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"mcmafia" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

Bloomberg Radio New York

07:59 min | 10 months ago

"mcmafia" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

"A Pacific storms got 7 million Californians and nevadans under flash flood warnings while heavy rains are also expected in the upper Midwest including the Chicago region House speaker Nancy Pelosi says Democrats are nearing a deal to pass President Biden's economic agenda Pelosi says she's optimistic about the progress on two major big bills won the social spending plan that's been caught up in an ongoing fight between moderates and progressives Doctor Anthony Fauci saying it's probably a good idea to stick with the same vaccine when getting a booster But in recent interviews they don't study show the mixing and matching is also fine A small earthquake shook up the Los Angeles area early today the geological survey says the quake centered near the community of maywood and we know who played game one of the World Series Tuesday night in Houston The Astros take on Atlanta after the braves beat out the Dodgers last night four to two It'll be the first trip for the braves to the fall classic in 22 years I'm Scott Carr I'm Barry riddles you're listening to masters and business on Bloomberg radio My special guest this week is a kinder sing Cassidy She is a tech exec and serial entrepreneur as well as the former president of StubHub Her new book choose possibility take risks and thrive even when you fail is out and is getting excellent reviews Let's talk a little bit starting with your role as president of StubHub what was that like Did you have any surprising challenges you had to deal with in that role I feel like that's the leading question Just a touch But certainly I'm happy to share So I ran StubHub from 2018 to 2020 in that time There's a lot of surprises Some I could have anticipated in some I couldn't First of all just a phenomenal and fun experience If you've ever been in a business of live experiences and giving that gift to people of live there's just really nothing like it And I'm also happy to be a big sports entertainment fan So that doesn't hurt But when I think about the things that we're surprises number one StubHub if you know the history was bought by eBay over ten years ago And so was an eBay subsidiary And I could have anticipated that eBay would continue to face shareholder pressure because it wasn't growing at the same rate as Amazon and its margins were declining And in fact that shareholder pressure came to pass and activist Elliot two activists joined the board Starboard and Elliott in 2020 Yes No no in 19 my goodness In January of 2019 and put pressure on the CEO the then CEO to sell stuff hub as opposed to hold it So midway I was only a year into my tenure when an activist joined eBay board and quickly became apparent that we were going to end up selling the company and I was going to be leading a sale process which is not necessarily what I personally wanted But so that I could have anticipated in sense that eBay had an activist was before And certainly when I took the StubHub job it did occur to me that that would be one potential risk that eBay self my parents got me to face pressure I expected more earnings pressure pressure to deliver our numbers every quarter There was an outside possibility of an activist that that came to pass and that led to the sale of the company to step up sales The Onyx the other unexpected event was COVID And ironically StubHub sold for a record job $4 billion we led a process that led to a successful transaction that closed on February 13th 2020 And I thought as much as I was personally disappointed you know I recognize it as a very successful business outcome And I was going to go have to find a new job because very rarely does the acquired company get to have a CEO around the combined company And I certainly was not getting that job The original founders that have bought back the company and he wanted to run the combined company There's a thing with you and founders coming back to run companies That's the keep in mind I've also been a founder three times Right right So I do understand that founder CEO dynamic and as I said I mean founders have an affinity for their companies that is really hard to I don't know It's just hard to put any price tag or any Sure Let's jump to our favorite questions that we ask all of our guests starting with Tell us what you've been streaming these days Give us your favorite Netflix or Amazon Prime or podcast whatever's keeping you entertained during the pandemic Sure Well I probably have three that are at the top of my list these days First of all Ted Lasso I know that my family loves so good So that's the feel good funny funny show So well done Season two not so good at season one but I will just say we're still Ted lots of diehards On Amazon a girlfriend of mine recommended mcmafia which is actually a pretty interesting for those of you who like I would say finance or financial services and the mob It's a fictional series on a British Russian financier who gets involved with the wrong folks That's a really niche one and an interesting one It's been a great series to watch Succession I'm waiting for season two I mean we all watch the session And then I would say on the podcast side right now actually I am listening to two separate podcasts about Elizabeth Holmes trial ones to drop out from ABC and the other one is out for a bad blood from John kiryu who as you know the original kind of journalist on this story So I like listening to smart people It is just keeping your breath done On the trail Really interesting stuff Tell us about some of your mentors who helped shape your career Well first of all my dad I always talk about the fact that he was a doctor but he was also an entrepreneur And he really loved working for himself And I think he made the idea of entrepreneurship so accessible for me Remember he's also the guy who told me to take that trade trip down to New York that led to the job with Merrill Lynch If there was ever a champion of possibilities even small ones all the time it was my father So he is my preeminent mentor for sure And then I think the other group I had point to is you know I've been lucky to have a lot of great people I worked for They often are my best mentors because they know me well And I know that I'm well All the tried jungly We talked about those four Indian entrepreneurs who started that company that I joined I mean my God they became an angel investors in yodeling My next company they introduced me that opportunity one of them raw I'm sharing around with the first investor in Google So when I made the decision to go to Google and they called me with because rob pushed both of us he pushed them to call me and me to consider it And you know when the situation went awry as polyvore the number one person I called was a guy named thank you Harry and I and one of those jungly founders and the one I was closest to to continue to know me and invested in all the companies I founded And I just said what do I do here And he was the one who sort of gave me the look me straight in the eye are these people you tried Do they have your values advice and tell me to get the hell out I really consider thank you probably the closest among that group But all four have been very instrumental in my career Let's talk a little bit about books What are some of your favorites and what are you reading right now Well one of my favorites I'm like a very kind of sneaky business person sometimes I don't like to read all business books but there's some I really love One of my favorites is McKinsey's gross beyond the hockey stick So if you're a leader or CEO who's ever grappling with how to get your company to grow faster and obviously it's stub hub I was trying to accelerate growth.

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"mcmafia" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

Bloomberg Radio New York

06:54 min | 10 months ago

"mcmafia" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

"You're listening to masters and business on Bloomberg radio My special guest this week is second sing Cassidy She is a tech exec and serial entrepreneur as well as the former president of StubHub Her new book choose possibility take risks and thrive even when you fail is out and is getting excellent reviews Let's talk a little bit starting with your role as president of StubHub what was that like Did you have any surprising challenges You had to deal with in that role I feel like that's the leading question Just a touch But certainly I'm happy to share So I ran StubHub from 2018 to 2020 in that time There's a lot of surprises Some I could have anticipated in some I couldn't First of all just a phenomenal and fun experience If you've ever been in a business of live experiences and giving that gift to people of why there's just really nothing like it And I'm also happy to be a big sports entertainment fan So that doesn't hurt But when I think about the things that we're surprises number one StubHub if you know the history was bought by eBay over ten years ago And so it was an eBay subsidiary And I could have anticipated that eBay would continue to face shareholder pressure because it wasn't growing at the same rate As Amazon and its margins were declining and in fact that shareholder pressure came to pass and activist Elliot two activists joined the board Starboard and Elliott in 2020 No no in 19 my goodness In January of 2019 and put pressure on the CEO the then CEO to sell stuff hub as opposed to hold it So midway I was only a year into my tenure when an activist joined eBay board and quickly became apparent that we were going to end up selling the company and I was going to be leading a sale process which is not necessarily what I personally wanted But so that I could have anticipated in a sense that eBay had an activist once before And certainly when I took the StubHub job it did occur to me that that would be one potential risk that eBay itself my parents got me with face pressure I expected more earnings pressure pressure to deliver our numbers every quarter There was an outside possibility of an activist The fact came in the past and that led to the sale of the company to step up sales The honest the other unexpected event with COVID And ironically StubHub sold for a record stop $4 billion We led a process that led to a successful transaction that closed on February 13th 2020 And I thought as much as I was personally disappointed you know I recognize it was a very successful business outcome And I was going to go have to find a new job because very rarely was the acquired company get to have a CEO on the combined company And I certainly was not getting that job The original founders StubHub bought back the company and he wanted to run the combined company There's a thing with you and founders coming back to run companies That's the keep in mind I've also been a founder three times right So I do understand that founder CEO dynamic and as I said I mean founders have an affinity for their companies that is really hard to I don't know It's just hard to put any price tag or any Sure Let's jump to our favorite questions that we ask all of our guests starting with Tell us what you've been streaming these days Give us your favorite Netflix or Amazon prime or podcast whatever's keeping you entertained during the pandemic Sure Well I probably have three that are at the top of my list these days First of all Ted Lasso I know that he'll be my family So that's a feel good funny funny show So well done Season two not so good a season one but I will just say we're still Ted lapse of diehards On Amazon a girlfriend of mine recommended mcmafia which is actually a pretty interesting for those of you who like I would say finance or financial services and the mob It's a fictional series on a British Russian financier who gets involved with the wrong folks That's a really niche one and an interesting one It's been a great series to watch Succession I'm waiting for season two and we all watch the session And then I would say on the podcast side right now actually I am looking to do separate podcasts about Elizabeth Holmes trial once to drop out from ABC and the other one is bad blood from John kiryu who as you know the original kind of journalist on this story So I like listening to smart people It is just keeping your breath done On the trail Really interesting stuff Tell us about some of your mentors who helped shape your career Well first of all my dad I always talked about the fact that he was a doctor but he was also an entrepreneur And he really loved looking for himself And I think he made the idea of entrepreneurship so accessible for me Remember he's also the guy who told me to take that trade trip down to New York that led to the job of Merrill Lynch like if there was ever a champion of possibilities even small ones all the time it was my father So he is my preeminent mentor for sure And then I think the other group I'd point to is you know I've been lucky to have a lot of great people I worked for They often are my best mentors because they know me well And I know that well All the tribe jungly we talked about those four Indian entrepreneurs who started that company that I joined I mean my God they became an angel investors in yodeling My next company they introduced me that opportunity one of them rahm sherri rom was the first investor in Google So when I made the decision to go to Google and they called me with because rob pushed both of us he pushed them to call me and me to consider it And when the situation went awry as polyvore the number one person I called was a guy named Becky Harry and her eye and one of those jungly founders and the one I was closest to to continue to know me and invested in all the companies I founded And I just said what do I do here And he was the one who could have gave me the look me straight in the eye or these people you tried Do they have your values advice and told me to get the hell out I really consider thank you probably the closest among that group But all four have been very instrumental in my career Let's talk a little bit about books What are some of your favorites and what are you reading right now Well one of my favorites I'm like a very kind of sneaky business person sometimes I don't like to read all business books but they sell my really love One of my favorites is McKinsey's gross beyond the hockey stick So if you're a leader or CEO who's.

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"mcmafia" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

Bloomberg Radio New York

08:09 min | 10 months ago

"mcmafia" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

"Is Bloomberg 11 three O Now a global news update No trespassing signs are posted outside the home of Bryan laundry's family the signs went up along the home's perimeter today as media cruise continued their stake out of the property remains found in Florida's Carlton nature reserve this week were positively identified as the 23 year olds authorities described laundry as the only person of interest in Gabby potatoes homicide Police in New Mexico say actor Alec Baldwin was told the prop gun he was using on set was safe The New York Times reports an assistant director grabbed a prop gun and yelled cold gun meaning the weapon did not have any live rounds director of photography Helena Hutchins was killed when Baldwin pulled the trigger Thursday and filmed director Joel Souza was also shot Someone in Arizona is $108 million richer a winning ticket in last night's mega millions drawing was sold in Lake Havasu City and the winner has a choice of receiving the money in 30 graduated payments over 29 years or taking a lump sum of just over 75 million bucks I'm Chris garageio I'm Barry riddles you're listening to masters and business on Bloomberg radio My special guest this week is a kinder sing Cassidy She is a tech exec and serial entrepreneur as well as the former president of StubHub Her new book choose possibility take risks and thrive even when you fail is out and is getting excellent reviews Let's talk a little bit starting with your role as president of StubHub what was that like Did you have any surprising challenges You had to deal with in that role I feel like that's the leading question Just a touch But certainly I'm happy to share So I ran StubHub from 2018 to 2020 in that time There's a lot of surprises Some I could have anticipated in some I couldn't First of all just a phenomenal and fun experience If you've ever been in a business of live experiences and giving that gift to people of why there's just really nothing like it And I'm also happy to be a big sports entertainment fan So that doesn't hurt But when I think about the things that we're surprises number one StubHub if you know the history was bought by eBay over ten years ago And so it was an eBay subsidiary And I could have anticipated that eBay would continue to face shareholder pressure because it wasn't growing at the same rate as Amazon and its margins were declining And in fact that shareholder pressure came to pass and activist Elliot two activists joined the board Starboard and Elliott in 2020 No no in 19 my goodness In January of 2019 and put pressure on the CEO the then CEO to sells that hub as opposed to hold it So midway I was only a year into my tenure when an activist joined eBay board and quickly became apparent that we were going to end up selling the company and I was going to be leading a sale process which is not necessarily what I personally wanted But so that I could have anticipated in a sense that eBay had an activist once before And certainly when I took the StubHub job it did occur to me that that would be one potential risk that eBay itself my parents company with face pressure I expected more earnings pressure pressure to deliver our numbers every quarter There was an outside possibility of an activist The fact came in the past and that led to the sale of the company to step up sales The honest the other unexpected event was COVID And ironically StubHub sold for a record stop $4 billion We led a process that led to a successful transaction that closed on February 13th 2020 And I thought as much as I was personally disappointed you know I recognize it was a very successful business outcome And I was going to go have to find a new job because very rarely does the acquired company get to have a CEO around the combined company And I certainly was not getting that job The original founders StubHub bought back the company and he wanted to run the combined company There's a thing with you and founders coming back to run companies That's the keep in mind I've also been a founder three times right So I do understand that founder CEO dynamic and as I said I mean founders have an affinity for their companies that is really hard to I don't know It's just hard to put any price tag or any Sure Let's jump to our favorite questions that we ask all of our guests starting with Tell us what you've been streaming these days give us your favorite Netflix or Amazon prime or podcast whatever's keeping you entertained during the pandemic Sure Well I probably have three that are at the top of my list these days First of all Ted Lasso I know that my family loves so good Such a feel good funny funny show So well done Season two not so good a season one but I will just say we're still Ted Lasso diehards On Amazon a girlfriend of mine recommended mcmafia which is actually a pretty interesting for those of you who like I would say finance or financial services and the mob It's a fictional series on a British Russian financier who gets involved with the wrong folks That's a really niche one and an interesting one It's been a great series to watch Succession I'm waiting for season two and we've all watched the session And then I would say on the podcast side right now actually I am looking to do separate podcasts about Elizabeth Holmes trial once to drop out from ABC and the other one is a bad blood from John kiryu who as you know the original kind of journalist on this story So I like listening to smart people It is just keeping your breath done On the trail Really interesting stuff Tell us about some of your mentors who helped shape your career Well first of all my dad I always talked about the fact that he was a doctor but he was also an entrepreneur And he really loved looking for himself And I think he made the idea of entrepreneurship so accessible for me Remember he's also the guy who told me to take that trade trip down to New York that led to the job of Merrill Lynch Like if there was ever a champion of possibilities even small ones all the time it was my father So he is my preeminent mentor for sure And then I think the other group I'd point to is you know I've been lucky to have a lot of great people I worked for They often are my best mentors because they know me well And I know that well All the tribe jungly we talked about those four Indian entrepreneurs who started that company that I joined I mean my God they became an angel investors in the only my next company they introduced me that opportunity one of them raw shari rom was the first investor in Google So when I made the decision to go to Google and they called me with because rob pushed both of us he pushed them to call me and me to consider it And you know when the situation went awry and polyvore the number one person I called was a guy named Becky Harry and Iraq and one of those jungly founders and the one I was closest to to continue to know me and invested in all the companies I founded And I just said what do I do here And he was the one who could have gave me the look me straight in the eye or these people you tried Do they have your values advice and told me to get the hell out I really consider thank you probably the closest among that group But all four have been very instrumental in my career Let's talk a little bit about books What are some of your favorites and what are you reading right now Well one of my favorites I'm like a very kind of gee business person sometimes I don't like to read all business books but there's some I really love One of my favorites is McKinsey's gross beyond the hockey stick So if you're a leader or CEO who's always for grappling with how to get your company to grow faster and obviously it's StubHub I was trying to accelerate growth.

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"mcmafia" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

Bloomberg Radio New York

06:59 min | 10 months ago

"mcmafia" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

"Rita you're listening to masters in business on Bloomberg radio My special guest this week is a kinder sing Cassidy She is a tech exec and serial entrepreneur as well as the former president of StubHub Her new book choose possibility take risks and thrive even when you fail is out and is getting excellent reviews Let's talk a little bit starting with your role as president of StubHub what was that like Did you have any surprising challenges You had to deal with in that role I feel like that's the leading question Just a touch But certainly I'm happy to share So I ran StubHub from 2018 to 2020 in that time There's a lot of surprises Some I could have anticipated in some I couldn't First of all just a phenomenal and fun experience If you've ever been in a business of live experiences and giving that gift to people of live there's just really nothing like it And I'm also happy to be a big sports entertainment fan So that doesn't hurt But when I think about the things that we're surprises number one StubHub if you know the history was bought by eBay over ten years ago And so it was an eBay subsidiary And I could have anticipated that eBay would continue to face shareholder pressure because it wasn't growing at the same rate As Amazon and its margins were declining and in fact that shareholder pressure came to pass and activist Elliot two activists joined the board starboard and Elliott in 2020 Yes No no in 19 my goodness In January of 2019 and put pressure on the CEO the then CEO to sell stuff hub as opposed to hold it So midway I was only a year into my tenure when an activist joined the eBay board and quickly became apparent that we were going to end up selling the company And I was going to be leading a sale process which is not necessarily what I personally wanted But so that I could have anticipated in the sense that eBay had an activist once before And certainly when I took the StubHub job it did occur to me that that would be one potential risk that eBay itself my parents got me to face pressure I expected more earnings pressure pressure to deliver our numbers every quarter There was an outside possibility of an activist But that came to pass and that led to the sale of the company to step up sales The honest the other unexpected event was COVID And ironically StubHub sold for a record job $4 billion we led a process that led to a successful transaction that closed on February 13th 2020 And I thought as much as I was personally disappointed you know I recognize it's a very successful business outcome And I was going to go have to find a new job because very rarely does the acquired company get to have a CEO around the combined company And I certainly was not getting that job The original founders that have bought back the company and he wanted to run the combined company There's a thing with you and founders coming back to run companies That's the keep in mind I've also been a founder three times right So I do understand that founder CEO dynamic and as I said I mean founders have an affinity for their companies that is really hard to I don't know It's just hard to put any price tag or any Sure Let's jump to our favorite questions that we ask all of our guests starting with Tell us what you've been streaming these days Give us your favorite Netflix or Amazon prime or podcast whatever's keeping you entertained during the pandemic Sure Well I probably have three that are at the top of my list these days First of all Ted Lasso I know that my family loves so good So that's a feel good funny funny show So well done Season two not so good at season one but I will just say we're still Ted last diehard On Amazon a girlfriend of mine recommended mcmafia which is actually a pretty interesting for those of you who like I would say finance or financial services and the mob It's a fictional series on a British Russian financier who gets involved with the wrong folks That's a really niche one and an interesting one It's been a great series to watch Succession I'm waiting for season two and we all watch Succession And then I would say on the podcast side right now actually I am listening to two separate podcasts about Elizabeth Holmes trial once the dropout from ABC and the other one is out for a bad blood from John kiryu who as you know the original kind of journalist on this story So I like listening to smart people It is just taking a breath on On the trail Really interesting stuff Tell us about some of your mentors who helped shape your career Well first of all my dad I always talked about the fact that he was a doctor but he was also an entrepreneur And he really loved working for himself And I think he made the idea of entrepreneurship so accessible for me Remember he's also the guy who told me to take that trade trip down to New York that led to the job of Merrill lunch Like if there was ever a champion of possibilities even small ones all the time it was my father So he is my preeminent mentor for sure And then I think the other group I'd point to is you know I've been lucky to have a lot of great people I worked for They often are my best mentors because they know me well And I know that I'm well All the tried jungly We talked about those four Indian entrepreneurs who started that company that I joined I mean my God they became an angel investors in yodeling My next company they introduced me that opportunity one of them raw sharim was the first investor in Google So when I made the decision to go to Google and they called me with because rob pushed both of us he pushed them to call me and me to consider it And you know when the situation went awry as polyvore the number one person I called was a guy named thank you Harry and I and one of those jungly founders and the one I was closest to to continue to know me and invest in all the companies I founded And I just said what do I do here And he was the one who could have gave me the look me straight in the eye or these people you tried Do they have your values advice and told me to get the hell out I really consider thank you probably the closest among that group But all four have been very instrumental in my career Let's talk a little bit about books what are some of your favorites and what are you reading right now Well one of my favorites I'm like a very kind of gee business person sometimes I don't like to read all business books but there's some I really love One of my favorites is McKinsey's gross beyond the hockey stick So if you're a leader or CEO who's always grappling with how to get your company to grow faster and obviously it's stub hub I was trying.

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"mcmafia" Discussed on Native Opinion Podcast an American Indian Perspective

Native Opinion Podcast an American Indian Perspective

02:23 min | 1 year ago

"mcmafia" Discussed on Native Opinion Podcast an American Indian Perspective

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"mcmafia" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

15:22 min | 2 years ago

"mcmafia" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Soldiers returning from conflict professor Neil Greenberg says doctors and nurses are at risk of developing post traumatic stress disorder several Australian states have started easing that coronavirus restrictions the most populous states New South Wales cafes shops and restaurants can now re opened and that makes up to ten customers on the social distancing rules as many as six hundred thousand jobs have been lost in Australia because of the disease in China where the outbreak started its new figures show the country's industrial outputs returned to growth last month it grew by three point nine percent compared with the same period last year more than twice as much as expected retail sales was sharply down the three Baltic states Estonia Latvia and Lithuania a re opening the borders to one another which were closed because of the pandemic travelers entering from outside of the three countries still go into quarantine for two weeks in Austria restaurants and cafes have been allowed to reopen but there must be at least a meter between tables and serving staff will have to wear masks several airlines say they will receive a limited flight change over the next few weeks headlines have been virtually grounded as borders were closed during the pandemic BBC news you're listening to the real story for the BBC world service with me with a low shot this week we're asking if the disruption and disaster of covered nineteen is an opportunity for organized crime we joined by me she bloody journalist north of McMafia five underfill about brown from the Brookings Institution she specializes in non traditional security threats including organized crime and illicit economies and also by Geoffrey Robinson author of books including the manager how organized crime is taking over the world you're free before the break you were making this distinction between local groups and global groups and I think I interrupted you but I wanted to get to this idea about these connections with government just give us a sense of how these people then can work with the authorities around them looking dirty money and I won't go through the history of how much she's been wandered around the world but the figure today is somewhere in the one point five trillion dollars of dirty money criminal money now some of it is tax evasion some of it is political corruption some of it is corporate corruption a lot of these drug money but if you talk about one point five trillion dollars circling the globe and dirty money and you understand that that represents a mere ten percent of the dirty money hidden in the offshore world you're talking about sixteen trillion dollars in the offshore world that is not tied to taxes in any country is not tied to any person or any group that you can easily identify and it represents a humongous political force and then you look at a country like Russia which is a mafia Chrissy the political influence that organized crime can have in a place like Nigeria where they refused to blast the scammers who are all over the world I sat with the president of Nigeria at length years ago discussing these particular criminals and he basically said we're helpless you look at the situation in Mexico today where you don't know who to trust in Mexico we believe that the president of Mexico is probably legitimate but they haven't always been you understand the volume of money involved you can understand the political corporate corruption judicial corruption and the fact that the international organized criminals are the most powerful political groups in the world today Misha Glenny and would you agree with that characterization what I'd say is his third use so a really significant increase in money laundering activities around the nineteen nineties and that's because you have a coincidence of two monumental events one was the collapse of communism in the former Soviet Union and in Eastern Europe where you saw the emergence of a new capital close who were absolutely dependent on mafia organizations to provide them with protection and security guarantees for that for that business and you saw this huge shifting of goods and services from around the world but this coincided with the neo liberal revolution in the west which made it much much easier to move money around the world and to exploit existing institutions like the office offshore centers that Jeffrey mentioned on the point about this is is this is self inflicted it was much that these institutions exist in order for corporations to avoid the tax in order for them to invest without being entirely up front about where they're investing and why so these are supposedly legitimate institutions and organized crime look to the way that international capitalism who worked and said well if they can do that we can do that too there are millions of shell companies which are used to disguise money around the world when we come tell what is what and that is because governments will not grab this next will it will not take the bull by the horns and say right we're going to close down these international money laundering operations and we're going to go off to the the lawyers Geoffrey Robinson Mr raises a very very important point that should not be overlooked the weight into the international financial world is through legitimate or otherwise legitimate lawyers bankers accountants company formation agents brokers inspector the gate keepers to the financial world are walking away Scot free these are the very people who could actually change the situation but have no economic reason to do so because they're making money doing it if you look at the offshore world United States tried something called factor which was really a bullying way of saying to the offshore world you will have to release to us the names of all of the people American citizens and American taxpayers your bank you gonna have to tell us who they are or we're going to cut you off from using dollars and we're gonna pull you in what the offshore World did was say okay we'll cooperate and then found ways around it in Switzerland for example where the Americans did beat up on Swiss banks and closed a bunch of them for promulgating tax evasion what the Swiss bank did was said look take your money out of the account because we have to report it by fact up to keep the Americans happy but in a safe deposit box and will eventually moved to Singapore so the very people who could solve the problem have no economic reason to solve it they're earning a living doing it and when you talk about what's going on in the U. K. look at the city of London which I contend and have contended since the longer than ninety two is the world's largest money laundering toilet people who reads characterize that in a different way it is an important and interesting backdrop and I'd like to come want to start playing bankers and the lawyers and accountants in prison in a six by six cell with a guy named Bruno who's got to Fang who's on the side of his face and change things until then nothing happens I can apartment thought an important thought I'm not minimizing it will come back to it because I want to come back to specific so people can understand how all these interact with things perhaps that they know about or associate with criminal networks with organized crime I'm gonna come back to the drug trade which you talked about a little bit Banda would you say that the drugs trade is connected trait that therefore can cope with some of the things that may be thrown into it in doing this pandemic so for instance that the difficulties of transportation and stuff some of which we've touched on well it is very important in this entire conversation to avoid to put alt generalizations and bombastic statements and really focus on non specificity as you are just not urging us to do indeed I interview somebody the conversation some moments ago about collusion between governments and criminal groups but it is of course very much of an antagonistic relationship between them as well and many governments do take on powerful criminal groups and organized crime groups ultimately this happened in Colombia no laughter torture response it certainly happened on the president called on in Mexico of the two critical downside of significantly augmenting violence it happened in the United States did not just close on all struck by the uber I had two of crime that do you S. successfully significantly diminished if not eliminated altogether the drug trade is one of the illicit economies that often generates very powerful criminal groups often with significant international reach I spoke of doing sank as the most successful criminal ever he certainly arrange a very large at this time global empire but in many criminal groups do not have the capacity to operate globally indeed two groups that I'm divers ified and have a global reach out from quite few and far between among the current players it for for example be the person a lock out of town in Mexico and how these kind of Hennessy on in Mexico but it's striking and very important to understand that they behave very differently in Mexico over they are extraordinary violent to window you behave in the United States but they are very peaceful because U. S. law enforcement capacity is very large in comparison to Mexico and has of the tenants capacity now did on how local or global data group is it faces different constraints and different opportunities in reacting to changes or even temporarily shut down of global drive chains if anything that's been interesting about the corporate crisis is how resilient global drive chains have been so yes there have been some significant destruction for example some elegant Dillon county school and there and smaller outfits have faced a shortage of precursor agents for the production of fentanyl which is a synthetic opioid and really the most powerful not just in terms of physical effects but also political implications and markets cancer implications of opioid so just when you say a shortage of some of the precursor because it's from China there's essentially ingredients other right and they are principally produced and sourced out of China and India so one of the interesting noon but magnified amplifications of to the destruction temporary disruption of global supply chains has been the use of more automation by criminal groups such as the use of drones is noting you think it's been there for a while and we now see is the border between the US and Mexico having much less traffic because of the shutdown due to covert though more groups are now relying on drones no jobs for short term distances but even for longer term distances and commercial drones have improved their payloads that's the amount of cargo and fuel they can carry and so they are not capable also to being more drugs Michigan is there a change in patterns of consumption also perhaps because people can't get the drugs that they used to take what we're seeing in Europe which of course is a very big consumers are in full illegal narcotics is is that there was in any case in the last five to seven years we saw the emergence of a shift because of the development of darknet drug markets and now in the United Kingdom it's estimated the something in the region of twenty five percent of all drugs consumed all purchased over the dot net but what's interesting about that is is that the most popular drug board on the dot net in the United Kingdom and in deed in northern Europe is ecstasy MDMA it's higher than purchases of marijuana cocaine or heroin and the thing about the NDMA that's consumed here is is that it's not of course manufactured either in Afghanistan or in Columbia or in Mexico it's manufactured in the southern Netherlands are on the town of Limbach and so you've had this shift in the path of drug habits amongst young people in particular but what that means is is before it was quite easy for law enforcement in Europe because all the violence associated with drugs was in Afghanistan or in Colombia or Mexico or other countries proximate proximity to those old police here had to do was to stop people from accessing the retail drugs as it was now what is happening in Europe because of the rise of synthetic drugs is that law enforcement is having to police consumption distribution of the drugs and that's very very difficult when the internet is used for purchasing absolutely almost everything during because of it and indeed the production of drugs as well and so you'll see a major a major shift in the way that narcotics are produced distributed and consumed and in a world that is not likely to be accelerated by this pandemic people goes what's near and what is more likely to reach them because the supply chain issues red alert has been accelerated because we know the prices of cocaine and heroin have risen very sharply here it's difficult to get a hold of of cocaine and heroin in Britain at the at the moment it's not difficult to get hold of marijuana because that's grown here in the UK and all over Europe it's not difficult to get hold of the pills of Xanax of MDMA and so on of which thirty huge stocks throughout throughout northern Europe and indeed printed lebar trees which are producing them and so yes people are turning to different drugs or returning to marijuana and they're dropping cocaine and heroin for the moment I want to think about a different kind of illicit trade in the drugs trade probably the thing that we most closely associate with criminal groups but is also straighten protected wildlife is lucrative and on the ground we know in normal times endangers very species whether it's tied grizzle rhinos who what kinds of animals they'll be valued in those cases for their alleged medicinal properties in parts of Asia see what happens now how is this trait being affected Judy in Redmile is directs east and southern Africa of.

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"mcmafia" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

14:29 min | 2 years ago

"mcmafia" Discussed on KQED Radio

"To its workers to cope with the aftermath in Austria restaurants and cafes something allowed to reopen from today in a further easing of coronavirus restrictions and several Australian states also easing the restrictions and the most populous state New South Wales cafes shops and restaurants can now re open and a missed up to ten customers as long as they keep apart these people at the Royal Albert pub in central Sydney said they were delighted to return this is a little bit different to the usual set I like it less favorable good you know less queues to the bass right is this relaxing night a drink after work or even you know lunch time on a Friday just want to stand up and running again world news from the BBC an experimental vaccine against corona virus appears to offer protection against covered nineteen according to a small study on the effects among kids the vaccine developed by scientists at Oxford university is currently undergoing human trials is not yet been pay refused the study is seen as a small an important step towards a vaccine here's our medical correspondent Fergus wolf in the study in the United States six rhesus macaques were given hall for the vaccine does being tested in more than a thousand human volunteers in the U. K. all the monkeys developed antibodies within four weeks of vaccination and when exposed to corona virus it appears to have protected them from pneumonia a key symptom of COPD with nineteen crucially there was no evidence of immune in halts disease a theoretical risk where a vaccine triggers a worse response to a disease which had been seen in some early animal vaccine trials against songs another coronavirus in the first arrangement of its kind in the E. U. the three Baltic states Estonia Latvia and Lithuania the drug the travel restrictions with one another which they imposed because of the pandemic as of now of their citizens can move freely within the Baltic region without border checks quarantine China's industrial output has returned to growth in April as its population cautiously emerges from the lock downs of the covered nineteen pandemic Chinese industrial production grew by nearly four percent from a year earlier more than twice as much as predicted after the first closely economic contraction for at least three decades several airlines have announced that they'll be resuming limited flight change over the next few weeks planes have largely been grounded by the pandemic BBC news this is the real story from the BBC I'm with the lush all with your weekly deep dive into a story that's making use and changing lives and this week with a condom is on hold and many governments struggling to cope does this crisis provided once in a lifetime opportunity for criminal gangs to tighten their grip on impoverished communities like I'm older and with a video collection I mean come on guys taking advantage of this car in fact always exported into these moments of weakness they provide health to people but don't ask them to deal drugs in exchange or give them money but fighting organized crime has been on paper a priority for governments globally for decades I merrily involved extortion loan sharking deal not dead the mob has been bloodied and has taken one on the chin among the defendants Anthony Salerno known as fat Tony have succeeded in forming provided power for Sunday order their criminal activity these borders will take them to Fishel's corrupt governments and it does start to undermine the fabric of society saying this isn't a new problem but the context is the masses of course corona virus which is altered so much and so quickly and that includes the activities of organized crime and this week we're going to explore just how that's playing out let's meet this week's panel we should Lenny is a journalist exposure on global organized crime and the author of the book McMafia a journey through the global criminal underworld that inspired not just the television series of the same name but also a new rule in the U. K. allowing authorities to go off to unexplained wealth Michelle I remember when you were a correspondent in the Balkans it's a region you know well as an illustration of how organized crime adapts and changes according to its second stances how it operates effectively how has it changed in the Balkans since the nineties well what you had in the nineteen nineties was essentially a civil war in the former Yugoslavia that was powered through the dictates of organized crime and corrupt politicians and during the war these networks put down deep roots not just in the former Yugoslavia but also in a lot of the surrounding countries like Bulgaria Greece and and so in Albania and they were using the chaos of the war in order to provide to the growing market in the European Union for illicit goods and services and the chaos of the war was the perfect opportunity to turn in Yugoslavia and the neighboring countries into a distribution zone for goods and services coming from all over the world heroin from Afghanistan cocaine from South America women were being trafficked largely from the former Soviet Union untaxed cigarettes from the United States farmers breakfast on and when the demand for particular goods goes down as it did do for example with untaxed cigarettes for complicated reasons other ones spring up so they didn't twenty fifteen for example we had the great to migration crisis when there was a a large flood of refugees from Syria but also people coming from North Africa I'm from Central Asia and those groups in the Balkans which had previously smuggled women or drugs or whatever switched over to becoming the main purveyors of people smuggling into the European Union so like any good business organized crime adapts to the circumstances which is an important point for what we're gonna be talking about today Vandervell that brown is on next panelist she's a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution specializing in non traditional security threats including organized crime and illicit economies vendor what's the one thing that constantly surprises you that people don't know about who can I crime what I think surprises many people is what's really been the essence of my work for two decades namely that criminal groups compete in governance but state entities so particularly in places like United States or western Europe where the state is powerful and society is often quite the moved from criminal groups and illicit economies that is the impression that organized crime groups and criminal groups in general I'm mostly operation that tried to evade the law in many parts of the world organized crime groups and criminal groups inspected governing cooling and to do this even if they do not physically pose a started Tory they are principal providers also lose dispute resolutions and often also physical security to particular group operations that's really fascinating I we can talk about that a little bit more Geoffrey Robinson is our third panelist he's the author of the books the laundry man and its sequel the manager how organized crime is taking over the world Jeffrey what's the one thing that surprises you the people perhaps don't know we'll think about when it comes to organized crime well the first thing is that they think of criminals and that's wrong crime is a business and organized criminals are businessmen and I think that if you suddenly realize that it's not about crime it's about business and the product doesn't matter but opportunism does then that wraps up what measures that a wide bonder says these are huge business enterprises who have done what the Harvard school of business says all businesses must do in a globalized society which is formed joint ventures and strategic alliances and that's why you have the tag and businessmen called the camara linked up with Russian businessmen or Nigerian criminal enterprises or the Colombian cartels they're all in it for money which is why when you get to policing if you go after criminals you're gonna lose if you go after the businessman and the money you stand a chance while there is a sense of what I hope will talk about during the course of the next hour let's begin by sketching out what we mean by organized crime or should I say perhaps criminal groups the brutality of this world has long been marked by a veil of glamour secrecy in violence are a compelling combination so many organized crime conjures up images of U. S. gangsters playing cat and mouse with the authorities during the prohibition of alcohol during the twenties and thirties why in a few weeks the government has dropped this time a brewery on south State Street said to belong to alcohol the fifteen of joy or sorrow depending on how you feel about it either way you're seeing eighty thousand dollars worth of destruction NEO they'll be allowed to drive growth in Chicago after this night work well well what it was hopes to films like the godfather but helped to crystallize what many of us now imagine when we talk about organized crime someone may feel like a romanticized relic from a long gone era the battle against some of the oldest crime networks continues to this day he is then U. S. Attorney General Eric holder spelling out the ongoing threat back in twenty eleven after Ralph to fresh arrests were made we are pleased to announce an important step forward in our ongoing fight against organized crime families of local signals to the mafia their alleged crimes include enormous violence and illegal acts from murder and narcotics trafficking through extortion illegal gambling arson loan sharking and labor racketeering but almost a decade on those criminal networks are growing in strength and reach then came coronavirus the pandemic has dramatically slowed global trade people have lost their livelihoods and facing poverty governments are struggling to cope but with fewer planes in the air and shipping impacted by pool closures and quarantines major drug distribution chains are still trying to get that product through to markets earlier this week police in Costa Rica showed off more than a ton of cocaine that they'd seized from just one ship that was due to set sail to the Netherlands Karen pineapple juice is full blown realism also he's out of the basin eight thousand with anti narcotics police carried out this inspection after an analysis of all ships vessels and containers that are leaving to highly important destinations and based on that profile they went to the second stage which is scanning and that's how the significant quantity was discovered this is the third case of this type that we've had this year at all it's a team effort between international police determined to find and stop Concord like this Costa Rica's public security minister Michael service center Michigan the governments of busy right now they've got lots of things to worry about organized crime can seize the opportunity potentially yes it can I think the first thing to say is is that to people involved in organized crime a human beings and said that threatened by corona virus as well so what we store it in central and western Europe and the United Kingdom in the first three full weeks of the lock down was a twenty percent drop in organized crime activity until those people involved in the business started working out what they were going to do the easiest thing to judge by is the narcotics trade the illegal drugs trade here because it's quite easy to research talking to dealers and wholesalers are there in person if you have to contact or through the dot net and it was just like the situation with toilet rolls we sort of wave of panic buying of marijuana cocaine and heroin kia a week before the lockdown came since then we've seen a steady supply business is booming for marijuana sellers but the trade in cocaine and heroin is the first victim all of the difficulties associated with international travel because you need to get her and almost exclusively not entirely but almost exclusively from Afghanistan and you need to get cocaine from South America another some routes which is still going on that has been monitoring of Guinea Bissau in West Africa but it looks as though in order to try and overcome these problems they've changed their tactics and they are sending out larger consignments so that's why you're getting wedding busts like the Costa Rican bust say whether the wealth they will find a way and Geoffrey Robinson this plays into your view that this is business people will seize opportunities well because they will and they are particularly opportunistic the fact that there's been a twenty percent drop means that eighty percent is still getting through so this is not a victory the corona virus has slowed things down but again these groups and these businesses adapt look at something like fraud fraud is gone through the roof if fraud is pandemic and you get on the net and there are people who will say your masks and people who were selling PPVs protective gear for a nurses and doctors and there are people who will set your remedies.

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"mcmafia" Discussed on New Jersey 101.5

New Jersey 101.5

06:16 min | 2 years ago

"mcmafia" Discussed on New Jersey 101.5

"Not that big they work on property taxes thank god they got they got a shoulder doing something I know they just slashed all this money for school budgets across New Jersey but we need to focus on the decline of cats well they do in school what do you do for the school budget yeah Roosevelt lost fifteen thousand dollars and a you know a little of note you the whole is a hundred is a hundred people schoolmaster yes small so if you put on a people whole school and you know that there's not a lot of money there to begin with but if you take away that school you basically destroy the tail yeah I mean so you don't really want to be doing meanwhile with thirty million dollars isn't ridiculous like that I was reading I think of Sergio story on our website about it today and I was trying I was it was the full list of like in order of like from the most lost to the least and I was just for you know for my own fun might wonder how far this down this list goes and goes goes very far like I wonder how little they lost and I forget what the school was but it's just it's fun if they had to write out this school air to last year they have now lost fifty two dollars really the whole thing is I you know what that schools making fifty two dollars too much but I understand you're paying school taxes we're not paying less in taxes why we given our schools less money yeah I don't know it is reallocating that money to somewhere else the me any favors it doesn't help I like Christy at the best idea Chris Christie every student gets sixty five dot was a sixty five hundred dollars spent on the Myanmar where you walk and that's it then you got to figure it out don't always give more money to the poor cities let's give more money to Asbury in Camden twenty eight thousand students graduation rates on the nothing that is good to make it easier what's even everybody's sixty five hundred I kid that's it I loved and property taxes would go down in some tales it go up in other towns but that would be it then we head out to a you know it's settled there are school districts and my sister will tell you where they just half the don't spend this money they lose it so they buy in any kind of crazy stuff just to spend the money any any got other schools as a Roosevelt are struggling just to stay alive energy is the owner and they they just screw the whole thing up I don't know how this turned into a whole school kind not to sound it this was the coin catches yeah I know it was start open access Katz is a casket we were really aligned good more of a dog guy speaking Spiro in South Jersey schools going to be the latest Russia you say V. finger scanning system for students Hey at their cafeteria joining more than one hundred other New Jersey schools that already use such a biometric ID system and I'll explain to you earlier it's basically like if you have an iPhone then right you put your thumb print on that unlock your phone rings that's basically what it is then they got a fingerprint kits yeah that's a little learning the bear the one degree whatever the juniors out there be like a hardened criminals and they they can't find them you know what a jury is falsely accused of killing his wife like the fugitive he's chasing a one armed men and he finds out that he wants to got a tuna fish sandwich in fourth grade and outside a catcher we don't like tuna fish that shaming just a regular sandwich in fourth grade decades later after they don't even remember candor they're gonna get caught for crimes like well we've managed to connect these dots buying that extra milk at lunch when you were ten because your fingerprints like so if you don't if you don't have the money is yours you know the money cut your finger off I think you get the money to get it next week what a ten percent vague it starts off it will cut your thumb off at first at first it just seems off her parents so you don't even get a finger print anymore you're nobody and then the second time they take the thumb like China took my film yeah I'm young Eric Roberts they talk about job they took my thoughts and they wanted to do the Jersey school we're gonna junior Taylor Johnny but you thought many here this year so now you move somewhere else you got this job in North Carolina so Tanya how did you lose your well wouldn't you know it when it shut down did you know that judge Judy's ending what is it you know judges rather annoying I have my own problems you do all those judge shows if you were to get several notices here and I know very well that there was a river in a celebrity judge told what they're going to have to abide by that decision Zach did to get small claims court says provision on television Lucy Ricardo even Booker what you call a judge yes who's on the air for how many twenty five twenty again as he W. nature how much right right what you're great argument to be a judge rather to go into the court system going television and she was like an actual judge the whole thing and it's just it's shocking twenty five and she's made so much money off of the show she doing of course you were growing up exactly just keep printing money do you know what today is today is the day the egg McMuffin was invented national aid make muffin day never had one yeah I did you never you've never had a big big muscle can Tyson but I don't seriously never had I've eight McMafia no I haven't I don't really trust fast food egg the egg is real the magnet muffin is a real letter the okay you got the white egg right they put the white egg in the in the round I did that I love the that's why when they had that little round thing they put on a crack it over it is really cool that's the that that's a real lake I mean the the I I live my favorite breakfast sandwich McConnell's is the steak egg and cheese bagel yeah which is a trip to heaven and if you don't have that erodes over trooper tried to get one free hold them down they laughed in his face sure left back but I mean I've got it did you see make millions millions no no maybe really indignant I'd heard about it but I did not see all right guys the panel monopoly game and how they read the monopoly game every all the winners were related as another but as it is so what's your.

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"mcmafia" Discussed on Conversations

Conversations

30:47 min | 3 years ago

"mcmafia" Discussed on Conversations

"This is an ABC podcast my we are the most famous of these a man who ran the biggest for Villa in Rio up in a house intensely interested in the outside world and he I traveled to by the shadowy international underworld of organized crime stretching out into many governments right around the world hymie show welcome to conversation Scottish name for Northern Ireland by the time I came along we've been in London for two generations probably the foremost translator of Modern Russian Literature Twentieth Century between the two of us he used the Russian diminutive from the minutae the ticket would be in the name of Michigan but the possible Michael and people would stop preventing me brought up in west London it was covered in bookshelves with the Cyrillic tails the terrifying saga of Baba Ga the imagine keeping with some aspects of Russian culture in general and of our own sort of southern English upbringing. Your Dad is an expert in Russian language a soldier in nine hundred fifty two fifty three and Berlin doing and he was once walking through the streets of Berlin when a film director the father appears and the main character is a little boy who speaks to him in German he lost his big chance but anyway seven well in movies you're serving the idea of him shimmering up a wall nipping over and the other side was absolutely preposterous hoped he'd get me show that ended up taking him into Russia anyway so he worked saying multi lingual person needed to be European when he was the sales manager of which was to be responsible for the restocking of the early sixty s when it was still actually pretty difficult to get to the Soviet Union a sort of slightly posh school in Oxford maudling college mm commander during the war on very right wing and after he left the army he had and to see the Worker's Paradise Moscow and some Beatles Burke first of all of course had had that sort of rush background but to see the kind of of you know you're at the in in the very melting pot of of of history okay which was an extremely dangerous thing to do but I was fifteen youthful neither what the hell huge buckle with a hammer and sickle on it which you know back in in let's go back to eighty one on a British counts council scholarship to Prague and I did lived in a socialist country when it was high socialism and can is Asian and that was invaluable when I returned to Vienna as years later those of us who were living in Vienna and in good a passion or you could see that things were stopping were not working so well you could see five nine thousand nine hundred eighty six first of all in Hungary but then in in Czechoslovakia knew that in Poland there was this huge well of national asp and the opposition picked up on that and it started nation of the UN Declaration of human rights an inward. Come that the COPS I was arrested in in Prague was covering an opposition demonstration and all of a you're powerless you do nothing you'll being conveyed in a sort of magic carpet type way resulting in a diplomatic incident because the the Brits of it but it was all indicative of the fact that as I say things because all other journalists thought the eastern you're still backward to where nothing ever happened and it was certainly in my gift and I was doing everything from Walsall in the north how did you get the nickname gloomy at the BBC Michelle well mistake then we had a little blip with Romania which was a fairly eighty six actually fairly regularly to Yugoslavia and northwest of Yugoslavia had six republics two autonomous provinces the possibility of war in this country and I I was very struck by ninety I took a trip with my future wife custody Lang through is purely professional short edition it was called the military district under the austro-hungarian empire the back in nineteen thousand nine hundred ninety we did a long a half hour dark saying Europe in Yugoslavia and it goes breaks out six months later so everyone having uh-huh how did organized crime come onto your through a near that organized crime is involved in the the militias everyone knew that the war started breaking out you would see people who men whose later would move into an area after it had been secured by the you know washing machines 'cause everything all kinds of in fact established so what you suddenly realize that whilst yes there was the narrative of hostility pitchman in Croatia whatever they were seizing assets is crime groups of Serbia Bosnia Albania Kosovar Vick from from the former Soviet Union whether it was untaxed they were all accumulating they're being shifted through that territory towards right and most affluent consumer market in history and you've got a significant percentage and so it suddenly became this huge transit zone the was no state capacity to police the area so for about ten years you it's shifting goodson services are making an absolute fortune they were looking for a job you had a government officials in particular you had he actually made it just before the collapse of the Soviet Union when Gorbachev opened the economy in Russia independent private computer business the other was Russia's first dating agency he had twelve KGB generals and general generals stories of KGB agents unscrewing the lightbulbs and nicking the toilet so you didn't have a system of commercial tribunal's and stuff like that so every which is what sociologists call the mafia and that's how capitalism and you'd walk into Moscow and you might walk into a shootout between organized crime that was stretching out with a real engine room here in in the fair I could have written a book about organized crime in the Balkans but by then everyone was fed up with the Balkans I find all of the Balkan countries absolutely fascinating but comes with the possible exception of the Albanians pitches between organized crime is and and say what you will about the Brazilians I mean let's face it Brazil from Dubai which trying to research organized crime into buys really I certainly not going for the culture and in that situation I was because of the Serbs did a lot of business three do he said I'm coming through next week Oh you must interested in talking to people at the top of those chains of organized crime or or just stand it unless I spoke to people in the business so when I because there are lots of people in this world who you you may encounter I'm a small time crooks some of them lawyers some of them politicians the people who's running this operation in Cape Town for example he was able to put me in touch with the right people for that phone book of Yours in Coin uh-huh as though they are being misrepresented most people involved news was with a big Bulgarian gangster one of the cleared the street no 'cause were allowed to while he was having lunch he thumped the table no one would have had food on their table we were the only F- organization their social function particularly for their local community and in the two thousands the first responders as always are huge James Bond style headquarters and everything whenever anything happens how's everything was being globalized at the time and I thought list and he said he said you know the Chechen just a group of all they supported Boris Berezovsky the oligarch and he explain tend to be Chechen because your name is such good brand because it frightens people so much and they said okay you have to be nasty and so it was rather like this sort of concessionary system that you have would it be brilliant publicity kost you're miss you describing how people involved renton informant or a policeman so trust is is the bill and end-all consensus is as was the case in Brazil that you're not working for one of the other When I was working in South Africa I had read a book by an a guy called fourteen came down to South Africa and was left to his own devices apartheid of actually he spoke Zulu as well as Afrikaans and English ninety four came along he was vital to the narcotics economy of the Western intended to take mandrakes crushed up with tobacco who started introducing different communities to different drugs and became a very effective got in touch with him named vitamin go and see him in Stellenbosch which during so we did an interview in a cafe near the university absolutely and I said Yes Surrey and so they getting in a car into a township at night is we'll have to live in and then we see we drew up it's a hire car that I've had we've Gets out of the car I opened the door and I grabbed my computer back don't take it and I say how it's done right okay and in that situation you're gonNA leave the computer in the a huge thick fog of marijuana smoke you know so that you walk shoe and a half hours they explained to me. 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