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Good evening. Thanks for joining us tonight, the survivors and loved ones of destination bachelor party turned deadly are fighting for tougher regulations in Costa Rica after a whitewater rafting trip took a tragic turn ABC's Adrian banker on why they believe it could have all been prevented. It was supposed to be just an amazing time within five minutes. It was literally two three days of nothing. But great memories and within five minutes, literally everything just turned upside indescribable grief. Now floods Luis BELTRAN and his closest friends consciousness after the tragedy that would change the lives of teen men forever. I thought it was having a heart attack. I was lifeless. I couldn't move my head. I couldn't my arms my legs. Every I hit rock coach to kick up air swept in. Swept in what was supposed to be an ideal destination bachelor party ahead of beltran's upcoming wedding turned into a complete nightmare the raft before it folded, and then just pull this down from the section of the water trip to Costa Rica, one that included a much anticipated rafting excursion turned deadly after their rafts capsized killing four of their friends to groom's brother Sergio, Lorenzo or hey, Cosso or Nesta Seatte. And Andrea Stennis who they call Andy brother, but I lost. Because all these guys. You've. Costa Rica lures tourists to it's beautiful shores with promises of adventures like zip-lining and river rafting. It's a place over a million US tourists. Visit annually making up the majority of all visitors to Costa Rica was this a freak accident. Or was this something that could have been prevented absolutely could have been prevented. I mean, they could've told us. Hey, this warnings should never been on. That river known anybody. We didn't know any better. Their families are demanding answers and action asking pleading with Costa Rican authorities as to why the group was allowed to raft in such unsafe conditions if they would've told us that there was an alert. It would have been very simple. Hey, guys lived is an alert here. Go back. Yet on October eighteenth when the men boarded their flight to Costa Rica, they say danger was the last thing on their mind multiple times during the trip several including me was you know, this probably one of the best trip for there's been a little bit of mistrustful year. So like this was like a big relief for me to spend my friends. It was the time of their lives. They were together on an adrenalin fuelled fun packed adventure. Such a good group when we finish the Torah. I'll stop them like finally sat down and took off our helmets. Everybody was like, wow. What a rush. Everything would change on that fateful last day of the trip. The group excited is ever as they arrived for a rafting excursion guided by a local company on the popular neuronal river. Sony, where we were saying, so we didn't think there was rains. We were looking forward to it that morning Costa Rican? Authorities reported weather advisories and alerts warnings. The group says were never told to them by their tour guides on vacation. You don't really think something's going to happen to you you let your guard down. I mean, you never think of anything happening. And neither did we. They say they waited on shore for several minutes the tour guides delayed the launch of the rafts due to water levels as we're seeing that we're getting our stuff together of the told us that we're going to have to wait because the river liberals too high or something, but wait it out because it might have dropped drop within a couple of minutes. And that's exactly what we didn't. We we wait out. They came back. And they said, hey, we're ready to go which it. Okay, perfect. From your take off point. You can't see section. We see that it was flat. But two minutes in is a big right Bank. And then pass that Bank is when we saw ultimately what we're going to go through and how many minutes for you inside the rafts before it's took that. Turning. You all got into the water probably about three minutes, four minutes. And describe what happened next three or four minutes in when women survival try to air and thin. And then for me every time to hit rocks kickoff to air in this swift in survival. The current was so strong. It not only carried them downstream. It pulled them under trying to grab a hold of Iraq or ending. I was near us all are members of once. My brother was sitting behind me. So when we hit the water, we kind of went under together, and he was hanging onto my life vest, and I was kind of hanging onto him. And within the midst of everything he kind of we just slipped from each other the men described being swallowed up and spit out by the intense currents blinded by the water all of them say the river's currents were strong enough to rip their clothes and shoes off and leave them breathless when I got the shore, and I knew what I had just gone through. I I was very worried. There's a chance that all of us are going to be okay as they attempt to gather. What little strength? They have the search begins to try and find each other with handy for most of the time. And most of my energy was helping Andy while I was in the water. He was on the raft while I was holding onto the raft. The raft. Flipped again. I never saw him. Again. I saw the thirties hold his chain in a bag, and they wanted to keep it as evidence, and I I got up, and I I I grabbed their from him. And I said I said this is going to his soon to be found his fiancee, I am I said, no, this is this is evidence. That's when obviously I got full confirmation. When I saw his chain in all five men lost their lives that day, including one of the rafting guides questions remain as to whether the rafting company was even a credit, the Costa Rica health ministry, responsible for issuing licenses to rafting companies tells ABC they can't comment because it's an open investigation for some members of the group, including Marco Cosso. The most devastating part was yet to come contacting the parents of those who were lost first of all the worst of my life. The hardest thing in my life was calling both of my family's Janet Dennis lost the young man, she raised as a son. Andrea who they call Andy. She says the families are far from having any answers as to what went wrong. So this day. I really don't have any answers little bits and pieces that you hear from the other boys injustice of no kind of safety measures while still grieving. Parents survivors are adamant that new guidelines and rafting warnings be put in place for what has been a largely self regulated industry. I one for the other mothers to know, what really is going on there. The res that they take when they do these kind of tourism. We wanna get help from the US department to help us. The the best possible way. Just today. The State Department confirms a section on adventure. Tourism was added to their website in response to this incident providing tips for any tourists considering a visit to Costa Rica just a month after the tragedy. The trauma is still very real race of hands on who has had trouble sleeping census, raise of hands. If you've had flashbacks of being under the water or of trying to pull somebody from the water while fighting to erase the nightmare in their minds. They go between sorrow and joy as they remember the four who didn't survive, we all lost brother, son. Confront fall a cousin a father. So it's it's something you don't see everyday Sergio, the oldest of the group and the brother of the groom he was just very humble, very very quiet very himself. You never heard them complain or Nesto driven entrepreneur with big dreams. He made those dreams how he was Andy described as everyone's best friend was going to propose to his girlfriend after the trip. Dependent to do it. When we got back and avenue. And hey at age twenty two he was the baby brother of the group of people. He touched his age is just amazing closer now than ever before the survivors wear the same shirt to honor their friends and cousins and brothers or Nestle which was and the integrated the the other line, which was my other cousin. Andy Sergio, and George it was just the way we represent them is living in that moment. They hope to most represent them by doing something to help warn others from ever going through what they're going through like if we can save one person for this entire tragedy. One person is watching this. They decide you know, what we're not gonna book that Trimble. We're going to do a little more research if we save one life than our friends die in vain for Nightline. I'm Adrienne banker in Miami. Florida. Markle has a long history of using her celebrity status for advocacy and humanitarian work and in her first, six months of marriage to Prince Harry new ABC documentary chronicles, how Markle is modernizing the monarchy. On the eve of thanksgiving, the hub community kitchen in west London is getting a guest chef of majestic proportions. The duchess of Sussex Megan Markle and apron covering her burgeoning baby belly visiting the local kitchen located near Grenfell tower where that tragic fire broke out last year. But as any oil knows you've got to be able to switch it out just days earlier, she and her husband Prince, Harry dazzle that the annual Royal variety performance. Megan Michael's new life, all chronicle the navy's new documentary. The real Princess diaries. When you look at the Duke and duchess of Sussex, there is an enormous prestige clean that was of a very talented says to love. Jets for me become the Duke and duchess cuddles. You wanna hate them? But it's too cute. So you love it. Muggy Sony by the American dream for. She even that Harry. I'm you. That is now just magnified on the world stage just by being mixed race American actress divorce in these are really unconventional tones when it comes to talking about the wife of prints in the UK. Right has arrived. It was in a word, really magical. Was the choir? Well. Small slaves in America's antebellum, south those royals. They have never seen a black Bishop in Windsor chapel talking about slavery. They didn't know what hit them Kriens. Okay with it. Everyone should be okay with it. And then right before their first, Royal tour, and even bigger announcement Broussard, generally couldn't think of a better place to announce the upcoming baby. Duchess Meghan is expecting a child. Vamos Sussex, everything I have been go by this is a family that for centuries has been made up predominantly white European. So here you have this child who has ancestors that British royalty and African American slaves. How powerful I feel so proud to live in a city that can have so much diversity. I felt so neatly raced. But as the newest member of the firm, she's not afraid to take a few risks. I will never forget Meghan Markle official entrance to the scene. I'll never get over that as long as I live. It's very life of a Royal. Mondays cheer their gracious and fiber Queen. Oh. Princess rate was fabulous all the design. It's a breath of fresh when Kate something it sells out instantly. Now, we have the making effect might big of the kikes. I have been speculation kind of the Markle sparkle as it's called is lighting a fire. Yes. Perhaps she is upping game little bit because sunny as a little bit of competition. But I think Kate sees it as competition working together as family to have disagreements about. Oh, yes. I think if anything Kate as a little bit more of a homebody, and she's more happy to turn. Let Meghan Markle some of the spotlight, and the scrutiny offer was she brings is Hollywood glamour that has a Papas I think she really needs to make himself much. What Princess Diana was which is the Princess of the people, and she's carrying on the Royal legacy of her mother-in-law in a way, perhaps she would be most proud neck in has that human touch was say famous. Fool Princess, Diana had a real sense of compassion. It's almost like Diana's legacy continues. HIV does not make people think just to know. So you can shake hands and give them a hug often. We know a lot about what members of the Royal family think however with Megan because she had all these years where she had no idea that she was going to become void, we know loft about what she thinks. Yes. Of course, Trump is divisive. Think about just. Female voters alone. And she was very very savvy outspoken young woman real feminist women. Need a seat at the table. And in some cases, where this isn't available within you know, what then they need to create their own table involved in politics. If you remember the Royal family women's suffrage is about feminism. But feminism is about fairness when she gave one of speeches and Fiji. She had a notes with at all Henderson scribbles on before she went up, everyone should be afforded the opportunity to receive education that they want, but more importantly, the education that they have the right to receive. Meghan is the feminist Princess of archery, we say, look, there's our American Girl over there shaking up the monarchy monarchy. For hope whose hope the Dutch fanatic. Is there is something we all lacking into days zero in America, and in so that you need to connect with the public in a way that the rest of the Royal family has never been able to. It's already becoming clear that Meghan, exactly. No time me, Harry, no time me what the Royal family needed. But what the public needed a long while? And finally tonight one New York family has much to be thankful for this holiday season. It wasn't emotional homecoming for one teenager with a rare skin disease on Staten Island arriving in a new home built with him in mind. The Stephen Siller tunnel to towers foundation, donating the brand new smart home to help the fifteen year old live a more, comfortable life. His previous home was hard for him to navigate I've waited show long to be independent, and I can't believe. That's sensible. The family got the keys to the mortgage free home giving them a new beginning. I'd also like to thank my family, my parents siblings because they deserve this just as much as I do for John there truly is no place like home for the holidays. And that's not line. If you ever miss an episode during this busy holiday season. You can catch us on Hulu. Thanks for watching have a great thanksgiving. We are really strong women. People women have to say, and that's us. That's what makes the show so good ABC's the view available as a podcast with Bill. Berg, Abby joy Bejart's. And Megan McCain who's anybody who wants to make it to the next level in politics to come on the show. Up to all of us to continue the conversation on apple podcast on the favorite podcast app. Every weekday afternoon.
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Vogue Royal Wedding Podcast: What They Didn't Show on TV
When you have an experience the expansiveness yet. You haven't experienced the next generation of Samsung galaxy a cinematic Infinity display the practically blurs the lines between your screen and the world, we're an ultrasonic fingerprint ID unlocks your world and the program camera sees it like you do and in all day intelligent battery optimizes power to your needs the Samsung s ten s ten plus preorder by March seventh and get free. Galaxy buds limited time only terms apply. Welcome folks. Royal wedding podcast. I'm your fill in host for this session. Vokes dial editor Edvard siemian. And here with me today is contributing editor Alexandra Macon and living writer least Taylor. Welcome. Ladies. I had word, and I do understand that you have both just returned from Windsor England. What a journey that was. It was amazing Alex dream team headed to Windsor England for the Royal wedding. And we got to experience it firsthand which was for us. Royal enthusiast dream, come true. So we have so many things I think we wanna talk about I don't even know where to start. I'm excited that you're here. I'm excited to hear all of your stories. But I question did it live up to both of your expectations. Yes. Definitely did. I think it went above and beyond. It was just so magical to be there in Windsor to watch everybody. They're taking it in. I really kind of. I just I treasured every second of. And that's not an overstatement. So when we talk about the monarchy, we use the term, pomp and circumstance a lot and not being at a lot of these relevance. I didn't quite understand the pomp in the circumstance. Just just what that was seeing it firsthand. They're the best event planners. I think in entire hands down. Can ally agreed like just the amount of precision and moving pieces in just the spectacular nature of it all is and the horses. We're gonna get to my favorite the Windsor. Greys? Simply majestic they were. But before that you guys were in Windsor, did you snag any merge? Royal wedding merge. All right. Did we got we got masks Queen Elizabeth masks that might children of really enjoyed wearing since. And what else we looked at a couple of bobbleheads and things like that tasteful Union, Jack, which I waved around the entire day understated flair for the Royal wedding. So neither of you. Brought back that Meghan Markle Pez dispenser. I'm sorry heard. I'm very her the coolest piece of Mersch that came out of this Royal wedding, by the way. So let's start from the top. Let's start with the gusts before we move into like all of the majesty that happen later on we had some big name show up to this wedding. And very surprising name show up to this wedding. George clooney. Yes. I think hands down. She was best dressed. I loved her. Look the surprise for me was Oprah. Yes. I mean, we know that Oprah knows everyone. But like, I didn't really know she no Meghan Markle and Prince, Harry, nor did I. Amal Clooney and Oper were in custom Stella McCartney dresses, actually, Oprah's had to be remade twenty four hours before the ceremony as Gayle king famously posted on her Instagram because it photograph to white, and so they made it in a more of a blush town. So that it would be more complimentary Amal's with marigold. It was stunning. If you haven't checked it out at this point, go to vote dot com because it is definitely worth a look on. The Oprah note, though, it was reported recently that one reason Oprah was there is because she's conducting an interview with a Meghan duchess of Sussex's mother Doria Ragland. Yes, I've been reading that rumor as well. I am hoping it's trail because I would love to hear from Megan dishes obsessive smother because throughout this. She has been such a calming presence in someone who has stood by Megan side throughout at all. And I would love to hear from her. What it is like to have a daughter that is, you know, becoming a Princess of the United Kingdom and what she. Was thinking when she was sitting in that shirt because it was just the camera was focused on her a lot. And it was really interesting to watch her take it in at points seemed like she was close to tears at other points to really be enjoying the sermon. And so I can't wait to hear from her from her point of view. And in her own words, what that experience was like, I agree. I mean, she was so poised she was wearing for for our listeners that didn't know shoes wearing a mint green custom Oscar de LA Renta coat and dress that and it was obsolete. Stunning. Completely flawless in. What you really want? The mother of the bride to kind of you wearing especially to an occasion like this. It was a nice nod and foil to let's say Her Majesty's like lime green coat, which was just so cool. What for you kind of touched on it a little bit, Alex? What for you was most special? I guess about the ceremony because there were so many moments that I feel like we're I for weddings. But then also just for Royal history. I really loved the way they incorporated American traditions. I think, you know, having Reverend curry speak and give the sermon was really incredible. And it was so moving in so touching and then having the choir the kingdom crown choir performed stand by me. That was amazing. And you know, I mean, really moved me to tears. It was incredible and standing outside of Windsor Castle with the crowds. At that point. When we were seeing that on the screens above us. Everybody started singing along with the choir. And it was just such a moment. It was really really incredible. It gives me goosebumps same for you. So my favorite moment actually was when Meghan walked down the aisle by herself and leading up to the wedding. There was such drama, unfortunately over Megan's father. Back and forth about whether or not he would attend the wedding. And then Kensington Palace, sadly confirmed that he would not. So when she walked down that aisle alone, though, she was almost shoe so confident, and she looked so surreal and happy, and it was such an amazing moment to show that even with all this drama that you know, Megan made this walk. She made it at own. She proof that she didn't need anyone to give her away. That's an outdated tradition that she is this modern woman, and this is her day and forget the past look towards the future. And I thought it was such a beautiful moment and such a powerful moment and then Prince Charles joined her on the second half. And that was also a great symbol about just how much he's been accepted into the Royal family that was going to be my no love the fact that Prince Charles who was celebrating his seventieth birthday earlier this week. Happy birthday Prince Charles. Quite a celebration. I do think it's very cool that you saw the monarchy really break with tradition and kind of just embrace her as her and walked down the aisle, given you touched upon it. A little bit of lease some of the family drama, and I don't wanna go into too much tailed their coat of arms was released this week. Yes. For the duchess of Sussex, very cool not to overuse that phrase. But it is. But there was some drama. There was some drama yet again holding this. I'm just curious because you guys were both on site. And you are heard from other reporters, you saw the fans the Royal super fans in everything do we think that going forward Meghan duchess of Sussex, Harry, all of them are kinda going to be left alone from Meghan previous life. Let's say as an actress, I think that the palace will be much more on top of shutting all that down going forward. Now that she's fully within the fold. I think that they will, you know, exercise every possible. Ability. They have to make sure that this is not an issue going forward into to kind of ensure that the gossip, you know, is shutdown essentially, it was funny. I've Lou into London. And I was wondering if this whole family drama was going to cost a shadow over the big day, and whether or not there would kind of always be that small dark cloud in otherwise beautiful sky. But when we got to Windsor, Alex, and I were talking it. That was not on anyone's mind at all the mood was so joyful and Evan was so excited, and everyone was so excited to see Meghan becoming part of the Royal family that I think that this drama, I think will be left behind in the past and won't kind of fall her around. I don't know how you feel. Well, I mean at the same time, it's not like it's not like the royals are without their drama. So if it does continue to follow it follow them around, you know, so be it drama on both sides naturally. So let's talk about that moment though. We're Meghan really became the duchess of Sussex ended it was when she stepped out of that car. And by the way, I have to applaud her. I don't know number one how she got into that role voicing their cameras staked outside and some. She just like mine she's flipped in car in that. There was a camera cut. I know this crazy again, and then Doria some. How managed to get out of that calling out which would different one and yet again and the children were in the car children just to hear a Mulroney twins? David Copperfield, if you're listening, please to us how all of this happened, but getting back to the topic at hand Meghan stepping out walking up the steps of that church in that Jeevan she owed couture dress by Claire wait Keller. You guys were there. You saw it in person. What was it like in person? Because for me when I saw it. I know others were like, oh, that's it for me. It was the blind. What you wanted in duchess in a Princess, totally agree. It was there was no moment of. Oh. That's it. It just it looked a hundred percent regal, and it was gorgeous. And I also above all kind of feel like, you know. Yes, this was an amazing fashion choice. But at the same time likely said the mood in the town was such one of celebration that it's almost like the fashion was put on the back burner for a second. Because throughout the day. You really felt like this was about love and this is about. Two people from different backgrounds coming together and being accepted and that felt so special and just kind of overshadowed everything else. I think it all worked in tandem. I don't wanna say that the fashion. I know you never would. The one time where I you know, I almost would I would say it a little bit because I really felt like it was a celebration of love. And I it was palpable. I think that's beautiful. My one issue, and you guys were both there. And I think she failed at her duties as whatever maid of honor, Jessica Maruni when we saw Kate come out in the McQueen by Sarah, Burton pip up. You're gonna talk about the I know I had laid out the veil rain. And so you had that photo perfect moment before she stepped into Westminster Abbey, and it was flawless when she kind of looked back. Exactly. And we still use those images. Today Meghan doesn't have that. Because somebody was too busy worrying about those children. Right. Well address was three tiers of organza underneath you need to write. We may talked about this previously. But I think there was some concern about the children and then behaving on their way up the steps over three of them. One could have true. That's true. That's the rumor has it that the moms were actually Aleida did. Yes. They were where they needed the moms three moms to crou- all the ten children into the church. That's a lot. Is a lot of children and the youngest was too. So it was it was ages. I think three to ten three had you had a wide variety of ages. And allow that they were so well behaved I'm sorry. I still think it was on Jessica mall Rooney to leave. And even during the ceremony there were moments where I kind of one of the male to be a little bit more symmetrical. It isn't it wasn't. It wasn't skew. I did notice. Doria might have been looking over at at one moment because there is a don't remember if it was CNN or NBC they zoomed in on her. And she kind of gave a look like I had the same Doria's like it looks good. But it needs to be perfect. But what do you think this dress means for fashion? I mean, what it goes back to what you were both saying before I think in choosing the first female artistic director of von choosing a designer from the Commonwealth. I mean, she's British and she's won numerous prizes for her designs for British fashion and Scottish fashion houses and incorporating all fifty three Commonwealth into your Vail. It's it's smart. I think what this says is she's going to use British fashion and female fashion because she also sell McCartney another English female fashion designer for her second dress, which we'll talk about later. I think it's cool. I think it's it's Meghan celebrating and championing women in in a new way giving female designers, equal footing to their male counterparts and on such a huge global scale. I don't remember who reported it. But afterwards clear wait Keller and Stella McCartney were obviously like increased searches by a bazillion percent. Obviously. I'm not a mathematician said that's not real. But like it just goes to show, I think her effect on fashioned and her affect in terms of trying to promote female designers. Ralph and Russo engagement portrait one half is a female designer she Victoria Beckham. I mean, she's really trying whether it's conscious or not, and I can't imagine it's not she is doing a lot to to celebrate female design because you know, I love male designers. Do think it takes a woman to understand specifically how will woman wants to feel including and I think she got that. Now, what did you think of the fit because a lot of people have talked about how they feel like it wasn't tailored properly. Correct. I think had they seen it laid out properly from Jessica Rooney than it would have been. There would not have been any type of this conversation. I think it fit her flawlessly. The battle neckline was sick. And I don't know if you guys noticed because you were already there when she checked into Clive didn't she was wearing a rely on. Yes. I love that. And. She looked so Chilton credible and. But I think she was testing out how people would react because it was a similar Netflix trail in a navy in in midnight, blue exactly so I think she was like, oh, let me give this a test run because there were rumors that were other dresses. I don't know if that's true. But I'm happy with the end result. I think I love the Cartier, jewelry, the TR the order of the splendor. Which was perfect. I think it's my favorite of all time. Yes. So that TR had now it's up there who do you like better? I mean, I do have to say I still have a special for the loves not one. I mean, there's just something so magical amounted. This though, the diamonds were on they were gorgeous. And like that's what I interesting that hasn't been seen in public for quite some time. So when all the rumors are coming around, you know, this wasn't even mentioned a lot of people thought she was going to wear a TR of from the Spencer family Crichton. Some people thought shoes going to pull the Princess Margaret and make her own, but she chose Queen Mary's. Bandeaux TR which hadn't been seen in. I mean, I'm no, no historian. I think decades at least from the kind of mid nineteenth century and by picking TR that no one had really seen. She really made it our own. We didn't associate it with Kate. We didn't associate it with Diana. We didn't it with even Queen Elizabeth. And so now every time we see that TR. We're going to think Meghan duchess of Sussex. Did you see how Queen Mary originally war it? Yes, she weren't more kind of like across the forehead. It is worth Google. I would check out Queen Mary wearing splendor. I cannot believe. Should we talk about Kate? Now, I loved casebook. Now. Did you think it was white upon first sight, or did you know, it was thought it will light yellow I thought it was a light yellow is a hybrid between. White an awful night air. That's how that's how I did. It. Actually, I thought a different guest with keta. I was watching it like four gazillion hour in the morning when I started the friend of hers in that pink dress with like the flowing sleeves. Yes. Yes. Because all I could see with pink dress. And I was like, oh, she wore the mcqueen's. She were to Pippa, right? Then I saw she worried different McQueen, and it was not the same human. I love this. I think it's cool that she wore something that recalled what she'd worn before in the past. But that it was in new right? I know a lot of people were giving her flak for wearing the same thing. I think that's ridiculous. I think that's one thing we should be lauding. Our Royal family gray, our Royal family, everyone's Royal family for is rewiring things and and being cost conscious, but also style conscious. It's like how you wear it. It's not like she's wearing at the same way. Every time. I'm happy to see that she's kind of steered away from the wedges and moved more towards this dilemmas. Again, love good he'll moment. So, you know, can I talk about my favorite fashion with the wedding. Yes. Lee. That's that's what we're here for. The reason I ask permission slightly lowbrow to tell and that is because some Twitter user, go back to know Pippa. Okay. Wait before you get to yours. Because now, I'm dying to know. Let's talk about pets because I know so many people compared to Arizona is t- can. Yeah, it was beautiful in floral. They did it was a beautiful dress from an English label as well. And it was very affordable. It was like ninety five dollars. It was the girl's pregnant this is like not her wedding, right. Right. Deadly pregnant right to cover. I'm sorry reportedly pregnant, it was a cute dress. And I thought it was very appropriate. I thought all of the Middleton's looked. So Elise interject please, tell us, I don't know. How many listeners have watched the Harry and Meghan lifetime movie? I have. Yes. I have. I am still waiting. I'm going to watch it this. Well. Well, the actress who I guess the mega the fictional Megan Markle, whereas a self Porsche dress to meet the Queen and some eagle eye Twitter users saw that not one but two people at the Royal wedding where wearing that same self-portrait dress. Which is just unbelievable. I asked since you both seen it. How do the Queen react when she saw fictitious Meghan wearing said cell phones. This was whoa Queen. Yeah. This is a very very warm and in real life. Well in the movie, she was clean. But in real with a means, it means, she was I'm like a hundred explain she was she was very very there was no she was super accepting of Megan and wanted her to be a part of the family immediately. There was no shade. Once over over. Now, I question whether or not of that nature would like said dress onto guests at that wedding. I'm sure she noticed. I don't know. I don't know if the Queen has seen the lifetime even identified I like to think that she has cheese set down with Gordon petting her corgi, and then, you know, having a bowl popcorn and watch it with Prince Philip and they loved it. But yes, so you wanna know who one of my style stars was that the way to prince George killed it in those trousers with that ruffle jacket. It was amazing. They make those for grownups and was his outfit. I know the girls outfits were also designed by Claire from she Moshi. We're the boys to know they were a model of prince Harry's uniform. They all dress them like a mini mini soldiers Prince, Harry, essentially, so Prince Harry was wearing the his blues and royals coat uniform and they made kind of mini versions for the pageboys to wear so prince George within a mini mini army uniform. Speaking of prince, Harry's wardrobe he cut a dashing figure at the after party frog Morehouse with Meghan wearing Stella McCartney as we've addressed. Diane green ring. All right into Jackson, Alex. And I we saw the after party. Look, we saw ring hunter finger immediately. Is that Princess Diana's? We weren't sharing. We're trying to figure it out. And so then we decided to call Buckingham Palace and find out ourselves you call the day of the wedding that a little route we got transferred a few times I called like basically like the Buckingham Palace operator. And I said hi, this is at least from vogue, can I talk to the press officer on duty. And they said sure, and they connected me. And I can't think in Powell spokesperson answered I said is making dishes wearing Princess Diana's ring. And they said, yes, we can firm that she is great. I do feel for those people that are working not. This was their Matt gala. Good point making a point taken. So I do wanna talk about the look and everything she was wearing a white crept itchy. I believe Sela McCartney. She was wearing an aquamarine ring, which you guys addresses from Diana. I thought it was cool that it matched the exterior of the blue juggler ING and the soles of her custom shoes. I thought that was a big win for all who else were Brissman. Yes, right shoes. He has in their initials. Carbon is like a little keepsake. That's right, which is so lovely. I have to say that after party sounded like a raider Schorr George Clooney getting behind the bar. Sereno each. Dancing with both Meghan Dutchess Essex and Catherine duchess of Cambridge. I mean with two duchesses and then gonna go home with them home. The rumor mill about the frog more reception is going wild and just from my own enjoyed. I'm believing all the rumors every crazy thing that they say happen. I believe happened. Disclaimer that vogue does not believe all of the rumors just so everyone's aware just me because it brings me joy, it brings me joy to think that James corden showed up a Henry the eighth costume, probably not. I don't know why you would want to be a Henry costume at the wedding of the year. But you know, what it's a very entertaining site for me to think definitely I want to talk about the invitation because not to figure the polo player and his wife Delvina were attending the wedding. And they also attended the after party. I love that. We're calling it enough to evening. Evening was prince Harry's. After after party invitation was very different from that. He had posted to Instagram, and I think it was subsequently removed. It was kind of a painted bridge. And it said h nam. I'm not not like sorry. I know how that just came out. Not like the rand obviously for Harry and Meghan. Tuck me more about like the food that drink the scene because I mean, like all I got us ends of was the fashion and Serena Williams served up ace Valentino after killing it in for socks Valentino speakers. Right. The sneakers so she could Dan. Although I saw a lot of girls. Switched into slippers. Suits people. Correct. Switched into slip Meghan may have gifted them. All those shows. And she gave out bracelets. Yeah. Something to her little gold bracelets, their initial which I think is lovely and very they're very affordable. But talk to me about the cake. I second because it looked like it was Malti level rain. So the kick that you're going to serve at actually the lunchtime reception in Windsor Castle and John performed. Yes. That was a lemon. Yes. Elder flour cake, and it was made by violet cakes bakery in London, and it looked I wish I could have a slice. But there we go for the evening. Not as another moment where they kind of infused an American tradition as opposed to doing the typical fruitcake, which is which is nice championed. Women. Corrals acre. Evening reception. We're still is starting to hear details about the menu. But I kind of loved that was on them. Almost like a carnival atmosphere. We're hearing that there was carton. Con candy Saul's, right or you just said carnival atmosphere in reference to a Royal wedding. It's not a carnival the after after party was certainly a nightclub atmosphere. Yes. So I was reading some stuff that went really late. And then there was a secret after Prince, Harry, we're talking the man is already anything. That's true. And to that point make sure you check out on vogue dot com. One of our writers. Bob went to Mahyco, which was one of prince Harry's old stomping grounds, he might still be going there. It's a club in London. But it's well, it's a fun. It's a fun story. You'll get to like she basically out for Prince Harry on the night of the wedding. But yet the. Evening reception. Also allegedly had some. Kind of. I think it was like sliders, like burger sliders. Apparently, the so house hospitality group had a hand in it. Because we all know so house was an important place for Harry Megan's courtship. That's why Nick Jones was at the wedding. I saw photo of him. Go took me like all. Weeks afterwards, but my favorite rumor from the evening reception is that Serena Williams killed it at beer pong, right? Yes. I have heard that. And I also like the idea that there is loses their. Takes back to my sorority days. I was about to say this sounding very hot. Like, there's one thing that Alex canyon firm. Sadly outs were not invited to the eating reception. My it might must have gone laws in the mail, but it's fine. But we did hear fireworks coming from frog. Morehouse? So which was really outside to see at that point. We were so tired barely move amazing on that note. I'm just I just wanted to get your final takeaways on what you think we'll see next from Prince, Harry and Meghan duchess of Sussex. They just had their first public outing the other day, and she looked beautiful in that dress. Oh my gosh. Can we talk about that for a minute and talk about that for sure it was a custom-made goat dress? She worked with tomorrow Mellon stilettos. And to be honest. They are required. New royals or royals in general are required to wear nude pantyhose. And I think Meghan duchess of Sussex did a very good job of kind of incorporating fashion element into her looked without making it look. Working girl esque, shall we say, but yeah. And apparently the designers website crashed within I think forty five minutes of her wearing that look restocking amazing. And it was also a Philip Treacy hat sorry to include right anyway. In terms of what I'm hoping for for the future. I hope that they go on to do a lot of charitable work together. And I think that they are just an amazing symbol of the modernization of the Royal family. And I'm really excited to kind of see that go out in the world and see them go out in the world and do lovely things together that kind of benefit humanity is that too lofty. There. There is the potential for this to be really big and to really make an impact and for her to really be a role model for young girls out in the world. And so I'm excited to see that happen. I'm excited for Prince, Harry and Meghan Markle to shake things up. You're going to say to have babies that to that to question? How long before you think there's a little done in the oven? I wrote she's going to have one in two thousand nineteen I think so too. Definitely I feel like first quarter. We'll be looking love that the more Royal baby is the better they make reading so much happiness into my life. Every time I see Princess Charlotte little wave a little I feel like part of me just feel so happy. But I'm ready for Harry and Meghan to shake things up. Harry is definitely the most unconventional member of the Royal family. You know, when there was additional keeping a stiff upper lip. He gave a soul Baring interviewed. A Newsweek we've already seen little small changes prince Harry's wearing wedding ring a lot of the men in the Royal family. Don't wear reading wings kind of an old Etonian tradition. Not to but Prince, Harry is bucking that blue blood trend and is wearing one alongside Megan. We see that Megan has put that she's a feminist in our official, Royal. So I'm excited. See kind of what this new modern edge. They're going to put on the monarchy. 'cause I think it's going to be something very special. Well, I think she's forcing into where the wedding ring to because like every Englishman, I know does not really wear wedding. I think she's kind of forcing him, which is fine. A little man jewelry number one on that note. Thank you, everyone for listening. This has been the vogue Royal wedding podcast with Alexandra Macon and Taylor. Make sure to subscribe. Meet the next generation Samsung galaxy to demonstrate how the new wireless power share works pay close attention on this side, the new galaxy on this side your friends phone by just putting both phones together. Your new galaxy starts moving energy from your phone to your friends phone extending the battery just like that the Samsung galaxy s ten and s ten plus preorder order by March seventh and get free. Galaxy buds limited time only terms apply.
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Meghan and Kate, Reunited
Hello and welcome to in the limelight. Fanfares entertainment, pop culture podcast. I'm dusty Baath. Andy, I senior writer, and I'm here with Julie Miller. Andy Kerr senior Hollywood writer. I mean, the limelight. We analyzed the incidents of pop culture entertainment and celebrity from the past week from the crash ins to Kate Middleton and everything in between on this week's episode. We have so much Royal news to get into we last week where off an all sorts of places, we're actually gonna talk a little bit about where I was because it is relevant to our topics today, but we have so much to dig into Megan Kate, you actually had two appearances together since we last recorded and Meghan as so many of you messaged us had another departure within her staff, which we are obviously very excited to talk about as well. So let's dig into this. Let's dig into this. Josh first, let's get into London. Now. This is my first time talking to Josh since he got back, and I'm so curious whether you spotted any royals went to any kind of landmarks Meghan Markle landmarks, how was the trip? Yes. So. I was in London for few days. I remember, I think I texted you Julie like the day before I was leaving realizing I needed to make sure I paid some respect to Meghan while I was there. I did a few coarse kind of searches. It's hard to know, exactly. How to honor her I feel like in London? I am pretty happy with what I did though. Which is the first night. I was there. I went to dinner at let me make sure I have the name of the restaurant, right? Buco to Lupo is the name of it. And it is known to be one of her favourite London restaurants, and it is on a bunch of the list of like Meghan Markle's London Hans, and it's kind of like a talion sort of a little fancier, but I wouldn't say like out of control, but very like fresh foods, very small portions the order a lot of things, and they said, she makes secret covert, ROY. Runs to get food there. So I kind of had a weird premonition that it was gonna work out. Well, for me because it was the same day the same day she made that I think it was the day. She was like one of the vans. She's been to Sony events the past couple of weeks. But there was a an did first time she in Kate went to the same thing. And it was like a daytime event. So it's kind of imagining the Cheddi get all dressed up for like, a noontime van all the royals were there. The Queen was there at the palace, and that she was going to turn to Harry after and say, let's just go to Boca like get some food. Like, we'll go early. So people won't really be around. So I went for five thirty reservation because that's all I could get a off. And I sat at the bar, and there was no sign of her. But so the story this is like a letdown of an ending dodge. I kind of like a casing the joint sort of scenario. I think the waitress thought I was insane. I will say the food was great. I could imagine her going there. But I did not see her. I have to say when I got this text message from Josh I'm this took the name of the restaurant for Buca Pepo that like talion Shane restaurant where I think I went to homecoming dinner like back in kits Berg, and I was very confused. I was like that's Megan's favorite restaurant in London this chain. But how was the decor inside? It seem very Meghan. It did it seemed especially. Oh, yes. Well, see. So I just typed in the name of the restaurant on all the top things that come out if you used to follow Mark on Instagram, you know, she loves the talian food and all Italy, Boca DeLuca the restaurant. He frequented London before she was a Royal. And according to L U K rumor how. That she still dines. They're secretly the restaurant. Also happens to be one of the best Italian restaurants in the whole city. So it's not shocking. She's still returns. I took a photo of my appetizer. Not really sure. Planned to do with that photo. I didn't post it to Meghan Meghan. I tried to take it. I mean Tex to Julie now, and we'll get a live reaction. I felt like that. I framed it in the way, I thought Meghan would a framed it back in her days of posting. It was delicious. It was like a spaghetti carbonara sort of like little appetizer portion. Yeah, I think it definitely seemed like her. It was all very. Everything was like, a very whim wasn't whimsical per se. But it was very like homespun. It didn't feel like super fancy like you had to kind of be on on guard sort of you know, what I mean? It was more like you could relax a little. But it was still very nice. Okay. Just sent you that ties there that is such perfect Meghan Markle framing because it's it's ki- isn't doesn't have the complete bird's eye view, which I think is not cool. It's very chic. It's exactly and it looks like you had some sort of glass of wine in front of you. This is perfect Meghan. Classic meghan. And that does look delicious e- so proud, Josh. And so touched that you made that tell them to one of her favorite. I know. And I was only in London I short period of time. I did see a few other sort of memorabilia, there was a lot of if you notice that whenever you went into kind of like an airport shop or any sort of like tourist little hot kind of thing. Always had some sort of Megan Harry memorabilia there I was going to buy a mug, but it was too difficult. I went to Barscelona 's well before he came back, and I just couldn't figure out how to get everything along. But I should have this happened sort of I think like right was us about to fly to London. The another aid has left now makes it for or third. This is the third right? No. This is the will force employee. There was also one security. But I love how this timing lined up. Like this announcement comes in just as you're on a plane into London. It's like it's like you almost new somehow, and you were headed there hope with some sort of resume and hands. But it was reported that another staffer Megan's assistant private secretary, Amy pickerel is leaving her role Kensington Palace. A source told bizarre dot com Amy's leaving after the arrival of Meghan, Harry's. Baby duchess will be very sad to see her go, but is excited for her as Amy as exciting plans ahead, including spending some time broad go. Amy. I love the Amy's going to do a little eat. Pray love for herself. Amy had originally wanted to what Meghan would want to do. I feel like like the freedom to travel. Almost adding insult to injury rates. So back to the statement from the palace Amy had originally plan on staying until at least the end of the year, but with the baby coming it makes sense to help recruit someone now who can pick up when the duchess returns to her official work. They will definitely stay in touch and Amy will be on hand for any advice and help that is needed in the future. I love that a source told people that the two were very close in the split was very amicable. I have so many questions about like the nature of their relationship. And what constitutes closeness between the Justice and then aid? It's also interesting because I hadn't read the statement until just the full statementl. Now, they they really went overboard cook. Because maybe I guess because of the previous departures to make the sound extremely friendly. Like, I just feel like I can already feel I can see the kind of PR summit that happened before this people the story went out because I feel like they definitely want you to think that like Meghan was like by girl like, you know, like was so happy for her to leave giving her recommendations or where to go on her eat, pray love trip or something very very serious to me because if fourth person fourth Megan staffer was putting in her notice, don't you think that the palace would have offered her like some sort of raise or entice? Sment to stay just that they didn't have to deal with another rumor of a department. Hi, this is like a high profile one and one that if Meghan really did like her. You would think it'd be a really sad like stressful one to leave? Yeah. She's there's so much transition. She's had in the past year between her new Royal role now moving and having the baby surprise, they were like, we'll give you a TR on the on the DL or something. Sweden the deal for of what if I had gone and just showed up at the palace. Like addition for the replacement job. That is the hallmark movie. I want a need in my life being on the plane. I mean, honestly thinking about it. It's such a missed opportunity of my part part me on the plane. Amy pickerel the signing leaves now is like no aids. Like, no one in her office me showing clipboard with banana, a loaf of banana bread. Like all different. My -application written out on a banana, the banana message handed over to Meghan. Stand at the palace until I get an audience with them. Nice flowers. Maybe I feel like in some ways you did apply to the universe that you went to the rescue. I had this feeling in my, you know, bones that Megan was gonna meet me there for the job interview. Well, maybe she was tied up. Maybe like the first act break you find out there was some miscommunication. And she was there on the wrong time. Maybe that's also, you know, these people are all wear the narratives that like Amy must have known what her leaving was gonna look like to. I like to think that Amy went in there, and she had a negotiation. Maybe she asked him to double her sound. She didn't expect them to let go she put on her working woman suit. And was just ready to like, make her requests and Lasko for broke. Why shouldn't she? And then they they decided they weren't willing to play ball. I guess that's the narrative. I I also I also love that source told the daily meal that Amy's departure is very sad for her colleagues as she is really a really popular member of staff. I'm so curious what the interior. Politics looks like inside the palace, and what makes her popular with the other staff members is it that she's like hilarious. She brings in brownies every Friday, she cooked herself as she the first one to organize like drinks out. What do you think high feeling does a very interesting you've mentioned something like this before? But like reality show to be had about the the staff for the Sussex is like there's so much drama clearly with this day today circus, and I feel yes, it sounds like people really liked her. I don't know, man. So she, of course, join Samantha Cohen and leaving wants Harry Megan's baby is born. I love us weekly. Like people was very diplomatic. As was Harper's about not kind of naming the body count since Megan's become the duchess, but us weekly did not refrain very much pointed out that it was the fourth Megan person to flee its. Seems curious to me also that every single departing aid has been named first. And last name aside from the spotty guards that we are Josh. Or does that also because we all remember Melissa gate, and that one was weird because we knew there was a departure than it was Melissa. Then I think we got the last name then this one the second one Samantha the panther. Guess we knew right away. Yeah. It does feel like now, and then this would fell, but that one was a little weird too. I feel like they weren't quite ahead of the narrative. I feel like it came out. Samantha Colin was leaving this one felt like they were ready to try to control it fully, right? Exactly. They have the information which is, but I don't really know if it necessarily softens that so much the narrative if there was some sort of movie about all these ex as like meeting up at some sort of Greek islands like mama Mia style. Yelich I one club or something. Also, also, what do they all do next? Like, I'm curious. I need the follow up in one year. Like, I need to know what Melissa Samantha now Eimi are all going to be doing and their next jobs. Like, where do you go from this? I soon they all sign NDA's or something. I mean, I can write books or anything. But like, I just feel they almost have these crazy stories the three of them. Yeah. Agreed. The three of them must wanna just I feel like that group tax between the three of them must be the most like fun group text there is so they can all actually like talk about what's going on for real. I know if anyone has any information on the these women where they are now their whereabouts or just maybe very affordable PI that Josh. And I could hire that'd be very much appreciated. And obviously if you're familiar with any of the three of them in college friends, maybe with Amy let us know. Let us know Melissa enough time has passed you can just come on the show. I feel like no we'll once they announced Amy's exit people s weekly pulled up all these photos because she was always in the photos right next to Megan whenever she was coming in now the events in poor Megan was like smiling, but poor Amy looked so stressed like I really think she needs that that abroad trip. It's a stressful job. I'm sure. We all want to do the right thing to keep our bodies healthy in the long run. 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I know as well as nonprofit executives Angeline mir-mira, Chris and Jarrett and Julia Gerrard they all discussed women's challenges and their hopes for the future before it began the charities Twitter account announced that Megan had been named vice president her husband Prince, Harry was named the president of the organization last April. So this all seems very I don't know by the book, maybe like nothing it doesn't sound like the sexiest of events. But boy did Megan deliver on the wild quotes, the panel, chairwoman and mckelvey asked Markle. How's the bump treating you? Josh you which one. With that question. A little weird. I thought like yeah. Obviously, we're up for any throwing any question any subject, basically. But that was a little house that bump treating you to a pregnant woman. I find a little strange also very cash. This form you mix. Casual in the jargon of house that bump treating you. I don't know. Okay. Anyways, the duchess replied, very well. It's funny. I don't really know. How to do my Magon voice? I just realized very well. It's funny. I've actually been joking in the past few weeks and get ready for the most Magoni turn here. I'd seen this documentary on Netflix about feminism. And one of the things that they said during pregnancy was I feel the embryonic kicking feminism I love that. So boy or girl, whatever it is. We hope that's the case with our little bump. I mean, I can't think of anything more Magoni than quoting enough documentary about pregnancy that refers to the embryonic kicking of feminism of the her baby bump, right? I know it was she just waiting for the right moment to bring up that documentary. Also, if you're going to bring up the documentary, whoever that filmaker is I would be enraged. They did. And actually name drop. What the movie was? Yeah. I actually am interested in that. Like what was his documentary though? I have to say this made me realize, and we'll get to our other quotes them second. She has like there's so much stuff. She's been like bottling up that you wants to say that she's wanted to post about and wanted to reference like I feel like she had that quote, ready to go. She wanted to bring up the documentary. She wanted to bring up that particular way of referring to pregnancy. Like, she's looking for that platform to speak, and I feel like that's why this panel even happened. Right. Also, what was Harry doing? We'll Megan had that documentary on what do you think it was like checking basketball's or like, I don't even know what he might have been watching. Like not paying attention. You name me on his phone. Oh, here's what I actually think. I already watched it while Harry was like out playing rugby or polo. Then she was like I wanna watch it again. And you know, that thing when you make your like person, your dating or whatever has been in this case while something with you. And you're like watching them to see their reaction. I feel like she was watching Harry to see his reaction, and I think he acted like into it because I just feel like Harry's. So on board with this whole thing at this point. But I didn't share answer. But maybe not I hate that. When you're like someone's watching you to see your reaction, I hate that same here. She was also asked about Twitter. This is another Magoni response. Just you wanna go with it against. And you're in the Meghan mines today, if they think Meghan how much of a British accent. She speaks with these days. And I was like probably a lot. I feel like she must have really adopted it. But I'm not going to do that my quoting. Okay. So she was asked I guess just what if she looks at social media, right, right? My personal decision is not to feed into negatively and be more caused driven action. Based for me. It's a tricky one because I'm not sorry. They asked Pacific looks at Twitter for me. It's a tricky one because I'm not part of any of that. I don't look at it. Sorry now for me that is my personal preference. But I do read the economist, and we should note that the panel discussion was moderated by editor at the economist, which I. It was a quick save by her part. I think she actually read I don't know. I don't know. But I feel like she quickly realized that's that's like the savviness of again. I feel like she realized quickly as you was saying she had to say that also would seem strange. I'm very disappointed that means he doesn't see the in the limelight tweets about her. Though, do we I only believe this somewhat in that. I think she definitely looks at Instagram. I feel against her vibe, she likes kind of the photos, the recipes inspirational quotes, the vistas Twitter, I could see her doing without at this point three feels the negative space. I feel like I feel that way sometimes too like Instagram some more positive place to visit. Absolutely Megan also made a point of adding that she seeks out journalism, that's really covering things are going to make an impact. So of course, she listens to this podcasts. And she said that backstage we were talking about Tanzania and the article the economist just did like, this is what I imagine every conversation is kind of with Meghan things like that that are really talking about how the role of women is really shifting and changing. That's key focus your energy. They're non stuff. It was perhaps muddling you down. Josh, I feel like you. And I both take a lot of inspiration from this. Last piece of advice. We need to focus our energy on the positivity and not stuff that is perhaps muddling, yo. The no bad energy that we her mantra that we latched onto at the beginning. It continues to come back. And and continues to remind us you've gotta just strip it all away and focus on what brings you joy in life. Julian also good at that. So good that do we think that? Harry knows what the lost. I I love. Julia so much that the last question, and this is just do you think Harry knows that the economists says? I do not think he reads that. I think he knows what it is. I feel like what do you think? No. I think are you're exactly right. But I was love for Alex back or Pat sage act to host some sort of game show where all the royals have to compete in challenge about things everyday people encounter in face. I know I always am the whole thing of like how celebrities monitor maybe I have too much cynicism. But I just can't I they all basically look at a lot of stuff like how do you not? It's the human impulse. Like, you have to be such a I don't know enlightened person to not look at stuff written about you. Or like wanna hear people are saying about you? Or look at comments about you. And it's just so hard for me to believe that even the people who don't have public. Instagram's or Twitter's. Looking in some way, especially if like you used to be on it like Megan was, I don't know. I just feel like it. It's not it doesn't seem so hard to imagine. That said they have all this money and power and can do so many more interesting things look at social media. So maybe they just don't care what anyone thinks just. I don't care. Okay, shoot. I just realized I have to leave in ten minutes for doctor's appointment. So we should okay. Let's get section before. Time runs out. Okay. Let's leave that in please. Okay. And Meghan have two appearances together on. I didn't really looked just like Magon taking a page out of her new kind of inspirational words, I tried to look at social media much on my trip in Europe. And it was nice. I guess it was hard to stay away. But I did and one of the first headlines because there was so much Royal happenings when we were gone when I was catching up to see what I had missed. I saw this headline K Middleton Meghan Markle squash feud, rumors with the kiss. I was like. Wow. Julian I really miss like the major news. I have to say this headline makes them promises that I'm not sure the story delivers on. Like, I read that. I'm thinking Madonna on. She. Police headline from online, I don't know. Okay. So they I mentioned they made an appearance earlier in the week that was sort of weird. It was a daytime event at the palace with the Queen. We never saw them really interact in the same photograph the palace posted all these photographs and they were in both of them. But you never saw cater. Megan look at each other. And it was weirdly like Meghan in the background. Okay. It was in the foreground. And then there was this video that went around Julie. I'm not sure if you saw it where kind of looks like Kate was looking back at Meghan. So some people are using that as evidence that they had like some house spoken to each other. I you can't really even tell what exactly went on. If it was a little weird to me, it seems like a cold energy. So that was like the first appearance then on Monday, they went to the Commonwealth day service. So this was their second joint appearance thing they're both at in a week. And this one was a much different. So as E puts it they were spotted sharing a double cheek kiss. Inside Westminster Abbey Williams happy to see Meghan to William greeted her with a double cheek kiss as well. This is insane. I never would have expected. It would be in a professional context. Reading about two doubled cheek kisses between normal adults whoever lated to each other. But this is. Life. I have never shared a double kissed. Anyone remotely liked anyone who even attempts a double cheek? Yes. So they sat down at the service. Kate William hairy Magon and Katie Nicholl on the podcast in December. She reported Vanity Fair, they might not have a huge amount in common. But Kate has no issue with Meghan. She wants them to get along not just for Harry sake. Because two Royal sisters in law at logger has wouldn't be good. And Kate knows that for Kate. It's about keeping relationship professional and putting on a show of togetherness. So and Katie Nicholl reported the Kate was the one who instigated this kind of warm interaction at Westminster Abbey. It's not always been easy. Sorry. Such a pro. She said, it's not always been easy. There have been issues behind the scenes, but Harry Meghan wanna leave on good terms, and Kate especially has been making a real effort. There are no bad feelings. And I think he was keen to put an end to the rift rumors. And then Julie I are new champion who we need to get on this podcast. Judi James Judy spelled as J U D. I as in dance, she is a body language expert. She folk to cause the Paul and don't ask me how I laid it on this article. But Judy James body language expert said I want you to James the follow me around and told me what like people in my life. Think about me what a job just kinda monitor people in a riff on. What you think of what they actually mean to each other? It was clear Kate and Meghan were keen to signal bonds of warm friendship today rather than the either distant or over congress it displays from the last couple of outings, Judy James explains. Adding that Meghan seem to be the one trying to reignite the spark while Kate made more active moves towards her sister-in-law. Julia imagine being described in that way, making active moves towards friendliness towards someone. We we really underneath those Joshua's has an all caps. Can we please get you James on the show followed about by about fifty exclamation points? I mean, what analysis what a name what a spirit even from this read, just I love everything about her and Judy James. Let's not forget that name anytime soon. Judy pointed out that this is a major change in their behavior from the outing on March fifth which Judy James ascribe. You also like I'm always referring to her full name when even named like that it has. Started Jackson Maine says that when you become famous people start calling you by two names, Judy James described them as distant in the past. And that there were quite a bit of side is from fans. Do the undeniably awkward vibes? So Julie Julie no relation to Chaim duly. Do you think God, I'm really losing? It do you think that this most recent appearance where they did the double cheek kiss? They looked at each other. And the service does this mean anything to you, do you really think it was Cape being strategic or Megan being strategic or do you think things are actually all good between them? Now. I think that Kate is such a pro she knows she's gonna be Queen one day. And she is not putting a foot wrong. She's taking all the right steps. She's fractional even with people. She hates and can't stand. I get the sense that Cates. The kind of person who's going to greet them with a smile. She knows what her role is Megan has caused so many waves already. She doesn't want to add. Any additional ones. What stands out to me? Those the fact that Katie Nicholl does not mention really William and Harry's relationship if that's changed at all. I know they were sitting together. But it was a little an actual, you know, what we've definitely talked about this before. But there's we're not double standard if that's right word for it. Or to dramatic the lake. It is weird to me. Like, I was looking at the photos of all four of them this morning, and William and Harry are in the middle. Megan Kate on the ends, and like William and Harry barely look at each other. And they look almost frosty like they're not whispering. They're not like laughing. There's none of that. And like I feel like if but no one mentioned that obviously, I don't know. It's just kind of weird like something's going on. I feel like maybe between them. And that's what the issue is which I know had been reported before we need see Katie Nicholl back on the podcast what she's heard about them. Yes. But this was I think also going to be the last appearance Katie noted that both of. Them would be at before. Megan sort of you know, has her first child. So it'd be interesting to watch. Right. It's an interesting to hear when Doria hosts that second baby shower, right? What we need to figure out. And if Kate will be involved in any way, I feel like they're both making so many appearances recently that it's like to me seems like Meghan must be so treated Morocco trip. She's doing all his appearances. She's in her third trimester. I I would be exhausted doing all that not even being, you know, under the scrutiny. Princess Diana's energy. I feel like Diana would have staged a fun photo op to really the two of them. 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