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Professor Files Lawsuit Over University Vaccine Mandate
"Welcome back by friends. I'm dennis prager and a professor on todd. Zoecke z. y. W i c k by a professor of law george mason university and a fellow at the cato institute in august believe it was august. Let me see here. you wrote a piece in the The wall street journal was august professor. There why gogga's that's right down is so you wrote a about why you're not going to follow your universities. Demand that you get a vaccination for cans covert in order to be able to return to campus and you cited the fact that you had in fact cova and in fact was was when you took tests. You've had the antibodies to kovin. They stay continued to stay in your body and so you sued. george mason. Is that correct cats correct and it's okay. Yup no no you go ahead. Yeah so i so. I tried to resolve this the nice way. Then it's wages. I tried to torch mason claims to the place the respect science that Respects truth so. I reached out over the summer After i contacted by immunologists and i did a full immunity workup including an anti bodies tests. That showed that my anybody's level With comparable to somebody who had been fully vaccinated And And there's more there's more than you needed that but this is sort of a slam dunk case is this is how you measure of somebody's immune protection listens how they measure whether somebody needs a booster shot for any for any disease whether it's measles or covert or anything else And so. I reached out. And i said here's here's the evidence They blew me off. I reached out to again. And i'd attached an affidavit from my immunologist as well as to leading public Stoller sir. I'm sure you're familiar with jay body charge at stanford martin cool dorks harvard. The presenting all the evidence to show this george mason again. Just blew me off Issue their policy saying that everybody had to get back and and so i reached out to the new civil liberties alliance at that point and some ask them to represent me so we brought a lawsuit eventually george mason and they're giving the medical exemption after all this In civil and changed the rules so that wasn't being disadvantaged as much as i had so the lawsuit itself has been resolved. But now there's you know many cases now following raising the same issue as vaccine mandates of spread around the country.
Rep. Chip Roy Explains Biden's Open Border Harms Both Migrants and Americants
"Are coming into this country with all kinds of diseases. The CDC just said they expect potentially Measles to become a problem again as a result of people they're bringing in from Afghanistan who weren't properly vetted. Now we have 11,000 Haitians under a bridge in your state with 10,000 more behind them. What the hell is going on here? Mark. Good to be able to show as always. I mean, look, if you set out to harm the United States of America, I don't know how you could do a better job than the bite administration is doing and eight months that they've been in power. And what's amazing is is that they've taken something and they have found a way to actually harm migrants and then harm the bury people in our country that they're supposed to protect at the same time. While pretending it somehow compassionate and we now as you just said, we have 10 or 11,000 people in Del Rio, a $10,000 way Haitians. We have their FAA being told not to allow drones so that we can have new shots being Broadcast around so people can see it. We have 4000 people in a holding facility in McAllen, where the where there's still flowing through. We have an enormous number of people. 1.4 million Mark 1.4 million Who have been apprehended. That's the entire city of Dallas that have been apprehended this year. And of those about half a million, we know have been released. Several 100,000 are known gotta ways we have at least 800,000 people in the United States because of what's been happening and divide administration not only doesn't care It's willful. It's purposeful, and they're doing it in blatant disregard of the constitutional duty to defend the United States of America, they are failing to faithful sleep faithfully execute the laws of the United States. And I believe it's not only impeachable, but that now Governor Abbott in Texas ought to take this into our own hands and do what we need to do to secure the border. The United States
US Bound Flights Carrying Afghans Temporarily Halted Due to Measles Cases
"White house says flights carrying afghan refugees to the us have been halted after discovery of four cases of measles among people who recently arrived in the us. This as npr's michele keleman reports nineteen more us citizens from the airport in kabul in the state department says to others managed to get out overland national security council spokesperson. Emily horne says the. Us is doing intensive work to give americans clear and safe options to leave afghanistan. The state department says forty. Four americans were offered seats on the latest plane. But not all decided to go. The taliban are still not allowing charter. Flights from northern afghanistan and democratic senator richard blumenthal once the state department to do more about that time precious time. The situation of these individuals is desperate urgen. He's been working with veteran groups and activists to help several at risk afghans and some american citizens get
Howard Stern to Anti-Vaxxers: ‘You Had the Cure and You Wouldn’t Take It'
"Howard stern's about howard stern and that's about it and so if it if it suits him it's for him and obviously liberty isn't for him because here's what he had to say most recently this apparently was on if it was today or yesterday very very recently. The story was printed yesterday over at the hill dot com radio host howard stern blasted opponents of the cove in nineteen vaccine on tuesday stating that quote nut. Jobs are trampling on his quote freedom to live so his freedom is under attack by people like us somehow the fact that we don't want to put some sort of foreign substance into our veins is restricting howard stern's freedom he said to his listeners on his sirius. Xm program quote. When are we going to stop putting up with idiots in this country and just say it's mandatory to get vaccinated. That's so libertarian. of him. Right this is not an uncommon viewpoint by the way there have been. It's not just stern. It's other people in like newspaper editorial sections who've been calling for mandatory vaccination all the propaganda he says. I remember when i went to school. You had to get a measles vaccine. You had to get a mumps vaccine. He said and there are indeed requirements for kids to get vaccines to go to government school. That is true and that's part of what they're building all of this off like. Oh well we already had these vaccine requirements was just another one.
Is Vaccine Hesitancy a New Phenomenon?
"The vocal anti vaccination movement is fairly recent and was really kicked into gear in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight by a now discredited paper that appeared in the medical journal lancet which falsely linked vaccines with autism however vaccine. Hesitancy is as old as vaccines themselves. How stuff works also spoke with dr katherine edwards. The author of an american academy of pediatrics clinical report called countering vaccine hesitancy and she said this has been going on for centuries and pointed to a cartoon published back in eighteen o to the depicts people growing cow-like parts this was in response to edward jenner pioneering smallpox vaccine by using material from cowpox a medical historian by the name of elena kanas wrote in a twenty fifteen in the american historian that the first smallpox vaccine quote was met with enthusiasm but also dread while many patients and physicians were eager to fend off air as most feared diseases. Many others balked at the prospect of contaminating their healthy bodies with disease matter from an animal. And then when european countries began making smallpox vaccines mandatory. And the early eighteen. Hundreds she wrote that quote societies of anti vaccination assists formed to protest what they saw as unequal treatment and undue infringement of individual liberty. But they didn't get much traction. There was also little protest against the polio vaccine which was released in nineteen fifty four to wild enthusiasm in america according to conus she wrote parents so dreaded polio that they were quick to seek the vaccine for their children and course of politics never became necessary but as the decades went on american parents. Were not so excited about vaccinations for measles mumps and other diseases. She noted perhaps because people were used to living with these diseases.
Why It’s Important To Flex in and Out of Ketosis
"Acidic toast this is really an ideal state however we don't wanna be in kito sus all the time and that's what you talk about in your book hito flex so let's talk about that. Yeah exactly so when we look at the our ancestors yes they all did. They didn't stick with kita long term whenever they had the opportunity when they came across honey or tubers or fruit they would eat that they didn't look at their tribe and say we don't eat. That were key they would eat that. So there's not one culture in the history of this world that stuck with the same diet long. It's nine hundred till the last fifty years or so that we have this new problem. People are sticking with the same foods in the same diet which were not designed to do. It doesn't create any kind of adaptation in the body and we know we create a change and we force adaptation. Good cells. get stronger and bad cells. don't adapt and that changes this for measles right this hermetic curve that we start to see benefits so key flex the reason i call kita flex is because we want to actually teach the body to burn fat and had that as your primal fuel source but not the only fuels for us. We wanna have times where we actually flex avocados inflex back in. And that's the premise behind the book. So i and. I've seen four major problems with those people who stay with keita long-term and people always ask me david. What is long term. I would say anything more than about six months. Strict could be considered long-term number one. I've seen fat loss actually slowed down. So if you wanna lose weight on kita which can be done. The body will want actually preserve that precious fuel source fat. The number one priority for the body is survival. You know if you've only been giving fat as fuel source it's gonna want to preserve that fuel source so i've seen weight loss and some of the results slowdown when you to regiment with it. A number two We know that the thyroid gland produces t four hormone which is that inactive forum that needs to be converted to t three which is the active form that has actually used by the cells. T. three is so important. That every single stock has the receptor site for the t. Three hormone in helps the cells produce. Energy helps you burn fat helps you feel good now. What helps make that. Conversion has actually insulin. So when you don't when you have chronically low levels of insulin from script ketosis end or too much. Fasting that conversion could become compromised. So those are a couple reasons why we want to actually flex in and out of
Connecticut Is 6th State to End Religious Vaccine Exemption
"Hi Mike Rossi a reporting Connecticut is ending the religious vaccine exemptions Connecticut has become the sixth state to end of the religious exemption from childhood immunization requirements for day care facilities schools and colleges governor Ned Lamont signed legislation Wednesday that requires vaccinations against highly contagious diseases like measles per tosses tetanus and meningitis any students in kindergarten and older with an existing religious exemptions will be grandfathered to groups opposing the bill say they plan to file state and federal lawsuit seeking to overturn the new law which will take effect with the twenty twenty to twenty three school year hi Mike Crossey up
Vaccinations Have Sharply Declined Nationwide during the COVID-19 Pandemic
"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that almost 136 million doses of covert 19 vaccines have been delivered with close to 37 million people in the US having been fully vaccinated against the coronavirus as of this weekend. More than 7.5 million doses of the vaccine have been administered in long term care homes. But what about other vaccinations unrelated to the coronavirus? CDC chief Dr Rochelle Wolinsky says there's been a troubling and substantial decline in childhood inoculations since the pandemic hit the US early last year. From member station W A. B E Sam Whitehead has war. The pandemic has kept Americans from taking their Children to the doctor, Molinski said. During the most recent Biden administration Cove, it 19 press call. That has meant lots of missed inoculations. CDC orders for childhood vaccinations dropped by about 11 million doses as we work to get our Children back to school. We certainly do not want to encounter other preventable infection outbreaks such as measles and mumps. Well, let's get encouraged people to check with their pediatrician's before sending their kids back to school. If they've skipped a vaccination, she says, the CDC has a schedule of how they can
On the front lines of Victoria's vaccine rollout
"I'm health reported teigen tayla opposition and journalists ultra. Norman swan is tuesday. The second of march and of course we know the vaccine rolette is happening all across australia and to give us a bit of an insight of how it's going in melbourne. We have a special guest today. Welcoming back professor marian kinda who's head of infectious diseases at western health. Thanks for making time. For us marian. Good morning so marian. Just give us a sense of what you've had to do and what you're covering and and the challenge at western health. We are responsible for the tolerant. Airports border on staff including flight crew as well as the hospitals in our catchment area. So that is. The pack will campus as well as western health and some other hospitals as well. You talk them at the time. Precious that have been anew with just mobilizing for these vaccine. Rollout lots of people in our organization have described as doing six months of work in three weeks. A lot of people put in a lot of effort to get this up and running. And i'm just so proud of what we have been able to achieve. Now we've heard a lot about training. How different is dealing with this pfizer. Vaccine from pooping call for measles australia. One of the major things which is different is one. This is an ultra. Low temperature require the cold chain requirements at different and in addition we have to use multi. Does files and in australia. Multi smiles have not been used much at all and this is a very very precious product and so we want to make sure that we maximise the number of doses that we can get out of a multi file so for the fis vaccine. That is that we aim to take out six doses out of fat multi file which is a challenge because we constantly do not have what a cold low dead space needles overloaded space syringes. That are family style absolutely great and they are able to reliably get sixty six out of multidex files. Solo did space. Needle is nato where. There's not a bit of a minimum amount of vaccine. That's left in it after it's been completely delib is correct correct and so we want to make sure with. Everybody gets exactly the dose that they need. And if you don't have a low dead space being you have vaccine that is lifting the end. The person does not get the full amount or you cannot get the full dose of the vaccine pulled out of the multi vile and you've got to go to w. correct so. This is a complex process. So i'll pharmacy staff. They spent one week specifically training for this to make sure that they abide by be cold chain requirements which has significant in addition to make sure that they use the proper aseptic technique. So that they don't have any contamination of vile that occurs and then they practiced and practiced and practiced to make sure with dummy vials to make sure that they could get the appropriate number of doses. Out of that multi vile.
9 top New York health officials resign as Gov. Andrew Cuomo scorns COVID-19 advice from experts
"York has been through hell, but the finish line is in sight. New York's governor, Andrew Cuomo, has arguably been one of the most visible politicians during the pandemic. The national media praised his measured tone during his daily press briefings back in the spring when New York City was the epicenter of the virus and New Yorkers agreed Polling in July showed that 72% of them approved of how the governor had responded to the crisis. For many Cuomo's apparent reliance on evidence and facts to guide his decisions was a relief from President Trump's daily Lies and misinformation about the virus. Here's Governor Cuomo talking to NBC News back in March. Don't operate on what I hope what I would like to see you What My expectation is I operate on the data on the numbers and on the science. Recent reporting from The New York Times, however, shows some cracks in that picture. According to the time since the summer, nine senior New York State Health Department officials have left their positions for being quote. Sidelined and disrespected by Governor Cuomo by not listening to their advice. Some believe the governor has potentially hindered the state's ability to stop the spread of the virus successfully roll out the vaccine. Here's what Governor Cuomo had to say during a recent press briefing. When I say experts in your quotes it sounds like I'm saying, I don't really trust the experts. Because I don't Because I don't Jesse McKinley is the Albany bureau chief for The New York Times. Jesse Thanks for joining us. Absolutely. So, What happened? I mean, why is Governor Cuomo shifting from someone who said he trusted the experts to someone who says he doesn't? Well, I think that was a pretty shocking remark. I think a lot of draws dropped not only in the room, but probably people listening nationwide and across the state. The point I think the governor was trying to make, although you might have been him handed about it was that he did not trust you know federal experts and people who Had given him bad advice in the past. Now, keep in mind. This has been a steady refrain of the governor that he feels like the feds let him down that the virus was coming when they didn't expect it. But the understood the thing that underscores this was our reporting in the paper on Monday, which basically showed that a lot of these so called experts that he has sustained for are in fact leading his department of Health. And leaving that department little bit in the lurch at a time in which the pandemic is so raging here in New York, you found in fact, in your reporting that nine senior New York State Health Department officials have left the department since the summer. Is this tension that you're describing between Governor Cuomo and essentially state public health officials? Really? What drove that? I think it's an undercurrent. Almost all of those nine leaving, you know, keep in mind the governor of common long before he became kind of the pandemic Slayer that he was known last spring and summer. Was known for a very heavy handed approach to state government and that included the state agencies like the Department of Health are under his under his, You know, Leadership s. Oh, he's always been known as a tough boss. But I think the intensity of the pandemic I think that the fact that he and a very small coterie of aides were dictating policy, often without the Department of Health, knowing what was coming Lead to enormous tension and also dispirited people in the Department of Health. You know, some of the sources we spoke to spoke of all time low morale inside at the Department of Health. You made the point that often times in situations like this, where you're facing a huge crisis, People rise the challenge, and they feel like their their expertise and their skill sets are are valued. And in many cases the governor made these people feel like they were not valued in and kind of dunderheads. You know, at a time in which he alone knew the best way forward. I want to get into the governor's decision to work with private hospitals in just a moment. But before that has the departure of these nine public health officials had any effect on the actual rollout of the vaccine distribution, or, you know efforts to control the spread of the virus. It's difficult to say at this point, but but what is incontrovertible is is that the governor instituted a different plan than the one that was on the books now. Now keep in mind, the Department of Health as well as local departments of health. Do Max vaccinations They have done these. They have plans on the books. They you know. In 2000 and nine they handled H one n one. There have been past outbreaks. There have been certainly public health vaccinations for everything from measles toe. Other childhood illnesses like this is something that local health departments know how to do and let they have plans to do. And in the case of this pandemic, the governor decided that they would do a different plan, often without informing the local health departments or even his own state Department of Health. That he had a different idea how to do this, and that leads to what you were talking about in using you know, large hospital systems is kind of the primary, you know point of contact for vaccinations rather than leaving it up Tol, local health departments or other authorities.
Pandemic Advances Scientific Understanding Of Viruses' Air Transmission
"Up, we're taking a look back at some of 20 twenties major events and one of the most remarkable scientific advances this year came in our understanding of how respiratory viruses can be transmitted from one person to another through the air. Krone virus pandemic obviously made this an urgent question. And NPR's Nell Greenfield Boys reports that old scientific ideas quickly got thrown out of the window. For decades. The prevailing idea about respiratory viruses was that some were airborne, and some just weren't so back in January, Thea understanding of how viruses spread through the air. Was really primitive and incorrect. Lindsay Mars, a researcher at Virginia Tech, who studies virus transmission, she says textbooks and research papers said an airborne virus was something like measles. It could be breathed out in tiny particles called aerosols that hang in the air. Those aerosols contractual long distances from room to room. All of that was very different from non airborne viruses like flew in the common cold. Those were thought to spread through coughs and sneezes, big droplets that travel just a few feet. Maher says. This whole simplistic picture was just wrong. There were very small number of people in the world. I think who really understood at that time how viruses spread through the air, and these people realize that the new coronavirus might be airborne at short distances. That is if people talked or saying the virus could be in small particles, as well as the big droplets and coughs and in a poorly ventilated space. These particles could build up as the Corona virus outbreak took off. These experts started making a lot of noise about this and people paid attention. Maher says She thought it would take 30 years for more nuanced ideas about airborne transmission to gain widespread acceptance. But it's happened in months. It's been pretty wild to see airborne transmission of viruses become Big news. Scientific studies came superfast Josh than Tar. Pia is a researcher at the University of Nebraska Medical Center. We're not even 12 months in and We know things about this virus that you know, we don't know about some viruses that we've had around for decades. His medical center took care of some of the first people with Corona virus in the United States. Santo Pia recalls standing at the end of their beds with a device that collected air while they talked or breathed his lab, then analyzed the tiny airborne droplets. Looking for the genetic signature of the Corona virus. We were getting positives more than one positive in the air samples, and I can't say the words that I said But you're kind of broadcast this, but I was shocked signs of the virus were in such tiny particles. He worried that nothing less than the most protective masks could stop it. Soon, though, studies showed that even basic cloth masks were able to reduce the amount of virus that gets out into the air and suddenly mask wearing became routine sent our P A was floored and how ventilation became part of the normal daily conversation. You know how well ventilated is the space shouldn't be spending time inside or outside. You know how much all these things it's changed so much about the way we view the world. The question is, Will this be a lasting change? Donald Milton is a research Teacher at the University of Maryland School of Public Health. He spent years showing how better ventilation in dorms or offices is associated with a lower risk of respiratory disease transmission, he says. We need to figure out engineering solutions to improve the safety of indoor spaces like getting better ventilation, using air filters, even using special lights up by a room ceiling to disinfect circulating air. I want to see us understand how it is that you can make her Restaurant, a safe place to be during flu season and during a pandemic. I think it's doable, but he's afraid that once vaccines get this virus in check, people will lose interest at least until the next pandemic. Nell Greenfield Boys NPR news
Covid-19 Live Updates: New Variant Causes Alarm Around the World
"There was more on this. Dr scott gottlieb former commissioner of the fda currently serves on the boards of alumina and pfizer. He's also a cnbc contributor latest op. Ed in the wall street journal focuses on on discussion that we had it at length. Last week Scott about some of the therapeutics and some of the bottlenecks or whatever's causing them not to be i mean logistically. It's difficult home infusion necessarily. We'll we'll touch on your your op ed. But let's talk about this. This new strain i. I looked into it a little bit more. Fourteen mutation seven are in the spike protein. Apparently there have been thousands of mutations already in this virus. So it's it's more contagious. I think what scares scott or what causes concern is if if it's mutating fairly easily. Is it possible there could be a mutation that could make it more lethal. This is not that this is more contagious. But it makes you think that if that were to happen that would that would be very concerning right and the other question is possible. That could be mutation that obviates prior immunity so people who got it again or slips past vaccines right this does appear to be. This is a mutation. The question is was this. The result of selective pressure so was this selected for because it's more contagious or was what we call. Founders effect just happened to get into london in london into some early super spreading events in became the predominant strain but it's not really selected for we. Now think it's selected for we. Now think that this is more transmissible. It doesn't seem to have mutated the surface proteins of the virus in a way that they would slip past our vaccines or prior union fact. We don't think that that's the case. But what this does suggests is that eventually this virus probably will evolve its surface proteins. In a way that they won't be recognized by the antibodies. We have right now. We will have to update the vaccines most viruses mutate. Is you know some viruses like flu. Evolve their surface proteins very quickly. And that's why we need a different flu vaccine every season some viruses can't really change the surface proteins like measles. This virus seems to fall someplace in between it's not going to change surface proteins very rapidly that spike protein but it will change over time and then the final point is that it's probably a good thing that we use the entire spike protein in our vaccines because what we're getting is what we call a poly clinical of response. We're developing antibodies to many different regions of that protein. So even if one part of that protein were mutated and some. Antibodies no longer recognize that they would be. Antibodies other parts of that protein. So this probably will not slip past. Vaccines very easily. But eventually we'll have to update the vaccine's antigen tests are different question and antibody drugs for that matter. If those tests surprised to a very specific region of that spike protein in that region undergoes. Some change it could potentially slip pass those tests. So we're going to need a way to monitor for these strains an update some about technology. Well hadn't even hadn't even thought about that. Well you remember the old days scott. There'd be a mutation it'd be like well. There's a mutation. All you had was the so-called the fina tight we can get the gene type immediately now within seconds literally maybe hours we can sequence the mutation so we got that going for us which which we never had before plus we have this new platform. This new messenger are a platform where you could easily. If you had to you could you could introduce a new version vaccine if it mutated around aren't both of those things positive right the advent of synthetic vaccines makes it very easy to update these vaccines and we will be doing much better surveillance and we've done historically using sequencing so We do that for flu sequence strains of flu. We're going to have to do that. The covert as. Well
NEW VISION FOR A SCULPTOR
"And now part two story twelve new vision for a sculptor. His conscience hurt him as much as his drinking. But that was years ago. I think that life. When i was growing up was the most wonderful life that any kid ever had. My parents were very successful every new luxury and every new beauty that came into the house was keenly appreciated by all of us. We didn't have things thrown at us. They came little by little. My parents were both jews and in my family life we were always keenly alive to the beauty of religion. Although we were not orthodox. I always saw god as a wonderful force. That was a great deal. Like my father only magnified to the nth degree. I wanna ask my grandfather. When i was little boy what god was like. He asked me what my dad was like. I went into superlatives about dad. Because i really loved him so much. He was such a friendly wonderful father. And so my grandfather said well. Your father is the head of your family. God is the head of the entire human family and of the whole universe but what makes him dear. God is that you can speak to him just as you would talk to your own dad. He's not only a universal father but an individual father too. So i'd always had that wonderful comparison of my own father with god when they found out that i could create sculpture at a very early age. It made both my parents very happy. My two older brothers were not artists but they were very good students. I was very bad student and very much of an artist instead of resenting that they encouraged my art so my childhood was really art and music. And i got along at school usually by leaving the day before examinations or getting measles or something else like that and being put in the next grade for trial. The teacher of the grade. That i left would never take me back. Under any circumstances i was ecstatically. Happy my brothers and their friends lived on horses as i did from six years old on. We did everything. All of our playing in wild games on horseback. This was up to world war one. I was about nineteen years old. Then i don't think i had any fears at all up to that time. We were very close family. Everything was very vital. Anything that happened to one happened to another when war broke out. All i could hear in my heart was the echoes of what my father and mother had me so often how grateful i should be to. The united states. Grandfathers had come over from the other side. One from bohemia and one from prussia because at that time there was persecution in those countries and they wanted to live and be part of the land of the free. They both had magnificent lives and were able to pull themselves up and live happily and die in luxury. I was very grateful to the united states for that. I loved my grandparents very dearly. And i had watched my father's great financial success so i felt that i didn't want either of my two brothers to go to war. They were both married but certainly one of the family should show what we thought and felt about the united states. So i told my folks that i was going to join the army and that scared them to death but after a while they heard that a nearby hospital was forming a unit and i think my mother had a picture of my going to war with my personal family doctor. Nothing could be more luxurious so they gave their consent that i should join the unit. Never realizing that you could transfer when you got to the other side. I was a terrible soldier. As far as drilling was concerned but i had been studying anatomy and dissecting for my artwork so a hospital was sort of a second nature to me. I got along very well in that part of the army. Very well indeed. I went through world war one without actually getting drunk. I did learn to drink heavily in france but it didn't do anything for me or to me. I mean to say. I didn't drink for relief or escape and i was always flattered that i could out drink almost anybody and take them home. Many of the patients insisted that when they got well they were going to take me down and get me drunk and appreciation. It was usually a hike of two and a half kilometers to get the patient back to the hospital. These were the walking wounded. I had one bad experience. In which a truck that i was in was blown up and i woke up in vichy a couple days later in a bathtub i thought i was in heaven. The whole room was full of steam. An enormous sargent came through the steam. And said don't move young fellow. I said where am i. He told me. I started to upgrade him. Why should i move. He said don't move. That's all i did and found. It was very painful. I had an injury to my spine when it was time to get me out of that bathtub that enormous guy just picked me up as though i were a baby and put me on a stretcher that was about three days before the armistice on armistice day everyone pushed all the hospital beds onto the street and had a grand parade of them. Everybody hugged and kissed us and gave us candy and drinks and the sergeant came along with a glass and said the doctor said your to finish this right away. I turned it upside down and believe me. The bed swam from then on. It didn't last very long. Because as soon as i got something to eat a god over that but i think that was my very first feeling of being dizzy or drunk
Battling Pandemics With Dr. Anne Rimoin
"To us a little bit about the different pandemics that you've worked on. Were closely on that. You've studied so in terms of pandemic so the panned this is really the first pandemic in our lifetime so good. The last pandemic was the nineteen eighteen pandemic but in terms of epidemics. I've been working on. I've worked on bola for many many years. So basically after i finished my phd I ended up working for an i h for several years. I started setting up. these research. Programmes in african countries. And i started working in the democratic republic of congo in two thousand and two and so i started this huge research program. That's what started as a team. Research program became a huge research program. And we've been working on things like ebola. Monkey pox work on maxene preventable diseases. So trying to get people vaccinated and understanding how many people are vaccinated against regular diseases like measles in leo and tetanus and these things that we worry about here in the united states to so. I've been doing that. But then i've also been doing things like following hunters and people who are at the animal human interface in trying to see will what viruses are. They getting exposed to who gets infected. What are they so One of the themes of my of my work has been preventing pandemics before they start so in the whole idea that it's better to to avoid being in the situation that we are right now vent to spend the money to prevent it in. Its i always use the example. You know my my my late father in law always used to say it's better to stay out of trouble than it is to get out of trouble. How do you do that. What is that look like. What is preventing pandemic or epidemic. What is that look like. Well the the best way to do it is to is to invest in the research in the public health infrastructure to be able to detect these things beforehand because epidemics like wildfires. Or you want to stamp them out when they're just little sparks you don't wanna wait until they've started burning through lots of brush in becoming a huge wildfire the the. It's very hard to extinguish. And so you need trained public health professionals. You need to have good disease surveillance on the ground. You need to be able to have the lab infrastructure in place in the testing in place in all of the diagnostics in place. All the things that you're going to be able to detect what's going on. I you need your your. Your is near ears on the ground. And then the tools are detected and then the ability to go respond to it now is been spending the vast majority of my career doing this in places like the congo you know but here in the united states we're learning. It's the same problem. We didn't invest in our public health infrastructure. And so as a result we're really paying the price you know. It took us a long time to be able to to get Testing in running. It took a really long time to be able to contact tracing in all these people who are trying to figure out okay. This person is exposed to this person. This person gave a guy gave it to this person. All of that has taken a very very longtime time to give get in place. And so we're it's like having a house with a really poor foundation that you know it's sinking while you're trying to build on top of it and that's kind of unfortunately where we are.
'There's No Quick Fix For COVID-19,' Cautions Pennsylvania Secretary Of Health
"Going to talk more now about how states are preparing to distribute those vaccines as they become available, and to do that, we're joined by Dr Rachel Levine. She is the Pennsylvania health secretary and also president of the Association of State Health Officials. Dr Levine welcome 12 Things considered. Thank you very much. I'm very pleased to be here. Will you walk us through the logistics for when Pennsylvania first receives its initial shipments of vaccines? I mean, where does it go? How do you keep it cold? What do you actually have to do? Sure. So we're all waiting the meeting of the FDA on December 10th. And then they will consider all of the data of submitted by the Fizer Corporation for the first vaccine. When they issue their emergency use authorization or you away, then operation Warp speed will distribute the vaccine. To hospitals in Pennsylvania and throughout the nation just to get specific is the federal government or or fives or corporation, sending it to the state of Pennsylvania to distribute it to hospitals. I I asked, because this vaccine has to be kept incredibly cold. It's not just like you can send a bottle of aspirin, right? So you are correct. This is an ultra cold chain vaccine that has to be kept at minus 80 C or or Celsius. So it will be operation works speed that will be sending it to the hospitals that we designate now will depend, of course about how much we're going to get, and it comes in trays of 975 bottles. So these have to be hospitals that can Deal with the cold chain and can deal with that amount of vaccine to then administer. Now, the CDC recommends that health care workers and residents of long term care facilities should get first access to these vaccines. That's a large number of people have you decided whether you're going to start With older healthcare workers or people with underlying conditions are only doctors and nurses who see covert patients. I mean, how are you going to prioritize within the priority groups? Sure. So we're going to be developing a decision tree for hospitals to use and we'll be finishing that this week. I want to point out that the distribution for the nursing home and other long term kitchen facilities Goes in a different way. So operation works speed working with Walgreens and CVS will be receiving the vaccine with those two pharmaceutical companies, and then they will be working to administer the vaccine in nursing homes and other long term care facilities. Do you have a sense of how many doses The first shipment is likely to include and how that compares to the number of people in this top priority. First group, so we don't exactly know how many doses we're going to get in the first shipment. So you know, we had lots of discussions with Operation Warp speed, you know, will be looking to attack the end of next week or certainly when they're going to be sent out to know exactly how many doses we're going to get in the first week. And then the expectation our weekly shipments to the hospitals and to Walgreens and CVS for those distributions. I gotta ask a lot of depending here on the ability of operation Warp speed to carry this out effectively And with Corona virus testing, the federal government kind of fell down. I mean, There weren't enough tests. Some of the tests were not accurate. Initially. How confident are you in the ability of this Trump Administration program to get this very difficult job done? We have heard directly from General Purna. You know, we have confidence in them, but I'm sure it will be a significant logistical challenge. This has to occur throughout the United States, all at the same time to all of the states, the territories. And then some specific large cities. And are you also concerned about the smooth handoff from one administration to another? I mean, if the distribution depends on Operation Warp speed, which is a Trump administration program will the Trump Administration only has so many more weeks in office. Now, the Department of Defense under General Karna, you know, will still be there in terms of continuity, But in terms of the representatives from helping human services and the administration, we would like to think that they'll be robust conversation. Nation and communication as the administration transitions. Obviously, that has not happened as much as it should have yet, But we're hoping that all those communications will be going on forthcoming. Just to get back to the scale of the logistical challenge here. This is a vaccine requires two doses weeks apart. Do you have the infrastructure to track and time who has had a first dose when yes, we do. But that is a information technology challenge in terms of making sure that we get the right vaccine into the right person at the right time. And then not only the visor vaccine, but the Madonna vaccine that also is a to dose vaccine. We've heard so many states talk about the extreme budget pressure that they are under and this is an expensive undertaking. Do you have the money? You need to do it? And if not, do you think the federal government is ready to provide it well, it will be essential for the federal government to provide more funding to the States territories in cities that will be tasked with ministering the vaccine. Operation works speed cost billions and billions for the development of the vaccine on Lee $340 million has been allocated for the next part of the mission, the distribution and the administration so clearly states and territories and cities. They're going to need more funding from the federal government to finish and accomplish this mission. These issues you're talking about could occupy you for more than 40 hours a week every week, and you are at the same time dealing with a spike in Corona virus cases and having to contact trace people who may have come in contact with exposed individuals, overcrowded hospitals. How are you juggling all of this at once? Well again. This is the public health challenge of a lifetime. I don't think any of us have seen a 40 hour week. You know, in our memories I stand corrected three ways to deal with the pandemic. You can work on containment that involved the testing and contact tracing very hard to contain a virus that has spread this far. For example, Today we are reporting 11 over 11,000 new cases. In Pennsylvania. It's impossible to contact that many people, so we have to prioritize. We prioritize to congregate, setting such as nursing homes and other long term care facilities, Correctional institutions, schools, etcetera, Then we have mitigation. Basic mitigation sets his mass and hand washing and social distancing. And then in Pennsylvania, you know we had to have a stay at home advisory. And you know, we have really tried to recommend that people avoid not only large gatherings but small gatherings. And then they'll be the vaccine those of the tools and the public health to box that we have to work with. When you're dealing with community spread on the level that we are seeing now, where there is so much of this disease and so much transmission of it. Do you have to change your approach? I mean it, Zeke gone from hand to hand combat to fighting an army out. Imagine it has And so the basic public health tool of containment, which we would do for a small measles outbreak or for it outbreak of tuberculosis? That is extremely difficult for public health to do when we're seeing this type of widespread community transmission, and then we have to pivot to more and more mitigation. It's a very unpopular it is made public health officials sometimes unpopular throughout the nation, but they're absolutely essential to try to stop the spread. And then we have the light at the end of the tunnel, which is the vaccine, but there's no quick fix to hope in 19. After Rachel Levine, Pennsylvania Health Secretary and president of the Association of State Health officials. Thank you for talking with us in the middle of everything else that you were doing. My pleasure. Thank you very much.
Dr Fauci on herd immunity
"Dr. Fauci, what is herd immunity, and when do you expect the United States to get there? Well, herd immunity. You know, sometimes the the terminology is we use can confuse people. What herd Immunity means is that when you get a certain percentage Of the population that is protected against infection, either by natural infection, and we're not even close to herd immunity now as proven By the fact that we have had spikes in areas that have previous spikes, so the previous spike didn't prevent them from the subsequent spike. So herd immunity is when you get a large proportion of the population that's protected, which means those who are vulnerable and not either the vaccine doesn't work in them. They have a biggest susceptibility to getting adverse effects of an indelicate, eerie is consequence of the infection. The fact that you have so many people that are protected the virus. If you want to use a metaphor has no place to go. It's looking for vulnerable people, and most of the population is protected. That's how viruses die out. That's how we smashed measles. That's how we smashed polio. That's how we smashed smallpox. So that's the reason why you have an efficacious vaccine. You want to get his many people protected so that it's almost like if you have heard of strong animals. You see it in the movies about going into Africa and the beautiful scenery you see about herds of wildebeest or what have you You have the herd that's really strong. You have some weak ones in there. So when someone maybe the metaphorical lions trying to get in there and take care of the weak ones, the strength of the herd protects the vulnerable ones. That's what you mean by herd immunity. So it's a question of Two components and efficacious vaccine and getting as many people vaccinated as you possibly can. Those two combinations together, those two ingredients could protect everyone which gets to another important question that people keep asking. We've got to make sure we engage the community. To realize that the decision about the safety and the efficacy of the vaccine and the speed with which we did it. The speed was based on very exquisite scientific advances and an enormous amount of resource is that would put into operation warp speed to make this happen? There was no compromise of safety. Nor was there compromise of scientific integrity. Now we've got to get that was real. Yeah, the decision. I right, Go ahead. Now. Let me just say it. I didn't mean to interrupt this decision to say that this vaccine is safe and effective. The data were analyzed by a completely independent board. The Datum Safety Monitoring board, which in fact doesn't have to answer to the administration doesn't have to answer to the company. They're independent. They look at the data and they said in Both of those vaccines, both the Madonna and the and the Fiza that it is official efficacious and it's safe and to protect you, even against serious disease. Those data then get analyzed by career scientists that the FDA in association with an advisory committee that again is independent. When that decision is made. All of the data is going to be seen by scientists like myself and my colleagues, so the process is independent and it's transparent. So I know there's been a lot of mixed messages that maybe have come out. But one needs to appreciate that. This is a solid process. So when they say that the vaccine is safe and effective, if we want to protect the individual and all of our society, we should take the vaccine and I could tell you when my turn comes up. And the FDA says that this is safe and effective. I myself will get vaccinated and I will recommend that my family gets
Bill Gates, the Virus and the Quest to Vaccinate the World
"Who gates welcome back to the daily social distancing. Show good to see you you lost. Join us on the show. I would say it was about seven months ago and seven months ago. Just like dr fauci. You said you will worried because you felt like the worst was yet to come a lot of people accused you of peddling fear and terror and now it appears that unfortunately you were correct. Here's my question to you. Why does it seem like we've become worse at handling the pandemic you know in europe in the us then we were seven months ago when seven months ago. It was so bad. Well there's a couple of things working against us. I is that with the winter when we're colder we. The virus multiplies more and more indoors. More so that is not a good thing and then there's a certain fatigue. Some of the things people have had to do in terms of staying away from friends. That's tougher i've to say this round. It looks like europe is getting better compliance with the restrictions than the. Us is so they're starting to see a downturn. When you talk about that compliance and when you talk about the downturn is part of the downturn like should we should we be looking at the virus cases or should we be looking at the deaths because i never know which one is more important than usual. Be like a million more people to me. Five million seven million and then you'll see some doctors saying yes but fewer people are dying from because we know how to treat it. How should we be looking at this virus and the fight that we have against. It's well the case is our leading indicator it is true that cases are translating into less doubts for two reasons. One is that the cases are more in the young people Who are less likely to be very sick. And the other is that the quality of treatment including some new drugs like decks method have been proven out so when you do get hospitalized you have a higher chance of survival but were predicted to go back to over two thousand deaths a day in the months ahead so for the next six to eight months news is mostly bad after that the volume of the vaccine will have kicked in and then we'll have a light at the end of the tunnel. Wow i mean the the question is then i think for a lot of people is like. How long tunnel. How bad does that tunnel get. And how do we stop it from being the worst possible tunnel one of the big things. A lot of people are worried about is going to be the transition between joe biden. donald trump. You know you've worked with governments all over the world working on their vaccine distribution working on healthcare around the planet. You know how important it is for one administration to talk to the next when it comes to Handing off on their plans. How much do you think this will actually affect america's response if if there isn't a transition well it's unfortunate that the current administration got tied into a positive narrative that you know we're turning the corner And that you now have this transition will make. The message is a little less clear. You know this is when you'd love to see the best. Cdc people on tv reminding us about social distancing and masks. You know particularly when there is that fatigue out there so leaders at all level. This is a chance to step up even on politicians. You know encouraging friends that hey we. We don't want this additional several hundred thousand deaths you know it'd be adjective. A person who dies know when the vaccine is absolutely on the way and so i think the good news should drive compliance not lacks laxity as somebody who's done work globally around healthcare for so long especially around infectious diseases. What have you found is the key to encouraging or convincing community members to buy into the measures that keep them safe where we had vaccine resistance with polio and they're getting the religious leaders to speak out have them a visibly vaccinating their own children for would like we'd never stopped polio in africa and yet now it's just been certified that we've gone three years without wild polio so activating the trust hierarchy and getting rid of the conspiracy political element to it and just reminding people you know in this case. It's about saving lives in that case it's about kids not being paralyzed people back to that. Very human impact. If we don't behave well. I think it will often come through. It's interesting that you bring up conspiracies because the conspiracy theories about you online have are insane on social media and social media has propagates them in a way where it's like bill gates is trying to create vaccines so that he can cook troll your minds and he wants to vaccinate. Everybody can implant change. People's dna is what they said. You're going to change our dna. So that i don't know we turn into something and then we work for you somewhere. I don't know the full story. I'm still learning it when you see these things first of all. Have you been able to track down where it comes from. And secondly have you. Even i know you think about these things you want to like the biggest thing because i hadn't even thought about like the motivation behind it because i'm always trying to figure out who benefits from a conspiracy theory and i'd love to know if you've put any thought to this at all because of how many people won't get a vaccine because they truly believe conspiracy theories yeah usually when you work on infectious disease like dr fauci and high do your your kind of obscure in a nobody talks about t be or or malaria so here we have this complete turnaround where vaccines and are they. Good for people are now front and center. And there's always been a small group of anti vaccination people and we see this with you know measles vaccine. They've now got a platform and they've sort of joined forces with some political and spiracy abuse and it's so easy to click on particularly when a simple explanation for this pandemic that there is somebody evil behind it. You know as somehow easier than you know the true biology which is actually kind of complicated so we have to make the truth more interesting. And you know we've got a label things with the truth and sadly the naievety about how to make social media work. Well is pretty strong. And that's coincided with the election and the epidemic. I wish i had the answer. But you know it's it's it's out there in big big numbers and hasn't it just keeps growing so when we look at the vaccine. Now i mean that's now the story you know. Now the world is waiting for the vaccine because the vaccine becomes the key that unlocks the doors. You say the lights at the end of the tunnel. The question then is how do people get the vaccine. How effective will the distribution method be and how difficult is will the vaccine short supply. The good news is that there's four other vaccines that are likely to get approved fairly quickly as well. The fact that pfizer worked so well makes us optimistic. That astrazeneca johnson and johnson vacs which those are much cheaper easier to scale and don't require that cold chain so we'll have a lot of scenes and we need to prioritize people. At risk elder people people working nursing homes and each country Will have to decide okay. Who goes first. That's still a little bit confused in the us but hopefully we'll get that straightened out very very soon because the vaccine is likely to be shipped a lot in the month of december as you said anti vaccine community has only grown over time. I think the us is now the biggest hub of anti vexes in the world it started as a fringe thing with measles now with corona it is fully fledged and because of politics it's been amplified so now you'll have some people who on the liberal side saying i don't trust that vaccine it was made under trump and then you'll have other people saying like i don't trust that vaccine that came from joe biden and the and the democrats trying to brainwash. It's a lot of people may not want to take the vaccine which may now go against everything we've worked toward. So how do you begin convincing people that the vaccine is safe like in the midst of this political crisis. Well it's clear that the fda through the professional staff. They're all the things that are supposed to do likewise pfizer. There's even an external committee that will weigh in just to make absolutely sure that the the political desire to get this quickly did not in fact the efficacy and safety review and i feel very confident because the people involved are are really doing their job. Well we don't need everyone to take the vaccine. Society will have to decide if there's some jobs like going to a nursing home in taking care of somebody's grandparents whether that person you know how strongly you encourage them to have a vaccine so they're not spreading seeing but with this level of efficacy if we can get to seventy five percent dosed then you'll block the spread of the disease with measles you'd have to get to like ninety five percent because it's even more infectious but the good news here is that we just need that maturity and i think as people see people taking the vaccine and they see that The side effects of any are very very rare. That confidence will build and that will be good for society because when you take the vaccine you're helping to protect other people.
COVID-19 vaccine distribution faces logistical challenges
"Drug. Giant pfizer requested emergency authorization today for its covid vaccine which it claims is ninety. Five percent effective. Tom costello has late. Details it's shaping up to be the fastest vaccine development and us history after forty four thousand. Volunteers rolled up their sleeves. Pfizer today became the first drug company to seek emergency. Fda authorization for a covert nineteen vaccine. We will continue. The work already underway to make sure we can begin shopping. The vaccine immediately after radiation. We're approval vaccine maker. Moderna also expected to its data soon putting both companies on track for fda clearance within weeks. We could have a decision from fda and within twenty four hours of that we will have started distributing millions of doses of safe and effective vaccine to begin protecting our most vulnerable across america. Here are five key steps to authorization. The vaccine trials include at least thirty thousand people who are diverse in race age and risk groups. The fda requires two months of follow up safety data before drugmakers can even submit for emergency use side effects typically appear in the first two months so far both companies report. No serious side effects both pfizer and madeira claimed their vaccines are ninety. Five percent effect to the question will they completely prevent a cova one thousand nine infection and how long that protection. Last the fda's advisory panel will convene on december tenth review the pfizer data. Then the fda will vote on whether to approve it. Meanwhile cdc advisory group will recommend should get vaccinated. I i li efficacious and effective vaccines have crushed epidemics like smallpox and polio. and measles. we can do that. The fda expects to have enough doses to begin vaccinating twenty million people by year's end starting with healthcare workers the general public likely following in the spring or summer. All right now. Tom joins us tom. They're even more vaccines coming down. The pike in the new year your astra zeneca and johnson and johnson both expect to have their vaccine candidates ready in the first quarter. The military is already planning the distribution for all of this within twenty four hours of approval. It plans to start shipping the vaccine to all fifty states. It's a big logistical challenge and tom. A vaccine can't come fast enough as more than two thousand. Americans died from covid it a single day for the first time since may and the number hospitalized set a record at more than eighty thousand.
"measles" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM
"New B. and T. cells a month after contracting the measles these new cells only remember that the monkeys had had measles in the past they didn't recall any of the other infections the monkeys that had. the monkeys immune systems had amnesia this month the primates would have to go through all sorts of illnesses again to regain the immunity levels they built up since birth. and it appears that the same is true for humans in twenty fifteen results of the study were published in the journal science the show children who got the measles and survived we're more likely to subsequently died from another infectious disease the kids who never got the measles in the four countries studied Denmark England Wales and the United States the children's immune systems all appear to be weekend for two to three years post measles. although the measles vaccine is highly effective missiles remains one of the leading causes of death among young children globally nearly a hundred and ten thousand people died from measles around the world in twenty seventeen mostly children under the age of five on a more positive note because increasing numbers of kids are receiving the measles vaccination deaths from this infectious disease plunge an incredible eighty percent between two thousand and twenty seventeen which quite for the prevention of about twenty one point one million deaths. measles is still common in impoverished countries especially those in Africa and Asia where vaccination levels are lower Furthermore outbreaks are specially damaging country's recovering from natural disasters or undergoing violent conflicts in these situations the administration of vaccines often interrupted so more people are at risk of contracting the disease. and when many people end up in cramped quarters such as refugee camp for emergency shelters the situation is right for an outbreak since measles spread so easily. mainly through coughing sneezing and close personal contact virus can survive for up to two hours in the air and on surfaces this means an infected person can cough in one room and then leave and the second.
"measles" Discussed on KDWN 720AM
"Great WABC. How are you? Esther. Doing. Okay. I'm calling about the. Outbreak in Los Angeles. The measles outbreak and in Brooklyn and in Iraq and Kelly. And I forgot to mention to Mr. call screener to Berkeley. New York state. Typhus outbreak is from legally aliens in Los Angeles to Burke up for several years now under George Pataki. They actually used to post, the TB rates per canny, New York, and they stopped doing that. Of course. And the measles measles, the story with the measles is was buried in a back page story a few years ago. In an English language Israeli newspaper that I like to read. And the story of measles outbreak started in Israel. And, but everybody nobody is. Pointing the fame point fingers where they belong, she hottest in West Bank, and Gaza believe that the Omar shot causes sterility. So they're refusing to allow they Madrid are going out in the are, are forbidding followers from give getting getting your kids. See Emma, Marsha. Well, that means he's kids are carriers and these, they grow up, and they are circulating among the Jewish population in Israel. And people don't realize that they come here. And that's how it's been spreading. There has been thankfully, a very big push for free measles vaccines. They are giving him out. There's one particular community in Orange County, which has, like, I think ninety nine point seven percent vaccination, right? Tell us about typhus in Los Angeles is being spread its first of all, they having a massive problem with public urination and fixation. It is spread by on Wednesday. Hell, what the hell we last time, we had a typhus problem in this country. Talk about it. Stories when he was a ghetto and in about concentration camp. Exactly. All right. My friend. I appreciate it. Esther. Thank you for your call. Let's see who else is out there, showing I think we can show a lot of regular Americans calling. That's a good thing. Pete. San Diego, California on the Mark Levin app. Go. Go. Whoa, yes. Pete speak. Please. We're running out of time. I have to tell you, you gave me a personal. Thank you, on my notes to you on at me. And I appreciate that so much. Thank you. Wanted to say that this whole thing is traveling -til mockery of sham which whole thing, which one are we talking about? I, I have to say that Wells Fargo thing is I manage financial portfolios on my clients. And I got him out of that a couple years ago, they are company, and I'm surprised that President Trump had anything in that company. All right. I don't know all that, and I'm not going to go there, because people have their own experiences with various companies, and I don't want to. Besmirch companies because of one experience or something like that. This is different. Okay. This isn't about somebody's personal experience crap. This is about a company that has decided that they are going to abandon the privacy of one of their customers a big deal a president and give his private Bank information to the Democrats to the politicians in congress headed by Maxine Waters this committee and that Wells Fargo knows what they're going to do with this information. Therefore, I will no longer be a customer of Wells Fargo period. Thank you for your call. Pete dove Long Island. New York, the great WABC go. Hi, phil..
"measles" Discussed on KDWN 720AM
"And I think I just fight just in a mood to pick a fight, you know, by the way, women and men fight differently. Guys have noticed as Ben when Ben fight just off on a tangent here. It's funny. When men fight, they fight to, like, end it their goal in a fight is two and the FIS quickly this puzzle with Corey. He would love that fight to be over with intimidates, you know, so he tries to find a way to end the fight if you hear if you guys fighting a parking lot, the like, okay is it an uppercut? What can I do to just end? This fight women are different when we fight when we fight. We fight to change the world. You know, if I fight with Corey, it's because I his behavior to change for ever, I want whatever I want to be effected from here on out for the next, like ten decades. And so that's where I'm going out with this outbreak. Okay. So this is why you know, a piece Adamy scars all burning. It's because I'm Lou frustrated years ago when we have the measles outbreak like at Disneyland and the media said, well, you know, most of the cases are unvaccinated, but some people who got these those were vaccinated so years von, Mike. Okay, can you. Please tell us how many of those cases weren't vaccinated people. Okay. I'm doctor. I'm pro vaccine. But I don't give a damn about the politics of this. I don't care if you're right. I don't care if your last one we're talking about infectious disease. We need to get to the nitty gritty and we. Need to contain diseases. I mean having these -als come back when it was essentially a radical added is a real cluster on our part so years ago. Is it? Yeah. We have kind of outbreak there Disneyland and some of the cases of people were vaccinated, but the majority were anti anti vaccine, or people who didn't want to vaccinate. And so there are others. All this blow up on the anti vaccine movement. And, you know, crucifixion of those people, and I'm like, what will Awo can somebody, please tell us, if our measles vaccine is that what if we have a new strain? I mean look what happened with protests. We kind of had a wakeup call with protests, where they said, guys looks like we need a booster. And that was great fun if we need a booster, we boast great. All right. So now hearing. And I've seen these medical articles what we got the orthodox Jews in New York, and they're anti vaccines, we need to line. We need to March him into a building, and we need to inject him on nut now that you're not going to be lining up a bunch of Jews, and you're not going to be marching them anywhere. Okay. I'm not on my watch. We've been there before. Oh, hell no. What we. We need is an appropriate conversation. We need some fats. I just want one piece of information. I want one piece of information from the CDC, or from local health departments, or from the government, or the media, I just want one little piece of information, what I want what it comes to the measles outbreak the hepatitis outbreak. Which, by the way, we have, like over a thousand cases of hepatitis A, the mumps outbreak, which has, I think, at seven eight hundred close to the measles outbreak when I want to know is how many of those people that came down with the virus, we're vaccinated. That's, that's all I need to know. I'm not making a political statement. I'm pro vaccine very pro vaccine. But if eight hundred measles cases happened in eight hundred people who are unvaccinated that tells us something, and then we can move forward from an epidemiological standpoint. But if they're saying, gal, the majority that were unvaccinated is the majority fifty point nine percent. If we have a vaccine that isn't as robust. Then we need to be it up. But nobody's telling us that, and that's why I'm starting to get a little suspicious. The fact that nobody's telling us how many of these people getting moms or getting measles. Or getting hepatitis a were vaccinated starts to make me wonder that somebody went. Oh, okay..
"measles" Discussed on KIRO Radio 97.3 FM
"Measles in your eye and he points out that the vaccine is ninety seven percent effective five cases of measles them, now been confirmed in king Pearson's home, counties this week. Your weather forecast. Partly cloudy skies through this evening. Slight chance of showers decreasing rain overnight with mostly cloudy skies overnight lows into the mid to upper forties. We'll see partly sunny skies for Saturday, highs around seventy from the car was have been point weather center meteorologist clear. Anderson is partly sunny and sixty four degrees right now in downtown Seattle Ursula ROY team from gig harbor to Greenwood these Cairo radio ninety seven three FM news and talk powered by the Pacific northwest. These candy Mike in touch on KIRO radio ninety seven three FM. Sherpur. She it you hanging out with this. Thank you for that. If you don't wanna miss anything picks word app. APP tonight. Eight nine seven three ED's. Click on the candy I can touch then you won't miss anything at all. Are we going all just act? Like Ursula said, you can get measles in your eye. We're just gonna act like she didn't just say that. It wasn't me with Dr. I know. Go get your vaccine. If you don't have one already, you know what I hope you get measles in the eye. That's going to be my. You know what? Kind of mean to say..
"measles" Discussed on KIIS 102.7
"FM back to our close brush with the measles here on staff next kiss. Found cigarettes. Smoke. Season. Q. Switch. Law the change of five seconds of summer about to launch into Ryan's roses. But listen to this. You know, you see it on the news. It's real this. Measles scare so John KOMO cheap. Who answers a lot of calls here in our phone department. He's on the staff, and he had a close brush with the measles. So John explain what was going on. And how you avoided them. Yes. So I'm a big fan. So the day that the tickets went on sale April second, I went into my tickets, and you buy them online on fandango, and you got to wait on the line. It's like a whole Coachella experience where you're like waiting to get these tickets, right? So.
"measles" Discussed on Science Friday
"So none of this is inevitable. We have certain diseases. We have vaccines that work overall. But not super effective here. We have really super effective vaccines available. So we have a solution, which is to get vaccinated. And if you're a liberal for to to to get the full schedule. Well, we've run out of time. I want to thank you very much for taking them to be with us today. We will we might get back to you Dr Omer because we're going to be tracking this story as the measles outbreak. Measles outbreak continues. Hopefully, not very much longer. Do you expect the Seaney signs might go down? We'll we'll get back to ask you about that. Dr doctors professor of global health epidemiology and pediatrics and Marie university. After the break, we're going to catch up with national poetry month, bringing back some favourite poems about science for one list. Yes. Polite applause. Stay with us. We're right back after this break. I'm Anna sale, and I'm the host of the death, sex and money podcast. At least most of the time. I'm Damon young. I'm John Cameron Mitchell. I'm Lisa Ling in for maternity leave some of our favorite past guests are having death sex money filled conversations with the people there most curious about I'm still extremely cheap. Damn it's like, there'd be session completely uncomfortable. Don't miss this series. Listen to death sex money from WNYC studios. Wherever you get your podcast. This is science Friday. I am I replied, oh, April is national poetry month. When the literary world celebrates with readings.
"measles" Discussed on Science Friday
"And protect children and protect people in general and making New York a state where only medical exemptions are allowed is one way to do that. Dr media think that tighening restrictions for exemptions is going to improve vaccination rate. So starting in two thousand six my group, and my colleagues and others then subsequently started looking at what is the nature of these laws does that impact your vaccine refusal rates and disease rates, and we found that the tighter these restrictions. The the more effective they are in reducing vaccine refusal rates and even disease rates for diseases that people have looked at. Infectious. Diseases people have looked at in case of elimination of all non medical exemptions. California's the first state that has tried. In thirty five years, we do know that dining exemptions work. California's initial indication is that they did improve their immunization coverage. But the the picture is a little bit nuance because they had an administrative crackdown on these the abuse of these exemptions, even non medical exemptions. And so therefore, it's hard to say that it was eliminating non-medical exemptions that that increased it, but nevertheless, the other modes that states can use an have used for example, adding a requirement to go to your physician to discuss the risks of non vaccination for yourself or your baby. And and others that have been shown to be highly effective in certain states. Now, we're talking about the vaccine, of course, the other two letters that is a mumps rubella, correct? Yes. Is there any sign? It's people are not getting the triple in one dose h that those other two months in rebel. L might become back or be on the rise. So in this country, we used tribal factions? In fact, there's an option of adding a fourth. Antigen in the same vaccine that some people get the very Salomon. So they are getting those specially if they're getting measles vaccines. People are getting the other two as well. But mom's here, we think is a winning immunity concept playing a role in increasing the risk of outbreaks. Let's say in young adulthood, et cetera. Rubella is is you know, we have been okay. Overall in terms of Bella. So of the three we are concerned about me those for for other reasons. Such as a refusal at cetera for moms winning, immunity, maybe playing one other question about getting how contagious is it? If he if you're in the same room with someone who who is contagious, or if even if that person has left through can you still get casino can still get it. I don't want to end up Sifi scenario, but unfortunately, measles is a very unforgiving disease. And so the reason why it's forgiving is that it hangs out in the air itself up to two hours and then beyond that if on the surface. So if someone has left the room for a couple of hours, the risk is pretty high of that transmission, and it's it is one of the most infectious common diseases that we know of wow. I don't know where I so I see why then people are really pushing to getting develops initiatives the way to stop this. Yeah. Exactly..
"measles" Discussed on Science Friday
"There are things we as a country and community can do as their though a tipping point that we need to look out for a number that if we reach it it's gonna make it really hard to come back from this. So probability takes over or to cast city takes over when you're close to these numbers because for two reasons first of all. All that coverage or vaccination rates are not homogeneous across the country or across populations. And so are populations who have that have higher rates and other populations where you have clusters of even lower rates. And so so what you start seeing is larger and more frequent outbreaks of do approach that number at at a broader national level. So that's what we are seeing and that's a little bit concerning. So unfortunately, it's not that a single number. But as you get close to that number you start seeing these phenomena happening. Okay. You mentioned the word herd immunity. We've heard it we've heard her immunity, quite a while give us a definition of that terminology. So a simple definition is that if you protect a certain proportion of that bop in the population the virus or a bacterium, depending on the disease doesn't get find enough susceptible people's to take hold in that community. So if you introduce a case the epidemic dies out almost. On its own. And so so that's the level of protection at the population level. The percentage protected is called the so-called herd immunity threshold and the broader phenomenon that a fraction of population. Or a proportion of population is protecting everyone, including those who are too young to be vaccinated and are not vaccinated due to immuno compromised status is that overall phenomenon is called herd, immunity or community immunity or herd protection. Let's go through some of the questions people have first of all does the vaccine you get when you are baby ever go away. So we don't have any evidence of winning immunity against measles. And so we should be protected for a long long time. If you have followed the schedule accordingly, especially if you have gotten to those of vaccine in your childhood, so I- evidence suggests that at least for measles, this winning immunity phenomenon is not. Much of a concern. I have heard of people, you know, who said that they have gotten two doses of vaccine and had gone to their doctor to see if they're immune, and they they are no longer immune there, you know, millennials no longer immune. So at at the population that's different phenomenon. But, you know, not even our most effective intervention in any field or not a really hundred percent effective. And so there will be a small fraction and the good thing is with two doses. The efficacy ineffectiveness of measles vaccine schedule as a whole is ninety seven percent. So when you're talking about ninety seven percent, they will be a small fraction, which even after those would not be protected, but that's less of a concern in terms of the population level policy etcetera, and from a public perspective than to get people to those are you ever too old to get the vaccine. No. So so you can get vaccine pretty much any age after you become ill. So you become a liberal after twelve months under your teen circumstances in there are situations. For example, when a baby is traveling where you give the vaccine a little bit earlier than the twelve month. I that that has given before two months and insert an outbreak situations, generally if you if you getting the vaccine. On schedule. You're not too young to get it after twelve months and not too old to get it. If you're getting a little bit later. I've also heard that if you were born before nineteen sixty or so you've probably been exposed to the virus in for you are naturally Muniz. Is there any truth today? Yes, is so we in this country have this concept of evidence of immunity, so see the CDC based on evidence from epidemiological studies and other evidence suggests that that broadly four criteria for evidence of immunity, first of all if you have written evidence that you have required received.
"measles" Discussed on KFI AM 640
"Now who they say have the measles, and they're looking at or they're putting the word out the LAX, Tom, Bradley International gate on April. First UCLA, April. Second fourth and ninth CS UCLA in the library from April eleventh lockin yada front, Flint ridge, El Pollo loco. Yeah. I just well we're going to see that expand. You're going to be making reports like that every day as a measles outbreak expands and a couple of things number one the anti vacs. People are still out there saying that this is caused by measles is caused by the measles vaccine. But for it wouldn't even happen. Some crazy ass statement that they're willing to make also what I didn't know last night. It was reported on the news that measles is the most contagious disease known to science known to medical science that was reported on NBC. I had no idea. That's probably why they're putting out. These alerts this morning now, you have the if you think you think you weren't even been in an area that has it do not go to your doctor's office alcohol because if you walk into the room, and you do have it. In fact, everybody there, and this is a story in the same vein about a doctor who is a general practitioner who deals with in. If someone is complaining about measles. He's seeing them out in the hall. No kidding. Not letting them in the weight in the room. Yup. Not letting them in the waiting room. Yeah. It's just it's crazy the Musil's. And so we'll see how big this thing spreads keep in mind twenty years ago. Meetal measles was radically. Yeah. That's what's so crazy that it's back now. Well, the anti why was it a radical because of the vaccine because of inoculations and now it is back with the fervor and the more people that have the measles. This is going to be hilarious with the antibac- people. It's because more people are being vaccinated. So it helps them their argument. If this thing really spreads like wildfire. You see it's the measles vaccine this causing all of this. I mean, they're crazy. All right. Let's take a break. We'll come back and do bore Jennifer Jones sleep a soda.
"measles" Discussed on WTMJ 620
"The conversation got a couple of minutes left on vaccines, anti vaccination mints started with the story. I read earlier this week percent of the of the school children in New York City, which is a big school district are not unionized for things like measles polio. Hepatitis the flu? There's a lot of shots. You can get. And I understand there's there's two sides on this. I'm on the sides of people getting vaccination is. But I understand there's people that are on the other side of that. Let's talk to sandy in Milwaukee your WTMJ. Good morning, sandy morning. When I mentioned to your screener is that I have had the experience that with having children get their vaccination as you said your little guy got all of his vaccinations at once they got four back, right? Right. Right. Those vaccinations can be split up. So that they do not have to be given all at one time. And that would give you if there's a problem with a vaccination, you know, exactly which vaccine gave the child problem. Yeah. Actually, I've heard that that story that testimony from solar full says, well, they apparent expressed concern that they're all being given at the same time. I think some Don thanks for the call. I think some doctors have actually said we'll space them out to make you feel more comfortable, but we still we still think that these are important for your child to get an in some cases, the parents go, you know, what we're here. Let's get them because it is a bit of an ordeal. I might my my younger daughter Chris had a child in January and his name is Cooper. And he went for his shots last weekend. And we all know the story, right? Took a picture of him before the shots happy smiling. And he just started smiling recently little less than three months old. And then there's the the moments I think it was. The third shot in when young Cooper realizes. This is not a fun experience because you're getting a shot in your Thia believe and that is traumatic. My my my wife, my daughter was crying on the phone who who wants to see that. But ultimately, it's about doing the right thing if your kid, and if you can save your kid from the measles or some of the other dreaded diseases mumps all those things now hepatitis the all these things flu, I took a flu shot this year have done that for many years. I'm not afraid of that process. And I think parents are going to have decision to make he want to send your kids to school. There's pretty strict protocols for what you have to do to qualify them to go. Then you have some alternate choices. Right. You can home school, and you can do some online school stuff. But is that going to be the next thing we're going to blow those populations of student populations? Because parents don't want to give the kids vaccinated trust me. I know this is not an easy one. Nobody wants to see your kid cry people have concerns somewhat some legitimate. They've heard the horror stories sometimes it's urban myth. Sometimes it's people they're scaring other people because they believe that vaccines are dangerous. I don't happen to believe that I think we can calm down. But when I see the levels of exposure, and the number of people reporting that the measles exploding in this country to the level where the CDC's now, saying, look, educate communicate get out your communities. Tell them vaccines work. We shouldn't be surprised that that's where we're going here. And I and I appreciate all the folks on both sides for the intelligent conversation. Email text in on the phone. Awesome stuff..
"measles" Discussed on KTTH 770AM
"Perhaps, you shouldn't have a a measles party top am I exaggerating here? There's a measles party sound like the worst party you've ever been invited to. And that's why I don't go to those anymore. Just just leave it that are they invited. By the way. I'm just thinking like the mechanics of this. You send out any come to my measles party. I mean, so we'll be served white rot white wine. I got. Yeah. I got the Email. The dots. Me very I'm just like I'm just trying to think of why would he serve? How do you make the invite you send snail mail card reminders or is e vite pretty quickly through the air. So I mean, you get the get the sodas. Measles apparent. Yeah. Yeah. No. But yeah. In my experience have been they have pizza and hopefully contract measles. If we're lucky what party, if you're lucky, if you're one of the brave view. All right. What's next? What's trending? Let's get political. Let's get political. That's right. So of CNN. Is making a well really the the democrat party and their their fan boys in the media CNN being one of them for sure. Harping on Donald Trump's tax returns. Oh. I don't think really.
"measles" Discussed on StarTalk Radio
"Of the lowest rates of vaccine preventable disease in the nation. So just took a real example took a real example sounds like you need a better PR campaign. You know, it's what you need you need you need, Mr. measles. Mickey measles, Ricky measles. Right. Well, you know, I I mean just to be sober for a moment. I'm one of the few people that could say as an American I've actually held a child in my arms that died of measles in my arms. There's very few people in my generation, and certainly in younger generations that have ever even seen the disease and doctors today have hard time diagnosing diptheria or whooping cough for you know, even chickenpox say, they they just haven't seen them. And it creates a lot of resistance in the public mind, you know, my favorite objection, which I have often heard is, you know, it's not that. I think there's any of the most laughable addiction. No, it's it's the one that's kind of the in vogue at the moment. Okay. It's not that there's anything specifically some nasty chemical in the vaccine is just that they're giving too many vaccines. My children can't take so many. They need to space mount more. They can't. And I always say look a baby has only two jobs two jobs. One look at everything and listen to everything to finish the hard wiring of your brain until learn language, and you know, what's going on in your world. And the second job pick everything up at stick it in your mouth lick it slobber all over it grab another kid slobber all over them your programming your immune system in any given day. A kid is picking up more junk off the floor and throwing it in into program. Their immune system than is contained in all the various shots. They will have for their entire life nowadays. Infants aren't getting all that though because parents are crazy. But if what we know is if you don't do the grovel on the Frank stick the dirt in your face you end up with asthma you end up with auto immune diseases because you've never properly got your immune system, knowing what is foreign and what is. Friend. My sister has a barn. And she makes sure when they had their kid had the Kuala round the floor of the bar. Yeah. He he he's he doesn't get sick. All his friends have all these allergies. He's got no allergies. I wonder if third children are healthier than I children because of that. Oh, well, wait, always. Let's there for nothing touches the first camp. But the third kid, right? Then the parents are like go, whatever, you know, whatever. We should study that Felicia next one next question. Okay. Alana from star talk radio dot net. I understand that science points to the benefits of XI's, but there's still so much fear and disbelief as to the benefits versus harm. I would like to know why they use the chemicals and preservatives. They use aluminum formaldehyde coloring polysorbates. Why that why haven't they moved forward with better vaccine technology, and what is the real statistics around the effectiveness versus injury in children and adults long question. Well, let me take the preservatives part because that is the objection that has been most commonly raised amongst those that fear. There's a contaminant that will poison their child, and then sort from the vaccine itself. Yep. That's used because you want the vaccine to be stored. You don't wanna have to make it every day. Right. And especially when you're going overseas into humid hot climates. And so on you need you need advice. Seem to be able to withstand a range of temperatures. And so on in the past. We're talking nineteen fifties. Nineteen sixty seventeen seventies there were some preservatives used that contain mercury methyl mercury and ethyl mercury. And there were some that contain the mercury family. Mercury. Mercury. And there were you know, other preservatives us, but they've been greatly greatly reduced, and in fact, all the mercury containing ones were banned by the FDA quite a long time ago and worldwide mostly what's done has more to do with the storage. And how you store the vaccines than what preservatives you put in the vaccine. So we've greatly reduced all of those threats..
"measles" Discussed on KNST AM 790
"Chip is three thirty seven hundred. That's triple lazy seven three three seven hundred. There appears to be a case of unchecked power within the fourth vaccination lobby. Those who mingled science and politics report this perspective. They see the antibac- movement is an organized attack. In a danger to their well being in a danger to our well-being as well. And this is where the argument goes from matter of health to a matter of freedom when we're looking at possible forced inoculations on children and the whole measles outbreak sparking this debate on whether or not we should be heavy handed enforcing parents have their kids vaccinated against measles. They should be but many people don't do that. They don't vaccinate against reasons, but they're really cracking down and getting angry mean the US vaccine scheduled calls for twenty six vaccine doses before the age of one. And there are some say, no, we can't do this because of philosophical reasons, health reasons there's exemptions. Okay. And they're trying to eliminate the exemptions. But more than not they want to lawmakers want to push. Issues crackdown on information crackdown on on parents. You know, avoiding the issue of inoculating the kids lawmakers like democratic congressman Adam Schiff from California has pushed YouTube into democratizing all videos on that platform any video. It pushes it. Antibac- sedation. Message YouTube said it would prevent channels that promote antibac- content for money advertising saying explicitly that such videos fall under its policy prohibiting the modernization of videos with what they call dangerous and harmful content. The move comes after their advertisers, YouTube advertisers, pulled their ads from these videos. They claim that it was contributing to the exploitation of children YouTube is under investigation for other exploited videos, and of course, last night, we heard about Momo which many people declared a hoax, but YouTube has been under microscope lately with the harmful videos that children have seen. So in addition to you, monetize ING, antibiotics content. Youtube has introduced new information panels, pertaining toback scenes, previously information panels appeared on antibiotics videos explicitly mentioned, the measles mumps rubella vaccine only and only described what MMR the vaccine is for and then linked into its. Pedia page. Well, now considerably larger number of antibac- videos. Have an information panel linked to the Wikipedia page for vaccine hesitancy where does this drive as one of the top ten global health threats of two thousand nineteen according to the World Health Organization. Someone just actually tweet tweeted me. And he said when I was talking about the the national health powers emergencies act Powers Act. Gentlemen, or or or woman? I know it was someone with a with a strange name said the national emergency while only applies to military construction required for specific defensive read the statute, it can't be used for other things. Not true. It can be used for other things they don't necessarily have to declare a bio attack. All they have to do is declare an unspecified emergency. And they can actually criminalize people who do not vaccinate their kids. They can call them bioterrorists. And that they're allowing for a a bio a biological attack on other kids that they don't want to get sick. So they can order that. It's it's a biological imperative. The kids get inoculated for for things like measles. So, you know, just because it sounds draconian is draconian just because it you don't think you'll enacted. They're kind of doing that. Now when they wanna talk about shutting down information on the on the. On YouTube eliminating any mention a vaccine hesitancy because it is a health threat. According to the CDC World Health Organization vaccine hesitancy is one of the biggest threats to us in two thousand nineteen according to the WHO so technically YouTube Google there are a private company, so they are entitled to create the policies that they feel are best for their business. However as many of argued the connections between these private companies, and the government are more than peripheral. So obviously with a democratic congressman involved. I mean, doesn't this look like there is a government gender behind all this. Yeah. I think so I mean, this is a stark reminder that we're entering an age of government meddling into what we read see and hear, and it can be said that a technological platform can be seen as an incubator for geopolitical agendas, and it is because this is where all the discussion goes. So you ability to deliver any alternative information is severely restricted by the algorithm as well as any financial reward for providing the service of information in delivery of that information. It's like the mob breaking the legs of someone that doesn't comply. And this is this is something that I think needs to be discussed because when do we reach a point where freedom he's taken away. And that is forcing your children to be inaugurated, forcing you to force your kids into being inoculated. I mean, where where are the rights and do you support the idea of forced inoculations of children? I'd like to hear if you do or if you don't triple eight six seven three thirty seven hundred that's triple eight six seven three thirty seven hundred good Mary in Washington. Hi, Mary, you're on ground zero. Thanks for having tonight. Got a couple of queens is like make a tiny. But first and foremost, I think one of the issues is what? Him we've seen aborted baby feeders cells are being used by Merck and genetech envy, his inoculations. And we also know that they win those hit all of the, you know, maybe being inaugurated its actually changing their DNA strand to be addressed. I think that's pretty scary. Into one number two. The CDC got busted knowing that say, Mary salt causes autism in a book called master manipulator read it by of it. Yes. Yeah. I've heard of it. Yeah. Yeah. It's a really interesting. And then he tell Senator has already head and push his initiative sports to the point where mothers and fathers can't even in holder children in daycare. Oh, things like this without their vaccinations like crazy. So they're making it mandatory they won't let him go in. I mean, what about if you object or for for philosophical reasons for health reasons, there's no objections whatsoever. And I believe that's really the main reason there was a huge exodus out of California starting to think of a twenty fourteen. Kim went ahead and. All went. They all went to Washington where you apparently. In Washington, Arizona. We realize the Clark county, you realize that Clark county the whole area there in Washington is at the is it the I guess the the forefront of this this whole debate and controversy. Tonight. Yeah, they're not taking into to the mall. There's an area actually Cobra malware a lot of parents are not taking their children in the mall at all anymore. And you know, so they're going to your sales over the mall. I mean, it's ridiculous. This whole thing is one thing. I really to point out to parents listening in on. This isn't just like twenty nineteen this back in nineteen fifteen. There was a man whose daughter was thirteen years old. She went to public school public school where they were forced to go to public school in eighteen fifty at gunpoint by army, but let's just say so she had a smallpox inoculation without their parents of knowing that she died, and he's the one that invented raggedy Ann, and Andy Exxon, the is those creepy dolls when here Ted he did that patented that dawn put that forward. So that people would know what the heck is going on back in nineteen fifteen. This is an all this is basically operation paper clip on. Ray? Well, I mean, I would just say this. I think that with selective data with the way the media pushes issues and agendas with the way politicians like Adam Schiff metal into into YouTube or other technical platforms in order to get their way. I believe I it's that important to them to push these issues and these agendas, they're hiding something. There's something that they're hiding. I think we'd all boils down to what I said in the beginning. It's about money the loss of money all this money. They put into these ineffective vaccines that they went up before. So the American people, and I like I said the last time I spoke about this. I said, you know, they market these things like their Coca Cola and McDonald's, they don't. And I thought to myself why is it so important that they advertise and push these things like okay, buy one get one free or hey, you get a flu shot you get twenty five percents off your groceries at WalMart. It just irritates me that this is what they call coerced people into getting their vaccines. Yeah. Well, I if you asked me, I think it all comes down the language when you start using words like child and on appearance on you really got a good blacks law dictionary. And look that judicial guardianship actually means when you using words like mother and father son and daughter, then you're going to start seeing the light in the breakthrough in these, you know, getting away from these statutory laws because you know, these statutes and codes, I'm sorry, but we don't follow Jessica policy and regulate I'm sorry. That's a lot Simba. You know, we're we're being marginalized into these areas that oh, we all think that statue in code law. Regulation policies for us. But it's not and it's through the language that were being you know, that were being stumped is language. It's criteria. It's it's it's the typical avoidance of the ignorance, it's selecting certain statistics and not giving the statistics down hearing both sides of.
"measles" Discussed on KDWN 720AM
"US. Food regulators say. Say they weren't able to identify contamination source for a food poisoning outbreak that prompted them to warn people to avoid Romain lettuce. This fall. Remember, it was right before thanksgiving that they were telling us not to eat the romaine lettuce the food and Drug administration says it wasn't able to determine how the water reservoir on the Santa Barbara County, California farm became contaminated with E coli. It also says the water reservoir doesn't explain how let us from other farms may have been contaminated and the FDA says the leafy greens short shelf life makes it difficult to investigate such outbreaks but the centers for disease control and prevention says there's always a risk of food borne illness when eating raw produce the centers for disease control and prevention says there have been more than one hundred cases of the measles since the beginning of this year alone more than half of them concentrated in Washington state. That's where officials say forty seven of the fifty three confirmed cases are people who weren't immunized against it. But health officials say this outbreak. Is boosting vaccination and awareness among anti vaccine measles is really scary. Because it is so contagious. If a person with measles is in a room with ten other people who are unvaccinated nine of them will get measles. It's also frightening because somebody can transmit measles four days before they have the rash. That means they can transmit even before they know that their infectious unvaccinated Americans put themselves their families and their communities at risk from easels. The best way to stop measles is to make sure that everybody receives the measles vaccine. Unfortunately, I think we see a similar trend in a lot of parts of healthcare is that it takes that heart attack or that stroke for people to take their hypertension seriously. And I would hope that I specially something like childhood immunizations that trend might not be the same. But it kind of turns. Out that it is. And sometimes it does take their being a tangible risk for people to be a little bit more motivated to get the recommended care. In addition.
"measles" Discussed on KTRH
"In houston. Illegal aliens with this highly viral condition. Over the weekend. I was reading about cases of measles. Individuals illegal aliens who've been detained who have had an outbreak of measles. And I was reading this weekend. That measles is so contagious. The person can be standing in a room. And sneeze walk out of the room. And over an hour later you walk into that room and the particles from that room can infect you with measles, simply by breathing the vapor in the air that they exhaled. There's no punch line. It's not a joke. Now. Here's the reality. The United States is a very healthy nation. Our public health we've managed to eradicate a number of conditions that don't sufficiently scare you because you've never seen him. But they plague third world countries. Now, if you just aren't allowing. Anyone from anywhere to come into this country. They slide into your population infected as some of them will be with diseases now, etc. At a racist statement, I suppose if you think everything is racist. It's a public health reality. It's a public health. Reality borne out by the data. If you want to bring public health crises highly viral conditions back into our country our schools, our hospitals our streets. Did this would be a great way to do that? And it won't be until that problem rears its head again. That we say, oh, oh, this was a real issue because it took an inordinate amount of effort to eradicate those conditions within our walls. But then our walls. And other countries have not been able to do that. Other countries have not been able to do that. So that their populations suffer from things.
"measles" Discussed on KFI AM 640
"Epidemic. Now, let me explain what that means when it turns out, and I actually knew this because a week prior. I had a patient come in who knew the situation of this particular outbreak in that is we do have a fairly large Slavic in Russian population. And they tend to not vaccinate as much and there were a couple of churches in south west Washington where you had people in church largely unvaccinated exposed to a case of measles. So the entire outbreak started in that location. The one case in Oregon was a family member of that community and the three new cases yesterday, we're family members of the one case. And so even our our our health officials website announcement today that there's three more cases, it's states. There is no added risk of community exposure. So our health officials have done a wonderful job of. Defining those who do have the measles. Stay home. Don't go out into the community. And they're so sure that there's no community risk that they wouldn't even take that sample from my office. We hear so many horror stories about the MR vaccine the measles mumps rubella. And I don't tell people Dr Paul to get vaccines. I don't tell them not to get vaccines. I just tell them what I do. And I don't get the flu shot, for example. And I don't I can't remember when I had the flu it's been.
"measles" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK
"York City to the world, Tom. So we're talking about this measles outbreak. And the fact that it primarily from the state of Washington, but it has spread and there are a number of other states as well. There was remember there was a case similar back in January of two thousand fifteen so same month, wintertime, you know. But it Disneyland. The people Disney were going crazy because they figured out that it came from Disneyland somebody at Disneyland who had the measles, and they spread it to the other kids around them, and it spread to the other kids around them and off it was running. And so the last caller said, well, this isn't the bubonic plague. But if you look at the history. We have. About one hundred and was there one hundred and twenty three deaths from eighty nine to ninety wandering the last outbreak. You go down that Lewis, and we used to have. Many many deaths to the tune of hundred plus two thousand fourteen was the worst year. But that that is that includes everybody in the world. So it look it. You wanna roll the dice? Maybe your child will get the measles, and they won't die. Probably they won't. But there are deaths from the measles. The other thing about it is. So I mean, yeah, she's right? I mean, it's not the blue Blahnik book booboo plague. But it is it something that it has been a radical until people said, I'm not going to get any sort of of vaccination. You're supposed to get two doses. One dose is ninety three percents effective two doses. I guess a few years apart from each other a ninety ninety seven percent effective. So then she mentioned Sheryl Atkinson. I like, Cheryl she's super great investigative reporter used to be with CBS while she was at CBS. She did a story about a little girl Hannah poling, and she was described as a normal happy precocious little girl up to the first eighteen months, then after she was vaccinated against nine diseases in one doctor's visit measles. Mumps? Rubella polio virus Sela, diptheria tosa, protests, tetanus and influenza afterward or health declined. She came down with off. She was diagnosed with autism. And the parents went to court and the jury said, Yep. We think those vaccinations caused her autism. And so a jury not a bunch of doctors ruled. Yes, one equals the other the doctor say and all the medical people say, not all but the the health groups out there. Say that. This vaccination is terrific. And this thing about autism is absolutely a myth. So it comes down to who. Who do you believe? And that's why I say you've got to do business with the doctor. That you that you trust. Not you gotta leave and find another doctor. Eight five five two nine five sixty six hundred Lisa in California. Hello, lisa. Hi, tom. How are you? I'm doing great. What's going on? There's a there's another perspective that I'm sure a lot of people aren't considering. I I have a friend whose son was born without a spleen. So his immunization who immunization is compromised. That sick. So he just started kindergarten. And there was a bunch of kids in his class that have don't have all their shots and it puts his health at risk. Not just there's it puts his two and his mother doesn't have a choice in that. I don't think that's fair. I think you know, if you're not going to immunize your child homeschooling, don't send cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or yeah. I know the government schools the public schools, but they still have rules, and you should have follow them or you don't get to participate in what they're doing. I agree with you home school fight a private school were fine. Let's have a school where they put all the measles kids. Go there. Yeah. They used to have parties. Yeah. Yeah. We we did that with chicken pox with our kids. Yeah. I don't remember. Them chicken pox, and let them and let them get all get chicken, pox and minute overdone by. I don't remember do you do you know, what you were vaccinated with the four or not or I don't have any clue. I don't know if anybody does maybe. Yeah. But you even know records, and maybe I'm maybe I'm just a bad, dad. But I don't remember what children cut vaccinated with either. I just whatever the pediatrician wanted to do. I said fine. I didn't ask my husband is not a vaccination person. But I just didn't tell him. And I did it anyways. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't want to get in. I don't wanna get into your marriage about secrets. That's the only one there is okay. He's probably listening. So all right. Lisa. Thank you. We're going to cause all kinds of problems here today. Eight five five two nine five sixty six hundred who do you believe? Who do you believe of the the antibiotics crowd or your doctor? Teeth in Reno Nevada Hulo Keith. How are you doing today, sir? Doing great. Thank you. Yeah. I guess my thought on this would be has the vaccine changed from back in the day to present. Because a possibly different strains of the measles for it might be a little bit more intense of a vaccination. I don't know. I've been reading in preparation for this show. As much as I could about measles. And I haven't seen anything that says that the backs team was changed. It was it was discovered back in like I said the nineteen sixties and I haven't read where but I'm not really medical journals either. So maybe a doctor or a nurse can help us out with all of this. But. They also talk about the measles virus is pretty much. That sounds like it's the same virus that's been around for a long long time. And also could it be like maybe again, just another thought maybe the strain is coming from different? Say ethnic groups or anything or say like new migrants have come in maybe with like a different type of stream. Yeah. That is a little bit more resistant to the vaccines that we have going now. I haven't seen a thing on the sin fact, almost everything is written in a global sense about because they done an amazing job of knocking down the disease globally. We by far the north and South America by far have been the most successful until now all of a sudden is making a big comeback. But when it comes to where the measles were the most prevalent were in the western Pacific region and in Africa. Those were the two that were the worst European region was third those are the three big areas of the world. But Africa's numbers are way down from where they were the western Pacific region was down. But now it's going back up. I comes down to who. Do you believe? Because I'm I'm not a scientist. I'm not a doctor you better trust somebody. And if you don't trust your doctor, it there's another whole set of questions that go with that. You know, that's the number one thing, especially when you're dealing with your child you want somebody. That's very, you know, up forward and very trusting that you can trust on that. So yeah, the fact that not too many children die doesn't give me a lot of comfort. Oh, okay. Well, let's roll the dice with my child's life. Let's see what happens. I don't know. All right. Good point. I'm glad you called. Thank you, Keith. Eight five five two nine five sixty six hundred again, you can find all the ways to contact the show by going to my website. Tom Sullivan dot com, the podcast or they're all the phone numbers of there. We'll take a short break and come right back. Don't go away..