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Megan Gailey

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Megan Gailey

"Something in a way. He moved looks my way of scenes leave. Troubled fanzine down double game always seems to make me change guys. Welcome to the show. We're attempting to do this in a unique way to continue bringing guys content. Obviously the sports world has please shut down including snooker which I know that hurts. A lot of people Snooker tournaments down guys so it's almost over but We are. We're GONNA attempt to do this podcast every single week. A while socially distancing. We're GONNA get a guest on the phone via the ringer APP. And we're just going to try and do this. I hope we can provide you guys some relief. We're GONNA start to do a daily podcast. Jason is check that out to called Scarborough country virus episodes thirty minutes. A day does take on the world. They'll be a little bit of sports in there but I think we WanNa do our top take the day. We have a great guest today. By the way Mega Gailey who worked for the NFL network is married to a great comedian? He's a great comedian and married to a great guy. Cj told Donahue is NBA Guy so her love sports she tells one of the greatest hat McAfee stories ever on this episode. So you definitely want to stick around for that But top TAKE J. Let's let's take it away wall Yeah the top take the day is obviously you know the sports world in games have ceased but I think you know when we look at the larger picture of what this virus has done and how it has deprived us of this thing. This this distraction this thing that we would need that otherwise used to get us through a tough situation like this when you think about you know what do I need right now when I'm sequestered in my House. It's to watch sports That is the distraction that keeps you away from the terror and the disastrous and now without that were stock so we're forced to soil and the and the truth of it is j people to watch the Games without fans I give you would have said the march madness was gonna continue and we'd have this tournament of games without fans people would people would have gladly accepted that but that's not even happening. I am finding myself watching my son play. Nba Two K. And getting really into the Games. That's how desperate I am for sports like I'm arguing with like you know. A virtual doc rivers like why is I'm like why is Paul. George. Aren't we all? Aren't we all arguing with a virtual doc rivers on a daily basis? I mean I'm watching old old Michigan on Youtube like full mich- like nine thousand nine hundred eighty nine Michigan Versus Illinois in the NC Double A.'s. Semi finals you know. I'm watching these old full games because you can get him on the TV. They look like Real Games. And you're watching the old playing style versus the way that is today. I watched the old Michigan. Nineteen ninety one against Ohio states to get to the final four in the elite eight and by the way both teams were like three for ten from three point. Range like took more than like ten three point shots. Do you know how to have that Guy Chris Gent or something like that the Levy Gent? Yeah it was awful. Yeah I mean I watched nineteen seventy-nine cubs versus Phillies the twenty three to twenty two game at Wrigley with the phillies. One spoiler alert Bruce suitor on the hill. I mean it was and the cubs came back from twenty to twenty in the bottom of the eighth too tight. Twenty two twenty two. Everyone was out of shape. Berry FOOT BERRY FLOORS UP BERRY FOOTS. The number on his uniform to small like in my mind all the whole time and watching. I'm like I need go. Rhino has to recreate. Every one of these guys. Baddies dances so you gotta make them do a Berry foot. The truth is like who is happy about. Is Anyone happy about this? This stoppage or the shortage. I mean some athletes might be happy that they can spend time with their families which they normally can't but is anyone happy. That's the question the answer that no I think there is one group of people who are happy about the corona virus and they won't admit it publicly but it is the Houston Astros. Because when you think about a group of people a team that was more maligned. A team. That was under the microscope. A team that everyone was gunning for with hatred in there is no. I'm not saying that that's sort of hatred won't come back if we get through this and a few months and we're back and we're back on the season but I think right now the Houston. Astros are breathing a sigh of relief. Because when baseball comes back people will just be grateful to have the Games again and the anger and the Venom and the air out of that balloon. That was heading straight for the. Astros head on probably two or three pitches provider. I'm saying that air has been let out. And we're now in his relation where they don't have to face that kind of scrutiny. Because we're just grateful. They're big they're going to be coming back with everyone else. It's petty to throw it. Someone's head if you're out there. Just appreciate the trout playing the game that you love getting paid to do it. That's what you're saying. I still think they should throw their heads but I do think I do. Think will that conversation would be picked up again. I think we don't have a baseball season. And if we don't have sports for a year you'll never hear about that thing again. I think a few slide by and they even start playing games without fans. You will still have that conversation again. But it will be muted because this virus and this pandemic and this absolute like explosion into our societal traditions in our norms in my opinion gave them a pass and solar. Dd in mind. They're thanking it. They're being in the interesting thing. Is that guys like Clayton Kershaw. I think about. I've been thinking a lot about Clayton. Kershaw maybe I. Maybe I'm thinking about him more than I should think about. Clayton Kershaw more than some of his family members. Think about it. I just not as immediate family but maybe like a cousin like a third cousin of Clayton Kershaw Cow. I highly doubt that but okay I just I think he is one of the best pictures of our time and deserve the ring and the truth of the matter is the fact that if the sign stealing was one thing that kept him from getting his ring. That's number one number two now. This global pandemic steps in the middle. Not that he cares about it makes it impossible for him to complain about it because there are people in their lives or people losing their jobs. He can never complain about again. He set for life for money. He's had a wonderful career. He's a first ballot hall of Famer but something was taken from him and in the grand scheme of things more long. Pass this pandemic which. I'm praying for the time that we are in life returns back to some level of normalcy that and that may be two years from now or three years now four five six year even when he's in the hall of fame he's GonNa think to himself. God I wish I would have that opportunity at least to throw it. Someone's head and not be let called petty for doing that agree with you. One hundred percent. Let's take a break on the other side of this break. We're GONNA TALK TO MEG meg. She has a great podcast called the greatest with her husband hilarious. Cj Donna. They are both funny comics. 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Post your job today at indeed dot com slash cheap seats and get a free sponsor job upgrade on your first posting that's indeed dot com slash cheap seats terms conditions and exclusions apply offer valid through March thirty. First Two thousand twenty. Hey guys welcome back to the show. This is the future of technology and the current state of affairs. We're doing a podcast via ringer As we mentioned in our guests on the show is hilarious. Comedian who we've hung with in Montreal. We know she knows her sports. You've always been a fan of hers and we're so glad to have on the show. She's been very hard to get to throughout this crime by. She's the busiest person in the world. Megan gale thank you for joining us. I'm truly truly honored. I just told one of my corona threads of gals that I needed to stop talking to them because I was going on the sklar brothers podcast and they they're alive. They're excited nice. It's lit I love the truth. The truth is that we love to talk to comedian. Who really know their sports? And so like your your dream for us because not only are you funny. We just saw you do the funniest set at the belly room up at the comedy store but I think you even strangled some great sports references throughout that set just phenomenal. Thank you thank you know I used to work for the NFL worked for the NFL and ESPN. So you can be anything so so obviously we love that you love. Sports is rainy. Said this is the question. That's on my mind because I WANNA know. If other people have good ways of coping with no sports how are you dealing with the fact that there are no sports right now? It's so interesting because I feel like sports in this crisis was really a signifier to me that it was real like once the NBA got. Shut DOWN I was like. Oh okay now. It's real more so than anything else. My husband works for a basketball based company. We are huge fans I mean. Nfl Free Agency is really getting me through. But I'm a colts fan. And I. I hate Philip Rivers so much so I was like. Oh watching it to this is bad. I mean I went into my room and just screaming. No at the top of my lungs and my husband was like what happened. Who HAS IT? Who has it and I was like no? We Have Philip rivers like. It's worse off this data traffic in my life right. I mean when you think about it. Philip Philip Rivers. What do you think about Philip Rivers? He is multiplying like the corona virus. He has like nine kids bashing it's like you. Your key. Like makes too much sense in Indianapolis like he has so many children he so white like he is top ten whitest people on Earth and loves the Lord and that is something that Indianapolis is going to embrace in a way. That almost makes me sick. Like she is going to get there and see how many applebees there are and be like I don't know why ever lived in San Diego Right San Diego's far to progressive for him. Well I mean the Phil rivers rule is if he wins more games. He has kids your good. That's it you get He may be good for you guys you never know what if he like has just crazy. Resurgence You don't have to worry about Tom Brady anymore right or is still no no? I think the bucks NFC? I guess. I get them confused because I like Joe. Nobody does the. Nfl fell one. I Hate Jay Winston. So even that like like everyone's moves had made me so happy but my own teams and so that has been difficult. But I like this new defensive linemen that we got like. I do think there's some positives. I Love Jacoby Burr set. I think he's such a good guy and seemed like the locker room really loved him and he also had a better year than Philip rivers. Last year like Philip rivers had a catastrophic year. The colts actually had a good year. We were cursed by Adam. Venit Terry who I do love I have so much love for is the greatest of all time. He cost us our entire season last year. Though I think this panic to be like we need a quarterback is a little like ill based Gould. I agree with them. I mean we need to kick her and the interesting thing for me is that the colts lost Andrew Luck last year. And this happen sports all the time. Isn't it amazing? How sometimes you think you lose the biggest thing ever and you become addition by subtraction so the nationals Bryce Harper and then and then they win the world series. You know what I mean. You guys lose Andrew Luck and then you go on a crazy run. I think the Celtics are a lot better this year. I think there I think this I mean the raptors are that we're better I guess I I'm not even to the point where I'm able to talk about the NBA and past tense yet. Because it still feels like like it still feels like it's like when you're father leaves abandoned your family like unlike. Lebron's going to walk through the door any minute. He's coming back right right and do a tick. Tock dance Yeah I mean I feel I. I feel like you know my son's eleven and he just this year got super the NBA to the point where we were watching like an NBA game per night or maybe two and Taking that away from US feels like a disaster like that was the time we were sharing and getting into together. And that's been put on hold outs ups absolutely I think the NBA more than any other leagues also really is the Voice of sort of social change. And you know all of those athletes individually so much better than you do with any of the other sports and for them to be sick and for it to be shut down and for it to feel like. They don't really have anything they can do. Right now almost hurts. More to yeah. Yeah yes in. I mean the crazy thing was that we all realize we all knew Rudy Gobert suck and then you saw with Mike von Your Life Thanking Kid for the dentist. The dentist Green Moment. He is who we thought you was around his ass. What a tough tough video to live on. Jr Smith has finally. I can be at peace. There is a stupider. Nba Player than took. His shirt off took his shirt off and said I can finally breathe so so. Let's let's talk about so there is no sports. Are you going back and watching? What I'm doing. It's going back and watching. Old University of Michigan Basketball Games from the nineteen eighty S. That is giving for it in some an Michigan football. That's giving me comfort in some way. Do you have a team beyond the cultures? Are you going to go back and watch old peyton Manning Colts Games and for sure GONNA go back and watch that Colts Patriots? Afc Championship Game. Where we come came back from like twenty eight down. I've already requested that day. One of the quarantine. My husband has not agreed yet and then I think we're probably going to go back and why I well he just. He doesn't care for colts at all. He doesn't care so it's Gonna I'M GONNA have to sell him on. That and I was at that game and I was so drunk so I really want to recreate the entire. You know I want to feel like I'm back in the Dome and then I think the cavs Warriors That down three one came back to win it. Block block you. You're so drunk at the colts game. They missed took you for the colts. Kicker Pat McAfee Jayantha McAfee. Mcafee is like the guy who got drunk ran away from the cops in dove into a river. I have a tough story about that too. I was with Patton McAfee that night. Please okay so tell us read them. I was performing at crackers in broad ripple rest in peace closed now in my dream and my entire life was to be performing stand up and then colts players. Are there like I was just like if coal plant? Cb stand up. I will wind up on the colts. So I'm doing I have. I don't know what's who's in the audience. Whatever at the end of the show. I realized that Payton's backup. Curtis painter was in the crowd and then along with these two other guys one of them was pat. Mcafee another guy was this guy who was like an all American in College Oklahoma. But then wasn't good in the NFL and so they waited for me and my two friends after the show. We're like do WANNA go drink with us and I'm like this is my moment is what I've been waiting for so we go to. This is how I get on the colts. Yeah I mean literally literally literally. This is how I get on couple of we go. We go to a around the corner and it was there by week. So this was the Tuesday of their upcoming Sunday. They had off so they are raging like it is like they had the line up like eighty different shots of Jamison and we're just giving them to people in the bar. And so God mega mega raising like it's spring break in Florida today. Which is yes. They are coughing on each other and then playing tug of war for no reason up shots. And what are you doing? I mean. I'm getting drunk at this. I was like a young woman. I'm like this is a thrill for me with a puncture. Oh my God and so. We got very very drunk. I had a boyfriend at the time and so I went into the bathroom to call him and he later was like you sounded incoherent. And then I remember who a car to go home and then I remember there being police lights and then the very next thing I remember I woke up in my parents dining room and I I had fifteen minutes halls. Five zero missed calls and like the very first heck's message I open said turn on the news and I'm like all wrong. This is this. Is this like your own? This is like your own personal hunter Momento. You have to figure out what happened. Yes yes and so I turn on the news. And the sin tightly slips along was like eleven am so like the local news was back on and it was the lead story. They were showing him being released from prison. One of the girls that I was with she had actually gone home with one of the guy one of the other players and she said they got a call and six. Am and they had to go down and bail him out so she was there when he failed out. But then my two friends and I were referred to as unidentified women on Z. Come on the way. That's probably you still use that as a credit when credit that's an incredible credit or identified men on TMZ. We are amazing amazing. I can't believe you a part of it. Did you know that he was going over the edge to like in literally and figuratively or? Were you dislike? I'm out of control myself now. The last photo I was I think at one point. We all took photos together. I had a photo on my phone from that night. And he was. Someone had tim so he was like down on his knees. Chugging smirnoff ice and that was kind of like the last moment that I that I have any recollection or that. I have any record of what was happening. How did you get to your parents dining? Did anyone ever explain that to you so I took a car and I do remember the cops speaking to the driver and I remember saying just take her home so so so cops were on the scene. I got the cops for taking care of you. Own A gun. I love it. The cops are like she's going to be too embarrassed to be found with the punter. Anyway get out of here. Yeah they probably were just like she doesn't look ahead. I can tell you pretty girl and his term make you a better colts fan. Can you say my colts fan of before and after that story? I think so. My Phantom before was pretty high and then I remember people telling me like you should sell that photo. You should call in and give your story. I would never I would never betray the horseshoe I would never in so I think my phantom probably like stayed the same but I was tested and I realized that I was more loyal pulse fan than I even understood did. That's unimpressed now. Here's my here's my thing and this is what we tell people who think that they're real fans of sports. I say you're not a true fan of sports unless your team losing on your particular day when it's football you only get one a week and you only get sixteen or seventeen or in college. You only get twelve so when your team loses in it ruins your next four or five days ruins it absolutely that deep your that because it gets to the. I remember so that this year the Colts. It was sort of like whatever happens as a positive. You know you're playing on house money just because luckily being so close so I did have highs and lows fully. I've invited people over for the chiefs colts Sunday night game and I kept being like I'm going to be chill. I'm going to be cool and then I was a full blown psychopath of all of my friends but if the colts news I'm I can't watch. Espn for the next. Like two days won't even turn the TV zone where the where the same early we got so we get so mad we get mad and we get so angry and it's like why did you do this to us. You're ruining our lives. Yeah absolutely alto all right so do you think we have an NFL season? Let me ask you that like obviously we can't look into a crystal ball but like do you think we'll have an NFL season this fall. You know I was talking to someone. Yesterday who works in sports end is a lot more connected and knows a lot more than I do and he was talking to me about river like he was talking about free agency and then offhandedly he was like look like a real season anyways so that makes me think maybe there will be but there won't be fans maybe they push it like. It is so crazy to think like in August in September like still won't be resolved but I guess it's less that and more well at some point as start and then training camp and if all of that can't happen because of the numbers and the close proximity that people have to be with each other than it's actually not safe enough for them to be playing football right. That's right. Yeah so you almost have. You must have to back time. Yeah Yeah you gotTa get to answer your question. I mean I almost hope that Like now that I'd hate teams quarterback. I'm like I'm fine if we missed the season but the NFL is just so greedy. And I need that with all due respect that I just can't imagine them letting go a full seats and I think it will be modified in some way but I do think we will have a season and there will be like a super bowl champion in twenty twenty one again. I love how much we we talk about this a lot. How much you love sports. And how how big a part of your life it is. Is it the same way for you that you know when we're so focused on the business as it were doing stand up trying to write TV shows and all that stuff that sports provides for you this escape where you can just turn off for like a few hours? Just not even think about that stuff. Oh one hundred percent. I think imus get frustrated living in La that. I don't have more friends who are as insane as I am. Here you go to. I mean that's like it's like I'm constantly like screaming about things but it is really nice. My husband obviously cares a lot. I also find works to be a really Nice escape from the terrors of the world. I like whoever? Has the most points wins. That's just what it is and whether you hate them or not like there isn't any no one really ever gets a fast one hold on them. It's just a most playing the Astros Nicer Master. But that's why people were so mad about that has there. There is order in sports unlike politics. You're like well. That guy lost the popular vote. But now he's our president or these people doing this thing and it's keeping these people from getting a Meghan Meghan. You're right. There's this notion that like people won't concede elections anymore. They're like no even when you lose your like now I WANNA recount. And it's like nope the game. You lost by seven points in this basketball game. Walk-off shake everybody's hand and walk off the court and try and get on that I mean it happens. Even in a word shows the things that win all the movies actors. Who can we see the stats on this? Because that seems crazy to me like you watch it you know when things are stop when the saints get screwed. It's like okay. Well they got screwed. But this score is the score and now it's over and I do love that simple and classic to me that I cling to rib same. They've gotTa love. It will so much so that you are doing a sports podcast yourself. Please let our listeners know so that they can jump on that train. What it is what you I'm your host it with my husband. Cj Toledano and we are huge sports fans he works for House of highlights. Currently we've both worked for the NFL and the greatest. I know that's like a very intense name to have her podcast. That has nine episodes sickly we go back and we we have a guest on and we look at we've done greatest coaches of all time greatest WNBA WNBA players of all time. Greatest sneakers of all time. So it's kind of a really great one for right now because we're talking about everything that's in the sports time capsule and lexicon and we really don't need anything to be happening because we're we're looking back to the past. That's so I love that idea. I love that idea so I was watching on. Nba TV hardwood classics. The other night. Because I like I need to see sports and they were showing the Lebron. Mcdonald's all American game with Chris Paul and it and it was just so great to hear what people were saying about him and projecting his future at that point and they were saying he's going to be the next Magic Johnson or he's going to be most same as Johnson then. Last night I watched the Michael Jordan Bulls Bulls cavs Michael Jordan. Sixty nine point game and I was trying to watch Michael in the context of Lebron. 'cause we hear the debate but it's been awhile since. I've watched a full start to finish not edited down full every single play game of Michael Jordan. I watched Jordan play against the cavs. And yes you know. Craigie low would be like the ninth guy off the off the bench on any NBA team right now. But he was like they're starting guy and mark is like five five four but like but Michael Jordan was so dominant in a way that like it was wanted in my eyes to watch him and and having watched Lebron this year with the Lakers. I'm like you know what you know what Michael was better and I am not ashamed to say it and and look I love the Brandon. I think he could do the world but there were moments in that game where Michael scored fourteen straight points and all of them were contested. Shots and the he was he was so dominant and when he wanted to go to the rack he scored or got fouled made his foul shots. He was lying. It's great because an argument. This is why they're podcast is great. Because you're like this is the best part about sports. The A is Mike. Trout is is Mike Trout Mickey Mantle. Let's get into it right now. I mean is. He resume better is he. Willie mays who is and and we have yet to even get to those really in. Ken select an individual player competitions. And some of that is because the fight it would cause between us by I am. I'm a known Jordan Hater. I'm an Indianapolis Pacers Fan Michael Jordan. I have the same birthday. He's been shoved down my throat. Since I was born and an but in my core I do know that he is the greatest player will time but it pains me so much in front of these shops that I even said that on record all of his all of Cj's Jordan shoes in his closet just lit up when you said that. I now Lake Road. God He's yeah and it's it's hard to call them the Indianapolis Pacers. I do like that. Because they were the market square arena markets. There has to be from like you guys are obviously huge Michigan. Fans in Indiana Purdue and U. Basketball is probably bigger than the Pacers on any given the area. Just feel like it's not I don't want to be I know that. They're the Indiana Pacers. The rest of the state has done nothing for us. Okay we are carrying this piece of shit place across the finish line on a second. Hey wait a minute be. You're saying Tara Hoedt is in pulling its weight Meghan Evansville Evansville Purple Aces Evans Villes in Illinois College within the Purple Aces. Only college team to ever have sleeves on the man's sleeve with a religious thing. Oh Job Sure. They can show a shoulder. I know they're trying to be very you know all right. So the gray. It's your podcast is called the greatest and people can get on I tunes or wherever. But it's a for for those who loved the sports debate Which is Great? I mean because you guys are so knowledgeable because you guys are passionate and his guests. I take a we. Have you thought you would be a huge for us? We will do it absolutely because we have so many opinions growing up in Saint Louis Saint Louis Cardinals fans. I'm in baseball cardinals fans. We grew our grew up in the eighties when they went to the world series. Three times once in got screwed once. And it's like it's just a fascinating wonderful thing to be a part of to love team. That has that sort of tradition and again like the Pacers of the nineties. That's when you kind of. Were assuming kind of those. Those teams were so fun to watch like the one of the greatest players of all time on there. Like you've games and you were into a flying. Dutchman that's crazy MIDAS donating Dutchman my F- my favorite one of my favorite chief seeds jokes was. It's it's Indiana Pacers centric. It was go go doing double Dutch going. Double Dutch is taking out Ritz Mitt. Rick Smits and his wife going eight data yourself and everybody everybody paying for them. Look I did not know Rick. Smits was from a different country until like ten years into his. I was like Oh Hema v from French. Lick as well like. They're so soon his name either either. He hated shaving so much or he could only grow what we grew it. Our Bar Mitzvah. But that's that trash stash that he sports like that like that probably got him kicked out of Amsterdam well and then there was that season. It was like a playoff run where they all shaved their heads. And you Jermaine O'Neal and you're like well. That's not good and then you saw rick smits and it was like. Oh my God sick. All it's like you need an in-between yes. I'm so sorry about your non Lymphoma Rick Ari. Let's let's take a break and when we come back we'll do some quick it's with the Great Meghan. Gaily of the greatest podcast. We'll be right back with the chiefs right after Kris. If you were to guess on average how many days people United States have to wait to see a doctor and nowadays it's even more. What would you say a week? Maybe action on average people have to wait around twenty nine days. 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You'll ever do something dumb because of your anxiety and we got so many great stories. One Guy Literally commando crawled out the back of a coffee shop to avoid talking to ex. They'd broken up four years before and I completely relate. We have worst stories from ourselves. So listen to the PODCAST and relate. Y'All ever get it wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys welcome back to the show We're so happy to have megan gale with this. Follow her on twitter. She is nagging. Gaily Janai G. A. L. E. Y. Follow her and follow us on twitter and follow us on Instagram Are you the same on Instagram? By the way and actually better nagging gala Leon instagram because there was a Meghan gaily and I needed to send her a message is better than your as better than Ezra better than no. It's called better than Meghan. Gaily L. E. Y. Follow her on Instagram And we tell this to all of our right now. While there aren't a lot of live show there are no live shows happening and whatnot. Go back in the archives and watch. I'm sure you have clips of your stand up online. She is so good. You guys I'm just GonNa say this out there to our fans like we said we were running. Our cone inset a couple of weeks ago and we zipped up to the you'll love this because. I don't know if you saw us you sauce right as you're about to go onstage. But warmer run it. We ran our cone inset probably sixteen times the week before we de we ran at two times at the Improv and it was great and then we came up to the store and followed Joe Rogan in the main room showed was running thirty minutes late and we got onstage around ten fifty five at night and everyone basically was done after he got killed goes and we went up there trying to run the set and then do the rest of other material and it was one of the hardest sets we've ever had and we were just like why are we doing comedy should we have. We cannot leave this comedy store on this note so we went upstairs and they were doing comedians. You should know which was the show that you're on and Jane were so mad you didn't see it like how can I was like? I can't believe I'm watching both of you guys this down. I've never seen you both this upset. And then the thing that started to bring us out of it was. We watched your set and you made us laugh. We were dying in the up in the balcony off to the left and the belly room. We were laughing so hard. And we're like okay. Okay we're going to be we'RE GOING TO BE WE'RE GONNA be okay and then we went up and did our said and it was great but it was like all that was what we needed but my point is you hugh. I've I bombed in the belly room like three weeks ago. So intense way people were looking at me like I was a woman who had stumbled on stage and not just mouth agape like what is bitch talk and I had to talk about in therapy to my core. That's comedy if you're not if you're not if you're not staring into the abyss of your own career at least once every couple of months then I can't relate to. I can't relate to you as an artist I can't sort but I do. I have a cone. Inset that your listeners to go check out and then a tonight show sat for. I'm just a few months ago. Check that out so far. Let's get into some crickets. Shall we say yes all right so look the good news? I guess we still get stories of people. Being Dick's this is kind of from from back in September and Asaka man apparently for the Japanese Nippon League reserved and then canceled eighteen hundred and seventy three seats at two baseball games just to get more space for himself so he wanted to and this is in his words. He said he wanted to. I mean I wanted to watch the game comfortably with no people around. What are you free karate? Maybe maybe new okay or and I wanted to stand out on TV okay. So now. You're now you're dead out and it said that the the amount let's see if you can guess in in dollars like we're GONNA put little town into this in. Us dollar how much we're the canceled seats valued at and you can understand why then the team would be very angry that all of a sudden seats would never be used. Meghan in your estimation how much with eighteen thousand seats eighteen hundred hundred eight hundred eighteen hundred young. I guess I'm giving them a lot of credit. And if they've a fan base allow twenty thousand feet. I'M GONNA get in the US dollars. Oh God when a presidential candidate is like asked. How much a gallon of milk unlike forty eight dollars? I'M GONNA save fifty thousand dollars fifty thousand. That's smart I'm GonNa say one hundred thousand dollars. This is randy jumping a well. Get your answers if you're listening because the answer is what one hundred five thousand dollars been there and they're mad. You cannot do that. That is like the most selfish stupid. They need to be getting a credit card number. When like if I go to ticketmaster I can't just be like yeah. Forty friends are coming to be on say with me. It's like five forty tickets that's right. You're saying that the dog he bought he bought them on then. He canceled them all the day before so he gets the money back. Yeah you got all the guys kiss. I feel like I'm back on his side now. I like him to our. Now we're mad. At the Japanese. Ticketmaster Javanese ticketing system. Is THE PROBLEM HERE. I mean it is it A. He may have known about corona ahead of time. So let's give him credit if he is clairvoyant. In that way be. I don't think Japanese baseball has been this mad since Tom Selleck made that move. Okay so it's he also had the cash to pull it off. He he had to spend one hundred and five thousand dollars for his little fun game. These still went to sleep in a drawer every all right. Let's let's move on to this story WRESTLEMAINIA. I don't know if you've read about this decides to yeah no fans allowed will livestream from a training facility Does this seem smart or is this just another example of Vince McMahon being a psycho pat? I think the ladder because I mean the main concern and the reason you've seen this uptick in MBA players is because they're in such close proximity and there's sweat and spit and even though even though wrestling is orchestrated and scripted. You're still going to be like they could still get it from each other. They're going to be sashaying faces. I think there's there's sweat and spit and that's just between Charles Oakley and James still extolling gets corona virus. Yes it is does one do you know are are nice way of getting him out of the next and I think is that someone should pose as a record executive and tell James Dolan that his blues band like jd and the shots are so good that he's going to have to give up in the next and tour whole time and then Knicks fans if you did a kick start Knicks fans a quiet kicks and the Knicks Fans. Just all supported it to get him out. How great would that be incredible right and then we just do it in a nice way where he thinks he's too around. We're be like man. You're mazing an like touring in the most remote parts of the world like dude. You have a huge following in Guam. I also think that James Dolan could see what's happening in the world right now and go. I could be president and that he would have to sell the neck to pursue his political dreams. So Charles Oakley I mean. We've always said either that or six of the twelve security guards that stop Charles Oakley just decide to go on a smoke break and just let him go either. Let it happen again and you and your Pacers Fan so for you to want the Knicks to be good. You're saying if for the good of the game like you want it for the good of basketball I'm against abuse and what J. Zolin does is abuse so it's like completely fan best. He's abused you saw the video when he made the players via part of his God. That's that's worse than the Michael Vick dogfighting scandal. It's so bad I mean it's true plantation owner psycho shed it and have you heard dead insult to injury. They had to listen to his band. I- Latrell Sprewell was on a triangle. Like what has happened to me. It's like it's like I was. I was joking. He's literally choking. Pj CARLESIMO six months ago. Yeah it was choking. The wrong guy is what he said. Anybody got and put it in Wisconsin all right so let me let me get to this last story and then we'll wrap it up and move on and replacement but So Todd Gurley. It's talking about getting released from the rams rainy nine saying are running backs like supermodels. Like after they turned twenty eight. They become persona non grata. Like get him Outta here. Forget about like Todd Gurley was and still is an enormous part of the rams. Yeah sure and yes. He was hurt a little bit but come on man. The guy was a huge reason why you went to the Super Bowl and a huge reason. Why you as the rams say you because I know you're not part of the Rams Organization Megan but I'm saying why the Rams like this is an insane choice to to to drop this guy. What the Hell is going? They lost their goddamn minds is what I'm asking. I had a fantasy football team. Three years ago name girly girls trademark. I always loved him. I do think and I I remember like becoming aware of this in the Mike. Shanahan ears where it was like he would just plugged someone into that Bronco System and I guess you see it more and more I wonder if girlies issue is that he's not one of those like sake guys like they seem the stocky guys ten to hold up a little bit better but if I found out todd Gurley was coming to the colts I would. I would be pretty. I mean Frank Gore was still valuable last year and he's forty five years of course seventy five years mark. Ingram is a guy that kind of fits that mold. He's like a little grey frank. Frank Frank Gore fought in Korea. You need to know that nobody. He is a veteran. Give him the respect. He deserved to break does he? Yell does another team pick him up. Do you think somebody else. I think absolutely I think this is the time of year where you just buy a bunch of stuff and then you let it play out at training camp. I mean that's how I feel about Philip Rivers. I think Koby per second still beat Philip rivers out training camp. Yeah that's true. I mean you should treat running backs like toilet paper at Costco just by DOT com. And you'll use them at some point. Let's start with seven and you end the season with half of one right. Stop now you start with seven and you end. The season with a bad day. Date ran days the equivalent of an empty backfield. Okay your head. That's an exactly we'll see. We're not even using it anymore. We're being so efficient. Well Megan Kelly. You are the greatest your podcast with your husband's C. J. Tola Donahue. We have to get on this podcast. Maybe you can figure out some way to get to. Him is the greatest dodgers people. It's called the greatest everybody on this. If you're looking for another awesome podcast to check out especially in this time or they can keep putting these things out. Great Em. We'll have you back. You have an open invite. We Love Talking Sports with you in just love hanging with us the bad stuff. I hope fatherhood is going okay for you right now. I mean you know we're like yeah I've been thinking you've been in my acid fares thoughts and prayers. I'd Mag thank you so much. We'll talk to you soon. Okay thank God hi guys. Welcome to the show. That was amazing. Meghan gaily her hatred of Philip rivers to me is hilarious. I mean I mean to come may be their savior. She's a she's a hundred percent on top of Jacoby. She's like US I. It is so refreshing to hear someone else. Who is that psycho when they watch a game and avid like she has literal hatred in her heart? For Philip Rivers has never met the guy and again he may be great but she's probably right in her heart of hearts. She knows sport. She knows that team she will be. Let down like the rest of called fat by Philip Rivers. I mean I've been a fan of. I've always been a fan of her comedy. But now I'm like okay. We're kindred sports spirits which lead. Watch the colts. I WANNA watch a colts game with her and see how crazy I act and then I wanNA make her watch Michigan game with US and see see. How unbelievable crazy we are all right. Thank you guys for bearing with us in this show we're We got one more voice mail that we got from Bill Walton. We're taking advice from anywhere on how to make it through this quarantine life which gotta know how long my so called quarantine life. I don't know how long it's going to be. But we need advice from everybody and of course the big man in the Middle Bill Walled. Who spent a lot of time with his own thoughts Is going to give us a little bit of advice. Electives voicemail. Check it out sklar. It's your old friend. Bill Walton checking in making sure that you guys are taking good care of yourself. It's a difficult time people cooped up inside whether or not you're surrounded by those you love or surrounded by cans of corn beans and rice. 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Saying Yes to the Dress (w/ Megan Gailey)

Why Won't You Date Me?

56:47 min | 1 year ago

Saying Yes to the Dress (w/ Megan Gailey)

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Dave did you date to another episode of wounds. You date me the podcast for medical How I'm still single. Even though if you took me took me to a grocery store and left me there with no means to get home at this corona virus. I would still you. Oh boy my guest today. Is you see in her on Conan? You've seen her unladylike seen her at midnight. You've seen her on the tonight show. You've seen around the lights out with David Spade. Look it's negative. How I almost burst through my own wall. I love it. Just like the coolest man. Oh we had a little bit of what we did. I had a technical difficulty up top. It gave me time to make myself a tall glass of Sangria. Ooh What a treat. I have been starting drinking at like four. Pm Every Single Day. Yeah Yeah I one day I was one pm and then I was like that can't continue to happen so I have been trying to wait till like four or five. I will start smoking weed any any hour. Any our he okay. I. I don't even know what day this was because they're all fucking blending together. But I ate an edible at like noon and then at one I was like I'm hungry on. I started eating and then I kept eating and then by the florist trip to the kitchen within like two hours I was like oh I can't do this now night. Took a nap to stop eating But but then you wake up and you go. Oh okay. We're still in our house and then I was like well. I guess I better eat dinner because important nickel you need to stay healthy yes. I need to stay healthy so I have to keep eating yes. Exactly that's what we that's how we can help. But also I am going through wind like it's my job. Yeah Well on Saint Patrick's Day I go. I'm going to do with gay just to switch it up to honor the relatives and just 'cause the wine I've been drinking red wine. Ooh Don't usually do but I feel like I'm doing that. Because once they get to the white wine it's all I mean it's downhill from there. White wine goes down so easy. So Nice I drink. Joel SAUVIGNON BLANC. And I. I can drink three bottles and not have a hangover. I love it so good. I'm like I'm like experimenting with cocktails but I'm really just putting things like shouldn't be together together. I'm not making anything with mixing things that aren't aren't a good pair. Will I think I'm going to go to our liquor stores? Still Open. That's essential so I know we chops are still open. And then I've heard liquor stores are still open and that a lot of liquor stores are doing delivery right now. Okay because I think I'm going to get into like I liked Martini but do I have vermouth in my house. I don't think so. So if you only get into like being in artisanal cocktail maker I would. But that's the feeling pressure because everyone's like everyone needs to have a new hobby or skill and that can be yours. I have not found mine yet. You don't have a hobby or a skill yes you do. I don't have a new one. Yeah okay well. I've been doing yoga. This Nice White Lady tells me how to breathe and Tuck my pelvis and and keep my core into my belly button to spine. And that's been pretty interesting. I feel like my body's like doing better but you know what who knows. I haven't been out in the world and days. I think yoga would be a great. Yoga is definitely going to be on. The family. Feud Board of like top hobbies learned during the quarantine. That's funny because that is going to be a question on family feud not you are going to be. You are in good company. You know like heroin may also be up. There is for sure like knitting. Everyone I know is i. I made it to Joann fabrics right before they closed. It's like well good for you. That's very fucking funny. I think you'll find a hobby. Also I think so. You know what don't fucking. I'm hoping that we are not quarantine long enough to like actually excel in learn hobbies. I needed to like so many go fund me because like our government is bad. Yeah it's it's very frightening now to be like we are now crowdsourcing this country. Yes it's fucking nuts. My God Meghan. I always think of it like you know. There's this huge thing with athletes in. Lebron talks all the time. It's called shut up and dribble like they're always like these far right wing lunatics Just be an athlete. Shut the athletes. Actually THEY I. They better leaders than you are. Truly run says something. I'm like okay. Then it's happening Lebron as a whole fucking school yes? Lebron built a school in his hometown. Which is fucking bananas that our government can't it's exhausting to think about an. It's funny too because everyone in Ohio was so mad at him when he went to Miami and came back mad at him. But he's like I built you as who people burned his jerseys and then he's like with your children like to learn that's people are so fucking wild. It makes zero sense Meghan. So yeah you're recently married should. Wow what a what a really great time to be newlyweds. Did you get to go on your honeymoon before corona we did we went on our honeymoon right after you know like we're in a one thousand nine hundred fifty s movie so like after your weather you went on your honeymoon. We came back home for a day and then we went on our honeymoon. Yeah it's so fucking cute. Where'd you go? We went to. Ooh That's nice and then we were going to go to Italy in the fall. I don't think that's going to happen but but someday someday it will someday. It will someday. It'll be better. I truly was like I was in Italy in December. Did I get Corona Am? I fine? I'm hoping I have it that I already had. It already. Had it and I was one of those people that like. Nothing happened to and then you didn't pass a tiny body. What happens after you have it? Will someone was telling me. Then you're at the of course someone was telling me like I haven't read like an actual article as people keep telling me your immune after you're done with it. I don't know I heard you work but I also I have. I know people in my life that are texting me being. I'm immune I've been taking. I think we need to fact. Check Little Martin. It's it's so wild that like you can't just go to like you can't just like oh. I guess the CDC website or like the World Health Organization. I don't know who you're going to do so okay. So you're not going to Italy this fall now but yeah we got married in December. That's so cute and then he saw you before you got married at J. F. L. in you were like getting married a stressful. Yeah it is it for sure is an everyone warns you if that and there's definitely a spectrum but if no one no bride has ever been like no everything was great. Not One that that person doesn't exist. I don't think how was it to find your dress so like you said yes to the dress. Obviously how many dresses did you try on before you were like this? Mclean yet so we. We got engaged in my hometown of Indianapolis and then I of course got blackout drunk and puked in my parents. Why were your parents bed? Well not in my parents bed like in the bed. That's at my parents house. Okay so like I didn't Puke and they're just puked in a bed they own okay. So you've been there and then of course like eight. Am My mum's honey. Right to be pretty. I need us a ten ham dress appointment now but at least you were at your thinnest absolutely boy. People are going to hate that joke of apologize now for it. I'm sorry I will. That's exactly what I thought. Well it'd be time so we go. I try them on there and I just wasn't. I didn't like Click. It just didn't feel real yet. Felt really silly and so when I got back to La I went Maybe like a month later. I remember my mom came out and there were specific places that I wanted to go and I got very tired of it. Pretty quickly Like you know if a place didn't have champagne who was like why are we say? Listen I've been told their secret rooms. Like why am I sitting here? I probably went like four places and I tried my dress on when my mom was in town and then went and tried it on again. An brought different friends and just like really loved. It felt good in it and then I never had any like buyer's remorse like I wish I had gotten this one like I still really love it and happy war. Do you still have your dressers. You like donate a okay so I still have it but on the night of the wedding. I definitely left it next to the hot tub. Oh my God I fucking love. You like walked out of it. I mean lots of people not just my husband and I was fully nude in its banks in front of all of my friends and so my friend. Jackie had to go get it for me and now it is like crumpled o'clock and I need to get it like steamed in fixed or whatever but now for the foreseeable future. So it's just it's an inside of that now boy he can my face. The dress looks at for sure that Vera Wang instead not sign of a fund wedding. I love it love it how did. Cj PROPOSED TO U. C. J. On about two weeks before we got engaged told me my mom sent him a ring. That was too expensive. You know the classic way you get engaged uh-huh and then and then so we sort of we had like a a panic session about life and then two weeks later he had had the wheels sort of already in motion. We were in Indianapolis for Thanksgiving so I was with all my family. And then he took me downtown. Indianapolis in front of a mural of Reggie Miller who is the Pacers and the mural had just been completed and I had never been to it and Tj doesn't know Indianapolis so he didn't know that it's like right across from the prison so he like sort of half bent down but he has bad knees and kind of like. Oh my God I fucking love this I actually. I really hope. A prisoner was looking out the window. Being like what the fuck is happening. Absolutely it's one of those like county. Jails were the. They put their arms out thinking out. This is a fucking treat and then a photographer. He had hired a photographer because really sweet way he popped out of nowhere and I didn't know who he was. I was a fucker. You know you're carrying cash on hand now but I've never seen those photos of me yelling at him which I would love to and then went back to my parents house and CJ had flown in his whole family to meet my whole family and then we went to a restaurant. That's like across the street and my parents had like organized this fund dinner in the back room there. That's really that's so lovely. What a dream. I fucking love that it was really fun and Yeah. I just got so drunk in the next day. Was My parents fortieth wedding anniversary? Oh my God which is crazy. That is crazy. I like. Your mom was chilling. Wasn't like you're trying to steal my shine. No no no no no no my mom was like let me get in that shine with my God. That's adorable it's looking. We how do you in? Cj Date before you got engaged rebate at three years. Ooh That's a nice juicy. Long Time I think three years I feel three. We knew each other for eight years before we started dating. Oh yeah comedy. Yeah when Okay Su who asked who out in the beginning of your relationship. Okay so C. J. N. I. Since we were friends I think for a little bit. We were like tiptoeing towards that. But neither one of US knew how to initiate And I kind of like clicked for me right after the election which is like because right after the election. I was like I'm not going to have sex with a white man and for and like I did that. You know he's Filipino. So I really sucked to my word But Yeah I came back I was in Scottsdale Arizona days after the election doing shows which is through. Yes Oh yeah so I got back and then. Cj was visiting L. A. From New York and I'm like come over. We're watching football and drinking and smoking. So he came over and we hung out the whole day when he laughed. I thought we were GONNA make out and I was like fuck is happening. And we didn't and then I went back inside and like said to my roommate at the time I was. I think I like CJ and she was like you have not talked to anyone in our search and so then I went to New York the next week because I was sh shooting something out there and so he came over. I asked him if he wanted to come over one of the nights and I said bring weed and he came over at midnight and he stayed till four. Am and nothing happened. And I was very bombed and then he came and met me out of show two nights later and we're both like actively getting drunk in front of each other just to like get up the well to be able to do it And then we got really drunk and had sex. I Love a love story for the ages and I got I got so this is bat if anyone listening to this podcast. This girl help. I slept through my alarm the next morning and a bunch of people were looking for me. 'cause supposed to be on a scouting shoe oh my God so people were texting. Cj whereas Meghan you were the last person to see our live audience. Murdered me instead. I'm going to marry him. Yeah I didn't know it then I was like. Oh this is weird and then I and then I went back to La and then he kept coming to see me. I love it so you've lived in Chicago and New York in L. A. Yeah which place is easier for dating I think. La is the hardest And I think New York I I had a boyfriend the whole time I was in New York and I did think about cheating on him a lot so I feel like that felt like a good by their Chicago was amazing for dating though just because I was young there though and Chicago is such a drinking and social place But New York is to some extent too I just I think I think Chicago in some ways. I wonder if you think Chicago because you were younger and Chicago. I think New York is easier than La. 'cause I was younger New York. Yeah I just think of L. A. As the place where people come when they're established in a lot of that establishment is like everyone is in couples. Here it's so depressing. It's like it's not like. La People are like no on focusing on work in the grind. They're just already with someone Is Sort of the drawback care. Yeah I guess I have to move back to New York. No but you know when I first moved here. I was like newly single. God I hope. Cj can't hear this and I was such a slot when I hear place to be a slot wear and whispering like someone's listening to me. What where where did you go? How were you slutty? Teach me your way is I mean I guess I was just going to like comedy festivals with Comedians or agents. So the this is bad advice. Yeah I don't think I will Meghan. Thank you so much for that advice but I think I'm going to have to say a thank you because it's tough to find like the dream person in La is someone who gets what you do but then is also passionate about what they do. But it's like nothing like what you do. I think I fully agree and so for a lot of times I. I've always heard an isis say. Look I want to marry a chef like I'm going to be with a chef? I think we all thought that was cool. But it's like chefs are actually more narcissistic than we are and to narcissists together is tough fighting. Wait do you really think a chef is more narcissistic than an actor or do why do I do just because I think well I think they tend to drink and do drugs more than comics comics in La at least and actors are very vain and so they're very vain about what they look like and how they present themselves to the world. But I think of chefs is like I know have race day. Try Me you think I just know about butter fuck you. I am an encyclopedia of Bullshit. 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Mak- oh I've never even heard of that one. Yeah well at one point. I think it was the second largest women's organization behind the girl scouts of America. Damn but it sororities aren't every every school and then they're also like different everywhere. But I desperately always wanted a boyfriend. I always like in middle school. I hung up. I said hung out with a lot of older people but I mean like I mean like my parents friends. Hang out with my parents and their friends. They would always be like when you get to high school boys. They're gonNa love you and then I got to high school in. That didn't happen. And then they think my uncle was like you're going to be a heartbreaker wants that baby. Fat Melts off. And you get to high school and then the baby didn't melt off and nobody wanted to fucking date me. Yeah I think there is this thing where girls especially girls that are in like their adolescence. Where it's like if you if you seem outgoing then older people are like. Oh you're someone's GonNa like you know. People major terrified him. Yes I think so. They think I'm weird and loud. I recently had a dude. I went to middle school and maybe it was high school. Maybe it was just middle school. I don't know but I had a huge crush on him and he recently just deemed me on instagram. It was like do you remember me? Well I still proud of you and I was like do I answer this man back? Eight never gave me the time of day in school. Well and even him saying like do you remember me given that he never give you the time of day means he knows you remember how You know my thing with. It's like he probably knows you had a crush on him. And it was like do you. Remember. 'cause a grown man would never put their ego on the line like that for like a famous woman to be like no. I don't fucking know you. You're so simone. I'm so glad I didn't say anything. Yeah or you could say to him. I don't remember you I I go through all my. Gm's just answering this particular one to let you know fucking know who you are. You also age like a piece of bread with me on. It looks disgusting. Are there any people that have reached out to you from High School Middle School? That have been like rush on you. Not One person I honestly I mean what posted like old pictures of me from. I was not cute. I had terrible acne. I wear the word like my mom died when I was sixteen. And she didn't let me wear makeup but after she died. I was like guess. Who's going to the clinic counter and I don't have mom and I'm buying Blue Eyes Shadow so I would like just fucking garage door it on my lids like it just wasn't cute. I look bad. At all like my hair weaves were too good who looked good. I guess looking back. Nobody really did. But like yeah. Tons of people have partner or partners boyfriends or whatever girlfriend of course of course US? I always like it was. It made me feel so self conscious and so bad when I was younger to not have a boyfriend that I had to truly make it like. I'm smart like Bentley's things were funny. Yeah Yeah Boys are scared of me. Yeah ways are scared of me. They maybe were but it really. Yeah I really like cut me to my I would. I would hang out with my brother's girlfriend's alive and my brothers are for seven years older than me and so these girls were much older than me and most of my conversations with them with them. Be being like. You're going to be okay. It's going to be. That's so funny you're going to be fine chill out. Don't worry I've gotten a lot of. Dm's post wedding of people that I have not talked to in decades being like I'm really happy for you. I'm in the day. I finally get a boyfriend so many people are going to be like. I was rooting for you. It's not absolutely every time I date. I was going to be like. I don't think you understand. How many people want this to work? Not Me Yeah we have an audience. Yeah fucking audience. People are into it and will and so I was. I was like a big Ho from like eighteen on until I think that is people are happy when Aho gets married to. Yes because there's an iconic phrase that I believe Dr Drey says where he says you can't make a hoe a housewife but you are a exception to the rule. You Got Married yes I actually the right after. Cj proposed me. I took a picture of my engagement ring and tweeted. I guess you can make a hoe a housewife and I guess it was a slow news day the next day my hometown newspaper printed it in an online story. We Really Megan. That is fucking funny. What it's fucking treat. We got since we got engaged in front of that. Reggie Mural Lewin we put it on when you put it on when we put it on Instagram Reggie Miller commented and we read have chatted before commented. I blessed the which is not afraid but I must and so then the newspaper. Pick that up that like. Reggie blessings as culpable but as reference of US being engaged. They put my tweet where I called my self. Oh my God honestly your conic. That's legendary fucking love it. I feel like truly honored truly honor you should. That's honestly the funniest thing that could possibly happen to a comedian. Yeah it's so fucking fighting. Here's a question how they never asked anybody this. How did you decide who's going to be your best honor knowing what fuck maid of honor? Oh my God maid of honor. I've been a maid of honor and I cannot believe I forgot what that was. How did you choose your maid of honor so I have two best friends from growing up like known them my whole life and one is married and one is not and so that slotted really nicely into made in Matron of honor? Oh Yeah. What's a made? A major honours like unmarried friend American. For Yeah I know it's really sad. I mean like we didn't do programs. You know but people are definitely like listed as a matron people around yet because for a while I was like maybe I'll just have my mom and everyone was like you're not a loser. You fucking have friends. Don't let your mom your fucking Megan of honor come on you. Have Friends people will be freaked out for your dresses? Did you make them choose like different dresses or was it one dress that everyone had to wear no? I told them honestly they could get anything they wanted. As long as long as it was like somewhere in the shades of pink. I like that. I like people showing off their personalities. Real cute I don't like Matthew match dress rates. One of my girl like my maid of honor. She were jump Sue Liza traeger. She was a bridesmaid. She wore like a little like skimpy shorts. Sequined number They could really do whatever they want. And why everyone looks so beautiful. I love that I thought cute but one of my matron of honor. She took her dress in to be altered now. This is a dress she has picked. And the alterations woman goes. Wow I guess the bride really hates you. Good that is. I want to see a picture of the stress. I'll send you. I mean when I went in for my first alteration and like when you're getting married you're you're keeping it pretty tight you're definitely trying and there was one part of my body. My Lake lower stomach that I was feeling very very self conscious about because of the trip address I had and the alterations woman walked around patted. My stomach right right felt bad and goes. You've got time if you WANNA do something. Oh my God that is so wild. I didn't realize that happened to thin. People yeah like so my mom and Liza. We're with me. And I like look my head of course snaps up and I catched both of their eyes. Which both of their heads snapped up and the three of us are just making a Bermuda triangle of like. What are we GONNA need us? All feel so uncomfortable that we no one said anything and then afterwards leases like I should have said something. My Mom's like no. I should have said something like everybody was so and I'm like I think it's listen. She was telling me some hard true and I did have some time and I did fix it. Well there you go I guess. Sometimes you just need someone to to let you know. What's Oh. That's so awful. Did you in front of People. It really it. Like it's shook may for sure and then whenever I would tell someone like Liza told everybody and whenever I would tell someone they'd be like what was she thin. It's like no of course not no. She's in the bridal dress business but also they're not GonNa let Stick Thin Women Do Alterations Waco's that's a fucking black Mir episode. But also what a perfect way to get more business you do your fitting and then you go. You have time to fix it and then you have to do another like alteration on it. Yeah yeah well they start the. There's all these crazy things. They measure you every time you go in and if you have gained or lost like too much then you're like charged extra weight really. I think because it's like within two I don't know how much did it two inches. That seems like a lot within something they're like. Yeah that's like typical Labor that we would have to use but if you lose too much and then they're having to work extra Then they're like that costs more. Oh that's so. Wild to be penalized for losing weight. I know or gaming weight but I guess that's the actual world we live in but now I mean now I've just been married and I'm locked in my house for months wits. Like who knows what all honestly. I can't wait to see everybody out of quarantine because I I like you're going to see your friends the first time in like a month or two and you're going to have to like not have a neutral face right for some friends who've either lost weight or gained weight not that like you should be judging their bodies but like that's just a natural human reaction to Jesus Christ you look different but we're going to have to be very neutral and be like it's good to see you. You look the same you look alive. You look like you've been thriving we're GONNA you've been thriving in in quarantine maybe you've been thriving just a little too hard but that's okay. Don't worry we didn't really bad at telling when people gain weight. I'm really good telling people lose weight or got a haircut. I had a friend who had gained. I guess like forty pounds Every time I saw her I was like you look so good like she carried it really well. Her curbs like filled out and she looked. Okay like juicy and voluptuous. I like put my finger on it and then she finally gained forty pounds and I was like oh I like I love. I was like I maintain the compliment. I like issues like okay. I'm just a little self conscious about keep talking about it and I was like. I'm really sorry I couldn't. She looked amazing. Yeah I had a friend once who gained like around the same maybe forty fifty and I had. I had been away with this person. Let's just say that. When I came back everyone was like what happened. And what are you talking about? And they're like that is a very different person and I had no idea I had i. Just I thought too great I think we're just really good friends. Maybe you see someone often enough. It's hard to vary. That's that's why this quarantine is going to be interesting. Because there's people were who who's in your like crew who is in year like quarantine crew. Ashir her man. My Roommate John Millhauser John Mill has my roommate his boycott and Jackson. And that's truly who I've seen in person in the last like five days. Who's in your quarantine grew. My crew is my husband's Cj and then Cara Clang love care. I really miss her. I I mean I get to see where going on walks in and I'm seeing Rosie. Her baby that's who I want to see. I know it's really hard because you can't touch the babies right now. And so the baby I mean Rosie. Maybe it wasn't even. I think she half reached for me. I was like she can't be without on but she you know she was like a dirty leaf. She wanted to put her mouth So I'm seeing Care Rosie. I saw cares husband. Jared and then we have two other friends. But we're not seeing them right now. We saw them at the beginning. And so we're going to then wait a full two weeks and hopefully that's what I'm doing with some other people. Yeah so really. My crew right now is just my husband. If it's really I just there are people that I'm thinking about like there. Were definitely people the night before this like went to lock down mode that we're like I want a divorce and now they're just together well. Apparently there's someone we all. Maybe we don't know a friend of our. I saw someone tweet about this customer tweet about that and I was like yeah who as it is one of our friends yes and then. I also tweeted that. I also tweeted that. I have a friend who was about to have sex with a celebrity and now that can't happen and I will be glad to tell you that off air who I cannot fucking wait. I mean and it's like a fun. It's like a feel good one. This is so this is just really rooting things. Its own very inconvenient. I can't say that enough. This global damage is inconvenient for me to like you. Are you see John and his friend everyday? Yes that's a good crew. It is nice. Do you do apps so yes. I'm on the APPS thing about the APPS right now is like I feel like everyone's kind of on hold on the APPs because it's like what are we gonNA do. We're GONNA talk for what two months a month. I don't know how long this is. GonNa last so I was talking to this one guy who honestly seemed a little gay in his pictures but I was gonNA give him a chance of in corona hit and I was like you know what I don't have time. Well actually. I have all the time in the world but like you don't want to have sex with hanger. I'm not trying to do that and I was like. I don't think I care about what his voice sounds like like. I'm not dead. I was just talking to him because I was like kind of bored. But like even though I'm more board I'm like that lasts interested in the person who bore well and there's I feel like on the APPs. There's people that like only like talk for a long time. Yes and it's like well you. You should not be rewarded right now. Those are the freak. Those are the freaks but those are the freaks. That's like another reason why I'm just not answering anybody right now. Because I'm like what I do is I'll talk to someone. I give them like a week. If you don't ask me out within a week I am Machu or I put you one hundred percent like unhinge. You can like hide people or whatever so. I'll hide them. They haven't asked me out or whatever like move on but I'm like now I don't you can't ask me out. We'RE GONNA GO. Ray Walk six feet apart on a walk. That's insane. I could never now are you. You're on riot. I'm hoping well it took me two years to get on riot. I'm there you are like you are like you know Nicole. You are probably the most famous person I know to children. You should be riots thumb now they would be lucky to have you thank you. It took a very long time. And then also it's truly filled with like Australian deejays like models it's realistic place to like actually go on a date with somebody and I've said it on the podcast already. I went out with someone who then asked me to read their script. No no no no no no no. I mean I've definitely gone out with people in La who have then asked me if they could open for me is and I had. I had to break the news to them of like. I don't sell enough tickets to get to dictate you are. You are barking up the wrong tree wrong. We have you been touring a lot. I have into I really I. I was gearing up for some does link the summer and fall. I was going to be but I have been were. I was writing a show and then I started working on a show and so it was mostly here. Oh I didn't know you're working on a show. I haven't seen you trillion such a long time. I knew but you. You've I feel like I see you enough like social media for me to think that I'm seeing you but then when I when you asked me to do this I was like. I don't think I've talked to Nicole since I was since we got married for your I think the last time we saw each other was fell l. Which was last summer. Yeah yes and it's also like that because for a while we used to see each other every single day baby if you WanNa see that you can watch. Mtv's ladylike which I don't know is it. Is it available anywhere in these times? Make it available for the people. They WANNA see this. The the the script flipped on man. That shoe was wild. Sometimes I forget I was on that show. That happened to you like I owned. We'll be talking about a prank show. I'm like wow prank shows and then I go oh my God. I was on a prank show. Sometimes that happens people say Prank. Show and I'm like I would never. Oh actually I did too lutely did you Blair. We're so good at just like going out and doing it and I'd be like I don't want this for myself Nicole. We were poor nothing we had to. We needed to go and knock on people's foreheads. Knock knock me. We were peasants. We knock people's heads. I mean we were doing. I like member. I remember once like being dressed crazy outside of like one of the most beautiful restaurants in New York. And you're just like Oh my God. My parents love to me like how did I let this? Yeah I did one. I had to drop a box of tampons and I could only ask men to help me pick it up and I was like what are we doing? What are we doing well? I do remember when there were. I mean this is. This is a bummer of a story. But I remember when the French When the terror attacks happened in Paris and I don't know if you were with us at the time but there were a group of us that were in Times Square and we were taking Mardi gras beads basically like rowing them at men as the ticker behind was like terrace shuts down shuts down. And we're just like in Times Square like let's antagonize some people. Oh I was there I was like. I don't think it's appropriate to do this now. This is crazy and they were like you're still doing it. I remember I was wearing a big purple code. I look like yes. Yes yes yes. Yes yes it was you me Blair and Jade Predator soup. I think yeah I think it was the four of us. It was one more. I don't know it was asleep driving around in a big van playing playing pranks on men. It was really. It was a truly wild time but I do. I did love and like so to to the people listening. Don't work in Hollywood when you're on a show you there's food set up for you but unladylike they would shut down restaurants and I loved that Louis. I thought that was so fun. That was very fun because then you just like being arrested and being like I'm here at be here and I would order to things like I was like I'm making so little money that I'm going to order and take home. Oh absolutely if someone else is paying for a meal you get to. I mean unless you're on a date and then that's route well it's like and I'm I'm sure this happens to you in like pseudo business meal. Sometimes you go into it and you're like maybe this is like Split see or I'm paying and then at the very end they pay and you're like I would have ordered more. Here's what I do whenever I go out on a business dinner. I picked the most expensive restaurant I can think of and then I doubt because I know they're paying it's the company in the ASS. I'm technically biting. I'm technically that's like my manager. My agent 'cause like I gave you commission on those jobs so like let's go on my expensive dinner and you pay for it. You know when I do you hit presence from your age. No don't get presents but I do. Well sometimes I'll get flowers when I get a job. It's very nice but I buy them Christmas presents. I buy them bottles of water with my face on it. I love that and you just give them like the variation of liquor that they like. Nope everyone gives percents though nobody gets to be choosy. And if you drink don't open it when we engage. We got a bunch of presence like there were I got. I got champagne. I got really nice champagne from networks. Like thank you. I didn't even know you cared about me. And then when we got the leary when we got married that they were GonNa like what I feel like getting married is harder. The comedy central. I believe sent me a kitchen aid but they but they didn't. There was no card but I think it was from them. That's so nice one time. Netflix sent me a cake with no card. And I put a instagram story up of me. If you WANNA kill me just leave some cake at my door because I ate it without knowing and then finally somebody from Netflix was like we saw your instagram story. It's from us it's only been done. I don't worry about me. Do you think this is relatable quarantine? Contests are talking about. Where do they come from? We don't know we're gonNA take the they just appear and that's how corona started Meghan. We've come to the end and this is a question that I asked most of my guest usually forget. But would you take me Nicole? I would totally date you. One hundred percent we have been through Phnom together which has remained. Shows you to be one of the funniest most delightful people whenever your name comes up? I get butterflies. Isn't that what love is about? That is what what love is all about. Megan thank you. I would love to date you. I appreciate it well. Congratulations on your wedding. Also from instagram I was creeping. You truly looked beautiful in your address you so much. It was a real treat. Well I have no new content so I feel like it's going to be more wedding photos. Posted just gonNA post them all. Honestly I feel like short anyone can get married but not very. Many people can look beautiful while they're getting married so keep posting the fucking contact. 'cause I'll keep double tapping thank you. I totally appreciate it in a call and also. I know that my red lip are that I posted on. Twitter was disturbing to you. Made me laugh so hard and I couldn't believe you were out in public with Rudler. I went to the symphony at a place where people are like. No if you look crazy okay. I know. This is an audio medium but like Meghan didn't use any sort of liner now and it truly look like you put it on during an earthquake like they're straight or like is it still on your twitter itself absolutely still on my twitter. And I'm GonNa like I think maybe that's going to be my quarantine hobbies that I am. I read lips together. We'll you gotTA use okay. What brand was it? It was so it was free off of the settlement Paul's drag race so it was honest us but that should have been fined so for you. I think you need a liner so it doesn't bleed. Yeah and then once. You do the liner. It's easier to like follow the liner around. Your Lips. I okay when this episode posts. I'M GONNA post the picture I had so many people reach. Reach out to me and be like are you okay and like I thought it looked fine like I thought it looked really good and then we were in a car and I go. Let me check yet and then. I took a picture and then. Cj Goes Oh no the pictures weird to me too and then he just made a blurry photo and I know my lips are Fox up. That's Love Ya. That is so sweet to know. It's bad for everybody. Just bad lighting Meghan. Do you have anything you want to promote before we get? Outta here so I have an album out. That's called my dad paid for this and pretty recent so I would love if people listen to that and then I actually have a sports podcast with my husband called the greatest. So if you like sports even if you don't like sports care clank one said that it feels like sports gossip. I love to that like I like. We definitely talk. Shit people get mad at us all the time for our opinions like it's just a fun. It's a fun show. We I mean the next one coming out. It's going to be about like greatest dresser of all time so it's not fully XS and Os. I love that also. I have something to remember. I wrote a book. It's called Hashtag very fed hashtag very brave. The fact girls guide to being brave and not a melancholy down in the dumps weeping fat girl in a Bikini and it's on pre order now in the links abaya or go to Nicole by was taken dot com also have another podcast called newcomers with Oren Laugh. Gas We're watching star wars for the first time and if you send me something nasty to my email which is bacon can save at G. L. Dot Com Bacon the food not baking. If you say something nasty hitting on me I will read it. This says breakfast for one Nicole. I would lay you down on my breakfast bar and gently remove your wig. Put it in the. I would clip your fingers and toenails saying this little piggy for each one you. And then I would add the clippings to the blender then I look for wrottesley finger being new until you came into my cupped hands you ask. The blender blend honorific. I would blend up the concoction important to Martini. Glass in look you in the eye as you laid on my breakfast bar and gulp down every last drop okay by. That took a turn that I didn't see coming. I think that's the one that was like I'm trying to get read on this podcast. I'm GonNa talk about blending her wagon my calm and it worked. Here's another one Nicole. I want to take unnecessary long hair in rapid around you like an Anaconda and squeeze year till you come so hard you call yourself Nikki. That ones that was nice. I like that one I do I too but that other one. That was pretty awful. And it's like what are they doing during quarantine you know. How are they holding up? I wonder I guess they're just sending weird e mails. I have yeah I guess now I feel left out. I don't have any no weird. Emails have been sent to me. No time there's time you gotta you gotta put your your your email address out to the Worl. I cannot do that. Can just put it right out there to the world people's all sorts of terrible things. Yeah I I would like to promote my wicky feet. I feel like my rating is lower than it should be. They can kill these wicky. Deeply stars have great feat looking stars. Also while you're there please give me five stars. I haven't checked it in a while when I first looked I had. I think it was bad feet and then I had okay and it might be stuck at. Okay get get Nicole backup fab. Yeah give me some feet. All right mega. Thank you so much for joining us. Your Goddamn Dream I love you. You're the best you made my day so much. Better okay bye. That was a hate bound podcast.

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Solomon Georgio

Couples Therapy

1:09:49 hr | 2 months ago

Solomon Georgio

"Open your hearts and loosen your booty hoes. It's time for couples therapy. Yeah this is where they can hang with talk at exit vacationing with brunches and cousin linked to messy situations. Conscious uncoupling from netflix. To stable the whistle mulu tech sex regret solve illinois new. Jubal you eating therapy baby weekday you heard one and welcome the couples therapy. My name is andy. I m naomi. we are real life couple. Couple of comedians and odd couples therapy in twenty twenty one. Twenty twenty one. We answer a couple different questions from a couple different listeners. Now me my what's up. I mean we're coming to them humbled injured. I just had our first physical examinations with a medical professional boy for the first time since at least twenty nineteen early thousand nineteen good high. Cholesterol needs a follow up appointment to tackle the rest of her issues. So we are really you know it's time to make a change. It's so funny. So i got my lab results just as some candy naomi some some vegan. Gumy's naomi arrived. I'm just like looking at them into looking at my test. Results will commit that look. I'll tell you what though the cholesterol is. Not that apple. I don't know what the metric is. Something's or whatever like a handful over the top end of five over the top end something like that. I think one of them was not know. I need you to live forever. Yeah okay. I'm always supposed to be the first to go think i'll be honest. It's a genetic thing. I eat a lot of fruits and vegetables. I agree you really are eating cheese. The way you used to know. And you're vegetarians. Are think it's just gonna be safe. Yeah yeah. I think it's genetic because my grandfather died of a heart attack. Wow okay the another beckerman illness. Beckerman bloodline is v. delicate. I don't know what would possibly give him a heart attack. I don't know was like fighting in world war shoe on normandy you. I'm sure that didn't damage him. That's give him high blood pressure. That was just a bruce workout. Yeah i've seen saving private ryan. That seemed like nothing. That was joe. Chilin fund it was the time to get together with your buds. Yep grandpa beckerman. Nothing nothing really. Ib immigrating from europe to escape pogroms. Was it do what could possibly give it. You stress stress xactly. Jeez louise. But i didn't look i went into the doctor with with a dang doomsday. Scroll i said. I have a lot to discuss. I've made a lot of mistakes and literally. She was like okay. We don't have time for all of this. I'm gonna need you to follow up. And so in the interim what. I imagined him. It was someone with like one of those long trump anything's may and then you unroll. The scroll before i got in the the problems. The scrolled is rolls down the like almost like a red carpet of red carpet of illness. I stood in the hallway. Yeah i said in the hallway and she just kinda read it. And i just said any thoughts that you read you hang at the truth. She really did. She was like. I want you to live. It was like wow what a medical professional looks you in the eye and says i want you to live. It says come with me if you live in like all right all right. It's time they my dearest. My love my sweet betrothed for the rest of our lives may be longer than the doctor tells me they will be. Who's our guest on today's episode. Oh this is a fun. Would we are talking to the hilariously. Wonderful solomon giorgio. Hell yes yano solomon. You've got to ask somebody solomon stand up using him onto queens kenny. Solomon a writer he's written for shrill high-fidelity so many others salom is a gift to us. He also co hosts. The new los angeles live show called the old days at spoke bicycle. Cafe and that is a monthly show. The may show will be coming up. Soon follow solomon together dietz. You'll be on that one right. I believe i will eat for show in the world. So huge. If you live in los angeles and naomi has not done stand up live in over a year and you wanna see ya what happens coming out yet. It's also outdoors outdoor so even though says cafe outdoor space so you'll be masked and safe or not. Hey the cdc says you don't have to as long as it's not a lot of people around honey. It's going to be back. Well there's literally triple masks basco your eyes your ears and over your mouth before we get. Solomon you guys a couple of things. I had to tell you about solomon show already told you also also also you know you girls hosting a second podcast. Now it's called. I love a lifetime movie and yes it involves watching lifetime movies and recapping them. I hosted with the hilarious. Megan gailey who you may have heard on this show before and we're just having a good time. These movies are kuku bananas. If you are interested you can listen us discuss such movies as sleep. Walking in suburbia about woman was sick. Omnia pool boy nightmare which is about a murder she smelled. You can hold. Liz at one on dodge gonna say like going to let you say let them figure out whether it was really fake because honestly could be. I'm you can also talk to how. I met your murderer which is about a podcast or in the clutches of a murderer. I mean there's so much to do so if you're interested in just look up. I love a lifetime. Movie. it's a good time episodes. Drop every thursday. So you know couples therapy on tuesdays. I love a lifetime movie thursdays. We got a good week ahead. And no matter where you are whether you are in tibet or berlin tonight at we're doing another live streaming show who couples therapy quarantine party colon. Chemotherapy maybelline party now. If you follow the saga you know mabel. Just had a mastectomy and got the all-clear no cancer in the breast tissue removed. But because she has had three tumors prior to that she is undergoing chemotherapy so we are doing a live streaming show with guests just like we did for the one year anniversary at typewriter dot com on may twenty second at six. Pm will have guests will have fun. If you'd like to send an vice question you can do it. Make video no more than two minutes while. Yep yep you don't have to be in it you can film your dog while you ask the yup advice question you can someone. Last time very enterprisingly. I will say paid for sam. Taggart friend of the show friend in real life to do a cameo asking the question on their behalf. A question on behalf. That was beautiful. So there's so many ways you can do this and send that video to couples therapy pilot g mail dot com and then watched the show on the twenty. Second get tickets. They're only like five bucks. Yeah five or ten whatever you wanna do albro helping mabel thank you. Proceeds go to medellin. So who sleeping right now. you know. She doesn't even know no she sick. And that's beautiful. She is powerful. She is hopeful. She is energetic. And we should all be a little bit of maple lane. I mean look. I don't want to be irreligious. You could say. She is a goddess. Oh absolutely absolutely and he has caught me calling her my true love and obviously like are you talking to the dog and i guess i am. I think it might be time to get to the wonderful. The brilliant solomon giorgio love of my life. Jk jk. i think i'm gonna say rollet now. Can i tell solomon about how he's a safer. What's a cipher. is that like a. It's one of the men he can he can. He's the one that translates yes. That's right which would be deciphered. But it's just called cipher by right exactly superpower naomi. What do you mean to me. Cypher is like a thing in codes. But for what do you mean by cypher. I can't quite pin him down. What's going on under the surface of solid back. You know what. I mean because he projects he projects glamour poise grace the highest confidences but. He's also a comedian. So i know so. That's not true. I think you're out what's well between the hours of seven. Am to six pm. I should upon myself okay. Then between the hours of six to five am. I you could. You can't tell me nothing you can tell me anything at all dare you. Yes you're self aware wolf. Not he's good. I'll allow it. i'll allow it in the evenings. You come alive but essentially what it is. Is that whenever. I am down my way of lifting my spirits up a series of condescending condescending self affirmations so by the end of the day i do feel like the most powerful bitch alive. Okay beautiful okay. So it is you work on it from the top of the day to sundown. Maybe i should try that. Because i've just been sleeping. Yes and you should leave but you can also do it in your sleep. I i i. I even pose while i'm sleeping. Cool no you know. We're going to be answering relationship questions though i so we like to. You know find out. Our guests like kind of what their views on relationships. What's your entire history. What i've been saying lately guest is. We're going to start the very beginning. Yes you i. B f all the way to the last or current okay granted. There's only one so it's not going to be very long. Wait is that you don't have time for these hoes like hot like you. Don't i imagine that. Not a lotta dudes. Tickle your fancy. Absolutely no a lotta. Do tickle my fancy. I tend to the more. I think the more emotionally unavailable. Somebody has the more attracted i to them. And that is an issue because when somebody is one somebody's nice to me and attracted me. I'm like what the fuck is wrong with. You wait wait. Oh it's probably because i'm broken. But no i know there's just i definitely dating is something that takes up so much time and i'm very like i don't i don't suffer fools and there are a lot of fools yes yeah. That's why i'm like even though you've never been anything but nice to me. I'm scared interacting with you because i know you do not suffer fools lightly and ninety percent foolish. That's true. it's. I think you think you're foolish but i have to. You have to understand. There are real fools out there and you. You're not one of them neither of you. I think that's i think that is sort of a double edged sword of my personality. Is that people who aren't fools are afraid that they're fools and are too afraid of me because i guess it's true actual falls or not afraid to be foolish. They have no idea right up to me every time now. How long did you have. You lived in la. Have you been a creature of the dark dark town. Gosh it's been a decade this year. It'll be ten years in october. So yeah it's been a long time now. Do you feel like because we're around the same age like what your style is like. This is the most i've ever seen. You be like just like katie. Cork like like a real like a question about this. Really jiminy glick. Now when you're dealing with a celebrity you have to speak to the show win you bring the ground damon you have to have to bring in your interview skills. Solvency me at my absolute worst game. Show so i have no i have no. I could not have eaten more shit. I you may have left before we did. The went had to run to a flight. Which i said was our booth yes. I wasn't a flight but to do the show at other words. Oh i gotta go you like. I thought it was going to be as long as it was. I thought it was going to be like most shows which is like an hour. And i've seen bishop for sure but i think oh what's running late. I'm like oh. I probably should've i also just mismanaged my time. It's really it was. It was me along lines going. I've got fly tonight. I got a flight this evening. Then i still said yesterday. So you've seen me totally chit. So i have no more shame anymore in this interaction or any of our future interactions. I don't think there was anything you to be ashamed of. I know if it was my entire existence to be. I assure you he runs on shame. I i understand but you have to to. You're competing with what what other game in of scene of straight men and it is a very. The bar is so low. You don't you don't have you. Don't have the takes takes you have to you have to actually put the work in to go under the bar. That's good and my limbo skills are not very good so nambi. sorry. I interrupted here. Go ahead you know half asleep so trying to do the opposite of what brain wants to do wants to do is go solomon go questions. But there's gotta be you ask them question. We got company l. Seventy so you've only had one boyfriend but You hooked up often. Yes i've i've said sex many times from from the times you've been on the show. Casey talked about tonight. Wild knights in los angeles and surrounding areas. I've done those wild knights and i'll do them again. What like like casual sex is always been very. I don't like all the like chitchat. And it's not like. I have like a large rolodex of casual sex partners. But like it's just like there's too much of the getting to know you stuff. It's what what about that appealed to you versions. I barely know any of their first names. That kind of chit chat. Do you think i'm having over here. What kind of discussions like. I don't know their names. First or last fair okay. I'm sure i heard at one point in the evening. But there's no there's no retaining information it's like it's like being an elevator. Somebody asking you to talk about the weather. You're not gonna hold any information be. Was that dick bat. And then you see where that dick sat and then you just go on with your life now to my question because i was kind of wondering you know we're we're around the same age where like i guess what i'm asking is sort of. When did you sort of come into your own as like a dating and stuff. I guess i would say like. I didn't really date you know. I dated like after college. You know what i mean and then like kinda did like a little bit of that but didn't really know what i mean like it was. It was a little late to the game. Someone uh well for me. Because i was just so socially awkward When i first came out. And i'm like a lot of my confidence that i have now is definitely through. Stand up because i definitely was very very afraid of talking to people And so i think for me. It was just yeah just dating wise. It's probably was like a few years into my career so like like thirty thirty in my when i turned thirty. Plus that's what i like. And then i'm i was out. I'm still have some apprehensions. I still am intimidated on in one on one conversations but case it's just i'm definitely i'm definitely i definitely move with more certainty now than i used to. Yeah that's wild to me thirty plus because you're a tall beautiful black man. They were throwing dixie. You know they weren't decade really. Oh also. I think that would probably translate very well if i was probably heterosexual but i don't think It didn't it didn't translate it's well i also don't don't like being criticized i'd be like i can definitely you can feel that energy for people and i definitely especially don't like it when people sue might be aggressive in bed baby. I'm lazy as fuck. You're going to get you're gonna get what you get. I don't wanna talk to you. I don't wanna talk. Sounds like this is a performance. You celebrate. I'm also lazy and i'm not afraid to admit it i like i feel like especially now more and more people are like. Yeah more so happy. I definitely love. The people are expressing themselves sexually. But i'm like hey there's still some of us that are like no fanfare. I call it sex negative. I'm staying neutral. That's exactly what it is. All these young sex positive kids out here. And i said how to lay down and you could join me or not. I'm not gonna choke anybody. I am not joking. Nobody grab things i'm like. Let's just laid. We're laying down. Why are we in ruining laying down like what was that. There was like a moment. There was like a moment of like a year or two. We're like everyone was like choking everyone here. I think it's been awhile of. I think i think choking choking has been a discussion in the year and it's one of those things where i'm like. I'm so supportive of anyone. Who's into it but i just don't expect anything of me. Sure you'll get like a salt like head tap or oh good low word if you want like a shoulder i can do like a like the light pressure circular rub on the back. But like i think it's because something like that like choking sub would it would i. I would just be afraid to do it. Like i've never so i wouldn't know my own strength. It's the way i feel about pegging. I've afraid to peg. Because i i wouldn't know my own strength. It's an additional stress. I don't want sex to be stressful. That's the point of sex is. I don't want to stress in it. And that's and that's a big relief of stress so that makes sense to them but for me it's like this is we're not. I'm not coming today. I'll tell you that you making me do yourself. I'm not coming right. let's by the way sex. Negative insects neutral isn't about a quote unquote yukking someone else's yum. Say you do your thing. Right lay down lay down. This is not even. it's. I'm being tender. I think that's the thing is i like being. I like being tender in bed. I that's my preference is tenderness because the world is harsh. I i give my ass be from more than two nights. Can i get some tenderness. Efi we all i ask. Can we say we're tender positive. Then we're tender box. Tenderness positive asked to be the next movement. Yeah tenor arroni's tender onis. We are taking their own movement so wait. How long did you have a boyfriend for then about a year and a half. He was a very like his first relationship for the both of us. Not ill timing. And how we dealt with things terrible communicating and obviously. He didn't appreciate me as much as he showed of. The greatest bitch alive truth is just one is yeah just. It didn't work out for in for numerous reasons. But mostly because i just i don't wanna do this. No more right right. Is there also like a kind of like you. Seem like a pretty like focused ambitious person to when it comes to both stand up and writing and and and also you were saying you were like dating is a lot of work. I noticed that right out the gate. You were like it's work. That's that's not somebody who's trying to have a plus one hanging on. I wouldn't mind it at all. I need. I need somebody who just kind of has everything in line with themselves. I don't even like it doesn't matter what money wise. I don't give shit about his matter. Career wise or just sort of just seventy who just doesn't need me making decisions for them. That's like somebody who can who just can take the an active role And because i'm i'm i am ambitious person. I am and so somebody has to be of equal ambition. I don't give a shit that admission is just you have to be alive. You have to be like and it's and it should be at night. Because i find that mission to relationships as well because i definitely don't think of being relationship something i don't i don't take it lightly so that's why i don't do it. Yes a So you don't care if they wanna be like the number one welder. No i long as they want to be the number one what they as long as they doing it on their own or guards and there's a way for us to 'cause i like coexisting i like making i like making things i like. I love collaborations I just don't like it when it's like it's like i don't want to be in the same thing as me. I don't wanna. I don't think i and that very smart hold onto that. Okay no matter how much she loves them. We always ambitious or is that just something. That's kind of like you ve been infected by. No i was always. I was always a dream. I always would think and i think for me. I always liked to do the work. Towards the things that i fantasize about. I just never have any intention of them becoming real like through status. Like oh. I could do this thing that i really liked doing. And i can fantasize about where it can take me. And then i'm like i'm getting paid for this now. Oh where to put me on tv. Oh i'm going to write for television. i didn't. I did all the work. But i didn't expect this getting a paycheck for something is always surprised. Got one in the mail. Oh jeez yeah. I thought i thought it was just having fun. But yes not imposter syndrome. 'cause i don't think it's that i think it's more along the lines of i feel like i got away with a scam. Yeah and i'm gonna. And i love scam. So i'm gonna keep scamming writers guild feel like a day of scam like when i look at the paycheck for a week of writing. I'm like fucking idiots. Especially i just a week where he just pitching in the room like all i did was talk this week. Like dovish always that feeling but was moved to l. a. Moved here wanting to do the thing. Do you know why you want wanted to be here. I was like the will also like the things were happening in my career. That kind of i wouldn't. I wouldn't have done the move unless i was like. Oh there's some potential stuff happening. It took five years for that potential sub to kick in and pay money. But that's essentially what it did. But yeah i was always. I was always in bishops. I always think like and it's just. Yeah just yeah. I didn't expect anything. But i still work towards it and i think that's a good like mentality to have is to all just not working towards something. It's kind of just like boring like wow. I truly feel attacked. I certainly do not work towards things. And i know i will have will. Also i consider fantasizing working towards something. Okay well that's day-dreaming as part of working towards your s to the side What's that thing with. The secret fasting. Okay yeah yeah okay there. You could say secret but i love i love. I love when people like manifested. This and you're like you did everything to reach that goal. I don't know what you think. Manifesting means but you did everything you work towards it and therefore it happened. So i don't know if that's manifesting. That's because that's not magic. My dad is a famous producer. He helped me manifest. Oh god i manifest and my first feature film added manifestation visualization. That's i have a theory that when someone's in this town says they manifested something. They just don't want to tell you that they're like their uncle is the head of mgm. Manifesting is code for. I am connected idaho. Get idaho that america has a hookup and like especially if you're young you're white and you don't seem that bright walking. How do you pay your bills right. Like i've never heard you mentioned a job. You don't seem to go anywhere during the day. And yet you have an apartment you have a hookup. You have a hookup. There's no way in there too. Many people having secret hookups. Which i feel like. I didn't find out until more friends of our started to have kids because i was like you booked one commercial two years ago tiled monday. Oh you got parents. Got some money in that avenue. Tesla on tv got repaired have hooker. I well i think comedy tommy me that to the amount of santa means i'm like how do you own things you don't. Yes oh my god i had. I had nothing. I had nothing for so long. I had so little all fit in the corner for years. Yeah i mean. How do you get past i. I mean i don't mean how do you get past like the resentment but never but i'm like how to come here to do any of this stuff especially like i don't come from money and it was the only reason we moved out here because he got a job and i don't think we would have if either of us hadn't gotten a job we wouldn't have come out no way no way. How like. how do you get the courage to come ten years ago. What was it that like gave you that. Well you guys were in new york. But she's you right from new york so it kind of like because you've seen but the city with an industry city with the ceo. And i was in seattle and that's the city with no industry. So you have to so those are the those are the cities where you have to make the decision to move to. La or new york. And nothing's going to happen with your career right. Yeah like very few of us have gotten picked up on stuff from our respective cities. Like ron fudges guy like a budget work from portland before we moved to la. But that's not gonna happen for all of us. Yeah yeah i always forget your from seattle. I don't know why. I'm always thinking something else because my other thing is like because i love one of the first one. That's how you do stand up. You did so many jokes about your mother. So you understand. Black mama drama. So that is very important to me but also to like you have three brothers and they or in relationships like i know there's at least one one you'd like one niece or nephew like i feel like they're very like settled grow. There's one of them living with me. And he's just he's just he's a he's a he's only lose one fan. He's only fray in this current climate. Yeah like the mid nineties From central crunch crunch andy. The mid nineties. Yes yes you were in the epicenter nirvana and mud honey and pearl jam. Honey was a band River band and said why people galore. As far as the i can see never ending. It's like what are you sad about the music that how that works but like i guess i'm saying that. Did you feel that pressure. Like i know i feel like this name of my mother was growing up. The way i did was like if i was going to do this. I had to be successful. There was no in between because not only would have been would have been a sort of ego bruised but like i remember when my mom said to me i was in new york and i'm i think i was like between temp jobs. Something and i'm kind of doing stand up at night. But obviously she's like bar shows whatever and she literally said to me straight up. She goes naomi. I did not work as hard as i did for this to your life very serious rice so it was like well. There's literally no way for me. I have to like make this my living. There's no way. I can just like keep doing a barsha and still get love from my mother. Did you have that pressure. Mine was actually spite us. I was more along the lines of. Oh okay i'm improve. I'm gonna prove you fuckers rock. You guys sudden you don't you what are you doing. Is this what you want your life to be. I'm like you know what bitch you're going to eat these words and now now give money and she's like you know what i think. What you do is wonderful. Lots of compliments coming now that she got bills paid for. Was there a moment where that spite were like. You felt like despite spite had been fulfilled despite know. There's there's so many people that the great thing about this country is that will give you so many things to be spiteful about so it's a never ending the tank is always full. This is where i feel like. We connect resentment. Yeah it's never we're going to keep it's like at this point become like a god. I think i will have to keep going. Yep yep yep hey reach those clouds clouds where is it. God live the stars. I've never heard afraid to reach for the clouds. Andrew because in my mind. Zeus i say more living in olympia in the clouds. That's what i pictured. Oh what no one else pictured solomon zoo in the client look. I'll accept clouds. I just feel like that's a weird place for the gods live. It's like you can't even see people from that far. Mount olympus i in my mind man olympus. There are clouds around the top where you are. You're in a toga. You're holding a lightning bolts. Probably wearing a fur coat cold up there. It is no amount and just a toga. What the fuck are these. God's doing shit. I really wanna see that now. Your version of zeus but solomon but make it fashion fake for obviously but but still i wasn't gonna need the installation of course. Okay okay. this feels good. I feel like i'm ready. Do you feel ready in. Yeah i feel pretty good feel do you feel like i'm i'm happy to answer people's questions and just give them the wrong advice. All right we'll take a quick break and we'll be right back after this. Hey y'all breaking into the show very quickly to just give you three pieces of information if you would like to support the show. There are a couple of different ways. One of them is our patriots. Now i love doing this. We we just get to like sit on the couch. And i really dig in to our feelings we dig into our feelings. We dig into our lives. We're really mining our love for content. If you're into that you can go to patriot dot com slash couples therapy pod for five dollars you get two bonus episodes a month and tons more bonus content. The other way you can help us out is viable merch. We've got awesome. T shirts don't we. Hey look you know me you know in my little indie rock heart. All i ever wanted was cool t-shirt and we finally got him now. We got him. 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We get voicemails and voicemails are my favorite. Because you can really hear where someone's emotional. Why my dear this first one is voicemail guide and of course if you would like to have your own voice mail three two three five two four seven eight three nine. Please keep it to under. Three minutes is suggesting timer. You will get cut off recently. A number of people have left two or three messages. Because then you cut off your back. I write it down in practice I have been seeing this guy since december me. Think a little more official in february We have a lot of fun together. They're caring and affectionate Close social circle is a lot of other. Lgbt people as a gay man His officer all just happens to be a lot more straight people which i do not have a lot of in my life He plays video game online with a group of guys who have recently learned are all trump supporters in both forehand hand in twenty twenty This is gonna be associated as his closest friends. He said eventually the goal would be from new parties. And things like that. Would these people Because that's what he did pre pandemic so when the time comes that's what he's explained to be like Me i can't imagine fainting some sort of friendship with trump supporters. It's possible to maintain a relationship. When i want nothing to do with his friends being unfair in prejudging or visit twenty. Twenty one and a hardline. I just don't know if i'm being on sale or if this is the reality of the world and i need to set some boundaries Can six i got a new Can i say what my actual physical reaction was Gritted teeth my reaction is a fuck fuck. Why are you wasting your time. He plays online video games with trump supporters. That's what i heard. Was i know a guy who spends all day playing video games with trump supporters. I just i'm sorry. You got caught into that. I know i know tangle the web. I mean 'cause here's the thing because my first would also like what have you talked to him about this. Because i believe it's twenty twenty one and we now draw hard line but i understand that some people don't have their impulse where they're like. Well you know some people just like we don't talk politics or it's like we don't wanna i don't wanna fight. I still think it's like that's a privilege that you can just like ignore about your business. So i don't buy it but i think it's like what does he say when you're like. Hey act came. Fuck with a trump supporter. Yeah it's well for me. This is also this. Phone call is a nice little slice of his privilege because he can make the decision on whether or not he should be friends with. Possibly terrible people like you can get a chance to figure out who they are and maybe get to know them better. But ultimately they made a decision to elect to vote for someone and open white supremacists who was specifically said in syria words to amongst like every person of color in this country. So you have to decide that if that is somebody your social somebody who's okay with being in the program even if they don't talk about things he still giving a soft approval of their political beliefs at this point in history when we're dealing with little nazis on the streets being murderous rampage motherfuckers and you have to make that decision to be like no. I don't need to go get out of your head. It's never going to go at like it's going to be something in the back of your mind that you're going to feel guilty about and that's not a basis. You should be starting a relationship with you. Should be starting a relationship in the most positive note possible. Yeah and if the software starting at than you are taking too big of a risk that's going to lead to much bigger resentment in the future. Yeah yeah it's it's it's yeah. I don't know what else to do. I mean look. There's there's like this part of me that's like wants to try to rehabilitate the less racist. I don't know what to do about that. This is the thing it's just like. He trump was an open white supremacy. There was no. There's no debating this kind of stuff and everyone around him was like one of the most fucking loathsome mutants and world disgust. Stephen miller is fucking like if If ghalem gum fucked pile of feces. Wow i best not trying to get something more clever. Or it's it's just it's one of the things like people like that. Do give permission to exists with people that they openly hate like. There's are racist that are fine with black people in their presence. There are people like these people. So it's like yeah. He knows these people and they probably like we're fine at your gate but not honest truth. They're not they're not right. There's no way they can be and if they are living they've decided to have a contradiction and that is even more warped of belief like it's just one of those things where it's like. Do you want do you. You're gonna end up thinking that you can change. People who are not generally changeable outside of being shamed furiously by society as a whole. Yes yes that's one of the things that have been saying for years now. We have to bring shame back right. We have not talked about like sexual things. Not shame about like those personal things but shame about you. Have to feel at the very least. You may not feel bad about being a white supremacist. But you should feel that. It is shameful to say publicly. Yeah you should have to yourself. We need to bring that back. When start this campaign no it should be definitely associated with things should be like people people make fun of not enough none of us because you feel comfortable enough to speak about it and you feel comfortable enough to think you're not and they're like they're the us enough. Things seem that they're like safe. But i'm like we know who you are exactly. Well also say this. And i know you know i believe you can tell a lot about people by the company they keep so. I also need you to kind of look at this person. You are in a relationship with because this person has no problem. You know because again. It's not even just that their voices you play video games with right head narrow you saying you hang out offline so that's even worse it's like one thing if you're like well i never see him. I you know even then still fucked up. But i could kind of see me online. I don't care but no you interact with these people. You interviewed people knowing full. Well what they think and if they have decided that They can be friends with a gay man. And that's the one sliver of exceptions. They have in their life. Why do you want to be friends with them. Why does your boyfriend want to be friends with them. I just have to say like if you a little too loose about that kind of thing. Meaning people bigots. They're just like have a little like let's get a cocktail with the big. Yeah no no no no no to lose. It's a gateway it's going to get worse absolutely not i mean you hate to be too harsh because i know like you know we all have friends who can be a little trifling or they get drunk and embarrass you. I hate to say like you know your friends. Say something about you all the time but certainly that type of point of view on life that you choose to be around eventually gonna lead up to something and then you're going to have to be like oh i can probably give it a while. He'll say he'll say something till say some fucked up to fucked up to. If he's been that much time with people you have to have something outside of just the video games to relate to so right right. I want to say look. We're not. We're not trying to police anyone's thoughts all right. We just want them to keep their thoughts. Private police thoughts. I wanna make erase every white supremacist memory. As as much as i on hope that needs to be a new men in black metal aliens. It should be going around with that neuro. liser thing. Yeah he's saying the memories of white supremacy. It was like if it was like something that i can put like a glove that can put my hand just one slap laughable. This is a good idea. Look the men in slap. Oh my god. Wow that's it that's it you know you don't need to be with this person. This is one of those things where you know. It's not a good idea and you can tell a good idea. And i know that you're reaching out to number two just the affirmation that it's not a good idea. Your show has one black person and the other was also the the jewish person. I think there's going to be like. Hey maybe don't date the guy who and chill with with nazi sympathizer i. It's just like we can rehabilitate these people and that part of me that the longer time goes on that part of me just gets like cry. That little part that started off as like a tiny p is now like a molecule rid of it complete. It's now at at this point. What you need to do is work on the script. Men and slap wherever starring look good suits look good slap. The shit out of white men calm. I know some producers. Listen to this hollywood. Are you listening attention to this. The pitch me okay. This next one comes to us anonymous from an instagram direct message. It says my mom is really bad at keeping track of her money and every month. She asked me for money. Which is fine like i live at her house and everything but recently. She's been needing more and more parentheses. I usually will pay her two hundred and fifty dollars for the car and two hundred dollars for we'd every but last month she needed a thousand dollars from me because she didn't. I didn't read this before. That was really funny but last month she needed a thousand dollars from me because she didn't have money to pay our mortgage and again this month. She just told me she needs another thousand dollars for the mortgage. Like what do i do. I don't know how to tell her. I can't keep giving her all this money. And i feel i'm not able to save any because i always have to give my extra money to her and she knows i have and i keep doing it. So it's like she expects it. Now i don't know i don't want her to be sad but also like four question marks what the hell so. And that's because you had mentioned earlier like giving your money. And i know like in a joking form but i don't know i like this is like real to me. And because basically what he was saying to this the writer was because he's like. I live her now but i'm trying to save to not live with her but if i gotta give her a thousand dollars every month i can't say to not live with her and so it's like you know and i know you know i lived with my mom for a while like when i came back from college and of course it was in new york and i was like oh. I got a bed in harlem own state. Yeah but you know yeah it came with like it was very much like okay. You will pay the following bills. But i'm gonna go cats and like i knew that straight up. It's not the same as like just like pass me thousand dollars quick. Look it's one of the things like you're going to have to either it's again. It's if you say you'd have to say no eventually be like i i have. I'm trying to move out but also like what's like get out also move out. That's i know you're trying to save money. But how much money do you gotta say. Especially if you live in a place where one thousand dollar mortgage. I don't think it's expensive. it's a right. Yeah but what happens. I mean i think this is. This is where it's difficult. It's like what happens if that mortgage doesn't get paid then both out. Well that's the big it out from somebody else. I think she's fine now. It's it's one of those things where somebody it's just make things easier for them. It's kinda you have to be straight up with your mom and be like. Hey i got a not give you too much money or or find another situation find another couch. It's hard to be straight up with mom though you know. It's so hard especially when you live with her. Especially because as we hear from the we'd they have a blurred lines relationship money but we y'all hanging out so it's like it's like apart friends but obviously that your mother your living. You're living in her house. You are paying for like the car stuff. And so i think it's can be so hard to just be like look exactly the same way like my mom is asking me for money and i don't say no i say it's also you know at some point the it's what do you want to live by yourself just moving with your mom. Yeah it's like fifteen thousand dollars. I'm going to have a bedroom. I'm going to wait around that direct relationship like can you say like i can't just directly say thanks to my parents I can say. I don't say things directly to my parents unless it's unless it's some the my my parents say something so terrible that i have to say the thing that negates it for the most part i just don't give a shit. I'm not trying to fight because it'd be the a million fights up. But i definitely i definitely know that the power structure is the dynamic has shifted. And i'm not. I'm not just i'm not. It's not like the child. You can talk down to and say tom what to do with their life Wait when did that shift When i gave my mom money because she was still talk with me on the phone. I would just hang up a now. Sit back. and she's like okay. okay. That's a little later. That i thought because i was gonna say to and it goes back to what you were saying. It's like you gotta move out in order to draw that line you know. It's essentially probably the only way to do things because it's your she is doing you the favor of giving a letting you mature intruder space as an adult. And it's also like haiti. She gave birth to you. So that's you'll never stop wearing her up even though you never asked for it. So because then she'll slap unify. It's just one of those things where you have to find another situation where you can save money for yourself because it's especially. It's not one of those things that it's a easily go. Yeah oh i got an idea. This is a genuine one. All right what. If she asked for thousand dollars. I can give you blank. I can give you five hundred and so like your timeline for moving out. It goes longer but you're also not cutting her off and instantly true. It's probably can be done. A good luck to this person is she ate. Bring bring bring lawyer in if you can. You also have far enough away that she can't roll up on your doorstep because i remember when you first apartment was only like fifteen blocks from my mom's house and you know i was called on to let con edison and to do all this work in the house like it was like still like that. It's like you gotta be far enough away so then you are not on call because he'll still ask you for money even when you move at least one town away but at least when you move out you're like oh i don't have that money because i've rent. Yeah so that's that's only reason. I'd have children so they can take care of me one day. I don't think there's any other reason to have children just watching. We just watched something where we were like. Maybe we should. There is a john oliver. Oh last week tonight thing about like nursing homes and assisted living care facilities and we looked at each other. And we're like should we have kits so so so what takes care so you don't get abused in a nursing home but i don't wanna baby so we said we decided we were going to adopt a teenager up. We're in our sixty s will adopt a teenager teenager to. I was actually going up to the squad of black teens. I was gonna shut him. Gimme your celsius teens. I want i will show up with non brand shoes and the ones that make fucking meanest remarks were going with me by the way not a bad idea for tv show listening. Oh my god. No i think i think. Teenagers are great because they because they don't respect you which is definitely. I don't want that for children with children are just two nights. I don't trust them like british children. That are polite. That's a fucking game in the fuck away from me knows the teens are so mean and scary like i remember like walking into europe. I like paths teens on the street. I'd like kind of seize up for a minute and just keep it quick. Look down look down. Don't let them make money. Who see i i was. I was the opposite of that. Whenever a kid wasn't mean enough. I'd be like what can i do to become a person's threatened especially especially if it's a black about black teen girl i'm like what can i do to learn her secrets. The fact that you made up a whole song about my outfit by looking at it like that is. That is a power that i want to bring to my side it is. It is a weapon that you can use to benefit you wait. What's that about What set about like. What is it that attracts to that. You like it's just it's just it's just it's just so beautiful. It's an art form. It's not appreciated like bullying is not appreciate it. As an art form those mean kids like there's bullies that are just like just hit you and runoff but the ones that just talk shit in psychological warfare. That is that is brilliant. That is a future. Ci spy that is somebody who will topple governments down if you if you if you point them in the right direction and that's what you want to right now on. I wanna give black. Sassy teens an opportunity to use their skill. Set to make the world a worse or better place. Yeah yeah i get it. I get i get watching it. I don't wanna be in the line of fire. I get like like watching electra. Read the lady in the long island. Yeah we watch live that. That is a thing of beauty. I so i understand it i just like you know it's there's this There's this tingle of fear. Because i don't want to be watching on tv even in a scripted tv. Show watching some. There's a tingle fear that like what if she turns out at sees me and then i'm at i'm in the line of fire. My shit i live for those moments. I thrive in those moments. Because i like going toe to toe i like. I like showing up to shit talking session. Because i don't even like roasts because like roasts like those are those are prepared this some loving it. I want i want. I want acid spitting. I want i want impromptu improvise shit talking where there's no rules. There's a good chance. Walk away with my wave. that's the kind of paramount. Plus are you listening as the new. Jeff ross spitting. Let's do one more. This is a voicemail haney. Andy i'm julia. I'm twenty seven. I live in brooklyn I'm calling with a roommate if she would question So i got a new roommate in august which was its own total saga But me and my other ritual remains found. This guy who's veto friend dead at him. It's definitely not my preference to live with a man but here we are. He's totally fine except for distinct so anyway when he first moved and he went through this wild series of unfortunate events. Like i've not seen anyone go through this much per personal life tragedy on top of everything else so he's definitely going through a really hard time right now He's definitely not like feeding themselves. Well or immediate. All from what i can tell which is not really my business except this part is i would say so. The one snack that he loves And his self-proclaimed favorite snack to walk around the house. It'd be like i love this. Which is wild to me is He loves handfuls of raw the getty. Ross big eddie. It's crunchy okay. So for context. I have a little touch with mrs phone. Yeah which is like With certain small towns such as someone being. Ross getty Insights like a rage reaction. In me. And i can sort of like he'll it like i experience it as pain in my body And so this is like a really weird mismatch between us. I definitely should have nipped in the bud. The first time he did it. But honestly i was truly shocked at. This is what he was eating. I didn't say anything And now i'm not really sure what to do. I don't know if this ship has sailed. I'm sure i should just bring it up. But honestly he really seems like his happiest when he's like like hop around the house eating raw spaghetti and i know he's going through this really hard time so i i want whatever happiness he can have it really driving up the wall so any thoughts on how to approach the subject would be greatly appreciated. I also just wanted to. You know be able to vent that. This is something that someone does and one time. He alternated eating the raw spaghetti with handful of almonds. And that was a moment where i left the house and took a walk anyway. Thank you very much I hope you answer this question. I'm show by insane. I this is one of those situations where i know. Everyone involved is white But it's just so much passive aggressive and that is truly unnecessary but handfuls of raw spaghetti. It's the flavor it's the texture the end of the day you can say. Hey it bothered me when you do this. I will try to not be around when you're doing it but if you can also avoid doing around me i would appreciate it but yeah it's it is but essentially it's her problem it's not it's it's like it's like yeah. It's noise cancelling headphones. I was gonna say miss a phony israel. Yeah no it's real but that's the thing that you have to tell people that up top. It's really like knowing one good. No one's gonna be aware enough to that. Yes the idea of spaghetti is insane. And but also if he's willing to share that information you should share his santa that is one of the most annoying things in the world. And i feel like that's also something. He's probably not surprised by the sound of you eating raw spaghetti. It infuriates me. As a matter of fact. I as i'm person certain towns also caused me to be very mad like the sound of my mom eating cereal. I don't want to be around for it i will. I want to burn the house down. And that's one of the and it's just but i also i walk. I walk away from it. And that's it. It's essentially you have to tell people what's going on right and the compromise. It'd be like hey we should just be mindful but also he needs to leave anybody. Who's walking around your house. Skipping and eating raw spaghetti is love. This i love loss mega. Am and then he just hops around the house. He sounds terrible. Oh no he's not sure serial killer in one way or another and that might be the only thing that stops for murdering some maybe. This is the last straw before he. That's beginning what are you drinking. What's rice that's wrong rights. I can drink raw rice if i want like. It's just one of those things where i feel like people like when you live with people and their bad habits show up and it's it's this is via. I'm just so. I'm very happy to live with my brother because we have the same bad habits. So there's nothing he does that i don't do that. I'm this can't be disgusted. Ever had a weird roommate many. So many. And the i've i've i've had i've had to call the cops on one. I why because he was swinging a bat at me. Oh yeah. I live seventy flop-houses here and there so it's always like there's always one person i've been secretly doing heroin for two months. I've been living with you and you're like oh tight because have to deal with that real quick or i drink malt liquor every night and i don't flush the toilet also i guess living don't live with man is what i recommend on. Were you living alone. Yes okay. I although i've been living with just one thing if you if you don't have the resilience to deal with the disgustingness living with men especially single men because single men have nothing to to to be to get ready for or to live up to or no one to impress. Straight men are hand the worst like no matter what they're going through you're gonna find something that they're place will disappear for months at a time and just reappear with trauma. That's the best so yes. Oh yeah. I had a roommate wants. He came from a very wealthy background and didn't understand how to like. Keep a hat. Do anything around the house like care for it. Then once there was like he wanted to clean the floor so we took like our spaghetti pot and put like bleaching and then use that as to like mop it was like i just remember coming to like destroyed pots and pans. I i've woken up to burnt mac and cheese on the stove because they left the thing on and almost burned down the house. God it's just a list of things you kind of win win. Once you agree to live with single straight men you have to make a sacrifice and so it's so it's just one and this is in the grand scheme of things chewing raw spaghetti low level on what has been done in my In the premises that. I paid money to live in. It's funny how much of of these advice questions. Boil down to have a direct conversation with a purse. Yeah it is. It's sort of like the plot of every romcom or it's like if you just said something. The movie would been over ten minutes if you're like. Hey i like you. And they're like oh me too that it's over and i think people ask advice questions because they're trying to find escape hatch for that direct conversation. Direct conversation is so uncomfortable for like ninety percent of the population that they will try anything else before they have to have that company. And here's the thing. Is that the direct. Conversation is the best one like i do i do. I'm i love confrontation. I i love making sure that anyone everyone in the world knows exactly how i feel about something because it's just truly. Wow what a waste of your life to just not tell people you don't like you don't like them. What have you always been direct like that. Oh yeah i think. I think my directness is so much of the point. That people are you. Okay because you just see. Just tell truth. And i'm like i thought that's the best way to live your life. That's why i tend not to be so stressed out so often time. That's true you let it out. You let it out so i don't know you wanted to live with but it also sounds too. It's like he's gone through something. And it's like which makes me feel like you're afraid to say something because he might be volatile have a or he might be sad or he might have a tantrum or he might whatever and it's like i don't know this person came in to this person. Sign a lease. Can they be out in twelve months. Like you know what i mean. Do you have the option to because as you said. You didn't even wanna live the guy you're kind of stuck in this situation. So either he goes or you go. Yeah that's essentially what it but it's also it might even be go away situation really like because you don't what the next person's gonna have. There might be might eat cook spaghetti but then they also might throw some toes in there. We don't know like the world is a fucking gross and dangerous discussing place so it's one of those things where if you just generally be like. Hey not around me. This is my thing except by. Yeah can you go snacking your room. A fucking lunatic. Yeah and also. Noise cancelling headphones. Yeah that's yeah that's that's handy one but also you know what people can learn to eat raw spaghetti and the goddamn streets like the fuck out here. can you imagine just walking down bedford and just seeing someone. Just challenge down on some run. Zony just about lebron's open. Yeah like like. They were popcorn. Yeah pull it out. Just pull it out for folly. A time i've seen minnie mouse. Smoke crack new york. We've seen things in the streets and you're like and not in times square. Just just hanging out in queens biz new york to solomon thank you so much for gracing us for blessing us. It was a blessing for me to to see your faces so good to see. You glad you're looking well and thriving and we should all be so lucky handymen in slap and have a direct conversation. those are my two take producers. Have you have our contact information about me. We'll see you next week.

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Stand-Up w/ Chris Distefano

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Sam Jay, Megan Gailey, Langston Kerman & Guest Host Sydnee Washington!

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I p. s. t. a. t. i. Oh n. dot com the promo code standup s. t. a. n. d. u._p. Ships dot com make ship happen. You're listening to comedy central. I'm in shipment divorced. In stupid is why gate he shouldn't be getting fucking married on on dogs hetero normative shit that ain't built for us. You fill me like marriages for straight people. It makes sense. Y'all don't make sense for gaining because there's so many different dynamics at play but we tried to do y'all shit. We shouldn't have fought for no fucking shit. That was stupid. We should have fought for a tax break. That was the better fight. That was just a better conversation. It was really going to give us what we wanted but we got caught up eighty to be married to and we don't because we don't oh we don't even have function this sane and we knew how to be married before all these laws and shit. We were still getting married. That's the funny thing about any oppressive group. They take. They stop the from doing shit but you don't like when you know when things were slave. That felt like a weird thing. I shouldn't say like niggers and slaves leaves but i like say when they were slaves. Y'all can't marrying niggers would just jump the broom and then figure out how to beat you know. You can't stop that shit. It was like we were still getting married as gay people but it made more sense for us. You just met a chick on app or you met her at a bar wrong. I bitch. I love you and then you just do a barbecue. A solid ass barbecue like what am barbecues never run out of ribs like mark nice. Done you know da this bitch. We marry and they way you would done. You just win other barbecue hetero normative shit makes sense for yo. Y'all make babies shit saying i feel like that's the whole point again. Married is the wrong you know. Why else do you do it. Consistently fuck ralph off like a lot so i got a lock something down and keep fucking it. Roll the marry somebody and then when you hate them. There's a whole baby because you've been fucking rossellini. I can't leave you bitch baby with my dick in the stay engage. We don't have that me and my wife didn't have the only thing me and my wife had between each other was a cell phone plan. That's not enough. It's not enough for me to stay when i don't wanna be in mother fucker many holding me that was like bits go to sprint. This is bullshit. Fuck outta here. Hey welcome to stand up with krista steffano. He's not year. It's me guest hosting sydney washington washington cinema definite with cindy washington. Oh my god exciting. I'm nicole boys. <hes> you're humble producer. Today i love it. Let me know if you need anything at at all just a couple of gals chatting chattan so we just heard sanjay <hes> mary i'm so here we shouldn't case should intermarry. I'm just not here for the concept of marriage. I just nouns cute within in actuality most people i've seen married after a couple years ah miserable so we just need to throw the whole thing out jags. The whole thing. You know dating's cute. Why don't we leave cute q. Why do we have to be connected to somebody like financially through the government like that's too much too much. Just just keep it can't tell us about yourself because because you're you're hosting chris today. Yes so what what your standup. I am a stand how long you've been doing. I've been doing it for six and a half year. You know if the industry is is listening just like a cube six and a half years. That's the perfect amount perfect amount to critique comedy yeah so we're this is the roast of isn't enough that i know how comedy works but also like. I'm not as jaded when you're twenty years in. It's like i only only one here my own jokes like six and a half years in your bring somebody else's i'm totally listening and not be biased. Okay not bison great critique ow oh no no no jake asia okay okay. He's gonna be back soon. He's <hes> he's gone. He's he's not with us today. He's no longer with us. He died. He'll be back. Oh chris what's a heaven and he'll be back next week. The only people that have ever come back to live for jesus and krista stuff and honestly i think the people who love chris actually believes that's that's something he could do. I believe it yeah that distefano stands there like yes chris very possible of dying coming back. I agree <hes> so you you like sanjay lot. One of your these are sydney's picks today so we're listening to all your phase. I i'm a fan of sam's. I'm like her friend. Casually her friend and i think that she's the closest to like patrice o'neal richard okay like very raw. She's going to give it to you. She doesn't hold back and <hes> you know it is what it is if you like. If you fuck her you do if you don't you don't and she is not worried about the pushback and i love that yeah totally totally. That's how comedy should be. Oh yeah <hes> oh. You're expand your what you want to expand to our viewers. Abuse comedy is like fun like why are we making it bigger. What is this is for you to laugh. This is not a dissertation on topics. We are not professors like you might learn some shit but then like at the end. It's like we were sitting on a toilet taken a number two when we thought about that bid so why aren't behind the curtain washington's right in process the best i i me to write a joke is often it. I'm like let me get a pen and let me you get a pen and pad. It's time to write about you. Just keep on by the yeah because i'm gonna be here for a while just when you think you're finish having the runs ah that's true you know. It just comes on like a shower anymore unless i have. I'm going through like instagram. I don't know if you have the problem so maybe i should write instead any you i less. I'd just like i get nervous. I need like something to do. This is a confession. I'm worried about unicol call. I know it's your problem. You're one of those people who <hes> who who liked giving golden showers and can't pee. There's there's somebody being what you are at home and not what you need to go help now. Not what is it dictate to instagram but maybe it should be writing instead because you're like fucking thorough on the toilet impressive. I wanna be productive. That's all it is that is i think quotations productive <hes>. What kind of stuff do you like to joke about what i like to joke about your material. I'm a narcissist says so. I love talking about me. Yeah i talk. I talk about this stuff that i go through because you can't tell me that my experience is wrong. It happens to me. I'm telling you first hand lies so you can't tell me that my life is wrong because you know it's a lie because it's your la. It's my life okay. Do you li- you're saying <hes>. I don't lie building i- i- embellish okay because as a person he was in entertainment. I hear a lot of civilians. That's what i call. People who are not in comedy. Tell their stories bitch. Where is the punchline. Where is the uh. I don't have time to listen to the story. That has no funny yeah so in order to make things funny. You got a little bit of corinth. That's the one of the first things that people don't realize about san jose. It's people when they come in. They just tell stories and there's no. There's no structured out punch lines in there right so it's just kind of like this is crazy thing that happened to me and then there's no it's always your fran jackie. That's telling these stories iraqis jackie. I don't care how how many peanut breaches you had a bad storm fucking funny. I can you ever go to people's weddings and they're just like at the table telling. Can you what happened and you're like. Let me just punch this up and i could throw in. You know something. That actually didn't happen. You're making good or punching. People stars at their a wedding. I listen to people's stories in uber pools. I take them make do that. Baby sydney washington official remix remix listen. I number sixty five i. appropriate other people's. You know truths in turn it into my own i almost i almost played. There's a sanjay clip about uberpool. Rupaul romo's played but i did not so funny. Listen to the gays shouldn't marry one yeah but if you if you do listen it's just like valley to always sit in the front if you're in suber pool because then you don't feel like oh. I'm a bomb friend of the driver. Yeah that is that's <hes> sanjay's clip off donna's donor comedy central records album listen to that certify apple music obsessed like you are with instagram <hes> <hes> twitter yes. I have an addiction. I'm sick is fine. We all we're all addicted to something and we can all be addictive weekday belong as we do it in moderation. That's it. That's not addiction though if it's in moderation that's where you're wrong because i'm addicted to a a lot of things but i would. I remind myself that's why you gotta have on your phone a little reminder like put your phone down boop. Take shit boop. Call your girlfriend boop like you're going to have have reminders to help us if i did heroin once a month in my addicted no okay casually to to know hypothetically if that was ever happen once a month you're doing heroin. That's like recreational. That's like you're doing at a party like when does it become addiction <music> monday through friday monday to friday business hours a nine to five nine when nine to find drugs and you're out of office is doesn't count yeah. Is there anybody listening to listen to me. I am not the expert on this. This is all jokes. This is now becoming a science podcast section election. Sorry chris <hes> okay so let's play we got to other clips. They've chosen megan gaily how not to get murdered and lincoln kerman the the white spirit so and play those now gimme. I worry about getting murdered a lot. I get it. I know you can't act this way and be like i'm gonna live forever. It's like i'm definitely going to be in a trump kind of that. I come home really really late at night which is just like murdering women happy hour her so developed a couple of fun little tricks. Try not get killed so like when i get out of my car instead of walking down the sidewalk like a regular woman men i choose to sprint down the center of the road constantly turning headlights and it's less so a murderer can't catch me and more so another murderer thinks i've already been claims like i know rick. Scott are okay. Men sometimes sometimes get upset with me. I get that they'll come up to me after shows and they're like why are you so political. I'm like i'm just up here being like stop hitting. It hurts birds. I don't hate men i really. I don't want you to think i i love men. I keep saying that wrong. I love dick. Do and people are so mean to dix to like dicks caused wars dick's evil to women. It's like dixon magical beautiful presents that happened to be attached to monsters on stirs. That's what's happening like when is addictive or the wrong form of your never never addiction shows up in a hawaiian shirt to meet your family like auto know what the issue is well. There's a lot of issues either. My parents not not a goddamn. Jimmy buffett concert dick's are so cool you guys have so many tricks you can do like a dick wakes aches up excited ready to go ready to greet the day what a morning person addict wakes up before the human. It's attached two. How would that not on mythbusters. That's the craziest thing i've ever heard. Laura never thirty years. I'm like oh my china's awake time to go to work. I love men men love me kind of i guess my dad's very confused by my interactions with men like one guy drove six hours to see me for two hours. There's and then immediately drove back six hours and my dad was like why would anyone ever do that. There's no nice way to be like. I don't know i just got that good pussy. You can't say that i'm wendy. I'm griffin door and i love what you go into businesses and in the women's bathroom they have signs on the wall that say please don't flush any tampons down the toilet and it's like oh well we are. That's exactly what we're doing a hundred percent of the time there's always a trash can out. I'm like your trash. Can i make seventy seven cents on the dollar. I'm not waddling to a trash. Can hilary lost. She lost a flush shoot down the toilet if i want to. I'm gonna be postmenopausal. Just dipping tampons pudding fast pitch softball in them. No no no you can't do it. It's like an environmental crisis tampons getting the sewer they clump together and then a man has to go down and break it apart. I'm like that's the greatest thing i've ever heard in my life. No google image search has made me faster then a man in has matsue having to chisel apart or robert de lis statue of use tampons. God bless america the before we play the next stand clip. I wanna talk to you about a new podcast. The creators of comedy central's new t._v. Show southside have teamed up with w._b._z. Z. chicago to bring you. The new podcast southside stories every episode the writers and stars of southside diablo rome bashir salahudeen will bring you real stories about real. You'll people in the real south side of chicago but instead of just talking about chicago talk to the people who actually live there and work there and we're born there and learn their stories stories though meet inventors go step in and grab some herald and maybe even get to the bottom of all those parking tickets <hes> louis chicago humor. This is a show about the south side of chicago. You don't see so if you're done watching the critically acclaimed show southside on comedy central tune in south side stories for deeper dive into the people and places of chicago subscribe now to sell side stories to find out what life on the south side is all about tents man. It is very tense and i don't wanna blame. I don't want to turn this into a thing where white people people feel like you're mostly white for anybody listening on the record. This is almost entirely white. I used to live with that was pretty cool. I love what the white one for like a year and that was really learnings enemy. I learned a lot. I should be clear. We weren't having sex. I know the law but we're roommates. We were friends. We live together me and my woman. She was cool. She my woman. I call her my woman because because i don't want her back she's ruined. She's tainted my woman. She believed you didn't go any of y'all do that. And if you call why anybody believes and goes do you're not yeah you do. Ah oh this is great. This is so exciting. Don't be nervous. I'm gonna make fun of you but it's okay. It'll be it'll be fine. It'll be we why why have you ever seen it goes. No of course not the of course the fiction that you're living. Do you know anybody that goes no well. Then what the fuck walk. What are you doing that for. Why is there you like way the way you like just cooking dinner and then there's a nigga standing behind you love showing scare you turnaround you. Tell you as soon as you turn friend. That's you just like the idea that spirits oh. Oh is it like a spiritual thing you like the idea. The spirits are still present. That's cool. It's silly but it's cool my wife woman. She was like you she. She like actively. Believe theft goes exists in the one day. She woke me up. We were living together and she woke up middle of the night. She came to my came to my room to wake me up to tell me she thinks our apartment is haunted because she could hear sounds in the walls. We lived in brooklyn brooklyn. New york came to oh my god. I think i can hear them in the walls to which i replied hush josh hey. What do you need almond butter. Do bakers look in our neighborhood where we live. There's no goes. We're just poor sweet santa poverty baby. Let's not a ghost rambling. Is james cricket having sex with a shopping cart procreate every crackhead. He has this shopping cart the life partners with this ringworm. I do think that's the i've thought about about this. I do think that's the nicest thing about being a why won't you guys get to believe in ghosts. That's the best part of being a white. You guys you get to believe in whenever we don't. I don't get to believing you understanding how silly i would be your aside. We'll get to believe in. I have a hard enough time. Convincing my black friends. We could shop but the gap as the ross from france. The dance got the emphatic. Tell you some negative ten years for dancing and said he wishes the contaminated the water black people don't believe in shit we'll get to be you won't get to be silly like this. How fucked up america's black people don't even get to believe and police brutality. I knew this part would be fun. We don't go this whole time. We've been screaming. Police have been killing us for no reason. This is fucked up. Somebody should stop. This just won't fair right. We want to be equal and people white people like no no hey hey. The police are brings. Good people sure he shot you wiggled. You should iraq curriculum no good welfare wigs. They say that i think in my apartment i hadn't seen it but something tells tells me it's fair and then why do you like we believe you. We believe every word the world is filled with possibility you okay so you just heard megan gaily and langston kerman. I love of i love them. Both actually i just had megan gaily on my comedy show at the knitting factory plug this palo day yes <hes> she's just a little little sat and it was fantastic. <hes> i really really on board with the fact that like you have to be innovative as a woman just going home at night. Oh yeah if you maze and like a police baton in your purrs really going to save you when it actually yeah it's not it's not first of all purses are a mess. So how are you going to get the mace with the keys that you forgot at home like they get the the the knuckle. What are those knuckle a knuckle braces or brass knuckle. Well how you going to get the brass knuckles. When you have like a half eaten sandwich in your bag. You're gonna give the rapist like a sandwich before they were. What's going to happen happened just like a whole layer of tampons dick surro- i'm going to give him a hair tie. You know lake. Let me pull your hair in a ponytail michigan here around my eyes yeah yeah walking scary. I mean is it because i will tell you. When i was a full blown alcoholic for like professionally only ten years i would come home late after working my shifts as a cocktail waitress and i was blasted just so wasted and i would fall out out of my cab every time i would stumble out and just fall on the ground and i was sometimes lay there for like fifteen twenty minutes and nothing thing happened to me but you also took a cab took a cavs don't even walking home yet but in order for me to get into my apartment i have to get out of the cab and then walk to my door but the danger zone that's the danger zone but i 'cause sometimes anything can happen like right in front of your building true so far out of the cab and i would be on the ground just laid out possibly in a skirt and shorts or whatever and nothing happened to me like people would walk over me and be like wow the homeless girls. We're good stay up stabilised like that. They would not try anything with me in his. That's crazy. I i was just too available. That's available for these predators. It was it was insane. That's <hes> her <hes> brave. If you're if you're looking for it was kinda like <hes> how to catch a predator it would just i would set it up to shoot that they would be like there's no way that i'm not going gel if i try something okay so let's just too easy. They think it's like they're thinking trout. Yes okay well then. That's the tip okay yeah and and make him. Gailey knows about going home late just being like a stand up comedian. Get ou- you hang out your you've been drinking. It's like how do i get home safely safely without having a comedian drop me off like just like what's worst like a random male or a comedian. I don't know besides krista chris distefano any medians. I think he's the only one i would literally give him my kidneys and he would hold them and then give back clean and have any lay or like cheetahs. He's gray lovey. Crass christmas crows <hes> what was i gonna ask okay so the lincoln but he talks about. He's doing crowd work and his our his album special out so do you do. I wanna ask you do you. You're current due to govern. Let me tell you. I am the best at crowd work. I love research. I love stuff. That's not planned anything that i have to organize myself yeah a mess but when i if it's just like fl- free flowing and it just makes sense like meshes so well me in like the unpredictable and unpredictable. I'm nick of it but to do it on your album honey. Thus craig's you have to be so in tune with what the audience is gonna say you you had to pick someone. Just assume that they're going to get something. That's gonna make me like it's gonna make the even better right yeah yeah that <hes> and then joe. I was just listening to joe i when she did that also on her album and she like it completely works but you have to have done that so many times to like know what they're going to say. This is about ghosts mitch albom say in by y'all. I mean the base people listening so yeah you do you. Do you perform for a lot of white crowds as well. I do you in new york manhattan i do they they'd be out you know. They like get time out. They look at time out new york and they're like what to do by right comedy and we love. We loved it. They become out but sometimes it gets weird because this is what we're talking about this whole group and i. I don't know if they're gonna rock quitter or not but the thing about ghosts is like it is it's universally known how foolish it is with people still believe leaving in by people i mean y'all base anderson as you know because why is it just feels so oh formal. I like to informal okay beijing. I'm calling you white but you could also be my friend. You you know okay love feel very <hes>. Love that yeah we own. We only roast the people we love so when i say say beige it's like i'm i'm about to get you want some shit that do but you know i love you. Some of my best friends are based taylor's all the time. Yeah i feel like <hes> why people love to laugh at ourselves yes to be roasted will they have to you have to yeah yeah when you've been the vantage when you've had the advantage it's like i'm laughing because at the end of the day i'm going on my casper mattress. This is a white person yes as a beige. I'm gonna go on my casper mattress and thinking about about that silly joke that that poor comedian was talking about and just be fine yeah <hes> so they can take it yeah. It's cool. It's some people could take jokes. Other people feel bad about it but i like to you know toast up that white privilege and white guilt for making comedy what it is today. That's a beautiful sentiment. People ever gonna matter you after shows no no. I have great bone structure so by camping. Even if you're upset what you wanna take a picture with me. Just what oh that was me. I i still wanna hang out with their. Your berkshire has so far gone on you. Through a lot of things is what i'm learning. I just wanna say. Is that the key to success. I'm blessed. I mean my pores invisible reasonable like how could you not for the homer. Pores are invisible. I also use like primer so that's why but anyway it's trump. What's this is gone. I'm not talking about skin care. You have to wear primer as a woman. You know like you have primer for your car and your walls that that's why bitches are putting on a faces before they with their makeup explaining to men like in terms of cars and walls. You know you put lime or on a basketball. We're doing to our face. Okay primary writing this down primary smooths out everything and then you put your makeup on. It just seems seamless. Thank you for that. I'm here to help you know uh-huh for the males that are listening and they just wanna see what their lady is doing. I just told you what she's doing spend seen priming the face. It's true women women to do so much. Oh yeah we have to draw and other faces for you to be interested. It's insane even as a lesbian. I still have to do a little arts and crafts on on my face because you know <hes> women like our as well yeah. I just realized this is a lesbian edition of standard christmas definite on active active. Oh look i'm back at the owner. This is the pride and addition of end up with krista stephanie allah <music> because he let us do that. She gave us president in nineteen word thriving. We're having <hes>. Do you have anything you wanna plug before we rapa anything you want to discuss because millions and millions of listeners okay <hes> because i'm such a professional i feel like i plugged plug so much always be plugging lugging. That's why we're in this industry ep baby so yes. I have a podcast the unofficial expert on forever dog. It's where we interview people who think they're experts and things that you don't need to be an expert in okay fine. <hes> i have a stand up comedy show every sunday at nine pm at the knitting factory free free free. It's insane insane and then you know i'm literally just out every night doing stand up just trying to be a better person and you can catch me in brooklyn in in queens. Nope z. that crazy high love myself and in queens but i'm everywhere else. I'm all out and i actually have. I'm working on my new solo show called. Oh my favorite book of open know my favorite open book of beautiful beautiful garbage. Wow okay yeah okay so low. Show elephant show love for you because i really do just being by myself. That's a great thing that hey stand up that. Is you know you often aw it's so odd but pseudogreen. Do you do santa overnight. I do i do and that's why my day the job i have a day job. I have a night job. I have a relationship. That's possibly failing who know exclusive. Yes i'm yeah. I've been a fulltime lesbian so you know i love comedy more than love itself. Okay santa cruz exclusive exclusive closer new should should should do sinew washington's hierarchy maslow's hierarchy gave needs. I don't know i don't know what that wasn't cold'll. I feel like i'm making you nervous. Oh i've baird my soul in front of you if anything you should be like well i really have it together that you your cheekbones keep away murderers to that would make me nervous uh-huh nothing to compare it. I gotta work on my facial structure. What nicole first of all you have anyway. I don't even understand why you're not in the new season the l word okay. This is my question. Let's chat okay. That's more my question is why not right. That's the question why didn't i don't know i'm not what the show i casting. What's up what's good. I don't know i'm going to move to l._a. Miss them already serbian. Now i looked at the little preview and i sat alward. No have you didn't like it. No i did not i. I see what you're doing here but you missed the mark. I like seeing porter in a in a ten a._d._h._d. I used to not have a. I suppose that can the olden day and i have to watch the award like a the free videos now dot com. I'm just happy that they will have lesbians and proper denims because the genes that they had on that show originals were triggering an offensive and they were very homophobic out. That's how bad the denims where i was like. Are they like older women. That wears like <hes> free people slash anything. That's at kohl's. I don't know they were like they were top shelf lesbians but the way they dress clothes that was like where are you guys going. I never agree it. Was you know so. I'm excited for the new thing maybe season two. I'm excited but i'm also oh like <hes>. Every brown person you have has a specific curl pattern. There's no braids there. No there's no lace fronts. There's we're we're out here. I'm one of those lesbians that do braids delays fronts. I look i'm straight to presenting but i'm very homosexual. The word love straight presenting besser fave they do but then they don't do. What do you mean well except for like shane. Everyone else's street presenting go. I mean but soon as they aura ara as their or you're just like i see that you guys are acting as if you're lesbians but i can tell you're acting. I just need people who embody the lesbian spirit like dykes lake full dykes. Yes like you should be twenty minutes. Is you start talking about the l. one because we're not those type of lesbians were desperate. I'm different not like hashtag not like not like ellen. It's not our lives. You know it's a it's a lifestyle but it's not our whole life trying to go on my twitter. Followers just like okay well now. We're going to play a clip from you your stand up so if you like this episode lis- this keep listening and do you wanna you wanna plug like your social handles or anything where people can find you. Yes yes okay so my twitter is a work in progress us. You know trying to be better and be an intellect of jokes. <hes> just said n._y._c. so the t. s. y. D. n._y._c. and then instagram. That's where i thrive because i like a color alone. I'm like a picture book. You know pitcher book you like. I don't really care about the captions shinzo the photo cheekbones. I had us crying funny captions but you just like. I just want to look at this picture. So oh nice <hes> on instagram just said be w j u s t s y d b w group <hes> thank you so much for doing man. I had so much fun. Thank you so much and we'll be back next week. <hes> with chris dodd yes resurrected. I can't wait for that. We actually we have the hologram of chris in the freaking building right now. Say hi heart impose great. Sometimes i get confused for people. I don't even know what time i got confused with the stripper and black magic that happened and this guy's yelling black black magic behind me and i had all my clothes on and it was a white guy and just you a white guy yelling out black magic. You'd better be a thousand thousand percent. Shore is black magic. Oh no he didn't say black girl magic. He's at black magic. I'm like you're racist doc so he said i was like magic. I was like no. I'm not black magic he's like. Are you sure i was like. I'm positive he's like you. Look just like her. You gotta go to the strip club. What's let's wow okay but then he gave me a coupon for it so i was like i gotta go. I gotta go. You gave me a coupon for the strip club. You get garlic alec palmer john wings but every first dan so steel. That's a steal. Only some dues know that the wings of the most expensive thing in that bitch you see somebody serve expert expert. Twenty dollars wings be fifty dollars. You like my fucking. The wings later what's going on. Some of y'all dues are these are y'all like flats. I get it so i think the coupon and i go to the strip club right and i don't look like a strip club. Patron coat on i've got all these bags and looking for black magic high and low and then all of a sudden security guard was like excuse me ma'am. You got away after the show for your daughter. Wow that's not a compliment. Either you telling me i look like somebody's mother no offensive moms in here but yeah this is the body of no responsibility disability so yeah. Nobody's mom in here. Okay so i'm in there and i'm like yo black. Magic better looked like me. She better look like me his forehead cheeks she would add his thick asks flavia okay. We're gonna look like we're gonna look alike. There's a lot of labor. Is that a new shoe. It's not a no show clever if you do it. You know what a lady is a lot more men in here then these fucking claps ladies who are not klabin either you gay are you shouldn't be fucking. That's crazy. You don't know what he is. Is the doors to the party okay. Hey you can't get into the party until you say hello to the doors unless you bill cosby. He's a terrible guests. Okay really he did it. He did it. He now my grandfather. He did it okay so anyway. I mean the strip club. Finally black magic comes out there you know she looks nothing like me right because she's asian going on with the lighter in here. Descriptive is like we don't see color titties okay okay. This has been a comedy central podcast.

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Bachelor Recap - Ep 9: Fantasy Suites with Megan Gailey

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Bachelor Recap - Ep 9: Fantasy Suites with Megan Gailey

"What is going on everybody? Welcome to another episode of the vow files batch through recap addition Well what an episode. Yeah what an episode and we have an even better episode. Recapping it for you. We have the very funny and charming Meghan Gaily with us. helped bet longtime Bachelor Fan L. E. N. Very funny comedian helps us. Break down this episode So I think you guys will enjoy that. Yeah before we get into that. I do have a bit of a story. I want to get the the. The opinion of our listeners was Milwaukee by the way Which is part of the story in people came up. I love the Pike and they. I'm a VI- fire via filers. The people were like trying to identify. What are we what are what are you know people people are were there? Trying to identify is is something I don't know but it was great. Thanks for thanks for listening. Thanks for saying hi so anyways. I'm home Wisconsin. Unfortunately I had to go back for a funeral. Bummer and sometimes with groups of friends this group friend drama. Yeah for sure right little fringe so one of my other. Good friends Great Friend Best Friend. has a wife And your best friend. Well it was my best my very hesitant to say best friend. My very best friend is that's the his is his father passed away. That's I don't know like another very good friend of glass as a wife as wife is without getting into the detail she's a lot younger Kind of always involved in drama. Always I mean she's been with with me or anyone else just. It's always something with her. She apparently doesn't get along whatever that means with My best friend and his wife. And that's whose father passed away so we are at the funeral. My friend came to support my other. Good friend His wife income didn't show up. No one was totally surprised. I was irritated. Because I'm just like really you couldn't even show up to pay your. You made your husband come by yourself and it made me wonder What people think out there when it comes to funerals and friends in like is it time to just set your differences aside and shove and pay respect or are in from my point pretty petty and Pretty Catty. But are there situations where were you? Don't WanNA show up because you don't get along with people who you might see at a funeral and I I was just like really irritated about it and I was like. You couldn't just set your differences aside or or do you think this performance to make you upset. Why do I I mean I didn't lose sleep over it but I was just like me again. She's caused other drama. But I thought it was just kind of petty and it just I'm not personally affected by it but I just wanted to like well. She justified and not coming not feel like she got along with The the family who whose father passed away. What would you think I think funerals are such a high intensity emotional time? Like I've gotten a lot of fights funerals actually and I know friends who have to because it's like the the height of I don't know there's just a lot going on so I just think maybe better avoid going and start something but why do you have to. That's why I asked the question. I just thought she. Would you go my condolences. Even if you're there for forty minutes she. Her husband ended up going by himself. Yeah and it was like you know what there's not also there wasn't like we don't go. Why don't they get along? Was there some crazy nothing? It's all silly silliness. It just seemed kind of a bummer. But I that was my question. I'm curious what the audience thinks. Is Our funerals a timer. We just swallow our pride and show our respect. Someone who passed away even. If it's like your enemy you know like can you just show up and there's no can? Yeah Yeah I feel like we should try to do that. No what have you got it in a funeral. Getting wild funeral. What my grandma's funeral I got in a violent. My sister like it was just like misplaced. Sure no yeah that make your sister. I'm missus yeah but not the time now. At the time wasn't about me you know that that was kind of my point. Just like this isn't about you or them it's just about like someone's father died and your husband is close enough with this person to come and pay respects and like you decided not to come to what like at to me. It only makes makes it worse. What what to me? I was like what a great opportunity to. Just you know. Bury the hatchet so to speak and common. Show your support love and now it all it ends up being as you know and then we went out that night you know. They went to the they went to the bucks game. Like she's clearly not sick. She went out and hung out like she was obviously clearly fallen interest. Kind of like it puts a bad taste your mouth. You'd be like Oh were you like why don't you come? I don't know this manifestation of that but maybe I'm wrong maybe other people have different points of view but I thought I would check in with the old The listeners see what they think anything else before we get to. Now I have my prediction of how I think tune for that. It's pretty good. I'm pretty sure nailed it very detailed and just hope that you didn't nail it just so I just don't want you to have the satisfaction of figuring it out but fair enough pretty sure unspoiled. I have this is all based on what I'm seeing as a Fan. I'd have no inside information but I'm he's trying to beautiful mind the season I am so i. Yeah lots of talk about. Obviously the situation at three dates the women living with each other and like I said Meghan gaily helps us break it down so without further Ado Megan gaily and fantasy suite recaps their gun new friend of show. I feel like I always our shows really taken off because everyone's seen the thera gun out there and now they've partnered with the vile foul. Of course they have I. I love it to Oregon. I've been using it a three and a half weeks now. Yeah I I need it. I have stiffness in my neck and my shoulders. I don't stretch stretch enough at I. I use it to before I work out to kind of warm up the muscle as it after I use it when I go to bed. I'm using it all the time now. It's great it's really helps me in my Tension and I had my my right side of my neck. volley different different settings. And they have this APP to like monitor. Like how you're using. It gives you a lot of information. And if you're thinking like well how can you do like your own back or your next? Actually I end. Yeah so that you can do it yourself someone. No let's make a good point because you would think that When doing it you're almost creating more attention by like holding it up. 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I'm a huge fan. I've called you dirty dog behind your back. We want to get into that. I because I think that you you've had an ARC. America has seen it and I wouldn't be here if I thought you were still dirty dog. Now I would be. I would be like. Let's get into it point. Where are the dirtiest of dogs? I think when you were like on the show as a contestant if that's what you feel okay contestant the term because people do win I like there's a sweeter. Did they get engaged? Well they won. They won jeopardy doesn't suitor. That seems to be sort of your peak dirty doggedness but I think as a bachelor you were actually pretty. You made all the you made the in the final choice that I wanted to to. I loved Vanessa Love Char. I'm not I actually met her in Montreal. She from her no from Canada. No I'm from Indianapolis which feels sort of Canadian. Ask Kind and nothing else. But she was at just for laughs at one of the after parties and no one knew who she was but I ran up and was like Oh my God. You're so beautiful gray opener and we chatted for a little bit and she only had nice things to say about you because I did ask this after we broke up. Yes after you broke up. And how long have you been watching the bachelor? I know I remember Tristan and Ryan but I wasn't allowed to walk like that wasn't something but I ju- I remember watching the very first episode in the entire season of Jesse Palmer. Vac you've watched ever since I've taken some off. I took you in a brown completely off. Oh Yeah is there a reason why there's two reasons one makes sense and one does not sure the first reason? I felt like she was really forced on us. Like it seemed like when they went to her to be on the season they were like. Hey if you don't win you'll be the Bachelorette it felt too. It just didn't feel the will of the people. I did not want her. I just don't understand why this is the girl they picked. And then when her season premiered it was kind of peak time politically in Alabama. Where something I did not like what's happening and I was like. I cannot hear roll tide one more time or I will strangle myself so I just for my own sanity took it off but then when I see her when I've seen her on Peter Season Ajoy I'm happy to watch her cry all of her makeup off and not wipe it so. I'm finding it was a good season. I know and I'm very attracted to a lot of those men I was you know about the windmill. Still kind of cultural lexicon was still bleeding in from it but I it was not appointment. Tv FOR ME. Do you think you'll ever go back and binge that I just have so much to what like. I've never watched breaking bad. Wow Okay I know so we authorities make. I've never watched mad men what I do think at some point I'll be on bed rest of some sort and I will go back and watch Hannah Brown and you have a you ever watched breaking bad. You have must feel good like it must feel good. Sometimes you know you have things to binge I've seen all of Jesse Palmer. I have my priorities as you should. I'm doing lined all of it. Yeah I love temptation island. I Love Trash TV. They call it. So how do you feel about this trash? Tv This season so far getting back. A Peter is almost like pre. Pugh bessant you like. He almost feel talking Personality or looks like he feels like a hot eighth grader to the point where like when I see his nipples. I'm like no no not for us. It's just I don't think he was a friend's boyfriend and I got introduced to him. I'd be like Okay and probably forget his name and just like you don't he's not gonNA cheat on you. I wouldn't have a lot of takeaways for him. He doesn't make me pitter-patter in any of the places but the season itself has been pretty dramatic and wild despite him okay. Do you end you in. Some people have been critical of the youth of the group. Had the the drama is too much for you or are you enjoying the trash because it's been trashier it is? His interest is very young in a way that makes me feel almost confused and obviously when these twenty four year old girls being like I want to settle down that they don't mean that I hope and you also have to look at where they're from and then when you meet their families you're like okay. Well this add some perspective to it. It does feel so young. And I think that doesn't bode well for Peter because it makes you get the impression that he's immature and wants a woman who does not like intellectually challenged him. Yeah I mean the bachelor. Is You know stuck hoping to find love with the women that other people pick for him so there is a layer of that every season every more the bachelor gets criticized for their choices. And it's kind of like what do you want me to do? And also a lot of it has to do with most of the time it's like they have their top few people and all the other choices that we criticize them for doing. They don't really care we don't care. I mean but didn't I feel like he liked Kelly but it just like physically never once he saw all these other crazy hot Babes. He was like. Oh Yeah I mean. The code thing is kind of interesting just because they had that connection and I think that's what's got him got her that far because there's a level of comfort there that you just meeting one night at a wedding when regardless if they'd just danced or they did more that's huge in that world because you're you have no comfort in a very awkward situation so to have some familiarity with. Anyone is a huge advantage. It's a huge event to go back to that hotel. I loved that I was like. Oh my God. I can't believe we're at the scene of the crime and that is yet. Because if you've been on a bad first day but then you go back to the place with the person and you're like you still have memory totally but I think eventually it just off it just kind of wore off at Peter is. He's a useful twenty right and. I think I really liked Peter This episode. I think he he finally started pushing back and ways. You didn't see you know whether you agree with him or not. He just was like. Hey I wanna be clear understanding you before. It seemed like he was really trying to please everyone and got him in trouble. I think he didn't do that this episode but he lives at home. I mean he's a sweet guy. I've gotten to know him. I think he's got a lot of character he's young and I think he's on the younger side of his age and I think that's kind of Nice good guy. That's why when I say like if my friend was dating him a book you've got nothing to worry about. He's a good guy he just doesn't like jump off the screen. And it's kind of crazy. Because we know that he has this like sexual prowess that was like his whole windmill thing going. On the Coleman Holton a virgin I was like he seems like he wants to rip some clothes. And you just like that impression from coal. Maybe that's just like about Colton shower. See Yeah Yeah. Yeah Yeah and I love I love a ballplayer and Peter. It's you know it's just like planes and play like I saw hotter pilot last week. Did You yes? There are some hot pilots. Peter just doesn't do it for you. He doesn't do it for me personally but he seems we don't have any shower this season. Did you notice Peter has like he? Has this trim? He's got a bod but he doesn't have ball now he doesn't Lusa shower bod even almost sort of like a runway ball. You know it's not like a it's like a thin trim audit. He's an author. It's totally in shape totally nice but you know it's like you're not no one's world is not stopping when the world stopped for that Virgin. Yeah but in person You I would like you to meet Coleman Peter in person okay for like a scientific experiment in terms of like just energy and and that people have you. Don't think Colin Sexy in person. He's just I know I could. I met the backstreet boys and I was like I know my favorite and then I was like totally in love with. Aj by the which. I never would have believed it and I saw a great looking guy but no I don't think there's some hearing way you're describing. I think I think you would Kudos to the show. 'cause THEY SOLD SEX SYMBOL ON. Colton did they. I think they did. The showers showers out of showers. All right well should we get into this. What we kick things off Wait we kick things off with Mattie at the end of the Rose ceremony sits Peter Down in kind of lays the groundwork of episode which will be all about fucking or the lack thereof or and she sits down and she doesn't really say anything Peter again for the first time. This season is kind of almost is he. He holds his ground so to speak. He knows what he's been waiting for literally. Just Victoria arose for the sole purpose of of having sex with your crafting. My style here. Mattie what are you do you really see his face like Oh God. I can't just have one week of peaceful sack with women. I'm going to break up with a but she you know she tells them she's so very careful about how she says it you know. I thought I I felt myself. I kept forgetting that. She had not told him that she was a virgin. She because we all know and so I kept being like well he knows as Wanna point out and she never said she was a virgin. She said she's saving herself for marriage. She did say that. Which could mean born again doesn't necessarily I don't know I'm guessing and she's a virgin but I find it unique That every other time we've had a virgin. You hear the word version over and over and over until E. Sei Colton with her more. Saving myself calling wasn't saving himself. He just didn't get around to IT member. He was just too busy playing football. Just I'd right. I'm assuming she's a virgin but I noticed that never ever says she's a virgin but you're right. We kind of assume that he knew. Yeah and he's just sitting there like what is she. I mean she's in this like Diana. Ross jump sue which was beautiful trying to tell me to have sex with anyone outside of this airplane. Hangar and he he I think I think she showed her age in that by almost just not being able to articulate to a partner what she was expecting of them and then I think he just seems so confused and bummed out and as the episode goes on my feelings. Something I got choked up. I was trying to swallow some air my feelings towards her kind of soften because she does sort of get to the point at the end where she let me explain what I meant. Yeah we'll go to. Yeah I I've I've points of view. I didn't think I necessarily would after watching it. But Yeah so she tells Peter. Don't fuck anyone but that's not what I'm saying. Like I understand why he is. Berry conflicts interesting format like Shaun. I've talked about this. We relate I mean I relate to madison in that moment specially if I think back to twenty-three-year-old I grew up in a very traditional Catholic household. Rachelle she saving yourself want hometowns. It was kind of an awkward situation because it was Maddie's parents being like does he know your choices Mattie. Both our parents reminding for other choices that she's made in her own right so into it. Hits clearly a family decision down attitude all and talks about how she's on national television and there's a lot of pressure to live up to the expectations of her own things and her parents and she's in a tough spot. So I I'm I'm not critical of necessarily Mattie. A lot of people have started making comparisons of the will you watch. But there's this guy named Luke P he he showed up literally thirty seconds into the season saying how he met God in the shower after fucking all through college and now he's now he's decided to save himself. It was kind of like a really. It sounded grows and it was just like. Oh good for you that you had to have all this sacks and now you've decided to not avert and so and then fast for the season it was a lot of like gas leading hand on a lot of shaming and it just. It came across so like hypocritical and weird. This is a very different. Let's assume she's a virgin and she's just trying to like you know do her thing and just kind of say what? Hey this is the relationship I want. I agree too. I wanted to like be angry with her not angry. I just was like come on girl. Like don't let your dad control but then and I didn't feel that the only thing I I did and obviously it's not her fault that they cast her but it is like you know this has come up like you know this going on American idol and being like. I don't want to sing live. It's like well this show sure I mean I have points on that when we get into Madison. But it's not. You never know yeah. You don't know how you're going to get that and you don't really even know what it's what you're going to feel the structure of the show and you're not even thinking that far you don't necessarily know if you'll get that far. It is interesting because I think of Madison and Hannah and at least in their upbringing and sort of like their persona is very similar. Identical being like southern morals. Sweet pretty girls and then you have one of them being like very strong in her stance and Hannah and it's an event and Hannah Brown kind of did this colts to where it's like. Listen I'm a southern woman with values but like I have? I have with the devil. Madison's family is very like she's she has a great family but also a little to not say too close. I'm not here to criticize her family dynamic but it's it's a bubble it's a bubble. It's clearly a bubble. It's a bubble within the family. It's an above within the whole college community. It's you know. My parents were like that. Too very protective. They wanted us to be. Have this perfect life. That was their approach and Cornell Madison. She like I watched this episode thinking you know whatever whether I agree with Madison or not. She has a lot of character. And I've been hard. I'm asked him with the whole Internet thing in in. You know I can empathize with those decisions. But I think she has a lot of character and I think she has a conviction on her. You know and that's a great thing to have hands. Dad watched it what I didn't ask out there so yeah so now we're in Australia. And the producers. The devils at they are have decided to stack the dates perfectly. Not only that. Well that's that's easy but they've decided to have these women live together which shot. That's that's evil. I mean I love the my my producers friends and They're not setting up Peter for success. Now I cannot believe. This is the first time they've done it because at this point it's it's it's about it. They want they do want great. Tv But they want love. They want love to happen and the fact that they are doing that is making it harder for it to happen. The more competition. It's more competition because now it becomes again. It's still there making it more about the women and the potential drama within the the House and then more drama with Peter and past seasons. You've had the drama and now it's about the lead figuring it out you know and these women are trying to get on board with engaged this person and so for them to do that it. It really kind of stunts. That and there's there is such a time warp in that world where every day feels like a week and every week feels like a month and kind of your competitors during this later extra emotional time and also the added layer is Victoria and and know that Mattie took Peter and had this conversation but have been what they've had no idea and she's not really she's like I just had to like get some things off my links to it could have been like Peter. Wait for the fantasy suite like they just don't know or you know maybe she told him. I've Exxon I hope that you never really know. Don't you think Hannah and new? I feel like she might have told him. And I'm I'm sure they suspected right. I am sure that you know these little. The girl chats that they're having you know it's not like Victoria APP is like I'm GonNa go sit out in like drill mad at the Madison or Hannah and saying this now. Hey we should. That's what you do take us all together. I have all day like think. 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Virginia lovers I duNno I kinda left I had nothing nothing to see here and also like poor Pete like this one. You're almost like now that they're living together. One comes back and then one is like okay. I gotta go get ready. And you're like Damn Peter like even exhausting. I'm curious how they do that because I didn't ask but usually there's a day off okay so you have some sacks faking mute a break we'll not faking it so he needed break we also. It's like all night long. I mean necessarily everyone's always having sex that law. You're talking or like you don't really get private time until like one or two in the morning right and so they're going to wake you up at like eight or nine so so whether it's sex or talking like you're maximizing that alone times you're just exhausted to have peter be able to like. Let's go on a date again after you've had no sleep not to mention most of that next day is talking about your date. All these interviews. It's like oh well like today of Australia Australia. So my guess is is that they probably quarantined like after the days. Hanane and like does her you know last night with Peter was amazing and last night this in same thing and then maybe the next day they insert the girl I don't. I don't know the gist of it but came back and like a cute little peasant top looking fresh as a daisy. So she probably had my Thanh my guesses. She had a day with those girls where she laid out which they notice she probably laid out. Well she probably later Peter. She probably did all her like talking about her date for and then they probably brought her in right win. Say Victoria had a gallon her. That's my guess just so we could see the Turner. Yeah well just just so you can see the awkwardness. Just so and that was probably real. These girls aren't actors in the sense that they probably saw like you. You Insert you'll give just enough time for it to be awkward and not enough time to figure out exactly what went on and create but when Victoria came only Hannah and they were like you look really thin. They're doing the fat wait when Victoria came back date. I'm just talking about around. What could they do these classic hot girl compliments? You Look Tae on. You look thin like it's just like. I don't really I don't want to say anything. That's actually like tangible to who you are a person but like you do look thin you know. And then maybe they're saying like you look thin to be like. Oh Yeah Up. All haven't eaten like trying to get got a lot of exercise really funny compliments that there. It's it is so. I couldn't imagine what that would have been like had you inserted like let's say Sean and Caitlyn. Oh my God you know. What am I going to start really? They're definitely playing with fire doing this. But I was happy to see if anything I was like. Cut to them a little more like. What's going on the House? Cut To all of a sudden. Just like fighting fish whatever ripping each other's hair off Hannah and Hannah an has this she is. She has her game face on she is. She is here to win she. Everyone's she. You know every you know jet skiing. It's Cute I love how Peter China like. Sell it like He was like. Oh so you ever skis just well. We are about to go jet skiing like it's the price is right reveal. I was sad for her. I'm like Hannah. An has jet skied before. She lives wherever she let. There's lakes there there's rivers we're verse Rivers Lakes rivers reservoirs. She's I felt she got. She got low balled on that date. Just Jet Ski in knowing. Oh you don't WanNa know I WANNA Yacht Sundberg? You see sick you get sick you sit there the outside. It's just a lot of L. Please name this episode. That yacht suck it all. Looks good but in a jet skis. Find for things. Weren't going fast enough. A Fun twenty minute thing. I don't know yeah no one really you just you just want to get to the. I don't sense sexual chemistry from them. You don't now when they're rolling in the sand. I I think what you're saying is true. I think Anna's sort of like playing while she. She starts crying when she's like. I don't know if she was like if this was this fall on her being like I know people exit cryer. So I'm going to tell him. It's okay to have sex with as much as people as you want for free while shedding a single tear as she's trying to muscle her like understanding towards Peter Situation hated that I'm here. I'm here for you no matter what. I'm your friend because it almost also felt like in addition to who you have sex with like if you also break up with me. I'M GONNA be here for you to help you through what you need which I have said to a boyfriend before and fully did not mean. There's no way I wanted to kill this. Do you think I mean all jokes? Aside I think a think Hannah an was being really vulnerable and muscling through that and didn't mean it like she doesn't want him doesn't mean course he knows. That's what Peter like. Wow would like respecting someone being like. Wow they really care for me. They won't sweat he. She's playing she's she's playing it well and. I don't think it's as much about Peter. I think she's watched Hanna Hanna. Bc's it or you know and this whole like it was the reverse of American being like well. You know what you signed up for and you have to be okay with this and I think she's trying to be the understanding woke. You know a woman. Does she know Maddie's taking the other route so she's like. I'm going to cover this that. Definitely that element where it's definitely Victoria. F Hannah ad versus Madison. I mean they all seem to get along. But there's definitely this we're going to be understanding and you're going to you're GONNA go different paths. Mattie you know But she did not want to say it it was like it was sad and accorded sweet all the saved. I've made it made me made me kind of like Hannah and a little bit more a little bit more this like watching it now it. It was awkward his speech postures really funny to me sitting like I. It's it's those moments. I get defensive of Peter or it's just like I can't read how many times I'm on these dates and just like how do I put on the Internet have said I have ugly knees. I have sat on things and people have ridiculed. It's like you got to watch the playback Peter. This is not a good concave chest. Look for you. Yeah when I see them rolling around on the sand I just don't feel it. I do heaters yeah. He kissed her hand twice. That we saw. It's just I I don't I. I mean she's obviously so beautiful she's like a classic Disney Star. Pretty and he's obviously very very attracted to her. I think she's like playing the game to try and be the Bachelorette thinks she's out of this I think she's going to win. I actually have. I have a very detailed theory of how I think. The recipes gray D- yeah so anyway so now they go to the fantasy suite She she's just like I'm I'm here for you. There's a scene where they lie in the bed and she has her her legs like locked very awkward. Actually to your point of maybe lack of sexual chemistry. I don't know also that door. The warrior talk with the hand and wonder if that's actually them. I I was wondering the same thing or were they like. Hey we got to get the shot and you put your answers. Maybe but like yeah. Here's what here's what they're producers aren't doing. They're not like go take a shower and have sex film. That's not happening okay. Like that's not lose two okay. Great Mark I mean. They do things differently every season navy but my experience third level of privacy. They're not like saying. Hey go go. Football does hang around. That door is so specific to be like we can see people are hooking up. But we can't see who it is could be any hotel. Has that door? Titanic I mean it was a it was like it was very shocked some and seen setting that went into have a door that kind of operate in the door on this rumor in out could do it. I absolutely think sexual chemistry or whatever we think they actually absolutely had sex. I think they had tax. I mean when Hannah and is talking to Mattie know her like offended nece but what Matt issues like. I'm literally physically recovering from all night of Peter. Just having his way with me and I I have Peter. Stink and I feel like almost judged. Actually it's the judgment of like show. I think she feels like Mattie is talking down to anyone that would have sex with her and now it has sex with him and obviously she's in that camp now. She's being defensive. Peter Herself I. I didn't think that Mattie was talking down I think she your. It's a such a tough position to be in because she is. My guess is manny had no interest in talking to Hannah about her point of view. It's just like she's forced to you. Know they get You know and so. She's like yeah. This is what I said to Peter no judgment in just because Hannah and feels judge doesn't mean they mattie was judgment perception because I had had sex with someone and then the other girl who's dating him was like I can't like he better don't have sex with anyone ever like. I'll go to a higher standard like it comes across as condescending and judgement. Oh but I don't know Mattie actually is like good at not feeling that way. I like the episode liking. Matty really laugh it. Yes the hand really laughing at some of Victoria fs like takeaways from it. let's let's let's next day. Yes Victoria F. What today's they went they went. They did something. He did some day helicopter and then they went to the waterfall. And she said we haven't even thought and you're like Oh Jesus funny I love how Peter Opens up the day and says I have an amazing relationship. Retore the only thing we don't do well as communicate which is like I don't know maybe the biggest thing of any relationship I mean. It's I've said another episodes like I joked because it's clearly a very immature in what we see from the show a toxic relationship. It's a relationship that I know very well and in my twenty s a idea. This peter is a fighter and we confuse like fighting for what we believe in is defending things that are toxic in our lives. He thinks they have passion. And you know you're you're just like not compatible in communication and she acknowledges it too. I mean you can go back to that group date where Victoria F is and lingerie and like seeing paid. Peter's face see her. It's like she's in. You know like he is hot for her. Yeah and then then fighting and then having this thing it totally makes sense and I also think it's something Peter Maybe has experienced a lot of and it's just so different than the other two girls also. Actually I I kind of disagree with that has got to know Peter Little Okay. I don't think I don't think his ex girlfriends have maybe been as aggressive in. Like she's Victoria has verb like hot. Her highs and lows are drastic. I think Peter's Samore us to that than like kits. Not his first girlfriend. Who's made him jump over jump through hoops so to speak and I think he is very that the jumping through hoops realize that and I think part of it is. He likes to do that. He likes to feel like I'm proving. My rider give and again. We get very confused when we're younger of like what's actually healthy way to do that. And not and so. I don't think this is the first time peters had to jump through hoops for love and I think that's where you see this attraction of other than the physical attraction. That's where you see him doing this. I mean it makes a lot like oh we had this patch in the way he talks about it. It's just like yeah. It's very easy to judge him. But I'm listening and being like it's it's embarrassing but like that was me that did that we we all can see ourselves in in this relationship and and there's almost part to where. Victoria F was kind of the least willing to tell him what he needed to hear in terms of. I'm falling for you or whatever and I think some of his like being so into her is kind of A. She feels like she has the upper hand in their relationship to me in a way. That's very strange for him. Being the bachelor and her being a Otr she yeah. I don't know where it comes from but you're right she doesn't this maybe it comes from her inability to control her emotions. I don't know but she doesn't know. Yeah she when she feels. She just doesn't says it at her own detriment most harm yes. It's almost in a weird way. Worked to her advantage. Whether whether you know the people are debating whether she's like this was all calculated or this Wacko. I mean that that atmosphere so insane that I have a hard time believing she would go at mass many. She didn't know that they were going to do that with the musician. I'm the I'm not defending it. But like I think she's just highly emotional and they've never done that before Bra An- EXPEC as a performer would have but the opportunity never presented so if I was on and they were like you're going to go to a comedy show. I'd be like no nope. Nope NOPE Nope I gotta go home. Got a piece in Q. I thought Victoria was going home night. One I thought her like her. She's only thing is I was like. What like hearn Kelsey felt like classic night one. I'm going to have a meltdown and fall in the pool and go home and then they they were in it for the long haul or grooved me wrong. What do you? What do you think of victorious explanation of why she as she says the way she is? God what did I don't even feel like it was articulated clear enough. He'd like who don't understand everything she said that I was like really. She's just like this is just who I am. Ex- bad axe who didn't I watched the whole number. Basically the way she described but yeah he what she said. She's like he didn't. He never asked me about my emotion. Oh yes I am so when you asked me I feel like okay. This is this is why I didn't remember it. Because it's like Yeah Bitch we've all had xs like that like if you have exit who I don't even want to have a hip relation. They had braked. You know like I have stated multiple men who do not trust to like watch a broom. So it's we've all been through things and that doesn't give you. I don't i. Don't even think her behaviors been that crazy. It just seems in the context of the show. If someone behaved like her you'd be like Oh goodbye like he doesn't have to necessarily put up with it. Any is ano- in a weird way. Where like the thing? I don't relate to Peter in for my experiences. He seems like he act when he says. I'm in love with three women. It's like I actually believe in versus like at this point for me. I'm just trying to get through. I'm just trying to survive. It's an impossible week but Peter Peter's trying to get through it by. Oh someone doesn't want me to have sex with anyone I'm definitely going to have sex with everyone And how do I do this? One of them. I only kept to have sex with so I have to have sex with her but I don't know the way the way. Peter is Victoria on this date like it sounded like it is watched and I watched it twice where it's just like he's just like don't don't run with. Victoria's like don't run from me like don't push me away and I'm thinking I'm pretty sure you wanNA break up with her and each day right so it's more like he really is just like present on these dates in like not and I think long term which is I could. Yeah that was hard for me to do so he. He seems like he's very present on these dates and then it's kind of wild. I mean like it's I don't I don't have an. I think he's sending story FM. And I don't think that that's bad. But that could also come across not great for him that he's kept this volatile woman and then I guess anyone you sent home after a C. Suite. It's like you had sex with them and then send them home. That would really even though does happen to all of us to but that would really like be demoralizing for the public to know I think yes but you also keep in mind that when Peters doing this how it plays out in real time he has no idea how it's going to be perceived from a show standpoint. He doesn't know how like he doesn't know what people are. GonNa think of any of these women he doesn't know how like he certainly is aware. Certainly is aware that Victoria after even have a hometown and what that might be what that might look like. But I don't think you know that was me I was I I had a bat. Hometowns is the worst because meeting all the parents but I I'd been on that I had done three seasons did paradise and I was. You know I'm a I'm an analytical person to begin with so I was constantly in my head about what people are. GonNa think they're going to think about it but again also per for better or worse. I I was pretty much pot committed Vanessa. So everything else was going to meet the parents and be as respectful as possible but not say too much and not say anything like if for example if Hannah and was on my season right now and so is Vanessa. And then Hannah and was don't don't do. I would like cool Bro. I won't say that you know like I'm not going to say I'm falling because like Peter believes it. Falling in love means something and it doesn't mean anything he's not when you're in love with three people at the same time falling love right but also you called. Andy out for the thing so you were in a position where you had to kind of not do that right. What do you mean 'cause you got? You are upset with her right well. Upset owes more just why yeah heartbroken. Y- confused so you didn't want to do that to the women the same well. It was what I what meant when I was the bachelor I was at that point. The two time runner up and so I even said this. I don't know if they aired it but I knew that I would relate more to the women who took second or third than I would to the winner. It's the only thing I literally haven't done in that world is to have one and so I was very careful about the things I said and didn't say and I wanted like specifically with Raven I wanted when you're in that bubble I knew that Sh- you know she might be falling and she might be heartbroken but I was. It was important to me that once I broke up with her that like as she process all the things that went as she played it back. There was never something. I said that she goes. Yeah but he said this he did that and I don't get why he would say that I. I was very careful because I wanted her to be like you know what kind of and honestly like. I'm pretty sure she. She knew based off of the things that a conversation we had. But it's also it's also hard. It's hard peterson. A tough position because gives the only one with the expectation to have this work the pressures on him to get engaged. Not anyone else did you ever. Were you ever like buzzed on your season from alcohol. Yeah I'm not a big drinker so I was pretty stressed and I don't. I just feel like I would get drunk and be like I love you. I would go up to a deep love you. I love you someday. I love you and I love you. I mean you see a lot of the. I'll tell your parents the women from this season like them. Kelsey like yeah. Kelsey has alcohol induced as the actual Bachelor Bachelorette like getting drunk and then having loose lips being like. I love every like if I was high and bring them all to me. Let snuggle I love all my boys not as much. I mean not not for me. Everyone's different this is why I wouldn't be on it. I married to but my husband said I could do it okay. I think he thinks that. Make good TV Victoria F. Yeah so she comes back when she's crying with her dress addresses tissue did you. I mean again I did did you. Did you roll your eyes when she when she put him through so much or was there any empathy after all however at least aware that she's been freely they have been on an emotional roller coaster and like I think Victoria. Maybe the type of person who does things and then has remorse for them not even that she's done anything that bad but I don't think she's like void of being like that was a doozy crazy as fuck apologizes over and over which is annoying. Yeah and you don't think the way. She reacted Peter when he brought up. The cheating was bad. No I mean I think this breaking up marriages. This wasn't who she is You know that that's why it's almost just like even crazier that. He's Kelsey hit the road. Okay Wow this. Black widow is staying. I mean that's the thing. It's just the detention and release the way she's doing Peter Falling for it from. I've done it like you. You go crazy and you like you in its in its gas leading totally and and it's just like. Oh what did I got notional new wrong? And then she comes back and then she sorry than she's fighting and then it feels like it's that kind of makeup say sat in a way and so that's how I mean. Yeah MAKEUP SEXIST. Very powerful also. That's kind of what's what's going on. So now we get to the meat of the episode which is all about Mattie. Yeah well because there's that scene where Madison and Hannah aunt or no. I mean betray F and Hannah and Hannah. Kind of filling Victoria in Victoria. F is like I'm like Matt. It's like to be like a mad. You know what you need to have sex with him are mad on behalf of Peter yes how much he's saying but it's like crazy to be mad on him. Yeah No. It's weird because I I probably watching this episode related more to Mattie Than Than Hannah and Victoria definitely did not relate to Victoria like if anything Victoria F sh should be like yes mattie. Go girl don't have sex with. I think that also just kind of shows. Victoria isn't really doesn't have deep feelings for Peter said this to when she was crying when she says Hannah and seems less like angry and more just like why did I think you're right. You're right. Victoria is more like yeah mad. He he's GonNa fuck you and you're gonNA like testimony. She's just like un- that's just like so unfair to Peter. He thought he was going to have sex with three girls. And now he's only going to have yeah. He had to fly to a whole different hemisphere. And the toilets vins another way and Mattie needs to have sex with him. I don't know imagine it's a basketball. Whatever you gotta do girl but like he deserves this you're right. She definitely did that. And he's just like I have a wound on my head. I'm doing the best I can like. Did he get a concussion? Busy fine so yeah so matty calms they do something they want us. Bridge Bridge Free Cool. She is leading him like I was like watching like Peter get in front of her a bunch of metaphors about like the challenge relationship. Sometimes the wind is wins against you and a very dramatic musically all leading to what we've been waiting for is kind of confrontation about Mattie knowing Peter's head Saxon wants to hopefully hear that he hasn't tags peer knowing that she's GonNa ask me if he's had sex here knowing I'm GONNA have to admit I've had sex. And what is bad he do about this. She's like I don't any details. I don't even know position but I just need to hear penetration or not. So what what did you? What did you ladies think again? This is all very in the grey of you. Know we're in two thousand and twenty six positive. It's our own bodies we can do it. We want when it was when I know you didn't watch but one was Hannah be was she's having sex she you know but it was different weekend with Lupi but it was very much in our empowering and you can't tell me what to do with everybody and there are some parallels here and it didn't all go down the same way so like what did you guys think I thought Mattie sort of like speech she gives him a because Peter's I just like this is you can't ask me and she's like okay but like I have sacrificed X Y and Z. I never know that that would like to be able to do. And I've done it because I care for you and I did think that was a very good ended up a little choked useful. I mean the music. It was all very good. It was great TV and I thought she she marries me. She was very eloquent. Yes and and had conviction and I just it made me really like her absolutely Because you I I saw. When she was doing it it she could just. She was filled with so much emotion. Anger confusion sadness in like and she was still trying to talk away and again like she was saying. I want trying to put myself in your shoes because like she is really struggling. Because here's what's interesting about this like this for all. The people are like well Madison. You knew what you signed up for it. She didn't right and so this is Madison's point of view when she's like giving. This speech is medicine like a lot of people before her and sometimes to every season thinks she in her and Peter's relationship is way ahead of everyone else and her mind right or wrong. She feels because again. She's not seeing the details of all these other relationship. She's like Peter not have something different. We have something special so even when she pulls him aside after the hometown rose ceremony she sang this to him is like. I know like you have to do what you have to do. And you're just trying to get to the end but we have something special and I just need to let you know because this is going to be us at the end. She speaking from this like you said like Peter's my boyfriend and he is a surviving this. She's not the first person to have this point of in fact it's every other season like. Why do you think every time the end of the season on the cover of people magazine? It's I knew they were always the one kind of thing in half the time. That's true and half the time it's the lead telling the person who won what they wanna hear. Because how else do you think? People are wrapping their brain on the crazy idea of getting engaged at the end. And that's because they think their relationship is the only real one amongst the sea of bullshit. She makes a very compelling argument to when she frames it in the time. She's like I think it's kind of crazy to ask me to get engaged to someone who had sex with two women a week ago and and he has like a rebuttal but you almost see those three days and you have to give her credit because she is very young and and in some ways not naive but has lived in this bubble. She took those three days and like prepared like she was going to debate team. She later tation had her stance in it wasn't preach it was just like it's. I'm not even telling you not to do this. I'm just telling it like it's hard for me and you feel for her and I'm sure you can speak to this. They had this intense conversation and then he's away from her for five days. She can't text ten that's why she had it. Then because I mean my guess is it was. She was made aware of the fact that we don't know when you're going to have this date but this will be the last time you see him before and he may or may not have had other dates. It is wild that this is the first time that Peter is learning. You like see his face learn that she is saving herself. And he's like I mean I you didn't see it but after it was the same for me on both Andy and Caitlyn season after specifically Andy Season why. I had the first fantasy suite. We wake up that morning and it was a great night except for that morning. I JUST. I was like in my gut. I was like you're going to have sex with Josh. I just yeah I just. I just felt that she didn't say it was implied. And here I am thinking. I think you're going to pick me. I really love you. I'm supposed to stay in. This is the time. We're at a P purchasers. Don't really present engagement. There's no talk of it. They know how insane but towards the end. That's when they're like me Elaine. How you feeling like we're where are you at? You think you could do this. You know and you're thinking and then you actually start thinking about the crazy possibility of from guys point of view getting down to one year or proposing. You're just like I guess I don't know I really love and this is crazy. But I think she's going to have sex with another guy and I spent the whole like it was me and lake three producers and I honestly it was like listen I get it I get the show I understand and I'm not telling you what she can or can't do but like hot. Do I get engaged to someone and it was more like. Listen if she ends up having sex with a guy. I'm I'm fine with like I can. Maybe I guess you can get over it but I don't know if I can get engaged. I dislike why. How do I get engaged? I would rather just like maybe reset and so okay. That was a whole day of conversations of going back and forth with the producers trying to wrap my brain around this like well how can I this? A man who had more life experiences had lived more of a life than Mattie to. Madison is in this crazy show. But it's this is real life for these people like they are seeing past like they realized totally delusional like in two weeks. This is going to be done and I ended up with Peter. We're going to be in the real world. That's what I thought of and it's just like I just need to be able to like make my own decision here. I need to be able to if I'm going to do this. I need to like be able to respect my choices. And it's just like for all the people who are going to be criticized Madison or anyone. Who position like unless you're into an open relationship which is cool like this is no different than anyone else because the way madison articulated. So I. It's it's so interesting to that. They keeping like. It's an ultimatum ultimatum. Like that is just like such a bad word to women because like I think of women thinking of ultimate you always hear girls be like well. She gave her boyfriend ultimatum that they had to get married engaged whenever that happens. People like well then they shouldn't. It's like sometimes. Unfortunately it's not an ultimatum. I think she's just saying like I will emotionally not be able to get past that and I'm walking away like she's almost breaking up with him just out of her own sadness and like she knows her parents are watching this her. Dad's how your basketball team watch? There's so many layers win is going ahead. And he's already done it. And that's the argument against mass. It's like you knew the whole. It was the the windmill everyone knew. Peter had sex before the car but that doesn't necessarily mean Madison again. That were Madison. Goes to Peter. She was saying like listen. I have no lesions that you. You're you're not saving yourself and I'm fine with ending up with a guy who's not saving him up. She's not saying that she's simply saying listen. If what we have Israel if Israel is I believe it to be. I just want to know that I'm worth it to you to like not have sex with other people which in any other dating situation which would be totally normal request and Peter's like sorry. It's what's interesting 'cause I only said with Vanessa. Right like wow. I didn't know that I mean and that from I knew I was going to pick her and I wanted to try to make a relationship work so it was. When you didn't have sex with other girls they were like oh it was. It was a tough week to try to go through that and hope that they wake up so thinking. There's a chance my my what I said to them was. I'm not having sex with anyone. I don't need to have sex to like know that physical connection on Etcetera Etcetera. What what are they fought hot for each other but yeah but outdoor hot tub? But I'll say this much if I I my gut tells me that have the sex wasn't a big focal point of the season. They didn't didn't make it a like the time but if let's say let's say they did. Raven the girl who only had sex with one person at that point. Then Rachel I guarantee you they would have been the Hannah Victoria off in the situation in Vanessa by no means was saving herself but if Let's if Vanessa I broke up but if an asset I if an ESA would have found that I had sex with anyone else. I don't think we would have made it to the ball. Yeah I think probably what Dooms Win Win Win? Win Ben and Laura broke up. Whether or not she. She referred to the fact that he had sex with Joe. Joe Like it's not the first time like Josh. And Andy Sean Lynn. That's a mind. Fuck Oh yes sean. Never got over that. Never it's medicines that the missile right Victoria who are now like rooting for peterhead. It's like you're okay. You know like they don't know Hannah and does not know how she's going to. Maybe she doesn't thought or she's also being the cool girl like whatever you need. Peter. I know. I'll be up here with Kleenex. I'll be crying Russo like handing in you may if you end up being the one as you think she is and he's had sex with Victoria. F that may come back to really really make you very upset and you're going to be looking at Madison like Oh yeah girl. You arrive bearing a lot. She's she hurt Mehanna. Ends Focus is winning. I think I don't think it's the bachelor because in fairness you're so deep at this point you're not really thinking about being the Bachelorette you really Because your emotions you don't think she could be a little bit. No no I heard. I heard yesterday that they've chosen the Bachelorette and it. It's not someone from the season. Who did you hear from you? Heard IT'S T. I heard St. There's no who'd you hear that from? I mean a man person you trust with this person have any have a this person like wouldn't even like necessarily know allegedly because like in my dreams but then when I go in I think Kelly I would wanna see Kelly but Kelly doesn't want to do this. She didn't let her go to the women. Tell you didn't let her go. Let her she came out here for it. What do you mean not let her go? You don't do know the details Nick because she wish you knew at that doesn't make sense. That's what makes it means. I'm now happened definitely happy. You don't you don't. You're not top six a fan favorite parts and he met before had not necessarily confrontation with the women. What was like head opposing points of view of women relying how to start and fact? I was looking forward to play a hometown because of the way she left which is kind of like mocking the rest of the women which a lot of people agreed with. America kind of agreed with her and I thought it had been a really interesting dynamic to have her. There are why she wasn't. There is not normal. My yeah I maybe it's because they feel like she was like true critical. Who knows but it's there was a reason to look at the crew that this like and there's been lawyers and it a look there's educated Rachel's brilliant there's very smart like successful women on this but if you look at Kelly situation and the young young girl she's surrounded by it's not crazy for Kelly to be like do says you like rugrats like give me out of here yeah you think she broke something in the contract or something. I mean everyone break something in the contract. It's not yeah it's it's it was definitely a a lawyer too. It's like maybe there's like a legal. I mean her dad is like when I was watching. Kelly was like families rich. That's like one of my favorite sub games to play like their families rich. And then you go to the house and you see an but Lonzo ball something like Kelly saying. She wasn't invited to this. Wasn't Kelly opting out. Because that's the first you can't. They can't force you to go. I mean it's in your contract to go but if you like refuse ago they'll just move on do things like this. Where like the the production as a whole is like this'll make this person look good and it's like you have missed the pulse of America because I hear that and I'm like patches and makes me like Kelly Moore and already she was already my favorite. Yeah by excluding her from you know who? I don't what city they wanted more drama with the women. They thought they wanted to. I don't know who knows how interesting James so you think. I think Madison. I mean they're obviously setting it up. That Madison is the winner. So I so. Here's what I think happens crate. I think man. I'm not entirely sure but like what happened next. And my my guess is Madison recused herself. She leaves the show leaving it down to Victoria. F When did she leave? That's what I'm not sure of. But in the preview they show her not their plea coming in the preview. They imply but could be like literally walking over the hill. What if that is the case? Then I think Victoria I think Taraf is GonNa think she's just late two zero hold her back for like drama and hair and make-up's like we're doing when it's down to those three like yeah they could bring out. Henna an wait ten minutes for him and just standing there bring up Victoria. Quick Twenty like don't mind gain weight maybe case good physical you know and then yeah especially now. You have had an Victoria F standing there. Let's talk for twenty minutes. You'd never know it. See what if anything comes out okay? We're F- goes home. And then they go about it and they're setting it up like Madison just like can't get over it and leaves and then so you. Here's what I think happens medicine eventually at some point leaves whether it's before after Victoria Chris Harrison says before you do what you. Can you know an so madison? Has she's like she can't get to it and now. Peter's with Hannah and but because Madison leaves it fucks Peter up because she leaves and it's not his call at always Fox us all out. Cassie sure like a cassie. But even in life like you know when we think we're going to break up with someone breaks up with those first. We realized I love. You can only so. There's a little bit of that right. So Peter is like torn up about the Madison. He's feeling regret. Should I have not have done this? That I just have sex and now he's just focused on mass and meanwhile Hannah Atas feeling like she's being made aware of this Madison left. Which FUCKING UP MATT A hands? It's like what the fuck like. Why not why not me as a result of Peter? I think he's actually ready to propose a hint here. Peter comes around he comes around is like Hannah has been my rock. She's always been there for me. She let me sex. She could have anyone she cries on. Cue by the way I just wanted to point out Every girl cried on every date on the fantasy so you week this episode like I don't remember like everyone just has figured out like everyone cry So like yeah. Madison's it's me. It's me right. Before Peter's proposing Harrison comes out. And it's just like hey you got something to tell. You Insert Madison. Who's like I know? What Peter I realized I love you and I wanNA to try this. He comes back fucks up Peter even more meanwhile hands like what the Fuck Ya right. And don't let him go. Don't let her go and Peter Realizing I just fucked up and Peter apologizing in these previews and because he's like he realizes it's not mad because he comes back and Peter's like you know what I hear he's confused at first but still wants to be with Hannah and but he's at he. He almost fucks it up. He almost like she almost makes hand. And 'cause there's a there's a sow avoidance Hannah and it's something I don't forget what she said it's just like I've been. I've been the rock the whole time. I WANNA feel like I'm loved and Blah Blah Blah and. I think she's is kind of like what the fuck like. Why are you like? You're chasing too hot for this. Yeah and then. I think he's apologizing to and and he sends Manna home and Peter's with Hanane wow and then with Mattie you think he does. I'm really now this theory. I really like that. You've presented to us with that on your own well and it's almost kind of unspoiled when you're number like we have learned that. Peter does like a little bit of drama. You Know He. He is attracted to that like. It's almost like Victoria. F leaves and then not that Mattias dramatic but like this give and take and tug and pull that almost just steps right into Victoria APPs shoes and he picks up that is as passionate as fighting. What is happening? Why is my head still busted open? So they're they're it's. I still think it's going to be Hanna Hanna. Because otherwise otherwise they're setting it up. Part of it is then. It's too obvious that Peter has been like no one's going to spoil this area so crazy no one and no one does know and like Madison leaving because she doesn't want to have sex and then come back and Peter choosing him as kind of like what you've presented has too many moving parts to be able to nail it down. Which is a spoiler. Yeah I think that's what happened check. I hope leaders Mama's happy eaters. Mom Yelling is like the Colton fence. Jump here. We are like give it it to us. Who is it? What's it going to be a media and bizarre season? Victoria doesn't have a hometown. Madison seemingly doesn't have an overnight. Now which is I actually thought that was crazy again. We don't know if that's what she's walking away and ends maybe the maybe they don't. It's imply that you not definitely not but like also why not. She's not at this point she's not going to go hang out. You can't even look. He's G I don't even yes. She's not going to sleep in and that she doesn't you a lot them early and Howard act like some her release harder. Let's go talk. Let's off camera. Let's go talk it out in the fantasy something. Why wouldn't you take advantage of this? Only opportunity to have this like literal private time to like have a real conversation so madison. Who's trying to be polished and trying to always worry about? Her parents think she can go in this room. And just close the doors and be like what the fuck and like you know what I'm saying. She can just Victoria APPs. You can go Victoria F on Peter and you would think that she would take advantage of that situation because Madison. You can tell how she has bite. She her competitive nature her like you. Don't become a high school state champion by being super demure. All the time I think at this point though she may not even want the image of her going into a hotel room in the viewership like she made us feel like I for my own sanity of no one can ever say well. We don't know like I just don't even want them to have that shot. You're probably let she. She should talk to him. They should take all the time that they can't love is blind. They're just leaving on the table. Sometimes this you gotta go to this week if the chocolate covered strawberries. What Megan there's been a lot of fun? Thank you so much for coming. Where can people find you? You're doing a lot of great things. Ask podcast on. Iheart that actually hosts with my husband's that is a sports podcast. But I do have a lot of female friends specifically told me that they like love listening to it because we talk about sports as sort of gossip a lot less XS knows and we obviously like bicker and you know call each other me names and then. Uh sports my husband and I both worked for the NFL. 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Sex and the City (The Movie) with Megan Gailey

The Bechdel Cast

1:34:27 hr | 2 years ago

Sex and the City (The Movie) with Megan Gailey

"The Future of phone service is here and it's called visible for forty bucks a month all in you get unlimited data messages and minutes on Verizon's four G. Lt Network guess what they don't do. Annual contracts what unlimited data means unlimited data holy cow and you know what else they don't have his physical phone stores because I hate eight to go to those. Oh if you're ready to learn more switch to visible head divisible dot com slash T. C. to get twenty dollars off your first month service when you sign up and in an exclusive special offer Jasper Becker del cast listeners. That's visible dot com slash. TB See on the back door the questions it has individual Patriarch Changing with the Gel ah welcome to the Bechtel cast. Thank you so much for being here. We're psyched to have yeah yeah we if you're not familiar well first of all by Ron to applause a WHO has listened to our show before enthusiastic. Ask and clap a hesitant who in the night if you have not heard it. It's okay okay friend very dragged right love it John. Thanks for coming. Thank you so for you. We will explain what our show is. We take a different movie every episode we examine it through the Lens of how does it treat women and unfortunately nearly the every movie fucks it up and as we'll talk about tonight sometimes even movies made incredible. We use the Bechtel test as a jumping off point for discussion. If you're not that is it is a media metric emitted by cartoonist Alison Bekdil in which two female identifying characters must talk to each other about something other than a man for at least two lines of dialogue Yup Yep. Should we try it out. Try it out okay. Hey Jamie what's up Caitlin. It shouldn't shouldn't be this hard. It shouldn't be on trying to think of something relevant to the movie. Were discussing tonight. unfortunately there are no memorable quotes or anything good about you. Do you remember the part where she says. I like shoe. That's my fav- okay. Do do you like shoes. Jamie nope me either I should but I I just wear the same pair smell and that passes the back door. Uh I'm genuinely very excited. We're talking about sex in the city the movie which is critical because there is there's so much universe to explore. We're talking about the movie. Oh eight year of my first kiss wow eight year for me That was the year I graduated college so also your food I but who won difficult. Let's say which was the larger accomplishment 'cause I really hung in there and waited I'm so excited for guests to come out because I just feel like it's it's GonNa be a lively discussion. Oh indeed yeah. Let's bring her out. She's a comedian. She is the CO host of crooked media's hysteria and she has a comedy east-central Half Hour. Give it up for maybe I. I did try. I know that this is like visual. I'm about terrific -sually and people listening won't be able to hear it but it but I did dress in a way that I I thought the ladies would appreciate I agree. I think that the whole ensemble it would be very carey. I know my Jean Jackets from made well and that's pretty embarrassing. That's what Miranda would buy but I'll take it off so then. I feel more like Charlotte now. I I see it does do do you. How do you identify sex in the city. I identify as Charlotte in the streets and Samantha and the sheets and everyone here is we don't even know what that means. it means. I like to dress preppy and fuck allot congratulations elation. Thank you well now. I'm getting married so I can only one person. You'll still fuck a lot yeah. Honestly I feel like now that it's down to one person. I send my fucking has dipped then Jamie. How do you identify I don I was I was struggling. I don't do you have an opinion either way about you or or about myself about I was I was struggling. I was I just looked at this movie and I'm like Chris. Noth why why Carr's Kris knows when you cast Alfred Molina. That's all I see when I see this movie yeah. I don't think you fit the mold totally. If anyone and I hope you take that is the I. person of their Baristas. I'm with a lot of people feel that way though yeah I feel like I would serve serve them food and talk shit about them when they leave yeah. That's what I think I identify. I think most is Raphael from teenage. Mutant Ninja Turtles is there. That's my sex in the city character because if you think about it megan thanks for being here for of all what is is your history your relationship with this movie and then kind of just the franchise extended universe you know sex in the city started when I was probably at the middle school so it was a little bit before what maybe I should have been watching maturity wise but I did start watching it and and I can remember my mom letting me have people over girls over to watch the finale my senior high school and I cried aid and I grew up in the midwest and so sort of seeing this truly fictional depiction of New York City was really exciting and glamorous to me and then when the movie came out I got to go to a private screening. Indianapolis one won the Indianapolis Premier Two PM on a Sunday not even the day the movie permit like one of the radio stations gave out tickets kitts or something and my friend was an intern there and so we got to go and watching it in the theater with a group of Midwestern turn white women was truly in I mean hooting and hollering and laughing and even at the time I remember being like that wasn't a joke a a just everyone was having so many reactions and it was a really great way to see. It's the same way I saw girls trip to. I was so so high and so drunk when I saw girls trip and that movies bad and I'm like I haven't revisited it but when I saw it loved it so I think part of the experience when I saw it. The first time was so great but now it's on TV. It's on E. All the time so you can pop up in and how I almost was like I need to Rewatch it for this and I was like I know I know it. You know you need to be doing my homework. I wrote the homework so so I feel I feel well versed in it and it definitely got me through some some tough times oh Jamie how about you I don't have much of I think I've seen. I definitely wasn't allowed to watch it. When it first came on and then I just we didn't have HBO it because we were quite poor so we hbo was nothing in my home. Also we didn't talk about or look at nibbles so it'd be. Oh was also ideologically absolutely not I think in my home I seen probably like between ten and fifteen episodes of this show over the years but my mom a you show there's so much happening. My Mom got really into sex in the city like when I was a senior in high school which was too late and I remember. She came up to me like my senior year of high school and she was like Cheney. Do you walk so she she she was not like super familiar with the concept or like and she was like. Are you doing it behind my back and it was like no we're full. Bush family is like HBO or full Bush family and she was like a thank God and then two years later. She's like I did it. I hated it. It was so that's really my entire experience. I've never seen this movie okay yeah I would watch this show periodically on TBS CBS because a friend of mine when I was a freshman in college loved it and would play it and I would be in her room and had no choice but to consume it. Yes then I saw the movie because my best friend. Jt played it. All the time in the apartment. We lived in together is a big Fan. He's a big Fan. Okay I will not hesitate to say that I hate sex and the city I hate it so much watch but I am so excited to talk about is just the way of a sex in the city the way I feel about sex and cities which is basically neutral could take them could leave. 'em Sure I do have to say I WANNA clarify. I'm not one of those people who's like. This is my identity. Okay sure people during this time that we're like listen. I only drink cosmo's and I like I've never owned a poster in the general public as a Samantha Slash Charlotte when asked point blank have answers and anecdotes for every single thing great perfect so we're so there's a nightmare for the full spectrum is is represented deed full spectrum of Caucasian woman attitudes. The city is represented like how this movie sex and the idea of diversity is a red headed woman. A Brown haired haired woman a blonde woman and a dirty blonde woman in a black assistant and a Hudson a role that could be removed from the movie and Change. It's nothing brave. Jennifer rods. Should I dive into the recap yeah so I guess can we just sort of establish how wow the TV series ends because I do fully believe just based on what I know about the series that the first movie seems to undo all everything that that was cool about the series and that was interesting about the series because win. Kerry deciding that she is going to be with no one with herself right right that she's chosen Kerry I mean. We can't ever really know what carry-ons because she's so fucking annoying. She's it's definitely like I don't WanNa be with this. Ballerina who's pretending to be an artist for the sake of the show so she's going to leave Paris but like she is going to be with big real but she doesn't end up with anyone at the end of the series right yeah. No I think big goes to Paris and gets her way. Is that really yeah okay. Do I was drunk and high school like no big big goes and gets her and then the movie movie sort of picks up where that where where what it would have been up to well. This is even worse than I thought dressed awful yeah. Oh Oh oh good gift for Jeff. Guys wound clear Isabel all right yeah. Let's talk about the movie all right so the the recap thankfully the beginning of this movie recaps the highlights of the show which was very helpful for me. There's clips I like I like watching a movie alone. That knows doing fan service that you don't really understand. You're like Oh someone is really enjoying this summer. So aw there are forming characters. Obviously we've got Charlotte and her husband is hairy. Is Mr Bald Mr Vague of Mr Bombs. She had a husband been during this series named trae okay he had erectile dysfunction and a mean mom oh well they got a divorce classic trae so she and Harry are married and they've adopted a baby from China Lily. Maranda has moved to Brooklyn Glenn with her husband. Steve in their son. Brady so far so good go to Samantha loves sex did you we know does she's dating like a younger. Hoti Garrett Jarod Dickson any man with two first names I I cannot trust and then Carey has had this on again off again relationship with big and right now they're on. Do you think his name is Jarrett. Smith and he just doesn't know well. I'm she meets him and his name is like something stupid and then she's like no. I'm GonNa fix you your name. Is She. A Big Star Okay okay. I did watch that episode. Okay Brag so we flash forward to the present. We're the movie picks up. Keri and big are looking for apartments in New York City ever heard of it and that is exactly how the movie Rosemary's Mary's baby starts. Just say I thought of that too. I was like oh no. They're going to go into it too big apartment and things start to go wrong and EH neighbors. The devil is turns out basically basically so they find this expensive penthouse. How's that carry falls in love with prewar priori say that's so much which war and Chris Noth is really turning in one of the worst performances of the century and this movie he keeps turning to her with this shit eating grin and his like a yeah we because there is growth is sort of like off camera behind the scenes things happening. Kim Cottrell and Sarah Jessica Parker hated each other. I love it each other and that's why it kind of took so long. I'm for the movie to happen. Most recently there was so there's a second one we won't get into that. I cannot even defend that one. There was going to be a third one. Kim Kim controls brother died and Sarah Jessica Parker commented on her instagram like I'm so sorry I'm thinking about you and Kim Cottrell was like go fuck to yourself. I don't need you and neither does my dad brother and then everyone was the third movies not happening so there is like you're watching it and like we note this so you're watching the movie like these people hate each other and you know it's over money and sort of fame and maybe that's why. I liked it so much. Just having co workers have to be together that don't like each other behind the scenes drama. It truly does sustain me in many ways. It's the way is there anything for note heads was he was he was in a fight with anyone no but I did see him on the street once in New York and I was high and I was. I don't know if I should say anything. I don't know if I should say anything because he was so handsome and I guess when we were shoulder to shoulder and he was carrying a briefcase and it's like where are you going. Ah What do you have in their scripts of the good wife. Like what business meeting do you have. We got shoulder to shoulder and I turned to him and I said you're great and he looked at me he goes. Thanks Kid. Oh that's scary because he didn't like me. He didn't want to be talking to me but I was like. Thanks for like giving me what I want what I needed. I promise I won't interrupt anymore. After this. I do have a quick Chris. Noth Alfred Molina Crossover Okay so on my old twitter account before I got frozen. I once tweeted just so everyone knows Chris. Noth is the poor man's Alfred Molina. This was is years ago. Yeah apparently both Chris because I didn't tag anyone. I'm not sure I just a general thought and apparently both Christmas and Alfred Alfred Molina regularly search their names on twitter because they both replied with complements to each other where Alfred risk sorry Freddie. My friend replied saying I think Chris Noth is the best Chris Noth he can be aggressive and then Krizner Chris Noth was like thanks buddy your loved you in Spiderman do it was so nice and then if I recall you then tweeted back at Alfred Molina and really please come on the Bechtel cast and then sure enough two years later he was on it do that so that's nice great. Thank you for this now. Thank you very much someone snapped and that was beautiful so okay we've so they're looking for an apartment find expensive. One in big like I got soup. Yeah and Kerry is trying to figure out what to do with her apartment. She's considering selling it but she's worried what might happen if like she and big split up up again because they have like five hundred times at this point. It's a lot I guess and so they're not married so she would have no legal rights to this property because he bought the whole thing so he's like okay. Let's get married and she's like okay cool. Let's do that and then they start planning the wedding. She gets featured featured in vogue photo shoes. Bergen for forty five seconds and then you're old you're just like no Kuenssberg in Europe look but no one says that and then the scenes over and she is given address by Vivienne Westwood who I guess is a fancy designer but I'm too poor court know that Gwen Stefani says her name in a song. Oh no no kidding so you know she is cool. Then we get some subplots that it take up time some tension between Maranda and her husband Steve they hardly have sex anymore. Yeah then we've got Samantha and her boyfriend Smith their sex life is also kinda like slowing down because she's so horny and she just can't get enough settle. There's a lot of stuff revolving like some very expensive ring in the wrong prison bothering. It's like we're relating to it. Were feeling sixty thousand dollars on a ring. I wanted to buy it for myself and then she start spying on her new neighbor who's always fucking as well up so then carry starts to move out of her apartment and then everything is like fun and cool until Steve Tells Miranda that he had sex with another person and she's like well screw you then and she leaves meanwhile big. He's not taking the wedding planning seriously. This is his third marriage. He's over. He's a thug about weddings. He's yeah he's prepping for season. One of the good wife he's like. Can we move on Juliana. Margulis was my good wife right good wife his wife. It's a very good show that was like the kind of show that I was like this. Show is was fine and then I was like I'm in season six and I literally could not tell you a thing that happens in that show. I've never watched he's good here in Washington. The good fight I'm not I don't have four dollars to spend on simply. Can't I watched the good place anyway there so so at the rehearsal dinner the night before the wedding steve shows up and it really upsets Miranda so she goes up too big and she's like you're crazy for getting married. Marriage ruined everything anything and so he decides you're right yeah so it's the day of the wedding bigs trying to contact carry on her flip tip phone love. The hardly has hit in it. Yes in of weirdly silent seen that child is only allowed to speak twice in the entire movie. There's moments room just like it would be so much less weird if she had a line of dialogue here but she just looks from side to side and then like hides the flip phone. She's like the the most well behaved child I've ever seen. It's implied that she watches. Charlotte just move carry out of her apartment for three days. It isn't she. She looks like she should be in school big. Essentially he doesn't want to get out of the Limoux. He is like Carrie. I don't think we should do this and then she attacks him with her bouquet of flower. I did love that part of beautiful scene. I love that part visually beautiful. That was one of the few times that I was like. I agree with Gary Right now. I don't but we'll talk about that. She than we cut to a few days later. She is just shake into her core. Their friends are trying to comfort her. They go to Mexico and I was supposed to be her honeymoon trip tip. She does the same thing that Bella doesn't twilight which is basically blacks out for seventy two hours and wastes away and that she's like whoever will I ever laugh again and then Charlotte Shits ourselves and then she laughs chef part time time some things happen for a while and then New Year's Eve rolls around in Marand Kerry hang out because they're both single had such such a beautiful scene to New Year's Eve song but they do it. It's like instrument and like I mentally don't. I feel like you did like you may have hit every kind of unravels. She goes back to New York and hires assistant to help get her life yeah. This is how how like disposable Jennifer Hudson character is written to be as you can forget to mention her in the movie doesn't change now. You really achieve diversity name. Louise leased from Saint Louis and then big is still trying to get in touch with Kerry but she like deletes his emails. She has a new phone number carries areas one of those terrifying women. I refuse to you like learn how to use the phone. I'm too rich which they're out. There and I just know how to use the computer pewter either no and she she's like I'll hire someone. You Bitch dyes her hair. She does her hair Brunette. Brown as a color of sadness. I've found that to be training and then Charlotte Brown haired one also the other brown haired one finds out. She's Greg Nt. She is Greg mant. Yes she's got a little greg so now new year's Eve rolls around and then and fashion week happens I gotta get with the thing is like they need this whole movie funded by various brands and so there's entire there's that whole scene in the pharmacy where you're like this is unnecessary but you're like oh but Garni a I get it. They just need various checks and then Kuranda carrier hanging out on Valentine's Day and Kerry. Maybe it was my fault. Maybe that's why big left and then Miranda is is like well actually 'cause. I told him that he was stupid to get married. Even that's clearly not so great. Can you think of how how many offhand things you've said like. I would have forgotten saying that within literally two hours right. I mean I'm getting married in people. Tell me all the time not to get married using out of the LIMO. No like listen. I gotta get divorced on my own. You know like I have to go on the journey. I understand that but it's a lesson I have to learn the hard and expensive catastrophic way big reacts to that as if it is the first time he's heard it but we already do lies right. He's just like like wait a second this. He's a weak man. I have a whole shug elder talk about this later on insane but Miranda's acting like it's this big the secret she's been keeping and then carry reacts such a way that she. I mean she's furious. She gets stuck on a bunch of balloons right. Visually hilarious reminds as we have like at my birthday party last year so many people confronted my then at the time new boyfriend for long boarding there and you know he stuck around whereas the longboard in the trash where I put it so it's like relationships should be able to whether these comments is what I'm saying yes so eventually carry forgives gives Miranda and then she starts to figure out how she can forgive Steve. There's a whole Brooklyn Bridge Reunion. They get back together Samantha. Anthony is horny still for her neighbor but she's like I'm with Smith. I can't fuck my neighbor so then she dumps Smith which I thought was one of the more of like Samantha does a number of things that are just horrible in this movie that I hate but the speech she gives to her haughty. You boy friend who loves her. I really did like because she's like. I like being in a relationship with myself more than I like being in a relationship with you and he was like that tracks yeah. That's why he's so chill about it. He's very cool about after naked Sushi. Also Samantha's like be plotline is that she gained ten pounds. That's right that is that is just like. Oh yeah who knows that's what that but that is like the implied wakeup call of like. She needs to break up with her wealthy TV. Actor boyfriend is obsessed with her. Whatever yeah and then Charlotte she's this point Greg Nint- is Hell Greg is ready. She's Tacoma Greg Kickin and one day. She's having lunch by herself and she sees big and she's like. I'm so mad at you and then she's so mad that her water breaks God. It's like the one like one of the few Cathartic moments in this movie. She's like I fuck you. You suck and then she's like. I need you like God. Damn it so she takes her to the hospital. Oh and then carry shows up and they're like he was waiting here for you. You still loves you. He wrote you all these love letters and she's like what love letters and then she goes into the email file of all the one sheet how to use email because relationships are sacrifice yeah then they he retyped book he copy and paste up other our people's rights and then wrote two sentences and she's like good good enough. She goes actually permanent that he bought for her. Then is selling again because because she likes the shoe she likes she loves shoes. Jennifer Hudson. She calls Jennifer Hudson by the way Jennifer Hudson's getting married not that it has any relevance. She's back in St Louis. She's not even in in New York but yeah she's back home and then she has to call to give Kerry one more plot point which is that. There's a shoe somewhere. That's truly what happens one. If Kerry goes into that closet and instead of shoes it's like the pathway to devil worshipping cult like Rosemary's Mary's Bay wasn't really in the closet that was where there was or there was like remember they move the like that big piece of furniture and there she meets the back of the closet and then there's like the hallway alway to the Colts House that is such a better movie and it was made by like the most famous molester. It's just like this movie is bleak. Vivian and what if she goes in the closet and big is fucking his secretary and she's like well my Mola Blahnik sir here so all Mareo anyways I I mean that's that's about standards yeah so he's like hey all Zora's is holding your shoe and they can of you and then she's like. Let's see oh man. I love you and he's like. Let's get married again. This time. I won't leave so it ends. The the movie ends the same way that TV show ended again get married but this time they were simple chanel vintage suits roots because the symbolism is she didn't need the big dress. She just needed Chanel. She knew what she wanted the whole time. She should have settled. I mean she just is needed. Man as every woman in this movie does and then the there at the courthouse. The gals are there to surprise her than that's Jennifer. Gaudin doesn't even get to go. She's trapped in Saint Louis cod but that's the movie of sex in the city two thousand eight Hey Jamie how we call all each other all the time on our phone well. The Future of phone service is here and it is called visible amazing for forty bucks a month you get unlimited limited data messages and minutes on Veritas Four G. LT network incredible guess what they don't do annual contracts so you're not going to be stuck in a contract contract and when they say unlimited data they mean unlimited data. CAITLYN so visible won't charge you by how much data you use. It's unlimited. Wow guess what they also so don't have physical phone stores goes good because I hate to go to those lines. Suck Boo if you're ready to learn more which visible than head to visible dot com slash. TB We see to get twenty dollars off your first month service when you sign up and exclusive special offer Jasper Bechtel cast listeners. That's visible dot com slash. Tb See who all right we're GONNA we. Oh Gosh I don't know well. I guess what was your your first impression of. This movie like versus is the TV show. Do you feel like it's a big departure from the TV show or like or how did you feel about it so I went into it and every the press had been like this movie is bad. expectations were low. The soundtrack is very good a grand the fashion is sort of the through line that they were able to bring Fra. It's Patricia field and it's like listen. She did the show. Everyone looked cool. In great she did the movie everyone cooling gray and then you're just kind of like plugging lugging them in different they give you these sort of like scratched the itch there is a montage of Kerry cleaning out her closet and you see all of her eye. I contact look. There's to dress trying. Yes yes yes and I could've used another one. You know never enough for me and I'm sorry I did want Stephen Miranda to get back together and I like everybody's kids what else you need so yeah. Ah The show is I know you disagree. The show is better it one that means you know and this is not going to win anything but if you were like a fan of the show I think he would watch the movie and be like this is a nice warm cup of cocoa yeah. There's there's a few and I guess like like we're operating on limited sex in the city knowledge but I mean for most movies I I would be. I'm like always like Oh. Why aren't there people with multiple the classes portrayed and all that but for this franchise in particular there's a lot of things like the lack of like diversity and like the very like bizarrely poor way at handles squareness given that the creator is like. I take extreme issue with all of that but the class stuff I feel like I weirdly exclude from this conversation because they feel like it was designed as an escapist fantasy for women and it has like a complicated legacy in general all in that's been good. Lord has been fucking written to death the legacy of this franchise but I feel like in this like we I can do the same five complaints. Everyone has about the show of like hose curry you for this on a freelance writer salary. It's written like it is a fantasy and you're supposed to Oh you know as and when this franchise was kind of like forward thinking and a little bit different which is like maybe the first few seasons of this show and definitely not by two thousand nate like it's cultural usefulness was kind of behind it and it was there for fans but I don't know I I I appreciate it as an escapist idea and and there are like it's so often that whenever there is a franchise it's targeted at women specifically however flawed it is but like we've talked about twilight. We've talked about fifty shades of grey. We've talked about a bunch of franchises directed at women and there's just like always implicit shame about it to anyone. Who enjoys is it in any capacity that sucks because like we've also done fucking blade runner. We've done like every movie like every stupid movie directed two guys and it's like you know. Women get should get dumb stuff too. Yeah and that's my feminism. Ah that's my feminism too and I also think sex in the city a bit of a pass because it was in the nine like when it premiered I think it was ninety eight ninety two things that was a different time obviously and in their defense they were like well. We're talking so openly openly about sex and we're having a women talk about sex and so everyone kind of looked the other way on all those other issues to the point that when girls started which kind of stepped into that same timeslot need demographic nipple and everyone was like where the fuck are all the Black People Lena Dunham was like but sex in the city didn't have any black people and it's like your friend. That was a long time I am. AGO and people are mad at them now. I think that's why girls had sir so much backlash because some of it was like delayed sex in the city backlash yeah I agree. I mean it's I don't know anything that anyone says about this is always going to be like loaded and weird and complicated but on on its surface like there were like in the pilot of the show did a little homework and it's like this is like one of the first shows that acknowledged queer people however however poorly written as a part of other people's lives specifically. We're men clermont the show kind of except for I think one Samantha Samantha Lesbian for like a nor a couple episodes but other than that the show seems to erase women altogether. Yes that is true and she ends is like breaking up with her girlfriend. She's eighty. It's not even a good representation but they do take baths together and and it is like I mean like all like we've covered so many movies that take place in the late ninety s and it's weird because even though this movie comes out in two thousand eight it is still the the late ninety s in the world of this franchise for its entirety which is why four zero eight. I'm sure it was poorly reviewed because the world had mostly just like moved on from that that like way of women being portrayed so I I feel like this is a late nineties movie in a way and it is like it's sort of subscribes to like I almost think of it the way that you think of like the spice girls in a way where you're like it is like feminism like girl power. That's trying to sell you something quite aggressively and it's like Oh yeah like women are empowered as long as you have money or white and are Hetero right yeah so it is like just right off the top. It is peak all of that and we understand that yes yes indeed I did write. The first using I wrote in my notes is women be shopping the movie and they'd be they'd be shopping that does is not disappoint. If you're looking for women be shopping representations movie delivers I honestly I mean. It's like why watch this movie. If you don't want to see women shopping the visibility for women who shopping and then another thing good thing which we touched on briefly but this as far as I understand understand it was one of the first kind of mainstream things that was about sex positivity especially for women and that it kind of opened up opened up some conversations that helped lead to more sex positive era and then do you remember and I didn't watch this this show when it was airing but even I was like familiar with and I know we look at it now. We're like obviously this is like one of the least diverse franchises but ah the hatred directed at Sarah Jessica Parker for how she looked like was so intense and that kind of grounded in like like the nine thousand nine hundred ninety eight of when it came out of like you couldn't even have a face that was the same face as everyone else with people just piling on you and you just think about like I mean if I was sick. I mean how how does that feel. It must feel looking dog shit. I've read my youtube comments before bad yeah. There's like back. I'm so sorry to bring up family guy but there's a I think it's a family guy joke where they like compare her face to foot. I want to say yeah. It's a lot of there's a list. There's foot and horse is I remember number. Whore and it's just it's just like yeah. She's a hot thin Hetero white lady and even she couldn't you know like so ah I mean. It's just such a weird complicated subject well. Let's let's really dive into the weeds. The Bush Miranda's Banda's Bush Bush was my favorite character and they're like Oh. That's that's me that's me feel seen for for once so the big things for me for this movie is in addition to the things that have already been talked about to death which is the lack of racial diversity the weird representations of the class thing which I do take issue with but this movie is an I know this is the point of this show sex in the city show the whole franchise but these women's lives are so so consumed by men because the show is about sex and relationships and because they're all Hetero women it ends up being that they their lives revolve around the men were with and yes we do know what their jobs are and sometimes we see them at work in this movie not as much we really only see them as they their storylines are all in relationship to men and their lives are completely revolving around men so that does not bode well for me so another question how what was the balance between like their relationships and then they're like job stuff in the series series. I mean Maranda went to Harvard and she had a whole plot line about trying to make partner and how difficult was when she had had brady and so her job definitely was. I mean you know that she works. I guess being a Harvard educated lawyer is not quote unquote relatable but she was a businesswoman and that's how she identified well someone with a masters degree in screenwriting from Boston University actually pretty relatable so so but like her and they very much dress them for their jobs so Miranda was always in sort of like a two piece suit and then Samantha was publicist but like a very very good one and there were allusion to the fact that she had really hustled and worked her way up. We don't really ever find out how Keri got this column but she has it and then at some point she sells a book and I think because in the movie she does not work at all she has written three books and I guess he's living off of that sure and then Charlotte worked at galleries. Oh so the jobs that women are allowed to have an Ramco working only if your bitch publicist yeah the way the movie does it. I don't know it yet the away the movie does it is egregious where no one's job as relevant really for both Carrie and Samantha at this point. When we you know we see them in the movie. Even their professionalize are centered around their relationships in general or relationship because Samantha has like basically you may basis generating him like yeah she's basically his Mama's her and then carry just writes about in her would Hetero love partners and sex even though she hates computers legs sure your writer but I also have no idea what big does what is email. I mean like I'm guessing Finance Hedge Fund venture capitalists. He's definitely absolutely rich. Never said what he does in any way. We don't even actually know his name's John. Thank you John Joseph Jingle Jingle. Yeah is his name as a runner in the series so they don't really put a lot of weight on. I mean like Steve owns a the bar and it's like no you don't Steve. I mean you do but you don't. What does the Bald Guy Do. he is a lawyer. He was actually Charlotte's divorce lawyer okay which for her like pretty convenient her issue with him she. He's like he's ugly but I guess he is rich. I'll marry his MOM I. I like his mom. His mom is dead like something where she was like. That is so dark okay other thing that really really bugs me talk about this movie again. Aside from all the stuff that is regularly talked about is that these women are so reactionary and they overreact to to everything which plays into the you know stereotypes that like women just are so emotional and we can't control our emotions emotions and you know we're incapable of being reasonable in anything like that because the plot of the movie only happens because carry Harry what I think is a huge overreaction to big having some second thoughts about the wedding like he well well. That's okay okay because how I would feel that way. If that were the first time he he had done this but this is clearly. It's almost like this is like the third fourth fifth time. He has bailed on her at the last minute so I hit him with a bouquet. Got Shaven even says I knew you would do this like mad at herself because she's of course he was gonNA do so. This also should picked up her fucking phone. You know like Lily Gimme the damn phone yeah and there are so many it's like. Chekhov's phone is put into this purse just so like this will happen but but it I mean I was refreshed by that moment because I like knowing my head that even if they break up if they break up forty five minutes into this two who would half hour long movie so they're GonNa get back together at the end which I already find disappointing the same thing with Stephen Miranda Ronda because I'm not attached to their relationship and I really was like she should just break up with him if he can't handle not having sex because raising his child fucking grow up your divorce just now by like what I just I wanted both the relationships in peril to actually end so I really relished polished the moments that they were like no fuck you you're. You're like a dip shit and like you know you said you'd show up can show up. I find with those relationships ending. If they had especially big had done something to warranted a bit more ensure he maybe I I am not familiar enough with the show to realize I'm not attached to the show but my bail on me three times your cancelled like he did. He said though like I just want you. I don't care about a wedding cake and then she she I feel like overreacts because she was humiliated humiliated in public even though it was fun of her close friends and then I don't know I just I felt that was such a huge overreaction and then maybe maybe that would have been so bad except that it keeps happening where then she freaks the fuck out at Miranda. That is stupid. What that that is. I mean I think like the heard Morandi that whole argument is set up to be so stupid like her. Passing comment doomed carries marriage than it's like yeah. They shouldn't have gotten married. Big Is like a lame. Oh Coward don't marry him but I mean yeah their friendship being imperil like that had to have that needed to be like a stronger storyline because it makes her look really weird and petty and like it makes Miranda look stupid which we know she's canonical not right so yeah but then like Samantha freaks I'll at Smith and like throw Sushi Adam. That was dumb to that was. I didn't like that and then Harry throws her phone off of a cliff Harry. Yes she's life and then Miranda. I feel like her being upset. With Steve being unfaithful to her was more of a warranted thing but also she just like she refused to talk about it. She used to like do anything and she was like. I'm leaving forever and then they get back together so as do Kerry and big so we see that these women I guess are capable of you've forgiveness and growth which seems so they're good Christians whatever light but it just like there. The reactionary response is is that we're just like so steeped in like women be crazy with their emotions like I couldn't really get past that yeah. I don't know I mean was that true. In the show I feel like I do always appreciate and I think that this movie shows like really none of this but I do always appreciate when you see like women making and mistakes but are still you know you're still rooting for them because there is such a tendency which is about all the time towards like Mary Sue female characters who cannot make a mistake because women only get one chance onscreen or in life and if and if you fuck up you know you're you're dead to the world so I do appreciate you like when women fuck up in a sympathetic way but that doesn't really happen to show sometimes where you're like ugh carry you dumb ass win. This show their way crazier. Really I think so so much time I mean listen you gotta get people to tune in every Sunday. There's a drama. Emma was a guy that I mean they would. They would break up with men for the craziest. Things like there was a guy who would like eat Miranda's Pussy A. and then like she didn't like he wasn't wiping his face and then she was like you're out of here and it's like I wipe his face like I've never seen I've never seen that episode and I remember that yeah that looked like a glazed donut yeah and I thought of that. The first thing that happened to me and I was like it's like that thing they were. We're relationships in the show that they threw away because that's the point. That's the vehicle is them breaking up with people confidently point that you're like. You're all going to be alone which is fine. Everybody's allowed to be alone but they don't Wanna be alone except for Samantha really. I think that's kind kind of what the writers were doing for the movie they were like we can't have all of these couples work so. Smith and Samantha have to end but that's the couple that you're the least invested right and like she's the character who should be with someone the least so that one that that's not even a big sacrifice in any way but I did. I was very very invested in Stephen Maranda. I I guess divas the goodguys they really are. I we'll see I I. It's one thing okay the thing that bothered me about Stephen Maranda who I don't know what their history is but like the thing that bothered me about them getting back together was that it wasn't Miranda's idea for them to get back together where it's like. I actually kind of understand when she found out it is set up for like we're fully on her side where she is like. I am like being a lawyer five hundred hours a day. I'm raising this kid. I've got to do all this stuff dementia. Yes she's helping his mom and he's like why don't you like me more like that sucks yeah and the in fact. She stands up for herself and it's kind of like I don't have time to fuck you right now like I get it like it just like I feel like she like a lot of women and people in general can relate with that like are you seriously asking me to do this. On top of like taking care of your sick sick mom and your child can't stop like drool whatever like and then it seems it. I feel like the movie implies the consequence of that is he achieves and then she's made out to see main for not wanting to deal with it right away and not wanting to forgive him right away like no why that's so shitty and so it was her idea to be like okay at some time has passed if had time to think about it. Let's try counseling then great but it's like it's like her friends. Pressure her into it like like all three of them are like when when you give Steve a chance just give her time but he has a free ways but he's like they're like the come on somebody and then on Maranda well and some of their history he has one testicle and they had sack doesn't come on they had vacs she had like pity sex with him and that's when she got pregnant and she was going to have an abortion carry one with her and then she didn't have an abortion which is actually a plotline that I really really really fucking hate in the show and and girls it's like both of these women would've had abortions and you're being extremely offensive to the people that watch these shows that have had abortions and didn't walk out of the clinic to keep the baby with a fuck has ever done that so they do have and I think what they're saying to Miranda. Sometimes they're like listen. You chose this bitch and you got this batch so you're trying to change. Someone and it's just not gonNA happen. I just wish they'd just like let her come to that conclusion on her own but Miranda gets it's an room way so that they all sort of are having to like see their fatal flaws throughout the movie and Miranda's stat she stubborn and can be like coldhearted. Charlotte says that she likes to run. Carey's is very bad form by the way I know I mean. It's like what is the movie about. Charlotte and she's afraid she's going to have a miscarriage so she stops running right. That's her storyline she. I honestly didn't care. It didn't another reaction there. I know but I mean I was actually kind of relieved. That Charlotte was giving too much to do because I'm like. I do care about you the leafs yeah but her husband is great. Harry's Great Mr Bald Love them make him part of the group Charlotte it like he's always like he likes shows up and it's like Hey Kerry like he's always opening doors with like a sympathetic look and that's his entire character like I know I just watched my wife. 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Two shoes like everything offends me and I won't eat anything thing if it's in Mexico because I read that was seen was row for everyone because we hate food. There wasn't made in America and pubic hair. London that was going to Mexico is bad because I don't think it I mean it's so unrealistic that they would just be like. Oh these two people that we're GONNA come for their honeymoon now. We're going to let four trump. No business would do that. How how do they all have time off. I mean Miranda doesn't have enough time to fuck and she has enough time to like get her passport and go to Mexico like I don't know where where's Brady and then and then Harry Jerry I hate when nothing is wrong with people and they have to be fed food like a little women. Beth is fed food and it's like you're on. You're like oh my gosh. She's dying because she loved these German kids too much and like you. I just love watching slurp soup that are ill but it's like Kerry. Harry is hell can can we respect Harry his healthy healthy. She's in wedding shape okay so that's usually when people are their best and one of them is having like feed her yogurt and it's like don't do this to them like eat the ogre or don't go to Mexico yeah yeah. She shouldn't have gone. He overreacted and that's why she's so depressed. If she just stopped to talk too big for a second reasonable person would would he could have been like hey yes. I am having cold feet some second thoughts as many many people do when they're about to get married I I'm. I'm GONNA leave you at the alter Caitlyn because there I still I think she should have hit him with the bouquet I do. I do think it is like weird. Eared poor forum yeah fine. I'll go on my honeymoon but I'll be a real bitch about it like day home. If that's the campus being so bending over backwards I also this is no offense to Kabo or wherever they were. I don't carry big would go to Mexico. I think they would go to Greece and like rent a yacht. I don't 'cause this you know. Kiss show hates people of color go to anywhere where like well it almost reminded me of like kind have like a wes. Anderson and he move of lettuce go to like a majority nonwhite country and use the people in the culture there as set dressing for white people doing well well. I'M NOT GONNA like sex in the city to a yeah that one it's crazy it cost me three ninety ninety nine to rent this sex in the city to tellingly it costs fifty cents isn't that wild and this and sex and the city of the movie is not good. It was not worth four dollars I can't I can't even conceive a fifty cent rental on youtube but yields hard to know well now that we're on this road of how the show treats race. Shelly just opened up a with a quote that I have please This is from a piece in refinery twenty nine by your Harris entitled Harris a friend of the show because friend of me. Oh no kidding. Thank you friend of yours. We went to college together. Yes let's get her on the show. Oh finding the pieces entitled for Women of Color who loves sex and the city she says quote it was a show that it was simultaneously progressive and regressive where people of color were either stereotypes or punch lines even when Samantha or Miranda never carry or Charlotte share shared their bed with a black or Latino suitor. The lead character's empathy or curiosity never expanded beyond stereotypical observations whispered amongst their narrow white social social circles. New York was the main character on the show that featured only one type of New Yorker so that's this is speaking specifically about the series rather other than the movie but it does apply to the movie still because the one person of color that has any sort of narrative significance is the assistant that Carrie hires which I am guessing as clearly a response to the criticism the show God is like yeah clued more people of color but then the optics of like a working class black woman being hired to work for a rich white lady. Those optics are not. I honestly also think they there's really wanna Jennifer Hudson on the soundtrack and like that may actually trump to the fact that they were like we need a black person on the show and this is like appeak Jennifer Hudson. She already won an Oscar. I got her post Oscar to be assistant. I Yeah I truly I mean. I just it's like Stan. Jennifer rods heart and I did not know she was in this movie. She is not used to her full talent and I feel like her role is essentially I mean you could even even argue I think and you know everyone's sound off in the contest but I think you could even reduce it to like kind of a white savior narrative of like she applies for this assistant job and then carry you know lifts her up and gives her a bag and all this shit ugliest bag. I've ever seen a very bad back there but I this is another like symptom of of this kind of as an extension of what hunter saying like it's symptom of a show made in the ninety s that was super white very very clearly not conscious of the fact that like television needs to be fucking inclusive because everyone's watching it and then trying to course correct way too to late. There is like a similar like another big ninety show friends. I've heard of bitch like they added. I just like factor is they. They added a black character in season nine of that show I tyler he's joined the cast in like the last two seasons of that show and it just and like even though like Jennifer Hudson does like as much as she possibly can with she's given and so did I. Asia Tyler is just like too little too late right to course correct when you're that deep into into something and we're you know when this comes out ten years deepened a sex in the city and this is the first woman of color that is included meaningfully and it's like like I mean reflected by your recap like she is very easily removed from the plot without much happening. Desi organizes carries life a little but also she is. She teaches she. Does she checks email. I it makes her a better website because computer science major. Why is she getting a the job as an assistant to Carrie Bradshaw doesn't make well. She is a woman in stem number. One computer science is science rich slender. Oh yes letter but yeah so. She gets this job that she's overqualified for. I don't know why why she applies. I mean this. I mean it's the recession. That's how I justified it. I was like well. You know people with graduate degrees shop shop pre recession writing. It was shot like shop subprime. Weinstein easy hang on. Let me find 'cause so. There's this whole story line. Where Kerry does this photo photo shoot for Vogue and then a little bit later on into the movie she is looking at the stack of magazines she has and on top of her issue of vogue. There is an issue issue of Forbes magazine worse and on the cover it says how long before our real estate bubble pop oh boy oh my God aw I mean what has to be like texting the city we called this because this movie came out may thousand eight the housing market as you've officially crashed on December thirtieth two thousand eight hundred thirty seven it. It's their fault aw begging Carey go into loser apartment because of the housing bubble. I mean probably one percents he he was. I'm guessing just like finance guy he thanks he was. He got hit by an egg. During Occupy Wall. I just think the magazine but she like kind of moves it to the side. She Coward read the article and done something about it. We wouldn't have been a yeah. I was thinking instead. She's like boys bullies boy. I mean and even Jennifer Hudson's character her ends up leaving New York for a man to get married and we will. That's our characters introduces yeah. The reason Carey hires her has because Jennifer Hudson is like how to break up yes. She is just like I came here to fall in love and carry. I'm also stupid to and be my plate like it is not a good beginning to a French. I mean it's Jennifer. Jennifer Hudson is very good at her job. I mean it's like you're just checking emails great at her job. She rents she hasn't she loves her family. It was a joke then but it's real now and Kerry does to someone's credit say like many many times you tate to me yeah yeah just after ten years you're like this is the best we can do and Mike Michael Patrick King who who is the creator of sex in the city. He is a queer white man. He has a real good. Look it up. He has a very bad track track record of it's like he's perpetually in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. He can't get out. He's trapped what else he done. He also created two broke girls. uh-huh which also which had sometime in two thousand thirteen had like a story line that addressed race because it's another show that's helped by straight white women and that by the time it had twenty thirteen came around. He got blowback and dealt with it. You're never gonNA guess extremely poorly and so so it is one of those things where it's just like yeah he's trapped in the ninety s and refuses to learn and now there are consequences for it. It's so so I mean 'cause. He also directed this movie. He was one of the CO writers on it. The way clearness is handled is strange to me the and does still feels very stuck in the nineties. There's a lot of criticism around two yeah where you're like. You're saying mostly and Jt was telling Emme who made me watch this movie also made me watch twilight but he was like like I'm so attached to the show I love this show because because it was one of the first mainstream pieces of media that gave visibility to and that normalized gay men existing in the world so I was like okay like Kudos to the show for that but then like I don't know I just feel like some of the gay male characters that we meet our steeped in stereotypes there I mean I think that's just like another way that this show is like perpetually in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight where that was a big deal in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight for queer characters cruise to be acknowledged in any way and by the time OEI comes around. It's just like well. This is now a really dated and like boring and offensive way correct queer characters like get your shit together right. One thing I like about the movie I will say is that it is about you know it's like about a group of women over forty which you'd never see in a movie so I like that like that. There are women over forty better treated by the movie as sexually like hot and their sex lives are important that is like the strength of this entire. You're like series is it started like women over thirty or not like shrews or horrible if they're not married by a certain age and now you know like the the benefit of it being two thousand and is like you know. Samantha turned fifty at the end of the movie and Kerry is forty and that is like addressed and you see them not it just be okay with it but you also see them struggle with a little bit which feels pretty realistic sure and also that I liked yeah. They're also at least. Carey is on the receiving end of some weird like augist comments from a woman who is old Bergen. She's like you can help to prove women everywhere that a woman over forty. Ken Get married and then she makes a weird thin rbis reference that I I can look up so weird but she's like yeah you can get photographed and it won't you won't look like a circus freak for now l. but if you're even a little bit older than you are and you get photographed on a wedding dress then you will look like a freak and like it just was such a weird that is why okay not to get back to defending. Kerry for hitting him with the bouquet but to get back to that that was like I felt like that was set up in a lot of ways including that she was pressured by Candice Bergen Classic Movie Villain. We've all seen miss congeniality so but we we saw her be pressured into this very shoot which is obviously a huge champagne problem but like she. She is pressured into doing it. It doesn't seem like she wants to do it at first and she's like like this guy is. He's fucking flake like. I shouldn't do a vogue shoot. He constantly constantly bails on me. We have serious relationship problems but but then candace Bergen goes into this wild ages rant as a woman over sixty five and she's just like I know that I mean you're basically dead so you should be grateful that I'm offering this to you so I think she's pressured into that and then she does that so I do feel like they're okay. I I feel like in a way not to relate with Kerry but I feel like perhaps Kerry feels like she is representing a woman over forty who is like desirable and like worthy of getting married and you know like I feel she is representing more than herself self so that when Mr Big bells on her for the five thousand Pi. It's not only the frustration of like you fucking suck but it's also like I was representing this thing saying and now you made me now you. It's not only me failing. It's like a bunch of people that are going to feel bad that this didn't work out in your proving proving appoint. You're proving that like women who are older should not be brides in this way right but I do think I mean I've been looking at a lot of bridal magazines lately Leeann. It's extremely eight just and even when I went to try on dresses I tried unaddressed what was like very simple and like slinky and I was like this is more like a second wedding dress like you're you do have to like check. I eight bridesmaids and I'm like I'm too old for like a wedding a very juvenile saying even though it's grownups doing it. It's very silly young so it is I do think in a lot of ways. The movie movie was trying to address that like no matter what age you are. If you're rich you can wear whatever you want and that was sort of like a fashion note how big your wedding reading can be but the age. The wedding was definitely unintentional. Perhaps but a significant like plot point that I think a lot of people could see themselves in churn. I think for me like the fact that she knows over forty and not being like the one way that she experiences any sort of like marginalization because otherwise it's white thin sex industry yeah but you really come over to the dark but we're in there. I mean I like I saw oh. I was seeing Mary poppins. The movie started and a man thirty seconds into the movie turns to his girlfriend and goes. It's a musical and it's like how did did you not of course it doesn't make any sense that penguins tap dance but like in this world it does like the sex and the city world is fucked up up but like in the world the things do make sense. I suppose I just have to learn to suspend my jazz. A three hundred dollar pillow. I I can't but like I would get really of course is it. I don't I didn't remember that. It's like half of my rent. yeah. I would get okay household that is brag and we hate you for silk pillow. I don't know why she said it was like a Samantha's. Dog Is humping pillow dogs narrative. I honestly I would not get three hundred dollar pillow to put on a couch. We go to three hundred dollars pillow to sleep on and and I hope that makes me more relatable. I I wouldn't get a three hundred dollar pillow but I would get a horny dog and I have gotten a horny dog and and I was like oh here we here. We are maybe every time they would do something fucking stupid like maybe. I'm this person because I'm stupid. Here's a few things I lake AAC. You see women eating a lot. Yes you rarely see get they are shamed for it that they do and yeah there is more body shaming. Ming than you would think but shame for body hair shamed for Samantha having gained a little bit of weight but you see women eating eating in several different scenes and that is a rare Kerry. Hey doesn't cook hates to cook and I liked that because as another person who hates it's to cook. I think that's important visibility for women I like the engagement between big and Carrie. Isn't this like overly dramatic like big romantic gesture. as Carey says it's to adults making a decision which I think is maybe how more engagements should go to handled very mature person like a Blimp but oh sure you want to be in it or do you want to be on the ground looking up. I WANNA wake up and okay scenario all my bed to have been placed in the wake up in the blimp but then at the end and big is like Oh man we decided to get married and it was like all business. No Romance framers mistake but I feel like I mean marriage is just like a business transaction right. Well have a say in like. It's very strange to me and archaic that like it's like the man is deciding when in most relationships the men decide nothing because they can't think about anything but themselves so it sort of is the one thing they have to do and they usually fuck it up but it's like you shouldn't shouldn't the woman be a part of this conversation. I say all the time godless like when another thing that I was hit on 'cause I tried to watch this movie and meet sex in the city on his terms which is like you know like vapid. Materialism and eight is like if we have limitless resources which all of these women do carry wanted a big fancy wedding and big says repeatedly. I love you for who you are. I love you. I take you as you are but when she says well I want. This does not okay with them and that bothers him and I don't know that bothered me to of it isn't until she there is no compromise not like we'll have a mid size wedding which would have been at it. Does you know an adult discussion of she wants a bazillion people. He's like let's have you know fifty people but she ended up doing exactly what he wanted. In the first place which is to go to the courthouse and that's like oh now she can be married because she compromised her own dream and it's like I know that weddings are silly but but that is part of my parents marriage but she bought that sue and showed it to everybody and they were all like no no so in some ways as she did want something more simple but no pun intended she got carried away and the guest list started growing because I think she she started to. We all sometimes do this started get attention and she liked the attention of being a bride and at first. I think she thought it was silly bride so I think she was happy in both camps and she was happier in the camp that made him want to marry her. Uh uh-huh. Here's another thing I like. I like that. Samantha doesn't believe in marriage. That's also nice. Visibility polity from someone who again hates to cook and doesn't want to get married. I like that. The male gaze is flipped and you see I suppose Hetero female L. Gays where Samantha is looking at her neighbor and then although like you do see his dig and that is great good good good loved it. I mean if you see addict a movie. It's almost always like a gross out joke. It's literally about yeah yeah but you see some some Hetero. Female Gays Dick Shawn sexualize although I will argue that her spying on her neighbors neighbors fucking is extremely illegal and she should be in jail okay bye she's also in Malibu and they're like having sex in front of a window so unfit. They wanted their neighbors to see yes. Yeah and I and I do like that. She however cornea was. I liked her monologue when she breaks up with. It's her boyfriend saying like I like myself. I don't want to be in a long term relationship by. Do you want the ring. No I like this she also this is so small but he there's this whole stupid ass thing with a ring anyways. She is like Do you want the ring bag and he's like no and she. If it were me I would have been like. Are you sure are you you sure. Are you sure she's like Ok. Well think of you. When I look at it as like Oh that would be it would be fun to be that bitch for one minute it would does anyone have any other thoughts about this movie boy. Oh boy a feel like I'm i. We skipped stuff. Oh there's a scene where like Miranda Randa has left. Steve and she's looking for an apartment in what I think is China Town. Oh another racist and she's just like I don't WanNa live here you look there's a white guy. I'll follow him and like I only can go. Aranda for years has been like Brooklyn and then I'd like to see her in Brooklyn and it's like you're in like a five million dollar townhouse so I guess this was okay but she still is like cannot believe. I have to live here right so I don't know what Miranda's issue with. real estate is but it's it's deep yes. She's I the last thing think I'll say it took me. I had to watch the scene where Samantha like. There's the storyline were Samantha's unhappy that she can't fuck her neighbor. She wants to get out of her relationship the job and so she gained ten pounds she did not gain ten pounds though no for she show her eating cake twice put her pants that are too tight and yeah and then it just like. I mean all the implications that like any manner of gaining weight indicates that you are like depressed or something is wrong with yeah like the so that holding it didn't look like relatiate gained weight and everyone is like low key mortified when she looks. I think truly exactly this is a cancer survivor on the show. Ed Right like like why. Is this what we're freaking out about and then like Kerry makes this just like this made me so annoyed. Where Kerry makes this little comment where she's like. Honestly I think you would look beautiful at any size but like what the fuck you fucking mean that you like liar like it. Just is it was so unnecessary and it just yeah. I mean just like everything I dislike about. This movie is like yet because that's what people from nine hundred ninety eight would have not blinked Janai at and that is why this movie sucks came out ten years after it was intended to and in Konta even in context it makes no sense and it makes sense to me that it was poorly received even though it does all the fan service. Everyone is still using like cordless lists phones. I'm like where's your sidekick like. Two thousand eight our they gen xers. Is that what generation they are. No I think they might it actually be boomer. Samantha boomer on boom and then I think the arrest or Gen xers maybe legally but like they behave like consumer and then all the children are millennials and Brady's actually running. I mean it's so I mean Miranda ran for governor right. We're GONNA yeah I mean and it's it's like at least they're you know Cynthia Nixon as like an out actor and I mean I don't know how she plays a stricter who knows right yeah yeah. She's openly queer. She's married to a woman and she also speaks out quite a bit about like by erasure. 'cause I yeah she's identifies as bisexual. She speaks out about that. I like I like it yeah there. There's there God I that's all. I'll say I've had it. We're not going to do the second movie. It's the last time it'll come up on the show well should we determine whether or not the movie palaces to the US yes sure by our standards of just like to exchange yes us. I would not as much as it should about four women and every conversation they have even if there is a to on exchange that is not about a man that usually end up talking about a man eventually or the Christmas shadow loon is coming every subtexts. The context is almost always about men or relationship so it's not the best buy it does it. Does it squeaks. It squeaks when they're fat shaming cement for not actually living any different. It's whenever Samantha is a body Hair Shaming Miranda the big horrified by the first puke she's ever seen passes about. Dole test. It's not as we say it is not a perfect metric but a perfect big magic is our nipple skating. They Dang zero to five nipples based on its portrayal treatment representation of women for this. I I guess I'll give it like Whoa to is that sound good. I need validation from the crowd. Compare is it about a group of women celebrating. Their friendship is did it kind of did it. It help with the sex positivity movement arguably. Did it do a lot of aggressive stuff as well definitely Ya. It's just the fact that the women are just so all consumed by the men in their lives they are again. I would argue playing hang into the trope stereotype of like highly highly irrationally emotional women and being so over reactionary about everything thing the entire erasure of people of color. There's a quote the very beginning I think she's carries doing voiceover about the auction that they go to which is like poor about a woman getting divorced and having no one having nowhere to live even though she like was a model well and like all this stuff like clearly had money but meanwhile the homelessness problem in New York City. Is You know why don't they address that. They're not gonNA like all types of New York. Women go to and then you see the crowd and it's just like thin white rent rich mega mega and they're all they're buying the things of of a woman down on her six thousand dollars. It's very dark that whole strange revenge narrative so yeah I mean the there's some things to like about this. Samantha you know just wants to go out there and fuck and doesn't believe in relationships. Kerry hates needs to cook love those things everything else don't care for so I might even bump it down to one and a half Yup. Yeah I'm doing one and a half nipples also give one to Cynthia. Nixon and I'll give my half nipple to the dog who humps the pillow warning dog the dog name. I was just calling horny dog. Oh she name it. I just had like a funny name. The dog the dog street the children just incomparable I'm I'M GONNA. It's funny because I've been standing standing up for various Pablo's. I'm going to give it half an and if that I like this I mean this is like this especially. If we're talking about the movie the movie is reflecting watching the values of ten years ago so that's never going to bear. Well like it's just I mean sexist like it was empowered vaguely empowering people for you know. Oh like it up until like two thousand to maybe if you learn the elway came on and then there's there's so much more to like like see culture reflected in any way by the time this movie comes out that it's I mean the the only thing I mean the thing I can say for it. Is that it is. I four hundred class issues. The women have sex in the city are not here to fix homelessness they are it is a classic escape narrative. Which I think does do something for for a lot of people I mean I know like people in my life. Just like you know I'm a poor person in Massachusetts and it it is fun to like plug yourself into the problems of some random rich lady in New York and the escape narrative. I've not I mean I don't love it but it's it's like a lot of entertainment and sure no one is captain marvel but you can be for tours. They're they're not but so I I like I mean I don't like it but I I appreciate it issue. If this movie come out in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight I would have given him more nipples staples but it came out like we're leeway too late. Jennifer Hudson is criminally underused. I really like her and I look forward toward dreamgirls episode sticky about for a lot of the city and also it's also a personal slight at the movie. How dare it be two and a half hours John. How dare it truly furious if all the horrible things that happened in this movie how long it goes on is by far the most offensive thing yeah it will never watch it again but really do feel that she should have hit him with that bouquet in conclusion half nipple giving it to Lilly Lilly who should have had more than two lines of dialogue sure who boy. I'M GONNA give it three but now I can't so so I'll give it to nipples because yeah I guess you are right two thousand and eight. It's not woken up for Oh eight but I'm giving the nipples based on nostalgia and just you know the fun it gave me as a young girl in Indiana trying to watch some sax on cable very good again. Thank you so much for joining us this. I can't wait I. I can't wait to be back to do sex in the city to do I have I have high hopes for that. One Kaziro nipples fifty fifty cents. Tell us where people can follow you online. What would you watch listen. I just got my website fixed but you know what it was actually fixed by a woman in New York but a white woman and you can and go there. I don't update it so just twitter at Meghan Gaily Emmy John G. I L. E. Y. Or Gosh I really don't put that much on there. I feel like instagram. Stories is the new twitter and so my instruments better making gaily. There wasn't Meghan Gaily. I taught her a better one incredible uh give it up to mega one time to the Ruby for having us. Give it up to Sammy for AH. Give it up to the Ruby. Did I say that one already kate leads haircut yeah. Thanks for listening a couple things one. I wanted to clarify some things I said in the episode that I don't think I articulated elated as clearly as I wanted to. When I was talking about women's emotions and reactions in the movie I'm all for women expressing expressing emotion especially rage because rage is an emotion that women are historically not allowed to show I will once again recommend psoriasis Asia. Molly's book rage becomes her that goes into much more detail about that very topic. I am also all four women unleashing their rage on men when those men are behaving badly for this movie though I just felt that women's emotions were used as plot devices to add more drama to the story much the same way that the lead woman in the movie forty days and forty nights had wild nonsensical overreactions everything as a way to move the plot forward. We covered that movie. We talked about that on that episode. Go back to that for more of a discussion about that. I just don't like when that happens. In film where women's emotions and reactions are made to seem extremely over the top as as a way to propel the story forward and add more drama to this situation and that's what I felt happened in sex in the city the reactions they were having a different points in the story just felt to me more like stereotypical hysteria that you sometimes see in flat underdeveloped female characters because according to usually male writers women be hysterical so I just wanted to clarify my thoughts on that so thank you for bearing with me. I also wanted to say thank you to our guests on the show Megan gaily. She was awesome. Thanks to the Ruby for or having us. Thanks to Sammy for recording the live. Show thanks to everyone who attended the show. 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Episode 407 - Megan Gailey

Probably Science

1:10:27 hr | 8 months ago

Episode 407 - Megan Gailey

"Hello and welcome to probably science. My name is andy. would i'm mckesson. Hello there let's just jump straight into our guest. Because i i see no reason for an extended. Preamble down extended pre. It's the excellent and very very funny making gailey hay. Megan high smart cuties. I'm good how are you. i'm not. I'm not read it. It's all pretty good over here. Andy is a celeb- on that matt you are also a celebrity. Andy has been gracing. My tv i mean. He's the star of my favorite show. Currently so i think i didn't do a good enough job of staying on top of things social media wise the week. It was happening because i'll catch up to all this later and then like as soon as the last episode airs. Everything comes to an abrupt stop. I was like have backlog dmc to get through. But it's forgotten pretty quickly which is fine by me. It was a fun week so exciting day as the recording action. I mean yeah. That's i think we'll probably talk about that more with alex schmidt. We're going to have on next week. I believe who also did all five of is episodes in a day by the end of the day. You're just oh boy how. Gosh that's true. Marathon was alex does every day. So it's extra impressive. What do they record. If you'd won the last episode would you have taped the next batch of five th the next day or there being a few days off. No the so. Monday tuesday a non-combat actually even these times. Monday and tuesday jeopardy would tape a week's worth on each of those two days and then that entire crew turns over becomes the wheel of fortune crew for wednesday thursday friday. It's the same crew so they get through so that was. I think i was on a tuesday. So i think charlie alex will say we'll see you next week and if it's monday they'll see the next day but he actually did have. Charlie would have had five days off before his next episode. Take this is so fascinating to me. It's like it's just so cool. It was the think back on it. Because like watching the episodes you start to like change your memory of the actual thing experience because you change it to what you're seeing on tv and i'm like must have been fun. They were clapping. There was no. There was no applies. It was an empty. It was like a twilight zone thing where you're just doing this game in silence with just you two people. Alex the applause and things of that afterward. So how hard was it for you to probably less hard than like the real dark dark dark gone. But how hard was it for you to be like. I've got some fun banter bets. Like they're coming up with those like meter telling them ideas and they're like yeah that'll work. You have to give you a prompt a list of twenty or so prompts and you can give things that answer those and then they'll select produce like a handful. Give those to alex. He gets to pick whichever one he wants to talk about. So you know which of the four or five he'll pick from amongst. But then i said this before but i really just wanted to make sure my stuff was short. Even if it wasn't funny i just go. Rambo have one of these that guy who's like a bunch of friends and i we ought to of the country's just just watch his eyes glazing over. You're almost like as a comic jeff. They punch up on staff just for these people to give them like in the story on the laugh. Then you get out you know just general now it's also part of why put my bio. It's just. I don't want to have comedian pressure to have to say something funny and those. I just wanna play this game and not barest myself. I wanna be a normal smart person you know not a little joker writers generally my go-to occupation if Anytime i have to give a job such a dick saying comedian is like it just feels like say like i'm always funny myemma a professional person especially on like an airplane or something so next to you. Ask what you do. That's that's the worst thing i in that situation. I don't even know right. Try i know when he just pick either a very dull occupation like insurance. Just or i go with jazzercise instructor road. Of course you've got some prepared. Follow either those things. If i ask you what the last class taught in jazzercise was. Yeah it was a chess assigned to a jazzercise class. I'm familiar studied to put jazz into the exercise. Oh yeah i'm in bebopper size. It's a little more free form. I see those. I'll say writer this actually to me. Recently i said writer and the guy was like what kind of things do you like to write. I was like. I don't know. I guess comedy and he was like. Are you a comedian. And i'm like yes like coated it. And then and then he goes me and i was like this is worse. Case scenario yeah. You're someone that i've never heard of. Who is also a comedian. So this is going to be less. Yes and i should have known like when he knew what he was like. What are you like to write. I should've been like this is a trap. I should say textbooks or something all like. I write copy for websites. Yeah yeah i write breitbart news. Thank you so megan. All this before we get into the stories. What if anything is. You'll background in science and that has ranged from clauses. You'd like to hate it as a kid to use to blow stuff up in the woods with your friends. Yes so science was hands down my worst subject. Yeah i was like eight straight. As and everything. And then i just fell apart but i went to a elementary school that was a magnet school for science and technology and now i am terrible at science and technology so i do don't know if my parents getting me in there was worth it but i'm happy i got to go there but yeah i basically had to like squeak by in in high school chemistry and then shows a major in college that i would not have to take a lab science ever again. What was your major. I was theater and a communications major. That's a we've had a lot of those on the show with comedians. Yes we did have to take a science. But we did so i took like horticulture and that was very fun and then i took entomology. The study of bugs and our teacher was like a consultant for fear factor. So he was really cool he actually was but it was like a five hundred person lecture hall and the entire football team and then all of the liberal arts majors in there right so to kissing jokes basically yes exactly and i walked in and i was like this is where i belong but i had to have we part at one of our projects. I had to have a pet cockroach. Who lived in my dorm like a little plastic home and my cockroach actually ended up being pregnant and i got so freaked out that i released her in the wild wants experience. The miracle now. I was like i am not ready to be a cockroach foster mom. I love the idea that your professor is an expert and insects and has laid that expertise. Just like what are you. What are you ready. Specialize in the insect world knowing which ones are best joe rogan to put on his face. And i'm sure he had other career qualifications are like cooler but in my eighteen year old brain. That was the only one that stuck out. Oh no definitely. Did you go to college in the region no. I went to a big ten school. I went to purdue indiana so that this teacher also explain which of the bugs were. Edible proponent of food source that's what he specialized in was no wing. Like what bugs you could eat. And what bugs were it kill you and did any was already part of the class that involved. If you want to hear some bugs you can eat or not. I think so yes. I definitely feel that was offered at some point because you have not eaten a bug. I have eaten a bug. I think i feel like. I've eaten a grasshopper i think. Grasshoppers have yeah. Was it hard to get through the crunchiness. Was it a strange christmas. I didn't i didn't like it. There was a thing at the london science museum. They have this new year's eve they do it every and they have like a new year's eve thing at the science museum and a friend of mine is in the band the place so okay cool hookups. So i'm one of the one of the displaced so you know it's like kind of policy and downs policy in the museum but they also have bits of the museum open and some demonstrations and stuff like that and one of the things was it will bugs and they had a little tray with a sample of a bunch of them and some of them were just some of would like a sort of salty snack just tasted almost like just some kind of savory snack mix and then a karma bewitched one. There was one that tasted like dried. Mushrooms had that real sort of muscle to it. Yeah the haunt. I've remembered where eight above. Okay so i was on this net flicks high cooking show. I saw that. And so i was on the one that was like new food and i i was like why am i remember. I was with like two. Nba legends nate robinson. And john salley and we were served a play of crickets and we ate them. They were like in the one was in like a cracker. It was it was insane but we also had. We'd infusing them. I can't believe. I forgot that i was like i have. And it's like yeah. I got high in eight bugs with nba legend out brain. You're exposed right. Yes big time. Fan of specifics athletes beforehand You know. I knew they were absolutely john. Sally was on the bad boys of the pistons. That like predated pacers love but the pistons are like a major issue in my world because that's where the malice at the palace took place and it was up was the artist punching but john salad was not on that team. I i sure knew who he was. And i definitely knew who nate robinson was and i thought they were like the coolest they were there. They are a list former athletes. Definitely i'm from ann arbor so i'm not even a big sports guy but yeah the bad boys with like beer and isaiah. I guess very bad was he. No he was the one that got the most madda of the batboys. Thirty for thirty is actually really good. I mean they're all really. I say actually because i thought i was going to hate it because i was a terrible part of the indianapolis pacers organization to and i loved it. You come out of it being like oh isaiah was a bit of a victim. Interesting way. I guess. I didn't know i thought it was just kind of like a nice guy leader. I didn't know what he was known as. Well he just sort of anyone that was like mad at the image and it was all. We watch a lot of these things down. You're like oh. It was very racially motivated. But i was a young girl in indiana. So i guess i didn't understand that layer yet but there was a lot of hatred directed at the pistons because they did play different and they were put in the mouth in your face and because isaiah was the most famous of the team he got the wrath of of hatred directed at him even though he was the least quote unquote bad of the bad boys interesting. Did you ever play beers. Combat basketball for super nintendo. No i think he's in wnba coach right now who numb and it's so like he's fascinating to me and there's people like old. I mean he's old. He's an elder now and people still like franklin he really brings it out at people. He was a real brawler like he would face right. Oh yeah oh yeah. That's that's the extent of what i know about sports. We've now all answer. Wasn't even i wasn't even going to train shoehorn my interests i i am a blank science slate and i it all to wash over me. I i was going to. We've got stories sent in by listeners. Book while you were talking. I was just looking up a futile bug stories because given we were already talking about that and new scientists has a couple of this week. So i'm going to put this one in the show. This is him this one. Just more information about how bees fly which is still. I think not fully known but honeybees conflict sideways to fit through tight gaps. That idea there's little fat be has to turn on its site just kind of like went through a doorway bumblebees adorable. Bumblebees changed the flight patterns differently. When they have to posture a tight space based on their size indicating that they have some idea of their own size and shape despite this simple nervous systems. I didn't know that that was even a consideration. That i thought about that is one of the first things that moles and creatures no but to mo- most insects have bodied morphine. Actually i've just subscribed to new science. I'm getting a push alerts now. This oh yeah you'll get them for life now to test with a bs or aware of size. Sri ravi at university of new south wales in sydney and colleagues connected full hypes to tunnels through. Which buff tailed bumblebees again. What a name. Buff tailed a bomb. Bus terrestrial had to fly in order to reach foods that in place to wool in the middle of the tunnel partially blocking off but leaving a gap for the beast of slip through as the beast flew up to the will they fit it back and forth to get a better look at the gap and then tilted themselves over to get through without smashing their wings into the wool. The research is a sorry go for it. I just find be so fascinating and so cute. I love bees. The hell they do still scammy but they all but they are adorable if you're not if they're not landing or flying up your leg they don't even scare me. I know inside your closed. They don't scare you. Maybe the the one they really scare me if they like swimming to like drink and you know like that's a real fear but other than that i guess i've just been like stone enough and they're just so cute cute need at. This is true. Drink thing i forgot. That was a big urban legend. Growing up happened was about some kid drinking and not seeing that it was in his can and then it just wrote and he's allergic. Yeah yeah i think it was on rescue nine one one because i feel like i've definitely see it. Seen a dramatic reenactment of a child drinking pepsi with. I'm now looking up something. Because i i'm wondering where this is something that i've completely made up imagines a mess with a bee stings. Make you less susceptible to arthritis. I seem to remember reading is ago. That beekeepers Less likely to have rheumatoid arthritis as they get older interesting. Now all of my guy friends from high school now have hives and make honey really interesting also really interesting. What hometown again. I'm from indianapolis. I would not have guessed that. That is a stereotype about indianapolis. I wouldn't have either. There was there was one guy friend who got really into it. And then i think there were some other friends that had land so it sort of maybe started with one person but I get. I get incredible honey given to me all the time. These friends have waxed moustache. As i'm trying to picture what some of them are like one is like really burt like mountain man asking he makes his own jerky and stuff to one is like the original honeybee masters like a hunk is a tall hunk. They're all kinds of hunky punks. And then you go hug. Honey's yes that's a fireman. Calendars played out. I think beaten counters could be keeper and the thing is you could totally keep their faces out of it wear their little head thing and we just see the ads into this idea or or beekeeper burlesque because there's so many layers if you start with the full beekeeper protective suit you could slowly appeal that off and then you just released bees into the. Yeah exactly by the way i still. I don't know why no one's done cove burlesque yet where you just take off a series of progressively smaller face masks until you just have nostril. Tassels would pay for that so bee venom according to web. Md is given a shot for be sting allergy. Okay that makes sense but it is also used for osteoarthritis parkinson's disease multiple stores is paying another conditions. But there is no good scientific evidence to support these uses Okay so doesn't work. It definitely does reduce your potential to be which makes sense but yeah there is apparently no clear evidence yet that it has a positive effect on any of these other conditions. Okay good i was going to go out and get stung a bunch. Skeptical that simpson scene where they think the These is the key i'm cured. I mean oh yeah so. These researchers observed full hundred flights by the b.'s. And found that the amount they tilted depended on the relative sizes of the gap and the bees lodge be going through small gaps even flew on this sites. Stacey koon at university of california davis says is not that they have a sense of self or would recognize themselves in the mirror but they do seem to have a better sense of their size and shape than we thought. This is similar to how people animals with more complex brains perceive the will says winning warrant at brown university. When you look at a gap you need to walk through you. Calibrate that information to your body size. This emphasizes the university in how we perceive the world from insects to humans and coon says. It's may seem like a no brainer. But it's actually surprisingly complex calculation for simple animals. Be capable of kids sometimes scared to be in the bathtub when you open up the drain. Because they're scared to go down the drain. She said stupid kids. I know unless they've been watching. Stephen king's it. You don't have that understanding how big they are compared to the world around them. It surprising that these do tae. I mean just ending the article with a straight up dunk on tom. Your kit mississippi knows what to do. And you you're gonna fall down a drain kayla. Oh my god. It's like he wanted to. It's like he wanted to raise kids. He's like what's something. I couldn't do that. Kids don't know how to do. But if i can prove bees do i could make fun of scientists like. Who do we sick this antiquated writer on this article. I also didn't know brown was in rhode island. God i guess for. I don't know what i was thinking. It makes sense now. There's there's another insect story that i'm also checking on that 'cause this was also linked to from the same new scientists from page illness. Moss have acoustic camouflage the protects them from bats. Ila smart which i wasn't aware was a specific thing. Have sound absorbent wings that act as acoustic camouflage from praying bats the moth wings have an ultra thin layer of scales that absorb sounds and could be adapted for noise cancelling technology mock holderied at university of bristol in britain says and his colleagues project his sound waves at the wings of two species of ila smaltz. That's here we go. Here's an latin anthony up her knee and that tila sarah's luciana they found that the sound waves that bounce back from the most wings were much quieter by using an imaging technique quote acoustic topography. The team found that these wings have lay a layer of scales that arranged in the special repeating pattern. That absorbs sounds Across a wide range of frequencies similar to how stealth bombers are less detectable by enemy radars. The months have developed a stealth coating against the bat. Sonar says holderied the most wings which around the tenth of a millimeter thick absorb the specific sound waves produced by bats. So yeah bats it into this surroundings. Abusing echo location. As i think most of his new they send out sound waves and when the sound hits an object and echoes produced the bats use these echoes to build a measure their environments because the ill is not swings absorb the sound waves. They remained largely undetected improving their chances of survival. So that really is like a stealth plane so no other. Moths have ultrasensitive is to hit batsmen. The deaf Sound absorbent latte to evade the predators hold read and his team also compared the months with two species of butterflies and found that only the most have the sound absorbing qualities although these wings wings yeah although these wings only absorb sounds like bats it could be adapted for human sound frequencies says akito kara hala of the florida museum of natural history this capri of useful in applications such as sound absorb panels and noise canceling earphones. Some magic a few years time. If you're a yellow bose headphones have Just a little chamber of months in them now. Flopping around i love it or on the outside look like these awesome scales which are pretty. I mean you can link through. You can click on the link to this article in our show notes and see the three d. printed representation of these the moth wings scale patterns. I'm assuming these colors. The colors of the moths. yeah. I'd imagine that color coded by whatever type of the shape of the different scales but yeah. I'm happy for them that they have something over butterflies too. That's true the only time they win in that. Yeah and it's like. Oh listen we're not gonna get we don't we're not that colorful but we're not gonna get eaten by bats. No-one still like a month park and have a picnic amongst the moth soon. But they got the mothman prophecies. And but then i guess they have the butterfly effect. Dammit tolerate the both got movie franchises. What is the moth man's prophecy. Oh it's really scary. It's a horror film about. I don't even know. It may be a little bit sci fi but it's so scary you don't remember any of this specific what he prophesied this buff man. I remember richard gere. I think And then like bad stuff happens like yeah. I think it was so traumatizing. Me as a child blocked some of it out but forget it was better. I didn't think there's a horrible. The mothman dislike prophesying. The stock market going up or something. He's he's wants makeup like a bridge broke like there was like a traffic jam on a bridge and the mothman said break it up. I can't remember what the mothman who looks like. Our what was happening the leucopenia for the movies. The plot is too long to try to rush through. But yes doesn't have richard gere. Is john klein. The mothman who is the moth mad. That's what i can't remember. I think it's i think it's honestly i remember just like a bunch of is appearing. There is only maybe these moths form into a man. I'm just gonna assume it's the movie is a bunch of maltese. Become the voltron man. Give you prophecies. I'm not gonna read this plot summary but yeah in general. Butterflies do win. It's good to have just one one w for the moths collectively. This may be wonder. Oh the bats. Are you scared of bats. Yes i think bats are terrifying. Even an awful. No they freak me out in austin when they're like come see the bats under this bridge. Hell no i i think of that as like bloodsucking a see them. And i'm instantly afraid. Yeah are there any species that actually want to mess with humans. Maybe i'm being too overly positive about whether they ever pose a risk to us but that's risk to humans. I it's low. It's there's something psychological happening with me. The can carry bacteria and viruses can harm humans but the risk of infections low people who are not trained vaccinated should not handle bats. Well handling. I'm just talking. They're not gonna like fly into your hair or whatever it is. People think that the sleeping upside down. The nocturnal is very creepy. Bear comprised of pictures of people bottle feeding baby beds. That's pretty acute right. No freaks me out. Freaks me out and i've met like a sloth and i was like you're great. I love you know bats freak me out but i bet that feeling. I'm i'm fine with bats. I slept in the back cave in thailand malaysia. We were bent on some two or three day. Jungle hike with a guide and one of the nice was sleeping in a bat cave with all the gadgets and the caused everything. I was gonna that you were a distant relative of the butler and so you got invited. There for like a sleepover how it works. It's all about who you know. I wonder if they ever airbnb out. Some some of the wings of of the. Yeah i mean it seems like a waste so much space there could be just so much revenue throwing money away. No another story loaded up. Because i got another story loaded out. Yeah i've got a story from sean robertson about new moon rocks do it. You guys. Fans of moon rocks. Yeah well china is going to be retrieving. The first moon rocks that that humans have gotten since nineteen seventy s or. at least. That's their plan yet. It's hoped the unmanned change. I'm sorry would probably be chung e five probe. We launched on tuesday. It'll bring back samples to help understand the moons formation the last mission of its kind luna twenty four by the soviet union in nineteen seventy six. Isn't that crazy. It's been that long since we've touched they. Just i mean there were some issues down on earth between seventy six and twenty twenty. If this latest probe successful china will become the third country to retrieve lunar rock after the us and the ussr and the chung e assuming it's c. h. g. apostrophe five chang chung e five spacecraft named after the ancient chinese goddess of the moon will be launched a long march five rocket. Those are all capitalized type of rocket. The pro bowl attempt to collect two kilograms of samples from an as yet unvisited area of the moon called the ocean of storms. In comparison the nineteen seventy six mission collected. One hundred seventy grams and the apollo mission that put man on the moon brought back row. What's three hundred eighty two kilograms of rocks and soil. Wow big difference. One hundred seventy grams or three hundred eighty two kilograms and moon rocks must be. There's almost almost a thousand pounds of moon out there on earth. that's crazy. i not anymore. I had to depart them. Give me some of mind. But i don't see i get it. Experts are hoping shaggy five will a better understanding. Give a better understand how long this is. The bbc article weird. We'll give a better understand. How long movement remain volcanically active and when it's magnetic field essential in protecting any life radiation dissipated china. I mean it's first lunar landing in twenty thirteen plans to retrieve samples from mars within a decade. But again they're going for just two kilograms after we brought that back in the seventies and like we don't want to share you know it it does seem kind of sake that they've got to go get their own rocks when we already have some. Yeah we can just share. But also i was thinking like it's always super expensive to to get anything into orbit but i guess considering less expensive just to get something off of the moon's surface and return it it'd be it'd be expensive as hell to send four hundred kilograms out from earth but earth with the moon's gravity being so much less. Maybe it's not that crazy. Try to lift four hundred kilograms off of there but Good luck to china and china as they say in monroe collection industry rock on accessory. I bring this story. Because i saw it reported in a bunch of places but it's i'm still many scientists website so why not use the version. Because i don't eat mate and this is a it's generally a more healthy lifestyle but according to a recent study meat free diets linked with greater risk of breaking bones. Okay so maybe. This is a reason to really get into crickets and insect. That's That's considered not meet those anna. They're not plants. No i know. But you know i think there are a number of people who are some version. Vegetarian who wouldn't have as many issues with eating. Yes the meat meat free diets as greater risk of breaking bones. I was hearing at the opposite way. Yes people who don't eat meat are more risk breaking bones especially the hips. According to the largest study at this risk from lack of calcium and protein in the diet as what is the fact that they tend to be thinner and have less fleshed kushner fool. And i think they tend. I mean this may be like a weird stupid stereotype. But they seem like they would be the people that would be like climbing mountains and stuff like i just them as more adventurous people right as the ones who break their hips. The people that don't eat me. You doesn't break specifically it doesn't say what proportion of these hip Hips broken from taking an instagram photo of you. Doing a one hand in hand on the top of a cliff breaking your hip i mean as an. I'm an elder lover. I love our older population. When you break a hip that tends to be sort of like the beginning of the end. It's a really dramatic break. We talked about this on. I forgot what episode but one when we talked about space travel. Maybe it was with mary. Roach maybe chris hadfield but the thing about the reason hip breaks happen is because bones strengthen along the access that there That you apply stresses so like your your leg. Bones are strong longitudinal because they're constantly being compressed and so they strengthen along that access but you never really have impact latitude from the side of the words for it in your hips. You're hip bones. Don't have any strength horizontally. So the first time you fall on your and hit directly on the ground that's why but if you could say saying maybe even as a way of sort of keeping bones is one of the problems travels at your bones weak in and along every access. Because they're not. Being stressed repeatedly do small falls on your hips sort of strengthen them or just pay someone punch you in the hip. Great yeah theoretically that does strengthen the bonuses counterintuitive because it's not really an injury you see in football a lot and those. I mean they're like being run into fall laying. You don't even see in baseball that much so like i guess that does sort of prove you can build up stronger hit bounds. If needed or are they even. How many of them really take any blows on their hips. It seems like all the people who are good at falling in their sports fall on shoulders and things that are put. Football like a quarterback will be who sacked will be cloud into your from the site. Sometimes without you hear so much about the knees it's yearly the needs the number one thing and i have to imagine. The hips are because a lot of times. The are even non contact injuries. They're just like look up. This yeah and so the hip. The hip is cranking along pretty. Well yeah until you stop eating meat or get old. I guess yeah so so. Several previous studies have shown that vegetarians have weaker bones. The meat eaters but it was unclear if this had any meaningful effect on the risk of fractious. The new research took advantage of a long-running study called epic oxford originally setup to look at whether diet influences the risk of cancer by following the health of about sixty five thousand people in the uk from nineteen ninety-three omelettes. The study recruited people's typical diet and track their health route through hospital records by twenty ten. Vegans had broken hip at over twice the rate of meat eaters while vegetarians fishy has had a small increase in risk about twenty five percent. Vegans but not vegetarians and pesca terriers also had a high risk of breaking other bones. The overall level of risk vegans was relatively smoke equating to about an extra twenty broken. Puff thousand people over ten years but the fracture rate is likely to be higher in the elderly. Who break hips more often. As the average age of participants at the state was forty five says research at tiny tongue at the university of oxford. when people's diets were analyzed. Meat meat has consumed more calcium and protein. Calcium is an important component of bones. Protein may aids calcium. Absorption from food song said unless they are actively supplementing. It's quite unlikely. The vegans we'll have sufficient intake of calcium just from the diet but it is possible that people eating a vegan diet today may have high accounting levels in the nineteen ninety s. There was less falsification of plum milks. She says and then headline that Yeah and then heather the russell. A dietitian vegan society in the uk says is suddenly took off your bones on a well planned vegan diet but people need information to make healthy choices studying. The same group of people previously shown that being a vegetarian is linked with about ten percent lower risk of cancer after fifteen years and about a twenty percent lower risk of heart disease but also a twenty percent higher. Risk of a stroke. I never knew that. Hurt that personal in blamed now Stroke a wonder. wow. I don't know if i would take that bargain. Twenty percent decrease in increase in another ten percent. Lower risk of cancer is good decrease. But but let's say a very common thing as you get older but like heart disease. You almost feel a little bit more in the driver's seat on. I guess there's family like the genetics and family history but a stray twenty percent higher. Risk of a stroke feels like you're control. I wonder what the actual mechanism behind that would be. But maybe you a meter i am. I am to whatever and i do. I have talked about like wanting to phase out it's tricky. My husband is like deathly allergic to all seafood. And so that is like. I don't know there are just making excuses. I want to phase it out. And like i saw resou- i've done i'm doing more. Please meet so. I'm making changes for sure. But i haven't fully given up my my burgers and chicken pork chops. Children matt do you do any supplemental things or do you worry about any kind of like missing nutrients nope i don't but also i'm not vegan. I'm just vegetarian. So i think a lot of those things you know. I still eat dairy products. Woke said quite a lot even eggs. I still eat so that scott a lot of the same proteins as meet a lot of women suffer from anemia. And i know that Has had like because like i get a lot of iron from red like my mom's nurse and she has told me like if you are craving red meat. You should probably have some because of lake. My anemia often decree road meat. I don't actually crave that autumn. Probably like once or twice a month. Yeah i'll be like ooh i need. Yeah my body's telling me something That tried told you that. I tried it for like two years or so. That's a long time ago. A trip to peru ended that too hard to find stuff on this journey. I'm just gonna eat some guinea pig or whatever but others. no. I think that's what makes me feel guilty. Is that in la. It's so easy to eat vegetarian or even vegan. And i still. It's not like. I'm in the middle of indiana i could. There's so many options but it's it's still annoyingly more expensive. Get still if you go through like if you just go through a drive through and what the veggie burger rather than the meat boga. Even if it's not a place that has the even more expensive if his place it has like the beyond bug or the impulsive kind those ones but even just the regular veggie burger the plausible deals going to be. Yeah exactly like even if you get a like mushroom burger will. They don't tend to have those college junior or something like that right Got showed even even still sometimes. It doesn't seem she angrily more expensive to have vegetarian food unless you really basic well. It's it's more expensive to eat healthy too. Yeah oh totally to juggle. We know that which particularly being on the road as comex where yeah. You're you can be incredibly limited on your options and good luck getting solid after ten pm right but even then you still get a burger and fries louis. Cats has been about that. I don't know if i have. I think i probably for ten bucks. You can get like three full meals at mcdonalds or or make a down payment on some rubella. I have seen that jerk now. Now you mentioned that it's love just the just the use of that word is. Have you ever tried making your own. I don't know if that's the thing at all but making your own plant based burger patties at home. i haven't either. I just wonder if it's like a thing. Can you just chop up. Or maybe blend of. I haven't were also the ones even the professionally produced ones like that. I don't like oh. I'm having a veggie burger. I want it to be mostly soy based and tastes like shitty burger. Be be like it'd be under impossible bug where they've made a bit more to make. It tastes like meat but like the ones that just like being burgers or like mixed vegetables. Patsies yeah just are they just they always just have this weird texture. That just dixon. Your mouth is tonight. I'm not. I don't know how they would make him congenial right unless you threw an egg in there something sort of dry and sticky at the same time then. I don't know how they managed good. Yeah what's burned your steeple. What are you eating mostly during covid matt not enough like i genuinely not enough like i've been trying to put on weight again like i think i'm the only one who lost weight during like to a warring amount during lockdown. I've got some weight. You can have that. I that i put on like five pounds this weekend and you can have that louis. You're doing full-on home cooking or like some premade thing. I do a lot of stock up once a month at traderjoes done in brings and eat out freezer. Mostly it's good food but it's mostly freeze. That's what i started doing again. But at the beginning of lockdown. I wasn't going anywhere near a trader joe's or anything like that so i think that was partly the issue. I just didn't have as much access to really easy food. So everything was like a god white ball making a proper meal and then it just becomes ten pm and i haven't just easier to go to sleep without your dinner years. You know have a light snack enough to stop yourself from feeling faint but not enough to not lose my stone over the course of several months. Wait wait what's this stone fourteen pounds. Yep you've lost fourteen pounds. i had. It's like half of it's back again now. You s. fourteen pounds. Yeah why your thin. Yeah wow yeah so. I just suddenly weighed myself halfway through lockdown on like this is oh this is bad. This doesn't go to what is your. You're not a big. You don't really drink much right. i mean. I don't i'm not so i'm not total i but that wouldn't be a significant amount of calorie intake. Your i think it probably is to an extent because also you know if you go out if i go out. I probably about two or three times a week and even just meeting some of you guys ajay's ball which is walking distance my house and having a couple of beers and may be having a the some of the food as well or a piece of during covid. No no this is outside of during during covid. Oh yeah yes like. I'm about to bust you jays open. I'm moving back to l. a. Today know jesus very much very close. It's think of element is setup for cova cheeses. Close forever the forever forever. Yeah oh shit i mean. Speaking of they had a great pirker had great menu specials. Every two posthumous plug for restaurant. We could i deceived. If we just talked it up on the podcasts. That are just these other places. We go out closed. Who's going to start the before times. Podcast that just reminisces about. Yeah tell our kids about. Yeah guitar center. Guitar greg combet. It's the fucking saddest like they let you in april so it was like prime or like the peak of everyone's cautioned but they will let you in one at a time and then like you can't touch a guitar until someone else brings it down for you and cleans it up so that you're not going to like really play that many guitars because of the level of effort required for the guy to do the prep and then the deep rep so you're never really going to browse anyway squad. Kobe centers the list. But it was just a sad said. There are little like sad things that pop up like that that you're like i knew this doesn't really matter but when you combine all of these tiny sad things that don't matter they're one giant thing do matter. Yeah yep that's hey you know what else. Miss salad bars i love like. I'm i love a salad bar. I love a buffet. I mean it's like true hoosier in me coming out and it's gone forever now. I wonder when there ever will be buffets again or if we'll start to exist gradually but they will at least a i be. There will be someone at the food station serving food which i like. Actually that. I prefer that. I do like that because even pre covid just to the things you see at a buffet were put onto that place like picks it up and then just goes now and it just puts it back in the trade pact plexiglass. Oh yeah even at the like at the grocery stores you see that and you're like what is happening. I mean there was a time in my life in chicago where i just sort of casually stole food off. The whole foods are not as a means of survival. in ralph's. Two days ago. I saw a young woman take mall pskov to cough and then put back on go. I'd heard of people doing. And i hadn't seen it with my own eyes. And i i don't know if you heard me say what the fuck you doing like. Just leave it like just pulled it down off a face a little bit cough twice and then put it by company at no. You don't deserve ralph's. You got a lifetime ban from ralph's. Yeah you're either. You gotta go to volunteer now lady. You're going to go to john's how about that. Yeah yeah You know what else is long gone. What is no longer with us. T rex and triceratops and specifically the first ever complete team skeleton which is found offer fell to its death in a deadly joel with a triceratops. This story in metro senate by the robinson thinks have a scientists. Reveal the wills. I ever complete t. rex tillerson. So we didn't yeah. Each of the sixty seven million year old remains are among the best ever found and have only been seen by a select few people. They were discovered in two thousand and six. What fourteen years. They've been hiding this thing. I think they were waiting for a really bad year. Yes they found. We've got the pet nicknamed the juuling. Dinosaurs are preserved together in what is thought to be a predator. Prey encounter with both fought to the death entombed in sediment montana by professional fossil hunters a cattle rancher cowboy and two pals. How is that that's a set to. Cbs sitcom yeah. Just professional fossil hunters whose job not fossil hunters right right unless the capital of this person is. Wrenching is very much also. Mice is is over a million years old. Incredibly de body outlines skin impressions injuries. How how do we go. What dinosaurs a million loss. The points of. When did i form on earth that was largely life like eukaryotes not the the things with nuclear. We learned this. This summer met on celebrity substitute. The first truly having any the first of any life i think was within the first billion years of earth's four and a half billion years but that was like single cell. A eukaryotes are the ones that have nuclei right. So i shouldn't have sixty five million years ago is when the dinosaurs went extinct that we go off going on earth for about one hundred and sixty five million years but tons of life obviously preceded that billions of years but not billions of years of vertebrates things so incredibly that body outlined skin impressions and injuries including toronto. Soul teeth stuck in detroit. Sarah body can still be seen. It took years to extract the fourteen tonnes skeletons and arranged the purchase and sale. So it put. This is about like when they could get it on ebay. Basically so it's reported by only a few dozen people who've seen them so far but this week it has been announced. They have been bought by the friends of the north carolina museum of natural sciences. For an undisclosed sum. The group has donated them to the museum. Which is due to stop building their exhibition in two thousand twenty one. Well that's a real. That's what a real friend does. Yeah yeah buys you. Raise a mega mega mega million dollar fighting. Dinosaurs gives you like the museums being light looking in the shop window for years thinking one day one day. It's just not in the shop window anymore and the museums. Like someone's and then it's the museums birthday. Open up the president's this is a real like. Isn't it ironic alanis morissette. I mean they were fighting to try and kill each other and then they both died and forever are linked together. They can't get. I mean it's it's it's the first murder suicide so mexican stand-off was in mexico sixty five million years ago montana cliff fight as it's now known right right and the picture of the picture. The first picture that shows the teeth with that was just so it just looked so fake. It looks like a movie prop. It's crazy how detail that is really. Cool the one with the ribs clause. I mean it's definitely a full thing is being described as one of the most important Paleontological discoveries of all time and is the only one hundred percent complete t. rex ever found. I did not know that don't lindsay. Zano had paleontology at the museum. Said we have not yet studied this specimen it is a scientific frontier the preservation s phenomenal. And we plan to use every technological innovation available to reveal new information on the biology of the t. rex and triceratops. This fossil will forever change of you of wealth to favorite dinosaurs. I think we all big data gratitude to satan for placing this piece of fake evidence to try to an extra hundred million years ago. The eric dorfman director ceo of the museum at its museum is thrilled to have the unique opportunity to house them. Research one of the most important paleontological discoveries of time not only are we able to uncover Unknown details of these animals are not to me behavior but a new dedicated facility and educational programs will allow us to engage with audiences locally across north carolina and worldwide. That's good copy there now. Is montana a dinosaur fossil hotspot. Believe so isn't that. Were those two guys that brooks was obsessed with. Who were the fossil wars guys who were trying to sabotage each other's digs pro. That this is a pretty funny. I forgot if they made a movie about it. Or maybe they're talking about making a will. Ferrell john c reilly movie but i believe those guys were active in the wyoming montana area. Let me see fossil wars the bone wars. I should say this like if someone was like. Where do you think those dinosaur fossils are. I'd have. I'd have no. Yes so i wouldn't have been even but yeah no and the planes or the rocky Cope and marsh were looking in colorado nebraska and wyoming from eighteen. Seventy seven to eight thousand ninety two and they had some really funny disputes. That talked about in the past. I'm trying to find a quick example of any of the sabotage. They did to each other. So i hadn't realized how political dinosaur bones are. I figured once it's discovered is just in the public domain. Someone owns them but they still kind of release the photos in the and the research but no so this ranch his friends and his cousin or his friend and his cousin found the fossils in two thousand six and it's reported they came to a deal with landowners. The juuling dinosaurs themselves went to auction at twenty three tina bonhams in new york but no bid met the six million dollars of price tam. During years negotiations the fossil was reportedly locked away in labs or warehouses but thanks to donors the nonprofit friends of north carolina. Museum natural scientists has now bought them on behalf of the museum. The dinosaur caucuses have not been studied and researched entombed within sediment from the montana. Hillside where they were discovered. So you have a legal claim if you if they're found on property on yes and but not if you find was when it has reached a deal with the with the landowners like gets the rights to where they have to share it so each phone in this fossil is in its natural position museum. Scientists will have access to biological data. That is typically lost in the excavation and preparation processes. Wow you i mean. There must be lawyers that special specialized in like fossil deals. I'm sure they're all yeah. It seemed it does seem like a thing where i just assumed some kind of like eminent domain. Whatever that's called happens as soon as you find something like this just to make sure that no civilian starts to go. Chipping away at it with like a phillips head screwdriver. Just so much could be lost by incompetence because it's privately owned that. I thought somehow something happens as soon as excavating team comes into. This is ours. Now don't touch with your the feds. Come in yeah. It's like an a movie when a murder happens. Send like the town. Sheriff's like we're gonna solve this and then like a helicopter lands and get out outta here. Get your cheeto encrusted fingers. But yeah so. It's gonna continue to do the excavation once it's been purchased by a real professor or in this in this north carolina Guardian tickle hair which won't necessarily be america's specific the. I've just found says to collect on not to collect a fossil hunting laws hurting science. The collecting of fossilized remains of animals. Plants is often limited by law to prevent overexploitation and vandalism what is best for science how many of us by saying picked up a fossil bone on the beach pretty rough with imprint of a modest got on the side of the side of the road or even a reptile tooth in a stone quarry. I know i have and who's writing nece. Who's who's discovered this hanukkah mia and it sparked my fascination with the natural world. Let me down the long winding path of a career in paleontology. picking up. small fossil's child seems harmless enough. What what when you when you stub your toe on. Something rat and spectacular. Would you put it above the fireplace to be admi- for fraternity at what you tried to sell it for a good price. That's where things become more. Tricky lost year the fuss ally. The fulsome of a snake with four legs made headlines worldwide. But not only because it was the first time the world sore four legged snake the specimen have been found in the crato formation in brazil. An area that has yielded spectacularly well preserved fossils and payment until the fossil specimen in two thousand twelve parts of private collection in germany since brazil had made the experts at fossils illegal nine hundred forty. Two discovery spoke to legal investigation. How did it end up in germany. And if it had been exploited legally should scientists be involved in such practices. So yeah there's a whole so. The united states bureau of land management prohibits any commercial collection of from public lands but it does allow collecting for personal use and germany. Recently it up to the cultural property protection act severely restricts the collecting of and trade in fossils. It just seems like so much of the. Us is owned privately. Owned you know like. I know that there's massive national parks and state parks and stuff but it doesn't it seems like the amount of privately owned land. There's probably a lot of dinosaurs in there. Yeah just saying this article who whether the the finder or the landowner owns it and sixty percent of the us is privately owned land wise. I don't know if it's more or less than i thought so. Forty that's less. You think thought it was more of the. Us was held in sixty percent. Yeah yeah. I mean looking out my front window here. The i'm seeing a lot of blm land. But i don't live. Where do you guys do. I've found a long article about the legality of fossil hunting. But it will be the entire rest of the episode. Study going into this now. We have time for just one more anyway. I actually have to run in ten minutes or so. So i get. I have to get a test. Oh nice how often do you do that. Oh i ended up doing it probably once a month is a pretty easy though in. La yeah yeah very very easy with how fast in and out once you get to the place this place. I'm going to today you. You like park and then you actually get out of your car and walk up and like swab yourself in ten by yourself. And the last time i went it was three minutes and then i had the result back in twenty four hours. That's great. I thought maybe it was still A mess up there. There's lines at dodgers stadium and it seems like there. The lines extra-long this week but I think l. a. and california as whole pretty good test the place in the evening going on and it's like lincoln something okay from the house. Lives out in the mojave desert. The place in twenty nine palms is amazingly fast. And i've never seen another human in there. Who besides the employees. That's ninety seconds door to door from leaving my car back in my car so yeah. They've got they've got down here although the fact that no one ever their worries me. Because i'm gonna take advantage of this. Then we could all be moving more quickly towards a more normal world if everyone just did it every week. If it's free anyway. I think that would be helpful if we just yes. I think it would accept full. The thing i'd be worried about everyone was getting tested. Constantly is the fact that they're all full s- negatives and we'll say you can get infected off the tests and before the results and get your negative test. You you go crazy and party with worried about is the the number of people who would view a negative test as okay now. We can just have a big house party. I don't know that one automatically causes the other but at least we get enough data that we have a more finally there. Are things coming out that are like nationwide heat maps. We can see by county the case rate and have a more informed. Just it's been so little nuanced information in the last eight months which is important because like the analogy. I heard which is known asks with the national weather. Forecast is that's an idiotic concept and this is the weather it's a thing that's happening on the local scale. Free every one of us so the more we could have about our surroundings the better off everyone is. I think we're doing the worst contact. Tracing in the developed world are we doing contacts. I not really. We'll for like athletes right right. I read an article in the atlantic. About how most places are doing contact tracing in the wrong direction as well like the contact tracing foods rather than backwards which so basically now we know that most transmission of covid is from super spreader events. Like it's most of it. Is that the the majority or at least largest spreader events so you would on average. Let's say you know you've got the value which says which tells you on average how many people each infected person gives it to an if it's below one then the numbers are going down and if it's above one the numbers increasing but it's not but that's just the average across the whole group and actually let's say on average each person gives it to one and a half people. It's actually one person is giving it to like a ten people and the rest of the people are giving it to no one so if you'll doing contact tracing the fluid way you'll finding somebody who's infected and then you and then you'll finding everyone that they've come into contact with over the course of the next couple of days as a fairly good chance there one of the people who gives it to no one. So you're going to spend all these resources and find no new infections but instead if you find someone who's infected go backwards and find out everyone that that person met previously before they started sharing simpson's you've got a good chance of finding a superspreader who gave it to them and then you find everyone that that person met basically trying to track down the head vampire route one of the baby pies. Wow i didn't know it was that big of a. I didn't know that superspreader accounted for that. Big of a percentage. I mean all this stuff. It's just crazy that all of us don't have a ton more data and there's no easy solution to it but yeah that's that would just help everything because i think everybody has just gotten so religious. I mean that in the worst possible way about either side of caution or lack of caution. It's just become this dogma. As a poster thing that could be taken into account new information as it comes in anything that would be encouraging information to come in whenever possible with that. Was i think what think to an extent although they you know. They were battling up uphill constantly with the various governments. They were dealing with in britain and america but one of the mistakes that the scientists made in terms of communication was being clear about that too know like being clearer about we currently advising no need for mosques because mosques are limited resource and. We don't think they'll help that much and then later on the deal was okay now. We know the mosques really do help and then not unlimited resource that we recommend. Everyone wears them. If they communicated that more clearly. I think people would have gone along with it rather than just like what. Hang on just two weeks ago. They're saying that must don't do anything and now they're saying must do also you. You also have like celebrities and tv shows and sporting leagues being like okay. These people are tested. And now we're also being told okay. If you're tested you actually can't see anybody for thanksgiving and it's like okay. But what what. Why are the rules one way if you want to make a tv show and another way. If you want to see your family you can hang out together. If you're in the minnesota vikings but it's dangerous to go to the. I think the issue is the the messaging has been confusing because it is a disease that they're learning about on the exactly but but some which we just have to understand but we're not understand and also the whole of the nfl and the nba and the nhl and Which i'm missing out so yeah baseball But like the whole of them. All of those people put together is the tiniest tiniest percentage of the american population. So even if they do have outbreak. It's still not going to become a national or even statewide emergency. And you look at. Who had the strictest who created a bubble was the nhl and nba basketball and and they had no cases they had zero cases so it is possible but you have to spend probably billions to be able to do it even on a remotely large scale and you have to have incentive to the people in the bubble such as being paid on the level of professional athletes for them to adhere to these rancid. Aren't there you couldn't do that. Same thing in the regular world without having a ton of money to use in a ton of different ways yeah anyway. Hey you need to stick to these corinthian roles. otherwise you're gonna lose a seven figure rewrite sponsors. Yeah yeah there was an analogous thing. I just hate the joe rogan. Who are just like as soon as see one hypocrisy the like well throw it all out. Throw it all out that you don't get why this is useful advice to try to follow even if you occasionally don't follow it. It's still better if you mostly following like scales know it's constantly trade offs between restricting freedoms and also making people safe when you're constantly trying to play a balancing act of like okay if we're making schools go back then we're going to have to cut back on policies old groups of audina's restaurants years like if you if you're expanding one yield can after a contract another and vice versa but like people who look avenues and went to dinner bird down like i don't care i don't care. They went to their still need to follow these rules and went to dinner. But i also yeah. It doesn't then just by having a sex we. He's whatever having to six. i don't even know his policies. Everybody who thinks that anybody who's told them what to do is a bad guy. And what would you have done in their shoes. We have to have some kind of guidance and recommendations for people to in general do what they actually think a nuisance kind of attractive and he's almost too slick and politician to be a good politician. We wrap things up. Megan wear can listen to find out more about you and everything that you're up to so my husband and i host sports podcast together in a sentence. I've had to get comfortable saying an. It is called the greatest. So if you like sports like anything that's been in the historical realm of sports. We pick a certain topic and then talk about what we think is the greatest within that topic and then you can find me at making a on twitter and better making gaily on instagram. And i believe. I hope i can say this that. My half hour from comedy central will be available on youtube for free in the coming. Nice wholesome excited congratulations and all of those and check all of those things out. You'll probably to podcast of hours. Through put cost app that can also access the greatest so hit. Why don't we hit the subscribe button on that too. Well and subscribe to us. If you're not subscribing thank you very much you guys you can find awesome. Probably sized dot com. That's also we pull the show notes and the donation buttons. If you want to help us keep this thing going. You can find us on twitter at probably science individually at and e t wouldn't cushion probably science at dot com is the email address for any questions comments clarifications stories. You would like us to cover. 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Megan Gailey

Sports? with Katie Nolan

1:08:13 hr | 4 months ago

Megan Gailey

"Edible arrangements welcome to sports the podcasts. At end of the question mark is sprinkled. other question marks are sprinkled through. I have not written a thursday podcast intruding. We've been doing to pods and every thursday. I'm like well. It doesn't end with a question mark and start with a question and then i- riff and that's what you get a good old riff. It's thursday we have a guest today. That guest is meghan gaily to to disclaimers on this podcast number one. This was recorded a while ago. Not a long time ago but times a flat circle so i have no idea if it was a week or two weeks but it was the sunday. That meghan markle interview with oprah happened so it was a a sunday a while ago and then the other. Disclaimer is that I know these podcasts. Have been going deep on thursdays or whatever. They've gotten a little heavier introspective. This one is isn't that this is a very light fun. listen where mostly being sarcastic. Whole time and to be honest. I'm not thrilled with my performance here. I'm clearly trying to impress meghan. Because i want her to be my friend and I know she's very funny. And i do too much i think. Say a couple too many times Which may be. I'm just really familiar with. Because i went through to save travis the headache and gave him edit notes for this. Which is why you're listening to it later than usual on thursday but yet just ignore me Megan super funny and a great stand up comedian. You should check her stuff out and follow her on twitter We love her. She's great this is not a this person forever and i want to go deep. This is i want to know this person. And maybe i can use my podcast to con them into being friends with me. So you'll hear if that works. Hopefully its successful So here it is an a slightly old conversation with megan. Gaily megan gaily. How usually have been using this podcast to talk to people that i love already because i want my audience to get to know gum because a love them so much as people you think are going to be one of those people but we should be honest. We genuinely have not met like i have not. I consider you like an internet friend. But i also don't even know if you feel the same way about me while i consider you like i don't want to say i all because i think but like you know it's thrilling. It's like i feel like our relationship is a metaph we we've been we've met maybe some parties invived. Yeah and then you're like do you want to go out and i was like. Oh my god and now this is that day it so awesome to know because i feel like such like a dork judah guests it just feels so dumb but we did the other night. We did a spelling bee in in it. I was like nam. Egging gillies on me. I wanna talk to her. So that's just ask. i appreciate that. 'cause i went out kind of early in the spelling bees. We're smart. I just said that. Your name i said i wanted to be in second grade and i really was big for my damn britches and then i spelled fiduciary wrong. It's a tough word. I thought the spelling bee was going to be easier. Like i was like. Oh you guys are coming at this harder than i was expecting. So then i just got very drunk and high Which one does i guess. That's that's a way to win a spelling bee as well sure. Yeah you didn't lose. That's for sure i did. I did lose. I lost handily from emphysema. And you know what i would say the hardest way anyone has ever lost by empha- zima you've got far though i was like wow spelling. She's a genius. she's a genius. That's me. I'm very smart but anyways the point is i just wanted to ask you how your pandemic was going because you're a stand up comedian and i am kind of observing. How a stand up comedian is coping with the pandemic. Because i have one here. i also imagine everyone situation's different. What's it been like for you who you know it's been it's like it's so wild to even look back on the experiences that i've done on zoom like i was. We were messing planning this. I told you. I'm hung over from zoom wedding crazy. I i went to a zoom wedding and then i was like i'm gonna act like i'm at a wedding and yes no drunk. We were my husband. And i and then like our friends. You know we feel safe being around. We're doing karaoke. And there's quotes in our home with not plugged in microphones screaming when we were young by adele. So like we acted we got blacked out basically and but then for this wedding we did a zoom bachelorette party the week before and there was a stripper on zoot. Shut up. that's awesome. Yeah it was and look. I don't actually even love. Male strippers schorr And then getting to be in a male strippers home with him. Such a fascinating in different experience. I mean i saw billy rocks kitchen. I like it was really tidy. And he had a blessed sign. I didn't i didn't want to know his interior decor style. I don't need it'd be. They need to know that. Like okay if you're a nice looking kitchen. I'm just going to be looking at that. I say oh happy for you doing whatever you're doing in the foreground. Yeah i focus is going to be on why you chose dish towels or what you're back splashes on the net one point he's like are going to take a shot. Let me see if my roommate has any only with. This man took us pantry. It was like and there's not a world where that them not a world where that would happen. Non pants only so. There's been great experiences. I mean i think it's my husband is obviously trapped in this house with me trying to be a stand up and i've been doing a lot of zoom shows like that is how mentally ill. I am how much. I need you. Look. it's a thing where you're all anybody who does what you do for a living is is looking for something in some way. I mean it's after for anybody. Who does anything for a living but not to get too broad but i feel like the zoom sing. Don't beat yourself up about doing that. You don't have a mental illness because of that you're doing your job. Your job went away. that's terrifying. yeah. And all i need is to talk you know like i do not need anything like laughter is truly an added bonus but it's not always there and so people are like i can't be on zoom silent. I'm like oh my a standup has always felt catastrophic. You know like it does not need an audience. Needs me being awake. And so i been able to do it like all. Come out in my room feel like my office. Being like who am my husband will. Just look at me. And be like whoa. You're really giving it your all. They're like i performing to the back of the computer and he's like not noise complaints. No well we actually. The one noise completely got was during the browns steelers playoff game because my husband said the backyard and then he invited three browns fans who are mentally ill and they were like screaming screaming like an eighty year. Old mexican man had to be like. Are you guys okay. What's happening over there. But no other than that. We just have deep. We have a deep voice in this house. we need to do in radio shows for a couple of hours a day. Know the wall. There is shared with a small child on the other side. And like we're going to have to just watch what you say allowed me. Say yeah like real wall either should be. Okay okay use for these walls to be as bad as they are. But we've gotten we've got like a nice christmas note from a neighbor and we were like. Oh that's awesome in. All it was was christmas card that basically inside only said please stop. We can hear everything you say after nine thirty pm so just like say quieter but was there a picture of them on it too but that would have been only read. It would've been fully instead of still kind of hurts still just feels me. Wow they had to like hers and it was like no. We've actually been terrible neighbors in your own home and then you feel like you have to be quiet and whispered each other. And you're like yeah. I feel uncomfortable. I have no freedom. Swear my free where at least luckily in a three bedroom house and complaints. It's incredible. I don't know what we would be way the beloved driveway. We have your didn't have a fire. Pit really iran's we but it's next level. And i could be around my husband all the time and he cannot be around me. I think it's yeah it's similar that's similar we kind of trade. There'll be days where i'm like can't with this with what you're doing here. I cannot how long were you guys together before the good dress. A very very good question worth asking We went on our first date october. Okay selects six months. Yeah yeah yeah but six months out of like being on the road having a television show name on it so they were very busy six months. That like so. We got married three months before. Oh my so. I've only been married in this. And what a joy the honeymoon stage. It's amazing and we spent our first nine months of our relationship long distance. He was in new york. I was here and then even when we lived in the same place. I was gone shock all the time. Yes we have never been like. We're one of those couples that has to have a rule with like how long we can go without seeing each other because he was always like birthdays all star game. We always things that we had that we were not going to be around each other. And now it's constant around each other and it's affected him more negatively than me for sure. Hi it's me again. 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And while i didn't know what that meant and then when i found out what it meant i was like excuse you from years ago. That was very very rude. My criticisms are funny and also true. These just mean yeah. And like when i would be mean to tables it would be them trying to figure out in front of me what they wanted and i go. Why don't you just let me know. And it's like i don't like to do too. I thought might be hard tape. Let's go i. I was being constructed and ed's they're just like sit down and shut up. And i was like you're being you should stop being. I think that is good. Customer service with you. See like i thought i was telling you that you have your back turned to me once. You finally got my attention as the bartender in. You're asking your friends what they want to drink. And i would argue. You could used ten minutes when you couldn't get my attention to ask your friends what they wanted to drink. Then you go to dicks and they put a hat on your head. That's like to get into the community college. The sun even true. That's and that's people need to be learning lessons. If you mean to you can build on. You can improve. I'm giving you little bits of wisdom for free free. So i woke up today and i had people over for the first time yesterday in a year. No one's been in this apartment since we got a dog with watching my dog look and other people and be like people can come in here. Oh can come in here. She was so excited. It was just like a joyous note of the simplest thing that a ago would have felt like a night. you're gonna forget about would've been like what losers it was happy occasion. We're like we had to fix the second toilet because we don't be here when you like this beautiful day and then today woke up tired. And then i i Might have gone to the gym. And then i then. I started realizing i was like. Oh this is too much and i really do actually have to ask nagging questions. So he's a scaled it back a bit but we'll what when those things hit. We'll go for a ride together. I'm ready we're like meeting at your coming down on coming up at some point we're going to me and then fish will start playing. Yeah that'd be that know this song. I'd love to help her with this. But my mind is blank. I might make noises. I wasn't sure. I'm like. I know the kids from my high school. That are not doing well up them. So they're the they're the bad and that popped in my head high. Who were you in high school. I was like a patty simcox lake super goody goody i was a virgin but one prom queen so you know like a nice look. I was like a chunky virgin prom queen home. I am not religious so it's like my parents. My parents had a go and so that helps me. That definitely verner. That's gonna put you over the edge. And i had a huge ask like a i look at pictures of it all the time. My high school acid. I'm like i can't even believe my parents let me leave out so giant. What pants were we wearing. Then was that was that. Yeah so those weren't great ass pants back. I all nylex skinny friends. They were wearing. Those pants zipped up the back with the jeans zipped up the back they were from this like host store called pattaya. The i couldn't even fit in but i've never even thought that way. Which is. Where are you from indiana indiana. It was just a host indianapolis and then there was one in bloomington. Because if you went to are you you needed to be a longer you know. But at purdue where. I wet not enough hose so we did not get the whole store up there right. There was no. It's like we want to be too but just because we have astronauts we don't get to be but we found other ways we still found. I had that evolution of like didn't drink really good grades always doing the right thing. I was class president. Like it's like annoying. I would've bullied me like old. Would bali young me who you were at my high school and if we were friends was your high school big. Yeah i every time. I've said that confidently. I think. Dan's high school was gigantic. And i was like mine. Wasn't that big. But i wanna see. My graduating class was five hundred kids. Definitely that's huge. That's bec- it doesn't seem like that can't be right. We have had five hundred kids because only with two numbers Something there is really hard to count my high school. We start with eight hundred and then we graduated like five fifty. Oh damn we lost a lot. We lost a lot of soldiers. Along the way one out we would get. We would get kids from there was like a bad high school. Not bad just like the my his goes bad too but there was another bad high school clothes and a kid will get expelled from there and then they come to our high school and a kid. We get expelled from our high school. We were just trading the worst kids back and forth and it was so fun with my crazy high schools. Just did something about it. Instead of trading them back and forth. What in the world is going on in indiana Not not good education. It's very not very good college education which is very surprising to have so many good universities but on like a public school level. I don't think i don't actually. I don't think the private schools are killing it either. Pay like twenty thousand dollars in their private school in rural indiana. You're canadian at one of the weirdest things about being older now is having to look at school differently and having to look at like school the way our parents i mean. Obviously that's what's going to happen when you get older. But instead of looking at school as well i don't know. Is it a cool looking school. Is it in fun. Place it now. It's like well. How do they teach math. Caught having kids must be so stressful. I i would i ll. I want them actively trying to get pregnant. Right now are you. Do you wanna talk about this. Because i would love to talk about. I'm more than happy. I'm going to sort of this. Like wild chain post high school. I became like a wild in college and you went to a school whose mascot is a shot a beer but yeah how does that yes. I'm trying to get pregnant turned to become a mother i are you. How do you know how were you. What gave it away. What made you decide. I m a nanny like. I love babies. I really always have. And i just want i really like my husband. He's very good job. And i'm really really selfish and like you know got some narcissism sprinkled in and so it'll i could really get up. You know it could really poorly. But i think it will. I think it will make me better a better person being aware of it. Yeah just not thinking about like my number. One thing is myself. You know like something happens. I'm like what am i gonna do. What's mega truly it. All about me no matter what you could tell me everyone in your family died. It'd be like crazy. I have to do the podcast with her. Today that's where my brain goes. So it's like i should probably shouldn't have kids but i'm hoping i'd love to be sober for ten months. That seems funny. And right now without a kid i don't think so. I think it's gonna stick something. I'm interested in louisville. Stick when i also just the image of being just hugely pregnant and getting to do stand up and be crazy. Think will be fun to really ought to stand up with the baby strapped to me like i want to. I'd like to push the boundaries of what people are comfortable with with motherhood. I'm into that just like a full on. I mean people what was it was the first did it pregnant and then i feel like somebody did did her. That's right yeah. It was like no examples. Joan rivers and i don't know if i want to have melissa has my daughter so you gotta make sure you don't. That's going to take work. Gotta make sure you don't have melissa. Yeah because like having a spouse that's like depending on your career is one thing but having a child that said like oh. My thing is being my parents kid. It's like oh no that's not melissa. I think stole runs. Jones instagram account. And it makes home in. That's to be like psychologically difficult to do of like the burden of keeping your mom alive after your mom millions and yet for a lot of people who like. She meant a lot to a lot of people. I think about her especially with the way the world has been since she died. I'm like we really need her. She really i think she could have really because she she would say stuff about a former man that could hurt him is mean and want to call him broke in poor an ugly in a way that no one else could like ran out on. Yeah yeah. I remember when she died. My the first thing i thought was like man. I wish i could seen the joke. Joan rivers would have written about joan rivers being dead. I was like man. It would have been way too soon but it would have been funny. We all want to gotta admit that was really funny. I have a hot mama. Oh that's tough i. I have a very very cute mom. Well your kill me for saying that. She probably like. I'm a hot mom. My mom is jim. Now how will your mom is nurse. Sixty to me. She sixty but i guess she's. She's pretty close to seventy eight hundred fifty five hold as my mom was born in fifty five to does that mean they are. They're they're sixty six damn. Yeah and so. They're cute now. Yeah now my mom was always pretty cute. A fat asmaa got to. She's i didn't which i'm annoyed by own life. I was like gimme a curve. Any curve i am just a straight frigging and i know that sounds like okay. What at you're like skinny but like non there's no form to me. I have no form not even head. Nice no hips. They go straight forward and usually you would get that from your mom you guy. Have you think once. I walked out in a bathing suit many times but in front of my grandmother editor. Who didn't really like me. And i walked out beating suit in front of her. And she goes such a shame of your mother's body worlds or women op to before us like sometimes i hear stuff that people's grandma's or mothers said and like look i get it because i work in sports and i've had to look ahead at the women before me who were the first to break in and forgive them for a lot of things that i think they're come up taught them of la. I've got a treat other women as competition. And i have to try to be the only one i forgive them for that because it was the you know their product of their time and they were pitted against each other and it wasn't really weren't just they don't actually care. They don't want it to be that way but it was the way it was and the five and i get that we want to grandma's and a lotta moms but it sometimes just like to say it's a shane. You got your mother's figure. Who does that help eleven. Oh and i truly was like oh my god. I think. My mom's got like offended for me. I was like offended for peggy. I'm like your mom's name is peggy. That makes perfect. Yeah yeah but i just feel like women hegi deal where she what's. What was her life like you know. She met my dad and fifth grade. Damn together then. But they've known each other and even know geometry yet they just took math like their classes hadn't even started being specifically named and they were in. They were like in the fifth grade class. My dad had a thing for her. She did nothing for him and then he just kinda waited until they were in their twenties assistance till they weren't there that other girls. I mean it's not dissimilar. Cj and i we my husband and i. We were friends for eight years before we started dating. And i'm always like did you love me. Then and he. Since i'm crazy he has to go. I've loved you since you were a baby. Oh that's not well. I mean we knew each other for a couple of years. And i had him on my show a couple times. We kept kinda running each other. And then you know and i always was like hell. Yeah this guy's awesome. He's like not difficult he doesn't hit on me. There's no weird anything. He's got a call voice yet. Oh my god is voice. Her voice like he can do other people's voices. he is great impression. He respects me. Like i'll have this dude on any show. I don't care if he's promoting nothing. In what my brain wasn't realizing that my brain was like you love him. I think you might love him at might be a good one to just try that door. Open it see what's inside but instead we like you. I so we we talk about this all the time now. Where did you see so fun. And he was like yeah. Of course i did. But it's like part of the reason that it works now is because i loved him so much because he never made that never laying on being good on your show and i'm doing your show a lot because i want you to have sex with me. Which have made me completely. Shut the door and been like whoa all thanks. He was just so cool about it that now when he tells me he had a crush on me or like there was one point. We had a girlfriend that he was like. I probably would have. But i wasn't. Because i have girlfriend but then it's it's just funny to look back at it now and be like man. Thank you for not a leading with that. I really appreciate you not leading with that in. its very. i couldn't do that. You know like i mean. Shoot your shot. What men are taught to. But there's people were probably two of them. Were like you need the space who come to the realization on your own and then a little slow on the uptake of person liking me because my whole childhood. That was not really it. A people didn't really do that. When did you have your first boyfriend. Oh well i mean. It doesn't really count. i would say in middle school. Maybe like seventh grade. This jeremy green and i dated but then he broke up with me in my valentine's day he was like i don't think we should date anymore and i was like we'll do fine but couldn't you tell me tomorrow. Look why do you ever cards. That are nice. Oh that's a really good question. yeah colli vicious. It's hard. it's the thing i never put together. But it's when favorite things about. Dan is when he makes me a card. I'm like the things right in here are very genuine and very nice. Now i appreciate them and he's probably like that's what a card is lady but that's not what most people i didn't actually like me. Cj rights really nice cards when we were long distance. He sent me a postcard every day for seventeen days and like different things he like loved about me on them and i was like own. He varied it. You know it was like not chose like your delusion you know it was all just like your lust and love of my life and he wrote really nice things and i was. I don't think i've ever written any nice off. Eilly face meghan. And so now. I like right and he taught that that's the best. I'm also realizing that. The reason that i don't think people. I don't assume people like me because of a thing i've known has been the meanest prank ever pulled on me but i never really process what it probably did to my life when i was in when i was in middle school my good friend at the time quote unquote. I had a crush on this guy. And i had. I mean everybody kinda knows. A tragic middle school haircut had very very short hair and it was at the same time that i had braces in italian so i had a little bit of light hair. Sideburn action that. I definitely didn't need and have been taken care of but wasn't and you weren't missing any of it because my hair was short so there is nothing to hide behind a exposed to young point. Is i had a crush on this guy who was like one of the funny cool guys and my friend. he like. They had him tell me to like meet him at the cafeteria because he wanted he and my friend had broken up and he wanted to ask me to dance so i met in the middle of the cafeteria to be asked to this dance and then he. This was the meanest insult if you grew up when we grew up psych. He said sino my friend. Abby came up from wherever she was hiding at the lunch walked off with him. they hadn't really broken up. I just got totally host into being embarrassed at the lunchroom so now when somebody's like i have a crush on you. Don't go away forever until you prove it prove that you're nice that's like that's like a scene in a movie that your kids aren't this mean and the fact that the that he was dating your friend and then he was like we're not even broken up. That's like a a tag that the tag on a prank. That was already mean enough. Yup thank you for understanding. It feels so good to get that off my chest. I would do a lot of there were just so many megan's i'm sure they're jokes. About how many friends. Katie i had and i would get and there were even in college. There was a meghan in my sorority. So hot like the hottest sorority was meghan and it would be tough because people would constantly being like. Oh my goodness so hot and it was not about me it's also like when you're on the bachelorette and you look around and you see hot meghan and you're like i guess i'm meghan us know you're going to have to have your last initial because gets to keep meghan exactly and it was. You know i mean. I love talking about how hard it was in my sorority. It was definitely ising to be the fat meghan in the sorority. I get it. I get it. I told her brothers and they're very very very smart funny. They were like the coolest boys that went to my high school. It was very hard following in their footsteps. I can really one but okay. Yeah it's i mean whenever i meet people and then they're like oh you of older brothers. I'm like yeah that makes sense mini. It does eight. that's an insult. Thank you know it's not it's a compliment. I think it's i think sometimes it's both you know. Yeah i mean everything is if you think about it. That's true. And so when i started doing standup it was kind of like the first time that i was doing something different than them. And and like a few years into it. I was like they had come to a show. I was drunk. I was obviously like feeling myself. I'm like i'm just so sorry. That like i do stand up so you guys like can't now and they were like we would never want to do you do. This is an embarrassment. That i mean one's a lawyer oh god And is running illinois as like vaccine program doing well or he's in the national guard to. He's like a home. I know and we're not derek and family. Were not even that nice to him. He he ran for state senate one twenty nine and i forget it all the time. Short of he's not people are like. Why isn't he on any social media. I'm like oh. He ran for public office. I forgot oh my god. I know we're mean to him. We're to him because it makes he makes us like feel bad. You know like yes. We'll definitely a a joke about this. Where like on memorial on my parents. My grandparents were in the armed services. May like grandma and grandpa met during world war two. You know like like that. And i say because then he left her for a nineteen year old to it. Didn't didn't pearl harbor workout antic as we like to make i mean it's it's real very real. I'm we're always like on veterans day like we thank them and then we're like oh and ryan thank you to you should go to outback. Or whatever and get a free blooming onion and then he will send us articles about his friends. That have perished really ruining our but what do you want me to say. My friend didn't gig. They tried to get last week and that was sad for all of us. I've i've lost some some soldiers along the wages a casual drug use. It's never defending the freedom And then my other brother he's a realtor. Alright well the league in all of them. What does your brother. He's he's in It's i always call it. Marketing bump resorts ad sales. He's in digital ad sales. Okay which he's very very good at but my brother is like my brother growing up was the golden child. He was so good at everything. He was good enough at hockey that he went to private school like he. I went to public school. I go my god. You went to a difference hoping he went to like an all boys. Private school and i went to premium high. Because i was like. I don't know. I wanna have like high school movie experience. We why did. I want that sucked you got. You got bullied in the cafeteria. Oh god that was middle school but middle. School was the worst hands including middle school. Worst time of six seventh and eighth grade. I can pinpoint and just seventh grade like there isn't an amount of money that someone could pay me to go back if i told anyone that i was friends with from seven grade happy and i mean i think we all i told my brother this recently. My brother's like. I thought you were popular all your life. What are you talking about the any attention my house. You see egged in high school every weekend it was. We're thinking of you exactly. And they fed sometimes because they throw the eggs and they wouldn't Crack because they were southern so that free. They're dropping off pantry. Item it was like jordache swap food delivery. Why were they egging your house. I think it originally started because my house was like on a corner of a street right across from the middle school so it was like give direction to find where my house was and I had mohammed was a bartender and a dad who worked late and when or when he would go on business trips to like he's going to huntsville alabama We i would have parties and at my house and so I would tell kids. I didn't know they couldn't come. Because i'm like i don't know you and you can't come into my house. And then they started egging my house and then it just became like once enough people do it and it happens enough times. It's like oh we will go. Ed katie's house would make scrub it off the house every time. Wake me up and be like your friends. Egg the house again. I'm like how. Can i tell you these friends. They're not my friends not only. They're not my friends when clean it. They drive by and get exactly what they were looking for. Wars of this is really torture. My brothers were like bad. They were you know they were like cool. Bad they were sneaking out all the time and so they kept getting blamed for things once they were like a woman came in was like your sons drove through my yard and my dad was my sons are twenty seven th. They didn't do that. They live in chicago and she was like okay. Well they they taught someone to do it then because they've left their mark. That was me. I was troublemaker. My brother was a good kid but he was. He was just very good at like not getting in trouble. I just had to argue all the time my parents were always like. You need to get the last word. And i'm like yeah because you you're wrong and i'm right. There's an injustice. I was so good. My brother called the cops on my parents once. Yeah i would have been. I wouldn't have seen the light of day. He so he called the cops once and then like never mind and then he called again was never mind and they were like well. Dog you call twice. We have to send your car now and my parents just to hide in the basement they were like. We don't even wanna get you involved. Which is plus one nice. Because god forbid they check the basement and then they have to explain whether some kid down there might the reason. My brother called the police because he said my parents were holding them hostage to my house. He wouldn't was he. He was like sixteen. Is this oldest brother. No this isn't even my oldest my oldest brother. He was gone by that point and then it was like i think at that point my parents. I think were like okay. We we can handle this. Megan will be good and watch jeopardy with us. Michael whom i got. He's gonna smoke a thousand cigarettes in the next week but like we can find him but then it was like without my other brother there to beat him up. He was like a superhero powerful. You know like he was like i will be superb bad and and was just. I don't even know about like when you get older and you find out like we what happy. Yeah but my oldest brother heated a relief up. I wasn't really. I didn't really drink but my brothers went to college. They went to the same school. So i would go visit them and then they would be like you can drink with us. You know. we'll show you like the right thing. And so the first time ever drank or smoked weed was visiting my brothers and then my oldest brother. I went to visit him during the summer session. And i was in communion. We'd that was fun. Like i love taking fourteen young. We can we please smoke weed and so he thought no maybe it was fifteen or sixteen so he got me weed and then i wouldn't let him borrow my car like a few weeks later and he wrote my parents a letter back. I had made him by me. We'd shots up. My best friend still has not forgiven him. Like she'll see him and be like hi la- realtor the lawyer lawyer. I'm realizing too. So it's sunday. I've said this a million times but it's in thirteen minutes is like game. Twelve minutes no i. It should be the all star game. 'cause we're in a podcast called sports. The thing i've noticed that the internet is consumed by today is an interview. When l'opera yaha and meghan markle. I didn't know this was like we don't have a lot of events left in the internet. Willingly everybody's tuning in to discuss and like the all star games missing a bunch of dudes because we're still in a pandemic. I forgot again. But it's like a like i wonder if making dailies like super into the royal family. I know people are i. Don't judge i'm just not. I told you this break before we got on. I'm now doing a podcast for the lifetime network and we watched harry and meghan lifetime movie this week and so there was a lot that i didn't know like i love a theme for anything. So whenever they're getting married and people are like. Here's a cocktail fascinating. I'm like fun. i'll come get drunk and a hat. Whatever but diana was obviously very devastating to my white mom. And they knew diana like we are diana. And i'm like yes you do not listen more diane. But it like jfk junior diana. I'm like ooh they are in. My mom's family does really upset. But i i. I'm into them being bad and me being on meghan markle's side. Yeah i yeah. I've been loving. Everyone's really mad at bethany frame. Call today and that has been fun. Yes my mom loved bethany. i think I saw a tweet that ended up pretty well. But i really don't remember who wrote it and that makes me feel like a jerk but i'm going to say it anyway. Somebody was like bethany. Frankel always looked like the sane one when she was surrounded by worse it easy to be tricked into being like bethany tells it like she like it is. They got her in the real world. Say something in your. That's not what it is fascinating. That's not what at all but next to ramona singer. It looks like a good person. Like oh and then the later seasons I fell off. Because i was just like a. I don't know. I don't know any of these people are anymore but i bet people started to notice that she's like I dunno she's just people that are two into their themselves. It's never going to work for you like if you're so in yourself you cannot see another person's experienced consider that maybe you shouldn't talk on that issue. In that way. Ethnic problem was that she went through all this stuff and nobody cared and now somebody else is going through it. And she's like the girl from suits instead of recognizing that it's not the girl from suits. It's a person women of color to have made it into the royal family to then yeah right away. Who's about to. Ls by and she's like i she's from suits and now she's famous and it's like okay. I mean that's the exact same ascension to fame. You know you you are an f. Version of her. Her only comes apparently jealous. And like yes girl. I was going to be with harry to you know like we all saw harry not lose his hair like what's up but we're not with hairy so we and bethany is always only being critical of women of color. Yes and so like all girl. She dated megan's ex sedate stuff. Yes he was like no thanks and now she just transparently. Should i could mark all the time. You clearly want. What she's had or has can't have it and that upsets you. We see you stop. Yeah why are you so mad about wop. Oh hi there may again. Yup that means it's time for an ad read This episode sports okayed known as brought to you by you guessed at full sail university. Is dan patrick school. Sportscasting listen legendary. Sportscaster dan patrick has teamed up with full sail university to offer an accelerated. Bachelor's degree in sportscasting. Have you guys heard about this. 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They're cool there yet. There was one movie that we because they will. They let us stay wherever thinking as you were talking earlier and saying certain things Nausea really fun but he. Spn's gonna take most of this. I mean all the whatever is it whatever gets on the cutting room floor for this and all of my two thousand seventeen two thousand eighteen. Espy's jokes we can just put into a folder. And and that just patriotic on. You can read all of the things i had to say. They that finale. We're not gonna put on the air you know you're one of the only people who can relate specifically to my struggle of working here if like getting the joke that's funny enough. Yeah but isn't to anything else to get on areas pin. They would like call the people that we were making jokes about and tell them the job. Stop i that's so that's a real hidden secret. Oh my god. I wish i could go back to not knowing that my feelings and i think it truly was operating from a place of like. We don't wanna make anyone mad. Sure that's how you handle things you can be like. Hey i'm gonna say something really mean. Is that okay. Because when they're like no it's not okay. You're got it. I stand for nothing. I'll delete it. And then there were. There were athletes that would call and say. Can you guys write a joke about me. Do you remember anyone sue remember. Yeah i mean te'o for sure that's the least surprising name you could give me. I wanted something like he wants to move a seat up player. We gotta make a joke about. Even though it couldn't be less topical couldn't hasn't played in seven years. Listen and like. I remember payton like i can't say this about te'o and we really actually ask for you to say this. Yeah so don't worry. He actually wrote it himself so he wants it. I will get in trouble at the nfl for things. I didn't even think. I was gonna get in trouble for just even saying like The most innocuous thing about jerry jones and then they'd be like jerry jones. It's your boss. And i'm like okay. It's like the is he. How can he be everyone's boss and if he's my boss why haven't we met. Performance review remelted. Hr issues also. I'm not saying anything. The my boss doesn't already now. My boss care debate attention. My boss would understand that. What i'm saying is pretty accurate about loss. Not my bosses. Team is under five hundred. I did make up to him. I'm saying back there. You can't be mean to you. Basically and it's like he doesn't care he does care. We don't have to care that he cares. Why does he care. Somebody just has to look at him and go. Hey mr jones sir. You can't care about this. You've got a lotta carabello. This isn't it. Just laugh at this and let people laugh at this. It'll benefit you in the long run. You just mr being villain. I wonder it's not good. I like it can't be fun to know. Everybody doesn't like me but that would be adding a act like it is though maybe they don't know maybe that's why they don't like jokes about them because they're like don't confront me with both sides. I'd rather just pretend they weren't. They're my best friend. Like my best friend from growing up is very mean and i have tried to cut her out probably and she you know she refuses and she will. She's like she'll never she is mean to me still. It will always be now. And why like i don't go well. She had very difficult childhood and then had to help raise her siblings and is a nurse and just like lived and like always has chew cores. Lightbulb open in her hand and we'll like fight to jail for fighting will come. Yeah i mean is wild and she will just look at me and be like that. Looks like you know or like you thought. That joke was good. That was bad. I was i was opening for For anthony justice for a while but we were in indian so like friends came wearing a anthony green room and he's not a diva but he likes things how he likes things as anyone who has their own green room and gets to ask. What's in there is going to feel. And she comes back after the show. I don't know who let her back. Just walks fully back into the green room. It's talking about. Somebody takes two beers out of the fridge. Go find your parents and anthony looks at me. And he's like that is the greatest person i've ever seen in my yanking what she's a tornado. She's just so mean and scary and very fun to don't wanna undersell her but she just will go to ball in the same trip to chicago. The train we were on caught on fire gone fair and the door slammed close. This is this was a great day in history. The door slammed close. She pride the doors open with her bare hands and then we went to a white sox game and she got in a fight with this guy was dating his friend he brought and she was so mad at him that she made him go. Sit someplace else in the stadium. Oh my god. I love i love and hate. I wanna hug her. What i wanna do is hug her We were watching zoom wedding yesterday and someone texted us. You're not on you. And my life flash. Before my i had been talking shoe mad like mad mad mad. 'cause we had been checking were mute right. We're muted okay. we're muted and then like some setting changed and we got unmuted and so then we meet. I was like could you hear me. And they were like no. You're good but like they could just hear that we were not muted. But could i mean. I was talking about like not the wedding. But like a fam- people's families. Oh god what was the pandemic wedding like still blast. It was in their backyard. I think a lot of ways it ends up in being easier for people. Because you're going to be five people and i'm not going to have to deal with xyz of everything that you have to deal with it. I don't think she groped her husband's computer. I wouldn't or maybe she. It's more likely that she did because the computer was like actually needed for a wedding. Yeah but it was. I mean i've done soon. I've multiple zoom funerals at this point really. Yeah i've had tuesday funerals to weddings soon batra pretty i did zoom intervention. Jesus you do all of it. I've done a lot of gym. I thought i was on a lot of zoom. But it's mostly just been like trivia night and some like jack box game. I haven't done any that's tough. Yeah the zoom funerals of were crazy. We're pretty crazy. 'cause it just feels achey like you're just like i'm it's just very disconnected and the point is like to be connected. Yeah you're just sitting in your home for one of them. I was just sitting in my home. Sobbing doesn't even like i'm like crying. One zoom funerals. I went to there were a lot of famous people in it and it was insane zealand. Same because you're like scanning it rose seven like he's so upset it was it was like like took a picture of someone on it like it was it was it was real. It was really like. And i know this is what do people say but it was like a black mere episode. Yeah i'm still. I'm like devastated and grieving. But like my weird instincts are still there too. There's a famous person and and you're all crying and your cameras are on and then you're like in a chat. It's just it's not. It's not how it should be breathing. So if every you shouldn't be able to see everyone's face during funeral you're supposed to be looked. You're all supposed to be looking forward but in this situation like looking forward to seeing and it's like if a funeral happened in everyone invited stood at the front and faced a. It's not about. It's not supposed to be about that but it's impossible instinctively not like that person looks like. They're faking crying person's not even being own. Yeah when are you going back out onto the road. You have stuff on the horizon now. The answer to this can be no. I don i really i. I started doing outdoor shows here like those have only reopened in the last few weeks and even did one this week where i was like people are behaving in a way that makes me uncomfortable. You know like. I don't know when i'll do when all travel for stand up again. Do you miss. It does any part of you. Miss it or that part of it. No i definitely was. I got to the point where i hate it. I just was not enjoying being on the road. Like i was like. I really am having a nice time doing stand up in l. a. I'm now writing professionally. Like i feel kind of zapped anyways that i don't want to travel on of work. I'm already doing so. I did start to resent it. And when i was opening like i was with anthony for like two years. And we're staying at the ritz. Like anthony is hooking it up. And then when i'm by myself it's like i'm in a condo in wisconsin like car. This isn't what i remembered. And so i just started to turn on it but now i'm like what i would give out a condo in wisconsin freight. That's like dan. You know had a couple of weekends a couple of had to cancel and then like one he went. He went to salt lake city. He came back had cova. We didn't find out too late. I got covid in saw so bad. And i was like look. You're either gonna give me covert or like you're going to go insane in this apartment. You have not gone this long without doing that in for years like it's then you're at it's been your life so of course you're going a little stir crazy without it and you needed to go. I knew the risks were both okay. We got over it. But it was just like i feel so bad that every time he needed to go do the thing that satisfies his life and his drive it was like he had to risk that he was gonna get me sick and then it happened of on my birthday. No this one is poorly for you as it could of. Wow i mean thank god. You didn't die. I said to me you better start hoping that. I don't have this bad and that my asthma from my childhood is no longer round because for him. He's like that's. Hbo special number to get annoyed. That could probably sell that one. Get even a netflix. For me stand up is such a lake. it's how i grieve. it's how i process. I didn't realize that and is embarrassing. But it really helps me deal with so much and to not have that at like one of the scariest times has been almost like debilitating. Yeah oh. I don't know how to do anything without this other thing that helps me clean of be normal person. Yeah like i have to get it out. Watch what people how they react to it and then like oh figure out you know where i go with that. Yeah that's like me. i'm like big life events. Big things that happened in the news that affect everybody like us might work to understand them better. Like oh i can do a deep dive and write about this. That's how i understand. Things is by writing about them. And then when i like pandemic hits i don't really have. They don't have a show anymore. And i'm just like sitting here. All these big events are happening like black lives matter things happening. And i'm like. I can't process any of this because i have nothing to write about it for so then i just at one point was like screw. It can start writing into a google doc and save at their helped. Yeah and i think at some point you'll be fast. That's what standup is. you know. it's really just a time capsule of how you're expressing yourself at that time. Yeah so now. You should do an hbo special. Hello down can never never if not how you guys do it. But i absolutely love watching you do. It's my favorite thing. I've always just loved watching stand ups. And i'm like i'm me. No but you hell it. I i think it would be so a truly. I tell whenever. I want to do it. I'm like please don't do it. Don't you know people are told. They should do it. It's just people default that too early. Somebody's kind of funny. Like you should do stand up to you. Don't know about stand up and you can tell the stand ups that we're told that too much because it's always just this very confident men now are just bill truly the least funny people you've ever been around your life and it's like how did you get here like just l. Typically aim in my mind hoping that you have the exact same very specific name in your mind but for the sake of probably you more than me. We just won't say it. There's i have like twenty people in my mind an women in my mind but that do stand up. You have to come from a truly much more confident place because you're putting yourself out there in a great crazier way you don't realize that but that's just like women and attracts but there's women bomb every single time i see them to stand up and i'm like don't know why you keep doing this survey truly devastating to me like pretty good set. God i wish. I had that where i could just do. Awful and then be like delta right. You know it hurt me so if the fact that it didn't hurt you is like very strange. I'm more empathetic to your pain than you are to your own pain. I'm feeling what you need to take some of this embarrassment away from me because it hurts. There's comments that are that are like i've stopped telling people good set if they didn't have one like we need not bad up line. Like you guys all complement each other. Which on the outside like it's cool and then something happens that disrupts your industry and i'm like oh maybe if you had told that guy was good sunny good be criticized and be more open. Take criticize how i like to. I definitely have enemies in stand up. And they know we know like but i know the nemesis it makes it into more of like a story of will than if you call them. An sounds like you're mad a nemesis. Sounds like they're evil. So go with okay i have some. I have some amazon. Have and i have a photo but then i love to imagine the people that hate me. I don't even know about blue. Don't think i've ever done that. Discovery scared when you said that's like a weekly exercise. I just assume everyone forgets about me. And so every time like it's me it's katie. We met one time at this thing. And they're like okay. I know and i'm like i don't know it's just such a lake at. That's a truly healthy humble way just on the other side of the spectrum of you you are on your end in it's unhealthy and on the other end and it's unhealthy like i can't ever just walk into a room and be confident that like someone's cool with me being there. I walk in. And i'm like you guys i mean ahead out you got it of here. Go by look. I'm just so all the time. And i walk in and i'm like they all just thought she lights up a room exactly. We're both sick. We're just sticking different ways. And that's how we find ourselves behind these microphones. I'm very grateful to you for doing this. This was a fun way to spend my sunday. Just conning you into talking to me on the phone for an hour under the guise of it being a podcast might never publish this adjust living now and i'm scared to ask you to be my friend. I'll be your fun. Thank you for hanging out with me. Thank i'm so happy all right. It's just me again. That is a that's it for meghan. What a what is big. 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Megan Gailey - Man In The Boxed Car

Dumb People Town

23:33 min | 6 months ago

Megan Gailey - Man In The Boxed Car

"Starving where they lacked breaking down a half. I say now with co-host of using the body around town. Friday episode of dumb people population you should gala gala love. When you guys turn it on nice love it. I love it. I mean i don't mean turn on but just fire. Sc to see you work love. We just wanted to have an episode full of people who've crossed shit on the nfl network. That's all day and then christian so hard they said in you gave us and we appreciate. Because if the nfl's november what thing it's about valuing people after they've given you about living it's about moving on it's about not respecting colin kaepernick. Which none of us did. I'm just getting It is so good first of all. You are one of our favorite people to talk sports with because you are so deeply entrenched in the world and can hang and go toe to toe. Also rep a fan base. That like you're the only friend of ours. Who's like a huge indiana pacers and so that's always a joy so it always feels like it. Feels like an indulgence to be able to go talk to the thirty for thirty. Is it reggie in the garden waiting waiting time. You honestly ask her. She knew that. Because i couldn't remember the title of nurse can't see this. This is boomer with hugging a heart with my name on out just here but you do what i love about. It is that you do have a real to be a great sports fan. I felt you have to have such an eye for the specific and to be able to point out in the world of sports the bullshit of the of the world. And you do this so well in your up comedy as well. you're fantastic. Stand up for those who have not seen her do what she does a. We've seen you many times rush it. i can remember. I can ravelli room for lying up upstairs for tv taping at montreal watching you tape a tv set on a show that we were also on that you were fantastic. John door show. Yeah so that was really. That was the last montreal to do really really well. It's just. I'm so happy you're here. You hate dumb behavior and so do we. Let's get into a story to it. Yes who him by derek. L. man's at game design dude. You the man's what does he do for a living he's like i don't know man upstate. New york man spent hours trapped in his car. After a snowplow buried his vehicle under four feet of snow wall. Is he doing in there in the first place at arkansas. This is my answer from Right outside of niagara falls and this happens like my mom said she could walk out her second story bedroom on snowbank. Yes yes just walk right out and oj simpson. Was there waiting for her. She's not trying to date her anything. You so this. This is very real so real legendary rochelle that the winter storm of seventy eight seventy nine which was like epic when when when they would allow the streets. After a week of non-stop snow is essentially driving down tunnels. Because the snow is piled up does as high as the telephone. Like you would pull out track and just be driving down tunnels and snow. Yes snow tubes. It is so funny the fact that you grew up or did you grow up there. You go up. There are no no. My parents scrap in niagara falls. Do they have. Do you have relatives. Did you go there and visit yes. They're the only ones that like latch till we went on. So you go there. It's like june and you're in niagara falls or you're wherever you're up that area and like you go to a safeway parking lot or some like some i a corner and in the corner of the of the parking lot. There's like a tiny banking. Never shell tune and just black the shape of george washington's head and you're like what is literally kids because those in this time of year right now. Those snow mountains are enormous. And all you're doing is like playing king of the hill. Knock each other off them. And you're either sledding or falling down into a road because it's always in the corner of the parking lot right next to an intersection would go ahead good ours. We had Artful marketing lot. We would like go into like the giant trash receptacle. Letting hill went. But not the help. The mandate of mount can directly into that would just be plowing into dumpsters. Yeah and we would also like it was a big deal in high school to go during the like like a like a sleep with freeze or a little bit of snow and we would just goethe empty parking lots and do donuts. Every every year somebody would forget about the part of the parking lot that had like the little bumper wheels to stop or somebody would hit a pole. One year this ties into the story. We all went to kyle celtics house and his dad worked for rochelle municipal utilities. Who had all these card heart suits right and we all put them on. And then we walked two blocks over to sarah harper's house and tamra. Sanders was parked outside of sarah harper's house and she had a little blue daytona three hours. We made her entire car. A block of snow and ice. It's hilarious it was. There was no way there was no way it. Has this ever feel like because of our phones. People are spending an inordinate amount of time. Still in their car after they've arrived this guy particularly. Yes right don't you feel like your parking spot or your home. Then it's ten more minutes of you on the phone like la has made me be like. I'm getting the fuck out of this car. Obviously not pandemic. now. I could go in new york. Go mccaren cry at this for me there. But in la. I'm like because you had to go from the west side at four. pm it's get us into this. Okay all right. So he spent hours trapped in his car after. A snowplow buried his vehicle. That's anything to like. What was he doing because you know house common rape of like the sled on cement. Yeah police received several nine one. One calls thursday about a driver who went off the road along state route. Seventeen see and needed help. Have any of your car ditch. No have you garnered. Its passage in indiana michigan in college. Yeah we did. Yeah we did. We did because we spun out on a very slick thing in it on. We were in ohio. You're driving. Ohio spun out on a very slick road and it landed in the ditch. Right next thing yeah. It's is have roll the carpet. But i've never like in snow. Put a car into a ditch but then rochelle. That's like a huge. That's how you know how bad it is. People will tell you like just came back on thirty eight. There's like six cars in the ditch. Do not go out there today. like it's just everybody off. I mean the highway between indianapolis and perdue it goes up to chicago to is sixty. Five and sixty five is a disaster. I mean they close it all the time. You're in a ditch. The last time. I drove in snow. I went in a ditch. And my mom's car and just trying to get onto the highway and just look behind me. One was coming such as backed up out of the ditch so many times when you go into a ditch. It's the slowest tragic thing happen. It's 'cause you already slowed down because you felt it and then you just slowly like what we're going into the day to day say that emotionally. That's the way most people feel when they're in indiana. They're going to a new york crying and their car. I've been there needed help in. And we go into town in western new york just a few miles from the pennsylvania border however despite several attempts to find the car. No one could locate my sergeant. Jason cali of new york state police learn about the calls and went on the hunt for the wayward vehicle. Can't like locate my iphone. Tell them where he is. It is phone. Just say but no. He's only they've only gotten calls from people who saw the car so doesn't have a phone. I don't know he's service boy as he was driving. That's the cop. He spotted several mailboxes. Sticking out of the snow piled along the side of the road he dug through the snow to check the addresses to see where he was and suddenly uncovered a window. The oh eyeballs out. Plot of misery is also picture that scene in weird science where they pick up glass and he's under the sixteen candles. That's what it was. He picks up the clear off the beer cans. And you just see yeah So he he he. He pushes finds the window right. Anthony wasn't price on the other side of the glass was kevin crescent and he had been calling nine. One one from inland fisher. Kevin creston is in also friends with tam. Whoever your friend know you still. There was nate casson but they did not help. Michael my will kyle his dad. Jeff these guys stuff from did not help was just western new york named kevin everybody's name is kevin carson had been calling nine one one from inside the buried automobile. For how many hour you gotta drive by the crescents and drop-off Christmas cookies begging. How long four hours. Okay how how many hours do you think i. D invents call eight hours eight hours eleven. Eleven hour okay freaked out. We're going to take a break. We'll come back we're gonna find out what megan's up to it and we'll find out. How many hours kevin crescent was trying to get someone to get out of this guy. Doing be stress. We'll be right back sitting around Support for this. Podcast comes from progressive. What would you do with an extra eight hundred dollars by plane ticket paid on your student. Loan treat yourself to those shoes. You benign with progressive. You could find out drivers who switch and save save an average of seven hundred six dollars on car insurance get your quote online at progressive dot com and see how much you could be saving national average annual car insurance savings by new customer survey who save with progressive in two thousand nineteen. They you kinda like this guy. But when you can't decide between the filet o. Fish for the big mac and he says luggage both thank you. You definitely like this guy meal. Get it at mcdonald's when he get two of your face for two six bucks wintertime time only practicing participation may vary single item regular price guys. Welcome back to the show. We should mention to everybody that we announce who are next live on people town guests to be on a saturday january twenty seven february twenty seven february twenty seven. Nowhere comedy club We've got jack black and open. Mike eagle it is going to be amazing. I don't people town it's fun. This is what i love about this show. This show is fun in every different. Iterations that we do it in the live. Ones on zoom are amazing Get your tickets right back. And they're covid friendly you'll be safe ordering minimum or maximum. That's right and it's just a blast so we've got all that and they daniel. You can mention to your fingers. Go to daniel van kirk dot com. If you wanna hang out with for live with the rory as well as play bingo. Raise money if you win bingo in the final round. Not only do you actually win money but the same amount of money goes to a no kill animal shelter or a big brothers big sisters or food bank in your area comics. Come on and call numbers with me a lot of fun. Van kirk dot com. Check it out. Megan what is going on with you kiddo. You always doing such great stuff for you writing on anything right now. What are you working. I am writing on a forthcoming show. it doesn't even have a name yet. So that's how like. I'm assuming it's documentary kidding into comedy. It's yeah it's it's going to be a late night comedy And then my husband. And i hope podcast together all the greatest and we doing it down. Our greatest choices in many many different sports categories. Most recently we did greatest european. nba players. Don't right now coach. yeah and then. I have a forthcoming. I don't even know if i can say this. But i'm gonna say i have a fourth coming podcast with the lifetime network where i might. Naomi kerogen and i are watching lifetime movies for the lifetime network and then breaking them down for listeners. Know if you guys are taking gasp if you ever do i will sign my grandmother. Rosemarie van kirk up. She is ninety years old and she will. She will give you any hot. Take you on any lifetime movie. Yeah yes i listen. I want her So we're gonna get hurt. We are lucky enough to wear every episode. We interview either an actor from the film director or the writer of the feds. So you're gonna have meredith baxter birney on eleven times. That's she i. This is such a good idea. Good the next thing you have to do is do it for hallmark movie hallmark christmas movies but israeli but when the contracts were going on i mean you guys sometimes these podcast contracts is child west and so they're going back and forth back and forth back and forth and then they finally were just like okay. They can't do a podcast for the hallmark channel. And we're like we're not gonna do because those guy this is. What episode are you guys gonna talk about mother. May i sleep with murder. I need with murder. You need burning bed. I want all of it staircase. Whatever the one. I just watched the other night was pool boy nightmare. Those three words exist in the same phrases watched one with my grandma wants. Do not know the name. All i know is this guy's daughter died and he like owned the apartment building and so this other girl moved into an apartment and then he hid cameras around her and then like became obsessed with her and then he broke her and her boyfriend up and then he tried to kill her best friend kick his ass. Rosemary and i were riveted is by the way williams okay great there is a new liam neeson movie out where he's basically doing taken. Yeah he's doing. A kids called coyote movie. I can't believe it happening. Do that all that stuff that you have going on and let's get back to this okay. How many hours did kevin cresson call nine one one. He was just found by happens. He was found because other people saw going the distance ache and then the conscious wanted to know what address he was out in front of so said for hours. Said eight and i said eleven k. He was in that car for ten hours. Oh our i. I just ten hours. And that's i. What was the movie talking about. Nine about ten twenty eight twenty eight hours last. You're getting our blasphemy. Seven hours we talk about twenty eight days later later. I saw his arm off. Twenty seven hours twenty eight days later his arm off just to get out of quiet rivers honestly like this takes a cop in upstate. New york like you put an lapd in the same situation. They're not going to understand snowdrop slate. One hundred hours is kind of the minimum of what it was going to take this. This is the guy who's gonna find two thousand and eleven. I was in chicago and they had this storm. That's been nicknamed storms thunder. Let island too okay. So you remember this so what happened was at around three thirty pm. It started snowing and then it imports. Nope i'm talking melchior sizes it for the next two and a half three hours so during rush hour on lakeshore drive at belmont which is one of the outlets. Awfully nice us. Jack knifed and closed off all but one lane then a car eventually trying to get in that one lane broke down when you back up south of belmont the you are now in between his bamut harbor on your west side and on your east side lake michigan so thousands of cars got stock with no to go. They couldn't different part. You get out and start our lake shore drive you get out just are walking into your neighborhood these people. They had to go rescue them because there was nowhere for them to god and they would walk a mile. Oh back or forth which they a lot of people didn't have like it was. It was insane. I i walked up irving park on the next morning. I was the on each shut down the whole city. Yeah i went to the jewels on. Southfork got myself from kraft macaroni and cheese spirals. Tombstone pizzas loaded up. Were there for that too young. I was there for that. I i knew it was going to be bad so i left. My apartment went to my other friends. Apart lisa traeger. I went to lease his house so we could annoy everyone she lived with. We watched human centipede and we are friends. Were having a party the night that it started so we were walking out and a car pulls up and it was a state of emergency. You could not be driving and guys roll down the neuralink giuliana ride and we're like okay. So we get their driving. They're passing a handle of jim beam back and forth in the french and the guy driving goes. Don't worry he's a cop and the guy who's goes and don't worry he's a judge and then they took us where we were going. My god time. I was on lawrence and lawrence and broadway and ronnie woo just got into my car and i drove ronnie woo from lawrence broadway like all the way down plane ronnie woo. Who is a person who wears a cubs uniform goes he's been unofficial blue all the time and i think i must have waived or something when i saw an contact. You just didn't mean you learn pretty fast with ronnie only running. We'll we'll out santo here. The candor man suffered from hypothermia. Mike the candy man can or can't suffered from frostbite due to the freezing temperatures. His vehicle had no heat because of a broken belt. Now look i'm to fix that bellio. Don't go out out fix. Maybe you didn't have the money. He needed to grant i totally. I totally time in my life. Where i had a car with no heat and i had a space heater hooked up inside my hand out driver fire rating i. I had no money. I get it. I was in the winter. He was taken to lord's hospital and treated for his conditions. The region around a wego was pummeled with snow to tuesday storm receiving about forty inches of snow. How yeah dan. It is january right now. It is eighty degrees where we are right now outside. That's unhealthy like it's not normal. It's not healthy. But aren't you glad for like one second that were battling through craziness. Oh my god. I mean we don't chicago. There's a moment. My kids want to go sledding. So badly once once leading to the like we can go in and then come out. Yeah every time it rains here. I think about where what it's going to be like up in three days by the time it gets to illinois all right we'll get out of here in this. How old is this guy in. The car is crisscrossing. I need him to not be old of. he's like. Yeah chris kresa. I'm this feels like twenty nine. German crossen kevin crash jay z. Thirty eight thirty eight years old. I say twenty nine twenty nine. I think he's twenty three. I think he's young and he's like. I don't need to fix this belt like i'm fine. Nothing's going to happen to me. Kevin creston the man in the box. Car is ten hours ten but thermionic. Driving with a broken belt did not have heater. When the day started did not have eaten his body by the time the day was over. Found by luck is fifty eight years old trees. To course megan increase young enough. Danny's made a lot of bad decisions. Yeah he's angry. he's wow blue with something better. Have a cooler in there. Yeah and probably like child support. Check that he didn't pay said. Oh my god megan gale. You're the best for joining us Oh i can't wait to check out the time movie. Podcast we great. I'm not a big lifetime movie fan but that is right up my alley. I can't begin to tell you everything you do is and Hey guys oh shit. We gotta get back to work. Dum dum dum dumb old Starving a podcast network.

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Solomon Georgio, Garfunkel and Oates, David O'Doherty, Megan Gailey

Stand-Up w/ Chris Distefano

47:21 min | 10 months ago

Solomon Georgio, Garfunkel and Oates, David O'Doherty, Megan Gailey

"You're listening to comedy central. Yes I am a black gay averick immigrant. That's a lot to unpack. There's a lot of things going on but I don't think you need I. Don't believe in that I believe that there's too many similarities amongst us to ignore. Like I know for a fact. That everyone has an enemy list. At least one person. You don't WanNa kill them, but you want to watch them die. We all have that list I have Miami list. It's a very short, very concise list. First person that list is a gentleman That offer me a cookie. But. Then handed me a FIG Newton. Those things on comparable. Your eyes. Imagine a cookie. Is Anybody here thinking a nasty brick a fiber. With. Gross S, Jelly the middle. The only time. You can offer someone a FIG Newton. Is If you follow up with the question. Can you please this away from me? The. Garbage so far away. Elo Certain Knicks sut butts as someone sent in a couple of others here. That was Solomon Giorgio from his comedy Central Presents You can see the rest of that. You see a lot of that set on comedy central stand up Youtube. Page. They've got to clips from it that are both great Solomon Giorgio check it out. I am Tom to car what's up everybody I'm joined as always by producer extraordinary coach t our coach knowing very well, you know Malia. Due to people sent in. Sut Butts. Why don't we don't know if I'm about Sud. Butts. In sut butters I don't uh. But I appreciate people sending them in. If you have a nickname request s ut teapot at G. Dot com and we got one that I kinda. Lake. Year this is from. Paula she sent in Tom Fool agains I like Tom Fool against Tomfool. WIGGINS isn't bad again I know you don't like this but I like it to be coach inclusive Tomfool against is the is the best I've seen so far I think I like I like tomfool again. So I'M NOT GONNA lie. Well there's that's at least the we're done. I'm still getting emails about chuckle heads from people who are pro against forget it. It's over never again also, I've got a bunch of emails from people. 'cause we we did some ranting maybe a episode or two ago now about people's negatively. I appreciate all the positive and the people are sending in. Like I said I'm not gonNA read it but. A lot of people saying if the haters. We have that many eaters it's just the the just enough to piss off but you know I'll be honest I. Don't think we had a hater. I just wasn't being loved enough. I just you know that's how I am. I don't get enough of it. Now. You know. There's plenty of it coming in now and people are sending very nice stuff and again it's s ut pod edgy mail dot com and Yeah we appreciate it. There's there's a lot of stuff to get to today actually. Very exciting stuff I want to make a correction real fast. Oh. So I got a call from my mom yesterday. Apparently, I've messed up the facts. No. I I was joking about how we had. She has the same. She has an email address. That's my name because when I was. A kid choose started an email and she just picked one it was she used my name and I I was joking that it's like you can have more than email address but apparently back in the day you had to pay per email address she said, oh she verbally slapped me over the head until me. Why my mouth she was. She was just laughing about it and She didn't say that she wasn't flirting with coach t though. So that's still on the table I don't know I. About all that I think so so so highly over son I even fathom such a thought I think she wants the big. Apple Pie. It could be she has world-famous cookies. Really coach. Yeah. She actually does that she she wanted to or she she was maybe runner up for competition in my home down what Kinda cookies could you put nut cinnamon and chocolate chips is very good I. I'm a big Fan. Yeah. Shout out to my mom and an apology, a redaction. For My misspeaking we have we have some jokes that people sent in. Latin jokes being sent in and I appreciate it. They're fun to read some of them are truly unhinged and. I like I like reading those ones just as much as I like reading the the good ones. They're Kinda, hard to sort through Salami. Let me see what I got here. There's one that was pretty relevant to to what's going on this. It might not be yeah. We'll still be when this episode comes out because the election has not ended yet by the way vote if you haven't already, it's uh I mailed in mind yesterday feels good. Got My little sticker and all that Shit. This was from heart shoulders very strange name but. Says shoulder this like like a shoulder but with ice at the end of the first name was heart Ha Rt. Yeah. This is hard shoulders. In. Oh Man Hart show this is really killing my fantasy. Exactly, here's what we got from hard shoulders. candidates in presidential debates should be able to tag in backup WWe style imagine how exciting it would be just as Joe Biden started to flounder the lights went out fleetwood Mac started playing over the PA and the moderator screamed Oh. My God, that's Bill Clinton's music. Pretty. Good. I, like you. You got a idea. That would be coach laugh. There you go. That's this guy's pretty good good work hard shoulders. I. Got One more here that I will read as well. This is from my friend Samantha. Berkman. Went in she said I have a beach body in that I, still have sand in my book crack from Five Summers? Ago. Oh Man. That's a solid joke and is a solid joke. But I'm gonNA need a visual. Jesus coach it matters when they tell jokes. kind of visual. You don't. You think he tells us joke the just shows her but no. But I mean, you know she's like really petite. I'm like I. Don't know if I buy that but I'm laughing if if she looks like fortune a, you know like Oh that's hilarious because I can imagine fortune having some old Sanan rats. Yeah. Yeah. No Samantha's very funny Chicago Comic runs a great show in Chicago called camp. Sh-. It's not happening right now but if it is, go check it out speaking of shows quick little plug for myself I'm going to be going on a little mini tour of A. Social distance all that Shit tour, I'm going to Cincinnati. Ohio. I'll be there October sixteenth and seventeenth. I'M GONNA GO BANANAS IN THEIR PARKING Lot. They're doing outdoor shows that look really cool I'm very excited to do it. That's on the sixteenth. I'll be the comet outdoors on the seventeenth. I'm also doing stuff in Indianapolis that next week. So look for that but I'll be at the comedy attic and Beautiful Bloomington Indiana. That's October twenty third and twenty fourth I believe. So if you're around there, come check that out I think you can also watch the comedy addict ones online. If you don't feel like going out I, totally understand it is masked up and social distance and all that good stuff. But yeah if you go to their website comedy dot com get tickets and all that good stuff and I think we should get to the clips man I. We got some we got some high ones. What do you think coach do? What are you pick for? Well, I I know what you picked for us, but it is Kinda interesting. I gotTA. Tell you I'd I picked today based on an email that I got from somebody actually Cincinnati comedian I believe synthesis in Josh O.`Neil let me find this email because. I don't want to mess this up. He said Hey tom loved the podcast part of me wants to test your comedy knowledge and hopefully stump your little one. Even if you know of I want to recommend a comic, not many people talk about and that is David Doherty has half hour back in twenty twelve. It's full of genius. Musical comedy. The whole thing's great. But I think listeners would love the Faq for the dod or his about texting I miss you and I hope you're well Josh oatmeal. I did not play the Faq for the DOD that isn't his opener. It's really good I highly recommend you check it out but I did decide to play a couple clips from the very half hour. The Josh O.`Neil is talking about I remembered the Faq for the dod as soon as it started up this is great and I figured yes. Yes. Don't you aren't you concerned the fans are gonNA be upset because they like make requests and you're like, oh, that's a request not gonNA play it GonNa play some from that. I gotta be honest I forgot that he requested that part. I. Did. The. Play this played his two bucks is great. I'm going to play some to part with Naccache fucking song. You know what they got to be happy with the scrap they're giving. You don't always get what you want about teaching people lessons. They go. To Spoon, feed it to you if you want to make you for the dod you gotTa. Look it up hopefully, comedy central just puts it on youtube for them. Did. Forget. I did I did put the texting song here though. I listen to this about a week ago. So it's been a minute, but you know a lot of people have asked me. In, the emails about themes for shows I've said it before I'm not big on themes because I don't like repetition of material on here. What's that? I said Yeah you're anti name. I'm anti theme. Yeah I'm not into themes for for comedy shows because I don't want to become too repetitive but this week I did see a theme and I decided to run with it and that theme was musical comedy. Watching David Authority reminded me of how much I I loved Garfunkel oats back in the day and I decided that play a little clip from their half hour as well. So it's a musical on stand up with Tom Takhar. So let's hear Garfunkel and OATES and David o'doherty. Support for this podcast comes from Microsoft teams. Now, there are more ways to be a team with Microsoft teams bring everyone together in one space with a new virtual room collaborate live drawing sharing and building ideas with everyone on the same page and make sure more of your team has seen and heard up to forty nine people on screen at once learn more about all the newest teams features at Microsoft Dot. com, slash teams. So Pat Robertson went on his show, the seven hundred club to discuss the gay marriage debate ever those of you who haven't seen it. You can watch it at like four thirty in the morning on ABC. Family. And it kind of looks like a Canadian show. But you don't know why that's. and. He said on the show if we legalize gay marriage, it will lead to legalizing sex with ducks, but he only said ducks. We kind of think, there are other animals that are more in danger of getting violated. But. Then we thought about it and we realized he's totally right to people committing their lives to one another and becoming a family in front of other friends and loved ones and putting your penis in a duck. Same thing. Pat Robertson for you. Pat Robertson once said, it's a long downward slide that lead to legalizing sex with ducks too. Men can stand side by side. And Got I hope he's right 'cause it gay marriage becomes lawful find myself a duck. And really do something. Awful. Awful. Ducks, setting ducks, we'll do it in the. Ducks got those web feed on my brain upon. puddle. And we'll cuddle. If feeling, I can't name when sex with ducks gay marriage or one in the same. Goose. That Swan. Rubber mind all night long gone away that Ballard till it's spenders. He will doing Louis all our the room. mcdonagh can give it to you dive into your gold until you say duct. We'll do it in the rain. Those feathered bodies are insane. We'll find we'll find a puddle of you the wind beneath your wings we'll follow. Feeling I can't name when sex with ducks and gay marriage or one in the same. One into the same. One Night Ricky got the most amazing good call message of all time and it went like this. Exactly. Hey Ricky. It's Malcolm I'm calling because drug and I know you won't judge me. So let's. Go Crazy. Naked Alcohol. Real Hung. You don't know this guy. You don't know where he lives like that is real confidence like he's just like you know I don't even say where I am she will find. Out what I'd say too many think it goes a little something like this. You text at three in the morning and you misspell by. You slept with half my friends on facebook and most of them think you are lame. You say that with me, it's different and you're not that big of a Dick and you disappear because you're busy not 'cause you're with some other chick I know that this might be uncouth but I decided to tell you the truth. With. My self esteem low enough to date you. It's close but not quite fair Jimmy time to get a little more desperate and you and I make an awesome pay. A totally awesome care. I seem like your perfect target like I've been lonely for too long. You haven't had sex inbar ever and admit that you're not wrong with I would rather have no one been this graph. Let me reaffirm I wouldn't touch your dig if I've been poisoned and the end don't was in your sperm. The uncouth but I decided to tell you the truth. Who My self esteem not low enough to date you. It's so close but not quite there give me time to get a little wasted and you and I could make an awesome. Hair a totally awesome. May Have guessed. Ny wrappers. and. We're also very late bloomers yet we kiss someone in like seventh grade and nothing nothing nothing college kind of nothing sex, and so we just skip third base together. Yeah, basically, we're really bad at giving hand jobs we never learned, and once you're thirty, no one will teach you. So this is really more of a cautionary tale when ended up like this. I was in a situation where I was trying to give a hand once and the guy was just like you know what? Let me do it let me do it. and. I was like I'm so sorry I'm just not good at that I felt really bad but then we did have that Nice Fan and he saw that we have this problem here is a link to a how to and so I clicked on it and there was only one step it's an use your mouth. Hit US up. Be made this beat ourselves. That's so good. Job I don't understand. got a problem. I can't contain Nikki Sticky helped me explain it. Hey, Jj like Stonehenge to me Robert said even on salt. On the messed up child of a baby boomer I was in the gifted class put a totally boomer. Now I've got a secret to get off my chest when from kissing the sex but never learned the rest in high school. I was in the marching band not learning what to do with my hand. Driven like Jackson pollock blossom later. Biala. Getting bones like Dacian. Now, trying to make it stand up like David Chapelle when I stared down the barrel of a semi hard dick feel more singled out than Chris Hardwick said he blocks rocket. The Bach, but it wasn't on the ski bus. When Tetra Tech Vapor Rub it in. Your Turkey. I WANNA, learn how to make your Watergate's glow. I'm resigned experience than I might never know how to H J. Your L B Johnson no less about Dixon Samantha Ronson. Explore new frontiers will win but I, was more conservative than out. Speak beaten up. Just like the Dow, I want to give a handover know-how. And Bland Job I. DON'T UNDERSTAND I. Do I do I away ever touch the top. How can I learn when you always made me stop Now I'm on a full blown investigation to unlock the secrets of Ejaculation I. Need a translator like I'm reading Balzac to crack the Rosetta stone over your boss acts. The part that confuses me the most and looks like a silly putty pacman ghost sometimes jello Jiggle and sometimes instead all of like Darth Vader Pez dispenser. Jackson I'm not as a chef when it soft and flabby like president. Deep South claiming that you WANNA make straight will I make it up right if I move it like a shake quakes like a shape weight. Breaks the art antilock. On Your Hitchcock's a little bathroom retarded like a hamster that you don't want to squeeze too hard. I'm working my hand till. It gets arthritis I'll be hold until I get the golden touch of Midas I am getting my descartes until A. Friend Marcia Gay. Harden the biggest throbbing question of all seriously. What do you do with the ball rolling like? Klay, do I tickle them like elmore thrown like a par? Round or covid slow. Critic putting the muppet show just sitting there. Carinthian superfluous. Don't touch them unless you insist. And Job I don't understand job. Do I two squeeze ever touching the tough. How can I learn? You always make me stop. Can earn when you always make me stop. Good Evening Ladies and gentlemen. My Name is David Odom Hertie, and this should answer any other questions that you might have. A cue for the DOD. Have a cue for the DOD. F.. A Q. for the DOD previously ask questions for day but Odom Her D. F. A. Q.. Dod. From I'm from Dublin City Hobbies Cycling Frisbee Wad of you got in store for US tonight. Rocky world and quiet gentle way. Like a delicious cake as opposed to a Mike Drugs. Beside kick no I'm the only one in. Donegal. Yes. Had describe your style of comedy. Call it Terry low energy musical when the. Or flam way. Apart from blame we do. You have any other skills? Yes, I do. I can touch type forty worth a minute full driving lights with no points on DC knowledge of geography and a basic award in water safety. GIG Very rarely end with drownings. Where do you write your material and bad at home? The couple of Botswana Catherine geography what do you think secret up a great comedian? Like standing up. Oh, you're laughing please be my friends. Believe in God's No. Beatles George Harrison earn how do you know if the right one of your enough this burst until the right one comes along that's quite a complicated question and what I have to admit I'm not actually asked all that frequently but I'm pretty sure that's something to do with not wanting to make out with other people. Thank you for the DOD. Pleasure to be here. So complicated to get a special visa to come and do gigs here, and the actual wording on the visa I, have says, David o'dowd hardy is an alien with extraordinary ability. Not as big talk right there. Especially when you've always had mild complex, the bad looking like our. I. I'm from Ireland at it's similar to Boston. It is similar. Math I'd say the main difference would just day to day life in our. It's just a bit more mystical. More smoke machines and synthesize like. More like living in an end your song. To give you a little bit of history I. Guess If you don't know about our land going right back Ireland's indigenous people where the leprechauns. Or the appreciations as known calls them and They died out tragically owing to the fact that they were all male. And that they never existed in the first place nothing you'll kill race off quicker than never actually having existed, and then the next major character and Irish history of Saint Patrick and then Patrick is the patron saint of strangers peeing in your front garden. That is how he is still commemorated around the world for one day every year. God used to be huge where I come from bigger than my space. R Kelly. Not so much anymore. I think to be honest whatever people used to get from the Lord. I, get the same thing now from the Internet because they're similar into their like invisible but all around us. And they know freaking every. The advantage, the Internet has over the Lord is that you can ask the quite specific questions. We were always told to children ask God and God is always listening so I'd be like God why do people always seem to do so well in the world and God would be like well, David here is a very ambiguous book. With the Internet, he'd be much more specific Keno, but did see any other hits apart from how? No he did not. Thank you Internet Lord Look Learn. CATA legally download deadwood off you either. Arlen used to get invaded a loss. It's very easy country to invade. It's quite small and the people are quite friendly. Initially. We don't mind that much I. think my favorite invasion is the vikings though because they came in the ninth, the Tenth Century and raped and they pillaged and they wreck the place and there are so unlike any Danish or Swedish or Norwegian people I have ever met today. It's like must of just woken up one morning on gone. You know let's not rape and pillage anymore. Invented Lego. Let's open it at shops around the world. In fact, the original Viking long chips came in a flat box throughs about that. This is a song about technology. My friend was at a Rasanjani date and the date was going really. The guy is the most boring. Guide I've been on a day is wondering why on the such aborting? It's stupid guy just then the. Guy Who do on my friend decided to send a tax number one of our friends at. The guided mode boring and stupid and including the rank Studied said they were boring stupid when the? Guy came back from the Lou. He could barely talk at it obviously just been crying on my friend realized that he'd said. Attacks. The person attacks with the bags. And tax to the person attacks the bags. Once, breaking help this girl with quite a messy break up I believe is going on with the next boyfriend hardly style with my theory. So I decided to tell a friend of mine who lives in London. Theory decided to tell him through the medium of tax message. Now, the thing is my friend who lives in London. His name is like one digit different from her name, his Paul and her name's Paula. That's an. Example shows news because Poland is the name of another girl. Song is not a bad Paul. Paul is great but must be leaving through the names of my mobile phone seeing I you. Name, hit sand. The knock year Sandik icon flashed backwards and forwards I realized what I done. Simultaneously More Alive and yet more dad Aber Falco. I. Text to the tax. You can try and pretend that it was just a joke. Oh. Just being. Rooted areas over the top inappropriately jokey way. But you can never be sure if the person believes you relationships effectively ruined daddy way. Just being honest and apologize. But now they want you actually think about they're. Probably the best thing you can do with. Their details from your phone. And hope you never ever ever see them again. Is doing the song for the first time and originally, it was just the first two versus ended ended with Bomb Bid Ryan there and I'm away epic. The. Song my tax mess my pocket. So I pulled on my bike seat who was from. A. Friend of mine who'd been on the GIG The tax message. The GIG I've ever seen him do. Party, but he's really loved it lately. Even. Though he phoned up a minute later, we had a good lab. Brian key play. I still can be sure. He didn't. and. I. Thank you. Right you just heard Garfunkel and odes and David o'doherty and you see their coach I'm not such an asshole. I played the Faq from the dod the Faq of the Dod bit from David O'doherty I. Just forgot I did and that makes me the full but you know what I give the people what they want from time to Time I. Knew It. Uh, I give these dogs a bone, and you know what else I forgot to do is I forgot to tell people how to send jokes emissions, and because you can't just into that email, you got to do it through the website that's on comedy central's website C. C. Dot. com if you go to podcast, you'll see our page but also if you want a quick way, you can go to my instagram. It's Tom to car T. H. A. K. K. A. R., and it's in my bio to the link on there. You just click that and you can submit a joke and Yeah. You just heard Garfunkel notes and David daugherty some musical comedy. I. Hope you enjoyed it. What did you? What did you think coach? You know it's really crazy because when you sent this over I was like Garfunkel and oates, who are these guys is. Out and then I was like, so you take a look at it because I like that title and I love those that comedy duo I'm unfamiliar with them but I remember they had something called a hand job hands blanche. Yes I thought that was ingenious that happened. It's a great song. It's fun. It's. It's a it's more than a Dick joke it's a good time and I I really like it that is so honest it's so honest and You know. It's I appreciate. Some you know somebody having a good time. Being whimsical about about sex and the way they sing about it's very fun. There's a video and it had me hooked but I had no idea that that was the name of the comedy duo yet Garfunkel notes, of course, based on Simon and Garfunkel and hall and Oates and they combined, and it's Ricky Linda home as Garfunkel and Kate. Makuuchi as oats I loved them when I first saw them and They're they're great and They definitely inspired a generation of of not even what do you call it? UKULELE play? Some good. Some really, really bad. But they are great and I. saw them at the comedy attic years ago and my buddy opened for them. They were so nice and just murdered, and they had a huge fan base that I wasn't aware of how huge they were but they are they are very popular and Yeah I remember when Kate Makuuchi was on scrubs I was so excited because like I i. already have a fan of this person. It was It was great. Let. I want to get into. Some some more business year I got I got an email from. From this guy and it says a joke detective slash advice. This is from Jonathan Eva. Says Hey, Tom and coach first off loved the show I was wondering if there was a place where we could look at old joke detectives I can't remember all of them have time to look now we don't have that I don't think but if you just you know fast forward to. Around this part of the show that's where they usually are. So it's it's easy enough to find A. Guy's name. This is Jonathan Eva I think Jonathan's should log in to as many devices as he can continually listened to the Dow to podcast just so we can get so many more listens. There you go. Out You know yeah. Help us out. Give us some more downloads. In fact all you guys do they. Devices going. To number one. If you're only subscribe to one platform, I don't know about your loyalty. Need to by having Obama phone habit logged in us. I. Think if if you guys are GONNA be true. What was it Tom Fuller's or whatever, or Tom Ford? Tomfool begins or whatever that you gotta you gotTa do that He did say second I'm looking at making a move in my instinct says New York but Austin is also on the table. Do you think the moving to New York is as important as always I. Guess what I don't want to happen is built my comedy career in Austin than start over from Ground Zero in New York five years later, and then he sent some some nicknames and. I have a tough time saying not to move to New York because for example I did I had four shows yesterday it's still you know it's still popular here it's GonNa shut back down but everything is and I would have told you to move to Austin one year ago I would've said moved to Austin comedy touted you say that I would say if you are new to comedy if you're somebody who's within your first two years maybe Austin Chicago Denver these are great comedy cities is a year ago. Because everything I, the reason I would not say, Austin? Right this second. He's sadly so many things shut down and they don't have capcity anymore, which is the main reason to move there although they do have a great great local scene and a lot of my favorite comedians came out of that Scene People Brennan Walsh and Martin or Bano and just a ton of of great comics. Too many to even name, but it's A great scene a great comics even there right now I mean Mike McRae is there. I think Martha Kelly's from there. It's a great scene but. It's it's harder now to do stuff there. Maybe Chicago I would say because here's here's my advice to somebody who's within the first two or three years of their career, and this is all assuming that this pandemic ends within a reasonable amount of time to wear you'd you'd be able to resume a normal comedy career because otherwise you might as well stay where you are to be honest because. You can do zoom shows once it gets cold. I. Think a lot of this stuff is GonNa shut down again so. I would. I would advise moving to a middle ground city in the reason I say that is when you're in New York or LA. There are head hunters here. There are people talent scouting basically, you can get seen by the wrong people. Too early or the you could get seen by the people who can. Make things happen your career too early and the first impression you make will ask for a long time. So if you move into a city having done comedy for enough time to where you've really built something and you can impress people that's when you WANNA strike that's that's what I would say that's what I did and I've heard from industry insiders that that's what they like. They like to see somebody who's already their full product and it's hard to manage when that time is. But I can tell you if you brand new, it's not it's not now that's one school of thought. The other school of thought is get here as fast as possible and that. Way People will know you and you'll have built a network that you don't have to start over I started over three times. So it's not as it sucks, but it's it's part of it. Any better every time you moved and started over three I moved three times I moved to Ohio Chicago and I moved to New York and each time you have to prove yourself again to a new scene it's a pain in the ass because nobody wants a new comic in their city like there's only there's only so many Maoz that get fed and so proving that you deserve to be one of those in in a scene that you're new to is hard but. It's it's necessary as well and I think that it makes you stronger I really four times I've had to do it because La too. But that's it gets easier once you've done it enough that you serve visiting places and you build a network that way too. But I I would say move somewhere before new. York. If you're if you're trying to. I. Just based on the conversations that I've had I'd have to ask the guy like what is your goal? Your goal is like, Hey, I want to comedy I WANNA go on TV it's like okay that has to factor in your goal is I wouldn't become the sharpest comedian in a whole entire world yes. One thing that people have mentioned that have heard comic say is like Oh yeah I was killing it in in this little small city but then when I came to this city, you know it my shit wasn't really working so it's almost like The audience like when the audience has more access to comedy, you get to develop your comedy stronger kind of what I understood Absolutely. Yeah. I think this is where somewhere like Chicago comes in handy because the people there are really People who have been doing it fifteen twenty years there who just want to stay in Chicago and who are great, and so they they push you to be sharp but it's also a place that you're slightly safer from getting seen by you know there is industry there, but it's not. It's not as big and you can just sharpen your tools and you can like I said this is if there's A world without a pandemic, you can travel Milwaukee it's very easy to get places. I think that's a good move but again, New York is I think the best place for stand up comedy and if you want to be really challenged and yeah, it's it's a great place to come to. So it's you know those those are the two things to way I think I had the question, the brand newness of it though, right? Yes. Yeah. New. York ain't the place to go doing new shit like that like. Well. Yeah. Yeah. It's not an environment for that because like I. So I guess it's like I ll always viewed. The standup lifestyle is more like a lifestyle unless of something that you're doing, it becomes your whole entire lifestyle and like is this you know Willing to commit to that lifestyle. Sure. I. Yeah I'm curious about too. So let us know Jonathan email me again and all. We'll follow up from there but I will say this about New York. It's getting more dangerous. I had somebody punch me in the head a couple days ago just randomly on the street I got rick. Moranis coach Tom Are you serious I'm not kidding I was walking down the street. Minding my business, I was going to water my buddies, plants, and teenager just I. Know I know a noble cause. This this teen I thought he was trying to steal my phone or something that's happened to me before where I get. My phone ripped out of my hands. So I gripped my hand my phone really hard kind of away because I just saw him looking at me weird and then he lunged at me and punched me in the back I moved. So he punched me in the back of the head and they sprinted off Tom Crazy Tom. I. I. I don't know what to say other than I'm just going to express myself unfiltered and I don't know how you're going to take this. Oh, not audience is GonNa take this but my instinct is i. wish you were back in La so that I could help protect my co-host. That's just what came to my heart. We gotta fly you out to hold on I'M GONNA call comedy central. Coach flowed out to. Put Hands on the greatest joke detective. I WON'T STAND FOR? This. When you're joke detective in the streets, there's always a villain trying to take. Like. My car got broken into these people are always trying to stop me the joke villains of the world who who want jokes to be forgotten because. You WanNa. You WanNa. The nicest in you know most well intentioned people in industry and I'm being one hundred with that. Just based on our on our dialogue and people are arriving new beating you up. I'm like with you're not making a case for New York right now I know I know and I love it and I still would like I made a point of walking around later and like I was like I'm not going to let this freak me out. The Guy. Just burn off. The weirdest thing is it was just awkward because I'm not going to chase this kid down the street like he was with a bunch of friends and stuff. So I was like I'm not gonNA chase this teen around like how dare you so I just had to be like all right and then I just kept walking. In a bunch of people. So it was broad daylight. It was three thirty in the afternoon three, thirty in at noon broad daylight guy looked really healthy like he wayne yeah. I it was yeah he seemed fine. It wasn't like he was an asshole but yeah, he didn't seem like crazy. It just seemed like an asshole are we have one more clip for you guys today and? I'm really happy to bring it to you this fellow Hoosier in Indiana Zone Megan Gaily, and this is a clip from her comedy central half hour. You can see the whole thing on CC DOT com without further ado here is Megan gaily. Play Fantasy Football No, no too busy making women come. It's hard. Sometimes, a guy will be like I'm in five Leagues Generic litters the. Maybe. You should focus on that before you're trying to make high end trade deadline's. I love fantasy football because I know where it is. So I can play It's higher than you think I love it. I was in three league last year I want every single one of them. Coma God the feminism is overwhelming. It gets a little less impressive. The I league was all comedians. Yeah, it's like okay. I'm the only one with a computer. Yeah you can't like write it in a notebook and mail it to Goodell. The Second League was on my guy friends from high school. So this one was really really serious. They really wanted to win. They needed this. I've seen their wives on facebook so. When I won they were so pissed, know what Meghan fantasy football isn't even real unlike one. Thing with fantasy in the title. I get it. I don't watch Harry Potter like it's fucking. Documentary. The thirdly, that was the third league I was in an all female fantasy football league called Saxon the city. I wish it was ally. These vicious wanted to lose to they did everything in their power to make sure I. couldn't win right before we did the draft, all the gals got together and they decided that we weren't allowed to pick any players who ever committed any violence against women. Okay. We'll take six punters and Airbud. All right that was Megan gaily from her comedy Central Half Hour on C. C. Dot com console thing and if you like the show today, just like Netflix has their algorithm, this is Tom Carter them. Garfunkel notes and David Dougherty I. Think you should check out Caitlin Cook and AJ homes you'll like them a lot and. Like subscribed, share the show all that good stuff follow coach t at coach underscored Ta Tom Dicara T. H. A. K. A.. R.. Last name sending jokes go to the CCA website. It's in an email joke detectives all that good stuff at s ut pod. com we will see next week with more of the podcast. This has been a comedy central podcast.

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"Hello and welcome to hysteria. I'm Erin Ryan this week. Eliza master Monico joins to answer. An important question is America ready for a male president? Then it's an OG hysteria reunion when Kieran deal, grace par and Meghan gaily. Stop by to talk about what the American dream means for kids. Trying to go to college is mayor Tucker, see real or ally, we tell ourselves then as always the hills will die on. Little housekeeping to get things started. I if you have a hill that you'll die on that. You want to submit to the show recorded thirty second voice memo and send it to hysteria at crooked dot com. Second item. We're definitely working on merch bugai's. And you'll be the first to know when I have an update we're working on it. We promise third if you like what you're hearing. If you listen every week, please rate us and we've comments on itunes. It helps people find the podcast. Let's get started. Hi, eliza. I how are you doing have you landed back where you belong. I feel like I'm singing a song right now. You are. I'm here at my kitchen table, just like on the Twitter machine. That's well kitchen table parts. Good Twitter machine kind of bad. Yeah. What are we going to do today is going to be like rant central and that actually kind of that leads me to the news that I wanted to talk about with you this week? Oh, no question that's been on my mind since it's been on my mind for a little while. But the the question is this is America ready for a male president? Are we ready for the emotional upheaval of the talk of a potential male president? I think that's a that's a related question because Twitter is a place where I've been experiencing a lot of people's reaction to candidates declaring themselves. First of all let me just start by saying like women and specifically women of color. Young women. Unmarried women have been the backbone of the Democratic Party for a very long time. And they were the engine behind the democratic party's twenty eighteen wins, and they're the face of the new Democratic Party. And so when people like Bernie Sanders and Bidault aerobic declare their candidacy, there's a certain part of the party that isn't that excited about it? Right. And the question is is like you don't have to be excited about it. Right. Like, this is what I'm having a real hard time with right now is that this is like the crawling stage. Right. If this was like, if if twenty twenty was a baby we'd barely be crawling right now, definitely not on solid foods. And so while everyone is sitting in reading about people in learning about people if the white bro is not free. You just. At large than just learn about all the other people running and make the affirmative case, right? I find myself trying to gauge when I'm reacting to the candidate themselves when I'm reacting to the coverage of the candidate. And those are two those are two different things. It's M I reacting to Bidault aerobics policies or am I reacting to the fact that bit Rourke has been afforded a little bit more seriousness it by the media than women with similar amounts of experience. And I think that it's the ladder. And I and I hate to have the ladder spill into the way that I react to the former and that's something that I'm seeing happening. It's something that I'm trying to make a conscious decision to separate myself from, but it's really hard because it feels like the media hasn't really learned its lessons agree, and, you know, look, there was a lot of fervor around. Like, I think Beddoes probably the best example of the polaroid. Ising or outsized coverage right now. And it's like look this is a man who ran against one who ran against someone who ran for president against Donald Trump. Right. So more people in America knew who Ted Cruz was than they would have a couple years ago. And of course, then they know more about the man who took on Ted Cruz now to me, it's like, you know, bettas out there there's enthusiasm. There's a lot of backlash like he's just speaking in platitudes, and he's just about enthusiasm and people aren't giving Elizabeth Warren enough credit will end and not paying enough. Attention will then cover her more. You know? I mean like for you. I don't know about you. You are probably more intellectual than I am really gone to on your gun. I'm not going down the rabbit hole. Trying to learn about everything that Warren is talking about in. It's fucking brilliant. She's so smart like. But the thing is is if the coverage isn't going to help break down what she's talking about? So that people who don't spend all day on the Twitter machine can understand what she saying. And they're just showing clips of the man giving the speech because it's rousing. And if you're in the kitchen, and you hear it on the television, you're gonna look because it's interesting. So I don't know I find the whole thing so frustrating. I'm so first rated right. It feels like you're when I'm paying attention to my own reaction to things I feel like I'm watching time myself up in nuts because on hand wrapped around the axle, exactly on one hand. I like this candidate I liked it. He's inspiring on the other hand. I don't like that. He is getting an outside amount of attention on the third hand. Now, I have three hands. He is the fact that he's getting attention might mean that he's our best hope, but on the fourth hand, maybe the person who would have the best outcome, and it just becomes his whole. This little tornado of trepidation. And I and I don't like feeling that way. And I think I don't know how to untangle it. And I don't know how to extract myself from it. I just kind of stand back and watch it happen. And I don't like this. I don't like it. And couldn't agree more. Let's move onto the next news item. I don't want to spend too much time dwelling on this because the more. I think about it the more creeped out. I get yes. We're gonna talk about Scott, Lloyd, who is Donald Trump's appointed head of the office of refugee resettlement or the I've been I have been preaching about him for a year. Yes. He is among the the weird creepy anti-choice zealots that Donald Trump quietly installed in places like a health and human services, and the oh are so Scott Lloyd was removed from his post after an ACL. You lawsuit exposed that. He mishandled reporting abortion requests for migrant teens. So these are not these are not adults these are legal children and they are pregnant and they have requested abortions. And Scott Lloyd has made it his mission to interfere with their right to have an abortion. So he's been removed from his post but in two thousand eighteen eighteen unaccompanied minors. Sued the are while Lloyd was still in charge after being denied abortions, Lloyd argued that they had no legal rights terminate their pregnancies even though some of those pregnancies were because of rape. And last week. Rachel Maddow reported exclusively that Lloyd and the are had been tracking the pregnancies and periods of refugee women ages twelve to seventeen as recently as June twenty eight teen. Holy shit. Yeah. He's a horrible person. He's always been horrible person. He was utterly unqualified for the job. Like, Aaron the the Trump administration went to such lengths is to pick someone to head the office of refugee resettlement who finds refugees repugnant. Yeah. And he also has written in the past that birth control should be legal. The birth control should be legal you should never have sex. If you get raped at your fault and under all circumstances. You should have the baby. So this man was in charge of resettling refugees had no experience and was tracking their periods was tracking their pregnancies the spreadsheet, which was obtained through a freedom of information act. Request contains really really creepy information that could actually be used to identify the women, including their location Justice age when they crossed the border the document this is maybe it's not funny. But it's just one of those things that I have to laugh when I read it the document misspelled the word menstrual mea N S T R A L, which is a perfect encapsulation to me of the Scott Lloyd school of anti-choice thought, he I mean, well, first of all when you think about what the office is supposed to be doing, you know, like resettling. Refugees. Clues job is it to track the periods of these women? I mean need to be honest. I really at forty three have a hard time even tracking my own period. So like who is the aunt Lydia that they hired to handle this part of the operation at the OR. That is a great question. I also have another question we had a difficult time. According to the administration, we had a difficult time tracking children living born children who had been separated from their parents. So why are we capable of tracking periods and pregnancies and not living born children that seems like such disconnect to me, I would say that connection. You just made could win you a Nobel prize. The problem with Scott, Lloyd, and Elissa you brought this up is that people have been pointing out a problem with him for a long time. Why do you think that it took so long for him to be a removed and be for the general public care? The same reason that it takes everything because in the grand scheme right in the grand scheme of everything. This administration is doing this is like, you know, a way below the fold story it's been on the back burner, but in terms of like immediate crises that they create so that they can escalate so that they can de escalate this one has just been like at a low simmer. But for a year. And so now, you know, I think that finally the story has gotten its do. But I mean, I think you and I have been talking about this as an under reported story for almost a year. Right. And when you're a woman who has a pregnancy that you wanted terminate there is nothing more important to you than to be able to control. What happens inside of your own skin? Pin? And I and I hate that stories that relate to women not having a right to what happens inside of their bodies become back Bernard. Because when that's you that is the most important thing in the world, and it sucks that where in a society where we constantly push aside. The immediate bodily needs of women, and what we can say is by bitch to Scott, Lloyd. Yes, that's a hearty by bitch to Scott, Lloyd and opposite of by bitch to you because we're out of time for the news. Right. Love to love the hysteria gang. I'll talk to you next week. All right talk to you soon. Bye. Bye. We have to take a break. But when we come back, more hysteria. This hysteria is brought to you by squarespace. The future is coming make it brighter with squarespace. The future is coming as such a such a sentence ominous. It is so ominous. So you can make it brighter. I guess with squarespace journey cool idea into a new website, showcase your work blogger published. Content mentioned blocking wall. Announcing upcoming event or special project and more squarespace provides. 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And we are going to personal political this week with a panel of OG's, very. Oh, jeez. Yeah. I cured deal actor comedian three-hitter guys how you doing. That's a weird way to start the what that was me. He goes siren. Yeah. I made my own siren that won't move. All right. How are you? How how have you been man? I'm good. It's nice to see your face. Thanks. It's okay to see yours. No, likewise. I was being a bitch. I don't know. I it's not like America's sweetheart. I mean, no, America's soulmates, America's soul mate illicit on it, go. Yeah. That's true. Okay. Next. We have grace par. What's up guys? Hello. How you doing great? I'm so good. My hands are dry. What I don't know. I just I'm feeling like I need lotion at this shit in your bat. I gotta get a into my bag I have on my nightstand. Now, it's I've been getting these gel manicures, and I think that they are making my hands dry. Let's fair if they are not wrong. Meghan lotion on just don't like rub. Your hands into the microphone because that'll AM are not an SM are podcast. This is a regular podcast. No. It can be podcast can grow into be whatever it's going to be just. Karen? Except we have comedian actor funny person rubbing her eyes, Meghan gaily. How you doing Meghan? I'm good. Yeah. What have you been up to? I've been on the road. I was in your home state. I was in Appleton, Wisconsin you? Wanting you said it was flooding and snowing that's the same time. It was beautiful there. True story. I was on face. I never use Facebook anymore except to see what people from my hometown are up to and somebody from my hometown posted a news story from Barron Wisconsin, which is for my neck of the woods in the state. And it was it was local man creates lazy river in own backyard. Do like that had because it was flooding and snow so he had made like rivers around snowbanks, and he was floating on an inner tube around it and like holding a beer like. Yeah. Holding a beer holding. Yeah. We can all get behind that. We can. And the accompanying news story was like winter's what you make. In that sort of demented end of winter mindset that you get into when you live in the midwest. And you're just like it's March, and if won't stop snowing, and it's great and the snow is like dirty at that point. It's like sweatpants. Nature's worn all winter. Yeah. Gross. It holds onto. I was like I need a vegetable. And there we have wings. But then you have cheese curd. Yeah. I understand why you're not eating vegetables. Like you need it layer. Fatty you've been hibernating. Yes. I'll take my LA vegetable wanting ass right on home. Well, let's get into a kind of contentious and interesting and thought provoking topic. I was thinking about this morning when I was taking a shower Elizabeth homes that every who everybody is obsessed with obsessed with her Elizabeth I wanted her to succeed while doing a different voice than the than the low men than the Loman boys blood is hall. We that's her kinda normal voice heard. I have squeaky voice that would have been more of a challenge. Yeah. Like Delors umbrage. Oh, yeah. A lot harder to just carry on for Sino. She she roads sexism into ninety million dollar company, but your voice lower. But I was thinking about Elizabeth homes and how everybody is obsessed with her right now. And I was thinking about that in the context of another story. Everybody's obsessed with which is the college admissions scandal, which is going into its second week. And it's still just as delicious as it was on the. First day, yum. Yummy, the leftovers really keep really to really to corn bread stuffing. Exactly it just keeps keeps getting better or a good curry. It's just the flavors of settling in. They're also clinging to it. Because it's almost fun new story. There's been in a while. Yeah. It's kofi. You know? So we need to keep it going. If am Becky I mean, how great is that like an icon from our childhood just diminish right? And her name is Becky to. Yeah. Her her character. Name was Becky, which is so perfect for a white lady. Who's trying to get honored privileged for her white daughter? Yeah. That's I think at the root of it and the root of what is interesting about the Elizabeth home story and this called mission scandal story, which is it is a story about Justice coming to people who got things that they didn't earn through cheating. And I wanted to talk about as we were talking about this story of the emissions scandal. A lot of people brought up the fact that there are many. Legal ways that rich people kind of cheat their way into college and get a leg up and that's through living in school districts that afford their children better opportunities that's through buying buildings that's through hiring people to write college essays for their kids cetera. And and it sort of brought up the affirmative action conversation again as well like legacy, admissions versus -firmative action, and who gets a leg up, and who should who belongs in college, and who doesn't belong in college, and how generally fucked up the whole process of getting kids into college is and Karen, I know that when we were kind of group texting about this. You had a lot of thoughts on affirmative action in legacy admissions. And as somebody who went to well as one of I guess everybody here went to a really good school. But as I mean, I went to a fine school. Depends on the major when you have to say that not great. Okay. I would love to hear your thoughts on the general state of college, admissions and privilege as it applies to people getting entire education. I am one woman who went to Harvard. I went to Harvard say it's seventy seven more time to try to took you like five episodes before you let that drop again. Air rare. No, I don't think. But I notice that it's a lot of the men that I know he'll drop it. I think it's an identity marker for people. But I'm always of the opinion that if like the biggest thing that you've done is gone to an institution that has a legacy of other people who've done dope shit. What have you done? What did you do when you were seventeen years old? Oh, did you cure cancer? You didn't get the fuck out of my life. That's how I feel about it in like in general. It's like, that's not your accomplishment. That's a a privilege and an education that you were able to weaponize for me, Harvard Harvard is pretty complicated experience because there are a lot of things I really didn't like about it. And then there's some stuff that was really incredible. The reason I can right now is because I got to do a like a creative thesis with Jamaica Kincaid, who's like this incredible novelist, and you got to like work one on one with an incredible novelist for year, which is like a skill that, you can really weaponize an understanding mentor. Ship can play such a big role in your ability to kind of galvanize even your own talent. And that's a big thing to me is like how do you galvanize your own ability? Right. And I went in and I had just worked really hard and went to a public school, and it was like two hundred thousand people in like relatively meritocratic. And then I think getting to Harvard was the first time that I was like oh shit. This is like this is pretty rigged. It's like a about. I was just very surprised. I knew how hard I had worked. And and the naievety I think just the night. I was just naive in that like, you know, that like rich people exist, but this is the first time that you're like going to school with the daughter of the head of Blackstone, and like, you know, or you're in the theater department with like, you know, a kid who's like let's just like put pretend to be puppets in a bell tower. And I'm like, I don't think this means anything, and then turns out that his dad was like one of the lawyers on Apple's like he's never going to have to worry about making stuff. That's like marketable marketable ever. Do. You know, what I mean like understanding how much that privilege affects your perspective. And and that not being disclosed. And then you get there. And it was like it felt like about a third of the place was like was legacy is linked people who go on ski trips and do all of that. And that is that is the case that that Harvard admits disproportionate amount of it's literally every percent or any other of them. It's funny because when you describe your your experience going there, it sounds like you went from like the scene in a musical where the protagonist comes twirling onto the stage carrying suitcases like here. I am to the scene right before the intermission. She's like fuck this. Within ten second wicket and school ties combined. I'm don. I'm Chris where is my alpha? Chino? I'm still looking. I think that the meritocracy question is a really interesting too. Because it seems as though people who attend really fancy schools or or high profile schools a lot of times come in thinking, I deserve this. Because I of who I am versus I deserve this because I worked hard. And I think that's a really interesting divide grace. What was your experience with that? Well, so I had a pretty I was very lucky in terms of my journey to get to Columbia his school that I that I ended up going to. And I think a big reason is because nobody in my family really had heard of Columbia. I grew up in Houston, Texas, which is a big big city. Of course, most people who go to school in Houston wanna stay in Texas for college. There's a lot of like you're gonna go to UT or am. That's the big question. So when I found out about this, cool, you know, awesome highly academic challenging school in New York. I was like I like to go there. And then I played early and got in early. And then it was kind of done. And I think I think for me it was advantages because I wanted to get out of Texas and go to New York, I think for Columbia was like, oh, we have a Mexican American Girl in Texas. That's something of a rarity. 'cause there's a lot of people on the east coast who tend to want to go to schools like Columbia. So it was win win for both for both parties. I definitely remember my family explaining Columbia and to our Latin American, friends, and and friends in Mexico. They're were like Bill. Okay on me, because it's not a safe place, and it's university, and that happened more times than I would care to admit, so yeah, I mean, but I I think I benefited from my parents, not understanding obviously everybody knows Harvard and everybody knows Yale. And I think that in certain circles, people definitely do know Columbia, but my benefit from my parents, not really knowing and for me, not really knowing what that what is world was like because like here, and I didn't have the experience of growing up with a lot of wealthy people who did whatever it would take to get their kids into these schools in my parents, certainly valued education by all means, but they're not the parents that were like they didn't know when SAT happened. I never saw tutor. I never grew up with this. This whole like focus on on on being basically gearing your entire outta leci- towards getting into the best school possible. They wanted me to go to college for sure as my older brothers had done. But I the pressure that I see a lot of these kids in this college admissions scam story. Experiencing the idea of having to basically from the time that you reach, you know, twelve or thirteen everything that you do every move that you make is geared towards getting into this this top school. I didn't experience that at all. So I was free to just do the best that I could do academically and be as interested in things in the world as possible. And then that bread this this amazing experience. But I also know a lot of kids that I met at Columbia who had who felt this pressure for so many years to try to get into these these schools, and then once you're there, it does kind of feel like a relief and care. I don't know if you felt that but my experience at Columbia. There were a lot of lot of students who felt like the hardest part was getting there. And once you're there, then it's like, okay now, I don't necessarily have to go to grad school. So if I only get three point five GPA, that's fine. But once you're there, this is something that I found at Notre Dame that there is sort of some grumbling among white students about diversity, admissions, some moons and like my roommate's at MD. Both of them were. Latina and one of them once had somebody tell her that she was taking somebody's spot. Oh, no. Did you ever experience? It. I mean that was something that I kind of sense just among some white students who got in there. They thought, you know, I did this item this, and then you know, there there are quotas. And this is an right now, I am not in any way expressing my personal opinions is just the way that you hear people who don't like affirmative action talking about it. Did you ever experience people telling you that you were taking somebody's spot? I didn't personally I mean, I would argue that a lot of the a lot because the scandals interesting to me because it's like, it's it's so blatant, and it's kind of like when somebody uses a racial slur. It's so blatant. But like the issue the the bigger issue there's like systems at play that everyone is implicated in. So like, nobody nobody at Harvard ever would say to my face. Oh, you don't belong or you know, anything like that. But but what does? Does exist is like those final clubs exist where it's all. It's like all like, I'm not in the community where somebody would even have that conversation with me June. I mean, like people at Harvard hundred percent people self segregate enough that like you're not going to be in that conversation with the people who are grumbling about like, you know, what the demographics of the school. Like, you just will not be involved in that conversation. Those are private conversations that are happening behind closed doors with certain people who then like might know, you know, what I mean? It's like if those any and we talked about this a little bit with sororities. Do you know what I mean like, how do you? How do you matriculate up an out with an education and turn that into a job or turn that into opportunities? And a lot of that is who you know, I would say ninety percent of that. So, you know, that's the advantage of these schools that like has to be stated and colleges almost sort of like the first really tangible example of what will continue to exist for the rest of your life. You know, we now work in an industry where? I look around all the time. And I'm like, I'm not competing with other like talented people, I'm competing with other talented people whose whose dad was an executive producer on law and order. Yeah. Or like ran Warner Brothers. And so college is probably the one that's like the worst. Because I think college is a sham. I will. I had this conversation with my brother recently. I was like, listen if my kids wanna like go to college specifically to study, something, listen, I'm supporting I'm happy for you. My mom taught about out of occasional high school and every kid she taught went and had a job immediately after and wasn't a financial burden on themselves or their parents like there's a lot of different avenues that you can see I went. I mean, I am an affluent white girl. That's how I grew up. I think my parents would never gonna pay fifteen thousand dollars. For someone to take my SAT's. But I was given every single opportunity that I could I went to a state school. And because of that I pursued a career in creative arts because I did not have the burden of debt that would make me enter a traditional field to start carving into that debt. Yeah. Yeah. I think that that Meghan you bring up a really interesting point about people having opportunities in leveraging them in positive ways versus people having opportunities and just thinking, this is just how things are going to constantly exist. For me. I'm always going to be able to have all these opportunities. The world owes them to me. And as you were talking Meghan. I was thinking about what Kieran said earlier about meritocracy, and I almost feel like the illusion of meritocracy exists. So that people who are super rich can convince themselves that they've earned that they that. I have all of this because I am better than other people. But that's and now my children will have all this because we collectively. I mean, that's I think an element of this whole story. So much of this is not about the children. It's about the perception that getting your kid into a certain school. We'll give you as a parent. So do we believe that America is America Crecy? No, no, no, no, no way at all. And I think sometimes, you know, I've I've been really lucky in my life in different ways than you know, we're all lucky in different ways the ways that I've been lucky as I grew up in a small town. We didn't have any AP classes. No real property tax base. You know, no real advantages when it came to college prep. I was lucky to be able to succeed enough to get into a good school, which I did not use at all after I graduated. I didn't use it. I've never used a Notre Dame connection for anything except sometimes people Email me and be like God. It's cool. You went to Notre Dame. And I'm like, thanks. Connection that I've used entertainment, and I never used it. When I worked in finance. I just feel like one of the things that I wanted to get into as you know, as a as a rural white person who grew up in a middle to low income community. I feel like a lot of times people like me are used as anecdotes for why people y affirmative action shouldn't exist. Why people with different racial and ethnic background shouldn't be given consideration. When being admitted to things because the argument goes, it what happens is people like me people from Frederick, Wisconsin who didn't have any AP classes, get overlooked, and it's poor white kids that end up getting the short end of the stick. And I'm kind of tired of my story being used to allow, you know, suburban the me the mega tired of errands, but they mean, the mega mega, but, but the thing that people people wear the extreme version of something they're not experiencing as reasons that they should have advice. Tages that they didn't earn. And it really really bothers me. Stop it. I do think the tough thing about this is at some point the white people doing this have to become aware that they're doing it. And I just think that's not going to happen. Like howard. How were we going to convince these super well-connected wealthy people that they need to start policing themselves when they have never done that in the past. And I think it's very hard to. Yeah. Like, no one was fighting me to get into. But if someone had come up and been like, oh, okay. But I am I am a low income like black girl. I think I should be going to produce. Instead of you. What parent are students going to be like, you know, what take my spot. That's true. I also think that some of the attitude that people have toward college is like I think a lot of parents think of college as an expensive summer camp that they get to send their kid to they just get to the I went to that summer camp. But don't have to go. Kala you can go in like work for a year. You can youtuber like Livia Jade already like was. And you're rich. That's what's. Razi was crazy. We grew up in an era of like dare don't do drugs. Don't smoke weed. You're gonna go to hell if you do, and you have to go to college you have to like from the first grade on you have to go to college you have to you have to go to college. And you know, I know a lot of people that didn't need fucking go to college with their doing. Now, nothing, you know, who I think is the most interesting. I drops the mic. Radio where she. I want that to sound shitty. But it's like you just can't assume that you need to be wasting one hundred thousand dollars to then do. Nothing. It's like a social club though. People treat it like it's a fun activity to do for four years for their parents. It's four to me the most interesting person in this college admission scandal is not Loy lock Glenn. And it's not even her kids. Not Felicity Huffman. It's this guy men will end Rica's who's Dominican who's the only non white billionaire who's on the list of parents who put his kids through this scam. And to me that's really interesting because he. We did it. He's gaming the system. All these white people have been doing what how can we blame him as much as we blame the white people in this system when he's really just doing what they've been doing. They've set a precedent. And he's an immigrant is like, well, I guess is how it has to be done. So I'm going to do it now to daughter talked actively about how his her father gamed the system in order for her to get into Georgetown. I think it was. I think it's I think it's fascinating that that's now the side effect that we're seeing that that that that ethnic people that minorities are like, well, I guess if I can't beat them. I'm just going to have to join them. So I'm going to have to earn a billion dollars. So that I can get my my kids into college this way because that's how it's done. I also think there was this even that good of a college for that amount of I mean talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Being upset because there's there's classism even within you are able to say that because you went to Harvard, but then there's people being like USC's a safety school. And it's like, but then you're shitting on the school that a lot of people really do. So I'm not I'm not saying I disagree with you. But it it's layered. And an you're able to talked about it because you went to the best school in the country. I. I find myself asking the question like about meritocracy a lot because it's like you on a personal level new to each individual. You have to believe enough in whatever system that you're in that you don't stop trying. Do you know what I mean? Like in a way, my biggest advantage was ignorance, I genuinely believed in America Crecy. So I worked my ass off as fucking hard as I could. And I did my very best. Like, my mom was always just do your best just do your best and wherever you fall that's chill. Like that was kind of like in in my house. That's like how so healthy. Also like it puts a lot of pressure because you're like is like oh that my best is that my dad give it. I mean what I another two hours into this. And you give your best to everything. This is a lie. I mean, if you really think if any individual things about like think about your fucking best if you're running what's your best. You're not doing your best. Every time you go to the gym now doing your best. When you're choosing your even doing our best right now. I haven't even done my best fucking. Our best work. Exactly. Yeah. It's like we are disappointing ourselves actually, injure mother, and my mom is also disappointed. But I'm saying that because it's like, but the result of the ignorance of not knowing about systemic like about this like kind of rigged system is that I did go to Harvard Lilly Singh. I look at somebody like that. I don't think she knew how rig Hollywood was. And it's like an as a result. She's the first late night host who is a woman in a minority ever. Do you know what I mean like, and so it's this weird catch twenty two America does have upward social mobility where things can change. It's also incredibly rigged, but you on a personal level have to kind of believe that your work can shine through or make a difference or be thing. And also aknowledged that his system exists that is going to put you on an incredibly uneven playing field, but not like not necessarily let that affect your everyday actions. A lot of that is your parents and your schools also giving you the freedom to understand that. And learn that journey. On your own rather than dictating from young age. This is the way it's going to be this. These are the steps you have to take the and so to that extent. I completely agree with you. When you say that that ignorance is bliss that you had in many ways, the ignorance to be able to go down that journey yourself. I think what we're seeing with a lot of these. The fact that you can pay one point five million dollars to a college counselor that will step in when you're in eighth grade to walk you through every step of the process to get you into the best school. Imagine the anxiety that puts you through from such an early age arable way too. Herbal. I say. If you could pay Kirin deal three hundred. We gave you the same. I. If a call. I'll we'll fuck Skype. Whatever there is this like to back to the this Dominican man who's my hero. That is part of that is part of the American dream poll yourself up by your bootstraps. But part of the American dream that is have immigrants raise your James. Our you immigrant how other invading is that like people always want to give their children a better life than they had. And you hear all the time that we will probably be the first generation that does not have that like our parents will have nicer houses than we had. And maybe some of that's because we've lived in a place where it's financially. Yeah. Some blood this country. But it's that slipping away of like, you know, the first time our parents went on a plane they were twenty and we went on a plane when we were five or like, those tides are changing, and I do our was eating. Yeah. I think some of these rich people are is Libya Jade gonna make as much money as Massimo. No, baby. You're not. Okay. You're not you're not you're never going to but they feel that slipping away. Because now they're hail Mary pass. It's interesting. How tribal we're seeing people get like, I don't think that we often adhere to familial tribes. But when it comes to college admissions, and when it comes to your own legacy and the legacy of your last name, we are seeing people get fucking vicious, and it's interesting. I don't think that's throughout all societies. I constantly think about that. It's like the tribe is really humanity. We're like all in it. But we don't see it. But we don't see it that way when it comes to like categorical opportunity, the tribe is, but yeah, everybody's in the tribe everyone's on the planet that dying planet. We all go to fucking live with this this water and shit, and that's the tribe, but tribalism has because I was like that's existed. An almost Dr. Yeah. It rivaling dares her. Do you get it? Sociology one. Oh. Tribalism has since tribe. All right. I think Karen, the you bring up an interesting point about like idiot confidence. And I mean by that. I mean, like, you know, baby sweet pea crawling through a construction site. That's the only way to advance American society. You have to not know all the things that are swinging at you and all the ways that you could fall that I documented same thing. I would never have done a documentary. If I knew what a nightmare. It was going to be to make one. Yeah. I didn't know ignorance being of an asset. Yeah. You have it hadn't be an asset. It confidence. You have to just be like, well, I have no idea like I'm just going to go for. Well. What's blitz? The point at which that that idiot confidence is too much the snowplow parents I worked protecting your kid from sauce like in the New York Times article which keep thinking about is his too much. That's too much. Ignorance don't have your kids the like as a fan of Demi gli. I love Demi glace. Oh, yeah. It confidence turns into hubris. A certain point to continue going on from that first win for the second one people who have financial, and that's where having wealthy parents makes a massive makes them Matthew me like such a cool job nine outta ten. They were able to take an unpaid internship led to another low paying job yet that led to a cool job that now lead them to a very cool on that Potiskum is surrounding. And then the I the one thing I do want to say is that like this is why I'm always saying everything's a construct like money. That's why that's really why say it. It's like it's like every it's all made up. None of it is real you don't need a fancy car. You don't need to indicate wealth to other people like you need enough to live. But like it's like really genuinely like it's all construct. It's it's like Harvard is a construct that somebody made up it's all construct, man. I really looking construct man. A lot of my. The place that invented the cons. Yeah. This podcast is a construct concert. But I wanna I wanna go back to something that I that's right. You got it. That was almost Elizabeth home Z, right? That's right. Got it. But going back to Elizabeth homes and going back to the kind of collective glee. We're all getting from these people being exposed makes me wonder why why are we so gleeful? I don't know a single person who's guys here. Livia Jade out. Nobody even people who themselves possibly benefited from something like that. Everybody is trying to other is these people why do you think that we're experiencing so much joy in watching people who have something that they didn't earn being taken from them. Because how rich people are the easiest people to hate. You think I think I think that's I think that's a big, but they're hot rich people that everybody loves like, why do we hate these specific hot rich people? Well, because because how much they know that they are hot. And it's six I mean, I think about that in terms of like athletes getting in trouble a lot athletes now get in trouble. If there's a videotape. And and so like if there's not a videotape people like, I don't know. I didn't see him hit his wife. I don't know if it happened. But then when you see it. So with this. We are seeing the videotape of how these people were able to rig the system, and I think it's an example of of of how we all know that you can you can say it, so many times talker say doesn't quite exist. Even though there's there is upward social mobility more than a lot of countries have America has it. That's why it's considered the land of opportunity, but it's like an example like this one shows you it's like very it's like it's like, oh, we've been told just work hard. Like, there's a there's a m- the American dream is really baked into the narrative of this country. It's it's like, my can even know that it's un-american Crecy. But I don't believe it in my heart. You know, what I mean because it's been so baked in this idea of like anything anything is possible in America isn't the aspirational ISM of this country is one of its biggest exports all around the world in a way. That's really beautiful. This is an example of like people are feeling it in their lives. Right. Like people are feeling it because they're not able to save or they can't buy a house, or you know, they're struggling. God damn I'm working so hard. And I don't have all the things I want I'm going to Costco. And now, I gotta return. You know, got a Costco better than me. Soon as it took a Costco term like this is based on personal. I was just thinking about being in the line of returns, a Costco. I mean, the shelf was forty dollars. It's wild. I. Who who am I Queen return the show, you know, I think that we're getting so much glee from this? Because we can't as individuals necessarily bring legal Justice these people, but in the public sphere, we can shit on these people on Twitter constantly, and we can bring them public Justice. In other words, we can collectively do something to make ourselves feel better about the situation. And that is calling them out and talking about it making jokes about them. So there's no there's no legal what I'm curious about is with the legal recourses. But what I know is already happened is tarnishing of their reputations. And that's something that we've all contributed to. So that's part of why feel so good. It's because it's public shaming, right? And the hard living truth of like this system is rigged. Yeah. Exactly. Living proof of that. And it's so hard to find to find like sympathy, you know. And that's why I think we do have to turn them around ourselves and say like, I don't want this to get to Koumba. But who knew you know, what what's? Let's play off even the. Singing singing it like home peach that at Har, I wonder you didn't get into Juilliard. Yeah. Was getting for singing Aaron this. This is the part of a story where we bullied, but that's. That's. But mostly bully curent. Okay. I see I see how it is. So we're not going to get to buy. But even though we just did even that would just did. I forget what it was going to say it wasn't going to say, oh that like we do have to look at why it is that we are not allowing ourselves to find sympathy for these people. I understand that we all again, we have every reason to feel that these people have to be mocked and and deserve to be ridiculed. And I think it's fine for us to do that. But also at some point do we have to take a look at what led them to this chain of events, and what we can do to prevent that down the road for for everybody. And I don't think the answer is them unwell in Rica's, Meghan Galea's. Which is just like, well, if billionaires are going to do it then the answers for us to become billionaires do it too. But I think the only way that we find a solution, ultimately or number of solutions to figure out what the core of this is to begin with and how we can remedy that. I agree. I also think that the idea of the court of public opinion having a much lower burden of proof than the actual court is something that's very satisfying for us. It was satisfying and in seeking Justice for people who were victims in of sexual harassment. It's more satisfying. When we're seeking people who have victimized us in a world that gives us the illusion of meritocracy, but then actually kind of Lucy with the footballs at away from us when it's actually our chance to experience some of that meritocracy, but at the same time, it is something that rules on a set of events that we helped set into motion at and that we have participated in. So I think that's a good note to end on. And we have to take a break. I'm glad we saw. Loved it. Again. This is like the ten thing we've saw. But when we come back the hills that we will die on. Hysteria is brought to you by calm stress is a worldwide epidemic. Guys. I'm not even going to read the copy right now. I just want to tell you. I've been falling asleep. Tacoma dot adult bedtime stories dot com. Com dot com. I call ashes Steria. Adult adult, but at times stories your bed, really. They're not tied rain. They're not penthouse letters. 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France was Stephen Fry. Okay. My have fallen asleep to that one or explore the moonlit jungles of Africa with Leona Lewis if mislead ONA. Yeah. Well, she's pretty cool. Yeah. There it's really great. And there's the Matthew mcconnahey one called one. I really wanna listen to they say good. It's so I don't know sleep after like three minutes. It works even have soothing music and war right now hysteria listeners, get twenty five percents off a comb premium subscription at com dot com slash hysteria that see AL dot com slash hysteria. Get unlimited access to all of calms content today at combs comes hysteria. Get calm and stop stressing. You to be an adult. And we're back. This is the part of the show where we take really strong stances on things that don't really matter. The hills that will die on first. We have a listener hill. If you want to submit your own listener hill, it's hysteria crooked dot com under the thirty second voice memo. Caroline will listen to it. As she listens to all of them will pick one per episode. Let's get going on this episode's. Highest area. Ladies the hill that I will die on is that top sheets are mandatory if you sleep without a top sheet with just a fitted sheet and some type of blanket or do they on top of you? You are wrong and your bed is gross. There are some people who claim including John Levitt who claim that if you have devait with DEVE cover that you don't need a top sheet because you are a sensibly laundering about day cover periodically. But if you're telling me that you're washing your do they cover weekly or even monthly you are a liar. You're lying. No one. Does that nuts? Why you need a top sheet. If you sleep without atop sheet, you're an animal potentially on American. That's it. I am about to go to battle. Oh hill. I disagree vehemently. Okay. I only sleep with DEVE cover and do bay. That's it. No top sheet top sheets extraneous. I don't eat them in my life. You just raw dog your do vais. Yeah. Absolutely. I also mostly don't sleep with close. So how do you feel about that listening out of hotel? Do you like take the top sheet? Oh, I leave it on been there the night. I'm like, it's fine. But it's not my preference. This a lot at there's a lot of big words in this argument. She said a stencil early usage sheet raw. Dog. I mean, guys, we're all over the map. No, I didn't realize that Jon Lovett, and I feel the same about this. But I do not think you need a top sheet at all. I don't think so. Discussed up. She don't use a top sheet my bed also might be kind of gross. Do you watch that duvet cover? How often do I wash anything? I mean, listen, I have atop she. But I'm not saying I wash. But I do have it and it, but I like a lot of layers on top of me, you know, like ooh, seven layer dip. On the look on bills face right now is just like one of these women out. Sorry. Actually, you know, this is one of three hills will die on this week that have to do with beds. The second one that I want to mention is that we had a book of it with Eliza master Monaco last week and Tommy John fabric. And I did a live thing with her. And they all did hillsdale Diane and Tommy's hill that he was going to die on was that bed shouldn't have more than two pillows. And he said it his wife Hannah was sitting in the front row, and he like looked as he was saying it, and it was so you could tell it was like an intra household issue billows to pillows on and after after the show Josh came up to me. And he was like, you know, what I agree with the other crooked wives. I think there should be more than. Yes. Looking for pillow. Yes. Starting that movie. Exactly. But grace I understand that you have a bed related hill that you'll die. So this is a good segue listener because I have recently, I have recently come to the conclusion that there has got to be a better way than do vase. And this is the hill that I'm gonna die on this week. Because yesterday, I'm over in my bedroom because I had just wash my vague cover, which I do every three weeks minimum usually more than that. And I was trying to put this in the duvet cover, and it was tedious, and it was taxing and it was hard and my arms, which are naturally pretty atrophied. Anyway, we're feeling we're feel it. It was the small person small. Is real big. Thank you so much. And I understand that their ways of sushi rolling your way into I understand that. It's all too complicated. It has to be a better solution the device now I love do vA for sure it keeps me cozy. I liked that seven layer dip analogy, I like that too. But I there's gotta be a better way. And I don't think the comforters solution either. If somebody's got a solution. Please bring it to my attention. Use the top sheet idiot come my solution. Come it's way easier, and you don't have to wash. It's still have to clean the Duva though. Yeah. But if you have a top sheet that just like gives you a little bit of extra time with Meghan. I think that you still you still don't you gonna watch them the same amount of times. Okay. Which minimal which is. I'm like listening to you. I'm like, wow. This is really the difference than having immigrant. Parents. Many many potato famine generates. I'm like, the lone person who washes their sheets. Religiously here I do it once a week. I have. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. But. Because they're disgusting. And I'm never touching you. So here's the hill. I'm going to die in this week on a lot of signs for dental offices. There is a motif, and it is a tooth that has arms and legs in his happy a tooth that has a face on it. This is the most disgusting thing. I can imagine great teeth. Do not have mouths with teeth inside of them. Right. That makes me want to claw my face off the idea of a tooth having a mouth on it and opening there's other teeth inside. It's the most horrifying thing that I've ever seen deep throat every time that way thought about the fun mirror aspect. It's horrible Meiling tooth. There's one there's this one dental office that used to be around the corner from where I lived in Brooklyn that had a massive tooth with a big fucking mouth on it holding a toothbrush like a spear and horrified I had to avert my eyes every time I saw it. There's another one along Melrose here in Los Angeles kind of in Korea town, and I can't look at it. Me so angry dentists stop putting teeth with fucking faces on your signs teeth. Do not have faces and that is the hill that I love it. It's like a heart carrying a defibrillator. This is not natural. It's like an eye with an eye on it. It doesn't know doesn't know. I just like a jolly like non-human. I like I like a share that's like dancing. I love. What about a toothbrush with face? That's fine that okay? I with the faces five anthropomorphic objects that are not single body. Parts are fine. Single body parts with faces that is where I draw the line arm. What about just a smile? That's fine. Smile. Smile is fine. Yeah. But the tooth with fucking face. Oh, I get you. I think this is wonderful Aaron I approve. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Meghan. This was inspired by one of the articles that we were reading the sauce girl. If you're a grownup, you can't be a picky eater. Like once you hit a certain age, you can have three things, you know, like, I don't want all of mushrooms, and then like a floater, but it can't be like three floater. Maybe like, you know, anchovies one day. But like if it's an Caesar dressing shirl, I'm fucking grownup, all all choke it down. But people are like just being like, no, I don't eat whole thing's not based on any sort of health issue. Just saying that they don't like. Meet with bones. I hate when be where like, I don't like chicken with bones grow. The fuck. You don't like the idea of eating meats, and you should stop eating meat. But it is you cannot be a thirty year old. That's just like, no, I just do chicken fingers and tater tots. I'd drive me. Insane getting medium well stakes. I don't wanna go to dinner with you trash. What about what about me? That's fine. They've made a choice that I don't agree with. They will come to a restaurant with you. Anyway. No. I definitely have a lot of vegan friends. I got some pregnant friends. Let's eat with people different than me. Pickiness for the sake of pickiness Illich. She has a long cigarette. I look man do the work. It just drives me and say your taste buds change every seven years. So how have you not evolved? Hold on. I don't know. My mom told me that it's gotta be. It's gotta be MRs gaily pay a nurse. She said, it's. We have our moms say peg love that love that her name's peg. All right. Both have peg we both have got to marry. Like, I don't have. It's not going to blow her mom spot up anymore. Already. Did come on guys. All right. Mom's name is a peg. All right. Karen, you're up. Fuck. Then MO oh, I'm done. I'm done yesterday. Three times people were like, can you know, you can't fucking then. Mommy, give me cash. Write me a check. Then MO is a third party app. That is not FDIC insured. I think it is insane that you expect me to give them my my credit card information, or my or my or my any sort of Bank account information. I don't trust them. I don't know them. I don't know who they fucking are. I don't want more information out about know. So that you can pay me eight dollars. I went on a date yesterday. It was shut up on a coffee date with asp Faulk. Who was like literally said at the end of it. He was like he was like, oh, no, no. You don't need to put in for the seven dollar Earl grey tea. You can just then MO me through my entire purse in his face. I was like first of all what? Why pay for the tea? That's the first thing. Second of all I'm not fucking Venema money. Karen booking? Earl grey tea. I can't shit. Yeah. It was wild. I can't. I just can't with McKimmie cash. I don't want your fucking van mo-. I don't want to split it with you one ven mo-. I don't wanna talk about ven. Mo if you say the word van Motoo to me, I want to smack you in the mouth. I think the real hill. Here is no more dates with people who aren't gonna pay for a Cup of tea, and then ask you to pay with Venema. That's just was why would say go out for drinks like a grown up. I just didn't. I haven't had time. Okay. I haven't had. Offi? I'm like, you know, normally normally I yeah. But the night stand up, it's hard hard Martin Joan invite them to shows. That's that all the time. This Tinder day here. It's like, what's really? A worse. The other thing I love about coffee dates so back when I was dating was that they haven't expiration time. Because when I have to be like what the dates over. There's a I can laugh about ninety minutes. Gotta p well we can wait for me or I like putting a hard out on things if it's a stranger don't vend Melham don't send him to that. Don't do. It. Don't send me have event. Mo- Meghan van Mohit. And I didn't I should have just been like. Yeah. Yeah. Alvin you and the never contacted me. But I put on a card. I was like I was like I was like, I know all fucking pay for it here. Fuck you in my mind, in my mind at that moment. I was like I will never see Lisa. I would buy an enemy a Cup of tea. Yeah. I don't even have to like you still fucking pick up the tab on a couple of God damn team understands like a good. I mean, you're yeah. But she was like one is this. Why are we here? This was a great hill to end on the died. We're all here with you dying on this chilling at first I was like, I don't know us all the time. But now, I'm like in this circumstance. Yes, abso percent will die on this. That's all the time. We have here in grace, Meghan. Thank you for showing up. Thank you for hanging out. Then also a big thanks to master Monico for calling in and talking about the news. They'll be more hysteria next. With. Bandied gets her gun. Shut down.

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Satan Boy Summer (with Naomi Ekperigin and Megan Gailey)

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Satan Boy Summer (with Naomi Ekperigin and Megan Gailey)

"And we're back for all the episode of keep it of iron madison. The third. i'm lewis for tell and guys. do you know what i just heard. I talked to a dentist. I won't say which one many reputable i dealt wanted us out of the profession. Call them out drop. I was like oh interesting. I was like i'm interested in getting my teeth bleached. They're like did you know that. Crest white strips basically the same thing anyway now. This is like an advertisement for crest. But i was shaken by that. Those shouldn't be the same thing. Bleaching sound so much more scientific test tubes are involved but not the case. I have always been personally confused about teeth. Whitening for teeth bleaching 'cause like is there a process where you can just go into the dentist and boom your teeth or whiter or our people's teeth so white because they have veneers which i write. Veneers is a whole other universe. Why do you refuse to do the veneers. Just because i think that you notice people have the nears because they look insane. Typically green hillary death. Oh yes her heyday right. Maybe even haley. I i kinda wanted. The look of a sleazy seventy eighty s game show host. You know what. I mean with giant chompers and like the glistening tonight grin. I really wanted that. So yeah. But i'm going to stick with my invis- align had it for eight weeks. He's got a few more. So i'm excited to get a liner soon. I feel like it's just we're bombarded with so many options. There's like smile direct club and invisible line and candid and bite. And there's just too many options at rather. Just continue to have the snuggle tooth at this point. You know what i eat. I wanna white to summer. Oh god ira- ira- don't step on the keep it. I just let it. Just give them a little preview. Let's given what is called foreshadowing guy really. We would stay. Stay in the shadows. Oh also would like to issue a formal apology beyond saved for stealing a million dollars worth of things from her storage unit. It was oh it was me. Well i mean you need something to do together in the pentagon and you know theft is an activity. I also by the way. I want to issue an apology last week. Iran i we're just ad-libbing having a good time and casually said that mickey rourke was in breakfast at tiffany's like two or three times. It is definitely mickey rooney. You are welcome. If this comes to fruition because i would love to see mickey rourke and breakfast at tiffany's i would like to see. Did you re listen and hear the attack line. The community came for me. So i mean we could have issued corrections before we probably should every week because listen. We are people with a lot of pop culture in our brains. And sometimes it will accidentally say mickey brown as mickey rooney. And then someone named abigail will usually be in your dm's and saying i know you all didn't just confuse that we're idiots. Meanwile their shots when we pull out the name of someone from some nine thousand hundred sixty three. Abc director dvd film. They didn't have. Dvd's dan what to issue a correction. For what i just said about abigail. I feel like it's not that fair. Mickey rourke mickey rooney knock that egregious. It's not like you guys said. Mickey mouse was fighting. A tiffany's the problem is that this is a weekly show. You know so like if it were daily. Like a viewer something. We could corrected the next day. A week has gone by. Who even remembers that we started right. We're not doing a huge shit here and being on the air. I need time off. So there's know that about me anyway. Let's get the show started. I guess we'll be joined by our friends naomi paragon and meghan gailey. Who have a new podcast about lifetime. Movies to the funniest women enjoy them so much and genuinely our friends is such a fun conversation. Yeah and don lemon his back. He is gored to dial us up and tell us more about defunding. The police have we got it wrong. We're having a conversation. Which is what's important during these time. Yeah can't wait till these times over we don't have to have conversations anymore. Yeah i'm ready to shut the door. So speaking crane. Going to mush right. Boy summer's coming. Pick up chains poking so. I can't talk to anybody. Speak to my stomach. Like the french jew also obviously little knows extract it music video. We're going to talk about that. So we'll be right that and we're back every time i am. We're back sound like job. I was gonna say to me. You sound more like like jenny. Jones or something. Jimmy joe talk show okay. Okay from geek to chic. This episode is going to give a lot of ira becoming john evolving into your true form. Or i don't like that i'm so sorry might be who you become an american love it in los angeles please now take on the crooked dynasty before we jump into topics this week. Should we do a quick episode of guests who died the official off-shoot podcasts. Because everybody fucking died this week. Starting with walter from most notably arrested development a show. I actually have to say. I failed to get into at the time. This doesn't shock me. David cross not really. My brand. I prefer will are not on thirty rock. Jessica walter the imperiousness with which she played the part of lucille booth uninhabitable and also a death that hurts because again you just sort of have a feeling like oh now it's somebody's time and she felt very vibrant right up to the end was an archer. Obviously all forty seasons. Yeah just an unforgettable performance. Yeah i know. I absolutely love jessica walter beyond that you know. A lot of people were also mentioning play misty for me which is a fun film that you should watch even though it has clint eastwood in it doing that. Same face that he always does Rankled scarecrow yeah I mean it's really. The joey trivia auni like smell the fart soap acting right that he always does when he's on days of our lives on friends. I feel like that's what clint eastwood has always looking at. Or it's like he forgot to put on sunglasses. And he's like squinting because the sun's in his is a lot of that in all of his movies definitely definitely. Yeah just go. Walter gives a great and creepy and shocking performance and also gives that character. I think more depth than was actually intended. And i want to also shout out a movie she did in the sixties called the group which is based up mary mccarthy novel and it's about a bunch of women who graduate from vassar and it's one of the first showcases for candace bergen to actresses i love elizabeth hartman and joan hackett and jessica. Walter is so assured right from the go and it just makes you think like it took until arrested development for her to have a real signature role and she truly had it in one thousand nine hundred sixty six so there's an entire career of work to enjoy the one thing that people actually don't know about jessica walter and maybe it's t at. I shouldn't be saying but whatever mentioning days of our lives earlier. This show that joey yati was on on friends. There's a character on days. Vivian alamein. She's a villainess. She berry someone alive in the s. Anyway she's played by this actress. Louise sorel louise wasn't gonna come back for a stint on the show. And it was almost cast as jessica walter. I was told. I bet she would have been fabulous she. Yeah she almost like a brief little few week arc on days realize and i heard what she allegedly did not do. It is because she did not know that louise played the role right before her and apparently they're close friends as she didn't want to take over a role that her friend was comically known for her friends. Most famous role. Oh i see. I say she didn't do it. Generous queen alright. Noble ya imagine that in hollywood fuck that. Get to that age. You don't give a fuck anymore right. You'd think but if i get asked extra next season fuck you. Ira cutthroat right over him. Yeah i'll see you on set our announce it right here. I'm in season three. Dan every episode. I'm a cast member. I don't know how they got to dettori. Peretti do something. I'm worried. speaking of dependable actors. We also lost. George segal this week. Who i am wearing my. Who's afraid of virginia. Woolf shirt which i'm sure you guessed owned and his placid to your skin probably but that's fine. Oh yeah this is a town. had common. Uniform has virginia woolf locked in his bedroom she keeps trying to drive herself. And i keep saving her ask but george segal. Was this guy who you probably know as david spade boss foil on. Just shoot me. Yeah he was on the goldbergs. In recent years but was also in the sixties and seventies this actual movie star. He was in things like a touch of class. And fun with dick and jane. If you want to see jane fonda robbing banks just one of these people that you would hire for everything. He's in this movie called. Who is killing the great chefs of europe. Which is a real movie title. I think it was ready to the first time i saw him was in flirting with disaster with ben stiller movie yes absolutely is the epitome of jewish father. Anxious do is dead. And it's hilarious and the goldberg flirting with disaster is very underrated. I think yes. I did not realize that the boss from just shoot me which i did watch. Of course i did was from. Who's afraid of virginia woolf. I hope i've never connected that. The idea that somebody was magically the perfect screen partner for both elizabeth taylor and david spade is brain breaking you know what other wild movie. He's in california split. The mirror has two faces. Oh he sure is in. The mirror has two faces. Revisit that barbra streisand class. And by the way what you should really revisit is the best supporting actress handout at the oscars that year because lauren bacall is sure she's gonna win for the mirror has two faces and juliette noche races right past her. And i'm just gonna say. Lauren bacall already has a frosty look on her face. She becomes like just the rudest gargle when juliet pinocchio wins and then literally apologizes to her for winning. It was in libya coleman glenn closer to situation anyway check it out also some inside. Keep it baseball fans as we know. Every week i come up with episode titles based on what we talk about. I was looking at a george seagal filmed to play on the title during the week of harry and meghan. Because he's in the film with goldie. Hawn which i've never seen i just know the title on the poster for the judges and the dirt water. Right yeah so witchcraft. By not using it. You wanna own that what you want to have attached to your name. I've killed many celebrities list at this point. Asked me where. Jeremy renner is somebody. I've forgotten to think about it and he did have an app once upon a time. Anyway this has been guess who died and but guess who. Lives tina turner. Did you guys see that documentary on. Hbo max over the weekend. It was just casual interviews. With like oprah and angela bassett. Yes yeah one. One of the best documentaries. I've seen in a long time now. Sounds like keep it true. Yeah once we get oprah. We'll be right there with. Hbo documentary my have two problems with documentary. Though one something they convey well. Is that tina. Turner had the tina. Turner zing factor right out of the gate. And i still have questions like where did tina turner come up with tina turner because nobody was matching that energy level anywhere else and popular culture. Because it's issue wasn't like elvis and she wasn't like the rolling stones though they do go to great pains to say she taught mick jagger how to dance in a certain way. How did she. She had no performance trading no musical training and yet she just knew to be that electric very shocking to me. And then secondly they did not play once my favorite tina turner song which is typical male from the break every rule album in the eighties. And if you haven't heard typical male that is like the swimming east. Poppy est tina turner. You'll get right in the deep end. Those refreshing about watching that documentary was seeing a young. A black woman perform with no desire to remain like makeup faced and not sweating. She was really just leaving it all out there and sassy auntie at the barbecue mullet and most performances. I respect that. I feel like part of it too. Was you know if you are a person who grows up in black music tradition specifically in that era a lot of your performances or whatever. You've probably seen involved church ob so i feel like her movement. The face you know a lot like you know like when someone's being like the holy ghost took exactly which oprah fully said about tina turner and watching her perform for the first time like it was just so magnetic. You had to become a part of it. Yeah it was so great to see this on see just sort of like How much influence culture. Because you know she is an icon but not one. We talk about that much But through her. Own designed to be honest. I mean she talked about how Team in the musical which we talked about with katori hall Who wrote it The book for it how that was sort of a farewell to her fans. You know going to see that because she lives in zurich with her man is twenty years younger and was fine when they showed them photos of when she was like about to turn fifty and met him and he was the driver and she was like go ahead girl. My only complaint too would be that. I wish it were like a multi part documentary. You know the beauty of this was that it really dipped into a lot of the stuff that documentaries are doing right now. That media's doing now in revisiting how we interview people how we discuss women in the media in general Revisiting all those questions that people would ask her about continuous. Well after the fact years. Well after the fact and it's it's wild to see because imagine doing that now. Too especially with that harrowing story. Totally people are asking me call about tom. Precisely time. You know only oprah has re re rewatch the rewatch that interview that does where there had been The cassidy hours julianne moore meryl streep i just sitting next to her and is sort of nodding along during it being like thank god. My husbands and partners haven't been like as famous as me. That's really a problem for another celebrity. 'cause once you break up with them then i feel like people are going to always want to ask questions about that person right. Yeah but to hear the questions like someone asks her. What was the worst moment in your marriage to act like what was a low light. Something that you would like to forget. While i'm like well is. She liked to forget it. She certainly won't be forgetting it now. 'cause you just asked her about it weirdo. Exactly you bad. And not just the history of interviewers continuing to force this abuse back onto tina for years and up to now rappers have just continued to put like references to the abuse casualty in their lyrics. I think about the big east never liked that and drunken love. Yeah or always like like being motherfuckers. Like tina is in machine gun funk by biggie. It's just constantly in the culture and you know what this reminds. Me of a lot is when we were reading mariah carey's memoir earlier last summer and at the very least it's nice to see women on the other side of the abuse speaking triumphantly about their past. That was nice but just gives me so much. Tommy mottola and the psychological and verbal abuse them right kerry dealt with during her time and you just pick the moment i never seen too was when they're at the venice film festival and she's sitting there next to angela bassett and the team for what love got to do with it and the press asking her what she thinks about the movie. And then she says. I'm tired of revisiting this traumatic experience And i'm really not looking forward to sitting in a theater and rewatching it so no. I haven't seen the movie and while i'm particularly grateful for this documentary because i think people still think of that movie is the definitive tina turner storytelling and that is a hard movie to watch as there's rarely a moment and that movie where you're like. I'm glad i'm looking at this. Or whatever even though the performances are obviously fantastic but something i appreciated was though they do spend the first quarter or half of the movie on. They really give the proper amount of time to the latter part of her career where she really established the tina turner brand. We know best. You know the post what's love got to do with it Song that private dancer album era of tina turner and by the way also the star of this documentary is what an incredible interviewee she is. Every of career was given way more nuanced just by the sheer virtue of her talking about it and i cannot say that for many celebrities. She really has a crackerjack memory for everything so i really recommend people checking it out. 'cause you get acquainted with the personality of tina turner as well as the persona tina turner. One thing that really hit me in the documentary too was i was talking with a friend recently. Who does it really get celebrity sort of like idolatry like people but they're not really connecting with them in that way and i'm like okay. Whatever but the civic question to the effect of. You know. Like when whitney houston died like why was the flag lower. You know because it's like oh they're of during your job but why do we all have these intense connections to them and i think that like this movie really gets that across tina herself being like wilder kozel by the fact that you know the lowest points in her life were inspiring to other people. And i think it's really just an example of how we don't talk about a lot of things in this country in general and we'll get to that when we talk about the laws video but it's like because of how much is not talked about how much we sort of suppressed things like talking about abuse or you know like sexuality or anything else when there is someone in the public eye who was weathering all these things it becomes inspirational to people who don't yet have the language to talk about that and then somewhat problematically. We depend on celebrities like that to do the talking for us. You know well. Yeah because we talked about this when we saw the britney spears documentary right being shot about all these interviews with her and even being like damn even with diane sawyer was out of pocket but it just reminds you that the way that we talk about those interviews now. We weren't talking about them than so. It's always just weird to imagine being like tina turner fan back then and obsessing over her and then every time you turn on the tv or the radio on. You're hearing one of those interviews that they kept replaying. The ones that were horrific to listen to now. You might have had a sense that they were horrific back then. But you didn't have the like mainstream links to discuss why that was problematic because she continued to have to endure it. You know so like. She wasn't standing there and being like hey. Let's do this. you know. And it just reminds you that a lot of celebrities up being sacrificial lambs for the conversations that we have in the future in culture amongst ourselves. I'm just gonna remind everybody get typical male. It's way better than the which is the signature song away but anyway well. Dm me about typically. We'll fix the shit's creek Also you know what they didn't get into divas live ninety nine where there was backstage footage of elton john and tina turner bickering and she goes you hear her. They're practicing for their big performance together. You hear tina turner say what's that. Pat pat pat like somebody's playing the piano in a kind of boogie. Woogie and elton's like that's me and so there's this contentious moment of you're playing the piano went away. I don't like. I wish they would have gotten into that. In fact i think all the divas live every single year should be its own. That's what ryan murphy should be putting his money into. Retailing's of the divas live series. I really love moments like that where people interact with other bigger celebrities. And you see. They're like bob tensions happening. I forget what. I was watching recently but there was a clip of like share performing without out in like years ago. And i'm just sort of like what was that performance. They like and then did they decide. We don't like performing with each other right. all i know is elton. Once called madonna fairground stripper. What does he think of cher. As louis talks about typical. Now i will say that everyone should revisit the album after private dancer break every rule. What typical males doesn't get enough play was doesn't get enough play but afterglow. I'll be thunder. These are hits get into the tina deep cuts. That's what you should do after this documentary and hbo max. If you're listening that very cute tina sweater that kept sending to influencers billy eichner. I wanted i way so. Send it our way or at least you know. Send out a link to work and buy it or at the very least if you have a time machine and can send me back to nineteen seventy five so i can watch. Tommy live if i can actually see the broadway musical live. That would be good for me so anyone's available with technology. Let's go speaking of tommy. I saw a clip of an margaret. The star of tommy performing with tina turner. And like in a way you might intuitively think. Oh there's sort of a like like their hands are up everywhere. They're like really swimming dance. Movements watching and margaret. You see what. She is lacking in comparison to tina turner and it is very interesting so watch that performance. If you can find melanin you might be onto. Something i was gonna say is he giving addison. Rae stitched with black tiktokers during the same dance. But me look at at doing more shit anyway max. Pr girls if you're listening Those are the things that we want. And i know you're listening to just waiting to see if i say i hate it and you know what i did. We'll be right back. Keep it is brought to you by away. Travel away is a modern lifestyle brand that creates thoughtful products for every traveler. 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Yeah we are contractually in love. We're gonna marriage lifetime point because you're new podcast podcast. I love a lifetime movie. Yes this is this a lifetime joint. Absolutely we're coming from a andy network any network alka affiliate. It does seem like an ideal marriage of convenience. If i'm gonna a situation with anybody a better be the lifetime network. What did they give us. Drop dead diva. Yeah i mean all the grades. Papa is kind to you. They'll send you anything you want anything you want and you ask them what you guys want. I'll get it for you. So i can get like the biography of alan alda or something one hundred percent. Oh that's what i want. Great great. I'll make call. When did he become a male feminist. I want because my question was going to be like. We're y'all just like in. The pandemic texan each other about your favorite lifetime. Joints where you like. Listen jodi sweeten. And i can't get enough of it. We got a pot about well. Okay what happened. It was like you wanna do a podcast about lifetime movies. And i say yes. 'cause that's mostly sitting down and then they said who do you want to do with and making you know what it is about making person i know white person i trust and i just feel like considering most lifetime movies or white women in peril i needed to have somebody that could roast in that community as opposite yes i lived in a sorority house where there was like one room where lifetime movies were literally playing on a loom and i almost never went in. That wrote like. I would sit in my sports room and then walk through the lifetime room and i'm just happy that honestly might qualification which is being white and you like trash though is trash. Okay we said. I've seen the cheerleader texas murder when multiple times. Yeah i i love all trash and and we've definitely found things in the lifetime universe that are so near and dear char heart to jaw heavy westfield about vce andrews. Are you familiar with. The work of andrew is she. She the one with the the kids with the incest cast. Yes seattle now. Lifetime has redone those movies with heather graham as the mother daughter from mad men as the daughter right weather area and children. It was wild heather. Graham that's the kind of thing lifetime we'll give you. It'll let you know the heather graham is okay. Oh yeah yeah. Yeah with the little dash of incest on the side rice. Well that's to now. She came on. Keep it right. She came or keep it and we weren't sure if she was okay. Ellen burstyn is right. She secretly does like five movies a year. She's like the other. Eric roberts naomi judd was and i was so i mean to watch naomi judd. Act i don't think i've ever seen him and i it was. i mean. She died pretty early. But cecil funds naomi gets great coughs. Yeah there's a lot of coughing in for nearly judd. But i'm really proud of her but also you tend to see her act. I'm like what is she. Ask but like be making other than picking up a lifetime. Information from lifetime movies like right fusion in the sorority house. I had to start watching lifetime movies to keep up with my own me. Or how did this work. Oh yeah so. We watch a different movie every week. And i've learned so much. I did not know that lifetime had black movies and and will say that they are better when i turned it on and see meghan. Good i'm like okay. I'm in good hands literally. And it's naomi in my dream to make the first interracial lifetime movie because are black lifetime movies in white lifetime movies but they are not allowed to come together. And naomi. And i think that's what the world needs now right. We're going to integrate rock nine style coming up to me. Networks we bouts. Change the world calling jordan now. Are you planning on doing like a lesbian interracial thing where you both star. Is that where we're going or is this. I am in the mood. I prefer the thrillers. I like any kind of lifetime whereas like secret murderer. Stocker that kind of so. I would prefer something bad. We're like maybe neg at fall in love with megan's ex and he then in mega stay away from him. And i'm like you hate me cause you ain't me and then she's right and then that man you know then we have to fight off this crazy person yet because we covered a lesbian vampire movie which is genre breaking. I had never seen that before and it was a lot of sexual sexy photographs. Yeah they they wanted them. We wanted us to be like bear. Lesbians really horny but they couldn't cross the line. It was just then photographing each other. And i would be fully willing to do that with naomi as if lesbian relationships needed more blood involved. No eight so. Does this mean you have watched lifetime movies new and old because i'm interested in the evolution of them because we think of them as one thing but for example if heather grams in a movie or johnny carson movies. Those are two different cinematic universe to me. So what have you noticed in the evolution of lifetime movies. Well it's interesting. Because i i grew up on them and i grew grow. You know like it was something it was just on tv right and you would just kind of flip and just it's on and just have it going and it's just interesting to me like who the new women in peril are like back in the nineties right like you get like know you will get jodi sweden as you said like kinda making a comeback. You get candidates. Cameron beret coming in. They're trying to do something. And so now you see. These women were like okay. What show were you on five years ago. Now this is your life dark turn a new l. I don't know. I feel like i'm constantly watching lifetime movie and being like. Oh this is like a lines you know one of the shows you know And also there's so many lifetime movies that are now just 'bio-pics. Yeah totally the lifetime. Bio-pic is really its own beast out. We only watched one harry and meghan and there's three and then we're like dying to get into the wendy williams. We keep astro were supposed. They're like they're like we can't make you to talk about actual people because we'll get sued and he was like what's that they're not gonna wind. It was so involved in hers. But then like i think we saw and then we get wendy. You know i could you know. We can't say they're not good. And we invent new ways to say. Things are not good every week that i that i'm thoroughly impressed with favorite phrases. It's a wild ride. Your shit happened. That don't make no goddesses right. There was a poor boy that naomi and i did not think was hot enough and we were like he needed to be hotter and they were like you guys. That's a really weird critique of fell a pool boy the whole time and i was not a member is about and you can't say that and so we have to say. I was expecting more than one app. That's somehow legally okay. Never let you talk about the movie. Then listen dick the lindsay lohan elizabeth taylor movie a lifetime movie. Also because i think a danika mckellar movie preceded it. Yes yes yes dick. Twenty twelve so. That's my vote for your next movie. Okay i love that. Yes it has definitely seen. I mean they also did the black steel magnolias. 'wow what which i will admit on keep. It is the only steel magnolias. I've seen not what i expected you to say. Off to dishonor. Daryl hannah this way yeah well. But i've seen queen latifah got police rashad alfre woodard. They're all in this movie. Wow it's a horrible film. This sounds like a remain happy. I have seen the black version remained. It sounds go. Sounds like a remake of the women of brewster place. I was sure. Thank you say like that collection of people. Are we doing a women in brewster places that the bible really searing portrait of black drama. But i guess that's what steel magnolias is a really messy that you re too. I reread women bristol place to earlier in the pandemic during that period. We're all of us. Were like we. We're gonna read. I remember that. And then i also read men of brewster place. Whoa their side of the story. What was going on there. Yeah just a lot. Of like. Sexual tension bruce. Bruce replace books were like oh is is someone gay. Oprah's movie right. Yep yeah right my god. Wow that takes me back. How enjoyable oprah's weird cinematic failures. That's something that should be. Who was watched the movie beloved recently. I want we should be talking about that. I know we don't talk about beloved as a culture as a society. My mom is still bragging but she saw. What's the Wrinkle in time. No the recent the recent hundred the immortal life henrietta lacks shocking that and read and read that book. But that was that was that was like couldn't fail in the theater. You know early was put on. Hbo and then we don't know what the numbers are. And i think that's a good out for her unfair to say cinematic failures. I did enjoy the butler. Excuse me lee daniel. Exactly lee. daniel's the butler. Are you excited for lee daniels. The wonder years. Oh that's right. We are getting back speaking of mckellar. Thank you for bringing that back. I'm interested in the wonder years again because everybody has a weird internal narrator and it's like the only show. That actually captures the schizophrenia. We all have this was living in. I had dan eastern time. Yeah yeah but. I think they should have daniel stern do it for the black boy. Life was still daniel star rating is not. That would be real question. Have any of you seen. There are no children here. The oprah movie with my answer from nineteen ninety-three nor have i that was about gang violence in chicago. Wow would my would ask crazy to enjoy. But i do know that don cheadle is going to be the voice of the wonder years right so we're getting a little bit of yeah calming sexy. Yeah that'll be nine. We we ought to wonder years. Crossover actress in our last film. The the matter purity falls was the medicare and arnold pastors also. Did y'all knew she was british. Olivia dabo she's break. That's actually someone watching lifetime. Movies is very calming for me as an aging actress to be like there is a place and i can't wait for them to welcome me with open arms. Because to your point. I think keep it. We've decided everyone is british until proven otherwise. Okay okay we just. We never know and they always are. They do this true. They walk among us. They really do to. that's on succession. I'm not the same after finding australia's taking all our good jobs. Okay started on australians. I sound like a republican. When i started talking about back. I'm up here trying to act australian. Naomi wants to wall but just for australia. Go back to the the convict continent you came from. What the only good things that This show is ever done is helped sarah. Snook edit her wikipedia page but away. I don't know if you probably remember. This is what we talked about it but it was like i met. Sarah look at like an emmy party was like we have the same birthday and she was like. That is not my birthday on wikipedia for years and i haven't been able to charity tries to change it because change bath mentioned that on this show and now so was finally able to change it and site. Her birthday being mentioned somewhere biographers. But i love it. You can't change something on lake famous perkins wikipedia page. Unless it's like cited somewhere. Wow i didn't even know that i have no bedia. The fact that keep it can be a credible source anything. Yeah a very credible source. Truly the voices of our time we are. I mean and you're you're a helpful joining us as well. Naomi because truth one of the first time we met she was before i was going to answer them for the first time. And you set me like a long email amsterdam racks and they were fantastic. I love that. I'm so glad that you could. I got those from michelle bhutto impart only two mile it to the list. I for the next person you meet. Who says you take that list you adjusted. This is going to be like the traveling pants. Anybody going to amsterdam. We're all in the circus. I hope it's just fifteen different. Brothels i just. I'm my favorite thing i saw in the district was just like one lady. She was standing in the window on her phone playing candy crush. And i said i said that's. That's life right. Hiya that there's no friend experience of law. I saw a woman pull. Mardi gra beads out of her. Don't yeah in the window. Answered up and i was a an eighteen year old virgin and it i honestly was like. Is this possible like something. I need to be practicing. Yeah i guess my amsterdam email would just make sure you have sex before you go to amsterdam that you were looking at this woman thinking is she doing some sort of lance burton thing handkerchief coming out of nowhere magic. Israel was that for free. That's not something you should be given away the ability to do that should be paying customers. Nearly that was obviously in a theater. Okay you're seeing the show right exactly and there was a play bill. Okay wonderful union. She was using god. Thank god you still haven't revealed which whole i stopped. Oh god okay. It was out of her vagina. Not but then the woman after her put a candle in her vagina and dance to metallica. Like oh my god. That sounds so beautiful. I just do it. But things in old european countries. Because when i was in answer now it was king's day and everyone takes to the streets and they're partying everywhere like dj music and whatever and like one of the specific places where the gays were partying. And i was like you had to realize the fact that they're gaze drake gig and like doing drugs behind anne frank's house britney's till the world ends is playing football justice. She as she wrote for what she anyway heart hoping one of them was at least worry so should we play a game with time movies game jordan. Love it. hey guys. Let's play a game. Just beanie and pants or whatever he's backup so everyone's going to play the game lewis naida as well the first person to guess the name or the person who gets closest you get a point. I don't know we'll figure it out. But i'm gonna say a log run and then you have to tell you the name of the movie all right. These are all lifetime movies by the way. I'm not gonna give you all. Abc right say for young boy goes to a school for magic zoomed in. I'm ready for. This is so competitive it will be. It will be so stressful. Seek his face would he does not know the answer. His eyes are gonna pop like the teacher from doria. Okay movie number one a college student endorsed cyberbullying and even death threats. When it is revealed that she has chosen to become a porn star under a pseudonym to pay off her sizable tuition expenses. Okay cyber arlit tuition diary of a cam girl beautiful don. I'm gonna go with scam sorority. Okay i like there's going to be some sort of like web twist in it. Www judgment dot com only scams. There's really you. yeah that's it. That's a good only scale might be a little to modern but we're going good that would sell right in the room though if we'll cut that out and you you know. I think that. I'm going to give it to naomi because the closest none of them are close. Maybe no one movie is from straight a to triple x. I title title. That's that sounds like ben. Diesels bio pic. A lot of the alphabet is represented there axe to think about colleges having grades lifetime to meet triplex is sexy. Lifetime lust or forbidden. Yeah they don't just say we fuck so. I did that on the show. I'm sorry i curse station do that for the culture where all the time baby. Yeah all the time all the time. Yeah fucking people wish people. That's count all right. Movie number two a couple discovers that the baby girl tried to adopt is being auctioned off to the highest bidder. Couple becomes part of a sting operation to trust the baby selling ring. Easy mr and mrs smith. I'm certain of this certain certain undercover baby selling this was like inspector mom meghan like when a woman cover to even know inspector moms about a soccer mom. That's true true is related to gadget distant. Cousins i also think inspector gadget every time. I'm like what is she. What does mom have. Okay okay okay. I'm gonna go with orphan origin. That just that's not even good. Just i'm just going with sound like words. At this point that sounds sifi lewis acid freak wall to the horrible. I i almost said bye bye baby and then i remember. That's a store. well i'm sticking with bye bye. Baby anyways did babies-for-sale that's married payton actually olsen. Well let me tell you. The weather is naomi because the movie is baby for sale. I mean we're in the presence of a gifted person. Be us all be to get the first point of the game mega you say bye bye baby i was like. Oh my god. She's so close me. Congrat- fell swoop. Then you go first movie. Three scandal rocks a new england. Prep school when the editor of the school newspaper releases a sex tape featuring five senior members of the lacrosse team and a classmate. No this is not the elisha. Cuthbert movie the good movie editor of school paper but wasn't scandal. Part yet tape sex tape okay. But it's just five senior members of the lacrosse team and a classmate which must be girl across gaming. I okay there. It is okay okay so we would call that recording the truth. I don't know love that you really. You really establish a sense of drama. Your titles i'm just going for play and it doesn't work out. I think i'm gonna go. I know we've already had trouble expert. I'm going to go l. a. x. x x one cross looks sexy lacrosse. That's good. I'm gonna go back with a throwback play title the school for scandal which is just play and i just think lifetime steals title sometimes. Okay i'm gonna go with a hot off. The i'm weak combination of the newspaper across things. That's good every time i think about. How lacrosse players are that my rich white school. That was all boys. Didn't have across team rich white kids do it. It's totally breezy across the midwest where we had a rugby team now be ugly scrum caps. Where i'd like. It looks like a like synchronized swimmers swimming. Oh yeah nobody gets a point. Nobody work round because the name of the movie is restless virgins gross. Doesn't that sound like bad soap opera. I find restful virgins to be more sinister. The title doesn't do much for me dramas. Okay well also. They had a gang bang. So it's like virgins. I don't wanna see the tape. There's a murder there has to be a burden on that tape or else it's like cares next movie wouldn't kassy's father finds himself vulnerable and bed ridden she believes. She has the perfect revenge for her. Mother's death oh. Dad's bedridden daughter is going to take revenge. That isn't bad as it sleep. Tight daddy mountain on the price is right when somebody makes a good bit and then one more yeah. I'm gonna do that version of it. Which is rock a bye daddy. Okay okay. I'm going a little bit more military and i'm thinking daddy down. Okay okay okay. How about the dead father Okay not to classic. I think this would have been a great opportunity for the name of the film to be. Don't wake daddy head but no. It's a spin. On john tucker. This movie's title is. My father must die. Who said father though. Did anyone mentioned the word father you said. Oh you better have my points. Your point weirdly. My father must is what i used to write. My diary killed the mom. I didn't see that. I didn't get that from the log. Line actually a big fan of irs. Segue jokes like this. Might something we need to bring in the. That's my new for twenty twenty one but by the way you brought up jesse metcalfe one time yet somebody who's influence. We often underestimate. I think john tucker must die. I know but you didn't bring up. John tucker himself. I'm just saying the man was the titular role all right last movie. This one doozy pair of teenage boys break away from their summer camp to lose their virginity to an infamous hooker. She's since gone straight to become a rancher after she hires them as stable boys. They've learned about the real meaning of love and sex. This movie that's twist and turns that's blind baby for reverse cowgirl. Good he's got be oscar wilde here a pithy humorous queen. I'm gonna go with hung. Like a horse rancher lou ride till dawn okay. I'm going with the fanny farm. I've been waiting for the word point for anyone. The name of the film is the last prostitute. Not even true. That i can name three off the top of my head. Prostitutes for milk money. You know like what they did have like we oughta ranch. Only two points are naomi. And so i'm gonna to you two against each other furthest last bonus round all right. Who shot out. Whoever gets this tunnel firs thriller about a naive college student who falls for a charming psychopath. When billy owens murders his former high school sweetheart so that no one else will ever have her. He assumes a new identity as a college student you look. I know i've seen this like all first of all every psychopaths charming in lifetime the enemy even though the real world you know with somebody site within twenty seconds but love lifetime university like he says sweet. I'm dren down. Oh gosh the old college guy. All right rhymes great. This all have okay. Stalker university i am going to mention that one of the cast members is ivan sarah gay. Oh oh mother. May i sleep with danger. Yeah other data. Starring tori spelling. Yes yes yes. Be most iconic lifetime movie while i have happily seed this wind i did you did it. This is a fun wrinkle. They did remake that and that is the lesbian vampire movie that i was referencing. Which is why. It's not make james franco directed or cody rhodes. And he's in it. He wrote and then he plays a drama teacher who is warned but he didn't think he was warmed up. You just are watching it and know he's down. I was just saying. I reject ironic participation in lifetime movies like farrell deadly adoption thing. It's like no do it the way. And i don't want to hear a snicker about it. You know mother mask. Sleep with danger is what everyone who dates. James franco has to ask exactly this. Hope here with his oscars concept. You know this game really game really did transform into john. I doing segue jokes. Doing my stand up here. Only meghan thank you for being here. I wanted to keep it so much. 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The video features non seducing himself as a snake in the garden of eden pole dancing in high heeled boots and giving the devil a lap dance before twisting his neck of course there was some drama from conservatives who love culture wars. because it's all they have and they're tired of yelling cardi b. about the watt performance at the grammy and. So now they have a new thing to out about well. It's all deviant and it's all killing the black man and we have no black men left. Masculinity is dead so meanwhile everything he does in the video is basically what you would see in a pussycat dolls video. So go back to a racing car. Washers zinger excitement the excitement. I have the first time i saw these photos. I've ever you reposted them. All the photos of little nausea in the wig. And i was like oh girl he is about to destroy us. 'cause little x is the actual king of pr and this amazing like five day. Roll out that. He's been doing a long form. Standup comedy set experiential thing. And i'm just. I'm so excited. And so right releasing the fake nike's with a drop of blood in them six hundred sixty six of them hilarious. You know talking. About nike sue peg. Because they're not official nike's it's intimate look exactly like airmax sevens genius fun stunts. Yea hader continue talking about it and you know not to dwell on the conservative responses to it but for me it really highlight it. Just how obsessed. They are with staying relevant through popular culture. Right because the grammys happen. And they're talking about cardi b. and the wa- performance. And now this happens. And obviously you know. Little non-sexist would have the biggest impact sars outright now due to old town road being like that big ass number one single I think it's still has the record And the idea that they know this is dropping and they're waiting to jump on and talk about it and they always jumped on the things so quickly so it's like they're watching everything waiting for the moment to have a response. It's almost like a comedian on twitter. I gotta watch this award. Show that care about just to get off some jokes so they can go viral. And i can get more followers. That is what the conservatives do as well right you know. Meanwhile this is a man who wears like neon pink cowboy outfits. What is he going to do but seduce the devil in what looks like a warehouse party on gramatica. This this feels just very natural to me in fact i am somewhat charmed by there. Being any controversy at all about this it feels very eighties. Tipper gore when in fact usually the homoerotic controversial music video is generated by either a musician. Whose in the closet. You know like a george michael at the time. Say or someone. Like madonna who in the justify my love video had men making out and then she's in the background snickering at them. Which yeah. that's the irreverence. I like not only. Is it a queer music video but it feels like lomas. Xs very amused with himself as he's doing it too. It's not self serious. It's not super serious. And that is just so thrilling. That's so medicinal to me. Like here's like a truth about me. And i'm handling it with really cartoonish and saying fun but still somewhat emotional heft. Frankly we are due for some satanic panic first of all because solon since sinead did anything madonna's anything marilyn manson did anything we do we do for this and the the black. We're kids deserve it. And i'm so happy was actually so excited about this. Is that to address your satanic thing. I i it's taken me even a long journey to enjoy something like this. I was because i wasn't even a religious person who was like. Oh my god. Imagery of satan is turning the off right. But i just remember as a kid being like these marilyn manson videos That's too much for me. Yeah right just like even here and it was like. I think i could only get into like beautiful people like okay. This is a bob. You know this isn't a major key. I can listen to us but seeing this are mike. Okay satan. let's do it. I totally think it's fair to remain divided on how you feel about this video because i can celebrate how exciting this is for. Little gnaws the queer community and for him accepting his own sexuality. But also. I didn't like any of the state and stuff or seeing this like poorly. Cgi satan's neck getting snapped and him. Dancing i just think it's fair. I think it's fair to not know where you stand. I think you know. I would have liked something other than calvin klein underwear. Styling was a law. That's it but to address what lewis was saying before you know about it. Not being so serious. I think what was so fun about it is it is very playful. And then outside of the video he can do things like post a letter to his fourteen year old self on instagram saying I wrote a song with our name in it. It's about a guy that last summer. I know we promise never to come out publicly and we promise to never be that type of gay person. I know we promised to die with the secret but this will open doors for many other people to simply exist so there. Is this awareness there. And even this sort of internal struggle right of being whatever he considers to be that type of gay person You know just. I just mean a gay person who's happy doing whatever they want alec realize and now realizing that you can do that you know and it's so nice to have queer themes in a video to that aren't from a straight man You know sort of like playing the to gabe. Eight that letter articulates. How for a lot of people you think. The i don't have to talk about being gay or i don't have to talk about my sexuality is the liberating thing and then something changes in your brain usually and becomes. Why the fuck would night talk about this. That's the freeing thing so he really articulates. That strange introspective thing. You have to do to get to the other side of being out as one no big deal into especially my business. So i'll talk about it. When whatever candor i need to i mean we still experience that as right as adult queer people you know people our age who the. You'll always get that person who just sort of like yeah like. I don't need to talk about it. You know how many times you get onto like a gauge aiding and see people being like still writing into twenty one the phrase not into the scene where where what is what is the seed what is to see. How are we doing summer and smoke. How would you hit canada. Hot tin roof. What what is really this seed here. Because i had. I had a date with a man recently. Who's a few years older than me. And he was not really talking in the respects of. I'm not into the scene but he did say i'm not a person you know like goes to gay bars you know and like i'm not really intellect that kind of stuff and i'm like well first of all that might be the thing that i would be okay with hearing years ago but once you learn anything more about gay rights movement gay liberation you know How it is a space for you. Know non-sis white people to exist in. It gives you this whole different perception of people who are like. I'm not into like the and are going to that stuff right because it's also like you don't have to go to it because you're gay but you could also still walk around and go to sports bars. It'd be like bro or whatever if you'd like to be you know it's the other people in the community who have to go there because they're not safe in other places exactly like it's a political move in the way that i hear that you can pass in other places and you don't give a fuck about your community nor do you care or need that community the way people like us do. Yeah you're setting yourself apart Sounds like a gay imitation of life. There you go precisely and you're sobbing as you're gay. Elder is dying femara. You're like i'm sorry. I'm sorry. I will go to the abbey with you. Imagine you're still dating that man. Yeah no absolutely not a lot of that too. I've been thinking about just because I got myself and royce book. Gay bar why. We went out by jeremy atherton lynn. And it's sort of like talking about the history of Gay bars. And i think it's a very good book. So people should dig into that split book recommendations. I cannot fucking wait until gay bars comeback. I'm somebody who has basically stopped drinking over the pandemic. And i'm just i'm not saying nobody should drink or everybody should drink but i made us give it up and start drinking again. Because i miss gay bars. That much so And i miss the unadulterated version of myself. You know there's more this is. This is stopping no. We're all on airplane mode right now. And i'd like to reignite the other ninety percent of us which happens at places called trunks etc plus i just loved blasphemy in pop music anyway. Because as i said before judas my favorite gaga saw get out and he is a barb. And you. now there are shades of nikki's romans holiday performance at the grammy's were that got the vatican pissed off at her. Do i miss the vatican sending you a strongly-worded missive about what you have done. The madonna blend and bishen tour. They did in us last. We stop having we thought about it. And it's a no obligation imagining something like assistant at the vatican constantly. Reminding the pope. You said you were gonna say something about the gays right. I'll get to it again to it. I don't know what accent that was somewhere. Argentina tina and all of europe. Then it's an ira access iraq iran iraq or whatever. I can string together all right when we're back keep it. We're back with our favorite second. The episode is keep it aida already cackling which doesn't bode well just remembered something heinous that. I'm to you guys. Remember my command on johnny fiasco last year right okay. Well there was a slight. There was much smaller one that i haven't told anyone about because i hold a lot of guilt about it since it is a white man. But we're going to get into that. We're going to get into that. I keep it goes to white boy summer. I'm not condemning it. I just want to know what the fuck is going on. So i don't know if you guys saw the video. I'm sure you did chad. Hangs on her cleo. He's on her ravens. Smartphone has has declared that that he has a feeling that this summer is about to be a white boy summer. Let me just tell you. This feels unhinged. this feels. i don't know chet hangs. What do you mean by white boy. Summer he says him. John be jack harlow pretty much the blackest white men that he can think of these men that are gonna thrive. I'm not mad about him. Having their moment. I feel like it's been about a year since white. Men have not been allowed to be in the news cycle at all for anything. And they're freaking out and it's time for them to receive their their moment of fame. The spotlight go ahead do that. I can't the only rules and regulations that have been put down are no plaid shirts. That's it so. I'm just to see what happens. Here's the thing about chet hanks. If chad hanks didn't have money. I feel like he would be wearing ed hardy cologne in a tap out shirt working at nutrition store. You know what i mean. So i'm not sure what he really is going to bring to the general culture. But i can't wait to see it. I really can't. I would still wants to fuck him and that we all just admit that chad hanks his heart he's fine. He's fine as is okay and what white boy summer. I am pro white boy suburb. Because you know what the unspoken word here is. It's not white boy. It's wigan summer thank you and that's the thing. I was cackling at the beginning of this. Keep because i remember bet. I tweeted that. I was breaking my no pink big policy for giancarlo and in fact see it. And i just can't wait for the way points that have the little pink nipples out. It's going to be fun refunds. I can't believe. I have to navigate between. We're excited for the white boy summer and also we really wanna fuck chat. Hanks arrest stop. Everybody stop start looking at that man. You're thriving okay lewis. i would easily take colin. Hanks look at the screen is a man. The thing about my boy. Summer is like i'm terrified. What are you going to do it. Sounds like an art film but by the end of it all the white boys are like i don't know make it in a bentley working on each other. I don't know i'm just excited. I support there is a lot of room for white boy suburb to be abused by certain white men. I mean i'm horrified of when like zero discovers boy. Summer is We need to get him on that. Email I'm sure caitlyn bennett's husband is excited about white boy somewhere. I think that the white boys that are allowed to celebrate. This have to vetted i by black women. That's the only rule that i think means. Does this send me your. Send me your headshot. Send me any any other photos that you would also like to include and i'll tell you if you're participating because white boy summer also means is a black queen some which is all year round. But i'm sure you've seen like the cameo chat bay for like a queen rani top talk actual favorite thing about his videos is that i guess he lives on. The west side of la and videos are constantly just him walking around the santa monica pier or beach making these videos. He's just in the wild. Find that black man. He's either on the ferris wheel or getting his name printed on a grain of rice which you can get at the santa monica pier shortly after getting a smoothie in a tribal tattoo. Really think it's an invitation to step up the caliber of white men that you interact with you know so white boy suburb. But not for every white boy. Okay all right if you see me if you see me with a white king mind your business. Just keep on walking to say well. I already have a white king louis. That's right. who's afraid of virginia woolf shirts shirley royalty we gotta get out of here to explain it we should. We should have a correspondent white. Boy correspondent some meyer. I'm sure i'm sure he needs a check. I'm sure rita is tired of doling out and allow it of this. Because i have never been this excited during a keep it. I think our audience members are going to be like. She's electric for the first time in a long time but louis dried louis. What is your keep. It might keep it. It's twofold first of all a serious keep it. Arkansas just passed a bill to ban. gender affirming care for trans youth. Arkansas what have you done for us lately. Because the last time i was proud of you when you gave us mary steenburgen i would settle for even your other native son. West bentley at this point but at this point the number of indignities and indignities putting it so lightly that the trans community continues to face is just absolutely disgusting. It is horrifying to read news like this. So i can't even wrap my mind around how cruel legislation like. This is especially for a fucking state that is just another states name with our in front of it like the pirate version of kansas. Nice read together. An had the nerve to give us their fault. That we have bill clinton and i had there's that there's that but my real keep it is mysteriously to arianna guerande. Who is now a coach on the voice. Here's the thing. I think she's probably going to be good at this job. Even though most of the time she'll be giving advice like can you murmur like a baby a little more. Whatever fucking advice for singers as i. I can't say i'm a fan of hers. Vocalists do you want to join. Team arianna right. So she's like. Can you sound more. Like a hollywood boulevard marilyn monroe impersonation but also can we just stop legitimising the voice guys i know this is a very elementary gripe about the show give me one star. Just give me one star. I can't say winners of the voice without sounding like i'm making fun of the show like cassidy pope. That's not a joke. I made up. It's real the voices just a show where actual famous musicians just hang out. I guess listen to some regular people saying and then debuted their own new songs and go about their day right and get free starbucks. Like that's part of the show was on the voice. And i guess it was just so he could go through his space man release rollout and now he's done. Yeah arianna is here. I will actually say keep it to some of the responses. I was already seeing people being like. Grow your like famous and have like number one singles and suffering now like you should not be slipping into this part of your career being on the voice. But you know. I think that like all that shit out the window and you know. I think the whole thing of like people being like famous to do this sort of thing isn't really thing that sort of exists. Also she's going and she's having fun led to do the fucking voice you also. She can't tour right now. So like however long. It's easy to do and i'm i'm shocked at her actually being willing to give us as much visibility of herself. I've never seen arianna guerande dead on first of all and speaking for longer than like ten seconds so i just don't know how how she's going to be able to judge monologue not that she's not capable of it. Listen some of us watched salmon care so it's on your home emmy award winning. How could you not. She did what she had to do. What is your keep at this week. Mike keep it goes to this. Tick tock girl. Addison rae food first of all. I was kind of on board. Could addison rae because he dropped this song. Her debut single obsessed. And the song itself is bob and i love the lyrics. Its leeo anthem okay. You say you're obsessed with me. I said me too. I'm obsessed with me. E to those are lyrics But then it's the presentation. I saw the music video and i don't know who taught this dance. I don't think anyone did a lot of flailing and it's weird. That like charlie has been tweeting about how much she loves as ran. Like she's a pop star at the moment. And you know. I can never tell if it's a performance where charlie she actually thinks they're talented or if she's just along for the ride And but charlie's early too. So i get. I get the chaos right But that just reminds me of the fact that like a week ago. I watched a charlie asks concert that she did on band town and when she did you could tell when someone who's not like a dancer right in the in the sense of like megan thee stallion's attack. You know what it's like. But like charlie isn't even giving you do a leap. She's a person like when the music takes over. That's actual dancing dancing because the music is you're feeling it. Connie you're having fun on the flip side as ray is somehow less than duleep as intermediate dancing. And so this is sort of like. You're trying to give me like polish star dancing but you don't have that in you and then it just seems so rigid and mechanical that it doesn't seem like you enjoy dancing at all. You're just doing it because you have to do it right. So that's the video. And my keep it then is to addison. Raise appearance on the jimmy fallon show this past week where she displays tick tock dances for him it is so surreal and weird and usually when the internet drag something. It is like a lot of anger for no reason but this. I thought i was watching black mirror. Because it's the the dances are to like savage and like cards up but jimmy fallon wasn't going to pay to play those songs while she dances to them. So like there's some weird orchestration like royalty free versions of these songs. So you don't even know what she's actually dancing to. Here's just seeing the names of the songs she's not going full out. It's so weird. He's standing behind her holding signs of the song. Titles bob and his head. And i'm like he must hate himself in this momentum and i think he's lost all self love years and years of four man. You can't love yourself if your best friends. Justin timberlake but even worse it's like she's displaying on. These tiktok dances that were created by like black and brown kids on the internet. You know on tiktok and it really just felt like you were watching. Bring it on cute little white girl out there who is famous take talk and just has one single and already. She's getting an immense rollout of like a jimmy fallon appearance and also a whole segment devoted to her. But she's doing it by using dances that other people have done and not the fact that they created the dances but the fact that she can't even convincingly pull them off and she's giving us nothing. Yeah it's go girl. Give us nothing. You love your lack of energy. They're side by sides of her dancing and other people dancing to them on tiktok the creators. the difference is well tina. Turner and ann margaret the outfit. She's wearing to dislike. No stylus something. Right off in ancient mannequin like i'm so sorry being so many this twenty year old girl. But i need more from you. If you're going to be no ola. Okay i have never seen a more obvious person. Feel like they're an industry plant. It's like you're famous on tiktok and you got. The one song is a cute song. But how about you drop a bunch of other songs. And let people find out who addison. Rae is right the going from this. One song is out to immediately on fallon on doing this. It seems like someone is really pushing hard for this. Someone is working real hard for what thereafter and. It's not addison though because she's not working hard. I think it's a bit that would have worked if she could have committed to the seriousness of the dancing but as such watching it it looks half fast and like she's basking in the half acid to it just didn't work on any level it unfortunately is impossible to watch. She's casually doing it for her parents. Yeah right it's like. Oh yeah this is the tiktok dads and you're doing it for your parents at home or you're visiting them. You're not even going full out like you would be on tiktok to get actual people to watch it. It's just so. Surreal and yeah not on board for ms grey. I do like the song though. Also no i. I do think more songs should be filled with pop lyrics. That would all be housewives. Taglines like that. That's a good songwriting goal. Charlie booth ryan chatter. Keep this in mind. Ryan tetter who always comments on charlie poops instagram and somehow the commerce are more thirstier than the ones i put. I was gonna say you're at nine and a half on first level there right but riots headers. I'll be like damn boy. You look ripped love to see when you just get out the steam room right better this lurking outside the equinoxes way anyway. That's my actual number one white boy from white boy summer. We'd better get that album. I'm so excited for it. I'm very excited for it. So that's our episode. Shout out to everybody. I had fun. Naomi and meghan. 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"Trust Issues" (with Julissa Arce)

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1:15:34 hr | 2 years ago

"Trust Issues" (with Julissa Arce)

"Hello and welcome to hysteria. I'm Erin Ryan this week Eliza master, Monaco. And I talk news why the president just got accused of sexual misconduct again. And the nation has responded with shrug and what to do about the latest round of horrors, from the US Mexico border. Then do Lisa ARCE joins Meghan gaily, and grace part in studio to talk about trust in people, and institutions, and in face tune last, but not least the hills will die on. Before we get started today, a little bit of housekeeping, if you want to submit a hill to die on, you can record a thirty second voice memo on your phone, and send it to hysteria crooked dot com. That is also where we get our correspondents. But I'm not the only one who checks that Email address. Caroline also checks it. So send love letters for hate mail to our personal accounts. Please second. I'm feeling very, very haughty about this because I've been accused of lying about merged by various online people. It's here merchants here for hysteria. There are a couple of t shirt options, including muscle tank, which I personally requested their pins tote bags and there's more to come so you can check it out it as at store dot crooked dot com and trying a new thing where I give a shout out to a special group of listeners this week. I want to give a shout out to our listeners who are immigrants. We see you, and we appreciate you. Now, let's get to the show. Hello. Hello, happy debate day. Happy debate dates Huma lady, are you prepared are your loins girded? You know it's funny. It's not until nine o'clock here and my hubs, and I were talking about it this morning. I was like, what should be have for dinner? And he's like, what does it matter? The debate will be on two hours after dinner. We tonight at seven pm that are you saying that feel that feels like an old time to eat dinner? I feel like I was going to be honest with anyone who listens to us. Okay. Normally eat dinner between six and seven because. Hi, I'm diehard on weight. Watchers and just the best way for me to stick my. Oh, interesting. Okay. Well, then I guess I'm the Essel in the exchange will your forty three I will probably will be calling you when I'm forty three Eliza considering how calling this week? You know what that's all here for each other. Yes, it's true. It's true. Bullets get into the news before we get into. Yeah. I just read a Jason chafe. It's quote this morning because he was like, mouthing off about the US women's soccer team. And I, I recall like an Atlantic profile when he said he made that noise in response to the idea of Hillary Clinton presidency. So that is the word of the day. I, let's get into the gene Carroll story, which buried basically since it broke last week. Gene Carroll is an L advice columnist and she has been active in New York media for a very long time. And she said that in the mid nineteen nineties, President Trump raped her in Bergdorf Goodman, dressing room. She described it very. She's just grabbed it with a lot of detail to CNN, and it's, it's really hard to listen to because it sounds like it was a violent attack. She's a twenty second person to accuse the president of sexual assault or misconduct and the second to publicly accused him of rape. And it didn't make the front page of the Saturday. The New York Times, the president getting credibly accused of rape by prominent New York City columnist. It didn't make the front page of the Wall Street Journal did make the front page of the LA times, or the Chicago Tribune, the post put it on a one but didn't lead with it. So listen. What do you think is going on here? Well, also, let us not forget, it was not on any of the Sunday shows except AM with joy Reid great. Right. I've given this a lot of thought because we've talked about it, you know, for the past couple of days and one, you know, all of these, you know, even the newspapers and not making the front page. All those stories posted online. Right. And they're just I feel like that aside, from the women who are really key. Keeping track. It's just like not getting the clicks. So it doesn't get promoted. So it doesn't show up at the top of the feed. And so people aren't talking about it. And I feel like MRs sort of I mean, not the most empathetic thing to say, but I feel like people look at aging and say, she looks okay. She must be okay. So instead of focusing on this, we're going to focus on the devastation, that's happening at the border. Do you know what I mean? Right. And I think that I think that, that in the world of Trump, there's just so fucking much. And I also think it's not surprising people report on surprising news and this isn't surprising because it's number twenty two. That doesn't make it less repulsive or wrong or criminal. But I think that it's like people just aren't fucking surprised by it. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. I think that, that's a kind of a generous read on the media, though. Because you're right. We have we do have limited bandwith to. Process, you know, everything all at once it's impossible for us to put every important news story in the one of our hearts, but at the same time, the president was accused of rape by a woman who has no reason to lie. And by coming forward with this story is only subjecting herself to public scrutiny and ruin and I think that the what's happening at the border. I don't think it's an either or thing. I think it's, it's I think that maybe people justify it by saying that there's a lot of other stuff going on. That is maybe objectively in the in the whole scheme of things. More important than this. But this is pretty fucking important. What is this is really important there I feel like people are being like, we know this is important, but people who don't wanna talk about this for whom. It doesn't do any good. Let's say they're like, right. But the borders catastrophic, yeah, it's a wrong, it shouldn't be on a grade. But I feel like people are putting news on a on a continuum, right? And that's sort of what you have to do in order to survive. Live in this like see of mud that we're in right now. I, I also thinking as I was reading about this, and I was kind of puzzled by the lack of coverage, and then the coverage being about the lack of coverage which is strange folding of reality that it happens in media, one of the things that I was thinking was that, you know, this story was told in conjunction with the release of a book, and I wonder if people are less sympathetic to a woman telling her story, if she stands to profit from it in any way, which is a fucked up thing. But I, I wonder if that is, is something that's may be happening in conversations and edit toil rooms, and at pitch meetings. I think that's I think that's possible. You know, I mean like the she because something that I'd heard from people, and you never have a good answer for because like I mean, we'll one stipulate women don't really fucking lie about rape, you know, but they're like, well, she had a book, why if this was such a existential threat to the. United states. Why didn't she as such a credible person come at not come out with this when it could have stopped him from being president? Yeah. No. That's, that's it's not even like it's not even necessarily the book aspect. I do think that, that's a part of it. But a lot of people were like, well, if he actually fucking raped her in widened, she say something, you know, three years ago right at point. Right. And we never know because we'll one why would people set themselves up, like, you know, my answer to the question was, there was so much shit stacked against him including the pussy grab tape that if you are someone who'd been attacked, you would assume that, that would be enough to do them in, you wouldn't have to put yourself forward to be torn apart and ripped apart as they did with Christine, Blasi Ford, you know? Yeah. And so, I think that, that, that was sort of my counterpoint is that like they had him on tape, and he would bright grab pussy. Nobody would nobody. He would win what's going to win over thought he would win. Nobody in the right mind would put themselves in the position of being subject to that scrutiny, if they didn't think it was necessary for the good of the country, you know. And right. I also think that your, your point about the naysayers saying will like widened. She talk about this win it right before the election. Why didn't you talk about this at the right time? That is always a an objection that comes up when there's a public accusation of sexual misconduct. That makes people uncomfortable. Did she do it? Did you report it at the right time? What was her relationship with the person does she wear? She was she pretty enough because Donald Trump went asked about this accusation said that t started off his answer by saying, first of all, she's not my type, but, like, what who is your rape in type Mr President, what would have fucking weird thing to say? And second of all it didn't happen. That's what he said. And then, and then there is a photo. He also said that he had never met her. And there's a photo of the photo to prove otherwise I mean liar, lies more tonight at ten. But, but there's did you hear he's on his way to the G twenty and he plans on live, tweeting his bait whom I. What are you who are so tired of having a president who treats America like a show that he's running, and that every month is sweeps month? I am so tired of it, but we have to move on, because I guess there's another, there's another story and this one is, is really rough yesterday on social media. There is a photo posted that was did you see the photo Willis? Yeah, I did. It was a really it was bleak photo. It was a photo of a father and daughter who had drowned trying to cross the Rio Grande. And they, they were they were dead. And it was really, really upsetting. But a lot of people were sharing it. And a lot of people were saying that it sort of drives home the seriousness of the migrant rises. But that's only one aspect of what's going on right now. Eliza what where are you with following the migrant story? And what is what are your thoughts on what's happening? So I mean you know, I've I've kept up as much as I can. Can because it is it is. I think that anyone who follows the news has a pretty good idea of what's happening. Right. But the stories of late, I mean, kids without food taught like like, like, you know, kindergartners core taking care of small, children, that were separated, the thousands of children that were documented as unaccompanied, who were in fact, not fucking unaccompanied. Yeah. They're, they're separated them from their families. Still despite the fact that they said that the family separation policy ended a year ago, which I was thinking about this yesterday. Elissa I was thinking about how they were like, okay, so extensively the family separation policy existed because it was supposed to be, and I'm just kind of trying to paraphrase the fuck it up worm, logic of Stephen Miller, but a stencil a policy like that would be public, and as it was known publicly would serve as a public deterrent to people coming to the states. Like it would be something. We'd be hey look what we're. We're doing this awful thing if you come here might happen to you, you'd better, not do it. So like it's public nece was part of the plan, but they were doing it in secret. So it makes me feel like they're separating families like for the love of the game, which is so much more fucked up than I thought that the policy could possibly be, though, to overlook the fact that they said they were going to separate families that these people like are fleeing such trauma. They're coming anyway. And like the that's not part of the calculus in figuring out what to do here, right there. Fleeing trauma, that in a lot of cases US foreign policy was instrumental in start Iraq. So I mean, for example, I have family members from hundred from Hundres my sister is married to a man, whose hundred and his family has to deal with a lot of the issues that we talk about hundreds is not safe right now and his mother's the states, and it's, it's a it's a daily, it's something that weighs on them daily. And it's something that they're genuinely terrified to return to, and I just I don't understand. I don't understand the people making the policies around this, but especially don't understand the people on the ground in forcing them. Like also can we talk about that cut burger who stood before the judges, and explained that people in detention children, specifically a basic need is not stoped toothbrush toothpaste? Well, first of all, was I take issue with your use of the word count burger. She's a cut lettuce wrap at best, she's not really does not have the beauty of powder. She's. Punt Pat Tae, but, like bad petty. She's con spam. God Alpo terrible, the worst the worst person. And I and I know that the word is gendered. I don't think it's gendered. I think everybody can be stable, even themselves. Yeah, but I yes I thought it was it was really really stunning to watch that woman's testimony. How did you feel watching it? I, I was I was. I couldn't believe it. I, I actually rewound it, you know, because I'm so skilled at my DR, and I was watching it, and I was like, she didn't, she couldn't I had to make it louder the judge was like, wait. Are you telling me he was giving her a chance to realize that she was that her soul had been burned and turned into the new smokey is of the new press secretary coming to the White House, and she just wouldn't do it. But it's also pretty unbelievable that it took those that took in the course of this week. It took that woman arguing with judges about how, you know, human basic needs are not being. Clean being able to brush your teeth have water and food and the photo of the father and his baby who was still in her diapers, you know, face down in the water having drowned to to get congress to act. Well, let's talk about action Eliza because, yes, really easy to hear about this, and, you know, the, the amount of cruelty that it takes for people to treat other human beings. This way, much less children. It makes me feel a little bit helpless, sometimes. But there, but there are things to help. First of all, our favorite thing to say is call you Representative onerous, call congress. Call your mayor call your local reps. Tell them you want ice rates to be called off. Tell them you want detention centers to be improved. Use your telephone millennials, it sucks. But this is for a good cause. I swear to God if you pick up your phone, you'll feel good about making the call. You can also report and document raids and arrests you can donate to humanitarian efforts like United, we dream the ACLU. My nephew Joel who is turning three today. Got a donation made in his honor to racist, Texas. Tremendous. I also I also got him like toys and stuff like so he would because that's, that's a mean present to give a three year old if that's all you a three year old. But, you know, you can donate to raise his Texas their organizations that provide legal aid. You can also assist paling paying bail for immigrants who've been separate really cleanliest one. It can cost anywhere from fifteen hundred to eight thousand five hundred dollars but you can donate to bail fund in your city through the national bail fund network, and we'll put this in the show notes. Eliza what are you going to do? Well, I'm very interested in the national bail fund network and I'm also going to I mean I live in New York City, and, you know, build Blasios who takes the stage tonight at the debate. So it's been so weird way. It's so weird. He's been but he has been outspoken about protecting immigrants in New York. And so I really do think the most important thing, people, not most important, one of very, a big basket of important, things people can do is call on their mayors to speak. Get out and say that they're not going to be a part of this sham. The mayor of Chicago did, and some other cities saying that they are going to protect their population. So, you know, that's something that on a very local level is very impactful. Okay. So it's pretty shitty out there, but there's stuff that we can do. And I think the fact that this is a widely known story. And it's generated mass outrage as it well should have is a sign that we are not a country full of total fucking monsters. But we have enough fucking monsters in the White House to sort of run the country so win lose. I guess sweep on live in America. Keep on living. Okay. Let's say it was great to talk to you. We'll talk again next week. Bye bye. Stick around. There's more hysteria after the break. This up hysteria is brought to you by door. Dash, what's the one dish from your favorite restaurant that you can never recreate at home had time? I tried. I tried really I tried. It was bad. Get made fun. It was bad tie, and I get made fun of it every week for trying for me. It's like a good street taco. 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Let me introduce our panel this week first off, we have writer comedian. And I don't know what else to say. Wedding planner. Yeah. My wedding planner would take offense to that planned to have a wedding planner. That's a plan. I think you. We went to Palm Springs us weekend. I got to try cake, and that wasn't the most fun. We're getting a fun Feddie cake, and I didn't even know that was an option. Oh my God. High end not even like a make your grandma's making it fun Feddie like a woman in a store is making it is it pronounced feet the I think she did say like confetti like she did have a different name for what's on the box in the grocery store, but we were like it's petty. Oh my God. That's on. So sounds so good say, I want cake. No next up. We have writer, activist actress grace par grace. I also want some fun Feddie cakes Ari. No, it's great. I Rueda talk about cake and not bring cake. I think it is Meghan. That's okay next time. Hi guys, what the fuck is up. This aggressive. Oh, it's, it's an aggressive kind of morning kinda is man. There's so much going. There's two debates coming up to debate, but we don't have a chance to people are going to listen to this after the first debate. That's right. And Muller's testifying seventeen he's testifying on a day that I am going to be joining the hosts pod save America stage in Denver. Colorado be a fun day for everybody. Yes. Could it be a long day? Finally, I am delighted to welcome to hysteria for the first time crooked media contributor and national bestselling author. Julissa. Arce. Woo. Put him the house yet. How are you? I'm great. We were just talking about how the first time I met, you, you had just gotten engaged. And now you're now, you're like an expert on having wedding. Yeah, I really am I had to weddings. Oh, yeah. One of them was to make up for the fact that I didn't have Kingston yet. And the second one was just, you know the wedding the wedding. I don't either. And I always feel like I'm making up for it. Yeah. Every birthday Kington yet a themed birthdays. I, I guess if I have a wedding I'm going to have to just toss an extra one in there. Yeah. You're going to have to have some. I had like pink everything and my first wedding hours. And while my dress was white because. Yeah, you know, tradition tradition. Sure, I wanted to of mariachis bond. Yeah. See no. Whole thing I've ever heard along Instagram. And I was impressed. Thank you. I, I am. I am very impressive. My wedding to match my wedding set to match. Well, I guess since last time we were all in the studio a little bit as happened in my life. Yes. Yeah. I feel like I feel like you know that in the last episode of game of thrones when deniro's gets killed by John snow, and then the next scene is it's like, well a lot happened in these last three weeks. They don't show what happened. And it's like, oh my God, where's that up Assode that? That is that I'm not the only one that's still obsessed with the ending of game. With racism. Talking about so. But I feel like that that's me in. It's like I'm coming back, and I'm like, well, lots of stuff happened to me. I'm I got engaged. I was in Italy. Josh Josh, John as me. Yeah. Okay. His name. Right. Yeah. I do. I mean, I feel like some listeners, even have gone so far. So follow him and on Instagram. He appreciates that. So, but yeah, we got engaged in Italy. It was a complete surprise. I had no idea. It was coming my response to it was, what are you doing? What are you doing? Are you joking right now? Are you joking? And then I realized that he was serious because what kind of an asshole would joke around. I, I know a couple. Rather jokes around about proposing in front of our entire family. And then just segue into asking about the Pacers free agency. Ooh. This was years ago, and they're married and their second child on the way. Okay. Wow around while love is powerful. You can overcome that. Powerful thing but yeah, it was. It was like it was great. It was perfect. And I'm super happy and I'm going to slowly go insane over the next few months planning my wedding. I'm going to be consulting, the two other people here who are either in the process of planning wedding, or have had to fucking successful wedding. I'll give you all my notes. I, I will. I'm going to walk over to your house, we live so close to each other to walk over to your house, and I'm going to bang on your window in the middle of the night, and be like I need help. I'll give you one tip. Now, if I may, okay, you've got to go to the district flour the flour district in downtown LA. Okay. And the flowers will be like ten times cheaper than anywhere else. And you just take them what you want. You show him a picture, and they make them for you at, like one tenth of the price. Well, take you to Mike. Okay. Oh my gosh. Are to sell go to Palm Springs and find a very, very chic older gay man, and pay ten times going to have him. Hold your hand and say you are amazing. No, the guy down lay. He will tell you a muni. When you texted the group's read like picture of the ring, I responded back hysteria just got twice as knowing. Two people planning weddings I keeping like I'm just a really bad person to have brunch with right now. Yeah, I saw about me. I mean, I hope I don't go slowly insane but we'll see. I've seen really powerful women taken down. But what are you most concerned about the planning the actual wedding? I think that a lot of people that I've talked to a lot of my friends who had weddings, always say that costs way, more than you think it's the cost, and I think that there's a there's going to be tension between the sort of party that we wanna throw for our friends and family and the sort of party that is not crazy to throw because it's like we want to do other stuff. We wanna buy a house. You know, we want to go on vacation. And it's I think the sticker shock is going to be the hardest aspect of it also also like picking date that satisfies everybody. Well, I'll we'll get into it. I guess for the next who's who pays for these things, like I thrilled the brothers they've all gotten married, and I feel like it's the wife's. Like the wife's parents pay for very happy to finding okay? Yes. I just so we had to have a very honest conversation and my I was like bliss. And this is what I told the planner I wanted to spend, and my dad goes, no, I was planning to spend half of that. And I go once you meet me in the middle of what I wanted to spend what you wanted to spend, which is an ago, sheeting tactic, I learned from him, so kind of bit him in the ass. And then, so my parents are paying for big chunk, and then CJ, and I are covering the rest, which I think, is a pretty modern way to do it, right. Yeah. I hope I think we're just paying for it. Yeah. Hernandez, pretty much pay for his parents helped a lot. And they took off a lot of things off our hands and they paid a wedding with, like non monetary. No. I mean with both. Okay. Yeah. And then the wedding in Mexico, we had people who helped, but the majority of it would say, like eighty percent of the wedding for Nando, and I paid for it. Okay. We could probably have a whole show on this, and we will bring me back. I it is in the duck. We have a master doc of topics. We're gonna talk about which brings me to today's topic, which do we selected and that topic is trust. So because you're the guest, I'm gonna start with you. When you think about the concept of trust what comes to mind. You know, I think that I think that trust is something that's a built over time. When people show you who the are, who they are. You should believe them, but I also think that trust is a form of self love something that you do because otherwise it would drive you crazy. Live your life, never trusting anyone that's only hurting you also view. Trust us something that is about self love. That's really interesting. But how do you how do you differentiate between? Some somebody who is worth your trust. And somebody who is going to exploit your trust, which I think, is the million dollar question. Yeah. Well, listen, I am a formally documented women of color, and trust was not something that was in my DNA. It's something that I had to work on and go to their before, and like learn to trust, because I do think that, that line is a really fine line of one do trust someone. And when do you protect yourself from something that some something that someone might do to you? Right. But I really think is sort of, like trial and error, and I don't think that there is any right formula for how to Tel Aviv. Entrust someone or not trust them one. Unfortunately, I think it's something that you just have to do by trial and error, and you learn you learn to, like, pick up signals you learn how to let things go that otherwise might lead you. Like not trust someone that you should trust. Because you're just like on high alert all the time, you know, so it is a fine line, and it's it is a million dollar question that I don't have the answer. But we were going to solve it always on this show is we solve things grace, how important to you is is trust in building relationships. You know, I was thinking about what my relationship was to trust when, when we started talking about this topic via Email. And I remember that up until just like a couple years ago, I used to say this phrase all the time, and, like, really brash kinda masculine way, which is if a person doesn't drink. I don't trust them and, and that's been ingrained in my brain for so long. And I think it comes from being as a comedy writer like it's very hyper masculine industry. I grew up with data and brothers and mom who liked drink a lot. It's, it's a big part of my culture, and I really used to feel that alcohol was a way to get to know somebody, and if you get to know somebody with people's guards down. That's the way that you can learn to trust somebody now as time has gone on ESPN. In the last like, you know, nine months to years since a base since I stopped drinking, that's completely shifted. And that's been the biggest shift in my relationship with trust that it used to be where, like, if I could not get blackout with somebody, I would always be a little bit hesitant. And now it's more like if I can get if you're getting blackout, maybe I shouldn't trust. And yeah, and I don't know. I do think it's a hyper masculine reaction to trust like it comes from an old school madman style. Like we need to make asses of ourselves together. So we have, like counter compromise money, other. Yes, exactly. Yeah. That's really interesting. I mean that sort of reminded me of kind of what brings college prince together, and what rings people together in different organizations like in Greeks, there's, like a mutual, like mutual, humiliation leads stab -solutely Meghan. Did you find that that happened for you as a person living in Greek life time about your greatest? Well, in, like a an sweeter way to paint. And I do think there is something to be said. No. I'm still a drinker obviously as just like people's wall so doubt. Yeah. So you do kind of want to be let in and that doesn't always have to be drinking. It can just be I think sometimes when women are just you're like on a road trip with one other person. And you're kind of locked in a place together that can be a good way to have walls come down. But there are people in my life, who I've never seen them be vulnerable, and I do have probably a harder time trusting them and that's not specific to drinking. But I mean, I've already sisters that I blacked out in front of that. I definitely don't trust. Mutually with, you know, the sort of thing is interesting and other element of this, that I was thinking is how my relationship with trust is different with men from women, and I went, I didn't have a short experience, but I did go to Catholic school growing up, and Verdy basically sorority, but like a long period of time, and I feel like this blanket statement, let's unpack this, this is my might be totally wrong here. But I think I might actually have more of a problem trusting women than do men, and I don't. And that's strange because I do I feel so you know, very fiercely feminist and delighted with my female, friendships and family members. But I, I don't know maybe just past experience having been in the kind of Hornets nest of being around women for so long, that I'm a little more skeptical, or that, I understand more nuances, there by actually think there's stereotypes to be like, don't trust other women because like they may back stab you or they may actually be trying to like. Get at a man, but then, you know, the same way of thinking goes for, like, don't trust men because they're trying to sleep with you. And like a lot of it is, like, that's a huge giant thing. But I do think as women were sometimes taught to not trust other and again, I grew up with real brothers. I grew up with like men than I did trust. I grew up understanding that, that men are not to be feared in every situation. So I grew up, I grew up like not trusting just people in general because I think that one of one of the aspects of trust, sometimes people view, that if I can tell you, my deepest darkest secrets that means I trust you raid. And if you if I tell you everything about me, and you don't reciprocate that back, then I don't know that I trust you because now you knew all these things about me, and I don't know anything. Form of rail. But, you know, for me like growing up on documented. It was really hard to tell my secrets to people, right? Like I couldn't tell my closest friends like my best friend in the whole wide. They didn't know didn't know that I was undocumented. Right. Like people, I dated, I would never tell them that I was undocumented. And so, and so I do think that there was this aspect of, I think, maybe some of my friends thinking that I didn't trust them because I wasn't divulging the same kind of information. They were telling me and so, and it wasn't because I didn't trust them is just, you know, I grew up with my mom always telling me the anatomy. Audience. Tell anyone, right. And, and so it took a lot to for me to explain to my friends or try to form close relationships with people without telling them all these very personal things about meaning when was the first time that you told someone that you were dating, did you wait until after you had gotten the process of becoming citizens started or did you do when you're still undocumented? Well, I'll tell you two stories, stories, one again like my mom was always, like, don't tell anyone don't tell anyone. And I, I learned I was trained to lie to a boyfriend before I ever even had a boyfriend. Right. Like you do not tell this thing to anyone, and I remember like in high school, high school party with this guy was dating and the cop showed up, and I just like took running into the backyard, like jumped the fence. He's like chasing after me. Like, why are you so freaked out? You know, like the worst they can happen is we get a ticket and to me. Me, it was like no. Like if I get caught I can get deported. Yeah. I couldn't tell him that. So then he just thought it was over reacting. Right. And of course, like, you know, men always think not always a lot of men women overreact. And so I just let him think I'm overreacting, right? Then in college I, I was like, maybe my mom is wrong. He knew I've been dating this guy for like two years. And like he just drove me thirty minutes to get dock os. And, and he's he he has his cute set is not trust them. You know, like I surely can trust this person. So I told him I don't have papers. What came out of my mouth, and then we talked for a long time, he held my hand, his very sweet. And he says, you know, I you're not alone anymore, and it was such a big sense of relief. Like, oh, Finally, I trust them one and the keep the secret in and then couple years later, we moved to New York. And I find out he's cheating on me. Yeah. So, you know, like any woman might react like I was like, I'm going to show him the true meaning of woman scorned, you know, like so angry and I called him and I found the woman's phone number on a suitcase in his apartment dumb ass. And so I called him and I'm like, I'm going to call her issue. And then he said the one thing I could never imagine anyone saying he said, if you call her I will call. Oh my God. Which was I s was the equivalent of ice now. God fucking off. Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm still like I told his story, my heart is starting to race again, you know, telling all these years later, and, and you better believe that I did not tell anyone else about being undocumented for the longest time, because my mom's voice was in my head being like I told you not to tell anyone and you know, I could just hear my mom's voice him I hadn't. So of course, like fucked me up for a long time. You know, and it's taken a long time to I, I was I was married before. And that's actually how I became a citizen. It was because my ex husband is a US. So obviously I opened up again and trusted again. And, and my trust was met with the right. It was it was it was cared for, and now a marriage wonderful, wonderful man, who I trust. And I love and I you know, he knows everything about me, but it took time to recover from that. And I think when you go through that it takes time to. Cover, and trust people again, and let people into your life again. This is probably cliche. But like when you when you're trust is broken by someone you love. It's even more devastating to like have someone. That was your partner us something against you. When they actually did something wrong, right? You had not done anything. It was like a double whammy, right? Because ones like you betrayed my trust of just like my love trust for you. And you're like cheating on me. But then on top of that, you willing to destroy my life. Can we destroy his? Yeah. What's his name? No. We'll talk harm has gotten him in some way. I don't think I think he's I think he's rich writing with kids. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Nobody ever said is rich married and has kids. Subject of all great works of American literature. I'm rich I'm married. I have kids and I'm set, John Cheever sorts short story is he is. Let's let's, let's put it onto university is sad. Just human now. I don't I don't wish bad. I really don't know because. I think that's part of self. Love is to like forgive and move on. And, you know, you, you can't it it's too much to carry with you whole life. Yeah. Got a letter this Christ like, overcoming that is that's herculean. It really is. It really is what you want, like four more wedding. They'll just be kids in Europe. Grace. So you meet people that you trust. You don't trust. Yeah. But sometimes you have to have people that you don't trust in your life because you work for them or you work with them a hem, ladies because you work for them you work with them. You just you can't alienate them, but you don't trust them. So how do you deal with a I in that you don't trust so people that I don't trust who I have to interact with exclusively on social media, thankfully, you can block people. You can meet them without them knowing this is something that I feel like there's a lot of listeners out there who experience where it's like I don't trust this person. I have to see them every day or I'm working on this project with them and a half to follow them so that they, there's just like appearance that you put on thankfully, those methods exist, because there was a time, where that wasn't really couldn't meet people couldn't really mute people. And so these people that you really did not do not believe in who you, you would not put an ounce of faith in. We're just in your face constantly. That's one method, I think, but as far as real life goes, I mean. A lot of it is having a trusted confidante who you can talk to about these feelings of distrust, and then move on, because the problem is, if you bought things in jalousie, you spoke to this in a really way, if you bottled things up it can, it can really fuck you up, there has to be some method of expressing why it is that you feel a lack of trust to somebody, but the difficult thing is restraining yourself from letting that get out in a way that's unproductive to that person. So I find that like this is like we've had some conversations about gossip in the past and how sometimes it's like gossip feel so terrible. But sometimes it's cathartic and sometimes you have to there's a thin line between. What what's defined gossip? And what's something that, that, that is a method of catharsis to allow you to effective tools to affectively handle a lack of trust in one's life, and I find that just like shitting on people to nihil is the way that, that I. Really do. Yeah. I mean, that's a it's so awkward though, if you have somebody in your life that you just like, don't I can't hide my feelings toward people like and sometimes when I'm around people in public, I can keep up a facade of like, I'm, I'm warm. I'm open, I'm happy. But when I run out of energy because I don't think I'm naturally, an expert of extrovert at all. I think I'm naturally introverted. I can turn it on, but it just takes a lot out of me. And when I'm in, when I'm at a party, I'm in public, eventually I just run on energy and I just can't pretend anymore. And so that has led me into some awkward situations where it's like if I just don't trust somebody I'll be at a social event with them. And it'll just be like just not even resting bitch face, like active active bitch face. Like, you know, one word answers not wanting to engage them at all. And I, I wish I had a more effective way of dealing with the fact because thing, the thing is people knowing that you don't trust them, doesn't really accomplish anything. It's. Just a it makes you feel like a moment of victory like, you know, like your character on a TV show, and that's like a don't trust. Yeah. Yeah. Right. It's an ad break, but it's like, but it's not really. It's not really productive. So I kind of struggle with being able to balance fact that I definitely don't trust many people, but I also have a very difficult time hiding the fact that I don't trust many people, my distrust of people sort of camouflaged and other way because I'm never like in a group, and I'm like I don't trust her. You know it comes out as like I really shoot shut the fuck up. Never, and I have this conversation, you know, with friends or with CJ. And when you're venting about somebody it like so rarely like you get to the core of it. Like, I think the symptoms are much easier to recognize than like. Oh, actually, this relationship is fundamentally broken because I don't have trust for them because I'm an extremely trusting person. That's just I was raised to trust everybody probably to a fault, and it gives me really, really high expectations. And so when those expectations aren't meant I don't think I have a good job. I don't do a good job of recognizing that it's like broken trust is sort of blame it on other thing. But I do think there's a difference between not liking someone and not trusting someone you know, you can dislike someone instill trust them, and there are people that you can like, you know, think they're fun. And like to soc. Allies with. But they aren't like people in your inner circle that you trust. I do think that there's a difference between. I don't like you and I don't trust you people. I like that. I don't trust. But I don't think there's people I dislike and trust. They are plenty of people that I don't like that. I trust like there's tons of people that I'm like, I would not want to hang out with you. Like, Honora your, you know your. Yeah, exactly. You're honorable. I trust your word trust that. You're going to do what you say you're going to do someone came to mind. I found one finding that those are the only kind of people that I want to hang out with, like. Totally. I would totally have some non alcoholic drinks ending. I winning. Duals. It's too fun for, for Mitt Romney fund fifty cake. It's not a style too. Crazy. Meghan, what you're saying about being raised to trust. People brings up something really interesting. I was thinking about what you said in, in the context of what you said, which is that if you're somebody who's marginalized, you live your entire life, and your default is I can't trust these people in the more marginalized. You are the less, you can the less room, you have to trust institutions or like the police, or teachers, or people that you're supposed to view as authority figure. And I think when you are a white woman or you were raised in a, you know, a no stable community, and you were always the people that the that the that society exists to protect, we have totally different attitudes about what happens. What news stories and what we believe in, we don't believe in I was thinking about this in the context of stories like, what we're seeing at the border right now where we have these stories of children being mistreated on mass, and if you talk to anybody who's ever gone through the immigration system. They're like, oh, yeah. Of course. Yeah, I totally believe that. And I think the further away you get from those marginalized, people, the less credence. They give those accusations. Do not do you know what I'm saying? More the closer, you are fucking rich white guy, the less likely you are to believe that the system is victimizing. People will you had the, you know, you had the you had this group of lawyers recently that went to the border and like Saul these children, like not being base license stations, influence, outbreaks just like the most horrible conditions. And then you have the, the, the former head of I saying, I don't buy that literally, I don't buy that when there are people who are documenting this, there's, like evidence for this, that this is happening. And you're right. You know growing up. I didn't really trust the systems outside of my community. Right. Like I trust it, my community. I trust at my family, and I think because we don't trust the system. We are. It's, it's actually beautiful thing. That happens that you kind of create. Within your community to make things work, right? But yeah, the system's outside in when you have is showing up to people's doors, wearing vast dice. That say police, you know, they don't say is they say police it leads people to believe. Right. Right. And then I was just watching finally watched when they see us and, and to me, while to watch it because I knew that I was going to be heartbroken over like watching this. And for those of you that don't know when they see us as five part series on Netflix. That tells the story of the central park five, the five Latino and block kids who were wrongly accused, and, and imprisoned for raping a white jogger white woman, jogger in central park, and you just watch this and you're like, how can we trust the system when these young people were coerced into admitting crime? They didn't commit. Right. And you watch all these things and yeah, it is really fucking hard to be a person of color in this country right now. And trust the institutions around us. It's hard. Yeah. I mean, and there are instances that come up all the time, like Chicago, the there was like. Secret black site where the police were actually torturing convictions people, and there are, there are places all over the country, where the people who are supposed to be protecting. The public interest are actually only serving the interests of the privilege at the expense of the marginalized, and it's really hard, I think to trust. I think that as a as a white woman, my adulthood, has been a series of realizing that I should not be trusting the institutions that actually benefit the benefit us, which is a which is a kind of tug of war that I think, is a person that's trying to be empathetic citizen that you have to, like overcome at in your brain, like the white women who voted for Trump are trusting the system because the system is supposed to protect them, and it does protect them. But if we're going to be conscientious people we have to disconnect from that. But then you see someone like Dr Ford who is truly, like a beacon of white women, and then you're like, oh, they don't even trust her or the twenty two women who have accused Trump of sex duct. Gracie. Look like you wanted to well, I was just gonna say that. I think I'm thinking back to conversations that I had early on with my parents about a lack of trust in systems and. These conversations constantly led back to either my mom and my dad's saying, well the end of the day, just gotta trust in God and religion tends to be kind of fallback when institutions are failing. I certain communities, of course. I don't know if you guys have an experience with that, too, where it's like, well, of course, you can't trust the systems. But you know you can trust God. He's always there. Jesus that guy. Holy Spirit, there around sure. Bring tongue. Floating and radiating. That's okay. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I, I don't again like I'm so so interested in religion and not to besmirch the religious by any means. But I wonder if the religious feel more of a sense of calm, about a lack of trust and institutions, because there's always that extra layer of trust. They can rely on something that's more imperceptible than those of us, who do have the more like tangible institution think that's only positive of religion. Mine. Yeah. I like being able to trust something bigger is it almost feels like it's a human need like completely like we need food water shelter all those things, and we also have emotional needs and being able to trust is an emotional need, and I think grace might be onto something that when the system completely fails, you your need can be fulfilled by trusting in, in God or in faith faith, I think is, yeah. That's I mean, that's what got me through when, you know, I was undocumented, like I couldn't tell anyone, but like I could sit and pray and, and, and, and my if you have entire journals that are basically, just like letters to God. Really? Oh, yeah. You still how the publish, and that's really interesting. Have you read a couple of my books? Letters God from. Yeah. I know. I should. Yeah. I mean, that's I think what, what, you know, gets a lot of people through. But I do also think that some people can take, like, really far and just be like, I, I texted a few family members and friends like when, when Trump announced the ice rates that didn't end up happening. But imagine like having to Tex people when I texted, my friends and some family members being like there's some ice play some ice rates plan this weekend. Be careful. You know, just like don't go out to stay home. Go to a friend's house like just be careful, right? And one of the responses came back like. Don't worry got got half us. And I'm like, yes, God does have you. But what if God having you is telling you to be careful? Like, what if that's the way of protecting you like somebody telling you to do something tangible? So I wish that, you know, I respect people's faith and probably Pete. Some people have more faith than I do. Which is why they can like kind of make those kinds of blanket. Siemens for me is always like, yes, got helps us. But also. We have to help ourselves. Right. Oh, God way. So, like you need manageable. You know, like prayer the power for some people believe in some people do not. But this idea of, like, we can't what we can't treat them because that's God will take care of right? And God invented medicine of what you believe take the damn medic exists, for reasons, leaving the prayer solves everything is standing in front of a door that says push and being, like I wanna push the store open up the door open. Like you have to actually do something, I think. Yeah, but I wanted to segue really quickly into another aspect of our lives that demands are trust and betrays it constantly, and that's technology and Jewish. So you brought up technology's role in being able to spread the word about, like ice rates, and being able to reach out to members of your community and, and do it really officially and quickly. But in other ways technology has betrayed our trust. Big time in some countries. Facebook, for example, was used to stir up violence, that was targeting. Civic ethnicities and you can't trust what you see on Instagram because everything is fucking face tune, so Meghan. Do find technology trustworthy. And if not how, how do use invent? It's untrustworthiness. I mean, I don't face to. I don't even know how to do it. I actually liked to be like, listen. I'm gonna throw in a picture of me every now and then just so people know I'm being on. Just see that varicose, vein girl. Did not touch this up. I mean, I think you just have shoe and it's so interesting because all have conversations with friends who still live back in the mid west, and they'll send screen shots, if people like, oh my God, you see this, and it's like you, but that's a lie. And so some of that I'm like, have become so cynical, and that I just don't believe. But, like I just try and use it sort of as a mental exercise of like what is real, what is not, and figure it out that way. But I mean I do find it. So fascinating in warfighting that we're constantly, putting our trust into Airbnb hosts and lift drivers. And like these people that we do not know at all. But because we have an app on our phone. That's connected us. We're like sure. I'll live in your house like it's insane to the point where I feel myself being like I wanna be in a hotel. I know I know what happens. A hotel and you check in, and I know that they have to wash the towels and so I felt myself sort of reverting away from these things because I opened up too much, and like, if you had told our grandparents. Okay, you're just gonna live in people's houses that you've found on the internet. What did you just say? Gary, I wasn't Airbnb host. So I gotta you gotta gotta defend the Airbnb. Have you met all better now? You're like the best one out of all of the VM be host other side. When you had to trust people. Exactly. You know, there is there has to be some sort of trust, because I did have to trust people, and I did Airbnb when I lived in New York and had a two bedroom apartment. And so I was still in the apartment dot when these people were. Yeah. And so you do have, you know, I read the reviews, I ask them questions, I stock them Instagram and Facebook and like before accepted anyone into, like, into my, my place, and whenever I did have guests, I would have my boyfriend stay over, because I felt like I had another person there in case something went bad. But, you know, in terms of technology, I do I do think that we are paying a very high price for the technology that we have. And that's our privacy. We are constantly paying for new technology with our privacy. And I do think that at times that is a very high price to pay to be connected to the world around us, right? To, like, I am definitely that person that has a little black tape on pewter. Pewter that. Oh, easy to have a webcam. No. I don't have it. And I'm like, I feel like I look good. Would be like you know, my stall on sending news with my face what I gotta get. Yeah. Definitely have that. Like I I'm the person that changes my passwords few times a year e-e-e-e-no. You gotta take precautions because because it is really easy for technology to be used against us. Right. When the reality is, you know, we should be the ones controlling technology it should be working for us not against us. And so, but there are precautions. You have to take. Right. Because we can't fully trust them. Do you have like an Amazon echo or a dot or something that's supposed to like a digital assistant? Yeah. I have. Oh, Tom is that's so bad. And I have one in every room in our house, my art or they might be able to solve the criminal. That was good. So that's fun good time and make it easy. It's happening. Good show, actually active Alexa, coming into the courts now like this was a few months ago. So I, I didn't follow up. I don't know what they decided, but they were trying to see if it was admissible like what Alexa, had tracked because there had been like? Hose us twenty gallons. And the guy was like, oh, I left it on it was, like, new you cleaned up. Blood. So kind of I mean, it is technology. This is still in the technology realm, which is like scientific technology discoveries. But I never realized how much I trust it my birth control until I got off of birth control. And I'm like, damn like I really put a lot of trust in and listening for Nanto's family. This is not me. We're having baby. My UD expired. And so we have to come out because it expired. But right now, I'm like inbetween and, and I'm like this is weird like this is the first time in my life like an adult that I haven't had birth control a moon goddess, I mean a little bit. But also, I'm like, also, I'm like, I have to just go to sleep with, like, you know, sweat, pants and shirt and sweater and everything else on, because I don't I don't trust that, you know that I'm gonna know what to do without birth control. Right. But it also showed me how much I did trust before because I never thought about it. 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It's the hills, that will die on, let's get started with our listener hill, minus Hillary and the hill, I will, always die on is women who wear their hair down at the gym. As far as I'm concerned if you're doing this, you shouldn't even be at the gym. You cannot do a productive workout with your hair in the way you get sweaty your hers touching your shoulders. It's just gross. And it's gonna get in the way and you're not working hard enough. If your hair's down here, just not you should just own it. When you're at the gym, you're, there speaks comes strong in that is beautiful in what you're who is doing should not matter to you or anyone else. Okay. I am definitely the bitch that goes to soul cycle with my hair down. That's my hair down. My titties out riding on the bike. Help your soul cycle. I mean I just I I what about guys who have long hair who wear their hair down. That happens all the time, the gold's gym in West Hollywood. These guys just like locks and I love it. I say own it. I like it. I don't like it when like soccer players. International soccer players who have long hair. We'll just put a headband on. It's like Alex Morgan would never do that fucking put your hair back in a ponytail man. Where your hair where where you're a member where a man bud wanna wear it lung. And you wanna play soccer put it back in a boating. Sometimes I forget, it's crunchy and I will have to wear my hair down now. But I'll definitely walk in with it flowing. He doesn't like. The people to looks, you know. How about we just like stub judging each other one is your workout. I do feel like it becomes an arms race though. Because it's like at the gym you agree that you're looking less physically attractive. And if somebody's coming in they're all glam doubt. You're like, okay bitch. Now there's. And so, I have to look better. But listen, if you want to compare yourself to me. I mean we're gonna give Barnes you're gonna you're going to up your game. So really hit confidence goals this morning too. Going to do my hill. I is short, but I don't think that you have really if you think you're tough, you're not really tough until you've made a cat swallow a pill that it doesn't want to. Eleanor, my cat has been very sick, which documented on Instagram like in a bunch of fights with people about her being sick, but I have to give her medicine every day. She doesn't like it because cats hate it. When you're trying to save their life because they don't care. So, yeah, the hand that my engagement ring on is all fucked up because she's just not happy with him, but this morning I successfully made her swallow a pill. And I've, you know, I've, I've been an athlete my whole life. I've run a lot. I've done some like pretty big hikes. And that was a huge victory, I think comparable to finishing marathon, I in the Himalayas it felt it felt great. So I think that if you think you're tough you're not really tough until you've made a cat swallow a pill. It doesn't want to swallow. Okay. Megan who look forward to never having to do that. I feel like this is going to be controversial. But I've been seeing people like comment this on photos. And then I've heard people say it in person too. I don't like when people say, a baby is delicious. Oh, yeah. That's kind of weird fair. And I understand being wanna eat. It's cheeks like we've all seen chubby cheek and like I'd bite it. What? Say delicious or like just say like chunk. There's so much like always so cute. It's so squishy delicious like just should be reserved. I just for food. I don't even think it should be in the bedroom like if CJ whatever. Over. Horrified. It's so bizarre. Like just leave it to like Barada. Okay. That's fair. Okay. Grace delicious is a great segue into my hill this week, which is I think that I've uncovered the most on delicious overrated food in our culture. Okay. Go baby corn. Get the. He likes that. The biggest problem bitcoins, the little shits that come from the addle, ninety million people like it, though. I hope to me, it's a flaccid carrot. It's a it's a little lasted little and besmirches the good name of the corn. She's been around for ten thousand years. Thank you indigenous people in Mexico, who first discovered it and its currency and its petroleum. And it's close, and it's all this shit, and baby corn gets to run around talking like it's a corn and it's not baby anything else that's a baby cat, a baby human, a baby carrots. Everyone loves baby care, baby. Corn needs. It needs rebranding needs to get get out of the corn world. How about Korn minus cord ni-nice is fine. What about that scene in big when he eats like a corn on the cob? I love that instead. That one's good. Oh my gosh. My college roommate. One of my college roommates was equally opposed to baby corn. Also a Mexican American released. She was just like fuck baby. She was so aggressively anti baby corn. It tastes like shit. And I love going. It's not good. Besmirching the good name of truly does. Authentic scented. Okay. Julius up bring us home. Okay. So my Hilton today on is cancelling people on the internet is stupid. Blue should not be canceling people on the internet. Unless it's Tommy Laurent because. Because she has shown a pattern of disrespected inappropriate behavior. Yes, that is a from the office memory. Glad office, but canceling people in our, in it's dumb. I was once cancelled Zane that pizza is better than tacos. Which is another hill, owls, Iowa then everybody came out and they're like you're cancels what the nose wheel, cancel you, and I'm like, I, I love pizza. And, you know, people need to give some grace to grow because we're all growing we all make mistakes. We're all just human beings on this earth, trying to make the best that we can out of it. And so let's give people some grace in except county except time because again daily again, she has shown a pattern of disrespected inappropriate behavior. Yes, her, she showed up to one of Megan's comedy shows one time she raised her on what which city. Manhattan beach. She lives down there. Well, she laugh I go and Fox News, sometimes don't cancel me for that. Sometimes I do it and she was coming out of the city when I was coming in. And so I got to hear her mess up like twenty times. And I was like, oh, Hugh, mess up so much. That is actually provide me, some comfort go through that style. Which is always a favorite, but don't cancel people internet, stop it. It's, it's silly show. People grace, let's be better human being. Yeah. I think cancel culture can at its worst. Rob people of growth. Yeah. And it's a kind of cynical thing to do. I think he's worse. Okay. Ladies, Meghan grace, Lisa. 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Shame, Shame, Shame

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Shame, Shame, Shame

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Plus, you'll get free shipping on your first order that's ever lane dot com slash hysteria, ever dot com slash hysteria. Hello and welcome to hysteria. I'm Aaron Ryan this week Michaela Watkins, grace par and Meghan gaily. Join me in studio to talk about shame. Shame. Shame who feels it who doesn't and who could use more of it Elissa master, Monaco, also joins to discuss why we shouldn't totally ignore opportunistic conservative shouting heads even though we would really like to and as always our hills. Hey, everybody, thanks for tuning in. If you have hills to die on that. You'd like to send us you can record a thirty second voice memo on your phone and send it as an E mail to hysteria at crooked dot com. You can also get in touch with us for other reasons that way, but just to let you know, I'm not the only one who checks that Email address so send love notes and hate mail elsewhere or just don't some them at all. Also, if you like what you're hearing, please rate us in review on itunes. It helps people find us, and it helps people know how much you enjoy the show. Hello. Hello, darling. Love our you. Are we doing British accents today because I can't do them? I just felt like I mean, I respect that. But I just wanted to warn you that my British accent is embarrassing. This week has been a real bummer and yesterday, I started I sort of back at like an office job. And so I didn't have to watch the spectacle as an unfolded yesterday. But elicited did you watch Candice inside? You did. Okay. Did. Well, you know, I was thinking yesterday. I saw people talking about her her testimony on Capitol Hill on Twitter and social media, and I just sort of checked out of it because I just couldn't do it yesterday. But I just I felt very stealth for a time when Candice Owens would just was just going to be somebody. I didn't have to learn about until she was selling trinkets on QVC like until we're on the other side of her career. But now, I feel like no I feel like now that she's on Capitol Hill. She somebody who's who's place in the in the pantheon of. We have to break down a little bit. So first of all do you want to explain to our listeners if they don't know who can disowns is. Candice. Oh ns. What is her deal? We'll she's a bad person. He's a bad person. She's a right wing conservative commentator. And I think she's the director of communications for turning point USA wins in the conservative advocacy group. Led by Charlie Kirk Charlie Kirk, I'm concerned about the size of that man's head. But whatever Ben she's done like a lot of you know, she got famous people probably I heard her her name bandied about when Kanye west tweeted that he loves how Candice Owen stinks about a year ago this month, actually, and she's also someone that people might remember is being a real allowed critic of the black lives matter movement saying that it was a bunch of whiny toddlers pretending to be oppressed for attention. So I think that in a nutshell is Candice Owens and most recently. Was cited in the manifesto of the gunman who committed the mass shootings in Christ's church. New Zealand where he said that she was the person who influenced him above all great. So it's a good thing. We have her on Capitol Hill testifying. Thank God yesterday. She was testifying before a panel. And she was talking I believe about it was a panel about it was about hate crimes and violence against targeted groups and people both parties get to select who is on the panel in Republicans picked her which I think gives them a pretty good example of where they're at nowadays, they're having Candice Owens sitting on a panel. That's talking about issues that are, you know, actually real. But she she came on. She was on the panel. The the big moment from yesterday was when my congressman Ted lieu of California played back to Candace Owen. Nhs audio of her kind of defending Hitler a little bit. And her face kind of twisting into I guess, her face did some gymnastics the whole thing was all political theater. It was it was upsetting. It was demoralizing. But I wanted to make our conversation about her bigger than just yesterday. And let's not give her let's not give her any PR. I mean, she doesn't really need it. The thing is like all of the usual. Like all the usual suspects were tweeting about how she just totally like owned the libs yesterday. Like Donald Trump junior tweeted about her Jack probiotic. I'm not gonna learn how to pronounce his last name Jack probiotic was like, oh, she's totally bad ass. Whatever. It's like I think that no matter what she does. She could have she could have been on a congressional panel and thrown up and then fallen over into the vomit and everyone on the right would have been like fuck. Yeah. She showed him, you know. So I've basically how they talk about Donald Trump. Yeah. Exactly. It's like, you know. We were sitting down to to play a game of checkers, and she came up to the game of checkers with a hammer and just like smashed all the checkers people be like she won. She won the game. And it's like, no, she wasn't even that's not what happened. But I wanted to talk about her specifically as an example of a specific type of opportunist that exists in the media ecosystem right now because Candace Owens wasn't always a conservative when she in two thousand fifteen she was a co founder of a website called degree one eighty which is a marketing agency that was for consultation services, basically. And there was a blog that went with that website. And it posted a lot of anti-trump content in the blog. There was some jokes about Donald Trump's penis size. Not flattering jokes about his penis side. Owens also said that tea party Republicans were quote, unquote, bat shit, crazy. She also said the good news is they will eventually die off peacefully in their sleep. We hope and then we can get on with the obvious social change. Needs to happen immediately. This is Candace Owens's words from twenty fifteen. So it seems a little odd to me that she suddenly the poster child of a specific type of conservativism. It seems to me that she was maybe being a bit of an opportunist. And I wanted to talk about where that fits it. Like have you always been in politics for long enough that I'm sure you've seen different generations of opportunists? Does this one seem better or worse than what's come before? It's terrible. I mean, look, you're the thing there's opportunism look like like, I guess like lobbyists build their careers on opera Tunas them. You know, like politicians see like a gap in society. Tell you how they can fill that gap. That's also opportunism. There is a difference between that and what I think has come before us and people becoming hateful as like their opportunity right for the lake or the likes further. It's like it's like you wanna go viral. So you say you like even if you look at someone like God help us like Roseanne Barr who's always been a bit bat shit. But then his gotten like a lot more batch it. That's almost more tolerable because at least she was always kind of bat shit. Right. This is like a woman who sees like fame out of becoming a of a racist. Yeah. The big it, really. Just a hey, I hate below. We're the real racist listened to Candice Owens, Democrats are the real raises. She ended Nash desouza have teamed up to find the real raises. And it's us. I just think you have you ever thought about this? Eliza I've I've thought multiple times like what if I was. I had no shame. The no morals if someone like me were to be like, you know, what I'm going to become a conservative who yells to camera that for for a living. I'm going to go through a fake public change. And I'm going to see where it can take me. Do you think like how big a career? Do you think you have you ever thought about how big a career you could have just were like I'm going to be -servative? Our cats would reject us. We would come home and there'd be cap his on our beds because they'd be like you fake bitches like my cat foods, not that expensive that you need to do this. But no because like I just think that like I mean, I've got IBS it would be triggered. If I became a really. Bad person. I mean, TamI Lauren is sort of is one of those two who seems as though she she's been taking positive reinforcement. She gets for being angrier and further to the right and more like a more of a cartoon, and she's taken that positive reinforcement and folded it back in on herself. And now she's like a parody of a parody of a parody. And well, it's like, do, you know who else is interesting just who came to mind as you were talking? So you know, that congressman Sean Duffy. Oh my God. He's my parents congressman. He's my parents. Rachel campos. He married. Rachel campos. Who is now some also looney conservative commentator. I want to be girl you made out with puck in the real world. Like, I just don't see the evolution yet. She was she's terrible there. They actually live in my family's congressional district. Or that's where they are based in like, it's they're so different than the people that live there normally like Sean Duffy in person is the color of attention. He is. Is so his so tannin his teeth are like West Hollywood white. And he's like so just so not how people look or act in northern Wisconsin. And he just really really really wants to be career politician. Rachel Campos is an interesting one because she's been chasing being a like, I'm just a mom like I'm concerned. Mom, she's been trying to be that on TV for so long. And it hasn't happened for her yet. Well, she was trying to be Elizabeth Hasselbeck. Yes. She was but nobody can be Elizabeth Hasselbeck because for as looney tunes as Elizabeth Hasselbeck was she was spectacularly perfect at it. There's nobody that can defeat her at being lunatic. True. She's the best. She was the Michael Jordan of being crazy high in near. She was she was she was the pioneer for these people. Because where did she came from what survivor? She did. She was a America's sweetheart on survivor, and then show you. Think they get their own. My God have we cracked the code that some of the looniest got their starts in reality in the in the pioneer of reality television. I mean, our president did I don't think you have the president. If he wasn't acting like if he hadn't acted like a boss on TV in a fake show on a fake said. And I think that that's sort of what the the media garbage soup that were cooking. And right now is is one that elevates people that are the craziest in the loudest and the most out there, and those are the people that end up being asked to testify to us. And now, those are the people that Donald Trump is trying to appoint to be the ambassador to the United Nations. And they're the people that Trump is giving high level positions within his government. They have no business doing it. And that's that's why I think it's important for people to pay attention to this thing. Even though there are a million. But I could list off a hundred things right now that are terrible that I would rather do than pay attention to these people, but we just need to just keep tabs on them. I think I don't think you need to watch tummy Lauren yell about the NFL into a camera on Fox News to get what she's doing. But I think if Tommy Lauren gets appointed is is as to testify somewhere gets appointed somewhere or gets elevated to more power than she has. And it's something that we should keep tabs on. Okay. Well, that's all the time. We have for this conversation Lissa as always thank you so much for joining me, and we'll talk next week. Bye. Bye. We have to take a break. But when we come back, more hysteria. Hysteria is brought to you by our friends at swell investing. There is a fundamental issue with investing in America. 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It's like your whole day leads to lunch. It's fun. What we do is. Oh, it's oh, it's fine fun. But I get there being like what's for lunch, and then lunch happens, and you spend the rest of the day trying not to snack or then you're talking about lunch. Lunch was good today. While you're trying to also write a television show that Maria Bamford bit about people in an office. Like, yeah. About quiz knows. That's what I think about every time anybody talks about anything. Second. We have grace par heist needs. No description, everybody. Everybody knows you buy one in the world knows grace par. You're like the beyond say of grace par. Thank you so much. I only recognizing that. Benefit like, it's been a minute. It has been a minute. I'm good God. What have I also actually been working in a room for a pilot the last few weeks as well? And a lot of conversations about lunch. Lot of trying not to snack. I had soup before. I had in and out yesterday. I don't know if you guys had a pre in-and-out suit. Yes. Correct. It okay out soup free meal. Sometimes. Yeah. I like a pre meal that's an app you'd unappetizing. Yeah. Did. Oh, man. I I always order too much food when I order take out because when I order take out I'm at a point where I'm like desperate until order like three it'll be like, I don't I don't know what I'm going to want when the food gets here. So I order like three different things. And I always feel this kind of dovetails to the the topic. We're going to talk about today. I always feel shamed. By by the take-up people because they give me like eight sets of chopsticks, this is enough food for eight people, and I pick it up. And I know I just feel like there's a moment where the delivery person knows that. It's just for me. Yeah. And it's just it feels like an aggressive interaction last. But not least we have Michaela Watkins joining today. Hello. When's the last time you were embarrassed Michaela? Oh, gee. It's a it's a dry daily occurrence. I would say. You know, I can't stand it. I have to be introduced I next time because there's so many things I wanna come. I'm sitting over here being like yes super formula. That's incredibly goes dicussing. Yeah. Oh, dan. It's very, yeah. It's like a great way to go. I always talk about soup for breakfast wire opened a super breakfast part. Yeah. I in Austin, and then I had to apologize. When I saw it today because I was like, I was you know, wild place when I when I saw you in that bathroom, I was all over what happens. Ran into each other in a bathroom in Austin. That's all Austin during south by with thousands of people. We crossed an for. It was just a moment was like Meghan. No, no, no. I was about to go on stage at I felt crazy. With people. I never been on stage with like, oh, let's do improv is if we've been doing a pre oh, dear. That's a lot of stress pressure right there. Let's let's Fain chemistry. Well, talking about executive performance anxiety is I guess it it flows. Well, into what we're talking about today because the reason people get nervous before they perform is because they're afraid that it'll go wrong, and they will feel shame wait and make a bridge. Ryan what? I didn't I didn't jump on the usually leading the same. Yeah. Wow. That's a pretty impressive. I wanted to talk about shame. Because I think a lot of times the way that we talk about it publicly is something that's good or bad rather than just holding it up as something that just sort of is it's a tool that's been used to oppress people. It's a tool that's been used to keep people in line in ways that are actually good. And it's a way that we feel when things happen to us are unexpected. Or when people put things on us that we didn't necessarily want or earn. So it's a personal thing for sure it's also a social thing. And I think that it's something that a lot of people who should feel it don't. So it's this. It's sorta like money like the people who shouldn't have money have like so much money the people who should feel. Shame like don't. Yeah. Feel shame at all. So I'm gonna I'm gonna float this question to the table ones. The first time that somebody tried to shame you I I hate to out my dad for this. But like, I Barbie I was the youngest of three girls and my dad, really. He wanted a boy. And and I'm Michaela I was supposed to be a Michael and Barbies were not allowed in our house. Like, we did not we were not a girly group of girls. We did not have any kind of. There was really no vanity that was even okay in our house. In fact, I don't know if it's a combo of Judaism or just my dad's sort of more austere way of raising us. But it was just you just didn't indulge in fancy fairy tale princesses stuff at all. It was really frowned upon. And of course, I had these old books with these. Snuck into my house. No, I'm kidding contraband. But, but I had you know, books with with, you know, Grimm's fairy tales and all these other things with all these beautiful princesses in it. And of course, I would want to emulate them in the mirror and my dad walked in when I was sort of just up and making faces at myself in the mirror, and I just will never forget the look on his face. It was such disgust. It was like a, and I the only reason I remember that is because in my thirties when I was doing therapy. Relationships were working. I I kinda went back to that memory, and I had a sort of unpack it a little bit. And I think that there was this divide that happened in me where my feminine side. And my my other side, my masculine side, or whatever side were were sort of split in that moment, and I felt like to become sort of romantic or intimate with a guy ahead of kind of put down the jokes and the fun sloppy Michaela and become like, suddenly I had to morph into like. And now I'm sexual being. And with that voice. Take off your pants. And so I didn't know how to like put bring the two together. And it took like a lot of work to finally connect the integrate those two parts of myself again. So yeah, I remember I don't remember like I have a brain that works. Thank goodness where I lot of times like really bad stuff. All but the very worst stuff. I just kind of forget just forget it even happened. The very worst stuff you hold onto as like your little treasure trove of like negativity that every time and the good happens. It's like, but what about this? But I used to. I remember using shame as a weapon when I was a kid, and it's always been something that I've been very tuned to is like my superpower is the ability to make people feel bad about themselves. I felt a lot of internalized. Shame growing up. I was the youngest of boys. So by the time, I was born everyone was so happy that there was a girl. And so I felt very very celebrated but at a pretty young age. I, you know, I started struggling a lot with depression, and you know, just issues that seemed beyond what a young girl should be going through and my brothers sort of like acted out. But we're like really cool, and they went to see this counselor to try and help them sort of like curb their behavioral issues, and then when I came around, and obviously there was something going on with me. My my parents took me to see the same counselor and after two sessions, I remember him like bringing my parents in and being like this. She's like above my pay grade. And it was really so embarrassing. And you know, when you're young. Young. And you're struggling with that you're already ashamed. And then I was like this man who helped to my brothers who are like worse behaved than me can't even deal with me in front of you. I think so. Yeah. I mean, I don't think he said pay grade. But he was like he definitely specifically was like you need to take her to like a specialist that deals in Adelaide girls because she's she's just going through emotional issues that are that are very very intense. And so I shouldn't be required. Traumatizing? I mean, that's the thing that can stick with you. I mean, even to like as we were like looking at this outline in preparing for this. I was like God I feel like everybody was like really really great to me. And it wasn't. I don't fault. This man at all. Because I ended up going to see a woman who truly in so many ways ended up saving my life. And I you know, I credit my mom with a lot of that for being like, no she is like doing. I remember it was expensive. And my dad was like she's like everybody likes her. She's cute whatever she'll get over that. It's okay. And I just I wasn't. I just wasn't getting over it. And I I lost a friend to suicide at a very very young age. And I think that. Definitely sent my parents into like, a we gotta deal with this. This is real. But I remember being like, oh, I felt different than my brothers in so many ways, you know, they played on sports teams together to my brothers and going to the same college where in the same fraternity there two years apart, I'm much younger. And then I was like not only am I like gender and sex different than them. I'm also like weird. I'm weirder than them. Yeah. There's a lot of shame that that surrounds like mental health issues in different parts of the country in different cultures, and in some places, it's really normalized for people to seek help. And in some it's totally not normal. And I think that I don't know a ton about your family, Meghan. But I do know in the mid west. It's like totally not as normal as to light. Yeah. Seek mental help, you know. Luckily, my mom had struggled. I mean, not. Luckily, I'm sad for her. She very much saw immi like, oh, I was not treated and she went on to have. Very traumatic eating disorder and a lot of issues. And so I think she was like if we can nip this in the bud earlier than than I got. And she's also a nurse. She's very into being proactive about your health. And if that had not happened if I did not have that support from her. You know, I I don't think I would be here today. Well, I mean that brings up a really important point. First of all, I'm very glad to hear me because you're a delayed. But the point that you bring up where you know, your mother you talk about your mother's struggling with an eating disorder. And you talk about you being a little girl in not knowing what was wrong with you and being behaving fine. But also having this stuff, I think as women and girls, we direct. Our we direct our problems in word. And that's why a lot of times that we suffer. It's silently. And it's in these quiet like slow death, emotions like shame where it's something that we we direct like our hate in word, and we kind of see it sits inside of us and. It kind of quiets us down and keeps us from being who we should be. And it's I feels like a very female emotion in that in that moment. I wish that they had never brought me to see this, man. You know? I was like, oh, I'm doing such. I was a smile on the outside go home, and and be destroyed on the inside. And so I was like I can do that. I'm like really really good at compartmentalizing. Why don't you just like let me do that? And now as a grownup, I'm I'm so happy that they didn't let that just keep happening. But I felt so embarrassed and shamed. That I had to go to like therapy, which now, you know, is celebrated we live in California. This was the nineties in Indianapolis wasn't. It was you were going dark staircases today's place. Yeah. Grace, what was your experience with shame as a kid will, you know, I actually not not to pivot too much. But I was thinking about how shame affects me to to this day. And now as an adult, it's something that I think I. Count a lot more often than I'm even cognizant of the reason this this something thinking about it because I got shamed. Yesterday in a story that I'll tell you guys about briefly I have been living in this new place with my boyfriend since September. We love it. It's great. It's great. There are a few things here. And there that that we'd been kind of racking up as like, oh, there's a leaky ceiling. We should get fixed. There's a a couple of doors sliding door. That's that's not working. There's a door between two bedrooms that isn't working at cetera. So we we through series of texts we end up texting with our property manager. Who's like I'm gonna come over this afternoon. This yesterday, I'm gonna come over this afternoon. And just tell me everything we'll have a contractor come Saturday. And I was like great. So I have to do this alone. Because I boy friends working not a big deal at all. He and I talk about an advance. And he he tells me like, I'm really sorry. I can't be there. He can't it's work. It's totally understandable. But the reason that I that I came to understand that he was feeling bad about not being there because of what an happening, which is this guy comes up, and I pull out a list. And immediately this guys like, oh, God, you have a list now rolling his eyes at me. I'm so mad already. And and I this grace don't I know, I know, and I'm like, well, you know, I just we really love living here. And I I don't want to take up too much time. I immediately start apologizing immediately because his attitude to me is you are making my job more difficult. You also are a woman who's here by yourself. You don't know much about what you're talking about is. I don't I don't know that much about how things I don't know that much about car things these are two areas whereas women as as a woman, I'll just speak for myself here. I don't feel very knowledgeable. So yes, I tend to ask a lot of questions, and I tend to feel shamed. By men who tend to be experts in these areas when I ask a lot of questions in an in some ways that's better than being made to feel belittled or or condescended to. But all that was wrapped up in this experience of just being like this guy at some point yesterday. It was like why don't you just become a lawyer? And I become a lawyer what because I'm asking questions about the home that I live in. Right. I mean, like it's sort of ties into what Megan was things like she had shamed. Tied with the feeling of getting help you were asking questions. It's like anytime, we express an aeneid. Exactly that that we are somehow punished for it for having a need because you're supposed to be the need fulfilling and not the need Havers. Yeah. It seems like shame is something that is used against women and girls to like maintain the social order like if you step out if you're like, I need to seek mental health counseling. I need to ask you a bunch of questions about what you're doing to my walls. I need to my car by God. I just bought a car this weekend. And they latch relations how terrible I don't recommend it. Yeah. I don't recommend buying a car. I don't recommend cars at all. I recommend jet packs. My next investment may next cars would be a jet pack. It's my sad Goto with like car situations is I walk in. I try and have a full face of makeup on. I'm super super sweet, I'm doing a little off shocks. And then I'm like I have to call my dad, even though like I'm paying for things. But I. Make the assumption of like who knows where the money's coming from. And I call my dad and my dad when it comes to like my safety is going to be a pit bull. So I put him on. We're doing like a good cop bad cop from across the country and the good cop just happens to be a woman who looks good. Yeah. It's funny. 'cause I was thinking that the story of your dad, it's like, I just need to call. My dad Charles w Chevrolet. Now, you might have an opinion on how to buy a car. And the thing is I don't even think my dad knows anything. But it is. They're like, I'm, but my go-to is like all find them a, man. Yeah. They'll talk to the man. And then they'll come and talk to me that sort of thing. I totally get I brought my boyfriend with me. And he I ended up getting a good deal. But I don't know if I would have gotten a good deal if there hadn't been a man there for me. It's like on one hand, I understand why you would bring a guy with you on the other hand. It's like God. What if I were a single mom having to do this? And I didn't have a guy could. Yeah. That's fucking bullshit. Like how how do I stop this? Like, what can I do? And then follow each other trying to help you find your car. Just like we go this good. Is this going to be good? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It was it was it was crazy. But I think that like for for women and girls, it's a way to keep us in line. I mean, even when it. Comes. So we didn't even get into like slut shaming. Which is I think the term slut is usually the one next to shaming that we see the most frequently. I let my freak flag hair fly with my natural curls. Because like, I didn't even you know, we I always had this thing where I just wanted straight blond hair so badly my whole life because I wanted to assimilate I wanted to be normal so badly, and I felt that I was carrying around the secret that everybody knew that I was a Jew. And of course, it's passed down from like, you know, centuries of people chasing Jews out of everywhere. And in your mind, you're like, oh, that's why Jews became so funny because we're trying to take shame back or trying to be like where pieces of shit. I know. Like like Woody Allen is like I'm such a of shit. I can't believe I could date this lady ship, and it's like trying to take all that. Shame back and own it and make joke about it. But the same time it's still in there ripping apart a little bit. Yeah. Even when you're joking about it. It's it's definitely like it's like if you're drinking poison your drinking this poison. You're still like drinking the poison and everything up a quick counterpoint. Yes, please. I wish more people would feel shame throw that out there. So who do you wish would? I mean because I think you, and I were is Catholic right? Yes. Yeah. You raise guy was as well. So there's like there's a guilt. Shame component of. I think it's a cousin of Jewish. Shame. Guilt. Not the same thing. But now, my friends who are Jewish, and when we when I talk about how I feel like a piece of shit most of the time like, oh that sounds a lot like how I also feel like a piece of shit and not the same. Yeah. But similar like like for me. It was like my Jewish friends. The the guilt is like your mom would be like you never call me. And my mom would be like, you know. I'm all I'm glad. You're you know, I'm glad you're doing. So well that you don't need to call. Undercut different kinds of different flavor. But their cousins. Yeah. Yeah. I think that like, but they're you know, we feel it. We're feeling it when we remember it. But there are people that aren't feeling at gray. So there's a lot of people in entertainment who do not feel shame. I understand that in order to succeed in entertainment. There has to be an air of confidence. Unfortunately, quiet thoughtful reserved. Personalities with people who kind of withhold their skills until the moment comes to shine. And then they don't talk about themselves that often is very very rare. And it's not rewarded. Why would it? I mean in social media. Social media is a reflection of how we exists in society. The louder voices are the ones that get the most attention. But it unnerves me that there's I and I think there's a big difference between confidence and between cockiness. And I think we're seeing a lot of people feel like they have to emulate that that air of cockiness in order to succeed. Even clearly comes from a place of insecurity. Even if it clearly comes from a place of not feeling confident in themselves. They're just projecting that because they feel like that's what has to happen. And listen, we're living in the of Trump. There's a reason that that's happening is because we're seeing how blustery cockiness can make somebody Rice's success knows. What came first the chicken? Glad. Yeah. I feel like we were sort of heading down this path. And he represents that you know, that we said because I don't think there should be shamed. Except for a public colossal. Shame. You know, like you said, Erin, the people who sit should feel. Shame don't. So I feel like there has to be this, you know, sort of big wave of shame that goes out to all the people who support redistribution of shame. Yes. The shame goes to the people who support somebody who feels. No shame. Yeah. Who is in key incapable of feeling shame. And who's doing the most shameful things like that? We can send that way. But individually one on one I feel like we have to completely eradicate shame because I feel like it is from shame that most of hateful behavior. Does is sprung. I think that's right. Yeah. Like, homophobia seems like it's born of shame. A lot of a lot of seems like it's born of shame of of women. And I think that I think that the confidence thing is an important counterweight. We talked about confidence just the other week. But one thing I've noticed is that people want short cut to having the thing that causes the the symptom people want the they think that the symptom causes the disease like, so if they drive a BMW, it means that they're successful. And in reality, if you're successful, you might earn enough money to purchase a BMW. Also, if you're successful in bad with money, that's what you would do. But you know, it's it's like, oh if I'm if I project. Shamelessness then I have nothing to feel bad about. But that doesn't it doesn't work in reverse. You have to like work from the inside out in order for that to actually be true. I do think there's been a positive rise in sort of the branding of like, I mean, you'll see even like young adolescents in shirts that are like no shame shameless. Like that kind. I mean, there's a very successful show called shameless. So I I mean, and you know, there's some problematic characters on some problems. But I I do think that they're the generation sort of like behind us. That's in highschool. Now, definitely seems like they are not feeling as much shame as we did. And maybe it's just t shirts. Maybe maybe Jeff hashtags. There's there's obviously a rise in in the shame. They're feeling because we didn't go to school when there were social media. That would've really. Really ruined for me. I'm so I'm sorry to circle back to what you were saying grace because I think it is so interesting like that I did start to you did start to feel a change in the either. When people started to say, no, I refuse to feel bad about this. And that then toppled into I refused to feel bad about any early. Any? I know that dovetails a little bit with what Megan is thing because it's kids should live a life, basically free of shame. So that it can develop an explore themselves. But shame should set in. When you reach adulthood as away her you from doing things that are fucked up and hurt people. Yeah. That's like what shame should be. I wanna talk a little bit about shame and sex just because it's something that I think is often closely associated when I was a kid. We I I didn't grow up in a house where we talked about sex at all I remember being in elementary score or very early elementary school. When we got one of those weekly reader. Remember, those things were like four pages. And they're like, here's a new story for kids like pictures of penguins, or whatever. But I remember there was one special that was about aids because we as first graders needed to know. Wow. And it was like the height of the pandemic. But in Wisconsin, it's like we didn't really, but they handed it out. And I remember our teacher was like nobody can laugh when I read this aloud I remember my teacher said the word sex. And I was mortified I was so mortified because we just didn't talk about it in my house. I never got. I never got a sex talk. I did have my mom sit me down. Once when I was like in eighth grade and told me what a period was. But by that point all ready had a class called human growth and development, which was a very intense class where we use the correct words for things and on the first day of the class. We had to go around reading the definitions of things. And so I learned everything I needed to know about sex from school, and my parents never taught me about it. So even like in my house now, and I'm. Sorry, dad for blowing up your spot. I hope you're not listening to this because this would ashamed my phone. My dad is one of those people who he's wonderful father. But we would like as a family be watching the sound of music, and he would have to get up and leave the room in the scene. When captain von Trapp and Maria like make out. I know he he couldn't deal. So you'd have to get that's how like over to like any sex stuff. My family was so when I first became somebody who is sexually active older than probably most people it became something. That was like I had a little bit of like weird residual shame around went away pretty quickly. But it's something that I think a lot of people don't necessarily escape truly unscathed. What are your experiences with shame and sexuality? Well, I'm happy to report that I grew up not having a ton of conversations about sex either. But my parents in their retired years have become more vocal about sex than anybody else that I know, and my mom is the first one to make jokes about it. My mom's the first one to ask questions that I have no desire to answer about my own experiences in life in that way. And and I think it's it's really charming because I like you Erin grew up Catholic, and it was not. Really disgusted. All I also had three big brothers have three brothers. And so they they're still very much live. So the three so they didn't want to hear about any of that. There was not a lot of conversations about that. But but that change that shifted, and I think that a big reason why there was a shift is because the youngest of my three brothers who's gay when he came out, my family's very very very accepting so much so that my parents, basically denounced Catholicism in many ways because they're like well, not in many ways in all the ways because they're like how can we belong to this institution? That's not supportive of our son. And so seeing that happen. I could see my parents, it just shifted everything for them because suddenly sex became this thing that was not to be discussed sexuality with something. That was the same for everybody and the second that my brother came out, suddenly all those tropes that they knew to be consistent within every every individual was not the case anymore, and I think it opened their eyes which then brought in the conversation. So it was great. And I love the fact that my. Parents are in their seventies talking about sex. It's hilarious. That is amazing. And let's get them on the show. Meghan. Do you were you ever in a situation in school where a girl you watched a girl be shamed? For her sexuality like high school college. Oh, yeah. I mean, there was a girl who got thrown out of our church because she like someone in highschool made a sex video of her. I mean, not thrown out of church. She got thrown out of church. It wasn't even like a, you know. You know, it was just like a regular gas lecture. I mean, I had about it was very. The the preset. I'm sorry. This is above my pay grade. Just like listen I've seen the video. And so I. My reaction to that very much was like, oh, I never having sex. I was like so so afraid of it. I used to I li- that I'd given a blow job when I had it because I felt so embarrassed I never lied about giving a blow job. I did that too. I was really any like everybody is like right Ellie. That's the other side of like sex positivity though, if you will like live at your in a culture where like all the cool people are like sex positive, but then in your house, it's like, no. Negative, you end up doing this thing where I was like really well behaved, I never did anything. And I remember being in social situations where like I have to lie about how experienced. Yup. And I think that there are women and girls who choose to not have sex earlier. They don't feel ready when they're in high school or even an early college who feel like they need to pretend like it's like. Oh, yeah. Yard backwards. Shame years, no mail word for slut. There's just none. And you know, that was the first word that was the first way I knew how to put down a girl in my class. You know, oh, she's a slut. And especially if you wanted to remove her as possible competition, you know entity you were like I heard she slept with so. And so, you know, she slept the whole football team, or whatever, you know. And it's just sad. Women are sort of to shame. What any wits are to the word snow? We have like fifty different ways that the word for shame is sham. It's comes from German, which is Jonah. So. What what a fact. Yeah. Fund. The men's they thought of everything right, man. I remember being in college and Catholic college. I I went all the way with Catholic college. And I remember my freshman year. There was a case of like a girl who accused members of the football team of sexual assault. And the case when when like it I was being whispered whispered about on campus. Everybody was whispering about her. Like, she was a slut like she was. Oh, yes. She always looked up football players, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, it probably didn't have it ended up being that all four of them were exonerated. But the way that we are I talking about it when we knew literally nothing about the case was the first the way the girls were talking about it. We're like this girl's a slut Mattielo goski. Yeah. Monica Lewinsky is a great one to kind of close our conversation on shaimaa. And let's Bekale are you comfortable sharing the Monica Lewinsky. Yeah. It's my best story. I I'm I'm happy the the the long and short of it is that I had a terrible horrific type. Yeah. We'll debate is tipped, but I had a really bad day on Twitter because all the trolls came out when I called our president racist because he is. And and so, you know, it was like on my Twitter, and my Instagram and Facebook, and I was real bummed out about it. And because I hadn't learned privacy controls yet. And now, I do so fuck you, and you can't get me. And so I went to this party that night and I never smoke weed. But I 'cause I makes me immediately so stupid. And but I was not having a great day. And I thought why the hell not and I walked in. This woman was just so kind and sweet. And like I was just like, so what do you do where are you from? Oh god. I don't know how to socialize. And then the long short is. She said, oh, I know this. Person because I give talks I said what about and she said, bullying, I said, oh, I had really bad day. Could she arms around me hugged me pulled me in like good? God how this woman read my mind. Like, I needed a hug I needed a full on hug, and I felt like all my troubles went away. And then as I was driving home. My friend said did you fund talking to Monica Lewinsky? I wanted to crap myself because. The fact that I said to this woman whose entire adult. Life was shredded since she was twenty two to say, you know, I had a bad day on Twitter just mortification utter total mortification I didn't recognize her. She's such a God damn delight. And I would have apologized would apologize because I too fell into that thing where even at the time. I would think I was in college. And I was like, I know this is wrong. I know that this is wrong the way we're talking about her. Ooh. But I just thought of a good punch line. You know what I mean? But I don't even know if I launched all the time because I remember thinking this is not right. But that's what I'm talking about grace when I'm talking about a grand public Uber. Shia. Yeah. But not but not individuals. So yeah, we need to have a panel decide who gets Uber shaved. And it needs to be a well vetted panel of professionals have good morals and like a good. Shame technocrats. Yeah. I mean, I think Uber could be shamed. From. Uber shaming right there. Monica Lewinsky should be on that panel for sure she decide who gets shamed. And who doesn't right? What an any? She wouldn't shame. Anybody wouldn't is? I honestly I've I've met her before as well. And she's a friend of Eliza who's one of our other panelists on the show, and she's just like lovely. She's just a lovely person. I can't imagine the amount of strength that she's had to overcome what she overcame and to carry on the wishes carried on and she so inspiring to so many people I think that's like as good a note as any to end on. I'm glad we solved that we sell. We solved it. We solved. Shame. We're done. We're done with shame. We have to take a break when we come back. The hillsdale Diane. This week's episode of hysteria is brought to you by parachutes. Everybody has a relaxation uniform. Whether it's a luxurious bathrobe, beware. Favorite quilt, you wrap around yourself. Or a pair of slippers you slide into your relaxation uniform is a wearable out of office sign. So now it says I'm supposed to talk about what I put on take the day off. But I work from home up until this week. I was working from home most days. And so what I was wearing what we're closed that. If my mother saw me, she would be concerned, it was like whatever was on my floor like sweat pants. 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And you know, what I want? I want a hotel with sheets and room service. So that's the hilby diet on while I wave at you for my gorgeous hotel while y'all. I love that. That's great. I feel like there's a lot of nodding around the table. And I'm a I'm gonna go ahead. And I'm not going to die on that hill. I'm not I love I love camping ranking. But I feel. Yeah. I would much rather be. I'm like kinda done with Airbnb to give me a hotel. I want to know where like the sheets are resurgence of hotel is coming for. Yeah. It's coming in my life. Lamping I guess, but then it's like I don't wanna be in like a kind of nice cabin. I'd rather just be. I think he'd do like a combo platter. I think you do you rough it for a few days, and then, you know, go take it self to a nice place for night. Yeah. I have a really good dinner. Everything will taste better. Everything will feel better. You'll have such a new preseason for things. I know roughing no roughing roughing. So I love I love I love. I love a rough. And you follow it up with something. Really nice. Like in a mill hike for like ninety minutes. That's fine. I like a boat of oh, I hate. It's just a prison. I like water prison so bad prison me. Me vote is three hours of me. Figuring all the ways we're gonna die. Yeah. I guess it's like also thinking about sharks. Even if I'm in a lake shark could probably get in here. A psychopath who lives below the waterline. Oh, yeah. They have very my brain goes. That's wow. Yeah. That's interesting. So I'm going to be afraid of. No, I'm in the ocean. I'm like what if a baby washed up? I just have these. Well camping. I like it. I like it. I think you have to follow it up with something. Nice. But I like camping. But I respect the hill. Okay. So my hill this week don't give balloons as a present of any kind. They are responsibility like flowers are like at least there is a responsibility. But at least they're beautiful, and they do all good. They smell good. And you feel really you can look at them, and you feel special a balloon is like giving somebody a hermit crab. It's like there's this thing that if I let it go. I have the stress of watching it float away knowing it's gonna like land in the ocean, Lambda, choke a baby seal and also like or I'm gonna keep it in my house. I'm going to successfully I'm going to succeed with a balloon to keep it in my house, and I'm going to watch it slowly late now aging heavily day. Right. Happy birthday. This is a this is bad up version of the rest of your life. Yeah. I'm going to deflate. And then you're going to be on the ground and someone's going to throw you in the garbage and be like, oh, I wish. Had gotten this, by the way. There's nothing worse than standing in line to get balloons to begin with party city is a nightmare place. It's a hell scape. It's terrible. I hate it. So no one is enjoying getting balloons to give as a gift anyway. Gift by if I would well lack congratulations to baby. I think they're nice supplement. I guess, but I think they're better supplements in the form like alcohol alcohol to an actual president would be one thing. But gesture balloon. Yeah. Like a balloon animal yet. But but you mean like like a child not for me. I don't wanna. But like, I don't know. Yeah. If I was drunk. I put one on the head. Anything's fine when you're drunk. I guess what? I realized I mean, I've been nephew who really likes balloons. He just likes it because he's a child. Yeah. But I, but generally, but then also if he has a balloon, and it gets let go it's the worst. And he's always going to remember. I just just don't just pass on the balloons. Yeah. There's other things that you can like straws hard pass. Yeah. Totally. All right. Who wants to go next? I'm so ready from grace Gracie raring to go. Okay. So today, scientists revealed the first image of a black hole. Have you guys seen it? No. I I read online. It's nothing. It's a blurry piece of shit. I don't understand why we making a bit. I get it. Like, it's huge, historically. I understand Lord. Yes. Yes. The Lakers a woman behind the algorithm. That allowed us to take a photo blog hole for the first time. Congratulations. What am I looking at here? What is this? You know? Yeah. It's that's it. That's the whole thing. I saw that at around it. It's it's been isn't learning. And then if you go in you're gone. Yeah. I guess so but doesn't that? Just click. Okay, guys, like an eclipse. It's not let me go subatomic. I thought it was a big old appointment, I'm very happy for the science community. And I know that this is a hot take a picture of Adolf is a disappointment. Yeah. Let me put my push. My glasses up my nose for a moment may that black holes are basically supermassive concentrated matter. Right. Where the clothes like the gravitational field is so strong that light can escape. So theoretically as you approach the center, you just your atoms. Yeah. Disintegrate did. I miss a whole year of middle school. You're all like matter. I learned from children's encyclopedia when I learned what a black hole was I stayed up all night being afraid that one was going to get me. Oh, wow. I was too young too young to know about black holes. But I was they're very they're very scary. I guess I mean that doesn't look that scary to me that looks like I just think that in this age of Photoshop filters. Give us something something. So you you would have accepted it with like Valencia? A hundred percent you could just like sharpen it a little bit sharpened the contract. We more concerned about the whole inside. Instead of that ring of fire around the ring is like the last I think it's just a release of energy before everything just kind of break that is fascinating. They come back. And I'm glad we're talking about black holes. I think that the visual representation could be better. You know? So I know it's rude. It's rude. It's rude to talk to black hole Brandon about hind it. No. It's just it's just a like if you looked at it from the side, there would be like matter matter. But like, yeah. Owns that. Yeah. It's it's really it's scare you know, when I was a kid, I was really afraid of it. But just now I was like what if a black hole swallowed all of us. And I would be fun. I wouldn't want quicksand as a kid would you've been scared of that. Slowly, dying insane that that that would be. That's interesting visual stuff of nightmares. Yeah. Tied come in. While you're in now. No, all right. Who wants to go next Meghan? I'll go next. I think bubble tea sucks. I think it's expensive. I think it tastes like sticks. I think if you like I mean talk about those straws we're going after tiny. It's like we need to get bubble tea straws gone first because whole schools of fish are getting caught in those. They're so mad if you saw the tapioca is we it tastes like sort of like. Kind of hard come. I mean, it's like. It's so if you swallow when you could choke on I can't hire businesses existing just from selling bubble tea, y'all got up y'all got a brand out because it's macho I love macho you're wrong. No. I'll I'll kick. Yeah. That's weird. I love it. I lift no, I don't wanna drink dirt about bubble tea. I agree with you that it's it's it's it's a scotch much. But I love like three to four sips of bubble. I don't want any more of a waste of money. I think that's how everyone feels my. They're like they want to like it. And the, and it's not I don't believe anyone really likes much like that texture. I don't know what it is. Hard. Come you, guys? Who does us? You know, big enough. We can admit it. Yeah. Mckay. Like somebody left the cap off the Pena's. Yeah. And then coming out in pellet. Yeah. Come just shooting down your thoughts. I guess. This is this is the blue. This is our first video sorry. And this is literally my dad is going to cry. Sorry, ryan. But you have the power to edit all this out that. Oh, yeah. That's true. But we're not we're not going to we're not, you know, what we need to be more. Come. Michaela. Do you wanna go less? Oh, sure. This is probably very banal. Because anytime you talk about cars and traffic in LA. It's like, but does everybody know the God damn rule about when two cars are trying to pass each other on a hill. Does everybody know that rule? It is you're supposed to pull over if you're the one with the with the like cars parked on your hand. I'm fucking your life. Oh, yeah. You're fucking my life. It's the rule. The rule is the person going. Uphill has right of way way. Oh, that makes sense. That makes sense. It doesn't always make sense because of the car situation. Erin, you have a great point. But you would fail traffic square. But if you go by has a tar twice dob like, I've definitely gun. Woo gone back on like in Beverly Hills. Yeah. Like, I'm gonna ruin the break capacity. Always to like pause. So like once they're in motion. They gotta kinda chug up the hill. Right. So if you're coming downhill, you think downhill would have right away because you're like, I got no brakes. Yeah. The way, but that's. Yeah. With my son. There's there's a. Yeah. There's that is the hill. That's all. You actually made die. So you're going to get an not going up this hill and then Michaela gets involved in slow speed collision because again. Because I really I will die on the hill of abstinence. Like with a Honda odyssey Pearl. That's I think the part of the reason why that even has to be a rule because cars are so big now like driving driving big car in LA. What a new a trash. Oh my God. I I just got one. But it's. I saw it. It's cute again. It's a hybrid electric. But but but it I get the finger constantly, and I and I feel like a douche bag in it. And I don't know how long this can last. Oh, man. Like a giant. Oh, like, Texas truck. Yeah. Texas big for vs. Sure. I saw murdered out SUV in my neighborhood recently. A what murdered out SUV? What does that all all black matte outside? Oh is that word murdered out? Yeah. Great. I learned something. Yeah. Yeah. And it wasn't about black holes. What? That that seems that seems a bit too much. Okay. Well, those are the hills that we're going to die on this week. We don't have to come up with a whole new one next week because I have to be your every week, and I keep having to come. It's like oh the other week. I did one about serial characters stealing from each other all the time which I was pretty proud of. But it was really scraping the bottle of my arm rain. Yeah. There's a steal a hamburglar. Yeah. It's like a theft based culture in the serial world, always stealing from each other. Yeah, observation thank you. Anyway, we got to wrap up race, Megan and the Kayla. Thank you for joining me in studio today semester, Monaco. Thank you for joining us over the phone. 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"This episode of hysteria is brought to buy com dot com guys. Guess what your calm? I know. I'm never I've never called com dot com has an app and on the app there are options for things like guided meditation, and there's also something called adult bedtime stories. They're not like sexual. They're just like soothing voices reading adult bedtime stories now in the weeks leading up to this people have been telling me that there's a Matthew mcconaughey one. And I've seen it in the list. But until last night, I had not listened to it. And folks is worth the hype. Really? Yeah. It's Matthew mcconnahey reading a story called wonder and Detroit, Leslie, I fell asleep within like two minutes. You don't even know if it was good. It was a -ffective. I guess that means it's good. Yeah. It's affective. I did not know that the cure to my insomnia. Was Matthew mcconaughey? Reading wonder how. Yeah. Just put on a Buick commercial call today. Lincoln lincoln. Yeah. Wow. Oh god. 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A little bit of housekeeping at the top first of all Nancy Pelosi shirts, just got restocked this week in we have Incisa small to double XL. So if you are hankering for an anti Pelosi shirt, and you can go to crooked dot com and get yours. Second on the agenda. America's soulmate semester. Go has a new book called? So here's the thing. It just came out this week by it. That's great. And we love Elissa. So listen, congratulations. Finally, if you want to submit a hill die on record, a thirty second voice memo on your phone and send it to hysteria at crooked dot com. That's hysteria at crooked dot com. Now, let's get to the show. Hey, how's it going? That's good. It's good. I'm so sorry about your face. This is not a sentence. I normally I would never normally say this to you. But I you okay. Yeah. No, I'm fine. It's just literally like this is so dumb in vain. But of like, I've never thought about my chin deeply and now my. Like, I can't leave my house until this goes down. I called like three doctors like is. It just is like you just have to wait. You know, just like going through the most of the becoming like Quasimodo in my home like dragged the curtains blacking out here. Like a delivery comes in you open the door and you hiss when the light hits. That's exactly what's going to happen. It's so it's like it's not even I mean, it's a little like source though. But it's mostly just swollen and unattractive, which you know, cool cool personal brand to have swollen and unattractive. You know, when I got my I didn't get my wisdom teeth out until I was thirty because I have a really weird I have a child's mouth. What? And anyway, when I got them out. It was like really hard on me because I was thirty when they took them out. And I got like I had a ton of bruising. And I remember when I was recovering from it being in that exact mindset thinking like I'm hideous. I can't I can't leave my. And it was like. Anyone new people have already met before that? It's like fun. Okay. They're going to be like, you don't usually look. But yeah, I don't know people walk around the world with faces that have quirks to them all the time. And they're just fine. And I remember thinking I remember thinking to myself like it is a total like rude awakening to be like. Oh, no. But then I was like, I guess if I had this for like if it were going to be forever. I would get used to it. It would take a couple of weeks. But I'd be like, I'm the girl with the purple cheeks now two AM, and I'm accepted. Yes. Exactly. It's like it would be a moment of personal growth. Well, akilah. Thank you so much for joining despite your your what your accident decide it's we can laugh at it. Because you're laughing at it. I normally wouldn't exactly I slipped. My face cats, as I do you have like an old fashioned toothache thing, you know, like in cartoons when they tie something around somebody's head underneath at least should do that. Just so like, I sympathize purchase I think it'd be I always thought it was real cute. You should do it. I think it's cute. So we've got a couple of news stories that I wanted to get to today we were originally going to talk about something else. I, but then I logged onto Twitter this morning. And I was like, oh, my God R Kelly did his first interview since he was arrested and charged with ten counts of aggravated sexual assaults. And a few of those people were underage at the time. He did his first interview and it aired this morning it he was interviewed by Gayle king on CBS this morning, and it was a spectacle akilah. Did you see clips of this interview? Did you see pictures and stuff? Yeah. It's absolutely stunning. There's a person like this who, you know, obviously have all of these horrible accusations in has for decades. Right. Not have some sort of PR person. Tell him not to get up and scream at gale. That navy? I that you say like never leave your chair and never yell. Yeah. Yeah. Whoever yells first loses in an interview in interview, the person who yells I is the loser for sure, but he he stood up and he got engaged king's face kind of. But it was almost like he wasn't even yelling at gale. He was yelling at the camera. It's like he was platforming for for the audience and Gail sat there, very stoically and calmly and professionally as as man was just sort of like looming over her and screaming and crying, and and responding by saying that he was being lied on. He was saying he was being assassinated. He said he was being buried alive, you know, as he was being given a national platform to defend himself. What did you think of Gaels composure during this whole thing, I think they'll definitely speaks to like the way black women have always had to perform in public situations. Right. Where you know, if she had been that emotional for any reason and. I can't imagine why she would have been, you know, I I do think that people are addressing our Kelly's performance, and that's exactly right. It was a performance for the camera. You know, they're addressing how over the top. It was. But I also think that you know, Gail really showed the kind of stoicism that I in in these times and these trying times where like it's bad news every day. It's Alan ously refreshing to see an interviewer asked tough questions and not end up devolve in the conversation in to, you know, yelling back at this person who clearly isn't ready to have this conversation. I mean in talking about these times a lot of people were reminded of another recent performance by a man who was crying while accused of sexual assault. When I was watching this performance. I thought a lot about the Brad Kavanagh hearings that happened back in September of last year about how he he started his testimony by that I'm innocent of this charge. He c- he called the hearing partisan frenzy bent on destroying his nomination, his family and his good name. He called the confirmation process a national disgrace. This isn't a supreme court Justice. We're talking not about our Kelly. We're talking about a supreme court Justice. He also said, you know, that that the the national review ran a piece calling the the hearing a character assassination as to the weekly standard to conservative outlets. You know, the the idea that that a man being accused of sexual assault is the same thing as being murdered is something that is really interesting here. Did you see parallels between Cavanaugh and R Kelly, and where do you see those two narratives diverging, I think the similarities are pretty glaring. There's the immediate victimization of the shelves, where it's you know, I deserve this thing. I should be revered. I've had a thirty year career these accusations. You know, no matter how substantiate is and how poorly I can refute them are damaging to me. What what I may? Or may not have done is besides the point. It's just so unfair that I even have to answer a question, and it's interesting because the critique of women in power and women in polish. Ix is always that women are to emotional. And you know, I I don't think that it's because they both like are in be that these two men had the same sort of performance. I think it's more of a culture of never blaming boys. And when they do get blamed for something they absolutely cannot face any sort of consequence. How dare you? When the surviving R Kelly documentary was released it turned it on Twitter for days. It wasn't the sort of situation where we were sort of hearing about things, but not seeing the people who are affected. And so I do think that specifically with the art Kelly case since we have been hearing about allegations against him for truly decades. Like, it can't be overstated that this is something that has been in the site guys. And we've just sort of collectively as a society, we knew that this was a problem. I personally don't listen to remix anymore, and that, you know, the difference here is that we weren't so super unaware of the problem with our Kelly. It's just that now that this documentary exists and we're hearing. Emceeing the voices and faces of the victims that you know, it's all very real. And it's all kind of hard to ignore. Because there was just so much information about our Kelly's, you know, alleged transgressions. I think we we were it's easier to sort of turn to not feel like we're gonna get anything new with Brad Kavanagh. He basically just said he was innocent. And then he had a hearing where he dislike yelled and screamed and cried. And it was like an absolute just travesty for democracy the way that he conducted himself. But also, I think when we talk about these times, right? It's not surprising. Then that someone like this gets appointed to the supreme court in the case of our Kelly. You know, the court of public opinion has already made a decision. He it's not like the president can just appoint him to something. Well, I mean, don't give them any ideas. Because I mean, like just Donald Trump's type except for the fact that that he's black. Donald Trump doesn't seem to like black. Very much, exactly. Like, maybe stealing R Kelly make a absolute fool of himself on TV can be a nail in a coffin versus Brett Kavanagh than getting promoted after acting like a buffoon. Yeah, that's true. And like, oh, wow. Is the new normal a man gets accused of sexual assault. And he fights it by throwing a fit, and then he wins and everything just goes. That's that's how it happens is this going to be a series of mail fits that happened forever. And I have to sit there and worry about the feelings of somebody who stands credibly accused of sexually assaulting people. Like, why is this? What I what why is this? We're forced to look at. But I do think that one silver lining in this. The art Kellyanne review was Gayle king like we talked about in her composure and so in honor of women's history month, I would like to make Gayle king. The inaugural entry on the hysteria women's history month vision board. For her composure her professionalism and her tough questions women were in situations where they're encountering emotional men can look too because she really showcased her her chops as an interviewer, and I I was really impressed by her today. Absolutely. Absolutely stunning. Work from Gail. Congratulations Gail getting the wall. Yes. Never number. One entry on hysteria is women's history month vision board, and I will be I will be invoking the spirit of Gail whenever I feel myself getting stressed out this month. Same. Well, akilah. Thank you so much for joining us. I hope your face gets better. You don't mind if I say, I hope your face gets better into a microphone, right? Honestly. I I like it. I think that we should always cheer for my face. Thank you so much for calling in today. Let's do this again, akilah Hughes talk to you view by the by. We have to take a break. But when we come back, they'll be more hysteria. This week's episode of hysteria is brought to you by parachute spring is right around the corner is is it. I think. The calendar says it is the ground talk. See, I don't know. God. I don't remember the groundhog. I agree. It was in. February what month is it even? So it's gotta be coming rain becoming. Well, it also means geese flying north fresh flowers popping up in hibernation season is officially over not true. I feel like hibernating today. Parachute. Doesn't think you need a seasonal excuse to stay in and get cozy. Good us either. So it's raining outside guys. Again, it's been raining a lot. How do you keep cozy in the rain? They imbed. Oh, stay in bed. 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I have three members of the squad with me can't wait to get into what we're going to get into I Naomi of paragon actor writer and host of the podcast couples therapy. Hello. Hello. Welcome back. Thank you for having me. Good to be home. Good to be home. We have this new art in the studio, which is hysteria specific art, which I feel very welcomed today. Worry edges. Yeah. It's great. And then we also have comedian writer and driver's license test passer, Meghan gaily. I did it. She did it and use hard. You did it. I didn't even need all thirty six questions. I passed on thirty four. Okay. Megan, you know, when I took my driver's test. It was I was disturbingly easy. I was when I was taking the written test. I was like this is what they're giving. People licenses for one of the questions was I'm not I I've said this on the podcast over one of the questions was when you were backing up, and there are kids at the end of the driveway. What do you do? Do and what are the? Right. And what what is an answer. The answer was honk your horn. So the kids know that cars moving like, it's not a bad start. Yeah. Start. But sure there's questions about like tractor trailers. And how many how much they weigh? What those are tricky. I think how much they way not way. Oh. Oh, I'm exaggerating. I was there wouldn't be numbers on that. And finally, welcome back to TM TRAN actor writer and survivor of bangs. Hello. It's been a part of my identity since I was a child. This is a big step for me to see my own forehead there. Don't get things. I'm just gonna not you. But anybody just generally speaking, I'm doing doing the day after my wedding. I'm gonna get a blunt bang. I don't wanna be. I don't wanna be on my deathbed and say never got a bang. Okay. It's it's it's an eighteen month commitment, I once had a bad bang haircut. And my sister told me later on that everything I said sounded dumb. Just be careful for that. Yeah. I'll have an excuse. Well, let's get into the the bigger topic this week. We'll March is women's history month. Congratulations guys. This is the month to have a dream. Yes. We're going to do what we actually we actually just started the hysteria women's history month vision board today. So if there's a woman who inspires you. And you wanna pause and be like I want to add this woman to the hysteria women's history month vision board. I don't care let it be a free for all Adler. My God forever you want? Gayle king is number one on the women's history month vision board, but because it's women's history month, I've been thinking a lot about the whole idea of like women as a United front, which is it something that doesn't really make sense anyway. But then I've been thinking about women I tend to agree with as United front, which doesn't actually exist either. And by that, I mean feminism I think most people listening to this podcast are feminists, call themselves, feminists or agree with feminists on a lot of things or you're listening to this because we make you very very angry. And if that's the case congratulations for making it this far without having your heart explode in your chest. But feminism is something that seems to be a word that means whatever anybody wants it to me. So it kind of it kind of means nothing. And and a lot of a lot of criticism of feminism recently has been that it is exclusive or that it leaves people out or that elevates some at the expense of others. So I want to get into it. I think we can solve it today. Yeah. Yeah. Thirty two minutes McCaw. Yeah. This is like the best escape room. We can't leave until we solve it. It's iran. Chef in the ingredient is women. You'll be the first time you, and I talked you brought this up as something that kind of is on your mind. The lot like the divisions within feminism race sexual identity, sexuality, gender expression are all things that have alienated people within the feminist movement. And how how have you seen that happening? They only well, I guess I really when we first talked what I was very interested in. But it was like oh my God. If I got a white woman alone. I'm getting answer. Picking your brain. What it feels to me like the the branding of feminism, the commodification of feminism is so centered on SIS white women. It's so interesting to me when I felt like my knowledge like all the academic language around. Feminism was like that didn't come to a much later in life. Like, I'm a black woman who grew up with a single mom who worked in raised me. So I was like, yeah. Women can do stuff. And also, they don't have a choice. It didn't feel like it was like I am putting on the men to live womanhood to feed my child. It was like this is what has to be done. Because that's so that's what I always saw. And that was my idea like that's baseline. And it wasn't until later in life was like, you know, like, I didn't even get the some women didn't have to think that you know, we're like didn't think that it. It was like to me it was a no-brainer. And then to feel like he's like not only is it not a no brainer. It is very divisive them. People are not having it. But it always seems like whenever it is presented in a way that people like it is like a white woman. I am standing strong. It is. And that's the part that can be very. Very frustrating to me because then because then that kind of determines who who's issues we care about. Yeah. Like who gets credit for what advancements and who gets to actually experienced them, and who is celebrated for things that that other women don't get to pick. Like, I think I think another another way that manifests is women who choose to stay home with their kids because their husbands make enough money that they can choose to stay and a lot of times. It's white people who have the money that one can be like I'm going to opt to take care of and good for you. If that's your choice, but I think that that's also like a kind of a false celebration. And I also think one thing you brought it was really interesting Naomi was about. No. That was that was that was a treasure trove of interesting points. It reminded me of something ten and I have talked about about marketing, and the image that people are presented of what feminism looks like. And you mentioned that you think that marketing kind of kind of mix feminism into something that's like soft and fun and happy. Yeah. I think it gives a false sense of achievement. And that like things are moving forward in a way that we can all get behind. Now. Don't get me wrong. When I saw that Nike women's history commercial. I cried I straight up cried. And I was like this beautiful. I love sports, and we can win gold, medals and. And, but like, you know, something as as like a Nike a company that puts out these like positive progressive messages as a company as a whole, we all know is awful and has like terrible, practices and exploits people. So like that's where I think the like hypocrisy of commodifying and advertising feminism is like it's just a feel good. It just feels like a feel good Pat on your back kind of exercise for these companies. Now, don't get me wrong. I think it's like representation is very important, and I think marketing and advertising shape so much of like how we see the world. And so I think it is on some level important to have those images out. But I just wish they were doing more than just like a surface band-aid for women's is for women's history month, you know, right? Well, remember when dove made us all never hit our bodies. Again. The only soap I it is the only. Body wash manage. I mean, if it works it works, but I do remember them those had. Had him out in there. Like, everyone is beautiful. Everyone is you know, whatever. And it's the same company that makes ex buddies pretty well. Right. But then also don't you think to especially now a big those ads could not start now because then people would be like, you're excluding different types of bodies. You know, what I mean like there's attic that was of a time or even now when that came out what ten years ago? However, we would like I am empower. She is thick like me. And you know, now, I feel like we'd be in a time. That's still not representing all women, and that that brings up a really interesting point. I've been seeing on Twitter, and there's a piece in the New York Times a couple of weeks ago about feminism in the UK, and how it's a sort of riddled with like trans exclusion, and how that is like a huge divisive issue over there, which to me felt very alien because here that's not really something that's acceptable within mainstream like women's lib, if you will to use a phrase from the nineteen seventy but but anyway, I think. I think that like, you know, there's different parts of the world have different kind of Lyon battle drawn. And it's it's really it was interesting to read about how fucked up it seems over there. And then I was like, oh, wait it's also over here like with the women's March, the whole, I think focusing so much on like anatomy and the pussy hats in and of itself is already exclusionary because you know, a lot of fem identified bodies. Don't have like, you know, aren't vagina hammered. Plus he put in and those are pussy hats. You know? So like, I think what you're seeing in England is like happening. Happening is here. As I went through our outline for today. I was like gosh, I didn't even know about a lot of these like, I guess, quote, unquote infighting that's happening under the giant umbrella that is feminism. But I think that's because of your point of like, I m who feminism is like a I'm the poster child now, it's like an acceptable, white gal who curls her hair and puts on a lip. And and tells my dad when he's wrong, even though he paid for my college. I am in the poster child, and so I don't have to know because I'm like, well, I have my pussy hats. And all of my gal pals or coming over to watch the premiere of New York tonight what we're doing. But it's like, oh, we are the ones that have to really educate ourselves. So we can start to hopefully, build a bridge. I mean because we get away with the most bullshit. Yeah. I mean, the the women's March. I think was a really good example of kind of how things are sort of coming apart. At the seems like it started. I believe it was a Jewish woman who started it. And then she enlisted the help of a few other women who sort of eventually wrested control of it from her. And then one of those women said some things about somebody who says real bad things. Right. And nobody would disavow anybody and becomes this weird like World War One friends Ferdinand type link complicated allegiances is like, wait. Now who's at war with who what's going on? And like, I think on a one thing that I've that I've kind of taken from this is that on a even though we presented this like unified front where it's like. Okay. We all agree. Fuck this guy. Fuck the president. Fuck this guy. We can we can all agree on that. But beyond that, I think that there are simmering problems misunderstanding, there's hurt feelings. There's ignorance there's all these things that maybe hadn't really been brought to the surface before. I was just wondering TNN. I just was wondering if like, you know, as a member of the community is there a specific way that you feel like feminism has excluded. You or is there a specific encounter that you have over and over again with SIS white women that makes you feel crazy. I. Okay. Wow. We're start. I the biggest thing that bothers me is how hetero normative everything is and how hetero normative like conversations start to become where it's like I'll be sitting with a group of women, and it'll be like. It'll it'll devolve into like men are like this. When like men women are like this men are like this. And I feel like it forgets like a group of people that are queer not that you need to be, you know, always talking about that. But like for me the biggest thing when it comes to straight women. Is is one of the questions. I get asked a lot it used to a lot more as like which one of you is the man. Oh. That was a question. I used to get often the other thing that bothers me is a question like it must be so much easier. God is to be it. It should be so much easier to be a lesbian, and it's not it's like people are complicated being in a relationship is hard. All people drive all. Yeah. We're we're all traffic or like all hard. Hard question, though. Are you like do you find that when you are interacting with people who don't know, you do they just assume that you are straight? Yes. That's another thing that happens to because I don't necessarily present. As like, what your idea of lesbian looks like because my hair is long. But yeah, I will I will get that a lot as well. But isn't that? This would be very interesting to me in that. Because I also knows myself. I'm like, oh, I I don't think about anyone sexuality because I'm like repressive with light to think we're all like Ken doll down there. But it is interesting. I'll meet somebody into a suit where you're like, I assume you like the opposite sex even in twenty nineteen like, no there's like a spectrum. And there are like, you know, the range of letters. And it's really, I don't know. It was like how does that still happen? I should be better. I was I was I think I was talking to you too about it. And one of my biggest pet peeves is when grownups couple young children, but it's always like opposite sex children. I want open it up. You know, open it up to all kids like two little girls is Bill McGowan, but a lesbian couple. Let them live. I had such a hard time when I first moved to New York because every man I met I was like, well, he's gay every single man. I meant I thought was gay. And then I was like, oh, I came from the midwest where if you like showed empathy in any way, you were gay. And now, I'm just living in a different like culture that men feel perhaps and sometimes not more in touch with like sensitivity. Like, they dress differently, and like just because someone percents a certain way and isn't trying to fuck me. Doesn't mean they're there. Right. That's that was actually I went through that journey when he went to New York to I was like, wow. This is a hairy where all the street. Yeah. Exactly right behind. Everywhere. They're they're tweeting about beyond say just like you knew same question that I asked ten like what's an encounter the you've had over and over again that you're like, this drives me nuts. And this is the problem. Well, one of the things I have to deal with or have to learn to I had a very early on learn how other people saw me, I think that that ideas. I think that is also distinctly to me like. Other situation. Like when you have to think about how people see you as opposed to just what you think of yourself, and for me like people assume, I am always angry when I can tell you eight times on a ten I'm tired. There's implication that like as a black woman, especially like, I'm not I'm not small woman either. So there's no like wallflower delicate to me like that's not high present I will be auditioning to be your stern teacher every day this week. But like, but that feeling of like constantly re recognizing their like any negative emotion. I have I have to either. Deny it or put some spin on it. I think it's definitely one of the reasons why I got into comedy. It was the only way I could say stuff and half people listened without anyone getting angry and just it can just be so tough to you know, they had to be like. Hi, hey. So I haven't question high you really coming in hot like upper register statements as a question, you don't want anyone to get to upset because it's so often for me, it'd be like relaxed you don't need to worry about in. Like, I don't know about y'all. But nothing makes me angrier than being told to relax always just like registered. Like if I was if I wasn't mad before I am now. But it's like a thing where and I realized that a lot of that is, you know, the trope of the angry black woman like the all of that kind of stuff feeds into like someone sees me. And if my eyes look a little to the left, I've now escalated a situation that you know, wasn't supposed to be anything in the first place. You know what I mean? Like even yesterday, I was getting I was ordering food and it was like there too. Two young white guys in front of me. I'm standing back and kind of like made a little bit because the restaurant was like busy. So I'm kind of I've moved back to make a path the servers to do their thing. And this other young white dot com and just gets in front of me. So I go, oh, it was like, hey, I'm behind him. And he's like, yeah. Okay. I get it. Oh. Okay. Well, that was that situation like real real fucking minor. Like, then it wasn't even like I was mad as much as I've made a path. And perhaps he doesn't realize you know, what? I mean. I'm sure I'm trying to let him know. But it's so it was he was already like ours. Already like bothering him. Yeah. He was prepared. He was prepared for you to be angry. Like, he had already read anger into a situation where there wasn't anger. You were pointing something out. Does that happen to you a lot? Yeah. All the time. Yeah. So I just take so much time with winning it. All the time every day, you feel like people are almost like confused or like, that's a that's a new take on an old classic that you you are with a white, man. It's I think I think it can. I think I think some people can I think it's more like, you know, haven't taking my white lover nine years ago. People still don't think we're a couple. Yeah. So many times, you know, that we are out and together and that that assumption or there will be times where I'll have him go interact with somebody in a service or even like on the phone where like well, you do this. Because like, I know they'll listen to you. And he's not even he's not even an imposing figure. He's not like a at over. Yes. Simply that like, you know, the Caucasus of hope was that can afford even even now it's still crazy. Yeah. I mean, I was also thinking as you were talking about the different ways. People treat you differently depending on how they expect you to be, but there's also sort of people that just don't even there's a there's a class of people that I think the mainstream just ignores just pretends doesn't exist. So there's people that are visible like your visible in line in there. Like, she's mad at me. And then there are people who are right in front of our faces. All the time every day women mostly women of color, mostly poor women of color who just become invisible who nobody thinks about. And I think that that's something that we saw with the R Kelly case, for example, which we talked about a news today. The women that he was victimizing. We're young black women who nobody really gave a shit about until this surviving R Kelly Documenta. Came out. There is also a a huge prostitution bust in Florida where Asian women and women from eastern Europe, but mostly women from China and Thailand were being trafficked into massage parlors and forced to perform sexual servitude for mostly wealthy men. Like, the owner of the New England Patriots of you know, and there's three hundred men I believe who've been arrested already and in this New York Times article about this prostitution sting. They were talking to some lawyers. Who were like, yeah. All these men are calling me in their panicked like again, they're so they're so concerned about themselves. Not about the fact that they were utilizing the services of sex Riley, right? There were more concerned about their feelings. And I think a lot about the way that feminism writ large has abandoned invisible. Women, and I just was wondering, you know, what your experiences have been like is there any way to responsibly consumer go about society. Like, I mean, seriously like women who are undocumented are working is domestic workers. Who are being paid entirely in cash have no protection women who are you know, had their passports seized when they came to work in a nail salon. You know, women who work in massage parlours, like how has has the knowledge that these people exist, and that they're being exploited has that changed your behavior at all. I mean, there was a famous New York Times article few years ago that talked about how poorly women who worked in nail salons where paying and then it did seem, you know, I was living in New York at the time where places had to start posting like we pay workers this wage, and and like I I made a conscious effort to try and go to the to go to the places that were like, hey, we're not paying them as like slaves, basically. And it's interesting because I think women have the ability to do that to try and do that. Whereas men who are getting a hand job are going to be less inclined to be like, well, I wanna make sure that this woman is being paid fairly for this handwriting. Like, I it's. I don't know how they're going to like fix this catastrophic problem that there is I mean, I've been to the past two Super Bowls, and when you land in those cities, you are bump bartered with him. You like all the flight attendants, everyone working at every airport is being trained to identify sex workers and people that are there against their will. And that is like all you're seeing you're seeing like a football here and there and then like how to help women who are clearly being trafficked, and it's so heartbreaking. But unfortunately, the people that are utilizing those services, I don't think have any desire to like think beyond the surface that they're kidding. Well, because that's what I'm saying. That's the treaty teams. Like how I mean when you ask how are we living differently? I mean, I would hope that I have not been paying for a woman to be abused or mistreated. The twice a year. I get my nails did 'cause I'm like not in. But at the same time. But look when you say something like a domestic worker, then again, I've never I I don't know the ins and outs. I've never had like a mater lived in a house that had one. I don't know what that is. But I would imagine that if you can afford that person you can afford if that person is undocumented, right. You know, and they've come to you. And you know that you can afford to help them meet a lawyer can afford to help them file some paperwork if you have enough money to pay for full-time help or somebody to come in. You got you got the money to make an hour legal appointment for that person. Right. I would I would hope I would think. But again, I don't you know, know, the ins and outs. But it's you know, the extent to which. So American culture American culture kind of thrives on getting as much as you can for as little as possible. I think it would be so hard for anybody to then, you know, do what would need to be done meaning spend more do more to help the next person. Yeah. Yeah. Connected to that. It's I always find it very upsetting. The argument when it comes to like immigration and undocumented folks that like even thoughtful who I think are thoughtful liberal people will say things like, well, they'll be doing the jobs that you don't want to do. And I'm like that's not good enough. These are like people who should be treated as like well as we want to be treated here in the states. So I've always I've always hated that argument of like, he will the why are you upset? They'll do the things we hate. Well, it's also what we things we also we hate them because no one is paying them a living wage again them because there are plenty of people in this country. You know, who don't have education who don't have access or even just young people like when you were fifteen and had to have like a job. You know what I mean? Like, you you got to do some dishes to would even at that age. You're like, oh, no that's not enough money to make to do that. I was a a nanny in New York City in a very affluent area and every other nanny was a woman of color, and so I would take the baby to like the playground. And they were like so you don't work, and I was like, oh, no, I'm a nanny. And they truly were like like two of them were like, oh, cool. You're like us. And then the rest were like fuck you. Why are you taking this like where's your dad? Like, they were like are you in school? And I'm like, no, they're like, you an actress, and I'm like, no. Well, I'm a comedian. I made some bad choice, and it was like baffling to them. And I and it was almost like I was taking that shitty. Job from from somebody. Yeah. I think that's really interesting point too is like the idea of like who's taking care of kids. And there's like a, you know, it's people who provide child care also often have their own children. Yeah. And so what one thing that enables wealthy women to go out. And have it all is the paid service of a woman in a lower economic? Yeah. And that's like, that's I think Naomi were sort of getting it like visible celebrated row, you go girl feminists. A lot of times have help that are like women of color who are at they're paying. Yeah. I remember like being very young like 'cause I I started private school in Manhattan talk about affluent early. And I remember coming home and age of ten and asking my mother, I was like I don't understand racism because if black people are so bad. Why do why people let them raise their children that was something that like from the age at ten just like popped out to me was like how could we be less than you? And you let us take care of your kids. It didn't it didn't work, and then people will come back from there like they're like island trip. And I'm like, they have brains like me now than why am I really do all these different layers to which you're willing to kind of take? Yeah. Avail yourself of people and on offer. But then at the same time, those people are somehow less than you. Yeah. Very confusing. You see a lot of like what like mainstream culture take tropes from people of color, and then repackage it, you know, the Elvis affiliation of everything Ariana GRANDE dang. Yeah. Right. They repackage it. And there's when people of color are doing it. It's ignored or it's it's looked past. Or it's even sometimes looked at as lesser and the white people do it, especially like white women. It's like, yeah. Yes. Queen. That I said that in the way to sway level. Yeah. Yes. Yes. He's affirmative royalty. But that's just I don't know. I think it's just a the the whole question of like, what is feminism is something that more than anything. Feminism is not about everyone feeling good about themselves. All the time. Like, I'm a white girl. And I have spent a lot of my feeling pretty good about myself like I can afford. I can afford to be made to think most people who are in positions of privilege, whether that's economic privilege or visibility. Whatever. Most of them have have the extra energy to think a little bit about what they're doing and how they're living their lives. I think and when it comes to feminism, it's it's going to be feels like it needs to be ongoing conversation where people get uncomfortable and people feel confronted sometimes, and that sucks, it sucks to feel like someone who is like, you know, what I hate it. When people like you say shit like you just said to me. That's that's uncomfortable. But that's the only you get better. Like if you had food in your teeth when you want someone to tell you. That's true. That's true. When you get to the mirror, and you find your food you like I can't trust at but. He walked these streets like this friend to tell me, I don't want to strangers. How does how I have? I've I'm thankful for strangers who tell me things that are like food is on my face. I do it to people. I I don't know. Because what if they truly if they like walked away, and they were like, oh my God. I just talked to her for fifteen minutes. And she like, I spin John my nose. We'll spit in John. You're no. Worst case scenario spinach on your nose. Well, I think guys I think we solved it. I think we solved feminism. No. I think that this is a conversation. That's we're going to bring it up again. And there's going to be issues that come up again because this is a conversation that ever since I've been aware feminism existing has been happening over and over again. And I think the only way we make progress is to just kind of lean in, you know, like. We like like number one feminists of all time Sheryl Sandberg once said. All right. We have to seek a break. But when we come back the hills we will die on. Hysteria is brought to you by Oatley, the vegan plant based vote milk originally from Sweden. That's now available in the US. So about thirty years ago in a small town in Sweden, the scientists invented owed milk, and everyone thought he was totally crazy. But remember back then vegans were weirdos on the fringes of society. Unlike today when vegans are everywhere and includes some of the most famous weirdos non weirdos on earth. So is eating a plant based diet starting to fail. Mainstream apparently, more and more people in the US and around the world are starting to understand the benefits of eating and drinking plants. So their bodies feel good. And so the planet can better cope with the impact we humans place on it. Everybody's doing it. 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That's Boeing T L Y dot com or look for Oatley on Instagram at AT L Y. All right. We're back with the hills will die on let's start with the listener hill this week as I haven't held a diner the chill girl gets too much credit. She's usually seen as dislike relaxed Kluger like guys girl, but she's not always getting stuff done. I am not sure I never have never will be my shit done to side. He needs anxious. Little maniacs. Like knee, Raymond has. Nobody's t's. Okay. So I just want to give a shout out to the non showgirls and say, it's in that, you're not chill and society. It's you and keep on doing you a stroke. Yeah. The degree the agree hard agree. I think that film is a lot of times just boring. It's just being it's like it's like externally boring to cool for like. Yeah. Opinions or feelings. But I think it's also a blanket for intense anxiety. A person is really feeling like a numbness. Yes. Like a numbness built up built up over decades. Or pot? Oh, yeah. I don't know. But I knew I like sport girls girls who grew up playing sports and stuff. They're like cool there chilled girls. You know, they're just like that. Yeah. Sometimes it's a poker face. So I've been accused of being chill before which is not it is it is constantly like six tornados going on here. But I just hold it all in with a course set of anxiety. That's that's my children. All right. Well, let's get to the hills. We'll die on all start this week the show the bachelor is reaching its conclusion. Now, I'm a former fan of the bachelor I used to watch every season, my friend, Emily, and I back in New York used to get together and watch it like it was a sporting event. And I realized before the season even started I had to tap out. Because I finally came to terms of the fact that the bachelor is never good. It's never good. The first couple episodes are interesting because they all they have that kind of like, you know, parade of lunacy that the that the producers obviously fed these poor women who are like I'm gonna go to David's bridal and go nuts. And then I'm going to take them all the California, and I'm gonna pretend to fall in love with a wannabe actor. That's whatever. But after those episodes wants the last crazy one has gone home. It's just boring. It's like watching the most. Basic people that you went to high school with like following love have you ever been out at a restaurant, and you're sitting next to people who are just very boring looking they're not locking and you wonder what do they talk about? What do they do? That's what the bachelor is. It just shows you the most boring people in the world and talk about and do which is talk about themselves and talk about the relationship, and it is not good. And it's never good bachelor in paradise. However is great. I don't watch. Because I think it's good though, I watch because I think it's bad. Okay. But that's the I two hours or three hours, but you got to record a festival this last. I mean, I don't watch any of the dates. I don't care I watch people fighting, and then I watched growing I mean. I mean, a guy did jump over a fence this year, which was a highlight on day a guy jumped over fence. And it was it was a big deal. But my question is it is it worth nineteen hours. You spend watching the state's not I know ill say the thing that I don't like about it. Now is that these people are not rich when it first started the bachelor was rich. And then he like he was like a Firestone which didn't end well, but he had like money. And now, I'm just watching people that are poor fall in love, and I don't care about now. And it's also like women who are twenty five. We're like this. Like bitch. You've got ten years of a lot of crazy shit happening to you. If you only lean into it and embrace it seriously. You can have the ten years between twenty five and thirty five best. Yeah. Yeah. I want them to branch off and do like a thirty five and above because those people like to find wealth. That's really I want to watch that show. And then the twenty five year olds it's like, I don't care about you or your religious mom. I just not. No, no, that's my that's my least favorite straight people embarrassing themselves on TV show on the mine too. Mine is ninety day say if I'm gonna watch straight people be crazy. Gosh, I'll go next. Yes. I do have a TV recommendation do it. Now, I'm gonna say this, and you're gonna you're gonna go. No, you need to hear me out. Because I am not going to lead. You astray American idol is back, and it is so good. Like, here's the difference. You're thinking FOX, you're thinking American idol on FOX American idol on ABC, very very different FOX. She banks trying to embarrass people ABC is like trying to make you cry. I saw bd so intensely on Sunday night like truly like a family member had died at the last five minutes of it. It's feel good. This next episode. Oblige woman is singing Lionel, Richie is crying. It's really incredible. You have to watch it. Hi, I'm not. I'm not suggesting watching it not high. But like find a love one also you can fast forward, but it really is good. There are phenomenal singers on it. The stories are incredible. And I just think ABC has produced it in a way that will touch your heart in a time when you might need it. Okay. I'll give it a shot. You're you're really selling it. Although I don't really like find a need to cry anymore than I already. It's not like I'm sitting there. Like my face feels plugged up. Like what's going to express my tear ducts, but I'll I'll give it a try Meghan. It's good. All right on the hill that I'm gonna die on is can can we stop with the bachelorette activities where we have to do a workout class to guy. As like, why did you why are we waking up early and doing aerial yoga? I had to do that once and I was like this is I'm not strong enough. I can't do it. I'm hurting myself in giving myself like fabric burns because I'm not doing it properly. And no one's having. I don't know. Why why why are we celebrating your marriage by getting our heart rate up as a group at you to go to Seoul cycle because you're going to be drinking that night go to sack people do yourself? Don't like people. Yes. Those people are doing. Yes. Paul dancing classes together, which really fucking hard because it's a lot of upper body strength, which is like when I don't excel. But they're doing that's like a group thing. Then no leg. Don't just like I want to work out because I'm getting married arm, so look tone. You gotta go and do that on your part of the weekend. Like don't print me out of matching tee shirt. I also hate that. Sorry, I have to. Don't make me work out. Sorry. All right. I think that's a fair hill to die on. I'm gonna just avoid making anybody man by never getting married. All right. So me, Laura Angeles is not habitable land. Okay. And I need us to stop pretending. This is some beautiful magical place. It is rained nonstop for about three months. Now, I'm from the east coast. I'm not week. I'm not saying that like it's like, I may rain is hard. What I'm telling you is this Los Angeles. Can I handle rain? I'm gonna tell you it is I came pooping my toilet at home. That's where I'm at right now because I have on the ground floor due to this constant rain in Los Angeles, having a lack of drainage, okay? Every street's a puddle y'all everything is flooded. It is not made. Okay. And it's producer Carolina pointed out, Los Angeles has been around a few years. Okay. So they should have gotten to the bottom of this. Okay. They needed to drain some shit into the ocean. You got to do something. So I can poop toilet poop is in the streets. It's not in the streets. It's just not going all out what I'm saying. Like not going all the way out and thinking, and it's you know, this is not every single day. But if this rain goes when if it's a hard rain for like two days in a row just expect rising sea levels in my back. It's also not why we moved here. Sunshine and sushi, it's literally LS only selling point, son. Yeah. And so you take that son away. And you realize you got nothing in Detroit this place. This place sucks when it's not sunny. I'm my parents were in town this weekend, they came from Minneapolis. And there are both like oh my stars. Like Robinson Crusoe like stumbling onto the sun, and it just rained. And so we made an executive decision to go to Palm Springs because they needed to like. Sues that the sun existed? But, you know, without when the sun's not out, you're like, this place sucks. This sucks. But when it doesn't rain it doesn't wash away all the bad stench. Their stench like LA, smells does anyone not do? We all think LA Smith for. You're staying. Smells bad. Well, that's all the time. We have today Meghan, ten Naomi. Thank you for joining us, the Quila Hughes. Thank you for calling in with the news, and there will be more hysteria this necessarily. Jay Bennett, Email. I want to have any get your gun. Shut down.

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"Cry It Out" (with Priyanka Aribindi)

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"Cry It Out" (with Priyanka Aribindi)

"Hello and welcome to hysteria. I'm Erin Ryan this week semester, Monaco and I chat about the last year and garbage and how to stay happy when things getting worse, then crooked media zone Priyanka Arab. India's in studio, along with Kieron deal and Meghan gaily to talk about crying. And as always the hills will die. Listeners before we get to the show a little bit of housekeeping if you want to submit a hill. Diane recorded thirty second voice memo on your phone, and send it to hysteria crooked dot com. Been also send other correspondents in that direction. But keep in mind that four people besides me check it. Carolina also checks it. So send love notes and hate mail to our personal addresses also merchants in the works, and I'm biased, but it's really great. And also, I see all the gifts, you're treating me people about how merchants taken a long time and I appreciate them and I acknowledge the fact that I'm somewhat owned by them, but it is in the works. It's really cool. I can't wait to see it. Trying new thing where I give shout out to a special group of listeners this week, I want to give shout people listening to hysteria from another country. And on that note, if you're listening to this, I'm currently on vacation, we prerecorded this episode. So if everything went to shit, and we're not talking about it on this odor. It's because I've successfully fled. And I live in Italy. Now, let's get to the show. Hi eliza. ER R G, what's happening? My sister yard G. E G. E G R. Oh my God. I always right. ER g. Wow. There's going to be a callback to this later in the conversation. Absolutely Maistre Monico by Stroh maestro. Maestra monico. It's so good to talk to you. You too. Well, it's summer, which means that, by the time, people are listening to this. I'm going to be on vacation, where we're prerecording a couple of episodes. Yeah. So this is a very special kind of reflective Aaron Elissa chat that we're going to we're gonna use. If you're listening to this. I'm hopefully I'm in Italy. Unless things what terribly wrong. But hopefully I'm in Italy, when you guys listen to this. But one of the things I was thinking about is this is the first we did we did a big kind of spell, I guess, episodes right away that we took a break in January, and we haven't really taken a break sense. And we haven't really had a chance to pause and reflect on the year. So I wanted to kind of talk to you Elissa about, you know, the first episode and what has changed between then. And now do you remember the first episode was their coffee cake involved? Yeah. I made some. Yeah. So I remember Noga. There was coffee cake. But then also is the day that Kennedy resigned. Yes. And then didn't have to chew special episode. We know we had to redo it. We redid it. That's what we did. I totally remember sound like you've got a great recollection. I mean it just it seemed like a moment to me that day even though it was, it was totally annoying on many levels that he resigned that day it was historically annoying, but it was also like logistically annoying for everybody, because we all had to come back into the studio and do it again. But it seems like a fitting place for this podcast to start. Do you think we've been moving in a positive or negative direction since then our podcast or the world both so the podcast definitely I think that our podcast is very special. I mean that sincerely the world, not super positive direction. Now that doesn't mean I think it's going to go off a cliff, but, you know, when you think about the first episode. Owed in talking about Justice Kennedy. That's before we knew the caliber of, you know, Scotus nominees that Trump was gonna put up right? We're going to end up with. And, and so, you know, and then, and then if you think about all last summer, he nominated Cavanaugh, unlike fucking, July or some shit like that. And, you know, we fought so hard and we, you know, he ended up being supreme court Justice and so I feel like it doesn't feel awesome. And what everybody thought was going to happen was like, oh, they're going to attack Roe v. Wade while ES I mean is supreme court has not directly, but the people who hated or stupor ginned up and just doing everything they can, you know, so I feel like you know what? Maybe it's just like it was going really bad for a while. And then maybe in the past couple of weeks. Maybe it feels a little bit better because all the women are running for president and people just seem to be carrying a lot more about women's. Issues, which makes sense since we're like fifty one percent of the population. Yeah. I guess that's a positive. It's definitely we're talking about more women's issues than we did in two thousand seven eight when, you know vomit and Hillary were running. Yeah. I think that that's true, one of the things that upon further reflection on the Obama years when I wasn't involved in politics. I was I was just a snarky blogger toward the end of them. But I, but I was covering politics. I was like, snarky covering politics in kind of like very tentatively, tapping my dome into that world. But one of the things I think that was a downside of the Obama era was that a lot of people who are my age or younger just kind of felt like they could piece out and not really yet not really pay attention. And myself included to, to the extent before I was covering politics before I was like working in media. There was times where I was just like it's fine. Everything's fine and everything's not fine. Things were going to shit for years. Twenty ten was disaster. And we're still dealing with that. And, you know, I think that the good thing about this era. I'm trying to find a silver lining to it. But the good thing about this era, is, is multiple areas. It's there's, there's a lot of good things about it. Among the bad one is that people have woken up and given themselves a crash course in civics. And I think we all know a lot more now. I mean, people who weren't in government before we know a lot more now about how things work and how things can go wrong that we did before, and I think that knowledge of those things arms us hopefully against those things in the future. I also think that to echo like an idea that Rebecca tracer has said a lot is that women have gotten really, really angry and it's been a sort of rising tide of this sort of productive anger. Not like throwing bricks through windows. It's like angry women have channeled it into being productive and twenty eight teen to me. The election. It sort of was as in capsulated of all of these all of these problems and good things that I've seen in the air. Nobody really expected Democrats to pull it out to the extent that they did an in the way that they did. But I think that women who are on the ground, and I think women who are who were running or women who care who are paying attention new that, that, that we had in us to put a lot of women of color, a lot of young women into congress, and to start taking back state houses that we'd lost. So I think like the bad is leading to people being galvanized enough to move towards something good. I just hope that we hope it's enough. We'll hope it's enough and hope that nobody loses their energy, you know, like that it's been since twenty sixteen it's been three years that everyone's been working there s off. And so it's like, you know, maybe everyone's just learn how to pace themselves and realize that it's not a sprint it's a marathon. And you know. Twenty twenty is something for us to look towards. But it's not gonna be the end, you know, even if Trump's not president anymore. It doesn't change what places like Georgia Alabama, and Mississippi and Ojo and Missouri have tried to do at the state level. You in the low end the local level. So that's the thing that, like, even when people are talking about twenty twenty. It's like whoa, whoa, it's not just about who's running for president, like, don't take your eye off the ball like all those people who won in twenty teen have to be reelected. Right. Exactly. And we have to do that, and we have to do it from right of being behind the eight ball. When it comes to a states that have been gerrymandered because until the supreme court does something about it, which they might in the next couple of weeks. Do something about what, what, what constitutes gerrymandering and how legal that is. Yeah. I think that's a really good piece of advice. But at the same time, it's like, don't you feel kind of daunted by, like the idea that yes, we just have to do this forever. How do you how do you stay happy? Like, how do you stay motivated? Let's talk about happy. Okay. So, so I buy for Kate happy from, like fulfilled. You know what I mean? So it's like doing our activism doesn't necessarily make me happy. But I feel like I'm doing something right? Like, I feel like in the of Donald Trump doing something is a component, part of like being happy because if I weren't doing something, then I'd be like, I'm just a fucking rotten piece of shit. You know, right. But for me it's like a lot of things that. You know, like you look now and everything that, that this administration has done like all the protections. They've rolled back not just against people, but about against our public lands and animals and like agreeing to trophy hunting again. And so I do drive a lot of like sort of happiness from China, help the animals that really that like in a big sort of, I'm a good person way. That's something that really gets me going like on a basic like how does Eliza keep herself smiling? I mean marijuana helps. It's getting legal and more and more places. I mean congratulations Illinois first of all, doing, I know. That's you know, that's interesting. The thing that you said about bifurcation, I've kind of done something similar between the concept of fun. In the concept of good. Yes, there are things that are fun and good. There are things that are fun and not good. And there are things that are good, but not fun. And the good in the not fun stuff is the reward of doing I mean, I think I sound like a I don't know like an unfrozen caveman learning about human interaction right now. But I think that there's, there's a lot of stuff that is not fun, but it's good like going out and working out on a day, that you really don't want to is not fun. But it's good eating vegetables, instead of a piece of cake is a lot of not fun. But it's good you know, waking up early and educating yourself on the latest. Fuck ary from the right so that you can adequately respond to it is not fun. But it's good. But that doesn't mean that you should cut fun out of your life. I think my, my great grandfather, who is a lot of fun. And sometimes not a very good person had he had a saying that he would cut us aid was family, which was like you can't beat fun. You definitely have to have some fun in your life. So I think one thing that has made me feel a little bit. More balanced has been paying attention to keeping myself physically active. So getting outside has been really good for me because sometimes it's really easy to get depressed about, you know, this tiny little screen, you can hold in the palm of your hand and it feels like the whole world fits into the screen. And really, if you look up there's like infinitely more space than what is just there? And I also think, like reading stuff that has nothing to do with politics, sometimes or watching things that doesn't have anything to do with politics sometimes as is some. Something that makes me happy like fleabag right now is making me really happy. I've gotta watch it. It's like next in my queue 'cause I just finished. Why finished two weeks ago finished dead to me was same like nothing to do with what's going on in the world? Totally sucked in love doll. I also unrelated Lee find law and order, SVU, very satisfying, because like nine times out of ten there's Justice, and I find that Justice. Makes me happy. Yeah. Like knowing that somewhere on this planet, bad people or getting what's coming to them. Does does, you know, I never used to feel like strong after I washed SVU. But I do now. Yeah. That's true. I guess that's something that writing has brought me especially being able to do screenwriting, even though screenwriting is the worst. Nobody should do it. It's terrible. But it's really fun for me to take like my anger, or my, frustration and fictionalized it and make it funny. Like the show that I'm. We're just wrapping up the writer's room now but the, the always sunny is a really fun place to work because the characters are real in part because a characters are really bad people. And you can kind of do whatever you want to them, because yes in within the world of the show, it makes sense. So writing something where you're just like I'm making a fictional world involving these characters. And this is what they're doing. And this is how the interact, and this is what Justice looks like inside of this tight, twenty two minutes script that I'm working on, or whatever it's like kind of cathartic. It's also, you know, like I said, writing is the worst, and nobody should do it. But it went when it's fun. It's, it's really, really great. And it helps a lot. I think also I've gone back to things that I was like what used to make me really happy like before all of this, and I've basically gone back to, like my seventeen year old cells. And I spend a lot of time up in this place called Columbia County, which is very rural in upstate New York, an eye roll down all the windows in my car. I opened the moon roof. It's like a sort of old Ford, escape and has lot. Of stickers on the back and I just sing so loud and drive back on like country roads. And at the end you're just like what could possibly be wrong with the world, the sun is out? The sky is blue. And I just hang along to an entire set of the Grateful Dead from nineteen. You know that's so funny because I have a similar practice. Except not involving the Grateful Dead nonvoting, ninety two but it's like the stuff I listened to in high school like, yeah, like whole listen to an L God listening to whole or like kind of pop punk that boys told me to listen to. I've been revisiting fhu Gazi and revisiting even like radio pop that at the time I was like this sucks. I'm cool. I really liked same, Gino, who I read discovered, and I was so, so judgy about it back in college. Dave Matthews van. Such a poser. They're just trying to be fish in the dead. Now. I'm Mike driving through the streets. And I'm like, I know. Was that possible? Dave Matthews is a human thumb ring. I mean it's so true. But I was sitting there, and I was like, godless, you're such a like, how do you Matthew? See let's, let's you know, we should do to move toward happinesses. Avoid the negative self talk. I would never call you Elissa only context of good. You're like a good. So I am a good. But like at the time I just really shitty and judgy to anyone. It's like someone said they're going to DMV concert like you're so trite in like a thing that makes me happy when I evolve. And so I consider this great Volusia. Well, let's hope that this country like we as individuals can involve so that we don't have to revolve. Revolution revolve Lucia good. Yes. Very good thing. Go while this is so fun. I wish we could keep talking about being happy and screaming allowed in the car as a way to sort of keep us in fighting shape going into twenty twenty but I guess I'm going to talk to you in like two or three weeks two or three weeks. And please say hi to all my people in the motherland that is actually it's my. Lamb. Okay. Lay the only place where people have pronounced my last name correctly on the first try. Oh really do. I it right. How do you say dramatic? Oh, yeah. That's right. Okay. Who? What else so embarrassing? Dodged a bullet on that one. Okay. I'll say hi to the fatherland for you, Elissa and talk to, you soon phone voyage by. Stick around. They'll be more hysteria after the break. This episode of hysteria is brought to you by sun basket. No matter your lifestyle sun basket caters to your kind of healthy with delicious meal plans like paleo, carb, conscious gluten free Mediterranean, diabetes friendly and vegan, plus quick and easy. Recipes, you can enjoy a dinner full of organic produce and clean ingredients in as little as fifteen minutes. Plus a brand new carb conscious meal plan with thirty five grams or fewer net. Carbs per serving. If you're watching your carbs, finding it difficult to cook, delicious nutrition forward meals. This is the meal plan for you. Full of fiber rich vegetables and quality proteins. These meals are exactly what you need to stay on track. 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First off, we have actor, comedian woman with French writing on the back of her shirt, Meghan. Gaily. It was like I when you said, French, I guess, I'll say show, but then I was like, I don't want to like. What I wanna do. But you did it, you did it. I respect that you brought it. We had a French teacher growing up, who had a southern accent. Why? No, like really. Can you do an impression bones your class? Oh, that's pale. Karen. Next up, we have working actor of a new on a new show that just got picked up, which is so so exciting. Karen deal. Hi, I'm so glad that you're here. I'm here it's been a minute. I know I think there was I think there was a snafu where I didn't get the they didn't actually they didn't send me the dates fire. Yeah. I was like, oh, I guess, that's it. Now one job at a time to do a show Sunday together. Yes. That was that was that was my fault. Okay. That was actually my fault. But I, I let her I let her know them. I always think of you that one time that you said, cure in that you lie in wait, like no Virata. I'm just picturing, you lying in wait and being like I'm not getting any emails. I don't need to go on hysteria. So you just kind of our. Yeah. Just lying. Yeah. That's right. That bill. It's time to go. People have summoned me. Yeah. Well, you've been summoned, and I'm glad that you floated in here if you inches off the ground, it was real creepy this early in the morning, but I accept you as thank you so much. That's why I like this program. And third. A special guest today. Her first time on hysteria crooked media's own Priyanka are a bendy. Hello. Hi. Well having made so good. You're here. I wanted to on hysteria since we started. Well, I love your show and I wanted to be on since he started. So this is really exciting. How have you been house crooked right now? Critics good crooked is busy. Yeah. Yeah. House writing what a day, you know. You know. My editors on vacation right now. So all you. Oh, yeah. Brian has been Instagram, a lot about places that aren't where he's supposed to be. Crazy week but he's back next weekend. Good. That's good. Then you can just totally be dead weight, and let him do all the work. Well, when we were coming up with the topic for today we gave Priyanka as the guests the option. There were two options that we had it narrowed down two and cure, and I'm looking at you, because I'm just I cannot wait for your reaction to this. The, the choices where I wanted to do power do a whole show on power, which I was like that is such a cure and topic power. God. What are you doing? But the other one is something that I wanted to do for a really long time because it's something that every female friend that I have has like an opinion on personal experience with and that's crying. We're just sort of right cry. I like crying so Jane on Indian, I know you're supposed to. Fifteen minutes today, we're fifty fifty shift your body language to me. But I think crying is another way that people express where they stand in a hierarchy power lack thereof frustration. I had a former colleague who used to refer to a specific type of frustrated crying as math tears, which as a woman who was not bad at math. When I was younger, I still get it like it's the frustration of not being able to solve a problem. But anyway, so tears happen for a whole bunch of reasons, especially for women. So I wanted to start by asking this opening question, and I'll throw it to you. I grant cousins, your guest when is the last time you cried and what were the circumstances? Okay. First of all, I'm floored by the term math tears. I've never occurred to me, and I know what it is not about me. I'm just sitting here maze. But actually, this is a great time for this podcast. I feel like a like a season of my life where I'm crying, a decent amount. So I was like, okay. I feel prepared. Yeah. I'm actually. You got like the what's the Lauren from the hills, member, when she cried and just like two little things. Meth wet is in your eyes, but it does. Yeah, yeah. It's like pretty crying. You're pretty crying for you. No. But I was like, oh, one was it's hard to put a finger on it, actually I cried last night, so prepared really well, but. In preparation though. So I wanna be ass back, like I want them to know him a good guess committed. Yes, I cried last night, the circumstances. I was okay. So, I feel like I don't cry because I'm stressed out. I feel like being stressed out makes like a prime condition for you other things to make you cry so super stressed out super anxious. And then the refu- things that happened. And I kind of was like okay like I'm crying, this is happening. And I thought it was going to be one of those things where it's like this is like a five minute thing. And like we're gonna be over it, and it'll be fine. And then ended up being way longer thing. What are we talking here? Twenty minutes an hour nine evening. We're talking we're talking. Evening of two years and evening sporadic, right? Yeah. Right. Like the way ours lost, though. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And your face looks very good for having cried last night. Okay. There's. To tell when you're, you're eyelids are puffy, but I also have a wrinkle that comes out like right under my eyelids after I cry. So I'm like, I you guys probably can't tell, but now everyone's looking. But yes, so I cried recently. So you've been in crying phase. Yes. Do you cure in Meghan? Do you guys have you found that you go through phases where you cry? More cry less. Yeah. No really do not cry cry. But I wouldn't say it's phase oriented, it's just completely whenever I it's a very honest cry. It you're always coming on it from, from the same baseline. I think it's always the same baseline interesting. When was the last time you cried? Yeah, I don't remember but I have a very bad memory. Okay. Or like my own 'human patterns, it's because of all the lying down. I just have a bad memory for. I don't I couldn't like if it was yesterday or if it was this week, I could tell you, but I was trying to think of a time that I cried. I cried in up the beginning of up. Oh, really? Yeah. The one time that everybody every. Came out like nine years. I'm talking about powers are all talking about a time that I felt powerful. Beginning of that would be disturbing. Joe never going on. Terrible. Well, I guess, here let's, let's tie this into the idea of like power micro. What was it? Meghan. I thought it was book smart. But then I realized I cried two days after I saw book smart. I was at a dodgers game on Memorial Day and a World War. Two veteran who's in a wheelchair who is ninety six years old throughout the first pitch. And I just started sobbing text about this. I feel like I saw some tweeted, okay I tweeted about because I just love old people, so so much Memorial Day is kind of like your thing, my thing, you know. It's my pride. Everywhere. And like they're just hats and like I would love to go on an honor flight. Like I just love them. I worked at a retirement community. They're angels. But I was with my mom and dad. And so I was sort of I mean crying at a sporting event is a very, very vulnerable things I was I had glasses on a hat on whatever. But then I looked over at my mom AM, I'd had we're both crying. I was like, all right. We just love World War Two. This is a very like, yes. That's a warm cry. I'm is yours related to. Is it like related to your personal life? Is it related to families? Just general stress related to work things, which is weird to Santa work. Yeah, no, no, no. But, like I would say, I've never been like a big personal life Cryer there. It's just mostly like a stress situational thing. And I was reading some of this stuff that are mazing producer Caroline polled about like situations and power, in crying, things like that. Like I feel like a lot of my crying is not because I want it to be. Sometimes people are like oh like this would feel really good right now. I want a good cry. And I mean sometimes it's like great. I'm gonna watch this movie but most of the time it's like an I feel not so great and I don't necessarily wanna be crying right now. I just in my car and oh shit. I'm really upset and like Ryan Dunn Luciana boulevard. This is embarrassing. Yeah. I would say, like, like if I if I'm in therapy, like I think I started therapy one time, and it was like this, like, actually hilarious. Woman of she was my favorite therapist, but she dumped me she kind of ghosted. She was this woman is an Asian American woman, but it was like the reason I love this therapist is because it would be like you'd say anything you'd be like, yeah. Lie in bed. You know lion. Wait. Like knows project. Wow. That's how yes like USA anything. And it was like a head a really good shit this morning. Wow. Is this what she would always do? But it was like the first session, she wanted, like a like just like a late layout, or breakdown, and it was like after an I, I remember leaving there feeling like really all that felt very because this is a stranger. And you know what I mean it's like after I inner like a I session is a stranger. So it's like I felt very like to vulnerable and I and I remember I felt really really bad for like a while the afterwards, and then I cried, then honestly crying in front of someone you just met is more vulnerable in awkward than having sex with someone that you just met, I think, because it's like, you know, whatever's sex can be like the actress and stuff, but crying is just pure emotional expression, and it's so much more like do you know what I mean? It's so private in a lot of cases at some, that's why it's something we procure saying you do in your car or something, it will in your, there's no windows there. Nobody can look in when you look in drive away. I don't really care. I don't know. You. To face, you tomorrow, or like New York, there's always like people crying on the subway because there's no private places in New York. So you just have wherever you can't you walk, and you cry. So you walk in you eat, you walk in you cry. There's no you gotta do all of it at one. I saw women coming out of a coffee shop went on Wednesday and she clearly just been crying, and I felt myself, like fascinated with her. Like I was like, I wanna know what's going on and like a was staring at her, and it's like that's not what she wants me to be doing. But I felt this need to like know why she was crying. There's when I was, I was walking with my mom when I was home. And there is a boy, why is he getting on his bike right now? I mean I was like, oh, he was crying, and she's like Ono like it was like he was like wiping, his eyes on the lawn. It I will say that when I see someone else cry even if it's a dear friend, always, it's, it's almost. Sometimes you should just let someone cry you know what I mean. But the knee-jerk is like you wanna make it. I don't know if other people you wanna make it better. You wanna make it okay? A friend who went through a very. Sad personal circumstances situation with her with her husband. And, you know, the whole thing was like, just really falling apart. And so, and she was in a hotel room and she was telling me about it, and it was like she's a very, you know, very strong person, but you can be a very strong person and cry. You know, but I could tell how much she didn't want to, and yeah, and it, and it was also like, and then you also feeling like you don't want somebody to like I was surprised at how much my knee-jerk reaction was to be like, don't do it. No, not to know like more like kind of, oh, like trying to make it better trained to a swat it as opposed to just like, let it be sad. Yeah. Something can just thing to sit with when you're like one on one with someone. And you're like, I, of course, I don't want you feel this way, you're like, what, what do I do? But hey over hugged someone or like had someone tell you let it out cry. Like not e. They don't even say cry, but they can see you know, you start to get like the. Yep. Send your voice shakes and I've had many, many instances in my life. And I also feel like I get stereotyped as Cryer like when I start crying in front of somebody, of course, she is. Here. That's actually not who I am. I think I cry probably if I were to take like a Cosmo quiz like an average amount. But I've gone. Eibar yesterday in the role, these Cosmo's everywhere, and woman said that she came from a foot massage, and I was like go to hell. So did you know wanted to fight her? And I didn't even read it. I was just like this is a lie. So I've, I've gone. I remember an instance where I was like living with friends, but I knew the guy much I was living with a married couple. And I knew the husband much better. He wasn't there, and he has no emotional support capabilities. And so I had a terrible phone call and I went inside and I like the wife like walked towards me, and hugged me, and I just saw down her back and then. I hugged her for probably five minutes crying. And then I was like, thank you so much. And we parted ways I mean that was the last. So her, and then I came then, you know, then five minutes later, the guy and his wife came home, and who was that? I thought it was I thought it was her. She kind of looked like her, but it was, I just loved it Meghan. You're like you really people, people assume that I'm a cry, and then you're like parallel to that was I cry average amount. It was a cause MO. So perfect. You're like assume that about me. I know. I know what you mean. I think it's interesting to talk about like the circumstances under which we cry and the ways that they kind of differ, my last couple cries have been kind of run the gamut like I had a World War, Two veteran cry. I was listening to the radio in my car and they interviewed this British guy who had been in the first wave of d day. And listen to him talk about it, and thinking about him as like basically a childlike running onto the beach into gunfire was like emotionally overwhelming for me and thinking about, you know, my grandparents, and my both of my Grandpa's served in the military, one was in one never got sent. He enlisted was in San Diego. And the other one was in the army and just thinking about that made me just like very I don't know. It was like grateful and sad. And like I just wanted to give him a hug. And also, we had like a British accent, which made it somehow. So that was like a warm cry. And then I had like a cold cry like a frustrated cry for, like no reason. I was packing for this wedding that I'm about to go to and has my boyfriend, which dress, I should wear an to pictures. And both of them are floral pattern. You me. Kim dresses. Okay. And he goes, do you have anything that isn't floral, which is fun? I mean, fine, you don't have to like floral, but Amy can I know I know it's a wedding, and we are available to donate those dresses. I was I was I was packing. And I was like stressed out. And I was like worried about sending my cat to boarding of never boarded her. There's all this stuff travel pre travel stress, and that one thing was, like, don't understand. It was so stupid. It was so stupid. It was one of those things well as happening I was like this is I'm engaging in emotional stupidity right now. But I can't stop it. How do I stop this? I don't know. I had a third type of cry. Angry cry. If I'm so pissed, and this is the cry. That's actually I think the worst because you're like this is not Representative emotion. I'm feeling right now. I actually want to scream and punch shoe. But I'm so angry. And frustrated like when I would get in fights with, like my brothers, I would cry and maybe like a little bitch. That's what I think, someone who sees me in a fight crying like you fucking pussy. Yes. Like sorrow like deep sorrow crying like an my and this isn't appropriate place. The other thing is appropriate versus inappropriate places to cry. 'cause we have those, and I know at least I don't know if you feel, but like an Indian culture in my family. I know that it's like people don't generally cry. But then at a funeral it's like Ueli like, like people actually there's, there's they had like a morning thing where everyone comes over and like cries together. And they put like a white sheet down visits seek family. So it's like they put a white sheet down. And then it's like people bring food, but it's like people like talk about the person and they cry together. But I was really surprised that I spoke at that funeral. And it was like right before I went up. I and then when I went up, like I was really, really cry. Like I will I didn't I didn't know if I was going to get through it, and that was a really. Very vulnerable, because it's a room full of people junior people, you know. Yeah, you have to her, and it's like, but I was really surprised by how like. Does something very interesting about the idea of fam-, like like the family or bearing witness. It's almost like somebody bearing witness to emotion in that way. It's kind of like it's like a wedding. I mean, the this, this very private expression of love in a public moment. I feel like it's this like, that's when you have a group of people like witnessing sorrow it's a similar. Yeah. It's like a collective cry. Which is totally different than like the individual like anger cry or frustration cry that you have or like the warm sadness Cryer the up cry, which is the last time. Apparently. No, no. Okay. I thought of a good one. I don't know. I don't know if I have a good one, I this, this will, there's too. So it's like so at my I think sometimes it's funny my when my mom's brother passed away, and he passed away, really young. It was like so he he died and we went to the funeral. And I remember I saw him and I felt a lot of relief and a lot of peace as like oh, he's at peace. Now, remember thinking I was like I was like, oh, it's just like, you know, and and was able to like I was really glad I went, but there is a moment when his mom when they were taking the coffin out when his when his mom who, who, who wouldn't have been able to understand, like ninety percent of the ceremony because she doesn't really speak English. It's like as they're taking the coffin out. She takes her hand and she was like, touches the side of what I mean. Like just touches the side of it, and it was just like such a is such a like that was like a moment when I just remember it like was like a punch in the heart, you know. So that's one. And then the second one, this is a sometimes when somebody does something really moving, like I had a really I was having a tough time it was, like my dad had been sick, and I just got into New York, and somebody was, you know, a partner was supposed to leave me a key or meet me off of the bus for a key. And like left me stranded in New York with all my suitcases for like three hours in this, like diner, and it was like midnight. And I went to the thing I went to an end. The guy was like, oh, is like is everything. Okay. And I just kind of like I kind of like nodded and I didn't mean to start crying. You know what I mean? But it was like I think I started crying, and he was the nicest. He just was like let me get you some tea and like I can keep this place open. He's like you're going to be fined. Sometimes somebody's, like compassion, yet, Tia. And he was like he's like, we don't have to close. How is just like the it was very sweet. Oh, that is really moving. It was very. I mean that was very sweet. And it was coming from a stranger total someone, you know, is, who actually let you down? Yeah. It was a stranger. He was like he was an because I think you see a young girl in New York with all her suitcases in a place. And she's been sitting there for three hours. You don't know the circumstances, you try and fucker usually. Yeah. It was just your mind went there. I was ever had a sue. Case in New York. I was like everything's going to try and fuck me because they think I just got thrown out of my boyfriend's apartment. And they're like, no, she's right? I, I was like the level of compassion that, like, but there's a maybe it's because there is so much like public. So like, because you cry in public. And whatever else there was like the sense of like the cabdriver could see always really upset and was like, are you like the I was surprised at the level of community Fabra? Yeah. In a moment where you feel vulnerable York is like that found it's a lot nicer and warmer, a place I one time I fell down the stairs in the subway station, and I scraped down the front of my shins. I was an address and scraped on the front of my shins and rather was like rather than wait for, like, I eight or whatever I stood up, and I was like, well, yes, I'm going to get on the train and might like blood was running down my legs. And every it was like a was like a short short story that was meant to be heartwarming because like every stop people got off and. People got on every stop. Somebody asked me if I was okay in, like this little this little boy, LA handed me a fistful of McDonald's, napkins and said something to me in Spanish, and it was like everyone was so kind and like looking out for for somebody who I mean I'm bleeding on the train, but it was like everyone was nice. I think that's that's something that you find in, in cities where everybody is experiencing the same reality. I don't think LA is a place where that's happening because we're sort of separated, but it but because I think there's a, an empathy of, like I could have been that I could have been the person who fell on the tray. Yeah. We've all been the person who like, and then it's like what would I want somebody to do for me? I think there's a sense of and everyone's kind of alone travelling on the subway, identify a New York rock bottom when they see that. Girl. Exactly. Well, let's pivot to talking about crying at work, because I think this is a very loaded topic, and I want to start with you. What do you think about crying at work? Have you ever done it? And if you have to what do you, what do you do? Do you just do it in the opener? Do go into the bathroom. I have never cried in the open at work. I don't know if anyone else has here, but I never have I've cried lake after hours like when I'm, but in general, I'm like a solo Cryer like I have not really done the thing where I'm like walking around New York. City crying people have done that before and been like, oh, yes. Like I get a lot of comfort or whatever. I'm kind of not a public crier. So I've cried like after people have left like in an office space near in our old. Where else in the bathroom, that's like not an ideal situation. But like I've never been like at my desk, openly crying crooked. Why are you hurting? You're going to be so nice. On. She's like I've cried here on this table. I've cried in the studio. That's so fun really depressing verse in a ludicrous song. I will cry with you in the back of the Cadillac on the. Of the Georgia Dome. This nobody's fantasy having sex on the fifty yard line of football fields. Fake for yourself. But just on the crying at work thing. What do you think about like have you ever seen? I've seen other people like no one in a direct situation with me, but I've seen like when I was an inter there was an older editor, who was crying. But to I mean someone that she worked with. And you know, I mean I also was maybe like what like nineteen or something at the time and had just really entered workspaces and was like, oh, like is that doesn't seem like something? That's great to be doing. Honestly vine like after it happened. I think like the situation out, whatever and she ended up great. So like maybe it is something that has, like, totally okay. Why don't you think it would be okay? I feel like it something, you're socialized to be like, oh, especially if you are a woman at work like you don't wanna do that. Like you don't wanna be seen that way your co workers, you like don't want to make your boss, feel weird Thurs all of these like. Hard kind of like I don't want to put this on someone else, and I also don't wanna like, feel embarrassed. I feel like that's a big thing with crying. You don't it's like a shameful almost thing, even though it shouldn't necessarily be kind of I'm still very much grappling with that. And I'm like, I don't love crying in front of other people even when people that I'm close with. Yeah. Do you think it's because when I mean on one hand, it's, it's good to demonstrate control of your emotions in a professional environment because if everybody just kind of let everything fly, nobody would get anything done. It would be very entertaining. But nobody get anything done. But I think part of it, sometimes the shame and the judgement around crying comes from the fact that when women externalize their emotions were we feel shame about that. We feel shame around getting angry or displaying anger feel shame around crying, because we make our emotions like someone else has to deal with them and the act of making somebody else deal with. Them almost feels like this kind of internalized thing, we're like, oh, fuck fuck, I made myself somebody else's problem in that's bad, bad. I don't feel guilt like especially if I'm like angry. I don't feel guilty about it. But I think they're repercussion for her for, you know, if you are angry in a certain context or whatever else it's like e even down to like they'll be times in stand up. Like, I remember one time somebody describe me as, like an angry sexy Lewis black mentally as a bad thing. And I was like that sounds so. Marketable. Marketable and then it was like a little bit like it was an executive. And it was like, but seriously should probably smile, a little more should probably make it a little more palatable. And I was like, Bill Burr would never hear that like, and it was just, just being aware that, like, there are reprecussions, especially depending on who the gatekeepers are, who is in charge, or who are the bosses for your behavior is a part of it can also be just like it might not be an internalized shame. It might be an awareness that you're in a society, and that there will be reprecussions and away, you are perceived, because you can't control the way that other people perceive you, I had I was fired for, for the second time from one of my first jobs for this. Just God awful production company, and, and, but it was very sudden, like the, it was very sudden, I had said something I think I hit like kind of set boundaries, which was very, very reasonable with the boss, and it was enough to get fired like the next day because the company was. Really broken? But, but it was like I walked into the office. And I remember I remember he fired me, and I was just I that was a moment when I liked teared up and I could tell he was like, oh, shit like you could see on the bosses face, and, like it was just like I made her upset, or should I have to deal with this. I mean it looked like I mean I could tell he like legitimately felt bad because it like he knew me well enough to know that wasn't something like I would normally do, but that was a moment when I was like so angry. And it was a pretty unjust. It was a pretty unfair circumstance and you wanna be like I'm not crying because I'm sad. I can't work here anymore. I'm crying because I'm pissed off that you did this. Yeah. I was I was like this is this is a what the fuck cry. You know, I also think crying at work like it depends. I think people's like guilt over it depends on the situation like if you get a phone call. And they're like, hey, so, and so passed nannying once I mean, and that was my work and I got a call my. Grandma died. And so I like called the dad actually the dad was home. So let me leave. So I went in there and I was like my grandmother passed away, and I was crying. And so it's a police. But if you're crying at work about work, that's when sort of like the tens of like listen appropriate coming, and if you're crying about totally things outside of work, and I think it's the stigma is around crying about work at work. Yeah, although I do have a sort of exception that proves the rule story about that when I was working in finance in a hated it, and I wanted to die, I was sort of starting to get my toe into writing. But I didn't know how I was going to do it. I was like, I don't know. It was two thousand eleven so eight wellness. Yeah. Eight years ago, almost eight years ago. And so, at this place where I was working I had a Midi review and my boss was like a really nice guy everyone. I worked with was very nice. I the work was just wrong for me. And my media review. I'd burst into tears, and it was not strategic. It just was completely like unhappy, I was just unhappy. I was, and I was being asked if I was happy and the answer was no opposite. I'm very unhappy. And then a few months later, I got a job offer from this website that I've actually ended up working for on the day that I quit. I asked for them to lay me off instead of quitting because I'd been there for years. And, you know, and they agreed partly because I was so visibly unhappy during the mid year review. I still did my work. I still performed just fine, but they were like, yeah, you're very illiquid like for you to be happier. We will. Here's, here's a severance you can go go go be a writer and so that ended up being a good work cry. But I have never ever heard of a work cry. Helping a person get what they want aside from that. I cried in a job interview. Really, what was it for honest way you sick? Obviously. It was to work with it was like to be an actor, basically, at the Indianapolis children's museum. And so they asked me what I was like most proud of in my life. And at the time, I was helping take care of my grandmother, who had Alzheimers. So he started talking about that. And then they were like like asked him question. It was just so personal and an intense for me in that moment that I started crying. And then, of course, I did not get the job because they were like this woman can't be around children. Sighing in the children's museum about nothing kids, do get worried when they see adults cry. It's deeply on mooring, but there's sympathy like come and hug you, I think, you know, they're like, do you have a boo boo? I've been on that before like, are you. Okay. Like I think kids have a sort of, like empathy and are actually warmer to someone crying then adults are feel uncomfortable by it, and less like, oh, I have to make. It's my dry. They tell you what. Shit my pants. We're the same way to do. Also shit, your pants in the children's, but I've shit might be for, and I did not cry. Wow. Congratulations. Here's one aspect of crying that I think is part of the reason that there's a stigma around it is because a lot of people view it as manipulative, like have you guys watched the new season fleabag or the last season of fleabag the first season fleabag, I've been busy? I watched the second season. I've seen the means of the second season was excellent the the first season I did watch. But it's been a while. Don't remember what you're talking about. Well, there's a scene toward the end of the first season where she's talking to the woman that her father has sleeping with her godmother. So her mother died, and her father took up with their godmother, and like she'd just kind of doesn't like the whole arrangement and the godmother is played by Livia Coleman, and she's whole areas, and also sort of, like this, this kind of dippy artist self involved bitch. But so funny, because Olympia Coleman's a treasure, but Olivia Colman in the scene says she starts crying. She like fleabag does. Something and her face kinda breaks into this, like, cry in front of the dad, and fleabag says. Oh fuck. Aw. When she starts crying. Like, do you think that people use crying to manipulate people? Have you ever seen that happen? Yes. More skilled people than I, I certainly like, feel like I can't. But I mean, have you ever felt manipulated by cry? No. Really have such nice people around you. I feel like I've been manipulated by cry and manipulated through cries give some examples because I'm sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Crying in front of a Cup sometimes works. If you're white lady in the cop is a white man. Listen. I shot my shot and I scored. Daily's donate the player fault me for trying. But I've also cried in front of a cop. And he's like bitches is happening. You know. So, yeah, it and you wipe your eyes like gives me my fucking tickets. But I be of put your son. I lost his on and you speed away been like accused of amid nippy late of cry before interesting. I find myself sometimes feeling shame when I cry because I don't want people I want people to understand that. I can't help it like I'm not doing it on purpose. But it's like I have seen a manipulative cry. Yes, I have. I'm sorry. That's why I was asking for for a moment. A moment to think about it. When I was doing Iowa there was like. Like. A group of people it was it was during the Iowa and I was like this fucking white lady, shut up on just joking. It wasn't there. But it was like it was a week. It was like ten days or something. And there was a girl who had a weekly you weren't on. I Oscar for ten days. No, it was like you do it three times. But it was like so it's a group of strangers and then it's like there's a girl who pretended to be someone else to get a second dose of this stuff was, like actually pretty fucked up and then got discovered doing it, and then, like, and then there was like this, like very warm because they're all fucking hippies like this kind of warm confrontation, but then she started sobbing, and it was a very manipulative. You know, I mean it was like one of the most I got caught cries Aiko things I've ever seen. And then it was like, and then because of the way that she was in that moment. It was like then she got asked not to be in the group. And then she was like screaming and crying later, throwing like a massive. Tantrum in this way. That was really. Yeah. It was really an moored. It was very unnerve ING on the show. Fascinate. Yes, she was around the power show. You've seen people like in movies depicting like orphans, and they like, put a hat on, to then, get a second, serving of porridge. But like to get a second, serving hiawatha is so crazy. And then there's a point when like she stopped crying. And she was like she was, like, I did what I made it to, to win. Like god. Damn this just got on sell dark, this Dr Kareem Lee until children do this. I have a couple of nephews were toddlers, and one of them is about to turn four and one's about to turn three and they're both just pure joy. But I've seen one of the one that is my sister's son. My little sister, when she was a baby was a manipulative little Cryer like she would shoot fall and then she'd be fine in the my momma, walk into the room, and she'd be like, like she's just start crying. And her son is just like her. He makes faces that look like her and it's like Mary, you have the child's that you have urged. You don't remember how you were. But he's he's like a doll. He's amazing. But he does do the thing that Mary used to do which is like, cry like pretend to be like be okay until an adult appears and then cry to get the adult to pick them up. I did that in the work in the work scenario. I was thinking there's been times. I've been like the boss or the. Rector and like, and I remember we didn't episode on, like emotional, how women have to deal with emotional labor of other people, and there's been like moments of people being like so incredibly, like they're like offloading onto me. And it's like I just I just need you to fuck in like edit this thing, man. Do you know what I mean? Like it's like I just I kinda like that sounds like a lot is happening for you, and also like you're on the clock and this is four money. So can you like not do this right now because we have limited time together in this space. So it's like I can you know what I'm saying? It's like I like I understand the idea that people should be comfortable with their emotions, etc. But on the flip side of it. You know, I, I remember I've been there's been a couple of times, I've been frustrated or had to deal with it. When I didn't feel like it was fair, fair or my responsibility to kind of I don't like if that was dude. I don't know if he would have been expected to like. To like engage in like a therapy session, if that, you know, engage in like a mini. Right. You know, forty five a hot forty five. What's going on in your life, kind of thing? Yeah. Well guys, I think we'd just about solved crying thing. We figured it out, because we're this is we're running out of time we over. Yeah, I have to it's over, like a good cry. It's not an evening worth of crying. It's about a good forty minutes. But before we end this part of the show, I wanted to ask the table, what something that you go to? When you need a good cry or something that will, you know, is going to make you cry in a like nice way mega do. Simon and Garfunkel bridge over troubled water. Oh, every time I hear it. I feel cleansed an emotional, and I love it, and I fear it for the powerhouse over me, it is a beautiful song. I think the thing that I the thing that oughta medically makes me cry is going to selling good dude, like the last third of field of dreams, a baseball movie about ghosts the comeback alive in Iowa and Kevin Costner's a hot dad movie. It's a whole thing and really otas in it as shoeless Joe Jackson. It's, it's great. It's about can you go back and fix things or what is moving forward. What is whatever? It's so good. It's also baseball in Iowa. I love it. Cure Priyanka I because I'm still okay. I feel like songs landslide time after time which landslide cenex. Okay, mom likes time if your time. Yeah, that will make you cry like a little baby, if you want. But yeah. Those are positive. I feel like you can spin it. You could spit into a positive garage. You could spin it into a negative. You can make it whatever you wanna be. It's like pretty multipurpose but yeah, that'll that'll get it going. All right. Cured europe. When do I if I need a cry? Yeah. What something that reliably makes you cry or get emotional? I got nothing guys getting. Fuck you. I'm helping you. Yeah, I. Yeah, I think Pixar actually Pixar is very good Pixar, general CoCo. They're very like, they're they, I think they're, they're very good at pushing emotional buttons in a way that plot is really like that, grandma at the end like her little singing. Sorry. That's a spoiler. You know what I mean? But it was a little like, sometimes I like I write Pixar I feel a little bit like deputies. I would say Pixar movies can really get manipulated by that. Yeah. I'm emotionally manipulated by the one thing we didn't talk about that. I'm curious if you do have an opinion on an it's not a good thing to bring up right at the end. So I apologize was the idea of white women's tears, like a ton of articles about this, you know, and, or like the idea of, like if somebody is very sad making. Somebody's very sad in like an office space, you know, or somebody expresses form of injustice, and then somebody else starts crying, because it just seems so unfair. But then it's like the way it takes away, somebody else's kind of like, or that makes it about comforting somebody else's opposed to like having the experience. You're having. Yeah. I, I think that's a really important point. And it's something that you notice when there's any a symmetry like the person with more power making the interaction about them instead of about the person that was harmed. So sometimes it's like a man being upset that a woman did something a lot of times. It's a white woman being upset that somebody pointed out that she's being fucked up, or she did something wrong, or getting caught trying to sneak Iowa ska. I think a lot of times, those that the like white woman, tears in and again, iron-fisted air quotes, which is right? I mean I it doesn't mean just like every time a white woman cries, it's a specific type of manipulative crying. That, that is about being caught or called out. I think I think we're even just or maybe even very defensive. Yeah. Like it's like if yeah. The person I think that you said it. Well, it's like if the person who is harmed then has to spend the time comforting, the person who has more power than them, who did the harming right in a circumstance. I mean I have to say that it is uncomfortable. If you're a person who has more power being confronted about the fact that you're acting in a way that is fucked up in harmful, especially if you don't think of yourself that way, and I'm not defending women who react. But I understand the psychology of somebody being like what the uh this is like fucking with my idea of who I am as a person. Right. But done it. He related exactly. But I also think that like facing the discomfort without realizing that it's like growth isn't shameful? Growth is painful, but it's not shameful and to. Got a merch I'd grown in name, but not shameful Aaron Oprah Ronnie. But I think back on, you know, things that I've been wrong about, or dumb, about or not known about and accidentally not on purpose ignorantly done to alienate people or make them feel as though I wasn't thinking about them, or especially like, when I was early in my writing career there things where I was just like, oh my God, I didn't I didn't know but I should have done a better job. You know, and I've always been uncomfortable. And, and that wasn't intention. I'm whatever it was wasn't intentionally manipulative, but still the person that the people that were hurt. Our people have been dealing with this shit constantly, and so they have like this much patience left for it. So even though I didn't do all of the things that made them lose their patients. They still justifiably don't have any more patients for it. And so when I get snapped at it is not my job to respond by crying like, it's, it's something that I've had to work on. I don't think. Was ever like crying when somebody was like, hey, you shouldn't say this about this, blah, blah, blah, I don't think ever cried in response to that, but I'm expanding tears to me, like defensiveness in, like, weaponized sadness. And that's something that, that I think, is an it's like a muscle memory thing for a lot of white women at something that I think we should you have to work to overcome. Does that make sense, yet it would help if I had, like can you be a little more specific, I'm only asking, because it's like because when you talk about stuff general, you know what I mean? Like when you have okay here's an example, I use this example, a lot because it was like borderline traumatic. But I wrote this piece for judge Zabala like six years ago that ended up being shit storm. And it was about how I didn't think sell fees, I thought Selvi is where like aggressively not empowering and just kind of an expression of vanity and I sort of hated how they're getting tangled up in feminist pow like empowerment, like empowerment trademark and I just wrote very generally about how putting. A picture of yourself online is like an exercise in vanity and ninety nine percent of the time. It sort of is, but there's a one percent of the time when it, it's really not. And that's when their groups that are, like, look at me, you have to look at me, like people, disabled, people who are trans like posting pictures of yourself online, as you are living life as a trans woman, or trans man, is like, really important to validating your identity in the way that you're living. And that wasn't that was just an like something that I didn't even think about I didn't think about it. And that was an example of when people were confronting me about that. I was like, yeah. Fuck you, because I was like, I felt bombarded, but after you sort of the hurt and the sting of the shit storm passed I thought about it, and it was like, yeah. You know what this is this is a learning moment for me? Like actually, there are people. There are groups of marginalized, people who really value, having their beauty validated, and it's kind of revolutionary for those groups. So that's, that's a. Example. Does that make sense? Yeah. Nice example. Thank really good one. Yeah. Thank you. Anyway, thanks. Yeah. Like, oh, God McCarron with the examples now. No, I'm glad you brought it up. It's like it's, it's really important. I mean tears are good in tears are bad like all things. And I think that, you know, it's fun to weaponize them to get out of tickets. But then we needed to you to bring it up. Yeah. Like, that's a that's a, that's a learning thing, too of like, oh, we weren't even able to be like, let's talk some shit on ourselves. You had to point that out to us, and I sat here quietly nodding. Making you're always on the shows where it's like, okay, white ladies. Gotta grow, y'all grow growth is was it's not shameful. But it's, it's an it's painful, but it's not shameful anyway. Thank you guys. We're gonna take a break when we come back the hills will die. Hysteria is brought to you by better help. Is there something that interferes with your happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals? I mean, something non-political something, something that is, like, surmountable within the context of your small daily life better help online counseling. Is there for you? Connect with your professional counselor in a safe and private online environment. It's very convenient. You can now get help on your own time at your own pace. 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Look, I have bad circulation in the winter. I need that. Extra layer of warm on my extremities. I promise you, I'm not a serial killer. I'm just cold. Oh, I think I respect that a group in cold house. I wear socks to bed used to have to smear my feet with vacillation at night, because it was so cold and dry. We hit her house with the woodstove. So I am sock wear as well. I don't think are serial killers I feel so bad that she even hunt to clear it up for us. Stereotype, where people like socks equal murder, I do feel bad, but she also said it like four times. I was a little more of a Dexter. Again, the delivery, had, we had me questioning it, but it might have been the tough. Okay, I'll go next because mine's really stupid. Here's the hill die on this week. It's more of a question that is like I don't know how to eat broccoli. Who long? It's tough do I cut it because you can't just like it's hard to stab. And just like put in your mouth holds like you have to open your mouth really wide and parts of it stick out, so you have to cut it in order to fit it, but it's a really awkward to cut it where you cut it because there's so many different parts of it. Yeah. And it just looks really weird. But they constantly offer just offer just regular. Broccoli is fine guys. I don't care if it's a little bit more of a, you know, bold flavor if you make it broccoli instead of broccoli, I just would prefer to not have to like grab the end of the stock. And like bite it off in front of somebody and then put the piece back down on my plate, hate when that happens when things become popular foodwise and they're just very patently hard to eat. Right. You're like I got I gotta deal with this, and the next two years, right thing, I almost think there's something that you order, if you're an actress, and you just don't plan to eat it, but it will look pretty sitting out in front of you. I, I made Brooke Leany last night. I like it better than broccoli. It is tasty. It's really tasty. It's just unwieldy to thing. I don't wanna eat in front of. People. Exactly. Got it. It's like it's a private. Yeah. It's a private like. Going to be in a bathroom sell trying, and eating broccoli and everything else that I'm like. Multitasking. It's really important who wants to go next. Karen, you want to go next. I don't like when video signs their emails, love fuck you love video. They charged me like eighty five dollars for the year and they're like, love video fuck in wrote to them. I grow to vinho very, very white woman thing. I got so angry. I mean but this, you know this about man get sewing, corporations, make me angry. Just in general. I said, stop sending me messages with love in them. It's weird and creepy, your business at once my money, which is why you lead with a veiled threat about why should continue paying you money video vote back. Thanks for taking the time to rain today. I'm sorry of the context of that automated Email caused some stress on your end. I'll be sure to leave a detailed note for product team, letting them know we appreciate you sending along your feedback. Is this even a person answering no person said somebody who uses their name, it doesn't have a wire on the end. It has an I and I'm like, oh, God, there's anything you'd like to add, please, let me know. And it's like, yeah, stop fucking signing your emails love. Not a person. You're not a person. You're what you're, you're a video upload service of video get out of my life. Get him. You know, under this cream court is only a matter of time before corporations can legally love, right? Exactly where we're getting close. Right. I appreciate that. That I don't I hate it when they're like, two cute. What? What? No, no. Yeah. You know, if when somebody loves me, they pay for the applaud service, they do or they give me their password, and they give me discounts in love. All right. Brianca. Do you have a hill? Yeah. My hills in his hot of a take feel unfortunate about it. Okay. My hill, I think, is that Sunday night is the best time or I date. Oh, think like it's like you normally until I had a Sunday. I date. I everyone is shaking her head behind. Okay. We charm and they were all like, nah. It's fine. I think it's great because you can start kinda early you can have a drink. Maybe two, if you want, you have a heart out that Sunday, it's like a good time, and otherwise, you're sitting there, your house, in your leg Moshe it, it's Sunday. Even if you like love your life have like great things going on, like no one's excited about like a day, that is devoted to like your laundry and getting ready for the week is kind of shitty and you spend that time like sitting around maybe watching TV, like, just kind of waiting for the day to be over and not really wanting it to be done. The gives you something to look forward to, to do. And also, if it's going badly, you're like great. It's sunday. Whatever I never under see again, and I can get out of here, like superfast come up with an excuse, just easy to that is when the date is going to well, I with Josh was on a Sunday night. And I think we both strategically planned it, because we were both like okay this is like a heart out. We ended up staying out until the bar close. And then I went home with him and we continued to, like, drink and ended up like slept over. And then I had to go all shit go all the way to work in Santa Monica the next day. Like can you be more specific? We held hands that a sexy Sunday. We well, it was not the Lord's day, that's for sure. But we yeah. Like I went home with him in the next day, I had to go to work, very hung over. And he was like at the time like freelancing and screenwriting. And so he was like by, like he just had this whole day to recover and yeah, it was it was a good date, obviously, because we're still together. But it was like, also it was win Sunday dates too. Well. But it was a. You're, you're okay. Larry, very rare situation. I feel like most states aren't like your greatest state ever. I don't know. I just love her okay was like a red shut up. You really have to she's like too nice to say it. But it was just like, right. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Good point. What a bird. I'm just saying. You know, be careful what you wish for. Okay. Meghan. You wanna bring us home? I've blacked out on a Sunday for state and. Already with you. I actually cried and Mel asleep at the bar for out of the bar, and not that man dated for like six months. So it was the day my grandmother died, and my parents forced me to go on the date still. So there's a lot it so much. We'll do a whole episode on. This man also wants wouldn't let me give him a blow job because he said it was too drunk to consent. Okay. So my hip. Keep going. Hell deeper. I really I don't know if this is a Los Angeles thing I feel like the middle of the country, probably has this down better large restaurants with one bathroom. It's like restaurant the other day, we've got a patio. We've got an indoor we've got a back patio and no the one and it's like that's not enough. There are drinks stations there was a bar. There's lemonade people are hydrated, and they need to go pee, and you need to have more bathrooms. I understand if you want to have unisex, ones that many, many people can go to, but you need to have like four of those, I think at bare minimum because then you just have a line of people waiting in the restaurant to go into the bathroom, and it says it's inappropriate and it's bad high clean. Then if there's only one or two, that's disaster. I know this it's full and these are nice restaurants. Yeah. I think I know the resident Highland Park, no. Is it in at water? No. Move there. Oh, I was civic one that's kind of over by where you live. And I was like, yes, I know the one but no you're right now. I know what you're talking about. No, it's in Los feeless. Oh man. What is scourge? Okay. Well, I'm glad that we all doctors aren't supposed to be. Oh, yeah. The deal is version of you can if you drink strategically, you can just reabsorb it your body becomes a closed system, and you never have to be, you're like a bear hibernating go into toasts. I loved to peak. What's it called ketosis? I don't know if that should have. Quit fun, new word. Okay. Well, that's all the time we have cured in Meghan. Thank you so much for stopping by Priyanka. Please come by again. Got it in scare you off crying. I'm glad none of us cried this time I consider this episode of success. Also, thank you to Eliza. Mestre Monico for calling in, and there will be more hysteria next week. Gun. Down.

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Big Little Lies with a Smokey Eye

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Everybody give it up or Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Here's someone who came to work every single day. And she said she said you know what? I don't care that I work for a world, historic liar, and racist, I'm gonna come into this office. I'm going to put on my suit, I'm going to get fucking ready. Am I canceled that briefing? And then you know what? I'm gonna finish this day out. I'm going to go home. I'm going to Rosaiah myself to sleep to stop the little patter of voices. I'm gonna wake up. I'm gonna go to work. Now care with the naysayers to cancel that briefing all over again. And we're going to go ninety five days in a row without a briefing. Do you know why I'll tell you why some Sarah Huckabee Sanders and what I do is indefensible. I'm Sarah Huckabee. Sanders damn it. I'm gonna make up shit in a briefing. Then be confronted by it under oath, and then say, I know. Just came from up here, because I'm Sarah Huckabee, fucking Sanders, and you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go to Arkansas. I'm gonna keep this fucking party going. I'm going to run for governor of Arkansas. You know why I'll tell you why there's no fairness in this system anymore. There's nothing. There's just the worst people in the world being rewarded for their terrible. Despicable behavior again, and again and again, thank you. That was all taken from the new four two. Sean Spicer's paperback copy of his book. Let's start the show. We have great show for you guys. Very excited about our panel. A bunch of love it or leave it returning champions. That's how you know, you're in for a good show, she's a stand up comedian and one of the hosts of crooked media's hysteria. Please welcome back, Meghan gaily. Meghan. How are you? I'm gonna miss her. Sarah, just the collective joy, we get out of hating her. And I know we'll hate new person, but she gave us a lot. I will say, there's something I do appreciate about Sarah Huckabee Sanders, and I'll tell you what it is Sean Spicer's face and his delivery, his intonation. It was caught in the space between what he thought being White House press secretary would be, and what being Trump's White House press secretary, actually is he existed in a kind of what a Catholics event and not worry about hell purgatory. I dunno. I dunno whatever. Yeah. Purgatory. It's like he was limbo. That's what I was trying to think of limbo is that also a Catholic thing there, the same purgatory in limbo. Are the same can we still my indulgences? Where are we on indulgences that seemed fucking sick ended in fifteen thirty? Thank you so much. Those, by the way, this economy keeps going the way it's going, they'll be back. Yeah. The coke brothers are in the market for some indulgences. Is face lives in this space where he can't believe what he has to say? But he's also is the angry at them or is he Ingraham's losing angry angry? I don't know what to do this. I don't know how to live in this halfway place where everything I do is supposed to be cool when I'm in the cool office. There's an asterisk that's him all the time kind of that bubbling, not Sarah Huckabee Sanders, just can fucking look, you right in the eyes and say, Trump hates racism next question. That's amazing. That's an amazing skill. That's like the next level of when the matrix when they upgraded she's an upgrade. He's we're in for James corden, the good place. And he's the host of the very popular podcast Gilmore guys. Please welcome Demi. Jude please welcome Demi. Did you? Just come on. Just go by Demi. Now, I, I want you to know something ok. I practicing your name so many fucking times before this show. So that when you came out here, I would just say it, and it'll be fucking clean and beautiful, and I panicked, and blew it. It's the effort that matters. And now my insurance long as hell and it feels like I'm getting even more than I would have gotten if you got it, right. That's cool. Yeah. How did you do you want to helpful guide? It's I have it right here. Iraq. I wrote it out. Yeah, yeah. And here's how I worked it out. Did the you by it on, on his on? Did you EBay? I did you EBay? I've often told people that same thing without using the Jewish part. Oh, did you EBay? So here's what we're the Jew came from in here is. I wonder if I didn't want to say did you EBay because I thought that there was a J sound in there, just a slight J sound. Yeah. So I wanted to Judah by it. You know, it was saying it was me saying that is correct. I can't say that. Oh, I see. Yeah. I was just I was like, here's my gentile version. Demi. Welcome, thank you. So nice to be here, everybody. Earlier. I was saying back in the room and I kind of doubt. And when you said give it up for Sarah Sanders. I was like, whoa. What a get. That would be cool. Yeah. I was in, we extended the offers to Sean Spicer once before the day, Sarah Huckabee Sanders leaves that podium, she will get an Email from someone at crooked media offering the same chance that they won't take. He's the host of the show. Adam ruins everything on TV and just launched his brand new podcast back, Julie, whose welcome back Adam Conover. Hi, adam. I can't believe you pronounce my name correctly. Incredible. He did it in the mirror for a while. Nailed it. All right. Let's get into purgatory is for people who. Yes. Tell me died before the birth of Christ and others to loopholes limbo. For babies, unbagged ties babies go to limbo. There are two different places sit this I'm not Catholic. I just know that he said this, in the back of the room, but he said where usually just limbo is for babies. And I thought it was just being like purgatory were the cool kids. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We're in middle school now. No one goes to limbo anymore for faith. Who takes care of them who takes care of the babies in limbo. I think they just I am, I'm not I'm not a priest but I think they just sort of float around in, like a ghostly void kind of like. But are they babies? Yeah. There, the whole thing is there like an age, cutoff like to once you're potty trained. You gotta purgatory. And do you could say, you're not that is they haven't been baptized, but, like counts as a baby. I've just picturing, a big cloud babies on untended. The Gerber farm those guys that Ghostbusters. You know what I mean trap all those babies? There's this real, what are you doing? What, what there's no real babies to be about. Hold on our three levels deep into a completely incomprehensible hypothetical in which at the very last moment, a ghostbuster and introduce, and you're like shame on you. Who gives a shit. Trump is president, pay attention. Let's get into it. What a week. We are two weeks away from the very first democratic primary debates. Yeah. It's how guys were fucking in it. Now, it's no twenty twenty isn't coming. The primaries aren't ahead of us. We're not gearing up for the primaries were fucking in it. It's happening. They're talking, there's a lot of candidates more than we need and they're out there. Mayor gave a foreign policy address Bernie gave his speech about democratic socialism, that did work on me Biden. It did you start quoting one thousand nine hundred sixty FDR. I'm on the hook nine hundred thirty six DR is my sexual orientation. Really? We're actually also seeing movement in the polls, I over the weekend and seltzer famously accurate to Moines. Register poll came out with twenty four percent saying Biden is their first choice down from thirty two percent in December. Bernie comes in at sixteen with Warren at fifteen and Buddha. Judge? Huda judge at fourteen this trend was repeated in Nevada poll, showing Biden, with the lead. But with Warren, outperforming Bernie, I believe for the first time in LA times poll showed a tight race in California with buying a twenty two warranted. Eighteen burning at seventeen with thirteen and mayor p ten as we fight over which candidate will be our choice to fail. A passing the green new deal new Quinnipiac poll. You know what that is? Still best case fucking scenario. A new Quinnipiac poll found that every major democratic candidates polling better than Trump nationally with Biden doing the best, followed by Bernie calmly and Warren. Reminder incumbents, have lost fourteen percent of the time in the last century. So. Right. Keep your heads on a fucking swivel. Meghan. The polls show Buddha, Jim Warren are rising, Bernie and Biden have gone down. A little bit. What do you make of that? I keep thinking about something you actually said I love it so far. I know about we have candidates in our heart and a candidate that are head is like this is who could win. And I think we've all started to merge, those, hopefully and look around and go, okay if we all love Elizabeth, Warren. Then we. Then we can all get Elizabeth Warren, a left it if that's what we all want to do. I know this is the first time I've given this early, and I have given to her because she nights something in me. And when I hear other people clap, it makes me like, okay I'm not alone. And for some reason that is important to me, because I thought I was alone because people, you know, bring up Pocahontas all the time, and it's like, yeah, I thought I was Ariel. You know so like. Can we give her a pass? We've all been a Disney Princess for Halloween. Let's look the other way on that and bond together and give her money because you can't take it from anyone else and hope we can propel her haircut to the top. Debbie Booker Kamla Beddoe Cobra shar. They all round out the next year down. What do you make of where they're at do you think any one of them can use these debates as a chance to kind of make a case? Do you think we're missing a front runner from this group or missing somebody that should move up? I feel like the current front runner is just like in the sense of people being like I'm so fucking burn out on this. I'll do whatever's easiest to be like, well, I recognize the name Biden, that's go with that. And everyone just kind of like checked out, but it feels like of the people who seem to actively try to be involved in. There's like an upswing for people like Warren. And for Sanders and it feels like everyone slow he's just been kind of like local focus on these few candidates. And everyone else. It's like if you make it cool. I'm not worrying about you until we're pass this. It's like everyone's just got mental space for three people. And then it's like Booker still in this. Okay. That's I truly every time I see his name in the news, I'm just like REO Dawson guy, you're still doing this. Okay. But I it's like. He dated Rosario Dawson. That's what's notable about them to me. I don't know what he's doing politically. Clova char was mean to people at one point. Yes. Okay. Beto had a really weird cover on a magazine and Buddha, judge. There was a pitcher going around of him. Yeah. Okay. You guys like Buddha. Judge the last thing him in my mind is there was a picture going around and Twitter where it looked like he was floating. And I thought that was weird. And that's it. Everything else, my brands like what's he up to? So I just feel like mentally, I'm so I'm so focused on these top three the bottom like zone. Like you're all not really gonna make it unless something changes either to sink those top candidates to make you seem like a better choice because it does feel like we had a bunch of like vanity candidates for so long of just like you, you know this guy he's exciting. We all kinda love them. And then it's like when they didn't stick around or like stick to their guns on certain things we just kinda went there. There's someone better. So you'll go on, like four th on the list, and we really need you. Yeah. I'm part of the problem is right there running for president is kind of a good gig in terms of star building. Right. Like that's clearly part of it. So is there just some kind of like party or event like a like a debate that we can put them on where it's like, okay? Now you got your big star turn and everybody quits except for the top four. This because it's get you got what you want now get out of here. You know what I mean? Because library chat pretty. As opposed to like, we all took the test. It's like all right. An agent made a call Howard show on board. They're all showing up to get their picture taken on the step and repeat. You know what I mean? And that's fine. But after a point, it's like a logjam at least Howard Schultz had the decency to hurt his back and take opiates and Saint bars. You know, realizing what you just said, I would like to take this moment to announce my candidacy for president. So Adam, we have these debates coming up in the Republican primary in two thousand sixteen each debate was an opportunity for another candidate to kind of have a moment and basically rise out, get the light and heat from the evil eye of the media, and then just crack like a poorly made vase and account. You know, like just like oh, wow. You've sexually harassed people in your insane. Okay. Audio's or actually. No, you're then saying sexual reser who gets to be president. Okay. I midway through the analogy realized things were worse than I thought. But you were about to have these debates. There will be twenty people over two nights. Some of whom are people who have a are in the top tier of these some are people with incredibly long shot at being president. What do you think built a Blasios has to do? And up question. He's gotta bring pizza rat to the debate. If pizza rat shows up that's worth a few points. Bill, the blows us candidacy makes the least sense because people in New York don't like him nobody he's got like what does he have a twenty percent approval rating in New York? A poll came out, I believe this week that showed that in New York City, build a Blasios currently has a lower approval rating than Donald try. Held his hands like he saw hook car hit a bird. That's. The. Yeah. Because his approval rating is low amongst every category, and Trump's is low amongst every category. But republicans. Yeah. And so Donald everybody hates to Blasio in New York, everybody hates him people live on him as he walks down the street. It's, it's weird. Why does he still keep doing? I don't know people spit on me when I walked down the street, New York too. I just don't understand it at all. Why he's running doesn't make any sense. He would he wouldn't run for governor was running for president. Yeah, it is very frustrating to me that we're about to have a debate on that stage. We'll be Marion Williamson, but not Blick from Tanna, who is the governor of a red state who expanded Medicaid. It's like I get the objectively of having rules. That say all right. You must have one percent in the polls or this number of donors for the first debate, but he's a sitting affective governor of a red state. Can we have a rule where it says, if you're governor of Montana, you're allowed like a lot of places have rules? But then, you know, you know, the owner you get in do the Democratic Party that tilt to the favorite for Hillary Clinton did that go away. We had a rig process. We're Debbie Wasserman Schultz with their thumb on the fuck and scale. Always was if Democrats, you have to rig everything. Meanwhile, I can't get Bullock on this age where we got a crystal lady, and bucking, the despised, mayor of New York. I'm staying unbelievable. The answer your question the only way, even could get any attention because there's ten people. So obviously, Bernie will have some they'll say, some fiery by war, and we'll have a we'll have a fiery thing. I'm sure that she'll say, maybe someone else will say something that's a good line or whatever. But then for the rest of there's so many of them. So little time they gotta have a fucking left shark moment or something to old. Okay. Something has to someone wardrobe malfunction. A stage way to fall down a hit him in the head if they want any attention. It is very frustrating too, because in the past few days. So Bernie gave and made an argument today. He made an argumen