said the census needed a start printing on july first now saying well there's plenty of time dad this question so it's a big problem for the cause of the supreme court when they rule they didn't say no you absolutely cannot use have this question on the census they said we don't buy the government's administration's argument about why they want to have it on it doesn't make sense their argument is just not truthful essentially the news the word truthful and now the lawyers who argued that it was really there there is a huge time crunch on this has been ruled by certain point the fact that now they will have to argue something else that might contradict their whole time argument it just puts them in a weird spot and they've also been working on for so long to just bring a new lawyers how would that even work well that's exactly what the judges raising question we hear the judges saying how come you bring in this new team of lawyers and still stick to this time line because motions do in just a matter of days the judges not only concerned that the deal jay hasn't given adequate reasoning for changing up their team of lawyers but also how will this really mess up the time line here year because after all the deal jay lawyers have consistently said time is of the essence here and now all of a sudden they wanna change up their entire team so this is really a the department of justice has to kind of work its way out of a real mess here in a discussion on her thanks very much joining talk about this campaign fund raising his opponents in the end the latest move she's making a combat climate change democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders independent senator from vermont joins me now senator sanders entendre climate change in just a moment the latest thing that you are doing grand central calling for a national emergency but first of all what is your reaction to the setback for the justice department andy administration in the sense this case of why do you think they really want this question on the census about citizenship well i anderson i don't think there's anybody was any doubts as to why they want that question it's the undercount latinos are so that they can create congressional districts which will not be democratic and also make sure the federal funding does not go to those under served the north in minority communities i think everybody understands that is their rationale and it's based on a very a bigoted a sense of what has to be done in this country today today the the president's said that he feels very badly for the labor secretary acosta and he's worked hard he's done a good job of causes obviously now under fire for me plea agreement that that he made with jeffrey epstein years ago in a case in florida after he was charged yesterday having allegedly operated sex trafficking ring involving dozens of underage girls should've asked to resign yeah you should a he resigned because he was part of a process which really exposes the two t a criminal justice system in america and it's not just steps thing it is the crux on wall street to destroy our economy who pay billions of dollars in fines to the federal government but not one of these people ended up in jail look the reality of american criminal criminal justice is if you're pool if you are a person of color you got treated in one way if you are rich and if you're gonna hire all kinds of lawyers and you have friends in high places you've got treated in another in another way and our job is in fact to do to create it criminal justice system which theoretically the founders of this country wanted and that is equal justice for all rich or poor black or white i i was running in tweets and you're calling free national mobilization akin to what do you i stayed after pearl harbor only this time the national emergency you're citing is is climate change what is that what is the national mobilization on climate change look like and you're in your hopes look what it looks like is that if we are going to save this planet nf we're gonna respond to what the scientists are telling us and that is that we have less than twelve years before they will be irreparable damage done to this country and that means more drought or floods or acidification of the ocean a more rising sea levels aboard mass migrations of people that are unless we stand up by the millions to the greed of the fossil fuel industry who are making billions of dollars every single year as they destroy this planet but we have got to do is mobilize millions of people who say you know what your short term profits on not more important than be long term health of this planet we have got to create leave our kids and grandchildren planet that is healthy inhabitable but by the way anderson you know it's not just the fossil fuel industry of what we see all across economy whether it is wall street whether it's the insurance companies the drug companies were charging us by far the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs insurance companies who will spend hundreds of millions of dollars to protect us moving to a medicare for all system what you're saying is eight corporate elite who's greed israeli destroying the middle class and working class of this country and that is what we have got the sense of climate change is an integral part of that struggle but it's not just climate change you introduced a resolution on this with alexander ocasio cortez in it is not likely to get past in the republican controlled senate is that just really a symbolic effort at this point no it's it's not the end representative blumenauer of oregon what's involved in it is well it well i hope pass the house and i think we've got put pressure on the senate look this is what the issue is is the future of this planet more important in the short term prophets of the fossil fuel industry do we tolerate a situation where we have eight precedent who is ignoring the science who thinks that climate change is a hoax we are fighting for future generations slip in a healthy c n habitable planet and the only way i know the real change takes place whether it's comically whether it is racially weather is environmentally is one millions of people are prepared to stand up and fight back and in this case take on the greed and the lies of the fossil fuel industry anderson you know what i am reminded up when i talk about the fossil fuel industry is exactly what went on forty years ago or so with the tobacco industry you'll recall they lied they lied smoking cigarettes is not a health problem it's fine doctors on tbs smoking is fine they lied and millions of people died including my father is a matter of fact to smoke two packs a day died as a result of belise and the fossil fuel industry is lying right now the debate is over climate change is manmade it is causing devastating problems we have got the transform our energy system away from fossil fuel energy efficiency see how sustainable energy as swallows dropped out of the race tom stiers declared his candidacy for president today seen the future of the democratic party well are surely hope not i know tom and tom is a decent guy a who was on a lot of good things he's been concerned about the environment is put money into voter registration all of which i think positive things but i think anderson a lefty american people are sick and tired of seeing the politically power of billionaires whether they are democrats or whether they are republicans i am very proud but in our campaign we have up to this point a received some two million individual contributions tribute sion's a which i think is some kind of world's rocket i may be wrong on that i don't think anyone has ever done that at this stage in a campaign averaging nineteen dollars a piece be american people are tired of billionaires making huge campaign contributions and you know i i stuck my sense of just finally center talked about campaign contributions elizabeth warren second quarter fundraising numbers i think clips yours you raise nineteen million you raised eighteen million a year now neck and neck and the cnn post debate poll she's improved prove their polling compared to the same poll month earlier what hurricanes tell you in a house where do you see this race right now how do you feel about well we have received if i'm not mistaken and i'm sure i'm not we have received more individual contributions and senator warren they were smaller smaller amount i think she was twenty six bucks i believe we were eighteen or nineteen dollars i'm feeling very good look this is a very different situation politicals situation than last time around where there were two major candidates this time there were twenty three three candidates a my guess is that at the end of the day a candidate who gets twentyfive thirty percent will actually a win state by state we have very strong grassroots organization we have over a million volunteers and strong organizations in iowa and new hampshire in south carolina about a california so we're feeling pretty good about where we are right now we think we stand an excellent chance not only to win the democratic nomination but the defeat the most dangerous precedent in a modern american history just one final thing about the interview meghan repay no from the us women's soccer team just won the world cup do you think they should get april first of all congratulations to them for their just beautiful after at of course like she equal pay in a bernie sanders appreciate your time thank you just had one of the biggest sports stars in the world fresh offer winning the world cup in france way of making repay knows i said in studio for whole half hour and talk about that win her activism of course you're back and fourth president trump and all the rest she'll be here in just a minute thanks to better help the world's largest online counseling program for supporting anderson cooper three sixty we all could benefit from a little therapy and better help makes it so easy to take advantage of i took the plunge 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sort of web and changing daily changing daily orator a bigger being a great heavier i think you are you exhausted are you running on a rental in are you where are you combination nation of olive at it's like fumes and water and adrenaline and getting to do exciting stuff like this so this is this is this is exciting for you than it is to up you're like no i at it is that anna maybe i'm a nurse a world world nerds organiz thank you well i mean how do you i got i ask you a lot of viewers for questions in stopping flooded with questions i mean one of them which i thought was interesting is just how do you do phase out all the stuff that swirling around do all this stuff with president trump all of that when you're on the field and repairing it'd be on the field or do you use it as motivation how do you do what you do that i don't know i don't know how i do it i don't face things out i don't like going to his own like i definitely am on the field at times like thinking about all of these things knowing the kind of impact but then in the same way i'm i'm just free in doing whatever but you're where you know you had one there would have been a whole other sort of reaction in blowback and yeah you know who knows what coming out of washington right yeah no i'm very very aware of that i'm aware of a not only sort of my position within the team the team and just all of the media and and how everything effects each other i just i think it's sort of naturally just kind of feel that and have a kind of go with the flow attitude but yeah i'm i'm aware that this was it's a huge win for us a metal as i wanna ask about de stance that you famously do an what what do you what is there a name for that i know of a lot of discussion i'm wondering if there were they protect where that came from your name for i don't know where it came from i made it up i actually did it in one game prior to leaving to the were leaving for the world cup 'em anna hadn't brought out for a while and i usually change things up a lot we always talk about you know obviously see the celebrations became a thing as well m i don't know where it came from and it just felt i felt the team in so much pressure on it and obviously individually we each have that pressure but more so as a team and it was just like this like moment it wasn't in sq moment at all it was a moment i think everyone to celebrate through that like you're not gonna take are joy from anything and it was just this like we arrived that's that's something like that yeah like are you not entertained by all like this circus is here's an order here it is a sort of very like circus entertainer yeah sort of in the center ring definitely yeah i did i i definitely see myself as an entertainer of horses player in take the crap seriously 'em in one adema best on the field but i also feel like especially with are team i do feel like were traveling circus we play so many games 'em you know obviously at the world cup that's the biggest stage and i feel like i just have that interaction with the crowd out in a way where you practice in front of the mirror like the shoe at home sale i know that's not gonna work and i don't think i did she would say that they shouldn't be shouldn't be very honest she's like where's this coming from what it is yeah i don't bring her a lot of things africa show win the lawsuit was announced a jury in the competitions you're you're you're in a threerun teammates filed against you at soccer federation equal pay it's gonna head mediation you agreed to mediation asian rather than immediately drawn to it to a court i wanna put just held the crowd reacted when after you win won the match and the chant that of equal pay that they start you could hear when you were on the field a little bit yeah i was like 'cause we're all getting ready to celebrate and you know just won the world cup again where like wait a second is that that that really happening you know what did it say to you that that that was coming back from 'cause i when i first heard that i thought oh maybe that's something like you had shorted that chance the crowd but it was actually the crowd show yeah i mean it just i mean i think we knew that this win if we were able to to win was gonna be bigger then soccer but that moment i think just solidify everything like this world cup win is so much more than what was on the field and it seems like one of those just sort of iconic turning point 'em in history to be on it so that kind of like cemented that and really kicked off that feeling of like wow this is this is so much bigger than just these people coming here to watch this game i don't know if you have seen this yet heard this but m v legendary women's rights advocates snoop dogg has weighed in on that i just wanna play for viewers a little bit i think i'm i'm hoping we believed at this is a dog wing in a supportive meghan and the team shutouts of usa women's soccer team for their fourth world cup when i'm gonna talk about is a they only get ninety thousand dollars per player but the man's if they want if they get five thousand five players this man from usa knocker teammate everyone ankle everyone can't even get out cars brown bear paint ladies man tatum girls what worse the women should be getting five hundred thousand per athletes skills or says so will you bring him to the mediation is probably the best team jake new is we have a good team of lawyers but we're gonna have him on the back burner i mean this is obviously a week and you know have fun about it but i mean it's obviously incredibly serious engine very important issue 'em how do you think is going to go i mean obviously you have the window and you're back right now and this is obviously you couldn't be in a better position going into a mediation and i think but what do you think the likelihood of actual substantial change because they're not just question of of money it's also question of you know you're forced to play on astroturf which is more dangerous than grass which the men are allowed to play and i understand even the lawsuit there one example where you played in the stadium on astroturf when the guys played there they rolled out grass on top of astroturf so the guy's playing grass seems to be safer for them right in josh rosen jimmy yeah it's so much more than the money obviously the money in the you know the compensation part is a big piece in the thing that gets talked about the most but it's really more about the investment in the game is investment equal talking marketing dollars and branding an investment in use investment in the players investment of the coaching staff 'em i don't think that's there i don't think that's ever been there i think the men's side of sports just in general is seeing this exciting opportunity business opportunity that needs to be invested and then the women's is like how cheap can we do this while you know sort of keeping them happy and what sort of incremental changes can we make you know at each step to just kind of keep them at bay and i feel like right now 'em were really excited obviously the the win as a is huge for a lawsuit and i don't think we need more public perception are side but we obviously have it all but i think for us it's like how can we collaborate to make this better i don't think the conversation is any more about you know should there be equal pay day we deserve it is the you know the ratings there is the money there whatever it's it's all there because there are people who say look the the attendance at at women's soccer matches around what it is admins a that that in general ratings were not as high or the money but it earns is not as great yeah i mean i think is what i would say that is is everything that gets the men to those games is everything equal until it is until we have equal investment in care and thought and brainpower put on both sides then we don't know what are potential is i mean right now i would say that were doing pretty good you know basically creating this entire business 'em without being compensated you know substantially or or the her store i interviewed male or female so that's something the fact that you're you're there you go you know exactly so and i think for us we we don't wanna have this huge public nasty fight that's not really in the best interest for anyone 'em we would much prefer to have a collaborative approach with seafo with the federation how can we move this forward how come we go to the next step 'em to create a world that is equal and fair end 'em yeah it's just equal and fair for everyone and then we have the conversation like five hundred years down the road when everything i'm had caught up on a stick around a more mckenry pino after this oh we don't discuss her activism a washington solid surface all the dirt solidarity with colin capper nick and this i have no i have not gonna be indicted you're not gonna be so i doubt it supports renters and cooper three sixty comes 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making his back i wanna play something you're coach joe ellis said after after the win on sunday while i think you were like being drug tested or something totally random in which which she was talking then apparently you walked in the room and said something like i killed a drug poster i did kill the i've i've paid in like five minutes not even i i knew as soon as the game was over and then obviously there's a long time so drank a lot of water kind of blood drawn down in death already done in dusted so this is what you're coach at up again you know making was a was built finish a bill to these moments on built to be a spokesperson for for for others do do you feel like that i mean do you feel like you are totally ended up like mrs the prime your in the zone and this was the moment that you knew you could command i don't think about it in that way 'em i think my personality just lends to this and it's just incredible 'em you know kind of coming together of you know obviously the the onfield play 'em activism though taken just the personality 'em that i have i don't know what my parents were doing they were raised in may but they're like oh my god what happened crazy wild and i'm like why do you always have to take it all on and i'm like i dunno it just feels normal and natural to me to to speaking the two thousand sixteen when you knelt during the playing of the national anthem before games elder their dirty without calling capper nick you road unethical why i'm kneeling and i just wanna report of it you said it's because of my utmost respect for the flag flag and the promise represents chosen demonstrating this way when i take a knee on facing the flag with my full body staring straight into the heart of our country's ultimate symbol of freedom because i believe it is my responsibility just as it is your is to ensure that freedom is afforded to everyone in this country and then at another point you you said in a tweet being a gay american i know what it means to look at the flag and not have it protect all of your liberties people still do not understand and criticize you for for bringing a one person you moment is bringing politics in the game for you know they're disrespecting the flag v anthem the country that is what the criticism is yeah it it very much is that i i don't fully i understand it either because 'em i think that taking care of others 'em standing up for your self and other people if they don't have the ability to do show is very uniquely american i think everybody in america would would say that and i think we have a a rich history in a pride in in saying that and those words and and oftentimes in doing that in the world 'em i don't think anybody can deny the horrors of racism and jim crow end mass incarceration and you know what's happening on the southern border and gay rights and women's rights like i don't quite understand you know sort of where the mrs because i think a lot of the people that disagree with me would benefit greatly from a world that is better for everyone you you do not see it as disrespecting the flag or or dancing i do not know 'em i think that protest is not comfortable ever for a it's and it's gonna make people uncomfortable it's it's gonna you know force people to look inward and a question you know everything they thought that they knew it's not convenient it it doesn't feel good really for anyone 'em even in those moments kneeling 'em those were you know somehow less crazy personal moments that that i've ever had 'em but that's what it takes progresses hard lose the moments kneeling were were difficult for you yeah it was it was it people action or a little bit yeah obviously knowing you know especially after the first time that i did it a you know knowing how angry people were 'em but also if it was difficult and heavy but i i had the cement sense of pride in responsibility in in doing that so i think that's where the strength of of doing at a number of times came from i think i read something you said a in front of me but about being an ally that'd being and ally on issues you care about is shouldn't feel comfortable but it should feel right it shouldn't have been easy everyone would do it exactly i think it's supposed to be really uncomfortable i think the the whole point is to put yourself in someone else's shoes or try to or at least just say i don't totally understand but i believe you i think when people 'em you know don't take the path of ally ship they're kind of thing that they don't believe what the other person is going through and i know for myself a before the kneeling asking people to you know to respect me in my life and the way that i was born and i don't need you to fully understand it you never could but if you if you don't allow me that's space it later kind of saying that what i'm saying is lying and i feel like especially with the police brutality and racial injustice 'em if you're not down with that you're you're kind of disregarding those people's experiences in this world do you a soccer federation in past rule out of not allowing players to kneel you don't sing the national anthem you know put your hand over their heart if if that rule wasn't in place would you kneel during the world cup i dunno 'em yeah i mean i i don't know how long the protest would've would've gone i don't know how long it would have needed to go on obviously a cat you know notes the whole time that he was in nfl news now the nfl when you see a day where you don't when you do put her hand over your heart and sing the national anthem yeah i'm very hopeful that absolutely i mean i think it's gonna take a lot of years and a tremendous amount of work by this country but i absolutely hopeful that i think that 'em would not until there is significantly change issues the the owners is among on all sorts of issues yeah yeah so it's gonna take a a tremendous amount and maybe we you know maybe in my lifetime unlikely in my lifetime we we don't get their a but that hopes they'll prove this process and i think that if not striving for that 'em there were sort of just in this dead space if anything they have such a person please just told me the but were coming out to your friends and your family was that a difficult process freaks understand the uk measuring call in college to friends and family publicly later on but but to friends and family without a difficult process were waving a teenager was that difficult knowing you had those feelings 'em it was difficult for me in the moment i didn't realize it until i got college and then assumes i realized that looking back on my teenage years i was like oh you didn't realize major i did it kind of shocking on like i'm a little bit and i and i was like mom i really like we were talking about this 'em the teenagers were a little hard to like like six choking on i know it's so embarrassing actually cause i'm just bury gay but i don't know how it happened but if you click that was like has arrived here her life is beginning so it it really was not a at the legs and that whoa this oh i get it no tell me i would actually upset and i'm like what i mean i'm told me did you not you knew about gay people really i did i know it like it was i couldn't see the force is crazy thing 'em wow okay yeah seahawk style really sack m v a white guy now that caught me by surprise 'em but but but but being a gave american and a having a a partner partner sousa of of a very accomplished basketball player do you think it does make you look at society in a different way i've always felt in it's made me better reporter it's made me and observer or at least growing up feeling like an outsider in are busy server of things sometimes more they don't participate absolutely i think it but it's shaped my entire world view on my twin sister actually escape as well and she actually had a very difficult time sort of coming to terms with it herself and obviously a lot friends and not just people that i know i know how much struggle there is interest in my own life i'm not i feel like i'm not affected by homophobia that much 'cause i'm like whatever but it's there and i you know i feel in this part of you know my everyday life life and i feel like just having that perspective of not being exactly like everyone else's gives you this boost of empathy 'em and i am so thankful for that i don't know what it would be like if i if i didn't have that but i just feel like it it puts that's position to trust and understanding believe people that they're going through whatever they say that they're going to agree on the empathy thing i think it it is it otherwise i feel like i would be you know i mean i'm i'm privileged in many ways but italy's has allowed me something of a different way of seeing things which i think has been very beneficial do 'em i i need to ask you about the president's stuff so win okay i wanna play played the thought that that sort of started all of this and the public mind about by the white house thing going on now now have were not gonna be invited you're not gonna be but i doubt it so those extra shot awhile ago i understand it wasn't just released at the time was shot by by some crew did you know that it would calls her propofol no i did not know that on anyone that knows me knows what i used to much you're mojo's singing about nontraditional now statements yes i is a way to way too much leeway to loosely but no i didn't realize that news more obviously it was a at a i think are jersey unveil for the for the new jersey leading into the world up and it was kind of in a in a passing moment but i mean i meant with old inflection in all of the sort of attitude that it gave it a and then all of that in every word of it 'em now if you there i mean as far as we know as far as i there is not an invitation from the president to the white house he had said later on well you know he had a had criticized you 'em but said that the winner lose that he said do you should win before before you talk and the winner lose your team would be invited there hasn't been an invitation publicly yet would you would you go would you were teammates go i would not go and every team in that i've talked to me about it would not go 'em everyone that you've talked everyone that talk to you yeah i don't think i don't think anyone on the team has any interest in lending the platform that we worked so hard to build and the things that we fight for in the way that we believe are life i don't think that we want that to be co opted are corrupted by the administration station in going to the white house would be in in your opinion risk co op singer corrupting you would your message yeah i think so i think it's it's an opportunity a first administration to sort of put us on display is there a you know sort of guest for the day and i don't think that makes sense for us it all 'em i can't imagine any any one of my teammates would wanna be put in that position 'em there's there's so many other people 'em that i would rather talk to and have you meaningful conversations 'em that could really affect change in washington than going to the wise to the white house there's a good chance the president's watching the interview or will watch this interview what what what is your message to the present a depressing 'em i think that i would say that you're message is excluding people a year excluding maker excluding people that looked like me you're excluding people of color you're excluding you know american that 'em that maybe support you 'em i think that we need to have a reckoning with us on the message that you have and what you're saying about make america great again i think that you're harking back to an area that was not great for everyone it might have been great for a few people and maybe america is great for a few people right now but it's not great for enough americans in this world and i think that we have a responsibility each and every one of us you have an incredible responsibility as you know the chief of this country on to take care of every single person and you need to do better for everyone you do make america great again if it means going back to in america from the forties or fifties a best in america where you could be imprisoned for being gay where you could be sent by her family to a mental hospital where you could not walk down the street a holding hands with their loved one or i could not walk down the street or go dancing or or anything it's it's interesting how different people view things through a very personal ends and as you said maybe don't walk in the shoes of other people who you know did not have rights in a past healthy on america yeah it was on not a great place for a lot of people very oppressive place 'em and that's not to say that it was the worst place in the world and i think that's the one of the things that a lot of people go to no one's saying that they want to leave america but i think as as one of of on the great countries in the world and first for sure we wanna see ourselves as that we need to constantly look within challenge ourselves to be better so everyone else can be better around us do i know you've been invited by congresswoman alexandria cossio cortez i think nancy pelosi shot chassis so does that mean that invitation you're taking up nancy pelosi has said you know you're you'd be welcome to a bipartisan congressional will thing 'em you plan on going to washington in one could vote one way or another yes definitely 'em and i think even this nine conversations with the teammates that i've had i think everyone is entrusted in going to wash and i think we've always been interested in going to washington 'em this is such a special special moment for us to be able to you know sort of levers this moment talk about the things that we wanna talk about into celebrate like this west the leaders of our country is an incredible moment so yes kfc yes nancy pelosi us to 'em the bipartisan congress fiesta chuck schumer yesterday anyone else that wants to invite us and have a real substantive conversation 'em end up believing the same things that we believe in other words before he came out on the road in her bernie sanders said then you should get equal pay and whining particularly the say hello to a just very quickly a couple of things and again if us to personal 'em you have a you you you tweeted you're you're brother tweeted you you tweeted you're brother he was my understanding is he is the person who got you into stock soccer when you were a little kid and you really look up to him he's he's obviously and it's been public he's he's had a troubled he's been in and out of prisons in problems with with with drugs 'em he was saying how you or his hero but you always looked up to him and now he looks up to you a end up your protest a helped him in sort of empowered him yeah made me emotional 'em yeah he he definitely is someone that is very special means you know i've just seen firsthand 'em you know how the sort of prison system has ruined his life and a lot of ways at ruined the first you know thirty eight or a thirty nine thirty eight thirty nine years of of his life 'em so it'd be able to share this moment a with him and have him be out and doing well 'em is just it it sort of means the world to me we've had 'em a lot of conversation since he's been out of a relationship we've always been close 'em it's been sort of up and down over the years 'em but i think he he sort of had a a kind of come to jesus this moment about his life like what is he doing this these allegiance is reliance says he had imprison what is that wasn't me what kind of life is he living what kind of you know legacy does he wanna leave as a person or what kind of impact us he wanna have as a person and if felt like probably you know seeing me in having all these other people come up to him 'em in say the things that they were maybe good in bed in prison 'em i think it just brought this new perspective to his life of like i don't care if i'm you know nobody buddy i still have a life that could have an impact on and i can be better and right now like my life is just i'm not i'm not doing anything good with it and that's just not someone that i wanna be just one of course i'm not gonna ask you how long you play soccer for cause and would be ages and i think there's such a bad as you could play for as long as you want as far as i could tell but i was reading i know nothing about sports by the way i read a lot about it understand i didn't know you made a home run or a basically did though they hit a grand slam yeah okay drop drop right now and just walk off one of i understand there's never been a world cup teams at one end and wednesday olympics in back to back years in one a you aiming for twenty twenty olympics yes definitely definitely and it's in japan is gonna be incredible i love everything about tapping and have you alter 'em i think it's gonna be amazing olympics and hopefully unlucky enough to to be a part of it out of their last performance they don't explain what you're all joined us yeah for sure cool absolutely wow was such a pleasure to talk to you area everyone wants to hang out with ocean has like we just had a new york next week okay cool like on a rice mix that with thanks so much will be right back remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash cnn tonight christmas here and talk about what he's got coming up on cuomo primetime chris loved they interview that you and i would i could talk to her fillet furlong since i'm very easy to talk to the best of us forget about the politics of us and she put the country on top in a way that really matter stolas also just like june did it like as she said she's the real deal now the greatest in their areas of john as it always is something that they're not surprised happens but you know what i mean she's done it so much loved it break get gratefully audience thank you for letting watch that we have tonight they acting secretary of dhs they've got new numbers about how many people being held how many kids and what the conditions are and what is the deal with accountability and let's just get to the main point hopefully tonight will get some clarity what did we get are cameras in there when do we get to see what's going on enough with anecdotes and the politics let people see what the hell is going on so we have him on at the top and then we have rosie o'donnell on the show not heritage's bash trump i think she and he have done enough of that in their lifetime but i wanna talk to her about whether or not she thinks her party could be this president's who end how end she wants to get involved with the border as well she's got a big event that she's gonna be part of this friday will talk about that chris lots of look forward to that's about six minutes mousy then coming up next long before president trump the 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you find a colorful very fast talking tax in sometimes with his own charge saying things if you see a snake just kill it dona point committee on snakes attacks and was a billionaire former eagle scout and i bm's salesman named h fur henry ross perot well ross perot died today of leukemia he was eighty nine years old he made a huge mark in this world and he leaves the big void and they also see here outlived a life in politics like no other if you're that serious you the people that series you register me in fifty states he was by far the most consequential third party presidential candidate in modern history original made for tv billionaire with white house ambitions number one i will not run is either a democrat or republican 'cause i well not sell out anybody but the american people and i will sell out tonight the year was nineteen ninety two and incumbent president's in fellow texan george h w bush besieged by critics both liberal and conservative perreault an eagle scout turn navy 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