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Tom McClintock: Impeachment Is a Terrible Idea

It's All Political

32:10 min | 1 year ago

Tom McClintock: Impeachment Is a Terrible Idea

"Hi I'm Greg Thomas host of the wild West podcast tune in for personal interviews with the world's top rock climbers surfers skiers ultra runners and much more. If you like getting outside exploring you'll dig wild west find it wherever you get your podcasts should trust the intelligence community here's my conversation with Tom. McClintock Congressman Tom McClintock welcome to it's all political timber eleventh and the result is we have now been mired in two decades of aimless irresolute policy of and this this was the situation that that Donald trump inherited from George W Bush and Barack Obama he had some very bad alternatives and I ah we've sacrificed thousands of of a brave young American troops we squandered trillions of dollars a out of our of our national treasury you were for the legalisation of cannabis far before every other Republican even though you are no fan of marijuana itself that it's one of one of the greatest endorsements I've ever read you think he chose the least bad of yes it does create a military vacuum they're thrown in Turkey and Russia remnants of the Islamics stripes from the Kurdish region of northern Syria now passed the house three fifty four to sixty so you're you're one of the sixty why did you oppose that state it's driven the Kirsch to to ally with the regime of El Assad None of that's desirable but I don't think any of that justified all the Korean War number one we don't attack another nation let's we're attacked and when we're forced into a war congress has to formally declare it is marijuana federally everyone and we also talked about what he thinks about what's going on in Turkey and Peach Mint and whether Americans keeping American troops in harm's way when we don't have a strategy or a commitment to accomplish anything other than continuing stalemate and if Congress and put the full resources of the country behind it and get it over with as quickly as possible we did do that after the attack all of very simply because I have long believed that we need to practice a very talking to you because you are someone who is not afraid to go against your party sometimes and I know we talked about this in the past but for example you were the fundamental principles when it comes to committing our our troops into harm's way and they were principles that guide at our country until seven Republican Congressman California Congressman Tom McClintock Hebrew percents sort of a a rural and exurban district that runs from around Lake Tahoe not enough trouble running my own life without trying to run everybody else all right so I wanted to get your take on a couple of things going on right now and So fervently object to the order to withdraw troops that had never authorized the first place maybe it ought to have the courage to authorize those troops but it does inspire what do you think could why not just do nothing there why not just leave the troops there and you know prevent and some longstanding issues to first of all this week I believe you will post resolution to oppose president trump's decision to withdraw so do you think it was a good idea to to bring those troops home as you alluded to it it could lead to resurgent of Isis South to near Fresno and even though he's one of the most conservative members of Congress I always like talking to him because once in a while breaks from the party on something like he wants to lead it could but I think it was the least of the bad alternatives the president had don't forget this is something he promised the American people that he would do and the fact is that will how're you doing you are speaking to us from our nation's capital correct right now I'm very excited to have you on always enjoyed we never had a commitment to victory we never had a the the will the Kurds and the Turks have been enemies for centuries and I don't see any American interests the the justifies maintaining US troops in the crowd in to help them out in any way like this has been the least Russia friendly administration of the last four or five so put the full might and fury of our country behind our troops when we put them in harm's way that's not fair to them I I just have a very old fat when you a bigger fan of freedom and responsibility that every grown adult that takes manage their own lives and make their own decisions frankly and get it over with just as quickly as you possibly can you're not concerned that this is a something to be done to be friendlier with Russia Russian view of of of war Try to do everything you can to stay out of it and when you have no other choice you commit all of your resources I don't I I think it was fulfilling a promise you made to the American people in two thousand sixteen that he would stop these endless wars and I in that region I don't see a vital a an American interest so vital in that region would require the committee eh of of troops that may change as events change but at the moment I think that we need to well that's that's what we've been doing of for many years now and and is caused a continuing stalemate you know you you regroup of And when we engage we engage the economic sanctions president has proposed as an attack by the Taliban government of Afghanistan using HAS ITS AGENCY The al Qaeda Organization yes we have no commitment to for unconditional surrender of the opposition and we didn't we do not have got involved in the first place closely both in American lives in American treasure and you'd like to see the troops come home from Afghanistan as as well I imagine I said I don't think there was a good alternative I think he chose the least bad of the alternative Seattle what should be done next there what would you like to see done next and through diplomatic channels but I think this business of trying to be the policeman of the world as as proven and I say worse but but certainly did not resolve of the situation there and then two years later turned around and attacked Iraq without provocation. Anyway you know when when you when you go back take a look at Afghanistan and look at the the Bush administration's response was wholly inadequate That was n-i-l-l-a-s the Taliban regime in Afghanistan had we done that I don't think we would be dealing with world terrorism today because we would have caught the world of that required the president to come to Congress next day and ask for a declaration weren't required the Congress to put the full resources of the country behind that Jason that would not have forgot but because we lacked the leadership in George W. Bush I think it was a terrible president the attack us when we do we put everything we've got bided get over with as quickly as possible I wanted to ask about the current impeachment investigation on we are and and and we ought to go back to policies that served our country well for several centuries and that is as I said we'd only attack a foreign country nation for war would you would you have been with Barbara Leave Barley McClintock against the authorization to go to War I think for some very different reasons stay which is the day before we recorded this acting chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney said there are three issues that explain why the administration held up aid to Ukraine and among the age one and you know we've been trying to wage sort of wars since Korea and they've not worked out well if there is such a thing we're really bad at the A- and the commitment of the Congress to put the full resources of the country behind the foods with placed over there we simply made a bad situation terry force and I wasn't in the Congress then I said at the time was if you cannot bear to call it a war then that is nature's way of warning you're not prepared other than cannabis I think this may be one of two areas where you agree with Barbara Lee your where you know she famously was the only person not to vote for the authors is taxpayer money to Ukraine INEX- to investigate a theory that kind of runs counter to all all the intelligence agencies of said that every authority to request a foreign government to cooperate and getting to the bottom of possibly corrupt interactions between officials in our government and there's the fact that jamming of the two thousand sixteen election Mulvaney also said quote did he also mentioned to me in passing the corruption related DNC server absolutely no question about Haydn's candidate for president currently certainly doesn't shield him from investigations involving wrongdoing while he was vice president after all the trump was subjected to invest mm-hmm was that the president trump demanded that the cranium officials investigate the issue of the Democratic National Committee Server and and and what in the Asian That had nothing to do with the attack on nine eleven my I just wondered more lives and and more this discount cross my mind but I think this may be one of they sold authority to conduct our diplomatic affairs and it gives him the responsibility to see that the laws are faithfully executed so he's got every responsibility and sedation while he was a candidate on the basis of false opposition research commissioned by the Clinton Campaign so I think the relevant question is is whether there was probable cause new administration elected in the Ukraine unders Alinsky specifically to drain their swamp too also obviously but you know I said at the time if Congress can't you know what they did instead of a declaration or was a authorization for the use of it to go after corruption in within their government so as this new administration is coming in I think the president has every right and reason auction investigation with respect to the trump investigation is beginning to appear there wasn't we're GONNA a lot more about the follow up investigations when the Horowitz I've not actually seen his entire press conference remarks yet so I can't comment directly on that but I I can't say that I think the constitution gives the prison Gatien's involving a officials of our country as well as a they are to to investigate corruption involving officials of theirs before he releases hundreds of millions of dollars Taxpayer Money Syndrome investigations are complete time will tell now the reason I want to ask you about this is you you've long developed a reputation as a fiscal hawk you ah involving these charges so certainly not basis a lot more is that unfolds but don't forget you have a ham handed a lot of the things that he does he is not a skilled diplomat but he has every right every responsibility in every reason to assure that we're not skies themselves as American citizens and interfere with the debate going on on the Internet on on the campaign were you crying was not behind way actually as you know there are very active investigations a by John Durham and US attorney attention we know there was no collusion with the trump campaign but we're still total the Russians were interfering with the campaign which is the basis of that there are several evidence that comes out the more I'm starting to question that for example of what what are the pillars of the of the Russian interview due to to to make sure that they are committed to to cooperating with us in in corruption George's in federal court and several months ago went to the court and said Hey they've not actually we have no connection with the Russian government these oh you're all you watch every dollar where the federal tax dollars taxpayer dollars go so how is it appropriate for trump to hold up aid four eighty related that these firms are tied to the Russian government and most team said that we have no such evidence we're not making that charge she says we certainly are publicly it also said that's why we held up the money later yesterday also he walked that back do you have a problem with what movie said there initially hundreds of millions of dollars more into a government that simply continuing the corruption of the previous and so I think the questions were appropriate even if they were cringe-worthy welcome to it's all political the San Francisco Chronicle's political podcast. I'm Joe Air Foley the chronicle senior political writer and today in the podcast we are talking to one of these this was what Muller's team charge but those Russian trolling firms are currently fighting charges the Russian government was involved in these Russian trolling firms were involved so that falls away what are the other basis of the charges not and that's prejudicial to our case they went to the judge a judge says you're right that's prejudicial called in Muller's team and said I wanna see the evidence that you have accused to that government I don't again I realize that that the president is is certainly Charges one that the Russian government used a basically was doing internet trolling to acid he's an American intelligence acid and this information appears to have been funnelled from American intelligence agencies through Mifsud to Popadopoulos and then used as as one of the base he's for this charge so as as more and more evidence comes to the surface I'm beginning to question the very foundation of that charge that George Popadopoulos was told by a Russian agent Joseph nipped suit of that the Russian government and was the very next day and she says and I'm prepared to hold you in criminal contempt for doing this very next day and while we're holds this press conference and makes a sharp distinction between the way they were worded and you you do believe that the the Russians interfere in the two thousand sixteen election correct well I used to and the more we're we're a private company apparently it was trying to make money off the American election and yet muller and his team keeps saying that we're controlled by the Russian government is intervening in the election Russian Mississippi being identified the by the molar team as a Russian intelligence acid turns out it's not a Russian intelligence did most intelligence agency said there's a strong possibility probability that the Russians did interfered should Americans trust the intelligence I think I'm starting to question the degree to which they had become politicized and whether they're trustworthy don't forget it was the same also invoke a great number of procedural safeguards due process the right to confront your at hi I'm Greg Thomas host of the wild West podcast want to know what's going on with the world's top adventures wild west welcome back let's get back to my conversation with Congressman Tom McClintock have the houseboat on those eighteen words and then go at it. Why won't you do that what's the value and in official authority can delegate that authority to a committee and it's not done so so and by the way those rules those rules us of has to have a formal vote to initiate such investigation particularly with respect to the the Nixon and Clinton investigation I got wild west where I recently chatted with photographer Chris Burkhard who spends his life traveling to the most remote corners of the world some ways I always feel like I'm just pulled the wool over everybody's eyes did you the impeachment process has to set those principles in motion in order for it to be legitimate one more thing about choose the right to call witnesses the right to cross examine witnesses these are all fundamentals of due process and recently you you you've said very colorfully that you would like the Democrats to vote on putting put to full vote of the House on whether there should be a an an official impeachment inquiry in fact you said in fact I I dare you to do it I in fact I double dog dare you ready to conduct an inquiry into the impeachment of the president it's that simple I dare you to do it back I double dog dare you to do it? The Constitution doesn't require it though the constitution gives to the House of Representatives the sole power of impeachment house rules are the Knicks Clinton investigation being based upon the rules of the Nixon investigation of required that so that the house which holds that Seoul constitutes island on the subject and therefore we are governed by the president of the House and the president of the House going back to the Andrew Johnson impeachment eighteen sixty eight is that how they do it in a little clip of that if the majority wants to exercise the house's power of impeachment all you've got to do is ask the house to do so when you when you lend power to your government you ought to take your to watch it like a hawk you're listening to my conversation with Congressman Tom McClintock we'll have more after the break he's told Mike I'm not a good photographer by any means I've just been the person willing to go to these places you'll find my conversations with Chris and many more right adventures wherever you get your podcasts look that way but you should Americans trust them I mean do do you still have to be honest I don't think Americans ought to trust any concentration of power of even greater concern a to the intervention foreign governments in our election is the intervention of our own government in the election the next year's election do what concerns you have about foreign interests hacking next year's election do you have the full confidence levels of our intelligence and a justice department agencies we're involved in in taking what they knew was fraudulent having a full House vote on impeachment inquiry isn't that would that would do for you it's required to begin with that this will be a a free and fair election I don't know yes I am concerned about it Al- although I is I want to do how do you want them to handle you know the situation there and now what do you want from them well for first and foremost don't make the situation I said I'm becoming very skeptical over a lot of the hyperbole we see about Russian involving twenty sixteen election that should always be a concern but I think are not caused by power line ignitions caused by any number of other factors Aaron campfires of chains dragging on on on roads has no it's it's a massive district very rural district here in California You saw what happened recently with the blackouts in northern California. What do you doc call it? The the insurance policy to undermine and to obstruct the legitimately elected President United States those are very great concern Auburn they were knocked off the air for two days because of these blackouts had there been a fire caused by ninety percent of the other causes of fires there's more evidence comes forward and again a lot more when the Horowitz and and Durham reports are released is becoming clear that the highest allers of economic losses and create a hazardous conditions that could cost lives were example I was talking to Kate Hi radio in my did even if the ignition is no fault of their own a dead federal tree falls on a power line that's going to cause a fire that's not PG to to interfere in the two thousand sixteen presidential election when they failed to turn that election they then use that as as strong lightning strikes only about ten percent of our water fires are actually caused by a power lining nation but do massive deadly fires recently to do is ask the House that had direct authorizes committee to conduct an impeachment inquiry that's all you have to do resolve that authorizes the judiciary fire not to mention drought in the forty five years where these laws impeded our ability to manage our forest we've watched become morbidly a federal lands over the past thirty years and we've seen concomitant increase in acreage destroyed by fire and then third is that they were between a rock and a hard place because very bad public policies among them state liability laws that hold them strictly liable for damages worse and I think that's what they did was a bad decision by PG and he that was that we do have to recognize what was driven by very bad public policy the bad decision was loop to neglect for these past forty five years since we began imposing environmental laws that have made the management of our forests all but impossible we used to me of anybody to trying to get information from that Station of course would not be able to do so they wouldn't have power in their homes and the station would have been knocked off the air anyway trying to coordinate emergency response go they balanced that possibility against the absolute certainty that the deliberate act by that company would cause millions of dollars last year we're up to two million acres so what's happened is over the past several decades we've stopped actively managing our forest and they there's management practices

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STEMinists:  Barbara McClintock

Encyclopedia Womannica

05:50 min | Last week

STEMinists: Barbara McClintock

"Hello from wonder media network. I'm jenny kaplan and this is encyclopedia. Manteca even before the discovery of dna importance officially hit the history books. Today's stephanus was making key genetic discoveries in spite of the societal restrictions on her gender. Let's talk about barbara mcclintock. Barbara was born on june sixteenth. Nineteen o two in hartford connecticut in nineteen. Oh eight. Her family moved to brooklyn where barbara attended erasmus high school. Barbara's father was a physician and barbara grew up with a keen interest. In science and research while most family was of her interests likely due to a combination of gender norms and financial restrictions. Her father supported barbara scientific pursuits after graduating high school in nineteen nineteen barbara. Start studying at cornell's college of agriculture by nineteen twenty seven. She earned her bachelor's master's and doctorate in botany women weren't allowed to study genetics at cornell at the time but barbara got as close as she could by studying the genetics of corn on a cellular level through that work. She became a pioneer in the field of cytogenetics or the study of chromosomes. In fact she had such an impact that calling her. A pioneer feels like an understatement in a nineteen thirty one paper published in partnership with another woman colleague. Barbara proved for the first time. That chromosomes are the basis of genetics throughout the nineteen thirties barbara fellowships for multiple prestigious institutions including the national research council and the guggenheim foundation. She performed genetic research at cornell. The california institute of technology and other universities barbara attempted to work at kornel her alma mater but the institution refused to hire a female professor so in nineteen thirty. Six barbara started working as an assistant professor at the university of missouri but after a few years of working there she hit another roadblock realized. The university would likely not grant her tenure. She was forced to move on from academia by nineteen forty. One barbara had a new job conducting research on long island at the carnegie institute of washington's department of genetics but was supposed to be a one year research position turned into a lifetime gig throughout barbara's career. She focused on the genetics of corn. And what causes the mutations and appearance that make indian corn have multiple colored kernels. This may seem innocuous but the pursuit of these answers led to key findings that apply to all jeans. Barbara bread generation after generation of indian corn an isolated the two genes or controlling elements that influence the other genes responsible for pigmentation in the process of this discovery. She found what are now called mobile genetic elements or jumping genes. These are genetic sequences that can move around a genome from generation to generation making neighboring genes. Behave differently jumping. Genes occur almost all living things. And they're one of the most important causes of genetic mutations even in humans though. Barbara's key discoveries earned her the position of vice president of the genetics society of america in nineteen thirty nine and president of the genetics society in one thousand nine forty four. The gravity of her work didn't sink in for some time. The paper she published were often ridiculed or outright ignored. She eventually stopped publishing papers and giving lectures as a result of the harsh criticism still ever stopped conducting research and she shared her results with a small group of colleagues in nineteen fifty seven the national science foundation and the rockefeller foundation funded. Barbara's research abroad or she study different varieties of corn and south and central america. She traveled throughout the region mentoring young college students and scientists along the way in the nineteen seventies. Biologists began to confirm. Barbara's research which at one time had been considered radical. When the scientific community realized barbara had been right all along she received multiple awards including the nineteen eighty three nobel prize for physiology or medicine. She was the first woman to be the sole recipient of the award in that category. She was eighty one years old. Barbara mcclintock passed away on september. Second nineteen ninety two at the age of ninety like many women conducting key research in the twentieth century barbara. It didn't receive the recognition. She deserved right away. Nevertheless her personal curiosity and love for science kept her going for decades of groundbreaking work and she lived to see the record of history at st month. Were talking about stem inists for more on. Why we're doing what we're doing check out our newsletter woman weekly follow encyclopedia manica on facebook instagram at encyclopedia manica. And you can find me on. Twitter at jenny kaplan special. Thanks to lose kaplan my favorite sister and co-creator talk to you tomorrow. I'm amanda lippman. I run an organization called run for something i wrote a book called run for something and i host. This show also called run for something. My mission is simple. Find people who care about solving problems and help them run for office every tuesday. I'll talk with amazing and incredible candidates and elected officials who are already making a difference there in local offices that might seem small and not so sexy but are actually hugely important for your day to day life fixing our broken system. We'll take all of us and people like you. Listen in every tuesday wherever you get your podcasts.

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Proposed Legislation Offers Citizenship To Immigrants Who Can Play Piano So Good It Makes Everyone Cry

The Topical

08:05 min | 3 months ago

Proposed Legislation Offers Citizenship To Immigrants Who Can Play Piano So Good It Makes Everyone Cry

"A new bill in Congress will open up our borders to where the applicants plus we hear from a scientist in a tiny Alaskan town trying to freeze the corona virus in a block of ice from the onion and onion public radio I'm Leslie Price, and this is the topical. We'll be back in a moment because our advertisers demand time and They deserve to back with more right after the. Well. After weeks of intense negotiations, Congress might finally have a bill they can agree on to overhaul the nation's broken immigration system after making major concessions on both sides. The House Judiciary Committee proposed bold new legislation that would offer citizenship to immigrants who can play the piano so good it makes everyone cry opr immigration correspondent Marcy Hammond joins us now with more mercy. Tell us about this. Bill, thank you Leslie. The new immigration rule would allow any citizen of a foreign nation who wishes to immigrate to the US to apply for merit based visa as long as they're piano playing good enough to make people weep as the power of music washes over their soul and cleanses their mind. I. Sat down with California Representative Tom McClintock co-sponsor on the bill who explained the details. Who can sit down? Stein. Way Piano close their eyes and play a haunting solo that causes you to consider. Love is tangible in the world and say, well, this guy can really play is eligible for this visa whether it's show pens nocturnally flat major or lists Lebensraum number three as long as it's played with silent passion that resonates through the notes and moves the consular official in the visa interviewed a tears they'll have a path to citizenship and can you tell me which countries qualify every country of course it? Helps to have a sad back story having to sell your hair to get money for piano lessons blind prodigy who feels their way across the keys that will help certainly, but it's not necessary. You just have to play the shit out of that piano to the point where all the counselor officials, the security guard, and whoever else may be in the room can do is sit there frozen in time the. Power. Of Music surging to their heart as tears stream down their face. The applicant could be young virtuoso or an old one armed woman who doesn't speak English and need government assistance for the rest of her life. But if she can melt the hardest of hearts, she'll be welcomed into America with open arms. ooh getting chills just thinking about some foreign kid playing the Largo. From Beethoven's Piano Concerto NC minor know Marcy. What if an applicant plays the piano superbly, but fails to make anyone tear out while representative McClintock said that unfortunately Congress has to draw the line somewhere. Look there was this young lady from Honduras just an absolute savant on the keys who came in playing ragtime and you know as Jaunty is that is we're not looking for. Pick up so much as we are foreign born pianists who makes us feel the weight of the human experience. So she was deported rights. I'm not sure of Jangly syncopation fulfills a need in the American economy still though the restrictions seemed to be quite limited Democrat thought so too. That's why they fought to include undocumented immigrants in the country anyone who is hiding out in. The shadows of ice with that kind of rare talent, not only eligible but encouraged to apply, and the hope is that the policy will be opened up to a diverse group of instruments. Here's representative. McClintock again, news played on violins, Cellos, trumpets, flutes, all of these are eligible to apply some of the white are your instruments, pick lows, oboe trombones the answer isn't an outright. No. Be, tough, to convince the Immigration Board that the case of sound don't even stuck on classical music if you're a moving song about your wife who died in the war started by American funded forces over natural resources and played it on say the heart with poise stunning technique almost unbearable sense of poignancy that puts a lump in our throat. Welcome to America mercy the two parties. have been in odds over immigration for a long time but this bill seems to be bipartisan. How were they able to reach an agreement with such animosity between the two sides? Well, the bill gained support from both sides of the aisle during a recent house immigration and Citizenship Subcommittee Meeting were a twenty two year old Ghanaian Piano Prodigy Kofi. Dentsu gave testimony we have a clip. A. I that was exquisite tissue. Thank you members of the House and Senate who were present in the capital were drawn into the room and transpired the music and we're left breathless by the end representative. mclintock's says the bill is expected to pass through Congress and that they're currently looking for a soloist willing to play fanny Mendelssohn Sonatas, see minor from memory until the Senate to was moved to tears in the meantime leadership in both parties have expressed support for further proposals to grant permanent citizenship to any immigrants who can make those steamed pork on things that are so good. You can't stop eating them. Oh. Well. I can't wait for them to get here because I. Love those little things. Thanks, Marcy. That's OPR's Marcy Hammond who will also be joining us later this week to take an inside look at the migrate detainment centers that are bursting at the seams with untalented people and how we can get them all just disappear something back with more right after this. Give me your tired your poor your unsubstantiated reports with unverified sources yearning to be read for here at the Topical News. Welcome. Especially when it's a story about someone who is dead, here's what else you need to know today. The United States Post Office continues to struggle financially announcing today they may be forced to cut down there singing telegram service to just two days a week USPS officials additionally noted that they would no longer be able to offer Marianne. Cappella. With the pair down service and that all singing telegrams would now be delivered by your usual mail carrier and an alarming new report out today has scientists concerned about beloved. The nation's top entomologists to found that firefly populations are being severely threatened by invasive and predatory wide eyed mid western children like to frolic through fields with Mason Jars. Someone's got to figure out a way to take those kids out before it's too late. And finally, some helpful news to combat are collectively declining mental health a new study today as found that repeatedly bashing your head against a wall and repeating stupid stupid stupid is the best way to reduce anxiety here. Try It with me. Stupid. Stupid Stupid. What's the matter with you? Why did you ask Marcie although stupid questions she hates you can't do anything right everyone notices and that's why they can't stand you your attic and you will never be normal. Maybe. I'm just not doing it right well, at least drinking myself to sleep hasn't failed me yet. Just going to keep doing that. And that's it. For the topical today. I'm Lesley Brice the news doesn't stop just because you've lost interest in it. So why not regain that childlike sense of rage and despair by visiting the onion dot com for more on all the day's top stories then don't forget to tune into tomorrow's episode where we'll sit down with a free speech advocate who says he's the only one with the courage to stand up to the rich and powerful and tell them that they're right about everything just as the First Amendment intended my good man, you won't want to miss it.

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When Is Paranoia Normal, and When Is It a Problem?

BrainStuff

09:46 min | 3 weeks ago

When Is Paranoia Normal, and When Is It a Problem?

"This episode is brought to you by ibm today. Answers matter more than ever before. That's why ibm is helping. Businesses manage customer. Questions with watson assistant. It's conversational a i designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm dot com slash watson. Assistant welcome to brainstorm a production of iheart radio. Hey bring stuff lauren. Vogel bomb here paranoid. It's a word that's perhaps made more headlines in two thousand twenty than any other year from nbc news headline how to tell if the covid nineteen pandemic made you paranoid or just appropriately cautious to yale newses. Unexpected uncertainty can breed paranoia researchers. Find paranoia is having a moment but what is paranoia and in a world currently consumed by global pandemic and political pandemonium. What's the difference between appropriate scepticism suspicion and irrational delusions. We spoke with clinical psychologist tamara. Mcclintock greenberg she said. Paranoia is an interesting concept both in terms of how it's made its way into the lexicon of current language and the meaning clinically and the meeting has changed a lot over time. Paranoia is generally defined as thought process characterized by irrational suspicion or mistrust of others. There's a wide range of ways. Paranoia can show up but people who experience it may feel like others are out to get them or they may perceive that their endanger even though there's no clear threat. There are a lot of reasons why people can experience paranoia. It's a common symptom of mental disorders like dementia and drug misuse. But not every case of paranoia is clinical or even cause for alarm. Many people experience mild paranoia in their lives. Greenberg said freud. Initially thought of paranoia as a defense in which unwanted thoughts were managed by projection the classic example of this is related to aggression and angrier out to get anyone but others are angry and out to get me when we describe something as a defense. We typically mean this something. We can all be capable of under certain stressful situations for example. Think of the last time you were really sleep deprived or even sick with a bad cold or flu and then something stressful happens at work. Any of us on conditions could misconstrue and become overly wary about something innocent like a remark made by a friend or something boss said while just about everyone. Experiences paranoid thoughts at some point in their lives. Paranoia that is problematic typically involves a high amount of stress or anxiety related to beliefs about others a general mistrust of others and feeling misunderstood victimized and or persecuted. Greenberg said the primary symptom of paranoia. That can be part of someone's personality is distressed or excessive interpersonal sensitivity to others. But to be clear they may or may not use projection as a primary defense and this is one way or understanding of paranoia has shifted. Some people just tend to have more suspicious personality style and as you can imagine there are people who function like this everywhere and it may not be an issue for them. Greenberg explained that people who tend to be more guarded can function just fine with a more cautious attitude particularly if they're able to find careers relationships that allow them to be who they are without judgement. She said for example if someone has a more guarded personality style. They probably won't do well in a career in which they have to deal with a lot of people. I recall one person. I knew who was paranoid. Not psychotic but just a suspicious person and they worked in sales. This was tough as they were always worried. Their clients were complaining about them when it comes to personal relationships more wary. People tend to either isolate or gravitate toward people who don't demand to much of them inter. Speaking isolating isn't necessarily an issue if it doesn't negatively impact a person's quality of life and being drawn to certain personalities isn't necessarily problematic either but it can be greenberg said for example guard. Person would not do well with a bff that needs to talk every day but they can have gratifying relationships. People as long as they don't feel to put upon or that they need to always be present for others in their lives. Social connection is important for everyone to some extent but that contacts can look different for every person. Greenberg explains that someone with a more suspicious character may choose to have fewer friends indoor choose not to have a partner though. She does point out that there are plenty of other reasons. People choose to remain single and that this in itself should not be pathologist. More cautious people may tend to space out their social interactions to stay comfortable Once a month dinner may be way more preferable than daily check ins and long drawn out but okay so when is paranoia a problem being careful in guarded as one thing but when paranoia becomes pervasive and makes life difficult. It's something very different. Greenberg said people who have a more suspicious personality style are likely aware on some level that they are more guarded than others. People are paranoid and psychotic have much more trouble being aware of the fact that they see things differently than others. The classic example is someone who really believes. They're being followed by the fbi. There's no convincing them. That this is not the case to be clear though it's easy to minimize the distress of people in these situations. They are often very distressed anxious and endure a great deal of suffering. Paranoia of this kind can occur in schizophrenia and delusional disorders paranoid delusions can also occur in some neurological disorders. Such as in some dementieva's sadly paranoid delusions can severely disrupt life and functioning paranoid personality. Disorder or p. D. is one example of intense paranoia. That is no longer just a personality. Facet but something serious. Paranoia is the essential characteristic that people with ppd. i'll have in common but the beliefs that they hold aren't just run of the mill. Cautionary ways of thinking and people with pd often have unfounded beliefs and ten to blame and distrust others in ways that quote interfere with their ability to form close or even workable relationships. The disorder usually begins in childhood or early adolescence and seems to be more common in men than in women. According to the cleveland clinic. Ppd effects between two point three percent and four point four percent of the general population unfortunately clinical paranoid is tough to diagnosed until the symptoms progress from mild to severe and because ppd often co occurs with another mental health problem like an anxiety. Disorder says a pulse of disorder and depression. It can often be mistaken for something else. Treatment can be challenging as well greenberg said if someone is paranoid and severely mentally ill. It can be hard to get help as the person will tend not to trust doctors worry. That medication may be harmful and they made come across is angry toward others. They may not even feel angry but when someone is really paranoid there are so many things in the environment they have to keep track of and this makes interactions with others difficult. A for example. It's hard to have a conversation if you're wondering what someone might try to do to you if you're being watched or followed or even what a slight change of expression on someone else's face might mean awhile. Ppd is fairly uncommon occasional. Paranoid thoughts. Aren't all that rare. One survey found that eighteen point six percent of participants reported feeling that people against them another survey of more than eight thousand. Five hundred adults found that one percent of people thought that there have been times when others were acting against them and get another survey found that nearly eleven percent but that other people were following or spying on them. However if you or a loved one seems to be experiencing paranoid thoughts that despite everyday life there are lots of ways to get. Help affordably if you have a trusted primary care doctor or other health professional already talked to them about how you can connect with a mental health service provider. 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At least on the john and ken show yesterday many listeners scrambling to find or replay or pass on his five minute speech on the floor of the house of representatives where he was talking about gavin newsom french laundry restaurant dinner but only as tom mcclintock can do he baffled. Some people to well. There's a lot of people who Only process things literally that he was in support of gavin newsom because he adds gavin newsom right thing. He's going out and enjoying himself. Which is what we all should be doing. And he said the same thing but these california who went to bali. of course. that's what you should be doing. It's all about making choices for yourself not having government dictate your life. We'll talk to tom about all that. He's going to be catching a plane. I think to spend the. I forgot to ask about the should ask them about the people. You're gonna have thanksgiving with tom. Larger catholic one hundred people. We're gonna be inside. You know. Steve gregory's here because this this confusing stay at home order It is really funny. It is funny. And you've got the county. Yeah they don't even agree on the same and i. I don't know what what is happening at nine thirty because they decided everybody's gotta go home at ten as as if the virus is hiding somewhere under manhole covers and then exactly at the stroke of ten when the church bells go. Dong dong here comes the virus roaring out from the underground well instead of last call for alcohol. Like you're used to you. Just get your last call for bite your last. Yeah you've got fifteen minutes to scarf down your food They want doors to close at ten. They want everything to be closed at ten there's no rhyme or reason to it. According to some people just had to pick a time whereas science. Though if i hear one of these guys i swear to god close to getting violent talk about science. A data without producing any or their policy is against any signs or data. That's publicly known. Honest to god i want. I'm crazy. I can't i can't take it anymore. So yesterday on the mark galli call from the state health and human services presser that that question had been asked to him as well worth the science that supports you wanting to shut things down from ten pm to six. Am now that that's five am. Excuse me that's the state order that starts tomorrow. The county order tonight starts from ten pm to six. Am since the state can override since state rules. Override the county then it will revert to ten. Am to five am starting tomorrow. So if that makes i c- one hour. Differential barbara ferrer thinks there's an extra special virus danger between five. Am and six am now. You can't even make an alcohol argument at five. Am well sure. Cook presumably early breakfasts getting eggs. Leti mary's and tequila sunrise. All i can tell you is that The markelle marquel yesterday. Said this. And i'm paraphrasing now. But he said basically. Most irresponsible behaviour happens between the hours of ten pm and five am and we. We noted that in the released when we got it yesterday when they're basing all they're they're basing all their decisions on the fact that people lose their inhibitions when they drank. Most of the drinking happens after ten. Isn't it likely though that it's not it's irresponsible people sure and people who want to engage in that kind of behavior are just going to adjust their clocks like for daylight saving and you just. Hey let's go out to dinner at six and get. Let's get loaded by ten right instead of going from eight to midnight. It's it's an easy workaround. Where where do you think i. I shouldn't see. I mean happy hours are usually what five to seven you would know. I know i am telling you. Happy hour certificate. Based you're reporting my my empirical data right for for that two hours drinks are half price usually. Yeah so now. I wanna consume three times the amount of alcohol from five to seven. At least now we're getting somewhere. There's some logic people drink more between five and seven because it's cheaper right. They don't drink between five and six. Am but here's the thing so people my age drink five to seven right but they're worried about is at eighteen to twenty nine. Yeah that drink after ten. They're the ones that are doing. According to both rare and galley that's age category with the highest spike. But that's the bar time right. Not and and the survival rate among that age group is about one hundred percent. So yesterday. I if i had gotten in on the call yesterday too because apparently have been blackballed by the state as well because he didn't take anybody from la yesterday except the la times. And that's always a that's always a gimme but no one's talking about death. Numbers numbers have not moved. They've not they've not The dial at all it's cases that continue to skyrocket saying there's a leg vast numbers are dancer carving cases cases involving people who are not going to die right but we keep going in the circle. But they're worried about those people giving it to people like you and i. That's what they're worried about. They're not worried about them. Getting sick necessarily worried about spreader. You're not going to change these. These people's behaviors. They're just going to adjust their drinking times or take it home. So this makes no sense. And they're ballyhooing this like this is a real big deal. All you're doing is putting out all night. Eateries at a business. That's all you're doing. Yeah so at three. And i keep reading steve. The big problem for the restaurants beyond this time thing is that the fifty percent cutback outdoor dining. They gotta can. We have half capacity. Whatever that is. Although i was talking about this today. I'm like well. Let's just make it a bigger capacity and say it was one hundred so we were fifty even. If so let me tell you let me tell you. I've talked to two restaurant owners in the last twenty four hours and i'm going to tell you there is a work around but i'm not gonna say it on the air because i don't want to put people's livelihoods in jeopardy all right so i will tell you off the air tell you the work around to bid. We may have restaurant. Owners listing. who would ride. They can email me directly they emails online. And i'm happy to share the work around with you. That i am not friend of the business and i'm telling you i work. I mean i have been going to all these montpe- restaurants for years. And i have favorites and i've been going to new ones because i know you always took pictures. I know you hate that. John said I firmly believe in that supporting the local businesses. Especially on that. Stretch of. I eat mostly and i just like supporting those businesses under the nicest people put their life savings in the stuff. I'm talking Bart avery from bravery brewing up link. He just sent me a picture of his outdoor samson. He had to spend another six thousand dollars on tents and now they're going to have to close out heaters now too because of the cold wedding and he had. This special seats had to spa buys. No no no see got to stop. This is ridiculous when they take over like the street parking area. They have to pay for that. Someone told me they do. They have to pay the city that they if they take over the street. Parking area there. You know that's a great question. And i'm writing it down because i do not know the answer to that because i heard an -rageous about for this particular area where they took over so they have to rent space based losing revenue from taking right and i knew that because i knew there was a waiver there because they had the special food pickup zones and i know that they were putting those on the meters where people could park for free while they pick up their food. Losing the right but this is taking it all -pletely winning dining table here. Here's a great one for you. Now talk about losing revenue some talking to this man jim who's listener since me some Documents his businesses in santa monica. He gets a tax bill from the city of los angeles for four hundred and something thousand dollars. What and they want payment immediately because the guys like my businesses in santa monica. Why are you sending me a bill from the just about a tackle. What's the reason they don't get an answer that's why he reached out to me. Can't get an answer. The city of los angeles is building people in other cities for tax and he sent me the documents. I looked at the documentation on the city of la broke so people will pay sending out to people in other cities a bunch of boobs. So we'll follow up on that rally now know that we'd love to do a story and that i'm trying to get the california restaurant association. 'cause i'm hearing rumors that there's gonna be class action suit filed. Oh my god they've got to. This is life or death right back all right. Well enjoy happy hour steve. Interestingly my happy hour starts across the hall about ten minutes wonderful do some investigative reporting hits right. Gary and shannon. Happy hour is open. Now i might join you. You buy right. That morton's closed downstairs right. Yeah i know. I check today. They didn't do any outdoor dining ever. I don't think no no. I thought maybe they'd build out on. The patio did they. Did they have have they have their last week. Have you seen the restaurant knows everything. Yeah no they. It's out there. They they have to take all this stuff in In fact they. I guess they do just for general because dinner. Yeah because you know someone did lease out the space. There is going to be another restaurant moving in right there next door. Oh yeah that network. Last last one dunk when they all did have all done. So anyway there. The mortons is open down there where spurred speaking posting food this one over here. Yeah hosted her vegan. Dinner online yesterday. Vegetables does this. I did post dinner. My husband made me the stir fry vegetable dish and he sent me a picture of it while i was on the air yesterday broccoli. Yes squash and asparagus. Nobody and then he mixed in some rice So we're kind of sauce. Did he use just a little song. Upper paprika and blocking you okay. Jon offended can post match. Who edged reported you. Betcha get a warning label on your next post. We got more coming up. John and ken. Kfi john and ken show john kobylt. Ken chiampou kfi am six. Forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. We'll be talking to congressman. Tom mcclintock next hour. Of course a lot of people wanted to replay and get a hold of his speech. We are putting on the website link. Is they share it with people. He talked about gavin newsom french laundry dinner and actually applauded supported. But only if. Tom can explain it so we'll talk to him about you. Should you should listen to the speech. via the link or on the podcast we ran in about About two fifty and five thirty five thirty five last night so listen to it and then three o'clock. We're going to have him on to talk about it now. We talk about this next part from time to time. But it's been a while and we should spend five more minutes on it because if again battling corona virus and getting people to stay in their homes and locking down in crunching. The economy is to save lives. Well what about lives are being lost. Because of things like drug use during the lockdowns and as the san jose. Mercury news. two story this week. Domestic violence is at record levels in the state prosecutor's up and down california say they're seeing a definite increase in domestic violence during the pandemic. They did this news conference federal and state prosecutors from cities all over the state came together to share their news of domestic violence trends up and down the state. Because when you lock people down like this and a lot of them are losing their jobs and then it's tough to even get through the employment development department to get their unemployment benefits. That's going to cause a lot of tension in household people start. Drinking people start arguing. Money is the number one reason people divorce right and that number one thing that people fight about even if they stay together money. And so you've you've cut off you. Had you had this idiot. Child dictator cut off people's money and not send out the unemployment checks and now this has been going on what eight months i cannot imagine why in god's name the public is putting up with this. He threw millions i. There's millions of people out of work because of him and he has millions of unemployment checks not delivered. That should be a criminal offense. How do you do that in good conscience. You know what. I read today joel. Kotkin got another great article in city journal and he says our unemployment rate is among the worst in the nation. It's sixteen percent is the unemployment rate. You always hear it often flirted. You always hear this proud about the fifth largest economy. That is heavily overweighted in tech. Our job situation is among the worst in the nation. Right now and it's entirely created by devin newsom. I'm that you can't even say it's the government can't even say it's the democrats it is gavin. Newsom has these dictatorial powers of shutting down so much and our and our infection rate is relatively low are death rate is relatively low and we have the the worst economy in the nation. But it's all covered up by because of all the means at facebook and google and apple and net flicks. That's kind of economy five companies. If you can't work from home you may have lost your job or seen it cut-back because the business just can't operate. I mean think about that. Even people who do work in quote essential jobs like the restaurants but they have a lot less business. They don't need as many people anymore. They cut back and this story. I'm domestic violence. It's because a lot of these centers were victims. Go to get help. They can't see people in person so it says a lot of these. They're mostly women are just staying. In the homes with their abusers and also child abuse reports are up the prosecutors in ventura county said that they have seen a huge uptick in the number of reported domestic violence cases. I mean all of the things that are the fallout from. This lockdown. never really talked about much now. Because didn't nobody in the media cares all they do because that's not going to sell papers. What's so don't papers. It's not going to get website. It's that's not going to get viewers what gets viewers is virus. Panic virus port sell papers is like saying listening to the record player. I know i had my biden moment there by the way he's seventy eight today. Happy br seven. Young joe by i'm trying to we're trying to find a piece of audio. That heard today this morning. One of those yippie reporters at his press conference yesterday was asking. Well what do you. What would you tell newly arrived. Immigrants who are leaving the chaotic countries. When they see what's going on with this transition what would you tell and biden lin. Went dead for about like three. Four five seconds stopped. He had nothing locked up and nobody said a word and then he finally got going a little bit and he made no sense ohio. We should get that. I just want correct. The statistic we account for sixteen and a half percent of all unemployment in the country are rate is eleven percent. The national average is eight. We are forty fifth. Forty fifth generally about twelve percent of the us population. Yeah and we're sixteen percent of all unemployment where we're about thirty percent higher than any other state and there's only four states worse and worse shape than we are with unemployment so the economy has been crushed newsom. His crushed the economy singlehandedly. I never knew that one man could have that power but he does. And we've got forty million people standing around and watching him. Destroy the economy meantime. He's enjoying a three hundred and fifty dollar meal plus wine when we come back. Well speaking to the unemployed toy california's worst agency the employment development department. Another great story or they can't seem to get to the money that people that need it deserve it and are eligible for it. They're handing out money to children like a one year old here. This story coming up next. John and ken. Kfi john and ken show john kobylt. Ken chiampou kfi am six forty five everywhere on the iheartradio app. We have located the audio of joe. Biden's brain failure yesterday to press conference. He did when a reporter asking him. What would new immigrants think of the transition and Things went silent for a bit too at home. You may want to count the number of seconds that joe's brain goes into remission. So roll the americans especially immigrant americans who came to the united states looking for political stability and seeing all the things that the president is doing. Hang on. i'm on my way. That's what i say. Not a joke with the president's doing now is is really is going to the another as be one of the most irresponsible presidents in american history. It's just not even within the norm at all. That was interesting. Couldn't find the word any word with all the words out there outrageous unprecedented my favorite constitutional crisis. Take your pick all those outrage words. While nothing came up dry three off. I thought it was at the beginning but it was really a little later. Came up right away pretty much in said hang on. I'm coming and then lost it. Yeah it again played. I just love this. And what are you settle. Americans especially immigrant americans who came to the united states looking for political stability and seeing all the things that the president is doing. hang on. i'm on my way. That's what i say. Not a joke with the president's doing now is is really is going to allow alot the other as being the most irresponsible presidents in american history. It's it's is just out of not even within the norm at all. I don't know he's a great order is happy seventieth birthday today you see. He's not going to do a lot press conferences. he can't take questions from people and be spontaneous. You could see right froze hang on. I'm on my way way out. Wow imagine two years from now joba. Seventy eight and seventy eight pretty much like eighty eight. Hang on i'm on my way. What play this report now. The unim- unemployment office for california's got a dopey name but it's called. Add employment development department is because everybody wants to spend the language to make you think it's something else now we started with of course the pandemic lockdown and the reports of people looking for unemployment benefits. Who could not do anything online and could not get through the call centers. They could not get the money. They're entitled to that. Was the first problem then. It moved over to fraudsters. Fraudsters were accessing apparently people's personal identities statistics data and using it along with the dresses of homes where they went and grabbed the males. They could get the debit cards and they defraud the system and then the last chapter we covered people who are eligible for unemployment cut. Their debit cards only does seem the debit cards drained by in the bank of america their money taken away because of possible fraud. The latest chapter is probably the most ridiculous in kind of funny here. Cbs twos david goldstein. Whoever filed claims on behalf of the miners say they work in the entertainment industry and are now laid off because of covert but our investigation of internal unemployment files found that for some that may not be the case this fresno girl whose name were not revealing was born in november of last year. She just celebrated her one year birthday and is collecting one hundred and sixty seven dollars a week in unemployment benefits. The claim says she's an unemployed actor. This sacramento girl was born in two thousand eight twelve years old. According to her unemployment claim whoever filed for her says she made forty thousand dollars in income last year as a fashion model for this nine year. Old sacramento boy also lists fashion model with an income of thirty three thousand dollars boat. The twelve year old and the nine year old have different last names. But list the same address that we traced to this mailbox store and sacramento. We found nearly a dozen questionable unemployment claims for miners saying they're actors or models sources say many of the claims have been red flagged but only after benefits were paid for months. We can't say if all these claims are fraudulent but we found that none of the miners have an entertainment work permit that's required for people under eighteen. Who work as an actor. A model in california. Does this seem like another unemployment fraud scam to you. Yes it does bill. Cressey is a professor at governor state university in chicago known as professor fraud. He says it's sometimes easier for scammers to use the identities of children. They have a clean record which is one of the reasons why children are very often the best victims of identity theft. They have clean records. We wanted to know what the is doing to check on minors. And see if they're permit to work in a statement the as there are many children actors in california. It's customary to see wages and or residuals payment is not contingent on a work permit. That likely means they never made a simple check do you think. Add should've checked. That would be a great idea i think. Edd's should be checking. Every claim file just state senator melissa melendez of riverside has been a critic of add. Edt has to have a way to identify that. You know the people who are making the claim have a legitimate right to this money. I don't know how else she do that. If you don't have some system in place of our sources say that many times when the claims are investigated the benefits are cut off. But there's no telling. How many are out there. David goldstein from cbs. Free for all if you just get in there and if they get through somehow either online or through the telephone and just claim any job you want to. You might get benefits. Even you don't have to prove you were employed. Now now somebody figured out in sacramento. Just put a whole bunch of children's names in there and pretend they're child actors debts that some of these fraudsters brilliant. They really are. I mean i never would have occurred to me to fake all the children's names and then come up with children's jobs which are not uncommon in california fashion models. Wow that's great but hey nothing gets by l. newsome's bureaucrats professor of fraud right. That's a great day nickname. Although that doesn't really makes you think if you take classes fate we have a tom. Mcclintock speech is now up at kfi am six forty dot com. Go to the. John and ken page should have no trouble finding it at the top there. If you want to share it with people listen to it again. He's coming on at three. Oh five again. He made a speech about gavin newsom french laundry dinner which is an all time keeper. More coming up. John and ken kfi. John and ken show john kobylt ken. Chiampou kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Tried the kfi. Pastathon is back. It's our tenth year raising funds and pasta sauce for caterina's club. That chef does charity that feeds more than twenty five thousand kids every week. Thank the needs. Even greater they'd had to serve a lot more meals this year. Thanks to covid and the need their donate right now at pastathon dot com stop into any smart and final store in california arizona and nevada and donate ten dollars at checkout. Your donation will provide. Fourteen meals can also drop pasta and soft donations at the anaheim white house restaurant. Starting now you can go there through december fourth but it's daily from eight. Am to three pm. So time's running out today. And they're not going to do this on thanksgiving day. You wouldn't even need to leave your car. Volunteers on site will collect your donations. And then tune in beginning on december first for a couple of days of special exclusive live streaming events here on kfi bill mulugeta from fox. Eleven is just tweeted out that tomorrow night at ten to one pm curfew breakers are going to do a protest rally on the at huntington beach pier. California curfew great. Jeez you'll be shot. I'm more careful though. It's a protest. You're allowed to protest even after ten you can. I thought that's considered an essential activity. Oh yes well. it depends what you're protesting about. You're protesting social issues. Yeah yes that the police are killers that you can stay all night. The arts county. Sheriff said he will not enforce the order so in huntington beach people can feel free. They are not going to be arrested. Teargassed taste fired Fired on with less than lethal wait. Used to be called lethal. Now it's less than lethal. And i don't know what the differences we'll be talking to congressman. Tom mcclintock right after the news at three o'clock and going to move to huntington beach the northern california congressman from the fourth congressional district. It's a whole bunch of counties up there with no people in them He had the one of his finest moments yesterday And he gave this five minute speech on newsom and the french laundry so if you want to go listen to the speech. We have the lincoln. Kfi am six hundred dot com. John and ken page. And we'll talk to tom about it. The as matha was was it. The sacramento bee. I think it was Sacramento bee that says nothing will wash the stain of stupidity from newsom. Yeah the stain of stupidity. All the columnist weighed in with that kind of a big response. Did you see that. Even steve lopez. who's this. I don't read boring this this this was interesting. He's he was given a lot of time to A republican possible candidate for governor kevin faulkner at a san diego who's been married for the last six years and he sees 'cause faulkner sat down a pretty cutting tweet against newsom and lopez saying we had moderate republican governors before the most recent schwarzenegger and listen to faulkner here. He's the place another hack. I know but i have not seen such a unanimous revolt by all the left wing. Hack writers on all these idiot newsday's wing hack because most what they write his dribble but they're attacking new some. Yes it's funny but it's temporary. Believe me oh. I know but newsom who's taken fire from everybody here. Oh yeah twice. Disappeared feels really shamed. As we were noted yesterday he didn't come out to make the announcement about the new restrictions. Normally does he loves. the spotlight. Doesn't want probably questions about this or even to be shamed they in fact joel kotkin piece. That was just talking about a few minutes ago. The title of it. And it's insidious dash journal dot org governor preen and he writes if hollywood were to cast a governor and future president and of a straight white male were still politically acceptable. He would look like gavin newsom. He knew some handsomely. Epitomizes demise is the preening politics of the california elite class that is nurtured and financed his career from the beginning. Like aristocrats of the past newsom seems oblivious to the realities felt by constituents among the lower orders tonkin's a democrat in the face of massive wildfires. Fires he postures on climate change and he would. He writes about newsom here. Is that That that newsom comes from a coterie of san francisco's wealthiest families the fishers who founded the gap clothing chain pritzker whose family includes the current illinois governor and especially the getty family which essentially adopted newsom financed his business ventures and paid for his first lavish wedding while helping launch his political career and he was a protege of willie brown so he i mean the the getty family. Maybe some people don't remember getty oil Was was the company that the getty family made billions and billions from and newsom was born into this precious wealthy And he was a cultured into being this preening posturing left-wing fake and and he doesn't know real life at all. He's never had a tense moment. Maybe when he was having sex with kimberly guilfoil or he was having sex with his campaign. Manager's wife i mean he was groomed. Look the joke about. The elites is summed up in the expression the wine cave. This guy started his own winery and probably had a problem with alcohol which he wouldn't admit to remember all right but he does fit it with the hair gel He fits the entire description with the press suits and to set expression on right. But that's as far as goes there's chronic language this nothing more than a jaw and gelled hair and nice suits he s. He opens his mouth. It's a catastrophe. Because he can't even understand it jargon and he has no experience with normal people's lives he wouldn't know a middle class person if he ran over them in his limousine. He is exactly when people start talking about the coastal elites. That's who they're talking about. He pitted my right. You're of san francisco and somebody's quoted in the story saying that's the reason he was pushed in supported by this san francisco mafia. Yeah cabal is that. He's one of them. They know what they're getting so they're comfortable with him. Yeah he's pelosi's nephew brag marriage. Yes implant people up. It's not by blood. It's by marriage is the low sees. It's the the brown family was close to the newsome's all the jerry brown hated the stories that connect all these families that run california. There's only three or four of them right and l. is completely shut out of power. We've got nobody But it's all san francisco and it's all fake left wing. Bs because they don't live that life. They live the life of aristocrats far above at all. And that's why they were perfectly comfortable having their french laundry thousand dollar dinner and also and we'll get into this with tom mcclintock. I gotta keep emphasizing this. None of them were afraid of the virus. Think about that. If they're not afraid of the virus wire they making you afraid. I tom mcclintock. Who's coming on next. John and ken. Kfi debra mark as the news. Kfi am six forty fi am six forty. The john and ken show john kobylt and ken chiampou. Everybody yeah glad to make it and You know there was a big demand yesterday because we played a five minute speech. I guess it was off the c-span from congressman tom. Mcclintock he represents the fourth congressional districts way up north east sacrament sacramento south whole bunch of counties. I used to be a longtime legislators in southern california in the state legislature and it struck a chord with people. It was about Gavin newsom visit to the french laundry restaurant. People started requesting like it was a hit record and we played the second time you would think the new beatles single was found that we have to put a link-up on our web page because everybody keeps writing. How do i get that. Because i want to disseminate it to everyone. I know all right. So what was the freedom personal freedom. That's really the gist of. Let's say it. You make tom mcclintock on here. Guys tom you became rockstar here with the kfi audience of that's That's wonderful to hear thank you. How long did it take you to write that. After you thought of what you wanted to say a couple of hours of I was Try a processing all of the reports of of his french laundry party and Just kind of occurred to me. Yeah that's what we all ought to be doing. And thank god. Somebody has had the common sense to ignore gavin. Newsom idiot edicts. Even if it's gavin newsom as a backhanded compliment. Were you surprised. By any of this. I mean you had the ceo. The california medical association there and another lobbyist from the medical association. They represent fifty thousand physicians who've been trying to put out the word on proper protocols for the virus toy is is anybody truly surprised. I mean you look at the. Cdc numbers The the recovery rate for kobe. If you're if you're under forty nine years old ninety nine point nine two percent and if you're over eighty survival rates ninety four point six percent. Those are the cdc best estimate numbers right now. Forty percent of the people who get it. Don't even know they have it again. According to the cdc so they know this stuff so does it really surprise us that there that even the people who issue these eight x aren't taking them seriously in own private lives. That's what struck me beyond. The blatant hypocrisy was that none of them were afraid. Well you know. All mass hysteria are are driven by blind fear and every time throughout history. When this has happened there's always been a moment when that fear fever breaks and people begin to realize that the th that they've been overreacting and the asteria suddenly burns itself out that was to the salem witch hunts. It was true of the french revolution. It was true of the communist hysteria in the nineteen fifties The comes a moment when the absurdity of it all become so apparent that it overcomes the stereo. And i'm starting to wonder if if newsome's Partying at the french laundry and napa followed by this idiotic curfew that he's just imposed you know might be that moment where people take a step back and say wait a second. This is the you wanted to hide. He didn't even show up yesterday to announce his new curfew restrictions. I think he feel shamed. Well he's been very busy. I mean think about the enormity of of this new curfew. I mean this is a major scientific discovery who would have thought that cova nineteen can tell what time it is. That's very cover virus and and our friend gavin newsom. Figured it out you know tom. They don't even wanna use the word curfew. Keep telling the media to play that down. Oh it's not a curfew is to know it's it's hiding from the virus by running home before ten o'clock and lock the door behind you. That's right at nine o'clock. The virus asleep at ten o'clock. It comes out. This is evil superstition now. And i mean i mean you do have to wonder what's gonna be next. If that doesn't work splash blood over the door. That worked for moses what people heard from you was just a great personal call for freedom. Let people make their own choices in regards to the risks that are going to take. I think that's what really came through in your speech. And by the way that's what i was doing. That's what pelosi was doing when she when she went maskless in the the salon that had been closed for the rest of the public. That's what all of these california legislators were doing. Defying all of the travel bans and And and quarantines and junketing off to hawaii people can make their own decisions and if these people can make those decisions for you know about not the best and the brightest among us. I can't ordinary citizens make the same. Decisions was far more common sense than as exhibited by these so-called potentates. You had a great phrase petty tyrants. Yeah and j. I if you elect payday tires you get petty tyranny. And that's what's happened. I why do you think people put up with the nanny. State the idea that they have to have all the commands from above about their behaviors. Well like i said. I think i think there has been this enormous Fear of of Of the virus and it is a very nasty bug. I don't mean to downplay that as you pointed out with just past the terrible milestone a quarter million americans who have had covert died That's that's a that's a big number but when you look at the recovery rates and then compare that big number two. The number of people who die from from all sorts of other causes it begins to fall under perspective. And when when you're looking for for people under forty nine of Having a ninety nine point nine two percent recovery rate And and by the way that includes everybody in that age group including those who have morbidity That's a pretty damn good survival rate and you know even for for for the elderly ninety four point six percent. Not not bad odds. And that's if you get it. What is getting a big response to your speeds. Because here with kfi's audience people just want to hear it over and over again. I'm happy to hear that Yeah we're getting called into the office a few calls. How could you defend that gavin. Newsom hotlines you should release it on spotify as a record. I didn't know what spotify is. But i'll have one of my twentysomethings tell me the streaming say you can make money off of this. What what is what is driving newsom and locally here the la county board of supervisors. They cannot get enough of imposing these restrictions. even though they don't make any sense the rules are constantly changing their inconsistent and hasn't made life better at all it hasn't slowed down the virus which seems to run on. Its own course what what keeps driving them with these with these shutdowns. I don't know. oh yeah obviously. It's not rational. Perhaps there's just something in our human nature. I mean we we. I remember that Jack handy the great philosopher who used to be featured on saturday night live. He wants said in a previous life. I must have been a great king. Because i really like it when people do what i tell them to. That's part of our nature and unfortunately We have a politics kind of draws that type into it and when it when a fool gets power you end up with a petty tyrant. And i'm afraid that's what's happened with with so many of these These so-called leaders. I love the way you're kind of saying trust people to make their own decisions and make their own decisions and this will play out better than you try to over manage this control. Everyone's lives that's exactly exactly. Isn't that called freedom. Isn't it kind of scary that everybody's been willing to give up so many freedoms so quickly. Yes but we've we've seen that down through history and it often doesn't end. Well i do think the american people are reaching a point where they've had a belly full of this nonsense and the more absurd these restrictions and edicts become and and the more contradictory they They're revealed be. I think the People are starting to question. I mean we all know the story of the Of the emperor's new clothes with the charlatans who came to town and said well only the most virtuous and and intelligent can can see the emperor's new clothes while essentially that's what we're being told only the most virtuous and intelligent can actually understand the science underlying These these ridiculous edicts and sooner or later people start to say. Wait a second. I don't have the emperor's not wearing any clothes. There's no science to this. I mean you know. The as i said the speech the science tells us that A it is. It is virtually no threat at all to young people. It's a pretty serious threat to to The elderly So explain to me again why you ordered. All the schools closed and put infected patients the nursing homes that just starting to ask those questions. Finally and they're overcoming their own fear but fears are very powerful thing. Fear is what fuels mass hysteria and And the only way to stop that hysteria is is to get a grip on the fear. And i think people are starting to do that. Tom thank you for that speech yesterday. And thank you very much winning another term in congress. Well thank you for that too. It's a it's a privilege and an honor. Thank you congressman tom. Mcclintock from the fourth congressional district up near sacramento. More coming up. John and ken show. Kfi john and ken show john kobylt. Ken chiampou kfi am six. Forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Bed her everybody's getting covid nineteen now donald trump junior. You see giuliani son. Andrew giuliani covid. Nineteen o trump. junior guy. You didn't hear deborah. Listen i new times twice. I sat it twice and fifteen minutes. I think he was taking a walk. No you weren't that's right. You could see me. Donald trump junior and andrew giuliani tokyo. Remember talking about him years ago. He was a strange child. Yeah was any during giuliani's inauguration and he was a little kid and he was climbing all over the place. I think ceremony people thought he he might have some sort of attention deficit disorder. He works on the trump team to with his father. He fits right in there. I think he is a lawyer. Speedway speaking of you know how we were talking yesterday about Placing restrictions placing restrictions on zipcode by zipcode basis. Which they're doing in new york and new jersey by coincidence last night someone on the nextdoor app in my zip code posted the zip codes corona virus statistics because yesterday we had the fourth death in zip code four since the beginning of march and he also posted the day by day. Total and this is why at least in my zipcode. Nothing should be shut down in yesterday. There were five cases day before eight days before five day before six then five to eight. And here's the thing. I was thinking about this last night after we had this discussion buick. I did several times. In the last six months i went to orange county to dine in. Can't do it now. But i did. I told you if you're gonna shut down massive code. I'm gonna go to one. Yeah but you have money to do that. Well that's your point. There still buses but yeah. They're here's who's coming to work at your restaurants in your stores. It's already there from those communities. They're already they're they're in. They're in the grocery stores. They're still making food and the restaurants. Yeah here's a week in september which probably points out the fact that the spread is happening in the homes. It's not happening in the stuarts happening. It's pretty obvious it's going on. We're just under a lot of strict stupid rules. That make no sense or unnecessary it. Their apps i mean. Here's a week in september last week cases per day to three one zero one zero zero two or zip twos this mexico. Yeah he's got a whole. It's pretty low too. He's got a whole spreadsheet. I don't know where he got this from and he said we're news. There's no twenty years. The nextdoor app to he got it from some government agency and he's got the official oh. La county department of health. So there's no reason for this. And here's statistical proof. Why is the whole. Might my section of town my zipcode shut down. Because we're getting two cases a day maybe five in a bad week four deaths. Can you mentioned if i told you your entire town would be shut down for eight months because four people were going to die. Imagine hearing that january later this year they're going to shut down for the rest of the air. 'cause there's four deaths in your town i mean. You'd you'd have more casualties in a bad car accident. I coming up next good. Remember back when the stupid bridge home for mayor. Yoga pants garcetti. This idea of setting up city encampments for the vagrants and he kept touting this phony statistic about all the people have been housed and we knew and the city controller. Ron galp was talking about this well. A lot of those people. Don't stay in the housing. Well the el segundo times finally ran a story. Say just that just. A small percentage end up quote permanently. Housed more details coming up john and ken show. Kfi john and ken show john kobylt and ken. Chiampou kfi am six forty glide everywhere on the iheartradio webster. Gregory is gonna come back in here in a half an hour. He asked barbara ferrer. The question about why. They aren't walking down based on zip codes like they're doing in new york new jersey which i'm particularly interested in since i found out last night. There's only been four deaths in my zip code at eight months and yet all the restaurants are operating at Limited capacity outdoors predict her response. People will still continue to move between zip codes in the county. It probably won't change the outcome and we decided not to go that route of they they don't nobody's nobody's coming to my section from high virus ehrlich summit work. Yes but that hasn't hasn't caused any any problem in our town. We get two cases a day. Yeah i want to know if this thing is working in new york. I keep hearing about it. But they're still screaming about the virus counts going up so i don't know if it's working yet well the old way wasn't working. Nothing's working no. Nothing works because the virus is going to do what it's gonna do. It's a virus in this to somebody today. It's the eighty twenty rule. i think. Eighty percent of people socially distancing wearing masks. Doing something the other twenty percent. Don't give a crap and maybe that's okay but it's keeping the story alive because it because you don't have a rational person seeing through all the noise a rational person would say what you've just said that it's a small number of people and still only three percent of the country has even caught this thing. It's about three percent of the state to write three percent of the state and ninety nine percent of the people who caught it survived it. So what's the point of all this. What's the point. There's no point to this anymore. People's need to be afraid if you don't wanna get it you can't stay home and never get it. You're never gonna get it if you stay home. We'll talk about this. In the four. O'clock hour steve. Gregory will come with that audio so the el segundo times finally ran a story that i think we were waiting for here at the john and ken show mayor yoga pants. Eric garcetti. starting. I guess it was almost three years ago now. Had this idea of putting a homeless shelter in each of fifteen council districts. You know the bridge home thing. Yeah and of course. There was rebellion and many of them. They eventually got some up. But he's claiming. This is our way back until we can find permanent housing for these folks. These fellow angelenos. Well times review is showing that garcetti's signature homelessness program which has cost about two hundred million dollars has had less success living up to its promise to move people on the streets into permanent housing specifically of nearly fifteen hundred people who are in these shelters and left through early november only fifteen percent moved on to permanent housing in contrast two-thirds either went back to the street or left without saying where they're going so it's a complete failure. Yes they blew two hundred million dollars of your tax money and remember how they snookered us on that on. That proposition snickered us. He spent two hundred million. And now it's clear that it's failed to the sales city of la past property tax for this and the county passed a tax yes it was eight taxes and prop h h h and between the two of them. It was about three million dollars and it all got flushed. The toilet spent on contractors. Who are politically connected to the city and these fake phony fraudulent nonprofits who are run by people who make six figures at also politically connected to the city. It was a slush fund. It was a money laundering scam. And it's helped nobody. And here's the thing and we'll say this again and we say it every time these buffoons who think housing i is. The answer are mistaken because people who have these severe dysfunctions alcoholism mental illness. And of course drug problems can't just be given a bridge home encampment. Downst- stay and cures everything. And oh in a few months. We'll put them into a into a hotel room and we'll put them into a apartment. Very expensive apartment doesn't work. You're not changing the behavior unit. You're gonna go back to doing what they were doing. Because they're still dysfunctional. Do you know they have a breakdown of what happened to these people to you. Have all the people they put into a bridge home. Only four percent checked into a mental hospital four percent. See that's it right there. That's how you're not going to solve this by giving them some sort of a hotel room or a ucla. An encampment space are ucla survey. Found that seventy five percent of of the street vagrants have mental issues. Seventy five percent four percent from his homeless program. Here's here's another one and then that covers a mental hospital or even a detox program. All three two percent went to jail and seven apparently died seven died. I the thing is they forced him into these neighborhoods. And they said oh. Don't worry this is not gonna attract any other homeless people and we'll keep it clean. The won't be garbage. they lied i. You should never ever believe garcetti. When he says oh. Don't worry we'll take care of the environment. And i remember the number. I'm going to throw one out. I thought i thought he kept telling the press. Oh twenty one. Thousand people have been taken off the streets and put into housing with our grab and then he could run and call out and said no allows people don't stay and he was right at least the times doug to get the actual data to prove it and of course this is that lhasa yeah homeless services agency there director. Heidi marsha well. It's not surprising because nationally. Seventy five percent of people exit unknown locations trying to make it sound like well it. Does it work anywhere. That's because it's the wrong solution. There were all beating their heads against the wall here. They're doing the wrong thing it off. The streets into some kind of shelter is not the solution getting them into mental hospitals and into detox. That's what you have to do it. They don't wanna do it. Then you've got to find a way to make them. Here's here's what they did in venice christina teluk says. They told us we would have a cleaner neighborhood if we accepted this. Exactly the opposite has happened. Encampments have grown crime is up residents live in fear. She said i'm scared. She can't take her mother for a walk and she sleeps with a baseball bat. This is how garcetti and bonnin ruin neighborhood. They made promises they lied. But the suckers in venice believed garcetti in bonn. Here's another one here. The rousch darbinian owns a body shop blocked from the shelter and he said the city failed to deliver on their promise that the encampment would be cleaned up because there's a homeless camp in front of his business so they never cleaned it up. This is a bad situation and it gets worse. Then here's another one a block from the el puente shelter. Unabridged running over the one and one freeway men named eric. Devito sat outside his tent in a dodger cap. Smoking meth and listening to jazz. He sixty years old. He's been homeless for twenty years struggling with addiction and he got a placement at the el puente shelter and they said they wanted to keep you there. As long as i was getting my wife in order getting my birth certificate things like that but over the summer he got into confrontation with a security guard and returned back to back to the street to the overpass. Now dennis a man who gave his name only as arkansas similarly participated in the revolving door from shelter to street that back to the street in the shelter. He said he had his belongings stolen. And here it is. He chafed at the rules about when he could come and go so he left there. You go great example because these people can't get along with other people they can't follow the rules they don't wanna follow the rules they never will. They'll always end up in disputes and fights because they're out on drugs and they're mentally. Ill crazy people. Don't get along with other people crazy. People don't follow rules crazy. People don't get their life straightened out. You can't get your life straightened out when you're crazy. On drugs it's impossible. You have to be forced into treatment. And that's the one thing that they will not do is forced people into treatment. It's the only thing that will work. It's the only thing they don't do instead. They sucker the taxpayers and damn the taxpayers for believing this stuff you vote for these damn propositions you agree for these idiotic shelters to come into the neighborhood and they screw you over every time they take your money and then they ruin your neighborhood and you stand there going. Oh but they promised we got more coming up. We'll be talking to steve gregory with the latest. La county and they were new restrictions. next johnny ken. kfi. John and ken show john kobylt. Ken chiampou kfi am six. Forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. The kfi pastathon is back ongoing right now. Our tenth year. The need is very great this year because of kovin there's been even greater demand for these neal's caterina's club chef bruno's charity feet toward the twenty five thousand kids every week. You can donate right now. Pastathon dot com. Don't forget smart and final stores in california arizona and nevada. You can donate ten dollars at checkout very easy and you could also drop pasta sauce. Donations at the anaheim white house from now through december four daily from eight in the morning till three in the afternoon except thanksgiving day. He wouldn't even have to get your car. Volunteers will be on site to collect your donations. Well it's time for the animal. Update debra mark. You want the good news. The bad news dealing with this particular animal update. I want the good news. I okay denmark. And the minx. They were going to kill all the links remember. I haven't yeah. I remember well. The good news is that the agricultural secretary resigned in shame over this. I no longer have sufficient support among majority of the parliamentary parties said mogens jensen and a resignation statement. They also halted the call as it's called but the bad news is three million. Minks went down before they stopped. So that's not cool remillard. That is ridiculous. Okay so there were fifteen million farm to mix in that country she. She is hyperventilating now on pissed. She's she's got her arms folded and she's going okay. Well i feel bad. I'm sure you guys do too. But now that dead debra. Can i have the i know well. Why can't we get some use out of it. That's how many coats can you get out of three million mink promptly quite a few even mink. You're very tiny. Three three million little tiny code. Oh by the way. They're supposedly very nasty. Did you know that deborah no that there are nasty. Yeah they don't take the people. They're very annoyed with how they're treated by the human. They deserve to be a coat. No they're pissed at humans. They don't want to be their coats. You must have had mink coat one. I have never ever ever. And i never want when you will never ever ever ever ever see me wearing when ever. I made that clear enough. We should do in our country like they do. In these countries they just measure government. Trust and when it shrinks they sometimes have to reorganize the government. That's what we should do sacramento. Oh that's right we should clean it out. Head needs to be fumigated. Sacraments people know listening the started because some of the mink apparently developed coronavirus. And they were gonna mutate the humans and the vaccines wouldn't be any good in la blah blah. Then they determined. Maybe that's not the case. They stopped the slaughter but three million. You wanted to take a chance though. I thought we thought we can't take any risks at all. Not one life can be lost. I say kill the minx. Stay away from the meetings. Then you don't have to worry about it now. I will call your attention to another animal story. That's good news. I don't know if debra mark has seen the video it is pretty amazing. It was a tmz special. This morning in florida. Naples which i think john is on the west coast right naples. A man rescued a little puppy from the jaws of analogous roy. I did not see that. And it's fascinating to watch. It was taking it a little bit of a distance. But he must have noticed that. Gator had the puppy in its mouth in the water and he ran to the water and you see them struggling. It's not a big gator. I should tell you that right now. But he pride the jaws open. You see the puppy runoff. Oh that's wonderful and that's a great friday story. Apparently puppy went underwater briefly. The guy managed to pull the gator up and squeeze the puppy out of the jaws and this is cute. Little fussy thing that runs off. I'm getting outta here at the sound. Walsh was a bad day was probably playing. The gator was like erik. There's lunch you can't you can't leave. Remember that the little kid at the disney resort years ago. Oh my god that story. You can't leave little. Because we'd been down of aryan florida and and there's a lot of gators and they're in all the lakes and the rivers and the sides of the road. Sometimes you see them in ditches. Yeah that fill up with water after the rains and the gators are floating there. They're all over the place. Well the reason is that florida's you know what they got. Swamps down there in the southern part of the state right. The everglades yeah. There's a lot of waterways there in that state. The the alligators can just moved between them and they can end up anywhere. Would you guys have done that. Would you have rescued a puppy. No and they'd like the golf courses because the grass is nice and they like to go into the water. And just kinda hang out. I believe in the sanctity of nature. You have to lie. I don't know that. I would either deborah only because and you wouldn't either. I don't know if i win. That would allow you to. I don't think i could watch that. I would have to do something i would try. You're not even two bites for the alligator. i'm more or the what's the strength. You have to break open the when the adrenaline hits all right. You out and say don't eat vegan. That just can't be choosers. you know. We got steve greg. Imminent here coming up with new audio. From what dr barbara rare about restricting people by zip code john. That's what they're doing in new york and new jersey. Why don't they do that here. John and ken show debra mark has the news. Kfi am six forty breakfast guys. let's go. I'm leaving for mcdonald's and five seconds the breakfast stampede meal. 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Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app yet. Next hour we're gonna be talking to the riverside county. Sheriff chad bianco. Who's going to talk about if they're going to do anything to impose these new restrictions that go into effect here in california with the curfew and such we'll have the voice line people and it's going to be a credit dumpster today. I think it should be obvious to everyone what the story is with. Who's going in the dumpster. You'll hear that at five thirty five. I have been harping on the last few days. How The countywide shutdown is absurd from the geography standpoint. You have four hundred sixty seven square mile county and there's large parts of the county that have very low virus rates and have nothing to do with areas that have very high virus rates eastside. Los angeles for example northern valley and i new york new jersey. They shut down by zip code. They do restrictions by sip code and coincidentally yesterday after the show went home and there was a nextdoor app submission from one of the residents and he had gotten hold of the la county. Zipcode totals or at least the one for rs zip code where i live and it turns out. Yesterday was the fourth death in my zip code in eight months. Four and looking at the daily total the rolling seven day average right now is five five cases but for most of these months it's hovered between zero and two so for all these months. Every business has been restricted to some extent. When we were looking at in our neighborhood are zip code between zero and two cases a day and one death every two months and this is what. I'm talking about now. Steve tells us that he Asked barbara ferrer about the zip code idea. Based on our conversation. Last night i had the private media call with her today. And let's just get right into it. Here's what she said when i asked her. Have you tried to adopt the same model in new york. Based on hot tips or targeted zips i think targeting it for sort of like more restrictions. It's just hard because so many people in la county travel in and out of different cities and towns. People often work in a different neighborhood from where they live and again so having high rates in one neighborhood. I've often than translate at some point in time to higher rates in another neighborhood when there's a lot of pain of between the neighborhood so i think for now we're going to stick with a targeting extra resources to communities with high rates but keep enough study hand on a countywide approach to safety modifications. Except that's not true in our neighborhood. We have had two to five cases a day for eight months sometimes zero cases a day. So it's true. Nobody's mixing in our zip code. There's been no bleed over no know the travel no nothing eight months i got you. Yes yeah there's a lot of other neighborhoods where that will apply what she's talking about figure out where it does apply no seriously because what cuomo and is doing is micro clusters he's grouping several zip codes together. That have the virus characteristics in common. Doesn't have to be exactly zipcode. In fact you know you could make it any geographical boundary. You like when they do evacuations. You'll have your northern eastern western southern boundary. Whatever street that is but clearly the landscape changes. You get palmdale lancaster. You are not talking right in this. Is why the going back to that as a sidebar. That's why rx peres the mayor up there Said he was doing his own health department putting his own health department together so he would have so he could secede basically from the la county health department and do as much like passing long each have their own health departments. So that aside the two things my to take away from that answer if you'll notice she said for now. I thought that was interesting when she said she did the other thing. Missing from her response there was no mention of the equity metric because remember. That was a big thing not only statewide and countywide and she said she supported that. I was surprised. I expected the answer. Sick well you know because of the equity metric. We're not gonna really you know we're not going to target one zip code over another. We all have to go through this together. I was expecting that answer on xlii and she never says that so. I'm thinking that that was an open ended. Answer that. I'm thinking that the if this gets any worse and also on that call she did say there are no plans to give a stay at home order on sunday. She's kinda put that out of the of the mix right now. She will say if that does come to fruition that the county will get a three day notice but Both those my takeaways from that answer. Well i don't know. I don't understand anything what they're doing it. It's it's pretty obvious. There's certain areas. That should not be penalized. Sure they're just miles and miles away. After eight months. We have a big enough sample size. You can make conclusions that the virus simply is not gonna be an issue in some of these areas just because people live differently however you wanna described live differently so there's not the risk and even dead even plays further into the equity metric. And i think if if they're gonna make that argument you're going to have to change on the state level. If they were. I don't think the county can implement a targeted zip. Well that's just one of those fake woke pondering again all that but the reality is until the state changes it because the state has the equity metric order in place so the county is not gonna be able to activist got to newsom and newsom being this pandering fool that he is always virtuous signaling always wanted to show. He's the woke governor in the world. Wet with something that makes absolutely no sense because the virus doesn't know it doesn't jump on people based on their color or at this they it doesn't well the only thing based on the behavior of the person who got the virus. It's very likely that the politicians in hawaii were discussing this very thing and when they come back they have to isolate though they left the state. Well yeah otherwise steve. What stood out for me. There was we're going to continue to put more resources in areas. That was the first part of working. Yes what does it mean resources money. What are they spending the money on testing disgusting. It's testing education and communication testing. They've got working. They got thousands and thousands of people lined up dodger stadium. Well it was inches near those neighborhoods. I have to give a shout out to phil shuman. Because he had the first question on the call phil shuman asks are right now the shoot. It was interesting. His phil shuman has very interesting way of delivering. An you know. He's he kinda. He can be the the bearer of bad news at times and so he sits in goes doctor. You know clearly. Things aren't working clear. Things are working and that was his first question. Now here's for response to that. Was well phil. I'm more optimistic than you are. That's a non-response. Yeah but on the other hand. The numbers are going up and they're threatening any day now to do a total march like lockdown and. I think what she optimistic about. When yesterday saying that worked they think that three or four month period we had did flat occur. They are going to do it again. I think you're right. I think that if looking at this and having been with us since day one in kind of looking to way counter responding to everything everything's happy. Happy happy The don't want to. They don't want to admit a they don't want them in failure. That's pretty good. They have failed and admit it. There's nothing they can do. Writers no state. that's been successful. there's no country that's been successful other than isolated islands and self evident why they're able to be more successful but nobody in europe is successful. Nobody in south america. Nobody in north america. None of the states. Taiwan apparently is done job. Because that's kong. That's an those are those are islands. I suspect i suspect you're going to see decisions being made on what should probably been made months ago because things are getting so bad if they live down the news. China has actually. I don't believe that this news. Do you think this virus dylan. I don't know what's in china. I simply don't believe anything they say. I'm just gonna live the rest of my life never knowing russia's the same thing too. I see no evidence. I see no evidence that the russian and chinese governments are any brighter than any other government. But here's the thing if they impose the big walk down again. What's missing this time is the federal government has no bailout package. That's coming anytime soon. And the state still has a million and a half unemployment checks. They haven't delivered now. You're gonna have a complete lockdown without any safety net at all from either the feds or the st august homeless. And don't hey here's the other thing too and don't forget rentals repossessions vehicles. You've got small businesses. Now i mean this thing is going to come crashing down all around. Can't do it do the eviction band. Is this obsession. This obsession this hysteria with tom. Mcclintock said it is just nothing but hysteria. Salem witch trials. Interestingly though before i will tell you that I had at least ten restaurant owners reach out to me after our last segment and i told you the workaround during the break yes and that makes sense and i did share that with everyone by phone. I called everyone back personally. And i've shared that work around with at least ten tench Tim restaurant right the work around when they said you have to go to twenty five instead of fifty percent capacity outdoors. Yes okay bye guys. All right more coming up. John and ken. Kfi to john and ken show john kobylt ken. Chiampou kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Oh here's a quick story. We all love this place of colorado. Has its first in and out burger. It opened today in the line is twelve hours long to get double double twelve hours. Nothing to do but they're so excited to get their first effort in and out burger in colorado aurora. Police department actually put up a sign. Heavy traffic. I don't understand human nature anymore. I saw the thousands of people lined up for hours and hours to get stick up their nose yesterday and most of them are sick and they know they're not sick. They just have some annoying family member demanding a task before they come over for thanksgiving. I if if somebody if we were going over. Somebody's house and they said well you're going to have to have a test. You can't come over as like. I'm not coming over. You know. The football game runs on my tv to sit in line for five hours ago. A stick up my nose. For god's sakes i love in and out but five hours to get a cheeseburger no twelve hours twelve hours twelve hours to get a well. They just the police department. Put out a tweet. Twelve hours for a double double. What about what a useless species we are. What absolutely social media with the picture of them holding the show their friends and i got. Nobody has the time to rebel against all our freedoms being stripped away from us but they have time to stand in line for a stick up the nose or a cheeseburger and a small cheeseburger at that but ashes. also mickey d's donald trump. Junior apparently has tested positive for the coronavirus. We do not know john. The status of kimberly guilfoil. I i have no information on real friend. He should have a new some form of wife. He should be taken a lot of shots last. We talked about her. She was offering lap dances money for the campaign. Gavin newsom wife. Can you imagine i mean. She is clearly completely offer rock right from one end to the other with these men. Yeah what was going on Yeah i don't think it's their political interests that iran What do you think was going on in his house when he had his drinking problem and He was married to her what what was going on in there. I have never seen and the stories about her like at fox news her her co workers say she was passing around photos of male genitalia. That she had collected from guys looked to send those pictures to tell you that she'd been introduced to a couple of notes on our Wonderful governor andrew cuomo. He has been nominated for an emmy. Okay i saw that headline. And i thought it was a columnist being sarcastic. Because no he's been putting on these ridiculous shows but not really is getting an emmy. He's nominated it's international academy of television arts and sciences. The governor's one hundred eleven. Daily briefings worked so well because the effectively created television shows with characters plotlines lines and stories of success and failure said the president and ceo of the academy a lot of failure. So does that include the episode where he announced his It's the allegories is effective use of television during the pandemic. Yeah the best episode is when he announced that directive to send infected patients into the nursing home which ended up killing thousands and thousands of old people that that was that was an emmy award winner itself. My favorite though is the sticker that a buffalo company made you can put a little sticker. A governor cuomo on your windows so he looks like he's peaking in to see if you've exceeded the number of guests and households at your thanksgiving dinner. It's kind of funny it's like he's faces peering over the top of the match so check it out. Yeah that's where we are pasadena limits. I should make a new someone to look at this. He's gonna he's not made for an emmy. His state had the most deaths in america. This state had almost twice as many deaths california. What do you know but the end the is just for tv. Performance in what announcing policies that led to thirty four thousand deaths. No in being entertaining. He gave plotlines. He built up high-drama seriously. Nothing is making sense. Thirty four thousand people died thousands because of his decisions in fact he was downplaying. The virus early on and telling people to go about your day going. Go enjoy yourself. He was right holy moly. Everybody's insane absolutely insane. But we got four cup johnson to john and ken. Kfi hundred right now. Today there still so replaces nimbies don't invest in high speed rail. This war to be real. I like trains. John and ken show john kobylt ken. Chiampou kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Why are we doing this. Well believe it or not. Joe biden becoming president and that may not happen right. He is a fan of rail. And there's some speculation that he could help california high speed rail. Recover some of the money that the trump administration took away from it. There was a big federal deal. That came to california for a high-speed rail during the obama administration way back in twenty ten nine hundred twenty nine million dollar grant was like the last payment that was due of several billion dollars is coming from the federal government trump. Put the brakes on it. So that baby all they get out of this case. You don't know. Joe biden commuted between washington. Dc in his home in delaware for years amtrak was a hack senator every day. I think it was like an hour and a half two hour one way because he wanted to be home with his sons that turned out well with hunter biden. Yeah but anyway. There are some that believe that he would be sympathetic. What amazes me is every time. I read the story. I i can't even. I can't wrap my mind around the biggest public dollar waste of money ever in the history of the world you think about this. It was originally nine billion dollars in bonds back and await. The times says right. Now it's got an eighty billion dollar shortfall. They don't even have money to complete the hundred and seventy one mile starter. System between lovely bakersfield were said. This is supposed to run the entire state. Connect us north and south. Eight can't even come up with enough money. Complete this pathetic hundred and seventy mile. It was to be sacramento to san francisco down to los angeles anaheim san diego sacramento to san diego with san francisco off to the side and it was supposed to cost thirty three billion thirty three billion and lot shortfall now eighty billion and of course that number always grows and a lot of it was supposed to be done by now because remember they start in two thousand eight. I remember by the early twenty. Twenty s A lot of this supposed to be done. They have not laid down one foot of track. In fact they still haven't purchased all the land that they need timelines for this bakersfield percent. Twenty twenty eight twenty years buddy. They're out of money. So how do you get anybody to invest in bakersfield two percent. What's that pitch like. They're out of their minds are really out of their minds and like everything else. They're in on. This is just an attempt to steal money and to keep them going and gang there. Hey and reward all these criminals who've attach themselves to this operation politically connected companies. Construction companies consultancies Engineering groups lawyer groups all these parasites that live off government contracts. That that. that's because those you see. These guys contribute so much money to the politicians and this is their payback. Brian kelly is the ceo of the california high speed rail authority the chief executive but he's had that shop for years. I wonder home. But she's paid hundreds of thousands of dollars and rather than being run out of town. They're constantly calling them up for quite well. Biden is going to be president and he likes trains. What do you think your chances are that you can resume getting five dollars. Seventy eight year. Old man need like brown. They're about the same age aren't they. Yeah yeah these really old guys. Probably when they were little kids and their parents took them on a train ride and they thought. Wow this is the coolest thing in the world. Thanks mom dad. Can we go on the train again some day. This is the perfect time to replay that biden clip from earlier. Because that is oh yeah. He's today tonio hoot of this biden yesterday at his press conference a reporter asks about coming to the country what they would think of the transition he starts to answer and then listen to what happens. And what do you say. Americans especially immigrant americans who came to the united states looking for political stability and seeing all the things that the president is doing. hang on. i'm on my way. That's what i say. Not a joke. And what the president's doing now is is really is going to be another as be most irresponsible presidents in american history. It's just out of not even within the norm at all but he's a cracker case like right on top of the biggest gap is five seconds. So play again let. Let's go down this guy with putin and people like that international leaders. Do you think is staffed worried that he's going media thinks that the whole world's been spending four years laughing at and Joking about trump behind his back to this guy this this bobblehead in the room trump trumped ever ran out of words. I played again. Because i i to see that you ever see that. Sometimes it said but the empty stare that some people have like nobody's home. Yeah 'cause nobody's home at the stairs. Bedroom is empty. Hang on my way all hang on. I'm on my way hurt. That's what i say not a joke. And what the president's doing now is uh is really one to three or is going to be another as being most irresponsible presidents in american history. It's is just out of the not even within the norm at all. If they were smart they will limit his press conference. Ed think so hang on. I'm on my way okay. Who was script in a very short easy to read. Script is coming to save the day. Oh man stay in the basement thaddeus but he likes trades. They don't they set up but he's he's focused on commuter trains about high speed rail. I it's two completely different system. Kill this monster can. We can't amtrak works to some extent. It's a huge money loser. The federal government has to subsidize it. With gobs and gobs of money but there's a lot of big cities that are clustered together. Obviously boston new york philly baltimore washington my so You know those are long drives and traffic. So you don't wanna do that. You sit in the train and now with technology people can have have their work on the train so it would be talking to the riverside county. Sheriff ted bianco. At five o'clock that will bring us right into the voice line people in less than an hour. We got sacks to put in a dumpster. All coming up john and ken. Kfi china can't show john kobylt ken. Kfi am six forty five everywhere on the iheartradio app side county. Sheriff coming on five o'clock chad. The uncle to talk about what they're going to do as forest enforcement is concerned with the state's new restrictions on your movements particularly after ten pm up until like five in the morning that'll be followed by voice. Line part one hacks to go in a dumpster mob members of already do we test them when they come and take their temperature or the vodka kills everything. We're have to worry about that. They are so they will be here to throw hacks at a dumpster that will live another round of the. Oh by the way. This is the last night that the virus will not attack you after ten o'clock okay. This is the last night you could eat or drink after ten at a business then. Starting tomorrow the virus will hide all day and only come out after ten right. That's a good thing to know tonight. Tonight it's going to stay dormant tomorrow night. This story pop up that there might be some evidence. The italian cancer institute thinks maybe cove nineteen short in italy before it didn't china and apparently the chinese have jumped right on this story to say i'd go. Maybe that's where the virus started in that country. I don't know. I mean it was first identified me in on in december. But they're claiming. This antibody study that. The blood taken from healthy patients in italy in october last year during lung cancer screening trial did turn up. Sars kovic to antibodies. Well is that among chinese residents that live and work in italy because there's say who they see that that's the thing there's there's a larger reason it blew up in. Italy was from the chinese workers who work in the milan fashion industry or did it. I'd i says all of the patients in this study were as symptomatic despite most being fifty five to sixty five years old and having been smokers. That's why they were being screened for lung cancer. Maybe maybe it's chinese workers right then. How could it be the same thing. They're older and they're smokers and we're being treated for for cancer issues. They were being screened. Yes and there was being screened and apparently somebody went back and looked at it and said what are you know. There's covid nineteen. Antibodies in these. I see a crackles. I see a crackpot headline about virus research almost every day. Now this is there's a lot is it's and i read the stories within about three paragraphs nonsense. Click bay this. It's still china's fault. It was rampant in china. They lied about it. They covered it up. They had their stooges at the world health organization. Cover it up dude g exciting medical news today though. I don't know if you heard about this. They have they claim they successfully reverse the biological aging process group of elderly adults researchers from tel aviv university. And the shamir medical center used a form of oxygen therapy to reverse too key indicators of biological aging something called telomere length and something called sentence cells accumulation. Apparently as you get older. You're you're you're telling years apparently shorten as it's called is a break off caps found at the end of chromosomes right and that allows the aging process. Run wild is good news. Does everybody want to live longer. Well they want to but is that a good idea. Sure so we worry about viruses. Say we should think this through. Yes they were able to increase in the trial that the telomeres increased in length by an average of twenty percent. While they're there those cells sense settles an assistant. Nobody's ever gonna leave. This is wow this. This is equivalent to how their bodies were to cellular level. Twenty five years earlier could add twenty five years yup about that john people eighty canal to one hundred and five easily yet but what age but yeah but what age are you and how will we look on the outside. That's all she cares about. I would assume you'd rather drop dead than grow old and wrinkled if it can do this internally would probably i know but it's exactly right isn't it. Maybe you'd rather go out a good looking corpse. Hey i don't know if you're gonna tell at eighty. I got another twenty five years of being eighty. I don't want it. Looks like they stuck. These people in one of those oxygen chambers is what it says here is part of what they did remember. Michael jackson used to do that. Yeah the hyper-baric oxygen therapy yeah could prevent the deterioration of these two Landmark indicators of the aging process yes. You're right he did but did that every day. And i don't know. I just remember seeing it on the front cover tabloids years ago. He'd still be alive if he so hooked on his things on its proper fall on his milk. I did have an oxygen facial one time and my skin looked amazing for a few hours. Blue on your face oh no oxygen facial yes for you go for any Ninety trend it was a long time ago and only a few hours. If she's very vain. I am vain. I admit it but my face looked incredible. But it doesn't it didn't last long by four o'clock started sagging. It just looked very physical low wing and healthy and just looked amazing wicked queen. It looks in the mirror. You're actually eight years old on the inside. It sometimes working with you guys. Let me tell you got side county. Sheriff is coming on next. john. And ken show debra mark has the news. Kfi am six forty. John and ken show still struggling with puberty. John kobylt ken chiampou. Kfi am six forty wide everywhere on the iheartradio app. Welcome everybody oh the last hour of the show with the week which means we're bringing the voice line people into the room at about Fifteen minutes from now in thirty minutes give or take. You are to throw some hacks dumpster it should be pretty obvious with all of these new restrictions seared california the curfew and such who these people might be going in the dumpster. It's it's a large collection so we brought in extra help. The mob members extra serbs extra. Paul's extra extra poles serbs are going to whack these with polls exactly We're gonna talk to the riverside county sheriff now county sheriff's Seem not to be interested in enforcing this new wacky curfew from state where Businesses are going to close at ten o'clock and not open until in the morning because the virus only travels at night. Chad bianco as riverside county sheriff We've also heard that. Don barnes in orange county alex fee and a wave in la county of both expressed no interest in spending anytime chasing down. Curfew scofflaws scofflaw sheriff. Bianco welcome to the john and ken show again. How are you thanks guys. I'm doing well All right You are not going to be dealing with this curfew order. No i i mean you. You got to apply a little bit of common sense. And that's not what law enforcement is for. It doesn't make any sense for us to do that. Were we certainly are not going to make an attempt at that so we respond to complaints. Or how will that work know if it's if it's a complaint because they businesses open or because someone is not wearing a mask or because someone is not social distancing. No we will not respond if we if there is some other type of criminal behavior behind it then obviously we. We will respond to something like that. But just because someone is violating curfew or not wearing a mask No they dispatchers will not even specialist call. So you're looking at this as a regulatory else order not as a criminal situation. Well i i mean i. I don't know if i'm looking at it. That deep i'm looking at it like it's ridiculous for us to send deputies it'd be magic patrol and for to be curfew patrol You know we were. We've told everybody that you need to practice. You know save hygiene to wear your masks. Stay away from people and i. You know. I'm hoping that people are adults. If if you're the problem i see is. You've got half of the population that or maybe even more than that. That quite honestly doesn't care if they get it and then you've got some people with serious health conditions and everything else that obviously don't want it and we hope that they don't get it but those are the people that should be staying home and that should be curfew and not. The people that are out healthy. Has the state told you what you're supposed to do. Let's say you hear about a restaurant that still serving food and drink at eleven o'clock at night. What are you supposed to do as a sheriff arrest. Everybody at the tables confiscate their foods. I don. I don't understand what is supposed to go to jail now. Well we had a conference call with representatives from. The government governor's office and It was all of the sheriffs in the state. I can't tell you that all of them were on but the majority were and we all have the same questions all saying concerns and we asked the same questions and we didn't get answers like well. We'll get back with you or well. We expect you to enforce that and well. We expect you to do that and it. Just there's i honestly. I don't believe they know either. And it's almost like my personal opinion is well. I don't know what to do. So i'm gonna go ahead and make a curfew and then i'll be able to tell people that i at least did something right and a curfew about a virus. Only after ten o'clock not before ten o'clock and ten o'clock right now. How much sense does that make none. Did you sense that. Most of the sheriffs are going to ignore this. Yes again. I can't speak for all of them. Because i don't know if there were on ones on the phone that that didn't agree with the rest of us but the overall majority of the sheriffs in the state Feel the same way i do. What is the jurisdiction that state department would have over a county sheriff. Is there any direct line. Were were you retort to them. No i don't report to anyone. The the state sheriff's this is a problem for the state. Our state government people are assembly and Our legislators the problem that we pose to them is that they have zero control over us. And what we do. So that is why. You've got la county trying to say we're not going to elect the sheriff anymore. We're going to appoint them so then we can fire them at will We re answered to the voters. The voters put us into To protect them to protect their constitutional rights to uphold the constitution. And we do that to the best of our abilities without outside political interference. do you think all these restrictions. our constitution My personal opinion there. There may be some that are But i believe that some are not. I do not believe that you could that that it is that the state has the ability to force a healthy person to stay home or a business to close based on something. That probably won't happen. Yeah i i mean i know. We talked to the san bernardino official this week and he was frustrated because san bernardino has large empty desert areas with small remote towns which has virtually no virtually no virus Incidents and then you have a town like san bernardino where there's some neighborhoods where there's a lot and this. This sprang policy is absurd. Because i have san bernardino villages out the desert. They're one hundred miles away from any virus districts right and and in riverside county were similar. We're very. It's a similar demographic there they they're a little bit more vast than we are but we still have those same types of locations into say that you know we're just gonna blanket party shut down the entire county and and the sheriff. I have to send my deputies to go. Make sure it. It's it's just ridiculous now. Are you getting any blowback from the riverside. County board of supervisors know. I've i've made it perfectly clear from the beginning of this where we stand where i stand and what we will be doing about not enforcing justice. These orders were trying to get voluntary compliance. We're not going to arrest anyone site anyone so they know right where i stand. And they've been very supportive they. They've got their job to do and they know i have mine and They let me do it. So it's we've got a very good working relationship here. Have a local police chiefs. This cities that have their own police force. Are you aware of any local police chiefs that are gonna be enforcing this There there may be one or two in the county riverside we meet with them on a routine basis I will tell you that all of the chiefs of police are on the same page that they think it's a waste of time for law enforcement resources to be spent on a curfew or on masks or on social distancing however The difference between a myself and a chief of police is. I answer to the voters and i. I'm put in that position and the whim of a city manager or city council and they can be let go at any time so they there we do have a couple of our cities that Their city council may be pushing very very hard for that chief to arrest people and so he has to decide if he's going to do that or and lose his job or if he's going to stand firm so i i'm not one hundred percent sure what direction they're gonna take chad. We appreciate you coming on. Thank you very much. Thanks guys keep. Everyone informed riverside county. Sheriff chad bianco among quite a few showers and california who say that they are not really going to be out there enforcing the new restrictions. And it's pretty much the same that said that months ago when we did the complete japan headed off. I mean yeah. They would be up to like local health departments to try to pull licenses from restaurants. But they'd have to go out there and do their own inspecting the not going to have cops do it for them to what a police state good lord we have to. We have to crush wash the curve. What's it called flat in the kirtland nigger now. You know what we don't almost everybody curves or curves are wonderful. I don't wanna see anything flattened i. It'd be quebec. We'll be joined. By our friends. The moi slide. People john and ken show. Kfi nothing. If you have something to say they have nothing. Just shake your head beta. Yeah what's wrong with courage you. Have you have coronavirus fatigue to do. I will yes. Of course. But i do what i need to we. We're talking about the virus. I don't know what's going on in your okay. Oh i misunderstood so sorry. John and ken show john kobylt ken. Chiampou kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app right. I guess it's time for the moist line isn't it it is. Let's get to the voice line. Caller is the toll free number for you to dial up. Leave your messages one. Eight seven seven voiced eighty six john. We're so excited to hear from you about time. Just wanted to give you an update on the infamous homeless encampment under the four zero five overpass on venice boulevard. One side being culver city. Well it is now a gated community. The homeless encampment now has offense completely surrounding it no access for pedestrians stop complaining about. They're not getting homeless housing. They have a gated community. Doing biking is a briefing blood pressure from being locked down the high blood pressure giving people heart attack. And that's what's killing him not kobe. What does a typical day look like for mayor. Garcetti i like to get a camera crew to follow him around for a day because obviously nothing productive is getting done. I imagine him sitting in his office staring at the wall looking out the window. Waiting for that call from vitamin rather apparent. That when they were talking about the second wave of covid with we're in now they were referring to a nursing home joe in the white house. That's how a second wave by response to gavin gavin gavin gavin cabbage. Don't smell that science melt. He's only sorry because he got caught right. Yes john and cam midst. The roaring twenties all over again. The crowd is gonna have to create the speakeasy inside the party. Lovely the way. Our governor got him and running everybody instead. I'm so sorry that i didn't believe that dinner the other night and then when he got out to the parking lot everybody's tack on purple. I will not give them from my balls like this. So when we're thinking about when to make the curse holy could be. Why don't we asked. gold gavin. Many people had to stay. How late at work for him to be at the french laundry nurse cova decisions based on yet. Scientifically researched vaccine is dangerous. Both total hypocrite. But then again talking about on news. I am gavin newsom and i was never taught how to speak and take a breath at the same time because i am and i am your governor and i am a piece of. I'm just calling to say happy birthday to debra mark. We love you. You're amazing. And i wanted to say that. Good line directly to gavin newsom. You are a inches going to the french laundry. The fiftieth birthday party with of your buddies while restaurants are being shut down. You know you need to shut up about this. Open up our state. I've had it with california state government. We've gotta get rid of. Do as i say as i do new some and the rest of the fit. The tin hawaii us have to follow. I say we're all these zip and check them into the ocean for shark food. I just wanted to see if i get a quick message to that fake barbara fair. Shake doctor you know the politician shame on you you should be condemning. Governor newsom joke of the year. I bet you a restaurant. Do i not as i do. And how about these lawmakers on are dying. They're gonna shut us out there. They can go to restaurants they can ban vacation convention to make laws against anybody else. Bench found out. My work is going. One hundred percent work from home. And i get to move anywhere in the country and get paid my way so i can't wait to get out of here. I did want keep. Thank you both for continuing to speak the truth in. Show a clown on governors plural have been over the many years and Yeah anyways killing get outta here and keep up the good work. Thank you for leaving your message. Please hang up through by no kidding. Next wednesday debra mark. Has your birthday it is. She announced it john. While you were out. I won't be here by the way a white came up but she had to stick it in there. I don't. I'm taking my birthday off. That's what it was. Yeah what's What number birth. I'm not gonna tell you happen real. We're gonna ca- your rings say cut for arm all right when we come back. We do have hacks for a dumpster. This might be a new record because the number of hacks to go in the dumpster is eleven let s. There's a specific reason for that. You will find that out on the other side of the news break. Johnny get kfi. It's time for john. And to throw off dumpster johnny catch gone. Kobylt ken chiampou. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Yeah it's going to be so we did bring in the super-duper weird we we now have. Yes we have the extra large super expanded dumpster We have a an unusual number of political hacks the thrown in the dumpster so we bring an extra mob member. It's some more serves in some more polish guys. To and polish women are in there too hard to tell from a distance. But yes wow. We went into a rough neighborhood. They've all been covert checked. Although john claims that the vodka will the vodka. Yeah really it's an wipes out all the virus. They've done tests well all throughout eastern europe. The reason it's a big group taxes that no story dominated more this past week than the french laundry. Dinner of gavin newsom and his cohorts. Isn't that the most pretentious name. The french laundry steve. Gregory said it. We used to be a laundromat as at rice. I was yes. Is there something special about the way. The french do laundry or i. They decided to french restaurant that used to be a laundromat. If french laundry three hundred and twenty five dollars just for the basic meal e. the other big story involving more pretentious and hypocritical people where the group of california who went to maui. So that's it that's ten. Legislators one governor that's eleven hacks that's why it's a crowded dumps at its record. Now this list of hacks. Most of them not familiar to me. Except for one. Chad as of rancho mirage now described as an independent. He was a republican that we went after years ago. Because he as a republican he did a backstabbing maneuver and his constituents and voted one of the key votes to raise taxes back when they had to beg republicans to vote yes on taxes because you needed a two-thirds majority and back then the democrats didn't have a two-thirds majority so they had to buy off some sleazy republicans maze got so much blowback yet to leave the party. But they still vote for mayor in rancho mirage. This is another element of the gas taxes. This is the one they pass and go after the oil companies will pass on that tax to you. Oh now this weasel. This worm shows up in hawaii and this scandal. What is with you people out in the desert too much math. What's going on. I usually d one second. I wanna hear Chad maze went on. Nbc and palm springs to explain us. Listen to some of this before we throw him in a bunch of rest them in. But i think the perception of course Is is bad. I i in fact In agreeing to to come over to this conference. I was very impressed. With all the protocols a safety protocols the not only The conference organizers put together also the state of hawaii and then We took off on on friday and And when i land sometime after at. I'd gotten word that there was a new a mandate from the garcia say mandate but a new advisory for for travel and so of course two days later seeing. You can't travel and yet you've got. Legislators that are in in. Hawaii certainly doesn't doesn't look real good. One thing i've been saying is that we have to learn to be able to to operate a within this environment. I also think that there's that trust in government is also very important and i know we had the community and seems to think that there's a set of rules people another set of rules for for another this one in particular like i said i'm jay impressed with the safe. Travels that white put together wired to get tested in two hours before entering the state. And if you don't get things that island settled. Reverend mix poop and i will read their names nights state assembly member floor jordan hand. Republican state senator. Andreas democratic state. Senator bill dodd. Democratic consider members blunk lanka rubio. She's involved in part mike. Gibson carson hussein medina's riverside correal. They're all what a diverse group of croatia tax into the dumpster. And everybody in their papa chat. I got slithering stuff like. There's yeah they do sound. You sound like leaves and now. Here's the big wine. There's a big white. He didn't go to hawaii. Although the wanted list of lindsay did i don't no he didn't he didn't but he did have a french laundry dinner. Those missing in action. They are two and eddie offered at apology and then we got out. He lied because he did have endure. Debtor a door. There were no masks multiple households. Everyone bunched together. No social distancing. Sue many cohorts back here is part of him. Apologizing dinner for clinton is outdoor so took years old to a restaurant to go now. There we come head was sticking out on top of all the others. So this huge election of bob members to get this. We thank them all. I think people can't believe that this crowd is telling you to stay home i mean. Cbc just announced nobody should travel over. Thanksgiving group went to hawaii because they're not afraid they're host is a lobbying group of independent voter project which elects money from huge donors to try to influence these guys. Their power comes from scaring us by exaggerating. The risk they themselves are not afraid. They're not afraid of crowded restaurants indoors. They're not afraid of Bugging bunched up against each other shouting at each other's faces they're not afraid of airplanes. Hotel's luau 's none of they're not afraid. What does that tell you. They've been wildly exaggerating the risk to freight new. Because as long as you're frightened they can control you. It's going to sink in eventually to everybody. You'll see it's just taking a long time for people to get for those of you. Were listening at this time yesterday. And you'd like to share tom. Mcclintock terrific speech on the floor of the house of representatives. We do have a link on the webpage. Kfi am six forty dot com. Get to the john and ken page. And you'll see it there right near the top you can enjoy it play back. Send it to people. Tom was on the show earlier. I if you can hear that on the podcast. They post a podcast. Go to the top of the three o'clock hour and you'll hear him. He was he was in great for all right when we come back. It's time to finish up with another visit from our friends. The moist line people john and ken. Kfi john. ken show john kobylt. Ken chiampou kfi am six forty five everywhere on the iheartradio app. Oh exciting news. Took a look at the la county press release from the health department. Yes we got under five thousand cases today. That's the benchmark for trouble win five hundred. They're saying i see the pastathon is returning to kfi here. What neighborhoods of those happening. They don't provide that Brief this puppy chart you can look up. Yeah we had five in our neighborhood. But again i. I saw this to the road. There's a huge backup stadium dodger stadium all the people being tested. The testing is off the charts. I know what has to be. It is it's obviously because we've never seen lines like that night after night. All about thanksgiving people want to feel like. I wanna feel confident that it may not have covid. Even though thanksgiving is like a week away but right you could get it on monday. Tuesday or wednesday so it you could but what if you took a test today and then you're really extra extra careful until you stay. You can get it right at least you up until now anything. That ninety seven percent of the world is avoiding. Can't be so bad but you could get a false negative about the pastathon is back. It's here now. It's the tenth annual benefit caterina's club to help feed those kids twenty-five thousand every week and this year they've been feeding more than ever they've already reached a million a million meals this year. That usually takes until the end of the year. Donate right now at pastathon dot com stop in any smart and final store in california arizona and nevada and donate ten dollars at you check out. You can pasta sauce. Donations at the anaheim white house right now. Through december fourth. It's daily though between eight. Am and three pm so not right now but except thanksgiving day. You don't have to leave your car. They volunteers will take your collect your donation right from your car and then tune into kfi for special live streaming events Coming up after a december i i. Let's go moist line. Part to here they come to the week with this one. Eight seven seven voiced eighty six eight john and ken. We're so excited to hear from you. It's about time farmer prayer. You're not a doctor. Actually you only have a phd. You're not an md The munsters just called now. She's governor gavin. Newsom calling to apologize for not practicing. What crease so beginning. Today i will not be preaching against dining at the three hundred and ten dollars per person french laundry restaurant in the napa valley. And i will not be preaching against living in a three point. Seven million dollar twelve thousand square foot state on eight acres which six bedrooms ten bass where the guest home pool a tennis court and a wine cave california every time you talk about recall news of you guys don't do california learn your nothing but a bunch of wimps at newsom no like a bunch of off all right. Don't come moving. He can't fix euros now. I back to work all right. Nitwit news some answers this question. Why then are you going to spend a bag of tax money testing out a vaccine. The fda is already going to have tested third no reason they pack money on that a load of could kill all the politicians and bureaucrats seven after shutdown get covid. I dye my life. Di me alone governor news. Some three minute monologue down a lot less convincing than his original short apology. A copy of which i obtained via freedom of information act request. Sorry i guess. I'm just swick haired. Hypocritical really grind my un. Stop that winter. That stupid dinner and in very well. Now that he was breaking. Don't rule. I want to know how. Come joe biden thing that he needs to be briefed on what's happening with the corona virus. How distributed it when all through the campaign. He said that wave the white flag. He's giving up on the corona virus. The nobody's doing it then. Why does he want to use somebody. That was the photo putting together. His own corona virus. The why does he need the promised. Lining up taskforce guys clarify something for me. I'm i'm a real bright guy. But i'm trying to figure out how gavin newsom can have birthday parties outings. This family taxdeal shelters for any taxes on buying and selling houses and donating and yet. We can't do anything. And i'm curious how you can have a birthday party. It has yet. We can't have manley worker giving you the answer to that is what he is. Stop kidding me. Got a curfew. This weekend we gotta do is curfew. Newsom dude got his head so far up and he can't see daylight. Ken complaining about how not very come down to da party. Glory in the break them up got guys. Don't in the middle of the street at one in the afternoon cop. Don't come around a nobody in the neighborhood that i know that even come down with kogan this thanksgiving. I'm thankful that a media earth sixty six million years ago and killed off all the dinosaurs a long time. Since i've had anything to be thankful for th anyway happy thanksgiving america. Thank you for leaving your message. Please fats for the bleeps me to put it. Yeah it was. It was rough both them. Speaking a rough here comes that deng going with you guys. What an intro man. Look at you guys. I'm gonna hit you with a dingo early right. We have dr krupp coming on. He is the director of the griffith observatory and a lot of people are talking about this because everyone's distracted by the election but a week ago. There's a me right. It was the size of a like an suv and it whiz by earth within a couple of hundred miles huge disaster. Yeah i but it missed. Yeah it ms but man oh man you know the they should see that coming you know and let us know to get under the way the desk or whatever it is. There's going to be and then we also have a guy named chris who has owns a pasta place. He's donated two thousand pounds a ton of pasta for caterina's club pasta one crazy and then huntington beach. This is going to be which probably will feed ten thousand. Kids are one. Steve gregory and then we'll have steve gregory on later tonight to respond to that that'll be no and then there's this is going to be trouble but in huntington beach people are gathering for a protest against the curfew and it starts on the pier saturday night at ten to one day And armed county sheriff's will not be arresting now and neither will la county. I don't know who's arresting anybody. There is huntington beach police right. 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What Did you need to hear your father say?

Fatherhood Friday’s

18:34 min | 3 weeks ago

What Did you need to hear your father say?

"Stopped this is your data at the leppings point apparition tool de la tour over computer your to her stop. Five breaker already mcclintock everything. Every you need to touch in your pocket to pay was your anchor life next fatherhood. Fridays season for. Y'all can you can hear you loud. Glen just excited excited this week. man i been trying to get this brother on air. Well i can tell you for sure that there are no perfect parents and you know i think one of the biggest challenges i think promotes the dads in general. Is that parenting. You sense it. It's one of the most critical rose that you're gonna play in life so far What's cracking what's pop in. What's going down. You are now tuned in to father. Who friday season for with your host as always trauma not to to give it to you through my iphone. You guessed it. Eight plus could have been a ten. But you know. That's what i'm working with right now. Hope everyone is doing well as you're listening to today's latest episode on friday. I'm doing good despite what happened in the election. I'm doing good despite. What's happening in america. Despite what's happening in my personal life because like kamara cover practice told me it's not happening to you. It's happening for you think about that. It's not happening to you. it's happening for you. That that puts a whole nother perspective on life. But i digress. It's not about me today. But it's about thinking it's about reflecting as want to reflect on that quote. I just said a few seconds ago. And what are we reflecting. Well i know. I'm reflecting on right now. Today's topic and it's going to be a little bit different than than what i usually do them. Not interviewing anybody Not having a topic of conversation That you typically lanes are ears to what i'm doing is reflecting on a post that a friend of mine from podcast call a father heard by marcus greek. He posted on social media a few months ago. When you look back at your child what you need to hear from your father and he posted this a few months ago. But i'm reflecting on it now. Because when i read through some of those responses those comments i it was like wow and so as men as follows as you're listening to this episode so you're going to hear some real answers now. I'm not going to give away the names of who said what but we have to know that we have to get off our high horse humble ourself and sometimes ask our kids. What exactly do you need from me. Sometimes we think that we know what we think we need from them. We know what we need to do as a father but sometimes are are inside off. Foresight can be all and so. I'm going to read some of these comments that my friend mark is great and i even responded to and i'll save minds for the end some of these comments frame markets bridge from father her. Check out the podcast that he posed the question. All social media. When you look back at your childhood and i'm gonna even say adulthood would did you need to hear from your father and i'm just gonna say discount from a man or woman then i'm gonna read their comments so let's go back to the question. What do you back on your childhood or slash adulthood. What did you need to hear from your father One guy wrote don't let money or religion. Be the reason you give up on your aspiration pursue your dream no matter what. The opposition says that comes from a guy The next one. And i'm gonna read the question again when you look back at your child Slash adult who would do. What did you need to hear. What do you need to hear from your father and this comes from a woman that i would stop drinking for my family next one. When you look back at your childhood would did you need to hear from your father your worth it when you look back at your childhood. What do you need to hear from. Your father is comes from another woman. Tell me about yourself. And the one that said you're worth of that comes from a woman to when you look back at your child. Who would do you need to hear from your father. I love you no matter what. Here's a reply from a guy when you look back at your childhood. What did you need to hear from your father. I needed to hear that. He was proud of me. Even when i wasn't proud of myself now we're going to a guy when you look back at your child. Who would did you need to hear from your father that i will put your knees before mine. It would be a live. But that's what i needed to hear. Wow you look back at your childhood would did you need to hear from your father. Another woman i love you. I'm sorry for the pain. I have caused you. Wow this is getting deep from another guy. When you look back at your child who would did. You need to hear from your father son. Follow me. I will teach you how to be a man right from a woman when you look back at your childhood. Did you need to hear from your father. I will protect you. And i mean these comments can mean so many things to so many different people But these are real communists. Here's another one from guy When you look back at your child who would. Did you need to hear from your father. Jesus is lord. Wow ooh i like it when you look back at your childhood. What did you need to hear from your father. I'm sorry. I didn't apologize or mid my faults as as a family man and it really messed me up. Later later in life comes from a man when you look back at your child would do you need to hear from your father fortunate. You have a great father. Even though i will be will lose me at the age. Nineteen another one then. This this comment ended up with over twenty posts. So i'm marie all of them. And i just want you guys fellas to just sit back and reflect on some of these post as you think about your own kids. Step kids or grandkids. Or what have you when you look back at your child would. Did you need to hear from your father. Everyone makes mistakes. It's okay to cry when you are sad. I got your back. i love you man. This is deep to me. This can go on so many different ways when you look back at your childhood. What did you need to hear from your father. Tell the truth work. Really hard and below to those you love. I'm beyond fortunate to have all these. Have all of those messages from my mazing dad. I miss him every day. When you look back at your child who would did. You need to hear from your father. Another one that he would stop drinking for his family. When you look back at your childhood what did you need to hear from your father the truth when you look back at your childhood would you need to hear from your father. I love you. And i'm proud of you and your accomplishments i put well. Let me read the question when you look back at your childhood would did you need to hear from your father. I love you man. And i put myself on the air myself out. It's not that my father didn't say i love you. But i think looking back on it i probably would have liked to hear it more often. If you look back at your childhood would you need to hear from your father. Security and protection comes from a woman. When you look back at your father would did you need to hear from your father is if i may him proud with not only the man i have become but also for the family i have created. Okay okay back to the question when you look back at your child who would you need to hear from your father and this is a loaded question. I don't know when you look back at your childhood. What did you need to hear from your father. That i was the apple of his eye or lots of talk about high. Mansur love you. Lots of illustrative of him loving forgiving in helping my mom too stressful moments. And i'm going to stop right there so father's humble ourselves. We have to ask our kids. What do you need from me. Sometimes as men we always think we have. The answer will always look into fix things. But i challenge you to ask your kids whether they're young whether they're teenagers or even adults would. Do you need to hear from me. What can how. Can i serve you because you would be surprised. Just like these comments what they would say or what they would need. Never assume what a person needs but come humbly and ass. What do you need because some of these comments. And i didn't even read all of them were amazing and deep and make you wanna cry and make you celebrate it. Make you wanna question like this last one. When you look back at your childhood would did you need to hear from your father's comes from the women more verbal i love you. I'm making up for lost time now as an adult. So this is not a long episodes but this is an episode of election of how we can be better as fathers to our kids to our nieces and nephews to our grandchildren. If we have grandchildren and really humbling ourselves. Like i said it before finding out. What do they need from us in the moment of triumph in the moment tragedy in a moment of tribulation. Whatever moment it is what do they need to hear from you. At that moment so that they can know that they can go through that they can push through whatever challenges or whatever triumph or or celebration going through. This has been another episode of fatherhood. Fridays before i go As always continue to follow me on social media mall. Facebook instagram twitter. You can also check my episodes out on facebook and youtube for those of view that can't find anchor. Fm dot com backslash fatherhood. Fridays can now go to my facebook page. And listen or you can go to youtube and type and fatherhood. Fridays look for the white background logo. You'll know when you see it and listen to my episodes on youtube or any Social media platform. 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They'll make a donation to my cash at charmer williams. It would be appreciated if you don't wanna do that. Most importantly subscribe or follow work. Can you subscribe you. Describe apple podcasts. You can follow on spotify while the six other podcasts platforms stitcher breaker bullhorn. Cashbox catalogs pocket podcasts. Radio public Name six but were there. There's a podcast platform. You can follow me that way you can get weekly episodes that come out last banalities if you know someone needs to hear this episode copy and paste the link from wherever you see it and send it to someone that might need to hear. This has been another episode of fatherhood. Fridays thank you for joining me this week and continue to think about what you when you look back on your life as a child or even an adult would do you. Or what did you need to hear from your father or your dad signing off. Talk to you next week. And here's a sneak peek into next week's fatherhood friday episode. I have a huge message behind the brand as fars of course There's something a model that i go by. As far as be a legend in your own time and it's something that i believe that god gave everybody a purpose. A god given purpose that we are all supposed to be a legend in our own time right now.

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Time Capsule Episode 149

Sci-Fi Talk Time Capsule

39:10 min | 3 months ago

Time Capsule Episode 149

"Hi. This is time capsule episode one, Forty Nine and I'm Tony Tomato. Hiding Justin Hartley. Gemini? Division I'm Michael. Shanks of starting s one Pablo. My name is Chris Donna Logan. Rock the S o'bannon creator of alienated and Farscape James then from desperate housewives and all star Superman Hey, it's Greg Greg. The mind reading cop on heroes an IMC three. Po Human Cyborg relations. Name. High Angel Koby and I take one of it and then hi, this is billy boy I plead pippen and load up the rings and you're listening Sifi talk wrong and prosper. Welcome again to another edition and the Spring Film Festival has arrived the weather's getting nicer and filmmakers are toting their wares. It seems that indie films have picked up the slack from studios who seemed to crank out sequel upon sequel I love a good comic book movie. Believe me I do, but there's just so much more to film making these days. And here is any McClintock from the roundtables. House this also. I'm joined. It's Kinda like it's Kinda like the mall off. The Green, Mile Yes. It's kind of like. Last time, but I'll come back. You know I'll be back. Ten year reunion maybe we'll do. Were hostile to. I know people have talked about doing the two. Plus I'M GONNA come in sign. Sign. In the signing next year. That's one of the things warehouse thirteen. Has Given us. An opportunity to go and Meet the fans and make a few shekels and Travel, the world and. It's been pretty good. I got no complaints. I'm sure it felt like leaving good friends behind i. Have spent more tom these people in the last five years I've. Many of my family members. I sister lives in Florida. My Dad lives in Arizona and. San Diego. They have become my family. Not Be Cliche but it just you can't you can't. Help it. Spend fifteen hours a day five days a week from nine months with these people under these circumstances. You you either figure out a way to love one another or you just you you'll hate it too. I mean tens of not to be a whole lot of middle ground but it's one of those things were you know joining? The bug, each other a lot. I bought her more than. Me But it just that's what happens you know and but at the end of the day. If anyone would mess with me or if I needed help. be, their minced as would any of these people leave so What are you GonNa do what can you tell us about what's coming up? For. The last round that. We have six episodes. Were kind of squeezing. A lot into. A short period of time. have to learn about eight pages of Spanish. In one episode Mike An audience trapped in a Telenovela. And Pete turns into a character called off. And I've got this job. Happen to make me this giant. Moustache. That I'm going to have like a crust Kelvin. Vest. My chest hair stick it out and it's going to be very sexy rate but it should be so much fun and. Jacks cutting the. season. Premiere. He says it's so you know great and bonding I mean I'm just relaxed. You know it's kind of like. It's it's. It's there's no other reason to be anywhere. You know we're not worried about ratings. You're on the air you just like, okay. Well, what we were a ratings, you know it doesn't matter. We know where we're going and so I've just been having fun. More fun. The usual. Imagine that he talks about the series finale. I I said to Jock. When I found out that was going to be out for us and I saw Jack, I was like so what happens do we all die or you're GONNA kill US explode warehouse GonNa Blow Up. The world blow off what's going to happen to us I did all that. You know. It's GonNa. Be I. Wish I could tell you. When he told me I started like almost try on the phone just from his. Because it's so. It's so right on and so. Tastefully. On. And it gives all of us an opportunity to kind of sad goodbyes to the warehouse to the fans. To each other. It's brilliant I the guys Jack. Kennedy are executive officers is. I just think he's brilliant. So one of the things you did that was so special show was. You mentioned Telenovela the video. The film noir. I. Mean. It was just you really stretch the boundaries of you guys. Pulled it off every single on. Thank you. That was amazing I. think that's kind of what's special about the show. I feel badly because I think they're still more stories to be told. By the warehouse. That can be fun but. I appreciate a and that was it was always fun for me to show up and go. We do what? In the net like? I mean. You know whether whether. We're saving the world or were in Nuwara trapping new on novel or you know Rico Tony's there or capable crews my mom you know. Jerry Ryan, my ex wife. She seven of nine, I mean I grew up going Oh. I just turn on that show. I. Wouldn't even I would turn the volume down just a way. And then sudden she's playing my. Wife was like when I met her I was like you don't realize my my my street drug just went up tenfold. Because of you. It's been. It's been great. was there one episode that you had the most amount of fun on? I gotTa Tell Ya the season opener here that we just did as I said I mean, I just was so loose to the point where. Jackson. I mean I was having a blast and. There's some really great funny moments in the season opener and some great serious moments too like Gosh. And I just? We just filmed this serious this great moment to impede Mike and I think it's the best moment they've had together since the season began and. It's nice to be able to share that with Joanne. She's my my buddy and what is he looking forward to see at COMECON? I mean I'm really excited to see Godzilla. I got I got after I saw shark. NATO. Now. I was actually a few weeks ahead of the curve. I love. Sharks. I I love old side fine movies you know like I love. Universal horror characters. Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein Marvel Comic Books. The incredible hall scene. You know stuff like that. I've never thought again always bugs me when you see some. Uber Beautiful Person. That's got it together and they're like, Oh, I am such a Geek. Geeky. Shut up. Okay but I mean I guess I I never thought of myself is that but but I guess now that I know that the nomin closer of the conventions I guess. I guess I qualify in some some areas like I've I've never worn a peak at costume. But. I wouldn't. I wouldn't say I'd never. There's more Sifi Talk. So stay tuned. Hi folks in a spotlight is usually a we've been trying to do this on a monthly basis, but it's hard with our schedules but I have with me Tim Byers from Motley Fool, and also Justin verlander from like Dot Com? and. Guys you know we gotta talk about What's what's happening on the television landscape to kick things off. The end of the walking dead You know we talked about it on our show and a little bit but. Have you had a chance to digest said episode little bit more. Yeah. It's a really powerful thing and this is one of those things where the walking that does a good job of fouling. or at least he's you know revealing itself to be inspired by the comic, not following it. That classic end scene where Rick Sort of reveals himself or you know just how rude will be is reminiscent of the comics, but it isn't the same exact seen. So at least a mystery up in the air here, the readings isn't very strong and I have to say. I'm not sure if it's television history guys by I can't remember another show that's gone through three show runners and they'll kill it the way this. I, mean quite literally in some cases, but you know. Yeah absolutely I mean and right now Scott capable demand. He he did a hell of a job in the fourth season. Well, your dog has an opinion justice but what about you? Probably live on the would there's all kinds of Nature Action Golfing on club it always fascinated by. The. I definitely enjoyed this season. had. Pretty High. Note. there were a couple of Lulls as far as. I know you guys disagree with me but I thought that I would say that in terms of a little bit quicker my I'm dealing with all eight episodes of them parts I mean we. Come across each other a little bit sooner and then perhaps. You know then getting locked up in the in the training if that was the second to last episode and then we would have gotten a little bit more of A. Action. The episode in the family I think that would have been more in in my case but I wasn't disappointed. Leaves there was some pretty powerful episodes I talked about that with the little girl that was a very humble. And, even the Union of the finale when when it starts with Rick, with his all one hundred miles and they're like, well, what happened to this I and when Happened, you know that's It's just one of those things where there are worst things in the world than than Walker and and the human element is pretty brutal. For are pretty evil out there and then they came across it pretty. GNARLY. In it was. Pretty intense gonNA live. Like that harsh. Ask Carl in the and. I not I. Don't know where that was going. Tell you that's the thing to me. The real horror is not. The walkers themselves they don't scare me as much is what human beings can do to each other though in the worst circumstances, and this is showing us at our very, very worst and. That's the part that's really scary and. The gang that Darryl falls into is probably the cream of the crop of the worst although I think terminus might have taken it up a notch so Not a very hopeful season this year as far as the the tone definitely much more of a Downer but but made for some good drama and we touched upon it to character development was very, very solid. A buddy watching the two and harvest probably the show is real joy be found. and. I think part of him, just want to see some kind of light at the end of the tunnel and. Doesn't That happened so much the season. Than Solitaire one horrible thing. When there are light thing you notice like for example, at the beginning of the season, I mean because what you said Tony had you remember I think opening this season they said it was I can't remember the first part of it but part of the slogan was fear the living your yeah. No, it does get back to that and there is this those light moments are they're very hard to come by this show generally particularly season for and they tend to be these moments where. They're in flashbacks for they have to be teasers. and lead in something just terrible. So like in this last episode, Rick Is Remembering back better times when he is I starting Peach Carl Garden because you seen see if Carl keeps going down with path, he's going he's going to be full-fledged psychopath and no rick starts trying you know divert him from that course and so they you know they become gardeners and rick put his gun for a little while and so as these you know shitting, they're just covered in blood and something clearly awful has happened being remembering the. Times which, of course, in this world, those simpler times are guarding a prison that really. A metaphor for just how awful it is. Yeah. You can have like a lot of hope with Glenn and all the sign that Maggie that you know hey, go determinist just like. The that's written in blood and guts, but it brings. Sunshine here, Pain Right Oh I just went counts for hope in the role. Of the law of the walking dead. Yeah. No it was neat too because they actually ended up going back to the prison and they shot all the stuff at the flashbacks they brought back Herschel came back and they shot all that at the end of the season. So that's the last thing they shot all the comstock. And KINDA got the mayhem out of the way and actually I think the the entire cast paw posed for a picture on the prison grounds. You know with. With Herschel so that you know they had like a little remembrance of that season a little bit. And that's the thing that it proved was that Herschel was such a great sounding board for Rick and would help steer him wrong and he's lost that and although maybe is that's what they need right now especially in the railroad car to get out is to have the. The the go wild rick rather than the more comrex up. And they have that there is that turn and the the walking dead at least in the comic and the TV show I think guys jeans to near that it has. It's not static. He goes from the points where an oftentimes signify by Rick nother one of the characters where. It either goes completely insane. And they have to go insane in order to survive. Or they're like, okay. Now we need to try and come back. We need to find regain our unanimity and there's the arc where they try to regain their humanity and now looks like heading into the next season it is. Well we're we're going to go down into place you haven't. Seen before and let's see if you can hang with us. Right. Darkness thing you know becoming an animal survived the whole. Way. What is it going to take? Yeah. Yeah. We've seen examples of what other people have you know would have come to that. That line and how they've crossed it and how You know it's the whole central theme, the comic and the series is losing your humanity due to the circumstances you know when we? As bad as they are, if you know if we are not human anymore in a sense design. Or Walkers Luster. And we're losing it a bit at a time dealing in that harsh world. Also, it's very powerful theme. It really echoed this year which really I thought was the strong point I still say as I said on our video podcast. Or hang out that I think this is a strong season walking dead's ever had by the numbers. You're totally right and you know. If. You look at the numbers that that season four finale. GonNa, get it. I don't think need to get it quite right but I thought it was up twenty seven percent. Year over year. Phenomenal. It mirrors the other great dramas. We we've seen on on different channels. So you know that there is clearly a real. Hunger as it relates to the walking dead but it does seem like there is a real hunger for this type of. Very even very visceral. Very intense drama. What's interesting too is I thought the emergence of Daryl this season. If you look at twitter, there is tweets about Darrell all day long in Norman Reedus I mean they're both connected. You know he I. I mentioned to him at comic con a few years ago. That one scene where he was. You know seeing his brother and how he just nailed it and and you know he's seeing his brother in like almost LEICA. HALLUCINATE Hoosen area. Way. And how he nailed that he kinda brings almost like this Charles Bronson qualities in character. But with a good dose of sensitivity and that's what I think people respond to. You've seen this guy go from really kinda bad ass to really having a soul and I thought that's what people have hooked into. So it's amazing his arc so far and I'm dying to see what they do. I'm with you I think that. It's it's funny that you know when we were talking about it rick is going down to you know dark places that he can go but doesn't like to go and Darryl has been in the worst situation. It's in dark places, and now it takes the world's going entirely to hell to. Bring him into the light. It's just the that's the. Irony it's really It's a nice touch. Another you know the we've mentioned it in our video a a game of thrones has come back strong set a record, and even crashed the HBO site. I mean this is a show that's It's really amazing for a pay-per-view view channel. You know or know subscription based channel to have a series that is so successful like this And obviously, people are watching it other than subscribers otherwise, it probably would be as. No doubt and I mean you guys will have to remind the here but you think the opening episode I alive plus same day ratings or six point six, million viewers my that was up huge or around four point four. In season three and the I tunes store season three they. Never releases. Same season episodes or even season passes to prime or I tunes or any of those other services where you can buy it. It'll versions of June they just don't do it saint season. So when I tunes started putting, you know they they release their their updated. Charts I think it's once every week and I told the numbers and season three game of thrones out selling season for the walking dead. Bear, walking that it just end it. Could fairly say that a lot of people who bought had already done they're buying, and so these people are like gearing up for you know season for like catch up by still. You know hdl has use numbers for. Game of thrones so good in fact that you know like you said wrote the servers the most tired it's show in television. It's incredible. Yeah Right. You know it's unfortunate that shows. The promos or is you know they just think they were much earlier and you think that maybe if the fun of Ron Right now it might be one of those shows doing the same thing I probably like wedding like a nineteen, ninety, nine or something like that. We have these amazing tools now that the Washington show on the go like this and I just have to believe that you know something like the products paved the way for for shows like game of thrones and detective to where we go HBO are. Uneasy. Dramas there. That's not on like NBC anymore or ABC or whatever now at Sunday night's. Hbo Bringing you know what I mean. Yeah. That's really cool. It does look like This is I mean we're in the franchise era of both TV and movies and HBO to their credit. You know they have some franchises ending like boardwalk empire is saying. There's something else that that's ending on HBO this year Oh true true. Well Yeah. You know to their credit knowing that this nothing's going away they just signed two more seasons or for a game throw are GonNa go through season five and season six. You wonder how? Soon they're going to catch up the George R R Martin although. He. Just didn't release a chapter of the winds of winter. He's got you both left to right. So I think it's fairly clear that you know the winds of winter is GonNa be out. Sooner rather than writer. Yeah. Probably very close to done with that. So. The show runner have an idea where. I Williams terribly offended if if the series where to catch up and and so the end before the book, they would not I wouldn't be like you know. Like that. APP What's interesting is I remember in the late seventies? When? When cable started coming into vogue and everything and how the networks where the strong ones and cable programs like let's cable there there's there's learning they don't know what they're doing yet. And how the tide has totally turned its the networks haven't kept up to to what the advances that cable has made, and you know the big three aren't so big anymore and you know. They're they're losing the battle and eventually. they're just not going to be around anymore the way things are going. The only thing that keeps them afloat frankly is the sports contracts. You know that's really it the live sports otherwise they'd be in a world of hurt without that like Netflix and they're killing it. I don't know where I would be if I wasn't watching the cards when it came back on Valentine's Day I like I was ready to Binge Watch. Thirteen. Amazing. Hours of. Overtime team orange is the new black same thing and now if he's marvel shows Comey forget about I'm way more in in in that Likley than anything else that's on right now is the rare it's UC sign that the networks are learning a little. I don't think it's it's entirely clear but at least I give NBC some credit because they're experimenting with programs that I don't think we would've seen on broadcast. TV A few years ago I think we all have we talked about it and I think We all agree to blacklist destroying. It's just a great show Graham, is a signature program for them. I mean, it only airs Friday nights which one of their it it's one of their top time slots but still you know that's a good show. It has a great following and you know uh on the other off timeslots NBC is finding ways to get into genre programming and then dominating in those broadcast timeslots that are sort of off hours that you know CBS ABC has sort of given up on. And with quality programming, they're coming in and just kill like you gotta who does to person of interest to that has been one of the most solid. That's a good run. You're right about that. is a really excellent idea person of interest of curious Yeah. It's like a it was like it starts off like a cop show. and then when the computer starts talking to him I, go oop they just turned the corner John Russia. But. To Great. Lead actors. Jim Caviezel really has had a film career and Michael Emerson is just good and everything he's taught. And to be able to I mean. He see he has created somebody's so far away from Ben Linus loss. You know. I don't even see Michael Emerson I. See this guy you know and it's really amazing I. mean the guy should be winning. emmys right and left he is so under appreciated but he he's amazing they both really help carry the show with really good supporting cast. So yeah, that's a that's another one but. There aren't too many of those around, but the blacklist is another one you mentioned. So yeah, there's a few gems but I'd say if you WanNa find the best of the best it's it's cable. Yeah. I think I I agree with that and streaming I. Mean we're. There are numerous. Companies now that are backing original programming I mean you question their motivations and why they're doing it whether it's out of desperation or not putting real money into programming that chance to do? Well. So the one that I and curious about I'm not gonNA say excited yet because it's been so many. Fits and starts, but on the playstation network, I am very curious to see what they do a live action powers. These bill. beat the amazing. It's certainly something that. A lot of interest in over the years. Box Kinda, you know doodles around with it and they couldn't get it done. So not your come Sony and I mean, let's hope they. They do something amazing it. It certainly has. The core elements to be great he doesn't to be dark, but it could be. It's A. property. You imagine if. Either playstation or xbox one network if they were to have something like defiance or the game would tie into a game almost seamlessly go from one to another I mean if sci-fi would have done it that way it would blow everything out of the water I. Mean. Granted the writing isn't maybe. where it should be to really nail people like the walking dead, but it would attract gamers in a way that you would never think and it's just a matter of. You know obviously with. Either Narnia established Franchisee or something like in the Halo Universe for people genuine they flocked to it. Out. Because if you start a new property in Vail. A fine, for example. And then they'll yeah people you'll pay to play it. And we started a subscription model and world of warcraft. Dominated the, mo.. Be Over for years to come close Star Wars ranking read only other. Gain Kilgore's. no-one they have nearly the. Jim Bait that have lizard has while the worker. Yeah, I mean it sits I. Think we're seeing yet another shift. You might say that this could be the new cable that's coming up and using the Internet to to get the programming to people is is very, very strong so we'll see Series that are on cinema yeah. Yeah. They have a lot of good work on the. Fan Films of any becomes kind of web series and it's funded low countries especially when they're all available. I mean look at what's happened in other. I completely agree with that and we've seen more evidence of transcending from the web onto cable TV supporter example in Chris Hardwick over at nervous, which is not only does he go onto to talk dead? Yeah. Partially to talking bad then pitches comedy central and now we have at midnight. Yes. A really funny. You know night you know late night show then you have beaten. Doing essentially I don't have the specific on this Tony this is more in your. You know Kinda wheelhouse, but it sounds like it's going to be a talks style show on sci Fi that that he will host. that's interesting and I think that was born out of necessity tabletop on he could sundry on the usage never it's interesting but both those gentlemen. Know will end. Also Chris. Have you know Chris was on talk soup and will, of course, Star Trek and They both have kind reinvented themselves. You now is these. Pioneers or the face of geeked them. You might say as a matter of fact, rolling stone article on Chris Hardwick King, of the GEEKS or king of the nerds something like that. So I mean we'll show is it a in reaction to to to Chris Heart? Yeah because they're sci-fi tried to get Chris Harvick right now they probably couldn't afford. But we'll doesn't have anything else. That's know that's pending right now at least for now he's available. So yeah, you have to jump on that and he has a fan base and he is respected in the community. Now they're no longer angry at him when he was on next generation throwing stuff, it's division every time Wesley crusher when appear he's totally gone in a totally different direction. So yeah, I think he'd be perfect talk show that's been something that Saifi should have done years ago they tried something called Scifi Buzz. And it was hosted by a guy who knew nothing about science fiction and they surrounded them with younger people that would report on different stories. But everything they were covering. You know even before it was before the Internet took off even at that time the stories were like old hat and weren't anything new or groundbreaking. So it's like they tried it. Before, and now like an entertainment variety type of a show so I think getting will is a good step in that direction. But you know I'm sure he'll at, he'll bring his ideas to it and certainly hoping that he brings some of the Geek and sundry folks with him along to you know popping in and out occasionally would be really cool. Yeah. And lastly guys You know it looks like like Marvel and DC, are pretty much all out war coming in twenty sixteen where Batman versus, Superman and. Captain America through you're going to go head on directly and it looks like both sides don't WanNa budgen change the date like a lot of other studios have done. This is the first time that two major major movies are actually going against each other and they're also or comic. Book. Franchises to what's your feeling on that I think it's great. I think often because I like the idea of you. Know, movies hand I don't think Captain America Whatever Back Down I certainly don't. DIG Now ever down I plan on seeing both the same day assuming that they go through with it then you know. One day you know I have to say I it. There is the fan boy in me who wants to go get you know the you know like some custom made T. shirt that has ended superman facing off against capital or GonNa. You know just wear that the double feature day you know because that does sound like you know the angels chorus from the haven't sky opens up and we're all just asking the great glorious seeing two major franchises in one day. But on the other and you know from the perspective, which is you know kind of what I do I. Think it's terrible for more may it might not choose to meet terrible but it's at the very least. It's a huge risk and it's even riskier. Now given the numbers we're getting on cats in America the winter soldier which we were just talking about has destroyed. I mean it. It's a great film. It's very fun. It's incredibly well orchestrated and we already know so anthony and Joe Russo did a great job. If this really thrilled audiences got an ace cinema score, it's more than three hundred, billion worldwide and we're only through the opening weekend here in the. This looks like it has like to get six hundred million, maybe as much as seven, hundred, million worldwide before it's done and we get you know the next crop of comic shells and may you know frankly that means that and and this is going to be talking America Three's going to be a tight sequel. You know without spoiling it it ends but you know there's some significant things that need to be developed. That aren't developed the winter soldier and you know that's coming in the next one. You know they're going to address it because Anthony and Joe Russo are going to be back to Iraq did they started writing it last year? So? I think Warner. Faces. A huge. Barrier. You know to introducing a film that already has some built in challenges because it's you know the cast and you know you're introducing that man or just wonder woman you have lots of challenges to overcome to begin with, and now you gotta face againsts cats to that. Man. Yeah, absolutely, and honestly to there are. There is a group of people out there that work. Happy with manifield. I'm not sure those same people would rather go to think in America over them. And you know that whatever happens. That even if Disney and warner publicly deferential to each other and talking about how it's such a great time Jonah and fans. We're all in business. We're all in various parts of the I can guarantee that one or more of us is going to have somebody off the record or unattributed. What I mean you know elbowing us this way or that way about look at how we did and how we want and there'll be jockeying the record no matter what they say public career. And it's probably going to happen all three of us. I would I would add. It's possible. It's possible. This is an all out war and Yeah. Well, that's her off I. Mean, it's just Man. Whatever? Happens happen? Yeah. That's. The Saga continues with you know and I'm. And Warner's is like throwing you know nuggets out with nude casting almost on a weekly basis lately and. And and we'll see we'll see we'll have more. On the ever continuing saga DC versus marvel. So we'll see guys thank you so much for being part of the show again and can't wait for the next time again, it's always fun at our. We do our everything course it's available on my youtube channel. Again Justin Kavingere from great website IGE LEGACY DOT COM. He has a podcast with his buddies that you should be listening to from that site and Tim as you heard he has great insights out Motley fool dot com on the business side and how it affects us geeks on the emotional and financial side. So he somebody that definitely keep track with. And follow both of them on twitter to hi guys. Thanks so much again and and it's always a pleasure. Sir. All right take care guys that's episode. One, forty, nine of time capsule. This is Tony. Tomato. Thanks for listening. Hi, this is Gina Hey. I plays then investigate. Victor Website mutant x hi I'm Tony Dollah I play masturbate tack I'm Stargate S G one high and Timothy's on. This is Tim from Star Trek Voyager. This is Ted Ramey from xena Warrior Princess. I'm in become from middle us. I'm Lavar Burton. My name is Ernie Anatolia John Billingsley I played Dr Flocks on enterprise. You're listening to the wonderful Sifi Talk I, heartily endorse your attendances listener ever. Thank you.

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Warehouse 13 Season 5

Sci-Fi Talk: The First Season

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Warehouse 13 Season 5

"The. That ban is Ethan. Phillips from Star Trek Voyager. Mark Pellegrino Jacob from law and birth super. Naturally. This Katie Sacra? I'm Michael. Service the. Observer from fringe and Jebediah Loeven from stake land and you're listening to sci-fi. Talk Welcome to my warehouse thirteen season five special. The series is down to just a few episodes. It completes its run on Scifi. You might say that it's forever tied to Eureka as the two series that help rebrand the network, and now they both will become part of history. This was recorded that roundtables at San Diego Comic Con past summer last ones that they'll be doing as the cast of warehouse thirteen. They all knew this was their last season and they only had six more episodes left. Starting us off is saw Rubin who plays Artie last? Yes it is. Yeah it's. It's very bittersweet very sad. Very sweet about it. Another sees. Ask He looks back on a memorable role. He had on Stargate S. G. It wasn't supposed to be a two episode show on Stargate. It was it was written as one and I thought it was going to get cut back but the to hand it to those brilliant writers and show runners they really liked. Certainly. For that episode, they stretched the box out now after you know and I I wasn't used to conventions and I started going to conventions and After comecon especially, Eddie and I went around to a whole bunch of different. He's gone to more than me and that's where I run into a lot of fans die hard fans not all diehard fans go to conventions but certainly they'd see. Photograph from. Stargate and I didn't have one and they said we should get one because that's a great character. We begin to realize that the character and what he was doing, which was I somebody who was you know look like they were GonNa Trash the military and then ended up honoring them especially it was also the death of a very famous very well loved character. But also the relationship. what I was assuming the relationship between. The press and the military in the free press in an open society and how difficult that is and how important it is and. That was that was really exciting. Those really great about. Going from there into short like warehouse thirteen was much more a much more comic show obviously because our show runner. Comes from that world but also gave us an opportunity to talk about full range of issues whether it was sexual orientation or whether it was a politics censorship free. Well, a lot of issues got dealt with through warehouse thirteen, I. I've I've had a lot of experience during doing sci-fi, and that's one of the great things about about side and that's one of the great things about doing science fiction. As you guys all know better than me who is there a social issue that you wish they could have addressed on warehouse thirteen? No I mean. A. Wish we had another three or four seasons in us. We did. You know I think. I'll things come to an end, but the show wasn't wasn't reaching a natural conclusion. Sort happens on five seasons is awesome and who can complain about one of the great roles I've ever played. But not dealt with a lot of things I knew we were going to deal with a lot more but you know we don't have as actors a one life I mean, it also is maybe time to move on play other things. My daughter was just. Going College my son was just about to go into high school math. She's graduated college. He's going to college. It's GonNa Lifetime five years ago long time and and unusual for somebody who's as old as I am is dead as many things as I. Am I've never been a series for more than eat while I was a recurring character and frazier for a couple of years but that was the longest I've ever been in a series. So this whole new. thing for me and. Very, fortunately, incredibly pleasurable and I know that I know the Jack and I are going to be working together. We've already got plans to do something and and I've got brothers and sisters in in in the cast and Allison's like another daughter for me. It's been a wonderful experience and the thrill of coming here was all over Wyoming. I'm not a crowd kind of person but the very first time we were here we only had three episodes on the air. We were just introducing Claudia and that over the reaction to the fence, even before we knew we were a big hit show was overwhelming and. It's it's been a great ride and you guys have helped spread the word. So we're grateful to you guys to it's been A. been a favorite among people for for for good reason, and we have nothing but gratitude, it's very hard to feel too sad about something that was so successful, are you satisfied with the ending of the series? The ending is I have two words about it it's surprising. And inevitable. It is it is both at the same time couldn't it's incredibly moving I must have teared up but five times. And Laugh out loud as many times reading the final script, the final episode which everything leads to. Is An extraordinary achievement in writing? We haven't shot yet. So I don't know how we're going to do but but knowing our group I think we'll do it justice in. We had a chance to kind of understand A. The parties. Journey into. Every season, I, do you know I mean I I really did last season because it was a twenty episode season and one of my oldest and best friends Brent spiner, and I were doing a two hander for the first part of season for and that was a really great thing. And and it was a very dark journey for already to come through the death of of a major in love character and it was a and you know it really challenging when they wanted to write something challenging for. Had to step back. In fact, there was one scene in that episode where I had to remember, I had to improvise the entire journey of that whole season before he really goes dark. It's been professionally. Not Something I was. Really expecting a lot of movies, a lot of guest stars on on shows I've directed four films I'm. Writing I've written a lot. I'm going back to directing and writing I wasn't expecting At the age of whatever I was when that happened fifty nine or something that when I got this role that I would end up with such a great role that would last. So long I wasn't expecting it so it goes to show you. That you never know and maybe the next thing. Is going to be wonderful to a very optimistic ridiculously optimistic person and I have a great marriage of a great family I'm really blessed fellow. What is it that you will miss the most on the series you know I'm GonNa. Miss most is what any actor will tell you show is the family that we've created. It's it's the everyday laughs you know I mean I've done a lot of variety of work as already. It's fun to play already. It's not what I'm GonNa Miss I'M GONNA. Miss already but maybe the fans might miss that character because so much of me as. Any, any long-term show, the writers right you or they're making a mistake and they've written a lot of me in there. I'm GonNa Miss that family you know not too much. I'm going to you know be close to every but I'm going to see everybody and hope to work on other things with them but it's that family it happens in theater. You. Know in a way and a lot of actors who do theater we'll tell you this that what you what you find when you're young actor and you're starting usually in theater you're not making. Stakes are just as high this you know several zeroes on the end of your paycheck. But what you? Miss. What you get. Is that family then what you do as you get older? No matter who you are I don't care if you're. Johnny Depp Brad Pitt. You look to recapitulate that family feeling in one way or another whether you're powerful enough to create it as a producer and get a group of people around you that that create that you cannot create good work. Would you do either you cannot create good work in a vacuum you have to have supporting loving people around you, and then it grows exponentially and what you thought was your best is only. Grows to three four times faster and better than you ever imagined. So by having a family of actors and great writers and a brilliant showrunner like John Kenny. Everything that's that that is good about you is is. Is brought up everything that is stupid and petty and small is waste turned away quickly because they know all your bad habits and they won't put up with them. That's-that's true in a healthy family. Isn't it at any great? I mean yes it's true. There are people who have horrible experiences in the movies. Big Hat. You know it doesn't that's a movie lasts for that length but there's no great series that there hasn't been some wonderful chemistry on very rare. If if that's true, then it's rare that it's an exception imagine work chemistry. You guys had it in. Spain we had it in spades. They did a great job casting us. The very smart shows on the screen you can see. It really bad. We have a great time. We laugh all day long. It's like world on the job. Great. Yeah. We try to make it to. Try to keep the steaks important. You know we try not to turn it into satire. But. I'm grateful to you guys for spreading the word. You never directed any episodes. Is there a chance you might see one episode you might direct in the final six knows impossible they asked me to They wanted to do especially this year, but I can't prep. Prep is at least you know at least ten days of solid work of looking at locations casting on having production meetings some artists too. Much in the shows for me to to have been able to do it, I would have loved to would have been a lot of fun but it wasn't possible on the show. So I've written other things what about that writing you mentioned I can't because you know you jinx them and and. Pitch them professionally and and get them out there written. Well, one thing I can tell you is that I I may have told you before I wrote a play called terrible advice which was on in London. In Two Thousand and eleven and I'm looking for now to directors and we're looking for production of terrible advice here in. United States. I'm hoping that that'll be done. I've written another play that I'm hoping to get done and. A couple of television things a feature I work all the time I. Don't wait for the phone rang can't wait for the phone to ring. He talks about a memorable guest starring role. I did an episode of outer limits that took me back in time to concentration camp. My parents are all survivors I didn't have been trivialized given. It was a science fiction show. But. It was with the on Hrubesch who was an old friend of mine the late on rubbish a great actor he was witnessing played the grandfather. He was Nazi that I was hunting. It was with Lindsey. Krause. Was in it with me it was a beautiful written. Episode. I love doing the psych episodes, which is I tell them. toenail episode was really really cool that the star Trek stargate is one of my favorite one and I have to say that one of the most fun things I've ever done in my life was playing Donnie on frazier for a couple of years with that. MAZING talented group of actors and writers was a highlight of my career. Loved every second of doing. So I'll go now but I sure loved it. Those are some of the most fun. Guest Star roles. That I've probably leaving something out I'm I'm very old a lot of things. But I I'm I'm a fan of a lot of genres I like good writing. So whether or not it's You know it doesn't matter to me whether it's a thriller whether it's. Or whether it's you know. I guess literature just just great writing just a great novel SCI FI horror. I mean, I I like it all if it's well done so. And what's his favorite television that he watches? I think that I'm I'm a real fan. Like a lot of people are the real thin of Dexter Dexter breaking bad Those are two of my favorite shows of all time. You know I like. I like comedy too I. Mean I love watching Seinfeld today I even did two episodes of curb your enthusiasm I love watching. Larry David. Thanks guys. Thank you on a great job. Thank you for sharing that was. What a special show. On forever I I watch it on my tablet. Thanks, guys. There's more fi talk. So stick with. Here's more Sifi talk with Tony to Lada. Eddie McClintock now joins us in a round tables at. San. Diego Comic Con. has also been. Trying to. Yeah. It's Kinda, like it's Kinda like the mall wath look. Yeah it's like for last time, but I'll come back. I'll be. Back Ten a reunion. MAYBE WE'LL DO A. Movie. I know people have talked about doing. Plus I'M GONNA come inside sign. In the signing next year. That's one of the things. Warehouse Thirteen. Has Given us an opportunity to go. meet. The fans and make a few shekels in. Travel the world. It's been pretty good. I got no complaints. I'm sure this felt like leaving good friends. I. Have spent more time with these people in the five years I've spent with. Any of my family. Like my sister lives in Florida down lives in Arizona my mom lives in San Diego and. They have become my family. Not to be cliche but it just. You can't you can't. Help it. You spent fifteen hours a day five days a week from nine months with these people under these circumstances. You you either figure out a way to love one another or you just you'll hate it. Tends to be a whole lot of middle ground, but it's one of the things you know joining. The bug, each other a lot I bug, her more than she told me but it just that's what happens. But at the end of the day. If anyone would mess with me or I needed help. would be there mincing as would any of these people? So What can you tell us about what's coming up? For the last round that. We have six episodes. Were kind of squeezing. A lot into. A short period of time. I have to learn about eighty pages of Spanish. In one episode, Mike and. Trapped in a Telenovela. And Turns into a character called Audubon. And I've got this, I'm having to make me this giant. Moustache. But I'm going to have like a crushed velvet. Vest With, you know my chest hair stick it out and it's going to be. Very sexy right but it should be so much fun and Jacks cutting the the season premiere. He says it's so great and find I mean I'm just relaxed. Shit. You know it's kind of like. It's it's it's own. There's no other reason to be anywhere. You know we're not worried about ratings when you're on the air just like, okay. Well, what we get ratings you know it doesn't matter we know where we're going so. I've just been having fun. I mean more fun than usual. And he talks about series finale. Well. I said to Jack when I found out that that there was going to be six out for us I saw the jackass. Happens. Do we all die or YOU'RE GONNA kill us? We explode warehouse GONNA blow up. Blow up, it's going to happen. He's like we did all that. You know. It's GonNa be I. Wish I could tell you. This it's like when he told me I started almost try on the phone just from his because it's so. It's so right on and so. Tastefully done. And it gives all of us an opportunity to kind of. seargent. To the warehouse to the fans and. To each other. It's brilliant I the guys Jack air executive. Is. I just think he's brilliant. So one of the things you did that we so special show was. You mentioned telling the video, the film noir. You really stretch the boundaries of what you guys I pulled it off. On That was amazing. I think that's kind of what's special about the show. I feel badly because I think they're still more stories to be told. By the warehouse. That can be fun but. I. Appreciate it. That was it was always fun for me to show up ago we do what in life? Do what I mean. Whether whether. We're saving the world or were in a Nuwara were trapped in the war novel or you know Rico Tony's there or capable gruza my mom I mean you know? Jerry Ryan is my ex wife. You know she seven of nine I mean I grew up going. I just would turn on that show. I wouldn't even I would turn the volume down just to wait. And then all of sudden she's playing my. Wife I was like when I met her I was like you don't realize mice my street drug just went up tenfold. Because of you. It's been. It's been great. Great was there one episode that you had the most amount of fun on? I gotTa Tell, Ya. The season opener here that we just did as I said I mean I just was so loose to the point where. Jackson any on. I mean I was having a blast and. There's some really great funny moments in the season opener and some great serious moments too like, Gosh, joy in and I just. We just film this serious great moment to impede Mike and I think it's the best moment they've had together since the season began and uh It's nice to be able to share that with Joanne. She's my my buddy. And what is he looking forward to seeing at San Diego Comic Con. Excited to see got zillow. I got after I saw shark. NATO. Now. I. Was actually a few weeks ahead of the curve. I love. Great White Sharks. I. I love old side fine movies I. Love. Universal, for characters, Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein Marvel comic books the. Incredible Hulk. Stuff like that never. Always, bugs me when you see some. Uber Beautiful Person. That's got it together. They're like, Oh, I am such a Geek. I'm really Geeky shut up. Okay but I I guess I never thought of myself is that but but I guess now that I know that the nominee glacier of conventions I guess. I. Guess. I. Qualify in some summaries. Worn a peak you costs too. But I wouldn't. I wouldn't say I'd never. Take you guys know. Thank you guys really pleasure. Thank you guys for all the years of support. All Yours. deserved. Thank. Thank you. Deserve. Aaron Nash Moore's next. WHO WAS JINX How you doing how's everything sending with you with everything? That's Yeah, I think it's bittersweet that the show's ending we got a lot of episode five seasons sixty, I think sixty four episodes I was in all of them but you know as a as a run for show. That's really really good. So I think it's difficult and bittersweet everybody's sad that it's ending. But we feel grateful that we got six episodes to to finish off and and I think that we're finishing really really strong. So it's but it's tough. It's a little sad. Yeah How is the panel? We haven't done it yet we haven't done. We do it at five or six five. I think so very very time it's coming up on five. Four and we get an hour I'll let you know. He, talks about playing sci-fi and John. Roles. I don't know if I would have thought that that's the way my career would go. I mean as an actor you sort of you go out for everything and you never know what's going to work and what's. Going to stick excuse me but. I feel very, very fortunate. I feel like there's such a great. Like this, you know the material you can do I it's fun. You know what I mean like it's not just straight drama where it's like procedural whatever I think that there's a lot of. Fancy stuff that's involved in these shows that is great television. So to be able to be a part of that is amazing. I'm I love working on Smallville I loved working the warehouse lost girl like I would love to continue to work in the SCIFI world. Hopefully, I will I have no idea As an actor you've done a show and you're like, I'm never gonNA work again but you know inevitably someone else comes up but but yeah, I think I've been really lucky and haven't necessarily just pursued. sci-fi stuff but it's just sort of what's click for me and what's happened. So I don't know I. Guess It's sort of meant to be how was your favorite thing about jinx? I liked that he's a little kind of standoffish and cranky sometimes like sort of me in a way a like just sort of like, I don't know whatever I kind of liked that about him but I think they created a really. Well. Rounded character and jump into a show that's are already well established and all the characters are really like fleshed out. You don't always get that I find. So I, I don't know I mean I think that. We've sort of built him up and Jack was very open to me being me in writing towards that a little bit so. Yeah there's this la La everything. Just it's probably one of my favorite characters and just feels very comfortable very natural for me is character and if you can get to a place with the character, it's it's so much fun. You can just Kinda. You know I don't know. It's just it's. It's nice because you don't always sometimes are really working to to be the character or like it's really difficult to find that character and for me jinx was was really easy. They really wrote a character that adapted to me. So it was great and here he is on. Jinx's death I cried I was like, I love this show. Why are you guys killing me? You killed me on Smallville you got something kill me on where No Yeah. I mean. I. Was Bummed for sure but Jack at the end of the season. So don't worry. We'll bring you back. Don't worry about it and I was like, okay like how now we got a Hey Artifacts. But. But it's still you know until it's a done deal I don't know if they're going to get picked up for a fourth season you know all those sorts of things. So when when when they did bring me back Sir regular for the fourth season I was ecstatic. It's you know it feels good to you know be brought back to something that you really enjoy doing and that you're you know want to pursue continue doing. So yeah, I was I, was bummed when killed me but I was so very, very happy when they brought me back. Most of. The civil war stuff out. Will the reenactment was amazing I mean they had why I don't want to say thousands of brother wasn't thousands zip a couple of hundred people out there cannon guns the whole deal. So I've never been to a like a a war reenact. So it was definitely fun but I remember it was. Dark and cold when we started and rainy like rained a lot of the day. So it was one of those days where you're just like, oh my God. But I think it worked really well, it looked good and it made it look like the you know. They, they really pulled it off sometimes that's up when it's so big and you've got to do day in the weather's terrible like how GonNa Happen But. Yeah, you know. Fun Dressing up and costume goofing on goofing on the civil war sort of stuff and I love that. Scene that stuff too because A Yankee guy comes by and and I think it was a Yankee guy but but Claude puts the artifact in the bag it like whatever, and then the guy says, oh, damn trek he's always going to buy you know spoiling everybody's fun or whatever, and I was like. Really really funny as a little bit so. He talks about what he geeks out on when he visit. San. Diego Comic Con. I read quite a bit. I read some comic books of the past year. I haven't been reading ton but, A couple years before that I was reading a ton. CA, basically catching up I read a bunch of stuff and I was like in high school teenager Lotta. Superhero stuff. But I never really got into some of the like the Vertigo Stop Sandman and some of that. So I started reading all that stuff. So I really, I really got into that A game called starcraft to video game big into. I spent a lot of hours working away on their I love my cats I'm real nerd about my cats. I shouldn't say that. Love Them. Yeah, they're just yeah I don't like you photo shoots or anything. We're the weird like hosing them and stuff, but I love Them I. Remember the baby's. Like. Yeah, yeah. Yeah Yeah, it's just I I never had a cat before and I just I love them. So I it's weird. But what else? I mean I I go see all the big comic book movies and all the proper movies. I haven't seen Pacific Rim yet but I really want to they shot that in Toronto. And like giant robots versus giant monsters like a six year old and me is just like going crazy. So I'm really looking forward to that I'm x three D hopefully. But yeah, that's it. You know kind of normal stuff. I. Don't I don't have any super super weird like. Stuff that is like really that's what you're into a senior data. How? Does. The End. He'll for jinx it feels like is going to be in a good place. Yeah. I WANNA know now. Yeah I think every. I think. That's a real beauty of of. Our last episode is that it's all well done in it puts closure. To everybody it's not just like, Oh, well, these characters like everybody just gets such a great ending and they really wrap it up in a way that I think everybody's going to be happy with like me reading it. I was like that's the best episode that I've read of the show. So. I think everybody's GonNa be happy mean maybe one or two nitpickers out there but I think ninety nine percent of people are GonNa be really happy and Jinxi is is where he's supposed to be his. and his favorite episodes that might be why I really liked the first episode I did the new Guy I got to work with Eddie and like I didn't know who he was. He was just this. You know guy you know that I hadn't met and had such a blast with him that first episode it was awesome of civil war one was great I I really like working with Allison to like we always have a good time and you know we we I just think we have such a good dynamic the characters work. So well, together, pretty much any episode that I'm paired up with Allison, which is a lot of them We have a blast. I'm trying to think. What episodes just past the fourth season that to be honest with the four season was shot and we started shooting like almost two years ago. So thinking back to those episodes now I'm like what the Hell what the hell happened like I remember what happened at the end because I've sort of like you know reviewed that when we're going into the fifth season but I'm like. They happened in the beginning of the season. Two episode with Allison where we went to England, and there's like a bunch of course, skaggs and stuff like that. She kept bugging me about being scared of horses. Jinx I that was a fun once I. Pretty much everything I mean there's not really an episode that goes by that I'm like, Oh, I didn't like down or even have fun doing that it's it's all. It's all good. What artifact made you the most? Well the astrolabe didn't go so well already. So I think I think that'd be my number one one that I would like to avoid. I think there's there's some juggling balls that made Pietton Mike Drunk and do something stupid stuff. So maybe that I can do that by myself for the bottle of booze so I don't need. I don't want to run into those that'll get in trouble. Pretty much any of them because they're all there's always a downside, right? That's the thing they're. Always there's always like, oh, that'd be great but there's always something that's GonNa. Ruin your day or whatever. So pretty much staying away from them in general is is Is a good idea talks about a scene that he did with any McClintock at the beginning of season five Eddie and I shot a scene not too long ago that we Kinda Improv this thing and and I think it's really really funny. So I think people like I want people to see that it just it just like a physical sort of like a physical gag that I think was really really funny but I I can't give way stories stuff I can't you know like I said my my. Boss is around here somewhere and. We'll be giving me hell. So I can't wear anything about the fifth season I'm sure there are some things that could give away but I'm too I'm too scared to get trouble. What do you look forward to doing when the show was done Well, you know it's always exciting. You never know what's GonNa Happen as far as the next job there could be something huge that you. Know you never expected, but it's it's scary to to you know after three years of not having a hustle for a job and auditions of it's scary to go back out there and have to to hit the bricks. But yeah, I mean I'm living up in Toronto I'm hoping to be able to continue to work there. They've got lots of stuff happening up. There are lots of shows. So. Hopefully I can grab another show or something up in Toronto but you never know it's really sort of just a a game of you have to wait till you get out there and see what opportunities come along. And there's always a few irons in the fire but I don't know I don't know we'll see it's scary as an actor I was like I'm never gonNA work again. But inevitably, how is the mood on the set been when you guys went back to started in June? Odd really good. Actually, I mean I think that everybody was a little bit maybe. I. I was a little worried that maybe a little bit bombed or whatever. But that hasn't been the case at all I I'd say that there's more energy starting this season there was starting the fourth. So I don't know. Why you know why or whatever but I think everybody knows it's the last Hurrah. So just trying to make the most of it. Didn't it didn't. Thanks. Thank you. Manage an awesome job. Thank your appreciate that. Go Out of style. Shirts. Finally last but not least is Alison Scaglia who is Claudia? Talk about warehouse thirteen five. Yes we do. have. A hate asking this question but I have to ask how does how does it feel? Right. It feels satisfying feels really right. We've had an amazing. We've been so fortunate to have five healthy citizens that have been supported. That's more than a lot of shows can say, and we have the fans to for that. Obviously, we ever are supportive sci-fi and you see and we have our amazing writers. And and and. People people keep asking you know bitter sweet. Is it sad? And I don't feel that way. Feel. So satisfied with the final six episodes in how they honor. The mythology of the show and preserves the legacy of the show and. I can't stress enough. The fans are just GonNa love the the final episode. Because it. Doesn't. It doesn't feel like the show is is ending. It feels like it will. It just continues to live on. And We think we all cried when we read it. So it's Probably, my favorite episode of the entire series as hyperbolic as that is it's great. When you came on the show you were like. The show needed a juice. In Claudia gave it that juice. must've must've been amazing. Walking. Did everything seemed quick for you guys you know. After voters President I suppose it did I mean I I'm hesitant to to. I don't know take credit or anything, but my favorite memory onset is my very first de. Coming in and meeting saw and as and filming that that great scene where aquatic kidnaps him with electrified handcuffs it's it's. I was nervous I was eighteen years old. I was coming onto a set that had already been operating for a while and I found their groove it. As much as they can in their first season while still figuring out what the show was and and so there was a bit of a learning curve, but saul immediately just made me feel so welcome and if I if I had a question I deferred to him because he's the master and then he you know didn't talk to me like I was the new kid who talked to me like I was part of the family and his collaborator and and that that respect and. And and comfort has just. Developed even warranted steward and made me really feel like support leg of the table or. Table now has five legs off. The table with. Yeah, it's. I don't know I don't know what more I can say it feels good. was her favorite thing about Claudia my favorite thing about playing. Is Her humor. And we all get to to do that to some extent. You know that that we walk this tightrope drama action and humor and family emotion. I love that I get to be the sort of alternative edgy girl. It was a it was. It was fun. You know certainly during this These years when a lot of young actors have a hard time transitioning from teenage playing the daughter or the high school student or something into adulthood and playing. Playing the agent or the or the copper whatever. And I've been able to bridge that gap I think. Hopefully. Hollywood has the same attitude because I certainly feel that way bridge those years with a really cool character that I've been fortunate enough to hear from young women. means a lot to them because she's not she's not fake and she doesn't apologize for being intelligent and. Just has her own style. She doesn't apologize for I I'm I'm GonNa Miss. Quadir. What was it like on stage when you were doing like the episode where you were on stage before? That was The open MIC. Performing, performing the open Mike is Claudia I just brought all the Times that I have personally performed at open mics and just put all the nerves and and the thrill of doing it into that and I don't think you can tell the difference between. Between Claudia's open mic and my personal open. MIC. Him. I was just telling him I seek out over loud thanks music number one music is my. Sweet Nectar. But I have a really geeky story about when I got to meet Kimmy Robertson from twin peaks. S. My favorite show in the world and twin peaks fans will will. Will remember the minor bird Waldo. When I met her I was wearing a gold bird skull necklace and she noticed it and walked up to me in plucked it off of my chest and said Oh well, Joe. And the look on my face like I'm having an aneurism, I can't handle. How I mean I can't even speak now. Giving out so hard meeting Kimmy Robinson. Anyway, I used to actually have a fantasy that if we ever met Claudia's parents would be played by Kyle mclachlan and sherline. That's what I really wanted here. She talks about being recognized. Yeah, it's bizarre because I don't think of myself as anything more than what I am, which is working actress, and I've been that way since I was eleven years old. But it's very it's very gratifying, very flattering to. Be in the subway in New York. Subway drivers say. It's it's comforting and and very, very gratifying because we're so removed from the process when we're on set of we don't, and that's what makes comic con. So great was coming face with the people that we make the show for. The IT'S COOL And then eerie that I have an action figure that people are I. Of course I have my mom has one. My MOM LOVES HERS LINE ISN'T BOX in. Storage. My Mom's prominently displayed I. Think My dad does. It is really just a statuette. So so I wish I. Wish. It had. Do you say that animated joints. But it doesn't maybe maybe the next iteration. The next generation of Claudia Toy will be an actual lake bendable things. No barbies. Definitely. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you Claudia. It's been a pleasure and honor. Thank you. To me, there is a place for a series like warehouse thirteen with its mix of humor and drama and established its own rhythm. Its has the magic formula of the right combination of cast and producers that made the series work, and why will always keep coming back to see what artifact gang uncovers again and again and never get bored. Special. Thanks to the sci-fi channel. This is Tony Tomato. Everyone this tag you'll hear and I was Jane Cleaver Masses. Coming I've been in Andromeda, and of course, I have played. Linzie. On Queer as folk, and here I am and you are listening to Sifi Talk.

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6 yr old Perspective featuring my son Cedric

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6 yr old Perspective featuring my son Cedric

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With myself with the world and with my family sometimes. We don't hear from the people that matter the most. And my talking about men not today. Talking about women not today who am I talking about talking about kids kids say the darndest things and often times have a lot to say. A can be pretty profound if we'd just listened closely. So. Today. We are going to listen to my son as he answers questions from his six-year-old. Heart mind and soul as so. As I was interviewing him earlier today. a lot of questions he's coming from pure heart. I'm reminded of the scripture that says. Less. It all the pure heart for they sales see God and so. you remember when you're that age every thing. In life and everything world was into interdependent on you and it was your world, your views and how you've seen it and it. For most of us if not all of us. It was very simple, very simple and easy time It's not until you get older that you realize the world is imperfect people aren't perfect and you have to be able to be a part of the change that you want to see and accept. The hardships that come with change and corruption and. His Day to day life and so. I thought it would be a good idea. To, hear from our six year old son I mean this conversation that we had You would think I would be talking to someone a lot older, but he's only six or so bear with him like Hewitt up and we listened to Moscow and. Cedric. Williams if you ever hear this message, Daddy's so proud of you and the progress that you made in your life, you'll grownup so quick and I'm just proud. To the things that you said about me mom and that I'm your father alright. You out there boating isn't just going to the polls. On Election Day any more options like early voting mail in voting and ballot drop boxes are available to more voters in a growing in popularity. How? To vote a tool created by democracy works breaks down to options. Your state offers for casting a ballot empowering you to decide when and where to vote. For more information, go to how to dot vote. Thanks. Look what the wind blew in. It's my son, my favorites. Cedric and today he's GonNa get his six. Perspective on today's world and things are going on in today's society how you doing. How how old are you? When's your birthday? Okay, we'll grades you're going to. Write and so are you enjoying your summer? You can give me a little more than yes. I say. Okay What is Coming Brzezinski. During online sister no. Okay what's your sister's name? How does she? Okay. So. Say. Anything else you wanted to tell the other dads out there the other moms that might be listening about you. Day. Anything else. Okay. So, we're going to dive a little bit deeper today and as soon questions and I want you to give your best answer. Would do you think? About the corona virus. I think you say. How do you think we stay safe from? Keeping, your Mascola your nose, an wearing. And next thing. Highs lies. Are. Not Touching. have. Stay home. The toll? What is the virus. Of giant GER is a pack of giant germs okay, and what does it do to your body? Shit. Like. That question? If you make it gives here immune system. worming some say. Okay do you Do you miss not being in school from Toronto Virus. because. Just, you had A. Gets through siding. Would do fine. You get to do fun things at home which a moment, day? So what's the difference? Difference E. Mail my IPAD You gotTA. Really exercise. My parents Kennedy. The Way There's IT had did it does it gives you a greater appreciation. Of being in school with your friends. Okay. So would you rather be at home? Okay All right. So you the corona virus hit around. March and that stopped us from going all spring vacation. Remember. We supposed to go to. China. We didn't end up going. How did that make you feel? To. Go on cry for a minute. Have the. Vacation. I find this occasion for one full should do. Hang around for the rest of the day. So. Would have other kids are listening. And they're feeling the same way you did when they couldn't go on vacation. What do you tell? US. said. Case. Something else. Makes you happy. She. What did you do? Dad Changed. Is next morning I just. Oh That's that's what makes you happy. Okay So, now we're in June. And You know the corona virus is still here. Do you as we shift gears a little bit said, do you know? By any chance what racism is? To know what racism is? Do you know word Police brutality is. Do you know hatred is. Ate something are you know? Yeah. Do you know what? That is what it means. Okay What do you feel about like if someone hates another person because of the color of their skin. Is that right? Or is it wrong? For Heard. This actually happened. You ever heard of this actually happening. where. Have you heard? Where did you hear about it? Through through. School and see. King Martin Luther King. Edward. Okay and how do you? How do you think? We solve that problem when when other. People hate other people because of the color of your skin, how do you think you would solve that problem? The problem. and. What did he do? You speech, he made a speech. CH-. Okay anything else he did. Got Upset. Okay he got upset. He made a speech anything else we remember that. Cedric might do. The. Same trial. System. Anyone's stops you from trying to do. Things. Okay. What The, necessarily chew in trouble and it's got a you said. Because a lot of huge would. One. Make. Someone said they got in Shrub. Well. Initial. By. A wrestler from. Her Just because that was All they had to. Tell the. Teacher that. Is that what you do. Now. Hard time. But that's All right. All right. Any plans for this summer. Too. Little while who? In less. Let's the end zone words. We will have to wait to. Passage. Wanted begins. INDIANA. Okay. What are you would? Is. This message what we should do Our. Family members, House. Do you like spending time with family. And what is foreign to you? A. But Charlie. Does. Toys Point Act. Easing involves. Grain. Anything. Gotcha, what is not flawed. Easing it. As Wall. How away for a? C.. Cedric would do you WanNa be when you grow up. WanNa. A veterinarian. Is. Do you like animals. What kind of animals do you live? Or you know you gotta be real close to animal animals if you're going to be a veterinarian. Veterinarian is like a animal doctor. Did you know that So, you gotta be real close to home. You can't. China and try to check it up. Yeah but I mean, you know. I mean, you wouldn't be a veterinarian for Tiger maybe like a big dog or cat. Or a bird. Like something. Now Iraq. I think will WANNA pet dome. Wait. For. What about a cat? Bring a canned. Fish we have fish. Do you like this. and. The thing about cats. And they will must've. Appear. I. Have seen itself to maybe of poppy. Fish. Fish. Okay. Do you have any plans on going to school college. Okay What do you? What do you? Do you believe in God? What do you believe about? God. Only that. Beijing. Holes. and. Just. Anything else. Would you like about your dad? This episode, this podcast is about fatherhood and being death. What is it that you like about me? Help. You. Make me happy. You. Say. That I think. However You are. Saying I don't. Know Time. evil. What do you like about your mom? Is there her Sane. Dad. Does? Anything. What about your grandma? Or Your Mimi Ever have. Her have. Unless we make. Woods, do you like your sister? was born about Tammy. Are you are you afraid of things? here. Get started. Okay. Well, something want WanNa talk about as we're wrapping up. What is it? You WanNa talk about your family. ME. Maybe not. Are you. Okay. So to try to fix the corona and not complain. About. About what? Now. Open. So. You think that me and mom complain will fix it for breakfast lunch and dinner. Oh you and your sister. Okay. So you guys, that's what you want to talk about family about how we can fix the coronavirus and how you sister can stop complaining about we fix for growth is launching. I. Think that's I. think that's fair. Fathers if you're listening out here. This is a perspective from six year old son Cedric and. You know it's good to to have these things as good to talk about these things because we're we're so concerned with What's going on in our day to day life as a father was going on in society who never stopped to ask? What is going through the mind of our kids whether they're young like I with it at teenagers or whether they're in adulthood and so I thought, this would be a good opportunity to interview Mawson Cedric and kind of pick his brain and see. What's on his mind. This summer. you want to end the show says. Which one say Ready to? Watch. All right. been another episode Fatherhood Fridays A lighter side of things stay tune and do me a favor. 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What Ive learned from COVID 19

Fatherhood Friday’s

21:41 min | 2 months ago

What Ive learned from COVID 19

"Stopped. This is your. Data at the. leppings point apparition tool La tour. Over computer. Your. Pocket. Ernst Stop Five. Breaker already. McClintock Everything, every you to touch inputs of the maker pocket. To. Pay. Was your whole. Life. Next Fatherhood. Fridays season. For. y'All can you can hear you? Loud, GLEN Just. excited. Excited this week man I been trying to get this brother on air. Well I can tell you for sure that there are no perfect parents. And you know I think one of the biggest challenges I think promotes the DADS in general is that parenting you? You sense it? It's one of the most critical rose that you're GONNA play in like My My feelings on that. He's got so far. Good. Morning Good. Afternoon. Good. Evening Ladies and gentlemen you're now into to Fatherhood Fridays. Term me up on your. Dial. Plugging headphones put to kids down. Sit Back Relax as I speak team this. Friday. I'm doing. As always law now, let me not say always but I'm doing pretty good just driving ear. Looks like it's about term rain? where I'm at. And so just drive ahead at home here and just kind of reflecting on my day. And just reflected on this season of of Kobe nineteen. No. I've talked about it in several. Episodes that it kind of feels like beating a dead horse. But today I wanted to take a little bit different approach i. wanted to talk about. What I have learned. From covid nineteen. There should be some things. bothers DADS that we have learned from covid nineteen, and so I wanted to share with you today. Kinda. Expound. On. Some of. The things I've learned. In this. Year of twenty twenty because this year has been. Different like no other. And so A lot of us we have been impacted in some way shape or form whether knowing someone that has contracted the virus Maybe, you lost a job. maybe your kids had to be home school and you had to figure out which pair was going to stay whole. Medical Issues shows being cancelled. Just a different way of life. And so. what else spin in too much on how Kobe has impacted me. I WANNA share with you guys what I've learned. From cody in this pandemic. I've learned in life that. Fast, fathers. and. you know as as men that are head of our household. We have to learn how to. Be Flexible. because. Things never stay the same and if we're so rigid. On. Having things a certain type away. when when live shifts We will literally be. Thrown off guard literally be upset because things are not how we're used to. And so I've learned how to be flexible and I'm still learning how to be flexible because you've gotta be able to shift and adapt and. Adjust. To live recalibrate. and. Even better word for recalibrate. You gotta you have to know how to. reinvent yourself. Because what was yesterday is not today and what is today might not be tomorrow. So you know whether any of those words adjust recalibrate. REINVENTION YOU'RE GONNA have to learn how to do it in order to survive. distinct called life. Because tomorrow's not promised. and. We're we're we all have? A time limit honors, we just don't know the time limit. We're all GONNA die. But we just don't know when we're going to die. So to my second point, we have to make the most of our time. we can't live live haphazardly. we can't live life just because or out of routine. As one of my good friends. Bobby Hicks said on. A previous episode, we have to live life with intention analogy. You have to live life on purpose. Now. We have to prioritize time as he said, we have to. Communicate. Does the third one and we have to be organized if he's listening might be like, may you don't remember the three actually do and so? Being intentional. Being intentional now live live haphazardly now live in life aimlessly beliving live to a purpose. A third thing that I learned. Is that. I, AM tired of. Exchanging. Listen to this close see time for money. I realized in covid nineteen. How much? My family. My spouse, my kids. We were in a rat race. We were. The American dream and just exchange in time for money go to work eight nine hours. Travel sometimes. Forty. Five to an hour, just to get to work especially here in Texas. Then, it takes you another forty five minutes to a hour to get home. Pick up your kids from school or. After school daycare. You spend two or three hours with them. EAT DINNER TRY TO DO HOMEWORK You know. Go to church and then just do it all over again. And I realize that I'm not I am to the point where I'm not trying to exchange time for money because time is the most valuable assets, you have not money not things. But time. And so I'm you know I'm working on and I'll talk about this in another episode guys I'm working on building my home business so that I could have the necessary time I need. To allow. Money to work for me without giving up eight or nine hours of my day. I'm done to the point where exchange and time for money. So I'm in the process of. Building my own business. and allowing the money to work for me. Another thing. Kobe. Has taught me. Is. How Our teachers. And Principals. How hard they have it in the school system. I think a lot of times. His Dad's we take for granted. Education we take for granted teachers. We forget that they're human beings and they're real people outside of their profession and how hard it is because when my kids. Then home with me and my wife, it was hard. It was hard to continue to teach home school and work remotely. and there until I lost my job, then I was teaching pretty much every single day. That was tough. I did it. But I I gained a greater appreciation. For, my son in daughters teachers. Those one thing that Cova taught me that I probably would have not seen. If. This pandemic didn't here. So I'm. I'm appreciative. Of. that. Another thing. and. I know this episode a little more loose. Not as structured, but from time to time. I. Like that another thing I've learned from this paying Kimmy. Is that. The digital. Age. is going to speed up a lot quicker. and. What I mean by I mean the digital age is already here. But. The ideal of doing everything remotely from a computer and learning from a computer and doing work from a computer and. Meetings. ABC Seen People do charge service and comedies shows and. Cooking shows and I mean the list goes on and on like. The digital age is definitely being up and. You know what it's speeding up. You know social interaction because we don't know how long this. Is going to. Be I mean some say the vaccine is coming in Denver, I mean December. moee really don't know. And I'm not gonNA pretend I know. But what I am going to say is that. Is showed me this pandemic show me how? We're in the digital age how we were able to adjust real quickly to doing things online and how it has became the norm. Most jobs unless you're an essential worker. You have to work from. A computer work from home with a computer or tablet or you know some sometimes your phone You know and so. if this, if this continues to become the norm like I said. What happens to our social interaction what happens to getting together as a family what happens to you know visiting relatives and you know doing typical things where there's large. Large numbers. I don't know these answers. But the next thing that this pandemic has brought out and what I've learned from it. Is that. We have lost our sense of trust. it's hard to trust people. because you don't know who is. Carrying the virus you don't know who is clean at restaurants are not clean You know I, mean there are there is information out there of. How it shows you. You know you're greater chances of catching covy. Large crowd being. Possibly being on an airplane. Restaurants. With. Huge numbers. You know I mean you you've you've done your research. But what is also showed me. Is. Do this pandemic. Our lack of trust the people. because we don't know anymore who's got word who's carrying what? Why are they not wearing a mask? It also showed me speaking of masks on how divided we are. And how selfish we are I've learned that also. As a as a culture and as a society. that. Now, everybody's wearing a mask. Not Everybody is being say. And it just shows the divide. because. This is not about. the government laying down the law this is about. Doing this for the sake of someone else not giving you have to not think about yourself. When putting on a mass. If all you're going to think about is a lobby. All right. There's nothing to worry about. The, you're not thinking about that next person. Now's y you know whether city states countries, we're seeing spikes, go up and down fluctuate increase. You know, and this is just the first. Wave of the when the season changes and summers completely overnight gets cold, you're going to see another way. As so It shows that. We're not as united as. A society or as people as you might think, we are and that we're we're Celtics. A lot of times where where I'm traveling the world going. Mask is required or they're not gonNa let you into their business. Then, they're not going to. Provide a service. Or product unless you have that mask on. So. That's a that's another thing that The Corona Virus Has talked. Corona virus has also taught me to go after my boy after what's inside your heart. That this is the best time. To. Go after. What God has put in your heart. Because time is of the essence. You know. It took this virus. It took his virus virus in me getting laid off. My job. To start my own business. It took virus and Megan laid off my job. To self publish a book. By. Not have done it. Or might not have completed. The stages that I have. If. It wasn't for being laid up. So being laid off. Put. A. Greater Sense of urgency. And a greater sense of motivation for me. To. To do what I've been called to do. And so as fathers. As mean I know it this corona virus has impacted. You some way shape or form for what have you learned from There's been plenty of people that have been impacted by the what have you learned from it? I would say. As I'm wrapping up, take the time. To reflect on that. Take the time to write down what did you learn about yourself? In this corona virus would have you learned about. Your. Kids. And Your family and what you? WanNa might do differently. What have you learned about it as a relates to the world that you live in? I know what I've learned but what have you learned and if you've learned something. How are we going to apply it differently this time Because like I said, things may not ever go back to how they were they might but they might not, and so we ask fathers we have to be prepared. Either way. We have to be prepared either way and that's all about my to my first point. You know being flexible. So I'm wrapping up. Thank you for tuning in to another episode of Fatherhood Fridays. I home. This was engaging to you. Hope you can reflect on. What I've said and I will be with you. Next Friday and Lasting. If you like what you're hearing, continue to follow me on multiple social media platforms whether it's facebook twitter instagram linked in. you can also donate by going to ANCHOR FM DOT COM. Click on the tab when you see Fatherhood Fridays support. And last thing you can do is spy. If you've done all three I thank you in advance if you have it. Do. Do yourself a favor in myself by doing that. Thank you again and I'll talk to you next week. Hey you out there boating isn't just going to the polls. On Election Day any more options like early voting. Mellon voting and ballot dropbox is are available to more voters in a growing in popularity how to vote a tool created by democracy works breaks down options. Your state offers for casting a ballot empowering you to decide when and where to vote. For more information, go to how to DOT bogue. Thanks. and. Here's a sneak peek into next week's fatherhood. Friday episode. All the good songs that will be playing the here vacuum in the background you know rushing sin you forget me nots things that make you fat boys that go all the way back to that. Father, actually took me to my first concert. I concert I'm going to be showing my age with this but it's alright because I The way. The be hit but. First concert was fat boys. Heavy D it was fat was called the press fat boys. Salt and pepper.

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Decisions, Decisions, Decisions

Fatherhood Friday’s

19:52 min | Last week

Decisions, Decisions, Decisions

"Stopped this is your data at the leppings point apparition tool tooled over computer your pocket. Stop five breaker already. Mcclintock at every you need to touch of the pocket to pay was your anchor life next fatherhood. Fridays season for. Y'all can you can hear you loud. Glen just excited excited this week. man i been trying to get this brother on air. Well i can tell you for sure that there are no perfect parents and you know i think one of the biggest challenges i think promotes the dads in general. Is that parenting. You sense it. It's one of the most critical rose that you're gonna play in life so far Live and on the air. Thanks for tuning. You're now listening to fatherhood. Friday season for episode. Fourteen with your host charmer her. How're you doing out there. Everybody what is going on in your world as whether it's cooling down in some places in some places still feels like summertime man normal little nasal congestion on this end. Sinuses are acting up. And i have slight headache to say the least but never nevertheless. I'm i'm here giving it to you. Fathers men women mothers. And whoever else that might be listening fatherhood. Fridays is expanding reach different people all across the world in many different states. You know. I wanna let you know that i see you out there Kentucky i see you out there croatia. I see out there of brazil. I'll see you out there isla Just to name a few places that of people that i might not know But they have listened to this podcast and some capacity whether the whole episode part of the episode the first few minutes i see you in humbly say thank you and this year as i'm gonna keep on saying this year has been a year like no other And something this year that we've all had to do And you might be thinking. What is that Make a decision to go to work. Nope make a decision to feed my family. Nope so what is it. Watches said it decisions decisions. Decision decision deciding factor making a judgment. Call we've all had to make decisions and so today i'm going to be talking to you momentarily About decisions i know for some of us have been following me regularly. You might be saying man. You've you've had guest after guest after guest and i believe in season four's this. This was just a time and season forward I'm a father just like many others in. I don't have All the stories all the inside all the wisdom all the struggles. But i've met people in my lifetime. That i know known or are friends with that. Have powerful stories interesting stories stories that they wanna share to help father's dad's alight To equip them and so That's why if you've ever wondered That's why i've had so many guests on people reached out to reach back and so I want to all the donators have decided to donate. And if you want to donate or give you can give by going to anchor. Fm dot com backslash fatherhood days apostrophe s. And he support. You can donate anywhere from ninety nine cents to nine dollars and ninety nine cents like a friend of mine said that means you might have to give up a cheeseburger or a burrito or some some kind of food to donate But i would greatly appreciate nassau keeps going and keeps This podcast expanding also While i'm on this subject you can also Follow on spotify you to subscribe or apple and many other Podcast platforms such as cast box. Overcast stitcher breaker bullhorn radio public and at least eight plus more. I never get through all eight. But if you know podcast platform go to fatherhood. Fridays and follow me in that way you can get the latest episodes that come out weekly on fridays last. But not least just reshare with some ice in this To someone that my needs to hear All social media so you can copy and paste it on facebook or or twitter. I'm now on youtube. So you can listen to all of season four audio content on you youtube as well as recreating video visuals form now. Fatherhood fridays expanding and reaching into different markets. And we're finding different ways to reach you guys. We have a father who fridays facebook page. That you can go in. And where i post. The latest episodes and post The latest Seasons one through four you can go there and find him as well as all you to as well as on anchor. Fm so they're going to be multiple different ways that you can find me. Not just acre fm. But i digress from now. what's more important. Not making a decision of where you can find me but decisions in general. What is your process of making a good decision. A great decision a godly decision. While i'm going to share with you mop process in hopes that maybe you can adopt some of these things that can be beneficial to you. And my first process is my filters my mind filters on my priority and what i value in my values of filters is in this order Face family finances. And i go through those four filters and see if they make it through all four filters. How does this. Matter with my favorite making this decision Does it a line of with god's will and purpose for my life god's word Family house this decision. His bond family included in. This is my wife. My two kids son and daughter Is it going to impact. Is it. nothing going to happen by making. This decision is going to be a sacrifice involved in this decision My third one finance. It doesn't cost me something financially. Do i gain. Do i lose And then four is it fun So those. I know those might not be your priorities. Are your values but those filters i go through. Every time i make a decision and i do my best not to make hasty decisions and so we should never ask fathers. Make a hasty decision but we should never at the same time have analysis paralysis him guilty of analysis paralysis and you might be wondering what is analysis paralysis to analyze something and breakdown something so much. That hinders you from actually doing the theme that you were set out to do. Nothing is proof proofread. There's always going to be a little bit of risk. There's always going to be a little bit reward But if you are called to make a decision if you are called to be the deciding factor Would it would. are you. Put it up against and so We want to avoid having analysis paralysis. A think another thing in analysis paralysis comes from the idea of evaluating things. I know the bible says. Count the cost before you build the house and so we count call so much that we never get to actually building a house and so That is a scripture. That i hold dear in that you know asked. It's you digest that in your heart is well as on on the point risk and reward. What is the risk. And what is a reward. Oftentimes we make decisions. There is going to be a risk and there is going to be a war but how does it balance does a balance and this is all in. The idea of analysis does a balance in Sixty thirty sixty four fifty fifty seventy thirty nine hundred ten. How does it balance in the risk and reward It does does it even require risking war. These are things that go through my head as i'm making the decision and when we finally do make a decision to my next point we have to trust the process all the way through sometimes making a decision. There's a process that comes along with it whether it takes six months nine months a year two years five years. There's a decision that comes along with it. Some decisions are not small decisions. They're big decisions that can have a lasting impact and so we have to trust the process and making a decision and not be double minded. And what does it mean to be double minded. I'm glad you asked to be double minded is to make a decision on one thing didn't stop that say. No that's not gonna work and then make a decision I think fifty cents said it. Best have faith or fear but don't have both so either believe in something or be fearful for something but don't have both because when you have off what that creates is double mindedness Double mindedness is is having multiple decisions. That oftentimes can lead you nowhere Have we prayed about artisans. Are we making hasty decisions. A lot of times. Some decisions can require an answer. Just like that other decisions will choir allows us to have more time and More time to pray more time to meditate and more time think about things To make a decision sometimes we put more pressure on ourselves trying to have a decision instead of just sitting back and thinking like man. I really don't have to have the answer until the end of the month or a week later. I'm putting so much pressure on myself to come up with a decision. Because if it's god's will for you to do something then he will front the bill and i got that from a good friend of mine. I was on the phone with earlier today. If it's god's will the he'll front the bill all we have to do is beans. A tool is being used in doing exactly what he asked us to do. We don't have to have every idea every step We don't even have to have all the answers. We don't have to have all the resources if this guy wants you do he is going to. provide that for you. All we have to do is getting a lineman so it can open up to us and so Hasty decisions and proverbs can be for the foolish but A a well thought out playing can be for the wise and so a lot of decisions to make in this time and in two thousand twenty. It hasn't been easy for some of us. But just know that god is with you and that he's with you every step of the way whether you feel his presence or you don't he is with you and a third thing that i often times. When i'm having a hard time making a decision i see godly counsel. I get in a community of people that share the same values the same beliefs that i do and i asked them. Hey man wh- what do you think about this. If you were me would you do it like this. Or would you do something nelson and there's nothing wrong with that because a lot of times We can make decisions by ourselves. Sometimes that I've five women do decision making collaboratively which means they go to different people and get their pain and in assessing for themselves. How do you go about making a decision. Are you more of a supportive or are you more of a collaborative person. Do you make hasty decisions. How do you make decisions whether big small or medium. How do you go about making decision. I don't think there there's a right or wrong way. But i think there's a way dad can be most effective according to the personality that you have. I only can speak for myself a lot of times. I don't make hasty decisions but at the same time. I don't seek a lot of people on my seek one or two people that are trust one or two people that i look to for guidance and mentorship say hey man what do you think about this. What do you want to do. Because if you ask everybody their opinion everybody's going to have a different answer and sometimes there can be a good answer but not a godly answer and so Always wanna feel. Like i'm aligning myself with the will of god and not just a good answer and sometimes aligning yourself who will guide. It can pose more Risks than just having a good answer but we have to know that all things work together for the good for those that love god and are called according to his purpose. I've had to make so many decisions this year regarding Being a stay at home dad in his time with unemployment. I'm still making decisions now of of going back to work and knowing going back to work if i work from home can. I still manage my kids. Doing virtual home school Is it worth to go back to work right now. going in person versus working from home So there's always decisions that you have to make in You might not have the answer but be encouraged. Somebody will be able to help you with the answer and help you make the right decision. In the time that you're making it If any man lacks wisdom he should seek it from god That gives wisdom. That comes from the book of james and so This is this is that year and there's always a season of you making decisions and so we want to be confident that we are making the right decisions To have the greatest impact for the kingdom for our family for our day-to-day lives. And so i will see you next week and this has been another episode of father who friday season two. I mean season. Four mama st episode fourteen again. If you like what you're hearing continue to copy and paste Where you see father who. Fridays the logo on you to facebook twitter instagram. Things of that nature I if you feel it. Please feel free to donate from ninety nine cents. Which is a dollar to nine dollars. 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Cannon McClintock: my God- sister and world renown jewelry designer.

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Cannon McClintock: my God- sister and world renown jewelry designer.

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Our moms have grown up as best friends together and because of that cannon I have grown up. Just being awesome friends. I've always felt like family to me. We regard sisters we went on a amazing journey together when we were in high school studied abroad and lived in Europe Cambridge together, and now cannon is a world renown jewelry designer. You designed my wedding and engagement rings you design earrings. Necklaces, you have incredible jury. So I kinda just want to talk to you about your life your mom of three beautiful girls you met your husband. Okay. How you met your husband's amazing Gavin. So let's just kind of. Like Our life we met as young kids together and I've just had so much fun getting to live likewise. Match. Yes because it is. It's it's cool to have a friend in a I mean we kinda felt like we we probably cousins I think succeeded easier for some people didn't understand what a God sister was It is cool to seven that it's like you have act absolutely known your entire life so No we had. We had so much fun when were younger and I. Don't know. But yes, Cambridge was so fun when you're in how would you describe that experience when we went to Cambridge because how do we stay over there? I mean it was a big deal we went and studied abroad. And I. It's weird as a parent. Now, where am I I can't believe my mom let me do that. I am but I just like that was pre cell phone, and so we were there I think you had to use a payphone thing to I don't like it didn't work. So it's like we didn't talk to our parents daily or check in and it was like we were just somewhere for that duration of time and I don't know it's just a weird concept out of just let it go I mean. I. I Guess Sophomore in high school. A junior or senior a yes. Yes. So One of my funniest memories was like the the moment. Our dorm was like way over on the other side of the town like he wasn't even in the town. It was like the furthest one I feel like from the town and I went grocery shopping for the first time I. Was So excited got all these groceries and I did notice that everyone had these like little pushcart sayings but anyway, I checked out and then all of a sudden I realized I had to walk home with them and it was like hobbies twenty minute walk. And I did it but I'm sorry we have the dogs maybe. Their neighbor. Friend. Love. It's okay. It's called. As their favorite red. We got dog it is real. Crowds and That hasn't happened yet, but possibly could so. Their signature. Read you give some treats a so. Anyway. But yeah, I had I had to walk home all the way it was about twenty minutes I had to take all these breaks I looked like an idiot because nobody else in Cambridge did that because they knew that. They knew is kind of. Figured out and. But yeah. I thought it was such a fun experience and just fun to be kind of a way and you and I had so much fun. We always have fun together but I thought that was a fun. Fun Memories. So a lot of. Anyway, I think that was the first big shot and he's like super independent although you and I did go to camp for our parents also sentenced to camp for like four six weeks every summer. What does this does this theme we are trying to get rid of us. Or just kidding. To see that they were promoting independence. But I know it was. I think it is good because it's like I feel like you went to college went to college in Vienna not. We'd already been doing things by herself. So while before we went I, don't think it was as much like shock and awe, and even like you went to Baylor in the new transfer of felt comfortable enough to just go into an institution. So I think that was the of years of going into unknown situation though I know and I got credit. For trusting us to go live abroad in to go to camp for four to six weeks. We both went to Camp Waldemar, which is an all girls camp in Texas and I mean it really is you gotta you gotTa give your kids little rocket girl pushes into learning how to be independent it's scary and it's hard and I'm sure it was hard on her parents but it is it is a necessary skill. Yeah knowing it is Kinda funny because it's like You see it as a kid that's of course, my parents are giving me independence and then as a mother now realize it's kind of a sacrifice to do that like you're sacrificing your control in your controlling Outta. It's not. It's not easy it I don't think it was like my parents. Wanted to let me do it was more like they knew that I needed that and they did it So which I'm having to see more and more apparent that that is like a choice you make and inner choosing for the long term more though you have. Three daughters and how how? How old is your oldest one? have. Three girls ten. Eight and almost six. who had and what have you had to learn with parenting as far as letting go like we're talking about camp and going overseas like what have you now as a mom with daughters who are? Old enough to to be looking for some independence come in themselves. What have you had to learn and how have you had to? You know sacrificing your desires of control to let them why I think it starts with pregnancy I think the that is like the initiation phase into dying to sell and. It's a very exciting time. It's also a time of like senior body change in it's like the train that just keeps leaving the station and you have no control. So I, think that's like the the priming it for the rest of. Our stand the rest of your life sorta and So I-. Starts there and then. Realizing. Again like as. One moment. Sorry they're very sweet but they want their trees sometimes needy. She's. Yes. So anyway. I I. Think there is like there is that as the kids get older it's just continually realize that they are own person. And their own personality and you didn't even you didn't choose it. You just kind of get what you get Saddam. And they're all different. WHOA. There's no like I with three like you have one sister have one sister I found. It's more unique situation when there's three girls, I mean the volumes up more the interaction is more there. It's it's a lot more. So but I think the Whereas like with without the. Allies that each hit. Very different from the other, and there's no cookie cutter away to parents I think. And I've just had to learn that and learn that. It's kind of cool. Once you once you. Realize that incite very free eight that way because you can read all these books in like rap yourself was it books are helpful sometimes but I think you need to spend time with your kids to know actually what's going to work and you had to figure out Parent differently do parent differently for each daughter Yes you do I mean there's collected. There's like There's there are collective things you've probably similarly, but I think you know I. Think it's it's learning what I've had to learn as people are motivated differently, and so each person's motivated to action differently and so you know one might lose their temper more but one might hold it in and then it's like neither is like the best option of communication. So it's morning to cater how you go about. Talking to the child motivated the. So it has been a lot of time and I think that's where pregnancy gets you started to realize the time is not yours first, and then the infant stage time is really not yours, and then now it's like I don't have the babies and so it's it's caretaking is a lot easier, but it is a lot more emotional and a lot more time at night before everyone goes to bed talking things through and I don't know it's a lot. Of It parenting is so much I. I know I just and you and I both have experienced like you said in pregnancy we both have experienced loss of pregnancy and you've. With such grace I Losing. Losing Bait at least by miscarrying is really emotional and you've gone through that how how did that help you surrender control and how did you get your perspective about that because that was something really hard for me to deal with in my own experience. Had To. So I, think the first one I had between. My second and my third. I don't think handle that one It's well emotionally, and actually it was like an earlier miscarriage was ten week something like that and No it was hard like it was my and months and I don't actually think i. Really. Came around until I was pregnant with my third and I heard that before it's like he kinda get over the miscarriage like once you have another one which actually think that's like an emotional like most proper emotional response to like have closure on something I just like having something new. Right. But I. I just like it was just hard to try to understand like why would God created a lie then wasn't meant to live that long. It was a lot of me trying to figure out why me and then like your hormone searching. Don't really help the situation and help the processing and I. Think I came like appointed exception, but I and I had another one and so. I. Always just kind of you that as like like traumatic thing that was that happened. That was awful that that the reason why is it gave me Sympathy for when it happened to other people and I think that's where I kind of. That's how I found in. And By anyway I it just it's. It's a hard thing to happen to anyone at any stage I. think so. but then. This last one I had was more recent and. This one I don't know. I think I felt like I had. You know like you just Kinda know your body and I I've had other kids have all been without an epidural. So it's like when you have laid without natural, you're very aware like all the body changed signs that could just Kinda on it you. So I thought that there was something happening and I do feel like for me that was God's kindness in it to just have like. A couple of weeks to process it possibly happy happening before it happened even from the darker side I'd gone in and it looks like everything was fine but you. Know your body and. I knew. So it was and I didn't want it to happen but it was like I just felt like something wasn't quite right and so I don't know I think with that. I had to come to the point. It was Kinda quote said, Journal about it to have kind of a a record of me like. Processing processing thrill pushing back like an and it really came down to for me having to realize. If I believe God, is the author of life then he can choose. The duration of it and that not my job. So That was a wrestling back and forth but I came to to that and then It was just it was a couple of days later I had the miscarriage but I I think. The unity and all that was that I had the time to process it before and I don't know I mean I still it's Still fairly new. So I don't know like. That I I. Think. The mental shift of trying to ask the question of why is something happening to me versus the accepting and Implies why they're like that very different mental shift to address the situation with the. So at a certain point, a such a good point because. When you are asking why? Why why is this happening? This isn't fair like the pain of feeling so great versus. God I accept this this is bigger than me. This is part of the plan like the acceptance and I feel like what life in general If I can get to place of accepting it. That is very hard for me to do except like I struggled accepting any suffering that I see that isn't even affecting me. That's like some that someone else like I have such a hard time. Grasping why suffering happens, but it's happened for as long as spiritual books and teachers have been around like that is the state of this world in life. Do you feel that? I think. So I, think there's In Metro Labor, their it this pain class with with by I and I dragged my husband to it and he will never let me forget he was very uncomfortable. It was this yoga class. We all have to sit on the floor together. He's not like that and We had to go through pain Techni, watch videos and he one of the pain techniques though is like. We ended study. HOW PEOPLE LIKE WALK ON HOT COALS Walk on, Nail. The idea is though is if you accept the pain and you're no longer biting at. Then all of the set and like the pain decreases. So I so even with Labor. Scared in the middle of it like you tighten it actually is more painful than if you go emotionally and mentally. To play, then you're accepting the pain that you're not. You're not fighting it. So like the times when we fight the pain. The pain doesn't result like you can fight the pain I think he could like fight the pain like gentle but you can find you can fight pain in life with alcoholics insider withdrawing. Dizziness like you can push back on pain to where you don't feel it but it doesn't. Raise. Any pain and it doesn't fix it but it's like. Going back to the national labor like by accepting it. Then all of a sudden it's like they're a part of it and somehow you're okay. So Anyway uplift on the pain. were, you able to go to a place because I didn't do Natural Natural Labor would you gave birth naturally? Were you able to go to a place and not fight the pain? Like were you able to do that? Real in man yes and and it's it's still painful. That's the thing doesn't a race it but you're able to just mentally work through it and then I do have to say with I I kinda in that place and then I get this the doctor came in to check any was like, oh, you're not diet like it was like I felt like I was about to die and then and then so I was like this baby must be. Here any minute I think I'm going to die, and then he was like you're only like four centimeters or something, and then just like Lou the wind out of my sails and then all of a sudden I was like telling the duo like I am going to die and he's an daryl and and she's just she tried to get me to go. But so I, think in live to we have time for we can do vary at tea. And then on situation and you might even be someone asking why Like how are you doing this and then all of a sudden you get out of that like you know knowing what you're doing, what you're doing, what you need to do, and then you can kind of look a little bit but and then I just got back in the mental thing. And then I was okay and then like actually I think she came like. Thirty minutes later or something, and so it just jumped and so I really was. At kind of towards the end that I felt I was at the end and then it you know I guess I just kind of. Just. Like went from I, guess afford to attend very quickly. So anyway. So do you think you've got to go on a plate? A traits what? What is your place? If you don't mind me asking do you even know how to put it into words where you went in your brain? Now like I'm sure people go into light places and stuff I. Think I'm like too pragmatic and not like. 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The most beautiful jewelry you started it in college and you've grown it into just an incredible. brand designed even featured in all of these top magazines and top stores talked about where that inspiration came from, and what inspires you to make jewelry and how has grown into this incredible highly sought after like i. don't even know what the word is, but it's just such a fine jewelry, but it's so unique and special Okay well. Thank you for all the kind words on it be I don't know I might highly sought out after worldwide or anything. You know I have been in magazines that I don't think like I counted like all the magazines all the places anyway. Much, more glamor who had like. Bad News magazine. What was that magazine like? What was it like a huge moment? I. Was like a whole. Year. How many? I don't you know it's. Twenty. Years, yeah. So. So somewhere in the twenty years in I started when I was seventeen and I made, I've always been creative and done art and as an outlet, and so I just started making Kind of made match com jewelry and there was a demand that might. Junior in high school and so I started doing that. And I just Kinda got into it and then started going to different stores and every time they'd have front shows when meeting designer and I was so young I was in my uniform and I was just like. Very approachable, very non-threatening because. I was not really doing anything, and so I just did a lot of learning and researching and asking and I just have to there were so many people that have just helped me along the way and It's simply miniature like twenty years is a long time to be doing the same thing and. Yeah. I just got into after the prom jewelry beatings got into using real stones and they got into Using casting and setting the sound and I used to make everything by hand and I had taken jewelry classes can't, and so I knew. How to do it and and then eventually kind of went from me doing it to be more just project managing and designing, and then having jewelers that do it. So. That was kind of it. I think there was I think anytime you have your on her, you're on business the like. Business Journey that's happening, and then there's like the interpersonal journey and I you know if you're working for someone, I think always blame the person you're working for the company. For just about anything and then when it's just you, it's like there's really no one. You know something's late it's not actually your jewelers fault even if it's you and then it's like everything comes back to you. So I think I've had over the years. that. kind of grown up with it I guess from seventeen until now. Had to learn a lot about decorating. My performance and my even sensitivity like an artist like if I made something I, felt like more connected to it and over the years I've had to learn how to separate. This is my business. This is my personal life and I don't know like I. Feel like I'm like kind of an old dog in the ring I don't even know if that's the term Dave, but it's like I've seen kind of a lot over the years and Yeah. Even like competition things would bother me when I was younger and honestly it's like I'm willing to help anyone because it is so hard to have your own business and it's like more power to you in like I'm happy to see someone exceed as well, and because is such a personal fight and a personal journey you have to go through and it exposes your Kind of all your Achilles heel and you have to just work through it whether that like pleasing people wanting admiration. Jealous over other people's success. I mean I feel like I Have Not, I haven't seen it all that I have done it the hit you know I don't know it. So it's This is now this period has been really nice because I feel like. Maybe. It's because I'm like thirty eight approaching forty but I think I'm just a lot more relaxed and I just I really love what I do and that and that if. Our families I that I do just really enjoy what I do a thousand tell me and we'll. We'll wrap up soon because I know you have to pick up your daughter from school because you are multitasking Mama Amazing. You're doing it all I'm sure you don't have one spare second of the day you're on home schooling another daughter I mean you have go and on the keeper squeezing in this part. What have you learned about yourself a twenty year journey because like you said, it exposes your Achilles heels teaches you so much about yourself because I feel the same way I have struggled with people pleasing with feeling jealous of other people getting success when it's like, why am I not getting? This is not that you don't want them to have it but it's like where's mine I'm trying to work so hard and then just feeling like you're not good enough for all these things that we can tear ourselves down with what? About yourself in this process. Fund a lot and there's this season of every. I feel like it's like you never have arrived and at some point you're like man, I, wish, I, would have her so. I think for me I If you look at it decade. Wise I, think I. I'm very goal oriented I. I love to work I really enjoy working I I think always been that way and So I Whereas with that. I think at the beginning, it was like success and and I think I kinda idolized like I enjoy doing jewelry, but it's like you kind of have these personal goals of of what you want to do and what shouldn't accomplish and I like. wrote them all out and of had any and misses me but I had a kind of the year what I wanted that year what stores I wanted to do and I kind of mission on it and and then I, liked people would say, oh, like your jewelry designer. That's so cool like I kinda liked that I was doing something that no and I always like doing things that nobody else are doing anyway. So I like that and I life like The feeling of Doing something even though it was so hard it was hard because. I didn't really like confrontation I didn't really I you know dealing with stores and I had to learn to do like bookkeeping stuff pricing. I. Didn't feel that should meshes I liked to do what I was doing I feel like that secure in it and even secure about myself and so you know I. Think I went to a season into comparing and you know trying to. To look and see you know and be more aware of what everyone else was doing, and then that could like. Feel. Making feel better in one way 'cause like maybe you're doing better than someone else. Feel like ten times worse. Because like one off the air and that and and so I think over the years I have learned to just stay in my lane at like I? Don't check and see what other people are doing I really try to. Intentionally, do that and to the point like. On on Instagram I've learned. I just have to sometimes mute things and it's not out of like. That I'm not them but it's more I realize like that getting the off mentally a little bit of what? I know I need to do and so that's been really freeing I think motherhood with another part that. The way, a ton of time, and it forced me to be creative with the more limited amount of time if force meets you all of a sudden. Take care of like. Me Trying to please people all of a sudden the mother you realize like you're not, you know there's someone who's going to be dissatisfied with your work pretty much every day and even though they love you and it's like you're going to get a lot of negative feedback in parenting and the positive. Sometimes the problem is not verbal, but it's like I had to become a lot more comfortable with negative feedback which actually helped me and work because it helped me. To separate were from family and friends who I was the first thing to wear now like I enjoy what I do but I'm not so wrapped up in it because someone does not like some things. That's fine. I I don't even I didn't even. Bother me anymore someone wants to do something and then changes their mind like it doesn't bother me I. think it used to be I had maybe more time to think about it. But I'm like, no someone doesn't WanNa. Do something that's. Fine. So I think it's raining over the years I've had to just learn i. think now that what I am learning is. Trying to figure out as the girls are getting older, I need the time to have the more emotional conversations and the more Because it is less and I can't outsource like when they're younger, you can kind of outsource the caretaking part, but then there's this more. Character building conversations that I need to be there and I need to be a most SEAN president for so I think. I had a harder time because. I felt the pressure as a mom to not look like I'm like the longest is working that doesn't have it together with the like I didn't want people that I was designing wet. Think. Oh, she's a mom like that's why this is late. So I like had this internal pressure of like no I. Get it done. It Act like from the outside I do this right and I think sometimes then on my family side, it suffers and so that's what I've been told that even helped with that to of just taking a step back. Really thinking what I can do trying to take on West custom. At least for the season to just really a Bigger out the time figure out what I can and cannot do and and and really not like those. Work Pressure and family pressure interfere and 'cause my kids are only in the first season so anyway Just twenty years I can be super older. I think that that is the struggle of A. Passionate mother and I've I feel the same way and in different obviously, I do something different than you. But like I am the same as you, I, want to be super hands on the sunny. I WANNA to be super hands on with my family I want to be that it's like that's important to me but I also love my outlet of interviewing and podcasting and hosting and I that's important to me. Also I don't want to sacrifice that. So I think that is the constant struggle of passionate working mother is we just have to. Walk that line and find that balance and I think that balance is different for every single season. I like some seasons you can work probably way more because maybe your kids are at school all day or something, and you have all this time where it's like when they're home and they need you and like you're in those that season were, they have hard questions like you said character-building it's like you know it's like you just have to figure out that balance and I think it's okay if we change the balance all the time you know. No one thing I think we have to be open. Okay. I can go a little bit longer. Okay we got. Longer. Than I realized that it is and you have to be open with the changing instead of being like well, ten years ago a year ago I could do the that you've got to be constantly analyzing. Business Class and she made you write out your entire calendar and also write out everything you do in your life and like whether it's like buying groceries doing finance of doing business. So then with that you're supposed to. categorize. What can out sort and also put in the calendar in a do it all and it was the most slating league because that's the way I can do all of this I don't even know how can do this any way or anyone can do that, and so then it was cutting out things as well. So cutting out clutter cutting out maybe commitments that you don't need to do and it was the most like soul searching thing and then I think with coded heading out A little. and. Pink. Nice because all of a sudden. Okay I'm just to add in by. Roy. And because I don't WanNa be like around and France like it was before. So I don't know that's like the he didn't lusting. Lost Down I guess. I haven't I haven't stopped since I was seventeen. Anyway. But I love that you, you told me about this exercise that you did and it was so inspiring to me because it's like here's our day. You have a twenty four hour a day, and here's your year, and here's all the things that have to get done like household chores, family, family necessities, all this stuff and on top of your career and your social life and all. These and whatever organizations and causes you're involved with all that and it's like after a while it's where run out of time. So that's probably super eye-opening to write it all down and to see exactly where you stand and then to make choices on. Okay. Actually, I don't WanNA spend two hours the grocery store I'm GonNa Insta- car you know or something like that I don't know even what? It is. Yeah. No. It's these things and then all of a sudden you feel like it's like the power to say, no, because you're looking at it and I can't do and so I think it's been most empowering to and and honestly like I I didn't like saying even saying no to for testing things. Now, I have more of a calendar of like what I n take on. Through the month and it allows me to look at like why I'm saying no, and it gives me freedom to say, no, I felt like before it's just like, I say yeah, and now it's like I know I? I'm saying no because because I'm trying to say yes to something else versus and you see it on paper and so all of a sudden. But it's so freeing to and I know there's people that say no to everything and so this is not applying to them and like my husband has no problem saying, no, my mom has no problem saying no, but I'm like there is so much freedom for the people that always say when you start saying no, and I remember like the feeling after I did it was like some volunteer thing that they asked me to do I wasn't passionate about it and I said no and I was. What problem is though it's so true. Because if you say, yes to something that you're not passionate about or that you will you're thinking about it. It gives you a lot of stress and anxiety but you feel you have to do it because you gotta keep business growing. You don't miss this opportunity yet, but it feels like resistance it feels like you want to say no but you say, yes, out of fear. But if you can say, no, you're actually opening yourself up for the yes that you really want. But if you but if you say, no, you say yes to that they don't really want then that yes that you really want. You, it's not available because you filled this time with something else that you didn't really want to do and I think that's a big lesson to learn because I feel that same way I've had to start realizing that. No, it is. Just and I think that's just life, but it's it's you're learning to now you have a child it actually gets you more reasons to say, no on things. We actually don't have as much time but but yeah, I think. It's like you know. What I'm trying to do now is think about looking back like if I like in ten fifteen years from now looking back on my life like. Be Glad that what I was doing. You know what I said Yes to the time. The time I spent with my kids what I think that was adequate. The mental focus they had with everyone is that adequate it's been an interesting kind of exercise to to think about. So and often this is so like. Probably have three kids and my always everything back to the miscarriage. To wrap that up I saw this this round was different because i. Really. took the time that asks all the kids. Like how it was affecting them. and. I think I learned that we've had covert and I've been trying to like talk to the kids about like lockdown like what how is it affecting them like trying to be like just just talk through and Grammar and listening to this podcast on trauma and they talked about the guy talked about in trauma. If you're able to name your trauma sudden, you have power over it into this kind of the view. And you're not saying out loud like this situation disturbed me and you don't say out loud. Then all of a sudden it seems like the situation bigger than you and so anyway come and try to do that with the kids and so miscarriage I like talked it through with all of 'em and and then my younger was really sad which has shocked because she didn't seem like she like knew it was going on about it anyway, and she is that she said, it was because I told her that she had pick out all the things for the new baby, which is which I had said and and I think well, maybe we can find someone to Give things to and then she's like well, what about charity and I thought that was a good idea and so I actually like texted a pregnancy hotline and I figured like this would be awesome because they taxed. So like this is like the more like savvy generation and I gotta checks back and I told him that situation and they the the lady expect she said she had a client that That would really benefit from it and she loves to what the client colors, the client light, and then the last minute and she loves elephants. And so my six year old is obsessed with elephants and is what she wanted to do for our eighty with elephants and so it was just the most like kind of bone chilling moment. and. Just check and it was like okay and then it was the thing where it's like we don't know why things happen to us in life but it was like for me to see that it was like You know you can cliche everything happens for a reason until your thing is happening and it doesn't sound comforting sometimes when it's like your thing happening So but then just see where it was like this. So direct that this was meant to be and like I don't have to know all the details. That's why. We had so much fun. We all these things L.. Im's and she got a mobile like went all out. So and then we got to meet the MOM which was the most like amazing. Thing. Should. Just meet her and she with the son he's due in December and apparently on her side because of lockdown stuff the the pregnancy center usually will give them all these classes and parenting classes and even like after aftercare and everything, and there wasn't that that much available and then she had to stop working because she lives with her grandmother who in the compromise and so she actually. Wasn't didn't know how she was going to be able to like. Ford credit or anything like that, and so if like our ran them out of the blue text message. And elephant themed, which is what she wanted it. Just I don't know it's just. So who I felt like to see how God orchestrate in the most minute detail and we don't understand like the whole picture, they'll apply things happen but it was like it's like to know that there was a reason and that and are. You guys were able to bless another family who? Otherwise would have. been a really tough spot. You know you're able to put a blessing on their lives from your tragedy, your pain because you were willing and also because you were willing to talk about it and you're willing to talk about feelings daughter and I think that's so big that you are. You dove in and you're willing to have a hard conversation with your daughters and you got like you said, you got to route their feelings root of their suffering and you're able to turn into something beautiful and have a healing process for not just your daughter and yourself. But also for a whole `nother family and that's the beauty of the able to talk who. I agree I agree there the part of me it's like, okay, Oh this happened and I felt like the first one, the first miscarriage it was so about me like why is it happening to me that I don't even have the capacity to even try to think to reach out something like bigger than myself and I and with this that's where I felt like like dealing with the pain actively not trying to push it aside. It like did I prayed before I went to the pregnancy centers like this is kind of painful. It's painful like The reason why I'm here is head of miscarriage the you know in someone that having a baby and I'm not and like I wrote it out and I was like I wanna cried part of it. That's awkward like I like going head in to the pain and just like. But it was the most beautiful thing and I was like, why? Why don't I just remember to do the all the time and said anything that? Man. Candidate. I feel that. 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Podcast: Breaking News, SHORT SALES Expected To Spike | Real Estate Crash News

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Podcast: Breaking News, SHORT SALES Expected To Spike | Real Estate Crash News

"Welcome to real estate. Coaching Radio starring award-winning real estate coaches and number one. International bestselling authors. Tim and Julie Harris Real Estate Coaching Radio is the nation's number one daily radio show realtors who demand authentic real time. Coaching get ready for flux. Free unfiltered full-strength honesty about what's working to get into action helping others and making money now in today's real estate market or host. Tim and Julie Harris Welcome back to Real Estate Coaching radio guys. 'cause very special guests longtime friend like join. I've known forever Michelle McClintock. Michelle is widely I think believed to be seen as the nation's number one short sale expert. She's been an integral part of our coaching program for just forever. And she was one of the architects of our short sell program back in those seven through nine and since then she's gone on to do I don't even know how my last year here and second thousands if not tens of thousands of short sales. We're going to be digging down into and drilling down into short sales as relates to this new market. The short sale information that allows guys had from back in. You know seven through nine face. I know some of you don't even you don't even know what You know essentially had to do a short sale. We're going to be touching on that on the show as well but really. Here's the bottom line. Most everything that you knew from back then is irrelevant now. So make sure you're paying attention and taking great notes if any further away Michelle. Welcome to the show. Well thanks Tim. It's good to be back. I'm not so sure it's good to be back under these circumstances but it is what it is and we move forward from that So here we are today and it's a whole new world. I'm going to say You know you. We need to pivot on this one. We're in a national pause. I would have to say yeah. I know you know you and I were just We used to talk constantly and dealing with so many agents back in. Oh seven through. Whatever and we'll you know we won't visit the past two on here but the conversations were back back then about what's a short sale. Had the cellar with this problem. The other problem and it was just never-ending problem so we're telling the first short sale on the second you know agents really trying to wrap their minds around what a short so with. So let's start there. What is the short sale? And why would a bank doing great Kwa Greg Great Question Typically Banks WanNa do short sales. It's a less expensive for them Short sale is actually where the person takes set a mortgage. Let's say for example. Three hundred thousand today. The property is worth two hundred and fifty thousand. There's a shortfall of approximately fifty thousand dollars and the banks going to basically eat that shortfall in order for the seller to get you know out from underneath the property and Them not to lose too much money on the property. So guys basically. What she said is a short fill situation. And you're going to be running into these situations sooner than unfortunately you might think a many of you are going to grow any of these situations the first time and there's opportunity and knowing how to solve these problems for people so this is really what you should be taking away from this. The folks on the opportunity. You'RE GONNA walk into sellers houses. The sellers are not going to have an attachment to reality as far as houses where they're gonna add up the first and maybe their second mortgage and then they're going to realize that with your selling commissions are upside down many a week agent are going to just basically bail on that list because they're not going to know how to solve that solar problem assume they're basically they're not going to do and how many agents out there right now have listings that when the houses are going to be priced to the market. But there's been the sellers are going to be upside down a lot of you're gonNA be experiencing a barrage of problems similar to what I just described and you don't have the tools the equipment and knowledge really in the skill set but to push it And that's one of the things that we have always taught you and we'll always teach you as part of our premier coaching program and more information on that in a second but so literally what she just said. It's what happens you're GONNA walk into sellers houses and the sellers are going to be upside down. Which is what the term is when the more than it's worth And then you're going to be able to help and still move forward and sell the house. Now let's let's just get into the weeds a little bit more technical questions Michelle. What's the difference between a recourse in a non recourse mortgage? 'cause agents are all especially those that are green to this topic? They're not gonNA understand. What are the negative ramifications towards the seller well recourse? They can go after you afterwards. and non-recourse they cannot go after you basically And that's GonNa be state specific Most of the banks if you do a short sale on a primary residence for sure you it's going to be non-recourse and what happens. Even in the states where so in some states the re the recourse could be recourse being basically. She and I are not attorneys or accountants. But the gist of it is is that whatever the amount of the debt that the bank forgives they could technically go after you and as sue you for that balance and and so in a after seven zero nine what we saw and I'll have task irks GONNA be more than they but some states have recourse in and they were. It was limited from that time. So he could go after you. For certain time others had no recourse like I think California has no recourse. Are there any state that just have I mean full recourse? I don't think there is is her. I don't know the answer to that. I mean that would be it. You know agents would need to check on that specifically but I yeah I don't think so right and so Like in Nevada. If I remember correctly after you did a short sale the bank could technically go after you for recourse right. Think six months. Maybe Ninety Days. Did you ever hear of any of the banks actually even when they could go after Borrowers for you. Know the default or not for the default but for the recourse. Did you ever have any doing it? I heard of a few and typically. They were lines of credits that they were trying to collect on but Typically you know those were resolvable I I don't know of anybody that I do know somebody that had a line of credit. They ended up freezing her bank account. And we we were able to get that result for her but Very few and far as you involved in like how many I don't I mean it's definitely in the thousands multiple salads. You know so well. I've never heard anyone having. So that's the first thing 'cause you guys are gonNA start believing you know. You don't want to do short. Shell GETS BANK. Lsu You for the difference and didn't have any for who knows if it's going to happen this time but probably not as so. Let's move on from a seller's perspective. Why WOULD THEY CREDIT? Wise what what? How does this work so in? Just walk them through the importance of like not missing a payment for example unless that's changed We do short sales all the time. Where the the homeowner does not miss any payments. It's not mandatory anymore like you know days gone by So often you know. We'll suggest that you start a short so without missing payments if that's not an option for someone That's okay too. You can do short cells with Miss Payment so You know once. They've missed a payment or not. They need to get with the bank. Find out what their options are. There is a program you know whether that will change going forward. It's called waterfall testing now. Where every single person has to be looked at for all options and all options are alone modification short sale dating lou or simply foreclosure and tell me from having that experience. Where do you see generally most people which bucket to the following when you know the waterfall process? Yeah great great question. I mean obviously if a homeowner can stay in their house that is the best option for all parties Especially what's coming down the line now? the unemployment rate is astronomical. Hopefully a lot of that will change in the future. But you know if you are not employed you are not a candidate for a loan modification So the naps next stepping stone for the homeowner after they've missed several payments is to go to a short sale. So in short sell is the best option for homeowners. Because you know it's got the less the less amount at the impact on their credit typically right and so back in the day and I'm hoping you can clarify this again referring or asking Michelle because she's the expert way more than we are. We're more than I am anyway So the advice is not to miss a payment. Because it's the payment. Actually the missed. Payment that slaughters the credit score let alone multiple. Mis Mis payments. But the first one does most of the damage and again Michelle. Correct me if I'm wrong. So he's not GonNa do a short sale without ms payment. Their way to borrow can literally get a government backed mortgage within a short time after the short sale closes. Yes that is true. I mean unfortunately. I don't know of anybody that has done that. I'm sure it has been done Typically you know the person will exit and and end up renting a property and stuff supposedly. Yes there is opportunities to get a mortgage right away Typically how long? What's the credit hit after short sale? And how long after a short sale before get another government back mortgage So that the credit score is going to vary because it's not just based off of the actual short sale. It's how many late payments what else is going on with regard to your credit. You know what you have in credit. What else you're missing and stuff. So it's hard to tell specifically the actual impact of the short sell itself so that's going to vary quite a bit depending on the individual. There is no crystal ball anymore. They used to say it was a hundred and eighty to two hundred points I've seen people where they've done a short sale. They've got you know very little going on and took a very small hit. I've seen you know. People have large hit on their credit. But it will recapture after you do do a short sale. If you've got nothing else really going on very quickly As far as you know being able to get a new mortgage I believe for the most part. It's three or four years after and You know as far as that by the time somebody gets out. Rents for a bit cleans up their credit. If they've had a lot of issues going on they can usually buy the they usually end up with really good credit after a short sale because their mindset changes. That's right they get rid of debt and start realizing basically and importance of their credit So wh what have you seen or what are you seeing the the facts on. Well let's first of all let's talk about. Where in the country do you see or you're experiencing the largest increase in short sales Because most people are gonNA have the mindset. We'll hawking the resort GEL. Everyone has equity in their house. So I'm GonNa just answer my own question and let them sell back for what for me? So here's the thing that is true for the most part during at least the majority of the last ten years people have been required to put down a large down payment and the large down payment now has been also. The House of the property of the asset is also increased in value. So you have a lot of folks that maybe ten or fifteen and you know maybe twenty percent more inequity in their homes so for them to get to the point where they'd have to do a short sale obviously a majority of that equity would have to get wiped out through depreciation Now where are you seeing that anywhere? Michelle are you seeing where you think there's GonNa be a big increase in essentially underwater owners Definitely I mean we still have it here in Florida. So I mean there's still a lingering effect you know from two thousand and eight and onward There was a dip for some reason of a lot of people that that got a new mortgage in two thousand seventeen that have defaulted a gain on those. I'm going to say New York for sure California Ohio You know any of those states definitely are going to be front runners. And what's to come and I honestly think we just you know whether it's a short term or long term effect that we have after this none of us know but there will be people that unfortunately companies that do recover from this and hopefully all of them do but they're just going to downsize or stay real lean with employees and stuff so. I think you're right. Yeah yeah definitely. So what she's saying is she in in certain markets. You're going to have obviously weren't gonNA touch on all the programs are out there as far as mortgage deferments and whatnot. That's definite delayed it. But it's GonNa delays evitable because what what we believe and went. Michelle believes is that you're going to see a lot of these small businesses. That aren't gonNA come back. They're just they don't have they don't have the staying. They barely had this thing. Power to begin with and they're certainly not going to have the desired retool and bring all the staff members that you know that's the big fear that the government has and it's reasonable then employment rate spiked bathrooms. This is the largest unemployment eighteen twenty nine over twenty percent and a lot of people believe it's going to be over thirty percent so the thing there's going to be any sort of shape recovery where things are just bounce back like you're you know at bouncing a ball on the floor. It's just not going to happen and why isn't going to happen because all this is not going to be a three rehire whether the moratorium to stay at home making mouthwash through the end of April some people are saying it's going to last through the end of May who knows the moral story is the pandemic is one problem. That's the primary problem. Be You know everyone's talking about that. Let's not we're focused on this. They Nanteuil essentially the financial pandemic. This is gonNA come as a result of the health pandemic and the financial pandemic is appears to be. We're already in a recession. People are saying we might be intercession but a recession is two quarters of negative. Gdp and there's been more GDP loss in March and then obviously April is going to make the second one and evidently the history of America. So there's the two quarters though we're going to be in a recession And then all these businesses that are leading employees. Go all this Essentially this financial help isn't going to stop the bleeding from any of these companies. They're just going to go out of business. And they're not GONNA essentially they're not gonNA Rehire and you're looking at something like sixty percent of all people are employed in the United States are employed by so-called small business with five hundred or fewer employees. My numbers might be wrong. But you get the gist of it and majority of those businesses are either reeling from the financial crash or just completely out of business or as Michelle suggested. They're going in a different direction and don't have as much staff anymore. The reality of it is this is GonNa change the the employment landscape and so for there not to be parts of the country and this is where like I was on a coaching call with Chuck Williamson and Chuck is an unbelievably incredible. Smart one hundred percent forward-looking agent and we're talking about his area in Wilson North Carolina so Wilson North Carolina. Just to give you an example if you want to know whether you're areas GONNA see depreciation here's here's your here's the recipe for it. It was one of those low the slowest markets to appreciate this last seller's market in other words everything else closer to Charlottesville for example with appreciating and then Wilson sort of came to the party two or three years after everything else did because it was a bedroom community so it's forty five minutes from the city centre. Those are that's the definition a bedroom community. A lot of the country basically falls into that definition or Jillian I used to sell real estate in Columbus Ohio. You the further you push away from the city centre. The less the real estate costs and also those markets recovered the slowest if they recovered at all but those are also the markets that are going to recover the quick. Or I'm sorry they're gonNA crash the quickest. So if you WanNa know where you will most likely fall and you'd market will most likely where it'll be in the domino's when they start to fall the real estate Correction Crafts whatever word you want to use the further out. You are from city centres. The more you're probably going to experience it and the the quicker you're gonNA experience you're GonNa go down further and you're gonNA stay down further. These are just two statistical historical facts. Here's the other thing if you're in a business if your town where the employers you know three or four or five employers generally speaking of us a lot of towns in the United States and you see those businesses right now. You need to look to see what they're doing. Are they laying off people are they? What's going on us? Businesses do a little google searching and you might find that a lot of businesses that have been soured employers for decades. Aren't going to be around or again to Michelle's point they're not going to be around in the same forum you need to know when that demand goes away from people wanting to buy houses because the run employed or they're underemployed that's going to be an absolute precursor to another crashing market. So Michelle is. I was giving my moral there. Anything come to mind other than on my God. I can't believe we're living through this again. Yeah I mean it's it's back I mean I I you know I mean I've had people say to me that You know the the market's going to recover it's GONNA rebound. It's I mean. We all hope for that. Believe me But it's just it's impossible for every person to go back to work you know I I. I hope I'm wrong. You know but it's just not gonNA happen and and people are Calling their mortgage companies trying to do for the banks for example Bank of America I had a client call me last night. They called I. I told them to Call Bank of America. Which is lender. They're lender basically said to them. We are working on a month to month basis. You will get a forbearance for one month and then we'll reevaluate you next month He's basically said to them. Look my employer. Furloughed me today He has a he's got his own mortgage and then. He took one for rental property that he has his rental His tenant basically called him last week and said I am unemployed. I cannot pay you on April first so not only you know. Did he just find out yesterday? That he's furloughed he his tenant is not gonna be paying him so he's getting a double hit and literally. He knows he's underwater even on his rental property it's going on the market right away and we're doing a short sell. I've already determined last night that he's underwater honest on his rental property it gets so the market the no. This is your ex excellent example. Because that's true for most of the country. Everyone's basically been doing that because the rates are so low and now it's a great time to borrow and hoping it's just the inflation of another asset bubble which comes from a lot of this. You know Fed Mall Monetary Policy. But we're not gonNA talk about that so if you want to know also the markets that Michelle and I saw a crash. The fastest in the worst stayed down the longest. It would be like the ones that you just described But really also you're looking at any sort of second homework. Those markets are going to take a beating second home agents. You some of you guys are still doing good. But I'm telling you if you gotTa know the demographics you gotTa know what's going on your market And there's a really good chance that a second home markets are GonNa absolutely go down the quickest any markets that are saturated with the owes. Guys go onto the RB. Oh and see what the rents are right now for. Vr B. O. Sprint Day many prices have just gone to zero airline tickets. You can fly anywhere in the country for fifty bucks. Basically so what we're trying to tell you is use your common sense and realize what's coming there's looks like there's going to be an absolute nation in the commercial real estate and really paying attention to that And so to Michelle's point also with regards to the mortgage for variances. Were doing our best to keep it in front of that information. One of the things you guys need to know. We've prepared all the latest information on all the bail out programs that are available to real estate agents which by the way Michelle. We should talk. Housing is that they are even creating programs for you. Know Normal people but in the regard Sorry in between cups of Coffee. The results are with regards. Mortgage forbearance is the there is no uniform mortgage forbearance policy yet. But it appears that there's going to be what we've been reading is that the mortgage servicing companies and the servicing companies. A Big Bank like Bank of America Wells Fargo. They're seeking guess what a bail out specifically to cover their To cover twelve month mortgage embarrasses and what we're predicting and I hadn't told them this it'd be interesting to know if she agrees is we're predicting that there's a uniform relatively with quotes rather it easy way to get a mortgage forbearance. If you just say you were affected by You know the virus the Wells Fargo. I know you can get a ninety day mortgage forbearance relatively easy so all of you guys no matter whether you're having easy route for a longer term forbearance or even if it's just a thirty day one like you just described. You absolutely need be putting everything that you own into forbearance and that includes rental properties second home primary residence. You need to. If you're preserving your cash you need to be doing that immediately. We have all the information about the banks. Contact Information's all the information's on the S Sba programs all the information on the Patriot. Paycheck protection programs. All everything that you need is available and all you just text the word survival. Two three one nine nine six just text the word survival two three one nine nine six and you're going to be given instant aspects exit. I can't even talk access to tells you how much I've been talking. I'm literally getting tongue tied on all these shows. We doing what you're going to get. You'RE GONNA GET IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO OUR Free Coaching Program in that coaching program. You're going to get all this information that you need to know about The exact steps to put all your stuff and forbearance to make it so you can take advantage of all the programs that are out there. We strongly encourage you to do this immediately especially the SBA once the paycheck protection ones. Because once the money's gone it's gone. These are these are loans that are GONNA TURN INTO GRANTS AND THE GRANT. Money is limited. If I remember correctly to three hundred and fifty billion wants money money is lent out. You Watch guys. It's GonNa go within a week or two. Maybe maybe a month the probably a week or two because essentially everybody is going to be eligible for an interest rate essentially reduction or a zero interest rate or brandt some sort of special deal from the SBA. Even if you're self-employed so every single one of you listening right now must be texting the word survival. Two three one nine nine six So what can we do? You mind if unless there's something specific you have on the top of your mind to talk about. Do you WanNa talk about what's happening in the short sale process. What's changed since for example eight Yeah I mean as far as that. It's the biggest change is probably and I think it's a positive change it's slows down the process. So slow so to speak The waterfall testing. Where the first thirty days that you submit a package for a client. It has to go through the waterfall testing and again. That waterfall testing is to see if the homeowner qualifies for a loan modification then short sale then deed in lieu them for closure They will be tested Based on the package which is still very similar to two thousand and eight talks return. Pay stubs application Bank statements hardship letter sometimes not always But they will go through what they call a waterfall testing and see if they you know. Have the ability to to get a modification now. Nothing's changed as far as if you're unemployed. Which is the mass masses right? Now I'm GONNA say Literally they're not going to qualify for a loan modification so you can throw loan modification out the window the banks want people to move over from loan modification if you are not able to say keep a property or keep your home to a short sale and that's where agents come in tenfold. So if you are you know either. A new agent or pasta agent. This is a spoke that if you took out of your you know off your wheel you've got to put back in immediately You know if you're a new agent. It's a great spoke to start off with you. Don't you don't have to have a center of influence a mile long or past clients or anything. This is a great spoke for you. We you know it's funny when you're talking about those remembering back all the shorts L. calls that you are always co hosting with me back in those seven and eight and I remember saying constantly telling them. This is something that they need to know. Obviously because then it's GonNa put them in a position where they're gonNA they're gonNa Competitive Advantage and you know what it took until two thousand nine two thousand and ten in all the ages that have become monstrous and their markets because they had the skill set then basically. We're able to make all those folks in this of influence and past clients and and some of the agencies started back During that crisis have since become some of the biggest names in real estate because they knew things that other agents didn't know at a time when obviously a lot of sellers needed that skill set. The bottom line is they did what they didn't want to do and they didn't want to do it at the highest level and we're in another one of those markets again the old marking guys. The one that most of you have grown up in has been based on relationships. Really at the end of the day was even about what you knew is more about who you knew. And that's the reason that silliness like social networking and all the things. You guys thought was relevant. All that stuff is invested so much time in. That wasn't ever really professional. Is just basically time-wasting activities and you then get business from your influence and past clients all the while you're making you know youtube videos thinking that's what's doing it. You're going to quickly realize if you haven't already but those things at the end of the day weren't doing anything to get your business. They were just essentially a way to distract you from doing the real work the real market. Now where the real money is going to be made is doing the real work of real estate which is going to be able to have a skill set having a specific set of tools. And your toolbox so you can solve multiple problems for different types of sellers. Walking to a sellers house nowadays is completely going to be a completely different experience. It's crazy to say but even a month ago a month ago in most markets that houses were worth more. The houses would sell themselves. You could put a house that was in crappy condition for sale and it would still sell it off with multiple bids for the most part in most of the country. Those days listeners are over and they're not coming back. You've gotta do yourself an enormous favor and stop fighting with that in your head and stop believing full. That are telling you there. The market's GONNA pop back because it's not it can't be UNIM- just lifting are you know. Essentially probably grading on too much the unemployment numbers. That's what's going to be the ultimate precursor to a long-term real estate crash correction. Whatever your fancy adjective is. That's what's going to be the thing that's going to be the downfall so the financial the economic pandemic is going to affect more people. Believe it or not than even the health pandemic dead. This is absolutely skill set. You need to know Michelle. What are you seeing? I mean I would think in your possession you would notice if there was the banks. The banks were anticipating a huge increase in distress. It'd be staffing up again. Because they know they laid off a lot of their distress type staff and the banks. Are you seeing that? What are you? What are you seeing from the inside? I I honestly think they will be. You know for sure I mean but to to speak to that right now today The short sale departments loss mitigation departments are on overflow. What used to take me five minutes to call in and get you know a negotiator speak to someone about file is now taking between one in two hours So the workload for them is just increasing. Yes they're they're speaking to homeowners that are looking for forbearance but that's just GONNA keep expanding they're going to need more employees to handle the forbearance initially and you know that's GonNa Shift. I believe too short sells period. You're asked to And yes guys. Someone with equity might even need to do a short selling some weird situations if they have to get the household bats enough and the equity isn't enough to cover all the the you know you've got property taxes if someone hasn't paid that and there's strange liens against the property you've really gotTa know what you're doing these situations And so we've got your backs. We are obviously retooling. Short sale program. It's part of our premier. Coaching Program Premier Coaching Students. You're going to be hearing more about this because as we do with everything. We're keeping you way ahead of the curve. Julian ICEBERG TALKING ABOUT SHORT SALES. Back in two thousand and seven. How did we know the short sale micro was returning Because we are listening to all of our cartoons students explained that. They're having all these problems with their sellers near underwater underwater and we knew it was going to be essentially back then and economic pandemic if you will for a home equity that same thing's going to happen again and how soon it's GonNa happen with all this and all this economic twinkling. We don't really know but it's going to happen. It's inevitable the choices for most sellers you know essentially between two bads right after the forbearance is after they you know the the handouts basically stop the bailouts. Whatever YOU WANNA call. And then they're GONNA be face down with the fact that they either can't get a job that pays the same amount of money can't get a job at all or just some situation in their lives have changed to the point where they have this. House. That's become something. They need to get rid of their choices. Either going to abandon it and essentially trashed their credit through a foreclosure. Or it's going to be doing a short sale. This is assuming they can't do any kind of you. Know loan modification in those situations. Do you have the skill set to help those people through that decision tree. Do you have the skill set to help? Explain them under shorts L. S. Imagine how confident you'll be calling expires. And other sleet sources that we teach you as part of the Premier Coaching Program. Imagine how confident you'll be knowing that when you pick up the phone there's a fifty percent chance in some markets are going to be talking to an owner. Who doesn't know they have the option of a short sale? Maybe they're old listing agent had given up on them maybe other agents who they've spoken to don't have the skill set that gives you a competitive advantage in the marketplace. You know on a I'm thinking back to all the agents Michelle that you're not helped back in the day and how they how grateful in-house thankful they were. I think ultimately. That's what keeps me focused on this type of content and material knows somewhat depressing to be. Honest is the reality of it is there are so many agents but we don't teach them this Quickly and efficiently. They're not gonNA know and they're gonna be the ones that are experiencing financial hardships. You know emotionally. This really takes me back doesn't it? What do what do you think you? I'm just curious I mean it's probably the best thing that has come out of this is and I think about this often recently is when we first listened in to your program in I think two thousand and seven or eight or I don't even know and it was probably the best call ever and changed our life as far as real estate and in general. I mean you know you guys taught us To I'm going to say be lean as far as you know what we were doing financially personally to you know how to succeed in the marketplace when it crashed very quickly And you know I mean my thought processes at him and set it at a day. You know. There's no playlist. There's no history books you know and and I keep thinking there are no rules right now. You know the rules are all changing and so in my mind Harris rules. You know I mean twenty bucks and it's certainly comes into play right. Now I mean really you guys are on the forefront of staying relevant to everything that's going on and if agents want to succeed in the coming years as they need to be listening and adapting to the change in just so you guys are clear. Thank you for all that. Shit and just as clear. Michelle wasn't looking forward to this. I promise you Jillian and all our staff and coaches weren't looking forward to that so if you hear some hesitation my voice that's real because we just didn't want to have to coach agents through another market like this because this is going to be really frigging hard for a lot of people because not because really honestly learning the process of doing shorts L. for example. It's not the only thing you know shortsellers not certainly the only spoke that you need to have on your lead generation wheel for sure But it's not that learning how to do it difficult matter of fact if anything. It's gotten easier since oh seven. Oh eight but we're really. What challenges is moving? You guys passed your own emotional attachment to the belief that somehow things are just going to bounce back to the way they were all the cycle all the doctor filling of the agent you know really at the of the day all the psychology and sort of the coach the calls and the extra tacks. I've been getting inundated those and so as Julian all of our staffs last really three weeks. 'cause you guys so many of you were caught in this never never land between the old market and the newmark. Then you're literally not moving forward and you're hoping that the old market happens again. That's an enormous mistake. That's going to be the very thing that kills most of us financially. Because you're not moving fast enough forward you need you. Just forget that the market is gonNA come back. It's not no no hopefully. Maybe it's possible but it does but it won't but it does. It is possible. We could be optimistic right but it's just not conceivable that it will so let's just let's just play the hand we were dealt right. Let's just accept the fact that in this new market? We have to learn to do the things that frankly we never learned in the first place and by you know we. I mean most of you guys. So you're going to have to go back and you're GONNA have to accept the fact everything virtually everything that you've been doing for the last ten years. I'm not going to say it's completely irrelevant. But it's mostly irrelevant in this new market. And that's a that's a bitter pill for our beauty swell and so here's the mistake again. You'RE GONNA make you're GonNa look to validate staying where your office staring putting a mentally and emotionally. You're GONNA look for things to attach yourself to people that are going to reinforce the idea that you don't have to learn anything and again back mistake you're going to be somebody basically who's a year from now eighteen months from now you're GonNa suffered needlessly just because you didn't take the time to take action on the things we're asking you to do. It's not that complicated guys but the complicated part is the emotions that are holding you back in. You know it with boats right. There's these things that keep a boat tied to a doctor called mooring lines. You need to cut those mooring lines so that you can go to the next level and there isn't a competitive advantage. Obviously Gonna I knowing how to solve these problems for people. There is a key competitive advantage knowing how to have a conversation with the seller about complicated things like this. You know we give you all that content. That's part of our coaching program. So I strongly encourage you to do urgently is look if you want to go right to the coaching program. I'll tell you what to do. I'm GonNa give your shortcut. 'cause this is the move that all of you should be making just text me directly in my private cell phone line and just put coach in the subject line and I will have somebody call you back immediately I are. We are already getting incredibly busy for New Agents joining our coaching program. But if you want to get ahead of the line just text me directly five one two seven five eight two six five one two seven five eight zero six and I'll send you directly or new member coaches and they'll call you back usually within ten or fifteen minutes and get you in the coaching program. So you can start learning these things. I personally remember back to all the people that were on those calls that we were doing those seven in. Michelle did not shorts out west. She wasn't even US's and she was Canadian and now all those things have changed but there were there were literally thousands of agents maybe even tens of thousands of agents that we told what short sales were starting in seven and a vast majority of those or at least. I'm not so many of those people to this day are still friends. Followers fans coaching clients of ours. Who will go back and thank us for. Having choked shaken them loose back then and save them from the financial devastation. That unfortunately a weighted most everyone else that was attached to the past. Don't be like that guys. Please take action and all this so if you want to join the coaching program. Now just text me directly five one two seven five eight. Oh Two oh six. Just put the word coaching in the subject line so Michelle unfortunately or fortunately. I'M GONNA have to invite you back on a frequent basis for updates in this markets goes through this New Correct or cycle Anything else like all these guys around the band. Yeah I mean I think you just have to you know. Get on the train and go with it because even for me who's in the trenches of short sales all day every day It's it's GonNa be a learning curve you know even for me But you know fortunately those that join the program are involved in your program are going to be on the forefront of information the rapid changes that are going to be happening What's new too short sale? How to get involved in it you know and how to enhance your business and and if you're not going to get on that train you're gonNA miss out. I mean I it's Y- I. We had an attorney come into Joel. My husband Joel's office at century. Twenty one I'm going to say in two thousand and seven or eight or whenever I happen and that attorney said to the entire office That this would not this market would not last more than a month and boy was he wrong and thankfully we did not listen to him. We listen to. Tim and Julie Stayed focused with their program and I I mean it was the best thing that we ever did. So you know you can be in denial or you can get you know out of denial and move forward period. Yeah and and the emotions that come from thank you again and emotions that come from essentially Knowing how to help people when other people can't I have to tell you guys that's unbelievably Grad? It's just it makes me feel so good walking or in this case talking to people on the phone who think they're out of options and saying Mr Seller if there is a way for you to sell your house and avoid foreclosure And you know not trash your credit in some cases be able to buy a house sometimes in your future after the short sale. Would that be something you'd be interested in and they're going to be going like what I mean. These are the conversations that you guys need to learn how to have if you choose to be relevant in this new market so there it is. I hope hopefully guys will know take action and all this. I know because I'm not you know I've been doing this forever. I know all of you will. I know some of you guys are going to be in contact with us in a year or two. And you're GonNa say you wish you would have so do yourself a favor? And if you're not absolutely saying the urgency and moving forward with this information now you gotta ask yourself with. Future Future version of yourself. Wish is the current version of yourself would have done and look guys if we are correcting on the. You know. We're hoping the best but we're preparing for the worst. So maybe the worst isn't really going to happen and maybe things are going to essentially right themselves within a year. Maybe a blast even though. I cannot see how that's even remotely conceivable but maybe I'm wrong. I wasn't wrong before but maybe I'm wrong now. It's possible right. That's my tenth of humility folks okay You still benefit from having the knowledge. Because of the fact you're still gonNA run into cellars and your marketplaces. That are gonNA need to do shorts out. Maybe it's not gonna be fifty percent but maybe if it's only ten percent that's still ten percent more sellers. You could have helped that. Otherwise other agents won't be able to you guys see how how the competitive advantage based on goals that matters it always matters it really matters now so welcome to the new market books. Welcome to the scope space market. Hopefully you take that seriously. Do you guys want to Join Our coaching program? Please do by. You know. I'll give you the fast track. Just text me directly at five one. Two seven five eight. Oh Two oh six five one two seven five eight six. If you guys want to just get into the Essentially the the into learn more about the forbearance and all the other things we talked about. Just text the word survival. Two three one nine nine six. Hey Michelle thank you. I really appreciate your time. I know you're busy X. Temp Talk to God. Bless bye bye This program has been a presentation by Tim. And Julie Harris Real Estate Coaching for more information on Real Estate Coaching and training programs visit our website at Tim and Julie Era Dot Com. Remember Tuning Weekdays at noon for upcoming shows until next time. Thank you for listening to real estate. Coaching Radio Tim and Julie Harris.

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Sean Frame

Two Broads Talking Politics

22:18 min | 1 year ago

Sean Frame

"Hello. And you're listening to Sean rain to talking pockets. Are you listening? Hey, everyone says Kelly with chew broads talking politics. I'm on today with Sean frame, who is running for congress in twenty twenty in the California fourth district. Hi, sean. All right. Thanks for having me today. Yeah. Thanks so much for joining me. So I would love to start with just a little bit of background, can you tell me about yourself and why decided to run for congress white, you I was one of those people who talked about politics, a lot, but never thought it actually be involved in them in two thousand eight when I moved to the district I had a young sons and my thought was that I should just get involved in the schools would allow me to spend more time with my sons and also give me a chance to meet folks in the community. So I did that. And I got deeply involved in the school, just as a parent volunteer, as we do. I went and volunteered in the garden program. I started a film class for gifted and talented students. And while I was there, of course, I got to know a lot of the teachers and parents and kids, and it was it was great. Really did bring me into the community in a way that I was really happy about. And of course, it was nice to be around my son's that much. And then on February second, twenty eleven my son's principal. Sam Makara was shot at the school by the janitor during the school day. And, you know, at that moment, everything changed San Sam was the kind of guy who, like new every kid by name he knew every parent by name and more than that he kind of knew every buddies, family situation, and he was one of those people who was proud to tell anybody listened that what made him proud to be a principal was that he knew he was bringing kids together of all kinds of backgrounds and giving him a real opportunity at life. And as a result of that experience, I was asked to be on the committee of parents that would help find his replacement. And that may have been one of the hardest things I ever had to do. I don't think it was easy for anyone. But we did get through that. And we found a great new principal who there to this day. And in fact, it was one the family care award for school administrators. And as a result of that process and being involved in it. I got to know the superintendent of the district and some of the board members. And when a couple of seats came open later, that year they after five run, and I did, and I've been on the school board ever since when you're on the school board, of course, what happened really quickly as you realize you thought you knew a lot about families and kids in your community, and you realize you didn't know anything in my community, you know, like that many percent of the kids at that school or free and reduced lunch and that in our district of thirteen hundred kids one hundred of them are homeless at times. And when you see that you start really thinking, like you know what we're doing at the school district is great. But there's they're bigger problems that we're facing. And nobody seems to be solving this prob. Uh-huh. And so, you know, once when you realize that, then you look at a higher level of government, and what I saw there at the higher level of government was three folks, you know, to in the, in the state house, and one in congress who really don't believe in government at all. And that fundamentally why things aren't happening in my community the way they ought do. And if you care about kids, and families as much as I do that becomes a driving force for you. And ultimately is the was the kernel that got me to here where I'm running for congress. There are veasley ton of really important issues facing the country right now. What are some of the issues that you think the people the fourth district are really concerned with at the moment? So I've been out on the trail now for a few months, and I get a chance to talk to people every day about what's important to them. And it's interesting. So this is a you know, district that was won by the Republican last time by eight points and prior to that was won by twenty six points. So we're moving in the right direction that will say, but, you know, it's a fairly rural conservative district. And so I don't hear people talking about climate change. I hear them talking about wildfires. My town looks a lot like paradise, where the campfire happened and where I live in plastic Bill. A lot of district frankly, looks just like that. And what that means is that, you know, climate change is an issue, but the way people think about it is the threat of wildfire and the threat of wildfire has actually translated into things like people losing their homeowners insurance. For example, when I started running, I was talking to people, and they were telling me these stories about losing their insurance, and then one day, I came home and my insurance had been cancelled. And I realized that this is an issue that threatens our way of life here. Because frankly, if you can't have monitors insurance, you can't your home quickly has little value because you can't sell it. So I've learned that climate change is an issue. But it's not it's, you know, talking to people about how do we fix the effects of climate change is what will actually motivate them to want to do something about it. And I've, you know spoken in front of very conservative audiences who are not in their head and realizing that, you know, we don't have to agree about change. You know, I personally believe that it's real and made and Tom McClintock Representative believes that it's not real and not man made. But at somebody who believes it's real, I'm going to do something about it. And he frankly won't you know. And so that's a big issue here. You know, the other one is rural infrastructure. We in many parts of this district. Don't have broadband someplace that we don't have. Internet at all in twenty nineteen. I you know, have internet at my house, I have one provider. And frankly goes out several times a year often for a week at a time and that means that, you know, many of the opportunities that are available to people in other more urban parts of the world. Just don't exist in our district in many places, and that affects jobs availability that affects our education system that affects so many things, and that's definitely underlying issue here in this district. I mean I could go on their list, and none of them were being handle. I mean, I I don't wanna, you know, when I talk about wildfires, I mean, climate basically, you know, foundation of our whole economy in this district. Our district includes Lake Tahoe and Yosemite and kings canyon and sequoia national park, many of the national forests, the watershed for the entire sixty percent of the water in the state of California originated in this district. And if climate change affects water supply that affects the economy of California, and even affects the economy of the entire United States. So this little district that nobody's ever heard of one of the most important districts in the United States, just, just based on the amount of water that originates here for our state, California, has these, what are commonly known as jungle primaries. So instead of party primaries, you know, there's a primary, and then the top two, regardless of party move onto the general election. Does that change anything about how you think about running a campaign, how you are thinking now this far ahead of the, the primary? Well, I'll be honest. I mean, there's, you know, looks like right now there will be two Republicans, including our incumbent and myself and one other democrat who recently moved to the district, you know, frankly, I would love to see it go the way it does in many of the more urban parts of California where we end up with two Democrats on the on the ballot. But, you know, realistically, you know, I just feel like it's really the goal is to get myself onto that, you know, the general election ballot and then really, you know, go hard at McClintock who frankly, I mean, he may be one of the worst members of congress that nobody's ever heard of somehow he doesn't get this sort of press that Steve king, and Devin Nunes, do or Kevin McCarthy, even but I mean he's so bad. And when I talked to even Republican audiences, there's a lot of acknowledgement of that. I mean, he's the kind of guy that will take a vote, and there'll be a vote in the house, for example. I mean he did one recently. About. I got it was, you know, the vote was actually four nineteen to one in the house, and he was the one vote against it. And it was about allowing families affected by contaminated drywall to allow temporary forbearance on the payments of their home mortgages. So everybody else in the house thought that was perfectly legitimate thing to do. Except when. So, you know my goal really is just to make sure I get through the through the primary the general and really make a point of showing people how little representation they have by guy who ironically his never lived in our district. He's actually represented himself by VERA. You can't make these things up. So you've been rolling out a number of endorsements. This, of course, is fairly early to have endorsements. What, what sort of been the, the process of that would, if you've been thinking who've you've been talking to about these endorsements? Well, the thing is really this point. You know, I've lived here for eleven years. I've been elected for eight years, I started the largest nonpartisan political organization or vision called Eldorado progressives. But now has over two thousand members and it I mean, the whole theme of my election is this is this is home. And you know, Tom McClintock this isn't home for my primary competitor on the Democratic Party who just moved here. This isn't really home for her either, so that people are coming out early to show their support for me and my grassroots campaign. I think it's really important because it shows that and, you know, regardless of party affiliation, by the way, people in this district know me and support me and want to see somebody of their community, really start representing them in an authentic way, you know to, to run a campaign that is of the people of this district by the people of this district for the people of this district. And so these endorsements. Are really about showing that. And, you know, I'm proud that so many people in my community and across the district have decided to get involved early and show their support for our campaign mentioned that you have sons in that, of course, was a reason that you were running for school board initially because of the issue of school shooting. What are some of the other ways that having kids that having sons has affected your your world view in, in the way you think about the issues that that are facing the country right now? Yeah. Well, I mean for, I mean, look, any issue that you think about, you know, you start thinking about your son's there's a joke in our district, and it's kind of a bad joke, but it's true. People say, what is what do we export in our district, our water, and our kids? So when I think about the, the job situation here across this district and the lack of Vail ability of good family sustaining jobs. It makes me realize that my son who have aspirations at a great life. May not come back here and I think that's tragic. And I think a lot of families face that, when I think about climate change, and I look at things like the green new deal. And I realized that, you know, they're saying eleven years and game over, you know, my son's will just be starting their lives in eleven years, that makes it really personal and really visceral to think about these issues, they aren't hypothetical to me, you know, they are issued that my son will have to face, and I wanna be able to look at them when, when my time here is done and say, you know what I did every last thing I could for you. And I think I think all parents look at it that way, you know, I mean, you know, I, I know growing up, like, you know, a good portion of my childhood, I was growing up with a single, mom. And I know that she had to work extra hard is the nineteen seventies. Because, you know, there weren't a lot of single moms around eating to get a job and keep us in a good house, but she was willing to do. Do anything she had to do to make sure that I myself and my sister would have a good life, and that's the value that I bring to my family and by extension to this campaign. What do you kids think about you running for congress? Well, my son calling, who's just finishing his sophomore year, actually, he'll be home today sophomore year in college at Cal poly. He thinks it's great. I mean, I think they both think it's great. He's a little more shy. So his, his whole point of view was like, oh, boy, I hope this doesn't become part of my life to, and of course, we laugh about that all the time because, you know, there's no really real avoiding that my son ever, he actually is a little more politically oriented. He went to Washington DC with me for the March for our lives as somebody who was in a school that experienced gun violence, I think he takes issues a little more personally than his older, brother. And so he'd been a little more out front. I'm hoping to get him out canvassing with me this summer during the break, and he's actually gone. He's actually been my great speech editor. So when I when I first started working on my feet, he would sit there and listen to me, and go dad, come on. That's a logical fallacy. You gotta stop doing that. You know is a great moment is apparent you're like on the one hand. You're like, oh, come on. I thought I wrote a good speech and on the other hand, I'm so proud that he actually like listening to it and thinking about it in a way that, you know, put themselves in the audience role. It's great. You know, family experience, there's no getting around that. So you mentioned earlier that in the twenty eighteen election. Tom McClintock, one versus in general versus a democrat by about eight points, which was certainly an improvement over the previous few cycles. But that eight point gap is still a lot to bridge. You know what do you see sort of the the path to victory here? How, how do you see yourself being able to bridge that gap really three things? The first thing is we, we need to build on what was created lifetime and prior to the twenty eighteen cycle. And this is probably true all over our country. People here were not very, politically active frankly, I think everybody's just accepted things as they were. And then you know, something happened in twenty sixteen. I'm not sure what it was. Somebody may have been elected that got people really motivated suddenly in a way that they had never been before. And I mean I could never magin you know, when we went out to coffee with eight people in November of twenty sixteen that it would grow into a group of over two thousand people who raise their hands and say, I'm progressive here in El Dorado county, and I think that happened that was repeated throughout our district. So people who had never phone banks or text banks written a postcard for a candidate or donated to a campaign, canvas. They got active and they got involved and they got really good at it. I mean, they made an enormous change in our district in the way, the votes, have gone if we build on that this time, we can really, I think we can just that alone. As a starting point makes it much more likely that we'll get it over the finish line. The other the other part of it is that I think an a missed opportunity last time was really talking about things that matter in the district in a very. Personal way. So not talking about national issues, the way they're talking about on MSNBC and Fox News, where people then just go to their corner, but talking about how they translate in our district. Wildfires versus climate change is a good example, rural, hospitals and prescription drug prices versus Medicare for all, you know Medicare for all, maybe the solution, but I may not be able to convince people of that, but if I tell them we have to find a way to make sure that our rural hospitals, stay open. And that people aren't rationing insulin. Something that actually happened here in our district, then people start relating, and deciding that, yes, we do have to do something about this. And again, when we talk about this when I talk about this with my neighbors, and we all realize this is our home, and that we have to do something here together, and that's a way to really bridge, the ideological gap in a way that hasn't been done in artistric before. And it isn't often done. Anywhere where there is, you know, pretty oppositional situation. And then I think the last bit is we really have to hold prom McClintock accountable for all the bad boats. He takes the Blue Wave brought in a democratic house of representatives. And now it's on talk makes a bad boat every day. And I don't think his constituents are fully aware. So I'm really making a point of telling people, hey download and, you know, get an app that shows you his votes and make sure you share the that with your neighbors, because he doesn't he shouldn't get a free pass for these those. So it's like to mention to our listeners that if you're going to go anywhere in the country to campaign, the district with Lake Tahoe and Yosemite. Might be. The one to hit make vacation of it. And you know go to Lake Tahoe and then knocks him doors. So if people would like to get involved in your campaign. How can they do that? Well, they could certainly go to the campaign website, which is frame for congress dot com. That's frame in frame of mind and the number four and then congress, they can follow on Facebook at frame that frame for congress and Twitter frame for congress all with the frame, and then the number four and then, you know, obviously, look, you know, I'm, I'm running grassroots campaign. I'm not taking corporate donations. So, you know, donate at frame for congress Sokhom to I have to do this one individual at a time. And, you know, I'm running against the guy who's a big coke brothers guy who is happy to take as much corporate money as you can find to keep his position in congress. And I think it's important like I said, I think this district has a level of importance in our nation, that most people don't realize even people in California. Where is the fourth district? The third largest district in our state. It's hard to miss your right. You know, if you're gonna come in support campaign, you'll find many places that you enjoy spending time whether it's summer a winter. I mean you can come in hike and boat and camp. Or you can come in the winter and you can ski and snowshoe and, you know, we have we have it all here. Anything else that you would like to make sure that we talk about today. Well, I think that we haven't really talked about some of the issues related to family that I think are so important. One of the things about being on the school board, as you really get to know family situations. And, you know, we in this country and in our district have real challenges with child care that I think needs to be addressed. There's a crisis in, in our area for sure. But I imagine in many other parts of the country as well. And, you know, we have an older district here too. So one of the things I've learned about we actually have real challenges with senior care, and as a card carrying member of the sandwich generation, you know, my wife's mother is, is needing constant care in home care. And that is, you know, at enormous challenge. For our family. I know lots of other families have the same situation where they may even have young kids and a senior secure for at the same time. So I really wanna make sure that people know that I like to see some you know, an emphasis on carrying Konami the Georgetown center on poverty law, without a white paper, about the carrying economy that pointed out that we could do better with childcare, and we could do better with senior care. These could be good paying jobs, family, sustaining jobs that would have less turnover and the impacts are Konami would be a net positive because that money that is spent on those things you can imagine the magnifying effect of that. Like, for example, my wife works half time, because she spent the other half of the time, taking care of her mom, she would be working fulltime, if we could find fulltime around the clock care that wasn't going to break the budget. And I, I know many families and mothers, who do the same thing. They may be work halftime, or don't work at all because the cost of childcare is so significant for their families budget that it's makes more sense to, you know. To, to stay home. So I think that there are a lot of opportunities in the, you know, in the family and care situation that we could do significantly better with, and these are things that I would like to bring my district, but also we could do a great job, bringing entire nation. Well, Sean, thank you so much for taking the time to talk with me today. And thank you for running, I always love seeing people stop up in run in these districts with a Republican incumbents that just have got to go. Yeah. I'm really proud to run as the progressive, and, and where my progressive values on my sleeve, and also help translate them to people who might typically vote Republican, but I do think there's a way for a role, damn Democrats win. And I'm glad you have me on the show today. Thanks for listening to, to broads talking politics are song is called, are you listening off of the album elephant shaped trees by the band EMU Newry, and we're using it with permission of the band, our logo and other original artwork is by Matthew Wesleyan and was created for use by this podcast?

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A Father to Be

Fatherhood Friday’s

29:16 min | Last month

A Father to Be

"Stopped. This is your. Data at the. leppings point apparition tool tooled. Over computer to your. Pocket. Ernst Stop Five Breaker already. McClintock. Everything every need to touch. OF THE POCKET To. Pay. Was your whole? Life. Next. Fatherhood Fridays season for. y'All can you can hear you? Loud Glen. Just excited. Excited this week man I been trying to get this brother on air. Well, I can tell you for sure that there are no perfect parents. And you know. I, think one of the biggest challenges I think promotes the DADS in general is that parenting you you sense it it's one of the most critical rose that you're gonNA play in like. My My feelings on that. He's got so far. Chilling in the back at it again is. The most talking to you coast to coast Mr Nemo Egg Tangy. Need Mo note does know could I stay woke? Important. What is important today welcome back of bothered Friday season or man a lot is going on in the world. With fathers and just for the record. Her from pharmacies, women that men or read off open up we all enough about what it is to be a man. We'll open up now what it is to be father and. I'm going to be joined by somebody today I know property. We go back maybe ten at least ten plus years in the comedy circuit in different Colorado, my man from North Carolina. By way of bojangles where you can get those chicken biscuits and those blueberry muffins. ICE and. Audit. Alami interested in front of Mines Ason Keys, how you doing today, Matt. was was man was the pope air biscuits that's what you're talking about this morning or. Whatever time? North, Carolina knows about bojangles and that seeking biscuit and burberry. Biscuits. To. Mac Yeah they go bury bitch gets mad. I'm telling you that by. bojangles so. North Carolina one time and went out bit was one of the first place. This person to be got stopped by coaching I didn't even know what it was but insane my life forever. Tally. Everybody knows about Jack when you go to you have to go to. That one of the things they got him into airports too I know they got in Charlotte Airport and I think the Atlanta airport they gotTA, bojangles up in there. If you even stop and the hub right a right there. So you say in bojangles at this point is not just the north. Carolina thing is regional now is regional yeah yeah. Okay I'M GONNA keep that in mind I thought it was just a Carolina thing but okay okay now, right You've been up to I, mean no. For those of you that might be listening for the first time Jason. To tell a listeners out there who are worrying from and just a little bit more about. Oh you mean a bio I cool man I give him the foolish, right. So No, not completely. But at the end of the day man from North Carolina you saying. The end up finding my way out to Colorado and got into the comedy circuit while I was in Colorado and You know comedy you don't always pay the bill. So had to go get a real grownup. Yeah. I could pay my bill and You know just kind of get home at life and that creativity there. But you know go out there and have fun with like the and and go to work and do things like that. They've got to pay those bills you know. Right I mean, why did you take your boil here? I had to recalibrate into a podcast because I have to keep the creativity going. While paying the bills at the same time a heartbeat. Yeah. It is it is because it's almost like. The they they make. You feel like a trade at the craft you not doing. Absolutely absolutely man so. You said that you know by way of Denver comedy you out real job. You've also blossomed into a let me just say marriage and now you have a daughter on with. Mad that is also true and that's the and that's kind of interesting because. Those are like the two parts of right and so it's like I have this man I'm still. Single Bachelor right. But at the same time I I made these decisions to get married and and then also start a family and and all those things as well. So So yeah, you know it it's it's it's both of them or me you now I guess it just depends on what had away right there's sometimes I don't necessarily know what audience. 'cause I gotta wear so many different hats plea were in home. You know the family and all that. Ended family. So I, mean, unless the little bit of time. On this half of father. Writing. What is your daughter doing man? That's an interesting thing right so The technical due date is number twenty fifth but the doctor telling us to be opened for a for them the gadget something a little bit sooner. So maybe even donated two weeks from now you know. So. What's interesting about this and you Kinda just let the cat out of the bag by charm this airs live. You'll probably be evolve right? Right right right. Second thing. That's interesting about. Of Possible Child September. Finn is my son is born September twenty. Out Night night night. So, so You got a lot of things going to mind say where it's different hats talk about what? You are preparing instantly financially spiritual practice for you. Man I can't even really put it in the word everything. If that makes sense it's like. It's like drinking from a fire hope. Like are you ready? is like no, well whether you're ready or not. Here it is and it's and it's a lot of that you know happening and. Wow, there's there's so much to kind of take hold of and realized like because it's like, oh my gosh just a the whole of the person. It's not like nothing that you can give Nay. Man. They'll. They'll figure it out for this right now no no, they won't figure it out for this sale, right? Somebody has right right right right and and that's the and that's the whole thing about it, and so it's just like how do you prepare for all that Bacon about your life where you are A kind of allowing my wife to kind of take that day to day. Viewpoint of the cares of providing her right you know and what she needs to prepare for coming of age meet Friday to be there and help out and support. But at the same time trying to look far enough towards the future that I'm thinking of being that nobody's thinking about. You know what I'm saying. Absolutely man I mean, I'm no expert but I remember having you know my my son. And I feel like you can't for mayor so much to be father because. You're going out to learn once they get there like you know typically you trying to have your dug in a row financially whether it's a house. In a bigger space or you know get no baby cribs taking the MAS. Put Up to creative you know. Different things like that that I did. But that was kind of word. Abut. In really did I really get. Over you prepare mastel until canes and I realize some of the things that came natural and some of the things that were a weakness for because remember the woman's big cured it for not once. So they're already nine eight nine months ahead, right? Right right. Right. When you're will your wife? I you I find out Hey Jason I'm pregnant. What do your mind where you would sided worrying a? Doubtful. Man Our right. Well, it is what it is. Right you know I. Guess I guess for for a while I've just been like. You want children I do to get ready we're ready. Did that make. Just mostly waiting on her 'cause, we're woke up one two years marriage now. So, okay. Okay. So with that being said, it wasn't like we was one relationship. Like Oh man, you got married you had a baby. Month mighty close right that type of stuff right? It's Right, he married we plant planet for Right. So that type of thing. So I think we needed that time get fire sale. Right. As, well as Pars to come in wanting just joke on another left yet. Look. At. Because I do. Go out just. Think about the you know some of the conversations that me and my wife have been able to get have even even before we got married you know that that you know children don't allow you have those don't five compensation on on different adult levels without thinking about Oh. We gotta take back to the kids really really quickly you know and it's amazing how their conversation. Sometimes lower, some of the things that you're. Just out of necessity right you don't have hours to. Life and people hopes and dreams anymore stuff like that. Right I. Mean We used to today Disney's done if it's not done. WanNa. Do it right? Right. So mean that's a total mindshift and or game changer. Do you think Habita-? Baby will will be a game changer for your lifestyle or you think like. Make. Not I I mean I do. I think out of. I think it will because it happened. Must Right can't be can't be the same person definite in the father like you can't be. Can't be a kid yourself. Trying to raise another kid like it just automatically shift dumping those. People do it I mean I guess I should say it should be it should elicit that added bright I'm not saying it always will but but in theory it should right when you're you're you're ready for that plus. Because not everybody's ready. It Out Ryan. Right. Certain. So is it safe to say that? You're at a point in your life where you're ready to start a family. No, I'm not saying that. But. I, I am open to the idea, right Of what of what that would be boom? Gotcha. So your wife immediate, you know she's involved seven eight or maybe eight months pregnant. You know what I'm pretty sure. You'll family found out. had received media bias from your dad or someone regarding becoming nope. nope. Not at all. So is it not because? I don't know is what it is right I guess my relationship, my wife of neat in the, factory. And the. Right. Offer who when and works through. So on and so forth. Right trying to figure out and and have conversations about. How we raise chat I mean. CAPPELLA thing. It's a little bit different for our generation than it was for our paired, right so They were in. The whole more complicated day than it was when I paint. Right and. Now. We're starting to see some the invective that and some of the earlier ideas about making your you grow up in a good school district. Make sure you do. It's like I mean that really make this if I'm going to send him to charter school the Private School. Anyway. Right right. Still there. So you know just little things like that. Don't you think about like I, how how am I going to educate Mike now because it's not as straightforward as it was in the last? You know you can't put the kids to work. That's free. They won't let that. Love Me. I mean, what? What is your answer to? Know to education system as far you know your your your daughter. Eventually coming into that I mean do you think you you? Ray have a play I mean public school with my best plan I'm just like well. I can't afford nothing super special I, do public, and then maybe try to To to from home. I got a degree I think to write. To. And Or or pay for specialized tutoring right try to keep them up on the game because because things have changed so much. I mean things have changed and I think for for any bother to. You'll realize you know the the methods and the strategies that your dad or your uncle or any generation before you if my work in might not work and you have to be open. To doing things that you might not have seen the generation before you do right right right. You know I'll speak for myself like I didn't think I was going to be the God that was going to be changing diapers. I didn't think. I was going to have to read their books at night lives by whole thinking if I was to be honest was was very archaic like I'm providing I'm paying bills. Going to. Work. Liver full-bore aboard. That's what a bookie, right? Right right right right. You know it was a rude awakening to me because. I thought. Dad. Ma Wife take all. She was kind of looking at me like A. Share this that I'm blind share. Share. I don't say that one when I keep you my chicken, we cut all these bills. Man So. Look. That is to buddy to that due buddy. I, mean I hear what you're saying I completely with say I do but it's you know it's it's part of it's part of what he did the American. I. You know and that'll American idea of the family shifting to like. equalness in the household. Though is like, okay who brings in the money with a company children's equal cry and self. Exactly what on the flip side? You still got other industry because I I also work. After you. Say. Those those gentlemen and their families, they would do things like put up. The Port Group for the wise that would say at home when their when their husbands used to go from like technically. North. Dakota. To the oil patch work. Here time and they had to stay there careful with the children. And they just they just they were just like, oh, we just always been lonely gas family. Do they get used to that style it right and? Day and age right when somebody says, that's what I would, and then people come back. They're like now that's not what I want especially educated. And so they're just like how. You. So I it's definitely interesting. It has made me stretch. You know jet trying to prepare myself for outside of that. Yeah and I think you know me The million highs and lows being a pair I think. Inspired needs to save man I need to talk. Platform and just have a platform where. I can talk different issues then. Guys are to that. We might not feel comfortable saying. Is like a support group because now listed like. Late middle that that that is fired that name. That inform me in. So that was kind of the reason why? On Price A. Just said. Right, right? Yeah man it's a it's almost shifting happening You know just up from from my parents generation to generation and and even more. So going through our children's. Light everything they're about the step into my oh, my goodness, right You know and it's my how do I? Can. Still, prepare myself. You know maybe you just hit the nail right on. You know just a touch on you know wearing Kobe. Season Steel and you know kids are acting school and so now for this to learn virtually. All Day. That is a major shift for me not to say that I didn't broad with. Learning, how to use a computer or learning outs? Use different systems. But lowering. Totally online that that's a big shift for. Baby feel like a dinosaur just like. Man This is really going to be the future. For my kids like I don't think. We might not ever go back to learning in the classroom that might be a possibility of. How do you of death? You know. There's something about. Being able to interact with another party. Kick. In a in a classroom, right? Like you don't, you don't flow with ideas the thing. Just, learning virtue like do art and that's the argument. Like even work with twelve, I, work from home. When I can't right they technically what office but with Kobe. Nineteen. And I made with the work from home now but they technically want me. To. And so. For me I can do my job from home. For them, they feel like they're better transmission of information if people, right. Right. When it comes to kids and learn. I feel back they way I think there's going to be dom advantages. Yeah Yeah Yup. Absolutely. It I mean is definitely. You Know, interesting scary. Because I, you lose the social art in. So speaking of you being a father to be NBN open. Do. You feel some kind of way that nobody would be able to join you for you or your wife's are because. I. You know not really. You know it is different. 'CAUSE 'cause 'cause I'm. Just like Oh thank right and And then other things happening like yeah. Right. So it's like it's like. Oh. Yeah. I guess I am at a disadvantage, but the other part of me is by thank God then there's a whole nother loaner part of me. That's why I just the happy to be able to start to understand some of the links where everybody started talking one. Yes. So the idea of which is be your wife really being right on your rate. It did not not at all. Gosh. It man with I mean that's good to know man so I mean we spend all day talking like I'm going more questions forty plus some advice you will want to give a male listener that is becoming a Fox I. Man. I. Don't even know I wouldn't even know where to start if I had to give general it but. I basically say just. And if you listen to this, you probably already now and and and just hold on and keep. Reading Your Bible, keep going to Turkey worship guy and just know is not unmanned unmanly worship. And and go with the O'hare closet if God, because because at the end of the day. When. When everything's going wrong in the House WHO THEY GONNA look? So Right knowing they most likely go. You. You need to have some man typically you ain't got land. And so eight nothing unmanly about worship, and so I would just say everybody crane working side at thanks and Thing on it and I it'll work itself out. Well you heard it first. Jason Cheese, and this is another episode of father who riding. Or? Mass wrapping up what you've do. Is You Go to anchor. Dot Com bother Good Friday's. Subscribe. Or you get the subscribe button on multiple different platforms. sparked by apple podcast Google podcast Stitcher Rafer. Ask locks overcast. Goes on and on you can subscribe you can follow me or. If is pressed upon your heart, you can donate excess donations meeting where nine nine. Nine nine nine and seems to allow me to love may create content in and do different edits and features that you might all enjoy. Until thin you guys say blessed and I'll talk to you later tasting. Iran take care. Thanks for having me on. No problem. Hey you out there boating isn't just going to the polls. On Election Day, any more options like early voting Mellon voting and ballot dropbox are available to more voters in a growing in popularity. A tool created by democracy works breaks down the options. Your state offers for casting a ballot empowering you to decide when and where to vote. For more information, go to how to Dot Thanks. And here's a sneak peek into next week's Fatherhood Friday episode. I think we've got understand about how God trains. One thing personally week we gotta understand it. used. Influence and dot control. Influence, and knock control, for example. And in remember at the outset of my comment, you know these principles applied ministry the applied for a whole lot of other. You don't manage on your some corporation or whatever. You want to be effective trainer or leader. Then you have a choice between trying to control people's behavior. Or influence people's behavior. Can kind of the difference of course empower is. Yeah. Exactly. I need.

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Extending My Family Thru Fostering and Adoption

Fatherhood Friday’s

42:16 min | 3 months ago

Extending My Family Thru Fostering and Adoption

"Stopped. This is your. Data at the. leppings point apparition tool de la tour. Over computer your. Pocket. Ernst Stop Five. Breaker already. McClintock. Everything, every need to touch. Of. The pocket. To. Pay. Was your whole. Life. NEXT FATHERHOOD FRIDAYS SEASON FOR y'All can you can hear you loud, Glen. Just excited excited this week. man I been trying to get this brother on air. Well I can tell you for sure that there are no perfect parents. And you know I think one of the biggest challenges I think promotes the DADS in general is that parenting you? You sense it it's one of the most critical rose that you're gonNA play in like. My. My feelings on that. He's got so far. Welcome back in. Thanks for joining. You are now listening to. Fatherhood Friday season four Your host charmer. And I'm GonNa tell you I am excited. I real. I've been. A MALL SEASON FOR I've been trying my best to get a hold of the run the. whether it's his schedule whether it's my schedule. We just haven't been able to cleave, but I've been trying to give the brother on my episode will long time and now finally got him. And not only do I have on Air Day they'll you that listen to the first time we're GONNA be talking about. Families and family that have. Adopted kids and I know personally. That has taken in I believe. Three kids is that correct? Yeah, we we actually taking in. Eight Out of those eight, we've actually adopted the re. Okay. So taking it eight years adopted three. So without further doom. Allow me to introduce to you a good friend of Mine I've known since college. Lago Brown. Julia how you doing? I'm good man what's up shamass? Hey man you know just just given the fathers. You know these episodes thin and try to empower blessed. Make people laugh and all of the above. I always enjoy listening to your podcast man. I'm glad you're on here bringing hope. And encouragement to a spa this because we we needed out here. Definitely especially in these perilous times Deborah and now you know I'm one of many podcasts that are out there. But each one is different and saw you know you know operating things. That come. From. Different. Perspectives. That are doing different teams to advance the kingdom or have different experiences to advance the king of soul for those of us. That might not know is or not much about law. So tells. More about you are. Yes I am. A. Forty four years old. in Mary now for. Twenty one years I serve as. One of the pastors at Strong Tower Washington Park here. In Montgomery Alabama on the West Side of Montgomery? And been serving as a pastor wanted to pass his here for about nine years. And actually been in full time ministry since one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, nine, so news. minute. As Twenty One Twenty one years man. Here Still here you still. Doing the work of the Lord and so you know some people might ask some people might. Argue like those. With with all the people that you're reaching with all the. People that your your lesson, and that's your Quinton seen the water and sees twenty year the ministry. What gave you You know you and your wife to inclinations and say, Hey, we're gonNA adopt kids and for ban. And that's A great question with a loaded answer. is going to be honest. I really. Didn't have this. Type of service. In my mind It's amazing. All the years I've been. SERVING ON HBO s historically black colleges universities at Tuskegee University in Alabama state, and. Serve in emissions in Brazil and. Going to Orphanage. In Kenya in just been all over the place in. Somehow. Adopting. Children. Was Not on my radar and my wife Ra- literally had to come to Niagara Brother about it. You know we We were on third child. She's thirteen now and I guess two years after my wife was already saying like man we need to. I really want to adopt and at the time I was thinking. s keep trying to have our own and so forth, and so she just met a go and maybe year two later she asked me about it. The same. Obey you know so. So that went on for a long time. Several years. And Okay my kids are you know right now my oldest seventeen, my middle child fifteen and my youngest biological daughter thirteen. Man. We didn't even I wasn't even seriously considered it until my wife Said Bay. By. Like what are we going to do? Can you at least pray about it? I was like man, you know I sure can't. I'm not going to pray. And I don't think they're inside me that didn't WanNa do it I think in my mind I just couldn't couldn't comprehend all that it would take would it would mean and But because she challenged me to pray about it that really. Maybe. Sincerely pray about it and see what guy would have us do. Went on imprint I. Say all right baby, two weeks I'll give you an answer is so. Rarely prayed like Lord. Like what is it that you have for our family when it comes to adoption like what would you have us to do? Man Champions I'll tell you in two weeks. I told her in two weeks. Let you know something bro it was two days. I was in a meeting with a terrace now you remember parents these are. Parents. Don't. Yeah. So we meeting with some passes out of Birmingham. Trying to help us. Help one of our members. Who was trying to go to serve as a missionary fulltime in Thailand And so all of a sudden as air trying to help us you know as a younger on church kind of figure that out they they started giving little stories about their pastor adopting keys. And man they just went on and list of things that he was doing with his own kids, foster care and all of that in Bro they had no idea I was sitting there praying trying to figure out. Would that. Mitt. For our family. I said. Okay. said that to me I don't need to wake two weeks to figure out what? Exactly. Broke I what what year was. That has twenty twenty now. Yeah. So. You've been doing it for years. What year was that when you when your wife decided to adopt? Yeah. That was well, I'll tell you what two thousand fourteen is told holder by babies we need to move forward. Adoption. And so. Essays. Years ago. But then from there, we went into going to the different classes and just trying to learn more about it and then the adoption turn into Ulster care to. To Adopt And so. That that was. You know when you start seeing the need of a foster kids not being able to be insecure homes and safe places to grow up that. Really. Changed. Our ideas with option to say you know what? Let's foster to adopt? So that was two thousand fifteen when we actually had our first. Foster children in our in our care and they were actually siblings. Yeah I, remember you telling me that. I think that was right around the time when I had my second child. I was pregnant. My wife was pregnant second child. And so So squeaky fifteen. You went to the class is. Registered with the stage makes the background just learning. So. Now you got to present this information to the family. What was your biological kids? Initial reaction. And what was it like on? A family of five to now a family event, right? Right Right, right? Yeah. Eight, they recall mandate. They were on board. They were excited about the idea of. You know. Taking in kids. To our family so I. Think the only way we were able to really do it in a transition to be so smooth is that our kids the as they were they were. They're pretty mature. For? Their age I mean at the time with five years ago so They were twelve ten in eight. And we just had the environment to be able to do it. Because at the time, my wife was home schooling. And and so. So yeah, they they were cool air excited and so when are the first to our first two? Kids came. it was it was cool. Now was a huge adjustment because you know each child that you come into your house and your home, they all have different stories. And? Ten Times out of ten if they are in foster care. Bro, like Dave has something for matted. That they've experienced or been experiencing. That's the reason why they had to go into foster care most cases so So yeah man, the transition was fine. We always. Ready. Then when the challenges come like I said every every child is different man you just don't know what you're going to get into until you actually have them in your home. You know they do all they can prepare prepare you to get ready Kinda like premarital counseling like you. Right. You learn all you can about marriage and importance of it and the skills and the practical things to do and how to treat your wife and vice versa. But Bro is nothing like you actually get married. Jumping. Awhile man broke. Yes. Classes don't mean as much until you actually get an exactly but I tell you what though like this agency called a gop April eight, th they threw. They threw the kitchen sink Addis like they gave us worst case scenario, right? Sexual Abuse Traumas, all kinds of things so that you can really contemplate and think about are you really do you really want to do this and if so why do you want to adopt? And Care for these children and so if you got any material, motives would not to love and care for them. And ultimately to care about the things God cares for. Bro You wasting your time. iggy old. Because the challenge is too great. It's a lot borough and it just. You constantly need. Strength Power every day to love and serve. Them. So all say man the transition. It was good. But again, it was a daily. Daily Challenge. Every day is a new challenge. Dependent on the child and their needs and so everything bins to wards. The new children at come in like the key is hair and everything shifts. In in some circles, they call it a cocooning period where the mom. Of. Fix Her attention and encountered makes the the home. A safe and comfortable place for the children s coming in 'cause you don't know. You know you're not really sure. What they've experienced prior to your home. Used at cocooning period of time to on. full-bodied Good Martha. So just intention being intentional about just loving on him hugging him A. Those type of things so that they can. adjust and feel comfortable. Today's new surrounding because sometimes man. Sometimes. These kids been in three, four, five, six homes, different homes. Is So. And so. For them to get acclimated to your atmosphere, your surroundings take longer than insisting exactly. And so you you talked about you and your wife her come into. saying, Hey, what do you think about adoption that you get in the confirmation and Stub. So what was your wife behind it because I know you went to the class news. GotTa understand why you're doing what was you in Antoinette's why behind fostering or adopting is well I knew Antoinette why was because? We're once she loves kids but to she wanted to honor guy and For me. That's that's what I was saying prior per previously man I was like man how did I miss? All these years of walking with the Lord. Lord Heck touched the brother of the freshman at Asu Alabama State University in Ninety Four. Talk about it man I'm light. Do I mean two, thousand fourteen and not really understanding that God's love and concern for the orphan widows didn't. I. Guess Prima Hard or whatever but the Lord is used my wife's. Convictions to open my eyes to see was clearly on God's mining heart. And so it was a gradual learning like realizing that. and. We need that man s the thing is sad to say we're just like the disciples in the scriptures we just. Show US things he does things in our lives. he says, and then we just forget or we just don't see it clearly. And So the Y. became eventually man this is what God Death League's. Desires what desire what he desires? Karan so That's win. So my why? Was Okay my wife made a brother pray. And then she? That's okay. Right. Right and it s guys patients on the brothers. On, all of us and and then it was very clear. With the passers. Talking about foster care and adoption God's use those events to open my eyes is see. Concerned about this from day one. That's just my heart. My why is? You know may God loves horses, widow? He's very concerned about him. He's concerned about him because they're they're the most vulnerable. And they're just. Able to be easily taken advantage of. You know you don't have protection like. That daddy the house. you know phrase praise God for a single moms out there. They hold me down the best they can. Be Somebody that man is not there to protect. Lookout for this folks just coming around come along and just Take. Advantage of him, all kinds of ways so. Got Got God is very, very concerned about those who who are vulnerable in our society. and. been a journey of caring about. You know where he cares about. I asked that question even though it was not on. The question for you to prepare right because I I think there's father's out their families out there that might be listening to this episode right now might be like man I thought about adopting I thought about Bosphorus and. But I think it's important for them to understand their wife because some people might do it as a way of you know generate net supplemental. True or they might be doing it because they can't have kids of their own right you know and so I, think it's important for people to really understand like what you're getting into your y because you're wise. What what a drive you when the days are tough, which would you? Definitely Champs like you. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone has their reasons. everybody comes to this topic or subject with different. experiences and things like that, and it is definitely important to know your wise. When you're wires are in connection into. To God and. The God of the Scriptures. Grow. You can go you can't go wrong. So That's right. That's right. What were the similarities and differences between your biological kids and you're adopting kids. Yeah. One one similarity. Between the two, my biological kids and my kids that all they both. Desire to be loved and to be accepted into it and they both desire affirmation to be affirmed to let them know that they belong. That we love them regardless of how bad they screw it up. Like? That's you know that's across the board s just a human. A human being. We are designed. So that's one similarity I could think of. And I. I would say. You know some differences is that you know my biological children especially when we started, you know they were twelve ten in eight. They've been in an environment for twelve years with normalcy So you know they hit off to school and Go to college like we did. And they WANNA. have to do major adjusting. Trying to. Adjust to their surroundings. New Friends just new everything specially one out of state. But with these little ones with the those you adopt or you bring in with Foster, care. Like they are having those experiences at. Two, three four years old. As, there are major adjustments. So. I say that to say. The differences for them like they are learning on the fly to adjust to a whole `nother family. Like I hold on the. Environment a whole nother set of parents which who knows like where their parents prior were they abusive when they come in your home are you going to be abusive? is it? Not if I didn't eat that much with my prior parents. Are here you know it's So that's That's a difference there they come in and just not knowing. What they're getting. In your mind as as you receive a NAM, you're like, Oh, I love you so much and and you got number one, which is true. But these little ones have to learn they have to learn that they have to learn. And I am loved I stepped it. And this is my family. and. That could be a big adjustment because I think we think like says, kids are so little. Transition receive except love is easy for some kids could be our is You know we have to be prepared for that. As Aaron I know you know when I relocated to Texas I thought it was going to be easy transition for my kids because they were so young, but it wasn't it. It took a minute for them to realize that they're not backing Colorado anymore. Exactly. Right. Right. You know. So I understand that that lawn more than more than you. Definitely. What's What's what some things that you've gained? From from fostering in adopting kids like knowledge. Or insecurity or were what litter one or two things can gain Bossard doubt is about yourself of Ou-. Kids about other people you come across that you share that. were. picked. Up along the West Year. One. Thing that I learned. From this experience of adopting children in foster cares that. God is the Lord is giving us. What we need to take care of them. and what I mean by that. I was very intimidated. And caring for. Some of my children because of the traumatic backgrounds they've had A. Terrible Abuse Bro. I. Mean You name it? Experienced it. And being little. and. Stuff you see in movies. Whether it's someone murder. Someone in the room. With the dead body to trauma I mean, you name it and so when he was on our table to take in these particular children. I was intimidated like lower what do we have to offer to be able to take care of children who experienced edmonds? and. The lower to really. Meet me in the scriptures with Joseph. Remember when Joseph you know notice as mayor, his his his fiancee was. And it wasn't is. Ready to bounce like do look. I I, know the AIn't mind. We did anything you pregnant. Okay. All right. Right I'm I'm going you know what? I'm not even GonNa put you on blast. I'M GONNA I'm GonNA divorce you secretly. Dot Right get stoned to death. he but we're having the lower. Hey you out there voting isn't just going to the polls. On Election Day more options like early voting mail voting and ballot boxes are available to more voters in a growing in popularity. How A tool created by democracy works breaks down the options. Your state offers for casting a ballot empowering you to decide when and where to vote. For more information, go to how to DOT com. Thanks. So we were talking about a few things that you. have. In adopting or fostering. Kids. Yes. Yes. Yeah definitely just. Learning that you know God is giving you enough to take care of him. You know prior to adopting in foster care like. I was very intimidated. And you know you've grown man intimidated by a four and six year old. Home. But the intimidation was or the fear? Was Man. They've been through so much. What can I offer to try to help them along lot? You know life's challenges and so forth and It literally took the Lord to meet me in the scriptures. To be to help me because I was really just. In my feelings, it's like. Gosh. I really you've really want us to take care of these you know. And you know it just connected where I met the Lord in the Scriptures was you know Joseph situation when he found out, that is his. Wife to be was pregnant and it wasn't he is. A you know he was he was wanting to leave and bounce some. You know. Put Her way privately so that you know she doesn't get stoned to death and yet. Lorie Kane and visit to him in a dream and said, you know, don't worry don't be afraid like this is of the Lord. He. Had to speak to my soul like literally like three some in the morning and I, and I read those verses and they was like the Lord spoke in my heart. I don't be afraid though. This meets speaking to your life. Exactly. Right, right. Right. But but that right but this was immediately like we're about to take me like literally and I'm having I'm having doubts. Because I don't think, I'm equipped to do it because of because of their challenges. And that's when he met me in my anxieties and fears in that call my fears borough. Lord and literally spoke to a brother like don't be afraid. Wow I mean. What would you just said in not to walk with? These last two or three sentences caprice right there. Right. Right. I fear anxiety comes right before you're trying to be obedient Mugabe's. At like don't worry. I'm here with you this is meant to be. Exact that's right. It's A especially when you have a hard one and do it for real like. Means days. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. And so I know earlier in the interview, I, kind of messed up on the numbers and so you said a Nissim the. Youth, you adopted two kids of Cincinnati and you've taken in five. That correct. Yeah we we actually adopted three. Okay. But we leave off. We've fostered eight kids total. So out of the eight kids that we fostered only three of we actually. Adopted. Okay so too. So talk about that a little bit baby I'm getting maybe I have the same clarity. What's the difference between adoption and fostering? Right it question a foster care. Where for us when we changed from only adoption to foster to adopt, and also some families just foster just foster just because some kids just need a place to stay for a time. but are the differences foster to adopt means? They're in your home, you have custody of them temporarily. but is not a guarantee that you will adopt them like. They could actually. Go to another situation, another family or someone in their family. is in a position to take care of them, which is the best case scenario like you want a situation where someone in their family would be willing to take care of the child. So foster also cares at temporary. Custody of children. Still belong to. the state. And then adoption is. Where they legally become your children like you whole name change. Okay. Okay. So. So when you come in to foster to adopt, you already need to have a mindset of it's a possibility that we might not be able to. Adopt children they become our foot ever. Children's love forever. Key is okay. So what's your? What's your saying? Let me understand this correctly you've actually done both you foster kids where they've been with temporary lead and then with to another situation of family lousy losing you also adopted with their still with. More on a permanent base exactly. That's right and that was another thing that I've learned. With being in foster care is. was very, this is what I learned man. I was very tempted to not love my foster children. Wholeheartedly yeah I really wanted to just. Give them half of my heart because if I Go into feed in and loved him. And if they A year later. They are no longer in our whole. by WHO's going to care for my heartbreak I guess that that was my perspective. but what I? What I've learned would the Lord had opened my eyes to see Through different experiences and so forth. Is that man you love them fully? With all your heart and trust me. You know if I send them somewhere else like you have to trust me with your own heart when he breaks. in and it took off A. A child who was fostered was in foster care. In her upbringing, but she was older older lady. Maybe in her twenty s so and we're having this conversation about what I'm sharing now about you know. As you know fully give him my heart. with the Lord told me I should fully heart you never know. You never know where you know if they're to be with you but you still need to do that and so this lady's stars weeping at the table and she was like, yes. To hear that because one thing about also kids. They know who apparently that really loved him or not And when you are able to love him with all your heart, even if they are sent to another home whatever they will always have those memories of the loved. Then accepted. even though they weren't able to stay a long time. So. That's what I've learned. man give your whole heart to these kids. Even though. They might not stay. Yeah and I can attest to that. As you being. A good friend. An older brother. A quote on quote mincer to me when out of college I feel like you gave me your whole arm I really did legs and that's why I can still remember you to this day. That's why why slam will have the desire to stay in contact with you to this day because when you? Reach me when you try to decide who need. Could. Give me a whole art. As well so. It was just a pair in. So even though you know just just like you know these boxer kids grew up I graduated from college. Those those memories are still adjusting your mind Day, they won't just you know go away because you're older you're different situation and you're married and you're. Living Your Life, you know they're still they're still there. So. I. Think you know. Between you and and and maybe. For doing. What you're saying you're doing it before. This ideal adopted him foster. Parents. wishing. Good that's. Y- yeah. Looking at it from that perspective I. Yeah. I see where you're coming from and And so that's manfried phrase guy that he would give us hearts. To care. Because really at the end of the day that love for others come from the lower man and I remember them days we were on a campus. And man I'm loved you and all those guys man we had our our group going and. And, I I used to love coming on campus as being which guys. And That's it. I. I love that parallel Bro Doing that. You know. Yet a man is so I could see how. From what you were doing tim, fifteen years ago, high trench translated into you Antoinette document. Like ed we're having this conversation. It kind of just dropped in my spirit it's like. Were doing it before the tie while it's just we were lying older. You know we were young adults in I guess teenagers. You were doing it before the title you know. I can see how women's title. You know if it came alive because a lot of people on. College campuses come with Bang. Yeah Yeah. That's crazy. So you know I'm not saying we're got cartwright, but the love was definitely. while. You know for me and I can attest it. So, as we're wrapping up. We can stay on the fall for another. Definitely. Definitely. You would tell someone that would like to look out for foster children. I I would say especially if you already thinking about adopting. I would say you're doing exactly what Guy Major to do. God made he made us. To reflect him. And what what is it look like to reflect him taking care of vulnerable. And that's that's You know the and the widow. You know sometimes, we think that orphan means and daddy and mommy not in the picture. But if you look at what that means, it literally means father not in the home. To. And So in two thousand and twenty what's the orphan and the widow look like single moms? The widow, the single moms you got the. Kids Daddy not in the house they like orphans. I mean I think anybody that doesn't come from traditional. Negro exactly and so if you're thinking about adopt and like you need to you need to be be encouraged to know you're just you just you just being like the one who made you? And You you go you go you go with it. You move forward in it learn more about it. Just a different challenges maybe find out talk to others who Adopted and fostered. Children and it's not a look. Not End. Up with guy but is is hard though is not no walking in park and it's just it's not pretty either. Is Very difficult very challenging. You're gonNA see your own. Mess as you China help serving blessed each children. Exactly, what you were may four. And then another thing. I would tell someone who's considering adopting his just continue to be willing to to love him. And I continue to be willing that means that's a continue because it's going to be days where. You're going to be tired. You're going to be like man I'm tired of that attitude or I'm tired of this and that or whatever. You gotTA. Keep going back to lower. Give me the stream to be willing to keep. Loving. And And then lastly, just be open to what God does. With your children. We opened guy what I mean by your children. Is it when they come in your home, we gotta realize like a really not our children. They. Really. Belong to God. And here's a sneak peek into next week's Fatherhood Friday episode. Friend Lonzo. Plow. Called me back back He. Around and and and he mouth and that has been as. Just. Love On. A lot of on them whatever. But. To me. You mad at somebody it don't matter just. You Ain't been there and your anyway. That don't matter just love on or loved fell. Back on.

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THE BOURNE IDENTITY w/Paul Goetz and Dr. Steve Ramirez

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45:55 min | 8 months ago

THE BOURNE IDENTITY w/Paul Goetz and Dr. Steve Ramirez

"Hi Guys My name's what is her name. I can't remember my name. Sorry I can't remember name room from anything about myself but I still know how to host a podcast. Thank God today. We're talking about the Bourne identity. A lot of people writing in saying they wanted to hear about a contagion and so we are GonNa do contagion on a different episode. That will be coming up But this is our first remote quarantined episode. But I'm very excited about it. It was so much fun to record and this movie is Awesome Bourne identity rules. I've always loved it so let's get right into it and I will see you later. My Name Is David Frost That can't be it's no I know what it is. It's Charles McClintock. Did the movie or will we have to fight cyber welcome to bed science. I'm easing Edinburgh today. We are talking about the Bourne identity in the first ever add signs recording from my apartment. So that's exciting and I guess somewhat frightening also to help me get into all of that. I have two very wonderful guest first of all You might remember him from What episode was it fall? We did like they've got episode zeal. We did the Gods L. episode. He's a good friend of mine. He's an actor writer and improviser. Paul Gets Hello. Hello good to be back sort of back. Now I am I am I screwing this out. Well I mean a little bit. You're chop your little shop. Feel you're me a little bit delay but we are going to power through and deal with it joining us and hopefully helping us through. This tremendous time that we're all living in is a professor of neuroscience at B. U. It's Dr Steve Ramirez. I thank you for having me. Yes thank you for digitally joining us and I hope this is not driving you up the wall. No not at all. I only pacing up and down my bedroom right now. So can't be too bad okay. Good so maybe we actually blame you for the lag because you're moving so much so that satellites are having a hard time like configuring your location. I am pacing also so we can share the blame. Okay so anyway. We're talking about the Bourne identity today. Which came out in two thousand and two and I was already just off the bat shock that it was eighteen years ago. This movie came out because I remember when it came out and before we dive into it. There's a few things here. I wanted to mention specifically deductor. Steve Because I was looking stuff about you. And there's just a fascinating articles since we are talking about memory. Today our protagonist loses his memory. You famously implanted. False memories into mice. Is that correct? Yeah that's correct. So we had a handful of experiments where we were able to either artificially reactivate memories of mice or actually implant false memories in my says. Well okay now so that people don't think that you are some sort of evil sorcerer for the rest of this podcast. Can you explain why you were doing that? Or what the memories were yes. So what the reason why. We want to be able to artificially reactivate memories is to really figure out two things it's like. What does this tell us about how memory works? And what does this tell us about? How the brain works or how the brain can work really so you can imagine cases where you can reactivate positive memories. Let's say in an animal that we think is model certain symptoms of depression. Or You could imagine being able to really turn the volume down on the emotional oops of let's say negative memory in an animal that we think is modeling things like PTSD anxiety so at the end of the day. It's really twofold. It's to try to figure out. How does this remarkable thing that we called memory actually work and then can we hijack it even to try to give it some kind of therapeutic purpose? We normally don't think of memory as a kind of drug but in this case if we can artificially leverage may we can't push it into that kind of therapy like territory. Wow that's fascinating and so and you're able to have some modicum of success right. I mean you were able to make their do might have depression. I feel like I'm going crazy. Just talking about this But you're able to kind of alleviate their their stress or or remind them a better time where they were meeting female mice gasol basically with the idea of planting a false memory. It's twofold so we can get an animal for instance to be scared of an environment where nothing bad actually happened there or the opposite we get an animal actually really like an environment that it's in even though something good didn't happen there. Okay you think this can be replicated on humans like why. Can we not do this now? Because I'm scared of stuff all the time and we'd love to avoid that. Yeah so we think maybe down the line in a sense because the way that we do this it's really invasive and it requires a brain surgery and genetic engineering brain cells to do all sorts of things and we're not going to be doing that in humans anytime soon and to an extent we don't really have to write like if I want to reactivate a memory in you. I don't have to go in and start engineering your brain to do all sorts of fun stuff. I could just ask you. Would you do last night. And then you got like that memory now comes out of dormancy and it comes back our mind and it's now active so I think that what we're doing an animal's at the very least. I hope can be kind of blueprint for what we may be able to do in humans one day and ideally in as noninvasive of a manner as possible while. Okay Yeah. I hope you're right. Also I wanted to just ask before because I have tons of memory questions. I'm fascinated by memory as listeners of the podcast may know but because of what's going on right now I thought I should bring up the fact that everyone's talking about the virus sicknesses just on everyone's minds right now on the TV's on their phones. And I know that the brain is incredibly powerful in ways that we barely understand. And so do you fear people thinking that they're sick which can turn into actual sickness I think you know there is this kind of you. Can't stress yourself out too much. Of course you can really kind of spiraled down this most anxiety rabbit hole that can exist for sure so I have no doubt that you know with everything with the virus going on right now. This is practically the entire world's mind right now and maybe it depends on the kind of person tune. Everybody is different. Like you could imagine that if you're already susceptible to the effects of stress or anxiety than everything happening in the world right now absolutely does not help. But you don't want the opposite to where you're so free going and stuff that you just kind of ignore what's happening in the world too so I think that a little bit of stress and anxiety tends to be a good thing because it keeps us on edge it helps us from actually making bad decisions and you know I have no doubt at the least lift. What's happening right now in the world that this is really making a permanent stamp on people's brains right. I mean you. Have you have the whole world paying attention to one thing and that rarely happens? Yeah Are we past the point of handshaking? Do you guys think that that's over now for the foreseeable future. Maybe I would really be more concerned about losing the high five personally. I'm just more of a high five Guy Luke but that's rare people don't really high five. You know the time in real life. People don't like it. Hi Fi but it's fun. I like I five. It's kind of interesting because right now I mean like you know. We'll we'll be going through this for a while and this is something that I told my lab. We already shut down and stuff and everyone's at home trying to be safe and have good practices and so on but I told them like the entire world is basically usually the world asks you to be a Good Samaritan Contribute to some 'cause pay for this go out to the world and do something in the whole world right now is just asking us like look. Just do nothing I just stay home and literally do-nothing and it's interesting to see how many people actually have a hard time doing nothing and I mean I'm I'm one of them when it comes to getting a little bit like Ansi actually needing to get stuff done but hopefully hopefully. It's something that with on. Let me just we're talking about neuroscience and science in general. Hopefully that this is one of those things that the miracle that is science in and of itself in the people behind it could really continue to push forward for a cure vaccine. Yeah I'm definitely relying on people like you to figure this out and solve this and I'm trying to stay productive and work. It feels like almost a return to older times in in hopefully good way where we can concentrate on our home life and I don't know what people do garden. I guess play chess. Oh Yeah I mean even you know walking around like just being on my balcony and seeing people walk by people are waiting more than being a little bit more friendly in even though that there is this blanket of tension for sure you could tell that there is a little bit of a withdrawal going on in terms of actually socializing and actually be able to have some kind of face to face interaction and I mean the high five is a great example. I was just talking with my partner about like you know. What if we lose the handshake? That's the elbow bump is going to come in like. That's going to be the new handshake and it's going to be really interesting to see how many of these different kind of norms. We ended up adopting long-term as well. It's it's funny to think that normally you would think of someone not greeting you with a hearty handshake as being unkind but now it's an ultimate kindness to have someone stay away from you right so really nice thing doing right thing. I also really enjoy it. How much of a performance handwashing is now? I don't know how soon I'll be in another public bathroom but the last time I was I was. It was made very apparent that everyone was washing their hands. Under hot water for twenty seconds or more of your washes your hand for five seconds or less. You just GONNA get distinct guy from everybody there because guy. That's really funny. It's not just about like people who don't wash their hands are treated as criminals and the police need to be called. But if you've watched your hands for like five ten seconds and it's like wow what an asshole. I can't believe him. There's no way that water got hot. There's no way I checked it. Yeah okay so let's let's hop into the movie for a second. We'll we'll kind of hot back just because that's how my brain works which maybe you can explain to me. Steve. I like to mix things up but the movie starts if you in case you haven't seen it with Matt Damon in the water. He's found by a boat and he doesn't remember anything about himself and there was a few things right off the top like he has these bullet holes in his back and I specifically because I know Paul really wanted your thoughts if you even notice that like the bullet holes looked like a perfect circle in his back the anyone see that but yeah Oh yeah absolutely. I was wondering it looked like the bullets really smashed flat against his back muscles like immediately like they got in and then they stopped and I was wondering how often that happens and specifically when it comes to that scene. I wrote down the opening sequence with the surgeon. Sailor was awesome. I was like you never get this. You never get. Oh okay immediately. The first guy we see knows just what to do. And it's surgery you. You just get so much information right away. I was thrilled. I was thrilled by the INTRO Steve Dunn Surgery. I think mostly brain surgery but did the did that. Look Kosher to you. Do you approve of his methods. Convenient that you know. The person that's on the boat knows exactly what to do to get to perform the stuff because usually you know this was real life and somebody washes on washes up on a boat late that you're like well crap. I have no idea what to do right now. Other than doctors but it was interesting. The pattern of bullets for shared in terms of memory. Like it's interesting to think of like what were the. What was the kind of damage that happened to the brain whether it was you know inhaling too much water while being underwater or the trauma of actually being shot at and losing consciousness? Princeton's am I really trying to tease out? Which is the one that produced Anisia or maybe it was just a combination of both in this case. Why can't remember throughout the movie yet is? Is that a is. I mean that's like the big question of the movie I guess. Is this a likely scenario? Or even if it's unlikely or if it's a rare is that just a common thing that could happen where you're either because you're shot in a certain part? I thought maybe it had to do with like his spine or yet being unconscious in the water losing consciousness. Can you lose who you are but remember how to do everything in life? Yeah so that's that's I think in my opinion money question of this entire V. on I use this in a class that combines neuroscience in Hollywood that I teach to illustrate this exact point where there's two parts here With regards to what it takes to produce initia- sure like if you if you're underwater and your brain is deprived of oxygen. I mean in just a few short minutes your brain cells are going to start dying and then after maybe like a dozen or so minutes. Then you're in a really deep deep unconscious state. So that absolutely can produce brain trauma it can produce a multitude of different kinds of Asia for sure now with regards to waking up and saying okay. I. There's a great scene in the movie where he's at a diner he's just you know. I walk in here I've memorized already every single car plate. I know how much the how much the guy sitting at the bar ways. I know that the bartender is a lefty and I can hold a gun and I know how long I can run for a mile without losing my breath but then how come. I don't know who I am and that I think there is a lot of basis in truth to that because we do have what we call different memory systems quote unquote in the brain. And then the one that he's missing is our so-called episodic memory system which is basically our ability to recall episodes or experiences of our past but that that can be somewhat different from our motor memory system. Which can be you know why we know how to play the piano while we can walk and run while he knows how to shoot a gun in my he knows how to do everything that mixed martial arts that he knows how to do so that. I think the movie actually gets right where he doesn't remember who he is because he has amnesia of the episodes that has personally experienced episodes of his past but his motor memory is has motor functions and everything that he's learned like shooting a gun and being able to do one on one combat remains intact because the different parts of his brain that enabled those motor outputs have remained undamaged. Are Those different physical. Parts of the brain that are being effective like is one piece of the brain the one in charge of episodic memory you WanNa make the disclaimer. That it's not like a waffle where this square is memory. The Square is motor the squares consciousness. This square is breathing. It's more spaghetti. Like everything is intertwined in the brain than basically like every corner of the brain talks to every other corner of the brain for all intents and purposes. But it's like broadly speaking. Yes in this case the parts of the brain that we think enable our capacity to recall our past for instance we think are largely different parts of the brain that we think enable our motor functions. Again might be able to do mixed martial arts intruder guidance on so in this case like you could imagine that damage to one part of the brain. You can definitely get cases of Amnesia where you don't know who you are whereas damage to different parts of the brain. You might even get some things. That look like Parkinson's are you. Get some of these diseases that actually Impair Motor functions in general. So we do think that there is a little bit of a non overlap between those two which is why you can get this dissociation of Matt Damon. Not Knowing who he is and yet he can perform of the martial arts that he doesn't movie well just to sort of a fact. Check one one thing here that standing out as maybe different to me would languages in that same category because he also seems to remember multiple languages. Yeah exactly that's another that those are through other parts of the brain we can call them brain regions or lately. We've been calling him brain circuits which basically just multiple areas connected to each other in the brain and we think that the language circuits of the brain somewhat different than those that enable us being able to recall our personal memories which those circuits we think are also different than does that enabled us to be able to run a mile without really getting gas or anything like that. So that's the part where I think. It's actually pretty realistic. In that sense that he can remember. Multiple languages are remember how to do these motor functions but not remember who he is and we have examples of this in real life like plenty of patients who either through some kind of accident or through some surgery for instance lose their capacity to do one of these functions such as being able to either form new memories or recall memories of their past but they can still play the piano and they can still ride a bike and they still talk English. They still recognize food. Their wife is the work so we do get these kinds of real life. Examples that occur as well the scene that you keep referring to the scene where he's listing Everything that he's thinking the you know everything that he knows Once he enters the diner that's specifically made me wonder maybe write down the question. Did Matt Damon get this part because of goodwill hunting? Because they reminded me of that famous. Good will hunting scene. Where he's doing the you've been reading Gordon would but you forgot about Vegas. It's like there's several sequences in this movie where he lists listing things he knows and he's very good at that. You can tell he's practiced at this is. Maybe where nothing was. Maybe typecast here. Because his character in the Martian or in good will hunting even departed or the Bourne identity could imagine the producers and directors be like all right not. Just just be yourself in the sea. Just don't act just be yourself and then it comes across there because that's that's exactly the common denominator. I think that can exist across these movies that the personality type tends to be somewhat similar at least Character Portrayal Yeah. I love you wrote with with this guy. Amnesia looked so good on him. It was like no part. Personality could be bad because he was technically just a sensitive. Do F- I don't know I don't know why I can do all this stuff. You know just so like it is interesting to see a Mesia in a sense glorified on the big screen because you can imagine the inner teenager must be like. Oh I wanNA know who I am and yet be able to kick ass drop of a hat. Yeah I want to tell her. I don't my name is I was actually GonNa ask in terms of your expertise with people with Amnesia. Is it often a thing that people that suffer from it become better or in some way? Improved people through the experience. It's a fantastic question and unfortunately like what we tend to see. Is that one of the reasons why we think memory is so important is because it's the thing that really threads and unifies our overall sense of being so without it. We kind of have a little bit of broken identity so unfortunately in cases of Amnesia or severe in Asia it could become really debilitating in this case that gets. It can become very impairing so even like in the movie. Memento for instance you. Can you can kind of see how the character here is just like basically literally shattered throughout the movie personality wise? So usually it's not like a whack a mole effect where you have. Nesia for one thing. But then you get these superpowers and become better in different parts of life. It's like for the most part Become actually pretty pretty socially debilitating which is why personally debilitating as well. Which is why. It's one of these things that it's still a great mystery to Hawaii. It occurs in how to try to fix it but at least something I think modern neuroscience can take seriously so this should be called the broken identity. I think we can James. I just wanted to bring up is completely nonsense related at all but There's a part where they are activating the other assassins to go. Get Jason Bourne. They're like very quickly going through the computer graphic sequence one of them one of the names of the assassins is chimp H. I. M. B. That's his whole name and then it says next to code name so that's his name. The code name is like Oh that was that was Clive Owen. The professor. Yes. Yeah yes so. His name is not cheap. It's chimp I think my favorite of the other assassins introductions was the guy. He's the last guy you see. He's the guy you end up. Who ENDS UP Killing Chris? Cooper win when you see him lying in his bed with his gun on the bedside table next to like a profile next to that and he's just looking up Waiting for the phone during I loved that he's essentially just a human screen saver waiting to kill very into that intro to that character anything for cooking or like reading window I kill. Yeah speaking of these assassins. I also really really had to mention that. The first assassin All of these guys are supposed to be like kind of born level right. They're all like super pros. That are trained by top. Whatever black OPS military and this guy chooses to via rope crash in through with a machine gun already fire me. It's just those videos of videos out of the army. Cops that are like they go in and bust through the door with this big piece of metal and then the other person just like text the doorknob and it was unlocked the whole time. And you can just do it that way. Like it's just there's a lot more mundane as of breaking into a guy exits the same way. He runs through the glass window like even for killing himself. There's easier ways there's also yeah about the BUZZER. Hollywood movies wondered this. Where like you see this in the Bourne. Identity basically every other mission impossible any action movie. Where like the hero is running running? There's no escape and they just like jump through the window. I'm like are these windows just made out of cardboard I feel full speed ahead against like a window in like a building. You're not breaking through that thing. These things are pretty strong. Yeah I mean maybe the key is Steve. Just you're doing a next time. You need to be actively firing a machine gun right. I'm with you on that first one. Because he's swinging. He's got his combat boots out in front but the second one he literally runs into like with his face. Yeah I just could not understand why he would do that. The entrance or the exit. Because it's reported later that he's dead well and this there's nothing there's nothing given to us. That explains it anywhere in the movie. Like even like you get you get to clive. Oh and after Jason shoots him in the field. Any any gives that little speech about like look what they make us. Give up and that doesn't explain anything either like you're really just like well okay. Well why why? Why did you do this and also why is your personality different now because the whole movie you were Stone Cold? I get orders. I kill people and then we're supposed to feel something like I I was I definitely felt like. They gave the short end of the stick as far as like explaining where these people come from. And how they're activated. I totally agree with you as far as like. I didn't know what was really going on at the end of the movie. I couldn't even tell if Jason born remembered it stuff about his life like clearly remembers this stuff on the boat now pulling the trigger because he saw the guy with his family. Both I don't know what else he knows if he knows anything else about his life. Now and then I think the Clive Owen. Thing was was more than saying once you're in you can't get out. It's like a gang. Almost you know like for whatever reason they got suckered into this business at now they're just kinda screwed but again and not to harp on this because I know we can get into a lot of memory important information here but that scene with the guy coming in the window and then jumping out and killing himself was completely just out of nowhere to me. I couldn't imagine Matt Damon's character coming up with a plan like that agreed right. The only move here is run straight out the window onto the street. That would be funny to watch him. Tell Marie to do that with them. Come on we ought to run for Senate that we know come on. Let's go wait. Let's think about your brain really is messed up right. We're GONNA take a quick break and we'll be right back. It's a trying time. The challenges all of our basic assumptions. However one thing that brings us all together is our common humanity now more than ever teams must come together and work together to solve big challenges and Trello is here to help trello part of Atlassian collaborative sweet as an APP with an easy to understand visual format plus tons of features that make working with your team functional and just plain fun teens of all shapes and sizes and companies like Google fender and even costco all use Trello to collaborate. And get work done with Trello. You can work with your team wherever you are whether it's at home or in an office no matter what device. You're using computer tablet or phone Trello sinks across all of them so you can stay up to date on all the things your team cares about. Keep your workflow going from wherever you are with Trello try Trello for free and learn more at Trello DOT com. That's T. R. E. L. L. ALL DOT COM trello dot com. The break is over. Here we go back to the show about. I wanted to say a couple things just in relation so the scene where he remembers not killing the Guy Because of the family very. I don't remember that from the first however many times I saw this before last night. I didn't remember that part. But it's very significant because it specifically shows you because the whole movie is the question of. Maybe he's good personnel. But who was he before? Was He an evil person and I guess that sequences to show you that no he was always good but I find that to be less interesting story. You know what I mean like. And also if he was always good that just opens up the question of why he was okay with killing a million people before that right. Yeah that's what I was GONNA say like even if you feel bad killing somebody in front of their family. That means that if his family wasn't around at that time he would kill that guy right exactly and then the other thing I wanted to say. Is that tread stone? Which is the organization. I guess that grows or whatever these killers and puts them out for higher I realized that their business model for as off a business at it is is pretty perfect and they really got a bad break on this one because if this one agent had died in the field and not Gotten Amnesia forgotten who he was but retained every single special skill enough to that he could hunt them down and really bring the trouble to their door. Like they'd be fine. They be totally fine. And it's like a one in a million shot that this happened crazy. Never thought about that before true. I feel for redstone. Good y'all got often purposely run government organization. Is it the government or are they? I didn't feel that was clear either. It's like yes. Some like shadow part of the government. I feel like it's almost like government. The like the deep. Nsa right it's like it's like when prison came out of the NSA basically like the really shady stuff happening like under like more behind the scenes to keep the fabric of society intact so yeah basically some some aspect of the US government that we're not supposed to know anything about but they're the ones really saving the world behind the scenes and doing very well. I miss how many movies used to involve a room full of guys following one guy on a bunch of monitors speaking across the room to each other like it wouldn't make sense in terms of a movie today because everybody would be connected online but there was so much of that and I think I remember that being all of these movies all these born movies that yeah there was a lot of really funny scenes of yeah the like whatever director guy just yelling instructions to people in like do it now. We need to now. Let's go let's go and then just like insert shots people typing and shit. Yeah why and I love the sparse. The sparseness of the office they were in. It looked like a basement. They were just like in basement. Full of old computers from last year or something. It was like. Yeah it's your treads don't like you're supposed to like you can literally like engineered human psyche in this case in your first of all your basement and then what's Hilarious de seems to whenever there barking orders at like you start seeing like a code appear onscreen your this is just garbage like literally just typing in random letters and numbers and that's supposed to be like the signal that sends like Listened to go. Kill Jason Boring so funny I love all that stuff man I want it. Just I don't know it makes me laugh to just see computer graphics stuff like I guess. Because you don't think it's going to be like outdated but now. This movie is eighteen years ago so now when you see like the cool computer graphics of two thousand two. It looks insane. I had very curious to see the new one that because he did one like a year ago or two years ago. Just called Jason. Born and I want to see to what extent the tech is updated or believability sake in in the modern age. Yeah and I don't think that's his name right. Don't we find out one of the other ones that's not even frigging name is Yeah I think Julia stiles character to know his real name or something like that. Yeah he does. He does figure out that Jason Barn was just his his codename. Israel like Bob or something blind right yeah or David or something like I remember just being a huge twist moment at its. I don't care I don't care what his name. We never knew if that was his name. I don't know his name your Okay I have to mention that since we're just talking about that movie at this point that Walter Gugans is in this movie a really fantastic monologue. I was thrilled to see him. Wearing like Suspenders and he's like talking about the girl who I can't remember her name now but I I love that scene. I thought that was so great. one thing that. I thought was fun. To notice was first of all. I mean I. I generally speaking of Matt Damon as a pretty good looking guy but I forgot how how handsome he was as a young man. I mean this this vintage Damon really something to behold whereas young Clive Owen. Much worse looking than current plan. That would be interesting. Yeah that was my takeaway. He looked weird and lumpy as a young man. That your professional your take on my dating profiles is weird lumpy Clive. Oh okay before we get back into info science land. I did read on your website. Steve that you love the wire. That's your favorite shows. And I stopped at season two of the wire like a year or two ago because they got into like the and I lost interest. Somehow in the whole doctors investigation. So I wanted you to pitch me why I should keep going and then I wanted positive. I don't know if we ever talked about the wire. Paul oh I can't wait so it's basically like it's kind of the the nitty gritty action of breaking. Except it's it's not a slow burn with a lot of like the story development of I'd better call. Sal which is like a lot more pensive and it takes a while to really really dig your teeth into it and I think that with the wire it's basically from from season one on does not really it didn't feel like that much of a a slow buildup. It's like there's always something underlying it always feels like very gritty and it always feels like you're kind of on the streets with the characters as well and I mean especially like in the subsequent seasons. You're just kind of your. It almost feels game of thrones e-except real life where you're invested in so many characters and you're like I just had no idea who's GonNa live or die because the reality unfortunate reality of crime and stuff that can happen in the real world is that the residents are in the of life and death that really can be just right around the corner and I think that it's that kind of edge in your seat. No idea what's going to happen each episode into each character that maybe even for either multiple episodes or seasons really that that really kept me going. Maybe I think maybe that's a way where it's like. It's game of thrones minus. The last season meets the best parts of breaking bad meets. The storytelling better saw Wah of sterling view. Wire recommendation there. If you're Ford Is there a dip in season two like or am I just a stupid now? There is there is there totally ended up. Yeah I have heard of this before the season to fatigue or whatever you WANNA call it the I believe that season two is the. It's sort of an odd season that does sort of make or break some people's viewing experiences. I am I think of season two is under misunderstood and underappreciated however I am a fan at personally I'm just a big fan of the Franks vodka character in his troublesome sons Ziggy but regardless The the one thing I will say that I think is telling about how viewers and therefore the creators feel about season. Two is the one unique aspect of the wire. Is that every season. Introduces you to a new aspect of the city of Baltimore. And you're following like a new New Business Organization or or In in season three they add a political candidate storyline. So you sort of get a look at the government and how that's run so the as the show goes on you just build more and more and more of this world and you you not only get these new characters but you retain them so by the end of the show no matter how many you've lost you now have all these new cast of characters you have this enormous cast by the end all of whom you're following a down different story threads but the one story thread that they do not keep is the ducks so I think Oh interesting yes I think People just sort of didn't retain interest in that's right because it's unrelated to the major story whereas when you get back to season three they jump right back into stringer bell and Avon Barksdale and it and it's sort of like it R- It ratchets the main story up quite a bit so I definitely I would recommend stick again. It's all right. Well I will watch the wire and you know. We'll probably do an episode about at some point about Baltimore police gunfire. I don't know we'll figure it out so a couple of questions here. I wanted to ask about any kind of do this whenever we have an expert in neuroscience because I'm fascinated with memory as I'm sure you are as well clearly and I hate when I can't remember certain things Small or big honestly it just bothers me and I feel frustrated by Constantly trying to improve my memory and that's kind of one of my stable questions for experts like you do things every day that help you Like I've I've talked to some people before. Said they lake less decisions per day. You know so you know. Their their food is done for the week or or they're wearing the same things or you know that back. Help them or putting things in the same place you know like my keys are always in this location. So I don't need to think about. Where did I put my keys? So you have any advice on the front. Yeah I think it's a couple of things and it's kind of an answer that nobody really likes. Because they're the hardest things to do but as far as being able to either improve memory or have a good memory or if anything prevent memory decline and this applies not just a memory but to like cardiovascular disorders and mental health in the works basically everything that is that can exist in the human body. Like you don't really don't have any silver bullets for these other than we know. That are like aerobic anaerobic. Exercise is a really good thing and getting a good night's sleep routinely is a really good thing. Having a healthy diet is a good thing and then having some kind of like social enrichment or any kind of interactions with the world or whether it's society or whether it's you know whatever habits that you have extracurricular is that you have basically between sleep and exercise in Diet and leaving living some kind of enrich lifestyle that that that kind of cocktail seems to be this recipe for at least like mitigating cognitive Klein or memory decline as well as again like everything else that can exist in the body from cardiovascular disorders to mental health to the works. But that's just basically more of a you know it's not necessarily a one-size-fits-all approach by any means but don't seem to be the things that routinely pop up over and over again when it comes to trying to maintain a healthy cognitive state awesome. What about coffee? You drink coffee love coffee. I feel like it was on. It was my sophomore year in college when I was pulling an all nighter for studying again at chemistry and that was like all right like I. I was never a coffee drinker announced. You know what screw it like all friends swear by it and then I had it in. I was just like where the hell has this. Been my entire life like. Why didn't nobody tell me about starbucks? And since then it was just all down hill right. How many coffees we talking about predict. I limit myself to two cups so I usually try to nurse two cups throughout the day and that usually seems to be enough like sometimes you know my the real kick that. I tried to get his if I can get in a morning jog and then right when you're hitting the runner's high afterwards if you don a cup of coffee than. It's a little bit of euphoric feeling. But obviously that's a lot tougher these days. It is something that I try to do. Routinely where if you can time the post run coffee than you start the day. Feeling fantastic man. I've that's a great tip. I've never tried that. I typically will have like a cup while I'm getting ready and then I try to get a workout in in the morning but but yet typically I'll have coffee beforehand so now I'm GonNa. I'm GONNA try that. That's cool all was what your coffee intake Yeah I would say I'm a two a day or I used to and I think that this is so crazy now. I used to prefer tea and I do still like tea but it's I think it was with my girlfriend that somewhere along the line in last few years I just started enjoying coffee for the flavor and like not. It's never been something that I necessarily felt like. I needed caffeine wise. It's just like I. now think of it. Is this wonderful luxury. You know that I can have in. That can taste so good and I have an issue. And maybe you already know this about me Ethan. I I have a bit of an issue with drinking. Cold drinks too fast. Like exclusively fast so a hot beverage A- and it's SIP ability is a real you know it's it's a treat for me. I'm with you on that. Ten Volt we Three of us have similarities. I also do two cups a day and a hot coffee can last me two to three hours. I'm not saying it always does but it can. I will skip it. But you're right if I have a cold brew It's done I will. I will down it within a minute and a half tops on totally with you on. This might live makes fun of me for this all the time. Where when I have a cup of coffee like I don't. I'm not drinking it because I usually drink iced coffee whether it's winter summer but I'm not even drinking it because I enjoy it. I'm just like drinking it because I like need its effects just down the cold brew and I'm like all right. It's almost like you're shock. Gumming a coffee in the morning. Then you're good to go. Yeah absolutely and I also guess. Have become somewhat of a SNOB. Now I have like the whole pour over chemic- set up here at home and I just I compared to t- like you said Ball. It's just not even close manages. Love the the whole tradition. Like the you know the setup of like doing it in the morning and the smell and the taste. It's it's euphoric for sure So you know if you're out there and you roast beans just feel free to send them to me Email meals you might address at school. Finally just had to ask an unusually. This goes almost nowhere but maybe have some sort of opinion on it. The whole nutro picks craze which I guess has something to do with Bora identity because he has these ridiculous memorization abilities. Like you said where he can just look at six license plates and then remember them twenty minutes later talking in a diner and I dunno people claim to swear by these things. So is that something you think is interesting or is that just a hoax? Feel ABOUT DETROIT. Six. Yes so there's a a yes no here. So it's like neutral kind of like the tried to be steroids for the brain right where it's like the your brain muscle conflicts more and more with new topics you can make up. You can have incredible memory or incredible cognition or these things and I have no doubt that there can be some cognitive enhancing chemicals out there. I mean it's like all you need to do is have a cup of coffee in the morning and you realize how much slightly are how much more alert you actually might be. Or I'm this can be similar for people for instance who are prescribed adderall. And Mike how that how that makes them feel to be able to focus and so on so. I have no doubt that there is like these these kinds of either drugs or chemicals that exist that can temporarily enhance our vigilance or so on the problem. There's two problems here is that one is that Most like most drugs can be very addictive. And that's GONNA come with a thousand one side effects because that drug wasn't designed to make you a genius. It was designed to try to alleviate some kind of symptoms such as gin ability to focus for prolonged periods of time and now the other part You know it's kind of like in the movie limitless to where it's like. The Cooper takes his N. Z. T. Pill and it's all you can unlock all the different corners of your brain and you can basically be disciplined to write books and memorize are learning to play the piano in the day. It memorized books and so on now. The thing is that this is kind of like one of those. You know those ads of like. Oh what would happen if you can unlock ninety nine percent of your brain at the same time? What could you do as a result? The the sobering reality is that if you were to take a drug that were to unlock nine percent of your brain at the exact same time. But what happened is that you would have the most massive seizure known to mankind like that's literally the definition literally. The definition of a seizure is an overabundance of neural activity. So drug claims to do that is gonNA be a drug. That just gives you epilepsy. Which is not a good thing so I think that in this case it's like you know there. There are certain elements of new tropics. That it has going for it like again. Like whether it's the amphetamines our at our house or things like that which can be good when prescribed and when when actually prescribed in this case responsibly on the other hand like the idea unlocking different corners of your brain. That's people who take LSD MD may virtually any one of these drugs will say like I had this realization? It's a yeah but you were also a Blob. Melting into the grass on the side of the river. So it's like the side of very really like the side of their very are very real as well so I think for now it's a little bit more fiction than fact in terms of being able to balance these kinds of drugs by but who knows right we also on the flip side with the kind of counter argue myself it's like we have certain onyx in certain prosthetic limbs that can in certain senses outperform our current limbs in my you know we can. We can extend bionic limbs or have prostheses that have twelve computers on them and can do these amazing amazing feats of bio mechanical amazingness. So maybe one day we'll have that for the brain right but for now for now the brain is still not still a little bit a little bit smarter in this case. Will I hope that you are on the case and bad one day soon? You'll be emailing me letting me know that you can update my brain Smarter and have a better memory in better host for everyone listening but Until then I WANNA thank you. Both for joining me on the POD. I hope he had fun. I had a great time talking to you and And hope to have both be back awesome. Thank you so much. It would be a thrill. I can't wait always a thrill Paul Stevens a new thrill. But I'm sure it will be repeated and maybe I mean I was GonNa say we could do Bourne identity two or three whatever the hell they're called but I just remember it being so shaky and I'd like the camera was so Shakey's I don't even know if I want to rewatch those not to be rude to the Creator's we could skip ahead to five and see where he's at now. You know just catch poking fun. Twenty years down the road. Yeah I'd be done. That would be my suggestion. Great Okay so we'll reconvene for Bourne identity five the board list identity and read the Synopsis. Of Two through four. Sounds great all right. Thank you both have a good day you to save but Signs is hosted and produced by me and Edinburgh are so c producer is. Emily felt our engineer. Is Jeremy Schmidt? 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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 230: Best of 2019

Spittin' Chiclets

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 230: Best of 2019

"Uh-huh everybody. Welcome to episode two hundred thirty of spitting chocolates present the by Pink Whitney the the pink lemonade flavored vodka from our friends over at New Amsterdam. Vodka Merry Christmas and happy Hanukkah. And whatever else you may celebrate out to all listeners. This isn't the usual episode. This is is a holiday episode which is a best of from the last year. So we're going to jump right into it and kick it off our Pal Sidney Crosby and now Holy Shit folks we are now joined by a special. Maybe the most special guest I got carpal Tunnel Syndrome flicking through this kid's wikipedia. This intro is going to be long. It's going to be good. I'll start the two thousand five first overall pick. He won one world junior gold. He won one World Cup he was leading score and MVP MVP thanks for coming. He wants to art Ross Trophies. He's one to Hart Trophies to Maurice Rashard trophies leading goalscorer in the national hockey two-time time Olympic gold medalist. One of them caused me to get silver suck on that whit too time conn Smyth winners playoff. MVP three time. MVP voted voted on by his peers. Ted Lindsay Award in the Lester B. Pearson Award and most important three time Stanley Cup champion. He's watched the replacements movie. Five Thousand Times in his life afforded me the chance to sit on my coach and just touched myself to watching Fred couples golf swings on Youtube. Because you gave me so much money are white whale Sidney crosby. Hey what a treat sent my first question after that show and wit. Oh my God. Did that go. Well intro Tro. Wow what what made you come on. This has been years in the making. I'm oldest appointed. I thought I was getting one. Eighty seven numbers on day. Okay so instead that originally he was on that but here I am well. That'll go into superstition on thirty minutes of superstition. Talk coming but no seriously thank you so much for coming on. We're up in Cole. Harbour this is I mean I'm sorry we're in Halifax sits from coal harbour house. Specialist is living living living here in the summer. I mean it's a beautiful town like you'll never leave here I don't think I mean been coming back here since you know since I can remember so Yeah it's the people the place I've a lot of family here Just feels right coming back here. So it's it's been a lot of fun we gotTa Plug. Were at two because your buddy set this up for US Salvin goat. What a spot on all? But but the but the bar it self. I know you guys have the women's world championship coming here. When Zack common next year? Twenty twenty so your buddies might need a little extra business. It helped me out so this is why setups here. We come here a lot. We frequent here so we thought the good set up for you guys and they put on a good show here and we found out that you kind of when you're in town here half the travel route a bit of a security i. I wonder if you'd even ever go on. I can't even imagine it just so no pictures of being taken with alcohol in front of you just not not like a full on Swat team which I would have expected. Yeah that was the case. We wouldn't get near him. So you guys looking out for you nonstop here. Yeah I mean I go to the same places so you see the same name guys and they they get used to the routine but usually hide out in the back here in most places should we hopped into the superstition. Talk no no. Actually I want to start. I want to start first off just our year playing together. We were rookies together. So that year was wild. I didn't make the team out of camp. Sydney was the first overall pick coming in actually actually before the season I wanted to get your thoughts and your memories on finding out that Pittsburgh got the first pick. Where were you then you know what I don't remember where I was was I remember where I I was watching the lottery? My basement actually. So you're drier. Was that you shot into same room. uh-huh hanging out there. So here's my memory of it. I'm down the Cape Cod. I'm with my family and all of a sudden my brother comes out of the host. Pittsburgh got crosby. Holy Shit. You'RE GONNA play with crosby and I was like. Oh my God. I could get so many points snapping break ask automatically figure yourself I just immediately thought of myself but it was. It was the best Did you know about Pittsburgh Penguins. Will I had an agent who is living there. D- Rizzo so that was kind of random that he in Pittsburgh and the rest of the was in California. But then I had met Dan Potash on a flight who covers our team. Randomly met like two years prior to that that and EJ. Eddie Johnson who coached the team a year before that a golf tournament so it was just random how it kind of worked out that I knew a few people in Pittsburgh prior to that but we thought we were. We're GONNA BE UNREAL. We thought we were going to win the Cup that Year Zeki Paul and was the signing an attorney count. Oh yeah you were there. I was fighting car zillow. That was so crazy. I still can't believe that. He said no fighting and I think probably in the first period of the first intersquad Gambian carshield throwing bombs van Bush. All Van von V.. Bonvie was you had they did. They go was Andrea Water. That year. No Andre. Very Wa was was there that year whereas some serious tilts and then we all go to lunch together hanging out at lunch with Lilo on your first roommate but he used to call me after the ODI launches at like four and asked me to go to dinner. But you hadn't left spot that you're talking about Lilo line who I I ended up. Nobody would want to go to lunch with him after practice known as it would turn into dinner and then like post dinner bar and you're like what just happened one. In the morning I went to lunch. Want to yeah yeah like are. We mentioned the fact that you randomly bumping all these Pittsburgh people we were talking about last night. It's kind of like how how the stars aligned with you. You end up meeting Andy. O'Brien randomly at some summer camp. And I mean I'm sure at the time you probably didn't know this guy was going to be one of the innovators as far I hockey trainers or really even trades in general and he becomes your guy. Yeah just worked out that way. I was at a at a camp and he was from Prince over Allen. We were at down Allan Andrews Hockey School and Yeah I just like the way did stuff. I didn't really want to lift weights. I was pretty young. He was you know pretty Pretty good explain the things and how he moved and stuff like that so was able to connect with them and he spent time going back and forth and spent a lot of time together in those early years he was just getting out of school cool. I think he was at Western. Just leaving there so for me. Yeah worked out good for media. What gave you that? Work Ethic Dole to something instilled in you from a young engage or was it like maybe your first season after doing summer training being like wow I feel much more physically superior than everyone around me based on the training or yeah I don't I don't know what it was. I think that I just like being athletic. I played a bunch of sports growing up and I think as you know when I grew up I was always the youngest kid so it was a lot smaller than guys You know I was playing with guys to three years older so I thought that's my competitive edge. If I can start maybe doing stuff a little bit earlier earlier. You a soccer goalie. I don't know I played everything. Well and yeah and then all of a sudden warm ups. He couldn't touch the soccer member early in his career. He you know he has his very regimented demented pre-game warm-up he's doing all Andy O'Brien active warm up drills and the guys be playing soccer in the Paul. Come over he'd be doing flips again. Olive away like the ball couldn't touch. Aw Aw now you play right. I always played. I just didn't touch it before he played. Make sure you get that right. Always played but the ball couldn't touch him until he was is ready to play. I didn't touch before I entered the game. That was the deal you said word. I wanted to get into work ethic because it is crazy like I've told so many people they they ask about you like you do work harder than anyone I ever met and it's always been that way. You told me that even in your teens or early twenties weren't you getting up at like six in the morning in your room. Throw in half your gear on and going to skate alone. Yeah that was before there was a lot of hockey camps here and I used to. We like May June. There wasn't a ton ice and that was the only time available before hockey camps and that was a grind. But you're on in. The Bay was so early I was just like I'm not like I'm throwing my gear on here. Nobody's GonNa see me. I'm jumping in my car. The only one on the ace that things have changed the night. She was going to mention it. His rookie obviously led the team even scorn but I looked he was also third and penalty minutes on the team one hundred. He used screaming at wrap. Your heart on wrestlers. Water a pressure that first year guy so I thought we were going to win though so hundred points. Fish didn't get the call there that the only thing I couldn't list off there's the call uh-huh commercial ovechkin up earlier. Just probably a lot of lot of tens couple tens audits that oughta meaning. What like probably through war? I remember Bugsy telling me with I think five games left. He said something like you're at ninety gate. Thank you think you're going to get us like I'm not getting hundred. There's no way I'm getting hungry. I can fight it off sure enough. I got hundred that night right away. Didn't even unlike and I got an extra two pissed I got that I got one hundred. I just Tita for her on your belt. All kind of gives you a little bit of toughness on love that I think. I think I think the first rookie to ever have one hundred points one hundred penalty minutes again. Thanks for coming. All we briefly mentioned Zygmunt. Palffy Alfie was that the season that he just kind of disappeared. Gino's Ville Yeah. Remember that yeah I took a bad hit. I remember yeah I used to. Yeah he was scared but yeah. Ziggy was unbelievable. Like he just toyed with goalies could just knock any puck down. You give him any pass anywhere. He was incredible like so like underrated. For how good he was. You know what you saw Cam Eric. He just mentioned Ovechkin. So you guys you careers. Basically been into twice. And she's both ended the league. Do you have any relationship with him at all. It's just all on the ice. Yeah pretty much on the ice. I mean we see each other at you. You know different events and stuff you know awards and things like that but Yeah it's it's pretty much on the ice and it's had its moments over the years I think that's that should be expected. We've been kind of built up against each other from day one but we've had some good moments some bad ones but that's that just comes with playing against him. Do you think that that was created by the media. Early very early on but it was. It didn't even media it added to it. I think it's it's an easy story. Align right you got the Canadian kid the Russian kid the rivalry there between and it just two totally different people. As far as personalties concerned matching hat trick game the year it lost that game. Though so bad guy nine Joe Thornton set it all right man must have been so nice to get the cup I though because that is such a big chunk off the back. They're always going to weigh you on your career. Achievements events are on the Stanley Cup. Yeah I mean to go play that team again to after losing the year before. You think you're never gonNA get there again I mean. That's that's celeste loss. Yeah that was true. Well I have so many questions so many questions first off talk about a fuck up. I Ray Shero train me for Chris. Cord still take that one back right. Hey when you one in it was all nine right. We lost an. Did you think at any point that night of me. Bugsy and army did you buddy all like so. Many thoughts went through my mind because because I remember bugsy sit in the room after Oh eight and him knowing. That's probably chance that you know that that's going to be his last game. In Pittsburgh we lose in the final so that was brutal. He didn't take his Jersey off for so long. I know I know he just sat there. And then I remember you know with you guys with With army and obviously we came in at the same time thinking. We're GONNA play play together forever. You just think that business the first trae you have no idea so just just that that went through my mind a lot and that crazy game where we kept alive. In a way that triple overtime you played like kept seeing nineteen body jumping overboard snapping. It happened around. I was like I played fifty seven and then came back after like missing three periods and sets up the winning goal but yeah all those kind of moments. It's came back to me but yeah we we had such an awesome group and we we all thought we were gonNA play together forever and then that next year you guys lose game five right and so you got blown out that game and then you go back huge game in Pittsburgh and then game seven Max Talbot Guy to become a hero forever. The thing I don't think a lot of people people realize as you didn't play the third period right second half of the game. I think like early second. I WanNa say it was long. It just went on a on a head or do you. Yeah I I got. I got hit by Franson. These massive big guy was he just and he just hit all my knee jammed in the boards and I got you know I got freezing all that stuff I thought okay maybe and got the third one shift against that suit can celebrate. Whoever's out there just like this cost us the reliability for the first time feeling ever I feel like? That's that's how you know you would have been scorned. The Ot winter like at the Olympics. It was it was brutal but you know just like seeing everything was just totally different. Look but just seeing like all those little things you talk all the time I and we couldn't even get the puck past. Redline Chipping Pass change in every fifteen seconds as a catalyst stay over like fifteen. Nobody who has already boys. And and then chronicle hit the post or the crossbar. Think with like two minutes left I was right behind him. It looked like it was going top shelf off the bar and when he hit the bar. I'm like okay I yes. Yeah it'd be able to do this actually affordable feeling though especially for you being in the middle of the bench having no control over it kamikaze. Every you're like. Oh I just wish I could through my patients out there. You WanNa be a cheerleader right. But at the same time. That wasn't really. I didn't really do that so I ate. I didn't really want to act out of character either just just trying to all of a sudden we just heard his name. Do you think those two those two cup finals else made you realize or do you. Do you agree that Lidstrom was the best defense in you ever played against no doubt. Do you like incredible and reforms. Ski was really good to get a lot but Not even like sick always used to practice has used use them watch lynch from doing where he'd be cutting backwards and you try to chip up in and he'd knock it out of the air and he was the best ever so Yan's used to make me do it in practice. Active can't even flip it in cheese. His can't get it off the trying to get it. Can you throw him. But then the coaches get so mad when you don't get a deep when a Guy Batson here it's like what do you want me to do here. I think we had somebody on trying to help. It told the story of a bother Ryan Bobby right and end up break. Same type thing so I'll right so you get that First Cup Dude. I mean talk about the celebration in Pittsburgh because I was there for four years and saw water city that is sports town most undercover city in the US like just a great spot. So do you remember that celebration. Still look yeah like street yeah. The parade was crazy but the yeah it happened. I think it was like a Friday night. We ended up being down there with the cup and just people on top upper cars and hanging the cup outside. Mario's there you know. You've made a few few appearances at that place. I'm sure over the years but but just you know like I couldn't picture it until I saw it I never expected Carson Street to look like that. I always thought you know obviously What is grant street or whatever you know through the city but not Carson? The street was just mayhem there and the obviously the. I'm trying to think back sixteen seventeen. I don't think we even had anything close to that. Just because it was the days on. WHO's weekdays? That's a huge difference. was weekends right so we went on a on weekends so it worked out. It worked out Towel but who lived right behind. Mario had that pretty sick. All this was unreal. He must have been on fire. Because you know an unexpected. MVP and game seven hip scoring both goals. You're pretty close with them. Death well because usually gravitated more towards the French guys was it. Oh I hung out with flurry debris and Talbot and who Else Really Army wit bugs I would say. He was with the French guys more so he was not with us. I was actually speaking of restaurants. Said if you still go to Maggiano's in Philly every time the Q.. Influence played put it together. The Quebec League loves French. Guys were so my hotel room the lines mad scientists rookie rookie year. You got a hat-trick in Philly after Maggiano's and I believe went there every game in Philly the next four years at least man made you. That was so heavy. COLETTA meal though L.. Chicken parm interest me to my Maggiano's was Murals Moore. I think Merle's was the one who who got me going. was you guys were roommates. Yeah Oh yeah I had a brief stint with you. I think as you had a day of me shaking my foot with. Yeah that's just like syndrome see you later. It was Merle's and army where my to Colby. Yeah the two roommates for Merle's you couldn't get a better. I roommate just always had something setup all like always you get in April hockey's like meeting the lobbying ten and you don't know what you're doing you just follow Merle's you knew it was going to be good. How laid out on the town? You mean just like out to do anything. Like he'd set up dinner he'd set up where we're we're GonNa Watch the Monday night. Football Game Mini Golf. Anything Yeah Go. Hey We got this setup over here at this place. Murals is a big time. Setup guy the guy you need every crew oh I lo- logos guy and you show up and you always know you're going to have a good time all he ever asked for he's like I need. I need a gum guy. Someone's gotta be. I was always so a lot of people have tweeted me. A lot of people is our little exchange skating around it during the cup. Final me about my you got. How long did you guys plan that you remember that whole thing you in my head? That was pretty quick. I think I mean we always had something on the go. I feel like that group group was so like so unique. I feel like with flower. George George there he was always up to something. Obviously you guys had your little side bets going on time which which are warm up revolved around the half moon with with these look in games. The whole warm up just stopped stopped for these two thousand bucks a shot in warm ups. Yeah they choke games. Yeah and like if you go I go down bar in and then like I'm like dude taint more than flurry kicks him. Then get me fired up but a couple times I lost and I was just going into the game a little mentally weekly lost a couple of hundred onto a hundred percent and then you had the sprint contests. Did you remember that that was the vessel actually told a native about that the other day like we're in the room George like everyone on the the ice in like ten minutes you know. But we're like it's GonNa be good. We don't know what it is going to be good though we get out there. These two are lying on the goal line. Raider race to the red line. I don't know what what was on Terry into everybody was out. Everybody was out dude ratio was like on the Stop Watch. We had some so. You mentioned flurry great friend Ears Stanley Cup Champ. What what was it like the years where or a good buddy of yours kind of lost? His game. A little bit lost his starting job like everyone says how grady was to be around even when he was going through those times that you think thank the same. Yeah definitely he didn't he didn't change at all. I mean that's probably the hardest thing ever for him knowing how competitive is and coming in at a young age aged just carrying it the whole way like he he made it look so easy and that's not easy for young all. He saw we kind of take that for granted but the way he handled it. I mean you couldn't handle would any better and especially being a goalie that the little you know. It's a little different a little more competitive. The Eagles goaltending. Yeah you have to have that to be good but whatever good to begin with. What's that you've never been good to begin with that motor? Yeah exactly so yeah he handled it unreal and he. He was so huge in us. You know winning. He looked at some of the like that Washington series. All my God. I mean we got so comfortable with him just making save after save after save and then and we get our chance and boom was that the second of the back to backs where he ended up taking over for Mosa playoff. What was the feeling like when they ended up deciding to go back to Murray worry and I think it was even in the finals? Or maybe it was coffers final against Iowa so I think we struggled a bit In Ottawa I think it was game three and I think murder started. After that and he was he came in and played unreal. So it's you know at that point. You're that deepen we'd been and through that not even go through your head though. Are you trying to just worry about focus on your game or when you hear about the the switching of goaltenders is everyone kind of like wow. That's a fucking very major decision on a guy who's carried us to here. Yeah we had a lot of the same guys the second year so I think having gone through at the year before and flower handling the we did and not making a big. That was the best thing about it like it. It automatically wasn't a distraction and obviously you feel form. We're teammates He got us to that point. And we didn't know at that point if they're going to rotate after that. If Moore was going to go all the way so you try not to read into it too much. It's part of the position position and we just try to go with it but it worked out I've tried to. I don't WANNA salt auto here but we're you guys shocked. That went seven and games. I wasn't I mean we talked a lot about it. They were such a different opponent like they I know sat back to the final. I would have been route. Yes I think it was game. Seven overtime was not yet double. Yes you scored. That one Kuni any best was when the they were all wearing his Jersey calling this game all of these Chicago. Oh to go ahead I was like Holy Shit. I'm not going to sleep at night. Actually though what a great guy he is so everyone's told me like he made an impact right away hammer and guys too. That hit don't team in. Oh that's one of the biggest hits ever seen. He just you know what he can do. He can do anything like it doesn't matter if he's not if he's not scoring if he's not saddened saddened guys up. He's doing all those little things that you don't really really notice but you know that are so important to winning. And he just in the playoffs he always found a way waited. Just elevators game going back to that first couple and said what was the most unexpected thing about winning the cup. Something that like. No one told you Holy Shit. I didn't know this was going to happen. I think just everything that comes with it after like you think of winning you. Think of like that feeling of voice in the copy and with your teammates the parade probably is in your head just from seeing you on TV. That kind of thing but it's just you know whether it's coming back home and seeing everyone huddle around wanted to see the cop and it's I dunno it's the people that are part of it as as you You know as you got older and made the NHL. Just it's it's you winning it but it feels like it such a such a bigger group that wins it so I think just having and that that impact. I don't understand it until he went. And how many years did you have to go. If we didn't have any more roommate's like I got my own room pretty early. How Lucky Erica? Like flower had his obviously goalie so I think he got his own pretty early but it used to be five hundred games. Wasn't it used to be five hundred games but it was still like when we came in I thought it was everyone had them. Because you were with like odor line for a minute and I was. I was with REX like nope they used to put the older the guy with the young guy. Just do everything and then pay off speaking of roommates lemieux's place for their long. What else go here here just moved out when my talk at? I was a little uncomfortable living at someone else's house. Yeah I mean right away. But he had four kids and it's just a very normal family so I guess it Kinda like it got pretty quick just because obviously you look up to him you know he is who he is. But then you're in that family environment you see just a regular the guy obviously at amazing career but I was playing with him at that point too so that was pretty awesome. You drive of the rink every day and just kind of probably asking him every question Russian the book and one of the stories I have from my. I think it was like first couple of weeks there. They can get a dog right away so I was like. I think it's like I don't know if I need a dog right now. I can barely do my own laundry so they get a dog. I have a poppy. Still have the puppy this this day or fourteen year old Sam but anyways so I come back after the game I smell something like what is that like. Poppy definitely like shit somewhere. UH-HUH I gotta find out where this is you know. This is Marios House. Yeah so I'm like looking everywhere like all over the house finally come around the corner and he's cleaning up all this shit like everywhere in the kitchen. I'm like Oh my God like like so embarrassing like Maryland News. Clean up my dog. My Dog Shit like this is so backwards. The I should not be happening. That are told me to get the dog. Implicit brought another broadhead. Mario Oh yeah yeah yeah. He was awesome like he was he ended up retiring. I think in November maybe it was December number but the whole family he was he was unbelievable to me and still is this day do you do you remember army and I were talking about this. I was actually crying laughing. The text Mario sent you after the big night in New York. You had your rookie year taking a big apple army said he he loves that one army armie sitting there. And he's like I mean I'm telling the story for him but armies telling me this like yeah I'm sitting here. He's texts Mario McClintock. Let me see. Let me see and against the Rangers at night in Mario Rights Way to take a small bite out of the Big Apple Kate an army. So that's that's so armee rb to like I probably. He's looking over my shoulder who's that. Yeah Yeah yeah play a cool thing about me saying any chance. They love you. Another team we wanted to talk about was Pascal. depre- throw in a throwing on that. Yeah that's that's crazy easy. Like he's another guy like Kunia mean he just did all those little things and I feel like those guys. They're so important to winning because they they do more more than just score. Set up guys you know they just understand the game. If you need energy that night they can bring that if you need a hit. They'll bring that. They're willing to play any amount of minutes. Whether it's tanner twenty. But if they play twenty they WanNa play twenty five. It's just that they want to make an impact on the game somehow and he was one of those guys that just he worked hard. He's willing to do whatever it took to to win. So we'll go back to the trade. Is that something that they call you and say hey. What do you think we need in our lineup? That was just their move. And then how long did it take you to evaluate the fact that he was going to be a big piece to you. Guys Win The championship. it's hard to say that you don't know it takes time. I think for your team to develop chemistry and things like that but he was he was a good fit Yeah I think it started off with I play with him and billy right away and we had some really good chemistry and it just seemed to fit but we had we were so deep. I mean we had. We had so when you guys that could chip in and we had Miroshi Tan year. Then you all either for yourself or Tanko like guys that just you. You know guys you wouldn't think Right away at school scores but like feds was unbelievable. Yeah what about Garin. When he came over he must have made an the impact in the big time? I mean he's just so comfortable so comfortable right away didn't take me time first time. I met him. I remember in the training and we just started unleashing on me just church for me. I was just like Oh man I love it. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah just yeah. It helped that he was older. He'd been through it. He had been on a few teams so before that. So people tentative about Boston you balls giving like your statue in the room or whatever. Yeah I think like is I came in with or obviously much more comfortable sociable than than it is now man. These kids are sold scared of everything. These teams training table IPHONE. Please I know it's just different. It's just different everyone did it. Didn't matter you know where you were in the lineup. Or you know whether you played ten games or thirty two year. It's just you're fair game. I remember I remember my first year going to get a haircut and just being like can you just give something. That doesn't look like I got haircut. Haircut actually got. My haircut. Doesn't look like I'm getting shredded. It'd no matter how good this is going to be awful so sits ponant playing philly that night and most people think. He's stressed out about going up against Mike Richardson but but he's actually stressed that people are gonNA start skiing. What'd you get a free bowl so I could take away from? The fans are fine but from your teammates. Yeah I had one thing written down a million things written down. Yeah actually I have a million things written down here. I won't I won't read them Good thank God in the in the second of the back to backs there was a little bit a taunting on. PK Sioux bands. Part with the whole the the the bad breath and then he was bringing the mouthwash. Were you getting a lot of that information. Like is that something you just laughable or irritated by it. Yeah Yeah I was. Yeah I mean I think you could tell at the time when I was doing the interviews and it's just like the last thing I wanted to be talking about but I mean maybe that was part of it. That's fire you up where you like because I know at that point. They were winning the series. When he was doing that they were they just tied it they just tied at two two? We're we won. I too and that was in Nashville. He had said something KENCY Leaving the ice and I just kind of went to kind of get in the middle and try to break them up kind of kept saying stuff and him and I went at it and nothing was said even remotely close to that but then to read that after I go okay Eh guy. I'm going to have to answer. wrote the so it was more of that and then I think on top of that. He ended up taking listerine carrying a bottle of serene into the game or something like a role. I don't even want to answer like I have to talk about the pisses as you are still jokes about it. We were just at the awards and he's still joking around about it. I mean it is what it is but yeah I was just like okay I gotta the answer questions at the end of the day speaking of That's just kind of little you know. That's just mind games. It's nothing me. And him had some good run-ins throughout the whole series as I was playing a lot against them. You know I don't have anything against him for that. I just I just kind of annoyed that answer but that's what I wanted. I wanted the Tom Brady. Bill Belichick School of thinking. Just don't ask me about nonsense. What about a mistake I made and we need to go back into this for people who don't know? I made a bet that the man sitting right here would never score fifty goals in the NHL. Do you remember finding out about that. Who fucking told you definitely gets laugh? I I think it was probably got repairs. well either way repairs. Yeah might have I. You know this guy walks by me at the hallway. The Olympics Dixon says they heard about your bet but we bet and then that year gets fifty. You fucking I bet Talbot Talbot's like Oh yeah. We're just talking well like his game and I'll get fifty like and trust me. I'm blowing more than anyone in the world. But I'm like I don't feel ever get fifty. Look he came into the league with their stupi straight straight. It was like I don't think it's possible. And Talbot Kirk correct is he was is like dude. How stupid are you? You don't think he's GonNa get fifty and I ended up being wrong but just the fact that you you ended up finding out but I was like oh no started podcast. Someday you'll never do you wrong opinion. Considering when you came in I would say you were more shoot are are sorry pass first mentality and I think that maybe you realize people were catching onto that were there was one year came back. And you'd all you've done is on. The summer break. Lake was working on his shot. Because then you were just slamming everything. Yeah had a wooden blade would probably didn't help me. What's that people can take me? This would get one hundred blades. I'm talking to McKinnon. Yeah another superstar in common. I'm getting legit watching him. He would get one hundred blades blades and maybe throw away. Eighty five of them. Yeah because you could. You could doctor them up. You could like Ben would blades in the in the trading room at training camp. So when you look at it one piece what does it make them anymore. No Shit Yeah. I think it was two thousand ten. I started and got fifty. Would you have changed if they would have kept me probably not. I probably wouldn't have no. I mean you're not a creature of chain. It's still the same correct. Still the same jocks still the same one. And that's since age probably midget. Oh my God yeah ended ended it all of us just saying it's been it's been a hines. He has dreams at night. One extra stitch in his jaw hangs down onto his credit. That's probably like the worst thing he's gotta do he gets it done. He keeps it together for deal. Aw One thing I want to ask you and the start of the question might come up as negative. What's the weakest part of your game? Or maybe what's the thing that you need to work on more so than others in order to keep that part of your game up to par or at least we're what you consider. Par I'd say speed. I mean that's just part of getting older as you slow down a little bit. I mean you you just got to slow that that curve. Yes that's the biggest thing I mean the games getting faster and faster and obviously as you get older you start to slow down a little bit and you know the more you can slow that process down the better but it just it just part of getting older now like you play the game different mentally positionally nationally like as opposed to when you came in and you just Boston through the neutral zone splitting the D.. Every fucking Shit. Oh I think there's just more responsibility for for the center more more than I mean they always tell you you know. Help out the down low that kind of thing but now you have to like teams come so hard pinch I remember like starting there used to be like two teams I would pinch and that was like super high risk for teams to pinch today. Now every team pitches there's so much pressure on the D.. That you as a center. You have to help out all the time if you're not there you're toast so so I think it's just I'd love to go back to that that way of just flying through neutral zone but you're not really going to have the puck much. 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA be able to help you Daego zone wonderful back to high school for a minute. You went to shattuck saint. Mary's Minnesota obviously well known for hockey. What made you make that decision and also was culture shock? Just Cohen was school in in the American Midwest. All of a sudden yeah it was. It was a big decision but at the same time it was one I felt really comfortable with because I hadn't really been introduced to call it. US College Hockey. So I thought by going there. It'd be good to finally get on the ice every day. which wasn't something I did hear growing up? We only practice twice a week so even at fourteen. Yeah Yeah. I think maybe three times in midget but up to ban them for sure. We're only practice twice a week. Yeah so that was a huge thing just to be on the ice every day. Have the rink right on. Campus there The education was going to be really good But yeah that's just allowed me too to go there and develop Play there and see what I want to do. If College was something I was interested in. That was the best opportunity I was going to happen to really see it up. Close US too so we got one year one year. Yeah one year and then to the Quebec League. Yeah it was tough I almost did. I move stayed and did eleven and twelve in the same year and then would have been able to go to college on. I remember. North Dakota was probably up there. Yeah just because act breezy had gone like he had gone to shot he. He went there and they were they were just they just built that rink and stuff and that was just a kind of a draw there. Did you have a ton of office or did it even get to that point. Where teams offered Julius erving? Hey Hey that's something I would ask. Sometimes and I'm glad at clicked awesome. Thank you for not saying that. Well you know what there's like the NCAA NCWA rules are like. It's crazy because I was A. It's it's all like when you can when I was sophomore. It's all coming back to me and Beth but like the rules are crazy. You can't talk directly to due to coaches or do you want a certain day very NCWA keeps saying so under around. Yeah so I feel like looking back then it was. It's like my coach would talk to the other like the college coach in he base. Harry Legends Relay Morse Code. You know it was. It was weird like I didn't and all these rules. I was pretty new to that whole process but it wasn't as easy as just going on a visit. And just there was there's ways to do it so When when you were at shattuck you played and became real good buddies Jack Johnson? You're not teaming on the penguins. Is it true there was a time that you guys put on the baseball team. You got hit and he charged ars amount of crazy like that was our last. That's the last baseball game ever played in pitching and They were kind of the other team was kind of Chirp and walking. Yeah just that happened every game though it was just fun like guys are going back and forth and then he gets up to bat and and Their pitcher he starts saying stuff of their pitcher but guy starts brushing him off and he kind of moves in a little closer like kind of showing them. Hey I don't care if you're brushing me off I'm GonNa move anti-terror the plate so I'm on deck and I'm like this is not going to be good like you can tell he's like he's GonNa charge around here at any point. Sure enough brushes another one back. Jackie goes out there he just starts being the crop or the pitcher like within two punches. That guys down first baseman comes over that guy's down the second baseman throws his glove Adam. And he's done. He's basically standing on the mound. Two guys are down. I remember Iran like hockey mentality grabbed grabbed catcher. Can you might blindside catcher. So I'm like I'm like what just happened. You know. So the the Athletic director came to us after. And said you know you guys are GonNa have to sit out you know the rest of the season and you know. And he was like Jack was so pumped he was so far it off. He just got bench clear. I was just like okay. We were planning another sport. Just we had to play something. Spring term played baseball. But yeah that was Yeah I haven't been in anything like that. I mean hockey is but baseball. This last thing I expected going into that even before shattuck like the nickname like the the next one like you were a prodigy growing up. And I'm wondering being here like living in Coal Harbour Halifax like you think it was almost easier to deal with that it instead. You're living in Toronto right where it's just say kind of a gong show minor hockey and stuff. You know what I mean. I think as far as staying grounded I think it was easier. You know just because That's the one that the friends I grew up with The coaches I had it was all about team grown up. You know it didn't. It didn't impress them. If you had great numbers and there's tons of kids in minor hockey that have great numbers. That doesn't work out and I think they always kind of reminded me of that and playing with older kids. They didn't allow my my head to get too big. There wasn't social media. There wasn't even just to get info and other players. You had to like just just like go online and try to figure who the best guys were. It was hard to do. You just couldn't you didn't know who message boards on like hockey's future websites sites. Exactly that's that's what it was so I guess in that way it was probably a little bit better just without All the social media and stuff but There's also some mm challenge to it's a small town and There's nowhere to I guess to to kind of get away and just when you get to that age where you're closer to junior and there's that expectation Asian I remember when I was in junior. I was going to like high school and I was getting ushered in the back door to do my exams. Like I was like this is this is awesome. They would do but be honest. That's when you realize like I'm not gonNa have a normal life. I mean it's never. Yeah and it was. It was pretty good. You know I think my parents did a good job in obviously with the friends and stuff I have they. They kept it as normal as can be. But it's just one of those things that it is what it is and You make the best of it. You're you're kind of private and you keep a you run a tight ship. was that just something you always wanted where you just don't really want people knowing knowing your business. Is that something that your parents were like. Hey this is going to benefit you if you live at this way in the future or just no. I think it's just kind of it just kind of learned. I I think whatever works best for you. Whatever you feel the most comfortable with and I always felt like hockey was You know so scrutinized and in every expectation that came with that and there's a certain level of you know when it came to my personal life. I just liked having that for me. I didn't I didn't need necessarily early Let everyone know what I was doing when I was doing it but I just I thought that was something I could have for me. You know hockey with something that everyone was well aware of but my personal life was for me as that goes on though you have to Kinda work to kind of keep it private whereas early on. It's a little different whereas is now like you know you deal with like pop rots this up like that. Do you have to have like a team around. You know it's not that it's nate right over here. It's not that bad I think doc And after a while you know you're in different situations and you know you learn what What works what doesn't like having no caller? Id when you call people so that. That's the most very thing. If I wait and since I got traded to get a no caller. Id Call because some say blocked some have like you can tell it's it's a joke number sits caller. Id every time so this is him. He said it's fairly easy. Though you just got a call your provider ended up because as I was explaining like what I thought was so cool and then Grenell Egos. My Dad has that I'm like okay. Well that's all right one more thing you know we're getting into all these these good memories or we're trying but you've had some tough things to deal with in your career and I really WanNa go into like buying jeans dude because it's disaster astor. I mean this Guy Bides. These wide asked jeans and then gets the ball. Go boop boop cut you. Haven't you've never found a pair of jeans and a store no chance. It's not easy for Nellie. Salivating broken often torey Krug Watts. The page they stretch. When I'm wearing right now fuck right page search warrant dude? He's born with those things fucking track. I do. I do a lot of stuff but I think that there's lots of guys do allow like stuff. It's just I guess genetics before we even get into the two thousand and ten and fourteen Olympics where you pissed off when you didn't make oh six I know but like looking back. No one even thought about your name wasn't even in the mix but then you start thinking like at the break you had sixty seventy points. Yeah did you start thinking ever that year. Like right before they started I think it was like one of the team. January December December. Yeah so rape before. They're coming up with the team. I think there is a little bit of chatter that you know. Maybe an extra or something like that but Just that alone. I was happy with like I didn't expect even be on that radar coming into my first year so I ended up going to ski for Olympic. Break break. Actually thank you. That's a hottie. Nerve to tell you GonNa let in the Maldives skated with Yoshino. All my buddies from junior back there I was like I was happy to have a two week break in into the Olympics. But I didn't. I wasn't upset at all like the fact that I was in the conversation. I guess Kinda got my hopes up a little bit but then once I wasn't it was like I was a fan so ten comes and you know in the end you become a Canadian hero forever scoring that goal but people probably don't really remember that I tournament we beat you guys and regulation there. Was Some question marks going on the Canadian media. It was a little bit of a Gong show for you guys early. Yeah because of that game probably and then the goaltender it was switch I think Broder had banned the starter right. Yeah I think I think after that Game Longo went in and Yeah we just I think we we just struggled. We struggled to find those line combinations. As you know it's a it's a short term and A lot of guys some guys have played together before some haven't and Yeah I mean it's it's a ways back some. I'm trying to jog my memory a little bit but Gold medal doesn't come back to me right away have also also been snow just early on you know early on. It's there's always that feeling oh process but I feel like it happened so quick. Yeah no as far as the team gets there the next day. You're playing you. Don't what about the golden goal like. Do you remember that shift. You remember like the feeling right after I imagine it's I it could be that or you might not remember a thing. It's kind of like that. Yeah I mean I remember the feeling. I had when Breezy scored. That's what I remember most sick to my stomach I was like you've gotta be kidding. Me This is like you know you're what was it like a minute or thirty seconds explore with under a minute I think yeah and I remember like Oh my God like you just funny. It's funny you say that 'cause I don't remember that blacking out on the bench because you're so happy but if I remember yours that you don't remember so per it's that's that's probably that's probably jail and then we came in. We only have thirty seconds. We come in the room. It's still kind of like showing right and I remember Scott needed. Meyer was like like just like so cool and calm and just I don't remember exactly what he said but he was so like I mean he was convinced we were going to win. Judging by the way he was talking. I just remember this guy's been through everything. We're going to get this done like he's he just like had that quiet confidence. As as for the goal itself we use surprise as you scored on that particular shot which is kind of a weird angle Americans all easy already Canes Cup Call Symtas some on the Ice Weird Angle. Oh yeah yeah it was incredible. It's cool because I used to do this drill grown-up I remember like probably like twelve thirteen. Fourteen years old. It was ten in pox. And you just shoot ten into the net. The the parks scattered all over the offensive zone. So you didn't necessarily know where the net is. Sometimes you're just like trying to get ten bucks in is best times you can get so try to score ten goals on an empty net so you just go to the puck. Shoot it from where it so. It's pretty hard because once you get tired you're going. You're skiing the blind your turn in your firemen you miss response was in the corner. You gotta go chase it down like it's going. It's kind of like a bag at the end. I was like what but anyways that that drill used to get those like bat angles all the time. And you don't really look at the net a lot. You just kind of like let it go and it was just one of those things where that just kind of popped opt own for whatever reason I shot it but like it wasn't like great angle wasn't for whatever reason I shot up but most times you take that to the net and I think that's what Miller probably thought. It was just a weird like a lot of times nine times out of ten. I probably don't shoot that right away. It was just weird the way it worked out. So so basically my gold gold-medal dreams were crushed at a rink and coal harbour all the social in the morning two thousand one nine years prior seriously though like what. Yeah you know it goes five home. It's just a it's a pretty low percentage shop but I guess in overtime. Maybe I was thinking ghetto shots and bad show too and that's something I would have done. uh-huh celebrating that night celebration was really cool. It was kind of. I guess it was tough because the city was just mayhem and we relieving like early the next day right away because we played I want to say we played a day later. I think at home right away and I I remember sitting around with webs and we went to the athletes village. It was like it was like this house they had were you know just any of the athletes that come in hang out so we he brought We brought a bottle of rum. I think from the from the rink and just like yeah at the the house there but all the athletes are around. I wasn't just team. Canada was just It's kind of hanging out there. But the city was just so crazy just I was content to just hang out in the Athletes Village Agenda Angle with some other athletes there. I think the men's curling team was around a little bit so I think Kevin Mertens group there so they were around. We're hanging out with them. I and it was a lot of fun but it was pretty quick. Unfortunately that's that's the thing is like there's no parade there's no really get to hang out with the guys that much after it's everyone kind of goes back to their teams for the struggles early the tournament. You could probably think of a few distractions off the ice. It was in Vancouver. You got a badge and a lot of guys going out probably having what a good time taking in the festivities. Maybe not so much you guys I was. You don't doubt he's not fanning Vancouver. You got to bring up a vitality story dude. We'll have to do a live ad read. Write all cheat I do it. 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So yeah they're they're good to work with as a young kid said when we. When did you become aware that you away better than every other kid question? I didn't really ever have that in my head had kind of blowing these eight year olds out of the water up though. That's why I think like I was. I was always two three years younger than the guys I was playing against and always felt like I needed to work so hard to like to stay at that level to play at that level and That kind of kept kept pushing me to get better and when did you realize that. Okay I think I can do this for a living where I wanted to do this for a living. How old were you when you he wanted? uh-huh anybody four and a half months like I always even before I when I was drafted I think is when it really hit me. I think even in junior like your project objected. And then you hear stories. We'll guys You know that. Get your afternoon early. In for whatever reason it doesn't work out so I don't think I ever let that creep in my head that hey your first respect but it's it's automatic that you're going to play and have a good career and that kind of thing so Yeah I I think that I always had that mentality that that underdog or I've got to prove myself that that kind of mentality so like forever. It's Mario's linked with with Yager from their titles in Pittsburgh and the the dominating teams they we had for you. It'll be Gino. And like I I hope a couple of funny if not one gene story would come to mind my favorite being when he had five assists against the maple leafs and smashed into a hundred pieces. You remember that game beat the League. Y Y what happened. We believe five nothing at home and he had all five assists and he got the locker room and he was so mad and scored smashed a stick in the shower on arena and one hundred pieces and I was like five or six classic memory but I mean he's been he's been by your side for for every year but one and what a player he is Incredible like just practicing with like practicing every day. He just makes it look so easy just knife through guys. Even the game. He'll be like cut in front of the net. There's like a guy looks like he's going to pick his pocket and go the other way just knifes through nothing like he makes it. Look so easy and I remember like you know how you have the order when you go onto the ice. And his first he got he got hurt so his first I think he missed the first seven games. We played that year because he hurt his shoulder in preseason and then we had our lineup all kind of preset and like you know it comes down to him and I at the end line. You know like who goes out last. He's just looking at me. I'm like we don't really like second year but fucking eat it. Do you ever use three years Super League Russell. What what goes through your superleague really okay? Okay so he wasn't budget at all. I was trying. I was like rock paper scissors. Every game no no like no chance rookie. Look I one hundred two point man. He already had to see at that point. No no that was your first game at the C.. Does your first season with the. Yeah I thought there might have been getting second year halfway through your eighteen year old season. I think what -Tarian came. You got an A.. Okay and yeah. Yeah but yeah so. That was hilarious. Like yeah that's still to this day. He always he's a vast. so He's a bully. I used to be at the front of the line not that I should have been anyway. 'cause I'm a drill buster. But he would just come over take my puck. Go right in front of me the and not even say anything like this one. Set the tone here just be like what the fuck are you doing our line and just pushed me out of the way. Yeah but that's him like like he's so funny like he that's just him. You know like when you see it so often. It's just you get used to it. But how about him not knowing anyone's name on the team ever got rookie parties. Hey He's better now. Yeah he like he nailed. Everyone's name last year like easily. So you can't Dan. You can't get him on that anymore. I said down his homework I played with him but I don't know him because he didn't speak English that then and now it's like he does interviews and stuff. It's like I play with them but I really. I don't really know it all love to actually see him now. He probably hates because we need. We need your backstory of Joe Vitality Story. And you heard this yet. This is definitely got back to you so we need to know like. When did you decide all right? This is I guess. Actually tell you that this is going to continue until it stops like. That's nothing like when I look back like I'm like yeah I mean like yeah. I did that but he went along with it like He. He knew the second meal ticket. The second third time I came back at the tallow like I was like okay. He's on board. He knows what I'm doing here and then like I start to pick up little stuff. It's contagious you'd be surprised guys come in and say I'm not superstitious and all of a sudden you see them doing Soviet like okay play. Are you stuttering the story a little more because at that that point. You're kind of acting where he knows what's going on you know what's going on or you have to tell the exact same as it just smooth. Yeah I mean it's just I mean it's it's not word for word. You must be smirking because you're well aware that he's aware what the fuck is going on. You're making them. Listen to the story for the ten times. It's not that long story. It was a quick story to tell us the story. Could we hear it was like I think I heard that song vacation or something like in Europe coastlines. Yeah probably lives okay you know that. Was Those Song I listened to. You like yeah exactly. Yeah something like like that. So he's just like like like the second time I told me is probably what he's like He told me that. But then the thirty realizes okay US soundboard and then that's not even a lot. What's something that you did for superstition? That was just like you're like okay. What am I doing now like? This is getting excessive. The throwing of the water water bottle is that still. The army started that that was a roommate thing. Like I said we should just like chuck the bottle you know where the garbage can in the hotel room. I'm just messing around. He's like if I if I put this getting three goals tonight shocking at the at the garbage like armies probably responsible for half my staff because he was too. Yeah Tyson Berry told me to ask you about the spoke spin doctor with this is a great stories I golf club I ever got. I was at airlines golf club which is actually By the airport here tonight hole and was on number one and this club came helicoptering across in front of me I was like what and this guy is just like chirpy so pissed as he goes I was young on fourteen through it. He's pissed so I like. Here's your club back. He's a keep it keep it sound like okay so it's a sixty degree with one of those huge faces like Scott these illegal illegal Su super legal so I had that my bag forever like I knew is illegal. Yeah I didn't know to what extent this thing can like. It stops the ball and a dime. Wherever you're like you can pretty much just like put the ball wherever you want like with this thing? It doesn't move so we're often at oakmont fast. Forward to was a couple of years ago where it Oakmont entices there with me. And and Brayden Schenn was there too I'm in like vic roughing oakmont so I bring the doctor so we're all play for money rough at oakmont. It ain't stop. This is late around to like. This is huge. This is on seventeen a huge shot. I'm in trouble and I just stick it like two feet doesn't even move. Nate is snap just losing data dog shit like that so I was like okay. Okay last shot like tired. I haven't used it since that round. What a way to go out though Lindstrom SAM paper was making it so I'm not a golfer? So what you're saying when you're when you're rough that thing when you're in rough on fast ask Rene's like you hit the whole way to create spin on the ball hitting on the fairway and down on it right and the ball creates spin off the club face but in the rough you're just hacking it and it has no oh spin ever unless you're clubs named the spin doctor that you got guys replace face on it so I had all the extra faces. The diamonds said the rubber phase. You still aw grooves before the match. Do you still have your baseball. Yeah I keep it around. I throw it in the bank picture for sentimental value. What dude I mean we got? We got anything else for this guy. This let me read the memo Patsy if we got ya got one when you go into a game in Philly said you get a little extra jacked up because of the history three. They're paying on your face. Basically thanks to. Yeah Yeah I think just well like it's already in you because you you when I first came in like those games are there's fights it was just crazy intense. I mean there's still intense now but there is that level of anticipation when you're eighteen years old and you're seeing the guys you know square off and go toe to toe it just like. There's a heightened awareness that comes with that so I think those games kind of prepared me for the rivalry was all about and then it just continued with playoff playoff series. And that kind of thing but I think you just you get off for those games. No one. It's is going to be a little bit more more of a challenge with with the crowd and with everything going on. Definitely a great rivalry for sure. Yeah I wrote. What was the last book you read Hockey Dreams by Christopher the two thousand ten men's ice hockey team wrap run around books schedule? Okay stupid sorry about that job before hockey. That's what I had written out any summer jobs just like landscaping yeah worked hockey camps. That was the best. Yeah that was nice to work hockey camps and say we need you to run the drills drills for yourself the corner the kids are just staring staring at you not doing anything. I want to talk about the contract a little too. When you sign for what is eight point? Seven eight seven eight seven weeks late here. I mean I think one lucky is Pittsburgh at a hometown discount because this guy is like. OCD Times twenty. No it's you know what though it started. It started What was the what was the Max when I when I sign my second? I think it was it was it was and I remember. You know I was willing to take a little less but taking a little less doesn't work if everyone else doesn't take a little less you know so you know you look at you know. I think Gino assigned for less Tanger my sign for less Gino signed after you. And I'm like I don't know if this guy I mean Russians or Russian threes soup. I believe he still makes more than you does he. Not He does. Yeah now right because he silent signed after the the new the new CBA but But yeah like I was willing to do that. And everyone else said I remember Kuni and They signed for less. I mean Kunia unbelievable year that one year in the last year or the half year and they just for four million per year were yes. He's had a cash for sure and he didn't so I mean that's willing to do that and it worked out. Was your initial impression of these two heads when you first met them. Oh this is going to be fun. We'll witne I hit it off right away. Wake up and all the time like the bus rides with wit and who else who's joining you. It was always like kind of like t and me up for stuff. Oh yeah like the bus ride. You sit right right behind me. He just be carving like you WanNa like turn your head towards him because he just be carbon. Everyone's people on the sidewalk guys on the boss like you just carbon everyone all the time but it. It was great car flip out. CANCER-FREE DEFENSIVE SUV offensive. My I remember hanging out with visit the training room and And pet like shooting. Shell bit but then I remember like what was it when what happened. The you got sent down. And you're like pretty vocal about it all case so. I think I've told us on the podcast before so my first year at Pittsburgh's training camp. I didn't didn't really get much of a sniff. Got Sent Down right away to the H. L. and that was when Tehran was coach. He came down. I played four exhibition games in and in the NHL had four goals and two assists while they just signed Rhineland. And no Welsh and all these other and they're like yeah. You're going down the coast to coast. I just fucking lit up your training camp in your sending me the coast and I'm nineteen years old and these college kids are like thirty already like who are these old dudes so I said I was like bullshit. I didn't really get much of a sniff and I and that really upset the organization. Well then Chiro. Chiro ended up coming in and replacing. Craig Patrick and we didn't really have a great relationship. And then I came to cap the next year and they said that we bury the hatchet and everything was gonna be fine and I was supposed to address the first Inter squad game and I go in there fully dressed in my gear and IOS. He's like here's the lineup. For today's game I go look at. It wasn't in the lineup. I put nor my gear on and as you put it up I go. Hey Yo Z.. Maybe you guys could give me the heads up next next time before I put my gear on Ios e was jozy wanted to kill and he fucking hated my guts from that moment there until I finally ended up apologizing for a few two years later but the the end up sending me right down to the coast not even to the H. L. Training Camp. I fucked up a few times in the meantime but then we buried the hatchet. I went from becoming Defensemen to afford fought thirty times at the American the and then the next training camp I believe is the training camp on the training table acting like I was going to be captain. uh-huh eight I brought. I brought it up because I remember thinking like he doesn't seem like disgruntle. They're upset or like he's here having a good time like yeah. He's there wasn't anything because he was all the money he's happy he's getting. NHL Per Diem. Everything seems pretty good here like you know and then I made the team at Camp. We ended up going over to Sweden start that year. This is what the actually one way to wrap is because like man like I get shit on right. People see my skates. Look at your skates a terrible. Look at your body. You're so pale just telephone at home. offsite one timer dirt all right. We're talking with US the other day with listen to this. Because there's there's nobody with the same side one time or at this guy. Had you saw Ed Ed. Thank you very much. Only no seriously like it's insane. Yeah you will you just brought up like I don't even think you practice like Oh no you gave me a couple and like my limp-wristed curve. The puck went in the corner and Josie goes dude. That's the power he's GonNa find you every single game. Let's do do this and get you good at it and Ios you would go before practice with me and give me the past where he would pass it and like over the course of three weeks I got better and better and then just started sniping because the passes kept coming from it was a pretty cool story of like coaching. Helping you figure out what you need out hoping you figure out how to do it. And then him just given these fucking on the tape. Perfect asses is that I would have a shell. Sometimes they weren't they'll like they're in your feet or like ahead of you and I'd be like Oh this is what's he gonNa do with this. Stop it no. He just won t right in the back. And that reminds reminds you of early on when you're playing with power play. Sometimes you get frustrated because you badge he'd be explaining something in your like Sidley. Oh we used to tell you I told you that said Shit. I don't see the game like you. Nobody sees the game like you fucking off. Try Battles bad for that man. I'm trying to get better. Hey Buddy that's just how it is for the the only lasted six seconds with A. Yeah exactly well. This is unreal. I mean the fact you take. The time for us is much appreciated so we wish you all the best luck on getting number four man. No thanks thanks can appreciate it man. We had such a blast going up to Nova Scotia huge thanks for Sydney. And and his his little the Robbins his Batman Nate McKinnon. Now we had a blast hanging out with those guys. It was a blast in Nova Scotia and talking to those guys big banks once again to them next up. We gotta a local at a city kid dot Brad. Brendon Walsh. This kid come on much too many of our listeners with familiar we're familiar with them until they listen to him and now let's very familiar with the mouse. Oh without any further bullets roller drop bowel wall. She we are now joined by a very special guest. I'M GONNA call him a local Boston. Legend people people from around here in the hockey world have always known this guy in one way or another for me. He was older than me. I watched him play college. Hockey from Dorchester. Born and raised. Brendan Walsh thank you for joining the podcast. Thank you for having me. I am a Superfan and so people need to know that you know we played played against each other skated in the summers. Never knew each other that well but enough you know the hockey world and I saw him at Del friscos this winter. And I'm like great guy to run into you like all storytime here. We go all and he's like what I listen to check hotel episodes. I love it I was like to you telling me you listen. I feel like I've made it like that was just great year so I knew right away bag. Oh He's coming on so today's finally come. It's it's awesome the stories that you have all the guests have in the thing that makes it unique. It's just these these small all collections stories that like build upon a season. And then at the end you just it's me. Yeah it just ends up. One thing we're noticing too is is having I've been on like no offence. no-name Irs Punch twenty years ago. Ryan landed came on in the numbers. Were insane same with her. Obviously the NHL. Chinese yes. You know it's their stories and really the the lower-profile guys are allowed to let stories fly a lot more on manage all guys now and it's just like boys like no one's GonNa care all types of all types of nondisclosure agreement. Yeah I think you're the first rat we've had on the show of mistaken tasers all right. Are you taking them as Charleston. Probably I'd probably because I know the And Yeah you went to high school right. Yeltsin get cracking career. How how would we decided skating? Young kid like we was young. I think we all skated awesome. Talk some of US tried some tried so I was probably four or five started skating and then I actually hated. We actually had this thing in which is a huge part of life. We used to box at the J. P. McKEN post host right in a chair like a like a chair and you DADS would be down there. It was a mechanic post and it was like a lightning rod. It literally is a lightning rod for everything from when I was like eight nine years old I used to fight. I kid who I work with now. One of one of my really good friends. I hate to say best friends because he'd be like did you see my best friend. Best friend complete hater hates on everything and I would fight him in front of your debt like in front of our fathers just like Saturday morning instead of the game you'd be like all right toe to toe yet would be eight years old nine years old like I'd have like crazy. Eight is enough bowl. Cut All over take and we would fight and the thing about this. You would know this the the thing that you that GM's anybody up about a fight like what do you know about yourself. You never been punched hunch face before and the other thing is it's not so much like all this hurts this you know I got a black. I got a bloody nose. It's like it's embarrassment. How do you manage it right? How can you go on from it and say all right? I got picked myself up and go on so we did. We have McCain post and we Dorchester Youth Hockey and Dorchester youth hockey super. Ultra Ultra competitive. There's probably thirty guys that play Division One college hockey well less than a square my My Home Town won't Antero four five year period of time where we had seven even guys in the NHL Crazy when that thousand people well it goes and goes to show that same thing. All the guys that played at from Dorchester in your town is is when you grow up with great kids to go against competition. Is that of your friends. It's like that's what makes so many kids great athletes. I think Yup and we had great eight people Surrounded in the game and I went from Dorchester youth hockey too I was. I was like a school year program to the prep school thing. Dexter Cardigan Mile. I went to all of them. Whoever you're getting the law no no no? How'd you fit all these rich kids though? Yeah what the fuck the I.. Dexter just drilling some kid one debut like shut the fuck up. How did that go for you? A Dexter it was dexter was good. It was like guys like salt. Install and Levy Bird. And you know I think I'm trying to think one kid's name it'll come back to me halfway through it and you're going to be all over of a busy going to be like seriously got contain yourself so I will go go from the did the prep school thing and then when I got to and then I went to see him in. Kick Chris O'Sullivan Best French second around easing hockey. Probably like played right now. Now he'd he'd play right now. He's a six million dollar player. Could move the park that probably the most high skill of ever seen very game to Woodside say day right absolutely. Yeah but yeah but legit. I didn't come close skill wise. 'cause if you were to skate with Chris O'Sullivan the summer I mean He. How many games did he play play? He broke his neck. Yeah yeah he did break neck appeal but I mean this was like an incredible player high draft pick and he does think he did things with the puck that you're right nowadays with the game the way it is taking ended up in Calgary and then sutter I think the Sotos the coach Hatem as a check in line on the left weather like that. Ain't GonNa work craziness raising and he's and he's like but then again think of what you're doing in the NHL like you who beat out. I'm thinking who is the defense. You're literally trying for the number one. Yeah you're like okay. You're going to beat out Martin. McGuinness not mighty mean Assam. Defense Against Calgary. Yeah that's who you're going to beat out okay. Like that's going want to Saint John's. You're not you're not gonNA fill that role in the old. NFL You're going to try out. That's the spot. And if you can come up maybe in two three years to it's your job. It was like Marc Andre Berge. There's your on the he came up and he actually won jobs. powerplay specialist sometimes but it was hard to do actually hey krystal solvent. I want to hear your version of the story when he when he got. He shot the gun on when in the in the national title game or something wasn't it for Bu. I was I was numb. You know I wasn't there yet. All four before for their university yes switch. The story. Switched is in quotes won a national title. The next spot. Yes the thing what I I live by a march we can cut this. That's all right I live by. I WANNA the contract. You Never Forget. I mean you never remember the nights that you go and get like a twelve hour sleep and that has carried me through and that's been kind of thing like like hey guy was like. Hey we got something going over here at Simmons College that we we look we in when I went to be you I was a twenty one year old freshman coming from the. US H. L. Utah. You'd already party you'd already. I was already so when I got there it was like JP Dolphin. Bobby Lachance Chris. Kelleher Chris Jerry when I got there they were seniors. They were seniors out my age. I was a freshman coming in and so I was like going to school with girls. Born in like seventy nine eighty one I was. It was crazy so before I take you home so when I went there I like I would go. My first freshman year was fine and then I was staying out of the radar right under the radar kind on a little bit under the radar. First thing was I think Jack had me in Parker had me. And he's like you. You didn't go to class and I'm like well. I think I took a class off at psychology general studies like everyone. Yeah it's like they call it like crayons glue. Oh and scissors than it was like a school. That's the school within the school. The athletes. I'll probably get like some crazy letter from being like. Oh it's it's no. I think I should be good so then we go I in Jackson all right boy did you. Did you miss his class. And I'm like yeah but I mean I made like a majority of of them but I miss this class. He's like okay we suspended for. I took the game suspension. was like all right then. It was Monday night. Football all right and it just came back to Boston. I think it was like all they just a Monday night. Football game for the Patriots. We go out. I take a bunch. Did you guys out. We all go out. And then I might doesn't end. I ended up at DAD's diner like three in the morning so Mike Boyle was the strength and conditioning coach had another guy who worked for him and he was bartending at the bar. So I walk up and I had a couple of buddies with me and I said Hey. Gimmie three Biz and three shot auto. You didn't see me here and I'm like all cool moonwalking back in. I'm downstairs against diner. Place McGrady's now so then Jack Park comes into lock so he comes walking and he's walks any bombs and he goes allred fail safe points points both get over here get hallway treatment but he made a mistake. You made a mistake. I was with some boys on the team. I I come into the lock I come into his office. He had that you know that thing let alone rose as little room a little director's chairs Kinda creepy. And so I sat in there. And he's like he goes Did you go out the other night. And he had to rule Saturday night. Only yeah we have one night one night a week. You can only go night. But he'd be like tonight Saturday night tonight Saturday so that was Saturday night. So he's like did you go out and such. I was like well. I mean it was Monday. Okay football game and he and he said Who you with and I was like I go? What's my punishment? Instantly I go. What's my punishment? Eagles you're going to sit verse I think it was like maybe north because someone else and I and I said he goes no who you with and I knew it was only one game because he already set it in I go. I was with nobody and he was like he over. I spoke. He's probably GonNa be mad at me. He always spoken. I was like Oh you showed you hand argue. The punishment and I came back in the locker room. It's guys Italian escapes a practice and they knew kind of knew it was. Has It trickled through and guys are tying the skates and I was like you guys are all right. Yeah so so then we. The season goes on so that was Kinda strike too and and I like I love coach. Parker not like I loved loved him We had a good relationship. It was like a cool hand. Luke situational like he's like you're gonNA break before me right and and I still. AWW Beat me run ask them yeah exactly and so but I you know my thing was always have a good time and so I go out to I. I play a game. We play lull. I get a penalty and it's like crazy. Penalty Ref Goes Jackie. Do something happened in Jack was like I get like two a two and a ten second period too many of those so he he the referee I got the ten ten four four. The Ref goes what did you do. What did you say to the REF? Jack said and I said I go like I said. Did you see the fucking slash. I won't back the elbow declared slash. Whatever I did I go in? What did you say to him? And the block who I say Fuck Gawk. Scholarship saw and Jack was supposed to be like I thought what he thought that I was GONNA say like. I didn't say anything. That was exactly what I set a fucking God. The kid did this to me and I was getting. I'll get into penalty. I'm getting the penalty. It's gotta add up and and Jack was like that's it you're in Mook. Ville Mu Milk Full Ville. And I'll quickly. We go in was quickly gone the next day after Saturday night no matter what day it was Sunday morning he had a twenty mile bike. ooh Fuck they would take an hour on the fucking airlines to those airlines. Only move if you move the arms and the legs their hardest shit so you had to do that at what six. AM sometimes yes so I. He didn't have the fan bike to get out and run onto Kenmore Square. But I went out. I had a good time that night. It was Saturday night night though right technicality. It's still Saturday night. So I grew up with Chris Rooney. NHL Ref Check Yoga. Okay checkup I love him. I think he's one of the best refs he doesn't. He's one of the best realm five right number five he doesn't it's it's either black or white. It's been like that since we carpooled in school together. He doesn't dealing Gray Hideki the right or wrong. That's what it is. And that's how he officiates he. Actually he actually officiated ref to all the Games in the U. S. H. L.. Does no one who threw me out of more games than my best friend Chris Noonan he was checking you out of you. Oh absolutely boy stuff stuff that I was thinking about doing like. I'm GonNa do this kid dirty like this like this is going to be like an eight second. Wait while the kid passed it clumped zone. I'm like I'm going would've smoke him. He'd come in and somehow get penalty. He was like you were going to do something and I was like. I am so good minority anyway. Exactly exactly finds neighbor now. Yeah so then I so. I go to check his house Chris Rooney and he has like a full on bar and like they have like Chinese food buffets in Boston in South Boston. So I go fifteen brothers could Chinese food plate and a couple of beers in my pocket and I got head I had to move Ville Chinese food right so I go there. I go there and it was kind of like you know what was my what I was doing and you had enough. I had enough your test. Them you're like. Yeah let's see if they really gonNA actually fucking something you see. He's like this is like a Cathartic Buddy. I'm the same way I wasn't how I was always scared. That a little authority. When I was was younger there was a big problem because all the trouble got into? I didn't like authority. And while she didn't like Mook Phil Ville so I shall member Gus Epi you up best guy I think he was like Albanian. Bainian Fenian like rink guy. He was their bony lived under the ZAMBONI. You'd like there was. It's like a room that they had so I show up and I hadn't had any like I was like all right. Warm Skin. Eat Chinese food gases there at the rink. I'm there at five thirty for the six ago where I give you know. I have a beer. I'm not going to say gus had a beer and we eat the Chinese food so there was a graduate assistant. Coach won't say his name stone. The business he sees this whole thing. I do the run I smoke it and like I can go here on. Fi played a lot majority micro with my hair on fire and make it to Kenmore square bomb back. I think I do like a mile in like seven thirty. Just down to Kenmore Bul- BUL- fly fly back and forth. It was like no I was going to say. That's not that good unless they have been up all night in change so I do that. Run very quickly comeback back and Jack finds out and like it was like you know it was like my first deal into pro hockey. I come in and never talk mad. Dog Mela Mike Danila used equipment manager. You Guy come walking in like do do do do run a Fills over the week in all my stuff is in a black garbage bag in Olympians. Nothing in my stall and then go out and I go mike equipment like what's going on and so I go see Jack Jack so I go to Jack. And he's like three strikes. You're out that's it so then I went from your kicked kicked out of you so you learn from it and so I had grant stanbrook legendary recruiter of Maine. Yes he found Penner yet. Wow Yeah what teddy pursell. Possibly I don't know for. It is to find like incredible players in like the you know a western Canada. It was just like I think the Best Grant Stamp East to calm the gray ghost right. He He'd be like hitting the glass and setting up and then sitting middle and I asked one time he said. Why do you still time he goes? I can see each level of the game. I can see see how fast the game is at the glass. I can see from thirty thousand feet from up top Lao guys can think about it. And he's just so he would see that and he goes. I don't I sit with anyone because I don't want anyone to cloud my opinion of what I'm looking at us. Good Holy Shit Dude. He was the architect of that ninety. Three team of like Jimmy Montgomery Dallas Coach Yours. Paul Korea Hal Ingram only won the national champion. We're here for our PD. Ferraro hide every other game forty two one and two lost and tied. Bu Of two teams. Yeah she's so so so you had to take a year off because of transfer and so fucking stupid. Sorry yeah I try to sue the NC Double A.. There was like you really try. Tried to sue them in the sense of try to get a A technicality for like girls wavelength ball like where girls volleyball at the varsity level. I think it was shot. They didn't have to. You know what I mean but it was like. That's what it is. It's all money talk yet. No big big big money. People can transfer right right over not rich people that play in that. I think so like those type of sports but now going to main the main thing being you had to figure out not only what we're GONNA do that year but where you're GONNA go dude. I was crazy. Ryan Walsh Right. I was hat in hand hand. I was like my Maine's a good team where I I would've said honestly like for the most part get kicked out of be you like. I'm not trying to dog and teams but he ends up at Lola reenter main not to say it was a great at school but they were such a good team that they may not take on somebody who got kicked out to be you you know but he'd just obviously loved your game so I had grant at the US Olympic festival and the the year. Before I went to be you and I played on that national team. which is we could do two hours on? That was awesome and so I go from. Bu Go and literally. I talked to Michigan Michigan State. BC talked to calve Boston College in S- like like literally like everyone want hat and he had like this is me me one. Like death of a salesman. William only really gotten remember when you talk to me. I used to be unbelievable. Chinese Dover and Dan now I quitted totally grew up two months ago so much two weeks ago okay so Any of those teams ever offer money so I couldn't and I couldn't take the money right. I couldn't 'cause I'm not a scholarship. Athletes have to sit out so this is unbelievable so I go so great I call grant grant I got nothing what he got. He's like we're doing right now. I I don't know I'm just sitting here. He's like which come up to the game. We're playing. I think the Boston College or Lola. Another hockey team main was and and they had just come off. NCWA sanctions from the a national championship team. In Ninety three ninety four ninety five all that arose they had some issues and I was like I mean. It's like three and a half half hours. He's like yeah. Get your car income right now. I have nothing going on. So what am I gonNA say like comfy. I don't know I got in the car. I drove up. They were they wear a suit no chance no so I drove up by myself and bomb up three half hours from from Dorchester. I go talk out to Sean Walsh. After the game they had smoked. Whoever they play member he came in and he just one of the greatest coaches literally great? He's the best coach of a place. All right that's coach. I played eight for absolutely like He. He was weight and I think I talked to said why. Don't you go to like have you thought about going the NHL and he goes the talks before but he he was smart he. It was like whether it would happen not he was like. I'm not doing it unless I'M GONNA system. GM and the coach. I'm getting the groceries and I'm going to try to do. He's he's not. I'm not taking other people's you know other people picking guys for me and he's like I'm not coaching guys. I don't want to coach. That makes a lot of sense so he was holding out for that and he had a great deal at main but when I say like why went up there and I talked to him and he was like he came in he has always had like you know like a piece of paper Pad. No Pat Thank you. He came any slammed the town. He's like we're GonNa get it going here while she you're gonNA come in. I'll tell you right now. We're going to do this. We're going to do that. These are the players this is. Why have you? He just played. He already had me inserted in the line up for two years out with recruiting charts in every and I was like I'm coming here and I I literally drove the next exit down on ninety five and I called my mom from a payphone and I was like mom I I made my decision. We're GONNA make. That's that's fucking. He was he was so enthusiastic where he looked you in the eyes. And you're like man this WanNa go there Biz like when I say video. Oh no one did video like this. Like how's it and this is what I thought he can. Patrick call the story here. A Ah Glennon Patrick would wheel in. VHS Yeah that he he threw in the VHS because we played right so bad the game before and he made us watch the first two periods with no chop. Video wessels changes like you know. There's no five five Tom Grace's breakdown in the second third anymore. Jimmy morlock would come in so so back to the harvest so it would be. You would have a clipboard. and He'd have all these people breaking this stuff down like a graduate assistants and people would be chances for chances against hits and turnovers likes and dislikes. I three minutes last three minutes and it would be like all charts you would go down and would be you like thirteen fifty eight foot little chances for chance against I remember Dan Kurla quite played with had a hat trick. He was three chances for nine against it gave he fucking gave it to him. He was like this. I can get fucking guys to score goals. I don't need you to score goals. I can't goals against later on. It's it's go. This guy was was at the forefront of analytics absolute. Wow absolutely we used to have when we won. We won a national title in Anaheim. Right in Anaheim UNH I remember watching the game and we had different four checks right with guys. You'd have to go look at your D- partners and like the D.. Would have to see who was whether it was like one to two or two men hard depending on the line not not paying line. Just just look I already had like. I was one to two like senator over. All the other team would be with each different line. Yeah that's what the. Oh yes manners at one minute. Yeah right in for those listening like if you WANNA run like a like a one to two you know. That's a that's a common force that's a very Passive very pass of kind of like New Jersey Devil style. Or you do it where you do The press where the demon pension the center. Men's the sentiments always in support report strong side. But that's what he knew on the team who on the team you're playing against couldn't handle what pretty much he thought he knew. At least he would have the he would take an inventory. Like if you know for me my whole career I want you know what I mean because kamikaze up and like some other guys we had like you guys from. You know who who did different types of styles bureau guys will like all right played on Olympic sheets. They will like all right. We'll wait this out and STU in Wilkspur looks for. I don't know if it was todd richards or Dan Bosma but very similar in a sense where sometimes you call out based on the team replaying first ten minutes so the first period we're playing full court press for checks. I love it. Just kind of put him on heels and sometimes we bank a few early just because we had good teams. Yeah and then halfway through all right boys were easing off back to the one to two and he called on the bench and I thought it was cool. Like yeah like it's it's strongly under team off your bring it to the level where each different light had a different one. Yeah that's I mean the other Hobby it was surfing the they're going crazy before we move on from Maine I wanted to know. Is there like the first game against E.. You remember that or did you. I remember one of the last game I I knew you must have had one. We had one where. You're yelling at. Parker I'm sure no no it was. It was unbelievable by was like now. It's kind of wrapping up. My crew. Played them a bunch deep chosen net and so actually the year. I sat out very quickly so and he was like listen the NCAA thing is not going to happen for you. You're just sitting out and I was like all right. I played all the preseason games aims. So he was like listen. You're part of it so I was like you know Julie McCoy love boat like routing Nater Fahrenheit Alaska Basil from the US National Program up tricking Nikki Deem ATTRAC- OHS who oh cool that he made you feel a part of it in regards to where like you're picking potential teammate. Yes so Janik Doug Dougie Janik delayed with Cam Nico. GEICO was kind of a kind of a nice thing for you. I don't know if it's part of the reason why you've gotten involved in hockey media after playing but it gives you a different perspective and all all of a sudden the guy worrying about yourself nick. Now you're you're like damn. I think maybe this guy can help us out because I really like this game and now you're watching him play and now it was good so we'd have all these guys guys he's with these guys in Wall Street. Come in and give me like the crazy backstory member. Jeff Jolson. Oh Yeah so we had Jeff Joel Singer. Yep and here in Michigan but he was like National Development Program to shell I I can't remember. Oh No yeah he was. US National Program. I think he was part of like Mount Saint Charles before order so he can he can he comes in and wall. She's like all right so he's like here's the deal. We're going to have dinner at his house. We go have dinner while she's cooking steaks. The Grill people like in the house. PA Steve Korea's with me. Steve Paul's brother. Yes yeah I played an exhibition Bishen game against somebody who was in Long Island and he absolutely walked me. Exhibition game was played in wheeling West. Virginia Oh yeah so that yeah. That was a tough one Sorry guys cookout so we have a little cookout and he's like you so while she Brennan what you come outside and talk to me so we go to the the the grill. It's like total suburbia. Where we'll she was so he comes and he's like all right? Here's the deal you're gonNA We're GONNA talk about the statue where where we see him in the future. A power play. Steve's GonNa probably bring in some of the stuff what we're doing on the power play but like this was like next level like the the warm and fuzzies. This kid was feeling and he's like all right Brennan. This kid's a forestry major then you insert the forestry like and gave me some backstory on the forest and I'm like I'm from fucking door even even have fucking trees. He's like all right. Well let's just move on. We'll move on the next next next thing didn't actually get ah Jelly but great player but while she tremendous so we could go on for so long but like we still have even gotten to pro hockey but before we get there. The one thing I had written down and I'd heard from a bunch of people is go back quickly to the US Ahl days an incident in Dubuque that went down so so for people who don't don't know how we haven't brought up at this guy is a real was a real motherfucker to play games you were just a dirty hard nosed little rat and it was like you took on it so so. I'm assuming something that happened in the game that led up to this issue in Dubuque so I the USA Shell was Great League and so I ended up at the end of the season season. I remember being in Dubuque and they have like stands on one side and were they three seconds left in the game like three seconds seconds left. I remember this kid. Dwyer is To our big talk and he just wants to get into it. We had won the game and he's like right in my face he's like let's do it let's do it. I just looked at him. He's like let's go. Let's do it. I just look at them. I'm like I'm exhausted. Just killed a penalty and I remembered that I just looked at the most like no thank. Just drop them just cross. Check them kind of near the head area so enos a she s and so he drops and I just step over him games over. Don't even tap. The goalie opened the gate and we walk out and the game with the prospect of the famous. Check like Boom Reps. Like what just happened. I was like all right. I'm GONNA leave announced. Okay see you later and so relieve so I'm going we we go into the thing so like there's a tunnel you have to go and get to the bus and it's like it's like same thing in in any ring Kennedy. You got the boss the stick bag the whole thing so I got me when I'm carrying my bag out to the fucking Tuck in bus and so I see what I think is the Dwyer family just standing there and there's a whole group of people just sitting there like waiting waiting on like. Oh there's Walsh I remember like you know it's like a small town sitting there and this is like a tall one a a medium size one which I think. I don't even know to this day. I thought it may have been. His brother could have been fifteen years old sixteen years old. So I'm sitting there and I'm I'm walking out of the the drink and I'm just waiting. I'm like I'm going to get it. I'm like this is like I'm walking through the fire. Yeah I'm walking through the fire. Someone's just GonNa like either. Hit me with a bottle or hit me with something. This is GonNa get crazy all of a sudden I get. I'm like I'm just waiting. I'm just waiting and I'm a lefty Biz. Keep that for later. So oh I go and I get pushed and I just turn around bags on my right and I use the weight bag. I'm like I go to smoke and it was like I think it and to this today I still don't know there was a kid was like fifteen sixteen. The other kid who I went to go hit who hit me was like see you later. Boom extra just start on the fifteen sixteen year old right just the painting right extra and Jose I was like Oh my so now I just look up the kids just like I am. I in a board assured under this kid and then I gets dumped by all of that was like a turtle my strategy shop rolled-over. Oh my God I saw. I'm glad we asked about all right so main end win a national title incredible liberal incredible career. What's first step in pro hockey? Where did you get a look undrafted of emissions at obviously signing off after to win it all these pills that we need like Nhl guys like obviously your draft did your fucking rat lobbyists? Obviously you're able to carve out a niche in this little shitty career petrified story to see him in Summer League I was just I I always stress free agent signing you. FFA what how did that go down and where was wild okay. Hey Minnesota wild the first year that program and believe me. I'll tell you what it wasn't like the vagus nights you know real seize Minnesota wild that it you know that was the time and there's nothing against like and I know what my game is. I'm zero ego right. I'm just telling you like you want to know what I'm thinking so I go to that camp like Scott Pellerin. Great play a main hockey guy. KRIVA crass off there was like Darby Hendrickson. It will guys there's west walls there then. Yes yes sean. O'donnell Sean O'Donnell got there late wasn't too happy. That's a story for another day. And he picked up lately. That's not who you want to get picked up by by that. Scary man. Scary like is like a Mako. Your life like dolls. Is You look at them. I'm like hm so we go to camp there and I looked at that cap and I was like those like title went to Camp. It was Kinda like free will and going around and I was. It's like this is the NHL. And I'm not bashing anyone it just wasn't it wasn't wanting to Pittsburgh camp. Mario lemieux struck Lang Kovolev Darius gastritis fantasy fantasy camp. Yeah it's way different than a first year like who's everyone. Yeah I was like. Hey Nice to meet Joe. My name is Brenda Walsh. And if you go against me. A drill What's the John Brophy Story? So I go. I got sent down to the legendary awesome. Ahl H. L. Coach coach. Yes but he's he defeated forever real quick real quick on the Minnesota wild thing go to camp there like there's no fighting camp. There's no fighting you can't y and so I'm like sitting there I had. I'd like some college kid. Like get cat. Burn me for a minus in like I go when the kids scored like the kids. Scores torches me so like aligned backup. Jesus Christ awesome. Felt like the kid is like these college kids like a went to duluth or something and I sat down. I was like lineup of the face off. The kids like Like bumps into me like I was like I just looked at him and I was like and I looked at him. I was like deers. I grabbed him right when the face off he. Because there's no fighting I go all this fighting now and I don't give her and then it started from that fight like lasted and then then. Shane candidate Welsh coach. Shane Kenny but Shell Kit. He ends up smoking. Get Marry Ingeborg and like Intersquad game or job. Rick hold onto your borer Gevork and you love either way beating. I if you're going to correct on the you know you were drafted as opposed. So you're a free crazy signing boric. It Ain't getting the fucking gayborhood. Can I say it. What is it? Good Barak Gabbert Ghabra either way he got smoked because you started the camp and so he he goes out and gets smoked by this kid from the show. I think Shane Kenny. Super Tough Kid. Great Hidden Campaign. Unlike this kid just freight trains and I was. I don't even know how this whole pro hockey thing works and I was like that. Ain't good guys not supposed to be injured. That guy's not supposed to hit like blown up Blue Line like and so I go change some kid and I go out I go one hundred miles on myrow. Tremblay was my coach. And he's like. I don't know if you want to do that as I left the bench. I'm like I think I'm going to be okay. Great fight you know no winners the losers August shit and Diana Pam dropping them and then I get back to the bench and Trombley and I'm like I've watched him. You Know Montreal Canadian and he was like you gotta be from Boston and I was like what what makes yeah. They told us no fighting a training camp for one year in me car solo went out and I I walked in to make. It was eight thirty in the morning and they were Shannon is told at eight thirty in the morning I love. I love those early fight camp stories with as just far but it's sparks going on. I was you Betcha five please. Nobody was I was at a point in my career. Where like you know as you get older in your body? It's a little more banged up. You got to take a lot to get you warm and you don't really want to be competing at that time in the morning but I knew one speed I can just play a Tommy stick game in H.. L. Training Camp. I was there to try to make a team Amos stupidest. That sounds as naive as that is now. You wake up every day. I today's the day now saying that I ended up almost making the team as an eighteen year. Old defenseman that year. I was the last cut did you. You look even younger. CRM obviously us. Were always just be like I'm just going to piss everyone off but that's just how you were always out there where we grew up like the neighborhood that I grew up in and I I was able to dance between Dorchester and South Boston and You know the the kids that I grew up with playing with hanging out with all incredible ball breakers like Yoshida the funk you will get scorched but it's like people don't be honest and he always honest to Boston part of this podcast. It's really brought up before that you go go away and it's like if I'm not chirping you I don't like you know but that's just it. It's just like that here all the time yes back to. Yeah let's tell that brophy story I go to I go to whaling after was in Pittsburgh's camp which is awesome real quick on the Pittsburgh camp. I've never seen anything like it. They had linked to was the coach. And I get stuck into the first practice group. So it's like once the camp kind of broke and it was right before it went to a Wilksbury so I'm with like it's Mario lemieux which struck there was like. Maybe three guys weren't on the team. WHO JUST DID WANNA go golf later? So they just went to the skated. The practice and the practice was rikio. Yup Yup so he's at Lincoln's run in the practice in the practice Biz as these practices weren't built for guys like you and me. This is like everyone's a hundred miles. An hour with the last guy in line right is got to do something in the drill Israel which I hate those drills knowing pay attention pay attention all right. Jesus Christ I forgot that I'm like gone back and forth you know so it's like you're the poster child child Ritalin. These practices aren't built for you. You like but I remember the puck back and you're like wait. The faulk walk every time you discuss. Start the practice there's like mucking Canadian Olympic drill right. It's like guys where people are home. It's like got Canada Cop Canada Cup just crazy like it. Ain't that fucking crazy Mike and put up with our but I'm saying the speed the surf like these and I'll never forget I was never like more masculine. Straka was like running on on his skates. Just like runnings never stick down. So I'm like and I'm just like now. Everyone's kind of looking because now it's it's the one pass and then the other guys in the past but you have to wait eight hundred four guys behind you being like this guy snaps tape to tape. I just lay it out there. Just like couldn't not skating gait into it but then he wasn't wasn't even good so he's got to kick it up so he's like and I'm like oh no. This is my chance he kicks. It looks back at me in labs. He's Zayn you're the new guy or the no mamer and camp like whereas like if you're on the team for four or five years and you missed one of the guys make funny on your like ha ha. I WANNA one way or not. You're on a three way and you know what the point you're going to whaling at some point during this adventure like yeah so so we saw anyway that practice goes and I've never seen anything like it. We go for like thirty eight minutes. Everyone's moving and grooving everyone's one's flying and so they go to the board to do some drills and it was like a pause at the board in Mario lemieux's there I'll say Mario it. Mario goes in the Helen. dewar and Margot's I think we're good calls the practice team okay. How's the practice? Hey so over Over all right let's do so. I hold on Biz I try to slide out like right. It's like me and three other guys who are like East Coast guys in this group all right cool and like I think we're done guys great job. Good job guys. Let's go get state and they're like all right. We gotTA teatime see laid up by Mike. Did Joey who the fuck do you think you're going. I mean just practice obese fucking bag and let's go for you it is. I told the story. Ah The podcast before was my first. Nhl Training camp with Pittsburgh. And I was in Mario's group. That's what he keeps getting back. And Eddie Olczyk was a coach and that was his first year as coach coach. And I was in somehow in that group and every every time that you were the team that wasn't playing in the Inter squad game yet because there was three teams. You would beg skied after Yup. Well Eddie all checks I K- boys Greek practice today. We're just GONNA end it off with a skate. And then you hear like a little whistle and look over. What's uh-huh everyone else does? And it was Mario and he he just gives me one of these like Nah. Nah Very similar merger story. And he's like okay. Boys great they must have had a Teton and I was like what what jets coach. Joey ain't banks which it's over so that's a home needs to brophy. You brought all talk. I go to I go down to whaling. I see I've meet. The guy is a legend complete complete legend. mind out of his mind like old school old old school. One drill one for the whole practice. Our pod Mohali told me that they weren't playing great. I play one point skill. Honesty gain aware Parma. Hollywood guy coming off the bus no worldwide. No word of a lie. One of the more had had some guys I've ever played with one of the best practice players ever sierras tire. fucking I was like. How is this guy not in the fucking show? I I said the same thing. And he's actually still playing. He's playing over in Romania which was where he was from Super he told me he goes. Do I never had brophy. Goes Man that guy would beg. Neg Skate. US IN PRE-GAME SKATE LINE IT UP. Yeah back off over in back like what back like. That's my first game. I get down to wailing late. I'm completely sows. Jeez I really wanted to make that Wilkspur I mean up in Wilkes Barre and like all right. It's contractual thing that's gonNA shake out. You'RE GONNA be right back up. grinded rounded out grinded out so I go down so that their season already started so I lined up. I'm in a dark place. I practiced once that crazy like over back. I'm like what is going on. Move into a double wide trailer. I was like what it literally like outside my house. Above all it was it. Was the trucks like downshifting outside the the double wide trailer. Oh with Kirk Bowman and Dillon Gerry and so we go to this thing. I see shawl go. Oh play Toledo is looking over this kid. Maltby who had fought upon Shaw Guy. You're playing in the Toledo barn. Where the wheel? Okay sorry willing so I go over there and I go there. I think I get to start the game. Don't even really talk to them to five ten into the penalty box. You've got this first shift for like start the game I was like I'm not. I'm just pissed them here. Like whatever I get into this thing. I had fought this kid before to five. Get a misconduct seventeen inch seventeen minutes of your entire first parish period. I get out like a minute and a half two minutes left right thing and walk out. I'm like all right. There's no fucking possible way in my mind. Is this guy going to put me back on the ice. He's like and I was like what draw right now. I'm like I've been sitting there tied. My skin felt pardon. Me One second. Let me get back out there like thing. That was broke so then we go play rewarded you for being a psychopath complete psychopath so we go to reading and they just built this building in reading reading the craziest stories I ever had so we go to reading. And it's like one of those games you come off the bus and all all of a sudden you like everyone's like Jesus all of a sudden it's like three nothing in the first period there lot is going on like it's crazy so in between the first first and second period he comes in like I got to wake up so I go over and get this coffee in the coffee that had poor this coffee and it literally. It's it's like Jesus fucking hot lava. I'm like that's hot. That's hot and then I'm waiting for proof. Broke comes in kicks. The door open so he goes over and pours the coffee the coffee. But I'm drinking this hot coffee waiting for this verbal barrage to happen. I'm like waiting for these like the. The air is getting sucked out of the room before. He's like we're going to do that some. I can't even drink coffee and I'm watching so I'm like in a different place mentally. I'm just watching the coffee. And brophy's hand the cop know how hard it he doesn't know hottest. It's fucking scolding kids like Indiana Jones boring off a lot of us right right. So I'm sitting there in the coffees burn. I'm just sitting there. Like Jesus fucking look at this crazy. And he's like he goes and he's like where we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA get high. We're GONNA cycles. I go get it over the line. Get it in and we'll get get shots in the net. Get shots too that we've got crashed all of a sudden this. This guy comes in because right the guy comes in and goes fucking five minutes like right out of News Los. We don't have caught the guy who's GonNa tell you guys come to these like five five minutes offie in his hand so I'm like I'm just sitting on like all right. This is just taking a turn. And so I'm I'm like I still can't drink the coffee this as little yelling. It's still hot. Seventeen minutes of this fucking just him giving it to us goes into kids like three four minutes and the Guy I. I don't think that we're GONNA be. We're GONNA protect the kid comes in a minute later. He's like three minutes in the fucking proof goes I. I said he'll walk the genuine guy. Nicest guy and was genuine coffee. Hit this guy with a cup of coffee torch shots like he's nuts so so then go on the ice and like the door opens a kids like half pixel modern people like what are you doing. What are you step over the kid? I'm like like I gotta go and like we're all have stepping over this kid. Alan Iverson play second. We tie it up. I thought Ryan Flynn end up getting kicked out of the game and I yeah. I think we're yeah plenty and then kicked out of the game. It's not over. We go on the bus. I'm like we can't find him was breath as we go mobile on the run around the corner. The police had come. It's like slapshot. Police had come to find out. We're both was picked him up at mobile on the run. He left the building right and left the building. We pick them up at mobile and nothing ever came of it but he knows I gotta get Outta this morning. I gotTA GET OUTTA here. Like he coached the great game. We came back and got a tie and then he knew common and he left the ring. You saw the fire trucks there. How burn victims? Thank you let me do one more quick one. Nice okay you last season-low lock monsters one game. Did you play it and realized that was it you were done. Did you get hurt. What was no I was? I was coaching this amazing story. Keith Aucoin is playing Joel Ray was Collie for Manchester Right. So Joe was torturing them right like lull like they had all college kids. It was like Brian was on the team. They had a bunch of guys store. Yes a bunch of kids on the team so Tom Bro- and Keith. Aucoin call me on Mike. While I'm in the office. Coaching at Northeast. And they said Hey. Can you come back and play and I was always in good shape which are to keep myself in shape. Just like yourself Biz. Try to stay. Lean ready to go. The Old Dad bought so I didn't have Dad Baud so I was like. Yeah I'm in. I'm in I'll I'll go do it but and I had got. I had previous fights with Joe earlier which I have my my favorite thing with Joe was I had some guys on who are Manchester. Who Knew Him and I know it's not this? This isn't anything against him. I just like you know those guys. I'm like take up a lot of oxygen in the room and just getting the guys all right it was like what's the Stewart really. I talked to my buddies not nameless. I don't WanNa blow them up and so they're like this is how he is. This is how he is. But he's a good guy. But I'm getting AMMO so I was like all right good so we go to go to Manchester while playing in providence stretching out at the red line Joe comes over. It's like Cam. Malaria dougie Nolan. Couple other guys just sitting there and I'm like I'm like hey guys we're stretching chocolate. Something else he comes over like just to kind of be in because it's Chitchat dime right. redlining the guys know it's warm ups. Okay what's going on guys going on where you guys can later on. So he comes guys seriously. Blink your eyes. If you don't like Joe just blink. I know you can't say it just blinking like just blink. If you don't even like this kit and he's like what is that like what I'm like. He's a jerk right you just you don't have to say don't say it like stretch out in guys guys. He doesn't like it so anyway. He tortures law. I come back for the game so I come back to play low. I sign up. PTO Go back active. Play low come out of the warm ups. I took a little script from Brian McFadden. I'm like maybe guys thing. I get some penalty minutes. I got a little bit of pedigree. Come right out in the like the stat pack. How much CAPAC you guys need me to look and you look and say oh who the fuck is this guy? Come up the U-HAUL for four hundred fucking minutes. Does anyone know this fucking left us. You're right yes. It was before. Youtube existence scrolls. It's legit running. Came running on the ice. I'm like I little page Outta Mister McGregor's book came around the ice and I was Jose Joe. Hey what's up. And he just like he didn't see the stat pack. He was just like wall. She was like what the and I was like. All Its on. It is on like rape coupon. It's GONNA get weird. And he was like he was like get so he played couple of shifts. Shut him down. They were like in the playoffs. Yeah Eh didn't come out. They brought in their enforce from northeastern coaching staffs. And you even have to go. Didn't have to go but I came out came on Muhammad all fucking. They still got two minutes. I got on the sheet. You gotTA hooking us. Oh no no the obstruction. was there like my stick. Went to like Buck Doc. In Ninety degrees there like instruction. I'm like this wasn't even in the League when I was granted. What what's the rule? What does it might be a Jordan reed the pack? You didn't read the rule books. Both is a perfect way to end their soul. Like you're you're a guy that you hanging around the rink rank running to you. It's awesome hearing these stories so and also to you great job now Boston police officer. It's pretty cool to know that you're out there protecting everyone in Boston. But it means a lot for you to come on and listen so thank you very much and we'll have to do this again. Absolutely thank you guys come back in. And just unburden myself. So it's perfect perfect. It's Cathartic Oprah's couch today. Thank you very much guys. Thanks pal man at Absolute piece of Work Brendon Walsh again. He probably didn't have them before chocolates. I'm sure you're familiar with his work. Now he'll definitely be back. He's good stories up the Wazoo as he would say okay so Next up the story at made the rounds. Needless to say a busy shitty Cindy I think that describes it all so I really don't want to get into Alad busy day. Get Away let's go to city Shitty shitty Cindy Lou on one the call. They're not a big deal in Manchester. I want a little bit of an Antonio Benders I went pretty hard for about a month. capping that Little Bender Season off after the caller cup with a trip to the stampede compete. Well I got back from a stampede. All my buddies were at a local bar in Vancouver where I was Gonna spend the summer called the local and Kit Solano met him there and and was going over the trip talking them and sure enough there were there was a woman like I said that last episode a woman to me is like a a an older woman. Who so you know she? She dresses nice and she has a presence about. Oh you're like damn like this one gets me going now. She was she was giving me the hungry ice and that was evident at this bar so eventually I finally walked over introduced myself exchanged numbers and and that was that at that time so about two weeks later I had a hernia hernia surgery scheduled. I fly to Saint Louis get the hernia surgery and flying back and it was convenient that my friend and was leaving town and she had a beautiful home in kits Lanell so she let me house sit for and stay there while recovered. well as I mentioned had been two weeks. I haven't really heard heard from that. The the the woman that I had met and it just so happened she had the night to hang out and I said all. Can we do it another time because I still kind of hurting. And and she's like oh I'm I'm really busy. The next couple of weeks and me being the horn ball that I am not a not not getting a kill like at that point in time. I'm doing whatever it takes. Aches to get the stat. And she was sexy so she ends up coming over and when she came over she was a little tipsy. In in the minute we started kissing on my like. Oh my God. This chicken starving like like she needed my cock like she needed. Oxygen to live in business. You know when you kiss a girl and you're like okay hi this is GonNa be Cirque du Soleil like like it's going to be nice. It's GonNa be nice so even the fact that I couldn't really move around much in an and she was well aware of that. I still had bandages on. For Christ's sake I start basically French dipping our and going missionary style very light but as I mentioned like she was just so oh so horny for it. Wait a dip in without. You GotTa explain that you know your whole they keep it at stiff Dipa and the old for the Fund when you dip your finger you're in you'll you'll find this action missionary style. So I bent over started making elder while I was screwing Mr Style and it didn't take long and you know what a girl fakes an orgasm. Trust me I've had plenty fake orgasms. Me I knew it wasn't fake because the amount of you know the pressure you you know what I'm talking about when you make a girl come the pressures I really don't okay. Well I can catch like they're doing on your cock. Well no not on it. I was on her right right missionary. That's all I could really do. So she ends up coming in. You know I'm feeling good about myself. And I wanted to bender over switch positions and that's what I noticed ship and I'm Mike like Jesus Christ and she's like. Oh my God. I'm so embarrassed and I'm Mike Y'all just like the Stinky Pussy Story. Everybody has a bad day. Shit happens no pun intended. I said go clean up on. I'm finishing off. I'm a selfish motherfucker. It ain't stopping there. So she ends up going to the bathroom cleaning up. We end up going going to the bathroom to finish. I said you know what just blow me. So she kind of gets down that squat position and and and I'm and I'm like play with yourself while you're doing it and she was all about as you start playing with yourself and on my goal. Yeah here she comes here she comes and I am blowing as I blow on her chee orgasms again. But all this fucking blood it comes rushing out of her pussy onto the fuck and white marble floor off Lawrence again. Everybody has a bad day. The first thing on my head is I cannot wait eight to call my friend. Jackie the alien and tell her this fucking story so I was polite and gentlemen and she's like Oh my God the whole time. I'm so embarrassed on Mike. Let's say whatever I don't care I've seen I've seen in a Lotta gross shit. Don't worry about it you're gonNA. You're going to be a fucking story though so I ended up calling my my friends who I'm not the person and obviously I'm standard house but our friend and calm and I told the whole story teller about the sheets and she goes. Oh my God Paul. She has really expensive sheets. That's when I found out how much those fucking things cost. Well if if you think that's the last time I ever saw shitty send e not a fucking chance. I text said those sheets that you should honor very expensive. You're paying for them so she ended up meet. Meet me a few days later and I made her giving cash. Did you try to get another session. And the only way I was doing it inside some fucking bubble wrapped room. Maybe but it was a tough night for Cindy and thousand thread headcount. I'll never forget she fucking she's like are you serious or you want me to pay for them. I'm like fuck. Yeah what do you mean. I should've sheets nope. Nope you're grown woman. You got a job. You WanNa Shit on sheets you'RE GONNA pay for it. I made minimum wage fucking plan in the league. They're giving me a a a seven K bonus for two month call their cup run. I paying for seven hundred dollar sheets so we ended up. We ended up getting the Dole and that was the last time I seen gene cindy so Shitty send e we love you and the reason I got a little bit nervous and I was kind of foaming my words last time. I'm like Jesus Christ I duNno Homina and the story or uh-huh and I kind of panicked. It didn't tell the ending because I had been getting a lot of tax about digital initiative. Finish Fuck Guy. And that's what I did but there was more consequence. Finish Finish Biz. Nasty doesn't he's like the Rockstar Biz. Nasty Guy I got tweets come on we get Biz nasty finish. I don't know take a guess on. I'm a sick puppy Kenner. I couldn't I couldn't. I'd never seen anything like it was just like this. Like blood rush out of there and I looked at the spock is wrong with you. Your shirt you're fucking in period in all over the place like what's going on your loose unbelievable. So that's that wraps Shitty said these part up sorry to bring it back up for you. People people who grossed out by that sort of thing I feel for the ones that did enjoy the story We can all laugh and having a hell of a lot we need to add to that. Except for maybe some Shaman and a cotton L. White but Biz. You are piece of work. Meanwhile Tim Stapleton and other guy who a lot of our listeners. Probably maybe not familiar with Christ. I had a google twice. It was probably funniest interview all year. I don't say that lightly I he manages burn the place down dry wit awesome Russian story. Sorry so again without further ADO Buddy Tim Stapleton. Who absolutely kill you? We're now joined by good friend of mine. This makes me very excited. Very happy to talk to a guy who many people listening may not know a ton about one case. I mean tell you before we start this thing this suitcase. He's played four years at Minnesota Duluth hundred sixty games. Roughly roughly one hundred sixty points. How's that for stats? Before they were national title. Sorry about that. He then went over to Finland Finland and he lit up and Helsinki for a couple years and then comes back and plays up and down H. L. Nhl before going back over to Russia and the cage. I'll Switzerland Sweden and then finishes in Germany with over point per game in his last year. Thanks for coming Tim Stapleton. Thanks for joining the PODCAST. But he thinks forever. I got I think we ought to open this pockets up with with halpern everywhere man. He really has. He really has so the first time that you were going to meet up with us and do this interview. was that our disaster of of a live show last year in Chicago where there was no volume. There was no audio. We couldn't figure it out so I said we'll come back and you said I wanna do this in person so it's a pleasure to finally have you dude how you been good in that That's funny that time because I was just called me on the spot you did read Simpson. Yes yes yes and I'm fucking brought me in what I need. I need to talk about you know and I was sitting there with read. This was actually funny for me because I was like nervous. And I'm like read sitting. There were standing in the crowd. And I'm like Uh uh I'm like read you you. You know what you're going to say. And he's like no not really and then like two minutes later he was like Ron Burgundy pulled out a sheet day stories stories. But thank God the Mike's pro. Because I had no idea what I was GONNA say. Yeah you're like I need to prepare for this interview. I need to prepare all right dude. It's been two years since you retired. Right yeah so what what's going on. And why did you stop playing. I mean it's like you were fucking buzzing around. It seemed like you could play forever. It was it just I'm sick and tired of playing point hockey. Yeah kind of also. I had my second child my daughter. Thank you and on the sex. It works but No I just Yeah it was time to quit and I started a South African beef jerky company so this was sent to my house. And it's legitimate. Tell Him we got pictures over here but is the correct way to say. What kind of meat is this? What are the animals? Were eating here. It's a beef product not squirrels with feathers effect. Reinvented Swirl head feathers not my brightest moment. So how's that going. I mean is it because you're trying to hop into something after hockey. It's tough have to be like what am I gonNa do now right yeah no it's I got offered my my business partner. A Guy guy. He's older guy named Jim mullins to private labeled sauce for all the McDonald's so they make all the catch all right then and they sold that company he lived in South Africa. The bill tongue is actually the carrying carrying process And it's just air dried as opposed to cooked and it's it's really healthy no sugar. Yeah thirty percent. More protein in grams grams oppose. I'm sitting the center of Moxham anyways. Thanks for having me guys of course of course or brought to you by Waikiki. Dot Com. Why are you still here do interviews with the South Africa come into it? So he Jim Lived out there in the early nineties oath. McDonald's hired their family to open up a plant out. There that makes us have you eaten. At Nano's England developed developed the data they develop Perry Perry Sauce for all that that company nets basically Chile Not many people know what that is but he he he lived out there for like eight years seven years. Yeah I loved it. I heard it doesn't stop talking about it. I am not on yet. Have you seen district nine. Now it's great fucking the best movie science fiction movie about a speech Science Fiction on Dr Aunt Word or something they are an would. There's a South African rap group. You GotTa know who the Fuck Sal Holt African Avenue. Yes are Diane words the name and it's a girl and guy rap group on the South Africa's history other than the fact that they make great beef jerky probably we just as well. Yeah that's all I do know I mean that's all you have your right but I don't know much about South Africa besides the bill. Tung This guy black so Yeah no Jim just kind of it was his idea and then he just asked me to know because I mean the logo. It's definitely I catch. You see too too often do at born and raised right outside Chicago correct. Yeah for source park nine miles west. So so you're you're older than me thirty seven now. I believe you are so what was Utah. Ki- like around here. I can't imagine is that good grown up at like twelve thirteen. Were you just traveling so much. It was alright it just wasn't you know since the Hawks doing good. It's yeah it's really good but I mean like I met my agent at a We read hockey. which is like you pay open hockey? You pay like ten dollars and like just yeah. That's how I met my agent and Bill Zito. WHO's like the assistant skating? He he was skating. Clients bad dude. Yeah he's like yeah that that's basically how I met him and then so you would go skate. That was okay fifty. Yeah Open ice before you at the Green Bay gamblers. Yeah okay this is GonNa get you to Green Bay. I don't know that's a good question. I don't think so like you were just like I was just rafted probably in the USA. Yeah that's always kind of good. Don't bring shitty players the host. Everyone's still trying to Google and figure out who the fuck I am able to. Even the seven Asian doesn't make sense of how a half Filipino. Half driver ever the Asian drive a car driven everywhere. He's he's probably got drunk with the other half of the Irish. My mom was My mom brother and sister were born in the Philippines. No Shit really. Yeah broke my hockey. Yeah a little while. Just yeah he really played going up. So when you went to duluth you big recruit then you get an offers from a lot of people. Now is the only school I looked at. And you ripped out I was just got so buckled on your official visit and committed the next morning PR-. Yeah probably but no yeah. That was the only school. I didn't really know much about hockey to be honest. I wasn't so you're in a kid. I was like eight and no seriously though and then in Kind of when I was like sixteen I started playing AAA. And that's and that's when you kind of started getting noticed I just yeah I mean it was kind of a fluke. I think you know. Oh all right so four years Duluth and some really good years like I said I mean forty two points your freshman year that that was probably guessing that was the year bef-. I think we were freshmen. The same year either way. I'm guessing that was probably top five in the country for freshman. I'm sure you have no idea but you lit up for four years in the question that you never got drafted but you went right over to Finland and it's a lot of times people try playing here and when they can't make the NHL they go over there. You did it from the start. How did that all even come about and begin though? Always my agent for sure. kind of built his his agency around Like getting no-name guys really so you had like a false ski That went over Finland. He had a team right same team joker and he has tim. Thomas Villanova finished guy but then he's he's got scars should should be a fucking scout. GM now of Komen. What he he always said that? I want to scouting gig but no and that's a that's that's funny. You say that because the entire time I had them for like fourteen years in the entire time he was saying he wanted to be a GM. And I'm GONNA get this. How talented did this guy is? Now seek talent out of no offense out of a mind seven fighting. That's fucking talent bro. That's edits like come on. Man That's true discussion. We're working for the red wings back. Twenty years ago crashed his car trying to park in the parking lot but God he can skate in what you you like Utah. You guys are friends like he's a very close with him right. Yeah no I am. I don't talk to them as much now. Naturally but I'm saying at the time you leave Duluth were you not like I can't get anything over here over. Seem willing to go here. I go to Helsinki because in that time it was like to ask was in the League and a couple of other Anti Emmy these goalies were obviously attracting a lot out of style. There watching I was trying to do the whole men's league thing like I did just trying to catch someone's eye and that's Honestly I had no intentions of play. Ah Back over here like when I went there. Ten years. aalto Finland's easy to live with yourself one hundred percent and And then and it just kind of felt happen. Well when you say kind of happened I mean you let it up you go over there. In the first year you get fifty points in fifty six games in the next year you. It's sixty two almost twenty nine goals. It must've been like all right all of a sudden. All these teams are calling me. Zito's like dude people. I WANNA sign you back home. Is that kind of how it went. No not at all I know is my linemate and he went to Detroit hurt. Suffice storage vote that Oh I don't know what he's doing now. He's like a a painter buffalo money yes good for him all I can no he. Toronto was the only team really And that's why I signed with Pittsburgh was interested but Toronto at the the time just gave me like a bigger signing bonus. which but why? You're like I'm going to. The only reason I played hockey was for money. Hey Jude I see no. I'M NOT GONNA lie here but yeah so you were there to make fucking money. I don't know it's it was just in. That's kind of how it worked out but no I didn't really I sign actually back in Finland for two more years Asia. Nhl Out what. What was your first impression of pro hockey back in North America? I mean you go from playing a pretty fair schedule and all of a sudden you've got to work for your money you gotta grind through eighty game season. The American League why played I played nine games before filling right. Yeah Yeah that I was just a waste of time so mad. You didn't get to do senior spring. I talked to was like yeah. You're right and I was like we're on a team with like it was a great great team. It was like Gillies Konopka. I'm coming from college wearing like a full cage and then I'm going to these guys. Were all cannot go. It was it was. I remember first game. I was in warm ups and I forgot to guys where it is fucking bark and all warm select kill each other. I'm sitting there stretching. Like what the fuck this you know. I mean we're off and then reps on the now and I'm like dude. This is fucking brutal so I was skating off after Warrenton. Both guys Kinda and like we have Portland the one door. I'm like. Oh God like what's going to happen here in both guys were just like. Hey I'm not even tonight. The extras and more of that was like what the fuck it's GonNa August. It was just like it was a sideshow. Yeah what he's you know. PEDDER and O'Brien on that team to your. Yeah Penner was there OBI OBI was there. And they Yeah they were great though. I mean I didn't really say much followed. A couple of little stint an Indian not achieve in that moment. Just whatever I was a yes may just do whatever you say who else recruiter. Besides Minnesota Duluth but I I mean I don't know but it was legit go there. I committed right away for me. It was more like I got a full ride which I was very grateful for this. Wasn't it worked out mcgann. Yeah Fulham them again. You know so. That's cool man in you know yes. Okay so since. You're so fucking modest. That first year while the first full season in back in North America with the leafs unit played four games in the first. NHL Game I mean like okay. Now what fucking crazy store. Saudi up for is now. Who'd you talk against two? You'd one goal that you're the one goal was hitching. Yes did I couldn't talk us through your first game. Did you call up and right away awesome. No seriously I was. It was like February. My agent called me like Hey. I'm coming in for dinner. And at the time like the leafs were in your lighting up the A. Yeah and the leafs were mathematically basically out of the playoffs fucking pretty bad so we went to dinner and you still. Yeah Fuck you should have seen my preseason season I played one game in my line was me Jamal mayors and Kris newbury four minutes and then the next day. Yeah you're not ready for. I'm like wait. I got one game. I was like all right. You got the shower with the guys talking. You know whatever ever but Like fuck no but when I went to this dinner always actually kind of benching like I was like Hey am I going to get a NHL lading up h now like I should have been you know other guys. Maybe get one game like this is I never thought I came. Aim Won't get a game and then My agents I got caught up right there like within five minutes or he shot off a tax. No it's just like the game. I'm was on was right next to the the Air Canada Centre. I know you know money. WHO's a strip club? The brass rail and No it was just a someone went down and he called me up right there after like five minutes like literally in five minutes later they called either run home put a suit on come back down and I just got a door. I couldn't even get in. The Guy was like you're not fucking plane. Yeah seriously so I was like I get in in a team. Toronto one in a shootout and then we got on a flight. I went to Long Island. And that's when the guy was like you don't play for the leafs eight hundred percents fighting. He was just like you know. I'm like no I'm playing and he's like no come on how to play for the the Marley Marley style like h wise. That's got to be pretty good. I mean like oh it's a six city like you have a ton of money within their Ahl L. team. I get must've been at least like not what you're hoping for coming back but not like playing in a in a shitty age. I'll say no I was. It was awesome. Actually we had a great team MHM Bates. I think you had done here. He was my his law in North Carolina. I don't think he resonated well with our fan base first of all because we have a lot of Boston people and you knew what this podcast all out or any just like what the hell am I doing. chirpin cassidy a little bit which I mean Burnett the bad experience with them but the reason we had him on us. Because we've heard nothing but unbelievable things in the sky. Yeah he's the best and that's no he is he's just a awesome guy. Okay and that's surprising that you got well. I mean I don't know but you know like he just came on and he was just like what am I doing right now. I don't think he had ever heard of our show or anything but it was still. I got a kick out. who was the one who was the one guy that like when he when he saw you connected with well? I know you weren't up with for a while with with the leafs are just the four games who was one guy where you're like. Oh my gosh I think some cool cool I use that term very no okay. Yeah Matt Stage in with. Oh yes the best. The best guys I've ever the play. Yeah he was awesome. I can't remember. I mean it wasn't like it wasn't the best team. Why does Mitt like no no? It's not look back and think. Oh my experience. There was positive. Curtis Joseph was awesome guy. Who's always he was awesome? We're we're GONNA get him on the podcast he's use your. I mean everyone was pretty But I I know what you mean. my roommate was Anton Stroman. Who I mean Nice Guy? He's still buzzing Yeah I'm just I know. Yeah it's a great question but stage in the I. I still talk to him a little bit. Yeah so we can come back to age indefinitely. Thinks I'm cool. I don't mean to your. Let's go back. Want me to put you on. You're on your heels there. Well Yeah I mean you did a little bit. I don't know anyone that likes likes. We actually come to mind only this fucking beef jerky actually hated Phil Tongue. Remember who the first tacos was on yet Who the frescoes on? Who scored the first goal? Brian Elliott log score it Jas Jason Spas actually shot shot in for me Jason Blake's threw it at the net. And I kind of like did like Ryan Smith and then it went back door and specially like tapped it but they didn't change it no. It wasn't on my team. Is this like ten thousand nine on the legal stapleton was set awfully stance. He played you one gaming. Send Spicer however the league this year you sell it happened and I remember Jason. Blake was like did you touch data. Of course he's wondering wants fucking cookie. We'll talk about Jason La. Yeah no no. I'm not gonNA talk about. I mean what do you want to talk about. You know. I'll say I'll say Jayson break break got traded. I don't know if he signed. I got traded to the ducks signed with them. I don't know but I played with them. And then I got traded from the ducks to Edmonton and the last game of the year. The oilers were in Anaheim so all my stuff was still in Anaheim because I got traded to go that day so after the game I had already talked. OCTA Steve Tambellini and the oilers. GM's and coaches half. I was like Hey I'm just gonNA stay here and go home I gotta go back to Edmonton because all my stuff's here like the season was over. Not really many exit meetings. Things are changing so the game and we we lost to the docks. They didn't make the playoffs. Either I go out to Sharqi and Jake was on the team and he came up to me. I remember sitting at the bar. And he's like how fucking offals if you the urine Edmonton any. I was just like like to fuck off. He goes like it was just rubbing kicking a man. When he's down? I got or more years of my contract out there but but I didn't know I didn't know him that well I just remember that night. Him just like you must be so miserable. Thanks Bro just get another shot please. I'M GONNA have my own drink one. Yeah but I don't have it yet. But you know because my linemate line was him and dominic more. Oh No more and they go hated each other. Remember Jason Blake came up to me like I face dope. Pass him the PUCK now at Team K. Also that's why I asked about Jason Fucking Blake Astle. That's all that's why I asked you. Now you're the one fucking spin the roast. No no I miss it and they always had beef. You'RE GONNA pass it to be view like I don't want the puck. Listen I'll try a don't pass to the guy on the line meetings was me leading them and the the guy who they shouldn't have been passing to when I was leading charged by couldn't even get a passing like warm up three onto the one. The two on wants wants a big loop of the icicle because I want to get hit in the face. Well I'm like fast forwarding right through the career. The next year you signed with a two way with the Atlanta thrashers. It looks like it was a two year two way because you're up and down both years Atlanta spent most no one year and then you re China again and then I signed two years. Okay Tonio Oh fuck. I played in San Antonio all my stats. I'll tell you I'm looking at. I'm looking at him. H L was a joke I mean like H L. You were probably like this is this is too easy you were kind of the guy. There's a bunch of people that was too good for the H. L. But people all said you couldn't plan the perfect for Europe right. Yeah pretty well like it was almost like you were you. It was H L was too easy yet. I don't know if it was too. I mean I don't know I mean you're getting over a point the game it. It certainly was like you've got to be in your mind I I can play in the NHL dominating here but you're never going up and getting like first or second minutes right exactly. No that's I mean you guys know how it works but it was. You know the H. L. is a bunch of guys who in their mind should be the NHL so it's it's It's getting cold off. Yeah Yeah Yeah in the folic lot. H You're sitting next to a guy who's like you're sitting next to you all year and he's like yeah like talking to you but he's hoping you like blow your knee out. Don't get out of power. You know what I mean. It's like came in things like spirit loud three three assists tonight. Sure yes drink was a cool. Lee's plan in your hometown was awesome. Yeah yeah that was real. Yeah it was one of those things you know. I didn't win shit he's ever wanted. I was surrounded by losers in my whole career so the Jewish guy. I haven't won shit ever like. He doesn't even have a veteran and leave WANNA contest. Yeah oh no place in a South African African beef jerky still can't get a win. You should see me in these. But it wasn't North America and it was the only participant participant. We're just GONNA use second because he's got to be somebody better. No it's actually awesome check. Oh boy he's all right. Well then then added that. Then you get you get a chance you got one full year in the NHL in Winnipeg at a great year so what happened in signing there and playing you know three six five games. Whatever it was? Oh yeah that was after that day off for me to go back in and then might just went to Russia because we all knew there was gonna be a lockout go here. The goal is to start the campfire. Won't there's another one Russia. Think for you you. Did you know anyone over there. Nigel Dawes off offer. You're able to talk to one person. Him and I think soaps was before me so I tried to talk. Well Yeah I think I talked to soaps it was I remember I talked to Dozzi. You know he's yeah and he tells me like the worst now. Who does that Kevin is? I live dolman. And he's making oh just killing bank. Yeah so he told me all this stuff. And he's like none at the convers Aziz like everything I told you just remember. It's way worse and it was. Hey leave me. He goes everything. I'm telling you I'm promise not go. You'll go over there and won't be this bad. It's probably worse than I'm telling you just petrifying to hear but like you said you wanted that money. Would you sign for the first year over there with in in minks money talk on this. PODCAST is cool. Nobody thinks you're rubbing it in. Oh yeah why would you not even a member this million bucks. That's yeah yeah I mean so going around and once you were in Russia like was bellow was Bellarusse different or was it all the same. It was it was I. I like. It was a little bit different. Yeah it's not bad it's it's you know they're still be called Bella Russians but he spoke Like a different like a slang Russian in but I mean it was a lot of people. Come in the podcast and they say like Oh yeah it was bad bad. Do you have like in depth stories. You'd like to share. Because I I I got a call. Our fan base seems to like how crazy is it. How really wacky is it and pull the everyday stuff with knows? That's how I view I mean they're your whatever it doesn't make sense makes sense there. We'll see some great. What was the craziest experience? You saw where you're like. What the fuck is Hab? What the Faulk is like what you say like once like every two days one hour we'll see alone? Dalton I mean Henny live together we are water. Water was permanently brown the whole by like like big big water bug Joe. You know if we wanted to cook and boil book with Baltimore. Yeah Yeah this guy played with my good friend Josh Allen issues going to come on at some point in Nafta humic and when I saw you the first time there was like a wounded dog and Hennessy took a couple of stories. I hear that he reminded me of one is like do you remember number just your meltdown when they when they ended up getting rid of Hennessy because he wrote to me what you did indeed and it doesn't surprise me one bit when you just completely snapped on. Everyone went ahead and got leko what. Oh man yeah well. That's this is the text. Well well make sure make sure you ask him about his meltdown. When he got into the rink the day I got fired team? He started screaming down the hall for Trade told the video coach. The only guy spoke English to go to the head coach. Tell that fat fuck. I'm not playing one more shift in this place. I don't know if you remember as clearly as I do but I just remember laughing because I was the fired one well we had A. We ended up having like five. Coaching changes that year and we ended up getting a Russian guy. Yeah before like November. Is that a record the coaches that's not even record all seen eventually he was just like you know that fucking physio guy you don't even know who the head coach ones anymore and half the games we play because we lost coaches giving me ice after bill Burr of hockey the half the Games we lost like ten in a row and they came in there like it was. We were supposed to get paid and they're like where does not pain. You know until you win and we. We didn't vote for Shit like we beat you guys. Yeah Yeah. We were and Sexton sexton nasty there. He's really good he's still over there. Yeah yeah he's he's Turner or not paying you now paying us and then they ended ended up winning one game but they brought this ebor creaking off. This fucking guy old guy eager victim. Ah Yeah we're the bad guy. This guy was like all Soviet. You've already have a teaser on the website pre-k McKay Creek and like Fox News. Do the second day he at US running on depending on your But he had US Andrea. Oh God his surgery stories stories go back to the fuck it. Whatever Russia does and you just become fucking crazy creek dog? Stay stay on point South Africa. My fault guys advocate show four years four superleague okay. I heard that I heard that episode. Amazing that's so true because you would be like if you missed breakway as you know like a guy like would come down the bench. They're passing team. Why why no score? You're like fucking look this guy up after the game and he had like one goal and fucking twenty five years but this is the guy that's fucking yelling on and seriously couldn't it was just like you don't even who is this guy that doesn't use any shampoo or soap in the shower and the guy that said one goal in twenty five. Five years is telling me Tim. You know I'm like to see you. Celebrate your fucking assist you. You don't even know who's got the WHO shot the it's it's like who the fuck word here. Yeah it's fucking amazing. Oh you score and you turn looking for guys just celebrations everywhere. No idea so anyways back to this of rotten creak creaking. This is no joke. You would have US running ten kilometers in a snowstorm in the middle of the night and we would. We'd just no. I mean he would run together. Like you're gonNA run halfway and all of a sudden we'd come across this like like this fucking doc in jeep with his lights on in this fucking fucking creek. He's got his head out the window. This go run up to them. Make eye contact acted. Run back you to run up to them smells Russia breath and then turn around and around and he was just like he never he spoke no English Odyssey and then Dozzi had them for like five years. I think ause forty every year problem thing is when I got traded to Keenan's team which was like one psycho. Another talking awesome all the time he said shop he probably he probably went to the cage. 'cause you'd be that nutty in today's some of the best. Let's go the longer I was with you. I was in the League that year. Yeah he was he was That's right we met like in warm ups. That's how it was over there like if you saw another North America decide children no no he you you must remember you. You you got russian-ize you came over in the morning and he look into my locker room and he's like wait wait and I was saying was that stapleton like not going to be here and we went out and we just say hugged each other. How you doing man? I'm a good how you doing stuff man not good and we just shot. We shot the Shit for twenty minutes. He's now my brother for like I don't leave me. Hold on. It was a hold on. Let me get my phone. Number is plus four seven seven seven seven three seven five seven hundred sixty four seventy three five four plus sixty four and I just texted wit and then we would tax like every night. I got traded to make Mike. You're going to be here till like like April twenty eighth that you guys were nasally. Ruble crashed crashed on me. Yeah I was buying Louis Vuitton over there because I had millions back home. It was it was it was smarter by that and then maybe resell it over here. All when the when it crashed when the crash no by I didn't resell it but yeah I remember being like I'm just GonNa Antibiotics Shit now. Nice couple couple nights. Louis Travel Louis. Shit you had had to bail. Had Louis sweatpants the same fart suit recall. It was like a full sweat suit and they weren't the fucking hole ten day trip traveling at the Ritz. Like I just got my pants for too long came. I'm in with something Louis. Vitton are fucking examining new phillies up. Dude money big money. This is okay calm down talking. Jesus the Abercrombie shirts me. No the other The Russians Abercrombie and big thing air. Apostol they would. Where like Shitty American I played on some you know like like the wealthy Russian players like the really good players so these guys would like the captain of those museums and making taken the captain of Magnitogorsk Zero Poff? He had like fucking seven cars and everything you always tell me about them and finally one day I caught him coming to the ring. He comes out of the back back seat of the car so he has a permanent driver. And I'm like sitting there. I'm like how the fuck You know like how can you say this is a nice car. You don't even drive but that's the kind of guy that's the kind of the guys I was playing with the guys at spent all his fucking money So as far as Abercrombie Fitch and all that no it was always Louis Vitton adult Gabon and ship. But yeah so these guys man yeah. They're out of control. Yeah it was diff- what's okay. What's the most ridiculous amount of money saw? Russian teammates spent like a superclub with him by accident. The one guy through his we we went to like a g His Sons pre-rolled. It was his three year old birthday party. And he's he's spent forty thousand dollars like fucking like these lava funnel like ice screamed cakes. They had like fucking Alaskan dogs circus later. I'm agreeing sixty it. Don't even remember the private jets. Hey Ma drinking fly malcolm kid's birthday recently. The he hired a bunch of people to dress up as whole team like there was a crosby out there in a full penguins uniform. There was a Malcolm Guy. There was a there was gone. Char and these guys you just go over the top for the birthday sweet sixteen on asset and it was it was it was insane but he might even hired Sidney Crosby to come over for the fucking birthday party. New Year's Eve was gong long show in that country. Believe hard on New Year's Eve that's like their number one and then Putin always comes and talks. You don't remember that well and everyone stops what they're doing in and watches listened to him. I only love him the fight Amir. Let's go back to the other dictator. I Mike Keane is was he just all about head games race. I know maybe did I mean it on you know Oh fuck was brutal. But here's the thing is he. You know he growing up. He coached here right. The Early Iron Mike. It was kind of cool for me to get traded to him. I caught that well. He called me when when I got traded and he was like at my son was being born in a month and he was like the nicest guy ever and I was Kinda hung up and it was just like man. This guy's a pretty guy and I knew all about you know his whole story and it's all psychological and and then I get there and we had a day off and then I go meet them in person great guy and you know I believe in They wanted that year the year before I came cell he was like I believe that you know in trying to win back to back. You've got to change. You know about fifteen percent sunny your team or ten percent like all this whole theory. And he's like that's why we're bringing you in. I thought it was great. I was GONNA come in for like secondary scoring so where I'm going with. This is the the finally the next day after that was I I practice and I'm you know I don't really know. Anyone put my skates on. He comes bombing in and he's like well fuck stapleton he's got this voice his backs to me Stapleton. Where the fuck are you? This in front of the whole continued just the day before a phone call and I met him in person and he just I'm like you know I'm right here. And he turns around. He's just like what position are you. Yeah forward defensemen CY. I've never heard of you. You know what it was. That was what your total is like the last now. Do you think that that was planned. And he knew he was doing that. or He's just that fucking senile. I have no hi dear because I like you said it was. It was different You know there was me and him and one other North American I think so i. I don't know that's that's I still wonder that you know. And but it was pretty. You know he would. He was trying to be. I think the old Iron Mike but people don't know that you know you. Other players have flavor flavor to pray. I asked the same question themselves as personal or is it part of like the whole the whole. It took me about six weeks before I would have. I would have personally personally if I would've had to have dealt with that. And we talked with him so much in this podcast and I'm trying to figure out like what's The fucking angle because I truly I the way I truly believe that someone is that fucking evil inside where I would have went up to him and called him in the office and I would have said Hey. Do you generally no not know what position I play or you just try to fuck with me. Yeah I looked them in the is genuinely ask them and then hear his answer if he's still playing mind games that's what you say like Dude Fuck you. But here's the thing though is is he Like I knew all about this going into this right and I definitely was mine. I don't think it was. It's definitely wasn't personal as his strategy. If fucking Lockin worked I was mentally. You fucked what we worked worked in. What sense it was playing like? Everyone says like Jeremy Roenick. Oh he says like my best is worth rhythm and here. I was thirty two years now now the opposite for some guys in which a maybe he doesn't want those guys on board whereas there's some people in your situation which you say your best they fold. WHY DOES I? I don't know if I play my head for fourteen goals going up to that and then I had four with him they. He didn't play but no but I played in plays much plays much. Yeah because expand two studs and I sic but I for me was more of like I. I played really like like his heart as I could right. There was no back off considering that until I told him to go. Fuck six weeks right. Okay so I ask you a taste. It wasn't so bad I was like calling people that played form like a running board played form. And I'm like well. What do I do Mike Watt China. Watch documentaries on this shit and he was just Aw He was good at what he did is different though. When he was in Calgary torturing people it's different when you are to and some of the only English San that's evil like body over here like alone it's not like we're all in the NFL they give it to me this dying inside your in? That's so true and then eventually you call them out. So would you say story. Let's say that no because he was just He was just kind of you know doing that. A lot to me And I just. I don't know we were on the bench and one game. We're playing at Kazan. And that was the team I was used to be in and I got fired and I let like led the team in goals tonight a fire that I need to ask what that had in. We're getting smoked by them. So when he calls his lines three were lined like he. Wendy if you were center Biz and then Stapleton Appleton so he. That's what he does every time he calls and says all three all three so you know it was the beginning of the second period and he was just going bids Whitney Whitney and then I could see him like look at me and he'd be like shake his head and then you just go like Eagle or take the right side. So he's he did this for like a full period and looking at US I am not playing. Yeah Yeah and you did it for a full period and then finally he put me out there with a minute left in the puck. Just Kinda shot out a seven second shift and then he came down to me as I came off because he saw me. I was finally like faulk distant that I just never been a guy. That's been what you're enough enough though it's never really had had that problem with coaches enough was enough and he came down and saints team traded you. 'cause you're fucking pussy and finally I was just like you. You Know I. This team didn't trade me. They fired me like it wasn't a combat exactly you pussy and I saw I didn't get treated honestly I was GonNa say here's the thing I was trying to say fucking idiot but ah you know. And then he came face to face he literally goes. What'd you say and I go? I can't say anything I'm just like fucking so mad. He was tell. Tell me to go fuck myself what those tell me to go. Fuck my own event just on the bench this borrow. He's telling me to go. Fuck Myself The craziest guy was and I'm like no telling me. Look Fuck you shit. That's what I'm saying. This is Fox. This is exactly what we need is crazy guy on our shift in the third I went every other shift guys called Stapleton. Take the right time he was. I waited like fifteen eighteen minutes in the third period. Rush again junkie. One one and done it like twenty-five Tom Trying to get it on Amazon. Prime hosts now gas going every day. Oh to shave their Veneto before the game. If there was a Russian rushing gas rehabbed fucking leading meetings not for the second pair Russia gaster like Stapledon. No more the one time game. One time I used to try to. You don't really expensive. It's like three hundred bucks really yet in these guys MOSIAC and so I was on teams. We had we had a Russian gas like guy that traveled with us all gas all gas in one time. I walked in on him because we had like an option practice in trains eighteen guests and that was absolutely eleven. Eleven in the morning like I'd asked me off is recoverable gas instead of having a sip on him and most of you have a guy like fucking suffocate. You with how weird 'cause you're on your back and this guy rush you guys talk. It's like oh no so I never got at the mask I got I got gas. I didn't do too. I know my Gash was the needle though. It's still the Russian gas bro Hugh in your body with Russian gas via a needle. But I didn't get the actual you minutes of like near this breed and he was like I was I you know listen to techno crystal mets on real you know and then you get up in your speaking fluent Russian ten seconds and then you come come to and you drive home but was it with the fucking the team trainer. PUT THE PUT GAS SAYING I. I wasn't on the team. The guy that Diet I think. Yeah no no no but I walked in. I know cast guy laying sideways because I think he thought we had practice. And gassing himself SORTA God knows I swear to God. He's like sideways easily gas himself kind of knocked me fucking Tim yet gets all day body. Keep garbage finished my mouth. Yeah he who is Uh Secondhand Gas and know what what it really did I just know it was. Like an unbelievable three shortwave case. You do it pre-game no no no. It was always like either over traveled ate. He said it was for like you know if you're traveling lot game and you would notice a difference like wh at your best. He's ever smoke them off the ball. Here yeah it's getting high. I ended nothing to do with my I performances had to do with the three minutes like getting that I was in Russia. Have you ever had in Rome becoming Russia becoming a Russia. No it was Azzam making a murderer Russian. I'm like fucking Henny was always nervous of like you know you can't like bash cage with great. Listen fucking on. It was awesome. I got today and greet stories. It was great because on you brought it up. That's a that's a big time team over there. It's like Skoll Ceska Magnitogorsk Kazan. What's the other really good one? Automobiles deals with cities that our team is that On metalwork whatever. It doesn't matter because on you. It's a big deal. You go over there and and you're playing well. How did that fire down? Just get a call one day you know. Yeah that was exactly what happened. What would you found out what they didn't like about you know they? I think they just. I had a bad add playoffs and we. It was like the first time we they lost and like the first round of. I guess I'm a fucking you're a loser. Never WanNA change. I'm a mush. You guys want to go to casino after an lose news too but he yeah no and that was the thing. They had a good decent regular season and playoffs. I was awful. And then they weren't aren't really happy and then they I think they heard I was trying to like trade myself Would you were probably I was fuckers. There's and then they just got a call and they're like you're fired. I was like all right and they paid me the next day really. Yeah so I was like and then I signed enough to humic. Comic Comic. Selling point is coach called me and I knew about it. How and I'm like dude? What town fucking dump in? Swear to God this guy was like we gotTa Burger King. That was that was like we would say they give you know what I'm like really I'm in. I'm like I was going to be like a man. I love his selling point. That's how bad this town new French fries chicken like. OJ's advantage every time time you show up we're GONNA give you the cardboard crown. Yeah Yeah you are going to get a car for Graf finished guy trying so hard to like sell me where he was and I knew. Whoa I'm like dude? You can't. It's not that bad like you could tell him. His voice fell onto his hat. All you say it's pretty good Burger King. It's okay what about the other. The other thing has he's had waterboarded fucking burke he's Ah the guys back to red dots on us. We have Internet on enough to so every every cage. I'll point matters right. You know these games. Are You get win bonuses over you WANNA game fucking making money so neff Hema goes to a shoot out. This guy IBM one of the most skilled players on all the teams he played on. The coach says go ahead in the shootout. NOPE guy goes no turns around goes eight schouten and so the first two guys go and coast. Please Tim shoot please. And you ended up Hennessey said you ended up going faulk fine. You went down and buried at low blocker for the game winner. But why the hell would you saying no originally That's probably that's a true story. I don't know I mean it was my third year in Russia. I didn't know what the fuck too much rushing gas do. I don't that's just how I know. Yes and doesn't know why creaking off story. The reason I got traded on that is because I always buy the tenth game with him The same thing happened. Third period came in every time. My Line we came set. I told I was like Max go in so like after like fucking shifts. They fuck in like they realized I was basically not playing anymore and then I got on the plane on my agent call music off has seen some crazy shit but he's never seen someone benched him like I'm like I don't know well like I I to me to cut him. Yeah he's crazy overdosing on our gas I was I I was. I was actually kind of hurt. I was hurt and I was like Even they didn't believe him. So yeah that's like the story though how this we we went on they said we went on strike. You Know Oh yeah that made like the Washington. Hope the House that this whole story character while it's basically kind of Forgotten what we kinda just goes. It was after that because I was just The next Virginia growing yeah it was yeah. That's the thing it wasn't like I was like you couldn't have subdued him fucking brutal out here like I don't even WanNa play. You know what I mean. I don't like I just can't play in this guy would like didn't believe me and so the next game I finally called. I told my agent. I'm like listen. I had the bench myself like fucking they. Don't you know just so. They let me sit out that game and then sexton had a concussion from the you know. He said out they gave him. The import goalie was running around the rink from finished any like sprained his ankle so we had three guys and this was like literally when the ruble crashed so they thought we ruble crashed. I imports are playing and it came out that we were on strike a storm right. Getting them My agent called me in the Mornings Aka like like everyone takes you went on strike. You have to play tonight and we were in fucking dude. My my groin in this. We're in Novokuznetsk. You ever. Yeah we talked about. It was only. Oh yeah you know you see soaps. Now I'm kid logged laugh at that but died in the made me do an MRI. And at this fucking I. Can't they put me on a and like the movie kickboxer with Van Damme. No he gets his back broken fucking carrying out on this piece of wood and parking lot. MRI goes back to color by. Aw No this view mass they put me on this. Bright light dislike wooden board and they faulk and threw me in the sting and it was just like in the squeezing. I like it and you and you and discomfort to squeeze this. I'm squeezing this thing like within tons. Nobody coming in. You know what I was going like. We didn't do. It lasted four minutes. Because I can't fucking do this. You know so they fuck it we get to the rink and I just get there in time for practice. Now Give Creek in off like this thing he's GonNa read an MRI right. I know it I know no tear and I had distinguish a four minute. You know whatever. He's doing the things that the coach he not injured. Wait a minute thank you know so then I played. I go. Medical School to play story gets even crazier Razer Site Blade and then I ended up scoring two game winning goal so then we came back and we finished that road trip against own over. Because that's sorry some. Yeah we're getting Fifty percent the next day we had a day off but we never had days off. It was like you had to come and take a sauna or play soccer some gas so we we can't. We came to the rank and in the coach gave this Vakhin speech. And he's like I'm hearing my name like every five that it has a built-in stigler I'm sitting never good. But I'm kind of I took it as like okay. He's publicly. Why can't you stay? Battled for injuries for a couple of four yard jerod. MRI and I scored all on my head. I'm like okay. You know like I'll take the yeah in in in Yeah so the Shit and then the team you know after the meeting ended The team went and worked out and they took me downstairs and they did. He's like bike. Sprints like I'm in this Dungeon Younis bike. My mind was like they. I'm just doing a separate workout so I'm down in the assistant assistant coach. He's like just screaming at me and I'm like okay. Our guard like this such a fake work and then I I got done and I'm just down there and then like another player showed up and I'm just I myself and he's sitting there and he's biking you know by himself and I'm like what are you doing. He's like opposite cubs Aquino fake and a coffee. Whatever they do and he looks at me? He's like how do you feel. He was Russian guy. And I'm like what do you mean he's about with Creek enough said and I'm like I feel that was getting Russian. Raleigh dodger to you didn't know figuring I'm going to be getting the captaincy. Here's you know. And he's like well he said that You fake injury your find a thousand dollars and you're no longer part part of the team and then that's what they're punishing me and yeah fuck. Yeah in the game four-game Winter. Yeah and then I. That's the nets. Yeah and then I went nuts. You know but yeah I called my agents and giving the Fuck Outta here just creating off guys still coach. I have no idea. Here's here's what I'm GONNA do. I'M GONNA say say this on behalf of you is creek and off because I would imagine this is going to somehow get to them because we have Russian reporters that do listen to our podcast is this is the type of Shit we're talking about when we bash Ashrawi Russia. So what what what your what your boy opted to stapleton is fucking bullshit. And then he'd lied about him and then challenges character so on behalf of the spitting shekels rickles podcast. Mr Creek in off can lick my talk. Come on I don't know I don't fucking talking. I ran with like a stop. Watch in. He would like his theory was like so we would do like a two on one hundred twenty five. This guy wouldn't like run the practice he would just say. Go to this show talking to people like texting on the phone and we would like do a two on one for thirty minutes. I was just real old school old old school. I remember More more on he does nothing about the game. He's a fucking drill sergeant He's had pretty good teams like pretty good record. y'All you brought up something so funny and I remember. There was a meeting where he the. My Russian coach is like Whitney Whitney. And he said it four times. Same thing you're like. I think this is good. I'm playing okay. I don't know and then I remember. He walked the room and all the rushing yards ball. What what I remember? One kid was walkabout. He goes nor nor Gert knocker. Uh told me he said you're soft you play like shit. I was like fuck. Yeah I'll tell you even like the players would do that too. Sometimes you just get like a five guys is in the corner where the fuck is going to say you're sitting alone in the cafeteria Bauza. Oh because on on was I was gonNA say that about. Yeah we explain it where it again. We've expanded the night before games. You gotta go and they consider it like you with the team and you're basically in like rl Stein barracks the dorm dorms. Kind of RB. Sending one in NAFTA HUMIC was straight up like barracks bowl but the one in Kazan. His on was actually like yeah but it was put it was the weird thing is all the team. The whole team lived in the dislike. Gated like security thing and they had a A where apartments were and the they had Basel still in this thing where we had to check in the night before game stay and it was literally like ten yards away. They wouldn't let they con- They didn't let you sleep with your family or anything in just one day and they hit security everywhere. I remember one time I came home at like three. Am with like a bag of McDonald's all fucked up in the next day. I thought it was well. This is different city. And then the next day They called me in and they're like you can't be come in in with McDonald's at three Am. And I'm like didn't and they showed me the video. You Holy Fuck places why Donald Holy Shit I looked at it. I couldn't even get my Jay Z's. AJ spiezio POPs L. A. Corner Fucker now due to a ten mile run. Oh my God well. So when. Russia ended Switzerland. Switzerland's 'cause back we were together I know you went back. He's sick we. When we were together I remember I remember dinner with you in Sochi and we were like two guys get to Switzerland? Switzerland's like Andy Do Frayne leaving Shawshank when you're like forty game rich beautiful country like and then you ended up getting and to pull that one off. Where'd you end up going Swiss? I went to bill which is good bought. The Switzerland Switzerland's awesome. My son was born. You know and that's why I didn't. That's why I went to Switzerland like it wasn't I I still would have played. We maybe in your good doe and Swiss now. I was terrible that that was actually terrible. Like I was traded to Lugano. Hennessy was to a little bit but to swiftly Ivy League was different every league was like what the fuck you know when especially when it came to hockey like no one thought I mean they. Everyone just made it so hard. Like in Switzerland Team I was on the Guy Played Man on man on Olympic sheet. Yeah so you would be like in the zone just like I got my guy so guy with like if the guy fell down breakaway he had a break from like the half. You know what I mean. And then everyone's everyone's got my guy the guy and then they would do video on them like staves guy and. I'm like it's called support fucking. There's another way the other the other guys are in the Corner Wall. Your guy that didn't matter and when I felt you know so it's it's it was just different different everywhere Yeah what was the best. I obviously wasn't Russia. I you will say Joe Germany. We didn't get to that. What was the best European country? He played like if you had go back and play him. One more. European Lugano Swollen. Helsinki was awesome. Yeah sick he's a great. He was awesome. You know I heard they're the of the heavy metal. Their iron maiden fans big heavy metal listened to embrace the culture. And all those lives. Newt Gingrich and Helsinki Hanky or God. Oh Yeah Yeah and that was easy because everyone spoke no but if you wish they would just like WanNa they WanNa talk to you in your white for me. You're in Asia Outta here in Munoz. Bean Stapleton really really had much of an anger like in my career. You know but but when someone would call me you fucking little JAP Japanese Chinese. I would get so. I'm not fucking the Japanese like that's what I would get like most men because no one ever knows what I am. I am Filipino. Irish ten Russian and because of all the gas. Yeah so I have Safai Switzerland Sweden or my reason outlive rights. Yea I went to Sweden. Are you were such a frigging case at the end nude in four ears. Yeah you may be right. Maybe coming in because he's actually a good guy. I would buy appear at the bar at a charity event. He's not he's put. I'm obsessed with the fact that how can you turn it on and being such a fucking asshole in the head. I mean at work art. I mean he was a successful. I'm not always successful. was though bet. They didn't win actually told me one of the best story. He said that early in the nineties they brought fuck in and this is like example Zampa. He guys would yell back at them right like the old school guys but he. They brought like the Hawks to Charity our training camp thing in like Bam for some. I don't know if you guys heard the story to get away. Yeah it was the ski resort and Keenan's like I'm giving this fucking speech to everyone. People brought their wives and girlfriends. And you know I've got my wife and I'm like there's one fuck enroll enroll no fucking skiing. I want anyone getting hurt doubted uh so euphemism actual skin all right. Listen I already does Woah over. You grew up skiing Keenan's lake so after we practice he's like so me and my wife goes skiing and we're like strolling down the Ski Hill and he said all of a sudden two guys want any Saigal bomb by me Ski Poles. Lay there fucking downhill racing jeans on fuck fuck you telling Roenick up. That's that's like so that's how how long it that's how it was back in the day. So that's why his method was. That was his math. Do when you yell at these fucking Russian guys. It was comedy guys cared aired. These Russian guys would come look just like in Kenya would be like Max you fucking pussy like fuck it you know and then actually just sitting there like arm hanging like Kida will walk out. Maximum Tim what he say. Keep going man who out there Max. You're buzzed the media rushing coach back. That's why he said well because he would just yell sleeping. He thought he was pumping him up. And he's Tony Robbins. Tony Office eight eight thousand this past these. These are well these guys but I know that's why that's what I didn't understand that time so it was like no one's like this. This isn't going to work so stop yelling at me and be. That is so fun man. He's fucking DOC ID that shelly. Roenick story as fucking and maybe. I'm quoting it wrong. So don't buy off thought we don't give a shit it's real now real real. It's real that's rear as feathers on that Israel is feathers on a squirrel so Jianfeng so highly polo bows hilarious. Hire you in the back in fucking fucking Russia though like play money not actually held hostage. He said No. I need the gas. I always played going through gas withdrawals withdrawals and plug. No but I I didn't I don't know I just wasn't what I was. Sweden was tough for me Great country but they fuck in. I just went during played like third line and in you know at that time I was like I should be playing powerplayer something you know you WanNa play. You think you're right I it's not yet in my career and kind of mentality and I figured like we'll fuck if I'm GONNA hate playing in Russia it do. I actually liked Russia when you're sick. Oh Deep Down I. I went to Moscow. Oh awesome that'll work. That was awesome we had. Ah Gilroy was on the team Spartak. Yeah no way go yet. Your was hey money over there. Twenty Games things like fucking you talk about like your teammates is looking at you hated you. Yeah I mean they probably did. But the the artists like couldn't believe how bad hockey earning his gas you. You don't know so then. The last year just ended up in Germany. And then I was starting to the Swiss second-league. Yeah how and they wanted. They were mad and I was leading the team in scoring in league with imports of three points. A game like that's what they average likes and then some of these guys and they figure out how to play that kind of hockey like I wasn't fucking scrap in all over the map. Well it's just like it's like you. If you have any one on one skill like you can dominy. Because it's like you know it's the secondly throws it wasn't bad guys can skate well and stuff but it was just I like a lot of my good years. If you want to say that it was I had really good lines. I mean it's not like it's never a one on one. You know so over there. They were like expected me. To like dangle or dude I need some linemates I'm like you know exactly and then I went to Germany my old old coach from my very first year in Finland with coach Germany. And he's like I'll put you on the power plant on knows a good way to end. He's got one of those Globes in his house where he puts a needle every place. He's he's been. You can't even see any water. I'm maps he got into business in South Africa but it hasn't been there no the businesses. Here it's just the South African Let's go back to that bill tongues you're dealing with these DOT com. Yeah you want me to do he. Wa S yeah. I beat nobile. K. E. Y.. Spike's chilly built long. Bill Tung Biltong tender slices. The air dried beef. Thirty Ramsey rams a protein in the USA US inspected and passed by the Department of Agriculture. That's a phantom definitely fucking. They mistake first of all stacey. You're telling me there's less sugar and that shit than there isn't like another types of no sugar in this zero zero grams of sugar zero. What's the most negative sodium? Okay what's the the negative aspect. OC half the amount of sodium stops like off the wall like healthy. No we didn't know that until I can kill Wiki my wife. My Wife's like hell like wait a minute. This is hell when you sent that. She looked through it. She's like. Wow the stuff's actually really good for you because if you grab some of the like the beef Jerky and gas station you know you. You started this or your body to tell them we can get talks with some slip-ups Biz twenty this. I just WanNa tell one store go. This might when people talk brought to you by the story. This is the ATTA boy. Go for it in. This is my favorite Russian story. And it's not like you know you guys talk about every day to day stuff right So in Minsk. There's a import player. Kevin Lalande Goalie. goalies he was there for like five years and I don't know if you know like does he like when you play in these countries for a certain amount of you know years they offer they'll offer you'll pass. Laws can play for like the Catholic stand Olympic team. So Belt Minsk was doing that and So Kevin had a bell roots PAP passport Canadian passport at the time. And you know the first month we give their he gets his apartment and he's got this like decent apartment pain like fucking almost four thousand a month which is a lot there and he's paid in cash to the landlord and the landlord. The first month he paid the landlord came over. We met him. He came with his wife. Nice couple and and You know a few months go by. And as the seasons go by Kevin's all his son and got this thing going on where he thinks. There's a ghost in his apartment. He's like dude is fucking goes to my apartment right right and I'm like we're laughing about says that you don't believe distinct being moved. There's like this and I'm like well dude. We are fucking Bellarusse. Whatever so January it comes around? We go on this road trip and we went to Finland in Prague a team and then we're going in the Russian. Kevin forgot his Canadian passport. So like two days in this trip. He's like fuck. I can't go to Russia. So the team had to fly him back so he comes back and he gets in at like two. AM and in Minsk. And he's only he's got to get back on a flight and like four hours so he gets to his apartment and you put the key in and he's going to open the door and it won't open he's like fuck he's like. Yeah I'm at the twenty three and here's a dog and he's like what the fuck so inning realize doors bolted from the inside. He's like what the fuck she says pounding on this thing. Do the door opens in this guy opens the door. And he's he's got like Judas Boxers no-shirt on it's the fucking Web Lord the swearing. I swear to God I was gone. He was going to move the family. Swear to God charging this guy like four grand a month and then we'd go on these ten day road trips and he would move. His Kevin came into the kids sleeping on the couch. Disguise is there the wife's in his bed they got the family. So what did he do. He said he nothing eventually. That stop you sit at the time. He's like I couldn't process what was going on. I was just like we gotta talk about this later. I need three hours of sleep. So He's like I'm walking to my room and the guys like Kevin. Can you use the spare bedroom. My wife's in the and then the best part about it was the Kevin was like every month. They always ask me about a cleaning lady and it was always right before we went on the road so they were also charging wanted to gain to know for after get cleaned. Kevin had the paper and all fucking doubly status Dan. Yeah not like the funniest story but it's just like talking. Yeah that for me. It's more like say that's fucking Russia Russia. That's a great way to end states. That was awesome. Thank you so much for having the dinner until we can't tell on here unfortunately eight. Thanks for dinner steps again up Timmy Stapleton listen. I believe he's meeting as down in Dallas off the All Star game so he'll be joining forces with once again for some quality content. In the meantime I wanNA talk to you for a second about Jeremy Roenick. Jay is charity. Challenge it's going to be going on during the New Year's Day what the Classic in Dallas so go to. WWW dot J.. I charity challenge dot com to play against Joie the chickens guys. NHL Grades and other sports is live as the predators. Take on sties playing win for a chance to win. Tickets to the skills competition and all star game while meeting up with JR in Saint Louis go to social media during the game in college. Ai Business de Witt myself and others when you hire on higher than them on the leaderboard leaderboard. Jay is charity. Challenge a new way to test your hockey skills and knowledge against the celebrity leaderboard by predicting who will control. Only who'll control the opening faceoff get the first penalty. The have more shots on goal if the game go to overtime the J I charity challenge benefits. Juju Smith Schuster foundation. That is dedicated to the support of youth initiatives and and lifting the spirits of those in need Next up we had a few guys at once on this one back in January. The Vegas Golden Knights came in the headquarters of Ryan Reeves mckendry flurry and come in and we had a blast man. It was a free at once. You never really did an interview like that but everything went pretty smooth so we got some good stuff. So we're going to send it to the Vegas Golden Nights Right now. We are now used to be joined by a couple absolute stallions from the Vegas Golden Knights in New York City to play the islanders. And there's the devils. The Rangers with a couple nights off in between Nate Schmidt. Marc Andre Fleury and Ryan Reeves. Thanks for joining us. Valez extra having a sports. Which Claude Claude did you go to last night? Sorry discover you guys allies away from my wife kidding tonight. Christ we just went we. GSP right have you. You have met him before I talked to a little bit. So giddy man smiling from ear excited to see you couldn't believe looking at that guy like that guy's reeves just towers over him but he would probably like I see these guys in the bars like I'd bang you all and then and then you run into sleeping crazy. I just can't believe that the cooling coming in this office I mean. I've been here four times now. You run into people. Sometimes last we walked in yesterday in basketball almost hit me in the head was the Harlem globetrotters charters. I stay here. Ricky Williams here was he. Eric you will come on title coyotes not a big deal. So guys ACTUALLY SH SH media. I'll ask you first. I'll ask you first speaking of drugs. The pensions later career in the two of us are say we had your back on here. We it was like he says to read a statement less than anyone who says he wrong but we actually talked one Quickly about you went over to Europe. Yeah so what. What was that like? Where'd you go over there? I went to Vienna Braxton the Vienna capitals there that's an Austria for our audience because in Austria agents we just recalling around the guys now Matt Yeah Medicaid or yeah we were just calling around trying to find somewhere and land on a beautiful city. Lot finally got to go London with the team to the Swiss Alps went to Zurich Rick. I travel way. Might as well make the best plan the Isla uh-huh perfect say Walker and then and then cap it off with a nice ticket while he's it's just crazy rich wrench power so flower. I robbed the bank. Yeah yeah two years attention but but four million how much five five. Thank you Thanks for diamond by himself in new permits and they'll get work in this year. You got sick. People say you're online on these guys. Obviously you don't check our hockey DB six goal. You close your eyes shoot blow more often. It's nice the Alpha and the League. Now thank you are like who the Fuck GonNa fight you. You know. I've tried. I've tried a couple of times with no. I don't think that's really his game though. Just Moesha Shaw lately. He's more also about Austria we Practice get bags gate every day. Eh finished coach. He would come out with no stick no gloves and just put his hands minds back into skate. Up and down. The ice hung over fifteen laps started pre game skate for them. One day I got. I got back to the bench. Look up in the stands at GM. Aware I'M GONNA be the best shape of my life go back. They're not going to believe I came back. It wasn't doing anything in Austria every day. Go on and do some around the cities. It was awesome. Good team there a lot of good guys. I got to know her. There was something that you never once selected experience unfortunately San just taking the euro. I remember saying I was in Pittsburgh. Play go man. Imagine going to Europe next seen on the way to Russia. Taping your paychecks. What's all oh you're flooding? My flight leaves tomorrow. I said never do this. Get me traded flower naked when you came back. Did you better shape going to Europe. Then you would have been if you've been playing in the National Malaki League. Yeah no shit well living in Vegas has its perks. Now we came back and I I was. I was bags game every day. Five six times a day or five times a week but I guess that they take their scathing a little bit more seriously like they skate and skate eight and stayed. What was it like a train with his team hanging out with all the time and then the game coming you just saw eat popcorn the press box? They go on the road so I went on the road with them. One game it's it's terrible the GM and I flew this place and the rest of the team bus. Pass Guy Shelby Sir. Nice meals. We like nine hundred bus right on from Zurich and the flying back and beat the guys back act there the ring and the next four seven hundred dogs yeah. He's changing topics. So you guys had a bit of a shaky start to see if you guys could just stop laughing and let me ask my serious question. For Fuxing Journalist Journal had a bit of a rough start this season. You guys have been by lately though. Let's talk about the turnaround. We'll hang over from Australia. Boys low too much partying excess. Continue with I. I've I'm not talking about this for bus- get yeah. Let us down to work. Yeah I mean what the fuck very strong correlation to when you start playing Adolfo Obviously a big part of a team right. It does so much for us and on and off the ice always as they smiled and positive attitude and talk and always talking on. The ice obviously is doing great. All right we want we talk a lot about pranks flour. How bad is it with him still? Is he still. He's been pretty pretty quiet pretty tame. Since I've been here I got lazy. I think what we said the other day. That that the prankings dangerous. Because once you're in you're always watching your back tires. You Got Tired of twelve years pranking. People I got somebody built today. Would you get. What was it SNITCHING on yourself. Yeah we knows it was to say anything. You're finishing the story Shit I never said I did it actually but uh-huh pr so he walks beside me taps miller shoulder and I look and he walks on the other side Shit so then Richard Richard Greatest So we went to beg. I read Neil telegraphist. Kazuki runs his room. So I called For wakeup call at five in the morning. Then put the phone under the bed and then turn to eat up up. Quick and then I don't know twickenham toilet when you Take that OWL's sort sprays you take when when you flash comes back into too you can pull out and then you put on the site take cover up. Put It on the side and you put a cover on it so you could. You wouldn't be able to notice the bath. Yeah very subtle. Shush keeps throwing never stops because it does it get filled up fate so it just room was eighty eighty seventy degrees. His wakeup call reached under the bed and his toilet buried them in the face. Yeah imagine you ask someone actually actually ty it does as Tabasco sauce. And someone's to. Yeah Yeah Years in Montana. Season preseason owner took us up to his ranch Is it yellow is it one of those what is called. It's called Rock Creek. You're thinking about what are the Discovery Properties Kevin Costner. TV show. Aw Yeah where rich people have sick rockers. Walk that's unreal farmer when shoo. Check my dad freshman shoes for the Dach- these things down at Johnson Johnson Surrey's putting like border all over the total endlessly in December. Two one time yet. A new shoe. Oh Man of ever that was like what the excuse that one's been brought up a bunch of surreal. Do Think I think what the hell small state war right there. That's war. It took that one family take him for a week. Did you. Nail Bugs Assumes Mrs Lockwood all in all we nailed tanger stash. I was saying yes it we torture tank and then I said okay. This kid's going to be unreal. I think I have to stop messing with them and then got traded because he was so good. No it's just like this kid got the last laugh. Three rain is behind the the French guy whitten. We're a budweiser candidate podcast. But I wanted to ask you vote. You got a brewery kind of. I got a beer. Come here a couple beers start start small. Yes eventually have a brewing company. Seven five ruin company. Okay where the Promo Code or I saw this just just a couple of cases resell it. Okay I'll get you to sign them and all the resell of course got you. Where seventy pigeon that's what they gave me trading to stuck with it contagious called up seventy five in the pit the next year but I played half a season song? One thing. We didn't ask you about last time here on the Paul and I can't believe we forgot. It was more hit story on back to back one point right now. He's lost some weight. I I know a great deal. You really looks like he's been running chirping them a little bit by is closer begging off lillies. He's doing good. He actually so you in Austria trainer which unrealized. That's why I didn't have a job for the first twenty games it's asked him. You may pop pop up on that test super talk. Tell us your favorite story weary of doing it now. Because he's back coaching little bit. Yeah because so you never know he just pops up everywhere could play a line master David and just really fuck you minus ten embarrassed revolver. The day stole my soul. Our Whole Otter lappy. Oh man he so we just score. He throws a so the center. Ice Draw in New York. They throw nashes line dropped yet. You can just see starts boiling. Oiling calls a timeout center Ice Skate over the bench. I don't like that fucking match. UPS Burns our only time out in the third period. You should have seen the boy who looks like Oh buried. I'm I couldn't just skate older. Change you know what I'm just drawn. Dump the PUCK. And that's all I do. Yeah I was calling for me like I if it was a diesel draw. Let's say we're in Chicago and I got out there against like teasing Cain. Like tip was like dude I don't care to sprint out of his own gets get to the bench will go five hundred fuck off. Kills the confidence. Though revolt they hit you had on Tom. John Wilson little companies. You Go to surprise you got tossed from the game for that a little bit. I mean we thought so. Shall we talk now. Two minutes it would have been suitable interference. He's looking at his past. You know what I mean. I think he said it best last year. He shouldn't have been watching this past and I was just finishing my head did the same thing to Marci last year. And there's also like there's a lot of there was a lot of. I wouldn't say like a backstory Youtube. But you're like dude. I want to get this guy. Got Some history. It's no secret we don't like each other. I Hate Adam. I'm sure he hates me. You know we play the same kind of style and no one nothing. So now we're never GONNA get capitals. Ought to play peacemaker over here. Come on say one. Nothing what I don't WanNA fight. You know you'd ask them. We fought over but like it seems like now like early in the playoffs. He didn't want to last year in the fine. No I think as well as he wanted to. He's he's a good player. He's a tough kid and it's tough to see them hurt like that. You don't want to see anybody a hurt like that but I fucking hate the guy so what we're paid to hate each other and play the same role as you and man there was. Some guys is an could stand when I play but like all its. That's just the nature of the beast and the paychecks are nicer than the friendships. When it's all said and done like I said I love Willie I love you and I'm sure if you guys ever met after your careers and how to be or you guys would? I'm I'm sure because I fucking hated you. After after a little soup we're friends off. That was a prime example. No reason I did those because I knew fast forward. Five six years Grenell was going to put the video. We're going to get some content hits but prime example is we fucking hate each other and then the minute we got the training gap in Saint. Louis adjusters we're over. You guys are over my house. First Day Yeah Nice big picture up there. Do you think you'll ever you like. Could you love to get an adult any juggle fight. Something I've Since I was junior I fought twice right. I wrote my knuckle low. So the coach wasn't that people that but then I was like always wanted to score a goal and maybe ever fight you you know and any chance to go on an empty net. I missed a few. Maybe you'd learn preseason calls but you muffin they'll be like getting a hole in one when you hit your first one in the water. It's actually a three. Oh you don't want to go out is a math guy. Want unbelievable par back in the clubhouse and telling you get an award by people drinks mankind the planet Vegas. I mean that's got to be crazy. It's the most unique city in North America. How long does it take for that novelty to wear off like okay? There's the strip in this fake statue liberty every day like what does is that. Just become another part of the senior. We we don't go down the Strip as much as you think You know living on several and there's a lot to do out. There was a lot of restaurants so you don't have to you. Don't feel like you have to buzz down the strip just to get something done so Yeah the walking out again after start. Give give yourself a feeling when you land right on the Strip you get that every time you land couple minutes. They're starting march murky had outreach. And they put all the cocktail servers on the class. The whole game of the Boehner owner between the second the third year. Like it's fucking Kentucky table tonight out every day almost every week do it's on your body's going going back to help where you live from the same area. Yeah that's Yeah suburbs like. I mean. There's a golf you can hike and you pretty much endings. Lotta shopping's out there. Everyone lives out. There are the celebrities you guys have met it around a lot. minimum speeds to The SP Andrea a lot of fun. The is yeah. Yeah kind of blow you like hone fog. We didn't meet too many people actually. I'm a big baseball. Gas does not a big celebrity guy. No colleague whatever dude was up from. Ah I surprised by the like the reception last year because they never had a sports team in Vegas. I mean everyone always always said the. There'll be a good team. They'll be towel for a team but we never saw it and they will. I mean it was crazy. How much they took you guys ended up? was that surprising to deficit. Nobody knew what to expect. Raritan mushroom start from tarring kept on door in our practices. Were pretty busy and games. People made it the best Serena to plan you. You know it's always sold out and it still is and So yes It's hard to plan the Times saw. aww Showing Brooklyn out of the crowd wasn't there because of the lights turned off on all night crazy Z.. I feel like Vegas though I mean. I don't think that's ever going to slow down either like I. They're they're now they have. I protein even when football comes like. I think they're now die. Hard nights vince because of the one year they got to the finals. We'll forever keep people have all helps that the team was built in Vegas to where Oakland Oakland's come into Vegas. That's true. And that's tougher year Raiders Fan. I'm a big Fan. Huge ought not perfect. It's perfect I mean I'm Gonna I'm GonNa be at the Games all the time as long as I'm still here charging Jerry Rice followed him. I was forty nine span. You into the raiders pardue Seattle so stuck with the raiders in your old man putting the CFL correct shift. NFL NFL NFL. where Washington Green Bay? Miami didn't play a lot though. Couple offi everywhere. Yeah maybe half a cup positioning running back the VP Daddy. Hey can you explain to people listening. That don't know the fell. Can you really get a point by putting it through the end. The worst in the history of sports stupid. I know there's a lot of Weirdos it's crazy don't bash the craziest Spanish I'm GonNa tell you to see if l.. Because at one point there was sixteen in two of the same name the rough riders. Yeah that's nice. It took me original six. We got the New York Rangers. We got the Boston Rangers L.. But guys expect to be back on the Stanley Cup finals year. What are the experts that know? Yeah for sure guys Schedule like getting good road trips as one of your best coming East we're staying. We're staying at the same hotel. The whole attraction the best. Yeah it's a nice touch. What about all star break this year any plans yet? Look at the game. Back from all star Break Tampa floor Florida than Tampa right back. Yeah right back into three days in between Florida and Tampa the case during all survey if floor when he come back man who who's the prankster in the locker other than flour. Neither who's the clown frighten me really your your gesture. Every day getting going is the dig mouth. Yes I'm loud. Yeah MARCI concern. Nobody's really shot up. He could be outside like down the street and you really do you guys give him heat when he pulled up in. The Golden Knights like Lamborghini like research certain team logos on the car. You're what does he make six million. I thought that was his uh-huh what's wrong with also every drove around big old trucks in Edmonton. What their name and number in? They gave it to him. Gave kept giving him for game days. They just drop it off at his house and he's loud. He's allowed guy just a friendship power. Always put us all. Listen basket. March is the sensitive French. He's this soms different. WHO's the guy who's always going on dates and stuff is tired? Talks pretty active. Single guys talk. He's only single. Yeah I heard I heard. He does himself Guy Easy Osei before even like I'm GonNa give me him okay. He's actually not oh bad he went to do I go walking. Imagine Bugsy of when they leases aces he ripped up Pittsburgh like Vegas. Yeah we give of it to him on. This park came on one time and he was like the biggest nerd. He's like yeah. He's trying to make. The Olympic team is coming back with the Minnesota Wild. Yeah you know working hard I was like bugsy what are you talking to me like a normal comeback before the before the year last year. The guys know that wild bill is not good. Oh yeah that gets. He's a nice player. Nice Bass player defensively the two. She comes back every good all around. Why didn't I never heard of them? To be honest. I never heard of have a big paying attention. You don't know I know. I know who I had to fight What do you watch you watch shows movies? Yeah a lot of lot of net flicks watch lot. NFL what's your number one. Show right now on Netflix chapel season. Three's fire good absolutely i. I'm pretty down with that ozark. I don't watch started that yet. I I you know slow moving though this starts I like breaking bad. You're like okay come on. Let's get going here. Yeah to compare. I've verdict comparison break and Babbitt. It's nowhere embrace them. Touches break talk about succession revolt early. HBO Great Show. It's about this is like gazillion. AM media own family trying to line up to sheet. SOC- who's going to take over the company after but it's like it's like seems like drama but Israeli like a black comedy. It's called succession. HBO CHECK IT Out. I'm telling you you'll like comedy. Let's talk Hey guys guys'll cards on the plane card card just show I play. What do you watch Holkar? Turnout told us out on the other part flower. You never play cards. It's no shows in video game prize revolt. We play dice on the. What do you want to bring a bucket of chicken for pre-game I I can talk to you about a block dot com seriously want? He's been black. Comedy is the roof and we walk out of here. You guys are GonNa stay in the room after. Do we all walk out. You see what happens. Is he still there. Revolt black comedy to Senator Dole has mental. I know we always say go crazy. Stop is an eighty percent methyl ninety percent. It just seems like has guys have a great year then they might have off yet then they just just like scenery focused and I think it's just you know sometimes you you play lots sick or tired and you still in that inched up a game and and also I don't know it's number but pretty mantle sitting there rubbing the post last the bar to look back and I'm like Oh my God. Thank God that didn't go in. Houston they're talking love. You Make Netscape by music. Thank you for me. Thank you never saw the story with the. I'm a bad bad man video. That was pretty unpopular on my wife roasted you right. Didn't she always ask. I WanNa hear this too. I don't know he didn't say I just saw PR. Argh guys he said you see that McGregor video and So I want you to do on. Figured it was going to be a a big hit. He knows what he's doing. Those figures take the sherlock show some locker room. Take those bands you got to sell the game and putting this body on I everytime showed I don't either bugging out. This guy is watching the interviews. Guys guys guys Wigan excited I think one time I was at NHL Network and you did one of those interviews we have you guys look at the big screen and all those who I don't who it was there like nate Schmitz bogging over the point so like no. It just looks like he's lost as I the crank on post game convenes in your four hundred pop puck gets pulling back the cord every go back. Every every time I walked into the room to angle dare gangland always gives it to me. He's like man couple couple more fellow last night. Ah Ah what like really killed killed me when we went to the SBA. And I was like it was kind of longer I had one of the interns shaved my head just pulled the thing right back got worse butters from South Park. Do you tweet pictures out of me all the time. My hair is longer right now. We actually have a pill for that. Takes care of him. Twenty one of them an helps grow. Grow Your Deck Addict Bill and it helps with your hair. Sounds like Sounds like something pop. Sixty games the. The next season returned back in his cage. All of a sudden that's all they have. It's not frowned upon. Yes it doesn't they'll be like. Hey your hair needs and you thank you out has banned is on the banned list. Well how do you know that Wolkanczik Block. You want that extra half and sometimes going on W. after Saturday win these gets on road trips and have waters and everything is just like all right sal. Perfect go all right. I don't need any water because I won't be playing anytime hair GEL. Comb uh-huh clean road trips too much right. Yeah thank you all right right. That's all right. You WanNa talk about selling anything. I'm audited Flynn the game. You know. WanNa play. I don't know man. I sound like three more years. And we'll see yeah. It's not even not even thought. Yeah if you start to go. I don't know I started thinking about it. Guys see you guys got to start thinking about my career right. What's going to happen and stuff uh-huh please don't retire preschool for three time off the last year and this is this year five five? Alex I like yeah. We appreciate this very much nasal so road trip for you guys and we're GONNA come out to Vegas. I'm still scared. From when they played my prediction that you guys are terrible at predicting thanks to wrong. Control said the last time he's like dude. Everything you say. The opposite happened stop making prediction. They pay amy for after early series. Actually like man. You gotta listen to this podcast. It's fucking bag is GONNA be out in far. Ah Okay I swear they got. It was like a one of those repeating game one okay. They wind but you know I got him to the sweep one. I was actually thinking three hours at home and like like my wife will be like you know like occasionally play with tell old stories hockey. Just make up stuff is completely live late late at night late at night. You made a sick fuck you can be on TV. I thought you played with it. Is it was eighty thousand threads sheets. Thank you flower. You helped pay for these. How much you lose on us? is quite like thirty five hundred not use it but then I but then I took you guys will wash flower came on the podcast and then you guys want one more game we fucked you guys over on that when I took you guys against Winnipeg in two of the Games and made it all back thank you for coming. uh-huh revoke we cap off with another hit story. Just totally sure. Sure like wouldn't you wouldn't is be like I give it back to them a little bit. Yeah that's the thing is like he. That's one thing about hitches. You can give it back to him and he loves it like he fucking loves that man and the biggest time I snapped. I come off the ice. And he's Chirpin me. Fuck you remove the fucking puck deep slide slide right still chirping filtering me slide right against still serve me tells Yosef fucking tell this house view shut the fuck up of a Saas Yun fat fucking Oh shit. I shouldn't have called your line next hundred percent. The fucking love that about coaches shove it up my ass shot can prove me wrong fat center and I was like right right. Eight Adam to Josie comes out. Hey probably shouldn't tell the hell head coach Slash Moustapha. Well I know I know I'm going to apologize. Walk Up. Hey Henchman. Sorry I didn't mean to say that is like I don't even know what you're talking about. What is does he? He's not sensitive and you can give it right back to when he's giving it to and he's not gonNA. There's not going to give two shits a minute later. I like with my two weeks era. I was kind of pissed off. I liked to lock cut me. What do you mean the locker room? I remember somebody got ran on on the blues and it was a preseason game I wanna say it was against Minnesota we both fucking ah awesome got shredded person. I've ever seen all time jet taking this. I wish I would look like that but I think rival. Ah reckless and then right after hitches like he's like are you GonNa get out there and fight too busy like why are we giving you all that per diem so I went out there. The next shift fought that really. Beckel was buckled. Yeah yeah twice that night. Yeah it was passed Simone. Tomorrow you hitch trash. I remember during that tryout. I like walk to the shower. One time didn't even know you're trying for this. The Guy Watch come on my apartment. I'll set you all up so much boys is this is this is this is ideal flour attention to those guys. Three characters no doubt about each in their own separate ways so ought to get all three working together. It was a little bit of a mini symphony going on there. So I'm glad we're happy. Those guys stop by Next up we had a pair of brothers man at the All Star game. The brothers Yandell. Ross and Keith. I you got one of these guys in a room. It's pretty funny but you get both of them and it's comedy off the wall so everybody Saudi enjoyed these ethics of these two. So we're GONNA pull them up right now. Enjoy the brothers your here now lease to be here by two closer friends of mine and also Keith. Yandell being one of the closest members of the plane community on all the time. Brian Yandell Keith. Thanks for coming on all star weekend was going on nothing much. Glad to be here. You guys get some nice digs here. We heard you took a southwest to stop fighting. Yeah well you know I just got to save when you can get the kids like doing stops under two hours. Yeah so yeah no. We had a nice little bird out. Here Let's get nice facial hair. Got The one big razor putting it the work. Yeah I know just You gotta you gotTa do what you gotTa do when you when when they give you one six in prison. That's what you do. You brought the more talented. Young Hockey Skulls Yasser and actually had the pleasure of playing with him. He was a black case in Wilkes. Barre Scranton lacked out Asia. I'm sure he was real sober. Yeah that was a hell of an experience with with that crew down on wilkes-barre wins that's the rap song he's referring to you. Maybe we get the mix tape Back from that laws and I'm like a cook from the all members. Murli just gotten essays from Chris Bates. I don't think he ever made it. But that was a banger. I think you know the rapper named I think he was spare crew the wilkes-barre crew so we played them in bar and grill but that was a that locker room was legitimate. Help you had a Boston. Crew Kells Welsh e Lan. Oh you added meet the mix somehow business basically from Boston and then you had Biz Castillo bonvie ridiculous basically history pro hockey nuts. I gotta stay here didn't in where you're dominate and practice. Though I remember that I was like dude. You're snapping around here is I. I don't know how skate note there. How do we keep doing this every night night while he was commuting from Boston because he just had a kid and our holy Shit you as a guy the plan with a worst nose capable board Zainy is thicker who? I definitely felt. That was better than I should have been playing in those playoff stuff. All I agree I think forward. Yeah True Story. We slept in for a game and in Bridgeport and you me and Carson were roommates and we slept in for for for the game playing. Yeah was playing in that game. I was playing in the actual game. And I remember Jeff Barrett. Who who I think? He's still walks. Awesome Guy I was a piece of shit I I was. I was a very unprofessional. Run Nightmares. Yeah and I'll admit I was is a nightmare and that's how I see was even worse. CARSEAT was I mean. We don't need to go there because he's he's turned over a new leaf. Obviously if you fucking turn on the Internet so having you in on this path you know more of a map quest kind of path on our. Vp New are a the slept slept in for a playoff game. And we got there and Jeff Barrett was like you gain. What's better wins? And I think Ryan Ryan Stone Whitney who we're GONNA maybe interview on this trip on the team today. He ended up scoring the game or that game. I want to thank God because we were at a first first round series and we had a stack squad. You name dropped all of them. Half of them ended up being NHL. Ross and the other half and Rehab at the other the other half time and You know But Yeah we ended up winning that game winning that series. I think we lost the next round against her. She like four straight. And you were on the team. Anyway I was. I was in building lighting it up though. Isn't that my guy playoffs. Like five games the first series to which is I think they changed that year to three play. It's all on the first game and it goes into. Hey we have teddy pursell on this with us because he goes way way back with Keith. And that's the main days Oh shoot back the mayonnaise. I haven't talked a little bit but I think I wanNA competition. I was like one hundred percent of the like business pitchers. Usually you're invited me back on good Best Twenty Promo Code. Of course. There was an ecology Energy Promo Code. And that's that's the walking back daddy daycare. Yeah I think keys we. I went to school. This Guy Billy Ryan become the string bean. Good Boston Fifty Eight MM STRANA any front. We were going to New York for a weekend. And he told me swing by his MOM's house to pick up a fifty dollar bill for the weekend because pick up a fifty sheet. He thought I was going to be good for on. What about New York Chris? Hey Memorial Company and St Paul to your hotel there like it's a fifty fifty four fifty five dollars charge for overnight parking. You're like all right. THERE GOES THE NEW YORK I've trip ended ten days eight or as you pull back into Milton these if you WANNA get a coffee offic we say. We went to Moncton for the Memorial Cup when Keith was there and strings like be wise like I'll drive I all right duty pulls up like six. Am Keats got a game right. I swear to God a family of squirrels came out in the trunk of his car. The coastal will. It was all green Toyota forerunner. There was like there was a squirrel. Suck on jolly rancher fucking bag of doritos are- does it was not basically Ra string. We can't take this God dude no fucking way before you've left boss. He goes in you. Why will be all right Dodi? We'll get there. I'm like no I. It's a call. One of my uncles borrow ISKA. We went to plan. B. Was Ki. Yeah been there a few times a string bean ambi that Toda or whatever it was forerunner had six hundred thousand kilometers on. He's against brand new. Seems like a lot of miles. was that the car. It was at the car when you were going back New Year's Day when you're at cushing yet here that you gotTa tell this story new New Year's Day you guys were fourteen and thirteen. No we were. I was probably sixteen or seventeen. He was eighteen. We went home for New Year. We drove back to party with our friends back home when out. New Year's Eve night got smashed hockey practice at cushing. The price the high school that we went to like an hour away from Boston. We're driving back doc. I fall asleep. I fall asleep. There's a back road to cushing like back road I I'm sleeping. I wake up. I look at this dominant. Governor says sixty four my whoa where buzzing right now for this back road I look at him. He's like this a sweet sleep like the dead asleep. I'm like Oh shit I'm like what do I do. I can't I can't wake them up so I just now I just turn the volume up a little do he's cruising using this row. I start turning the volume up a little bit look. We're almost there without batting an eye goes. We're almost there on my way way to wake them up. Though he can't screaming all the increase in the volume wouldn't be today if it wasn't for that. Yeah Doc I think we need a break after that. No I think. I think that we should get into so Brian. I grew up together. We played hockey together since we were about ten years old partner Regretable Player D. Partners when we won the Quebec term. You guys ever heard of that. We world championship season around so now a decent roster I think we had like close to three first round picks. Ten Ten to twelve full scholarships and college so we ended up in the American league exactly and then a black ace in woke Berg when he was hanging out with Biz goodluck. Who Time All American? But so now in our group chat with everyone involved back home Brian. Ross to us and I just love maybe Keith. To give that story or Bri one like when when someone says the name. And you're like oh you mean like I said Keith and Rosser companies. He's like who the fuck Ross. I was like his brother. He's like. Oh my God I we gotta wait for the toll mocking the story. Jack Edwards Thaw Jack my boy so we were playing the Bruins. It was like one of my first Games playing the Bruins and obviously he was at the game watching stuff but everybody who wasn't was at home watching on the NASA whatever Jack Edwards does and apparently during the game he goes out. And that's Keith. Jan was brother two time all American at. UNH is brother. Ross Brian I had probably how many times like four hundred tax after the game. Everybody so now everybody what he calls him. Roy Officer Roscoe even even better than you. You're lugging pock up is key. Canada pushing it up ice with pace whose brother Ross start at. UNH for four years. We were just like Oh my phone I must have had the I had like a nextel at the time. Like I couldn't even get tax tale blowing house with good carrier. Signal Sane was awesome. It was absolutely ridiculous so that's a good nickname and Edwards is probably hitting the pipe up in the booth because apparently he likes to fuck and smoke weed nause so we might as well get into. I've heard that I've heard that Jack gets put on the other side of the hotel from the players because he likes to APPs because he likes to he likes to smoke dope. I'd only makes references all. Ra's here we're GONNA we're GonNa remind everyone listening that the Ra go way back way back. Yeah the Maganga families do go way back their dad. My Dad know each going back. Sixty seventy years uncle Paul. My data best friends going back a lot of times. I'll go Paul. My mom graduate family auto. Paul Paul Watch your feet for all those name. Droves connections man no yeah with the mechanical cleanse back in Charleston. I know that's that's ancestry. Whose families robbed more banks definitely definitely Keats? Oh to stay. I love throwing the family had a few too. He's bragging just you know like I mean everybody cousin didn't cousin's cousin rob the bank. I mean it just bought a grownup there. It was just a generational thing you know. Everybody's up in Milton. Everybody's all right stop it very are pleading come on Robin banks and so we were all in Maine. We thought we were cool. String bean was like a third round or we had Rob Bellamy to. He's like felony. Felony was beaten his head off the wall. He's a squad and the whole gym might always singing his deck off off. Good tunes are good Slenda But I was like man. Why are these savages like lifting? So much I was like these skinny little loser in Maine so we thanks so annual. Twenty six I'll the one hundred. Yeah Button Yeah. I was a babysitter. But all these guys will yeah come out and at the end of the year String bean was like. Hey the buddy keith. Coming on Mike you know who he is. I'm like no Kishi under left. Shot like drafted a code. He's blazer now I don't know so he comes up to Maine. He doesn't have his licence licenses. Think I don't know how old you are. Eighteen still didn't have his licence bought. It bought a new hope comes in. We're at a cash. Were at the Party and I it was like I don't even know what it was is like a romp room or prison where everyone live and all of us lived there and keys comes in Biza Kagera. This man can get you in call. I I know it was fifty bucks. Main natty light it assigned for one. He designed for one hook. But we're like all this guy's awesome. I'd be like a five. I didn't have any who I am starting to pay. No business like Eddie at the Red Solo Cups or five twenty five each. Everyone has six bucks. Because I'm a businessman tweet a picture of you and I together this cake. This gets crushed and we're like oh man parties over like sunk uh-huh nerd sober person goes back to the brewery by three more kegs for like fifty bucks. Were thought he was a man and ever since then. He's been my favorite player. I'll take that doesn't know a call of the pocket. Steady hates looking down at the par not even know what color the puck is. Oh boy speaking a song we add the worst is behind the net play. So He's behind the net I. I don't play many games for the Phoenix coyotes. So so I'm in the press box. No I was actually in P.'s. Room where Cameroon video so I have the audio as well. and He's behind the net and Colorado and end cody. McLeod was a cody McLeod in front of the net. You don't yeah you don't remember. You're too busy fucking staring at the camera. As he sunken he kind of comes out like fake fake passes it. And Cody McLeod Hook Line and sinker just bites. And basically sprints to the wall is the PUCK was passed there and he's like Yup sound and you can hear it on the audio audio the television erupting in fucking laughter. No instep outside net. It's his favorite movie was still i. I don't know how guys fall for still fall fall. They do all the time trying to hear them to those a fake one. And that's what we heard saw. Aw I was like this kid is lost his mind laws as mine then he just starts busting up is another good story about Keith. People like wonder. What was this kid growing up you? You like Brian. You'll say I mean just complete menace to society. We need younger Jason out here. Snap your head snaps right here. So one of our best buddies buns. o'byrne Brendan unburned. He's a judge now. They're all playing street hockey outside and Brennan's father who is the judge as driving buys a K- Keith. You know they moved the nets. They stopped beginning and moved the nets. Kinda like Wayne's world game off. They moved the nets draw. Just look the car by. It's Mr Byrne. Hey Keith see later bud keep those turns around moons them and just go. CLA CLA Bonzo. These ten years old moon in one of our buddies data. That's who you know you have someone on your on your on your hands. Who's just a little crazy than everyone? Someone else yeah. What do you think about that? I grew out of it. I'm yeah no wild card wild like third kid in our family missile. We have a sister in between US Kevin as we call her. She's the best. She's she's she number one on the family but she basically raised raise. Keith Kev raise Keith. And But he was he was a wild cod as a kid he'd used didn't know what he was going to get. One Sunday was a skateboarder. Moonen people yet just rapper rapper. Everything going on member. I remember being like sixteen years old and like listening. Listen to rap music or whatever like not even all of a sudden he comes up with he's got like naps the going with Slob on my knob on what the fuck is going on the Levin here this song he's like stop on my nop. Not On. The talk is going on here but I mean all work. It's amazing you're like so clean. Cut now a member when he when he wouldn't leave New York. The screen came up earlier. Brian Keith just turned pro and prize was still playing at the time. And he's trained deck off. We're going every day to be you trained. And we're like Keith. You come back normal said Ed Bryant like what is wrong with you ain't GonNa play in the NHL Brow seen a couple of days. Calm Down Right now. I'll be home. Don't you worry shelf. We left the whole time Breisach. This kid is fucking can complete idiot now he's Nhl all star. No because then it come into work out like me. You would be working on a summer. And he'd come in and be like Mike Mike Boyle I'm gonNA flock in GonNa make him do like whatever I'm GonNa Bury them in the next day like he'd go like Monday so we'd get not thin for that one day and then they come back Tuesday and he's like there's no ways even going to be one keith. Abi Like Dude. You're not sorry he's like no he's like. No why. Why would I be soil fucking month with when meanwhile we can barely walk and they had a headache a couple of glasses of wine but no my body's fine at at that point he was at that point? I actually recorded a mix of older. I've been I've been singing all night. You got these bars slob on my knob bomb and I don't know if you WanNa tell the story but that went all the way up into your close to the draft where y you dropped in the draft. It's a bit of intense story. I don't know if you want to tell them the pod. No I mean it's got a big fight and before the draft and it got back to some teams I guess and then I think I'm going to beat fought. Somebody's Scouts Scouts Kit. Yes coats on or something like that. I don't know for back then. I thought maybe the toughest would bumped up in the stall. And then I think Keith Gretzky who was the Scott of he was right now is he so come on and off icefall blessed before they did though yeah he doesn't give it. It was at A. WHO's on? No no what's that place. Across from fenway. WHO's on first? Yeah Yeah it was. When Mike was going bananas that Might Kevin Walton Night? I'll change couple. I'll change from the office. Fight to one of the on-ice fights involving handles. There's a hockey league. I don't know if it's still gonNA Bridgewater. Yeah though in the summer local Boston guys all college players bunch of pros are playing. I was on the most stack team. Time our defense or pick myself. Chilston Elson Billy tibbets. Brennan dog would fight anyone. We'd win either way to handle. Yeah I wouldn't. They would fight everyone. So the handlebars are on a team. And they're playing the game the nine thirty game so I come in. I'm watching their third period. Keith Somehow squares off with some Russian kid who will way he he does young. I don seventeen. I was sixteen seventeen. So even playing the league's big time so he squares off with this kid in this Russian judge drills roles and wind bang absolute one bang right in the teeth and I see Brian Handle. Who's going back for a pack and turns and sees the fight he's like Shrek bomb down jumps on this kid shoulders? He's wrestling around the Russian as he dragged him down. Keith gets up. He's trying to fight. There's the brothers stick together goes it was just always that way. He looked like Jimmy superfly snuka escaping across the ice. It was unbelievable. Jimmy Snyder flies but yeah he would that. I got married to get plastic surgery on my mouth to him. Yeah he knew up my lowest to pick that kid up the other day. He was doing push ups on his knuckles Michael Savage. Thanks for the heads. I appreciate the skull check. Check game notes buds. Yeah no name on the game notes Eh. Keith Yuliana all we got a question Hamilton duty. I mean you've been on a torrid pace obeys easy the last five fucking years but particularly this year. You've been really lighten it up. Did you do some in the off season job spring training regimen. Did you do something like why. Why are you so fucking on? Fire this year robbery milk instead of talk in the morning a changed the sport corridas. It is tennis court back at his compound VOSS. Yeah no I've been nothing. Nothing uses head and chill out conniving really changed anything and probably the last ten years I've really changed much but Except for the one bic razor used to shave nuts within the shower phoenix. Shower my suit after game plan that pitcher look like he had the Samoan brothers. fucking Alexis those disgusting. Thanks pardon me. Josh says hit him with a weed. Wacker but Teddy on Teddy's taking a time out here What else what else is going on so this this week Bryan all your kids are here? Three Sons Yeah Ryan Kolon Liamine. The story I was told was that they were all driving the car. Keith call awesome you guys want to come to the All Star game. How cool is that? It was awesome. They're GONNA be in the room this week. Oh Yeah Yeah yeah they send to me. They go my oldest. Brian Smokes I was. We will come back from. He's Korea taxed in on my car where he goes Chelm. I WanNa be on the PODCAST. I listen to what they say. Twenty swears like what have I can. Listen uh-huh oh shit. Now is the my my my kids in every the entire film Israeli excited to be here it was it was awesome. They loved it. They literally like in the car. Ride home from hockey practice. Keith all these like hey you guys WanNa come to the game and they will went. Bananas S. for like fifteen minutes. Dad is better than Christmas. Babu I and it was. I mean it really was. It was cool so my care anyway. Ayu Daughters all MCI on the road. We're going to be on the flight with us. We gotta go salt weather the Louis Vuitton diapers. Hey so I mean. I'd like to talk about wit as a as a kid. Aw that's Ed this interview and then do a two part episode with a few more. Promo Codes Mummies Kedah you would. I like to me like we. All you had was tap water at our house and came over there be gatorade like all Brian's coming l. but we gotta have steak tonight okay. No every time I came over I was like why do you guys get a huge boxes of granola bars. Deliver that day like. Oh that's every day we just we. We happened by twenty-five boxers. Every week I would just go over there. And he chocolate chip chewy out to bars also had a big issue with clogging your toilet scratch Ashley. Bryant was the original triple right under wipe pursuade reached each all shit on his balls cast research me wipe and he's like. What are you doing such a thing? All we ended up aw and a crumbling rumbles instead of how to yeah of course. He does the toxin his mouth baby wipe so he was the original tea the threat so was it a deuces clogging the toilet paper clogging. I think it was just it was out. Throw my shoe in there. At some point I try to push everything down them back. This was why brise kids going back and everyone knows the story of brize oldest little. Brian Yandell Brian. The second any Eddie sitting over my parents house when they were living next door. And he's like my mom's like what's up little pigs I the harlot. She goes in at seven rolls of toilet paper three hand towels and just as far as parents fight now Ben Stiller in along came polly when alleged out of Ashi Fuss. He's like okay. I'm going home next door. See You tomorrow. So so that's Yeah that's family goes way back but I guess the payback of the of the clogging of the dumpers. This is now you're bad but the with dog my original impression of him. He had the yellow like Kupa bucket. Memory altius busier a little younger than us. To de Nike took it over after Alma was unreal coop cooper home almost like I had the sea. That's winning the different. You could screw on the different colors side pieces remember memo to lie. I had the Combo at the Kyoto. Another listen no. You had the yellow bucket. You had the yellow box with the blue. Screw Bruce baby then he had the Combo platter with a cage number two shield thing and then the cage underneath would that was Julie. The Cat Gaffney. I wonder stall yeah. Yeah but when validated it was like the head of your time. Actually I suspect pick me up when I was playing football at novels that you create view throws a baseball left the football radi ray read all that free cast on ingrates sign even like shoot. Talk Golf Hockey tourneys. I got a middle school football game at Noblesville. Like all right so we like pick them up and then like they defensive and my my big Baden big Dan like drop me off the game like yeah go watch. Brian's game now of course they go to a bar and like getting cooler that would have fit seven seven bodies in it to drive to like stone his twelve minutes. I'll ride there so they go. I like you know. He's kind of like showing off in front of me runs out on the field and like half of his helmet bike padding like where did they go. And he's playing like I was this coupon uh-huh tackle buried feeder all. His legs are up over his head. He's like I got the alcohol overnight camp with a counselor. Yeah I remember. I remember what you're going to say okay. So you brought me out in one. Hello thank you. It was like a overnight. Camp would be you be you. You stayed there played hockey but they are so they took us to a red SOx game there was this kid. He was a few years old of the male l.. Never forget his name. I don't even know if I should say his name Dan Seville. I'll never forget order. BLEEP it out so he was. He's probably like two or three years old and the me he brings his baseball glove. I am all over this kid during the game I go you really think you're catching a ball. Like what are you gonNA play. George are you going to go play shortstop instead anoma right now like get in the stands. I'm all over the whole game. He's like you're GONNA get it. You're going to get it. I'm like okay. What are you GonNa beat me up with the glove? We get back to the DORMS. This kid puts a beaten on me like you. You wouldn't believe on my off Fox crying. I go find wit. What's the count? I think you'll like a freshman going into my freshman. Yeah so what's that seventeen or something. Yeah I go to a witty's and he's like what Katie grabs the kid strings them out hit some with a left on my. That's my boy putting a beat on this kid for me. It was awesome. The only Caveat Cavani would pay that they're GONNA put up a lawsuit going on. Yeah my roommate had to Retz. uh-huh no joke. This kid from New Jersey. I wake up. It'd be over my bed on my show and morning. Kill all we will guys guys Skies Tomorrow is GONNA hockey question. All Right Hamilton is third all star game. He had a couple on your own. The desert or the Business D. played welcome. What are you looking forward to in particular this weekend? Anything and now that you know you're over thirty you beds in the locker room with some of the guys kind of look up to the on the All star weekend when you die probably not Ra might be getting a suspension again. This might be the Words learn might be seeing the another call you back fucking all your tone you ninety What are you doing for still skills? I'm high five guy. Yeah you're you're media Guy Mike you up. If you'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA Tomahawk is arms off when they're on breakaways. Hit a stick. What part at what point we were like knocking hit his wrist? Because you you were going to get his brother right there. During the wind up it was a long line up by like Monaghan. Handsome Guy. Good guy hangs out Johnny Ham and cheese. So let's lay off. Yeah that was Lindholm. He was fucking amputation. Rated by by wouldn't hit anyone sloshing the ordering at my first practice. And Oh my God when you tried to fight me. I tried to fight you. Answer I practice practice why you like. That's not the guy you try to go after you know. I don't check the game notes. Buds I was just get here. Yeah yeah he's a trying to end my career and they're like actually a skies a good fog. I will keep him around Ki. Ki The game the game log anyways so so I'm playing in La and he's got called up by accident. I think like four guys for their passports really GonNa time. We're in Canada. Were playing the I dunno trial. Murali's four guys were going for day in a game back. I brought my passport because I was like I'm always ready to get called. Always ready guy and so then like Molson forgotten password. Think boy they're dead boys too strong. It'll be my passport and Sean. So then everyone generally are. You're liking guy. You Gotta get called up kings media on my art so it was like when I go there. I think it's my second or third game so I knew Keith. From like main days through mutual friends eggs he bought a bunch of kegs bought. It didn't have a license so I go. I see him at the red line. He's doing all this weird stuff. He's he looks good. He's stretching on my my buddy. I don't really have anyone in the NHL. I was like a fan I was a loser. goes up like hey man what's up. He goes a fucker. You doing air surely mind the wrong spot. CRESPI was a coach's eye. Your name wasn't even on the line. I didn't know you're here. I'm like my confidence was like feeling pretty. Good I've already had my first point and I was like Oh God like at one one point. He was behind Me Beers and now. He's just ruined my Kim Yada. I told this one before about Keith but now that I can't camera so you know everyone knows occasionally guys will sit like this. You know you try to be really mature and Keith. You say that's when you're in the National League so we're all always sitting like this having having lunch messing around just like. Oh Yeah. Did you call your money guide. You move some money over yeah just getting hammered. Another couple million. Thanks a lot. We'll just go on like this having a coffee so I ended up getting out of the NHL. You know. Things ended poorly in San Antonio Samaranch. Where am I going to go Russia? Where am I going? I don't know I just WanNa make some money playing. So I'm sitting with Keith. Shoot the shipment of the summer and I cross my legs like this and all of a sudden I look like what do you mean you on the Joni. The only son of the League actively respects you. Respect it Faulk what's it like. Play now all the guys are so young. They're not like US anymore. You know it's crazy. It's still have the best time every day I mean that's that's what that's all our friends at home. Say that every day. It's I think you you pretty much act like the guy who was like. I'm so so appreciative of being in the NHL. Oh that's so great. I wish I do anything. Go back in time and act like that every day. I'm playing I'm making millions playing hockey. But you've always spend like that. Yeah I mean I I love I love. He loved the boys. I'm the Roller Boys. Love everything about the National Hockey League. I absolutely love it private flight. No Hey so even before private flights he signed a bunch of money. He's fly first class so him in with came to like the NHL lockout. This is like a really funny story. Now Keith is upgraded to like private plane so before he used to fly. I got Arby's yeah a need visit winter. Taking a six our trip will take it twelve hours like up the coast and like do the dark. It's either Nice sunsets really nice but before that wit and he ends. We're coming into the trainer in the locker. Okay I think we're in the Phoenix Scottsdale Scottsdale one and they wit and Yan's were sitting like in the last row of first class like on the planet plants like the ends like hits a button and then the the flight attendant comes back in. She's like yeah. You need to plan to seconds. It's like can you close the curtain behind her. So okay wants. This is the same trip that I had on earlier. Like worst Keith. Boston late comes bombing and he takes his winter hat off. Because it's freezing and Boston hairs ever. I think I have a picture of twitter on it and goes into his bag. I'm like what are you getting. These whipsawed like a seven pound bag of Teddy Grahams chocolate caramel flavor. Biggest biggest. Triple play off this is the NHL lock on all this shit other stories. We used to just call him fired. Smell God saw. Yeah this is funny for his like random comments. And and he. I mean it's Kinda route I don't know if we even bring it up because he's a caller STU farts networks. Because like you know after games crush steak we'd all this food and we're like farting and are changing jogging suit. You're waiting at a fire waiting to like waiting to call at night when they Benny Eddie always down position like literally they're stepping. You're tainted like we used the weight on your face waiting for their reaction. They're just like so mu to special I never I don't don't even smell dartboard and I literally took out my nose. Nostril things that make me off off the rails creek there. Where did that even start with? What other stories are involved teddy grams? Oh yeah that was the end of that. We had a fun trip though. That was a good time that was when Teddy Teddy. And Bugsy Zenaida driving to skate in the morning and we're getting ready for the NHL season thing it's going to start doing. And Bugsy Crash in Dallas. I was in Dallas Dallas thousand other trip. I remember that trip. That was what area maybe Bernardino. We already know what story. But how bad was he skate. This is Danny clear. We're talking about. I mean this is the the guy who says. I'll come on during the cup finals on the cup. Champion will but I'll tell you right now. During that skate he looked like a call there. Maybe a Kelly Cup. Maybe whatever his middle name name is Daniel Steve Eisenman clary. He thinks he can't come on because he's man remember. How baddie was Keith? While you said I know we talked about it before his own. Wait timeout so I was gone. I believe till you know I was in Cardiff playing in the house. Also League Saugus Mouth Hockey town. I was playing in the show. Part of travels that had a brick wall on the side. US Locker Room battle. I I get Tax from Keith. Piano and it's a video of clear who went and rented skates. Let me ask you one of the funniest things I've ever tell the score story up. I think well you can. You can hop in but we went for dinner one night during this campaign. I mean we were there for an entire week pretty much. So one of the night's dinner and let's go over W bar have a couple of drinks. You Scottsdale W Scottsdale Nice little set up. So we're or sitting around having Jackson all of a sudden like porks like look look and bear Dan cleary keep in mind before you start go or keep going they had a fake little ice-free. Yeah because it was like the wintertime over the pool. You can rent some skates you can rent some bender wheels the skates I want my whole career. They're like hey they're the exact got him over there in the hotel like exact same. Exactly the same setup L. Cross. Oh Oh my God look there now. This is Stanley Cup champ. At fifteen sixteen scene he was called book the next Wayne Gretzky Dan cleary. He is out on the ice. Pretend I don't know if he was pretending or at that point that's how he skated. His ankles were bending in like ah skating around like gods and I never laughed that hard. We're like give them a stick. The best part was civilians. Were like. Hey Escape Bend your knees. Thank you civilians telling at that time. Two two-time right. He was telling Y'all one ton cup I I don't know if he got a second. Why don't think it's any? I don't think he's on the company more because Keith. He was that bad that keep told the engraving his name off the call. Hey misspeaking a new fees member Adam Parliament. We used to call his uncle during Hedley all members uncles would call me baby or a guy it sounds like honestly he. He's he's he's not all there but if he was like he's funniest Larry David without even knowing so he had to like get up here to go before the judge one day. And they're like Headley. You gotta get up before. The judgy goes large. Jesus what time in the morning does he wake up because the judge he's largest. What time does he wake up? It's in there like He. He stood up for trial and error. Like all right. What's your name is like Headley Temple? They're like when's your birthday. Today's like may nineteenth and they're like well what year he's like large Jesus. Every year we used they call him on speaker to like start our morning every morning in Dallas. Because we'd be like hung over Cup of coffee. Yeah parts mutant parts. This is kind of vom random but we have to talk with the bugsy story in Long Island because he probably won't tell it all we got to let him. I think he will. He will by the under the weekend. We're going to open them. Wear on Malone set the tone Malone Baz name ever in bed Kiwi ops. I Know Hockey Courts Korea Russian Patriots Fan. What he's doing for the Super Bowl the pats looking out for another super bowl here in Atlanta? You never know I might be there Hotlanta. Oh Hey hey you two a couple of having you. I went to the one. I hear the bird Houston when they South Wezi they beat Atlanta. Me and Sean thought there there was What you would have thought I was with the legitimate? Jesus Christ the way people in Boston with treating this Scott took six thousand photos of him other people you say. Yeah I was that Guy I was just. I wasn't even take that came out. Good you that guy taking pictures of that guy. Yeah that's a suspension saucy mark. Brian Funny Key theme of Stories. You can share with us that you had add maybe in your mind before you came on. I don't mean to put you on the spot. It's tough God. If you keep talking they come up with right to put someone on. What do you think about? Keith decided. A decided to him to go major junior instead of college. Why did that ended up happening well? Because he couldn't same reason he couldn't spell. UNH I remember. I don't know if I got a call. This is obviously like so I was maybe at keithres. Probably like eighth grade freshman year. I was maybe like my freshman year and at that time. I don't even think I had a cell phone so I like my home. Phone Rang Keith. Answered the phone I wasn't home and The coach. UNH's name was Dick. Dick Umile so Richard. So Keith. Leaves and no-show Keith. Leaves a note on the kitchen table. He's like old school. He's like Coach you millie called you know. Call us back at this number. So I read the thing and it's Y. O. U. M. I. L. E. Like You Milli. He sounded it out. Great great job but that. Yeah but it's he actually pay attention to college hockey in the last twenty five years and it's just a straight U. M. I l. e.. I do have a good buddy handle story about when Keith was being recruited and coaches would call on the house to mit what. You've heard this one. Yeah this is Brown so all those merrimack went to remember. Remember why he's on the phone. He goes if don't know who he's talking to. He goes if my son could spell the name in your school. I'd let them come there and then hung merrimack coach. What are we doing all? Yeah you're right. I couldn't Mary. Yeah the Brown one. The Brown was great so he was a London Knights of the table. It was kind of good. I mean he was supposed supposed to come play with me at. UNH My senior and we would have played together which would have been all obviously awesome But it didn't work out so he was getting recruited by different places. In one time I forget who it was recruiting for Brown University which is obviously an Ivy League school and they called the house hosts and my father answers the phone. And she's like and he's Ikea yet. So what school. He went though Brown. Oh yeah he's SAIGA listen. He's the only brown that kids going to be seen is in his underwear. It Ain't event happen. I appreciate your calling though food codes. Coaching people who call. Yeah we're getting recur my kid. He's GonNa have a shit that caller on where he ain't come and no chat. It's unbelievable and and it all worked out. I remember I think he got drafted and Like you weren't drafted by Monckton knows about Yakult to me. Yeah like me. Whatever so My mother answered the phone. G Kabanov something was the GM. My mother obviously had no clue who was like didn't have anything anything she's like Like I you know Misiones G conroe cheese like I say my husband handles all the hockey stuff. No He's not patty. I ever. Some guy couldn't spell you millie. UNH Oh all right. You got more hockey questions you want to talk about my do. Yeah Alright Hamilton. And all right anybody that you haven't I ran into in the all-star from yet that you looking forward to maybe this weekend somebody like looked out to just appear you haven't been say. Hey Man I appreciate what you do. Oh I haven't been a lock him yet but He's got didn't bring my gear. The game was yesterday. Hasn't been decided yet. Senior wrench from five five looking forward to that I saw I saw Shane Doan today. Obviously a guy who had a huge impact in my career that was cool. And I'M GONNA absolute weapon main artery right and it's called. Yeah Holy Chrysler Lady on Instagram. Mary criminals are you're crazy Yeah no I think all the young guys too. I'm excited saw Austin Matthews today You know set that height on. Can you tell everyone not that cheap. No no that's key I mean not not. I don't you never paid for a meal once but I never wanted you to write you did you did you always if we went out you always pay but then collected more the next day. Yeah three hundred h like we were at in fact we literally didn't go out seventy six others crazy tax you know in the note state taxes knotted one. Yeah Yeah I wouldn't say you because you spend him and we go to the mall food you just don't you just don't like to pay for food when there's a richer people around which the install the bad thing you says the guy who got. PJ with his family here because a key yeah exactly agree. Time fly flown by firemen. Seemed like yesterday just broken the League one of the all the guys in the All Star Game Locker Room to hang himself with the airplane plan breaking in his new tag. Yeah I mean it has flown by definitely and I I mean guys always say to enjoy because you never know ends quick and you know you see guys retiring and you know I. It obviously goes quick but I think I mean I've pretty much enjoyed every minute of it and I and I'm going to enjoy every minute of it. Yeah he seemed like a guy who's been having some fun with. Oh yeah all right. Well enjoy boys anymore anymore arsenal teddy. Yeah Hamilton maybe Well no we hadn't summoned any. I mean I'm sure we can get questions in about five. Oh one alright Hamilton. All Right W. WWF bring out the simpsons. Simpson's are a movie. I say that every before every episode around town. Hey you guys know that. Like he's says Simpson's Simpson's quotes every episode and you guys just don't react to it. Well sometimes I do I say what the INS Adam. Yeah Oh yeah so I mean yes. He gets them say wait. Let's talk a lot. More people get them. I would think let's talk about. How key is white trash in the sense that he loves MTV Television Shows Team Watch sixteen and pregnant episode anybody three jet skis and he takes him out and then he goes back and watches teen mom yeah full days complete complete track have a TV on my Jetski anybody? Anybody who is much tattoos is Biz can become anybody white trash oh Suck on them. One Biz South Wales UH pointing. We can wrap APP this fiction to thank you very much. Ross Brian and Keith Yandell thanks and of course teddy. pursell hopping in here. This is awesome correspondent once again. Thanks to those two WACKOS. I'm sure they'll be back sooner rather than later. Especially officer Ross with his new monthly segment actually are a speaking of the animals. This is probably a good time to play probably the prank of the year Keith Yandell teamed up with wits buddy fully to pull off an all time prank on New Teammate Nola Shari and Mackenzie weaker so without further ado do here is the foliage. Chari story Says Oh yeah here. Here's Mackenzie Leaguers number. Here's here's a week here. So falls decides to send Wieger taxed and now if going into what I'm about to read if you remember Nola Chari the newest Florida Panther a very good signing for the Florida Panthers play great great minutes for the Bruins. He joined the team. He also had a fight. A memorable rebel fight for himself and not so memorable fight last year from McKenzie Wieger when they battled so now their teammates is it awkward. People always ask that. I mean not really going in the locker room. What's up but they don't they don't give a fuck but that has something to do with it so full says hey weeks Nola Chari here super psyched to play with view? Any chance I can get number fifty two. I mean I did beat your ass last year. So you know McKenzie weaker what the fuck he writes a Chari. What's up Bro? Can't wait to play with you too happy to fight you either. Like probably we read the chairman was like what the fuck but like. He's new team could be just complete pending on what their sense of. Humor is coming in hot. So Noah Chari Aka false comes back with what about the number. Because you know Wieger didn't answer that question in the first response so chari false else goes back with. I make way more money than you so I should get it so we we go at this. By what a prick he goes ha ha ha. What and you know when you ha ha? That's so phantom that's just like holy holy what so Chari comes back again with. I make more iron than you so I should get to wear fifty two over you. We could still be friends so all of a sudden Kiki look at the tax. So we're like okay. What's going on here? This is this this is kind of bullshit Chari clown. I gotta ask my boy yet. He's a veteran in the league. I gotTA ask a question. It's just so funny. They enter the ends on. and Ed the fact that you can't just eat it all up it's just too good. It's too good so you know I'm reading for weeks now. He ends if a guy makes more money than you you. Does that mean you have to give up your hockey number L. O.. Alley right so yeah. WHO's now probably up? Just cry laughing. He writes usually depends on how many games played. Why so Mackenzie Rieger then sends back screen shot? He's got going on with the Chari Foley Foliage Charity. That's who says he sends the screen shot to Yan's where you can see his answer to Foley's last texts where Foley said I make more iron. You could still be friends. You could see his answer in the screen. Shot Chop Keith. Then sending me a screen shot so you can't see the full full one but you can see wieger answer all faulk. I completely forgot I fucking I love that number but it crossed off there and we are underneath the screen shot to Keith. Goes up choke to so you have to faulk will who's played more games. And then this is when he's sitting around and he's like man. I Love Them. Fifty two decades coming in. I don't WanNA lose this number. And he's bummed out so he text back to. I mean he's played more games in me which is fine. Put to ask like data to ask me like that man. No respect actually rattled superstock. I guess so the Response Ha. That's fucking incredible credible. Be Like Hey moneybags you gotta buy me a watch or something. That's a key thrown now by the way when I'm reading that line by Wieger like it's always superstar superstar that he's GonNa Laugh so hard thing like people people people might be like. Why are you reading this dude? That's just so so funny. Charity nosy isn't a superstar. And what does of appoint this guy texting him is acting like he's like Albert pools. Join the Angels Rookie Ver ver number. So now now I'm scrolling down here sorry and all of a sudden you could see screen shot from foliage Harry Wieger. This is from Wieger and he he at the top. You can't see what said but you see a Chari Foley say Nice doing business with you see it training in camp so I'm pretty sure on the text that that wasn't send that he said by me a watch and I think Foley's saying all right. Yeah I'll buy. I think we missed that. They broke her to the deal. It looks like they broke it so we are all of a sudden realizes wait. Don't you wear fifty five fifty two so polio. Charis not anymore fifty two now. Sorry and sorry probably time for a change for you anyway serious so we are now this business fuckers changes numbers just the just to take and he writes ha round three at camp winner can keep the number I think at this point he might know because like all those laws and then fully Chari wasn't yeah I'll beat your ass again again get line pal then sign a free agent deal like me and then you pick your number so fully guys oh this Nola Shari has just come onto the panthers seen as a horrible teammate and horrible guy poor Mackenzie has taken the brunt of it but that that is funny good old fashioned frank's right there next up a little in-house rivalry BORELLI versus avery. Every resident island is not frank borelli versus Former Ranger Sean. Avery who likes to mix it up but everybody especially people in the bike lane These two one at it and I I saw bringing it didn't you folks we're going to replay that for all right now. A reverse BORELLI Johnny for the podcast Gentlemen Gentlemen. How's it going good perfect time? And we have noted islands Fan Frank Borelli on the line to say. Hi Frank Sean. On every so sean. All Right Frankie Frankie. Let's get this girl Frankie. I mean breakdown. Sorry do you live in the city now. I do for work. My family's home still right. Pentecost East meadow. No you you personally live in New York City. I do right now. Yeah you got roommates. I do how old what are you. Twenty five that's cool. That's fun fun city right because this what do you mean I'm just getting and and I'm just getting to know you know. What do you want to go there because I mean what are we? What are we going to do? Like what the hell are you. Well I mean it depends. I see you at your fucking hat over twitter talking about the I understand me. It's calling US Greasy Italian Ryan Greasy disgusting fucking whatever you said. I honestly I should have listened to you when you started the video. Saying if you don't WanNa hear me talk about hockey I you should turn it off. They don't want to talk. Talk about hockey. Let's just be accurate. You Watch that video at least one hundred fifty times. You know exactly what I said for him. I didn't say anything about Italians talons. That's you just pulled that that's the crazy sensitivity. I love Italian. I said nothing about Italian. But Hey ah we all know where I would try to generalize. You're like we're greasy. WHO Says Greece seeing doesn't think of Italians? I am grateful. My Dad probably puts Grecian's hair as he opens up the Italian restaurant every day. And you know what it doesn't matter that's who we are very you to sit here and talk about our fan base and being disrespectful out of all old people in the World Sean. Avery GonNa tell people how to act. What are you fucking nuts? You know grounded scary on you are want in most dirtiest players and ain't history voted by your peers. As being one of the worst ever played with frankie knocked see. How many times did I ever get suspended in the NHL? I honestly don't know your your suspension regularly. I don't exactly you just throw things against the board hoping that it's going to stick very Bert talking and socks. I want you to start talking in stocks right now. John TAVERAS okay. There's no there's a laundry list of reasons why he didn't. Oh you or the islanders a single fucking thing you want me to start number one. No no player needs to decide one day I o this organization something and say you know what I plan on leaving in two two months even though he had no idea whether or not he was gonNA leave. How do you think you think he really knew? Do you know how many things I know you've only been in an NHL H. L. Locker Room to get some signs before but there's a million things that go through the mind of an NFL player when you have your entire life in front of you one indecision we've got a million times. I don't even think fitting check the an hour to listen. You go through the story Komo really we really. We listened to you chirpin now. He's coming up with valid points. I think we should let him finish. Like I'm I'm just playing the middleman here. Here's my here's I ah watching the old man walk down the street right now saying well Frankie. What do you want to get to your point? I mean your score you say you want to each another. Nobody wants to each other out of all kind of do aggravate me. Because that's who you are. You're an agitated that's like that's what you are. That's what your whole wanted. Then what's not ever to number two. Do you not think that the arena issue had serious a serious serious implications in his decision. I read an article this morning. From two thousand fifteen talking about how those guys had to take trains trains into the city. They've had to stay in hotels during the day for for home. Games bid wit. You know how uncomfortable that is. Home Games the the beautiful thing about home games is being able to go to your favorite restaurant around the corner from your house to be able to go home. Get into your own bed sleep with your own fucking pillow. How uncomfortable pre-game nap in a hotel on the road was shitty pillows when it because my neck I couldn't even I couldn't even do it because I my neck would end apart fluffy and my home pillows and they didn't have it right absolutely? No major major major factor. So so thank you just why. Why after a guy gives you guys a fucking run like this kid gives you that you guys are in the parking lot running over over his Jersey like barbarians you know what really set me off throwing shit at him as he's walking off the I what type of fucking fan end basis that that's just like it's embarrassing and I've agreed with that but you can't take an entire fan base and boil it up up into one fan throws a plastic snake or a jersey? It's the same thing with the families. You can find one or two a vocal minority type thing. Where how are you possibly? We supposed to say that all three server Brian Yorkey mark. There were organized on events in the parking lot. But that's like born tailgating shit are you. You're also like taking away. The part that this fan base had this date circled on their on their calendar for the entire season. It's something that that like. You know the the islanders opened up the parking lot at eight. Am It was drinking event. It's something vans. Got Up for the the teams playing unbelievable. They're playing a first place. Toronto's like this new rivalry now that we're we're getting ready for the. I couldn't wait for that Franken. Can I tell you my third point New York you work. The New York islanders have a difficult time attracting free agents. I'll tell you right now if a guy if a guy has a choice whether to go to the Rangers or the islanders it's pretty much guaranteed. He's going to the ranger. They had an opportunity to take a step forward in legitimizing the organization. They're playing claim. Great they got a great team. Lamb rails running running the show now. All they had to do was celebrate. TAVERAS act like grown-ups. It would have been a beautiful the full night and it would have set the tone for the future and being able to attract free agents to come play in that fucking dump arena in in a in a place where there's not a lot going on and I'm right man. You're actually not right reno. Maybe a dump but not for the not for what the fan. Now where the player with the fancy when they're in the actual state of yeah. We don't have great hallways and yeah. We don't have that many bathroom lines and yeah we don't have the top notch. Deers on her house. Avenue inside that stadium. You could see the fucking best hockey game you'll ever see in the NHL left to this day. I don't want to the Barclays Center where you can't even see a bookie you can't even see the offensive zone and I don't WanNa sit in one of these new arenas where you're you're eight hundred thousand feet up in the low stealing barn that the players there's one and they say that they can feel the electric understanding the locker. How many more how many arenas are left like that? How could you possibly see how the coliseum be something that you could rag on with with with with the way that the the islanders franchise with horrible siding than Ricky P. H. O.? Really bad contracts. I like the cost of the thing that we're going to really tell like that's the thing that that you know what I what I mean. I think one of the best things we have well. Let's agree to disagree but what I'm saying is I'm trying to help you. I'm trying to agree we with you. I WANNA BE I wanna be on your side. I want the islanders to do. Well I want them to be able to sign free agents because it's an attractive place for free agents to come and play but that stunt that they pulled was a side show and it also doesn't really reflect the the the direction that lamb morale is trying to take the organization innovation. You know so it was passion show it shows. It shows passion when we lost to the capital in the final season at the coliseum. In Two thousand fifteen fans will ripping seats out of the floor that people were calling and we were rowing left a couple years. No fucking when we were when we were winning that series. Two one right before war Wilson absolutely destroyed visnovsky career. And then you never ended up playing hockey again after that. And I'll never forgive John Wilson for that but during that season when he when when that when that choice was going absolutely crazy passion. That's what our families is about. It's like you're stepping into the jungle. We want to be the opposite of what Toronto Nucleus Fan did the other night where they they fucking did did a standing ovation because we heard his feeling. I mean there's right on were like we're we're behind you like we appreciate you. Come one of the most embarrassing things I've ever. We're seeing my wife. They put a spot on their guy more so than than people throwing things. There's come on. That's the softish I've ever seen they. They they called it and it was j out of the mayor's coming out talking about how much they love their player. Let the guy get fooled. Franken who would hate that man who would hate that my sock point in a city where fans just tell you how much they love you. That would say I'm not right. I'm saying that he should hate that. I'm I'm saying it's like from an outsider looking like Oh my God. We booed him too much. What are we talking about here? Got Really talking about feelings. Guy Makes ten dollars a year. Let them get food. Dude you can sell it like that but I don't think it was. I think it was just like yo he got booed. There's let's just show our appreciation for make Phil fucking make him feel at home maker. Thank you bye decision for like we gave them a couple of booze and his mom is like patting his thing. It's okay you're overhearing temperature before because he left. I mean like yeah you can look at anything both ways. But that's that's just the way I saw it. I saw it as like he came into our house. We we gave him the shit that that's what we're waiting to do. We expect the Johnson bears to be a franchise player. We expected him to be one. Rafter expected John. Here's problem the rafters hold on hold on. Here's here's the problem though Frankie I'm GonNa let you in on a little secret no player in the NHL at the Coliseum our building plan So all of a sudden they are denied. The Oakland Raiders Coliseum. It's not a tough fucking building to plan. You WanNa you WanNa talk about some tough buildings to plan. We can talk about that. The call seems not high on that list Biz. Where would you agree with seeing blue heeler river proposal? The reason I I don't think it was but they do rarely this kind. I mean it's not great for you but they've been so shitty for so so long that it's never really been like a crazy place now. Maybe yeah the other night I heard it was wild. But that's once once a season when when you're most hated best leader you ever add comes back to town right so listen I'm not gonNA say it's it's it's not like playing in San. Jose is like now. I was thinking of Monday night. I'm the first one who admit I. I went to every single game from when I was six years old when I was fifteen and I was sometimes the only person in the arena. who was actually caught him? Because you know you're talk about seasons when we put up I don't know I mean I I was looking at before. There was some seasons where this team put up. Sixty one points seventy nine point seventy three point fifty five points. Yeah I mean the product on the ice was never that great but when the team actually performs and when the team shows up there is really no place like the Coliseum. I mean I've never heard a place like that the other night it was absolutely dave port. Dont`a I've gone to Super Bowl that I've done to patriot. Games them playoff games. He said like he was looking around the place. You know this is fucking nuts okay. Very very hot play. The it is a passionate affair and go ahead no go ahead. It's when you played against the islanders and and you saw like empty arenas and stuff. Yeah that's that's that's just that's just like a product of the times when you know teams playing poorly I mean you know all right Carolina China you could probably find that in Florida when teams playing but added like the fan base gets affected. Frankie got understand though I also played in the colosseum the third last game of the season. Where if either team wins? They go to the playoffs and the ranger fans are a trampoline the islander fans and this building. I mean come on man you also this stop because we've been going quite a while here. I think you'd both bring up two points. I think these could bring hold on. I want I want. I want to go agreeing on one thing and I hope we're going to agree. Riyan this Frankie. How good was he policy? I yeah he was. He was a good player. He's a great player. May a little bit earlier in my time of like absolute fandom but writing that's true okay all right all right my guy would be Jason Blake and listened avery. I it's one thing I can end on. I just don't want to hear you talking about the damage because I just don't think you have any ground to stand on especially when you're talking about like morals and talking about like you know respecting shit so I respect expect you talking to me right now and hashing it out but it really pissed me off. If anyone in the last person I wanted to hear talk about respect from families for Sean fucking angry but right at that thanks for having me on good point. We're good points. I think both you guys make pleasure Sean. It's the entire athlete verse. Fan Fan mentality that I always wondered about and I think we're kind of getting a little bit of a glimpse. I mean frankly you came in. You're holding your own with your points against three. Former pro athletes got. Ra here too. He's pro something else and. I think that you did a good job. I still think you're nuts. And I think a lot of those people are dirtbags but good job nonetheless so thank you both the man those can they get in the same room. It's it's the first lies with those Deuba. Listen I WANNA talk to you about I behave in this went though gay everybody knows about the risks of driving drunk. You could get a crash. People could get hurt or killed but that still doesn't stop everyone. You could get arrested. You Concur Hughes legal expenses. You could possibly even lose your job. we all know the consequences of driving drunk. But one thing's for sure you're wrong if you think it's no big deal so drive sober or get pulled over this holiday season Nitsa. They want you to remember that plan ahead of. You'll be celebrating if you plan to drink plan for a sober drive at A. Take you home as you're trying to be designated driver take that role seriously and do not consume soon out hall not even one drink drive sober or get pulled over with Nitsa support. State and local law enforcement agencies across the nation is stepping up enforcement to put an end to drunk driving showing zero tolerance to save lives seriously. I don't shouldn't have to pay at this stage of the game not to drink and drive but it's foolish and there's no need fight so don't do it all right next up Pal Joe Vitale. He popped in talk about his former teammate. Sidney crosby he's got some good Intel on we played them for Awhile Josiah great guy great storyteller or as well so let's send it over to vitality on Crosby I remember I was a DJ. And I have a pretty game mix and we went on like on a sixteen game. Tear like streak and so I would keep the playlist same before every game and the first game of run. I didn't know what kind of role we're going to go on and playing Florence and machine. Gene dog days are over. He comes up to this great song. I go yes it's on he goes. I went to Italy last summer. And this is like my theme song for Italy. No ways we. We played on a trip. Awesome European Chevy tells the whole story. He goes out he gets a couple of apples. We Win I play the same song he comes up to the next games like. Hey Dude this was my Italian theme Doc. Swear to God I'm like yeah. Yeah I know you told me that already was. We went to Europe and he tells me story on my my are you. Are you nuts like you already told me the story in the we win again. This goes on for sixteen straight games. I'm talking month. We didn't lose these. These autobiography comes. You're going to tell the truth. I was like in every game I had to act like I've never heard this creek. Install Crema core. Finally we lose. It comes out to Iran on the song by animals right. I was just my dead Wednesday Zayd. I got the shrimp scandal. While you're like me being the team. Dj in Pittsburgh a guaranteed you at least ten more games because said how does playlist and you had to be there to play your song. I swear the Koshen pit play me. Because he's like no you gotta play Joe He's Dj. I need the songs like I mean I'm telling you right. I think so many players in the history of the penguins since two thousand five. Whenever he came in the League have done the I just have to make myself her? I said said to need me. I remember morals was. His roommate is rookie. I gotTa make sure he's like I need morals in my room like then I'll be here forever. I think there's been like over over fifty God's who've always thought just have seed need me I will never pay per paying the guy who has tried to become that guy and he's like awhile stumbles and drops his gatorade on rocky sweater. No fish fish like give me one. Second Healing to the coaches were also choice comes out and he gives you the old over here. No I swear to go. The my fault doesn't the nicest way he never demands anything like the nicest guy but you're right you just. Everyone wants to be invited to the party. It's unbelievable and next. Honestly one of the COOLEST entities. I think we've ever done. I've always wanted to drive the Pacific Coast highway. We got to do that while interviewing teddy per cell him. Bugsy Malone I it's a beautiful right of ever get the door just make sure that our office manager Brett's not pulling the strings or else she'll be driving in the doctor Doc till the wee hours of the morning but otherwise it was a fantastic trip in those two a carrot. There's no doubt about it so without further though is teddy and bugsy on the old P. C. H. Mr Whitney is our old friend of the program Teddy Pacelle. Thanks for bringing me into the show left in California it's the Oblast So-fi y'all left one. Only Bugsy Malone what's up there bugsy I'm having a great time our love your speaker voice right now and got us going in thinking aggie. I'll give them my full wing. Mind Bill on the last couple of days in L. A.. Recap that a little bit for the for the audience last couple. I say how about the bartender last night. Not Serving Ice and yeah so yeah. Let's go through the story to draw. Well listen I just set it up a little bit. We're GonNa have to tell the truth truth when bugs. He's done talking how okay anyway. Barstool desert right. They got the house here for the fellows. I got the camera crew. Everyone's together big happy family. Good good business. I love and I'm like all right. I'm gonNA maybe treat the boys tonight by a few cocktails. visit up the bungalow. Hello Bangalore I mean. It's a little bit of a dushi crowd so we fit in perfectly. Yeah when we had our we just did our own fun things. We did but anyway of Dana few he is around that. Are you know younger in life. Now they're kind of getting out exploring they get the view parcel cinema police fund trip so kind of teaching them. This little drinking game we play. Some golf drips so almost thirty nine two kids and retired so these trips on my schedule usually circle this green light. You give me the green or run the rid only one option the F. Baker Boys Biz mentioned. Hit before where we bumped into you in Vancouver couvert and I. It was a Sunday for me. I hadn't been going hard all weekend. Can these guys on the end of a bender. And I'm just trying to a couple of casualties and fucking ice keeps keeps getting scoop that on my drink. And he's like Jagger drank and bugs. He's a bully. So when he fucking you you do not a bulliest more fun please. Measure Masuma fun only fair enough fair enough to back this story. This story So rat and Dana Ena rettendon and Anneli. Obviously he's excited about this game so You said a little distractions when he was talking to Nellie then. I showed Dana Slowly speaking out. Take you about an alias. Glass because he was turned to the side right guard boys cheers and he goes to reach the glass and puts up. And then and you gotta finish you you know as means Chug automatically right away. It was more for the people that you know in the group that are probably heard in this holding it for like an hour. Then you look at them and it's like one ice hugh left you know that just been milken okay so and so two things here. You had a little pep talk with Dana and Brat who said Mom Dad yeah they can hang and you said No. You can't hang with you. I'M GONNA teach non thing. We didn't know his one getting really pushing the basics. Like I love this game. It's it's always like this team up and try to get some of the other guys so we started doing in fun sometimes even okay deploy your own ice out you little self inflicted pain. Well I mean I haven't I haven't gotten gotten in in long enough time. I need to get myself okay. So then you guys got cut off from getting icy. You know they're the bartender. Just having a good time with us all even the one the one one time like I took it out At the Bar I was I was brought over as a joke and the bartenders underserved him. No ice beyond I was like He. I just thought you cloud shots. Like they're like during soon. Saint Cloud Okay a little college reference mid the Mid West so if and and then to conclude the story ends up passing out on the beach or would you do you puked on the beach on the beach and And then Dana Ena wet the bed so he can join me in the bed wedding club which we're not embarrassed about. He says happens once a quarter. I would say that's how often happens to me once every two I I would say once every two months I mean this is these guys. They serious what happened for you. Sure everyone learn more for your up there like in your bed. Feel bad for the new people that Hang With bugsy lay got bugsy he's like see so tall so he's a man rock. He's got tattoos. Got This big grin. He knows he's stupid tricks and dance moves and naturally seriously Syria and guys like all man. Bugsy so fun I want to hang with tonight. I'm like dude you're GONNA Die Yourself. He's like what do you mean on my. We'll talk to more. You'RE GONNA get bugs zied off the bell. Many people in and one guy was puking on the beach talking to the way and wet in the bed and and the the usual Joel ending is him going out as a fun net feeling good and then he's like well you guys are young and they're like well and I'm like bugs. He's like well. I'm really tall to me. Bacon and a little better. I'll drink. I'll tell him break. Bread was like having wine. He's trying to smoke drink at dinner. It's ransom other figure that you don't want to switch Louis all these all these cocktails whether you pick your weapon employs just stick with the Time we talk about the golf club story you you try. Remind me about Eater I should say on the way home from the Gulf trip At the end of the night we run into you busy. Set US up in Vancouver the Vancouver you guys are coming down from whistler and we had to drop Mike. I don't know we had to drop Mike Smith off at the airport so we had to go a little extra like two hours out of the way to come back and as we're having a good time so usually these bus trips at the end there's eight of us to good crew. We've been drinking all week. Your wind down where you're just like last night as well uh flora. Yeah exactly so bugsy Florida. Bugsy made another rule for that. He's in his my favorite game. All can't wait for that so he's smart art though he knows before that they bear is going to be spilled. We're going to spray people. You're going to be sweating. You'RE GONNA be hot spray. The around our surroundings. Yeah it was just a bus. I know what you're saying. We're on a short bus. Was Perfect for us and bugs gets on there just in his underwear so then he was left golf. Von And we're we're drinking drinking offers left hand and he's like his right hand like animated stories and like Bugsy with under left head. Ed My golf club. This Madrid hand all day. He had his golf club on for six hours after the round only only left the drinking beers so then were going down. We dropped me off the airport. We come back and it's like so perfect so we like bugsy like he's a construction worker. Made strong gains. He's trashed so we get. We get out and we take a piss on the side of the road and only the stuff only happens of bugsy it's like my blowing replaces deserted and there's like behind dumpster. There's an old toilet to sitting there. Ready to get picked up bugs. I found a toy. Swirl over around the toilet pissing in the toilet it on the side of the road and we all run back on the bus like bugsy comes back on the bus last. Here's a pylon like four feet high. And he found a construction had that barely fit. It was like it it was like a Yarmulke on instead it was sitting on. Its head like this underwear and buggies church this then. The next thing you know the Pylon was disgusting was outside for turned into a funnel on the topic. I need you gear shift uh-huh sometimes in whistler obviously really it's not bumpiest hills and stuff sometimes it was flat but we're going flat too long budgies like Nope we gotTa Floor Pylon gearshift and then like get a little rowdy would spray. People were dancing. Where like all right? Let's blow back. Yeah so before buzzy chance to deny that story you told us about your electricity story in Collagen Elijah Muhammad Bin College scrapping pennies. Or whatever you can make work. You're making work This one we'd always stay up there in the summer and workout. Train gives summer jobs but the hockey house before us. The guys never paid the bill right. d'Electricite bill so as only by thousand bucks or something but we I mean none. None of us could find that so we ended up Ryan Extension Cord to our neighbor's house back sockets so then we hooked up accenture court all the way around back through our house to another accent hooked up to like a TV. A Mike Era Microwave and a light and one Lafayette one map. That's the way had also just like there's getting dark we gotta take laundry. He didn't we didn't do on your college ball never keep. I never did a sheets one time in college. Oh God college life sounds disgusting to me. Oh Yeah 'cause you guys all live in such healthy lifestyles are bill. MOMS will change our sheets that we've soiled in in in other things than cook meals on those teams about for my junior teams. I keep touch the few guys owledge just personally speaking like you go there. You were at that group of kids who get Greytown your life enjoying life you're all reaching reaching please goals in its You build up some friends that lasts a lifetime when you go to college if you're compared to me what was your. What was your summer job while you're at college He was Malone Chevrolet. Maybe we're we're we're like lawn. Fertilizer allegations of special. Interest those Biggie. Hey things and then we like throw the little pagan the ground up construction if we only worked till like halfway halfway to the goal of like making grant because then we know that. Can we'll take the rest of the summers we work. Then we quit halfway. You'd make you'd make money to my last job. We knew we had to make in there. That's good that's all. We need skills. A Bugsy where'd you park your Lamborghini when you went to the bar in Tampa I wanNA drive to the Barn Tampa. Whoops Bugsy with Lupus so ups- Ms this one for formula story with us? Bugger USA park his Lamborghini. He basically he was Batman and Tama. It was not so I don't know what really haven't been out through. Whatever go after Dorsey nowhere to park his car? That's why we were all the young guys. We were trying to be nice to bugsy because he was so nice to us. Hey We'll show you round listen Barwick. Ot Me so bugs at the rink in treatment after week we go home and change. I want to go to the bar. Bugsy has six thousand dollar three piece suit. It looks like James Bond all and he called the sudden like he had a Lamborghini so like this place is on the corner of the street. So you could hear it coming down like a half mile away. The only bugsy becoming all of a sudden of people like yeah. My friends come parking like yeah. The open windows bugsy honestly basically as he pulled into bugsy right by the bathroom he opened the door. And you could walk right in the bathroom. Bugs that no one's GONNA no. I'm here in a busy. There's you know he paid low. I don't even want to say the number so when he beeped the horn on this Lamborghini instead of keeping it goes those horn. The faulk got it that didn't happen. He's GonNa Deny Imagine Lakewood. Somebody cuts you off your the problem. Bugsy seems denial oughta stories so shy just says no and makes you look like a lie. That'd be open. He's opened up today. You make a horn singing whatever you want with. Anybody Meteorite bugs. Bugs is a guy that lives in the present. He used to take pictures of them too. Because I was I was like so funny. I'm trying to remember what he's doing he's like take my phone. Don't do that all right here. In your head telling them every living the president I mean I'd have to agree with Teddy. I got a document it and makes a mile. Speaking of Teddy is busy. Know Best We. I haven't talked about our Sunday when Ted it with the path. We haven't even our podcast. We didn't talk about the game recorded before the Paschi and that was a very very fun day ahead. He wants to tell everyone what you said when I asked what. Are you having the game today. It was like taking the pats that mahomes has been a stuttle year. But it's so hard bet against Brady and the playoffs and you think these guys are all coming in from Boston too so I wanna be on the same team as everyone and like cheer cheer together. You don't WanNa be at scumbag that like everyone else loses. So it's like you you take any action on the game today. I'm like yeah. I got a Toyota Corolla on in laugh on my oh shit that must mean money. No as it was taxiing what does he think that means how much he bet like what a Toyota Corolla cost. That's so fucking awesome. Yeah that is really bet it will. I mean so. That's a lot of money. I'm assuming closer twenty grand. That was probably the most nerve wracking game. I've ever watched watched though so funny. Like a daily reviews. I don't even have any money on him and I was ernest. You're sitting there just taking it all in the I mean bugsy we're kind of enjoying your guys ups and downs. But that's a big win. Any coming right back. Yeah right back down still just hammered in the hall of Famer. He's hungry but when he rookie year. That's what I'm feeling hall. We gotTA talk. It was the other black for the color of the Burgh. You bought a hummer my rookie out if I make the penguins in the NHL. I'm GONNA Buy Hammer. Yeah so my goal was yeah. Let's talk vehicle tougher resell too. I forgot about the story of me. And Bugsy Halloween gene in Pittsburgh might have been two thousand awful Mayaguez doing a big win home. We had the day off the next day. It was Halloween so like most of the team aim was going to I think they're going to dinner some but we ended up going to get drinks so as a nights winding down. And we're going to meet. Everyone diesel down the road. We're at a bar me. And Bugsy found I found the Wendy's girl like the the the hair like I just had a mask the Wendy's woman. But did you have the Burger King. And then bugsy so bugsy founder perking mass. We paid people like one hundred bucks each at the thing we were like I. We gotta go gotTa have a cost to them. We get to the bar. See the boys so we get outside or in the costumes. Bugs want to raise meter the days of by you bitch and just takes off sprinting down Carson street sound like aw Shit I gotta catch him. But I'm way behind him at this point so we're sprinting and people are gone because I'm you know I'm further back. He's running by people on that was Ryan and go. That's Ryan Whitney it's I'm sprinting. into the Wendy's girl. What are those things called? Tell us so more than one beats me. He beats me up and say he goes or handlebars beats me. He beats me diesel and I run up the stairs. I run trump. Says he's standing behind a wall waiting for a slice of pizza. I cut around the corner bar. Cheese pizza slaps me in the face. And then he's like fucking bitch. I won the race and only with this lab a pot tomato sauce all my face I get the locks talking and I'm just laying there. Bugs Burger King yelling Out Did you tell the guys who who you dressed as Wrexham's yeah one year I dressed up as bugsy following all the TAT. I got tattooed myself everywhere. Ah on a stupid curly hair wigs. He's to have long hair and I just walked around with a bottle of the. Yeah go take a shot on. We're trying to have fun. Come here and get booked out. He then we saved his head shaved. My ahead no way. Yeah thanks against those clowns. I know they'll be on the show again sooner rather than later so I sit tight. We'll have those two guys back Teddy. And Bugsy thanks again. I know. Listen I know this was relatively recent but I was such a bang of that. We're going to share with you again and that was Chris. Chelios is all a family. He reached out he wanted to come on the show. And when that happens you make space for a guy like Kelly and that's what we did so once again. I Pal Chris. Jellyfish retied no to you. Had Dave Dave Lewis for a couple of years. He lasted two seasons. Then you bring them Mike Babcock. I know that's a big subject we wanted to get to. What was that like going from a guy like Dave Lewis? It's it's a babcock and how was your initial relationship with Babcock initial go. Good right from the start Dave Lewis. You know he scotty tough shoes that follow in his defense. He didn't change it they yours. Great Guy. He was very good coach We had a lot of injuries injuries and a class and then the you know the started saying that there was a little too soft he was he was too attached to the players and he was just a good guy. A lot like Larry Robinson but That's when they felt felt they needed someone more strict and tougher on the players. And that's where baptized came in to Hiram I'm thinking to myself that down. Low that name I you know. I wonder if it's the same guy that I played against the show and he was playing in Saskatoon and McGill unsure as it was bad. So I'm God so our first meeting. He calls me innocence each other just purpose asset. No so you're you're just hurt his feelings and you know this. Is this GonNa go sell so you know. We planted a few beers and I happened to score three games in a row and then we clearly opener against other ten and you know we get the gambling or does that McCain calls me. That's obvious this after game or plus three and he says what do you think you're doing. I already talking about he goes. You're not here to score goals here here. You know play defense and Babysit Brett or at laptop I said Yeah but I've been plus all you know training camp and interrupting me right away says like it. You can go see Kenny Howard. I'm Sarah Trade. Would you and I went. Oh boy and so. That's what he came. You know the matter and I didn't want to leave the team. I Love Planet Short. I figure that lasted as long as it might survive about seven years. You know by just shutting my mouth during you know what I'm told you know what's come up here in Toronto and I'm sure there's a lot more set than I've heard Commodore you know leading the charts sugar coated and nothing. He went right for the the heart. And you know it's amazing you you know that this is all coming out of the players but you know it's coming back to heart babcock or you know not so much as coach and this is the way he treated people. Did you feel he treated you different. 'cause you're an American was Zada factor. All do you think no. I don't think because I was American. I mean we had a full-scale was American and he you know he chewed Rafi. Good where do you get them. Madonna was disrespectful already. Did that just recently spent on in Toronto. Like those things that are necessary. Like each of the healthy apiece craftsmen the outdoor game in Wrigley Field against against Chicago. Because he knew his hometown just seems there were so unnecessary At the show. He's the boss to show was general manager. He's the boss that he he's so I decided on a power thing as igl- that that's a big part of his his personality but Yeah I you know I unless I but some of the things the stories of what we tried to get rid of me like it's an unnecessary and and again you know Keenan like the the customs that you know he couldn't get a job in the NHL again and you know as bad as is taking an hour and all these stars that it might be the case with him now this coaching bill. And when you say he tried to scratch you what did you. Were you like no chance. Oh well trust be like I. I Know Kenny Holland and Jim Nill for three days argued with him. So Babb's ended up doing was he suited up seven. MVP for the first time. I've earned I the last time you suited up seventy put unders Lilly in the lineup and played me opening shift and then didn't play me another if the rest of the game. That was his way of You know showing Kenny and Jim Bell. He's not going to be told what to do. again and you know it's funny. There's secretary my two sons were about or defeat. Sit on the boards. And they're looking at me going what's going on and look at them. I tip my glass like you know my Cup Cup to get me a beer. So my two boys or handed me beers at the whole game and then machrihanish either get me. Go out there and last minute to kill a penalty. I said not a chance so all it was just stuff like that. So unnecessary anybody GonNa Piss all over myself one of one of those and the best thing that the best thing roller up seven three at the time and and criminal or nothing to do with it. I didn't know you know what was going on until about seven minutes. Eight minutes into the TYRIAN and beast. I just came down to me and said look you told me not to play and I'm like okay. You know I'm not holding them responsible so but I knew I knew you know stuff way I do. You know where it was is coming from. Obviously and it's just like you said this stupid things like that now. It's you know obviously coming back to haunt them and you know we'll see some crazy enough to hire and again. Do you think it goes back to that first. Comment if you not remembering playing against him no he had it out for me from the beginning you know regardless of that I could tell like just this don't worry as as mannerisms towards me and You know practices stuff. He tried to again. He tried to get me to react and but like I say I did everything he told me. We didn't have It wasn't like we had a bad relationship. You know he was. You know we're cordial to each other all the time because like I said that's how I was raised as a deal as as a kid you know. Just whatever your boss says you do but Again he wrecks on the Gecko whip regardless of that meeting. Well I mean I would imagine you probably saw some other nasty stuff like who. WHO's one of the guys that he just picked on the worse? And have you ever seen anyone you know getting a a pretty tough place mentally because of it. Yeah I I think that that would be Johann Franz and What he did to him at the end You know he was hurt. At the time. I was a ploughs we lost basketball. We've got upset with Nashville. And some of the things he said to him on the bench. I don't know what he said to them. Behind closed doors on blatantly. You know verbally ably assaulted him. During the game on the bench I got to the point where towards Johan you know. No one really daunting that he was suffering with the concussion thing. And and the depression thing He's just broke down and had nervous breakdown not only on the Bachelorette after the game and one of the rooms national so that was probably the worst ever seen. What what are the vets? Go in and say they go fuck you babcock because I know a guy like Lidstrom. I'm sure he's fairly noncontroversial and doesn't want to ruffle feathers because he's also got to worry about his job. Eh You know did a leadership group step up at that point. Not really you know know you guys talked obviously it might each other but When something did happen and and there were some second guessing and it got to Kenny? Kenny Hallam came down to the room and have his speech and supported. Mike Babcock. It was a great speech but that you know the tell everybody in ruined. You know if you don't like it you could be traded from up and see me betray so that was kind of added But Yeah Nick. Listen listen wasn't going to do that. That wasn't in his demeanor. is e you know we won that year You know I think I played a year for him baby too and it never got at that point there yet where he had really started to be that person that if he turned into about cock with the wings so Again I mean it was just a really the guys were so respectful. Doubt suits out of her. You know and again like so many others. Just shut their mouths and did that with their tolls will. It's crazy to due to think that people bring up the the the Olympic golds in the company away. Well you could put a giraffe behind the bench in that team right. I mean how the fact fact you were able to win it with a guy. People hated plan for that much shows. How talented the team was Yup? I've set up and you know Canada's got the horses this is the predominant and talks about Pat Grin. Being a great coach but shot went in that like he did in Salt Lake. They weren't playing well up to the medal rounds. Let's look at tax credit where and with that team accomplished in Salt Lake. You know we I. I wouldn't say we're the famous team but we're all we're playing amazing and and look what they did to us and that gold medal game or tournament has ever been involved with with the greatest players and again back to your point you know. A lot of guys indulge Steve Is. Ko Put Babcock in that and that's in that position to succeed obviously like any other coach back to that. Oh eight season as an Celli. You played sixty nine games that season. Nice and he played fourteen more in the playoffs including five of six in the Western Conference finals but then the cop comes around and he helped bombs you for the whole the whole Stanley Cup final. Did he give you an explanation. How pissed off where he will be what? How did that whole situation play out? I was at that point. I'll never forget that we just the Dallas In the semi's I don't know if we swept them But we hadn't had a penalty on penalty killing me hadn't had a goal scored against this throughout the series and I was saving After the game and he just walked in and said you're done that's the last game you're playing I didn't even get a chance to reply And that was how it went. So I'm thinking okay maybe a game you know we'll see how it goes and what and you can't second guess but yeah he just caught caught me off guard and point being that. I'M NOT GONNA start. Obviously I never did before. I just wanted to win the cup. You know still big part of the team gene Eagle Turtle Little Bit. I didn't have no feelings. I guess if I had any It was I was in shock but here we want it and I didn't care that's all celebrate the guys and you celebrate the city it was. It was amazing at that point. Did you feel that you should have the lineup. Then suspect guys at were the lineup and then the following a year got yanked to some obvious you always. I feel like you could help the team when you had not won that year he I probably maybe center. I don't know if I would have earned out but again here we did lose like I said I wanna you know say this guy that should have been but I I really feel I should. I could've helped and you know not getting the opportunity opportunity that was you know a little bit but again. That's why club Chris. Jealousy jumping on with US man. He was He came as advertised ties. 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Discipline vs Punishment

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Discipline vs Punishment

"Stopped top. Is Your. Data at the. leppings point apparition tool de la tour. Over computer your. To, her stop five. Breaker already McClintock at. Every you to touch inputs of the maker pocket. To. Pay. Was your whole? Life. Next Fatherhood Fridays season for. y'All can you can hear you loud Glen. Just excited excited this week man I been trying to get this brother on air. Well. I can tell you for sure that there are no perfect parents. And you know I think one of the biggest challenges I think promotes the DADS in general is that parenting you? You sense it? It's one of the most critical rose that you're gonNA play in like. My My feelings on that. He's got so far. Shallow greetings welcome. Peace my brother. Welcome back to the Fatherhood Friday season for. With your hosts always charmer I'm doing good doing great. How about you? Man. What is there to talk about? There's always so much to talk about as a parent as a father has a dad and the stepmother as a mother has a grandpar- on T. oncle hopefully I covered everybody listening or maybe just a young man young woman. The seasons are changing folks. And we are now into virtual homeschool. been doing it a couple of months now and I didn't realize I was going to be the teacher coach. To janitor the lunch lady. All these things going in my house while still managing to do my own job at work and I know if I'm going through, you're going through and just like me and so. Today we're going to be talking. About. discipline what is disciplined? Well, we think discipline we the first thing we think of is spanking or. Or? Get you know grounded what is the difference between discipline and punishment? How do we train our kids in this day and age I don't have the answers to all of this, but we're going to gain some wisdom. And we're going to gain knowledge and we're going to gain some insight from Philip Smith Junior Pastor of Colorado Christian Fellowship, and so. Wherever. You listen to make sure you got a strong connection. For this episode, I usually say Termi of what's the point of tournament up if you connection as strong because if you connections not strong, you'll get ten minutes into the episode it will drop and you'll think something's wrong on my in but really in. But I digress. And so as we listened to him and I, pick his brain this is going to be a good episode. I've learned a lot from it and I'm hoping you do the same and so I'm GonNa Queue this up. And I'M NOT GONNA waste any time but what you can do As a favor to me. Is, if you liked this episode, any episodes from seasons one to three or four you can copy and paste. Resend it to somebody else attacks email or however. You can subscribe or follow me on the podcast platforms available to you spotify apple podcast, Google podcast stitcher breaker. Cast Barks. Bullhorn radio public list goes on and on or you can go to Google right now type in fatherhood, Fridays? When you see Fatherhood Fridays Anchor FM DOT COM and it pulls up click on it. Go to support you can support me anywhere from ninety nine cents to four ninety nine to nine nine nine will be greatly appreciated and that's how we keep this thing going expanding into different states and now different countries wouldn't believe. And so I want you guys make sure your signals at a four or five bar allow me to re introduce. Pastor Philip Smith Junior. Discipline versus. Hey, there. Right, you you are live. How's it Goin' pastor feel. Well and I just so blessed that you're having me on your podcast today topic couldn't be more. More relevant in these times as you pointed out, I'm doing great. All right there. So so today we're we're kind of talking about. Discipline. Punishment. You know how does the Bible seeing? How God had a bob the. A. Bit Person To talk about it because. Just, as well as myself you had A. facetime. Talking about different subjects. kill taming the church pertaining to light. Endurable and so on. How the right way. Discipline Art Children and what that is. So. It's the listening to this. PODCAST would very first time and they don't know. You WanNA explain a little bit of you are. Oh absolutely yes. So You know I have the privilege of pasturing. Colorado Christian Fellowship in Aurora Colorado just there in the suburbs here in the suburbs of Denver and the Denver area and When after twenty, one, twenty, twenty, two years actually. Nurseries. and so my wife and I. Is. A labor of love for us to blessing. And it's been awesome. I have two children have had the privilege of raising two children. my daughter is thirty three, I believe I think that's I think she. She. Yeah and She has two children. So I have two grandchildren. I have a grandson who is six years old. Granddaughter who's four and So that's my daughter she's married with children. And with those children and then I have a son who is twenty, four years old and He is in medical school. He's married as well but no children He's in medical school at the Mayo Clinic. He just started this year and married to a wonderful wonderful wonderful woman but they have no children. So I'm blessed to have two children who are married to believers and Mary to wonderful people And like I said, the two grandchildren. So my wife and I are empty nesters. So we have plenty of time to reflect on Aaron. Our kids are up and out the doors so. Yes. So mean what what that person talking about it because. Bothering a dad now or no thirty plus years, and now your. Grandfather's web right and so you talked about you know those early years of. You and your wife. started. Having children and what that experience was like where you. Where not? Back. Well. You know it's interesting because. Looking at all of that in retrospect. I can say that I was more prepared for parenting than I felt that I was prepared at the time. I, you know every Eric looks back over you know they're parenting. Their parenting variance and we all none of us are perfect than have some regrets kind of wished. We did things a little bit differently. I? Will say one thing I had said to my wife when we first got married before we actually had children I said the one area of my life where I do. Have a whole lot of regrets if. in is in the area of apparent. I in a book that didn't. Lift that You know didn't didn't travel to certain places. I can live with that didn't make certain amount under save a certain amount for retirement. I can live with all of those things but the thing that I did not want to have to endure. was. Sitting on a park bench one one day with my wife and reflecting on how we raised our kids and you know and and having to endure a whole lot. I went into marriage sort of saying you know parenting has got to be right. It's gotTa be right because I just can't live with it. This my kids don't turn out well. It was a high priority for me having sick that. Becoming, apparent terrified I'm terrified. So here we go to these people and my wife and I are. Followers of Christ. So the first and foremost thing was you know how do I? Raise my children. That's the first and foremost question because it might if I can raise my children to love God. Then a lot of the other step parents struggle with with their children just kind of fall in line and so Never painted before while we parent usually none of us we don't have any experience parenting. Before we assume that job and it is the most important job of human being has to do. The most important job is. Raising another human being. Yeah. So that's a little bit of kind of how I started. But I I. Had I had some good mob. I will say this you know my parents were not perfect as most parents. My family was just as dysfunctional as the next family I. I always say you know when people say, Oh, you know, hey, it's your family dysfunctional virus boys. You know look everybody's families dysfunctional because no families perfect. It's just a matter of degree so. My family had exterior dysfunction but I had a mother and father the home. you know, and so they weren't perfect. Parents, but you know I have a nuclear family that had both father and muttering. And so I had I had that kind of Support Yeah I mean that's I. Mean. That's Definitely, offer down. As Cow having both parents in the home. Let's as zero in on this idea of. A disciplined I mean, people use disciplined punish me consequences. CADDO interchangeably can't you speak up on? The underlying differences. Biblical meetings. Absolutely ammunition and quite frankly this is one of my favorite topics because. What I'm about to say doesn't just apply to parents it applies to. Anybody who's in a position of leadership Pastoral Ministry. I mean the principles that that? I, want to kind of throw out there for our discussion are just relevant beyond parenting, but they are certainly important with respect to raising kids. And you know before we get into how we discipline and you know what tools we use the first question I think that parents need to ask themselves is. What is the objective? Okay. What impact as a as a godly? Parent. What does God expect need be Striving for before, we say you know before we look at the tools to. The question. The question I is wall. What is the goal? So the goal of. Goal of all parenting and especially since this is. This is Fatherhood Fridays which I love. I love that. One verse out of a Thesis Chapter. Six Chapter six. Verse Four I'm sorry. A. Visa Six and four it says fathers do not exasperating your children. Bring them up in the training and instruction. So. Right. They're all in one short bursts. It speaks directly to your audience today At least topic it speaks to fathers. And it's a fathers. This is what you do and this is what you do. Here's your goal. Right? It says don't exasperate the children did look the word up but I think we all kind of. Don't get rotate, frustrate unnecessarily anger provoke your children they'll unnecessarily. And we'll come back and talk about pets parents doing nap. Here minute but I can tell you that parents struggled. You know set nick kids off or poking now. Angry kids because parents are in their own stuff but it says here, don't do that the focus or the goal of bother who here is to. Instead it says, bring your children up in the training and instruction of the Lord. So what is the goal of parenting which obviously includes bothering? Your children, it's teaching. It's teaching them something not just anything teaching them the ways of the Lord so the. Of Parenting. Before. We get to how you. The goal of parenting. is to. Raise, children. Who? Knows God. If their lives according to God's plan. And I think a lot of parents. A lot of parents going to parenthood. The goal is I mean, even Christian parents they just have kids and. Think that their kids born into their family to entertain them and you kind of like having a pet. Up. That some parents just have kid. Oh, I, want to know what it would look like. You know how much am I can I pass on I? mean. The parents have all come. For having children and yet in scripture, the only reason to have children is so that we can raise those children to serve God and live their life. the way God. Would have them to live it. So that's the goal. How get there? Let me see because you used the term punishment. Well. Just, define a correct me if I'm wrong. Disciplined because I. Think. Discipline as you put tweet. righty trading. Right. Right and so has paired. With now we have a clear understanding of what disappointed. A lot of times discipline is you're grounded alert. excited. Like that but it we're following the Bible. It's it's saying teaching training. The more. Right I mean the object of what ever. Parenting style we choose good veteran different whatever parenting style. Scripture says, the goal needs to be, as you pointed out training that job and so so we our. Parents are teachers and I. think that's another way of looking at A father is supposed to be a teacher. A mother is supposed to be a teacher was supposed to be teaching that child by Walgreen's say by what we do by the fire, we raise them and we are supposed to be teaching that child that got exist. Who He is and how to live for him. Okay. So that Right. That's our goal. So when we start trying to think about what parenting styles are most affected In the short answer is the parenting style. We see God. K. So, if we're going to. Adopt a parenting style. Let's start by looking at how God our bother. US because that's what we're supposed to be doing with our Cheddar. Okay. So So. Yeah. Yeah. So we don't. We don't look over here this booker this seven steps. You know this person who has some ideas on what parenting should look like I mean as irs we look to the ultimate parent who has got okay I think we've got understand about how God trains. One think I think we gotta understand it. Influences and control. Influenced and knock control for example. And in remember at the outset of my comments, I said these principles ministry applied the whole lot of other management on your. Corporation or whatever. If, you want to be an effective trainer or leader. then. You have a choice between trying to control people's behavior. Or influence people's behaviour. Kind of the difference enforced in power if you. Yeah exactly. I mean. Control. Because that's what they were raised in there. Don't even know it's not like they consciously say I want to control nights did maybe some facts do both parents? OPT for the default to this sort of control thing I want you to you. Know I want you to do right I. Want you to make good decisions I want you to you know WanNa serve God whatever it is we're trying our child to do most parents default to control. A couple of reasons why one is because that's is passed down from generation to generation most families. Most human beings unfortunately in a fallen world are all about trying to control a manipulate being to get them to do what they need to do. And the other reason why I think control becomes a default for people is because it's just easier it's easier to tell your child go. Work and if you don't do your homework, there's going to be some sort of artificial consequence, right? L. War you know you don't get to go out and play if you don't. So. There's nothing what we talked about consequences in a minute, but control is when you are trying to get somebody to do something. Bypassing their free will and free choice. Okay. So. If I want trawl Mer to do something. And I- timid him with beer or manipulate you with the promise of goodies. And, I'm doing that so that I can bypass your freedom of choice I have stepped out of. God's. Plan for how you change. God is not a control. Control in the Bible is described essentially as witchcraft. Any I'm you try to control a person, which is violate their freedom of choice whether it's a child. You are stepping into around. That is the dark side. It is not God God. Is the most powerful person. You know in in all of creation writing, he wasn't created, but he's the most. and. Yet God does not control people. If he did sometimes I wish control people you know. I mean we'd have a lot less problems. Just, said like a pond you. That He does not controlled by he's given. US. All free will. He respects this centerpiece of of humanity being a human is that we have free will when we violate another person's freedom of choice they have free will we are fighting? The God doesn't do and we should do it, and as parents we have to keep that in mind. So what's the alternative to control the alternative is implants Is. Getting, somebody to do something. Make a choice. Because that person respects you so much that welcome your advice. Counsel and influence. As good stuff. Then that's good stuff and I think you know we talk about. Talk of how you know. The money in days at Nacer. How do we dad the rest from world? Mean parenting or discipline. Well in you know and you know as we move along here, we'll talk about the demonstra punishment. And true discipline or true. True. True. Parenting Starts with. Obvious, right you can't listen. Let's. Let's look. Let's look at another topic where God tells a man to do something right and tells him do it this way with the way I god tells husbands, for example, Lobe Your Wa. As Christ. Loved the church. So God says. I want you to love her but I want you to love the way you WanNa lover I want you to love her the way that I love. The church. So the only way, you can learn how to love your wife according to God is. Love, you same thing with parenting. God says Tarit your. Children. As I'm parenting used. So anybody that really wants to. Be Successful as a parent and do it God's way they need to have a relationship with God. They have their own they have to enjoy. A fathering relationship with God that's why the expert got vision. You pray come to be our father. So ignored me father and that has to be more than just sort of religion. I go to church and I tried to Christian beliefs it has to be the sense that. Bothered disciplines me. He trains me he space me. He encourages me. You know when I say spanks I put that in quotes you know he he he allows consequences in my life. Because he's So when you're fathered by. and. You allow that to happen. Then you have a ready example. Your children. And and I think the second thing that people do aside having a relationship with God a. God. They need to study people need to research undestand parenting is not. It's not. It's not something. And we've all grown up in dysfunctional homes, and so we have poor examples, poor models. So if a person really wants to do this, right, they're going to have to crack their boggles open read a book written by Pete. Partner Balcony and get the information necessary to be a good parent because we're not born with the simplification. It's IT'S NOT A. So that. That's that's where we start. It's GonNa take some work. You've got to put the work in me. Definitely, you definitely have to put work into digress. From what wall? Ready? Or from what Bar Brady Broke up. Right you know because a lot of times when you're trying. and T shirts out in the way of the Lord. You. Everybody has. Say. We didn't do it that way. Or? What's wrong with the switch off the trees? This added. Kinda feel like. People. You know know what the goal of parenting is, which is what we talked about at the outset. If people know the goal, then they can sort of filter through all of this advice about how They will is this really going to get to the goal so it might go. is to train as it says, Fijian's if my goal as a father is to train and instruct a child in the Lope. Then the question be that's my goal. Then the question becomes when somebody says Oh, you know take a switch off the tree or use time out or you use the promise of an ice cream cone when people start it giving you advice about how you parent the question becomes how close is this? This tool this advice going to get me towards the goal. Of having my trial no God love God and act like. So. If the child is going to get you to the goal of loving, God? And getting him to athlete God then maybe you should do that. Hello. I. Don't think that's going to cause a child is a love daughter when apple. Got and. Give a lot of folks who arrays with. Just a lot of physical parenting stuff a lot of punishment. and. They don't love God because the person that was inflicting pain on them claim to be doing it in the name of God. So now these are they don't want anything to do with. It so again. Does the propose. Tool or Wait out parenting. Does it reach the biblical goal of having this child? Wants to be in relationship with God and want to obey God. So you know there's the thing look at the word. The word discipline. If. You look at that word it comes. It's it's the same route that we get words like disciple. which we think about a disciple is someone who is in training. Somebody's a disciple of Mark King or decide. That needs it is a person who is learning new disciplines. Those two words disciple indiscipline have the same route. So here we are again right back to a fees and six and four that says parenting is about training it is teaching children new. Disciplines in life that will cause him to succeed disciplines like self control. Like treat other people the way you want to be treated like saving money for retired. Living within your means, these are all light skills. Light disciplines parents supposed to treat. Is supposed to. Train, their children, and so if you understand the work discipline that way. Then you know that certain types of behaviors that people call disciplining children. Are. Just not affected are just not. Sal and you know, and this is why we have kids running amok and parents frustrated. Because their kids are turning out the way they want to turn out. Well, let's let's really look at what the work disciplined needs here right Discipline is about training. Then, you're looking at a whole `nother category of actions as a parent if discipline is about simply punishing child. And getting that child to. something. By basically inflict pain on the child who are timid. If that's what you're if that's what that's all about which. That more control than it is. If it's a bow. SCHMOR- rather than teaching and training. Then you're going to end up with some really bad results. I don't. Think, directly. answered. DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PUNISHED ME? I think one of the underlying themes. Is. Doing punish. Dash you are anticipating. Wages in the Bible. Awards I have the. Pushing in that direction. Then apologised. Is Ovais would you? Yeah I mean absolutely and so so here's the thing. That are that we taught. It was called. It was a parenting class called love. Latin. Love. Yeah, they sat in the school and so you're. Aware of it. It's been around for years. And that you can summarize philosophy of love of love and logic this way first of all, it is based on how Wagner. huggag. How God. How does God God teach. How does he decide? Well, he uses love. And logic. All right. So here's here's the summary of what lobby. Sickly God allows natural consequences. Of Our choices to be our teacher. Though for example, if I decide that, I'm willing to steal as a way of making. And God wants to teach me Xiao. Shell. He'll. Go. down. And smack me around. You know you know inflict arbitrary came on me to teach me Knoxville. What he does it s he allows the natural downstream consequences of my choice. To, teach me the logic of not steal. God's. That's the difference between a para who's like, let's say, let's bring this. Parrot tries to the child and do their homework. And the old punishment controllable mindset is. Do Your Homework and So they can pick and choose to do that which by the way, all produced a hatred in child for homework in. Edgy. No, wonder the kid doesn't want to college kid as low desired into anything because you know. The. Education was associated with just arbitrary pain and violence. All right. So it's not going to produce the result a kit make for a season. But soon as the parents aren't looking or they graduate from high school, they never pick up another book that's not what the parent wants so they. Lose between. Inflicting sort of Arbitrary Kane on the child that has nothing to do with homework. War they, can, somehow. Natural consequences for. Not Doing Homework. To Be the child's teacher so that the kid sees built lot. Behi- Doing your homework the reason you do it. And the reason just can't because mom's GonNa hit because guess what mom's around and nobody ever hit me that I'm not going to do. So that's a poor parent. So. Downstream consequences. Okay. You didn't do your homework. You got bad grade. You know you may end up having to stay after school because you didn't do your homework. Wednesday night when you were supposed to do it. So now you have to do your homework on Thursday afternoon during recess that is a natural consequence. You didn't get something done when it was supposed to be done. So now it's got to be done, and so now you're an intuition where you have to make a sacrifices something you would otherwise have because you didn't make a good choice before and when the parent connects those two things for the time. They are to connect. Anger and all of that that makes it about them. You know like they see you don't get to go out and play tomorrow. That's you're now into control and intimidation punishment because now you're making the consequence about. It shouldn't be. So the parrot descend to the child you know I'm so sorry man I like the play I know like to hang. It's bombers get this homework during playtime now so that the child is not focused on the parents anger, they're not focused on some arbitrary paying inflicted by the parent. On the choice they made and how illogical it was if i WanNa, play that I wanNA make sure that I get my homework done but I can use my playtime replied time. That's an example of love and logic. You lovingly come to your child and say. Really sorry that story that. Made. This choice and I guess we can have to do without playtime I suppose, sorry, it has to be that way, and then the child sits back incision. How Angry. Not. Throwing furniture around. That choice. So I'm not GonNa make this choice again. Right right right right right. and. So the onus for the oldest child instead of making it about. Exactly. That's London logic and isn't that how God works though I mean isn't that influence and not control. You're not trying to control them with anger and pain arbitrary painted which. You're just simply saying, wow, you know what? Here's the deal if I were you johnny I think. Differently, I think I would probably like my horse. Every night and get it done well. You know so that you have time to do these other things that that would be my advice susie if I were to do this over again. So you're asking now you're the kids not make doesn't see that it's about you. The kid is able to take your advice. Your. A to influence. Own Choice as opposed to you taking the choice from the child. And parents who take choice. With arbitrary punishment and train the Child Way what They are not teaching that child headed make good decisions for themselves. And when they go off to college, they go back while when they get out of the church that they grew up in, they run away from God because after all the decisions they were making up until they had their own independence were all about somebody else as opposed to them learning the good. Rationale the logic of making a good choice. That's what parents have to do that influence. Yeah I. Listened. Tear play. Devil's advocate a little bit here. People use the scripture. Talks about how? Spare the Rod. Right and what would you say? Well what I would say, there's a lot of scripture in Bible, old and New Testament where metaphors are used to describe. Some behavior and we don't get so caught up in the metaphor. That we lose sight of the message, right so when I hear and so that the person will come back to that right quick beliefs. I. One other. Whenever, we're interpreting scripture we have interpret scripture light. So. Let scripture interpret scripture so if I am looking at a scripture that that seems to suggest that I should beat down my child. You know that I should take a rod off the. Tree and the top out and I'm reading that we the only way I. is by looking at all of scripture and say, would that interpretation be consistent with everything else scripture says about God and parenting and if and if if the answer is no, then I misinterpreting the past so I just say applying that to that scripture If we take that scripture to mean that we can just Willy Nilly inflict pain on our kids and and you know physical pain ahead. Tag. then. We've got look at all the other thing that we see. God. Apparent. We have to look at God's nature and his character. Stirs like the one we talked about earlier with goal is to train and all of that and say, does God really being is this really is this God saying you know what you're right? That is not what he's saying the raw represent correction. The Rod represents discipline and don't discipline your children. Then you will ruin and parents who engage who don't discipline their kids. Regardless of what form of discipline take parents whose oil the kids? Don't hope you know hold their kids accountable don't teach their kids. Not Love and logic. Will spoil their kids will ruin their children. Okay. So that's all that same. It's tell you how to discipline your children. It's simply saying that he failed to do. So there's GonNa be a consequence and it's going to be the destruction of. Right. So the Rod of correction is, is used there. I believe as a metaphor now having said that I believe that it is wrong to you know. Swat your little one on the guy or you know, Sylvia. When when our kids were young, she used to have a little wooden spoon. and no, she would swab him on the on the diaper. Annoyed that kind of thing. But the goal was not to inflict pain. And to expressed dissatisfaction with what they're doing, and so when kids are really small, they're not they're not. They don't have the logic, they don't have the capacity. For. The kind of logic a child develops as they grow through. Through elementary school, Middle School, and high school right so when it really really young and you say, you know to a real real small kid take one cooking too. You know the kids really really small they. They don't have the capacity to have a conversation about the logic of that choice. I will eat more than one cookie. Is GonNa. Make you sick or whatever it is. Whatever conversation and And so you know. When kids are really young and sometimes you have to clean. Sort of these arbitrary consequences like a pat on the bottom because they'll understand that right quick but again. You're doing that with the goal of obstructing child and training the child how to make good decisions and as the child grows, you're standing you migrate more towards. Another words. Creating so much respect. For you in the heart, the child that when you speak to them about something, they're likely to agree with you more likely to trust you believe you. So. With respect to raising my kids to love God, I did not. Come I think you should do this just saying we didn't do this whole lot. We didn't have Bible studies sift down every week put the kids quote scriptures and. I, didn't my kids saw be preaching to them on Saturday. On. Sunday I was also pastor. But we didn't do a whole lot of that I did quoting, scripture Leptin, Ri- didn't do all of that. What Sylvia did what I wife and I it was live out. Christ in front of them. And they saw a benefits they saw peaceful home their parents were perfect. But they saw provision they saw love they saw joy and when it will go to other people's their friends houses, they see all. So. Never come home. I was just make sure they understood. You know what? It's pretty logical to serve. God right look at you have and look these these other kids, friends of yours who are not living Christian. Hoff. So you might WanNa think about doing your life to Jesus to your decision. Whatever you decide is on you and I have made ours you can make your. and. Then live out. Such A. A model in front them. That it just seems logic like it's it's like anybody who doesn't serve God is just gotTa be crazy I you. Look at can say s o Mike You. I mean they married people who love God and you know and. Definitely. Set A lot. And I mean I think? That I just took from arts and is that being? In more of a teaching than it is what you're saying. Those. Living that example in teaching them more than what you're saying it's so. Maybe have. One or two more questions because I feel like you kinda answered a lot of them Abacus. Endear. Early on. Do Struggle. In training. You know I think somewhere in mind I knew the most important thing for me. was that my kids would grow up to look up. To be to me and I'm not trying to offend anybody I'm just telling you when you wear my was at the time and how I feel about it. To me the worst. Consequence. That a parent can ever feel is is to raise of to be a Christian and raise your children and your kids just don't serve. God. And I just felt like that is like the worst thing if I stand before God and he's My Life. I know that failing as a parent isn't gonNA keep me from spending turney with Jesus because you know what that decision is covered the blood those decisions are coming into the blood too but that's like a common. One half to me. The biggest thing failure in life would be to raise kids and then not happen blow the Lorca something wrong there. and so that's always been a part of my heart. And I knew almost intuitive that. If. I was going to get them to love God I was going to have to live it out. For Them Kim Cry. that they were going to have to see see it and you know and and so I had to let my love speak louder than my voice. And so I did spend a lot of time. I never beat up on the kids with scripture. You did this guy doesn't like them because all you're doing is making a kid hate God. and feel condemned by God. Then their face when they make a choice, I don't do back a logic guess what God's it Thou shall not steal. And so that's logical choice. But you'll feel the logic that you have to spend the night somewhere because you shoplifted or whatever and. But my thing was I just wanted. I knew that my kids were going to get the message and see the logic of it. If. They saw. My choices in action and the fruit of my choices in action. So when I came to my kids and said, I wouldn't do that. Get my is is the set other. My kids would gobble up my thing. I mean I'm not saying this to pat myself on the back and my kids at their and just kind of being. Bellies Stinky because they're human beings. My kids took my vice period. They just did they took by advice on the Mary. You know they're like, wow, you know they grown the do it every two that's true. They can't. But if you if you built a relationship with your kids on influence from childhood. They're gonNA come to you even as adults and say I know this is my choice. But what would you do dad and you have this why an open opportunity now to just You know. Parents. Because the influence they know that you're not gonNA, grab the steering, wheel their life and try to control them they just they just they. They're like, well, your mass daddy thing because at the end of is going to say you can do it if you want to use what I would do. They look at my life and say while he's not perfect he seems to be making good choices here. All this stuff that seems to be leading his decisions seems to have turned out well for him. So I think I want. I mean, that's awesome. Because a lot of time. In Culture Society people have the? Cliche all the past kids all the worst ones. Here to hear that example I know. Maybe you don't say put that. You know from time to time like older pass. The worst ones attitude. What you're saying, you'll have the influence that they still come to you and they're. Well into their adult speaks volumes. Trading, your child is such trae your children. Wake that they they still have a lot of respect for the US data and evening your wife, and so I know week to spend on the phone on day. One one last question for you what's one or two things? One League? With the Father's dad or even mothers that. podcast right now. Wow, I mean sort of one thing that would be kind of Yeah Okay I think that they once functioned one main primary principle is. A own the message of your life. The message open your mouth will not be heard until till. Children's see the message of your life and to your point earlier about me being a pastor look like it's on the preaching on Sunday and so if I came on Monday and acted like the world, my kids would have decided you know what? It's not logical to serve got because people who claim to serve really are not doing it. It's all fake. So I had own the message of my life, my kids had to see living. And it, which afforded me the opportunity to not have to lecture them all the time from scripture and hit him over the head with the Bible because they saw me I would say to parents. Can't take shortcuts here you got to do the hard work of living what you want them to learn live what you want your children to learn and and and emphasize that as opposed to. Relying solely on speaking what you want them to learn the old parents used to just blatantly say growing up as kids parents used to tell the kids look do what I say not what I do. Well, all you're doing is conceding defeat and surrendering bacillus? Portent weapon in training child in the nurturing admonition of the Lord, and that is the weapon of your life and how you live in their present. You heard it. Live. God's. Own Own your life in such a way. Kids WanNA follow. This has been another episode of Fatherhood Friday. Four with the holes chalmer and after. and. We're off. On your heart if this. Was, as moved you in any way can. By going to eight GREG DOT COM. Bothered by donate meeting wear or ninety, nine, hundred. Be Sure to be clear this and like I say subscribe Robin Number Ways we are on a Lot of by Apple, podcasts will ask breaker bullhorn. Cast Bach. Overcast and the list goes on and on so failed them we will talk to you later and I appreciate having you on today. Amen. Thank you for having me. All right talk to you soon. Okay, godless. Hey you out there voting isn't just going to the poll. On. Election Day anymore options like early voting Mellon. 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"Stopped. Top. Is Your. Data at the. leppings point apparition tool de la tour. Over. Computer your. To her stop five. Breaker already. McClintock at. Every need to touch. Of the, maker pocket. Was your whole. Life. Next Fatherhood Fridays season for. y'All can you can hear you loud. Glen. Just. excited. Excited this week man i. been trying to get this brother on air. Well I can tell you for sure that there are no perfect parents. and. You know I think one of the biggest challenges I think promotes the DADS in general is that parenting? You? You sense it? It's one of the most critical rose that you're gonNA play in like. My? My feelings on that. He's got so far. All right. What's gone on? Thanks for tuning you're listening to fatherhood Friday season or with the holes with the most talking to you coast to coast, and now today we have stopped by in. Texas. to talk to a good friend of mine that I've met when I relocated down here by the name of Marcus breeds, and so we'll. We'll meet talkative bouncing day. In, the wake of everything that's been going on twenty twenty is the state of fathers who would look what are some of. The concerns what are some of the challenges and issues that are facing now in this twenty twenty scenes in it might be the same might be different but who better to talk about it then? Marcus, Drake's how are you doing today Sir. H doing well, man doing pretty good. How about yourself? Good Man just enjoying this weekend here and You know to. Honey to do list and just trying to build this podcast one brick and then right right. So, tell tell us you know if somebody was listen to this podcast with the very first time. and. For those of you that don't know who you are you WANNA share of. Okay. Well, my name is Marcus Creagh I am the host of a podcast called bother heard which folks aims. The focuses on family and wellness, and though I started a few years ago and so just trying to raise the consciousness of bothers in. In my community, as well as across the across the globe in in order for them to create legacies that are going to be built on a foundation of love. Not only for Selva love brothers and. Do a few things in the community that I live in. Fatherhood specialists and work with bothers for local proxy. Also do some some fatherhood work in men's work with another of another nonprofit call, the man in me and so this year. To support men fathers in in hopes that. They strengthen their families as they are strengthening themselves in and learning who they are. Earth Formosa's individuals so that they can be the best for the PAM. S Great Man. So I have Fatherhood Fridays you have a father her you also mentioned the man in me organization, which is highly you know empowering the fathers as well as your father specialists for follow now. I do that for an agency called the safe for lions, and so it's a local nonprofit year and in the city that we live in. So we we focus on. Supporting families that are dealing with all forms of. Whether that's balance at home sexual abuse. Human Trafficking. Any sort of violence where we are trying to find ways to prevent. Know Educate, as well as. Support families who are in those situations currently. So we just we just surname a few resources and organizations dad bothers. Can either be a part of or connect to as a way of getting help. Is there any other Or resources that fathers can join in this time in any scraping times we live in in twenty twenty. I think if you look into your local areas and just kind see was what's going on. But one of the things that comes to mind in terms of if you are no online and November people have to be online nowadays because of the pandemic you know and so. Now, they have the Black Fathers Group on facebook that you can connect to. If you here in Austin Texas, you can teach joined the Lone Star Dad's, which is another facebook group which has grown very quickly, and they're doing some pretty interesting things to to just help bothers connect with self and connect with others, and he literally just took a guy skydiving the other day. And the tape for you know in and trauman we went his things with our boys where we Took into Austin engine just Dawson. Exciting things connecting. No connecting kids and fathers and families what. Masa definitely had a blast when he attended American Ninja of kids place. I had I had flashes seeing. Energy out and you know was able to do a couple of things that he was doing. You know. So I mean. Just in hearing you. in hearing talk abou cold in nineteen, and you know some other things that I mentioned will what are some of the challenges you're facing as a dad in in his time twenty twenty might be different the same. I think for me I'm probably facing. The same things that a lot of people might be basing unfortunate to to still be working you know because. All that's been going on folks have been laid off or individuals are dealing with racism or they lost their jobs or You know have a hard time this being locked inside him unsure of who they are and. Trying to. Create like how long this thing's going to last but now so I mean. I think in a sense. I've been blessed because I'm still working like I said, the things that I deal I feel like is. Just managing some of my feelings in terms of how I interact with my kids know and so making sure that I'm I'm a one. With my family and not allowing. perspiration. Of Not being able to do certain things that I would like to do. You know even an introvert I love being at home, but also like getting out and? So I think just letting the stress of. Having, to work. while. Of Raising my kids some because I'm working at home like a lot of people are. So like not letting that good too much where. You know I'm just not treating my family family you. Now my kids my wife will trying to manage like making sure that I'm being productive with work and then. Thank God that it's summertime right now and kids aren't in school but. Pretty soon, they're gonNA. Be Going back to school and so having the the throw that monkey wrench back into the equation the. Now making shrimp productive at home. You know while making sure that these kids are are learning. The things that they need to learn for school I think those are some of the challenges I have particularly as with the school. And I think if you have them. And I knew, I, definitely have in other fathers and other dads are going to the same thing and I would even say that this particular year. We're kind of charting in some some unfamiliar territory because this year is not like twenty nineteen or twenty eighteen where you know it's summertime and you take vacations. Going on Audis with. The family. You know you were really in a place where this we have to be cautious of where we go we go anywhere and and really kind of gauges it worth even leaving the housing and that in itself. Not to mention, it's summertime but our kids have been home since March. Run. UC So it's almost like. They were home schooled but we all home school working from home and so that can bring Abou- like you were saying, you know some some some emotional feeling, some some mental frustrations that can your spirit you know running low from Tulsa? Why is it important to be emotionally, mentally physically and spiritually healthy in this? I mean if we're GONNA get. It's going to get the best of us and how we interact with our families known. So just thinking about my job that I do the majority of the referrals that were getting are coming from child protective services so and we're along the lines like something happened that. That is now part of or whether it was him actively you know. Producing that situation or he was connected to someone that was that brought this situation about knowing and we know that numbers are increasing in terms of violence and things like that. So I, mean if we're not doing what we can to to take care of our emotional piece in our mental and physical. In the spiritual as well as trauma said we can be. Destructive in wreak havoc on not only ourselves but on our families you know and so. I think as as much as possible. We've got to figure out what can I do to make sure that I keep myself as peaceful as possible. You know what I mean having have peace on the inside and I think that comes primarily with the spiritual verse because if you're not committed to the spiritual peace, then the rest of it really doesn't matter in my opinion. and. So it you know allow me to give you A to B to that question if you will What what are feminine things you say you work for Saint? Alliances father specialist. What are some of the destructive things that you're saying wit with bothers or your maybe here of our reading about online on the Internet that you know live man That person whatever. Mental emotional physical is running low. I think the main thing that that we see is there seems to be an increased amount of of anger that that person dealing with. No. So that comes out however, it may come out whether it's you know being abusive towards your children or being abusive towards your partner you know or. I mean, that's on the. On the. Violent individ I think it also comes comes down to where people are just. No easy drinking too much or they're they're putting their energy into work so that they don't have to deal with the family because they don't want to deal with what's going on inside of them. I think. In the work that I do what we're trying to do was really give people to connect to sell not so. Self and take care of myself and and those that are connected to me should benefit from my presence at the day but. If I'm allowing for. COVID nineteen and racism and all these other things to get the best of me. You know my family's GonNa WanNa be struggling if I don't take care of myself. And I mean I think you're absolutely right and I mean you you you do a lot in me knowing you and just you know seeing you out there. On social media and speaking different places and stuff like that. As Wad father's maximalist. Where does to specialist go when when when government, local your Jamir human just like us you know that are listening in and that is hosting the fries with what do you do to maintain Good. Mo- showing mentally physically or eat spirit I think for me. Foremost is I mean I'm surrounded with Brothers that are are moving in the same direction you know and so I mean, they say iron sharpens iron known so You know when I'm working with with fathers also like. Healing myself in. Like I'm. Those lessons with them like I'm getting the reminders of What I should be doing the definitely like in connection with my brothers. Trying to be connected stay connected to my eighth as much as possible Mellon. So. Reading my word or praying or worship or whatever it is to make sure that I'm getting that. That's. Taking care of. Really is for me. It's connection with with other people so whether Supporting someone that's helpful to me whether I'm being supported. Mentoring so to speak. You know that that's I'm getting what I need to take care myself. So what what I'm hearing is you're staying connected In community amongst other men of the fathers and you're staying connected to the VINE, which is Christ and. Holy Spirit and that is what is replenishing you in these tough times. Would you agree definitely because when we're not connected we we will. Have the propensity to. Cause chaos in havoc in harm you know so. I try to stay connected as much as possible and no one one. The other things that I'm doing is like I know that. Okay is if I might be struggling and those that are living in my house might be struggling as well and so I'm making sure I'm connected inside of my family's well, and so we've started doing this a monthly family power hour that we learned. From a friend of ours a few weeks ago you know until we've incorporated. Once once a week, we're going to sit down as a family for an hour and we're going to give each other compliments and talk about the problems and solutions that we can come up with for those problems have an activity, and so I'm I'm also paying attention to the temperature inside of my home 'cause I know if I'm impacted as an adult. And my wife is being impacted. I. Know My kids are being you. Know and so. I think that's one way that I also keep myself start because I'm. Working with my family. It's funny. You mentioned that because what came to mind is that a lot of times as men we hear. The women are the ones that set the atmosphere in the home but what you just said is. You as a bother, you also sit the tall the temperature of the atmosphere in the home to to speak more on that. I think you cut out that last part for me. I, say you mentioned that? father also set the atmosphere the temperature in detail would you like to expound on that I definitely think that the fathers? said the temperature for sure I mean. And not that, I'm like a tyrant or anything like that and I I have a pretty. Calm demeanor if you know be most people who say that but I know sometimes I can be. Be. Moody, you know what I mean in them, my kids will pick up on that or my wife on that. I think. I always say that no disrespect mom I think others are the most important people on the face of the planet. And we have a role that we have to play inside of the home. So the temperature that I that I create is very different than the temperature that wife and raise put together. We are providing something for for this known so. I. GotTa make sure that I stay a one. So the. Amaral. Thrive in these times. Yeah man I mean, it's it's important to stay a one man because like you said, we have the pandemic. We also added racism we also have. Police brutality unemployment. Elections, coming. Canceled drinks. I mean people came into twenty twenty visions of all these things that were going to happen like, nope that's not happening. and. So. I think in that goes back to your your original question of. Second question about why do we need to stay emotionally mentally physically spiritually strong because we have to learn to adapt and overcome with when things happen and so if I'M All in my all in my flesh are spirits in death down to my spirit because. You know I had this dream of doing something not can't do it like how am I going to be able to respond if I'm caught up in feeling and so it's important to. To make sure that we. Realize that sometimes things happen that are outside of our control and we have to be okay with that and then get our mind moving back and get our mind together and then begin to figure out what is that I do have control over in this time you know, and so then you you operate with the that you do have control over if I'm focused on this little area over here where I can't now handled that because it's been taken away then. I mean. It impacts everything you know and so we've got to figure out how to watch. It yeah. I would agree in and I would even actions that that. Just because. Things are not how you imagined him. In doesn't mean you still don't have to write. A lot of times when we have a digit and we have four side in a goals. We look at it like okay. Everything is go how I see it in my mind. So, now nothing has out Saudi your mind, but that doesn't mean you should forsake division forcing. Go I. Think a lot of times in and maybe you drink with this. People are saying in these times isn't the best time to? Start something. Then she believe in or create something that you believe that despite everything Donald for real out here of so many different people that are like what I'm GonNa go ahead and. Now that I'm not working. I'm going to pursue this business that I'm interested in or how can I connect to what people are doing over there? How can I bring new things to my family? How can I reconnect itself? You know we have this blessing. Now around our family all the time you know stove. Out I. TAP, into that and make sure that it is beneficial and I think it's all based on where. OCCAS. At can either choose to stay down in the dumps in and woe is me or I can choose to. Have Control over in in compare what what are the things that I'm passionate about and how can I get that thing moving in the right direction you know who can who can I support? You know ads, they're moving towards your goal and come alongside them and they come alongside me and we move in the same direction together. It's all important. I would absolutely agree with that because. You, know what I meant. You you you and another friend of my anti Wilson that Thank you met over the phone or text message. You were the main ones that inspired me to do my podcast and so because of that, we've just been feed off each other. You know I've been on your podcast. Of His podcast and you know that's how we're keeping going staying as far as staying motives and riot, and it's and it's all about relationship and connection known so. I think that's where we that's how we have to. Two draw in energy from were not feeling at our best known meaning that will pick us up. They always say stay close to fire. The, Magin like. If you're you're from Colorado. And I lived in Colorado semaj invading out. In Colorado the in this starts to get a little code in. We don't want like. Lizard Ho but just think like it starts to cool off a little bit. You're out camping or what have you and you've got a fire going and you're sitting like twenty feet away from the fire hoses someone that's sitting right on one bar like you're not gonNa feel that war and so that's what community provides provides the walk that we need to be able to get through. The next moment. Man. That store, you just gain you you. Can mean so many different things to so many different people a question I have for you to tell some of the people out there about safe alliance in the or the man at me and how it's impacted fathers in this time. I would say in this time we're providing in both both of these organizations. Providing a space permits would come and talk about what's going on in their lives so Yes it had. A negative experience with. CPS or with my wife or maybe I'm just a new father or I've been bothering pro and I'm struggling emotionally I now have a place where I can come to. Connect with other people. Who might be in the same boat? Maybe they're further along on their journey at maintenance, and so we're all learning from up. So if we if we don't as men, they often say that. We don't talk about things but if you've ever. Sat in one of our groups or you participated anything that the man has provider what have you? Minister and all the time because we we desire to share, we just have to have a safe environment do so and so I think that's what we provide is a safe environment word for individuals to be able to come. And let their hair down. So to speak. Lao them to be themselves be vulnerable. And get. The support that they they need. Sometimes they're away from it and they haven't. Note in deep down inside they know they need for whatever reason they've been pushing it up that think we provide a space where they are now like you know what? It's okay for me to to really begin to address this and that's what we do. And and I'm part of it and you know just such an honor to be around other men. Other fathers from all different races are different walks of life. To connect to talk. About things that were all on your fatherhood isn't easy. especially in this. Time we're living in and so like you said the story. You gotta stay connected to the fire. That's the only way you're gonna stay warm the Birdseye getaway to further you're not gonNA deal involve the further. You'RE NOT GONNA. Feel like anybody cares or is just meow here is so you have to stay connected and so you know as we're wrapping up you know and you listed so many different things that then sure on that you can connect through whether you're in. Texas or whether you're in another state or maybe even another country if somebody's listening to you right now. How could they fall? And you're interested in following me can always. Get Online. Whether, it's instagram or. On facebook and just look for a father heard. It's just like if you're hearing aid bother her. Inside chance host from there, you can also check me out on. Most of the high casting platform shave with a fine fine. The podcast. So I I would enjoy I would appreciate it were able to. Like share subscribe and do all those things and be blessed by what you know I have to offer. And that just I, just want to be able to be a vessel that supports others. So as you're bless you can you can bless others. Absolutely and in the same goes for me I know I didn't prepare for this but as closer. Do you mind saying maybe ten twenty second pray for those Lavas that might be listening listened or even women that might be listening and they and they have. Husbands or you know they have kids by this man and like Madam really tried to get him out in Gideon connected to some causative. That are doing things. Do you mind cranes that? No, not at all? Right I'll let you lead it This has been another episode of Fatherhood Friday season fool which host charmer as always in mobile and Marcus rigs from father earn and he's GonNa close us out. So rather than heaven this WanNa come before you this give you honor glory and praised at his your name WanNa. Thank you for the opportunity to be able to connect. With Trauma Williams and his podcast and just being able to. Say a word that's going to be able to connect with those that are listening, be able to touch those fathers or mothers of families those individuals that are listening right now. Might be struggling during this pandemic. Feel like. Like the loss or they feel like. They don't know who they are in terms of their identity. So I just wondered Atchoo you just helped him to. Find themselves. By finding you other in that, you'd be able to. Help them to be rooted. Helped him to to come close to the fire the walk that you provide. We know that it is a tie right now. Were there. So many distractions that are happening whether it's racism or or Kobe nineteen December, the other foot. With if we allow those distractions to pull us away from you are. From relationship with you. We lose sight of it all so just help us to. Replace those distractions with joy. To be able to rejoice. Would appraise with it to ask for your guidance and just knowing that you. I will fight all we need. In this time. Frame for those that are. That are struggling because they've they've lost the finances that they need to provide for their Amazon we pray that they connector resources that will. Help them to. Get back on their feet can pray that you will give people. A fresh vision, give them new ideas helping the tap into the passions that that you place inside of them. So they can do the thing that you call them to walk into the purpose ditching. We know as as we are if if and when we are moving in our purpose. In those that are connected to us will benefit move pray too often you'll be glorified. and Use may not up. A man, a man will marcus. It has been a pleasure. Apologize has taken me so long to get you on by podcast but we're GONNA have to do this again would definitely have to do it again in in everything is happens right on time as it needs to happen and I'm. Grateful for. Your friendship and and this getting to know you over the last year or so and just looking forward to. Where it goes. Absolutely I couldn't agree more. So like I said again, this has been another episode of Fatherhood Fridays with charmer marcus stay tuned and we will talk to you next Friday. I'll take. Hey, you out there voting isn't just going to the OH. On Election Day, any more options like early voting Mellon Voting Ambala drop boxes are available to more voters in a growing in popularity. How A tool created by democracy works breaks down to options. 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