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Byte Lindsay McKeon

Sci-Fi Talk Byte

02:57 min | 2 months ago

Byte Lindsay McKeon

"Hi Welcome to season two of bite. This is Tony till auto. Parenting an unpopular abs it's it's not the same way that. Know, how it works any views usually two to four minutes long but sometimes, they can be a little longer. When you when you live long enough all kinds of strange things happen. Very right in saying that the Greek heroes, the original superheroes. In, part because of the hopeful nature of genes vision, but also because of its message of diversity and inclusion. I from the Red Carpet Tribeca Film Festival I spoke to Lindsey mckeon about her film indigence. Yes. Lindsey, how are you? Well, you know. What I like about movies like this is when the director gives you guys room to play with your characters a little bit. You're not tied to every line of dialogue and stuff like that, and you know it really helps with the conditions you're working then. I mean I know he would probably guide you during the scene, but you could you pretty much. Did you let it all go as far as what she was going to say and do and then kind of work with him to set it down a little bit. Yeah. I think a lot of it. He allowed us to be very loose with and I like to stick to the script and the character asthma guideline and do as much work on her as a human being as I can and then hopefully get there and be able to throw it all away and have organic moments. Come about when you get a director that trusts you to do that. that's the best kind of director. The conditions weren't the best times I. Mean there's if you're in a jungle so it's not a set. So there's injuries and things like that. So how did you all guard again? I think. Nature helped us. Case, because it could have turned out a lot worse than the I mean I didn't even turn out and there could have been a lot of things to go wrong and I think when. You work with producers and he worked with directors and you work with actors where there is something this movie that means so much to them and it's their first big project. It puts so much backing so much faith in it, and we all believed in it so much that I think naturally. Nature sort of rises up to meet you and says, okay, we'll take care of you and you won't. Now were you guys close to civilization or were you really out there? I mean, we were always fairly close to civilization, but the jungle jungle was really the middle of the jungle and were really dead deadly aunts and deadly trees and you know potholes to pollen and snakes and monkeys and etcetera etcetera etcetera. Look for indigenous. It's an interesting little movie and definitely a great cast. Great Young cast for Bite. This is Tony Talada.

Lindsey mckeon director Tony Talada four minutes
Byte Lindsay McKeon

Sci-Fi Talk

02:57 min | 2 months ago

Byte Lindsay McKeon

"Hi Welcome to season two of bite. This is Tony. Till Auto. Parenting an apocalypse it's it's not the same way that. Know, how it works any of US usually two to four minutes long but sometimes, they can be a little longer. When you when you live long enough all kinds of strange things happen. Very right in saying that the Greek heroes, the original superheroes. In part because of the hopeful nature of genes vision, but also because of its message of diversity and inclusion. I from the Red Carpet Tribeca Film Festival, I spoke to Lindsey mckeon about her film indigence. Yes. Lindsey how are you? Well you know. What I like about movies like this is when the director gives you guys room to play with your characters a little bit. You're not tied to every line of dialogue and stuff like that, and you know it really helps with the conditions you're working then. I mean I know he would probably guide you during the scene, but you could you pretty much. Did you let it all go as far as what she was going to say and do, and then kind of work with him to set it down a little bit. Yeah. I think a lot of it. He allowed us to be very loose with and I like to stick to the script and the character asthma guideline and do as much work on her as a human being as I can and then hopefully get there and be able to throw it all away and have organic moments. Come about when you get a director that trusts you to do that. that's the best kind of director. The conditions weren't the best times I mean there's if you're in a jungle so it's not a set. So there's injuries and things like that. So how did you all guard again? I think. Nature helped us. Case because it could have turned out a lot worse than I mean I didn't even turn out bad and there could have been a lot of things to go wrong and I think when? You work with producers and he worked with directors and you work with actors where there is something this movie that means so much to them, and it's their first big project. It puts so much backing so much faith in it, and we all believed in it so much that I think naturally. Nature sort of rises up to meet you and says, okay, we'll take care of you and you won't. Now. Were you guys close to civilization or were you really out there? I mean, we were always fairly close to civilization, but the jungle jungle was really the middle of the jungle and were really dead deadly aunts and deadly trees and you know potholes to pollen and snakes and monkeys, and Etcetera Etcetera Etcetera. Look for indigenous. It's an interesting little movie and definitely a great cast. Great Young cast for Bite. This is Tony Talada.

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Local Hour: Jack McKeon

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

00:00 sec | 4 months ago

Local Hour: Jack McKeon

"I may be on vacation, but I am coming in for this local hour, because it is a very special edition of David, Samson showed David. You out to me after we spoke about Jack mckeon, the possibility of getting Jack on the local hour with us, but that is complicated for a lot of people, but certainly trader Jack I mean. How can you explain zoom to Jack mckeon? But we have done it and Jack. mckeon is here David. This is an even greater achievement than getting a stadium built. I'm so happy, Jack, that's your hair. It's so good to see you although I see you with a W. on your shirt and it makes me very sad to see you with A. A nationals logo and not a Marlins logo I'll tell you if it was. If you guys were stolen operation you and Jeffrey at all I'd be having a models, but I'm when they fired me. Forget forget the MARLINS embassy. Wow, for forget the Marlins, but well I certainly want to get into that because David has touched on what happened to the Group of Moorlands luminaries this they've been dubbed in the media and your unfair treatment on your way out and Sarrazin as you articulated the reason why you are wearing a world champion Washington nationals. Shirt but I want to start with you where David started last week. Which is you know? The MARLINS are coming out of their managerial relationship with. Tour Borg and Jack McCain's name is floated out. Not really a candidate that was in strong contention, but as it was positioned, was a meeting that was certainly worth taking so you meet with Jeffrey Loria and was Larry David. Larry says at a Deli, and David tells me you had no idea what Jeffrey Loria first name was. That's true well. We had was funny when I got. Picked up at the airport news went over to the Deli. I was a little bit early, so I was sitting out there. on one of the benches outside the Delhi. Smoking Cigar and i. didn't I was going to say I never met Jeffrey before I'd met Larry One time anyway? I see this guy coming across the street. And I guess about twenty five feet from. Jeffrey he said Yeah You Jack, and that's how we met so anyway after discussion. We had lunch in so forth. No, I didn't really think I was being interviewed for the job. I would start our talent star reason. Jolly Finley stories having a good time with those guys and man we left I would back to north, Carolina and evidently Jeffrey went back to the office. Bill Back My. Good friend who had recommended by name. But my name out to them. Back Jeffrey Back Bill. Jeffrey at me Billy, said I, kind of liked your guy. He said but sure L. wasn't trying to impress me. They know my name. What name were you calling Him Jack? Throughout the meeting I call him Jerry. Jeffrey Loria Jerry Loria and this actually works. David Duke. This seems like a cookie job. Interview Wounded Jack mckeon. Just sorta jump out Jeffrey, Really Respond Jack Not knowing his name or something, so actually know Jeffrey was not happy that he didn't know his name as any owner would not be happy, you want you know there is ego involved in all ownership. All of us have an EGO. There was something about Jack. Jeffrey came back from the Rascal House Delhi any called. Many, said you. You know there's a real chance that this mckeon Guy can help us. And I said I was sort of negative about it I said to see. Did He know about the team? Did he know? Did he have a plan in mind? And because that's sort of what normal managerial interviews or like they talk about the team in about what their thoughts are, and Jeffrey said forget all that Jack mckeon is someone who can come. Come in and he could provide a a the ability to get this team to do what I know it could do. And I had a disagreement because our team stunk at the time, but I was so happy to get rid of tour board that I would have taken anybody instead of tour Borg as manager so Jeffrey said we're going to go ahead and make Jack offer and I said well. How much you're GONNA pay him? Him because you. We don't need to pay him that much and Jack I love you I didn't know you at the time. Now that I know you, I would have asked for the world for you but I said you know we can just give him a little stipend because he's GonNa. Be So happy to WANNA manage well agree with today except the fact when when you called off baby that offer almost toy ticket. My Son Casey was happened to be in the room, and he said Dad. Don't worry about money. He said. This is something you love to do. So that's a Kinda Kinda guy. But it was, but there was a counteroffer wasn't there Mr mckeon apparently negotiated a bonus in that bonus was a car. No I didn't that was a that was unique situation. There one that we were moved out after a game. One Night Jeffrey said Let's let's go over to the lace in Miami. CRAPPO. Joe's crab and I got just much nice car. I'll tell you. He said you'll get us in the playoffs. He said I'll give you the car. I've had that happen, but but by a lot of people in the past going to give you something. Different, so I just tossed along. Another. You know another BS. But You, know all of a sudden the Kinda worked out we were. We were GONNA win. The division wanted he says what color you like. White Black as. Well that was it in of course. About a couple of weeks later, he came into the clubhouse and. Early in the afternoon. He said what He. What are you doing? I said nothing I'm sitting here. He said well come on. Come out I want to. Go somewhere with. Okay so we went out to exit there outside the clubhouse, said It, is that yours? He had had that car shipped in from Massachusetts. That's super cool all right, so you do get obviously you win the world series that year, but at early on. David told me that you had to really be told who was on the team. You really didn't know much about the MARLINS. You obviously had a long storied career Major. League baseball, but going into the job where you familiar with the with the team at all, or did you need a full run through of what you had on the roster? Labor's telling you that stuff. They don't know what he's talking about. All about this team if that was nineteen. My last my last year Cincinnati's ninety. I sat in the DUGOUT. In. There in Florida Saint. I, forget the name of the state of now. They have so many names. They change it every other week, but anyway I said. Might coach. Dongola got when my like the manages I said I got so much talent over there, but the earlier in low gear somebody's. Detail and and get him out of here well, not knowing. Few years later. I'm going to be the manager so I. Knew All about these guys Jack. What was your last year managing before three? Two thousand so when you come into the clubhouse to remember the first day of the week that you manage your first game Sunday. Yeah, it was a Sunday. So do you remember when we met year in the clubhouse? And we're and we're talking about the lineup and the players, and that the joke of it is that you're going through and figuring out the names players, etc. Do not remember that right on. Remember that no. Can't remember everything you know Jeffrey and all I mean Joe Jerry. All right another thing that I need to get an answer to was. David says that you nicknamed him sparky because he was a spark plug. You know this high energy guy and I think I maybe opened his eyes to the possibility that you call them sparky, because you had no idea what his name was. Can you tell us what? It was one day I just joined the club and we had A. One of those calls conference call. Okay. We had accomplishable. Maybe I happen to be in there I. Don't know what they're talking about, but the Marquis was given a little. Speech about? Whatever the subject was at that time and I said my God this guy's. This guy's all right. This guy knows what he's doing I said spot world so from then on every time. I saw my said well is a spark so sparky. Spark plug the spiky all right, so we'll believe that David was one of the few that you did know including the Rosser in the ownership so you take over team I believe David. Correct me if I'm wrong. There were ten games under when you guys decided to make the move or thereabouts. Yeah, we were nine, thousand, nine, hundred, thirty one. When Jack took over with some time in May and the team did not immediately turnaround by the way, so there was some struggles right after Jack came in, and I was pretty down thinking that this we had. This is what we had and I would go talk to Jack and you would say come on, just hold on. It's GonNa get better. It's GonNa get better, and I had no reason to believe him, because I didn't know him well at that time, but it started getting better. Sure enough. We'll Jack, what did you? You do to make it better well I. Just tried to make it make like these guys realized. Hey, there was a lot of talent in this room we had we had added dedicate ourselves to winning and focused on our job and leave our egos at the door, and let's play unselfish baseball, and then put up the thing that if we can win one game a week, we are twenty I think was twenty weeks left, and if we could win one game a week in other words be five and four for that week. We would end up twenty games ahead and we would win. Get in the playoffs, and basically that's that's what we used to do. Put a counter up my office. Every day you know we'd have. May We have this particular week? Three and four and Jeffrey convincing. On your calendar now we got to pick it up. We gotTA PICK IT UP I. Shouldn't worry about a Jeffrey I had a picture by a favorite Saint Saint Arrest. Of The wall and when they Jeffrey came in checking my calendar and see how we're doing and. He said we happened to lose about towards rain a Roland. He said to me Hey You lady here. Saint Dress you WanNa talk to her. Get things going on here. Well. You mentioned checking egos at the door, so let's talk about that a little bit I'm going to seize on it. Because one of the the longstanding rumors about that team and David has since confirmed it was the tension between the staff and guys like Josh and Pudge Rodriguez, pudge, really maybe one of the few players on a team that had enough history in the game to actually have an ego. So how did you manage that situation? How bad was it in reality? I didn't even think with any problem. was when you know I. had young guys like you know beckons any I mean I I hate to say it, but I had ride. Those guys I mean Rotem I know. How good they could bleed, but they weren't satisfied me right now. This particular time when I told him, I said I don't give a damn where you're like me or not. I won't make twenty game winner and I kept on them. You know we had a great relationship. Pudge was great I. You know I. Disagree sometimes with I, hear some of the executives of the marlins say will pledge wasn't a leader, but let me tell you something. They weren't down there living in the clubhouse. This guy was a real good leader and how? You know it was funny. Probably should, but one day shouldn't talk about this, but one day he got hit on the hand. He was out a couple of days and he came back. It was about ready to play in eastern. I'm ready to go skipped us. Okay, you'll be a notable. While we were beating the braves. Thirteen nothing or something in about the eighth inning he left bench, went up and got shower, and I found out so I call him in the next day, and I just explained in all future hall of Famer, and up disappointed thing. I said just supposed to write a play, said Yeah. I said No. You don't play you. Don't play to you. Stay at bench. And be part at twenty five million team. When you decide to do that, let me know. Let, let me add something Jack that that happened there because I know exactly what you're talking about, and we had some issues with Jeffrey on that because he wanted pudge game that day and remember before. You got there I think you weren't there. When pudge left the team for a few days that year to go visit his hitting coach. Had you started yet at that time I? Don't know if I did it was just A. A Naoto. I don't remember that, so he so pudge had left the team because he was in a slump, and he went to see his own hitting coach, and it created some issues in the clubhouse, and then when and Jeffrey at always treated pudge welcomes Jeffrey had wanted to have him sign, and that's something that we struggled with the treating players differently when you insisted that pudge not play and Jeffrey said he wanted pudge. Pudge in the game that day and you ended up winning that battle that was critical in our season, because you showed the players and you showed the front office that you weren't GonNa. Take anything from Jeffrey and you'RE GONNA take anything for me in that. You were going to do it your way the mid if you want. If we wanted to fire you, you'd rather get fired than have anyone have input into what you? You were doing, and that kept going all the way through your choice of pitching rotation at the end of the world series, and it goes back to the day that you benched Puch was no question about that, but I'll say this that. After the next day he came in apologize, and from that day on, he was probably the best leader ever on any club I mean he just took command and was very respectful and. When I look back and say hey, here's a guy that was you know cuddled. Does hope all career? No one ever discipline anything he wanted to do, he can do now. All of a sudden. I put a stop that and I think was a wake up call for him. and. I tell you it was. It was just super, while I'll take the transition that dave sort of alluded to. Let's fast forward to that world series, and the staff is really clicking in the playoffs and Josh Beckett finally taps into that potential that it seems as though you believe he had in while. You mentioned that you were writing him and saying that he had the potential. Potential to be twenty game winner I remember told the story that I was uneasy about Josh Beckett starting at in like our chances on such short rest. How difficult of a decision was that? Did you have to fight with the organization to go ahead and Pitch Josh on three days rest in that world series well, obviously not trying to throw the ownership under the bus I didn't. Ask anybody as I made up my mind. This guy's GonNa Pitch at called. By first of all looked at it this way growing up in New York I knew the mystic. You know you get them to seven games. Something good happens to them and I. Ain't no way am and Redmond was scheduled. His term was scheduled. The pitch and the cubs beat around. The Yankees had knocked them round game, one or two whatever to I can't this. I know I'm giving up game six. Get the to get the game seven. I said to hell I'm going so I call Beckett in and I said hey up ticket about pitching his six on the on the six game there with three days rest. What do you think he said? Let me run through a few. Bullpen, he threw a few few minutes out. There gave back any I'm your guy. That's all I needed David. How did that go over with the front office? So Jackie remember when we were flying to new. York, and the argument that you and I had in front of everybody. Do you recall that or not? I love. Stugatz here. Support for the Dan Lebatardshow Woods to God's podcast comes for our friends at rocket mortgage by quicken loans home. Today is so much more than it was yesterday, but at rocket mortgage home is still all about you. During these challenging times, the top priority at rocket mortgage is the health and safety of the communities. They serve if you need mortgage assistance. 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We figured we know what it right, but the game was going into extra innings well. All the guys were out of a room. They put aside about rooms now. The Guys Hang Around Barn, getting disgusted so I see my. Traveling Secretary Bill Becker said what time is ten o'clock bus leave and it was about ten thirty then who said well? You know. David and not. Larry said well, we'll wait a little bit I. Call up the Tom. Get there s down here because we're leaving. And when down air, I was mad I was mad. I saw sparking the elevator and we got into it and. Run, the country club here I'm trying to win here, okay? So. Argument, Kept saying shut up, shut up. You'll get fired I said. I'M GONNA win. David was even a consideration, so it was not a consideration to fire him prior to the world series even. After manager of the year is downplaying the argument a little bit because he and I love each other. He was yelling in front of the players in front of the staff and speed, so what I thought was disrespectful in angry and his wife Carol. WHO's the most wonderful beautiful? Amazing woman is basically elbowing him in the stomach. Saying you have to stop this because she really thought that somehow he'd be fired, right? Right then and there, but Jack wouldn't stop. He was like a crazy guy was screaming about. This is ten o'clock God. Damn bus, and I'm telling you right now. We're leaving ten meanwhile Larry Bind, fest and I are up in the suite in our sweet. Because all the players we had gotten rid of their rooms because it was passed checkout time, but we kept our room, so we're on our bathrobes watching the. The Red Sox game. We don't want to be with team. He'll WANNA be sitting there in the ballroom, sitting on the floor so jack we find out from bill back. That Jack wants to leave, and we said Bill Jack. We're not leaving till it's over. We don't know where the team's going to go and Jack Bill. Cosby back and says Jack is losing his mind and I said built. Forget it just tell. Tell them. We'll leave when the game's over and then Jack got involved, and we found out, Jack was GonNA. Take the team bus and just go to the airport and leave me and Larry up in the hotel suites, so Larry and I are furious. We get dressed. We go downstairs. We opened the elevator and Jack starts yelling like just going crazy, and it didn't stop even on the team bus right Jack. Shutout at. Oh Shit. That's great. I wasn't even really the I was asking about Josh Beckett specifically on three days resume. You gave us a good story there, Jack, where you doing that in front of the team on purpose, or were you just irked and they were just. There I was no, I wasn't trying to show them up I just. That was mad and I. I'm I designed. Was the win and I had an good. Good frame of mind and I didn't want him to all Griping I. I wanted to get that thing going I. WanNa talk about some managerial. Series obviously the the Josh Beckett three games rest. Thing is what everybody remembers, but I was at that game was a game. Five Karl von start in the Alex is Homerun David Game Four? Braden looper comes into that came in Brandon was very shaky leading up to that point, and he was going after he was going up against weaver, and it was sort of like all right. We both know that one of these guys are gonNA. Get lit up like a gas. Can which one is it and looper comes in and gets you guys out of a Jam Obviously I'm sure David. You were nervous I'm sure everyone on the team was nervous in that dugout. You guys knew the situation with and at that time Jack. What was your frame of mind in that decision? Did you have other options you? If you GONNA, go down. You're going to go down with your trust. In brayden that seemed like one of the momentous. Of that world series well I. I don't remember what I remember, the situation but I don't know what. My thought of mine was at that particular time, but. I I trusted looper that time and we're. What happened in near a Helluva wasn't getting the job done so I had to go to Lopa or woman up, but. He did a job. I mean he he he he slacked off a little bit towards the end of the year, and we went to WHO Bena, but then. You know we had to come back and Newsham in certain situations, and he did the Job David Gag I wanna remind you of something. I'm sorry Mike, when you're talking about our trust and Braden looper you have to know at that time in the playoffs are being arm was basically falling off, so he was not as effective as you would remember or think in the playoffs because we had used them correctly so Jack's view which I agree with us. These guys to arm falls off because we're trying to win right now. But Jack Looking at our entire playoff run an oath three. What would you say was the most important half? Half inning pitched by any pitcher at any point and I'm going to give you a hint and say it was in the divisional series round against the San Francisco giants remember Jack No I. Don't remember okay. You put in Braden looper against the giants in an extra inning game when it was basis loaded, the giants had bases loaded, and bonds was coming up second, there was one out and looper came in, and he got out with it was basis loaded no outs if I recall correctly, and he got out of it only giving up one run on a sacrifice fly, and he got bonds to hit that towering pop up. The infield pop up and then at the bottom of the inning. That's when pudge hit the two run walk off single for us to win that game and we had an we had lost faith in looper because he was bad or being, it was bad. We repeat knit together. And he came in, and we were worried always about Luke Erna big situation, and that was very instructive. Instructive for you as you and Ford through the playoffs because you would talk to me about the fact that hey, we've got loop being in. We're going to go with the anyone who can get out I'm not saying her being the closer I'm not saying loopers. The closer we just need outs with you know real guy that really helped through the final stretch in playoffs, Chad Fox. To mend his confidence in him that Gurb all. The more and I tried to. Talk to people today. About why all they got these one inning, pitchers today and stuff like that and I said you know some of these guys you go back to the playoffs. We used our starner's in the playoffs with a that helped us win, and we used the same thing in the in the in in the world series. Are Stars were relievers because I couldn't trust some guys? We had the bullpen. You know except for both those who've been at that particular time in Chad Fox. But you know you go back and look at the. Back it. He pitches to hit shutout against the cups. We're down three to two going into Chicago. We gotTa Win. We got need a day off on Monday. He wins on Sunday. We got day off Monday I, said the Rosie, the pitching coach signal. If we need a Beckett, we're GONNA go from ingersoll in Tuesday. It's one day off one day rest and we did, so. We went with him in the third inning. One up one up two up three up down. Okay, let's go for another. One went for the second inning as hell. Let's go on any with. Let's go on other any. Four innings in that game and kept us at bay. And then penny comes in, and does but Amandus job really when you come down, look at it, penny probably could have been the most valuable player in that world series because he went to games. Penny was a tremendous and there was some talk about that. It seemed as though Becker would go on to have other great moments for for Boston, but it seems as though everyone on that staff was clicking because you guys went through some really difficult pitching staff in that playoff run. Schmidt was pitching as well as anybody in the game. would, and prior you guys had to go through that. Let's talk a little bit about that. Cup Series I'm glad you mentioned that Josh Beckett Game, which is sort of forgotten and understandably so considering what happens for the from that point on in that series, but that's a game that Beckett starts touching like triple digits. I I still think radar gun was juice at pro player at the time. David I can't believe that. He dug down and found that a we actually wanted to introduce it. Because Jack came to us and said you know the Brad. Penny all he does is look around after he pitches, he looks back to see how hard he's throwing, and so Jack said to us that he said. Why don't we change the radar because I'm tired of him looking back either shut it off which we didn't. Didn't want to do because we. The fans liked it. You know the fan liked it, but Jack was very conscious of these pitchers, and how this is remember seventeen years ago, where not? Everybody was throwing a hundred miles an hour, where upper nineties was not something you saw very often. Jack was very focused on that because remember Jack. Those pictures were so young, and they were velocity obsessed while you don't a funny thing. Is You talk about Penny I know I never forget when I got there. Kendall IRA we get rid of this guy in can't pitch. Get through this. I said look. Let me have him for a month. Let me and don't go make a movie. Let me work on and I worked on his head and. At the end of the year I had this guy sitting alongside of me talking about pitchy. And, that's how you know because of the fact that I was a teacher when I took over I, mean I wanted to bench in in our situation down to bench and I talk to these guys about that situation. At least me to another one. Time I locked the club clubhouse while disabled day with somebody was bitching and how I saw mistake out there and I want to bring to the attention. fetches not ended a bench. Nobody's there a hell arts guys. The clubhouse. Okay, so I sneak up the global I. Get them all. And then I get mad and I would a man locked clubhouse. I told they couldn't go to the clubhouse anymore during the game unless they had to go to the bathroom. Will Redman. That Mike The pitcher. Mark, he gets these eight by ten. By ten but these. Cards. Mammal cards and he had signs made I P. P cards poo poo guards. You got to go to the bathroom. Hey, you gotta go get yourself a card. But that was that was the fun part of were all will always kick ner, joking in and being relaxed and having fun, and you know what was by expansive or the players expense. We had some fun. They call be different names. I'd call him different names you know. Sometimes it was sometimes I forgot their name but other. TIMES GONNA. Join the Club I. Call Him I forget what I call them I. Call Her name Go. Jal Pension. So that's Marlin? Joel is. It was unreal Conan. Still talks about it to this day that you're the only manager ever had ever who could not call him by his right name, and it continues to this day where the two of you joke around now, but at the time I'm not so sure it was a joke known first time I you know I did join the club. That much sociology at that time but I. Forget what I call them now every time I say. A Jim is say hey, Lord and Metropolitan. recalled. I saw. His son was playing up Duke couple years ago. and. I went over to the game and they saw jeff his wife. And I said Hey. Jolly I WANNA. Ask You one more, two, thousand and three question, and then I want to ask you about your return to the Marlins and then. How you. Sort of got like go by. David Samson awkwardly enough on on the orders of Derek Jeeter but Take me inside that. -partment game. Really I think the guy that's most happy about. See is actually Alex Gonzalez from the cubs for booting that tailor-made double-play. Then you start pushing all the right buttons. Just walk me through. Like in the dugout where everything starts clicking, and what was a turning point that you guys thought it had? It wasn't when Alex Gonzalez botched the double play. What was going through your mind and I mean Hollandsworth came in. Their banks came in there. A lot of guys weren't really their numbers weren't called that often start making key contributions in that ending rupp's walk me through that ending in particular well, we're down and we need we need. That club we had was very unselfish club, and it seemed like we took advantage of every opportunity. We got you know and we're. GonNa go back to giants the guy. Mr Floodwall rightfielder Gibson opening, we came through, and we just kept waiting and waiting and we get to eighth inning. and. What's his name leads off. You know with the trouble Why? It looked like hey, this is it for us? We need somebody. Give us a break while we got the break with Barkman and then the real break with with Ghazali. When he boots the double play ball, it would have taken you know bus right at the beginning, but you know after that you know, thank started a pile on. As I. Did I show with Bob Costas? Gonzalo is Mike Law up in New York one time talking about that game, and I always had a secret weapon, and the funny thing is we get the lead in now? All of a sudden I had pinch hit for our double switch with Gonzales. A shortstop and put Mordechai inner Mordechai thumbs up and clears the basis. Would have you know a double? That makes it an eight eight run innings instead of a five running and. They always give me and they said well. How come you ever come in? What would Mordechai because? He's been our secret weapon all year long these it all runs and commended pinch hit home run in the eighth inning. Take him out of the Mike Lola the game for Pinch runner in the ninth inning and table the criticized often you take a thirty game on a thirty home. Run hitter I the game, I some trying to win in nine I'm not claimed for twelve or thirteen, but the guy put into place third base with be immortal. And he this home run to win the game. So yeah. I remember that nationally was It was a head-scratching decision, but watching Mike Mordecai throughout that season. He was a player. You could depend on had a lot of big moments I think he had a walk off earlier that season David, little mikey Mordechai the secret weapon. That's so you guys go on? Obviously when the World Series in Yankee Stadium David us about all the great stories, there your time with the marlins comes to an end. You retire then all of the sudden. David so. We went out we get to the world series. And and Jeffrey comes to me and he said Jack Are you going to have a meeting with your team and? Monuments everything out Yankee. I said Jeffrey. Are you out of your damn mind? I said he's got it. All of their playing in hoboken or new. York or going to function, and we talk about Yankee Stadium. Always interrupt when you've got a great. By the was because Jeffries a Yankee Guy, so he felt the lower of Yankee stadium better than anybody right there David I can tell you one more story, but Jeffrey. Learn New York complained the mets and Glasgow pitch against them against us this Knighton. By ten o'clock in the morning to followers Jeffrey who's catching tonight? I should pudge. Don't you know the to? Redman hits eight hundred against Levin? Owns different I said Jeffrey. We his eight thousand budgets which. Hits. A two run homer in the first any and win the game to nothing so after the Game Jeffrey Office. He said I'll never make an elusive gestion to. Stu Gods here support for the day lebatardshow Woodstock. Goth podcast comes for friends at rocket mortgage by quicken loans home. Today is so much more than it was yesterday, but at rocket mortgage home is still all about you. During these challenging times, the top priority at rocket mortgage is the health and safety of the communities they serve. If you need mortgage assistance, their team is available twenty. Twenty, four seven to answer questions and offer solutions whether that means saving money on your mortgage or finding a new way to navigate payments from their home to yours. 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Who's in the lineup today? Are you thinking about catching Redmond giving Pudge Day off? This is because winning in New York Shea Stadium was critical for us because he didn't like the mats and wanted to win and you're. You were very difficult in those situations. Jack, because you really didn't care. One suggested in any way. Time except me had to deliver that message. Back to Jeff for all. The I. Ever I never looked at. All I can say. Is that A wall of all clubs I've ever worked for you Jeffrey and the whole organization. That never bothered me I mean it was nobody coming in and telling you how to do this added. We hired you do the job. Get us to the world series Ns what I did, but no one ever bothered me but I tell people. How difficult is it? I said that was easiest club I work with. They were great. It was like a family. Run by? Let me do the job and. I don't think they criticises they may. Be Back but I didn't care I look. David. How is this just a Jack Semo? And how much was it true when it just came to Jack Jack Jack Probably bought a lot of capital especially without world series with you guys, but that goes against the narrative of your your meddling ownership so I think that. was after three as we went into Oh, four, no five. We struggled those years and we kept thinking. We had a team that we thought could get it done in five, and it just became a struggle. We couldn't recapture that Oh three magic and I think Jack would agree that. The season was just a big disappointment and I think that if you look to a Game Jack, that defined that Oh five season, and where the frustration level had just boiled over would be that game. Game in Houston with Clemens against pitching against on trial. Do you remember that Game Jack? Oh I remember that game I was at a coldplay concert name for theater, and you guys weren't wildcard chase, and we absolutely needed that game, and I was so worried that we were playing clements, who I thought I'd seen retire and got out of my seat and gave them a super nice gesture. All Terrible Baseball fans here in Florida, doing the right thing, and then all of a sudden. Guys eliminating when the playoffs that was a massive game. Who Started? That was Dontrelle Burnett pitched. Nick Yeah it was. Photographic memory while I was at a coldplay concert. Yeah, that was that was the most heartbreaking loss of that season David's. We were family. Jack. You were you we were family and that's something that you don't hear talked about with the marlins now since the sale that that's sort of family, atmosphere has definitely away Jack or there's no question and you go back to five fifteen. We didn't have that we didn't have that FAMILY GROUP IT WE! We had a group that was probably another year. We can straighten it out only thing I just point. Point I should have been demanding open. That's need him. Now would have been one of you would have been a success while Jack was brought back after a retirement. David can you walk through quickly? What how this decision came about because as Marlins. Fan I obviously love N.. A world series champion back in the Dugout, but Jack was getting older, and this was certainly a curious decision kind of went on a little run. There, knoller elevated go right back now. One bit. David Jack. It's what happened after Oh five as you know. He went through a bunch of managers and were looking for Jack. That's the bottom line. We spent the rest of our careers chasing Jack and there's a little nod to chase you name me, and that's really what we were doing trying to find someone who could bring that respect to the clubhouse. Bring that understanding of how we like to operate. Who is willing to do it the way he wanted, but understood that dealing with me dealing with Jeffrey dealing with Larry, dealing with Mike Kill. It was all part of the job and. And we were going through another managerial change. And Jeffrey said You know what what about Jack You know you know I'm still with us. We still talk and I said listen I, you know we have to talk to him. But the rigors of the game or hard, and the travels hard and I was worried about Jack's age and we spoke to Jack and Jack was ready to go, and so we made that switch, and I remember walking into the clubhouse your first day back for round two Jack. It felt it felt really good while I enjoyed. Come back and like I said. I realized coming back this time. Hey, in all. I don't think I can work at magic with the club. We had at that time, but I did remember one thing of preaching to the guys. Hey if we get the five hundred, we're GONNA take off, and we got the five hundred. If you remember and all of a sudden Ramirez went down second baseman than fun thing down a pitcher went down, and we had nothing to bring up, and that killed us right there. That was the end of that, but I firmly believe am. I GONNA turn that around to having a winning season, maybe not making the playoffs at least having a winning season, but unfortunately didn't work out. To, talk to you sick with the with the marlins organization as a described. What's been described as a luminary? Let's fast forward a little bit, too. Conversation start happening and it seems as Oh. Jeffrey Loria is going to sell the team. Derek jeeter than gets the team and controversially. Let's go of these marlins legends. Tony Perez Andre Dawson and and you're among them. How did you obviously this is an awkward conversation? David had to have it to you. Maybe I'll. I'll see to David here. David Wonka's through. What exactly happens there and? And the heartbreaking conversation you have to Jack So gener knew that we had Dawson. Peres, Conan Jack and they were assistants. Co Nine Resin Dawson. Their titles were Assistant to the president specialist system to the President Jack title that time was Special Assistant to the owner was Jaffrey, and when you're selling a team, their lists of people and what their job titles are and what their salaries are. Are and I was told pretty early on during the process with Derek that that was going be for those. We're going to be four positions that he was gonna not continuous and I explained that I think you'll be why sue. These are people connected to the history of the Marlins Jack won the world series. Jeff is Mr Marlin and Andrei Tony to hall of famers. These are two. Two legends WHO WILL DRESS DURING SPRING TRAINING? They'll be helpful. They'll go to the minor leagues and look at your players. There's just a presence of having these type of people. Jack was always very clear when he came in having met presents. It's just nice to nice to see, but Derek was annot and Derek had said to. You got to contact them and let them know that. Their contracts are not going to be renewed, and so I I made the calls. It was not comfortable, but the real part of the stories what happened after because there was a bunch of heat, put onto Derek and Jack. Could you take over because I believe the Derek or somebody at the request of Derek contacted? You realized they'd made a mistake and wanted you back. How did that go jack well after you told me which I do and I understand you know I've been through ownership changes, and they make you know make the. Guys available to be sent on her way home. And bringing their own people I understood so after the pressure was put on evidently jeter I've got a call from one of the gals office. Call being said Mr Dealer would like to have your numbers in all right to give it. I said Yeah Funds League called me and Gimme all rigmarole all A. All we wanted to discuss the situation it's don't believe everything you read in the papers and we're going to get. All WanNa make some changes, but we certainly talked to in maybe see we can't work out something. I'll be back with you in a couple of weeks. Okay fine well lets see. That's That was September or what your diesel Ariza tober seventeen. Okay, that was September seventeen got the call, and this is what twenty well I'm still waiting to hear from. Mike L. Calls Me and says very. We're going to you. Know Terminate. 'cause you don't live here. Oh, said okay, thanks. How heartbreaking was for you to go through Jack well one too bad because I hated. You know I probably realized that a wall years I've been in baseball all years I've managed in the major leagues that probably Miami was my favorite spot. I thought I had a love relationship with the fans. And they really treated be great and and I love being dominant night. Love us to come back. You know just for like David said you know. Go back to spend the week down there and I'll identities I I couldn't get a walk-through stating getting fifty pictures taken sign autographs. The people love me and I love them. And that was the toughest part of leaving outside. The new ownership. Why not stint? That's their prerogative? I don't have any fault with them. Making changes I just don't like the way they did. It. I mean I don't think anyone listening to this would agree that. They handled that the right way, David, obviously, you're not running things and this would have never happened if if you were still with the club any advice for her Derek Jeeter. I'm sure you have plenty, but. This man should certainly be honored. He is when you think about marlins managers. He is the first face that comes up. What would you do here? I wanted his number retired. I had a lot of thoughts of what we would do with Jack and What's sad to me Jack is that the anger that Derek has toward the old regime? The upset that he still feels about losing member. He was on the Yankees team in those three. Do you know that we have the The O. Three World Series Trophy, and it was a case so when you go. When I went to my office I got to look at that world series trophy every single day and I. Don't know if you know this is no one's ever actually. No one's been told this before, but it is true. That tyrod Derek Jeter is now in my office and he had the world series trophy moved because he didn't WanNa. Look at it, and what's interesting to me about? That is the hurt. He feels both about the world series the anger about the price he paid for the franchise, but is fine to take it out on me, but what he's done is basically a race to everything about that Oh three team out of the Ballpark, a race relationships with all of the people in that that to me hurts the fans, and it hurts the memory of the. The reality is embraced. Ninety seven I wasn't there for the ninety seven world series, but we celebrated the ninety seven. Because that's we're part of a franchise, and that to me is what's disappointing because Jack you deserve to be at Marlins. Park you deserve to be around those fans and they deserve to be around you and that's what's missing and seen you with Washington. It just feels wrong, and I never would have let that happen in. No owner should ever let that happen Jack because you're a forever. Marlin to me, a funny aren't good. It is and. I don't think they realized how much that Tony Andrei Jeff myself could help them Pr. Wise opening season they after they bought the club and I don't think they realized that the the the influence that we had on the people down there. Yeah, it had an adverse effect. Also you mentioned the Oh three trophy, and it is kind of weird that someone that's running. The ball club was actually a player on that Oh three team I understand. It being difficult to look at because it probably everything that we've ever heard about Derek jeter ultra competitor probably stings him that Oh three world series loss. No doubt but turn away from history when for such a young franchise this this team has two world series trophies. Obviously, not not great when you're trying new. Lean on what history got and it's It's pretty upsetting. What's happened to Jack mckeon and hopefully one day soon he can be honored the way that he deserves a gentleman. Thank you so much for taking the time out of this. Especially, Jack, I can't thank you enough for taking the time and figuring out the zoom always done go another hour. I mean I. You know what we might take. You know what maybe we might take you up on that. The Line Jack Thank. You so much for doing this David. Hang on real quick I wanNA get your review. But Jack. We'll say goodbye to you. We've taken enough of your time for this week, but I think you've got some more stories up there. Okay, guys, thank you. Enjoyed being with you in my best to all my fans down there in South Florida, thank you Jack is the best. We'll give you a second to disconnect Jack. I think this might be a bit of A. It's so good to see Jack and he's still on so anyway that. This is great. I figured this might happen, but it's okay. We'll get to review and Jack and just sit there silently as you give you a movie or TV. It's amazing. Just David. What are you reviewing for us this week? Host of nothing personal check on washed movie as you now. I'm still watching movies every day. And David Spade has a new movie I now by the way for everyone listening what we're watching now. Is Jack trying to figure out how to actually leave the zoom? And he's looking around and he's simply cannot do it, so he's still on folks and it's this is perfect. Out, something! or We go by Jack I bunny. I. I. Don't see you guys anymore, but I still. Am you're still in Missoula. Let's push on David so I watch it. There's a new David spade movie that came out on Netflix which I couldn't believe. He's making a new movie, so I watched it. It's it's called the wrong missy. By the way this is exactly when bad things happen. What's going on right now? My consume. Do. We, can we? We have an Admin in the room. Let's go ahead and do this for deported Jag, because I don't think I can keep it together. Thank you, Chris. Pardon me pardon me when I was saying you can go ahead and leave. The zoom chat now thought that that might be a little bit more complicated. On the Internet that goes viral when the camera still on and Jack. and. He starts going back to bed. We were ten seconds away from taking a new Jack mckeon. Oh, you've seen a new Jack mckeon of my God. Yes, I have. I should have asked him about. How did you not ask him about the toilet story? I? Don't the toilets okay? We definitely have to have him back on. You think you'd WanNa do this again. We now that he's done at once. I think there's at least a ten percent chance he can do it again. We just won't ask them to leave. Zoom early Oh God. That was funny. anyways. David Spade made a movie called the wrong missy. And it's so bad really at I was thinking to myself. What happened to David? Spade and he looks older result, or that's fine, but did he make this movie thinking that any part of it was funny that any line there is a wonderful actress who plays one of the MRIs who's a comedian who is tremendous and I forgot her name she. She's good in it. I gotta I gotTa find her name to because I I saw this movie, and my expectations were so low, that I actually ended up enjoying it. It was lights was short and her performance. In particular, the title character was I thought what kept the the movie flow because? David has aged so much that it's not very convincing as a leading man, even though their relationship is somewhat believable, and so he's Asia's leading man, but he to me, he lost to me. He became cynical so when I go back Lauren laptops. Yes, so I go back and look at his performances from his younger days, and some of his brilliance, and yet a failed TV show recently because to me, he just doesn't look like he's working hard. Hard. He doesn't look like he's trying. He doesn't look like he cares. And that comes off on camera I thought the writing was mediocre at best I thought the performance by David was so poor that he almost dragged down the greatness of the leading female character. Molly Sims plays one of the other Mris as well, and I was disappointed. Because when I see things like that, it makes me feel old by the way it happened with Eurovision. Eurovision with Will Ferrell, and so when I see these things happen, it bothers me because David spade should be remembered with greatness and people. Watch this. They're just not gonNA. Feel that way, so I'm going to save ninety minutes year time and say don't watch the wrong. Missy harsh harsh. We typically agree we. We have similar tastes in it, but I guess this is all about managing expectations. My expectations were so low that I actually ended up enjoying. Enjoying it because of the performances and David Spade looking like he doesn't care that sort of been his thing for twenty five plus years, so maybe not the fairest of criticisms, because at this point you gotTa. Know what David Spade is a fully formed adult game changer for anybody, but I thought Laura Lauren Lub. Guess was particularly Great in this role, and I hope big things for her, because she she had a spot on HBO crashing. That I thought was quite good to a short-lived show. That probably should still be around. It was really good. I want a great lesson. Mike about expectations right. I win with high expectations, and so two people can view the same thing and the frame of reference they have is what changes everything and that's what happened in this guests. Yeah, I don't I. Don't think you can watch it on an airline because it's a netflix exclusive but. It's a good airline flick I think perfect. Yeah you've been watching kingdom on Netflix base on the strong recommendation. I gave from last week. What is your? What is your initial thoughts as you're making your way through this series? I've got bags under my eyes. Because I I can't stop and it is a tremendous series. I can't believe the acting I can't believe it's the. It's the artists from billions. Frank Grillo who I never heard of the FRY some on. On billions is is the lead, and he's terrific and I love our every all the actors all the actresses. There is a great combination of of fighting of sex of sweat of drama of drugs of anger of family of scarring. It's it's unreal gray recognition I'd never heard of it and I have still twenty five more episodes and I feel like the luckiest guy in the world I can't wait to this call. Season to Jonathan Tucker in particular. I think this should be a huge movie so I know I said that before, but. His character has the most trauma because of the family dynamic. That's going on there. Getting pulled and billy. A different directions the the scenes with his girlfriend at the time. I mean just truly heart wrenching stuff there Natalie Martinez. An actress from Miami links on in season two. She does a really great job in that show as well so I. Really Thank you for taking me up on that recommendation, because this is a very underrated show, just because not a lot of people know about it and I'm hoping that we breathe new life into the series because I still feel like they got stories to tell. Because at third season feels kinda rushed because of whatever was going on behind the scenes I'm excited to let people now. I'm going to review it on nothing personal. Personal once I'm done with it, but it's the best part of my day. Right now is getting back to kingdom, so thank you for that all right David Samson. We will talk to you unless you're this next week. I'M GONNA be back next week. We'll go. We'll text back and forth to see if we should invite Jack on there. Maybe trade a few stories behind the scenes of I want I. Need to hear this toilet. Sorry I need to hear you tell Jack that you saw him and and experience that altogether so next week will. Thanks for thanks for making this APP and Mike Oh no. Thank you for making that happen, so thank to Chris Wittingham to who was. Essential in! We didn't see Jack mckeon naked this time around, so we will talk to you next week. Everybody, I'm still technically on vacation. GEICO there many reasons why you ride from the thrill of the revving engine and pure adrenaline of flying down the highway to the confidence of knowing that Geico always has your back with twenty four seven access to claim service, but are Snyder has one reason in particular I had extremely large upper arms. They won't even fit into most shirts. Thankfully, biking really embraced his vest culture, so I feel accepted geico motorcycle. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.

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E115: Hyperthermia and Detoxification for Lyme Disease With Michelle McKeon CCN

Living with Lyme

50:31 min | 3 months ago

E115: Hyperthermia and Detoxification for Lyme Disease With Michelle McKeon CCN

"Greetings this is Sydney Kennedy, and I'd like to invite you to subscribe to the podcast series at www dot, living with live dot us. This will keep you up to date on all our new releases living with line podcast. Maybe, discussing very controversial topics, the information contained in these podcasts are from the guests, personal experiences and are their own opinions. These podcasts are intended for information. The opinions expressed are solely the guests zone. Please, discuss treatment options with your personal health care providers before changing or adding treatments enjoy the podcast. Living mid live is brought to you. In part by Dr fired formulations, a supplement company offering products such as Labor, civil harvested liposuction, Oregano oil, and the most Luca patients can purchase without a prescription and practitioners can open a wholesale account and carry the products an office to learn more visit Dr inspired formulations dot Com. 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She specializes in lyme disease and she specializes in all the problems that go along with lime disease in terms of Gut, health and detoxification. She's also very very avid, functional medicine proponent, and how she does a lot of her work. She's an author and she owns a very important company. She's got a very very interesting background and she's going to tell us all about it and. Really educate US so welcome Michelle. How are you doing today? I am doing pretty good. Thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited to be beyond here and Yeah, no, thank you for what you do. I feel like I'm is super misunderstood, and it's podcast like yours that are creating more awareness for lime disease, and really advocating for it, so thank you. You know you try to you. Try to do it. You know it's. Sometimes it's a him. Pardon my French here. It's shovelling shit against the tide. Honest to God. You know meeting with mainstream medicine is so frustrating. It's like just get out of your space. Go do some some classes learn more about it, but they're kind of stuck in the old way. They're old. Education and It's unfortunate because it really is very significant problem so. I know you had your own very significant line journey? So tell us a little bit about what happened to you and Kinda you ended up where we are today. Sure so I was bit when I was eighteen I was working at fire island for the summer as super excited, it was the first year out of college, and so I was with my friends working at an ice store, and then it was kind of like a dorm style, setting up top two are all there for the summer and I was dipped biotech and picked up at me, infected me, not only with lime, disease, but Bartonella Protozoa. mycoplasma pneumonia and house virus, so as lime plus lots of different co-infections, and I went from being completely healthy, my whole life to marry much debilitated. I had full-blown Lyman Colitis so right from the GECKO I had trouble thinking. Heat noise light sensitivity was very severe air, bad dizziness and Vertigo I developed cervical Tonia so that is a neck condition where I didn't have any control over my neck for a while, and developed seventy percent nerve damage to my left inner ear so again a lot of vertigo, dizziness and Trouble functioning at it was just just a complete mess I. Felt like a Zombie tired all the time and a ton of had pressure I'd have to walk around like kind of holding my head because I had so much pressure and this did this happen right away. Did this happen over the summer? Did you have a bull's eye? Everybody I know what's going to say you know. How fast did this come about in? Were you treated or will you not treat? Those are great questions. it Cam I was. I was feeling great, and I woke up the next morning and I went down to go to the beach, and all of a sudden I felt like my body was shutting down so yeah the next morning I woke up and I. Guess The tick must've at me during the night or that morning, and I just didn't feel like myself. they were actually going to helicopter me out of the island. Because my body just really shut down so fast, I had trouble thinking. I had trouble speaking I couldn't move my legs at first and I think that was probably. The cow is in virus because it's like full-blown Encephalitis, a Lotta Times with the POWs virus. yes, so so eventually I did kind of come to, and then I left fire island. I went to the emergency room, but they. You know they I didn't see a rash I never saw tick. Bite me. I did ask a lot about lyme disease, because a higher island is known for line with us and I even asked. The doctor is Barry. When they're, they're like. No, you don't have a rash. Definitely, don't have line. So so yeah, it was really confusing. At first and I went to a bunch of grapes. Facility is in in new. York City I grew up in northern. New Jersey, so we're really close to your. Wonder, like the best of the best hospitals and I had multiple different tests done. still kept asking about lyme disease. hadline tests on everything came up negative, so it wasn't until four and a half years later when I was like completely debilitated that I finally got my diagnosis. meaning that you finally tested positive or someone actually said this chick doesn't have anything else, and it's a clinical diagnosis, so what happened? So. I originally was diagnosed with cervical. Estonia kind of just said you know I think you virus. The damage is done, and you're going to continue to heal, but I would go in waves. I went back to college, and sometimes I'd have symptom flare ups and was really tricking. Not Knowing what was going on in my body I graduated Behemoth Fifth Grade Teacher. Loves teaching, but it got to the point where even simple like fifth grade math problems. I wasn't able to do and I was kind of like what what's happening. What's going on with my brain? I? Really need to take a medical leave. And that's when I did a ton of more research and I came upon a woman story with neurological lyme disease and again this is this is all about the line community a lot of times we find out about different symptoms and how to get treatment through each other. so I reached out to her and. And she told me a lot more about lime, and I went to Kenneth Leaner and I did get a positive PCR testing through a urine sample and I finally had my diagnosis, so yeah, this is four and a half years later, but I know for other people. Sometimes, it's a lot longer. Isn't he cute, Little Teddy, bear guy he's. He's amazing He was the first person that gave me hope that. Maybe one day I'd have my life back. Wow, so, what kind of treatment did you start on during net during that time, I mean here are for plus years out, and this is you know you have collateral damage at this point right? Absolutely most of my symptoms, neurological and that point I started having these weird symptoms of anxiety and depression, and and I've never had those symptoms of force. That was also really frustrating to add that into. into the loop, but we started treatment with antibiotics, and I kind of had a mindset like I'm GonNa? Do really aggressive treatment do this for a year and then I'm going to go back to teaching. And I'm going to have my life back. My Body did not respond to antibiotics I did oral the by selling injections I did I Vienna -biotics process ending a Miocene I mean they had me on everything, and I was also doing like beautifying ideas. VITAMIN SUPPLEMENTS TRY TO BALANCE MY body. I searched over to Dr. Horowitz at that point and we. We really had tried so many different treatments. I mean they were really really amazing there. and they were really trying to work with me, so my question is when you said it didn't work for you. Do you mean that you couldn't handle it? Meaning your body was not detoxify dig. Deep detoxifying, or were you just getting any symptom relief? In the beginning I got a little symptom relief, and then and then I had trouble with my pick line, so I stopped for peaks and I relapse completely, so it was a lot of like moving forward one step going back to steps and for me because it was chronic, lyme I I think I had a lot of biofilms and biofilms that goes around the antibiotics can't go through the biofilms to get to the infection, and so some of the infection would hide, and the antibiotics win all of it. It would come out when I got off of antibiotics. Cycle bed. My body was not responding to you, and I became sicker and sicker I, having got issues. And I got to the point where I lost so much weight I was down to ninety pounds. and I just wasn't able to wait and I god. You almost had to be put in a car seat. You didn't wear enough. It was it was really really it was really a crisis. I couldn't recognize my friends or family I can I looked at American. Recognize Myself I. Yeah I was a disaster neurologically. It had completely taken over My brain and we're kind of like. Like okay, we need to do something fast. Because I'm not gonNA. Make it if we don't do something fast, and that is when my doctor is recommended. HYPERTHERMIA treatment which was terrifying and I had a panic attack in the doctor's office when they told me about it, but then I did a lot of research on it and I realized. You know what I think. This is probably be the best treatment for me. It's probably my best shot and getting my life back. Oh my God, just the thought of that. Okay, so so who who recommended that Dr Witches Office so they yeah they. They were throughout this whole process, and we're kind of at the point where we needed to do something something different, and so they had heard about hyperthermia, and they had put me in touch with a few people to reach out to them and find out about it so bad they'd helped a little bit with the process, but it was really kind of like reaching out to these people and I'm talking to them and hearing their success and I'm. GOING OVER THERE And we're joined by Germany right at this point. Yes, I want you to Saint George Clinic. Germany I stayed for two weeks of Treatment and now they offer additional third week, but but yeah. It is an inpatient hospital that you receive to whole body hyperthermia treatments. I'll go into that a little bit. And then you receive a lot of detox therapies. You've got there and you do a lot of detox ing. They keep you busy all throughout the day getting your body ready for hyperthermia and getting new you know other infusions like ozone vitamin. C would on just really trying to build your body up. You're seeing of your first hyperthermia juryman. It lasts about five hours. you you get up to. To Above One oh five is the goal I tell everybody that you are. You're under sedation. You are in a toilets, so you don't remember anything you countdown ten. And then I woke up later and I was exhausted, but it I wasn't in pain. You know it's a lot by to go through, and you're having died. Offer reaction as well from all the from all the pathogens that are expelled. But but yeah, it is. It is a very safe procedure It sounds a lot scarier than it is I've had it done. I also gone on with my clients to treat and I've seen them. Get a dime. an accent, hundreds and hundreds of people over there and we really haven't had complications so when you do look into hyperthermia treatment. You WanNa one nick sure that for lime disease, it needs to be extreme whole body. Your whole body is getting heated up as Linus a Senate. That to you. WanNa go above one five degrees so extreme whole-body because many clinics out there only do moderate hyperthermia treatment, so that's one hundred and four degrees that is great for boosting your immune system, but it's not going to get high enough to kill these lime pathogens. So Janette, dewitt, they heat your your head to be either heating your whole body. Yeah, whole body, you mean. Yeah, you're. You're adding to that temperature as well and it's not immediate. They slowly bring the temperature up, and your vitals and everything are watched to make sure your body can handle it I might keep your the peak anime slowly. Bring you down Yes, so. Again it found scarier by it, but I was able to handle it. And we see the sickest of the sickest people and all of them are able to handle it. You are very closely monitored the hospitals that I work with us. The half machine which I feel like is the best machine for this would take again it's. It's a hackle machine. heckle light joker hackel. CK Yeah, Yeah Yeah E. L. E.. I think it's L.. Yeah, okay, well, you know it's you know the English language. L. E. E.. L. A. Gets confusing. Yeah, I think that is how you spell it, but that is the top notch machine and you WanNa make sure it's through infrared heat, which is the safest way to do it and you WanNa? Make sure you're an impudent hospital, because it's a lot by to go through. And when pathogens die, they expel toxins. Toxins also create inflammation which is going to give you more symptoms, so you WanNa. Make sure your body can handle this. You WanNa make sure the is hospitals are detecting you and getting down this inflammation yeah so. That hospital was great for getting these pathogens Outta my body, and then helping me detox. Okay, so this was a two week stint got there you have to obviously fly there? and. Then this process now. This was how many years ago. I am thirty two now and I went when I was in my early twenties, I went like nine years ago. Okay, okay, so was there a significant difference? Immediately both good and bad. Okay, so when I had spoken with people that've gone, they had noticed an immediate difference, so I was expecting to go over there and come back feeling great. That was not the case for me. I came back, and I always felt a little bit better, which is really scary I mean I'm in my early twenty S. my brain still can't function and now like this is the only treatment that was going to work for me and I. Still I'm still sick but I know you. Sick. Sick then do you have KwaZulu symptoms? Do you have pain? I know that your brain is like Squirrelly, but but what about other things, so? My symptoms were Vertigo, stale. Horrible it's debilitating. Yes, white heat noise sensitivity anxiety had pressure tons of brain fog. I couldn't sleep at all. I, had insomnia, so my symptoms had lessened, but not. To the degree that I'd be able to go back to work. And, so I I came back. Notice these little improvements every day and I was like okay. My Body is responding to it, but what is exactly going on, and I did a lot of research, and I spoke with more doctors, and I was just really toxic. It's not that hyperthermia didn't work. It's just pathogens die bake, N, N toxins formed, and we have to get these toxins out to see him relief, so I did a lot of detoxing I did fine ideas. I did the Patricia Keane Protocol which are four different ideas that not only help you detox, but also help repair cell membrane damage, so it's ludicrous I am. It's Luca warn. It's fast the title Coleen and beauty rate, and they were amazing and a recovery process for me, It was hyperthermia. The did a great job county pathogens. Patricia can protocol that really helped my body detox and repair. It was that joint approach that used that gave me my life back so yeah I would receive these ideas, and and then I did infrared Saunas. toxin binders for the Saunas I. would do you talks fast? I would do Kalanick's happy demise. I would sing off full time job. This is nothing like getting over. You know whatever, but this is a full time job and you have to be all in. This is one of the biggest problems we have is not understanding that it is an I'm caring for someone right now and I. I unfortunately frightened him because I said. It. This is a journey, and this is not quick. Fix You know. Thank goodness. He's not having this neurologic stuff. Because this is really really bad, but none the less people have to know and they have to. They have to take charge and take control. Yeah, exactly and doing a detox treatment once a day kind of helped me. Mentally say okay, I'm doing something every day. That's helping me move forward so three months from when I came back from the George. notice significant results. I was able to say my body is responding to treatment, and I am moving forward six months after treatment I was tested again and. came out may give so before I went to hyperthermia treatment. I was tested at FRY. Laboratories and FRY lab is pretty cool, because look the blood smear and see how substantial the infection is in your system, so I had that to look and compare to when I came back and everything negative. Told me, you know what hyperthermia did a lot to kill pathogens. When I came back I was able to get the inflammation out on the toxins out, and then I also used Stephen. BUEHNER is protocol for anti-microbial herbals to kill whatever is left in my system I. Don't think hyperthermia kills everything. I don't think there a cure out there for lime. Disease I think line is incredibly articulate. Infections in general is incredibly complicated, and there are all these little pieces to the puzzle to fully get better so yeah. hyperthermia played a role in killing pathogens. And then my body responded really ball to the anti microbial herbals. Buehner right right right I. I. Really I really think that it's super important to I. Think it's an all angle approach. You can't just Kinda just on one thing you know. I'm super impressed debt. People who have a great immune system to start and they're able to Kinda know wrap around! You know maybe a month of antibiotics and they're beautiful. Everything is great, but even people like that. You know six months down the road. Can all of a sudden start developing odd symptoms in I? Really I feel terrible for people who just take a diagnosis like M., ass or a LS, Lou GEHRIG's disease, and not ask questions about it and none understand that general lab tests are. Not as sensitive not as reliable as more specific testing, as they go along their merry way, and they're just not educated and I was one of those people I relied on the medical. MODEL, and saying Hey Gimme. They know what they're doing. When they went to medical school, right, I went to N. P. School a Masters degree. Did I know anything about it? No and I was one of those kind of like. Those people are crazy because people are crazy. And then I became the crazy person I became the crazy person and my first symptom, and isn't it the craziest thing when you think about it on that specific day date and time I know exactly when my first symptom occurred, and it was anxiety, and it was hilarious, because this was all happening in my head, and wasn't feeding into it because I knew what it was, so I was like this is ridiculous. What is this all about? You know that was it you know like? Oh, Gosh, so you know similar. I had a similar path, not not anywhere near as significant as yours, but you know here I am somewhere around almost nine years. Trying to you know. Get Get your body back. Get your body back. Get your system back and make yourself healthy, and you know so that you can lower the inflammation I think an a will add this little bit about covid right now. 'cause recording here in twenty twenty. People. Who got sick? People who died had to have. A level of inflammation that was either unrecognized or diagnosed with a diagnoses such as diabetes such as cardiovascular disease, high blood pressure, these type of things arthritis, whatever there is some inflammation there, and that just sets a stage for a big fire. I completely agree I. Think Kobe has been very interesting. A lot of the cytokines are the same cytokines as lime disease. So the whole thing with site opines face, start inflammation, and then with Kobe it is blocking. People from it's. It's having with their lungs and people can't breathe and going respirators, but if we get the estate of out before it gets to that level, people wouldn't get as sick as they are. And I think we'd be experiencing a lot less five fatalities, so I did a I did a research article that I send into towns on what are able to interview a bunch of doctors from China and then of doctors around the US in different parts of Europe. List you, who are you? Yeah it was just really curious. I wanted to see if some of these treatments would respond on same treatments as lime disease would respond with Kobe patients, and so looking into I B. I g ozone, lithium, ion, vitamin C. I B. As and when you give them at high dose, it does help. The cytokines released decrease that inflammation. It's A. It's a cascade. People have to understand something happens. That triggers something else, and then it's Your your immune system is like military, so you have those sentinel guards right, and they then send out warnings to other members who then send out troops, who then now the communication isn't there and the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing, and then you have a proliferation of inflammation based on. On the fact that your body gets out of control and there isn't a regulatory way to diminish what's going on and that's how you have to control things, so you have to really rain in, and you have to go. You know it's detected. Stan, gut health, it's it's all of that and you understand that you know in the functional well. It's not just kill. Kill Kill Kill it how to? Get your stress. Levels down had to get you to sleep how to deal with. You know you're either. Probably lack of support for some people as well as just movement. Let's get you moving. Let's get you been. 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You're feeling better and now you're. You're caught. You've been really really. Feeling like Gosh. This is my path. How did how did it go from there? What did you do? And how did you get to be where you are today? Which is incredible? Thank you! So I I was starting to feel like myself again, so I started writing blogs to try to advocate for Hyperthermia as a successful treatment option for people with tick borne infections that also helps people that are dealing with cancer, as well and I stayed in touch with the hospital that I went to and worn. More people started reaching out to me for my. My blogs and asking. Can you tell me about your experience? What did you do beforehand? What did you do after and I, told them all about detoxing and I also ended up. Looking into militias have got us changing my diet, so that's when I really decided. You know what this is. Something that I wanNa do long-term and that I'm really passionate about. And that's when we create Atlanta Cancer Services, and that is a company where we help people with scheduling before they go to hospitals that offer hyperthermia treatment, we help people with lime, disease and cancer. We freighted to books to really hold their hand along the way, and we go over every detail of the treatments of what to expect when you're there how to travel what to do when you come home treatment wise and then I decided to go back to school and create a nutrition practice. balancing pathway as I ended up going to school at University of Bridgeport and I got my master's in human nutrition and bouncing pathways works with helping people specifically before they go giving them less toxic and getting their got ready, and then when they come back, we work with them in killing any pathogens. They have left. DETOXING now is dead pathogens out of their system, and then I work with them on mold issues which I see as a huge roadblock for a lot of my clients, I helped heavy metal issues with binders and and then really changing their diet out and trying to figure out if we are missing any pieces so that they have the most sustainable results. Yeah. That's it sounds. People need that support Michelle. People need that support and you know you'll. You're probably here or you do here. I'm sure I can bet my life on it that people. Have lost faith in medicine They feel taken advantage of. They feel on cared for and when they meet someone like you. That says okay. Sit Down, let me explain. Let me offer. Let me educate and let me help you Oh my God that just the ability to guide someone is is so important is really. Is really something that it is a calling, isn't it? I mean you couldn't get away from. It. Just kept tapping you on the shoulder, right? He got something I've become really passionate about. Yeah, and you're really you're very educated. You and I've had some conversations and I was like. Wow, I forgot that. Yeah, yeah, I gotta do that, so that's awesome. That's awesome when you said we WHO's we? You me myself and I. Can't services I now work with Christina, Carter? WHO's GonNa Amazing? She helps with consoles, and then at bouncing pathway. It's just me but really I. Guess Arenas Whole Journey. My friends family have been very very supportive, so it's been. Spent whole village that had helped me get to wear am today. Tell me about Christina Carter. Yes Oh Christina actually had line disease as well and so she went for hyperthermia treatment and she started advocating for hyperthermia. A successful treatment option, and so I reached out to her, and I just said I. Love what you're doing and and I don't know if you'd be interested and working with Limi- cancer services, and she's been amazing so she had line her daughter had her husband had line, and then her son had lyme through congenital transmission, so she is incredibly passionate about helping people. She really understands all the different recovery, fat recovery factors, and just as like. Working with someone, she's been credibly supportive with me and. It's been. It's been very amazing having the team. Yeah, and it's nice because it's. It's good to be able to bounce things off. Someone who's been there. You know there's no. There's no judgment factor. Right you know it's. It's really it's really hard, so so in here we are today. Do you feel like you're fully recovered? So I. Don't think I'm dealing with pathogens anymore. I think that because I was so sick I still have some damage. I have still have seventy percent damaged my left inner ear, and when I push it too much than I will have a little bit of Vertigo so when I was going back to school and working full-time. Someday that'd be like okay pushing it too much. I'm seeing some vertigo! But but really for the most part I have my life back. I. I ha- a healthy lifestyle. Eat Healthy I. try to detox once a week whether it's an infrared sauna or clinic or something like that, but I'm able to do everything that I want to do in my life I feel like myself again and when I do have set-backs I was like in A. I had I was in a place that had mold, and so I did start feeling semi symptoms. Come back, which was really scary, but then you detox and I know what to do to get my body healthy again so I was able to do that, but but yeah I'm. I am feeling myself again and it's been. Still on time to get here, but it is possible so people that are still sick. Don't give up hope because you can definitely get there. Did. You know that your environment had mold. I always WanNa know you know like Something's not right. The symptoms that I have when I'm around. Mold is Vertigo and eighty and brain fog, so I normally feel pretty healthy every single day, but I started feeling. Some of those symptoms announced clue like. What's going on and then I realized okay. There I was in animal environment, and so I got out of that might have been detained. In can I suppress that and I just couldn't. Thank you. Okay. Yeah, you know sick buildings or problems? Yeah and people need to know that yeah mold is significant. I have a lot of I have a lot of interest. with people I think it's more curiosity. About Kalani Lake or coffee ANIMAS. Can you. Can you explain a little bit more about that? Sure so I think they're great ways to detox I. think that sometimes people can go overboard as you definitely want to work with a hydra, therapist or someone that really understands what they're doing, but a clinic is able to go deeper into your system ben a than an animal. Assault usually had some of my clients do a colonic once a month, and then some of my clients will do a coffee once a week. Depending where they are in treatment, a coffee enema is great, because it stimulates, go on, and on helps body detoxify the natural way for your body to detoxify, so those are kind of y you can. See the benefits of a academic and a coffee on nights, really just helping getting these toxins out of your system, decreasing the inflammation and helping you feel like yourself again. Similar all. They love their coffee, but they don't coffee. Like that you know. What. He ever figure this out you know like. Did someone fall on their Coffee Cup and then they're like. Oh, wow, I feel so much better. I mean what how did that even begin great question? I have no idea I would love to find that out. I remember when I first heard about. Coffee is like business crazy? This lady and be crazier hyperthermia treatment and I was I started it when I came back from hyperthermia, looking into ways to detox and my two friends. Taylor Margaret like helped me throughout this whole process. They actually would come over and help me with coffee animas it on Tuesday night. To figure out the whole process I bet, and at it helps me feel better now I can do them on the on to yeah. Yeah Yeah. bridget danner has a really good youtube on on coffee, animas and I I like it because you know in theory. I get it, but it's really good to see now. Obviously, she wasn't. You know nudie inner tub doing it, but she really she really Kinda portrayed the person. While she had her clothes on, and and how it would be, and it's Yeah kind of like you know despite day kind of thing you know haven't tried it, but understand that it's it can be very very helpful. I guess explaining it and talking to a person about it. You really have to have a way to make it sound not as invasive as it is, and just portrayed those those really good benefits of increasing. Antioxidant Glutathione, and just really having that is such a huge benefit, and some people will just really say Oh, my God I feel so good after. He I think it's important when you're dealing with toxic issues that you try to get the toxins out from there, so you're calling your liver, but also your lymphatic system, and that's where an herb like red route in a people with Bartonella, specifically have issues with their lymphatic system in the toxins. Getting stuck there, so using infrared Saunas to get toxins out of the skin Columbus. Get things out of the colon rhetoric to get things that'll emphatic system. It's rate to incorporate all these different modalities to really make sure your inflammation going down right, right? Right before this whole crisis occurred in pandemic. My wellness center was. Days away from opening and one of the things that I'm so excited. To offer is far infrared sauna I for people who really are not up to that yet. Because of course that can promote A. Die Off for sure. I. Do have a far Red Matt. That does the same well similar, because it is some penetration, not so much as certainly the sauna, but it's called the biomass so both of those services. You did okay. I I love it, too. Is. Really interesting is the first time I use I used it I was at a conference I was like. I just had this. Not. Not, a horrible headache, this nagging headache and I didn't know really what it was, and so I, said well, I told them, and they said here have a treatment so i. don't know. was there laying down for? Twenty minutes I kinda get Zeke has got a little. A little shield over my eyes and I'm wondering who staring at me. anyways, so I got up and I was I. I and then within fifteen minutes after I was like. Oh it's gone. It's gone so. It is a lot about that that input into the body in those things that our body really needs and I think people really need to. Try Try different things especially if they're not feeling as well as they should, and they're like well. Maybe I should give this a world. Especially things that are going to do harm nearby I think people are very concerned about things that could that they're not comfortable with they don't know. You know you say the same thing that I. Do you really have to get to the gut? What is your experience with gut healing especially after antibiotics. Yes so I? Thank got health is a huge part of getting better because inflammation in the gut also causes inflammation in your brain so I would notice when I eat certain foods, I would start having different symptoms that were more neurological. Not We've got issues and I could definitely see that connection, but even working with my clients, so many of them being on antibiotics and having to born infections, they're dealing with CBO and leaky guide and IBD. Yeah, it's. It's really really tricky and so I work with them. Really healing the Gut lining, we incorporate different things into their diet. I usually happen on an elimination diet so i. take them off things. Their body is having an inflammatory reaction to and then I. Corporate Foods that are going to build the lining up the gut bacteria, and then also I add in different smoothies and supplements. Supplements and powders to again build the lining so that you can fully heal, and it is a process, but usually within a few months we are able to see a lot of results, and then we can start introducing the suits back in without having that inflammatory reaction right right, it's a it's an over sensitization, and there are people that become very sensitive to environment to send to. You know to food stores kind of things that never bothered them before do you? Are you a big proponent of? Removing gluten from the Diet. For many of my clients, I seek gluten to be an inflammatory component. So I think that it can be helpful. Initially a lot of times it is individualized, but really looking at the clients that I've had in the past win is one of the things gluten sugar dairy, those are usually limited initially from the Diet, but then they don't have to be forever, and you can introduce some back end. I, right I mean longtime ago, gluten free things were far and few between we had A local, pizza, place. My husband went out and came in I, did not came in with this box i. knew what it was I was like all diem. No, because the crest is gluten free, and then I said Oh damn no. What is fabulous? It was delicious and it was awesome so yeah, so I wish I had their recipe, but I don't so you know I think that overall people really need to find that person that is listening to them, and they feel that they can offer a variety of different ways. One shoe doesn't fit every foot right, so when's is doesn't fit. All and individual approach is GonNa be much better than kind of an overall, and I think that by people learning and understanding that they can really can empowered to say hey, you know what about this or what about that people reach out to me. Just with general questions. How do people reach you? How do people work with you? Find out more about you. Get your e books where where people go, tell me. A lot of it is through word of mouth, or the Internet I also is doing a bunch of conferences before Kobe happened, but yes, so you can either reach out at through email or hall out, and I would send over different forms as I get a better idea of everything going on in your system To See if we'd be able to be a good fit, each other and I can help them. Move forward and and then we get started so for people looking into hyperthermia treatment. We have them send over different laboratory tests, and then we send that over to hospitals, and we help with scheduling, and then people looking just for general general, not even lime disease. It could just be got health, or could you just feed mold issues? Issues than they go through bouncing pathway, and we have a discovery call, so it's an initial free call that kind of just goes over their health history and gives us idea. We'd be a good fit. And then I sent him over forms, and we began work together. They can do individual consults or I also have different programs that are three month programs six month programs depending on what they're looking into. And so, what is the websites? So my nutrition practice is balancing pathways asset, www dot, bouncing pathways dot com, and then for Hyperthermia, treatment and information and scheduling on that. It is Wyoming Cancer Services Dot Com. That's excellent. That's excellent is a great resource. You know for many many people especially if they really have. Interest or you know I think sometimes the person gets to the point where they just have to do something else, but the family is probably holding them back a little bit because of fear. So do you find that as is an issue? Yeah. I think that when people come to us, they are completely exhausted and they're kind of like. We've tried everything this is. This is so frustrating and we don't know what to do from here and I got it like. I've definitely been there and yeah, so we are able to kind of hold their hand through the process and do a lot of the the work for them so that they can. Can kind of just sit back a little bit and understand what's going on. also lyman cancer services as a completely free service, which is nice, because I feel like everything with line, disease, super expensive but yeah, so we kind of are just there to help you along with the process. Make sure you know if you do hyperthermia treatment, which is Pricey. We WanNa make sure you do it right and. And there is a lot involved with tick borne infections and general. It's not a silver bullet treatment for everyone that we wanna make sure that you're prepared before you go, and we look into every different, also Pius, you come back. You have again most sustainable results the elephant in the room. What's the cost factor for going over in having hyperthermia? It depends on the different clinics. We work with two hospitals in Germany the Saint George, hospital and Dr Hers Ox. Hospital doctor Herzog. is about trump thousand five hundred euros for two weeks St George. Hospital is around sixteen thousand five hundred euros for two weeks, and then we also work with Santa. Me Of Medical Institute in Baja. California Mexico which has been amazing especially during Kobe, because it's easier to get to for people in the states. They really haven't had any issues with Kobe and. Any Asa there about twenty thousand US dollars, so it's it's about the same as the Saint George Hospital. Everything is included in regard to your room and your meals and. An on your treatments as well. Do you work with any foundations that offer financial assistance for people going through this? I have. To a few different foundations and we are looking into. Various projects that we can do to help people afford this treatment as of right now we're in the works with things, but for right now I tell my clients to always ask for an itemized bill when they come back from the hospital. Because a lot of times, my clients low re-submit to their insurance company, and they are getting a significant amount. Back is not a guarantee, but I'm happy I'm seeing it happen more often than not so I mean every little bit helps when you're dealing with lime disease, especially in I can go for post, treatment and helping you detox Yeah, so it's really worth as those questions that that's true and it's great advice. Did we miss anything here? Do, we cover just about everything. I think I think we did. A Good Job Lady, good job you. Wonderful so listen everybody. If you have any questions, please reach out to Michelle. mckeon her information certainly will be on the website as well and for those who are stuck home I hope you're listening to all the PODCASTS and enjoying them. If you have any concerns or questions, you can reach out to me at Cindy at pursue wellness dot us and. visit the website www dot pursue wellness dot us as well and. Come back and listen to us again. Tell us what you'd like to hear I. Appreciate everybody out there. I wish all well. Stay Safe and love everybody that you love. Of course she do okay take care bye bye, thank you for listening to another episode of living with line. We'd like to take another moment to thank our sponsors. Botanical medicines are important part of an integrative Lime Disease Program. Bio. Sidon from bio botanical research is a professional strength broad spectrum formula that has been extensively researched for effectiveness as nutritional support in live and co-infections. 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AP One Minute Headlines Feb 08 2019 19:00 (EST)

AP Radio News

01:30 min | 1 year ago

AP One Minute Headlines Feb 08 2019 19:00 (EST)

"You deserve a current account. That isn't all take. That's why a on post. We're doing party for thirty. Just open an easy to use her into count. With us launch thirty euro. I we'll give you another thirty euro for free to open a current account like Gibbs pumping into your local post office today or search imposed current account. Terms and conditions apply. Offer ends March thirty first two thousand nineteen see smart account dot ORG for details. On post is authorized by the minister for finance to provide payments services, and is regulated by the central Bank of Ireland in the provision of such services Whitaker at house committee. I'm Tim Maguire within the AP news at New York Democrat came Jeffrey's question acting attorney general Matthew Whitaker's, qualifications all trying to figure out who are you? Where did you come from? And how to heck did you become the head of the department of Justice Whittaker face contentious House Judiciary committee Democrats trying to find out if he tried to interfere with special counsel, Robert Muller? Georgia Republican Doug Collins says a hearing was a political stunt. This is nothing more than a. Character assassination, and we're going to also decide to see if we can just do something and get at the president while we're had the chance congressman Don mckeon and four other members of the Virginia Democrats in congress are calling for Lieutenant governor Justin Fairfax to resign. Mccutchen says fair fax should deal with accusations of sexual assault from two women as a private citizen. Second woman came forward today saying Fairfax assaulted her when they were students at Duke University. He has denied the allegation, I'm Tim Maguire.

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Fortnite Vs. Backpack Kid: Dance Battle Royale

The Indicator from Planet Money

09:54 min | 1 year ago

Fortnite Vs. Backpack Kid: Dance Battle Royale

"Shane mckeon Stacey van expense. You. Brought us a story here at the indicator. That's right. It is a strange complicated tale that could only happen in two thousand nineteen in you claim it all fits into one sentence. Exactly backpack. Kid is suing fortnight for stealing the floss. That does not make sense like words. Yeah. Just kind of sounds like mad list for gen Z. Okay. So you're going to have to decipher this for people who are not in jen's e right? Who are a little earlier abets? Right. But even though that's kinda sounds like nonsense. Yeah. Packed inside of it. Or all these hugely important questions about who owns what on the internet. There's a lot happening in the floss. Yeah. There. Arms. Yeah. This is the indicator from planet money. I'm Stacey manic Smith, and I'm Shane mcken today on the show when someone gets famous on the internet often the biggest challenge they face as turning that celebrity into money one teenager who started a viral dance craze that took over dance floors and Instagram stories everywhere, he's funding miss out first-hand. Support for this NPR podcast and the following message. Come from WordPress dot com with powerful site, building, tools and thousands of themes that she was from users can launch site that's free to start with room to grow. Get fifteen percent off any new plan. Purchase at WordPress dot com slash indicator. Support also comes from Lincoln people visit Lincoln every day. So when you need to make a higher linked in can help by matching your role with more of the right people head to Lincoln dot com slash indicator for fifty dollars off your first job host, terms and conditions apply. Okay. Shane I feel like you should give us the sentence again. Yeah. So that's was backpack kid is suing fortnight for stealing the floss. I think we should just take this one down at a time. So let's start with backpack. Kid. He is this skinny teenager with long. Bony arm the backpack and a backpack. Okay. And few years ago. He's living in Georgia. Posting video. Does of himself dancing on Instagram when all of a sudden one of these videos goes viral, and it's so popular that Keedy Perry invites him on SNL to do the dance show. That's ends. I understand. The kid took the stage as Katy Perry performed. And in about two seconds took over the show. So this dance that he is doing it's called flashing the floss the stance where you sort of describe over basically, you take your arms, and you swing them to and fro and you're sort of floss seeing your hips between your arms, you've you've seen kids. I've seen this. Yeah. Yeah. If you glib people will be able to it's like, you're flashing your hips. Yeah. Pretty much. But anyway, the thing you have to know about backpack. It is he made the floss famous. Okay. So this is his thing. Exactly. And that brings us to the next part of the sentence, which is fort night or at night. So fortnight it's like this online multiplayer battle royale game. So you, you know, you're on a team, and you're trying to shoot the other team and you're collaborating with people. Okay. But one of the things you can do in fortnight is you can do these dances. Avatar can do David talking to these dances. And your friends can see your avatar dancing one of the dances. You can pay for in the game is the floss. So the of all these like millions of online avatars flossy, they're hips inside of this really popular video game. Right. Exactly. And not only that all of these people who have paid this video game company for the ability to do this dance. Right. Right. So like cleaning up, and it's been cleaning up. Right. Exactly. And fortnight is owned by this company called epic games. And one of the major ways at the games makes money off a fortnight is by selling these dance upgrades. And there are a bunch of other dances from the real world. You can do in this game. You can do the Carlton. You can do the mili- rock all these real world dances that someone else made famous. You can pay for them and do them inside the game. Okay. And so backpack kid, right? He looks at fortnight, and he sees this company making a ton of money. Yeah. Selling the dance he made famous, and he's like what the hell. L I want some of that action. You know, like they're making a book. This is my dance pick it as a point. And so backpack kid is suing EPA games and some lawyers have gotten involved. Wow. So we were talking about art. For example. This is David Hecht. He's one of backpackers lawyers. If someone went into the studio and copied in either took a picture traced over something, we would call that theft who'd say that that's copyright infringement in music, if you had a song, and they sampled from another song that would require the whoever sampled to pay license in this case at the has not paid anyone a dime. We call up epic games, but they declined to comment backpack. It's lawyers are basically arguing look backpack. It is an artist the floss that's his art. And so backpack. It has filed for some copyrights at least one of which has been granted. But that doesn't mean he owns that arms. Winging move that all the kids. Doing the copyright statute. Does protect what the statute calls Choreographic works. This is just Littman. She teaches law at the university of Michigan. But it doesn't protect building blocks like dance steps a Corey graphic work that is the standard that congress has set for copyrighting dances. So like a forty minute ballet the nutcracker the nutcracker. A sequence of lots of moves performed over time. But a single dance move that Littman says is a building block, it'd be like owning a copyright on a single sentence or a cord, and if you grant copyright protection for a single dance move it could lead to some pretty weird scenarios. So if backpack kid owns the floss, then whenever anyone performed the flaw, son the dance floor in club. He could bring suit against the club. And. Say you are publicly performing or causing people to publicly perform my dance, and you can't do that. And the club would have to say to people don't wave your arms because we don't wanna get sued by backpack. Kid. I have this image right now of backpack kid walking around a club like threatening to sue do. I mean, he's not like old enough to get into. Old enough to get into the club. You can't do that. I know to send in a proxy. Yeah. Right. Some older version of backpacks. Pacman man. But right, this sort of bizarre scenario, this is why decisions about copyright and choreography are so important because the copyright office. Doesn't wanna be acting like the town from footloose or something way? I mean, nobody wants that excess may become Bigan. Yeah. I mean and call us Kevin. He was great in that. Anyway in the case of backpack it and flossy ING the courts are going to have to decide what does backpack kid actually own. And what is epic using is a dance move or in entire dance? The answer to these questions will determine what epic owes backpack kid. If epic owes back-back kid, anything, right? I still feel sort of bad for backpack. Kids you do. Yeah. Like, right. This big corporation came in as profiting off his thing and just Littman. She kind of feels the same way kind of. I really understand why he might be upset because he popular. Is this move. And suddenly a electric game company is commercializing without his permission at the same time. He has profited enormously from the popularity but copyright doesn't entitle anyone to appropriate all of the value of something that they create ZOA copyright is not just about protecting artists. It's also about balancing artists interests and the public interest. This is supposed to help artists get paid for their work, but people shouldn't be barred from enjoying that work how they want to like flashing on the dance floor so backpack. His lawyer argues floss is not just this one move. He says they've got a case we'll see in any case it is up to the US copyright office. Flashing dance move or choreography. In the meantime, backpack kid has taken up another pastime of a young white teenage. Who've gotten famous on the internet. He's trying to lever to celebrity into a rap career. Like, I do it with my team. The US any Ron have been at odds for a long time. And we tend to think it all started with the Iranian revolution in nineteen seventy nine. But that's not the whole story this week on through line. We'll take you back to four days in nineteen fifty three that changed the US Iran relationship forever through line where we go back in time to understand the present.

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Salsibury Stakeout 10-13-20

The Sean Salisbury Show

09:41 min | 2 weeks ago

Salsibury Stakeout 10-13-20

"The fall saving sale is happening. Now at mattress warehouse, save up to one thousand dollars plus get zero percent interest financing for sixty months. Unsure of which mattress is right for you people are but mattress warehouse is home to bed mapped diagnostic system that recommends the best mattresses for your individual support needs try for yourself today in the mattress warehouse one year price guarantee means you know you're getting the best price why shop anywhere else visit sleep happens dot com for a location near you. Charles, Barkley. You guys thought I put on some weight since my playing days usually Sean Solos Borough arbed now back to the Sean Searle Bara show. What a knucklehead? Sharon woody here not there now Salisbury's takeout. Hurry steakhouse. On the Sean Salisbury show. Right. Sager started out for us which. Will no Well I mean I think you're wrong but. Can you tell me why I just don't think that she's at hot? Okay Go. STRAIGHT UP WE'LL AJ hinch be the white sox next manager. Aj. Hinch will manage somewhere next. I would imagine judging from what the way it's a well, we'd like somebody with World Series or playoff type experience in the last couple of years or whatever it was set out of Chicago. They'd be idiots not often the job he'll be employed by the time we hit December. It'll be employed by the end of next weekend probably series. What are we in October met by by? November. As soon as the world series in right so why would I say December I meant November, because we're in October. I'm all screwed up on my months by in November yeah. It ends the day the World Series, right? So that game in. J. J. Hinch unemployment, and is not being able to take a salary. Is. It's he start getting paid again. So absolutely, and if the white sox are crazy enough to pass on him fish somebody else I wanted a lot of money him BA managing the white sox. The best job that's going to become a well, you know what it is. It's the Astros when they were building to it is they don't quite have. That's exactly what it is and they've got bats power youth. Attitude Swagger. Of, course, but they're on the they're on the cost would be world series talk to you how they made the playoffs this year, and he may just be the guy, do it now, and if you have to overpay to do it, do it enjoy Chicago family? Yes. He loved you here in Houston Yep and he will be an instant impact on them. So if they're dumb enough to pass on him, somebody else get him, he will be employed by the time you say happy Halloween. How's that? makes. Sense yeah he's going to help in. Either Chicago or Detroit one is. Well. Chancellor, there's a chance LARUSSA and Jim Leyland right may is Leyland still life. I think. So I still alive I was kidding because we always joke about. But he's older. Yeah. But he's passed away Jim. Leyland's alive. He's seventy five. There you go in. Seventies to right. Larussa Leland or going to the white sox and tigers. Watch out for Jack mckeon could happen to trader Jack Yes trade don't still alive as well. He works for the national do not hate on Trader Jack We used to call him in San. Diego. Trader Jack Markey GonNa make overseas he's not alive he actually Feel. Garner. We wanted to do scrap iron. Do we want to know when Jack I mean when spark amps and passed away? Should we make take a guess at it? Sure you go for. sparky Anderson I'm GONNA say two, thousand and. Ten. Correct Wasn't really. Yeah. Doesn't that I knew I was in the room. Like me that's. Got It. Within. A decade right got it two thousand. That long ago seem. Like fourteen or thirteen say. dived. SPARKY got one right? Right George Carlin Basil. So yes he's going to be employed. And you know what? I'd Love Can Boston higher or would that be kind of weird I don't need them they suck. I know AJ bottom out the wrath picks at this point. Could you imagine after what happened to see Cora? Don't that Sparky Anderson? Think core would manage this year. Both of them are going to manage this year I would think so she'll be first in man then he'll be at Some of those good steakhouses right there in Chicago. Sakes. You'll be getting Lou Malnati's pizza and then beef before you know it right there. Let's go. Let's go. There you go. Would not Malnati's what's my other one that I like sex? You like dear Dan. You're Donald. So you go. All right. What you got MC were through would five weeks of the season. Not ever teams played five games but who is the most overrated team in the NFL for the first five? We're almost we have a game today by the way CIGS bears. One of them all that's wonderful in one but their. Greatest Foreign. One team, right. Their offense concerns me a little bit louder. I'm GonNa tell you to, and I know people are not going to like this. Going by the preseason hype, the saints are still overrated. I'm just telling you they are not. Good I know they won last night and they're good and breeze out to throw almost fifty times and that's hard for me because I am a saints Fan. I am. Well I like to say Yeah I'm a raiders fan through and through they're not overrated there properly rated which means up and down week to week we never know we're going to get with the saints the preseason. Every far away they're the best team in the NFC everybody else's in a chase mode they're not the best team in the NFC I take Green Bay and Seattle Seattle over them in New Orleans in the playoffs right now, both of those teams. So New Orleans good day are considering what I see. There've been over twelve rates. Somebody's going to squeeze them and you're not gonNA be able to get vertical get beat in a in a game. I'm just telling you when it matters I'll say them in the bears are not the bears offense is not a Foreign Office thank goodness for act. Thank goodness for their. This facts in you and I both know it. The. Bear it because you hated cutty love cutting and especially smokes breads I love cutty it's I. Don't think Seattle's overrated. I. Don't think Green Bay's overrated I. Don't think Buffalo's overrated. I'm not sure the rams are as good as their record. Let's put it that way. I. Don't I don't know, but they just keep hammering team. So maybe they are they got the what the niners on Sunday night football this week and going into the season, we would set all forty niner shaver. It's no doubt. Now with all these injuries, the rams are clearly a better team right now I think the other team we have to throw in there is the cowboys. I know the Dak injury sucks but not overrated there properly rated right nobody thinks good. Yeah. But I mean. If we're GONNA, talk about the saints coming into the season. Everybody had the hype buddy had the cowboys is a lockdown playoff favorite that could advance far I'll bet you. Advance anywhere they suck and if they do advance, they're going to get beat early I'll tell you this. I'll bet you the cowboys win the division with Anthony. Dauntless quarterback nine me and you and NC ourselves three. To six win the NFC east. Yeah. Yeah. It's not exactly a reach by saying the cowboys are GonNa win it with Dalton Buddy smart pickup this off season to get a veteran as to the plows Oh. Yeah. For sure doubt that division is worse than that division, the NFC West when the what? The seahawks one, seven and nine again beat by the saints and got beat by the saints on the road. Yeah. Because they got the host the game because they won the division saints for the Wildcard. Saints. This division could have three like top seven picks divisions of frigging joke it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. Don't know who's going to play quarterback in Washington over the course of it, the giants just aren't any good. So we all the Philadelphia Eagles are worse than the Dow Jones in a bad time ten, the Dallas cowboys lost their best football or their their their quarterback. Now they're gonNA scramble around and they're GONNA have to score thirty a week kind of like this team. If you don't score thirty a week, you got no shot here. Do you know that if both the giants and jets go Owen Sixteen? The giants would get the number one pick in in the way things would turn out most likely but I got news for Dave Gettleman Deidre he. Both of them are going to draft Trevor Lawrence if it happens and they both got. About Four years three years one two years ago. The other three years. Be Such a jets thing though you go. Oh, and sixteen get still can't get the first pick well. And then to lose it to your cross down even shares a stadium with you. Yeah, that would be seen. Not. The same thing as saying added the Fisher House the Fisher House I know is a huge part of recovery for somebody like my husband for them to know that their family members are being taken care of that's a huge burden off of them. So they can concentrate on their therapies just having that assurance that no matter what is long as we were there for Anson, that someone would be there to take care of us. Took so much weight off our shoulders out. Can you help Goodra Fisherhouse? Dot Org.

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Local Hour: Trader Jack Part 1

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

00:00 sec | 4 months ago

Local Hour: Trader Jack Part 1

"So Garcia if you're like me, you love a good stat, but there's one stat. You probably don't know your vehicle's battery charge. That's why advance auto parts has free vehicle, battery, testing and installation with no appointment needed. Battery sorted just seventy ninety nine. They also have curbside pickup on any order. Enter the Code Dan Twenty. When you buy online to save twenty percent on your order, adventure auto at advance, auto parts and participating carquest locations. See Store for details. This is one of the last episodes of the David Samson local hour where he's got a full beard. I scared you a little bit. David Samson's beard has been growing since the suspension of play since pandemic started, and he vowed to shave at one, we got baseball back, and after all of that after all the dragging through the mud that we did with rob Manfred. Name and Tony Clark's name. Baseball is the first major sport in the United States and it's going to be back. That is the hope I'm hoping that around July. Twenty fourth I can shave this beard. I cannot believe the discomfort and the people who have beers like this I have such respect for Z top and people who their beards their thing. It's a fulltime job dealing with the entire situation and I only hope that we get to opening day, but nothing happened this week Mike that gives me any further actual mental intelligent reasoning that opening day will happen on schedule. I'm still concern I'll believe it when I say it four in the road. Do I take the natural transition or do I go back to beardless back to for a second because when I grew my beard out super long. My my skin was in bad shape underneath that beard lots of breakouts, ingrown hair situation or you worried what lies beneath? So it's definitely occurred to me, and I'm going to have hugo take care of it. The MARLINS BARBER WHO I've known since the beginning of time and I recognize that I'm on the air plenty, so will I need more makeup? Will it be different makeup? What's going to happen because I'm very sensitive about my skin I never touch my face, but I've been touching my face all day every day with his beard because you just play with it. It you roll it, you touch it, and it's so course an awful and I think it'll be also good look from a just aesthetic standpoint. My face is GONNA look way smaller and thinner, so this may be a thing that I should do once a year for one hundred fifty days i. get any raising money. It's going to a good cause. Have you realized that the parts underneath your mustache? Get Dry. You dealing with skin tation at all. So I have not I have gotten all sorts of product that I never had I am the perfect guy right put the fishermen my mouth, and if you tell me, this is a beard softener, put this oil and all of a sudden. This'll happen. You can make your hair feel better. You can get. You can find your lips again meanwhile. I've tried it all I. don't. Don't get any of it. I voided the just for men so I've got the gray in various places I'm just letting it Rep. what has occurred to me is if there is no opening day, and we have to wait another year I really have no plan in mind for how I would handle that so I'm not thinking about it. You gotta go captain Lou Albano. Albano just have rubber bands, and and just tied up tight around your neck all right. Let's get into what you mentioned. Fear that even though there's all this talk and all this positive momentum towards the season. It's still may not happen obviously very unsettling time here in the state of Florida. If I if I want to travel to the northeast need isolate for fourteen days cases. Cases are worse than ever. In terms of positive results yet MLB's plan is to pay their players pennies on the dollar, and not do this bubble situation like the other leagues actually travel hop on a plane, which just the notion that during a global pandemic, especially as bad as it is in this country right now is a key. That's the best word that I could. Use a describe it right now and traveled to these other teams sadie. They are doing something in a way of trying to limit the actual travel with their early plan, and their divisions for the uninitiated. What exactly is MLB's plan in terms of travel? Let's talk about what he just said. Because it's been such great PR FOR MLB TO SAY WE'RE GONNA have a regional travel schedule, so let's talk about what it means to travel when you're a major league baseball team, because it's much different than when you're just ordinary going to the airport, so you get on a team bus at your home park after a game. So I guess the bus will have to be clean perfectly. Maybe MLB will insist that the buses aren't used by anyone other than baseball players, but still they're different teams. The way it works is every team comes to Florida. They're using the same bus company. The same driver, the same actual buses, so let's say you wipe down every seed. You totally clean it and everything's great. You bring on your team. There's no. No six feet apart. So what you're saying is you have to then get extra buses, so that's an extra expense that all that all the teams are going to have so let's say you have the buses at half capacity. At best you get to the airport then you have tsa you must get screened. There is what's called, believe it or not. It's random screening of baseball players or traveling staff the traveling secretary. Comes to you on the team bus and says it's your turn you Samson up, and I always said No. No, no on the president. Team I will not stop for Tsa, and he would say to me are I, will try to stop it as often as we can, but every once in a while your name comes up. It's randomly selected screening. So then you're within six inches of TSA person and they are wanting new. They're checking your shoes that are going through your bag etcetera. Let's pretend they don't even do that and you get right on. On the plane, then you get on a plane, which by definition is your own plane? But it's still a plane that is in service when it's not the team playing, so it's not that the marlins owned a Delta plane, and I can't think of a team who owns its own plane, so there are other people because once it drops you off in Atlanta. Then the same Delta plane picks up actual normal passengers that go somewhere else so let's pretend they clean the plane perfectly now. We're going to tell the players on the plane wear masks. And don't play cards. Stay six feet apart. While the way our Delta planes are situated in the way. The seats are no one six feet apart because there are so few seats so while you are alone in a row, you're within six feet. Then you get off the plane Mike, you get into another bus in another city. Then you check into a hotel where you have to be with? Porter's, check, in people. What are we doing this is. Just hearing you talk about all these levels makes me really think that this is impossible. Given how bad it is right now. I don't want to jinx. What's going on in this studio? But given the positive test results. It makes me wonder okay. I'm Colby and in the studio. Why are we here for the last three months? If we're just going to get back to go, and the positive tests are going to be worse than ever and I don't know if you saw mayor he meant is as Andy Slater. which is another topic I know it's a it's. It's a name that makes you perk up a little bit not so bad not so much as Derek. JETER apparently, but it makes you perk-up. Andy reported and I don't know how how much earlier he spoke to him, because it seemed like really tone deaf. Mary humanising he'd allow fans into Marlin stadium as long as Marlins provided a plan in place that they could prove that you could socially distance, which enacted stadium totally cool. Let's just ignore the fact that no one in their right mind should be going to a baseball game, although no one is in the right mind apparently in Miami. There is no way major league. Baseball can let that happen, right? So. This is going to be something, Mikey. Telling you now if there are states and cities. which are stupid enough to fans to congregate in a game game? Baseball's going to allow it because baseball needs revenue. That is the entire problem. But David. How much revenue are they getting? They're going to be capped at one thousand people. How do you know what the rules are in Texas? They were told they can fill fifty percent of their new ballpark. This is already I. Don't know what you mean. It's millions and millions of dollars this. There's no way I if I'm the players Union I got a step in because. Are they getting a slice of that revenue. Are they getting a slice of that gate or some people checking their morals at the door, and just like let it ride. Well. Here's the fact when owners make more money or cut their losses, there'll be more money for free agency, and for players in the two thousand twenty one season. The money does trickle down no matter what players complain about every year while there is no actual revenue sharing deal with players where it's a set percentage the way it is in the NFL of the NBA. The reality is every one of my eighteen years it was between forty eight and fifty two percent of revenue goes to players so the more revenue, the better now football announced in this was brilliant made me laugh. They're going to keep the first six to ten rows. Down by the field empty after that it's all gonna work out fine, and I'm laughing. Because that's not exactly how it works in terms of the spread of disease, so what plan will teams have to do? I've been racking my brain as an operations person, so concession stands no lines on concessions. We put down stickers of where you stand six feet like your walgreens or We would have packaged food, so there's no people actually cooking the food in front of you. You'd have a hot dog that comes with you. Know a gone, and you have a packet of Ketchup. No condiments stands of any kind, no hawkers, going up and down the aisle at any stadium. We're not doing any of that. The beers already free drafted. You can just go grab a beer and pay with your phone. No cash whatsoever. Making sure that all fans are in their own groups, who they bought tickets with and having timed entrances and exits in an out of the park. Now those could be rules that mayor men as would say sounds good to me. Let's bring it, but if you think he doesn't have an ulterior motive, then you're not paying attention to the politics of south Florida, every single politician in this community mayor Jimenez Governor, Disentis and I'm not a pining about being on the right or left side I'm saying they've got an agenda and that was just another step of this agenda. Seems nudge us. I feel hopeless. It feels like all the hard work that we did. We shut down our lives for months on end. And to throw it all away and to be so brazen with that. It's just so tone deaf. Can we take a beat, can we? Can we take a minute? God this is this is really bad, we. Just feels like where we are after a few months. It really feels like to me. We're at edit mode at this point and just say well hospitalizations are it's it's mutating. It's a it's a weaker form and. Our our economy just can't take this. It seems as though people are making that conscious decision, and it just seems a little barbaric. David well, but those aren't the facts right, so Houston is an example what what we're being told is we have more positive cases because there's more testing, so of course we do, but our percentage of of rates of of positive rates has gone up, but also hospitalizations are going up and that's the real number to look at Houston announced that they're. They're practically capacity in their intensive care units. Now I understand the other side and this is something I'm digging into our nothing personal today actually for a long long segment, which is maybe what we've decided as a community and as a country is that covert is here until there's a vaccine, we cannot go into economic shutdown until there's a vaccine, so we have to be prepared for positive tests, and we have to be prepared for what could argue is natural selection which is. Is People making decisions, and then bearing the consequences of those decisions, the problem is the decisions that other people are making are impacting me and my life choices because it fifty two years old I have no great interest in having covid nineteen, because while I have no underlying conditions I'm perfectly healthy I can go run twenty miles right now and be back and do a show in a few hours. I don't WanNa. Get it so therefore I'm stuck here with Wilson with no. No end in sight, it's I'm a little concerned, too. Because part of this plan will be I'm sure the MARLINS will say they'll be some sort of onsite testing for people coming in, but testing, you can play so fast and loose with that definition wwe they've had an outbreak at their performance center over the last twenty four hours over two dozen, positive tests, talent, and behind the scenes. Apparently, they think testing is just scanning someone's forehead and seeing if there temperatures. Will Continue to testing. They weren't doing cova testing. They were just taking your temperature. We as a society have no no real grasp of what it means to be a symptomatic. You mentioned like more tests well in the state of Florida. No one's really getting outside of professional athletes. No one's really getting test if they're a symptom attic. No, why would you right so the people that are great, so the people that are getting tested feel compelled because they're having symptoms. That should be terrifying. The funny part is it should be only the a symptomatic who get tested because once you feel like crap. Just assume you have it and stay in, so you just WanNa, be confirmed, people are people accused at one and i. have the antibodies because then I can do anything I want well. We don't even know about that and one thing about the temperature checked. You're not giving WWF credit. I bet you that they were giving forms to everyone. And the questions on the forms were. How do you feel? Have you been in contact with anyone who's tested positive for covid nineteen? It's like a joke. I feel great. Of course you feel great, because you may be symptomatic, but someone you give it to may not be, and that's the part of the equation that people seem to be missing book I. I've seen this on twitter. And whether you want to get into the sides of South Korea relative to the United States I read that over the last four days. New, positive cases in the state of Florida have eclipsed the last four months of new positive cases. Where in South Korea, they have an advanced tracing system. And it just seems as though we're. This is why people hate our country. This is just we're just so stubborn and so selfish we we've turned a mask during global pandemic into a political issue, and we're taking notes directly from the top as to how to behave whether it's wearing a mask when you visit factory and just or political ad depicting someone wearing a mask as week it is, it is depressing. We don't deserve sports to come back in this country. They're testing plenty over in Europe. That's part of the deal. They're testing those players. Day and there's a handful of positive tests every week over in Europe from the athletes that are getting tested every day, and you see an ACC weight room. Do that. Do those numbers tenfold in a week? We don't deserve sports. What I think is going to happen is that the sports leagues have decided that the juice is worth the squeeze to restart? However they can and keep going, and what the real question we should be asking is what is it? GonNa take for the NBA to say wow, the bubble in Florida just isn't morally right, but it really is still financially right. When is the inflection point? When the morals overtake the finances, and as guy's been around in the business of sports for eighteen years I don't think that point. Anymore for these leagues, which is why? I think sports will come back and guess what we're GONNA. Talk about it on our show. You're going to talk about it on your show. When the game start and that is the reality, people are going to bet on the Games people are GonNa Watch the Games, and if fans are allowed, there are some fans who are GonNa go to the Games. That's the reality of our country, and that's what makes both the greatest country in the world, but there's consequences that come with the level of freedom that people are expressing in want. Europe as an example, if you WANNA, go see your team. There is a likely chance that come July first. There will be a ruling from the European. Union that people from America cannot go to Ura. Think about that, it's unbelievable to me. We're the land of the free yet. WE'RE GONNA end up within our borders and not being able to leave. It's I I've had for several months I've cancelled so many trips and music festivals have been canceled, and I still have a trip that I planned for my friends fortieth birthday, in Mexico at the end of July, and I'm like there is no way that trip is happening just because I. Don't think Mexico's GonNa. Let me in. It's it's not it's not just that. But how are you getting there? I got to hop on a plane. It's just I'm not doing it I'm not doing it, but now my options are dwindling I for vacation I'm just going to have to go outside. Well you could go to. The national parks are open, and they're outdoors and in the US. If you've never been to Yosemite or you're unfamiliar with the the news at Yosemite, I'm not I'm not going over there with my luck. I'll go over there and that volcano will finally erupt. Well by the way, don't you just tip your cap at that point like if you have a trip that you could national park just eight Ellie roughs, and that's right. You're JOE versus the volcano. That's it. Have you ever been in Napoli? now it's at the base of Mount Vesuvius I think which is like long overdue to erupt. They didn't like my time enables because it's like man, everything here looks really old and I think just everyone in the cities like yeah, this is probably going to be destroyed. Why are we going to put money in a new construction? Just sort of enjoy it for it is, and at some point it'll be gone. And I was just so worried because they were like the tour guides like this erupt at any moment, and it's like forty years overdue. That's very unsettling and now. Thing is what about in California with the faults and with an earthquake with the separation of California do that fault. That's going to happen one of these days, but is that how you gonna live your life. That's the whole question. Are you going to do walk in new? York, city, thinking wow piece of scaffoldings, follow my head and I'm going to die no. Because it can happen, don't well now I am now am I. Avoid like the manhole covers, and the the subway vents just because. I've read about people falling through those things and just now another thing to be worried about. Did you see this viral video from Mexico? How everyone's chill? During seven point? Seven magnitude earthquake? People are just walking over this point in the earth that is opening. You could fall in that I. don't I don't understand it. I promise trader Jack Stories this episode, but there's one more thing. I wanted to discuss business related I'm a huge soccer fan as you know. It was reported that CBS had negotiated the rights to the for champions for those that don't know the champions. League takes the best three or four teams, sometimes depending on how the country the best team from your country, and put them all in a World Cup, style tournament, and you Crown Club champion of Europe. It's it's huge. It's most prestigious tournament in terms of professional. Club sports that there is it. It's great to get these rights Turner got a couple of years ago and all the good work that had been happening in this. This country in terms of positive momentum and in the game seems to be thrown out the window because they've just done a terrible job with the product so terrible in fact that they have decided to end their agreement a year early CBS was supposed to get it a year from now now there is a lame duck year. Where presumably I guess it goes to CBS, but anybody can bid on this one year before it goes to CBS properly. You work for CBS. What exactly is the strategy in getting rights because I've always been fascinating fascinated by launching a sports network? Fox, it's been. Widely reported their ups and downs, they've just been cutting a lot of staff and a lot of original programming at an ad network CBS seems to be building at a time where other companies are scaling back. Is it smart in this in this climate to build up? A content play so as you very well, know from what you do for a living and what I do for a living. It's all about content and it's dvr proof. Live content that will never go into a recession. Will Right's fees at any point plateau? The answer is no because what audiences crave. What advertisers crave while there is a bump in the road in advertising revenue at the moment, companies will continue to market even if they have to adjust what their businesses. What their goods that they're selling. They have to spend money marketing and bind advertising for a company like CBS. They're in a perfect position for this lame duck year because they don't have to offer the same amount annually that they're paying starting next year. Because there's no competition, there's no network that would by a single year because you can't build that brand, you can't do anything. Anything with you can't monetize it. It becomes an expense that you really won't be able to recoup. And that's what you do over a long term deal, which is why networks tried to get as long term as possible for the most part in league. Try to go shorter because they're hoping to get higher and better deals so I would look for CBS to pick up lame duck year at a at a reduced price, because if I'm CBS, I'm saying listen. We're ready to start a year from now. If you WANNA, go a year dark I wouldn't but I'm not going to give you one hundred cents on the dollar. But in a year, which sports rights are not guaranteed, you may WanNa lock up. Look I. I woke up and Korean baseball all my television. You May WanNa. Lock up elite that you actually feel might actually broadcast, but the counter argument is if I'M ESPN or another company. Why would I spend a year developing an audience and honestly? Bringing the level of production up a few notches, because turnage is did again dreadfully with this product. Why would I build up that audience? Just the leave me and go somewhere else in a year where you wouldn't in by the way you talk about. The Korean Baseball Organization and why that's happening. ESPN had a show something. They responsibility to show events so I was going to. Do you know we joked about that? I like playing with marbles and marble toys, and there could be marble races, and all sorts of fun stuff. Those counters events, so I don't believe there's been any equity built up in the K. K B O whatsoever I have not seen any indication that people are now buying shirts from teams in the K b. o there was interest in the beginning, and it disappeared to me. It was a lot like the network and I don't remember which network may be an ESPN. Who did the Horse Game The NBA Horse game with players disaster. People aren't. Aren't interested in that. They're gonNA. Wait, they're. GonNa go elsewhere. They're gonNA. Do original content which is movies or TV shows then when sports comes back sports, they love. They're gonNA start watching again as soon as it's back life, so you would align yourself with the the P, the school of thought that says the K B O is just because ESPN IS A. A live sports programming network and they have made that promise to their distributors right and if you're not showing live sports, you might potentially be in breach so just let secure right so we can air some live sports, so we're not susceptible to that acusations. You asked me a train of thought. I'm not sure I follow your question. Would you subscribe lot? That's what it is. It's just is like I don't know. I. Don't even understand what you're saying because. Yeah it's it's a theory. I haven't seen someone just flatly report ESPN is only showing Korean baseball, because they are pitched as a live sports network, and if they don't have live sports, they could be held in breach of their contracts with all these distributors and providers. So that's like saying that we do not announce every day with the Marlins that we will have twenty five players in uniform. We don't announce that every day we do. We don't announce it, and that's rule. If we don't were in breach were in violation. We don't announce every year. Hey, we have another baseball stadium to play, and that's a rule that if we don't have a baseball stadium that we can't have a franchise on, announce it, I wouldn't expect ESPN or any network to announce by the way we don't want to be in breach of contract, so we're showing up but I. I think it's fairly obvious when you look at how that came together. Exactly what happens? David Samson wholesome, nothing personal. He'll make you feel like an idiot for asking a question that you haven't heard as anywhere old on Mikey that is unfair. I am merely trying to tell you that I don't believe. There are two sides that thought I'm not you're you're the furthest thing from an idiot so that one I? Don't accept. No, it's fine, it's just it's a conversation that I just haven't heard that like. A Dan alluded to at once on the national show, and I was like Oh, yeah! Showing K B O because we're interested in curry in baseball where we think it's a rating, this is because we. We have agreements with providers. This is just like Oh. My God we need live sports, rights, or we'RE GONNA lose out on these contracts that we've agreed to take a look at all. The sports networks in what they're showing. They're showing classic games. They're showing the top five games twenty four hours of this game, six of two thousand and And when this happened, this is not because they're in the mood to do it this because they have a responsibility to have programming on their channels. This is not unique to ESPN, David I might be putting you in an awkward position here, but as a huge soccer fan, I was tremendously letdown. Once again, let it be known Turner in an awful job with its Champions League and a lot of my friends and I in group chats are like. How are we to believe that CBS is going to be any different that this is just get people in the tent will will take the the world feed. We won't invest in this, and it'll be a let down compared to what it was even years ago. It seems like a backward step for the development of a game that I. Truly love and want to grow in this country is CBS going to treat this differently. Just from your inner workings of over at at CBS. Your knowledge of it then turned it. Yeah for me. It's about investment and CBS what they do and you've seen it with the NFL. They make investments in their products, and whether it's investing something as low on the totem pole as you know, live talk shows versus going all the way up to major sports, fees and right's fees I think it would not behoove the new Viacom CBS. They just combined and they've had some layoffs which. which is normal when you have a company? That's that's that's merging and especially with what's happening in the economy with advertising dollars, not coming in the way they were when you've got a new property like this. It is not good business not to invest in it so when you say. Turner, did a bad job. The only thing I would say is they didn't plan on doing a bad job. That's like when people say the people got people got divorced while you must not have been interested like with Montreal. You must have gone into the expos knowing you're leaving now you go in hoping for the best, but sometimes the worst happens I. Don't think Turner got the rights instead. Let's try to absolutely ruin this for Turner. I don't think that would be smart and they're. They're not stupid. They're and I think CBS will do the same does a guarantee success. Listen CBS ON CBS SPORTS HQ? They do a lot of soccer they they are showing a lot of football. They actually call it football in. That's what it is sufficient. Embrace soccer. That's a distinctly American. There's only like three places on earth that call it soccer. We should lean into it. See. We just talked about the beginning of the show that America should stop leaning so much into everything American I actually like it when they call it football, because that's where it's called you by the way on this show. Minutes ago. You said Napa Valley Yeah. That's okay. Look. I. Call it football a lot, too, but I always hate when people correct no call it football, no call it soccer just. Stain that CBS. The point of this is that CBS is leaning into it, not the fact that was correcting you. Say. All Right? Let's get to trader jags stories because. Last week's episode end with a Bang, it ended with Jeff Tour tour Borgomeo Skilling you or at least the threatening to kill you. What were the ramifications of that altercation with Jeff Tour Board? The clock was ticking after that I imagine yeah. That was the end of him so when he did that and I don't know how you market it or or In the episode, he didn't punch me. He did not hit me he. Lunged and went after me and was stopped. What you said you had to pull apart pulled apart. We didn't position. Well. I wasn't gonNA. Leave me I five five thirty. Pull me apart from nobody. Never go after anybody that would be insanity, so no, it's he was. Going toward me and what stopped so tour board is going to be done. There's no doubt about it. We're underperforming and Jeffrey. Came to us and said you know I. WanNa. Make a change and I need some names. and. We said well. You know it's mid season. It's hard to get a good list together we go to the usually would call them the usual retreads, which is a horrible thing to say, but that's how we would say in. That's out racist. It had nothing to do with color or age. It was just people who had been the game and who had been fired and they're available, because they're not a coach and they're not managing another team Jack mckeon would fall under that. One hundred percents one hundred percent, so bill back was traveling secretary. Jack McCain is not someone even thought, of I hadn't really hadn't been in my mind. Because my whole career in baseball. At that time, this was had had been in for four years I just hadn't thought about him. Bill Beck was traveling. Secretary, who had worked with Jack was a friend of Jack's and. He basically approached Jeffrey. and said. You know what about Jack mckeon in Jefferson I don't you know I'd be happy to talk to him? So Jack mckeon flew to Florida and met with Jeffrey and Larry. Bind fests at a place called the Rascal House, which is now out of business. It was a deli on. Miami beach. And JACKO's and I said Jeffrey do want me at this launch. He said absolutely not. There's no reason for it. I'm just GONNA say hi to him and I WANNA do this favor for bill because it's the right thing to do. Because he loved bill back, the traveling secretary. Let's hit pause. Who are the internal internal leaders in terms of replacement tour board at this time? So, Jack McCain was pretty early in the process so I. Do not recall that we had gotten him. We had put a list together of names and I. Don't have it in my head at all, because it literally is a blank, but this is all going on when I say how this process goes. This isn't a month long process. This is a week long process that's how quickly Jack McCain to get on a plane immediately get to the rascal, house and Jackie Keane was this strangely interesting old man at the time and Jeffrey was a strangely interesting old man. Right and I don't mean that Jeffries old and he wasn't Jack, mckeon old. Well. Estedat what so Jack, mckeon is I think he's eighty eight eighty nine right now, and Jeffrey is eighty seven eighty. Yeah. He's turning eighty this year. Jeffrey looks a lot better than Jack. mckeon veras age. So it's there's there's there's. Hard living for all Jack. House Jack mckeon. It's hard to believe that you guys met at a Deli. Oh, it's absolutely by the way a Jewish Deli with Jeffrey and Larry and Jack mckeon Jack. mckeon comes in, and he had not been properly prepped for the meeting. He thought the name of the owner was Jerry Loria. So he called Jerry Normally, if it weren't someone who was like Jack, Jeffrey would have, said meeting oversee later but Jeffrey just sort of laughed with it, and was okay with it and left the meeting called me and said you know what what do we have to lose? We could bring Jack in for the rest of the season. We don't have to give them a long term deal because he. He may not have a long-term. Let's just see what happens, and that's that, so we call up Jack and it's not like he had an agent. He was the opposite of Jeff Tour. In terms of demands, the opposite of Felipe blue in terms of demands McCain was just so happy to have a chance to come back and manage. He said Yeah. I'll be there tomorrow. So we signed him to a very very cheap contract. We offer him an incentive that if he wins. You Know Jeffrey Obama car I mean just set just absolute. It was like a throwaway higher. That's the reality of Jackson was a car. was like a total throwaway higher just come on in. We gotta get rid of Tour Board and frankly he's not going to do any damage. He can't be worse than what we had, so he comes in. Normal managers when they're interviewing. Because we interviewed twenty of them, they come in with a plan. They have a binder. They've studied the system. They know the players they know everything Jack mckeon did not know one player on our team. He didn't have one idea one plan. He was this crusty grumpy guy who was like just God. Damnit, go play like that's what he does. So he comes in on a Sunday that's his first game. He introduces himself some players. We talked to him about what the lineup should be because he really did not have an idea of what the lineup should be. He had no idea what you're was. Not No, but why would eat right? No one knew who I roster was. He's like yeah. We'll have pudge catch for sure, and so we're going through what the lineup is and he didn't know the players names. He didn't know the front office names eat no anything, but no. The owner's name is focus was. An I you have to understand fast forward. Seventeen years later I still talk to Jack Jack is one of my mentors. I Love Jack Jack gave him my nickname sparky so I'm just telling you how nickname because he didn't know your name. By the way that is possible, but that came later on in this season when he thought it was the spark plug of the organization, so his big thing I. Hate to shatter the reason why you think you have that nickname. It is one hundred percent because you were smaller had energy and he didn't what your name was. Ninety eight to. Get over your sparky. It's because you're sparkplug. Whatever you want to hear now. I never actually thought of that and I. Think you're totally right and I need to end the interview now. This, show's over because. Playing I will just got shattered. What was his plan? Had P. L. G. on it. As in sparked like the name of my current company is sparky's plug. US Snow Your name. That's all. It's. More Jack. Mickey and stories next week with David Simpson. We just scratched the surface this. The number one story. The number one will will teased for next week. I'm teasing it because I'm hanging up on you, I'm furious. I'm calling Jack Right now. Actually see a sporty.

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Local Hour: Troubles With Bubbles

"David Samson us for the local hour. David I. Guess I have to talk about this with you. I'm about to go on vacation for. Four out of the next five weeks I'd like to continue doing these, but would you be all right with occasionally doing one with Chris Cody and Billy Gill for for example. If you want me to do that, then, of course, be happy to do it. They would have to actually talk to me. Though how would that work? I think they've talked to. You. I've done a local hour with you. It's just I know. Billy can challenge you in ways. That I can't because he probably knows more about the recent years I think. I'm holding my own. When it comes to the early two thousands, mid-2000s that this whole podcast is about challenging you because I think we have interesting conversations like we can have with major league baseball and what Buster Olney? Said earlier this week. I thought that was interesting. I'd like to talk to you about that, but there's also stuff in regards to some of the some of the moves in the ED, two thousand teens that. They'd be able to push you on a little bit, and just you know. Make sure the audience isn't get bored. Give them a little bit of different look. I think I think I'm now for that idea. I'm all for it. Just name the day in the place in you know talk to any of your crew I love. All right so you're the host of nothing personal with David Samson last week. We didn't get review from you because your whole world came crashing to a halt because you found out that sparky was not because you were a bit of a spark plug, but because Jack Mickey and simply did not know your name. Did you confirm my theory so I wanted to get Jack on the show with us this week on I and I and I think that. that. We can do it for next week and into. Tell you that you would only believe that because he told you so I. Tell You why. I was called sparky you by definition. Don't believe me because that is sort of your default position. It's like when you reset morning. You wake up and say wait a minute. I've gotTa make sure that I challenged Sampson and make sure he realizes that every principle that he believes in is completely wrong. So I could bring on Jack Mickey Candidate Cave Person David That's how I wake up every morning just how I wake up on Thursday mornings. I WANNA believe. I'm in your thoughts seven days a week. We've gotten a lot of positive feedback so I see Samson in my mentions. At least once a day every day. Jack mckeon, joining us on zoom seems like it would be an adventure. David I. Don't know how how that would work. We would have to set it up that we would start in that. We'd have to have someone assigned to him. For technology purposes, it would require a step by step process. There's no doubt about that. If you've been on zoom meeting during this quarantine by the way where it's supposed to start certain time, and it requires an extra twenty minutes just for logistical purposes for people who can't figure out how to use it. Yeah I've been on that. It's a it was earlier on as with people of a certain age I've never been on his own with someone as old as Jack mckeon and just given what you told us about Jack. mckeon last week I'm not even sure it's an age. Thing with old old trader Jack, I'm very curious to see if he can even get into zoom, you know one of my greatest regrets about having Jeffrey having sold. The team is that we had made a promise to Jack that he was going to be the oldest manager in the history of baseball to ever manage a game. We were going to bring him back to manage and we had spoken to mattingly about it and everything was all done that we were going to bring him back to manage day and. When I was, let go, and the team was sold. Unfortunately Jack, was them. Let go, which is obviously. It still bothers me in terms of Andre. Dawson twenty, Peres, Jeffco, nine and Jack mckeon really had nothing to do with Laureus Samson. They were just icons of the Organization and the Way Derek Candle that he was new, so I give them a pass. He just didn't have any advisors. Advisors all in the in the ones who are telling him not to do it. He didn't. WanNa listen to because he thought they agenda, but the reality is that losing Jack Still Hurts Jack because his heart in his love is in south Florida in. He won't come back now. He will not come back and he's now at the nationals and it's. It's just disappointing because he's kept himself. HIMSELF IN SHAPE. He still is in shape and it would not have been gimmick. It's something that meant something to him. And if he's able to do it, which he was, it would've worked in. Jeeter just wouldn't do it in that. That's on the stuff that jeeter's done. That is the one thing believe it or not, that that truly the other stuff is just fun to talk about. About homerun sculpture and all the other craziness, but this one was just such a lack of understanding of of the of our franchise. Let's stay here a little bit. This is the famous firing of the luminaries discussion that we've had on the show Tony Perez Andre Dawson. Jeff Conan I. Think you're in charge of informing these marlins luminaries that they were being let go. That was shitty. It's not that it was that it was that I understood that that's what Derek asked me to do. And that's when I was still president team and I explained to them that. Changes were coming and I tried to explain to Derek what they meant to the organization and I understood though that Derek wanted to bring in his own assistance like George Facades and and the people brought in were his guys, but explained to him. It's like when we got to Florida when John. Henry sold teen. Andrei and Tony were ready working for the tea and it wasn't even thought that we would get now. I understand when we went. Went through the budget and we said. Are there any places we could cut it or any things we WANNA do? You wouldn't even look to dos. Twenty press. These are hall of fame players at the time. Andre was not in the hall of Fame Tony was, but these are icons, and you find room for them, because you want their presence in with your players want their presence in the community, and for whatever reason. Derek wasn't interested in. In that and what he did was once I. Let them Go. There was such a backlash. He actually then tried to reverse course and bring them all back, and he just would not engage with them wouldn't talk to them. And he offered them a quarter of their already small salaries and told them they weren't allowed in the clubhouse. They weren't allowed to be in uniform during spring training during games all the things that they had been you. You Stu and frankly that was their strength was to have them to mentor young players, and it just showed me that the Derek was GonNa have a problem, and that's continued to this day. Actually if you think about the way, his team has gone because he has tried to be the Yankees in terms of Welby Yankees didn't have anyone is his answer always was well Reggie? Jackson doesn't get to be in uniform something like bad in. Found that to be silly just because the Yankees did something a certain way. That doesn't mean that's the way to do it. And frankly just because I did this certain way doesn't mean that's the way it's supposed to be gone, but at least come in and give its thought. Let it go a year before you go on, it's it's been hurtful to the team. There's no doubt about it. Hearing you talk about Derek. It's It always interests me because you guys made the decision to sell right you, you chose. We could have not sold the team to to Derek jeter. You knew once you sold the team. You would be ceding control to someone else and things like this would happen yet in the manner that he went about it. It seems to have stung. Not Seem so definitely stung. But how different would this have been? If it were somebody else, it wouldn't have been so that's the thing. People think it's about. Derek so to me. It's not about Derek at all I. Have No feelings about him one way or the other. It's about when someone it's what I talk about. When you own a team or the president of of team, you're holding the baton for. For the time you have the team, and then you pass the baton somebody else. That's how it goes in professional sports, and what happened with Derek is he came in, and he was so angry immediately about the price that he was forced to pay the not him that his own that his partners were forced to pay. It's funny that he just became so angry about everything that as you know, this is not me making it up. This is not me being sensitive. He went public with the fact that the previous it ownership and the previous president were or shit, and we have to do everything opposite. They have a terrible minor league system. They'd never won at the big league level. They have no fans were gonNA come in and change it all, and I ask you over after three years now. You're going to evaluate me which you have personally as president. You have to start now. There's no more he's trying to clean up your mess right I appreciate. That would be okay for year to say. He's got to clean up the mess, but now he's obsessed still with anything related to me. I mean I hear stories what he doesn't realize is that I still have many friends and contacts in the community. I'm aware always of what he's doing insane. Only because people come back to me with it, and they tell me, so he listens, and has people listen to every one of our local hours to reach every tweet every one of my nothing personal episodes, and it's like they're obsessed with it in a way that is strange in it. It's not sexual I. Don't think it's. Some sort of weird obsession with anything I do victor every a little too much credit third David. Not Sexual Trust. Me Believe me I have no bag. That was ever waiting for me once I got fired. Goodie bag hide no anything. Trust me, so it's not that. It's the I think that he wants to so badly separate himself and he thought that he would do so much better, but three years later. You know it's still marlins park there still no need new TV deal. There's still no increase in season. Tickets are still not more winning the one thing that's changed a better minor league system and people have made a mistake your Mike I want the Marlins to win. Yeah, I think it's we were. Were better city when we have winning franchises, so people who think mistakenly that I root against them is totally wrong. I want these prospects to work, and I won at one better TV deal, so they have the ability to stay financially afloat. I want this. That's your. You want baseball to work I I. Don't know why I don't think that this is. Is this a straw man because who would think that you would want I would? Okay listening to this I could get the impression why some people would say David. Samson definitely wants Derek jeter to fail I. Can I can get people saying that, but if the marlins succeed it actually boost your legacy within the community and within baseball. Because now you have a packed stadium a stadium that doesn't exist. We're not for David. Samson's negotiations and you actually get to live out your dreams as being an old man and taking grandkids to the Ballpark and saying Oh, I did. Did this so I yet. The answer's yes I. Don't think about it in that way, but now that you're mentioning that I can't wait to take a grandchild to Marlins Park I mean I haven't been back since I was shown the door and I'm not Drummond by tobacco. I could buy a ticket, but I just thought that the estranged distraction, if I went to a game although if I did I guess I would sit in the diamond club I think they renamed it. And rebuilt it, but I think it'd be funny or maybe I would just by accident. Go Up to my old sweet, and say hello and see how that would go, but I assume security would do something to stop that from happening. You could refuse cut your beer. I could walk in there. Although I mean men of a certain stature, you'd be noticeable I think they'd pick you out from that crowd especially when they're twelve people there. I well listen at the whole social distancing marlins park by the way just so you know that does not make me feel good, so when when people think that I'm rooting against the MARLINS. It's just not the case because when I see jokes about how the marlins had been social distancing since they the franchise starting none of these new rules for fans will impact the Marlins in any way. I don't take any pride in. That's right navy. The pride would be if we. We sold out every game and one every year in, and he came in, and didn't sell any tickets and didn't win. Maybe there'd be a little shopping, Freud but frankly he's getting the exact same results. I did exactly in every way. I wonder if he's going to get the benefit of the doubt much like other teams might. Because this is such a Kooky Major League baseball season now sixty games in baseball. Why even play I? Don't understand well I. Understand why they're playing. Say Yes but I mean sixty games. Season is not a representative sample in that sport, and they plan on expanding the playoffs, so you're gonNA have a champion. That's going to be random as all get out. What do you make of this plan as we know more and more about it and? Very interesting take from buster, only which gives it a zero percent chance of the season finishing, and even like a five percent chance of the season even starting. So I. Don't like when he said zero percent chance of finishing. The reason I don't is what we've learned during. This damage is speaking in superlatives. You're always wrong, so rob saying there's one hundred percent chance of baseball and then five days later did seasons in jeopardy I don't believe in one hundred percents zero percents. I think the truth is always somewhere in the middle, and the issue is what happens like with Dallas. FC It just happened? Where now it's nine players tested positive, most correct you Dallas. FC Dallas I'm sorry? Are Some teams the name in the NFC? Teams are F and then the name. Yeah, it's just you know it sounds different. I'm not sure that I'm not really sure why they're football club Dallas as opposed to Dallas Football Club. I bring hang on, let me zoom in my soccer expert real quick. Chris. Why are they FC Dallas as opposed to Dallas FC Laura a Spanish naming convention. You'd see like a clubs. In Spain, it's Fubo Clue Barcelona as opposed to the other way around and while I have you. Inter Miami's named doesn't make any sense at all right, because their inner Miami cf, but in the badge. It's like the exact opposite of that yet. If you went off of the way that it's spelled, it would be C. Inter Miami F. Clue, international, I'm sorry. See Inter eth-. Miami is actually what it would be at Miami. Davidson knows something about that slogan up. Something that you could get behind. Yeah, I mean it's a Cookie League David. They have a team that's called reality, Salt Lake I mean. I don't any case. Yeah I well. We're all learning lessons since they arrived in the bubble David. This is hugely concerning. It should be hugely concerning so this is what the sports are looking at all of these tests that happened before before spring training, or before the training part of the NBA. Let's say it's not like. The leaves are rooting for the players to be positive, but if there's ever a time to be positive, this is time because you don't want to say that you're. Bubbling Orlando has been pierced, so if people come in, they're testing posits that's okay, but what happens if before game one of the first round six Lakers test positive. When will be competitive integrity of these games be impacted in when it's impacted. What do you do about it so i? So many years ago there was a playoff series between the heat and the Knicks in there was a fight that took place when Jeff Van Gundy hung on Alonzo Mourning's leg, and there were a bunch of suspensions for game six in game seven abet series, but the series went on. It didn't have the best players playing. It was not true. Heat Knicks because of the suspension for fighting in leaving the bench. So we'll basketball do the same thing and say listen. If four of you guys test positive. It's his though they'd been suspended for a game or two or three or four games, but then you gotta play with the rest of your on roster, and that's just going to be the end of it, but what happens if there's multiple teams where that is a situation. I think that's what the lease thinking about right now. Yeah, I! Don't know what we're GONNA learn from MLS granted. They just got to the bubble. The the assumption is out there that this is something that the got in Dallas and then it started triggering. Because many ASEM thematic cases might just be. BE PRE-SYMPTOMATIC and they get to Orlando and it finally hits her system nine players, including your nine nine positive tests including your manager in soccer. That's a big deal. It's borderline. Why are we even doing this? In specific? Regards FC Dallas. Maybe they should pull out of the tournament especially since they're the only positive test inside the bubble presently, but you can survive it with a rotational squad depending on how long some of those players are. Maybe they miss a game. Get back out there and help in the NBA One player makes all the difference in the world. Depending on the player and two weeks is essentially a series in that sport in the postseason. If they have the sort of start to their bubble, BET FC Dallas. Just had any team has at or if they have double digit positive tests. Be Really curious to see what Adam silver does because he's not. I know he's desperate for the money. As all these sports leagues are, but he is considered the locust the Commissioner on sports so I wonder how he how he handles it. Remember Eight Day Mendel Leagues have said. Said fourteen days. What they've said is once. You're positive. Have to have to negative tests after twenty four hours of being positive, so that could be. We don't know that could be four days. That could be five days. There's no set time baseball did the same thing when you're on the covert list, which by the way is going to be one of the most interesting parts baseball's return because the union and owners have. have been arguing and talking about. How are we going to release names? Now they've decided no names will be released. There will just be. They won't be able to play. So imagine if you are the The Yankees in all of a sudden you have Giancarlo Stanton, and the concern is he always gets injured. Right? So you say John. Carlos Stanton has been put on the. They could say the code list that doesn't mean. mean he has cold. It could mean that he has hamstring issue, but they WANNA, only put him on for fewer than ten days, or he has a little by set in just using Giancarlos name. There is a chance for some various behavior baseball as it relates to these lists because there's NBA Angeles. There's forty five danger list and the cove. Injured list is not mean you tested positive for quoted and there's no maximum. Number of days on that list, and because of it boss, you have a chance for players to be put on that list just because they have a sore throat, and then you can rotate in some way to play because you're playing sixty games sixty three days. So how GM's owners in the League we're going to deal with all this is fascinated. You have faucher you said that he had the ultimate the ultimate faith, but he felt really good about the NBA's bubble man and thought it was as good as someone could approach this I think that it's a very ripe scenario for a an outbreak. Really but I think. Think, we'll learn some lessons with what's going on in mls right now. Per the Orlando Sentinel under MLS protocol, the entire Dallas Travel Party has been isolated at the team hotel and we'll be tested daily for fourteen days. No contact allowed with other teams and staff by the way real quick message to our podcast audience I listened to yesterday's podcast with Amino has an we just changed podcast hosting sites, and so you're hearing a little bit more mid roll a few more ads. We didn't really know that it would happen that way. So in the middle of a sentence. Essentially Amino has and would be hit with an ad. I understand it. It didn't sound good, but here's what the listening audience needs understand is I'm about to go on PTO for four of the next five weeks I promise you I will get this fixed just not today. David. We're interested by the way what if that's interested I in AD. I would hope so. It's probably going to be because lot. A lot of ADS, but I, WanNa, talk to you about specifically what you said about Derek jeter because you said he was angry with you. How does the Derek jeter shadow his anger? Did, you see a side of Derek jeter that. Many of us would be shocked to see. Oh for sure because he was very careful with his offer his plan query was teflon. Right? I mean. He was never had a scratch on it. Classrooms personified. Exactly and No, it was much different. Know during the course I've really never told stories about this. Actually I mean it was. We would have drinks together. We would have meetings because he was trying to make sure that he was the chosen group, and I would hear from him constantly and text messages and phone calls and questions. and. He would have moments where he would be very upset when he thought that was changing the rules of the bidding when I told him that. No, it's GonNa take another hundred million dollars for example. things like that would set him off in a way that I understand. I never have against him just like I never held court. Hey, moss, not hitting the number or Wayne Ross. Ross bound or any of the other people who were bidding I was never upset with anybody for what they bid and not forcing bids on people. When you're selling an asset, you're out there. Trying to get the most you can, and you're not sut when people enter exit, you basically tell them what you're going to accept them. What you're not going to I think that the thing. Thing with players in why having players Segue to ownership is so hard. You never say no to players. I'm not sure that jeter was ever told no by anyone and I would say no to him often on things that he would ask and that created tension. I would say, but as I've told you. There was never greater attention when he had to be told that he. He would be troll because that's what he wanted in. That caused permanent damage in our relationship. I would say, but that was manfred that told to dictate that I mean it was. It was fairly obvious. Someone had to relay the message. You've thought that you would be presenting a united front, and then rob Manfred quickly realized that situation quite frankly, it was probably the smarter play. Play. Considering Derek is going to be around for a while and you guys were on your way out of baseball and Rob Manfred decides to be good cop. Bad Cop, which was fine, because I've been living like that with Jeffrey forever right so I've always been the bad cop that that's just a part. I would play. It doesn't mean that's the way I am which I think. Think is part of the confusion, but I just knew I didn't have twenty three votes for Derek you twenty-three votes to be calm control person and he didn't have the twenty-three votes. I'm looking at the mets transaction the same way right I. Don't know how a rod and J.. Lo First of all people are reporting. It's so funny to me that they are going to be the. The control people of the mets. They don't people don't understand. There are not to control people of team one person, no matter what it can be a man and a woman it can be, both it can be, but it. It's one individual heartbeats is the control person of each franchise, so it's not like a rod and J.. Lo can walk into an owner's meeting and say okay. Okay votes for us. We are the control person right the way they do their tiktok. It's just funny to me and so there's just a lot of misinformation and again I'm not sure that a rod could get the twenty-three votes to be the control person for the mets and he'd have to work very hard to try to get this voice I don't think he can really. Obviously a Rod's done a boatload of work in repairing his public reputation to the point that now you're saying, you don't think he can get the votes when I mean, it's amazing that you even have to think about it. Considering where his reputation was within baseball a couple of years ago, if he has the money and considering the circumstances that were in globally pandemic, if Major, League baseball can get a team like the mets for fair market value. I don't think they'd mind selling to Alex Rodriguez. If there are no other takers. I there are several bidders in the question is will they get to the number of that that that the Wilpon want in order for that team to be sold, but the reality is that to be a control person is different than being the face of the franchise Derek. JETER is not control person of the Miami Marlins. He's face. The Miami Marlins so a rod could be the face of the mets, but he'd have to have a grew sermon behind him in the rules and baseball are that you have to have someone put in? Let's just say at least fifteen percent of the equity of the team. Team so the team is sold for two billion dollars, but there's half a billion dollars of debt. Say So. That's one and a half billion dollars equity. Someone has to put in fifteen percent of that, which is personally that have to put in two hundred twenty five million dollars. Is that possible Yeah, it's possible, but I don't think it's possible from Iran, but maybe it is. Let's talk about your owner. Jeffrey Loria and in the in the interest of being fair and balanced We've been dragging Derek jeter a little bit in this episode so I wanted to ask you about one high profile. Example it came to my mind while we were discussing the luminaries being dismissed. unceremoniously Tommy Hutton was very popular with Marlins fans, and the reports where he was. Let go because he was too critical on a marlins broadcast. What can you tell us about what happened with Tommy, Hutton? Yes so I like Tommy and he was critical, but it has never been reported, but that's not what happened at all. Yeah, it was money. It feels money. By the way Tony Hutton was not paid by the MARLINS. He was paid by Fox sports. The radio broadcasters are paid by the. Marlins Dave Van Horn Glenn you. Those two were paid by the MARLINS. It TV anchors. They're not acres. There are the broad the play by play and the analysts. They're paid by fuck. But if Jeffrey wanted. Tommy Hutton to be the play to be the color analyst Fox would have listened right. it's again. Fox decides on the Money Jeff, what we have in our deal, and what most teams have is you have a right not to be unreasonably withheld to approve who the play by play the analyst is. That's a legal term meaning that they took. Here's who we're looking at your sewer, interviewing to be the new guy like Todd Hollandsworth. How are you with todd? Hollandsworth? Look tape. We know todd from two thousand three. That sounds great, but we are not consulted in any way with what their pay would be per game for season. The number of games often number none that we do not were not in charge of so. I talked to I talked about Jeffrey Plenty, and the mistakes that he made and and the involvement he had some of which works some of which didn't work the ideas that he had a number of people resent ear I tried to explain that our owners have people outside of their organizations who are in their ear who have influenced and Jeffrey had people like that too, and it was hard for me to deal with being inside the organization. But I will say this I will stick to it. Jeffrey was a meddling owner, but there are thirty nettling owners, so there's not one team president who I met over eighteen years, who did not tell me stories of unbelievably insane things that they're owner had done in a phone call to them as president. We have to do this. You have to sign this person. You have to make sure we have this promotion. I want this star so i. think that was another misunderstanding. I think it. It doesn't take away from the difficulty in the incorrect decisions. The Jeffrey made because he did because all owners do I. WanNa Save the Trader Jack Questions for our next episode. If we can get him on zoom I know that zoom now has an option where you can call into a zoom, so maybe that's how we play it, so it'd be better to ask our Jack mckeon questions to the man himself, so we'll pause the Jack mckeon sore is one of the things that will impose. As. You're reviews for the week. David, Samson, TV show or movie. That's the role what he have this week, so I wanNA review a series. I just watched called home game on, Netflix. And home game is where they have eight thirty minute episodes about different sports that are played throughout the world that no one's ever heard of and I was fascinated by it. So one of the stories. Is about a sport where you race in Rice Paddies Buffalo's on a on eight. Literally like like you are a jockey. You are racing water buffaloes through rice paddies. It is fascinating. Another sport three diving in with with people who are fishermen by nature in their island in their little community, and how these people have no money, who this is what they do. They hold their breath for three minutes because that's how they get food. So then they their competition, where there's free diving one of them is this incredibly violent sort of game of rugby. That is so insane. Have this one. There's an episode where you ride courses like it's Polo. Except the horses are basically, the people are fighting. Chicken when you get somebody shoulder. So you've got players fighting on horses and the object is to carry a dead goat, and put it into the basket. So there's one dead goat on the field that you scoop up, and then you throw the dead goat in your goal, except all the horses and people are trying to stop you from getting the dead go into the goal I wanna say this ad hoc. RECU and we're talking in places around the world. Say, this is happening in Alabama. Out. None of these are in the united. States all these are all in faraway nations, and somehow they put a series together. I didn't think we'd be interesting, but I'm always looking for infamous for events in thinking about what people do in these sports with hundreds of years of history, sometimes thousands of years of history and to us, we're soccer, football, or basketball or baseball, these people, the majority of these people right in the world. They couldn't care less about soccer, even though soccer's global sport now at everywhere in. I. It's an interesting show. It's on Netflix. It's called home game, and it's very easy to digest in a twenty five minute episodes in I'd encourage you because exports people, it gives you an eye inside. How other people view sports I will absolutely check that out based on your recommendation. We were reaching a bit of a a dry period here on original content and new Benjamin things so I'm excited to try new show I will report back to you. I will do a cultural exchange with you right now. There is an amazing show that just made its way to Netflix. Nobody watched it because it was a direct TV. TV exclusive the show is called. Kingdom, the framework of the show is it's an Ma family, but it's really more of a family drama than it. Is this MMA spectacle though the fight scenes are actually quite well done. It's forty episodes. The entire series just made its way on the net flicks. The acting is incredible I think Jonathan Tucker is one of the actors in the show, and he should absolutely be a star based off of his performance in this series alone, so please check out kingdom not to be confused with another show called Kingdom. That apparently is annette flakes about zombies. It's not that it's an MA fighting show. How long are we Chapas? is each episode like an hour long drama. Hour long drama. This is an entire series that really no one knew existed has made its way on Netflix. So I'm really hoping that this series get some traction some good word of mouth because I think the final season Kinda felt rushed a little bit. There were more stories to tell, and I know budgetary wise direct TV wasn't really doing much in the original content game. It just felt like it was abbreviated. So maybe and I still think that there's more meat on the bone in regards to the stories that can tell so if it has a nice little comeback. Maybe we can see that show return and I want to throw out something. That's happening at the end of this week. On Disney plus Hamilton is being released. I'm so excited. So listen. Here's the math on this for people upset or concerned. They have to get Disney plus it is ten dollars a month. My view is you get a year of Disney for free by buying a ticket to go see Hamilton which everybody should see so for one hundred twenty dollars. You get to have a front row seat to by far the best show I've ever seen and the most interesting show. Show and you have to watch it more than once. Because the lyrics you're gonNa Miss Forty percents of the brilliance of the lyrics, if you, if you only see the show once and really at Disney's doing this, because during the warrenton Broadway's closed for the rest of the year, most people correctly so do not barrier to entry on Broadway so significant because of ticket prices, but now we get to see. This is not a movie. This is the actual Hamilton Broadway. Show! That was filmed with ten HD. Cameras placed different parts of theater. It is supposedly edited perfectly, so you can see the characters and see the show it not like one camera, so you only you're seeing one angle throughout the show if you don't have Disney plus get it, and if you're worried, it's too much money. Think about it. If you had a chance to buy a ticket one ticket and let your whole family see Hamilton. Hamilton and what you can learn from this musical, it is odd. I cannot wait for at for it to come out and it will be watched more than once even though I've seen it. Get the bundle because you get. Hulu and ESPN plus included I, think the the final price is like twelve, ninety nine in Hulu I had no idea. Hulu was such a great service and doesn't mean being companyman, but now that all these other sports are coming back. He spn plus not terrible, not terrible. Terrible in the least so I am so funny in so old that I didn't realize what a bundle was. So I bought them all separately and I was trying to figure out how to go back and bundle after the fact which has turned out correctly, so they made it complicated, so no one do it I'm an individual subscriber, the ESPN plus Hulu and Disney plus and then someone pointed out to me. How come you didn't get the bundle it's it's like the in in the fine print. Print on the bottom trying to figure out. Do something that would actually save. So I was thinking of canceling all three and then repurchasing bundle, but I found that to be difficult. Really Hulu I've been shocked with how great that is. Those two shows we talked about Dave and Mrs. America have made Hulu. I Pay Hulu for the whole year. Just the fact that I got those two shows. He's David Samson and like I said I'm going to be off for the next five weeks on. It's not really vacation I. Just never took time off. My daughter was born so I'm going to finally get around to do. So, but we're going to continue some of our local hours here with David Samson, and maybe Chris and Billy will mix in there again. Apologies for the local hour, and the the ads that just pop out of nowhere. We'll get better at it. Just some work and I don't have the time to do that on my last day. It's getaway day here for the Dan. Lebatardshow so David I will talk to you next week hopefully with Jack mckeon. Okay bookmark I'm going to make that happen. All right David Samson. 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Indigenous

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Indigenous

"This is Batman. Kevin J Anderson Hi. This is John Delancey and you're very lucky to be listening to Sifi. Talk, this is Terry. Good kind number. One New York Times, bestselling author of the sort of truth Jerry's. Joseph. WATCHI- Former, executive, producer and writer on strike, eight s one strike Atlantis. stargate universe presently writer on dark matter. This is David Franklin Lieutenant Sorry Canton Bracken from fast skype. I'm Robert J service. You go award winning author of Flash Forward and WWW wake i. this is Jamie Bamberg. Katie sack off. I, am Tomo, Panikin I play Hilo on the hit television series, Battle Star Galactica. And you're listening to sci-fi, talk? Seen One apple take to. The, umbilically I Dr Lock on enterprise. You're listening to the wonderful fi-fi-find. I heartily, endorse your. Listener ever, thank you. Hi, welcome to Sifi, talk always I'm Tony, tomato. We kind of do a best of tribeca film, Festival's special here today as I, look back on a film called indigenous. It's a story about American tourists who traveled Panama and have very terrifying experience with the dreaded macabre. But before you think, be moved beyond. The stories actually good and the creature itself is actually pretty good I happen to talk to the cast on the red carpet at Tribeca Film Festival in two thousand, fourteen, the thing that always appealed to me about doing these red carpets talk to new and upcoming talent, and this time I was very lucky to talk to a lot of young good Latino actors. And starting us off. One of those Latino actors is Sophia. Partners who plays? Yes now I was looking at your background. You have like an interesting mix. Yes, we're talk about. Half Moroccan on my mom's side, and for my dad's side, so it was kind of cool because. They met the way they met was such a crazy long story, but I mean is right across the Gibraltar, so it's it's really nice. And I got I got family on both sides, so I got we got house of Spain and the House and Morocco, and it's so nice to be able a huge so I was I, was born I was actually born in Fez in the south, farming super farming agrarian town, very very conservative and very very rife with culture. It's all about history and stuff, so it was nice growing up. Did you say you were a ego? Yes! That's my ancestry to really my father's from. And Young, which is right near Luego. Luego. Bakun, Ian, yes, and I have family at Santiago de Compostela. My. That's my grandmother's side of the family where I get my height. From my father, my mom is. Very Brown father is six one very white, so. Hear you so this film you know as I understand it. You guys had a little bit more room to play as far as script. It wasn't very strict so i. mean what did you try to bring to her? That maybe wasn't on the page well in the script. You know there's this. There's the stress on the relationship. He has with her boyfriend. They own a restaurant and there's all these problems because he doesn't really share the glory of the restaurant with her. Everything is his accomplishment, and his his doing, and she's kind of on the sidelines so it it was hard, not having her be so slash snooty, and if I could say bitchy because that was how she came off. That was how she kind of came off without without really the back story that this is what my boyfriend estimated. There's all this history. With a movie only ninety minutes long it's hard to convey all of that with audience going what is up with this girl to have her die already? So. That was the kind of the challenge, so I wanted to bring a humanize her a little bit, so the senior director let us play with with the lines and stuff we I I was I was joking around. She get a writing credit for this. We add we had the little liberty to add lip so many so many lives, which is so nice and and very freeing, because we got to bring what we wanted to the character, and the an with the seal of approval from the director. He was like half on. You know, do do whatever comes natural, which was so great for us to play like that now. This shot in Panama and what we're conditions like. If it's during the summer, it can be kinda growing as we all know. It was during the summer in the weather was ridiculously hot and I don't know if you know I don't know if you've ever visited the Kennedy Manian jungle. It is Oh my God. It is just that the filming circumstances that we were dealing with was just they have these remarkable trees there that have spikes. Six inch long spikes protruding protruding from the trunk from bottom to talk, and so you got yet, and throughout most of the film were sprinting at top speed. Most of the NOSSA would come in. We'd be like we need to. We need to run faster because they're not running fast enough for camera, so we'll be running as fast as we could without tripping over any. Any ground roots or anything and not falling base. I would've spycatcher which is what almost happened to me, but I think one of the worst things was I think the there was a same sort of the the film with as a rescue helicopter and I'm running towards it in front of me is all the super tall six mutual blade grass elephant grass that the. Grass and I'm running through this. They had me doing take after. Take sprinting through this grass to the helicopter, and it just chopped. It looked like Edward SCISSORHANDS got to make just thousand cuts. Little mini cuts cuts all over my likes and that shower that night was. Possibly the most painful shower I've ever experienced and the trooper. Kaaba itself I mean this was actually a gentleman that was in the costume and how how you expose to them. Did he kind of? Let you. See Him ahead of time, or did you just started seeing them? When they started shooting, he was he was really nice I, think he he. He realized that he we shouldn't get to accustomed to seeing him because we needed that. Fear factor so we. Try to keep himself hidden from us but the the one, the few precious treasured moments we would see him would be of him and his full. We call them cheapie the costume. Flops enjoying a snickers bar. Supreme Goals. It was it was amazing. He was works to your I wish she was here because he was incredible, he gave us so much to work with He. He was Oh. My God he every take. He gave us his emotional. He would scream. I was going. Oh, my God! How is he not dying in this weather with that all that? Make up on him. so much makeup every day I, think five or eight hours of makeup every day. But he and it was barefoot, so he was going through the Panama. We are all complaining and his. Scratched up, but he was a trooper, and seeing him for the first time was terrifying, and we didn't really see him enough, so we got. We got enough terror that we didn't have to act too much so briefly for the audience. How would you describe this movie to get go see? Fun Movie it's your. It's your go-to. Har- flick on the Saturdays where you're like. I want to be terrified. Tonight and I was I went in there with my with my boyfriend and we realized. I told him I was like listen. It's a Tube Macabre, so don't be like saw expectation. Wise. You're not going to be. And we went in, and I was so pleasantly surprised with how it all came together. How everything with the tube carbon the because he added a little bit of CGI to. More terrifying It was so great and I think it's something that people really enjoy the and we have. The friendship really tried to bring that the friendship aspect. Where he works. You just don't care about the characters line. We tried to bring that into it so much in that span of time where you try to you care about the characters dying, so we hope that it's one of those that. That you like. Gives you think about after? It's done a great great talking to you and always nice to meet another guy. We'll be back with more. My Retro Special on indigenous from the TRIBECA Film Festival, but here are my good buddies. Justin cabin dirt in Tim Byers as we talk about the Geek initially. I kick things off. We all worked together at San. Diego Comic Con This past year, and it was really the first time. We all kind of teamed up and I just thought it would be cool to make it something a little bit more permanent, and it's like initiative. Initiative I in a nutshell. It's kind of like the avengers where we all come together and really do something special, but we also have our own thing going on as well and to launch things off. We have the Keith initiative at connect. 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Yeah, I uploaded both spreadsheets. I keep a public version of the of both marvel and DC movie report, and that has some basic data like I put the. Box Office profitability up there, so I'd like I'm actively tracking age of Altron and this week in fact that it will be boxoffice profitable, but for the subscribers go into the GEEK initiative. The there is other stuff there including the breakdown, so for example if you want to see how Fox movies have done, it's not available on the public site, but if you WANNA see how Fox's performed as As a percentage of the entire marvel movie universe ever I have that in there for subscribers I have you know all the franchise breakdowns I have the studios drivers get the unfettered access to everything but there is a public teaser in addition to that like I. WanNa do other you know subscriber exclusive, so I've got my youtube channel and Ali doing youtube videos that are. Are Subscriber only ones that do go public I'll do subscriber early access so I'll probably be doing some custom. Hang outs. just to take questions from members. What Justin said you know it's all about the members, so if there's anything requests, I will take them. I also chime in the premium site will adapt to what our subscribers want and there's going to be much more to. To come for sure. The site is at connect POW dot. com slash the initiative. All one word really be adding a lot of cool things. They're going to be updates on SCI FI talk, dot com so definitely. Check that out. There's even a dedicated page to geek initiative on that site. Let's get back now to the red carpet at the TRIBECA Film Festival two, thousand, fourteen for indigenous. Next is one hope veal day. Who is Julio Hi how you doing? Could. Puncture, how are you say you? Yes, yes, I'm. My family I was born in Cuba. My parents are from Galicia. they are from on which is right, near Luga. Oh. That's great. Mom, sight on that so yeah! Yeah, well, yeah! It's like my. The funny thing was the My grandparents and Havana, that's. Married there even though they lived close by no. So with this I understand you guys had a lot of freedom to play with the characters and go off script a little bit. Did you guys talk amongst yourselves on how the direction to go? What you just let your acting instincts kind of guide you in the direction of scenes well for me was literally different. That to to them because I'm beginning I've been working in the movie like three days before my where shoot okay, because the same me like I'm a million. Yeah, so it was I have a lot of freedom because discreetly all in a Fulani English and directors are like okay feel free of talking in Spanish. So I have like a lot of freedoms to do that and as an actor you get leasing for sure was like okay. I can play. I enjoy working with Alistair because he's. He was like When we rehearsed it scenes with like okay, sit down. Do your stuff and after that is. Go a little bit there. Yeah, with Guy Doing. And, that's that's good because I didn't know the guys for. Like a Good way to make the synergy. Working together. Yeah, and I think it's going to be great great. and. There's a lot of physicality on this. So a lot of running and you're in the jungle, and it's not a a sanitized set or anything particularly me. I took my uncle Oh. My run in the younger I'm all alone running in the jungle. During the day, or at least, but I also have like. Driving the car like. Fifty miles per hour inside the jungle in the pipe. Very I mean what's risky was fun. Movie Cool so it. Was a horror movie, but with a lot of action. Yeah, we learned to serve drinks drunk half of Pacific Ocean. I I'm not. But I learned how to do it. That's great, and how about the trooper? COBBER HIMSELF? What was your reaction when you first saw? Okay for me was like. A great make or not make up. You know because. I'm not no, I know about. Twenty years ago yeah. But you got some pictures that you have song drawings and stuff about who they should back out race. And the first time I saw he was. Launching Launched. His demon because he wasn't the. Damn scary. and. That helped me also because when when I was in my saying inside the jungle. I was picturing him running against me and the new. What's horrifying because his was? Is is horrifying. She's amazing, amazing, amazing creation of the make about this. So? It was a lot of fun for you to do this. One was a Lotta Fun. Expect to do more, you know more and I'm sure you had some downtime. We needed to relax to yeah. Well it's great to talk to your friend. Take care now. Coming to the MIC next is from summit New Jersey Lindsey McKEN. WHO placed? Hi How are you? Lindsey mckeon Lindsey how are you? Well, you know what's what's what I like about movies like this is when the director gives you guys room to play with. Your character is a little bit. You're not tied to every line of dialogue and stuff like that and you know it really helps with the conditions you're working. I mean I know he would probably guide you during the scene, but you pretty much. Did you let it all go as far as what she was going to say and do and then kind of work with him to set it down a little bit I, think a lot of it. He allowed us to be very loose with and I like to stick to the script and the character as guideline, and do as much work on her as a human being as I can, and then hopefully get there and be able to throw it all away and have organic moments. Come about and when you get a director that trust you to do that. That's the best kind of director. So. The the the conditions weren't the best of times I mean. There's if. You're in a jungle, so it's not a set, so there's injuries and things like that. So how did you all guard against something like that? I think. Nature helped us. Not, case because it could turned out a lot worse than it didn't even turn out, and there could have been a lot of things to go wrong. And I think when you know also say you work with producers. And he worked with directors, and you work with actors where there is something this movie to meaning so much to them, and it's their first big project. It put so much backing and so much faith in it, and we all believed in it so much that I think naturally you know nature sort of rises up to meet you and says okay. We'll take care of you and you won't. Now, were you guys close to civilization, or were you really out there? I mean we were always fairly close to civilization, but the the jungle jungle was really the middle of the jungle, there really dead deadly aunts and deadly trees and pot holes to Paul in and snakes and monkeys and et Cetera et Cetera et Cetera, so it was real, and we had a lot of elements to work with an AD. Throw into our acting, which is so phenomenal. What I liked to is that you know you see truecar Brazil done almost comically in some other films. You guys played it straight. You know, and and it 'cause. It's actually in the Latin world. It's like a bigfoot legend. It's actually almost respected and feared. So I'd like well, and you know in those folklore's. He's such a small animal. A little dog walking on four legs red is your, and in ours, ours is much more menacing. You more over. Almost human, being with impossible strength, and shredded teeth, and now look really really awful things that you would not come in contact with. Dark Congo and your reaction the first time you saw. Really pleasantly surprised. You never know how they're going to turn out. You never do and this one turned out really well, and I'm really proud and I think that I think allister's editing had a lot to do with it, and I think the cast, and the bonding that we all had together over those weeks had a huge I huge impact because the characters get Kinda, cliche and those kind of. And you really WANNA. You know it sounds like you all worked hard to avoid that as much as you could. We did, and I think when you connect on a human level and you von D-, you break those boundaries, and you're not just playing a stereotype anymore. You're playing a human being birth. What's up for you next? Willing, just didn't other episode of Supernatural. That's great show. One of the boys last year. We disguise. Family men they just they just fight demons, but they're not slow. Yes, exactly. What that's coming out on May thirteen and then I have another film comedy called flock of Dudes that's coming out and. a short film. That's a comedy that got into can. Super Exciting. Yeah, how many episodes you can think you'll be on supernatural I. Don't know I can't say they are going in for their tenth season. It's a it's a little show that always they'd never quits. Just when you bury it, it comes back to life. It's great I've actually known each other probably for fifteen years. You know once every two years I go back on the show, and he's like whether you like it or not, you come. Eventually never thought we'd be here. I was like ten years later. No I didn't I. WE WERE ASKING AT COMIC CON last year. You know about that that they never die and they were like you know. They always seem to get up that hill. It's it's it's. It's a great show, but it's the boys. That's really what keeps it going. It's a there's a family aspect though shows usually don't have. And you comb a separate that into its own. You know subplot. It's so strong so. Those boys together. Comfort the ease the care I mean they have that in real life so you? Realize. It shows on the screen well. We look forward to seeing you in that and many other things, and in this too great to meet. You to. Look for Lindsey and women sometimes men. That'll be coming out this year. And playing Carmen is lower upenn well. I heard a Spanish accent they're. Always. I tried to. Better every day. You're preaching to the choir. My parents were Cuban. Accent they've been here over fifty years and have an accent, but they can speak English. That's the main thing. I do I do very much. My pocket me. Me Mother. In Canterbury. Yeah? No, it's nice actually. There was just I. Don't want to get off track here, but there was a film competition last year here and one of them winners some. Spoke very little English and we did the entire India Spanish, so that was. That was nice, but so for this You all got a lot of freedom to kind of really you would dialogue into shape. Your characters was that like as an actor to kind of walk into a project thing to get. A really really difficult to speak English because I never I never been a film. He was my first experience. Yeah, and I tried to do it in English in are the same time to see what happen and have to pre. I've to to improve improvise on some things, and for example to work into the jungle is really hard because you had to see a lot of A. Dangerous things like spiders. Things and I wasn't thing that happened to me. I was shooting. I fold down when I sold. Who make up is I really really good. I was scared. I so I fall down and I. Put my hand in as piracy. Tree. Oh a lot of a lot of. Going doing the doing the shooting, so it was It was a really really good experience. I was tomorrow almost two months into Yongle and I learned. Also, had to. As trying to. To learn health sewer and. It was amazing makeup offer David. Anderson was to academy worse with many back, and not professor headed opportunity to be makeup by HAM, and they make up his amazing. You have to see. My Gosh and all the things, all the things I learned I learned law. We producer. We did director and I have to listen. I had to be careful. Of Alastair. Reason with Africa is very different. For physical for me on their. English and you can imagine sued African he goes. Oh! Gosh show. Are. You able to sleep. from Spanish in there, too. Is speaking. Spanish at the movie. Yeah, of course. And English, that Oh my God I'm so excited to see the. And actually we have to wrap it. You actually are the person that brings into. You lead them into all this. Is a Latin girl. The logger who invi- to the guys who know waterfall that he some toys by humans, and then we go into the jungle, and some strange things to happen and I am that girl in sexy girl I? Am We trevor while over the guy's? A be it'd be bold, bold leap with driver and the yeah, this is my my mission. I am the bad you're. Guilty because I cycle consequential for me. The guys into the jungle soul. Really, glad and I'm really glad you're doing an English speaking film and wish you the best thank you. Sir I always like meeting. Latino actors. going. To. Keep doing? A Hollywood positions and you're here in New York. Thank you. All right, thank you, thank you. Zachary Tanega is Scott as Zachary. How are you? Well I, tell you I gotta give you guys all credit. Because doing research I haven't seen this yet, but the fact that you guys really had a lot of room to play with these characters and really kind of shaped him. As you were shooting, you had a script, but there was some freedom talking about that environment and and. Did you have time as actors to kind of work things out, or did you kind of play the scenes and just let your instincts take. We did you know some of the more complex scenes. We definitely rehearsed out a bit but one of the great things about working with Alistair was that freedom. You know we certainly had us at script that we're running by, but he was very open to Improv discount and seeing what would happen with with each and every scene so it was a pleasure working with him in that aspect and the. The physicality. For what was that like? Definitely a very visible shoot I remember I i. I think the most difficult portions were the jungle shoots. You know certainly long hours in the jungle and a lot of running you know, take after take after take of sprinting in the jungle, and granted. You know we're talking about a hundred degree. Temperatures Yeah, it's pretty brutal. Yeah, and you're talking about your cast mates. How did you guys? Usually a film will either destroy cast this or bring you closer to get. It definitely brought us closer together. Yeah, we all. Got Along this. You know it was like a little family after you spend that many hours together. In a dense jungle with nothing else to do talk to each other We definitely build relationships. You weren't expecting so and you macabre the chew copper was terrifying. Yes, it was. Very very fun, working with the care to play the shipping. Make Amazing. Dave Anderson did just phenomenal job with the character and what you see. Is Basically what we did. There really isn't a whole lot of CG. It's amazing what he did with the. Government, there is still an art to creating a good onscreen creature, instead of on somebody's drawing PAG absolutely. Yeah, absolutely now I know you're from Wisconsin. I am and. I. Know I i. Read Your Bio and it. Just I just wanted to let you know a huge green. Bay Packers even though I live here in? New York I love the packers I'm looking forward to the season I been out there. It's a great place to visit. Any Games. I have to free A preseason game and I've been here when they played the giants, I've been here last time wasn't so clear, but. One before that was a good game, but yeah I. It's with the Internet it's easy to follow these days. It's true that's. Not so easy, but great to meet you. Really WANNA see. We do with this guy. I think it's going to be. All right. And as Trevor is actor Pearson Ford Just real quickly. You guys had a lot of room to play in this movie. Bars lines weren't married to the script. was that like for you for that experience? You know as an actor. I think the the ability to Improv in moments is very very helpful. Especially, there's there's Times. Don't connect to the words and that's that's really difficult as an actor to not be connecting to what you're saying, and to the ability to Improv and play around and the the freedom. That project director gave us with. That is huge. Because not only does it drop you back into reality? But it also like there's real things that like as you writing a script, you don't pick up on those things because we're in the jungle with the monkeys with the Scorpions with everything, and it gave us a whole new experience from the table. Read that we're able to throw things out there and bouncing off of each other, and as well like interacting becoming friends with the other actors, it really allows the room to grow and permit the new relationship, so is fantastic and I was totally in love with that. I love being so it actually helps you shape the characters a little bit too very much because know. As long as the screenwriter has done his job in the director does there's the actor steps in like creates the character, and that allows that even more freedom to really. Create those little nuances that make those great quotes for the next ten years to come you know. This is funny. Things in lines that people will say from you know here to come salad and physically it was. It was extremely grueling I. I would have to say. This is one of the most intense shoots that I've done today. Time. There's a whole scene in a cave where I'm really and it's not a set ono. There was real real bad flying at me and hitting me, and like one tried to bite me like swatted away and Really I crawled through back one four sixteen hours one day. It was an eighteen hour day in like it was amazing. Now I wouldn't give it up for the world. It was so fun and I was exhausted at cuts bruises that we had these awful spiky trees that we ran into. I had. Great! Ten percent while right, looking forward to seeing this and congratulations so much could to see it here. Pledging take care, thank you. The movie is available on DVD. Certainly pick it up. It's actually a pretty good the monster movie. It don't WanNa. Diminish it by calling it that, but it is a lot of fun. Until next time on SCI FI talk, this is Tony. Tomato thanks so much for list arm Emery Hampshire and I play Jennifer going on twelve Mortiz and year the full Seifi.

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Tom Smith

"Welcome to everything is filled with andrew mckee be show for information soon interviews and news at dragon con. The world's largest fantasy science fiction venture <music> welcome to the everything is podcast. I am andrew mckee and with me. Today is the amazing the incomparable incomparable. Tom smith hi there. Oh yes <hes> coming down to the wire <hes> on dragon con the year and <hes> so but now my fault they had a huge website shift and change a lot of things around so but i think it works out well because that way we actually know what our show is our when we get on the podcast. It's it's it's amazing actually have a scheduled. I know crazy a it's always a good feeling when you know what that schedule is. When you're a musician you you get a few weeks ahead and then you finally okay. Here's a schedule especially actually nice to have that a dragon because you've got to plan things and dragon you really do you. It's even even though for the most part our stuff is set in just the one hotel you know the highest. There are five hotels last. I checked on yeah. I'm actually after they did the five main hotels and i don't know how many hillary hautes hotels and there's all the elevators elevators to fight and there's all the other things he might possibly want to see and there's all the things that other people wanna see. You got your call attention to your own schedule so it's it's like giving giving you're. We're getting a a a a month or two notices nice well. It's not even just the logistics and where you how you're going to get there. I i always described dragon uncon- as a hydra you know on all the mini heads of dragon con you deal with one track or one group and then you're like okay. I've got a scheduled for are you. Now i've got to figure out my schedule for this track and then i've got to figure out my scheduled for that track and <hes> it it yeah it takes a little while to get everything finalized and not to accidentally finley overlap so the app exactly exactly logistically dragon con is the craziest thing i do every year. I don't know if that's true for you but for me absolutely it is by far the craziest logistical those i like an into a theme park. It's like you cannot see see everything okay. There's no way so find the things that you're interested. Go check those out and otherwise just kind of relaxed and see what there is next year. You can do some more stuff yeah this because next year it is not going to be like the previous year for you. <hes> it's going to be like a completely different experience <hes> absolutely and also you have to remind people boy they have so many <hes> there are several different dragon con <hes> <hes> pages on facebook and they have so many. I'm a newbie what canova dragon khan and you know you. You can get so much different vice but fortunately there's a few things that keep coming back and it's like okay. I get your to schedule your second hydrate third. Remember the rule of five two and one for those who don't know that's every day at the con. You've at least five hours sleep to salad meals and one shower. The the showers really appreciated on the shower is very very close group in the elevators. Let me tell you when everybody's but he's elbowing each other all the way through five hotels plus you yes. Yes yeah yeah yeah i it. I don't know there's there's still a part of me that thinks that moving dragon con to the convention center or something like that would be a lot easier on people with <hes> wider avenues for people to travel level but at the same time you know a lot of the charm of dragon con is where it is so i see both sides of the i don't think the convention center would necessarily be good idea for the simple fact that the way they have it right now. They have enough room to do each part of the con- true and it's easier easier to get there within the hotel network than it is to do through the convention center. I mean you know in in from the hyatt. You can pretty easily you know just take some walking or a nike skewering get over to the marietta get from there to the hilton right back that way <hes> along the way you can get to the <hes> peachtree center which is the main food court and right there. I think the hilton is still got. The gaming <hes> the marriott has says the walk of fame and a lot of the <hes> the big name programming and <hes> costuming <hes> the rest of the costuming and <hes> <hes> some of the stuff in the film stuff is in the high along with the filkin the art show <hes> you can stay inside and you don't have to fight whenever weather condition is out there on the deal with whatever parking condition is out there. You don't have to figure out how you're going to get to the convention center. I know they have shuttle buses but when you're dealing with seventy five thousand people shuttle buses for not enough. It's very very very true so you know that that's one of the beautiful things dragon con. Is you get inside the hotel and we're good yeah yeah. I mean you described it like a hydro with many heads. I mean it's it's really <hes> i mean you can put a track in its own little section in one hotel and it works especially. If you're concentrating on one area especially like you'll get gamers. We'll go there who game a lot and try to do mostly that <hes> you'll get people who want to go to the walk of fame and do that a lot. I mean it's a little tougher for us. Collected people who have so many interests at a it contains. That's where you get stock but most people are concentrated on at least one or two key areas. That's where dragon con works great. I think yup okay now. I've got to change the name of the podcast. Now it's now it's dragon con strategy one on one with andrew mckeon well we. We have been doing this for years now. See that that's why i like having you around because you've been doing it so much longer than i have have. I still feel like a newbie when i'm around you i. I'm a talented amateur. My primary impetus is having fun. Well yeah like i i mean. Don't get me wrong. <hes> trying to go the music route and the professional musician i mean that's i mean the money and the glory and all of that is so phenomenal but if if you're not having fun why would you do it. That's the main reason to do it. Definitely my my my my my my money is so phenomenal that i got another bag of returnable cans sitting in the kitchen dime a piece yeah well speaking speaking of which you <hes> you you were saying earlier that your van had some issues so you're figuring out logistics for dragging kong anyway i was i was against it spike con <hes> this year's nasty which is out in layton utah. I think it was late in <hes> donor late. My bring us meeting the name. I think it was late in utah. Take i had my van for five years. This is going to be a short story. Okay for the long form is being written with song <hes> aw yeah but the gist of it was that number one. I have no i had no a._c. In the van a._c. died last year when the serpentine melt died and took the a._c. With a hey not so good for summer well not so good for the summer that we've been having you know the the the spring and summer with the the ninety five degree temperatures across the entire country. Yeah okay now. I've managed to actually work around that. I had <hes> i at least had air circulating in there. <hes> i had a couple cooling cloths on me. I had a small cooler in the front seat with <hes> with ice that i would renew every day in and dribbles and everything so no i wasn't too awfully bad on on the heaton and sweating and stuff okay wasn't great <hes> also because of <hes> shall we say my physical limitations. I had to stop a couple three times a day. <hes> usually at walmart to use the restroom okay and and so what should have been in like eight hour traveled as turned into nine ten eleven hour days okay but what really sealed the deal was <hes> about fifty fifty five miles pass laramie wyoming the vans started to. I i gotta check engine light a what check engine light what the heck is <hes>. I remember what it was. It was it was the battery light the battery and i and i pulled over and there was some steam rising up from the under the hood some nice guy came some nice that came along and helped me with putting some antifreeze in there and he poured antifreeze in and it went right through to the ground oud cracked radiator not good in any way so with the help of the of the wyoming state state patrol. I eventually got me and my van back to alarm me because the alternative initiative was either going one hundred fifty miles north yes you to casper or continuing on about three hundred twenty five miles off to the con- the kinda was like oh oh yeah we can come get ya van towed and i'm like i have one hundred miles free toe on a on aaa. I'm not gonna pay for another two hundred twenty five miles of towing no that's that's. We have some wonderful terms for that. Ah sixty months and the vanish all sitting there after sending a ascend the junkyard the <hes> the title because there was no way they could fix it would be safe driving back home so i ended up i ended up sewing and we get like sixty dollars for the <hes>. I got a rental with the help of a bunch of people online who who threw money at me so i drive home good good. I got a rental van. All the way back home. I had friends helped me unload. Everything at friends helped me unload the van. They're into the rental van at prince here unload stuff from the rental van into the house so you know very very good made my life much easier but since then i'd say about the ninth of july i haven't had any wheels wow and i had i had to already cancel one <hes> one local gig because there were no way that can can do that and that was just taking merch bag in the guitar okay and and my and my walker now this dragging tone no if i can get down there and scooter is waiting for me on wednesday because no that's the other thing i i. I'm checking my reservation to make sure that i actually start dragging on on wednesday because they decided to start the con- on thursday nowadays but then if i get down there then i'll be okay and and so we'll see what happens <hes>. That's the big impediment right. Now is just transit. I have too much stuff to take with me and too much stuff to bring back so oh that's always the tough part with cons. Everybody always says oh wanted us fly and i'm just saying are you kidding me so i was gonna say people just the bus the train it's like i mean that that yeah i mean with just all the stuff you have to bring. It's crazy cost-wise to try to if i was young and healthy i like atar and evaluate clothes and my merch okay yeah and the merge takes up a lot of room. I mean you gastric. Aspic <unk> for three or four concerts closed for five days. You know right there. That's that's plenty. Okay okay now. I am not in the best of health and i'm a big guy so we're talking also my walker. We're talking about computer in case. I have to burn more merch at the convention. We're talking spare cds for for that purpose. You can kind of put those aside and say okay. I'll take what i got so that don't know minimal but it's still too much for any yeah i was saying you know <hes> the walker the cpap machine and i have a bit of new gear that i wanted to be able to use down there like a headless micro wireless microphone nice nice the headless microphone. That's good that could be a new song. I think he got some washington. Irving's the headless basement well. I mean people listening to this. Hey how tom get to dragon conway. What can they do. Can they <hes> by. I some of your c._d.'s on band camp or <unk> a i'm gonna i'm gonna put a bunch of new songs of this week. I'm hoping to actually have <hes> two new albums assembled in time for dragging you may have to burnham myself but one of them is going to be the second batch of things i've done for patriot on that's non-political and another not going to be political noise which is all political. Wow okay very nice and very timely yeah i. I wrote a song a couple years ago cold. I'm blogging as fast as i can. I'm so far you know. The the world world has gone so far beyond that yeah well. I mean i hate to ask but is there could hear a song from the new stuff. Maybe sorta god oh well. I don't know there's some there's one possibility here. This is definitely non-political one this yeah this this particular one is just i got the idea a couple years ago <hes> somebody somebody used the phrase mortimore bed-and-breakfast online and i said that sounds like something what does that scan to and <hes> well. I figured out what had scant you is that the song more door bed and breakfast mortar bed and breakfast all all right. Let's let's give it a listen awesome on a dark desert highway <hes> ash in my hair warrants mellow volcanoes we chew on the air. I'll behead in the distance. I saw shimmer heat. My head grew heavy and the sites were burn the hair off my feet beat there she law in the doorway webs and shuttering fangs and i was thinking to myself that i actually prefer or gangs then she bit mr frodo and she dragged him away. There were goblins loans out of our do. I thought i heard them say welcome to the bed and breakfast such a lovely place dropping on his face more on breakfast assed anytime of here any time <hes> they've prepared a beer twisted got the best hobbit has their bangers and mash. He's really banged up courtyard foul or share for a reason most rate because it's there so i snuck past the washington passed out from wine. They won't have a proper fourteen twenty two nine thousand nine hundred sixty nine and sweep angles voices calling from uh-huh socratic lettuce right into a trap. I thought i heard him say hey welcome to the more or bed and breakfast such a lovely place such a blasted waste dying alone at the more advanced eh breakfast from the own mirror error of galadriel huda warned of this jail. We were both just prisoners there. It was time to bail ale and we got inside or drew frodo put on the ring but then go and bit his finger off and and brought down the whole damn thing last thing i remember i was in iraq thinkin in both the girl back home as me and frodo ran out the clock just relax at a nice man it was scandal on giant birds and now it's the final tourists but i don't all over <music> <music> <music> as crazy now. I just had this little <hes> marker. I have smarter where my <hes> that that i put in the recording in reaper where i'm recording where the <hes> the song or the song and it was exactly where we ended up. I just moved it and put it somewhere random and it just like stopped in mark boo right there. I mean i. I don't have to move even a millimeter. It's just right there a hey sorry just random no no. Hey the random stuff is what makes life interesting it does it. Does it just like wow okay now. Maybe i should go put random stuff elsewhere and buy a lottery ticket. I don't know we'll see you want random. Okay you know the the the. I don't know you're recording the podcast right now. No i'm not a weekend yeah that's fine but but this is it's yesterday or the day before i was playing <hes> the <hes> the tablet game phone game elder scrolls blaetz <hes> okay and i was being attacked by by by an acronym answer okay and they've got drunk brunson battle and and this metro is going at me and he and basically so rock exactly like iraq and and as i'm killing them and i'm thinking metro johnson is right. I and i'm glad that children are here to hear some of that monster gibberish ah not only was it authentic dungeon gibberish. This guy hangs out with j. anyway okay. I'll figure a way to put it in. That's that's funny. Well okay okay all right. Wow okay yeah you do it. You could do as as little an extra over the music. I like the mortar a bed and breakfasts on that is awesome. Thank you it. It's so yes everyone listening to this. <hes> yeah go over pretty soon. You should have the song and others online gordon. Grab this stuff. <hes> <hes> say everything's tom smith that band camp dot com nights and <hes> and and that about a half dozen other songs we'll go up this week so band gap ah place to buy stuff from you. Yes i used to have it with my own shop on my web page and my web pages and a lot of transitions right now for instance is just a placeholder foot-dragging kind of schedule windy connor schedule a few of the things but it's just easier to have band camp handle all the mechanics of it yeah yeah yeah yeah don't have to <hes> don't have to play with the scripting. Don't have to totally l. of well. I know that you have several shows at dragon con. I know the let's see the <hes> <hes> you have a couple of main shows <hes> friday five thirty six thirty at the high end hanover f g and sunday four to five at the high at hanover over f g. I know you're gonna also be doing the world of superheroes tribute show with with oliver us and <hes> saturday from seven to eight and i assume you have a concourse show. Oh yes the concourse. Show is monday at eleven thirty a._m. I don't know why they put me there but with bill actually it right. I guess then yeah. I mean that's actually a good traffic. People are kind of going back and forth and stopping for a quick break and listening to music. I think it'll work. It'll be that's. That's one of the best things about us. Having all the filc right they're young you know come down to the escalator to the second <hes> basement of the hyatt and go straight forward you you got the handover wing where we're doing most of the concerts <hes> you turn to the left and there's the <hes> the art show you turn a little bit further to the left. There's the concourse state. Yeah okay well. I know you also if you panels correct yeah <hes> basically the you know the the welcome to filc and the meet and greet you know nothing nothing terribly elaborate this time okay okay but still plenty of good times for everyone to see you so that's so much good times for everybody because we say we have you. We have the barnes. I think we got the doubleclick swing monkey mason. We got p._x. Broadsides oh we have so many people uh-huh so great yeah and now we have a new director hong yeah. Thank you very much earlier. You did a great job yeah and and <hes> and now amber hanson is is taking over and <hes> you know since robbie trains run a too worried about not either well. There's there's going to be a lot of fantastic fantastic music. I think it will just seamlessly transitioned amber and everything will be great. It's <hes> it's so i i. It's easy to forget but you think think about when robbie i started taking over the filled track and what it's become since before and you're kinda like wow well okay. Here's a little bit of dirt all right. Oh dirt ooh. I like that. Let's sue robbie took over from me. That's true yes i i i was i was director in one year. Two thousand and seven i was not given a dime to budget anything nothing and i did my best with no budget at ultra <hes> and and everything was was it wasn't quite a disaster but it was pretty it was pretty intense and i got out of there because y- what's the point of doing it if they're not gonna get any budget authority or power so and the next year robbie came in and they gave him budget authority and bought fine fine fine. Whatever you're the transitional guy who came in and righted the ship made it work. No i wasn't i was the guy who got caught in a big mess. You can really do anything but you got us. Through the there. There is a link. That's my point. The ship didn't sink. There's a a phrase in professional wrestling fan of known as a transitional champion that somebody who who gets the belt off one guy so he can eventually lose to the guy. Oh you really want to have the best example. <hes> that anybody would probably remember is when <hes> <hes> when bob ackland ackland was beaten by the iron sheik back in one thousand nine hundred cough on nineteen need to something like that and the she got beat my hulk hogan and and and hogan loaded in popularity and boom they basically because back when it was a good guy and hogan was a good guy and at that time <hes> you know w._w._f. Didn't have good guys go against each other so they needed somebody to get the belt onto hogan where they figured the popularity would would spike dramatically and they correct <hes> in this case the iron sheik was the transitional champion. It's like okay. Put the belt on. I'm given two weeks in and then you know one leg drop and that's well you know jean. That's what the villain is for. You know they they take something that's important and then the hero can come back and take could back transitional champion okay now. That sounds like a song right there. I'm just saying that could be who knows we both right about any damn thing. That leaves us pretty much pretty much. I mean i as much as you try to please the fans hands and do some cool stuff that they will enjoy oh a lot of the time. It's just what makes me happy yeah. Okay say that's that's the biggest trick is is finding the overlap between between what you like. What you're honest like that is open pretty good at that okay. At least we've been very fortunate in that. Yeah and there are plenty of songs things that were i won't even say one hit wonders. They were <unk> songs. I played a couple of times and did not go over well that i liked but we're just not the fans. Are kinda like well. We'll drop that one from the playlist. That was fine. Okay moving on on the other hand. I love the small simple. Ones 'cause 'cause those you can get people with a fast zinger and that's it <hes> like on the kids album. I got a few songs that are like about a minute each okay <hes> and <hes> and also on freer confessed occasion. I can't remember which play this is. What at this point but one of the the things there is always girls. Welcome to dr banners neighborhood not an amount that under don d-o-n don don't don't you will you wouldn't like me when i'm angry but i'm never going to get angry at my neighbour. Be my neighbor. I've been over exposed to gamma rays once in a while. I am i go crazy. Neighbor be my neighbor. I may sometimes <hes> sometimes overreact to things might get rash but i promise you i'll be your friend gnavor eber smash you the leader the rhino general ross maibaum your driveway but they'll pay the cost because your mind if your mind won't you be my neighbor. Won't you please please won't you please please won't you be hopes neighbor unique neighbor. That's all there is to that dissolve their all their needs to yeah yeah. Yeah i mean it. It's it's sort of like that. One sort of joke that you're just leading up to at the end yeah i totally get that people forget the the the whole the thought people forget that that there there are a few solid rules to comedy okay number one be funny. Yeah and people appreciate that they did. They know we're witty or clever. We're edgy and know be funny. If you're doing comedy be funny number two when the joke is delivered move move on that's true. Don't don't try to stretch it out. That way lies madness in the end the never ending skits on saturday night live and monty python on don't be joke yeah. The shortest folk song of all time is four words and i've seen the people always put on an extra tagline and make longer than snow. All you need is four words for hills are alive no yeah they feel like they have to explain it and sometimes the best stuff. You don't excellent okay well <hes>. I guess we heard one of your new songs. Can i throw in a a one of your classic songs from your show last year. Drank sure sneak win me getting there okay now now. This is one. I particularly like <hes> me. This is my taste so i'm totally just you know it's my podcast. I can get away with it in the alternate universe lost and found is i think that's the title right yet is the title okay and i just <hes> yeah. That always makes me laugh and it's it's. It's kind of <hes> i. I don't know if it's a commercial free <hes> commercial service or a p._s._a. Roy <unk> on non non commercials but it seemed a thing yeah the the more the song goes on the more. It's just kind of like oh my gosh yes i and that why have i not thought of this before kind of way i will i will point out something at this point all right and and this is maybe <hes> sticking sticking something on people's noses that they don't necessarily have to have one of the things that both of us talk about when we're doing our our panels on getting people into recording music is that there are gear wars all over the place. You know it's like okay. Do we a us reaper. Do we use logic brody. We use this microphone to use that studio monitor speakers we use this this that that did and it doesn't matter because the listener at the end doesn't care what year you use as long as it sounds good yeah now. It happens that this song this recording that you've got a a this this is from the life show last year <hes> from the sunday show last year. Yes the sunday show yeah. I was gonna say it's i. I think it sounds pretty good. Okay the studio recording of this also sounds pretty good but if you compare it with the mortar bed-and-breakfast recording which is from this this year all right. I've learned a bit in the last thirteen years and my mixes or solid and you can tell that and there's a couple of things in in the past. I love to go back and a remix. I gotta find the files and see if i can but it's just like if anybody out there is inspired to try recording and everything if you've been <hes> listening to andrew talk about getting into recording if you've been checking out his panels dimensions even checking on my panels practice does make perfect at least at least it improves it heavily. I am such a better engineer than i was when i first started doing this twenty three years ago. It's it's it's not even funny. It's it's i mean there's experience with knowing how to do something or tricks to make something sound a certain way but i think a lot of it the major a percentage of it is training your ear being able to hear the subtle differences between a and b it takes time you can't when you first started and you try doing very subtle effects on things and you can't tell the difference i mean you have to do it in a serious major way to be able to tell l. and then you just say well. I hope the subtle thing is good too but later it's <hes> i mean gradually your ear starts to be able to hear these very slight changes changes with just raising frequency by one point five decibels which must be something like that and it's also few learn along the way e you so you can be taught the stuff but it's it's going by feel a lot of the earliest oh yeah and the other thing that i think people have trouble figuring during out is that <hes> there is no wrong here. Absolutely i mean this is artistic taste. I mean it's like yep. Do you use the color blue or do you use the color red. It's up to to you. I mean it's whatever whatever works and you know. I always love hearing occasionally online. They'll have these mixed exc mix things where they give different audio engineers the same tracks and say gave something with it and then when you here the final song it's like completely different songs are they is one better than another necessarily. It's just different yeah as as peter sickly used to say on his <hes> on his radio show. If it sounds good it is good t._d. Q. on yeah yeah anyway. The alternate universe lost and found a and well. Let's just say let's do this. Here is one of my favorite extra miserable services when half your socks on the table you put it on and you're not sure what has gone wrong with the t._v. Remote has lead disappear twenty. You and your wallets been coming deer. Where can you turn to when stuff starts getting the weird. The alternate universe lost and found the place. You want to go things no longer around. They're the ones suwondo with the fizzing. Your soda has all gone flat when you can't find your cat be alternate. Universe lost and found is here era where the kids spotted covers leads to a whole new place when you got a pizza across time in space when you're in new york city and you want some salsa when you're evil twin murders and you take the time when you fall through homes chiron beta crime merry christmas with mel blank was a famous. It's the already rivers lost inbound better. Give them all the night when realities exist ed come on when the long horns are invading your dad or the aliens wants you grow again the alternate universe servers often found is transition between the msci so you can't enjoy arrive future huger inventions we do with prime. We got wacked. Waivers blackjack down robson disease two major matt basin mrs beasley. They're always a year for you it when you said you you used to be when you made the mistake back your hurt unity we can do it world. The world you live. It is you. Are you tired of the rat race in water relaxing all that down your garden. Dan will make your guard. It's the alternate universe lost and found stopping for free. Brochure is your osbour- sumare more wonderland bound combs guide and if you feel like you've got the board into the sick. The next world remind all god's as long as no extra charge if we can get injured veep we're here for you. They all also <music> offer void phobia in wisconsin okay. I hope that was okay to put that song in oh okay just making sure prop formed last year. I must've liked it. You had to be your opener so that's it's one of several things that i use as an opener for the sake of of people who have roommates stuff for and <hes> showing people what it really is is okay short showing people what filthy is what kind of songs i do okay because you can get into something deep and dark or elaborate or or org majorly pun filled or you can say okay here. Let's start with something you understand where the socks in the dryer. Where's that twentieth stuff in your wallet. Where's the remote lots of good music tip fed for intro song to approach it that way. Yeah you have to do something to to slide the audience in <hes>. That's that's. That's why i like smash the frigging ferries. It's like it starts off with this nice little. There's a fairy grow of in my backyard and people can dig that. They can understand he's got a fairy grow in his backyard and then he starts hitting with a hammer when you smash them with a brick their blood cell thick and green and suddenly they're like we're sliding originally it what's going on. I actually had somebody a few years ago. At dragon con come up to me after the basically chasing him to the elevators after my set to to be rate me because the fairies should not offend you know you should not be derided like that. Okay you know the various will take take offence if you if you mock them and i just wanna get elevator and go up to my room okay well known for like five minutes letting me know how i shouldn't mock the ferries to i would argue that the ferries egos are strong enough to be able to take it actually given all the fairy tales. I've seen most of the fe would not be but it's all right. That's a good point. I gotta tell ya okay when i did smash the frequent ferries. When i was out of conflict several years ago on the west coast alexander james adams was there and he had not heard it and unfortunately there was not any video because he fell over lying on a on a row of shares and turn like fourteen shades of purple laughing. Nothing is ass off. It was great. I love having that reaction. I love having people just freak out completely. I've had i've had it a few times. It's great the first time ended up to that sean maguire her undead happy trees which is my song about an undid the <hes> about zombie bob ross no no she and randy hoffman were basically on the other side of the room. Just jaw hanging open for the entire was a good night well <hes>. I know that you started doing a new project yourself about with helping starting musicians sion's understand how to record write s yes facebook page called. Tom smith's music machines which is an odd to a site. I had about ten years ago called music machines trousers basically trying to <hes> continue on with super jam and a couple of other old programs which <hes> much like bannon the box would come up with <hes> basically <hes> i it basically you put in chords you pick a musical style and it gives you a background track okay song that was long dead and has been supplanted by a bunch of others accord pulse which is very cool and is only twenty nine dollars and has a free version okay so you can get the hang of it. Bandbox is the big winner right now as far as that goats hundred dollars but it's amazing i use it. I've been using on on almost also retract since two thousand six. Wow i did not know that oh yeah no no watson lots and lots of tracks that i use bandbox and generated backgrounds. It's it's great. It's literally. It's it's go. Click click click okay. Let's put out put a dobro. There and i'll make sure that this is <hes> you know make sure that this is a really impactful full drum set and over here. We got a durant of <hes>. How do you pronounce a badran. Oh bowron of iran okay yeah. <hes> get that and get a mandolin in here. It's great you just do do any damn thing with it but <hes> but yeah i've been doing for a few years the kind of panel final that you do which is to say a beginner getting into creating music and recording panel i think i think the biggest difference between the two of us is that i've been trying to focus on people who know nothing gotcha a recording okay and because i i i i attended several panels not any yours at this point okay i. I attended a couple of years along the way in annual good stuff in there but there were some where it's like okay. We're going to tell you how to get into recording and by the time it's done okay you know by the time it's halfway done. It was breaking down into a microphone wars. There's and software wars. It's like no no you gotta have gotta have this particular. You know sure thirty nine. No no no you gotta have this p._d. And it's like the beginners eyes are glazing liaising over. It's not helpful. It's not helpful when you get in a year words on that say here. Here's what a cord is yeah. Here's what a musical physical style is here. Here's some software to try and here do this with it. You know you all need audacity download <unk> download that i kind of tried to approach it more with the knowledge about how to do things and i i try to emphasize that you can use a really low quality computer mike and somebody else who doesn't know what they're doing could use a really high quality ten thousand dollar microphone and years duffle surround better. If you know what you're doing engineering absolute and that's that's what people tend to not understand at first but then you have the truth. The gear or is less important than understanding how to use it <hes> exactly now now. It's these days with presets in the quality of software. It's less less of a thing than it used to be. <hes> people can make stuff sound pretty decent without much knowledge because okay vocal okay open the vocal preset on their the effects us come on and it'll sound okay but yeah but it's it's. It's still nice to have. The foundation of knowledge says actually doing yeah yeah. I mean got it. I'm a big fan of the y. You know. You can't really understand what how to make a decision about these things. If you don't understand why it works the way it does and once you do that brings you the good stuff so yeah totally understand so this is a thompson music machines. You can find it on facebook. Yeah excellent excellent yet definitely not 'cause <hes> believe me. There is no such things one resource to learn everything music that sounded as as as a matter of fact. I will recommend one of the best ones that i use okay is the recording revolution dot com okay now. The thing is <hes> the guy who does that. <hes> he has a program on mixing and he has programming recording. He's got a lot of stuff that he sells or tries to so and if you sign up you'll get about four or five emails will be trying to sell you stuff yeah but he's got a lot of free stuff. He's got a lot of free articles on a lot of free videos especially lots of things on youtube but youtube channel which will give you solid practical advice on beginning to intermediate mixing. Okay he saved he saves the really really great stuff for the for the pay on the the paid for tutorials but <hes> but the basic stuff that he gives you is very solid and i'm going to be using a lot of that. As foundational things not not the videos themselves but just my interpretation reputation of of stuff that i learned from him <hes> because it's very very comprehensive and the nice thing is that he will take his time explaining explain everything and he'll play multiple times vacc- you can actually hear the differences in what he's doing which a lot of people won't a lot of people's okay. Here's how you do it. Leads leads a small little thing on your dog. You can't see what the screen is doing and and and you know maybe titles tell you what's going on and maybe not just the the name of the video supposed to clue you in his what's going on. It's like i have no idea what you doing. I don't know you you might want to explain this <music>. There's one piece of software that <hes> that have got for generating basically basically working on a classical arrangements and i'm just starting to play with that and it was kind of pricey but i got an on sale okay great. Let's take a look at this. This looks like really really cool stuff and the instructional videos explain a few of the functions and then say things like okay. Hey this is generated based on question and answer. What do you mean by question and answer in this context and i've been searching searching the manual. I've been searching videos. I have no idea what this is generating a musical phrase based on question and answer or just on answer or i'm question what yeah i hope. They have a good forum somewhere but anyway now you see here now. We're babbling about sex stuff but it is fun. Yeah it is it is once you get into it. If you like with our music. If you enjoy it you can really dig in deep and have a good time with it is very artistic and creative as long as you get that informational basis yup found and i apologize because you wanted to cut. This short probably going longer than you want to happen. I mean this is. It's you so you put us together in a room. We're going to talk for a while and does your very nine next thing. You know you lose an hour. It just happens with now. I do want to tell everybody listing who stuck through this whole podcast commend who to just yeah. I mean make sure tom smith gets to dragon. Con go check out his website in within the next week and he should have some new music up there erin by it all right now already got like twenty albums up there. Oh we don't have it. I just assume most people listening to this probably have all your stuff but if if they don't yeah i mean i noticed you had a collection of all of your stuff in one download that that's a band camp function. It's a very nice one. Yeah okay it basically youths thirty-five percent discount on the the set price for everything there. It's like click that and i think it's what i eight or nine concerts shirts and whole bunch of single tracks that haven't been putting on yet and albums and albums and albums so the best way to help tom. 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Should we be polite to Siri?  Ian McEwan

VINTAGE Podcast

11:21 min | 1 year ago

Should we be polite to Siri? Ian McEwan

"Uh-huh. Hello and welcome back to the vintage podcast with me. Lena gnomes earlier this week in mckeon joined BBC, Martha Cooney on stage at London's affects enter to reflect on his life in writing and his latest novel machines like me machines like me is set an alternative nineteen eighties. London Britain has lost the Falklands war. Margaret Thatcher battles. Tony Benn for power and Alan turing achieves of breakthrough in auto fischel intelligence. We lucky enough on the vintage podcast today to have an exclusive recording of ten minutes of the event which opens with Ian reading scene from the novel introduces this human atom here is in at the south Bank centre. It was religious yearning granting. Hope it was the holy grail of science. Our ambitions ran high and low for creation myth made real for a monstrous act of self love. As soon as it was feasible. We had no choice, but to follow our desires and hang the consequences in loftiest terms. We aim to escape our mortality confront or even replace the God head with the perfect self more practically we intended to devise an improved more modern version of ourselves and exalt in the joy of invention. The thrill of mastery. In the autumn of the twentieth century. It came about at last the first step towards the fulfillment of an ancient dream the beginning of the long lesson. We would teach ourselves that however complicated. We were however forty and difficult to describe an even our simplest actions and modes of being we could be imitated and bettered at I was there as a young man an early and eager doctor in that Chile. Dawn. But artifice humans were cliche long before they arrived. So that when they did they seem to some disappointment the imagination flee to than history, then technological advance had already rehearsed this future in books and films and TV dramas as if human actors walking with a certain glaze, look phony head movements and some stiffness in the lower back could prepare us for our life with cousins from the future. I was among the optimists blessed by unexpected funds following my mother's death and the sale of the family home, which turned out to be on a valuable development side, the first truly viable, manufactured human with plausible intelligence and looks believable motion and shifts of expression went on sale. The week before the Falklands task force set off on it's hopeless mission, Adam cost eighty six thousand pounds. I brought him home in Hyde van to my unpleasant flat in north Clapham. I'd made a reckless decision. But I was encouraged by reports that Alan turing war hero and presiding genius of the digital age had taken delivery of the same model. He probably wanted to have his lab take it apart examine its workings fully. Twelve of this. First addition were called, Adam thirteen recalled eve, corny everyone. Agreed but commercial notions of biological race being scientifically discredited the twenty five designed to cover a range of ethnicities. There were rumors than complaints that the Arab could not be told apart from the Jews random programming as well as life experience would grant to all complete latitude in sexual preference by the end of the first week all the eaves sold out. Callous glance might have taken my Agean for Turkey or Greek he weighed one hundred seventy pounds. So I had to ask my upstairs neighbor. Miranda to help me carry him from the street on the disposable stretcher that came with the purchase. While is batteries began to charge made us coffee, then scroll through the four hundred seventy page online. Handbook, it's language was mostly clear and precise. But Adam was created across different agencies, and in places the instructions had the charm of a nonsense poem unrevealed upside beef, three four seven cave vest to gain carefree emotive con with motherboard output to attenuate mood. Swing pin? Number. But at last with cardboard and polystyrene, wrapping strewn around his ankles. He sat naked at my tiny dining table is closed. A black power line trailing. From the entry point in his umbilical to thirteen amp socket in the wall. It would take sixteen hours to fire him up then sessions of download updates and personal preferences. I wanted him now. And so did Miranda like IGA young parents who were avid for his first words. There was no loudspeaker cheaply buried in his chest. We knew from the excited, publicity that deformed sounds with breath tongue teeth and palate already his lifelike skin was warm to the touch and as smooth as a child's Miranda claimed to see his eyelashes flicker. I was certain she was seeing vibration from the tube station hundred feet below us. But I said nothing now Adam was not a sex toy. However, he was capable of sex and possessed functional mucous membranes in the maintenance of which consumed half liter of water each day. While it's at the table, I observe that. He was uncertain sized fairly well endowed with copious dark pubic hair this highly advanced model of artificial human was likely to reflect the appetites of its young creators of code the Adams and Eves. It was thought would be lively. He was advertised as a companion and intellectual sparring partner, friend and fact, totem who could wash dishes make beds and think every moment is existence everything he heard and saw he recorded and could retrieve he couldn't drive as yet and was not allowed to swim or shower or go out in the rain without an umbrella or operate a chain chainsaw unsupervised as for range, thanks to breakthroughs in electrical storage. He could run seventeen kilometers in two hours without charge or its energy quivalent converse nonstop for twelve days. He had a working life of twenty years. He was compactly built square shoulder. Dark skinned with thick black hair swept back narrow in the face. With a hint of hooked nose suggestive of fierce intelligence pensively. Hooded is Iran. The said he resembled a Docker from the boss Fers. Before us set the ultimate play thing. The dream of ages the triumph of humanism or it's angel of death. How did you go about creating the Adam or put yourself in the mind of the people who were going to create him the people that can decode as and some will my I I think is a novelist was to set myself the goal of making sure that Adam would be a character that he had to become an individual and the second part of this was that his owner, Charlie? Would have to constantly hover between thinking he was playing a computer game that he had very expensive toy. On the one hand and on the other feeling that he was in the presence of a consciousness of fully sentient being and he was always full of doubt. And I wanted to read. To be in Charlie's shootings in relation to to Adam sometimes one ring sometimes absolutely certain that this simply was a sing. And then sometimes certain that this thing absolutely had a consciousness and then. Letting things roll in this way. I came to the central issue. Yes. He's paid eighty six thousand pounds for it. But if it has a consciousness, can you own it, can you own someone's even a thing? Can you own a consciousness? And the best way it seemed to test that out was to import one of the oldest plots, which is a three cornered love affair. Just as Charlie realizes that he's falling in love with his upstairs. Neighbor. Adam goes and has a night of shame with Miranda. And it seems to be the most important thing about that is what kind of conversation would adamant Miranda have the morning after. Did Charlie deserve to feel himself to be a cold. Or was Miranda. Quite right to say. Well, you know, if I go to bed with vibrator, you wouldn't have complained or you might have. But not quite so tragically. And that seemed to me a sort of parallel of that conversation, what parents might have about whether they should tell their five year olds to address Siri, polite me or not. So the thing really hinged on whether I could persuade the reader of step into empathize with Charlie's doubt. And also, whether I could make Adam into such a rounded character that by the end, the reader could be no doubt that he was fully sentient being. Thank you so much for listening to the vintage podcast. Have you read machines like me yet? Do tell us on Twitter Instagram at vintage books, and thank you so much to London's southbound center for letting us share that very exciting clip with you as always keep reading boldly and thinking differently and until next time.

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Local Hour: Juan Pierre

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

00:00 sec | 5 months ago

Local Hour: Juan Pierre

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All birds has made the environment a stakeholder in their business. Because when the planet wins, we all win with new all birds tree Dasher feel confident knowing that you can run hard and tread light on the planet. Find Your parents Albert's Dot Com. Today I'm really excited. Chris I think this is. In the history of the local are I think this may be one of our biggest guests that we've ever had. We're joined today by none other than want peer, who world series hero Marlins legend. Would you say your Morals Ledge? Oh No, no chance I. Guess Co nine Charles Johnson Maiden I think CJ. Thousand Legends Man I. I didn't do that much, but luckily for the Marlins Fan. It's always good to JP's report of a cool thing. The marlins were doing tonight. They're having a virtual chat presented by Budweiser Tonight at seven PM. On more ORLANDS. Youtube page YouTube dot com slash marlins. At marlins on facebook, it's kind of like a reunion of the two thousand and three world champion Marlins, and that's also going on at the same time Fox for Florida's rearing game, six of the two thousand three. World series. And they can fans can join the conversation with people like want here. We've got CEO Jeff. CONAN taught halls. Rick Directly Mike will a bunch of more or less. They'RE GONNA, be auto, which is a cool thing. So. Thanks for joining us today. JP No, no links avenue. Is always good to talk about the good pass. Do you can't do you stay contact with a lot of your teammates from them or no, don't trill. talked to him probably two three times a week, but the other ones I do outrun. They, Miami Alex are run into my lulls some Tom that field, but like daringly atop to Brian onto twice. but other than that Nada you. Don't you know what I mean you run, ask them, but then like having everybody coming together like this I think he's GonNa. Be Pretty Cool. I can't believe 'cause you don't look like you've aged day. Since the two thousand three more. You look exactly tales yet. GotTa stay stay right. They can't give me today like consumer. Seventeen I run workout stuff with him. It's hard to believe that it's already been seventeen years since that happened. obviously as a marlins fan growing up, that's one of the highlights that in ninety, seven or two of the biggest highlights. No more lives in terms of fandom and I remember what a problem you casteel were at the top of the going back and forth. You guys. One of you would get on base than poetry. Just drive you in because you get on first base than you steal second and third, or you'd get on first, and then you know sacrifice to get you over the budget. Get ahead like down the line, or even like an insult hit and I feel like you'd score from first on an infield hit. So how often do you guys like? Is that something that you guys remember fondly Madison? Where would you have bad memories of it? Not Yet? Yeah, yeah, you always end up being around baseball field accountable Econo- pops up and now with the craziness we ended shown a lot of the old games. Now to me is pretty cool because I. Never Watch the game by here. The commentator, the fans you know mean I never sat down and wise, but going to sign a major watch with my kids. My when warn you know at the Thomas? So. It's GonNa. Cool to to to to relive that stuff and I still get goosebumps talking it because where we started the season into where you know ultimated winning the World Series in Yankee Stadium. Is Crazy and I was just telling someone fans. We brought the fans in because it will. It was like the Marlins and the fans like came together. You know what I mean it was like. A family type deal. Were you know because we're in a? In the community you know me and don't. We'll go to Walmart hanging out. You know what I mean by fruit with some people. Novon. Shopping. Of course I shop at Walmart. Best. Be You know what I mean? But that's the type of stuff I think in. Came along with us, and it was just a fun right now. You are a guy who you were known for your stolen bases leadoff hitter. Get on base. You always had the green light I assume I assume there was never a time in your career. We didn't have the green light. Now. What comes with that is sometimes you're gonNA. He wrong and get caught stealing and get your team out of an inning. Story in your career of guy who got the most frustrated with you because you happen to get thrown out and got him rain at random out of an inning Oh Jack mckeon. Out? Wrigley Field One day. Out I forgot what year was stolen or try to advance or some any say? What are you doing out there? Jesse Owens could need made it to that based. On Jack Jack. My goal wasn't to get thrown out. You know what I mean how? But Yeah Jack Dachsie about upset because every to go, but sometimes he would be like man. What were you doing right this? Yeah? Again. You can steal whenever you want. Just be safe all the time. That's a tough way to live now. The craziest place you've ever seen. Jack mckeon lineup up stogie. Where he was. So we used to go to church on Sundays going to season this stuff in, he was smoked all the way up until he gets the church in India put it on the ledge outside of the church, and he wants searches over comes and picks it up. At the jerk, valid act, you'll leave it out there a good thirty forty five minutes, but yeah that and the busy I loved when he's walk in exercise, smoking a cigar, l.. Dollars as you walk around. The feel exercises. are Jack you're man from? JP You are probably we were saying before. How you're one of the greatest forums, Everhart, Legend and you. You dispute that now I don't think you can dispute that. You're one of the most fun marlins ever to watch. Just because of the fact, they always had the green light and you famously another. There's a video of you before the world series. Take the field a couple hours before you just rolling the ball down the line to see how it is. The ball would play now I. Don't know if you know this. You and I have something in common. We were both incredible punters I used to go by billy bunt. I was on Seattle. Mariners coach coach Lazzaro undefeated on of. Of you heard of us, but we were both great bunkers. We kind of set the table. Get on base now. It was a little bit different than because this is when I was like nine or ten years old to no one knew how to feel the bunt, and I was of just too small to hit, so they'd have me bunt, and then they're just be errors, but I feel like you and I were on the same page, and I'm wondering baseball right now, not a lot of bunting going on, and I'm wondering why that is in your opinion on justice statistics of behind the stuff you know everybody's plan for the loan ball and on s was funny watching the Marlins. Game One game six I. think dared lead. He's like four. Follow headed thirty one home rather he sack. Bud I'm like you never see that right now. You know I think the game. The game is played on 'cause a one interview and they said we hit like. One home run in the in the world series, or maybe to in life in the playoffs we didn't hit like maybe two or three home runs as a team or minority applicants It was some number where it was like a low on run mark, but we ran the basis. We did all the little of men in all, and that's going to be because I think in Miami is the only city with fan walls at really embrace that from me because nobody even knows the game I. I played wherever team played on there like the guy that hit the home run got all the the pub which I much wealth year, but fans really enjoy base run in the Bun and stuff like that, and that blew my mind so but yeah. I don't know why I don't know why you know I used to do. The bus station at Spring Training Marlins now with the pitchers mostly visit I'll tell them I'm like will be here another year, so get ready for. The ages sure now this year they play everybody's GonNa have at the age now JP, two thousand and three. That's just like my heyday. I'm thirty three right now. So this is like that was in high school is just my heyday and if I text my marlins group chat right now and I stay Marlins walkup songs the first one. They're coming back to me with. Is We ready? WOMP year that I'm. I'm telling you man I loved that Walkup Song. I don't even know if you realize how popular it was with fans I just take me back to that. Like what made you choose that song? Did you realize that the fans loved that song as much as they did? Welcome song was physically being not guys changed every other at-bat now, but back then like whatever you got like you stick when you. It's it's a big process in all these listening you working out man. You're doing all this stuff, so it's. The world of Song is really big enough. We. BLAME THE FOOTBALL STADIUM ALMOST Last Wow, and of course I mean abortion. We had fan so you really. You really hear loud and oriented today to this aggravated. He game or something like the we really might. I didn't know affect having fans. And you? Kind, what billy spoke before about going out rolling the ball? You were very. You kept your same routine. And I remember seeing you, you would stand in the same spot like when the pitcher was warming up and you'd have your routine with swing. It was the same exact spot same exact every time I stayed you. The the strangest daily routine like something that you did every day that made you. You know the player that you were Oh. Man I. I mean I was really meticulous, waited like I had been cage from like to the two third. You know what I mean. Everything was like broken down like to the minute for me. Moonlight out on. Feel like at six thirty. To warm up and stuff and give me ten minutes I was just came second nature. You know what I mean, but like even coming up to the plate like to the two step for winning at means, so it was it was. Noted that because I noticed and the two steps I'm telling you. I copied because I. Played. High School Baseball I emulated that I was like I. GotTa have the routine man got to do the same thing. Every time you step into the by every Tom, and the reason is because it was to get my hands mood, sometimes skew suicide with due to just to get my hands with the two steps, so it did have some meaning bonnet, but yeah in the. Ready Set the tone for the further teens that we were playing like when I was leading off the game. All right guys you in south. Florida you in hot foot Joe. Ravi player whatever it was all back in hot one hundred against about the rain here. We call it the fishbowl back then and we bought. We got a five thousand fans. We've been bring it to you guys. What was it like in the world series and the playoffs? Because I obviously more of we were there in the five thousand fans gains at five thousand, sometimes generous wouldn't get to the world series in the platform sixty five thousand You're playing. Playing against Roger Clements in every pitch is like everybody's taking pictures because you think it's going to be. His last hadn't even seen a hit that I was watching the game the other day with it in like watching a fan. I'm like I was thinking. How did we do that hunting? You play like that like the people thing because all season long colby and We'll have old conversation out here now boggled. GotTa gotTA. He can't hear me. I can't like this is not normal, right? You so it was a good feeling i. mean we just excited for vans? GEICO's the fans something to cheer about some latch onto in the. It was special ed because how we came from the first ball. Me Winning the world series is kind of like how Miami's Bill Miami's bill with a lot of people that advocate how they live. You know people that you good. Stuff like that works stuff handy tool, so they gotta make way for yourself, and that's kind of how the MARLINS team was kind of out of bugs. All the nobody even knew. The players on the team so one thing that I remember fondly from that run also was when you guys clinched the wildcard clinch the wildcard at home, and they had kind of a cool thing that day when you guys did was like a celebration in a tent, like almost in the parking lot with the fans and you guys were like running out. You're all hyped. You had like the Champagne. Everybody was going crazy, right? The one of the things that I remember the most from that whole experience was Aj. Burnett was out that season. I think he had like Tommy John Surgery or something. He was like he was having a lot of fun that day, and at one point he took off his shirt. He had to pierced nipples. He was like waving around his shirt on. The champagne was going crazy. What's a story like that? The fans wouldn't see that it's like yeah. This person was kind of crazy in our clubhouse. Aj was a huge like my locker mate, so he was actually the Princeton to every day at the check. My shoes make sure he didn't put like a spider or Salman there of. Any brand pity, Josh begging AJ names like all the rednecks team, so they used to hunt fish all the time, so they will fishing after the Games in one day any like Baby Alex. So Gaza their shower. He puts the baby alligator in the shower. You didn't see so many guys run out of that thing so. What! Will made the allegation. You know Gosh our you might be shared. By is Clo- euro in a baby alligators in showers, knows shower stalls. Shower up and I'm like. What are you doing? So I, remember that really Josh Beckett Always Long Golf Club in the clubhouse. After repeatedly, telling them not to do it, he always had slim. The ballclub in the Clubhouse, a tearing notes w would hit all kinds of stuff. Wait Poland swing a golf club hitting a ball now. Even in of all he was just not measure out the doll between her. And all that stuff we, we had a collection of guys not yet. Don't trill Biggie. The young bucks that came on and and really energized our team. You know me we're did out of town got through Jack came in. Did his thing so? Aj was one of the. Definitely on team amongst many. Right JP is going to be Portland. You mentioned penny that both can be part of a virtual chat presented by Budweiser beginning seven PM Tonight Moe Monday nights on the marlins YouTube page dot com slash marlins at Marlins on facebook. You can also watch the clinching game. Six of the two thousand three world series at Fox Sports Florida. You mentioned don trump so you dontrelle became tight throughout the year he was brought up in the middle of the season. He was a rookie and it was a phenomenon DON ROMANIA! He went in a couple of stars from unknown, selling out and selling like forty plus thousand when he's pitching against Randy, Johnson is He really the catalyst him Cabrera what got things going for? You guys as a team, because not that you weren't together, but it was. You got rid of tour board. You brought in Jack. Everything just seemed to click right around the same time yet the. That boost we needed. You know what I mean. Those guys are energetic like said not true. May also I always tell us? Ben Units of came up with social? Media! Being like. Man You'd like millions of followers and stuff like that, but you know he. He brought attention. This model is baseball by. We didn't push it. All being denied he bitch, new home in ages showed showdown school usually. Miguel? He was just a few meetings. Urge getting hit the walk off home. Run against. As Center and I remember one store when the League he's up like a couple of weeks, so he strikes out on breaking ball. You Know Meziane my own. Kind of young. You'll get a mental note, bobby. He told me that pitch again. I hit a home run home run. Easy rose now up here up next at bat breaking ball home run. I'm like. The truth up here by you can be all boys. He's like you know me and him back. In the world series dating Roger Clemens out he's had. He's one of these Ikea Holes. He's is just hit the ground running. They never stopped hitting and never been just been dominated old career now as a baseball player I assume you're. Superstitious. Six now I've said many times to billy and other people on our show that I am a big part of the game four game winning home run by Alex Gonzalez. Series now I was sitting in my seats for like the whole game and we were struggling. The marlins were in a Rut late night game. We didn't have a bunch of runs, so what I did was I was like you know what I'm going to go up to the concourse and watching this happening from there and I did that and outs. Gonzales hit that home run. Can you please tell billy that I had a vital part of that I? As, vital man. That's been a team player as leaving St. Teams actually while they're in, do switch it up. We had the squid Patton. He had a big party. None claimed at Mattel. Alex Win the Monday Monday I'm gonNA. Tell dollars hundred the home. A man took one for gene left. You see I know. It was hard right. He was getting food or go to the bathroom something. JD, WHO's not getting for that? I was a little kid at the time was mom. I'm going up there. I'm just watching it from there. I need to change this up enough of this, but what kind appearance you have, but let you wander on the concourse by yourself. Well, I also I. Don't believe that you're Alex Gonzales. That on Monday. UNLESS, WE'RE GONNA. We're GONNA tune in Monday seven o'clock more to. Eight people there I get a chance what? Bowl guard. I'm GonNa tell I know that. They're going out with about the homeless. I'm going to one when they ask Alex about the home. Run on the Youtube page. MARLINS DOT com slash marlins seven o'clock on Monday. Check it out and see if JP because I. Really don't believe that you're gonNA. Look when you guys were there and you haven't seen them in a while, and you're going to be talking about different things. You're not be thinking about Chris you're thinking about this homerun. You're going to be thinking about that is i. see it on his face. Billy. You're wrong. He is either. He froze or Face. Well I think we might allows connection with J.. P. For a second. You cut it off. Duty it was so funny like it looked like you were just staring at billy like I'm going to tell them billy. Rose. y'All stared. It'd be too, so I'm. Like you, GonNa cut the interview ally so JP. You have one of the more interesting careers in the aspect of your a guy that you received MVP. Votes at points in your career. Then you also had stat heads, saying that this is a leadoff hitter. He doesn't walk enough. I heard Tim Kirk and say you have the most hits of any player of all time. That never made an all star game wondering when you hear all those things. How do you evaluate your career? Are you upset that you never made it all started I mean coming from a country boy from Louisiana man like for me to get one day in the big leagues was like. I never would have dreamed of you. Know what I mean so anything on top of that world series hit. Onus you know, maybe I'll take pride in my game, no doubt but when people say that. In my career I tried to walk more and do August up, but like the Costa I do not want this going to steal the bay. So that's one thing. I wish I could have done was make the all star team because I had when I was Barry Bonds. Andrew Jones Jim Yummies like some some studs man, so when you look at it that way I was, it might disappointed in deputy world series ring over also. What's the year? Though I know there's gotTa be one year that you're like I should have been in all star that year old, four, zero four. That's coming off the world series. I'm like Nah I was like like three. Whatever twenty nine at the break we're like forty bags. Yeah, a heroin! Colorado's like Oh to. I knew I wasn't gonNA. Get it because nobody watched the rock. Band might be three thirty at the rate. We all mean, but that was the time where you just had stars out there, but. That the to no-one old in Oh four I'm like man I thought. I could've could've snuck it near somehow somewhere now I don't have statistical data to back this up, but there was nobody better in major league history at having the at bat sequence of foul ball strike to foul ball, foul ball, foul ball, foul ball ball to foul single like you're the king at just having long at bats. Were you never got to like a two ball count? It was insane. An opportunity live that. That my brother plan was balling backyard. You know planned. Strike out like you that make contact. That's why I kinda grandma's strike out. Hundred Sixty, two hundred Tom Leykis you strike that much, not be ashamed like we can. Embarrass struck out that much back in the day, but I was watching. The cubs named the Bartman ball game instead stuff like leading off with more car when I got hit down. The line is I'll wa- foul wall. God Forbid Foul Ball my all right this hit. Album, or this one in foul ball so. That me Louis at the talk. Louis was the same way Louis rows even better at it than me, because Louise to draw more walks than I did so Abbas both at the top were like really couldn't strike out. We're going to battle you in the about time. You got the clothes. We wore you down. And then that was all game plan, but yeah I do remember that like him, not striking out in. Trying to get a big ditch the it, what was that Berman League game for you guys since you brought it up? Because obviously a fan, you like great the Marlins won, but that guy's lifeless fell apart, but you guys made it to the world series because he got in maybe reached over eighty reached interfered. On his funding, because light ear Naw the replay is in God's talk like I was on second base so I don't know what was going on Dugout. Mommy's looted interviews like. The one on. His fame is all like. Saying. You, said your base. He's trying to score and stuff so and at the time. I don't know Food Carter or not. And you know we just spent a game. And then after this started snowball on the in as any on escort him out, and just got really nasty. And when you think of you're not thinking about it, but as you look back on, US messed up. Move I'm wondering if you thought about the shape, he because it's something that I think about all the time. which weird. Because why would I think about this but? We Castio left-handed great hitter contact I. Get on, Bass Right handed. The guy was like Barry Bonds. He was like a right handed. Barry bonds and every time he's sitting right handed. He's hitting home runs. Why is he not hitting right handed more often I dunno trust me. He probably wanted. Way they'll be. Yeah he turns into bear at Lake. And everything, that's why we're not going to occur based on left me. And he was I'm not going. He's GonNa hit. He's GonNa hit out where he's going to have a good back. Yeah, he was so much fun, but his mind frame was at. Left End, get on as gotTa do, but right in US like. As. Good light that man. It was awesome because he is writing slips. Up and he knew what he had to do, whatever I carried over switched over like he knew Ryan. What to do and love were left. He was just contact. Get on base. It would ever just get on steal some base rain. He was like super aggressive like just going into power. Natural side and he felt like A. Holiday. A TREE Right hand. I'm not messing this up I. Mean I feel like we're being billy billy? You specifically I feel like we're being a little. Cavalier Luik has steal from the left side was like three twenty career hitters, something and he batted a lot lower average from the right side with. No handed, he would hit four hundred home runs at least. All. Yeah exactly. Do you have any good. Dontrelle Willis comes up that year. You and him are good friends. You kind of take him under your wing. Does he ever get big? Had it because he's the guy that like? The crowd is empty for Brad? Penny Start and then the next game. There's fifty thousand fans there is there. Do you have a story of him? His head getting a little big where you gotta you know had to cut his legs a little bit now. He you know He. He got this road away. You know Sunnis from Old Clinton. Let everybody know from Oakland Alameda. Got Thrown away, eating eating really hit the big too much much because we have so much going on. It's all team related a lot of veteran guys on the team, so if he did, he kept it on the rack, but definitely you know. He never aired out maybe in his mind, he probably especially remember gave their heads. Sports illustrated covered. Everybody had the sports illustrated covers in in in the stands and stuff. Of the supposed to be made the cover of. gave out train hats in the whistles, the people in the outfield. It was awesome A. Mermaid they up high when. You arrive when the Burmese just like. Now, any of you ever get little bit jealous of Juan Encarnacion, having the chance for three to one from route that was like a thing for one home for some reason. Did you ever say why don't I get? No, no, no, because I mean now because he humanity keeping knowing in Colosio, man he he here say he was just stone face. By he he showed no, we, he was abused twenty twenty year Stewart when he saw invasions twenty home. That guy was underrated. That's one of the more underrated marlins players. Especially during that season by head believable sees not to get this not to turn this in a sad direction, but has anybody heard from him? Didn't he have like some horrific? Foul! Fell off as I think he's in Dominican, I haven't talked to him I would love to see him. One I wish would be on call, but yeah I. Think you standing on the Saint Louis News at Saint Louis Foul. Ball got him in Xining? He couldn't play again. Underrated on the T. I feel like we should go out on a bummer because. Low, not. Just so when you say wanted pronunciation. That's where my mind goes. I'm sorry Eddie. By me, no, let's go. Let's go back now because you say that you're not a marlins hall of fame Rice. Who you are and I would say first ballot. Probably Marlins Hall of Famer, so let's say that we have a marlins fan that were constructing rate, and only five people can get in one man dravis in be Jack mckeon because put all his. No, so it's GonNa be Jack mckeon for the manager. Who would you put in your Orleans Hall of Fame First-class? throwing. I mean my low. Jeff Kona. If Mr Miami and this I mean unbiased like best first. Basically I've ever seen in my life. Dear Lee sides like he was so good like he underrated guy like yes airway. I mean he's really like I know. He blocked because like all physically, but man. This guy we wanted probably about ten games on his defense alone. He's he's. He's demand JP. It was a crime that that outings all is never won a gold glove like him and Casteel were one of the best double play combinations that I've ever seen. And he never got the credit. He deserved defensive. You Know I. Got No fans for down here, so was I was so glad from in the world's series. The him at Louis got just do because people saw how good they were. They were like and these guys. They make these plays like every day like you should see what they do in baton at. That wasn't real treat. EARN. Allied kitchen the volume Kikuchi. are only warrior thoughts on how ridiculously that Marlins outfield was designed. Football. Thematic lights were like football light light now Novi. I've been to the hard rock now, but he's like. His. Job Bacon a football I know this probably not need to be record, but like I'm going all but I'm like when I went in there and Dug out work. Even when they played in the back in the day, you can still see the baseball yet in off and now it's like Oh, you know. I mean I just feel like even at a at a football stadium in that little triangle in the Bermuda Triangle is the point of that triangle I feel like it could have just been a straight wall. They're. Just a mess, you. while. You're. Eating about that, but it was. It was a weird constructed being, but we love I love everything about role, player or rock Joe Robbie, whatever it's called a we really embrace playing there as as a team well, we thank you for joining us today. 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"Talk. Majok. Jericho's the pot of thunder rock and roll, and here we go with the duct mccague joke of the week. Chris Jericho. I'm. Actually in Los, Angeles now. You know I just heard you I said two civilians don't like Jehovah's Witnesses. Go. Like any witnesses you know what I'm saying forget about the. Duff's. Forget about IT I. was amazing bringing the laughs every Friday though he is and sometimes bigger than others I liked today's joke though and thanks the duffer never letting us down keeping US entertained for years now three years actually and not even the coronavirus stop the Duff mccague in joke of the week and thanks to the Corona virus we have the Winnipeg every Thursday night at nine pm Eastern on my Youtube Channel and facebook page and this week it's all about your wrote moments we've got do crazy SPIVAK's chasing after stolen strike. A running with Duff mckeon and the story about one hour tsipras drinking at the red. CACTUS that ended with her ROIC wingman saved from Dave can see it now on Youtube Channel on facebook. Come laugh with the Winnipeg over at the Saturday special tomorrow night at our regularly scheduled time nine am eastern on facebook live and youtube come have a drink with me bring your suggestions. For the Song Sing along the questions answer whatever you want me to answer to have a great time social distancing together Saturday special tomorrow nine PM Eastern on. Youtube and facebook live right now I got a women's champion Thunder Rosa shed a hell of a debut and dynamite last week a great match against Serena Deeb Got Serena signed actually I believe and then at another great match challenging aws champion Shida for. The title at all out on Saturday and she's back on on dynamite as well. coming up very quickly. So very interesting story for her she was just arresting Fan would full fulltime job as a social worker or a lot of troubled kids in foster kids gave it up to pursue wrestling as she's been to Mexico Japan all around the world. Let's get started with Thunder Rosa right now talk talks Jericho. Right, so Few hours threes all out, here aws matches. Under Rosa Sushi that? which is really cool to have here because it's like something that I find that we've done a few times. The kind we have, we have a lot of Rephrase. That we have no problem working with other companies says, some isn't really exist a lot and rusty now. So it's great to have you here because you are working with Nwea or that sort of thing. So. CD walks in. US. How this happened Awa first then they ask them. Oh my dates and I was I can't work anymore the place because I'm signing with endo so I went to the chain of command they worked it out and Yes in I mean I honestly wasn't expecting. Ed. Until I got the phone I got a text message and then I kind of figure it out, and then I got the phone call and then they're like, oh, you're going to be an all out and I'm like, okay, he did anybody else. We wanted to be a long long I'll do it I don't care. So he was just like that buddy bills feels really good that. Like in my personal career like I always waited for people to see my talent nc what I'm all about before I start sending emails in asking asking asking I want people to see my heart work, and then they're like I think she's will be right for a company worked for for us to work with our. So that's what and I was really happy about it. So was was how long have you been working for NBA for? It's GonNa. Be. A year September Gajah. You'll do we. Obviously. You're excited but were you thinking like? It's a pretty special deal to be champion versus champion in this day and age, right? Yeah. Especially for women's wrestling. History of the NBA. And other roommate has gone to another company to to like fight another champion. So it's it's a precedent you know and and all about I'm all about making history making a difference in the business and I continued to it either by luck or just by you know just see it happens but that's that's so Russia's lot of luck involved. But if you're ready to do and I've been I think I've been ready for a long time but I I mean I met you like what or five Four, years ago. Yeah, in Japan. Brand spanking you and just like, and now the difference I see it and it's just like, wow, and I get to work with you again and I get to work with a bunch of people that I work before and company. So it's It's like it's about time which your? Thoughts on on backstage and the whole atmosphere here in aws very chill very very chill It's very different for all the companies that I worked before. So in what in what way I don't know. I. Don't I see. You know what it looks underground like five different writers. And here like everybody's GonNa like doing their own story stories, not like right. Okay. Here's the story. This is what you need to do this we need to convey and that's here's completely different and so I think I'm here before encouraged to use their creativity and pitch it in and see what what you can do and I think that's great skill for anybody to half because if you want to do something different going to create your own company, you know how to book stuff you know how to write the stories and things that will make sense for you or for the fan. So I think that's pretty cool. It was cool to actually see you work last week with with Serena. And you guys had like a real critically acclaimed masters. This morning somebody tag me about Jen Cornet and you know Jim Cornell. Wrestling He didn't have nothing to say, Oh, well yes, I was. Okay. But I really thoroughly enjoy putting them matched together. Serena has. Wonderful Energy like she's she's been very one of the very few people that I connect the right away. I never met her before I've seen her work. I actually her when I met her first thing I said was I drove seven hour seven and a half hours from Oakland to Los Angeles to see you wrestle with Melissa because I knew he wasn't going to have a technical they had a twenty five minute match and the whole entire time I was like this is how we wanna look like when I start wrestling and that's what I've been striving for. So I said that and then we'll just kick it off and it was like when we were talking about it it, we're just flowing. It was naturally it was in like sometimes you'd like with some people like. This be over like now, and with her it was just like fluid. He wasn't like I want to do this nobody i WanNa do this. He was like just this have fun. Let's kick as match, and that's what we did was a big match for her to because we haven't seen her on the national stage for years as well and I'm sure a lot of people have never seen on on the national. Stage show was big for both of you guys and I mean I'm still getting tagged on instagram twitter all the stuff I mean it's been. It's been big in. This is what I been wanted to do for a long time for people to see the talent that I have and the thing that I can bring to any company 'cause I work with four slowly fifth company. And pretty much everywhere except wwe so. It feels really great. It's only been four years that you've been working now six six years but you said you were brand spanking new. That's a lot of places you've worked in such a fairly short time. Yes. Yes but His luck and people see things people talk about and by a thunders. She has ego. She'll. She'll come and do the job, and that's what I do and I, just like to have fun and I think that's the last year. That's what I've been doing just having fun and enjoying it because you never know like injuries happen all the diamond is going to be over and covert happen and that's when I realized like I have to have fun I have to enjoy it. I have to make the best out of it because if I wanted to live out for wrestling. I can't do it in the ring for forever I mean you I don't know how you do it ICU and I'm like, Jesus. Christ wrestling and he still looks good. You know. But I don't i. don't see myself wrestling after like forty. One chill and and do other stuff. Maybe have my my own company with women and and do it that way which I do have theat. Lots to talk about here but let's just go back. But how did you get into into the business in the first place? I was a social worker and I was very depressed very depressed. It was very depressing job. So we found India wrestling and my husband is a big big wrestling fan. And he took me till the indy shows and it was it was just like fun stupid we. Oakland and put slam I used to watch slam every every first of the month, and then from there we went to a w in hayward and that's one Oh crap like this is real wrestling damn like this guy so good and there was a tryout and my husband's like you should try it and I'm like dude I, never done sports in my life like you're crazy. He's a non going as for the day off and see what happens and I remember doing the tryout in being so much pain and bumping which I didn't know how to bump and. Fourth place on the and the place if you won, you could get like a scholarship by I. Get it. So I went back and was like I. Think I'm GonNa Start, training in the gym. I I'm going to get in shape and then I'm going to try it again and that's what I did in. I was GONNA heavy at that time. We both lost a lot of weight together. Then got I signed up, I pay upfront because he was supposed to university. And got a bunch of scholarships. So I used the scholarship money to pay for Brussels. Is it. Dalia. So I spent a very short time in Hayward It was called Bay area wrestling and it was run by GEICO woody farmer and Shane Croft was his son this years and years and years ago. So I know the Hayward. Area. Enrolling Alexander One who's running the school. Okay. The famous role knows beyond the best way, right? Yeah. That's what happened. He passed away and I lost all my money. How woke is he didn't have anything he died in. The school close to use the money for his on stuff and there was nothing no refunds no nothing. Now it's. Over the school now really no surprise someone didn't try and Yeah I. Remember we were on Moaning after they remove his body from from from the apartment in a bunch of us. Now you don't WanNa ask that question but I had to ask the question 'cause it was you know that was my future something that I invested money in there. So what's GonNa to do school? Nothing, it's gone. Sorry guys. There's no money and it was like. How much you paid three thousand dollars. Wow. Yeah. And you weren't ready to start going out and working on your own at that point or no I mean that was like I was just about to start training. Span, I waited a whole a whole semester to start because I was not in shape. I cardio nothing and I wanted to be ready to get in the ring 'cause I always have mentality that I have to. Out Work everybody because I'm wrestling with I'm not wrestling with. And I didn't want guys to be like. Well, you know she's a girl. Standing nothing no, I wanted to like show show them off, and that's what happened so. One of the I went. To Hood Slam trained there for a little bit but he didn't feel like the right fit and then I went to AP w Gold Rush boot with sparky valor he opened his school in Pacific Bell Brothers not the. Rollers. Are In la. But I use it turn with them like later on drudge. But they opened the school with former student for AP W and there were Matt Carlos and Dylan, drag were original trainers. So is going there for times a week after work and that was it was very challenging but I was ready. I was always ready. I was the one I run everybody. Bush. That will do more pushups than all the guys I was at never never crying never because I was like because my husband was used used to come with me and he will see me crying and he'll look at me and he's like, don't you cried in front of those guys if you're in pain crap at the House here you show that you're better than everybody because you're a woman. Crap just get that in your head so that really helped me get the mindset that I. have to make sure they treat me equal equally no matter because of my sex they equal and that's how we all the girls that I work with now and I tell him that you have to gain respect because i. mean think about this business is male dominated males make decisions or make decisions on what you're GonNa do but you have to show them that. 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Now got to go to be lazy or was doing that heard Lionel's I. Yeah I'm work because I'm training. So I went there and they're like all the girl that was supposed to wrestle she is hurt Can you can you wrestle like been training for ten months? Of course? I can. That's what I said but it was a squash match I was like five minutes my my gear was horrible of course. As it should be and but it was really fun because I still have pictures from from that night and there's one final specifically he all he has a picture profile pictures ever since I started wrestling. So after this game out that I was in w posting that I remember the first time you wrestle so. that. Was it. And then from there on, I had about ten matches and then I went to Japan. Stardom that you were there with yes and did you live there three months? Yes. I was that man that was that was the first time. I left the country America or Mexico really. Yes. For some you've ever been out of of the country now I was it was incredible. It was like it was a culture shock you come with a mentality of how things are in America where Mexico and then you go there and you start seeing things and I'm like and you when you don't know your star being judgmental. So one of the things for me was like how they treat women. and. Men Our. Written with. Women have to be very polite and they have to be a certain way. They have to dress a certain way. They have to be very cute wii and I was just like I. Am that nothing like that. So it was, it was hard for me to like formulate why should not be judgmental of their culture? You know none of my second tour that I came with a more open mind and I said Oh this is very you know. Very Americanized. So I should not be judging them how to treat women they're they're behind of course, but that's their culture was like you said, that's their culture as long as they're not. Treating you like that. There's really nothing more. You can do. You know what I think also that experience showed me like first hand being women, of color in that having the attributes that I saw on the stars that we're from America like big boobs suit blonde hair that I wasn't going to be pushed. That I, came I came to do the job in that was said in Japan yes. Yes. So I was like all right I see this okay. I'm going to work even harder to like make a name for myself and that's what. Drove me insane after after their after I was there for a month. I got a concussion and I didn't work for a month. So I didn't get paid. So you know you work and you get paid if not you don't so I was like struggling. Wow. Yeah, and then I brought you over they weren't paying. You know because if you don't work, you don't get paid. There's no like. There's no guarantee that you work when just come over and live here. Pretty much I say they give you a couple dates but if can make the dates you don't get paid is like. Yeah it was a strange well. That's that's women's. Who else was there? You mentioned this cross. WWe. Chelsea she's wrestling chased Chelsea diamond that is not wrestling anymore. She was like the Blonde girl from Michigan Florida or something. Then she was a big star in everybody. Loved her. Cute kind of girl next. Door. Type Look. Nineteen tonight all the guys were. Cheddi she always remember running. Say She shitty she as they can. They can say the. The is super popular and then star fire. She's a Mexican wrestler. The girls were there because we went how even working in Saint Karaoke. I ended up being there for like ten days. Then she's like you want to hang out and I was like sure and then winters friends of the woods. To the Karaoke points got, it was a fun. It's interesting. So that was the crew that you were with for like. Three months. Wow and Chris Wolf I don't know if you remember. Will I do? Yeah. Yeah. She's retired now. So. What would you do there if you weren't working for three months like I don't remember being. Actually. I. Used to go out out a lot like to the park in like. Anywhere that I cannot be in the because I I get bored. So I did a lot of that and then I made a lot of friends by me out and I have to pay for anything. So perfect. That's is survivor like a month and a half and the last month. I, worked in and everything worked out and I make sure that by the time I was coming back to America like my name was hot and I was just working like crazy you know make a lot of steam if you if you work in, does that have a lot? Value here in the states it did definitely did but I think you have to make your name value because I could have gone there and like completely like disappear. Thousands on my God listened isn't that in that you know and then like keep working with them and then they brought the stardom show to America, and that's when I got scouted by Lucianne grow in that one will shows stardom tour, of America, just an La Gajah shoe yet three and a half three shows and I remember when they had the shows I was driving to La passing flyers for the show you know 'cause I wanted to come and see me because I wanted to show the the booker that I can actually sell tickets and I can put you know sit down sitting there so I can also be a star on my own way I did a lot of that in the last show. I think I brought like forty five people to the show. There's a crowd of. People two. Hundred. Three hundred people. Twenty percent of the audience. Yeah. So I mean I work my ass off to do that, and then just doing that in you know then Lucianne around happen. IRS under the hood escort moon and that's when I like I learned that when they give you. Four TV you got, you got it perform he just has to like it doesn't matter how green experience you are. You have done if you don't have the skills you better than learning because they're gonNA they're gonNA fire and fire you and find somebody else is better than you. So I mean working with so many veterans I mean I was working like rainy stereo man make a one I like digger arose Who else was there a bunch of? People Rico Shea? Pretty big roster for awhile very talented Ross was amazing I mean I will just be on the apron looking at the guy splitting their matches together and I'm like man this is pretty dope like actually learning from the best of the best you know and. I'll ask questions who everybody I will like as the your doors from aaa to teach me stuff you know, and that's how I started learning and a lot of times like I will come early and then trained with a Ballard's and I tried to lead the Santino brothers with Lucia brothers so I can I can learn this style so I can perform better in China Ron and he taught me like said, he taught me so much dummy cameras. He told me about how to cut PROMOS, how to do like yet become donald confident even when you have not Norsk whatsoever, you know. So it was it was really good. What was your name their Cobra Cobra Moon that was under a massive. 'cause idea of Lucia underground it was kind of. Cinematic but it was it was it was a television show like a TV series. Somebody was very cinematic cinemax well, yes. Because you will have your vignette and that will link into the match. You know. So that's why that's why will still used to because we have a producers and we'll have the writers. Okay. This is trying to tell this match that is going to follow after and it was like super extra Super Outta like out of this world, a lot of the guys I will talk into Pentagon in Phoenix and I was like you guys remember all the stuff that you guys used to do when you on the grounds like, yeah that was like. Trying to out work each other it was like such a competitive place to work, and I think that remake me like be more competitive and be better in like just really get to a point where if I wasn't already, I need to be ready because all these guys I, mean, they've been wrestling fifteen twenty years they they're stars in their own countries and then they come here and I'm just like, Hi guys wrestling year and a half. Of A big. Pretty a pretty big story. So yeah just learned so much was it was a Lotta Fun, would you guys to match? Would they like Edita matches or? To be more. Yes. Well, the matches were edited I mean if you mess up like they will, of course ups but usually there were a lot of watches in there like the guys went all out and they met a work what they edit it was like they. Put so much ten like we look. So tansel dark he looked sold dark. But. Other than that the cinematic parts we practiced, all are fighting scenes. We had fighting saints also, it was really cool stuntman to teach you. Yes. I. kind of Hollywood elements, everything everything the sets we had I had my own set I had a a throne they made up the wrong and the carbon in everything. Oh, my God it was like one of the coolest things ever. Then my my dress when I was dressed queen was like out of this world and. What was Kuru moons? Gimmick I was his name. Like slithering in the and there, and I always get on the robes and the went about just ridiculous. And it was littering auto emissions. That's what they want me to do. A lot of people like so stupid is a gimmick now like. The idea of the place everybody had a character outlandish your personality, whatever it may be source, some of the stories that you had underground. Outlandish. I don't know I remember like. I, remember when Ricochet in rabies stereo had their match like I. Remember you have to match everybody in the back was like crying. Like he was perfect. It was perfection. Funniest. What would a? Historical Classic Dream Match. That is yes and it was so good and then like other ones. Oh. Man When we have to like tape until I one or two in the morning. Like the fighting seems like there was one my first one I remember this guy was like, can you please keep you please kick me in the Chin so hard because I didn't know how to do stunts and People go superlight always kicking the crap out of him and he was so mad about it. He's like and you stop doing that. What I'm doing But. What else that a lot of inter-gender Gender Russell's yes? Yes. Yes. I remember there was like Mando used to do some crazy stuff to like. I. Remember One Time Jack Evans broke his jaw. In, one of the. VEGGIES. He's might broke his jog. He's crazy like everybody was like I said everybody was absolutely crazy i. mean there was also I sometimes they were just drama in the back and I always happened to be there when the drama was. And so people used to get in fights, you know just like Oh my God, you guys need. It was the kind of like a crazy kind of contract where you sign up for like nine years or something we were signed for five five years or seven seasons all of us all of us, and then we have to get out of our contract. I they wouldn't let anybody out now but there was only blower they're going to do with us. They didn't have anything for us. So a lot of us I think it was like five dollars went to the. What is actually lawsuit. Class. Action. Lawsuit, and then that's how I got my contract. So did you ever? Did you ever work in Mexico one time one time not unlike after Japan, I flew myself to Mexico and I worked in the indies. With with a female promotion which I will tell you that really humble me big time and what were. The women that wrestle in Mexico they're not like your garment. You'll have the car new all your friends like we had to take metro than the Metro to take a bus, and then after the bus will have to take another bus. Then we'll arrest on this big arenas that only ten people were because respect women's wrestling out there. And then some of US got paid on the girls got paid a dollar, a thought and soda. And they have to come back and do it again and they have kids they have jobs. You know it's it's insane like that sacrifice women do and Mexico and just a wrestling it's it's incredible and again equality there. It's if we complain about quality here in the speak-out won't women and make you go speaks out. Oser. Yes. I'm surprised that you never went to like a triple a. a similar. But. That's the only time that I actually ask is why when are you going to remove were boy and? I. Always hear that soon, you know I never asked for him allow which does one of my one of the things that I want to do before I retired I, WANNA wrestling at enemy equal. So you're obviously you're Mexican. Did you grow up and? I will grow I was born and raised in two hundred. Yeah. So I came here when I was seventeen Gotcha Gotcha diversity one, one time one time all my family was there is like the funny thing and then we went eight tackles and I got really sick. Sick Oh my God. Yes. Horrible. Report tacos, and they're not cooked correctly site ready ready to say. Did you ever have any Anything with WBZ. Now, the only time that I was gonNA, get a tryout I asked one of my friends I was this is. Transitioning from underground. Doing anything I was getting tired of just like doing indies and just grinding it gets tiring very tiring in the work. Yeah. Because you have to constantly be traveling like some of the matches make sense and you're doing it because you know that's make a living in a call. One of my references add honestly like are they hiring graphs like Aref I don't care I just need a job in and then he was like, yeah. Let me ask him and he asked I, Wisconsin did they told me how much paid and they were like we're going to send your information here's like your stuff they send me the flight and everything then Dorian the hurricane during happened my stuff started getting backed up back. Then I was already toying with the idea of doing MMA gone combating America's contacted me and I started training in June by the time ww call me WHO's Very. Last week of August and go by the Americans were like you need a sign the contract now because we need to start announcing that you're gonNA fight. And I'm like and then I was like okay I don't know what to do and then that started happening and I was like maybe this is a sign that I'm probably should not go to do for reverie. You know so I was like I I told him that was not interested anymore. Thank you for the opportunity I signed a contract with combat the Americas. For my I may fight, and then they call me like two days after you want to be like sure why not? Emma me. So we're Kinda training shift to do what kind of training the fight go. So I thought, he was going to be a great transitions inside Didn't work out that way. They humble me at first week. I was a Brazilian top team in San Antonio they're like okay. So we're GONNA put you in the cage. We do this thing called charting. You'll be fine. Just don't give up in article first thing. Big comes in double-leg. Take takes me down forms the just there's wailing on me Bam Bam like I can't breathe I can't breathe then thirty seconds another girl comes gets on top stars wailing on me too. I put him you choke and I can't breathe and they're like, no, this is it going you've got five more minutes and I'm like literally five minutes of getting my ass handed to me which the mindset behind that because. They want to see if you wanted or not. They WANNA see that if you're going to get into a fight, this is exactly how you're gonNA feel when you're tired this is exactly the feeling that you have to fight in order to win you know and it was pretty crazy I just remember having this girl and her but was on my chest and she was trying to put me on a triangle choke and I'm like holy. I just I'm GONNA top out and you tap out in get up and they don't care they keep going down again and it's just like they just WanNa, see also where you at in terms of life skills if you can defend if and also if you have, you know the heart do this because fighting is not is not for everybody you have to be built at a certain way and you have to have a mindset that you know that you're there to kill somebody you know and So that happened in that was for despite I was already I had bookings a haunt our time. You know. So bear in mind I, never had any strike experience I was a white belt. Away Belt. Yeah Yeah I've been doing to four maybe like two and a half years on and off. So I mean I'm. Wrestling I know how to do stuff. But I mean technically wise. I wasn't very good. So it was an eye opening experience like I was getting my ass handed all the time and then they way cut. It was rough excel traveling a lot and you know when you get into plane like you, you get bloated and stuff like it was like I. Remember when we were at psych in fact, number was timber is to work for while in Los Angeles and it was like a whole week. I had a had twelve matches. Wow and I have to come back and train and I was my back was shot and like I remember training doing you did sue. Getting out of class like crying because I couldn't move I couldn't move. and Um last three weeks it was like drilling and drilling and drilling, and like constantly like being put in very uncomfortable. Like, you know just learning how to like just learn how to strike there and how to move and and my opponent was. Pretty tall she was like an Amazon Mike I'm like isn't that like six inches taller than me? Her range was like seven inches longer. I had no clue how to cut angles. I, had no clue about nothing. Why goes like really seriously got in there like she ain't GonNa Knock me out Chang GonNa make me eat out. We're going to go distance and that's what happened and on the second round. First ranching dominated second round I was going out feel more comfortable. The last part of a second round. She took those only time. She took me now and she was a purple belt. She's been doing it for six years. You know and she put me down she put me in What was it? Really bad position. She was on top of me and she gives an elbow and my face and I started like bleeding like crazy and I got up and I re-. I. That's the only thing. I can tell you I can remember pretty well, I got up after the Bell Ring and and just saw red and everybody I just heard like. Because the blood you know and I said down in my coaches were like, wow, and they're like, why am I, doing well, I wasn't even tired either. Doing well, and they're like, we didn't know you were going to be like such a dog. You just don't care. It was like, no, my my husband, my family all my fans are here. I cannot get beat up. Other people like wrestlers have tried it and they get. Destroyed on the first round. You know and different type of cardio. Completely all man it's it's I was doing. An hour of cardio every day then conditioning class I was sue striking and some of the day's will do three hours in the evening hours in the morning you know baronies leaping doing all the wrestling that I. It was insane I don't even know how home in. Three rounds but the last round, that's what I think the one that I enjoy the most because I feel more comfortable. Did you do you feel that you were Ready for this I fight the grew trained enough to. That's kind of where they would even put you in that position. You, sell tickets. You know let's be honest like a lot of the people when they want to do crossovers like the the promoters they see money you know they don't. They don't care. That's all I. Care About is yes. You sell them tickets you know and and that's what I did. But I also gave a show I wasn't gonNA get my ass. Although he kind of looked like that because I didn't landed as many shots should have because I was in feeling comfortable. You didn't know how to do certain stuff but you know now I know in now I've been trying a lot more because I was starting to get a better I of my Jitsu get better you know but on top of that. I have all my responsibilities. My job is as a professional wrestler and you know so I have to like leave the training sometimes and focus on on my job because this is what he's bringing to the table. You want the the are again because they stopped the fight because of the Cova, right you know that's what I'm going to start getting like super. More why I'm contracted to three Georgia. So you got a good payoff at least to do to do it. These. Would have been better if I would've won. That's how it works. If you win, you actually get more money get. Yeah. You get double. 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So different I've done studio wrestling but. Yes yes, and the store the stories I we're trying to tell matches a resort of go to point like people are there easily understandable and I don't know I just like I really enjoyed and even watching it and on on Youtube and the transitions and the editing was really old school and Definitely we had a really good scheme going going into two thousand and twenty and then covert happenings three. BILLION A lot of passion to for for the business. So he wasn't going to give up until he came up with something that he. was making sense to him and somebody regular and you said it absolutely right. He's very particular about what his vision and how he wants to see the product does he doesn't want to have an indie show. He wants something that he has the market value. You know I mean he's a musician he's done so many shows and he wants them a certain way because that's his you know his last name you know, right? Sure of course is representing him too so. He's been very kind to me and and. He's the one who who talked to Tony Kahn and do allow this to happen. Who Do you work with an interview as far as like. The other women? Ardell we had Molina there Ashley Boxx Camille. Who else some of the girls are. Now some other places Tasha's she's now TNA or impact. Sorry. coils a roster. reasonable. So you win the title from Alison Kay. The twenty minute match was up twenty minute match. All right. Yeah. Was it a classic for you? and. That's like another one aspect like I earn it like you finish and not could not move over Holy Shit linebackers Is One of those things like I actually Watched it a couple of days ago on like at the elemental night I'm crying because I'm like I remember like the feeling of like a man that I that I had I like having the title in my hands like it's such a historical title you know and the women that have been before me and that have you know, pave the path for us and like knowing learning the history not only just going on wikipedia reading it actually reading into and more research is like, wow, like there's a lot more work to do and women's wrestling and in every single aspect because again even then from nineteen thirties when milk. It was dominated her husband. He was a one run. Yes he was the one running the show you know. Enron. And you don't WanNa know the speaking out stories. Yeah I mean they they had a deal. You know like which he was he doing and she was only her thing too. So I, mean. It you know it was a time but I. Think it's it's two thousand and twenty and I'm very ended about nineteen very outspoken about bottom but now is my generation. I'm representing you know. Of like very strong minded female wrestlers that were before me and I wanNA represent with being positive being positive role model and And just to show what women's wrestling is all about. Well, I mean, that's the thing I. It's cool that you respect the history of that because it goes back like you said, almost one hundred years at this point so I think it's pretty specific deal. It is a big deal I mean. Titles, and you're like as just the title like this is not just the title like this. This title like name is in there I am there for for the history of wrestling again delays oldest hill you know like and my name is going to be there forever even Pablo's the champion only one day my name steeler but I've been blessed that I still champion. But I want people to remember me like Oh she use. This platform to. Elevate women's wrestling in her era. You know that's why reliever after the speaker revamped, he used to have a small promotion, Texas my husband, and I a friend comission progressing revamp it, and while we're doing now is we're running a a show that is run by women. Ninety nine percent of it is women and production. Camera. Ring announcers, commentators sater's everything and mission mission pro wrestling. Yes. and And we also like a lot of people don't like this week great. Another other area of Michigan progressing custom matches which before like. Sexual I was like well, we need to pay for the show you know, and we're creating jobs, believe it or not. A lot of girls anger is get pay more money doing customs and doing regular shows. Let's explain what customs or so custom sars-like technically fan they have they wanNA booked on match and we have a lineup and they they're like the book is Magin so they give us a script. Our our talent, follow the script and they get the video to the. So it's very simple. It's been done for years you know and we respect our talent. We don't do anything that the town doesn't feel comfortable with and it's mostly pro wrestling style like we don't do There's a lot of like fetish and there's a lot of other stuff that we can get into for another for another day. Do. They do A. The people that they want you to work somebody's foot or something like that I am my hair the hand back through the sexual connotations. Yes but but we don't we make sure that our our. Our staff staffer are telling feel comfortable and it's Inter gender and it's also like just female. So. That's interesting 'cause I actually know. There was a girl that lives across the street form of friends and in her garage shoe customs Lexi Fife I, think the legacy. She helped so many girls but said when they were coming from other countries that will they will get work with her you know and they will make you know pretty good. Pretty Good Buck. They will go home and they didn't have to work regular jobs. So I mean I mean producers like her. He really help us to get to level that we want to get because a lot of us don't want to have a regular job because I will you know be not good for what you're trying to do I mean if I WANNA if I've been trying to train trying to do this and I want try one, I want to have a flexible schedule you have to do what you have to do. And we'll now things are different. So you can have your patron you've have only fans, I mean there's a lot of other sources of revenue you can create and you can continue to work on your dream job so. It's interesting. To me like it would seem really hard to follow a whole script for a custom like every single move. Yes it's super easy like we make it as possible. Have a board when we know the girls are now very doing that we'd like have the war there like they. Do. And I know. So another thing that I know girls or the guys, this is a perfect place to come and learn how to sell. I think people don't know how to sell, and some of the stuff is just beat up. So just getting Bwi, he's gotta sell you know. So I learned a lot on selling doing doing this stuff and I enjoy it I. mean now I'm a producer you know we produce and edit and everything ourselves. So I mean it's it's a good business and again I I WANNA help my my girls and in the state of Texas and the girls have come for my shows you can have extra money when they come you know this the. Laurie. Now is hard times. Men's very hard times. A lot of people lost everything. that. In the Cova era, you know we're all fortunate that we're here working today, but you mentioned something a as far as being in the business. You can't go work because there isn't a lot of shows how important is the twitch and the Patriot and the my only fans all that sort of thing is some that you've been focusing on a lot too. Now, I honestly haven't done patron or only fans I was focusing a lot on you do you do? Now is monetize, but it took me forever. I haven't done my my usual savings super busy but. I've done it for a minute and you you can make decent money by you know having at monetize and people like donate money and stuff but he's not like a constant source of revenue you have to keep going you have to have different ones and that's what I learned Along time ago like you have to have different sources of revenue in order to be successful in this business especially, if you want to stay independent or if you want to do your own thing because once you sign a contract so a lot harder. Like do what you WanNa do unless you sit down, you put it on your contract. You know because some people are like you can't do this you can do you can do that but I feel that if they're not paying bills and they're not offering you enough money, you should be allowed to do it and you should make sure you ask for it and I. Think. He took me years for me to understand and be vocal allowed it and certain stuff because you know it's the end of the day is my body is my life and this is my legacy is my future You know yes I work for your company, but I got screwed over with the Lucianne contract because I was so young I didn't know what I was. You know. So yeah, I got to be mindful when I saw another contracts did church. You obviously heard all of this but did you lose come off and were you working pre Cova vid? I wasn't working much because I was with NWEA. So you get your paycheck but. Contract with any yes, I am under contract but our contracts changed he and also we're not getting as much money as we used to win now. To, get more bookings outside of her are white, but you know, would you either? No so it hurt me. But thankfully, I am a pretty smart spender. So I don't spend a lot of money. So I had a lot of money saved up for any emergencies like this and look a pandemic. And, again, I'm not alone. So my husband works so that helps and we haven't heard for money and the pandemic me to really establish things that I wanted to work on like the custom matches grading my my websites on my website to like the first month I think so like. Almost two thousand dollars on my website St Yeah I also like just hustle was harder in now hustled all the time. Now, more than ever. Yes. I would imagine to your experience with doing the customs. made it not as weird to work in front of New People no that the that's what I'm saying like before like some people feel that they get so close minded Oh. That's weird. No is not like not everybody's doing it. When w started doing I was like this is this is exactly why we doing something right like every nobody stripping anybody saying anything. So. But yeah, I guess this when there's a need, you normalize things. You do you have to do? Yeah. Like you said, where did under Rosa come from and the makeup the half face came from. Extreme. They put makeup on me because they wanted me to like reach out out to you know community then I didn't like it. Then I got the concussion in Japan and my husband was like you need to get over something just put your makeup on. I had a match. Tag Match and I don't remember I. Think I got hit in the head really hard and like three days after I just got really sick I started feeling really really sick and then. The general manager there talked to promoting select you need to take her to hospital like now she is sick he called ambulance, and when I got an ambulance, I started throwing up and you got a cushion. So. After the whole month that I was out there, which cumulus on took care of me Hina was mine and my nurse recipes it was my nurse. How how was that for you when she was the sweetest thing ever horrible stories yes it hurt me like I want my my husband told me a kind of diet and I'm like I feel bad because one of my friends sent me a screen shot of the last tweet. One. Now, the last week the one before her last week, and it was her cutting herself Mike, her legs were cut her wrists where. Yes, it was horrible like I work with people like that. Before you said, you were associated with social worker in a lot of a lot of girls committed suicide gives committed suicide. So for me when I saw that. Didn't. Send her an. An Eugene message or a tweet I feel terrible when I heard the she died because I felt even if I said, Hey, are you okay you need to talk to anybody I'm here didn't say anything I feel really bad because she took care of me when I was like literally I lied because I was by myself because everybody went on tour and she went and came came and took care of me. You also what was she like don't tell us about. Happy she's always happy. Girl Super Beautiful last time I saw her I was I was telling my acting partner meal or Holly Dot. Her we're on the on the train and I was like I can't believe how beautiful she looks like she just glowing and growing into a big star because that's who she was before. She died like she went through this Netflix's show and she. She blew up and then all this ridiculous things happen. But yeah, it is really that she's no longer with us. Favorite memory you've of her. Every time we were like. Everytime, she'll be we've traveling we call each other. If somebody sees her whatever we'll be like you want to send that message to such and such Oh. Yeah. She'll be cursing or dancing or did you just she was just funny she was so full of energy and in life in. I never I never saw in a bad mood either never ever ever ever She was very honest and no filter no filter was a young. When I met her, she was fifteen and she just passed away. It was like twenty, twenty, one to. One of those people hadn't heard of now can't doing some research that she was poised to be. The next big thing whatever that means I mean, her mom really help her on. You know to create that starring than she just like with her persona with curious in my with everything else or like wrestling skills that she became you know one of our own. You know what? What happened with the she was on a reality, show a reality show and A. Lot of fans over there were like calling her a bunch of names and Mike. Literally trolling her from like. The he'll on the reality show or something there was an instance I want something happened and she she blew up like she she had a Tantrum. And then from there guys were got. Like nasty like really nasty told him, you should kill yourself. You should do this that are around on what he wants you I really really bad and then to the point where. This is one of the pandemic. So she was by herself in her cat you know and and I think. that hurt a lot in. And she just went through it and she couldn't get out of her head is what happened and then the worst part is. After this happened that guy that was strolling her made you video celebrating. Celebrating her death this disgusting terrible. Yeah. I'm sure that guy will be one where ship perform some will happen to them. I hope so and her mom has been like humongous. On trying to change you know the loss. Yes. Kim more is been throughout her grief and throughout all this craziness she's been trying to make a change and I'm super proud of her. She's one of the strongest woman I ever met in my life from through and through like went through trying to be. A professional wrestler, a single mother in Japan. To now going through this, you know and trying to make a change after like this terrible incident happened you know to. Do her daughter in I just saw post. It was has birthday think like two days ago. So I see still trying and I know she's She's going to continue trying to her last breath to change things. We got up to try of with talking about Hannah I'm glad that you. gave us some information about who you're talking about the makeup that you wear. It has to do with it. Okay. So, this one, I just did it because look good and then I got over in Japan. Then when I came back to America Mike Ankle who used to be a big wrestling fan came to that show where I got looked at with Lucianne room and he asked me so what do you who centre Rosa? He asked me the same question I was like just the generic answer he's like, no, I'm GonNa tell you the story. When I was eight years old I was in the WanNa with your grandfather we were watching because that's what we did. Every Friday. Your gun for grandfather got a heart attack while watching wrestling. I was on his lap I remember when he died. I never ever watch wrestling again do you know what? The day of the dead means right? He's remembering people that work here and remember in? This was meant to be you were meant to be arrested because he was in your destiny because if you ancestors for what happened because we used to love. Lucho. Lira and now you're representing. All of those who passed and you're bringing them to live in the ring that's thunder rolls ice, and now it's like. Okay. Yeah that's a good backstory for you. Yes, and ever since then like it's the thunder rolls size, it's a beacon of hope for for those that. Didn't make it like I worked with a lot of kids. And Group homes and some of them got murdered by the police, some of them committed suicide in before I started wrestling. I used to tell them about wrestling and how was it going to become a star and how I'm like I, was gonNA. Let nothing stop me from doing that just to like encourage them that doesn't matter what problems you have or what issues going through. You can still make it and There's been no cases in where there was one kid that I wanNA mention Oscar I used to work with him and his family very closely, and he got murdered by the police but when he was dying, he said that he was A. Warrior and I'm a warrior I fight for those who didn't make it. You know that's a great great motivation greatest nation. Yeah. That's why I never go give up. Chris like he doesn't matter how difficult things get or how much should I get or politics or like heartbreak I can't give up if I give up I'm giving up on everybody that believe in me and I still do that still to this day some of the kids that I work with they follow me on. Instagram the send me messages on how I continue to inspire them. Goal Workers people I lived Mexico people haven't talked in years like people that. They haven't really done anything in, inspire them to like pick up the weights to go and walk like changed their lifestyle because they see me working in grinding so hard and they see the passion that I have professional wrestling just for life in general. last few questions. Obviously you're excited about today in work in this dispatch Shida. Yes. have you had any? Have you worked with her before Japan anywhere. I. Saw Her in Japan performance times and I seen her on you doing stuff. So no, I have not just going to be exciting I'm really looking forward to it. I. It s going to be exciting and it's really excited. I am this is a combination of. A lot of things that I've done. This is the biggest thing I've done in a in a while and I know we won't be the just. Because Ones you grind and ones you like I said so many heartaches so many things and then you see this and you see your face. You see the? Like the last match on Wednesday and how people talk about it. I am very proud of all the work that I've done. I am very proud of all the sacrifices and me and my family have to go through to be here today in. The last you know what I enjoy every single moment coming to no matter. What happened today You know I know I made all of those that have been with me from day one. Very, very proud. Sorry I'm crying all real emotion. It's Inspirational an enlightening to see to see how us being here means so much you. It means so much to all of us like like I said I'm so thankful that we have a job still one too. We are giving people who have lost their jobs or have nothing to do are losing their minds to their lockdown. We're giving them a weekly. Beacon of light yes. Oh my gosh. The dynamite is coming up. So excited, you know I mean wrestling was my mind my my skate when I was working when I had a regular job. It was the thing that I look the most forward every once a month you know and and now people it's it's what I do for for them too. So it's men's it's super incredible and Being a female. And having that is not like because you guys like you always talk about Hogan and the Rock Or. Thunder Rolls I want to see the White House like Yeah Hell. Yeah. Man That's that's all about like I want people to see me as a as a wrestler. Now, that's a female wrestler as freaking Rustler as a legit Yep drawing wrestler. Yes and I just I'm GONNA put myself over there is like the are pretty high. Yes that's. All Impressions? All that man I guess business it's all about money and about if you can put buttons, eat if people are going to buy the paper view if people are GonNa tune in I, know all about that. I'm upper motor doing smaller scale. So when I see Scowl I see talent I see maybe I can work with our maybe we can do something and she'll be going to star which your goal for permission for your. Free really do want to teach. Our female wrestlers, A. Wrestlers. The business aspect of it and I'm just not talking about you know sell tickets I'm talking about how can you become your own independent contractor like your own boss in not having to work in a regular job and you still make money you know I have a lot of friends that have done that that. Now they have their own businesses in their wrestlers and like what? What would the steps that you took? Like perfect example, Medusa has been doing it for a long time somebody that I look up to and and she has different accent differences revenue and they don't really think about that. You know we get stuck in this mentality and was like Ame and that's it but there's a lot more to it and I mean I'm a perfect example of what you can do to become successful in to be independent in right. Plus question for you what's your favorite match that you've ever had? Besides the one on Wednesday I, we'll say. Definitely my match with Allison K. those. The title. Yeah I mean absolutely it's interesting besides the one on Wednesday how how important was that few to to have a great match on Wednesday? For. So many different reasons. Well, you know I I said it on the Promo I cut the first time. I came here to the women on notice in this company, and that's what we did. We had one of the highest ratings. In, Adl Eastern on in the women's. We were blessed. We're able to have some time for this match a the time a lot of time and people saw beyond our sex there were like, oh, my God decided like this was a competitive match. That, they haven't seen that you and and working with Serena again and feeding off her energy was absolutely great and it was an honor to be with her because she's such a great great worker, a great person and we just vibe. So welling I got out feeling really good about in. Yeah. There's some things that I would have done better for myself. But we're all critics about our work, but at the end of the day. My job was done I put the women's division notice and now people are super excited about. which. Is the number one job. I. Came here to do you know and we will continue to do that, and after today I I hope and I know vans and everybody else anyone is doing. They're going to bring bring thunder back to a w you know. Come back. I don't know. If the number is right. That's we'll do. Those. Awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you.

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All Beer Inside Episode 36 Part 2 - It's not about Quantity; It's about Quality

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All Beer Inside Episode 36 Part 2 - It's not about Quantity; It's about Quality

"Welcome to Sherwin Williams hi there I heard paints or forty percent off Yep and stains to right here only at your neighborhood Sherwin Williams door right now well July nineteenth through the twenty second right on right ask Sherwin Williams July nineteen or twenty second and see forty percent on paints and stains with sale prices starting at twenty three. Oh nine only at your local Sherwin Williams store retail sales. Only some exclusions apply see store for details. That's what happens to be speak with horse. Yes sort of injury everyone's left. I'd say I say side I say size of the heartache to in the views and opinions expressed on this podcast are solely those of the podcasters these views and opinions do not necessarily represent those the trending topics network and or any end all contributors to this all beer inside also contains foul language and his generally for adults so if you don't like anything we have to say thank kindly go fuck yourself with the bag Dix. I like I if there was a song I think in the fear when I I'm sad makes me now. There's nothing left you say so here Berry Berry so we're back for episode thirty six to the articles. There may be three depending on the timer running for this so we'll see it's middays as they see on dumb people down six P._M.. Is the three A._M.. Of Day drinking what is it swear we're going to drink are normal beers or are episode. Careers serve is I drinking drinking tarts U._p.. Pup Pup Pup Tari drinking your dog Berry bunnies. It's Bonnie <music> needs Ma bunnies. It's a blueberry beer five percents from from hop bid originally. I'll bet brian brewery that they actually made one in Quebec and more fiddle. It looks like finish finish off one of our earlier yes so gave me so I got a blueberry superstock on finishing stuff. It fits next couple episodes. Okay see money articulate that two years here one that good but here carp brought from skoko brewery. It's Black Raspberry thunders actually a big fan raspberry but not it's mixed with thunder bottle. What style is it? That's fucked up art. It's a milkshake. Bring all the girls to the yard to mention it. It makes no Simpson and it makes no sense. How makes no sense? It's absolutely delicious or go okay. I'm both dry that in the other one that I originally brought crack open after actually for you have fans out there it's rocket red l. uh-huh Auger and showed some more short officially for me number twenty five hundred unique on this forget to check in case seriously what what song was that made it up because it has to be a culture of our from running back twenty five hundred and you have waited English explain to people what this is because this is a big deal for you. So what this recordings on average I've had I've unique beer a day for to actually one thousand one. If we want to be day for twenty five I mean this so since I started doing my on tap check in as of my first to the recording today on April twenty seven that's two thousand has in two hundred and fifty five days. This is my twenty five hundred unique beer scrat- Dat Dat dat was the social circulation on getting ready to right so this is correct women in a cover band and not in a tribute band before he starts Talking Again Talk Twenty sixteen so this beers h three years. We're GONNA sing when he's about to drink aged in oak fodders fodder landers radio. It's what Europe's gold medal in two thousand fifteen Belgium's gold medal in two thousand sixteen and the world's best style winner gold in two thousand sixteen at the World Bureau awards is like so yet twenty-five long. This is really good taste. Seriously thanks five hundred twenty I four hundred thousand five hundred badges a round at red sweet sour. Hopefully it's good whole bunch of then at that time. Oh fuck it sweet sour rich. Oh it's all sorts of everything after a little bit but I WANNA kill it won't like it. I will like it somebody that will try to try it. Don't be Dick. Just wasn't one of your via Dick you. He leads through one thousand five hundred carpet. Oh Okay it's a shun PAG. Some bottle trade trump China has delicious. Are you okay. Hey there maybe state banging straight two years four thousand gallon of this is sweet and and sour taste anything sour man I can love it. This hour shows have this is real perfect belts so we got to Belgium at some point. If you go to Germany areas that routine if we go to Germany go your head shaved so you're already there as got given everything except for this little lies Outta here Ju- wow Oh wow that's a really good okay so tweets both from tweets Isabella of Our signs that WHO's actually wrong. What do at all of your incite? Where'd you get that dragging fruit beer so the jagged from beer you guys had last episode as well for the listener? Will you didn't answer the question of ups Malt hops which means we're forget which we're going exile. You're going for me. It's another tasting that meet Phil are going to in Verdone at multiple stuff very dying. Can you describe it was like a frigging depth. I went to the one dollars basically visit it's also it is but here's great never take pictures of liquid. You're missing school. Ah that actually I was seeing the needed new flavor to resolve. It just came out. They've got an actual pepperoni now too well. Let's like the proper. I want something like mad spicy from them. If fewer message done it'd be like hey there's the vice as one of the most spicy hottest kick is pepe which goes that one Asir Mexican one. That's yeah but stay spice that is one that US as well for MS listener. Dutta are Lipsey Lito Lo liver disease quote Lucy's quotas. She's quoting high adult school movies at your side. They get so thirty five also legit L._l.. At Release Airports W. T. F. Lee it's along volt last episode. You guys was not. I don't even know what has like the last episode you guys old school was like four listener highs and I was listening to the podcast and I was like really Liz. I was laughing. When you guys went release altogether the same time pushing parallel? I freaked out our show is funnier than your Dan. It's honorable quantity. It's about quantity vanish true so I'm gonNA saying I should like amazing fucking Beer News for Canada government of Canada eliminating federal barrier to interprovincial alcohol trade which doesn't mean a thing anyways technically because it's not sufficient and so what does this mean. Hey WanNa beer. I'm going to go online. I'm in order for BBC and it gets shipped in my house and a couple of days. That is nice to meet tells you. The problem is the stupid problems. We live in toxic. Yeah that's true so you're not supposed to for beer no but so from Canadian Beer News Dot Com Auto Ontario the government can it has nasty introduction of legislation that will remove current rule prohibiting individuals from ordering shipping alcohol across provincial borders on her book since Prohibition Wow sister we ought to going to say awesome Canadian Beer News. The candidate has nancy introduction of legislation that will remove a curve rule prohibiting individuals from ordering or shipping alcohol across across provincial borders as promised budget twenty nineteen the government Canada has introduced legislation which will remove the federal requirement. Take a break that alcohol moving from one problem do like better do the chocolate rain guides your mouth away some look. It's really see stick does the Netto version of that. Your Jordi look forward reading the book this all Audi process territories make their own changes in order for direct to customers shipping to be allowed across Canada except for Quebec. What if this for too long Canadians have been frustrated by the restrictions on the sale of Canadian beer wine and spirits between provinces and territories said the honorable dominant Dominic lib-lab minister of intergovernmental and Northern Affairs and internal traits? This guy's got three titles. He has those one salary one salary the proposed legislative amendment would remove the only remaining federal barrier trading in alcohol and the onus he said onus we'll be on provincial territory governments to change their own regulations paving the way for direct to consumer alcohol sales across Canada. What's stopping them from just letting the Canadians just be known old man is this is just people? There's people sitting there with absolutely nothing tied to beer okay. They don't drink beer. They're probably Weinstein no you don't get nothing beneficial to them and they're just holding onto whatever's in their bucket of laws that control finding a reason to try and monetize trying to find a way tax evidence much now. It's an ancient alive that never who's taken off the books and they're like really enforce. I mean it was deserves that guy who went from connection you Brian. We got hit hard but I mean on a regular whenever I go Ontario once numbering three hundred dollars because we've we've broken the law on exactly yeah it's not the thing is you can call it a lot so it's like you can be twenty states. Yeah right across and bring anything you want. I always even get your Plattsburgh word from fucking Tennessee and they don't care no I got near everything. Better worried comes from this. Just it's just you bought an old law that was never taken off which they're finally thinking about doing now. I get it like for Taxation Asian percentage of watch Uber Ground to four x Ray Burqa. It's called an amendment. That's how that works. They got some but I honestly to beat the devil's advocate I kind of understand the point where the hat devil to the point where it's like to them. It's all minors so why should they pay attention to it for us. That loved her nurse Minor. She's into Myers underage year her. We're waiting waiting for this moment to happen but that doesn't care for them. It's like it's so small that who cares if we amend or not or whatever you know we're going to do as my point no rights but why should he even think about it. If they care about beer they don't think they don't care about beer social but with the macro so Molson Labatt or embedded labatt even sleeping I and he's on some level you know this is gonNA open crappier from like I said I want to be your from from Caveat Beers from Winnipeg. It's safer people like asser still technically in the minority. I'm GonNa tell you why it's going the have trouble for the only reason it's routine amongst capitalism across North America and other countries where it actually exists the big name brands are GonNa come in and say to someone who's got control got money. They have say I if you if you allow this beer to be sold inside X._y._Z. territory we're gonNA pull out having Burris or whatever in your thing providing jobs bob lots to become a political thing and that's the that's what I'm worried about conventionally but I think they they're realizing that they don't have that much parore anymore. Like people that really love beer a really still away from the look at what happened to the entire like auto on the jeep like G._M.. And all these places that basically bellied up because they didn't have the government's basically said we're not going to support the ability that generate new revenue through isis is going to be through here and then they said okay we'll we're going to pick pickup and we're going to go back to the states and then thousands and thousands of people in Canada lost their jobs because right Fisher yeah I do see this opportunity. Nobody wants to start a good upstart with like a craft beer box or something like that. There's online online or <unk> orders ECOMMERCE simple yet. They're adding for us who were beer lovers or those earlier on. Even older who are into crappier can be amazing if this happens because you know sit sit there and this brewery N._B._C. A._B._C. and then I make I'm giving candidate posts. Money can post mucking charges like the asshole so they're they're. They're trump survive. Do they have a lot of territory to cover. I think it'd be amazing and I really hope it. It goes so that's free go to wait wait. He's he's might be out of office in a few months really all the archie snaking the grass shearer her and there's no good answer stated now okay so you guys watch superbowl back that Ury yes era here. Is Your Corn Syrah. Oh Hey cords ripley on STU totally light court loss to coors light. We're getting attacked by wind. Miller Gruber's has recently filed a lawsuit against Bush Super Bowl choices crews sewers occurs light maker called false and misleading is leading pieris according to the lawsuit filed on Thursday March twenty first bud lights advertisement that focused on Miller coors. He's shoes use of corn syrup is corn Sir Kevin Moran's Your fearmongering intended to costs irreparable harm to the company's reputation blowing quotes. I'll equality actually in addition to the commercial ran during this this super bowl ionizer Bush also put a bud light billboards throughout Colorado is big time Miller territory and Bush is fear mongering over a common beer ingredient it uses many of its own ears as deferment fermentation aid. That's not even presented. That's my present in the final product. This deliberate deception is bad for the entire veer category. We're showing the world the truth Miller Coors misstatement school pompa so L. There was a commercial so none of our audience. I'M GONNA post the youtube add on my own words. What did they T. L. D._R.? A Bit Bud light commercials tonight and it's like all she doesn't short short building lane bud lights like and also he's dead because of the game of thrones thing that's so they're like Oh Siro. I delivered delivered your Corser like ten guys. They bring a barrel corn syrup. She Berge collusion. Oh sure it in Bruce but it's no that all these guys use corn and current syrup too but they don't know they do this because there's so much of it yeah so what's the problem for mass production because you're saying their commercial I think so they're saying that they don't own room. Yeah real beer ingredients that they have to use the actual like that to brew. We actually your yes unlike answer. Here's the commercial but that's how stupid the states is that you can sue for that work with cancer so sit dereck attack literally direct attack on them. Okay I see the state we received are sending at this morning joking during the course like castle they also you scoring sir. It's you spent so much money as commercial well not just making but super bowl. Is this card serve yours clear with Corn Syrup. Oh I mean that's rough bud light but by Dhabi but Budweiser is so okay either way that's marketing. That's allowed. You're allowed to put up a brother of differentiator between you and somebody still take issue in like what took it yeah I wouldn't appreciate I wouldn't sue but I wouldn't appreciate anything. NYC hasn't done that should against the Dita's always fiancee's so what they do shoe. That's over. That's not over this over now. It's not there's all posted yesterday instagram with Adidas. What are you talking about so that's been this next hundred? I'M GONNA call what I'd love to do with moving on. That's over the art. We're starting to educate the masses on on Canadian stupid loss as the U._S. but because I know in Canada there used to be lower you could not directly attack competitor. I don't know if it still I think so valid they did they technically then oh so technically I know this for technically have it in the states but there's as you would imagine loophole city. There's all because you mentioned it. You can't show their logo and fatally a competitor here and then you list off some of the things that they've said assembly or did that ad will clearly sought said the name but that happened as you can go like I'll give all the automotive they go dodge that dodge okay better than Toyota they do. They showed like the graph of La. We have the better scores so it's very loose. It's like Oh. We won the automotive Blah Blah Blah this week. That company says they wanted then. That company says they are the addition from this company versus. It's add-ons try this and there's analysts that get paid to save what you want them to say and there's analysts that say we're GONNA look at everybody told the truth when when as I said don't trust ads. Can you put the All one side ad for the technically. It's true because it's like here's here's here's we know Celaya right there. Yeah 'cause rush. Residents use recipes rocklin still. She only occasionally puts the can you do a Roxanne Memorial certainly do serving us version of looks amazing. You got all the wrong word. Yeah whatever somebody did the articles what I want article car next ought to go from utilize dot C._o.. Dot You get what seventy four year old man has been on the world's longest pump crawl visiting fifty one thousand bars holy. Che's single question do spire to be him. I do by these okay. Let's I come to two point hairs less hair chain air. He's GonNa Whites. He's actually guy knows me but he's guys so eastern. Past loss can help talk ring Chai's many people enjoy Easter weekend with a few drinks in the sun or as I enjoyed them multiple Bruce and Ontario just seventy only no I tried seventy years I visited seventeen breweries and I brought home sixty nine different beers. That's sixty nine. That'd be glad to hear that a man who's completed the world's longest pub crawl leaves. Here is the secret to eternal youth move. He's done so he's not married. <hes> what's going to find that out. Let's continue Bruce Masters Awesome Coward. Stephen over seventy four has just been given a Guinness World Record visiting visiting her visiting for visiting fifty one thousand six hundred thousand nine hundred visiting for visiting for visiting six hundred five five in the U._K.. Over the years or he'd never left the okay how many in just the U._K.. Rich no but how you said fifty thousand one thousand six hundred ninety five in the U._k.. Over the last fifty years okay I got here. Look that up. I still awesome also may be considered like Oh. Let's say Oh this but we need to this. I wonder if that can oh no seem cool back to the same. I'm taking this position of the size I of Canada and the land mass and everything and U._k.. Is a little bird analysis. That's like because U._K.'s Germany Belgium France. No it's not your U._K.. The MEA is humidity. Kingdom signed now Jimmy Cheryl. There's more people in the U._K.. Then more densely populated and more so than I mean like we're still spread out. That's what I said. Yes thinks that's what I yet what he said. You're still talking about fifty thousand. That's a lot of minimum but if you hit them on did you hit them. All I'd have to saying fifty thousand pubs the world records for hitting Ireland Ireland Northern Ireland Scotland Wales and there's all the islands around yeah so it's the aisle so it's not Germany Germany now not stuff. That's so fifty one thousand in the. The U._K.. Over the last eight years so there's got to be like as because this now probably I agree or move across the street something like that. I put that on account it's a different. We'll have to find that. How do you count this? Let's see <music>. You're basing it off of a guy who's been around for fifty years saying that he's done this right. The granddad leases thanks to his level pubs and beer that many people mistake came for sixty rather than seventy four okay. He started his marathon pub crawl and was fifteen one applied. I just cost a show. Dr Is equivalent think about ventilation and everything yet well back then down no record dow no go now Dow oh he spent about one hundred twenty thousand euros on the crawl over the five decades says over the five decades see his daughters have asked him to slow slowdown. Bruce has no plans on stopping now still intends to visit as many as possible from Bruce when I asked people how old they think I am they're always about fourteen years out. It must be the good effective beer the preservatives three Majorca and leading ought to be a centurion anyway. I can't imagine how many piles I'll have on visited by then. I'm hoping to never stop some people. My Age aren't able to get around as much but I walk quite a lot when I'm out and about so that keeps me active too so Canadian my daughter's on sometimes say dad. Don't you think it's time you slow down a bit. I say no way what about the why defined what number I might get up to. I originally started not counting in Nineteen seventy-one. Remember the ones I done the from from nine hundred sixty the idea of this thing as many as possible occurred to me when funnily enough it says funnily. That's the word I was sitting in a pup. I decided that would would be my hobby there and then not many girls are attracted to steam engines after all as working for British rail. That's also an after work. I go and bullets a few areas of London being in London where there are six thousand pugs. I decided I want to make sense. That was my point deaf or right. You said fifty thousand there's no way there's that many Britain six thousand in just lended alone but that's still saying because that's that's the hub that's the hub you're talking about Scotland Ireland and what was the other place while the Ireland Scotland Wales Inglis England Wales The islands that are surrounding islands have much. I'm still trying to figure out how you get fifty because the islands have more. I guess I know Ireland is decent. I know Scotland actually has a ton of pubs lane. We're talking to Delta of like forty four thousand maybe look like small British town and within having a literal mile. There's twelve up's still not that's the math still doesn't add up so has every single talent city yeah mainly did though Maga's bruce was made decades of this like it's possible this we're Bruce was made redundant twenty years ago pretty big. Some redundant fired got fire your cat. We'll fire winning. Maybe firewood package so he decided he would devote more time to his hobby saying he's been on on my pub finding mission ever since he averages thousand a year old when I want that package and says it usually only has half a pint in place which sounds was while we're it's nothing hamish number. He wants to just hit the most. You just want to use wants this element. I mean look you WanNa do yeah. You're trying. We're GONNA be reading this some other podcasts. It'd be the extra neighborhood I mean always. That's the obvious the appropriate shave everywhere. sideburns segues are like so going from the U._K.. To Canada are what we've recently all the in Canada. The these are cool is stock on this podcast Canadian accidentally stole a car intently to slurpy run twenty one years later he wants is to apologize twenty one years while everyone has that one memory that still ways on their conscience years or even decades later what terror Kevin Friedman thirty year thirty eight year old governance consultant in a member of the Business Faculty the University of Winnipeg Manitoba involves a slurpy run and his stolen Ford Taurus epic. He's going for something though he's got a job now but that's what it is. He doesn't want people to come back doc on his Joe Finder twenty-one yeah. There's no twitter fee now. They don't want to find something. He didn't apologize for already now. Nearly twenty one years later he's launched a quest to find the woman he inadvertently wronged. Tell her that he's sorry toby. Laurie Navy view or Sword Hot August Day in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight Friedman then seventeen was working split shift at the Community Pool in Winnipeg. I was a lifeguard and swing okay earlier. That's every eight total. He totalled his car after crashing it into a cow that unexpected voted comedian. Okay sorry hockey farmland anywhere that's mid West. That's no different than tornadoes in Kansas I agree with the Kerr he'd still had an outstanding any parking ticket that he needs a page from his break and was bent to set off on foot when a coworker Joss Jocelyn McKee Joyce her car instead and bring it back the embry Magnus slurpy from seven eleven okay the line right Freeman told the Washington Post and I said Oh yeah absolutely Washington posts in the book slow news data McKee's car was light colored one thousand nine hundred four tortoise which was every second or Cisneros tourists like they've been there for awhile like not the Robo stop car now a tourist ticket every second or third on the road at the time Friedman said spot in a parking lot right away the windows were down in the doors were unlocked. The car wouldn't start at the first but he drove anyway with that. H Carbon start on the first dry but he drove away with them thinking much about it stopping to get money from an A._T._m.. Friedman return to the Ford only defined that went start. You've already been reluctant to borrow it. He told the post since he had never ever really driven anyone else's car without that being there but mckeon told him she trusted him reminding Friedman that they known each other for a long time now sitting in the front of the bank. Get nervously turning the key over and over again waiting to the engine turn. Nothing happened after few minutes. Friedman remembered something when he was leaving school he'd only been able to start the car after he put his seat belt on. Is this a screenplay for movie like what are we listening. Maybe reason with himself. There are some kind of new technology can read it like <hes> like this American Life Nice during the key and it worked leave. He drove to the police station where he planned to pay. Parking ticket. Building was located in downtown Winnipeg Pacific article. Do your illiterate had a month at sea or more considering the delays in releases look at night long after mckeon leftward Friedman noticed that her car was still sitting in the parking lot panic Iraqi guild he concluded that it must have damaged it so badly that she hadn't been able to drive home his coworker so he brought the car back and it didn't move this is Oh my God. Was this a story about Mary. Louise read it for do your hourglass area so posted on twitter as social network. I need your help to find someone whenever teenagers evolve denotes cert- situation that wanted to find the other person involved victim you see in the summer ninety accidentally stole someone's car and I had no so there were two tourist tours in the car into the wrong one. That's a good question his my from my first scarf that was from nineteen eight. Oh my God him built actually able to start the car without Keeney mission was because the keys like all those notches or Saturday right so this is nineteen ninety eight deputy litter so they do the terminator trick where just case think you're figuring I'd taken the stolen cartoon. Police stations had police help me get into the car and essentially I felt guilty ever since so he's actually cops like that's ballsy not so the Koran take even thought it was friends car yeah. He's going to pay a ticket in her car which was actually technically stolen cars for you and then went to another police station because he's having trouble at the car and the costs helped him start the car at the second. Please stay. That's what this time often enough. People will leave you right if they're like. I know this car. I don't know why it's not a they'll be like oh shit. Let's help you. That'd be same thing if you're I'm pretty sure you're often enough and he got a blackjack. You want to help me pretty sure I'm always remember this story that I read online once. Maybe it wasn't a newspaper back. Then we're two guys I remember Solo Oh well but they stole a piano Z.. Him this will be piano in the mid day in a museum. Imagine Molik on piano would be so heavy but but that was the thing right they were so confident president of this piano that just literally just picked it up and went in. Nobody questions are confident enough. You can get away with a lot of things nobody questioned them because they just literally picked up the fucking scrolling bought the age drug and brought it. I've got one hundred percents career ballsy and confidence white generally you pretty much get away and who would be stupid enough to steal piano in the middle of the day smart people. It is very heavy. We're GONNA we're going to try and kick start. It's on mass did one out of how one there is a whisper win. That's way to be waiting a pirate you hear the vikings all consuming levels stub. Your color looks preview of grown men jobs how of W UNION ACHES FOR Cup hearing to the constant. It's ready to Muse imporant shallows goofy and ready to have the joyful of one gross. Look no warriors like no more and behold that he's y'all your shots Tumbler Yoga Start Your on each aside honest soup with some love of you're not true your life aw come down on the video yarn drinking horn. I'm confused no but that's one piece yeah you can order in order to sign glasses so they're based in downtown Toronto Canada data so how how many animals will be so they were looking for twelve thousand explosion and he actually made fifteen thousand so there are above their goal okay what was sort of what was the sort of looking for twelve thousand fifteen thousand fifteen thousand seven hundred dollars get rich uncle. What's GonNa loaning cloning dear Colonie so it's a startup company? That's going to specialize in Viking drinking horns specialize talk of limited scope so twenty five dollars pledge get you the Bjorn Shirt okay twenty nine dollars. Pledge gets the Tumbler for every twenty five dollars thereafter he get an additional color thirty five dollars. Pledge was the bjorn shots thirty thirty nine dollars was the high ball glass forty. Five dollars was the Stein and in forty nine dollars was the horn itself. Okay so what what you get outside of the glasses losses. What's the biggest one? Everything is a package plus yeah right so if you're telling me that Oh you're is a shot glass biggest one or two backers one hundred twenty dollars Canadian you got the Bjorn Sore that we saw which was that the flood wouldn't flight with four shop bosses and as one hundred twenty bucks got to backers their biggest one was lucky more. It's the Hor- with the stand and that was seventy five seventy nine dollars cold. How is that cheaper than the sore? That's actually she's way nicer than the soil disorder. Something net assorted is cut out like yourself yeah I would you I would given the property the finished Wallet Base Aluminum Support Pose locator third support loop made in which I'll be honest. Main candidate feels a little so. Let's say seconds for seven okay first of all the Walnut based thing twenty bucks right. Let's at both and I'm being Jan avoid yeah you're adding finished talking leather straps which will probably ten bucks a huge quantity of it exactly and then metal a look at home so it's not even autumn so it's even worse five bucks that net so now what is the actual porn May. It's not ceramic what his animals isn't. He usually a bone or something like formerly in real life people feel. It's like a plastic almost like plastic here so it's a gloss custom grade. Okay no okay look ten bucks for engraving. That's actually a fair progressive. Maybe go here and then here's your sword heard with the shop classes SORTA. Did you vote for hundred for the price Sarah for the press. Maybe they're slightly authentic. Let's see what it's if you're GONNA go hand from real cattleman. Oh so that's that's different but that's that's where the volume food grade here coating. It's real legit solely meal. That's on the stand no so this is without the sand and for thirty bucks Moore's the stand with the the letter. That's not work but just the Horn itself is very nice for for only I mean manufacturer's suggested retail prices sixty five forty nine bucks on eighty. It's more reasonable than some of the stuff yes and honestly I don't like the horn because it's like wards F. One hundred twenty dollars Canadian on German beer sign that I'm never gonNA use Hebrew eliminating the actual glasses like the one above that with what takes the Shaw Glasses Nice Times I mean vegetarian Sherwin by it but I really like from up for five bucks more drink from a Horn of where to put it where you put in your kitchen. You're not buying the warned for something in your kitchen. You're not bring that no when people can over. That's an event then knowing me it would be so useless. I would prefer this where you can buy a sign for half that price chew but I mean I understand the pricing to support so there's a lot of actors. There's a product versus back etc right. There's two parts of this their factoring in the physical cost of the product with a spike certain increase plus then the back end. What do we need extra money towards building towards the next phase in our business so if it's forty five Canadian my guests if I'm just glad with the M._s. r._p._M.? Is that doesn't matter unless our has I think it's facts dictate the price and then you go off forty five like honestly for kickstarter. It's relied seen S. before it went on. I fucking spend forty nine bucks on on a viking. I think it's so do a quick search right now goule cheap. I've looked up to four. I think it's a fair price honestly for the fact that it's shoes reasonable. I think it's fair. The only thing that bothered me about this video is that it took me a good minute before I figured out what the or even selling and if I wasn't on the show I would have already left the video and the data and with the Lome speed. They shouldn't just sound like this is for this and then do the fancy funny video. You know what I mean. That's the only thing that bothers smaller. Forum is forty-six sea but that's with hold on that's withstand bag forty six. Let's it's just the Horn Horn vessel large natural finish and it's got like this kind of like thirty bucks fifty three bucks much way nice on the way nicer yeah but that's also bigger product as they probably make thousands a year. You know what I mean the okay but that's when compared kickstarter is for people that don't have that why did not charter I know based on if they if they come up with three three different shows and they're all like friends but one is friends. Which one do you go see what if they try really hard I might go with like friends because friends clearly doesn't need to A. B.? I will go for a while. I'm not saying I would still listen to friends but I might give my money but the other person because they're trying I did get ornaments like plastic. Almost this these are advice I might get one of these are legit considering the from old school fix. We're talking about though we're like I own your here's a here's the other thing that helps so me. It's canadian-based happening. I'm basing get the so I always look at it the business side of things right so I look at it. Let's comparable in the market. Why why this versus their causes like twenty bucks? 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Let's assume that I'm a meat eater and I'm not a vegetarian but will they say is there any side of whatever because animals dyke adventure I think the drought the horns every season we find it in the forest and this is funny say that they're not out there pointing a very tough for me to safe. I would support it because of this actor. Let's pretend ella meter okay person yeah like a normal person so I think the pricing is pretty fair it. They say that it's real and the it's like high quality. I liked the idea and it's Canadian. I would support it. It's a little bit more but I understand. They're a little company. They're not gonNA make billions year. So I'm okay with it. I would support at at what level what would you get like. We get a sign probably okay so thirty five yeah feel good. Get the Horn so the forty nine dollar. I'm really through the battlefield or Galazi gallant fests beast on seventeen ounces which is a little more than a pint handmaid's from you'll get alarm custom-made leather strap happen food grade interior coding so based on two factors if the fact that it's a like you said based in Canada sport local business but for the forty nine dollar cost if they throw in the engraving I buy more there's one with in creating. I think it was a little more right but to stanton no but does the signal I mean to stand at the standards stupid or Nagas do not grieving the the Horn is thirty bucks more diverse dollar value for just one more with the letter is good but we are out in thirty bucks more for that stand. I can make that Stan with like twenty twenty bucks. You mean like carp spur Fu prison ever had I'll tell you there's there's actually a reason for that guy so it sounds like we would have support. Did you have the store they say went over there. Marquette take a website. You can order it. There's the press material with a question is what have they done since they ship it at least because people will go on this do this just to see if he asked me they just diarist like slaughter a bunch of cattle and didn't finish it. It's dead shed gals the Canadian American camps the Saturday American the superior that tastes like a real freedom say no unless I became his company Ails Horn Dot com yeah and website doesn't exist scam skin yarn real drinking in created by beyond but your news doors ars venue. Let's see that facebook pager contact me. Here's the website we aren't hardened dot com. Let's see what their facebook cats so that means that that means their business fairly went. They went out of business. These we spent all that money money on the reality is fifteen thousand dollars. Is I mean to start a business. It seems like a lot of money but it's not enough. 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All Beer Inside Episode 36 Part 2 - It's not about Quantity; It's about Quality

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All Beer Inside Episode 36 Part 2 - It's not about Quantity; It's about Quality

"Quitting your coffee table. If you WANNA eat a burger put it on a bar volume instincts to be dubs for the new all American cheeseburger fresh juicy fiefs fast tillage crispy around the edges covered gooey cheese and stacked to the ceiling with deliciousness knocked baby Dow with a frosted beer at the bar. Just like those sports God's intended the new all America cheeseburger Buffalo Wild Wings. Please drink responsibly at what happens when you speak with horse. Yes sort of everyone's. I'd say I'd say side I say size of the heartache to just for in the views and opinions expressed on this podcast are solely those of the podcasters these views and opinions do not necessarily represent those of the trending topics network and or any all contributors to this site all beer inside also contains foul language and is generally for adults so if you don't like anything we have to say then kindly go fuck yourself with a bag of dicks I like I I should there was a song to sing. I sing in the when I said that makes me now. There's nothing left so here. John Berry Berry Berry so we're back for episode thirty six to the articles. There may be a par three depending on the time running running for this so we'll see it's middays we wanna do is they see on gun. People down six P._M.. Is the three A._M.. Of Day drinking until we're gonNA drink are normal beers or are episode beers I'll start with. I haven't drinking drinking darts U._p.. Pup Pup Pup Tari drinking your dog berry though she calls them Buddies Bonnie Komo bunnies. It's a blueberry beer by percents from from hop bedas originally alien burry that they actually made one in Quebec and fiddle. It looks like finish talked about earlier this year me so I got a blueberry superstock some finishing brilliant stop it like it's part of this Lapiz of regardless of money articulate that two years here one that good but here carp brought from skoko brewery. It's Black Raspberry thunders. I'm not a big fan raspberry but it's mixed with thunder bottle. What style is it? That's fucked up. It's a milkshake. Bring all the girls to the yard to munching. It makes it's no social and it makes no sense. How makes no sense? It's absolutely delicious. Go Okay so I'm both dry that and the other one that I originally brought all crack open after actually for you have fans out there. It's rocket red I._P.. L. I augur and showed remorse short officially for me number twenty five hundred unique Lissi forget to check in case seriously. What what Song Long was that made it up because that's the culture of our answer from Roden Brandt twenty five hundred you the League English explain to people what this is because this is a big deal for you so witness rhetorics on average? I've had a unique beer a day for two thousand actually one thousand one point way one day for twenty five. I mean this so since I started doing my on tap checking as of my first to the recording today on April twenty seven that's two thousand in two hundred and fifty five days. This is my twenty five hundred unique beer crate dat dat dat was the social on getting ready to right there so this is in Iraq women in a cover band and not in a tribute band go before he starts talking again to talk for twenty sixteen so this beers h three years we're GONNA sing when he's about to drink aged in oak fodders fodder landers unders Red Ale. It's Europe's gold medal in two thousand fifteen Belgium's gold medal in two thousand sixteen and the world's best style winner gold in two thousand sixteen at the world beer awards like like so yet one thousand five hundred long. This is really good stays seriously thanks five hundred twenty four four hundred to two thousand five hundred badges a round red sweet sour. Hopefully it's good whole bunch of that time doc. It's sweet sour. It's rich all it's it's all sorts of everything. Meet a little bit but I don't WanNA kill it. You won't like it. I will get somebody that won't try it. Try It. Don't be thick just wasn't one of your Dick. You leads to one thousand five hundred Kirk. Oh okay. It's a sham pioneer bag the bottle trump hanging yeah that's delicious. Are you okay. Hey there lady state champ banging straight two years four thousand gallon of ice. Oh this is sweet and sour taste anything sour man. I can love it. This hour shows have dude. This is real perfect belts so we go to Belgium at some point. If you go to Germany areas that routine if we go order Germany though your head shapes so you're already there as got get rid of everything except for this little lies again I can't Outta here Ju- supposed to be like wow wow that's a really good okay so tweets both from tweets Isabella of our size that WHO's actually wrong. What do at all of your incite? Where'd you get that dragon fruit beer so the jagged from beer you guys had last episode and as well for the listener you didn't answer the question hops Malt hops that means we're Richard? Get which we're going next going for me. It's another tasty fiddle are going to in verdone multi hop stuff very giant. Are you describe it as like a frigging depth. I begun we went through the one dollars basically visit it's also it is but here's great never take pictures of liquid. You're missing no that. Actually I think the new flavor theresa that just can't they've got an actual pepperoni now too well but it's like the Dick Proper. I want something like mad spicy from them the message that it would be like hey vices. One of the most spicy hottest kick is pepe which goes on Asir Mexican one. That's yeah but stay spice that is one that US as well for Ms Ed for the Listener Dutta or Alexy's Lito Lo quote Lucy's quotas Jeez quoting high adult school movies at your side asset so thirty five also I- legit l._l.. At release airports w Lee it's along the world last episode you guys was not going. I don't even know what that's like. The last episode you guys old school was like for the listener highs and I was listening to the podcast and I was like really. I was laughing hard for him. When you guys went Rooney's altogether at the same time to Gene Palo Alto I freaked out our so is funnier than yourself? Yeah it's honorable quantity. It's about quality vanish true so I'm using wishes flight. Amazing fucking beard is for Canada government of Canada eliminating federal barrier to interprovincial alcohol trae which doesn't mean a thing anyways technically because it's not sufficient ask. What does this mean hey? I'm going to go online and order a beer from B._C.. And it gets shipped to my house and a couple of days. That is nice to meet tells you. The problem is the stupid problems. We live in this toxic. Yeah that's true so that you're not supposed to know but so from Canadian Beer News Dot Com Auto Ontario the government can it has nasty introduction of legislation that will remove current rule prohibiting individuals from ordering or shipping alcohol across across provincial borders on our books since Prohibition Air Wow sister we ought to say awesome Canadian Beer News. The government of Canada has seen introduction of legislation that will remove the current rule prohibiting individuals from ordering or shipping alcohol across. I provincial borders as promised budget twenty nineteen. The government of Canada has introduced legislation which will remove the federal requirement. Take a brain break that alcohol moving from one province do like the chocolate rain guides your mouth away look. It's reading see does the metal version of that Jordan. Look forward to reading a book. This allowed processed territories changes in order for direct to customer shipping to be allowed across Canada except Quebec a lot of this for too long Canadians have been frustrated by the restrictions on the sale of Canadian beer wine and spirits between provinces and territories said the honorable dominant midler up minister of intergovernmental and Northern Affairs and internal traits. This guy's got three titles one salary yeah once our the proposed legislative amendment would remove the only remaining federal barrier to trade in alcohol and the onus he said onus we'll be on provincial territory governments to change their own regulations paving the way for direct to consumer alcohol sales across Canada. Let's at stopping them from just letting the Canadians just trade known old man. This is just people there's equal sitting there with absolutely nothing types of beer okay. They don't drink beer. They're probably Weinstock. You don't get the money myself nothing beneficial to them and they're just holding onto whatever's in their bucket of laws that control finding a reason to try and monetize trying to find a way tax evidence much now. It's an ancient law aww that never was taken off the books and they're like really enforce. I mean it was deserves that guy who went from commissioning Brian. We got hit hard but I mean on a regular whenever I go to Ontario once corner. I'm bringing three hundred dollars because we've we've broken the law on technically it's not the thing is you can call it a lot so stupid enough. It's like you can be twenty states. Yeah right across and bring anything you want. I always even I can get your Plattsburgh from fucking Tennessee. They don't Care No. It's got everything doesn't matter worried comes from it's just it's just bought an old law that was never taken off which they're finally thinking about doing it now. I get it like for taxation representative. It's a hell of a lot cheaper to grow to four how much America it's called an amendment. That's how that works. They got some but I honestly to beat the devil's advocate I kind of understand to the point where that devil to the point where it's like today. It's pro minors. So why should they pay attention to it for us. That loved her nurse Minor. She's into Myers underaged beer era where we're waiting for this moment to happen but that doesn't care for them. It's like it's still small who cares if we amend or not or whatever you know but we're going to do is my point no rights but why why should he even think about it. If they care about beer you don't think they don't care about jobs social but with the macro so Molson Labatt or Inbev Labatt even sleeping and he's on some level you know this is going to open craft beer from like I said I wanna be your from D._C.. From Caveat Want Beers from Winnipeg. Yes it's safer people like us who are still technically in the minority. I'm GonNa tell you why it's going to have have trouble for the only reason it's routine amongst capitalism across North America and other countries where it actually exists the big name brands are GonNa come in and say to someone who's got control God money. They have say if you don't if you allow this beer to be sold inside of X._y._Z. territory we're GONNA pull out having Burris or whatever in your thing providing jobs bob lots become a political thing. That's the that's what I worry that eventually. I don't think we're I think they're realizing that they don't have that much power anymore. Like people that really love beer or really just still living away from what happened to the entire like auto on-command Reggie badly like G._M.. And four all these places that basically bellied up because they didn't have the government's basically said we're not going to support the ability that generate new revenue through isis is going to be through here and then they said okay well. We're going to pick up and we're going to go back to the states and then thousands and thousands of people in Canada lost their jobs because of right Fisher yeah I do see it as an opportunity because nobody wants to start a good upstart with like a craft beer box or something like that. There's lime or like Mel Orders ECOMMERCE Yup simple adding for us who are beer lovers or those earlier on even older who are interfered can be amazing if this happens because you know sit there oh this brewery N._B._C. A._B._C. and that I make I'm giving Canada Post. Money can post charges like the asshole. They're saying they're they're trump survive. Do they have a lot of territory to cover. I think it'd be amazing and I really hope it. It goes so that's free go to wait wait. He's he's he might be out of office in a few months really all the snake in the grass shearer and there's no good answer just like the state now. We're talking okay so you guys watch the Super Bowl back that you worry yes era. Here is your core and Syrah cords ripple on Stu totally holy light cord to coors light beginning attack by wind. Mel Gruber's has recently filed a lawsuit against that anheuser Busch over Super Bowl Kruger's sewers coors light maker false and misleading leading pieris according to the lawsuit filed on Thursday March Twenty First Bud lights advertising that focused on Miller coors shoes use of corn syrup is corn Syrup. Mourns votes are fearmongering intended costs irreparable harm to the company's reputation blowing quotes. I'll equality actually in addition to the commercial rand during this this year your Super Bowl anheuser-busch also put a bud light billboards throughout Colorado Ages Big Time Miller territory anheuser busch is fear mongering over a common beer ingredient it uses in many of its own ears as ferment fermentation a that's not even presented. That's my present in the final product. This deliberate deception is bad for the entire beer category. We are showing the world that truth Miller Coors said in a statement so well there was a commercial so none of our audience. I'M GONNA post the YouTube AD in your own words what G. L. D._R.. Hey Bud light commercials tonight and it's like all she doesn't Shari Short adulting lane bud lights like and also he's dead because of the game of thrones thing yeah. That's awesome sauce so they're like Oh Siro. Are you delivered delivered your Corn Syrup like ten guys so they bring a giant Barrel Corn Syrup Abusing Oh sure Dan Bruce but it's known that all these guys use court and cursor up to but they don't know they do this because there's so much of it yeah so what's the problem for mass production because you're saying they're commercial. I think so they're saying that they don't Maruja real beer ingredients that they have to use the actual like that to brew. We actually your yes unlike answer the commercial but that's how stupid the states is is that you can sue for that with Sir so it's a direct attack literally a direct attack on them. Okay I see <music> we received are sending this morning joking. During the course like castle they also use Corn Syrup. It's he spent so much money on these commercial not just making abortion but super bowl. Is this card serve yours clear we grew with corn syrup. Oh I mean that's a rough bud light but might not be but budweiser is so okay either way that's marketing. That's allowed. You're allowed to put up a differentiator between you and somebody still take issue in like minded ticket. I wouldn't appreciate our ensue but I wouldn't appreciate anything. NYC hasn't done that should against the Dita's always now fiances so what they do yeah shoe that's over. That's not over. It's over. It's not so I said yesterday on Instagram with Adidas. What are you talking about so no? It's not how it's been this next article. I'M GONNA call what I'd love to do with moving on. It's over doc as this town educate the masses on on Canadian stupid laws but I know in Canada there used to be law where you could not directly attack competitor. I don't know if it's still it's still valid. uh-huh did they technically no so technically I know this for technically have it in the states but there's as you would imagine loophole city because you mentioned that you can't show their logo and fatally a competitor and then you list off some of the things that they've said suddenly or mighty that ad they clearly said the name but not happy because you can go like I'll give all the automotive they go dodge dodge okay better than Toyota Toyota uh-huh and then just flat out do they showed like the graph of La. We have the better scores across the board so it's very loose. It's like Oh. We won the automotive Blah Blah Blah this week. That company says they want to commend that company says parts but it's like the addition from this company. I trust and there's analysts that get paid to save what you want them to say and there's analysts that say we're GONNA look at everybody told the truth when as I said don't trust ads. Can you put the Al- wanted side ad for the referee technically. It's true because here's here's here's socks we notice ally right there. Yeah 'cause suppressants use recipes raucously. She's still only occasionally puts can you can you do a rock sad memorial serving us. It's just a sad version of looks amazing. You got all the wrong whatever somebody did the articles what I want. A huge article car next ought to go from utilize dot C._o.. Dot You get what seventy four year old man has been on the world's longest pump crawl visiting fifty thousand bars Holy Shit says he single question do spire to be him. I do buy these okay. Let's I come to a point hairs and stuff less hair chair. He's got weights. He's actually guy me but he's guys so eastern just past the male Talk Ring Chai's many enjoy Easter weekend with a few drinks in the sun or is I enjoyed them multiple breweries and Ontario just seventy only no I tried seventy years. I visited seventeen breweries and I brought home sixty nine different beers sixty nine. That'd be glad to hear that a man who's completed the world's longest pub crawl leaves Don. Here is the secret to eternal youth. He's done so he's not married. I'm what's going to find that out. Let's continue Bruce Masters Awesome Power Hour seventy four has just been given a Guinness World Record visiting testing visiting for visiting fifty one thousand six hundred ninety visiting for visiting using for visiting six hundred five five in the U._K.. Over the years well he'd never left you Kim <music>. How's that many in just the U._K.? No but how you said fifty thousand one thousand six hundred ninety five in the U._k.. Over the last fifty years okay I got to look that up. Also relief is on you know what also may be considered like Oh. Let's say Oh this but we need to this. I wonder if that can go no go back to the same I'm taking this position of the size as of the Canada and the landmass and everything and the U._k.. Is a little turn analysis. That's like 'cause you case Germany Belgium France. You know it's not your U._K.. Germany the MIA is editing kingdom find no no Jimmy Farrell. There's more people in the U._K.. Then more densely populated and was Oiseaux. I mean like we're still spread out. That's what I said. Yes thinks that's what I yet what he said. You're still talking about fifty thousand. That's a lot of minimum but if you hit them all did. Did you hit them. All I'd have to continue but I'm just saying fifty thousand pubs the world record for hitting Ireland's Ireland Northern Ireland Scotland Wales and then there's all the islands around yeah so the aisle so it's not Germany Germany now. That's a minute so fifty one thousand in the U._K.. U._k. over the last fifty years so he's got to be like as because this now I agree or move across the street something like that. I don't know about that honestly would account. It's a different pump. We'll have to find that. How do you count this? Let's see you're basing it off of a guy who's been around for fifty years saying that he's done this right. After the GRANDAD leases thanks to his love of pubs and beer that many people mistake came for sixty rather than seventy four okay. He started his marathon pub crawl when he was fifteen one applied just cost a show Dr is the equivalent think about inflation and everything yet well back then now no record now no go dow so he spent about one hundred twenty thousand euros on the crawl over the five decades says over the five decades see. Nobody's daughters have asked him to slow Odom Bruce has no plans on stopping now still intends to visit as many as possible from Bruce when I ask people how old they think I am. They're always about fourteen years out. It must be the good effective year the preservatives three Madrid and leading to be a centurion anyway. I can't imagine how many will have on visited by that. I'm hoping to never stop some people. My Age aren't able to get around as much but I walk quite a lot when I'm out and about so that keeps me active too so Canadian my daughter's doing Nag on sometimes and say dad. Don't you think it's time you slow down a bit. I say no way what about the why defined to just go after whatever I get up to. I originally started accounting in nineteen seventy one and remember the ones I'd done the from the from nineteen sixty the idea of this thing as many as possible occurred to me when funnily enough it says funnily. That's the word I was sitting in a pub. I decided that would you my hobby there and then not many girls are attracted to steam engines after all as working for British rail. That's also an after work. I'd go and blitz a few areas of London being in London where there are six thousand pugs. I decided I want to try and make sense so that's what that was my point deaf or right you said fifty thousand there's no way there's that make you Britain so six thousand just lended alone but that's still saying because that's the that's the hub the hub you're talking about Scotland Scotland Ireland and what was the other place that while the Islands Ireland Scotland Wales England England Wales and the islands that are surrounding the islands will have much. I'm still trying to figure out how you get fifty dollars because the islands have more I guess chiefs. I know Ireland is decent. I know Scotland actually has a ton of pubs while we're talking to Delta of like forty four thousand maybe look like small British town and within Lina Literal Mile. There's twelve pups still not that's the maths doesn't add up so it has every single town city yeah mainly though I guess Bruce was made decades of this like it's possible. This reuss was made redundant twenty years ago pretty big redundant fired got fire your cat. We'll fire sale. Maybe firewood package at so you decided he would devote more time to his hobby saying he's been on Mike Pub Finding missions ever since while he averages thousand a year old when I want that package and says it usually only has half a pint in place which sounds was while we're so I think the number he wants to just hit the most. You just want to see this. I mean look you WanNa do your I'm trying. We're going to be reading this. Some other podcasts could be look. I mean always that's obvious the appropriate everywhere sideburns segues are often so going from the U._K.. To Canada are what we recently all the in Canada. The Oh cool is stock on this podcast. All Canadian accidentally stole a car intently Antigone slurpy run twenty one years later he wants to apologize twenty one years while they're everyone has that one memory that still weighs on their conscience years or even decades later what Kevin Freedman thirty year thirty eight year old governance consultant ED member of the Business Faculty of University of Winnipeg Manitoba involves a slurry run and stolen Ford Taurus expert epic. He's going for something though he's got a job now but that's what it is. He doesn't want people to come back on. Go find the twenty one yeah. There's no twitter fee now. They don't want to like find something. You didn't apologize already now. Nearly twenty one years later he's launched a quest to find the woman he inadvertently wronged wronged. Tell her that he sorry toby. Laurie Navy view restored Hot August Day in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight Friedman then seventeen was working a split shift at the Community Pool in Winnipeg eh where he was a lifeguard and swimming okay earlier that's every eight total. He totalled his car after crashing it into a cow that unexpected wonder voted comedian. Okay sorry Arkadi farmland anywhere that's Midwest. That's no different than tornadoes in Kansas. Yeah I agree with the Kerr he had still had an outstanding the parking ticket that he eats a page from his break and was about to set off on foot when a coworker joss Jocelyn McKee Joyce her car instead and bring it back the embry Magnus slurpee from seven eleven the the line right Freeman told the Washington Post and I said Oh yeah absolutely the Washington Post's founding slow news day McKee's car was light colored nine hundred ninety four tourists which was every second or a Saros tourists like they've been there for a while like not the Robo cop all car now a tourist every second or third on the road at the time frequency spotted in a parking lot right away the windows were down in the doors were unlocked. The car wouldn't start at the first drive but he drove anyway with that. Ah Carbon start on the first try but he drove away without thinking much about it stopping to get money from an A._T._m.. Friedman return to the Ford only defined that wouldn't start. You've already been reluctant to borrow it. He told the Post since he had never we're really driven. Anyone else's car without that being there good but mckeon told him she trusted him reminding Friedman that they known each other for a long time now sitting in the front of the bank. Get nervously turning the key over and over again waiting through the engine. Turn nothing happened after a few minutes even remembered something when he was leaving full he'd only been able to start the car after he put his seatbelt on. Is this a screenplay for a movie like what are we listening. Maybe reason with himself and there was some kind of new technology. Can you read it like <hes> like this American Life Nice during the key and it works believed he drove to the police station where he planned to pay parking ticket building was located in downtown. Winnipeg is a big article. Do Your Rian illiterate have a month at sea or more considering the delays in releases. Late night long after mckeon Left Work Friedman noticed that her car was still sitting in the parking lot panic racket guilt he concluded that he must have damaged it so badly that she hadn't been able to drive home his coworker so he brought the car back and it didn't move this is when God was this story about read it do your hourglass area so posted on twitter as social network. I need your help to find someone whenever teenagers teenagers of all denote cert- situation that wanted to find the other person involved the victim you see in the summer of Nineteen Ninety Eight. I accidentally stole someone's car and I had no eight so there were two tourist tours. There's the car into the wrong one. That's a good question I say this is it like from my first car. That was from nineteen eighty eight. Oh my God I was actually able to start the car without keeney mission because the Ki- like all those notches or Saturday right and so this is nineteen ninety eight decade litter so how did it do the terminator trick where you just stick your finger taken a stolen car to police stations had police helped me get into the car and essentially I felt guilty ever since so he's actually cops like that's ballsy not so he because he thought it was his friend's car he's GonNa pay a ticket in her car which was actually just technically stolen cars for you and then went to another police station because having trouble at the car and the cost helped him start the car at the so I can please stay. Are you serious. That's that but you know what this often enough. People will believe you right there like I know this car. I don't know why it's not a Oh shit. Let's help you if you're I'm pretty sure you're confident often enough and he got a blackjack. You want to help prop open the pretty sure I'm always gonNA remember this story that I read online once or maybe it wasn't a newspaper back then we're two guys remembered solo oh well nominee but they stole piano. I won't see him like this will be all the piano in the mid day in a museum. Imagine Molik on thought piano would be so heavy but but that was the thing right they were so confident president of this piano that just literally just picked it up and went in. Nobody questioned embar confident enough. You can get away with a lot of things yeah. Nobody questioned them because they just literally picked up the plugin scrolling bought the age drug and brought it up hundred percent. That's ballsy and confidence man white generally you pretty much get away and would be stupid enough to steal a piano in the middle of the day smart people. It is very heavy. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA try and kick start. M._S. did one out of how many one there is a whisper in the wind. That's wait wait pirate hire you hear this Viking all consuming levels stub. Your color looks pretty grown. Men jobs how demand will yun aches for pure enough to the constant. That's it's ready to Muse already details of history jealous loopy and ready to house the joyful of one gross. Look no warriors like Komo and behold that he's y'all your shots Tumbler Stein. You're on each side decide how honest look at simply toast with some love of your blood not true y'all are in life acting legend the video yarn drinking horn. I'm confused no but that's one piece yeah you can order in order to sign on losses so they're based at a downtown Toronto Canada data so how how many animals will be killed so they were looking for twelve thousand explosion and he actually made fifteen thousand so there are above their goal. Whoa sorry what was the liver twelve thousand fifteen thousand fifteen thousand seven hundred and two dogs? We'll get rich uncle. What's little loaning warning your colonie so it's looks like a startup company? That's GONNA specialize in Viking drinking horns specialize talk of limited scope so twenty five dollars pledge get you the Bjorn the Orange Shirt okay twenty nine dollars. Pledge gets the Tumbler for every twenty five dollars thereafter he could get an additional tumbler thirty five dollar pledge was the bjorn shots thirty thirty nine dollars as the high ball glass forty five dollars was the Stein and in forty nine dollars was the horn itself. Okay so what what you get outside of the glasses losses okay so what's the biggest one. Everything is package plus yeah right so if you're telling me that Oh you're is a shot glass biggest one or two backers one hundred twenty dollars Canadian you got the Bjorn Sword that we saw which was that the flight wouldn't Jordan Sarb flight with four shop losses and as one hundred twenty bucks got to backers their biggest one one. It's the horror of the stand and that was seventy five seventy nine dollars cold. How is cheaper than the sore? That's actually is way nicer than the song disorder. Something just cut out like yourself. Yeah I mean would you I would given the proper to the initial Wallet Base Aluminum Support Posts locator `art support loop maiden which I'll be honest. Main candidate feels a little bit so let's say seconds for seven okay first of all the Walnut Base thing twenty bucks yeah right at most and I'm being Jan enemy would yeah you're adding finished talking leather straps which will probably ten bucks a huge quantity of it exactly and then metal a little bit so it's not dominant so it's even worse five bucks of net so now what is the actual porn made. It's <hes> it's not ceramic what his book animals isn't he usually at bognor. Something like normally is real. People realize it's like a plastic almost like plastic. I'm sure so it's a glossy shame and you get accustomed grade. Okay no okay ten bucks for engraving. That's actually a fair progressive. Maybe go here and then here's your sword with the <hes> shophouses name for one hundred for the price it Sarah for the press. Maybe they're slightly offended. Let's see what it's about but if you're GONNA go hand made from real cataloging all so that's different that's different but that's that's where the volume food grade interior coating. It's real legit solely. That's on the stand no so this is without the sand and for thirty bucks Moore's the stand with the the letter. Let's start is not worth any books but just the Horn itself is very nice for for only I mean manufacturer's suggested retail prices sixty five forty nine bucks eighty. It's more reasonable than some of the stuff yes and honestly I don't like the horn because it's like wards F. One hundred twenty dollars Canadian on a German beer sign that I'm never going to use Hebrew eliminating the actual glasses like the one above that with the Shaw glasses assigns Vegetarian Sherwin by it but I really actually earned from up or for five bucks more drink from a Horn of where to put it where you put in your kitchen. You're not going to warn for something in your kitchen. You're not bring that out when people can over and that's an event then knowing me it would be still useless. I would prefer this where you can buy Stein for half that price true true but I mean I understand the pricing to support so there's a lot of actors the American product versus back right. There's two parts of this. They're factoring in the physical cost of the product with the spike certain increase plus then the backing. What do we need extra money towards building towards the next phase in our business so if it's forty five Canadian my guests if I'm just glad with the M._s. r._p._M.? Is doesn't matter and that's our is. I think it's fair what redick take the price and then you go off and five is like honestly for kickstarter. It's relied seen this this before it went on. I fucking spent forty nine bucks on Viking on. I think it's so do a quick search right now Goule oh they're not cheap. I've looked up to four. I think it's a fair price for the fact that it's shoes reasonable. I think it's fair. The only thing that bothers me about this video is that it took me a minute before I figured out what they were even selling and if I wasn't on the show I would have already left the video and they wounded with the loan speed. They shouldn't just sound like this is for this and and then the fancy funny video you know what I mean. That's the only thing that bothers allow smaller forum is forty-six sea with hold on that's withstand bag this. We're forty six. It was just the Horn Horn vessel large natural finish and it's got like this kind of like more actually thirty bucks fifty three bucks much less way nice way nicer but that's also bigger product as in like they probably make thousands a year. You know what I mean the okay but that's when compared to kickstarter is for people that don't have that wanted like Carter. I know if they if they come up with three different shows and they're all like friends but one is friends. Which one do you go see what if they try really hard? I might go with like friends because friends clearly doesn't need to me me. I will go for a while. I'm not saying I still listen to friends that I might give money other person because they're trying. I did get ornaments like plastic almost but this these are nice ice. These are legit considering the from old school. We're talking about that. We're like mostly I own your here's a here's the other thing that helps me. It's Canadian based. I'm basing at so I always look at it the business side of things so I look at it what's comparable in the market. Why did I buy this versus? These third causes like twenty bucks. I think I think the product that's what I was leaning towards. At the end of my my my comment before was the product was twenty twenty five bucks because I'm going to make it would have to cost them. Twenty Bucks maximum twenty five bucks exactly and then then the uptake the forty bucks or whatever is the donation X. chair business. That's the way I presume that makes sense to me because then you're talking being not a fifty fifty but a little bit maybe a sixty forty so late where the uptake goes will get you better products more product whatever based on the Z also building a pipeline from what we've seen one. Would you support it if he s two at what level of service okay so I kind of understand it. Unfortunately they lose me at a prince like a personal as a personal principle because I'm vegetarian now. I can't really support it up hold. Let's assume that I'm a meat eater and I'm not a vegetarian but what if they say is there any side of this as whatever because Fatima dike sure. I'm not sure about adventure. I think the drop the horns every season we find it in the forest and this is probably GonNa say that they're not out there wanting more so a very tough remain safe. I would support it all because of this actor. Let's pretend L. meter okay yeah look a normal person so I think the pricing is pretty fair. It say that it's real and the it's like high quality. I liked the idea and its Canadian. I would support it. It's a little bit more but I understand. They're a little company. They're you're not gonNA make billions year. So I'm okay with it. I would support an at will level. What would you have like? We get a sign probably okay so thirty bucks yeah fill the Horn so the forty nine daughter I'm on savings you've really through the battlefield or Galazi down the beast on seventeen ounces which is a little more than a pint handmaid's from you'll get alarm custom made leather strap happn food grade interior coating so based on two factors if the fact that it's a like you said based in Canada sport local business but for the forty nine dollar cost cost if they throw in engraving I buy more there's one with in creating. I think it was a little more right but to stanton no but does the signal. I mean the stand. The stand is stupid or Nagase. They're not grieving. The the Horn thirty bucks ninety dollars value for just one more and with the letter is good but we are at in thirty bucks for that stand I can I can make that Stan with like twenty twenty bucks. You mean like Carpe spur ever had I'll tell you there's there's actually a reason for that guy so it sounds like we would if support is done. Do you have the store. They say went over there marquette. They have a website. You can order it. There's the press material well. The question is what have they done since they ship it at least because there's people will go on this and do this just to see if the acid he just died just like slaughter a bunch of cattle and didn't finish it my heart. It's dead shed field. How's the Canadian counter American camps the Saturday American the superior that tastes like real freedom doesn't say no and Leslie became his company AOL Dot Com website doesn't exist so it's a scam who was a skin yarn real drinking in created by V._R. But yarn his doors venue? Let's see that facebook creator contact me was here's the website we are unharmed dot com. Let's see their facebook cats so this is kind of that means that that means the business failed he went. They went out of business these people they spent all that money the reality is fifteen thousand dollars. Is I mean to start a business. It seems like a lot of money but it's not enough. It's not removed there. Were counting on that and indeed in pull in the equivalent amounts anything for production rationalize or they probably didn't have any business having they didn't have a deal alongside distributor manufacturing shipping costs of goods shipping counter like all the stuff that it's become ale war. Maybe no yeah that's my thing they didn't. They didn't change your name. They got bought block. I mean on the fuel similar orange tankards <music> different design the hydrogen sixty nine ounces Jesus Christ that doesn't make sense show me that I want that game of those phone engraved. Those are Nice though I would buy that five years worse whichever the five years no one knows. It looks like three hundred bucks show it. I think it's like crazy gigantic. It's just that the bigger our three hundred on though I kinda really want them. Birds Good. It tastes like a Canadian beer three hundred U._S.. Oh my God that's a hand for scale Holy Shit so I want that's empty. Magical camels can hold hands can't talk ridiculously sized airborne is for the Viking that has everything triple X.. L. Natural finish eighteen inches tall. Oh my God that's a foot and a half. Wow that's huge Noli. He guarantees nothing that there's no views. Everybody's like yeah too much well. That's because nobody bothered like where do you put it in the middle of the show over to like a beer festival. Just take your pants all right all right so articles down. Maybe the year two three to return with with editing. It'll be on so so for less redone every year. Last year's Sheboygan ship on it is the name of the year drafts. 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S04 Episode 14 Extra: 2+2=5

Unexplained

14:56 min | 1 year ago

S04 Episode 14 Extra: 2+2=5

"Hello i'm richard mclean smith the creator of unexplained and i'm extremely excited to finally be able to announce the upcoming publication of my book for the u._s. and and canada featuring tenue real life events from around the world to continue to evade explanation each chapter goes deeper than i have on the podcast into not just the story itself but the science theory and philosophy we can learn from it. What can an apparent demonic possession teachers about free will what can the case of the poltergeist tell us about the human need to tell stories and what can a haunted box. Tell us about how we construct reality publishing on october first last two thousand nineteen you can preorder your copy of unexplained from amazon bonds and noble and india bound and keep an eye out on my website twitter and facebook feet for more exciting announcements <music> <music> <music> welcome to unexplained extra with me richard mclean smith with the weeks in between episodes look at stories and ideas that one reason or other didn't make it into the previous show in our last episode negative space. We looked at the chilling tale l. of the purana family haunting which like many people i i came across to fill the covering it was also through this fill that i i i heard about lorraine and edward with whom the peron's story has subsequently become inextricably linked there is little doubt that for whatever reason season some members of the perron family had noticed and experienced various things occurring in the home which they later came to speculate might be the result of a haunting however it was from the involvement of the warren's that the story really began to solidify into something that appeared to get the peron's concerns some legitimacy and would later inspire the filmmakers of the country. I don't think for a moment that those filmmakers have a duty to present a story based on fact so truth. It is a film entertainment and doesn't present. It's anything else nor should it be required to however since many of warren's and perrins assumptions associations drew on the history of real people it feels necessary to go a little deeper into the conclusions that they eventually drew you and the subsequent mythology that is now being attached to the story having become increasingly unsettled by the peculiar event taking place in her home. Carolyn perron became convinced that her family was being haunted vite least one militia spirit and so in the summer of nineteen seventy two. She took it on herself to try and find a possible culprit. Caroline is said to have begun by going through the records at burrillville townhall the town which incorporates the area of harrisville in rhode island whether peron's homes located despite finding some useful information about the past owners of the house a family named arnold it wasn't until she met fran who worked at a local store that she apparently began to get somewhere off telling fran about the supposed entity she had seen with the broken neck. Fran is said to recognize the description of it's closed a simple dress with white pockets as being typical of local fashion in the nineteenth century from here. The pair came across the name bethsheba sherman as documented in a three part. What series of books titled house of doctors house of light written by odors daughter andrea peron caroline was then introduced to mr mckeon seven an elderly member of the local community who had in fact known but schieber as a young boy what mccutchen is said to have gone on to tell caroline gave for serious pause for thought back when but schieber had been a young woman it was said that a baby possibly hers or someone else's it isn't listenclear died mysteriously while it her care the cause of death was thought to be the result of a wound made by a needle that was founded impale to the base of the infant skull. This event was said to have taken place when bat sheba will staying at the farmhouse back when it was known as the arnold's farm but schieber was apparently accused of murdering the child but ultimately escaped conviction when the judge presiding over her trial failed to find sufficient evidence to condemn her as a result it was said the local community remains suspicious of bethsheba for the rest most of life with some accusing her of being a witch in league with the devil and that was only the beginning having being felt uncomfortable in the bond on numerous occasions. Caroline was also said to be shocked to learn that one of the arnold had hung themselves in the bond and that pantry door leading just off the parlor that wouldn't stay shock might as she is said to have discovered if had something to do with the eleven seven year old girl raped and murdered in there many years before soon nami volcanoes tornados and earthquakes. These are real life monsters. 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It was some months later that a friend of caroline's was attending a lecture in the town putnam roughly twenty miles away being in given by lorraine and ed warren lorraine and ed warren had been making a name for themselves as self-described clairvoyant and de manala gist respectively offering their services to clear unwanted spirits from people's homes the warranted i met back in nineteen forty three and after marrying two years later went on to set up the new england society for psychic research in nineteen fifty two ed had grown up in a house which he i believe was haunted and having convinced lorraine of the idea came up with a plan to see if they could find other homes also haunted et who had spent some time at art school would paint the apparently haunted homes and offered the paintings to the owners in return for a chance to investigate the house it was from these unconventional beginnings that the pair developed a reputation as paranormal investigators though their psychic research society he had been founded simply to investigate apparent huntings their approach changed when in one thousand nine hundred sixty five the warren's claim to have conversed with the spirit take a young child named cynthia who was trying to find her mother. The pair is said to be in so touched by this apparent communication that instead instead of merely investigating ponting's they became dedicated to helping the supposed spirits. They encountered a self-described paranormal investigators. The warren's received their first break in nineteen sixty eight after looking into the alleged possession of the raggedy ann doll a toy that have become come popular in the u._s. In the nineteen ten the dull which would later inspire the film annabelle said to being possessed by the spirit someone called annabelle annabel higgins by the nineteen seventies the warranted well and truly cemented their reputation and were embarking on a tour of lectures to explain their practices assists when caroline's friend barbara went to see them in putnam speaking to them afterwards barbara told them all about what was apparently taking place the parental home with their interest piqued the warren's appear one morning at the peron's farmhouse and requested permission to inspect property <hes> pity caroline julia greed also showing them all the apparent evidence she had amassed about who she believed might be responsible for the haunting. When caroline then mentioned inexplicable wound she had received while arresting one afternoon in the parlor. Lorraine warren had a sudden epiphany since the wound was a small circular puncture in the skin as if made by a needle. It was clear that the culprit wolves bats sheba. Eh charlotte was indeed a woman named named bath sheba sherman who lived in borrow ville rhode island at the time in question having been born in eighteen twelve after dying in eighteen eighty five life around the age of seventy three it is also conceivable that mr mckeon had met her as a young boy although he would have had to have been in his ninety s in one thousand nine hundred seventy one to have had any real recollection of this however there is nothing on record to suggest bethsheba edited donald farmhouse. Let alone lived there for any prolonged period of time nor is there any record of her being involved in the possible murder of a child child in fact no evidence of any scandal of the sort having taken place in the borough field area has ever been found what his known is that bethsheba born bethsheba thia was married to a judson sherman in eighteen forty four as the record state. The pair had four children together. The first three would die tragically young not in any way unusual for the time with their only surviving son being herbert sherman born in eighteen forty nine when back shiba died in eighteen eighty five most likely from stroke. No tony was a eulogy given by the local baptist minister but she was buried alongside the graves of her first husband and deceased children as writer and historian historian. Jamie rubio has pointed out. Both these incidences would have been unlikely if the local community had suspected her of any of the crimes she had apparently irony being accused of neither was there any mention of these alleged crimes in sherman's obituary as for the other individuals they had been suggested as potential spirits jamie rubio unearth some interesting information about them to it was claimed that an elderly woman of the arnold family had committed suicide by hanging herself in the bond. Although this isn't true a member of the arnold family when the family was still in possession possession of the farm was found to have hung themselves back in eighteen eighty six however the woman in question susan honored didn't die at the farmhouse us nor was she elderly at the time of death in a devastatingly tragic account of the incident susan arnold zabit ury recounts is how her husband john who had disability at the time struggled to break into a storeroom which had been locked from the inside when he finally managed to get tin after climbing through a back window he found the fifty year old susan's lifeless body suspended from wardrobe hook with a very small cord evidently had every intention of succeeding with plan to commit suicide a loaded gun a knife and a file of mercury was was also found by arnold's body. Another connection joined by lorraine warren to the parents home was with the death of a young girl named prudence who warren claimed was raped and murdered in the pantry. This also was found to be some distance from the truth ten miles to to be precise again tragically an event similar to this did take place but not in the parents home rather in the nearby town of oxbridge oxbridge. It was there that in eighteen forty nine twenty two year old william knowlton became so angry at twelve year old prudence is refusal refusal to marry him that he slit her throat and watched her bleed to death knowlton was eventually convicted of the crime and sentenced sentenced to death by hanging justifying his actions as the simple consequence of love and jealousy which he stated would lead a man to do anything if you enjoy listening to unexplained and would like to help supporters you can now goat wrote unexplained podcasts dot com forward slash support all donations no matter how large or small a massively appreciate all elements of unexplained produced by me richard mclean smith please subscribe and rate the show on i tunes and feel free to get in touch with any thoughts right is regarding the stories. You've heard on the show baps. You have an explanation of your own. You'd like to share you can reach us online at unexplained unexplained podcast dot com twitter at unexplained port and facebook at facebook dot com forward slash unexplained <music>.

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Perry Mason - He is a loose Gannon

For Your Reference

1:08:43 hr | 2 months ago

Perry Mason - He is a loose Gannon

"Hello, we are starting off with. Guests me and. I'm going to guess who you think was the funniest character in Perry Mason. In three to what bills Jerry Clinton Okay I thought you were going to like not be real and because he's not funny at all. So I thought it was just going to be Dick about it is funny to me. Well, let's continue the Dixon get on with the show. How This matter for you reference podcasts, he got hers Katie Not and pay all times but ignore your wives because this week court is in session with HBO's Perry Mason. WHO WHO in deed? It feels good to be covering a shower in relative old-timer t. Let's just been a while. It's been a whole. Lot. Less off with the stats interrupting rotate. Around her, it was released in June of twenty twenty. Year that would never end. We have creative of way of Ron. Fitzgerald, and Roland Journal. Executive. Producer. Robert Downey junior would you believe t He was actually slated to stop as Perry. Mason but was scheduling conflicts He didn't but he remained an executive producer of the shirt. Glad. Mafia reese was on. Okay settled down. You we don't have to be a damn x one hundred at this side of the episode of. These based on novels from Earl Stanley. Gardner? And this show seem to want to follow more of the DACA. Sort of intrinsic nature that the novels have as opposed to the show that came out and quite a decade. network of Hey ch- Pierre. Is Dollar, in the Foyer Reference Household cross off your Bingo cards on the wire dare would scholley going into sopranos an all's anytime soon. Sooner rather than later sooner rather than later Let's just quickly rattle off. The top cost of this show we have Matthew Race Juliet Rylance Chris Chalk and John Lithgow lifter will lithgow this call I. Think Lithgow Fill Nest. So they we those are the stats Let's dive into first impressions or Take A. Guess. Give peppering. If you've ever heard of Perry Mason before and I guess generally how you felt over the series, it's also an opportunity to say spoiler spoiler spoiler. So if You're holes are not ready for us to spoil you then perhaps. Peruse Al Catalog. But back to Earth back catalogue. How did you feel about the series? I don't know what to expect going into Perry Mason I've never heard of every. Mason. So's not even the pyramids. Period. And I just thought it'd be one of those old shows and know what to go in the first episode the pilot he got interesting as he wearing on. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I didn't know Tatyana Sleigh, would-be in this. And I don't think she was in the first episode if I remember correctly I'm not sure but when she showed up on the screen. Wow, I, sold. To do a double take because she's blonde in the show. I did not needed alty I've seen all sort of hairstyles. Oh, see 'cause I haven't watched often black with her alter she has different visual Yup our way K. alright alright. Alright. Well, this is not the Tatyana Stan podcast or a team. That is the after hours Yes she she's not an all episodes, but definitely she gravitated to your. Attention. Is Anything else you WANNA say about the series or is it just Tatyana stand? It's And it's a good show. It's a good. What's the great? Fuckin- sure come on now. Say Great. How you need to come down a bit how fucking die you? See. How fucking day? This show the way that we came across this show because I didn't think it was even on your radar for us to watch. This was something I introduced into the four year reference bed chambers. And the way I came across it was Aisha Tyler my non best friend my best friend in my head she had like a sponsored post about Perry Mason. So you say what you will about influences and sponsored posts, but they're very effective on Katie if it's through way of Asia Tyler. Yeah because she she mentioned Perry Mason and it just sounds like nothing share, right? It's like a cage. It just sounds like a show. Yeah. Cool. Whatever and I'm like, let's just give it a guard. Because the boys is coming up soon and I should tell doing the after show for the boys. Sir You. Know you you. You Trust your trust you know wherever you cam. For Sure In a healthy sense I, know I know we're not really best friends See. Look into your eyes betray your words. I imagine I imagine I imagine it is I. Should Tell. If this was a video podcast, I would put up a photo of myself. Tell. When she came for the COMIC CON OT wouldn't be in the picture will just be mean. Asia. But generally full this show is a quality is quality is hollow talk will they are you can never deny I really enjoyed it. I guess this is where I am pull up both of my Monaco's which we've established. It becomes a spectacle and say, this is definitely a show that you. It, it has very nice pacing but what it also means for the tick toxin snapchat. So this generation is you need to appreciate this show, right? It's not going to be you know splashing from all engines from all angles really even the pilot it I think it really started to build brick by brick so I I wouldn't say it's slow, but it's it's the nature for these type shows that a set. In the nineteen thirties where you really are. Not, painstakingly. But you but you are accumulating the emotional investment or even just the character development because there's some. Glorious character development in this show or T. So overall loving it. Great Times You know we don't know when we'll get the knicks season but it is a delicious handful of episodes to delight in There are quite of. I guess you could call themes or like sort of clusters. Of Characters that I wanNA talk about but I do want to just quickly quickly go through the cost and where we've seen the cost before. So Matthew Race. I fucking love him? I did not watch the Americans and I like based on who like based on his performance in Perry. Mason I feel like out of Split and out of spooky mountainous I need to go and watch the Americans you do 'cause I fucking love him he also had a stint on the TV show brothers and sisters But the the Mercer prising and I still don't know how this feels in my soul. He was in something called death comes to Pemba and he actually played Fitzwilliam Dossey. have no idea what death comes to Palm Bella is Pamela. Was this setting Kenya. Has. That comes to what death comes to. All right I'm like Jennifer from thirty rock away I say some things with English infliction. Jar. Listen to thirty rock episode friends and lovers I don't know how I feel about anyone playing missed the Doc- except for Colin, Firth So, I. Guess. My Love Affair With Matthew Rees was cut short. But they Juliet Rylance who plays Dila straight who is kind of not even recognizable on IMDB further she was in something called MC Mafia American. Gothic and the Nick you watch a lot of TV shows. So I wasn't sure if you've seen any of the. Okay. So that's fine. Chris Stroke he's actually secretly a dialing the foyer reference. When they see us which we covered it. Last year. Last year what. He's also plays Lucious Fox in Gotham, great series. Need to finish it. He was also in the newsroom. He's a lot of things. And you what? Like he's that guy what he pops up on your like Oh, it's nice to have him. It's my sound just just continue to be in our screens in in our eyes. And just just loss. Lee, we have John Lithgow. Calm Lithgow come and fight me bitches. Unless you're actually from the lithgow lineage, then I will accept it speaking of lineage he is in the crown third rock from the Sun obviously is probably the most like go to's sort of recognition you would have for him similar to. Our Bryan Cranston with Malcolm in the Middle Right. Are you telling me Are, you telling me your most recognizable role? In the middle. Saying no, but I'm saying I'm saying third rock from the sun is probably the first introduction you have John and it's something that you would reminisce and look back on. Okay. What's covering breaking? That is a big succession for Gulf no I agree with you cover breaking bad on late the show do over really good job. About a year ago and check it out. I think we will eventually where TV movie podcast. With you guys in ten years and also most notably. John Lithgow was we'll showing Shrek or tate. He played Lord. Farquaad. But I had literal Oga in our episodes. So that's why we didn't get to talk about John Lithgow. And that is exactly what happened. But that is the cost I guess it was nice to take a little trip. For Ho- where the actors were and where we've seen them some new some we haven't seen before. But let's let's tackle this shirt in clusters. Obviously, there are a lot of themes that do get explored. But I think the best way to discuss this show is in classes and the characters in proximity to those classes. So let's obviously start off with the titular character Perry. Mason he starts off as a private investigator, and then he transitioned into becoming a lawyer. A lot of the book focuses on him as a lawyer but I really appreciate it in the show that we got to see his rise and growth in career I actually do prefer scruffy Mason. I must say. A freemason if you will Even. When he was all like you know when he was all cleaned up, it's I. Still didn't buy it but anyway. So, let's talk about Perry Mason as a character. I will say you know before halfway through the pilot I turn to you and I said he really he strikes me as McNulty from the wire. Way He does questionable things, but it's always for the intended. Good. and he's he's fucking great at what he does. So for a lot of the time even if you don't like him, he does get grace's we're probably other people wouldn't agreed lock I I loved the way we saw real true. Unapologetic character development. In Perry Mason. And his relationship with E B engine. Oh how much that sort of meant to him He saw AB as a father and Renault he had issues with this sort of parents growing up. Welcome daddy would exactly and the fucked up EIB meant so much to him especially after his stint in the wall. And to lose him in such a way. I think it's also gave him an opportunity sort of leave OPPORTU. E was. E B would've wanted for him. So I, just fully got on board with us or of Perry Mason Character Development and how Della Street sort of initiated provide just because of how Mason Soul in. Intertwined with the sort of legalities of how everything works and how he understands people interesting level. So it was all just unraveling before is I was all for it. I was buying it he's performance was just Lucky. You can't watch Marty recent things that he's not putting his all in in a row. Absolutely. He's one of those people that are truly are under eternal. Thank who talked about him much the Americans, was really great watching him just do this. So seamlessly, Perry? Mason. As well, like you don't see him acting. Yeah yeah it's like someone just rolled out of bed and it's M. Perry Mason WHO's Matthew Reese Mate exactly aside from a Thespian Oh, absolutely I like that you touched on his ptsd as well. I like the way that it was a laid out in the series and we were we were slowly given some more information we were informed about you know the this disgrace that he felt and to to find out that it wasn't even like it was a necessary evil, right? He will saying his comrades dying and he obviously he he did the right thing but this that guilt that is weighed on him and It continues to weigh on him and we see that unravel through the series. It's a classic book or also conundrum. Roseau. It's. It's sort of you've survived this wall by the things that you had to do and watching your friends die having to kill most of them are at least to pull them out of their misery. It will be hard for anyone to sort of focus or to try and pull themselves up by the bootstraps to be functional in society and to see him sort of bottle that and try to be a good father a present father. At least the effort that he makes to. Is. Quite admirable in my opinion. Yeah, and you know we talk about it in a couple of episodes but he He loved and he loved in the capacity that he was able to. in many cases, it wasn't enough in many cases it was through his vices, but he really was a protagonist that you just latched onto. And I think I think the reason for that is because it was so genuine you know that survivor's guilt you were talking about it didn't need to be explicitly said to us as the audience we felt the motions in his. Investigating cases the way he cared so much for Charlie Dodson and wanting to get justice for him and to see that the things are still shocking because the way tally dotson was died and what they did to his body afterwards in in sewing of his eyes open. It shows you that you could go through shit and there's still some things fucked up things in the world that could. fucking shock a mess you up. Yeah and he still has that sense of humanity in him and he still has that capacity for love because that's also what it means. You feel the highs and lows of all immersions and I definitely love the way that the series tackled this You know we we love document love, Morbid Humor. and there was definitely droves of that in this series for sure you spoke a bit about him as wanting to be a present father. So I guess just a little note for Linda Mason. I I. Don't think there's any Raido. Any Wrong I think it's unfortunate that they couldn't stay together. But a lot of lives calamities do unfortunately result in couples in marriages breaking apart pot, right? And I think the casualty to the circumstance. Whether it's him shutting himself off emotionally or him drowning himself in a pool full of liquor Hendrick Lamar reference. I think. I didn't think there was any evil person in that married lawn. No. Not Malicious intent unless we're like fully in the Perry Mason camp and we can't see objectively I do feel like they're just victims of the circumstance you're but it was interesting to see Linda definitely has boundaries. With Perry and we see that you know when they're on the way to the funeral. And he drops by but there's definitely more. Story that I hope that they explore in the next season. but it definitely denotes to all one of the saddest things. One of the saddest things was when we see the gift that he bought for his son be returned. You think it was because he couldn't afford the postage or do you think those because Linda centreback Lena centered back. Here fucking bitch off. Victim of succumbs annoyed Israel in the wrong and then. Make Minute. I've junked Perry Mason cool eight. What can I tell you But yes. So so Perry is obviously integral to this. Show their touch points full Perry throughout this year Let's move onto some more classes. Yeah So I'm assuming this show. is going to like h season is going to capture. Cases It didn't seem like it until the lost episode of the First Season Way we have Emily Dodson completely embraced the radiant assembly of God. So that kind of closed story I thought they were GonNa, open that again because of a mistrial and then they introduced this New Lady, right? So I think season two is going to follow another storyline in my broaden like the rate and assembly of Gordon Correctness but I think they're going to explore another story in any case season one really surrounds the Dodson's. So I want to talk about well, Pretty Much Emily Matthew, Chali, Heaven Bagley his Matthews Dad and also George Cannon as well. So just I guess every sort of compensation we'll touch all of this characters. Okay. So we we started off with the kidnapping Oh Charlie Dodson We see a kid dropped in a blanket in trump is a trauma or train trolley. Trains are like they have their tracks, right? Champs embedded within the straight and I didn't know what to expect as like okay. This is a quite general's kidnappers to do this and just leave the baby the baby all sort of easy. It really never is simple. And then for them to get the baby and the WAFA super excited and I'm like, okay what's what's the catch this? I'm thinking surely going to happen only the Father Mafi to lift the WHO up and reveal his is will were sewn open Those messed talk even dre alone man. To Kid in your mind you're thinking was this done when he was still alive you know you go through all the scenarios to you had just feel the. The. The, the pain of using the puzzle that you love. I don't know it was just one of those things that I didn't really expect and it happened in the fall sort of five minutes of the show. All's like. We're going to get it. Here. It's a wild ride. Ride. It will be a while right and sort of reveal how all this happened and they're the sort of a fad the love triangle all sorts of aspects of make it a really intriguing story. For us at least as audiences, you're trying to sort of at least for me Australia's sort of trying to think who did it. and. I always suspected the wife. Always thought yeah. You hot something to do with it. It just seems so obvious but I think that that's that denotes to what's wrong with all of us right 'CAUSE I. 'cause they definitely get the shirt in that way it was very easy to make that. Assumption, especially, if you'll fucking in the next room and you leave your baby for that guy to nominate ticket through the whole, you like those so many scenarios. Like. It wasn't as if there was a misdirect, it wasn't they like they were deliberately forcing us to believe it was emily, but it definitely played on our prejudices of. The cheating woman. and Matthew was the cuckold. Right. So it definitely played to the. Shitty. We. Did it so brilliantly When we those attorney in the series and it was definitely in the last half of the first season. Where we thought to think, shit she's just the lady that had an affair like and it doesn't go beyond that. You know what I mean a lot of the series Iowa's so irate even just emily being in scene was pissing me off right and that is credit to the show to have a character that you just fucking hate so much. and to turn that around in less episodes that they established that is incredible writing. Because if you want to tell me that I would have one iota of sympathy emily's direction I will tell you to again for cough. bought. It just it doesn't so well, and it really felt this is definitely you know we talk about You know shows that feel like the episodes are all the same. This is really an event Perry Mason is assured that benefits from a week to week installment. Watch it. You can see humid you theorize you discuss you reflect on how you felt about characters, and then you get another tasty morsel a week later. Surely, you could binge this but it's it's benefit Israeli in the way that it is delivered. Yeah I'm a big fan of sort of Tronto. See how I'm myself. I could sort of bench this I think the time in which it let's see my with what you've just consumed is sort of pivotal. Yeah. Because it makes you reflect on the sort of thinking especially when you have this happening Super. No sign of the Times where women been. Really Value Warren. Looked as sort of equal partners. L Like a side dish to the main meal. So for for them to sort of angle and I was also on the train of just fuck L. icon stunned emily at all. Yeah. To where the the sort of nuances twiddle and I was like it was a conflict in my mind like what the faulk. And are starting to ask myself questions and even when you know in between episodes in between sort of five, six seven as we have to wait for the next episode I, was always sort of thinking about what it meant for emily other time. Yeah. All how toll unraveled because it's one of those issues like back. Like, yeah. Of course, you'd fucking say that if you guilty or no right. But it's very interesting because what we know is on the surface with emily and then even with Matthew. Wean. You from the first episode that he was gambling away you know any sort of livelihood for the family. He was drinking it all away. He was a spoilt son of a very rich man. Right, so we knew all of this, yet we kept pointing the finger towards emily. Interesting right. And I love how there's a broader story for you know corrupt religious institutions because again when you're ready friends and lovers, we will dive into that but I really enjoyed the way that we were taken on this journey and we you know we had homework. We definitely had her what what's the episode? Contemplate about it except that you're shady person for thinking the whole time. And let's do it again. Next week. Right. So it was very compelling I. Felt I was like made. This is a this is what do you call it a shutting close? It's it's a no brainer mate like her and then they just kept reinforcing. Out Prejudices and playing on that and it's like Oh fuck where the Problem watching this. So it was really interesting to go through that and I really I really felt Perry Mason when he kept the thread in that matchbox, right? And it was, it was his it was his internal quest to find us. And we even see that you know literally at the end of the series of Alice. As, well, but surrounding the Dodson's it really was sensationalism and you know I haven't further down in the list if we have time to talk about the media and the way the Paparazzi was you know that really swell a lot of doubt as well and you know it amplified details probably didn't need to be amplified as well. but I do have that as a point further down. Is there anything else you WANNA say about the dozens? Yeah. The husband is crop man. He looked also innocent. He has this sort of innocent. Yes. It's sort of baby fees going for him. It looks like you wouldn't fly but sort of start learning how is a partner? How is husband and then you sort of line the subtle intricacies of his relationship with the father who he kept secret from everyone. Yeah and then she only found out on the way back Awesome. Best Up Shit. Oh, absolutely absolutely and the way that it was. It was essentially a perfect crime because she was the helpless housewife, right that had a tryst. With George Gannon and that same black the end of the headline and probably they probably would have gotten away with if it wasn't for Pesky Perry Mason. Oil. Yeah But it was very it was very compelling to have them as the canopies four season one with Perry, Mason and to see the way that Mason would interplay with all of the characters with emily in particular You know I think a lot of his attitudes also reflected how we were feeling as well as as continued to George Gannon I do wonder I do wonder you know with these sorts of characters when you see well, I guess without spoiling any other movie or TV show but. When you have a character that is used for a specific purpose and then their purpose has been fulfilled do they not see coming that they are loosened and they're going to die like did he realize that he was going to die? Probably. Yeah. and even even that even. Death was a bit of a catalyst in the series as well because that's where you had. Perry Mason and then you also have the intersection with officer Drake as well with the TIF right I also love. Perry and Pete go into the morgue as well. So like into the body, we also have vigil shades. WHO's the morgue guy saying that he can't officially you know deal with the body so they just dumped it in a gold ground. He'll come back to him regardless. Yeah. Absolutely and it's like made like if you can't do it this way I'm going to find a way you going to do it I think because he he was under the impression that they told him to come over for sex stuff. Downstairs and they sort of disappointing. So those funny I think even just Perry Pete in vigil I would love to just watch you know. It gave me a viable bonkers McNulty. Sort of denominational absolut. Absolutely. Absolutely. But. Let's let's. Let's move onto the next sort of costs that we have the radiant assembly of God. Sir In this class. So we have sister Alice mckeon Birdie mckeag in his Alice's mom One of the more nurture bull sort of elders. We have Erik Seidel, and then we also have Jim. Hicks who was an accountant also worked with George. Gannon I guess also, if you WanNa just talk generally about the radiant assembly of God. I think one of the sort of interesting aspect of all is that the ratings assembly of God I think would be sort of an overlaying narrative. To different, seasons. They'll build on while they focus on sort of. Seasonal case by case basis sort of true detective and Shit, Oh so I'm I'm fully. Bought into this sort of idea of how this would play out and the fact that we had. Alibaba. Keegan. uh-huh Tatyana Lava. I see. Best friend. Best friend. You don't have a picture with like I do oh soon enough. We'll get to walking shoes for Bay and see. He street or at least our relationship with the motto which is messed up absent, and it explains so much as wash is the way she is. So she believes the everything she. Does believe that she has a direct line to God epilepsy sort of seizures is away the she communicators God or at least that's what she fought campaign for what is yeah. It's really is insane. So to see how the model sort of plays to her daughters weakness at least taking advantage of all. Like literally, we see is saying of her offering her daughter for them to get extra gas. God. I was like surely GonNa do this those one of the most disturbing scenes in this solely as a parent that is a line that you would not cross right and then the end of it all is still come preach about. Religion in garden and I'm sitting here thinking luck a lot of the sort of things that we have in the world are like that where people in their private lives act in such an a bar and way. And then that doesn't translate to who the hour is what we preach. It just pisses me off absolutely and like you were mentioning it is sad that. Alice did believe that she was. The Messiah Essentially and you know it's also very sad that even on a conscious level if she had some sort of sense that she wasn't the Messiah, the alternative is what her mother taking advantage of her. Her sexuality for gas money. Like. That it is a grim alternative to what she turns to believe if she chose whether she genuinely believed. That is some fucked up. The way that this series thoughts is you know we are introduced to Alice and she is strong and she is she's very certain of who she is. And as the series a unfolds. She starts to unravel and we start to see that she's essentially a puppet. She doesn't really she doesn't really have overruling power over the church's directions over a board exactly absolutely you know and even so obviously the operation she had no, say it. But even in a sermon sort of sense she was censored in what she could say what she couldn't say stick to the script stick to the script in deed and Birdie was definitely you know the property. And that became very clear. Throughout the series as well well, also became clear that body analysts were all just being used by the Board to Oh. Yes. For their own sort of advancement and I also thought it was interesting that this is set in the Nineteen Thirties I. thought it was interesting that a woman was at the helm of one of the most successful religions right? Yes because she was pretty maybe thought on also just maybe just because it was ideally ceremonial, it didn't mean anything to the underlying value that she couldn't change or act on anything by herself and the fact that she was a puppet. So dot makes it. More believable in that same, we're talking about like the Urji religions like women are not at the top. Or true true true. All like or even on a pastor price level. So I just I thought that was a bit interesting. If anyone has any sort of interesting tidbits about that let me. Because we can plow glosses together but I thought that was interesting. It was set in the nineteen thirties and she's a woman and she was at the helm of the church I just thought that was interesting that you know all on one side you have. Emily Dodson who doesn't have a voice and she just serves to be the wife and the mother but then you also have alice on the other side of the coin where you know people actually. Come to her for solace. Right, So it was interesting. It was definitely interesting I really really enjoy. Digging beneath the Radio Assembly of God and saying all of their investments in shady ship and how they've become. So embedded in their investments I think Seidl was the one to say in the series. There's no way that they could live off the contributions learn here. Museum debt Oh yeah. And it was it was funny to see the way that Della Street and Perry Mason will talk to each other the way Della Street stole the titles essentially and he's like you stole the title So it was interesting to say, you know how entrenched this church was Clare Right and how they just kept amassing debt. Maybe this is how I will eventually understand the Netflix model like they eventually, they just kept amassing debt and debt and debt and. Of like Michael Scott when he branches off Dundee Mifflin any awesome to crunch the numbers Again Yeah. That's essentially what Joe Gannon Jim Hicks was doing right and does I. Like you crunch them anymore, right? Like I've hit as well as I can. But there's no more. You can't do this like it's just you've got a hoping debt and you need to address it right? And that's obviously toward his demise as well. but it was it was just interesting to see how how entrenched and the roots that they have within society. Oh so true. I I, also, who I also appreciated that they talked about how they also, you know a lot of the debt that they had. One of them was purchasing the radio station as well. You can imagine even back then like that would have been a very effective way. Right An. PODCAST IF YOU WILL To be able to share that further information same that it didn't necessarily make me uncomfortable but it did pretty much speak to a lot of my thoughts and opinions in this sort of subject matter when Alice was trying to get the man to walk. Yeah. Yeah we see a lot of those only. Oh Yeah. But usually the people that they're healing a plants so they know the part of it too but this was all sort of the. Way The human mind is. Remarkable. When you when you saw the Adrenalin of a moment when you think of various possible and you get to stunned up. That's all well and good until you're not in that situation anymore and your body goes back to default, you can fly. You can literally flag. Came Peel reference. So it was really interesting that does speak to if we're talking about the argument that I believed that she was ordained from on high. That will definitely be a sane to point towards that. Yeah because she hears someone and she should enough like if she if she had half doubted him ability, she probably would occur someone that was in on it right but she's some random guy from the crowd. Yeah. I think that's where the the model is would have been where to plant someone in. Where Alice can come and tell them to stand up and walk the walk on the dance on the stage and all. This was all you know oddly bench she picked someone who? Didn't really have anything to do with sort of you know who's actually really paralyze and they stood up because of all the journal in Russia thinking in the mental sort of the the mental t to the moment. When Donald Subtle fail he was like dollars just for a moment and then a win bucked my chair and then alice like yeah. But you did you believe enough now that becomes a full by. There's always walls into strong. That's the reason why you. Walk, there's always an answer It's interesting because I thought birdie would've tied that Bo a bit more neatly because. We see, and I guess we can discuss and theorise with Alice's newest revelation that she can bring Chali from the dead. Whether that is ethical or not, and whether that is fair on the parent, we'll talk about that in a second but let's just talk about allison her believing that she can raise the child from the debt. I think it's I think it's quite obvious to conclude that birdie arrange for another baby to take the place of Charlie and they removed Chali wherever he is, but they removed him. So it would be like like Jesus resurrecting, right? Jesus Lonzo Lazarus is Lazarus a place. Lazarus is a guy who died and then was brought back to live all I guess if you want to add to the List Job Bluetooth from arrested. We make jokes. So we don't hurt anyone to deeply about religion. But. Yeah. So with birdies whole orchestration, I wanted to bring this point here because we talks about the fragility of the human mind it's it's it's astounding what the body or what the mind can do when it's under massive sort of adrenaline and I want to bring this back to Emily Dodson. So we have, I'm pretty sure it's the last episode nearing the end of the series emily goes to visit Chali because there's been a buzz that Charlie has been resurrected. Alice is still on the loose but. Obviously, emily wants to go and see the baby. And there was I don't think there was any ambiguity she was she made comments I think she said that Charlie was bigger and he had long. So she she made distinctive comments about how this is not her child right so I don't think there's any ambiguity about whether she believed was her child or not. But what heartbreakingly happens within that same sane is she starts to accept that this is Charlie now. And I wanted to talk a bit about that. It's no that she accepts that that's Chali she pretends to think that's Charlie I think. Is a way of accept it? Yes. Because when she was saying all sort of different differences between the new baby and Charlie, you could see his reaction thinking, Gosh. She not going to buy into this and once you realize what bodies angles she said you know what I've just been through hell its way through way too much. I had. A had to laval who brandt behind my back and did things that I love or shouldn't do. Illinois ally So she's he with any sort of Ford Path and this was a way to buying for her future and for hot lava purpose in life. Blamer for something like you'd have to be an asshole to take that away from him. So yeah, in my mind I'm like you know what you have nothing else going for you one just cling to this and go with it. How sad is that there? was that we as viewers also nerve? That's not Charlie but you know just like some people cling to religion sometimes you just need that for comfort. But that was definitely, it was not a happy ending for Emily Donaldson by any measure. No. Because, imagine having to deal with Matthew like just in general and what it did generate he was. And then to find out the man that you well, what was the court? What was the court that the DA may not bond kept saying let's go to an island in the book. Yeah actually yes. She was the emotional dump truck in this series. And to be fair, we dumped a law on her emotionally as well. Yeah. Like we were. We were a few scenes a few episodes away from grabbing pitchforks. Emily. Dalton. But it is very interesting saying what will unfold with the Radio and assembly of God because it seems like Emily is endorsing it. Right. So I guess we'll see what that means and what the plays will be in the next season. Let's move on to another club stop I wrote cops. But then in brackets mostly crooked cops. So the non. Crooked cop that we have is Paul Drake and his wife Clara Drake we have Jonas the crookedest of crooked. And Jane. Holcomb. When you look up, Paul? Drake I think he's one of the people that has massive garter development in this. Absolutely he's happy to play the pop. He's happy to play the part of a black cop without his happy to play the part of a block corporate rocking the boat. He knows what he stands in society. He's happy to go with that. He has a wife who's seemingly soup akin to just. Accept the situation and you know as long as we we surviving that's fine. But for for drake, there's so much to laugh more than surviving and they should be out for everyone else. You need to be able to thrive. For you to be able to thrive with see drake struggling without sort of aspect, where where do you draw the line between just? Accepting everything around you. That's massively corrupt that molly insensitive that's. Pushing you making sure that you stay down to the point where he starts crying. Because, he has and listening to the Wi fi you see those sort of. Official expressions when you're talking to a friend saying. I don't care as long as we just stay bio you know we. Will take this money because it will bring to the table. I don't care and think she i. think she had a Vinnie all of the perception of being a cop, but at the same time. She wasn't realizing that he's a black cop right and this was in the nineteen thirties definitely parallels that you can draw even to today unfortunately. But this was in the nineteen thirties way even he admitted himself, there was some limitations You know there was some arrests that he couldn't make printing much There are some things that he didn't need to turn a blind eye to but even within his own realm of power, he did find that sense of power right and what pissed me off about Clara was she only understood when it happened to her or at least she was there when happened when they went. It was just a cute leisurely thing where they went to a beach somewhere else. Right and she's like, Oh, well, he's a COP and. Then the white pulp was like Whoa UK's get lost like you know what I mean like it didn't matter one iota right and to see that sort of interplay what I also really appreciate about Perry. Mason is they didn't shy away from song the time and I guess the even the sort of casual racism be third in his way whether it's through ns whether it's the captain they didn't shy away from that but it didn't become salacious like a quinton. JEREM Tarantino Joint. So it really. It did it well I i. definitely want to give some accolades in that regard. But at the end of the day Paul, Drake was as they would say in the Wyatt not true police who's police all day long and he and I I do like you talked about him having immense character development and he understood is limitations. But what I do like is he did test that limitations. There were lessons that he didn't need to learn, but he had to learn given the climate. Right and he did try and push back. But then he was forced to change his report because that's not what innocent whole Komo reporting. Right, and that's where we have that cute sort of interplay with him in Perry Mason. Because it's like you see two very capable people and you just want them to work together gay because it's tough ought to just be the person that the expect you to be and told the line. Yeah and you see that he did his homework and he went to the roof talk because he knew it just didn't add up it didn't make sense and he was the one to find the possible. SORTA. Teeth right Knew we could. Unite Ourselves by partial tape. The year, reference household and. Partial is a part of the dentures. It gives a better meaning to word of mouth if you'll pardon the PUN. Why. Give me a fake law for T I? Give you some real rambunctious laughs. Know if dissolved around boxers anything. just like Clara deserve anything. But yeah, there were definitely moments especially with us offering to pay for the groceries like. Those painful groceries and this sending a message off like keeping you less right making you feel less and keeping you in your place so to speak. So that didn't sit well with me but I'm glad that it didn't shy away from Mensa, don't sit where with you right. Let speak a bit about innocent holcomb. Off The most corrupt people ever the most corrupt people ever You know there are many moments that reinforce Joanna's and how well I guess you'd call them evil or at least how much he followed through on loose ends right and we see that was Seidel and I don't know about you. But I knew he wasn't going to make it to wherever he was going off. And when they got out of the cards I come. In the tumbleweeds man it was written in the tumbleweeds. The gallons of love. But yet it's interesting. I. Wonder if these people are like you feel that impending Seidel we got to say so he didn't get to see Gannon but Seidel, you could see that. He had no idea. He was none the wiser it was ready to seep his Kern on a beach somewhere right sir. It was just very interesting to. The way that Ns he was very. Effective I would say he didn't leave anything to chance and I have like face blindness especially when characters when too many characters get introduced to me I get confused over who's who but I don't think it was I don't think I think they shared Ns sir. If you remembered what Ns look like you knew he was guilty from the start. But be was a surprise. Like. I like yeah. It's just information overload I'm sure there's a term for that maybe it's just Katie Overload here knows. Joe. Ns was very effective but also at the same time, you know as much as other people who were loosened and the clock was ticking. So as his yeah what did you think about one of the final scenes with Joanna's and Jane Hokum? I didn't see coming. You did I did I didn't know I thought making away that Hill. He's already got on read of the loose ends in sidell full those it. But the thing is he knows too much and he'll he'll build a grudge. and He. He was quite You know well versed in the brothel as well. So he was very integral to that right and also with Charlie Dalton dying because of him overdosing should press milk right? So. It just all lead back to Ennis and the fact that you know Perry Mason like a dog with a burn, he wasn't going to let thacker. And that was made very clear in what annoyed me I. Think it was the last episode where he I think the star of the scene were a court and Perry is grilling and understand and you can see ns sweating. All's like, yes. For. This. On you've got him. Only for them to revive studio back to Mason. His House with its sort of a mock trial visualization. Piss me off but I don't like being played our already getting. excited. Because, you know the play. But it just drove towards the fact that they didn't have enough evidence against Ennis. So, they couldn't nail him by wanted him to be in jail death was such an easy Copa for him. Absolutely. But what what could you do? There wasn't anything you could do. And he he was starting to perk up a bit too much Definitely. So but the interesting thing about that was it was very, it was very Shakespearean tragedy. And I'm like I heard Poconos and he's the next one to. Like. He's doing miss. Mate it's common for you. For you my just make just continue to make yourself useful like little finger from game with earns. Just make us off. We know how that ended for little. Finger. Spoiler. But I. Think you know game with just disappointing in the last season at least anyway. So. I feel like actually I feel like if you've watched game of thrones, you've watched it I don't think there's going to be a new wave of game of thrones right now. Yeah. I don't think so and that's not even the biggest spoiler in game of thrones anyway Well, at least I I'm just down without walled. I'm not looking forward to the PREQUELS. No I'm ready to delve into something more just something different. Fair enough. But yeah, it was just interesting to see hokum not necessarily revel in it but like surely he knows that it's on the horizon for him as well. Right? So they are the law sold of that I wanted to dive into is I guess cold it like the legal system, right? So we have E B we have Della Street we have may not bonds who is the scoffing opposition the district attorney we have the judge. Fred right and then we also have Hamilton Burger? Who Helps Coach when we talked about that fantasy sold to whence he's the one that's coaching Perry Mason, and he's also the Fella that might have potentially recruited Pete. For the future seasons. So let's talk a bit about the legal sorta system in Perry Mason. Allowed a loved. I love DB and while he tried to do. I think you'll Assad seeing. He'd bond so many bridges. Yeah and no one was there for him. Owned I. Don't think he bridges I think people would just fucking selfish. Your I. Can I think he's bondage is like with his partner he'd stolen embezzled Amani Oh. So. I'M ROMANTICIZING He Don Shit. And his he he sort of relied that the fact that, oh, we've been bottles for this amount of years. We should be following our common call. You know you'll be there my beckon coal, which is in the case. So he's slowly realized a lot of his friends water really there for him. And Came the subtle Havy Baden for him to carry to accept that he can't do anything for. Emily. And the automatically just led to him. Dying by suicide, which is really sad to see. It was sad i. feel like because it was John Lithgow I was waiting for the next episode because it was like the end of the episode, right? So I was waiting for the next episode to show that like someone intercepted him and he didn't die. But he was gone. Gone I feel like I did didn't accept that I was like what's going on It. Was Interesting like you mentioned at the top of the absurd ab did serve as like a father figure. Four Perry and to to feel that loss through Perry's Lens was definitely something that was to be experienced through the show. especially with Della Street as well. I think we're all trying to figure out what is specific tyra was because she was secretary but she seemed to insert a silky. Feel the secretary and you're also like I. Don't understand why she felt like her opinion as important Okay Faranoff, emily ended up being innocent but I felt like she backed to just Cla, was a woman. Maybe so Of this show for Shaw she was. Like Ella Projection Street. Right Like it was, it was interesting to see how you know. Once it got to either be and Della Street it was kind of already done like Perry was the one that was bringing in all the information. As well. Is there anything you want to say about may not bonds she sleazy men right? He's sleazy than soul woman. Yeah. He didn't have the curse small like Johnny Cochran Awesome. No, he's just down Dadi sleazy lawyer. Yeah. Because I think it was in the closing remarks you know Perry Mason gave a very compelling speech about. Emily Dodson and she's going through and at the end of the day, this is about Chali, and there's nothing really that the prosecution has brought up to even start to build a case against. Emily Right. All they have is the FE and you. They don't really have any sort of compelling evidence that she knew as she was involved in the kidnapping. and. The random right and you have this really inspirational hot felt hot warming space from Perry. Mason and then you have may not bonds coming up and be like she's a whole. You wanted to gossip an island and. But then again, he's the reason why he killed himself at least he played such a big party because he said that if he did not recuse himself. He would reveal the details to the law and get his license revoked that he embezzled. So he was never going to try that case while Noor another he definitely strong onto him. Yeah. Yeah. He flexed in in all of the ways he caught. What do you think about the judge? The judge will always to pro district attorney. Luckily, he was too quick to side with. Me Needed in a lot of emotion. Than at least. Try and understand aspect of of defense. Well, they even had. You know the entertained with ABC and the judge. And ABC's like you're still young enough to make the right decisions. He's like I'm old I give up. That was kind of where he was coming from anything that was easy to conclude. That's what he did. Right So it was, it was interesting to say the into play especially with Perry Mason you know with that legal sort of Weld Mike you could feel that he was out of his depth you with cheering him on and wanting to you just wanted him to do well. Right. Let's talk a bit about Pete Stricklin because you said that they were the bunk and the McNulty of this out fit how do you feel about pate in general along Pete closed they were the two rag-tags took a picture of the Chubby man eating cake off the ladies Pussy Right. PEOs has berries back absolutely to a fault and thank one one of those things where when when Perry was going through a hard time with his just losing his house. And then he took it all out to beat. He's always been this of punching bag for when because he's always close teams role as bad as close to do Perry. So Perez feeling away he's always going to be the punching bag. And it just happened the A was a beat too much. You know it was wanted to many and he said, you know what? I can't do this and fully understand him backing out from the case and accepted it, and I think walk really just pushed him towards going to a different sort of law lawyer end of it was when he launched that he didn't need to bribe. Didn't to bribe a jury Bribery could be so sad what it needs to be a juror because it was three. Paid the person they're still would have been to again be the mistrial Yup fuck man and I think that's what's even more sad because a lot of 'cause you can definitely say an age gap with Pete Strickland and also Perry Mason and whether it's true or not. Pete does you know give himself credit for Teaching Perry? Everything? He knows and it seems like he's going into a point where he realized that. Perry Mason has exceeded him in a lot of senses and not not to say that there's a feeling of inadequacy but I, guess, he felt like there's not much more. He can do like he always felt like his role was to get in and fixed off. Right and in the bribery is a classic example of that, and then once he realized that he doesn't need to do that. Like. Maybe this was his opportunity to try and focus on himself. which is beautiful but it's also very sad because you know for as. As brothel loving. As he was, we did latch onto him as a character really did. More than the women latched onto him. I don't know if you WANNA end listener, but we haven't talked about Lou at all does offense. I do not recognize us as a character in this show. She then the end of it Perry Mason giving her a letter saying she understands she thinks she can take the house with the full blessing I'm like should be solve. Used Perry she. Doing from the get go absolutely. Sort of lottery St really have any sort of affections for him. She will even with with the having sex is about Oh, yes. So of the end of it, I'm like. Could riddance hopefully Perry doesn't go and yes I saw a think Perry will. Ultimately, end up with Alice. So that's what I'm rooting for. Wow you know they put those sprinkles in their full the stands no you eating. All of them. Isn't the first time I've grout on. What are you doing to me? Not Yeah Loupe was a fucking problem and Like a lot of the times in media or in life you know the men gets what they want sexually and the women is made to feel empty I. Don't think the answer to that is to make the woman the other way. Right but in any case, that's what we got in the show I. Guess the last thing that is a bit more sweeter that I do want to end on is Della Street and her relationship with Hazel because she was also in assure that you watched as well. We Love Hazel. She's in All's it. Last one standing. I heard I heard that is the last time you ever mentioned that on the cost it is because when she left us stop watching I show. I just wanted to mention them introducing LGBT story and how it didn't feel. Like they were fully hedging their bets, the storyline being the most important thing it was very natural. really was they just they just put it in the story and we were there. And I definitely enjoyed that storyline. But also this fucking series friends and lovers. Thank you for balking. And docking her. On. This journey of the hatred series Perry Mason. We're going to finish the segment we call for your friends are. Going to reference to shows if you love Mafi. Reese'll funding on their America's. Eight ended which I've not yet seen the final season I'm saving it for when Katie actually watches the show. All right super exciting times ahead, and then the second one would be often block who if you really want to see to Genoa sleigh just fully it each and every level acting chops is just amazing. Super Great. So those are two references. I also want to commend liberty on editing out two hours with talking about Tatyana. I will reference the while. And where you can stay why to us a day to day basis on twitter and Instagram, we off for your part Radisson Eli. Still. Class of your life to leave the reviews. And fees is next week.

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"How many how many how. Many how. Manny one two three four. Five six seven nine. Who WOULD I get up to breaking news? Welcome to a new episode. How many the only podcasts. On the Internet accounts I am. What does Jesse Jackson joining me? Today is Jerry and junior. And today we're all about honoring those that have left US junior. Yes obviously a couple of our favorite topics movies because maybe watching as a sport and de because depth I guess as a sport too so we'd love talking depth. We love talking reaper twice a year. We will definitely do not fear although when it comes to copyright and it's funny every time we use. Don't fear the reaper. In any kind of podcast forum immediate cease and desist just saying from the estate of Blue Oyster. So we can clearly say we don't got any blue Easter Colt. Working GonNA seven little toy store called. I don't have any blue eyes. They're call eight thirty four pairs last time around. Where were you close to work? And it's seven eleven twice a year. We like to go through an honor the dead and see how many actually contribute to society. So I have done the research on this and I have a list of ninety. One names for us to do and determine whether they Actually did anything in this world so all of that ninety one. Let's get some numbers out there. How many of these dead people are going to count? And let's start with Jesse so I'M GONNA say that all of them counts. The people love them and they're up ninety three thirty five. All Right Bob all go a little lower than other thirty thirty low balling all of these great people. Gary I'm going with. Very Kevin Smith like thirty seven in a row. I think you guys are way underselling. The amount of significant desks this year. I will successfully enough. Obviously I've done the research. So my numbers tainted but even though. I'm making a pick knowing the list. I don't know how many you guys are GonNa Count. I'M GONNA go fifty five wow key. Tsa Very Nice now Scott how many do you think could make today? We don't have his burden walk. Probably would guess sixty nine forty five. Yeah but I said No. Let's so so we don't have Scott's wall to do research so we're going to have to wing it if you guys noticed any that I'm missing for many of the months Feel free to let me know. And we'll add them in. Could you get yours from wikipedia? Yes the commission look a PD and other reliable news sources never on what about woods on run to get any? That's online dot com okay so starting in July. These aren't in any kind of order within the month. Itself Tyler skaggs. Baseball player passed away in July deal at the time. Big News story at the time right because it happened here. Yes he does a big story but he's kind of a special player so no so everybody's a no on that one. How ABOUT SID? Raymond American composer Grammy Winner. He did west side story. He was the composer of West side story. Now it's a big. It's a big movie everybody's consensus actually. That's tough for me. So you'll be on the fence. It's like I'm not some big fan of his and everything is done and everything else based on what you just said. I'll be very tempted to say. Yes because that's a really big deal yet that Broadway. That is a significant Broadway play. It's well known I'd just never hear that name associated with that. It's always here. You know other names associated with westside through Sondheim's Sondheim didn't he? Yes yes oh you. It's got to me. I have to know the name like the base is okay. I'll say no to four seven how about PD Jones American football player. He was portrayed in. Remember the titans. I don't think just I would not put that as a yes. I mean I love for them. Titans as you know if you've listened to our football films episode. This works yes. That's one of our favorite films but I would not call that. He was terrible defender. He couldn't he's he was way too sensitive but hurt when the coaches would yell at him. I honestly I got to say. No if it'd been Gary of course that's in. I love that movie involved in. You're a great movie but remember the Titans yes remember. Pd No actor yes. I know not all the person's based on yet now I think we make it our first. Yes here and this person was portrayed in four versus Ferrari by shame from walking dead Lee. Iacocca yes automobile executive worked for writer. Young yes just like three seconds. You all literally echoed in. The rule was still in the middle of the room. When you said did you say that that was a consensus? Yes right everybody. Everybody's wow gary. He's on the fence line that my dad had dogs when I was growing up and he was mad because he said. Get Your Butt. Ready Italy IACOCCA's charge sleep seventy dollars for a little plastic gear. Yeah no makes your point you. I remember when he took over. Ford GonNa win things for doing really bad. I think he was involved with the mini vans. Look Chrysler Yeah those desma. Yeah for people in the executive world. His book was a must read right. Everybody in the eighties. He was the biggest guy in the business world. I mean they even remember. There was a Saturday night. Live fake commercial. I think Joe Piscopo was playing him and they were he was so at talking about all the stuff that was made in America and they and they would go through each part and some guy would come up to no no made in Japan and finally they got the floor mats. Yes formats made in America far match. Yes Chrysler Plymouth out to prove that made in America means something all right This one more is a bit than anything on this list. Jared lorenzen giants won't Rg three we all those. The does America as a whole consider him to be a significant death. He's not even the first jarrod you think of Jarrett's richest so he's a no then right. Yeah I would say no. I know who he is. But not all right. How about Artie? Johnson American comedian and actor Roland Martin's Laffan Emmy Award winner. Yes very interesting interview. Steam surly supercilious. Yes that's census right first ballot. How about I put this one for you. Jesse specifically Eddie Jones not not the JEETER's not unanimous new Eddie Jones. Not The basketball player. American actor was on Lois and Clark He was in a League of their own. He was in the terminal. But KAZIRO. Lois and Clark P one Jesse I thought maybe you would be familiar with this guy. You ever heard of Eddie Jones. So he was in the terminal now he is terminal. Look him he is yes. He is a one of the well-known character actors that guy. Yeah I've seen him before. Yeah I would say he fits those. Oh yeah that guy. There actually was a website. This did that for Awhile yes. I agree with him so just a year. Yes Gary Yeah those pictures. Yeah based on the picture not the main said no but three out of four we will say yes. How about Cameron Boyce? Who was an actor Looks like he was kind of a kid actor. He was on Jesse GROWNUPS and the descendants. Anybody familiar with Cameron Boyce. I'm looking at the picture. Don't recognize them about and we we actually just did a segment on rock and Roll Hall of fame about eight months ago but James. Hinky he was an American Journalist for rolling stone and the Rock and Roll Hall of fame newsouth. Par Raider no not Mr Hanky journalists were rolling stone and he was the curator of the rock and Roll Hall of fame. Nothing against family that I would not have that consensus with everybody. That nominations Hankie. He's the curator the rock and Roll Hall of fame. Yes I didn't think they're gonNa Hall of fame was great. Oh Wow turn on the rock and roll turned on it. Listen I love rock and roll more than I love Blues. But I'll take stacks over the rock and Roll Hall of fame any day of the week. Robert Hall of fame has all the AMMO in the world. And it's considering what they've got to work with. It's Pretty Lame John Q. Shop until I've read all of the rock and Roll Hall of Fame Plex. I can't make informed which is all right. I think this next one is going to count. How about Ross Perot? Yes can billionaire. Businessman Philanthropist yes consensus. Yes right hold on quit now do you. Now is this the way we're going to play the game here? Are you guys? GonNa keep asking asinine question. So you see some dirty pitchers. Is that what you require? All right now I think this one's GonNa Count as well. The Great Rip Torn Years Learn Andrew. Show men in black but his best role of outside of Bee's master already got finger. He was the dad. So those Darnall. All he was great. Undocking DOT COM dodge. Orig- you're knowledgeable. Husband of Sissy SPACEX. He's the one that got hers corners daughters cousin. Yes so consensus on that right. Alabama Audrey Thumbs Denise Nickerson actress. Yes Willie Violet from Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory. She's one that turned into the blueberry. Yes the Chew Gum Jour. Desert baby hair comes love right to lead on. What's happening to your face. Let me finish faces turning five. You're turning pilot pilot about. I told you I haven't got it quite right and you can say that again. Look to my kid always goes wrong when we come to the dessert. Always Yeah Jerry's right. One hit wonder everybody knows her nickerson. Oh easy violet beauregard okay. How about Dick Richards? Hyping Drummer for Bill Haley and his comets Bill Haley. Gto So it's gotTa be bill. Hey how about Russell? Smith American singer Songwriter for the amazing rhythm aces never heard of them So that's a no right now. This one I count but I don't know that I'll get much support from the room. If Luis Perez Garcia was here he would back me up on this Lyn Cornell sweetpea whitaker. Yeah definitely four-time champions. Yeah he was a big big name in boxing. Before Floyd Money Mayweather there was Pernille sweetpea. Whitaker and those who studied both will tell you. Whitaker was the better fighter and arguably the greatest lightweight ever the crazy thing is hues like Mickey Mantle figure in boxing. The sense that is great as he was he had. He treated himself better. Had he t on himself he would have been even greater and even so one of the ten best pound for pound fighters of all time. How `Bout David Harrison American actor? He was voyage to the bottom of the sea. Fly and live and let die anybody familiar with David. Edison's L. Time to Jetson Addison. Yes all right. Tommy looked familiar but his face. Recognition will not get him unfortunately how about Art Neville Singer Songwriter Keyboardist? He was in the meters. And obviously the Neville Brothers Air Energy T.F. Oh so just a year ago. He is the spirit. He's the Tito of the novel. Yeah Aaron kind of took the thing because I would vote. Yes but okay being outmoded. Okay but they keep probably falls in line somewhere after the birth mark so I think what's Rutger Hauer? Oh yes actor bladerunner. Nighthawks definitely is. Yes indeed Russi Taylor. Oh Simpsons Voice Shoe Martin France she or she gordon. Southern pushing boy could be such a parole screams from me. I've never felt so alive. Eight Martin now Hancock tomorrow and I haven't even started about some tests. Life's too short for tests show many males for most of her life. There is a body of work there obviously but not really yes definitely voice of work. So is it enough. He's on the level of Mel Blanc. The for females and the animated voice over round does that mean. You're yes I'm spent. I know she probably won't pass the muster the rest so June Faure yes oh the voice of Rocky Squirrel and everything. You're saying that she's that level. Come to be the next. She's probably number two Jennifer as number one for sure. She did the voice of the jets baby on the Mary. Tyler Moore Show did Huey Dewey. Louie for dovetails. You know what I'm going to say. Yes I suggest that you're Gary I mean I'm going to be honest until you that probably the only female voices that I know the voice of Bart and Lisa so most of our characters were male characters system but I will say this based on what you said not not. Because Bob says that she's like the second greatest voice but the voices that you listed I would say yes just based on those too okay. I'M GONNA say Yes to because of the simpsons. Now this one I think will count. Nick Bona Connie famer any originals of felon. Hbo With Len Dawson. Yeah that's where I mainly angry nick. Bonnie Conte passed away at the age of seventy eight. And what he leaves behind is a legacy stretching far beyond that just of a football player considered too small to play professional football. He was selected to five. Afl All Star Games was named to the first team all AFL five times and was inducted into the Patriots Hall of fame. He was a great football player. He was on the undefeated. Miami Dolphins donate defense last one for July friends Broadway director and her so Jesse automatically knew him. Right away yeah. Are you familiar with how I know the name? Yeah. I'm more of a fence about whether I'm GONNA count or not. So you are still undecided. Gary Leah's resume again. I actually you have listed as Broadway director producer. But I don't know what he did. Wonderful Town Jonah. Game Damn Yankees. Forget family affair. Funny thing happened later. The Forum on the roof It's a bird it's a plane. It's Superman cabarets. Orca folley's yes. But that resumes. Yeah I've heard the name Kim. Okay so I'll go ahead and say yes to make it unanimous all right moving into August we have David. Caulk philanthropist. Or is it Koch Cop? I think it's been a pig. Koch brothers carry costs. Are you familiar with any of the Koch Brothers? I assumed so. He's a philanthropy. Those those guys basically run the world but sorry. You're yes if he is one of the Koch Brothers. Yeah I think so. It's you know the David Koch. You'd other cost brothers. So yeah you familiar with the cock brothers. Yes this US immediately on the fence when he read Libertarians. This is what I would say. Yes because this one I think is going to be unanimous Peter Fonda academia. Easy rider sleep. I all right so we'll see the bad's going with got a helmet. Fonda was best known for that cross country trip in nineteen sixty nine easy wider the iconic counterculture film. He Co starred in and earned an Oscar nomination for writing in gibbons musician for the kinks no became one of the Davies. Brothers all right. So that's a new for everybody. Now this one again another wrestling person. I know we always have a hard time. Voting Wrestlers Marlene Harley race. Oh yes S. Harley race for sure. One of the great bad yeah. He was big name back in the late seventies early eighties. So Bob. You're scare you're yes. Jesse. Yes all right and I will say. Ast you've heard your ric flair's talk about being cock of the walk. You've heard your Thunderbolt Patterson's you've heard him Only Anderson Flare Parades around saying that he is the ultimate man. Buddy this is symbolic of being everything that any human being ever wanted to be. That man is Harley. Race is his opponents. Were guilty of race baiting though. Oh come on. That's the giant. The missing link was a different guy. Yeah Oh yeah. This is a little on the back and he would grant you. Don't WanNa spit the Kabuki guy that ate the guy that ate the term Goes Jersey deal. I think this one will count. How about cliff branch? Yes raiders all famer right. No He's not. He's not one of the ones that is supposed to be in. That hasn't gotten in yet. What's the first thing that comes to your mind? This lift bridge speed. Speed speed total speed. Why does make it branches out? Cheer Fault it's your fault it's NFL films fault. Because you've shown those Lynn. Swann catch is from Super Bolton. How many Times Cook Branch? Though was more consistent player than Lynn Swann. And he was scarier player. I guarantee to deepen tobaks unless war. Jesse will you take the Pearson doesn't get in and cliff? Branch doesn't get in stance. I realized that there are fans in every city. That feel like there's someone they love that should be in the hall of fame it but I stand by. It seems a shame that the only person on the all decade team is the one omitted gap. That seems wrong especially when they opened up so many new slots specifically for this year the academy run himself by having that party feel giant. Watch documentaries on the table. So did we say yes to clip ranch. Yes yes right okay. This one just because of the circumstances of his death not necessarily that he was a contributor to society by any means. Jeffrey shine oh I mean he's turned into a mean at this point. Everybody knows the name knows who? He is the freshest name on the Clinton hot name around Valley probably the spirit of the sweat hogs but I will still let him signed Szanto. I did my homework mystic almost in that. Oj's kind of realm of you really want to vote for OJ. Here you know media. I think it's the name recognition he does have the nation. We do not miss the biggest news stories of the year man. That's yeah you gotTA count. We're just here all right so we will be grudgingly say yes obscene How about Cedric Benson former? Nfl player went to Ot ut hall of Famer pipe and over his wife is let me play for the bears. Play for the Bengals look more more known for his college career than anything right local ties pretty solid NFL career. If you went back and looked at it he was actually pretty good. He's one of those guys that doesn't get talked about now was was he more notable for his football career or for his post football career as a Butler for the governor later was executive producer for sports crickets. That's better than sprucing. The classic talk all right so we're going to see Benson right How about Jack Whitaker Sports Cancer? Cbs ABC NFL today host. He was like the Dick Sap of ABC or CBS. And he was so. You're yes Gary Yes Jessica. Right so yes. The all around would've wanted to be remembered as someone who tried to say things simply and without cliches a perfect description for a man whose heroes were the original pillars of news reporting with a deep sense of humanity and attention to detail. Jack Whitaker always separated his work from the rest quarterly. How about Larry Siegel writer? Mad Magazine. The Carol Burnett show was an emmy winner. Are you familiar with Jonathan Livingston? Well Hello Larry. Well Jonathan Livingston or GTO for me based on what you said. It sounds like he contributed. I do not know this Jason Sigler. Gts Yes yes definitely with eight passes for Number One. -SEGO so I'm guessing that's another right unless there's a bunch of NBA family. He he had they would have a flock of seagulls when he has his family reunion. That's the should be the banner. Yeah Genius this one. Mainly Warner Torius than actually contribute to society. Gary Ray Bowles the I ninety five serial killer you familiar with Gary Ray. Bowles another one of those serial killers with rain with raise the minimum. Are we going to say no to Mr Bowles Todd Bowles? Gt Afo? And I mean he's a Gary so he's pretty spirit to begin with so ops firing. Just kidding all right how about neo Nazis videos not being how Neil Castle musician for Ryan Adams and the cardinals blackfoot Chris Robinson Brotherhood. Are you familiar meal castle known? It's Bryan Adams. Brands does what ten? How would you like to how about JESSE COMBS AMERICAN RACER A television host? He was on mythbusters. Overhaul and extreme four by four Jesse. He was there anybody else familiar with it. Sounds like he was a reality. Tv never heard of okay. So we'll say no. How about this one? I think only Bob will give any support to if any at all Lilac Cockerel San Antonio go she was spared seventy five to eighty one narrows. Gpf Oh okay. Yeah everybody else being the Anti Action. Everybody's yeah you're right though Scenarios are GTS when it comes to old mears San Antonio maybe the Castro brothers Let's see Jim Level American homicide. Detective police escort for Lee Harvey Oswald. When he was shot that he was the astronaut. That got played my Tom Hanks in. Do you have a different name or same local also? He's the guy that is next to Lee Harvey when Hitler. He's the the heads of the only only reason we're going down as part of the Lee Harvey Oswald Photo. Okay so you would say would be with you. But I'm all right so we'll say knowing him last one for August Gordon re sack television writer for Pinky and the Brain. The maniac biotic six. He was an emmy winner. Pretty solid line of work. They're hiring peaking in the brain runs pretty solid. That is an enemy was big back in the day. Visit enough to get him yes. I didn't recognize the name but based on body of work on me and say this Gary are waffling a little bit. But I'll I'll say yes or no. Do you know what I'm going to say yes to my number. I don't want to give you too many points all right. So that's it for August. Let's move into September. We have a one name songwriter. Busbee is anybody familiar with busby be USB pitch at third. I had nothing to say. This must be a millennial thing. Pucci was here. He Apolo- give busby. He's here he's just asleep. No interest in joining us. So we'll say no to Mr Busby. How about Robert Hunter? Grateful dead former a ticket night hosts not not big Dick Hunter. We'll do actually on the Mir work. This show tonight will be a real short show. We've got well anybody familiar with all the grateful dead song so some of the big big big deal catcher. I'm big you get them all. No I'm I'm so gary you're yes Jesse Lance I'll go yes. People that is pretty spare but peer pressure. Yeah Ninety two calls ferry. Okay all right. This one I think is the first ballot. How about the Great Rick Okay? Hasten Oh yes ours. One of the biggest desperately of the year yes. That's a first down right but DR GONNA drive. Kerr's tie now. His bandmate was the inventor of the jokes jokes series. Yes you love the afterlife baby. This is just what I needed like the afterlife. It's just what I needed. We had a whole bunch of those for this because because of another big name in music that also spawned some of this joke series when he passed. How about the Great Eddie Money? Save more during the same time Pretty tough double shot of music death but both of them make it but he's a yes right Eddie. Money was greatness water. How about Chris? Duncan Major League? Baseball player was a broadcaster cameras. Ucf Oh yeah. When Tim dies then we definitely will say yeah major morning but this one. I think will count. How about the Great Valerie Harper Rhoda? Yes maybe the highest praise for Valerie Harper skill on screen is that for many of her fans. She wasn't Valerie at all. She was road providing so many moving lessons in her last chapter to go along with all those last she'd given us in the years before everybody's consensus on on Roda Roda. What was that show where she was? Michael boots mom the whole night. Hogan family the lowest money they rather than. Here's always okay. So this one is probably more of a local mom and the circumstances around her death. Were Very Tragic Kylie Ray Harris own one like a point nine seven or whatever. I think that's no not a tree. Purse personnel seek. You know wow I'm also gonNA vote no out some of the new and it's not just because of the way she went out because we voted Epstein An. Yeah but nobody's ever afford local stuff from him. She wasn't so big national name. Okay then I will not argue on that one So this is another Lee. Harvey Oswald Related Won. The the only reason we're doing this Robert in McClellan was the surgeon that operated on both John F. Kennedy and Lee Harvey Oswald. I mean if he succeeded maybe we'd count them but he wasn't he doesn't pretty crappy ereck. Some people might question. Maybe he did succeed. Well that's a good point except for the JFK. But for the Lee Harvey War. I mean pending on who was the one that order to read being president when he LBJ. Where's he from pay? How many will this failed surgeon? Make the list now. No okay so we're going to say no for Mr McClellan. I think this one will count. How about T. Boone? Pickens yes businessman. And philanthropist t boone. Pickens has died at ninety one of natural causes. The Holden Ville Oklahoma native built. A career has a legendary energy executive philanthropist and Longtime Oklahoma State University supporter pickens authored. The first billion is the hardest gave away over one billion dollars personally and through his T. Boone pickens foundation pickens gave more than five hundred million dollars to his ALMA MATER. Oklahoma state including one hundred. Sixty five million to renovate boone pickens stadium but he got in a fight with George over the devil in the well for argument over fracking. But he's definitely a first ballot wasted tons of money on spare Oklahoma State Football This one may count. How about Cookie Roberts American journalists? Abc News Yeah Cokie. She was a big name. Yeah she was alone and broadcaster. Okay we will say yes. How about and this one's a little niche sid. Haig actor was in all of the Rob Zombie movies. Yeah rejects he was in Jason of Star Command. Thx Eleven thirty eight being the clown and all of the Rob Zombie movies. I would say yes bob. You're yes Jesse. I'll let you you know. I don't watch horror films. All right so we will say yes so now. He's less human than Newman. Serious talk to us about Aaron Eisenberg American actors reasons facebook just the reason I put him on this this is he was an accurate star. Trek Deep Space Nine pandering to Jessie. Are you familiar with Mr Eisenberg? He played Nog son of the perennial nice guy but now all right. So we'll say no to Mr Eisenberg. How about another local tie? Andre Emmett Basketball Player at Texas Tech Memphis Grizzlies. It's way remember the much more than they did. He all anybody. I recognize the name. But he's pretty spare out. Sorry daintily not get your. Y'All see where the Southwest Conference Co Champions. Not Once not three times not four times not five times but twice as many as one in late. Get your guns up. All right so Linda Porter American actress. She was in superstore dude. Where's My car and for Bob Twin Peaks? She's extremely spare out. I'm looking at pictures I do recognize. But yes that's generic old lady. Okay so we'll say no and last one for September Rob Garrison Actor. Okay this area. This is very neat. But he was in the karate kid and he is the one that says get him a boy. I think he was also an Iron Eagle. He was a prom night. Also in Cobra yes. So is that enough in Cobra Kai. They made him be himself does he was dying in real life and so they made in play his own character. Dying his own body bag in the show late So we'll be enough for yes. I'M GONNA say yes. I wasn't going to but that joke series. Yes I'll just down. I mean if you if you have an impact culture contains a quote from you not just a movie that you write your quote that I'd say. Dvd Mitch's quote so. Yeah all right so we will say yes moving into October. I think this will count. How about Robert Forster yes? I plan on twin. Twin peaks was really good at breaking bad yet here. Yeah he was an old community was ran the vacuums. Yes that's right yeah. And he's the one that Karen Sisco. Tv show. He writes her Somalia dummy questioning. Did he actually dire? Did he call in for a day? And I'm sorry but you never know how sorry but I am here now and I have cash so please please you only for that first pick. Yes Oh wait what this is. Previously old going forward were we to would require an additional one twenty five. He's out in Mexico somewhere actor. He's not in New Mexico if he's if he called for a vacuum he's in Vermont. No He's in Oakland Omaha the cinnabon gene. Okay so one that got mentioned earlier. Just Jesse. Now's the time that though. Your Confetti in the air rip Taylor him loss. I lost to rips in the same way. You have to rips. So let's count both of them so yes to rip Taylor Right. Yeah absolutely Taylor was famous for dousing his audience with buckets of Confetti. He was frequently a guest on Hollywood squares. And the Gong. Show Taylor was also on the big screen and performed on Broadway. He died in Beverly Hills. His cause of death has not been reported about dying Carroll actress. Yes first female black lead on network. Tv. She had a show. As Julian's I remember watching very very attractive lady and she was married to. She thinks it was it. Was it the guy that was Jennifer Jason? Lee's Dad was it or was so we're going to say yes to dying Carol out about Bill Bidwell Football Arizona cardinals owner but he counts the Gary. You agree with that name recognition. Now this one. I kind of put on here because of one of the bands that she was in. Kim shadwick singer songwriter musician. She was in the muffs. The Pandora's and the pixies but I would count her because I'm wanting to rocked up and I definitely say you know key is you're familiar with the the MUFF divers all right so gary. Are you familiar with the shattuck's were actually in Jesse? I do not know what I will. I'll I'll see majority so we'll say yes. How about Ginger Baker Hall yet? Green Love Jab acres are good. Is that gives Dan. The three to Nathan are really slurping. It up this morning. Rj An may tell you a nipping at eight more than Philip. I did not know the name until a few years ago. After Russa Fire Mad Dog Lopez. He had an audition drummers and he said no ginger makers wines hates Ginger Baker. He's drummer and he thinks he's terrible. Drums and so is so. Sam told me the story about Ginger Baker being extravagant thing. So if you are a type of drummer right whether it's good or bad. I think that you made an impression in buffalo was in the first to quote unquote rock super groups. Both the cold cream and blind faith considered super group. So yeah I definitely so we will say yes ginger. Baker's as he personally is what drums are. All Pass is mad. I think he's got a fairly consistent unto himself. They probably make common save. You Punch me on the nose. I ain't GonNa sue YOU BACK SO PADDOCK DROUGHT. Channels like a great virtual. So Madman supportive nature to world's greatest moment. How about Larry Sundstrom Larry? Well how American basis for Leonard Skinner and thirty eight special which are basically the same band. No bands that never heard of him. And there's about ten guys combined from those bands that would go in before he would so out. So you're no gear. You said you ask for me. I'm GonNa all my leader Gary and saying yes you know what you've convinced me etc is a fifty schouten so we're going to say yes to. Hello Larry. How about bill macy American actor Maude? The producers was in the jerk. Was He the guy that was shooting the cans? Hey Hey I can. So one of my favorite roles that bill may see did is definitely my favorite year. Yeah with great Hero till he played one of the producers and Joe Longo. Yeah yeah there. Sid Caesar type role and Bill. Macy place producer needs these knocked out. Any here's the applause in politics is sleepy. Grey character actor on thought Jerko. He's he's older guy with the glasses. That have the army grab optic. He's convinced the glasses for him grasses but looks good to me to hurry up sun-times. Wasting John. Don't forget to check those cars. Then these classes son. Yes Sir I damn the okay so we will say yes. How about Willie Brown Hall of fame? Football Player broncos open ray yes most iconic interception in super bowl his the always see him running down. Feel emotion has done little Greg. Lookout Brown Really SUPER BOWL CUTS. I could the writer. Ho Squad is going over there. They have a long time. That's definitely yes right yes And last one for the Great John Witherspoon actor Friday House party the Boondocks and the Great Hollywood shuffle where he was selling Hoe CAKES BECAUSE E to right. I got a new body. Winky DINKY HOLE CAKE. Okay holes got to eat too right right right right. I hate to lose your big bank. I'm GonNa Talk to the man winky. Dinky great great actor. Yeah absolutely all right. So moving into November we have Rudy Bosch American Navy Seal Reality Show. Contestants was in survivor Bermeo and survivor all stars so reality. Tv person are you familiar. I mean that's way back when I used to watch survivor. I remember I know who he is but I wouldn't count. Yeah this one. I would really need Louise Peres. Garcia's help here back me up Walter. Marcado Horner Rican astrologer and member of the psychic friends network. Walter Mocatta was the guy that had makeup on. He was doing those so he was reading was the Mexican. Miss Cleo yes Louis Perez Garcia is not here to back me up on this one say no to Moco Warez Ryan Tarantino American actress the Marvelous Mazel City by your girls great director. He's this Mazel. He's he's got a pretty decent role in marble as you said that yes. I first thing I said. Did you say that all right? So you're yes Bob Gary. Are you familiar with Mr Recognized? The picture of him yes. I have not lost marvelous missing nasal but I know it's absolutely amazing. So so you're GonNa you know his role in that. He was the guy that owned the club. Like the character for tertiary. 'cause I know that the reason why everybody loves that is not deplorable right right. I mean I'm not a hard. Yes but for me. I mean okay. It's being not so I'll say yeah he owed. Fm About Robert Freeman photographer. He did the album covers for the Beatles else. Rubber sole with the Beatles Cheese Joe These last spot within seen tomatoes and free shipping and. I don't think he did the one where they're walking across. Robert Freeman familiar with. I have seen the cover of those things. I'm not familiar with this person as anybody else familiar. I haven't even heard the Beatles for sale L. That's pretty big suggest a you're on the fence but I think with my no vote. Can we'll have to shoot him down. Okay that's fine How about and this is more just notorious because this was nine bust Charles Rogers. Nfl player Detroit lions but he's just mainly known for being giant for to hide yes. I don't know if you knew that. The album help the Beatles or spelling out. Help H. E. L. P. Yeah come like. Ymca guess he posed them to do that to make that. I knew off the top of my head when you said that stuff was the rubber sole and this one with all bases all yeah weird so easy no and I guess I guess for Charles Rogers. Yeah I've got. That would be a no for sure you guys I mean. It's a very recognizable college football player. He didn't make any impact in the NFL. Yeah Okay how about breadth? Toksvig Fred Cox. Nfl Player for the Vikings. But the reason he is on this list he is the CO inventor of the nurse football. That's an end big legacy. Yeah I wonder if they made a NERF casket water drops so everybody's an NFL. And okay. Then I will say as well. How does Lubin American rock basis for clear? Light the doors and billy squire. Doug Lubin better than Bobby. Blue Bland back. Is anybody familiar with this? I'm familiar with is worth. Apparently but not him. Okay so we will say how about Michael J Pollard. Yes an actor. Oscar winner for Bonnie Him in the fourth round. You would ask you Tony Pollard. You would be recognized the picture if you saw him also scrooge he was in house thousand corpses with Sid Haig. He's like a really short guy. Plays winner Michael J Pollard. Michael J. Today's game. He always says that. Just as you are familiar yesterday. His face I absolutely is and So we're all as Mr Mick Zip links on Savoy. Tv heroes very normal size nose with a tiny little head. So we'll say Mr Pollard. Absolute last one for November Irving Burji American Hall of Fame Songwriter. His big claim he saying they later covered pretty quickly. He did the Banana Song. So is that enough to get Mr Burki. No no song would be in. But I don't know now the person that's saying it would be in right donkeys. Yes okay so we'll say no faster burge's that last month of the year starting off with Jerry Herman Tony Award winning composer with Mr Paging Mr Herman and in the afterlife aging Mr Herman Mr Herman you have a telephone call at the Front Desk. Wrote not so we can say no one wrote for. Hello Dolly BONLIEU CASE OF FOLLY WANNA Tony. Work five times but now I'm far Tony's but FM. Yeah all right. Receive a lifetime award here. It got his record. The people that covering new ones Google all right how about Emanuel UNGARO fashion designer. Anybody familiar with on line. So that's a no right. This one will count Albert the Great Danny Aiello. Yes right thing. A former weather law sessional money. I mean I'm just holding it by combining except better than banks always get knocked off no awful Tony and besides with a bank. There's always tons of forms to be filled in all that shit. Tony nothing to read the right. It's all in his head. Gary you would be shocked to know that when we did the Gary Oldman how many nobody had seen the professional except me really in that group which has so many ways movies. Why was yes? Absolute best the Natalie. Portman one yes. This is where I should be your things because Bob doesn't yet he had killer. I think this will count how. `Bout Carol spiny. That's that's definitely interesting. Spiny Caroll Spinney from the day sesame street launched in nineteen sixty nine. He was there voicing operating but Oscar the grouch and be one and only big bird and this morning the world is mourning the death of the puppeteer who brought out the kid in all of us. Now this one I think Jay is probably one out. Be Great juice world. Rapper knows just in Monterey or that was broken up about that but now with the well he'll sit there. Probably not in our demographic five seventy anyway so okay so we say noted juice world how he's buried in juice walks jamie story about him but he did. How about Rene Arbitrage Tony's Yes Benson Bents Star Trek Deep Space? Nine really did. The Voice of the crab bloomer made shifts was so how liposomes snooker under their heads and as he's been a lot of these face nine. Yeah great great actor. That's where you can see rene showing pick orbin. Junius he was. The study was kind of a stuck up stuffy. I will say yesterday. I think this one will also count. Don Imus Radio Personnel. Yeah not the Greatest Guy. Not a crucial moment. Do you think a lot of people are going to say I miss. I'm us. He's not in all just words. Okay Jack Sheldon Trumpet. Tear the MERV GRIFFIN. Show and he was a singer he saying. I'm just a bill for school truck. I like I'm just real but no single now I would say yes yes because of. That's an iconic. Kite Conic Song Bob through I would say yes. I mean that. That's probably the biggest of the School House Rock's conjunction junctions biggest bigger than I'm just a bill is highly question that near the case. It's very looks full completion. Paul how about Allee Willis Hall of Fame Songwriter wrote? I'll be there for you. The friends theme as well as September could sell the hall of Fame Song Writer for the friends theme. Make it in. I don't know okay. So that's no another bigger song. Then who was that? Thirdly sometimes I think I'm Ryan how seems like we use an awful lot. You have the rock version of all of those songs. Yes I have a CD that has been dad's that's what he was actually being artesia if God the charges on Ex Up. We have re talking. Searing our bond girls how many Claudine Auger French actress? She was in thunderball. She was domino. Domino has phone. Count Her on the. You know what I don't think we did the bond career as a human being. Okay I think this one will count Hayden Fry. Yes Fame College football coach Baylor coach at Iowa. The big ten has lost a legend. Aiden Frye who took over it down and out Iowa football program in the late seventies and turned it into a big ten. Powerhouse passed away Tuesday at the age of ninety. The College Football Hall of Famer had been battling cancer. I would have been to two bowl games ever before. Fry showed up in Iowa City. When he retired twenty seasons later they had been to fourteen more including three trips to Pasadena. Took the State Consensus Right Gary? You're you're the fence now. There's a Sitcom Funny Joke House thinking. Okay we also talked about this person when we did our football movies. How many which is still in production. Games Radio Kennedy subject of the Movie Radio Cuba. Getting junior up is that enough air is does he fall into the PD he added. Yeah okay so we're going to say no how. `Bout again I need. Lewis says Garcia's help for this one chewy Bravo American mexican-born American television personality on Chelsea lately. And after all the little midget Garnell midget is that enough or does. Only the Jimmy. Kimmel will say it's not up to the level of Jimmy Kimmel sidekick everybody's know now and okay. I'm sorry Louise Presidency all right so von Johnson. Nfl LINEBACKER NEW ORLEANS. Saints part of that vaunted four linebackers in New Orleans with with channels and cheerful Jefferson. Nas Not big enough tonight this list. Okay he was. The ring moved for some. How about Gershon Kingsley? German American composer reason. He's on this list. He created the popcorn song. Not The point. Thank you took that yesterday on my but no. I don't think now better. Now he was the inventor of the popcorn trick then. Yeah Mickey Rourke who the inventor of the popcorn trick but unfortunately the popcorn song probably will not get it. Thank you spray hot though right yes? So we'll say no. How about bill not including you know a noodles was a yes the daily news that may be part of the. Karaoke set news. People do genius. How about Philip? Mckeon Tallus Tommy. Yes yes so. Yes yes yes. All Gary's no probably the celebrity. I most resembled at any time in my life when that was on the year. There's no I liked cut will kind of like Tommy when I was that age. Yeah but he was sister was in fact. Joel cable when she saw we'll talk about it he's convinced me. No that was huge. Show show you a big character? No one should. We have not had we have not had one exemption do you want owns them using exemption on his sister. Gto So we'll say no. How ABOUT PETE? Freight's baseball player Boston College. And the only reason he is on this list he was the original inspiration for the ice bucket. Challenge though is that enough and now he's on ice money raised. Yeah exactly honestly most but that is that is. That is the most callous response I spoke. Challenge was a huge phenomenon but I had no idea you were such odd. Yeah Yeah so what we're discussing. I mean Lou. Gehrig counts because he invented a illness off all right so poor rates does not make the list taught how about Mary. Frederickson brought set lead singer. That's all she she did die. And I didn't know Rox four five I mean it must have been hit is over now okay. It must've been big man right. That was a big. But they're not as a base so but she still count scary. I mean is she technical rock set she is. She is the lead singer. She's very tentative. Yes yeah I'll say yes. Just based on the fact that Roxetta has and they have they have guitars joyride skid marks. So we're we'll see yes last one on the list. Ron Liebman yes yes. In America Dole Marais married to who the actress who played Alice? Who was the mom on the show? Tommy that we didn't count on Cadillac cavs Academy. That's what I thought you will virk. Yes rate character. I say don't tell me you just a little children here. Son Yes sir. We'll say it's just a little chilly. Air Surf and just a little junior surf is just a little chilly here. Sir Acid. I thought you meant that concludes my list. Is there any? I M missing that. I did not get to can't think of any so. Let me tally. Up The numbers while I do that up the list that we went through. Which one do you think was the most significant death of our back list but Lots of big ones? Ross Perot Lee IACOCCA power. I'm looking Epstein. Maybe the Car Sky Really Sick Eddie. Money I mean that doesn't like maybe Robert Forester Guest Senio you John. Much giant one day. You're stays Hebrew in picking the here. Lots of big names. But yeah if it was me. Ross Perot. Maybe it's a big name died earlier. Yeah nine for me. It's I would agree with that all right. So the numbers have been tallied drum. Roll Six yeses rob between me and junior. I went over so geared towards wins the showcase showdown with rage out to everybody for helping. Yeah Scott. What did you think of? The list got will double check our work when he looked checks and we will be back Probably in July to talk about the first half of the twenty twenty and obviously the biggest name in the clubhouse right now the great Kobe Bryant. Oh yeah that's going to be up to be. That's going to be a hard one to beat. Yes although Kirk Douglas. That's that's a very strong. It's a generational thing people up to a certain age. You're going to say Kobe people beyond a certain agency Kirk Douglas. You have a wider swath with Kobe. Yeah earlier because when you think about what he's done is just bitterness play. I'M GONNA say without even seen any other names Kobe's number one simply because I know snoop dogg would come after me if I did. So they'll make us look for. You can find me on twitter. I am Jesse Jackson. Dfw Gary Preval Underscore Cowboy Bob Tallorder pair and junior admits Junior don't forget it you can send us an email. How many podcasts? At GMAIL DOT COM. 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