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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 1) How bad did Jerry Krause want to dismantle the dominant Bulls?

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

40:04 min | 1 year ago

Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 1) How bad did Jerry Krause want to dismantle the dominant Bulls?

"Good morning everybody. Hope you're off to hand. Start on your Tuesday. How you guys doing out there. I ban tastic. That's a good answer keys. And he's singing right out of the Chute. That's good news key. It is music looked calm is like the mid eighties and I'm flying in my convertible down. Pch Drugs front-seat night. Even the back in the front seat you couldn't put those in the trunk or something knows to drugs in the front seat down. Pch convertible car mad at the world but excited at the same time. What are you mad about everything that was going on in Santa Monica before I hit back? Drivers think he's mad because he's in a convertible and it's drugs but the play out the car flying so fast that you think it's only one person in the car but it's really too and then the cops pulled me over and they find out his second person key. I think you've got to forget this whole sports broadcasting. Then you gotta go to work like right movies or something because you have very acute imagination about this scenario with the music and the cars and the setup the fact that you have a a A conflict in Santa Monica. That's leading you drive past. You basically wrote the movie in your head. You just gotTa put a piece of paper. Maybe you've seen those movies with a guy is in the car convertible and he's a party boy. He's got some girl in a car but you can't see her and she they're flying. They're doing all sorts of illegal activity gets pulled over right on ridged cop pulls up. He looks up. He's like Oh okay. Loans are Molly Ringwald and one of those John Hughes movies. Listen little this little P. and G. I. Feeling keys movie would be at least. Pg Thirteen maybe are. I don't think he's going to John Hughes route thirteen twenty yesterday like in Fourth Twenty. I feel so good. You Celebrated Law Day of the listen. I wrote a stop celebrating Holidays Easter. Like he wasn't nothing and idea for twenty like he was something you know much about four twenty yesterday's the first time I heard it and that's because I'm in house in I'm not watching the depressing news so I'm not really you know I'm not in a car. I'm not hearing the radio usually just watching television. This is the first time that I if four twenty this is the first time I heard about it. Well I have a four alarm set on my calendar. Starts Regan starts ringing on the seventeenth to make. Sure your supplies so you don't get too low. I just think it's funny. You say that about the four twenty part but he didn't have the news on anybody out. There is just looking to take a break for a day. That is a really good place to start is. Don't look at the news APP on your phone. Don't turn on the TV just the day. We all need to be informed and whatnot but taking the day off from that is not a bad idea man. I took a day off for sure. I walk the dogs and I was just thinking you know I was thinking to myself as walking the dog. I've been watching that. You know I just. I can't I couldn't do. I couldn't do. It's good advice. Good advice the last dance was as popular as we thought it would be Part one drew over six million six point. Three million people are to just under six million people. Five point eight million people so it was some of the biggest sports documentaries we've ever seen. It beat the Bo Jackson. One pretty comfortably beat up OJ. America part one Nearly doubled the audience of OJ and not a huge surprise. We were all looking forward to it. But it's funny that even a couple of days after it debuts. We're still getting more and more information. Now we find out Tim. Floyd was talking that we knew the template came in to replace still Jackson and ultimately we knew that Jerry Krause wanted to blow them up but what we didn't know is that he wanted to blow them up a year earlier. Here's Tim Floyd on the radio talking. About how after the seventy two WIN SEASON JERRY? Krause wanted to hit the button. That'll Jerry REINSDORF and I walked around downtown Seattle and they ended up the Bulls ended up winning that series. That was the first year Michael came back or walking around down down and he basically said look Krause wants Phil gone this year. He thinks that Pippen's breaking down his his back. He thinks that this this team is run. Its course He doesn't WanNA overpay these players. They're coming up on their contract years. He wants to move before before their contracts are up ninety seven ninety eight where we can still get value for him and he can start to rebuild and In Jerry Reinsdorf you know it was torn. Because they're winning but Jerry Krause wanted a over and done with so that he could go back and basically take all the credit for the next rebuil- May to hear from the guy that was about to get that. That is stunning stomach. You've been in a similar situation championship team and they start to break it apart. Piece like piece by piece as a member of that team will just going through your head. Well you start off by you know the year that originally hired him you always gotta go two years a year before that to know that the flirting has already started just because he's now the head coach all of a sudden. No He's been talking to this guy behind closed doors for years so Just undercover you. You start to you. Start to look at and say just like he said about Jerry Krause. He wanted all the credit. I remember. We won the super bowl in Tampa Bay and all of a sudden these we started to. You know we wanted to make a second run back at it the next year and we could have but eagles got in a way. It much like Mike Wilbon. Who's on our show yesterday said As I was saying to you guys prior to that eagles getting away a lot of things start to dismantle two championships in in for us when we won the Super Bowl John. Gruden's Eagle got an away. The next year and things started to fall apart. I left team rich. Mckay in the middle of the year or general manager elected to step down as a Tampa Bay buccaneers general manager in left teams to become the Atlanta Falcons general manager and middle of the season. Keenum cartel leaves the team. Warren SAPP leaves the team. John Lynch leaves the team a couple of other guys. They leave the team Because of different contracts or or didn't WanNa play for the coach anymore just became one of those deals. Where you sitting there you go man. We could rent you know we could have won three of these things down in. Enjoy the ride instead of coming in here in worrying about who gets the credit. He was so worried about everybody. Giving Tony Dungy to credit. Because it was his team and everybody giving rich McKay to credit because he built the team that he did anything he could to for the demise of breaking up the program. Small men do small things. Does John Small. It doesn't matter how you define the salt a small but small man do small things. You could be the richest person on Earth. But if you're a big man you're GonNa do small things and I think that's what you're talking about. You're talking about someone. Perhaps in Jon Gruden who even though he's big in the NFL. Just want to super bowl. He's on top of the world. He's all over television. He still was small on the inside. And that prompted him to do small things because he didn't feel the bigness that everyone else was him for. He was just seeing the small guy. Steele and Jerry. Reinsdorf obviously Jerry Krause so that his small band in Tallahassee to saint team so his franchise. It's sad but it's not a story that's unfamiliar to US was look at look at Dallas. I mean Dallas had Roland. They want to super bowls with Jimmy Johnson and then they made a change there because Jerry Jones felt that he was not getting the credit that he wanted to bring it here. So that you know Jerry Yang tomorrow. I'm not talking about physically small if Eko prompting him to do that because I was thinking more size not not physical smallness the smallest of. I'm not getting the piece of credit that I want to see that every day we see that everyday life what the statue of the body is the mind of being small instead of big pitcher to part of this to that just keeps coming back abuse. Cook this first of all to have a dynasty like we saw the warriors very recently where they went three and five years. But we hadn't seen three in a row couple years off and now you're going for three in a row again but in the midst of it not as it's starting to break apart not as guys are getting hurt and getting older but in the middle of a championship run. They're actively trying to blow it up and go back to the warriors would if they'd said Steve Kerr you're not coming back Kevin Durant. We're GONNA move you want. And they all wanted to stay together. Imagine a reaction to that. It would be the same reaction we get. Now when we look at the Jordan would have the same reaction we got when shack lift in the Kobe. Bryant Saga the same reaction. I mean what are you doing and we do. The problem was think about all the bands. I've broken up really really good historic band. They're broken up because somebody wanted for credit or somebody's Eagle got too big and end up destroying the whole eight television shows. You guys know one of my all time. Favorite shows Golden. Girls talk about all the time. I was shocked with each other warning. Show show a pretty good job of concealing it right. Were until now. We'll see we'll see who. Who's the Jerry Krause in this? We need to identify? There was a way to keep it going. Even without the way that they had it set up the Bulls did have a plan in place that might have actually worked at Take place we'll get into what that was in. Who killed that one? That's going next on the morning show on seven ten. Espn can I tell you something? No I was a little worried about you last night. I was a little worried that I did not see the whole movies of you making dinner. That's Kinda come part of my normal routine when I did not get a a series of videos of you put together at dinner. I started to think all right. Well you know what the problem is is a has a little have a little injury going on in my hand and it's not from videos typing or anything like that. It's got to be an old injury from football and I had to have slept on it wrong on my hand in a has some sort of hairline fracture in the middle of my in in just never heal properly or something and I slept on wrong in our woke up and it was you know it was hurting and it was stiffening swollen and I just kind of it's been bothering me for the last couple of days but I'M GONNA go in Coma Dr Day when I get off the air and see if he's available to check an x ray and check it out to see in fact if it is something like that or did I just really really badly lean on it to the point where it's just you know no return. I mean it really hurts like aol where your mask when you go into the doctor. My mass when I go outside gas station mass grocery stores mask anywhere. I don't mess around L. C. R. U. Mass Guy Everywhere. You go are you masked up first of all? I'm not going anywhere. Let US I. I don't I we go once a week. We go to the grocery store. Yes I al Mal basket. I actually just ordered a couple of fancy looking masks. 'cause I gotta make things work for guys. I can't be out there in East St L. Conway so I order. A COUPLE OF MASS. Little Fails E. Yoda managed care by what you look like a staying healthy which one the reason why. I'm getting the math there. He makes either or it is not an either. Or but if you worried about wichita mass look like oppose it. You stand healthy because you can get an Anais mass. That doesn't work to look. Good is not going to work because you always got something travis. I'M A Walk Sutiyoso Travers. One day in my math is going to be fly and he asked me where I got my global dark mask from it. I'm GonNa tell him you said you WanNa go to dark mask I got a whole I gotta ask you. As long as we're back in the studio is long as we're back in the studio whether it's masked unmastered where between on there for that I'll wear glow in the dark. I don't care what it is. I gotta I gotTa mask right here. A basket full of them. That's all designer to that. Was You know delivered to us some time ago? They got all the COCO. Chanel Gucci's this. I'm like man just because it's material don't mean is working it's a Gucci and nineteen. Ask just you know designer. Young lady put them together. You know which is which is great. I love the idea but I'm like Yeah just a lot of holes in that mass. Chinese has been doing it for years. Though I showed you travis. They actually have designer masking runway. Now so it's like painfully. We're behind the net trend because we have needed a mask. But now that Kinda here. But I'll bet you got done soon a bit. You got the right protective stuff too though. It ain't just cloth it's not just designer right all right. So we know that the Bulls Dynasty got blown up. Because they didn't want Jackson back. Michael Jordan said he wasn't gonNA play anybody play for anybody other than Phil Jackson We got mentioned very briefly passing in the dock. The of the night vict- the Bulls tried to make a deal for Tracy McGrady that they wanted to trade Scottie. Pippen for Tracy. Mcgrady mcgready was talking about it and he went. What he said was a lot of people. Don't know that nine is the jury cross was actually trying to make a trade for me and Scottie and M J called in acts the whole deal. They brought me in for a secret meeting. Yes they did. Okay I love that. Michael was loyal to fill and Scotty like that. I think that that's fantastic. But the question is is. Should he have been a little less loyal and realized that look? This is the way that the goes you move out an older guy for a younger Guy Tracy McGrady and Michael Jordan. We know they got six together. What would that have looked like? They decided to go with Tracy. Mcgrady and I should say Michael Jordan decides it. He's okay playing with some different guys. I mean are they rip off another two three? God only knows but at that time Tracy. Mcgrady wasn't as good as he pimping come on now. I don't care not yet. No but but even even so that would have been setting up the franchise for the future. Not the immediate. Now Because Scotty. Pippin went on to play several more years at a pretty high level where Michael Jordan you know his was Kinda over and done with. At some point he would have passed the torch to maybe Tracy McGrady but winning the the now is would Jordan. I'm sure was looking at saying himself. Okay we're GONNA win right now and I don't WanNa win with no young dude. Will I gotTA train him get him to play and think like me are already got Scotty in the bag? Let's keep rolling like this man to be waited ships. No Really Tracy McGrady people forget how hold on hold on people forget how cold Tracy McGrady was and Toronto. I'm not talking about once again to remain. No and he was free. He was out cold coming out of high school in Toronto. His he played fantastic defense. He wasn't the shooter then. He became eventually but remember Scottie. Pippen was migrate shooter. Each ball handler. He was a willing passer and oh by the way he didn't have the EGO to demand to be the one he had the EGO to demand to be recognized. Which is all he needed. He would have been a satisfied to and I don't know if after ninety eight if they had if they had traced McGrady if that would have been over with Michael Jordan even with an ag Michael Jordan because by then we saw we're chasing grady. What's about to become what he eventually became. And that is one of the most lethal as offensive players in the last thirty years. But remember it wasn't it wasn't the wasn't ninety eight. They wanted to save one. It was earlier than that was Scottie. Pippen was tracy. Mcgrady League was ninety. Seven Ninety eight thousand. Yeah but that was the year that was the last year they won the championship. So why would you? Why would you take one of your key components? If I'm Michael Jordan why would I flip Scottie? Pippen that with one year pre prior to that would mean a championship run at the level that he played at. Why would I wanNA flip him after that championship to get Tracy Mcgrady? When I'm trying to three peat what would I do that? Because you figure you've gotten what you need at Scotty pippin that he's getting older but Andrea Perron Young Tracy McGrady who I can mold in the shape that I want and I don't have to pay him for awhile. No I'm not see Jerry Krause. I'm talking about Michael Jordan. He was a high school kid. He wasn't at the same level of Scottie. Pippen and ninety six ninety seven or eight or call. So why would I move him for him? I'm not GONNA do that if I'm Michael Jordan. Because the alternative is it comes to an end. The decision is do. I keep Scottie or do I take Tracy McGrady the decision is do. I take Tracy McGrady and keep this thing rolling. Rather I'd rather like Michael said I have. I rather defend my championship because I have the right to defend my championship. I earned that right. Sure you're not going to break it up as if we lost now if we lose in six okay but after five. I'm not going to break it up to try to get the six. If we lose his six you WANNA break it up less running back to see if we can get another three with Tracy McGrady but I'm not. I'm not willing to do it after five senior. He would've traded and his six and real talk. He might have ended up with three more right that though. I don't know in Hind in hindsight we know. That's what the likelihood but you're right. You're right key. Trade away a bonafide hall of Famer with five chips for a high school kid on Nelson was risky as hell risk. Especially when I got especially when this this this guy that is the hall of Famer has a foot injury. It's coming back. He's going to come back. We know he coming back. We know why he's mad. He's mad because they didn't pay him but he's coming back. We hold it together. T- gives back go on and win a championship. Why WOULD I? Why would I do that? When I know Scotty got at least five six more years left any why would I do? Well Scotty was gone after that season and Michael. Shut it down after I understand that but that put the year that they was trying to trade for Tracy was after the Fifth Championship. So if I'm Michael Jordan in feel Jackson I know why he's holding out. I knew I didn't have the surgery. He'll be fine in if they get smart and they make a decision at that point in time we go running back for seventh even though the today maybe maybe the owner decides to fire Jerry. Krause it says you know what man forget that we run into back. Maybe he vetoes the whole idea of blowing it up. Who knows but even if I don't go into it thinking that way if I'm Michael. I'm going to defending their championship. Because I have the right to with my cats that I want my fifth with and then I'll deal with the seven when the season is over with there is. There's another reason that he may not have wanted to do that as well. And I'll tell you what it is on the other side the morning show on seven ten. Espn your home is important. That's why gyco helps make it easy to save on Homeowner's insurance because home is more than just a place. Home is where he built a giant pillow fort in your living room and when people ask why you have a pillow. Fort Living Room. You say it's for your dog and when they ask what kind you say Chocolate lab and we've a web of lies that's almost as intricate as the crown molding in Fort Pillow. The GEICO Insurance Agency could help protect the pillow. Soft fortress you call home call Geico and see how easy it is to switch and save on Homeowner's insurance. You can pretty well little impromptu quiz that I gave you during the break key. You knew who is drafted number one the year before you in the after you. Of course you're taking number one ninety six. You were all over key. John Carter in ninety five. Why was that on the tip of your tongue because a fluid it was the year before? That was the year that I was going to come out in. I decided to stay in school. One extra. You know another set. Another season I just remember I remember the whole thing. I remember if I come out and be a top ten pick. I'll probably be the first to see off to board in front of Westbrook in front of Galloway You. Know Front. Jj stokes. But then I was like no. I'm going back to school the next year. I remember ninety eight ninety seven because there was conversation at the New York jets. We would take peyton manning if he decided if bill parcells decided to do it and promised him and he will take them number one then he would come out and obviously bill never do nothing like that in then in the following year was manning's year so I kinda. I didn't get the Tim Couch. You're right because it just you know like tim couch to couch was decent. Though man rolling bad teams. We go to bad teams and Butch Davis. It's just it's bad. Coaches bad teams will recognise career. Man unless you just well so coldblooded that you can. You can fight through all of the obstacles in the bad stuff until you get somebody good tim. Couch number one overall nine of the browns the next year. Guess who's picking I all over again. The browns they took Courtney Browne. Yeah they took Courtney Browne number one in two thousand and you just go through this you see the browns pop up over and over and over again with that first overall pick and sometimes you get a guy that can kind of gauge direction. Like you're saying if you've got a personality ability but if the organization sucks it's not a skeleton key to get out of a bad team you gotta get lucky to you. Got To have a special guy and a good coach. And you gotTa have you gotTa have top top people like when. I got drafted by the jets the year before they were two and fourteen and we wouldn't want fifteen. I wasn't happening. I wasn't I was. I was not going to sit around and be coach. For four years. By rich. Kotite wouldn't happen. It was just watched it happen. You know I don't care what reporters right what they would say. I didn't give them at the end to me. Somebody and get somebody who can coach me to win the championships. That's all I'm accustomed to doing it. I mean it's so many things out to snap in the place. Let's go back to Jordan for second we're talking about. The idea of the bowls wanted to make a deal for Scotty for Tracy McGrady and Michael Jordan said Hell No. We're not doing that. We're going to keep Scott. We're GonNa win another championship. I get it Scotty. Was Guy all the things that we talked about. You wonder too. How much of Jordan's legacy plays into this? The idea of look. I know I can win with him again. I've already won five with him. I'm going to win six with him and I don't want that and oh on the back end to have to go anywhere. I don't have to train up a young kid like Tracy McGrady to get on my level. That's GonNa take a season or two and I don't want to go through the process of my legacy big dragged back down because what Michael got to the top. He never came back down until he went to the wizards when he was around other than when he wants to play baseball for a couple years. They were right there in the championship level. They're winning championships. And you just wonder if he didn't WANNA have to start over to go all the way back down and take a a season or two or three to get back because he obviously still WanNa play basketball. I know is shut it down for three years. But he came back to play for the wizards. You wonder if just don't want to have to rebuild this with a kid. All over again played into his decision. Absolutely it into the decision and I don't blame him Jay at the end of the day. You don't give up a Scottie Pippen for Tracy McGrady. I mean it's not. They're coming off their fifth championship. You've got a chance to now. Go to six and you know you go into six you looking at it. You see what's out there in the landscape. Yeah Tracy McGrady. He's a good high school basketball player. All the sort of thing it's just like it's not as it's not the same as Vladi and Kobe. The Lakers were not coming off championship. Victory after victory after victory when Jerry West made the swap for vladi in Kobe. You could take a chance on that one but to give up a surefire Fire Hall of Famer. Who is Julia steal one of the top five players in the NBA for an unknown? That's not you don't do that. You just can't do it. There's no rhyme. There's as a player front office people can do we but as a player especially somebody like Michael Jordan. It's like a flint football and all of a sudden we got an aging Give me a good quarterback we gotTA. Ag Troy Aikman. Who is is not at the end but just came off winning. The Super Bowl missed the super bowl of next year. Then all of a sudden you WANNA draft another quarterback this young because you think Aikman and had one too many concussions. I'm not having that you're not gonNA be out. There was some dude. They can't hit the side of a bus yet. There's another go I don't know man I don't know I guess it all depends on how we here's the reason why you don't know. Elsie is because we like Tracy McGrady's gain in Hollywood evolved. They'll don't don't don't look at weird ended up at look at where it was at. At the time I get that but remember it was because of the exposure to Michael Scottie. Cain Scotty and I just wonder what Tracy McGrady would've turned into because Tracy McGrady is a hall of Famer and let's face it. He didn't really have a lot of great examples in terms of someone grooming him. He had a grooms himself but imagine. What would happen to that? Holidaying talent emerged in a Michael Jordan. World I always thought the same way about Andrew Wiggins Andrew Wiggins head a lot of potential and I just wonder what would have happened to his career had he stayed in Cleveland with Lebron been grown by Lebron as opposed to go to Minnesota and left his own devices and Tracy McGrady. Obviously it worked out okay with him. But I can't help but salivate thinking about Tracy McGrady being tutored by Michael Jordan. There's no question there's had they had they had. They moved on from Scotty and there was a hiatus period in a championship. Run Michael State around. There's no question that they probably could have won a couple of championships. But at that moment in time if I'm Michael Jordan I don't WanNa make that move for the simple fact that I know what that is a number thirty three when I got here in four years anyway. He's a proven commodity. He's a he's a he's a hall of Famer. We got but the one thing that we cannot criticize Jerry. Krause for that. He absolutely was brilliant. He identified talent right guys. He he knew which you gotta get rid of. He knew which got to go draft. He knew which was exactly the right guy to fit into that puzzle and he did it with McGrady. You're right. We didn't know what Tracy McGrady was going to be. Jerry Krause did Jerry. Krause is a really unlikable guy in this. He's obviously the guy that killed this thing but he was right about Tracy. Mcgrady be laugh. But I see this all the time and professional sports guys like Oh man. I really liked that guy. I only get him. I want you to get so discover him. He watched him in soy discovery him but think about what he did with pippen. Think about the move he made for Charles Berkeley to get bill. Cartwright did together moves jerry. Krause made were the right moves. He we can criticize him for a ton of reasons but not that he certainly formed teams in found pieces that go along with what Phil Jackson needed and wanted to do. There's no question about that this job but sometimes in your job you could screw things up like getting rid of a Scottie. Pippen to get Tracy McGrady in fact you say well. It's cheaper in younger at that time period Tracy. Mcgrady was go. Make little less Scottie. Pippen Scottie Pippen was only making like two point. Four million dollars at the time. He's a two four so they could trade with Gregg radio out. There Scotty was going to go make tens no but remember. We're not talking about ninety eight when it was over. We're talking about before that. So you still got the books at two and some change yes. Rabi on the books at one is some change you one more year. You could get McGrady for multiple years at this year but you. You're moving from Scott. You've already made that determination. You're moving on from Scott anywhere ninety eight so he's not GonNa be on your team. The only thing you could have done is get Tracy McGrady in hope that Jordan would stick around and then if Joran sticks around maybe he leads you into the future and if he doesn't stick around maybe you got Tracy McGrady to take them out to Jordan in. Move on in the future. That's the only win win that you can get out of it but trying to make six run at the championship with a High School Kid. If I'm Jay I'm like no aren't doing L. Z's top ten is coming up next. Let's get right to it. L. Ziadeh's Tuesday. It is six forty five in the morning. Top ten time. What do you got well Sir April Twenty First Twenty Sixteen. Do you know what happened on that day. I would tell Ya twenty sixteen. Yes hit me. The world mourned because Roger Nelson pass away now. Obviously everyone's going to go through and talk about all the great songs the Popular Ones Purple Ray blocks but this is my top ten list of princess non top ten singles in other words all sanity something not crack the top ten and they were officially released a singles. So no you're not gonNA hear erotic city because it was not officially released as a single however these hand work starting at number ten from the double album that in my opinion is as best album hot thing by Prince. So you listen to that. Now I'm I will admit some of the The lyrics here are inappropriate but as twins were appropriate. But I think for the title like Hot Thing. You kind of know what? The song is about number nine was the saw that for him. It's neat song. Controversy the thing about Prince. That's so amazing. Is that he especially when he was really hitting he had a way of blending and so many different genres of music. Whether we're ROCK DISCO PASTA THUNK but his lyrics were always wrong folks lyrics no matter what genre. He was playing always for the grown folks. I just little controversy because he asked what I I really wanted to know too he says am I black or white and I was trying to figure that out a loan. So what does he? What about the other question nos? Eds gator straight day. Or I just figured he was gained so I was confused about that one came out. We'll talk he's asking questions you know. it was a great great song number eight another love a holding your head. This from this came under the Cherry Moon. Which is the most alcohol Lewis Movies I've ever seen in my life however the music was banging and this was one of the least singles off of that another level holding number seven speaking of movies. This came from the much better movie. Paret that is take me with you. Do the do now was talking about riding down the PCH. Aids coming in from Attica with a convertible. This is actually. This is the one that just feels right. I don't know why he's playing all the live versions of these songs. I'm I'm just GONNA keep it rolling system and I told you I didn't know why your plan all the live versions. We keep it rolling. Thinks we actually can't play because I guess there are no Eric's that are sensible for our listeners. Ears just know the song. It's called sexy. Ms Yeah that probably doesn't qualify. Don't qualify but when I was talking about before how press was so good at using different genres and different forms of music six is a complete tribute to the sound of Change Brown and it is absolutely amazing and if you listen to it today which I have still hose up number. Five is probably the most popular non top ten song and that is nineteen ninety nine. It's so crazy to think about the lyrics at that time you know because we were still dealing with nuclear war here for liberation and Prince made a disco song about. It took a serious geopolitical conversation. Have PEOPLE CELEBRATING IT? That's that's artistry right there absolutely incredible number four. Is You know. We'll pick up line for a long time. Sometimes it works sometimes. It didn't but you could tell me I wasn't prince when I said I wanna be a lover crazy that I saw did not crack the top. Got All the way up to the number of luck. Hey you guys get here. This will be playing. Travis me you sitting at the bar waiting on your friends gear your way which. I wouldn't be trying to because this works. That'd be as I was leaving early. So that's number three is where you go when you want to try some. You don't want to go downtown people. You WANNA go up. No I don't think I like this. So why not doing one of my favorite like the lyrics surprise surprise. Wrap this up now or hey. Because Chris Prince banks put it this way coming in at number two as one of the donkeys groovy is raw dog songs. Princess ever made once again. I can't believe that so then crack. It went all the way up to the number twenty one and it's caught get off now. I will say this would good job because that's another one that's right that's all right for you. That's all right number four number four and you want be your lover and it worked then you went uptown business number two and now number one the number one non talk Cam Transa- to me of all time. Lyrically is the most sophisticated song by years of ever heard the analogies to picture that he paints the details about relationships. The real conversation number one. I don't CARE CARE. Care to me is always a girlfriend. Do your clothes before we go. This was this is I think so that was so pinpoint accurate in terms of relationship dynamics then this one would you run to me as somebody hurts you? Even if there's somebody that is you can't go any deeper than that. You can't let that blows my mind. But he puts the serious dynamics of relationships and made them songs and not like goofy. Sounds like you. You'd be spun and stuff but I mean once you get a certain age and you really start going through one seriously in another serious relationship and you go back and listen to princess songs and he listened to the lyrics. He's really breaking some stuff down so and win. This song came out remember. Just sit lyrics into like okay I get it. See how like this though. I'm glad to find the guy in about three of them. That way. When a top ten Donald Dell Michael Jordan's first agent is GONNA join US coming up next on the morning show at seven ten espn.

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76ers figured out who they are

"Wait for the. White way. Oh man opening tip. Dwayne Wade retirement tour has not disappointed one bit last night getting the sign jerseys from the Spurs. I kinda think it's the best one since Turkey in two thousand fourteen. Right. That's that was my that was my best since Barron. Kobe Kobe pretty damn good this use that me all the time. Stab it off Koby capped it off. Tough. But he said the tour ended his way out. Well, let me ask you a question. If Dwayne Wade caps it with a playoff berth instead of a sixty point farewell better. No eight. Yeah. And look, I the pop thing I guess box. And so I'm like, oh, cool. Pop gave him a gift as signed. But we didn't know this. We didn't know this until I didn't know this until it was after the game. And then he posted on Instagram Ginobili guys that he'd battled with finals. And those guys were like, hey, awesome. Yeah. That was amazing. So it was a great Jesse from pop and obviously the two great finals. And he didn't see it coming. You like a thoughtful gift that you don't see come and that was nice gestures. All right. Welcome to the jump. I'm Rachel Nichols. Alongside two thousand sixteen three one champ Richard Jefferson can throw that in there hall of Famer that's the best title of all Tracy McGrady. And look who's joining us today bobblehead biggie Smalls. That's nice. You gotta keep him somewhere for. I have you know, this is this is currently the best bubble had in my collection. So I had to bring it out today. It's it's a ninety minutes show. We have to have exciting things keep your Turney scores up on your phone. So you can still keep track. But hang with us here. Coming up. We've got Kevin Durant appearance in Oklahoma City last night that was Nicholson's retirement ceremony. And we're going to discuss that's the first step to mending fences with the thunder fans number the signs and the Cup. Yeah. Okay. We'll discuss that. But I you have to know who you are. This is true in life in the NBA in game of thrones. You know, the important. Thanks, forget trying to predict whether you will win or lose until you get a sense of your own identity how to amplify what? You do best had a protect what you do worst. It can't even compete. This has been the Sixers problem for much of this year because look less than a month into the season. They traded for Jimmy Butler in a deal, but added talent but left the roster shorthanded Joel bead cringed at some of the ways he was being asked to play and said so publicly there were stories about locker room tension film session tension, and then the team made another popping trade at the deadline acquiring the Bobi Toby show. So no wonder the Sixers have at times lack the identity to win their big games. Can't really get your feet under you if you don't even know what size shoes you wear. But finally now it seems like things are starting to click. The Sixers came into last night's game against Boston on a five game winning streak. And even though the Celtics lead through the first half. Joel Embiid was obviously more aggressive than he'd been when these teams had previously met the Celtics to hit when Aaron Baynes went down. That is a great to ankle sprain. Not good. And then early in the second half. Well, we had this something syrup double digits here. But Marcus smart gets called for this foul on MB. Smart. Thanks. It's ticket tack. He's frustrated. You can hear the music there. Joel has a history of knowing exactly when an opponent is feeling emotional and how to leverage that. So. Yep. There's the elbow smart flops because that's what Marcus smart does. But then he rises up and goes after NBA, and that is not a small shove of a man who has eight inches and twenty five pounds on him. It hurts. A flagrant. I went by the fischel weights. That's what I went by. Yeah. There is gesturing to the fans to get to checked it. The whole incident sparked Botha Philly crowd and NBA Twitter in in case. You were wondering what Charles we thought of all of this. It was stop popping and play basketball their e either either guys as the fourth quarter progressed. We also saw Jimmy Butler start to spark no, one loves the closer role quite lake Demi he scored fifteen of his twenty two points in the fourth to push the Sixers a head, and then sealed the win with that eighteen footer, and you know, the pose that's going to be. Of course, this is south Sixers. So the chatter afterward just as good as the game over in Boston's locker room, Marcus Morris, criticized Sixers fans for acting like their team had won the Super Bowl Terry Rozier made a crack about not seeing confetti after the game. This is a reference to last year's playoffs. Do you remember when the arena crew dropped confetti for the Sixers only? To have the result of the game. Thanks to that overtime video review. Right. So you made the confetti crack mind, you Rosiere had already taken the shot and bead earlier in the week. He had called M B lame. So over and Phillies locker room last night. And bead was busy posting this on, gene. This is the only post reserve bending down. But then swipe you get the second photo. And that is maybe the most telling and be celebrating with Butler looking like teammates who've learned what they can do together last night. The Sixers started to show they know who they are which means that finally now they can really get to see how good they can be so Tracy you like those speed good. I didn't look at a we'll put those up again, you can check on your phone while you're watching here. But do you think that the Sixers now that now that they finally beat their nemesis for the last two or three years? How do you think they should feel? Well, they should feel inspired. She'll feel confident. I mean, they do arguably have the best starred five in the game. They have the best big, man. I think right now that's the most dominant player in the game to have a close in Jimmy Butler. They have a God s shot away from being the next LeBron James and Benson, and they have some shooting. So they should feel inspire. They were down. What sixteen eighteen points last night against the Celtics? They made a comeback to win this game. However in a seven game series. I still don't think they could be Boston. I think if Marcus smart was in this game and play the defense on on Jimmy Butler at the end, they don't win Jimmy Butler and and the fourth quarter last night to two questionable shots to three. Pointers. It could have been differently. Now, you hit the game winner to seal the deal, but he on. If is Marcus smart never have gotten ejected from that game. I think he made game winning plays to seal the deal for the Boston Celtics. I like Brad Stevens said he said he was disappointed. Marcus smart. There's a difference. When you see your your players fighting. You think your players get a raw deal there? There was nothing there for Marcus smart to take himself out of the game that that's that. Do you think that was warranted of flagrant too? So. One hundred percent to I know this the flagrant to it's more of in that moment. Let's not talk about Pfleger one flavor to it's more. He doesn't belong in the game anymore. When you go in shove a person like that in the back. There's gonna be something to look at the referee with the do that right there. You gotta go that could lead to something else that could lead to suspensions for both teams. Because if he retaliates if all of a sudden something else goes on if this is what you're gonna do. You gotta be out of the game. They're soda cheap shot on L elbowed with him being is bad. What we do chicken? Chicken legs that even when you guys play. Chicken we him. You know, you're gonna move but bumps retaliating. A month ago where he said he gave you an elbow in the back and like nephew out of the game and got nothing for. I do think if you do something like that. Look a lot of what you guys do in these games. It's a little nip here tuck there, the pier. You're doing it in front of everybody deserves to get thrown out. Three here and be flopped on that play agree shouldn't gotten. I mean, he should have never gotten a flagrant to on that on that push right there. It wasn't warranted of that. Yes. Marcus smart has to be smarter than that. No. Because he's a vital part. So there, right. So this gets back to you're saying if Marcus smart is still in the game. If I mean, the airbase thing that's the other thing I want to bring up so the airbase thing the reason job that is no small thing. I know Aron Baynes is not the first thing we talk about with this deep Celtics team. But the on off numbers when he is playing versus not and the way they defend their crazy pants. And so a way to sprain is going to keep him out a while. And then we get back to seating. It was what just the other day the kyri Irving said we're good wherever we ended up seated. I'm going to take a couple of games off to rest for the playoffs. Wind up in that five spot. I don't know. Erin Baynes, isn't there and they end up as number five seed or maybe even lower like, it's something things. Help them out. Is that the Celtics should not I love their confidence. But they shouldn't feel that confident only because teams I feel like have seen the kind of you know, that their spots and their armor that can be attacked, and you can see that they're not as together as they should. Because ultimately if you're down in this series, if you give up a home game you guys have to be locked in. You can't be looking at other people who's going to be looking straight. So for the Celtics. I'll we're fine wherever we get NSA. Nobody else thinks that you guys are just going to just cruise through. But I think that they should feel confident about the seventy Sixers and the seventy Sixers potteries why they were so excited is felt they got a monkey off their back at the end of the day. You were still down double digits. Aim Baynes went out which allowed him be to go off. And you lost your, and and I just don't like, Marcus smart went out. So there's a lot of things that went in your favor to help you win that gas second fuzzier beating Jack live seconds last shot or whatever. Know, you're off the shit, your he jumped off the Celtics she he was on the Celtics are gonna win the title ship. He's. Title. I didn't say I said that they would be the team in the east for the next five years. Let me ask you a question. Just in terms of that little picking players you say other teams see that you were expert at this throughout your career. What would you do if you were playing the Celtics team in a playoff series to try to pick? It what you see some of the weaknesses or differences between talk a lot. But not loud underplayed. Joe man, they keep icing. You like. No tell you them. You wanna come over here? I can't believe they tumble trading. Listen, y'all foul you a bad. Boy mad. You have a great career. I'm not going to be your. I'll be talking about you in the booth. But boy, you just didn't next Marcus lately. Terry rosier, Terry man, y'all was rolling hash airman. What's going on? I don't understand. I know kyri my God. Jeez. So you you do that little every little body just keep whispering things to their here at the free throw line like oh, man. What's going on? I think you should be like, I can't believe he's starting Gordon. Hayward over come on. What was going on some? I'd like to say that I spent almost two decades on the sidelines. Watching Richard do this. This man. Let's man I thought y'all with best team. I can't believe me up to one on at best tripping in kicks in. When things are really go out. Whatever whatever. Whatever go. Well has Richard was saying. We had a chance to each coast playing. You might think there, right? So those are the things that you can do it doesn't have to be loud embarrassed as if you plant seeds like either in the regular season game one game to come game. Six game seven though seed start to sprout, right, right? They started the those doubts. Are you don't have to be loud? You don't have to troll on the internet are little things that you can do that can kind of poison attainment in the playoffs to be. Yeah. All things fair and ref can't say anything about that is no cheap shots. No, physical act involves disturbing. I think the Celtics are vulnerable. I also think they're dangerous. So we'll have to see which way by coming up. We're gonna talk about James harden, dropping fifty seven on the grizzlies last night. It's the second time he's done that to them this season. But they lost this time in overtime. And are the rockets asking too much of him even three back we will discuss. But I gotta get to this. I am more excited about this than I am about my little big bubble hadn't that takes a lot. Because our first of three distant replays on the show. This one's in two thousand eight featuring our greatest living American, Alan Iverson. Oh, hi should now with its Denver. I'm just gonna video game. Even he's like. Yeah. Oh. Everything I'm a. Look look these looking waiter nobody to pass to. All right. Put it up there on that. I love that. Joan is brought to you by all state. Are you in good hands? You look in the camera and say it's a make or miss league. Okay. Then you don't have to say brochure. We love you. Patrick, miss arachnophobia. Watching thirty three quarters last night at slam. Do watch out my guy. Moody, watch the slow motion here moody as I owned on Lisa. Eliecer just Burt like I was. Tell people they don't understand like him in Westbrook or like six three s they've six good day. They six. All right. So I was gonna ask you how far they could go. But look at these doll. Badboy make expressions. Take a look at this. I watch this like ten times why posting Paul George. I like four. Fended? What's? Maybe way he made it. He makes the basket. Oh, where are you? That's great. Where does our top on? They're all legacy feel like he's taken that taking the angle wrong deed apartment dole straw. That was all there was nothing about healthy. That was all like, wait. You don't Bobby now? This. Ways IRS blowing out the Mavs last night and that conscious dancing on the bench. All right. So remember. He was furious on the bench that CJ McCollum was trying to get him to like it was this has been. This right out like you gotta get them. So maybe this is what he's now decided to do is that after like. Now, he's dancing. He's like, I'm good. Happy place. Along seizes law sitting close enough together on the bench for everyone. Oh, make matchups. James harden? Dropping fifty seven against the Grizz last night that second sixty seven point game against Memphis this year, which is a random stat zero. If they should considered Fifty-seven exactly as we are. They considered double teaming him ever at all. Maybe that could be something. They could do. They want. Well, okay. That's the thing. Right going allow James get his fifty seven. I long if you start getting to that fifty nine we got a job. No, he's seven below. We got we got this man is to win and overtime. Now. They did lose the rockets did lose despite James shop and fifty seven he is leading the scoring race by seven point nine per per game. Over Paul, George, which is crazy that would be the second largest margin by scoring champion since the NBA rank scoring leaders on a per game average basis starting in nineteen sixty-nine seventy t- went down to it. And that scoring waste with Kobe that you one point that out a league by some point. I'm point. That's kinda does some point points. Still though are they asking too much of him because I'm just gonna keep saying in the playoffs. They need him to be hundred percent physically rested in active. James's Hct James come to play every single night. He he takes no shortcuts. He is just a Hooper in you know, they're not asking too much of him. This is what he does. This is what he's capable of doing. Other did no worries about the play. Listen, if you think if you do the exact same thing every time and get a different result. That is what the definition of insanity. If you're just going to play six seven guys and James going to do in the in the last two games, they had a two-game lead. They they had a chance of close out the warriors. And he goes six for twenty five from three in those last two games to thirteen the final when he goes over fifty barely have a winning born three great when he goes over forty though Tracy's point. It's not like they they stink. When he goes over forty. They're fifteen and four. And two of those things where he went over fifty was like two playoff teams Miami. And my next my only thing is we know what he can do in the regular season. And if we're going to keep doing the exact same thing planum, forty two minutes and knife where playing them forty four minutes, and I just using his usage rate through the rate through the roof. Yeah. MVP's are great and him and Janas. So the one in two 'em VP's if you look at the minutes played per game for Jaanus versus heart, and it is way different. I don't think they're asking too much of him. I think they need to cut down his minute spe. That's what I think they need to do. But as far as him going out putting up these titles. No what you do when you play cut down his minutes because I go to the games. I'm a sweetheart to the games, and they could be. Yes. He's twenty three D Lexus when he walks out of oh, I'm t- MAC. Listen to games in the rockets can be up eighteen fourth quarter as James is still in the game. That's why when we're talking about. Are they asking too much is not so much like him scoring fifty seven. I'm okay with a guy hitting on fire. I'm okay with someone just getting buck as lead the league in scoring. But at some point time you need to sit out. Dan, Tony talks at the beginning of these seasons about where we're going to keep James Mundus down this year. Obviously in with the injuries in the middle of the season. That was not possible. They fell to stay even in the playoffs. But now that they have much of their team back. How does that conversation? Go will be players coach. This is what I want to say this, and I know people this is going to be probably the thing that people are gonna go nuts on their certain coaches. We either know who they are are we don't have a large enough sample size like Brad Stevens. We know. He's a good coach. We wanna see if you can coach a guy that can our team that can win a championship. We've seen Dan Tony have three MVP's and never make it to a fine. Right. Right. So we know who he is at this point. If I'm just saying, he's a good coach. He's a good year understand. He's a very good coach. But at some point in time is he the coach lead you to a championship is he the coat RC? The coach is going to have a great, right? Where season he's not changing you go back together. Get not changing they missed twenty seven straight threes would think, hey. Drop the ball to the basket. Let's get. But we sit there a sitting here, but we want to sit there and criticize all of these other hall of famers and say they didn't win a championship. Oh, you win a champion. Charles Barkley and win a championship. We're here you have a coach at has had multiple guys with multiple MVP's. And he's not changing these has a championship into a final people have to stop saying. He's carrying the low. This is a really really good team has a lot. Yes. He has a lot of great pieces around him. This is a championship contending team. They they don't wanna championship James harden winning MVP this year. And when if he wins the MVP this year, and they don't make it to the NBA finals. Obviously, they're not waiting champion that will be four MVP that he is in a world where the warriors exist, we keep discussing this. Thunder in the eighth c. Join us. We may still be talking about this new comeback. So hang out. Way double header for the people that Wednesday starting off at ok p with the Pacers and thunder, and then it is off the Salt Lake City for the just hosting LeBron. The Lakers you can catch the game from anywhere, thanks to the ESPN app. Welcoming in ESPN, teeny writers close to the show. And I don't know if you caught what was happening. I called it as you came out. They did argue throughout much of the break. We'll trace his little water but other than that. All right. Just I do it. Every other shows. Watergate exactly already a one area. So so go referee, please chime in. Well. Okay. So you said four MVP's if James wins at this year and four times if they don't win the championship over four. Okay. So losing to the curry Durant. Warriors. Like you're supposed to do. Let's to. Okay. All right. They were. They were all lanes everywhere. This is super team. They're unbeatable. It's unfair Durant. Is there? And then you go back all day can't beat the warriors. Okay. So that's two one one the great one of the last twenty years in the NBA is what if Steve Nash doesn't get hip check. Okay. Maybe that's an excuse. Maybe not that change that series. And that leaves one more look, I'll say this. He definitely needs a top defensive assistant because he does not care about defense as much as as much as offense and you need to care about defense to win in the playoffs. So that's why they've got one in Houston. But yeah, I don't know that championship or bust even with an MVP is a fair way to judge him. I could not disagree with you more only from this damn point. He's not anymore. More height is great team. He's got a great Navient. He's got arguably champion. Three Beth offensive players in the history of modern day to ask they're the best team. They're they're designed best the western. Up three two with a home game. They're up three two with a home game. Crin Chris Paul, but he's still, but we're gonna talk about James's performance and how he goes six twenty five oh they fair. So my only thing is this. If if the greatest coach in modern day basketball right now is great Popovich in he rests his guys. And he says I don't care for one. Or is get me, they're healthy and rested. And you don't follow that same odor. No question. You overplays guys regular season. Your point is that was the question, even if he didn't if he even if he didn't. And they lose feet Ray played sixty five games. They lose to the warriors because the warriors have four all-star level. But this there's an unknown. If James harden was a little bit rested last year was a little bit resting. And let's just say he goes ten for twenty-five. Those those extra threes having a little bit more juice having a little bit more bounce when you they offering all they miss seven this as a person who does not play professional basketball how much I slept on a night two months ago does not affect how I am doing on the show today. So how does it affect you? How you played the cumulative wear and tear, but resting what three or four less minutes playing in some of these games. You really think it's going to have an effect two months later. Absolutely, your you are fresh fresher legs that ninety two. Yes. Yes. For real regular people. It just doesn't work that you take ten games in a month. Right. If you take ten games in a month, and you take out three minutes off of each of those games. That's what that's you know, thirty minutes, thirty minutes thirty. Thirty minutes that's one west game in a month game. Now, you do that you do that over the course of multiple a multiple months and in the postseason Tomba heap play could play by six or seven games. You're that's the argument that he's not maximizing his team's chances to wiz not every play. But that that to me is a little bit different than it's a failure. If they lose to the failure is more of like the final affect if you wear guy down. Best-prepared in that series. Yes. But there's. Oklahoma City whose another contender in the west. But they've lost four straight there. No sitting at eight they were in third like feels like yesterday. It was not actually today. But I think it was less than a week ago last night. They lost a tough one in overtime against the raptors. And look they're legit obviously raptors and they fought back, and they had that miracle was drive at the end of the game which to OT, but I it's the bad stretch for the under right? Yeah. On. They are the strangest team they're just like they're five and eleven in their life, sixteen games. I think in their offense in that span is twenty ninth in the league. The last time they had swoon like this in the season. It was their defense that slumped horribly from being first in the league to very bad overshadow. So there's like no predictable pattern to how they accept. They are. I looked up. Just now they're twentieth or worse in field goal percentage from literally every area of the floor. They're terrible shooting team. So what's happened in the stretches? They're like twenty six there were they've gotten even worse, but their lack of shooting. It's they're kind of Easter famine weird team. But we knew this was a problem that Banta lack of shooting going into the season. They're shooting numbers for bad, which just ask Magic Johnson problem. That's actually where I was going with the Lakers. We've talked a lot about hey this team need shooting. They don't have it with the funder. We've talked about it a little less, but same presi knows what he's doing. So how did he not add? I just. They're gonna add shooting before the deadline. They're gonna shoot him before the deadline, and they didn't do it. Well, adding shooting adding shooters can play in the playoffs is like if that if it were that easy people would just do it because this is like year ten in a row of us saying, well, the funder have enough shooting. Well, I mean you saw what a dick to them in the end of the season. Once they added Ilias over one eight. Out guys there. They don't get them. They think you know, some problem because that's going to hunt them in the playoffs. It's not as if San presi hasn't thought of that like, we could we get more that thought has crossed his mind just. They don't end up being defensively. They're not the same. Paul George hasn't been the same. When he was on. This MVP surge when he was. Yeah. But the difference is to me that the under they might not be playing their best basketball. But I think they're more talented than those three teams up there. So if they have to overcome it, they go in and beat Houston, they go in and beat Santo. No one's like, oh, this is an upset. Right. So no one's looking at that. We so the strength of schedule versus the they gotta get out. ABC greer. End up seventh or eighth is most likely. I mean, they've already lost the tiebreaker to the Spurs you just saw the schedule they make. I think they close against the bucks who may rest their guy. So there was a little they can't get to the sixty. They couldn't no they cut. I'm just saying what percentage wise most likely seven or eight. So I got a little thirtieth is easiest. Clarify. So they got the easiest gas at a ton of road game start to season. But my thing is this. I got a little bit of heat because I said that I don't I'm not really that impressed with Oklahoma City team. Right. And then people were like last year. Well, this is a much better team. They are a much better team than they were last year in my opinion. But who today lose last year to Utah rookie led Utah Jazz by Donovan Mitchell who had never sniffed the playoffs having no experience, and he he owned them you to perimeter guys. You had an MVP. You have Paul George all NBA player. They were owned by a rookie. You had him. Talking trash about Rubio saying I'm shut that blank down. And you're like they're led by rookie. So we're we're gonna sit here and talk about what they need to do. If they couldn't beat a rookie lead Salt Lake City fare, how on earth are they going to really make some noise this year if they're not playing that. Well, how? I know what his regular, but Utah was good. Really good. Layer. The saying cre- it was. Healing struggling team last year though with trying to implement mellow into this say remember who all right up in that seriously? Who are we? Mello's gone. Yeah. Houston succeeding, and Oklahoma City is in eighth spot right now. And would you say lost five of their last five and five and eleven right. Here's the thing. Oklahoma City has not ever gotten Andre Roberson back, which is unfortunate for the defensive whatever happened to. Right. Yes. And Paul George got hurt. And as Tracy said is not the plan quite the same since he came back from that injury. And they ended up in the first first rounding around is gonna be sick of nother loss for the city. Let's go to eight spot on the other conference though, because we got to give the Heat's and love going into saving Tonio breaking the Spurs ninety game win streak and the Spurs at home or no joke right now, Miami has won eight out of their last ten. They are indeed sitting in eighth spot out east. We were talking about the shows about the twain Wade reunion tour, but we should start paying more attention to this heat a real con. I mean, they're not gonna upset the number one seed in the playoffs, but they're making the playoffs. What you think that they can beat the that? They're not healthy. So what keeps finish the sentence? I won't put anything. Booth. Ma'am. They do this every year they get better every year as a season goes on this search toward indices in there tough team. But I just you know, and these are this is not like a fake stretch. They have wins over the thunder the Spurs. The nets the Hornets which are like teams are competing with at the like, those games matter solicitor plan heart. I just don't think they have the firepower offensively to hang with the team like the bucks or any of those top teams of these. They'll they'll play I'm tough tough. Yeah. But making the play offs and this to do especially with the way, you know, farewell, tour all the distractions. These guys come out, and they they're they're playing good basketball to get in the playoffs. And they're going to be competitive. I mean, a special team and D weighed on their these guys are not gonna lay down especially with this being d wave last ride. They're gonna play their butts off, and they wanna challenge Milwaukee. Can they beat them? No. I don't think. So I just think they don't have enough. Always like drug is back that. Helps and and you gave him credit like every time. There's an injury Justice wins goes down James Johnson hadn't played in like a month comes back to Asian. I I love watching Johnson played he's playing he's giving them. Great minutes. Right off the bat. Oh, connect Jerry Jones. Building look, oh, repealing don't keep through an inch harder within from that angle. That is the harder thing to do. Ask late telling you that look at this. Oh, they don't know. If you don't know, you don't know. In from that high. Third. Can we talk about the nets one step above them? Then they had the number one strength of schedule. That's going to be. We're talking about the heat and possibility of the nets popping out. They got the toughest schedule that kings will get that look at that that kings one was living their whole season. Yeah. That's hugh. They got the number one strength schedule and the nets are battling. And they're doing everything they can. But that looks scary. Scheduling you see number one. Let's go bad. Now fad is the east that we don't even need to talk about the pistons the pistons above the fray, these is so bad that the pisses like we're out of this whole discussion. We'll talk about that. And Joel Embiid saying use the most unstoppable player in the league coming up next. I don't know if you should be saying that out loud beaches everything out loud, it's time for her next distant replay. This is speaking of the pistons. Hey, Sean prints this date in two thousand four I don't think it's thinking. Am lookout. The net. Thank you. Like inspector gadget like the arm would come out. And that was the end of. Wow. To the world. Got the word. Sagger noble is the best. Upi? This can't go anybody saw. Then. So that. I'm the most. They go. Joel Embiid to cash hover telling himself the NBA's most unstoppable player, Casey rethink. Spirit to it. I think he's the most unstoppable. Big, man. I don't think he's the most stoppable player in the game me. He's a dominant force. I kid that title to. Katie because his viciously fate and the guys that he's playing with. He's still. Did you hear Katy? Onsite. We had a guy who look we just had a long. We just I think K D is the best player right now. Between best player in the league. And most unstoppable, I think. Kevin Durant is currently holds the title of best player in the league. I think James harden has been the most unstoppable this season. There's two different things. Taran thing is he had thirty seven twenty two versus Boston. He had forty and fifteen versus the walkie, whatever you wanna say that gets you in that mind, say say, whatever you want talk talk talk talk. Walk your walk, whatever it takes you to get into that mindset on. Yeah. I mean James on that list. Here's why I say Katie because gets Fadi half the volume that James oh God. He will eat doesn't he plays on a team with other really good players to win to win championships champion. Look at the bottom of the TV. Not question. I would also go hard. And but I love him be just making rivalries every like we can't walk out the door without making a rivalry. He was right. The other thing you said in that interview him playing the clippers much, but he talks about himself as defensive player in the year. And he's certainly in that conversation. Play Milwaukee of garden Johnson. That was really impressive guy. His size to play that type of defense on MVP candidate like Jaanus impressive the ad that block at the end of the game last night. I think I just like I don't know that a guy that size has recovered like he can jump once. And you think oh that's hard into the play. It's hard to get Kyrenia. All all this going on. You know, all all know. And he does break one on one on. Oh. Well, okay. You also heard Joel say, oh, I heard that. These are the guys I can't play against right? He's talking about the Al Horford just discussion. Good last night. He first of all that has been true not that he can't play against them. But they've limited him better than than poor for specifically has historically done that I'm saying these are the guys who to send me best which as he say shirt, which has been true. But last night Lookie if you can't keep them up to foul line. You can't stop. If he's alive. Yeah. Gotta gotta give a shot out. You got a seven footer that got all this three seven eight twenty for twenty one like Steph. Curry would have trouble doing that. Right. Like, that's impressive. If we there is. No hacker shag L twenty twenty on the bacon at the three point line. He's a problem. He's he's probably he had it on his mind. He knows that stake. These guys what three know coming into on his momma, he was also crying too. Butts every time it's not derive over wanting to get it done. And actually getting it done or two different things. He got it. There's a bunch of deserving candidates also for most improved player award. I want to hone in on the debate between the ngelo Russell and PASCAL Seattle because Accu are thriving the past bandwagon. You you brought it into training camp. You Lou reloaded it up being cleared it close by month one that the season. Like a special allowance for Scotty Pippin because you know, six rings gives you like in the very last seat on the bandwagon. Are you saying he is the most improved players? Get your vote us going to get my vote barring something unforeseen, I think the jump. I think the jump from the jump from bench role player too. I mean, he's been with Colli in and out lineup Lowrie lineup. He's been the one constant on their teams seventeen seventeen game mister net-. Nobody ever. Like the floor who said barring something unforeseen like twenty five point comeback. One of the greatest comebacks in NBA history. Led by the Android. Absolutely end. Then you your own words said their season. What does the done to save their season? And then doesn't need say, exactly. Good in the safe never seen. Tracy. Your argument your argument with with all of the engine admission. Exhort we saved their we talk about cares for Burt going out the entry Spencer Dinwiddie having an injury, and your most improved if everything that you just said in favor of Siaka has been done by the Angela judgment of most improved is very simple who improved the most. That's it. I don't care. I don't care head who we improve the lows. I like Sappho have any type of pressure on him because he's playing with this is award. Why Russell they lost their best player and care. Sliver. He was on the verge becoming an all star games had to step up and carry the low for the Brooklyn nets de loop savage. There's say season he had pressure on him. He had to. When his faith that. You know what I might do? I might put him second. All. Oh, good enough. What if sales? Just look at this get even heard of pass Kelsey, but that's their fault. Because they I. I I like the point differential I like all of that stuff. But sometimes most improved can be a guy that we know who he is. He's made the biggest jump not just in stats, but in as leader is an appoint quarter performer as in knocking down bigshots all go into heat. Heatwave is done. But has he really made an improvement. I mean, he just didn't get the opportunity last year. He didn't thrash. The thrashes get better. He didn't he first of all he shooting almost he's shooting over forty percent from three in the corner, and he could not shoot threes from anywhere. So yes is passing ball handling. All that is improved eighteen point though, about what makes most improved lit. It's I don't think I can do it now because of the way his tailed off after the shoulder injury. You could have made an argument for Paul George as most Greece just have to be a guy who's scaredy to being a name in the NBA. That can make you most improved. I like Siaka he would probably be probably second. Maybe third don't really actually disagreed. We do we do. I think he couldn't agree with you. Russell. Visceral for tomorrow. Biggest to carry a one insider David minimums gonna join us. He's gonna ask LeBron the right to ask. With into what we talked about what he's. The board room from executive producer? Kevin Durant available right now on ESPN, plus and get a free trial of it. So you can start that today. Welcome into the show are Lakers insider, David Benham in. I have to assume that you're sure accuse orange your sporting today up here. Onto. Down below. And I was like where are we going with this? Gal. It's a family show. I'm gonna make that clear. Speaking of Kevin Durant. He was in Oklahoma City last night in attendance for Nick, collison jersey retirement ceremony Carlson, Katie teammates, of course, for nine seasons. Both Seattle and ano- KC and hear the really nice. Here's what Nick said about Russell Westbrook during the ceremony. Take a listen to this. I just wanted to tell you Russ. I I've always admired you. I wish I had your courage. I just I appreciate the fight. And thanks for coming out every night ready to rock with us. I appreciate that. Thank you. Boy asked by our voice young if katie's number should be retired in Oklahoma City. Collison said is there decision to make politics there? But I certainly think so he's been to ten to under basketball spent a huge majority of his career here. A lot of these honours are just kind of what the team decides to do a let other people debate that. But to me, he's a big part of what he did here breach. Do you think look Katie himself has tried to mend fences with Russ with the team several times? He doesn't want there to be trouble. Because he's the guy who left most of the time. I knew breaks up there like just I just want everything to be okay. Russ's ivy. Jerry heard. Say he's hurts. I'm not putting motions of his mind. But he is obviously not wanted to mend fences and the funder fans. Let's be honest with all of a sudden in the things even recently what they said to katie's mom, which was inappropriate like they have not wanted to mend fences. Do you think that thunder fans are will maybe this is the start, and I'm gonna say who cares? Who cares? And this is the thing about Katie. That's by fans week should allow that. When fans cross the line that's one we should allow fans to be time to hold signs, the be jerks talk track responsible organization, and what Katie has done for them. They need to respect the decision because understand this you remember when they were the Seattle SuperSonics and live you do. I love going to Seattle. I hate going. Okay. See I didn't hold any grudges against them. So look if if they're okay with moving billion dollar franchise kidding. Player the okay with the player that left. And so is when he retires then you let a little time passing. You're like, hey, we want to put it up there before he goes into the hall of fame a lot, Tracy McGrady. Also, so you should allow a guy to do that. Cases number should be up with the rockets because I've been saying that right? And in Orlando Toronto, he was their Orlando Landau. They I mean, this is listen the fans are hurt because they saw championships walk out of the door. This this all about obviously, I think they've gotten over it. They will love Katie to, you know, go back, and and hopefully, you know, join forces with Russ, and and Paul George bring a championship. They're not going to happen. But you know, I just I think he deserves everything that's going to come to him. That's having his jersey one day in the rafters in. Okay. See he's done so much for that franchise other than just deliberate championship, but he's meant so much. Okay. So he was housing. It's jersey retired. And I like that I really do about something. Whose jersey will be retired as it should be about something. Get over it. There's a classic move owned not to go. The LeBron example Cleveland fans through batteries him. Once he came back. It's a member of the heat. Obviously came back a play for the franchise. So that's a little bit different. But if they can get over that certainly, okay. See fans can get over you cover checking Koby rate. And now, they're all buddy buddy shack was there for Kobe's jerseys retirement after thing going up. But then we do see guys look is it Thomas, the the larger the older, Isaiah Thomas and Scottie Pippen's getting still wants no part of Isaiah. And so there are fences that don't get mended. And I don't know whether this. Standpoint that's a competitive team an old teammate shack seem deeper to me like a deeper deeper argument, then two old rivals and that one got mended. So I don't know. But there were some off court stuff to that that affected their. Relationship. But okay off court things affected that men for a lot of that. Especially with those guys you say about Karl Malone. He. Yeah. They don't they don't. There's no love lost their. I'm glad you're here. Because there is a great story from our old teammate Rushmore Qazi in the LA times today talking about Jimmy Goldstein. If you don't know Jimmy's name, you certainly know him by look he has been a courtside fixture at playoff games really throughout the league. He travels but during the season, he's a fixture at Lakers games. However arosh found out he's not a Lakers fan. Here's what he said. Quote. I am a big clippers fan. I have always been anti Lakers fan. I'm always rooting for the visiting team everywhere. I go all over the world. People will walk up to me those stake. Oh, lakers. And I tell them I'm not a Lakers fan. They look shocked. They say, but you go to all the games. And yes, I say I'd go to watch basketball not to root for the Lakers. I shout out for the samba. There is really no in dresses like Jimmy Dave is this just Jimmy goal seemed being Jimmy go seen or are there. Lakers. Fans jumping ship to the covers here since when did Jimmy Gould seen become someone who could be the spokesman liberty phantom. I am is Jimmy go seen the celebrity. Like, he's in the NBA world. But if he walked into a -nother realm would even be known because you with. With the Lakers celebrity. Biggest basketball fan you access because he travels all around to different. All right the programs, but some of the people in this real I've still seen it licks game. This year, Denzel Washington way, bigger starlet. Jimmy Goldstein has been coming consistently this year. Playoff games. All over the country. But him. Shrink and the t- that would go. All right. So how has how has the courtside because that was one of the things about LeBron coming to the Lakers this year? There's a lot of Showtime's back. This Lebanese all be there. And at the beginning of the season man, we saw Jackie there. There's a lot that was the moment for her to say, okay. We're finally back eighteen pests at that. So what have you seen as the tailspin happened has not been the same consistency? You still see Hollywood exacts that come and sit courtside IDC. Scotty Pippin sitting courtside for Lakers games. And you know, the handful of regulars that we've become accustomed to flee from up, chili peppers, Anthony, Keita's, etc. I've seen them this year. I will say that I go to clippers games, and I do see more celebrities at clippers games, whether they're coming from Lakers games or not I see more celebrities at clippers games than I used to. And there has been a little bit of conversation over the last month or two LeBron James came out west, and look you covered this as closely as anyone he wanted to come to Los Angeles family wanted to come to Los Angeles. He wanted to be in Los Angeles. And it seemed to no brainer certainly to him of. Well, I'm gonna if I want come to LA I'm gonna play for the Lakers gets the Lakers. Do you think there is now a feeling of? Hey, maybe he did not choose the right L A team. We're showing pictures there some clippers folks I've always thought Jerry West who he had a great relationship with and talked to early when he wasn't winning MB finals games. Jerry West is we went through that. I thought he might want to come play for Jerry West. Here's another guy with crystal or has a great relationship with heat knows through Chris Paul's lens. What it's for the clippers in this city where you go throw out if I pitch and a dodgers game. You get booed because the fancy liquors fans, and they are what control someone LeBron's camp a couple years ago. Lebron will never wear clippers jersey. It does not align with the brand and his version of excellence see that I get that. But if he wants to win a championship are thank clippers was the right move in Jay has been able to do for different franchises. Doc Rivers being a championship coach. And he St. what he's doing right now without an Allstone his roster. I mean at LeBrun James to these guys with some cap space bring in another guy champion plant for championship next year. And they just there's just not enough stability not enough to build you. Don't question the Lakers lake. There's not enough ability. You weren't questioning Bron where to go. There is Doc Rivers going to get fired. All of a sudden those questions were media. You don't question you don't question, you know, bombers commitment right now. And I'm not saying that you question Jeannie buses, like Magic Johnson zero experience, rob Pelinka zero experience. And then you've got Luke Walton who is a young up and coming coat Doc Rivers it like he he knows what he's doing. We just average that don't know winger that. Well, that's probably somebody else. Okay. And then even more interesting Lawrence Frank I've had there. I know Lawrence. Frank has been a head coach, I know of Lawrence Frank has been assistant coach, I know Lawrence Frank has been around the NBA directly for twenty plus years. So you just look at there's more stability on the clipper side in Lakers. DC if you're LeBron James the appeal a plan for Magic Johnson and magic who said so much success running Vinnie different ventures, including being involved with the dodgers Lakers that one to me seems like you look at that one for one. And you're like, okay, I'm okay with that. I do get the jury west connection. I would have been intrigued by that. If I were LeBrun and the duck river connection also playing championship coach. But I do get what you say the mystique. Young talent that either you could play alongside or they could flip for another establish star and the cap space to get another star. I left cap space. Great jersey. They used to say. Players are could get coaches fine. Serie planned the day two thousand nine we brought fake baby. Back for you take. A look this date tactics is the latest. The disappointed. Tang Talaat her? Before. But. Sportscenter six o'clock eastern, Zuma Hattie reaction to the turn of first round games and countdown to dine and dukes debut tomorrow night on ESPN ESPN app times of the return of tank wars. We've new signing graphic distractive. What can I tell you hear the teams with the worst records this year the bottom three remember this time? It's different. They all have the same essentially the same chance to lamb the top pick their fire. I would say that the caps are a little bit playing the fire. Snow winning. Yep. I wouldn't need games a little bit. You fall into that. I don't know. Maybe maybe not who's the best fit though for the top products that limb to predict who would you like to see him. Ideally, those teams teams likely to get him to see him next to Zoya artist. One apologize on behalf of all MBA players past president future for where you're going to end up because. Spunk. And that's how you end up at the bottom Chicago. No one in the NBA's like Chicago, Cleveland, I would say to me pobably has a little bit concerned. But you don't even know who this head coach is going to be next year for Cleveland. Right. So like you look at the hawks I say the off Knicks God, no the sun. I would say the talent on the sun sing and play next to those guys that would be great. But if the there's just in there, you got Sarb or who, you know, you don't know who their head coach is going to be there is no place there in that five that looked like there was any type of consistency and his star. And that's the thing. If you go their certain places, you'd think that okay after he went after he plays out his rookie deal. He'll sign one more. And then leave from what I hear. He doesn't wanna play in a big market. So. If you're just a number one peak. Here's my suggestion. I mean that say you have Katie and a in a carry on your roster. You get this number one pick. James trait that pick to New Orleans get Anthony Davis have him in the big easy. And that is recipe for both sides have and New Orleans back. They have their star player. And that's that's Steve franchise. TV francis. Not wanting to go play who doesn't want to be in a big market movers. Great. I I do think a smaller market would be best for him at land. I like their collection of talent you put them next to college. We put them next to trae young a good young coach there. The problem is I think that'd be bad for the league. The hawks don't move the needle all that much weight. Can if you get him and they start winning yet. It's been a long time since they have though they want. Should be big basketball cities. And yet the attendance has been. Chicago. It would be it would be wildfire for the league. I say we go with that two percent. Let's open that list. Let's see who's got a two percent chance. With the San Antonio. Chance. Yeah. That would be storyline. Everyone would be mad. And I. Hang out. We're gonna talk about who is the ideal first round matchup for the nuggets. Everybody is talking about who would like to get the nuggets who to get. We will discuss that first. Here's with jump recommends for today on the ESPN app checkout. Kirk boys half the piece up it's about why Luca Danni has the perfect game. Where the NBA is headed really good visuals in this piece. It's a lot of fun on your hap-. And then keep us to. Joan is brought to you by delicious, refreshing, Pepsi. You're on the job. All right PIN number three overall NBA Jeff prospect John rant in action the bone. Our love. Oh. Not now. Bottom near coming up. How are you? Josh draft saw to ball out because we've seen guys. I mean, like Ben Simmons didn't do well and. He's been on the national stage this year, he performed well. I don't think he has to really prove himself to improve his draft stock. He's done that. Yeah. And he ain't moving up. Yup. This thing. I don't think that will be better for him to not just be like ninety make the tournament. Go Vince young. Would've have better to concentrate on a matchup. Charity time the sons of greed, designed free agent Chipper. Deal with a team option in the second year courses confirmed to ESPN in news first reported by Amazon sports, ninety eight point seven FM. Do you think that there's some jimmer magic? Here's a wash jimmer when I was in China. And he I mean he belongs in this league. Because he share whatever his is impact on basketball is like Tim Tibo and Michael Jordan people those in the league if he gets with the right anyway. I don't know what they're doing this for the sons, we're really going to talk about them as a beacon of what should be done in the NBA. I don't know. Maybe they're trying to stay safe. They want a couple of games in a row. They maybe shouldn't. So I don't know they're doing here. I don't know. I'm happy. All the happy for jimmer for that Dunn's forward. Kelly Oubre junior will undergo a minor procedure. This league sources told won't on young already beloved by Phoenix fans, but he will be restricted free agent this summer and the his agent and Kelly very quick to make it known. He'll be just healthy and fine. He's kind of doing this now. So he'll be really healthy when she wants to sign him to the sun show him the bag or someone else. Try to get in there with offer sheet on the bat. I like he plays hardy plays a right way. He's exciting. He's not a guy that you're calling and calling place for but improve his defense improve his jump shot. I think he'd be an impact and pack. Click the great third option. All right. Wolf said that they don't expect. Here's a list ready. Derrick rose, Jeff Teague or Robert Covington return the season all sidelined with injuries. Minnesota, of course, way out of that playoff picture. So I was wondering if this helps or hurts cat chances catch chances are making all MBA because as we know if he makes it he gets a thirty million dollar. Mask, and he wants he's going to put up the numbers right or they're going to play so poorly with you don't think. You don't think he didn't make it? I wonder if he misses Jimmy Butler yet. Oh into play. I don't think I'm waiting is not about when it's about winning. Season. This is about getting those all eight numbers for him thirty million plus. Daimler told him being dot I'm one of the best players in the. Me how I am not not fried too. I bet. This guy's been in the west is his whole career. And all he has done was led Portland to the playoffs year after year and. Yes. He's one of the best players in the game and one of the best celebration his baby. You know, if he was playing in New York and LA somewhere trust me fat fan fan. Watch. And by the way died who approach to an MBA player the right way every gory on and off the court logo. Lillard I'm in on him. Absolutely. You talk. You're talking deserve. It are at ninety minutes extravaganza. It's winding down it's felt only like eighty six or something. Flown by what we've gotta talk about the nuggets. There's been a lot of discussion about avoiding the wires in the first round all these teams advan basis say it can afford the words to play the nuggets as not given the nuggets there respect this is. This is a. The west at all season. My question is who said baby trying to get in the first round lose their most ideal opponent their game. There what half game behind the champs of the topsy that west. So who would who should they be hoping they match up with the first round? More store and clippers are in. Everyone wants the clippers declare by the clipper Spurs, you just you get worried about pop I think the thunder. You never know with them. Sneaky team because the star. So you can't just smother one guy. The. Loaded. They are loaded. They have they have debt they have a high level point guard. They gotta have a radar going to play solid defense. They have a guy that is a match up nightmare in joke. It you got Paul Millsap who is Mr.. They should want to play the clippers. Clippers how I would say this clippers if if Lou will can be Lou will be closer. Then they have a chance. Also, I think they wanna play. L A B C's. I would say that. But the clipper our thunder have to all NBA guys. Right. And then you you you're worried by Steve Adams, they got some you got a lot going on you Schroeder. You've got some some real problems Schreuder skews, me, whatever I screw the issue. The issue today. I gotta hit my one that I get. All right. Let's get to our league past game. The night. It is Pacers. At warriors ten thirty eastern from oracle Pacers been this field that story the season after what they've accomplished before. And after victim depot season ending injury. So let's coach of the year here. We don't expect them to have to go out and win this game against the warriors. But where isn't it McMillan in your coach your rankings? He's he's high. I think he's up there. He deserves some consideration considering leisure coach of the year and Terry Stotts, man. I mean, he he's done. Out west with you know, the Portland trailblazers being right there in the fourth seat in Western Conference. I mean, come on all MBA back core. Right. If they have Tyler you think that you think that I love I love CJ McCollum game. You don't he's not making all NBA. No. I'm just saying. But if you're talking about that back hordes, they one of the best that one of the best backwards. It's like it. It was the same reason why we always were frustrated with the wizards in underachieve right there. Right. Where they should be. You have one of the best guards in the great to. So also. Oh, wow. So if Indiana Pacers without west being what? Oh, thank you. I like Nate McMillan right is one when you do expected things, right? Where where Portland trailblazers are. It's barely expecting someone to tell you that. You wouldn't be surprised Nate McMillan after the injury. Victor depot. Everyone was expecting them to fall off the haven't they excelled? That's what they were kind of surprised team last year. And then this year, you use your time all star, and you still do it. That's impressive. They're in the foresee right now, I don't think they would maintain. Thank you know, not having people. They're going. These are some of the other candidates alone. Kenny Atkinson what he's done. I think Mike Malone is probably for them to barely miss the playoffs and be the number one and number two seats, but low. Alone. The Acton coaching here. The warriors on their side of the coin they will be getting DeMarcus cousins back tonight. He's been cleared to return after missing those two games. But the sore ankle Tracy where we're going to talk about that. But I do want to also before we close the show. I wanna pay some respects here. We have some sad news to report now cliff Dixon, a lifelong childhood, Fred if Kevin Durant he was shot to death outside in Atlanta club overnight. Durant durant? Mom Wanda tweeted these moments ago. The Durant family extends our deepest condolences and prayers to Cliff's mother siblings. Family and friends are family was an extension of his. We shared wonderful memories. His transition is an incredible loss for all of us who loved him. He will be missed dearly. First of all that was beautiful very eloquent from Wanda, and our thoughts definitely go out to Dickson's family and Kevin Durant. I know you guys were talking about this during the show this. This is going around the or tweeted at first, and I didn't know. Instagram and early we're backed cliff Dix and condolences to his family.

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"Today's opening tip is the NFL embassy. Ball course and to spend with the rose. Competition. Player three that nice move. Graham played football of all horse played basketball university of Miami. There's been some good legit. Tom was a Hooper the best. I've seen -til. Randy moss basketball, clearly. Yokoo ninety bucks gates nice big team played football in high school. If you want to go in the other way around so you don't count, man. This guy's a pro. There you go. Welcome to the jump. I'm Rachel Nickell alongside our front office insider now has an and the hall of fame Tracy McGrady so excited for this show a little bit later, we are going to see Tracy with Kobe Bryant. The conversation is fantastic. I can not wait to see. This. Gotta get this a news though. I we're only two days away from the NBA trade deadline forty eight hours from now and. Boom. We got our buyers and sellers board out, but first breaking news. John wall already out for the rest of the season because of his injured he'll now need surgery for a ruptured achilles after slipping in his home. According to the team. Now, the wizards have not determined a date for the surgery, but said walls expected to miss approximately twelve months from the time of his operation. He I had surgery on January eighth for bone Spurs and other chronic achilles injury who have sore. Achilles that got infected. He's got to wait for the infection inflammation to go down before he can even have the surgery on his ruptured achilles. So as we look at what the wizards wall for the next four years. He's going to be making thirty eight chilling at to Crean. I mean, it doesn't look if he plays it all next season. It would be very very surprising. So do we need to move the wizards over to our sellers board? What are they going to sell this? What what are they going to sell? You don't have anybody to. So if they wanted to trade away, Bradley Beal -ccomplish, I mean, the only thing you could sell quote, unquote, as if you could take one of your good aspects and put it onto a bad as his contract. John wall's going to get it off the books yet for there's not a good asset in the world that you can attach to that contract where we just saw on the screen for years every forty million dollars for a guy. That's this is a lot of serious injuries on a harm the most important thing for guys explosive in as quick as yeah. I don't know John wall. The times that I have met him. Everything has been good. I don't know from Adam what I hear. Hearsay? This is a humbling experience with John wall. Right because all the all the things that are said in the media about John wall and his stuff off the basketball court to have surgery on your hill and be recovering from that. And then have this happened. Like, this is a this is a major injury for a player like this. I mean, this is huge. We talk about how will boogie come back from something like this. It's the same thing for I do know John wall. I've covered him for two years. I have always found him to be super dedicated to basketball. He loves the sport he loves playing. You can see that in his game. This is just heartbreaking. I mean, no matter how you feel about the Washington Wizards, no matter how you feel about John. This is just. Changing injury everything about John Ross predicated on his speed. And you know, what this makes me think of your Anthony Davis is it. I'm not gonna take that extension. Don't you think John wells happy? He got four years down. Now. Don't you? Thank. And he's twenty eight years old old guy. Funny. You mentioned Anthony Davis. Because now from the producers of hey, watch and buggy watts. Oh. Age just tweeted, and that means you know, what on up there? The Lakers are still glad to engage with the pelicans on an Anthony Davis trade, but no longer want to bid against themselves leak sources tell ESPN Lakers are waiting for the pelicans to make a counterproposal. The pelicans responded. I love the this is eighteen. Good. Well is reporting last night. The Lakers added, Josh heart and beaches zoo box to the trade package that aren't included. Brandon ingram. Kyle. Kuzma, Lonzo ball and two first round picks. Look the reporting this morning is basically the Lakers feel like they're just negotiating against themselves Ramona Shelburne, who's tweeted out that there's a feeling that no matter what they do. The pelicans aren't really taking this seriously are that go let me to capitalize key wording in the woods. Latest update. Hells wanna be compensated, perhaps even overcompensated to even consider a deer with LA? Do you feel Tracy? The Lakers are closer or further away from landing AD. From the pelicans. I don't make a deal with the Lakers right now is the only team that has given me offer. I'm waiting until next year this off season to get the Celtics involved to see what kind of package they could come up with. So I'm not in a rush to get rid of AD just because the Lakers offered me their whole damn team. Like that's not intriguing to me to. Whereas I wanna get other teams and Volve to see what kind of pack is they come up with their desperate to land AD. And and we know that I think the Lakers have moved closer to the full booklet baggage. We talked about today just everything. Everything you want. But there's some really important interesting. That is that the right. The the puck is had to make a counter they have to say they have to verbalize that enough. I want six from or whatever it is. I wanted to go trade for extra for Trump big from somewhere else they have to make the it's not enough to say that's not enough. They'll Dem's if I'm Madge del. You gotta tell me what the price is. You can't say not good enough. Not good enough. You had to tell me what good enough is otherwise it's what Ramona talk about I'm not gonna keep outbidding myself when there was never a counter meat. I mean, if I'm the pelicans. And I'm looking at what you're throwing at me. It's it's not intriguing to me. I'm not getting back a superstar player, although I'm getting a bunch of guys bag bunch of young talent. But there's no player is going to change my franchise if I get rid of a franchise player Celica, the Celtics are certainly encouraging the pelicans to wait until this off season, right? They want to make the deal for a D there. Possibly dangling Jason Tatum in there. Which by the way, Jason Tatum playing out the rest of the season in the postseason knowing that you know, when the button comes to push junior out they're going to the pelicans. But anyway, look the question is would you trust any age enough to wait it out? And when I say that I don't mean The Danny age is a liar. Duplicitous? It's a compliment. I think he is a genius. He has taken the lunch money of every GM. He has made a major trade within the last five years. He's fantastic at this. He's so good. And I don't know are you making sure if you wait until the summer are you handing Boston leverage in negotiations. Maybe Finian's doesn't already need. And I'm by the way, this is not saying they should trade into the Lakers per se, but just should you do deal now. I sedan, sir. Is this should wait. Just like you just have to do. The Lakers is just anybody. They should wait. This doesn't do the Celtics. Also, everybody's for everybody. Think about it. This. This move will probably happen after draft. Let's say if the drought what if the Knicks get the number one pick right in trade that pay that right? There is intriguing for the pelicans to get that number one pick in Trey Anthony Davis to New York. It's more options will come back late. It's all the all the time line put before right now only applies to the Lakers. Everyone else is there are there. Are there are pros? And there are const and all of the ideas of why you wait until the summer are real. I'm not saying the real I am personally a little more risk averse, which is probably why I am not a GM right of a team. But risks risks worry me when this is the greatest asset your franchises going to have guys get hurt. And by the way, John wall, just got her home AD, even if you sit him the rest of the season still gonna work out. He's still going to be on the practice sport. He's still going to be at his house. He's still gonna just have. He could get hurt. More the guy you have your eye on trading for could get hurt. Jason Tatum could get hurt. Zayn? Williamson could get hurt guys get hurt. Also. I think that if you have leverage now, forget the Celtics and forget the Lakers. If I am he stern conference team that thinks I am close. And I could trade. AD for the next to- playoffs. Even if he considers those rental and by doing that you keep him away from Boston. I think that's pretty interesting to the all the all the circles, it comes all back to the pelicans del Dem's. They'll doesn't feel compelled to make a deal right now. I'm with you bird in the hand versus tuna Bush. It's what they should thing that for me the risk would make me. But really, it's all that's why GM, but it's a good point. Because it's all about what what are we value? Do we value security or do we value the big splash that may not happen? And so I get what you're saying. But I think the main thing is there's nothing that's on the table now that could get off the table. Meaning if Dell's says okay, Lakers, it's pretty good offer still be there. They're just somebody. Another team is getting to play playoffs verses one playoff team. Could by the way trade for him. Now use him through this. Then they could auction him off this summer. But you know, we'll see what happens come out. We're gonna show you an extended version of my conversation with Tracy McGrady and Coby there is so much good stuff in this conversation. I can't even oversell it. I really can't. I told her producers when we came back from this. How good it was. And they all watch it. And it said you may be undersold it. The best thing you've ever done. This is our district replay. It's this date in two thousand eleven brother. Yeah. Featuring out Thornton take a look at this. Florida state. Julia. Jordan. Looking at that wizards logo that was one of the most unfortunate little does washing history. Heats are votes college. Take it from the people who. ESPN's experts. Switch silence. It's the crossover beginning tonight on ESPN. Make this a medical miss leak. Yali right. Just making the Lakers trade offer for them. Putting his. On the ngelo Russell finishes with the spin in the bucket so found out. Stephen francis. Watching this game. When it happened guy. Right there. To take him. Approximation right. Oh, nice this authenticity. Chris Paul again, the hoop on the break thought, he got fouled weird face at the rest. The. He gets bare his teeth teeth. He likes the troll. We know he likes the troll, right? This. Right. Yeah. He's so good. This is like he's a resident of the players association. He can be so smooth in order to move so diplomatic the court on the court baby-faced as. As only speaks. He does that. Jaanus airballs three in the first quarter. The nets banshee get excited. To go and finish with thirty fifteen nine three bucks. One by nineteen. I don't know them guys be the one. That's a whole. That's all. Said with some of these other guys who don't shoot you gotta try to shoot. Otherwise, nobody would play you short. Even if you're not making them. Miss subtly. We'll take slob Marvin Bagley finishing it with the. Sixty okay morning. The kings be affirm ouster. The kings. They over the lawn was twenty six. I was on. And by the way, they're looking to be buyers at the trade deadline. I'm telling you may sneak into. TV? Running back to the most athletic Allieu of all time. I love this. Let's look at Chaumont to JR in two thousand ten. Oh, thank you. Good busy. Thank you. The ryen goes making low of making a back catalog. Come on, Vince Carter. On this. The database looking back on the first one. Yesterday. This is who. Own. Oh, I think I'll put it this. That's the best even Jess it's time. Guys. We have a lavar ball citing. Fortunately. Yesterday. He said we want to LA. But if he's traded, I don't what was it Window World. Phoenix is the best fit for him. And I'm going to speak it into existence. Well, the sons reportedly reached out to vote leaguers pelicans to express their interest in a Quiring Lonzo. So. I mean, would you like to see the full family has a newest catch members? On sons of anarchy right now. Rachel some more drama true feedings, we if lawns basketball wise. That's a great lavar is is pretty bright in one in his kids. Not just the opposite because he'd have opportunity New Orleans, but this is a team that's starved star for a point guard and a point guard of his salad plate wants to just get it up. Get other guys involved. It would be irony of having had three of those kinds of point guards. At one point. Let's keep talking about it. But here's the thing you tell me lavar ball Roberts over I'm telling you, they need their own spin all show spinoff own show. This is owned Joe in show within a show is some. I know key is a whole is Asian Robert, lavar, that's a whole different show by itself. I I actually liked this look for him if they can make this happen. I expected more out of Lonzo in his sophomore year in the league. But of course. You know, bring LeBron James. So your your team changed everything gonna have to take backseat? I actually think he will flourish and become the player that I of you know, I predicted that he could become a Jason kill like, you know, playing along with those two young players Booker and the under eighteen I think it's a perfect fill several people yesterday noting that if the ball family did end up getting Phoenix, and lavar was running around criticizing ownership as he has done another places. At least everyone in the city would agree with him. So. Coming up. We're gonna airport one of Tracy nice at down with Kobe Bryant. This interview is so good. We are splitting up into two segments of this show because we have so much to show you they discuss their early friendship there on court rivalry so much more next. You are watching the jump state tuned for this. Thursday of one PM eastern. Oh, yes. We will be live for three hours leading up to the NBA trade deadline this show. We'll have everything woes bombs home affairs, given their hot takes. And of course, then trade Craig is back. I don't care. Messy metric, it's fine. It's going to be so much fun. I can't wait. But but I I am just over the moon about this next conversation. Kobe Bryant recently launched mambas force academy. It is amazing facility Tracy, and I were there. It's a hundred thousand square feet multi sport training facility in LA for young athletes. We went to go check it out, Tracy and Kobe. They got a little bit of a history there. So we talked about everything from why MBA players have the right to make trade demands to why Kobe's Tracy McGrady was the hardest player he ever had to defend and g I I don't know if these two should still be playing. We'll just say. Mcgrady? The Grady rouges Gobi Bryant wild when you first met when you guys I got to know each other as teenagers. Did you recognize right away? You're kind of kindred spirits and approached the game. But he was he was freakishly more athletic and taller than ours in I had to work because I was a little bit more reserved and never been around somebody worked as hard as he did. And I learned that from him I had athleticism, but the work ethic part I had to get from being around him over you when you guys met. Eighteen nineteen right. Because you're a year ahead. This is when I knew okay, he likes to play mind games. He always trying to get edge on whoever opponents, whatever I don't care if I'm his friend, whatever. So I told him I said about the go workout, and he was like what are you going to work out for you off season like they will need to work out. And I'm looking at him. So go back to my room change, easy to for a minute. I go to the weight room. This do. And I'm looking. What? So I had to take this do right here. So he's always going to have an edge of a hard time understanding with sarcasm. Cash taking. But I did I remember we went to Disneyland and somebody was afraid of rollercoaster. I was gonna ask about that roller coaster. It wasn't that. I was afraid at least that we just had lunch. This match on the drag me on a roller coaster. Sounds like. Let's. Would you see after him doing after rooster? Dale. I was so mad, and he was he was he was not the same resin. When talk to me, he was so pissed I was gonna wait till later. I'm gonna get to it now. So you have told a story to you on a trip to Germany where y'all played one on one supposedly him. And according to you you want. Supposed smoke. We're not we didn't play one on. What I did you go to? Wasn't keeping score. What we were doing keeping score. What we were we working on footwork on the police we will working out individually, and then we working on stuff on the post keep score plan. If somebody's playing a workout and if the person's scores keep the ball. What is that? We wasn't keeping score. Have you ever been with him where he wasn't keeping score the question? Let's be honest best the question, No him has he ever? I mean, please. Here's a Cup of coffee and keep score keeping score. I was keeping score eleven to three. Three. I know about it. I remember I can't believe the guy that doesn't even know the location where we were playing. But then. But then. Forget for twenty years. Cursory one country may be off. Now, I may forget a lot of things you forgot where we them not gonna forget the school. It's okay. All right, man. You got a off day. Germany pairs leading all notes to the best of me. Didn't happen to me that day. I'll tell you that much. See you guys brought different things to it when you were teenagers and working out together and doing all that he was, you know, straight out of high school so high profile how did you end up at his house? Like, you know, he's been there. You know in those those shoes, and I felt like what better person to learn from? This is all new to me, then somebody that's already been through it. And you know, we became we hit it off status house watching karate flicks. Yeah. That's where we together with spy. Our scared hill rented, some might Tyson. Everybody told me what they said is Tracy potentials off choice. Potentials off the charts. In for me was a time where? A lot of flack for being a young player coming league. And I'm looking at another player coming out of highest move. I'm like, okay, we need to make noise. We need to show old guys that we can come out of high school and do some serious damage older guard. They're not so excited about having these young kids from highs come together first year, I called him like every week or it was a lot that I talked to him on the phone because I was going through it. And I know he went through his rookie season. So I had somebody to lean on like y'all man, you know, you come out of high school, you may get notice shots, and Dan you come to NBA team and your play one game probably twenty minutes, and you don't see the floor for five it was inconsistent. And I was being very, and I was like it was it was doing something my confidence. Right. So I had to lean on him at that time and we talk relentlessly Bob response. I went I went to villainous room was just like, okay. Well. Very on his bench. Everybody's gonna pay for this. I'm gonna show everyone that I was deserving of this plan time as a rookie in as sophomore season. But I use it as motivations some form of vengeance. They'll Harris still to this day. I mean, we joke about it a lot because you really didn't play much. And I remember that game when he came to LA with the Dallas Mavericks, and he will head coach of that game. Oh, yeah. He's for that. I remember telling them that was in nineteen ninety seven man. Doesn't matter. Tracy has said to me that as he served come up more in the league. And that you guys became more rivals on the court. He says that's when you stop hanging out as much now because you didn't like each other. But just back then it was like, hey, if you were going at each other for real you didn't socialize enjoy the show. We'll take the microphone last. Good. Well, let me tell you tell your story. So I mean, he went to Orlando. And we were trying to win our championships and allay so absolutely bury myself more so in the craft and literally cut everybody out my life just focused on that. But I remember in a playoffs. You guys are playing the Milwaukee Bucks and one year and me and Vanessa went out to lunch and went to a restaurant, and they had TV's restaurant. I remember sitting there watching. I mean, you just just cooking. I mean, just like they call the puppy dog wasn't. I remember sitting in a restaurant Washington and Tel Aviv man that the real deal. He's made it when we started out like as young as together. But I remember filling such joy because of what he was doing. So even never actually told him that there's a sense of pride. That's his has. I'm going. That's the. So we we've got a whole other part of this coming up right after the break. Stick around. You're gonna hear them talk about how much they regret not maneuvering to play to gather. By the way. Here's the recommend sports day head over to you you can participate in our interactive all-star draft. This is really cool. You can feel Braun or Jaanus and see how your team stacks up. I did this. Five four. This combo is so people. There on Kevin Godley tonight on sports how John walls new injury could shake up the NBA trade market inside the Lakers coward panic to acquire Anthony Davis. How raiders could control the NFL drip and Dickie v live on Duke and Zion sixties permit for PTI. There were some games. We were looking back over the numbers and stuff. There is a game two thousand two thousand three season was insane. Between the two of you made me fall. You should be some we should be so bad. But still you embarrassed Mosey. Got Tepa slim. What was it like going against each other? Because I knew I was going to get his best. There was no backing down. Like, I knew I had to come and play against his do every single possession. Then it brought the best out of me because you know, you play so many guys some nights, you know, you could draw forty and you don't really have to go on with him. You sleep on more. Get embarrassed. I mean, I I love I rarely stores opportunities. I remember yet. Coach coach wall down our Landau. And I came out early to say hi to Tyler. I think it was telling me max ready for you max max ready for the game. I remember reading about you having some tightness in your bag. Yeah. Houses back. Also, he's ready for USA. He's gonna be fine. When I hit him in. Check check back. I had like twenty one in the first half. Sward is do I think I. Came up got a rebound. And when I went down he jumped up behind me. And I swear I got it. I swear. Contusion our now, I had a computer. Joe he did that because I was cooking in the first half, right? Of copies know, that's gonna happen. Just wanted to test. The back house. Healthy. But I don't I can't speak for him. I was watching him from when I was in Orlando, especially two to three seat when I led the league score and its do wrong off like nine straight, forty points. I was like oh hail. I can't let him come get inside. I might not win the championship this year. But I'm damn sure getting scoring title. Always wish if I player to play with this guy because he lets he could do everything I could do it. But he was talking. Kids about that. That's what I tell them. The ask about the hardest player. I ever had the fan. It's pretty easy tracing because he could do everything do. But again, all of that stuff came from him, no training together as young pups and sin how he worked and then watching him as eat became this. You know? One of the greatest players have played a game, the footwork, right? How you posted gains. I took a couple of his moves, and I'm gonna sit here and said, he don't have to know he took couple one one move in particular. I see it all the time when he was planning. Okay. We only two guys that do that. Right. All right. So let's take this to present day because since the NBA ABA merger. There are only three humans on earth who have had these crazy scoring streaks thirty points or more over and over and over again, you had fourteen games in a row you had sixteen games in a row. And James harden, of course, crazy streak the season. What do you think of what he's doing right now? I'm not a fan of in terms of winning championships styles. Everyone win championships. But at the same time you have to keep your team's head above water to win games. You have to do jeopardy the wings. And he's doing right now. I think. So are you saying you don't think James harden rockets as constructed can win a title style of play won't win right with one player dominating the ball. Now, you have Chris Ball come back, and you have more more moving to the office where you move guys around where you're harder to find. Now, let's take one player. You put them at the top of the key where you put him on the wing run at screen roles. You're always in front of the defence the defence can key on tickly into playoffs. That's easy. Now what he's doing is. Absolutely remarkable though. And I think. A testament to how remarkable it is. Because people are now trying to minimize what it is that he's doing image doing phenomenal stuff. I could ask you Anthony Davis even on the radio once said you wanted to be traded from LA, what do you think of a AD warning out of New Orleans? Got a right to do with the hell he wants to do. I mean, I listen teams have the right to trade players signed players, do whatever they want. They can speak their piece, do whatever they want player shall free to be able to say, in voice their opinion. I mean at some point, you know, you spend six or seven years, and you feel like you're not competing for championship. At some point. You're going to want to get the hell out of there. And and our organization that is serious about winning I dealt with that. Right. I dealt with that in Orlando. You wanna win you see, you know, you contemporary win a championship you see your friends winning championships. And that's the ultimate goal. All right. So Mr. Laker aggressive should this year's this season's this week's Los Angeles, Lakers be-. No. Basketball players make him. The guy was batching Johnson running his John. You want your team to make a big push for AD held. Maybe it depends on what you're trying to come in which a long-term jackets now Massana LeBron Yar you make an indication that you want to win them. Right. So I think it'd be a smart thing to do for the Lakers to look at them. But the same time to to to play a little bit of poker. I ask you about LeBron. I don't think it's a coincidence that he had the worst stretch of games out. The worst injury of his career went after he turned thirty four you snap. Your achilles at age thirty four. What do you think? Lebron's time line is and the pressure that puts on the Lakers in terms of their overall. Just depends how he adapts his game. Some point you have to be ball. So the speed and the power that is used to plan with has the chain which he can because now yeahs guy giving sides to be able to adapt and go to below the free throw us more power. Magic did a lot of magic at six nine went down to the post a lot attracted double teams down to make plays from there. And he's he's more than capable of doing that. And playing for a long long time Michael Jordan play when he was forty Kareem Abdul Jabbar play when he was forty Vince Carter is out there playing when he's forty two. Guys think maybe I could still go back and do it. One pickup game hurting. I tried. I tried at the house Monday. I was playing. Hurt. No, I I know if I wanted to could I don't want to. Sure, I'm sure. If I wanted to could you know, you diet, you gotta really really obsessive about it. You can do it with the technology nutrition. Studies all that you have. Now could certainly do it. I just don't want to. I mean visits out there women, man. It's like he ended up don't conscious man come on on on that were her seriously. Maybe forty two year old cat Chiro neutron. Here's a kill a hold on. This guy was doing stuff back into their kids. Still can't do to this day. Forty two. He wasn't gonna do it. Should you should have you seen don't count? You know what I thought about? 'cause I know he participated in. What was it ninety seven? And we had the lockout what the next year. You you invent you think you would have got a new, no. Why I enter? Zac answer is like why gonna have this Carter beat me? It's not going to have these two guys. Now that you're sitting here forty years old thirty nine years old you look back on all of this. Is there anything you tell these guys before we go? This Dan age, we try to figure out a way to trade and play with each other. Real. We should have been talking about that that age right there. Now, how can we get on the same team that would have been for? First of all it just made me so happy to sit there and talk to you guys. And I remember so many those moments. I was very young reporter while you guys were young coming up in the league and socal the revisit all of that. And he thinks things should be in the contest, and I did not prompt him, by the way, he brought that up all on his own. Thank you very much. I thought drafting was dead. Kobe Bryant just provided cue-card behind. Kobe raw for that benefited hisself out his yes. But that was great right to be able to relive that. We will talk in the next segment about some of Kobe thoughts on James harden, James response to Kobe thoughts on James harden way for it. We've also had a little bit more NPR news. Because of course, we do its trade week. Here's another district way. Though. This is this date in two thousand six. Glutton's speedy. Oh. Basketball. Hanging out with Bob low. We're here in a few minutes to discuss whether the pelicans and being greedy those Aaron Rodgers have trust issue. The return lavar ball and dissecting story time with Kobe Bryant, and our friend, Tracy McGrady state job right now. Stick around to you, Matt Mack. He Wayne back. Tracey this week's NBA Saturday, primetime games. Each of the players worse is good. Named are good. Hard in Huston. So good NBA countdown. Eight o'clock eastern on ABC watch that show verse. All right. It's crunch time on the job. So Chris porzingus confirming yesterday that the plan indeed remains for him to sit out this season. Do you think that's the right call remember member? He tore that ACL Betty or go to recovers nine to twelve months. This is really excessive, but it actually favors him more than it does the team he wouldn't wanna come back with rusty and then jeopardize however, much money gonna make him free agency. No playoff run to work on your skills. Get better he ready for twenty nine hundred and he'll still get to like workout with Lucas that chemistry bills. And he just said I loved him his press conference USA yesterday too excited. He was to be around Dirk for the rest of the season. That was his I growing up pretty cool. All right. Thank you. Mr Chris Bosh, the Miami Heat announcing they will indeed retire Chris's number one in March. This is so well deserved in seaman. I do not understand people who question. This guy's hall of fame. Prudential's? This is a no brainer. Right no-brainer. He'll join you in the hall of fame. When you look at what he did as an individual and in Toronto. And then as the player. And by the way, international play too. All even if you never put the two years. And the first step. Congrats Chris Bosh injury in the whole family team Jaanus Koumba. To the Colombo says he is planning to pick Steph curry this first pick if the former MVP is still on the board at the all-star shar draft. Now, this is predicated on him saying he thinks LeBron is gonna take Kevin Durant fraud. So do you think he feels bad because he dunked on Steph pretty hard? Three. What do you have for me here? I wanna see LeBron Steph on the same team. Never never played. I don't think I've ever played in. Recruiting rates with point. The trade deadline will have already passed there isn't really need to recruit AD at that point. If they still in the pelicans. So really you really look into that two thousand nineteen free agent class. Kevin durant? Maybe I don't know Clayton. Right. Quite good one. Welcome back to jump earlier in our show. Kobe. Bryant said these style of basketball James harden is playing isn't going to win a title. Here's James harden said in response. He's probably right. This way clan. Won't have an NFL won't get us where we wanna go. But we haven't had a full roster yet. So. I'm excited for that to come. I again things taken a little bit. You headline goes never looks at the headline Tracy U N Koby were both saying, hey, it's the style of play. He has to play right now. But that going toward the playoff. You didn't think he was gonna win? You saw that life there. What what what what on that chart thousand dribbles? This stays. This season. Anybody else is back, by the way. Komo's speak out on you know, those guys being out James having to carry that Lowell Weddell geyser out. I mean, yes to do what you gotta do. Right. However, he's gonna have to defer to Chris Paul to really beginning that now. No. Because Chris Paul has only played a few games being back. He don't want that load on Chris Paul and potential, you know, have been injured. So he's going to need those guys in the playoffs. I it can't be dribble dribble. Step back three and thinking they're going to win a championship with James doing what he's doing is. Great to see what he's doing right now. But for championship run. No. He's going to have to defer. Yeah. Shut out. The Ashley never who asked. That question. James harden, last nine Phoenix. Yeah. No. I don't think Kobe Saturday. As the understand in this kind of what we've been saying all along as he's not doing this. Because he's a worse is how I like to play basketball. He's doing it because that's what's necessary for survival. And you can't say we can't win in the playoffs. Like that. If you don't make the playoffs in the first place. We'll have to see how many miles. He's guy on him. When he gets to the playoffs. That's a whole other situation. Lebron cleared to play tonight against the Pacers. This is the Lakers final game before the trade deadline. He spoke to the media earlier today, he was asked his teammates should feel about being named in these trade talks. Take a listen. Right now. This is what we have. And this is Mark group in this group. I'm trying to lead down win ballgames and all of ever done always have had teammates every year. It'd be a part of trade dayline discussions and things of that nature. And we've always figured out a way to shield that way and just play the game. So guys happened to get traded. And we notice the business side of pace definitely hurts to lose. Teammates, you know, especially at this point in the season. But it's business. It doesn't mean that. You're you're fired. You don't have a job and the nets you still have a job, and you still haven't quite again to less. If you guys were LeBron's teammate. How'd you? Kind of deals. You got on the table. Options right here. Now, Lonzo so hard on gotta go Ingram battle. I come on. We gotta get AD Tudo, whatever you'd have. Oh. King James he looked like king King, James. He looked like king Tut in that clip for. Business. Our trade if I'm those guys I look at it look me, and I'll treat me for Anthony Davis to know what I'm saying you have to look at it like that so play ball until you get traded just go do what you do control melamine Mesa's come here the tweet during the Super Bowl. In the words of the greatly. Great Rigg games is cold. I mean, if you're the young Lakers hasn't their whole career in the setup for this. I dunno. And look the way things have been going in for though, probably still be mad team on Thursday night against the Celtics. All right just over a week ago. The news broke that Anthony Davis had asked for trade. According to Chris Haines, pelicans management blocked AD from playing in last night's game won't reporting now that the pelicans are listing Davis questionable for tomorrow against the bulls. We've been talking all week it makes sense for the pelicans to sit Aideed the rest of the year if they are going to try to trade him in the summer. I just keep thinking gosh, the NBA can't be thrilled with the idea that a healthy top ten player would just missed the last few months of the season of all this. I'm not saying the penitents we've been wrong. Sri by all star week trained allow him to play the season out. Too nervous. I'm risk averse. There you go.

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Butler's revenge

"Blad night. Klay Thompson Duncan the ball four times against the nuggets. And thoroughly enjoyed each and every one of them. Doc the ball. He's a shooter fourteen though right fourteen threes. About these dunk games than he was about three points. It was useful now side beautiful first quarter last night. The first quarter last night that right there if these guys and keep that pace, nobody is touching it. They don't even look vulnerable. He's funny. He should mention that welcome to the junk. I am racial Nichols. Alongside my day ones. Brian win horse the hall of Famer, Tracy McGrady. Racy noticed. Tracy's dress today, which is nice for everybody coming up as Tracy. Just noted just went zone. MBA teams are buckling down for this Fannings. Should we expect the warriors to be on cruise control for the rest of the season? We will discuss but first blowout happened in the w in the NBA and sure they happened all over the place last night. Sometimes they are like sometimes they're like the phasers win over the Suns one one team has just clearly better. Sometimes they're like the warriors clubbing of the nuggets. Which was basically Golden State reminding everyone that yes, it's adorable isn't it when we see a franchise with a promising young court turned into a contender? But by the way, there's only one team in this league who's brought her might be the most exceptional ever assembled. And it's the team that last night dropped fifty one points on Denver in the first quarter. Like like one of those giant envy's falling from the sky in the runner cartoons. And then well, we also have the beat down the Sixers. Late on the wolves last night. A forty two point win that felt so extremely personal. It was almost uncomfortable. Well know the history here not just the Jimmy Butler was playing against his old team. But at some of the reasons he wanted to trade in the first place where his frustrations with Minnesota's young stars that since he left Karl Anthony towns has been playing terrific basketball. And Andrew Wiggins dropped forty piece that the wolves fired the coach that brought me to Minnesota in the first place that not everything has been sleuth for the Sixers since Butler arrived in Philadelphia. Basically, this was the wolves moment, right? They could show Butler. They were better off without him that perhaps he was the problem not them. Instead, the wolves came out flat and only got flatter. Joel Embiid here to take particular pleasure in showing towns who was minus forty two last night with just thirteen. Help make sure Wiggins was also basically non factor, you would think with so much on the line. The walls would have been at least hungry on the boards. But the Sixers out rebounded them fifty four to thirty four and blocks eleven of Minnesota shots off the also had more than twice as many second chance points and the bullying didn't even end at the final buzzer. Here's Jimmy posted afterward g quote, looking right through the past to the future by gosh. That's Wiggins all Lori and edulis Jack in the foreground there. And then here's NPR's post. It was an honor. He says to be part of the third stringers and get a win against real MBA starters. That is of course that infamous preseason practice scrimmage Jimmy charged in the franchise on fire. It was a cutting troll. Although perhaps that is cutting what the wolves themselves. We're saying post game. Here was Jeff teak quote that wasn't no normal game them do was at our heads. Jimmy wanted to beat us. We all know that. Joel Embiid wanted to be cat. That was a game. We had all marked. And they don't us. Here was towns, quote, we didn't compete no edge. So that's mostly how you get your ass kicked in the NBA. And that is what we did as we saw last night. There are actually a lot of ways to get your butt kicked. But also Catt is correct here. This is one of the most embarrassing so Tracy is Jimmy vindicated now after blowing out his own team in public. Listen kid, but I I will like for this game. If this had been in Minnesota, it would have been a story. It was in Philly. What I think the bigger picture here in the story is about Minnesota. This is not about Jimmy this is about Minnesota. And why you guys get the rap that they and I'm talking about towns, and I'm talking about with this what Jimmy Butler was talking about. Because when there is competition that is fine. And when there's a challenge on the line these guys don't come up in a septa challenge. Like, yes, everybody was looking at this gate and was going to see how Jimmy Butler was going to play against these guys. And they were going to look over on the other side, and how Andrew Wiggins and towns going to compete, and they laid Nick you gotta come out, and you got to compete at your highest level you've been doing well the last the past couple of weeks. But when a game really matters not talking about you're not gonna win no championship like that. But these type of games. Really matter the test who you are as a player as a man and y'all accept that challenge. And that's this Harding one hundred forty nine points. Wow. This game reminded me a little bit of Rachel was back in Miami. The night that the heat affectively killed insanity where they just came in and assist from Carmelo Anthony. But sure. They just went for Jeremy Lin's like one team was playing a completely different levels different intensive than the other team. That's what we had here. We had this game mattered more to one team. And no matter what you think about this the Sixers, and what they've been off the Jimmy Butler trade I thought it was a really good sign that they played for him. Yesterday may new is a big game to him. Right. It wasn't a good representation of the wolves. But regardless what the final score was I appreciated that the Sixers were like, we got our guys back. We know this game as important him. We're going to come out and show remember martime when it was just a bad break up with with Orlando, man. I remember Fabrica my first time going back in my my teammates with the rockets new when we go back to Orlando. They know how bad I want this. And one of my team came to me, he was like you won't this. I was like man bad as hell don't worry about it. We got your back in and they support me we went out and won that game. I play phenomenal. What man here? This. This is this is Blake Griffin over the weekend. You know, coming in here L A and putting up forty traffic yet you can tell in the regular season, especially when it means more ends up with the Sixers. You can always tell on social media too. Because you gotta run back trial v tweet. It was an honor to be part of the third stringers and get a win against real NBA starters. I mean, look there's been growing pains with the Sixers group together, they still are one of the only teams have three elite top level players in the NBA. So do you think that this point they've brought them closer together? Because you you saw him beat and Jimmy both kind of put up on the same page. I really don't go by you know, hearsay of what you know. People writing about about these guys, I'm sure they get along. Well, they just they haven't some chemistry issues trying to figure it out. I can't see Jimmy Butler going from one place where things are just so bad. In a lot of negativity coming out about him. Then. Going to this. You know, talented team with these two guys that extremely talented joining forces with them and things are going south, and there's some rumblings. I just can't see that. I just think there's some chemistry issues that they all have to work out. And they're going to be tough. If they could figure it out. I love that Embi tweet because it was multi level because not only does it get to dig in that you guys aren't even third-string not only doesn't have the callback to the to the Jimmy practice. But it's also like it was an honor right star chasm spice to it of the Sixers have a brutal schedule coming up. One of the toughest you'll see and they are in fourth place right now, they are not in the greatest position they need something to fire them through the schedule were they play streak where they play twelve consecutive games against teams in playoff contention like ten of Ron national TV. You're gonna have Charles out there evaluating them every half. So if this is a catalyst win for them. And it's a catalyst tweet it could end up being a big. Moment, if it's just a one night one offer, then you know, we'll know more about them. I mean, I've been saying for weeks. I think if Elton brand can do a little bit more to fix the roster. Just some of the things where where you know, you've got that uncomfortable rubbing together, the idea that sort of the spacing isn't right? The guys are clogging each other up if that stuff can spread out for them all of a sudden the wage plays the way joylin plays all the things that are sort of little things that we get on each other nerves. You have a get a bigger living room. No one's on each other's nerves anymore. They signed Corey brewer to attend day. And part of the reason there was to as you say, Tracy, get better chemistry sort of get a locker room presence guy who everybody loves in the NBA is a good, dude. And just gave everyone a little bit more space with each other bigger than that. I mean, we'd been harping on. This seem even before the Jimmy Butler trait that they need shooting even getting Jimmy Butler. They lost sorta guys that space the floor neck shoot now. Yes, they have JJ Radic and the the young kid that they're playing now would great job. But I think they still need to act shoot him. Because if Ben Simmons Ben Simmons is not going to shoot the ball. He's not going to spread the floor as everything is going to be clogged joylin b doesn't want to shoot threes. He wants to be on a on a block in and make things happen. So they have to find some more shoot to me. That's what's going to sort of fix her chemistry issues. This one galvanizing win or the tweets or anything. I think again, it just comes down to who who they have to see if they can get to that. I do wanna say though, that Tracy. Scotty Pippen yesterday, both pick the nuggets going into last night's first place. Which like like you want against the grain? But the defending champs head of the plans. You said the top of the show, do you think they're just going to cruise through the rest of the season here if they do that. That nobody's going to beat them. I ever. Cruising through. I think Houston would have something say about that. And I'm sure Denver gun. They learned that lesson because it was no competition at all last night. But would boogie coming back? It's going to be interesting to see how they really involve him on offense event. I mean, he's a guy that needs the ball. Right. And these guys they play so well without the ball is he going to be one of those guys day initiates offense. It runs through him. He comes up Acilitator. But it's I don't think they're going to run through until they figure out how to utilize boogie. Well, two things we've seen them that they kinda run hot and cold even their colds pretty kid. They kinda run hot and cold with focus right now. They're on a hot streak. I mean, they these last five six games they've been full strength. Also Steph awesome Claes broken out of the slump. I mean few weeks ago when they lost to the Lakers and got blown out clay was in the middle of this lump was like, oh my gosh. They are not as bad as that team on Chris. Day. They are not as good as we're last night. But because of the DaMarcus arrival even everything goes swimmingly, it's going to throw them off their rhythm, which they knew when they signed him in July that when he came back. It was gonna throw them off the rhythm. It's actually not coming at the best time, it'd be more ideal. If they were struggling and you brought him in now, this potentially will mean not cruise control because first of all I think they are as good as they I think that that is how good they are. They just don't show it to you all the time, but they treat percents shooting. I think it's a good time to bring boogie and we'll talk about a little bit later in the show. But you know, when things are tense you wanted to bring him in during what Kevin Durant during. You don't want to bring somebody things are tense. You wanna bring again when there's room in the living room when their space when everyone's happy and having a good time. That's when you wanna bring someone in and they're having a good time right now Kyle Kuzma or someone with access to his Twitter account posted a tweet last night during halftime of his game against the bulls. We'll have to talk about this because this is against the rules. It was just an honest mistake though, stay with us oh replay nineteen ninety eight featuring Michael Jordan. You know, you want to see that. You know, you want to see that. Now start looking into the bucket. Michael. Whereas slot who work. Donna baseline spin off the glass, and he's got twenty five just blew up of reform that blow for probably got. That move right there. Yeah. Is brought to you by Miller lite. Great taste and only ninety six calorie. This big mislead. Mislead miss. It's a maker mislead. Talking about. Make anchors. TJ McConnell hitting the jumper during a thirty point blow out, and then slaps former six dollars on the back side because you know, if someone had good games you an opponent during thirty point. I got along with it was fine. But I remember when I was played in China and guy Steph, oh, very like twenty thirty on the finger in my face. And I didn't appreciate that. At all. You played some pro baseball, Tracy and baseball, this is considered part of regular. Ponant? It's like that kind of like stunning somewhat. I don't know miss looking. Mccall doesn't some people. Well, that may be true. All right. So sorry. The Pacers going crazy here. The nifty Nola to pad young on the break, and then Janas going cross-court. No look to Bledsoe, Brian. Can you great? Keep it on your scouting hat. You know, sticks at the Pacers such a great game last night. I don't wanna I'm just going to give the nods of the Pacers because we don't pay attention to the Pacers. And they had. At the top of the show wasn't talking about new two week. Both of them are awesome. And the triple double for Yossi that play. And hey, you say Casey impressment either. Maxima walkie Assan Whiteside. Well, yeah. For the free throw watch Brooke Lopez though, oh. No, he's trolling brick. Hi, Sophia mine. The outward is really the. I mean, this is. Else doing this without a line with that one? Answer. Go sit down on the bed having ice. Oh camera on Brooklyn, Robin at all times as a better place with the Lopez twins in it, miss happiness, man. I was in the building last night. Lakers fans were upset, you know, they get free tacos if they win and hold opponent under a hundred closing seconds bowls of ninety eight were fully aware and ended up getting vows on the three. And we're not having listen to this. Listen to the fans here. The crowd was augured. Well, let me point here. Watch the whole game. Let me just point something that gentleman was sitting in a three thousand dollar front row courtside seats love free stuff. Stuff more than rich people, by the way. See we wouldn't know Tracy knows. There you go. By the way that is. That's my favorite. Why does your boy? Hey for tacos amazed. The bulls were. A little bit last night. I have to agree with that guy. They things fans we want taco rate. It was it was all over the place. Let's head back to the staple center, though. Because Kyle Kuzma made a bit of the splash night last night on the court scoring sixteen points to go along with twelve rebounds in the Lakers one seven hundred win over the bulls. But also off the court because at halftime Lakers were up forty four to forty three coups Ma or I guess I'm going to access to account tweeted at ball is life. So do you think this was a DM gone wrong? Do think this was someone else tweeting if your teammate you care about this. It is against the rules. But I don't care about. Slapped on the wrist with a little fine. And we move on. It's not a big deal. You know, everybody else in the arena looks at their phone during halftime. So why why shouldn't the players you want their players off their phones kind of from warm-ups through the end of the game. They discourage their teams that have rules that even the players have made rules for themselves. They're not supposed to be on their phones. Certain times in a locker who's monitoring the coaches. I there you. I'm gonna I'm gonna have his back here because balls life is a Twitter account that shows NBA highlights eight AKU was just watching some film and half. That's what you wanted to have is to watch recall though back. There is no highlights in that first half. That was awful game. Charlie way, tweeting at halftime. This was the tweet that reverberated around the NBA back in two thousand nine and because of this tweet, which is so benign, right? David Stern at the time. Passed a rule saying? Minutes before tip off players cannot tweet up until the end so long ago was he called it a twit right? He's giving you a little insight and their locker room. Why not it was today? I wonder if that will become to I mean the rules there. Now, I wonder if it was hard hitting commentary. I gotta step it up. You know that if Joel Embiid could tweet in gold God. We might need to change the rules. Let's shift focus to LeBron yesterday his agent. Rich Paul told ESPN's David minimum that LeBron will miss at least the next two games as he continues to rehab his strained left groin. We also learn LeBron will not accompany the team on its road trip. These are big national TV games. The start of really high profile stretch for the Lakers Oklahoma City Houston than on Monday. They got a game against the warriors Lakers. Four and seven LeBron's absence fallen from fourth all the way to eighth. Conference. I love this. What reality did he Lakers to face right now? Brian. Oh, I'm so happy to be having conversation. Go ahead. I'm gonna sit my team you talking about that part of the reality is that LeBron is not really going to be back relieving the short term. I don't think he's gonna play Monday. Among the king day against the warriors. They've got a four game homestand coming up. I think maybe sometime in that home stand. But they are team where they have a very large what I call cone of uncertainty. Typically, you have an idea of what a team ceiling and floor is this team could end up in the six seed and pull off a first-round upset or they could end up tents, and you look at the schedule. They gotta make sure LeBron is hell to says tracing after this homestand which. Okay, Minnesota Phoenix. Those are winnable games. Look at that. From that seventy Sixers game on January twenty ninth onward all the way up until February. But by the way, added -lanta is no gimme as you saw last night. That is brutal. And you have to have LeBron control. In that back half, or they will wake up at Valentine's Day and be in eleventh place. And so and they and we also saw them on Christmas day blow the warriors out on their home court. And that team is still in there somewhere that team could resurface. I'm not saying I'm betting on. I'm just saying it could it could be anywhere in that cone of uncertainty. And that's what makes such a fascinating thing. We're going to be able to an actual. Listen having LeBron James on our team. We knew it was gonna make the playoffs. I didn't expect these guys to when he was healthy to be in position that they were in my expectations this. Yeah. These guys probably be seven eight C a Macon win a first round who knows. But after seeing them play with LeBron and these guys actually thought they could have made it to the Western Conference finals that's before I saw to hone of uncertainty that yes, that's saw the Houston Rockets made a turnaround cone. This. State Warriors just they finally decided to come to play, but they're more vulnerable than we have ever seen in title run. If they get a great seed in the playoffs not having a face those teams, they can beat anybody. I think they can beat Denver. I phoned the place, but I wanna call that first quarter of the season fool's gold. Because it certainly was not. And we saw the Lakers as you said Tracy clicking on levels. We didn't expect that early. Lebron said he didn't expect them to be clicking in that way that early. But look anytime you are LeBron James team. The schedule is a little bit rigged. And not in the way that people who are Lakers haters, LeBron haters would expect it's the other way around the beginning of the schedule for LeBron team is always pretty soft because the way television networks pick their schedules is they get to have input with the league on what teams they want on. What days it is better for TV networks ABC ESPN TNT to have LeBron teams after football season's over those big national TV games the thunder against the warriors against the rockets. So all the toughest this games are going to come in the second half of the season. The Lakers had be second. Toughest schedule from here on out. So even when LeBron does come back, it will be a different level of competition than it was in that first quarter. We're being real if you take LeBron and Rondo off this team. They are the team that they were last year which was a non playoff team without Julius Randle and brook Lopez. So what you see now is a non playoff teams, we have take a quick time out. But coming up walls joins the jump to discuss some of those other teams, the rockets Tracy mansion, we'll break down which teams are vying which teams or selling, and what you need to know about potential trade deadline moves stick around the man with the answers after this. Hey there I'm Kevin tonight. On sports counting down wrap. Yourself has high-revving ridge to boiling point in Boston. The latest on Manny Machado free agency. The impact of Jalen hurts choosing Oklahoma and ram are Aaron Donald joins us. Sportscenter six eastern with Keith Olbermann at the PTI. Welcome back to the jump. We are thrilled to have our MBA senior insider Adrian words now USC joining us today. Welcome and comes out to LA. It must be because the trade deadline is getting close. I can feel it in the air Do to start the conversation with Houston though, because their situation is a little more dire than everyone else's on Monday. You broke the news that Clint cappella missing four to six weeks ligament damage in his right thumb at least four six weeks, by the way, we've seen these injuries linger longer. What moves or the rockets looking to make it his app? It's hard, you know, in football. You lose a player to position you can go sign a guy who's the league or coming off an injury and rehabbing it doesn't work that way in the NBA. There's no they're not gonna make a trade for a month. You know, they hopefully they can get cappella back coming out of the all star break. That's that's their whole there. But to give up long-term assets for what's essentially going to just be this move for a month is not typically how it goes in MBA. They've gotta get some. Play from their bench. And obviously, they'll be more asked of James harden, if it's possible to ask more of that the bull should not be waiting by the phone for that Robin Lopez call so they can work something out there. Financially, Robin Lopez contract fourteen million dollars. It makes it hard to move it around especially team like Houston who's in the luxury tax. You know, what what's what's what do they have Chicago back right now? Absolutely. And of course, they're g leaguer Daniel house turned down that the contract. He was planned to what happened there because he was starting for them. It's really an amazing story houses become a really important player for the rockets, but these two way contracts, you are limited in the number of days, you could be in the NBA roster. He exhausted them. And so either you have to agree to a new contract a regular contract or you've got to go back to the G league, the rockets and houses agent, Raymond brothers. And I talked with Raymond last night. They didn't want to the the rockets won a longer term commitment. So that they don't lose this player this summer. And they were willing to take minimum contract and become a free agent. The summer that's not what he was willing to do. So now he goes back to the G league. Now, the rockets could struggle they say, listen, we really need them. You know, they can change their stance and say, but they don't want to set a precedent. They don't want to set a precedent up we develop a player, and then we just lose them after the year. So it's a standoff right fascinating to me from a player's perfect factor. So is he goes back to the G league plays this season out is a restricted free Asian. What is what is it become after that say what he doesn't want to have the rockets to be able to on a minimum deal have his rights for for the next three years? And then, you know, I think there's confidence with what houses done this season that they can get a, you know, a regular NBA contract somewhere. Something above the minimum this summer, but it's negotiation. There may still be somewhere in the middle here. Would you delete burdening tactic because house those so well shoot shooter's at a premium of the rockets three year minimum which is four million dollars. But if you look at what shooters get on the market. I mean, I would say that at least half the mid level or more is in play for this guy next year, which would be more than four million dollars just for next year that the rockets would have to potentially met. So I completely understand. What would just correct in that both sides are taking out sort of far end negotiating positions. But if I'm Daniel house, I don't take that three year. Minimum deal ahead. So the four million's worth a few bus rides in the G league, Philly I wanna discuss the trade deadline. It's February Sam it's coming up. And we've been talking who are the buyers who are the sellers who are the fence who's on the fence leading up to the trade online. We're making a fancy board here at the jump taking some time. In the meantime, won't help me out. Because until I have my top board. I need you to help me grizzlies currently and second to last place out west are they buy. Here's your sellers or do do. They know what they are. They don't know what they want to be buyers. Memphis, a team that has not they have not wanted to go down that road of becoming sellers and looking at breaking up this core. They wanna continue with Mike. Conley Marcus all they added. You're Jackson who's been a revelation that share the top of the draft for them. But they're falling and they have struggled. They've had injuries collie Anderson's now out for a few weeks. They want they did the Justin holiday deal which ACOG to get them another wing. They gave up to second round picks in that that leaves them in a difficult position do much else. That's that's a player. They want to resign the summer, but they're buyers right now. But by the time, we get to February seven trade deadline. They may be so far out of it that they're going to have to be a team become actually because I think their core. I mean, I think the league's is passed him. There's no way they're going to catch up with where to league is right now with Marcus has their best player, what type of value? Do. He has on the market. I still think assault has value on the Mark. It. I think there's a trade you could make four him, especially if it's a team that was willing that wants to resign him going forward kind of knew what that was going to cost. But they've waited a long time to do this in the window of getting maximum value for him has passed. He has not been on the market. They've not been open to doing that. So I think it's difficult for Memphis right now to know what it would be and Marcus hall can be a free agent this summer. He's never really wanted to leave. He loves that place. He grew up there it listen. I don't know if he expects for them to be a championship contender again. But he wants to be part of the competitive team competing to be in the playoffs that they're not that at one x factor. They have Chandler Parsons, if they're willing to take on long term contracts, like maybe a say a deal with the heat where they could marginally improve short-term, they could potentially do Parsons, the, although that's difficult to pull off I need by the winning new category for my board because we're going to have buyers sellers on the fence, and then warriors who kind of float above everybody else. I wanna category of teams that think they're buyers, but maybe. Should be sellers. And this is where we get to the wizards because there in eleven. I this is my team growing up, and I want everyone to look in the mirror. I do love. What Bradley Beal is doing the fight that he is shown this is the everybody was as we know without John wall. But they don't have time for the rest of the season. And as we saw last year. Whoa, j- you can sort of get it together for a few games for awhile. But this is a better team with John wall on it. It's a worse team without him. Should they be buyers or sellers auto porter will be the interesting player between now in the trade deadline? You know, there's interest in him around the league, I think especially in the Western Conference. And is there a team that could offer the kind of package that would that would make Washington want to do that they have those three Mex contracts and financially? They're really strapped with having Puerta under the max deal, obviously, be a wall and supporters way to get out of sort of salary cap. Hell right now, and maybe create some flexibility will somebody offer enough to make you know, Washington, you know, turn turn their tension to do watching this. And I'm not saying that they can pull. It off Utah and Sacramento with both love to have auto porter problem is on a Porter's been great since he moved to a sixth man role and it's help with their turnaround. And they've already been buyers already bought Trevor REEs nearly two and a half out of the playoffs and the nature of this front office, which is in a little bit of danger going forward is not to sell making a hundred million dollars is coming off the bench and he's doing great. Wow. Ron here. You were born the bitch making the eight years. Finally, let's get to the next who are in thirteenth place out west. I mean, they should know which set of the poster, right? Yeah, they are still trying to create more cap space in New York for free agency, you know, and his canter they've talked. You know, it would if they can't they're gonna take back. Another expiring deal. You know, they talk with Sacramento about Zach Randolph Knicks willing to take on more money than they would have saved some money in that deal. So right now, it's the those talks have kind of gone by the wayside. What will be interesting to watch between now and the deadline is their team that would take Tim Hardaway juniors contract. Off of the Knicks hands. And I and I don't think there is without the Knicks including draft picks, which they've not wanted to do. But if the Knicks wanted to get into free agency to get to players, they have you know, they can get to one max contract. I don't know if they can get the two so they have too far to go. But but getting salary off. I think is a priority for right now keeping everybody that they have are they able to sign zingers and go after another big time free agent or they have to clear caps. Here's an inconvenient truth for the Knicks. They do not have the cap space right now to even get Kevin Durant. They have to offload Courtney Lee or Tim Hardaway now. Kevin Durant says I am coming could they make it happen? Yes. But as referred to if they have these big plans, they still need to make a move and the time to make a move is at the trade deadline, which is why they're trying to do something. I guess the lightning round year because we got a bunch of other teams to get in math buyers or sellers look at that lightning. That's light lettuce. Production. People buyers sellers mouth, I think somewhat on the fence because they you know, Brian mentioned much auto porter, jR, that's another team that could be some intrigue. Do they have enough to pull that kind of a deal off, but largely sellers Dennis Smith junior player who's really fallen out of favor there? He doesn't fit with Luca Donncha. She doesn't fit with Rick Carlisle his future is going to be elsewhere in. So that that's certainly a player who's been made available and and they're talking with several teams about them. All right hit me with more late name because thunder. Well, what he got? They got a trade exception of that. They've got a ten million dollar trade exception. But they also have a payroll that's really the highest in the league right now, they're deep into luxury tax, but they wanna go forth this year. And if there's some shooting out there, they can find gotta shore up their ability to shoot the ball if they can find that kind of a player move some money around. But right now. Ownership has really committed financially. Will they go even deeper to do it because this is an Oklahoma City team? That knows our window our chance to do it is now, and and they're trying everything they can to you know, to get find something to get passcode. Stay with more lightning director townie. Can we get what about the allegations? The pelicans are in desperation mode to try to get anything to help with Anthony Davis. They made an offer for Jimmy Butler didn't happen. They are out there in total buying mode. They are feeling the pressure every single day on Anthony Davis, Nicole miratec has been involved some traits each one more has been involved in some trade offers can they do something. I'm not the mystic what they are trying to Dell Dempster GM yesterday there chewing one since they've got Marich back. Alfred Peyton junior back. He'd like to have a window here to evaluate this team with healthy. See what they are before. He's got to make some decisions on traits. But halfway there up more late name because you're. About the magic your hometown guys. We're buying. Okay. We need athletic point guard and Dennis Mitchell. You will look good in magic uniform. He's very explosive young guy. I think he can find his way an imagine uniform. And you just haven't identify that position in quite some time. You heard the guys this is what you should all do teams out there what thanks so much. We appreciate it. You will be back. You guys. We'll be back with us after this break because we the warriors. Kevin durant? You heard Brian mentioned what if he goes to the Knicks? Well, Brian actually explored with the warriors plan B would be he wrote a great piece exploring options, we will discuss it next. But first here's another distant replay from this date. It is in nineteen ninety eight Kevin Garnett. Because it his Heidi can conc- one point seven here. Same droid killing bit. Against the bit. We have to play. Right. They set up one finishers. I mean, doesn't everybody get paid a bunch of money? ESPN is a bus for you. FC? Fangs it is home to exclusive live events, original content and a library of top UFC fights for only four ninety nine a month. Simply download is ESPN app and tap on the ESPN plus tab start your seven day free trial. The screening service is also available on your computer at ESPN dot com. And by the ESPN app on TV connected devices, get ESPN plus today by downloading the ESPN app or visiting ESPN dot com. Curry? Curry is done from the triple with Babe Ruth did for the whole month Ruth became one of the most iconic athletes American history by bashing more than anyone could imagine reshaping an entire sport in the process Curry's captured America's imagination reshaped. How we've you the power of the jump shot another display of long distance shooting. One reason he is so prolific is that his range extends further than anyone ever. Think about this Korea's made more than forty five percent of his threes between thirty and thirty five feet over the past four plus seasons. You're not supposed to be able to shoot from out there. Little hit over forty five percent of your shots. Of stuff MacAulay continues. No player in the history. NBA's combined range volume efficiency from downtown as well as over the course of the warriors dynasty. He's changed. The way the entire league looks at three points forty now shooting everything as curry showed us, the three point shot can be dominant shot the league's most dominant sports is to strives past half court said, yeah, planet earth, I would rain. He's one championships MVP's and a scoring title all by harnessing the power of three better than anyone we've ever see deaf. Curry is one mad, man. You made argue the LeBron James the best player of this decade in Kevin Durant. His it's great a score. But if the legacy of this decade is the three and curry is the definitive superstar of our time. Nice worth Kirk gold for an Steph curry and speaking of the warriors. Here's with jump recommends for today. Brian win horse has a column up on the ESPN app. Asking plan b for the warriors if Katie leaves so Brian. This give us the audio book of your. I think priority number one for the warriors and the K D, regardless is to make sure Klay Thompson is locked. And I know that Claire said he wants to be there and everybody thinks he's gonna say they cannot afford to mess around. If if they get Klay Thompson locked up and they have two hall of famers in their prime under long term contract with him. And Steph anything remains possible there number one has got to keep the splash brothers together. Then we get into prickly stuff gray mon- green is eligible for intention has one year left after this year. He has made it very clear he wants to be paid. In fact, maybe even overpaid because he feels like he's been underpaid somewhere in the warriors front office. Whether it's hidden behind a Google, doc, or whether it's in a white paper in a drawer. There have got to be Draymond green trades that they have can can look at if they cannot come to terms on an extension. Ideally, they wanna keep them they'd want to extend. But if they are far apart, and there are indications that they might be we might see a future without Kevin Durant. Draymond green a year from now. And I know this is a little bit sounds hot take. But this is a reality with dynasties. Remember the bulls in nineteen ninety eight they were looking at the breaking up in the future as as a along. We remember shacking Koby as they went for their fourth title in five years in the middle of a major break-up as season was going along. Yes, it's sunny here. But on the horizon there is storm and the warriors front office has to prepare for it. And that's what they're doing right now as a team is winning. It's as I say, tracing lit I understand that the idea that Kevin Durant might walk away from this dynasty is. So crazy that we've been talking about it and talking about it and talking about it all year. But now we've been talking about it so much. I think a lot of people just expect it to happen. And as you sit here, can you imagine as a player walking away from a team if they have just won their third title with you are in if I'm Kevin Durant because of all the fuss, and you know, all the gripe that I got for leaving. Okay. See going to join a seventy three. Win team MVP and a team that, you know, set the single sing isn't record for for wins. I people saying I have average by my my championships. So if I'm him, I mean, it it will mean more to me if I go somewhere else like LeBron went back to Cleveland won championships to equate the championships. He won in Miami. If I'm Kevin Durant. I'll seeking somewhere else to go and try to win a championship s we're solidified. My my legacy already. I have two championships to MVP's. That's what I would consider. I mean, it's certainly a possibility. So I understand why we talk about it. And you're right brain when he was general managers talk about I understand, you're I just think we've almost flipped to the other side of people saying, oh, that's was definitely going to happen. It's definitely a big deal if he left I don't know tomorrow on the jump. We will air my one on one interview with another warrior boogie cousins here is what he said about his potential return teaser for you, take a listen. We've all been waiting when do you think you are going to be able to be back on the floor? This week. It's a great feeling good lately. Of. Think it's time for me to you know, may return to the court. You know, my body's grand women now so links to make that. Bob, low in a few minutes talk about Jimmy Butler, embarrassing his former team Cam Newton missing entire season guy. Pippen's bolt advice resign Williamson and a man carrying a horse for itchy. Stay tuned. Our NBA Saturday games on ABC begin this weekend. Thunder. Sixers three thirty. And then our primetime game eight thirty eastern the Lakers. Take on James harden and rockets both games available on the ESPN app. So. Plan. NBA doubleheader tipped off tonight though in Boston. These are great games. Guys rafters Celtics, eight o'clock eastern, then oracle. Pelicans warriors. Coverage begins to NBA countdown. It's seven. SPN ain't been good good stuff night. You were right though. Tracy, the Celtics lost three straight eight of their last fifteen. But apparently they're too talented for their own good. In a recent interview with Yahoo sports. Vincent, good. Well, Terry Rozier has interesting things to say about the Celtics struggles this season and admitted there may be too much talent on the team's roster. Where's your said when he was asked quote to talented. We've all been I don't think we've all been on a team like this young guys who can play guys did things in their career the group that was together last year. Then you bring kyron Hayward back. It's a lot to talented. Yeah. To talented. So he's answering the question. I was like the point that out. We would like to answer the questions we ask them. So I don't want him to be penalized for that. But what do you think these guys last year had a lot of room for air? And they got minutes dig up the bulk of the minute stay were able to flourish knows minutes because they knew they were gonna play. Consistent minutes in a lot of minutes. Now, there's very little room for error with these guys, you know, you have to do more with less, and I don't think they quite figure that out because they have so many guys on their roster that can play and is just condensed with you know, their medicine. They haven't figured that out. I'm to invoke the great, Pat Riley, the disease of more is happening here. Trae Rosiere wants me either way, you know, kyri wants a bigger role. He wants to either, you know, Tatum once more guys one contract only, you know. Gordon Hayward is back. He wants more. Jaylen Brown had his role reduced. He wants more typically happens after a team has become happening early on the schedule. I mean, like again, I always keep saying about the Celtics. They should have a long runway to figure it out. Right. We expect them to play leased into may. So that seems them another five months to figure this out. I I don't know. I think they will look like a different team when they start the play. They do now. But we'll have to see Tracy McGrady, Brian. Whoa. Thank you all of them for joining me tonight. Despite the fact that Tracy McGrady basketball anymore excited about.

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The All-Star draft will be televised

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The All-Star draft will be televised

"Welcome to the Rachel Nichols. Along our cider insider, Brian win horse who time scoring champion, Tracy McGrady. We normally start with like an opening tip and some video. But today, we have some mazing breaking news. According to side from New York Times, we're not gonna harsh. There's my buzz here. The league decided to televise the NBA all star starting. You may remember last year was the first time the NBA used a playground style draft to create the all star teams. Now, the captain Stephane LeBron they did it confidentially on a phone call what you're seeing now is just later they joined EJ in the inside the NBA crew for recap. And at the time the league said they wanna make the draft order public for fear of them bearing players. Considerate instinct, but let's be real as you can hear my friend, Tracy McGrady say these are all star players making millions of dollars. They're good at if you want an example of just how this could work take a look at what the NHL has done in the past when Dave had a similar style format. They the draft in person, and they said ahead of time. Whoever was picked last would win a car as consolation. So you actually had players in the moment campaigning to be picked last, which was awesome. I I don't know. Do I? Like, this is something I've been thinking about maybe I don't know we mounted a whole campaign for this. I may have mentioned it once or twice on the show last season. We are begging you televise the draft. Right. We're lobbying being it's not too late. You should televise the draft. I'm just saying because they're not televising draft. You can change you can still change it and make this all-star draft public. Uh-huh. Actually already worked up a brand new campaign poster for this season. But the league and the PA have heard us it is going to be incredible. And the players seem to agree. Here's LeBron from this morning. Televising? Better dynamic bad. I guess the world. For the best in the world. Slow loud in the you've heard him say I did it last year. I'm glad I don't have to do it again. And I understand where LeBron got that. Last part from the NBA does have a rule that it coach cannot coach the all star game two years in a row. Even if his team is the best in the conference someone else gets another shot. But I spoke to the league office this morning. I have been told. No rule like that about players. So LeBron couldn't easy. But will he the two captains who get to draft are the two top vote getters from each conference? Take a look at how the voting went last year. Now, remember LeBron has of course, moved to the west. So look at the totals there. He's still would have beat Steph. If this had been last year, but with the way Steph is playing this year. Votes in the Western Conference is Janas the no brainer for the east. We'll have to see Tracy McGrady. How do you think is going to go? Two things that I'm not concerned about what really the drama. My dash g not wreck my day that I'm interested in seeing that is is LeBron Ghana represent the west and curry represent the west which one of these guys is going to be too high. Because both of them can't do it. Now. Conference and who's going to be the last guy pick? That's the only word about. I don't care who gets drafted. I I don't care I care about who's going to represent the west that's the drama and who's going to be the last guy feelings as a player would your feelings be hurt. If you're the last guy absolutely won't would it be. Would it be L Horford was the last guy lies? We talk about. We talked about in this league. Like the average salary is eight million dollars. The average Sally or these twenty four players. Really should that? You don't wanna be picked last? So, you know, if there was a year at the end of your career where you got it at the end, I wouldn't be. Here's the thing. What would knows picked? Anyway, say is this all got leaked at the end. It got bits and pieces, but it got leaked last year. Anyway might as well do it in front of everyone. Maybe throw it automobile in there or something like that. And then it'll be fine. But how do you think the west and east are going to go? Because again once those two captains are picked. They can draft from either conference. There's a pool of twenty four all stars picked those do go by conference because the guys who own the teams wanna make sure that there's equal size represented. So they can say we have an all star. But once that pool is pick the guys can draft from anywhere, but the captains are east and west. Viewers is that these guys are not picking the twenty the twenty four. These guys are not to players. So the the starters are being selected as normal the first five a day. The reserves are picked by the coaches. To a pool. Captain's pick in this fool. What we just wanna see is the actual moment where LeBron has to decide about whether he's gonna pick certain guys. I guess we'll be Kevin love this year because he's not gonna make the all star team. But I kind of would love to see Kawai. I know it's probably not going to happen. Vote getter? How uncomfortable would collide v? I would hate it. Kevin durant? Made it clear last year that it's it's not his preference to get up there and be the catcher and a half to pick is. I think you heard LeBron allude to that when he said certain guys, I just heard him speak a few minutes ago certain personalities are better, you know, for this forum than others, which is natural. Steph were perfect for it. Let me tell you who we shall be rooting for these. Joel embiid. Oh my gosh. Because no just be the league. Could be the vocab. Either way on every single an interesting element. Now that everybody knows that whoever gets the most votes in the east is the captain and is going to draft. Does that mean that now Joel Embiid will pick up some votes because America, I would highly recommend? The NBA now. So they allow this to distract to be televised in the draft is more of a playground tight draft pick up game. So now, I suggest that you do the draft right before the game. How awesome would that be having twenty four players out there to two captains and you pick you guys before you play the game. But what about the practices, Tracy were you doin' chemists? I mean, you saw the NHL one. And that was obviously done on the beginning of all, I don't know the exact date. So please don't kill me H L. But I believe that was in the beginning of all star weekend because the guys were physically there. That's the only way could have all in one place. Right. So look I mean they were there and they called it the fantasy draft. You just say this morning. It was like. Like. Was it was really fun to watch. And the guys did have fun with it. Obviously. Here's the one thing though, I will say for the league. And this is like my next little plea or whatever last year, they did the draft on January twenty fifth in secret on the phone. And then the all star game wasn't until the middle of ury. And in between those two dates a lot of guys got hurt. And by just chance they all happen to be trade is Brian. Before. So. That that they happen to be on team. Lebron and that you know, disproportionate number of replacement players were on one team. And that made the game it was still very competitive. But it was it didn't make the game at quite as it has been intended. So right now, the New York Times is reporting that the NBA's intended to do this year's draft on the thirtieth or thirty first it's not confirmed yet. But that's still two weeks before the all star game. I would say maybe give extra week if they should just put you in charge of this year ago. All would have been taken care of really quick. We wouldn't have to go through to get to the next thing. I'm lobbying. Let's please guys you're winning streak. Those let it go. This Carter my friends. Here's Tracy's cousin at the age of forty one. Just he's obviously a board with our draft. Vince Carter for this year's all star game dunk contest. Look what he did last night. Oh, what back to the river of this? He's forty one Tracy. And by the way, this year's all star game, isn't sure 'let North Carolina. It's perfect for him. And your telling me, you're telling me people wouldn't vote for him. No matter what he does out there. I'm telling you, I love mccown. You're worried about the downside. Why don't you focus on the upside? There's no upside. No do so whole nother generation of my cousin out. I wanna go back to two thousand of the spectacular ducks that he that he did displayed on that stage in shack face cagey all the reactors that they had. That's what I want to know what I want. Remember nobody's gonna like expect him to be the exact same. But the way that doesn't memory of him. You know, barely enough now are lasting memory early. Early. He is not that we showed him side by side the other day with his forty one year old self and his rookie self, and they were the same height going into that, Dan. And by the way, do not listen to your cousin listen to me, and by the way, Tracy McGrady, your lasting memory events is going to be sitting on this set with you when he finally retired in two thousand twenty seven and he becomes an analyst for the job. So don't worry about your lasting memory. It'll be good coming up next. I'm so happy, even Tracy. We will check in and our favorite. Order DC orders on every day. Replay from this as well. Two thousand mama there. Wall in order to hang around. Guy on the court, though, he's on the court. He a breath after that this later marquess, but still. Same now. Tip off your weekend with our next NBA Friday match on ESPN, take the jazz at nine thirty eastern. You can always watch it live in your pocket ESPN app. Let's talk about the wizards. The wizards are two eight. This is what we insiders who really know and work in the NBA like to call not good. Although as someone who grew up in the Washington area, I can assure you it is not in fact rock bottom the wizards seasons. They only won nineteen games. Total. In fact, that is happened twice and not even that long ago. The most recent was two eight two thousand nine and yes that is when Gilbert arenas was on the team. But no that's not even the season where here nearly got into. Those of you who are looking at this team right now and thinking mine, Lord how much worse could this possibly get? Well, my answer to you is how much time do you have still? There is no doubt that what is happening in Washington right now is absolutely a mess so much. So that I believe there's a whole TV show about it. The National Basketball, so slush. The people washed in a represented by two separate yet. Equally important groups the guys were finger-pointing inside the locker room and the guys were playing for the next contract. These are their stories. Was grizzly enough. It should have probably come with one of those mature audiences. Born things starting with white Howard attempting this shot in the first quarter. Yes. To actually go onto grab eleven rebounds. But as a whole on the board a wizard or just a horror show this season their only grabbing forty four percent of available rebounds ranked last in the NBA good margin mind, you they also ranked third worst in the league defensively, which was also on full display last night. They fell behind by as many as twenty in the second quarter by allowing baskets this nice. Or like this. Oh, I mean as that defenses. We'll go on to hang seventy on Washington in these first. The wizards did make a brief rally in third quarter. They promptly fell right back apart to lose the game by nineteen at least afterward. No one on the team directly called anyone out. Which is I guess step in the right direction considering that's already happened multiple times just last month. Dwight Howard told the media, quote, we are gonna get better. Once we hit our stride. I think people will forget about what happened at the beginning of this season. And there's some precedent for that. It was just a couple years ago. The wizards started the same two eight and that season ended in a game seven with Boston in the conference semis. And you can see some other really Russ starts here. And those all ended in the playoffs as well. Of course, you think if this year's wizards we're going to dig themselves out of their whole stretch, the rain right now with when they would do it the maverick sir team they were supposed to be better than and they've got the magic and the Cavs. And the nets coming up if they don't improve soon you can expect calls to shaping up to get only louder. Although personally, I don't see anything major happening anytime soon. Coach Scott Brooks still has about twenty one million guaranteed left on his contract. He'd have to be paid out. Even if he was fired, and we'll MBA circles have been buzzing this past week creaming up potential, Bradley, Beal trades. Most of those deals are really only appealing for the other team. They be unlikely to net the wizards the crime to pieces they would need to win in the same window in which they've already committed to well winning by paying so much John wall and Otto porter which leads us to what extent after last night's game. Quote. There's only one way to get better. And that's together. He's right. This roster should be able to pull themselves out by banding together as bad as it is. It's not rock bottom. I can tell you. Although boy. You can see it from here. Longest model to save traumatize me over the years. From the dam. Personal trauma sa- Tracy helped me. So here's my recover. They can recover and they have the personnel to do. So the reason why I say that they are in the Eastern Conference. If you look at the Eastern Conference standings. I mean, Boston only has six Wednesday in the fourth street. So you look at the other teams that are below them. I think the wizards are a better team. They're not playing, but they have the personnel to turn this around this only ten games into the season. I think they will define John wall. These guys they gotta have some sort of player meeting, and they got to get on the on the road because it's really not looking good for them. There's two conversations here. One conversation was Tracy is talking about is can they recover from eight starts to get into the playoffs. I believe so for sure. This is a bigger conversation. You look at them. They are a luxury tax payers, and it's going to get even worse next year when John wall's contract, essentially, that's my point. So you're not creating young pick s you're looking are they better than the Sixers? Yes. I think they are. Better talent Sixers shown themselves in Boston. Do you think they're Toronto think they're better than the walkout? So now, you're looking at this team you like we got three hundred million dollar players. We are paying the luxury tax which is not something that the wizards generally would like to do you have to evaluate. Whether this is the team that you want to keep together when you are maybe at best the fifth best team in the conference when you're playing at the top end, and you know, you can bay whether it's a fourth or fifth ice think it's to fifth at best. They're necessarily not playing with the fifth team right now, you have to wonder whether or not it makes sense financially to let's Scott Brooks, go, we're all that stuff. Whether you needed to do something about it. Now, I like Tracy saying the players only meeting, I know that they don't work all the time. But at some point, you got to do something so John wall and Bradley Beal, Tracy, McGrady, speaking to you during our show yesterday, the NBA announced it was finding kyri Irving twenty five thousand dollars for throwing the ball into the stands after Jamal Murray dropped forty eight and then took two garbage time attempts at fifty. Yesterday at practice. Kyri apologized for throwing the ball. A more game. Competition competitive standpoint, absolutely standstill. Just that simple. You just don't know scissors tradition. Respect. Any basketball game? Obviously won the game. Had a great game gaming life. And then, you know, you do something like that. It's just petty mature. Say again. Seti? Just in case you're wondering the Celtics host the nuggets ten Martine. Far away. I love this really do because it's not really there's not much drama in. I league, you know, other than we talk about the wizards. All in order, and we talk about Jimmy Butler. This is creating some more drama eight that this is so far away. But I won't read the back his words up. Yes, you have to see these guys March eighteenth. Let's see what kind of display he's charging him with a felony. When this was like, a misdemeanor for sure. I mean, it's just it's just. He was kind of sad. You still have the ball. The Denver post reported today that the there's a as a kid who has supposed to Jamal Murray fantasy. He was wearing a jersey when he okay negotiations underway. Possibly. You know what? Has to pay for that ball. Maybe. North Korea's the one who's out of line. He's making even more the line in my mind. I mean, we talked about this yesterday. I think if you're going for your first fifty point gain ever, you gotta give the kid a little bit of a break. Now again in this league this year. He's getting the fifty km tweeting. Tweeting. Will be my last big game. But, but you know, I get it. And it's not baseball. I'm not big fan of the unwritten rules. I get it. You know, you don't wanna show people up for the sake of showing people up. But this to me wasn't Jamal doing that for the sake of showing people up. It was for the sake of getting fifty something. Great games and your career. Okay. I don't know they were. Careful. With being Celtic because it's fun when salty so it's all good coming up Jimmy Butler, chartering a plane so his teammate watch his little brother's. First college games. He's flying the plane. In the locker room is that something nothing everything out. I can't believe it. Philip brought his little brother on our mission into orbit. Get there. Get there get there. No. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with gyco. What's this button? Do what's this button? Do what button do this? I believe it could say percent or more on car insurance. Miss. It's maker mislead. Go make. Mari Spelman chasing down the ball in Charlotte crashes into the beer. Yeah. Yeah. Ryan wasn't anybody? Tell you gotta be that way because it happened. So is it still you you feel like it's worth it to have the courtside seats just got kicking the face in that one. You're all over their selves, those, you know, it's an awesome. All maybe maybe no feeding beverage maybe. Right. Exactly. This McCollum drop and forty last night. Oh boy. Boy. His hands. He slipped teens a better shoe needs. This was not the only time. Oh, really, not the only time there were there were a few times, Tracy. There's needed. Yeah. Exactly. Out of three sixty. Okay. All the way around, Tracy. There's help defense and there's health. Sorry. Make hesitation watch his move Antanus by Dennis. I mean that sounds. Nobody came to this man defense came to that look that could could've put that in. So. Into the game to get upset about that. This. Already up eleven field goals last night, one jeopar- one layup and nine dunks. That's just too off of Shaq's stats ero- record. So how would you spend Yannis Tracy if this were you at their back all the way up into the paint? Yesterday. Shoop man. Did he gets to the Incas the Cup to easy up? And he had it lets him over takes two steps to get there. They wanna go back. Make airplane mode early candidate for Doug here. So for this for just gone baseline. Wait a minute. I'm sorry. This dunk was so amazing. He forgot to Lynn. This. Why doesn't he land because he just like the cameraman couldn't come down hits? All of that. Right. Okay. So here's some other. Kate bouts amazing. There's some other ones that we're going to run a back now. Hundred miles bridges never going up and under Chris mall in the nineteen ninety nine favors right there. I was going still remember this either. Even though he has done things since this. Excellent memory, Chrissy, I trusted he can be in the in the dunk. Way Griffin Mazda. But the. The best offhand placement. Any history. Placement history. Face right now. We'll I'm Jay for you. This year working here. Hello MBA. I am here. Babe. A baby. So that I'm still haven't recovered from the. Placement is best. Geez. It's a professional television show. All right. It's time for one of our favorite games here on the jump. Stay with me come on. That lurk. There may be some consternation in the in the world's locker room. I wasn't both there look at me. But some of his teammates must love them. 'cause they're hooked up Jones last. During role to I was looking for a flight to see his brother trays first game with Duke. He couldn't find one Jimmy chartered him a private jets. They were gonna go together. Jimmy, couldn't go in the end. He sent ties anyway on his own. He talked about the gesture at the game. The fact that you're here is pretty amazing because you are with the timber wolves. And you're going to play the Lakers tomorrow, but your boy Jimmy Butler loan to the plane to get here to see your brother. What can you say about Jimmy's gesture, that's my that's my guy very selfless and news to be here. Something came up bay told me go anyways. So yeah, it's nice. Cat rutledge. So Jay Jimmy seat. So is this something nothing or everything everything? I mean, Jimmy looking was little brother like that, you know, chart in a plane, which I'm sure is over fifty thousand I want you to know that I just minutes ago. Ask Jimmy how much it cost? We'll treat around he told me nine dollars. Do you think that's accurate? Fact check. That's the thing that people don't think about the Jordan nuts. Rains on the plane. You need a larger plane for for gas. Aline. Yes. That's no small hop. Todd was negotiating with Jimmy where to fly him respect. I respect that. Because I mean, obviously, he doesn't have that type of money to make that trip like that to get there and back. So you gotta charter a plane to see a little brother play on the big stage. Like he did last night. So shuttle Jimmy alone in that plane. Them. Locker. Yeah. It's got four hours of jet time mileage, and he's not even a highest play player on the team. Why number two? You know, look, I don't think all the wolves are real thriller Gibby right now. But this was a beautiful gesture take it on its own. Why can't we just say beautiful? Gesture it I tell you. This wanted to. Generous. Jamie throw it out there. Get steph. These new favorite show. I could November. It was early this year. The the Cleveland gamblers after. Well last night this mantle Kentucky, eighteen eighty four freshmen and stations. I n Williamson and scored twenty eight points eleven of thirteen shooting. RJ barrett. Pouring in thirty three points the most ever by Duke freshman in the season opener. So something nothing everything for the NBA looking at these guys to everybody out there. I didn't go to college. But if I was going to college I was going to Kentucky, right? Well, Kentucky however signed up for this show. Not to talk about college basketball. Not nothing. Due to kidding me. This is everything. This might be the one of the most fun college teams to watch during the season ever. They've got we had mentioned Cameron reddish on here. When I talked to scout star game. I mean. Okay. People know. Zayn williams. RJ Barrett is a what they are BARRET. He has been delivered on the big stage for a long time at the world championships. The dog all American game. I wasn't surprised at all. But this other show anything there Cameron reddish who scouts love has seven foot wingspan. They got three guys. It's not a real possibility. They could go three, but certainly maybe top five and two I knew it was ranked fourth because the the voters weren't sure how they were gonna play together because the entire team. Like that team. And the NBA is watching from one beat down to another last night. The nets blew out the Suns in Phoenix Suns. Faithful booed their own team. At the start of the game. Take on the court. Take a listen. Shit. A lot of green. A suitable for say the end of the game. But I got confused because last year they were getting good at the start of games. Devon Booker scoring twenty points. They just six twenty one shots after the game. He talked about getting booed, and here's his quote be doing the same thing. If I was here, I understand it at the same time, we need to fix it at least show effort. I think that's what they want to see. And we never gave that something. Nothing everything to nothing because we've been hearing stuff like this about the Suns for years. Devin just said last year, this is gonna be the last year. I don't make the playoffs. I got news for he's not gonna make the playoffs this year. Either. Do. Well. He's got a sign that the I don't blame for taking the money. But but. You sign the name on line. And you take that money. That's not saying you have to stay there forever. You can never ask for trade. But he just signed it this summer, I'm going. I'm going off based off his quote him saying that he's you know, this is last year not making the playoffs. Well, only way you change day is in a sons uniform, right? And do you think with this'll be showed the tank wars, obviously are not in going into this season intending to take they want this young combo of Ayton invoquer to pick up some wins, the guys there, do you think they're going to be competing? So wrong. Doc drivenow that deaf. I quit was the last year in Orlando. What we only want like nineteen twenty one gate. We were awful and led the league in scorned. The fans came to see some exciting. That's true. I mean, Devon bugger. Devin, I think like that give them a show this young team. I don't expect much. I didn't expect much coming into the season. I don't expect much throughout this whole entire season from this. I thought the sun's top end this year. I thought a good season for them was if they finished tenth or eleventh right now like the kings. I thought the kings are going to be dead less kings are showing their improvement. The kids are doing what you would hope the sons would do. But it took them years just like taking Phoenix. But phoenix. Do you feel that the Suns could find themselves? Not we talk about where are on the Western Conference. I'm talking about the leak. Do you think they're going to be number two number three in that lottery? Odds. I mean, they are they are playing worse a run for their money. Thought they were I thought they were going to be better team. So should be a better team. All right. Let's talk about what the jump recommends for today. This is so cool interrupted latest episode of meeting. Joe maverick Carter talking Magic Johnson. And here's magic telling the host about his relationship with Jerry Buss and how he became a successful businessman. So he used to ask me, what do you want to do after basketball that earlier that earlier I said want to become a businessman? So he he just like took a mental note of it. When I got hurt the next year. He said this is a good time for you to really start reading getting prepared. So I'm going to take you through the books. A me explain the Laker business to you the real business. Yeah. Yeah. Took me through what season ticket holders me. What sponsorships mean with the radio contract me with the TV contract means I'm sitting up do. Wow. So he is became a father figure in a mentor all at the same time. Hi, unsafe steel tonight. Six eastern sports in our favor a mid going to the NFC weeding saint's make the right choice. Finding does Ryan plus a deep dive is the real problem playing the Lakers. Lebron Kenan be fixed with Kevin Gandhi. Right after PTO deal. Welcome back to the job. Brian has a very interesting article on ESPN dot com right now. It starts with the line quote. These are savage times for NBA defense is fry win or a steak the floor. Well, we've got a multifaceted thing. Here. We've got the best shooting leagues ever seen. We got teams playing small and fast. And we've got rule changes or at least they're enforcing rules. We just not allowed to touch guys at all you put that all the gather, and you have this incredible. Look at this one hundred forty points scoring games two seasons. They had three a couple years ago. Now, we've had six just in this season one month in and why think what you're seeing here is the defense's are just their generation behind Tracy because they can't they can't keep up with it. There's no scheme that these guys are used to playing and you play these switching schemes his guys aren't used to doing. It takes great communication takes great work unit. Most teams don't have it. Yeah. The warriors do it. Well, but the wizards try to switch, and it's an absolute. Horror show watching it. This is the only way you can really do with it. And and I thought to coaches, and they don't know what the answer is to try to get better at what they have. I don't know, man. I don't know what you do. A position enlists position. Leslie that I think you have to draft guys that have size, but also has great length and athleticism that way if you're gonna switch. They have the ability to stay in front of these guards that like Stephanie guys used length. Contest shots, Don allow these guys get into pain because once these guys get paint they break into defense down. Dan, you got shooters all over the court. I mean, I don't know what you do in today's game. When you can't be physical with these guys we see some of the best shoes I've ever seen in the game. It's you create a zone defense to try to stop this. I don't know really nothing. You can do you? Remember like ten twelve years ago, there were finals games didn't break seventy. Oh, someone who sat through those games. Fix it. They trace you played on a team where Tommy lipide oh was an assistant coach specializing in defense. And there were definitely things that having a coach like that was an advantage that you hadn't advantage in the league. Now with the rockets, Jeff the Delic who has we've talked about this week is now coming back to the rockets after initially retiring they drilled those rockets players last season on switching at practice every day entire season was geared to our when we get to the Western Conference finals, and we play the warriors. We're going to have this be second nature. They're the only team that really did that all the way through September, October, November, December, January, etc. And you could see it the team that gave the warriors the most problems as you say most don't do that they built their team to compete against a team like the warriors. So that's why they were able to do that mean they got athleticism all across the board to make those witches even their big men cappella switching out able to move his feet contest shots. I mean, these guys did a great job of that. Because it was a system in place that you can't do nothing about that. Really great ball. Team has great chemistry knows where the other guy's going to be. I mean, it's nothing you can do and wherever you know. Steph got his own gravity. I guess with the warriors like teams killed dealing all the way up and down the league teams can't deal with offenses maverick dropped seventy on the wizards in the first half. So you know, there's. Speaking of the Mavericks, we do the serious topic guys to Andre Jordan is making his free throws. He really the man's big man is shooting over eighty percent. According to Cato of the athlete. Jordan doesn't want to or think we're explain his free-throw success. Got you down. Right. Awesome. But we're not gonna talk about. Show that want to talk about I'm not gonna talk pitcher rate with a no hitter fame. Talk about first rule of free throws don't. He actually has a soap like that. We're going to honor your request. But you know, congratulations on the thing. We're not talking about coming up. Still in flag. Sixers coach Brett Brown says he must improve his shooting as basing. I it's time for our distant replay this date in one thousand nine hundred seven Lakers fans lock and you remember this one. The quick. Yes. From the mid line area. Space. As Pablo we hear it. If you've made to talk about doing piglets debut. What does Brian does for the saints of moment? Dante Jimmy Butler, selfless teammate, stay too. Watch Sixers pains tonight at eight o'clock eastern on ESPN that at ten thirty. Oh, this might get interesting. The timber wolves are taking on the Lakers. Jimmy Butler is a gopher tonight as Bryant told us earlier Markelle focused painter through Hanlin race in my browse on Monday when he tweeted and then later deleted that full wasn't healthy during an argument in Foltz defense. So here's what the former number one pig said about that yesterday. Heard about it. But much has been the same kind of work every day players can better. Like, I said I hadn't even seen a tweet or anything. I haven't paid it. His too. My mind says got Indiana coming up get ready. Get ready to beat them. So. On indiana. Cincinnati tried to make it NFL reference. D believe that he's still hurt. I don't know what to believe. And this is kind of a thing. I mean, if if you're going to keep out to everybody has to give all of their injury history out there. But there's been no so little transparency about this. And he has struggled so much. There's just made it really hard to figure it out. Here's what I know. I don't know whether shoulder hurts whatever I know that the player that he was at the university of Washington when he was a number one pick is no longer there. And if if he's injured say it's because I'm injured if he's not injured say it's say, I'm not injured. But this just perpetuates the situation it's not helping him at all rather for him to come out and say he's injured. And if it's true rather than leaving people speculate that it's all in his mind. All right. This is a very weird situation. You know, a interview Marquel last year and just a confidence that you know, he really laid out there that he was going to be this type of player, not believe them. But looking at him a feel sorry for them to some degree to to start off the season. All this pressure on you've been number one pay and I seen him in college. It doesn't look like the same guy is this the best. I hope he's not healthy is that possibly either. The things we talked about last year possibly an injury possibly a change in shooting form, possibly, you know. Rachel compounding, all of that. Or is it the in the NBA some guys those skills don't translate because the guys who playing against your faster, and the windows are closed and all that stuff shooting form is different is different. So I don't know if the injury is still there, and it's just mental he had the injury. Now, he's healthy now. And it's still in his mind. I don't know what it is baseball players and the same trainer used that quote last year saying the with also a little bit controversial. He's a well respected guy right handling very well respected guy. Yeah. Well, I know so much. Good. I will also say still has a full support of the Sixers locker room, and that always tells me something so with other guys team good point or having it then then I'm still on board to watch what he can do. Let's talk about the Lakers because we're looking to get closer to five hundred after a four and six start to the season and bunch of our insiders wrote one of those five on five pieces for ESPN dot com. It's very good. I guess you go check it out one of their questions was so good. We actually tomorrow it for today team who is the second best player on the Lakers behind the Brown right now. I would say the second best player talented was talent was I like Kouzmin. A really good player. I think is going to be a star in this league. And learn a lot from LeBron. But as far as consistency this year right now chevelle McGee the fact of this, by the way, I think you're right. I think you're right. And the fact that this is debate is not good. You need to have that guy. Even if you just want to trade him later on for Anthony Davis replay, Rex neither one of you or bringing Brennan Ingraham at all the guy that absolutely. You like the fact that it's a debate is is not good. You'd like to be able to present Ingraham. But the fact that you can't say that with faith means that it's a problem, Brian. I mean, I don't see to strive that. He's taken you know, to to be the player that was selected. I don't think he's having a lot of fun playing with the Brown to be honest with you. Wow. Wow. It doesn't look like it to me. Really? He looks. He looked in the preseason. He looked like he was having fun playing. I have not I have not noticed that in the regular stature. It's been so fun for any of the Lakers in recent weeks. So I would give brand a little bit of room on that. And also, I would say he's still has time to develop of what they want to trade him. The time is coming Tyson Chandler real quick to before we have to go. He said today about playing for the Lakers, quote, honestly, can't describe the feeling my adrenaline gets running just going through around because you see guys you feel the buzz. This was an answer to a question comparing it to the sons team. Addition put him I mean, obviously Tyson, you know, at the end of his career. He's an LA guy. I think he will help them defensively novellas mcgee's doing all he can. So when he goes out of the game. There's a major drop off. Thank he can help them. This is the holy talk. We'll see thanks to these guys high newness or the games.

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"Today's opening catcher Beverly is six one. Anthony Davis six ten catcher Beverly is talking trash to Anthony Davis. Good idea to. For sure. That's his plan in LA Bache cargo bread. I might want this week to be a little careful about getting into on-court now. Ever. Change you are walking around here. That is certainly true. Welcome to. I'm rachel. Lasting? Famer to scoring Tracy McGrady things are going to happen on this show and coming up former teammates of Chris Paul Rajon Rondo are indeed now picking sides publicly in a spat that has extended far beyond the court. I would say this is getting ugly, but it was already ugly ugly. Anyway, we'll have all that for you. But I. For the past couple of summers on gone out to watch this comedy night that Blake Griffin organizers here now way it's a bunch of really good stand up. Then Blake himself. Always does set. Also, which is well the way I remember describing it to a friend was he was really good for someone whose day job isn't telling jokes. I mean, that's a compliment. Thank you. Right. I mean, it is certainly compliment. That person's real job is being a superstar NBA player. The only thing with Blake is it's been clear for a couple of seasons. Now, exactly what he is. Is he the eye-popping talent a franchise can build itself around for the kind of overpaid salary cap drain of fantasize feels lucky treated away is he is dominant as ever when he wants to be or one time prodigy rob to by injuries. Stan Gundy believed in Blake Griffin so much last year, he basically staked his job to him. And then got fires cut to last night, which we actually thought would be quiet. They're only three NBA games being played. World Series was going on the season is only eight days old. Instead, it's become increasingly clear, the league's new slogan should be the what. Seriously, a day has gone by without something insane happening either on or off the court usually both and yesterday was no exception. Just a few hours after one of the league's starting point guards called another one of the league starting point guards, quote, a horrible teammate that no one likes the second guys. GM defended him by tweeting out a picture on a pot. Hot kennel. Manager we got pistons versus Sixers after that. And this was always gonna be juicy because of the Joel Embiid, Andre Drummond rivalry beef. That's been going on for about a year and last night at all over again with about a minute to go in regulation. You can see him bead going against drum here lane in the soft hook and this or put the Sixers up by two but watch afterward Roman. I mean does he even really grays Embiid in the face? Maybe with this forum bit watch plop down like he's been hit in the head where they bowling ball. I dunno. His second tech and the game which is an automatic action. Of course, and be trash talking up storm later in the locker room and bead with say he feels like he quote owns real estate in Drummond's head, which drew this reply from Andre on Twitter L O L does he if that's so he wouldn't be so excited to have me off the floor. Think about it. It's a silly statement. I'll take the w though enjoy the flight home EMMY award winning actor and then over and I drove it wasn't done. Adding quote that man is that. Day. Meanwhile, back to Blake the pistons have only played three games so far, but Griffin's look great in all of them finally healthy after missing ninety eight teams over the past three seasons last year was especially rough he hit career lows in shooting player efficiency. But last night all of that was just a memory. He was a steam train to the basket. We'll dunk over and beat there wasn't scoring. You could see him doing stuff. We'll nifty pass lefty. He would finish off the game in overtime JJ credit hitting a go ahead three and one to put the sisters up by two. But then Blake did this by taking advantage of the bad. Switch twisting turning lane shot wrong. The foul, and then bow nailing the cream to seal the victory he would finish with fifty points, which is a career high. But maybe even more importantly, it's the most point scored by a piston in a dozen years. A reminder of how long this franchise has been lacking a star in his prime and it's early. But that is what Blake is looking like again, a bona fide absolute star, which is a pretty good day job. Are you are you saying thank you because you played on that team? Two thousand six which is I mean, it's just that's a long it's longer ago than you think does does the way Blake played and sort of if the pistons have that piece if they have that lake Griffin. Does that change your outlook at all for Detroit outlook for them being elite in Eastern Conference? Absolutely not. I think they need a little bit more. However, Blake is that centerpiece if he can continue to be be consistent planned this way dominate inside making great passes leading this ball club. If they could get one more piece all star caliber tight clear, then I'll say, they're ready. I think Reggie Jackson is motivated this year after having a bad year and being injured hundred dramas coming back motivated and better peace will get them today at least right now. No, it doesn't change my mind. But Blake is he's off to a great start outlook was facing. This is going to be a playoff team. But in the lower half of the bracket, I still obviously Toronto Boston Philly. That's the cream of the east, and then the walkies that mix. Wash washington. I'm not going to Washington. Never get. I'm done. Never again, never. But as far as they go, I'm gonna say some different from precis Blake. But I think Andre Drummond is the key because we've seen Blake play like that in a clipper uniform, but he's the one that his potential is here, and he really hasn't reached that. And I think what Blake does is the same thing that he did for the Andre Jorde those law that pass it. We saw a dozen of those game, right? What Roman has to pass to commit to rolling heart. Send good screens doesn't on people in the debrief. He's got he's got rebound particular. He's gotta be he if he could be what the Andre was would Blake. But he's he's a better talent. I agree. But if he can do what he did that then we were talking about. Guys being right there in that four five. But after the game doing Casey was talking, and he was saying Andrea, you know, we love our guys are passionate, but they have to learn he basically said they have to learn not to take the bait. I don't know how closely Casey had actually seen that technical. And he said I seen all of it. So I'm not blaming wait here. But what did he take? I mean. I mean, I'm sure he will rate. Go back on his statement after because there was clearly a flap is this, and this is the one thing I've been really frustrated with the NBA is when you have Syria flopper, so Embiid, Marcus smart back in the day to nobly go, we know more often than not they flop. Why do they get the benefit of the doubt? Why in that moment? Of course. It'd be got hit by. Bothers me do those guys. Let's get back to you the flap, right? I mean, the first time a players determined to have committed a flop he's supposed to get a warning the second time it's a five thousand dollar fine for the new season. So I guess that this would this would be the first offense. So should he get a warning for this straight to? Could do that the rules. He got thrown out of the game for this favorite thing. That have been is that he'll flop and then when he gets the goal he gets the last immediately. Offline even like pretending like all about last year. Game. He bragged about I think if you implement this rule, you know, clearly, you gotta go back and look at this because that was clearly of flop this man should have not been thrown out of the game. If you don't implement this rule, you have to have the refs going check out the video to make sure it was legit thing is. The reason he got thrown out because he throw apple isn't that something that needs to be reviewed nothing is this. I don't think the fine system. Doesn't work is three years since anyone's been fine. No, one cares about this rule. My thing is I wish we could go to referee education where guys that flop if you have a reputation for noon at some point, you are risking not getting that call, and that's only way that's going to take five grand doesn't mean anything guys, but not getting a call, especially if you do get hit because that's what's gonna happen. There should be a client wolf thing that goes on doesn't happen. Maybe flopper xxx can keep lobbing because they'll always get the call. But if you're a serial flopper stop getting calls, let's see how much you flopped after that. All right up next. We will discuss which of the six remaining unbeaten teams is best worst. Will find out first though, here's the distant replay. This is two thousand twelve during the man of the hour Blake. Come on. Dunk on pal to all. Denies three point opportunity that reaches one side of the floor to the other to get the rebound in the twenty in contact. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Belinda Collins live on the scene of a recent lightning storm here to describe the event a TV tray. I was watching football and holding a plate of meat loaf wind Cup. Bam a bolt of lightning slams into the apartment blowing out the TV. It's around sound anything. You could have done to help. I'm a foldable table. Not an electrician were TV. Trae can't help you in a lightning storm. But the co insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage. Go to Geico dot com to see how a Ford -able renter's insurance can be Steph in chaos. Shoot the ball from so in his handles. Tony Parker finished it around the rim. Damian Lillard the way score from anywhere. Nice job. I shot a lot of what trae does he keeps guys really off bounce because he's so quick. And when he sees guys get on his heels, he knows okay? I've space for shot. The thing that separates tray with other guys in comparison to Steph as civility to shoot is. Unlike anyone seen traded that at the college level Sanal, we're trying to do is implement the difference stuff that stuff does because of shooting range guys off balance a special to dribble, and then we kind of morph into what we think can help tray the next level quick. Perfect. Perfect. Maker misleading make myth maker mislead. Creativity migos? Went on bills podcast and gave trae young the nickname ice. Tray. Is this the best thing ever or the best nickname ever? I mean, y'all a good nickname. The only thing I like is that he didn't give it to himself. Let someone give nickname hears about NBA nicknames. I I'm done with like D. Let's have actual nickname ice moves the greatest. Thank you very much. On at least everyone up to you. Thanks for that. You helped me turn that around a Twitter new username Briley marrow. Pointing out that Blake Griffin's for the game winning layup against I think is actually used to be one of the league's video guys. Of course, he might against the Sixers very similar to one Dwane Casey ran with the record last season this catch. All right. All right near Johnson tweeted after this. He's like I'm not gonna fall for that. Again. What a what do you think how many more times contain run this play? Thank you get somebody else this season. Liked to run and same stuff. Everyone does. Putting a nasty series of. Ellen Allenby that was som ish. Last night. He me. No. This is an a plus for Smith. Here's my thing. Like your shoulder hurts, whatever shot eight working. I got. News, real listen bad. This guy's been so consistent when he's been playing like it. Yeah. This is really worked his way from fringe to start in cal-. It'd be. Williamson putting on a show last night, including a block off the backboard. All right. Here's three. For so long. He's only a freshman. Sixty seventy whatever he is and company free throw line. You kidding me? How quickly would you take for this kid? I mean, I don't know taking composition should be had by now by by anybody other than the teams that are already bad enough that thinking. Which is I guess what? A lottery is for make volleyball. This bring me in the getting this Thursday now. Stealing drive to the Beasley was having young part of Mike basis into the stands. These are good blocks. Right. These are fun. No have no type of elevation and got us really elevated just waiting on you to throw the ball up there. He didn't get any seperation like down the court jogging what's going on and look at the ethnic ability. You had McGrady. Pull it out. Speaking of that producers thinking about others, bike blocks. Law van clean Howard swatting. Is there? Right. That's one athletic person against a nut athletic now. Now, everyone was this thousand nine the bird man blocking Rudy Fernandez. That's the worst. The word minutes if. This leave them back the hair. Here's. Home back in two thousand four challenge. Kobe Bryant it did not end. Well. Go on this hall of fame. All all the fake. The young rate that. Yeah. He knows that. We did. From the weak side that wasn't a help this ninety six draft class. We turn our attention now to the five undefeated teams in the league. Here's a look the nuggets and raptors both have four no while the pelicans bucks pistons sitting at three now, so who of these teams not just after a hard hot star. But the best remaining undefeated going with the the raptors because then the Eastern Conference, and I just really liked their team. You know, you lose the Rosa. But I don't want to put the markdown San. We're upgrading coli requires. You know, what I'm saying lose tomorrow rose, and you sent him. Upgraded. Wanted to best two way players in our game. I think he's going to elevate them in the Eastern Conference. Now, whether that, you know goes over into the Eastern Conference to the finals, we don't know. I mean, but I just think they have a better chance of being elite. Then the other two you if you look at that list only one of those teams as late last year, and that was the rat rat, then they got they were. And then they got better be the. Will be the best. I think by the way. This is the pelicans nuggets. I mean, these teams are getting better and for the point differential net rating, whatever you want to look at their playing a high level of basketball right now what I like about the nuggets is the death tremendous death, or you know, the defend guard play. I'm better. They're better defensively. They were they were a year ago that that you can tell by watching these teams you like who do you trust belief? Oh, man. Those teams that you think is a little bit of a fake false start Milwaukee to. Milwaukee. Because I look at these other teams can I count on the other guys have right? I've seen it yoke is pretty damn good. What he's his ability to do in that car. Play is pretty well. You look at its run. Oh, those who got Calar see what he could do in Kawai, man. I just don't know after Jaanus who can we really rely on to give him some help to help them elevate this team who Chris Middleton has been playing really well, but but I see a point. The pistons 'cause they won three games all sorts of nice things about by one two and three points. If everyone on that list, they've been playing blown out their position the one team as winning nail biters the pistons, you know, what it's comparable to the pisses three. No is no different than the Lakers Owen three when you're in calls game. Sometimes bleep ish happens. On the winning side on the leash over the long run will see who's real see we were supposed to talk about the teams with the worst records and producer. Danny says in my every run out of time. Maybe later this week coming up after the break, the CPI three Rondo continues to get more interesting and folks taking sides, he won't want to miss what he had to say about the whole thing. Who is this? I've always liked you excuse me, your green and grumpy love talking trash you scream a lot. We done here. Chest how to get under someone skin. I love that keep it up about to get onto your skin. Just don't stop being you hear me. Actually, those ED's. ESPN basketball a love story. If you haven't watched this yet, it is your own fall. We've been telling you for weeks. It is incredible more than sixty interconnected short stories continuing next Tuesday episodes seven and eight starts at eight o'clock eastern, but you can watch anytime on your phone. So you do that welcome back to the Jim just when you thought the spit gave beef between John Rondo and Chris Pau would die down big again. Yesterday Rondo continuing to deny that he spit at Chris Paul during Sunday's brawl telling ESPN, look because he's wearing a mouth card that would impact is ability to intentionally spit. He says he didn't race himself is if you just spitted someone, but he also said the league cater to Paul's, quote, good guy image thing, of course, the NBA went with his side. Look, I got three games. And he got to everyone wants to believe Chris Paul is a good guy. They don't know. He's a horrible teammate. They don't know how he treats people. So bleach report put that up and then Glen big baby Davis commented. I played with both of them C P three very bad teammate. Now, you know that baby Rondo are still very tight. It's not a shock. But still the whole thing is getting interesting because then rackets general manager Daryl Morey just tweeted this. It's a pot and kettle earlier in the show that mean that Chris Paul. Is said to the keto. Hey, you're black meaning that like pogo buttocks. You are too right? That means there's a two in there. That means he's saying that crystal is teammate as well. As Rondo not phase, not a team that you know. But here's the thing. Two things one. Again, I say this all the time. I said this last year, but they're more saying that they wanna play the warriors. They want to be general manager to not talk because you don't have to get on that court play. You don't have to coach the play. You here for the messing. Don't have to get on the court, and defend it so fun for me. But the other thing is when you have great point guards, with the exception of a couple of guns, the demanding they're going to be demanding gods and part of being demanding. And being a leader doesn't always mean being nice JC. I wanted to ask you this question given on this hullaballoo as they say who would you since the question of who's a good or bad team has come up? Who would you rather have as a teammate Rondo or Chris has to be the whole package? It's both on-court and everything that goes with them. You know, what this is this is this is fair question is the fair answer is I really don't know. Because it all depends on who is who else is around me. Because if I don't have a scoring another the score around me I wanna play with Chris Paul, right? But if I have another wing guide that can score the ball. I will wanna play what run though. Almost all on courts stuff. Don't care about. Because these both of these guys are feisty. They're great floor general. They're great leaders their competitors. This is I love guys liked it. We're not talking all time door what we're talking about. Right now, we're all times. You can take it either. Again, light, Tracy said. It's hard. Both really good. They're really good crowding because it has been a better play for his career. But the whole thing is another thing is just because some people don't get along with some people doesn't mean that's still the relationship. Right. Like, some people were not gonna get along. Chris Paul at all and some of them we're gonna love him to death. But I was saying about resign. We like him tremendously here on this. He's been in our show. I've covered him since Boston. I find him super smart super fascinating to talk to when he was time. The Lakers this season this off season. I was sorta I kept seeing on TV guys. You can't lump him in with Beasley. And stevenson. And those guys this is not all the same prison. The one thing the difference. Rondo Chris Paul is this and I'm not gonna say, this is better or worse. Chris has a very well, manicured image. And that's what. Picking out very this is why say about Rondo though. Oh is that? I am. I'm aware that just because I personally find him smart and interesting that there are people who have spent a lot of time with him. Don't feel that way. And that Chris Paul's the same way, right? There are people. Look, we're scenic out right now feel like this guy gets under your every nerve. And he tries to control everything including you. And it's not okay. But then also look we have a banana boat for reason guys in the league who love him. Everybody is not gonna like what he made or guys that you plan with. But is to me do you respect him? Do you respect him as a player, you respect man as your teammate and got extra going up against that question? And I think for both of these guys they have great respect around the lead, by the way, shameless plug. This is what my guy Steve Nash is on the best ever because everybody loved hanging with the and that's so hard when you got a lead and you've got to make everybody better. But also, you're not he was never abrasive in his leadership. I will say also about both of these. Guys, they both made mistakes some of them serious mistakes Rondo with, you know, calling out in the way that was completely inappropriate and a bunch of other stuff like that. I think both of them to their credit have come back after that and sort of tried to be better. And I think that coming out of this. We may see more of that as well. We'll have to find out. Let's get to this though. Because man, this one lead the show in an interview with Chris Ballard of Sports Illustrated. Former NBA Commissioner David Stern discussing why he vetoed. The Chris Paul to the Lakers trade in two thousand eleven so stern said he's maintained this. The Commissioner of the league he did it because the Roxie owner of the Hornets. And he didn't think that it was a good trade for the warnings. And he elaborated here saying general manager del Dem's down lousy general manager, none of the players that they were discussing in that deal. We go back checker here on the prompt because I'm going to get through what they got what the guys in the deal work here. So he was saying none of the players currently currently on that team anymore. He may lose Anthony Davis. So this is the critical I wanna get through. So this is the Chris Paul trade here. Right. This was what was supposed to be. And his point was looking the Hornets. We're going to get I mean, I'm what I didn't know all these players in this trait. This would have been a great trade for New Orleans. Yeah. Man. Lamar Odom at the time skull of Kevin Mark. One Chris Paul all these guys and that deficit is team that team that team was going to be good. And you. The other the other part of it. They did the trade that they did with the clippers a few weeks later. And you know, what happened to that team that year they were terrible. And you know, what happened at the end of that terrible. You got the number one pick, and you know, who they? David stars, right? In terms of the from an ownership standpoint was not the right deal for the pelicans aside that is a strong. This is the panic. Very strong has an emeritus position with the league either formally or informally to say about increase sitting general manager, you're sitting here saying more should be out there, right and checks his body. Can't what about this? This is sitting here. This is shocking as lousy general manager David Stern says and he points out. None of those players are currently with the team, and he may lose Anthony. That's a sentence like him saying we shouldn't have done that deal for years, but him sing all that that that was shocking seem like a personal shot the justification that. None. They'll play on the team that doesn't make any sense. Why is he blaming the GM for these guys leaving like Anthony Davis? I mean as great as he is is not New York is not LA's not Miami. Like New Orleans is not those cities these players better than any of those cities. It is also. The players in the NBA New Orleans is not attractive city. I guess what? I'm saying. Personal by city. But I'm saying what he's players these guys don't see that as an attraction to go. During free agency is just not a place for them of their destination. So we've talked about being on the hot seat ROY Moore years not not recently, not since cousins trae, basically, but for a few years before that little question there was it's fair to question, and there were directions than franchise went where we thought he was gonna lose his job. And then he we bounded he made, you know, a train trade. Julius randle. The way in terms of Anthony Davis, Anthony Davis. The question we keep asking is if the pelicans can't put a winning team around him. Then will he want to trade guess what they're threading, wait? Now, we have to give them that you call Bill lousy. There's some other names that could say your name out of my mouth on TV Lakers. Played them in night. Yeah. Yeah. A quick time. But you're going to want to stick around for more of that kind of stuff after the break here for today. Piece on ESPN dot com discussing how and why everyone leagues active scouts agents Ardi focusing on twenty nineteen free agency. This is a great read. Pablo we hit. If you missed the talk about Joel NB flopping John Rondo ripping Chris Paul who the giants tanking and Clayton Kershaw. They harsh. Now joining us on the Jim Andy as super agent, founder of clutch sports, rich. That could. Fair, and I were talking about what you might wear today. But you know, you did it. Dick Tracy's been comfortable. I was able to break out the. Can we? We'd start time that you coming on today a couple of days ago, Beasley, store obeys story you represent areas and top prospect opted not to go to Syracuse, and is now participating in with could add up to a million dollar internship with you balance. So explain this. So so dairy is is very very different kid. You know, his mom and him came to me. And they wanted it by s- and in doing so. The main thing for me was just trying to find out this way for days spent his time since he was not going to college and new balance his very fearless independent brand, and what they represent a line directly with who basically is and what he wanted to do. And so those dollars. That's no matter what which is which is great. Creative on on. But we how it came about was new balance is reintroducing themselves back into the bathroom and Darius align with who they are as a company, and they wanted to be able to tell his story in the tunnel. The right way. For me. I don't have a platform for NBA scouts to reach out and call and say, well, what's his character light? What's, you know, housing college? Right. And so I presented to them. I said, hey, let's do this deal. But but while doing this deal this implement this into the deal, and so he's going to be an intern. He starts janeway is for for three months. He'll live in Boston. He'll work out and train there. And he's able to learn a business that actually aligns with what he likes, you know, he'll learn what goes into making the shoe what goes into building a story board. What why they pick the certain athlete that they pick you know, and in so roll out plan how to execute. It all those things which for who. He is if he regards what happens life, he has a head start. He'll know more about the business around the game. The nearby class. Just based upon what he's in this. So so when he goes through this with with new balance din. No, he's working out. He's entering the draft. Yes, absolutely train is he gonna play basketball to be great. So he's not gonna play all well. And again, that's the one thing that we missing is tough define runs. Right. So he has unbelievable skill set you need to play. But. What are you gonna do? What? On the court trying to find pickup runs here. But the wages thing goes, as you know, t- Mak today, it's it's we're not Tober tomorrow in March go like that. So, but yeah. And again, any rookie comes into our league is still takes time to develop. So he has a skill set that you six nine and a half would guard skill set. So right. That's that's you know in an again. The challenge would be the actual play part. And that's okay. He's accepting that, and I tell them all the time like we just talked this morning, even if you have to play one on one on non to work on certain things definitely have to do. But I'm not going to throw him out. There would just anybody play. This is going to be something other prospects in the future. We're going to go down this path of sitting out a year, but doing other things. Yeah. I mean, you know, maybe and it's not for everybody. I'm not going to sit here and say, hey, everyone should follow this path. This was just a right path for days. This was the right path for dairies Beijing and his family, you know, it takes a collective group of people his mom was very understanding and willing to allow me to advise them as a family, and the parents are important in this is well, it's not just me, you know, the past very important you have to work together. With families to help them understand. Why this is important. I mean, we're sitting onset you're seeing. Now, we're sitting on someone. Not to go to college. And obviously you ought to go straight into the NBA bet is not available right now. Well, though, we understand it will be available in a couple years fears, someone who doesn't think you need a college experience. And that's the right thing for every kid, and again for most kids, it is the right thing because you need to learn how to play the game you need to learn how to mature as a main learn all those those support argue a lot of guys go to college didn't even learn how to play the game. Let's get into this. Right. Because we all know, and we talked about a point in this show. These kids aren't getting paid over the table. We're getting paid under the table. And the system is set up to profit the schools instead of to profit the coaches him deciding not to go into that system at Syracuse. Specifically that's losing money out of Syracuse is pocket. Right. There's no other way to say that they can't promote him. They can't have Nike contract off of him that sort of thing and head coach, Jim boeheim. He was vocal about this. To Jeff Goodman. This was his quote. The bronze did a nice job helping his client. It is lebrons. Client, right. I'm sorry. I paused before that because like. Like he really said that and yeah, LeBron leader with. The Brian, of course, one of your closest friends and one of your clients. What is your response to this comment from Jim bay, you know, coach actually called me and apologized to meet interesting? But my response is look again, we're we're talking on a system here that's been broken for a long time. And these kids and the families need option. And for me, I come from the athlete side where I'm always trying to find out. How do I do what's best for not necessarily from me per se? And so, you know, the the comments are, you know, again, he's part of a system a system that they've been able to control for a long time. And when you're threat to that system. They don't like that, you know, what it is. Client situation, you know. Again. I don't post the be here. I'm I'm a guy who used to seeing around the guys they don't expect me to build a business to be disruptive to have credibility and being a position in which it's you know, the respect as a young man as a businessman was never had to be given. So I understand I understand. Well, look, it's a mindset, you know, we talk about it all the time. You know, what point do we move past seeing color? You know, I think it's a mindset and for for this situation again, it it's just part of a system that needs to be broken. And until that happens these kids they need they need options. I know what it feels like to be a young man and not having oxygen. And we know what leader to coming from where we come from that leads to bad decision making these two impulsive decisions that lead to jail time that lead to, you know, a lot of things freedom being taken away from in some cases, death, and we all experience that with our with our peers, and that's what makes me believe different than my peers in my professional because what I come from a lines exactly what a lot of these kids are going through. Out of here because we're going to have to go to commercial in the minute. And I'm sorry. You are in LA. You're here this week because I saw you at the Laker game. You have to clients on that team. Yes, they an owned three start where is your concern level? And what do you think has to be done, you know, rage? I'm sending food and beverage on this topic. I mean, they do they have a coach GM president have owner. I'm a spectator. The game thing. I only thing. I hope is that the guys play. Well. Okay, switzerland. Giant move or. Asking you what your level of concern is and you're too good. What is the level of concern? I don't have any concerns Lois. They healthy. No, no. I don't know the team game. I consider hit. Let me know. I have concerns. Why wouldn't you? Why you? Hey, come to the game. I see God Lakers. I see my guys tonight all be good. Ause games. You gotta come all of them. Thank you so much for coming on. We're going to keep having it on here, especially as one and done comes back into being a factor in the creative thinking I like that too. Coming up which roster. Would you have the Sixers or the bucks? Which would you rather? Quickly got great, rob. Great. Rob. Brings up. Tonight on ESPN maps hawks sticking tip off. Visit trae young Cianci Billips spent time with both of them recently for NBA countdown table. Games on the line. They're coming to you. You have to. I mean. Those thing. Stead put a jumper. At what point in your young career? Did you start pulling up from? Almost four point line. I didn't I driven like I didn't make the balls. Like, I'm gonna let my point guard dribble. I'm gonna stay on the wing and just shoes. So I was always I guess shooter never growing. So I was like. So I could shoot because he did again taller. I eventually got to where seventh grade eighth grade. I had a handle, and I was always it would've shoot. So rain gotten so far because I've always worked on that. Guys distracted by trae young time to play. Under pressure. John young. I mean, I don't think either one of these guys really under pressure because we don't expect anything. You have to question. I'm gonna go done. John. John because of him being a successor to. And I mean, some big shoes. You know with. Atlanta that but I think that that's part of what's going to help. He's playing with better players. So it's easier for him to fit in with his game. Just because like the trade was for for him in the pick the way it's kind of like the Tatum thing, just Philadelphia. Essence K traded Tatum for Foltz attached, Sacramento. Dell's is pick is going to be like three or four. Happened in the Tatum deal. And the other thing is for young as a small player has a big hill to climb like the one thing about visit Donncha. He's a big dude that's gonna help them. Nightcap SPN double header Sixers bucks thirty stern Ben Simmons questionable with a back injury. So this question or producers came up with today with Wasser? Would you rather have four this season's the Sixers roster? The question was what which would you rather? Have gimme the one with two franchise players on Janas might be better than both those guys those. These two. And then be too. Now, it makes it more interesting. Viliami? Finals semi find. I mean. Both of them using both. Okay. Actually, they probably Philly probably has to. Think. So I mean, Ben Simmons a walk and triple double. And we know how good and beat is. If these guys can squeeze up in that top three. If. Hey question did us it six team. Now. Low budget going on I have been delivered any college basketball corruption scandal trial and employees former decent an NBA agents. Former runner we're all guilty and pay for place games that included wire fraud felony conspiracy to commit wire fraud. We know what the trickle down effect here is how does this impact exposing the incident, and how will this eventually impact NBA? Well, think what rich was talking about right there. It's a system, and this is how the system starts to break. But as well. As long as college keeps on a couple of guys. About ten then real change won't happen to changes with the players and their families to say, we we have another way man, forget all that. I forget all that guy. Right. This is personal. Devastate news and the idea that he is. I mean, these particular guys are being held accountable and possibly put in prison for a system. Zip for today. Thanks to me, Tracy Richmond by three o'clock, tomorrow, NBA, we're crazy happens.

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It's being brought to you by chase. Also, get triple action protection for optimal engine performance which show v power nitro plus premium gasoline any minute now, we'll have on the challenger. For the WBAL two-way crown this Saturday night at the GM, Brandon laws Vegas agent. Bruno will be set to go up against Manny Pacquiao. We're waiting for him to come on the line right now. He's training. He's training. So, you know, I I'm very very particular will boxes from the standpoint. I don't like Messa with it. And they were teens. I don't like mess with anybody else in the sport of boxing along with 'em, a UFC style. People got a licensed, assault you. Okay. So guess what? You gotta let them be who they are. You gotta let them do what they do. And you gotta take him any way you could get them. Anyway. So if you hear Adrian Brune, I heard he was on the treadmill running. So if he's on a treadmill running in interviewing him on a treadmill? I don't give a damn as long as you could hear him. Clearly, don't matter to me, whatever it takes you understand. I hope he don't eat don't custody out like it did outburts Stein. Okay. Okay. The nice, AVI. Of course, you might go off on it doesn't get much nicer than our Bernstein. Okay. Consummate professional covering the sport a of for many many years, by the way. But any of these listen when you're about to fight you got to be in that kind of moat got to be kind of move. You can't be about the business of friendships. Got you gotta do. I totally understand that make no mistake about it. By the way, he is being radio's presented by progressive insurance making it easy to bundle your home and your car insurance, plus with the vivid seats app, it's easy to find awesome seats to any game. Download the app and enter promo code champs at checkout to get ten percent off your first order it at eight say ESPN, it's edited seven to nine three seven this whenever Adrian Brown is available to come on the show. I will be happy to put him on. He's. Thirty three and four that is his wreck thirty three and three. I'm sorry would one draw. He has never been knocked out. He did get put down by Markos Madonna, but he got up. He lost that fight. That was. That was back in December of two thousand and thirteen. Laws the show import in two thousand fifteen June of two thousand fifteen loss to Mikey Garcia in July of two thousand seventeen. Majority draw against Jesse Vargas last, April so Adrian Brodie. I mean in terms of potentially being a marquee. This fight is incredibly important to him. He loses this fight. He'll probably fall off the mat he wins this fight. It'd be a big difference of all how one of the belts. And Secondly, and more importantly, it will put him in line the face some of the elite dudes in the division. I don't know. Whether it's a rematch with children porter. Whether it's a match against God, Danny Garcia, whether to shot against Keith Thurman, whether his going against aero spins junior, who's my favorite in the welterweight division. There could be potentially a lot options for Adrian. Oh, because if he wins this fight he's a champion. So let's keep that in mind champion belt that many pack out took from Jeff worn. Now from Jeff on. I apologize. But. He just want. I'm sorry. I was somebody was in my LA this gentleman. I got a bit distracted my apologies. Adrian pro wants to come on at approximately thirty minutes past the hour. That's fine. Hopefully, he'll be ready to go adapt particular day and time, by the way, I didn't say Jeff home because a pack ya got robbed at the decision. Jeff one lost at but ended up winning that TKO against Lucas Matisse's DC t say so pack yet won that fight. It's got WB belt and as a result now. He's going to defend it against Adrian Pronin who will be all with us thirty minutes past the hour until then we'll get back to the phones and eighty eight say ESPN edited seven to nine three seven seven six. But before I do that. Scotty pippin. I don't know. I think he was on the jump is that right cat was he on a jump? Yes. He was on the jump with Rachel Nichols. Who bought away did a great job interview and boogie cousins is well, she always this great job. Scotty Pippen was speaking about Zion. Williamson of Duke. And he said something that got my attention. And I just can't avoid talking about it. I have to address it. I'm not doing my job if I chose to if I chose to ignore this. So let me just get right into it. Please play what Scottie Pippen said about Zion. Williamson please definitely going to be the number one pick. I mean, I think he's done enough for basketball college basketball that is more important personally now, and I think for him as a young player that I would show the down. Let me let me let me actually I would stop playing. I feel that he could risk a major injury that could really hurt his career football players are doing it. Why not the college football players are skipping a bowl games. And they're getting ready to come by. If I was him. I know him. At least three NBA pick. I'm out of his time. So down. That was Tracy McGrady in background talking to Rachel Nichols as well. I know that voice. Great Scottie Pippen, and Tracy McGrady should be ashamed of themselves ashamed that himselves now say that affectionately because I got love for both brothers Scottie. Pippen's the six time world champion. Okay. Michael Jordan doesn't win six chips without Scottie Pippin, the great Scottie Pippen. I usually am deferential and Tracy McGrady. That's my brother love him dearly. Okay. But they know me I could get on them affectionately and still have love for them. How can you say, especially you? Scotty pippin. Y'all Cade say that tries to you can't say that. I have no problem with them saying out of Duke who is elite big time and the whole none. I have no problem with them saying that if you're talking about a season before it starts you can't encourage a kid to ignore his team and quit in the middle of a damn season where you are in pursuit of a national championship. Because you wanna get the pro money if way of saying had decided as a high schooler that he was coming to the NBA. He would have been a first round pick. He might not have gone number one overall. But he definitely would have been a half first round pick in this in the last year's NBA draft. You can't encourage a kid. You can't talk about a teen. You can't talk about chemistry. You can't talk about the importance of being one unit like minded with the agenda of capture and championships and turn around and encourage a kid in the middle of the season to quit. You can't do that. You can't do that. Ziya? Where's that now? Play jet. And they were saying sit out that's different was Scotty Pippin said he shut it down. Like now. We're not hurt. And it's been on the court bullet, the only injuries was a it off. That's it. You're telling me that a kid. That's healthy is ready to play ball whenever dukes next game is because I don't have this on the front of me. Dude as absent better than twenty due to as dropping thirty five in a loss to Syracuse. Tell the night. Playing for Duke, which was ranked number one in the nation at the time, which is clearly a pursuit of a national championship. You're trying to tell me that a champion six time champion who understands what team is all about and a hall of fame Tracy McGrady with literally sit up there, and it covers the due to just walk away from their team and quit and the middle of the season. In the middle of the season. I don't understand this. I mean, great great job on a jump. You said something that's gone, folks. Attention. We always appreciate Rachel Nichols. Bringing folks on that'll do that. But thank the heavenly father that I wasn't in studio with Tracy McGrady and Scottie Pippen when they said that. They might they might have decided to take the jump off the air with the stuff on my to set to those brothers. Not brothers love them both. But you can't do that. You can't do that. Now in the middle of the season. Completely healthy. Nothing wrong with them physically bulling ready to go, and you would encourage him to just walk away and quit on his team. To enjoy doesn't get injured. Will have nothing wrong with him. But champion six times over one of the fifty greatest players to ever play the game. One of the greatest defensive players we've ever seen in the history of basketball being co signed ball hall of Famer and one of the prolific play went healthy. We had ever seen in a game it Tracy McGrady with cosigner dude quitting on his team. And a middle of the season. You can't do that. You can't do that. I can't believe Scott, even and Tracy McGrady said or Scottie Pippen Senate, and Tracy McGrady goes on it. I can't believe I can't believe I can't believe. Walter to allow Stephen eight what's up. Stephen a talk to me. Hey, I'm disappointed in you, man. You said you give the nets enough credit? And today show. He didn't even mention the nets winning against Houston. I did mention them off I take and I brought him up at the top of my show. That's a lie. Let me finish. No. No. No. No, no. You don't get to finish lies. That's not true. I mentioned I'm more. I take and I mentioned them all radio near the top of the show today. That's false. We didn't talk about them with hitting the three pointers to bring that back out a regulation. That's not the point. I mentioned the Brooklyn nets and how much better I thought they were than I thought they would be at the beginning of the season. I mentioned heart and drop a fifty eight but Brooklyn beat them and Brooklyn's a damn good team. That's gonna make some noise watch out for them. That's what I said. Individually didn't say. So in other words, you want to edit my show and tell me what I'm supposed to do individually not mention Dinwiddie yesterday that I mentioned him last week. Like Steph curry did. So do it continuously. It's not about the three shots like Steph curry does that Steph curry is made a career of doing this. Let's see what kind of careers Spencer Dinwiddie has. I understand that that I'm talking about specifically that may make another point don't tell me what to do on my radio show. I'll say what the hell I want to say how I want to say, and I will include an MIT what I want. But I did mention them. What are the point? I'm just saying I just hope you give more credit to the individuals on the net. Goodbye. And they have a nice day. Bye. You gonna call more visual? I sat up here. What show in America? Do you see talking about the Brooklyn nets spent then they're half hour on them yesterday? Shut the hell up. You just wanted to call up and wine. So you could go back and say the folk hook will. Real you. So to warn shallow up go to the next. Call Eddie you lava Stephen what's up. Hey, thanks for taking the call. Yup. On the call and see what you think about possibly Kyrie Irving going to play with LeBron away. I think it's highly unlikely but still possible. All right. And then you for us. Do you think there's any possibility that a Jalen hurts possibly win the Heisman over to this year? No. I don't think the Jalen hurts is a good thrower. I'm very proud of what I saw him do against Georgia. I know he was working hard during the season on his mechanics and improving upon that. I think he has tremendous potential tremendous athlete. I think Oklahoma is going to win some games with him behind center. No question about it. But I don't think he's a thrower of the football that too is. And so I don't see that happening now. Thank you. Let's go to Darius. Allow Stephen talked me Darris. Hey, even low communist refers time caller. I'm just going with Tracy McGrady and Saudi tip. I agree with it. Because look at the other sports like all in tennis and hockey. Both folks are going pro at fifteen sixteen seventeen. I right there star star star. Stop see you misconstrue my point. You don't listen what I say was no problem with this gestion at the beginning of a season before anybody's played. I'm saying if you're in the middle of seizing you've been a part of the lineup you're not injured, and you just say, all right? I'm quitting on the team while in pursuit of a national championship. You can't do that. For you got injured. You got injured then you don't wanna come back and risk further injury. That makes sense or you don't want to risk injury at all. So you refuse to play at all this season. That's different. But once the coaches asserted you into the lineup, and he's game planned with you in mind, and he's determined as rotation and all other things that come with it. You can't just quit on the team in the middle of a season. When you're one hundred percent healthy. You can't do that. Or it Kelly Bryant did that with women. No, he did not know he did not Davos winning. They decision to go with Trevor Lawrence and recognize that he had to make the decision at the time to make the decision because you were talking about eligibility issues with Kelly, Brian. And so as a result not wanting to compromise the kid in any way, you made a decision when you had to make decision to do what was best for your program and to preserve the eligibility for Kelly. Brian that wasn't Kelly. Bryant quitting on the team Kelly. Bryant been demoted he wasn't playing. So williams. Thought in a key component at a Duke blue devils the pursuit of a national championship. You can't compare to. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Let's go to Joe you lava Stephen. Yes, I'm here. You live on the air. Go ahead. Are you doing my big plan on the show? Mike, you go ahead. I really wanted to call you about the Bronco that design William you ain't talking about Joey both about who Joey Bosa your what about both because the whole euro say what Nick Volks you talking about. Nick, bolsa, Nick wells. But what I'm saying that you did you just say the whole year. Well, now, he could would you usually play with guns. No, no, no, no. You don't understand what I'm saying? I'm saying that you you're talking about the player I'm talking about champion and hall of famous suggesting that the player should just quit. That's what I'm talking about. So yeah. Yeah. What's my name brother who you ought to play with? I know what I. I know what I am. No what I say. I know in our stay about what I say. I'm not talking about thion Williamson, I'm talking about champions like Scotty Pippin hall of famers, like Tracy McGrady. So just in the showed. There's there's wisdom wants to quit on this team to make sure he preserves his health. So he can get his money. All right to each his own. You got your own family issues, only, you know, what they are respect that. But a champion and a hall of Famer can't suggest is what you should do in the middle of the season. What about Colleen what about him? He could be your. Oh my God. Are you having a difficult time comprehend in English? I specifically just said I'm not talking about the player. I'm talking about someone suggesting the players should. I would say about I'm talking about a Scotty Pippen said he showed Tracy McGrady city show that's different than Cario Zion. Somebody actually doing it that's their life. But you as a commentator pundit who played the sport who want championships who understand what's required who understands what comes with greatness. You would suggest he should quit in the middle of the season. You can't talk about team. No more than think about this. Let me put it to you this way. And we all this all fun because I love Scottie Pippen was a good brother and a great champion. And we don't even want to tell you how close I am with Tracy McGrady. That's my man. So we just talk a basketball ain't no. But love for them. But let me break it down to you this way. Joe think about it. Like this think about it like this. Scotty Pippen could say Zion. We've since you quit, right? And just go pro every reserve talk to go pro right in the middle of the season. How could he say anything about any player being dysfunctional? If you okay that. And then we ended the way the guy. Why not what is it? Not it. Tell me when a commentator suggested somebody should quit in the middle of the season. Got nobody does that. Nobody does that you get hurt. You might not come back because it's too risky because one hundred percent healthy. And you got hurt all before the season. You make a decision not to come. But you one hundred percent healthy dropping thirty five and a college basketball game duck in on everybody every chance you get being one hundred percent healthy. And just say, you know, what I don't feel like playing no more the hell with the national championship pursuit. I'll go till out a way for the NBA draft who's done that who. Come on man, you know, better than that. You can't condone that. Could we own it? You can never say anything about anybody else. I we want to call them by John Elway. My why everybody what about why is everybody? Everybody's owns Jones. Right. Everybody say you soon be too GM. John Elway didn't fail o-over. Oh. Oh, right there Saturday John away has not done a good job as of late evidence. Peyton Manning left. They've done nothing. But. But who got paid into come to Denver? Tabulate Tom who got paid man in the come to work with me here? Just answer the question. I don't need to the peanut gallery. Two extra the extra stuff. Just answer. The question who got payment and come to Denver? Of course, always. Okay. Did they want a Super Bowl when he got here? All right. Was the last time the Cowboys won Super Bowl? We talk about the cattleman. I'm just saying you say everybody getting on somebody else. Jerry Jones, you brought up Jerry Jones, when's the last hundred dollars. Cowboys won the SuperBowl. Twenty five how many playoff games that? They were in the last twenty five years time, we have to lose fees. I'm here. When's it asked to my question? When's the last time the Dallas Cowboys won the Super Bowl, and how many how many playoff wins? Do they have in in in the last twenty five years three? All right. Here's one question. How many wins in the postseason? Does it? Take to win the Super Bowl. At least three so no at least three so at least three ways that you have. So what I'm trying to say is in one year of winning the Super Bowl and another year of going to the Super Bowl when they lost the Seattle, that's at least five playoff victories. That's still to more than Jerry Jones had last twenty five years. Why are you bringing John Elway his name up in the same sense as Jerry Jones only cry through the pain? Bill. You're Brock Osweiler. Right. I I agree with you that John Elway has struggled. All I'm getting on. You about is for mentioning him in the same breath as Jerry Jones. That's all they have a nice day at an eight say ESPN, eight seven to nine three seven seven six. Let's listen. Thirty minutes past the hour Adrian bona in pursuit of the WB crown of against many Paki out this Saturday night at the GM grant in Las Vegas, Nevada. He'll be on the show with us. So he says we hope that he will be until then Stephen A ESPN radio ESPN news right away. Gentlemen. Stopped lounging around be active. Take your girl out go to a game more concert get tickets to something. Plus the players are upon us. And the time is now to jump on those tickets for your ticket needs look, no further than vivid seats deficient department of ESPN dot com and enter promo code ESPN to get ten percent off your first order get out. Go having experience fellas get to the game and use what I use it's vivid seats once again Adrian Brodie up next don't touch that. Dial Stephen is radio. Let me tell you about Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let them stay on the ice by some nights. He even slept in its hockey skates. He practiced and practiced until one day when he was forty seven Pete realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his skates in the trash. But then you heard how DIKO proud partner of the NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out. You'll seem to the Stephen a Smith show podcast. Saturday night January nineteenth the UFC debuts on ESPN. Plus with a true super fight champion versus champion bantamweight title. Hold a T J dillashaw drops to the flyweight division to face the king of the one hundred and twenty five pound division. Henry Suharto live on ESPN. Plus at ten pm eastern. Coverage of the prelims starts on the ESPN at eight pm eastern, by the way, start your free trial of ESPN plus today. Download the ESPN app to get the best of UFC on ESPN. Plus, I'm hoping my next guest challenging Manny Pacquiao for the WB welterweight crown the one and only Adrian Bruneau are you there? My man. Hey, what's going on, man? How you doing wondering? Why you ain't here? Let me tell you. I'm I'm not there because they got me working pro. I got I gotta work radio. I gotta work television. Listen as much as I love boxing. I don't get to get to too many five to Floyd fights my talk rear. I went to a heavyweight match with wilder and. Call you out. You know, have a call you. Gotta call you. If you would be here. That's not true. That's not true. It depends on where he's fight because let me tell you something Audrey burden on a bunch of this plenty of fights in-shore for Floyd. That's not true. I swear to you. It's not true. What what what are you saying? There's not a big fight. Well, you know, what you know, what I'm going to tell you this agency says we want to talk you like interviewing me, I don't mind answering these questions actually love it. Let me tell you. I think I actually want you to win this fight, man. I want you know. No, no, no. Not be here. I didn't have to bring your name yesterday. I brought her name up because you wouldn't fair. And I thought Greg your name we're going going to make you know what? All right. I'm going to go there. And I'm gonna interview that I do let me tell you something. I can I can I make a razors. This your win this fight. Will you want me to come in? How about that? How about that? Because Adrian granola. You know what we don't win? And I'm coming to LA, and we're gonna do it there. Browser that edge, bro. I mean, we take to show most of the time. We do the show live rather most of the time in New York. But sometimes we do it in L A. But I'm going to ask you this question. You ready for this fight? Are you ready to take out Manny prac? Yup. Is the elephant heavy Justice. Now, that's not that's not answering my question because Adrian when when when we look at you, listen, you, listen, you're thirty three and three for crying. I like you've never been knocked out give you mad credit for that. But the three losses since one could argue you shouldn't have lost any of those fights. You shouldn't have lost Mikey Garcia. You shouldn't have lost Markle's but done you compete those gods. So there's been questioned. All right. So so why did you lose those fights and wash it we believe you're going to be back you out of Saturday? I'll answer those questions when we do a personal interview poem on there. We go. Right now, I'm focused on many pack yelling. I will beat many Pecci out Saturday. Like, how do you know what other questions as those questions up? And that's fair. That's fair. I can understand that tell me why you're gonna be mad. So let's stick to many pack you out in. All right. Why are you going to be many pack out Saturday night? What? Because honestly, he does not a better fighter than he. He's not he's not blessing. What what what God gifted with and everybody. No one hundred percent Adrian broader is undefeated stays undefeated. But. I'm not mad about you know, my losses. You know? They made me who I am the day. So you know, they night that will be another turn to my chapter in my book, and I will be taking over the sport of boxes. Now. Are you are different Adria Bronner is this somebody? That's just ready for this fight. Or are you a new man you've been to a lot, and I'm not gonna chronicle all of that? We only got a minimal amount of time. It will save for that face to face when we have that one day in the near future. But are you a different Adrian Brodie a period, or is it just going to be a different fighter that shows up Saturday night? No, no, no. This is being AB going to say series, man. Like, I said before it is the second half of my career. If I don't do it. Nobody going to do it. If I don't nobody's gonna help me. So you know, I gotta make this happen. We had enough plant. We we did enough planning our career, you know, it's time to fight serious question in all seriousness map because because obviously I'm hoping that you will. But here's the deal. You know, there there were stories with that was talking about how you was as such a depressed state that you contemplate, and they point to tweets crying out loud. This is this is months ago, obviously, where you actually contemplated committing suicide because of the folks walking away from you folks, not believing in you folks, abandoning ship after a loss here, they're, you know, obviously, some of the legal troubles that you got into are you beyond all of that. Are you totally ready and that stuff is in the past? And you're in a better place today more so than ever before. At the movie. And I think it was so January nineteen like I said before after the fight. I'm I'm definitely coming to get the win. I'm going to get the win. I'm gonna do whatever. I gotta do to get the victories. And then I gotta meet up to you. I don't care if you let your your friend house, your best friend. How people do the interview. All right. That's no problem. But let me ask you this also because when people talking about you in the latest fight they're saying you don't throw enough punches. You do understand this as many pack. Yeah. You're going to get you're gonna have to throw put just to win this fight Adrian. But in about a lot of punches about doing the right punches, and we've seen we think that putting your con-, you know, he got plenty along. He got more losses than me. So so we're not gonna just make things like I'm fighting. I'm fighting God it the person who don't make mistakes. Right. We're we're fight many pack. You out the person who got knocked out three times flatlined every time. He got multiple losses. I it's not it's not a mystery that he can lose. Well, definitely take many prac. You could lose it. I definitely through particularly considering a counterpuncher that you are. I definitely think that you gotta damn great shot. My issue is is that again if you're not throwing enough punches. And let's say, for example, it goes to the scorecards you might find yourself on a short end of the stick again, just because you was an active enough and the judges don't give you an acquaintance. They've said that about you and losses in a couple of fights that you just did. I'm gonna take that. I worked my hip. And I won't put on the show. Jay wright. Okay. Are you predicting a knockout on a decision? It's the opposite to self. I'm taking it. Okay. And what do you expect a Manny Pacquiao to throw it? Right now, they throwing the book at me. But right now, I'm I'm so I'm so in shape, I feel so good. If it was a rain storm in Iran in and are coming in dry. Your broder. Good luck Saturday night. I will be watching. I can promise you that. Thanks a lot, bro. Thank you. We'll talk. Adrienne Brown challenging many pack for the WB crown right here with Steven A ESPN radio. ESPN news editor they'd say ESPN. It's inundate seven to nine three seven seven six look. We can't excuse everything that we've heard and seen for major Brown. And again, he was running on his treadmill and all that stuff. He say going to answer any question because he's like if it was Floyd there, you'd have been there, actually, I've only been to Floyd fights in my career when he fought Manny pack. Yeah. And when he fought. Conor mcgregor? 'cause those were I didn't go to him when he didn't go to the Floyd fight when he fought Bertel actually three because I did go to see him against Arturo gatty more than a decade ago. God rest his soul gatty because that fight was right in the city. But I didn't go see Florida. Oscar, I didn't go see Floyd again. It's almost against almost anybody else. I saw three fights geddy pack Yao and Conor McGregor. That's it. That's it. Now, he's there Mike Tyson. So by that had been different because I love you guys. But getting back to Asia rohnert, look, this guy's got a who's who's what's list of legal issues domestic violence, aggravated robbery weapons case against him beat up a man over a gambling dispute failed to appear court one time another time appeared in court late and drunk and got thrown in jail by the judge because of that. I mean, everywhere you turn it in the two thousand sixteen admitted he contemplated suicide. What a string of disturbing post on social media. But here's the deal the fight game. Here's what the reality is people look at Brana and they look at him as wasted talent. Because he's a big Tom talent that doesn't utilize all of his talents to you know, his capabilities. It's not throwing enough punches doesn't appear to be focused enough. Not always shaped that kind of thing. And they've lamented that, but the reality is that if Adrian Brana was focused. His skill set that he possesses is the period enough to most where you look at the three time champion, a former three time champion in three different weight, classes, you look at him. And you say guess what he can do some things whereas Manny Pacquiao is widely recognized somebody who's lost step who isn't what it used to be. But he's still beloved. So we shall see it at eight say ESPN editing seven to nine three seven seven six. No one ever goes out of style. Surprising, especially friend, a loved one. With twenty four multicolored roses for twenty nine ninety nine for one eight hundred flowers dot com to order, go to one eight hundred flowers dot com slash ESPN. Your calls to close out the show in a minute. You listen live, Stephen ESPN radio. ESPN news. Just what you're in the middle of a Stephen swift show podcast made it. If you missed any of the show today, you can go and check it out on demand in the Stephen A podcast brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent at grocery stores and one percent on all of the purchases. Hey, hey, what's in your wallet? Always was envious of Samuel Jackson those Capital One commercials. Oh is that imagined myself? Hey, what's in your kind of like that back to the phones, we go it at eight say ESPN, let's go to Jordan, and you lava Stephen was Georgia. Hey, what's up good afternoon to you? I got a comment on Kyrie Irving, not Doug that into the ground. So I know he's apologized the Baronne but after going from Cleveland to Boston, even though the Celtics are in a better spot. What Cleveland is now two part question. Do you feel? He's having second thoughts on how things are turning out with injuries young talent visible frustration on the no, I think the second. I think his second thought was in regards to how unreceptive he was to what LeBron James was trying to do. And now that he's faced with the similar challenge. And he's got guys griping at him the way he may have felt he was griping LeBron. He's a bit more sensitive and understanding of what LeBron had to endure. I think that he was being honest about that. Yeah. Especially with him only being you know, an average of three years older than a lot of the people on the team second part of that was do you feel behind closed doors that he's won over Boston? And do you feel? He's won over that team. I mean that's much. Boston loves him. No question about it. But also understand why if both didn't have him they probably would have kept as Thomas, and you would have gave Ozzy at Thomas who's now making two million a year two million rather for this one year deal in Denver. You would have given Isaiah Thomas but hundred and fifty million minimal. That kinda relieved and that's not the knock Isaiah Thomas. Isaiah Thomas last time. He was held. He was average at twenty eight point nine a game. The problem is that is it Thomas hasn't been healthy over the last couple of seasons. That's been his challenge. Here's Cleveland fan. And I've been following them for a long time. I just I like. I got I got I'm on. I'm on a tight spot. You know, you giving me sentimental feelings. I got it. But I gotta go. Appreciate it. Marsha you live Steve and they would up. Hey, how's it going more breaking the call? Why do you think Dwayne Haskins is projected to go earlier in the draft? And Kyle Mary why is bigger bigger? And the Wayne has because there's a ball and the lead in Ohio State the things that he can do the versatility. They say he can make professional throws. He can run with the football. He's got better size on him as well. And he comes from an elite program. I think that's the reason why I gotta run. I appreciate it. Troy real quick. You've got thirty seconds. Go. Yes, I'm Yarbrough. I just want to say about the Paki outside. I mean rar your father live west. But when you call them, Madonna, you got beat up. You're not a champion. You've gotta do your thing. Make sure you handle your thing. When you go in there and fight back. Yeah. He's left handed like me. Brian. You're going to get knocked out Paki out his ass. Real quick. 'cause I gotta run you're predicting that. Yeah. I was going to knock out Brunner. Is that what you're predicting predicting? I'll take get back y'all. All right. I got you you predicting the pack. I was gonna knock out, bro. I understand. I got it got to get on outta here. Thank you off. Joining the show today talked about Korea, LeBron NBA interviewed Adrian, Brodie, etc. Etc. But I'll be back in twenty two hours until then piece of love. Everybody's Stephen as sano grass. Just a sample of what you hear on the Stephen swift show, weekdays at one PM eastern on ESPN radio and ESPN app.

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037 - Husbands Dunk on Your Wives According to Knowledge

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51:19 min | 1 year ago

037 - Husbands Dunk on Your Wives According to Knowledge

"Or gesture here. We go counters going now. Well I I haven't owned a TV in twenty twenty some odd years all right For during that time of either just not watch. Tv or of sort of learned taken. What would be my television viewing in alternative formats like like youtube? Which I'm sure the case for a lot of us Now one of the Nice things about turning to an endeavor like I've just turned two which sort of recently went from Some feeble attempts at a podcast to now whatever this is is thanks to the good folks at Google. I have twenty plus years of television at my fingertips at my disposal. So I say all this to say not everything that I'm going to be commenting on is is recent in the chronological sense Because the chronological sense is not or I should say. The immediate chronological says is not not my primary concern Picking stuff that is recent culturally. Recent ideologically okay. I found this clip On Youtube of course imagine that found this clip. It's from a couple years ago in fact the video. I'm GONNA do next. F probably one or two videos after this is even further back than that. So don't mind the date on this stuff it's not hugely important I'm trying to grab stuff that I think can be dug into and something valuable can be learned or or you know. Is this GonNa be fun to comment on right? I mean otherwise why am I doing this I grew up in NBA Fan as a kid. I love playing basketball. love watching the NBA As I get older and I get. I gain some perspective on my Fandom as a kid I realized that my my phantom was was more about Some sort of fusion between the game. I love to play and the team I love to support. What would I mean by that? I mean like I wasn't so It really wasn't like the whole league that I watched as a kid. I watched like the whole league through through the Lens of the team that I loved and maybe that was the case with a lot of us. I didn't know a lot technically Fundamentally about the sport So my knowledge of it and my enjoyment of it wasn't real sort of technical and scientific. It was really more sort of fan base than a motive You know I grew up in the Jordan era. I grew up in the Chicago land area in the Jordan era. In you know. How can you not get sucked into that? I remember I. I started watching ball Basketball probably just before the Pistons rose to prominence sort of look at the end of the Lakers era late eighties. I was in Michigan during the During the Pistons era that was fun But I was never real. I didn't really grow up in a sports household. I didn't have a sports inclined. Father didn't have any sort of like framework around me that probably would have given me A sort of more technical appreciation of the game I was just you know a young kid a boy. I love playing basketball with my friends. Even especially this remains. It's funny. I'm a forty one year old man. This remains the case to this day with myself even just by myself. It's it's sort of a Cathartic I won't say religious but sort of therapeutic. You know. There's nothing I love more few things. I love more than sort of just being out on a court by myself. Just working on my shod or you know just it's just I don't know man and that's probably because of the way I grew up with it. Whatever it is what it is But something that has become increasingly interesting to me as I get older and my mind. Expands and the purview of my concern expands and simultanously focuses. If if that doesn't seem like too much of a of a contradiction are the way that cultural issues are reflected in the sporting world. I say this as a as a man who does not invest a lot of time and mental energy and spiritual energy in the sporting world. The way a lot of dudes do I did again as a younger man. But then I got to a certain point in my life where I was just like look man. I just can't. This is not that important. You know And maybe that sounds a little bit self righteous and I apologize if it does. I think that if my if my technical knowledge my technical Appreciation had been stronger as a young man than that would have sort of carried me through all right. See them saying that would have carried me through into early adulthood and adulthood and sort of colored or informed my appreciation of the sport whereas the Mir kind fandom based appreciation that I that I had as a young man wasn't sort of enough to carry it through so the the moment life got a little bit more serious concerns got a little bit more profound existential or whatever then the sort of like just kind of the Phantom aspect to my Sports was wasn't really enough to carry it through in my life. Whatever or or or or you could just say you know Jordan retired. There's there's that explanation do okay. So all that's probably unnecessary to say here. But you gotTA intro video in some way. I remember when that went when the women's Basketball Association came about Member being vaguely aware of that happening. Sort of like Jason Lee to the the ongoing National Basketball Station National Basketball Association. The men's league Didn't pay a lot of attention to it. A lot of people don't pay a lot of attention to it. I continue to not pay a lot of attention to it and a lot of people continue to not pay a lot of attention to it. Now what's fascinating to me now? Later in life as a man who who thinks a lot about cultural issues philosophical issues And so on and so forth is is is why that's the case all right and I think I've got some pretty plausible lines of argument In that realm. I don't WANNA get too into it here. But I found this clip I found this clip. That I felt was pretty fascinating. That there's sometimes. There's there's topics that you tend to you know whether you tread and retread them in conversation or dialogue with others or you tread and retread them sort of mentally internally with yourself you can sorta lose your fascination with you sort of get a feel for the contours of the argument. And though you don't believe it any less you grow less. Sort of a enamored with making the case. Because it just it. Something comes to feel so obvious to you but sometimes an angle or a A facet of an issue that you've considered a la and maybe used to Animate you but doesn't anymore. A facet of initially can come along and sort of reignite your interest in it at least momentarily discussing topic I guess. That's what's going on here because I found this clip between the sports program. Mba program the jump hosted by. What's her face what's her face. Rachel Nichols and you know and and frequent guests Tracy McGrady so they had wnba player. On now. I don't remember this girl's name. Oh in the fact that I don't remember her name is it might seem peripheral here but it might be significant Brianna something. I'm not trying to take necessary potshots but but there is going to be. There is going to be a little bit of significance to this. Okay because for those of you who don't know Or maybe don't spend a lot of time thinking about this stuff or who are maybe sort of just sucked into the sort of Cultural Eddie. The cultural tied that is the Equality Movement you know between men and women or rather the Equality Movement as levied by. See what I did there levied tied Eddie like that the Equality Movement is levied by women at men right or some women at Allman For those of you might be sort of a wittingly on one of the wittingly sucked into that You might not really realize. Just how just how? Poor are the returns on that investment. Okay let me give you an example. I recently read that The WNBA as a venture as a business as an as a as a as a capitalistic endeavor. Now in a moment I'm going to infer from all of this that is not a capitalistic endeavor at all but just listen the WNBA loses. I think I read recently on average loses ten million dollars a year. So okay were were were either building or renting out these arenas and were were sewing uniforms for these players you know. And we're hiring coaches and training staff right and scouts. Right and we're we're we're we're scouting college. Women's basketball team title nine women's basketball and we're drafting flare. Were imitating this whole thing that the men have been doing for forever by imitating what the men have been doing. That's the one that might be a refrain here. I WANNA come back to that All with the hopes of founding this league that in some way has some parody with the men's league and sort of you know girls can sort of look at it and go. Oh look girls can do this too right okay but as a venture because it is a call of this you know. Why do people do what they do while they do it? Because they have something to gain by wise anyone. Why are any women playing basketball? Because economically speaking their skills were such that the possibility of making more money than they would otherwise made right with their basketball skills presented itself. Okay so why does the? Why does anybody invest in women's basketball? Why does why? Why is there league at all? We know why there's a men's league because it's profitable because everyone up the chain makes money. It's not just like Lebron. James makes money right. The League makes money. The owners make money the coaches make money right. Everyone's making money. There's not like some black hole on up the chain where everything's being sucked into and it's like a pyramid scheme. Where like right? Everyone's making money because the product. The product is desirable. People want to watch it. People want to consume it. People want to see it. People WanNa talk about it commentate on it re watch it you know as as evidence but as I just thought it was like the ESPN classic channel where an idea the sometimes he'll just go on Youtube watch ESPN class. You'll watch a basketball tournament finals or playoff series from like twenty five years ago. You just watch it. Why do you do that exciting? Why is it exciting? Pro a number of reasons but the products real good good basketball being played right right. It's exciting sorry. I don't really think about this as I was just getting ready to press re- record but I'm trying to imagine a scenario in which twenty five years from now there's some wnba playoff series replayed on the ESPN classics spoiler alert. It's not gonNA happen. I don't even know I don't even know the teams that were in the playoffs last year in the WNBA. All right now. I'm not trying to be punchy. I'm not trying to be antagonistic. I'm trying to illustrate for us. Something that's sort of cultural and economic. Why don't I know that because I don't care? Why don't I care because well the thing is not exciting enough for me to care? Now you might say well that's you that's just your personal taste right. But that's what economics is based in a bunch of individual personal tastes now the WNBA is is losing ten million dollars a year. You might say well who's footing that bill the NBA The NBA is subsidizing the Wnba to the tune of ten million dollars a year. Now I'm going to save 'cause 'cause 'cause the thinking among you we'll go we'll hold on a second. Why would anyone continued to do that year after year? It's not profitable it's not profitable. You open up a cookie shop and no one likes your cookies. You shut down the shop or change your recipe bright. That's how economics works. That's how markets work you can't make people want something they don't want you try to tailor what you're making to their tastes so that you can sell it and provide for your family and yourself right. That's just how it works. What's interesting about this clip? 'cause I've watched a lot of discussions of the pay gap in women's soccer and women's sports. Generally things like that. I'm GONNA do couple videos on that as well coming up but this was sort of new territory sort of interview with the WNBA player where an interesting proposal was made again. This is two years old. I just had I. Don't you know I've got kids man? I don't want to take in a lot of this stuff but a really interesting proposal was put forward by an a former. Nba Player not just a former NBA player. One of the greats. Okay the I never thought about but then the more I thought about I was like. That's a really good idea. All right and for all of my sort of like hand waving. Nay saying the very idea of women's basketball I had to SORTA step back and go step back a little basketball turban little basketball pump for either sort of step back right like Lucas Donncha James Harden except begging. Whoa WHOA WHOA. That's actually a good idea. And as much as I don't give two shits about women's basketball and probably never will that actually. If I'm honest that might help I mean do you understand. I'm not GonNa Watch women's basketball and you might see you might think if you're naive and your ignorant you're gonna be like. Oh you're being sex. No I'M NOT GONNA watch it. 'cause it's not exciting all right. I don't be. It'd be a very provocative here why why not. I'M NOT GONNA watch it but but I'm only able say that because I'm being brutally honest with you and to be brutally honest with you to continue to be brutally honest with you. I have to say that this suggestion was pretty helpful. I really had to think about this. Okay you know that you know given how everyone misses the mark with why. No one wants to watch this women's basketball and why it's a hopeless endeavour and why the NBA's losing ten million dollars a year trying to subsidize it again. Why they're doing. That is is nothing to do with sports. It's cultural. It's the logical social. We'll talk about another video. Okay but I really had to sort of step back and go. Oh that's as things go. That's a really good suggestion. And that is going to form the basis of the store discussion. That we're GONNA sort of analyze is video so without further ado. It's that one chick host the jump. I think it's on. Espn right and Tracy McGrady Right Basketball Hall of Famer Tracy McGrady And and and some chick from the WNBA Brianna while we'll find out all right. So this is a short discussion two or three minutes between them and Tracy. Mcgrady has a really interesting proposal for the problem that eternally plagues though women's Basketball Association. All right so let's get to it. I do this. The two thousand sixteen draft. Everybody Klatt who all right. Look I'm not gonNA Apologize. My sentiment reflects the common sentiment as is evidenced by the economic market. I'm not going to apologize. You know why because despite the Punchy nece and the caustic nature of my my perspective here my comments I got brand is best interest in mind and this is what these chicks don't understand. They WANNA make more money all right. The first step to making more money is understanding. Why you're not currently making the money. WanNa make right then. Then step too. So I know I'm sounding purposely provocative here by even just you know sorta like chiding her for the the the the unenthusiastic intro but really the of this the pointed this video is that this is really the first segment. I've watched on this subject and I mean just you know all the way if we abstract all the way out to sort of the general level of the gender pay gap not even sports. Okay we we can abstract all the way out to that level of generalization. This is really the first segment that I've watched were. There was really this profound to me. There was a positively constructive provocative suggestion put forward on how to rectify this thing in a very constructive way this. I guess this is really what drew me to this video. I'm now just sort of thinking about the wise it that of all the videos that I have on this topic. Why is this the one that I was like? I got to get started here. I got video on that because Tracy McGrady suggestion. You're going to hear in a minute is really interesting and I say this as a person who's like look. I'm never watching women's basketball. Nothing is ever going to get me to watch women's basketball. I say this as the market you want to corner all right. If you can get me you can get anybody. 'cause there's no ethin- way. I'm watching women's basketball have I have. I made the case all right so I'm making fun of the. You know the in-studio canned applause here but it but it's for a reason because someone's got to knock some sense shut up. I know what you're thinking into these women's heads about this topic because they're irrational. Shut up. I know what you're thinking. All right listen to this. Here's another piece to this. It's also fascinating to watch. The dynamic of the various men at the roundtable the oval table. Whatever you WANNA call it participating at various levels of acquiescence to the feminist machine all right so of course Tracy McGrady who is the more manly or man of the two men at the table right. Brian Windhorst is not exactly the most the mainly as personality and T- television commentary. Sports commentary. Whatever I'm not I'm not I'm not coming at the Guy I'm just saying You Know Tracy McGrady. Having played the sport having participated in the sport is going to be. It's going to draw love a little bit harder. Lies LITTLE MORE DISTINCT LINES? About what makes it what. It is all right But but even here at the outset Tracy McGrady's gotta throw in this little comment. He's gotta throw a little bone to what's her face. What's her name again? What their name again. Brianna something or other all right so she dies right okay. It's interesting isn't it? Women want equal treatment. They want equal pay. They want equal this. They want equal that but they really don't they really don't they want it where it's beneficial they don't want it where it's detrimental okay That that might be an angle to this. That is for another video or might come up at some point here but he's trying to throw a little like you know. Oh Yeah I enjoy watching her. No you don't you've never watched you've never watched a clip of Brianna. What's her face playing? Ball before the your producers prepped you to do the segment and that's a fact. Alright why because it's not exciting right. It's not important for economic reasons. No one's checking for the WNBA as evidenced by the fact that the NBA. Subsidizing it to the tune of talent ten million dollars a year. It's non port for that reason and as from a purely athletic purely sporting standpoints not important either because they don't compare to the men's league in any way shape or form all right. Let's be real but that being said again the reason I picked this clip because Tracy McGrady just pulls out of his head a suggestion that I'm like I had to really stop and I had to be like hey you know what as Cavaliers. I treat this topic as hand wavy at. You know what that means what you wave. Your hand is on me like yeah. Whatever you don't you don't you can't tell me nothing about this topic because I've thought it through and whatever you're going to say is not gonNA help the problem as hand wavy as I get about this topic. There's a suggestion put forward here. That man I'm looking at this girl. I hey you you ought to think about this. You really just better consider this for a moment. Let's go above blame yellowy. He's just look. He knows he's got something for he knows. This is a touchy topic. In general all right and he knows he's about to make a suggestion that's that she's GonNa as a woman woods equality she's going to Bristle at so he's just stoking her stroking her whatever. You WANNA call it. He's what a husband does do a wife because women operate on the basis of their emotions. And you got to build them up before you offer anything remotely reflecting constructive criticism criticism. Otherwise they will fall apart okay. So he's just stroking her. Oh Yeah Oh look he's even acquiescing to Rachel Nichols Bullshit point about. He wasn't the number one pick whereas she was. Yeah you were the number one pick of of of the throwaway the WNBA. Okay Tracy McGrady is one of the greatest players to ever play basketball. Let's be real okay. But he's being nice. He's being a good husband here all right. And he's just letting her have all the accoutrements of claim that she needs to get her confidence up to the level where she could talk comfortably about. This is so fun this is so funny but I really again. Sorry I really want you to hear what he's got to say in a second because up to the point that I just watched this clip which again is two years old. I never really considered this and I'm sure I'm probably behind the ball on that. I'm sure it's come up here and there in other discussions I just. I don't care right so but then it was set and I was like Hold on a second that is constructive suggestion and a promise. I'M GONNA quit pause in here in a second. We'RE GONNA get to it but I just want you to appreciate what's going on in the setup start with basketball we got a stroke or some more all you got you know. This is funny because the the women in the NBA and the women's soccer leagues are always complaining about the pay gap. And how little money they make. So now they're gonNA. They're gonNA big upper about her her wheels but our car right and they'RE GONNA. They're gonNA sort of like playfully gesture at an argument to the effect that well if you're not making as much money as you say you should be making. How'd you afford a car? That's nice whatever. Okay whatever okay. They're just. They're look on her face. This is this is what this is. What the woman craves right? I mean the woman generally I mean this particular woman right. She's just being. She's being lavished at the outset of this clip dope car and Tracy McGrady still at it. He's still he's just like man. I know I'M GONNA I'm GonNa say something later. This clip that she's going to have some beef with I'm just GonNa just. I'm just going to pour it on. I'm a late on thick early on. Tell us tell us which got here. Maserati Labonte lucile crossover. I love it added. She got an on Saturday. Nights drove pretty much everywhere as you come down here so he likes being here. I I. I wonder I wonder how much she really knows about that car. She's driving. I wonder how much of her desire for. That car was informed by her desire for that particular product and its quality versus the acclaim and the in the notoriety and the and the right whatever. I'm sorry it this is a very basic thing and I'm not coming at her. This is a very basic thing between between men's mentality and women's mentality. I'm not coming at her. I just we just need to be honest and say this is a guy who's not a car guy and there's a lot of a lot more pocar than I do all right all right. Let's be fair oaks. It's like yeah. I got the pink shirt on. Immigration is like. Yeah you got the picture all right now this is important Rachel Nichols. Let's look at your shirt. I like your shirt now. This okay I was Gonna I was going to hold off on the deeper level commentary in this video about what the WNBA exists to do if it does not exist to make money which clearly doesn't because it's never made a dime and yet it persists like Clinton. She persisted right. What does it exist to do? It's a cultural force at the bottom. It's fucking Lucifer doing his thing. Right via the useful idiots all right. What is their shirts? Say Popovich Kerr who are Popovich incur? They are two of the most outspokenly liberal coaches in the NBA who comment negatively on everything that happens in the political world as regards trump etc. Okay so this is just okay. Were were the were the NBA slash wnba. We gotta get an are pot shot against conservatives and this is this is it and it's just wrote. It's just a assumed that if you're in any way affiliated with us in a business sense or a fan sense you agree with us and if you don't. There's something with you. So this is all the subtle. Cultural insidious Insidious subliminal forces at work. Oh yeah these these two are regarded as gurus in this world. And of course if they have a political opinion it's valid because why oh I guess because they know a lot about basketball or something right. So she's just get. She knows that and she knows that they're gonNA line. Popovich incur are gonNA line with her like centrally feminist stance on on women's basketball generally and the salaries and women's basketball broadly speaking right. So she's wearing this shirt onto the segment right to sort of to to do the to do. The heavy lifting. Isn't this interesting? They want equal treatment to do the heavy lifting of the argument. Four her all right. Well if you're if you're going against me I mean you're going against stalwarts basketball luminaries like Popovich incur right but this is not a basketball issue. This is a rational issue. This is a cultural issue. This is an economic issue. This is a logical issue has nothing to do with basketball. All right but the silly woman with a silly grin on her face as got it as gotta muster all the argumentative force behind her that she can get without actually doing it herself so she got her. Popovich occur shirt on those two when it comes to philosophical issues when it comes to cultural issues are idiots. They're useful idiots but they're idiots all right but the NBA puts them forward is like geniuses as well. Ironically you know it's I guess it's not down with the Patriarchy because because here's a feminist with do Patriarch Center t-shirt whatever you feel fresher as the number one because we all the new number one coming up tomorrow night. How much pressure comes with that because the WNBA is always partly no pressure because no one cares out all that stuff that people say pressure. It's no pressure leading new faces but nobody even remembers the old faces. Okay it's the WNBA. No one's watching except for friends and family and friends and family. Let's be honest. Friends and family are watching because it's exciting because they love you and they wish that you weren't a lesbian. Absolutely anything sports at all. I don't know that she is. I'm just saying it's prevalent in that League in the League exists to promote its normalcy. All right all right is thus performance because they have no not. Everyone loves watching the storm. Play let me give you an example. I did not know that a team called the storm existed thirty three minutes ago. I think we're really not here a lot now. Look now look at night. You're stopping this video. Every ten seconds well lug it. Just look at it right. They are playing this clip of this non alleyoop alleyoop over and over and over again because this right here is as exciting as women's basketball gets and that is why the upper level that you see behind this frame is completely dark. What Nick 'cause no one sitting in it all right because no one cares so they're showing this pseudo alleyoop the alleyoop layup the touch pass alleyoop touchable over and over and over again because it's really hard to make this case empirically all right. This is why they usually make ideologically. And you can only sort of throw in some loose imperial. It's like why should anybody pay these players more? Well look what they can do can't do anything comparatively speaking right. It's just not exciting because men are more athletically gifted because then we're physically gifted than women and that's what sells the tickets. Why is this controversial controversial controversial under the past two years later but then again as far as we want so looking forward to doing all right now? Look everybody originals. Like all right we. We knew we queued up this whole segment for you. Tracy McGrady. Here's now's your time. You've buttered her up sufficiently. You've told your wife you'll love her. You told her you love her. You told her she's pretty right. But now it's like Hon. You're not cutting you gotTA. You GotTa stop at the sweatpants or you gotta give it up a little bit more or you got you. GotTa Try Right. And here's a way you might be successful. Sorry look at this. Watch Brian. I got a lot of respect for you. Man Look at the look on his face looking in his pink shirt. He's like go for it. Man Do it. I'm not doing it you do it. Sorry my headphones fell out there. Sorry no it is a shot at women's look how everybody is see. I fortunately don't have to be pushed aside all right because no one's listening to me. I don't care all right. I'm telling you the truth. The numbers bear it out. You know it I know it. No one's watching the stupid game. And you know what I say this as a man with three daughters and I don't really care as much as I love basketball if they ever pick up a basketball in their lives and I sure as hell don't want them sucked into a world where a bunch of girls older than them and coaches older than them and owners older than them and administrators and bureaucrats older than them are trying to pull them subtly into a cultural movement like less lesbianism via a game that their dad's played because their get their dad's couldn't differentiate between how you behave towards a child when you have a son and how you behave towards the child when you have a daughter I don't give a fuck all right. I say this as a man with three daughters. So fellas have some balls and stop expecting your daughters to have them the hall of fame and I was talking about The one something that gets look out here to do that. Little Feminine. I roll shoulder roll. Like I'll got here. It comes like oh. I'm just thinking of anything like he hasn't given this a lot of thought. This is so funny all right back it up because now I feel like I've interrupted his point. He's saying look. I got a suggestion for something you could do that. Might sort of ameliorate this this problem that you guys are always nagging everybody about namely that. You don't make as much money as the men. Now you're never gonNA make as much money as the men. Obviously but baby. This is my thought about something that might help my l. What's Tracy McGrady think is going to help with NBA Wmba basketball? I everyone that's not friends or family of someone in the League. So she's so he's like well how well we know the fans the real fans are GonNa Watch no matter what. But what about those other those other folks that we're trying to get to pull him it? I E everyone that would would even remotely begin to solve this insolvency this economic insolvency of the League namely no one's checking for this namely no one's watching it no one's paying for it. No one cares. Tracy McGrady is trying to be helpful. Husband here all right. I know I keep putting this sort of like analogically. Metaphorically in marriage terms he followed the Bible says husbands dwelt with your wives according to knowledge. Juries McGrady has accounted for in his. Mind what this woman needs to hear versus what she wants to hear. And he's doing his damn dead level best to tell her what she needs to here in in a way that she might at least while she made us want to hear it she might be able to pal it it. He's being a good husband and the goal to at least nine nine and a half. Now I say this as a dude who's never dunked on ten. I've dunked a volleyball on ten foot. I've never dunked many basketball. I've never dunked regulation of basketball and regulation Tempur Room. Tracy McGrady suggestions. Why don't we bring down the Rim in women's basketball name? I think we'll what what's that why. It's very obvious because the game lacks excitement and one of the fundamental like machine like the exclamation points of excitement and a basketball game is the sort of like climactic Cathartic explosion that is one player dunking on another. It's not just another two points. It's a very very very psychological two points and it's important to the game now. This is actually a really interesting suggestion. And I'm ashamed to say I've never really considered it. Okay and I don't think that this Brianna what's her name is really considering it and I think that she is so informed an informed by an infused with her her cultural feminism that she can't see the merit in this idea the charrette ability in its suggestion by Tracy McGrady and it really is an interesting. It's feasible maybe. Maybe there's other reasons not to do it but it's a very. It's a very fecundity suggestion. All right you ladies. You should know what the word fecundity means. Metaphorical it comes from your biology. Because I think for somebody that don't watch though. Uba everybody fall to have women. Don't on other women that lead. Make it worth mildly worth somewhat worth watching now. Look at her bristle at the suggestion. Because what's implicit in. The suggestion is people. Don't actually want to watch you play basketball. And that's why the the WNBA is taking ten or sorry the NBA's taking ten million dollars of its profits and pouring them down a drain just so you can keep doing it. Gay guys that. Don't Wash W. Bryan win horse and things shares like man. I can't believe you just said that dude. You're a better man than me. One that's relevant. No one was watching you play on a ten foot hoop and no one is watching you. Play on ten foot hoop. The suggestion is along the lines. Of what might cause people to care about you playing on the ten foot hoop that you've been playing your whole life or shooting a ball into a hoop your whole life at a suggest suggestion okay. It doesn't matter what you've been doing. What you've been doing is not working right. That's a that's a valid point. I mean look again I say this as a kid who grew up playing basketball love dunking and me and my friends would. We found that one playground lot in the in the neighborhood that had to lower rims. For whatever reason and we'd go. There was some nights of the week where it was like. We're not GONNA play ball we're just GONNA go dunk so we'd go to the hoop that was nine feet taller nine and a half feet tall. We throw down our dunks right. It was all about who had the best hopsitals creative dunk right right right and every once in a while instead of just dunking on that Rim we would play a game on that room and you know what it was fucking exciting because it went from a bunch of little dudes. You know just it. Suddenly became is suddenly became like an NBA game where someone might get dunked Donna. Any moment and the level of drama increased and the level of tension increased and the level of excitement increased. And you know what all those things make increase revenue and you know what revenue increase brings profit increase? And you know what profit increase brings salary increase? Which is what you say you want. She's got a valid point. I've been practicing this way my whole life but the counterpoint is obvious. It's not working now. What not no. That's a fallacious argument. You go so what I'm on. So we're we're only playing basketball to Deng. No no you're playing basketball to exemplify an perfect all the facets of the game but clearly some of them have more gravitas with the fan than others so here like a good husband. I'm offering you suggestion about your behavior. That is ultimately beneficial to you and your so defensive that you cannot see the merit in it. So I'm only good for sex is what she's saying. This is all right to the translation. We just transposed the metaphor here right so this is good for no but it is one of the primary functions of this relationship this activity right right and you want to be. Is it your complaint that nobody wants? Sorry this obvious. Like look how defensive. She's being only good for that. So that's all we're good for now but it is. It is what is a draw. It is what draws people to you now you keep claiming that you want people drawn to you right. Put some lipstick on no. It's not seeing again. Paul in the Bible husbands go with your lives. According to knowledge skill levels not off the chart the skill level in the NBA the WNBA is not off the charts the skill level in the NBA is off the charts. Now either were either. We're talking about the same chart so we're not if we're talking about the same charts. The Not off the charts if done by different charts fine the skill level in the WNBA is off the charts for a girl. But that's not what they want. They want equality all right far. Reagan and entertainment do you. Do you WanNa make more money. Look look look look. She knows she knows Rachel. Save me what did I say earlier about the relationship between these? Two dudes rising easy. Good Dude Bit. Speak speak plainly. Brian be a man tracy. Mcgrady has a point even he even he had to dumb it down and couch and all this complimentary nonsense. He's got a point. I'm amazed that look this is no. I'm not big up myself. I hadn't really thought about. This is a good point. Changed the parameters of the game so that the athleticism displayed can flourish against the constraints of those parameters. He's done he's made look he got in and he got out. This is A. He's a smart dude. I made my point. I'm not making any of that. Made it back to just just stroke in this girl's ego because because I want to be on TV tomorrow. And I know who runs this town? I know who runs his culture? The white witch. I'm sorry did you see that? I feel like I should back this up. Did you see that ball? Can I back it up with moving frame here? Did you see that ball at the peak of its shot that ball at at the last minute? The Arc of its shot the arc of its parabola revealed that there was no one in the stands tasks like the fifteenth row. Just look see if we can get off. Empty stands because they got that framed. Get Okay there's people there on now college Notre Dame they came. I have no idea what this girl's talking about because no one's watching women's basketball lower the rams to gain winners in the final four. And you can't ask much more than that. I think personally for me. I realized that the past three national championship. Now look what's happening now. Everyone's disseminating shoveling. They're trying to get lost in sports history and to sort of like ameliorate the tension of this conversation. But we don't do that here we are. We are preoccupied with the tension of the conversation. Because that's where the gold mine is. That's where discoveries are made. That's truth lies okay. So now this is all just going to be on. Like they're just they're just stroking in her ego talking about sports history talking about reason accomplishment etcetera etcetera etcetera. But that's not. That's not the gunman that's not the Gusto. Lower the rims. The game will be more exciting. More people will come. Potentially and you might make more money. Elevate because it shows how actually is to have A. Hey we did let us down reminded cares a little bit of the subject with all the people are just GonNa leave it but in a winning for a rose definitely not seems to look you know what it's like winning four in a row on the playground elementary school. No one cares because it's kids playing on a playground and it's not the highest level of basketball and it's not exciting because what's being done. There is not defeat that it is elsewhere given the other athletic you know the athletic abilities and expertise so so again. Change the parameters. Change the constraints so that so that the the action up against those constraints as more exciting. That's a very interesting solution. And I you know I understand why Tracy McGrady had to sort of a couch in all this sort of complimentary sort of like. Hey you might want to consider this. It's a good suggestion. Honestly it's like the first constructive suggestion that's not like culturally marxist-based like hey just give us this because we want it. Because you're because you're a jerk and your cat and your racist for not giving it to us is like the first constructive suggestion along these lines. I've ever heard people realize this is really hard finding this year. That was it. I didn't watch it. Did you watch it? No one watched it. Nope just fire foreign no matter. If that were true people would watch it. And if people were watching it there would be more revenue see. The market doesn't lie. You'd know if that were true. All of this is fluff talk. That's it all right. I I take my point all right. We'll see you next time.

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Anything Is Possible

"Today is opening tip. Knicks fans had a mid break race. It's New York. So of course they put on tens and ran across. The court is taking a little all too far trace over she while she's shoot around with fans on so what. This is the thing now in New York are you saying. Are you saying when you're asking if Tim's is the thing I guess that's not possible. You are not asking that question in two thousand nineteen. I'm a forty year old dad. I've got nothing going on when the seventy two years old vic you out of the House though says impossible that you just ask that question are they. Are they having some kind of renaissance also. I don't understand how he's trying to make it better by being like. Are they back when I was like. Is this even to begin with welcome to jump. Nothing's changed I'm Rachel Nichols alongside host of the low. Oh Post podcasts. Zach Lowe. Look it's the basketball hall of Famer and High School baseball phenom. I like to remind people Tracy McGrady will join US slater in today's show and coming up Carmelo Anthony. Officially a trailblazer says his approach is quote totally different. This time we will get into what he can provide. As the is expected did to make his debut. FIRST THEM SO basketball's most important proverbs are not written in any rulebook and they don't always come from who do expect there's ball don't lie. Thanks to the poet laureate Rasheed Wallace. There's practice we're talking about practice. Thanks to our greatest living American Allen Iverson and from latrell sprewell quote. I've got a family to feed spoken as he turned down. Twenty one million dollars contract offer and then of course. There's Kevin Garnett masterpiece which I mean. Only he can do it justice so hard possible when Keiji screamed anything is possible back in two thousand eight. He had no idea that in the decade plus that followed in the NBA. That would actually really become true. There was the rise position lists basketball. The change in the geometry of the court began to extend well past the three point line unicorns would come to stampede. Across the land shooting threes perimeter players leading their teams and rebounding fifty point games used to be where ORCAS now with the increased pace of the game. They were like dandelions. We've had four in the past month alone and so of course now in this totally different basketball universe for so many of the previous laws also physics. Just don't apply. We regularly seem James Harden delivering four point. Plays like he's getting out of bed. He was working against porn. Little at the start. Last night's game and a little later in the half. Yeah I mean Look James Harden is not interested in your double team. Thank you remember when Tracy McGrady was on the show during training camp and said He. You wouldn't be surprised. If Harden averaged forty game this season. We'll get to that a little later. But James is averaging thirty nine point two at the moment and he's shooting percentages still haven't quite rounded into the form they were in last season. Which should terrify basically everyone after the Game Russell Westbrook made headlines when he chided NBA fans for normalizing hardens and greatness? Personally though. It's what Mike Dan. Tony said afterward that caught my ear of loss for words. And you don't you you the more you can do that you can't I mean yes that's basically everyone's reaction Dantonio is right. Hardened took the three point line. That steph curry broke and has been using the pieces like balled up shreds of paper. You're I might launch into an office trash can right now hardened actually misses more three pointers than anyone else in the NBA is even even attempting. That's insane Still it's important to note that he's not the only one who is running amok in this anything is possible world. Do you see Luca Danni last night. Eight forty two points. Eleven rebounds twelve assists. That is his sixth. Triple double in the Mavericks. Thirteen games so far this season and again forty two points the only only person other than him to knock in a forty point plus triple double before he turned twenty one years. Old Is Lebron James. So that's some company. Luca was off to a monster monster start to the game. He had seventeen guys in the first quarter alone. Yeah just a little bit just a little of that and he finished with plenty of fire to dropping in this three seal the win for Dallas Honestly Lucas rebounding has been just as impressive as scoring on this run. CHECK OUT THIS SECRETS AGAINST CLEVELAND. He defends Tristan Thompson Simpson bigger than him gets aboard initiates. The offense gets the board again. Kicks it out to Hardaway Junior. And when there's nothing doing their lucas just gonNA drain the three himself. I mean come on again the way today's NBA works lends itself more to all of this with more spacing on the floor. Guys like Luca. Oh can more cracks rebounding in the first place but getting to watch Luca take advantage of all of it along with everything else has been just phenomenal on the words of Rick Carlisle. This guy can do anything he wants to on a basketball court And you know he's having just one of those magical runs right now and it's it's a phenomenal thing to watch. It's a phenomenal thing to be a part of And you know his teammates You know we're all just kind of along for the ride here. This really is such a truly fun time to be an NBA fan every time you turn on the TV something magic can happen. Anything is truly possible. It's only November so Tracy Luca does not turn twenty one until February. He's already putting up these crazy numbers on a good team. Despite is you just wait. He's not twenty one. Yeah is he ready to contend for. MVP This season. Oh He's considering all right. I mean the man is averaging thirty eleven and nine and thirteen game so far. I am highly impressed with this. This guy I'm impressed with Dallas Mavericks Organization for CNN. You know making a trait to get this guy trading The pig that would possibly have landed trae young but this guy I mean they saw it and for Carlisle to say he's you know he can do everything on the basketball court and he's even you know shocked by what he's seeing him. He coached wanted greatest players. That every played this game ski right for the amount of years. He coached him so having Luke be his successor. I mean this is this is unbelievable. The things that he's doing in what impresses me most averaging eleven rebounds. Liz Not Athletic Letty guys. He can't jump links. He's out there. Averaging Eleven rebounds everything the Basketball Court I I love watching them play then they need is rebounded to because they're not agree rebounding. He's the best rebounder on their team. Would you vote for. MVP is you know you gotTa list five guys. He is fifteen games in. He is one hundred percent on the ballot. Now I'm not sure he's above Hardin. Lebron this may be made the eye of the beholder kind thank. He's one hundred percent on the ballot and if he keeps playing like this. It's it really hard. Vote at the end of the season. Because what he's doing I mean the numbers are the numbers what he's doing is MVP basketball. He's your number three number three right now. Run JAANUS and hit the four James Harden you put during harden his shoe he struggled in the first couple games of the season horrible horrible shooting shooting percentage but lucas been consistent. I mean James Putting up numbers but he also is averaging twenty five shots a game. One of the most fun guys to watch. And I'm glad you highlighted that at that sequence in Cleveland because it the shooting the step backs in the passing that gets all the attention but he does in those little in between moments when he doesn't have the ball little given go kinda the stuff that's where his brilliance really shines through almost more than the other stuff I just love that sequence because he he just did everything their rate did everything we have the chart here so there are only three twenty one year olds and Luca will be twenty one. By the time in Vivo happens in the last thirty years who have made that top. Five Jackie's Zack is referring to an MVP voting local. It is so it's it's good company saying join them to believe if sustain this for the whole season and the Dallas Mavericks makes the playoffs. You have a good chance of breaking nets out to can we just point out the chart. A how ridiculous it is that Tim Duncan was on the MVP as a rookie. Tim Duncan I know he was twenty twos a four year college. He walked into the League and was an MVP candidate that does not. I hope that Lebron doesn't happen now. He walked onto a good team. That had like one year tanking right. Tim Duncan is just ridiculous. All Time ridiculous player. Yeah thank you for letting US nobody had clued in on that he's so quiet and unassuming. Tim Duncan versus. Tim Duncan versus Kobe. Like he's he's he's people are gonNA underrate. Historically I coaching resume. Now I want to move back to James Harden because I remember this wager that was made on our show about on a month ago between the two of you can can we call that up. Sure why not in this is this is crazy thinking this way I actually think James Harden Mike Average forty points this year now with Russia. Listen I'm trying to tell you if he averages forty points a game and I realized how dangerous you can pick any restaurant you want any restaurant you want. Okay wow I realized that's a that's a bad I'm going into dangerous territory. This nice restaurant and there's a little bit of disparity thirty nine point two I'm hanging on that point. Damai Mike Texting texting rockets officials urging them to tell James Harden your assist totals getting a little low. Maybe am I trying to poison the well on this. This bet who else who else you say. I'm just I'm trying. I'm using my insides win. This but look you can pick any restaurant you want. I'm going to own it. Picky you can pick any one you want. I can't. It's not going great. The great not going well for you because again tracy shooting percentages are still not at the level of last year so once he gets back into the form he was in last year. I think it'd be difficult for him to get back to the form he was in last year. Because he's taken so many mini threes this year so the the the Mount of threes that he's taken obviously he's got his percents to bring his percents down but I'm not surprised by this. He's opened open offense where his uses rates rate is higher than anybody's he shooting the ball twenty five times. He's a guy that knows how to get the free to the free throw line. He's He's averaging twenty seven points off a free throws and threes alone. I mean in today's game if anybody can do it James Harden in this offense Russ you're an MVP. Okay Eric Gordon when you come here when you come comeback from injury you gotta get role in the team your scoring. Let's go now the D- truthfully though I said this yesterday like it's amazing. How many how many fans don't seem to like watching heart and play here coaches they? I don't WanNa play that seller. My my thing is stop. It do something to stop it. Stop you stop it because guys is that wherever you because the math works and no one can stop. It's absolutely insane. What he's able to move without a no? It's not I mean because he's a great one on one basketball player right and he surrounded by shooters. You can't double him because he's a great playmaker but teams figure it out in the playoffs. I mean Bill. Drake has figured it out and play. That won't win a championship with James Harden doing this. Kobe said I'm saying there's a lot of people saying I don't think that's going to carry them so a championship now. The warriors are gone as we know them right and they were able to throw durant igwe dollar Klay like three great great defenders. Adam you look at the landscape of the Western Conference the obviously the clippers was. PG are going to be able to do that but did that. Super team has gone and I agree with you. He hasn't won in the playoffs. He had the spurs meltdown the season before. CPI came but the rockets were the only team to even compete with the warriors in the Western Conference. The only team that even close they don't get enough credit for that plays on Friday night. The rockets and the clippers so we will get to see some of this coming up pretty soon. I will say I think James can do it because you talk about three just three point percentage is not even where it was last year so even if he continues to take this volume of threes if he just gets that back up to where it was and the pace that this rockets team is playing with so much more. He's just getting more cracks at it. My money is entrees. Include you. You're out Nelson. We'll see coming up as irving continues to Miss Games and the nets continued to lose will Brooklyn recover. We will that so make mislead to make this amazing. It's a it's a makeup mislead as C. J. gotTA flaunted make trickery Manual Moody drives fakes. Graphic laughing Rondo is. He's playing for them. That's not oh jerk long ro now. Here's the original dives still the best all the gold standard in you used to like three three times again. Be Able to the this offense Robert Covington takes shot under the rim stays on the floor while the jobs are on offense gets up. Well he couldn't watch what takes charge from ready go bare. I like it. Cherry Picking Cherry picking whenever the reverse of Cherrypicking remember when the Kings wanted to play four on five and Cherry pick. This is the opposite. Good for eighth is sacrificing that he was really hurt I oh I thought that he was like really a lot of pain and turns out he just wanted to lay one on Rigobert. Most guys magically recover when they get the ball he magically recover over to take a charge from a giant human being. That's pretty gotta buy him dinner. He sacrifice everything now. Make Dad's Blazers Rookie Nazir little. This is amazing. Jason gives up to four point place James Harden last night so you want at the top of the show that one in the first quarter one in the second quarter and this prompted sears. Dad To tweet tweet. I'm beat James Harden Blank when I see him maybe not I believe the dad is tall rate produces seeds. You can tell me right. Eight six eight years. Dad is six eight maybe leave that one draft. Yeah See. That's that's a tough call though like. How are you supposed to defend here? Nobody knows this is not a FAO. Wow that's not a file to landlord landing. I know I know what you're doing. But that's what that is missed. The Ram Bucks Bosio honest drawing a foul early in the game has to the line and he air balled the free thought. Janas has been cotton called. He's airball view and in the same game. He said like four in a row so oh he's he's talking on it. Is that game. Last night. He dribbled up until like four really confident three pointers and he's airborne free throws it's very strange. It's it's like you're trying really hard right. And we all know sort of the pressure he puts on himself. He's great. It's also Wendell. Junior was fantastic makes his vision. Russian remember thirty two year old Danny Green put back dunk. Oh I mean that was ridiculous words a state again. Let's eating in your we. Also pre is green drug tested by the NBA drug test him to hire us off the ground catalyzed the drug testing surprise surprise. NBA would like to remind you that the drug testing testing unit is contracted out by the League office response to bet. Danny Green wasn't on that list. Oh put his name down between that and Caruso over the summer when you win the fake photo got out and they started the league. Has it out for the Lakers. You take the call from Tim Frank because because I'm here to remind you that it is an independent service that does not drug test in response to place from the night before. Despite what happened it was a great great highlight. Let's talk about the nets less good highlights Goes Your Pacers fans because the patients bootham out last night New Jersey. Look at that just throwing it in a New Jersey has now lost for glass five after the game. That's head coach. Kenny Atkinson quote below average teams are inconsistent. And and that's what we are right now. I want to remind you kyrie Irving has missed the last two games. He's actually GONNA miss the next game with a shoulder impingement tracy. How concerned are you at that Brooklyn very concerned Because this doesn't look good morning curry's resume you go to Boston Celtics. And there are some rumbling and just inconsistencies. You know coming out of there. Then you come here to Brooklyn I know we. You know you guys are not playing without Katie but the way these guys were playing last year meaning other guys in how confident in the fun that they were having seen him on the sidelines. Dancing and just enjoying basketball. All of that is out the window. And I'm not blaming Kyrenia. This is like the chemistry is gone. The NGELO Russell was not there. No more Kazlo vert was playing well. Last season he went out with an injury de Ngelo stepped up to an all star level. It's like they never really lost a beat. What is like now careers in the fold and this this team is just completely lost? They DEF- they're not defending They're slow in transition. They're turning the ball over and it's it's not a good look look to nets one forty two games last year with a career year from their point guard. They just they were an acute story. Did just weren't that good good. And I understand the point guard got upgraded but they were like just a forty two win team. Their best player is going to miss the entire year right. We're GONNA forget about that. He's in street clothes every game. They're out there. Second and third players are both injured right now Liberte in Cairo. They have a huge hole. Power Forward Rhodesians. Cool roots was their best hope to kind of fill that he's out of the rotation tation like you know it's not shocking that you throw a couple of injuries like that into the mix in in. This team is a very good. But I'll tell you I might worried. Never ever worry in the east by five eight and a half game out of the playoffs behind the Charlotte Hornets. WHO WHO lose every game by a million points and get everyone by one point so the opposite of their funds onto that? I can't blame career for games. He's not even in Tracy. I'm not blaming you even play news miscellaneous. Hey Hey I know I would. I would like to see him be healthy because we would like health for everybody me NBA and because Kyri and the nets are supposed to go back to Boston Garden decks squeezed from back to When we come back after this break tonight Carmelo Anthony is returning? He says his approach is totally different. Your friend Jersey number also totally different double zero skies because their whole Summer Brandon Roy. We will discuss the new mellow and a new team next Friday. Hey what a double header we will have for you on. ESPN and the APP. Demar derozan leading the Spurs against Joel Embiid and the sixers and then in the last segment harden the rockets taken on by the clippers. Select for this our coverage begins with NBA countdown at seven o'clock Eastern. Welcome back to the jump I am now joined by our MBA front office insider. I mean I'll hasn't Zach Lowe still here Tracy McGrady Hall of Famer still here and tracing just just a little a little prediction traces. On a good roll this season prediction. This is back in January about Carmelo. Anthony take a look psychic but I look at it seemed like Portland Throughout trebling mccollum and Daimler. These guys have been pretty much. It's treading water over the last years. I think if you put a guy I liked camello anthony coming off the bench and provide offense mellow can get you sixteen at twenty points. Would you like to know why the show show is built around Tracy McGrady Spot on as usual blazers officially signing mellow to a one year. Two point. One six million dollar contract this morning it will become fully league. Guaranteed if Anthony isn't wave by five o'clock eastern on January seventh on Monday mellow posted a video on his youtube page sharing his thoughts. The always kept my employment. It just didn't work out of the towns but now seemed like a perfect opportunity. What happened before is the past? I can't dwell on that. I learned from that. Ah this happened at a point in town my life where I do have a lot of clarity understanding of different situations and just life and include totally different. His approach is totally different. He says he's been activated expected to play tonight versus the Pelicans the new number number by the way he will wear double zero had a long explanation as instagram. About the beginning an end in University of that number. So you can look at that other news though. Portland and Damian Lillard will not play tonight he is out with back spasms so do you expect what mellow says to ring true. A different approach now that he is with Portland and been given this extra chance with that approach is I don't know what the different approaches however what I do know is they need some scoring and they they need help. They're struggling right now in five nine And and it seems to me. They made it to the Western Conference finals last year. And it seems that they're they're they're ceiling with these guys and you know I don't know why they made so many changes in the off season bringing in different Pieces that fit their puzzle. But it hasn't really worked out Amino Evan Turner. I thought those guys were key to them to their success and they're not there anymore Mellow I don't know what he can give them. He's been out of the game for what a year now. I don't know what he has left. But he can't come in and be standing on a perimeter mellow like. They're going to need him to be mellow if he could provide that and I just don't know what he has left. I think the big problem is as two things one is the blazers have yes. They do need extra scorned. Join but there are bigger problems than that so it will be like if I broke my ankle and then I'll side of coffees of cough medicine but but the ankle. That's probably the more pressing concern right now than than the cough and the other part of it is hand to you. It's all falling apart right. Then the other thing is even if we assume okay mellow can help them with scorn. Is he at that place right now. Basically as you said we haven't seen him playing thirteen months and the last time we saw him play. I know the system. mm-hmm was agreed. Didn't get a fair chance all that stuff but he didn't look great. So is this enough. And then there's a third component. I think we'll talk about in a little bit. which is what are the blades is really neat? I assume when he says changed my approach he's talking about the kind of strategy and take an offense. I actually don't think he got enough credit. In Oklahoma City he played like team. USA Mellow Mellow in Oklahoma City. He took five catches shoot. Three's a game only one pool up three by far clear heart. He played offense the way that everyone had been asked him to play in his twilight. This is is GonNa sink or swim Whether he's playable defensively. Because you know this last two times we've seen them in the playoff series that the thunder loss to Utah and then last year again. Everything you just I said about the situation in Houston not being great. That's fair but if he's not playable defensively. It doesn't really matter on horrible BEATHA team without him. So why would it make it worse. You don't WanNa make it worse I mean at LE- At least you give some scorn. They look there's clearly a role for him there. I'm just all of this. Hubbub is not going to mean anything goes out there and you can't do anything to me. That's and that's a big thing. The Blazers have huge problems. They have elected big after Khan's goes down. They're terrible defensively. They're off one of the worst defensive rebounding teams in the League. These are all super concerns. Right now get your called Anti. That's not what we were our town of other options out there. That's not looking a larger the league's untradable before December failed. This was basically like hey. We need a band-aid and a shot of energy right now to Tracy's point it's not like I mean I guess they could make the he can make the defense worst but how much worse talking about and look they. I made a gamble with bringing Hassan whiteside in. Because they wanted to say hey ner. He wasn't GonNa be ready really until the Middle Liz. Even then we don't know what he's GonNa come back and be an Hassan whiteside. Maybe can help us. They give that depth to get him and frankly it just hasn't worked great. I'm not sure Carmelo Anthony has to be responsible for your the problem. He's not a Carmelo James Cardinal Richards or whatever he's called little anthony so when he comes in and things don't get fixed he's the one that's GonNa get. Get the blame a lot. Everyone's excited what is due to come in and save the day. Think he's GonNa say what are we talk about that. We're just talking about. That's all I want for so I wouldn't be trashing the way that's what we're saying. So what was the expectations for. Portland's this year Tebessa take back to winning a championship. Hates off the boat. I'm talking about what we talked about. I'll let it better than the clippers. No we miss the playoffs. That's that's what we always say the injury that collins she was a back breaker everything was built around the idea that Hassan one is a a gamble. But if it doesn't it's cool 'cause we got that Collins who's pretty much are five of the Larry Pieces Man. Evan Turner turn laughs and then you have one thing go wrong then it becomes a huge problem. That's four you're watching. The I did a whole thing about the G. League and I know everyone wants to scar with the players in the G. League there are we see them all over the league. Maybe a Portland had an affiliate would have guys in in the in the A- An owner who has a lot of money maybe she will consider doing that Zach. Thank you for joining us today. You'll be back with US tomorrow. Take a quick break so you stay with us because coming up. We're we're GonNa talk about missing the last three games with a knee injury doc. Says he's not concerned about his health. But should we be on and also. 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He's really good. And the mavs are hosting the warriors then itself it's clippers from across the street here at Staples Center. Our coverage begins Stephen as pre-game sportscenter at seven o'clock doc on ESPN and the APP. Welcome back to the jump. The clippers do in fact planning. Espn tomorrow but let's take a look at that game. They played against the thunder last night. This was very memorable late in the fourth thunder down one Danilo Gallinari gets a foul call. That would have sent him to the line probably would have tied or won the game. Doc River's entire entire loose faces in this are just I mean this is art right here. Look this is just the faces so of course they do the challenge which they hit save shock town coming peration. They decided in fact there was no foul on the play duck. Doc is feeling a little bit better right and this is what he said. After the game change my opinion I think the challenge. It's amazing there. You know the dot came out last week and said I hate the coaches that that were like I hate it I hate. I can't do it now. He's changing his opinion. Are you doing the same to scream for forty five minutes and then it's getting worse like that. It's is it good for the League. I don't know I do not. I got the guys to pull up the numbers and thirty. Eight percent of the calls. Being overturned forty-one percent are being confirmed as clearly freely were right and then to twenty one percent. which was there isn't conclusive conclusive evidence that we're just gonNA Err on the side of the rest but thirty percent is really high in a number as itself and then when you look at the entire season last week it was at thirty six before that it was lower and at the beginning of the obvious he was it was pretty low. So I'm shot that they're this many calls uh-huh are getting wrong. Well you can't you can't spend those numbers out. It's not like they're getting thirty. Thirty percents particularly controversial controversial. Plays in particular controversial plays thirty percent of them. Eighty percent of them are clearly clearly wrong. Not Hey could have been. This could have been that with thirty thirty eight percent of them. These guys are looking at and saying. Oh Yeah we missed that one. So I think the combination of that number being high makes the coaches you you hear dachshund. Oh yeah getting the wrong all the time like this. Why are we wasting time? I think I'm I'm being whatever man I don't like it John. I've seen like this agreements car right here. Clearly we see it with our own eyes and they go to the Monir the Red Sea the same thing and it's still turned out into Milwaukee's favor of that. That is yeah. I don't like it so they could do without it. It's going to be some inconsistencies. Just like the refs are on their calls so my thing is this in general Oh philosophically. I don't like it because I don't like watching People Watch TV. Let's just play the game. Make the call. I don't have one extra one on top of the ones that the already review very slowly. I might add Tim Frank about to hit me right now. We're doing those bastards again soon busy today. Look I like it when they get calls right so something that it gets calls right that only has one time game or maybe two times if both teams use it I think is good. I think that maybe they should change it. So that coaches can only use it in the fourth quarter because because one thing I have watched that coaches getting pressure from their own players and I saw it with a superstar the other night. I'm going to take out names to protect the not so innocent who clearly really pressured his head coach in call and the second quarter to be like. You'd better challenge that you'd better challenge that. And then they use it up and then maybe it wasn't the best that was in the final minute the clippers needed it because You know I think It'd be really more respected and I. I think I will take you know really great pride into Senate if it was like the last five minutes of the game because that's really we're gains really deciding in matters. Addison most not in the first three quarters from fourth. I could go even the last five minutes. I like that. See We've solved people. We've solved it. Let's talk about Leonard because he missed his third consecutive game. Last night at Bruce left knee. Kawhi has missed over one third of clippers game so far this season now. Some of that was planned back to backs. Some of that has been since he collided alighted knees. I believe in that game against the rockets is yet to play game alongside Paul George. I guess it's Nice. If you've got both Paul George and Kawhi Leonard Win Games. No matter who's was playing but should the clippers be concerned about long-term I mean it's funny because publicly say one thing yesterday Staples Center. It's kind of like. We're glad we're glad Paul's back right because now we know two things one is that they weren't lying. The League wasn't covering them when they said it's not load management. There's a serious injury injury here. And he needs the rest he. I think that the injury was exacerbated during the game and I was at that game and to me why I didn't look like himself is it. Looks like he was laboring that knee. I don't know if it was because of something that happened in game four. He's dealing with an issue that we don't know about all right or you know I mean look. We saw him pained at times during offs and because he managed it during the season he was able to win an NBA finals and NBA Finals Mvp. We I am limping a bit. When he made his free agency visits right? Remember coming off the plane and there's an element of the injury. He was eventually diagnosed with when he very tumultuous year with the Spurs that appears to be a chronic condition. I'm not a doctor but I think it is something that he's going to be dealing with these off season season Despacito. So you know of any surgery he had or needs. I think that it's more of just something that requires to be managed so again. It's nice to have Paul George just to roll out all fresh and go up to fourteen must must be absolutely. I would love to see those guys. Let's move on to the timberwolves. Who picked up an impressive win in Utah last night? Karl Anthony towns continues to Wo- Rocket Twenty nine points seven threes which tied right burr career high for those who've been following our program. You know about our rang Kendrick Perkins and Perkins T.. Wolves temperature meter is very famously day. After Karl Anthony towns don't sleep on us. He said onto my temperatures sixty degrees. I'm having the box fan on will last week. He turned ended up seventy jump and then last night per tweeted eastern on the thermostat up to seventy five degrees out of deference to towns sounds and the timberwolves so we know perk is warming up to the world's are you buying them as a playoff team because really. That's what we're talking about time at Minnesota right now. Who See? We got golden state out of the picture. Playoff parents. Portland is looks ugly right now. Yep I love what I'm seeing from cat. I really L. E. Love. I know Andrew has been for the last couple of games but this is Andrew wiggins that I've been buying into buying. It's here here. It's here I see a different player. I see a more assertive player more aggressive player. More confident player. I don't see the floater. That I used to see this do is taken over gains. When he's out there? I love what I'm seeing from. Andrew Wiggins is going to stay. Cat is going to continue to do his thing. Because we know he'll bona fide superstar and and they're gonNA make the playoffs because of those two boys right there Wiggins continues to play like this then short but forgive me for being the skeptic is I've seen but I seen happen I've seen him Ho. You haven't seen this. I haven't seen this but I've seen stretches where he looks engaged and he's onto it and then he comes back and then it goes away. You haven't seen mystery it's fishing game. Gets by all star break still focused like that. Then I'll change my mind but I'm I'm going to be Mr Mr Skeptical right now. Though the injuries to the other teams definitely help them but again they also have to come in Dallas plus they got to fight all phoenix and just ahead of standings right now Sacramento starting to have a kind of a revival there so it's still not set in stone but yes they're the plan better. I mean to me Karl. Anthony towns is always going to be phenomenal. I mean he is all NBA he. He's the difference. Is Andrew Wiggins this Andrew Wiggins or the Andrew. Regan's you're scared of and that will decide they get in the playoffs. We'll see love it. Now see coming up Chris. Paul showcasing skills for a potential all trade down the road. This season stick around for that. He's at the staple center two nights in a row. Are you still wearing your button. Downs untucked and hoping for the best. Then stop it seriously. Seriously because traditional shirts weren't meant to be worn untucked and honestly it shows untuckit believes in helping guys look sharp and feel oh casual. That's why their shirts followed the perfect length and were designed for guys of all shapes and sizes. Taller short slimmer athletic build. UNTUCKIT has the perfect fit because everyone deserves the shirt. That looks great untucked. And you shouldn't have to go to a Taylor to get one with untuckit. Huge variety of colors and patterns. 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He told me that the Internet Internet plus two years in a row doesn't doesn't just have to be come out of nowhere to being leaked presence. It can be up to superstar also just just saying let's talk about buddy he'll because you'd find twenty five grand for kicking the ball into the stands on Sunday. Marcus Morris Marcus smart missed the floater in the final seconds reckons gave Sacramento the win your weight. So I'm basically about to ashtrays if it's fair to find buddy which is kind of your own. Is it okay to leave the house gate open. Do you think that I mean how did his pat's NFL level punt. I was really looking for call from NFL all the way he did this twice. We didn't show the first that was only a ten thousand dollar fine by the way All right let's talk about the thunder because they are in La for back-back boss at the Clippers of course very dramatically last night. Chris Baldo had twenty two points. Four Times four steals against his old squad. They will take on the Lakers tonight. Now the thunder will be eleven point underdogs against the Lakers. I but still two nights in La Spotlight now national eyeballs on both of these. Do you think this is a little bit of a trade showcase for CPI. I don't know if it's a showcase because here's here's why I don't think if you pulled all the executives around the league. There's no one who says Chris. Paul can't play or Chris. Paul can't help my team. That's not the issue. The issue is the salary and the gauge. And there's nothing he can do on the court now. That is going to erase it. You think forty four million dollars when he's thirty six. That's what I'm talking about. The salaries the salary and that is the biggest set of numbers. Everyone knows but there became a narrative last season of he's old on breaking down and in fact what happened was if you looked at the numbers when he was playing with James Turn versus not with James Harden. They were very when he is now playing in a offense where he can kind of have more of his way. And we're seeing good numbers. Yeah well I don't think because a showcase I mean crystal complete a high level. I think he is doing a well. He would do a great job of being a mentor to Shakeel over there But I would like to see him with a contender and I think that will probably be impossible due to their salary being so high because I mean to Trade Chris Paul and in that forty four million dollar contract you gonNa want a superstar back has won that contract has already been traded for another concert and just saying it's contract. We'll let me ask you this. Would there be anything that would make you if you Chris Paul and now my next question would you give the money back player option. Give up the option or partially. We guarantee the option. You can do that. You can reduce your guarantee until like fifty percent for instance back at forty four million complicated located for him. He has the Players Association. Press like you kind of worry about setting a precedent So it's a little different a hundred percent he could and maybe he'll decide it's worth it. I don't know this year's Anthony Davis talking about style. Take a listen here. You know. All he knows that's why we work so this you see Iran a Li like Russell. Mark my brother. Here's some pants. Rubber bands wants to from there. You Go. That question was about if a stylist ever presents him with like outlandish options and he basically just completely called after his friend. Russell Westbrook so I wanted to know who's style you would rather cap eighties or Brussels. Russ in his own Go if I had to pick one russ is only in the different world. He's in the fashion world right. Yeah we just like normal people like it was just like a normal person down. Don't trust the same these nice you don't get to you can see. We live is red because the glide is glaring off of that chain into my eyeball. 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Big Baller's Back

High Noon

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Big Baller's Back

"And. Ahah people patriots Super Bowl brain and some of fighting now. That was a real violent look now. The dining Brooke, Dow's eight full all we away past kerfuffle, and we are here to somewhere Malay. Yeah. Buffa- fractious way. Mass rags definitely on may level. They appear six believe is where we work. It's one of those videos that we were like we should do this on the show. And then we were like wait to find out. What happened? Boston any fighting shirts off and everything in war. Our first name though is Anthony Davis. Because Brad Turner says the Lakers have now pulled out of the Anthony Davis derby after quote outrageous requests such as six to eight draft picks. And meanwhile, whoa, JR. Says this is all negotiating tactic. But I asked you that was going on. But I mean, it isn't a gauche eating tactic. They want to make this trait. They're not saying we don't want Anthony Davis anymore. They want to be in a place to make trading. What I think is happening here is the Lakers came out kind of like them shoes which best offer off rip. Then after that people get greedy on the back and trying to get a little more. That's what I think the Lakers. Did they said Ingram? They said ball who is they said picks. And now if you're the pelicans might not be like we want to pick sent two more. That's what I think is happening. This to me actually, more is going gonna make this deal. See I don't know if they are because the pelicans, I think are realizing that they are in the driver's seat. They don't have to do. Anything as much as clutch, Anthony Davis and the Lakers are working in concert to make it seem like the Lakers offer is the best one and not only that come July June. When the Celtics are in it. The Celtics will be scared away by the fact that Anthony Davis people have now said he doesn't want to be in Boston that the Celtics will be scared away from the table. But if I am the pelicans bowl, I'm looking at that Celtics offer and still saying that's at least on par with the Lakers and more than that. I'm looking at the fact that the number one picking the draft will be Williamson, and when that picked reveals itself, whoever gets it, I want the ability to offer Anthony Davis Zion straight up that leads the first of all I don't think that will get it done. But let's keep going because at least some questions here one. What are you going to do until June or whenever it is ever going to have the lottery, and this pick is ultimately going to be revealed because they got to figure out what to do this idea that they're not going to play him? Chris ain't reporting the Davis is healthy. But they won't let him play Lee has to get involved in this because the union will soon get involved. With him. You can't play and you're just going to send him home. That's the first part of that to me. The second part is why do people assume that Boston is going to overwhelm somebody with the offer that they make in a trait. Have we paid attention to Danny ages work had you seen his movies? He's not out here trying to make trades. He's out your Tronto. Rob you there's no reason to think that he's going to give you something that has been alternately going to floor. You make you make this deal and Boston might not have kyri by the time that you're able to make this deal, which then makes the calculus different for them. So maybe you can get more. I don't know. But I feel like there's so many moving parts involved. They're all that. I don't see why this offer you got. I don't think you're going to get much better than this. So you may fairly doubt any ancient whether he'll sell the farm come June. But that is the word that the Celtics have been communicating to the pelicans you want the farm waiver. That's how it works. Of course. That's what they're going to tell them. Yes. They're gonna say we're giving you the form. We don't even know what the farm means in the eyes of daddy age. He's like I'll give you the farm, but I won't. Give you the truck in little do. You know, the truck is Jason Tatum. So that's what I'm saying. He has to be a part daddy ain't so trustworthy visage. Danny say he going gonna give us everything with everything that could go on the in between as this whole thing guy. I'm sorry. This ideal maybe somebody'll Zion. Maybe the Celtics show up take the deal you got right now. And the inbetween is where the Lakers have leverage if any because that is where they can say we're going to have six months of headaches and speculation. Do you want that deal ball the next name yesterday? The Varo Sadie was going to speak into existence. Lonzo going to Phoenix instead of the wall. And Anthony Davis dre mS morning. He went on the Doug and wolf show and on air ninety eight point seven FM to discuss. Laker game. Boy that out to you was the worst coast ever for Lonzo because he had Lulu Pahlavi when love ain't nobody in the stands for not playing the game. A lot of minutes at games raggedy hair. Were you a little of freight of the bronze like the reaction Librado? I'm not afraid of James, what are you talking about? One of the Broncos. I'm old enough to be his father. I've got good insight. Let him know I go you don't even hear of Kouzmin if Longo don't make him in the Las Vegas summer league. The hell. Heart get nothing. They live raggedy. I love raggedy. I missed this, man. Bo like Godzilla from the bottom of the ocean. He has risen up and said, I can make this as messy as you want me to write because that's what he's doing. He needs to create leverage. But in the process, he is basically revealing the nightmare of having Lonzo ball on your hold on though. Here's what so crazy about this this mess compared to everything else. That's going on right now. This is just funny. This is that even rate, right, right? Any Lebel these no each other? They know his dad and everything cal- already told him. He was going to bleep disreputable word. Are you worried about this? No, this crazy that everything else is going on so much lavar could say this a it doesn't rate in be if I had to bet that stuff stuffy saying about Luke Walton. Well, I gotta fill into their people in the Lakers front office who agree with every single word. He said, and they would agree with that. Because that helps explain why their offer actually stronger than you may realize when you're talking about Ingram and coups and Lonzo himself if they can make the argument, we wouldn't be better under better coaching. That may be an argument to say, we're actually better than what the Celtics young guys are just you know, you have Alvin gentry he'll probably develop them into what they could be. Yeah. No. I mean this. There's also this though, and one thing about the VAR have thought that after everything happened with trip to China with everything they went on over minded. Today that he might have justed some of the things that he had been thinking and saying, and well, no, no, no. He's still got saying crazy dream that. He's always head. If you've been pregnant woman, you can't make him play to Noah may be looking to get all three my boy. This is what I'm looking at. Did you got the Andre is running down the court? He can be every center in the league down the court. You got Devon Booker. Onside put jello on other side and into McCain guaranteed will be everybody just it 'cause everybody can show. He still trying to get what an aboard ain't gonna play in the NBA. And there's a curl of a great idea in their Lonzo ball in the Phoenix Suns actually, make sense. That's a team that needs a point guard. Devon Booker playing the point. He is not guard. Lonzo ball, I believe at this point is an underrated distressed asset. But the Gela Whitey making them take jello because somebody gotta take them. Do they I mean for lavar you don't wanna live in a his house? Last day. Kobe our friend Rachel Nichols. Did a great wide ranging interview with Koby and t- Mak with things getting a little personal when she asked about a time. They played one on one with each other. Let's listen. You have told the story that the to you on a trip to Germany y'all played one on one supposedly him. And according to you you want. He supposed to smoke. We we didn't play one on one. Go to school what we were doing keeping score. We working on foot work on the post. We will work out individually. And then we worked in on stuff on oppose keep score. If somebody's playing a workout if the person's scores the keep the ball would wasn't TV score people score. I was keep score eleven three. Three. Patron came like that. What did you think watching this two things? One Koby commands a spectacular level respect from the people who are around you that that is number one number two, Tracy McGrady. I don't know like what this started Judy to back out of this conversation because if white guy saying we were playing one on one and the other was that guy was saying we keep a score the other wasn't I believe in the guy who says we were keeping score. Because the guy who wasn't keeping score is never the got one and Tracy McGrady for this reason. Those strikes me as so much more normal than Kobe Bryant's fun to be around bow. Okay, Moby is competing when the other person doesn't even know what he says working on footwork footwork and Kobe is using this as another notch in the cosmic ledger of IM better than all who come in contact with me, you sound so soft right now like I can't believe you just crazy McGraw. Thank you friend. Can I say that and sound so soft right now when you say this why does it make Tracy McGrady normal because he got beat us something? And now he's trying to wiggle his way out of the idea that he got beat is that normal to you because he sees life as more than mere competition. They were playing basketball fan. We're developing their skill was killed compare. The Kobe was development was winning and the skill that Tracy McGrady there developing air sub-standard postie fin out ready right there. That's set. It sounds like he was doing sorry, man. I'm team Koby all the way on this. He hit it with the it's okay at any later told him, look, it just wasn't your date ebbs everybody, it just didn't happen to be that date. It is so wild see somebody is called is Tracy McGrady. Getting not flight Kobe was knocking on TV Tracy McGrady looks like a guy who was considering do I really want to be friends with Kobe Bryant. Toby was like, guess what? I think. You think we were doing coping doesn't have friends Joe coming up next rods have trust issues? Download the high new podcast and go Montes end mine. I wonder what Pablo does with all the free time. He has not doing podcasts. The right time with Bomani Jones. You're gonna have a hard time selling meal, the idea that girl wasn't hurt. Because otherwise, it just doesn't make any sense you'll pay do that much money to play in the same number of carries as you do CJ Anderson, but you just got CJ Addison. He's to be out there. Also, what can Brown do for you before y'all got him? He's going to be out there in short set them boxes. You can listen or subscribe to the right time with the money Jones on the ESPN app. Apple podcasts away, ever you. Listen to podcasts. Commercial ever that doesn't get talked about it. They need to look that up. If you don't get visit is worth revisit almos-. Chris brother Jaanus this year. And I just want to recognize him. Said mass coach Rick Carlisle at the press conference introduce opposing the other players from the Knicks. They traded for. Let's listen. One thing. I want to mention. Chris brother Jaanus is here who represents him. And I just wanna recognize him. He and I spent a couple of hours talking last night just to get. And he's a very important part of of Kristaps team it, Dan who does PR with them. You know, we just we wanna make sure that we recognize these guys as being part of his team. And and in a way our team to now and do. Mark. You've is still thinking it's cool to show up in places the t shirt on would you think about that? Yeah. If this was uncalled Dennis at the raptors press conference bowl, this would play as self evidently absurd. And I hope people out there watching this understand why they're trying to recruit him through his power broker robe underlined his power broker. And this is a character that has tormented the last organization that they were with and now Carlisle's like, I know what the plan must be terms. Well, how's this going to go now to pour Zing is no longer with an organization that we live to ridicule because porzingas always had the benefit of the doubt with the Knicks. Even after all the stuff we've dealt with him skipping exit meetings and stuff like that when the niche like, hey, this guy doesn't want to be there people like, wait a minute. Who didn't say he didn't wanna be there? Every bit of the benefit of doubt has been afforded to him. The irony of this is we remember not that long ago that Mark Cuban hat that line about how he wanted a guy from Slovenia. Somebody produced by a you worried about mix tapes and data and all this stuff. Porzingas is like a classic case. When you think about this has really produced that much there's more heightened there their production. And he's got a brother who used to play but didn't make it. And now want to be all up in the videos dancing. They basically made him a member of the team and the funny part about that press conference was that also onstage. We're the three players that the Knicks trade into Dallas that were the old couches that they needed to pay Dallas Kristaps Porzingis to remove but those guys on the team than Yannis these press conference always so funny because the press conference about one guy, but you gotta bring all the guys and eight here like mandate about to talk about his brother, rather yachts next quote. He's got a trust issue. And I think it's going to be a lot worse with a young guy. Former Packers tight end your Michael Finley about Aaron Rodgers getting along with new Packers thirty nine year old head coach, Matt leflore. Let's listen. He's a guy where you got a warm up. He's got a game trust in you got to trust issue. And for for what reason I don't know. But so he goes off football. He don't go off personality when he first meets you gotta gain his trust through through the game. And this is crazy to say, but I play with the guys six seven years, and I had to gain much us by running a right routes and no one place. Could be an issue for the new young coke. Here's my thing. He said that this crazy to say what's crazy about they said there at the end. Here's like I had to earn my trust by running my routes. Really? You had to earn trust by doing your job. Isn't that amazing? This could be a problem. It will be a problem of Matt leflore thinks he's about to come in here and lay down the law to aired Rogers that will fail. This seems like it's going to be very much like an NBA type of situation where we talk about this the league players allow you to coach them, and you have to earn their trust in order to make that happen. And thus the question is raised. How much did Aaron Rodgers have to say behind the scenes about Matt leflore being the guy he'd have to work with because the Packers had said, you won't be involved Rogers and said, I don't want to be involved, but we have situation Matla floor before he was the titans offense coordinator was running the rans and in Los Angeles on McVay gets to put those offensive place into Jared dot, but that's not going. What input head? I don't think that matters at all no matter what the the input was they got what they got in Aaron Rodgers going to do largely what he wants you got to learn to live with that quote. We are aware the raise Leah says emails in my father's account. Said maybe many people in this country. After raises Email exchanges involving his father Joe Ricketts were leaked online. Pablo? How big a deal is this for the cups? This should be an enormous deal. Bo this is a first ballot scandal when it comes to issues of race and religion. Here's a quote from an Email from the gentleman in question. Joe Ricketts, quote, Christians and Jews have mutual respect for each other to create a civil society, as you know, Islam cannot do that therefore we cannot ever let Islam become a large part of our society. Muslims are naturally. My our enemy do their tag and bias against non Muslims. That is pretty explicit only one of many emails that were uncovered by splinter news. Now, the tricky thing for the cubs on this one as we know public relations on this stuff in the way that they handle it depends on what the level of outrage is going to be Israel rage going to be surrounding this in baseball, which you had surrounding Donald sterling. I'm not sure Donald sterling also came with video the audio which in a different sort of way. And it was this. Long track record. We're struggling all these things. But the biggest one it was critical mass with players. There was a concern that the players were not going to go it and in a way that could have affected the NBA playoffs. So they got that dude about the paint. Right. Did with Ricketts would baseball is to consider is that whole family? The owner. But y'all can't be a group sometimes and individuals at other times. This man is reflective of the group the group then has to be punished. One would think if major league baseball cares. And I think they care as much America's system, and there's a lot of comic sans. Emails your boat racist, punchline comics, emails that aren't coming. But they or if you get my drift like bringing is indivisible coming up next. John wall. Ruptured achilles. Anybody could done believe it when people talk about how the owner of the Bengals cheat. And you see that press conference today. Did you see I did he looked like he was trying to sell Taylor tractor as both being sizes checks Yorgos -ation that gave their players use jock straps shows up. Today's number twelve. Tell many months John wall is expected to miss after it surgery today to fix a ruptured. Achilles that appeared to occur while slipping and falling in his home. How should fancy feeling today and over the day about the wishes feigns John wall be feeling today? Now good for him as people will clearly point out. He's going to get all of his money. But how many times have they gone into that left leg before this happened? We had hounded how many surgeries there are one two three four five prior on that leg on. You keep going back into it. And it gets weaker and how disappointed us have to be twenty seventeen. Look like things were going well for the nothing good has happened since this is a guy who is. Four year one hundred seventy million dollar contract. And when you add up all of the leg stuff, we have PRP injections getting rid of calcium deposits, non stress injuries to Brightman surgeries yet all that up with that money. And this does not feel like a team that can contend for four more years, at least at least this do when he got the contract. It was legit that he got the contract. There was no way around that he'd earned that money at that point. But now it looks like it's all over the fast athletic guy. List? Go worst injury, you can possibly have. Inclosing tried one. You about big coal, aka funny money. I personally want to keep money where one guy misses work. Somebody else can help me get my money in Canada is one do random bitcoin chain, sadly died even sadder for some people is he was the only person would pass where for the exchange and now people can't get they hands on funny money damn homie. This is both poetically perfect and one hundred ninety million dollars the nightmare. We prophesied vote I propose maybe they can create a network of computers too. You know, collectively try generate many random passwords all the time. Except that sounds a lot like what they lost the money doing on is this. There is somebody who is related to that do who tied his funny money in with that dude who was at his computer right now like damn what was his name. And what was your birthday? Oh, eight three one cygnus. Let's start with. Password right is a password password. This you'll get the password now is telling you check your text messages for a six digit code guy to step up in occasion. 'cause you just can't leave all that funny money. They're one step. You gotta go password. Go password one has to try all. You say go to the hope that you may say, yes pack, the Email, I guess that legal to recommend in closing. I'd like to show you why NFL man of the year, Chris long declared the bison a quote, top ten underrated animal and quotes, that's watch. This is seemingly the greatest athletes in the world of bison. But the reason I bring up to you is that there's a man who did in fact under eight this animal. Let's watch that. Pool with yellow tape to encourage the bison to move. But number. Thirty four. Growl. You must go. Go in the final kind of alarm bell from both four tail wrist and vice only do that when they're going to charge or when they're going to defecate and you want to be near them. Looks like it's covered with blood. Award ranges into Steve's leg. Four inches into his leg and that twice in his their number thirty four the Earl Campbell of bison. Like if you're in a place where bison wind up in your backyard. You should also have a little piece of machinery to help. You take care of this problem because I'm not going out there by myself, if I've got a firearm, you don't think the poll with the yellow flag at the end was advanced enough ice in corral technology to bring to pod, click and Clack. Oh, yeah. Kris van now man now, that's what they say questionable covet them. Knicks.

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Jennifer Reeder, Naked Came the Stranger and Love Actually

Studio 360 with Kurt Andersen

54:26 min | 1 year ago

Jennifer Reeder, Naked Came the Stranger and Love Actually

"I remember writing in an electric car for the first time about a decade ago and it was weird the quiet and everything else but of course around that same time. podcasts seem weird because they were new in fact they were called audio blogs back then but now people all over the world listeners. PODCASTS all the time on all kinds of devices and just like podcasts. Electric cars are normal. They've got longer ranges meaning. They're not just for commuting to work. You can take an electric vehicle on a short trip to the country on the weekend for instance or even on longer road trips they recharge recharge faster than ever. So you don't have to wait around all day. Have your car battery charged up and there are more models to choose from sedans. SUV's through these and luxury vehicles and even motorcycles so you can find one electric vehicle that fits your life with more affordable models and less routine gene maintenance. Electric cars may actually save you money as well as the planet electric cars. They're normal now. Learn more at normal now dot com today on studio three sixty. I wanted to make a feminist film that had a missing girl at its centre. How one director deals with the beautiful dead girl trope? Certainly I want this film to be a kind of battlecry for young people while Jennifer readers knives and skin is being called a contemporary Heather's plus a new novel about Elson suburbia seems to be on the way to becoming another instant bestseller. The big pin sixties. Erotic novel does not all it seems to be the turn out to be a great frank. What came out was a plan for writing to worst bestseller in the world? One of the greatest literary hoaxes ever. That's ahead on studio three sixty right after this. I remember writing in an electric car for the first time about a decade ago and it was weird the quiet and everything else but of course course around that same time. podcast seem weird because they were new in fact they were called audio blogs back then but now people all over the world. Listen to podcasts. All the time on all kinds of devices and just like podcasts. Electric cars are normal. They've got longer ranges changes. Meaning they're not just for commuting to work. You can take an electric vehicle on a short trip to the country on the weekend for instance or even on longer road trips tips. They recharge faster than ever. So you don't have to wait around all day to have your car battery charged up and there are more models to choose from sedans and SUV's and luxury vehicles and even motorcycles so you can find one electric vehicle that fits your life with more affordable models love and less routine maintenance. Electric cars may actually save you money as well as the planet electric cars. They're normal now. Learn more at normal now dot com. This is videotape sixty. I'm currently at. I'm sitting on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial I level regardless of Thomas. Jefferson's vegetable roasted chicken based very well done. Editing is all about timing. I try to get a little bit away from the actual subject must get sick. It could replace sixty with good Anderson. If you don't know the work of the film director Jennifer for reader a good way to get a sense of sensibility is watching one of her earliest short films. A while back. Not so far. From this time there was a girl a real young girl named cheery. Now Cheer had uncool Bruce. He was a funny uncle aching. Know what any it's called white trash girl. The story with the voice over by the director herself off of an unwanted inbred infant whose flushed down the toilet but survives series. Baby wiggled around in the sewer sludge for months. What's the Fed and yours the bay? It made the baby strong real strong. I mean superstrong. Her tiny honey baby body was becoming more toxic with every tiny dating bread and every time baby heartbeat this little ball of nothing nice us was turbo charged. Living in that Cesspool incubator gave the kid a superpower toxic body fluids. She can spew at bad madmen. Now are angels all grown up. And she's waging biological warfare on any dumb fuck who asks for it. Why Trash Burley's built for speed tables buy day raises cow? Jennifer reader made her superhero the protagonist of three Short Comic Book Films Nineteen Ninety-five Work. That got her an MFA from the School of the Art Institute in Chicago she was born very much out of have a third wave riot girl. Feminism that celebrated diy. That definitely had that kind of spirit that urgency after white trash girl all Jennifer reader built a career of making short films for the Art House circuit so far nearly fifty in twenty five years all punkish feminist stories about the lives of complicated women and girls. It's because I am writing oftentimes from my own experiences and observations but I look around at. Ah What is offered to girls and women in terms of media whether it's advertising images or television Russian and film there's lots and lots of of content about girls and women that in my estimation just isn't very authentic and so even though my films are very particular and they have a kind of art house appeal more so than a mainstream appeal. I'm trying in a film that authenticity gap. She's now transplanted that basic. Mo into a feature film called knives in skin which stars unassembled cast of theater actors from her hometown. Chicago is the first feature. She's both written and directed and it's this semi surreal exploration of teenage suburban life. That people are calling the twenty first century. Heather's a hang. Call it a midwestern gothic teen noir. It's it's the story of a small mid western town where right from the get-go a teenage girl goes missing if you find something. Stay with it and yells Something as loudly as you can. If you find Carolyn. Stay with her if she's okay. Yeah I need the knife as loudly as you can. If she's not okay yell give me some skin as loudly as you can if you get lost lost or separated or just feel like you need some help. y'All girls just WanNa have fun. It's a teen film that borrows from various genres. It's kind of a horror and not it's kind of a thriller and not but it's kind of a musical and not certainly I want this film to be a kind of battle cry for young people well and and I was struck in this film that not unlike the way teenage girls are so often portrayed in film and on television as these super precocious. Many adults. these these kids are kids. Yeah exactly I mean. Even though the film itself is is hyper stylized between the dialogue the performances the lading aiding art direction. I meant for the whole film to feel as though it's hovering just above reality but I wanted the audience to feel seen and to feel heard and to feel connected to these young women and their stories and to feel validated in their own. Sense of a kind of daily survival so part of how I think of this film as being kind of genre borrowing in terms of specifically horror. Is that sense of the teen girls every day fight for survival among peers were adults. Who just are hell bent on making kind of one awful mistake after the other that does have impact on these young women? There's something about that. Every day horror that I wanted to portray. He needs some extra money. You could probably sell my meds to your friends at school. I'm making good money on my own. I sell underwear. Fancy stuff they used yours yours they do you wash on what he wants to clean underwear hoop. I serve Turkey underwear. Builders Bankers Lawyers Doctors Dad's history teacher. And somehow the fact that it's teenagers to me make sense that there's all these magical realist gestures gestures like a woman's shirt with tiger on it. The Tigers speaks to her suddenly in glasses glow and wounds shine electric. Read the so. That's what you mean by hovering about reality which is not fully unreal but but glimpses of unreality yes absolutely and I've used thousand elements of magical realism in my shorts. So I knew they could work so when I started writing knives and skin. I didn't want to make a film. Mm that didn't include these these elements that suggested that there is something very magical for instance about smalltown America and more so than that. There's something super powerful about teenage girls. So that's also why you know there's this sort of parallel universe verse in the knives and skin world which suggests that there are places of synchronicity and harmony end utter beauty that is the flip side of what but these young people are actually experiencing on a daily basis and speaking of that kind of uncanny. Synchronicity you've got these moments Through the whole film from where where the teenage girls sing. Suddenly choral arrangements of pop songs like our lips are sealed by the goes a sir see also. Yeah exactly I mean the a singing moments and especially these these pop songs that get slowdown like lullabies limitations may be perhaps even eulogies the eighties. Part Art is part of my autobiography. You know their songs that I loved most certainly put on mix tapes when I was a teenager so I get to inject this film with some of my autobiography but then Dan a song leg. Our Lips are sealed which is an infectious pop song. You know you're rolling down the windows and singing to it but in the rearrangement as it exists in knives skin it's really a song about solidarity and empowerment. So when people come on. I I like to ask them who their creative creative influences are and you told us in advance. That one of yours is David Lynch which made total sense. But tell me more how you connected originally only two to Lynch's work. I saw blue velvet when it first came out which is great. We're 1986 movie with does hopper and Isabella Rossellini and Kyle mclachlan and Laura dern sneak into her apartment. Are you crazy Jeffrey. She's possibly involved in murder. This is Kim commute down. I have a plan to think work very little feeder. Do but I do need your help exactly. I mean there was something really special about the idea. He presented that small town. America held the portals to the fourth dimension in his he pays attention to due to art direction in a really extraordinary way. I mean he was an art school kid as well so call her and texture are deeply important to him. I certainly think my films have a more diverse. There's more diversity in my small town and I think I try to bring a kind of feminist or even sort of feminine sensibility to my films that I'm not so sure he's he's all that interested in another big influence on your list. Is Lynne Ramsay a Scottish director. WHO's only movie I've seen I think is we need to talk about Kevin with Tilda Swinton but the movie on your list is morvern caller which which came out in two thousand and two what is morvern caller? And why do you like it so much so more from Colorado based on a I believe a short story story It's a central character. A woman who Not Spoiling anything because this happens right at the beginning whose whose boyfriend has Killed himself and then in the entire rest of the film her both confusion over his death and her grief and her response her coping response response to the trauma is so unexpected and so remarkable left me is probably just money's no. There's no coming doc tonight country another country you're talking about. She is a female character who so resistant. And at times. So unlikable I mean. She's a very difficult. A woman and both cinematic Lee and in real life completely drawn to difficult complicated women so morvern caller. Is this really astonishing character portrait of a woman in crisis. But it's deeply unexpected. There's no moment where she falls to her knees wailing you know as so many you know sort of grieving women do in films. Another of filmmakers on your list is the the Belgian director Chantal Ackerman And in particular one of her early films from a nineteen seventy-five called John Demand And then an address in French Brussels that I'm not going to pretend to pronounce It is an extremely deadpan portrait of of the domestic life of a woman right man. She's like Pictu- she really is like the original difficult resistant mother. And that's a film that I saw very early early on and was just astonished by the pacing. For instance you know the the meatloaf scene which a site in which I kind of pay homage to in in knives and skin mine is quite different. The character you see her making meatloaf live and it's not just like for thirty seconds. You you see her making a meat love. Oh Yeah it's in real time it's extraordinary. I mean imagine that having to talk to who to explain to your producers that you need to use that entire something like three and a half minute real time shot of her her making a meatloaf so meticulously with the sound of the meat. It's beautiful visceral scene with so much pesos. And the sense of attention. That's built up through that pacing through these daily domestic activities in a similar ways. Lynn Ramsey's morvern caller. It's this very very intense. Very specific of portrait. Study of a woman unraveling really and it's so unexpected. Expected your last influence that we have here is not a movie or a movie maker. It's it's the American fine art photographer. Francesca Woodman I saw her. You work for the first time when I was in high school which was a long time after she had died and and those beautiful quivering self portrait of a woman both willing herself into a space and disappearing into the space base vibrating in her environment or vibrating her environment. They were just astonishing. I'd never seen self portraiture like that. And it didn't take much research after seeing the first image to understand that she had many years prior. The first time of seeing any of her photographs had killed herself at the age of twenty two. which like gutted me you know so realizing that you had this very young woman who made these extremely powerful impactful self-portraits in a very short period of time potentially all this kind of language leading leading up to her suicide? It's as though those photographs are like a long term visual suicide note and just so people are clear they're black and white There are kind of degraded or messed up Rooms and backgrounds She's often nude. No I hear you and as you've just said it. It's almost like they're still from a film that would end with her death by her own hand yes absolutely. She used this a kind of a large format camera and she would use these long exposures so Haha her image and the images of the other female models in the photographs are often blurred. Because they're moving. I mean she he made kind of ghostly images but she she is a ghost and so you know when I was making knives and skin I wanted to make a feminist film that had a a missing girl at its center so the trope of so many horror films as the missing girl or the dead girl and that's a problem for a feminist filmmaker. But I wanted take on that as an emblem or an icon this kind of body of of the girl and so I thought I thought a lot and looked back over. All of Francesca would men's work to really kind of call on the spirit of those photographs. And the way we've talked about your work and your inspirations and this film could lead listeners votes. That's going to be a bummer. Well in fact I finished the film thinking. Oh though it's I won't say a happy ending but kind of absolutely I didn't WanNa make a film that has so much darkness in it And leave an audience with no hope. Hope there's hope at the end and understanding that coming of age the lifelong process. And there's never you know no one is beyond redemption and there's a time there's there's there's a time and place for everyone to make mistakes and learn from those mistakes and move on from those mistakes so everyone in this film has made a mistake or has confronted a burden and and we understand that that even the most problematic of the characters in this film has turned a corner to make their life more stable and more meaningful Jennifer reader. It's been a pleasure. I really wish you the best of luck with this film occurred. It was really great talking to you too. Thank you so much for taking time. Jennifer readers. Latest film is called knives and skin. It's in select theaters and streaming as well coming up. How did Erotica this preposterous together like garden snakes? They contorted moaned gassed clenched. In thronged. End Up on the New York Times bestseller list. That story is just ahead on studio three sixty right after this. This episode of Studio Three Sixty is brought to you by Fitbit. Let's face it. The holidays are exhausting. That's why fitbit is the perfect gift. It's an incredibly credibly. Easy Way to get a good night's sleep and now with new features for two thousand and nineteen that there are more reasons than ever to add one to your list. Fitbit helps you understand your sleep by creating your own personalized sleep score every night. It keeps track of how well you sleep measuring your sleep. Duration time in Rem sleep and how much you move around sleep score is fits most advanced form of sleep analysis. And now you can even check it right from your own rest in addition to the APP and that's just the beginning. 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Very commercial fiction cranked up the new smut machine and turned out trashy sexual romps that became huge bestsellers such as valley of the dolls by Jacqueline Susann. She felt herself responding to his embrace with Ann Arbor. She had never dreamed seemed. She possessed her mouth demanding more and more. And the adventurers by Harold Robbins. Her mouth was warm and moist and still tasted the Orange Soda and his lips were traveling down her body over her breasts. which was great? If you're eleven or twelve and finding these paperbacks on your parents bedside tables but the literary mandarins were appalled in nineteen sixty. Six Lewis Nichols writing in the New York Times about that year's bestsellers said that quote seldom has there been so wretched a collection of titles as appears today but the greatest example of wretched Erotica truly laughably. Bad came along a couple of years later and how it came along is itself like a comic novel Studio Three Sixty Sam. Kim Has the story. It all started in nineteen sixty six and this bar in Garden City Long Island called the Sulky was a place where you could listen to music. Habit drink dance. That's that's Maryland Burger. She was the diplomatic correspondent. Newsday the daily newspaper of Long Island back then. Many co workers would retire each night to the Sulky including including a thirty-three-year-old columnist aimed Mike McGrady Gin Mills. That year were filled with writers themselves against the harsh new realities of their profession. McGrady Eighty died in two thousand twelve in nineteen seventy. He wrote a memoir about this period. Read here by actor Greg Tannen to be a serious writer in the year. Nineteen sixty six was also to be a serious drinker. They headed piano bar. You know and there was some attractive women who hung out there. That's Harvey Aronson. He was a columnist new new staff. I remember once. I drank champagne out of his secretaries. Show and told everybody that I was getting athlete's foot of the mouth south and they'd be up drinking in this place. George Vesey was Newsday sports reporter and then people would talk and all the hair was let down and discussing the American literature. That's Tony in Somalia. He was the editor for Newsday for over thirty years. Stanley Green was the day news editor. Mike Hughes to complain about Books like How ruled Robbins and the Jackie Susann? I was appalled by the kind of books making enormous successes successes. Look at the garbage. Gets printed batsman. The idea hit him. McGrady thought Suzanne's and Robbins books were Schlock but there were selling millions of copies. So what if you actually tried to write a preposterously bad erotic novel. Would it be just as successful successful. Everyone at Newsday do one chapter. We would each right about one specific perversion and we put them all together. We could write the whole thing in a week. What came out? It was a plan for a writing the worst bestseller in the world. We'll make a lot of money. Is it gonNA take any money. But I thought we'd have a lot of fun so McGrady got home from the bar that night poured himself a nightcap and type a memo to his CO CO workers you are hereby officially invited to become the CO author of bestselling novel. There'll be an unremitting emphasis on sex. Also true excellence excellence in writing. We'll be quickly blue penciled into oblivion he then typed out a plot outline that would connect all the disputed sex scenes. Each chapter will involve evolved. Miss Jillian Blake home. Wrecker as the book opens. She learns that her husband. William has been conducting an affair. She is unfaithful at first to even the score. She's unfaithful awful for a while because she enjoys it. She's unfaithful finally because she makes it a goal to destroy the seemingly happy marriages that surround her. The next day McGrady circulated the memo in the Newsday Office. I came in late at night and I found a note in my mailbox. George Vesey took the memo home He decided to write his chapter while he was supposed to be doing yard. Work so yeah I- mowers would have been on my mind and I you know I typed it out and half an hour. Morten era bro. Found in self staring staring hard at her slim exciting face then staring hard at at her slim exciting body. Her arms were slim and exciting to the mowers in the garage. She said she had removed the belt to his Bermuda shorts and then without words they merged in the dark in the cool darkness they communicated I remember using the word communicate at a lot which kind of a stupid word for for making love. But that's that's what I was up to faster and faster they communicated harder and harder fingers and nails on skin teeth on skin. Then great shudders years of total communication. They came apart and arrested in the dark. He said I'd forgotten. There was more to life than mowing the lawn on three weeks later. A total of twenty four Newsday Writers Twenty men and four women sent a chapter a few. The submissions were poetic sophisticated intelligent and other words unacceptable. Some of the chapters were much too good and I had to work like hell to make them bad enough to US news. You know. It's not easy to write bad. McGrady enlisted one of the Writers Harvey Aronson to share editing duties to really write bad. It's Oh I did some. If it was just moderately stupid together. They downgraded the pros combined. Some of the chapters cut a few submissions and one chapter that got the the axe with Maryland burgers. I didn't make the cut and my sister said well. It was obviously too well written and my mother said it. It wasn't sexy enough. I think that may be the first time I heard my mother say sexy a couple of days. Before I talked to Maryland. I went to the Archives of Columbia University. That's where Mike McGrady donated many documents from his career. I made copies of some of the unused chapters from the book. Do you still have your chapter by the way no I was. Can I ask you if you had it. You know what I have Some of it and I see so I handed her a copy and for the first time in over fifty years. She read her submission that was cut the manuscript. She pressed her body against his kissing first his fingers than his arm his chest his mouth. The orchestrated a rhythm that he had once said was composed of everything. They both had ever known of Surf and swing. Trees crowded traffic and musty rooms of sweet flowers and moonlight of life itself. What did you think when you read that? I'm amazed that was a pretty no. I wasn't so naive and I was just sort of young. I I don't remember a word of it and I am so happy you've come up with a copy. Meanwhile for the submissions that did make the cut mike and Harvey were working to cobble all them together to make them seem like they're all by one person so mike invented a collective pseudonym for all the writers Penelope Ashe Penelope Ashe as he described his co-conspirators was a demure long island housewife and for the title the Newsday Writers Scan through our list of bestsellers and found that the words stranger naked were frequently used so they combined the two together to create the title for their opus naked. Came the Stranger Ranger. There were fourteen chapters in the manuscript was by a Pulitzer Prize winning reporter Robert Greene. She stepped out of the dress. She was wearing. No Bra pink white peaks rising from the residue of her Tan Pulitzer Prize winning reporter gene golds and they reached I for each other and found pleasure gentle caresses then faster quicker faster needful will be was lost and immense billowy softness send riot is colors and roaring wins he was the sand and the sea and the star Pierce to sky when asked to riders to name their favorite chapter in the book it was unanimous. I think that John Cummings chapter is the funniest John. Cummings who died in two thousand sixteen was an investigative reporter at Newsday declaimed that when he was a young man in the marines he hadn't adventure with a woman in the Philippines teens. who was a hooker and that the climactic moment of their involvement Preston Nice Cube up his rear end and he wrote this line which is in the book you can find it exactly and then Ernie felted it? She shoved the ice in the Big Rock Candy Mountain together like Garden Snakes. They contorted moaned gasped clenched clenched. And thronged Ernie found what sor- volunteerism Milton had only socked. He thought the feelings his teeth would note. The imagery was absurd the perversions were plentiful. It was then that I began to sense that it was going to work. It was actually going to work work. It's true they did succeed in the first part of their plan. They wrote a genuinely terrible novel. But what self-respecting book publisher would actually actually published this book publisher and proud of it. Yeah I influenced an entire generation. That's Lyle Stuart. Speaking two thousand and five in the late sixties. He was known on for publishing controversial sexually explicit books like the art of Erotic Seduction Mike had previously written about him for Newsday article he broached the idea. Da Alliance through it. When Mike told him it was going to be put on he thought that was great so we needed somebody to front for the book? There was the name name Penelope Ashe. We needed a woman who might fit the name. The decided on Mike sister-in-law a thirty eight year old writer named billion after weeks weeks of trying to track her down. I billy really you. She agreed to talk on the phone. Well actually my catch ought to me about it Ah for a while and I thought it was one of the most beautiful plans I'd ever heard because I was always impressed with what often wells had done with war of the world and this was just as good a spokesman my mind so she went to the lyles do it and he loved. He thought she'd be great as a friend the book so that was it and he said he would publish it so three years after it was just an offhand comment. The Sulky Bar the book was finally we published for the cover Lau Stewart used stock photo of a kneeling naked woman and for the author photo. They used a picture of billy on. The plan was for billy to appear on television and radio posing as Penelope Ashe but before she did Mike and Harvey prepped for the interviews so we went to Billy Psalm and she said you know what you do. What can she say? And I remember saying to her. Tell them that virginity entity is like a tiffany lamp. She said what is that me and I said the thinnest idea but it sounds great. That went into even rockets and I bought a couple of very sexy outfits and it was a little more flamboyant than I would personally wear that it they were being interviews ash the author. I think this is what the public is fine today. Sex couple couple months later. I'm on my patio. I hear being interviewed on a radio. Show oh well you know. Virginity is like a tiffany lamb. I just laid on the ground on the stone patio and just beat by hand on the ground I carry it off when it came to fruition in the only emotion that I can tell you that I felt scared and it was frightening that the whole world knew me now knows I was pretty shy and that was watch me. You Take Shi'as person and you do that a couple of times and the shyness can be cured. I'm a living example across the country. The book sold between twenty and thirty thousand copies so far and they're still going in some areas like hotcakes New York Times printed a one on paragraph dismissive review on aware that it was a spoof. It would be nice if this book could be judged by its cover which is easily the best part in the category erotic fantasy this one rates about a c. so the hoax seemed to be fooling everyone and McGrady and the other writers were in. No hurry a to disabuse the notion that Penelope Ashe in the book real but then somebody tipped off a reporter for the Wall Street Journal and so that were asked these keep it secret because we wanted to see how high up. Though Robert Mayor was a columnist at Newsday he wrote one of the Chapters Wall Street Journal was adamant. They said they were going to hold that. They knew enough about it to go with the story and right after that all over the world I mean it was insane. Newspapers all across the United States jumped on it. It just went wild back in nineteen sixty six here at the offices of Newsday. twenty-five twenty five young writers got together perpetrated a gigantic hoax naked. came the stranger. This first time author is trying her best instead turns out it was written by a bunch of other people trying to do their worst. I was sent off to Paris to cover the Vietnam peace talks and I opened up the International Herald Tribune the own while I was waiting for the press conference to begin and there it was naked came the stranger the spoof of the century. Walter Cronkite sent a helicopter on the lawn across the street read from Newsday's office and Mike and and a friend named blue shorts were now got it but he was in the helicopter with this. They flew us off all about sex in suburbia was published. This week seems to be on the way to becoming another other instant best-seller but it is not all that seems to be says Jacqueline Susann move over. You got to move way over to make room for twenty four men and that's the way. It is Wednesday Sunday August. Sixth nineteen sixty nine and a member looking down at New York City. Loose Woods. said it's all yours. The city is all because you in on September nineteen. sixty-nine the real penelope meter first national televised appearance on the David Frost. Ross show me the authoress of naked came the stranger penelope as they call it the drake's one therefore another by nineteen of us with We walked through as the author was. There's a flip for night. Came in wondering on the stage with her Russian will fail now. Why did I bring the dog? I don't have an idea. Maybe talk if I was so scared was told us that he was dead. Eh shitless That we'll found is going to have an accident during the program a month later in the book it sold over ninety thousand copies it gradually crept up the New York Times bestseller list reaching number three just behind the love machine by none other than Jacqueline Susann. In other words the book that was parodying. Suzanne was now rivaling her in Sales Mike and Harvey soon got a call. It was Bernard Geiss demand who published Suzanne's Valley. The dolls tico alerts to his office. He said you guys write a sequel. Couldn't make a million dollars and Mike and I looked at each other and we both said had no we did what so. It wasn't wasn't GonNa do it again. Harvey left Newsday to write for New York magazine. He's proud of his role in naked. Came a stranger but not without reservations. I hope that when I go to the great beyond that is not the defining clause in the first paragraph Sara Griffith I mean it can be it can be neo bit at one and I back. Robert Mayor was just as conflicted after after all the hoax had proved that the standards of readers were even lower than what might could cynically predicted. I didn't know whether I should laugh. Cry Laughed at that we pulled off that this hoax at work right but also to To cry at the taste of America. Good that we had exposed. It was a feeling we all shared from time to time. This was on Mike. McGrady ended his nineteen seventy memoir. The funds seem to Vanish Nash. Even with the first wild thought that the stunt might work there is the fear that yes the stunt just might work later as it all came came to pass their always count emotions unexpected misgivings took the edge off elation. It was too easy. It all went to smoothly America. You sit there. You plump beauty still buying neckties from sidewalk. sharpies still guessing which walnut shell contains the APPEA- still praying along with elmer. Gantry America. Sometimes I worry about you. They get off on a get off from this. Oh ooh Off Get That story was produced by Studio Three Sixty Sam. Kim since we first aired it in two it doesn't seventeen stand green and Robert Mayor have died. Greg Tannin read from Mike McGrady's memoir stranger than naked and Lorraine mattocks read. The excerpts excerpts from making came the stranger. He thought the fillings in his teeth would melt hot in here. Aw coming up I think had seen love actually twenty four twenty five times why the seasonal Rom com everyone. 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FM SLASH STUDIO THAT'S ANCHOR DOT FM Slash Studio Studio threes. It as the holiday season descends on us. I WanNa talk about Christmas movie that rubs a lot of people the wrong way people say it's Glib and it's manipulative and even though it's a rom com they say it's not really that romantic or comedic but one of our listeners. Respectfully respectfully disagrees. My name is Oliver Butcher. I'm screenwriter. I've lived and worked on the West Coast for twenty five years now and my guilty pleasure is the movie. Love actually written and directed by Richard Curtis the love actually is about ten different interrelated intertwining stories concerning love in all of its various permutations and and follows it through the five weeks prior to Christmas climaxing on Christmas Eve and with a postscript one month after so what's this big news then in given up hostility play a nine the looks of the lobster in the Nativity play. Yeah bus up stuff I think in cat scene love actually twenty four twenty five times. I mean the irony is I do not own myself love actually on DVD. I think that's a measure of my guilt by the way. Obviously I do feel guilty because otherwise I would own it. You know. You don't want people to think your feeble minded. I think one of the reasons why I love actually rouses. Such hostility is that it occupies a world that has absolutely no analogues in real life the characters what do they say how they behave people. Just don't don't behave like this. In real life. Put off actually notably the tousled prime minister in the form of Hugh Grant Terrace. He's in in charge. Good Morning Noble terrence was hated him. I think he was a pervert but I very much look view. And then there are other aspects to the the movie which probably wouldn't pass muster these days like the fact that at least three of the story lines are about nail employers forming relationships with female employees and likewise Liam Niessen has this really inappropriately sexual banter with his eleven year old stepson. Anybody overhearing that will call child services the way I feel bad I never all she how you love life is going. Is You know that was a dumb deal long ago unless of course schiffer goals which case I want you to the house straightaway motherless Mongrel and his mother's just died. Oh No we don't want to sex in every room including yours and his dad's making jokes about having sex Claudia Schiffer in every room of the house. I mean it's not what you would say. Your recently bereaved eleven year old stepson. I just sort of isn't so I guess it's my point is that the universe of love actually is not a universe that exists in any recognisable teutonic form. It just doesn't does doesn't doesn't bear any resemblance to life whatsoever so ever but to say that I think is entirely missing the point of the film. It's extremely well-constructed. None of the story lines. Despite the fact they're attended them ever really flagged. I think the same. which sort of exemplifies the kind of level of writing and directing skills is the scene where Laura Linney almost consummate? AH relationship with the hot designer. Karl and there's that moment where they're at the Office Party and then that Norah Jones Song in turn me on Cute Way and take and leads brilliantly over from the party into getting back to her apartment then you you get through the front door of her apartment and then there is this brilliant moment where she says you excuse me for one second and she just around the corner. So there's a wall separating herb from call the head of the stairs and he does Fisk lynching dance glee that. She's actually actually got him back there. And it's a wonderful moment is like there's almost a day factor split screen they're just provided by the scenery wall and then she gets should. It should go Russia's upstairs. She's tiding her bedroom. which is like? That's a very real thing you know. She's tidying the mess in a bedroom. And then call comes up there and then you have this very very kind of well done to awkward disrobing scene between the two of them target leading into A pretty sure is going to be the sum of all All Laura Linney joys in the mood But then of course the the phone rings and then for the first time in the movie when she banters she talks to her brother. I'm not quite sure it's going to be possible to get the pope on the phone tonight. You realize that she's talking to somebody who is very disturbed. Yes I I'm I'm sure he's very good at sexism but then she explained to the first time to call and the audience that she has a brother who's in a mental facility and then she called try to pick up where they left off and the brother calls a gain and she leaves and and so in the in the course of about six minutes the tone is completely shifted. It goes from charming to being awkwardly comedic to being real and then suddenly Albany and you know that she has to go. The film itself is an extraordinary kind of melding of a commercial national a musical and romantic comedy and I think that that tends to be a commercials director skill to be able to segue from one emotion an into a completely different emotion boldly and quickly and I would say that. That's the technique of play here that it requires bolts really. It's interesting that on Netflix. In the kind of digest of the film the treatise on love. I think it is. I mean you know it's not GonNa win a PhD. But it's it's definitely a treatise on love. I think what it is is a great pop song as the Post to a meaningful rock song. And I think that's the key to its success that it's both charmingly innocent on the one hand and incredibly credibly sophisticatedly written directed and edited and scored on the other. Nothing you can do can't be done. Yeah sure it tugs does your heart strings. It's manipulative that's manipulation. Bring it on. I mean I think it's it's it's just what cinemas all about Campaign you can save. Did you say you. That story was produced by Christopher Ripple and by the way I like love actually as well and Intel. We did that story. I didn't know I was supposed to feel bad about that. So what's something you like. That's unpopular or is just really surprising that somebody like you like something like that. That is your guilty pleasure. Tell us about it in an email or a voice memo and send it to incoming at studio three sixty dot org and that's it for this week show to do three. Sixty is a production of PRI. I public radio. International in association with slate and our production team is Jocelyn Gonzales. Indra Newman Sandra Lopez Montalvan. Evan Chow. Lauren Hanson Sam Kim. So Hee Saunders. Tommy Bavarian Morgan flannery. And I am Kurt Andersen. He's it will make a lot of money. Is it winning. But I thought we'd have a lot of fun. Thanks very much for listening to in our public radio. International next time on studio three sixty two key. Is that kind of avoid that you fall in love with before you realize you shouldn't. The longing status beauty and comfort turns deadly when Ripley lashes out at him. It's not that you want him to die. But you're ready for some kind of justice. Listed reinvention in Patricia Highsmith's Ripley trilogy. An American icon next time on studio three sixty.

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Warriors Scuffle Fallout

Highly Questionable

21:15 min | 2 years ago

Warriors Scuffle Fallout

"Hello and welcome to highly questionable. This lime. Green thing is my father Bobby that senior writer for ESPN the magazine. Meantime, she's pretty good. What do you like on the show? They meet him first, my hands Iraq, and we've got warriors drama. Okay. Use those hands puppy. The warriors a big problem on their hands. It's not really a problem. It's an interesting story. But this is why it's not much of a problem if the warriors lost Draymond green for the rest of the season when they still be your favorite if they lost Kevin Durant for the rest of the season last time that happened. They want seventy three games in season this team has emotional combustion because Draymond green has been their leader. And now they have suspended him and cost him money because it would appear that they're sensitive new star. Kevin Durant doesn't like some of the wording and his teammates agree with them and cited with Kevin Durant. And makes me think that this was the explosion of a festering resentment that has changed the relationship of a lot of people in that locker room since they got together in the Hamptons before all the winning as someone who sought before the season. This would be yet another slow relentless slog to another warriors championship. I am delighted thank you dream on green on behalf of content, creators everywhere. Thank you for this gift. Now, the reason. This fight is so particularly delightful is because there are serious questions about the future of the franchise in Durant. You've gotta star who might walk next season in the warriors. You've got a team who just cited with him by suspending drain on Draymond. You've got a guy who turned out a contract because he reportedly wants a supermax from the warriors, which he's less likely to get if Kevin Durant stays now. Compounding all of this deliciousness. The fact that it's Draymond green who brought Kevin Durant to the warriors in the first place now to be clear, I still think it sends a warriors championship. But at least it got a little bit more interesting. The warriors are always telling you that. They're light years ahead of everyone else in terms of thinking if I'm them, you know, what I'm doing right now as I've sided with Kevin Durant over Draymond green. My emotional leader. I'm going to Kevin Durant. Saying, hey, what is the team we need to have here for you to stay here. Because we want to stay out in front of everybody. They should be trying as hard as they can to keep him. Even if it means getting rid of Draymond green. I can't believe this the you know what I mean? This team is going to fall apart. Lebron going to make the final I go from the east. He's a lucky guy. I can't win then other final. Lebron? Told him to do it. Maybe maybe point maybe. Maybe I say good point. Did the NFL get it right by? Okay. The the NFL get it right by moving the chief Rams game from Mexico City LA, I hope that they started this a little early. So you can see that lovely interaction between these two. But once the players started telling you that they might not play in the game that they might boycott it because this is a league where the players and the owners are partners and everything needs to be collectively bargain. Of course, you then have to move that game. Once the players are telling you that football, which is inherently unsafe that that field is to save for their careers in their futures. You have to listen to the players. It's their bodies on that one. I am just so relieved that this game is still happening that we get to see these heavensent offenses meet up. I have been waiting for this for so long. I forgot my own anniversary this year until the day of. But I have had this game marked on my calendar for eight weeks. Do not ruined it for me. And if L Now, Dan is right. This is about player power because NFL. Really wants to make Mexico happen, which makes a lot of sense. Geographically, temporally it works out. But you know, what would hinder those plans to expand into Mexico? Having one of the players on one of the two best teams in the NFL tear their ACL Mexican field. So while this is a short term problem for the NFL long-term. I think it was the right decision. I can't wait to see the grand. So you see what last week all? That's right. They beat up her beloved Seok second time the season they've done it. Philip rivers been replaced by Russell Wilson is the guy who's always down eight points. No time out late field to go. Making this about the Felix. They'll make the right decision. He is really tired of this story. But it is a fascinating story that doesn't have a whole lot of precedent in the history of the sport where running back in his prime is sitting out an entire season that he would have made fourteen point five million dollars on an order to protect against future. Earnings. You cannot blame him for doing this chosing his health. It's actually a pretty brave thing. But he's gonna find out with the rest of them the with the rest of us whether or not this works when he gets oh for the love of God. I can't keep doing this. The degree of difficulty on this. Trying to show here. So this is like a conflict. This is a complicated question. Okay. From a financial perspective. I think it's undeniable that lady on bell probably lost. Now. There's no way of knowing how much is going to give next season. But the forty million dollars in lost earnings will probably not make. I'm really get through. This guy's probably not made up. It's also impossible to assess the risk that he would have gotten a career ending injury. This series. It's also impossible to assess probably would have got got an a career ending injury this season you cannot account for that risk. But the question was delay me on bell make the right decision to which I say, I don't know. You don't know. You're not lady on, you know. You know, what matters to him before the season. He said he didn't care about money heard about being values, and he cares about being happy. And those are intangibles that we cannot out for on a television show where it oh, man. Oh, man. I'm trying to talk about a very complicated subject. Not for the second team in Butler in the seventy Sixers play tonight that was amazing method acting by my father veritable Daniel day Lewis on that Jimmy Butler playing against Orlando. And what I wonder about what this team is what I will continue to wonder about. They are better. They have a better player you always trade for that better player, but I'm concerned about their shooting. Jimmy, Butler doesn't fix their outside shooting. They took a bunch of veterans shooters last year that are no longer on the team. And now the only thing that's left is JJ Rennick. They don't have a lot of people could shoot from distance in a league where that is being valued more than it ever has been. How do I expect him to play? Well, it's Orlando or the course of the season. It gets a little bit more complicated because with Jimmy Butler is Dan explain you do get a lot of pros and cons pro. He's one of the best players in the NBA con. He doesn't add that much in the way of spacing. And losing Robert Covington in a trait doesn't help their either. Pro it gives the Sixers. A second scoring option alongside Joel Embiid Khan. He's probably going to give them a lot of wedgies. Just so many wedgies Marquel. Helpful spend Simmons just going to get so many wedgies from Jimmy Butler. Now, I like the move because I think if they hadn't done at the conference would have moved past them, and they had to stay competitive. But I'm still not sure if it's going to work out. Get another where you when you were a kid did. Yes, I did from the locker rooms from the bathroom. Yes. From him from poppy after games Terry me back to the car that way. Load like a six pack. Six pack and one. Could never broken. Never done that right now, you'd be on television or one of your arms would be so much larger than the other. If you've done that a weird joke. Yeah. Carmen on. Tony take team max vice I'm retired. I hope that they got on camera her muttered, she summoned the macho man, Randy savage because she was excited when the producers told us in our ear. This is the team mex- story t Mak went on the jump yesterday. And this is what he had to say about mellow unsleeping retire. I really do. I don't want him to go through another situation like this and people just are just poor negatively on this man legacy. I really think because it hasn't worked out the last two teams. Go ahead, and you have a hall of fame career score. And let it go. I love the Tracy McGrady was a great player during his time a hall of Famer. But he seems to forget that he was also at the end of that time a player for the same Tonio Spurs. You've probably forgotten that to because he didn't retire when he's telling this kind of retire. I don't blame any guy in that league that tries to milk that fountain of youth for as long as he can kinda sounds like Tracy McGrady learned from his mistakes. Now, look, I just said we should let. Lady on bell make his own decisions. And so be hypocritical of me to come out and say, yes, Carmelo Anthony time to retire. But from a basketball point of view, it's undeniable that sunset has arrived. I mean, his shooting has declined defenses feudals on off numbers tell a pretty obvious story. And if he went somewhere like say, Los Angeles to try to finish his career, then Tracy's, right? He would receive far more criticism than he's gotten already by the way has an added bonus Tracy McGrady also played in China for a while basketball and did some baseball in the minor leagues. You remember this stuff, right and mail. Please come to Miami down here. You know what? I mean, these become south is rainy Cicely got. I mean, you got. See two, you know, two full Ryan, I tell you one thing I tell you what. I tell you what. Stay away from my, you know, don't come to Miami. Highly questionable. Clung? Like a cartoon cigarettes in like an anti-smoking. Knock with. Just publicity that they celebrate in national pickle day. I'm pickle, poppy. Do you quest? The on topics and events question. The amazing pick Leaney. Do you question it? This will look chat. You may have heard the pronunciation of this hockey players named for the islanders. Tom gold. It's in the area. Here was this lucky by boy back into the cork at rain city. Copper off come together. Commerce lost to stick wounds at island. Oh that is not lucky. He put that on there. No, they're not a good goal. The quick turn. Trying to get the get it on that. Terrible. Well that is. Yes. Yes. That also is true. And if we knew the name of the Vancouver taper we would bury him right now. If I knew anything about hockey, I would have something to say let me get the street that guy is core. That's not the type of hokey that I like this kind of. Okay. I like. Kennedy. Good with the. This is the hockey I know in love on this show. A real bear. Wow. Would double at you issue. Colin. Video hockey the end. I do know that that was not hockey Paki. Do your question. My clone is and then you'll never forget that is a good name MAC clone that is excellent Georgetown as a freshman. They Mack McLarty has a freshman who can do some things. Judicial McCloy clang. Neck attack? But now, I know that the club that is not what I was expecting him to look like. In the second half. This is what we have. Snacks clung MacLagan. Mclaughlin. Nachman clung like a cartoon cigarettes in like an anti-smoking his. Just. It really does. That was my clunker. So that was a clunker. Do your question. If this was a good for by the kipper the way that you call that is Switzerland. Poppy, Switzerland is where we're going and we've got to shame keeper in Switzerland. Because we love our obscure soccer around here. What do we have? New shaming him before at all. The thing we do keepers. What are they in the suburbs? The ad book. I met to do that I'm gonna lean on my elbow. And he was trying to figure out a way to fake an injury. Chant. Well, I've seen it worst drop. Yeah. This is the worst drop fathers, right? That is a ten thousand dollar. Spirits. Oh, yeah. Are you kidding me? Getting my hands and knees and started drinking. That's what my Bill. Everybody doesn't work. Pain dirty nightclub floor. Question broadcasts from the hotel southeast Miami. Needs to clear, his search piece three C Ono really didn't need to know that you tell us what to watch on TV tonight. We tell you if we're intrigued. On NBA league past grizzlies and bucks. The bucks are looking legit that boot and holds our offense is getting everybody shots, including brook Lopez. He is now with the Milwaukee Bucks, and he is raining down from far away in this new NBA. I am not making this up for many years. Now, I would say about five every year the Miami Heat get a phone call. Hey, what propo- petty? The answer's always. No, thanks. And then they hang up. Five or six years straight. I'm not making that up that's brook Lopez's raining down fury from on high. I mean, are you intriguing? Yes. I read somewhere that books. Make name is splash mountain. Apparently, he's Disney fan. It's a small world was taking my Isaiah proper view and tree CC ever, treat you. Everybody's talking about the books are seeks home these year. These tell you one thing decrease lease. They have these this left in the center from Spain Margus sold these guys going to get a fire tonight. You know, he's going to he's going to win the difference in the game tonight, America only going to come through for the grizzlies. You know that is going to disrupt that winning streak that that that the both enjoy Gonzalo. He's siding with him because he's Latin as opposed to brook Lopez. Tino center, Marcus. On TV, Germany, sports panorama. German television has televised a professional soccer player in Germany answering some questions math questions. How'd that go? Through the forum photos on freak does he beat the country's rights. All it's we should elephant leniency. The vanity multiple Z Tepa to on a country. That's no Melinda. Beat them. Two. These mall Minsk. Seek Mon seeping six hundred. Days. Okay. Checking in with Germany for the math skills. Interesting choice. There you intrigue, but not surprised soccer players are known for using their heads. Intrigue CC, very intriguing number two. That's impressive. Give me one. I'll show you. How do it? Okay. Eleven times fourteen forty five. Is that right? No. Fifty one. No. More three thirteen time seven thirty seventies held her then team. No he's coming. He's sort of just fly into the neighborhood. Twelve times seventeen held for the that was quick, you know, he doesn't matter where that right real quick. Going. Streaming on animal planet dot com. Cater boys. Oh, these guys removed Gators from unwanted places. I don't know that there are a lot of places where Gators are wanted necessarily. But let's check in with the unwanted one. You know, it's real hot outside and people wanna go swimming. And there was about a seven and a half a reason why they couldn't swim. How do get him out jump in and grab them. Now what he's doing is. He's you know, he's working the alligators and tires around. Take your time. I finally got him position. I was gonna put him over my head. And I said, you know, what I think he's ready. Watch. Mousa open. The danger of the way I pulled him out was I was too far behind this rule gave spins actually swing around and could actually to write the head. Fun to watch check safe. But it goes on the other side of interesting too. The those water. Dinosaurs are scary to some we call those lizards in south Florida. Those are all over the place out here. Meaner you intrigue. Ten gator after watching. They let the gator live popular you and tree. Oh, CC very cheap imprinted with these two guys. You know, that was a small gator. They you see you see the guy fighting that gator here down Florida. You know, we and he's like, I know. That's right. You told me right there. That guy. That's the key. Gator. These pull out of a. Is that a scene from happy? That's forever. 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The Case Of The Mysterious Raptors Autograph

The Free Agents

23:14 min | 1 year ago

The Case Of The Mysterious Raptors Autograph

"Today's episode of no Dunks is brought to you by remarkably remote. A new daily micro cast from the experts at Goto. Meeting all about making work from home work for you with indispensable. Intel on how to stay sane motivated and productive at home. We're here to help you. In this brave new remote working world find us on smart speakers or subscribe on your favorite podcast APP. You can also listen at gotomeeting dot com slash tips. That's Goto meeting dot com slash tips. Good morning sweet world from the no dunks podcast and the athletic it's the case of the mysterious raptors autograph. One story told well just today it is April first twenty twenty but I promise. What you are about to hear is not a prank. I'm Jay skeets and joining me from the best buy payphones. We've got task smells the bearded one. Trey Kerby and are super producer. Jd THE OZZY. Leelee so shook by last night's development that he couldn't even bring himself to talk about it. We'll catch up with him later today on our beach. Step in podcasts. Yes last night a scandal rocked the NBA Twitter. World and tasks you were at the forefront of it all. Why don't you take us back to the night of March thirty first and how? This all went down while skates. I've gotta take you to the morning of March thirty first. Oh I because the athletic tweeted. What's the most random piece of sports memorabilia? You own drop a photo in the comment so I went into my Kia cubbyhole wall unit thing jake and I started digging. I saw a back to back Toronto Blue Jays. Coca-cola can took a photo of that was going to drop it in but that's not to random not random enough and I did remember. I had this raptors program which I purchased in a silent auction signed by Vince Carter. I paid one hundred twenty five dollars for it as a lot of money about twenty two years ago so I took a photo that dropped it in the comments and you know there are some jokes May. The athletic was very excited. They said incredible Our friend of the program Luke. Bonner commented on Charles Oakley's uniform which is a blank knicks uniform. That they just photoshop. The number out of Kevin Willis is on the cover Doug Christie is on the cover vince. Carter's cover from his draft day photo. Tracy McGrady D Brown John. Whilst you know it's just not a lot of engagement wasn't really happy with the amount of engagement that happened initially but besides that nothing happened until nine o'clock eastern Vince Carter himself retweeted the photo with the caption. Hate to be the bearer of bad news. But that's not my signature. That's Alvin Williams autograph. Who is another former rafter. Not even on the program. He claims it was Alvin Williams autograph and then Alvin Williams tweeted. That's not my signature bro. Crying face crying face. Looks like John Wallis's then we're I was. I was thrown for a tizzy I started to look at. I started to look at the autograph and I thought. Okay Well Alvin Williams. I mean. That's a pretty weird signature for Alvin Williams. A kind of looks like an a. n. l. but then he goes into the right side of the W. and then stops on the left side of the W. and then has to put his pen back on for the next couple of letters and so i. I'm totally confused. I thought this was Vince. Carter AUTOGRAPH FOR DECADES. Does it does look at the top like it's a vc but then everybody started chiming in. Oh Oh no you're an idiot. There's a big W in the middle of it. There's no W in Vince. Carter's name which. Yeah hindsight shirt for nine hours. No one said a thing. But you're right in the balls in the air. No-one said at a single thing until Vince Carter claimed it wasn't his. And then people started sending me screen shots of John Wallis's autograph and and that look like an identical match. John Wallace played for the next played for the raptors for a little bit played for another couple teams and he is on the cover of well of this raptors program. So it's definitely John Wallis autograph and that was essentially the night people making fun of me because I thought that was Vince. Carter autograph for decades and I was told when I purchased this into silent. Auction wasn't told John Wallis's autograph. No offense I probably wouldn't have paid one hundred twenty five dollars. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have or even Alvin Williams who I absolutely adored and raptors fans should loved. He played until his knees fell off. Probably at the biggest shot and Raptors history winning the playoff series for a long time the only playoff series win clinching against the New York Knicks. In Two thousand one he is adored by Raptors fans and I adored him as well but probably wouldn't have paid one hundred twenty five dollars for Alvin Williams signature at the time either and that's the scandal that rocked the NBA sort of It brought a smile to people's faces for for a few minutes. Oh I was laughing so hard a couple of times because yeah like you said there was the first development of Vince saying. Hey man that's not mine and then. I think it's Alvin Williams. Okay that's funny as it is and then Alvin Williams driving yeah. I don't think that's my either. I'm not even on the cover for crying out loud. I was loving this. Just can we go back from like what you can remember? You said the silent auction. Obviously I guess in the late Ninety S. This didn't come with any sort of certificate. I guess right like wasn't very official silent auction. You're one hundred percent correct seeds but I do remember asking for a certificate of authenticity I was I was smart enough back. As a teenager to request certificate of authenticity this was at a fundraiser. For Marfan Marfan Syndrome which my sister worked for she was. It's a nonprofit for the disease that a lot of athletes actually have if you remember Isaiah Austin in twenty fourteen He was I thought I thought he was going to be drafted and four days before the NBA draft was diagnosed with Marfan Syndrome and the NBA said. Listen it's IT'S. It's not safe for you to play basketball. And so he joined Adam Silver as an honorary pick in the draft that season but a lot of athletes and NBA players. Have the disease. It's disrupts connective tissue. And I it. It affects a lot of tall long people. So that's why basketball players and athletes have the condition. Fortunately for Isaiah Austin. He was not able to play in the NBA. And still isn't I don't believe he has gone overseas after a couple of years of treatment and has played overseas. So that's when I signed or that's what I purchased it at that at that fundraiser. And I suppose somebody from the Raptors Organization gave Marfan the organization. They're an autograph program and said Hey. This is Vince Carter autograph only with without the obviously the knowledge that John Wallace was one of those auctions. I'm sure a lot of people have seen before where the item is sort of like all the items are out. And then you go up and you write your name down on a sheet of paper of your bid is that right. Yes so there's a yeah exactly single sheets in front of every single item and I went up to this single sheet of paper that had zero bids on it at the time and the starting bid was suggestive at one twenty five and so I started off. I was the first and only name on there. I bid one hundred twenty five dollars. Nobody else bid a dollar for this John Wallace Alvin Williams. Vince Carter signature and that was that I went home with the The program that I still have to this day and that Sharpie is still shining through and you can still see the w. l. l. on there now task just to confirm you were allowed to peruse the goods before you put your head down onto this sheet of paper right because one of my favorite comments from last night was somebody who said. Was this also a blind auction but you guys tell me you've looked at it you know signatures are basically scribbles. Yeah it could DEFA definitely be a VC TO START. It could be an er at the end of it. The W is the puzzling. Yeah in the in the middle of this thing. But it's a weird. It's a weird signature for John. Wallace's well yeah basically has just signed John Wall. It looks like there's no us now. Is this John Wall signature? Yeah that'd be really trippy. Yeah no I actually. You're right I mean now we look at it and go. There's a Damn W in it like you were saying this definitely. Isn't Vince Carter? But I hear you on that that first top part looking like a VC and then and then the idea that Vince Carter just wrote after after his initials could maybe by that story. But otherwise. And I guess now how really when you look at it John. Wallace has done the thing. Where he's he's touching himself on the program you know with his signature like he didn't sign it. Sort of down by Kevin Willis or Tracy McGrady he. You know it's hitting hitting brown a little bit and done Christie's face but it really is. He starting sort about his arm there on the program. But yeah right this incredible. It's sort of. It's the Bermuda Triangle of programs. Though right I mean I look at it. I look at it now and I think there's so much going on this thing. So it's sort of puzzling. I I wouldn't have. I didn't even examine the signature all that all that much and it could have been a blind auction. It could've been for sure but now looking at it with the Charles. Oakley photo shopped uniform. I guess he was traded just before they started making these programs. Even Vince. Carter is a jersey. That doesn't have a number on it because it's his draft a photo. I assume this is nineteen ninety eight right before the season started. They started making these programs even before. The guys were in uniform but it was a program for a game for that ninety eight ninety nine season. And it's a puzzling one. It's a wild one while the good thing is is that you did get John Wallace's signature at the peak of his career. Come off the ninety eight season with the raptors eighty. Two Games fourteen points per game. That's a career high Yep I shall give you ten dollars for it to be about the going rate for John Wallace autographs on Ebay about ten bucks. Yeah we got some. I got some good comments. Saying you know that you're one hundred. Twenty five dollars is definitely worth it. Now after getting an Alvin Williams Vince Carter commenting about it. And and maybe one day we can get. Vc and Alvin talking about it on the program as well do a real deep dive and try and figure out what the heck happened at this at this silent auction but I was happy to one hundred twenty five dollars to the cause and and and it's worth a couple of hundred dollars at this point. Yeah I definitely got. My money's worth so can we confirm. Do we know if John Wallace is on twitter like he has not chimed in and one hundred percent confirmed? It's even though we're pretty sure it is because we've seen other autographs. He's not is not on twitter. I do not think so. I I googled it and I got a lawyer named John. Wallace John John Wallace. The original basketball player. But it's definitely is as people did their investigative work themselves. It looks very much like John Walls but my friend friend of the program. Mike Kaplan also tweeted or sent me his autograph of John Wallace. That he's got he's mixed fan and it's it's not a hundred percent likeness. Either so John. Wallace has gone through a few iterations autograph. I believe as well yes. This is an early vintage wallace as the true collector's. No so okay. Here's one question I have. You said you obviously didn't cherish this sports memorabilia. All that much because like you didn't have this up on a wall. You didn't have it like you know in your office. You said it was like tucked away in like a little cubby. Is that right? This was not out in your house. I've never seen this before. Absolutely right okay. It was just something that I thought Vince. Carter took a Sharpie to real quickly and handed it off to a staffer at the raptors. I assume and because there was no certificate of authenticity. I wasn't card collecting game back then so I did have a somewhat of a nose for a try understanding that things were fake out there. And so yeah. It was just something that I got and I had never never really Thought too much about what's totally forgotten about it. I thought my most random piece was the back-to-back bluejays ninety two ninety. Three world series can until I found that visa. It got me look. I was pretty happy about it. We got me looking at Divan. Whites triple triple play. That wasn't over and over and over again last night the VC thing as you. I'm sure you guys wouldn't put it on a wall. Either right no no. I don't think so yeah. I don't think I'm hanging up program. It's not that big either right like I mean. It's just the size of a sheet of paper maybe even smaller than that. It's a standard by eleven. A great addition to a shrine. Like if you already have a Vince Carter Alvin Williams or John Wallace Shrine. Shurmur throw a program up there but it's probably not a standalone piece of Art Yeah but now you could take like you could take the tweets almost print them cool like sorta montage sorta piece of art really telling the story here of this mysterious autograph. I don't know there's something there definitely got some tweet. Suggesting that a start printing those tweets and frame them Like have you flip through the program or have you never even opened it just pretty sure I have never opened oils from your hands will ruin the program very dangerous. It's like a comic book. Yeah you say that and I am pretty astonished at how the Sharpie has lasted. This is twenty two years we're talking. It's twenty twenty. This was signed in nineteen ninety. Eight I mean the the sharp has faded somewhat. I didn't put it in any sort of protective scrudem case or anything. It's just a it's it's living on its own. It's it's pretty impressive. That vce side vce. I still don't believe that he didn't sign and then And then we'll signed it at the bottom or as you said skates we VC. Leave we will see that to a deal do you have any other raptors or MBA memorabilia? That is signed by anyone else. Because now I'm worried that all the stuff you might have is just straight up. No I I went through quickly This other box that I have from when I was a kid. The it's one of those old card boxes the sort of like a white paper on the outside their cardboard but it's it's white on the outside but I got a bit of a larger one. That's sort of the size of eight by eleven that is labeled with bubble letters with smelly markers that I that I made on on top of it all the signatures from each NHL team something to that effect. So so. Because I 'cause I mailed and requested autographs from each of the NHL teams back. When I was I don't know eight or something and so there's a bunch of photos in there. I met Rick Talk at once. Unless that wasn't the real everything is a sham. Now Yeah Right. So there's Iran tug nut who knows it could be a Rick Tavarez that because Darren pooper. There's some there's some fakes in there. I always astonished. There's definitely some pen to paper. There's some sharp you to paper. There's some print That that weren't on whatsoever. But I was always taken aback when I saw an actual autograph. So yeah there's some some definitely definitely some autographs in there and it's it's odd to going back to the ninety eight ninety nine season. This was the lockout shortened season in the NBA. There was time for people to to verify. Things So put the proper number of Charles Oakley Jersey on their Flank Jersey. Charles Oakley is in a Blank Jersey. Grabbing a rebound. It's a weird or even. Vc The legend. That is Vince. Carter doesn't have a number on his Jersey but the raptors thought there on the up and up this and I guess I did too. I guess I did too snapshot is looking at this thing. You Got Tracy McGrady on this thing in a rafters uniform yet. Vince Carter. This was this was. This was a good time in raptors lower before things Phil Apart. I am fascinated by like where the mistake happened or the relaying of information went wrong. Was it the raptors sending this to the foundation for their silent auction and they thought like they mistakenly said Oh. Here's a signed Vince. Carter Program or was it the foundation who received this and then like John Wallace. Who the heck's going to bid on that looks enough like Vince Carter. Let's just throw Vince. Carter Down Nixon Really. I mean I think those are the only two the two avenues where could have gone wrong right? I think there's a third I wouldn't put the onus on the The foundation trying to pull the wool over my seventeen year old. Oh No oh come on now. This is a nonprofit. For God's Okay I think the what was told to the foundation by the Raptors organization was. We'll get you something. Probably they're told that. Hey we'll get you vince. Carter's autograph and then there probably wasn't any sort of a background check done when they got this The person didn't know anything about basketball. I was told I my sister did. Tell me that The the organiser had no idea what basketball was and so she heard bits Carter and so she went with it. I know I know. Vince is obviously a raptors legend NBA. Legend but I do like that. Is John Wallace? Because from what? I always remember John Wallace doing that. Slick move or he would turn his back to the defender and then go behind his back with the dribble and then sort of cup. It and go base. I always remember calling that the John Wallace which he obviously had done at one point sort of like an an one looking type of move a street legend type of move so at least at least he's got echo inform and like say pretty had a pretty good year for their APPs. Sounds like you got a buyer tassie very interested in buying. This seems like you and Mike Kaplan who has a knicks very pumped. I guess you throw that move. I have no recollection of that. But he seems to be a bit of a New York legend you've played at Syracuse. And maybe he's got some New York street ball in them guessing. Yeah I really I want this now to be like this this piece of this piece of memorabilia this raptors tonight program. I want this to be like a secret. Seen in uncut gems where before Cagey is bidding on the Opel? We've got Kaplan me. Bidding on this antacid overtake opened. It goes for at least one hundred and fifty dollars or something like that they gotta slipped into the into the BLU ray. Dvd RELEASE OF UNCUT GEMS. I think there's something there as long as John Wallace. The lawyer doesn't get involved. I think we're good any other questions when it comes to this trae not any other questions just generally. I'm kind of over true. Crime podcast but in the quarantine like this. This is exactly the kind of true crime content we need and I'm sure you guys don't have any more questions but throw some more insults at me. Pretend your twitter for a second because twitter. Absolutely they confirmed it. They were the captain obvious afterwards for hours and hours and hours. Oh yeah urine. Idiot is a huge W in the middle of it. Lots of jokes the blind auction as he said lots of good ones so go ahead. Rip Me a quick quick new joke. Go ahead you're a good sport and March sucked. So this was a great way to end the actual. Because I was like I said in tears seeing this coming our agents love this. I mean they were. They were like right in our WHATSAPP group chat. Oh my God jess Vince. Carter says that's not him now? Alvin Williams says that's not him so no no no. We'll let twitter come with the hilarious jokes and insults and you fool and stuff like that. This was great. So let's call it there Yeah the case of the mysterious raptors autograph. It is salt. We think John Wallace but until I hear it from his mouth Specifically who knows it could be anybody's it's probably Lee Ellis. He likes to CY. Nba players names. When it's not him so I'm GonNa go with Lee Ellis until John. Wallace tells US otherwise all right we will have a brand new beach step in podcast coming up soon later today here on Wednesday so make sure you subscribe and download the podcast. Wherever you listen to podcasts. We'll talk to you guys soon.

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USA UPSTART AT TEAM USA lost twice prostrate I hope you're all cut up now shout out to our producer Michael Bodmer for putting all that together I'm Rachel Nichols alongside our senior writer host of the Post podcast new baby the headlines and landed a deep draft nights I was the number one pick and everyone cry won the MVP Marcus smart picked on rappers nineteen NBA Chaffetz. Yeah there's where we left off in the end of the season but between and now there's been a few things here's everything we're not allowed to fist-bump I've explained this to ready to white can't happen this is the hall of Famer Mr Tracy McGrady and this is how we know it's time for real basketball out for six to eight weeks with a torn meniscus in his right knee stick around to find out how science injury will impact NBA fans outside of New Orleans. I though is he is back I am so thrilled it's GonNa Count it's actually going to count tonight I cannot wait coming up we found out yesterday that Zion Williamson I have a chance to hold Larry in June so buckle up because the season tips tonight and you're going to need a lot more than three minutes for everything that's about to happen experiencing an earthquake that just turned out to be a tremor for the biggest news this summer quite MPG coolest cool it's opening day the two thousand nine hundred twenty NBA season tips off in less than five hours when the defending champion raptors host the well Yeah No Zion Pelicans I was reunited with her to the MVP Iraq. Everyone wanted to Masha shack and nobody wanted to dance with Yokich this I brought back the fundamental can't wait to see his sideline sciences a book on a boat while they were dressed like Aladdin because of course they were held did not breeze over our did go back to US Angeles they'd repairs I'm excited to be back on the team Blake the junk man but then he as Radley withdrew from Team USA Germany's layup lines and somehow controversial Portland broke out the bag for its backboard but the biggest game of the night sorry world series is the nightcap between the Lakers and clippers both la teams went all in four Leonard this summer it did have an impact in China Dame had her battle said he fell in love with basketball again and then switched to three three hundred million dollar man when he wwe Bell love travel the world the MBA experience opened its doors in Orlando Fifties and delivered on a new earlier today Lebron said he thought Kawai with coming to the Lakers at one point and then was asked this follow up question decision Lebron James also regular season form quite decision to join the Clippers made a lot of fans outside of Los Angeles also happy just General Nba fans like if he joined the Lakers Lebron ad like why play the regular season engines hard embattled attorney who saw the best ever Boston Celtics hats off the show stop whisper and see three traded places tatum was scared of lobster for good breezes who's rock this outfit and he's worked for it and then he dropped out to USA along with Kevin Booker let us know down the off seasons in three and a half minutes raptors one at all and guy a gift for fun I think Hawaii asked a very important question he hates double teams in two zero Kristaps Porzingis transformed into five and drama at brought Tim's at the Beach Pat Riley d air out when you got Kawhi Leonard Paul George Great Defensive Tina Clippers next door and Lebron James being that he it also look there's a question of the expectations now for both teams so who is going to be more disappointed at the end of the season which families get a d. and his his past years with the Pelicans he's kind of been injury-prone a little bit right so now plan with a brand -tations is extremely high he has to deliver being in a laker uniform. Ben Lebron James's teammate I just don't know how that's going to yeah I know I'm hackel ball except maybe if you're at present the Lakers winning preseason game and then warns the voice tweet can I ask you know don't go ask why thank you I'm happy Thanksgiving I have no idea this guy's Jimmy Buckets Tamiami dealer to the warriors eighty two degrees Sean whiteside Portland the sixers stole out the Lakers fan base and I say that because I look at look at Lebron Lebron is going to be thirty five years old this year right we're getting surgery to address a meniscus tear in his right knee just to do the math for you if you took the full two months he wouldn't be making his MBA debut until the week before Christmas the question is who is more likely to disappoint yes I think neither to be clear is going to disappoint but if I had to pick a WHO's more likely to the point I would actually go with the clippers because I think the and we'll have to see if that happens I want to get to the Pelicans though because man that's a team that had excitement had a lot of disappointed fans yesterday when they announced the Zion we'll miss six to eight weeks so that's a while there's still uncertainty as to how and Wednesday and injured his knee earlier today though Pelicans GM David Griffin spoke about the injury to reporters take a listen early on certainly have serious injuries you've got a fair question about Lebron with his age which I think is what turning thirty five in December of Tracy said and they injury mostly you know I've I've seen a lot of the narrative out there about him that this happened because he's not in shape and he's too big that kids a freak of nature go off by the time it was a number of players changed teams now a whole bunch of teams he's an elite condition and he stays in elite condition he also has a body type that we're learning how to deal with a nineteen year old kid as we've gone through this griff not holding back there at all do you agree with them that his weight isn't a problem I don't think he was injured because they should just be happier in the playoffs relevant this is six straight years in the lottery they've been an embarrassment this is this is a good time for them Lakers fans are not just happy to make the playoffs so he's nineteen it's going to be learning experience for all of us but the notion that this happened somehow because Zions in poor condition is just asinine here's injury of his career was last season it's the flipside of having these teams everyone is so excited about is they now we're going to have to spend this season paying that off we're GonNa do things to strengthen those areas in this case he gained muscle mass so fast and gained weight so fast no one's ever dealt with anybody like him before success for our medical team learning how they're going to keep him lean and giving him the core strength and stability and control he needs typically that means that he's out of shape I think he's in great shape but I think he's too big I think to eighty planet to eighty the style of play he plays is entirely too big and find but if I had to pick who's more likely clippers adorable that you don't think Lakers fans think the Lakers are winning the title this year those expectations are just as high for those fans if they load manage quiet all and Paul George has more time they could be the fourth seed the fifth seed and from there just getting out of the West is really really hard so I think both teams are going to be great sustain that for eighty two games this is what can happen to them and this is what I suspect that would happen to him if he was to have a low jeopardy these thirty five who was there closer GonNa have to beat a closer is he capable of doing that at thirty five years old a tough burden so I I like what I see on it just about where the money is coming in our experts pick I think are is is more clippers anyone else and Paul George is going to miss the first ten games the there's a chance or I will say in defense he hasn't been injury prone the last few seasons last season he missed some games because there's a little issue with the trade thing and they held him down paper with the clippers the Lakers said thirty five a lot of times you're concerned about seventeen years and leaves he will be thirty five in December he's right that part of the narrative is poor condition but I think a lot of the people that he's addressing are just saying he's big he's a big dude who jumps really high dunks a lot and comes down hard a lot and griffin like this now do you feel like the Pelicans are smart to pull him back right away they give him an MRI without even really there being a problem he just said he had knee soreness and they're like Oh my God put him in eight eighty two eighty his size the way he plays the game he has to get to suit to sixty yeah griffiths griffiths talking about a narrative and himself said you know we were learning his body type we're learning what it means to be that age that that vertical and that heavy and we don't know so now he's out for what's that compete hard at a high level every night now Alvin gentry could get these boys compete at a high level every night they get them shades theirselves a chance and their deep nine hundred ninety seven eighty have you ever heard someone Kobe Bryant young man hundred million dollar plus contracts will end up being the best investment from the two thousand sixteen Dr Class which one though stick around to find out I though it's time for our distant replay this date march and April and their seventh eighth ninth they're in it I hope that their funds a fun team to watch the crowd I hope gets like embraces their style of play to share you play the long game for sure well there's a couple other people watching though I williamson the Pelicans are scheduled to be on ESPN TNT combined season. I don't I could be wrong the MVP people will call me but I don't think these are I think these are I think you're gonNA see a lot of the Pelicans it stinks stinks last season enough surge made Qui- eat penis pizza what what is the most exotic food you've ever tried if you wanna be deep if you really want to run you gotta be deep they will be on television so get behind your holiday people he isn't really fun to watch coming up one of these college atmosphere that's what I want here's what I know these guys are going to be well coached they're going to get up and down to play in their young so if they come in and play every night every team in NBA does this is their youth and they have like a crazy homecourt advantage we want to make the playoffs in year one without Anthony Davis like that would be awesome if every Pelicans home game down the stretch was just must watch loud six to eight weeks eight really going to have to watch he's going to have to be on a strict diet you know because he's he can't run around can't do anything so it's it's very pivotal for them nine times nine times between now and Christmas Day so just for all of these Zach I I don't think some games are switchable or the machine and take care of it and they're keeping them out now for six to eight weeks they are being super careful they should I mean is this kid is the future for this franchise and there's no you don't rush them back to get the Buddhist Wallace this is back then we're talking about preseason them to find out what it is they have to do to keep him on the week Casey obviously had knee problems and different every every new problem is different but when you see guy with knee problems Gobi Make Miss Maker mislead baby thank you make Miss Appetite Serge Ibaka may have one of my favorite shows ever he's hosted Kevin Durant this is an exotic -tations are higher I I think they're considered the championship favourite in the League no hall Georgia's GonNa yet there'd be odds-on Vegas has them as favoring says both these teams but I never I always want new balance okay it puts fun guy right on the shoes I mean he's a fun guy thing go down on the court so man new balance Hell the pop event to provoke cock wise new shoes checkout Kawhi taking them out of the box now team Mak I know you're all about that three stripe with that Michael Jordan sat down with the today show and said he doesn't play pickup anymore he macaroni surprised being in my home watching fucking for five hours okay he pence I'm not gonNA say the second time I said it last year when he did it I lied almost anything I mean seriously comes out of this snake absolutely I want to turn our attention to the rookie scale contract extensions that were agreed to prior to yesterday's deadline Pasquale crm agreed to a four year one hundred thirty million dollars watch pokemon over the weekend four five hours straight Jacket Yokich was a pok mon what was his powers I don't really yeah I mean the man has so much love for the game of basketball though he'll be in the wheelchair trying to play down basketball so I am surprised I mean he has his own team uh-huh our friends who run the ESPN Social Media Department posed a very interesting question on I g yesterday which one hundred million dollars plus extension given to me organization on his team is talking smack like they still can score on Michael beat Mike in a game in one on one get back to jail later in the show miss down what kind of powers the pokemon things have just what's important is that Nicole Yokich never changes I'd never want him to change his perfectly he is do not change them point guard he could do a lot of things on the basketball court without even scoring he affects game in so many ways and I I'm not even going to say if you it's food anything how surges troll game though I'm not feeling they'll snake or peanuts whole oh right on the good wizard uniforms deserve it expansion with Toronto and Whoa broke the Jalen Brown news four years one hundred fifteen million dollars the celtics broke that Newsday yesterday still Ben Simmons for all the flack for all the criticism about his jump shot he has the potential right now to impact the game on all around basis more than those guys he is member of the two thousand sixteen draft will ultimately be the best investment so tracy we have crm Brown Ben Simmons and Jamal Murray who do you think talk show from the bleacher reports it's called how hungry argue Surrey made Katie eat snake hey no I don't know we also had John says that he watches a lot of reality TV show he likes the Kardashians so this is a new wave of NBA player Caroline guy hitting the area he was Serbia way of John Gotti now you gotta change that I don't know Hall of fame level passer already on the best passers at the League has ever seen already that said if the playoffs come around again and in round two he's just when he starts shooting the ball he will be to me the best player in the game show that may three if we're going to be showing that one it worth it for the money they're getting all of these guys are going to be a future all star Ben Simmons I have to go with because he is an all star already he's six ten career he's GonNa have to drop down to sixty maybe even get into fifties to eighty is to stand so you don't have dropped thirty pounds I mean the Dunker spot under the rim getting in the way and not doing anything this discussion opens backup because Siachen has another level to hit Jamal Murray if he starts chucking more off the dribble threes could be really special like Brandon Ingram Bogdan Bogdonovich guys are going to get paid but you look at Andre Drummond or Demar Derozan if he doesn't extend in San Antonio which by the way I think is still a possibility like also but we saw Lonzo there's still going to be fun to say they're going to play fast gotta be they're going to run up and down and let's hope they can just hang around because if they get the I wanna be special all these guys have the potential to be perennial all-stars I mean that's just what it is the Ben Simmons Right now this sixteen point guard look we have our first NBA regular season double header on ESPN and ESPN APP. Tomorrow I'm very excited as soon as the domino started going into buddy deal was a cascading effect after that you don't WanNa be the team that didn't extend guy pushes him into restricted free agency and then he's kind of the story than it was this past summer I think the Russia extensions we saw over this last twenty four hours if there were a couple teams they're on the fence should we extend the sky or not only chart chum out there right for other teams to look at it because that list is getting smaller and smaller coming up I promise you more Michael Jordan we're going to have more Michael Jordan he appeared on the today show to talk about it opening to health clinics and is Tequila company but it was his comments on Steph curry that set NBA twitter on fire. We'll discuss that next on the this is who we got on the right this coming summer and let's be honest Anthony Davis might not really be on the table Zach leagues GM's feel about this in an I. R. Customers ourselves what do you like about banking with ally I haven't Alabama savings account and was attracted to the competitive rate Dylan Jaylen Brown's really good so but right now it's still been I love all of those guys that are up there and see them yeah kind of under him last year but he he are a rebuilding team really signing those guys like what's the market for them going to be as well like what is the point for rebuilding team signed tomorrow's Andre Drummond it can be very interesting but yeah those this summer it it was a good class sast ever may be for moving around your free agency just in total forty percent of the leaks I knew contracts this past summer and pass with the best of them jump shot away and mentioned buddy healed because he in the kings agreed to an extension worth ninety four million dollars plus another twelve million in bonuses a lot I think for for a while that one the answer is still been shooting more D we'll we'll see when the game two games a real game start tomorrow for them the answers this is a restricted free agency if they couldn't reach deal number very dramatic on Friday talking about maybe they didn't want him but he has been moved over into the other column I kind of think you'd want to go down and play or what we see Tim Duncan gone out to competitive I don't know if I believe Michael in that because I know some of those guys that the teams with cap space are looking around today saying what what happened what are we going to sign who who still available and there are some big winners on that list teams are holding a lot of money and don't get a lot of players to spend it on I'll just say this free agency and twenty twenty is not going to save any- franchises facts that simple it's very different so this is who we got as the twenty twenty free agency market on the rates both restricted and unrestricted. I'm GonNa Call Your attention to the column on the left because this the Al Horford Bowl embiid and the sixers hosting Kemba and the Celtics at seven thirty eastern then we go to the Rose City for Yokich and the nuggets taken on Dame and the Blazers on Nikola Yoga forget a little soundbite for you take a listen to this but are you feeling these are all about the three strike now those include those for hey come on the Stephen A. is going to get it all started on sportscenter seven pm eastern catch it then and welcome back to the jump we are honored to be joined ATV go way too much my big brother thank you rinse your white go well why am I am thrilled when you come by and we begin talking to you thank you to you for being with us thank you to everyone there watching the job is so excited to start the season we'll see you tomorrow he'd be Clyde Drexler I'm saying I'm saying the personalities we know the difference between Michael and everybody else right don't we and this is been his personality you look at we celebrate all these things at trash talk the toughness being able to come right at people no matter what that away by him during the interview. MJ and Melvin shared some of his new Tequila and then this happens take a look steph curry loves them love Them I know this I can say that without anybody calling him now to say it was tampering years ago when I was told that but he josh we we we I know him that well I know you guys do to he's not grading on the curve but I also know from many conversations over the years steph curry is a player Michael's consistent and he's not going to give it into the hype those hall of Famers That Generation Hall of famers what are they always say you gotta go through the process that was six years ago what's happened in the league and six years would you keep the same for in a heartbeat when I'm going into trenches I played against in with all these guys he is a hall of Famer I'm saying that yeah I know how in Jay Leno Michael is he not giving him by the way if he did something else with who I know everything night their responsibility to go out there and represent greatness every single night steph curry shouldn't be offended me watches Hope of all shoutout to Mj for being loyal to our Guy Scotty love that full of on you know Michael better than almost anyone he didn't have to throw the hall of Famer thing in he loves steph curry this of course this is you hall of Famer I mean I look at it as someone asked you if you could pick for guys for you pick up team for guys that you play anybody else with her chemo is wrong magic Johnson Scottie Pippen and James Worthy wouldn't be Michael Jordan is like going back to the hall of fame speech get right people were so offended I'm like shut up if Michael didn't do that he wouldn't be Jordan he is what characterize him as much as the tongue wag and and switching hands all of that so now when he sticks to that when he's consistent the people want to see Oh my God he's insulting Steph Curry I I'm I'm glad tracy you didn't take it that way what I see the video he just looks like a guy having a little fun Dourdan is old school and he's right he he doesn't waver for anything for anybody he stick to who he is and because Steph is still planned he's still a great blurred not a hall of fame though so okay go ahead and although I will say though there is sort of an undercurrent among the older generation X. players who just don't seem ready to accept curry right from the fans the media they don't like that if Michael Jordan validates him as a hall of Famer come on but this isn't that what he said weird a lot other ways like steph curry he's a six man that's I think you should go all the way the other way I do I do know though I've talked to him about Steph also he loves Steph del Calls Games or he wasn't asked about twinkle in his eye this is Michael how you known him however I have no no no he this is what he does he likes to tweak any did this it came off to me in a light hearted way like the first thing remember people going crazy about this Michael sets that's not all of them stop he loves when the time comes you'll be there Mike was saying Steph curry is not a hall of fame review is sitting here he might tweak him some more but he will be often but no you have to go through the he's still writing his script his story he doesn't want to he's not gonNA put Stephan Hall of fame regularly I didn't take it as fame right now yeah that's what I mean I mean you can't get it what you guys mean about hey the process and he's not officially retired he's not officially gone through the waiting period and all that but he is a hall of fame steps when the time comes and you retire and gone to your entire career then you can be a hoping but he's consistently like that he's tough on people michaels our grading on the curve has only him from from the players that are playing right now why because but why point tracy that's a lot of players in this league that don't like everything that Steph is somebody else did Jerry Sloan and speaking of idols f they all gave the speech all just so that's what they did players in league don't like what Steph is getting I why he's at he's at him this year is one thing that's clear from just listening to people around the league they're coming he's done like a lot of his down Abbas he's that great but the point is these people are coming after you know how this league is I mean people it's isn't there to switch off a net backward in clay's the great defender that's out there am I right this that is it's all over the debt conversation is out there do I think steph national football you can't do some other sports that you can do it in basketball and this this is something I think theme we're going to be aware of early in this season holes in Chicago there right so I have seen this act for a long time remember we got in the hall of fame that night was David Robinson John Stockton who am I missing I I know I would've passed everybody through the gates what would we say then we'll say something I agree with you with that restrict the fact is they believe he's going to take this matchup take thirty five this particular night because clay than we thought Steve Kerr spoke to Logan dock from NBC Sports Bay Area About Klay Thompson timetable for recovery after tearing his ACL in game six of the for for the Hornets grew up there North Carolina Mike was to say he was a hall of fame you know how much hate he'll get steph get that he already had to step back and say I've been Mike I wouldn't have been Michael you know. NBA Games I ever covered ear so we have to understand that that was NBC Sports Bay Area Look Tracy there were people who thought Claes a quick healer he come back this past NBA finals were fans are hoping click in return before the playoffs but Kernot is optimistic guys he said quote it's unlikely he's going to play this the I I look at Scottish Scott knew what was coming I mean his poor high-school gene if he can get back right off the all-star break and he's filling one hundred percent his body is responding from the workouts practices should have come back if his team is in a running of making the playoffs zero games and it was to come back after the break that said I think the warriors are very smartly playing down expectations both for their team and for clay when Michael Jordan got up there and I was sitting there Stuart Scott and I believe in John Barry was sitting on a stage in our own seth and where Michael started they're knocking down the questions before anybody can ask and if they're in the playoff on and he's feeling good in April may who knows I don't know that that that has been definitively their historic equal which is a little bit there's just a little undercurrent of that so simple you know obviously tracy's right it's three time Mvp two-time Chevy's right now he can frontier go play call after the All star break if you're clay would you just approach this as a law season wait till next year no not at all I mean the goal is to come back and play and be on my team I think no just go ahead and sit out the whole season because wash I picked the warriors to miss the playoffs in part because I had a little inkling that Claes seasonal is going to be closer t I would love to have no idea like I do think Michael Jordan believes Steph curry believes it belongs in the so with that being said he's not a guy that is coming through the lane doc in doing all that craziness he's jump shooter so he could come back if they decided he wouldn't play here's the one thing that is going right for clay that I think coming off of this surgery is that he's not extremely athletic right he's a jumps say hey it's not worth it if they're not even close to a playoff berth that kind of thing but I want to see the person that tells Klay Thompson he can't play when he thinks he can play because that conversation

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Warring Warriors

High Noon

21:54 min | 2 years ago

Warring Warriors

"Hans yesterday. What's going on with the warriors? Have you get a little bit of a story and we had the chance to fall on overreact. And we did not because we didn't want to be seen as overreact need shows restrained because we are journalists because we have a sensual perspective. And I cannot wait to blow that got us nowhere. Then get nothing for it. Who's more who what people outta yesterday about our restraint or about? What's pot? This is going down. Today boasts so much is going we we gave them our third take here is our first name Draymond green. That's how we're starting this because dream on was spend without pay for last night's game after reportedly call and Kevin Durant. The b word multiple times during Monday's game. We were not sure yesterday. How big of a deal? This really was. But how does it feel today? This is a problem. Right. I don't think there's any way around. This fact is not the sort of problem that a team cannot play through it is possible that they are able to play through this. But they wound up in the situation where Draymond green was in the wrong. Yes, he should have passed the ball. And then he said a bunch of stuff that had nothing to do with what they were talking about. But stuff that other people may be agree with right? And so none of this exists in a vacuum. It's gone past the point of people being able to say, I'm sorry and everything's okay. And now they got a hold this all the way together. Publicly rebuking him. This is a relationship type argument. And by that, I mean, the argument that is on the surface is not the actual argument. The tip is the random turnover in November against the clippers that forces over time. The iceberg is how Kevin Durant feels about being on a team that does not seem to result in all of the adulation he hoped for it results in a free agency situation that clearly both reading these articles dream on said some stuff that other people in that locker room were feeling in terms of why is it? Kevin durant? All in the way that Draymond and Klay Thompson. Right. But none of them wanted to hear it. Right then. Right. Everyone agrees. This was not the tuck even Klay Thompson. Eight thought the shot was ridiculous then for Marcus Thompson at the Athletic Park. Elaine university. Love he has an historic that. It was Klay Thompson say something in the locker room mate. Everybody realized oh, man. This thing. Has gotten a little bit bananas as to what's going on here. But let's think about what this suspension men because I think that this is going to be the hard part for them. They could not just quietly find him then back away from it. The reason was we all saw the fight. So they would have income after that. And then try to say, no dre mob. We just don't want to play it on a back to back that wasn't gonna work after that happened. But we're talking about a dude was ingratiated himself with the front office over all these years. And now management said you two guys are having the beef. We are taking his side. And by the way, we really want him to stay. What does that say to you if you're Draymond green? Yeah. The message being sent here wasn't even dream on. Because Draymond could look at all of this insane, man. I should probably rethink my behavior. I don't ever want to harsh clay Thompsons mellow. But that's not what his reaction would be historically. It really is about sending a message to Kevin Durant. Which is you are the better player. You might be the second best player in this league. If we had to choose between you for ownership. For Joe lak- who has made not so subtle hints. Whether it's in that ring ceremony or whether it's in having K D dress up like a construction worker at the opening of that new arena just a couple of days ago. They're trying to tell K D U R guy, if we have to choose in this scenario. Yeah. By the way, that's dangerous choice for you to make because I think Draymond green is actually more important what they're doing with. Kevin durant? I think if you get Draymond green off that team that is less likely to be titled team that it is worth. Kevin durant? I think you could find him more not that you could find a player as good as Kevin Durant. Is you can find a player or players to provide? Would you provide Draymond green is a unicorn in a way that even seven foot tall to guard? Kevin Durant is not what you hit on a big thing. You right. They basically looked at him. And they said, hey, we've got to pick one guy. We're going to pick this dude we're going to chew as the one to keep the only thing about that. As I hear it. The rest of the team seems to have been comported themselves. This year's though, he stays he leaves. We don't care we're done baby in this, dude. And the owners like, I'm not I. Actually would love to come baby him right now. And in fact, if we may show the video of Katie after this game, you will see the face of a man who isn't quite over any of this. If we could roll that. Have you been able to hash anything? No. Did he cross the line with anything last night? That was at the house. What we do. I mean, of course, it crossed the line. He got suspended. And by the way, like it's not the b word. That's not an issue here. I think we all kind of -ssume that Draymond green had some Eric cartman in him. Like, this is language. That's not shocking. But it's the idea that you're going throw all of the things that NBA Twitter has been joking about into someone's face on camera. Also, I don't want us to get to this place where we have minimized v word sort of thing like if Kevin Durant punched him in the face with that. I wouldn't have a problem with it. And none of us, right? I mean, I want to be careful that we get would you go into mega somebody did that to you. No, no. That is going to workplace should have. Yeah. Yeah. But it's normally addressed in house in a way that this was not right. That is where the difference comes in on. This. Also, apparently be how people all the time. Everybody in that room was probably tired of dre of holiday everybody in that room. All heard everybody in that room. Also tired of Kevin Durant free agency. They just all tired. And that's what brings dynasties down more than anything else. The Teague the internal stuff. There's Bill did. Reports Steelers can't guess today. Finally and finally signalled his decision to sit up the entire season giving up fourteen and a half million dollars Pablo's lovey odds plan this season a success. So it was a success. But it also wasn't a plan like if you walked into this season as levian bell. And you said to yourself I wanna make sure that I get my guaranteed money. And I wanna make sure that I get a long term deal after this season. What he did was rational. It was extreme because it costs fourteen and a half million dollars in the process, but it was rational. If Levy on bell has nightmares about Earl Thomas, spoke raking his leg and being carted off. Sadly, if he has nightmares about any of the countless players he's seen get injured rudely and jeopardized their whole futures. I don't blame him. But there was no plan. We saw this on fold week by week in a way that was so disorganized. Yeah. Like, that's what's weird because it is possible that there was a plate. It is possible that the plan. And was for him to come in at this last minute. But then we had heard that people figured out that the Steelers probably couldn't tag. Maybe there was a new plant, but the would leads to the belief that there wasn't a plan was they never had any leverage, right. Like after this season got started with them. So they could extract anything withholding information, you could very easily come in there and say, look, I'm gonna come in at the last possible moment, I'm gonna come in. After the bye we've gotten the word that he was thinking about coming in during the bye week. They look this organized in a way to mainly Djinnit for the players typically don't get involved in situations with other people's money. But then it'd be like dude what in the world is this where I disagree with people though is the idea when they say he caused himself fourteen that's the next stop. Yes. He did not get that fourteen and a half million dollars. He was said to get he also didn't get those probably four hundred touches aware and tear that they were going to put on his body. And it wasn't as it wasn't like the Steelers are like, hey, if you just show up here, we'll give you fourteen and a half million dollars. They're like, no you show up. We'll give you fourteen and a half million dollars. And then we're going to run you into the ground. The fact that he didn't get. Run into the ground matters. Just the mileage on a running back that does matter. And if the James Connor end of things looked like man James that Levy mbelle made the wrong decision because James Connors, actually, pretty good. The counter point is James CONNER has had two hundred or so touches through nine games that alone is proof that Levy mbelle. If mileage is your concern. That's what you want to avoid. Now, the fact that he looks like a worse teammate, the fact that his coaches couldn't trust him in the way that you'd want communication lines of communication to be open. Those are also valid concerns, but isn't going to prevent Bo. The jets for making an offer to him all that. Well. That is the thing we talk about they're all that's radically. If he signs a contract by this is a fairly particular circumstance that he was in last name, Carmelo Anthony Tracy McGrady said yesterday on the jump that mellow should retire because hanging around would just diminish. His legacy mellow is thirty four does t max advice makes sense to you. Well, I think it also probably comes from an interesting place, Tracy McGrady, who's the guy they stayed after his private his prime was hacked into injuries. Right. You know? So his situation was different. So good injury. Yeah. But with mellow stay for what like what exactly is it that he's continued to go for it seems that he has in his mind is sort role that he believes that he should have or role that he wants to have. There's no team worth a damn that's going to give him that roll. Like does. He want to roll out like Alan Iverson on a bad. Sixers team looking bed in the process after getting run out of Memphis in that situation. Is that what he wants? He's got all the money in the world. I would need to know what it is that Melo is still playing for. Because this quarter still out here playing right? It is not diminishing his legacy. Yeah. But Vince Carter seems to have a greater comfort as Tracy McGrady explained in doing. So if you are a guy who has delusions of grandeur then. Yeah, you don't want to do this. And by the way, the banana boat here does figure in LeBron is still in the league. Chris Paul the league D Wade is still in the league. It is worth noting that mellow never actually got all the banana boat Gabrielle union did because he was afraid of the paparazzi making him look bad because he would look silly. I asked Carmelo Anthony. Now, do you want to avoid that happening with your NBA career? Well, here's the thing doesn't look silly. He's on a team that we don't care about coming up next car. Talk about fight, Michael Jordan. Finding this. Brought to you by Modell espec- all brewed with a fighting spirit since one thousand nine hundred twenty five. Debt at pier. Seventeen. How do you think? Steph. Curry was they were like, yo you gotta go to Mont house talked about it. I think Steph curry is the rare guy who can relate to these people. Right. That'll be that'll be any feel like, yeah. Dre Abbad at home walking opening the doors then. Kobe to talk to you like easier dead very disappointed in how that went. I quote. By the way, I kicked MJ's s. Said Steve Kerr when speaking about altercations between NBA team mates, according to Marc spears of the undefeated DiBa believe Kerr's of his account fight with this is an interesting thing because they are two legendary instances of Michael Jordan punches somebody in a practice. One of them was Will Perdue who by the way by ruined used to call Wilbur Vanderbilt because he said he didn't deserve to be named after a big ten school. Then there was this fight that he had with Steve Kerr. And the difference is it is categorized as a fight. Now. Steve Kerr by the wait a bit taller than people realize. I would not be surprised that he had them Bill something, you're he's like six inches taller than you. But if we could get this footage this the only John know that I can recall, my joy being in a fight. And this is him a Reggie Miller. Right. This is the first three peat that happened. Mike Caine for now audibly all of say this. There's no evidence there to indicate that well anybody involved in this can actually so I'm going to say Steve Kirk had a fighting chance. This and I will say that you're associated Steve Kerr does not have a fighting chance in this might be a know product of filed stereos. Yeah. But the thing I love about the fight with Steve Kerr's. We watch 'em j just sort of. Yeah. Just face mush. Reggie. Maybe it's that the Kerr an MBA fight happened in training camp. Like, this was a training camp thing it was because MJ had just lost the magic the year before after coming out of retirement and Steve Kerr apparently got in his face with some trash talk because Steve Kerr has some of that into j gave them the floor arm shiver, according to historical record. And then suddenly they were on top of each other punters were being thrown all of which is to say that that was the year. They went seventy two in town. Yeah. I do have to say though, that I don't know how I'd handle this curse. Started talking to us to me Steve Kerr's NBA player, and I just work here. I also think about this in the course of watching this video that'd be just show. Yes. Maybe the best story of anybody in anything close to a fight with my Jordan. Jordan Watson in practice. Got mad at Bill. Car right because he just always got frustrated with Bill car, right? And he told dudes in practice not to pass the ball to Bill Cartwright anymore, Bill Cartwright, Cade him after practice and explain to him that he was maybe the greatest basketball player the ever see. And if you do anything like that again, you'll never play basketball again. Right. Bill carr. Right. All this right here. No Bill like, I will Ilbo you into here so hard. Did you will never be able to count? Michael Jordan is the ultimate example to all of these scenarios. Right. You guys hate each other, blah, blah, blah. Well, Michael Jordan was a tremendous jerk. Guess what? But everyone loves those. But guess what? He's Michael Jordan. Kevin durant? It's not. Next, quote, he's losing control of this team. Former eagles receiver Jason vodka Philly. Head coach Doug Peterson Pablo. How much do you trust assessment? I don't know Jason avant isn't on the deemed Jason avant. I assume watching these games closely which Casey is probably seeing that a lot is wrong with the eagles right now. But it's not just one player. It's not just one position. It's sort of injuries to the secondary. It's the fact that the offense of wine is hurt. It's in fact, the Carson Wentz is as good as Carson Wentz was injury last year. And in cases, like that Bo you tend to blame the coach who tend to blame Doug Peterson of parents, even if he won the Super Bowl, obviously that would be the case if he was just saying something broad in just like, they're not winning therefore the coaches the problem that's not what he's doing. He's pointing to very particular things that he's talking about stuff like attention to detail. Like if we look at this play that they had at the end of the first half against the Cowboys and the Cowboys marched down to fill in the Cowboys. They're trying to hurry up and a lineup at. Into that possession urging a and you've got a guys on the eagles that are walking back there. Those are the things that make you point to the head coach because biological the guy like what is that? If you've got the proper respect for your head coach, you know that sort of thing would not be tolerated. Like people will look at something like that. And it'd be like they wouldn't have done that Bill Belichick was the coach and think about how many times you've seen the patriots walk up and down the field. So yes, I agree with you that they're probably ascribing lot of people describing a lot of things and put it on the coach. Yes. But for the kinds of things he's talking about that is what you look at the coach. No. And that's fair. The example of urgency enough hurt and win that flags is fair. But there's also the turnover eagles Royal route. Royal route Bravo had bad turnover margins. We typically look at the coach last, quote, I feel like I learned I feel like a lot of guys wanted him to state. I learned a lot from him. And I was still learning. Bravo. Said Andrew Wiggins about Jimmy Butler. Joel the beat reportedly called Wiggins to ask what Butler was leg as a teammate and got glowing reviews. Wiggins also said he definitely wanted Butler to stay. So does this apprise you not necessarily because apparently when Jimmy head crazy practice Andrew Wiggins daft him up. We have the soon then a lot of Jimmy's I r- is pointed toward Andrew Wiggins. And he did say the Andrew Wiggins is the most talented guy on the team and talked about how you could jump at his hang and everything else. But I take what we're saying. We're we're learning here. Basically Jimmy really didn't like Karl Anthony towns, very particular to felt about Karl Anthony towns, if for whatever reason, you got all the sympathy in the world for Carl towns, and for Andrew Wiggins Wiggins is not good at basketball in the way, that Karl Anthony towns is good at basketball. But Andrew Wiggins also isn't deaf and religion solve the news cycle. Saw. Everyone responded when Karl Anthony towns there to defy the iron fist of Jimmy Butler and Andrew Wiggin just wants all of us photo tells due to defy the iron fist. Well, it was mostly getting hit with the iron. I was hit by the world. Did he do to the ir expressed pleasure at his kisses? You route all you've teen towns people in this situation. I just feel sad for a guy. Who is sad. That's all it is go. Do you think was more unhappy at work Karl Anthony towns or Jimmy Butler? Jimmy Butler seemed to be pretty unhappy at work after the break. How many points are going to be stored in this game? That is no longer in Mexico because apparently chiefs Rams it's kind of a big deal might be a lot. Yeah. All lot. Download this show is a podcast full mommy's to checkout line to if you can figure out who I am. So you have the reds brother got on Instagram. Tony back. Hey popped off a little bit about this. Because that's always making things better wasn't even guy who commented on Instagram got a fillip fan before we get out of here back in October. I love that we like he played for them. Today's number. Sixty four. That's the point total over under over Monday night's chiefs Rams game which is the highest since nineteen eighty five yesterday. The NFL announced the game will be moved from Mexico City to Los Angeles because of poor field conditions at a study OS deca how excited are you for this game? I mean, I am looking forward to this. This should be a lot of fun like separate from the fact that it's too good teams to teams that are very entertaining to watch. Yes. And look I don't care about whether they played that game in Mexico. I was gonna be watching it on TV. So it really wasn't gonna be no difference. As far as I was concerned. If that field was as sludgy and sloshes, they sit it was then there's no way I wanna watch Bill then like you've got some three yard and a cloud of dust still want to play it on that more. That's fine. But this on the fastest track. We can't I wish they go play somewhere in adult. Yes. Can we get the turf can be get the dome? This is like ordering a nice like Kobe steak and getting catch up on it. No you want to preserve this in the conditions. It was meant to be acquired and tasted and maximized and be over under total here boat. Is like a fun historical note. But it's also kind of the culmination of a larger NFL rebranding process. The league is about offense. The sport is about offense and the best way to ensure that you get off events you have these two teams play against each other. There will be there will be lots of just how Sam would we be? If this is like seventeen fourteen. No, I like, Marcus Peters. Like if you're out there. I know you want to like big good on your talk. But just not this. Whoa. He's gotta look at way Phillips like, hey, man. Am I with Tyree? You really want me to know? All right home. You feel me? In close. Questions about what's going on in these good foes engagement photos taken by JC, Marie photography. See as you'll see? There's a lovely couplet Ohio grew retaken photos commemorating putting a down payment on a reception hall. Then look what happens. That's right. Ooh. What raw way wait a minute. Just pops up in. That's right. He's just right there and. Yes. That's part of the question that I have about this is what's the temperature outside because I know people want to look cute pictures, but he got all the bulletproof bubble in that coat. They must have been freezing eight behinds offs ended up there in the front. I just like how we went from Dave chappelle being gone from the world Africa. He was often the lab somewhere hidden and now he's just popping up everywhere. Although to be fair when we thought he was in the lab hidden. He was hiding in Ohio. Yeah. Yeah. This is where he was. Everybody knows deja live except the last place would expect to see dejavu pill is just posted up in Ohio. Dave's you fell had us on a bus in Louisiana's. We we'd no no idea to see him. And it was worth it. In closing. I'd like to show you the latest from Mack McLarty Georgetown's four most cultural exchange student. That's watch. Let's see what he did. Oh nice. Layup we got here? There we go. Okay. Scares us attack. Nothing else with abandoned. I don't think that counts so much. Here we go here. They I was impressed. How to wait for this? Bag McClellan man is out here. And the reason I bring him up is because he has a cousin. And I know you don't like me calling him white MAC for reasons I understand but roll the video of his cousin because he figures in the reasons you need, not just. Fest Burke, your during that whole bribe those type of NBA level statistics. All star moves he could play against an MBA players right now. But they have their rule. You gotta go to college. I so he's going to Georgetown. I we're over here in the first quarter. Riffraff is McLaughlin is a biological cousin. Back. What did that's not? How the joke works how the questionable next white, man.

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The Sedano Show (Hr 4)

Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

The Sedano Show (Hr 4)

"Saddam show here on ESPN LA, buddy. Allen sleep. We're going to hang out with us around six thirty. We'll Lakers talk is tonight. Right after us. Couple of quick things. Amine BKA will be back though. Hang out with us here in a segment this hour as well. We try to keep it flowing right in and out people in and out people in and out. Thanks to March slayeth for hanging out with us there. Man. He seems to think the Rams are going to need to and I'm with him on that the diversity of just kind of formations and things and personnel. And look at some point when you go up against the master in Bill, Bella check, you can't be showing the same stuff 'cause he's going to be prepared for it. And they're gonna show you a different look, and they clearly weren't prepared for it. So here's the deal on the Lakers. So if you're just tuning in the Lakers have made the godfather offer, right? They've made the offer for Kuzina Ingram. Lonzo thing. Thank you. Kouzmin ingram. Lonzo multiple first round picks regime. Rondo, Michael Beasley. Stevenson. Dance Lance dance. Stick godfather offer, you can't refuse and a good Dr. Throwing the guitar. So that's the offer they've made. And apparently, according to Twitter. Couple of things have happened. Lonzo has removed. All Lakers stuff from his Instagram and Twitter, you listen people laugh, but that is always a not always generally a good sign that someone is moving on the only time recently that I recall it didn't work was Julio Jones did that for the Atlanta Falcons. But generally when a player does that in professional sports, these days, it, usually means the time is over and then the other part, according to Andrew Lopez, our buddy who we constantly are quoting now in this shows is we've been following pelicans beat writers all of a sudden Andrew Lopez tweeted out that Solomon hill. Who is involved in this? Anthony Davis deal has been removed from the pelicans starting lineup tonight. So not only did the Lakers make the godfather offer. But they're willing to take back a somewhat crappy contract in Solomon hill. And then all of a sudden Solomon hills. Not in the lineup you connect the dots. Okay. I am more inclined to think that this could be happening because you usually don't pull guys in the league. Now, he could be heard or something like that. But generally, you're not pulling guys like this where healthy who are starters unless they're going to be involved in a trade, and you don't want them to get injured potentially. So there are a couple of things at play here that make a ton of sense. And. I think this thing might be happening. That sounds kind of crazy, but I'm starting to feel more and more. Like, this is something that couldn't be materializing. Man. I told you man, you can't be wasting LeBron's time. He's thirty four coming off. The worst injury of his career that window is closing faster than you think. So the Lakers are making move not only they make moves Fred that he Davis, but potentially they're going to have to try to figure out the rest of the roster because you're trading. Six guys for two. So that would mean the Lakers have four. Open roster spots. So one of them go to Carmelo Anthony. Right. That that's almost a given at that point. But they may not be done because Brian winnower says Casey p could be on the move Colwell. Pope is available and has been floated out there. For some force in spots one place that they have talked to. Now, I'm not saying this deal is going to get done. But one place that they have talked to is Chicago for Jabari Parker. And the thing about this is that call the pope has to approve of a trade, and I'm not sure that's going to get done that's been discussed. But some team. I mean, the bulls really like cloud caldwell-pope th they're not doing that like, you know, to do anything. But. You know, Jabari Parker could be Laker. Within the next few days, which you know, I Jabbar is a polarizing player. But you know, he might be interesting on the Lakers. Jabari Parker is one of those LeBron reclamation projects. Okay. It's basically the, oh, I could fix that guy. And again, the story goes like this in Cleveland when David Griffin came to LeBron and said, hey, we're going to get him on Shumpert. And you know, we'll have to get je take Jerry Smith, and he's like hell gimme Jerry Smith. I'll I'll make that work. So that is one of those LeBron reclamation projects for sure. But the Salomon hill thing is interesting because for my understanding is he's a healthy scratch as of right now. And we are legitimately. This is where we're at in Laker nation that we are on Solomon hill. Watch. We've arrived at this point. But I again, the Lakers have no choice. This is the best offer that they can put on the table. Now. Maybe they can sweeten the pot a little bit by throwing in some extra pigs or whatever it is that and the other, but they're gonna have to figure this thing out like ASAP, and this is what I said, Mike, I told the I was talking about this on the air Joe. And Michael Thompson agreed with me. Just put your best foot forward right now. Like, forget about all this posturing this that and the other, and I know people say, oh, you know, you got to at least try no, man. Look everybody knows what you want. There's no secret here. You are the Lakers. If anything magic has been almost too transparent, I think sometimes with his wishes, and because he's been so transparent teams aren't fooled by this nonsense. Offer you gave last week. So you might as well come out of the gate, strong and eliminate all the nonsense in between and get the damn deal done. And that's what Michael that's what Michael. And I were talking about last week, you know, agreement it, it's I think that it sounds like the Lakers in LeBron want to be the next team that's attracted attractive enough to go against the warriors. Because these agencies are going to other free agents are going to be available this summer and Anthony Davis has for a long time in NBA circles been considered the guy who could be the kryptonite to the warriors. And I know what you're saying. Oh, he's been wiped off the floor or a bunch of times against them. Is that? But yeah, go look at the numbers. He's putting up in those games. Go look at how they can't even stop him in those games knowing that he is the focal point of their offense. So absolutely in challenging the warriors. You need Anthony Davis. The guy's a freaking alien speaking of Anthony Davis. Kobe Bryant has weighed in on Anthony Davis. We'll have that for you. Coming up in the next segments. Lee was gonna come in here. Lonzo's got demands lavar is talking again all that stuff coming up in just a sec. Yes. Sarah down show here on. ESPN LA. I mean and became gonna pop in and just a minute. We'll talk some more about everything kinda went down with the Super Bowl and kind of get their thoughts on all this. Anthony Davis stuff man, we talked to own Yamoussoukro earlier, we got some sound from him about this. Lonzo big baller camp. Not wanting Lonzo in New Orleans is just insane. It's the best time of year. The Super Bowl is over. We have that kind of still to deal with and kind of the aftermath. And of course, the trade deadline and Alan sleeve, our buddy from Lakers talk. We can catch tonight from seven to nine here on the station is here, do you? Find yourself kind of like where your head is kind of swirling a little bit because there's just so much stuff going on right now. I don't know what to what what the hang onto. I mean, even Saturday when it started on Saturday where you started hearing some reports that the Lakers had a locker room flare up before obviously prior to that all the conversations about Anthony Davis today, everything that's gone. On on. It's tough to even. I mean, of course, there's a lot of Super Bowl chatter, but LA has been dominated by the Lakers all week long, basically during the SuperBowl, they stole the headlines, and it's not gonna end obviously up until we figure out what happens at Thursday at noon. Yeah, I would agree and look with all this Anthony Davis stuff. Kobe Bryant sat down with Rachel Nichols. And Tracy McGrady for an interview that's airing on sportscenter here tonight, and they asked him about like, hey, what do you make of what a dis got going on here? And here's what Kobe said and Tracy weighed in his well, where do you think of a D warning out of? Got a right to do with the hell wants to do. I mean, I listen, you know, teams have the right to trade players players. You have the freedom to be able to say in Boise opinion. Now, you can agree with it. You can disagree with it. These has the right to say what he wants to say. You know, you spend six or seven years, and you feel like you're not competing for championship. At some point. You're going to want to get the hell out of there. Organization that is serious about winning. I deal with that. Right. I dealt with that in Orlando. I'm the free his winning championships. And that's the ultimate goal yet. Look, I think mcgready hit the nail on the head. And I think Coby also did, you know about wanting players to be able to do what the hell they want to do. And but to mcgrady's point it was there. He's been there for almost seven years like you've had your chance to build around him. And if he wants out that's on New Orleans in del Dem's, man. And nobody's gonna like listen anytime. The Lakers are involved in some type of potential opportunity to get a big time all star to come. Join the organization there's going to be a lot of backlash that comes with the Los Angeles Lakers, and that comes with the territory, but at the same time like you mentioned, George when the Lakers were running a bad franchise. A lot of players didn't want to come play for the Los Angeles Lakers for the first time over the last year and a half two years is a little bit of a foundation, right? It's becoming more of an attrac-. Action again. But when the Lakers were bad, it was just like the pelicans nobody wanted to play with them. Well, by the way, Kobe wanted out at one let's not forget that it was laughing. When McGrady said what he said because everyone remembers that grainy video in a parking lot at some strip mall here in southern California where he's lamenting the fact that he's got Andrew bynum on his team. And he was like we kept Andrew bynum a good gun. Jason you don't like all that stuff. Like that. All these guys have lived through in one way, shape or form. So they understand which is why I've always been as much as sometimes I have some fun LeBron's expense with some of the stuff that he does I've always supported him in this regard. Like, clearly he's the greatest player on the planet right now. But and he's arguably one of the greatest ever, right, but the player, mobility and the upward mobility. He's always said why is it? That players are looked at like, they're betraying people when organizations can cut guys sign guys trade guys whenever the hell they want and in that league, especially where the players control the n-. Narrative going way back to Magic Johnson, right and Paul Westhead and Pat Riley being inserted all that stuff. All that stuff is has been in the fabric of the NBA. But yet fans root for the owners where real life you would never root for the boss of your company. You want to make sure that the employees are taking care of? And you're all in it together. It's such a weird dynamic the way the fans view sports as opposed to the rest of life. And I think the fans to I think at the end of day comes down to this. They do care. I mean, I know Laker fans it's a little bit different. Because you've got Laker fans all over the country. Look at what happened in the bay area this past Saturday where you got fans Laker fans Channing we want clay this is in obviously at oracle, but they're cheering for the Los Angeles part. So I get it when there's fan bases out there that all they care about is what happens to their team. And what happened if a player leaves their team at obviously hurts their city and their city chances. So I don't blame if the pelicans are upset about the Lakers or other fr. Sanchis is are you gotta just worry about your franchise. Pelicans haven't done that. Yeah. For sure I would agree with that. The pelicans haven't done any of that stuff. Okay. So earlier Masuku was here, and he talked about what lonzo's deal is. And lavar is here's what set a big baller camp. They've been concerned about, you know, Lonzo being traded now for the last couple of weeks, obviously in any any way. The Lakers are going to try and get anything. Dave is Lonzo ball has to be part of that deal. They understand that. So they don't want Lonzo ball into Orleans. They want the ball in the best situation possible. And they view that as being what do you make of that? Listen, I it's not under it. It's not going to be in their control. So at the end of the day if the Lakers decide obviously make a trade with the pelicans. And it includes Lonzo ball to get Phoenix Suns involved, some shape way or form sounds great. But it has nothing to do with the Phoenix Suns. And really Lonzo won't have a say in it. I mean, it's kinda crazy today. It's he won't have a say, but it was pretty studying because I felt like we haven't heard from lavar and last week. I was specifically saying man, you know, what I feel like lavar is gonna get involved here pretty quick because there's too much smoke going around about his son getting traded and think about this judge OMB sends out that tweet eleven thousand likes for that tweet about lavar ball like you just mentioned there. I thought maybe that momentum had kind of gone away a little bit VAR speaks a lot of people. A lot of people were curious and unresponded. Yeah. I don't think there's any doubt that that was the case certainly, but it is fascinating. How all this stuff is kind of unfolding which basically means yet can't go anywhere. You gotta listen to the station basically all week long to find out. What the hell's going to happen? We're actually going to be off tomorrow because there's a Laker game. But every day matters right now. I mean, they're literally chasing a playoff spot. So you gotta listen to the games as well. Allen sleep Lakers talk tonight at seven o'clock, thanks for hanging out. But I appreciate it. So be Kane. I mean, they're gonna stop by. We'll kind of get into all this stuff as well. And finish up some soup. Bowl talk as well. So down a show. ESPN Alexa, down a show here on ESPN LA. Brian cabinets? You hanging out with us today. A mean is hanging out with us real quick shot up to this audience? Okay. Because on Friday when Momo was in here. I put out the bat signal. I said look we need to we'd been kind of toiling on this apple podcast top two hundred list, and we'd kind of been like well one ninety five and then we wouldn't show up or like one ninety seven and then we wouldn't show up. We're one fifty five. Okay. You you. Subscribe. You rated and reviewed now I put this out on my Instagram Jorde, Sodano ESPN. That if we get into the top five by March first, we are throwing a big party. I I I have gotten the sale staff behind a party on March ninth where we can also make a Lakers Celtics watch party. Okay, where you can call. The babysitter bring the wife brings them bring your wife's friends brings all your friends. But basically the way you're getting into this tries hard not to say sidepiece. South. Hey, and she subscribed. She could come to. And so. You gotta show us. Your subscribe to the pod close ticket the party. Okay. And so you got to subscribe rate and review. One fifty five is a nice jump. Okay. From being on the outside to get in to get into the top five. We're going to need you to tell all your friends who like sports to subscribe rate and reviews can all AKU six right now. Right now right now, it's probably like one of the barstool guys or something is Martin. My take is definitely up there. All right. So let me take a look. So I let me see if I can go charts. I'm gonna guess stupidity. Is that's still got to go to the sports. Okay. All right. Just the sports. I'm I'm gonna guess some stupidity is number one. Oh, pardon. My eleven second podcasts. Well, Hetty play people's time. Eddie play go ahead. What do you want to heart pardon? My take is number two is Joe Wilkins does that count. Now. That's not a sports. Okay. That's an encompassing. Ooh. Now gets oh. Low post low post is not in top five. Wow. What a Bill Simmons. Potty Simmons is number three. Okay. Let's see a Matthew berry, Mattie berries now 'cause fantasies or oh man helped me I hear man, I you've named most. Dave Portnoy, the barstool guy. Oh, he just got like arrested, basically. So that was that not that they need to get arrest. You need to get your George. The grammys. Rested go from one fifty five two five. Yeah. And then more importantly, what do you have to get arrested for right? That's an excellent point the Grammy's. And then number five is cowherd. I liked Kauai cowards guy, but we need to bump counter that above Calvin sorry. And then and then you got like skip Bayless get out of here with scout doesn't count Puckett low post is number eight, actually, but you know, Zach we're going to have to bump you to. So look we need to get into the top five. Okay. But we need you the listener who's done a great job in one weekend of subscribing rating and reviewing, but you need to tell your uncle your brother, your sister, your cousins your friends to rate subscribed rate and review so that we can speak to existence. Exactly, let's get into top. By if we I have the date secured already sales is behind me. We will have a big party. Okay. If we can get into the top five because I went antidoto book out a bunch of years ago. We would tell us got by it. You don't read it, do whatever. Afterwards. I don't care what you do. Because he does not have to be a good rating or good review. Right. Okay. There's actually something called ESPN podcasts this number twenty eight. I don't even know what that is. They don't say anything. It's just literally called the SPN podcasts. So we need to do. A better job Sodano show subscribed rate review, apple podcast, Google podcast, Android. Whatever the hell you do. Subscribe rate review. We can do this folks. Let's have a big party. I'm willing to throw you a party for to celebrate you the audience, but you need to help us out guys because I'm down for the turn-up. Always let's go. Yes. I'm already being told they're willing to give us the hotel Figueroa right down the street. They have a brand of nice. With the little pool been there. So I just got the text right now hotel fig on March night, we only having this party if we can get into the top fund long. We'll watch Lakers Celtics together among to give. I need to go to this party happen. A love the Foto pigro. It's nice place. The new spot the commercials. Mario runs commerce the spots nights. It's that's what I'm saying. It could be a date night. This is whether it's going to be nice by then you listen you kill two birds one stop. You you tell your girl we're going on a date berry romantic locates, like a happy hour spot. Right. I'm saying we'll watch the and you get to watch the game. We'll hang out and you get to help us at the same time. We help you help us. That's how this works, and it costs you what nothing nothing just subscribing shows that you subscribe. I guess when you get there. But you gotta do it now. Yeah. If we don't get to the top five, there's no party can't organize a party like last minute. You gotta do this now. Right. So by March first, I need to know. So they have. All right. So I mean, do you believe New Orleans is now more inclined with this edition of Salomon hill coming back and then getting off that contract? Do you? I believe they are more inclined to do something by Thursday because that's really what anyone cares about. Right. I think New Orleans is getting the Lakers attention in terms of what is the level of offer? It's going to take for us to forego waiting to see what better offers could come around draft time or July when you know where everyone is in the draft lottery, for instance, at the same time, the Lakers gotta figure this out in the sense that you have to convince Dell Dem's general manager of the pelicans that bird in the hand is we're tuna Bush. It's nice. It's all about oh. You might get decent Tatum. You might not get Jason Tatum. What is it? Then zion. Williamson will you might not you might not the Knicks big or levers big might be fourth or fifth the days in Tatum conversations, a fun one because our say what if themes finals MVP what like there's a world of the universe with the Celtics when the championship and Jason Tatum was finals heavy then what do you do not thinner train them? Then they ought to hell with that. Yeah. So like you can't. Bank on all those things particularly the more that the clutch sports ending Davis camp keeps putting out. I don't wanna go there. I wanna go here cetera et cetera. So you control what you can control. And that's why I really am surprised at the Lakers were so. Kind of not disrespectful, but bordering disrespect with the pre weaken offers now, it's no surprise that LeBron's out that tweet. Yes. And all of a sudden magic in got all deliver for those that don't know or worn on Twitter during the game yesterday. Lebron not a tweet where Shams. Whoa, mcmenamin. And who else he threw out one more name? Was it? There was a fourth percents. Basically he asked him where Hanes crispy he has where they MAC now part of that was the game was boring. So he felt like they should be breaking news. But mean because like myself, we speak LeBron daddy LeBron was sending a signal that's the bread loaf. Ladies, you know, that that that sound right. There was a bread low falling on the ground. Ooh, they thought this is about the Super Bowl. Oh, this is fun. This is this is it right here, man. This is what you live for LeBron. Because lo and behold, then the next day we hear the godfather now that matter they're motivated sellers by LeBron probably because this is how this conversation works because I remember this. How it happened in Phoenix? Phoenix issues being Cleveland. I mean, you and I were actually doing our podcast together. Back in the day that was different podcast. You don't have to subscribe to that one. But you should subscribe to this. When this Donald show podcast, and we were talking about how David Griffin at the time the Cleveland general manager Brian went to LeBron. And he said, hey, I can get Iman Shumpert and they'll throw in Jair spit and LeBron was like you get Iman Shumpert. But let's make sure we get JR's like I'll take care of JR. So that's kind of one of these situations where LeBron magic and Robert probably talking. He's like figure out Solomon hill. I don't care whatever just Anthony Davis. And this is where like players as GM's become kind of problematic because Solomon hill. Sounds like a you probably you figure out Salman hill, you figure out what to do with them later. I know he can't play. That is a you problem figured out. But it becomes a player problem in the summertime in the whatever. And LeBron rain into this eventually in Cleveland, we're like you have all this stuff. You be there made us go get or you told us to go do. And now we can't do these other things because we got the thing. But that's it. If all if your problem is Solomon hill right right now. And that's your only problem. And you've you take the deal with Solomon hill. The other angle of that is they didn't all these deals that hurt them. Long term. Those went to the finals four years in a row in a champion. At some point people have to stop this thing about not much reading my twenty twenty-five pig. It doesn't matter if you don't wanna championship if you win one championship. It does not matter. Who cares? That's a whole beginning. He traded four draft picks in essence for Chris Bosh. Lebron James because they wanted the at the time it was a six year deal. So they had and they all had opt-outs after four but the heat exchanged four first rounders for LeBron Chris because who cares right? And plus two it's the math is you made the joke earlier about like they made the they went full Mets like the differences. The nets traded for like four guys who were all over your way for he was over. Anthony Davis still hasn't turned twenty prime. Yes. You never get a chance to trade for a guy who is kind of even Pri prime like, let's if he can stay healthy. And that's a big f there's no question. I there it is very hard for me to imagine. Jn scenarios where the Lakers look back on and say, you know, man, like I really regret throwing in Lonzo ball that deal with now. Now, you still even if you like all of them turn out to be good intuitive from turn out to be all stars. None of them are going to be Anthony Davis. Right. We could add ended. But man, we didn't wanna give one Kaku. They sound. Light sounds ridiculous. Speaking of health Todd Gurley. Obviously that conversation is out there as well. After yesterday. Like he got some carries and get enough carries. And the numbers are staggering like here the numbers. Okay. With girly this season. Rams eight to know when he got twenty plus touches girly himself in general when the Rams running game, regardless of who was back there when they ran the ball twenty times or more fifteen and including the playoffs when they didn't get to that number. Oh and four, and that's the thing if I'm Sean McVay as he talked about kind of things he would regret that's the one that I'm looking at because it just gives the offense balance and having him on the field girly. I felt like it was going to be impactful in some way. Or another. Just because you have to at least account for him, and it's gonna make Gough a little bit more of a threat. Like, that's the one thing where if I'm looking back at Sean I'm saying to myself, man. That's that's the one is great as you are. That's the one where I think if you're talking about regret. That's where it's going to be. I would say the biggest argument for what you're saying George to is that you had the opening in the first half because New England wasn't scoring either. Where you could say, you know, what they their store in the first order, even but throughout the first Hannity have never scored a point in any Super Bowl heavens Super Bowl. So you have his opportunity even where you could say, you know, what like our defense is holding them down. We can afford to use two or three drives to try to establish something now that will pay off in the fourth quarter. Right. I you guys got to get out of because we gotta roll sleep was back in here. I mean, it's a party in air cabinets ki L Hasson Pearson, sleep Lopez whole crews and funches what's. My out time here Lopez. Oh, ten seconds sleep. What would you got coming up in five seconds tiny Gangulys coming out from LA times? There it is. Laker talk is coming up next. See?

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Where Do We Go From Here?

PTI

21:56 min | 2 years ago

Where Do We Go From Here?

"Interruption. But I'm Mike von Tony new study says mill with beards more attractive than men who are clean shaven. I'm Tony Kornheiser. I know I commissioned the study it was commissioned by the T K institute. Bearded men, and we survey I don't know eight to ten people that many. Yeah, I know. On the street. Okay. Usually would be. Somewhere north west Washington. Maybe new your house close. Okay within this. During in the midst. Just just guys walk in their streets. But it's a real commission study, the PTI boys and girls in today's episode. Jimmy Butler makes it Sixers debut, Tracy McGrady things mellow Anthony should retire and Mike and I do little role play. But we begin today with the public one game suspension of Draymond green by the Golden State Warriors this stems directly from the dust up between green and Kevin Durant. The other night that both of us didn't think was a big deal. Well, apparently, very big deal. What do you make a very big deal? It'll Tony I still don't really know what to make of it. I mean, sometimes we don't do this very often because we're supposed to have answers here strong opinions sometimes take a step back. If I knew the people involved Bob Myers general manager of the Golden State Warriors who just seems to get it. All right. Like almost all the time. I don't think he got when I heard this yesterday. So he say he's a guy that gets the benefit of the doubt for me. Okay. And then I heard this, and I'm like, wow. This is like like you've chosen one over the other. Like, you have prioritize Kevin Durant and his feelings over Draymond green. And whatever he may have. And these guys are equally to me valuable trae mon- green is not as technically skilled as good as Kevin Durant. But they are as necessary to the each one is necessary to the team the other. I I'm confused. I'm confused. Not I'm stunned by this. I am absolutely stunned. Why would you do this? Why would you publicly you million a guy who's been a part of all your championship teams? I grant you. He's a hothead, but he's not a villain. This is a guy who everybody refers to as a glue guy. This is a not the but a most valuable player on your squad for long tremendous players only. There's only one explanation. This was done to placate Kevin Durant. But in the men's Olea that. Nation. You somehow fend Draymond green. Who doesn't seem to be asked sensitive about these things because Draymond green is a guy who mixes it up verbally. And then let's go it seems to me like and so now you. Humiliate little over. So you have million at him. There's got to been other ways to do this. You could have find him. You could have kept him out of the game is heading rest. What you did? Here was saying to Kevin Durant. We know you're going to be a free agent when we really want you. And maybe we don't want the other guys money to offend Kevin Durant, and that's fun. Like, I think it's a terrible managerial decision. I think is going to deep six Golden State Warriors. I don't think it is. I think it could. I think it could in this particular case, I'm stunned that Steve Kerr is putting himself in front of this as well managerial eat well. This is the wrong things doing thing again. Bob Myers Steve Kerr, Tony got it. Right. So when I'm thinking is again in giving them benefit of the doubt here. There might be something else that is attached to this that we don't know about that. They're not making public. I'm not going to sit here and say, I know all the answers in these. Guys are crazy and stupid because they're not if you don't keep Kevin Durant this Kevin Durant. If you don't, and if you have Draymond green that he wants to leave to then you it is possible that you are to being one of the great teams of all time. I say we're in a different context of Andrea Dallas, all these great things come to an end. I don't expect that yet. But they do checking Kobe. They have enough talent. They've enough talent. They don't like each other to win. The Lakers had won five championships. They'd won two of those just on working on the third one and shack, and nobody would have said that that would blow up, and they wouldn't kiss did Mike. This is a public. Repudiation of the actions of Draymond green. I don't think you have to do that. Maybe you do. Jimmy Butler time Tony so get happy right now. Not ain't your mood. Not having Butler makes the seventy Sixers debut tonight in Orlando. Sixers coach Brett Brown. He apparently took your advice plans to start JJ Redican place of struggling Marquel. Full smart moves Sixers currently third in the east, which is just where everybody thinks oughta be. So let's look short term. Is there anything at stake for Jimmy Butler in the Sixers right now? Like tonight. I don't think there's anything at stake for them tonight. I don't he doesn't know these guys who now is teammates. He doesn't really know this coach it's probably going to take him a week to figure out who he hates on that team who thinks has no heart whatsoever. I think the obvious headline now is who is the loser in this. And that is that is Marquel Foltz and and on I know it's a stretch. I I can't get Nathan Peterman out of my mind get him out of stretch. But I think that I think Markelle Foltz is now in the land of broken toys. And I think he probably has to go somewhere else. With someone else who thinks they can fix him. Maybe I don't disagree to deal with the Sixers right now as Jimmy Butler Jimmy Butler net lineup a two way player got to be one of the three or four best two way players in the league. And Tony I look at the Sixers. They ought to have a bounce from his and getting JJ Rettig back in the lineup where he ought to have been considering what he does what the league values now right values shooting values. Deep shooting JJ renaissance good is that as a. Butler gift three just help Jimmy Butler hopes to team Jimmy, but we don't need JJ ready to get a free. Jimmy Butler was playing on teams that didn't have anybody JJ ready and he's still twenty points plus a game. Well, when I need shoot from outside at ten feet JJ read that's four guys on the floor. We think are pretty good. Yeah. I don't think they're better than Boston living out there better or as good as and I'll tell you what chain because Jimmy Butler is a high profile player, and he's an all-star, and that changes things now, and it changes something subtly in that locker room Jimmy Butler becomes a very big guy. Yeah, they have two young stars who are young. They are young. How would they stature Allred? How will they react? What is their mature out? If Embiid believes that he's the big cheese. Will he have any resentment towards Ginnie Mae these things we've seen this on other teams? Yeah. So we need to see how that works out. And for the first time, there's actual pressure on Brett Brown see pressure on Jimmy Butler has proven himself enough to a level. Tony where I would think that some of. Guys, watching particularly over the last couple of months with this dispute with Minnesota. They gotta think in Philadelphia where they they know how good Boston if they know how the Toronto is. We need this guy. Do they do need really good in Minnesota, the somehow stupidly convinced themselves they didn't need again. How will the young star players on a team react can ride full? The latest college football playoff rankings were unveiled last night. And the entire top ten was exactly the same as the week before. So in the absence of any movement to talk about the conversation has turned to this scenario. What happens if Georgia beats Alabama in the SEC championship game. We'll on what is your fourteen playoff them entirely depends suppose, Georgia crushes Alabama and supposed Notre Dame and Michigan don't lose. They went out. Then guess what? Georgia's got to go over Alabama. Otherwise, why play each other head to head and then Alabama is the brokenhearted team because we've all gone through the season saying, they're the best. Team. They're the only team in college football is certainly out if Georgia just punks what's the number. What's the number for you? I don't know suppose dominating twenty eight fourteen game they really beat about two touchdowns at a neutral site, and they and again Notre Dame in Michigan would need to win out. Okay. So I believe that if Georgia beats Alabama Alabama is still in because we have seen Alabama with one loss get into playoffs and see them with one win the champ who's out. I'll get to that. I think Georgia is obviously. And at that point. I think the SEC is the best consuls out. I will get in is in all in Clemson is in. Okay, Notre Dame is in Michigan was Michigan. So posed out Michigan's beat Notre Dame. Have they beat Navey? Michigan waits on ahead. Head to Michigan. His this year. Not last year this one eleven straight games. But the game they lost was to an old sailor. To an unbeaten team to notably. Our Thames lost doesn't count Alabama gets in why. Delilah. Listen to what I would have stayed conference opponent. They have been in already with one loss and wanna championship. Nobody else gets it. This is a lifetime achievement that gives them awards of Jimmy Durante to this is what you did. Now when you look at Alabama right now, do you think they're great team? Do if they lose a great team the could well Nishikori lost Michigan law opener and then day to Notre Dame Notre Dame in Notre Dame. Michigan's Dana loses out, no matter. What one loss Notre Dame sowed at that point? Because is as hard this year. Yeah. Alabama. I don't think they're gonna lose. I mean Syracuse is tough. I don't think I can be other teams have bad losses. Oklahoma has Texas Washington state. He's the committee because you're like the people on the committee. No matter what if Obama goes and gets beat forty five seven and known fix that to happen. But if you excuse them if Alabama gets forty members, oh, if if you're a good game and Alabama gets even to shutdown game. It could be a good game could be could be. Could be because it's a big ten you're upset. It's michigan. I just took the case Michigan. What are you saying? Which way you're going to have it Dame in for the conference or my hating. Michigan. Will you stumping for the conference, and you hating this? Really thoughtful invasion advice coming from Tracy McGrady on the subject of Carmelo Anthony t Mack told Rachel Nichols of the jump yesterday. Quote. I honestly think militia retire. I don't want it to go through another situation. Like this and people are just pouring negatively on the man's legacy. I really think because it hasn't worked out the last two teams you have a hall of fame career. Just go ahead. Let it go close quote gradients live this. Tony retiring at thirty four thirty four after injuries and trying to hold on himself. Is this advice mellow? She he I don't think the Tracy McGrady is completely wrong. I don't I think he is saying these things with sympathy. And I think he's saying these things with empathy he hung on way too long with the Spurs. I mean, it was a guy. He was a guy who never got past the second round as a key player. He never did. But it's one thing for Tracy McGrady to look back. On his own feelings camello Anthony is living his own feelings in the moment. I believe that. If Carmelo Anthony doesn't go to another team. And I think he should go to the Lakers as you know. But if he doesn't go to another team if he walks now and takes this advice. I think he walks looking like a loser. I don't think you'll do it. I don't think Tony this is this is difficult. There's nuance here. This is not a sports radio topic sports talk radio should he quit. Should he stay a lot of gray area? It's mostly great. But I think that's what I'm I think I'm more leaning toward listening to Tracy McGrady who listening to on the jump all the time because he's thoughtful he's not as loud, as we are Tracy has a a low volume voice, and he's thinking about things, and he knows how he was ju- thin. Carmelo Anthony can still play well enough to be in the league and be effective because I do well. But one thing that traces says is once you're not the primary score. And that is in your role for more than a decade, then you just sort of there. And he knows a Guinea knows. He did he did that. So I I'm tending to lean toward Tracy McGrady. And before Tracy said these things I was with your position. I think of Carmelo Anthony knows he can't play. He actually knows it and he should quit. But if you think he thinks he can still play I think in the in the moment, they all think they can play in the moment. Tracy McGrady thirty will sign him. I think he'd be good on the Lakers. Him who the Knicks the next take him back? What do they got? They got. Then you then you play out the end of your career with, but you scoring people cheering adoring you in a place on the Madison, you New York City about sure it ended very badly there. Let's take a break. But coming up as Jerry Jones, really looking at Lincoln Riley. We're going to ask him as a psalm Brady feel like he is getting older. We're gonna ask him to role play. I'm fascinated by the to aunt and green stuff. I think this poisons the team wouldn't tracking the domestic dust bunny. You come to find them hiding under wardrobes next to soaks due to some they'll scurry off. What's fascinating about the dust bunny is that although they'll not actually essential creatures when they have not only saves people money, but also has a ninety seven percents customer satisfaction rating this obvious to them you should switch because Yesler. Switching to gyco is a no brainer. Oh, no. It's the only natural predator on the on his run along. Time to get it on with a little role play. Let's get started, Mike. Why don't you give? All right. Jerry jones. Good. You really have your eye on Lincoln Riley, Lincoln Riley, the the college guy. Yeah. Why would I wanna college guy from Oklahoma? When I've got a pro coach right now in Jason winning guy has been high coach since two thousand ten I love Jason guy. That's why he's my coach. I I mean that winning Jerry. Well, it's obvious. We're not winning anything. But it's also obvious. I love the guy just give me about four to six more years to figure out how I feel about Jason you'll be the big the big criteria for Lincoln Riley that he developed Baker Mayfield. How many playoff games has Baker Mayfield one? None is the answer. How Many's Jared one guys want one? So why would I go backwards? Why what why do you think I wanna get rid of? Jason Garrett has been with me keep it so long from ten more years. I'm not flighty. I'm not flighty. I guess not you rolling. All right on a. Tom Brady, there are whispers that you're getting old whispers, what are you have to say about that? You know, what happens in all the ball? Florida's a little we see how many times I've thrown it alone outside of those outs. Tony. I mean that's a little disconcerting. I don't make decisions as quickly as I used to. I mean, it's a difficult thing. Now when you get to be forty one and you're still beating everybody's brains. Go looking at you can't. Say you can't run anymore. Those twenty five year olds got that home waiting for them. You can't tripped out of the backfield and catch and run drift. I couldn't drink when I was in Michigan how well talking about long. Are you going to go Tom forty five fifty fifty? It was catching me anybody out there. Baker mayfield. My records. All the yards. He wants he's got one Super Bowl one. How many? How many tell me what what time? Thank you. In business who I am. You are Alex Cora. Yeah. How do you feel about losing the manager of the year award to Bob Melvin of fine? With Melvin I'm fine with Manny, should I get this award over, Bob. Melvin what did I do? I took a job. I never had before I one hundred eight games in a regular season. And then I won the World Series. You know what? Bob Melvin did to win the award. What he lost a wildcard game? Bob numbers genius. He must have no resources less about a dollar ninety seven has won three different manager of the year war job. And you can't name any team that he ever won for. I went through the world's. I went to the playoffs three resources to the Yankees. When astros. I went through the dodgers. And they gave you to Bob. Melvin are you one of those smells, are you? One of those guys who just does what killed us. By the number of the analytic series next year. They'll probably give this award to Bill. Melvin I don't know who that is about Harold Melvin. Errol? Melvin who am I it's a hard name from New York to? What do you think of your coaches decision to start you against the citadel? Tony I start me off by telling me Knicks. He's not here. Now, where's the citadel the city? I believe is in South Carolina. But it's one AA. What does that? Well, it's. CS? It's BCS PBS CBS. What what is he doing? I mean, people think tough on players in the NBA. Nobody's tackling tips players around the knees. Let me just say this. If I win this year, I'm gonna take the next season off prepare for the draft. I go up and get one of those million dollar internships at new balance on now say Nick how you like me now. But here's what Nick did plucked you from the sidelines championship game. Now, you will warned him, but mitt gave you this opportunity. Remember, the movie Eddie Murphy start opening scenes, and he says I got legs. I got Legg's trading places. I'm not gonna have legs role. Play is over wasn't good for you as it was for two. Let's take one last break, but still to come. What should we expect to see how to Duke tonight and Lamar Jackson about to get his first start for the ravens? If I applaud Melvin walked in here. Would you know, you wouldn't know him from Bob Woodward? And you know, I know Bob Woodward, belco. Belco. Twenty fifth birthday Francisco indoor the Cleveland Indian shortstop sort of got lost the season as his team in the wake of the Red Sox Yankees in the Astros all winning a hundred plus games. But for all the talk of shortstop like Manny Machado or other prominent shortstops Trevor story, I'll be by Bogart's Lindores had thirty rumors ninety two Rb. He's as good as any of that. He got lost in great performances by those guys and great team. Yes. I still believe in him if I'm Cleveland absolutely happy anniversary, Don Shula on this day. Twenty five years ago, you pay us. George Papa bear house for most wins by head coach in the NFL Shula finished with three hundred forty seven career victories or sixty two more than Bill Belichick was currently third all time. She'll eight years old living in Miami. And wishing well Mike Shula was sixty five when he quit Bella chicken, sixty six. Now, do you think he'll pass Shula even if he's rolling? He could need. Six more years. But I don't know that I expect him to pass Don Shula happy trails to save by Jacob Marston. Nuts goal. Goaltender allowed the islanders. Tom knuckle to score this bear hander from his backside. You can see inaugurals falling over as he hits the puck defines a sliver daylight between Mark soms blocker in the post a research indicates that Alex Ovechkin one goal like this and fill time, we are going to show it to you. Well, his did hit recognize him. In those Younis w what everybody seems like once a year. There's a on his bat. Great-looking sweep it's great great skill and one correction, it's the island of misfit toys, not the land of. Don't you think finit toys over his practice with a hip injury? Lamar Jackson time formed five seem a little desperate with the desperation. Maybe solve Joey Bosa returned to practice charges. August the deal. He's really good. And they're already pretty good. They get better. Vivian string of rutger's thousand win last night. Your thoughts. Tony she has been the four final fours and one and I went and been Rutgers been in the final four, I know nobody Gino and Pat summitt but a string of way up eastern Michigan at number one Duke tonight, we expect I expect on Williamson highlights expected to win. That's what I expand mid week matches buffalo in northern Illinois six conference both action. We'll both win tonight. Maybe. UP trying to better the next time. I'm Tony Kornheiser. I'm Mike Lobont. Same time tomorrow. 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Episode 244: Naked Came the Stranger (Entry 823.MT2538)

Omnibus! With Ken Jennings and John Roderick

1:04:10 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 244: Naked Came the Stranger (Entry 823.MT2538)

"Nothing we are Jennings and John Rodrick. We speak to you from our present which we can only assume as your distant past the turbulent time that was the early twenty first century during the great cataclysm that will surely befall our civilization. We began this monumental reference of strange obscure human knowledge. These recordings represent our attempt to compile and preserve wonders esoterica. That would otherwise be lost. So whether you're listening from an advanced civilization or just reinvented the technology to decrypt our transmissions. This is our legacy to you. This is our time capsule. This is the you have accessed entry. Eight two three dot M. T. Two five three eight certificate number five zero one. Five zero naked came the stranger. Let's face it all. I know how to do is take off my clothes. I don't even know how to say it could game the stranger. Well it's not like a spooky mystery novel it is to me. Sex Sex frightens me. No I don't well in an is there any scenario where. Ucf Naked Stranger. And it's not a little scary you. Well you're right. All nakedness is a little scary. Spent more strangers scary especially if the stranger is coming I mean I think it depends on how you know you can know somebody a brief period of time and they are still a stranger but you know them a little and so I guess naked came the stranger it. The question is how strangers this stranger. If you see how naked right if you see someone that's naked and coming and a complete stranger think that's scarier than if if they're like Oh. This is a stranger but we've known each other for like two hours. There have movies. There have been movies that have milked the scariness of seeing someone naked. Where you don't expect to see them naked and it doesn't always have to be like the cronin the shining right like it's even. It's even kind of spooky and I don't know just kind of disturbing away when Like Elizabeth Isabel Rossellini nudity and Blue Velvet. I think just because it's so weird to see someone walking down the street naked. It's it's too vulnerable. It feels like something terrible has happened or is about to happen which is probably usually true. When someone's walking down the street. Have you ever seen someone walking naked down the street? I don't think so. I mean not being a woman I have not been like exposed to in public by a creeper a flasher right but that's to virtually every woman I know right at some point I don't know if that counts as naked. I have seen a naked people in the street and it has never been a good scene. It's been a bad scene every time and and they've been women not men so you're right. Drugs drugs are involved. Yeah Drugs and and just bad bad times all around but yeah there have been other times when someone who is nominally. A stranger but a new friend has been naked. Still a stranger for the most part and yet it's not a terrible thing strangers just a friend you haven't met. A stranger is a friend that you met a couple of. Can you are famous author? I am not of one. Who's books trouble the top spot in the New York Times Bestseller List? Every time he published a new trouble. Yes I'm famous author but I'm not a famous author right okay. That's interesting but I have written twelve books. I feel like pretty solid Middle East resume. Let's call you a solid author. I'm extremely tangible. Do you have a sense? I know you do what constitutes what sort of numbers constitute a bestseller. It is a little bit sad. It's probably changed over time. It has I mean the weird thing about publishing is that there are a tiny number of. It's like it's like running a venture capital fund basically if you're a publisher you're a very tiny number of mega bestsellers that are enormously profitable and fund the rest of the enterprise in which most books do not make back their advance right so some books. If you get a Harry Potter on your list then you can just know. You're going to send sell one hundred million copies for everybody dines out for for fifty years on it and that subsidizes a bunch of writers who I mean. It's it's a little different now that there's multiple New York Times bestseller list like I've been. I think I was in the top ten of the New York Times bestseller list but it was like general nonfiction or something. It's all broken up by category right now and I. I feel like my books book. That does well for me. We'll sell in the mid to high five figures and that's so eighty thousand copies. That seems high for me but yeah that's fifty thousand copies. Yeah fifty somewhere in. That ballpark is what I would think is like a huge success. Seems like a big big book but imagine if you if you have fifty thousand people watched your TV show you jump off a bridge right? Although in my business in Indie rock shirt fifty thousand copies of a record is is a good showing the top two percent of all records and I assume the royalty system is not that different in that. You're making a couple of bucks a buck or two for each copy. It depends on the record label if you had a If you were signed to Atlantic records or whatever Sony and you sold fifty thousand copies they would be really disappointed and and you would make zero dollars but if you were on an independent label fifty thousand copies would would be fairly profitable for. I mean. That's the long winters albums. I think the top two selling ones are now edging to ward having sold fifty thousand copies after ten or more years of being released so we were never any any bigger than your books or this son podcast. Yeah we we imagine. Millions of of the Aspen tree colonies. Enjoying this in the future. Maybe that's just one sale but our era I think we're inching up to maybe fifty thousand people might hear one of these over the lifetime of the show. Well but you know our show is still still pretty new but also I think I think if we go back to the early episodes. It's slightly more than that now but it is. It is as long Tail Long Tail Right. And that is that's always been true in publishing. I wasn't always true in in music because the price of the cost of getting into to record making was prohibitively high to make an album cost a lot of money. Used to cost a lot of money is it. Is it physically pressing in Denver? Getting it and so in the old days of the music industry there were regional releases. Some abandoned come out with a song that was regional to upstate. New York and like what's your favorite upstate New York Garage Party rock anthem. Actually I have one. It's by the band Duke Jupiter. Who was sort of a New York band? They have a song called. I'll drink to you but came out in one thousand nine hundred eighty two. It's a great song not really. I don't think it bothered anybody right. Didn't trouble anyone past the sort of the genesee. Oh how did you come across upstate? New York Post punk classic crewing up in Anchorage. I had a friend. That had emigrated to Anchorage from I think Buffalo and integrated this country. This is this is nine hundred eighty two thereabouts and and he brought the Duke Jupiter seven inch and it was. I mean it's just good old fashioned rock and roll but it It stuck with me. I can still sing the song there. Speaking of regional releases. There is a Vancouver punk band called Ken Jennings Real and they sent me a seven inch. I'm good listening. I've never actually. I don't WanNA turntable. I never actually my should bring it over so so it was tough to have a in nineteen seventy five. It was tough to have a a band that was successful selling fifty thousand copies and I think they're up to sell six figures at that time but but there were several bands. I think even aerosmith is like this. The first couple of records didn't sell very well and it was only when toys in the attic came out that all of a sudden the early records started to sell as well scour the back catalog and it was it was maybe that that record labels had invested enough in a band like that that they were willing to go three records to try and develop an audience But does not anymore and in any field knowing in any field but in the small scale and this was our problem with with with iheart media they their business model was to try to get seven million people to listen to a podcast and if there was there was a successful podcast. I was slightly smaller than that. Once they found out you were one of the mid list shows you know. We felt very good about that. And that was not their emphasis. They didn't support the show. After that and leeway I feel like my way of saying it was nicer. It wasn't their advertising emphasis. No no no. That's right. It wasn't their advertising and it's probably honestly. I think on the ground. The it's an effective having ad sales on commission you know nobody wants to sell ads in the show that everybody's trying to sell ads in the show. That has a million listeners. That's where the not as I heart wanted to know on our show today today. It's quite easy to find has because we're no longer using a big company where they commissioned paid ad for us in the old days of publishing and this is up. Until the you know the fifties and sixties book-publishing was really a large leave as you're describing. It is today largely a loss leader. Most books didn't recoup the few ones that did supported the industry but it was very much an old boy network and one of a kind of literati east coast. Smarty pants is that we're publishing middling books every once in a while you'd get a Phillip Roth. That would become popular because his his book had fifty pages worth of masturbation talk. That's where people wanted or Steinbeck right. But but mostly it was a pretty stayed. Group of of New Yorkers. Were that that filled the buying each other's books. Yeah that's you see the vestiges of this today in publishing where they still Are In an industry. Where it's it's not clear how it would make money like their practices. Just don't make sense. And they're clearly vestiges of a time. When for whatever reason? Economic CONSIDERATIONS WERE SECONDARY. Know sending an author around on a book tour. Like my first few books. I I went to ten or twenty cities because that was considered. I mean it persisted as a perk but that was considered the way to get word out about a book was to fly an author to a city have him read an excerpt to fifteen to twenty five people in Walden. Books are a campus bookstore and then some of that would jump start interest and of course somebody would write an article in the local alternative paper and even on the page. You can do the math and see that fifty and people buy a copy of a book. That doesn't even pay the one night in the hotel. Why are we doing this right well? It's a it's a curious business and I think you see now a lot of a lot of publishers. Their bread and butter is actually autobiographies of celebrities. Sports Stars television stars biographies of celebrities like Yoko Ono of celebrities like oconee cookbook. That's the best seller. Was that one of the stuff that they think is gonNA jump out at an airport and make you feel like I'll read a book by some CIA agent and they're right that stuff does sell. Literary fiction and literary fiction is a harder sell. You've got to put somebody in the mood of a movie without without being able to show me of a book without even being Shaima trailer right like you would in a movie. But in the nineteen fifties and sixties there was kind of an evolution in publishing that. That feels like it was partly a co-op tation of what was happening in Hollywood. There's no way cooptations the correct word. How would you pronounce it? I don't know co-option co-option coopting coop. Coop Kitchen Koalas. Let's call it co-option Hollywood had gone from the early days that we've we've talked about on the omnibus where Where the stars of the movies weren't even mentioned by name two time when there was a lot of fixation what was happening with the stars thanks to Florence Lawrence thanks to Florence Florence Lawrence entry and there was there was quite a bit of of titillating gossip about the stars swapping spouses and doing drugs and and that sold a lot of tabloids. Sure I want to know which of my favorite stars were smoking reefer. That's right that's all I care about and that Started to infiltrate the novels that were being published the popular novels. You know. They're always been Zane Grey novels and adventure stories and so forth but cheap pulp novel. Yeah but they're starting to be cheap pulping novels about contemporary people thinly veiled stories of Hollywood stars that were you know they were and sexy novels. Now trashing all I never would have thought of those coming from the gossip tabloid press. That's really interesting that People just wanted a fictional version of of the stories. They were hearing over there back fence about Jean. Harlow right true crime a lot of people you know a lot of stars overdosing and in Hollywood stories of murderers and so forth. You know a like the that kind of stuff that was. This was not historical fiction. This was not. They weren't really spire adventure novels. It was it was like they were. They had a lot of sex in them for what we think of as a prudish Tom Their lurid and they're they're kind of about regular folks is at the idea there or over Noel Bowl would you would see Elizabeth Taylor but you would recognize her as a reader but she'd have a pseudonym you know she'd be fictionalized Lana Turner but these in the books. They're they're famous people. They're they're glamorous oftentimes heiresses and entertainers and whatnot. One of the best selling authors of all time is a man by the name Herald. Robin or sure held Robin sold millions of books and was a celebrity in his own. Right He as of this broadcast has sold over seven hundred and fifty million books which is a new imagine damaging number. And you see them. All in used bookstores. Yeah I mean it's funny to walk through. These books aren't just see shelves of this kind of Jacqueline Susann. Kind of disposable literature you create a brand you. You're writing as fast as you can because people will finish WANNA on the train and they'll they'll want another one like that well. Jacqueline Susann is a is a great example. You know the she is kind of widely regarded as the as the author that invented the book tour interesting prior to Jacqueline Susann. There wasn't there wasn't a sense of author being promoted as a kind of Hollywood sex sort of celebrity in their own. They would just sit at home and hope reviews. Came in and Jacqueline. Susann was first an actress. She had like a pretty long career as initially kind of a stage actress and then got into got into television commercials and then had had several talk shows. The course of the fifties she was. She was never like a. You know a lead actress but she started writing plays. She was kind of a polymath thick. Or you know like a a multi talented person. So she's a personality even before she writes Valley of the dolls personality that You know was was a comedian. She played she she was. She was the spokesperson for for a lace and embroidery company. That did television commercials. She she knows and she was a wit and only started writing Pretty late in her her career like late fifties. She wrote a book about her dog. A book called aaliyah. The dog no called every night Josephine. Her Dog's name was Josephine. And she she wrote letters to friends about the funny antics of her dog. Josephine and they were like Jackie. You should write a book and so she took these letters and compiled them into a book about a about Josephine which went onto sell. Almost two million copies probably by now too. That's so funny because that's still a publishing. Juggernaut is the book about the dog. Yeah Marley and me or Jimmy. Stewart's poems about his damn dog here in Seattle. It's the art of racing in the rain. Guy Yeah but it's it's For some reason dog owners want to read books about other dog owners dog antics and which doesn't seem like books don't seem like the right medium for that. Well you know I mean if you're a dog owner you WANNA consume dog based material in every media because those people are also watching. Dog Shows and listening to dog podcast. Just feel like a description of a dog doing something cute like now that we're in the golden age of videos someone describing one of these videos to me is death. Well the thing about it is people like to think. They like to anthropomorphized dogs. That's true the book gives you nation and viewpoint and right so you can impart to the dog all kinds of motivations within a book whereas a dog video. You're you're just left to wonder. I thought it was when I was a kid. I didn't like dog barks boring. I mean the boy has a dog and the dog dies. Of course I read many of those but if it was the incredible journey or ribs or something from the point of view of the dog I just realized very quickly. This has something to say. Star doesn't even own clothes. Like what why do I care about what it thinks like it? Would it would eat? Its owner's face off to eat. Henry Huggins is face off in the after the apocalypse. I think in the case of Josephine Josephine was a little serve lapdog and so not as likely to eat Jacqueline. Suzanne's face through but when the when the book started to sell and when it was popular Jacqueline Susann who had a long career in front of the camera or in the spotlight and liked. That part of life went on a tour with Josephine. The doll and became a draw. People would come to love the loved it so much. They would come to meet her. Get her to sign books. She was very she catered to bookstore she was she said a lot of thank you letters. And so in a way invented the idea that an author would go around the country and meet her fan. Signed BOOKS. And it really. They just came to to meet Josephine the dog and and Suzanne together they were they were It was a package deal and authors. Regard that as a perk. They don't get out of the house much so the fact that they could actually go around the country order room service very exciting to these to these right to actually meet human beings. I was at a book event once and I was asked if I wanted to meet good dog Carl and you know I was introduced to this dog that I was apparently supposed to known. I pretended to be a huge fan of good dog. Carl and his owner who writes children's books about good dog Carl. I was like that when someone introduced me J.J. Abrams nice to meet you. Some famous person Jacqueline Susann then wrote Valley of the dolls which was a massive success and it was exactly this kind of book Sort of story of three women. The the titular dolls in this in this book are drugs right. The dolls are not the women. Is that drug slang? I don't know doyle. She invented. She invented it dolls. Were her sort of like code. Word for veterans and so all the all three of the main characters in the book are you know they're all women from various walks of life and and their lives are destroyed by amphetamines. But there's a lot of sort of sexy. I'm sure there's lots of sexual adventures on the way I mean. That was the appeal of a lot of these books. They were bought by women at a time when you know pornography was not available to women in any way right narrative porn rather than just share a looping. I don't know how much of this is called. General how much is innate? But we actually think of this as a kind of thing. That's this particularly interesting to women. They they prefer the description the narrative rather than the visual person. Yeah this is the fifty shades of gray situation where the book gives you. It has just enough of an imprimatur of literature that it's something you could read on the train. Something to be embarrassed by but then there's all this sort of bodice ripping this double standard whereby you know you get snood sneered at somebody reading a magazine on the train. That's the thing you're just sitting on the train with your phone. You know trying to conceal the the thirty second gift of two people making out. That's what happens at public libraries now so much on the train right. Everybody's looking at computers. Well Valley of the dolls was a massive success as I say but also critically panned by everyone. There wasn't a single person in the literati in the New York publishing world in the New York review books on television even anyone who was reviewing books at the time Gave it two thumbs down. But that did not inhibit its sales and again. Jacqueline Susann went around the around the country promoting it and having a good old time appearing on the Johnny Carson show with with lots of Bomo and And all of her subsequent books also and she didn't write many because she died prematurely of cancer but all of her books were hits they all went to the top of the Charts. They all sold in copious quantities. And they were all reviled by the smarty pants is and this is true. Also of the Harold Robbins Book and a lot of books that were at the top of the charts were regarded as trash by the people whose books were not selling. There's some gender aspect to that as well. You KNOW ROMANCE NOVELS. Not of any kind are not generally held in high esteem. You know to this day Nora. Roberts probably writes a book a week right and people go to the supermarket and buy them all and nobody bothers to even view them. Because it's just a romance novel. There's a big difference between a romance novel. I think and these novels which are sensationalistic novels. Right they're not just about a woman who's living on the Fan. Man Shirtless shirtless writer. T shirt was rider. Exactly be their books that That a contemporary re reader would be able to situate in time and place and a lot of them are about Hollywood or Hollywood adjacent but they they they have the they haven't aspect of expose right. This is again kind of tabloid culture. Where it's like behind the scenes. This is what's really happening in the world and so it's titillating in a different way. It's not just that you're reading about sex. It's that you're seeing glimpse of how decadent the the world of the rich and famous are and this was before we learned to hate the rich and famous. I mean it's Joan Collins Sister Jackie with all her Hollywood wise book. It's exactly the and I've never read a single one single book in this genre the farthest thing from an authority busy reading books about the pyramids. I have not read any books in the Shawn Ray either but but there are always sitting in vacation houses and stuff. Why am I not picking up a Stephen King? That's what my kids are eating Stephen Cake. But this this kind of style infuriated the literature types and it it like a lot of snobs in the music business. There was a sense that the things that were popular. The books that were popular were garbage and and they were clogging the system. They were drowning out the the the great books that that the the serious novelists believed if everyone read their great books. Course it would bring peace to the world and that we would be living in a in a nation of philosopher kings. And of course. That's not true. These people didn't by Harold Robbins Book. They just wouldn't buy a book that year in the Nineteen fifty-six there was an incident where a radio personality by the name of Jean Shepard. A became convinced that the best seller list was rigged. And at the time the bestseller list was Rick I mean it was compiled partly by asking bookstore. Owners which books were being requested. The most and radio. Yeah that's right. It's exactly like how does that how booksellers used to work. Hey I'd like to dedicate this copy of eastern by John Steinbeck to my girlfriend Diana but if people came in and said like I'd like to I'd like to get a copy of this book and the book store didn't have it. They would write it down another request for this book. And then that was how they determined the charts. Emily incentivizes books with low orders. Right this was true of the music business for decades. It was the top of the charts. Were were largely compiled by asking by polling. Unofficially polling record store owner and. Dj's who what records do you think are the most popular ones? It's so funny for who poured over these authoritative lists. Yeah to find that it was all made up possibly paid off. Well there wasn't any way of At the time sort of There weren't actuaries that we're monitoring actual record sales record. Companies kept that stuff secret and that was why Paola came in to the situation. Is that you could just pay somebody to lie. But also you're calling some guy at a record store and he's like The most popular record is a devaux. My experience of being in my twenty s in America was that record store. Clerks are not the most reliable people you would. You would go in if you were doing any kind of data analysis. You're like I'd like to buy this heavy Middle Judas priest record and they're like it's not actually heavy metal. Don't trust their tattoo choices. Much less their their data compiling so this this this personality Jean Shepard famous. Yeah yeah like. He's the Christmas story he's A. He's a Red Ryder. Bb rifle with the thing in the stock. Yeah Jean Shepard had had a lot of midwestern storyteller figure and an extensive Radio audience in the mid fifty like a late night. Radio show that people just plan their evenings around and and a member of this class of smart people in the world that are making good culture and he started to encourage his listeners to go into bookstores and recruit request. The book I liberty now. There was no book I libertine but it sounds like it's Kinda got the either Jerry Thing of Mickey Splinter Crime Book Right. It's it's perfect. It has the word Libertine like one of these kind of period novels where it uses a fancy sex word It's good and and enough of his listeners. The Guardian on this hoax that I libertine shot up the New York Times Books List and became like a publishing sensation and there was no without existing and so like Chinese democracy or whatever long after it was already like on the top of the charts. He gene met with an author named Theodore sturgeon and contacted him to write I libertine. And there's a they put together a a very lurid cover of a of a sort of Dan you know. Eighteenth Century Dandy and the the the book cover is is filled with little jokes inside references. And he wrote this book feel sturgeon sat down and wrote in one tried to write it in one uninterrupted typing session just like road and wrote and wrote and wrote and wrote until he passed out and I think ultimately the book was finished by the wife of the publisher who just kind of stepped in and like wrapped it up if our audience does not know who theodore sturgeon is. He was one of the great pulp sci. Fi Writers of the thirties and forties and fifties. I think he he wrote the Star Trek. Where Kirk sees the white rabbits or whatever some kind of planet where whatever you picture happens right buff marshmallow man or whatever. I think. Today's mostly remembered for well two things. One he inspired. Kurt vonnegut gates pulp crazy pulp. Sifi character kilgore trout trout sturgeon interested if I had no idea that theodore sturgeon was kilgore trout in last name. Alone I guess. And then he also is responsible for sturgeons law which has become really popular and discussions of highbrow vs lowbrow culture. You know surgeons law no surgeons life is I. Don't know what the number is. Ninety percent of everything is crap so it's as a as a science fiction guy when people would say well. Science fiction is just as low brow. It's crap he would say. No no there's just like anything else. There's this is a small percentage of good science fiction and a lot of crap but that's true of of yours genre as well. He's probably not wrong. True of a of American auto manufacturing true of sports teams. And it's the subtext of discussions in our culture to this day. Like when Martin. Scorsese is asked what he thinks about marvel movies. You know the assumption is that prestige get your average prestige gangster. Movie is more interesting or individualistic than your average suit marvel studios product which. I would probably agree with but surgeons losses. No No. There's remember all the lousy gangster movies too. You're putting up. Scorsese the best of those against well. I Guess Marvel would actually be the best of the superheroes movies right but whatever well. So so the so Jean. Shepard and Theodore Sturgeon proved their point which was not just that the thing was rigged but that the broken broken and you could then you could fill the slot with a novel written over the course of a night and it would. It would continue to sell like their hoax proved their point. I guess well fast forward to the fast forward ten years to the middle sixties. The New York literature set had become extremely disgruntled. By the fact that the that the bestseller list was no longer no longer populated by serious novels by serious authors. It was now there were no more books of poetry there. It was all this sort of the the sensationalist novels featuring drug-addicted housewives and particularly irked. Some people in in New York who were working for a daily tabloid newspaper called Newsday familiar with Newsday. Yeah sure news persisted into the army is still printed. It exists even now so New York City is a big enough city kind of like London where it can support multiple newspapers that end up having a more wide ranging influence than than you would you would think was possible for a small newsp- or I'm sorry local newspaper and in New York. There are a few tabloids that are modelled on the British style that are some owned by British owners right or or billions that are extremely sensationalist. They're not interested in the truth. They're interested in selling newspapers and they and they say any you know anything they can think of. Did the invention of quick date basically like the front of the paper is going to have some splashy true crime or Princess Diana scandal or something but Newsday was although a daily paper and and And designed as a round the tablet format it was a serious newspaper and was regarded as the smart tabloid in the United States. A serious newspaper that that had real journalists working for it over the years a lot of the sort of big names a Gel burr. H L Mencken. There were sort of the top tier critics because it was a newspaper. That served the Greater New York Metropolitan area. It had it had access to the to a lot of the great writers and did quite a bit of in depth journalism It was it was part of the Newsday played a role in in coverage of Watergate like somewhat instrumental role in Watergate and also was one of the newspapers that that that took a stand against the Vietnam War duck during the sort of mid sixties. It was actually edited by Bill. Moyers who had been who had been a speechwriter for for Kennedy and Johnson and Bill. Maher IS OF COURSE. We know as a as a later day television person. Ubs type PBS journalist but he was the editor it was An and they famously published the writings of John. Steinbeck in the late sixties we talked about we talked about this phenomenon in our last episode. Steinbeck had been a famous and revered liberal throughout the amid part of the twentieth century. A real new dealer who by the sixties found himself on the wrong side of politics believing he was still a liberal believing he was still a everyone else changed. He was the AL CAPP of this story and he wrote a series of articles. He actually traveled to Vietnam Steinbeck. This is after travels with Charley. This is after his Pulitzer Prize. These are travels where the the difference early he added. Curly don't serve. He went there and sent a send a whole series of articles back from Vietnam basically one hundred percent supporting the LBJ cheerleading. The war narrative. The didn't notice that's really interesting. Yeah he believed in the the domino theory and he traveled with the troops. He had. He's in bed. He had a son that was there fighting in Vietnam and wrote these a wrote these these missive 's and they were extremely controversial at the time because the public opinion was beginning to turn against the war. And certainly the liberal public opinion had turned against the war and the idea that Steinbeck this literary giant Fan. Yeah who had you know who had written the dust bowl depict the moral authority of the Depression? Right had become a hawk and and like Al Capp believed he was still on the right side of history and in fact those those writings of Steinbeck were suppressed They appeared in Newsday. And then we're never again never compiled and published. I think his STEINBECK's whitlow wanted nothing to do with them. A lot of people in the Steinbeck can't believe they tarnished his legacy and it was only during the Obama Administration that the collected pro-vietnam work of Steinbeck was was published as a as a single volume steinbeck in Vietnam. Probably just as a Curio for. It's interesting because he did. He made the transition. My Dad did which was by the by the time by nineteen seventy steinbeck realized his mistake and ended up understanding I think partly under the influence of his son who had fought their came around to an anti-war point of view. I guess I never thought about it. It must have been a lot of the kids coming home. That changed their parents. Mind Yeah just I think and also watching the war depicted on television. I think got to people of that. Greatest generation who you know kind of couldn't believe their eyes and I think I think the consensus about his writings about Vietnam were that he was thinking allowed in the newspaper and he was indignant. But also you could. You could hear his his voice just kind of processing the war and maybe trying to explain it to himself. I mean that comes with being an authority for decades right. You just kind of assume there's going to be an audience for your musings. And sometimes they should maybe be a little more examined. There was a writer at Newsday by the name of Mike McGrady and he was sort of recruited by Bill Moyers to respond to Steinbeck ended up Reading a book called a dove in Vietnam. Anyone is a reporter and countered the steinbeck letters with with a real tough take on Vietnam and was famous for it and and a very respected writer of the time but he was also a member of this New York writing culture that that kind of couldn't believe having published a dove in Vietnam sort of couldn't believe that Jacqueline Suzanne's latest novel about housewives on pills was selling millions of copies a day. He was radicalized by so many people in his book didn't sell and so he concocted the idea with with a group of his fellow. Newsday writer. Who When you look at them in photographs they are. The classic nicotine stained fingers. They all have dark glass or dark framed. Nerd glasses and receding hairlines Tai. Hang out in whatever that bar wise you know. We missed the time when we could hang out with these growth reporters that had all gone to Vietnam. Seen it all so he went to his group of friends and he said I'm going to. We need to write a A pulp novel and I wanted to be as bad as possible. Was He hoping to just point out? How flimsy fake whole endeavor was hoping this was his way to make a fortune no he was hoping to spoof okay to spoof it and you know. I think hoping against hope that he would that this book would actually fool people. But what's popular like Mel Brooks had a late period? Hit was baseball's because people wanted to see something star wars in theaters and it was in his desire to make it intentionally bad. I think he intended that it would be received as a spoof right. I don't I don't think he really expected that the book would fool anybody. It was meant as a almost national. Lampoon style. America's High School Yearbook. And there'd be some teeth in it right if he actually didn't like these kinds of books could kind of point out the folly of. Oh yeah it was it was. It was a sneering book a few years ago during the two thousand sixteen run up to the two thousand sixteen election. I was part of a project. Where a bunch of indie rockers wrote songs about the upcoming election. I remember most of the most of the songs were biting Not Satirical they were just. They just said what they thought. Yeah just like that hate trump or whatever and I wrote a song called make America great again in the in the character of a pro-trump songwriter and all lyrics. Were just sort of what you would. It was just a song as though written by approach. Songwriter and I actually did fool A lot of people as recently as a few weeks ago it got resurrected and people are like well. What about this dark chapter in in John's musical career he wrote a trump side? That's right there. Were there. Were a lot of leftists. Who were appalled by it and some conservatives that adopted it I actually. He's got a message from someone who said. I'm an ultra conservative. I really like your shows. I know your song is a parody but I prefer to listen to it as though it were sincere. There's so little good media for these people they'll take anything can read those reilly about Paul Revere. Thanks for your service and good but but this book which was written by by this group of Newsday Writers. There were twenty five men and two women. That's probably generous for what the ratio actually would have been. These bars right They they wrote a book where each writer wrote. A CHAPTER. And the premise. Was you know kind of the flimsiest premise? That a woman will. There was a husband wife. Couple named bill and Jillian Gillian. How do you pronounce that name? It's Jillian Right G. Yeah most people say Jillian but I know I met Gillian. Flynn wants and she says Gillian wrong. Husband and wife that have a radio show billion the billion Gilly show and The their marriage falls apart but they continued to do the show and the husband is unfaithful. And so Jillian Blake or Gillian. Blake B. The the the heroine of the book proceeds to go around her long island neighborhood and sleep with everyone she can and so each each story. Each vignette is a different partner. Is Gillian man? That's right there's a there's a mobster. There's a rabbi. She's just having sex with everybody. Each chapter written by a different person. Each chapter written as poorly as that writer can muster tortured analogies terrible metaphors. I find bad writing to be hard. It's very true true bad song writing as well. Well yeah it is and in fact. When Mike McGrady was was editing the book he said he really had to work hard to to dumb. The writing down it with a lot of these writers were just too good and they couldn't stop. They couldn't stop themselves right. They once they got into it. They were actually writing fairly good writing. They publish the book under the Pseudonym Penelope Ashe and that's with an e a woman that they portrayed as frustrated housewife from Long Island. Who wrote this book? You know as part of her. She wasn't actually sleeping with everybody in the neighborhood. This was her. She's working through some things. This was her sex fantasy and they actually got a picture of Mike. Mcgrady sister-in-law's beautiful girl put her on the back cover. And they reached out to lyle. Stuart a man that we've met before on the remind me as the publisher of the anarchist cookbook right and allows Stewart. Was you know a dirty book peddler but not not like a smut book peddler but like he was the guy that wanted to publish all the books? That no one else dared. He was a friend of Bill. Gaines the publisher of a madman. Because there could have been obscenity. Trials back then right and and these were these were books that he this was the era when they were really pushing the Pushing Censorship laws pushing the First Amendment as a you know a Back in the First Amendment was something that that like. Publishers really stood up for what he would have been a test case. There's legal risking pretty stuff like that back then. And he ended up. I mean Lyle Stuart at one of the one of the downsides of being lyle Stuart as he ended up publishing the Turner. Diaries which were which was the conspiracy book that influenced Timothy McVeigh or or reputedly did enter turned out to be some kind of hoax right the Turner. Diaries are totally hoax. But Lyle Stewart was he was actually one of the original owners of one of the founders of the Ladan Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas. He published a lot of books on like how to how to gamble how to how to game the system why his books must have paid then. The business was doing pretty well for them. Yeah it was even if there is Kinda shady back a magazine ads. He published a magazine called expose. It's part of the same. The same sort of like sensationalist gossip culture and so while Stewart published published naked came the stranger. They actually it was. It was wow stewart. That in reading a Hungarian nudist magazine found a picture of a beautiful blonde girl with her back to the camera he shapely naked girl with long blonde hair and he just ripped the page out of the magazine and made the cover of the book. Hungary was behind the Iron Curtain. And they don't even have property. They're never even going to see this. We should point out that these kinds of nominally nominal media celebrating the nature of the lifestyle of camping and playing volleyball naked. We're just a thinly disguised way to market pornography. As something that was clean and Natural Right Hawkeye Pearson Mash famously had a collection of nudist magazines. Where you're playing volleyball in the sun. So the the lifestyle is just a and phony. I mean there are. There are actual nudist invented. No but as a mass culture phenomenon. It just became a way to deliver softcore pornography to people without having to be in the porn business well and there are lots of people that liked to be naked but nudism also often has like weird undertones of Spouse yeah there's also a lot of swapping I would assume anyway naked came the stranger is published and I think to everyone's surprise is a hit start selling cells thirty thousand copies. How how much awareness is there out there? That it's a spook. None Penelope Ashe is a her the fiction of hers. The sister in law actually goes out and does media. She does events yeah. She's a good sport. She's a good sport. I thought maybe they just grab your picture off mantelpiece. Didn't tell her no. She's now a bestselling author on in on the game. And you know the book is basically just the worst softcore porn you ever read. I guess that just it worked. It did expose the enterprise just as a way. Get your hands on a series of explicit pages. The don't have to have any quality viewer reader. Engagement Even good prose. Apparently well and the pros is the pros is not. It's not just Like gross depictions of sex right. It's not it's not so lurid. It's it's actively bad like syntactical e and o you know over the top Simile and metaphor. And Yeah if you are you a couple of hours gonNA ask and if you're if you're if you're sensitive to this kind of talk maybe he can. Ken's fast forward dirty this out. Let's see does it have the word bosoms? Yeah like. Here's a quote. Then he appeal then he pulled off the black net panties. There was a cellophane sound as they were peeled past her knees. A self almost like the bags of sand thing from forty year old virgin where. It's clear that this person is never removed panties with that. He thrust Gillian back onto the bed. And made a flying leap with the clear intent of pinning her down to stay. But she swerved to one side and the holy man stiffed with lust. Came Down Standard I on the bedposts for outsold two minutes. He did not rise he lay there crumpled up hissing incoherently. So it's kind of this overwritten. Purple Prose for minutes did not rise. Yeah that's right. There's a lot of like. Oh Oh oh exclamation point exclamation point you know like a half a page of it. Yeah her skin. The color of India tea at summer's end flowed nicely over a senator slender frame. A very fine line between like what would be good writing of this kind. I mean it's it's hard to parody stuff. That's already that far. Her legs were superbly. Designed the hips though trim were deceptively full like. It's the it's the stuff that you've got this in a writing contest you would you? Would you would detect that. The writer was really trying but did not have the did not have good instincts and there is. There is a An award given every year by the British magazine Literary Review for the worst sexiness in fiction of the year. And it's always funny because often it goes to a big name. Who Thought he was being. You know very modest artful right getting getting in there right edit turns out there's just no there's just no good way to right. Yeah I mean out of sex Truman capote famously said I think about Jacqueline. Susann that She wrote her sex scenes as though she'd never had sex. And I think there's quite a bit of that that parodying that here in this book too so Mike. Mcgrady decides to to reveal that it's a hoax and they're booked on the David Frost. Show Penelope Ashe is booked on the David Frost show and a lot of people tune in. There's a audiences full of of women breathlessly awaiting the appearance of their of their New Literary Star Frost. Nobody's getting into does okay. And so a frost calls out the author Penelope Ashe and instead of this calmly young writer. Twenty-five men in black suits with woody allen glasses a march out onto the stage and the and the and the two women also are there. And it's a big reveal. And they think that the hoaxes perpetrated their hoax. They proved their point that you can write a book intentionally trashy and it would be a bestseller but at the revelation book sales actually increase and share. People are talking about. The book becomes an enormous hit. Even though it's commonly understood that it was written as a whole because now we know it does two things we already knew. It could titillate housewives. It can continue to do that. Currently and now there's a new second audience that wants to snigger at the jokes but also they're getting some trashy writing to and you see came the stranger even now in vacation houses. It still has that sexy picture. Although the Hungarian photographer and his model eventually after the after the fall of the Iron Curtain came after the publisher for royalties and want. Imagine if you're somebody who in the nineties and you see the Berlin Wall Fall your first thought is oh crap. What if that Hong Gary and woman finds out but the the the sad part of the story is that Mike McGrady respected and awarded journalist and a lot of the More than a couple of the writers of the chapters of the book where Pulitzer Prize winners you know like they're quite a few lauded and respected writers. They became known primarily for naked. Came the stranger like a dove in Vietnam is not anything close to the first line on Mike McCready Obituary and he went on to kind of a continued to have an lustrous journalism career. He He is the person who popularized the word house husband or invented it interesting. He decided to take a year off and take the role of househusband as his wife. Worked and then wrote a book about it and one of these we gimmicky one year experience journalism things but became a national celebrity. Because he was her. I bet he was on donahue six times the first person to to to come out as a house accept. It didn't work stay at home. Dad caught on. Yeah right househusband never actually worked. He also ended up writing a couple of books with the Porn Star. Linda lovelace because he'd become he'd always it always been a feminist but he became kind of a radicalized feminist as a result of his experience in this world of the sort of exploitative pulp sex fiction. And these these are. These are books about the porn industry. So Linda lovelace in the eighties. She'd famously starred in deep throat and in the court in this book ordeal that she wrote with Mike McCready. She revealed that her husband had forced her to make the porn film. And it was an expose of the the CD underside of of the not unusual. There is plenty of coercion and this came out in the in the mid eighties during the Nancy. Reagan Reagan Administration Tipper Gore era. Where there was a lot of hand wringing about about darn entertainment but it was also the era when adult entertainment was exploding as a as a With the rise of the VHS. But at least Michael Linda. We're telling people they should feel about that. Yes yes and and and you know. Gloria Steinem wrote the introduction to the second book like Linda. Lovelace became a A hero of of mid Eighties Feminine Tragic. She lived a tragic life. But Anyway Sadly Mike Grady now is almost universally known primarily as the writer of naked came the stranger. He wrote a book. Afterwards called a stranger. The naked a primer of how to write dirty books for fun and profit. That's his publisher. You're saying. Hey can you do that Well but he made. He made the book a You know it's a romp about having done McCain the stranger but he was actually offered a half a million dollars to write a sequel. Wow to write a equally bad sequel. And he wouldn't do it. He didn't do it. He felt like it was beneath his dignity. I just think he should not be ashamed of. Is he still with us or is he passed on? He's done I mean. I don't think you should feel bad about if your loan. Accomplishment is a really good joke I mean. He told the joke entertained millions of people when they weren't in on it and then again when they were. That's that's hard to do. He should be proud. It is and I think it's I think if you are a serious writer or musician or artist and you're novelty song is what yeah you believe that about yourself and then you have a novelty hit or or you write a joke book. That's a hit you never can. It's rare that you embrace it and say like I'm a clown now I mean dying is easy. Comedy's hard concludes naked. Came the stranger entry to three dot. Mt Two five three eight certificate number five zero one five zero future. Ling's you know by now that John and I were not invulnerable to the pressures of our time we did not reject when Suzanne books. But we did something even trashier. We were on social media as at Omnibus Project at Ken Jennings and John Roderick specifically. I mean don't get me wrong. It's classy content. 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It's it's conceivable that it's just a fungus that are that the fungus among NBA's spores varies. You you you just send out spores whenever you want and maybe you get baby fungi. Depending on you know it's not even their final form. Fungi or a fungal. You don't know don't know when the mushroom gender reveal thousands really terrible not great We hope and pray that the catastrophe we fear may never come but if the worst comes soon this recording like all recordings our final word but providence allows. We hope to be back with you soon for another entry in the.

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